Historical King Arthur coverup!!!

[kimball13]

There is much more to my story and this story but here is a start to what i have witnessed and WHAT SOME OF THE MK-ULTRA PRAGRAMS were desinged to do, to controle me and my people and keep us from our genetic memorie's and well just read on and please help with prayer. And pleas bear with me as i was kept from recieveing any substantial kind of formal education, as well as well im sure youve heard of what happends in MK_ultra

to be breif in 1997 my life took a downward spiral as if at times someone was sabatageing me. In 2002-2004 i learned that the family folklore was not only true but there was much more to the story and the conflict with the Catholic Church and there insistince to convert and submit.
There is a hidden history that over the years i have progresivly become aware of. In 1997 there were coins and stone artifacts found showing that King Arthur realy existed and Who he was and who his desendants and ancestors were, from this sorce as well as others they found a very long line of King's

My people were sometimes called Light benders, The long haired Kings, and yes even over 1000 years ago The Rainbow Family we were known to be magical Kings, I am a dirrect desendnt of the Historical King Arthur as well as the first Pendragon Cymbeline (as in Shakespeare) and a long line up until around 1000 A.D when the church wanted complete controle of the people, I believe it was Pope Germanicus that initiated the overthrow. YEs also we are dirrectly from the line of King David. My people where also to be known as the Knights Templar protectors of the Grail that were ousted in october 13 1307, 700 year aneversery 2007 and it was on the 699 aneversery that it fell on Friday the 13th which i felt was like breaking what the church had done to my people not only from holding the roman empire at bay for 1,000 years but then to see the same thing play over and over agian that is why some of us came here to America. i also have a pinch of Apache from my dearly departed Father and Grandmother.
I became aware of being the dirrect desendnt of the true historical King Arthur around 2002-20003. In 1997 a few years after my grandfathers passing i had a fealing that the Templars, of whom my Grandfather was high level Templar (grand master of two lodges) ,,, my fealing was that of the Templars being taken over by a group of missguided people,, i did not understand my emotional attachment at the time. It was also in 1997 that archoelogical evedence of who the real King Arthur was and who his family and desendnte were and are,,, There was a complicated journey to this awareness. I found out around 2002-2003 because from clue's, observations, visions, and gut fealings that a family legend i was told at the age of 13 that we were desendnts of Scotish, English kings specificaly Cymbeline (yes the one Shakespear wrote of) is and was of great imortants.

Around 2004 there was a book writen called The Templar Papers and in it the World Leader of the Templars says that in 1997 there was a group of egotistical retired Military that took over The Templars specificaly America, he is now doing his best to correct this dillema.

There are legends of Fisher Kings, Grail Kings and the likes one common thread is there connection to the Earth in such a way that when one is wounded so is the other

My people also believe in genetic as well as cellular memorie, this may explain why i learned to read on my own at 9 from the Bible it may explain why so far what ive read in Earth Keeper Chronicles coincides with what i have learned in my life experince and the guidnce i have ben given both by People and Spiritualy,,, In many ways some of my life experinces have ben that of the Arthurian arcytype which by the way is alot more brutal/humiliateing/painfull/ than most think,,, yet the whole time fallowing the Code (Word) written on my heart yes ive bein called idealistic. I have also noticed over the last few years how connected what people do to one another is the the Earth, At times feal unfortunate that to sea this along with noticeing that when people have attacked me there has bin weather and natruly/spontaneously occuring fire,,,Most recently in my prayer i asked God to show me an unmistakble sign as well as his protection and guidence,,, as i walked out of the Emergency room what was a clear day without a cloud in site there was a large Lightining storm that suddenly appeard, it was The Mendocino Lightning Complex fires 129 in total,,, it was 8 days before my birthday (some have counted 8,000 lightning strikes) as well as the day before i was to be the Fire Keeper at an inipi (sweat lodge),,, which by the way went of without a hitch even though we could see from outside of town all of the smoke from the fires beging to enclose us in a cacoon of smoke,,, it was as if Mother Earth was smudging herself with smoke just as we do in the Native American Cerimonys,, yes there were many years i spent at the fire of the Lakota,, there is more that happend in a short time that i will touch on,,, in 1997 Richard Swallow/Sparrow Eagle Chief of the Standing Buffalo Lakota my Brother and Teacher stood me before the Lakota and Rainbow nation with such people as Wallace Black Elk, Leonard Crow Dog and many others in attendance He gave me the honor and title of Fire Chief.... It was also during this time that i moved to Saint Louse Missouri with my fiance and underwent a month phcycological and intelegence testing. They could not accuratly determine my IQ but they did say that it defenetly was in the upper range. This alone amazed them because i had less than 1/5 the edjucation of most people in america do to many visits to the hospital for corrective surgerie from a birth defect or as the doctors called them annomolies, i had to have many collorectal surgeries to correct an imperforated anus (no but hole) of which it was in 1998 right affter the extensive testing for Vocational Rehabilitation that i under went experimental surgerie. This caused excrutiating pain because the Artificial bowel spicter was never properly activated for over a year when i went to the bathroom it was like pushing bowling balls through a garden hose,,, it took until 2005 for all of the corrective surgeries from the device 5 i think in total. Now i have a colostomy for the first time since i was a year and a half old, that means i was completely incontinant until the age of 28 then i was still incontinent and in much pain so not until 33-35 was in controle of my bowels. The main surgeries occured shortly after 2001 it was October 2001 when the muscles in my back pulled a pedicle and fractured another in my spine as well as causein a hematoma on the kidney from rabbit punches to the Kidney area it was 4 years from that it did not rain in that part of Nebraska, until i went back for a visit and heard this and said a prayer and at that moment it began to rain. It then took until recently to regain my composer/sanity from what ive endured especialy since 911 because you see it is an interesting coincednce that my Astrology chart is exactly the same as America,,, like i said my ancestors were known for being magical Kings, the long haired Kings, Grail Kings, and mabey at times Priest Kings. It was and is said we have what some would call magical powers but it is the spiritual protection and guidnce given to some of us from God that we can extend to our people that is probley the most mysteriouse. There has ben so much more that has happend the most desterbing was how so many tried to controle me through manipulation and at times what some would call MK-Ultra then finding out who i was not only through life experinces but also the Lakota and the research i have done,,, To the Lakota i am Weho Peyata eh Mani (the one that comes from the sunset) as well as the name i heard on my first vision queste Tahoopa who aloa (Singing Feather) which two years afterwords i found out Singing Feather was the creation story of the Tribes of the Lost Coast in Northern california,,, when these two names come together they form a new one Tahoopa hoo aloa Weho Peyata eh Mani (The One That Comes from The West with the Word/Power of God under His Wings)...
Well ive got to go and give someone a ride now gotta go.

May your heart fallow the same path you walk

[curly]

nice story,i was wondering about the coins and stone artefacts that were found,where were they found and where are they now please.

[dark86]

the film with clive owen made king arthur look like a man who supported the romans, worshipped a christian god and fought saxons...get this....NORTH of hadrians wall.

the film 'king arthur' butchers all the myths and legends to keep us away from any sort of real story or truth.

[kimball13]

i just lost alot of writing and links i will try to resume and re-write links and background as i said its a cover-up

[kimball13]

My dirrect ancestor and the coins he was also known as the first Pendragon

Cunobeline - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[kimball13]

the stone found in Tintagel norhern Corwall
http://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/articles/artstone.html

many of the stories of Arthur are a compilation of many Kings from the same family, and also the church helped to distort some.

I have to go now, have an appointment, they are relizing im not insane and changeing the record hopefuly.

i will be back and try to write more meanwhile do some research and think as to why they would want to controle such a person

heres a tid bit, when i confronted Michael La Fosse (aka prince Michael of Albany) he folded and soon after left Scottland on the run and still hasnt surffaced, then therewas Tracy Twyman/Nicholas De vere whom i also confronted because i was appalled at his claim as well as what he was teaching people,,,,,,and and e-mail i sent to Prince Albert of Monaco, Prince Albert hopped on a plain the next day to pay a visit to Pres Bush jr. There is alot of power and authority attached to my birthright and the power structure has tried to put there own puppets/pretenders in place and there is more. such as Michael La fosse's ambassador to America was a former Marine corps intelegence officer, mabey latter on my experience with the corps

[kimball13]

ask Yourself why are the Templar's demanding complete return of there assets from the Vatican

[kimball13]

In the book "The Templar Papers" (published around 2005) the World head of the Templars states that the Templars espeialy The American Templars were taken over in 1997 by a group of what he calls Retired egotistical Military types, it wasnt until 1998 that allot of info of who Arthur was came out....by the way the world head of the Templar organization says he is work on correcting this grave atrocity.

The plot thickens,,,it would appear as if the Church as well as a few others truly believe in the Prophecy of the Return of the King,,,it allso appears as if they want to controle or create there own King to fill the slot by any means nesisary. Ive done my research, ive lived this conspiracy and have experinced much of what they can do but they have also experinced what God does for me.

on june 20 2008 i found myself in deap dispare so i prayed God please show a sign let me know im on the right track, protect me guide me, show me an unmistakable sign. I then walke out of the emergency room and what was a clear hot sunny day without a cloud in the sky turned into a lightning storm, 8,000 lightning strikes in an instant setting of 1,000 fires in northern California, in the county i live they called it the Mendocino Lightning Complex fires.

I live just north of the infamouse Bohemian Grove, i gues you could say in the heart of enemy territory possibley surrounded by enemy's or just missguided people thanks to the likes of Tracy Twyman and Nicholas DeVere,,, as a matter of fact as i walked to my appointment i noticed a man go by me and out of the corner of my eye i caught him talking into his hand just like what you see secret service agents do, this has happend on quite a few differnt occasions, Then there was my stay in ST Louis,,, a little of what happend there was this.
In ST Louis around 1997-1998 i underwent a Month of Psychological testing as well as a # of IQ tests, and possibley much more i dont remember. The highest ranking marine corps reserve officer gave me my hand eye cordination tests (odd dont you think) My psychological tests came back as being the ideal cannidate for Quantico (intelegence college) as well as pollitician and religiose leader, the IQ test they said they could not accuratly gauge how high it was all they told me is that it was very high....When i quistioned them as to why i was an ideal cannidate they told me that i was exactly text book perfect for a special agent in charge positition...It was shortly after this that i found myself in a severe car accident where a car plowed into my side of the car at 45 miles and hour through a red light, then a mental ward stay, then experimental surgerie for and Artificial Bowel Sphincter (#17 in the world to recieve this) then came years of extream physical pain and hardships, only to then find myself around people that may or may not have bin involved with the likes Jim Channon, Col. John Alexander. When i spoke to Jim Channon (first earth battalion) i asked him about a device i found on my X-ray/ct/mri films he laghed and said they did it to you to, if you look up Jim's millitary carrear you will find that his mane job was to explore the supernatural for millitary application,,,he now runs a group called Arcturus which consults for the likes of ATT, he is into social architecture, Good Guy or bad Guy i dont know but he knows who i am and he and i possibly met aroung 1980 when i was between the ages of 9-10 in San deigo and mabey in Hawia later that year during the Iran hostage crisis....There are good guys and bad guys so imeshed with one another it is hard to tell who is wha at times.....there was also a man that i began to develope a freindship with shortly before 911 (i will not say who he is because he may still be active), he was part of Stargate program as well as consulting for the millitary durring this current war,,,,yes i have phone records of many calls i made to 29 palms,,,it seamed he tried to guide me and help, but i kept getting the fealing he was doing it for selfish or spooky (cia) reasons,,,, he kept telling me that part of what was happening to me was because there were alot of people jealous of me, yet when i asked why he would never say....Then there is what they did to my father,,,,,,,,,As Delta force was starting there was a parralel army program called Blue Light that was in almost compitition for funding and manpower,,,,,,Did i mention my Great uncle was in charge of an army base at one time,,i believe it was outside of Seatle,,now there is another part of the story my time in Washington state around my puberty years and the hypnotheripy there,,,my step-mother who may or may not have bin spooky,,,but what i do know is she was a licenced psychic for the U.S.A during Veitnam and from her description it matched with what i was later to learn was Stargate,(rmote veiwing). then my intimant knowlege (what i thought were just theories of mine) of the Trojan Warrior project as well as a few other things which i found out the hard way by typeing into the search engine what i knew from my own experince and seing pages of info on the very thing almost verbatum,,,then also atracking the attention of people in the know,,, then there is the look on some of my freinds faces that were special forces and army rangers when i would share a theorie i had,,,interestingly ive found out that alot of the people in my life have bin associated in one way or another the covert world (almost like babysitters) and for some of them i hold a great respect for as well a love them, and would like to see them treated with more compasion and love, i know what is like to have the very people your protecting fear you,,,,some of them are very remarkble people and hold powerful spiritual gifts (as the Bibble says even the Elect will be deceived)and like the rest of us even Good loving Spiritual people that only want to bring an end to war and suffering are manipulated and used for gastly things,,,,imagine the saying and philosiphie of every poison is a medicine and every medicine a poison, now apply this to lets say a spiritual healer and a killer, if you take a healer and turn them into a killer some of them have the added bonus of perverting there gift to use in there dark work. But dont get me wrong there are true Healers that are also warriors,,,just as legends told not only a mighty warrior but a uniter and healer to the land and the people,,,,Ya wonder why Cunobelinus/Pendragon united the people against the romans just before the Legendary arrival of Mary Magedeline after the Crucifixion (mabey to establish a safe haven for the Grail) ya know seeing as how Cunobelinus some say is of the Line of King David, just as Jesus Christ, as they say what is family for. and there you have a bit more info of part of what has bin happening,,,i apologise for my inability to convey this info sooner, the last 11 years have ben especialy difficult and i had to concert most of my energy to other tasks (survival by almost any means nesisary) i knew it was a matter of not only physical survival but also mental and i could not attack any one and as time went on i relized part of the game was for some reason they could not physicaly attack me and someone needed me to commit suicied and that is the only way,,, then i relized in the story of the Long Haired Kings that they could not drink alchohol and there hair was said to be magical, then in 2000 after suffering legal trouble do to 3 differnt mendocino county offices loosing papperwork, there was also the David Anderson case at which i testified as to his sanity which by the way overturned his insanity plea for murdering his wife in front of his children, the doctors having me on 6 differnt pcycotropic meds and a stay in sutter mental health hostital for a month if found myself in Reno at circus circus drinking JD on top of the meds. In a black out i some how made my way in to one of there double locked door counting room and cash cage, i then came to and knew this is somwhere im not supposed to be, i then got out of there into the main cassino floor and for some reason i could not find and exit so i wallked up to a security gaurd and asked he then imediatly was shocked and got on his radio next i know there is a circle of over 10 guys i reapeated to them several time i have PTSD and on medication just show me the door dont touch me please i dont know how i will react, they said no we have to grab you and physicaly throw you out, that is when a big one stepped out of the circle i side stepped and without touching him or anone else hopped over them and made my way to a hallway where i was then dogpiled and taken to Washoe county jail where i was told to be released cut my hair and thay will think about it, i cut my hair, and was released having served 18 days i was only charged with simple battery which means i only moved out of the way when security was trying to aprehend me and is now dissmissed, there was also the hallucinagen i was slipped which set me back a little, thank God for the Apache gene for the peyote that my mother took while pregnant

well goto go

May your heart be the same as the path you walk

[mahabaratara]

if you are who you say you are then can you please explain some of the esoteric practices your people practice and why...

[mahabaratara]

or how astrology is woven into your peoples histories and what all the sacred sites dotted around the united kingdom were used for...

[kimball13]

like i said i was kept away from my fathers side for most of my life, My step-mother told me not to learn and made me promise not to learn the druidic ways, she herself being a Druidic preistes who happend to also be Christian, Ever hear of a Masonic saying as well as Christian about them making a mistake and casting aside the cheif cornerstone.

i practice and learned the ways of the Inipi (sweat lodge), Sundance, i look for spiritual truth in all Spiritual ways,,, and i feal in my heart and in my blood when i hear or sea spiritual practice spiritualy perverted, i dont know why and it has caused me great distess.

I do know the Starfire that Nicholas Devere teaches (his is actualy a voodoo practice)is differnt than the true Starfire,,,You see what ive learned from Elders is that a spiritual truth never changes no matter what you practice,,,i also learned this as a Fire Keeper for the people, i did my dirt time at the Fire helping the Elders for many years and was honored with the title of Fire Chief of the Lakota at the sundance on Pine Ridge of the Standing Buffalo clan, one of the hereditary Chiefs of the Lakota, whose ancestor was the one that reicived the pipe (Chanupa) from the White Buffalo Calf Woman, with other Chiefs in attendance such as well as Wallace BlackElk and Leonard Crow Dog. this happend in 1997 go figure.

The full name i recieved in 1994 is Tahoopa hoo aloa Weho Peyata Eh Mani (the one that comes from the sunset with the word of God/Great Spirit coming from his wings), i was known as Weho Peyata Eh Mani (the one that comes from the sunset, or just by my first name)

I would like to know more about what the true Celtic peoples practiced,,,yet it was also said we had our own pecular Christain almost pagan practice,,,The best i understand what it boils down to is service to the people, Mother Earth, and God. Just trying to muddle through the history and figure out why we were rarely mentioned has ben difficult.

And i only claim to have more of a right to the titles that others have laid claim to and it may only be my task to make sure that they do goe to the rightfull heir, but unfortunately so far ive realy ben the only one to actualy be able to trace my roots back,,,,more so than even the Current royal family in England,,,,Plantard,,,and the likes,,,,some of them claim to be desendnt of the frankish Kings, yes only to Charlamange whos father was Pippin the Short, which was the traitorouse Mayor (best freind of Daggobert) with and alliance with the Pope that took over the Franks,,,Of which Bush is desendnt of.

[kimball13]

ill be back in a bit, i will share what i know and feal about astrology and the sacred sites, it may not be much but its a piece of the puzzle

[mahabaratara]

Just asking thats all...

You will find that the practices the "ancients" used were in essence similiar...

As for bloodlines...

Well we are all bloodline...

We come the same way and go the same way...

With nothing...

I cant speak for you but essentially thats it...

[mahabaratara]

PS IMHO the "dragon" they always go on about=kundalini but thats my 2p...;)

[whitelightrabbit]

good thread.

[kimball13]

im in agreement, in the Sundance (Lakota) we believe the only thing a man owns is his own skin, that is why we peirce, to offer the only thing we own to Great Spirit along with our prayer's and to sacrafice in almost the same way Jesus Christ did, this is the main reason for this.

Kundalini , JUst a theorie but its what i believe and what ive seen happend in some of my travels, sexual energy to be (not necisarily a bad byproduct) a byproduct of the Creative energy for and example Chi energy/life force energy....This is where our sex drive comes from at times,,,we do not procreate because its fun (yet its an added bonus) we procreate because thats how we were designed. This is why some spiritual leaders/healers at times fall into turning there fallowing into almost like a harem, because they dont understand that sometimes it is from the cerimony that the left over (mabey a gift i dont know) makes them want to go home and procreate (mabey a little to much).... This is why im for Catholic Priests being allowed to mary (there are many reasons for this)

[kimball13]

We are all related:)

[kimball13]

oops misspelling (ha ha) Aho Mytokuya Oyasin (Lakota for yes we are all related)

[kimball13]

It has bin a long held belief of mine that sacred sites, lay lines, power points, vortexes, and the likes are Mother Earths Acupuncture/Acupressure points.... And we have an affect on these as well as they have an affect on us,,,i also believe that some are responsible for creating new one's both good and bad,,,look at Abu Ghraib where our troops tortured pow's, that place has a history of human atrocities which either intentionaly or unintentionaly instead of cleaning up the energy there we contributed to the bad mojo.

Iraq hum, now there is an interesting situation, who knows maybe Saddam actually found the Tower of Babel while he was draining the Marsh's. Imagine if that site actualy existed and the knowleg that could be gleaned about man right before he was sent in all directions with differnt laguages. My belief is if God made it so man could not work together because the Tower wasnt the answer, that also tells me that God split up Spirituality and possibly gave each race a piece of the True Spirituality,,,,and its up to us to work together without a tower to build, pyramid or church.....maybe that is why Fellowship was so important to Christ rather than what churned into a den of money changers

[kimball13]

i want people to know i came here to learn and share,,,this is very difficult for me,,,most of what ive learned was from experience, i needed to find out why i found myself realizing that some of the people i was around claimed something called Dragon deccent one compared me to the Deriny(fictional huminoid race feared by the Church)(some commenting i can see your a dragon to)when i went to the internet for more info i had quistions that were answers,,,, i looked into certain belief systems of people that asked me odd ?s as well as there genealogy (especially when they claimed royal linage). I found out why they treated me differntly as if they walked on egg shells at times (just like when the alpha dog comes around)(usualy when i was confident with faith in God). Sometimes they would comment something like, you dont know who you are do you, or he has the marks (by the way the one that asked about the marks nearly took my head of with a Katana) after that i learned the differnce of a rightside up triangle and an upsidedown triange, one on the right the other on the left. then there is the one on my thigh. It also occurd to me that they were looking for somebody and if it wasnt me (hopefully not me) then i wanted to find out what peices of the puzzle i could find and either help myself or who ever it is that they seek.... Some of the people within the system i found could not give me any answers so they would ask me quistions to point me in a dirrection,,,one ? was when did things realy start heating up, my answer was well its pretymuch always bin a hardroad then i sat down and started plugging away and relized 1997-1998, as well as some of what ive written so far it was by 1998 my grandfather and father passed on and noticed a time line that correlated both leading up to and after.... And by the way i havnt seen any talk on the nsa archive that was moved to the trade tower complex just prior to 911(good way to get rid of alot of dirt, no telling how many birds they killed with one stone).... and the Bird Tribes what about them,,,some say a bird is similar to a reptile,,,,Eagles like to snack on snakes.... This is another intersting thing i was told,,,we cant trust you because you are both (Bird Tribe and Reptile), after he looked at my medical reports and X-ray/ct/mri scans,,,he also noticed my vascular system was similar to that of a bird and i could possibley handle a greater amount of G-forces....So all this talk about reptiles and hybrids i havnt found much touched on about the bird tribe. and then again how many differnt hybrids are there.;)

[seeker1111]

just wanted to let you know that i've been watching this thread and your posts are interesting. i can't really comment on anything because i don't know much about what you speak of. in any case, i'll be following it.

welcome to the forum by the way :)

[curly]

It has bin a long held belief of mine that sacred sites, lay lines, power points, vortexes, and the likes are Mother Earths Acupuncture/Acupressure points.... And we have an affect on these as well as they have an affect on us,,,i also believe that some are responsible for creating new one's both good and bad,,,look at Abu Ghraib where our troops tortured pow's, that place has a history of human atrocities which either intentionaly or unintentionaly instead of cleaning up the energy there we contributed to the bad mojo.

Iraq hum, now there is an interesting situation, who knows maybe Saddam actually found the Tower of Babel while he was draining the Marsh's. Imagine if that site actualy existed and the knowleg that could be gleaned about man right before he was sent in all directions with differnt laguages. My belief is if God made it so man could not work together because the Tower wasnt the answer, that also tells me that God split up Spirituality and possibly gave each race a piece of the True Spirituality,,,,and its up to us to work together without a tower to build, pyramid or church.....maybe that is why Fellowship was so important to Christ rather than what churned into a den of money changers

and everyone was supposed to share their knowledge when they met up again probably,at the end of a cycle,shame the europeans had lost all their spirituality or had it kept from them and wanted to kick the crap out of everyone and steal everything.

[kimball13]

:)Thank you both very much Curly and Seeker1111....

there is a very good site called freemantv http://freemantv.artopium.com/
he bings alot of good info to light, i would say he is probly one of the best model of reporters ive ever seen, especialy the way he approachs subjects and guests.

curly: i agrea compleatly with everyone shareing there knowledge when they meat up again at the end of the cycle, as to Europeans loseing there spirituality, i see it as if they removed there Heart (kindof like in the movie the Chronicles of Ridick and his battle against the Necronomicons),,,,And what i can find it appears as if alot of what is currently (last 1,000 years or more) happening has bin orcastrated by the Vatican.

Gregg Bradden also has some good info as to what is happening,,,yet i dont know where he stands as far as the system is conserned. He did work for NASA. if you have a chance check out his talk on Zero point energy, Schumann Resonances/ Earth frequency (13 hertz by 2012). Schuman 13 hertz/Mayan 13 baktun cycle 2012. Science and spirituality, where once one in the same, two making a third just like the trinity, Mother Earth+God=all of us,,,,we have acted like children playing one parent against the other. the differnce here is we cant fool Mother Nature and God:)just food for thought:)we took what we all were created from and fooled ourselves into thinking because we have freewill that we could impose it on Mother Earth and God (maybe by buildin such things like the tower of Babel) or by thinking we could conquere the land, throughout history Mankind has tride to get closer to god status by taken the Mother Earth from there neihbors then confusing them with being forced to practice traditions they were unfamilar with. imagine if you made your apponent play basket ball on there hands, even though they know the game in a whole sense, when you take there legs and turn them upsidedown theyle know something is wrong with thepicture, and until we all relize we can stand and use our hands we will be way behind.:cool:

[curly]

freeman tv yeah i've seen this guy before a couple of times,if he were a doctor you would say he had a very good bedside manner.I watched the william henry interview,very interesting,good site.

[kimball13]

He appears to have controlled a substantial portion of south-eastern England, and is called "Britannorum rex" ("king of the Britons") by Suetonius. He also appears in British legend as Cynfelyn, Kymbelinus or Cymbeline, in which form he is the subject of a play by William Shakespeare. His name means "hound of (the god) Belenus" or "shining hound".
Cunobeline - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Belenus=shinning one=heat and healing
Belenus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Belisama =summer bright=lakes,rivers,fire,crafts and light. Belisama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

could Belisama be the lady of the lake?

[aratron]

My dirrect ancestor and the coins he was also known as the first Pendragon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunobelinus

do you know where excalibur is?

[phildee3]

do you know where excalibur is?

It's safely in the etheric.

If it were allowed to manifest as a physical object it would be siezed and its power abused by tyrants.

[kimball13]

Britannorum rex" ("king of the Britons") Cynfelyn, Kymbelinus or Cymbeline,name means "hound of (the god) Belenus or "shining hound".

Belenus was a deity worshipped in Gaul, Britain and Celtic areas of Italy, Austria and northern Spain His name means "shining one, heat, healing. also known as Apollo or the sun.has been variously recognized as a god of light and the sun, truth and prophecy, archery, medicine and healing, music, poetry, and the arts; and more. consort of Belisama =summer bright=lakes,rivers,fire,crafts and light. And by the way if king of the brittons is Gods dog that would mean he is only loyal to God....maybe he was the one that kept the other kings in line, such as kept them from f*^*cking with the people and over stepping there bounds. Like ive always said every predator has a predator or hunter.......Makes sense why the stories of Excalbur exist.

this is starting to creap me out, To some Apache, God has a dog, and i believe there is a vision of this, i will have to research more. This is relevant believe it or not.

in most cultures, the dog symbolizes loyalty and protection.


Intresting this took place in the forest, and could they mean a dog of two legs, Saint Roch (also called Saint Rocco), who lived in the early 1300s in France, as the patron saint of dogs. It is said that he caught the black plague while doing charitable work and went into the forest, expecting to die. There he was befriended by a dog which licked his sores and brought him food, and he was able to recover.
The feast day of Saint Roch, August 16, is celebrated in Bolivia as the "birthday of all dogs."[

my birthday in chinese astrology is the temple dog, protector of the temple.
in my vision in 1993, it was a dog with the hair color of golden that protected me from three black dogs, on my journey in a barren land with the ocean to my right as well as a cliff, we journeyed to our destination as i say he was on my left and the dog of golden hair turned into what i could make out was Sasquatch/Bigfoot, we spoke of things, yet the most important was when he pointed to a group of people and told me, You will teach and protect my children. (I left out some details for now.)

a friend of mine who happend to be of the house of Habsburg (americanized change and spelling of course)around the same time introduced me to his daughter at a sundance, Later on he told me i was hopeing you and my daughter would have hit it off. he told me this after my break up with my fiance which happend to be his doughters best freind, by the way my ex-fiance's mother is from France a French arisicratic family as well as being judges........this man later on in 2001 says he has the marks, for days after that his body language when he held his katona told me he was trying to decide if he should attack me,,,one time going as so far as to swing it inches obove my head while i sat at the kitchen table, i dont know why but i felt as if God was telling me dont worry i will protect you, so i say still, i had seen it comming way in advance. For the record in practice as well as sparing i am far more advanced than he was, he also became very jeolouse of this because he is 20 years my senior,,,,every time he wanted to go at it i smoked him, it was always as if time stood still.....It was these things as well as some of the questions, coments, that got me thinking what marks is he talking about, have ya seen the seven seals of the seven arch angels, well pretty similar(just found this out tonight)but it was the one on my right thigh that realy concerned me, as well as the one's on my right and left arm, which match up with the seals of Michael and Gabriel, even as far as what side there on.

teen years i meat who i was to later find out is the Grandson of Winston Churchill,,,later on the mother of Churchils greatgrandson is one of the directores/founders of recovery center i went to (1994),i have to also mention that it was churchils family that introduced me to the drugs i had to later recover from (a little cause a problem provid a solution bs) earleir i mentioned they sabataged my life, well it was several times)it was her current boyfreind/one of the cofounders attacked me physicaly, alone in a room and in his attack he says to me yu think your so powerfull(i had to keep myself from hurting him because he had two broken ribs and i knew were they were,when i thought if he doesnt get of me now im going to go for the ribs he then got up and left the room)there is alot more to that storie.....and did i say the pcy-ops began to ramp up in a town called albion, wasnt that also a druidic order Churchill belonged to.

why do i mention the Habsburgs and Churchills,,,,,well i knew they had a role i just didnt know what or why until 2003 it has taken me 5 years to recover from numerouse physical/chemical/surgical/emotional/them trying to herd me ito dark work atacks to get to this point. and thank you it was this forum that led me to some info that showed me where the money came from to do what they did,,,,i new it had to cosst alot, to botch numerouse surgeries (was i ever realy disabled, ot did they do it)when important records were needed goverment offices convenently lost them, to run pcy-ops, install Michael Lafosse as Prince Michael of Albany(he is currently sought for questioning by interpol). Ther was also the e-mail i sent to Prince of Monaco asking for assistance, the next day on the news they show him making a suprise visit to Bush jr. My life has slowly gotten better since, ive noticed help unseen, as well as Monacos Prince pledgeing to clean up the criminal money lounering in his country........

Churchills are part of the group that set up a sumer solstes festival in Glastonbury(fabled place of King Arthurs tomb) year after my birth, june 27,28,29 are the fesival dates around my birthday 28, my astological contempory is Bush jr, if you set our charts side by side they look oppisite.


i notice on the forum a thread that talked about Habsburg being the culmination of the Europeon prophecy's of a Great King, uniter of the people.

and who knows mabey the current Queen of England knows of this? or charles? and by the way Princes Diana,from my research has more original Royal Blood of Brittain than Charles, She passed away the same year they found evidence of the Real Arthur,,,,and as it turns out she is a distant cousin of mine

as well as a fortune teller tel me at 9 yu will have 4 wives and 12 children, i always wonderd what that ment all i could figure is it must simbolise something

1997 around 5 years before i found out about our family origen i went to a healer that offerd a free healing clinic,,,,part of what they offerd was a look at past lives and such,,,,,,she all of a sudden turns white as a ghost, i asked what,,,,,,she only replied 1300 years ago (i guese that would put it around the fall of the Daggobert dynasty merovingians) something bloody happend to my people and something about revenge,(tracy twymans daggoberts revenge website also touted someone claiming king of the withcheshas a role in this tobut not with, the healer) She then told me i would take my fathers Sword, and that my fathers anger was put upon me(what makes him angy makes me angry) she then quikly told me that is all i can say.......it struck me odd the way she acted it reminded me of the storie of either solomon or sol when he went to a whitch and when she say who he was she was very frightend....

i will only mention that in around 2000 i befrended a person who had spent many years in millitary, intelgence feild analyst, stargate, we spent many hours on the phone discussing many subjects includeing his work,,,,he told me the biggest problem i have is there are alot of people jeolouse of me, it took me awhile to figure out the posility why, whar are these marks anyway espeicialy the one on the right thigh,,,,then one day listening to the radio a preacher came on preaching about a rider on a white horse and how he thought it was the ant-christ so i thought ok ill check it out because in around 1996and frend of mine dying of cancer had a vision of me before he died, he told me i saw you on a white horse leading an army of warriors,,,,so this white horse guy especialy caught my attention because, my life has bin odd as well as alot of what appeard as opposition, the vision my freind had and i figured i better read this and find out because if some of my associats that were around alot of this may be thinking im the ant-christ f@ch me,,,but i thought this could not be because my life has sucked and ive lived in poverty almost all of it so far so how could anyone think that anyway, so i said well ok i'll look,,,,,,then there is revaltions chapter 19, a rider on a white horse leading an army with a mark on his right thigh and that mark was a name know only to he king of kings lord of lords, i said no way is that possible there is no way im Christ i mean comon that is definatly impossible,,,,so i dug deeper and i found that there were differnt oppinions on wether it was Christ or someone else entirly ,,, then i relized what was written on his thigh wasnt my name it was it is the mark of the one i follow king of kings lord of lords Christ, the one i have loved as my protector and teacher since very early childhood, it freaked me out big time, Also, considering the rider is given a crown (something only seen to be given to Jesus or the 24 elders... The crowned white horseman could therefore represent the sending-forth by Jesus of the Holy Spirit. In a similar vein, the white horse and rider may be held to represent the advance of the gospel of Jesus Christ

as well as relizing why the only thing that has kept me from going into BLACK-OPS/intelegence is because for some reason ive always felt the gifts God gave me are for a Higher purpose than performing bloodshed for USA....and i have alway bin inclined and gifted with qulitys certain agency's love to have.....then i went through a period of time were i figured just alot of coincedances,,,,and a couple of weaks before my birth day after trying to get thing moveing in my life,,,,i bagan to pray to God telling him give me direction,guideme, show me what i have to do, and if you wont just take me because as you know God i cannot take my own life,,,,after weaks of things getting worse,,,i went to the emergency room from panic attacks, juring that time i prayed God please show me a unmistakble sign, show me a purpose, protect me, i dont know what to do i feel like ive lost my way somehow,,,,as i walked out i noticed that what was a cloudless day was now a full blown lightning storm,,it was the sign i just prayed for, at least now i know God is listening,,,,,,the next day the storm was all over the news,,,yet i did not have time to look into it i had to go help at an inipi cerimony (sweat lodge, bringer of life),,,,we notice all around us the valley was smoke, we knew there were fire and there was alot of lightning the previose day but my God was the smoke thick,,,,it was cool because a guy i know that braggs that he was jesuit trainned was there astonished at how the fire was and how it never left the pit not even burning the grass that had grown on the rim,,,he was also astonished that i the fire tender had no problem or fear of the fire spreading to the surrounding brush, then i went into the lodge leaveing the fire without my physical being out there to watch it....after that he said i didnt believe you when you said that, the fire in the pit was spiritual and would not leave the pit it hasnt done that and it wont, then he said but now i do.

Then when i got home i found out the real extent of the fire, and how many lightning strike,,,, 8,000 strikes 1,000 fires. and it was 8 days before my birthday there are 8 spokes in the sun symbol, to the catholics the white horse is the sun, im a Sundancer, when i aske my freind before what he thought the white horse was he said the Lakota, Known as the people that carrie the eagle wing, the family that were the first pipe cariers were some of my Elders. The name i heard and accepted on my first vision queste Singingfeather, a year after i found out when i happend to come across a book titiled singingfeather to i thought i should look at it, i found that singingfeather was the name they used for the first man in the creation story of the very tribe that had occupied the lost coast were my vision quest was,,,,it was after my first vision quist my teacher Richard Sparrow Eagle (Cheif of the Standing buffalo) recieved a name for me The one that comes from the sunset,,,what is ther about the old sun passing and the new sun takes its place that is mixed in the talk about Habsburg being the King of all of the Europeon prophecy's,,,,did i mention it was through Churchills greatgandsons mother that i met Richard. And in lokota it is the west/sunset that the great cheifs, holy men. warriors went wen they passed on to prepare to come back and help the people in this time of need,,,it is also the thunder beings that have the power to sustain life and destroy it, the teaching with this is when a storm sweeps the land everything runs and hides, somethings die, yet with the storm comes the life giving rains and when the storm passes every thing comes out fresh and new, the birds sing and the animals rejoice.

then ther is when i was healing at my moms outside my cottage there wa a garden and in that garden was a dead stick in the ground that i noticed while healing from an extremly hemotomad kidney, for a year i watched that dead stick become a full blown FIG TREE i mean about 13 feat tall, i tripped big time so did my mom,sister, and brother....after i healed my mom had to move the house was being sole by the landlords,,,My sister loved that tree so much she came to try to dig it up and take it to her home.


now why would they attack someone that could possibley be the Prophecy of Celtic people's,,,,ever since oh wel not counting the boched surgeries 3 1/2 when a volotile acid Hydrocloric acid was put in a juice bottle and left in a room in my reach and i drank it.

and if i was just some distant cousin that was unimportant why have they bin around me so much as well as possibley being responsible for great harships..... if you look at my posts there is more that is througout my writting touching on the odditie's in my life. and by the way if justified i will pysicaly take someone on but i always had to feal it in my heart,,i dont punch or kick, some have said it is like watching someone dance, the one that i had to put in his place is always just a hair away from going away and i always stop at the last second with the person in some kindove lock without hurting them or causing any bruises, or there running. at 23 my nickname that i was given becaus of someone seeing a fight i was in started calling me Grace,,,,The only time i have ever bin injured was when i drank alchohol,,,and it occured to me who does that remind me of and oh my God you got to be kiding me Sampson. It is strange the things i came out of without much worse for wear, now dont get me wrong i get paper cuts, and i never think im a badas, but there are time that when im around some people i can feel its almost as if God put on my heart this person needs to change or they will suffer.........And by the way all the way up to the Mendocino lightning fire my freind the one that comments every now and then that he is Jesuit trained used to hang out almost everyday, and almost everyday he would go on on how his brother inlaw was trying to take over the fammilys money (oh about 10-18 milion in money none have an accurate count,,, as well as some high dollar comercial market street and other properties in San Fransisco) anyways he has kept his distance ever since the Mendocino lightning fire with no explanation other than i would not believe what he is going through.

huh he wouldnt believe what im going through, but hay its all there, ive done my best to put it out of my mind and move on, but since that Lightning storm, things have changed drasticly on many levels the one that is the strangest is the large increase in energy that i feal , sometimes i feel like im going to explode because of the amount flowing into me,,, and quite a few people are saying what a diffence they see.....and by the way im not loaded (drunk or on drugs)im in recovery,,,,just in case ya thought i was loaded beyond mental sanity,,,,


my God did i write that much i never liked to write until recently,,,especialy as much as i have since i joined the forum. im not even going to spell check this one way to long for the spell checker for some reason:cool:

[kimball13]

do you know where excalibur is?

i wish, i havnt found any historical evedence:rolleyes:

sorry aratron it appeared you were asking a joke quistion,,,,,,

[kimball13]

It's safely in the etheric.

If it were allowed to manifest as a physical object it would be siezed and its power abused by tyrants.


thank you for explaining this it is the same way i feal, i feal it is more a spiritual tool...that is why i posted sarcasticly to the guy that posted before you.so what do yo think the stone is;) ive got a pretty good idea but i like to see if mine is similar to someone elses

[kimball13]

Did i mention the Illuminate aproached me a year and a half ago and asked me to join, and by the way they do cal themseves the Illuminate. Good sales pitch but i couldnt becouse acording to what ive read, and what i feal and besides if there approaching me and if there is a reason, i think i know why and they shouldve bin asking me if they could join was the first thought that poped in my head,,,,,the arrogance, they caused me all these problems and then ask me to join, think that i didnt consider that they had a hand, or did they think i was braindead and never looked around at what was happening in my imediate surroundings,,,,,did they think that they kept me so confused that i couldnt process the info of my surroundings. Guesse i did a good job a playin stupid, or was i given them a chance to change there ways, trying to keep it on the dl until recently.

[phildee3]

thank you for explaining this it is the same way i feal, i feal it is more a spiritual tool...that is why i posted sarcasticly to the guy that posted before you.so what do yo think the stone is;) ive got a pretty good idea but i like to see if mine is similar to someone elses



It is the Lia Fal, the stone of destiny.

Brought from the city of Falias in Tir na Nog.

Excalibar is the sword of Nuada, another of the four hallows - along with the Daghda's cauldron (which becomes the Holy Grail) and Lugh's spear (the bleeding lance at Chapel Perilous).

We celebrate Lugh's wedding this Sunday morning at the chapel site.

[kimball13]

It is the Lia Fal, the stone of destiny.

Brought from the city of Falias in Tir na Nog.

Excalibar is the sword of Nuada, another of the four hallows - along with the Daghda's cauldron (which becomes the Holy Grail) and Lugh's spear (the bleeding lance at Chapel Perilous).

We celebrate Lugh's wedding this Sunday morning at the chapel site.

i aways felt if the sword is spiritual, then the STone that it encased in must be of a spirtual nature, not to exclude material objects. ive thought also mabey the green crystaline almost emerald looking stone that apeared in my life had something to do with something, and everybody ive asked only one iven had a clue and he said its and emerald (size of an egg) i dont think it is, then i looked into these storie's and then i found a desription of the Gem that fell from luicifers crown to earth during his battle with the ArchAngel Michael, and that jewel has ben sought out by many secret society's, the stone i have is is still with me.
i will have to look up the storie of the one that wrestled with the God's angel
i thought the stone destiny is the same one that Jacob wrestled his head, on after he wrestled with the angel of God until morning and refuseing to stop until he recieved a blessing from God, The stone that vibrates when the rightfull king sits on it, i can see this as being the stone the sword was in, spirtualy speaking,,,,,remember the lightning storm, well i felt as if a spiritual sword was being released from a spirutual stone, maybe just my own little personel one, but after everything that has happend who am i to limit God and say that the spiritual sword i pulled wasnt a sword of God, just like Excalabur was imbued with spiritual power.

it does appear that you are much more knowlegble than i about such matters...i havnt come across Nuada,Daghda's cauldron,Lugh's spear to my knowlege.. is Lugh's spear the spear of longinas(as in the one that peirced christ's side, the spear of destiny), i see the cauldron symbolises the Grail.

this also brings up the fact that from 94 on my spiritual teacher liked to call me Merlyn, when i asked why he liked to call me Merlyn he said it was because he had a vision of me and i looked like what he thought Merlyn looked like. He told me a time would come when i would do battle with a witch to save the people,,,i thought well ok i dont mind,,,and at that time i felt that i fit a more Artherian arcytype than a Myrlin arcytype, but who am i to say what God chose me for, and yes God does choose some before birth (Jerimiah for one, and ive said the same Jerimiah did many times) and at the time all i knew of Arthur was that he and his companions were archytypes, and the fact most legends/myths/folklore are founded in truth, so i decided to keep as much of an open mind about such things as much as i could. and if there was anything to his vision about me looking like as he put it, you know on of those wizards your people speak of, and if the info presented itself i would then look at it and pursue it to find out where it leads,,,,because we were taught that when a vision is recieved it is a vision for the people, a vision is to guide and protect the people, to heal the people to. I felt it my duty, when alot of this weird stuff realy began to start coming at me like gangbusters slowly picking up momentum since 2000, i knew it was my duty to at least accept the possibility of being something like Merlyn, then out of know where as im healing from injurie's at my mother's, and watching a fig tree grow from a dead stick, that had bin in the garden for as long as i can remember, i came across Tracy Twymans site, as well as pretender Prince Michael of Albany sites, so i odered the book merivingian mytho's, and looked into who this guy is trying to claim Scotish titles. and i noticed that a hand drawn picture of me was on his website, a picture drawn by an aquintance of mine back in 1987 (17 years of age), and that aquintance is also the one that introdused me to Churchills Grandson,,,and Michael was saying it was a picture of himself when he was younger,,,i said oh heck no,,,so with the little info i had i e-mailed him and basicaly told him he had no right to his claim, shortly after interpol went a knocken to question Michael,,and guues what he was on the run nowhere to be found....he also looked like XXXXXMarshals husband/Hamilton who were involved with my introduction to certain things not limited to the Churchills that to my knowlege died of a drug overdose. and that is why i e-mailed the Prince of Monaco for assistance as well as a few others. did i also mention that during my life i have always had someone close to me that had bin in Spec-ops.

all of this and the lighting storm on june 20th 2008 is what lit the fire under my ass and get on this forum and share this with you guys.....I dont know why this forum in paticular,,,, to be honest i thought David icke's info was good yet i never thought of sharing on a forum, but after the storm i was led to look up what Icke was up to and something caught my attention, so i started this thread thinking oh boy im in for it these guy's are just going to rip me to shreds alright God you led me here so no matter how crazy it sounds, youve got to tell your truth and the worst that could happen is i will find out that it all was fancifull thoughts, so here i am. And things have definately picked up since, as wel as the intense energy surge's that center in my heart, ah poop now im teering up. Which answerd why ive always felt for some reason my people were missing there heart. einogh for now im going to check some things out.....and thank you guys for the work you do here, we are all in the same boat.....and as they say follow the money and you will find out who is responsible for what has happend,,,,there was another kimball in this area that was the son of the kimball that worked for walt disney, he commited suicide a couple of years ago, and for some reason i relized why they could not kill me and why all of the pcy-ops of all types,,,for some reason the only way they can get rid of me is if i take my own life, guese that is why they tried to pull that bs about yaou maybe the anti-christ, they probley figured that if i thought that then i would kill myself becaus they knew from watching me that i have a habit of jumping infront of bullets for others, and if i thought this i would take myself out to save alot of time and trouble because being and anti-christ probley mean going to hell anyways so how could i be anymore punished.....but then it dowened on me that i have alway bin on the poor side of things and everything ive read about the anti-christ types they are always from a very rich childhood as well as being well edjucated and a gentamans gentaman. Now dont get me wrong im not a creatin, but i am known for being very to the point and very angry (up until june 20)and people have noticed a drastic change, but everone ive known has always said they respected and loved me because i was so honest and truthfull, and at times/alot of times my integrity caused me to stand alone for what is right......by the way some people that have seen the change attribute it to 12stepworkAA, i attribute it to the storm of june 20,and thanks to you guys i just multiplied 6 times 20=120 so i guese in a way it is 12,,,the reason why i like 13 is i alway felt that when you combined the 12 tribes you came up with a 13th the people comming together in unity,,,,13baktun.......

oh my God a family found in Georga usa, held hostage for years. we have to put a stop to these things. and quike it is realy bad, and what alot of us knew is happening is finnaly makeing it to the news. and shootings at the democratic headquarters at the capital Arkansa usa

oh before i go i wonder why in the new king arthur movie his squire is name Joel's, almost like saying he serves Joel, but that is Arthur where are they Joel's from and if they were going to give him a name that sounded like that why not say Arcturus's,,,,,,ever check out Jim Channons web site. I wonder who this Joel is;)

[kimball13]

Holy poop(the best fertilizer on the planet) i just noticed my last post was #33 on this thread, and by the way on my keyboard i just noticed the shift key for # is 3, weird 33 and a 3rd:eek: and it was in responce to phildee3,,,,,,so ya got 33anda3rd,,,may i ask what phildee3 means

[seeker1111]

i aways felt if the sword is spiritual, then the STone that it encased in must be of a spirtual nature, not to exclude material objects. ive thought also mabey the green crystaline almost emerald looking stone that apeared in my life had something to do with something, and everybody ive asked only one iven had a clue and he said its and emerald (size of an egg) i dont think it is, then i looked into these storie's and then i found a desription of the Gem that fell from luicifers crown to earth during his battle with the ArchAngel Michael, and that jewel has ben sought out by many secret society's, the stone i have is is still with me.


have you ever read the dragonlance series? there's a similar story about a green emerald that was extremely important, the queen of darkness was trying desparately hard to find it because it was her portal back to the earth dimension (or something like that, i read the book a while ago) but your post reminded me of that

i sometimes wonder if our fiction stories are not as fiction as we might think...

[kimball13]

have you ever read the dragonlance series? there's a similar story about a green emerald that was extremely important, the queen of darkness was trying desparately hard to find it because it was her portal back to the earth dimension (or something like that, i read the book a while ago) but your post reminded me of that

i sometimes wonder if our fiction stories are not as fiction as we might think...

oh my God:eek:

i just wanted to add some of the people responsibl must think me tupid,,,,one of them keeps coming around drunk and hanging out telling he's gotta get sober, but he always says he cant so i tell him that i cant help him if he cant meet me half way.....and oh boy the stuff i pick up from him, he fancy's himself a master manipulator,,,i told him the reason why you keep drinking is because of you heart ache from the way you have used your gifts and the things youve done in life with them, now its the time to choose, do you what to learn how to use your gifts for positive im sure we can figure this out togerther his jaw dropped he turned white as a ghost,,,,he is teatering on the edge of wet brain, and may be to far gone to help he is in God's hands...he also drive me nuts with his omnipotent attitude, epecialy when he double speaks to me and tries to talk around a subject or omit something that is important to th e conversation, ive come to the point rather that just listnen,, i go ahead and take there manipulatoin and poke holes in it making him tell me the truth,,,,he told me that is what he respects about me is that the whole time he has known me i have always bin straite with him and dont accept to much bs, and i have a habit of liveing by the addage leave no man behind, and it doesnt matter who is responsible for the violence i alway put a stop to it using Aikido of which i have verylittle formal training at all yet ima natural, and if i nead it i can call up hungar traditional shoulin kungfu of which im a nature at. and i always get the job done with out anyone getting hurt, even when i have to use force(use the Force Luke,just a funny,yet im sirius) just for the record almost every morning i pray that today that i will not have to use any of my gifts to hurt anyone,,,,i carie no weapons other that the ones God provides, and i have never used a physical weapon on any living creature other than a mouse with a broken back to put him out of his missorie from being caught in a mouse trap my dad set up, it was cutting the head of the mouse that made me decide that i would never use violence unless absoulutly necisary. i still shed a tear or two for that little mouse and the lesson that mouse taught me at 13, my biological fathers story is odd to, what i know of it,,,,i only knew him for 8 mnths (there's 8 again) before he recieved a masive head injury from a violent act by his best freind (his best freind now reminds me of Pippin the short).

[phildee3]

i aways felt if the sword is spiritual, then the STone that it encased in must be of a spirtual nature, not to exclude material objects. ive thought also mabey the green crystaline almost emerald looking stone that apeared in my life had something to do with something, and everybody ive asked only one iven had a clue and he said its and emerald (size of an egg) i dont think it is, then i looked into these storie's and then i found a desription of the Gem that fell from luicifers crown to earth during his battle with the ArchAngel Michael, and that jewel has ben sought out by many secret society's, the stone i have is is still with me.
i will have to look up the storie of the one that wrestled with the God's angel
i thought the stone destiny is the same one that Jacob wrestled his head, on after he wrestled with the angel of God until morning and refuseing to stop until he recieved a blessing from God, The stone that vibrates when the rightfull king sits on it, i can see this as being the stone the sword was in,



It is.
Jacob's "pillow" = Lia Fal = the gem in Lugh-cifer's crown = the philosopher's stone = white powder gold = Saint David's sapphire altar stone



is Lugh's spear the spear of longinas(as in the one that peirced christ's side, the spear of destiny),



Yes.
It is also the spear of Saint Michael.

It was forged in Findas (fire), where Nuada's sword was forged,
but Lugh weilds it from Gorias (air).
It is a light beam, carrying the life-force.

The fusion of fire and air is not a difficult concept, but fire and earth (the sword in the stone) is much more enigmatic, I think.
You see, kingship (or any king of heirarchy/rulership) never was supposed to exist on earth. It really only properly belongs in the heavenly realms.
Arthur himself is of the King of Kings archetype.
All these things, the various manifestations of the hallows - and of Arthur himself, are "spiritual" things but they manifest in the "real"/"historical" world because they are needed.
They cannot remain here as long as tyrants seek to posess them.
The spear of destiny, the stone of Scone, St. David's saphire (seized by Henry VIII from Glastonbury), even the Holy Grail, are all said to be held in secret places, but their power (if not their substance) returns to the etheric (I prefer this word to "spiritual") when held by tyrants.

The Irish otherworld, where the hallows originate, is the etheric Tir na Nog.
The Welsh adaptation places the otherworld more as an underworld - Annwyn -
where we have the fusion of fire and earth - the sword and the stone.

And fire-breathing dragons!

And Merlin suspended in ice -

now melting at last, it appears!

[kimball13]

maybe i should have titled it "I WAS ALMOST ONE OF THE MOST UGLY NWO PUPPETS, BUT NOW I'M JUST FEARED BY THE NWO." now that i take another look at it:) and think of this, they wanted to raise something to look up to it and that they can controle,,,,and why wouldnt they try to controle the real one,,,,,,but something went wrong with there plan,,,,,or should i say what was more powerful than there plan LOVE;) i will do the best i can to put down what happend.

and by the way if i wasnt me i would be dead, i mean this in the truest sense, they would have killed anyone of a lesser BLOODLINE(lesser is there belief), maybe there is a whole meriad of reasons....And they fear me imensly (i-men-sly:cool:in other words the NWO i as in not we men=puppets are sly)Trust me on that, ive known some of the best, some very good men(and i love them).....I have also met some of the best of the IMENSLY UGLY, They are good at what they do some can even fool an empath(cross training advised), this is not a secret but they would like you to thin it is "A good Apache tracker/scout/warrior can project and emotion (something like injecting code into your system to cause it to respond in an emotional way) This is what i was taught at 13, and watched my father cause a groupe of people to not see us(several times, and of course silence, and he would go out and pet a wild dear,,,,,its like causeing a person to think they feal a certain vibe(good or bad and all inbtween)or create a blind spot, it is this and what i can tell much more. I dont know if what me and my father had was from the training, bit of Apache, Kimball (name also translates to King god):eek:or a combonation of all, (by the way it is hard to feal the love of others when you dont feal love of self)..........Dune gives a good example of the how and why genetic manipulation of the Bloodlines(the mane differnce between the Rider of the White Horse and the anti-christ is Choice).....Imagine sitting in your room and getting a hair brain idea, hay i dont know about hydrocloric acid i shoul find out more......i relized a key! to cure to one of the most deadly long term and short term diseases,,,,well it was stolen and now being put though trials in Colorado

what i didnt mention before was all of the lost time, im trying to separate issues, like i say they have plans within plans within plans, Dune is a nice depiction:cool:in a way.

During my childhood alot of school i missed was because i cutclass , i would use my handicap if i got caught, i was a master at it especialy when i went to a very infamouse jr high-high school. When i cutclass i usualy went alone, the two places i away's went to were the city museum, and a place called the palace of fine arts, two great places at diffent parts of the city and they were free most of the time(weird now that i think of it)exept when i brought someone else. I dont remember much about the alone time i spent in the museum or palace (another oddity a place that studies everything and one that is a place of rule).....one thing i do remember was when i went there with others a little and i remember the Palace of Fine Arts was a hands on museum with all sort of exibits. The museum is one of the worlds finest, and the only memeorie i had there alone and was going there one day to sign up for computer classes(1983)in a back part of the museum.........Did i tell you i always remembered going there......

Other missing time, the ages of 9 to 17 i ran away alot more than most, the first time was 9 in hawia. Several times up to Washington St from California, at least twice to my step mom. and then therre was when i met my great uncle gotta go more on this later.............:cool:

[kimball13]

by the way one of the mind wiper's from 93 has bin coming by very drunk,,,,he may be here or not i wont tell,,,,,, he can't forgive myself,,,,,i dont know if my run in with him was chance or not 2003,but i did know he had something to do with what happend,,,,,and please relize some of the controlers are controled to,,,some programed and some deprogramed,,,,and some do these things out of some sick:mad:that should say it...........like i said a coverup,,,,and yes i remember the day i was given a choice, i did not have a clue as to who i was, all i knew was i had gifts and did somekindof hush hush:cool:they offerd me a choices one was based on lie's the other truth, When we enter a contract it is based on the product, services, etc. when any of these are falsely misrepresented (especialy on purpose)the contract becomes nullllllllllll and VOID!!!!!! Remember this if they trie to say just keap taking the pills and your pain/anxiety/psycotic fetures/depresion(never had depresion)/(wonder why they never said hallucination,,voices,),,,,,along with emphaticly reminding you that you signed the paper,ask them for it then procede to continue your own investigation. Remember they have rules (or there system will break without controles) to and when a contractual mind wipe occurs there is paper work somewhere (maybe an archive, or maybe not:)) (archive=archangel=arch hive) and if a either party asks for the agrement to be reveiwed and revoked due to deviation from contractual agreament it is reveiwed thourrouly (unless someone breaks a rule:cool:) and a decision is made.....and a steward (care-taker)is just a steward anyways, the steward doe's not own or even have to care for what they care for to do there job by today's standards.........And this is why either an Owner (True owner/God appointed can render any unlawful contract null and void,,, fire any employee's/stewards/partners or all charged and found to have Intentionaly created and or engaged in unlawful contract,,,,,,
(wow;)metalica's "The Four Horsemen" came on the radio)and im sure there is a copy of there list, because,and i believe random it is Music lounch cast plus)looking at what ive learned, expeinced, and proved I'VE EARNED THE GRACE to look into any posible unlawful contracts of these destructive natures... (any one know a better word to use than natures, i do not like associating Mother Earth whithin this context)and oppose these atrositie's and proved,,,,,,,,,,NWO'S NEAD'S TO SHUT DOWN THERE PLAN AND DISCONTINUE ANY PREVIOUSE CONTRACTS.


MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT EVEN IF YOU STAND ALONE, MY FATHER TAUGHT ME HOW TO DO IT.
AN OLD LAKOTA SAYING, A TRUE WARRIOR EATS LAST AND DIES FIRST,
this is what i learned from the oral teaching's' and experince ( DMX on the net radio now,,,PRAYER IV;)))))))
REMEMBER DIE'ING TO THE SELF.
FORGET DYING FOR YOUR COUNTRY, LET THE ENEMY DIE FOR THERE CAUSE AND LIVE,because if both you and your enemy die to the Trueself both you and your enemy stop being enemy's, and i believe in this 100%.

and like i said i am finding the words somehow i have very little formal education, and have writen very little on these things so this is all a first writting, so please forgive me for any misspunctuation, or misspelling's...And i can prove that i have an understanding of very high Authority.
IYHSLGAM
jmk

[kimball13]

IVE NOTICE AN INTRESTING STRING OF NUMBER'S FOR INSTANCE I JUST REALIZED THE LAST ONE IS #39 AS WELL AS BEING POSTED AT 9:33....#39 IS 3 MULTIPLIDE BY 13........IVE NOTICED OTHER # ANOMOLYS (OOPS ano,anonomys) molys, mystical herbs!!!!!)))



IYHSLGAM
jmk

[kimball13]

now i go back to the main forum bord and the #33 in the veiwers catches my eye;)

[kimball13]

hay you think that is some kind a message that someone, a group is going to get in touch with there Heart. in agreament to what i wrote about the NWOPLAN=no plan just tyrany, now plan tyrany, you see what they did they exchanged the last for the second yet the first remains the same.......so maybe that meens that haaaay the first letter remained the same and has complete authority legaly in such matter's.....:cool:someone is on our side and maybe even the most programed can heal:) Ya maybe there are some myths that are Gifts, in a real sense and Personage. (gifts=Grace in for the service)BY THE way did i mention in 93 a friend gave me the nickname grace, weird that is also the year of the mind wipe.....


IYHSLGAM
jmk

[cruise4]

Thanks for your honesty. I don't know what to make of what you've said but it was interesting. I think you are on the right forum ;)

[kimball13]

Hey guys; one thing that helped to accept the fact that someone had occastrated actions made to cause me to perform desired functions, and accept that i may have flashes of memorie's that confuse me,,,,,,,is a bible verse even the elect will be decieved.

i just rememberd that the one related to the house of Habsburg(according to him)with americanized name))))was there when the freind (dying of cancer,passed away)of mine that had the vision of me sitting on a white horse with a multitude of warriors.....The individual that was there was also the one that saw the marks, that is when he started to get realy weird, he did he swung a katana at my head to scare me,,,,(im sorry i dont run when it comes down to something i beelive in)))))))i did not mention that one time when i got a ride from a local whil i was in nebraska back from the main town tothe next cosest town to where i was going when i was let out i heard a sound that sounded like a mini blow gun,,,,a few minutes later my birth rigged defect acted up (pre-colostomy) and right in the gas station it was like my stomach completly emptied and it burned very badly instantly, i got to a phone, i was only about 15 miles from the house so i called knowing for a fact he knows all about what happends to me at times with my birth defect,,,,he refused saying he didnt want to waste the gas,,,,so i "told" him to go ask a good person (rainbow family) that lived on the property in a bus with his beutiful family, (rainbow family) freind jumped in his car, which by the way his registration was expired he had very little gas or money he came and got me. when i got home i found out what came out of my rigged birth defect rear end was blood mixed with something black. on that property was a nother family in the kabin i knew what they were, and the father obviosely had extensive compat training, and i would always catch them sending there childre to practice spying ont peple(they never noticed me though, right places right times,,,,,it has always bin that way for me with matters of life and death). It was before Habsburges rellative saw the marks that he told me he had joined a local Catholic church Knight order, he did have an in with the local Catholic church and had a frig magnet of the order, wish i could remember it,

[kimball13]

i just came across this after seeing a fellow forum member's beutiful artwork,,,,all i'will say for now is this is the first time ive seen this, how could i have missed it (guese i wasnt supposed to find it until now, or i just did not pay attention, maybe forgot learning of it im not sure here but after looking at her art work and then going to look at it some more, there is one with merlin type on horse with a staff that is very similar to the one my spiritual teacher around 94-95, this is also when i had a very intrestin experinces regarding the horses ability's,,,,,i have alway wondered why i have this medicene that comes out especialy when im doing something Spiritual, you see i have internal annomolie's as well being incontinent due to the incision to cut away the skin that blocked my anus being off by 5cm thus causeing incontinace,,,,anyway even though annomolie's when i had something of Spirit to do i dont stop and nothing stop's me,,,,,i was tested, many time's by the people that i used to learn with,,,,just about all of them did not understan how i could perform some of the things that i did,be so angy and,,,i always told them it's how God made me and i think i would be a very UGLY person if God didnt give me this birth defect maybe itsa thorn in the side.......Alot of people would come to the the fire and ask me when i would be giveing a teaching, my responce was alway's that depends on what the other's decide i will go ask them..... (by the way when i stepped away i asked richard why i wasnt made an revernd/elder, his answer you didnt ask, i kimball13 thought that was something you earned!!!!)...
I watched them be manipulated my people that would just come in and go right to leading cerimony, given a chanupa(sacred pipe), and given the authority to go back to where they live and perform cerimony,,,,it became aparant that all of the ones given minister papers did not go through the first step in learning to pour an inipi cerimony(sweat lodge),,,,,although in my case (never being made a minister) just as with martial art in a way, i was given authority to perform cerimonys within the first year, and open the vision quest camp's when for what ever reason all of the so called Elders (20 or more at times) where going to be a day late, the first time this happend Grandfather (real Elder) Sparrow Eagle (survivor of pearl harbor, he was blown of ship and had skin like a painted pony) came into the opening lodge and sat in the west (a place of healing), durring it Grandpa was being himself and enjoying a good hot inipi when one of "them" started to say cant you hear Grandpa he is having trouble he is old, you need to let him out,,,so i reasured her and other's that Grandpa is doing good Grandpa grew up in these ways he has sweated for over 70 years, "Grandpa" you ok, ya washtelo(yes good) ok he's fine. After the cerimony was over Grandpa on exiting inipi said very good inipi........So because i was disabled and the youngest as well as being very angry about certain thing's while walking with my heart,,,,,they used these three things to justify discounting the warnings, i am a Fire Cheif, honor given by the standing buffalo clan first carrier's of the Chanupa(white buffalo calfe woman), it is what God intended me to do, you elders know the teachings about the fire and what it is to be a fire keeper, i did not ask for the Honor of being Fire Cheif life dirrected me to learn this it was important and it feals right i feal like this is what God created me to do and i love it,,,,,as Head fire keeper i attended elders meetings with the same authourity of an elder (maybe more)at some of the elder meetings they had to make important decisions as well as decide who they were going to allow to become an elder,,,,at the last one i attended it was to decide who to allow to be an elder, my vote on all but one was no, when they asked i told them they havnt gone through the Fire and if this continue's it will all become perverse, especialy when someone pouring an inipi does not have the ability to give the teachings of the FIRE.....By this time i had alot of opposition and there justification every time they did not listen was, oh he's jeolouse because he is to angry, to young, he is gravly disabled, the other's used the justification they needed to gang up on me to help me, and show me where i was wrong......It was when i went to the Sundance held in Utah for All people, to see my teacher, when i arrive if found that there was a knew head tokala (warrior)as well as my adopted brother(the one that everyone was under) was going through the DT's(so they said)and kept in his tent hallucinateing and barely able to move, i was asked to help him so i did what im supposed to which icluded his trips to doo....i finaly arranged for me and my adopted sister to get him to the hostpital because the mixture of water and vodka was not working, he was addmited in ICU...I went back to the Sundance to do what i do,,,,I went in and helped as a east gate keeper, they had my addopted nephew(18years old at time)leading the dance, he wasnt even a Sundancer at the time,so he watched my cue's it was beutiful no one knew that he was looking to his uncle for guidance.....The something began to take place, a land owner came riding up on a four wheeler and was going to drive right through the east gate, so i stopped him (crossing the East Gate is tabboo during cerimony) that was the new head tokala from inside the circle yelled to me let him through, then the other Previose head tokala became involved with the banter and began to yell to the HT in the circle(also another no no only a Gate keeper or Fire keeper can do this) it was at this moment i saw the path some were choosing for the people and i could not be a part of it, i had to remove my protection from this Sundance and when this dance round is over i will no longer allow my protection to be used or abused i said a prayer and God did what he doe's, I saw a Giant with a Golden sword come out of the East and Cut the cord at the East gate removeing the Protection,,,at that very instance all heck broke loose up at the dance, as some of the peole went by me to find out what happend they said arnt you going to go see whats happening, i told them i know what is happening and i will not help there until they listen.....One of the dancer's ran out of the Sundance circle in the middle of a round (realy big taboo, when the circle is broken like this so is the protection)......My nephew was then being advised by the head tokala and alot of knew people, THEY TOOK THE DANCER THAT RAN OUT OF THE CIRCLE AND SAT HIM NEAR THE PORTA POTTY WITH A CIRCLE OF HUMAN FECES. There actions showed beyond a shadow of doubt, someone was intentionaly corupting the cerimony......Ya they have known for along time that i was given a gift not seen very often, as well as they coulnt understand that what they did to me to controle me wasnt working,,,,,,According to them everthing that has happend to me should make me hate, it backfired on them big time, i learned to love no matter what.......And look whats happening in China olympic's as well as Georgia/Russia,,,,,while writting what i have written i havnt watched the new's until last night,,,,actualy i havnt watche much new's for a while,,,,Holy Poop (the best fertilizer),,,,,hang in there, i will, this is way to real for me to continue to denie anylonger and try to dispove,,,,and by the way an intresting thing the guy that did the mind wipe has a verysevere head injurie he survide from when he was 23 and is missing part of his brain,,,,,he keeps asking why people still love him ,,,he is doing worse and worse every day i keep trying to tell him love yourself and you will feal love of other's change your ways and let your heart heal. i tell him maybe the reason why some love him is they want him to see his chance to sober up and stop using his gifts for as he PUTS IT TAXING PEOPLE,,,evertime he says this i just tell him ya and without representation and going by Laws is illegle you better return there stuff because i dont care what law it is whether it be courtroom or carmic and judging by the condition your in your being stripped of any taxation authority you fooled yourself into thinking you had, and now everything you unjustly taxed will be returned.... And if ya dont sober up the luckiest youll be is wettbrain, i keap telling your showing signs and it doesnt look good for you.

rhianna, the celtic goddess who rides a white horse.

my Grandparents ;;;;;;;Croate, Austrian, Scotish,Irish, English, Apache, Tungashila. all of the eropeon happen to live in very important places in history and have a long historie........;)


'This simply confirms that we live in a commercial age,' he added. 'Yet somehow I think the White Horse will be around long after Big Brother is forgotten.'


Big Brother's logo 'defiles' White Horse
May 04 2003: Mark Townsend
Channel 4 has been accused of committing 'brandalism' by daubing a Big Brother logo beside the Uffington White Horse. By Mark Townsend.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003/may/04/channel4.bigbrother

[kimball13]

CIA releases extensive files, 750,000 pages identifiying the Vast spy net-work oof military and civiliean operatives,,,,they were soldiers,actors, historians, lawyers, athletes,professors, reporters. Like i said in previose posts, i have earned the right, to demand change.:cool:

[kimball13]

my arterial annomolys;
no inferior venacava-colateral arteries make up the differnce-g-force increase
enlarged renal vein-provideing more bloood to filtration-this was my first incling why
enlarged azigos-more blood to the brain-this was my first incling why
roto scolios-twisted spine:confused:i did have DR Lear look at my films he said :confused: what i k13 believe they were inhibiters from 98 surgerie possibly earler
by the way the iferior vena cava brings the blood back up from your legs i gues you could say ive got a bit of a differnt flow:cool:maybe these are the reasons why when i took Aikido 6mths and 6mnths Hungar (shoulin)i was in the dojo/khun every day sometimes two times, within the first few day's in both school's i was instructed to train with the Sempi uperclassmenwoman in both schools all other students were instructed to never spar with the more advanced? just had to clarifie:cool:

[kimball13]

by the way ive got medical records all over the country safe in hospitals as well as some copie's at home, the last hospital told me the films would be safer in my posesion;):cool:and if ya know any nurses give them a big thank you!!!!!!!;)

[kimball13]

So if every society that has reached a spiritual,survival, hunter, astromomy, agraculture, geometrical, archutcural,art,spiritual warfare,writing,context,interpition,war,golden age,plaugues,renasonce,war,coverup,another atempt at it all the same way,war,industrial,technogical,social engineering, war brought to a new hieght,spiritual warfare, how do i put it, every civilization has underwent an Antlantean catastrofie/rebirth never in balance because we want to hold onto FEAR that lives in tyrany, false evedence appearing real/faced everything and ran, and keep the FEAR that live's within COURAGE faced everything and recoverd......This is why we need to let go of all type's of fear,,, Do not hold onto the bath and throw the baby out with the bath water, take the baby out of the water dry him of wrap a towel aroung him then if your back is not in to much pain reach in the tub and pull the plugg.;)

[kimball13]

i shoul make it clear i am closely related through a Great Aunt that begged to move from the reservation with my great(even though he planned on building her a beutiful house) but she saw what was happening to the people she was the dirrect desendant of two very respected cheifs of what is known as the souix outside of omaha, one cheif a very powerful spiritual warrior the other a great teacher, one lead his people and they did not heed his warning to not take any spoils or desticrate the enemy(only a few survived,and with photo's They had all they needed to turn Predator on the Souix,shortly after is when crazy horse died, ive ben to that spot and i experinced his last Prayer i looked at my brother and said i dont know why but it's almost like Crazy Horse is singing dont let this happend again,I guese in the ways of the tribe i am the great grandson of Sitting Bull(when two familie's marie they become one...)The other Great Grandfather taught Rosevelt in helping to star the boy scouts etc. (a couple of years into my learning of the red road is when we I learned this and my mom relized who the Elder that would visit every Christmas and tell stories of Roosevelt and the boy scout's amonf other things, as well as being i think the first native american congrasman, his statue sits outside of Omaha WarEagle. On the Yankton reservation at a Sundance i was recovering from another bothche surgerie, i was walking by an Elder and he pointed out a Butterflie following me and said to me do you know who that is, i said no, who, it is Sitting Bull he is watching over you. that is when i relized why his hat always had a butterflie and a liitle about the medicine.....I must tell you this also the first time i was in any type of traditional inipi was at a recoverie center on a river. Then when i had a freind in the hospital he was ready, he fought cancer to skin and bones, so i knew some people that were attending a vision quest camp on the lost coast, and wanted to pray in there way about this... When Richard walked in the room our eyes met and he said i know you, shorly after he started calling me merlin because that is the closest representation he had. My freind who was in his mid 60s passed on in a good way, when i prayed for him in the Lodge/inipi Richard says he has passed in a good way, i go back home and when i saw his oldest daughter she told me you are his savior you gave him hope/faith, i undrstood as she did there was something diffent,,,,I havnt bin to the Abys as it says Christ will,,,,,we got a call and my Grandfather was in the hospital the Preist read him his last rite's and told my Grand mother was told by the preist my granfather didnt complete the stations of the cross he is not going to heaven when my grandmother told me this is said i know what to to (i know those staitons of the cross are impossible to complete EVEN FOR THE POPE, sound fomilar)i felt it in my Heart even thogh i had the pipe stone i was in the proces of making the Chanupa i would carrie from pipe stone given me by a good Yurok brother White Heart. So i roled up the kiniknik (sacred tobaco) sang the four directions song mixing my breath with Great Spirits breath(our wills becoming interdependant)i then laid down in my bed and went into deep meditation my left hand(mark of angel of sun/fire) held yet i could not see who it was only up to the elbow i looked to my right and there was my grandfather we took each others hand and were spiritid over just plain no light black(Abys)to the other side this is where my Grandfather was welcomed and taken in......Then it was like i had wings of the Eagle, i was back, it was shortly after me and my Grandmother were speaking over the phone(i had just bin ordained a deacon)and i asked her when the last time she read the bible her responce was never (the Catholic Church where she lived instructed the congegation not to read the bible they would not understand it)something told reminded me something she said about how she follows the spiritual instruction of the ordained, so i asked her to read the Bible for herself(just open it anywhere, and read it just like you do any other book of knowledge,then aply it spiritualy)the next time we spoke she told me what the Bible says is alot diffent than she thought and she enjoyed it.(she also stopped worring about Grandpa, and we both new in our Hearts if you cant listen to a family member giving good sound Spiritual advise and heal, how can you listen to God and follow Christs example, first know what he lived for then why he died....She now knows Grandpa is in Heaven, she has taken my advise about thi-chi, and then on her own started YOGA on her own without any preist telling her what asspect of God is going to help her. She stil atends churches sometimes but i think she likes to try differnt catotonic churchs(na im sure there are good godly men that are clergy,as well as congregations,but we alll know everone has a catotonic church in the wood pile).......:cool:

[darketernal]

Kimball, I started reading over your thread, and it is going to take me some time to digest it all and give you my take on everything. I've got some thoughts brewing on some of what you've said, but I want to take in your posts in their entirety before I get into a serious conversation.

The first thing I'm willing to throw out is that what family traditions are handed out to the lower level members of families of royal ancestory is often a smokescreen to keep them inline with certain thoughts and traditions without going through the trouble of initiating them into knowledge. The line of bullshit fed to me, by some members of my family (us being decended from Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalen's sexual union) is one example, which I later found out as I was initiated into deeper esoteric understandings and programing is nothing more than a mind control lie. The lie is different at every step in the pyramid.

[kimball13]

Kimball, I started reading over your thread, and it is going to take me some time to digest it all and give you my take on everything. I've got some thoughts brewing on some of what you've said, but I want to take in your posts in their entirety before I get into a serious conversation.

The first thing I'm willing to throw out is that what family traditions are handed out to the lower level members of families of royal ancestory is often a smokescreen to keep them inline with certain thoughts and traditions without going through the trouble of initiating them into knowledge. The line of bullshit fed to me, by some members of my family (us being decended from Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalen's sexual union) is one example, which I later found out as I was initiated into deeper esoteric understandings and programing is nothing more than a mind control lie. The lie is different at every step in the pyramid.


pretty much, i also think that posibly for every one if they some how tap into it you can tap into a cellular/genetic/hereditary memorie, imagine the beuty the world would contain, as wel as the posibility's, if people are allowed to express ther highest qualitys, and not only know the mistakes taken, but also the the solution, with all of the remnant civilizations left on this plane and all of the high art forms contained in not only ther physical memeorie make up and also Spiritual memorie. We (wemewe)will all know there is a God and none of us are it, as well as all of us are part of It, like the highest artform.

i also believe we all have to learn to highten our Empathic ability and stop payin attention at how fragile we think we are and remember we all can Feal what some call God, an ability we all experince yet we dare not assume we can sense God's Emotions (or if you like the collective intelgence, 100 monkey) the first time i sensed this was at a gathering, the second a Sundance,a third Sundance the one that i knew the protection needed to be removed.
i also believe that they (NWO,tyrant, and Malice types)imprint achytyple experinces to produce a desired responce to stimulie (sti-mul-lie).
Yet i also believe that if an archytiple experince do to a natural occurence will possibley produce a more positve imprint, in my case after coming across the Story of Daggobert an the similaritie's between myself and Daggobert's handicap son, as well as the wound my father recieved, i will try to make this breif. at about the age of 14 my father was hit above the left eye with a tork bar by his best freind, while his hands where in his pocket, in front of me, i thought in an instant the razor sharp buck knife on the front seat, or the first aid kit underneath the seat, i jumped out of the back of the car, #*$ got away into his house imediatly, i got the first aid kit and packe the 3/8ths inch around hole down to the skull, i held his unconciouse head in my lap aplying pressure for about 45mins until the ambulance gothere. there was drama to the so called freind came back out pointing to the blood and telling my soon to be ex-freinds(therechoicenotmine),his sons to clean the blood up as soon as possible and me telling him if he steps any closer i will kill him i had the buck knife in my hand somehow. The emergency room only held him for an hour(he was unconcience for about 35 mins in my lap with a hole in his head!)anyways he lasted at home for 3 days and finnaly when he coulnt sit on the toilet he was weak enough to force him to the hospital we went to the closest hospital they said drive him to Bremerton, there they did a cat scan they airlifted him within 20 mins of getting there, to seatle. Me and my step mom took the car on the fairy and went to the hospital and stayed there for 2 mnths there is alot more my hands are gettin weird it might be beocause i under went hypnosis 3 mths after. so until later thank you all for doing your part for Humanity.....
and thank you dark eternal is it for your time and effort to contibute. and if nothing else i hope some of my observations are helpful my hands are vibrating like crazy:confused:

[kimball13]

the syncronicity is going of the hook i just got done expaining how they used some thing they fabricated in 1991(somebody posted GNR use your illusion)

[kimball13]

1991 GNR use your illusions,,,,found it on another thread i was wondering why the cd have live era 87-93 i had the sneeky suspicions i was doing something 87 got back from six mnth run away from foster hom to see mey dad (he was still alive yet severly dissabled) it toook me 3 mnths to get there im wondering why everythin i do only last 3 months

91-same year they misdiagnosed me as scitzophrenic, go figure they sure did us there illusion on alot of us. but still like gnr, gues ill have to just relize that the message i heard on a song was right, dam now ive gotta listen to it.......yesterdays got me through alot of realy tough time it alway told me ok 16 years from 91:cool:

[kimball13]

for the record nwo infiltrated ubenownst to usa to such an extent as to manipulate out policy and human resorces at all levels, alot of there recruits did not even know who they were covert for,,,,ever see the colin ferral movie The Recruit: good example on what happend to alot of people that thought they were following there primary orders masked by a mundane cover job, the thing is the thought to be cover job was there real job and the covert one was for an unkown outside source maskarading as a agency.......
the cia tested this out on the Army (the project name had something to do with bannanas)The cia manage to create ther own Army project completly autonomous without even going in under cover through boot camp or other wise they just dressed up moved into the empty buildings on base and went to work, no questions were asked because there was no paper trail the CO rarly walked by, it was completly cia funded so the accounting department never asked hay wheres all this money going, so you put people with the same training aruond one another dressed alike, doing what apears for all outwards purpose the same thing accept for where the info goe's and if needed proper nudge's here and there to adjust social engeneering.Oh boy were they pissed when they found out what the spooks did:cool: so even if alot of it was just dreams they contained facual images of which when i typed in the search engine specifics i was taken right there, as well as being in a used book store and finding the right book. Robert Hansen sure messed thing up and was caught by hiss buddy and best freind fellow opus dei memeber Freely, hansens double dealings caused the fbi to recall all eropeon ci operatives, hansen was head of fbi ci, imagine the havok he reaked for years.......


here is a concept im going to throw out there with a few facts, Indigo children have bin studied by the universicty of california and found to exist in 2002 90% of the children being born are Indigo.......Now imagine this the secret found in renelachatoe (bad speelling)where the secrets of the Grail were found. Now consider the secret he found may not have bin the Grail, but how to controle the grails. In legend all over the world wether it be here in America or in china, Africa there are legends of grail kings these grail kings were alway put in charge of there other kings of there people, maybe these grails somehow whether you belive in God or evolution, i dont care, i have experinced both on some level and i have medical proof if needed (age 28 got chicken pocks i week later completly recoverd)So youve got legends of hero kings that form the function of uniteing there fellow kings to solve a problem, keep the council of kings on the good path to benifit everyone includeing nature, nock some sense in there fellow kings if needed, builders of kingdoms and destroyers of nations. Now imagine if someone figured out a secret to controle (give a new look at MONARCH,MK-ULTRA)these types and all the veriations,remember the birth rate of Indigo's 90%. So the some of the other kings under the grail kings used these phycologica controle techniques(very cruel) to controle the grail kingsqueens, now known as indigo, Indigo children are often missdiagnosed as being hyperactive, autistic, and a # of things. One quility found in most is they treat what they love to do, that some people consider work, just as a hobby to not only do we studie but we incorporate it in our hobby's our conversations when you meet us you will relize that this is the same person no matter what enviroment you put us in,,,alot of people dont even know they are indigo, we are conditioned to act like the status quo and the status qou is not longer the majority and they are scared, some indigos have an ability to walk into a corrupt/unhealthy enviroment and not leave until they have helped heal the people and right it no matter what the personel cost, ya i can see why some would fear us.......So they made alot of us slaves to do things others could do we just were gifted in other ways but they had to get us to believe in what we did or it was a big F*^ch you heck na. To my knowledge i was the only one that went through the type of extensive programing,,,,,,,so much so even people in the KNOW would comment i cant believe they let you go when they see what they want they get it(hey Granpa up there i dont know what your envolvment was but i still love ya).......a little background i was in a conservation corps around 18-19, i exeld,our academy was on an army reserve base, i was crew one, when we(the only ones that did)doubled timed to the mess hall we began to get standing ovations from the Army, just before graduation a bunch of guys dropped some lsd i did not, the next day in the advanced first aid all the guys frying gothe highest score's the only one straight that scored higher was me, i was then taken to our crew one CO he sat me down and asked me if id like to stay at the academy he had noticed that even thogh i had one of the most debilitating dissabiltys i still was top of the class, i thought about it and i wanted to go and have a little fun and id had enough of the academy and needed a break so they gave me SanBernidino stationed on Patton State hsptl grounds in the backe,,,,the most strict one and known for it,,,,we had a mnth long black out when we got there then we were issued security clearance badges, 3 mnth there and i was called into the co's office he tells me your being promoted to crew leader and tool specialist(cool back to back promotions, and in the by the book no less than three mnths) but here's what you have to do, thye wanted me to go into the hosptal for a month then 1/2 day for anther month(loosing 1 1/2 mnth pay and what ever insurence doesnt cover),,,,i said let me get you straight you just gave me the first back to back promotions in the least possible time and your asking my resingnation for what, i know that before last year you were suspended for revers prejusism and hadnt worke here for years, what i do on my days off drinking a beer at the pizza parlor is my bussines......little did i know they were right no booze, he still tried to set me up and pull some sick im going to get you back for some body else that hurt me bs.......The strang thing is my records of being there were lost in 1997-98 up until just a couple of years ago.......I went into the conservation core because after a year of good service, you can go straight into the millitay as a cheif warrant officer, i wanted to be a pj para jumper, the special forces sar search and rescue, the appeal of getting in there quike not paying any attention to anything but getting to the guys you watch over as quike as possible moving like lightning, doing what ever it takes to stop the blood and save the very life that was sacraficed for his brothers and giving back.....they had other plans,,,,,,,after leacing the consev corps, i realized they were trying to pigion hole me, they wanted me dark and deap as a corpsman, i dont know if they already used me but i have my suspicions, i had dreams of opperations(later to come out in books published after the early 90s)i have trace the earlyleyst to 13 aroung the time with my father(family outing,maybe),,,,,,,by the way waco was caused by one wacko,although he was a spec-op that did repell onto the roof with one other, one of them was a sicko a fucking very light colored hair caklying sounding like the joker idiot, he pulled out a bunch incinary laughfing his ass of thowing them around, Koresh was the only target(Koresh=covert,dangerouse,has unothorized bio-weopons), the other guy stayed focused and on target hopeing everone got out, and procceded to a comunications room near a kitchen and there in the doorway shot Koresh in the head(just a dream i had in meditation), that is why although i dont agree with how they did it i can understand, something went teribly wrong one of them went nuts and killed them all, which one, which one did it huh, you fuckers, you let a whole house of women and children die to cover up your screwup you blocked them in becaus you thought they might get out and say hay momie i saw a man sneaking around and thowing fire cans making it burn,,,ya smooth move ya guys could have saved alot of women, children, men, but no instead you let them die and then o-boy how we going to figure out wich one did it, you know now you prosecuted the wrong one and maybe if they wernt blocke in the little girl in the hall running away from the bad man towards the other one, and passed him down the hall to safty(if the doors and shit wernt being blocked and shot at)ya youd of had to explain why, and maybe a little of how but, it would have bin a lot less painful and shameful, but you guys just let them walk right in and take over and now look, explaining that you trained a guy, he goes roogue and has something very deadly the only solution offerd and possible is takeing him out or he willl kill alot of innocents, no one else there new what he had, they were inocent folowers, he used his training to create a cult front, (do something that atracts attention,and act a little around your true intentions(screening) with a cultish twist and at worst, people just chalk you up as being a new age chrisian-whatever diffent groupe that may just be misunderstood, they are missunderstood, and the one guy that knows the purpose for it is the one running the show insulate by a groupe of people that make no sense so that when you get close enough you suffer from at the very least sub-conseince cognitvive dissonance whitch gives him a little leave way to slipup evernow and then(just my impresion after all i had the dreams before the reasearch):cool:

[kimball13]

i came across a gathering a couple of weeks ago that is next year, the Hopi and Apache are hosting a gathering of all indigionouse people of mother earth everyone, it is calll Return of the Ancestors.....i thought it would by good to go.......theres a few people id like to see there that i know that are going to teach, i hope they are following there true heart i havnt seen them for a while and word through the grape vine is someof them went a bit askew, but hay we all do at time'.:)

[kimball13]

for one any name i mention are refernce to Authors that ether come to the same conclusion or have factual evedence, the other's are references to the familys they are from that are spoken of throut the internet as well as litriture.so here it goes
it struck me right between the eyes when someone i knew a former stealth co-pilot says to my freind i dont like being around him i know what he is, this is what lead me to look into the info allowed to be published as factual or a derivitve of by known people that where in projects of all types. The next time was when a counselor says to me your life sounds like ENDER WIGGINS IN ENDERS GAME.:eek:

so after enders game and holy poop! came a few more. especialy when i found out it was required reading in marine corps intel.

a book called "The Trojan Warrior Project" Richard Strozi.

"first earth battalion"Jim Channon, of whom ive spoke to.

Col. John Alexander.

and heres a funny but a little true; Men Who Stare at Goats; Jim Ronson

Rogue Warrior-both the fictional and non-fictional, founder of Seal team Six and red cell.

Delta Force; Chargen Charlie Beckwith

when i began reading these bbook i relized something happend either i was some how tapping into something all of my life or i was just smart enough to develope some things without training or teaching, or i was trained without my knowing and my dreams were reality peeking its head,,,,,or the worst one i was something like the pretender(i developed alot of this shit being led to believe it was to prevent this fooooching the pooch crud)

[kimball13]

by the way i heard that one of there reasons in justifieing what they continued to do to me was, you cant use the same brain to fix itself, they were leavin out that my possible part in the whole sceem of things was to prevent these things, maybe thats why the song Yesterday's because i have a memorie being in an apartment and that song was on and i came up with the bright idea i"ll use this as a time stamp and whenever i here it i will remember it ok it will be just fine if i just make it 16 years and what evers happend i will know what to do when the time come's,16 years from 91-2007+1 to calm down enough, as they say dont give up 5 minutes before the miricle, wow i almost became a social worker last year talking about working for a hypocricie. no wonder they made it so i wouldnt go into thos feilds i might have unbenownst to myself started to de-program people. As they say a teache never teaches all of there secrets until the student is ready and a student that is ready will never turn it on his master.:)

[kimball13]

other real life occurances some of which can be verified by records of e-mail to Monaco, Malta, The pretender Prince Michael of albany, Tracy Twyman, and personaly going to two Catholic churches.

all of which were presipitated by, a plane ride to current Pres, secret meetings between the Vatacan and the Templars (by the way there was a news bite about secret meetings) one guy on the run wanted by interpol, and the last took down info pertaining to who the Pendragon Line was.

All of this+stepping outside of the box=Royalty, maybe you dont know the authority and influence a person has with the titles that were stolen frome me (just as it says in the Bible God instructs us that this will happen)(check out freemans theorie or is it, they tell us what they are going to do)and that is what i realized what the sear saw about takeing the Sword from my Father by doing that i will regain my crown, maybe my rightful titles, but im sure as it is obviose i have bin up agianst a very capable opponent, i have had no resorces or formal education or training to my knowledge, but i am positive that i have had a great deal of help by people that knew someithing was up.:cool:ya it would put me into a position to shut down NWO(what they tell recruits is nwo is No way out, just a funny)with very little opposition if any. And if the NWO was going to acomplish there goals they needed to controle certain power structures or at least gently nudge and if they couldnt make sure they controled mi when there time schedule was in place they needed me somewhere being bled both pcycicly,emotoinaly , physicaly and they took notes and used what they wanted and twited it to there own perverted desire's.

[kimball13]

1. Magna Carta 1215/25
2. Treason Act 1351
3. Act of Supremacy 1558
4. Declaration of Rights 1689
5. Bill of Rights 1689
6. Treason and Felony Act 1848

just a list of something i came across to prove there motive, thye had bin chipping away for a very long time, leading up to 1307 alot had moved, in 1307 it was clear there had bin an almost complete change in direction for a few. The worst King that i am related to also is Edward Longshanks as well as andy your going to love this Robert the Bruce, both direct through i believe the female line's, no offence from any longshanks fans but if he was any thing like he was potriad ick, and as for Bruce i learned never take the easy way out and leave a freind and allie on the battle feild even if you plan on cleaning up (sorry to be so harsh but he is my ancestor and he did turn his back on Braveheart, or at least that is the story told)A.D. 1280,,,,,,looks like alot of pppoooopppooo has bin lost since around A.D. 1000 and by 1300s they managed to put replacements, then comes the black plaugue wich by the way they chalked up as being a curse for what they did to the Templars.

[kimball13]

Russia, war
China, scandle,oppesion,tyrany
start of posts eerrie,,,at least for me it is and putins background, his being called a Russian Czar as well as being named man of the year. Georgia making coments of historical nature. Georgia leader making coment we are surroung by a great evil it is all over, they will make it. Who knows why putin hasnt just rolled on in? last night in the news there was also a storie of a dead Sasquatch being found(two bigfoot hunters had) today they will anounce if it is actualy Bigfoot. I havnt made it clear but when bigfoot left in my vision he went into the east (heaven).

[kimball13]

Georgia's president left american law school 1995 led ("The Rose Revalution")

and have you noticed the Crest's and such item's in the background of every picture, he is also asking for Prayer's, he said we are surrounded by evil, they are everywhere".

[mahabaratara]

I am a little pushed for time now and this thread has grown...

:)

But just one question what can you tell me from your experience of the Vedic Empire...?

I mean I look at it from many many angles...

I believe that there is a Native American story that originally thye came from East...

I look at many South American/European etc cultures and its like even after all this time the "fingerprints" are still there...

[kimball13]

I am a little pushed for time now and this thread has grown...

:)

But just one question what can you tell me from your experience of the Vedic Empire...?

I mean I look at it from many many angles...

I believe that there is a Native American story that originally thye came from East...

I look at many South American/European etc cultures and its like even after all this time the "fingerprints" are still there...


cool i will check it out, i havnt looked into the Vedic, intreating?

There are a few: tribes of the Lost Coast,Singingfeather= A feather floated down and landed into a little pool, of muddy water a breez picked up, and soon it was spining so fast it started to sing as it sang it turned to pool of muddy water into the first man Singingfeather:)

Lakota/soux=They went underground in the area of the Great lakes, they surfaced in the great plains. which by the way the soux and apache had a teritorial war, the agressors on both occasions, the second attack the apache decided they wernt going to let it slide, the apache left a trail of body's all the way from NM area to Canada, then stopped and went back south. there are extensive underground caves, they have mapped out 15%((((85 miles) of one set, based on the air flow in and out, the caves remain 55 degrees year around,.

There is a story/prophecy= When a good leader passes on or anyone that is a lets say protecter of the people, cheifs,warriors,medicine people,etc. They go into the west to prepare for this time. The west is symbolized by The Thunder Being sustainer and destroyer of life, from ignorance to knowledge, the imposible becoming possible, this is the direction of the keepers of the Fire,(guese you could also use a christian term sons of thunder),it is also where the life giving rain comes from, heyokas serve the thunder beings,(heyokas, !contrary!, clowns, good tricksters teach you not to take your self so seriousely(heyoks need more hugs),it is said a heyoka can change the "weather",(personal note, ive known and become freinds with a few),THE PHONEX.


i just heard the story of Gilgemesh and Inkidu, about how inkidu was created to straiten Gilgimesh out, then Inkidu was killed. ive also heard inkidu compared to bigfoot, and that because of a evolutionary inhibitor in bigfoots genes put there the species decided to die of and that is why there are so few, and that one there mane genetic enhancements was survival. They had reached the limit and because the inhibitor it became time for them to cross over.(not a very cool thought) especialy considering the news about a bigfoot being killed and it is being tested today.

ive heard from some the belief that most tribes here come from China, and tribes like the apache and hopi come from Japanese, who knows maybe everyone came here along time ago long enough for most clear traces(or maybe clearer) to wear down into some similar customs and culture's, the apache and hopi are alot diffent than most other tribes while at the same time one has developed the art of war and hunting to a high art, the hope have come to a great high peace. intreating that these two tribes would be hosting a gathering called "Return of the Ancestors" Northern Arizona - April 18-28, 2009

[kimball13]

The Atharvaveda Parishishtas Pariśiṣṭas (appendices) state that priests of the Mauda and Jalada schools of the Atharvaveda should be avoided, or strict discipline should be followed as per the rules and regulations set by the Atharva Veda. It is even stated that women associated with Atharvan may suffer from abortions if pregnant women remain while the chants for warfare are pronounced.


yes there is a similarity, during my time dragging the skulls(to let go of the past, so that you may carie the burden of the people,giving you the rite to carrie the staff of a leader) a woman i was becomeing close to was on a hill some distance away without my knowlege watching, my mother was on a nother hill (it was that time for both), when i broke the young ladie fell to her knee's and completed her issue at once, and well about my mom i dont know its my ma ya know. some desrcibe it like tinfoil in the micro wave it not a bad thing the tinfoil, its just not supposed to be mixed, or what i like to say its like a lodge without its cover's, you put all the stone's in there and you wont accomplish it.

as far as pregnant women at cerimony it is encouraged....Case in point, i had the honor to pour an emergency sweat for a freind of mine, she had bin to the hospital and admited three times, she was sufferng from malnurishment and almost miscarring(certain types of sage will cause premature birth), so i took her in, we prayed and sang, after the fourth round was over and we sang the thankyou song she ran into the house and cleaned out the frig, didnt have any mor problems and now has a healthy boy. most of my astrological chart is war. When someone is practicing shita wakan they keap there distance, or get real chumy(they start thinking oboy achallenge) Intreasting that both are types of spiritual warfare yet oppisite with common thread. Sitting Bull practiced something similar to prepare for war he drug buffalo skulls with the american flag painted on them.

just wanted to ad a bit more background.

[kimball13]

I am a little pushed for time now and this thread has grown...

:)

But just one question what can you tell me from your experience of the Vedic Empire...?

I mean I look at it from many many angles...

I believe that there is a Native American story that originally thye came from East...

I look at many South American/European etc cultures and its like even after all this time the "fingerprints" are still there...

"O God, Thou art the giver of life, the remover of pain and sorrow, the bestower of happiness; O Creator of the Universe, may we receive Thy supreme sin-destroying light; may Thou guide our intellect in the right direction."

i knew i came to the right place thank you for being you, and earler i was trying to explain a concept i have about how it is more impotant to remember the context instead of the exact wording, and this is why indigeonouse tribes(people that have oral tradition, everyone) live at a much more harmoniose level with there surroundings and suffer from cognitve dissonance like the rest of us because we forgot the and the other person on the thead said oh just like remembering the "spirit" of a thing, this brings up the towere of babel we forgot how to speak to each other we now need to learn to speak to the spirit and realize we all originate from the same place, aho mytok uya oyasin.

i read a couple of Vedic prayers and they look just like the Prayers of a Sundancer and followers of the red road.

when a sundancer specificly perices the chest the mane purpose for this is to peirce his darkness and let the light of the Great Spirit in. The Sun is not what is praye to it is taught the Sun is a dirrect reflection of God. The hunting of the tree is a specific cerimony includein virgins makeing the first cut of the ax inthe tree, the teaching of the tree is one of resurection, we carrie it without touching the ground to be resurected in the Sundance circle.

[kimball13]

I POSTED THIS IN ANOTHER THREAD AND THOUGHT IT WAS RELAVENT HERE TO.;)
well i did some personel research and here is what i found:

to begin with my fathers family is known for there intelegence,memory,and showing people how special they realy are by showing them we all come from good familys. During the founding of America's first 13 colonie's, douring a time that there was peace between the Native american's, my grandmother told me a family story. We were also asked and paid to move to towns that where having touble and asked to keep the peace(we made sure everyone got along, we were not police).

case in point my grandfather died over 13 years ago and my father 10.

my first name means feast or famine (so to speak)Yahweh is God
The Lord is God
Jehovah is God. Strong - willed.
my middle name means=bright sea circle people, a multy utility horse for work,war, play

last= to begin with the earliest origen date's back to Kain=Kain=King=Kim,Bhaal=Ball=god,King=god. both Kain and Bhaal are broken down to fertilitie and death or life and death the cycle of life.

then i came across a legend that my ancestor had a goddess of war fall in love with him her name was something like Symble Cyble ill have fo look that up.
Kain was also known as one of the first kings
i read in a book kimball was a templer term that ment spiritual integrity.(wish ida bought that book)
Kimballs are the Pendragons

when i was in utah during a sundance i saw the name all over the place, i found out cousins came out there, Smith's mother was also a Kimball, well i went to there archive, they looked at my id and sent someone with me to make sure i didnot hack into any clasified info, i found out at any given moment i am directly within 8 cousins 1/2 billion there are 13 familys do the math=6.5 billion:eek:

just going from the beginging oof this country to about 1699 took 49 pages of computer printout small print.
explanes why my grandfather was the President of the First Templer lodge America and after his passing, "it was taken over by millitary egotists comprised of retired millitary and active"(from the book the Templar Papers) in 1997
woops almost got of track and started to explane part of what has happend behind the seens, you see after my granfathers passing my father i believ was murderd, i over herd one of them we should have got the sun first none of us knew hed be bigger. the man that said that is the same man that i refused a $50,000 contract from some stranger to hit his son along with another contract for the same amount to break someone out of prison without any one knowing!

Whats in a name actualy alot it is up to you to find a good path to us what is in a name to help your fellow man.

and by the way without the Lakota knowing, or the spirits(ya right), or myself i recieved two names of native american origen and THEY MEEN THE SAME THING AS DOE'S MY ASTROLOGY.:eek:

NOW THAT WERE HERE;1997, templar takeover. i go in for month of extensive testing and come out text book perfect for; special agent in charge, millitary officer,politition,religiose leader,protective services,top 2% in Usa abstract reasoning,,,,,go in for experimental surgerie(17)(guese they wanted to know what 17?;))device is not properly acitvated and caused extreme amounts of pain and infection with fevers reaching 106 for hours while i was head of security for a pilot shcool called American Indian Wildernes School,father die's 98, break up with fiance(she was coursed,manipulated while i was away at the shool),,,,before i moved to stlouse she went back and was living there when she got of the plane her father drove her to her sisters whe she walked up to the door there was a camera flash she turned around and it was a couple of suits in a marqee she called me and told me you were right i told her they wont do anything they just wanted to make sure of something. I was taking Aikido and imediatly took to it, so much so a Sempe who was rumord to be special forces could not catch by surpise on the mat even when i was occupied sparring with another fellow. major car accident, while on a job interveiw for a courior sevice,the owner of the service was driving.
Stay in a mental ward, when i walked in a woman came up to me saying a word over and over again, i thought it was the lakota word for thank you but since i found it may also be the name of a dead spec-op. in that hospital they found out how dangerouse prozac can be for those around me.

good thing im a crab to balance out the rest of my zodiac:eek:what happends if you put mother instincs with the instinc of a warrior;)

look into yourself and learn.

if midocondrial dna is the same in everyone because it is never changeing from the woman,,,,,dam forgot the mans contrabution but any way his is only passed down trough the men, explains why the mans name is the one passed down.;)

[kimball13]

thought this would be good to put up since im telling all, and add to the explanaition of the duality of my life, or mayby its all just an oxy-moron,



well i must say heres a funny storie, when i used to drink i was having a tear in my beer, when a fine woman came up to me slapped her hand on the barr and said oh you just think yor to good for me, as she walke away i realized she made eye contact with me and because i was shy i missed it, and because of my looks she thought me to be one of those that thinks can have any woman. and boy was i feeling lonely just wanted to sit and talk to a woman.

if you look at the old paintings of the Kings of scotland i look someting like that,just a little more tan, a bit more of a pretty boy, with brown hair and when the sun hits it you can see the red tint(all natural)my ex-fiance wanted to send a nude photo of me to her mother because i am perfectly perpotioned and her mother was from france and was an artist and thought i would be a perfect nuse model. when i was younger i looked like a cross between jonny dep and richard greco with a twist of arnold swartznager(with the right sunglasses people would say a sub-comapct terminator without the steroids)when i am at ease somewould say i look intimidateing i have to remember to smile,when i smile nobody stays sad to long, and i was once comapre to Omar Sharife(said i had that exotic look with something else)by a modeling agency. just what others have said, oh ya my eye's are a bit diffent when i go inoto battle mode the brown turns to black, and even when ive laid in a hospital bed for a monthe without eating i only lost 5lbs as well as retaining most of my muscle to i hope that is enough of a description as i dont have a way to put a picture up for now
and if you want to do anything other than be oooooogled at it sucks to be good looking because people are to busy either wondering if your going to sleap with there wife or how to get down your pants or ya get the guy that thinks he has a right to seek revenge for what he sufferd as a boy because he didnt get the girl, people get over it, and by the way ....then they find out ive gone though more humiliation than anyone they have ever heard of then they treat me like a fucing pet, to be treated like a novelty. but ive gotten over it because ive lived in the last two places for the longest i ever had. I have never lived in the same place for over a 1 year until i moved to the very same house that had the grafity with the time stamp(mentioned earler)

[kimball13]

think about the concept of Spiritualitydivided=science and religion together creat spirituality, religion is only an expresion culture is thereflection of the religion the well being of the individual is the reflection of the culture the charecter is the reflection of the individual spirituality is the reflection of charecter spirituality is the reflection of Truth.
later i will get into how this important to take what is known as energy vamps and people that put of a vibe ((huh) VV=66=demon, according to freemans research). And how this can be turned into empath and emotional healer (wonder what E E is ) anywho.

then this can be take farther,if you notice a funny phenomon, if you take the EM in empath and emotional and flip it around with love any way itsa winwin EM=WE=ME=EMPATHY
TO EMOTE realesing energy, PATHpretty self explanitory it can aslo be the real meaning of go with the flow, electricity has a current, a river has a current.

emote is the expelling of emotional energy.
emaphy is recieving
Bear medicine= the process of consumeing the sickness wether it is of spiritual nature or physical and procesing it to the Mother Earth for her to transform back into life.

ive heard of way to take one disruptive energy to heal another, i just dont agree with this, because although your diluteing the mudy water it is still muddy, it is better to take the extra effort and walk up the creak to the sping and get a drink of fresh life giving water.
and if ya dont have a paddle thats why i mentioned walk,because when your down stream it is called sh!t creak, and if your walking you can pick some berry's, and you also can then say your walking your talk becouse you will be drinking good water which helps on a long walk because walking and talking with disentary is the. anyway getting of topic but hay:eek:Light Up and let yourself Shine, forget about jony the movie the shinning has nothing to do with this. the latest funny i got naaa its to gross i will say this much it has something to do with a pissin contest only realy funy and tru the realy funy part is it about me and im kinof the punch line and it has to do with something that hits the fan, i had a heyoka freind of mine roling the other day with that one he must of laghed for two days.
Every good warrio has a heyoka freind, and every heyoka is a warrior in his own right.
A winkta is one that kills the spirit, or to some one with two spirits, and wintas are consider to be great medicing people, as the heyoka is important to the warrior, so is the winktay(or as some like it when i call them twinkie's)important to the warrior, winktay's give a warrrior a secret name known only to the worrior and himself/herself, when the men are out they stay behind performing womanly duty's and if there is trouble they protect the women and children, did i mention a Winktay is GAY;)

every firekeeper is a warrior but every warrior is not a fire keeper, every warrior carry's heyoka medicine (to some degree)to assist in battle.

part of a firkeepers duty is if someone is about to cut the cord from the fire to the lodge and step though the abys a lost sole may climb up into him, so a fire keeper will take an arrow and shoot him to keep him from crossing the line to save his soul, and preseve the integrity of the inipi. This got my teacher grandfather in alot of trouble when a drunk caltleman rode through the cerimony in a very direspectuful way an broke the cord, he got shot then, the the settlers came and got him and cause trouble,,,,,but if the cord is crossed by mistake there are purification cerimony's that can be done and you wont have an arrow shirt. the same protocall is demanded moreso at the Sundance at the east gate because it is from the east that the risen warrior left to so it is the east he will return from and it is every firekeepers love and honor to protect this;)

[kimball13]

i cant believe i left this out but in 2000 while i lived in Tulsa OK, i stepped out the front door of the retruraunt i waited tables for when an elderly couple pulled up and asked me for info about our conference room rates for a big dinner, they then told me that to become a shriner now you dont have to be 33 they are recruting everyone, and by the way be careful your are the only one here.:cool:

[kimball13]

LoL! One of my brothers had a friend who I only knew on fleeting moments…I knew him just well enough to say high and bye too.

Anyhow! I was always very shy so I didn’t start dating until my late teens then after a couple of failed romances I eventually met the guy that I’m married to now.

However! Sometime during the initial stages of the courtship with the other-half I happened to be walking down a street with a good friend of mine when I was approached by the brother’s old friend who suddenly called me an “Albatross” then he walked off without an explanation.

Folk are strange at times…:D

that sqwat boy(yep i said it and we all know what happens when we sqwat in the woods) any way what ive noticed those people are people that do not have any internaly generated energy and doesnt have the brains to hoook up to the sorce, and what those people do is piss you of so they can get your energy, dont let anyone take your power, this is very important, i learned the hard way,

also an acupuntureist told me i have the highest amount of life force energy hes ever seen, and alot of people pissed me of alot of the time, some would play a yo yo yo game, they would piss me of enought to get me hot, then they would run before i could give my response or clarification, i had a girl freind that did thi resently as well as a jesuit trained i thind freind,,,,,,i noticed how they would get extremly energized lose weight heal you name it, some of these jackasses have developed this to such a level they could make you drowsy,,,,,,,,,,have you ever noticed when you are having a stimulatening conversation with a freind you havnt seen in a while and felt so energized the room was buzzing, that is because you are not playing any domination subbmision games, it is a mutual enjoyable flow, unless ya got a freind that wont shut up and let you answer a quistion, a good rule of thumb is only speak as much as you listed and find out how much the people around you do the same andthen gently suggest this, try not to worry about oneupmanship see it for what it is and if you can change it do so, remember its oneupmanship if it is desinged to impress a third party, is a false statment, to make you feel better, to feel part of, to putsome one down and it shows that they dont have there own MOJO. cheat.
its not oneupmanship when its so people know the whole you, and what your potential may be, when it is designed to contribute and enhance a conversation,make someone feel better, and when needed i dont have to cheat i can do it without preping the feild and padding the ref because ya can't cheat if you can't stop me(what ever that may be this is a much better confidance builder when bully's try to steal the MOJO;)and hey its taken me a while to learn if they dont have an explanation or a punch line it mean they dont care about anyone than them selves(and not to compare anyone to a cerial killer but were all adults here that is a cerial killers MO, (huh thats funy MOJO goood, MO bad)

[nimlyn]

Actually I don’t have any interest in playing power games with folk…They either accept me as I am or they don’t…:)

I’m quiet by nature so if someone talks over me then I shut up and I listen and I listen and I listen…They soon get bored with me…I don’t care because I have nothing to prove…;)

[nimlyn]

logic walls tools of the illuminate NWO.

any way just thought id clue ya in on something, i havent writen in years, and before that everthing was either on the fly or learnd so well id dreamabout it......and when i did write it would piss me of becaus then it would end up in a folder in my closet and remind me that the info i saw in a book or on the news and piss me of, like the anthrax how it was spread cutaniosly as well as inililotory, that weirded theem out when i showe the what proces did that, cut there response time abit, and then nody even nw abau la water alost shut down (saved them who knows how long getting it going again:cool:) and everytime the ahole aske my answer was the same all i could figure is im a natural.:cool: ya i did my part as a responsible citezen for my neghbors and the burocracy has fucd me ever since and why becaus i said i would not kill for anyone no man will tell me who to kill if i must protect then nothing stops me i know this, God has proven it to me time and again, he also proved if i am not protecting, then i am doing it for a selfish reason, either for myself or someone else, and a selfish reason will kill my people and if my people die then i die, and if it is this way, i choose to protect because then i can have selflove without shame, and i can love my brother without fear because we are part of the same hoop.;)

Yup! I can relate to some of that…My dreams have pointed me towards some unusual information and I have even created half a novel based on those dreams…Only a personal story though and not for others to view but it was something that I needed to write in order to incorporate some of the things that I didn’t understand back in the early 1990’s about space / time travel etc.

When I get a chance I do go back to my story for a quick read and it actually cheers me up with the whacky characters that I created which is even stranger as I don’t like reading as a rule.

Heart warming stuff though! :)

However In regards to killing folk, that is a disconcerting revelation to read about and something that folk should not even contemplate as a possibility unless there’s a bloody good reason for doing so…As soppy as this sounds, life is precious and should never be abused…Look after it as long as nature allows.

[kimball13]

vajra

[kimball13]

;)A MUSE:D just thought id lightenthings up and gues what iive bin thinking hay ive bin amussed since oh the past week. So here it goes A MUSED, ever get sprinkled by farie dust, and get mused, in communion with a MUSE, so MUSED would be a blessing, thenhere we go, A MUSED is a Blessing, sounds like AMUST. And here is why i say this some tyrants act amused towrds there feeble enemy's, Tyrants only know how to be condesending, as i said they ACTAMUSED:eek:




:DI:D
:DAM:D
:DAMUSED:D

[kimball13]

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Kalki_Avatar/id/1682
http://www.shareintl.org/

so going by just what is found in there www; share intl experiencefestival

so is my judgement correct here did they share intlegence at an experience festival. I was wondering how they got there info, it may also be safe to say that the knowledge and experince these guys have was all memorized and practicedd.

I have reveiwed the storie's of Kalki and Maitreya, i have gone though the 5 wisdoms and completed. My place of birth as well as linage. The Vajra. What i have written. The very day i singed up as well as the name of forum. I may not know the exact words, i do know the teachings i have aplied them in my life and have not created karmic deficit . And where do i live CALI. Am i surrounded by my enemy, where was i born, who was my father? My birthday according to some traditions put a birthday at conception, as being 9mnths before leaving womb, which by the way is Kalki's birthday in this carnation. My desision to go to battle wa at 32, i also at the time jokengly decide i would create a new knighthood(the knights of the order of the west, or sons of thunder, when translated from english to lakota and back again)remember the guy i mentioned that is drunk(he was there,if he remembers)when i started to go of big time, fire in southern cali, death of yasir, 8,000 lightning strikes june 20 birht day 28 is Bodhi in seven days, the winter of my move to where i am was the worst flooding on record,hurricane katrina, tsunami,fires spontaniosly bursting into flames in trash cans all around the city june 2004 as i was bleading to death. what i left out of one of my visions was i was to protect and teach a group of woman and children dressed in white and after he left i was reunited with my people a bit more but after gleening info on Maitrya/Kalki i know. What i tried to say to people is the info in the bible is incomplete and knew that the Rider on the White Horse was much more. My beliefs in reincanation developed on my own match with, during my childhood i noteced earthquakes around my birhtday as well as a world war, Iraqs independance day june 28, my mother to this day insists 29 and kept it that way until i was around 10-11. the teachings of a chanupa for spiritual warfare are the same as the Vajra, birht mark on thigh, twisted spine=spiral/kundalini in a physical aparation, Hungar, Aikido, the hardest form and the softest, one is iron the other water, one is 5 animals the other harmony, Healer, warrior,orator,ability to understand into context, and the eyes. oh and how did i know that over a period of time the rightfull kings were replaced by false kings and prophets. Did i say when i spent 3 days at the fire i confronted my greatest fear and conqued it (the fear of becoming a false prophet, i have tracked since and hunted this subject, knowing what had happend i trudged with great pain and heartache knowing the importants yet trying to find out how i playe a role, the whole time the only scrap that i had was the name kimball, experince, understanding what had happend i just had to put it into context and analyze while the whole time wanting someone to just tell me what i already knew. As a boy i had a monkey instead of a bear, i used to dream of having a monkey as my closest confidant(still dont know what the monkey is about)the day i signed up was the Georgian invasion(i didnt take a look until several days passed, as well as you may have noticed how many posts since.
kalki and Maitreya, Destroyer and Teacher, to protect and teach

In Hinduism, Kalki (Devanagari: कल्कि; also rendered by some as Kalkin and Kalaki) is the tenth and final Maha Avatara (great incarnation) of Vishnu who will come to end the present age of darkness and destruction known as Kali Yuga. The name Kalki is often a metaphor for eternity or time. The origins of the name probably lie in the Sanskrit word "kalka" which refers to dirt, filth, or foulness and hence denotes the "destroyer of foulness," "destroyer of confusion," "destroyer of darkness," or "annihilator of ignorance."[1] Other similar and divergent interpretations based on varying etymological derivations from Sanskrit - including one simply meaning "White Horse" - have been made.[2]

In the Buddhist Kalachakra tradition, some 25 rulers of the legendary Shambhala Kingdom have the title of Kalki, Kulika or Kali-king.[3]

Maitreya's coming will occur after the teachings of the current Gautama Buddha, the Dharma, are no longer taught and are completely forgotten. Maitreya is predicted to attain Bodhi in seven days (which is the minimum period), by virtue of his many lives of preparation for Buddha-hood (similar to those reported in the Jataka stories of Shakyamuni Buddha).

Maitreya's coming is characterized by a number of physical events. The oceans are predicted to decrease in size, allowing Maitreya to traverse them freely. The event will also allow the unveiling of the "true" dharma to the people, in turn allowing the construction of a new world. The coming also signifies the end of the middle time in which humans currently reside (characterized as a low point of human existence between the Gautama Buddha and Maitreya.)
This is what kept me from exporeing buhdism is when i asked what about when Buhda says i am not the light there will be another after me, i would get no answer.

imediatly after my prayer on the 20 a prayer i had bin saying for 6 years brought me to my final strength, i told God either show me and let me know who i am if this be the Truth i nead a clear sign, one that i cannot denie, my mind has procesed all it can i need a clearer understanding i need to know what to do and i need your Protection Father show me dammit, and if not show me who or just bring me home NOW, you know this is to disgusting for me to take, i dont want to go down a bad path please God just take me or show me, prepare me, and protect me and my own. 8,000 lightning strikes.


and how do i know the truth in true spituality, i know the how and why someone has corupted there way. When i see a way i can see the why's and know how to keep them.
almost left out the city of 10,000 Buddhas, just outside of town.


Fire Cheif=Kalki
all of my names=Kalki
life experince=Kalki
wisdom=Kalki

IYHSLGSA=in your humble service Lord God Almighty

WANAGL=we are not a glum lot.
and may you trudge the road to happy destiny.

Did i mention i bought a book when i was 32 called, Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism. It downed on me today that i might have a book somewhere about some of this somewhere, i finnaly opend it today for the first time 17-08-08. And so far the few sentances that ive read i know by the first few phrases where it goes(i say goes instead of means for a reason)

the book i have, and am going to look at is,based on two seties of lectures by Trungpa Rinpoche in 1970-71, conception to birth 1969-1970, and youll never gues, it is based on the classical sense of Buddhism as in the Heart of Buddhism
it is a Shambhala Dragon editions
Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism

the funny thing here is in 98 i thought of starting a book called
Spiritual Matters

and then there is the posts of mine thoughout this forum that contain info.
since the storm i have very quikly healed my thought proces as well as it seems i have trouble containing things, parables and the likes as well as expalantions of harmful trains of thought, Wong fei hung is a very fine example of what i wanted to be, a healer and protector, and after that lightning its not a want anymore it is a have to be, an is to be.

and not last in 93 i was called by a few Grace and they thought of my apartment was like the movie the Road House some have seen me thow a man across the room from across the room, as well as heal people. And i saw someone today that i know has had acces to my posts, and now he knows i know, i have watched some individuals act as if they are guilty of a great crime and there sweating big time. One in particular is when i moved here 3 years ago he put his comapany in the hands of his sons and wife to run, and took the last three years of, and durring this time it has gone in the toilet but whatever he is up to he has to come and go any time, durring the fires he went north for a couple of weeks. I could go on. Alot of the local agencys includeing the courts that i have had a great deal of difficulty with are heavly associated to The city of 10,000 buddha's, The Vatacan, if they are not for me they are against me and both have proven against. the beast and the whore. it is written in both texts, and written in my experince. I have meditated on this since 32 it is written on me. 32 is the age Kalki begins battle, 32 is when i began to know the war i am in, 32 i declared war on behalf of my people, i was alone with God and realized that everone just wanted to continue to corrupt and use religion for there own sick desires, twisting truths to the cofusion of others to the point red was being called blue, and if we take things so far out of context, we begin to live by the logic of the computer, instead of the logic of the heart and mind.:cool:
oh ya oboma's emergency landing.

So in the context of all of this i have to take and accept that I Am Kalki, if i do not there will be many more just like the two websites claiming to be me, and for a number of years iv seen the evidence on national tv with my work being pulicezied, how do i know this because after somebodys tour with me was done the subjects i worked on would go sub-mainstream to mainsteam, as well as after 911 i consulted with 29palms and had success and my appologie's i thought that they could not be so stupid to take a half formulated idea and put it to work,,,,,ya want to know how HOMELAND became so quikly as well as a few other things,,,,,,,,at the age of 9 i saved my first life a man drowning, and many more times never ever being in the paper or formaly being thanked????????took me awhile to realize that the odds of never having a news blurb are very slim, ,,,,when i wrote a mission statment and vision statement the council of the SSS mision (soup shelter spirit) accepted my drafts word for word, when a copy came back to me i was told they all pooled there ideas together and came up with it but when my copy came and i read it, it was nearly word for word what i wrote. So here i am.

[kimball13]

intreasting since i read about the vedic religion, the clouds have rolled in and filled the sky. It was sometime before jun 20 since we have even had a little wisp of a cloud. ;) So it is threefold, i must believe in God's plan, God has definaltye shown his belief in me, God's will, my will, and the peoples will:) The Hoop of Life!

[kimball13]

Hosea;4

[devin]

http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/Rise%20and%20Fall%20of%20King%20Arthur.html

[kimball13]

http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/Rise%20and%20Fall%20of%20King%20Arthur.html


thank you,,,,i have had to battle Arthur my whole life,,,,and what some inteded for him to be.......For now i wil say i have experinced, the lessons of all,,,,Maybe that is why my nickname durring my time at the fire was Merlyn, i to have had many dreams of this woman, i trie to find her in everywoman(not sexual, but hay at times im a guy, and begin courtship), i made a demanded just as Lancelot did, do not harm her or i will destroy you, let her heal her heart with the soothing salve offerd by the convent. Since 32 they have made no progress, after every time i told them your of track and you better backup, they would then make a feeble attempt to appear as if they are in compliance, after each non-compliance they were chastised folowed by an event, there own experts kept trying to figure out how i was doing what if was doing, my anwere was i can tell you all of my ways but you would turn them into secrets, it is time for full disclosure, it is the Truth that does for me, what i myself and no other can do. No more separation, my love will not be confined to a convent, Arthur must know the truth. I must know the truth and stop being jeolouse of myself, i must stop fearing myself, i must discontinue trying to put my love in saftey and bring her to the people,,,She is Greatly needed. I will no longer seek a soulution that allows corruption to live, and if you have read about Kalki, you will know that in the past when i have said evil smells i was tellingpeople who i was without even knowing.:eek:

I Declared war at 32 and will never backdown, no more negotiations or treaty's, no deals, just as Lincoln had the south surrender everything, so must they. They handicapped me in the begining of this time, to level the playing feild, as if that was possible, i know the real game, i know the Truth, i have no nead to be enhanced by hgh, steroids, education, peices of paper, and i have no nead for fearful followers, i am not a leader that leads by fear, i lead by example, i lead by correction, i lead with love, i lead with fellowship, I teach the why's, so the how's do not become corupted, in this way the intention of Truth can thrive. The Train started to role and ive got a full head of steam, it is not the caboose that killsya. I am that Train, the people are the Train cars, the caboose is the Future. Did i mention God is the Engineer.

So ya they handicapped me, they wanted a fair playing feild, God said ok handicapp him, it will make victory complete, when he rises you will have created the very thing that will destroy your falsehoods:cool: By doing what they did, God has used this to ensure that i am incapable of doing the same to other's. If you nead more details on some of this read my posts, especialy in the threads about How important are looks? But who am i to say, just take a look, as well as explore what alot of these fine people have poste,,,,,,,,,,,another funny thing is, is David's forum the white horse, Devadatta, when i saw this name o-boy!:D and please remember that if you think you know, the reality of it, all you have done is pull of the side of the road of life to take a piss(think about it), seek the next step, and if you find it then pursue, if you have not continue, if told to take another look put beliefs on a shelf as nothing more than a template, and seek the next step as a truth instead, of our limited understanding, it is like being in a dessert, after everydune is crossed there is another, and as long as we have Water, we can continue to search, our way out of the spiritual desert ,we find ourselves in, and knowing that if we keep our water supplies uncorrupted we will find fellowship(city on the hill, paradise, heaven and earth as one, no longer separate)

MOTHERS do not lie for your sons, by doing this they learn that God will lie for them, God does not lie, there is another called the father of lie's, it is very subbtle and sooner or later the son begins to follow the father of lie's because he is taught that love is lyining for one another.............Do not lie for your sons, by doing this you are lying to them, It is exactly the same for Father's and Daughter's.

IYHSLGA Kalki;)

[kimball13]

i have let go of the fear o what i offer being used for malice or ill intent.....I have never asked for any monetary/political/influencial compensation nor for favor of mans laws or promises, for my spirtitual work or my counter terrorism intel analasy/ C i . Sayning that,, it did don on me someone may choose to try to addapt what i offer to advance ther own agenda, this is ill advised for yourself and the people you will hurt. This is a Karmic principle, God and the people will provide what i need to accomplish my task, therefore we all can live this way, freedom of information, freedom to truly be free, how does the CIA say and the truth shall set you free.;)........

[kimball13]

Knights of the Order of Wakinyan

Est. 2002

[kimball13]

exponentially:p

Fibonacci:D

[kimball13]

:cool:A D.C comic depiction, a myth or is it.;)

Damage;(7) 1994
for more insight about what has happend,:cool:

[kimball13]

Marvel front cover and back #1 and #2 beavis and butthead 1994
cover=twin demons

[kimball13]

woops i figure stimuli and faith was a given.

stimuli
idea
belief
faith
Truth


the most important thing to remember on your path the Truth is , your faith is built on your beliefs , your belief, your idea, your stimuli. Any disrortion with the stimuli causes a ripple/distortion pooling within the faith leading to further distortion of the trueths.

now
Truth
trueths
faiths
beliefs
ideas
and the answer/quistion is 42, look for what was left out, and you may solve it;)

first i presented 4,then 5, then 6, and here are the 5 wisdoms in One creating the 6th, do the math or whatever you like it will always come out the same Truth;)the math you want to use is 7 is the combination of the 6th guese i better practice, ever notice a doctor that takes an oath to do no harm practices medicine.
the four is in another post by the way and it is idea belief faith Truth

[kimball13]

Pakistanis people dancing in the streets:cool:

[kimball13]

Red Hand of Ulster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

here is part of what ive dealt with. "According to another myth, Ulster had at one time no rightful heir. Because of this it was agreed that a boat race should take place (possibly in Strangford Lough) and that "whosoever's hand is the first to touch the shore of Ulster, so shall he be made the king".

"One potential king so loved and desired Ulster that, upon seeing that he was losing the race, he cut off his hand and threw it to the shore — thus winning the kingship. The hand is most likely red to represent the fact that it would have been covered in blood."

so in other words am i to understand that im dealing with a people known for cutting of a portion of there own or is it just one individual? Yep it does appear as if

"The Red Hand of Ulster appears on the former Government of Northern Ireland banner 1953-72,"

it was 1972 in tennesee , when i drank hydrocloric acid, i pucked it up imedietly, my mother had to take me to some local drunk doctor, he checked me out and told my mother to just make me drink a quart of buttermilk a day for a year and half, i cant stand buttermilk and i havnt drank much milk, since.
making sense:cool:

[kimball13]

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William III & II
Prince of Orange; Stadtholder of Holland and Zealand, Utrecht, Guelders and Overijssel; King of England and Ireland; King of Scots; (more...)

William III by Sir Godfrey Kneller
Reign 13 February 1689–8 March 1702
Coronation 11 April 1689 (England only)
Predecessor William II of Orange
James VII & II
Successor William IV of Orange
Anne of England
Co-monarch Mary II of England
Full name
William Henry of Orange
DetailTitles and styles
HM The King
HH The Prince of Orange, Count of Nassau
Royal house House of Orange-Nassau
Father William II, Prince of Orange
Mother Mary, Princess Royal
Born 14 November 1650(1650-11-14)
[OS: 4 November 1650][1]
Binnenhof, The Hague
Died 8 March 1702 (aged 51)
Kensington Palace, London
Burial Westminster Abbey, London
William III (14 November 1650 – 8 March 1702)[1] was the Prince of Orange from birth, Stadtholder of the main provinces of the Dutch Republic from 1672 onwards, and King of England, Scotland, and Ireland from 1689. Born a member of the House of Orange-Nassau, William III won the English, Scottish and Irish crowns following the Glorious Revolution, in which his uncle and father-in-law, James II, was deposed. In England, Scotland and Ireland, William ruled jointly with his wife, Mary II, until her death on 28 December 1694. He reigned as 'William II' in Scotland, and 'William III' in England and Ireland.[2] Often he is referred to as William of Orange, a name he shared with many other historical figures. In Northern Ireland and Scotland, he is often informally known as "King Billy".

A Protestant, William participated in several wars against the powerful Catholic King Louis XIV of France in coalition with Protestant and Catholic powers in Europe. Many Protestants heralded him as a champion of their faith. Largely due to that reputation, William was able to take the British crowns where many were fearful of a revival of Catholicism under James. William's victory over James II at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 is commemorated by the Orange Institution in Northern Ireland to this day. His reign marked the beginning of the transition from the personal rule of the Stuarts to the more Parliament-centered rule of the House of Hanover.
The two that tortured me in 1993, something to do with the Orange and the red hand of ulster, they got me then and they may have had a hand in the current affairs we currently find ourselves in. this is very important..........

like i said in my thread look into the Dc comic Damage issue 7:D and marvel mtv beavis and buthead 1 and 2, check the back cover it shows the twins doing what they do. A freind of mines twin may (set up for fall)have bin murderd for this also, they divide and conquer in a very sick way. One alway spoke of time travel and the other about technology, one loki, the other king of ornge, both misdirected me the one of ornge said the Danes, the red hand man, uses the homeless for alot of his manipulation mo, he likes to make deals, his catch phrase is hay check this out, he claims to be an enviroimentalist. the ornge like dungeons and dragons type game's, he looks forward to a furture of seeing humanity in perpetual war, his catch phrase is hay now. both are highly trained in manipulation and fancy martial arts, they dazzle people. oh yah the ornge infiltrated a advisorie postion for the local masons, the red hand a infiltrated or was allowed to be on state wide work force investment board.

[kimball13]

http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/carry_the_pipe.html


this is incredible:eek:


this link to a totaly separate person, this is what id did around 2002-2003 i threw the Chanupa i carried into the Fire so that i would learn to carrie in my heart where it would be safe, the pipe ston stone was given me by a freind of mine Four Winds:)when i was shapening the stone i wanted to shape it into an eagle, insteak it blew up, then as i began to shape it my grandfather passed away, when i was done i realizesed i neaded the claw marks of the bear(Did i mention my Lakota Sister i from a Bear Hunting Clan, wife to derect decendant of Standing Buffalo, the First Pipe Carrier, One of the Lakota Cheif), the lakota pipe are larger and somehow i ended up with a small one Like the Yankton from which Two of my Grandgathers are from (through cousins). There was a Bear claw mark on each side, it was as if something led me to mark it as a spiritual battle, i remember circles of 30-50 that the little pipe that could did.(im talking pinky to the first nukle deap and round, and now you know why i prefere fibanocci when the chips are down, as wella s it is a building block of life and once it gets going :eek:maybe thats why i get along with the bear dancers.

[kimball13]

http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/letter.html

[kimball13]

i came acros the tread the 72 name of God and that was it,,,,,,step nine and the world wide result of the none completion of this step, step 9 is the amends step and if not taken a person or societty is likey to be drunk soon:D

step 9 made direct amends to such people wherever possible , exept when to do so would injure them or others.

the purpose of this step is to realease the tie to a Charcter defect of fear on both the one making the amends but also the amendie, and great healing takes place when someone sincerly applogieses with no excuses,,,,,yet to be honest i have always felt that the steps could go farther than this, :)

maybe it is the completion of the lessons of the 72 names of God that is the 144,000=9

[kimball13]

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kircher-Diagram_of_the_names_of_God.png#filelinks


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=466380&posted=1#post466380

[kimball13]

Names of God - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[kimball13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En-hedu-ana

Sin (Akkadian: Sîn, Suen; Sumerian:Nanna) is a Sumerian god in Mesopotamian mythology. He is the god of the moon and the son of Enlil and Ninlil. His sacred city was Ur. The name Nanna is Sumerian for "illuminator."

my greatgrandfather on my mothers side was known a Nana, saying this i now know why my Greatgrandmother was so devoute as well as having a little buggha next to her holy mary with baby jesus stautue. it is said by some thay part of my family someone had an abiltity do control demons, if my greatgraddad controled them asn diead early(then i can destroy them)maybe i will be able to correct an ancestors, SIN, destroy's the bad-karma/sinner=cause of bad-karma-sinning, destroyer of Lies and Confusion:cool:

in Dune the Qistzatsadurrout Paul Mohadeeb bing the decendant of Harkonean, then there is Luke Skywalker, and etc. aand the new movie Wanted

[kimball13]

this confrontation to beining with was last night, with red hand, i kept telling him to stop lying, i told him i read him like a book when i met him again in 2002, i didnt know the details but i knew the universe will alway show me the next track in the dirt of what i HUNT. He made a grave mistake by trying to distract me for the last week, as he sat on my couch sipping on his high gravity beer, and bragging about his family and who they are, he wanted me to see his family crest(big mistake lie boy), i typed away while interigating him allowing him to lead the conversation i just wated, typed, listend to for his ego points, and telling him the whole time what i have ben doing since the day i met him, did i mention when he was 23 around1989 he survieve a head wound that removed part of his frontal lobe, and he is realy fuckin smart. The real funny part is durring the confrontation i was telling him exactly what he was doing and how he was doing it (he one of those double speak people that tells you what there doing in riddles) and every time he made a outthe side of the neck threat/promise i asked him is that what it was and if so ya might rethink it, i then said to him you dont know who i am do you,,,,ya know that he didnt even know that the info he was using to dazzle people was mine, he even mention2002-2003, story changed many times, but i got it.and he is also a taikwando expert that likes to fight he beats up 280 lbers a quike little guy that can hit and he brags about it intimidateing everone and telling the world he does what he want and no one can do anything about it......After he said that in my apartment (i told him not in my house, you have assumed ownership of something not yours and perverted it, how dare you assume athority in a house you are a guest in) that is when i moved in an instant i was looking down on him with my foot on his and my speed and energey put him in the couch with my nose 1/4 inch from his(hungar is a hard infighting form, close up,)without touching him then he also noticed where my hands where and relaized how close he was, and he saw why i told him they Called me Grace at one time, but he went back to his vomit, so i did exactly the same thing exactly the way i said i do it, after that he started to bs again i told him to stop because i can tolerate alot until someone assumes ownership of the temple i am steward over, especialy if he is destroying it again. he was also struck down a couple months ago with a sesure on the train tracks(like i always say if ya see alight turn around get of the tracks and let the train do its job)he even told everone God was warning him. So he had to leave and no longer come ovver to lie about whanting recoverie to feel safe around me, becaus he knows as well as the people that introduced me to him, when i am around people are protected. and he saw for himself and survived as all before have.......did i mention he and the prince of ornge are about the same age 1966, and some say 66 is a demons number. He also mumbled i thought they killed you, i kept telling him to read the comic book DAMAGE DC comics, and he will have an idea of why im still alive.:eek::D,,,he also thought i was irratated or agro, the thing is the only emotion i feel durring encounters like this is pure focus, i feal like what a Vajra must feal like when it is doing God's work.

enough for now, just wanted to inform you what ive bin doing while typing:cool:

[kimball13]

the veil separateing the light of cause and affect is being replaced:cool: by the veil of truth and effect.;)

[kimball13]

Pendragon Sword of his Father!
http://burnsfamilystudios.com/movies/pendragon/

http://burnsfamilystudios.com/movies/pendragon/artos.html

[kimball13]

my anxiety levels are going through the roof, i dont know maybe they slipped me lsd again, i find it difficult to go out in public,,,,,,,i think two of the people ive had problems with are very bad people, i dont know any more, they both are very strange, one of them reminds me of tom cruse in that movei with jamie fox(im fox),,,,,,especialy with his hair comment.......i just dont know what is real anymore, i dont like religiose fanatics very much because they let religiose ferver run there life. maybe i should go back on meds (not!!!)i will just deal with it because they make me dull as well as i am in the proces of geting into detailed info and i canot do this on meds so i am willeing to be a bit delusional, i would rather be delusional than have a disasotative disorder d.i.d (multiple),,,,,,,:eek::cool::mad:;)so i will continue on my journey to find out if i am Kalki, and i will continue to protect all, i will only protect, no matter who it is, bloodshed is apporable to me but if someone is hurting another in a violent manner i have no problem in Martial Law,,,,,,,unlike my advesarie they have no remorse for anything they have done, and that is why they stay drunk not having the capasity or constiturion to get healthy and confess, or did they already:Dnow what does KALKI do :confused::eek::cool: no more confusion i will cut though the subconsiance like a vajra,,,,,i dont like kenpo or taikwando unlike my advesreis,,, i prefer Aikido and Hungar two art forms desinged to train the mind and body for spiritual purposes so as to be like a church offering santuarie to all that choose to be of the humanrace, what the aleins do is not of my concern unless they come and speak to me in person i dont whant to here all of this allien poopppoooo because it confuses me and brings back acid flashbacks(interesting and fun though flashbacs cause congnitve dissonance.)

[kimball13]

This is very important, for now no details as time doesnot allow.
i want to make it very clear that the white people spoken of are people of fear, this all tie's into what is known as the celestine prophecy's, the thing is the prophecy's are not on any scroll, they are contained within my dna and experince, i guese to some im known as Hummingbird, a new heaven and earth are on the way becomeing One for us all to enjoy includeing the caucasian race:eek::cool::D:)


to start with the definition of white in this context refers to fear. definition d), wanting in color' ashen' pale' wan' as, lips white with fear. (G. & C. Meriam Co. publishers springfeild, Mass USA 1942 dictionary)

next jamies sams and david carson bear and comapny santa fe , new mexico, illistrated by angela c, werneke (published 1988)
Medicine Cards, book;
page 313, #44, "Humingbird, here is the linne that is important,Hummingbird is associated with the Gost Shirt religion, which taught that a certain dance done properly would bring about the return of the animals and the, white people would disappear."


this is why they kept trying to make me become hatefull, all of them did, everyone wanted me to take up there cause and when i didnot they treated me as an enemy and something to be despised.


ya know the funny thing is maybe some racists helped along the way, as well as people from all races of the Earth,

the fortune teller in feather falls when i was in elemetry school around 1979 told me i would have 4 wives and 12 children= 4 races/directions= 12 tribes this is also a teaching in the Lakota inipi.......

so no racist crap anymore from anyone, if ya want ta stick ta your own you are more than welcome, but please if you do this do it out of want to be with your people, not out of hate of another culture,,,,,,,the original people spoken of are all of us re-unified just as we were before the Tower of Babbel.......Nw we all know why they wanted to contain me and controle me because i am the only one that can figure out how to re-unifie humanity, and alot of other people wanted the credit but they just could not do it, so in a nut shell i will no longer be held in a cage in the background as somekindof slave to be used like :mad: here ya go to anyone that oposes free will and my takeing my birthright ..!.. if ya dont understand that, i will spell it out ,its the BIG FU U:eek:

i will not be relagaded to a backstage position, obviosly alot of these great planners cant seam to get it right without my presence, and my current living conditions as well as the compensation obviosly owed me, , should i name a few people that took credit for my analysis and answers, shall i tell you the mistakes made because they acted on info that they didnot hear correctly(anthrax insodents) Im no longer pissed, im focused and determined to save my people, maybe that is why when i go into any neghbor hood i can wald right through with no problem, how many little tan boys can walk through hunters point, even at midnight, ya ive bin around starting at a very young age............................................... ..............................By the way Damage is probley just a cover, Superman may be more approptiate, seing as the death of superman occured to cloud the real storie, that is why the current storie line of superman rarly includes the death storie line,,,,,,,Can we say Superman Returns, just imagine the possibley copyrights ifringments of alot of current movies,comics, video games, ooops gues i should just say it overnight i could controle most of the worlds wealth based on alot of things based on my life and intelectual property, ownership of a few millitary componants and tech.

[kimball13]

ya think it odd that Iraq's independnts day is on my Birthday:cool:

[kimball13]

my computer and electronic went down for a bit, the lamp on the west wall fried the tv fried and my internet conection went down causein m e to have to reinstall the operating system on of all days 911-008, ya everything got cooked in an instant of my anger, everthing along the south wall from the west up to my desk on the east wall of my apartment, and one of my tormentors/jailers left town yesterday and i get an e-mial today, he also freaked out and went up north durring the fires 06-20-2008 for a couple of weeks,so here is my response to the e-mail as well as the e-mail, there was others includeing a certificate of me not being a mony launder and drug dealer from the UN.......Being a victum of mk-ultra i have other skills i do not know of, as well as i am realizeing why i didnot feal whole , i am beging to feal whole:eek::cool:and to anyone that i was an ahole to while i was under there infuence i appologize (this is an appologie not a sorry) please dont twist it either i can be assertive and judgemental.......;):)



Should i Tell you hoo you realy are, or shall i say who i am,,,,,,,I ya read the Bible youll know who has a mark on there thigh, as in a name only known to himself and God, and that mark will mean King of Kings Lord of Lords.......It is a shame that some people would allow there own mothers pass just for money,,, how many have ya guys murderd, i dont give a half shit about some percieved money.......I want my children back, and ya know what i mean, shall i use vulgarity. You realy do not know who i am, I am who I am. So ya visiting a family member down south, oh and by the way itsa AHO no ho.......Ya the Catholic Church has a very large dept to pay the people of this planet so your piety and lie's will not satifie this person.......What satifie's me is a Remorseful Heart, ya so how many now have bean sent to try to controle Gods representitive......And by the way i no longer going to tolerate anymore of you charletons that think you can run the world though manipulation and trickery while you satisfie you carnal desire's lusting for the pain and agony of your fellow Human......ya so ya want to sell out your children and wife for a few peices of siver, God has other plan's.......So ya want to know wheere i fit in the heiarchy of world leaders. Why do ya think i returned to destroy the Bhaal preists, because once again they began to worship me istead of the Heavenly Father. But wasnt it you or one of your legion that said im nothing!!!!!!! JUne 6 o8, turn the 8 on its side and ya got eterinity and it is all up to you where ya spend it. I'm calling forth all my people great and small, rich and poor from all corner's of the globe. Some have called me Adam and some SingingFeather....... Know this, to those that fallow the evil one, know this i am your Eternernal Enemy and my Earthly Name is Kalki. Oh by the way is was spoken of before the Bible was written. The period of Grace began in 1993, it is now 9.13.2008 the Grace period is over. Even some of the Watcher's are choosing finaly! The scales have tipped, what you guys did in a year i have done in 3 mnths. Oh ya go ahead and talk to a Lawer or head shrink and ask if they can judge me, you did so ask them to. You tempted the wrong person, i may have to talk to sage about this in person as well as a couple of other boy's.......You guys want to put your memorie's and sins in me, big mistake because i took it all as well as your evil way's and i transmuted it and transfigured it.......Shall i quote some bible passages of what ya have done, as far as the filth you covered me in as well as what ya turned Bruce and CD into, and all of the training in the world wont help, because i hit the Ground Running everytime, even when injured. can ya keap up i dont think so even when i spell it out and pull a Billy Jack.......You were heale one last time to let you choose one last time and to see what you did with it, you are an abomination. I probley dont nead to go into the Pig analogie's, but heres on why does pork smell like humans sometime's, might have something to do with Legion.......I enjoy the verbal banter but it is getting time for the Sons of Thunder to start riding, my horse is a white one and i answer only To the Most High God Almighty, ya know my name (of course not)now. I am the one the worldly kings caste out because i answerd to God and only God, i am of the first family and according to your earthly laws i should hold a seat among the council(the first seat), but your trumped up false diagnosis of my being schizofrenic saw to that, i wonder what the council thinks, are they willing to uphold there own laws, i guese not because im still here and have very little resorces.......So seing as ive upheld not only God's first Comandment to the T (truth) and never comited the one unforgivible sin (blasfeming the Holy Spirity). By the way i am the Holy Spirit.......You and your legion have made alot of promises to alot of people and havent deliverd, yu have broken your own laws as well as Gods laws, therefor you have broken the lease that was given to you, ya know what i am talking about, I claim all the Dead/Deed as well as the Earthly Deeds.......You dont know what a Vajdra is do you. You guys actualy thought i worked for you in Somalia and Panama how many more times did ya use your little MK-Ultra program to get children to fight your wars for you,,,,,, by the way they pulled the records and have tracked my case back to 1-1-1980, that means ya trainded me or conditioned me from 1977 to 1980 then put me out in the feild(war zone) as a child of 9, im sure you guys were astonished at my addeptness at WAR you may have thought it was you that gave me these gifts, and by the way my Power is not in my hair or my Alcholism,,,,,,,you fools thought i was Kain, i will tell you this much cain is one of my sons, and part of this is about a father(me) seaking my sons redemtion by intersesing for 6,000 years.......Now tell me what lengths is a Father willing to go to for his children, cain is a good boy he just was misslead just like Eve was, cain is his brothers keaper, he had to carrie not only his own soul but also his brother Abels. so ya see where the mpd (multiple personality disorder) came from, that is what Cains sin caused,,,,,,,Cains torment will end and Able will be restored as the Hunter he is, and cain will be allowed to resume his farming, Able is the Hunter, Cain is the Farmer.......and i am Kimball/Kalki.......Kimball is the King of god's, or shall i say king of king's, Kalki is the destroyer of confusion and what does a true Lord of the Land do for the people=he keaps order and settles disputes as in aleaviates confusion among his people.......so ya according the goods owed me just in this lifetime would probley drain the banks of the world as well as alot of the land would be deeded to mebut i dont think the devil will make an offer because he knows that i will destroy the monetaray system as wellas open up borders and allow people to live on the land free of charge.......either hand deliver my reconsiltation payments by hand as well as the deeds of my lands or i will just take them by The Force as you put it.
:eek:;):cool::D

--- On Sat, 9/13/08, Rev. Jones Maxwell <rev_jones_maxwell12@live.com> wrote:

From: Rev. Jones Maxwell <rev_jones_maxwell12@live.com>
Subject: RE: MAIL FROM REV JONES...(CHANGE OF DELIVERY COMPANY)‏
To: "Joel Kimball" <brantheblessed@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 12:21 AM


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[mikethepunk]

Hey Kimball thanks for sharing. I have gotten a lot out of your stories so far, thanks for sharing. I know that I am an ancient warrior and have fought in many, many wars having over 16,000 lifetimes on planet earth. I am also a warrior of light. I have been given great knowledge that only a few people have been given. I am not yet ready to take my place on the world's stage due to many reasons and my PTSD. My PTSD is not just from this lifetime, but from the last bunch of lifetimes and the horrific wars that I fought in.

Anyway I am trying to hang in there. Their wars have done there damage to me.

[rr_x]

King Jesus, from Kam (Egypt) to Camelot. King Jesus of Judaea was King Arthur of Britain.: Amazon.co.uk: Ralph Ellis: 9781905815005: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JpK8C-l6L.@@AMEPARAM@@41JpK8C-l6L

[kimball13]

a good book to read is a bool titled,,, The Templar Papers, it speaks of a little of the history and how a groupe of military egotists took them over in 1997.......I am not only a victum i am the rightful ruler of the Templars as well as much more according to not only the Royal Arch Masons but also european royalty:)Ive bean very busy the past 2 months:D can we say BALLS tho The Wall(wall strt that is), Maybe there are some still honoring the old law of the Templars and are listening to there rightful leader, a RAM is by birth and is a right:eek:i was there first vitim and i will be the last,,, me and my mothers side (catholic) have had a major falling out, i was disowened by my sister for not loving money, so when our mother followed my sisters orders and commands in front of my own eye's i knew who she represented "Morgana" the evil half sister of King Arthur.......Morgana tried to regain her controle over me through her ttaactics and people she works for(realy bad mojo), fufisive to say i had to walk of of a mountain and away from there stinking ill gotten wealth and the rest of my biological family, so i have truly sacraficed everything,,,,,,,there is a song about myself and others called Warrior by Kid R*ck and dale earnhard jr, and the National Guard.
The army's motto Army Strong is part of my family motto"fortis non ferox(strong not weak),kid rock is very dear to my heart, his music tells a strory especialy his album Rock and roll Jesus.

I am the true Merovingian King, King of Kings.......The Carolingian king George Bush is a bit nerviose and hopefully he will correct what his ancestror did(pippin the short),,,,,,,how bout that there are still loyal Knights that i have never met face to face yet they still remain loyal after 100's of years on there own,,,i hold the sword and they know it ball the the wallst,,,,,,,it will continue until they capitualate and give me my right's as they should be honored, if they continue as they have over the years the economic crisis will get worse, my people act atonimousely on there own and they know what to do in there own profesions to bring about the "TRUTH" i am Kalki the one on the white horse and i work for God and Christ.......I only want the leaders that refuse to surrender to suffer, there followers only have to turn them in and desert them and come underneath the True banner of the real Templar's,,,wonder why the banking has bin hit hard, well it was the Templars that developed banking so it is us that can destroy it.......Happsberg your a bad boy, are you ready to surrender (capitulate) and turn evidence over or shall i take your resorces and put you where you guys put me:cool: The there is the queen of england is the house of tudor willing to submit yet, they know who i am they have known since my birth,I ALSO AM THE ONE THAT WENT DOWN in the surer 61 in 93, i tried to cause the ambush prematurly to warn of the rest of the force and stop the op because i knew what may happend i was willling to sacrafice my life for my mens as well as the Somalians lives, i have no prejuduces against race.......

victums of what ever, we all are and just refuse to admit it because of Pride...
I admit it and im supposed to be this so called great King,,,the gentic program they did has caused me to have i dont know how many children:)and i love every one of them dearly they truly are beutiful,,,i will be in public today as i am everyday alone and in contact with people, i check on my kids daily and listen to there words of there family of upbringing, i hear them talk aout the men they think are there fathers, sometimes i gigle and have a warm fuzzy fealing thinking, i am hear for you and i want you to know i am here for you and love you,,, i am your real father and they call me Warrior, they call me loyalty, i have sacraficed everything for you includeing my time with you i want you to know why you unwillingly sacraficed time with me and our real family, go army!!!!!!!I love you all includeing some of my enemy's, and this time i declare war and im not under there controle, i have my hair and if ya try to take one hair you will pay dearly(wall)... Wall st started the same time the drug wars did:eek:By the way mota(herb) is not only a sacrament but also a medicine for some...By the way gay marriage does not exist, call it something else, no more manipulateng language(1984) call it a union for gays or something else like Gayig or something else of there choosing so that it is known that they are of a same sex union, if they are proud of there union they will have no problem with this, if they are stuck on the word marriage then they have another agenda that goes beyond marriage,,, are they tring to pull a Dogma move (the movie theme).

We can now clearly see the banks intentions by hw they are still attacking us all, like i said im only attacking the evil leaders the good ones will know this...fro more info read King arthur coverup Ancient History / Forbidden Knowledge / History Rewritten,,, and please read through as i had to write it in a hurry as you see now int the world economy

[kimball13]

the film with clive owen made king arthur look like a man who supported the romans, worshipped a christian god and fought saxons...get this....NORTH of hadrians wall.

the film 'king arthur' butchers all the myths and legends to keep us away from any sort of real story or truth.:

yet i wonder why his assistant is called Joel's:rolleyes:maybe that who the assistant assists in real life in a way, or is he called an armour bearer:cool:so maybe it was a jab to this Joel guy maybe that is the actual real life name of the Return of the King, just maybe someone was either trying to wake a few people up or he was clueing in Arthur's enemy's....yet i must say they portrayed Joel(i mean Arthur) as a bit of an emotionless individual. Leonidas from 300 was a more accurate personality type to the real Arcturus, ya might also say my upbringing is more like a Spartans upbinging adapted to this day and age accept my night against the wolf began at very early childhood age and continued for a very long time, as well as in this day and age there are many type's of wolve's, so ya might say we learned from the battle against the persions, scary huh that there would be a race of people as adept at warfare to include the spartans as well as the fabled Achiles and like's.....So the Nazi's were not concerned with becomeing the so called super race they wanted to controle my people to be there foot soldiers and problem solver's while they sat on there fat pedophiliac arses....woops there goes that spartan attitude peaking through,,,so if a bark is loud enough to reach the vatacan from a sick bed and the bite is harder imagine when that Temple Dog is healed, maybe his bark and bite become one....

Another truth and adherence to the law of the land, is the fact that when the Church allied with the family a law was inacted as well as protocal that my family would always hold the holy roman emperor crown, as well as equal if not more authority to the pope, this was done for several reasons some of which were to legitimize the Church as well as provide a more people based conection to diplomacy amongst other natians, as well as provide the church with protection under the King to remain autonoumouse to have the ability to cross borders with a backing of a formidible group of Knight's called the Templar's and in 1307 the church and king of france's greed and envy delt the final blow and severd any of our obligation to protecting the church, try and imagine a corprate hostile take over by illegal actions and means over a long period of time, it was in the 700's that they overthrough the Frankish branch of the family which gave the church the foot hold it neaded and without a sucsesor(or so was thought,there was a disabled boy taken to a monastary) the Frank's (france)passed to pippin the short/fat the Carrolingians,,,,,,,and here we are in the 701st year since 1307:eek:and around 1300 years since the betayl of pippin against the Merovingian Kingdom,,,,,maybe that statue some point to about the angel Michael standing on the crab means Michael is a cancer by birth sign.:cool:

[tracker]

i for one have never believed the roman catholic churches story about King Arthur being bad , let alone why the elite use King Arthurs name and symbols .

they are all in it together and have dragged the nights of the round table through shit , and now every one believes the roman catholic churches bullshit story that they were bad nights .

i have never believed it my self , too much enfasis and name calling means that the slanderers are hiding something .
its the oldest trick in the book and a phsycological fact .:cool:

[kimball13]

no doubt tracker, guese a tracker would know a bulshit job done by a shit poor dogma based on indulgences and ya can do it if ya got the grean but if your poor they kick when your down the whole time trying to convince the masses as to there good works ya they can realy use a dose of reality....

wonder why Pope Ratzinger, Rat=Rat, Zinger a term to describe a Iraqi intelgence agent:eek:Sadam connection in a weird kinda karmic way hay hay hay itsa Pope dressed in a very pimpish way and the babylon hookers on the way.

By the way in the movie the Germanic pope was also the last germanic pope up until Ratzinger, coinkydink i dont think so, oh wait a coincedent a seamingly unasociated yet similar event, just seamingly unrealated so it is a fucking coincedence, dam there i go on my whole 1984 conspiracy about how we nead to just at least learn the words we do use before we make new one's kinda like dogma's

[phildee3]

i for one have never believed the roman catholic churches story about King Arthur being bad ,



I don't know this one.
Do you have a link or reference to it?

They placed what they believed to be his remains directly in front of the high altar of the most important abbey in England (Glastonbury) so the story must be pretty localised.

[kimball13]

What Tracker may be iludeing to:



in secret the Catholic Church fears Merovingians, Pendragons, Line of David family, and why the family's have bin hunted and enslaved by the church,...the down fall of the frankish empire the land of Britton, Israel, and now currently America,, i wonder what America has to do with it but it is intresting that everytime we get away and start are own, every time its the same we choose treaty's and at time's very long term tactical retreat's rather than practiceing the same type of enslavemet that some choose to practise as well as i have ben very compasionate by allowing the church to continue because the people want a pope to talk to God, well ta begin with the bible itself going back to the first King of the bible say's it is the KIng that represents God not a Pope the pope is nothing more than a fabrication so that Rome could feal important and rather than a very prolonged war we wolllllllla the Roman Catholic Church, and why was the church given diplomatic rain throught kingdoms well it was through the church that the cerntral King would set policy with the pope as a type of Leutenant(fckin LT's)and this way the other Kingdoms under the Christian banner would feal unified without fealing like one country controled the rest,, i mean ya think Europe wouldave gone along with Britton setting policy for not only them but also Jerusalem.....So we went from Britton in or around 1307 to where well here and there but mostly USA :eek: and who ya ask well i would say something like Merovingian, Pendragon, and Abraham:cool: yet again the constitution that we keap trying over and over again byte's us in the keaster, when we separated church and state maybe we should become a bit more specific, separate church and God and if they want ta listen then listen according to your own treaty's that ya keap breaking and the latest would be right hear in the good old USA, im sure all of the writter or breaker's can be soon found to have a conection to the Catholic/Vatican'''''',,,,,,so if someone wants to just take a look at the art of war they practice, divide and conquer, and what do they fear Unity and what is my family known for:rolleyes:doing God's work and fighting evil in a nut shell, so if anyone wants ta point who is the only group without a BIG finger pointing at it the Vatican and who is usualy the responsible party divideing everybody answere the one everyone seaks aprovel from as the rest of us die and who has that ben for some time Vatican, and who did Kennedy well posiblily the Vatican i mean think about it by being Catholic who did he pleagde his loyalty to welll they pledge to the Roman Catholic Church/ The Pope so who told him to do what ta get in the white house,,,,,,,,Ya i wonder hay mayybe the tragedy that has befalen the kenedy's has ben karma for killing there own son and holding someonelse's hostage, i mean how has the church gotten away with somuche, :eek: oh ya i should reitifie that i love America and God 1st century christian of sorts and native and have not much understanding of the Islamic Scriptures so i have no opinoin on there Truth although i have misgiveing's as to there tactics at time's and some extreem element's yet i do somewhat understand haveing known how it feals to be convinced of being almost helpless and seing the only tactic left is mass destruction and terror,,,,,,,im going to say this the only thing that neads attacking is money and corprate greed,,,the Vatican neads to be shut of from all resorces and financial institutions until they allow investigation inther secret archive's and such better yet not just an investigation how about sesure of records and certain assets, we dont want the fat cats to suffer to much:rolleyes: so Ratizinger why doya think my nickname in 1993 was Grace, then it became Merlyn then Singing Feather and then the Chief of the Thunderbeing's (wehopeyataeh mani) maybe ya didnt properly translate that one when ya first got it,,,there may be a similar refernce in something called the Bible.....So maybe i should lighten uup a bit maybe not,,,i mean why stop now we just got 600 more sicko's rounded up and i wonder how many of them can be connected to something Catholic(why not use there tactic of truthfull slander on them),,oopps so sorry am i doing what the Church tried with Rock-n-Roll and connect everything bad to it, payback is a what......

Hay Vatican, i put ya on notice in 2002 and ya are still sending provacatooors(good looking but still i mean comon), good thing its not the Mossad i might be a bit in trouble, but here's something ya didnt count on did ya churchypoo, ya might have ben in the game this way for a few milenia but did ya consider how long weve ben in it and continue to defeat you and as it is written will do so again,,,,,im begining to think this warr with the children of esau is realy with the Vatican and not between the children of Jacob or Esau so who is the Vatican(check some other threads im sure there are alot of opinions pretty close)

I read a bible passage about, and he will purifie a strange people.. i wonder if that could refer to a motey crue of sorts, i mean just imagine a Hebrew, Arab, Muslim, Christian, Pagan all standing side by side fighting corprate tyrany..............So in a nut shell it was the same family that stemmed the major religions and continues to unite the earth's religions,,,,,,,,here's a little story to explane, 7 torche's go into the directions each carrying a part of the curltur and teaching's to settle the Earth and they are told you will all meat up again here in the future and you will recognize one another by the symbols in the teaching's as well as other thing's and you wil meat again here, that here is America, 7 torches were sent into the directions to return to the main fire some day, and maybe that is Why i was Named a Chief of the Fire by the Lakota Souix.....

An irrony is that this forum i suppose is based in England or such maybe the last kingdom i had a home in, but maybe it is here due to my skin being a bit dark and i have an adversion to tracking type stuff and native american spiritualty, maybe that has ben part of there reluctance and why i was blackballed was because a native american in the wood pile, and from a group that claims to judge men based on charecter, well i sure hope ive shown my charcter more than once a day itsa bit of more than a habit for me to be of integrity with a compasionate Heart more than once a day,,,, maybe i should keap a note book of just the itybity's i do in a day, it take's a bit more than a day or an emergency for me to do anything of a large scale mainly due to my poverty as well as having no suport, aperatus, or funding to enact change other than knowing what a Meme is and using it for awhile, ya ever see an Eagle going in for itsa prey....Im sure it has looked like myself and many other's have looked like falling Eagle's:p im going to put this very simpy,,,your either born with it or ya aint God gives it or he dont, ive had it since before birth, ive known somethig my whole life, yet ive also known it wasnt time in the past to use certain thing's/gift's, some have tried to unlock those gift's at an earler age in retaliation for past things such as 93, they though it was going down then and wanted to force me to become something through there technique's,,,,,,,basicaly i emphaticly told them it is not time and no one can make it come any sooner and you can not stop it, the more you do either well we all know from everyculture on the planet what happends when ya piss mother Earth or God of or try to controle them or there ordained One's:cool:So if Mother Earth and Heaven Pass Away and Become One doe's that mean Marriage:)finnaly no bastard's woops guese ya dint know we all are bastids in a way, maybe thats why some dont like me i put it in terms that are to the point(not unlike a Sword)

Alot of people dont understand what im saying unless they are intelgent enough or pay enough attention to who is realy delivering the message, yep for some it just get's jotted down and passed to there controler's in a sense, for other's it just sinks into there supbconcience and sooner or later they start to become more truthfully themselve's and they rave about it yet they cant stand it when im saying it, maybe that is because i spead dirrectly to there charcter defect without condemnation or condesending to them just letting them deal with it between them and God or whomever....Maybe that is why Kalki rings a bell....So the smart one's like me, or whatever type of person they are, that know what im talking about, and some even tell me they dont understand alot of it but at time's it gells and walla, then other time's it just sinks in and they still realy dont know what i said but for somereason i make sense, heck i dont know i dont like to see what other see in therheads, and i have a way diffent perceptionse,,,,,so it boils down basicaly to if ya dont have the capacity for honesty most can not stand me, some of the other type's only withstand my presense in hopes of controle or a money makeing idea,,,,,,so ya ive ben told my voice has very strange affect's especialy when i am allowing God to Speak without my own human fear of rejection, because believe me when i say ive bean rejected by everyone yet the funny thing is everyone has also asked me to join at the same time weird huh almost like a head game....

So how do ya like me hiding as either myself or someonelse brainwashed to pose as me in a programing enviroment desinge to create a jim jones or manson type, olh the tangled tangel web, and what good is a tangle web welp not any for the spider for one, and in reality what happends to a spider web when one of the Lions of Judah come strolling through......

Ya think it weird that so many would think the rider On the White Horse whose nam Is Truthfull and Faithfull with the mark on his thigh and written on his robe the title/name King of Kings Lord of Lords,,,,,so my question is where did they come up with me being the anti-christ from the name Truthfull and Faithfull and having the titles of the leader of the Heavenly Army now why would i be the other guy according to some,,,,read it again and you will see that i am the one that doe's battle with Satan and his beast's, i am not the anti-christ or any thing of the sort, i am what the anti-christ fears Most because of who my CO is just one and two offices above mine, lets see itsa kinda like ya gota President then the VP the the Secretary of Defence, now i wonder where the structure came from, the diffence is we never leave office and well a bit on the protected from above side, thank God and i do intend the pun because God doe's have a sense of humor by the way,,,,,,did i mention the dead stick in the ground that had ben there for years turning into a fig tree in 2002-2003 outside of my cottage room while i was healing from my muscle being ripped away from my lower spine and haveing the largest hemotomad kidney they ever seen that didnt burst, mabey some shouldvel listne back then, i mean it does appear as if there has ben some major signs just in the weather, the stock market, and the soon to take office President of USA, let alone a large 3 of other things as well as in my local county, woops and i still managed to do everday community service while helping enact local change for the better of all.......And me without realy any thing going for me other than shear faith and what God has provided even through all of the attempts to completly make me destitute,,,,how did that red hand family guy put it, dont fck with the throne, well someone fcked with the throne big time, jus like someone said to me today, you dont even know who you are, ya they assumed i was helpless as long as i didnt know who i am and they thought that they had controle, ya right and they say im arrogant, nope i might be a bit on the Faithfull Truthfull side of the coin and if that appears as arrogance to someone that knows not good charecter because it is rarely seen anymore then thats on them,,,,,,,,,And by the Way did ya ever imagine or contemplate what someone would sound like if God himself called him Truthful and Faithful ya a bit on the very confident side, so there ya go a bit of what ive learned about myself from a searching a fearless moral inventory, imagine looking for someone to look up to and the closest ya can find that might just be a bit more idealistic is Christ i will tell ya it get confuseing especialy while you still apreciate other's gifts and learn from them and know that sometime's its not my gift, just like the name i am first and formost Truthful and Faithful, and im sure God has given me the ability's to backit up as well as the other's to help. so maybe the time of Grace is about up, and the more i accept this i believe the Truth is Closer to fullfilment whatever that means to ya doesnt realy matter that is God's bussines and i still find it hard to not question and through a fit but at least i know better than to go against or fight with God's desisions no matter what my limited wisdom thinks God is Infinite in Love, Wisdom and Knowledge and i will leave the Grace period decision to our Heavenly Father.

[kimball13]

the hopi speak of the brother's across the ocean coming and with them:cool:

the lakota speak of the rissen warrior in the past, then the Elder's,Medicinepeople,Holypeople,etc coming back as the children of white man(include's adoption's, mixed,etc,culture)

Wavoka was thought to be:rolleyes:

Sons of thunder(revalations) the Thunder beings(in lakota my name means basicly the one with the power of God/The leader of the thunder being's,,,after years i began to realize the simalrity's betwean myself and some of the teaching's of the lakota as well as other thing's, some people would notice something and begin to say something like he has the marks or something they saw psycilcly and would become frightend and i would just put it in the back of my mind and go about my work, but after so many thing's pointing to my heritage, taking a Sword from my father, a birth mark on my thigh, the diffent name's ive recieved as well as the one on my birth certificate all ment the same thing so much so that i figured at first someone was trying to make me a jim jones, manson type because some sicko saw how well i did cerimonyand led prayer and teaching's so i focused on that and the little experience i had in cult retreival helped to, but anyways, it then realy began to dawn on me that maybe there was a very high calling that i did not see in myself or someone had tried to keap from me,,,,,,,its kinda funny that the town i live in its court house has the sam name as the court that convicted christ(San Hedron) and im 40 minutes from bohemian grove,,,,,,,,,so it dawned on me why would they put so much effort into me when there where far more malable people than i and well God had to choose someone and even the Elect will be fooled and maybe that is why what happend here on 06-20-2008 after weeks of gideon prayer then my final prayer durring an anxiety attack i walked into the emergency room on a very suny day without a cloud in the sky and just before i left unmedicated i said a prayer a bit like this alright this is it my last prayer im willing to just be crazy and vitim of coincednce's or you(God) have to give me a sign that i cannot denie, that is when i walked out and saw black clouds to the west and we had 8,000 lightning strikes in an instant and nocalifornia went up insmoke, it was like night heere durring the day with all the smoke,,,,,,,,,it was about another couple of weaks after meditateing and askeing what the next step was and i then found myself writeing Historical King Arthur Coverup, and f@##king up the cheating in china game's and neutralizing the symbols at the event with the help of the forum of course, the the russia georgia thing(war of the roses:eek:)didnt he move there in 95 after being edjucated in USA,,,,,then there was everthing from 2002-2008, man its ben like ive ben getting slugged in every worldly way by the machine that they could here localy,,,and every time they attack i just go ok now my turn and then pedophiles get busted, sucide rings broken up, dirty politicians caught, corporations getting caught,,,,,,,,,,everytime i tell them and they no that is why the comic Damage exists(especialy issue 7) everytime they attack it causes my energy to increase way beyond there's, i told them it wasnt just limited to what is done to me dirrectly but what they do to the inocent,,,,,so in a nut shell even someof the real creapy type's that have chosen to go mental mind freaking and learning to manipulate other peoples minds and energy's even they agrea im at there level althogh untrainded:rolleyes:and i try to tell them im diffent than you are my path isnt the same as your's,,,,it take's them awhile sometime's to relize im no recruite and my mane back up is God and his people and things like world economys become affected,,,,,,,,,an interesting family trait is we have very often built and destroyed place's like Troy and Briton, ther may even be an Achile's in the wood pile,,,,ye we built Troy to.........Not to get of topic but i wonder if the diffent foot soldiers of diffent groups relize what realy going on an who they are poking and proding as well as the intense war taking place in many uper echelons of goverments, wonder why all the diffent bust of corporations,politicians, churchs,etc, its called cleaning house, and i keap telling them either you relize whats going on and own your part and be accountable and point out who's order's you follow so we may pursue it to the top, and i mean the top, i was taught it is the leader that must be accountable and surrender just as Abraham lincoln had the south surrender and if they continue:rolleyes:well something just like wallst may happend, im not concerned about money i want the real sicko's just like the 600 pedophiles busted in a childslaveryring that where running 47 children as sex slaves were busted here in USA at truck stops, casino's,internet(one ring)..........And we all know the Vatacans' reputation concerning pedophilia, so maybe that is the core of my conflict with the vatican, and they want to tell there fanatics im the evil one, ya sure there the whore of babylon for real i am very sure of that now.
Kalki vs Kali (califonia)Vedic.
it is also very irronic that i would be in an area known for people such as jim jones and charles manson,,,,my early summer's where spent in socal with what may or may not be my grandparnts(maternal)a Yugoslavic family of croation/atrian decent with political and secret service family members with Croatia and Veneswala as well as they are Catholic. My father's side has ben hunted by the vatican for at minimum 1300 year's, i can even tie the older kenedy joseph and jfk into this and why they fell from the vaticans graces,,,,to start my grandfather developed the first drone's/remote control plane's to drop the a-bomb, the test plain had jfk's older brother the one being groomed for presedincy was at the helm of the test plain setting the controle's and getting ready to leave the plane when for some reason he never exited and a malfuntion sent it to the ground, just maybe those three kennedy's were more christian and truly believed in Cameolot more than they believed in the Vatican which by the way if ya look hard enough is the one thing that has a tie to all suspect's as well as the influence and yet they were never suspect,,,,and when the thought of Camelot came to the seen they realy freaked and look at what has happend since, just ML king, Kennedy, Veitnam, LSD, Methanphedeimine, War on terror, should raise attention, did i mention Hansen the guy that burned the entire USA european counter intelegence manpower oversea's, he was head of fbi's russian counter intel office and sold what he knew to the u guesed russia, he was busted around 2001. Now what does it have to do with me, jst a little title like prince of Albany, i became aware of a man named prince michael of Albany (scotland)i also found i had a claim to this moreso because i am a dirrect decendant and hereditary tilltle holder, so i pulled his cover's, now the why other's want it bad, there are three crown's one of which is Jerusalem's crown, now imagine if they found the rightful heir to these crowns, heck even Habsburg is trying to finagle them,imagine the influence of the scotish, british, and jerusalem royal house,,,,,,now imagine if ya couldnt controle the real one because there is something very diffent about him so they try every way they can to stop him from gaining any kindof public success or living above below poverty,,,its to the point that some of the crony's attack me with judgment and condemnation for very mundane things such as just walking down the street, they keap trying to prove there acusations every which way....

i mean its so bad that even growing up with the handicap that they induced i still remained healthy and somepeople assumed i came from money because of the way i carreid myself, some thought i had an easy silver spoon life:rolleyes: and now i let my hair grow and a bit of facial hair and its eary a bit like the old painting's of the kings of Britton and Scotland(a bit tanner), even the beard line and hair, then theres the vets that say i have the same look they do, well i gues if i am Arcturus that does explain why warriors would think i have the same look of war as they do, maybe that is why some fear me and judge me,then there are the people that are highly insightfull and aware with curriosity that recognize the trains of thought and methods to the honesty and correction of certain spiritual concepts practiced by alcholoics and addicts, yet i do drive some people nuts because they assume they know the important basicis as to the 12 step, 12 traditions, 12 concepts, and everytime they take the time and stop trying to use the na and aa structure for there own political/ifluecial greed(u would be suprised what could be done with AA and NA as a political tool)i suppose they inundated this area because of my afiliation since 1986-87 to present, so ya i find myself dealing with some intreched for 17+ years and either they were here for other reasons or it was just for me and everyday it become's more obviouse it is for me and it is becomeing obviose to alot of other's;)so there are those that relize what is realy going on and they learn to feal again and then there are those that have no heart left:(But when they begin to heal it is worth it, i even gigle because some people begin to see that it is something im doing or involved in that is causeing them to learn to look into there own heart and heal and heal other's, to tell you the truth i almost fal out of my chair when i see them relize this, yet most of the time what follows is confusion because they look at me and what they see is a mirror(reflection and mirror are differnt)yet when they know that what they see is there own stuff then they begin to see me as a freind and just like them just something realy strange must have happend to make me the way i am and we both relize that the emotion i emote is spiritual, im just diffent and the same who knows maybe it true that angels will manifest in the flesh, maybe that is what the andgel that is the heavenly son of man is. Man talk about identity crissis, an offsping of man an angel, would that mean he would have the loyalty to God as an angel of the 7 as well as the free will of being a man, kinda a Blade thing being also the one that see's God, The only angel that looks upon God or is aloud to sit in the Throne room........and who knows maybe there are more like me around the world.

[peter griffin]

this thread is amazing.i usally get board of long drawn out threads but this is an exeption.kimball13,you should put all this info in book form.
alot of the things you are saying,confirm what i have found out through my own research.im looking forward to yur future post.

a few questions if you dont mind.

how inflauential is kabbalah?is it the main source of masonic ritual?
in numerology,does the event determine the numbers or do the numbers dictate the event?
are you familiar with the writings of manly palmer hall and if so,how close to the truth does he get?

when you speak of God.are you refering to the God of Abraham,Issac and Jacob or a gnostic,rosicrucian interpretation of God?

[tracker]

agreed it is great to see some one open up so deeply with out fear .

brave soul indeed .

we need more like this .

as stated i have never been fooled by the vatigons games of making history think that the nights templer were bad . even icke fell for it .
shame really , coz its so obvious too that the popes etc went out of their way to discredit the nights templer and for a good reason too . so many people have taken the bait its unreal .

there is a movement embedded deep within history of those who fight the beast / dragon / reptilians .

not all royalties and large families of importance were bad guys .

there is nothing worse than showing people that we live in a reptilian run world with no good guys .

this guy is one that stands out from the croud and is unafraid .

a true worrior , worthy of acceptance and respect .:cool:

[tracker]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ojUa332pcoY&feature=related

[kimball13]

doing it this way seamed to be the only way i could get it out, especialy since just about everything i even get close to succeading at that has to do with money/buracracy/stickynwo finger's everything get screwed/sabataged, stolen and someone else make a mint and recieve's acolaids and promotions in some very interesting profesions so i figured after prayer that i should just put it out as fast as possible so that after outing the false prince michael lafosse of albany and tracy twyamans promoteing Nicholas Devere i should make sure that if it is not me that is heir to these title's then i could at least make sure that it get out about the infighting.

[kimball13]

USA may be devided into 5 separate countrie's is actualy a very old prediction, first time i heard it i was a child.

i warned them what would happend if they continued down the path they chose. I informed them that they neaded to first listen to the guide and treat him as an equal as well as give him equal stature, instead they chose to whip him and make him live in squaler because of the wisdom and knowledge he contained since childhood, they feared that if he was allowed to mature and find succes in society they feared he would use his gifts and acumulate power and influence backed by what society says is an upright man...

instead since an early age, he was yanked out of private school, the condo he began his childhood became a distant memorie, the lovening atmosphere he was accustomed to waking up to in the morning was evaprating as a distant wisp........life became one of hardship and he began to relize he had a strange handicap (no sphincter, uncontrolable bowels),,,,,,,,the condo became comunal living in large victorians in SF, school became public special ed, my doctors appointments the DR were always in disbelief when they relized i was healthy, intelgent and suffenerd from no depresion.....4th grade role's around i just came back from hawia before that was my first experince at hard labor, just before the hard labor vacation i had demanded that i be taken out of special ed and be put in a regular classroom so i could learn how to read,,,within the first semestrer i was being asked if i would like to go into the gifted class(brainiacs)talk oubout culture shock, i begin to do well, heck i even one a costume contest with a costume i made myself at around 9, then poof of to the woods for hard labor then from theere to hawia where that ended with hard labor and them my first bible from an elderly couple.........It was also at this time in my life that i was informed i would no longer have any birthday partie's,,,,,i also became suspiciose when after two instances, one saving a drowning man in 1980 and preventing a city block from burning, just two between 10-12 years old and in none of my good deads of this caliber where ever acknowledged, actualy im usualy punished by some person,,,,,,boy did i get punished for saving a major city's water supplie a bit back, im still ouching from that good deed, ya know what bite's is its usualy someone else that wants credit in someway or dont want me to recieve credit so maybe just maybe some of the people ive consulted for or actualy became covered in there blood saving there life have ben corersed or payed of to help to discredit me, maybe with a story like he cant atract attention because of ??????????I know im not to much of an embarasing charecter when not provoked to survival mode, ive ben in settings that require a certain level of etuquite which comes naturaly, maybe itsa the royal blood to carrie myself in a certain way, yet the walk of a Pendragon im sure resemble's a bit of a Warrior gate with a royal grace.........durring a time in my boyhood about a year before i moved to my father's for a while, i was in grassvalley we were caretaking some land and living in tent's and a converted stepvan and trailer,,,,,,,,,i realy began to notice i was diffent even from my family,,, maybe a bit more aware and physicaly addapted for survival,,as well as some kids realy were jeolouse and would gang up on me to make me feal less than,,, they knew better than to make funn of me about my birth defect because that was the one of limits thing that i felt gave me permision to show them what i could do,,,,so they would do things like ditch me by betting me i couldnt swim across the lake then on my way back they would be running down the road laughing at me, it was on that walk back that i heard God speaking through the animals saying my name Jehoel jehoel joel joel, it comforted me and since then everytime i look into the eye's of an animal or child im comforted and reminded of Gods love,,,,,,,that group of boy's were my neighbors that lived in a fancy house, they even had atari and vcr and would invite me over to set me up for humiliation but compared to my stepdad most people never compared so i guese i do have him to thank for toughining me up and accidentaly teaching me what it means to forgive and practice the act of being meek with humility,,,,,,,,and if people relized that the humble and meek can kick ass as well as act like a real ahole at time's so remember sometime's anger is done out of compasion, when condemnation happends without just cause there is no justice or compasion, when forgivnes happends when there is cause to judge and carry out justice and this is spoken and made clear that mercy is being given through the grace of God then this is true love and compasion even when spoken in anger towards the deed. Boy have i looked like a push over but hay its all about love,,,,,,,,,,,heres the truth as to why i started to read and explore the bible and native american ways as well as look into a few other's is i wanted to make sure i just wasnt dreaming up certain things pertaining to being a spiritual warrior and doing what God love's(im not perfect, in alot of ways),,,,i had my idea's of what a man should be like before age 7 and when i read the bible at around 9-10 i relized i was at least close to the right track, especialy when i read about men like Gideon, David, Jashua, Jerimiah............Ya know th efunny ha ha is it slipped my attention about one of the angels on the ark of the covnant sitting in the place of mercy then the name with the added letter's led me to this because a few someone's kept mispronouncing my name so i typed the misspronounciation and walla, i guese thats why someof the jeolousey and miss-jugment by other's because im sure it does throw a few of because ther is only one angel that is allowed to sit in the throneroom with the heavenly choir, only one of the 7 angels get's a seat, not even Michael sit's, so at time's some have confused this angel with God yet he is God's scribe and that is why he is allowed to sit so he may write creation and tend to the Akashic records(librarian), he is also the one that holds the leviathan in check as well as the Heavenly son of man, yet he is an angel not christ, some even confuse him with Michael, i wonder why he is not spoken of more:cool:maybe because he is realy feared by the evil in the world so much that he is rarely spoken of even by christianity because they know that when this angel come's then change in a drastic manner is about to happend.............it wouldnt suprise me if they thought they hit the jackpot, but im also sure that it pissed them off a bit because of my seamingly being rebeliose because in reality i work for and only take order's from God himself,,,,,,,,,,that was part of my punishment it was not because of my rebeliouseness (like what satan did) i got 60 lashes from God because when one of you were brought to the room you thought because i was seated that i was equal to God so the only way to make it very clear to you that i am an Angel of God He had to punish me in front of you to make it very clear from the start and i agread because even i know that God is infintly Wise and Loveing..............

So this may also be why other's may be confused or think i act unwisely, no i just do the best i can and am given the knowledge i nead when neaded guese it come's from all the writing,,,,,,maybe that is why this particular angel has a human heritage so that he can sit and perform funtions the other angels are not capable of doing yet, ya see part of all this believe it or not it the marriage of angels and man in a sense, imagine mans body being glorified in angelic splendor and angels souls as free as mans,,,ya think the tower of Babel was only about language, could it also ben a metaphor as in a separation of humanity made in God's image or should i say an attempt to artificialy cause a premature union of angel and man...........maybe this is why i always felt christ to more of an equal in many ways in all but one and it is that one that i admire and love the most about him, also explains why i have no problem debateing with clergy. I realy have to say that putting this out there is a great relief even though it will probley cause a computer glitch or buricratic snafu for me that will put my fixed income and such in a fix were my only logical choice is to hunkerdown and not pursue an edjucation or try to elivate my social status, and they think i just want a degree so i can try and do it there way:rolleyes:part of it is what does it say about God's servant's and Angel's being turned away and mistreated, imagine if you were actualy a angelic heavenly son of man(as some have alluded to), and i have witnessed the repercusion of the actions some choose,,,,,,,,,,,heck i even asked for help from the local Catholic Church to give them the oppurtunity to at least pray for me and counsel me, as i walked out i heard the preist tell the receptionist that he was order to not help me...........since 99 ive had people warn me that i was in danger, i have alot of warning's and threat's from at time's representitive's of very powerfull and influencial groups both legal and illegall as well as into international.............so usualy what has happend is im told they will help then what happends is when i think they have changed they just get worse, not that i didnt acpect it,,,,,,,,,,i mean in 99 i talked to my Grandfather's best freind and he was also a fellow high level Mason, i followed his advice and things got worse, these guys had there game going back to my grandfathers best freind being part of it.......What would scare rich powerful men about a little handicapped boy labeld as possibly being retarded. Now there argument is because of everything i went through make me only able to handle there dirty work or as a whipping boy,,,i guese they never realy learned there supposed secret teachings and what a man of true charecter is able to edure without becomeing a monster, they should also know that when a man of charecter battle's a demon he will look like a Gargoyle,,,,Angels are very scary looking when in battle, and when your coverd in demon slime ya stink like they do,,,,,i suppose the angel in charge of the Angel's of destrution and sustaining is a bit scarey because just like my lakota name they both mean Thunder Being, the power to destroy and sustain life, they may have caught on as to my true identity before i did but i knew what i was capable of first and was responsible by always putting it in God's hands, since childhood ive gone through several prayer sesions sometime's lasting years asking that if they be not gift's for the service of God then please take them God but if they be from You then helpl me understand and use them wisely for the betterment of mankind.

Maybe this explains the emphasis on the Arthurian Pendragon/ Merovingian/ King David Bloodline's,,,,,,,,,Explains why the ultimate power a true King Holds is the power to destroy or sustain the life,,,the first is sustaining life at almost any cost and then and only then doe's God alow a truely apointed King to weild the sword using its destructive edge, and this is the two edged sword one edge for the food to feed, shelter, clothe, teach the people the other edge to protect and correct the people from ignorance and that which devide's...crazy huh,,,its understandible why somme have wanted to recruit me form everything from restruant , conseleling , covert you name it there have ben a few that wanted to take me under there wing yet there was always that impas because we would agree that i was teachable and equal in a way yet when it was clarified that i served God first and foremost and i could not submit to any but the Lord God in Heaven but i could listen to authourity of lawful nature as well as follow the footsteps of a man more ritchouse than myself(still looking), funny when they judge me for not getting married yet and they cheat on there wive's and vicea versa, and to be honest it take's a woman of great spiritual integrity to realy deal with me, its not because im judgemental or condeming or even demanding or difficult, it realy boils down to they relzise the strange things that happend around me includeing the cause and affect as well as the hint of a conspiracy taking place,,,,,then there is the sabatage that occurs at time's in my relationships which i relize that maybe a blessing that happends because it is a reflection of there personal integrety to think for themselve's instead of a lesbion giveing advice on how a man is supposed to express his emotions and love, ya a lesbion told my last phiance that i should show her the same pasion i expressed when i was teaching or performing cerimony, i tried to explain to her that that was between me and God and i could not do her the injustice by putting her in that place and boy would God tan my hide,,,,then there was the why dont you teach me to do what you do, and i had to let her know as my significant other she was my equal and she could learn from me by being herself and helping me as my wife,,,someone told her to separate our relationship depending on where we were, i had already ben doing native american cerimony's for 4-5 solid years tending fire at an average of 200 sweats alone a year as well as putting 30,000 miles on my vehicle every summer going to help and teach at vision quest camps, it was on my trip back here to California to get my stuff to move to ST louise MO to be with her i had to stop over in Springfield MO to pick up a sacred pipe maker(peace pipe) and then a stop on pine ridge reservation in south dakota/nebraska it was at that stop over that i was made Fire Chief (chief of the fire) of the Lakota, the sundance at the time was also surounded and being investigated by the FEDs,,,,,,,,,,did i mention she first moved out here with me then because of her gradmas health she moved back there and when she first got there she calls me and says some men in a goverment car stopped outside of her sisters house and toook there picture, she then apologized and said i thought you were just a little crazy,,,,,,maybe they were wondering why someohow i would end up with a granddaughter of a prominent french family, gues i still have great affection for her and a bit of love she is quit a woman, i think she is involved in some kinda hiphop street ministrie/avantgaurd film new age type get a point across type stuff, she's a bit a activist and idealist and it was nice to see the website i do hope she is doing it out of integrety (i dontjudge).

Its funny i get from some, they want to know what i feal remorse or guilt for, and i want to tell them the cruelty i see other's do, because it may be my teaching that causes them (the cruel one's)to loose everthing(and i meen everything), and its not realy remorse its more like sorrow,,,,,,,,then they try to make me feal a fallure and i just look at them and laugh becuase considering that i may not be materialy rich and have ben severly ripped of ive ben up against a very large and well financed enemy and im still healthy and moving forward so that tells me im a very scary sucses so a falure no i dont feal like that, now my patients and tolerance are wearing thin because i know that by attacking me and taking my birthright they are bringing thereown destuction and it is they that nead to learn how to listen to authourity,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,have your heard the angels dance on the plains, the sound and power combined with the sense of comfort and love, the mixture of power and nurturing it is truly gloriouse, the rest of that night is personal for now, i tink that was 96,,,,,,,,,,,so maybe that is why i intimidated Many TwoFeather's because it doesnt matter how many books you write or who you network with or are backed by you either have it or ya dont and alot of em wanted what i ended up with, imagine the way they felt hears this little puke not even 30 understanding and performing cerimony that they still havnt learned in there 20 or so years of being no more than groupie's hanging around like buzzards waiting for the elders to die so they could slipp in and take over, :eek:just a side bar why i mentioned a mayan moved to usa and became a sundancer maybe he was privy to a mayan body of info and if so it doe's apear as if he was another trying to become me somehow........so there ya go a few trying to be like someone or to actualy be him and when they meat the real one i guese they get confused and feal like im going to attack so they act out of fear then after i calm them down as im defending myself from there attack then the start up again bacause they always think im going to come back and take revenge and i just keap saying to them if ya keap it up you will only destroy yourself so just stop and maybe help............

[kimball13]

just a few ramblings that i though did not belong in other post i left and just thought maybe instead of just deleteing like i usualy do to alot of what i write her it is just a bit of unadressed things of important's as well as a portion of what the celestine prophecy's insight's are about.........






but basicaly they messed with the wrong little boy for to long and he was never helpless and he knew what he is capable of and why God put it in his heart to only use it for what God intended and also that because of choice and free will that boy could have chosen a much darker path which may or may not led to evil actions......i started the rest of this post from another thread about an article on cyber warfare and after lookin at an article on jewels given to Rice by Arabian Royalty,,,,and if you havent noticed i only meddle in my own business and related affairs that catch my eye, and unless there is a clear motive with opportunity as well as to many coincendence combined with to many document's in my possesion includeing x-ray's and legal local/state/federal documents that have ben misplace and not adhered to(civil rights and breach of contract violations) that point to a large conspiracy with me as center from my point of veiw or having a very influential part in i keep my mouth shut if it is not my affairs. So i do wonder why the three qaurter of a million in jewels where about given in the past year to Rice is realy about....But why would a rogue group of retired military want something like a Scottish simple royal title like Prince of Albany that may be atached to the English and Jerusalem Crown and who know what other title's other than just a few Kingships,,,,ya wouldnt want a king that could provide solutions would you, because this new war on terrorism that is to replace the war on drug's (mid 1800's-9-11-2001)would not last to long if someone that could gain such title's was able to weed out the real enemy's of humanity,,,,,,,,,,,and talk about another crazy coincidence someone of the line of David and of royal blood being found as well as liveing a life as described the good king would grow up living so what is the reality of all of this well it is alot like what was written in many text's found all over the world yet alot different, yet the same when those diffence's are looked at again at a later date,,,,,,,,,,,then there is the other crazy part is when im attacked somehow im given the knowledge to see the counter and understand the tactic being used,,,the hard part is absorbing the attack because if i dont it go's back at them and usualy devastating so i gues im a bit co-dependant which im getting over, not that any greedy ahole's have felt it come back a bit more on them lately,,,,,,because like the Avatar on the left i am kinda like the only one that can contole Damage and just mabye that is because that is who i am. So if ya want to know a fictional tale of myself in modern mythologie look up damage's story and ya might see the similarity's of what they did and how they did it to me,,,,includeing the ghostly type's that they used to imprison me in a sense and im not talking God im talking ghost's type thing's screwing with me,MIND FREAKS,..........and i always tell em not to do what there doing that they may get a taste of what they want but the attacks are going to cause great harm,,,,,,,,,,,,im going to get to another point i dont make to often but there is truth to the cellestine prophecy's insight's yet it is not a scroll that taught them and that is also why there has come out more, yet most choose to missuse them by trying to obtain them first,,,,,,,,,,,,,and angain they do not come from a scroll they started from a boy that they did the best they could to cause great pain, anger and to instill hatred if the could,,,,ya want to know how i know, well one reason is someone i know was about to cut me open to find out,,,he was sure because of what i dispayed and the scar on my stomach, but something kept my head on and my stomach uncut because i think he realized that it was not a scroll that that book talked about but a boy...




spirit tracking is an awareness of certain God codes so to speak. and now why would twisted sister be on the stock market on the begining of Hanukkah,,,,were not gonna take oh no wher not gonna take any more, ah the memorie's of puberty







it would be hilarious if i got paid but instead they would rather play wargame's to try to disprove..........now let me see it was a disk from a well known store that caused me to realize as to what the extent of possible damage could be done and wouldnt ya know a call to someone i knew working in a very large city's water department led to the saving the city's water suppy just in the nick of time as well as provieding a very simple solution......i better stop or im going to go into the fck up that happend because some ahole wanted credit behind the anthrax back in 2001, i said John Hopkins univercity i never said a person or DR i only let them know that it could be possible to run certain biological warfare stuff right from a university and as well as the delivery system,,,and people wonder why im so pissed, the DR that the individual thought he could make a good bust on ended up commiting suicide because of the shame caused by them naming him,,,,if my memorie serve's me correctly,,,,,so because of my assosiation with someone that i thought had our best intrest in mind jumped on just the name and did not hear the Word UNIVERSITY or who knows maybe that is also why he then tried to cover up by attacking me later on, he knew it was only a matter of time until someone found out how he was coming up with so much top notch analysis,,,,gues he wanted to relive his younger years,,,,maybe i shouldnt go into who i think curve ball was and why that fictional charecter was developed,,,ah heck i think he developed it to put on me if i was ever discoverd as being his own personel analyst,,,that was around the time i was slipped a hallucinogenic (good thing i know how to enjoy, and shit after the things i went though whats a little acid),,,,,,,,,intresting that her husbands carrear as an ambasador ended in 1998 then she was outed in 2003,,,,,,,,wow looks as if someone in the bush administration had a few irons in the fire,,,i wonder if one of those included the longest running cia director Tenet oh and there it is again 1997-2004 now i wonder what happend in 1997, just a hunch as to a few things that changed behind the scene's only known to myself and those that went against me, my family, and the Templar's by installing a group of retired military egotist's into the USA Templar's,,,how do i know well it was my grandfather who die around that time as well as my father, my grandfather was a very high level Templar as well as i am one of the One's that is to be protected by the Knight's not used and abused like they have done on the west coast,,,,then to boot finding out around 2002 that back in 1997 it was made public knowledge as to who my family realy is,,,so why are there so many hole's and why are we finding alot of hole's of evil nature in society,,,,,,,,,another intersting phenomenom is that i find that people that relize that by messing with me certain strange karma happends yet they get monetary rewards,,,yet when im helped they have goood karma as far as health and life,,,maybe thats the problem i dont pay with riche's, i gues i could pay a dollar a month to 800 people and have enough left over to by myself a cup of coffee a day,,,,,but it is a bit entertaining because it does remind me of a few movie's i saw the only diffence is the special effect's yet if i condense alot of it and add a bit of artistic licensing im sure i could at least sqeek out a few million in movie revenue's,,,,,,,,,oh ya what about the new King Arthur movie that came out around 5 year's ago coicedence i dont think so,,,the diffence is that im my last mission and i found myself just as in the movie on one las mission to save a young boy that is to be a leader, like i said artistic licensing, especialy if ya studied a bit about the family of the Pendragons and find that the movie is a compilation of the Patriarchs/Kings of the Pendragon's bloodline and some of there exploite's and adventure's,,,and who know's maybe the movie woke up the current Pendragon to who he realy is and was,,,a few things stuck out for me one was when one of Merlyns men a woad thought it an honor to die by arthur's hand and saw it as a blessing in a sense(i have seen this in my own life a man on his knee's actualy wanting and prefering that i do that, i did not and i could see his disapointment) but that is another story and topic

[kimball13]

this thread is amazing.i usally get board of long drawn out threads but this is an exeption.kimball13,you should put all this info in book form.
alot of the things you are saying,confirm what i have found out through my own research.im looking forward to yur future post.

a few questions if you dont mind.

how inflauential is kabbalah?is it the main source of masonic ritual?
in numerology,does the event determine the numbers or do the numbers dictate the event?
are you familiar with the writings of manly palmer hall and if so,how close to the truth does he get?

when you speak of God.are you refering to the God of Abraham,Issac and Jacob or a gnostic,rosicrucian interpretation of God?

it apears alot, and as to hall they are closer than i like, and i know more than most, i used to have a book Titled Your amazing power's, basicly it was what the secret is based on, and it is another example of some taking something not understood and just like little bratts they all thought they now better that those born to it,,,,,maybe that is why such thing came to public knowledge durring my life time, they had to have so many to keep me fcked up that sooner or later someone was going to write or teach about it and now the world is where it is now then there are those that basicly take there stench and replace it with someone else's innocents and now ya know why people revicitmize a rape victim sometimes,, to put it in its basic in a nut shell as to the point i can get,,,damit side bar's again about a topic i mentioned earleir, but the more light is shed on such truth's the more this atrocity will be reversed and the guilty will be known and the innocent will no longer cary the shame of the evil one's
To be completely honest all the above and then none of it,,,,think of the tower of babel and not only language being separated but everything that create's culture and human society includeing the understanding of what and who God is and is not, we almost where there but in a sense we thought we could do the rest on our own so to speak,,,but i also want to make it clear that i and some did not agree and advised against the construction of such a thing, i should say the archetect of that structure could be said to be Lucifer in a sense and the tower itself was Atlantis:eek:im sure thats going to piss a few people of that think they know what the storie's of atlantis and the towere where about,,,,do you realy think that such a structure would be in one place and cause such an almost complet erasure from history(and for the record i say it pointedly for those that have joined some secret soiciety and think they are privy to certain arcane knowlege, i have found more insight at the mental health ward at time's,,,and i am gratefull for the supprort from other forum member's it doe's help because there are many around me that are of more hinderance than anything else and most of them emebeded themselve's in my life in one way or another, then there are those to that are manipulated to mess with me and that is where the sticky tricky situations come into play because i see that some of them are desent people and i like them but they get manipulated into fcking with me in a myriad of ways,,,of which the most recent is an illigal rent increas of a third more of my current rent as well as some very illegaly worded legal documents according to very comon civil rights according to equal right's, talk about reverse discrimination just because im a heterosexual male,,,,,,,,,,,...........

so not to go of topic to much here i will just say what they have done is the pot and kettle have tried to call the Fire black,,,so there is a reason why i am a Chief of the fire or a Fire chief through the Lakota traditions located right in the Heart of america, it would apear as if God sent me to the Lakota to learn from the people of this continent, you see i also learned a bit of the Apache ways to,,so combine that with my reading the bible since childhood on my own and my bloodline, and for those that havent followed this thread my life experences,,,,i have only made claims based on what other's have said directly to me combined with what i have found in historical and public records and my experience i do hope that some can see what is insight and what is actual events because i do speak of my insights quite a bit and usualy they can be found in some text somewhere of ancient origin which used to realy freak me out big time but after i realized im freaking out some so called secret society guys more than myself ive calmed down because that tells me that i know more about the truth than they and they know it, gues they lost a few books along the way and stopped seeking the truth and became comfortable in there material wealth instead of keeping the code above all,,,,heck most of there name's speak of the code they are to uphold especial when the term Knight is so freely used,,,,,ya Michael Jackson a knight my arse, ya he's obviously paying for his bought title see his health latley,,,let me see who else bought a knighthood from the monarchie in England,,,so what is realy going on Queen,,,was it the beatles collection that was the real price of that title he bought of which im sure is the real reason why he got away with what he did so ya see why im a bit hotheaded about alot of this, ITS BECAUSE CHILDREN ARE BEING HURT by people using seats of power and influence that are not even there's by birthright or by earning it it is becoming just like the indulgences sold by the Catholic Church, ya know when ya pay the church to forgive your sins as a ruler for such things as genocide and torture basicaly war crime's type stuff or realy sick stuff like harming children, i guese some preist's thought they could just help themselves to a few indulgensises from what is alway's peaking it's head out of that church, almost like they became what they told other's was alright as long as they paid the church money and material, guese there is a reason why some refuse to take blood money the church is a good example of 30 pieces of silver,,,,so it is the CAtholic church that picked up where judas left of in my opinion,,,and by the way celebasy was not always practiced by the priests, and it was supposed to be peter that the church was to be built on not paul and by the way paul never walked with jesus so maybe paul was just an elaborate ruse or propaganda stearing of the christ movement to better serve rome,,,,i mean common do ya think spying and double agent stuff in anything knew,,,,,,,,i will break it down for those coming in late,,,,when we began to notice God then Came art and interpetaion of art which is where religion stems from a cultural expresion of God, then then spying on neighbors to see whether a threat or not, then a misunderstanding over lets say a woman playing both side's, then a fight, so realy it goe's God, art, religion, spying, a lie, then come's:eek: prostitution and war,,,,,,,,,,,maybe that is why they like to say the oldest profesion is prostitution,,,and again the blame on women, not realy because we could say it was the hunting partie spying on the other tribe, or the animal that led them there or any number of things can be held responsible the point here is let's take a real wide angle close look at this, a bit of a fish eye/insect/eagle/mouse/etc point of veiw for any scientist's or native american's outhere,,,,,,,,,,,............It is common knowledge that almost all art is based on a God or something of life giving origin in all culture's it is usualy only after time and war that art turns a bit dark or cryptic, example it is either the aztecs or mayans i forget which one but because of there later human sacrafice that was done near the end of there culture that coused some artifacts to be mislabeled as to there use one example is a colection bowl built in the side of a temple being first thought to be a blood collector and in actuality was used to put mercury in to reflect certain constellations in the sky, someone actually ran test's go figure someone actually thought wait a minute maybe there was an earlier use for these temple's and some of what was found was for other purposes before there downfall,,,because i dont care who you are or how smart the culture the height of stupidity is when human sacrifice is considered a need the only other thing equal to this type of cultural sickness is the allowed rape of children,,,,sorry to get of topic but in a way it is still on topic, because like i said it is all and none because every culture is responsible, its just that some are written about and some are only now getting into the history books as well as creating more sickness as well as providing parts of the solution,,,,so in reality the only real formal or other knowledge i speak from is found in the bible and native american ceremony's as well as my experience, and i guess to some i also prove that genetic memory is a bit more than some books can contain, and the one's that have some of this info are probley hidden in some vault,,,or one of them causeing a secret society being formed a while ago and then from that stemming alot of other books just from what that one sparked, yet because of people never wanting to admit that they may have read something wrong and have to do a spiritual audit in a sense they just put a quike fix.....alright its 11:52 mayb i should meditate on st daggobert's day, a merovingian Saint to boot so explain how the church can hunt a Saint :eek: gues the truth come's out every year and most overlook the real character of the Vatican and what is realy thinks and doe's to saint's so maybe the vatican is realy the whore:eek: and i dont meen the congregation and maybe a few of the clergy but the vatican is responsible for the church's conduct over all so that is where i personally would like to have a discussion as to there historical actions done to humanity, and basically an unconditional surrender might do to start, not to sound so to the point but hay just based on there hand in thing since just before, durring and after world war 2 is enough to warrant this demand and explanaiton to why they dont list every church as an embassy and every clergy and employee as working for a foreign government or has Rome infiltrated most contrie's to this extent under the radar as well as having the full entitlement of a country....

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oh by the way i burned the book, it has ben the only book i burned for a reason of censorship in a strange and diffent way,,,,that and im sure it was at an unknown cost but what the hay it was on One in 5,000 ever printed and it did speak about atlantis and other things that was basicaly the secret and other thing's of which pissed me of because Hall has a very limited KNowledge and at the time i read it and kept goinf over it i could not believe that i knew more than he and the he was a bit off,,,,,,,,,..........and ya know what i also did it to make sure that an event such as what happend in atlantis doe's not happend again,,,any tsunami's in the past 6 year's or similar thing's,,,,,,ya pike and hall had a bit of knowledge but they still were novices that got ahold of a bit of influence somehow and at one time caused and event along with hitler and other back in the day's of atlantis:eek: sorry to dash some people's romantic dreams of a utopeon atlantis but there were those that were real similar to guy's like that,,,,,and on 06-20-2008 i knew without a doubt i had made the right decision and with the might of God i saw in the sky i knew i had made the right choice

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just another post i started sowhere else that churned into my perception of this crap(sherlock mystery of all mystery's)

maybe i should point out that this game was designed to cause even more conflict when the truth come's out but the only solution is Truth, so ya see the Truth has ben boobytrapped by, let's just use a fitting term, evil.....

a little known truth, 10 million slavic people's rounded up into the concentration camps and murdered, i think the figure i herd of jew's murdered in these camps is 6 million..

now my point is by just bringing that truth up may cause a few slavic people to become angry at a jew, or a jew will get angry about it because of a feeling of being lied to, or his #1 spot for vicimization during the war will be challenged.........

but anyways heres a bit of possible truth for ya that might twist your counter intelligence melon's to a breaking point in the concept of double agent's and religious fanaticism........Some say the Anti-Christ will be from a Mediterranean country/race in other words more than likely slavic:eek: then ya got his enemy and yep he's a jew because i believe the line of David is menetioned, i wonder what race King David was(for that matter King Arthur:eek:),,,,,so instead of quoteing jack nicholson im just going to say i hope you can contribute to TRUTH......

So then there is what some where led to believe about Hitler realy being jewish and or raised by a jewish father or somehting like that yet if realy a Rothchild then what race ws his mother, what are the Rothchild's and of course we find a connection to Carrolingian and Rome from Bavarian orogen, i was wondering were them swedish old crows got there idea for the crow,,,,now i wonder why alot of these royal houses would have a problem whith a pendragon,,,,,,,,,,,oh ya back on topic,,,,i noticed this thread deals with alot of questions' about certain things, so what was the war realy about,,,,,,imagine a demon or devil coming to power or a group of them,,,now why would there be 4 million more slavic people exicuted if one of them may have ben the anti-christ or the father or grandfather of such a being while at the same time killing hebrews almost like herod did,,,,now explain how people on a few diffent side's seem to be in the background makeing deals and treaty's,,,,,,,by the way the ford thing is a set up to frame ford and the real shadey one is Prescott and his steal to both side's then there is the Catholic church and there treaty's with Nazi's that includeded that they not bomb such places like where Steven Hawkins was born(i wonder what thats about), ya place's like Cambridge i believe,..All the way to south america and what's his name that gained sanctuary in a Catholic church escobar back in the mid-evil age's 1989,,,so if we take a step back we will see how cunning baffling and realy there power is only paper and a type of voodoo(celestine insight type stuff),,,,,damit now i gotta say it...

That secret stuff and positive thought change reality jive is dangerouse,,,,,,,,,you must remember when you do that without God making the final decision as to the outcome what happends is you basicaly loose your Soul Sensitivity so ya want to know why alot of people that use the secret type stuff may be outwardly doing good and people love em in a sense but in reality they are loosing there soul connection due to loosing a connection with the source and realying on there own understanding of postitve,,,,,,,sorry even if you exude the most positive attitude and everone adore's ya and ya are putting people into concentration camps or supproting mass genocide sooner or later God is going to drop the Hammer and cut ya with the Sword,,,,just trying to keep it short...........

did ya hear about the last 30 year's of file's from the justice department being given to the holocaust museum.

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so now maybe i should write a book about the secret behind the secret....

realy i was going to write one and call it "Spiritual Matter (matter's)"

anyway ya know how the old storie's of the devil basicaly he give's ya what ya what but there is always that messed up price and garbage involved well ya got it it's pretty much true but those caught up in it realy dont know unless ya point out to them hay, ya sure ya got postive attitude but your actions realy suck litteraly and if your going to do that make yourself usefull:eek:anyway's youve heard of energy vampires right, well youve seen how satisfied and fat people are after a good holiday meal right, not much room for attitude, so how positive and numb do ya think someone is going to be feading of of other people's missfortune/anger/fear/ oh ya usualy what most dont see is the connection between these so called secret worker's and other's being victimized by the system,,,,,,,,,,,yep when you see the reward system at work the way i have the one question i ask myself is doe's every one that recieve's rewards in this way know which action's and such they do that causes another's missfortune and brings them material and social gain,,,to tell you the truth i think some do and by the time they do they are desensitized to what there soul feels, and we know why pain exist's its to tell us when we are harming ourselves and some get this confused with exercise(this is another storie),,,,,,,,,,,so ya there are those create your own reality gifts from guess where,,,imagine people of finite knowledge by createing there own reality they are bumping into other's reality sooner or later, then there are those caught in other's reality and those that choose to give controle of there reality to God and the Holy Spirit to manage with there infinite knowledge and wisdom,,,,,,,,its a bit more complicated but basicaly this is a war between free will and self will,,,,,,,,God=Free will,,,satan=self will,,,,real simple just imagine a spiritual school with bully's and everything else in school, we got good teacher's and bad, school lunch and everything else,,,,,,,,,............That is one reason why i confuse alot of people that are adept in secret type technique's,,,some of them wonder why i dont just be like them and use it to make a comfortable life for myself and give in to the way things are and do what i want,,,,and yes that become's a common trait among some is they start to believe in a perverted form of crowley's do what thou wilt law(ya wilt like a dead flower),,,,,,,,,,,,,i think later on crowley said that people mistook that law he said, he was talking about free will and he should have made it clearer that yes you can do what ya want but there are consequence's,,,oh ya now there is the ww2 connection,,,,,as some speculate Hitler may have ben brainwashed and kept loaded to control him, i wonder if crowley was another one that they controled,,,oooops there is another grail secret as in what that priest found, ya it has to do with manipulateing people especialy those that display the Force(for lack of better term),,,,so let us carrie on,,,damit i wonder who skywalker is, whats with the light saber stuff, ya right cut through anything swords i thought only excalibur could do that:cool: just thought i would lighten the mood and say everything is fine we are in control of you tv,,,i find it hilariose when people ask me if my tv is talking to me, i just gigle because that coment usualy come's from a programed programer,,,,,,,,,,what is scarrier than a programer or contoler,,,a person that controls controlers and make's them program the programer's to deprogam the programer' to deprogam other's so that the one that is deprograming the contolers is deprogramed, talk about a circle jerk,,,,its not that bad but pretty close and almost happend that way,,,,,,by the way even if your programed ya just gotta find you unwritable disk,,,,i believe the mind has four hardrives or is it :eek:5:eek:,,,,to put it simply to access this drive ya gota go though the soul, now ya know why the soul is so important in this war,,,,and if ya loose that access point then the programing is just about irreversible and usually when it reach's that point it means that the person made a conscience choice to sever the soul connection to the central hard-drive,,,,now we all know a bit more how the #5 play's a role in all this as in the five pointed star and the difference between it being upside down and rightside up,,,,i will be glad when this Harry Seldon crap is over:cool:

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just want to see if my signature posts.

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by the way merry Christmas, happy hanukkah, and happy ST Daggobert's day.


any ways i thought i would begin to share some things.

teachings that may jive with ya, with a native american slant a a few world cultural artistic licensing:rolleyes:


where to start,,,,well the begining, the fire and the direction of the West(wehopeyata, where waziyata live's, the direction the risen warrior first came to the people, the place the Elder's and hero's went to prepare to return in this time)

West= The Thunder Beings, power to destroy and sustain life, the imposible becomeing possible, ignorance, Water, where the keeper's of the fire live,,,,,the leader of the four dirrections, this is the direction of life and death,,,,,,,,,,learn these teachings and it is easer to see the multi dimensional layer's in teaching's and other things,,,,this dirrection is also associated with warriors of a more spiritual nature,,,,this is where the hail stone's Crazy Horse painted on himself came from,,,,it is also the direction the risen warrior came from on the painted pony, he told the people to turn there inipi's around to face the east and gave many teaching's then when he died on the fourth day he came to life (resurrected) and rode into the east telling the people he would return from the east, in the last hoof print left by the painted pony was a fire and that is why the fire pit is the shape of a horse shoe and we face our sweet to the east.

now the Fire,,,,A representation of a direct ray of the sun, where the stone's are prepared, where the elder's(stone's) paint there face's to come into the lodge and teach us, the fire is where we leave our sickness, it is where we send the bad mojo(so to speak), it is also where the souls go to prepare to go to heaven(happy hunting grounds),,,,,,there is also an abys between the altar and the fire this is where the lost souls are and that is why only a fire keeper is allowed in this area durring ceremony,,,,,alot of new agers dont like this teaching because it reminds them of church so some teacher's leave that part out of there teaching and just tell the part of the energy imbilical cord from the fire to the lodge which is there but it is much more resilient than you are as far as that area of the abyss is,,,,,,,,,and that is why im stressing this point especialy for those out there pouring sweats,,,,so at least teach the fire keepers this and one of there primary responsibilitys to help souls make it across that abyss and to make sure no lost souls basicly cling on to someone walking in that area between the altar and fire, when you walk in that area you must be doing Gods work if you are just taking a short cut you might get more than you bargained for,,,,,,,ya everyone love's there ears tickeld and be told its a secret you have to wait until you have kissed ass long enough to learn the deaper secrets,,,,,,,dont do that you will hurt yourself,,,, i say tell em the truth about this and that about that and this oh ya most of ya cant:eek: because ya never worked the FIRE, like i said i am a Fire Chief in the native american sense as well as Sundancer,Deacon,Pipe carrier(there's a storie),lodge pourer,cult retrieval, spiritual counselor, enough about my cred's and i have the Scar's to prove it and alot of wannabee's when the try teach me because they think because of my youth and everything ive ben through how can i possibly be so knowlegable about such things yet im a bit pissed lately,ooops im not so pissed anymore and that realy bother's them.........ok back to the fire, working the fire is the begining of learning the lakota ways of prayer, it make's you face your inner most fears and demons(and its great exercise),,,,there is also something that happend that may have caused some to look at me awkward, there was a gathering on the reservation at which the last sweet of the camp is always when we use all the stone's used during the four day's and at time's there are 200-300 stone's ranging usualy from grapefruit size to about basket ball, but every now and then there is a very large one around 100 or so pounds but this time it was one that weighed more than i did and it was RED hot, this fire was so hot i had stone's dripping from the pitch fork i was using, oh ya i used a modified pitch fork with a branch for a handle about 7 feat long so it took alot of muscle controle to manuver the fork and hot stone's into the lodge that was full of people, now mind you i carried 100's of stone's and then one about the mass of my torso and much heavyer red hot and dripping,,for some reason i didnt think anything of it i just put the pitchfork in the fire pulled the boulder out hefted it up balanced it then carried it about 15-20 feet the bent down to get throught the door eased it though the opening about 3-4 feet across into a stone pit about twice as wide and 2 feat deap with about 100 or so stone's in it already, it wasnt until after that myself and a few other realized what i did..

just wanted to share a bit of what i learned from my native brother's and how apreciative i am because i realized that there cerimony wasnt as diluted as most and it unlocked alot of mysterie's ot me about my own heritage and as well as the bible and Christianity,,,,i confirmed a belief i had since childhood about certain things, it was my teacher that called me Merlyn the first day we met,,,i also recieved a name(actualy two),,,basicly as time went on i leared what wehopeyatehmanitahoopahooalowa realy means basicly its the same as Jehoel,,,,,,,,,,,,or that little k13 thingy,,,ive ben told im complicated my answer is imagine that, ive actualy made it as simple as i possibly can at this time, maybe its a good thing that some of it is so complicated but it is a hassle trying to simplifie certain things when all you have to do is listen and forget about the people that abused you for a moment,,,example-what about the crusader's and such what the christians did, my answer is they wernt christians that ran the crusade's and if any of them were they were sorely misled by a non-christian, ya want to talk about what the Sioux did to the Apache twice, after the second time the apache showed the Sioux what happends when ya push one to war,,,and that was before any white man came here,,,,should we talk about the diffence between what the christians did to the native americans and what the Catholic church did to them,,,what about the diffence between how the english and celtic's treated the indians and how the spanish and germans treated them,,,,,,,,,,,so ive spent alot of time just like an apache reading tracks and oh boy are there alot of missreads done by alot of people (sorry to say), so next time someone says something about what the english did to the indians tell them to take another look and they might find the Catholic church and spain as more of a culprit,,,,,,,,,,,,.................:eek::cool::D

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woops, while watching a show about james brown i looked up some info to see if i missed something and low and behold i got some info wrong.

i got a date wrong and misspelled a name, so doe's that discount everything.

i wrote 780 and spelled it pippin
The Merovingian rule was ended in 751 when Pepin the Short formally deposed Childeric III, beginning the Carolingian monarchy.

so i thought in the intest of correcting myself i put this post up.

And by the way i am still a bit upset that Devere chooses to use the name Pendragon on his site to promote the dragon society, as far as im concerned devere and other's are rogue as far as what he calls the dragon bloodline and should not include the Grail family with his to justifie his own ego,,,,,,,,,,,I am of the Grail Line, and we are Know as the family Pendragon to some, should i mention that his last site with tracy twyman is no longer up as well as he has lost certain memberships, it also appears as if Twyman has distanced herself from him since i requested that they remove refernce to my family under the categorie of Pendragons of which he then removed all refernce to the family Pendragon but yet on his knew site he still displaybe the Pendragon name as well as refernce to the Grail family,,......

Ya i know why a couple of witches asked me around 98-99 how could me of all people believe in God and Christ,,,,i guese it is a shocker that to some witche's that practice there ancestal religion the Pendragon/Merovingian/Grail king is also the king of the witche's, which explain how i can tell the diffence between an earth base true spirituality and ego trips,,,,i have never discounted or went against true druidism and such, but if i ask a question and get no answer then i am left to meditate and accept what i am shown until i am shown otherwise,,,,and devere and the like's are on egotrips and althogh they may be of Dragon blood they are only princes and have overstepped ther bounds by attacking a King since his childhood,,,,,,,,,,,,My step-mother was A Druidic priestess, a christian, had a master's in psychology,,,,,,did i mention that i new about remote veiwing while it was still off the books and operational,,,,,,,,,anyways im going to tell you because of a request she made of me i did the best i could to honor it and i know now why she asked this, i dont know whether here motivation was good or not, she requested that i not learn of the Druidic,wiccan, and such ways:eek:instead i went to the bible and native americans as well as what i was shown,,,,,so i refrained from activly seeking certain type's of info ,,,yet it is obiviose that if i had chosen druidism or such i would have ben fed the same crap most christians where being fed,,,,i didnt even realy ever go to church because i noticed at a young age that what they taught and interpeted was diffrent than what was written,,,,,my only formal type training is in native american spirituality which is realy what helped me better understand my bloodline as well as the bible, i think druidism and wicca is beutifull but i feel as if they are just as guilty as alot of christians and such, and this is the Hereditary Grail King speaking, aka Pendragon, aka Cymbeline, also known as the Catuvellauni uniter's of the Celtic people's ...


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'''''''''"Cassivellaunus, who led the resistance to Julius Caesar's first expedition to Britain in 54 BC, is often taken to have belonged to the Catuvellauni. His tribal background is not mentioned by Caesar, but his territory, north of the Thames and to the west of the Trinovantes, corresponds to that later occupied by the Catuvellauni. The extensive earthworks at Devil's Dyke near Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire are thought to have been the tribe's original capital.
Tasciovanus was the first king to mint coins at Verlamion, beginning ca 20 BC. He appears to have expanded his power at the expense of the Trinovantes to the east, as some of his coins, ca 15-10 BC, were minted in their capital Camulodunum (modern Colchester). This advance was given up, possibly under pressure from Rome, and a later series of coins were again minted at Verulamium.
However, Camulodunum was retaken, either by Tasciovanus or by his son Cunobelinus, who succeeded him ca AD 9 and ruled for about thirty years. Little is known of Cunobelinus's life, but his name survived into British legend, culminating in William Shakespeare's play Cymbeline. Geoffrey of Monmouth says he was brought up at the court of Augustus and willingly paid tribute to Rome. Archaeology indicates increased trading and diplomatic links with the Roman Empire. Under Cunobelinus and his family the Catuvellauni appear to have become the dominant power in south-eastern Britain. His brother Epaticcus gained territory to the south and west at the expense of the Atrebates until his death ca AD 35.
Three sons of Cunobelinus are known to history. Adminius, whose power-base appears from his coins to have been in Kent, was exiled by his father shortly before AD 40 according to Suetonius, prompting the emperor Caligula to mount his abortive invasion of Britain. Two other sons, Togodumnus and Caratacus, are named by Dio Cassius. No coins of Togodumnus are known, but Caratacus's rare coins suggest that he followed his uncle Epaticcus in completing the conquest of the lands of the Atrebates. It was the exile of the Atrebatic king, Verica, that prompted Claudius to launch a successful invasion, led by Aulus Plautius, in AD 43.
Dio tells us that by this stage Cunobelinus was dead, and Togodumnus and Caratacus led the initial resistance to the invasion in Kent. They were defeated by Plautius in two crucial battles on the rivers Medway (see Battle of the Medway) and Thames. He also tells us that the Bodunni, a tribe or kingdom who were tributary to the Catuvellauni, switched sides. This may be a misspelling of the Dobunni, who lived in Gloucestershire, and may give an indication of how far Catuvellaunian power extended. Togodumnus died shortly after the battle on the Thames. Plautius halted and sent word for the emperor to join him, and Claudius led the final advance to Camulodunum. The territories of the Catuvellauni became the nucleus of the new Roman province.
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now isnt that intersting the place of Camulodunum maybe sounds like Camelot,,,,,,,,.........

and yes it was my grandpapy that kicke the romans so hard they let him live because even they knew they could not destroy someone of such great integrity and he was,,,,,,,"Caratacus was exhibited as a war-prize as part of a triumphal parade in Rome. He was allowed to make a speech to the Senate, and made such an impression that he and his family were freed and allowed to live in peace in Rome." So it is a bit of family trait to be able to even sway the enemy, as well as never completely surrendering because we know that would be more of an injustice than a retreat

wikipedia" Cunobelinus (also written Kynobellinus, Κυνοβελλίνος in Greek, sometimes abbreviated to Cunobelin) (late 1st century BC - 40s AD) was a historical king in pre-Roman Britain, known from passing mentions by classical historians Suetonius and Dio Cassius, and from his many inscribed coins. He appears to have controlled a substantial portion of south-eastern England, and is called "Britannorum rex" ("king of the Britons") by Suetonius. He also appears in British legend as Cynfelyn, Kymbelinus or Cymbeline, in which form he is the subject of a play by William Shakespeare. His name means "hound of (the god) Belenus" or "shining hound".""""


So in my opinion maybe some of em dont like it when they realy find a grail bloodline,,,,,,,,,that is what these dragons seek they seek the Pendragon,,,,,,i wonder why all they have done is realy go against certain teaching's as well as attack the descendant of well you know who now, there is a dam good reason why that sword can only be truly used by the real Grail king,,,,,,,,,so if it is the grail they seek what do they do with it when they find it,,,,,,,,,,i looks pretty obvious they want to turn it to Luciferianism,,,,,,they never even considerd who the real one is or was,,,,,,,ever hear of an angel by the name

(wikipedia)"Jehoel (Hebrew יהואל, also called Jahoel, Shemuel, Kemuel, and Yaoel) in Jewish Angelology[1] is a member of the Angels of Presence, who mediates the ineffable name of God (see Tetragrammaton). The name Jehoel may have been an early form of Metatron. Jehoel is said to be the chief angel of the Seraphim,[2] and governs heavenly singing. He is responsible for holding in check Leviathan,[3] the monster of evil who will swallow the souls of sinners on Judgement Day.[4](wikipedia)"

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and to answer how me of all people can believe in God, and why even those in secret society's with access to certain knowledge dont know what to do about someone like me, especialy when everything i state can be backed up if you take then time and look, i wasnt going to post this part but what the hay, i would rather suffer from an abundance of integrity than the fall of pride.

there are other reasons why this angel is diffrent,,, he is also known as the heavenly son of man,,,means he has an earthly father so he's half human on dady's side,,,,,,,,,which by the way coincides with a family curse/blessing about a female god/angel of war falling in love with my ancestor ,,,,,so whats that about a sword and all,,,,then there is the anger sinful man has towards this angel, you see he is also the one that had to kick Adam and his people out of the Garden of Eden, he is also the only one that can look at Gods face and sit in the throne room(not on the throne, at his own desk so to speak, and he is not Christ only an Arch-Angel,one of the 7 yet different than the other's) so ya can see why people would be intimidated and why demons and fallen angels alike would be so jealous, imagine the jealousy that lucifer and satan would have towards this angel, then also imagine the authority this angel can call upon after all he is also the leader of the angel's of destruction and life, really the only one that can spit in deaths face other than christ(realy death aint a bad guy, just trying to keep up stereo type's),,,,,,,,,,,.............Here is another funny storie that i think is why the whole storie of Baahl worship in the bible happend now ber with me here.

Jehoel was sitting in the throne room and mosses or someone walks in(memorie is a bit jumbled, but shit so would yours)anyway's jehoel is sitting doing his thing and in walks a human that has done great works and has gained grace to enter the trone room alive, so he thinks jehoel is another God equal to The Lord God and begins to kneel, now jehoel try's to stop him but to late,,,so God explains that he must punish Jehoel to show that God is supreme, Jehoel understands why this must be done and bows and accepts the 60 lashes to show that God is greater than Jehoel, the human also explains why he was mistaken and it is explained to the human that yes Jehoel is the only one allowed to sit in Gods presence as well as the only one that can look dirrectly at God, So now ya know the biblicle name of the guy on the White Horse named faithfull and true(with the mark on the thigh) crazy huh that that slipped by so many theologians,,,oh ya baal is a god little g and he is incharge of the same as jehoel, war and fertility in other words,,,,like some say Jehoel may even be known by the name Metatron the writter of the akashic records, basically Gods secretary,,,who know's maybe i channel Jehoel or who knows maybe i am he, after all he is known as the Heavenly son of Man,,,then there are the stories of the bird tribe's returning, now there is something interesting how would you tell a bird tribe and reptile in human form,,,after all they say there are similarity's,,,,,,,,,,,...........Now i know this all sounds crazy trust me i know,,,,just the suggestions of some that tried to warn me about just what they knew(which was little)sounded extremely crazy to me, yet after to many things hapening to me that were out of the norm for other people or they only had one or two things happend but the amount and frequency of things happening was very alarming as well as the diffent types of experiences and information,,,,,,,,then i got a computer and internet hookup and was injured and having multiple surgeries (with extreme complications)yet with alot of time on my hands and a shit load of unanswered questions so i went online, to bookstore's, and other source's and focused my search on personel issue's specificly, where as before most of my study was involving biblicle and associated material other than a couple masonic and associated books about the grail here and there when a book of those type's caught my eye. My other spiritual study was native american, which is more experiencial and oral teaching storys......
So i narrowed my research i was going to undertake to my personel life and questions about my family history and what that had to do with my current issues, and oh my God look what i found, it all fell into place as well as time frame's and motive, not only in my life time but in history, in name's and experience's, visions and prayers, did i mention two castles in america that have ben taken and missused by greedy people, first one in NH, second in CO, should the next be in Ca or was that done at disney land at the king arthur exhibit, ya they have set up there attempts to control me when i returned, why do you think he had another kimball working for him,,,jealous relative's can be far more harmful than enemy's,,,that all i can make about that and other thing's like the festival held in the UK put on by who Churchill,,,,,you see they are in the bussines and some dont even know it, alot of there cerimony's are for controlling demon's and seeking the help of fallen angels,,,,,,,,,,,,all i can think is they thought that they could do the same thing to me,,,they forgot a few important things for one i never fell from the grace of God, i am not hellspawn, i am of Heaven and Earth birth,,,,ouch i guess they never found the secret to control one of my kind....

But anyways it can be put many ways but it boils down to i dont have a choice, i was born who i am, and there are those that want to claim what is not there's by any means other than ego trips and lie's, i cannot put it any other way,,,,because after all they are calling themselve's grail seeker's as well as claiming grail linage and loyalty to the Grail, i dont see my web site and coven of follower's, where's my paycheck from these books that are missleading,,,,,to put it bluntly that secret found at that church by the preist was what became known as MK-ULTRA and other such crap, there now ya know, a very advanced form of mind control that then trickled to such things in Nazi Germany (ya remember all there archeological digs, looking for more, looking for the source, dummy's also thought blue ment color of eye's and shinning was blonde),,,,,,,,,,,now i dont know why that info was put there and why he didnt destroy it when he found it, that is why he wrote the this is a terrible place above the door,,, what he found was also part of what the church was doing and how they did somethings,,,,ya that info was supposed to go away,,,,i know where it came from and i know why my people stopped using it no matter how bad it got or the temptation,,,,,to put it bluntly when you enslave another in any way you start to lose your soul/heart, yet when you relinquish this control great fear grips you a fealing of everything will be lost so ya hold on and fool yourself into it being right and survival of the fittest,,,,,,,,,,trust me when a person that uses this type of thing is confronted and told to relinquish it they may find grace, yet if they do not then it will be known and when it is taken then there life may go with it and it is God's hands wether there is grace or not,,,,,,,Nazi Germany and Japan found this out in WW2 both were running programs from which MK-Ultra formed,,, the more broadly used one in reality is the Japanese progam called i believe unit 214 or 217 ,,,,the things they did moved the current Japanese leader when he learned of these things to kneel before a shrine the the victims asking for forgiveness, and for an emperor of Japan that is a very very did i say very humble gesturer...

And for the record until 2008 i tried to keep allot of this low-key but after weeks of prayer in june of 2008, there was an answer of lightning on 6-20-08 that sparked nothern california, at that moment i felt all fear about the possibility of the reality of my heritage and what it meant as well as my life experience and it doesnt matter if i dont know what to do, or how to do it, just do it, and realize that it doesnt matter all that matters is that i understand it the best i can even if it sounds crazy like being the returning king arthur legend type stuff, oh then there is all the other stuff dealing with native american prophecy and other's,,,,,,and then the big confuseing question for me is if this is realy me then what the fck, oh ya then there is that little thing that will happen or has, its told that i will be caste out and refused help, i would be denied, i would be the chief cornerstone caste aside thought to be to defective only to be found later to be the CapStone,,,,,oh thats gotta piss a few of in some masonic temple's, ya me the guy some like to call arrogant and a know it all, for you i want to say your kind thinks integrity to be arrogance and evil conniving to be that of a gentleman so get it strait im a bit of an arsehole not arrogant,,,,,,,must be that angelic blood that makes some think im arrogant, ya ever noticed how angels are portrayed, well imagine one with a deap emotional connection with Humanity because he to is human, Noah was a bit like me,remember the story of his birth and how they almost killed him because he had a similar appearance as a nephlim. And who know's maybe that is why they tried to control me or seek my help maybe they thought i was a fallen angel or demon because of something about me....

Now for a bit more honesty, ive known since very early childhood, i remember looking at the Christmas tree at about 6 month's old and thinking the lights reminded me of something in heaven,,,,,,....Then there was my attraction to church's and bible study's as well as conversations about philosophy's and such with men with grey hair, one of em stood out he had a very long beard and hair almost like merlins, he and i use to sit for hours talking about the world, he had told me he traveled the world 8 time's,,,,,,but always since i can remember we never lived in the same place for more than a year until i moved out did they stop moving yet no matter how hard i try i still end up moving, although in the past 6 years that has slowed down ive only move 3 time's yet i may be moveing soon,,,,so i have considerd the evidence and life experience as well as the vast research other have done and this is what i came up with to my suprise, it still troubles me a bit but i have a strange sense about truth and lie's,,,,ive found when i accept this stuff i am fine, my gut and heart arnt in turmoil, yet when i deny it and either disbelieve it all or down grade it to just someone fcking with me or even jus mk-ultra stuff i get all wacky but when i accept my heritage then i find a calm in any storm,,,,and by the way i was wondering why i was getting physical stomach cramps(GAZA),,,,,,any way like i said i have a reaction to lie's and when i lie to myself i get certain anxiety attacks almost like im loosing my true self, which explains why the extreem feeling of anxiety,,,,,ive even tried to put it behind me and move on but then the attacks get worse(im talking actual attacks on my finances,education,reputation, and such)as well as this stuff gets shove back in my face, one example was the movie King Arthur(2004), then the book Templar Paper's that confirmed my suspicions that the USA Templars had gone rogue back in 1997, go figure the same year it went public as to who the Pendragon bloodline was realy, imagine all the people that falsely gained title's lands money's influence authority having to give it back and then what if its found out that some of them knew who the rightful heir was and they hindered him and sabotaged portions of his life so as to steal his accomplishments or stop him from accomplishing anything, ya they stold a shite load of information from me since childhood,,,,,,,,,,imagine what you would do if you had someone that may be or channels Jehoel Metatron Kemuel since birth, talk about a hot potato and there ya go, imagine the secret society's trying to figure out what to do with me, im sure they didnt want me to learn to much or i might find something out, so ya there ya go, now you and i know why ive ben helped and hinderd by all side's,,,,ive ben assisted by shriner's, templars, a knight of st john,,,,,,,actualy the only one's that kept there distance up until the attemted murder in a hospital where the Catholic church and the knight of Malta, so there ya go those two have only ever done myself and my family harm,,,,,,,,,,yet i dont know about the st john guy because i was almost mugged right after because someone dirrected me to part of the airport in the middle of the night and luckly i woke up just as the guy was going to go in, my eye's opend just as he took the first step with a sap in hand to knock me out in my sleep, but then again after i moved i woke up later in the airport terminal next to a submariner(it was weird seeing navy in colorado) and i was almost sleeping on his shoulder,,,but then again if ya bin in navy im sure you may recognize the name so it realy didnt surpise me to much, i guese there are certain vibes that reverberate in strange ways..........

so to clear up a few things i want you to know it was rogue marines that may have taken part in certain units that were order to perform and become satanists(trust me i was told this by one) There is a history of the military exploring certain spiritual paths, the army used native american ways and other such things, and so did the marines but some even went darker into taboo ways from the cultures the were looking into, and they learned how to do certain things and find military aplications, idiots didnt realize that hay if you do that you are doing something evil, we see the good stuff works why screw with that taboo stuff,,,ooohhhh yaaa ya want to control and make sure there is no disorder berfore you stop killing and you guys are so orderly when your drunk so who are you,,,,,now here is another connection quintico and cia, fbi and marine corps intel school same place,,,now let me see if wee look at them all, ya got a cross dressing founder that needed to get the dirt on everyone and had dealings with Prescott Bush and his only competition was the CIA so how do ya get to them, well ya dangle a treat like eager patriotic trained recruit's from the marine corps anyways this also has to do with the drug war that began around 1880 here is the Quantico wikipedia info and although they may not be all corrupt it has raised great suspicion for me due to having a large number of retired marines around certain time's and Lafosse's ambassador being a retired intel officer of the marine corps
Marine Corps Base Quantico is a major United States Marine Corps training base located near Triangle, Virginia, covering nearly 100 square miles (260 km2) in southern Prince William County, northern Stafford County, and southeastern Fauquier County. The base is known as the "Crossroads of the Marine Corps."
The Corps's Combat Development Command, which develops strategies for Marine combat and makes up most of the community of over 12,000 military and civilian personnel (including families) is based here. It has a budget of around $300 million and is the home of the Marine Corps Officer Candidates School. The Marine Corps Research Center at Quantico pursues equipment research and development, especially telecommunications, for the Marine Corps.
The FBI Academy, the principal research and training facility of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the principal training facility for the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), are also located on the base.


So in reality after looking at all of this it boils down to a war that never realy had border's and country's it is spiritual and the first world war is still going on there was never a 2nd world war, unless you want to say that the transition from the drug war starting in 1880 to the war on terror begining on 2001,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and it is rogue marine's that continued to practice what they learned that i have a problem with,,,i do pray that they shut those programs down that used certain taboo practices. And my focus is only because it seams that a number of my abuser's and baby siter's are retired marine's and feds of one type or another so:eek:

They thought i would become very dangerouse if i had nothing to lose or i would just commit suicide they never thought that what i had was already mine and i could not ever lose it,,,,,,some never realized well i never realy had anything material so i never had anything to lose to make me dangerouse so there go's another one of there great arguments as well as the greed argument and many other thing they have accused me of and all the while it is shown that it is they that have greed and arrogance(madoff), and im the greedy arrogant one huh, i do hope he and a few others are enough of an example of the phycological profile of these type's, i meen shit its all over the news, just look at em and think of how wrong we all have ben about what is greed and arrogance realy compared to integrity and conservatorship,,,,,,,,,,,but hay ive just listend to so many storys that someone brags about just paying there bills and driving a fancy car and they havent beaten the kid in a year or shoot up,,,now dont get me wrong progress is great but why are we all rewarding people for doing what they should just do, like change the diaper instead of shootin up, and instead why not put the extra kudo's and resorces towards good works,,,,,,,,its like society is paying the patients and letting the doctors starve,,,,,,,,,,,,case in point about people supporting the sicko's,,,,,,why is it that most pedophiles are well to do or at least without want, evidence on the news show about them busting them threw the internet and setting a house up for a sting and to interveiw the sicko , and ya know one thing that stuck out other than they tried to act the humble timid non assuming guy, clean cut, and drove a decent if not nice ride and had a good job and some even family's and school teacher's so how much doe's society support the evil that some do,,,,,,,,God forbid if ya got long hair and listen to Rock or rap, ohno what ifyour gay or strait even,,,,because dont you know that if your strait and someone fucked with you to much that means automatically you going to do what was done to you so dont let them know that one kid you know as a child kicked your ass and if you tell em he happend to be black they will attomatilcy label you a racist,,,,,,,,,,funny story the only one that kicked my ass as a child or realy ever accept when drunk was my step-dad and by the way someone thought he was black because of my little brother's hair, actualy my step-dad is italian ,,,ya i was attacked by a man that was a drug and alcohol counselor because he thought he could get away with it and say that i was a racist and he had to defend himself, ya and nobody ever did a thing about it, ya it was funny when i was questioned about it and they said that they thought me to be racist because of my step-father's abuse and then the real doosy they thought my stepdad is black i almost fell out of my chair, i said ya he's got curly hair and blue eye's but he's whiter than me, he italian and Catholic from the bronx and if i can take a punch that is who i ow e for that lesson,,,,,so that is when i first suspected that what was going on had a connection to some ex-masons and retired military he was a marine and kicked out of the masons, his girlfreind was the ex of churchills nephew and the two of them ran the recovery center i went to that my ex-mother lead me to,,,oh yes all of the soap opera drama of a royal family in modern day, i dont even think my ex-mother and that group realy knew until to late then there greed got the best of her and my ex-half-brother's/sister's ya just like King Arthur legends only ive gotta deal with four of em while at the same tim hopeing that at least one of em is ignorant and will mind there bussiness or change there ways,,,,,,,,so now ya know why i have no love for satanism or luciferianism, just lie's and illusions, they blind ya with lucy's light and lie to you and tell you its your fault for banging your shin then being tripped by them in the blinding light from lucifer,

[kimball13]

ah fck even i think im crazy when i sit and read it but dam it its the truth to the best of my recolection, and even if ya take the angel stuff away there is still some crazy stuff there, heck ya stripp away all the family heritage stuff along with any spiritual stuff and just leave the hard physical stuff with just my surgerie's ya still got insanity so put it all together and it is even hard for me to look back at it and say yep that is what happend and oh crap looky what its connected to:cool: and i gues with my laguage and explicitive's they sure dont want me doing a press release, but acutauly i already have publice speaking experience and it was to a group of christians, non-christians,wiccans, and an assortment, and guese what i spoke about spirituality, heck i even used the bible and nobody threw tomato's,,,,,,,someone even whispered to me we just want you more normal, my answer is your idea of normal does not work just look around, your normal is wall st, and look at all the cereal killer's and pedophiles they look and sound pretty normal, ya ever hear of BTK,,,then there is Robert Hanssen former head of CI in the fbi up until 2001 when it was found he sold secrets to the russians of which he was head of the russian ci office, so there your normalcy caused us to call back every ci agent in europe,,,,,,,imagine if you had all the name's of the spy's on both side's, imagine what you could do if you formed your own sub-agency within the opposing agency's, with just lists and the right aproach a person could in effect gain access to man power and materials to accomplish certain goals without leaving a trace and if there is one the agency used will clean it up and sweap it under the carpet and cover it up, and everyone involved will figure that it is compartmentalization at work,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,So there is a question why is it that there is never any mention of Robert Hanssen or is it that it happend in 2001 and was beaten in the rating's by the tower's, i mean why did no one thind that maybe he or someone he sold info to had something to do with the planning, i know his expertise was mainly in europe but the coincendence of him getting busted the same year, scarry huh and no one knew a thing about him causeing the largest operative recall of any country in history, imagine all of those out of work spy's, and then those that slipped through the cracks with who know's how much money, information, contacts, suplies etc.


Ya how many rabbit hole's have i ben down well i really dont know,,,,,,another tid bit is robert hanssen is catholic and opus dei as well as his best freind is also and it is this best freind that is also the one that caught him, oh no can it be so, jsut like in the davinci code, opes dei ,,,oyvey,,,so ya it is a bit crazy that most of it is very connected to the Vatican,

Vatican is a Country, a very old one once called Rome, the same.
it has a long history of espionage, blackmail, and framing people and falsely accusing them and murdering them after a kagaroo court. So i consider them a country as they are listed at the UN and because that is the set of right they have, yet they also are a church and ocupy land in many other country's, it is my understanding that such type of property is supposed to be and embassy and the representative's are supposed to be registerd as agents of a foreign government,,,,so in my opinion the Vatican ocupie's lands under false pretense and i feal it should be veiwed as a precursor to an act of war if not already an act of war,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,them is some sneeeeeky freeeeky men in them robe's paw, what the preacher say they is, dont rightly know but one thing is the preacher he say them's not christians any ways, they just act like us.......Ya and there ya go the Vatican is the one responsible for just about every single atrocity carried out in the name of Christianity,,,,so when a person says anything about christians look again and find out if they are catholic or not, and then look and see if any catholics are around and you usualy will find them if not out front they will be lurking in the dark, just like when the first colleges in america where bible college's well they kept finding catholic spy's infiltrateing college's and becoming profesors and changing stuff, ya The Roman Catholic Church from the country Vatican are very good at what they do. I gues i could blame my attitude towards the church to the many time's that church stabbed my ancestors in the back and falsly accused us as well as many other things so lets talk reparation or is that going to cost to much:eek:how many crowns have you stolen huh, ya it speaks of your kind in the Bible you steal crowns and it tells me exactly who and what you are.

[kimball13]

believe me when i say im seriouse when i say cheech for president and chong for vice president,,,,,,that would work according to the stoner God code let me see 20=t and 13=m and ya got thc=t and m=munchee's from t=toking M=maryjanewana come to the joint chief of staff for a bit of adv,,,,,,we will rename congress to THC The High Counsel, this serves many purposes, one is if ya cant understand it stoned then how can you expect everyone else to, second if they fall on the floor laughing it is either a winner or figure dam that would be to much trouble just for money let figure out a better eating contest or better yet how can we get domino's to deliever to Ethiopia as humanitarian aid and it would make them a good comercial(each pizza can save at least 3 live a day),,,,,,,,,,







here is something to think about;

there may be no I in team but there is room for I in tribe so i think i would rather be in a tribe than on a team.

so another interesting ha ha funny someone asked someonoe else i know what new meds is he on, they said ask him and then told them none at all, talk about surpised look on there face, i told them it was those funcking pills causing the real insanity and im the last one they want like that,,,,,,,,ya those pills took alot away from me and replaced it with rage, then nothing but a faint voice deep inside telling me the only way im going to survive is to stop those pills and tell no one until ive completely detoxed and made progress, the progress came quikley so quikly it looked like i was on new meds, and after the DR change and reassessment of my mental health gues what happened, my current diagnosis from two seprate dr office's is diagnosis deferment wich means they are stumped it means they cant find anything there, not even an anger problem, wooops i gues the table's realy have turned because there have ben dr's that have repeatedly misdiagnosed me, so how can i think anything different other than a conspiracy on some level because this kinda malpractice does not go on so long and with so many without someone pulling some strings somewhere to mess with me wellbeing,,,,,,so ya can have your team ahole, i would rather be in a tribe. Or maybe its just against my bloodline to be a team player and more of a tribal member sitting in the counsel of the elders, teams are for sporting events and game's not life, it is the tribe that provides you what you realy need not a team that lasts but a moment in life,,,,,so you see how that book 1984 was right in so many ways as to the effect certain language has, it is the context of the word, like get in the center of the herd to survive and such, be a team player take one for the team,,,, they always say be a team player when they are looking to sacrafice someone for the game, something you never do to a tribal member. Gues im a bit idealistic but hay it must run in the blood and what did you expect from King Arthurs actual greeat grandchild some warm and fluffy kiss ass, ya i would have liked being born 20 years earler and got my groove on in the 60's but then again there was Vietnam and the cold war,,,so how the heck can they say there was a peace movement or summer of love, when did that happend i didnt see any peace moveing in the 60's unless you mean it moved out of the neighborhood and look what came out of that summer of love that lasted threw the 70s with all that freee love and all we then all of a sudden have an aids epidemic and such,,,then there are all the children that grew up not knowing exatly who there biological father is, imagine how many still arnt sure because there mom lets it slipp in a conversation that when she got pregnant with all but one child was durring time's that she was going to allot of orgy's,,,,,,,,hell whats even crazeir is when you get the rare but it happends, twins with different father's, and yes it does happend, imagine the strange connection, and as well each doe's have a trace of the other's father, it is less but it is there, so it is possible to have two diffrent father's. OOOOpps maybe that is another clue about the first Merovingian and the legend about two father's,,,if it can happen with twins how many time's has it happend without anyone knowing with a non twin, what if well you probley know where im going, and the Merove first merovingians mother was supposedly impregnated by her husband and then also the quanttar, i have no idea why i went there and all but what the hay it is science and we often find science explaining how some thing found in mythology and other things may be possible,,,,,,,and ya know the funny thing that i get a kick out of is that if over 90% of the children being born now adays are considered indigo or crystal, the funny ha ha is indigo has ben here the whole time just not all over and for some reason this gene must have some how made it around the world and laid dormant in most families, and now your seeing it in your children now take another look at yourself, you are not being left behind, it is just some of your children display this before you and someday you will see this, it might not be until you child points out that you to are indigo or maybe after you read this you will see yourself as being INDIGO, and if not well be greatfull because you can just kick back and let the next generation fix this mess, and indigos respect there elder's so dont be suprised if an idigo corrects you and tells you that if he did not respect you he would let you continue to make the same foolish mistake's createing crap until you completely flopped on you face then the indigo might come up and ask you if you learned anything,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya it ought to be interesting to see the advance respect,,,,,,,,goes back to a drunk father with a blanket, ya dont just let him lay there until morning on the couch with his junk hanging out for the neighbors to see but at the same time ya make sure he knows he screwed up and made an arse out ofhimself dancing around naked because he's king of his house, it is his he worked for it and everyone under the roof ows him,,,,i dont know how many time's ive seen this same thing in many diffent settings,,,,, and im sure ive bin that drunk yahoo at times,,,,but there are also those out there that do this everwhere sober, hate to use him as an example but Madoff realy personefie's arrogance towards those of influence as well as the hard worker's and those helped by charity's...

[kimball13]

just like to see if your paying attention, and no im not pulling your leg but at the same time if i dont put it in the light of humor or mythologie it looses something,,,,alot of it has to do with the fact that certain things cant be described other than what they are no matter how fantastic it sounds......

[kimball13]

to start here is an article about Devere on Redice creations radio

http://www.redicecreations.com/news/2004/12dec/deveredrakenberg.html


and now his site, and his dragon society claims
http://www.dragoncourt.net/



The real Dragon Society is listed on wikipedia,Dragon Society - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Dragon Society or Society of Dragons is a secret society of senior men at Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire, United States. The group's membership and organizational structure are unknown. Dragon was founded in 1898 and continues to operate as of 2008.


and then there are the site's that say King Arthur the once and furure king is the ant-christ,,,,they are sorely missinformed on that part,,,,it is the one's that are pretending to possibley be this person King Arthur,,,,so in the interest in correct information it is the work of Devere and other's that has tarnished the Grail bloodline by pretending to be one of mine, to put it bluntly, so here is another website that may contain some correct information but i will say the accusation that it is Arthur that is a false prophet or anti-christ is ludicrous, and has caused me great harm, i have lost freinds and family over this crap, some of them knew of my heritage a bit more than i and they jumped to conclusions based on site's like this that although they didnt say KIMBALL there are people that knew the extent of my bloodlinb before myself,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,basicly because of this they almost killed me, as well as poisoned me, slipped me mickey's
and a number of other things to make my life unbearable,,,,,,,,,,so please get it straight i follow God, look up the guy with the mark on his thigh again, his name is faithfull and true with God's name written on his thigh,,,fcit your dummy's you dont know how to read or something no where doe's it even come close to saying im the anti-christ, if anything im Christ's General, get it straight, or you will end up like madoff and a few other's:eek: and trust me it took alot for me to come forward because of all ive ben through then coming across this stuff realy peeved me because it was like great, if i claim my birthright ive gotta deal with people going on false info about Arthur being hellspawn,,,,so here ya go another link


(http://www.grailcode.net/)


how does that tactic go again beat the bushe's until the prey come's running out, or starve the enemy out of there fox hole's,,,,,,sometime's the simplest cheapest tactics work and the internet is great for this type stuff, because it was used by these individuals some missled and other's intentionaly,,,,,,,i do believe i gave the one's missled enough time to do what they need to to correct certain thing's, oooppss is it possible that one of em may have ben connected to certain finacial institutions involved in such a venture which if they succeded would have in effect given certain corporations and special interest groups a front door access to certain meeting's, not like anyone ever tried that before,,,,,na not like it fits the Vatican's MO of takeover or anything, woops i guese you guys never caught on what i was realy studing all that time with the native americans,,,,,,,,maybe i was studieng the most recent takeover and negitive influence they did here in america to the Indians and the tactics and results of there actions, you see i was suspicious especialy when i read about there infiltration of the early puritans in america and how they got right into the bible college's and became professors in order to either recruit other spy's or to turn people away from God,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,looks like they bit of more than they could chew, i wonder who that could be:rolleyes:

stayed stoooned to the same kalki channel same kalki time,,,,,,,,,by the way did ya know the cia did studie's on the maryjane:eek:and all the good things said about it are true,,,and to tell you the truth short term memorie loss give's you time to think without somuch clutter,,,,kinda like shutting down a few computer programs to run a bigger one or to speed up the system for better performance,,,,,,,,enough about that i dont want to create a huge society base on being stoned, although it would be more peacfull and loveing yet i wonder if we could grow enough food for mass munchie's, dam that would probley solve world hunger, tv would be like Cheech and Chong on the nightly news with weather reports from bob and doug mckenzie taking hit's out of a bong filled with bear then bear bonging the bong beer water,,,,,,,,,so would it realy be so bad to go from this alcolic stupor behing the wheel running people over crap was switched to the guy driveing a bit slower because he's stoned and is being carefull and enjoying the scenery,,,,,,,,,,oh i could go on about how through history pramasuticle's and such have ben switching what God has provided,, with stuff like 151 rum and speed, God forbid you chew on a leaf for high altitude or smoke a blunt after a hard days work to help with digestion...........woops did i go off topic or am i realy still on topic, its just such a broad topic,,,,,,,,this whole shite storm,,,,,,,,but hay i gues some want to drink menstral fluid as cerimony like devere says he did, that arse doesnt have a clue what STarfire is, it is not menstal fluid, jeeeeessszzzz, that is a voodoo thing if ya want to know it has to do with a slave/love potion :eek: boy did his momy fool him,,,oh ya he also in one of his interveiws mentions about momy giveing him her menstal fluid, i may have heard it wrong but i think that is what he said ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

[kimball13]

just some background on the sarmatian connection, who knows realy

Wikipedia;
The Sarmatians, Sarmatae or Sauromatae (Old Iranian Sarumatah 'archer'[1], Greek: Σαρμάτες) were a people of Iranic origin[2][1]. Mentioned by classical authors, they migrated from Central Asia to the Ural Mountains around fifth century B.C. and eventually settled in most of southern European Russia, Ukraine, and the eastern Balkans.In a recent excavation of Sarmatian sites by Dr. Jeannine Davis-Kimball, a tomb was found wherein female warriors were buried, thus lending some credence to the myths about the Amazons. Amazons are reported as Sauromatae wives.
In Hungary a great Late Sarmatian pottery center was reportedly unearthed between 2001-2006 near Budapest, in Üllő5 archaeological site. Typical gray, granular Üllő5 ceramics forms a distinct group of Sarmatian pottery found everywhere in the north-central part of the Great Hungarian Plain region, indicating a lively trading activity. A recent paper on the study of glass beads found in Sarmatian graves suggests wide cultural and trade links.[14]
Those Sarmatians, being in the early Iranian range of south Russia, were probably Iranian people akin to the Scythians/Saka. The numerous Iranian personal names in the Greek inscriptions from the Black Sea Coast indicate that the Sarmatians there spoke a north-eastern Iranian dialect related to Sogdian and Ossetic.
Like the Scythians, Sarmatians were of Caucasian appearance; before the arrival of the Huns it is thought that few of the western steppe peoples had Asiatic or Turco-Mongol features.[15]
elow is a list of tribes considered by various ancient writers to be among the people called Sarmatian, or to be in territory considered Sarmatian.[16] Note that the political and ethnic affiliations of the Sarmatians as well as their territory varied somewhat over the centuries. Authors do not all identify the same tribes.
Abii, Achaei, Acibi, Agathyrsi, Agoritae, Alans (Alauni, Halani, Alanorsi), Alontae, Amadoci, Amaxobi, Amazones, Anartophracti, Antae, Aorsi (Adorsi, Alanorsi), Arichi, Arsietae, Asaei, Aspurgiani, Atmoni, Avarini
Basilici, Basternae, Biessi, Bosporani, Bodini, Borusci, Burgiones
Carbones, Careotae, Cariones, Carpians, Caucasii, Cercetae, Chaenides, Choroatos, Chuni, Cimmerians, Costoboci, Conapseni
Diduri
Exobygitae
Fenni (Tacitus was not sure if Fenni were Sarmatians or Germanic people)
Galactophagi, Galindae, Gelones, Gerri, Gevini, Greater Venedae, Gythones
Hamaksoikoi, Heniochi, Hippemolgi, Hippophagi, Hippopodes, Hyperboreans, Horouathos or Horouatos
Iaxamatae, Iazyges, Igylliones, Isondae
Materi, Melanchlaeni or Melanchlani, Metibi, Modoca, Mysi
Nasci, Navari, Nesioti
Ombrones, Ophlones, Orinei, Osili, Ossi
Pagyritae, Perierbidi, Peucini, Piengitae, Phrungundiones, Phthirophagi, Psessi
Rheucanali, Rhoxolani
Saboci, Sacani, Saii, Sargati, Savari, Scythian Alani, Senaraei, Serboi, Sidoni, Siraces, Stavani, Sturni, Suani, Suanocolchi, Suardeni, Sudini, Sulones
Taïphali, Tanaitae, Tauroscythae, Thatemeotae, Tigri, Toreccadae, Transmontani, Tusci, Tyrambae, Tyrangitae
Udae
Vali, Veltae, Venedae, Vibiones
Zacatae, Zinchi

Since there is the theory that the linguistic descendants of the Sarmatians are the Ossetians
(contrary to, at that time completely unknown genetic data), one may include the three following theories for the origin of the name:
Dumezil: oss. saw (black) scr. róman- (fur), oss tae (plural marker)
Abaev: oss. saw (black) oss arm (arm), oss tae (plural marker)
Christol: *sarumant (archer) from scr. saru (arrow)
The Indo-European root, which is the *ĝerh2- of Julius Pokorny, "old", opens out exciting speculations. The word Greek, Latin Graeci, is from the same root, originating from an obscure Balkan tribe, the Graioi, which the ancients took to be "the old ones." In the area of Sauro-matae lived Ma-zurian. If zur(zar -sun) is similar to saur (sol -sun) then is also related to water founded 'zur niesiemy zur', vedi vodi or (sola sla). Graroi, given ż<>g<>h may be related to Żaroi Graroi Haroy Harian Hurian or even Hunga till today sing as Ha'Hary, Compare the war cray Hurra of people from this area. Sarmatian is the satem equivalent of centum Greek.It must be noted here that Αέρα ( AERA ) is the Greek battle cry to this day. A genetic commonality would require an original satem word in Proto-Indo-European. Such a connection is speculative at this point.
The numerous Iranian personal names in the Greek inscriptions from the Black Sea Coast indicate that the Sarmatians spoke a North-Eastern Iranian dialect ancestral to Ossetic (see Scytho-Sarmatian). [17]
"Sarmatian Knights" were prominently featured in the 2004 film King Arthur. The film posited that Arthur was a Roman officer with a Roman father and Briton mother origin. This was based on the Sarmatian connection hypothesis of Littleton and Thomas, who pointed out in 1978 that many Arthurian legends have surviving parallels among the Ossetians, and that Marcus Aurelius planted a Sarmatian colony of cataphracts (i.e., heavily armoured cavalry) in Roman Britain.
Edward Gibbon's "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" devotes several chapters to the series of skirmishes and minor wars between the Sarmatians and Roman legions during the first few centuries AD, and includes the dubious footnote commenting on the Consul Proculus: "He had taken one hundred Sarmatian virgins. The rest of the story he must relate in his own language: Ex his una nocte decem inivi; omnes tamen, quod in me erat, mulieres intra dies quindecim reddidi."[18]
Sarmatian connection
In 1978, C. Scott Littleton and Ann C. Thomas expanded on the ideas of Vasily Abaev and Georges Dumezil and published their theory of a connection between the Sarmatian people and the history and later legend of King Arthur. The Alano-Sarmatians were steppe nomads from what is now southern Ukraine, who fought from horseback with a kontus ('lance'), longsword and bow and carried a shield with a tamga marking, similar to heraldry. They wore scale armour and conical helms, and were known in the 2nd century for their skill as heavy cavalry. In 175, Marcus Aurelius, after defeating the Sarmatian Iazyges tribe during the Marcomannic Wars, forcibly hired 8,000 Sarmatians into Roman service. 5,500 of these recruits were sent to the northern borders of Britain. These men probably settled around their base in modern-day Lancashire, where their descendants were still documented as a "troop of Sarmatian veterans" in 428.[citation needed]
The culture of the Sarmatians is also relevant to the legends of Arthur. Apart from their skill as armoured knights, they held great, near religious, fondness for their swords — their tribal worship was directed at a sword sticking up from the ground, similar to the Sword in the Stone motif. They carried standards in the form of dragons, a symbol also used by Arthur and his father Uther Pendragon.
Proponents of the 'Sarmatian connection' theory also look to the legends of the Sarmatians' descendants for evidence. The Ossetians, an Iranian people from Ossetia, a country in the Caucasus, speak the Ossetic language, the only Sarmatian language still spoken. Arthur means "solar fire" in Ossetic, while London means "standing water."[8] The Ossetian Nart sagas, indigenous epics celebrating the exploits of an ancient tribe of heroes, contain a number of interesting parallels to the Arthurian legends. First, the life of the Nart warrior Batraz is tied to his sword, which must be thrown into the sea at his death. When the wounded Batraz asks his last surviving comrade to do the task for him, his companion tries to fool him twice before finally hurling the weapon into the sea. This is very similar to the tale of Arthur's wondrous sword Excalibur which had to be returned to the Lady of the Lake at his death by his last surviving knight, Bedivere. Like Batraz' friend, Bedivere is reluctant to lose such a wonderful sword and lies to his master twice before finally assenting. Additionally, the Nart heroes, Soslan and Sosryko, collect the beards of vanquished enemies to trim their cloaks, which is the practice of Arthur's enemy Rience. Like Rience, Soslan has one last beard to obtain before his cloak is complete. Two other similar motifs are the Cup of the Narts ("Nartyamonga"), which appeared at feasts, delivered to each person what he liked best to eat, and which was kept by the bravest of the Narts ("Knights"); and the magical woman, dressed in white, associated with water, who helps the hero acquire his sword, similar to the Arthurian Lady of the Lake.
Although they lived hundreds of years too early (the Saxons first came to Britain three centuries later), Lucius Artorius Castus and Sarmatian cavalry may have been remembered in some form, and could have helped to create the basis for the early tales of King Arthur. While most 'Sarmatian connection' supporters tie the origins of the Arthurian legend to Lucius Artorius Castus and his 2nd century cavalry, others suggest that some Sarmatian details, like the Sword in the Stone itself, may have been added later in French romances, possibly entering the tradition as the result of the impact of the Alans on Europe in the fifth century A.D.[citation needed].
However, those who do not accept the Sarmatian connection would argue that the obscurity surrounding Castus makes this identification unlikely, as there seems to be little reason for him to have become a major legendary figure. No Roman historical source actually mentions him, or his alleged exploits in Britain. Nor is there actually any firm evidence that he ever commanded Sarmatians. Also, the greatest resonance of Arthurian tales with Sarmatian ones occur in very late writings, relatively speaking, such as Malory's Le Morte Darthur (when Arthur and his men were already developed into "knights in shining armor") and none appear in the earliest Welsh legends, such as those in the Mabinogion — which lead some to conclude that Sarmatian influence was limited to the development of the tales instead of historical basis, if at all.[9]
The heroes of the 2004 film King Arthur are loosely based on Lucius Artorius Castus and his Sarmatian cavalry. The film's Arthur is a descendant of Artorius and inherits his role of guarding Hadrian's Wall along with a troop of Sarmatian warriors.

[kimball13]

looks like some family's even wrote of there resignation at Arthur's return,,,,,,,,,,and to boot one of em was 10 years before my family's move to america so intersting i gues they must have thought to be rid of us for good,,,,,,,,,uh oh hay Queen what if he's right what if he has a legal stance and uhoh it looks as if there were legal precedence involved to boot,,,,,,,uh oh what if he is actualy the rightfull heir to the arthurian bloodline, uh oh what if people started to believe him,,,,i wonder if i lived in the UK right now what would be happening,,,i do know that since michael loffose went on the run my seat as Prince of Albany is Open, and ya know what ive tried a kilt on before and i look dead sexy,,,,,,another funny is i saw in a tabloid that Camille one of the royals was pushing for the crown to skip charles and go to William, i gues my info about William having more blood than Charles Got around somewhere,,,,,,,wich is true Diana was closet to the crown in sucesion than the Queen herself,and now ya know the real reason why Diana was Killed, when she found out and it would have only ben a matter of time just like with me, so they probley had a choice who to take out, because im sure to many it would come out, so that may be one reason why im still alive, it saddens me what may have ben involved but i do have to look at the time line and that was around the time it was made public as to who the family of the real king arthur is,,,,,,and after looking at it for 6-7 years intensely and everytime i come across stuff like what is pasted below and the legal things done with the Name of Arthur so there is there own arrogance showing just as the drawing of me on Lafosses old site. And maybe the refernce to the grave actualy meens that we still live, as in the Pendragon bloodline still live's and there is a risk of Him coming back to claim his Crown:eek:sorry to be so dramatic, but hay, why be a stuffed shirt

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The possibility of Arthur's return is first mentioned by William of Malmesbury in the early 12th century: "But Arthur’s grave is nowhere seen, whence antiquity of fables still claims that he will return."[1] As Constance Bullock-Davies demonstrated, various non-Welsh sources indicate that this belief in Arthur's eventual messianic return was extremely widespread amongst the Britons from the 12th century onwards. How much earlier than this it existed is still debated – it was often linked to the expulsion of the English and Normans from Britain.[2] This did, in fact, remain a powerful aspect of the Arthurian legend through the medieval period and beyond. So John Lydgate in his Fall of Princes (1431–8) notes the belief that Arthur "shall resorte as lord and sovereyne Out of fayrye and regne in Breteyne" and Philip II of Spain apparently swore, at the time of his marriage to Mary Tudor in 1554, that he would resign the kingdom if Arthur should return.[3]
A number of locations were suggested for where Arthur would actually return from. The earliest-recorded suggestion was Avalon. Geoffrey of Monmouth asserted that Arthur "was mortally wounded" at Camlann but was then carried "to the Isle of Avallon (insulam Auallonis) to be cured of his wounds", with the implication that he would at some point be cured and return therefrom made explicit in Geoffrey's later Vita Merlini.[4] Another tradition held that Arthur was awaiting his return beneath some mountain or hill. First referenced by Gervase of Tilbury in his Otia Imperialia (c.1211), this was maintained in British folklore into the 19th century and Loomis and others have taken it as a tale of Arthur's residence in an underground (as opposed to an overseas) Otherworld.[5] Other less common concepts include the idea that Arthur was absent leading the Wild Hunt, or that he had been turned into a crow or raven.[6]

Medieval politics
The influence of Arthur's legend is not confined to novels, stories and films; the legend of Arthur's messianic return has often been politically influential. On the one hand it seems to have provided a means of rallying Welsh resistance to Anglo-Norman incursions in the 12th century and later. One Anglo-Norman text recounts of the Welsh that "openly they go about saying,... / that in the end they will have it all; / by means of Arthur, they will have it back... / They will call it Britain again."[11] It may be that such references as this reflect a post-Galfridian Welsh belief that Arthur ought to be associated with the "Mab Darogan" ("Son of Prophecy"), a messianic figure of the Welsh prophetic tradition who would repel the enemies of the Welsh and who was often identified with heroes such as Cadwaladr, "Owain" (Owain Lawgoch and Owain Glyndŵr in Welsh prophetic verse.[12] However, as Oliver Padel has noted, no example of a Welsh prophetic poetry telling of Arthur's return to expel the enemies of the Welsh from Britain has survived, which some have seen as troubling and a reason for caution: we must rely on non-Welsh texts (such as the above) for the notion that this was a widespread belief amongst the Welsh from the mid-12th century onwards, along with more debatable evidence such as Henry VII's attempts to associate himself with Arthur when taking the throne, discussed below.[13]
On the other hand, the notion of Arthur's eventual return to rule a united Britain was adopted by the Plantagenet kings to justify their rule.[14] Once King Arthur had been safely pronounced dead and buried at Glastonbury, in an attempt to deflate Welsh dreams of a genuine Arthurian return, the Plantagenets were then able to make ever greater use of Arthur as a political cult to support their dynasty and its ambitions. So, Richard I used his status as the inheritor of Arthur's realm to shore up foreign alliances, giving a sword reputed to be Excalibur to Tancred of Sicily.[15] Similarly, 'Round Tables' – jousting and dancing in imitation of Arthur and his knights – occurred at least 8 times in England between 1242 and 1345, including one held by Edward I in 1284 to celebrate his conquest of Wales and consequent 're-unification' of Arthurian Britain.[16] The Galfridian claim that Arthur conquered Scotland was also used by Edward I to provide legitimacy to his claims of English suzerainty over that region.[17]
Post-medieval politics
The influence of King Arthur on the political machinations of England's kings was not confined to the medieval period: the Tudors also found it expedient to make use of Arthur. In 1485 Henry VII marched through Wales to take the English throne under the banner of the Arthurian Red Dragon, he commissioned genealogies to show his putative decent from Arthur, and named his first-born son Arthur.[18] Later, in the reigns of Henry VIII and Elizabeth, Arthur's career was influential once again, now in providing evidence for supposed historical rights and territories in legal cases that pursued the crown's interests.[19] Whilst the potential for such political usage – wherein the reality of Geoffrey's Arthur and his wide-ranging conquests was accepted and proclaimed by English antiquarians and thus utilised by the crown – naturally declined after the attacks on Geoffrey's Historia by Polydore Vergil and others,[20] Arthur has remained an occasionally politically potent figure through to the present era. In the 20th century, a comparison of John F. Kennedy and his White House with Arthur and Camelot, made by Kennedy's widow, helped consolidate Kennedy's posthumous reputation, with Kennedy even becoming associated with an Arthur-like messianic return in American folklore.[21]

interesting that last reference of Arthur's return was right before my birth

[kimball13]

here's a funny ha ha im probley closer to what my distant ancestor was than most are.

let me see on one side im; Scottish, English, Irish, Apache.
the other side: Croatian, Austrian, ????.
the sad part is im not sure anymore about one side due to recent event's so i can only be sure of one,,,probly the scotch, irish, apache,english,,,,,,this is because as far as family traits and such being more predoment on that side as well as i did not grow up with that side and still have deeply ingrained traits from that side moreso than the one's that raised me, it's confuseing but it was the 60's and 70's,,,,,the only diffence would realy be throw in some Yankton Souix chief blood, which would make me a bastard but it was from another in the female side(dfntmm)yet related, But i am still the only one and since they changed the records so well to keep me from what or in hopes of controleing who,,,,,,,,,,because if i am my cousin or have his right, in other words im my own cousin making me a decendant of Two Chief's as well as the other Crowns,,,,i wonder what that would look like a War-bonnet combined with a Celtic Crown, maybe something like me,,,,,i did not find out who my cousins where until i was already well into my Souix spiritual training,,,,,so maybe i just did it for my cousin, but then there are the lack of picture's about certain things, and if you look at me you may just see a Indian Warrior with the look of King Arthur,,,,,,fucking crazy, but then there is also the Apache, so the two indian tribe's one is well known for its spiritual path the other the art of War, the same is on my European heritage,,,the Arthurian and Merovingian, you can tell by the hair..........i knew for sure that other's knew about the hair because one day i tucked it under my hat(took me 20 minutes) and when someone i thought involved walked up the smile and look of relief on there face was tell tale, then i took my hat off and then the look of defeat was very evedent...

Now how did i realy survive, an old apache trick combined with a bit of arthur to get threw the short hair time,,,,,,,,now what doe's the hair do, my secret for now, but it is the Arthur, Apache things to be fearful of.

Anyway''s,,,,,,,,even if im a bastard or not either way here or there im either a hereditary Chief or King it realy boils down to defeating allot of money, and after everything thats happend concerning money it doe's apear as if money doesn't have the staying power or enough worth to outmatch a King, no matter how much impoverished he finds himself, a true King will always choose the Godly path of poverty to defeat his enemys, if nead be, rather than ally with those that have bean killing his people he will choose a path of insanity just as King David Did..........and rally those of similar nature.

[kimball13]

Philip had "confiscated all the wealth of the order, which he used to pay his debts," said Frale, who has written three books about the Templars. "Had the (order) survived, it's clear that Philip ... would have had to give back all" the wealth.


And by going by what the Vatican has published itself i own them:D oops and they thought i was dead:eek:a another one said if i were real or returned that he would resign his crown

and who is john lackland
http://asv.vatican.va/en/visit/p_nob/doc_transunto_giovanni.htm


and another one yet he is Langland. http://asv.vatican.va/en/visit/p_nob/p_nob_3s_09.htm



so the last true Brittain on the trone, i am the true heir to.

here is a link and a few excerpts

Caratacus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Another tradition, which has remained popular among British Israelites and others, makes Caratacus already a Christian before he came to Rome, Christianity having been brought to Britain by either Joseph of Arimathea or St. Paul, and identifies a number of early Christians as his relatives.[18]

Caratacus is named by Dio Cassius as a son of the Catuvellaunian king Cunobelinus.[1] Based on coin distribution Caratacus appears to have been the protegé of his uncle Epaticcus, who expanded Catuvellaunian power westwards into the territory of the Atrebates.[2] After Epaticcus died ca. 35, the Atrebates, under Verica, regained some of their territory, but it appears Caratacus completed the conquest, as Dio tells us Verica was ousted, fled to Rome and appealed to the emperor Claudius for help. This was the excuse used by Claudius to launch his invasion of Britain in the Summer of 43.
Cunobelinus had died some time before the invasion. Caratacus and his brother Togodumnus led the initial defence of the country against Aulus Plautius's four legions thought to have been around 40,000 men, primarily using guerrilla tactics. They lost much of the south-east after being defeated in two crucial battles on the rivers Medway[3] and Thames. Togodumnus was killed and the Catuvellauni's territories were conquered. Claudius was present in August when his legions marched into Camulodunum, the capital of the Catuvellauni [4], but Caratacus survived and carried on the resistance further west.


Caratacus' memory may have been preserved in medieval British tradition. A genealogy in the Welsh Harleian MS 3859 (ca. 1100) includes the generations "Caratauc map Cinbelin map Teuhant", corresponding, via established processes of language change, to "Caratacus, son of Cunobelinus, son of Tasciovanus", preserving the names of the three historical figures in correct relationship.[11]

Caratacus does not appear in Geoffrey of Monmouth's History of the Kings of Britain (1136), although he appears to correspond to Arviragus, the younger son of Kymbelinus, who continues to resist the Roman invasion after the death of his older brother Guiderius.[12] In Welsh versions his name is Gweirydd, son of Cynfelyn, and his brother is called Gwydyr;[13] the name Arviragus is taken from a poem by Juvenal.[14]

Caradog, son of Bran, who appears in medieval Welsh literature, has also been identified with Caratacus, although nothing in the medieval legend corresponds except his name. He appears in the Mabinogion as a son of Bran the Blessed, who is left in charge of Britain while his father makes war in Ireland, but is overthrown by Caswallawn (the historical Cassivellaunus, who lived a century earlier than Caratacus).[15] The Welsh Triads agree that he was Bran's son, and name two sons, Cawrdaf and Eudaf.[16]


He made such an impression that he was pardoned and allowed to live in peace in Rome. After his liberation, according to Dio Cassius, Caratacus was so impressed by the city of Rome that he said "And can you, then, who have got such possessions and so many of them, covet our poor tents?"[9]

[kimball13]

Cassivellaunus was a historical British chieftain who led the defence against Julius Caesar's second expedition to Britain in 54 BC. He also appears in British legend as Cassibelanus, one of Geoffrey of Monmouth's kings of Britain, and in the Mabinogion and Welsh Triads as Caswallawn, son of Beli Mawr.

Cassivellaunus appears in Geoffrey of Monmouth's 12th century work Historia Regum Britanniae (History of the Kings of Britain), usually spelled Cassibelanus or Cassibelaunus.[5] The younger son of the former king Heli, he becomes king of Britain upon the death of his elder brother Lud, whose own sons Androgeus and Tenvantius are not yet of age. In recompense, Androgeus is made Duke of Kent and Trinovantum (London), and Tenvantius is made Duke of Cornwall.
After his conquest of Gaul, Julius Caesar sets his sights on Britain, and sends a letter to Cassibelanus demanding tribute. Cassibelanus refuses, citing the Britons' and Romans' common Trojan descent (see Brutus of Britain), and Caesar invades at the Thames Estuary. During the fighting, Cassibelanus's brother Nennius encounters Caesar and sustains a severe head wound. Caesar's sword gets stuck in Nennius's shield, and when the two are separated in the mêlée, Nennius throws away his own sword and attacks the Romans with Caesar's, killing many, including the tribune Labienus.[6] The Britons hold firm, and that night Caesar flees back to Gaul. Cassibelanus's celebrations are muted by Nennius's death from his head wound. He is buried with the sword he took from Caesar, which is named Crocea Mors (Yellow Death).
Two years later, Caesar invades again with a larger force. Cassibelanus, forewarned, had planted stakes beneath the waterline of the Thames which gut Caesar's ships, drowning thousands of men. The Romans are once again quickly put to flight.
The leaders of the Britons gather in Trinovantum to thank the gods for their victory with many animal sacrifices and celebrate with sporting events. During a wrestling bout, Cassibelanus's nephew Hirelglas is killed by Androgeus's nephew Cuelinus. Cassibelanus demands that Androgeus turn his nephew over to him for trial, but Androgeus refuses, insisting he should be tried in his own court in Trinovantum. Cassibelanus threatens war, and Androgeus appeals to Caesar for help.
Caesar invades a third time, landing at Richborough. As Cassibelaunus's army meets Caesar's, Androgeus attacks Cassibelaunus from the rear with five thousand men. His line broken, Cassibelanus retreats to a nearby hilltop. After two days siege, Androgeus appeals to Caesar to offer terms. Cassibelanus agrees to pay tribute of three thousand pounds of silver, and he and Caesar become friends.
Six years later, Cassibelanus dies and is buried in York. Androgeus has gone to Rome with Caesar, so Tenvantius succeeds as king of Britain.



Cunobelinus (Shakespeare's Cymbeline), chief of the Catuvellauni and called "Britannorum rex" by Roman historian Suetonius, made Camulodunum his capital after defeating the local Trinobantes. He established a mint there and coins bearing his head are still found occasionally in the area. After his death about 42 AD, his sons fell out with Rome and gave the emperor Claudius the excuse to try to place Britain under Roman rule.

Cassivellaunus, a military leader and possibly chieftain, often associated with the Catuvellauni c. 54 BC
Tasciovanus, c. 20 BC - AD 9
Cunobelinus, AD 9 - AD 40
Togodumnus
Caratacus????????????????????????????????????????? ?Kimball13:rolleyes:

and here is the land of the Tribe Catuvellauni








http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/England_Celtic_tribes_-_South.png

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i believe this list is pre-coin finding, which is also considerd mythical or legendary and by the looks of it Roman Catholic,,,,,,,,and going by the the shakspearian storie's i wonder if shakespear was trying to preserve the true memorie of something...........so lets start with a bit of it and who knows maybe its a bit prophetic...And i wonder if Shekespeare found it in those two 's story's or file's and William Shakespeare based his character on Cymbeline, so why did Geoffrey and other's coverup the real one's from history and the only trace is a vague story that looks like a bad soap opera yet it is a clue to the coverup and almost complete erasure of the True line of Pendragon, why is it so important to continue it to this day............


wiki wiki wikipedia:

Geoffrey's story was incorporated into Raphael Holinshed's Chronicles in 1577,[11] where it was found by William Shakespeare and used as the basis of his romance, Cymbeline. Beyond the name there is virtually nothing in common between the figure of Cymbeline and the historical Cunobelinus. The king, under the influence of his wicked second wife, forbids his daughter Imogen to marry Posthumus Leonatus, a low-born but worthy man, preferring that she marry his boorish stepson Cloten, leading to mistaken identity, jealousy caused by false accusations of infidelity and a war with Rome provoked by the withholding of tribute, again at the instigation of the queen. In the end peace between Britain and Rome is re-established, Cymbeline is reunited with his two sons, Guiderius and Arviragus, who were abducted in childhood by Belarius, a wrongly-banished nobleman. Imogen is reconciled with Postumus, and Cloten and the queen get their just deserts.[12]


now the other list by Geoffrey
wikipedia

Guiderius (Welsh Gwydr)
Arvirargus (or Arviragus)
Marius (Welsh: Mayric)
Coilus
Saint Lucius




Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae (History of the Kings of Britain) and related texts. He can probably be identified as deriving from the historical Togodumnus. Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae (History of the Kings of Britain) and related texts. He can probably be identified as deriving from the historical Togodumnus.Guiderius (Welsh Gwydr) is a legendary British king according Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae (History of the Kings of Britain) and related texts. He can probably be identified as deriving from the historical Togodumnus.
The eldest son of Cymbeline, he succeeds his father to the kingship of Britain. Cymbeline had voluntarily paid tribute to Rome, but Guiderius refused to pay it. The emperor Claudius responded by invading. Claudius and his chief of staff, Lelius Hamo, landed at Portchester, entrenching themselves there while besieging the city. Guiderius conscripted all the men of Britain against Claudius and marched south to meet him in battle. The Britons clashed with the Romans and succeeded so well that the Roman army began retreating to their ships.
Hamo, though, took on British armour and began attacking his own army, urging the Britons to do likewise. Because of this, Hamo was able to get close enough to Guiderius to strike him. Guiderius died then or soon after and was succeeded by his brother Arvirargus, who took over as king during the battle.

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Wikipedia


The Kimbles are a group of English villages to the south of Aylesbury in the county of Buckinghamshire, sitting at the foot of the Chiltern Hills. The three villages are called Great Kimble, Little Kimble and Kimble Wick. The three villages are respectively named after "The Greater village of Cymbeline", "The Lesser village of Cymbeline", and "Cymbeline's farm". Great and Little Kimble is also the name of a civil parish within Wycombe district.

Inside the medieval All Saints' Church in Little Kimble are many original wall paintings depicting scenes from the Bible and from English history. One image that has survived very clearly on the north wall of the nave is of a knight in the Crusades bearing the St George's cross.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a5/Gt_Kimble_Church.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Lt_Kimble_Wallpainting_1.jpg

heres a link about the area it talks about the coins to;Great and Little Kimble - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It is believed that earthworks found on the nearby Beacon Hill that separates the Kimbles from Chequers were the foundations of a hillfort built during the reign of Cymbeline; coins bearing his name have been found in archaeological digs in the area.

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http://asv.vatican.va/home_en.htm

there is a vatican archive i havent gone threw it but looks interesting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i maybe should have put up more links and such earlear but i dont know i just did it, now i think im going to put up more links and such for now but who knows, i found another tread that has good info on this subject matter...........

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i came across something of interest while looking into something in another thread it had to do with Israels minister visiting France durring this war and the comment someone made about Sabbatean/Frankists then i found that Sarkozy is Thessalonikan Sephardi jewish heritage


wiki "The city of Thessaloniki (formerly Salonika) housed a major Jewish community, of Sephardic origin, until the Second World War. It is the only known example of a city in the Jewish diaspora of this size that retained a Jewish majority for centuries.

The Jews' arrival was mostly the result of the Alhambra Decree in 1492, which expelled the Jews of Spain. Thessaloniki's Jews are deeply linked to its history. The influence of this community both culturally and economically was felt throughout the Sephardic world. The community experienced a golden age in the 16th century, and a relative decline until the middle of 19th century.

The History of the Jews of Thessaloniki then took a tragic course during the Nazi regime's implementation of its Final Solution in Greece. This resulted in the near-extermination of the entire community.'''''''''


another intersting note is both my parents name's have a greek origen, or maybe it became a greek origen from a past visit or move there for a while who knows........


wiki' The Alhambra Decree expelled Sephardic Jews from Spain in 1492. Some of these immigrated to Salonica, sometimes after a stop in Portugal or Italy. The Ottoman Empire, based on the Islamic law regarding people of the book (Arabic: ahl al-kitâb), granted protection to Jews as dhimmis, accepted and even encouraged the settlement on its territory of those affected expulsion.

The first Sephardim came in 1492 from Majorca. They were "repentant" returnees to Judaism after their forced conversion to Catholicism.[citation needed] In 1493, Castilians and Sicilians joined them. In subsequent years, other Jews came from those lands and also from Aragon, Valencia, Calabria, Venice, Apulia, Provence and Naples. Later, in 1540, 1560, Jews from Portugal sought refuge in Salonika in response to the political persecution of the marranos. In addition to these Sephardim, a few Ashkenazim arrived from Austria, Transylvania and Hungary. They were sometimes forcibly relocated under the Ottoman policy of "sürgün," following the conquest of land by Suleiman the Magnificent beginning in 1526. Thus Salonika's registers indicate the presence of "Buda Jews" after the conquest of that city by the Turks in 1541.[3][1]

Immigration was great enough that by 1519, the Jews already represented 56% of the population and in 1613, 68%.


The Jews from Salonika saw, from the second half of 19th century, a true rebirth. The regeneration of the Jews came from "Frankos," French Jews who came at the time from Catholic countries, and especially the Jews of Livorno, Italy. This marked a general opening of the Balkans to Western modernists who imported to the Ottoman world new techniques and ideas.

In 1998, King Juan Carlos I of Spain went to to the city, where he paid tribute to the Sephardic Jews [39]. The visit followed one he had undertaken at the synagogue of Madrid in 1992 to commemorate the expulsion of 1492, at which he condemned the decree of expulsion from Spain

At the end of the Second World War, a violent civil war broke out in Greece. It lasted until 1949, with forces in Athens supported by the British opposition to the powerful Communist ELAS. Some of the Jews of Thessaloniki who had escaped deportation took part therein, either within government or in the opposition camp.[36] Among those who had fought in the ELAS, many were victims, like other supporters, of repression, which fell on the country after the government had regained control of the situation.[36]

Among the few survivors of the camps, some chose to return to Greece and others emigrated to Western Europe, America or the Palestine Mandate.[36] They were all faced with great difficulties in surviving , as both Greece and all Europe were in a chaotic state in the immediate aftermath of war. They also suffered discrimination from some Ashkenzi survivors who cast doubt on their Jewishness.[36]

The return to Thessaloniki was a shock. Returnees were often the sole survivors from their families. They returned to find their homes occupied by Christian families who had purchased them from the Germans.[36] Initially, they were housed in synagogues. A Jewish Committee was formed to identify the number of survivors, and obtained a list from the Bank of Greece of 1,800 houses that had been sold to Christians.[36] The new owners were reluctant to surrender their new dwellings, saying they had legally purchased the houses and that they too had suffered from war.[36] When the war ended, the leftwing ELAS, which at the time controlled the city, favored the immediate return of Jewish property to its rightful owners.[37] Four months later, when the new British-supported rightwing government in Athens came to power instead in Thessaloniki , restitution was cumulatively halted. Not only was the government faced with a major housing crisis due to the influx of refugees caused by war, but a number of individuals who had been enriched during the war were also influential in the new rightwing administration, with the government's view to strengthening all anticommunist ties by adopting a more conciliatory approach to any former collaborators. [37].The Jewish Agency denounced such policies of the postwar administration, and pleaded for the cause of the Aliyah Jews [36]. The World Jewish Congress also aided the Jews of the city ; some of the Jews saved from deportation by Greeks chose to convert to Orthodoxy. Some isolated survivors of the camps made the same choice [36]. There were also several marriages among the post-war survivors.[36] One survivor testified:

I returned to a Salonika destroyed. I was hoping to find my adopted brother, but rumor told that he had died of malaria in Lublin. I already knew that my parents had been burned on their first day at the extermination camp of Auschwitz. I was alone. Other prisoners who were with me had nobody either. These days, I am with a young man that I had known in Brussels. We do not separate from each other. We were both survivors of the camps. Shortly after, we married, two refugees who had nothing, there was not even a rabbi to give us the blessing. The director of one of the Jewish schools served as a rabbi and we married, and so I started a new life.[36].












Interesting that the Sephardi jewish were expelled from spain in 1492, same time columbus sailed the ocean blue and he started from spain to.........this is interesting the racial background of thew world player's,,,,,,,i never put much stock in racial backgrounde but after seing this reocur over and over again it is becomeing very clear, coupled with specific years of very interesting events,,,,,,,,,,,,like why were jews kicked out of spain in 1492 the same year the Queen of spain sponsored Columbus, i knew columbus was in legue with something of a dark nature,,,,,,,,,,,So it doe's explain America's founding, the why south america is known as a Nazi rufuge as well as the catholic influence, then ya got the rest of America, it almost looks like it was the whole space race 500+ years ago to colonize this continent, one side took the south-west the other took the north-east,,,,,,,,,,as in side's it is very obviouse ya got jews and those that hate jews and practice genocideal idiocy,,,,,,,so gues what it also apears as if they are good at playing the same side against itself and they just sit back................How poetic North-East vs South-West,,,,,,,,,these directions in both native american and christianity are basicly Heaven-Messiah vs Hell-Satan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thank God my father's side came from the North-East around 500 years ago about 10 years before the first english printing, or was it that we brought the first one the America i forget...........

Any ways when i saw this thread it caught my eye and had me curios, and after looking it confirms volume's,,,,,,,,,and it is good to see the confimation of aribic jews, i just wonder where the idea of an islamic jewish messiah came from(interesting) ,,,,,,,,,,,,it all gels together to nicely consider this threw history who has almost brought destruction to the jew's more than once, who held them captive, who made them pay tribute, answer ROME,,,,,,,,,,now i wonder where rome realy came from as well as where did the Hebrews realy come from...........

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Here is some more cut and paste,,,im trying to show where some may have twisted information and history as well as how interwoven it all is and who is the real enemy as well as find my own roots,,,,,,,,,,,i wonder where the jews came from before egypt and all that head trip,,,,,,,we all pretty much agree Adam, oh wait is it Abraham that is the Patriarch and if so where did he come from then, im get a bit cofused mainly because i think those that wrote books and got people to follow them didnt have a freaking clue, shit at least i did not go down a path of hate to justifie my belief's and why ive had a difficult time i just figured well if its gotta do with me and whatever i may have ben accused of i better at least get an idea, and then i found the hidden parts of family history that were realy public it was some of the secrets that i know that i figured were public and i didnt see the public which looked secret,if that makes sense:confused:

anyways if found this in wikipedia, which supports my claim about certain confusions supporting other claims and such, especialy dealing with genocidal racists

Alfred Rosenberg was a Nazi Party ideologist who supported excavation and the study of provincial Roman Germany. He stated, as a summary of his research and thoughts, that “An individual to whom the tradition of his people and the honor of his people is not a supreme value, has forfeited the right to be protected by that people.” Rosenberg’s prospective on German prehistory led mainly to racist distortion of data, which did not directly apply to the Germanic people. Rosenberg’s book Der Mythos des 20. Jahrhunderts (The Myth of the Twentieth Century) gave support to the concept of a new Germanic religion. Rosenberg’s theory, Weltanschauungswissenschaften, was implicit in the idea that Germany had the right to crush other nations - or even exterminate them - since German culture was "superior". He also tried to prove that the Nordic-Aryans originated in a lost landmass identified with Atlantis, and that Jesus was not a Jew but an Aryan Amorite.[5]

now i ask you doesnt Rosengerg sound jewish as well as a bit familar.

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Secratary of STate Rice is out of breath and freaking out big time, her walk is even labored, she also seemed very fatigueded,,,,,,,,,,in my not so humble opinion im not going to say i told them so but i will say this for public record.

I told them over 6 years ago dont you are mistaken,,, you guys dont know what your doing,,, i cant do that or become that,,, if i do that then all is realy lost,,, trust me on this and know no matter what you do i will not become your idea of what i am,,, i nead help not attacks and manipulations,,, you need me not him/them,,, they are takeing you down a evil path,,,i dont care how fcking crazy i sound,,,, they have attacked me repeatadly because they know im the only one,,, attempts on my life,,, as well as (aprox 6 yearsago) slipping me halucinegenics and setting it in motion to get the DR's to give me meds that screw my mind up and cause emotional durress,,,i need a safe hospital to rocover from injurie's, corrective surgerie's, and detox from syc meds as well as durring this i still can do something just it may be a bit dramtic in verbalization(rough drafts),,,,,but as far as analysts all youve got now are classroom geeks and computer programer's/hackerhunters/etc for analysts in my opinion you need my help and i need yours and i cant stand by like you said and watch and just enjoy life.......................................I told them time and time again i dont know exactly what it is you think i did but i didnt, i was framed to look like i did(basicly they put you in a logic loop trying to bust me, when im clean),i kept telling them over and over again,,,,,,,,,and i dont know exactly why or what but someone stole something from me of great importants and it has something to do with my Father's side and Me...........i wonder why such the frightend exhaustion,,,,we all make mistake's:confused:it wasnt you it was that jackass at xxxx that was to blind or whatever, i will leave it there, there are alot of diffent aspects of this current state of affairs in the world, i realy dont think i have to connect all the dots do i , palestine+israel+:cool:+colorado+socal+neb+retmils pecs+29p+alphebitsoup+EfuckingTC divided by a little shit like:cool:=10 and that is the # of horns on the mfer i want to slam,,,,and who is that little:cool:he must have balls just to survive being around those type's oh and for the record the palestinian group was only associated threw other's as listed,,,,,,,,,,,,doe's someone feal like they have had the enemy thrown at them wearing every uniform there is well the answer is yes, lucky thing is i knew that even if it looked like they were the enemy i stood back and wonderd if the same frame job was done on them to make them apear as a traitor or one that creates terrorists,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I told them over 6 years ago dont you are mistaken,,, you guys dont know what your doing,,, and oh-boy was i fcked with almost died a couple time's as well as tripped hardcore on some halucinegenics i was slipped,,,,,,,seems like since i started to post there have ben changes although painful there was no other choice other than to let it continue, it is a difficult choice let the children be raped or do what you can and knowing that children may get caught in the crossfire, so think about it in the big picture, all of this can go into a cold war state but then what will happen is alot of children will be literaly raped over time, it would take to long to go into the dynamics, but i will leave you with this, imagine the hatred and anger that can be created when a child is raped,,,,,,,,,this goes into some very old and evil war practices, some simple phycology, and under that all is the spiritual.

i want to make it clear it is not my intention to rub anything in i just want to make sure that people understand how many have ben fooled,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The bible states even the Elect will be fooled, the wise made foolish and the foolish made wise

to many of us get wrapped up in justifying why we are the best or the one' s that have the complete truth, my kung fu is better than your savat, well actualy my kung fu(Spiritual Martial Arts) may be better than your Kungfu but that is another story.


i think both need to stand down and let a third party go and disarm everyone or at least get the children out the shit if they want tofight so bad fence both israel and hamas in somewhere and let em have a free for all,,,,,,,,,,

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ive seen alot of historical bait and switch, frame jobs, basilcly handing a murder weopon to someone to get there prints on it, as well as someone stealing it so its trace to the owner to put blame somewhere else and here is my case in point it is also why by the time 1307 rolled around the templars were slaughterd by the vatican, thank God for those loyal souls that stayed behind for generations doing what they could.......and here is my point a man of renouwned that is made to be my hereditary enemy because of Latin Church leader's not mine.................Maybe if those so hot to got to war took time and put a few dates together we might find we have always had the same enemy, maybe that is why both of us still live God will not allow us to destroy one another, look again it was a diffrent knighthood and church as well as well as my people were being led by there enemy as you were missled by that same enemy should i point out who the enemy is and isnt.

1st crusade is way diffrent from 3rd,,,if you recall the first one we helped you people also as well as christians, we even took some muslims into are knighthood and coffindence,


[B]3rd crusade not my family, it was church appointed ruler,Richard Plantagenet/B]


Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb (Arabic: صلاح الدين يوسف بن أيوب‎; Kurdish: سه‌لاحه‌دین ئه‌یوبی Selah'edînê Eyubî; c. 1138 - March 4, 1193), better known as Saladin in medieval Europe, was a Sultan of Egypt and Syria. He was a Kurdish Muslim and led the Islamic opposition to the Third Crusade. At the height of his power, the Ayyubid dynasty he founded ruled over Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Hejaz, and Yemen. He led Muslim resistance to the European Crusaders and eventually recaptured Palestine from the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem. As such, he is a notable figure in Arab, Kurdish, and Muslim culture. Saladin was a strict practitioner of Sunni Islam. He did not maim, kill or retaliate against those whom he defeated,[1][2] with the notable exception of certain events following the Battle of Hattin. His generally chivalrous behaviour was noted by Christian chroniclers, especially in the accounts of the siege of Kerak in Moab.
Hattin and the fall of Jerusalem prompted the Third Crusade, financed in England by a special "Saladin tithe". Richard I of England led Guy's siege of Acre, conquered the city and executed 3000 Muslim prisoners including women and children.[22] Saladin retaliated by killing all Franks captured from August 28 - September 10. Bahā' ad-Dīn writes, "Whilst we were there they brought two Franks to the Sultan (Saladin) who had been made prisoners by the advance guard. He had them beheaded on the spot."[23]
The armies of Saladin engaged in combat with the army of King Richard I of England at the Battle of Arsuf on September 7, 1191, at which Saladin was defeated. All attempts made by Richard the Lionheart to re-take Jerusalem failed. However, Saladin's relationship with Richard was one of chivalrous mutual respect as well as military rivalry. When Richard became ill with fever, Saladin offered the services of his personal physician. Saladin also sent him fresh fruit with snow, to chill the drink, as treatment. At Arsuf, when Richard lost his horse, Saladin sent him two replacements. Richard suggested to Saladin that Palestine, Christian and Muslim, could be united through the marriage of his sister Joan of England, Queen of Sicily to Saladin's brother, and that Jerusalem could be their wedding gift.[citation needed] However, the two men never met face to face and communication was either written or by messenger.
As leaders of their respective factions, the two men came to an agreement in the Treaty of Ramla in 1192, whereby Jerusalem would remain in Muslim hands but would be open to Christian pilgrimages. The treaty reduced the Latin Kingdom to a strip along the coast from Tyre to Jaffa. This treaty was supposed to last three years.


now here is the important part and the diffrence between catholic and christian.
Despite the Crusaders' slaughter when they originally conquered Jerusalem in 1099, Saladin granted amnesty and free passage to all common Catholics and even to the defeated Christian army, as long as they were able to pay the aforementioned ransom (the Greek Orthodox Christians were treated even better, because they often opposed the western Crusaders). An interesting view of Saladin and the world in which he lived is provided by Tariq Ali's novel The Book of Saladin.[25]


and this to shows that the heart tells much about truth, and how after time the truth get lost but the heart remains the same....


In April 1191, a Frankish woman's three month old baby had been stolen from her camp and had been sold on the market. The Franks urged her to approach Saladin herself with her grievance. After Saladin used his own money to buy the child, "he gave it to the mother and she took it; with tears streaming down her face, and hugged it to her breast. The people were watching her and weeping and I (Ibn Shaddad) was standing amongst them. She suckled it for some time and then Saladin ordered a horse to be fetched for her and she went back to camp."[27]

what im trying to show is they attacked islam after they had overthown my kingdoms and other's in Europe, then the remnants of true cristianity were sometimes forced to go to crusade especialy in the 3rd, so they pitted one enemy of there agains the other enemy of theres.

For both the Franks and English, neither was under the rule of there real Kings, the leader's by the 3rd crusade had become mostly church appointed, and when they wanted a change they just did the old devide and couquer routine.....Heck Richard the Loin heart barely spoke english.

Here is whats not in history books,,,,,,,,,Rome by the time they captured my great grandfather had figured out they had reach the maximum area they could hold but they knew they could not hold it indefinitely, so they started to stop using mercinary's or holings and decided they would just get one enemy to attack the other and lend just enough aid to both in the background so they are in everyone's good grace's but especialy the winner, but when they need to they will use what they did for the looser to gane there loyalty to,,,,,,,this way also if the oppressed become the oppesor threw an overthow or such then the Vatican looks good still,,,,,,,,,,,..........You see the vatican makes treatys with men of honor that would die for the code of honor before going back on there word even when the other did, my ancestors were such people, we sacrificed everything just to hold onto our word, and that ment giving up a kingdom at time's..........anywho the vatican also had a habit of placeing forenge kings on thrones and countries to drive into the ground because they knew it is easer to get another race to be cruel someone diffrent,,,,,,,,,,,i wonder why Saladin had mercy for so many, maybe something in his heart told him they were fellow country men from a history long forgotten.......

it must be known, that i tried to go another route other than posting this on a public forum, but after seeking an audience with a church (vatican) official and rectify my situation at the time, it appeared to me that they knew who to talk to as well as contact the proper individuals that may be able help me with certain family issue's concerning an order of Knights, of which i found out were highjacked in 1997 by a group of americans, i realize now that it was the vatican that is most likely the power structure not only behind the knighthood takeover as well as placeing a pretender in my place in scotland, and posibley even in certain religious fringy witch groups, it became very clear they were putting a diffent yahoo in my place for each title they found that was mine by birthright, then they must have felt they hit the mother load in 1997 when they took the Templars after my grandfather and fathers death's as well as the information about the real family of King Arthur(the real kings of briton and england), the real Pendragon, and possibly a Merovingian (frank)maybe even a Dagobert to boot,,,,,,,,,,,so anyways i aproache the Church several time's the last around 2006-2007 and was turned away as well as overhearing the Priest say i think he made me but i was order to not help him(yes that is what he said)!!!!!!!!!ive weighed this out for around 8 years:eek:i knew right when the Towers went down what happend and so did the president,,,,,,,,,,,,,i tried to say something right from the get to someone with a communications channel, when he became suspect i tried another, and another,,,,you see in my life ive met some interesting people,,,,,,,,,then i realized they all were gotten to somehow including my own family,,,,the scary part for them is i knew basically how they did it to allot of em, and i used it,,,,,,,,i call it Pulling a King David, ya know when he playd crazy crazy coup coupe:eek:why do ya think i came up with the KooOW,,,,,,,,,double speak meaning exactly what i mean, not that other speak, Knights of the order of Wakinyan(Thunder), and if you like a coup ))))either by a group or a person, e.g. an intelligence coup, boardroom coup))))double speak contextual, an linguistic oh ya you prefer political and tactical............Gues we might know now if the Pope listens to
God alone or just maybe someone else does to, and who knows maybe he just has a hearing aid on the fritz, and is picking up some jerry springer talk show.


i dont mean to be such a jerk as far as the Vatican is concerned but after all it was tolerable when i thought it was just me, ya know i didnt want to stir it so much because i felt now wasnt the time, i mean what would it do but make serious waves if its true,,,,,then the more i uncoverd the more i found that they have done this to many of my ancestors in more than one place,,,,,and what they stole had more to do with this than i can fathom so i better just keep learning what i can where i can especialy about my family history,,,,,,,,,then with many other things takeing place also and after a whole lotta prayer God sent the sign if asked(((((a bit more than i needed, but maybe not i dont know, its God's will))))))) But stepping into a building with alll blue skies and no weather report about even clouds then about an hour later leaving and when walking out the door i looked up and saw black clouds me and the person i was with found out later that there were 8,000 lightning strikes on june-20-2008,,,,,,,,,,,now it wasnt just this Gideons prayer, but it is also the 7th day after that it is Iraqi independence day as well as my birthday so who knows maybe that is a sign it was saturday that is the sabath:rolleyes: i just thought of the whole sabath thing, but when it dawned on me immediately it was a sign then i realized my birthday was 7 days after as well as I I day(eye eye day, get it both eye's open, iraqi=I and independence=I)))))so i just immediately felt all my fear leave me as well as a very large amount of anger as well as that was the last time i suffered an abnormal anxiety attack, i dont even think ive felt one since realy, but this forum is the closest to a journal ive ever kept, probley a good thing.....
Also explanes why i woke up with extreem stomach cramps over a week ago when i churned on the news it was the Gaza escalation.....................
I am sensitive to certain things, now it may be the pain of both sides i don't know, all i know is my stomach felt impacted and like it was composting in my intestines, then after a bit of meditation i managed it move it threw,,,,,call me crazy whatever but i think its crazy to but how do i know, im looking from inside out and have to turn on the news to look outside in,,,,,,ya maybe its true what they say about King Arthur and such being connected to there land and people, so there's some symbolism for ya my land is constipated, if it includes jerusalem to i dont know, but i do no it includes that island referred to as the UK,,,,,,,i heard there soil is very poluted,,,,,,,,,no wonder i was born with stomach problems, one place is bombing the other is poluteing.......oh ya i wasn't impacted it was literally my empathic stuff in overdrive.

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i know this post may offend some, that is not my intent, if anyone thinks this one post should be deleted ok thats fine, i guese if a band member just happends across this post i want you to know i am not trying to associate you with my beliefs i just realy got allot out of you music and wanted to post that it helped me reach another level of acceptance of certain things and wanted to share your tunes with other's that may find something they need to hear for themselves also........




i dont know how to post music or video's, this band caught my eye for obvious reasons, i found them in one of those moments when your not looking a walla woaw no way how did that happend.

there is some number type stuff going on here, one of the songs was put up the day i joined this forum as well as the lenth of the song being the am/pm time of my birth, then what its about is an eye openner, to tell you the truth this happends way to much sometime's so much i almost shut down,,,,,,,,imagine going threw a day seeing things almost deliberately put there to say weve ben waiting,,,,,,,,,,then there is the name of the poster jogideon as in jo-Gideon :eek: kinda like the Gideon prayer leading up to jun-20-08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eFA4B6P6hU&feature=related


the song i came across first was this one, which then threw the other one in my face also(in a good way),,,,and damit i was hoping for a superman reference but i guess supes best friend is okhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWGVY9Bezoo


reminds me of what dio could have become if he had a bit more of the Bard going on, but dont get me wrong i like Dio to,,,,,,,,,i will tell you this when i listen to dio it reminds me of my brother's and sister's left out in the world alone doing the best they can.

i know this may seem of topic to some, but like i said this took a long time to decide personely,,,what i expected by now was alot of ridicule(as that is what im accustomed to recieving from many), attacked and ignored,,,,,,,this is what ive recieved by many in my personel life form other reasons or maybe the same,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i meen what a mind fuck, wake up one morning while recovering from fractured spine whith the muscle ripped from the spine and one of the largest hemotomad kidneys the Dr's had ever seen, as well as getting ready and recovering from surgerie's and you find out that King Arthur Pendragon not only was/is real but also my great great grandfather and now i may just be me.

when my lakota brother first called me Merlin i was very currios as to why,,,,,,,,,i think i know now, i had to learn what it is like to walk in the world of cerimony like merlin doe's with the native's of were he is,,,,,now who is Merlin, was merlin put on a journey to learn my shoe's as well and if so where is he,,,,after all i do think it is merlin that was Arthur's best friend throughout time.
NOw where are those bards and minstrals, music and storie's are what we realy nead now to better understand what is happening to us all,,,,,,kinda like you do what you do and Merlin, I, and Crew will hopefully do what we do.

i just thought i would keep it simple, i dont want to create a group or following i just want to be me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,actualy i followed alot of you to find me, this includes those that attacked me. Those that attacek led me to the motive which led me to alot of what i posted, gues ya could say ive ben on a quest for over 30 years.........Anyways somewhere alongg the line i just knew when attacked for no obviose cause the best corse of action is survive and find the motive first before any plan or counter is put inot action, so you see every time i tracke an attack i came up with the same answer and another peice of the puzzle...........so realy i had to look up alot of my own personel informatio, it became like my personel life info was the key that kept unlocking the same info online as well as other areas of study, as well as while i wrote this thread i was also learning alot more at a faster pace than over the years, the cullmination of my focus of the past 7 years has come right down to this very point,,,,,,maybe i should look at my posts at the time israel attacked palestine and see if i can unlock something else:rolleyes: This stuff used to scare the crap out of me when i noticed it over the last 30+ years but im learning to accept Gods will.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUWIfefu4wE&NR=1

my post on 23 of dec at 12:43 is very much associated in some very interesting ways, as well as it Being ST. Dagoberts day a day the blockades were opened even though cease fire had lapsed, who knows maybe another party somewhere else is influencing something also, ya know other than some evil cruel money mongering peice of trash that allows good people to be mislead,,,what millitary leader in his right mind attacks his own supply shipments, or is it that someone wanted there own people to starve to turn them into ravenous humans running on pure survival, ya some use sacred geometry to cause this, they draw up social architecture to cause groups of people to go into pure survival mode, make them strong enough to attack anyone that they think is responsible for there suffering an torture,,,,,,,,,,or was it that those supplys would have fed the people and had no weoponizing capacity,,,,,,but when some boat with a former american politician and such trys to break the blockade the hamas and such get all butt hurt because they were stopped,,,,,,,,,well its probley better they were stopped, consider this, if they were not rammed they would have ben open unarmed unprotected potential targets or hostages for hamas,,,,,,,,,,,so why did i burn that book in a cerimony with my Chanupa,,,,,,,notice i no longer have the physical sacred pipe (chanupa, peace pipe)i used to carry, i used it to destroy that book and it is that post that was on dec 23 :eek: and is the image that we want the children to see of there father's and uncles, brother and nephews, sons and grandsons etc, is this the scene we want to see of daddys hug coming home.
http://archive.gulfnews.com/images/08/12/28/28_rg_gaza_ap_5_5.jpg

p.s. this picture is of the conflict in israel, it also reminded me of the sky here back in june.

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oh by the way i burned the book, it has ben the only book i burned for a reason of censorship in a strange and diffent way,,,,that and im sure it was at an unknown cost but what the hay it was on One in 5,000 ever printed and it did speak about atlantis and other things that was basicaly the secret and other thing's of which pissed me of because Hall has a very limited KNowledge and at the time i read it and kept goinf over it i could not believe that i knew more than he and the he was a bit off,,,,,,,,,..........and ya know what i also did it to make sure that an event such as what happend in atlantis doe's not happend again,,,any tsunami's in the past 6 year's or similar thing's,,,,,,ya pike and hall had a bit of knowledge but they still were novices that got ahold of a bit of influence somehow and at one time caused and event along with hitler and other back in the day's of atlantis:eek: sorry to dash some people's romantic dreams of a utopeon atlantis but there were those that were real similar to guy's like that,,,,,and on 06-20-2008 i knew without a doubt i had made the right decision and with the might of God i saw in the sky i knew i had made the right choice


so there you have it, the post before this one was at 11:59 was on the same topic. the one before that on dec-22-2008 is interesting to. It was a month since my last post until these, on nov-25 and that one speaks of some of the phycology involved in all of this,,,,,,,,,,they try to say my fear thats bullshit and they know it,,,,,,,,,,,,some of these secretive society's are afraid of me and they trie to cover it up and say it mine or everyone elses that is causing all of this crap,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,[B]yes i do find the stuff going on in Israel to be my bussines.[B],,,,,,and yes for the record if i had the resorces i would forgo going to school to be there, and for the record this is the first time that i may actualy be able to complete a semester, and i live in america and im a bit in the advanced category for learning and such i wonder why that is, why does it appear as if someone wanted me to be as unedjucated as possible.

[kimball13]

i have realy considerd starting to write real time, as in like what happend today concerning the Coverup........

gues if i stay in the same place long enough they all come sooner or later, i wonder if all 1887 i think was the count, are here,,,,,,i wonder if i did a population analysis on heads of housholds thatmoved ito the area in aprox 4-6 years if that would be close to that number......

I gues them old mk-ultra employees are just allwed to do what theve always done.....

Keep it up and more oaklands are going to happen, the people will not allow it much longer, you fools kept the only one that could make this change easer, away from any means to adjust,,,,,,,,,instead you tortured the very one that could help you and now you are some very sick heartless back in the head shooting aholes. Just look at the news you idiot replaced the real one with pedophiles and such,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how do i know well one of em told me he was with his wife since she was 13, now let me see he is older than i and i am about 15 years older than her so is a pedphile or not,,,,,,,,,,im not talking someone in there early 20's with a 16-17 year old im talking a guy in his 30's with a 13 year old,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and by the way there are alot of 16 year olds that say they are 18 trust me i know i was one that lied about being older, but im a guy thats diffent right, its ok for older women to have sex with me right.................

Now let me see ive had two profesionals tell me and ilude to certain things in the past few days,,,,,,,one thing was about the social isolation they have put me threw my entire life, ya they wanted to know what would happen.
One of the reasons why when it was found that i was who i am they dont want to allow that to be true,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thing is they can send all the pros they want, you know the type like the one today that worked with profiling psychics and the personality makeup,,,,,,,,,,,,oh i forgot to mention that the ones that they use to keep me messed up are usualy a large number of psychics and phycologists,,,,,,,,,,,my step mother was also, and had a masters in phycology .....

So since 1996 on some rv websites and such they have ben diseminating some of my work, as in warnings and phylosophies and such,,,,,,,,,i think oneof them calls me the One................
So it apears as if probley since my childhood they just kept me in a social box, with the life experieces ramped up when they wanted to produce desired effect and iformation to a problem,,,,,,,,,,,ya they used me like a ffucking spiritual search engine.......

am i ashamed or sorry for being used for so long fuck no,,,,,,,,,,,they did it to me since early childhood, ,,,,,,,,,,ya know what Vlad did to those that opposed him saving his people,,,,,,,,,,imagine that being done spiritualy,,,,after all they did it to me as a baby, so payback, not only for me, but everyone, that youve done this stuff to. That is going to hurt, because i never sought revenge for the many things people have done, almost like loading Gods shotgun, i always just figured im not as good a shot as God so i will just give my amo to God and see what he does with it............

Besides im not as foolish as those that used me,,,,,,,,,i let God decide how to use my gifts,,,,,,,,,,,,so i have the good karma of that, and they have the bad karma of hitting my reflexes. I know what happens when i focus it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is not pretty,,,,,,,,,they like me just staying made because the soak in the negitive energy, i just look at them and tell them there will be a price for that,,,,,not of my doing or making but of your own for causing that and consuming that,,,,,,,,it will be that much easer to destroy you now...
Ive seen those people go insane and so fearfull of me that they have to make excuses until there are none to make,,,,,,,,,one of those that used me like a spiritual healing blood bank i saw a few years ago,,,,,,,,,,,,,his spine was disintegrating, he saw me and instantly it was like a junky begging the dealer................i knew what he was asking for and i knew that he was going to try and manipulate it out of me,,,,,,,i also knew that if i told him that i knew he would denie it and make excuses and start the guilt trip and that would actualy make it easer for him to get what he wanted,,,,,,,,,,,anyways at the time i neaded info(im not physic) ,,,,,,so if it ment healing this peice of shit then so be it maybe God will change his heart and i can forget how evil this ahole is.................He made a big mistake because he thought i had no clue and if i had no clue then the World head of the Templars did not also..............He bragged about the change being made to the templar organization turning it evil and into a primarily a war machine............Little did he know i felt the distrubance in the Force back in 1997(not to sound all starwarzi),,,,,,,,,,,,im going to say this again my condolences go to the Marine corps for enduring such cretins as to besmirch your fine service to the people of the world,,,,,,,,,,,but it was a few marines involved that provided intel and such as well as networking with others to manipulate my situations in life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it realy sucks because every day i see at least one of these types now adays, its almost like they called everyone that ever worked on whatever project it is called now,,,,,,,,,i wonder if that coast gaurd navy thing call kimball project has anything to do with it..............................

[kimball13]

lets see what that does,,,,,,,,,,,maybe i should start a cause and effect log when i write anything,,,,,,,,,,i love it when the one's that monitor my typing and what not the go to do what they do and say a few key phrases and then i come home and erase it without posting it,,,,,,post i never put up,,,,,,,,,lets me know in what kinda way im being watched,,,,,,,,,,,,,,imagine if you got a few people watching the same show on diffrent channels and you want to find out which ones are diffrent and then find out what channel that is........


Thing is there are so many gangs and groups of all types that are high tech and info savy as well as know what buttons cause what kinda response,,,,,,ya everybody is afraid of kgb interigations:p,,,,,,,,,,,,it will suck when they find out that im evaluating them not the other way around,,,,,,,,,,you see for some of them they think they are evaluating me for recrutement or interigation or any number of assumtions,,,,,,,,,,,,,but hay Gerald yo know dontcha............

[kimball13]

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/ukiah-daily-journal/TP3EQFSF5FGKDEFRR


i think a few comments of the good citezens of norther california say alot about what is happening here, especialy the simpsons shiiite comments...........


dotnt get me wrong there are a few good people here in all walks of life, but for the most part it is alot of real fat cats with a few foot soldiers in law enforcement and other areas, funny thing is nobody realy has a foothold hear so this and many other things that you would be suprised happen here,, near the bohemian grove,,,,,,,,,,,and alot of good people are getting caught up with alot of diffrent sides,,,,,,,,,,,it creeps me out sometimes to watch it, it took them along time to figure out i dont nead to be under any of there hierarchy's i have my own and i just nead to prove that someone here stole it,,,,,,,,,,did i mention those that did that are from LA,,,,,,one of the last names is the same as an author that wrote all about the Hanssen case.......They realy started to do what they did early on, i realy knew when i found that one of the people that was supposed to be such a good freind was a better freind to my step-father,,,,,,,,,,,around 2003 it was real obviose what his agenda is/was, he was to wrapped up in that Cthulu stuff by crowley or cayce whoever i get themconfused sometimes my bad...........then when i found and old brochure of his and other things i realized he knew about my heritage long before i did, but all those that did wanted me to be Luciferian or satanic because that is what they chose,,,,,,,how could they be so arrogant as to choose for me and to keep me from my birth right because i follow more of a christian path, would make it hard for them huh,,,,,,,,,,,,this way they can keep the myth and throw away the truth when they please as long as im not publicly known about then whoever wants to can use the name Pendragon and such to justify there made up shite. So it would look like Pendragon hasnt taken sides here because well the native's dont trust me much because of the bad press, maybe its the apache blood,,,,,but the Native's do respect me and i do them, some know that i carrie shame for what some of my people have done, even though i have no control or authority, because it was stolen by some retired millitary egotists........It realy pisses me off to see some of my family symbols on some very sick things and people, maybe thats why me and ha have an understanding because red and white (some say silver)was my family collors first, then there is the Gold lion and the Red lion,,,,,,,so you see even the kings in ny took a bit of my stuff,,,,,,,crazy huh seeing bits and peices of my heritage and culture on my european side all over the place that is almost identical,,,,,,,,,,,,,,creeps me the fuck out now i understand exactly why the elder feared certain things using native american names and effigies. Then there is seeing stuff like sir charles barkley, michael jackson, who else make a knight by the queen,,,,,,,,and they say i have shady associates. At least most of my freinds screw up in normal ways, like possesion of less than an ounce, they go to court and show there perscrition and all is well, they paid there $100+ for there yearly perscription and then the fees for grow tags for each plant,,,,,then at times we might be drunk in public(i dont drink,anymore),,,,,,,or then there are the dreaded times that we get hooked up with some chick that seams cool to begin with then the wamy, she's a spead freak and starts going nuts, then to cover here ass she's gotta say your abusive and if no marks then they pull out the mentaly emotionaly and then you labled, even though the gal just gave birth and her blood shows meth the still believer her, all hear say and if your a decent person then they will make you look just as fkced up as they are,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then while the courts are backlogged with alot of false cases the real scewed up ones play the court game and slip threw the cracks and the inocent guy that wins has still lost because it was already printed in the paper,,,,,,,,,,,,,like when i was a victim yet arrested then booked as the abuser because im the male, the paper work even said victim of domestic violence,,,,,,,,,,,,i spent 8 days for being a victime and when i went to arrangment i was handcuffed to a wife murderer, and boy did he talk,,,,,,,,i had to go to counseling at project santuary for the abuse i wen threw because they were worried that i would become an abuser to women because of what happend,,,,,,,,,,so in counseling they asked if there was anything i was angry about,,,,,,,,,so i told them about the crap that came out of the murders mouth and how he said he was getting away with it, so they asked if i would testifie(hay the guy said he would do it again)so i did......And because of that i gained enemys in the mental health industry here localy as well as the public defenders office and maybe portions of the police department,,,,the why of it is my testimony humiliated them, my little uneducated arse sat there and basicly gave them his profile as wellas what he said,,,,,then the laywer tried to discredit me by bringing in a relapse i had at a party so i had a under the influence of a controled substance on my record,,,,,,i had to correct him about the date even while he was looking at the paper,,,,,,,,im usualy easy going and a bit slow moving and sounding sometimes but when i go bussiness heads explode, they cant keep up if i want to lose them and i can loose them with the truth without circles or logic loops,,, so when it is gone over again because they want to make me look dumb or of nefarious agenda they end up just showing there true agenda,,,,,,,,it looks like im a quarter back and i threw the pass 5 seconds ago and the defense still thinks i have the ball and the receiver is already doing the touchdown dance,,,,even though all the penaltys theyve acrude i have a hard time takeing so much advantage of the situation and being so blatantly arrogant about it but hay just trying to make a point, now if i were to be just as arrogant as they (nope cant even imagine that, not good).
And like i keap saying im not Physic,. BUt if i need to i can sneak up on them,,,,,,how much you know about thought projection or remote influencing, what about natural disasters,,,,,,,,ya i know some of them just wanted to know if it was me or someone else doing some of the things they are trying to figure out,,,,,,,,well yes and know, heck i dont even know exatley what is going on half the time, wasnt until i notice people making a big stink about certain things and such and then it was like what the fk that happens all the time around me,,,,,,,,,,,like i said earleir ive lived in a box at times,,,,,,,,,,,,,i do hope thye got alot out of the shows i gave them, i wonder what that did to trow the pyc profile,,,,,,,they should know im a very good method actor, sometimes i forget what charecter you want me to be, sucks to be empathic......so to some yes i do reflect what your looking for maybe that is why you only see what your expecting or what you want to justify you greed.............

[kimball13]

all of the things happening in the rest of the nation in the news has ben happening behind the scenes in this humble little county but dont tell anyone it might hurt tourism and the groovy music scene,,,,,,,,,,,,,why do you think alot of people stay out in the woods stoned, fck having a good time its dangerouse going to get a cup of coffee, at least in the past there were hours but now that everyone is on meth there at it 24/7...........But none of this has to do with cops shooting unarmed people or people shooting unarmed people,,,ive know several people one of em did 165 days for shooting someone around 6 times then running his head over throwing him in the back seat and taking him to the emergency room saying he thought he was an intruder and accidently shot him, maybe i should leave it there after all ive already had a self confessed fbi hitman say he should have taken me out when he had the chance,,,,,,,,same guy that killed judy barry, he gave an interveiw to the anderson valley advertiser and even mentions me by an old nickname,,,,,he also gives a complet confesion and gloats about it all saying he is untouchable:cool:his job isnt that untouchble, i mean if i was spouting all that, i wouldn't work around a landfill, and people think im arrogant and ballsy, hes like one of those guys that pulls the trigger 5 times in russian roulette to prove his manhood, he should have just drifted away in 93, maybe that is why he was wineing in 2003(i think),,,,,,,,,,,,it is impossible to untangle a web once it is tangled, and it is tangled, so gues what it all gets pulled down now.............................Maybe we shouldnt let spiders do anything anymore after alll of this...........................

[kimball13]

Same shit different continent, fck Rome,,,,,,,,i didn't make a treaty this time, so history has repeated itself in some respects,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Rome did the same here that it did to the UK,,,,,,,,i guess i just recognize it, after all it is in my blood to fight these arseholes because they keep trying to take everything over.........Crazy huh, even rome said that they could not be as great as they are without an enemy like my ancestor, he tested there metal to the breaking point, im going to break it!!!!!!!I realy have no choice no matter how much i dont want historical feuds to continue there are some that have always ben the aggressors i have not, now that i have proven that to myself most of all,,,,,,,,,, we will see how Rome holds out,,,,,,,,,,,,my ancestors were masters of leadership and war they were defeated by lies and politics,,,,,so it has taken awhile to get to a point to defeat that with something other than using politics and lies so what is left(religion was already tried/politics and lies).........Did ya think i was going to be like prince valiant, or something how bout little hiippie lord fontleroy, or excuse my bluntness how about the old women should be in charge as long as they are wrapped on my cork, i dont mind being manipulated, i mean layed, oh i mean women are much better leaders than men game,my God if you knew the game some men have ran on the women you would be surprised how many male chauvinist pigs put on tie die and let there hair grow and go get laid,,,,,,,im not going to go into the conditioning that alot went through that passed on to the next generation from the 50's on,,,,,,no im not talking about feminism im talking about the sabatoge of feminism,,,,,,,,do you know the diffrence between AIM and BIA,,,,,american indian movement and bureau of indaian affairs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,kinda like the diffrence between sheryl crow and sara palin.
Now i wonder what they started playing with after ww2,,,,,,,,,,MK-ULTRA

[kimball13]

Thank God a bit of Progress



By PAUL ELIAS, Associated Press Writer – Wed Jan 7, 7:43 pm E

By PAUL ELIAS, Associated Press Writer – Wed Jan 7, 7:43 pm E


SAN FRANCISCO – Six veterans who say they were exposed to dangerous chemicals, germs and mind-altering drugs during Cold War-era experiments filed a federal lawsuit against the CIA, Department of Defense and other agencies Wednesday.
The veterans say they volunteered for military experiments as part of a wide-ranging program started in the 1950s to test nerve agents, biological weapons and mind-control techniques, but were not properly informed of the nature of the experiments.
They blame the experiments for poor health and are demanding the government provide their health care. They also want the court to rule that the program was illegal because its administrators failed to get their consent.
Marie Harf, a CIA spokeswoman, declined to comment on the lawsuit, which seeks class action status on behalf of all participants allegedly exposed to harmful experiments without their knowledge. Vietnam Veterans of America, a veterans advocacy group, is also a plaintiff.
The suit, filed in San Francisco, alleges that at least 7,800 U.S. military personnel served as volunteers to test experimental drugs such as LSD at the Edgewood Arsenal near Baltimore, Md., during a program that lasted into the 1970s, and that many others volunteered for similar experiments at other locations.
"In virtually all cases, troops served in the same capacity as laboratory rats or guinea pigs," the lawsuit states.
The suit contends that veterans were wrongfully used as test subjects in experiments such as MK-ULTRA, a CIA project from the 1950s and '60s that involved brainwashing and administering experimental drugs like LSD to unsuspecting individuals. The project was the target of several congressional inquiries in the 1970s and was tied to at least one death.
Harf said that MK-ULTRA "was thoroughly investigated and the CIA fully cooperated with each of the investigations."
The plaintiffs say many of the volunteers' records have been destroyed or remain sealed as top secret documents. They also say they were denied medals and other citations they were promised for participating in the experiments.
They are not seeking monetary damages but have demanded access to health care for veterans they say were turned away at Department of Veterans Affairs facilities because they could not prove their ailments were related to their military service.
In 1988, the Justice Department agreed to pay eight Canadians a total of $750,000 to settle their lawsuit alleging they suffered psychological trauma from CIA-financed mind-control experiments that included the use of LSD.

[kimball13]

Told ya MK-ULTRA was tied in,,,,,,,,now where was it that i spent allot of my childhood, the places i spent most of it in that city, as well as the hypnotherapy and other surgical procedures, then there was what my step father and ?mother? did for the Gov,,,,at least mom has some remorse.....
did i mention where i first met the man that said he was my father, he might have ben but then all i had to go on was a name meating place and time, both meating where this way,,,,no one that new him ever saw him and me together,,ya now that i look back alot of my life was that way i would be put on a bus or plane or given to someone to take me for a while or sent down to sandeigo,,,,,,.......

[kimball13]

Greenbaum speech on Hypnosis in MPD;ritual abuse


http://www.empty-memories.nl/science/greenbaum.pdf


to tell you the truth i dont want to read it i probley already know enough, and i dont want to get pissed and spend the time reading this now so im going to bookmard, maybe it will help someone else

[kimball13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ES8Bv0_8w

just 80 seconds and tears fck,,,,,,,imagine rage and every emotion at once,,,,emotional shock............

[kimball13]

Art ta choke, made to choke art, just trying to make light of it all im not seriose but it is funny..........

They thought i was retarded to oops thats why the DRs were always surpised i gues it was ok as long as they though i was retarded and it must have shocked them ant how normal and actualy intelgent and of good health i was and still am,,,,,,,,maybe it is only the freak anomalies of my anatomy that has kept me in good health and alive.........

[kimball13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXDASDDrDkM&feature=related

one question i have is why are they all female where are all the men, i would like to know am i the only one that survived, im just currios because most men i have seen are fakes......................

i can tell her and i went through something similar yet mine started in 76 when she was let go, i wonder,

[kimball13]

Vets sue CIA, DoD over military experiments

By PAUL ELIAS, Associated Press Writer – Wed Jan 7, 7:43 pm ET
SAN FRANCISCO – Six veterans who say they were exposed to dangerous chemicals, germs and mind-altering drugs during Cold War-era experiments filed a federal lawsuit against the CIA, Department of Defense and other agencies Wednesday.
The veterans say they volunteered for military experiments as part of a wide-ranging program started in the 1950s to test nerve agents, biological weapons and mind-control techniques, but were not properly informed of the nature of the experiments.
They blame the experiments for poor health and are demanding the government provide their health care. They also want the court to rule that the program was illegal because its administrators failed to get their consent.
Marie Harf, a CIA spokeswoman, declined to comment on the lawsuit, which seeks class action status on behalf of all participants allegedly exposed to harmful experiments without their knowledge. Vietnam Veterans of America, a veterans advocacy group, is also a plaintiff.
The suit, filed in San Francisco, alleges that at least 7,800 U.S. military personnel served as volunteers to test experimental drugs such as LSD at the Edgewood Arsenal near Baltimore, Md., during a program that lasted into the 1970s, and that many others volunteered for similar experiments at other locations.
"In virtually all cases, troops served in the same capacity as laboratory rats or guinea pigs," the lawsuit states.
The suit contends that veterans were wrongfully used as test subjects in experiments such as MK-ULTRA, a CIA project from the 1950s and '60s that involved brainwashing and administering experimental drugs like LSD to unsuspecting individuals. The project was the target of several congressional inquiries in the 1970s and was tied to at least one death.
Harf said that MK-ULTRA "was thoroughly investigated and the CIA fully cooperated with each of the investigations."
The plaintiffs say many of the volunteers' records have been destroyed or remain sealed as top secret documents. They also say they were denied medals and other citations they were promised for participating in the experiments.
They are not seeking monetary damages but have demanded access to health care for veterans they say were turned away at Department of Veterans Affairs facilities because they could not prove their ailments were related to their military service.
In 1988, the Justice Department agreed to pay eight Canadians a total of $750,000 to settle their lawsuit alleging they suffered psychological trauma from CIA-financed mind-control experiments that included the use of LSD.




i do believe my father was also a victim of such things, they murdered him, as well as 16 years before his death i had to hold a compress above his left eye in a hole the size of a 1 8th socket receptor torc bar end,,,,,,,that was the moment i said goodby to the man i had only known for 8 mnths,,,,,,,,it was obviose that my step-mom was probley his handler.

some of us are not multie generatoinal satanic cult survivors some of us are multi generational Millitary MK-ultra survivors.


funny thing today it looks as if most of my ways of getting world news have ben shut of i guese its time to break out the radio,,,,,,,,,,,cant even get cnn on the internet right nnow,,, so real time it is, i warnded you yesterday and this is the answer cool i can live with it,,,,,,,uhoh the power suply plug in is pushed in and cant plug radio in(a bit coincidental i would say, considering i was listneing to it two night ago),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya that guy uriel came byoooppsss did i say a name........They arnot going to like it,,,,,,i am getting happy feat:eek: time to stomp the yard i suppose, a bit of lord of the dance on the battle feild.............

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FDA scandle,,,,,,,,,,,,,let me see 1997-98 i underwent experimental surgerie(1997:eek:),,,for instalation of a prostetic sphincter(artificial bowel sphincter, ABS) produced by the AMS american medical systems......when there trials were done i was basicly thrown aside even though i had gone through a year of the device never being properly activated(that was very painful imagine giving birth almost everyday),,,then because of that the scar tissue made it almost to the point that my entire lower bowels almost had to be removed, ya then there was the almost bleading to death in my hospital bed and them just saying i was not for 6 hours, finnaly when i was getting ready to walk a mile to another hospital they helped me(did i mention that hospital was catholic, Scripps memorial, SD CA) Oh ya the fda vetted the trials and made better devices and when i aske hay, your device did not work for me and caused years of pain, suffering, several near death experieces, ruined my future that i was planning at the time,,,,,so what about just giving me a new improved model,,,,,,,,,there answer the trials are done and im sol (shit out of luck),,,,,,,,,ya they got paid alot for giving me hope then making my life even worse for even hoping,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

And for those that get all dramatic about phones tapped and computers being hacked and going down,,,,,,,,,,,ive had all of that by many groups, who knows maybe even a few of you,,,,,,,,,so after about 38 years of this going on for me it only irratates me and gives me a target,,,,,,,,,ya know like a sniper's sniper,,,,,,,,when i see the muzzle flash i know where to consentrate fire, and if the MA Duece doesnt do it then there is always alot of booommba,,,,,,,,and i do try to warn the ones that are not responsible because i know that those responsible cant leave there post,,,,,,,,,they are dug in so to say, i love it when they go silent that is when i realy listen to what isnt there, should i go on, ive had to learn while being shot at so to speak so i know how to move in a very fluid enviroment and know how to do things they dont teach in books or spy school,,,,,,,,,,,,,i love doing that scene in that borne movei ya know the one when he says shes standing next to you.......................Then i look for the grin, because there arrogance has led them to feal so smug that when i mention tthe pedophiles that have infiltrated they smile,,,,,,,,,,,ya gotta watch for microexpresions then there are those that they cant help it almost looks like the look of a child takeing a shit, ya know tha grin they get when dumping in there diaper,,,,,ya it is that bad, they have almost automatic responses because they have gotten away with it for so long,,,,,,,,,,,,like i said i talked to one the other day and she fits the time frame as well as the area of study and research,,,,,,,,,just read about it, what happend in SF CA.......................

FDA MFing scandel serves them right

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now what is going on with the moon tonight:eek: 14% larger and 31% brighter than any other full moon.

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i just watched an interveiw with a celebrity and what he says is very important,,,,,,i can see his struggle with certain beliefs and such,,,,,,,,i just want to say alot of those religions(for lack of better term) do contain truths and what some would call secret knowledge, the thing to remember alot of those religions began because someone found one or two truths and ran with it,,,,,,,,,,,,they found them either by being part of a secret society that had a few, or from a lost book or any number of ways but what they did not have was the knowledge in its entirety of wisdom,,,,,,,,,,,they only had a tid bit of knowledge and aplied earthly wisdom to its use and practice,,,,,,,,,,,and when they glimpsed the spiritual wisdom they thought it to be more knowlegd and aplied it in a context of knowledge,,,,,,,,,,,,,it can be dagerouse to confuse wisdom for knowledge, imagine confuseing the spiritual equivalents........It would take a very humble spiritual leader to admit such a mistake,,,,i wonder which one it will be, the Dali Lama maybe, but you never know,,,,,,,but then maybe it will take a very old yet mythical return of one,,,,,,,and of all people i would think the Dali Lama would understand my position because after all he is was in a same situation, yet for him he was found and taken in by his people,,,so i wonder is there such a thing as reincarnation,,,,,,,,,,,,and then what type of person would reincarnate now that has the Spiritual Knowledge and Wisdom of Spiritual Warfare and the Sword that Cuts lies and exposes Truth as the only answer and Path that should be taken,,,,,,,,,,i wonder who that describes in history as well as a few prophecys maybe that is why the pr campainge with these other guys claiming this as well as they claimed to be luciferian and such so by the time i WOKE the fck up i was like damit how am i going to figure this out then ther is the matter of all the disinfo. So for the record since i was a very small boy,,,,,,,,,,,,around 5-6 mnts of age i can remember thinking about God,,,,,i have never followed anything else,,,,i have looked into other things and listened to there side, i wanted to understand on every level i could access without falling into that abyss ,,,,,,,ive seen that abyss many times from above and in this plane it looks a bit diffrent,,,,,,,,,here it is not looking down into the abyss it is looking into almost like a thin veil in a sense,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe that is the robe coverd in blood maybe that allows me to look and interact with them, maybe it is that that causes some of them to think i am one of them(demon or devil for lack of better term).....


So to clarify it is a matter of me accepting who i am and what i am not a matter of my believing it or knowing it,,,,,,,,,,,,it troubles me greatly that i have noticed the more i accept my birthright as my only option as well as others i have noticed escalations,,,,,,,,,,it was just before 911 that someone called me a Dragon, that pissed me off maybe because im Pendragon not a dragon..........did i also mention that i shaved my head just before as a sign of mourning and as an end to my mourning,,,,,,,,,crazy huh,,,,,,,well its bean about a year,,,,,,,i fooled around with the hair for awhile to see if it realy was true,,,,,,,,,,,its not like my enemys dont know about the hair, heck they knew before me,,,,,,and they would always use the conditioning to get me to cut it,,,,,the last one that got me to cut it visited me after he died and told me something, i gues God sent him and said hay clear this up and ya got forgiveness. I can feal that guy now, he's fine, after all even the Elect will be fooled..........im still trying to figure out how people thought i was the anti-chirst as well as christ,,,,,,,,,it doesnt say either in Revalations or anywhere else,,,,,,,,,,,,,,actualy it says im going to put down the beasts and such as well as the anti-christ, i gues you could say im the anti-christs worst nighmare, so will i be a easygoing kinda guy with that kinda responsobility. I might look a bit angelic, as in pretty boy, but as far as looking harmless, NOT,..............

It is good that the Lakota Sioux have declared sovereignty ,,,,,,,,,i could not listen or down load the interveiw but i was at the first singing of there declaration at fort Robinson back around i think 1997,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Ya my signature is on there first original delclaration:eek:

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it was a bit overcaste about 10 or so years ago a small group of men and women of the Lakota Sioux and the Fire Chief (Me), just outside of the jail that housed Crazy Horse durring his last hours of life, almost on the very spot that he sang for hours until he bled to death that i think around 12 of us signed the declaration of independence ,,,,,,,,now i know how it feels to be a founding father,,,,,,,,,,oh shit imagine if im who i say i am and i am part of the Lakotas freedom ,,,,,would that cause a whole new level of politics,,,think about it the Heriditary king arthur (pendragon)as well as maybe the return of Arthur himself,,,,,,,,,,,,,interesting that my teacher is the descendant of the first pipe carrier and a chief ,,,,,,,,no wonder we were more like brothers or friends and why others saw that and were jealous ,,,,,,,,i guess when you are one you just know when in counsel with another. Now what if in my last life i was Crazy Horse, why wouldnt i be someone like him to get a bit of experience of.........but then why would i be raised in a family with close ties with Roosevelt, Sitting Bull, and War Eagle,,,i heard the storie of the old indian that came around christamas every year and told stories of roosevelt and the creation of the boy scouts and such,,,,,,so am i connecte ya in a way, just im not what they wanted,,,ya know they wanted a killer or a bussines man not what i became,,,,that is why they just let me go and learn to pray they thought that was safe and i would not be a problem because after all they could always claim i was a religios fanatic or got cought up with nut jobs and conspiracy freaks,,,,or what did happend a singnature of mine on a declaration for the Lakota's sovereignty ,,,,,,,,i wonder if that original one still exists!!!!!!!!!!!!im sure it does, after all i think everyone of us was parnoid in our own way..............

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and i thought that whole dream about the magical bow and breaking it was just a childhood dream, it was a memorie, look at what i found it in the avatar....I remember walking up to that place i was in thought about what if i fail, my fear was looking a fool for thinking i was blessed so much to try and string that bow, yet i broke it which was even more magical than stringing it because up until that point it was thought to be unstingable and unbreakable, the only one that could string it was the Goddess that created the bow,,,,boy did i think i realy screwed the pooch on that one by breaking it, just for a second though then i and everyone else realized the strength it took to do a feat like that...

so it is finding information like this that brings back the memories of my childhood that ive forgoten and have just sat in the back of my mind so this is very real for me........

Sage Vishwamitra takes the two princes, Rama and Lakshmana, to the Swayamvara ceremony for Sita. The challenge is to string the bow of Shiva, and shoot an arrow with it. This task is considered impossible for any ordinary king or living being, as this is the personal weapon of Shiva, more powerful, holy and of divine creation than conceivable. While attempting to string the bow, Rama breaks it into two. This feat of unbelievable strength, to have broken the bow of Shiva, spreads his fame across the worlds and seals his marriage to Sita.[17]

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and this is also why because i have always lived this, i follow the same path as Rama even though it is very knew information to me, as a matter of fact i did not know these stories existed, maybe because i havenot ben exposed to these teachings in anyway other than my heart and it was not time for me to remember until now..........

Rama and non-violence

Rama is always shown with a bow (called Kodanda) on his shoulder. As per Valmiki Ramayana, Sita once enquired as to why her Lord, Rama always carried a bow with him. Sita was upset with Rama's promise to sages that he offer protection while they performed their sacrificial rituals and therefore petitioned Rama that 'We are in the forest and we should live life of sages so why wield this weapon?'. Sita then narrated a story about an ancient sage who became violent simply by having a weapon in his possession (in this case a sword). Rama smiled and promised to Sita that he would never attack anybody unless the other person provokes him to do so, a promise that he kept throughout his life. In fact he had always given two chances to his enemies Tataka, Maarich, Vali and even Ravana. He even offered a peace treaty to Ravana before starting the war. Angada took his peace message to Ravana which was declined.

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i just couldnt help myself, after all i cant take myself to seriously,





http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f5/MS_05182005_0020.jpg/250px-MS_05182005_0020.jpgArt by Alan Davis


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/70/Pendragon_1-06-00f.JPG/388px-Pendragon_1-06-00f.JPG
Cover of Knights of Pendragon #6, a Marvel UK comic. Published December 1990



i gues this is me;!?!http://comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/14544_20071207112049_char.jpg

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interesting the last apearance of Arthur was in sept 93 i wonder what happend in october.........but then again comics are only reflections of modernday mythologie and that is reality.

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scary huh the 9-11 bloodlines issues

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the hair is close

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http://www.solcomhouse.com/images/yellssokeplo.jpgCredit:BBC

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http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20090109/capt.99a4b3f50dcf490bac2dfbe87334fcaf.yellowstone_ volcano_hysteria_ny107.jpg?x=213&y=293&xc=1&yc=1&wc=297&hc=409&q=100&sig=jZnmAMGZOVsNPaEkIeIcEQ-- In this Friday, Aug. 15, 1997 file photo, an unidentified pair of visitors to the Yellowstone National …


so why use a file photo from 1997 in most news on th yellowstone when the ohters are much more colorfull,,,or is it another dont tell them.....

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$961 gas bill prompts city to shut off memorial's flame

By NEIL YOUNG/The Daily News

BULLHEAD CITY - In a Veterans Day ceremony with much fanfare, the perpetual flame was lighted at the new Medal of Honor Memorial at the Arizona Veterans Memorial Park.

On Monday, the flame was extinguished by Bullhead City after it received a bill from Southwest Gas for $961.17. The city took over maintenance of the park from the Veterans United organization last July.

“It caught us by surprise,” said Tim Ernster, Bullhead City manager. “What we decided to do for the time being is to turn the flame on ... for special events, for Veterans Day, Fourth of July, Memorial Day - those types of activities.”

“It's an eternal flame. That's just not proper,” said John “Mickey” McClure, Veterans United spokesman.

“You just don't shut off a perpetual flame,” said Joe Felice of Veterans United. “To me, it shows disrespect for all those that died for our state.”

“I don't believe that there is a veteran in this city,” said Bullhead City Mayor Jack Hakim, “that for one moment, wouldn't think that this city has the utmost respect for all of our veterans.”

Karla Brady, parks, recreation and community services director, had met with Veterans United representatives and agreed to keep the flame going through the holiday period. “It's not our intent to keep it off,” Brady said. “We're going to be looking at some possible solutions for this and hope to get it turned back on.”

“But at this point, we don't have any money budgeted, you know, a thousand dollars a month, to pay for that eternal flame,” Ernster said. The city is in the middle of a budget crisis, which required it to make cutbacks, institute a hiring freeze and lay off several employees.

“You know, under the present financial circumstances, we're very careful on how we're spending our money,” Hakim said.

Ernster said he didn't believe the city was aware that it would be responsible for the gas bill.

“I think what happened is, when the city took over the maintenance of the park from Veterans United, that wasn't communicated to the city and so it just caught us by surprise, and the cost alone was just really surprising.”

That's being disputed by the veterans.

“They knew about it. This is no surprise, or it shouldn't be,” McClure said. “These figures were projected when it was being built ... so for them to come along and say, ‘Well, gee, we didn't expect to pay that much' is just a slap in the face.”

McClure met with Hakim and Brady on Thursday.

“The city has committed to turning it back on,” McClure said. “We have agreed that this will be done in two weeks, while all parties involved try to figure out a way to lower the cost,” he said.

Hakim had a slightly different take on whether the city had agreed to turn on the flame in two weeks.

“We made a commitment that we will do everything we can to have it turned back on in two weeks,” he said. “The city will be looking for a solution to reduce costs and we're hoping that can be done in a couple of weeks,” Hakim said.

“So we're just asking people to be a little patient - that we have not forgotten our veterans at all. It's going to be back on and I don't think anybody should be so worried that it's not.”

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NO FIRE: The eternal flame sits flameless Thursday at the Arizona Veterans Memorial Park after city officials shut the gas off when they received a $961 gas bill for one month of service. JEFF MANGUM/The Daily News'''''''''''''''''


But hay lets wipe the banker asses with billions and bail out murders and well ya know..........

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Interesting weather patterns;
trucks being overturned in california from wind, and snow blanket other parts, wild fire warnings for california.

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YA WHAT WAS SCRIPPS DOING TO ME;

Findings could inform biochemical questions about how life began
PRESS RELEASE
Date Released: Friday, January 9, 2009
Source: Scripps Research InstituteNow, a pair of Scripps Research Institute scientists has taken a significant step toward answering that question. The scientists have synthesized for the first time RNA enzymes that can replicate themselves without the help of any proteins or other cellular components, and the process proceeds indefinitely.


AND WHO ARE THEY AND DO THEY DEAL WITH NASA;;;;;;;;;;;;;
The paper is titled "Self-sustained Replication of an RNA Enzyme," and the work was supported by NASA and the National Institutes of Health, and the Skaggs Institute for Chemical Biology.

About The Scripps Research Institute

The Scripps Research Institute is one of the world's largest independent, non-profit biomedical research organizations, at the forefront of basic biomedical science that seeks to comprehend the most fundamental processes of life. Scripps Research is internationally recognized for its discoveries in immunology, molecular and cellular biology, chemistry, neurosciences, autoimmune, cardiovascular, and infectious diseases, and synthetic vaccine development. Established in its current configuration in 1961, it employs approximately 3,000 scientists, postdoctoral fellows, scientific and other technicians, doctoral degree graduate students, and administrative and technical support personnel. Scripps Research is headquartered in La Jolla, California. It also includes Scripps Florida, whose researchers focus on basic biomedical science, drug discovery, and technology development. Scripps Florida is currently in the process of moving from temporary facilities to its permanent campus in Jupiter, Florida. Dedication ceremonies for the new campus will be held in February 2009.

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Scientists Discover Chemical Triggers for Aggression in Mice
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20071210/stowers.html

Researchers Pinpoint Specific Neurons Involved In Memory Formation

Researchers Pinpoint Specific Neurons Involved In Memory Formation
Reduced Body Temperature Extends Lifespan in Study from The Scripps Research Institutehttp://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20061106/conti.html


The Immortal Molecule
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20090112/joyce.html

Scripps scientists develop first examples of RNA that replicates itself indefinitelyhttp://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=27331


Can we say Universal fXXXing soldier,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,did i mention my body runs a little cool i have a low heart rate and such also,,,,,,,,

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oh ya the most important thing i know,,,,,,,,,,,,,when you can love other's in the human race as much and with the same emotion and action that you extend to you children and parents in healthy ways then you know the love of God...


basicly love other as you do you parents and children, and remember to accept love in the same way, then the tricky part remember that we are equal but then that is simple when you love other's just as you would a parent or child of your own.............

that is how i see other's in the world and that is how i feel about the rest of humanity, i veiw the world from a very diffrent way than most and even though i suffer greatly and missunderstood allot of the time because this is so forenge to everyone when it is put into everyday living it throws some off trying to figure out my angel, is he gullible, is he a con-artist,,,,what is he,,oh the ones' that gain cofidence like that oh he reminds me of a spy or something he has to be up to something,,,,,,,,,somebody as smart and such doesnt go around choosing to be so trusting and honest without an angle,,,,,then there is that attitude almost like he trying to correct us and his temper and such, huh i wonder,,,,,,as trusting as a child yet as strict as a parent i wonder, oh and somehow he come's up with solutions,,what is this guys angle,,,,whodoes he work for....................:D

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a bit simpler,,,,,,,,,,,,as christ said to come to him as a child,,,,,,learn his teachings and ways as a child,,,,,,,,,well then come's the time when you will take what you have learned and teach as the child and the parent.......


now for a bit of attitude and sas,,,,,,,,get it, got it, good, now do it.

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Researchers First To 'See' Reactive Oxygen Species In Vital Enzyme
ScienceDaily (Jan. 12, 2009) — Using two simultaneous light-based probing techniques at the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Brookhaven National Laboratory, a team of researchers has illuminated important details about a class of enzymes involved in everything from photosynthesis to the regulation of biological clocks.

a day early to:confused:

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2009/01/090109175524-large.jpg

i have know idea what all this means but it looks official.


oh here is what they say, the guys that know this stuff...........


(ScienceDaily) represent one of only a handful of ways that nature activates molecular oxygen, a process that’s important for all life on the planet,” said Brookhaven biophysicist Allen Orville. “We’ve determined structures of some oxygen intermediates involved in several important enzymes that assist in this process. But no one has ever seen an oxygen intermediate attached to the flavin. Until now.”

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couldve started at jurasic park.


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/10/061030183329.htm

Scientists Convert Modern Enzyme Into Its Hypothesized Ancestorr


ScienceDaily (Oct. 31, 2006) — By making a single substitution in the amino acid sequence of a modern enzyme, scientists have changed its function into that of a theoretical distant ancestor, providing the first experimental evidence for the common origin of the two distinct enzyme types. The research, conducted by a team that includes scientists from the U.S. Department of Energy's Brookhaven National Laboratory and the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, will be published online the week of October 30, 2006, by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.



"It's as if we turned back the clock nearly 2.5 billion years, to the time when oxygen first appeared in Earth's atmosphere, to get a snapshot of how enzymes evolved to deal with reactive oxygen species," said Brookhaven biochemist John Shanklin, lead author on the paper.
Oxygen, while essential for many life processes, can also exist in potentially toxic forms, such as superoxide and hydroxyl radicals, as well as hydrogen peroxide. After the first photosynthetic organisms appeared on Earth some 2.5 billion years ago, pumping oxygen into the atmosphere, organisms with enzymes capable of deactivating these reactive oxygen species had an increased chance of survival.

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wow is that why they talk about anti-oxidents being good in your diet.

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a bit more about scripps. and a few snippits,,,,,,,,not that there are any high level politics or the catholic church involved but let us leave chicago out and speakers of the house but let us not forger the close ties to Jeb bush, we woundnt want to leave any influence there.........

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Scripps Research Institute in Palm Beach County
California biomedical facility could put the region on the national map as a biotechnology hotbed

Feds chronicle decade of fraud in McCartys' case
For more than a decade, federal prosecutors said Friday, Palm Beach County Commissioner Mary McCarty and her husband profited from manipulating hundreds of millions of dollars worth of public business for their own gain.
Projects and agencies involved in the McCarty schemes
Palm Beach County Housing Finance Authority.
he Scripps Research Institute and Roger Dean Stadium

After nominating Raymond James as her bond issuing firm, McCarty voted numerous times to approve bond business for the firm, including a $133.9 million bond to acquire and construct The Scripps Research Institute in 2005 and $20 million to refinance Roger Dean Stadium in Jupiter the same year.
McCarty had ambitions of higher office. In 1997, she began quietly campaigning in hopes that then-gubernatorial candidate Jeb Bush would choose her as his running mate. She also expressed interest in running for secretary of state.
McCarty, the oldest of six children, grew up in a wealthy suburb north of Chicago and attended Catholic schools. One of her brothers, Brian Ballard, grew up to become a top Tallahassee lobbyist and Republican activist who is close to Gov. Charlie Crist and former Gov. Jeb Bush.
Her grandfather, a Washington lobbyist, helped her get her first political job. During the summer of 1974, McCarty worked in Washington as an intern for U.S. Rep. Tip O'Neill, the Massachusetts Democrat who then was the majority leader of the House.



http://www.palmbeachpost.com/business/content/local_news/epaper/2009/01/09/0108mccarty.html?cxntlid=inform_artr
By GEORGE BENNETT, JENNIFER SORENTRUE and TONY DORIS
Palm Beach Post Staff Writers

Friday, January 09, 2009

Mary McCarty, a colorful and combative force in Palm Beach County politics for two decades, on Thursday became the latest and biggest figure to fall in the ongoing federal investigation of corruption in local government.

And she may not be the last.The five-term Republican county commissioner announced her resignation and said she will plead guilty to "honest services fraud" for accepting free and discounted hotel rooms and for failing to recuse herself from votes that benefited her husband's bond firms.

Federal prosecutors are expected to seek a five-year sentence for McCarty and a one-year sentence for her husband, Kevin, a Delray Beach bond underwriter and former gubernatorial appointee to the South Florida Water Management District's board. Mary McCarty's guilty plea will make her ineligible for a state pension. She is the fifth local elected official to resign under a corruption cloud since 2006. The others all went to prison after pleading guilty to federal charges: former County Commissioners Tony Masilotti and Warren Newell and former West Palm Beach City Commissioners Ray Liberti and James Exline

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... the Son of Fortune shall come; he shall rule over Alba as one Lord.[3]
The Britons will be low in his time; high will be Alba of melodious boats.
Pleasant to my heart and my body is what my spirit tells me:
The rule of the Son of Fortune in his land in the east will cast misery from Scotland.
Seventeen years (in fortresses of valour) in the sovereignty of Scotland.
He will have in bondage in his house Saxons, Foreigners, and Britons.[4The Prophecy of Berchán.[5]
A.A.M. Duncan argues that the association of Giric and Eochaid in the kingship is spurious, that Giric alone was king of the Picts, which he claimed as the son of daughter of Kenneth MacAlpin, and that the report that he was Eochaid's guardian (alumpnus) is a misreading of uncle (auunculus). A.P. Smyth proposed that Giric was a nephew of Kenneth MacAlpin, the son of his brother Donald MacAlpin (Domnall mac Ailpín), which appears to rest on what is probably a scribal error. The entry also states that an otherwise unknown Causantín, son of Domnaill (or of Dúngail) was king. Finally, Benjamin Hudson has suggested that Giric, rather than being a member of Cenél nGabráin dynasty of Kenneth MacAlpin and his kin, was a member of the northern Cenél Loairn-descended dynasty of Moray, and accepts the existence of Giric's brother Causantín.


:eek:scribble errors and an unknown king:eek:guse if you dont nead to buy indulgences from the church for being evil then you must not get recorded mush or the erase and scribble you out....

just came across this never heard of it but it goes along with the cover up especialy when this is found also, pretty much says what the Vatican has done.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5e/PapalPolitics2.JPG/270px-PapalPolitics2.JPG Antichristus, a woodcut by Lucas Cranach the Elder of the pope using the temporal power to grant authority to a ruler cointributing generously to the Catholic Church.


im going to have fun looking a bit deaper in these other body's of knowledge it appears as if the Vatican and certain unroyal familys did a bit of record changeing but then nobody knew about all that did they,,,,,,,to bad we didnt have cell phone cameras back then.

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oh ya wasnt it just reacently Scotland regaind its soverenty:cool:

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the only words i can give for this is,,,,whether or not there is a new world order we are now a global community, when we do this to our children anywhere it will happen everywhere. To many people judge societys based ont there prisons, well that must be true there are more alcolholics and drug addicts as well as inocent people in prisons all over the world and the child rapeists and murder's are set free on probation or never even caught because somebody doesnt want to embarrass the wrong Egotistical power broker, not that im talking aboout the vatican and other entitys that house a very large number of pedophiles. Sorry to point out that everybody has ben blaming the wrong religions for starting all this crap,,,,,,,,,,,,,,its not the jews, the christians or islam that created all of the conflict it was
Rome and it still is Rome, in my not so humble opinion(oh ya i dont have an opinion, there like assholes).


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this was going in another post but then it became part of this again damit.
Bloodline, Politics, Egos, Arrogance and Greed, Social architecture deconstructing morals and basic human community needs.

I hate talking about hate and what causes it or how it manifests in individuals and groups,,,,,,,,,,,,stop group think when in a group making decisions or actions because when each individual has there intent truly in line with a group then they are held fully responsible for there actions as well as holding his brother or sister responsible for decisions and actions,,,,,your intentions and heart can only truly be for a group if you are willing to hold that group responsible for its actions... i dont play favorites ,,,,,,,maybe that is why when i was asked to join the illuminate i thought and responded that they should be joining me:eek:and maybe i can nock some sense in them after all they only listen to there secret leader but then imagine if because of something that happend someone was able to prove an ancient birthright that would entitle that person the leadership and complete authority of such groups like the Illuminate and Masons/Templar type organizations, why do i say this well they like to talk about my ancestors allot so really it is what they have said, they like to play that word game sometimes i wonder if they looked at the ones that were written down by other's before them. Oh but i wont bring up the overly defective chief corner stone that is really the Capstone(that one eye on the fucking money),,,,,,,,,,,something like a slip of 5 cm and wallah handicap, then the further justification with the other anomalies they found about my physiology which God may have put there for a reason, such as to better be able to transmute the energy's that i feel sometimes or whatever way you want to put it,,,,,look up what an inferior vena cava is, or a renal vein, and collateral arteries, as well as azigos and for some strange reason i am missing one that is important for the legs yet i have more of all of the others in numbers and size which increases not only my filtration but the amount of flow yet if have the blood pressure and heart rate of a well conditioned athlete,,,,the only thing is when i get moving or thinking i just keep building up speed and capacity for problem solving and physical movement, when i was a boy i used to joke around and say i was like the Hulk then some of my friends found out and i found out it wasnt much of a joke, scares the shit out of me sometimes then sometimes if there isnt someone of higher education and or skill in some fields most people allot of what i say and do at times goes so far over there head it only slips into there sub-conscience, then if i stick around long enough i see it sink in then some cant believe where it came from,,,,,,,,,my apearance and honesty can cause allot of judgement from most especialy if someone that wants to assume they are an authority in something they have never known any truth involved in what they are imitating.


anyways the thread about a lady being slapped for being english started me down this whole train of thought, i think that about 10 years of trying to play the politicaly correct and listen to those that are successes, well low and behold some are only successed because the copyied people like me then charecter assasinated us or ran a pcycological mind fuck on us,,,,,,,,,,,and maybe i am who i a apear to be and what if i was so stereo typical of the achytype and such if he where real as well as demonstrating that he is the only one strong enough to have edured what he has and maintaned his wits and such.........................



i told em over 20 years ago, the day i was walking into a coffee shop and a woman in her 50's (im being polite) as well as obviously well to do plowed into me, i made sure that the coffee spilt on me (as a gentleman should)as i was offering my excuse me and sorry's for being part of an accident she threw the rest of what i found out was a mocha latte with whip cream and chocolate coco on top in MY FACE then she said something like all men like you think they can just do what they want, i mean she threw the rest in my face and made a comment referring to my good looks and my sexual gender,,,,,,,,ya reverse discrimination is a bit weird at times because ya never know who abused them, if they got messed with by a jock they take it out on jocks for the rest of there live's, so that would include that bicyclist Armstrong would it not or Jesse Owens,,,,,,oh reverses discriminators hate me and so do others because i dont choose sides based on the same criteria i see almost everyone doing,,,,,,i have a very unique point of view, because i have ben welcomed and oppressed by the same people, its weird i hear it and see it from both sides and take know part in it other than to point it out sometimes i think im the only one that isnt a bigot, racist, prejudices, condemning, wheal chair kicking, retard calling, etc ya get the point,,,,,,,,,,because trust me when i say ive heard every group say the same crap about some other group, especially when group think occurs, mob mentality,,,,,,i think most people are a bit less on the unconditional love evolutionary scale than i so maybe that makes me a bit prejudice to. Or maybe when i am given the same oppurtunity to learn or do something i exel even beyond some of the gifted in intelctual, phylisophical,spiritual, physical areas yet according to medical science and life experience i should not even be able to perform and of those to a satifactory level, so basicly it realy pisses the whole survival of the fittest aholes at times, sometimes its because they start of fealing sorry for me and find out i can teach them a few things,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Slapped for being english dam i want to slap myself now, imagine being reapetadly abused by the best because you not only break every stereo type but you also define the text book for what they like to call themselves, my metal has ben tested and the military industrial complex knows this,,,,,,,,,,shit i was abuse for not being sick, im talking by the medical profession, abussed for not being suicidl or depressed by the mental health profesion, and why well IMHObservatoion because i am what is best about them, the part they starve, the heart of the matter and it doesnt matter what it is i always find the heart of the matter if there is a heart, im just spiritualy tougher, i just have a more dirrect access to my heart maybe that is why God made me the way God did with all my artierial anomolies and such yet for some reason i look normal and healthy,,,,,,,,,,.........

so ive relized along time ago i only hate the ones the are hate brokers and that is a personal thing, has nothing to do with any race or any group or whatever,,,,,,,in my life i have ben aproched by almost every hate group there is(other than groups of asians),,,its like my record or whatever is a very tasty morsel for them and they start there recruitment, and sometimes i have them several times a year(wish my love life had as many choices), , , , ya why am i a bit lonely well because when you turn down enough groups attempts at recruitment ya get a bit of a blackball treatment, not realy blackballed but in a sense very similar,because ya got all these groups wanting there people in places of bussines of all types especialy local goverment,,,,,its almost funny sometimes i wonder if the person working knows that the person the work with works for the competetor or enemy, but then sometimes they get smart and play both hidden bosses of eachother and have a third boss theyare loyal to, oh the sub-contracting concept is a bit intersting when aplied in an overlapping form and then rolled up for the one big sub-contract:eek: i better stop i might give a spy novel writter to many ideas my head is spinning:o

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well now i know why that guy that put his bussiness on hold to mess with me that admits to being jesuit trained was making the drink hemlock it ulocks abilitys yada yada bla blah weird i thought he was nuts if he was doing it, my response was maybe that is why royal blood has a bit of imunity to poison(occording to mythologie), i wonder if he thought i was some kindof baldr or something, anyways just another clue or should i say curcumstantial evidence with oprutunity and motive with the obviose results from most of ther efforts other than any real damage.



The story of the Death of Baldr in Norse mythology provides another example of a self-fulfilling prophecy. The young god Baldr, the most beautiful, kind and wise of the gods, has a prophetic dream of his own death. He told his mother Frigg about it, and she was so distraught at the thought of her own son dying that she made every object on earth take a vow not to hurt her son. As nothing could now injure Baldr, the gods started hurling objects at him for entertainment, only to see every object bounce of him without a scratch. This soon became the favourite pastime of the gods.
Jealous of Baldr's newfound popularity, Loki the trickster, went to Frigg in disguise to find out if there was anything that could hurt Baldr. He found out that Frigg had not asked the mistletoe to make the vow, thinking that it was too non-threatening and unimportant to ask. Loki proceeded to make a magical spear from the plant (in some versions it was an arrow). Loki gave the spear to Baldr's blind brother Höðr, who proceeded to hurl the spear at Baldr, killing him instantly. Thus the prophecy of Baldr's dream was fulfilled.

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wikipedia


"When he who is the Chosen One
Shall tread upon the Ancient Path
And battle there to overcome
The Forces of Dark
Then shall the Seven be restored
And evil banished from this world"

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One Anglo-Norman text recounts of the Welsh that "openly they go about saying,... / that in the end they will have it all; / by means of Arthur, they will have it back... / They will call it Britain again."

oh did i mention motive and opurtunity, how many built there empire's on playing me and what would happen if i acutualy exist and came about somehow......

another wiki;

On the other hand, the notion of Arthur's eventual return to rule a united Britain was adopted by the Plantagenet kings to justify their rule.[14] Once King Arthur had been safely pronounced dead and buried at Glastonbury, in an attempt to deflate Welsh dreams of a genuine Arthurian return, the Plantagenets were then able to make ever greater use of Arthur as a political cult to support their dynasty and its ambitions. So, Richard I used his status as the inheritor of Arthur's realm to shore up foreign alliances, giving a sword reputed to be Excalibur to Tancred of Sicily.[15] Similarly, 'Round Tables' – jousting and dancing in imitation of Arthur and his knights – occurred at least 8 times in England between 1242 and 1345, including one held by Edward I in 1284 to celebrate his conquest of Wales and consequent 're-unification' of Arthurian Britain.[16] The Galfridian claim that Arthur conquered Scotland was also used by Edward I to provide legitimacy to his claims of English suzerainty over that region.[17]

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and some more so why would they try it again i wonder:confused:but why is it my family goes right back to when the coins where minted with Gramps name on em oops i gues the Vatican's erasure methods were not as good as they would have liked. Maybe a bit of reparation is in order:D


wiki;
The influence of King Arthur on the political machinations of England's kings was not confined to the medieval period: the Tudors also found it expedient to make use of Arthur. In 1485 Henry VII marched through Wales to take the English throne under the banner of the Arthurian Red Dragon, he commissioned genealogies to show his putative descent from Arthur, and named his first-born son Arthur.[18] Later, in the reigns of Henry VIII and Elizabeth, Arthur's career was influential once again, now in providing evidence for supposed historical rights and territories in legal cases that pursued the crown's interests.[19] Whilst the potential for such political usage – wherein the reality of Geoffrey's Arthur and his wide-ranging conquests was accepted and proclaimed by English antiquarians and thus utilised by the crown – naturally declined after the attacks on Geoffrey's Historia by Polydore Vergil and others,[20] Arthur has remained an occasionally politically potent figure through to the present era. In the 20th century, a comparison of John F. Kennedy and his White House with Arthur and Camelot, made by Kennedy's widow, helped consolidate Kennedy's posthumous reputation, with Kennedy even becoming associated with an Arthur-like messianic return in American folklore.[21]

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maybe i should just say were are my fucking royalty's:Dthey might understand that language.

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well i dont like to admit it but it would apear as if the same people that may have vicitmzed people in mk-ultra may well just be the very same ones that i find in my local comunity, it troubles me that they would choose to victimze me due to there prior employment in certain programs of which they put behind them but low and behold here i am, they must have worked with the man i knew as my biological father or maybe they programed him...So it would apear that they are suffering from perpatrator fear of me retaliating so they have repetadly chosen to revictimze me in what seams to apear as a increas in there desparation because today was the second time one of them tried to arrange a confrontation with police officer's.


What would you do if a woman that weighs about 105 lbs comes up to you out of breath and obviosly scared for some reason or just a good actor,,,,she starts to tell me to calm down (heck i had had to pee thats all i was thinking),she says that she got a complaint that i was threatining and such and for me to calm down as she is out of breath and raising her voice as im standing there calm and not in anyway even agitated other than wanting to know why i recieved some strange forms and such,,,so after about 2-3 minuts of this and after a group of men walk up then walk away then two of them come back and inform me that they are sherifs and advising me to have empathy for these people and the situation:confused:now im realy confused huh maybe its true and these people just found out what or who or whatever happend to me on some level and are a bit freaked out and are trying to keap me from getting an edjucation, imagine if it all came out imagine how many colleges would have to shut down, now ya know why all the violence,,,,,,,,,those propgramers fuch up sometimes and either try there crap on the wrong person or they run into an old victim, and they start screwing around and pushing buttons,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

So once again they do what they have always done, it realy confuses me when i have someone do that, its a good thing there were over 10 people there and at least two sherifs to witness at least that much, but then there is still my word against my accuser, heck im still not sure who said i was being threatning,,,,,,thank God those officers were aware enough to relize this was a case of someone being crazy and because i obviosly wasnt and it was the staff where i was they just dropped it and asked me to return later when i was or they were calm,,,,,,,after all why would people that did profiling on psychics be nervous about me,,,,,i wonder maybe they know what kind i am, it would be nice for them to tell me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,let me see everytime ive ben attacked and injured and such has sufferd a drought,,,,,,,,,,first its a flood of sorts, kinda a warning then after awhile the rain stops, you should see the lake here(its a nice walk across it in nice 70-80s degree weather) i keep telling them i only can ask for leanancy but sooner or later i either say fuck it or God himself does,,,,,,,,(my catholic grandmother knows, and shes catholic, but she also knows im on my own and she does what God appointed her for)My greatgrandma knew to maybe that is why she had a Buddha next to her Mother Marry and Baby Jesus statue, kinda like Kalki protecting baby jesus,,,,,,,,,i think she noticed how close me and grandpa were both my grandfathers were close and still are, men like them are very rare now. so allot of the time i think what would my grandfather do and the answer is find the answer and solutions and pray and if need be be strict and stern but never mean and cruel or malicious in intent or nature.

so by processs of ilimination it turns out that the one's that where manipulated in taking part in my hardship backed of a bit the real criminals are left and it would seem that it points to those affiliated with my step mother,,,,,the largest common denominators in all of this have ben phycology, bloodlines, psychics, have ben the predominant tactics and areas of issue,,,,,,by her own admission she was a licensed psychic by the goverment durring nam as well as having a masters in phycology, i think i scared her a bit now i know why, oh she is was also a druidic priestess,,,,,ya she kinda fits the alphabit soup starting with the turd letter...

It realy fucking sucks to be re-victimized by these people just because they chose to work in a feild that harmed people in very bad ways.

Good thing im set in my ways of always choosing life over all else unless it is an eminent danger type thing, ya know someone else getting stupid,,,,ive prayed to much and meditated to much to ever make those choices that some would like me to make to prove there sick point and justify there crap,,,,believe it or not part of all this is some of there concepts of survival of the fittest in all ways as well as being a product of my environment, then everytime they try to say im paranoid or whatever they end up falling on there face then they realy freak out and make themselves look even guiltier, sooner or later someithing like wall st or such was about to happen ,,,,,,,,,,,not there was a freak lightning storm on june-20-2008 and half california was on fire or anything, harp aint got shit on God, the lake was dry then and is now and then they want to blame something else other than ther own cruelty and malice (evil cruel)behavior,,,,,,,,not that its snowed the last two years here or flooded the about 3 years ago, let me see the last big flood was back when i was first moved up here as a teen and abused and neglected even more, let me see then there was the drought in a county in the midwest where the muscles of my lower spine where ripped from my spineal collum and a hematomad kidney ready to burst, it didnt rain there according to the rancher i spoke to for four years so i prayed and gues what happend it started raining as we drove down the road, ya i made a trip out there a few years ago. that was also when i found out about habsburg he hadnt caught my attention until the person i thought to be a close friend told me that was his family and his actions and fruit showed his intentions and path.

they wont back down so i wont, it seems like they are trying the best they can almost like there raceing the clock, ive come to realize that they cannot be the instrument of my death or harm because they know what the direct affect karmicly that contains, i keep trying to tell them they still will suffer the same karma even if the use other ways to try to hide or delay the karma but it always finds its way in its time, it also finds a similar path so to teach, i told them what they were doing would rock the foundations of there little empire of paper and computer programs:eek: i told them i would strip away the ways that they hide themselves from the people and that is what is happening......................................... ...................................

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so the history of where if find myself residing is interesting in its self, a courthouse with the same name as the court that convicted christ, the asian workers were all rounded up and murdered after there work was done, then the ever famous Manson and Jones as well as a few other's, but then we are just a tourist spot for the rich to come visit on a weakend after a hard weak at work. i gues i have to just accept that i am in the heart of enemy territory,,,,,,,,,,now i know why the level of division ive seen hear, that would be the only possible way anyone or group could hold this county hostage,,,,,,,,,,,,,,keep a group or area of people so parranoid of outside help because the help might be the same as the ones here already doing bad things,,,,,,,,,,,,............The amount of child abuse and molestarion here is way to high to occur in any type of natural way, i think i counted over 100 registerd pedophiles within a mile and a half of 3 schools,,,,,,,,,,then we now have allot of prisoners bussed up here to serve the remainder of there parole or go into a reovery center in leu of prison,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then there are all the ones here that act like victims and whatever and they are the worst but enough of that now

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ya know what sucks is ive seen almost every so called type of spiritual warrior scarred shitless and run and take a payoff then sell out, ya im realy seriose, ive seen allot of christians, native americans, wiccans Buddhists etc, take a payoff in a sense from rapist murdering satanists(how do i know, well i know ive lived hear on and of for over 20 years), ive come and gone and ive had the chance to see the changes hear over 20 years and the dirrection its gone as well as the commonality's involved can tell you the personality of whomever or which ever group is responsible for the majority of the local crap,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lts see the record, just a very little part,,,,,,,,,Manson, Jones, 165 day sentance's for shoting someone 6 times then running there head over, 6 mnths or none for pediphiles, the only grout around here of criminal nature that is cool are the dealers and such doing recovery instead of 5-6 years prison, pretty good huh, 3 month program and probations instead of prison,,,,,,,,,crazy huh if they get threw it they find out that half the people they work for or that helped them get freedom and then some that they befreind end up being murdering rapeists and pedophiles, by then its usualy to late and they are already conditioned and programed as well as someone has blackmail material,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is realy fucking sad to see someone gain hope of turning there life around from drugs and crime then some find out what kindof group they are around then ya see some what used to be fearless tough die-hard ghetto raised bar room brawling ex- you name it all of a sudden go nuts or become scarred of there shadow............Next post im going to describe how they recruit ya (oh i meen enslave)

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first they start swarming you, ya know like a group of people maybe 3 or more all of a sudden become real freindly and almost like family in a sense, they are almost pushy about takeing strays in as family, uasualy you find a group like this next to another one or an actualy real genuin group but i wil lget to how you know the differnce, usualy its like cells working a tag team match whos gonna get the pin.

So a guy gets drunk with a group of guys hes known a year or two, uasualy after some trouble of sorts,,,,,,,well a sett up with a girl that appears you age (early 20's) or of age,,then the next day ya find out shes 16-17, that is where they start grinding some down, ya know especialy the guy that believes teens should experience teenage stuff not relationships with adults,,,,,,so the guilt is set either threw that or something like the guy that gets to drunk or takes to many mushrooms and streeks:eek:but uhoh some 10 year old happens to be looking out the front window (at 3 am in the morn)and sees a guy peeing on a tree or running down the street streeking:eek: then the poor chap gets some kinda child molest charge, then they got him,,,,,,,,,,

Then the girlfriend that youve ben with for two years starts telling you her fantasy's about you having sex with 13 year olds, or she wants to see you with a guy, and as this is going on she starts hitting you and putting you in positions to protect yourself, then you step out of the way or block her attacks and get an abuse charge and then the breakup not because your abusive, oh but then the get back together and the only way to prove you are not an abuser is to stay in the relationship until someone notices theyare the abuser's if you lucky then you can leave the relationship with your life at time's,,,,,,,,,,,oh then you find out that at minumum 3 guys you know and hang out with and are close to turn out to be sickos that like little girls, they try to justifie and say shit like if they can get pregnant and shit like that to justifie there wanting child sex. Did i mention that some of these chicks will still accuse you even if you have never abused them or anyone, it is not always there fault like i said the torture, conditioning, and programing is what is doing it in allot of these cases.

So if they think you might be a problem they set you up with rumors and what ever they can, includeing frameing you by telling people your not only gay and like anal sex but that you like little girls,,,,,,,,,,they tell people you do what they wanted you to, they blame you for doing what they are,,,,,,,,these guys set up outsiders to take the fall,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then there is the disbelief factor.

The unfortunate women they use are realy fucked up,,,,,,,,,,,,what they do to them is very fucking sick to make them that way,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,from more than one source,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,what they do to these girls to make them this way is they put them in a locked room and keep them doped up on speed and such, mostly speed then for about 3 weeks, old men go in and out of the room having sex with them, that isnt done hear it is another state, maybe they do it here now out in the woods or something,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ive seen the tell tale signs of these what some call sex slaves all over the country,, but here its a bit disprapotionate almost as if this is the home base for a very large group of these types and what they have done is cocooned themselves with allot of the gang land types and underground elements, inthe the past it was biker's ,,,maybe they were fased out a bit becuose the bikers began to get wise to the sickos tehy were hanging with, i meen most bikers do draw the line on unjust cruelty and babyrape, so now it looks like they are trying to thow allot of chaffe in the air and find a new or set of new foot solgers and human shields with alot of children, maybe that is why the last count for large gangs hear was at last count 14(we might have 30 cops)2-3 cops per gang. Oh but then alot dont know that this sickness does go into the local goverment so the police department gets manipulated as well as the courts quit a bit..........So what happens when these bikers, gangs, cops, courts, local goverment ets find out how they have ben held hostage by a very sick group of ??????????????????????

ya one day on my way home from therapy after someone said my life reminded them of a guy in a book named Ender Wiggins and another charecter Bean also,,,,,,,,,,,,,so i looked for the book, i found this book was also suggested reading for marine corps intel, it also contained some very basice techniques,,,,the one bean showed me is good, it is about using a bully a group and a soup line to change the way things are ran as well as getting your enemys to realize that only by ending there ways can they survive. oh shit thats an aspect of what ive ben doing the whole forkin time.

So ya i think i got my message threw, take there money, dont do anything permanent, try not to put your word to there crap, use whatever of there resorces ya can, let them think they got ya and then when critical mass is reached and this has ben followed the table gets flipped becuase when your jailer has given you the deed to his house, the key under the mat, has gone into hock to make there payoffs to the ones that they cant get anything on and they are surrounded by the victims of these aholes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is realy a beutiful site to see biker's, gang banger's, white supremesists, pot grower's, cops etc working in a harmony that i think some see happening ,,,,,,,,,,, makes me think of that bible passage or was it the king prophecy(!) and he will purify unto him a strange people,,,,,,my day is crazy sometimes, becuase in the morning im having a cup a joe with who knows what former or current gang affilitated member from wherever to a white supremacist to a borderline fanatical christian and they all kinda gravitate a bit,,,,,,,,,,,,it is beutiful to see a proud black man and a white supremacist share a cup of coffee, a cigaret, or even a joint:eek::cool: Im talking some genuine shit, so crazy ay i might be but not like a fox im crazy like a lion looking after his jungle. :cool:

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Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Exp. - Brief Descriptions of Doc. Collections The Coldest Warrior - 12/16/01 - “As the CIA’s sorcerer, Gottlieb had also attempted to raise assassination to an art form. Out of his labs had come a poisoned handkerchief designed to do in a Libyan colonel, a bacteriological agent for a Congolese leader and debilitating potions intended for Cuba’s Fidel Castro. (None of these toxins are known to have found their mark.) Hounded by reporters, congressional investigators and his victims, Gottlieb had virtually vanished from Washington in the mid-1970s…But Olson’s death didn’t end CIA-funded experiments with LSD… according to records made public in the mid-’70s, the funding and scope of that research expanded. Many of the details will likely never be known. Gottlieb had destroyed the MK-ULTRA files just before retiring. The records might be “misunderstood,” he had said.” Washingtonpost.com

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just a snipit;;http://web.archive.org/web/20011214062825/http://www.newphys.se/elektromagnum/physics/KeelyNet/biology/mind4.asc



PRINCIPLES OF HUMAN CONTROL AND REACTION TO CONTROL

There are progressive steps in exercising control over an
individual and changing his behaviour and personality integration.

The following five steps are typical of behaviour changes in any
controlled individual:

1. Making the individual aware of control is the first stage
in changing his behaviour. A small child is made aware of
the physical and psychological control of his parents and
quickly recognizes that an overwhelming force must be
reckoned with.
So, a controlled adult comes to recognize the overwhelming
powers of the state and the impersonal, "incarcerative"
machinery in which he is enmeshed. The individual
recognizes that definite limits have been put upon the ways
he can respond.

(Approved for Release) (62-80750-2712X)
(Date: 8 FEB 1984)

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2. Realization of his complete dependence upon the controlling
system is a major factor in the controlling of his behavior.

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The controlled adult is forced to accept the fact that food,
tobacco,praise, and the only social contact that he will get
come from the very interrogator who exercises control over
him.

3. The awareness of control and recognition of dependence re
sult in causing internal conflict and breakdown of previous
patterns of behaviour.
Although this transition can be relatively mild in the case
of a child, it is almost invariably severe for the adult
undergoing brainwashing. Only an individual who holds his
values lightly can change them easily.
Since the brainwasher-interrogators aim to have the
individuals undergo profound emotional change, they force
their victims to seek out painfully what is desired by the
controlling individual.
During this period the victim is likely to have a mental
breakdown characterized by delusions and hallucinations.

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and this is why im not very well liked because when i point out to a group of people your alll brainwashed and they just walked in here and did it right in front of everyone and you all fell for it why do you think certain people usinng these techniques dont like me around then you guy s the very ones im trying to help cant stand me because im forcing you to look at the slaves youve become,,it is also why the people that use this nead ot gang up on me in such numbers because what they can do to a large group the4y cannot do to me but i can break groups free,,,,ive watched these suckas work most of my life..
4. Discovery that there is an acceptable solution to his
problem is the first stage of reducing the individual's
conflict.
It is characteristically reported by victims of brainwashing
that this discovery led to an overwhelming feeling of relief
that the horror of internal conflict would cease and that
perhaps they would not, after all, be driven insane.
It is at this point that they are prepared to make major
changes in their value-system. This is an automatic rather
than voluntary choice. They have lost their ability to be
critical.

5. Reintergration of values and identification with the cont-
rolling system is the final stage in changing the behaviour
of the controlled individual.
A child who has learned a new, socially desirable behaviour
demonstrates its importance by attempting to as apt the new
behaviour to a variety of other situations. Similar states
in the brainwashed adult are (SECTION DELETED BY CIA)
pitiful.
His new value-system, his manner of perceiving, organizing,
and giving meaning to events, is virtually independent of
his former value system. He is no longer capable of
thinking or speaking in concepts other than those he has
adopted.
He tends to identify by expressing thanks to
his captors for helping him see the light.
Brainwashing can be achieved without using illegal
means.
Anyone willing to use known principles of control and
reactions to control and capable of demonstrating the
patience needed in raising a child can probably achieve
successful brainwashing.

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oh this is the communist version; it is also part of what they have done to me over the years it hass almost socialy incompasitated me emotionaly due to the way this has ben done.
Control of Communication. This is one of the most effective
methods for creating a sense of helplessness and despair. This
measure might well be considered the cornerstone of the
communist system of control.
It consists of strict regulation of the mail,reading
materials, broadcast materials, and social contact available
to the individual. The need to communicate is so great that
when the usual channels are blocked, the individual will
resort to any open channel, almost regardless of the
implications of using that particular channel.
Many POWs in Korea, whose only act of "collaboration" was to
sign petitions and "peace appeals," defended their actions on
the ground that this was the only method of letting the
outside world know they were still alive.
Many stated that their morale and fortitude would have been
increased immeasurably had leaflets of encouragement been
dropped to them.
When the only contact with the outside world is via the
interrogator, the prisoner comes to develop extreme dependency
on his interrogator and hence loses another prop to his
morale.

Another wrinkle in communication control is the informer
system. The recruitment of informers in POW camps discouraged
communication between inmates. POWs who feared that every act
or thought of resistance would be communicated to the camp
administrators, lost faith in their fellow man and were forced
to "untrusting individualism." Informers are also under
several stages of brainwashing and elicitation to develop and
maintain control over the victims.

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yep, there it is remnants of the cold war,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe that is the confusion ive had ive ben getting crapped on by both sides, now i know why, i just didnt want to admit that it was still going on and that since 1997 these cold war comunists that hate vets around here have ben running a ramped up op,,,,,,,........
now it gets interesting with the time lines begining in 1979:eek: let me see the year the beating started and i noticed a dramatic change in the household, maybe step-dady found out something or was recrueted because it does appear as if that was what i was used for begining in 76, either they pre-washed (brainwash warning brainwashing)me
in the next post i will post the one about the child that was sent in to get info on the ones that were running the realy horrble stuff but for now i just want to stick with this
the russians are here
1979 agant Robert Philip Hanssen began selling Americas most guarded intelleigence secrets for over 22 years,,,,,,,,,,,,,1990 Louis J. Freeh discoverd a mole within the bureau,,,,,,,,,then on february 18, 2001 the FBI arrested Hanssen.......

oh in 83 hanssen was also asked to investigate the polygraph and if i would help counter intelligence,,,,,,,,,,,,,so he not only headed but also vetted.

what does this all have to do with me well it was around 97-98 that i underwent a month of testing, from iq to eye hand, they came back to me with the results astounded and then i was offerd 2 years college of my choice then onto Quintico (intel shcool for fbi and marines),,,,,,so now ya know how the marines fit they go to the same school...........i thought it was of that the highest ranking marine corps reserve officer was giving me my eye hand cordination test, when i asked why he did this job his response was moonlighting parttime,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya know like a police officer mooonlighting as a security gaurd, i wonder what someone of that rank in the marines would moonlight as.......................................Then it is also then that the weird dreams started of warzones and such, so if they were fisshing around in my noodly then maybe thats why some thought me to be Howe:eek: i get a bit hottheaded and hate copetition to.................Then there are all the connections to where i live now,,,,,,,all of the retired ex-army and such,,,,,,,,,seams alot of them were naval intel and such,,,,,,,,,,now what would happen if a little navyintel ahole hops in bead with these guys, now what if this older gentalman had a son about my age in a certain unit privy to info on past members and familys and such (oh im getting pissed just thinking about it),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but then it was found that this guys uncle may have also ben the guy to sell out the manhatan project to the russians,,,,,,,,i wonder if the son is clean or not, i know what its like to be betrayed by family,,,,,,,,,,,,,gues ive become a lighting rod for these types,,,,,,,,,so much so its like being in the middle of a complex spy game and im the principle for both sides,,,,,,,,,,,,,now i know why the Jesuit was so worried and made it his personel bussines to find out what he could by befriending me, this guy left his bussiness in his kids hands and such for over 3 years to put time into messing with me:Dnow why would someone put so much tiime and risk a bussines and loose money to hang out with me,,,,,,,,,,,,i figured he is either a freind of my father's or he's one of them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i think he is one of them, after all he kept asking who i worked for,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they got so wrapped up in spying and such i slipped under the radar because now ive got a colostomy and they were only on the lookout for the real me for somereason and they thought i was a double or something because i underwent a personality im really fucking pissed change........................................Now i know how they gott away with it,,,,,,,,and to tell ya i think they operate out of Georgia (formaly ussr)they went there in 1995 as a base under the guy that was edjucated hear and wen there in 1995 to start the war of the Roses and separate from Russia because they were recalling all cold war crap, and USA and USSR were actualy shutting down allot of projects involved with the cold war,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh but what was happening when i started to post something about Georgia and Russia going at it, and then the weird thing is i get a good fealing when i see or think of Putin almost like he is a freind from another neighborhood and now that the hoods are getting along we can be the men we want to be, but then there is all this other crap left over to sort threw:eek: oh and the plot thickens down to the wire baby,,,,,,,,,,so unless your in a uniform with paper work at a desk and im standing there and you give me a official document to sign and tell me to curb my discussing or writing about such things you can throw all the threats ya want and bitch and wine(i will enjoy it) ive heard a fucking lot of it:eek: ,,,,,,,,,,i love being predictable it makes them predictable now what predictability am i looking for and what unpredictability there is or am i looking for the predictble:confused:moley moleeeeee oxenfree:rolleyes: what was my mission again, why was i what some call capped, did it happen in 93 or 97 or both, was i retired or called back in 97 that is the question, but then i grew up durring the cold war and i knew the only thing i can trust and follow it God and that is where my loyalty is and always will be, so what was that about One Nation Under God thing(i figured out as a boy as long as your following God and i am all will be well because then we have the same boss and if usa is under God then that is what i protect)

And for those that keep trying to say its getting resolved and to calm down and such, show me your credentials assholes because after over 15 years of threats and such without any damage unless i was drunk and did it myself your pissing in the wind and you know it. So maybe some of you should take another look at who your following they may be the real enemy and im the real ally............Like ive always said my loyaltys ultimatly are with God then the people(citizens)....................

more curcumsatial evidence and such,,,,,,,,,

http://eassurvey.wordpress.com/category/mk-ultra/A Dr. John Gittenger tested me and Dr. Cameron gave me the shocks and Dr. Greene the X-rays. Then, I was told by Sid (Dr. Gottlieb),”I was ripe for the big A” - meaning artichoke, I learned later. By the time I left to go home, just like every other time from then on, I would recall nothing of my tests or the different doctors. I would only remember what explanations Dr. Robert G. Heath (of Tulane Medical School) gave me for the odd bruises, needle marks, burns on my head and fingers and even the genital soreness. I had no reason to believe otherwise. Already, they had begun to control my mind!

By the next year when I turned 9; I was sent to a place in Maryland called Deep Creek Caverns to learn how “to sexually please men”. I was taught also how to coerce them into talking about themselves and then I had to prove my accurate recall. Richard Helms, Dr Gottlieb, George White and Morse Allen all planned on entrapping as many officials, agency targets, heads of academic institutions and foundations. Later if the funding started to dwindle or the head of the agency - John McCone decided he could no longer tolerate children being tortured, abused and shot full of biologicals and radiation; then he would be forced to continue the projects at all cost. I was to become a regular little “spy” for them after that summer, entrapping many unwitting men, with the use of hidden cameras. I was only 9 when this began.

Twice I overheard conversations concerning a place or part of the agency called ORD (Office of Research and Development) run by Dr. Greene, Dr. Stephen Aldrich, Martin Orne and Morse Allen. Once a crude remark was made by Dr. Gottlieb about a possible leak over in New Orleans East, involving a large group of retarded children who werebeing given massive doses of radiation. He asked, why Wilson was “so worried about a few retarded kids? After all, they would be the least likely kids to spill the beans!”




I believe this once great nation of ours has a right to know just what is fact and what is fiction. It is our greatest protection against the possibility of this ever happening again. If, by some chance, it has continued to this day, it needs to be stopped!

Now, I leave this matter in your capable hands. I can offer no more than what I have given you today…the truth! Thank you for your time.
Claudia Stewart Mullen (Chrystal Stone) - March 15, 1995


but maybe i shouldnt explain the time frame and backfire set concerning this stuff, i gues i wasnt realy ever retired or recalled, let me see 1986-2008 is 22 years so im in my 23rd year which is retirement i believe,,,,,,,,,,and in my humble opinion ive done my job as an American,,,,,,,,,,,and by the way it is going to get interesting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so fckoff, how did madoof do it;)

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Fast, Factual, Faithful:confused:

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by the way Jesuit we dont have to arrest all of you because most were not even aware of who they hired on with, every see an assembly line or factory,,,,,,,,,what it begins as is not always how it looks when finished,,,,,,,,,so we just need the machinery and bosses in the know:eek:,,,,uhoh you better find a scape goat quike:eek:

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ya what fcking happend to my dcips sponnsor letter and such huh VR.:Dbut hay it all works out when you have faith.

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;):D;)

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According to the lawsuit, some of the volunteers were even implanted with electrical devices in an effort to control their behavior

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here is what happend when i tried to scan my images into the computer that is dirrectly related to my last post and this is what came out both times.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=1981&albumid=48&dl=1232426997&thumb=1 http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=1982&albumid=48&dl=1232426997&thumb=1

these are two seprate scans of strange mri with hardware, i wonder why 7 was what was scaned each time, so i think i will just let it sit until tomorow maybe it is about the post and the law suit involved in SF CA.

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and by the way the only thing done to above my collar bone was tonsils and tubes in my ears nothing like what is in the picture, it resembles a stereo taxic device.

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now that it is official thank God, today is a proud day for all those that came before us as well as Obama's bravery for taking on the responsibility for being the first and holds office with integrity and honor,,,but who knows he is only a man, this is about more than him or anyone alive right now this is about all those before us and those that will come after, we can pat ourselves on the back after weve made a change in dirrection.

For those familar with the underground railroad will recognize the name kimball,,,we did more than make the railroad better and help connect the rairoad but we also created the underground railroad to free slave's so today is an especialy proud day for me,,,,,i will watch the inauguration replay, i was at a meeting and then of to my first day learning and an appointment, i litteraly felt as if today was partly for me and my family(father's side)and some of ?moms?,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe that explanes a bit to some about my situation and the turmoil in my life, the reason why i cannot just tell a racist to go fck off , most are just misstought not ignorant and that is a big problem, they were fed false info about history under the guess of hidden knowledge and such,,,,,,,,,but why would i be a target durring the cold war as well as the race war, and allot of it was because of the incesant attempts to recruit me into several very bad groups one of em was racist, then the others speed dealing, coke and prostitution, hitman/contractor, porno's, pedophilia, extremist, etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

now im going to tell you there was a group withing RV that specialized in blackmail and such, there was also something called phoenix that used remote influencing, oh the RV group were called witches, so on one end i had a bird burning my ass and in the front a bunch of witches trying to entrap me into there little coven through any means necessary,

now imagine after 38 years of this and i still have a little sanity left and wits with minimal legal problems and have proven my innocence time and time again even before im told most of the time then they ramped it up and it became very personel, ive always known:cool: but i liked the whole mgyver concept, and ive had to defend myself against adults since babyhood in a few different ways,,,,,,,,,,my step-mother and her friends knew how powerfull/tough i was compared to them just as the russians found out and they knew if i lived they would have problems,,,,,,,,,,,,ya stepmom i knew in washington why you and her asked why i hadnt committed suicide yet as well as why you told me not to learn witchcraft, must have ben a suprise when i called in 98-99 alive,,, beaten by an untrained tortured and beaten little boy that has ben psycicly attacked and people constantly trying to set me up my whole life, OUCH THATS GOTTA HURT,

i wonder if you guys knew it was possibly a Kalki, Rama type dude you did it to,,,,but you know what i think the Russians are allot more respectful than her and her people, maybe that is why i get warm fuzzy's when i see putin, weird huh, maybe its a true warrior thing, an understanding of certain things.

THis new presidency might be just the kick start america needs to reclaim the american spirit:D:cool::D

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about the mri, well the Chinese already have copys of them so i realy dont see a need right now or a need not to, ya i know why i saw that dr to as well as the russian and why it was the chinese one that lost them for 3 months, but thats old news(about 5-6 years old news), but who knows maybe it was a korean im not realy up on racial profiling,,,,,,,,,,and now maybe the racist element will die down more in our military and other areas.

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maybe i should touch on Montalk and such, i think those cassiopeon papers are way off.

ive noticed that peoples attention span is only active when it is invovled in a soap opera type drama and fed an us against them diet.

Well i can now say i have ben accused of everything, i also have suffered the being an outcast for the accusations ......

it was about 8 years ago that i found out the level of accusations and the coninuous attempts to catch me doing things i dont do as well as the attempts to frame me.

crazy when my accusers were asked why JXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX is not in jail or dead im pretty sure they were told its because of my father or something to that effect....

for the record when in 1993-94 when i called my GRandfather for advice and assistance with a spiritual matter it was for my abilitys as well as to try to inform him of the intent of those around me.

you see some of what i left out was the attempts by some includeing my fiance at the time was to try to get me to have homosexual relations with a man in front of her for her fantasy, she also wanted me to sleep with a 13 year old girl, because i went against this everytime she abused me everychance she got,,,,,

maybe i should just list what theyy wanted me to become or do and some of them are still around doing it still.

hitman.
drug dealer.
prostitute.
pimp.
pornstar.
leg breaker.
front fence.
blackmailer.
pedophile.
rapeist.
assassin.
terrorist.
baby killer.
woman beater.
slave.
brain washer. im sure a few other things but those are the high points.

that is what they wanted me to be now the closest i came to anyof this is, alcoholic, driver and body guard for escorts(never touched or used), analyst, dish washer, greasy spoon cook, carpet cleaner, deacon, fire keeper,.....

and then there is the few diplomas or certificates that i remember getting and doing for my entire life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,graduation from the California Conservation Corps (top class crew one), GED, CERT(community ermergency response team)certificate.

so the accusations realy dont add up looking at my expereinces and such as well as the choices and other things in my life say i am the exact opposite to many of the things i was accused of.

And by the way i like my women as old or older, i think 21 year old hottie's look a bit young,,,,and you know what allot of the time when this subject is brought up someone tries to convince me that my taste in women should be like theres, damit i like my girlfreind to be of similar age is there realy something wrong with me because i like them my age and not 20+ years younger.

just wanted to get that done and said.

and i think it very distastefull for adults to speak of children in a sexual context of any type, includeing when a father talks about his sons penis,,,,,,,,,,,,,realy who gives a shit thats the childs bussiness, then also the childs bussines when it becomes an adult...

i just have to say it does appear as if the whole sexual freedom crap went way overboard, leave the children out of your sexual revalution.

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interesting that last post was at the exact moment of the wall st opening bell.:rolleyes::cool::rolleyes:

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14 year old boy shows up at a chicago police department dressed as officer and says hes from another precinct, then goes on patrole with a partner, 5 hours later they get back to the station and a senior officer at the station gets suspicous,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,5 on patrole as well as the station a 14 year old boy..........

my point is this is how blind most people are, not even the pros know there own anymore.:eek:

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it just dawned on me that maybe some think i should have the memory of a druid, well im not a druid. That and then there are the dreams i had as a small boy that it also downed on me that those dreams were also near the time the hypnosis began, those dreams were the dreams and memories of Rama maybe that is why i am the way i am about forgiveness and carrying a weopon yet never using it as i promised sita, i rember that very moment as well as the broken bow, these are things i have never read or told anyone since then as far as i can recall,,,,,,,,,,,,allthough there was more colors and it was in that archway i stood it was like a rectangle ampetheater, there was also some sort of tapestrie,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, maybe that is why they wanted to keep me as uneducated and unremembering as possible,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i thought them to be fancifull dreams of childhood but as ive typed on this forum more has ben revieled to myself about myself as well as my early childhood,,,,it is strange that i recall i thought as an adult, i was logical and looked in my heart about things, it was after the hypnosis sesions that guardians started going to the bar and taking me along as well as my step-father's best freind started coming around along with others, things started to change and my life drasticly changed over night, i was then treated like a dog, literally that included my face being rubbed in my own shit, the night i had the first dream that ever frightend me happend at this same time, it was of my grandfather chasing me and trying to turn me into a werewolf . (and when i went into my moms room because i was scared shitless i was made to lay at the foot of the bed on the floor),,,,which by the way at this point wouldnt suprise me, either the mythical or the nazi type seing as he was slavic, yet he was Croatian which were allied with the nazi's and there was an intelligence/secret group that planned and then escaped to who knows where, it is on his side of the family that an ancestor was the first in the catholic church to control a demon,,,,,,,,,,,,guess they thought they could control the angelic also.

Maybe this is also why my mother has feared me since i was around 5-6, this is by her own admission, by the way up to this point i was also in private school and was very well adjusted and no problem, i was even chased by all the girls. After that hypnosis that happened in or near the Masonic Temple in SF CA USA is realy when alot changed probley the most drastic because i went from having magical dreams such as those of Rama with Sita, sometimes when i was alone i would sit down or take a type of nap where i traveled threw a vortex of sorts that was when i saw the tower of bable,,,,,,,,,so either i was told a story of rama and the bow and sita and i in the garden,,,,,,,,,,,but i remember telling her not to worry i would only use the weopon if absalutly provoked,,,,,,,,,this maybe why my old freind yellow owl as well as myself and a Sifu and Dan were a bit surpised,,,,,but it was yellow owl that realy saw it durin a boken type sparing, before his first move was finished i was behind him with him on his knees and my boken at his throat(good thing wooden katana's)and a few years later i found out why my gift came completly out when i sparred with him(he is of the house of Habsburg), he told me a few things and let a few slipp, one was when he realized the marks i have includeing the one on my thigh, that is why he could not bring himself to take my head and i knew he would not, as he also knew that i could have easly taken the katana from him and it would have ben self defence yet he neaded to warn me that because of his decision and family he had to warn me ,,,,,,,,he also use terms like playbooks and such like a whos who type thing.

So maybe now he realizes that when it talks about the Rider of the White horse i am not the anti-christ or the pale horse, and the mark i carry is on my thigh and as it says it is a name known only to me, on my robe it is written king of kings lord of lords and it dawned on me that my sundance scars are ten in number one for each commandment, in the native american ways the skin is also called a robe.

So why is it such a stretch for me to assume that even if i dont believe all of this that there is truth to it that some do and may have caused me great distress as well as them being frightened to have me around them especialy if they dable in what may be consider to be of a dark/evil artform,,,,,,,i know the differnce between earth magic and shitawakan(badmedicine), interesting that the only lakota word i know for evil would sound alot like shit.:D its like my stepdad knew it when he stuck my face in it as a little boy and the botched surgery and being incontinent for over 30 years(psychological warfare)

So what if i am this reincarnation is it realy up to me what happens, oh ya then there are those waiting for me to say my name, how do you know i havent already, after all i am the Only One that knows it other than God himself,,,,,,,,,then there might be those that think they can speed up the process and try to make me say it.

So maybe they should have started to listen when i came back from my first vision quest saying that the animals and birds called me Singing Feather, this is my real name, later on i found a book in the local library with this title and found out that it is the Creation story to the local tribes in the Lost Coast Area of which was my first vision quest where i also saw the cross of lorain on the ocean as well as a rabbit that came to sit on the edge of my circle, it was also during my realeasing cerimony that there was a merteor shower. To this day i still wonder why the cheif of the standing buffalo clan insisted on naming me the one that comes from the sunset, when i questioned this he then just added the singing feather onto it and said it meant i was the one that carried the word of God under my wings,,,,,,i know this is part of what my mothers family was up to, because my great aunt was the granddaughter of War Eagle and Sitting Bull, the goverment wanted to control the medicine people of the native americans and even would mary into them, the catholic church realy did allot of damage to the native americans. So imagine that one family married into not only the heir to the Line of Pendragon but also that of the Sioux, imagine controling the line of two chiefs and a king, then to boot that king has alot of Merovingian traits.........So if the Cousin of a Chief learns the ways of the Sundance, Inipi, Chanupa, Tokala, and is also a Merovingian Pendragon and it was the ways of the Native Americans that kept his heart pure do you think he would be a force to reckon with as well as have a soft spot in his heart for the Native Americans, oh ya did i mention the Apache part just a touch on one of my grandmothers side, and if you ever seen that movie Hunted with Tomy lee Jones about the special forces guy being tracked by his teacher youve seen the capability of the Apache, the Apache were like a combination ninja samari native american peace loving peyote eating dont fuch with us type bunch, even the Aztecs and such have stories of the Apache/Anastazi:eek:

I wonder why the show called the Last Templar is on and it looks as if the mane charecter might be named Sean?

Then in that recent King ARthur movie Arthurs assistant is named Jols, change the spelling a little and take out the ownership conotation and that is my first name, almost like they were calling him by who he was ownded by, almost a slapp in my face because i hate slavery or ownership of another human being. So out of all the names that would have bean more akin to the story instead of Jols would have ben less obviouse
But then why would i also live in an area that has close tys to hollywood,,,,,,,i meen imagine a year after you find out who is your great grandpapy a movie comes out and the main charecter is also your ansestor and his assistant has a name that sound like calling him Jols whatever:mad:that and the theme of the movie.
just filling in a few gaps in what has occured as a result of some of the old MK-ultra stuff, after all my early childhood was in SF CA and i cut allot of shool and forged notes and went to museums and such, i usualy alway ended up in those places or around office building exploring the city, imagine a little boy between the ages of 5-13 running aroung a city never being touche and always averting danger as well as spending allot of time in museums and the palace of fine arts learning, i guess you might say i have a bit of a backwards education,,,,but the strange thing is i also took some kinda computer class at the museum around 82-83 as well as having a tape driven drive and little computer that i hooked up to the little tv in my room, then a call and it was the man on my birth certificate that i only saw once before about 4 years prior in the Haight Ashbury around 79 or so all i remeber about that time realy is a car show then a surgery then he disappeared,,,,,,so then it was of to him for a time on the edge of a rain forrest, it was then that i realy realized i was a bit differnt than other kids.


So for now im going with it even though my logical mind tells me how arrogant and assuming i am for even thinking this all, but then also there is the experiences and other evidence as well as what my heart tell me,,, then also the Gideon type prayer and im not about to argue with God, then i asked myself what is the only thing that is diffrent about me that would make God choose me and honestly all i can figure is ive taken the most shit dirrected at me as an individual without any cause without permanently fucking someone up,,,,,,,,,,,maybe its like a spiritual red button and God knows who can handle it.

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the Jewish Buddhist asks his student in Aikido how can you follow a Native American Red Road Christian path, the student says how can you be a jewish buddhist:cool:

now i know why it never sat right when i spoke to most American buddhists, they did not even know the path they claimed and my heart knew this, that is why i tried to find a common sprititual ground with them other than buddhism.

the Buddhists ive come in contact with are usualy of the ex special forces type or ex-CIA (if that exists), so you may understand why i never botherl looking to deap into western buddhism, yet ive always had a soft spot for Buddhism i just knew i wasnt being exposed to the real deal it looked like most Church's to me...Think about it men that have made careers out of killing and destroying lives trying to tell me something and claiming to have followed a path of buddhism and then they preach the honor and protect all life dont kill anything the Dali Lama is the greatest(no offense Dali),,,,,,,,,,so you can see how i saw the false buddhism i see as well as false christianity, earth magics/paganism, and native american spirtitual practices,,,,,,,,,,,,it get a bit much at time to constantly see the truths as well as falsehoods in these ways, i refuse to accept a false teaching yet i will not throw out the truth because you or other's say you must accept the false with the truth and i say you fucking cant have it bolth ways you fools,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WHY dont we break it down, the truth is what it is, i have found it in every path ive ben shown, each path it was i alone with others watching me as i delved into it in the way it presented itself,,,,but you know what is a bit creapy now that i look back, some have debated me a bit and some even may get a bit pissy, but they rarely if ever realy argue or tell me i wrong, they may act as if or role there eye's, now for the record if flat out said you guys are arrogant fools that are using it for your own sick desires, but they dont listen they just ignor and well sooner they start the cursing and such because they fear that im some whatever, or just some crazy loon with an attitude, i say the same thing they say about the christians, as well as defend them against christians i even tell the christians allot of the time they are of base and to look at the bible again and find where the ways of the bible are the same as any buddist, native american, pagan, earth worshiping hippie.

So maybe this is also why the only teacher ive ever had realy was more or less a brother that realy listend mor than he taught and the other well he helped me with my drinking problem and to calm down a bit, i mean fuck give me a break and just try to put yourself in my shoes, go ahead and realy give it some thought could you live and make it threw just 5 years of what ive experienced.

Sometimes i tell people how i admire there tolerance of certain things and can look the other way without being to upset, basicly that is a capability i do not have,,,,,,and i accept that,,,,,,,but i am being nice,,,,,,becuase the truth of the matter is i dont have tolerance and capacity to go along with lie's and deceitful ways so i follow a diffrent path than most and now im learning to write and math with a bit of tai chi also, funny that someone i know told me they dropped the class because the instructor would not show them the movement fast, he said that is why he could not do it was because he neaded to do it and see it fast first,,,funny that is the same thing i told that very same guy that made that excuse that it is easer for me to do those types of moves fast but i need to practice them slow to continue my learning/remembering about 1-2 years ago and now when i go and sign up for the class he is all of a sudden dropped the class using the very thing i told him about myself as an excuse,,,,,,,,,,,im there and some try to say im a demon or something else not of there understanding,,,GUESS THEY NEVER MET ONE OF MY TYPE RAMA! Maybe i first had to be a wisdom king of sorts,,,,,,,,,,,,funny thing is ive made the same choices that a buddha would make now that i reflect on this yet ive never divorced myself from the world, maybe its time i go visit the local buddhist temple that ive only drove past, heck its even a landmark here, its called the City of 10,000 buddhists and it is like a small town,,, it used to be a mental hospital until Ronald Reagan shut it down.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b8/CTTBgate.jpg/267px-CTTBgate.jpg

maybe it is time i went and visited and asked a few questions, after all this past couple of mnts ive learned more about buddhism than ive ever ben exposed to, and it is funny that i am always going to these ways, like they say when the student is ready the Teacher will appear, never said for what, maybe its simply to say you got some of the truth but hay that is a bit off and here it is over there in its pure form surrounded by the untruths of those peoples,,,,,,,,,,you see what ive seen is most paths have truth surrounded by allot of crappppppppppppppppppppppppppp and that is why people from other beliefs never realy accept the other ones with a peice of truth.:cool:

[kimball13]

the begining to present in a few pictures and guess what the time frames match up, the funny thing is i always had this stuff in the back of my mind and just thought what a weird threorie or story then i saw the movie's:eek:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Ludlum_-_The_Bourne_Identity_Coverart.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c9/Paycheck_filmposter.jpg/200px-Paycheck_filmposter.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/21/Hunted2003post.jpg/200px-Hunted2003post.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/59/Movie_poster_king_arthur.jpg/200px-Movie_poster_king_arthur.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ad/The_Bourne_Legacy.jpg/200px-The_Bourne_Legacy.jpg

there is a reason for the 2003 movie right after the 1980 book turned into TV miniseries and then movie in 2002,,,,,,,,,but then i never heard of the Borne series until i saw the movie as well as the others yet i speculated and asked questions of people on these very subjects.

[kimball13]

January 30th, 2009
Vatican to Study Women’s Religious Orders in US
The Vatican announced it has launched a comprehensive study of women’s religious orders in the United States. The study is being led by an American nun headquartered in Rome. Her task will be to “look into the quality of the life” of women religious and make a confidential report. The Vatican statement highlighted concerns that the number of nuns in the US has dropped dramatically over the last 40 years.http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/files/2009/01/vaticanstudyraw1.png
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/headlines/vatican-to-study-women’s-religious-orders-in-us/2139/







maybe the nuns/women just could not handle the stuff the vatican was doing, that seams to be the answer just give them raises, after all it could never be the pedophilia run rampant in that organization.

[kimball13]

i just got back from a trip revisiting childhood playgrounds and guess what i found, a treasure trove of memories unearthed and confirmed.

to begin with the Masonic temple, Scottish rite, in the Temple complex on the south side facing west is the entrance to the language and speech clinic and such, something to do with language and hearing,,,,but the word CLINIC stuck out as well as the medical facility appearance, and it was just as i remember in my fragmented memories about it being either nextdoor or in or both and as it turns out even though the building is in very diffent appearance to the temple it is still the same building and along with that on the clinics main sign it says Scottish Rite clinic,,,,,,,,,,along with that was also alot of memories of China town and such im sorting through, including my favorite parks(i felt truly at home:))

Another strange thing is i did not plan the trip i just had the time and oppurtunity and went, and when i arrived as i checked in at the hotel a group of women all wearing teira's (crowns) came walking by, i asked whats going on, the man said they are the beuty pagent contestants for chinese new year.

now is where it becomes a bit cosmic,,,,, because im standing there with a lion on my back and two rhinos on the front and its the year of the ox, to boot my family crest has a red and golden(yellow) lion on it, the year of the ox places the lion at the top of the chart and the Lion has a great deal to do with the year to come,,,,,,,,so there im standing and it strikes me that i am doing exactly what im supposed to be doing being who i am, i as well it must be obvios what has happend by now,,,, but i went back to were my happiest childhood memories are, somehow i ended up with a room where the Miss china town contestants stayed as well as where the chinese cultural center is housed as well as the end of the parade,,,,,,,then the day of the parade was my check out (im not a million heir after all)and had to take the car to get the brakes checked and i drove right along side of the parade at the very beginning, and hear is the strange thing is the Hotel i was at was at the end of the route,,,,you see i knew what i was doing and also i knew that it will be diffrent some day and i will be given my rightful titles ,,,,,,,you see it poured down rain the night before the parade but the day of the parade was clear and sunny t-shirt weather,,,,,,,,,ive heard some wisper something about sungod or something of the sorts....

It was good to visit the old town and remember things i forgot, the wonderment of the Jade Emperor and such
i then realized that allot of my repressed memories were/are actualy good ones, i wonder why!!!!!!!!!
the favorite park is also where the first public school in California was built (in china town) and it was built by the Masons, it is also where the chinese cultural center is,,,i also had time to walk in all the neighbor hoods i have always felt at home in(including tenderloin and polk, after all i remember being a small boy and being well respected and honored by the people),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,imagine that a small white boy(to all appearances) wandering around not only china town but also the red-light districts, that was my playground along with other parts of the city,,,,,,,it was a very rare occasion that i found my self in any sort of jam,,,,,,,,,,,

But like i wrote earlier something happened a little bit after the visits to the Masonic temple clinic(it was about that time ex-mother became afraid of me) it was also at this time that almost all affection and decency went out the window, but there still was china town and other parts of the city,,,,,,,,,ya what happend huh.

who knows maybe it all began with me knowing and some other's knowing exactly who and what i am,,,,,,,,but hay it was the 70's and all and what did they know of Indigo then anyways and then what if i am a reincarnated avatar or buddha in the line of Pendragon and Merovingian, then what if i not only am this Avatar/buddha reincarnated but also the first Pendragon/merovingian such as Melkezidek ,,,,,

then there is my birth day that has crept into the current info about it being of the 7/8th buddha of the weak sunday

http://images.myhealthwealthandhappiness.com/TD-ThaiBuddhasOfTheWeek/sundaymain2.jpg
Sunday's Buddha known as "The Buddha of Restraint" is also sometimes called "In Pensive Thought" and the "Thinking" Buddha. The Buddha stands with hands crossed over his abdomen, in pensive thought. His right hand is placed over the left, palms turning upward. Here, after attaining enlightenment, Buddha contemplated his achievements and knowledge, and stood still for 7 days under the Bodhi Tree to contemplate the suffering of all living things. It is said that this is the time he began his journey to places to spread his new doctrine. People born on a Sunday are usually best known for their empathetic and sympathetic spirits, and their kind-hearted souls.


i learned of this buddha from an email thing i recieved after my return from the city after the chinese new years celabration,,,,also strange that it is what the Buddha did under the Bodhi Tree that is what i find myself doing very often. There is also the storys of Kalki and such, as well as something about attaining enlightnenment in 7 days and achieving it on the 7th............anyways it seamed very interesting haveing memories comeback that i buried as well as seing the signifigance in a great deal of it, if you think of it, it is actualy a bit fitting that a Pendragon would gravitate towards China Town and feal right at home, as well as showing up out of almost an instictual nature durint a fesitval and find myself staying at the very center of the festival and having the princesses of china town show up to walk by on there way to dinner, another strange thing happend that i noticed was it was at the very moment i removed my hat that the procession of candidates walked by, i set it on the counter and turned around and there they where a whole crowd of women with princess tiaras on there heads and me standing there dressed for the occasion in a casual just arrived style(muscle car and all, even gets 27 miles to the gallon hwy) after all how else could a Pendragon role into something such as the chinese new year festival, like i said a bit cosmic especialy the cercumstances that led to the funds i came into (a little but enough for a weakend)and a car rental given me for 10 days (and a fitting ride, although i would modifie it if i owned it)) then it was a spur of the moment decision to go and i had no knowledge of what time of year it was as well as the hotel i got a room in like i said is also where the miss china town contestants as well as it being a mane focal point for the events, my reservation for the room was made only about 3 hours before my arrival,,,it was a veryt nice time and dont be alarmed but i enjoyed doing a driving meditation and prayer, you see there are meditations that most do to shut out our shut down or purge, i prefer a meditation of awareness with intent and prayer during movement whether in travel or of a martial arts style,,it was a very magical weakend.

[kimball13]

The Vishnu Sahasranama[7] declares Vishnu as Paramatma (supreme soul) and Parameshwara (supreme God). It describes Vishnu as the All-Pervading essence of all beings, the master of—and beyond—the past, present and future, the creator and destroyer of all existences, one who supports, sustains and governs the Universe and originates and develops all elements within.

interesting that is the same name and meaning of it that i received after my first vision quest, it was told to me that it ment i had the ability to sustain or destroy something WehoPeyata Eh Mani(basicly the one that comes with the power of the thunder beings also, the imposible becomeing possible)pretty creapy i must say. but then what does kalki have to do with it.

[kimball13]

interesting that the Buddha previose to Kalki is the thinking one, one that has already ben hear , but then ther is also the number 11 and what it plays in my life, the reason why i put the 13 is for very basic reasons not associated with my personel self it is more of a representation of the friday the 13th massacre and what those men sacraficed to scurry away the secrets that may have protected my family, so that is why that is there as well as for the conspiracy buffs and the 13th bloodline stuff as in merovingian M=13,,,,,,,,,,K+M=24 (as in 24 elders) but then i dont suppose marry magedeline could have ben of Merovingian or pendragon but look at the time line and you will find that the area of which Pendragon held the Roman empire at bay is also where she went after the crusifiction, scary though huh the line's of Merovingian, Pendragon, and David becoming One, i do suppose that would cause a bit of a stir in the upper echelons somewhere, its all in the history books.... But what if the lines didnt cross or it wasnt time then just under 2000 years the bloodline not only crosses but it then also becomes known who is that One but they think he is to defective or they want to control him, both of which happend... ooopppsss!!!

To tell you the truth if i didnt spend years doing moral inventories and such, like a personel moral inventory about the tramatic events and things that urk me,,,,part of this process requires doing a type of autobiography as well as sharing it with someone else, kinda like a confessional,,,,,,,but i could never get realy honest because when i started to go into the very things ive written in this thread i would begin to shut down and inevitably get drunk, but the getting drunk never had to do with the unfortunate luck that would start everytime i started to uncover some of this,,,,,,,,,,,every single time i got close i would end up in some kind of bureaucratic mess in something that involved my basic rights as an american, there would always be something that was denying me of the rights afforded every one else, and even at allot of the time those that received them didnt even qualify ,,..

But hay it looks like i may have finnaly done that dang inventory with complete honesty and that also wraps up my amends list and such.

Imagine the karma those ones that sought to harm me since my very early childhood, after all ive done several inventorys and every time ive found something interesting, allot of it involved helping other's with no thought or intent to recieve any reward it was always in front of me and i was the one there that could do what needed to be done by instinct alone, almost on complete auto pilot, at times it was almost as if an angel comes down and me and the angel kind of merge and i am guided. It weirds me out a little because after words i always know that those involved wouldnt understand.

So i guess you could say ive ben a little dishonest to myself and other's because of my lack of understanding and fear as well as seing it in other's, but to be completely honest my dishonesty was a reflection of the dishonesty around me, i knew that what i experience would not be understood or it would be missused or both,,, maybe they did missuse me but now it is different,,,,,,,,,,as a boy i heard the animals say my name and comfort me, the other day i heard a dog with a scared neck cry for help for the animals, for his people also, it may have bin that plea that made me go to the city, i wonder if that is why the language clinic as a boy.

fuck im getting choked up, oh and ive bin in a good mood and not fucked with to much and low and behold exaclty what i said would happen happend, the Sun would let it rain,,,,,,,,so now that im on complete honesty i have to humble myself and at the same time say something that i felt was even arrogant to think but ive bin shown the same thing over and over again,,,,,,,,,,,,When im treated right and with respect and given my birthright and entitlements(Titles) as well as listened to as well as counseled with then it seams that certain things happen on a global scale as well as local,,, for instance there has bin a bitch of a drought were i live and then all of a sudden when i am given what ive not only worked for but is my right the rain comes gently at first(to prevent flooding) then a day of sunshine for the Parade then a healthy dose. Maybe birth signs mean something after all mine are the Moon and Sun:eek: ass well as being a Temple Dog in the chinese astrology(protector of the temple) and the 7th buddha(or 8th, depending on how you count the two on wednesday)

it is also intersting that the color of my birth buddha is red as well as that being the color of one of the lions on my crest, the golden one(yellow) holds the sword and it looks like it symbolizes in the spirit. Then the colors of the commemoration of a new dragon placed as the lead one its colors are red and gold.

the reason why i bring this up is that the Lion plays a very important role in the year of the Ox, and this Lion is also known as Pendragon, Head Dragon, so the placement of a new dragon in the parade and putting it at the head of the parade as well as it having the red and gold colors, it being on the 7th and 8th of the month and i was on the 7th floor(birth buddha 7or8th)did i mention the car i was driving was also the right color,,,,,,,,,,,then my just happening to drive down the right street at the right time to drive by the parade almost as if inspecting it as it went to celebrate and do its cerimony,,,,,and to tell you the truth it may sound strange but before the festival i drove around in a type of prayer meditation, but then what do you expect from my type to sit in the bar or hob nob in places im not invited formerly, shit i considerd it an honor to do it on the fly especialy when i realized all of the good memories i have as a small boy in china town.......And who knows maybe someday i will be able to attend it in a more formal way, but someone was a bit astonished when he found out where i got my room, the look on his face was kinda how do you rate getting a reservation on the fly like that the same day, like the guy that role up to the five star restaurant on the fly, but then china town is steeped in culture and does have old ties with the old masons, the real masonic order that founded america back when templars where Templars, so it would not surprise me if someone knew and not only had me in a data base but also kept a close watch on me during my walks and travels across the city, i wonder why it was people from several groups keeping tabs,,,,,,,it creaps me out a bit but i am more comfortable there that here because at least there there is more respect and such,,,,,,the reason why it creaps me a bit is because i noticed it was more than one group keeping a protective kindof watch, then also the numbers i noticed, in a couple hour span i estimated about 5 out of every 20 or so people were involved, and like i said several groups,,,,,,,,,so maybe this is no longer about my father or grandfathers or any of them anymore, i thought just trying to fill my grandfathers shoes was going to be tough but it looks like i may just bust the seems on his, it was not my intent to be better at anything just to be as humble and spiritual as i knew him, from what i understand he was well respected as a public speaker as a non-denominational minister and true Templar, i think fate may have overshot my goal a bit as just trying to uphold the code that is found in every culture and maybe even aspire to become a templar myself someday, but then i found out threw a series of unfortunate events that it was discovered who was the family of Arthur Pendragon and i ma the direct decedent of him then out of shear necessity and a lightning storm after years of looking at it (from time to time as metal and emotional state allowed) i finnaly said screw it and here it is in this thread,,,,,,,then the stuff i remembered and uncovered as i wrote.

So as fate has played it my life story is just as it was said it would be as well as what ive had to deal with including that mark on my thigh, shit after reading about all the achytyple stuff and my own inclination to research this type of stuff sooner or later it would dawn on me that the similarities where far to many to ignore, then the real mind fuck, the reason why my life realy hit the fan around 1997,,,,,,,,,,let me see princess Diana dies, the info about the coins and stones telling who king Arthur is is publicly released as well as the American Templars being taken over by a group of people with there own intentions...........

oh ya here is the Lions and my crest, also notice the cresent moons they symbolize crowns in that configuration, British+Scottish+Jerusalem=3, and if you look close enough you may notice that the red lion holds a star in his hand the sword held is more obvious
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=1856&albumid=49&dl=1231449628&thumb=1

[ianw]

King Arther, Excaliber, camolot ? The pen is mightier than the sword,scripts are writen for ´the wonderfull world of diseney´ all writen by the authors pen,dragon also lives in diseneys castle,comolot?normaly with a princess waiting to be rescude.quenavir? my little rant to spark y our imaganation.King Auther is suposed to rise in our time of need.If excaliber is with the lady of the lake,is this the pool,where we scibe a happy ending.merlin held the magic wond, wonds being made of holly wood.the song, the holy and the ivy,tells from all the trees that are in the wood. the holly bears the crown,have the secrets of king arther been moved to holly wood?

[kimball13]

King Arther, Excaliber, camolot ? The pen is mightier than the sword,scripts are writen for ´the wonderfull world of diseney´ all writen by the authors pen,dragon also lives in diseneys castle,comolot?normaly with a princess waiting to be rescude.quenavir? my little rant to spark y our imaganation.King Auther is suposed to rise in our time of need.If excaliber is with the lady of the lake,is this the pool,where we scibe a happy ending.merlin held the magic wond, wonds being made of holly wood.the song, the holy and the ivy,tells from all the trees that are in the wood. the holly bears the crown,have the secrets of king arther been moved to holly wood?

might me why Disney put the King Arthur exihbit on the 33 degree,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe that is also part of the Kimball connection.


Now i have to question why someone else was going online and telling my story, or i should say a few someones, and how did they know the name Rhino, that was a secret from around 1975-76 or so until about 1997 when i mentioned it to a fiance of mine, anyways the guy telling a very fictional acount at least got a few things right, then there is the project talent guy, Duncan may be real but i still dont know, he does have allot of info but the real ones dont have any record or anything that would suggest a millitary background.

But somewhere there is a drawing of a Rhino ramming a tree, an imovable force and object that i drew as a little boy, i drew it as a meditation and hypnosis tool for when i was afraid, like i mentioned earleir in the thread about the room with other kids.

there were maybe around 5-6 beds for patients, i was about the last or sometimes second to last bed, i remember something like sedatives at times as well as a center bed with equiptment around it on one side (i think it was on the east side of the bed). I remember being asked the question, would you like to be a super soldier, i said yes (i was only around 5), the man said you will be similar yet different than the rest.

So what are the odds that the heir to arthur would end up in Sanfransisco in a type of experiment, and did they know the extent of my bloodline and that my Grandfather was a Templar, they must have known he is Templar because the procedures happend at the Scottish rite clinic attached to and next door to the Masonic temple, but did they know then who the Pendragon line was/is, and also seams a bit karmic because if you think the predicament it would cause if they did there government stuff on one of the mane families but then it became known that it is the top one, this is not only found in history but it is also of there own words and documents that the line of Pendragon it the ruling family, then the rumor that the one that is the heir may also be Merovingian then there may be a few fanatics that would take advantage and couple that with them finding out that i didnt know for quite sometime the position that i was being kept from maybe that is why everytime i turn around things are happening around me and to me to try to show incompetence and such, so i try to be as open as possible because if my records and such are looked at in detail a pattern not of my creation is present and it is very noticeable that a concerted effort by many to create a persona of incompetence and insanity is portrayed,,,,,,,,,,but hay ive learned to not be so hard on myself after all ive ben up against head shrinks and psychics for around 38 years.

Strange how it didnt rain until i was in a good mood, it kinda pisses me off a bit that someone would say that i forgot that im a warlock.

i dont think so, for instance i said as a boy that i would not learn my step mothers ways, her request, maybe that was a good thing, now if he said sundancer, pipe carrier, lodge pourer, fire chief, deacon, pendragon i might have said no i did not forget but warlock, no im not a warlock maybe similar but no i know nothing of this. and if im a warlock then that would make me a sorcerer king, i think im more of a preist king or warrior king if im a king and if not then just a simple warrior monk would suit me just fine, but after all the crap and stuff then makeing a trip and confirming the medical wing of the building i was taken to as a child , then in around 1997 the month long testing and such, it is weird that i didnt think it weird at the time that i was the only client there for testing, it was allot of psyc evals and iq tests, i tested at a very high level the highest they had seen, my tests showed me to be text book for military officer, politician, religious leader, special agent in charge, paramedic, any protective services, the top 2% abstract reasoning nationwide, and the IQ tests never gave an accurate reading,,,,,,,,so all this testing the same time the information of who the family of King Arthur is came out publicly as well as this info put a few people placed in places of influence claiming to hold the titles that are rightfully mine, i think it was also a king of france that once said he would relinqush his crown if the the once and furture king came, it is in Vatican documents, the arrogance of some of the previous kings as well as some that were exposed to privileged information, they even have the documents of some of the arrogance so in a sense france has relinquished its crown in a retro-active sense, i figure if they want to be so stuck on being impeccable with speech, then why shouldnt i just put it out there and say hay its documented and achived that the crown of france was forfeited if King Arthur lived, basicly if the bloodline survived and the rightful heir is found and known, so now ya know why someone like Michael Lafosse would try to get to the titles by claiming one of them(prince of albany,Scotland),,,,,,,,like i said to them before look into the grail legends and such and my connection to the land and sun, i didnt ask for it and it makes me feal a bit uncomfortable because i can see the level of misuse someone can do, but that is what they have already done and that is why im becoming aware and learning to control it myself and backing the mfers off because i know that i will not missuse my gifts like they have, that is why i have no problem accepting it anymore, if you can understand what im getting at,,, so it is become very clear that i know better than allot of the socalled experts, why, well maybe because i am me and they only speculate what i might be or they gett a kick out of getting a rise out of me and seeing the clouds part almost like God is taking a peak at what pissed me off.

Crreaped out fuck ya i am, almost every freaking day. Imagine going threw the day at times afraid of confrontation of anytype, especialy if it is an injustice someone does to me, i can handle myself a bit above average thats not what concerns me. What concerns me is the effect it has on the environment as well as freak accidents and sicknesses that happen, but wall st wasnt karmic or anything, or any other things.

But then what would it look like an uneducated highly intelligent spiritual man that grew up in some of the worst conditions and experiences was found to be the rightfull holder of certain titles that some have tried to attain and fake, some have even aquired crowns by claiming being the decendant of king arthur these kingdoms include and not limited to England, Scotland, Jerusalem, France so in a nut shell who is crazy, me just a man that knows what goes on in the world from the bottom up or some manipulative politically placed and financed puppet. Now going by the very laws that these Crowns and countrys go by about documents this means that by there own admission it is mine by right. Right if they gained the Crown by claiming to be the heir of Arthur and it turns out that it was another family that is then would it not then go to the rightful family if it became known. But then who would want a king that knew what it is like to stand in a soup line, wellfare office, looking for a job endlessly, oh boy do i know what its like, But then what would happen if something that fairy-tale actually happened , but then now adays with all the action and intrigue could it happen without a conspiracy,,,,,ive heard a few stories but i still havent seen any proof, shit ive got allot, let me see, a birth certificate, medical records and scars, x-rays and mri's, and that is just within arms reach,,,,,,,,,,,,its crazy sometimes because i dont have many mememtos but i do have allot of personel documents and such and someone wants to tell stories without any documentation, proof or even correct time and place.

Now i know why fame and fortune never realy impressed me much, must be a type of kingly thing after all why would a real King ever be impressed by fame and fortune, dont get me wrong i do enjoy some of what famous people do like a good movie and such, but it is more a good deed or action that impresses me,,,,,,,,,so there it is now that ive admitted the real reason why im not to impressed by famouse people to the point of knowing whos who, why should i maybe its because they should be asking that about me:confused:oh but some have and they keap a bit of tabs on me and gleen what they can, maybe thats why it blows up in there faces eventualy(knowledge is a dangerous thing, especially when stolen and misused or used out of context),,,,,,,,,,,,so that may be why i was a bit confused when someone thought me to be a warlock.

[kimball13]

and again im getting allot of comments to me about how many name changes they think ive had, i keep telling them ive only used one alias for about six months...........

if anything it is others using an alias and passing themselves off as me with an alias and allowing others to believe i am the fake one using my name that is not mine,,,,,,,,,,,,,

in other words you have a guy named john that people are wondering what happend to and if he is dead or not, so then john shows up using his real name john and around the same time someone named tony shows up and getts people to think he is john under an alias because of whatever reasons.

so then john is looked at as being a fake john and tony is looked at as being the real john,,,,,,,,,,,,,and to boot while tony was doing whatever in the world he told people he was john,,,,,,,,,,,,,fuck it it basicly a strange bate and switch game,,,,,,,,,,

so like i said ive only used a fake name once and that was when i was a minor, if the goverment used me for whatever then it was for something a name was not neaded for as well as i have not found any misplaced guilt or shame, so because of this the only time i loose sleep is when i find myself realizing how much of my life and common human rights have bean stolen from me includeing any type of childhood, ya im the Rhino maybe the 3 one or the only one i dont know, i took another look at the Rhino story on the internet and i noticed he mentions hes the second one, he is about 1 year older and his father was the first one so maybe there is 3 maybe that is what the graffiti with all the 3's was about at the place that something terrible happend to me in around the92-94 time period, the one thing im sure of was when i noticed i was drugged and i realized why i started a self hypnosis routine having to do with the memorie, i was setting something like a time stamp because i knew that my doing this i would create a refernce point to then be able to regain something, im sure you conspiracy buffs and even maybe some of you retired;) specs, spooks, and super heros know what im talking about. Why do i say super hero's, were do you think storie's like wolverine were about he has memory problems as well as a Canada connection(MK-ultra, Ewen Cameron, but we wont mention Jose Delgado and the charging bull with the brain implant to stop it in its tracks and such things being perfected just about the time of my birth.

[kimball13]

did i mention that they changed the begining and ending of the Bourne Identity movies,again someone in hollywood fucking around and using my life as a templatei must say i like the new one better though, but it still erks me, not like i dont know who is doing this, but hay they will slip in a big way kinda like Maddoff, and the karma for the psycological malicios torture oh my God is that going to be screwed for them

[stinky catz]

Interesting thread.

[kimball13]

this is in response to a pm i recieved from a very colorful person, the name reminds me of a shoulin monk for some reason.


IVe read several articles the one you mention looks familar, and yes its true to a certain extent about Arthur destroying his own kingdom, but what they dont mention is the storyies and myths of Arthur are a compilation of several kings of the same family,,,the down fall and destrution at his own hands was because of an inherent flaw in charecter called being to trusting, and believe it or not integrity carried to far on certain things brings about the same demise.

Whos to say lancelot was not a traitor and quinevere either drugged or under a spell,,,,,,,,you know the ole best freind seduceing his buddys wife and after the dirty dead was done she had no choice based on her integrity to be honest with Arthur but then ther was arthurs integrity about what to do about this,,,,,, imagine this because of the laws and such that he could change coupled with his integrity to stand by his word, then the guilt he felt for allowing Lancelot to live, and to be honest back then it was more honorable to cheat on your spouse than to admit being bewitched(drugged) and manipulated, so the only way was the story everyone else got,,,,,,,she and lancelot were in love, which played to the whole camelot motif ,,,,so ya they both were exiled yet separated because part of it was that since Arthur was without his love then lancelot and Guinevere should also be not allowed to live with one another,,,,,,but then again the real story was she wanted nothing to do with Lancelot and his despeption to not only his King and best freind but also the way he defiled quinevere because of his lust and ego.

And in reality that story is just a metaphor for what happend and also the type of lying and honor code that was at play,,,,,,,,,,,,there is a Play by Shakespear called Cymbeline base on the real arthur, the only part of the bases for the story is the name and a template of the deseption that destroyed Camelot . Cymbeline=Kimball

Arthur=the people
Guinever=the church
lancelot=Pope

Like they say about the ripple in the pond, well that gives a very simplistic answer to cause and affect.

Each ripple created has a specific quantum frequency that is reflected threw the entire sequence until it hits the shore's of truth.

there are only a few that know what cause what, its the one that threw the stone, the stone, the water, the observer(to a point), the bottom of the pond where the stone settles, and anyone that can locate the stone at the bottom, those are the ones that have peices of the puzzle that contain truth of the quantum pebble in a pond.

maybe that is why we are called The Rainbow/Rayinbow people/ Light Bender's

i wonder why Tracy Twyman and nicholas Devere and such dont talk about these parts of it.

Devere wishes he realy knew what true starfire is.

also part of it is the Line of Pendragon and Merovingian there are certain things that should be adheard to and if not then the spiritual ability's weaken as well as can become manipulated and even stolen for a short time, but then Samson is a good example of merovingian bloodline,,,,,,,,,,ah now you know how and where the merovingians realy come from, i say merovingian not franks even though merovingian is frankish they did not originate as franks the blended, kinda like imagine two lovers coming together over centuries Pendragon and Merovingian, Arthur and Guinevere, bible says it all, the line of Christ is Merovingian/Davidic(white horse)

oh but then what was the Daughter of Magdeline named, Sarah, huh imagine that the granddaughter of the Lord marring the King of Kings from Britain,,,,,,what would those offspring be,,,,,,,a bloodline thats history's would list them as being from King of Kings Lord of Lords, the mark on the thigh is a family name, the robe is marked with the family name, the DNA in a sense also says the family name, so here we are at what the Pope did because of his jealousy remember Pope equals Lancelot.

I may suck at basic mathmatical algebra but when it comes to algebraic forms in the spiritual that is maybe why i like the word quantum, so who knows maybe im into the physics by now, i dont know like i said numbers confuse me but reality is simple, the problem is writing out the equation to be vetted while the whole time novices say im crazy and some in a elemetry knowing are scarred and the ones above them are still working the equation ive laid out, and just like in jr high i had to tell them the answers and they still barely pulled a D, as it is written first in creation was the Word not a number so that tells me that the foundation is not in numbers but in words. i stop there i have some math homework to do and like i said i suck at it, i get to involved in using the same type of process just with spiritual and abstractions so transitioning to numbers is difficult. like i tell people i am coming from a diffrent dirrection, you use numbers to understand the universe and guide you spiritualy and i am using them to understand you. Imagine taking the Rainman and teaching him algebra or something, you know take a savant and try to teach him the basics of what he does, your going to drive him batty.

here is a doodle of the only real drawing ive ever done ecept the Rhino, a lion/horse with 3 horns intertwined , the horns are crowns, the lion is in refernce to the one's on my family crest, i suppose the horse part is something to do with sarmation legends about knight and such, the mark on the cheek is 69 as in cancer and balance, then the cross of the merovingians and compass, i started drawing that about 24 years ago, it is my personal crest, my child hood representation of the white horsehttp://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=2421&albumid=49&dl=1235344996&thumb=1

the compass is also the Earth the reason why the cross of lorrain is where it is, is the lower arm is blocking humanity from seing the truth, just like the symbolisism of the cross of lorain where the lower arm is the darkness or evil path, but as you see the hair flows arround that arm, and what created the nead to represent the lower arm in it, easy the Vatican is the lower arm of the Cross of lorrain and who does the upper arm signafie, well maybe king David can answer that. Uh oh what has the vatican witheld from the people what candle did they put under a bushel

[kimball13]

Interesting thread.

thank you for your intrest, and also thank you for your signature,"While civilization has been improving our houses, it
has not equally improved the men who are to inhabit them. It has
created palaces, but it was not so easy to create noblemen and kings." Thoreau.


So true, maybe its becuase they have tried to create there own, as we see in the current tenants of certain palaces and castles, they were created by the Vatican, i wonder where the arab royalty came from now that i think of it. If i remember correctly christian Kings are chosen by God, this includes certain familys to inhabit these places, and the current residence are not even of these familys, there are also some tell tale signs of who the real ones are one in particular, heck it even gives a shout out about a birth mark in several texts. For one the princes have the wrong type of red hair to merovingian, oh and that familys so called connection to Arthur well now we know who the real family is. this includes Plantangent whos family tried to claim the Arthurian titles, so precedence has bin set by the very ones that currently reside in certain places of influence based on a false claim(fraud, identity theft). So if the real one is found what then, when the real one that is the real identity wouldnt the property and such then revert back to the rightful claimant, right that is the Law isnt it.
Then there is also what they have done with it, so in reality maybe a regime change is neaded, but in reality its not a regime change its more like sending traitors packing, if they were true royalty then they would be loyal to the true king, im done making excuses or trying to emphasize with there position, them being accustomed to very extravagant lifestyles, that by the way i could easely take what they spend in a weak and almost end homelesnes and hunger in the city were i live,and thats on the fly with no planning and forethought, imagine if i made plans.


a town of 10,000, one a week making it 52 citys a year that the main obstacles to common human needs are met for all, ya i know putting around 500 homeless people in housing, feading about 5,000, arranging drugg and alcohol treatment, edjucation, etc and it being almost self sustaining,

Kinda a foundation that helps the local services to become what they were first intended to be,

i figure about a year planning and core team development, but then im un-ediated, or should i say un-indoctrinated, the infra structure is there.
oh did i mention this also provides a workforce for alternative energy sources and products, after all allot of the people homeless and in nead are that way usualy because they could not sell out completely because of personal integrity, but then there told that integrity is guilt ridden, so they get loaded and such and sooner or latter they give in or just continue to survive,,,,,ya imagine that most are into helping other's and the enviroment.

But why would they ever let that happen, after all its the loop holes that keep them in a state of euphoric power hunger, they think they know a secret when they can navigate loop holes, the subsidized housing i live in is run by corprate and has another state funded office that does most of the work, so the corporation has a sweet deal they get market value as well as managment services state funded thus lowering there overhead, so they realy come out better than a private owner, much better as well as getting the added PR. And because the goverment signs off on there paperwork they get that added federal goverment protection/coverup we dont make mistakes bullshit. But i wont go into the 13 billion dollars that HUD lost.
I wonder why a retired green beret was in charge of health and human services, imagine that someone in that feild running the health services for the lower class, it would be an experimental smorgasbord (change bord to borg).

damit went on another rant, but like they say the one with one eye in the land of the blind is either king or considerd mad, i guess im just mad now;)
maybe that one eye is the inner or center eye but maybe its because the King is the only one that can change his inner eye to focus on the outside world, imagine that, reaching a level of having clear vision of social architecture as well as being able to recognize what works and what doesnt.
But then why would the offspring of Pendragon and Merovingian see such things?

sorry about the rant but hay sometimes that is where i find something out as well,

how does it go, happiness is only real if its shared, well that rings true for just about every emotion and body of knowledge.

[kimball13]

this link has some good info and more than enough to prove where that family went to, i wonder something about 13 (colonies)=Kimball13, ya i guess in a strange way this country is truly a masonic creation to begin with, maybe i should say Templar creation, who knows maybe to hide and protect a certain family, who knows maybe the secret was so well kept that they would not know until the right time, after all were talking the real Templars guys with access to real manuscripts and artifacts as well as stored treasure and secret alliances of true loyalty. oh heres the link

http://www.experiencefestival.com/cymbeline


and for the record i spent about 5-6 years trying to disprove this and leave the possibility behind me, but every question i had i found the answer then i vetted it over and over again doing my due dilagence then on june-20-2008 after much prayer for a sign ther was a very large burst of 8,000 lightning bolts in about a half second, so basilcly i said alright no more fear about this being delusional or me trying to justify all of the injustice and harm ive endured. So during this time i also realised that the hypnosis i went through at the Masonic Temple may have something to do with all this, and if the other boys wer going to be super soldiers and he said i was going to be different and more. They are known for knowin g when trouble is comin and they know how to bury ther tresure deep, so how do you hide the returned once and future king when he is just a boy, yet even as just a boy he has access to unknown knowledge and abilities. and the interesting memories i have are either of my own experince or that of those im connected to, and most of them are of an injustice done to the one that im seeing through his eyes, i know this is part of the bloodline ability, kinda like watching out for your knights.

anywhho , ther is what is called a cap, its a type of memorie and mind block, for intance during a period of durres and sleap depravation i repatadly demonstrated telakinesis on a combat level(ya know throwing a guy across the rooom while standing 10 feat away from him).

Any ways sometimes it comes out, it always comes out when absolutely needed, they can cap the way for me to access that part but they could not cap the instinctual or maybe they didnt want to and they knew the time would come when i was mature enough and able to understand certain things, like my grandfather said when i overcome my anger, he said that when i was around 9. I dont blame them after all they are learned men and knew that my path must have the experience of great hardship to truly understand the gravity of mans current lack of compasion and neglect of which ive sufferd greatly which has made it imposible for me to ever do the type of injustice to anyone that was done to my person. So right or wrong the Masons did what they did from a place of great knowledge and influence, i have experience, scars, spirit, knowledge that God presented, my ability to influence scared the crap out of me at an early age, ive learned that wisdom without compassion is evil, so maybe my last real contact with the Masonic temple in the Scottish rite clinic was in the mid 70's other than brief visits with my grandfather, so that every thing i learnd was from the outside, to make sure i knew what the people are going through, then ther is the throwing away of the chief corner stone only to find out he is the capstone:eek: crazy huh cap-stone get it they capped a chief corner stone=capstone, chief corner stone is a leader the cap stone is the completion the back of the dollar bill:cool:but damit hes got long hair and listnen to rock and roll(what do you think a warrior king would listen to)ya what a mothe fckin predikamint i find myself in, but it does made sense that they would find me to defective at first , it wasnt because of my physical handicap it was what phycologists said my personality would be like given my type of handicap, so imagine that the posible one to cary on the name kimball in the templars from my grandfather a possible chief corner stone deemed to be to defective by saying that an intestinal defect would cause insanity,,,,,,,,,,but just as the prophecy this one is the CapStone, in other words a true King and according to the heirachry of kings Arthur and David are the top Kings, the line of david is also now of arthur. Ya a wound to the side the humiliation, the false accusations, the lack of advocates or civil rights that i se others get freely, heck i have realy bin fked with, ya even mark on thigh , even paterns that someone poointed out that ive found to be the marks of a few of the 7 archangels, heck even the male side is were it should be as well as the feminine(sun and moon,right arm, heart), the big one on my thigh to boot, then i realized that the number of sundance scars i have equal 10 one for each commandment(what was that about scars of others sin type stuff). the first two were of the cerimony of letting go of the past and gaining the strength to carry the people in the coming hard times, the other eight wer from two seprate yet the same cerimonys hanging from four pegs two in the chest two in the back, i first had the vision then prepared then found out that the sacrifice of christ was the same teaching of the ceremony of complete sacrafice and dedication to protecting the people spiritualy, most pass out especialy when pierced as deep as i was, ...

crazy maybe but im going on personal experience which usualy leads to the information, in other words i first had my experiences and these are the answers that it always came back to every freaking time so a bit freaked ou t ya i wouldn be human if i wasnt, and the other crazy thing is i even had a vision of a bigfoot type creature that told me what my true responsibility is.
So ya ive even gotten messages from several sources. Then there is all the interference ive ran into as well as charlatans.

So for the record i did take a very long time considering writing something such as this, i also considered what it looked like i was claiming, but then i also considered what it ment to denie God and quench the Holy spirit and at the level of kingship that would even be a real doozy so dont get me wrong my nudge was from the True Judge, imagine weighing this intlectualy as well as everything ive learned from the Bible and Lakota as well as many other spiritual areas and given not only my first hand experience but also the evidence i was looking at and what it amounted to, so i can live with crazy, but being a pure idiot and going against what ive seen is out of the question. AS a boy the animals would say my name when the other kids made fun of me it alway reminded me of Gods love (they said it in its angelic form that has two more letters), a couple of weaks ago a dog cried out for help, so it is getting bad, because for me there have bin times that i knew it was God(an angel speaking)and that can only mean one thing, this war is causing great harm to the angelic realm especially concerning love, compassion and loyalty. That and there is no way i can turn my back on the very angels that comforted me at times of heart ache and loneliness . So not only does it makes sense to me intellectually but it is also heartfelt, and then there is the name, it is the name of the one called the heavenly son of man, the heavenly counterpart to Jesus, part man part angel and devoted to God and the holy spirit and a protector of christ, so now you also know now why the vatican doesnt recongnize a certain angel even though a derivative of the name is one of the angels on the ark of the covenant, he is also mistaken as michael at times. some think this angel to also be the one that caste adam and eve out ot the garden, so why wouldnt he also fight satan himself to win back mankind's rightful place, an angel known as the heavenly son of man is the one to kick man out of eden, kinda says this angel is part man and mabye this is who replaced lucifer in heaven, after all man is placed above the angels so here you have a man angel as the main leader of the angels as well as the keeper of the akashic records with a soul that fills that place that was empty in lucifer, imagine that the one writing the akashic records starts a rebellion as well as puts false info in the akashic records, why do you think God reacted the way he did when mosses bowed before this heavenly son of man, he wanted to make sure there would be no mistaken on anyones part. that is why the first commandment and why it says god (little g) before him, so in a nut shell ya better pay your respects to God first and formost before any of his servants, you know like a chain of comand you thank God then on down the line, and first and formost to keep it real simple only God is ever bowed to(as in knealing), respect in a dogo is differnt and in my opinion every true martial art originates from God so the respect is payed to the origin.

That may be to much info in my opinion but i do have to let go and let God so to speak.

[kimball13]

here is one for you, i havent read it threw past the title but i am pretty sure i know just about exactly what is written, as a matter of fact it was written the same year i drank hydrocloric acid, anyways check it out.

It is stuff like this that makes it hard for me to differeciate ours from the left over there's, this is a big problem after the cold war there were allot of trained USSR operitives and such of all sorts left in the cold or without a job so what do you do that will make bank,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you open up your own TOOL SHED so to speak as well as put it into full swing in the underground and legit, they only work with people aready breaking the law and by the time the aproach they have already set up there network in local goverment,,,,,,,,most of the time it just entails receptionists,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,butt when it comes to someone like me they up the anti when needed, but then so do we, and i went all motherfckn in in 2002, or was it 93, maybe 83, hay how bout 76, just a little boy that new right from wrong if nothing else, a boy that had already defied the odds by 1,000% percent,,,,,,so now who do those guys subcontract to, terrorists maybe, ya know the USSR controled offensive behavior, agent provacatours college course as well as, (screw it im going to say it) THE USA MARINES are running a similar program base on the title, ya drive someone nuts and win the crowd over with controled offensive behavior, and make sure you have someone nearby that you have wound up and fealing like shit from being shamed over an extended amount of time(frog in boinling water template).

heres the website, and the declassified documents maybe i will read them but the title and time frame fit, as well as this stuff started to come out around the same time i started to realy up the anti, maybe thats why the declasification, not only to cover my ass but to inform and prove, this is because it goes way into the chain of command and it is the ones that run these operations that have influenced this world into the shitstorm we are in now, it is not a good idea to have anyone that makes a living out of causeing insanity to run anything.

but like i said they always have a scapegoat when they are performing this then the missdirect the noticing of chaos towards the homeless guy on the corner that caused all the crime in there neighborhood, metaphoricly speaking.

http://www.earthpulse.com/epulseuploads/articles/ControlledOffensiveBehavior.pdf

[kimball13]

like i said i was sent to shut something down, the problem is both sides were running very similar ops, and in my opinion either purposefuly joined or just thought were the same with eachother and after cold war byby just continued and excalated due to no chain going to washington or oversight commity,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya like he said they are killing us out there go find out whats going on, then the shut down order.

just as in intelgence and other thing you alway have a counter intelegence and such,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just like you have Counter terrorism units that protect and Red cell and the likes that test and infiltrate,,,,,,,,,,,,,hear it goes real simple a who can piss farther contest between seal team 6 and Delta,,,,,,,,,,,now im realy going to piss someone off,,,,,,,,,,,the founder of 6 then created Red Cell, red cells job was to find ways to do what an enemy would do to us and pull surprise war games.

then there was the compitition about who is up for leading the joint task force comprise of delta, seal, recon, pj's, csar, etc.......want to ask what mog was about. anways.

forme well it complicated, but i want to say this both the founder of Delta and Seal Team 6 i hold in the utmost respect and i honor them as Warriors, having said that now some real meat.

I dont know if it was after 6 founder moved on and it was just some guys from the seals or his from 6 or red cell,,, hard to tell,,, but the whole controled offensive behavior thing if its what i think it is or a type was what these Marines and Seals have done as well as one navy intel, one army news guy stationed in germany, and as well they caused me and my family great harm as well as the American people and the people of realy all nations includeing our enemy's,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but it realy was dirrected at me since very early childhood and i believe it is because of not only what i am but also my family(as in prior patriarchs)
my anger isnt realy towards the seals or marines as individuals or even as a whole but i do have a resentment for there lack of oversite of who they train as well as allowing such things to continue for around 30 years minimum.
then there is knowing some of the relatives of the ones that did some of this, and if i sought revenge it would hurt me gravly to see the greif of there loss, it would be hard because at the same time i would know it realy isnt a loss actualy i would be doing them a favor,,,,then there is always the missdirrected honor code of revenge that some have and if i chose a final solution and seek revenge then i might have to defend myself against a freind because of what there relitive did to children,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you see how complicated this is, imagine this pickle, oh by the way it was your brother or uncle or whatever even husband son etc that did allot of harm and even death to inocent children and used some of us for there wars and they collected the medals and paychecks as well as the authority and such that goes along with there positions,,,,,,,,,,,,,imagine this, if i say your father learned what he knows from children he then later tried to kill and torture when they got to old or started to remember,,,,now what if that man came around me and started to push the buttons that should cause the effects he wants and i defend myself and the he ends up very messed up or even dead should i tell you why before or after.

more food for thought,,,,,,,,,,,you have delta and 6 then there counter part red cell,,,,,then there is the little known Blue Light(singular). what happens if something like red cell or even one of the other's goes haywire, who do you send, what do you send, The One, now how do you sneak someone in to one of these teams thats gone rogue, mainly because by the time they get in there is already something that happens, usualy blackmail/payoff, so you have to go as far to ground as possible on just about every level (like around 5-6)as well as making him a prime canidate and this is why my so called birth defect never realy got to me as much as it should because i knew why and i had a fcking mission even though i started it as a boy, and yes there were people involved, remember i mentioned the man that asked me if i wanted to be a super soldier i said yes, he then said i would be like the others but diffrent,,,,,,,,,,,maybe its because of the distastfull nature of what they had to do to me and my body,,,,,,,,,,,,ya they knew about my step dad and let him do what he did to let them think they had me(like i said im going meat now, by the way when moma lion has to force the cubs to eat meat she has to get nasty sometimes),,,,ya imagine the understanding that ive had to reveiw time and time again, i know what was done to me as a child should not be done to anyone ever again and if i and others occomplish our mission it will never happen again or nead to be done,,,,,,,,,,,,,like i said as a boy i knew the why, and being a bit empathic i knew the pain and suffering some went threw and what they were made to do.....

But then somehting went wrong and the others were being positioned in my position, they put theres in mass in my profile, in other words to personefie my profile,,,,,,,,they learned that there was something like me out there, they just thought there were allot more, they never thought that there would be some like me but none of my type,i am a singular unit so to speak, so what is a Blue light.

A light bender,,,,,,,,,,,what else would be able to defeat the fallen angel of light. And yes there is a spiritual cop but just one, im not the judge, anyways, there is only one realy of my MK-MOS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i have a memorie that i think i might have shared with one person,,,,,,,,,,it is of being in a bunker and asking them are they sure and i warned them and also gave my disagreement, then i was sent out of the bunker to perform the test, it was kinda like a flame thrower on steroids combined with a blast furnace and hurricane, the device used was me. I also remember then watching the tape in the bunker and in the back someone said what have we unleashed, and for the record im not one of the prophets spoken of in the bible but i am on the same side as them. So to any of those that have known me or know me that is why ive bin so freaked out, it has never realy bin fear of anyone else or guilt it has always bin the weight of what i become at times, and there are those that have manipulated me on some levels causeing certain things to happen without my concent but i knew what i had to do and try to show them that there may be other's or just me and they are messing with authority that is much higher than any gang or mob/mafia, bikers, spys, yada yada yada, ohthen the ones that play with weather, what a joke ya make it drizzle some more. And they wonder why i dont use it for my own ideas and such, or income, ya good idea push the red button for a buck,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i will say this it is enjoyble to see the fear they have the calmer i get and there is nothing they can do about it,,,,,,,,,,,realy what can you do if someone has that kinda ability and protection,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOOK at the AVATAR the look up the comic and then look at the dates and story line,,,,,,,,,,,,my comic name is DAMAGE, nice story line with the restart creation and all with this ability to generate energy on an infinite level, i think they called that Zero Hour(a special justice legue comic you know superman, batman and all the realy cool DC heros).

Anyways after reveiwing the clues and hints dropped i do think allot of this falls under the saying about resembling a living human that did not concent to the publishing, so where are my royalty's ,,,,,,,,,my God ive realy lost count on the number of things, includeing the research into abiotic hydrogen as being the key to curring AIDS and just about everything deadly. which by the way i comforted someone i ran into that was on her way to go to the trials and when i asked if it had to do with the abiotic hydrogen she said yes but it scared her because it wasnt really explained, so i explained it and guess what she understood what the DR's were telling her. So proof well ive gott a house full on just a few medical and such things having to do with my own stuff, the other stuff like cure for aids was something that i wanted to make sure didnt become a billion dollar shot for only the select few, i hope i havent faile that, but it explains the airforces involvment in my life at time's.

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oh ya now im supposed to spill my guts, ya know the conditioning stuff, well here you go. Understanding counter intel is a very scary thing for ones own person as well them, epsecialy when you have had to be aware of these things since you could walk. After all when you a child you have realy no physical protection so you have to rely on INTEL as well as you get no respect or authority or any of the likes(includeing $) so you have to rely completely on intel and hand to hand or just flat out addapting to the situation,,,,,,,,,,,,,ive bin ci since boyhood as in just a real little boy just like some of your children,,,,,,,,,,,,,do you think they only stick guns and bombs in the hands of children durring wartime,,,,,:eek: so just imagine Bourne as in born identity as in since very fucking young,,,,,,,,,,but then maybe thats what is in my blood and just maybe i am actualy telling a true story here rather than some fabrication based on me and a few buddys dreaming up a scam to play of of one another to make a few bucks and get layed.

Ya this is how they want it, me alone doing what i can to help the greater whole without any compensation or reward at all just hardship,,,,,,,,,,,,do they let me have children or a wife :mad:, or spend a day with one of my children that i have never met,,,,,,,,,,,im talking you know actualy being a dad and being called that, you know just like others do,,,,but no instead they took the word of a pedophile and satanist,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and look what happend over 3,000 dead in two towers, sex slave rings all over the place, methamephedamines run rampant,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so fuck you, i already know its either you or me and my family and from what ive gatherd i dont just have a baseball teams worth of kids but a couple of leagues and i already know you have no intention on ever letting me even have a long term relationship with a woman i love and be able to have what seems to be every other humans right to have real visitation with there children. Ya it is real obviouse because i see baby rapists get to be with there children and grandchildren and it known, i see drug dealers and such gett the same right,,,,,i see people that should never even be with in site of anyone have these rights and i only have God and what i do.

OH and by the way the worst things ive done are defend myself and steal slushy money from the change jar,,,,,,,,,,,,oh and be extremely self sacrificing for others by nature, yet they took that and used it for there own thing like using me to dream up how to defend our country, gues they fucked up by trying to keep me hidden and just plain used, maybe they should let me be like the rest and have a real job and family you know like in DC or the Pentagon oh but that would be to real to have a real motherfucker around,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,oh i do hope im in the class action law suit against the CIA and DOD or is it because they still want to use me that i will have to fight tooth and nail to even be able to breath with out ripping someone apart.

Ya allot of so called men, older than i, have built careers on my mind and work. They have bin able to raise there family in luxory and comfort with the respect of there peers and i have bin in a life of constant struggle and want. So ask yourself what kind of gift would God give a man like me and what kind of reward. Im in it for the long haul and if i have to bring down every power and principality, every stock market and church and corrupt goverment official then so be it you brought it on yourself by comming in between me and those i love, as two men recently admited to seeing a fig tree come to life as well as lightning,,,,,,,,,the tree was durring a time of my physical healing and the lightning was durring a time of gideon prayer, they were asnwers to my prayers and those two saw it and admitted to seeing it yet they still try to play a game,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and yes it is written about the fig tree and lightning in the bible, as are the mark on the thigh so fuck it there it is all of it so far ,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh and by the way i say what i mean and not in symbolic reference this is all basicly true to the best of my recollection. IN OTHER WORDS TAKE THIS WHOLE THREAD LITERALLY TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY.

I AM, Jehoel Metatron Kemuel, and all of you scolars and such have bin trying to figure out what is already done, read your bible and realize it past your intellect and listen to me for a change istead of trying to protect whatever it is your trying to save your only making it worse get a fucking clue already,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe Warez mexaco elpaso new orleans tsunami drought depresion(stock market) etc yada yada yada,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh and the one that realy pulled my head out of my ass june-20-2008 california lightning storm and fire.............................................. ............

Like i said when you started this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,im far more devastating than the DEvil,satan, lucifer and his minions ever thought of being and sooner or later all of those protecting evil will be swept aside because of Gods will not mine, and it is what you have bin doing to me my whole life that is what is the deciding factor in how God goes about doing the whole KARMA thing..........There you have it i could not say it any clearer, and ive held that in for a long time, i could not tell you God said not to.........

it is pretty funny if you look at it,,,,,,,,,,,after all people like matreya and such have pr campaigns and books ,,,,,,,,,and no offense ment but look at how Icke got his start,,,,,,,but in ickes case i think God intended that one because after all i used to have a resentment against him because when i found out about all the bloodline stuff it creaped me out a bit to think i might be part of these reptilians he speaks about,,,,,,,,,,,,and how is he listended to and have a happy family life and live in comfort after claiming to be Christ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,like i said im the one on the White horse, not pale or any other one,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,im the one that the catholic church tried to erase from history so that they could install there brand of reptilian sick crap. They couldnt kill me so they tried to controle me, maybe they just thought i was gifted and thought they had a comodity,,,,,,,,,,ooops!!!!!!!!!!!! im here and its 2009,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,boy was i a sight from 2002 util 2008 and now im just now looking healthy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how did they put it detestible to look at.

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a portion of an article,,,,,,,,the time line is important,,,,,50's and 60's then 1972(time period of surgery and then drinking hydrocloric acid)guess that got gottleib fired. Then in 73 the year of hydrocloric acid was also the year of the cia shredding records,,,,,,,,,,,oh ya in 64 the program was changed to MK-search(i wonder who they were searching for:eek:.:cool:.and then uh oh in 77 the lid came of with bugetary records bieng found, it was 76-77 that i underwent hypnosis and such at a secret society building with medical facilities. So it seams that the mk-ultra programs funneled down to mk-search, or should i say mk-search may be the oprerational name for the preperation leading up to mk-search(maybe who knows what for who for or how many are searched for.) so in a nut shell is mksearch still operating and for what purpose, and is it this i was sent to shut down or a victim of, maybe both just like usual i see others being victimized and then i go through it and notice it very clear and i just cant help but change it ;)

http://www.earthpulse.com/epulseuploads/articles/MindControl.pdf
MK-ULTRA
"Dr Gottlieb, born August 3, 1918, was the
CIA's real-life 'Dr Strangelove'—a brilliant
bio-chemist who designed and headed MKULTRA,
the agency's most far-reaching drug
and mind-control program at the height of
the Cold War. Though the super-secret MKULTRA
was ended in 1964, a streamlined
version called MK-SEARCH was continued—with
Gottlieb in charge—until 1972."2
During this period, substantial interest in
mind control was stimulated by Soviet use of
microwaves. In 1988, "thirty-five years
after security officers first noticed that
the Soviets were bombarding the US embassy
in Moscow with microwave radiation, the US extensive program of human
experimentation, using drugs, psychological,
and other means, in search of techniques to
control human behavior for
counterintelligence and covert action
purposes.
"In 1973, the CIA purposefully destroyed
most of the MKULTRA files concerning its
research and testing on human behaviour. In
1977, the agency uncovered additional
MKULTRA files in the budget and fiscal
records that were not indexed under the name
MKULTRA. These documents detailed over 150
subprojects that the CIA funded in this
area, but no evidence was uncovered at that
time concerning the use of radiation.
"The CIA did investigate the use and effect
of microwaves on human beings in response to
a Soviet practice of beaming microwaves on
the US embassy. The agency determined that
this was outside the scope of the Advisory
Committee's purview.

[kimball13]

3-16-2009 is coming up............it is time to tell a bit more about why this thread and my biggest regret to date. To begin i have never denied the Holy Spirit, but i have argued with IT, my logical mind has saved my heart at times from the denial of the Holy Spirit(Spiritual Logic, what a fucking concept), yet my suffering from induced cognitive dissonance has almost brought about grave mistakes on my part, there has bin well over 49,000 time's i have experienced people trying to set me up including trying to induce a violent reaction from me putting there own life on the line as well as numerous things, (i was even asked at about 14 years of chronological age why i havent commited suicide yet or did a c:mad:lumbine),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they have known just about as long as i have about what and who i am but they were never so sure,,, and yes alot of people have tried to control and have me as there own servant and then i would have the things every else has, i am 38 and have bin offerd very large sums in my life for questionable services.

oh by the way Revalations 7 why is one tribes name so close to Nephalim it is spelled Nephathalim.

Rev, 17:14
so why would i be moved and basicly held in captivity/depravity/constant battle of the mind and spirit and only in this area, then it ramped up and i found after great reveiw the pattern as well as where ive had the most difficult time is the area where Manson, jim jones, and another guy that tortured and killed 39 women(maybe he knew about around when im 39 and tried some freaky voodoo).

A stage set to further the attack against me, imagine a community of people that experienced jim jones, charles manson and some asian guy as well as a slew of other's includeing induceing a gradiosity in a large numer as well as using there gifts to attack me(even the elect will be fooled, including me, Gods will i only trie to line mine up with his and work in harmony)

so read the quote of mine below and wonder why.

Rev 19:11-21

i was born a King of Kings a Pendragon, and on my thigh king of kings lord of lords.

get it Pendragon= Metatron aka kemuel/jehoel, keeper of and writer of the akashic records, in heaven spends most of time in Gods presence even looking upon the light and face of God(try and imagine explaining it)

so explain how if rogue spec ops over twice my biological age have attacked me in very covert ways for 38 years that im still liveing and feared by them.

Yes im talking very adept black magic types of not only physical but also mind and spiritual.

And all there money and effort is for nought, they know what happens if they come at me and real humans know now and wont risk it, it is very obvious now because of remaining in the same geographical area for awhile,.

so again i implore stop this (what do they call it) data mining from me(leaders my ass, more like leaches), you dont know how to apply it,,,,,,,,,,stop using me as an industry to support thousands,,,,,,,,,,oh but you are listening to supposed experts that cant wipe there own ass that helped you or your freind threw what im going threw and i am just gifted and delusional about the attacks,,,,,,,,,,,take a look at the bigger picture, youve watched movies havent you well imagine thousands manipulated to screw with one person, but then its not like i have to constantly correct clerical errors and such on a daily basis, and why well its possibly because i should be treated a bit more like a human being and not a fucking commodity, im talking to everyone of you on the entire planet, pull your heads out of your proverbially arse, ...... i will put it this way you all have bin taught a very crude level of destruction and evil,,,,,,,,,,there are a few that learned creation and destruction,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,here i will put it more gently, you have bin given a perception of what is truth by a world of lies and destruction to bring about creation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i first learned truth, creation and destruction(Damage,as in my avatar) then i learned lies and such from youse guys.

by the way in my anger the clouds go away because the Angels are present and Accounted For,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so now you know the real reason why some in high seats fear me(fucking demons), :eek: crazy thing is allot of those little demons like making me angry because they are not aware of what is happening, think of it this way, venom that induces pleasure in demons and such,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i will leave it there for now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Refin ed True permanent Destruction of Dis-ease, just like what Kalki is known for.

[kimball13]

without giving to much away,,,,,,,,,,maybe i should have put a picture up or maybe i should post what im wearing everyday so you know im me and he is he or they,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya im a fucking dumi and as far as keeping my personal bussiness a secret well i see where that got me.............And what i didnot know almost killed me as well as made my entire life one torturous event after another,,,,,,,,,,so hay i figure just maybe i will have at least a chance to prevent it from happening again or who knows maybe changing the entire system.

And it has bin very obvious that others knew far more than i for a very long time,,,,,,,,,,,,but then i dont know anything about spirit tracking do i.


To put it very bluntly the longer this happens the more chaos is created withoug balance(spiritualy speaking).

Ive observed and what ive gatherd over a long period of time as well as trial and error,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT YOU DO TO ME IS DONE TO YOU MULTIPLIED!!!!!!! Ive seen it happen over and over again,,,,,,,,i started to warn people but the sickness in humanity is so thick that it is as if you cant help but fuck with me and every time something of a higher nature happens...

Every time every single time,,,,,,,,,,,sometimes its a plane or earthquake, fire, lightining, flood, if its no one's fault then its there fault almost without fail,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh ya im #one/ no one, and thats who they like to blame, no one because then they would have to blame themselves for causeing my Guardian Angel to retaliate on my behalf for remaining faithful and true to God. Oh but the local satanist and such like to have there little fun and play with the weather and gett my temper flared up,,,,,,,they wonder why i call them stupid ive told them over and over again its not me that you are disrespecting it is my Creator because you are interfering in Gods work when you interfere with me,,,,,,,,,,to put it very bluntly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


You may know what an empath is right well do you know what an Empath is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i am an Empath i feel the Emotions of God at time's,,,,,,,,,it can be very overwhelming at times,,,,,,,maybe that is why i like the Rangers mottos(book of Isaiah),,,,,,,,,,,,,they say watch out what you pray for, well i think i heard God ask who will i send and guess what, i said here i am Father send me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,by the way this is when i was a boy, a child, and i was speaking to someone not of this realm or of the lower realms it was from above on high, before i ever drank booze or was with a women, before the real abuse started, actualy right before,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it may have bin my dreams and such that caused them to start abusing me and sending me to hypnotherapy.....


Just for a minute explore the possibility of a boy being found in SF CA, a hot spot for satanists at times,,,,,,,,,,,,,and this boy displays certain things that may be considered the traits of the one that will destroy them,,,,,,,,,,so just to make sure and then if he is just a gifted child then they may churn him into one of them,,,,and if he is the one then they have him or one of his comrades. and if he is one of his comrades then the one will come to help him,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but then this is to far fetched and all huh,,,,,,,heck even if you have no belief what so ever you still have to accept the possiblity of a group of satanists going after a percieved enemy of theres,,,,,,,,,and they went after a child, a little boy that only saw the world as a boy.

Oh ya this one i speak of would also look almost evil, or demon in human form as you percieve demons and such.................................Look it up, heck in almost every group of writings this one is veiwed as the enemy or as helping the enemy at times, but there again perceptions are a bitch.





Karma's a bitch and shes married to an asshole.:D so who are you going to follow an asshole married to a bitch or a whore married to a devil(as in whore of babylon).


sorry to get so biblical but hay, when i see planes dropping out of the sky i get a little heated.
When people are dying of preventlble illness i get pissed because all that was needed was for the words coming of of my pie hole to be heeded and listened to not just used and proselytized,,,,,,,,,,,,,and know i dont think i am Jesus,,,,,,,,,,,,,and if i am then thank God i dont know it. But for now all ive got to go on are my life experiences and what i observe as well as mark on thigh and an acutrament of other things.

Maybe i just love to much. Shit i even prayed for satan to find salvation for a time and i still shed a few tears for his future(or lack of),,,,,,,,,,,i think sometimes how can such a being so intelligent and gifted be so stupid, but then im sure satan probley says the same about me and gets others to think the same, so its not all good.

[kimball13]

Here is another very important clue,,,,,,,,,,just as in the bible reincarnation is mentioned in refernce to people like Enoch and such,,,,,,,,,,it does exist(reincarnation) but not for everyone,,,,,,,think of it this way a select few are sent to do what needs to be done and they return time and again,,,,,,,,just as there are also demonic types and such,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and they both are preparing for a type of mass reincarnation to take place where everyone is reincarnated,,,,,,,i think its called emptying the Goff,,,,,,,,,,now imagine not only all of the Good great ones but also the bad ones and all those egos on both sides at once in the same time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just imagine Enoch and Melchezidec having a debate, or sampson and hercules going at it,,,,,,then there would be jesus and budha seeing who could heal the most people and trying to explane that it is not correct to worship them and that there is a God higher than they,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and everyone is bickering and confused by the anti-christ, beast, and his false prophets until the one shows up all beaten and confused himself covered in the inequity of others, the one that protects them all and even the evil on occasion, he is Lucifers counter part, they acutual y used to work together,,,,,,,every scribe needs light to write by, get it angel of light and angel of the akashic records, the only other that had acces to as much info as myself was Lucifer looking over my shoulder as i wrote the word of God, the only one that Knows more than i or lucifer is God himself,,,,,,,,,,,,,then there is Christ and the anti-Christ, the prophets and false-prophets, oh ya and God even has his own beasts with four heads and then there are satans beasts also,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that should clear up the whole heaven and earth will pass away and a knew heaven and earth will become one to take its place,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,this also explains why God punished me for mosses kneeling before me and why i submitted and why the tittle faithful and true exists,,,,,,,,,,,,,,think of it this way you have two guys going head to head for millennia and God allows it because he knows that it is the only way to repair the soul of humanity, then comes the time for faithful to take place and become true, the the real keeper of the word must forget the knowledge part and go only by the word written upon his heart,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,its like the diffence between the software being from a program or it being imbedded in the hardware and proprietary. you see demonic is only program software the Word is proprietary hardware and even when all memory is lost and the sofware takes a dump there is still the word in the hardware if it is of God!!!!!!!metaphorically speaking.
So there it is,,,,,,,,,,,,and like i said earlier there are other akashic records hidden even from j,metatron,k and the only way to even come close to reading them is to have faith in God and God will reveal them, it is allot differnet than the RV practice of non-judgement,,,,fuck that im going to judge everything i see wether it be of spirit of a dog taking a piss how else am i going to know what is occurring in front of me, it is condemnation that is none of my bussiness,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now being falsely judged most of my life by just about everyone has given me a very unique view of what guilt looks like,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you have to live in truth and truly breath it to know what it looks like and where the lie realy is that is manifesting in sub-lies, to destroy a lie the weed must be uprooted from its core,,,,,,,,,,,,,,making sure not to uproot the roses near by,,,,,,,,,,,,,so naive, no i am not by far niave i just dont pay much attention to most of the lies i hear im to busy looking for the root, like i said i was trained to deprogram,,,,,,so that must meen that i have programing to debugg and deprogram and for me to deprogram myself i have to deprogram others,,,,,,,,,,God kinda pulled a fast one so to speak with my consent and this is where the difference between software and hardware comes into play. Now what kinda secrets would the Templars have that they would sacrafice most of there members in 1307 to cover the escape of there most valued treasure and did they know all the way until the 1970's about this treasure and there part and duty to be performed at the appointed time,,,,,,,,,,,the real twist to the whole bloodline story and it is mine to tell and that is why i am still breathing if you must know the truth. there are many storie's of who arthurs father realy was as well as the Merovingian bloodline,,,,,,,,,,,,one of my spiritual teachers was close when he called me merlin he must have seen the teachings of merlin and mistook me for he. Like they say history repeats itself, or not, it realy just evolves and that is part of the lie's, it only appears the same from an untrained eye.

[kimball13]

maybe i should have left a few posts up.

i am just now truly accepting who i am, or what i am, it is a almost lonely place, one reason is some think they know what im going threw, i feal like i am only to seek my advice and comfort from God,,,,,,,,,,,,how do i put this without offending any christians or other's.

imagine how you have to learn to have faith in God and learn that God loves you and all the other things that are contained in that relationship. now reverse some of that,


The most troubling thing i go threw is the stares i get from children, it humbles me greatly and i am honored by there respect and humility, to be honest and try to convey what i meen by this is difficult and has to do with what christ said about entering the kingdom of God, be as the children.
I go to the supermarket or realy anyplace and when i am just myself and not denieing it i notice that the little ones will take extreem notice of me and they almost become hypnotized by my presence, yet not hypnotized,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i know the reason for this and it is humbling and that is good because if i was the other then it would be bad and here is why.

I get the fealing from there inocent eye's that they are looking at me in a way that a kings loyal subjects would or troops looking at a beloved leader as well as peer and equal, it is difficult to explain and maybe you have to understand as a child to realy understand the difference...........Now imagine that allot of so called adults think they know how an adult should behave and such,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yet when the eyes of innocence look at me i can see what they see in me and i am humbled because i am a sinner to,,,,,,,,,,,but maybe that is the diffence i know it and have a true heart and i do not try to defend my sins as i see allot of adults do,,,,,,,most do it by trying to find every and any misstep i make and then they try to make something as simple as a frown on my face as being murderous or such, yet even when i am in almost a full blown rage children, animals, and crazy people of incent nature have no fear of me and even treat me as they always do,,,,,,,,,,,then there are the different persanalitys of each one,,,,,,,,,the little warriors litteraly act just like a pack animal would, you know kinda like the other dogs and how they act around the alpha, but its differnt for us becuase it is more of a reminder type of respect those little warriors just become more aware of what they are doing................

i will leave it there for now maybe i will find the way you can read it later, it is difficult to find the right words that you will understand,,,,,,,,,,oh ya you have the words but you dont realy understand them, you know like the word agape love,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and you want to know how i know you dont understand them is from what ive observed and what ive seen almost everyone of you fall for,,,,,,,,,,,,why do you think so many spiritual leaders went down the sex path and allot of you fell for it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,here is another clue as i mentioned earlier, sexual energy/sex magic is a by product of creative energy, oh and when you body has a physical responce to it(its called a warm breeze) it is not to be acted on only identified and sometimes you may even recieve an imprint of the desire of another person in the imediate vicinity, talk about uncomfortable when you scan the room and you see a grown adult having bad motives towards someone else and you know that that feeling you sensed came from across the room,,,,,this is where allot of sensitives become confused and ashamed because they know not where the thought or sensation came from so they assume that it is them themselves and treat themselves as the real sinner should then the real sick one goes on in life unscathed by the actions because in a sense they have removed there filthy gament and replaced it with you clean one, i will find a simpler way to put it, it is like being slimed.

so i wonder why so many judge me and try to find every flaw they can, i can say something like its a nice day and some will find a threat in there or a sexual coment or think i am judging them,,,,,,,,,,,,,i have to constantly remind myself it is not them that judge it is the demon wispering in there ear,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i also have to remember that the ones that think they know more that i do are only going by there limited knowledge and the ones that wounded me only did what they did out of fear and misdirection and they are doing the best they can to heal me,,,,,,uhoh there is the celtic prophecy at work, you know the storie of the fisher king only can be healed by the one that wounded him, and the one that wounded him can only heal and live good when the fisher king is healed,,,,,,,,,,,,i may not have all of the earthly indoctrination you all have, mine is heavenly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh ya i do hope Rome enjoys what they have done and the pope gets a clue. And the ground will quake.

[kimball13]

here is a good way to put it, it reminds me of a vision i had back in 93-94 about blue light and energy coming from my hand. oh boy what timing hay, talk about syncronicity, and this type seems to permeate my days.



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the difficulty is in the fact that there are those in the world that will create a false synchronicity or produce information to an individual or group to cause that individual to believe they are something they are not.............A few examples of this happening are Hitler, Jones, Manson, Koresh and a few others,,,,,,,,sorry to say but those individuals are not the only guilty ones, there main fault is in that they were incorrigible and believed in demonic ways actually being truth,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,why do you think it is mentioned in the bible about flattery being like a net caste at your brothers feat,,,,,,,,,,,,,there game is set em up for the crime, commit the crime and let them continue with there actions until they fall then that provides time and meens for the real criminal to escape...........You may ask yourself how does he know this game so well,,,,,,,,,,well the answer is the Templars use a similar tactic to safe guard truth, the differnce is the templars dont set up a puppet to take a fall to cover there tracks, 1307 is a good example of the sacrafice some Knight made to safeguard truth,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is basicly the opposite in a sense and origin,,,, big diffence between Catholic and Templar, or should i say Illuminate and Templar should talk about them doing it again in 1997 when the United states branch of the Templars was taken over by retired millitary and such being another 1307 in a sense, and on the 690th year, now let me see that means that 4 years pass as im being attacked and almost killed several times(of accidental or viral causes) and i can medically document it, one instance was almost bleading to death after surgery at scripps memorial(a catholic hospital in SD CA, as well as being a military contractor), i laid there for 6 hours telling them i was bleeding and they knew it, then God sent an Angel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so this isnt just about me, this is about at the very least 700 years of attacks and injustice done to my people, my turmoil has only bin 38 years of a very long war that has remained in plain sight yet hidden in the obscure and abstract,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so just think for a minute what is realy going on,,,,,,,,,,,shit even the world head of the Templars is a bit confused i must say in the least,,,,,,,,heck it wasnt even until around 2003 that he knew what had happend in 1997 so i could imagine his embarrassment concerning this particular situation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how does it go again,,,,,,the wise will be made fools and fools will be made wise,,,,,,,,,,,so in other words get wise again you were wise then made fools now please i implore you become wise again:cool:

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it is saddening that the only way is death for some because of there insistence of thinking they have the right to program people and have slaves.

last night i heard through channels that contracts have bin ordered for all programers, it has become apparent that this is the only way,,,,,,,,,,,in one sense i am thankfull and in another i was hoping that some would change there ways,,,,,,,,it finnaly became apparent to them that it is a loosing battle for people like myself to continualy be in the state of de-programing others in public,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

some of us where trained and programed to de-program any that we come in contact with, and as time goes on or we stay in one place to long then the programers start to become aware that some of the programed are not operating like they should,,,,,,,,,so in a sense it is exactly what the bible says it is a war for the souls of mankind, one side setting people free the other enslaveing them with lies,,,,,,,,,,,,,im positive that the debate on whom to hit has gone on for a long time,,,,,,,,,after all mankind makes its decisions ultimately and God provides the concequeces at times,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so its kinda like a court case, on one side you have de-programers and on the other programers, to explain the struture is basicly moot at this point. but i will say the programers have had more resorces and influence than the de-programers,,,,,,,,,,,,one reason is a
de-pro not only has to do there job but at the same time has to be vigilant as to if they are becoming a victim of a programer that they have found and are trying to reason with(kinda like what a hostage negotiator does),,,,then do boot the de-pro has to keep from attacking or hurting the ones that are propgramed to interfear with the de-pro's life in general as well as trying to provoke the de-pro to do a violent or other seriouse act based on defending ones self from a validly percieved threat, or even there is the other set ups they try to do, the most distastefull one is the sexslaves they send to influence you and or try to provoke or even lie about your sexual stuff,,,,,,,,,,oh ya and there is a reason why only some are chosen to be what i am,,,,,,,,,,,,,not only do you have to be highly suggestible but you also have to be able to compartmentalize those suggestions into harmless compartments so as they do not manifest as well as examine it to see if there programing technique may have mutated in a sense,,,,,,,,,,,,,the language of computers as well as spiritual can be used when speaking in this manner,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i guess you might say some of us do have fire-walls and anti-virus software and hardware,,,,,hence inhibitors,,,,,,,,,ya a type of govenor ya even if they managed to gain access and program me basily it would be like a kill switch in your car, my engine just would not run right:eek:,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then there are the ones that try to help me but then they realize they have realy not seen my type, maybe some like me but like my story says, and like the man said in that medical room when i was a boy, you will be like them but different,,,,,,,,,,so when those in a little of the know come across me there missunderstanding and judgement causes friction even though some may be on the same side,,,,,,,,,,,,,,basicly what is one rule in war about counter intelligence type stuff, at least apear as the enemy or one of the enemies allies, funny thing is i never realy had to lie,,,,,,,the reason why i did not have to lie was to blend in i just had to be myself because realy that is what some of there programed were programed to do was just that,,,,,,,,,,allot of them the programers and such were lying and saying they were doing what i was doing so in a sense they thought i was one of them,,,,,,,,,,,but the longer i am around the more they began to realize im acutauly the one sent to shut them down,,,,,,,,,,,,its also like a count down in a way the more its shut down the more i become more my true nature without all of the (dirt on my cloak)shit covering my aura so to speak,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i am accepting that i may be part of a kinda breeding/spiritual plan, you know generations of this going on, bloodlines and attributes, along with what happend to me, some for a good purpose and some ment to stop my path, it is not genetically or spiritually possible for me to go against God, i have felt ashamed for this at times wondering what was wrong with me because ive always just believed and looked to God for guidance naturaly to the point i dont even notice it at times and then i see how some are just happy to remember to pray once a day and when they forget they are a bit upset,,,,,,,,,,,for me i just pray when im moved, not always outloud, mostly they are conversations with God or even at times im speaking to a sin or demon(those are interesting ones, and the asshole realy comes out in me),,,,,,,,,,,,but most is done in private or under my breath,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

so there you have it,,,,,,,,,,,,thousands of years of history and sometimes i am overwhelmed when i find that what i know is real, i am humbled greatly by this, when i accept it as truth i feel an almost overwhelming presence of God and i automatically start to kneel, actualy i do in the spirit and my body almost follows and when im walking down the street or driving it can be a bit intense when you feel you soul perform an automatic action separate from you body,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is like when i am in full agreement with God about something that ive struggled with and that some would get on a high horse about i am overwhelmed with a sense of complete and true humility,


oh by the way it was on a radio show that it was told that it is time and apparent that there is know room for manchurian type canidates anymore and that all programers were going to be rounded up so to speak. The person that spoke was obviosly going through allot o f the programing/de-progaming confusion or low level congnitive dissonance so i believe allot of what was said and what i dont it is only because i didnt listen to the whole show and wasnt paying attention to other parts of her story but i am going to go back and listen again.

[kimball13]

oh ya sometimes a program or programer is nothing more than a meme that has gotten out of hand, it could be intentional and tended to by someone that knows what they are doing, or it can be something as simple as an urban tale, or ghost story, how manyt people have you met that were made fun of by another race or group so when they got older they got revenge based on something that some other mixed up kid did, oh is that a meme well yes, memes also become very propagated by group think or clubs such as masons, lions, elk, Hells Angels, crips, bloods, etc, and when memes enter into these groups and find a lucrative use for there club mission statement sooner or later what ends up takeing place is the meme becomes the new mission statement, , kinda like after one cop takes a payoff it becomes easier to find others then sooner or later almost all are on the take and most of there time is spent doing the criminals bidding instead of upholding the law,,,,,,,,,,,MEMES can be a dangerous thing, they can be like a virus.

this is also one of the reasons why i was very carefull and it took what it took for me to begin to come forward with allot of this stuff, shit it took 911 to shake me enough to evaluate reality and my part, then i noticed that my suspicions of the Templars being missused after my grandfathers passing was true, well i had no choice i had to take a chance of creating another false meme, maybe that is why i sent out such a type of uncomfortable energy or charge with allot of this, not all my doing, but part of it is to kinda shock the meme structures in my surroundings and cause a ripple affect, just like when your in a bath tub and make waves each time you move you increase the previous one,,,,,,doesnt make me to popular for now, but hay most are not popular with me for how cruel they have intentionaly bin, and if i remind them of there cruelty then so be it, it was they that were cruel, i do not intentionaly intimidate, heck some get realy intimidated when im happy and jocking around its weird they act almost terrified, i wonder why that is, it is very uncomfortable, but then when im a bit blue the poke at me and try to provoke me until my hackles raise, maybe they know that i am less likely to be provoked into physical confrontation while angry, oh ya they knew that long before i started to mention it. i guess it might be becaus i take after both my grandfathers as well as i am myself and have had my own experiences that have made me even tougher, so two men, very intelgent, one of spiritual and the ways of bussines/law/accounting, the other in the technical, the mind, facts,music, and for me a bit of both just the art i chose was more of both grandfathers spiritual aspects of what the did in life, kindof a spiritual martial arts, this is why im not to pissed about not getting a proper edjucation because maybe there is some truth in certain family atributes being handded down and maybe because ive foucused most of my intelect towards the spiritual and emotional i ended up focusing the gifts i recieved from my grandfathers in these ways. I suppose that would intimidate some, and the reason being is both were very accomplished in there fields, just there intellectual mind power was formidable. It is not just them but it goes back for many generations being gifted on both sides.

Part of the reason why i am posting allot of this is also part of my heritage to do so, let me explain, in our history we are known for bringing out the gifts in others and showing them not only there gifts but also that of there ancestors, part of this process is to be honest, this is something that the current masons do not practice, 1307 realy put a bad taste in the honesty department. And this is another meme that needs to be changed, here comes some lead to gold.

The reasons for secrecy was in part because the knowledge could be used to manipulate,,,,,,, so obviosly if you know how to create nuclear energy and also know if someoen that does not know what there doing starts to mess with it without guidance or for greedy purposes,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh the real secret of what the preist found,,,,,,,,,,,as well as some prophecys and such and the old story of gaurdians of a specific bloodline...........But who knows maybe they also fell to the meme bug somewhere along the line, and found out the real purpose of the Templars around 97 or so for the real across the board and allot of groups started realy scampering around and ramping up the stuff............but then i seem to be a bit stuck on this subject, partly because i myself have tried to dicount allot of this but when my own life experience's and the similaritys i found all over the place, things only i knew or thought only myself and a hand full even ever speculated on started poping up all over the place, then i noticed allot of stuff that looked like my stuff was all over the place,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you know little things like mapping out a profile of suicide cults on the internet then within a week or month im not sure it was a few years ago, but anyway my profile shut down a group of over 30 that were about to commit suicide on the internet, or maybe it was just shutting down the guy that was trying to convince them to do it, sometimes its a bit hard to remember some things because when i go into my obsesive compulsive side on this stuff i just go at it and then some solutions also provide a solution to several things and when i recall the results its a hodgpodge of several successes,,this is part of the reason why im a bit feared by some, they canot contol me and fear that if i have influence then my solutions may cause there greedy ways to fail completey, they will not be able to impose unjust will on another, free will is not do what you want because you have a bigger stick, free will is actualy being yourself as in your soul, personal expression and freedom, i think allot of it was written on a few constitutions as well as cultures around the world, oh ya and you know the strange thing is everyone talks about them at times and at how evolved the were, so what is the real issue, ya allot talk about the ways of native americans and how noble they are as well as the constitution and on and on throughout the eons,,,,,,,,,,,,,so why is it that everyone wants someone else to do it for them, dam its incredible that the false ones the pretenders can muster suport, shit a guy named Michael almost acomplished his false claim to my titls, i would not have taken it so perosnaly if i hadnt almost died of convenient accidents and illnesses at least once a year from 1997 until present, this include bleading to death, blunt force trama to the spine, body temps above 106 a couple of times, chicken pox at 28, and the one that was the clencher waking up in a puddle of water in my bathroom with an extension cord inches away from the water about to touch it the only way i survived that was because some how even though the carpet leading to where it was plugged in was soaked somehow there was kindove a negitive puddle in the water almost about to close i awoke in time and saw it imediately and bolted to uplug it, im sure youve seen this happen on linoleum when there is a gradual buildup of water and itis following the paht of least resistance. Luckly i had a path of lesser resistance than the electricity.


Shock a meme and you may find a truth or at the very least destroy a false meme.

[kimball13]

from wikipedia
Meme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A meme (pronounced /miːm/ - rhyming with "theme"), a postulated unit or element of cultural ideas, symbols or practices, gets transmitted from one mind to another through speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena. (The etymology of the term relates to the Greek word mimema for "something imitated".[1]) Supporters of the concept of memes believe that they act as cultural analogues to genes, in that they self-replicate and respond to selective pressures.[2] Memeticists have not definitively empirically proven the existence of discrete memes or their proposed mechanism; they do not form part of the consensus of mainstream social sciences. Meme theory therefore lacks the same degree of influence granted to its counterpart and inspiration, genetics.

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Memetic engineering
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Memetic engineering is a term developed and coined by three individuals; Leveious Rolando, John Sokol, and Gibran Burchett while they researched and observed the behavior of people after being purposely exposed (knowingly and unknowingly) to certain memetic themes. The term is based on Richard Dawkins' theory of memes.
The process of developing memes, through meme-splicing and memetic synthesis, with the intent of altering the behavior of others in society or humanity.
The process of creating and developing theories or ideologies based on an analytical study of societies, cultures, their ways of thinking and the evolution of their minds.
The process of modifying human beliefs, thought patterns, etc.

[kimball13]

But then what would the real Pendragon know about any of this stuff, or how to battle it

[kimball13]

Applied memetic engineering

Memetic engineering as a social science lends examples of itself in multiple areas and disciplines. It is currently being examined and researched by the US military as a means to counter insurgency and combat terrorism as explained below in From the Clash to the Confluence of Civilizations by Thomas P.M. Barnett an American military geostrategist, the Pentagon and Richard J. Pech's Inhibiting Imitative Terrorism Through Memetic Engineering.
Other examples of applied memetic engineering are present but not exclusive to the marketing and advertising industries.

[B]The question is whether these individuals can be truly considered memetic engineers./B]


oh this is a funny one especialy because how do you know if they know what they are talking about if there main job is to talk down to you.

Opinion leadership
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Opinion leadership is a concept that arose out of the theory of two-step flow of communication propounded by Paul Lazarsfeld and Elihu Katz. This theory is one of several models that try to explain the diffusion of innovations, ideas, or commercial products.
The opinion leader is the agent who is an active media user and who interprets the meaning of media messages or content for lower-end media users.



[B]and i am a very good example of this one, imagine how does something evolve to overcome an enemy or predator, well the answer is almost always exposure and survival./B]
Dual inheritance theory
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Dual Inheritance Theory (DIT), also known as Gene-Culture Coevolution, was developed in the late 1970s and early 1980s to explain how human behavior is a product of two different and interacting evolutionary processes: genetic evolution and cultural evolution. DIT is a "middle-ground" between much of social science, which views culture as the primary cause of human behavioral variation, and human sociobiology and evolutionary psychology which view culture as an insignificant by-product of genetic selection. In DIT, culture is defined as information in human brains that got there by social learning. Cultural evolution is considered a Darwinian selection process that acts on cultural information. Dual Inheritance Theorists often describe this by analogy to genetic evolution, which is a Darwinian selection process acting on genetic information. [1] Because genetic evolution is relatively well understood, most of DIT examines cultural evolution and the interactions between cultural evolution and genetic evolution.

Kinda funny when i think of it in an abstract way, the look on there faces when i pulled the sword from the stone, and here is why.

I learned allot of things from a native american cerimoni the inipi, or sweat lodge, i carried stones into the lodges for many years, i became a Fire Chief, i spent allot of time with stones, sometimes very large red hot dripping with motlen stone from the pitch fork, there came a point that i was lifting stones as large as my torso and a bit bigger around red hot, so i also witnessed the strength of spirit from my own eyes, but it is a bit odd that what i was doing in a spiritual sense was setting the sword of God free to enter into the lodge and bring life to the people, or if i put it in native ways, the stone prepare themselves in the fire and paint there faces to come into the lodge and teaches us and heal us then the sickness is sent into the fire, and that is my gift or fortey, dealing with those entitys, it makes you very unpopular to the demonic types, or badmedicine types because they know that you know where to send them, you see there are fire keeper, there are head fire keepers, then there are Fire Chiefs, a Fire Chief is also a pipe carrier or keeper of what some call a peace pipe, the diffenrnec is a fire Chief is a bit more Warlike by nature because even when everyone else is at peace the Fire Chief is still on the War path protecting the cerimonys from attack as well as fighting spiritual battles for the tribal elders so that they may focus more on the healing,,,,,,,,,,not to harp on this but this is a reason why the medicine does not work as well as it did and it is so tainted, allot of the tribes no longer know the teachings of the Fire, but they are not lost, and who knows maybe that is what excalibur may symbolize after all it is said that the sword is not physical, as well as in the ways i learnd it is tought that medicine takes on aspects of the one that carries it, so without my kind to help and protect when elders die off and the ones to carrie it on go astray sooner or later they dont want a real fire chief around because he will naturally begin to correct the ways, part of the problem now adays is forgetfulness as well as egos and people calling correction and teaching judgment, am i judging when i say if you start that fire with diesel gas then you will come out of that lodge with a headache or worse, no its not judgment it is a warning,,,,,,,,,,,or the egos of some elders that forgot that a good fire keeper is like a guide in the jungle for an expidition, ya the elder is leading it and with a goal in mind but it is the guide(fire keeper)that warns and guides the cerimony so that it is good, it is team work, maybe that is why when i work a fire i am suprised by the arrogance of some and they think that because ican follow them seemlessly it is there doing and then they try to be my elder, its kinda like a yada thing, but even after they find out that im like a yoda and am younger then i get pissed because i sense ego and domanace issues, but then that is part of the Fire, its pretty simple what happens when you throw chafe at a fire, it will blaze,,,,,,,,,,,or another way to put it is spiritual special forces, first one in last one out. nor only prepares and helps the cerimony but also cleans up, the reason why i know a real elder when i pray with them is by how much we share as well as there participation, in reality if it is done the way it should be as a fire chief if i am doing the fire it should be treated almost as a seprate cerimony especialy if i am not pouring, the reason for this is our of respect for other elders as well as for me, kinda like a visiting sense or other such profesional of similar or same artform,,,,,,,,,,,,or hay i need a specialist or a bit of refresher in teachings, or a monks monk. Crazy maybe but it is a bit coincidental as well as synchronistic if not ironic for it to play out this way.

But you know what wouldnt you want a bit more cheech and chong instead of hitler and pal-pot, and wouldnt a bit of dave chappel and george carlin be nicer than bin laden and sadam husein. even if there is a bit of wolverine mixed in with the stoners, i meen realy wouldnt a stoned wolverine be a bit more on the side of good than a tweeked out jefferie dahmer. Wolverine is only an asshole when drunk or fucked with, hes deadly when your doing bad, so if he dont drink and you dont mess with him then all is cool, and even if hes stoned hes still deadly to evil. So i pay real close attention to personality types and overlook allot of things at times, the only problem i find in some realy is that they may overreact on false info or teaching, or misunderstand or hear, so if you have good people even if all is confused and misinformed there still is a foundation of personal integrity and character even with anger issues like wolverines, and if hes allowed to smoke the herb he may mellow out and stay away from whiskey. So here again a cunundrum, even Trudell knows about the herb, and i to know about it, there is a reason why some peoples are realy alerigic to booze and also the reason why herb has bin illegal and demonized by alcohol and pharmisutical companys. ya its like keep all the worlds wolverines drunk and pissed so that they only are used as muscle and provoked into scarring people to keep them from doing what nature intended them to do,,,,,,,anger managment and such is a joke, ya manage my anger into someones head is what that is for some.

here is some simple psycology,
a normal responce to an insane enviroment is insanity or anger.
maybe the reason why ther is anger is there is actualy something causing it.
so for some rather than become insane like there enviroment they become angry, oh then comes anger management and more cognitive dissonance if you are aware enough to notice it

heres some visualization and concepts, you know the old saying about turning the heat up slowly on a pot of water with frogs in it and they will not know they are being boiled to death until its to late.
here is how some are fooled, imagine someone flicking your ear while your trying to pay attention in class and the teacher says your crazy the person behind you would never do such a thing, it keeps happening even with the teacher looking in you dirrection so you begin to believe its in your head but all that flicking still has an effect and this can become congnitive dissonace, when you insides dont match your outsides and you dont know why, and who know maybe if this happens enough it may cause a type of dissasotiative disorder or split personality in some people

[kimball13]

Dual inheritance theory, funny how this is developed during my formative years,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and some wonder why i feel so violated.

[kimball13]

This is difficult to say and post for many reasons.
I want to make it clear that in 97 when i delivered the pipe maker with Chief Sparrow Eagles chanupa. I knew something serious was taking place, and when i looked into the eyes of another Apache there i knew that he also felt that was happening and about to happen had something to do with me.
At the time i had a choice to stay and participate or to go on my way and do what i had planned anyways. I left before the injustice occured. There is no telling what may have taken place if i was there. This ties into what was to happen the next year in ST louse, st lou was where i was moving to at the same time of the raid, i was on my way to ca to pick up my belongings and tie some loose ends then on my way to be with the woman i planned to marry. In st lou i was tested as i mentioned earlier in this thread for a month, at the end there was mention of fbi school,,,,,,,,so you see,,,,,,,it seems that they want me broken or niave/ignorant and in the dark working for them.
So who knows all of what realy happend or how many where payed of or scared off from me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe its what they have always done to the real medicine people,,,,,,,,,,there is an apache story of a medicine person they called the Dreamer, they sent around 23 apache scouts with soldiers to arrest or kill him because they feared him so much they did not want him rallying his people, in the end of all the gun fire, 17 scouts dead as well as more soldiers, the dreamer died from his head being cut off,,,,,,,,,,,what that means is they could not kill him with bullets or simple stabbing,,,,,,,,,,which is why they must have feared him so much, he had very powerfull war medicine, and the proof is in the 17 scouts that died in the fight.

So i take a chance on putting this up, but i do think if my brothers are of sound mind and remember what has happend in just there life they will understand and hopefully begin to support me so that i may support them also,,,,,. We all have bin missused and made decisions based on trying to keep the most people alive and as healthy as possible,,,,,,,,sitting bull wass the last to lay his rifle down, so itis only fitting that his grand nephew picks up the spiritual rifle and calls his people to pick up the spiritual tools and prepare to pray in an honest way, cry out, send a voice.

Oh but you may ask why all the trouble to make sure that someone like me is not in council circles of either of my people, and by birth and deed i have earned my seat, i earned it and learned it before i even knew exatly what it was. Then i found out why i was having so much covert conflict. And because of my apache type stuff i could feal it when happening, yet because i had no one to counsel with on these matters that understood it as well as the ways of the enemy i had to do allot of research about my own life and my ancestors, and what i found was i cannot fight the enemy with the enemys ways because it would make me sick and hurt my medicine,,,,,,,,,,but then if youve heard stories of native american war and medicine heroes they always have some funny idiosyncrasy that they do or do not do because of the medicine that Great Spirit has given them.

So i post this from a webpage because i want to make it very clear how long ive bin dealing with this amount of attacks and how many have bin lied to and coerced into bad decisions.
97-98 were doosys, i underwent that testing, an experimental surgery, several other things, oh ya an the artifacts of king arthur were publicly realed, as well as the usa templars being taken over by fakers. And where was the real Pendragon durring all of this well he stopped by this sundance, oh ya i just told you were he/i was.
http://www.ouachitalk.com/pineridge.htm

Subject: Sundance 1998 Pine Ridge, SD

PRESS RELEASE: Dated: August 4, 1998

Triple "S" Rescue Mission

An American Indian Spiritual Ministry

Richard Swallow Sr.

P.O. Box 65, Chadron, NE 69337-0065

Tel. (308) 432-5427



PRESS RELEASE: Dated: August 4, 1998



From: Chief Richard SparrowEagle

Regarding the Standing Buffalo Sundance, Porcupine, S. Dakota

To: ALL NATIONS AND ALL PEOPLE who may be concerned

I, Richard SparrowEagle, am a Traditional Spiritual Leader and newly elected Chief of the Standing Buffalo Band of the Lakota People. My leadership has been handed down to me through my grandfathers and by the will of the people.

I carry a vision of the Medicine Wheel. This vision is on for all the nations united. A vision of Unity for all of the 12 nations of this

earth, under one God - one Creator. This vision has come in many similar ways to the leaders of my people for many generations, even before Columbus. My vision is to teach this Medicine Wheel to all Nations of the Four Corners of the Earth. To bring Peace and Harmony into our life today.

1998 is the 12th year that the Standing Buffalo Sundance has come to be.

My brother David Swallow is a traditional medicine man who has lead this ceremony for this time. This Sundance takes place on my fathers land in Porcupine, Pine Ridge, S. Dakota. That is the prison camp called a "reservation" that my people are forced to live on by the Government.

Last year, in 1997, our Sundance was invaded on the first day of the ceremony by armed ATF, FBI, BIA tribal police, and others who stand against the Medicine Wheel. They produced falsified documents and ill will. They stormed our camp with direct intention of inciting a riot and attempting to break the prayers of the people.

We fought back only with prayers and gave them no violent response.

They, however, tried to arrest me with a false warrant and if not for the support of my people would have beaten me or even taken my life. But we worked through all of this with prayers through the will of Tungasila Ate Wakan Tanka (which means the Trinity of GOD) we continued with our ceremony.

All the while the BIA were flying helicopters over us and other families of native ways who do not recognize the Medicine Wheel, gave us much resistance in every way they could, psychologically, emotionally, physically and spiritually. They harassed us on all fronts, even outside the ceremony in our local townships.

Today in 1998, once again we stand facing these very same dark forces.

These people, some of whom represent and have influence over the Oglala Sioux Tribal Council, have formulated an ordinance to prohibit our constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion. It is called Ordinance No. 98-25. This document is enclosed in this e-mail. Please note that this ordinance goes to the extremes of pro-hibiting non-natives from caring or having in their possession sage, cedar, pine boughs, sweetgrass, etc.

It is truly unjust and laughable that this has taken place.

This ordinance was signed on the 24th of July and received by the Pine Ridge Agency on the 28th day of July, by the Tribal Council, who by the way have chosen to conveniently leave the state at this time, leaving their people hanging.

As it stands today, many of my people, including myself are being threatened directly, with statements of physical violence if we continue with our Sacred Ceremony. We do not want a repeat of what happened last year. We want only to have a peaceful ceremony to pray as we pray and live as we have chosen to live on our family's land. That is the fulfillment of our vision and the will of our Creator.

I, Richard SparrowEagle, am sending this message out to all as a plea for assistance and support, and to bring awareness that the constitution once again is bring shredded and disregarded. We urgently need your prayers and attention from all nations and all people who stand to defend freedom in this country. AND WE NEED IT TODAY! Our ceremony begins today Aug. 4, 1998 and continues through to Aug. 8, 1998.

Please support us in any way that you can. Our ceremonial grounds are isolated from most cell phones and outside contact. However, we have established contact personnel. The people must know outside in the world everywhere.



Thank you, Pilmaya

Sincerely,

Chief Richard SparrowEagle/Swallow

Standing Buffalo Band



For information regarding this issue please contact the following people.

To voice your protest and concern to the tribal office contact:

Oglala Sioux Tribal Office at 605-867-5821, ask for Theresa TwoBulls, fax number 605-876-1004 or Milo Yellow Hair, vice-president at same number.

For additional information on behalf of this ceremony please contact:

Sue Sargent at 760-365-1860.

Bob or Pat Swart at 707-422-0219

Email at Lakotamom@aol.com



HERE IT IS! THE KIND OF RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION YOU'VE LEARNED TO LOVE!

ORDINANCE NO. 98-25

ORDINANCE OF THE OGLALA SIOUX TRIBAL COUNCIL OF THE OGLALA SIOUX TRIBE

(An Unincorporated Tribe)



ORDINANCE OF THE OGLALA SIOUX TRIBE PROHIBITING POSSESSION OF WILD ANIMAL, BIRD AND/OR PLANT PARTS USED BY MEMBERS OF THE OGLALA SIOUX TRIBAL FOR TRADITIONAL RELIGIOUS PURPOSES BY NON-MEMBERS OF ANY FEDERAL RECOGNIZED INDIAN TRIBE AND ANY NON-INDIAN.

WHEREAS, the Oglala Sioux Tribe has the inherent right to the free exercise of their traditional Lakota religious practices, and

WHEREAS, such right is also affirmed by the United States Constitution in the Bill of Rights, as well as the 1968 Indian Civil Rights Act and Native American Free Exercise of Religion Act of 1993, and

WHEREAS, there are presently a number of self-proclaimed medicine men exploiting the Lakota religion and spirituality by allowing non-Indians to participate, for a monetary fee, in the observance of traditional Lakota religious ceremonies, including the possession of plant, animal and bird feathers and parts, and

WHEREAS, it is the intent of the Oglala Sioux Tribe to eliminate the sale and exploitation of the Teton Sioux Religion and spirituality for profit, and

WHEREAS, the elimination of the sale of religion and spirituality may be best addressed by the adoption of an Ordinance identify such sale and exploitation a criminal offense, now THEREFORE BE IT ORDAINED, that the Oglala Sioux Tribal Council does hereby adopt the following Ordinance outlawing the sale or possession of Wild Animal, Bird and/or Plant parts, including, but not limited to feathers, hides, or skins, sweet grass or sage for use by non-Indians for traditional religious purposes.

No person other than enrolled members of the Oglala Sioux Tribe, non-enrolled members of the Oglala Sioux tribe whose application for enrollment is on file with the Oglala Sioux Tribe Enrollment Office, or enrolled members of any other federally recognized tribe shall possess or have in their possession, sells, gives away, disposes of, exchanges or barter any animal, bird and/or plant parts including but not limited to, bones of any bird, talons of any bird, animal hides, animal bones, animal teeth, sweet grass, sage, cherry branches and pipe boughs.

In any event of violation of this ordinance any officer of the Oglala Sioux Public Safety Department or Oglala Sioux Parks and Recreation Authority is authorized to confiscate such bird, animal or animal part.

Any person who has property confiscated as the result of a violation of this ordinance may petition the Oglala Sioux Tribal Cultural Committee for return of such property.

C-E-R-T-I-F-I-C-A-T-I-O-N

I, as undersigned Secretary of the Oglala Sioux Tribal Council, hereby certify that this Ordinance was adopted by the vote of: 14 for; 0 against, 0 abstain, and 0 not voting, during a REGULAR SESSION held on the 24th day of JULY, 1998.

THERESA B. TWO BULLS

Secretary

Oglala Sioux Tribe

A-T-T-E-S-T:

R. MILO YELLOW HAIR

Vice-President

Oglala Sioux Tribe

Received July 28, 1998 Pine Ridge Agency

[kimball13]

pretty , how do they say surrealistic.

imagine just a fictional story based on this premis.

The dirrect desendant of a fictional king that is raised by a europeon family that married the grandaughter of Sitting Bull and War Eagle, two Sioux chiefs as well as his grandmother on his other side of family not just being Irish but also may be a bit Apache and or Iraqis(last of the Mohicans), funny that daniel day louses character was Scottish in that movie. All she would tell me was something about cerimony's on White mountain reservation, and i think there were making of women cerimony's so that would be Apache,,,,,,,,Then put in this person knowing since about 13 that he was part royalty but the only reference the family had was a Shakespeare fictional mention of the family in the play Cymbeline, but then Cole was another as well as Lear. ya he wrote of the amount of manitpulation and trials the family has endured in very fictional accounts and slipped some clues in there to at the very least preserve the family names somewhere,,,,,,,,,,,Kimball=Cymbeline, there are several diffent spellings, but as we all know how hand writting can cause certain letters to apear as another when it is coppied to another medium.
So this kid being influenced not only by his envioroments and finding his way to the native american ways of prayer is kept from ever learning much of his Celtic heritage, he sets out on a journey that does not include gentics in his mind, in fact i/he used to mention allot that it did not matter where your genes came from anyone can be a medicine/holy man or warrior.
And you know what i found was there is a genetic predispostion to certain things,,,,,,,,,,,it makes no difference what continent you are on,,,,,,,,,,,here is what i meen,,,,,,,,,,,my family have built several kingdoms of which the people prosperd and lived in harmony as best could be accomplished at the time, we always came and united the clans/tribes/ groups of kings, probley the most famouse and least understood was Briton when we united the celtic tribes to hold back the Roman empire(we fcked em up),,,,,,,,,But somewhere along the line the thing that happens most often is a traitor does dirty, kinda like what happend in france with pippin the fat(Pepin the short, or Carroligian/Charlemange, get it Char The Mange)the story of what happend to Daggobert, oh ya and by the way Daggoberts crippled son did survive and his desendents live today, who knows maybe i am that to. another funny ha ha is i lived a very similar experience as that of daggoberts handicapped son includeing witnessing my father being wounded in the same way and it takeinghim a long time to die(in his case 16 years),,,,,,,,,it was also his death and my grandfathers that the attacks increased as well as became more deadly and hurtfull, if the towers were not hurtfull and deadly then ive bin watching fiction as well as living it,,,,,,,,,,,im done denying it, my thinking im just crazy or making more out it that what it is just has left me open for more attacks as welll as my life just get worse, so in a sense the very attacks they have done might have just activated certain DNA codes in me:eek: now i wonder what that would be, ya a mixture of Pendragon,Merovingian,Apache with Lakota spiritual training and the red road as his guide. Then there is the blue lightning and orbs that began to show up while i poured inipi ceremony's, it was the same color as the ones in my vision back in 94,,,,,,,i think they call the color Azure. So i reflect on it all and the visions i had, and i think now i know why some became very uncomfortable when i spoke of them, or they would act like they knew nothing, but im sure for some of them that is what Great Spirit wanted them to do,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i found that it was the enemy that was more interested in my visions and such, that is also why the only thing some want me for in cerimony around where i live is to work the fire,,,,,,,,,,,,i wen to one last year andit was the same as allot of wannabees,,,,they want em there to teach them by them observing me while they try to convince myself and other that they are spiritual,,,,,,,,,to tell you the truth if you teach a gorrila to speak and pour water some will think he is a very spiritual man especialy if he tickles your ears while he is practicing being the ultimate authority durring the cerimonys, ya know a power trip. So it usualy becomes uncomfortable because they either already know that i realy am there elder or they realize it later and try to denie it, then some even feal like i was playing a game ofstupid,,,,,,,,,well i always tell them when working the fire i can work with any elder, i also say i teach everyone while im at the fire includeing the lodge pourer, yet i also learn from all, what usualy happens is they are a bit confused so they revert back to the ways of the world in there understanding because someone like me doesnt exist in there concrete reality,,,,,,,,,,,,,so if my style of writing changes it is because i am just going to speak the way i want to and if it sounds a bit goofy, or sing song, maybe a bit rythmic or a few lymerics then im just going with a bit or what a myth would be if there was an actual rift. Most play word games i just write and then read yet its not automatic because i am writting what i am thinking and what i am finding in the best way i know how, and comming from only having a self taught reading education by reading the bible as well as being taught the native ways(red road),,so to be honest the only real education i have is that of reading the bible on my own for 29 years, Lakota inipi, vision quest, sundance, chanupa, fire, martial arts and a very hard life================I wonder, could it be Arthur's return, which by the way is spoken of in several native american tribes just not by exact name, here is one simple way to put it they say the elders will return as the children of white man, this doesnt meen that there wont be more than white in the woodpile,,,,,,,,,,,and if Great Spirit is going to bring the great leaders of the past why wouldn't he bring King ARthur back,,,,,,,but who knows maybe i was also Crazy Horse, could be, after all my history has that of being stabbed in the back by my own people, look it up, and that time it showed me that sometimes it is by mistake, maybe that was a good day to die because of that lesson being carried into this life, ive survived the accidental attacks and hold no ill will towards those that were mistaken, i leave the verdict of what is a mistake and what was done intentionaly with full knowledge to Tungashila(God). I remember that day and when i visited that spot i did all that i could so that no one would notice me reliving what i thought was just a childhood dream, i remember singing that day also and when they told the story of my death and when they said about the singing i knew yet i did not believe, i meen think of it who am i to even consider being Crazy Horse in a past life, but now i know, it is because i was he.


Oh by the way Booze will take your medicine away, there are alternatives that have bin used as well as considered to be sacrament,,,,,,,,,,,,if it is legal or at least accepted where you live maybe instead of a bottle of whiskey spark up a spliff(smoke some herb instead),,,,,,,,,i would like to emphasise this to medicine people, warriors and people with ptsd,,,,,,,,as well as if you may be of merovingian blood or native american blood........the reason for this is very simple and a little out there but here it is, it weakens your medicine, it takes away, and sometimes it controls you and perverts what you were taught or born with.

Maybe i am lucky that i focussed on learning and being instead of knowing who i am or where i came from, the reason for this is ive seen allot of native brothers as well as celtic that learn a little and the portray themselves as being elders or such,,,,,,,,,it is not all there fault,,,,,,ive sat and watched a drunk indian become a medicine man overnight because he was drinking with a bunch of rednecks and they thought he looked like a medicine man and they got along so they all thought that hay a toke indian, oh ya ive seen this in many ways not just the bar, sometimes it takes longer than over night, ya its how some of them try to be legit on both sides..........im probley speaking to allot of the choir but hay we all need a reminder at times, and im sure there are times when ive bin guilty of something similar when i paid someone a compliment and it got taken way to far, then when i try to calm them down oh boy then im the bad guy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,its like i point out to some something, then they take that one thing and amplify it, what i always forget is just because it happens to me almost on a daily basis does not meen i should point out it happening to them this one time,,,,,,,,,,i meen they realy think its a miracle or something(thing is it is usualy a miracle),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so now instead i try to find ways to get them to notice certain things without telling them because in the past they took it as some great compliment and ended up acting a bit to big for there britches towards myself, it weird because they somehow think to be above me after words its weird, but then maybe its because the things that happen for me like that are a common occurenct but then i am under attack every single fucking day so miricles happening on a daily basis are realy a nesecity so i dont have time to attach much ego to it to make myself more presentable for the public,,,,,,,,,,,,you know a PR campaign.....Then sometimes it like they get what they wanted to learn or find a little secret or what ever that works and think they can kick the teacher to the curb and i do meen kick me and then they do it when im down,,,,,,,,,,,but then maybe im doing just what i did when i was crazy horse. I SAVE the tribe and give my extra away and take nothing, then they disrespect me and try to take my honor so that they may have all, so this is going to be the final act for some ofthem, but then maybe the Red Cloud family knew who i am and there is bad blood between red cloud and crazy horse.

[waylander]

I am a dirrect desendnt of the Historical King Arthur ,,, i also have a pinch of Apache from my dearly departed Father and Grandmother.


I can trump that!

Iam a direct descendant of Father Christamas on me Mums side of the family, and the tooth fairy on me Dads side:cool:

Live long and prosper:)

Waylander:cool:

[kimball13]

I can trump that!

Iam a direct descendant of Father Christamas on me Mums side of the family, and the tooth fairy on me Dads side:cool:

Live long and prosper:)

Waylander:cool:
and who am i to disbelieve you, but usualy someone of your need to discredit someone with insults usually comes from just that a nead to make others just as voletile and in nead of lowering other to a lower standard so as to elevate themselves or so it seems, yet most just lower others.

But then you probley did not check any of my facts or assumtions, did you.
you may have only taken it at the face value that you see in the morning.
it must be hard to read a thread like mine, mainly because it what movies are made of, imagine someone having you beat on just life experience of the hardship and drama others intentionaly create for themselves to justifie there existance and her you have someone that did not want it and fought it to the point of almost death because who am i to even think such a thing, then i put two and two together and realized that everytime i came close to the truth and didnt go of and get soused or have a major panic attack things change as well as bad people get what they deserve.

so think of it a minute, hay maybe better yet i could scan and post a few of my medical records,,,,,,,,,,just with that should show cause for alarm on my part,

And from what i know is father christmas was a real person that was of wealth and he helped the impoverished durring a time of need andit became a kinda tradition.
But hay thank you for your skeptisism but realy i said the very same type of stuff to myself for a long time.
before i understood the depth of it i just thought it to be a trivial thing, i knew of the masonic connection of my family as well as rumor of being desendent of a royal named cymbeline but the only historical reference was a fictional depiction in a Shakespearian play so i never took it to seriously, then when i found corelations between things happening iin my life and when i found out in around 2001-2002 that back in 1997 information of artifacts found was released to the public, those objects found coincided with family legends as well as traceing us to which family we were, that was part of the family mystery, you see i knew we were royal since childhood but part of the information that was lost to history was which house were we,,,,,,,,,,anyways what was already a life filled with hardship yet i still followed a spiritual path but in 1997 things got realy weird and progresivly got weirder then after 911 it got even weirder, then after it became known that i knew and was uncovering evidence left and right just based on stuff before my birth, then i noticed oh crap, because of being around many professionals that knew how to distance themselves and become emotionally and personally detached i had to do that with myself and take a clear look at myself and accept what i saw, i was looking for defects of my charector of which i found many but i still had to llook deaper and by looking at my life this way i realized that if i took the template of my life and put it over that of some stories i noticed that it matched perfectly, the same storys of the prophecys doing with a king that would return,,,,,,,,,,his story is even mentioned in some native tribes as the one that would come to them, there white brother, the real one that they thought was the one before yet it turned out to be cortez and a few other false ones,,,,,,,,,,,it was also said that the real one would be denied by the people and attacked, ridiculed, shamed, he would be veiwed as dispicable and clothed in there inequity, a robe drenched in blood. But then hay it happend there is nothingi can do to change the truth, and if my use of abstract concepts and ideas to describe something is uncomfortable then oh well,,,,,,,,it was not i that traced my ancestry as far back as they did, actualy it goes back about another 4,000 years or so prior to Arthur to include Troy.

it funny that some went even as far as when i asked who the rider of the white horse is they said the anti-christ, they even argued this point. and this is when i knew just how bad the missinterpetations have gotten and the blind obediance to principalitys and powers many have succomed to heres the scriture.


The Rider on the White Horse

11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter."[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
17And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, "Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great."

19Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.


to begin with there are two misconceptions of this person one is that he is the anti-christ the other is he is christ,,,,he is called Faithful and True, The Word of God, and on his robe and thigh he has this name written King of Kings Lord of Lords, ever think maybe thats who the Word serves.
1I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" 2I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

and here again some say oh he was given a crown so they thing he only has one crown in this verse, it doesnt say that, it says he was given a crown.

But then i also wonder why allot of people dont take something at what it is and would rather build a house of lies and peices that dont fit.

So if you are whom you think you are pleas elaborate on the whole tooth fairy thing im curios, and if your just being an ass then so be it at least you told on yourself and i hope others see that you choose to be part of the problem rather than the solution, and if your just a skeptic at least ask a question or provide some evidence against mine because your just giving skeptic a bad rap.............But i think i know your type, youve only succeded on the coat tail of others by putting others down and making them look worse than yourself thus maniputavly ingratiating yourself with people of influence,,,,,,,,,,,,ya ive embarred a few and didnt meen to, imagine that when someone puts me down and its all because they assumed i would fold or wasnt as intlegent as they and oh boy is it embarrasing.

imagine if someone in millitary or whatever asks for someone ot be checked on and those involved assumed it was for criminal reasons and treats me that way, or they find out that the one theyve bin screwing with is royalty of cultural/spiritual value, or con artists doing a inheritance con never fully realze the size of the con etc there have bin several scenarios that have happend. So because of there lies and and such my grandmother went from commenting on how i was just like my grandfather to in around 2001 she said i was worthless, this happend at a time of there main attacks, the enemy was in full swing and they were having success, and i dont go down period, so it wounded me greatly that that is the last conversationi had with her, but i know she knows diffenrnt now and looking back it helped that she said that over the phone as we were being listend to bieng as she was living in Masonic elderly housing and well i will say the enemr realy got arrogant because of that simple sentance she said as well as other things,,,,,,,,what better way to get your enemy to show themselves as well as there intentions and the reasons behind there attacks than to be in a state that would render me incapacitated and on the verge of suicide or other ugly thing and without resources or help.

So i am looking forward to reading something that refutes any of my claims as to my heritage and rights to certain titles, please do because ive already got some people inhigh places that cannot and because of this they think dragging there feat and liquidation of assets and putting them in others names is going to help, but i assure you if they could do what they did to me it should be a cake walk to take it back.

Why do you think those burger eating american being the heir to a europeon throne came out in the 80's depicting a stupid couch potato,,,,,,,,,,,,now what if that was true, the only differnce is that this one is closer to what royalty is than the current ones playing Queeny, soory to be so pointed but after all she hasnt bin to helpfull,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya it would save her and the vatican allot of money as well as the usa government, imagine all of the property that would be turned over as well as the apology by the american goverment that would have to happen. There are land holdings and such that the vatican would have to turn over as well as even the french, then there is whats it called Buckingham oh and those crown jewels, then there is Scotland and Jerusalem, so there to some in Israel would loose there influence and it may cause a third party to lay claim to that land and if so then would that escalte it? probley not because if i twould then they would let it happen, it may create a peace and that is why they are so against it,,,,,,,,,,,oh it is that politcal for me not just because of current polotics but because of past,,,,,,,,,,,,you see there are documents and such that were neverchanged or even the laws concerning because they never thought we still existed,,,,,,,,,,,heck i think a french royal as well as others are on record in the vatican archives as saying that if i ever was found he would reliquish all titles and assets including his crown, then the laws of succession would put me realy as most European royal houses because most of there founders including some of the current ones justified there claim by claim kinship therefore that puts me ahead of all of them in succession therefore that would give me authority to redistribute the kingdoms as well as titles, and what if i chose my closest relitives, and what if somehow i have enough children of adult age to move in and take over the dutys of royals. or not.

it realy is that simple, i invite it, and because i would like to know how close to the mark i am, go to the mormon archives and look up kimball, you may have someone sit with you to make sure you dont acces any classified info, and remember i am not a utah or California one.

so im either crazy or telling the truth, what other type would spend so much time writting this stuff

[waylander]

Hops Barley Yeast & water apparently !

They used to say it was only ever brewed in Bremen. But if you mix it with flour and allbran you should get it about right. Especially if you add a good curry.

Waylander son of Thor!:cool:

[waylander]

so im either crazy or telling the truth,

MMMmm!

Tough call ;):cool::p

Waylander:cool:

[kimball13]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=3391&albumid=49&dl=1239992410&thumb=1

[kimball13]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=3415

[kimball13]

if you like look up some of those medical terms,,,,,,,,,as well as ask yourself what is an inferior vena cava or collateral arteries, as well as an enlarged azigos vein, or evn the enlarged adrenal gland or kindneys, i wonder what advantages or disandvantages that would cause.

oh ya did you also notice the condition of my bowels my whole life, oh ya i wonder how sane someone would have to be to deal with that and if not sane then i would have bin realy up shit creak(pun intended) and you know what i learned the best thing to do when without a paddle is get out and walk on the trail, that way your also out of the shit creak, as well as who would want to go with the flow everyone knows thats were the bad water is, that is also the course all the septic and sludge takes down river so why not get out of that paluted creak and do a little foot work before you fall into that creek and come down with and incurable deadly disease.

maybe ill pull out my x-rays and stuff later and learn how to use that darn thingy to highlight the area to make it easy to see the little thingys that dont belong.

oh ya and after my own research according to the medical profesion i only had a 6% chance of living to 13, i should have died of a heart attack, but there again they were wrong and instead nature actualy made mine a bit better, not my doing just a freak act of nature, this and other things also cause an increase of thought process in certain areas so my doing well not all of it just maybe the spiritual choices ive made and i am thankfull they are of my understanding of God.

[waylander]

who am i to even consider being Crazy Horse in a past life, but now i know, it is because i was he.


Well never mind the past life your half way there in this life;)

All you need now is the Horse.:rolleyes:

Waylander cousin of Spiderman:cool:

[kimball13]

Well never mind the past life your half way there in this life;)

All you need now is the Horse.:rolleyes:

Waylander cousin of Spiderman:cool:

good one, you must be archy bunker, oh great cousin of spidy, oh and i always thought spidy was polite, i suppose you must have skipped that gene,,,,,,,,,,or maybe yyoure just some disgusting creacture that only finds satisfaction in offending others by attacking uniportant iformation because you know to attack anything of importants would be distastefull.

Common i gave you an open shot with the medical records or the congrestional thing.

But then i suppose cutural shots are ok, so are you a racist and have a problem with native americans:D i just hope you remember that, hay maybe i will check out some of your posts, maybe there is a petern here, or is it that you just cant stand yourself.

for now i will just assume you are a culturally handicapped individual without the capacity to accept that there are things of more beauty than your stretched orifices as you must pray to the porcelain god.

so should i now give the obligatory thank you for the opportunity to grow and learn to take criticism,,,,,,,,,,,,,,naaaaaaaaaa that time is past and didn't work to well, boy was that concept a problem, good people thanking sickos for the opportunity to grow boy was that a bad idea,,,,,,,,,,,