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james777
29-04-2007, 07:45 PM
Job 1:6-7_Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. [7] And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. __Job 2:1-2_Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD. [2] And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Job 38:1-7_Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, [2] Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? [3] Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. [4] Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? [6] Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; [7] When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

And so it is that the SONS OF GOD are in fact ANGELS, and NOT EXTRATERRESTRIAL as we normally think of them. And notice that SATAN presented Himself along with these so called SONS OF GOD. Now the question is, WHAT TYPE OF ANGELS WHERE THEY? CREATED OR EVOLVED? FALLEN OR UNFALLEN? The Bible tells us that as well:
Ezekiel 28:12-18_Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus,_and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
[13] Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God;_(Satan was in the Garden of Eden)
every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared
in thee in the day that thou wast created. _(Satan was CREATED, he did not EVOLVE)
[14] Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; _(Satan was the chief of all Angels)
and I have set thee so:
thou wast upon the holy mountain of God;
thou hast walked
up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. _(Stars and planets)
[15] Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day _that thou wast created,
till iniquity was found in thee.
[16] By the multitude of thy merchandise
they have filled the midst of thee with violence, _and thou hast sinned:
therefore I will cast thee_as profane out of the mountain of God:
and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub,
from the midst of the stones of fire.
[17] Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty,
thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness:
I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
[18] Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries
by the multitude of thine iniquities,
by the iniquity of thy traffick;
therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, i
t shall devour thee,
and I will bring thee to ashes
upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. ___
This Scripture is speaking to the SPIRIT ENTITY BEHIND THE KING OF TYRUS. IT IS A VERSE THAT TELLS US OF THE ORIGINATION OF THE ANGELS. The angels were CREATED BY GOD, they did not evolve. They were created FULLY MATURE, WITH WISDOM, WITH VOCABULARY, WITH GREAT INTELLIGENCE.
Now then, the Bible claims thay Satan (Lucifer before his fall) had a gigantic intergalactic kingdom, and walked up and down in the STONES OF FIRE (PLANETS). His Kingdom was immense, full of traffic and full of angelic beings that had materilized in TIME-SPACE. obviously through portals of some type, for they could go from the second heaven to the third heaven at will. Most people think of angels as simply spiritual entities, that cannot and do not materialize into time and space, and therefore do not build structures in time and space. But the Bible claim is different indeed.
Also please notice that SATAN FELL, FOR HE SINNED, AND INQUITY WAS FOUND IN HIM. Jesus Christ also claimed that SATAN FELL IN THE LONG DISTANT PAST:
Luke 10:18_And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. _
The FALL OF SATAN and HIS ANGELS IS REAL. IT IS LITERAL, it means what it says. You will notice that when the so called SONS OF GOD SHOW UP ON PLANET EARTH that EVIL FOLLOWS WITH THEM. They are not, as Sitchin and others maintain, THOSE THAT FROM HEAVEN CAME, but rather FALLEN ANGELS, REBELS, WHO WERE CAST DOWN FROM THE HIGH HEAVENS OF THE LORD, that is to say the THIRD HEAVEN, THE SPIRITUAL REALM.
Their kingdom was in TIME-SPACE, evidently created for them, as it says in Job they all JUMPRED FOR JOY at the creation of Earth and the Universe. However, they were cast down as PROFANE, EVIL, WICKED SPIRITS. It is quite a twist of Scriptural fact to turn that around and make them into ALIEN SPACE GODS who simply came from the HEAVENS and who DESCENDED TO EARTH. To do that, you have to REJECT THE CONCEPT OF FALLEN CREATURES, OF EVIL, OF WICKEDNESS IN HIGH PLACES. Mankind, however, does not like the God of the Bible, and so it is easy for him to reinterpret the Bible to make it more comfortable with his rebellious mind.
Ephes. 6:12_For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
__What is this spiritual wickedness in HIGH PLACES? What HIGH PLACES? Well, the Bible tells us - THE HIGH PLACES ARE THE HEAVENS. Satan still has access to God's throne, where He rails against the Christians day and night. And notice it is called SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS - that of the SPIRIT - not wickedness of ALIENS FROM OTHER PLANETS.
The Book of Enoch has much to say about these fallen angels. Here are some key verses within that book for you to digest and chew on, if you think the visitors FROM THE HEAVENS were just ALIEN SPACE GODS.

CHAPTER 7
(1)"It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful. (2) And when the ANGELS, THE SONS OF HEAVEN, beheld them, they became enamored of them, saying to each other: Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children..."

There is little question here that ENOCH thought the so called ALIENS were in fact ANGELS, SPIRITUAL BEINGS THAT COULD MATERIALIZE INTO OUR TIME-SPACE.

CHAPTER 15
(1)"..Go, say to the Watchers of heaven, who have sent thee to pray for them; you ought to pray for men, and not men for you. (2) Wherefore HAVE YOU FORSAKEN THE LOFTY AND HOLY HEAVEN, which ENDURES FOR EVER, and have lain with women; have defiled yourselves with the daughters of men; have taken to yourselves wives; have acted like the sons of the earth, and have begotten giants? (3) YOU BEING SPIRITUAL, HOLY, AND LIVING A LIFE THAT IS ETERNAL, have polluted yourselves with women; have begotten in carnal blood; have lusted after the blood of men; and have done as those who are flesh and blood do..."

"(6) But you from THE BEGINNING WERE MADE SPIRITUAL, LIVING A LIFE WHICH IS ETERNAL, AND NOT SUBJECT TO DEATH IN ALL THE GENERATIONS OF THE WORLD. Therefore I made not wives for you, BECAUSE BEING SPIRITUAL, YOUR DWELLING IS IN HEAVEN."

The FALLEN ANGELS HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, AND THEIR ABODE WAS HEAVEN. Enoch is very specific - THEY ARE SPIRITUAL BEINGS, not EXTRATERRESTRIALS from another planet - they come from the THIRD HEAVEN, not the SECOND HEAVEN, which is the UNIVERSE WE SEE IN THE NIGHT SKY. These SPIRITUAL BEINGS have the power to enter into our TIME-SPACE UNIVERSE at will, and can also de-materialize, which is why UFO's many times APPEAR AND THEN VANISH INTO THIN AIR.

Jude and Peter mention these fallen ones:
Jude 1:6-7_And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. [7] Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. __2 Peter 2:4_For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
__It does indeed seem that the FALLEN ANGELS WERE A BAD LOT, FULL OF EVIL AND MALICE TOWARDS MEN. This is pretty plain language, and it verifies exactly what the Bible says about it - the SONS OF GOD WERE FALLEN ANGELS, CALLED THE "WATCHERS" and some of them FELL and came DOWN TO EARTH and did evil, and all but destroyed the human race. There was a METHOD TO THE MADNESS, because the goal of Satan was to corrupt all human flesh - that is, to DESTROY THE HUMAN RACE FROM ADAM AND EVE - THE CREATION OF GOD. If he could INTERMINGLE ANGELS with the human race, THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE HUMAN, BUT RATHER HYBRIDS, no longer fully man - no longer Homo-Sapiens, but rather a mixture - and thus, by this method, SATAN COULD PREVENT REDEMPTION - for there would be no HOMO-SAPIENS TO REDEEM. It was HOMO-SAPIENS that were CREATED PERFECT AND WHO FELL. Under KINSMAN-REDEEMER LAW only a NEAR KINSMAN CAN REDEEM - and if the race of HOMO-SAPIENS had been totally corrupted by interbreeding with the fallen angels, JESUS CHRIST COULD NOT REDEEM THE HUMAN RACE. Hence, because MOST OF MANKIND WAS CORRUPTED BY INTERBREEDING, God had to find a family that WAS NOT. He did - his name was NOAH:
Genesis 6:9-11_These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. [10] And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. [11] The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. _
The word PERFECT is most interesting here:
tamiym, taw-meem', Hebrew 8549; from Hebrew 8552 (tamam); entire (literal, figurative or moral); also (as noun) integrity, truth :- without blemish, complete, full, perfect, sincerely (-ity), sound, without spot, undefiled, upright (-ly), whole.
So NOAH was fully and perfectly HOMO-SAPIENS - no corruption. On top of that HE WAS RIGHTEOUS, AND A JUST MAN. Noah was selected out of the mess the SONS OF GOD HAD CREATED to bring HOMO-SAPIENS THROUGH THE FLOOD for REDEMPTION by Jesus Christ!
Enoch gives us more insight into what happened and HOW THE FALLEN ANGELS POSED AS EXTRATERRESTRIAL FROM OTHER PLANETS TO SET UP THE FOUNDATIONS FOR THE END-TIME DELUSION. TO SET UP THE FOUNDATION FOR "EVOLUTION" instead of CREATION. They knew that mankind would leave records of their visit, and they knew that man would go back and re-examine those records and accept them all as truthful - except for the record of the Bible - which cannot be trusted as being accurate at all.



PICK YOUR ALIEN - WHICH DO YOU WANT TO TAKE HOME WITH YOU?


WHY OF COURSE EVOLUTION IS TRUE - JUST LOOK AT THESE MANY RACES FROM OTHER PLANETS - ANYONE WOULD BE AN IDIOT NOT TO KNOW THAT EVOLUTION IS NOW AN ESTABLISHED FACT.
Notice the little phrase that Enoch uses: "BEING NUMEROUS IN APPEARANCE". A word study proves out that the phrase means SHOWING THEMSELVES IN MANY DIFFERENT FORMS, that is, THEY CAME TO EARTH IN DIFFERENT SIZES, SHAPES AND APPEARANCES - to pose as ALIEN STAR GODS FROM OTHER PLANETS, WHO ALL EVOLVED DIFFERENTLY AND THUS LOOK DIFFERENT DEPENDING UPON WHICH GALAXY AND PLANETARY SYSTEM THEY CAME FROM. And then Enoch says that THIS CHARADE MADE MEN PROFANE, and caused MANKIND TO ERR, and they SACRIFICED TO THESE "DEVILS" AND THOUGHT THEM AS REAL GODS, AS REAL CREATOR GODS. Such is the power of the fallen angels.
The fact that Enoch is 100% correct in his statement is proven by the hundreds of accounts of ALIENS GODS WHO FROM "HEAVEN TO EARTH CAME" as is maintained by Sitchin and others. These ancient accounts all claim that STAR GODS CAME DOWN TO EARTH, and mated with human females, producing GIANTS. Sitchin claims that the Sumerian records PROVE that mankind is a product of ALIEN INTERVENTION. Actually the other records of the ancients would say almost the same thing - THAT WAS THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE EVENTS THEY LIVED THROUGH. That was what THE FALLEN ANGELS TOLD THEM. They believed what they were told. There is no record in the ancient accounts of most countries that these were in fact FALLEN ANGELS. Enoch and other extra-Biblical text from the ancient world speak of it - but the primary records of mankind do not. Why? Because mankind did not perceive them as FALLEN ANGELS at all - they saw them as ALIEN SPACE GODS, who came from various star systems, such as ORION. Enoch claims that theses so called STAR GODS taught mankind many things. Their ultimate leader was SATAN.
The historian Josephus had this to say about earth's encounter with beings from another world:



Satan, according to Christ, is the FATHER OF LIES AND A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING.
John 8:44_Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. _
It was an alien intervention all right, but not the kind that Sitchin and others think it was - it was the intervention of Satan of his fallen angels - that had a plan - that only partially worked. The part that worked, and worked very well, was the laying the foundation for SPACE ALIENS AND EVOLUTION to be picked up by LATTER DAY MAN. The part that failed was to corrupt the entire human race to prevent REDEMPTION. Yea, HATH GOD SAID?
As man approaches OMEGA POINT he would REDISCOVER "ANCIENT TRUTHS" and would learn about his TRUE ORIGINS, which of course, would totally DENY CREATION, A FALL, A REDEMPTION and the necessity of a REDEEMER, JESUS CHRIST. That this concept would be utterly rejected at the end is a matter of BIBLE PROPHECY, which is filled with warnings about APOSTASY, of TURNING UNTO FABLES, of CHRIST REJECTION!
Matthew 24:9-11_Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. [10] And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. [11] And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Now how it that possible unless the world has rejected JESUS CHRIST and his REDEMPTION? The only way that can happen is to have an OUTRIGHT WORLD WIDE REJECTION OF THE REAL TRUTH AND THE SUBSTITUTION OF THE LIE. So then we have CREATION vs. EVOLUTION:

CREATION EVOLUTION
PERFECT MAN & WOMAN PRIMORDIAL SWAMPS & CHANCE
FALL OF MANKIND HOMINOIDS - NO FALL ONLY ASCENT TO MAN VIA EVOLUTIONARY PROCESSES
PERFECTION TO CHAOS CHAOS TO PERFECTION INTERVENTION BY STAR GODS DNA/GENETIC MANIPULATION
PLAN OF REDEMPTION GOES INTO AFFECT - ISRAEL IS BORN NO REDEMPTION - ASCENT UP LADDER OF EVOLUTION TO GODHOOD STATUS
REDEEMER APPEARS
JESUS CHRIST COMES TO REDEEM HUMAN RACE UNDER KINSMAN-REDEEMER LAW NO REDEEMER - AN AVATAR, AN ASCENDED MASTER, A BRINGER OF LIGHT AND WISDOM.
REDEEMER RETURNS TO COLLECT THE FEW THAT KNEW THE TRUTH - THE REST OF THE HUMAN RACE IS DESTROYED NO REDEEMER - THE GODS RETURN AND MANKIND ENTERS A NEW GOLDEN AGE AND THOSE THAT REFUSE IT ARE LIQUIDATED.
_The issue here is clear cut, and the world is opting for EVOLUTIONARY PRINCIPLES AND INTERVENTION BY SPACE ALIENS - the proof is everywhere. Now these so called SONS OF GOD, the FALLEN ANGELS, who posed as extraterrestrials from other planets said they would return! That this is true and they would return was verified by Jesus Christ Himself:
Matthew 24:37-39_But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [38] For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, [39] And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. _
The days of NOAH were 950 years and he saw the SONS OF GOD ARRIVE THE FIRST TIME. As it was, so shall it be, so then the Bible is warning us that THE SONS OF GOD WILL RETURN, and they will do EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID BACK THEN: POSE AS ALIEN STAR GODS, and they will TOTALLY DECEIVE THE HUMAN RACE, AND CAUSE THEM TO ERR, AND TO WORSHIP THE DEVIL AS THOUGH HE WERE GOD:
Rev. 13:4-6_And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? [5] And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. [6] And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. _
Now who is this DRAGON that the world WORSHIPS AT THE TIME OF THE END? And do you know what the word WORSHIPPED MEANS?
proskuneo, pros-koo-neh'-o, Greek 4352; from Greek 4314 (pros) and a probably derivative of Greek 2965 (kuon) (meaning to kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand); to fawn or crouch to, i.e. (literal or figurative) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to, adore) :- worship.

Now how is that for a MASTER DECEPTION? SATAN AND HIS FALLEN ANGELS MATERIALIZE IN OUR ATMOSPHERE IN UFOs, DESCEND AND GET OUT IN MANY DIFFERENT SIZES AND SHAPES AND CLAIM THEY ARE ALIENS FROM SERIOUS - PART OF ORION OR SOME OTHER STAR SYSTEM. And mankind, just as he did in ANCIENT TIMES, bows down and worships SATAN HIMSELF, thinking it IS GOD. These fallen angels caused men to err in the beginning, by a great deception, being IMPOSTORS, posing as EXTRATERRESTRIAL, and they are doing the same thing again. It is said that man does not learn anything from HISTORY AT ALL - he must REPEAT THE SAME ERRORS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. He never learns. The truth is right in front of his face, but because of REBELLION IN HIS HEART he cannot, and he will not listen to any warnings. The true believer can only watch and pray that some of their family and friends will SEE THE LIGHT, SEE THE TRUTH and be delivered from the KINGDOM OF DARKNESS over to the KINGDOM OF LIGHT.
Does Satan actually arrive in UFO's and return to planet earth? The Bible claims he does, and that it occurs right at the end, right at OMEGA POINT, and it is the APEX OF THE STRONG DELUSION:

Rev. 12:7-9_And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, [8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. [9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. _
Now how would that look to us standing upon the earth and looking into the heavens? Would it not appear like all the world as SPACE ALIENS COMING DOWN TO VISIT? Would it not be one of the most MOMENTOUS MOMENTS IN HUMAN HISTORY? Would it not be easy for them to POSE AS EXTERRESTRIALS FROM THE HEAVENS that have come to AID MANKIND? TO CLEANSE THE WORLD? TO PURIFY THE GLOBE? To remove all of those who cannot accept MAN'S TRUE ORIGINS and who insist that the "beings" are in reality SATAN AND HIS FALLEN ANGELS, evil spirits who have come to deceive the human race? We all know the answer to that one don't we? Is this not what Paul said would come?
2 Thes. 2:9-10
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, [10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. _
The word coming means ARRIVAL, but this is an arrival that is not God coming to aid the human race, but rather FALLEN ANGELS, IMPOSTORS, bent upon the destruction of mankind.

THE GREAT REVERSAL

Isaiah 5:20_Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; _that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; _that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
_Calling Satan God and God Satan has ramifications that everyone ought to consider. For the human race to bow down and lick the hand of Satan has to be a COMPLETE REVERSAL OF THE REAL TRUTH, and that can only take place over many years - by CONSPIRACY to destroy God and Christ. The Bible tells us there is just such a conspiracy:
Psalm 2:1-4_Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? [2] The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, [3] Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. [4] He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. _
Now who are these KINGS AND RULERS of the world that decide to take issue with the Word of God and HIS CHRIST? Who decide to get together to RID THE WORLD OF THE VERY THOUGHT OF GOD THE FATHER AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST? Who decide to rid the world of any concepts of A FALL AND A REDEMPTION? And how did mankind actually REVERSE THE TRUTH and then embrace the lie? It took place step by step, over many years. As we approach OMEGA POINT, more and more books, movies, videos, and television documentaries are going to appear that will PROVE BEYOND ALL QUESTION that EVOLUTIONARY CONCEPTS AND SPACE ALIENS ARE REAL, and that WE HAVE BEEN VISITED IN THE ANCIENT PAST, and contact is to be made again. There will be a REVELATION of many ARTIFACTS here on Earth, Mars and the Moon to prove the existence of alien life forms, and hence, the fact of EVOLUTION. There will be STUNNING ANNOUNCEMENTS of ARTIFACTS FOUND that will totally REWRITE MANKIND'S HISTORY - all of which will prove that CREATION WAS A MYTH, at least as presented by the Bible. These annoucement will stun the world. They will be FRAUDULENT, PART OF PROJECT BLUEBEAM to usher in the New Age Messiah.
And the Masons, those of HIGH DEGREE along with the other SECRET SOCIETIES, are behind the whole scheme. They are DUPES OF SATAN, and they have bought the LIE hook line and sinker. Because they CONTROL the mass media, it is simple for them to DIRECT A FULL SCALE PSYOPS WAR against the human race to get them to embrace their FALSE MESSIAH. Ever wonder why in the UFO field, that the ALIENS are always calling for a NEW WORLD ORDER, a NEW WORLD RELIGION, and a NEW WORLD ECONOMY? Ever wonder why these so called "aliens" who channel through their human dupes DENY CREATION and DENY JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH TO REDEEM THE HUMAN RACE? Ever wonder why Jesus Christ, among all of the individuals in human history is ATTACKED with such HATRED? Ever wonder why the UFO BLACK TRIANGLES HAVE LIGHTS ON EACH CORNER AND A BIG ONE IN THE MIDDLE? It is of course the Illuminati SYMBOLOGY of the all seeing eye in the triangle as taught to us by DANIEL, and the Book of Revelation.


But no one seems to be reading those Books, no one seem interested enough to SAVE THEIR OWN SOULS! The reason for the masses accepting the lies is because the MASONS reject the TRUTH OF SCRIPTURE, and the EXCLUSIVE CLAIMS OF JESUS CHRIST. They feed their beliefs to the public via the media. The Masonic handbook A BRIDGE TO LIGHT TELLS IT LIKE IT REALLY IS:



"No human being can with CERTAINTY SAY....WHAT IS TRUTH or that HE IS IN POSSESSION OF IT.."
John 14:6_Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

So therefore Jesus Christ must be a LIAR, for he was a human being, born from a woman, to fulfill the requirement of KINSMAN-REDEEMER LAW. He was also fully God, the enigma of the GODMAN. Yet here the Masons claim that there is NO KNOWABLE TRUTH, and that no one can, or even has the right to claim, THAT THEY ARE IN POSSESION OF IT. That is a total and a complete REJECTION OF JESUS CHRIST AND ALL CHRISTIANS. It sets the stage for a massive WORLDWIDE REJECTION OF THE BIBLE, and the embracement of the LIE OF EVOLUTION AND ALIEN SPACE GODS.
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These statements, right out of their own handbook, prove the real beliefs of MASONRY EVERYWHERE. This is the reason for the advancement of TOLERANCE, OF UNDERSTANDING ALL RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD ARE RIGHT, AND THAT THEY ALL ARE WORSHIPPING THE SAME GOD. Because they are all coming to God, only in different ways, we should not EXCLUDE THEM, they are ALL THE SAME, AND OF EQUAL VALUE. Hence, we destroy the Bible and Christ because IT CLAIMS IT IS THE ONLY EXCLUSIVE WAY TO HEAVEN, and further, that all other religions and beliefs of WHATEVER KIND are LIES:
John 10:25-30_Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. [26] But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: [28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. [29] My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. [30] I and my Father are one.
_John 10:1-15_Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. [2] But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. [3] To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. [4] And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. [5] And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. [6] This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them. [7] Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. [8] All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. [9] I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. [10] The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. [11] I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. [12] But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. [13] The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. [14] I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. [15] As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. _
Now Masonry cannot stand this exclusive concept that we need only ONE REDEEMER. They cannot even stand the concept of REDEMPTION at all. Thus they form the CONSPIRACY OF PSALM TWO in order to RID THE WORLD OF THE CONCEPT OF EXCLUSIVE TRUTH, and bring in the LIE OF MANY TRUTHS. Masonry poses as an ANGEL OF LIGHT, but in reality is a TOOL OF THE FORCES OF DARKNESS. It totally denies the exclusive claims of Christ and instead is an ardent supporter of the NEW AGE MOVEMENT and is directly behind the ALIEN CONTACT SCENARIO.
The fall of mankind is real - it is literal, and it happened just like Genesis said it did. If the truth of CREATION is cast aside, then so also is REDEMPTION and the WORK OF CHRIST ON THE CROSS ON BEHALF OF MANKIND. Now suppose you were God and you actually did send your ONLY BEGOTTEN CHILD, and you watch the human race utterly reject not only the WORK OF CHRIST, but his entire MISSION. What would your reaction be?
The SECRET SOCIETIES have of course invaded the Church and all but destroyed it, including the way of salvation, and they have now convinced the elders of the faith that EXTRATERRESTRIALS are REAL, A FACT. The Catholic Church and many in the Protestant Churches have embraced this concept as well. THEY HAVE OPENED THEMSELVES UP TO THE FINAL DECEPTION, TO THE STRONG DELUSION. CONTACT IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER.
When that CONTACT OCCURS, what will happen to the people of the world and the believers within the Church? We have the Scripture that tells us of a GREAT FALLING AWAY, of a GREAT APOSTASY AWAY FROM THE TRUTH:
Matthew 24:10_And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. __2 Tim. 4:3-4_For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; [4] And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. __2 Thes. 2:3-4_Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; [4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. _
We are now in the middle of the great falling away, but we have seen nothing yet. The conditioning has worked, and worked well - first science fiction, then movies, documentaries and then science gets into the act - this is all part of PRE-CONDITIONING. Then comes DISCLOSURE, and then comes OPEN CONTACT. Here is what "NO-EYES" HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT. READ IT CAREFULLY, AND REMEMBER SHE IS NEW AGE, NOT CHRISTIAN:


Isn't that most interesting? "Peoples gonna see NEW BEINGS... BEINGS GONNA SHOW MORE AND MORE. THEY NO GONNA HIDE, PLAY GAMES. IT BE TIME THEY SHOW THEY REALLY BE HERE ALL 'LONG". No-Eyes has it 100% correct. The FALLEN ANGELS and their master Satan have been playing games for a long time - setting the stage for ALIEN CONTACT after they have convinced the human race that the Bible is a pack of lies and that creation is a MYTH. So they begin the process in the LAST DAYS, and it began right after WWII. They show and then they hide. But the sightings gradually increase, more and more. We could call it GAME PLAYING. Who are they? What do they want? Where are they from? Now look at what No-Eyes says: IT BE TIME THEY SHOW THEY BE REALLY HERE ALL 'LONG". In other words, they have been here, just as the MYSTERY MAN IN X-FILES SAYS TO MOULDER "THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME." It is a true statement with a hidden hook in it. Be careful you don't bite.
Satan was here LONG BEFORE MANKIND. HE HAD A KINGDOM HERE, and probably throughout the Solar System and perhaps intergalactic in nature. After all, God claims he walked among the STONES OF FIRE, which is a direct reference to the planets and stars. He was in the Garden Of Eden. He was there when THE MOST HIGH GOD FORMED ADAM AND EVE WITH HIS OWN HANDS. The Bible does not say anywhere that Satan helped God "evolve" the human race. It is adamant that ADAM AND EVE were CREATED fully grown, fully intelligent, with a language built into them.

The Church teachings WERE NOT QUITE ACCURATE. Almost, but not quite. It was NOT GOD that created us, but rather SPACE ALIENS who manipulated our genetics. Minor change. We did not fall at all, but have been advancing up the evolutionary ladder. Minor change. We do not need redemption, we need help. Another minor change. NOT QUITE ACCURATE, small mistakes! Don't worry - it will all work out. The Aliens will make you understand. They will teach us the REAL truth.
So the appearance of the FALLEN ANGELS AKA ALIENS will cause a huge amount of anger at the Federal Government because they had covered up the truth OF CONTACT, and because they HAD HAD CONTACT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. The shock waves will reverberate through the whole world, and send the religions of the world into a tail-spin. Especially CHRISTIANITY. Notice that No-Eyes singles out CHRISTIANITY, and tells us that the people of the world are going to turn to the Church and ask a lot of very serious questions. IT WILL BE THE DEATH OF CHRISTIANITY as we know it, and the beginning of WORLD WIDE PERSECUTION AND THE GREAT "OFFENSE" that Christ spoke of. MILLIONS OF PROFESSING CHRISTIANS WILL FALL AWAY. BELIEVE IT, IT WILL HAPPEN. The world will HATE THE CHURCH and the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST because they will have UTTERLY REJECTED THE SCRIPTURE AND EMBRACED THE LIES OF THE FALLEN ANGELS. They will look at the Church and claim boldly what they say in secret right now: RELIGION IS JUST A WAY TO CONTROL PEOPLE AND TAKE THEIR MONEY AND HOLD THEM IN SUBJECTION AND FEAR OF HELLFIRE. Especially the Church of Jesus Christ.



The ALIENS (not fallen angels) are "GONNA PROVE STUFF. THEY GONNA TRY TO HELP PEOPLES HERE." When God says He will send down a STRONG DELUSION, IT APPEARS HE WAS NOT FOOLING. The fallen angels will be able to PROVE TO MANKIND HIS HIDDEN ANCIENT ORIGINS, and they will NOT include creation as OUTLINED IN THE SCRIPTURES.They will either show mankind where they hid ancient text and artifacts, or they will bring them with them, to PROVE via actual HARD EVIDENCE to the world that THEIR ORIGINS AND DESTINATION LIES IN THE STARS. It will be THE GOLDEN AGE OF THE GODS COME AGAIN. It will be ATLANTIS RISING!! The world will embrace it hook, line and sinker. The human race, rather than feeding on the bottom muck of the evolution conspiracy should have been feeding on the Word of God - and then they would have KNOWN what was coming.
No-Eyes claims that people ARE GOING TO CHANGE. Sounds like the NEW AGE QUANTUM LEAP VIA "INITIATION", a polite term for DEMONIC POSSESION. "Line up right now, folks and get your favorite demon. He will guide you into the GOLDEN AGE. Sup with him, and speak with him, for he is here to help you. He will give you DIVINE GUIDENCE. Fear not BIG FLOCK, for we, the Aliens, are here to cleanse the world of the EVIL DOERS, THE WICKED ONES."
No- Eyes is not alone in her outlook OF THINGS TO COME. There are many others writing books and they will become very popular - because when DISCLOSURE COMES, there will be a STAMPEDE to the bookstores dealing in the OCCULT and ALIENS. The Bible? Well, it has been proven to be wrong - so why read it? It could very well be BANNED AND BURNED.
Now remember that the fallen angels pose as aliens, as MASTERS OF WISDOM AND LIGHT. They have come to help us, to teach us, to guide in our next quantum leap up the ladder of evolution - the leap into GODHOOD. Elizabeth Clare Prophet in her book THE GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD, has this to say about the arrival of the ALIENS:


Interesting wording, don't you think? It comes from Godfre, one of the ascended masters - which of course is a demon. Now the ALIENS of No-Eyes become the ASCENDED MASTERS, HIERARCHIES OF LIGHT. And what did No-Eyes claim? That they would come and talk and walk with us? They they would help us? Is this not a confirmation from another New Age source of material? These ascended masters would WALK AND TALK WITH MANKIND AGAIN!! The Bible makes an interesting comment along these lines, but opposes what the New Age claims:
Rev. 18:1-2_And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. [2] And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. _
It sounds to me like someone is not telling the truth here. The new Age claims these aliens are masters of wisdom, the ANCIENT ONES, who have come to aid the human race, and yet Jesus Christ, speaking through His servant John the Revelator, claims these are DEVILS, FOUL SPIRITS, UNCLEAN BIRDS. Someone has to be wrong here, don't you think? How do two opposing concepts be true at the same time? Who are you going to believe?
And what is the FIRST CONTACT TO DO? The FIRST WAVE, the ADVANCED GUARD OF SATAN'S ANGELS? To prepare the WAY for the CHRISTED ONE in the HEARTS OF MANKIND. SATAN SENDS IN HIS FALLEN ANGELS TO PREPARE FOR HIS ARRIVAL, much like the President's men preceed him on world tour - they go in advance to make the way, to be sure all goes right. CONTACT with ALIENS will be CONTACT WITH FALLEN ANGELS. The Bible makes no other statements whatsoever, other than this. And IT WARNS US OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THESE "ALIENS" WOULD COME.
If we play connect the dots, it becomes obvious what is really happening, and that this has been a gradual conditioning process by Satan and his human dupes - the Kings and Rulers of the earth, who by the way, are almost all members of the SECRET SOCIETIES. They lead the way into the acceptance of Satan as God, and into the acceptance of fallen angels are ALIENS FROM OTHER PLANETS. It is a well thought out plan, and it will do what God has sent it to do:
2 Thes. 2:12_That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. _
You have been warned. It is almost here. Do not think for even a moment you will escape. You will not.
PART TWO WILL BE COMING SHORTLY
THE END.
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foreverspirit
30-04-2007, 02:58 AM
The Church teachings WERE NOT QUITE ACCURATE. Almost, but not quite.


And we should go by this:eek:

james777
04-05-2007, 02:41 AM
again, who is, we?

umbrex
05-05-2007, 01:36 AM
Dude, seriously - i tried to read through some, but the caps are killing me.

foreverspirit
05-05-2007, 02:47 AM
Was Jesus Peaceable And Compassionate?

The birth of Jesus was heralded with "Peace on Earth," yet Jesus said, "Think not that I am come to send peace: I came not to send peace but a sword." (Matthew 10:34) "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." (Luke 22:36) "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." (Luke 19:27. In a parable, but spoken of favorably.)

The burning of unbelievers during the Inquisition was based on the words of Jesus: "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (John 15:6)

Jesus looked at his critics "with anger" (Mark 3:5), and attacked merchants with a whip (John 2:15). He showed his respect for life by drowning innocent animals (Matthew 8:32). He refused to heal a sick child until he was pressured by the mother (Matthew 15:22-28).

The most revealing aspect of his character was his promotion of eternal torment. "The Son of man [Jesus himself] shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 13:41-42) "And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched." (Mark 9:43)

Is this nice? Is it exemplary to make your point with threats of violence? Is hell a kind, peaceful idea?:eek:

foreverspirit
05-05-2007, 02:49 AM
Did Jesus Promote "Family Values"?

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26):eek:

foreverspirit
05-05-2007, 02:51 AM
What Were His Views On Equality And Social Justice?

Jesus encouraged the beating of slaves: "And that servant [slave], which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes." (Luke 12:47) He never denounced servitude, incorporating the master-slave relationship into many of his parables.:eek:

foreverspirit
05-05-2007, 02:53 AM
Was Jesus Reliable?

Jesus told his disciples that they would not die before his second coming: "There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom" (Matthew 16:28). "Behold, I come quickly." (Revelation 3:11) It's been 2,000 years, and believers are still waiting for his "quick" return.

foreverspirit
05-05-2007, 02:55 AM
Why Jesus?

Although other verses can be cited that portray Jesus in a different light, they do not erase the disturbing side of his character. The conflicting passages, however, prove that the New Testament is contradictory.

The "Golden Rule" had been said many times by earlier religious leaders. (Confucius: "Do not unto others that you would not have them do unto you.") "Turn the other cheek" encourages victims to invite further violence. "Love thy neighbor" applied only to fellow believers. (Neither the Jews nor Jesus showed much love to foreign religions).

A few of the Beatitudes ("Blessed are the peacemakers") are acceptable, but they are all conditions of future reward, not based on respect for human life or values.

On the whole, Jesus said little that was worthwhile. He introduced nothing new to ethics (except hell). He instituted no social programs.

Being "omniscient," he could have shared some useful science or medicine, but he appeared ignorant of such things (as if his character were merely the invention of writers stuck in the first century).

Time to draw a free breath.
Time to set the record straight.
Time to be free of "Blind Faith".
Free at last, free at last....:cool:

foreverspirit
05-05-2007, 06:24 AM
Yeah, Proof I Cant Deny!

i am all i am
05-05-2007, 09:20 AM
Matthew 5:42"Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away."

Would you please give me $1, 000.00 James777 ???

With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

tru3
05-05-2007, 03:47 PM
Dude, seriously - i tried to read through some, but the caps are killing me.

really. writing in all caps comes right from the u.c.c. (ever get a tax notice from the irs, or a summons from your local government? not nice! :( ), which comes right out of babylon.

you're using a tool of the beast to talk about god, and you're completely unaware of it. hence, it's very difficult for me to engage in a rational dialogue with someone who uses them extensively.

also, with a post that long, you might want to think about using subheadings. disorganized prose indicates to me disorganized thoughts and a chaotic mind.

yes, there's plenty of stuff about the elohim, we disagree on the interpretation of their true nature.

utukxul
08-05-2007, 11:22 AM
so anyone wanna share what he or she thinks about elohims true nature ???

foreverspirit
08-05-2007, 02:10 PM
so anyone wanna share what he or she thinks about elohims true nature ???

Looks like you didnt read Post #8 in Part 1. Here is some. For more, see aforementioned Post.


He creates evil (Isa. 45:7),

He deceives: (Jer. 20:7).

He tells people to lie1 Sam. 16:2).

He lies: (Gen. 2:17),

He rewards liars: Ex. (1:15-20)(Joshua 2:3-6)

He orders men to become drunken: (Jer. 25:27).

He delivers a man (Job) into Satan's hands: (Job 2:6).

He mingles a perverse spirit: (Isa. 19:14).

He is not omnipotent or all powerful: (Judges 1:19).

He causes indecency: (Isaiah 20:4).

He orders stealing: (Ex. 3:22)(Deut. 20:14).

He made false and unfulfilled prophecies: (Jonah 3:4,10) (Gen. 15:13 Says 400 Years But Ex. 12:40 says 430)

He causes adultery2 Sam. 12:11-12).

He orders the taking of a harlot: (Hosea 1:2).

He orders a man to purchase his wife: (Hosea 3:1-3).

He kills repeatedly: (Num. 16:35,21:6)(Deut. 32:39)(1 Sam. 6:19)(1 Sam. 5:6) (Psalms 135:10) (Isaiah 66:16)(Jer. 13:14)Also note: Gen. 38:7,10, Ex. 22:23-24, Num. 11:1, Deut. 32:41-42, Joshua 10:10-11, 1 Sam. 5:9, Psalms 136:17-18, Hosea 9:16, Amos 2:3, Ex. 4:24, 2 Sam. 6:6-7, and 2 Kings 5:7.

He orders killing: (Lev. 26:7-8)(Num. 25:4-5)(Num. 25:17)(Deut. 20:16-17)(Joshua 10:40)(Ezek. 9:5-6)(1 Sam. 15:3,18)Also Note: Ex. 32:27-28, Num. 21:34-35, 31:7-8, 35:19-21, and Jer. 48:10.

He loses his temper: (Deut. 13:17) (Judges 3:8)(Psalm 21:9)(2 Sam. 24:1)(1 Kings 16:26)(Nahum 1:2)(2 Kings 13:3)(Ex. 32:10)(Num. 11:1)(16:46), (32:13-14), (1 Kings 14:9 15:30, 16:2, 16:7, 16:13, (2 Chron. 34:25) (Psalm 18:7) and (Jer. 44:6).

He is often jealous: I the lord thy god am a jealous god...." (Deut. 5:9, Ex. 20:5). "For the lord thy god is a jealous god among you...." (Deut. 6:15).See also: Ex. 34:14, Deut. 4:24, 29:20, Psalms 78:58, Ezek. 16:38, 36:5-6 And Joshua 24:19.

He repents. even though 1 Sam. 15:29 ("The strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent") says that god never repents, the following verses say the opposite. “It repented the lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at this heart” (Gen. 6:6) (Ex. 32:14)(1 Sam. 15:11,35)(Jer. 26:3)(Jer. 18:8)

He practices injustice: (Ex. 4:22-23)(Num. 14:18)(Deut. 23:2)(Deut. 28:32)(Joshua 22:20)(2 Sam. 12:14 21:1).:eek: :cool:



"In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

~Richard Dawkins

utukxul
09-05-2007, 02:24 AM
Looks like you didnt read Post #8 in Part 1. Here is some. For more, see aforementioned Post.


He creates evil (Isa. 45:7),

He deceives: (Jer. 20:7).

He tells people to lie1 Sam. 16:2).

He lies: (Gen. 2:17),

He rewards liars: Ex. (1:15-20)(Joshua 2:3-6)

He orders men to become drunken: (Jer. 25:27).

He delivers a man (Job) into Satan's hands: (Job 2:6).

He mingles a perverse spirit: (Isa. 19:14).

He is not omnipotent or all powerful: (Judges 1:19).

He causes indecency: (Isaiah 20:4).

He orders stealing: (Ex. 3:22)(Deut. 20:14).

He made false and unfulfilled prophecies: (Jonah 3:4,10) (Gen. 15:13 Says 400 Years But Ex. 12:40 says 430)

He causes adultery2 Sam. 12:11-12).

He orders the taking of a harlot: (Hosea 1:2).

He orders a man to purchase his wife: (Hosea 3:1-3).

He kills repeatedly: (Num. 16:35,21:6)(Deut. 32:39)(1 Sam. 6:19)(1 Sam. 5:6) (Psalms 135:10) (Isaiah 66:16)(Jer. 13:14)Also note: Gen. 38:7,10, Ex. 22:23-24, Num. 11:1, Deut. 32:41-42, Joshua 10:10-11, 1 Sam. 5:9, Psalms 136:17-18, Hosea 9:16, Amos 2:3, Ex. 4:24, 2 Sam. 6:6-7, and 2 Kings 5:7.

He orders killing: (Lev. 26:7-8)(Num. 25:4-5)(Num. 25:17)(Deut. 20:16-17)(Joshua 10:40)(Ezek. 9:5-6)(1 Sam. 15:3,18)Also Note: Ex. 32:27-28, Num. 21:34-35, 31:7-8, 35:19-21, and Jer. 48:10.

He loses his temper: (Deut. 13:17) (Judges 3:8)(Psalm 21:9)(2 Sam. 24:1)(1 Kings 16:26)(Nahum 1:2)(2 Kings 13:3)(Ex. 32:10)(Num. 11:1)(16:46), (32:13-14), (1 Kings 14:9 15:30, 16:2, 16:7, 16:13, (2 Chron. 34:25) (Psalm 18:7) and (Jer. 44:6).

He is often jealous: I the lord thy god am a jealous god...." (Deut. 5:9, Ex. 20:5). "For the lord thy god is a jealous god among you...." (Deut. 6:15).See also: Ex. 34:14, Deut. 4:24, 29:20, Psalms 78:58, Ezek. 16:38, 36:5-6 And Joshua 24:19.

He repents. even though 1 Sam. 15:29 ("The strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent") says that god never repents, the following verses say the opposite. “It repented the lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at this heart” (Gen. 6:6) (Ex. 32:14)(1 Sam. 15:11,35)(Jer. 26:3)(Jer. 18:8)

He practices injustice: (Ex. 4:22-23)(Num. 14:18)(Deut. 23:2)(Deut. 28:32)(Joshua 22:20)(2 Sam. 12:14 21:1).:eek: :cool:



"In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

~Richard Dawkins

Thx for the post and I have read that one you posted and I was kinda of hoping other people would answer too, I am one of those who believe that bible is not a good book to be quoting, its just hiding.

no critics to you james, really like some of your points even if I disagree.

So anyone else who like to give their opinion about Elohim.

why i bother you say ...cause i like to read what others think about this matter. it really helps me to look into this problem from different angle.
hope i did`t upset people with my questions. if i did then I'm really sorry cause it wasn't meant to be in that way.