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hunkahunka
05-02-2009, 04:29 PM
Roseanne Barr
Roseanne Barr became famous in the early 1980s
with her stand-up comedy routine, whichled to her series on ABC,
called Roseanne.
After the end of her sitcom's run,
she portrayed the Wicked Witch of the West in The Wizard of Oz at Madison Square Garden.video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2Kzzy7ZYIwCommercial for Madison Square Garden production of
THE WIZARD OF OZ starring Roseanne Barr as the
Wicked Witch.
soulja
05-02-2009, 05:34 PM
shows how important the Wizard of Oz script is to these MK celebs.
from all the celebs we have covered in this thread about half have some connection to Oz.
here's another one, Maria Kanellis
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http://www.wrestlingnewsdesk.com/WND/images/stories/story%20files/042908/Maria%20K%207.jpg
kitten alter ?
Maria Frances Louise Kanellis (born February 25, 1982)[3] is an American professional wrestler and model of Greek heritage, currently signed to World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) performing on its SmackDown brand.
Kanellis was a contestant on the reality show Outback Jack in 2004. In the same year, she placed fifth in the Raw Diva Search, but was later hired by WWE as a backstage interviewer. Kanellis began competing in the ring as a wrestler in 2005. It was not until 2007, however, that she received her greatest push in the company, as the on-screen love interest of Santino Marella. As a result, she received more air time and began winning more matches than she had previously. She also posed for the April 2008 cover of Playboy magazine, which was incorporated into a storyline on Raw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Kanellis
Maria as Dorothy
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hunkahunka
05-02-2009, 06:32 PM
Larry Birkhead Buys Anna Nicole Smith's Old Lingerie for Dannielynn
Larry Birkhead paid nearly $3,000 at an auction Saturday for lingerie worn by late ex Anna Nicole Smith in a Playboy shoot.
Birkhead explained he paid $1,800 for a pink bustier and $1,000 for a white negligee because he wanted to give their 1-year-old daughter Dannielynn a keepsake of her mother.
"I have a lot of history I have to put together that she doesn't really know about," he told the Associated Press. "Playboy was such a big part of Anna's career.
"You know, it's not something I can show today, but something down the road," he added. "It's not going to be in any bedtime stories anytime soon."
Birkhead was given sole custody of Dannielynn after Smith's drug-induced death in February 2007. Dannielynn was named the sole heir to Smith's estate
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Larry Birkhead and Dannielynn Smith arrive at the Launch celebration party for The Simpson's Ride at Universal Studios Hollywood on May 17, 2008 in Universal City, California.
Barry King/WireImage
hunkahunka
05-02-2009, 08:15 PM
http://www.thehumphries.org/idaho/private_idaho.jpg
quote:
References to the Wizard of Oz abound Van Sant's work. I could make a case for Idaho as a remake. Once the house crashes on the road, Mike isn't in Idaho anymore. Both Oz and Idaho are road movies in which the leading characters try to find their homes (Scott seeks the approval of his father, Mike looks for his mother). False fathers abound: in Oz the Wizard; in Idaho, Bob Pigeon for Scott, Scott for Mike. The searches are aided and hampered by good and bad fairies (pun intended). Scott clicks his heels and goes home to heterosexuality; Mike's shoes are robbed from him.
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schaff
05-02-2009, 10:06 PM
I find this thread a wealth of info .Here's a thread started by niall you may be interested in.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=782336&posted=1#post782336
soulja
06-02-2009, 10:29 PM
http://www.thehumphries.org/idaho/private_idaho.jpg
''follow the yellow brickroad''
soulja
06-02-2009, 10:35 PM
I find this thread a wealth of info .Here's a thread started by niall you may be interested in.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=782336&posted=1#post782336
i've read the thread. good stuff, it's just that i don't have anything to add really. btw, i don't think he is wasting his time, quite the opposite imo.
soulja
07-02-2009, 09:43 PM
had a quick look and got to say Carters name and Bloodline is interesting.
Nickolas Gene Carter (born January 28, 1980) is an American actor, musician, and pop singer. He is a member of the musical group The Backstreet Boys and the older brother of Aaron Carter. Carter is named after his maternal grandfather Douglas "Charles" Spaulding and paternal grandfather (Aaron Charles Carter). Carter's father, Robert Eugene Carter, is a Jewish American and his mother, Jane E. Spaulding, is a Mayflower descendant of Welsh, Irish, German, English and 1/4 Blackfoot ancestry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Carter_(musician)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfoot
that's quite the mix there and he isn't the first one in this thread who has bloodlinks to the natives. reminds me of Springmeier's 13 Bloodlines of the Illuminati where he wrote that some of these bloodlines married into Native american families to gain supposed occult/magical powers.
http://tattoos-101.tattoofinder.com/files/nick_carter_all.jpg
hunkahunka
08-02-2009, 03:52 PM
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http://www.thewhocollection.com/daltrey/cds/w.jpg
Roger Daltrey solos on If I Only Had A Heart. A bunch of other celebrities are on this charity show - Debra Winger, Jewel, Natalie Cole and Jackson Browne. Roger also sings on other songs (he is the Tin Man, after all!).
video:
http://en-gb.facebook.com/video/video.php?oid=8610378931&v=1002910869805
Roger Daltrey as Boq the Tin Man
video:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?oid=8610378931&
v=1010863468615
singer 'Jewel' landed the part of Dorothy
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Here latest song contains the line 'goodbye Alice in Wonderland, goodbye yellow brick road'
http://www.sleurink.nl/images/album_covers/thumbs/1246f.jpg
hunkahunka
08-02-2009, 03:59 PM
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA9JzY9zaK4&feature=related
hunkahunka
08-02-2009, 04:15 PM
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Rosie O'Donnell crashes Roseanne Barr routine at Comix Comedy Club in New York
the real surprise came when out of the audience former View co-host Rosie O'Donnell jumped onstage for a little Barbara Walters bashing. Rosie started off by saying, "When I was fired by Barbara Walters" - the first time she didn't stick to "The View's" spin that her departure from the show was by mutual agreement. Rosie claimed onstage that Walters and other "View" hosts wear earpieces through which producers tell them what to say, which she refused to do. Rosie also confided that she and the veteran newswoman were actually so close early on in her tenure as moderator that Walters recommended Rosie use Astroglide, which, she added, took her by surprise."But she paved the way for women," Rosie allowed. "She interviewed Presidents ... " "Like Abraham Lincoln," snapped Barr
soulja
08-02-2009, 04:22 PM
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Jewel was born in Payson, Utah. Shortly after birth her family moved to Homer, Alaska. She is the daughter of Lenedra Carroll, an artist and personal manager, and Atz Kilcher, an elementary school music teacher, folk singer and social worker. Her mother is of Irish descent and her father is of Swiss-German origin. She is the cousin of actress Q'Orianka Kilcher. She spent most of her young life in Homer, living with her father.[6] The home she grew up in did not have indoor plumbing; it had a simple outhouse instead. She and her father sometimes earned a living by singing in bars and taverns. It was from these experiences she learned to yodel, a quality demonstrated in many of her songs. Her father was a Mormon, but they stopped attending the church shortly before she turned eight.
Yule Kilcher, her grandfather, was a state senator involved in drafting Alaska's constitution for its admission to the Union in 1959.
Jewel learned to play the guitar while at the Interlochen Arts Academy in Interlochen, Michigan, where she majored in operatic voice. She started writing songs at the age of seventeen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_(singer)
soulja
08-02-2009, 07:15 PM
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German supermodel Claudia Schiffer has posed as a sex kitten for the front cover of German Vogue.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23701878-5013554,00.html
soulja
08-02-2009, 07:30 PM
http://www.ninjadude.com/images/Jessica-Biel/jessica-biel-cat-suit.jpg
http://www.ninjadude.com/index.php/jessica-biel-is-a-sex-kitten
niall
08-02-2009, 08:31 PM
i've read the thread. good stuff, it's just that i don't have anything to add really. btw, i don't think he is wasting his time, quite the opposite imo.
Thanks soulja.
Also thats some real interesting stuff about carters bloodline.
hunkahunka
09-02-2009, 02:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F23LNifx8M&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iIcRdi8Ar8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvcU-jsMnTQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCKJxD2InM
Mass Graves Of Children Found Near Montreal
Duplessis Children
Greg Szymanski - Arctic Beacon || April 14, 2006
Pierre Sampson, now 60, is calling for justice an an open investigation to stop the murder of innocent children in government sponsored child experimentation programs. More than 50,000 children said to be illegally experimented but crooked officials on both sides of the border blocking investigation.
Another Duplessis Orphan has come forward with horror stories, including electro shock therapy, straight jacket sessions and mind altering drugs injections after being subjected to illegal government experimentation programs as a young child.
Pierre Sampson, 60, of Vancouver, Canada endured the torturous treatment for six long years until at the age of 14 when he finally escaped.
But thousands of other Duplessis Orphans weren't as lucky, as investigators recently uncovered a mass grave outside of Montreal where the bones of hundreds of children are buried in a mass grave.
Called the "pigsty" since the grave site is located next to a hog farm, Rod Vienneau, whose wife was also a child victim, said a push is now underway to exhume the bodies with strong resistance from governments on both side of the border, both denying any involvement in the face of compelling evidence to the contrary.
"I have been researching this atrocity for more than 10 years since my wife went public about being abused as one of the orphans," said Rod Vienneau this week on Greg Szymanski's radio show, The Investigative Journal, regarding the Duplessis Orphans, who may number more than 50,000 and named after former Prime Minister Maurice Duplessis, a key figure in the child experimentation cover-up. Duplessis Children
"We have documentation proving the link among with the CIA, the United States government and the Canadian government, all of them willing accomplices to the illegal experimentation of children.
"Thousands of children have died, thousands of others have endured great suffering and there remains about 3,000 surviving victims we know about who are still seeking justice. What's even more astonishing is that the illegal experimentation is still taking place while we speak."
Sampson, who went public for the first time in the United States on The Investigative Journal, is one of tens of thousands of children who were reduced to experimental guinea pigs by unscrupulous doctors, some known Nazi war criminals in a CIA program starting in the 1950's
Recently, a Canadian high court in 2004 awarded damages to adult mind control victims in a related case, pinning the CIA with responsibility as well as their unscrupulous doctors, including Dr. Ewin Cameron.
For a further look at Dr. Cameron's nefarious activities, a book called The Most Dangerous Game traces the history of top-secret CIA mind control operation MK-ULTRA: from the covert importation of NAZI scientists at the end of WWII, to the illegal brainwashing experiments conducted on the patients of psychiatric researcher, Dr Cameron
The same type of testing Dr Cameron and others performed on adults is now being traced to innocent children, as advocates for the Duplessis Orphans contend their evil knows no age limits.
Regarding Sampson's personal story, he said at the age of six he was transferred from a Catholic orphanage to a mental institution even though he was both mentally and physically sound as church and civil authorities overnight changed his paperwork, indicating he was mentally ill.
"After researching what happened," said Sampson, who also appeared this week on The Investigative Journal. "The Church made a deal with the government to turn over perfectly healthy children in return for money, giving the doctors the ability to experiment at will since we were all considered insane.
"To this day my records haven't been changed. Although I have never been mentally ill, my records still haven't been changed."
The link Sampson makes between the infiltrated Catholic Church and corrupted civil authorities is disturbing, indicating a consolidation of corruption not only in government but extending all the way to Rome and beyond.
According to Vienneau and Sampson, this inhumane treatment was accomplished with the full authority, cooperation and funding of the American and Canadian governments together with corrupted elements of the Catholic Church, one of the government's main suppliers of children used like experimental guinea pigs.
"I hope one day we can get justice and remove this evil element of people from the continent," said Vienneau. "How can we live in a society and trust a government who is killing our own children? These people will never admit to what they done and the only thing we can do is gather enough support among good people to have these corrupted leaders removed."
Vienneau also outlined what his main motives are in seeking justice for his wife, Sampson and the many other children abused by the illegal experimentation programs. Duplessis Children
"Criminal acts: Horrific criminal acts were done to thousands of innocent children here on Canadian soil ranging from murders, tortures; disappearance of children; lobotomy's and experimental drugs and falsely labeling thousands of innocent young children from 1935 to 1975 and nobody has yet been held accountable for these free criminal acts done to the Duplessis orphans.
"Thousands of orphans were falsely labeled mentally ill, and today, this label still hangs heavy on the orphans shoulders, This label has not yet been erased, this alone is a criminal act.
"The Quebec government, the College of Physicians of Quebec; the Roman Catholic church of Quebec; the Quebec Public Trustee;(Guardianship) and the federal government of Canada and America have not yet acknowledged the harm done to thousands of young children here in Quebec.
"Constitutional Rights : The Quebec government took away the Duplessis orphans rights to defend themselves in a court of law since 1995, all though four members of parliament stated that the orphans could take a lawyer at any time for their case, but it has been 11 years now that many orphans have been trying to get a lawyer for their case but to no avail.
"Lawyer Daniel Lighter, told me flatly that the Duplessis orphans case is locked shut tight since over fifteen years. The Duplessis orphans have no Constitutional rights, it all boils down to a huge cover up."
Editor's Note: It's beyond the realm of human comprehension how newspaper owners in the mainstream lack the decency to mount an investigation for the memory of all the dead children and the many others who have suffered at the hands of corrupted politicians and church leaders.
By ignoring this story for more than five decades, major newspaper owners in the United States should be branded as co-conspirators along with the corrupted church leaders and politicians, who all march to the altar in lockstep every Sunday with the blood of the Duplessis Orphans dripping from their dirty hands.
Duplessis orphans want Montreal burial site dug up
Updated Sat. Jun. 19 2004 6:34 PM ET
CTV.ca News Staff
A group of surviving "Duplessis Orphans" wants the current Quebec government to unearth an abandoned cemetery, which they say contains the bodies of orphans who were victims of medical experiments years ago.
The Montreal east end site is now a warehouse for the liquor commission, but until 1958 it was a gravesite.
The group believes the cemetery may be the final resting site of orphans who were used in medical experiments at the Cite de St. Jean de Dieu insane asylum, now named Louis-Hyppolite Lafontaine Hospital. They want the bodies exhumed so autopsies can be done.
The Duplessis Orphans numbered about 20,000 children born to unwed mothers in 1940s and 50s, during the time of Quebec premier Marcel Duplessis' provincial reign.
The children were taken in by the church and even though they were normal, they were deemed mentally deficient, so the church could get hefty government grants for their care.
Now, some of the survivors would like to prove that some of them were victims of medical experiments such as lobotomies.
Paul St. Aubin, one of the so-called orphans, told CFCF News he received electroshock therapy and was lobotomized during his 18 years at Cite de St. Jean de Dieu.
And Sylvio Vincent, who lived at the same hospital, said it was his job to wash the bodies of those who died in the operating ward. He said many of the bodies he saw had holes in their heads.
In 1942, a law was passed that allowed the nuns to sell the orphans' unclaimed bodies to medical schools for $10. The selling of orphans' bodies continued into the 1960s.
In 2002, the province agreed to pay a settlement of about $25,000 to each of the surviving 1,100 orphans labeled as mentally deficient, but did not include any compensation for victims of sexual or other abuse.
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Montreal coat of arms
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L'hopital St. Jean de Dieu
Joseph Martin was 5 1/2 years old in 1938 when his parents, promised he would receive a good education, placed him in Montreal’s Buisonnet Institute. Shortly thereafter, he was transferred to St. Jean de Dieu, where he remained until 1956.
Upon his arrival at St. Jean de Dieu, Martin said, he and other young people were stripped of personal belongings, including jewelry, clothing, pictures of cherished relatives, money and identification.
Martin, today a Montreal cabinetmaker, readily recounts stories of abuse. He said that in 1941, he witnessed a 10-year-old boy beaten to death by two guards. Incredibly, said Martin, many of the guards hired to watch over the children were young criminals who had been in reform schools. And many guards — some of whom he named — allegedly sodomized the youths.
When Martin, after being assaulted repeatedly, complained to hospital authorities, he received the ultimate “warning.” The culprits drove a knife into his left eye, blinding him, and told him that if he complained again, he would also lose the right eye.
For years, according to Martin, three children each week were victims of operations during which vital organs such as hearts, lungs, kidneys and livers were cut out and sold in the U.S. A gray-and-black refrigerated vehicle transported the organs, he said.
Carol Rutz noted, “Their organs could be harvested and sold and no one would be the wiser. They were the expendables simply because they were available."
What remained of the bodies, said Martin, would be buried in cardboard boxes, three children per box, in what was known as the “pigsty” cemetery — so named because it was where pigs were kept, and where the remains of dead swine and other animals were also disposed of.
But not all children were buried. In the early 1950s at St. Jean de Dieu, Martin said, he saw hospital staff carrying the dead bodies of children as young as 5 to a large incinerator, where they were thrown in with the hospital’s garbage.
The youngest children, Martin charged, were kept out of sight in cells and cages at the back of St. Jean de Dieu under barbaric conditions — in straitjackets, heavily drugged and befouled by their own waste.
Powerlessness
Like other Orphans interviewed, Jean-Guy Labrosse has painful memories. One includes the feeling of utter powerlessness. While incarcerated at St. Michel Archange, for example, Labrosse said he was told by psychiatrist Jean-Yves Gosselin that he held all the cards to the fate of the children.
"Once you come in here, we are the ones who decide when you may be liberated," Gosselin allegedly told Labrosse.
When contacted by Freedom, Gosselin, who served as president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association in 1993, said he wouldn’t comment on Labrosse’s allegation. Currently practicing in Ottawa, Gosselin said he couldn’t remember whether he had treated Duplessis Orphans or not.
But he admitted that during his tenure as staff psychiatrist at St. Michel Archange from 1959 to 1963, he had placed a number of patients on farms. Of note, according to former Quebec Ombudsman Daniel Jacoby and reports received by Freedom, Orphans placed on farms were also victimized.
Beatings, Torture, Sodomy
Freedom contacted psychiatrist Denis Lazure for response to allegations by Joseph Martin and others regarding abuses at St. Jean de Dieu. In addition to interning at the institution in 1952, Lazure served as its director from 1974 to 1976. In 2000, he returned to the renamed facility, Louis-Hippolyte Lafontaine, as a practicing psychiatrist.
According to a statement provided on Lazure’s behalf by Jean Lepage, public relations director for Louis-Hippolyte Lafontaine, investigations into claims that Orphans had been severely harmed “were never proven and therefore considered unfounded.”
Lepage referred to a 1997 report by the then Quebec ombudsman, Daniel Jacoby, in which the Orphans’ complaints were documented.
Jacoby’s report, however, does not state that the Orphans’ statements of abuse were unfounded. He did indeed find evidence of such abuses as psychosurgery, electroshock, ice baths, beatings, straitjacketing, torture, sodomy and “unjustified confinement to a cell — sometimes for months or even years.”13
In fact, after the Quebec attorney general announced in February 1995 that no charges would be brought, Jacoby stated, “in almost all cases, the reasons invoked by the attorney general did nothing to deny the existence of the facts. Neither the statute of limitations nor the death of a suspect or complainant throw the alleged acts into question.”14
Rejecting Lazure’s response to Freedom as “a pack of lies,” Rod Vienneau pointed to the psychiatrist’s own memoirs for corroboration of abuses. “I believe Denis Lazure should be the first one to be brought to court” for crimes against innocent children, Vienneau said.
Specific allegations by Vienneau and others, most importantly, have never been investigated by authorities empowered to bring perpetrators to justice. With no proper investigation, Vienneau said, one cannot say claims are “unfounded,” particularly in the presence of eyewitnesses and other evidence.
“They Became Vegetables”
Experiments were not limited to any one institution such as St. Jean de Dieu. Neurosurgeon Guy LaMarche, for example, admitted that in the 1950s, each Wednesday, two or three lobotomies were performed on patients at St. Michel Archange, as prescribed by the institution’s head psychiatrist, even though “we had no idea” how the operations would affect the institution’s patients. “More often than not, they became vegetables,” LaMarche said.15
An official probe can determine how many of the victims may have been Orphans, said CCHR’s Denis Coté. “This dark chapter in Canada’s history needs to be aired for all to see in a series of hearings,” he said. “I believe it would be best for an independent public inquiry to examine this.”
In its own investigation, Freedom found what appears to be an ongoing campaign of deception and disinformation designed to derail any examination of criminal acts or other misconduct against the Orphans by psychiatrists and others, and to keep those crimes covered up.
Orphans seeking justice, for example, have reported threats and assaults. Joseph Martin said he was visited at his home by four men who refused to identify themselves but warned him to “shut up.” This occurred a few days after Freedom had contacted Louis-Hippolyte Lafontaine Hospital for comment regarding allegations by Martin and others.
As part of any official investigation, witnesses and their families must be safeguarded.
hunkahunka
09-02-2009, 03:40 PM
The Province
http://www.missingpeople.net/images/Forensic%20osteology.jpg
Forensic osteology students and RCMP sift through excavated soil in their search for human remains on the Pickton pig farm, set eerily amid tony subdivisions.
The Pickton family put down roots in Port Coquitlam in 1905 when William Pickton bought land near Essondale Mental Hospital.
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Essondale Mental Hospital
There, the family raised hogs until their land was expropriated for the Lougheed Highway.
Their new pig farm -- the now notorious one, splashed across TV screens around the world -- was purchased in 1963, when Leonard and Helen Louise Pickton put down $18,000 for the swampy, 40-acre lot.
The family moved into the ramshackle farmhouse on Dominion Road with teen sons David Francis and Robert William, widely known as Willie.
Vancouver Sun 3/18/03
“More than 90 per cent of mental patients sterilized by the B.C. government were women, says the lawyer representing 18 sterile former Essondale patients in a lawsuit.” “Between 1934 and 1949 104 mental patients were ordered sterilized - 92 women and 12 men. Between 1954 and 1972, 84 mental patients were ordered sterilized by the provincial Board of Eugenics.”
1904 To relieve overcrowding, 48 male patients are transferred to a small asylum in Vernon, and the BC government purchases 1,000 acres in rural Coquitlam as the site for a new mental hospital – the beginning of Essondale Hospital.
1905 Using mostly patient labour, housed on-site in temporary buildings, the Coquitlam site is cleared and diked, and Colony Farm is established to grow food for the hospital.
1909 Construction begins on the new hospital on the slopes above Colony Farm; the locale would become known as Essondale, in honour of Dr. Henry Esson Young, the cabinet minister who advocated the new hospital.
1912 Colony Farm gains a reputation as the best farm in Western Canada, employing the latest in farming techniques to produce over 700 tons of crops and 20,000 gallons of milk in a year.
1920 Two permanent dormitories are added to the growing complex at Colony Farm, providing 75 beds for patients working on the farm.
Essondale Psychiatric Hospital
A Disaster In Every Way
The Pickton family put down roots in Port Coquitlam in 1905 when William Pickton bought land near Essondale Mental Hospital. (Later renamed Riverview) There, the family raised hogs until their land was expropriated for the Lougheed Highway.
BC Mental Health Timeline
1904 To relieve overcrowding, 48 male patients are transferred to a small asylum in Vernon, and the BC government purchases 1,000 acres in rural Coquitlam as the site for a new mental hospital – the beginning of Riverview Hospital.1905 Using mostly patient labour, housed on-site in temporary buildings, the Coquitlam site is cleared and diked, and Colony Farm is established to grow food for the PHI.
The Pickton Family set down roots on an adjacent farm in 1905.
Riverview Horticultural Centre Society was founded in 1992. Its mission is to preserve and protect the Lands and Trees of the Riverview Hospital site as a community oriented, financially viable centre for horticultural, educational and therapeutic activities.
the Beginning: In 1904, 1000 acres of land at the junction of the Coquitlam and Fraser Rivers were set aside for a Psychiatric Hospital and Botanical Garden for BC. Since 1913 a hospital has operated on the site and in its heyday during the 1950’s, Essondale (as it was then called), was a self-sufficient community with 4300 patients cared for by 2000 staff. The Riverview Lands today comprise the remaining 244 acres of the original parcel that once included the present Colony Farm, Riverview Forest, and the Riverview Heights subdivision.
Tunnels
From Wraiths Website (Tunnel Explorers)
History: The West Lawn building opened on April 1, 1913, accommodating 300 patients, the first of six large buildings constructed on the Riverview site. Others slowly followed.
In its early years, the Hospital was alone in the countryside with no development around it, not even a highway – just the railroad with a whistle-stop called “Essondale”.
Riverview Hospital : Tunnels I Page I Page II
History: As in Riverview I. There are tunnels beneath the buildings, but are in more than one segment, so they do not all connect with one another…
Unmarked graves
There is/ was a cemetery serving the hospital. I am looking for more information on its history, I believe it may have been called Woodlawn? -Hazel.
Rootsweb
It should be mentioned there is a fairly good sized cemetery there wherein many of the folks who were patients, found their final resting place.
Almost 3,000 people who died in government care and were unclaimed were buried at Woodlands between 1926 and 1957. In 1977, a Social Credit cabinet order-in-council resulted in the people’s headstones-about 1,800 of them-being pulled up and the area grassed over and redesignated as a park. McCallum discovered that some of the headstones were used to construct a staff barbecue patio and stairs. After 1958, unclaimed bodies were sent to UBC as cadavers.
Child Torture - Class Action Suit
on behalf of all persons who were previously confined to Woodlands and who suffered abuse including, but not limited to, physical, sexual, emotional and psychological abuse and/or who failed to receive a proper education while being confined to Woodlands.
Poyner Baxter LLP Class Action Suit
March 18, 2005
In a judgment released March 17, Madam Justice Nancy Morrison of the British Columbia Supreme Court has certified a class action suit brought against the government of British Columbia on behalf of an estimated 1,500 former residents of Woodlands School, most of whom are severely handicapped.
It is a significant milepost in a long journey. Poyner Baxter filed the class action in 2002.
January 23, 2003
Poyner Baxter commenced an action against Her Majesty the Queen in Right of the Province of British Columbia on August 2nd, 2002. This action is brought on the Plaintiff’s behalf and on behalf of all persons who were previously confined to Woodlands and who suffered abuse including, but not limited to, physical, sexual, emotional and psychological abuse and/or who failed to receive a proper education while being confined to Woodlands.
A Case Management Conference is proceeding on January 24th, 2003, before Madam Justice Morrison.
To review the Statement of Claim that was filed, please click on the link below:
Statement of Claim
Other Class Action Suits
Filming
Today the facility is used by the film industry. (Accomodation & Real Estate Services) ARES manages the facilities special uses and events.
ARES manages, on behalf of the Province, a diverse real estate portfolio of leased and government owned properties that extend throughout the province. At March 31, 2006 the portfolio included 17 million square feet (1.6 million square metres) of space. It includes a wide variety of types of properties/facilities, ranging from the Vancouver Law Courts and Robson Square Complex to heritage buildings dating from the 1860s, and includes: office buildings, residential institutions, courthouses, correctional centres and other types of special purpose facilities (e.g., forestry complexes, ambulance stations, health units, highways facilities).
“Supernatural” a modern day Hardy Boys scare ‘em adventure loves the deeply weathered look for many of their sets. Production Designer Jerry Wanek who also designed the sets of “Dark Angel” excels at this.
Here are just a few of many photos to come from this series. A lobby in one of the buildings of the infamous Riverview Mental Hospital has been converted to a ghetto squat for some troublesome characters.
hunkahunka
09-02-2009, 05:03 PM
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDpOCpVJ0N4
Mini-documentary: In the mid-20th century, under the regime of Quebec Premier Maurice Duplessis, tens of thousands of disadvantaged children were transferred from orphanages into asylums in a corrupt ploy to divert funding into psychiatric coffers. Many simply vanished. Today, a small band of survivors and their families seek answers — and justice. Read the full story here
http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol37I1/page03.htm
Clarina Duguay remembers what life was like before her mother, Clara, moved away. The eldest daughter among five children, she recalls the happy life of a family, cash-poor but rich in love, in Cap d’Espoir, a fishing village on Canada’s Gaspe peninsula.
Every morning, with her dog, Coffee, she helped her mother gather up the eight or nine cows the family owned so they could be milked. From her mother, she learned many things, including how to bake delicious bread — a skill that today, more than 60 years later, she still enjoys.
In a rural community where horses were the primary means of transportation, Clara encouraged Clarina’s dream of one day becoming an airline stewardess. It was a close-knit family, one where each member supported the others.
The idyllic life ended in 1945, when Clara, stricken by tuberculosis, moved to a sanatorium.
Clarina’s father, Joseph Duguay, a lumberjack frequently away from home, was persuaded by the family doctor and the parish priest to send Clarina and her younger sister, Simonne, to an orphanage in Rimouski, on the St. Lawrence River. He was told they would be well educated.
But in 1946, shortly after Clarina turned 11, she and perhaps 10 other children from the facility were loaded onto a bus. Told they were being taken on a tour of Rimouski, they were instead driven to the town of St. Ferdinand, hundreds of miles away, and through the gates of the St. Julien psychiatric institution. There, Clarina’s horror story began.
Fraudulent Psychiatric Labels
Many years later, Clarina would learn of the false psychiatric label — “mentally retarded” — that condemned her to St. Julien.
But at the time, she inexplicably entered a hell where she scrubbed floors endlessly on orders from the institution’s staff.
“They would plunge our heads into ice-cold water if we did something wrong,” Clarina said, adding that they would be kept immersed almost to the point of drowning. To this day, she dreads water and fears she will drown.
For the tiniest infraction, she could be forced to kneel in an excruciating position for hours, or put in a straitjacket, or locked to a bed with no mattress — her feet tied to the cold steel frame and her head pinned down by a dog collar around her neck. She reported being sexually assaulted.
Simonne later joined her at St. Julien, also unknowingly labeled retarded. With both girls, their father was not informed of their fate. Letter writing was forbidden at Rimouski and St. Julien; compounding that barrier, the girls’ father could neither read nor write. Presuming no news was good news, he trusted his daughters were being properly cared for.
And when Clarina cried for her mother, a staff member told her that Clara had died of syphilis in another psychiatric institution. In truth, she succumbed to tuberculosis at the sanitarium, unaware of her daughters’ plight.
But then it got worse. Clarina remembers the chlorpromazine she and others at St. Julien were forced to take, an experimental drug at the time*, but one so powerful its principal pioneer and promoter, German-born psychiatrist Heinz Lehmann, would later dub it a “pharmacological substitute for lobotomy.”1
“It made me into a zombie,” Clarina said. The drug, known as Largactil in Canada and Thorazine in the United States, was administered by injection and by pills, virtually every day. She was told it was “cold medicine".
* Chlorpromazine was not approved for use in the United States by the Food and Drug Administration until 1954
Hidden Terrors
Robbed of their childhoods and their educations, Clarina and Simonne are two among perhaps 3,000 surviving “Duplessis Orphans.”
Naming themselves after former Quebec Premier Maurice Duplessis*, many of these individuals, like Clarina and Simonne, were in fact not orphans at all, but had been born to poor families that had difficulty caring for them, or to unwed mothers. Although no official tallies were kept, over a span of several decades, it has been estimated they numbered in the tens of thousands and perhaps as many as 100,000.
As bad as things were, Clarina and Simonne consider themselves luckier than most of the Orphans — Simonne managed to escape after several years and, when her family learned of the sisters’ ordeal, they freed Clarina on May 8, 1953.
Like many of those who suffered, Clarina chose not to talk about her experiences, preferring to put the past behind her. She went to work as a seamstress in Montreal, abandoning her plans of working for an airline and seeing the world, but grateful to once again enjoy freedom.
In 1965, she met Rod Vienneau, a singer and songwriter who also worked as a construction worker and miner. They married in May the next year. For decades, she kept her terrors at St. Julien a secret from her children and her husband.
Only after the truth about the Duplessis Orphans began to emerge in the 1990s did Clarina share her story with her husband and, ultimately, with Freedom.
Child Victims:
Their World Turned Upside Down
Today, Rod Vienneau, as founder of the Commission for Victims of Crimes Against Humanity, represents survivors who seek to expose and bring to account the psychiatrists and government officials responsible for alleged crimes and abuses against the Orphans.
Since 1992, when he obtained Clarina’s medical files under Canada’s Access to Information Act, he has investigated abuses against the Orphans, also leading protest marches, letter-writing campaigns and other activities to draw attention to injustices at many similar facilities — such as Mont Providence in Montreal, converted from an orphanage and school to a psychiatric hospital in one day.
At that institution, since renamed Riviere des Prairies Psychiatric Hospital, Vienneau said, “Overnight, they emptied the classrooms, got rid of the books, and put bars on the windows. They turned the rooms into cells.”
The morning the children’s nightmare began at Mont Providence, the nuns, instead of wearing their familiar black-and-white habits, dressed in white — a stark sign of conversion to a psychiatric hospital.
“The children had a life before,” said Vienneau. “There was schooling. They could play. All of that changed. It was hard labor. No more learning.”
At psychiatric facilities throughout Quebec, he said, “They used the Orphans for the dirty work.”
Normal boys and girls in the child welfare system were degraded and dehumanized, he said, coerced via pain and punishment into becoming a slave-labor force in the province’s mental institutions. Instead of learning to read and write, they swabbed floors and hallways, cleaned the clothes of adult inmates, washed adults incapacitated by drugs, shocks and lobotomies, and served in other menial, often backbreaking capacities — all for the profit of their psychiatric overlords.
Stigmatized
As with Clarina and Simonne, relatives who placed children in Quebec orphanages customarily had been promised they would receive a "good education” if turned over to the institutions.
Instead, for decades, psychiatrists falsely declared thousands of them to be mentally ill or retarded. The children were moved to psychiatric asylums or, as at Mont Providence, facilities were converted to mental institutions. The psychiatric labels enabled institutions to obtain “nearly twice the amount per child, and sometimes more, depending on how children were classified and where they were placed.”2
Although their poor performance on I.Q. tests stemmed from a lack of schooling, normal children were stigmatized with such psychiatric tags as “idiot” and “imbecile” — false labels that destroyed their lives and haunt survivors to this day.
Evidence unearthed by Freedom in its ongoing investigation, which began in 1999, points to the Duplessis Orphans as the largest instance of institutionalized child abuse in North America.
The death or disappearance of many children and young adults — Vienneau charged that 50,000 innocents were thus victimized — drives human rights advocates to demand a thorough investigation, particularly of psychiatrists and others who benefited from the mass tragedy.
False Label Brings
25 Years’ Incarceration
To date, no criminal court or human rights body has examined the alleged atrocities. Because of the lack of a probe, no psychiatrist engaged in or connected to alleged crimes against the Orphans — including experiments with brain-damaging drugs, electric shocks and lobotomies — has been charged, despite evidence of duplicity, misconduct and harm.
On June 22, 1967, for example, psychiatrist Louis Roy examined Duplessis Orphan Joseph Sylvestre as an outpatient at St. Michel Archange, a psychiatric institution in Quebec City since renamed Robert Giffard Hospital. After the examination, Roy failed to change Sylvestre’s earlier, false childhood diagnosis.
Years later, in 1991, Sylvestre approached Roy for assistance in finding a job and subsequently received a letter from Roy in which the psychiatrist admitted that Sylvestre had never been mentally ill.
“You were never mentally ill and you are fit,” Roy reportedly said.
The scandal was reported by the Journal de Montreal in 1992. When contacted at his office by the Journal, Roy confirmed the facts concerning Sylvestre — “my good friend JS,” as Roy called him.3
As early as 1962, a Quebec government body known as the Bedard Commission acknowledged that the Orphans had never been mentally ill or retarded and that they had been fraudulently labeled.
Despite this, Roy was never charged with wrongful diagnosis or any other crime, even after admitting in writing that Sylvestre had wrongfully spent 25 years confined to the psychiatric institution where Roy was the director.
Roy, now 75 and retired, admitted to Freedom that he had misdiagnosed Sylvestre, offering as excuses that Sylvestre had already been a patient when he took over his case and that things were “different” back then.
Roy said that no disciplinary action had been taken against him because Sylvestre had “only” received psychiatric drugs, not a lobotomy or electroshock. He refused to comment on whether there should be a public inquiry into the case of the Duplessis Orphans, but admitted he saw many abuses when working at St. Michel Archange. Due to his advanced years, he said, he wants to forget the past.
“He may want to forget it, but Roy and other psychiatrists created evil and destruction, and victims live the nightmare to this day,” said Denis Coté, a spokesperson for the Citizens Commission on Human Rights** in Quebec. “Psychiatry sentenced these Orphans to degradation, misery and, in many cases, death. After the lid started to come off, psychiatrists engaged in damage control to protect their own incomes and reputations. They played no part in helping the survivors.”
* Duplessis was Quebec’s premier from 1936 to 1939 and from 1944 to 1959. Due to human rights violations, electoral fraud, use of state powers against critics and other abuses, Duplessis’ tenure has been called “the Great Darkness.”
Human Guinea Pigs
Another psychiatrist in the saga is Denis Lazure, president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association in 1966.
From 1999 to 2001, Lazure headed the “Support Committee for Justice for the Duplessis Orphans” — an effort that, according to Rod Vienneau, betrayed those it pretended to help. Vienneau compared Lazure’s position on the committee to “a fox in the chicken coop.”
In his memoirs, Medecin et Citoyen, published in 2002, Lazure wrote that in 1952, while interning at Hospice St. Jean de Dieu, a massive psychiatric facility in Montreal since renamed Louis-Hippolyte Lafontaine Hospital, he and five other interns regularly administered electroshock and routinely put patients into insulin comas.4
Lazure breezily described how he would “start the day pushing the button on the electrical box that sends a current to provoke an epileptic-type convulsion in tens of patients who hadn’t received any preparatory medication.”5
Then he was off to the insulin coma rooms, “half-lit, vile-smelling, with two dozen patients that we’d inject with doses of insulin strong enough to induce a coma. After several hours of excessive sedation, they’d receive a glucose injection, which usually brought them back to consciousness. It sometimes happened that we got the shock of a patient that failed to reawaken.”6
Lazure painted a disturbing picture of St. Jean de Dieu, one in which psychiatrists played with and destroyed human life. Later in 1952, Lazure left the institution for Verdun Protestant (now Douglas) Hospital, where he assisted chemical lobotomy pioneer Lehmann in tests of chlorpromazine.7
Montreal journalist Kristian Gravenor quipped, “Lazure went on to head hospitals and run the provincial health ministry, fried brains and accidental overdoses not slowing him down one bit.”8
Lazure’s statement that he and Lehmann tested chlorpromazine in 1952 lends credence to claims by Clarina Duguay and others of being forced to take the drug prior to 1953 — the year Lehmann supposedly “discovered” how to use it to straitjacket patients — and raises questions regarding how many Orphans may have been exploited as human guinea pigs.
One St. Jean de Dieu doctor who asked not to be identified estimated that chlorpromazine was being administered to 500 people at St. Jean de Dieu in 1952 — even though the drug received its first approval for human use in Canada in 1957, according to Health Canada, the government agency over such matters.9
Psychiatry Destroys Life
Children’s advocate Carol Rutz, author of A Nation Betrayed, told Freedom that based on her research, the Duplessis Orphans became prime subjects for psychiatric testing and abuse.
These children, she said, were defenseless — easy prey for ruthless doctors who inflicted pain and death under the guise of science.
Many boys and girls, she said, “had no parents to return home to, hence the extent of their abuse needed no cover-up. Who would tell? They could be beaten or drugged into submission.”
Orphans at St. Jean de Dieu were selected to receive electroshock, drugs and other “treatments” primarily based on whether or not they had immediate family members who might come to their defense or protection, said one source who worked at the facility.
Rod Vienneau said Quebec psychiatrists viewed these children, who most often came from the province’s poorest families, as “unwanted.” They emptied Quebec’s orphanages, he said, “sending the ‘unwanted’ children to the psychiatric hospitals where psychiatrists could do any experiment that they wanted to do on 100,000 children — and no one would know.” (See “He Had No Brain!”.)
Evidence suggests that many boys and girls became victims of a psychiatric eugenics* program with connections to prominent members of the U.S. and Canadian psychiatric establishments.
“Defectives” was the sweeping label that Canadian psychiatrist Charles Kirk Clarke, a founder of the Canadian Mental Health Association, applied to immigrants from eastern and central Europe.10 Another Canadian eugenicist, Helen MacMurchy, a provincial “inspector of the feeble-minded,” campaigned for sterilization to prevent certain mothers from “filling the cradle with degenerate babies.”11
Freedom addressed this subject in a 1996 cover report in its Canadian edition entitled “The Ethnic Cleansing of the ‘Mentally Unfit’ — Sterilization in Canada.” The authors wrote, “The tools of the eugenicists thus became immigration controls, birth control, sterilization and finally euthanasia as carried out by the Nazis,” noting that the first three methods had been employed in Canada — resulting in, among other things, the involuntary sterilization of thousands of women, many of them Canadian Indian or other minorities.12
With fresh allegations now surfacing that many Duplessis Orphans died or disappeared, the fourth item on the eugenicists’ agenda, euthanasia, certainly warrants official investigation.
“They Were Allowed
to Kill Defenseless Children”
Indeed, the bodies of hundreds or even thousands of Duplessis Orphans, buried near Quebec psychiatric hospitals, may today hold the key to documenting what survivors have called "organized psychiatric genocide."
Montreal attorney Daniel Lighter suggested that Quebec officials permit exhumation of bodies buried on hospital grounds to determine to what extent Orphans may have been used for psychiatric experimentation, including lobotomies, electroshock and mass drugging.
"One can certainly argue that a free society has a responsibility to unearth the good, the bad and the indifferent of its past,” Lighter told Freedom. “There is certainly a compelling amount of evidence, even outside of a courtroom, to justify looking again at this case.”
At every step of the way, the Orphans’ treatment was guided by the hand of psychiatry. Documents obtained by Freedom reveal connections between the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and Quebec psychiatric facilities where Orphans were incarcerated. As far back as 1922, photographs and other evidence show a relationship between these facilities and the APA.
In 1954, for example, the APA recognized Montreal’s Verdun Protestant (now Douglas) Hospital for “notable achievements” in research. Freedom asked APA spokesperson Jason Young what this research entailed, but as of press time, had not received an answer.
The APA imprimatur raises questions as to who benefited from the Orphans’ false internment and why, said Lighter.
"It’s a very strange link to have the APA accrediting hospitals in Quebec. Why would that be?” he asked. “It suggests that the APA was not only intimately involved but that they were coordinating the experiments. It certainly begs questions and those questions deserve answers."
A documentary that aired in September 2004 on Quebec television station TQS reported there had been roughly 300,000 children in total; 200,000 of those were adopted, while 100,000 were held in orphanages, ready for adoption but never taken. These, reporter Gary Arpin implied, were the Duplessis Orphans.
One Orphan, Jean-Guy Labrosse, 66, today a retired construction worker, authored a 1964 book about his years in Quebec institutions, My Dog’s Life, which helped to bring abuses to light. "How many of my fellow [Orphans] have died, and have gone missing?” he asked in an interview with Freedom. “And when I say missing, I mean missing without a trace. In Quebec, they were allowed to kill defenseless children.”
Rod Vienneau estimates that at least half of the Orphans incarcerated in psychiatric hospitals died or disappeared in those institutions. “If somebody disappeared, it’s because somebody got rid of the person,” he said. “They were killed or murdered.”
* British psychologist Francis Galton coined “eugenics” from the Greek eugenes, meaning “good in stock” or “well-born.” Galton’s theories on eugenics were, in turn, forwarded by psychologists and psychiatrists. In Germany, for example, Galton’s work was used by psychiatrist Ernst Rudin and others to provide the impetus for racial hygiene and genocide programs.
“I Do Not Know the Doctors
Who Gave This False Diagnosis”
In 1999, Quebec Ombudsman Daniel Jacoby criticized the Quebec government’s “ongoing conspiracy of silence” and labeled its settlement offer to the Duplessis Orphans “unfair and humiliating.”22
After comparing settlements in similar cases in other Canadian jurisdictions, Jacoby suggested a compensation package equal to $56 million in U.S. currency — roughly $700 per patient for each year he or she spent in an institution as a result of a wrongful diagnosis, with an additional indemnity for physical or sexual abuse.
“The social context of the time cannot justify their internment in asylums for reasons more financial than medical, just as it cannot justify physical and sexual abuse,” wrote Jacoby. “Today’s society has a duty to officially recognize the harm done. Official apologies on the part of the government [and] the medical establishment...would undoubtedly be a good place to start.”23
On September 26, 2001, the Quebec government approved a settlement of $10,000 (Canadian) person, plus $1,000 per year of wrongful incarceration in mental institutions. No provisions were made for sexual or other abuse. If an Orphan refused to sign the agreement, he or she forfeited the right to the compensation.
Many Orphans were arbitrarily considered ineligible and hence received nothing. In an interview with Freedom, Rod Vienneau pointed to Paul St. Aubin as an example of those unjustly barred from the settlement.
Deprived of an education, St. Aubin, now 53, worked between the ages of 11 and 17 as a virtual slave on a Quebec farm. He then spent 18 years in the province’s mental institutions, where he received chlorpromazine, electric shock and at least two lobotomies.
Vienneau and others consider the 2001 settlement as nothing more than a means to block any genuine probe into crimes and misconduct. The settlement itself remains a subject of Freedom’s investigation.
In the late 1990s, a group of Orphans commissioned a study by Professor Leo-Paul Lauzon of the University of Quebec in Montreal. Lauzon found that certain institutions earned between $70 million and $100 million (Canadian) by fraudulently holding the Orphans.
That figure is supported by a letter from Maurice Duplessis himself, dated April 12, 1954, in which the Quebec premier agreed to pay one psychiatric facility alone, Mont Providence, $6 million over a three-year period. At least 13 institutions housed the Duplessis Orphans for several decades.
$100 million, of course, would be worth far more in today’s currency values.
next “He Had No Brain!”
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“He Had No Brain!”
How extensive might the experimentation in Quebec foster care facilities have been? The case of a 63-year-old retired racehorse trainer, Sylvio Albert Day, provides insight.
Orphaned at birth, Day worked at hard labor outdoors as a teen, often under brutally cold conditions, and then toiled for years inside psychiatric institutions — a normal young man compelled to work in a savage world where, every day, the threat of straitjackets, injections with brain-damaging drugs, and even lobotomies loomed.
Day described one three-month period when he transported the bodies of 67 dead Orphans — boys and girls, young men and women — from operating and electric shock rooms at a Montreal institution to the basement. There, he washed the bodies — some as young as 5 — in preparation for sale to local universities.
St. Jean de Dieu was the site, but it could have been any of two dozen or more Quebec institutions where such abuses are reported to have occurred.
Day told Freedom he witnessed the deadly effects of restraints, beatings, electroshock and lobotomies. He observed children and youths exploited as slave labor, the routine, massive use of mind-ravaging drugs and, quite possibly, the aftermath of experimental brain operations.
One day, for example, he was asked to remove a dead youth from an operating room. He transported the body to the morgue and took off the hospital robe, socks and cap.
"That’s when I jumped!” he said. “He was lying there on the sink and when I took off his cap, he had no brain! I could see the hole.”
Day washed the body as instructed and, a short while later, was summoned again to the operating room. Another Orphan lay dead.
This person had large holes drilled into his head.
Shaken, he was summoned yet again — this time to a cell where an Orphan had hung himself.
Day said that cadavers were sent from St. Jean de Dieu to the University of Montreal and McGill University, where body parts were removed. He was informed about the disposition of the bodies by a local embalmer, who warned him not to speak about their horrible condition.
The man made it clear, Day said, that “if I talked, I would have serious problems. And that’s why I stayed quiet.”
No ceremonies marked the deaths, with many children reportedly interred on the St. Jean de Dieu grounds in the pigsty cemetery described by Joseph Martin.
Day confirmed that the Orphans were placed in cardboard boxes and, in his words, "buried like dogs” in unmarked graves, one atop another.
Punished with Drugs
Day recalled complaining to a St. Jean de Dieu psychiatrist about working in the morgue, known among Orphans as "Dead People’s Hall." The psychiatrist threatened Day with serious repercussions if he did not return to his grisly assignment.
Threatened with “pills strong enough to put down a horse” and confinement “in a secret operating cell” where he would be subjected to “one week of treatments,” Day complied.
All told, Day said, he saw eight Orphans “with their heads cut wide open.” Troubled about what he perceived as experimental brain operations, Day approached St. Jean de Dieu’s Camille Laurin, an influential psychiatrist who later became a Quebec cabinet minister.
When Day complained to Laurin about the brain operations, the psychiatrist allegedly punished him by administering a powerful drug that rendered him senseless. Day said that he “fell unconscious and slept like a vegetable."
He believes the drug was chlorpromazine.
For years, Rod Vienneau has asked, "Who is being protected?"
Vienneau suspects that the Roman Catholic Church, vilified as being responsible because it owned St. Jean de Dieu and certain other facilities, was itself exploited by psychiatrists who fattened off money from pharmaceutical companies, intelligence agencies and the Canadian national government. (See “The ‘Chemical Lobotomy.’”)
In the early 1950s, Canada’s national government withdrew funding from the education field while remaining active in health matters. It considered Mont Providence, for example, run by the Sisters of Charity of Providence, to be an educational facility and therefore ineligible for funding.
The Quebec government under Duplessis, however, felt that as a re-education and rehabilitation center, Mont Providence should be considered a health care facility. Although Mont Providence was affiliated with St. Jean de Dieu, Ottawa held its ground. The Quebec government subsequently advised the Sisters of Charity to change the facility’s vocation to benefit from federal funding.
A $3 million agreement was signed in 1954 that converted the school to a psychiatric hospital, jettisoning its main purpose of educating and helping children.16
In a written response to Freedom regarding charges of abuse at Mont Providence, hospital spokesperson Johanne Gagnon readily admitted that the Orphans had been falsely labeled.
“The Sisters of Providence were in charge of the educational development of these Orphans,” Gagnon wrote. “They even continued their teachings after the Duplessis government delegated funds to this establishment, and ordered that no education was given to these children for they were ‘mentally crazy’ (that was the expression used at the time, referring to those with intellectual deficiency). Mont Providence, just like many centers, accepted that such labels be given to the young Orphans. I do not know the doctors who gave this false diagnosis.”
“Concentration Camps...
Right in Our Back Yard”
Vienneau believes many innocent boys and girls came to be used as human guinea pigs after government officials in Canada and the U.S. were co-opted by psychiatric interests.
As one index of the dominant psychiatric influence, more than $50 million was spent constructing new psychiatric hospitals in Quebec between 1952 and 1962. “None of these building investments went toward enhancing the quality of service and care,” Quebec Ombudsman Jacoby noted.17 Meanwhile, the children they housed suffered under barbaric conditions.
Falsification of records, lies to families and horrific experiments bear similarities to Nazi psychiatric programs for ridding society of “undesirables,” Vienneau said. In this case, the “unwanteds” were normal children born out of wedlock, or whose families could not afford them, or who thought their children would be better taken care of when turned over to the institutions.
Vienneau is not alone in drawing parallels between the Quebec institutions and those in Nazi Germany. Concurrent with the abuses against the Orphans in the 1950s and 1960s, Montreal’s McGill University was the site of Ewen Cameron’s ghastly work. (See “‘Mind Control’ Experimentation Exposed.”)
Cameron, infamous for barbarity and a penchant for operating without patient consent, maimed men and women with electroshock, lobotomies and drugs that included chlorpromazine and LSD. An international leading light of psychiatry, Cameron served as president of the Quebec Psychiatric Association, the Canadian Psychiatric Association, the American Psychiatric Association and the World Psychiatric Association.
In a 1986 review of the experiments Cameron conducted at McGill’s Allan Memorial Institute, Canadian physician George Cooper drew the same conclusion as Vienneau.
“We talk about concentration camps. I don’t want to make this comparison, but God, you know, talk about ’we didn’t know it was happening,’ and it was — right in our back yard," wrote Cooper.18
Some of Cameron’s victims were compensated by the U.S. Justice Department in 1988 with an out-of-court settlement totaling $750,000; in November 1992, the Canadian government announced it would give $100,000 apiece to victims of his experiments.
According to one source, some Duplessis Orphans may have been “treated” at Cameron’s Allan Memorial Institute, a possibility Freedom is investigating.
Dreading a Doctor Visit
“While many would prefer not to believe stories of horrific abuse, if they are not believed, then injustice continues and similar abuses will be repeated,” said author Carol Rutz.
Today, surviving Orphans carry false labels of mental illness in their medical records despite decades of attempts to have them removed — a stigma that continues to haunt them. Clarina Duguay and others, for example, dread a simple trip to the doctor for any health problem. The threat of being locked up again looms over their lives — a living nightmare as long as the labels exist.
“All of the Orphans who can no longer speak for themselves, who died a tragic death or were lobotomized deserve to have the truth told,” said Rutz. “It takes a lot of courage to look at the truth and not turn your head away because it is too painful.”
Lawyer Lighter echoed Rutz by calling for justice. "There needs to be a public inquiry once and for all,” he said. “That is the only way there is to unearth the history of what happened and the role everyone played."
A longtime member of the Quebec Parliament, Louise Harel, is among those who have sought justice for the Orphans. On June 6, 2005, she became leader of the official opposition in Quebec’s National Assembly.
Harel told Freedom that the false labels should be removed and also expressed concern regarding the large number of lobotomies that had been performed in Quebec.
After the interview with Freedom, and following her receipt of detailed information from Rod Vienneau, Harel wrote on the Orphans’ behalf to Michelle Courschesne, Quebec’s minister of Employment and Social Programs. In her letter, she mentioned the hardship endured by the Orphans and encouraged Courschesne to contact Vienneau.
For Vienneau and others, the injustices suffered by innocent children stand as a powerful reminder and a mandate to keep fighting for those who perished and those who can no longer fight for themselves.
"When will the Orphans truly be free?” Vienneau asked. “Hopefully, before they all die. But as long as they carry this psychiatric label of mental illness on their shoulders, they will never be free. Even today, the Orphans live in the era of Great Darkness. We want justice and we want the truth, finally, to be told.”
“Mind control”
experimentation exposed
After psychiatrist Ewen Cameron’s destructive activities — vicious brain-damaging experimentation on unsuspecting patients — were exposed and condemned in U.S. Congressional hearings in the 1970s, the psychiatric industry promoted the notion that he had acted alone. Investigation by Freedom, however, proved this to be false. Indeed, other psychiatrists, including William Sargant of the United Kingdom, while publicly decrying Cameron’s work, were secretly performing similar tests.24
Colin Ross, M.D., an authority on mind control experiments and author of such books as Bluebird: Deliberate Creation of Multiple Personality Disorder by Psychiatrists, pointed out that Cameron and Sargant were two of the four founders of the World Psychiatric Association.
Ross told Freedom that psychiatrists carried out a deliberate campaign of deception in Cameron’s wake to limit the damage to psychiatry’s reputation. The disinformation, he said, conveyed that Ewen Cameron and his brutal work had been “just an isolated incident, that it happened a long time ago back in the ’50s, and that there were different ethical standards back then.”
But Ross noted that while Cameron’s research “completely violated the ethical standards of the time,” his experiments were far from isolated from his fellow psychiatrists.
And although books, documentaries and films such as “The Manchurian Candidate” have exposed the exploitation of adults in mind control, and the victims of his well-publicized intelligence agency-funded experimentation were compensated by the Canadian federal government, little has been communicated about the use of such coercive methods on children, as with the Duplessis Orphans.
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hunkahunka
09-02-2009, 05:16 PM
http://i1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/176/019/87/o_If_I_Only_Had_A_Brain.jpg
healthy orphans, many of them babies, classified as retarded, and sent to mental institutions to
work on farms, some murdered for their organs, some subjected to horrific mind control traumas:
ie: seeing their friends killed , brains and hearts extracted, then burned and/or fed to pigs.
Dorothy falls into the pig-sty (near-death trauma horror) , enters imaginary world where she is united with a friend with no brain, and a friend with no heart (after-life):
friends seeking to return from death: ie: recover brains, hearts etc.
brainless friend is almost burned by witch
the only way to return from Oz (death) is to 'follow the road' (programming)
soulja
09-02-2009, 07:01 PM
Vermont State Hospital Implicated in CIA Mind Control Experiments
http://www.americantorture.com/2008/12/vermont-state-hospital-implicated-in.html
Sexual Abuse and Mind Control at Napa State Hospital
http://www.illuminati-news.com/wayne-morin-jr.htm
hunkahunka
10-02-2009, 01:54 AM
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Sexual Abuse and Mind Control at Napa State Hospital
http://www.illuminati-news.com/wayne-morin-jr.htm
Soulja, I have found audio interviews of Wayne Morin Jr.
here:
http://www.illuminati-news.com/waynemorintapes.htm
(the sound quality is not the best in all of them)
some of the better quality ones:
http://www.illuminati-news.com/Audio/wayne-morin-jr/x-zone053106/x-zone053106.mp3
http://www.illuminati-news.com/Audio/wayne-morin-jr/NWO-1-21-06.mp3
http://www.illuminati-news.com/Audio/wayne-morin-jr/020606-Pastor-Jack-Radio/020606-pastor-jack-radio.mp3
On Wayne Morin:
His first admission at Napa State Hospital was when he was 12 years old, in 1971. He has had 115 admissions at Napa State Hospital (NSH) since that time, but all were civil commitments. He explains that his mother, brother, and sister have all sat around and used marijuana together with his psyche-tech on a weekend pass. While still accommodated at NSH, at the ages of 13-16, he was taken to his psyche-tech's home in Fairfield, where he used marijuana and Dexedrine, all on weekend passes. There was another time at NSH when a psyche-tech "fell in love" with him and they had sex, and he was given Ritalin in injection form.
The Napa Sentinel, a local newspaper, has full knowledge of NSH past and up-to-date rampant sex abuses and drug use. There was a time in the 1980's when most of all the psyche staff at NSH used marijuana and smoked it with the clients there, according to Wayne. This was during the height of "America's Drug War", and when a person could use drug (ab)use as a mental illness and furthermore get paid by SSI for being mentally ill, at $700.00 a month.
During Wayne's 115 admissions as NSH he never had one single felony charge. His instant offense was committed in 1987, and he was sentenced only for three years. However, the State never wanted him released on "outpatient treatment". Why was that? Wayne explains:
The Manor of Napa State Hospital"Just look at their jobs being on the line, and how the psychiatric staff know that the statutes of limitations never run out on murders and rape, which have occurred in this hospital. Knowledge is Power, they know this, so by keeping me inside the fence they maintain their immunity from outside investigation. It is a known fact that mental health staff as NSH use Gestapo-type tactics and invent symptoms without evidence in order to delay the discharge of patients(1).These doctors with Master's degrees can also be negligent and accessories to murders and other crimes, who do whatever it takes to cover up both intentional and unintentional mistakes, as if, in the old lunatic days of torture and mysterious deaths in the state hospitals seem to be protected from the law. The same people on patient's treatment team punish them for any disagreement, trying to defend themselves, and particularly frown on any complaint to Patient's Rights, if not a reason for retaliation due to their power and illusion of perfection being challenged; in a sense they are playing God with people's lives. Even if an individual staff member knows the claims against a patient are false they will side with their peers, acting as a fraternity of control, under the guise of hospital policy. This form of racket contradicts the entire concept of people with a diagnosed mental illness being treated and recovering for return to the community, especially for people as myself, who was drunk when committing a crime which was not that serious. Instead, we have psychiatrists and psychologists acting like prosecutors who in reality answer to nobody, and whose main remedy to alleged symptoms is to increase a patient's medication, do anything about their situation, so they give up trying to fight."more:
http://www.illuminati-news.com/wayne-morin-jr.htm
i just watched this movie called "Thirst" on satellite tv. i was expecting some late night 70s vampire schlock-fest but, wow, there is so much more in this. a young woman is abducted by 'the brotherhood', an elite family of rich powerful blood drinkers(decendants of countess bathory) because she is a lost member of the bloodline. the headquarters of the family is a huge castle/compound full of attractive young men and women, all wandering around in a mind controled state, who are used in rituals and for 'harvesting' blood. to return the young woman to the fold, she is drugged and 'programmed' to become one of them. interesting scenes include
- being locked in a dungeon and forced to sleep in a coffin while being monitered by doctors, who comment on her gradual loss of sanity as 'a step in the conditioning process'
- a long disassociation/dream state scene, where at various times she is freezing cold (at which point she returns home), later she picks up a candlestick to use a weapon to defend herself, and is immediatly burnt by it. there is also the obligitory broken mirror scene, and a regression/flashback to when she was a young girl at catholic boarding school and is told her mother is dead, with some suggestion it was suicide.
- a mention is made of "do you remember when you were taken to your uncles farm when you were 11, and you were made to watch the pigs being slaughtered?"
- a blood ritual attended by the rich and famous, where a young woman is murdered by a very old lady.
- a reference to "the new york experiment" and its findings on the effects of conditioning on sanity
theres heaps more in it if you know what to look for. if you didnt, it is just a weird modern-ish vamp movie, but as always, there is a whole other layer underneath. well worth a watch if you have nothing better to do. its actually not a that bad of a movie. and apparently it is being re-made for a 2010 release.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080016/
hunkahunka
10-02-2009, 05:05 PM
check out this clip where Dorothy is committed for electroshock therapy at a mental institution:
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sIMVaNGCZk&feature=related
from:
http://www.hotmoviesale.com/dvds/15699/1/Return-To-Oz.jpg
Return to Oz
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Plot summary
Return to Oz is a film produced by Walt Disney Pictures in 1985. It is based loosely on the books Ozma of Oz and The Marvelous Land of Oz. The film was thought by many to be a sequel to the classic 1939 film, to which it bears little resemblance. It has since become a cult classic. In the film Dorothy Gale has returned to Kansas, but no one believes her story. When she suffers from insomnia, Aunt Em desperate for help for her niece, has Dorothy committed to an insane asylum, to "cure" her by electro-shock therapy. When waiting in her assigned room that night, Dorothy is visited by a girl who later helps Dorothy escape from the clinic when she reveals that patients had been brain damaged by electroshock. When Dorothy escapes she finds herself back in the Land of Oz.
Dorothy and her new friends, Billina the chicken, Jack Pumpkinhead, Tik-Tok, and the head of a Gump, must stop the Nome King and the witch Mombi who wants Dorothy's head for her collection, to restore Princess Ozma to the throne.
Mombi has 31 interchangeable heads, explains that the Nome King was behind the destruction of the Emerald City and the kidnapping of the Scarecrow.
Mombi locks Dorothy and Billina in the attic, where they meet Jack Pumpkinhead (Brian Henson), a friendly stick man with a pumpkin for a head.......blah blah blah
Dorothy is returned to her world, where she is found by Toto, Uncle Henry and Aunt Em. Aunt Em reveals that Dr. Worley's clinic burned down during the night and he died trying to save his machines. A jail cart travels by, with Head Nurse Wilson imprisoned inside. The film concludes with Dorothy's new house being finished and Ozma and Billina appearing in her bedroom mirror, hinting that her adventures in Oz may not be just a dream.
[edit] Cast
* Fairuza Balk as Dorothy Gale
* Nicol Williamson as Dr. Worley & The Nome King
* Jean Marsh as Head Nurse Wilson & Mombi
* Piper Laurie as Aunt Em
* Matt Clark as Uncle Henry
* Michael Sundin & Tim Rose as Tik-Tok (puppeteers)
* Sean Barrett as Tik-Tok (voice)
* Mak Wilson as Billina (puppeteer)
* Denise Bryer as Billina (voice)
* Brian Henson as Jack Pumpkinhead (voice)
* Stewart Larange as Jack Pumpkinhead (puppeteer)
* Lyle Conway as The Gump (voice)
* Steve Norrington as The Gump (puppeteer)
* Pons Maar as Lead Wheeler/Nome Messenger
* Emma Ridley as Ozma
* Justin Case as The Scarecrow
* Various Actors as The Wheelers
* John Alexander as The Lion/Wheeler
* Deep Roy as The Tin Man
* Bruce Boa as Policeman
* Tansy as Toto
http://www.impawards.com/1985/posters/return_to_oz.jpg
http://www.impawards.com/1985/posters/return_to_oz_ver2.jpg
hunkahunka
10-02-2009, 05:58 PM
http://www.nndb.com/people/332/000026254/balk.jpg
Fairuza Balk
Fairuza Balk Tattoos
Fairuza Balk is known for her prominent roles in The Waterboy, American History X and Return to Oz. Balk’s beauty is enhanced by a series of well-placed tattoos around her body.
There are lots.
The first, on her stomach, is a crescent moon.
The second is a sun, set on the opposite side of her stomach to nicely balance out the contrast between night and day.
The third, a winged heart circled by thorns, sits on her left hip.
The fourth is a bundle of lilies bearing a pentagram in the middle.
The fifth, a sentence written in Sanskrit, runs across the small of her back.
The sixth is a pattern of hooks crisscrossing in a band on her right arm.
The seventh, located on her forearm near the shoulder, is a large blue triangle.
The eighth is a pair of cats frolicking on the back of her shoulder, their tails linked.
And, finally, her ninth tattoo – an ankle tattoo – is written in Chinese script, identifing her as a child born during the year of the tiger.
http://www.fairuzabalk.info/images/Fairuza%20Balk/Fairuza_Balk_Tattoo2.jpg
http://www.fairuzabalk.info/images/Fairuza%20Balk/Fairuza_Balk_Tattoo1.jpg
http://www.fairuzabalk.info/images/Fairuza%20Balk/Fairuza_Balk_1.jpg
http://www.fairuzabalk.info/images/Fairuza%20Balk/Fairuza_Balk_2.jpg
http://www.tattoo-net.de/images/inhalt/stars/Fairuza%20Balk1.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/revl1s/normal_fairuza_balk_30.jpg
Balk starred as a leader of a witch coven in the film 'The Craft'
video:
'The Craft' trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2nEL0-sBX4
entire film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tArxxov_LmI&feature=related
hunkahunka
10-02-2009, 09:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSvorQ1FsN8
hunkahunka
10-02-2009, 11:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gklyVN57PCQ
interview of Faruza Balk where she mentions that she owns
an occult shop named Panpipes Magickal Marketplace:
http://s3.ypbot.net/photos/z-3aFqcH_m.jpg
Panpipes Magickal Marketplace
History
Donald R. Blyth..............Doctor, Metaphysician, Occultist, Yogi, opened on Hollywood Blvd, in 1961, the infamous Weird Museum. His collection of oddities had been gathered by his father, a sea captain, in his travels over the world, and brought to Dr. Blyth as a youth.
Early in 1961, Rooms were rented at 6546 Hollywood Boulevard, in Hollywood, as a home to Don's occult group, "Brotherhood of the Ram." and the WEIRD MUSEUM was opened to the public to support the group's new home..
The tickets were 50 cents each.
In the fall of 1970, Isis joined the group, and along with Don, Jolene and Lilith, hosted the Weird Museum .
The little Museum was to become world famous, and finally infamous.
The original museum was housed in three separate rooms: the Chamber of Horrors, the Medical Room, and a special room for Senbi Ak-Es-En-Amen, a 3300 year old Egyptian mummy.
Eventually Dr Blyth opened a new attraction, Nightmare Alley, And acquired a new artifact, the alleged bones of Vlad Tepes the Impaler.....or as he is commonly known...Dracula!
In the spring of 1971, Lilith, Isis and Jolene had an idea, and went to Dr Blyth to ask if they might sell a few candles and herbs in a corner of the Weird Museum....from that small idea was born The Ram Occult Center in the summer of 1971.
The new location on Wilcox Ave was supported by The Ram Center, with Jolene at the helm, and the Museum in secondary residence. Eventually, the Weird Museum was closed and put in storage behind the store.
On January 12th, 1985, Isis closed the once mighty Ram Center, and at 1611 North Cherokee Avenue, in Hollywood, on January 15th, 1985, opened a brand new Hollywood occult shop. Panpipes Magickal Marketplace.
In February 1988, we relocated to Cahuenga Blvd., and business was and is still booming!.
In 1995, Isis sold the store to actress Fairuza Balk.
Fairuza brought in Jymie Darling and Vicky Adams to manage the store in 1997. By 2001 Jymie and Vicky bought Panpipes Magickal Marketplace and that brings us to the present!!
The store was used as shooting location for "Unsolved Mysteries," "Dream On," "Rockford Files, The Movie," "Witchboard II,"
and "Hardball," "North Mission Road". And has been involved with JAG, Pirates of the Carribean II, CSI Las Vegas and much much much more!!!
BROTHERHOOD OF THE RAM (aka 'The Ram Center', 1970? to 01-12-1985)
KNOWN MEMBERS:
* Blythe, Donald Ross -- (b11-19-1926(23?) d01-10-1993 aka "Dr. Blythe") founder:
"Satan's A-Go-Go" nightclub, owner and proprietor;
Brotherhood of the Ram "founded in the 1960s," according to James R. Lewis;
The Weird Museum; museum and curio collection birthed 'The Ram Occult Center',
from which, on 01-15-1985, became Panpipes Magickal Marketplace.
* Diana
* Sharon 'Isis'; proprietor of 'Isis Magick Occult Supply Shoppe'
* Ida, Diana's daughter
* Lilith
* Welch, Jolene Susan (b1948, d01(04?)-03-1993 aka 'Jojo')
The Brotherhood of the Ram changed its name to the Brotherhood of Satan
their youtube channel is here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/brotherhoodofsatan
very interesting sample:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=31475E0B0A1BB6A8&playnext=1
the little dears disabled embedding for the above video, but it works if you click on the link
soulja
11-02-2009, 02:50 AM
great posts guys, very interesting info from the Oz episode to Thirst to Fairuza to that nice find of the Templar/Baphomet/satanic brotherhood.
didn't have the time yet to watch all the videos but will do tomorrow.
just pointing out the obvious now
interview of Faruza Balk where she mentions that she owns
an occult shop named Panpipes Magickal Marketplace:
http://s3.ypbot.net/photos/z-3aFqcH_m.jpg
http://www.pan-flute.com/Graphics/pan2.jpg
http://www.theoi.com/Georgikos/Pan.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_(mythology)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1hiB61Q9pk
if thats the remake, it looks nothing like the original.
interesting about fairuza. so she bought panpipes around the same time she was making 'the craft'?
hunkahunka
11-02-2009, 12:17 PM
if thats the remake, it looks nothing like the original.
?
sorry, wrong movie
here is the trailer for what you mentioned
fascinating, people have to see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSvorQ1FsN8
soulja
11-02-2009, 12:30 PM
yeah that looks more like the flick stal talked about. i'll see if i can get it on torrent and make some screens over the weekend.
hunkahunka
11-02-2009, 01:39 PM
yeah that looks more like the flick stal talked about. i'll see if i can get it on torrent and make some screens over the weekend.
the woman who starred as the lead role in Thirst also had the lead role as Rosa in a 1996 film called 'Offspring':
Plot summary for
Offspring (1996) More at IMDbPro »
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Rosa, a glamorous woman, is obsessed with exacting a brutal revenge on her only daughter Maria. Maria is a successful model and film star who has recently become engaged to one of her co-stars. After reluctantly accepting Rosa's invitation to spend the weekend with her, the couple soon discover Rosa's true intentions and an emotional and bitter confrontation ensues. Written by Anonymous
Ben and his wife Maria are happy and successful people. One day their lives are disrupted by a letter from Maria's mother, who she ran away from at the age of 16. Due to the bad blood between Rosa (her mother) and her, Maria is reluctant to go, but agrees when Ben insists. Once at Rosa's mansion, Ben finds himself in a spiderweb of lies and perverted storytelling, as both Rosa and Maria explain about their past. While Rosa claims Maria is mentally ill, Maria claims Rosa helped her stepfather molest her when she was a girl back in Italy. But the married couple will find that some secrets are better left buried, for these revelations are deadly.
hunkahunka
11-02-2009, 03:08 PM
check out this article on Woodlands School (originally named the Public Hospital for the Insane, which later became the child division of Essondale Hospital) which was located just a mile from Essondale Hospital/Colony Farm (and the original Pickton pig farm)
Woodlands justice in doubt
By Roxanne Gregory
Bill MacArthur was seven in 1963 when his mother left him for the first time at Woodlands School. His mother said it was a summer school-but she didn't tell him he couldn't go home. Bill was hyperactive, but he was also highly intelligent, and he soon learned the lessons of survival at Woodlands.
"In the morning they would line us up for the washroom. I remember seeing people tied down to toilets and staff pouring hot water over their genitals to make them go. I was afraid all the time," he told the Georgia Straight in a recent interview.
"There was a nurse…She found a staff member in bed with a patient and she reported him. They fired her," he said.
MacArthur said he was sexually assaulted by staff, but what he feared most was being forcibly submerged in tubs filled with ice water until he nearly drowned. Another boy he knew was repeatedly confined inside a canvas sack and held underwater. "This was the way they controlled your behaviour," he explained matter-of-factly.
Although the recent and belated coroner's inquest into the tragic death of 19-month-old Sherry Charlie has renewed calls in B.C. for greater social-services oversight and accountability, abuse of children while in government care has a long history here-beginning decades before little Sherry's death.
And a recent court decision might deny former child victims of institutional abuse the justice they've sought for decades.
In February 2000, a chorus of complaints from former Woodlands School residents found a short-lived voice in the local press. In response, B.C.'s Liberals commissioned then-former ombudsman Dulcie McCallum to write an administrative review of the government-run facility that provided residential care for hundreds of children between 1950 and 1996.
McCallum's review, completed in August 2001 and released by the province in July 2002, found widespread sexual, physical, and emotional abuse of children at Woodlands, as well as unexpected and uninvestigated deaths. The physical mistreatment included "hitting, kicking, smacking, slapping, striking, restraining, isolating…very cold showers, very hot baths resulting in burns, verbal abuse, extended isolation, wearing shackles, and a belt leash with documented evidence of injuries including bruising, scratches, broken limbs, black eyes and swollen face".
Woodlands survivor Gary Hill told the Straight of a nightmarish practice: "Lots of kids had all their teeth pulled so they couldn't bite staff.…After I left Woodlands, when my dentist was working on me, he said my mouth looked like they used a shovel."
McCallum urged the government to apologize and compensate victims-and not by revictimizing them through a judicial process. Without success, she urged a second-stage investigation of the systemic abuse. No Woodlands staff member has ever been charged with abuse or assault.
Almost 3,000 people who died in government care and were unclaimed were buried at Woodlands between 1926 and 1957. In 1977, a Social Credit cabinet order-in-council resulted in the people's headstones-about 1,800 of them-being pulled up and the area grassed over and redesignated as a park. McCallum discovered that some of the headstones were used to construct a staff barbecue patio and stairs. After 1958, unclaimed bodies were sent to UBC as cadavers.
Although the government apologized in 2002 and pledged a $2-million fund for counselling, the money isn't just for the estimated 1,500 survivors of Woodlands. It's also for residents from three other facilities-Essondale, Valleyview, and Tranquille-and, to date, not a dime has been released to any survivors.
Survivors attempted to launch a class-action lawsuit against the provincial government in 2002, but the Liberals stalled, arguing that the suit should be brought by the office of the Public Guardian and Trustee and not by an independent North Vancouver law firm, Poyner Baxter.
In 2004, a B.C. court decided otherwise, and in March 2005 the class-action lawsuit was certified before Judge Nancy Morrison by attorneys from Poyner Baxter.
In a March 2005 news release, attorney Jim Poyner said: "We hope that government will now finally recognize that serious damage has been done to a very large number of people, and work to expeditiously correct decades of evasion." Despite the class-action certification, a year later no court dates are pending.
ON WOODLANDS' bucolic 26-hectare grounds at McBride Boulevard and Columbia Street in New Westminster, almost 1,600 children lived in lock-down conditions at any one time inside outdated buildings that formerly housed B.C.'s "lunatics".
Established on the New Westminster cricket pitch in 1878, the Public Hospital for the Insane was a castlelike fortress overlooking the B.C. Penitentiary and the Fraser River. In 1950, the B.C. government, which ran the facility, decided to separate disabled children from adult lunatics (who were sent to Essondale), and the institution was renamed the Woodlands School. Woodlands became home to the province's unwanted kids.
Babies abandoned at birth in hospital, the hyperactive, the epileptic, the intellectually challenged, the disabled, wards of the court, and children displaced by the closure of Vancouver's orphanage all lived within its walls and cottages.
But Woodlands wasn't a school you could graduate from. In fact, in 1973 there were only 12 teachers there for about 1,600 residents. Once children were committed to Woodlands, they often lived there for the rest of their lives-that is, until the province closed the facility in 1996.
Despite McCallum's report and horrifying statements by former residents in news reports, on November 24, 2005, Children and Family Development Minister Stan Hagen told the legislature-in response to a query from Opposition critic Adrian Dix-that the government "disagrees" that there was "systemic abuse" at Woodlands.
Hagen also neglected to mention that Woodlands children were used in genetic research and drug experiments for more than 30 years. Between 1954 and 1978, almost three dozen research papers, including drug studies, were published by the then-medical director of Woodlands, Dr. Bluma Tischler. Research continued until 1986.
In 1978, Premier Bill Bennett praised Tischler's work at Woodlands when he announced a fellowship in her name. "Dr. Tischler has conducted outstanding research…during the past 24 years. Her more than 35 scientific publications have made such an impact that Dr. Tischler has increased the knowledge of scientists throughout the world," he said in the legislature.
(One published paper was about extracting urine samples from children by inserting a needle through the abdomen above the pubic bone and aspirating the fluid with a syringe-a method of obtaining a sterile sample that is commonly used today in uncooperative cats and dogs.)
Not everyone agreed with Bennett's adulation, but those who were critical of the way children were cared for at Woodlands met with dismissal or worse.
In the fall of 1972, Marie White had been working at Woodlands for almost 10 years. She was head nurse of the isolation ward, and she was worried. According to a letter from her attorney, Brian Stanton, to Woodlands superintendent Pauline Hughes-and copied to Opposition health critic Bob McClelland, who read it in the legislature-her complaints about alleged sexual abuse of children by a janitor fell on deaf ears. Her concerns that kids were also being overmedicated and that there wasn't enough control over access to drugs elicited no response from the administration.
When she couldn't get the administration to act, she threatened to go to the media-a threat that sealed her fate in a scenario mimicking a script from TV's The Prisoner.
According to Stanton, while working one day in November 1972, she was told by the director of nursing that she was unwell and required immediate treatment. Neither the nature of her alleged sickness nor the treatment required was revealed by her supervisor. She was escorted to Dr. Hughes's office. (Besides being superintendent of Woodlands, 10 years earlier Hughes had been involved in genetic-research experiments there.)
Once inside Hughes's office, according to Stanton (who is now dead), White was confronted by a Dr. McKenzie, whose first name is not mentioned in the letter. McKenzie told her she was being committed to a private facility for the insane for her own good.
Stanton wrote that when White tried to resign on the spot, McKenzie called for an orderly and a matron. They took her from the office and bundled her into a waiting car. Despite having no committal papers, she was admitted and sedated at the Hollywood Sanitarium in New Westminster, from where they planned to send her to Riverview for 30 days. However, according to a May 7, 1973, article in the New Westminster Columbian newspaper, her daughter intervened and secured her release with the help of Stanton's partner, Norman Einarsson.
As Stanton wrote to Hughes: "In short, our client was seized, abducted, imprisoned, drugged, and reported as insane for the purpose of protecting certain improper procedures at the Woodlands School."
As the Columbian noted on December 29, 1972, B.C.'s NDP health minister, Dennis Cocke, under pressure from the Opposition, belatedly asked for an investigation.
The Columbian reported in January 1973 that Cocke had ordered the month previous that White be reinstated without loss of wages, and the attorney general, Alexander Barrett MacDonald, announced his office would also conduct an investigation, but in January White had still heard nothing about her reinstatement and Hughes refused comment when the Columbian came calling.
At the time, White told the newspaper: "I am quite willing to go back to Woodlands to work. But I haven't heard from Woodlands at all. When I receive instructions to return to work in writing, I will go back. But they haven't written to me yet, nor have they sent me any money."
Three months later, White was still not working. By May 1973, though, Woodlands gave her five months' salary, a lump sum to pay her lawyers, and another job in an undisclosed government institution. The Georgia Straight was unable to ascertain her present-day whereabouts.
COCKE'S INVESTIGATION wasn't the first review of abuse at Woodlands. Ten years earlier, there had been the so-called Amos Gill inquiry into abuse and the misappropriation of funds at the facility.
After the March 2005 class-action lawsuit became certified, hope was beginning to dawn for Woodlands survivors, but in October of last year many of them learned they may never be compensated for the abuse they suffered-even if the class action is successful.
A little-known court decision in October 2005-the Arishenkoff ruling-may have decided the fates of Woodlands survivors who were abused before 1974. In 1974, the government passed the Crown Proceedings Act, which allowed the Crown to be held liable for the actions of its employees.
The Arishenkoff case arose out of abuse at residential schools where Doukhobor children were interned by the B.C. government in the '50s and '60s. But the Arishenkoff ruling meant that liability for injury or abuse can't be laid at the government's door retroactively-if the alleged wrong was done before the Crown Proceedings Act became law.
The Arishenkoff case wasn't even before the courts when lawyer Jim Poyner first tried bringing the Woodlands class-action suit.
On October 31 last year, a frustrated Poyner told Woodlands survivors at one of their regular meetings: "If we hadn't had to fight to represent this group for the last three years, we might have already reached a settlement. This is really bad…Only a political decision can make this right."
Len Zimmer, who lived 18 years at Woodlands, was devastated by the news of the Arishenkoff ruling. "I thought I was going to have a heart attack," he told the Straight. "It's just so unfair." Zimmer was born in Essondale (now Riverview)-B.C.'s psychiatric hospital where, post-Second World War, up to 4,000 B.C. residents languished in the care of only seven doctors at any one time.
Zimmer spent the first years of his life at Essondale, until he was moved to Woodlands in 1954 at age seven. Conditions inside Woodlands weren't better; they were worse. Zimmer said he was repeatedly sexually abused and tortured by staff until he finally won his freedom by escaping in 1972. For years, Zimmer said, he tried to tell his story, but the police didn't believe him and no one else listened.
Sexual abuse of children was widespread within the institution, members of the Woodlands Survivors group told the Straight. McCallum's review found sexual "assault, intercourse and in the result, injuries and in a few cases pregnancy".
Bill MacArthur, the boy who was dropped off at "summer school", is angry at the way Woodlands survivors have been treated by government. "I want everyone to remember what happened at Woodlands so that it never happens to anybody again…A whole group of people will be denied justice with this [Arishenkoff] ruling," he said.
Luann Bradshaw was 12 in 1961 when her parents' divorce divided her family. Her mother, Amy Reiter, told the Straight that she put Luann in B.C. government care at Woodlands for a weekend to get some doctor-ordered rest for herself. When she tried to bring her daughter home, staff refused to release her. She said she was assured Luann would get good care at the facility. But that didn't happen.
Bradshaw is an independent and outspoken critic of Woodlands. "I was determined not to let myself become permanently damaged. I'm a long-time survivor because of that," she told the Straight. "I've been in the [survivors'] community for 22 years. The physical, social, mental, and psychological torture at Woodlands was ongoing. They would make you go hungry. They took your home visits away, even your phone calls…They made you kneel for hours at a time on a hard wooden floor until you could hardly move…
"There was an all-male ward where everyone getting out of the bathtub got badly whipped. They became so scarred they could hardly stand.
"And there was slavery. I'd make 30 to 50 beds a day, every day, and I folded thousands of diapers each month for $12. Woodlands was a deadly prison. No one deserves to go through what we had to go through."
Will there be justice for the forgotten children of Woodlands?
hunkahunka
11-02-2009, 03:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs5PEEzaxjU
emerald
11-02-2009, 04:09 PM
http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/2009/02/11/is-anyone-else-watching-toddlers-tiaras/
mrmoney
11-02-2009, 04:23 PM
I've heard this conspiracy before, and it's not a good one.
I can't think of any desperate fans "rebelling".. It's stupid.
good find on the woodlands thing. an exclusive 'school' does bad shit to kids. what a surprise. not.
here is another old movie for you guys. btw, the australian film industry in the 70s/early 80s operated with carte blanche, including a 100% tax rebate. most people only know of films like 'mad max' and 'picnic at hanging rock' (excellent in their own right, actualy you should take a look at picnic...) but there were many more (so-called) oz-sploitation flics made. mostly trash, but there were some real gems in there.
anyway, back to what i was on about. 'harlequin'. not a lot of overt mind control in this, but there are other things worth noting. for starters, it stars one of the main actors (david hemmings) from 'thirst' as a naieve politician, who is being groomed by the 'ptb' to take on the role of PM. there is an oblique reference to harold holt, the australian PM who dissapeared while taking a dip in the ocean.
just as this man is about to be appointed, a stranger enters his life. he first appears as a clown at the poli's sons birthday, then proceeds to perform 'miracles', thus insinuating himself into the powerful household. after seducing every woman in sight (or perhaps not quite so much. if you know your shit, you will understand this), performing various parlour tricks, and subsequntly being proven a fraud by the secret service, our man the magi becomes a very strange character. real 'majik' is performed, and the poli is warned not to take the deal being offered by the 'ptb'. the 'stranger' could be likened to rasputin (even imdb says it lol) as, amongst other things he is a spirtual advisor of dubious character who perhaps cannot die. actualy, even the good folks (lol) at wikipedia mention the rasputin angle.
i'm not so good at explaining things, but suffice to say, this is another old movie well worth watching. there is heaps more than what i have mentioned. i know there are a few people here that would get it. also, the soundtrack is done by the same guy who did the music for 'thirst' and many other aussie films of the period, a guy by the name of brian may.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080842/
brian may http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/articles/1997/07_May---Brian_May__1934-1997.asp
jadeaube
11-02-2009, 06:59 PM
Apparently Bob Marley was murdered by the CIA too... he got shot the one time then ot back up on stage to stick it to the man... then they claimed he died from an infection in his toe... One of my teachers brought it to my attention how stupid this was... and he's right. its a retarded story... they obviously managed to get to him somehow that second time
emerald
12-02-2009, 12:04 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1141588/Holy-Smoke-Batwoman-makes-comic-book-comeback-red-headed-lesbian.html
hunkahunka
12-02-2009, 03:18 PM
good find on the woodlands thing. an exclusive 'school' does bad shit to kids. what a surprise. not.
I'm not sure that people are realizing the full implications of what we are uncovering here.
here is a basic summary of some of what was recently posted.
- mental hospitals in both Montreal and Vancouver have been linked to horrendous torture and experimentation on 'patients' in their care.
- mass graves near hog farms have been found in both locations, both
in Montreal and Vancouver
- systematic homosexual abuse of children takes place at many of these places, as evidenced at Napa state hospital, Essondale, etc.
- the Pickton pig farm murders are likely linked to mkultra operations
hunkahunka
12-02-2009, 04:09 PM
Woodlands School in Vancouver (child division of Essondale) was torched just six months ago, this past summer after four 'unexplained' fires in four days finally polished it off:
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2008/07/09/bc-090709-woodlands-fire-2.jpg
Flames engulf the Woodlands building in New Westminster on Wednesday, the fourth fire at the site in the past four days. (Amar Parmar/CBC)
Heavy smoke from Woodlands fire a health concern: fire official
4th fire at the site in past 4 days, police say
Wednesday, July 9, 2008 | 7:50 PM P
CBC News
The old Woodlands building in New Westminster, B.C., lay in ruins after a three-alarm blaze burned through the structure Wednesday afternoon.
New Westminster police said the blaze that broke out shortly after 12 noon was the fourth fire at the site in the past four days. Woodlands, built in 1878, was formerly part of a school for children with mental disabilities. It was closed in 1996.
'I felt like I was sitting around a camp fire. It was that strong.'— Sarah McLean, nearby resident
Wednesday's blaze prompted the evacuation of three adjoining condominium complexes in the afternoon, including 150 residents of the 72-unit Victoria Hill condo complex.
Residents of two of the complexes were allowed back home in the evening but were advised to close the windows due to the heavy smoke that was still lingering the area, the New Westminster Fire Department said.
"There’s lots of tar and paper and several layers of wall material that we don’t know what it was," Deputy Fire Chief Jim Cook said. "It was built 100 years ago so whatever they used back in the day will be producing toxic smoke."
The New Westminster Fire Department advised residents who were allowed back to their homes to close all windows because of smoke. The New Westminster Fire Department advised residents who were allowed back to their homes to close all windows because of smoke. (CBC)
Cook said the fire spread quickly and violently, and firefighters could only battle the blaze from the outside.
More than 40 members from the New Westminster and Burnaby fire departments were deployed to the scene.
"The fire is able to travel from room to room very easily. The attic space is totally wide open and the fire has managed to vent its way through the whole building," Cook said.
Sarah McLean, who lives in a high-rise building across the street from the building, said the fire was burning out of control.
"There's a big mushroom cloud of smoke. It took probably about half an hour for the flames to engulf the whole building," McLean told CBC News in a telephone interview.
"I can feel the power from the fire on my balcony.… I felt like I was sitting around a campfire. It was that strong."
Cause of latest fire not known
Sgt. Ivan Chu, a spokesman for the New Westminster Police Department, said Wednesday's blaze was the fourth fire at the Woodlands site in the past four days.
"It's hard to say whether it's a continuation or whether it's an arson," Chu said of the latest fire.
"It's an old, abandoned building. It's been broken into. People have been stealing metal from it over the years. Who knows why it's on fire," he said.
The cause of Wednesday's blaze is not yet known.
Woodlands School was closed in 1996 after the allegations of abuse at Woodlands surfaced.
(extreme hot burning baths and ice water baths, waterboarding, isolation cells , tooth extraction, homosexual rape, whippings, shackles, electroshock, all the usual stuff)
So there all goes all that forensic evidence up in smoke this past summer, just as the interest in Ewen Cameron and Mkultra etc. is peaking, and
four accidental fires in four days did it.
hunkahunka
12-02-2009, 04:38 PM
video on the Woodlands graveyard that was bulldozed and headstones removed:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2331816500186736934&ei=6UCUSenWK4P6-QGa4uGqDA&q=woodlands+school+abuse&hl=en
Arthur Thomas Davis had epilepsy. In the 1920s, he was committed to the Woodlands Institution, a residential hospital for the developmentally challenged and people with mental disabilities. Davis died there in the 1930s and he was buried at the Woodlands Cemetery with 3300 deceased patients from Essondale (now Riverview), the Colony Farm facility for the elderly, and Woodlands. Jump decades ahead. Woodlands became a residential school for children with mental disabilities. As determined in a 2002 report, the students were subjected to physical, mental and sexual abuse. In this period, hospital administrators decided to remove headstones. The headstones were tossed into a ravine or used to pave a picnic patio for staff. For many, the memory of the cemetery is forgotten. Then the school is shut down amid an abuse scandal. All the while an oral history project is started by Simon Fraser University. Former patients talk about a lost cemetery and a patient family and survivor group is formed to find out who is buried there. Arthur Thomas Davis' descendants and other patient families began to lobby the provincial government to address the desecration of the cemetery. Erik Lees, landscape and memorial designer, took on the job restoring the site. Davis' headstone was found and set with 600 other headstones into a series of plinths and memory walls and a garden is built. A few weeks ago, the Woodlands Memorial Garden officially opened and the descendants of Davis gave VBD a tour. «
hunkahunka
13-02-2009, 01:51 AM
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Frances Farmer
Western State Hospital and later life
Farmer moved back in with her parents in West Seattle, but she and her mother fought bitterly. Within six months, Farmer physically attacked her mother. Her mother then had Frances Farmer committed to Western State Hospital at Steilacoom, Washington. There, Farmer sometimes received electro-convulsive shock treatment (ECT). Three months later, during the summer of 1944, she was pronounced "completely cured" and released.
While traveling with her father to visit at an aunt's ranch in Reno, Nevada, Farmer ran away. She spent time with a family who had picked her up hitchhiking, but she was eventually arrested for vagrancy in Antioch, California. Her arrest received wide publicity. Offers for help came in from across the country, but Farmer ignored them all. After a long stay with her aunt in Nevada, Farmer went back to her parents. At her mother's request, at age 32, Farmer was recommitted to Western State Hospital in May 1945 and remained there almost five years, with the exception of a brief parole in 1946.
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Farmer with her demented looking mother
Farmer was ridiculed and dismissed for her accounts of being raped on
military bases, but it turns out that the very insane asylum that her mother
sent her to, in 1944, was originally a military base.
Fort Steilacoom was decommissioned as a military post in 1868. In 1871 an insane asylum opened there, with the barracks serving as patient and staff housing. Fort Steilacoom is now the mental hospital called Western State Hospital.
hunkahunka
13-02-2009, 02:31 AM
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Roseann Barr sex kitten programming>forgive me
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hunkahunka
13-02-2009, 08:47 AM
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Frances Elena Farmer (date of birth) : September 19, 1913
By January 1943, she failed to pay the rest of the fine and a bench warrant was issued for her arrest. At almost the same time, a studio hairdresser filed an assault charge alleging that Farmer had dislocated her jaw on the set. The police traced Farmer to the Knickerbocker Hotel in Hollywood. Getting no answer, they entered her room with a pass key. They reportedly found her in bed (some stories include an episode involving the bathroom) and made her dress quickly. By all accounts, she did not surrender peacefully.
At her hearing the next morning, she behaved erratically. She claimed the police had violated her civil rights, demanded an attorney, and threw an inkwell at the judge. He immediately sentenced her to 180 days in jail. She knocked down a policeman and bruised another, along with a matron. She ran to a phone booth where she tried to call her attorney, but was subdued by the police. They physically carried her away as she shouted, “Have you ever had a broken heart?”
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Newspaper reports gave sensationalized accounts of her arrest. Through the efforts of her sister-in-law, a deputy sheriff in Los Angeles County, Farmer was transferred to the psychiatric ward of L.A. General Hospital.[1] There she was diagnosed with "manic depressive psychosis."
First hospitalization
Within days, having been sent to the San Fernando Valley and the Kimball Sanitarium in La Crescenta, Farmer was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.
That would make Frances Farmer 29 years old at the time of her first hospitalization.
hunkahunka
13-02-2009, 08:34 PM
ever wonder where the term 'funny farm' came from?
(hint: produces 'vegetables' and 'fruits')
check out this info on the history of Washington State Hospital, where Frances Farmer underwent 'treatment'.
A military installation converted into a lunatic asylum , with a hog farm staffed by 'patients', featuring electroshock , etc.
Could you envision a more exact setting for 'Oz' programming?
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The Run from Farm to Farm
As Fort Steilacoom becomes Western State Hospital
By Hilda Skott
Western State Hospital Dairy Herd
Where woolly sheep once grazed across Puget Sound prairies, Western State Hospital now stands. The hospital today, serving the mentally ill in western Washington, stands amid native firs and flowering ornamentals, looking like a college campus. This transformation has its roots in the days of the first white settlements in the Northwest.
In 1844, during the days of the Joint Occupancy Agreement between Great Britain and the United States, Joseph Thomas Heath arrived from England at Fort Nisqually, a Hudson's Bay Company trading post. He settled on Steilacoom Farm, an area now divided amongst Western State Hospital, a county golf course, Fort Steilacoom County Park, and Pierce College.
By 1847 Heath's livestock included 206 sheep, 18 horses, and 78 cattle, 10 of which were husky oxen used for pulling loaded farm wagons. Oxen also drew the plows that broke the virgin sod in preparation for planting.
Heath grew about 100 acres of such crops as wheat, peas, and potatoes. His cows produced enough butter for export. The rolling hills of his 640 acres served as acreage for crops and pasture land for animals. Timberland supplied lumber needed in farm buildings, threshing floors, fence posts, and butter casks.
Nearby Indians of the Steilacoom, Snoqualmie, and Skokomish tribes provided needed labor for the farm. Heath also bartered with the Indians. For deer, duck, salmon, and trout he offered blankets, shirts, needles, and medical help. Barter included payment for labor.
Heath died in March 1849. In August of that year Captain Bennett Hill and his army artillery company arrived in the area to establish a military post to protect settlers in what had by then become Oregon Territory. In late August 1849 the American army agreed to rent the buildings and 373.75 acres of the farm for $50 a month. Fort Steilacoom served as a supply depot and refuge from 1849 to 1868. During the Indian wars of 1855-56, the garrison served as headquarters for the Ninth Infantry.
Local settlers, when they feared Indian attacks, packed their belongings, hitched up their oxen-drawn wagons, and sought refuge at the fort. Ezra Meeker, prominent Puget Sound pioneer, recounted one such gathering: "A sorry mess . . . women and children crying, cows bellowing, sheep bleating, dogs howling...utmost disorder." During this period Washington became a territory (in 1853) and Oregon a state (in 1859).
April 22, 1868: On the parade ground in front of the commanding officer's home, probably accompanied by a cannon salute and drum roll, the lowering of the last flag at Fort Steilacoom took place.
The last military unit to hold Fort Steilacoom was Battery E, Second Artillery, with 5 officers and 124 men, Captain Charles Pierce, officer in charge. Elwood Evans, a leading citizen from Olympia, secured the flag as it came down the shaft. This flag, badly frayed and holding 37 stars, rests today in Historic Fort Steilacoom's Interpretive Center on the grounds of Western State Hospital.
Legislation introduced in Congress in 1868 to give Fort Steilacoom to Washington Territory did not pass. Dorothea Dix, a 19th-century social reformer, arrived in Portland in 1869. After investigating treatment of the mentally ill in Washington Territory, she wrote to Governor Alvin Flanders, that "provision and care are both inadequate and unsuitable." She urged, "in the interest of humanity," that the governor remove patients from their Monticello (modern-day Longview) location and take them to Portland.
Dix also wrote to Elwood Evans and to the Daily Pacific Tribune of Olympia. She described housing as barren as a barn, cell-like rooms, sanitation that left "sinks never washed" and "very dirty bedding." In November 1869 a legislator presented the letters to the House Select Committee. He declared "the present system for the government and care of the insane wholly inadequate... and as an expensive failure." He feared that this "will detract seriously from the rising reputation of our Territory."
On January 15, 1870, Washington's territorial legislature bought the garrison buildings for use as an "Insane Asylum for Washington Territory." Construction of the fort cost $200,000; the territorial legislature paid $850.
On August 19, 1871, 21 patients (15 men and 6 women) transferred from Monticello where they had been cared for by James Huntington and W. W. Hays for one dollar per patient per day.
Three years later, on April 15, 1874, Congress approved the donation of 373.75 acres of Fort Steilacoom to Washington Territory for "an asylum for the insane and for no other purpose." Over the years, the institution's acreage increased, mainly by purchase, eventually to equal, and even exceed, the size of Steilacoom Farm. In 1921 the total was 670 acres; by the 1940s the total had become 860 acres.
In 1875 the legislature renamed the institution the "Hospital for the Insane in Washington Territory." During the first days of the hospital's operation patients occupied old barracks. As the hospital grew, Officers Row, on the north side of the parade ground, housed doctors and staff. The commanding officer's quarters became the superintendent's residence. In time, trellised vines enclosed the veranda, flowers graced the front lawn, and a picket fence added to a homelike atmosphere.
Of the original 25 buildings acquired from the fort, four structures still remain. Three officers' quarters and the chaplaincy have been placed on the National Register of Historic Places and serve today as the center of operations for the Historic Fort Steilacoom Association.
Two early structures built by the hospital also remain: a bakery, built in 1901, and the old morgue, built in 1907. They stand together, surrounded by newer structures, looking like shriveled grandparents encircled by recent generations. (Both buildings are also on the National Register of Historic Places.)
The arrival in 1880 of Dr. John W. Waughop as hospital superintendent signaled a new era for the institution. Waughop remained at his post for 17 years. His influence is still in evidence even today
The territorial legislature, in 1886, passed a bill to establish a permanent territorial hospital for the mentally ill, appropriating $100,000 for its operation.
Formal opening, "one of the most brilliant events in the territory," took place December 15, 1887. Governor Eugene Semple, along with legislative representatives and members of the press, arrived from Olympia by boat. One hundred Tacomans also came by water. Four hundred people joined the governor for dinner. A concert opened with the hospital's band playing the "Grand March" from Tannhäuser.
A number of solos, duets, and quartets-vocal and instrumental-were followed by a "laughable farce." "The music of bewitching waltzes" resounded through the halls, and some celebrants remained until dawn.
In 1888, possibly in anticipation of statehood, the territorial legislature officially named the institution "Western Washington Hospital for the Insane."
Dr. Waughop instituted a building program, adding wings to older structures for new wards and erecting a central kitchen and powerhouse. New landscaping beautified the grounds. A Chinese empress tree, its purple bloom spread across its crown, continues to blossom every spring.
Dr. Waughop's attention to patients, while concentrating on custodial care, convinced him they needed occupation. Some farming took place from early days of the institution. Waughop expanded agricultural pursuits, building new barns and adding a dairy herd to supply milk as well as patient activity. Meat came from hogs and chickens, the latter also providing eggs. At the turn of the century, farm produce "provided one-third the cost of subsistence" at the hospital, according to Clara Cooley, author of a Western State Hospital history. Patients also assisted in the carpenter, tin, and blacksmith shops, and in the laundry and the kitchen. Work became therapeutic occupation for patients.
In recent years a hospital employee, poking around in dark corners of the hospital commissary, discovered a dusty plaque honoring Waughop. Signed in 1906 by Governor Albert Mead, it reads:
In memory of Dr. John W. Waughop, Superintendent of this hospital from 1880 to 1897. He was the practical creator of the institution as it now exists. Through his professional attainments, his executive ability, and his intelligence as a man, the institution was built up and took high position among those of the country.
Dr. William Keller, a vigorous leader known for his tendency to support the underdog, became the hospital's next notable superintendent in October 1914. He supported more humane patient treatment, eight-hour workdays for hospital attendants, and legislation to allow voluntary admission for people with psychiatric problems. Chairs replaced benches for patients in halls and day rooms. China, rather than earthenware, appeared on ward dining tables. Cut flowers from the greenhouse graced tables in lounges, reception areas, and dining rooms.
In 1915 the Washington State Legislature changed the institution's name to the one it still holds, Western State Hospital. Dr. Keller extended farm operations and developed a top-notch dairy herd. Sadly, when Washington's Department of Agriculture began to require that all milk cows in the state be tested for tuberculosis, all but five cows in the hospital herd tested positive. Farm herds in the entire state were hit. In some quarters rumor ran that authorities, arriving on farms to destroy tubercular livestock, came face to face with farmers wielding pitchforks and shotguns.
Keller huddled with state officials to devise a plan. Rather than slaughter the state's dairy cattle, the hospital would accept some of the diseased animals, isolate them, and give special attention to newborn calves. Immediately after birth, before nursing, a calf would be removed from its mother. All milk was to be boiled before use.
In this manner, newborn calves were tuberculosis-free. The state's best farm herds were saved. Among those saved, a future wonder cow among the hospital herd appeared.
A registered purebred Holstein cow named Steilacoom Prilly Ormsby Blossom achieved a world record. In her lifetime, 1921-38, she produced 258,210 pounds of milk containing 9,558 pounds of butterfat. The hospital dairy herd, "famous over the nation," produced cows that brought home blue and red ribbons from the Western Washington Fair. The hospital farm exhibit-its flowers, fruits, and vegetables-also snatched their share of prizes at the fair.
Joseph Heath's cows produced casks of butter for export; hospital herds won prizes and fed all the patients. Just like the old Heath farm, the hospital farm-until its closure in 1965-took its place as a productive agricultural enterprise.
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Born on September 19, 1913, Frances Elena Farmer was the third child of Lillian Van Ornum (d. 1955) and Ernest Melvin Farmer (d. 1956). Her father, a son of a Minnesota circuit county judge, was a lawyer who settled in Seattle in 1900.
jesuitsdidit
13-02-2009, 10:34 PM
apparently the creation of The Beatles was a psy-op..
hunkahunka
14-02-2009, 01:35 AM
Found this on Pickton pig farm victim Stephanie Lane:
Before being introduced to heroin and cocaine and the hooker stroll, twenty-year-old Stephanie had been a “pretty and very popular” straight-A student, indulged, perhaps overindulged, by her doting parents, Michele Pineault and George Lane. Stephanie began her plunge into the Eastside abyss while working at a club called Number 5 Orange.
It turns out that Number 5 Orange was owned and operated by the Hells
Angels:
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Last night, members of the Integrated Gang Unit entered the No. 5 Orange strip bar at Main & Powell St. They could be seen by a man standing in the free soup line up at the Sally Ann which parks across the street on Tuesday nights. "There were six of them," he says. "They had yellow stripes up the sides of their pants so I knew they were RCMP. They had dark jackets with 'Gang Unit' or "Gang something' on the back." They arrived in unmarked cars.
ctnd.
http://downtowneastsideenquirer.blog...ast-night.html
7 comments:
who owns the #5 orange?? jesus fuckin christ....
February 3, 2008 7:17 AM
reliable sources said...
In answer to your question about who owns the #5 Orange, if you ask any Downtown Eastsider, the answer you will get is that it's owned by the Hell's Angels.
February 3, 2008 8:50 PM
(This column was published in the North Shore News on Aug. 1, 2001)
Project Nova worked well
By Leo Knight
THE sentencing last week of two members of the Hells Angels East End chapter brought to a close a saga which started five years ago.
Project Nova began in the wake of an extortion investigation into two senior Hells Angels called Project Breakpoint, which ended without prosecution, much to the frustration of police investigators angered by the decision to terminate a wiretap intercept warrant just days into the authorization.
Robert Molesberry had been a doorman at the Number 5 Orange strip bar in the Downtown Eastside. That was the legitimate part of his life. He also ran a marijuana grow-op for one Hells Angel and sold cocaine for two others.
He had a piece of bad luck when someone "ripped the grow," leaving him empty-handed and trying to explain the situation to the biker he worked for. He was "fined" $10,000 for his perceived transgression. He also owed two other Angels $1,500 for a fronted ounce of cocaine.
When he couldn't come up with the money he got kicked around behind the strip bar in a less than gentle reminder about his need to pay the assigned debt. This made him mad; after all, he had worked for the bikers for over two years and made them a ton of money. He found, much to his chagrin, that there is a price to be paid when you sleep with the devil.
Molesberry also ran an after-hours club for the bikers in Vancouver which was used by the Angels to move a lot of dope through. He later told police, "F*** these guys. I made them so much money over the years and they do this to me. Well f*** them."
With that, Molesberry became an agent for the Vancouver police. But, this also presented a problem for the two officers who interviewed him. They were concerned that the police and the Attorney General's office may be compromised and had no confidence that a long-term project could be run. Then-Vancouver Police department Const. Al Dalstrom, testified in court about the situation saying there were security concerns in the police community and "we wanted to take our investigation and work off-site somewhere away from the police community."
Dalstrom and his partner, Andy Richards, took a proposal to then-VPD Chief Constable Ray Canuel. They laid out what they needed and outlined their concerns. Canuel made a decision to fund an investigation from his contingency fund, then about $200,000. He also arranged for a team to be detached from Strike Force to work the file on a full-time basis, assigning Inspector Peter Ditchfield to oversee the investigation.
The last problem was the security issue and the possibility of the Hells Angels having compromised the police community. Canuel arranged to use an intercept room at regional CSIS headquarters as a base for the crew. Project Nova was born.
The subsequent years were a roller-coaster ride for the police officers involved. It only ended last week when East End chapter members Francisco "Chico" Pires and Ronaldo "Ronnie" Lissing were sentenced to four and a half years in federal prison for conspiracy to traffic in cocaine.
But, they weren't the only victories claimed by Project Nova. In fact, the investigation yielded an impressive score. By the time the operation was concluded the police had seized over $12 million in drugs, cash, property and weapons, 57 search warrants were executed and 76 people were charged with various offences. Most pled guilty including the last one in February, Romano Brienza, the former president of the Regulators. His brother is Vincenzo "Vinnie" Brienza, a senior member of the Haney chapter of the Hells Angels. He was arrested with a kilo of cocaine, 30 pounds of marijuana and a gun.
But the most important thing produced by Project Nova was the destruction of the Hells Angels' ability to say the police were wrong about them being an organized criminal group. In fact, on a radio talk show before Nova was terminated, Vancouver Chapter member and frequent spokesman for the bikers, Rick Ciarnello, dared Dalstrom to prove they were criminals. That's exactly what Dalstrom and his colleagues did.
In explaining the results of Nova to me, Dalstrom, now a sergeant with the Organized Crime Agency of B.C., said, "Nova showed the distinct networks of the Hells Angels and how their structures worked. For the first time, we were able to prove in court what we always said, the Angels are as much organized crime as the Mafia."
Realistically, Nova could have gone much further, but there was no more money. Said one of the investigators, "if the funding had been there we could have gone up the food chain. It's a lot less intensive to run an agent-based wire than to run a full-blown wire op. We control the agent and the meets. It takes money to play in this game and we didn't have it."
In fact, the agent, Molesberry, now in the witness protection program, made six hand-to-hand ounce-level cocaine purchases from the Angels. But when the agent couldn't come up with the money to make bigger purchases, the Angels determined he wasn't worth their time and handed him down to two "employees" further down in their network, losing the opportunity for the police to continue using the agent to make buys and climb the ladder of the organization. That's when they turned it into a full-blown wire/surveillance operation.
The officer shook his head at the irony of it. "We're the police and we couldn't afford to do business with them."
hunkahunka
14-02-2009, 04:38 AM
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Harley the Hog
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hunkahunka
14-02-2009, 05:35 AM
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Fort Steilacoom later became Western State mental hospital and hog farm
hunkahunka
14-02-2009, 06:57 AM
"One woman who declined to give her name said she has known the Pickton brothers for more than 10 years and often joined them for outings to a biker bar in Burnaby. The brothers rode Harley-Davidson motorcycles and mingled with biker gangs, she said."
B.C. police were told years ago of pig farm
Mother says she hopes they find bodies there
Saturday, February 9, 2002
By LEWIS KAMB AND MIKE BARBER
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTERS
PORT COQUITLAM, B.C. -- Lynn Frey has made the half-day trip countless times from her home in Campbell River on Vancouver Island to the avenues of British Columbia's biggest city.
For the past four years, she and her sister have braved the sleazy streets of Vancouver's Eastside tenderloin district, questioning the unfortunate women who haunt the streets, in a lonely search for Frey's troubled daughter.
About two years ago they began hearing from drug users and prostitutes who might have known Frey's daughter, Marnie, who was 24 when she disappeared in 1997. The bits and pieces of information seemed to point to an inconspicuous, muddy pig farm 22 miles out of town.
One of the men who lived at the farm was well-known to girls who work the streets, and in 1997 had been arrested for trying to kill a prostitute, she heard. It was a dirty place on a potholed road amid a blossoming bedroom community, the girls told her. It was a place many only heard about and refused to go to even though its hosts threw great parties, lest they be left with no way back to Vancouver, Frey recalls.
The stories resonated with Frey. The swampy farm was too close to home, blocks from the home of her own sister. The pig farm seemed eerie to both of them, she said.
"It was like a magnet," alternately attracting and repelling, she said.
Yet when Frey suggested that Vancouver police investigating the disappearances of dozens of missing women in recent years look at the place, her words seemed to fall on deaf ears. Her fading hopes were buoyed, though, when a joint police task force of Vancouver police and Royal Canadian Mounted Police was formed last year to look into the disappearances of 50 women in what is believed to be Canada's most prolific string of serial slayings.
Two days ago, Frey steeled her heart again.
"The task force called me (Wednesday) night to let me know there was going to be something on the media the next day," Frey said. "I thought nothing of it. I've been in touch with the police and called umpteen times in the last four years."
On Thursday, images of the pig farm flashed across television screens and newspaper pages as the task force searched the farm amid speculation of a major break in the case. Frey felt her heart soar, then crash.
"My heart went to my stomach," she said. "I hope this doesn't sound callous, I don't know how else to say it, but I am hoping -- I'm willing to believe -- that they will find bodies.
"Over the years you get your hopes up high to find her, only to have them drop like a falling elevator. I need closure now to carry on with my life. How many times can a mother do this?"
Mothers, fathers, family and friends of many of the missing women have driven to the farm now under police seal. Like Frey, they believe police waited too long to take their fears seriously. Some say they also alerted investigators to their suspicions and tips about one of the farmers, even as the list of missing women grew.
Two brothers, Robert William and David Francis Pickton, and their sister, Linda, own the farm where they grew up. They became wealthy, by some reports, by selling off parcels for development. Rows of townhouses border the north of the farm, a golf course flanks the east, where the nearby Pitt River flows toward the Fraser River. The brothers live on the last 10 acres.
Early yesterday, investigators could be seen shoveling dirt or manure mounds in a plank barn on the property near the confluence of the Fraser and Pitt rivers.
Robert Pickton, 52, was arrested Tuesday on three weapons violations after police served a search warrant on the pale yellow house. According to the Vancouver Sun, officers found identification cards and other personal items belonging to two missing women, prompting another search.
Pickton was released from custody Wednesday, but is due in court on Feb. 28. Police yesterday declined to say if they know where he is or whether he is under surveillance. Police also declined to call Pickton a suspect in the disappearances, saying only that he is among "hundreds" of people still under scrutiny.
Asked at a news conference about the criticism that Vancouver police bungled by not looking sooner at the Pickton farm, Detective Scott Driemel, spokesman for the department, said any information gathered years ago was "shared, and whatever could be acted upon was."
"We're not about to go back and defend ourselves for something that happened years ago," he said, adding that resource constraints and time needed to track thousands of leads complicated early investigation efforts. But authorities are now "aggressively pursuing the investigation," he said.
Other officials said they have been diligent, but it takes time to examine hundreds of tips to determine what was hearsay and what was legally actionable, and that it is difficult to track down prostitutes and drug users who live a transient lifestyle, often using different names.
While the list of 50 missing women dates back to 1983, most dropped out of sight in the 1990s, including 31 since 1997.
Last fall, the new task force said the missing persons cases were being treated as multiple homicides. While task force members have consulted King County investigators looking into the Green River slayings of 49 women -- many of them prostitutes -- between 1982 and 1984, police in both countries see no link.
Neighbors say Pickton and his younger brother, David, sometimes threw late night parties and pig roasts in a makeshift, unlicensed nightclub known as "Piggy's Palace."
Over the years, the brothers raised fewer pigs, instead selling fill-dirt and gravel from the farm and dabbling in building demolition, friends said.
One woman who declined to giver her name said she has known the brothers for more than 10 years and often joined them for outings to a biker bar in Burnaby. The brothers rode Harley-Davidson motorcycles and mingled with biker gangs, she said.
She described David Pickton as generous and friendly, but said "Willy" was creepy.
"He kind of kept to himself, hanging out back there in the piggery all the time," she said.
Willy, a tall, thin man with a halo of long and curly dirty blond hair, once showed the woman how he boiled pigs in a large vat, she said.
"It kind of freaked me out," she said.
Friends and relatives of the missing women say they became aware of Robert Pickton after his name surfaced in 1997, when a prostitute and drug addict accused him of trying to stab her to death during an encounter at the farm in 1997. Pickton was charged with attempted murder, aggravated assault and unlawful confinement, but charges were later dropped. The woman, who had run screaming from the farm in handcuffs, reportedly refused to testify. Her whereabouts is unknown.
Those who know Pickton, who was also seriously wounded during the incident, have a different version of the attack. They say a prostitute pulled a knife and tried to rob Pickton, slashing him across the chin.
Yet those who tried to point police toward the farm over the years believe authorities missed their chance to stop the disappearances.
"They dropped the ball on this," said Wayne Leng, a B.C. native who now lives in California. His friend, Sarah deVries, is one of the missing women. He said he first told Vancouver police about a pig farmer known as "Willy" in mid-1998, after a man told him about an assault of a prostitute, and of finding women's clothing and identification at the farm.
"I think that more women would be alive today if they would have acted sooner," Leng said yesterday.
That authorities knew of tips and Pickton's past run-ins with the law years ago, but did not key in on the pig farmer until now "really pisses me off," said Carrie Kerr, a 28-year-old Maple Ridge woman whose sister went missing in 1997.
When Kerr's older sister, Helen Hallmark, a drug user and known prostitute, didn't show up for Christmas that year, "we knew something was wrong," Kerr said. "They knew about this guy for years, and they didn't do anything about it," she said. "How many women are dead now because of it?"
Frey, meanwhile, wonders what might have happened to her daughter. The tale of Marnie's slide into prostitution, and the battles to save her, is a familiar one to the victims' families she has met.
"Marnie was a very loving person. If a stranger walking down a street needed 50 cents and that was all she had, she'd give the last 50 cents in her pocket," her mother said.
"Marnie got mixed up with the wrong people, started doing cocaine, then heroin. She was 19 or 20 when it started. When she got on heroin, she went to the streets of Vancouver to support her heroin habit, and started living that life. We couldn't stop her."
Frey said her daughter, however, worried about her family and called several times a week to let them know she was OK. That stopped almost five years ago.
Frey and her husband, Dean, a commercial fisherman, kept their doors open to their daughter and waged a battle over the years for her life.
She came back home several times, thin, sick, vomiting, determined to clean the toxins from her body.
Once she made it into drug treatment in Victoria.
Always she bolted in less than a week, surrendering to heroin. Marnie's body would ache from withdrawal, her mother said, the shakes, vomiting, her bones aching. Her family's heart ached, too.
"The doors were never closed and they still are not," her mother said.
hunkahunka
14-02-2009, 02:45 PM
"In June, Dave Pickton was notified that the Crown was seeking to subpoena him for this trial, but that never happened. At the time, Dave Pickton told reporters he had more important things to do anyway – specifically, attending a biker rally in South Dakota."
Pickton 'was kind of Mom's boy'
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/281989
Dec 03, 2007 04:30 AM
Rosie DiManno
NEW WESTMINSTER, B.C. - On a lovely fall evening, a 14-year-old boy was hit by a truck as he walked alongside a rural road.
The driver of that red GMC, himself only 16 and just recently having acquired a driver's licence, was understandably horrified. In a panic – leaving the victim there, still alive – he fled home and blurted to his mother what happened.
That woman, as a family friend later told author Stevie Cameron, was Louise Pickton, domineering and tough-minded mother of Robert "Willie" Pickton – the 58-year-old pig butcher who now awaits a jury's verdict on six first-degree murder charges.
Dave Pickton was the truck driver, younger and purportedly much more clever brother of the accused. And Louise Pickton, as portrayed in The Pickton File – indeed, as suggested by occasional references during this 10-month trial – was one formidable matriarch, two decades younger than a husband who seemed only peripherally involved in the upbringing of their three children.
Willie Pickton, it's claimed, actually recounted this story in later years: How his mom drove to the spot where the injured boy lay, checked him over, then leaned down to push and roll the youth into a ditch, some 10 feet distant. Then she went back home.
A coroner's report provided to the Star concluded the youth – Tim Barrett – drowned. While seriously injured when slammed by the vehicle, those traumas, a fractured pelvis and sub-cranial hemorrhage, would not have caused death.
Louise Pickton was never charged in connection with the incident. Dave Pickton's juvenile file remains sealed. And Willie Pickton, well, he was just a household observer to events.
It is irresistible to wonder, however, how the dynamics of the Pickton family helped forge his character, growing up on what was then an isolated farm, the most lumpen of the Pickton spawn. Like "two peas in a pod," Pickton told investigators of he and his mom. "Cranky" and "different" as sister Linda described Willie in a 2002 interview with the Vancouver Sun.
"Robert, he just adored Mom. He and Mom were so close. Robert was never close to Dad. Robert was kind of Mom's boy."
Courtroom testimony has been contradictory about Pickton's persona, variously described as kindly and contemptuous towards sex-trade workers, either a frequent client or someone with a dim libido.
In fact – apart from what the Crown has alleged Pickton did to the six drug-addicted prostitutes he's accused of murdering and dismembering – a history of violence against women has more quantifiably been mounted against little brother Dave: convicted in '93 of sexual assault and investigated in '98 over another assault.
While earlier telling police that each of her limbs had been tied to a corner of the bed with a bungee cord, and pills shoved into her mouth, the woman afterwards refused to testify against Dave in court and the investigation was dropped.
Dave Pickton remains, police have told court, a "person of interest" in this case, but there was never enough evidence against the man to justify charges.
He's never agreed to be formally interviewed.
In June, Dave Pickton was notified that the Crown was seeking to subpoena him for this trial, but that never happened. At the time, Dave Pickton told reporters he had more important things to do anyway – specifically, attending a biker rally in South Dakota.
This jury has heard that Dave Pickton had "disdain" for prostitutes. Unlike Willie, Dave had girlfriends, even a long-time common-law spouse who came to live on the farm when she was 17 – pitching in to help with the chores, as commanded by Mama Pickton.
Mama's dead. Papa's dead. Neither Dave nor Linda has ever attended Willie's trial.
Rosie DiManno usually appears Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday.
hunkahunka
14-02-2009, 04:14 PM
Defence witness Bill Malone says he built the Pickton nightclub, Piggy's Palace, to rival any club in big city Vancouver. "We put in a sound system that was comparable to any club in Vancouver," Malone testified. "We built proper stages, we brought in everything .. It would have the full atmosphere of any nightclub." .. Parties would be thrown five to six times a year between 1995 and 1998, hosting between 325 and 600 people. "We had turkey, roast beef, we had any buffet-style menu you would find at any big restaurant," Malone said. Roasted pig was also served. "From pigs that Robert would buy at the auction and butcher," Malone said. "And then Pat [Casanova] would barbecue them." "It was a rough crowd" at Piggy's Palace, said Brian, a musician who played there a few years ago with the hard-rock band South City Slam .. "Even the women were tough- looking -- a lot of leather and denim .. he hooked up with Dave Pickton when the now-defunct band played at the South City Club in New Westminster .. The crowd at Piggy's Palace often included men wearing Hells Angels biker club colours .. "The people who came all seemed to know one another." .. The City of Port Coquitlam .. attempted, but failed, to get a court order in 1996 to force the Picktons and their Piggy's Palace Good Times Society to cease throwing parties on the property. The society was incorporated in 1996 with five directors, including the Picktons, and was dissolved in January 2000 for failing to file annual statements .. "I wasn't really keen on spending New Year's Eve on a pig farm, but the money was good," Brian said. He made about $500 a night .. The dances would usually start with a roast pork dinner about 8 p.m. The band would start about 9:30 p.m. and play until 1 or later. Among those who attended parties at Piggy's Palace was Port Coquitlam Mayor Scott Young .. He described the party as a "getting to know you" event put on by people living in the area."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YqOjIm1rNQ
hunkahunka
15-02-2009, 12:31 AM
very comprehensive news feature in today's Globe and Mail
re: the notorious crack whore district of East Vancouver where
the Hells Angels are claiming most of their pig murder victims:
video:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090211.wvdteslehmannvid1/VideoStory/thefix/?pid=RTGAM.20090209.wdtes_money0209
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/v5/content/series/thefix/images/dtesmap532.png
link to feature:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/thefix/
hunkahunka
15-02-2009, 02:08 PM
This latest find on Pickton victim and prostitute Stephanie Lane having stripped at a club (no. 5 Orange) owned by the Hells Angels in Vancouver, Canada reminds me of another identical case in Australia involving a stripper, Hells Angels, a car salvage yard/hog farm, and a mulcher.
A bit of background on how I found out about this other case in Australia.
Regarding the Pickton case, there has been much discussion about how there must have been others involved, as the Pickton brothers held giant Hells Angels parties in their dance hall barn called Piggy Palace, and how all the girls killed were junky prostitutes associated with the drug traffic that the bikers were all connected with, etc., and how most of the women killed were in the process of trying to leave the streets.
At Pickton's trial, the farm was described as a 'hive of activity', in fact the brothers ran several businesses simultaneously from it, not to mention its use as a general biker party house/hangout. Yet at this 'hive of activity',
we are to believe that the often inebriated Pickton, described by his own defense team as being of low intelligence, was able to secretly abduct, rape, torture, murder , mutilate and then mulch at least 49 women, ALONE, without any one else around the place knowing about it. Three severed heads were found in a fridge, cut in half, along with hands and feet.
I began to suspect that these killings were the work of an organized network
and that mulching bodies and feeding them to pigs would be an extremely efficient means of completely disposing of bodies. (Pigs even eat the bones) and looked for any more reported cases of bodies being fed to pigs. I found this story of a stripper in Australia who was
tortured and raped by Hells Angels in an almost identical setting:
Monday, July 16, 2007
Woman Claims Hells Angels To Blame For Five days of rape & Torture
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yN-8fRG8l0g/RpsVWMohYsI/AAAAAAAAAEs/Y-3fSTALpZI/s1600/DHLOGO2.gifA SENIOR Hells Angels bikie has been accused of leading a gang that raped and tortured a Melbourne woman in a cruel, five-day abduction.
The woman, 39, said she had spent seven years on the run from the gang after they dragged her into a car from a Coburg street in May 2000 and used her as a sex slave.
"Michelle" has alleged a prime figure in the pack rapes was a senior office holder of the Hells Angels.
"I thought they were going to kill me," she said.
"They gave me two choices: a single bullet to the head if I was good or, if not, they would put me through the mincer and then feed me to the pigs."
Despite her complaint to police in December 2001, the case and the alleged culprits have never been prosecuted.
She believes up to 15 men raped and tortured her over five days.
Michelle came forward about her brutal treatment at the hands of the Hells Angels after the CBD shootings on June 18.
The trauma of the attack left her suicidal and in fear of her life.
In September 2004, Michelle, who went to police 18 months after the alleged offences, was awarded crime compensation of $7500.
She still needs counselling.
The tribunal was satisfied an offence occurred even though it could not be prosecuted.
The Hells Angel accused of leading the assault is a member of the East County chapter, which is based in Craigieburn.
This is the chapter where Collingwood footballer Alan Didak is believed to have been taken by accused CBD gunman Christopher Wayne Hudson.
Hudson is not linked in any way to the allegations raised by Michelle.
Since the alleged attacks, Michelle has lived at a secret location, changed her name, and has been too scared to have contact with her children.
In her statement to police, the former stripper says her ordeal began as she walked to the Coburg Leisure Centre and a group of men forced her into a car and drove her to a suite at one of Melbourne's top hotels.
Michelle said she was paraded naked in front of at least six men and then taken to a bedroom and raped by the senior Hells Angel and another man.
She told police that up to two days later she was moved to a yard in Melbourne's northern suburbs and chained and handcuffed in a large shed.
There she lay naked on a concrete floor and was tortured and sexually assaulted for days.
Apart from the several sexual assaults, she stated she had a gun forced down her mouth, and was made to perform sex acts with a dog.
Her torture also included having a steel truck gate placed across her legs before being run over by a ute while her attackers laughed.
Her toe was later cut off with an angle grinder and sealed with a blow torch to stop the bleeding.
Michelle said she was fed a base form of drugs while held captive, and she would never forget the men, their tattooed bodies and the AC/DC song played throughout her ordeal - Thunderstruck.
She said she was about to be killed when taken to a caravan park in Campbellfield, where she was rescued by a disgruntled gang member who took pity on her.
The pair fled and eventually headed north in a stolen car before being caught by police.
Michelle pleaded guilty to theft of a motor car, handling stolen goods, possession and use of cannabis and possession of a regulated weapon.
The rapes and bashings left her with hepatitis C, a fractured skull, an injured spine and shoulder, no feeling in her left foot and cracked and missing teeth.
She uses a walking stick because for months after the assault she was too scared to seek medical attention.
A psychological report states she suffers depression, post-traumatic stress disorder and could expect a short life span because of the assaults.
A police source with years of experience investigating outlaw bikie activity has told the Herald Sun that women kept captive in clubhouses were called a "house mouse" by gang members.
He said women were usually chosen for pack rape after getting to know a member.
Police are investigating if five members of the notorious Black Uhlans motorcycle gang-raped a woman, 19, at Lakes Entrance in February.
Michelle said she did not know the men who assaulted her before her abduction, but she believed they knew she was a stripper.
"I can't imagine any human being being in that frame of mind," she said.
"I can't imagine Hells Angels Australia-wide all being like that.
"I haven't been able to have contact with my children. I can't live a normal life.
"We (she and her partner) can't visit family whenever we feel like it. You start to get over the post-traumatic stress and then you see them on the news or making headlines for all the wrong reasons.
"I live in fear on a daily basis. I have to watch where I go. I try never ever to be alone."
No Hells Angels were charged over the alleged assaults. Michelle has made assertions of police corruption regarding officers who dealt with her case.
The case was investigated by the police Ethical Standards Department and the Office of Police Integrity.
But investigators found there was no evidence of corruption and there was not enough evidence for a successful prosecution.
The bikie accused of leading the attack on Michelle said through a worker at his company he was not interested in speaking to the Herald Sun.
Source: Herald-Sun
This stripper reported being abducted, held captive, and raped in 2000 by Hells Angels who threatened to put her through a mulcher alive and feed her to the pigs. This happened in Australia, but the interesting part is that this was reported to the police in 2001, and this would have been two years before Pickton was even charged in Canada, with exactly the same crime, so it is not possible that these Australian Hells Angels were simply copying something that they heard about Hells Angels (Pickton brothers) doing in Canada, nor is it possible that the woman concocted the story based on something she'd heard about the Vancouver case.
Quote:
She told police that up to two days later she was moved to a yard in Melbourne's northern suburbs and chained and handcuffed in a large shed. There she lay naked on a concrete floor and was tortured and sexually assaulted for days. Apart from the several sexual assaults, she stated she had a gun forced down her mouth, and was made to perform sex acts with a dog. Her torture also included having a steel truck gate placed across her legs before being run over by a ute while her attackers laughed.
Her toe was later cut off with an angle grinder and sealed with a blow torch to stop the bleeding.
Even more parallels here: These Australian Hells Angels tortured her in a shed and the metal cutting tools (grinder and blow torch) and truck gate she was tortured with in the shed describe the setting as a chop-shop or car salvage operation with pigs and a mulcher also on the property.
Sounds like the Pickton farm:
Quote:
http://www.thestar.com/article/255636
The Pickton brothers also ran a demolition and car-salvage business on the property.
"When Dave started dumping it got messy with cars and it was just a mess with old machines. It was just a junk collection in the end."
Could there be any more similarities than this? Hells Angels
rape a stripper at a 'yard' on the edge of the city, in what appears to be
a car salvage/chop shop shed, and threaten to mulch her alive and feed her to pigs:
Port Coquitlam? No. Australia! And this happened before anyone else had even heard of the Pickton brothers and Piggy Palace.
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Now, either these guys had their own mulcher and pigs, or ....
they were thinking of taking her to Canada, to a certain farm in
Vancouver.
btw, the Australian stripper reported having 'a gun forced down her mouth',
while a gun with a penis shaped dildo covering the barrel was discovered
on the Pickton farm.
hunkahunka
15-02-2009, 04:02 PM
The Hog Farm is an organization considered to be America's longest running hippie commune. With beginnings as an actual collective hog farm in Tujunga, California, the group, founded in the 1960s by Wavy Gravy, evolved into a "mobile, hallucination-extended family", active internationally in both music and politics.
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Wavy Gravy - activist, clown and frozen dessert - founder of the hippie commune "The Hog Farm."
The Hog Farm is perhaps best known for their involvement with the Woodstock Music Festival. While lodging on Manhattan's East Side from 1968-69, the Farm was approached by Woodstock Ventures with a proposal — participate in a planned music festival in upstate New York. Although the Farm had just bought land in Llano, New Mexico (near Truchas, New Mexico) and the commune had plans to depart New York City and settle in Llano, they accepted the offer to become involved with Woodstock. Recruited to build fire pits and trails on the festival grounds at Woodstock, the Hog Farm convinced the promoter to let them set up a free kitchen as well.
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Just prior to Woodstock, the Hog Farm attended the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago. At the convention, the Farm and Abbie Hoffman presented a satirical presidential candidate, a pig named Pigasus, who remained with the Hog Farm after the convention. Upon returning to New York, they were met by the world press at John F. Kennedy International Airport and told for the first time that they had also been assigned the task of providing security at Woodstock.
Gravy called his rather unorthodox security force the "Please Force," a reference to their non-intrusive tactics at keeping order ("please don't do that, please do this instead"). When asked by the press what kind of tools he intended to use to maintain order at the event, his instant response was "Cream pies and seltzer bottles."
Other projects
Shortly after Woodstock, the Hog Farmers helped keep the peace between the cowboys and the hippies at the Texas Pop Festival, where blues giant B. B. King gave Wavy Gravy his name.
Recruited by San Francisco underground radio pioneer Tom Donahue and Warner Brothers Records to travel around the country and be filmed for a movie called Cruising for Burgers, later renamed Medicine Ball Caravan, the Hog Farmers bused themselves across America, setting up stages for mainstream rock artists. Finally, in 1970 after a concert with Pink Floyd in Bishopsbourne, England, the Farmers pooled their movie salaries (and some funds raised for them from a benefit staged by a London commune) and continued their trek across Europe, and into India.
In 1978, the Hog Farm assisted in the founding of the Seva Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to alleviating suffering caused by disease and poverty.
[edit] Later years
Today, the Hog Farm is still in existence, with various locations including a headquarters in Berkeley, California, and a 200+ acre farm in Laytonville, California, known as Black Oak Ranch -- also home to Wavy Gravy's performing arts camp for children, Camp Winnarainbow. Black Oak plays host to several music festivals each year, most of which operate in support of charitable causes. One such event was the annual Hog Farm Family Pig-Nic, which has featured performances by artists such as Ben Harper, Spearhead, and others. In recent years the Kate Wolf Memorial Music Festival and Earthdance festivals have been held there.
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hunkahunka
16-02-2009, 04:53 AM
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Wavy Gravy (born Hugh Nanton Romney on May 15, 1936)
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In 1965, when Wavy Gravy and his wife (then known as Bonnie Jean) were living in a one-room cabin in Sunland, California outside Los Angeles, they and 40 of their closest friends in the Grateful Dead and the Merry Pranksters (Kesey was on the lam in Mexico at the time) posed for a photograph for a Life magazine cover. "The landlord went ballistic," Wavy recalls, "and we were bummed for about an hour and a half until a neighbor came by and said, 'Old Saul up on that mountain had a stroke and they need somebody to slop them hogs!’ So we were given a mountain top rent-free for slopping 45 hogs." Thus was born the Hog Farm, soon to hit the road in buses purchased with money earned as extras in Otto Preminger's Skidoo, presenting the free "Hog Farm and Friends in Open Celebration" show all over the country.
Each summer, Camp Winnarainbow conducts four two-week sessions for kids, a one-week introductory session for seven-year-old novices, and a one-week session for grownups. Volunteer teachers share such skills as juggling, unicycling, tightrope walking, and trapeze, as well as music and art. A lot of the kids who are running the camp now started as campers when they were seven.They can usually do it on a unicycle while juggling three balls. We curry both hemispheres of the E brain. In school, kids learn numbers and letters; we teach timing and balance, which I think is equally important – without competition, except with yourself."
Camp Winnarainbow's concept of practice embraces so much more than physical skills. Mornings begin with Wavy reading from something like the Tao Te Ching or Everything I Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten, and then the kids choose between high-intensity aerobics or yoga for their warm-ups. "I've also in the last five years discovered that kids will do anything if they can stay up later than other kids, even sit with a straight back and watch their breath. So we instituted WISE Gaias. WISE is Winnarainbow Inner Space Exploration. Three or four years ago we created a labyrinth for Jose Arguelles’s Dreamspell ceremony. They leave their problems at the center of the labyrinth and come out pretty clean."
Thanks to royalties from the Ben & Jerry's Wavy Gravy ice cream flavor and grants from the Grateful Dead's Rex Foundation, Winnarainbow is able to provide camp scholarships for homeless children from the Bay Area and Native American kids from a reservation in South Dakota. That assures what Wavy calls "a little diverse miniworld."
Courtney Love appeared on the back of the album
sleave for the Grateful Dead album titled: AOXOMOXOA (1969)
http://www.connollyco.com/discography/grateful_dead/aoxomoxoa_hi.jpg
Front
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/moe1982/aoxomoxoa.jpg
back (Courtney Love is the little girl at the bottom right, 5 years old)
Courtney's father was Grateful Dead manager Hank Harrison
hunkahunka
16-02-2009, 06:57 AM
I found this interview with Ralph "Sonny" Barger, former President of the Oakland Hells Angels chapter where he discussed his relationship with Grateful Dead head man Jerry Garcia:
Interviewer:
What about the late Grateful Dead guitarist Jerry Garcia?
Sonny Barger:
Jerry Garcia was a very good friend of mine. Jerry and I got along well, Jerry and the club got along well. I love Jerry's 60s music; I didn't like Jerry's 90s music. I would go to a concert and he would get the band to play a song just for me and I'd say, "Jerry it stinks, you got to go back," and he would get so mad."
I would imagine the Grateful Dead and the Hells Angels got along for one main reason and that is that the band gave respect to the Hells Angels. From what I have read it sort of began when Hells Angels member Chocolate George, a much loved Angel got killed, the Grateful Dead & Big Brother & The Holding Company did a memorial show in Haight Ashbury for Chocolate George back around '66 or '67. (Big Brother did many a HA benefit show. The cover of Cheap Thrills has the HAMC emblem and the words "approved by Hells Angels" on it.)
They liked each other, who knows why
hunkahunka
16-02-2009, 07:14 AM
Grateful Dead's Jerry Garcia financed the making of the 1983 film, Hells Angels Forever
video:
http://hollywood.premiere.com/video/movies/Hells_Angels_Forever/#43014
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_3AjBCUj24&feature=related
hunkahunka
16-02-2009, 03:10 PM
apparently the creation of The Beatles was a psy-op..
to understand how Beatlemania was manufactured, one need only watch
the opening of this film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkKra3_pfBY
This hysteria was carefully crafted, staged, and nurtured, and not just for the movie. imo, the whole thing was staged from the beginning, and the film opening here just proves how easily it could be done.
Just like the Laurel Canyon scene was propelled by the well orchestrated 'Carl and Vito gypsy freaks dancers' showing up and going nuts at every staged event, Beatlemania must have been a similarly prepared phenomenon.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010124080100/http://www.illuminati-news.com/20-20.htm
Thursday, December 8 at 10 PM EST, the 20th anniversary of the date
former Beatle John Lennon was gunned down on a New York City street,
20/20 will air a segment which focuses in part on Lennon's killer,
Mark David Chapman.
NewsHawk has previously published several articles which made note
of the fact that Chapman was without ANY doubt a CIA-trained
MK-ULTRA style mind-controlled, "Manchurian Candidate" assassin.
We made note of the fact that in the course of being interviewed by
Playboy magazine in 1980, Lennon made comments on certain subjects
(many of which were not included in the published interview) which
undoubtedly caught the attention of the CIA, as well as that of its
former director, then vice-president-elect GEORGE BUSH.
In speaking with Playboy, Lennon referred a number of times to his
knowledge of the fact that certain drugs -- such as LSD as well as
more toxic hard drugs like heroin and cocaine -- had been spread
throughout society as a whole and in particular the counterculture,
for the express purpose of trying to bring about social chaos and a
general breakdown in society.
He ALSO indicated his awareness that the Beatles themselves had
literally been subjected to mind experimentation with respect to
certain drugs they were induced to use; and further conveyed that he
knew the Beatles and the entire "Beatlemania" phenomenon were to
SOME extent at least just another aspect of some VERY wide-scale,
globalist "social engineering and experimentation.
The Beatles were part of the mass experimentation that contemporary
society was being subjected to by the CIA, Britain's MI6 and the
associated "Tavistock Institute."
More than most of the other boys in the band, John Lennon had become
increasingly aware of the extent of corruption, co-opting and
infiltration of the counterculture -- most CERTAINLY including the
rock music scene -- by these same covert government intelligence
elements.
In short; John Lennon blew the lid off a lot of heavy stuff, even
if somewhat obliquely, and even though the final published version
was heavily edited.
Believe me, CIA personnel know how to read between the lines. You
can bet George Bush knew how to as well.
It was quite clear Lennon had become aware of the extent to which
the Beatles, their music and the entire Beatlemania phenomenon was
to at LEAST some degree a manipulated, contrived global social
event, along with the simultaneous deliberate introduction of
virtually unlimited quantities of certain mind-altering drugs into
society.
And, here's are a few very CLEAR indications that there is
DEFINITELY a CIA/Bush connection to the John Lennon assassination.
A little over three months after Lennon was murdered,
newly-inaugurated President Ronald Reagan was shot and nearly killed
by John Hinckley, in New York City, again.
Hinckley's father, a Denver resident, is a CLOSE personal friend of
George Bush, Sr. and some other members of the Bush Empire "inner
circle," including son and convicted criminal Neil Bush and as-yet
un-convicted sons Jeb and Dubb-o.
For several weeks before attempting to assassinate Reagan, Hinckley
prowled the streets of New York.
HINCKLEY followed as exactly as he possibly could EVERY SINGLE MOVE
that Mark David CHAPMAN had made, in the days before CHAPMAN
murdered John Lennon.
Even MORE bizarre: at the time of their respective arrests following
both shooting incidents, John Hinckley AND Mark David Chapman were
each carrying on their person a paperback copy of the J.D. Salinger
novel, "CATCHER IN THE RYE." (AS did the MK-Ultra mind-controlled
assassin "Jerry" played by Mel Gibson in the surprisingly revealing
movie "Conspiracy Theory".)
J.D. Salinger, certainly a gifted author, had SUBSTANTIAL and
enduring ties to the U.S. intelligence community; in particular, the
CIA. Was the book originally intended to be a mind-control
programming tool? It's hard to say, but not inconceivable.
SO: Hinckley traced Chapman's footsteps, as it were, in an
incredibly eerie AND incredibly REVEALING, scripted tableau; which
culminated, as it did with Chapman, in mind-controlled Manchurian
Candidate assassin Hinckley shooting his prey on the New York City
streets.
Which indeed, brings up yet a FURTHER point.
Hinckley FIRST CAME to New York WELL BEFORE his attempt to
assassinate Reagan, in order to prepare himself for his assigned
role by imitating Chapman's moves and actions of a few months
before.
SO: HOW did Hinckley KNOW, several weeks BEFORE-hand, that Reagan
was going to be at the place in New York City were Hinckley would
shoot him, AND the DAY and TIME Reagan would be there??
SOMEBODY on the "INSIDE," who knew Reagan's schedule some time in
advance, positioned Hinckley in New York well before the date of the
attempted assassination of Reagan.
Somebody like George BUSH, Sr., maybe? Trying to get a jump on
taking over as President? Or, or maybe just sending ol' Ronnie a
VERY strong, clear message about who the "boss" really was...
The "rock stars" are also totally artificial media creations. Their public image, as well as their music, is fabricated from behind the scenes by controllers. For example, when the Beatles first arrived in the United States in 1964, they were mobbed at the airport by hundreds of screaming teenage girls. The national press immediately announced that "Beatlemania" had besieged the U.S.A. But the girls had all been transported from a girl's school in the Bronx, and paid for their screaming performance by the Beatles' promoters.
The money of the 1960s rock groups, which in somes cases mounted to hundreds of millions of dollars, was also totally under the control of mob-connected promoters. From 1963 to 1970, the Rolling Stones made over $200 million, yet the group's members were all nearly bankrupt. None of them had any idea of where their money went.
Between 1963 and 1964 the Beatles and the Rolling Stones laid siege to Western European and American culture. This two-pronged invasion from England was well-planned and well-timed. America had just suffered the shock of the assassination of President John Kennedy, while in the streets the mass-based civil rights movement had just held a Washington, D.C. rally, led by Martin Luther King, of 500,000 people. The rock counterculture would be used as a weapon to destroy such political movements.
Creating the Beatles
The Beatles first began performing in the late 1950s in jazz clubs in England and West Germany. These clubs, always located in the seediest part of the cities, served as a marketplace for prostitution and the circulation of drugs. Beatle biographer Philip Norman writes: "Their only regular engagement was a strip club. The club owner paid them ten shillings each to strum their guitars while a stripper named Janice grimly shed her clothes before an audience of sailors, guilty businessmen and habitues with raincoat- covered laps."
The Beatles got their first big break in Germany, in August 1960, when they obtained a booking at a jazz club in Hamburg's notorious Reeperbahn district. Describing the area Norman writes it had, "red-lit windows containing whores in every type of fancy dress, all ages from nymphet to granny...Everything was free. Everything was easy. The sex was easy... Here it came after you."
Far from the picture of innocence, the Beatles, even in their first performances, were always high on a drug called Preludin, "John (Lennon), would be foaming at the mouth, he'd have so many pills inside him...John, began to go berserk on stage, prancing and groveling...The fact that the audience could not understand a word he said, provoked John into cries of `Sieg Heil!' and `Fucking Nazis' to which the audience invariably responded by laughing and clapping."
Off the stage, the Beatles were just as evil. Norman continues, "while in Hamburg, John, each Sunday would stand on the balcony, taunting the churchgoers as they walked to St. Joseph's. He attached a water-filled contraceptive to an effigy of Jesus and hung it out for the churchgoers to see. Once he urinated on the heads of three nuns."
While in Hamburg, in June of 1962 the Beatles received a telegram from their manager, a homosexual named Brian Epstein, who was back in England. "Congratulations," Epstein's message read. "EMI requests a recording session." EMI was one of Europe's largest record producers, and their role in promoting the Beatles would be key in the future.
Under the the strict guidance of EMI's recording director George Martin, and Brian Epstein, the Beatles were scrubbed, washed, and their hair styled into the Beatles cut. EMI's Martin created the Beatles in his recording studio.
Martin was a trained classical musician, and had studied the oboe and piano at the London School of Music. The Beatles could neither read music nor play any instrument other than guitar. For Martin, the Beatles musicianship was a bad joke. On their first hit record, "Love Me Do," Martin replaced Ringo on the drums with a studio musician. Martin said Ringo, "couldn't do a [drum] roll to save his life." From then on, Martin would take the simple little tunes the Beatles would come to him with, and turn them into hit records.
Lockwood and EMI
EMI, led by aristocrat Sir Joseph Lockwood, stands for Electrical and Mechanical Instruments, and is one of Britain's largest producers of military electronics. Martin was director of EMI's subsidiary, Parlophone. By the mid-sixties EMI, now called Thorn EMI, created a music divison which had grown to 74,321 employees and had annual sales of $3.19 billion.
EMI was also a key member of Britain's military intelligence establishment.
After the war, in 1945, EMI's European production head Walter Legge virtually took over control of classical music recordings, signing up dozens of starving German classical musicians and singers to EMI contracts. Musicians who sought to preserve the performance tradition of Beethoven and Brahms, were relegated to obscurity while "ex-Nazi" Party members were promoted. Legge signed and recorded Nazi member, the late Herbert Von Karajan, promoting him to superstar status, while great conductors such as Wilhelm Furtwangler were ignored.
From the beginning, EMI created the myth of the Beatles' great popularity. In August of 1963, at their first major television appearance at the London Palladium, thousands of their fans supposedly rioted. The next day every mass-circulation newspaper in Great Britain carried a front page picture and story stating, "Police fought to hold back 1,000 squealing teenagers." Yet, the picture displayed in each newspaper was cropped so closely that only three or four of the "squealing teenagers" could be seen. The story was a fraud. According to a photographer on the scene, "There were no riots. I was there. We saw eight girls, even less than eight."
In February 1964, the Beatles myth hit the United States, complete with the orchestrated riots at Kennedy Airport, previously mentioned. To launch their first tour, the media created one of the largest mass audiences in history. For an unprecedented two Sundays in a row, on the Ed Sullivan Show, over 75 million Americans watched the Beatles shake their heads and sway their bodies in a ritual which was soon to be replicated by hundreds of future rock groups.
On returning to England, the Beatles were rewarded by the British aristocracy they served so well . In October 1965, the four were inducted into the Order of Chivalry, and were personally awarded the accolade of Member of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth at Buckingham palace
A hippie commune called the Hog Farm, had a special role at Woodstock. The Hog Farm was led by a man nicknamed Wavy Graver, who was a former member of Ken Kesey's MK-Ultra operation, the Merry Pranksters. Communes like the Hog Farm were commonly found in the remote parts of California and served as the breeding grounds for Satanic cults, as well as terrorist groups. Members of these communes continually interchanged with other communes and were the recruiting grounds for the Process Church and Manson. Hog Farm member Diane Lake was a member of Charles Manson's Family, at the time of the massacre of Sharon Tate and her guests.
above excerpts from: Satanism, Rock Music and MK Ultra Mind Control
http://enjoyingthejourney.blogspot.com/2009/01/satanism-rock-music-and-mk-ultra-mind.html
grachtengordel
16-02-2009, 03:51 PM
to understand how Beatlemania was manufactured, one need only watch
the opening of this film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkKra3_pfBY
strange, when I view this post the youtube link is not visible, the words read "this film" so I quoted to see if the link was there. sure enough the link is visible when i quote 'Hunkahunka' but hidden in his post.
???????????
edit - it's there now
and yes the 'beetles' was totally a psy op to feed us infantile derivative garbage and convince us all that we must love it and adulate these muppets
and Hunkahunka, thanks for more info, keep up the good work here mate. 'soulja' too
this thread has so much good quality info, it's a nasty topic so hats off to those brave enough to face researching the twisted practices that are destroying mankind, if we let 'em that is. and first you must KNOW your enemy.
the grateful dead/laurel canyon info is mindblowing, the hells angels i'm not surprised, never liked that lot of posers and all round failures, something about all male secret societies , seems kinda gay
hunkahunka
16-02-2009, 03:55 PM
The Age of Aquarius
The largest concert after Monterey Pop, the "Woodstock Music and Art Fair," would be what Time magazine celebrated as an "Aquarian Festival"' and "history's largest happening." The term "Aquarian" was carefully chosen. The Aquarian age signified that the "Age of Pisces," which is the age of Christ, had come to an end.
At Woodstock, a small town in upstate New York, nearly half a million youth gathered to be drugged and brainwashed on a farm. The victims were isolated, immersed in filth, pumped with psychedelic drugs, and kept awake continously for three straight days, and all with the full complicity of the FBI and government officials. Security for the concert was provided by a hippie commune trained in the mass distribution of LSD.
Once again, it would be the networks of British military intelligence which would be the initiators. Woodstock was the brain child of Artie Kornfeld, the director of EMI's Capitol Record's, Contemporary Projects Division. The original funding was provided by the heir of a large Pennsylvania-based pharmaceutical company, John Roberts, and two other partners. It was another pharmaceutical company, the Swiss-based Sandoz Laboratories, which had first synthesized LSD. Roberts would later be accused of using his company for the mass drugging of the attendees.
Little adequate preparations were made for the nearly half a million people who came. Joel Rosenman, one of the three partners, writes, as the concert neared, "Food and water were clearly going to be in short supply, sanitary facilities overtaxed, tempers short, drugs overabundant. Worst of all, there was no way for anyone who wanted to, to leave." Sitting in your own excrement was actually part of the plan, as John Roberts jokingly wrote, "We're going to hand out bananas at the gate to bind our patrons."
A hippie commune called the Hog Farm, had a special role at Woodstock. The Hog Farm was led by a man nicknamed Wavy Graver, who was a former member of Ken Kesey's MK-Ultra operation, the Merry Pranksters. Communes like the Hog Farm were commonly found in the remote parts of California and served as the breeding grounds for Satanic cults, as well as terrorist groups. Members of these communes continually interchanged with other communes and were the recruiting grounds for the Process Church and Manson. Hog Farm member Diane Lake was a member of Charles Manson's Family, at the time of the massacre of Sharon Tate and her guests.
On August 14, one day before the scheduled opening, the entire festival security force, comprised of 350 off-duty New York City cops, pulled out. A spokesman for the New York police claimed that no official arrangement was ever made with the city, a claim the promoters vehemently denied. In an August 15, 1969 New York Times article, the head of Woodstock's security said, "Now I don't have any security at all. I've been struck. We're having the biggest collection of kids there's ever been in this country without any police protection." Not surprisingly, the Hog Farm was put in charge of security.
Woodstock funder and director John Roberts, openly admitted that he was well aware of the Hog Farm's connection to drug distribution. He writes, "their fee was simply transportation to and from the festival... a peace-keeping force that looked, talked, and smelled like the crowd would be both highly credible and highly effective... and the most important, they were wise in the ways of drugs, knowing good acid from bad, good trips from bummers, good medicine from poison, etc."
The Hog Farm at the time was living in New Mexico's mountains. Roberts chartered a Boeing 727, at a cost of $17,000, and flew 100 of them to New York.
To clear the final path for the planned drugging of half a million youngsters, the district attorney for the area agreed privately that there would be no arrests or prosecutions for violations of drug laws. John Roberts writes, "The District Attorney...recognized early on that many of our customers would be using illegal drugs, but also recognized that such use would be the least of our problems over the course of the weekend. He acted, therefore, with compassion and good grace throughout." Roberts also writes that he was meeting continuously with the FBI up to and including one day before the start of the concert, and had their full cooperation.
The Experiment Begins
Two days before the scheduled start of the concert, 50,000 kids had already arrived in Woodstock. Drugs immediately began to circulate. Many people brought their babies and, as Roberts says, even they were drugged. Roberts writes that at a nearby lake, "the tots swam naked, smoked grass, and got into the music."
A poll conducted at the festival by the New York Times showed that 99 percent of those attending were using marijuana. Local sheriff deputies, totally overwhelmed, reported that no arrests were being made for drug use. The New York Times of August 17 quoted one deputy," If we did (make arrests), there isn't enough space in Sullivan or the next three counties to put them in."
The use of marijuana was not the worst. Following the design of the original MK-Ultra project, the mass distribution of LSD came next, much of it in LSD-laced Coca Cola, as Kesey's Pranksters had done five years earlier.
Roberts jokingly relates the following, "a particularly abrasive cop ....had been handed an LSD-spiked Coke while directing traffic. Long after all automobiles in the area had congealed to a standstill, the hardhat was still out on the road waving them on. Finally they led him away."
For the next three days, the nearly half a million young people that arrived were subjected to continual drugs and rock music. Because of torrential rains, they were forced to wallow in knee-deep mud. There were no shelters, and no way to get out. Cars were parked over eight miles away. Rosenman writes that the key to the "Woodstock experiment"' was "keeping our performers performing around the clock...to keep the kids transfixed..."
Within the first 24 hours, over 300 kids reported to medical authorities, violently ill. The diagnosis: they were having "bad" LSD trips. Thousands more would follow. On August 17, the New York Times reported: "Tonight, a festival announcer warned from the stage, that 'badly manufactured acid' (a term for LSD) was being circulated. He said: 'You aren't taking poison acid. The acid's not poison. It's just badly manufactured acid. You are not going to die.... So if you think you've taken poison, you haven't. But if you're worried, just take half a tablet.'"
The advice, to nearly 500,000 people, "just take half a tablet" was given by none other than MK-Ultra agent Wavy Gravy.
With a growing medical emergency on hand, a call went out to New York City for emergency medical personnel. Over 50 doctors and nurses were flown in. By the end of Woodstock, a total of 5,000 medical cases were reported.
hunkahunka
16-02-2009, 07:04 PM
TWISTER
A Musical Catastrophe
By Ken Kesey an the Merry Pranksters
In the mid 1990's Ken wrote a play to save the world a end of the millennium...really! He saw that people everywhere had grown apathetic and become merely audiences. What he created was an interactive “ritual reality”, bringing the Prankster/actors into the audience and asking the audience onto the stage. He planned to evoke chaos in order to quell the natural disasters coming at the end of the millennium. For a task as important as this he needed some big names...so the play is set in the land of OZ. Ken is the Wizard and he conjures up unwilling characters from log ago....Dorothy, the Tinman, Scarecow, Glenda...and soon they are confronted with unearthly characters such as Elvis, Legba and Frankenstein. The wizard leads the Dorothy along, learning new lessons with each character until the play unravels with bickering and battles as the chaos starts. Soon the disgusted cast demand that Kesey come down from his cloud and confront them. I won’t give away the surprise ending, that sends the whole building into a rock-n-roll party with Jambay providing the tunes and the audience becoming Merry Pranksters. This play was very important to Ken, as he poured his soul into it, taking it on tour, editing this video, even creating a club (L.O.S.T. Legion Of The Sufficiently Twisted) with secret handshake and ID cards. This video is now being offered again for a limited time, because Ken would want it that way! 2 hours 10 min.
We would call the show TWISTER! A Musical Catastrophe for the Millenium's End-- set it in the Land of Oz, people it with a cast of archetypes ranging from the clearly obvious characters, like the Tinman and the Scarecrow, to the murky and mysterious, like Elvis and Frankenstein... scramble them all together in ever-bickering banter until they're all crazy at each other's throats, then snap them into sanity with a lastminute tearjerker twist gauranteed to touch everbody's heart.
Fortunately, I already had an idea for the character I wanted to deliver that twist: the spirit of a little girl that got trapped in a car beneath a Covina mall after an earthquake. My angel character was inspired by that little girl trapped beneath the tons of ruin brought down on her by the Mexico City quake. Search-and-rescue squads could hear her beneath tons of rubble, calmly calling and talking. They lowered a microphone through a crack the better to hear her as they labored to remove the slabs of ferroconcrete. She bravely kept talking day and night for close to a week while the rescuers--and the rest of the world-- listened. The little voice finally went silent just hours before they reached her.
I also had the perfect kid play the part: a shirt-tail in-law on my daughter's husband's side, named Emily Messmer-- long, dark tresses; bright-black eyes; intelligent face... plus that thoroughbred glow that some colts seem to be born with regardless of their bloodline. These colts seem to hit the racetrack already galloping full out.
Emily Messmer. Perfect. But as the show's opening drew near, a certain unhealthy anxiety began to creep like mildew through the rest of the Twister troupe: Was it wise to pin the whole play's success on the performance of one untested youngster? The angel's speech was the longest in the script-- three pages. Could she she memorize that much? Could she survive a freezing attack of stage fright? Could she strum a dark room full of sour untuned heartstrings into harmonic accord?
Our first show was performed after the Eugene Grateful Dead gig in the summer of '93, We had rented the National Guard Armory right across the street from the Oregon football stadium. The Armory was completely packed and miserably hot. The sound system was cranked up so loud people could barely hear. And as our little pit band of Jambay marched timidly into the play's overture, everybody realized that the mighty Grateful Dead was going to be a mighty tough act to follow.
Trains boomed past the hall so loud and close we had to shot the backdoors. The audience fidgeted and fussed on the noisy folding chairs, as they fanned their faces with Twister programs. Overhead a platoon of Armory air conditioners droned uselessly. Our damned wireless mikes distorted and sizzled like meat frying in hell. Halfway through the first act all the cast had their mouths full of cotton and their memories boiled dry. We would've rung down the curtain if we had a curtain.
We did have, thank heaven, an angel. Little Emily was the only one of us that had the class to act like a professional. She never missed a line or muffed a word. She didn't freeze up or break character. Her very entrance was a show-stopper; the crowd's fussing ceased the moment she floated on stage, clad all in heavenly white satin with dovefeather wings and a tinfoil halo. The programs stopped fanning. The chairs ceased squeeking. Even the air conditioners ground to respectful silence. These were GI air conditioners; they could recognise rank when it walked in. So could a roomful of Deadheads. There wasn't word nor wiggle until Angel Gloria delivered her closing lines-- "That's all. Vaya con Dios," and turned to exit.
She got a standing ovation.
http://www.intrepidtrips.com/images/angel.jpg
She was seven years old.
hunkahunka
17-02-2009, 03:50 AM
Ken Kesey, Allen Ginsberg , Hunter Thompson, and William Burroughs were
all beat or beatnik writers who knew each other from SanFrancisco.
(Burroughs and Thompson were both contributors to Rolling Stone magazine
at the same time in 1974)
Ken Kesey established a hippie commune in a large Berkeley house (NE SanFrancisco) and Allen Ginsberg penned the following poem while living
in Berkeley. Interesting that Paul Bonacci's accounts have placed Hunter Thompson at Bohemian Grove filming snuff movies, while Bohemian Grove is just north of Berkeley where all of these guys once lived, and it turns out
that Allen Ginsberg's poem, titled 'Howl', mentions Moloch:
What sphinx of cement and aluminum bashed open
their skulls and ate up their brains and imagi-
nation?
Moloch! Solitude! Filth! Ugliness! Ashcans and unob
tainable dollars! Children screaming under the
stairways! Boys sobbing in armies! Old men
weeping in the parks!
Moloch! Moloch! Nightmare of Moloch! Moloch the
loveless! Mental Moloch! Moloch the heavy
judger of men!
Moloch the incomprehensible prison! Moloch the
crossbone soulless jailhouse and Congress of
sorrows! Moloch whose buildings are judgment!
Moloch the vast stone of war! Moloch the stun-
ned governments!
Moloch whose mind is pure machinery! Moloch whose
blood is running money! Moloch whose fingers
are ten armies! Moloch whose breast is a canni-
bal dynamo! Moloch whose ear is a smoking
tomb!
Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows!
Moloch whose skyscrapers stand in the long
streets like endless Jehovahs! Moloch whose fac-
tories dream and croak in the fog! Moloch whose
smokestacks and antennae crown the cities!
Moloch whose love is endless oil and stone! Moloch
whose soul is electricity and banks! Moloch
whose poverty is the specter of genius! Moloch
whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen!
Moloch whose name is the Mind!
Moloch in whom I sit lonely! Moloch in whom I dream
Angels! Crazy in Moloch! Cocksucker in
Moloch! Lacklove and manless in Moloch!
Moloch who entered my soul early! Moloch in whom
I am a consciousness without a body! Moloch
who frightened me out of my natural ecstasy!
Moloch whom I abandon! Wake up in Moloch!
Light streaming out of the sky!
Moloch! Moloch! Robot apartments! invisible suburbs!
skeleton treasuries! blind capitals! demonic
industries! spectral nations! invincible mad
houses! granite cocks! monstrous bombs!
They broke their backs lifting Moloch to Heaven! Pave-
ments, trees, radios, tons! lifting the city to
Heaven which exists and is everywhere about
us!
Visions! omens! hallucinations! miracles! ecstasies!
gone down the American river!
Dreams! adorations! illuminations! religions! the whole
boatload of sensitive bullshit!
Breakthroughs! over the river! flips and crucifixions!
gone down the flood! Highs! Epiphanies! De-
spairs! Ten years' animal screams and suicides!
Minds! New loves! Mad generation! down on
the rocks of Time!
Real holy laughter in the river! They saw it all! the
wild eyes! the holy yells! They bade farewell!
They jumped off the roof! to solitude! waving!
carrying flowers! Down to the river! into the
street!
hunkahunka
17-02-2009, 12:16 PM
Creating the Counterculture
The year 1967 marked a significant escalation in open cultural warfare against the youth of the United States. The year saw the beginning of mass, open-air rock concerts. In the two years which followed, over 4 million young people attended a series of nearly a dozen of these "festivals," becoming the victims of planned, wide-scale drug experimentation. Mind destroying hallucinogenic drugs such as PCP, STP, and the Beatles-promoted LSD, were freely distributed at these concerts. These millions of attendees would afterward return to their homes to become the messengers and promoters of the new drug culture, or what came to be called the "New Age."
The first rock festival, "The First Annual Monterey International Pop Festival," was attended by over 100,000 youngsters. The real purpose of Monterey Pop was the widespread distrubution of a new type of drugs, classified as psychedelics or hallucinogens, such as LSD. At Monterey, thousands of younger teen-agers were introduced to the new hallucinogenic drugs.
The first experimentation with LSD was begun in the early sixties, in the Haight-Ashbury section of San Francisco. The project was run by a joint CIA-British intelligence task force under the code-name MK-Ultra. Part of the project called for the free distribution of 5,000 tablets of LSD through a commune known as Ken Kesey's Merry Pranksters. LSD's after-effects were then closely studied.
Kesey, a so-called "poet" and convicted drug felon, became famous for driving around California in a painted- up bus with his commune, the Merry Pranksters, distributing LSD-laced Kool Aid to the unsuspecting.
The effect of LSD is to make the victim psychotic, along with the inability to discern reality from drug-induced hallucinations. For many, this psychosis (also called a "bad trip") could and did lead to suicide. When an individual is given LSD without his knowledge, the psychosis-producing capabilities of the drug are amplified, and usually leave the victim with permanent brain damage.
The organizer of the Monterey festival was John Phillips, a member of the rock group the Mommas and the Papas. Phillips, as we shall see, was a drug pusher and closely tied in with the network of Satanists around Charles Manson and director Roman Polanski.
Phillips appointed a board of directors to promote and finance the concert. The members of the board brought together a network of British intelligence operatives and Satanists. The board of directors included Andrew Oldham (the Rolling Stones manager), the Stones leader Mick Jagger, Beatle Paul McCartney and Phillips' friend, record producer Terry Melcher, the son of Doris Day.
The concert, including the staging and the huge innovative outdoor amplification, was run by Phillips. It was the first time that an American audience was exposed to such openly demonic British groups as The Who, and Jimi Hendrix. At the conclusion of their act, The Who, in a drug-crazed frenzy, destroyed all their guitars, amplifiers, and drums. Hendrix simulated masturbation with his guitar, on stage, while performing at ear-splitting volume levels.
There was massive, open use of drugs. Author Robert Santelli, in his book, Aquarius Rising, writes "LSD was in abundance at Monterey. Tabs of `Monterey Purple' were literally given to anyone wishing to experiment a little." The police made no arrests, setting another precedent for future outdoor concerts.
There was a larger scheme in operation. The scheme was tied into MK-Ultra and it involved using Satanists around Phillips, along with agents such as Ken Kesey and Timothy Leary. The plan was to turn nearby San Francisco into a Satanist gaming preserve, mass recruiting and perverting young run-away teenagers.
Phillips had earlier written the music to a song called "San Francisco" which sold over 5 million copies. The song called for youth throughout the country to come to San Francisco "with flowers in their hair." The song was a rallying cry to tens of thousands who came flooding into San Francisco in the summer of 1968 to join the new "hippie" movement, misnamed the Summer of Love. Some who came became the prey for the likes of Charles Manson, who recruited his cult-"family" exclusively from runaway youth.
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DspcTcVslsI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB2tYYYlwMc&NR=1
'SanFrancisco' was not the only 'come to California' propaganda song of the time that John Phillips had a hand in . He also wrote the song 'California Dreamin'
"California Dreamin'" is a song by The Mamas & the Papas, first released in 1965. The song is #89 in Rolling Stone's list of The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wI6uAOHzvo
History
According to John Phillips in a Bravo documentary, the song was written in 1963 while he and girlfriend were living in New York. He dreamed about the song and woke her up to help him write. She had stopped in St. Patrick's a few days earlier, which led to the second verse. At the time, the Phillipses were members of the folk group The New Journeymen which evolved into The Mamas and the Papas.
They earned their first record contract after being introduced to Lou Adler, the head of Dunhill Records, by the singer Barry McGuire. In thanks to Adler, they sang the backing vocals to "California Dreamin'" on McGuire's album This Precious Time. The Mamas and the Papas then recorded their own version. The single was released in late 1965 but it was not an immediate breakthrough. After gaining little attention in Los Angeles upon its release, Michelle Phillips remembers that it took a radio station in Boston to break the song nationwide.[2] By early 1966, the song peaked at # 4 and it stayed on the charts for 17 weeks.[/B]
so, this California propaganda song was a dud in California, but was heavily pushed in the northern U.S. in the leadup to the big California counterculture pilgrimmage.
Another California propaganda song was recorded in 1967 and heavily pushed a year later:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/34/Dionne_San_Jose_1968.jpg/200px-Dionne_San_Jose_1968.jpg
Do you know the way to San Jose is a popular song by Burt Bacharach and Hal David, which was written specifically for Dionne Warwick. The 1968 international hit version by Warwick -- featured as the follow-up to the title tune on her album Dionne Warwick in Valley of the Dolls --
The album's lead single was the title track, "(Theme from) Valley of the Dolls", from the film of the same name. The song was written by André Previn and Dory Previn, and had initially been intended for Judy Garland before she was fired from the film. At the urging of one of the film's stars, Barbara Parkins, the song was given to Warwick. Warwick's Scepter version of the song, however, differed from the John Williams version included in the film. This was because Warwick was signed to Scepter, and the soundtrack was released on 20th Century Records. Warwick was only permitted to appear on the film's actual soundtrack and not the recording
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Dionne_Warwick_in_Valley_of_the_Dolls_album_cover. jpg
hunkahunka
17-02-2009, 12:56 PM
scum to stink of it, there was quite a bit of 'come to California' propaganda
churned out by the people associated with this whole milieu:
Manson and the Rock Stars
Charles Manson has been portrayed as a lone psychotic who had hypnotic power over his "Family". In reality, Manson was well-known to a whole network of Hollywood actors, actresses, promoters, partners and rock stars, and was providing sex and drugs to many of them.
In his autobiography, Papa John, John Phillips tells of an invitation he received to join Terry Melcher and Beach Boy member Dennis Wilson, at Wilson's mansion. Wilson said, "This guy Charlie's here with all these great-looking chicks. He plays guitar and he's a real wild guy. He has all these chicks hanging out like servants. You can come over and just screw any of them you want. It's a great party (monarch sex slaves, anyone?)
the Beach Boys have to be the reigning California propagandist band of all time.
The intrinsic message of so many of the songs was that California was a paradise,
and living anywhere else in the country was miserable.
Lots of songs played incessantly on the radio with lines like :
'Northern girls, with the way they kiss, they keep their
boyfriends warm at night. I wish they all could be California girls.'
and
'If everybody had an ocean Across the u.s.a. Then everybodyd be surfin
Like californi-a'
and this gem by John Phillips, close friend of Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys:
'All the leaves are brown And the sky is grey, I'd be safe and warm if I was in L.A., California dreamin'
On such a winters day'
San Francisco. San Jose. L.A. These songs sound like something out of a travel agency
ad campaign, and a huge one.
Sixties youth were being bombarded with beckonings to California in the years
leading up to the massive California drug festivals.
video:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1685x_beach-boys--california-girls_music
The Beatles even got in on the act with their 1968 song 'Back in the USSR' , which paid homage
to the Beach Boys song 'California Girls'.
hunkahunka
17-02-2009, 01:34 PM
quote
Manson's entire "Family" moved into the Beach Boys' mansion for nearly a year. The Beach Boys, who have performed at the White House, are the top recording group of EMI's subsidiary, Capitol Records.
On Sunday, August 10, 1969, Manson sent four members of his cult for their last visit to Melcher's house. This time Melcher wasn't there, but the actress Sharon Tate, wife of movie director Roman Polanski, and three others, were. When the group left, Tate and the others had been savagely mutilated and murdered. As for Phillips, in June 1980, he was arrested for running a large-scale drug wholesaling operation.
EMI is closely linked to MI5 and the British military intelligence apparatus, and the top star of EMI's subsidiary Capitol Records happened to also be a drug dealer.
It looks to me like the plan, starting in the fifties and sixties, was to de-industrialize and dismantle America and the UK, and transfer all of the factories overseas, while the largely unneeded western masses and their obsolete cities would be profit centers through the massive importation of narcotics .
This is exactly what was done to China. The elite broke China's back by forcing opium and other imports into the country. Once their economy and culture had been destroyed,
the Chinese were broken and enslaved to producing dollar store and Walmart items for the world.
So if the plan plays out as intended, Western society will be completely destroyed by drugs , to the point that we can be enslaved in factories the same as the Chinese.
emerald
17-02-2009, 02:38 PM
Mind control procedures/rape gone wrong?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090217/ap_on_re_us/fort_lewis_teen_death
hunkahunka
17-02-2009, 04:54 PM
Sharon Tate played suicidal sex pot Jennifer North in the 1967 film Valley of the Dolls. Her character is
a blonde former porn star who becomes a starlet, a drug addict, and eventually overdoses on Seconal,
leading to speculation that the Jennifer North is based on the life of Marilyn Monroe. Marylin Monroe's real name was Norma Jean. Is the name 'Jennifer North' a reverse acronym for Norma Jean?
It has been said that the character of 'Neely O'Hara'
in Valley of the Dolls was based on the real life of Judy Garland, (Judy Garland suspected this, and it was one of the reasons that she could not
complete the picture)
The character of Helen Lawson was based on the life of Ethel Merman
All three starlet 'Dolls' in the film become drug addicts. Tate's character dies of an intentional overdose.
The film warned about the false glamour of show business and the danger of the attendant drugs, and Tate was murdered shortly afterward by the Manson family. Judy Garland left part way through filming, was replaced by Susan Hayward, and died of an overdose of seconal shortly afterward.
video:
http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/271417
Valley of the Dolls theme
lyrics
Gotta get off, gonna get
Have to get off from this ride
Gotta get hold, gonna get
Need to get hold of my pride
When did I get, where did I
How was I caught in this game
When will I know, where will I
How will I think of my name
When did I stop feeling sure, feeling safe
And start wondering why, wondering why
Is this a dream, am I here, where are you
What's in back of the sky, why do we cry
Gotta get off, gonna get
Out of this merry-go-round
Gotta get off, gonna get
Need to get on where I'm bound
When did I get, where did I
Why am I lost as a lamb
When will I know, where will I
How will I learn who I am
Is this a dream, am I here, where are you
Tell me, when will I know, how will I know
When will I know why?
hunkahunka
18-02-2009, 01:23 AM
quote:
DEKALB, Illinois (CNN) -- A former student who killed five people at Northern Illinois University last Valentine's Day had been drummed out of the Army for hiding his psychiatric history and expressed admiration for famous murderers, CNN has learned.
spirals
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/CRIME/02/13/niu.shooting.investigation/art.halloween.pol.jpg
Steven Kazmierczak admired the sadistic killer in the "Saw" horror movies.
Steven Kazmierczak was known as "strange Steve" to roommates, studied the Virginia Tech and Columbine massacres and idolized the sadistic killer in the "Saw" horror films, according to documents from the year-long investigation into the NIU killings.
The still-unreleased police file on the shootings, which also left 18 students wounded, shows that 27-year-old Kazmierczak had been hospitalized several times as a teenager for psychiatric issues and had a history of suicide attempts. Kazmierczak shot and killed himself at the end of his shooting rampage.
Police told CNN that they received no information that would have tipped them off to his rampage.
But David Vann, who has written a book about what led to the shootings, said his research shows that Kazmierczak carefully planned the shootings and that there was a lifetime of red flags that indicated he was capable of such an act.
Video
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/13/niu.shooting.investigation/index.html?iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCVideo
Watch shooter's eerie fascination with sadistic horror flick »
"The degree of self-destruction and antisocial behavior at the end, of really scary behaviors, was just phenomenal," Vann said. "And at some point after you look at all of those records, you just have to wonder, what does a mass murderer have to do to get noticed?"
The NIU Police Department has repeatedly refused CNN's requests to release any files related to the investigation, since it is still under way. But CNN was given exclusive access to some of the approximately 1,500 pages of police reports, psychiatric records and family documents by Vann, who said he obtained the files from a law enforcement source. See one of Kazmierczak's psychiatric reports »
"It's just amazing that he could coldly plan to kill all of those people. ... Everything was planned out carefully," Vann said.
Kazmierczak, a former NIU student, was going to graduate school at the University of Illinois in Champaign at the time of the killings. During his time at NIU, he wrote a paper called "No Crazies With Guns," in which he used the April 2007 massacre at Virginia Tech to analyze whether mentally ill people should have access to guns.
Kazmierczak was later able to purchase weapons used in the NIU killings because he had not been in a mental facility in the past five years, which would have disqualified him in Illinois from buying a gun. Video Watch a forensic psychologist discuss warning signs »
After the shooting, NIU Police Chief Donald Grady said there were no "red flags" in Kazmierczak's past that would have foreshadowed what happened. He told CNN this week that he stands by that statement.
"Was he obsessed? Was he not obsessed? That information didn't come through to the university police at any time he was here. ... How could it be a red flag if it never came to us?"
He added, "It's the same story. Nothing has changed in that regard. We haven't found anything that would dispel any of that. So it is absolutely the same right now."
Grady said the investigation was ongoing but not a priority because there was no one involved but Kazmierczak. SIU blog: Could you spot a killer?
"We already know he is no longer with us," he said. "We already know what he was wearing and what he used and how he went about doing it. I'm not certain that there's much else there."
Asked about information in the police files indicating that Kazmierczak exhibited odd behavior at NIU, Grady said that was never reported to the police department -- and insisted that there were no outward warning signs.
"There are lots of people on this campus that someone would refer to as strange," he said. "I mean, we have women that walk around with dog collars. I consider that to be strange. I don't know what someone else would consider that to be, but walking around with a dog collar strapped to your neck seems to me to be strange. Is that a sign that we should now be concerned that this person is about to engage in acts of violence? Well, I don't think so."
As far back as childhood, Kazmierczak's mother wrote in a family book that her son was overly sensitive and bullied.
"Sometimes I wish he would be a little tougher, and bop the daylights out of people that pick on him. ... One day he will," she wrote.
In junior high school, Kazmierczak made a bomb out of Drano, according to the documents. He also had a history of attempted suicides and was hospitalized nine times for psychiatric issues before 2001.
He spent three years at Thresholds, a psychiatric center in Chicago, according to psychiatric records in the files. He was kicked out of the program for "non-compliance and deception," the records state, adding that Kazmierczak "has had multiple hospitalizations and ... impulsive behavior and suicidal gestures."
He enlisted in the Army in September 2001 but was discharged the following February for lying on his application about his mental illness, Army records state. After that, he enrolled at NIU, where his freshman suitemates recall him as being obsessed with infamous figures such as Adolf Hitler and Ted Bundy.
"He was called 'strange Steve' by everyone in the dorm, and everyone knew that something was wrong with him," Vann said. But he also was a successful graduate student at NIU who tutored other students.
"Steve Kazmierczak was living a double life," Vann said.
After Kazmierczak transferred to the University of Illinois graduate program in social work, he began seeing a therapist. Over the next several months, he was on and off an antidepressant and sleeping medication.
In October 2007, according to the records, he and his former live-in girlfriend, Jessica Baty, saw the horror film "Saw IV." Kazmierczak then dressed up as Jigsaw, the movie's sadistic killer narrator, for Halloween and had a tattoo of the character -- depicted riding a bicycle through a puddle of blood -- on his forearm.
"I think of all the texts he left, movies and books, the 'Saw' movies are very important," said Vann, who wrote an article about Kazmierczak for Esquire magazine in 2008.
grachtengordel
18-02-2009, 02:01 PM
Steven Kazmierczak admired the sadistic killer in the "Saw" horror movies.
I watched the first saw movie, what a load of shite. I can't understand how anyone would want to watch something so sick and such a badly told story. the cops had loads of chances to shoot the 'killer', it was just insulting how stupid the movie was, can movie audiences really 'suspend thier disbelief' that far?. thanks for posting this info, your work is not in vain, keep it up guys
hunkahunka
18-02-2009, 06:38 PM
Ken Kesey was 'a brother' of Beta Theta Pi fraternity
He was enrolled at the prestigious Stanford University
in California when he wrote 'One Flew Over the Cuckoos
Nest, while allegedly volunteering as a guinea pig for CIA-financed MKultra LSD tests.
At Stanford in 1959, Kesey volunteered to take part in a CIA-financed study named Project MKULTRA at the Menlo Park Veterans Hospital. The project studied the effects of psychoactive drugs, particularly LSD, psilocybin, mescaline, cocaine, AMT, and DMT on people.[3] Kesey wrote many detailed accounts of his experiences with these drugs, both during the Project MKULTRA study and in the years of private experimentation that followed.
The inspiration for One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest came while working on the night shift (with Gordon Lish) at the Menlo Park Veterans' Hospital. There, Kesey often spent time talking to the patients, sometimes under the influence of the hallucinogenic drugs with which he had volunteered to experiment. Kesey did not believe that these patients were insane, rather that society had pushed them out because they did not fit the conventional ideas of how people were supposed to act and behave.
Kesey bought a sprawling place at La Honda, in South SanFrancisco,
where Courtney Love's mother Linda Carroll became involved with
Haight Ashbury scene and Kesey's Pranksters.
Kesey left California after being busted for drug posession, and
returned to his family farm in Eugene, Oregon. The Grateful Dead
frequently hung out with him there , considering Eugene a second home.
Courtney Love's father, Hank Harrison, one time manager of the Grateful Dead, authored a 'Grateful Dead' biography, titled The Dead: A Social History of the Haight-Ashbury
Experience.
Courtney Love was born in SanFrancisco, and then raised in Eugene, Oregon, and was moved to New Zealand , then England, then back to Eugene to live with her mother's
therapist. (Her movements from SanFrancisco to Eugene, Oregon exactly parallel
those of Pranksters leader Ken Kesey, btw) Her adoptive family eventually moved to Portland,
Oregon, where she eventually met Kurt Cobain.
Courtney Love was born Michelle Love Harrison in San Francisco, the daughter of Hank Harrison, a one-time associate of the Grateful Dead, who boasted of disciplining her with a pit bull. Her mother was Linda Carroll, a therapist best known for persuading the urban terrorist Katherine Ann Power in 1993 to surrender after more than two decades on the run.
The hippie family lived briefly in a commune in Eugene, Oregon, before splitting up. By court order, Harrison, who once compared her to Charles Manson, was forbidden from seeing his daughter unsupervised until she became an adult. Her mother remarried, changed her daughter’s name to Courtney Love and moved abroad. Love bounced between New Zealand, Britain and America, from guardian to guardian
After high school, Carroll's fascination with odd characters led her to the Haight's hippie community and finally to Hank Harrison, an early Grateful Dead associate who threatened to kill himself unless Carroll slept with him. At a loss, she did. They later married in Reno and Carroll became pregnant with Courtney. The two divorced, Carroll says, after Harrison's behavior grew increasingly violent and erratic.
Courtney Love's childhood was blighted from the start. She returned from visits with Hank covered in paint, talking about drugs and suffering from nightmares. Expelled from school after school, interviewed by psychiatrist after psychiatrist, she was prone to fits of rage and feelings of persecution. Barely able to keep her own life together, Carroll eventually left her eldest in the care of friends
hunkahunka
19-02-2009, 12:42 AM
Joaquin Phoenix on the David Letterman show 7 days ago.
he is the brother of River Phoenix
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAQ4x7rgS6I
hunkahunka
19-02-2009, 01:45 AM
Eugene, Oregon is known by its nickname, the "Emerald City".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene,_Oregon
off topic......
no mind control thread would be complete without paying homage
to Michael Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vil7KDAgWE0
this is evidence of what a great person MJ is:)
hunkahunka
19-02-2009, 03:52 AM
Eugene Oregon, aka 'Emerald City
the second largest city in Oregon
the University of Oregon newspaper is called the 'Daily Emerald'
http://telescope1.logika.net/b/scope?u=www.dailyemerald.com%2F&c=tllxyykzxzzwqnpxskvkqqvtvwklnzpl
http://www.timelineuniverse.net/images/Emerald%20City.jpg
http://www.collegefrontpage.com/resources/galleries/redesign/usora1/before.jpg
hunkahunka
19-02-2009, 12:25 PM
interesting to note that Ken Kesey worked at the Oregon Daily Emerald
while a journalism student at University of Oregon, which is located in
Eugene, Oregon
Kesey attended the University of Oregon's School of Journalism, where he received a degree in speech and communication in 1957, where he was also a brother of Beta Theta Pi.
The Oregon Daily Emerald is an independent daily newspaper published at the University of Oregon in Eugene, Oregon, United States. The paper, which has been published for more than 100 years, has trained many now-prominent writers and journalists and has made important contributions to journalism case law.
Kesey was from Emerald City (Eugene) and went on to become the Wizard
in his own play 'Twister'.
http://www.bryanappleyard.com/blog/uploaded_images/800px-Furthur_01-709892.jpg
http://zembla.cementhorizon.com/archives/oregonducks1.gif
University of Oregon Ducks logo (football)
http://www.key-z.com/NeverTrustWeb.jpg
hunkahunka
19-02-2009, 01:08 PM
this incident occurred at one of the 23 California State University campuses
http://http://wiki.case.edu/images/thumb/1/13/BetaThetaPiCrest.jpg/180px-BetaThetaPiCrest.jpg
https://secureapp.netclubmgr.com/ICS/CM/V2/BinaryDataHandler.ashx?ia=ClubImageHome&iid=6280
Beta Theta Pi fraternity loses university recognition on hazing charges
Three men face misdemeanor charges, police say
By: Stacey Kennelly
Issue date: 5/16/07 Section: News
July 11, 2007
Three Beta Theta Pi members are being charged with misdemeanors for allegedly hazing their pledges.
Chris Bizot, 23, Mike Murphy, 22, and Matthew Krupp, 23, allegedly hazed potential new members, said Butte County District Attorney Mike Ramsey. Bizot and Murphy are Chico State students, and Krupp attends Butte College.
Chico State no longer recognizes the fraternity.
Bizot, president of the fraternity at the time of the alleged hazing, has also been charged with interfering with a police investigation. Ramsey said Bizot lied to police about the severity of the hazing and encouraged others to lie as well.
Bizot and Krupp could not be contacted. Murphy, who is also The Orion's entertainment editor for the fall semester, declined to comment.
University Police launched an extensive investigation after receiving information that the fraternity hazed its pledges. The person who supplied police this information cannot be identified publicly at this time, Ramsey said.
After talking to fraternity members, pledges and others in the university community, police found that Beta Theta Pi had been hazing its pledges and submitted the investigation to the district attorney's office.
The three men were charged with misdemeanors under Matt's Law, a 2006 law that makes hazing a misdemeanor or a felony when serious bodily injury is caused, Ramsey said. The three men were charged with misdemeanors because no one was severely injured this time, he said.
Matt's Law was created in memory of Matthew Carrington, who was a 21-year-old Chico State student pledging the unrecognized Chi Tau fraternity when he died of water intoxication in the fraternity's basement on Feb. 2, 2005. He had been doing calisthenics and drinking water from a 5-gallon jug throughout the night, police said.
Ramsey said the hazing occurred over a one-week period and included forcing pledges to submerge themselves up to their necks in a bathtub full of ice water for long periods of time.
The misdemeanor charges could stay on the men's criminal records for life, Ramsey said. If they receive probation and complete it, they may be able to go back to court in a couple of years to ask to have the charges removed from their records.
amethyst
19-02-2009, 05:55 PM
Creating the Counterculture
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DspcTcVslsI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB2tYYYlwMc&NR=1
'SanFrancisco' was not the only 'come to California' propaganda song of the time that John Phillips had a hand in . He also wrote the song 'California Dreamin'
"
so, this California propaganda song was a dud in California, but was heavily pushed in the northern U.S. in the leadup to the big California counterculture pilgrimmage.
Another California propaganda song was recorded in 1967 and heavily pushed a year later:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/34/Dionne_San_Jose_1968.jpg/200px-Dionne_San_Jose_1968.jpg
Do you know the way to San Jose is a popular song by Burt Bacharach and Hal David, which was written specifically for Dionne Warwick. The 1968 international hit version by Warwick -- featured as the follow-up to the title tune on her album Dionne Warwick in Valley of the Dolls --
The album's lead single was the title track, "(Theme from) Valley of the Dolls", from the film of the same name. The song was written by André Previn and Dory Previn, and had initially been intended for Judy Garland before she was fired from the film. At the urging of one of the film's stars, Barbara Parkins, the song was given to Warwick. Warwick's Scepter version of the song, however, differed from the John Williams version included in the film. This was because Warwick was signed to Scepter, and the soundtrack was released on 20th Century Records. Warwick was only permitted to appear on the film's actual soundtrack and not the recording
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Dionne_Warwick_in_Valley_of_the_Dolls_album_cover. jpg
So it was all psy ops...amazing...all of it. Dionne Warwick related to Whitney Houston...and look how she ended up....All these benign sounding songs hiding such an evil agenda
stateofmind
19-02-2009, 07:02 PM
"Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", "I Am the Walrus", "San Francisco" - all great and beautiful songs. If these songs are evil then I don't want to be good!
p.s. those reptiles are some damn good songwriters!! ;)
runciter
19-02-2009, 07:03 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/34/Dionne_San_Jose_1968.jpg/200px-Dionne_San_Jose_1968.jpg
dionne war wicca reminds me of this lady
http://s.wsj.net/media/Michelle_DV_20090210174204.jpg
look at her left hand, i see something..
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31EVTR36PCL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
---- michelle lavaughn obama
runciter
19-02-2009, 07:09 PM
interesting to note that Ken Kesey worked at the Oregon Daily Emerald
while a journalism student at University of Oregon, which is located in
Eugene, Oregon
eugene > eu (good) genie, but also eugenics
http://zembla.cementhorizon.com/archives/oregonducks1.gif
isn't this a stargate? mind control or what else?
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/eugenesaintscampus/OregonDucksLogo.gif
the ring? der ring des nibelungen?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6k8BNH8fxyE/SD5Uaxb9a0I/AAAAAAAAASY/QYzzqEMKlLo/s400/forum.JPG
http://www.film.it/fnts/film/immagini/350x250/thering202.jpg
http://www.316church.org/uploaded_images/heroes_logo-711478.jpg
hunkahunka
20-02-2009, 08:45 AM
eugene > eu (good) genie, but also eugenics
http://zembla.cementhorizon.com/archives/oregonducks1.gif
isn't this a stargate? mind control or what else?
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/eugenesaintscampus/OregonDucksLogo.gif
the ring? der ring des nibelungen?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6k8BNH8fxyE/SD5Uaxb9a0I/AAAAAAAAASY/QYzzqEMKlLo/s400/forum.JPG
http://www.film.it/fnts/film/immagini/350x250/thering202.jpg
http://www.316church.org/uploaded_images/heroes_logo-711478.jpg
I think Jake Kotze or Steve Willner would have a ball with this stuff.
Could be the greek letter theta:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Greek_uc_theta.png
runciter
20-02-2009, 09:17 AM
i've just realized that the creator of "heroes" is
tim kring > k ring
k o
Magick, in the broadest sense, is any act designed to cause intentional change. The spelling with the terminal "k" was repopularized in the first half of the 20th century by Aleister Crowley when he introduced it as a core component of Thelema.
"The Anglo-Saxon k in Magick, like most of Crowley's conceits, is a means of indicating the kind of magic which he performed. K is the eleventh letter of several alphabets, and eleven is the principal number of magick, because it is the number attributed to the Qliphoth - the underworld of demonic and chaotic forces that have to be conquered before magick can be performed. K has other magical implications: it corresponds to the power or shakti aspect of creative energy, for k is the ancient Egyptian khu, the magical power. Specifically, it stands for kteis (vagina), the complement to the wand (or phallus) which is used by the Magician in certain aspects of the Great Work."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magick
http://www.diecastairplanes.tv/images/250px-Itek_Air_logo.png
On 24 August 2008 a Boeing 737, owned and operated by Itek Air (a Kyrgyz company) on a charter flight for Iran Aseman Airlines, flight nr 6895, crashed near Manas International Airport near Bishkek, the capital city of Kyrgyzstan, while attempting an emergency landing, returning to the airport of origin, 10 minutes after departure. Sixty-eight people were killed and 22 people survived the crash.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itek_Air
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Interwoven_unicursal_hexagram.svg/180px-Interwoven_unicursal_hexagram.svg.png
The unicursal hexagram is used to express a high level of self-confidence and belief that one can achieve the highest of goals and become a divine figure.
Aleister Crowley's adaptation of the unicursal hexagram placed a five petaled rose, (symbolizing the divine) in the center; the symbol as a whole making eleven (five petals of the rose plus six points of the hexagram), the number of divine union.
It is also used in the Greek and Hindu mythologies. as a symbol of dedication to the divine rulers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicursal_hexagram
http://www.nationmaster.com/wikimir/images/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/45/Magick_book4.gif
For Crowley, the alternate spelling was used to differentiate it from other practices, such as stage magic. Magick is not capable of producing "miracles" or violating the physical laws of the universe (e.g., it cannot cause a solar eclipse), although "it is theoretically possible to cause in any object any change of which that object is capable by nature".
Crowley preferred the spelling magick, defining it as "the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with the will." By this, he included "mundane" acts of will as well as ritual magic. In Magick in Theory and Practice, Chapter XIV, Crowley says:
What is a Magical Operation? It may be defined as any event in nature which is brought to pass by Will. We must not exclude potato-growing or banking from our definition. Let us take a very simple example of a Magical Act: that of a man blowing his nose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magick
runciter
20-02-2009, 09:21 AM
I think Jake Kotze or Steve Willner would have a ball with this stuff.
Could be the greek letter theta:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Greek_uc_theta.png
letter theta > thelema
http://www.rosslyn.org/Thelema-sm.jpg
Thelema is a philosophy of life based on the rule or law, "Do what thou wilt." The ideal of "Do what thou wilt" and its association with the word Thelema goes back to François Rabelais, but was more fully developed and proselytized by Aleister Crowley, who founded a religion named Thelema based on this ideal. The word itself is the English transliteration of the Koine Greek noun θέλημα: "will", from the verb θέλω: to will, wish, purpose. Early Christian writings use the word to refer to the will of God, the human will, and even the will of God's opponent, the Devil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema
thanks hunka!
http://www.mathmlcentral.com/characters/glyphs/CapitalTheta_L.gif
i see a resemblance to
http://www.tolkienbooks.net/images/other/ring-eye-device.gif
runciter
20-02-2009, 09:35 AM
sorry for spamming this thread but i can't stop myself :cool:
http://weblogs.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/blog/heroes_timMain.jpg
tim kring > team k ring
fellowship of the magick ring
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sVbp5aWkL._SL500_AA280_.jpg
Todd makes clear the Rothschilds, a family of Sabbatean Jewish Cabalists, top the Illuminati hierarchy:
"The Rothschilds lead the Illuminati and in every country they have a family ...being the head of the Illuminati. In the United States, we have the Rockefellers. David Rockefeller is both the head of the Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral [Commission] which is the name of the Illuminati within the United States."
"On the top of each pyramid you will see a capstone with an eye in it. The capstone is the Rothschild Family or Tribunal that rules the Illuminati; they were the creators of it. The eye is Lucifer, their god and their voice. The first 3 top blocks are on every pyramid. The top block is what I was initiated into, the council of 13 called the Grand Druid Council. They only take orders from the Rothschilds and nobody else. They're their private priesthood. The Council of 33 is directly under them, that is the 33 highest Masons in the World. The Council of 500, some of the richest people and conglomerates in the World—[including the Bilderbergs and the families like the Duponts and Kennedys.]
"The Golden Dawn is the organisation of witchcraft, the 4th block up there, and it's the Rothschild's private coven. They choose every member personally." He says C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien were both members of Golden Dawn. Grand Druid Isaac Bonewitz and the ACLU started an organization to sue Christians who defame the Occult. He includes Scientology and The National Council of Churches in the Illuminati structure.
http://www.henrymakow.com/witches_rule_illuminati_said_j.html
http://www.bookloveroxford.com/USERIMAGES/HPIM0523(1).JPG
hunkahunka
20-02-2009, 11:20 AM
here's one for you runciter:
Ken Kesey's initials are KK.
runciter
20-02-2009, 11:52 AM
here's one for you runcitier:
Ken Kesey's initials are KK.
wiki adds another k (key)
Kenneth Elton Kesey (September 17, 1935 – November 10, 2001) was an American author, best known for his novel One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1962), and as a counter-cultural figure who, some consider, was a link between the Beat Generation of the 1950s and the hippies of the 1960s. "I was too young to be a beatnik, and too old to be a hippie," Kesey said in a 1999 interview with Robert K. Elder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey
he died on 10-11-01 (or 11-10-01), two months -1 after 9/11
interview with robert k. elder in 1999 > 666 1
key holder? robot key holder?
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/030519/163848__keymaster_l.jpg
emerald
20-02-2009, 12:34 PM
Silence trigger forever:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1150083/Lily-Allens-got-new-tattoo-shhh--Rihannas.html
hunkahunka
20-02-2009, 08:37 PM
Were the Grateful Dead Freemason Satanists?
I am a person who was into the rock band the Grateful Dead for many years. Now that I have learned some things about Freemasons and other satanists in the entertainment industry, the evidence that the grateful dead were freemason satanists seems almost undeniable, in my opinion. I could be wrong though, and I welcome any further evidence, from band members or extended "family", or from anyone else having information, that could clarify the situation.
I present below a number of points that support this idea. Again, I don't say this is conclusive, but definitely interesting, and worthy of further research, not to mention interviews with surviving band members and "family".
1) Members of the Grateful Dead and the Merry Pranksters have NUMEROUS ties to US intelligence organizations and mind control operations. Grateful Dead lyricist Robert Hunter, and head Merry Prankster Ken Kesey (founder and promoter of the "acid tests" during the sixties, which served to "turn on" thousands of people to the CIA's mind control drug LSD) were both "volunteers" in the government's LSD "research" at Stanford University in the early sixties.
2) The Grateful Dead got their start as the "house band" for the Merry Pranksters' acid tests. "The Merry Pranksters" derived their name from a group of medeival satanists called the Merry pranksters. The motto of the modern-day merry pranksters was "Never trust a Prankster!". The Pranksters membership included LSD kingpin Owsley Stanley, British Intelligence agent and Whole Earth Catalog founder Stewart Brand, child-rapist Allen Ginsburg, and "Mountain Girl" aka Mrs. Jerry Garcia. The Pranksters were also great "friends" with everyone's favorite guys, The Hell's Angels. In other words, the freemason hell's angels were the "security" for the pranksters at their acid tests.
3) Despite being busted numerous times for drugs including cocaine, marijuana, heroin, and HUMONGOUS quantities of LSD, none of the band members ever seems to have done any real jail time. I know of many people with no prior record who were busted with as little as a seed or a joint of marijuana who did jail time. Is the Grateful Dead's "outlaw" persona simply a phony masonic con job? Despite being busted in 1969 with HUMONGOUS quantities of drugs, the Dead not only did NO JAIL TIME WHATSOEVER, but were able to travel freely out of the country for their famous 1972 European tour.
4) The Grateful Dead record covers and art work are LOADED with Freemason symbolism. First of all, the skulls and skeletons which are EVERYWHERE in association with this band. Somewhere on Freemasonry Watch, there is a description of the 33rd degree ceremony, which describes all the SKELETONS that are hung up around the "temple" during this ceremony. At many Dead shows, there were large skeletons hung up both inside and outside the venue.
The rose (and the rose with the skeleton) is another VERY common symbol associated with the Grateful Dead, and with freemasonry.
On numerous concert posters and album art work, the artist Rick Griffin chose to represent a giant flying eyeball with wings. The disconnected "all-seeing eye" is a well-known masonic symbol.
The main symbol/corporate logo most people know of the Grateful Dead is from a record called "Steal Your Face". This corporate logo consists of a representation of a skull, with a lightning bolt going through the middle of it, originally (and usually) in masonic red, white and blue colors. You can view this logo (sans the red white and blue) at dead.net - the official homepage of the Grateful Dead corporation. This could easily be interpreted as a symbol of Crowley's "spermo-gnosticism". (See the website "Christendom and Freemasonry's Use of the Phallus" (as linked to on this site in other places) to read about what a lightning bolt symbolizes for freemasons). Indeed, the original name for the album featuring this logo was "Skull F*ck". The title was rejected by Warner Bros executives however, and the Dead decided to call the record "Steal Your Face" instead. Note too that the Dead had NUMEROUS and important connections with Crowley's OTO. Were the Grateful Dead spermo-gnostic semen drinkers like Crowley's other disciples? Their corporate logo would certainly seem to suggest this.
5) Bassist Phil Lesh had (has?) a radio program on the Pacifica Network (founded by British Intelligence, including Huxley etc.) called "Eyes of Order, Veil of Chaos". This is highly reminiscent of the 33rd Degree motto "Ordo ab Chao", or "Order out of Chaos".
6) In case it's not already clear, the Grateful Dead, Owsley Stanley, and the Merry Pranksters were THE most important distributors and promoters of the CIA mind control drug LSD. These people did more than ANYBODY to manufacture, promote and distribute LSD. NO AMOUNT OF MONEY COULD BUY A MORE EFFECTIVE PR JOB for the CIA's mind control drug LSD. It is not at all unreasonable to assume that the prankster's and the dead's promotion of LSD was NOT a spontaneous event that happen after LSD "accidentally" slipped out of the CIA labs at Stanford, as they try to make it out. The dead and their writers always try to make it look like LSD just "accidentally" got out of the army research labs at Stanford. It looks a helluva lot more like it was INTENTIONALLY released by the government masons, using Kesey, the Dead, and Owsley Stanley to hype and distribute this drug. Owsley Stanley was the greatest LSD manufacturer of all time. He is directly responsible for ALL of the LSD used at Kesey's tests, and for the LSD that was distributed widely. He views LSD as a sacrament. You can read about his ideas on LSD here: thebear.org/essays.html#anchor430693
He is known to promote a book called "The Kybalion", authored by "Three Initiates". DOes anyone have any more information on this book? Is it a masonic book? If so, then there should be no further doubt that Owsley Stanley, the LSD manufacturing kingpin of the 60's, was a masonic operative. His family history would certainly suggest a masonic background, as one of his descendants was Augustus Owsley Stanley, a senator from Kentucky. Is it possible to be a Senator from Kentucky without being a mason? Owsley (or "Bear" as he likes to be called) had numerous contacts in government intelligence, such as multimillionaire Billy Hitchcock, and government operative and "Whole Earth Catalog" founder Stewart Brand (also a Merry Prankster). Owsley was supposedly "busted" for LSD in the seventies. How much jail time did he actually end up doing for manufacturing and possessing enough LSD to dose the entire population of the earth a thousand times over? No one really knows. He lives in Australia now.
6)What role did author Tom Wolfe have in promoting the LSD culture of the Pranksters? His "best-selling" book "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" took an obscure and almost entirely unknown group of people living in the woods in Northern California (the merry pranksters), and made them (and their culture of drug use and free sex etc) into international stars. Wolfe seems to have a penchant for documenting the exploits of Freemasons. Hence his book "the Right Stuff", about NASA, which as we all know is controlled by Masons (EVERY single astronaut is a confessed freemason.) Phil Lesh often wears NASA t-shirts at his concerts. DOes anyone know of Wolfe's masonic connections? Wolfe is this clown who lives in NYC who goes around in an idiotic white suit and hat. This is his "trademark" or something.
7) The Dead and Pranksters featured the American Flag VERY prominently in all their artwork, clothing, etc. They always emphasized how, despite their "outlaw" status, they really loved the good ol' USA. Masonic red white and blue is ALL OVER many of their recorded products and corporate logos.
Robert Hunter's lyrics abound with Masonic references. First is his song "The Mason's Children". In addition there is his hit "Friend of the Devil", with the repeated refrain "A friend of the Devil is a friend of mine". In addition there is the Dead "signature" tune called "Dark Star", which is a well-known satanic reference. I could easily go ON AND ON AND ON with masonic quotes from Robert Hunter's lyrics, but you can go to any lyric site on the web and look them up yourself. I doubt you could find one song by this guy that doesn't have some kind of masonic reference in it.
9)Robert Hunter is on tour now, and the logo he uses for his tour (printed in the adverts for the tour) consists of the following: an inverted triangle, with a cow skull in the middle, below a sun with rays pouring out of it. Above the inverted triangle is a heart with an eye in the middle of it, with wings coming out the side. I think such a blatantly masonic logo could hardly be an accident. I think it is abundantly clear, in my opinion, based on the evidence I've seen, that Rober Hunter is indeed a Freemason satanist. His logos and lyrics, combined with his connections to the CIA LSD "experiments", his murky early biographical information which he summarizes as being "an army brat", and his connection with satanists like the Merry Pranksters etc., clearly brand this guy as a freemason/government operative, in my opinion. I welcome any feedback if I am not correct.
Another of Hunter's lyrics (sung by Jerry Garcia) is a song called "U.S. Blues". Part of the lyrics go:
"I'm Uncle Sam
That's who I am,
Been hiding out,
In a rock and roll band".
10)* A great source of information on this subject is a now-out-of-print and suppressed book by author Hank Harrison called "The Dead". I used to own this book. It can still be found, but is out of print now, if I' not mistaken. Harrison was an "insider" from the days before the Dead were even called the Grateful Dead (in fact, they were called "The Warlocks" before!!!) He was friends with Hunter and Lesh back in the late 50's and early sixties, and hung with the Dead for the "whole trip". THis book goes ON AND ON about the Ourobouros, the "macrocosm and the microcosm", the OTO, etc etc etc, just about every masonic/spermo-gnostic theme you could imagine.. When this book came out, the members of the Dead were very upset, and tried to distance themselves from Harrison, who apparently "spilled the beans", without realizing that he was saying too much. I always wondered why the Dead were so upset with this book. I thought it was "cool" that the members of the Dead were into "mysticism" and the occult etc. Why would they be so upset over this book? Now I think I know...
On the cover of this book is a picture by famed 60's artist Rick Griffin, of a giant eyeball with wings.
11) The Grateful Dead were the only rock band to ever play at the Great Pyramids in Egypt (in 1977).
Well, there are the Top 11 (wink wink) reasons why I think the Dead were freemason satanists. There are many many many more I could point out. I could easily write a book on the subject. Maybe I will.
Believe me, this hole goes a lot deeper. We could go into LSD consumption during quasi-masonic/grateful dead ritual as homeopathic OTO "elixir" substitute. We could go into the band members involvement with blood and organ donation, but....let's not go there right now. I just ate. Wouldn't you love to donate your blood and organs to members of a group called the Grateful Dead? I hear that since Jerry died, they now call themselves simply "The Dead". Lovely...
I would really like to hear from some surviving band members on this subject. I somehow doubt that any of them will respond though. Maybe some one will break down and tell it like it is for once, before they kick the bucket. They need not go to "Hell in a Bucket", but at least they'll enjoy the ride.
People are crazy.
*not sure of the factual accuracy of this part
grachtengordel
21-02-2009, 11:15 AM
Silence trigger forever:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1150083/Lily-Allens-got-new-tattoo-shhh--Rihannas.html
that is shocking, blatant MK 'sign of silence'
Not least of all because it turns out their secret pact to both get Shhh... etched across their index finger was completely unoriginal.
It turns out pop star Rihanna has exactly the same scrawling on her right hand.
It was an impromptu moment of bonding for the pair, who have been friends for some time after being introduced by music producer (AGENT) Mark Ronson.
Ronson is, of course, the brother of Lindsay's girlfriend Samantha.
samantha ronson is so obviously a 'handler'
hunkahunka
21-02-2009, 02:02 PM
http://www.mathmlcentral.com/characters/glyphs/CapitalTheta_L.gif
i see a resemblance to
http://www.tolkienbooks.net/images/other/ring-eye-device.gif
yes, the theta letter does have an eye-ballish look to it now that you point
it out. Something going on with the pupils/irises too. Cats eye or reptilian irises.
http://www.mathmlcentral.com/characters/glyphs/CapitalTheta_L.gif
the word iris is like osiris
oz iris
hunkahunka
21-02-2009, 02:35 PM
I did a search on 'theta iris'
and came up with the web page of phi chi theta, a business education fraternity:
http://www.phichitheta.org/iris/
their newsletter is called the iris
http://www.phichitheta.org/img/IRIS2008.jpg
smashstuff
21-02-2009, 03:38 PM
Whoah!
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4650/rihannashhlq9.jpg http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2339/hannhashhea0.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1681/lilyshhjq2.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2263/lindsayshhha4.jpg
emerald
21-02-2009, 05:45 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1151066/Move-Pixie-amp-Co-Kurt-Cobains-daughter-Frances-way-join-Londons-brat-pack.html
runciter
22-02-2009, 08:48 PM
yes, the theta letter does have an eye-ballish look to it now that you point
it out. Something going on with the pupils/irises too. Cats eye or reptilian irises.
http://www.mathmlcentral.com/characters/glyphs/CapitalTheta_L.gif
the word iris is like osiris
oz iris
oz iris!
http://www.germauto.it/fotoauto/SIMBOLI%20AUTO/opel_logo_.jpg
osiris was associated with orion
http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/constellations/orion.jpg
now look at this
http://theo.netsons.org/wp-content/usain_bolt_arrow_795334c.jpg
http://www.kornheiserscartel.com/uploaded_images/Usain-Bolt-713963.jpg
^ usain bolt
http://www.film3d.it/images/locandina_bolt_disney.jpg
(courtesy of rich157)
http://www.freewebs.com/garyosborn/Osiris.jpg
osiris as third eye, between two horus eyes
hunkahunka
23-02-2009, 12:05 AM
You killed your mother . You killed your mother. You killed your mother.
This short video shows how psychic driving can be used to imprint a false reality on victims of MKultra monarch programming. One victim in Canada recounts how he was shackled, drugged, and programmed to believe that he had killed his mother.
It is now officially on the record that the CIA and Canadian government jointly funded MKultra brainwashing and torture experiments at a mental institution in Montreal. This poor man is able to clearly recall the taped message that was played in his ears for 23 days. Heaven knows what else may have been done to him during that time. (all of the victims report missing time, amnesia, and trauma, so this may be only a partial memory of what was done to him)
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfK3qfdmGqc
runciter
23-02-2009, 01:51 PM
I did a search on 'theta iris'
and came up with the web page of phi chi theta, a business education fraternity:
http://www.phichitheta.org/iris/
their newsletter is called the iris
http://www.phichitheta.org/img/IRIS2008.jpg
oz iris
http://graphicleftovers.com/images/206/062.jpg
gold, wealth, power..
http://www.theargonath.cc/stuff/fotrobservation66.jpg
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/album.php?albumid=277&pictureid=2430
note the 'The' inside the O
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crap the pic isnt coming up. it was supposed to be this oscars poster from another thread.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/album.php?albumid=277&pictureid=2430
runciter
23-02-2009, 03:00 PM
:cool:
http://estaralaultima.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/oscars2009poster.jpg
havnt checked this one out yet, but i got it from another forum
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Buckingham Palace butler 'ran paedophile sex ring while working for the Royal Family'
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 4:54 PM on 01st October 2008
Add to My Stories A former Buckingham Palace butler has been unmasked as a sexual predator who ran a paedophile ring while serving the Royal Family.
Bachelor Paul Kidd, 55, groomed at least one of his teenage victims for sex by taking him for tea with the Queen Mother at Clarence House, it has emerged.
To the public, he had been the urbane gent who waited on the Royals for nine years - first the Queen at the Palace and then her mother.
He often publicly gushed about his blue blood employers talking of the Queen as 'courteous and genuinely caring.'
Former Royal butler Paul Kidd has admitted 29 sex charges involving three boys
But behind the facade, Kidd was leading a secret double life as a serial child abuser who molested a string of boys over a 30 year period.
He was finally exposed after one of his victims read a newspaper article in which he boasted about his links to the Royals and talked fondly of Princess Diana and her musical tastes.
Police raided his two bedroom home in St Johns Street, Stalybridge, where they found almost 19,000 pornographic pictures and videos of children.
Included in the haul were some nude pictures of a teenager who officers were able to trace and interview.
Some images were hidden in a safe while others were encrypted on his computer.
Kidd admitted 29 sex charges involving three boys namely indecent assault, sexual activity with a child and the possessing and making of indecent images of children between December 1974 and January 2008.
An accomplice David Hobday, 56, of St Johns Street, Dukinfield admitted seven charges involving one of the victims of sexual activity with a child and possessing indecent images. Both men face a maximum 14 years in jail.
A police source said: 'Kidd was a very accomplished groomer of children.
Kidd has been remanded in custody and faces 14 years in jail if convicted
'Given that he has been behaving like this for 30 years the likelihood is there could be many other victims out there who have not yet come forward.
'This man used his Royal connections to impress and seduce young boys. He even had autographed pictures of Manchester United players on his walls at home.
'He was acting with at least one other man and it's possible he could have been communicating with many other paedophiles over many years.
'These offences are probably just the tip of the iceberg.'
Kidd had honed his skills as a silver service waiter when he joined the Royal Navy after leaving school - looking after the captain and officers.
During his naval service he visited 22 countries around the world. In 1976 he was appointed as butler to the Queen at Buckingham Palace and served there for six years until being transferred to Clarence House where he served the Queen Mother.
During his years in Royal service, he was said to have met and looked after three American Presidents including Jimmy Carter and Ronald Regan plus many other Heads of State from around the world.
He was also said to have worked closely with Princess Diana at Buckingham Palace in the six months prior to her wedding to Prince Charles.
In 1985 he gave up Royal Service due to a cancer scare but then started charging up to £4,000 a time as an after dinner speaker talking about his work with the Royal Family.
He ran a series of lectures including one he called: An uncomfortable experience for the Queens page boy.
Kidd also starred on numerous TV chat shows in the UK and USA including the Caroline Rhea show in New York.
He also appeared on stage with Hollywood actor Robin Williams at the Nemacolin Spa & Resort Centre in the USA.
He joined Robert Kilroy Silk's UK Independence party standing unsuccessfully as a candidate in local council elections.
In one interview Kidd said of the Queen: 'She was always very courteous, but she only ever addressed me as 'Kidd' - never by my first name.
'She deals with people in a genuinely caring manner. Her children are the future of the country, they cannot be brought up in a namby-pamby manner.
'But in private, as a mother and grandmother, she dotes on the children.'
Police began investigating Kidd earlier this year after a victim, now 41 read a newspaper article about Kidd in which he talked about Princess Diana on the 10th anniversary of her death.
The victim was thought to be so disgusted by his bragging, he went to police and told officers how he was 14 when he was abused by Kidd after meeting him through a CB radio group.
Kidd introduced the lad to his Royal employers and took him for tea with the Queen Mother in the late 70s.
It is believed the victim even spoke to the Queen Mother - at a time when the late Royal had no idea he was being secretly abused by her servant.
It emerged he had met Kidd though a religious group when he was 14 and he was sexually accused and passed onto another paedophile.
A third victim later came forward to say he was abused in the 1980s when he was 15 after meeting him when Kidd was training to be a nurse.
At Minshull Street Crown Court, Manchester, Kidd and Hobday were told they would be sentenced on November 20 after probation officers complete a report assessing whether they are a risk to the public.
Various other charges will be allowed to lie on file.
Both were remanded in custody and Judge Mushtaq Khokhar told them: 'You have both pleaded guilty to serious offences and you will be under no illusion that the likely sentence is going to be custody.'
ok i know this thread has moved on from the nirvana aspect, but heres some stuff from another seattle band of the same era, alice in chains. some of their stuff was pretty interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn82dMFGN8g
Lyrics to Angry Chair :
Sitting On An Angry Chair
Angry Walls That Steal The Air
Stomach Hurts And I Don´t Care
What Do I See Across The Way
See Myself Molded In Clay
Stares At Me, Yeah I´m Afraid
Changing The Shape Of His Face
Candles Red I Have A Pair
Shadows Dancing Everywhere
Burning On The Angry Chair
Little Boy Made A Mistake
Pink Cloud Has Now Turned To Grey
All That I Want Is To Play
Get On Your Knees, Time To Pray Boy
I Don´t Mind, Yeah
I Dont Mind, I-I-I
Lost My Mind, Yeah
But I Don´t Mind, I-I-I
Can´t Find It Anywhere
I Don´t Mind
Corporate Prison We Stay
I´m A Dull Boy, Work All Day
So I´m Strung Out Anyway
Lonliness Is Not A Phase
Field Of Pain Is Where I Graze
Serenity Is Far Away
Say My Reflection And Cried
So Little Hope That I Died
Feed Me Your Lies, Open Wide
Weight Of My Heart, Not The Size
Pink Cloud Has Now Turned To Grey
All That I Want Is To Play
Get On Your Knees Time To Pray
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child in red in this one
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTGZOf1N6U
emerald
23-02-2009, 03:55 PM
A bit of ASIAN MK...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/KodaKumiTRICKCDOnly.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/Kkkcd.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/Kumifeelftw.PNG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Secret_CDonly_kodakumi.PNG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/Affectionftw.PNG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/KodaKumiBestFirstThingsCDOnly.jpg
emerald
23-02-2009, 03:58 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/-BoA_-_ID_peace_B.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/AtlantisPrincessBoA.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Boanewalbum.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/MadeInTwenty20CDOnlyBoA.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/200px-Valenti_low.jpg
runciter
23-02-2009, 08:24 PM
http://www.mathmlcentral.com/characters/glyphs/CapitalTheta_L.gif
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Going deeper into relaxation, you enter the elusive and mysterious Theta state where brain activity slows almost to the point of sleep, but not quite. Theta is the brain state where magic happens in the crucible of your own neurological activity. Theta brings forward heightened receptivity, flashes of dreamlike imagery, inspiration, and your long-forgotten memories. Theta can bring you deep states of meditation. A sensation of "floating." And, because it is an expansive state, in Theta, you may feel your mind expand beyond the boundaries of your body.
Theta rests directly on the threshold of your subconscious. In biofeedback, it is most commonly associated with the deepest levels of meditation. Theta also plays an important part in behavior modification programs and has been used in the treatment of drug and alcohol addiction. Finally, Theta is an ideal state for super-learning, re-programming your mind, dream recall, and self-hypnosis.
Theta waves range between 4-7 HZ. Theta is one of the more elusive and extraordinary realms we can explore. It is also known as the twilight state which we normally only experience fleetingly as we rise up out of the depths of delta upon waking, or drifting off to sleep. In Theta, we are in a waking dream, vivid imagery flashes before the mind's eye and we are receptive to information beyond our normal conscious awareness. Theta has also been identified as the gateway to learning and memory. Theta meditation increases creativity, enhances learning, reduces stress and awakens intuition and other extrasensory perception skills.
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hunkahunka
24-02-2009, 02:45 AM
listen to the lyrics to this song, which is the Bourne Identity theme song,
'Extreme Ways' (linked below)
the 'Bourne Identity' film itself was about an MKultra programmed assassin
the lyrics to the theme song sound like the story of a multiple remembering his younger days enjoying the adventure and confusion of what he was involved in (ie: there's always room in life for this, did you ever like it then) , then part of the song expresses how he had blocked all of the ugliness out (ie: I had to close down everything, I had to close down my mind Too many things to cover me , Too much can make me blind)
and then the programming starts to break down, and all the terrible blocked memories come flooding back again, and he starts remembering things and places
that he hadn't known before (ie: extreme ways are back again, extreme places I didn't know, Oh baby, then it fell apart, So many dirty things. You couldn't even believe)
then the final lines of the song can be interpreted as lamenting the predictable
late-twenties breakdown of programming
(Oh baby, oh baby
Then it fell apart, it fell apart
Oh baby, oh baby
Like it always does, always does)
video(Bourne Identity Trailer, with theme song 'Extreme Ways' in background)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-7DJFgooU
"Extreme Ways" lyrics
Extreme ways are back again
Extreme places I didn't know
I broke everything new again
Everything that I'd owned
I threw it out the windows, came along
Extreme ways I know move apart
The colors of my sea
Perfect color me
Extreme ways that help me
That help me out late at night
Extreme places I had gone
But never seen any light
Dirty basements, dirty noise
Dirty places coming through
Extreme worlds alone
Did you ever like it then
I would stand in line for this
There's always room in life for this
Oh baby, oh baby
Then it fell apart, it fell apart
Oh baby, oh baby
Then it fell apart, it fell apart
Oh baby, oh baby
Then it fell apart, it fell apart
Oh baby, oh baby
Like it always does, always does
Extreme songs that told me
They helped me down every night
I didn't have much to say
I didn't get above the light
I closed my eyes and closed myself
And closed my world and never opened
Up to anything
That could get me along
I had to close down everything
I had to close down my mind
Too many things to cover me
Too much can make me blind
I've seen so much in so many places
So many heartaches, so many faces
So many dirty things
You couldn't even believe
I would stand in line for this
It's always good in life for this
Oh baby, oh baby
Then it fell apart, it fell apart
Oh baby, oh baby
Then it fell apart, it fell apart
Oh baby, oh baby
Then it fell apart, it fell apart
Oh baby, oh baby
Like it always does, always does
hunkahunka
24-02-2009, 03:47 AM
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/02feb/RICR-090219.php
Ben Singleton of Pseudoccult media was just recently interviewed by Henrik Paulmgren on Red Ice radio.
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Ben Singleton - Pseudoccult Media
February 19, 2009
We follow the theme discuss of the Media and the Occult with our guest Ben Singleton from Pseudoccult Media. We going into intriguing and ugly area of Mind Control, Celebrities, Artists, Pop Culture, the Music Video Scene. We're talk about examples, people, common themes, the symbolism, triggers and key elements of certain Music Videos, TV Series and Films. Topics discussed: Kylie Minogue, Rihanna's Disturbia, Mariah Carrey and her handler Richard Branson, Butterflies, Rainbows and Pentagrams. We discuss concert costumes, dolls, robots, (Pussycat dolls), Cats, Katy Perry, Anna Nicole, Britney Spears, Michael Jacson, Neverland, The Luxor Hotel, Ventriloquist, David Lynch, Jennifer Lynch, Mulholland Drive, Twin Peaks, Abuse that runs in the family, Bloodline celebrities, Sex and Blackmail. Don't miss segment two, we continue talking about the Ugly side of showbiz: Britney Spears, Disney 33 Club, Polanski, Coppola, Pedophilia, Lewis Carroll and Alice in Wonderland. We also discuss TV series. United States of Tara, Spielberg, Taken, The Black-Ops and mind control aspect of E.T., Miley Cyrus/Hanna Montana, alters, spies, the country western music scene, Dolly Parton, Princess Di, Papparazzi, Jon Bonnet Ramsey, Blackmailing of Politicians by the use of Mind Controlled Sex Slaves and much more.
audio:
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/02feb/RICR-090219-bsingleton-low.mp3
hunkahunka
24-02-2009, 01:45 PM
Having previously posted the 'Bourne Identity' trailer , I also watched Moby's 'Extreme Ways' television video below for mind control clues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8eV7suSA4k
apart from Moby looking exactly like William Burroughs at 2:33, the clues are buried in the blurred scenes that flash throughout. You can see a vibrator in one shot, a bondage gag on an asian girl in another , blood on the body of a dancer in another, a masonic square framing the stage, and it appears to be shot in a subway tunnel, denoting underground/secret activity, with some sort of bondage theme trapeze show going on above. People are suspended from ropes and chains and fighting mid-air, being swung at eachother, which would imply that they are puppets, under outside control , possibly a metaphor for the underground being some kind of death-defying circus for those involved.
[also the contrast:
a hidden tunnel/underground contrasted with the spectacle of
a high altitude trapeze show reminds of the motto 'As above, so below']
hunkahunka
24-02-2009, 02:14 PM
ok i know this thread has moved on from the nirvana aspect, but heres some stuff from another seattle band of the same era, alice in chains. some of their stuff was pretty interesting.
hi Stal, unfortunately those videos have embedding disabled. Would you please edit or repost this with direct links to the videos instead of embedding? (all you have to do is tag the links as [URL] instead of [media] and they will post ok.
hunkahunka
24-02-2009, 02:29 PM
You killed your mother . You killed your mother. You killed your mother.
this short video shows how psychic driving can be used to imprint a false reality on victims of MKultra monarch programming. One victim in Canada recounts how he was shackled, drugged, and programmed to believe that he had killed his mother.
It is now officially on the record that the CIA and Canadian government jointly funded MKultra brainwashing and torture experiments at a mental institution in Montreal. This poor man is able to clearly recall the taped message that was played in his ears for 23 days. Heaven knows what else may have been done to him during that time. (all of the victims report missing time, amnesia, and trauma, so this may be only a partial memory of what was done to him)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfK3qfdmGqc&feature=channel_page
the victimized man from the above video, Robert Logie, is completing a new Youtube documentary about what happened to him called 'Subliminus'.
His Youtube channel is here:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=photo986
In the 1950's and 60's the CIA and the canadian govt financed a doctor in montreal to carry out barbaric brain washing experiments on me and many others.
We sued and won both cases and now the Canadian Security Intelligence have me in a Terrorist Bank (No Legitimate Reason )I have to say this action by the C.S.I.S. is sicker then the barbaric brainwashing experiments on me in the 50's and 60's.
We were going to make a documentary but have decided to tell my story on you tube
it is called SUBLIMINUS. It will be up on the week of February 25th. It has been 50 years and the pain never goes away.
I have complained to the privacy Commissioner about the CSIS. she is independent and I believe she will rule in my favor and then I will take what ever action that I need to take.
Name: robert
Age: 70
My Hobby is photography
Country: Canada
hunkahunka
24-02-2009, 03:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Gy8TRgVDE&feature=related
hi Stal, unfortunately those videos have embedding disabled. Would you please edit or repost this with direct links to the videos instead of embedding? (all you have to do is tag the links as [URL] instead of [media] and they will post ok.
done. sorry about that. didn't see the disable.
mountain
24-02-2009, 05:06 PM
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Hey thanks, emerald! Glad someone posted another global aspect of this topic. I wanted to do the same, been thinking about it lately because Hollywood is everywhere actually.
Yea BoA as well as alot of Jpop princesses are definitely to be looked at carefully. We all know the ties the US gov has with Japan, man this is a tangled web. If we all analyze this properly we can see how deep the deception goes.
emerald
24-02-2009, 05:50 PM
I keep going...
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emerald
24-02-2009, 06:06 PM
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hunkahunka
26-02-2009, 06:04 AM
Hospital immortalized in 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' to be torn down
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Tuesday, July 15th 2008, 3:49 PM
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Oregon State Hospital, in Salem, where 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' was filmed. The institution is being torn down to make way for a new facility.
SALEM, Ore. - So long, Cuckoo's Nest.
Oregon State Hospital, the mental institution where the 1975 movie "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" was filmed, is making way for a new complex. Most of the dilapidated, 125-year-old main building will be torn down and replaced starting this fall.
Although mean Nurse Ratched was pure fiction, the Oregon State Hospital has struggled with some very real troubles over the years, including overcrowding, crumbling floors and ceilings, outbreaks of scabies and stomach flu, sexual abuse of children by staff members, and patient-on-patient assaults.
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Politicians had been talking for years about the need to replace the hospital, but didn't get serious about it until a group of legislators made a grim discovery during a 2004 tour: the cremated remains of 3,600 mental patients in corroding copper canisters in a storage room. The lawmakers were stunned.
"Nobody said anything to anybody," said Oregon Senate President Peter Courtney, who dubbed the chamber "the room of lost souls."
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Oregon State Hospital farm
The remains belonged to patients who died at the hospital from the late 1880s to the mid-1970s, when mental illness was considered so shameful that many patients were all but abandoned by their families in institutions.
"It just created such an emotional momentum" for replacing the hospital, said Courtney, who led the effort to build a new institution.(yeah, right, 'emotional momentum was all that it was)
Although "Cuckoo's Nest" was filmed here, neither the movie nor the 1962 Ken Kesey novel on which it was based makes any specific references to Oregon State Hospital. Kesey drew on his experiences working at a veterans hospital in Palo Alto, Calif., and set his satirical story at an unnamed institution in Oregon.
Actor Michael Douglas, co-producer of the movie, scouted various West Coast locations and chose the Oregon institution because then-Superintendent Dean Brooks agreed to give the moviemakers unfettered access.
"They wanted to make it on location with real patients," said Brooks, now 91, who was given a speaking part as a weak-willed doctor who acquiesces to Nurse Ratched. Brooks said 89 patients were hired as extras.
Douglas, Jack Nicholson (who played the rebellious Randle Patrick McMurphy) and Louise Fletcher (Nurse Ratched) were regulars at the hospital during shooting.
Milos Forman, the director, lived for six weeks at the institution and had his actors study real patients, according to a 1975 account in Rolling Stone magazine. Nicholson became depressed because of what he saw, including electroshock being administered to a patient.
hunkahunka
26-02-2009, 06:12 AM
The Salem Witchcraft trials 1692:
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/salem/salem.htm
these trials took place in Salem, Massachusetts
interesting to note that Salem, Oregon was named after Salem, Massachusetts,
by David Leslie from Salem, Massachusetts
Salem borders Eugene (Emerald City)
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"they tried to change her brain and personality around to forget me by giving her over to a mind control doctor named Dr Pharr in Portland to try to re-parent her which was one of the names they used in that new age era."
Love Runs Wild
Courtney Love's father, Hank Harrison, discusses his rocker daughter
April 16, 2004
Court TV Host: Talk live online to Courtney Love's estranged father, Hank Harrison. Love is facing a trial on felony drug charges in Beverly Hills, California, where she is scheduled to be arraigned on April 30th. Hank Harrison was just on Catherine Crier Live, and he's going to be chatting with us here.
Court TV Host: Welcome, Mr. Harrison, thank you for being our guest today.
Hank Harrison: Thank you.
Court TV Host: Anything you didn't get a chance to say on air that you'd like to begin with before we take questions?
Hank Harrison: Okay. I came prepared today to discuss the death of Robert Pastorelli on April 8th. Pastorelli died in his home from an overdose of morphine and vomited all over himself. He then was found with the needle still hanging from his arm. This is the typical way junkies die. It is considered an overdose or suicide. In this case it was ruled an accident by the Los Angeles Medical Examiner Clyde Reeves. I have the report right here, and it's available on The Smokinggun.com Pastorelli died typically, quickly, with the amount of heroin he had in his system. He had been addicted for several weeks prior to his death. The rebuttal that junkies build up a tolerance is only true to a certain extent. No one, not even an army mule, which was the analogy given earlier on the Crier show, can sustain the amount of heroin that was found in Kurt Cobain's body. However, the Pastorelli situation was typical due to the bodily fluids being rejected, whereas in the Cobain case the body was laid down and cleaned up, the needle was put back in the box, the tie-up was neatly rolled up in the cigar box, and the kind of heroin that was found in the syringe at the Cobain crime scene was black tar heroin which my experience tells me was not powerful enough in it of itself to create that much morphine toxicity. So anyone, regardless of what your agenda is, will see by comparing the Pastorelli case with Cobain's could see that something's wrong, because the vomit and other bodily fluids were nowhere to be found. Therefore, the conclusion is: somebody cleaned up the crime scene! Somebody cleaned up the body before it was laid to rest in that position. Here's the next part: if the crime scene had simply been scrubbed up, which is often the case when family interfere with crime scenes before the police get there, we wouldn't have much to talk about. But then the suicide theorists want us to believe that Kurt stood up, took a shotgun in his mouth and pulled a trigger after which he wiped off the fingerprints. These few things that I've mentioned are only two or three of the amazing contradictions that one finds in this case. And I haven't even mentioned murder yet or motive. Now I'll take questions.
Question from Shell: People say that Robert may have murdered his girlfriend years ago. Do you believe there is any truth to that?
Hank Harrison: I have no idea. I'm merely using the current forensics to establish a point. It merits investigation because she died in '99. Six years is a long time to carry a torch which would wind up in suicide. However I was only using the Pastorelli case as an example of the forensic dissimilarities.
Question from isis: When you said that Courtney was a fraud and manipulated the media, what did you mean?
Hank Harrison: How could you be more clear than that? (Laughs.) I mean the media all and all is pretty stupid, and the public is pretty gullible. If NBC can have big shows like Apprentice and have it be #1, I don't know what's left of TV. Courtney has spent millions of dollars of Kurt's money especially buying television, radio, and print media. No one ever seems to wonder how someone who's never had a hit record managed to get that much ink. The answer is she pays for it. She hires publicists with every extra dollar to guarantee her appearances on Letterman or Leno. To get on Jay Leno she went up to his door with a black cat -- she knew Leno was fond of cats. She walked up to his house, rang the bell and asked if he wanted to adopt another cat. That's how Courtney and Jay met. But Jay doesn't know that she's being pulling that same scam for 25 years! Sometimes it's a puppy, it's a kitten or just herself looking bedraggled. She gets people to take her in that way emotionally. One has to be very firm with people like Courtney; alcoholics and junkies are very manipulative. Add to that the fact that Cournety's mother is a 150 IQ and I have a 131 IQ and a photographic memory. Courtney has both You can imagine what she's capable of. She IS a rocket scientist -- if she wanted to be.
Question from Pammy: Sir, how long have you and your daughter been estranged?
Hank Harrison: I never thought I was estranged from Courtney. Courtney tells people that in the media. The answer is probably since the baby was born. She told me in 1993 the year before Kurt died that I could go up to Seattle to see the baby and meet Kurt. She did not tell me that the week before our meeting she had solicited his murder/assassination to a guy named Eldon Hoke a.k.a. Il Duce and of the Mentors rock punk band. Il Duce was hit by a train two years later, but only after passing several lie detector tests. I was fortunate enough to speak to Il Duce in person and on the telephone. Once in Chicago I bought him dinner and drinks in '97 when he was doing the Jerry Springer show. At that time he looked me in the eye and said he did it. He's disreputable, but I believed him. My heart sank again. Add to that the kind of "father bashing" she spent so much money on -- hatchet jobs, attacks on my career and wife and so forth causes me to wonder why she would protest so much unless I hit a vital nerve.
Question from JohnMark: How was your relationship with your daughter before you wrote your book and how is it now, after the book is out?
Hank Harrison: My book is not out yet. That is a misunderstanding. The book to which you are referring is probably the book by Halperin and Wallace That book came out in '98 or '99 as "Who Killed Kurt Cobain?" and has been rehashed now under "Love Kills." And I cooperated with the original book but not the second book because in the meantime I had a falling out with Halperin. My book is looking for a publisher now. It is finished. It is 700 pages thick, and I assure that I am a professional writer. Almost nothing in my book overlaps anything in the Love Kills book. But Courtney has spent an unimaginable amount of money attempting to suppress my book and career. She doesn't want my book to come out. She can handle Halperin and Wallace--they haven't got a clue. They just suspect -- they have plausible suspicions. But I have exact knowledge of places, date, and times, and I have letters both from Courtney as well as Kurt's family, even President Clinton in my book.
Question from Caren: Why do you seem so willing to "hang out" with Courtney, as you stated? What do you hope to accomplish by doing that? And why would you want to "hang out" with a so-called murderer?
Hank Harrison: Very good. Here it is: First, I had a heart attack in January, followed by a mini stroke. I want to see my granddaughter before I kick the f--king bucket. Hasn't anyone gotten that yet? I am 63! People who ask that question are almost always not parents.
Question from Shell: Have you given up hope that your daughter can pull her life together, if not for herself, then at least for her child?
Hank Harrison: Absolutely not. She's full of hope and so am I. She's got more guts than anybody you'll ever meet. And I do love her -- I want people to know that. She 's a lot like me. If I hadn't gone to therapy I'd be just like her. She's me without therapy. I wish she would go and get some with all that money she's got.
Question from annarocket: Why doesn't Courtney want to have a relationship with you?
Hank Harrison: Because I'm an a-hole. (Laughs.) Because she knows I know all of her tricks. You can't function in a world where everyone knows your tricks. I taught her all of those tricks. I didn't manage the Grateful Dead for seven years and not learn something.
Question from Sckare: What's the strongest piece of evidence you have against Courtney about Kurt ?
Hank Harrison: The forensics are very strong that Kurt was murdered. But much weaker when it comes to pointing the finger directly at Courtney Love. Courtney used this guy Tom Grant as a patsy to establish an alibi on Easter Sunday 1994. Kurt was probably in a coma at that time she was in LA. I cannot prove that Courtney killed Kurt. However, it's pretty obvious that somebody did. There's another forensic element that needs to be discussed. When Kurt's body was found there were two fresh needle marks on his left arm opposite the elbow. Kurt was left handed. No one who ever used drugs with him ever saw him inject drugs into his left arm. Therefore, I pretty much conclude that whoever did the actual injection was either very stupid or did not know that Cobain was left-handed. Again that doesn't answer the earlier question. There was one thing that is ominous and difficult to rationalize: no one involved in the case was ever able to trace Courtney to an airplane flight on Easter or the Monday after Easter. Although Kurt was easily traced via his credit card and his United Airlines computer documentation. However, two flights were recorded from LAX to Boeing field in Seattle during that time frame. Both were private jets. Add to this the fact that it is well known that she bragged about it a lot -- that Courtney always had a private jet at her disposal as part of the "Geffen arrangement". But again, that has to do with the cover-up after the fact. The people who helped her cover up what happened were frightened for their own mistakes, they did not have anything to do with killing Kurt but they had a lot do with covering it up after the fact. In order to prove that those jets were used one would have to prove they were Geffen corporate. In order to prove that Rosemary Carol the attorney was engaged in a conflict of interest situation, you would have to subpoena Collico records to see what Rosemary had written in any reports. Although one wonders why Kurt and Courtney had the same lawyer.
Question from Inc: What kind of little girl was Courtney?
Hank Harrison: All that stuff is in my book. Wonderful, brilliant beautiful child. All areas. Easy to get along with. Never caused any trouble until she was seven or eight, and then they took her away from me. An interesting point to be brought up here, and I hope it is not too self-serving, but in 1971 I was in a Zen monastery when I got the subpoena to come to court to defend myself as to why I should not allow adoption of my daughter to Frank Rodriguez because the assumption was because I was in a Zen monastery, and they were Catholics and that I had very little money. It looked like I abandoned her. At that time, 1971, Mr. Rodriguez was asked the following question by the court: "Are you now and forever more capable of providing a healthy and secure environment for said child?" Answer under oath: "Yes." Fact: Rodriguez and Rodriguez were separated and filing for a divorce when that statement was made. Thus, he perjured himself. Mysteriously, all of those documents were lost in the basement of San Francisco, and I could never find them. Here's the kicker: 1997 rolls around and my attorney of record on that case, one Dennis B. Natali, was shot dead on the street by a gang of Vietnamese thugs to silence him from testifying in a federal case. When that happened a few months later his widow allowed some of his clients to go into his office and get documentations pertinent to their cases. Lo and behold, there was the entire adoption case sitting in a cardboard box in his office. Now I have all the documentation I need. Because I was denied due process to reopen that case, and prove that Rodriguez perjured himself. Guess who has my granddaughter right now? Frank Rodriguez, the second husband, even though Linda Carol, my wife, Courtney's mother, married three other guys after Frank, Frank is still messing with my life! That's how far back this bad karma goes. Frank was the one who put Courtney in a mental hospital and several foster homes and juvenile halls. Even though my own sister wanted her to come and live with in San Francisco, and my sister is a social worker.
Court TV Host: You mentioned that documents related to the initial case were lost -- how did your dead lawyer, Natali, how did he end up with the documents?
Hank Harrison: They were answers and depositions to his filings, counter filings and counter suits because I fought hard. At the time it didn't look good with me being the manager of a rock band like the Grateful Dead.
Question from Pammy: Sir, what is your hope of the outcome of all this? a new investigation?
Question from Shell: Aren't you concerned that your discussions might prompt a new investigation in which Courtney could be indicted for murder?
Hank Harrison: Okay, the answer is simple, there will never under any circumstances be a new investigation in Seattle. And I don't know enough about the law to speculate on a federal involvement being the fact that they crossed state lines during the commission of the crime. But I can reiterate: the state of Washington, the city of Seattle will never reopen the case. They did not like Kurt or the grunge movement. Kurt said things to offend the local gentry and constabulary, such as: "Happiness is a rock in a cop's face." And that's just one of them. Seattle has nothing to gain by opening the case because it's going to make them look bad. And it may end up with lawsuits because several people killed themselves under the assumption that it was a suicide.
Question from Caren: Out of curiosity, if you did not raise her & have barely known her personally for many years, how do you feel you can comment on anything she does?
Question from Caren: How do you know what she does for the past 25 years, when you have not been directly involved with Courtney? Do you think maybe you are obsessed with your daughter's fame and using that to get your name out there?
Hank Harrison: (Laughs.) First, those are good questions. I'm already famous -- I've been famous since I was 17. I have several inventions, patents and copyrights, and I've been in Who's Who in the World and America since '92. I was organically in Who's Who in the West in the early '70s My original book on the Grateful Dead was a bestseller. That said, I have been tracking down the secrets of the Holy Grail for the last 20 years or more. And have come to some very, very profound conclusion including a great deal of study in the libraries of Europe. Courtney is my only child. I raised her until she was seven. Lost track of her for nine years, found her again in juvenile hall in Salem, Oregon, got her out, demonstrated to her while she was still a minor that she had over a million dollars in trust which her mother was keeping from her. Second, her mother told her I was dead. Third, they tried to change her brain and personality around to forget me by giving her over to a mind control doctor named Dr Pharr in Portland to try to re-parent her which was one of the names they used in that new age era. I was not around at the time. However, since 1979 I've been in touch with everything she's done every day of her life as much as I can in any circumstances. She lived with me in Ireland, and in Sausalito, San Francisco. She moved with me several times until I moved to Europe and came back in '82. She lived with us again and practiced Sugar Babylon and her other bands in my basement. I knew all of her friends and most of her boyfriends growing up. So don't say I "don't know anything about her." I taught her to write poetry and I taught her to read until she surpassed me and was on her own. I taught her to use the library.
Question from Inc: Do you love your daughter?
Question from DetroitRockCity: Do you still love Courtney?
Hank Harrison: Yes, very much. However strange that may seem. I'm also very proud of her. For stuff that she's done that one can be proud of.
Question from nolo: What would you say to Courtney if she called you on the phone right now?
Question from Inc: What would you like to say to Courtney today if she is watching the chat?
Hank Harrison: First of all, my granddaughter is a known equestrian and well trained horseback rider. My wife is an Olympic trainer. It would make sense to get those two together. Courtney is welcome at my house anytime, as long as she manages to show the same respect as she would at anybody's home. I think sometimes my wife would go completely nuts if she showed up, because my wife knows her very well, having met her in Ireland, and Liverpool and elsewhere over the years.
Court TV Host: Any closing thoughts?
Hank Harrison: My book needs to come out to answer all these questions. I am a publisher, but publishing it myself would make it look like a vanity press. Dozens of other people have exploited the Cobain situation -- I will probably make no profit from the publication of my book and will give all my proceeds to suicide prevention and homeless charities.
Court TV Host: Thank you very much for being our guest.
runciter
26-02-2009, 09:54 AM
http://www.salemweb.com/tales/images/corwinhse.jpg
^ salem witch house
http://www.partydomain.co.uk/d-commerce/media/main/2/22881.jpg
http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/images/giza.jpg
hunkahunka
26-02-2009, 02:52 PM
audio:
http://freedom-center.org/audio/download/230/MadnessRadio-2006-04-05JohnJudgeGovernmentMindControl.mp3
John Judge was active in the 1970s psychiatric survivor movement and is now special assistant to Congressperson Cynthia KcKinney. Judge discusses MKULTRA and other US psychiatric mind control experiments, which involved torture of thousands of mental patients. Judge also looks at the Jonestown massacre, LSD, and the convergence of Nazism (Jewznyism) with the roots of biomedical psychiatry.
hunkahunka
26-02-2009, 04:07 PM
audio:
http://beyondthegrassyknoll.com/audio/fotheringham.mp3
Ritual Abuse Survivor Trish Fotheringham,
Contributor to the book “Ritual Abuse in the 21st Century”
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51eJ2zVYASL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
hunkahunka
26-02-2009, 05:22 PM
Here is Part 1 of 'Subliminus', the new documentary by MkUltra victim Robert Logey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_17o0dTg1Gk&feature=channel
Once known as Ravenscrag, this mansion perched on the side of Mount Royal in Montreal was donated to the Royal Victoria Hospital in 1940 for research into psychiatry by the heirs of Sir Hugh Allan, founder of the Allan Steamship Lines, and one of the richest men in the world. The Allan is notorious for its role in the CIA's Project MKULTRA, the Agency's initiative to develop mind control techniques which were implemented at the hospital by Dr. Ewen Cameron.
interesting is that Robert Logie mentions in this video that when he was 18 going on 19, he was working at Canadian Pacific Railway, had received three promotions,
and then was thrown into mind control programming.
This ties in with the railway link to the whole 'underground' thing. Could it be that Logie was being groomed to go higher in the railway network underground, but first had to be 'prepared' in some way?
emerald
26-02-2009, 05:40 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Amii_Stewart_-_Knock_On_Wood.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Amii_Stewart_-_Paradise_Bird.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/38/Amii_Stewart_-_The_Hits_(1985).jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/Amii_Stewart_-_Love_Affair.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/Amii_Stewart_-_Knock_On_Wood_-_The_Best_Of_Amii_Stewart.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Saturday_Night_Exp.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6c/Jody_Watley_-_Intimacy.jpg
hunkahunka
26-02-2009, 07:51 PM
interesting is that Robert Logie mentions in this video that when he was 18 going on 19, he was working at Canadian Pacific Railway, had received three promotions,
and then was thrown into mind control programming.
This ties in with the railway link to the whole 'underground' thing. Could it be that Logie was being groomed to go higher in the railway network underground, but first had to be 'prepared' in some way?
http://www.clydesite.co.uk/articles/ravenscrag.jpg
this Ravenscrag torture mansion on Mount Royal
is connected to an underground Canadian Pacific Rail tunnel that goes
beneath Mount Royal Park :
(if you check the following map, you will spot the CP rail route directly beneath Ravenscrag/Mount Royal)
http://www.imagegalore.com/images/J7B73125.bmp
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ravenscrag+montreal&sll=49.93708,-109.083252&sspn=3.196315,6.723633&ie=UTF8&ll=45.532327,-73.581276&spn=0.108706,0.210114&z=12&iwloc=A
Also, this gets even more interesting:
the same tunnel directly
connects to the nearby Queen Elizabeth Hotel, (another Fairmont rail hotel, like the Banff Springs Hotel and Olympic hotel, linked to Cobain and Frances Farmer ) which was completed one year before Logie was locked in Ravenscrag, btw. There is a rail station directly beneath the hotel , and this route accesses the Amtrak service direct to New York City.
This tunnel system is part of the largest underground complex in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_City,_Montreal
Underground City, Montreal
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Montreal's Underground City (officially RÉSO or La Ville Souterraine in French) is the set of interconnected complexes (both above and below ground) in and around Downtown Montreal, Quebec, Canada. It is also known as the indoor city (ville intérieure), and is the largest underground complex in the world.[1]
All portions of the indoor city (ville intérieure) are not underground.[citation needed] The connections are considered tunnels architecturally and technically, but have conditioned air and good lighting as any building's liveable space does. Many tunnels are large enough to have shops on both sides of the passage. With over 32 kilometres (20 mi) of tunnels spread over more than twelve square kilometres (5 sq mi), connected areas include shopping malls, hotels, banks, offices, museums, universities, seven metro stations, two commuter trains, a regional bus terminal and the Bell Centre amphitheatre and arena. There are more than 120 exterior access points to the underground city. Each access point is an entry point to one of 60 residential or commercial complexes comprising 3.6 square kilometres (1.4 sq mi) of floor space, including 80% of all office space and 35% of all commercial space in downtown Montreal.[citation needed] In winter, some 500,000 people use the underground city every day.[citation needed] Because of its Underground City, Montreal is often referred to as "Two Cities in One."
With over 32 kilometres (20 mi) of tunnels spread over an area of 12 square kilometres (4.6 sq mi), the 60 residential and commercial complexes comprise 3.6 square kilometres (1.4 sq mi) of floor space, including 80% of all office space and 35% of all commercial space in downtown Montreal. Services include shopping malls, hotels, banks, offices, museums, concert halls, universities, seven metro stations, two commuter train stations, a bus terminal and the Bell Centre. There are more than 120 exterior access points to the underground city. Some 500,000 people use the underground city every day, especially to escape the traffic and/or Montreal's harsh winters and hot summers.
runciter
01-03-2009, 04:54 PM
Candy says I've come to hate my body
and all that it requires in this world
Candy says I'd like to know completely
what others so discreetly talk about
I'm gonna watch the blue birds fly over my shoulder
I'm gonna watch them pass me by
Maybe when I'm older
What do you think I'd see
If I could walk away from me
Candy says I hate the quiet places
that cause the smallest taste of what will be
Candy says I hate the big decisions
that cause endless revisions in my mind
I'm gonna watch the blue birds fly over my shoulder
I'm gonna watch them pass me by
Maybe when I'm older
What do you think I'd see
If I could walk away from me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMEzfIO70A
Project BLUEBIRD
BLUEBIRD was the cryptonym for a CIA program involving special interrogation methods, including the use of drugs, hypnosis, and isolation. It lasted from 1949 to 1950 when it was renamed "ARTICHOKE", and would eventually become the infamous MKULTRA. Responsibility for the project mainly lay with the Office of Scientific Intelligence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_BLUEBIRD
BLUEBIRD
Deliberate Creation of Multiple
Personality by Psychiatrists
By Colin A. Ross MD
A 10-Page Summary
In this summary of Bluebird, Dr. Ross describes unethical experiments conducted by psychiatrists to create amnesia, new identities, hypnotic access codes, and new memories in the minds of experimental subjects. His research is based on 15,000 pages of documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. Dr. Ross is a past president of the International Society for the Study of Dissociation. Please help to spread the word.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg
humito
01-03-2009, 10:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtehDIWrX5U&feature=related
cobain hilariously sending up top of the pops /smells like teen spirit and Morrissey lol brilliant
hunkahunka
02-03-2009, 03:36 PM
Check out this ancient mental hospital , originally established as "Kansas Insane Asylum" in 1866, renamed "Osawatomie State Hospital" in 1901, the oldest mental hospital in Kansas, complete with a 760 acre farm.
http://www.srskansas.org/hcp/MHSIP/MHSIPOsawatomieStateMHHospital_clip_image001.jpg
Osawatomie State Hospital
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~asylums/os_ks/osview1.jpg
http://www.srskansas.org/osh/img/osview1.jpg
Rainbow Mental Health Facility is a 60-bed psychiatric hospital located in Kansas City, KS. It was built in 1973 as an extension of Osawatomie State Hospital and was converted to an independent facility in 1974.
soulja
02-03-2009, 06:14 PM
BLUEBIRD
Deliberate Creation of Multiple
Personality by Psychiatrists
By Colin A. Ross MD
A 10-Page Summary
In this summary of Bluebird, Dr. Ross describes unethical experiments conducted by psychiatrists to create amnesia, new identities, hypnotic access codes, and new memories in the minds of experimental subjects. His research is based on 15,000 pages of documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. Dr. Ross is a past president of the International Society for the Study of Dissociation. Please help to spread the word.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg
Very good article for beginners and sceptics imo.
BLUEBIRD blows the whistle on extensive political abuse of psychiatry in North America in the second half of the 20th century. Many thousands of prisoners and mental patients were subjected to unethical mind control experiments by leading psychiatrists and medical schools. Organized academic psychiatry has never acknowledged this history. The network of mind control doctors involved in BLUEBIRD has done a great deal of harm to the field of psychiatry and to psychiatric patients. My goal is to break the ugly silence. Page K
The participation of psychiatrists and medical schools in mind control research was not a matter of a few scattered doctors pursuing questionable lines of investigation. Rather, the mind control experimentation was systematic, organized, and involved many leading psychiatrists and medical schools. The mind control experiments were interwoven with radiation experiments, and research on chemical and biological weapons. They were funded by the CIA, Army, Navy, Air Force, and by other agencies including the Public Health Service and the Scottish Rite Foundation. Page F
The psychiatrists, psychologists, neurosurgeons, and other contractors conducting the work were imbedded in a broad network of doctors. Much of the research was published in medical journals. The climate was permissive, supportive, and approving of mind control experimentation. P. F, 1
There's your confirmed masonic connections, not that we didn't know the masons had their ''charitable'' hands in the MK projects but it's always good to have something as solid as that.
http://james.psych.umn.edu/scott_rite.html
http://www.srcf.ca/Pictures/AASRPoster.jpg
;)
hunkahunka
03-03-2009, 02:57 AM
video:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8603229737650916728&ei=QHusSeuRCYrEqQKqjc3OBA&q=rainbow&hl=en
hunkahunka
05-03-2009, 06:14 PM
.
There's your confirmed masonic connections, not that we didn't know the masons had their ''charitable'' hands in the MK projects but it's always good to have something as solid as that.
http://james.psych.umn.edu/scott_rite.html
http://www.srcf.ca/Pictures/AASRPoster.jpg
;)
very interesting, and Ravenscrag was originally the private mansion of
Sir Hugh Allan , a Scottish shipping magnate. Hugh Allan planned to build
the first national railway line extending into Western Canada. Just like the Skull n' Bones Harriman family were rail magnates, the Allan family were ship and rail tycoons. The Allan shipping line began
as a Scotland-to-Canada shipping line, and Hugh Allan was knighted by Queen Victoria in 1871
The Allan Memorial Institute
at Ravenscrag was named after Hugh Allan.
video:
In this short video, mkultra victim and survivor of Ravenscrag Robert Logie mentions that after leaving Ravenscrag, he moved to Kitchener, Ontario,
and from there moved, by rail, to Vancouver , Canada. This would have entailed a train trip of several days all the way from Ontario to the west coast of Canada. Logie says that he has no memory of having boarded the train nor any memory of the journey itself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsEKjf9HC4w&feature=related
hunkahunka
05-03-2009, 08:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0AFTR8pBRE&eurl=http://www.redicecreations.com/webcast/2009/03mar/RIW-090301.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-r1S1IJXoU&eurl=http://www.redicecreations.com/webcast/2009/03mar/RIW-090301.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rExBVQotv2A&eurl=http://www.redicecreations.com/webcast/2009/03mar/RIW-090301.html
hunkahunka
07-03-2009, 05:37 PM
http://www.srskansas.org/hcp/MHSIP/MHSIPOsawatomieStateMHHospital_clip_image001.jpg
Osawatomie State Hospital
Osawatomie is a city in Miami County, Kansas, United States, 61 miles (98 km) southwest of Kansas City. The population was 4,645 at the 2000 census. It derives its name from two rivers near by, the Osage and Potawatomie.
The Osage River is a tributary of the Missouri River, 360 mi (579 km) long, in central Missouri in the United States. The largest river entirely in Missouri, it drains a rural area of 15,300 sq mi (39,600 km²) on the north edge of the Ozark Mountains west to east across Missouri, with its watershed stretching into eastern Kansas
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Osagerivermap.png/600px-Osagerivermap.png
The Ozarks (also referred to as Ozark Mountain Country, the Ozark Mountains or the Ozark Plateau) are a physiographic, geologic, and cultural highland region of the central United States. It covers much of the south half of Missouri and an extensive portion of northwest and North central Arkansas. The region also extends westward into northeast Oklahoma and extreme southeast Kansas.
Origin of the name
Etymology of the name is a subject of speculation.
"Ozarks" is a toponym believed to be derived as a linguistic corruption of the French abbreviation "aux Arks" . " Aux arcs" is an abbreviation of "aux arcs-en-ciel", French for "toward the rainbows"
[Kansas , Arkansas, and Missouri were all part of he French territory Louisiane, acquired by the United States of America in 1803.
(see: Louisiana Purchase)]
Dorothy undergoes forced electroshock treatment in Disney's
'Return to Oz'
http://www.imagegalore.com/images/aEv47410.bmp
http://www.imagegalore.com/images/tzH47565.bmp
http://www.imagegalore.com/images/jU647503.bmp
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4081/689366newreturntoozdvdtiz6.jpg
http://www.waltdisneysreturntooz.com/Return%20to%20Oz%20Logo.jpg
hunkahunka
07-03-2009, 07:13 PM
Return to Oz Behind the Scenes
A behind the scenes documentary on Walt disney's movie Return to Oz.
http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/entertainment/watch/v1290904JFBNDTH5
Magic in These Hills
10 March 2007
Ozarks Witchcraft
I've got quite a vested interest in the lore and magic of my area, the Ozarks and I'd like to share some of that with the blogosphere. For those of you who don't know, I'm referring to the Ozarks highlands area that encompasses the southern half of Missouri and northern Arkansas as well as extreme southeast Kansas and northeast Oklahoma. This area has the culture and folklore very similar to that of Appalachia, with most of the locals being of Scotch, Irish or English decent. There's also the fact that the people of this region held on to their old ways longer than in other parts of the country. Unfortunately, I've never met anyone knowledgeable about the actual practice of witchcraft of the Ozarks. There may be some old folks who remember things their elders did but I've never met them. So I've had to turn to other sources. The primary written sources of information about the old Ozarks are the books of folklorist Vance Randolph. Luckily, I happen to own two of his books "Ozark Magic and Folklore" and "Pissing in the Snow and Other Ozarks folktales". These books are rich with superstitions, magic, herb usage and other interesting bits of Ozark culture. And, wow, what a culture it was.
First of all, the reader must understand that these folktales were collected and written down around the 1940s, so the mindset of these books is very different than from our modern neo-pagan movement. For instance, the author held most of these beliefs and practices he recorded in disdain and his writing style and word usage expresses that quite clearly. So if you ever decide to pick up any of his books you'll have to get past his sometimes derisive tone to get to the meat of the matter.
From the Ozarkers point of view in the first half of the last century the risk of being bewitched or otherwise negatively affected by witchcraft was a very real issue. The magic practiced by some is considered evil but the magic of other people is considered protection against evil. And as is often the case when studying witchcraft I've found that there are many tales in which the interested parties condemn magic of all kinds then turn around and speak an age-old rhyme while hanging up sometimes gruesome good luck charms. There were many different types of magic folks: power doctors, witch masters, white witches, faith doctors, goomer doctors, conjure folks, water witches, witch wigglers and yarb doctors. Now the water witches and witch wigglers were concerned with finding ley lines and water sources but the others specialized in fighting off the harmful magic of evil witches; the yarb doctor was the local herbal healer. The most fascinating aspect of this old time magic is to be found in the chapter entitled "Ozarks Witchcraft" from the book "Ozarks Magic and Folklore". In it, a witches' initiation is described as a ritual repeated over three nights. As a part of initiation the would-be witch must renounce Jesus and the Christian church. Also included is intercourse between the new witch and the devil, i.e. the high priest. Sounds familiar doesn't it? It seems that the old witchcraft of Britain really did survive in these hills, just as it did in Appalachia.
hunkahunka
07-03-2009, 07:47 PM
Here is a clear reference to multiples in Return to Oz: 'Princess Mombi' is given 'the heads of 31 beautiful maidens' in reward for helping the Nome King conquer Oz.
http://www.waltdisneysreturntooz.com/Mombilogo1.jpg
http://www.waltdisneysreturntooz.com/Mombi2.jpg
Not born a Princess like normal royalty or like Princess Ozma. Mombi was in fact a witch, not a powerful Sorceress like Glinda. Now Mombi was not necessarily EVIL, only an outcast in her land.
When the Wizard came to Oz they made him a ruler, and he in secret took the baby princess Ozma (the rightful ruler) to be raised by Mombi. Ozma then grew up being Mombi's slave. But years later, after the Wizard left Oz in his Balloon, the Nome king confronted Mombi about Ozma. He told Mombi if she kept Ozma a secret from all of Oz he would give her the heads of thirty beautiful maidens in the Emerald City and make her a princess.
So Mombi enchanted her slave Ozma into the mirror, never to be seen again (or so she thought). She was now his ally at the Emerald City and she called herself from then forth "Princess Mombi".
http://www.imagegalore.com/images/cw150997.bmp
hunkahunka
07-03-2009, 08:02 PM
http://www.imagegalore.com/images/nEx52032.bmp
http://www.imagegalore.com/images/BnU52270.bmp
http://www.imagegalore.com/images/tb052499.bmp
The Kansas location on Return to Oz was actually filmed on Salisbury Plain, near Stonehenge. According to production designer Norman Reynolds, Salisbury Plain looks remarkably like Kansas. Reynolds just stuck 4,000 corn stalks into the ground. “Luckily I had spent two weeks in Kansas when I thought we were going to film there, so I knew what it looked like.
Return to Oz spent ten days on Salisbury Plain early in the Production schedule. It was cold and damp, and Fairuza had to lie in a lot of wet mud. “We were so tired by the end that we both got a virus,” her mother says. “We went to the doctor, and he said that there was no way to get over it. So Ruza just recovered during shooting.
emerald
08-03-2009, 01:14 PM
After MICHELLE OBAMA hand's sign, nows the turn of JENNIFER ANISTON:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4996/article1159327034972d80.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=article1159327034972d80.jpg)
emerald
08-03-2009, 01:27 PM
The official explanation for CRANBERRIES video SALVATION (from wiki):
"The music video for "Salvation" was directed in March 1996 by Olivier Dahan in France, for the company Bandits Productions.
It is one of the most acclaimed videos by the band's fans. It has a bizarre mood, and notorious references to drug use and abuse. It shows a clown with needles instead of hair, a confused girl whose parents are being held by the clown, all in a torn house at the top of a hill.
The bizarre images are supposed to represent the effects drugs have on people. The clown jumping on the teddy bear is a symbol of the loss of innocence, and the trapped parents show how drugs are a problem that affect not only the consumer, but also his or her close relatives/friends."
hunkahunka
08-03-2009, 05:52 PM
according to this link Osawatomie is pronounced 'Ozawatomie'
http://forvo.com/word/osawatomie/
There is a communist agitator group known as the Weather Underground Organization , (WUO) made up of 1960's radicals, who carried out bombings and other activities in protest of the Vietnam War and allegedly in support of communism. (still in existence today)
They published a news paper called Osawatomie, in honor of slavery abolitionist and 'underground railroad' proponent John Brown who
operated out of Osawatomie.
http://therealbarackobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/osawatomie-cover-spring-75-no-1.jpg?w=197&h=252
http://therealbarackobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/osawatomie-cover-summer-75.jpg?w=226&h=300
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b7/Weather_Underground_logo.jpg/250px-Weather_Underground_logo.jpg
Weather Underground logo
seems to be some connections to mind control here. Either the CIA created/set up this group of mk young radicals ( and encouraged violence )
to discredit the movement toward socialism/communism, or the New World Order crowd created them to do exactly what their stated goal was:
communist world government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_%28organization))
video:
documentary on the Weather Underground:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay4cgdq6g-o
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P3v207gPGE&feature=channel_page
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pycW1n3eO68&feature=channel
Part 3 seems to be missing
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kD3gijhAU&feature=channel_page
btw , Obama has been linked to this group:
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV_h-XwchkY&feature=related
interesting too:
the Weather Underground also had links to the Black Panthers and Malcolm X, who once worked as a porter for a railroad., and later used his access to an unlimited free rail pass for his activist travels. Also: Malcolm X's father was assassinated on railroad tracks.
hunkahunka
09-03-2009, 03:23 PM
quote:
Edge of a city
A publication ban means that few details of Pickton's preliminary hearing will enter the public domain as court proceedings unfold. Glimpses inside Pickton's personal life reveals a man who travelled in a sphere that encompassed sex trade workers and bikers.
http://www.missingpeople.net/balmoral_hotel.jpg
Many of the missing women lived in a string of hotels that dot Hastings Street.
Members of the Hells Angels partied at a venue dubbed Piggy's Palace that the Pickton brothers opened in rural Port Coquitlam. Politicians and locals were also known to attend events held inside the hall on Burns Road, located minutes away from the pig farm and near a manicured golf course.
A similar combination of elements intersects on Vancouver's downtown eastside. The area is known as an open shooting gallery that sits within eyeshot of the downtown core and the mainstream. A Vancouver police station borders "Low Track," the stroll where many of the missing women solicited customers.
A powerful chapter of the Hells Angels also have a stake in the area. One high-ranking member of the East End chapter had an interest in the No. 5 Orange strip club and Starnet, an Internet gambling and pornography company that was busted in the late 90s.
http://media.nowpublic.net/images//4f/1/4f134a27abdf438d41be72e5851bbe61.jpg
Starnet was located near the heart of the downtown eastside on Carrall Street. The company streamed live sex shows online from No. 5 Orange and was also known to distribute pornography depicting sadomasochistic scenes.
"Anything can happen down here. It's openly okay to sell down drugs here, it's openly okay to solicit prostitution, it's openly okay to break into anybody's vehicle, it's just like a war zone. The police are all over the place but they don't do anything," Steven Arsenault says.
Arsenault moved into an upscale loft near Main and Hastings which serves as the nerve centre for the area. A familiar Vancouver landmark, Carnegie Centre, is positioned on the corner of the busy intersection where locals mingle and drug transactions go down.
Some of the missing women lived in a hotel next door to Carnegie Centre called the Roosevelt. Dawn Crey and Andrea Joesbury were two of those women and they once socialized with Dinah Taylor -- a woman who moved out of the hotel to live with Pickton.
A series of reports suggest Taylor invited women from the eastside out to the farm after she moved out. Crey was reported missing in November 2000 following a lull in the disappearances. Joesbury disappeared in June 2001 and Pickton has been charged with her murder.
Dawn's brother Ernie Crey says he will be attending Pickton's preliminary hearing even though it will likely mean hearing some grisly details.
"I'm prepared to do that because of the memory of these women and also because I expect that some time in the near future the police will have information for me and my family about the disappearance of my sister," Crey told the Canadian Press.
The number of murder charges against Pickton has grown in tandem with the investigation as forensic experts carefully sift through the soil at the farm. While Pickton now faces 15 murder counts, family members say the DNA of other women has been found on the Pickton farm.
"On October 3rd, 2002 we were notified by the Missing Women's Task Force that our daughter's DNA was confirmed and found at the Pickton property in Port Coquitlam, B.C.
"The (police) strongly believe our daughter Angela Jardine is a victim. Her case is still an active investigation. We hope pray we will have justice in behalf of Angela," Deborah Jardine says at a website documenting her family's ordeal.
Dark side of the moon
What first drew Pickton to the eastside is unclear. For two decades he delivered pig entrails to a rendering plant located near the stroll where many of the missing women worked. He would also hang out at bars on the lower eastside even though he doesn't drink.
Investigators have collected thousands of DNA samples from two Pickton properties.
Some women from the area say they feared him and refused to go out to the pig farm, which is situated 35 kilometres away from the downtown core. One of the women who did venture out to the farm was Wendy Lynn Eistetter.
Pickton was charged with unlawful confinement and attempted murder after she escaped from the farm with knife wounds in 1997. Eistetter said she was handcuffed and attacked. Pickton said he attacked Eistetter in self-defence. The charges were stayed the next year.
Several women have come to Pickton's defence including Gina Houston who said she believed police were going to arrest her in connection with the case earlier this year. Pickton supporters have described him as a quiet man who often tried to help women working in the sex trade.
The Pickton siblings inherited the pig farm from their parents and sold portions of the land to developers for millions of dollars. But it appears the huge profits were offset by the enormous costs of preparing the swampy land for development.
Pickton's younger brother Dave has described himself as the organizer and the one who took care of their business interests which included a salvage operation. A report in the Vancouver Province said the Pickton brothers invested in a film tax shelter operated by Monarch Entertainment Corp. back in the 90s.
Dave, who is a divorced father of two grown children, was convicted of sexual assault in 1992. Police say he is not considered to be a suspect in the case. The brothers have an older sister who lives in an upscale neighbourhood in Vancouver.
During court proceedings, Ritchie has said that Pickton is a man of limited financial means, citing his stake in the family farm as his primary asset. The lawyer has described his client as an unsophisticated man anxious to get on with the legal proceedings.
Just as police have remained tight-lipped about their investigation, the defence has yet to give any hints about the strategy it will follow. Ritchie has said the complex case covers an enormous volume of evidence in his fight to have funding for Pickton's defence increased. He struck a deal with the government on Nov. 8.
Media reports say police have found purses, IDs, teeth, bone fragments, and blood at the farm. So far, investigators have reportedly collected more than 10,000 specimens from two Pickton properties in addition to thousands of samples of DNA. Family members were warned that investigators only expected to find body fragments when the probe began.
"It has all the hallmarks of a particularly horrible case because of the circumstances under which the women died, because of the methods through which their bodies appeared to be disposed of, because of the extraordinary vulnerability of the victims, and because the motivation for the killings remains unclear," Boyd says
hunkahunka
09-03-2009, 09:12 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Atkins
Susan Atkins
She dropped out of high school at 18 and went to San Francisco, where she supported herself as a secretary, an office gofer and topless dancer. During her time as a dancer, Atkins met Church of Satan founder Anton Szandor LaVey when she was hired for a stage production which featured her as a vampire.
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Atkins came into contact with LaVey in San Francisco after being released from the hoosegow, and danced in a show he organized called the Witches' Sabbath as a blood-swilling vampire. It was a precursor of things to come for the rootless girl.
She also resorted to dope-peddling to make ends meet. Atkins wound up living in a commune, where she met Manson, who had recently been sent to the San Francisco Bay Area after getting out of prison in 1967.
Sharon Tate was stabbed 16 times by Susan Atkins two years after making this film:
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Manson's Murder Movies
“The last taboo would be to actually kill someone in front of the cameras.”
--Nine years after Sharon Tate’s murder, Roman Polanski makes a cameo in CONFESSIONS OF A BLUE MOVIE STAR -- a film that includes a hoaxed interview with a snuff film director.
The television screen flickered to life showing a grainy and somewhat shaky close-up of a fifteen to eighteen year old Caucasian girl’s face. Her eyes are wide open and a strip of gray duct tape cris-crosses her mouth. The camera pulls back to reveal her naked torso handcuffed to a metal bed frame. Her head jerks side-to-side as low moans and the squeal of metal bedsprings can be heard. The camera pans down past the rest of her naked body and focuses on her feet -- each one wired to the ends of the bed frame.
The camera sways backward to show a larger view of the room... devoid of furniture, cracked crumbling plaster walls, black plastic trash bags cover the two windows. By the looks of the surroundings this was most likely filmed in an abandoned building -- maybe one located in your city or town. After some shaky camera movement, a large man wearing a gray sweat suit enters the picture. His head is covered by a blue wool ski mask. As he approaches the bed frame, the girl starts to twist and struggle.
The man beats the girl about the thigh and stomach with a closed fist. The camera swings around focusing between the impact spots of the punches and her face. The man then removes the bottom half of the sweat suit and rapes the girl. His hands are around her neck. Seven minutes later, he pulls his sweat pants to his waist and leaves the frame.
He returns moments later. The camera zooms in on his hand -- now holding gardening shears. He opens and closes them for the camera. The camera sways to the girls face. Her eyes are closed, and there is no indication of life. The man removes her nose and ears with the shears before cutting parts of her breast.
Four minutes later he rapes her for the last time before walking out of the camera’s view.
Moments later he returns with a hack saw and decapitates her corpse. He holds her head directly in front of the camera. It zooms in for a final close-up.
What you just read was the remembered transcript of a actual snuff film. The description of which was written in the least sensational style in the attempt not to arouse or inflame any unsound persons reading this article. It was viewed several years ago by Frank Schildener at the behest of a federal agent with whom he had a working relationship. It seems that this video was found by the Feds in the possession of a paroled sex offender in Frank’s caseload. Another video found in this creep’s collection was labeled BAGMAN TEN, in which a ten year old girl is bound and suffocated by a clear plastic bag placed over her head. Needless to say, Frank went above and beyond the line of duty to send “snuff-boy” back to prison. The sex offender later testified as the State’s witness against the people who sold these videos to him.
I asked Frank if these tapes could have been hoaxed. His response, “No Fucken way! As a Probation Officer in Newark, NJ, I have viewed autopsy photos of murdered children, victims of sexual assaults, and drug addicts so wasted they appeared to be inhuman. I’m not squeamish, but this display was more disgusting than anything I’d seen before or since. I know many people would like to claim snuff films, or now, video tapes, are merely special effects, but I will tell you this, if that was F/X, then the creator was both a sick pig and the possessor of technology dozens of years beyond Hollywood... and that’s not likely.”
Many people like to believe that snuff films are either nonexistent or the product of a lone murderer who is recording his violence so that he can relive them on a later occasion. They ite the evidence of SCREW magazine publisher Al Goldstein’s $25,000 bounty for anyone presenting him with a real snuff film, a reward that has never been paid to this date. These usually are the same people who deny any form of crime that they do not see before them or have immediate evidence of it’s existence. This brand of thinking has lead to the denial of the existence of the Sicilian Mafia, the sudden discovery of the cocaine derivative, crack (despite that it had been a common street drug for almost half a decade by then), and most terrifyingly, the underground market created for child molesters. In the latter case, child molesters are able to indulge their fantasies through illegal magazines, internet websites and even packaged tours of countries in which child prostitution is common.
“Pretty soon the girls would become victims of more than being sex objects. If outsiders moved in so easily for sex, they could just as easily started maneuvering some of the girls into heavier shit -- like chains, whips, blood-drinking, animal death and even human sacrifice.”
--Charlie Manson talks about some of the people he and his family met in Hollywood. From MANSON IN HIS OWN WORDS as told to Nuel Emmons
The term “snuff film” slipped into the backdoor of the American vernacular in 1971 when it was coined by author Ed Saunders in his assessment of the Manson homicides, THE FAMILY. Between its pages many startling claims are revealed. Saunders asserts that Manson and his band of true believers had in their possession three super-8 cameras at Spahn Ranch which they used to film many unusual events. According to ex-family member Vern Plumlee, most of the films made by Mason were “you know, just crazy movies.” A person tripping on bad acid, girls dancing naked around a bon fire slashing the air with knives, and the occasional orgy “with the added spice of a few famous faces and bodies”, would be shown on a screen made from a bed sheet at any given night at the ranch. I wonder who those “famous faces” were?
But not all of Manson’s films were harmless drug induced exploits of the free love generation. During one filming session a fifteen year old girl called Simi Valley Sherri was brutally raped by Manson’s clan with such savagery that Linda Kasabian (eyewitness to the Tate killing) declared, “The whole scene was perversion like I’ve never seen before.” Little did she know then that gang rape would be a cinematic appetizer for her leader Charlie.
Armed with the knowledge that photographic evidence of Charlie’s Family activity exists, Saunders went undercover posing as a New York pornographer with a taste for the bizarre. In no time at all he found an underground film broker who was selling seven hours of Manson’s porn films. The asking price for the films at the time of Manson’s pre-trial was a hefty $250,000.
He also discovered two most shocking rumors. The first: a man named Chuck, who claimed to be a close friend of “Family murder victim” Gary Hinman, maintained he had in his possession films of a “Malibu and San Francisco ax murders.” How pathetically ironic it would be if Hinman was involved with snuff activities at his beach house -- the same house where his own ear was sliced off by the sword wielding Manson before being stabbed to death by Bobby Beausoleil. Before the night of the Hinman carnage, Beausoleil had a promising film career of his own. In his first film he appeared as an angel in MONDO HOLLYWOOD with future “Family murder victim” Jay Sebring. Another time before the camera he and fellow Family member Gypsy played in the X-rated Western epic of rape, totture and murder, THE RAMRODERS. And in his most famous and only staring role, he acted opposite Church of Satan founder Anton LaVey (who play the devil as well being a technical advisor for Roman Polanski’s ROSEMARY’S BABY) in Kenneth Anger’s LUCIFER RISING. According to Bill Landis’ unauthorized biography of the 1960’s underground filmmaker, Anger himself had a run-in with the law in 1965 when he delivered raw footage of THE LOVE THAT WHIRLS to a local drug store for developing. The film contained scenes of a sadistic doctor “working guys over.” One of the masochists looked so beaten that the developer turned over the film to the police suspecting that “it was a possible snuff movie.” The doctor in the film was arrested and Anger was held for questioning. No charges were filed against Anger but all copies of the film were destroyed.
The second rumor: A famous New York artist purchased from a Los Angeles drug dealer a film “depicting the ritual murder of a woman.” (It is interesting to note that this passage only appears in the first printing hardcover of THE FAMILY, and in part two of this article you’ll find out why.)
Only after delving deeper into the muck of the porn film underground, Saunders finally unearthed an individual who witnessed a few of Manson’s snuff films. The anonymous source claims that Manson and his brood hooked up with a cult of devil worshippers known as the Process Church of the Final Judgment. Together they filmed nightly secessions at a unknown beach location that involved “two key Manson female followers” engaged in intercourse as blood from a recently killed dog is poured over their naked bodies. Another grizzly scene had a black-hooded group of five standing around the naked corpse of a decapitated woman. Saunders might have also suspected Hinman of being involved with this film due to the prior rumor, and also because of the snuff film’s location. He asked his source, “What was the name of the house?” Puzzled, his reply was, “It’s not a house. It’s just a beach.” Was Saunders trying to get him to implicate Hinman’s beach house? Maybe.
“We were invited to private parties in Beverly Hills, Malibu and other exclusive areas. A lot of the movie people shot up heroin, smoked opium, free-based and snorted cocaine... We had long ago chucked our inhibitions about sex, but chains, whips, torture, and other weirdness were not part of our routine.”
-- Manson enters Hollywood society, from MANSON IN HIS OWN WORDS as told to Nuel Emmons
Another interesting turn of events happened that could have advanced Manson’s snuff career just before Helter Skelter. Years before, Manson wrote the suicide-drenched tune CEASE TO EXIST for America’s favorite clean-cut band, the BEACH BOYS. With “death” not being part of the surf culture at the time, the group changed the lyrics to CEASE TO RESIST, now a song about sexual liberation -- groovy. Charlie wasn’t pleased with the change in context. He thought the children of the sixties would embrace his death-tripping vibes. Charlie decided that he wanted to be a rock star, so Dennis Wilson, friend and supporter of the Family, made a few telephone calls.
One of the people contacted was record producer Terry Melcher, the person that Roman Polanski rented the residence at 10050 Cielo Drive from. He and friend and soundman Gregg Jacobson took a ride to Spahn Ranch to hear Manson wail prison blues and folk gyrations on a beat-up acoustic guitar. According to Melcher’s side of the story, he took a pass on Manson’s musical talents, but, Charlie, and his ragged band of run-aways, interested Jacobson. He pitched a deal to Manson that he would produce a television documentary on Manson’s communal lifestyle. Charlie agreed.
During that time, Manson’s group ripped-off an NBC news truck. Though it is not mentioned, it is highly likely that this truck was sent to film Manson for Jacobson’s TV documentary. Charlie’s band got away with tens of thousands of dollars worth of broadcast quality video equipment. Equipment that could have made him a top player in the field of underground porn.
Shortly after the theft, the documentary was called off. Charlie had bigger plans in the works. (In 1978, Manson wrote a letter to a California newspaper claiming that Dennis Wilson supplied him with thousands of dollars worth of video equipment in order to penetrate a world-wide underground porno circuit. If Manson is telling the truth, Wilson could have been the one to encourage Jacobson to film a documentary about the Family in order for Charlie to steal the video equipment. Also the second part of the claim has Manson a fledgling player in a “worldwide” porno circuit. If this is true it is certainly not because Manson had an abundance of “pretty girls.” In fact his girls were so plain looking he couldn’t pimp them out as go-go dancers -- an idea he tried and failed. His only commodity would have been snuff films.)
hunkahunka
10-03-2009, 05:43 AM
Given what I suspect is fairly obvious what was going on at places like Osawatomie State Hospital
re: Oz programming/mk experimentation:
it is notable just how many 'places like Osawatomie State Hospital'
there really were.
I found that the floor plans of scores of gigantic insane asylums built over a period of 40 years in 19th century America, Canada, and Australia all had the same floor plans, and were essentially built according to the same plan. They were known as 'Kirkbride Buildings', because they all followed the same architectural model and were all essentially commissioned by the same group of planners.(the Kirkbride Plan)
http://www.kirkbridebuildings.com/
Today, many still stand, but almost all of them have been abandoned and many of them have been demolished.
There were at least one hundred of these gigantic bat-shaped asylums.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkbride_Plan
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Topeka State Hospital, Topeka, Kansas
Here is a comparison of just two of the Kirkbride asylum floor plans,
in this case Buffalo State Hospital and Topeka State Hospital:
http://www.kirkbridebuildings.com/blog/images/2008/07/21/2.jpg
To get a sense of the scale of this undertaking, consider how large these places were and how many of them there were, and the time period in which they were built,( starting in the mid-1800s ). The population of the U.S. was not very large at that time, yet at least one hundred of these places were built in just 40 years.
I contend that these were very large and elaborate facilities for the time in which they were built.
Considering that we now know what went on with healthy people and electroshock and mk programming in at least one of them.....and assuming that it is possible or likely that they were all built for the same purpose......
Could Fritz Springmeir be right about the scale of this ?
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as you can see , these were very big places
http://www.kirkbridebuildings.com/blog/images/2008/09/19/1.jpg
Buffalo State Hospital
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Topeka State Hospital
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Danvers State Hospital, Danvers, Massachusetts
the following link proves that Osawatomie State Hospital also had the same
floor plan as Topeka, Buffalo, and over a hundred other such facilities:
http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/56984/Kansas+State+Insane+Asylum/
http://kirkbridebuildings.com/blog/images/2008/10/09/1.jpg
Agnews State Hospital, SantaClara, California
hunkahunka
10-03-2009, 11:06 PM
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http://www.ozmuseum.com/location/images/ksmap.jpg
hunkahunka
11-03-2009, 05:45 AM
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Danvers State Hospital, Danvers/Salem, Massachusetts
Danvers was formerly known as Salem Village. Set apart on June 16, 1752, it was incorporated as a town in 1757. See Historical Sites of Danvers or Danvers History for more details.
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Local 'Rocky Horror' show brings a Danvers State feel
By Ethan Forman
Staff writer
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DANVERS — "The Rocky Horror Show" meets the former Danvers State Hospital this week in DYT Productions' adaptation of the sexually charged, cross-dressing musical smash from the 1970s.
The local production by Danvers Youth Theatre transforms the castle where young lovers Brad and Janet have run-ins with Dr. Frank-N-Furter ("the sweet transvestite from transsexual Transylvania") into Danvers State Hospital.
The hospital's signature Kirkbride building, with its gothic towers and turrets, has served as a backdrop in such films as the thriller "Session 9," said "Rocky Horror's" director Tim O'Donnell. It seemed fitting to turn Frank's castle into the former state mental hospital, he said.
To that end, one of the characters, Magenta, dresses up as a nurse instead of as a French maid. But the Danvers backdrop will not detract from the show many know line by line.
"It's still Rocky Horror at the end of the day," said O'Donnell, a 1999 graduate of Danvers High. The show blasts off tomorrow and runs through Saturday at 7:30 p.m., along with a midnight show Saturday night, at the Masonic Temple on High Street.
The original stage show was turned into the popular midnight movie, "The Rocky Horror Picture Show," during which members of the audience or actors re-enact the movie while the audience cracks jokes along the way.
When it rains, members of the audience spray squirt guns; When Brad and Janet use newspapers to cover their heads, the audience does so, too. When there's a marriage scene, the audience throws rice.
O'Donnell said the cast fully expects the audience to get into the swing of things. He even took some of the cast to a midnight showing of "Rocky Horror" in Harvard Square to get them used to the "shout back" lines.
"We are fully prepared for people shouting back," O'Donnell said. While audience shout-backs are encouraged, O'Donnell is asking fans to leave food, rice, hot dogs, open flames, lighters and squirt guns at home.
Confetti, newspapers, flashlights, rubber gloves, noisemakers, toilet paper and playing cards are acceptable, and the company will be selling audience participation kits with some of those items.
"This is the kind of show where people are going to do what they are going to do," O'Donnell said. When not on stage, cast members will sit in the audience and yell out the shout-back lines.
"Rocky Horror's" sexually charged appeal has crossed generations. While the show is risque, O'Donnell has toned it down. Still, it's not for kids.
"It's not as bad as it could be," O'Donnell said, "we are still sensitive to the fact we are in Danvers, Mass."
Chris Pitts, 22, of Wenham, plays the lead, Frank, in fishnet stockings and a corset. Its a role made famous by Tim Curry.
"I'm a big fan of the movie," Pitts said. "It's a role I wanted to play for eight years now." Pitts studies theater performance at Wagner College on Staten Island.
Michelle Drapek, 20, of Danvers, is a Boston University student studying international relations and a big fan of the movie, but she was unable to make the field trip to Cambridge.
However, her younger sister, Colleen Drapek, a recent Danvers High graduate who is also in the cast, did attend the midnight showing. Michelle said her sister's program came back full of rice.
"I've been preparing for some of the worst shout back lines," said Michelle Drapek, who will play both the usherette at the start of the musical and Magenta, one of Frank's servants.
"It's an interesting show to do," said Nick Ortolani, 20, of Danvers, who plays the straitlaced Brad. "It's challenging in many ways. It pushes you as an actor. It's good it's coming to Danvers," he said, because the show has appeal to young people on the North Shore.
This week, Danvers Youth Theatre will be performing The Rocky Horror Picture Show with a twist: the action takes place at Danvers State Hospital instead of Frankenfurter’s castle. You can read about it here: Local ‘Rocky Horror’ Show Brings a Danvers State Feel.
Aside from scenery backdrops and some costume modifications, it doesn’t sound like this production will deviate much from the original though. The change of setting is more a clever gimmick than a statement or exploration of the hospital’s weird mystique. Still, it’s kind of a fun and irreverent idea which is in good keeping with the story, if not particularly sensitive to DSH’s history. But I don’t think DYT needs to be criticized for that really.
Performances will take place at the Masonic Temple Danvers at on August 7th, 8th and 9th. Tickets are $10. Email danversyouththeatre@hotmail.com for tickets and other details.
hunkahunka
11-03-2009, 05:59 AM
this is the trailer the film 'Session 9' which was filmed at Danver State Mental Hospital in Salem, Massachusetts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsxkRNvEbhM
Danvers State Insane Asylum
An underground tunnel system was common when constructing institutions. Almost every building on the highlands portion of the property is connected via tunnel. They were used for the transfer of patients,storage,fallout shelters and maintenance having a better access to the sewer,heating and water lines in the winter months.
also some more footage of the hospital tunnels:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_piJQuK2WE&feature=related
Other names for this hospital:
* Danvers State Lunatic Asylum
* State Lunatic Hospital at Danvers
hunkahunka
11-03-2009, 06:41 AM
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Dr. Frank-N-Furter
this is a revealing photo of the main character from the Rocky Horror Picture Show. He is a doctor. He is a vampire, and see the triangle on his smock.
This film must have been the ultimate in-joke among the Kirkbride underground.
http://www.cosmosfactory.org/images/books/rhpostermag1.jpg
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the name and makeup are an obvious reference to electroshock
like Frankenstein
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http://lifeboat.com/images/frankenstein.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xos2MnVxe-c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etSv1WZn42c
hunkahunka do you have any details of the australian versions of these hostpitals? locations or anything? thanks.
soulja
11-03-2009, 12:52 PM
Fascinating and very interesting posts there hunka. This whole underground network connecting the important MK places is yet another piece of the puzzle.
Sure people have talked about this before but i can't remember reading anything close to your detailed research on the subject. it's cutting edge info.
hunkahunka
11-03-2009, 03:51 PM
Fascinating and very interesting posts there hunka. This whole underground network connecting the important MK places is yet another piece of the puzzle.
Sure people have talked about this before but i can't remember reading anything close to your detailed research on the subject. it's cutting edge info.
thank you, as I've said before, I really wish this stuff weren't true, but here it is .
It's here , there , and everywhere to be found once you have an idea of where to look:
Danvers State hospital in Salem , Massachusetts, was a Kirkbride project.
Oregon State Hospital in Salem, Oregon, was also a Kirkbride project.
(Oregon State Hospital is the same hospital where 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest', by Ken Kesey, was filmed. Salem borders Eugene, Oregon, aka 'Emerald City')
As a result of the site’s 15 minutes of fame a couple weeks ago, I got a few emails about Oregon State Hospital. Each made a case for including the Oregon State Hospital “J Building” in my list of Kirkbrides. They were pretty convincing I have to say. Apparently the building was originally designed according to Kirkbride’s specifications, but when it came time to add on additional wards, real estate issues prevented the wings from being extended in the normal fashion. Instead, they were extended back at a right angle to the original building’s main axis.
After hearing the evidence from multiple sources, I’ve decided to finally consider the building a Kirkbride. .
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Oregon State Hospital, Salem, Oregon (aka 'the Cuckoos Nest')
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http://blog.oregonlive.com/news_impact/2008/09/large_HOSP.JPG
Oregon State Hospital, late 1940's, ice bath therapy
this footage gives the viewer an idea of how huge these places were:
"Oregon State Hospital in Salem, Oregon USA is the primary state-run psychiatric hospital in the state of Oregon. The facility is perhaps best known as the filming location for the Academy Award-winning film based on Ken Keseys novel One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (where the story took place)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_S...
The facility is currently slated for demolition so I snuck onto the grounds and video recorded as much as I could before I was asked to stop. Here is the result.
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXt45--hWsY
hunkahunka
11-03-2009, 04:48 PM
hunkahunka do you have any details of the australian versions of these hostpitals? locations or anything? thanks.
one such project was Callan Park , near Sydney Australia
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3130/2811605835_dfdf226dbb.jpg
Canadian versions were located in Kingston and London, Ontario
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~asylums/kingston_on/kingstoneview1.jpg
Rockwood Hospital for the Insane, Kingston, Ontario, Canada
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~asylums/london_on/londonview1.jpg
Hospital for the Insane
London, Ontario, Canada
interesting article on Danvers State Hospital:
Converting Grim Asylums Into Grand Apartments
DANVERS, Mass. -- Perched on a hill and surrounded by forests and hay fields sits an imposing brick structure that one visitor called "the scariest building in North America." It's the former Danvers State Hospital, the setting of a 2001 horror movie and a painful reminder of the brutalities of institutionalized mental-health care.
Now, Danvers State is shedding its past. AvalonBay Communities Inc., a leading U.S. real-estate developer, plans to build 497 high-end apartments and condos on the 75-acre property, located just north of Boston. The company is building an additional 387 rental units and a nine-hole golf course at another former mental hospital in another Boston suburb.
Around the U.S. and in Canada, state hospitals that have sat largely empty since mental-health care was deinstitutionalized in the 1980s have become a developer's dream in a hot housing market: huge tracts of land located in or around large cities, such as New York, Vancouver and Columbia, S.C.
It's another example of surplus government property being converted to commercial use. But these projects are complicated because of what the state hospitals represent to the mental-health community and in popular culture.
Officials in South Carolina are planning the redevelopment of a 178-acre state-hospital campus in the heart of Columbia, the state capital. They want to save one brick building with the word "Asylum" chiseled in the facade. The building, according to some locals, was designed to block out moonlight, which was thought to exacerbate some mental conditions. "It's potentially the greatest development opportunity Columbia has ever seen," says Columbia's mayor, Bob Coble.
Outside Vancouver, British Columbia, 1,100 condos are being built on the site of another former asylum. In rural Dover, N.Y., a developer has bought the 850-acre Harlem Valley Psychiatric Center, a sprawling property located about 80 miles north of New York City. And in Detroit, the marketing firm Sperry Van Ness will auction 414 acres of a former psychiatric hospital campus on Aug. 30; the property sits directly across from a Home Depot, and near shopping centers and restaurants.
Early on, William McLaughlin, a senior vice president for development at AvalonBay, who grew up near Danvers, wondered whether the hospital's past would make potential renters and condo buyers wary.
"If you grew up in Danvers and you remember it as the spooky place on the hill, it might not be the right place to live," says Mr. McLaughlin. "But I think there is a mix of folks that are going to want to live in a very cool place."
AvalonBay is convinced Danvers State will become a "showcase" for attractive and respectful reuse. The company plans to convert about a fourth of the massive, Gothic hospital building into loft apartments with towering ceilings and exposed brick. New apartment buildings will surround the original hospital and condos will line the edge of the property. At the bottom of the hill, AvalonBay will likely build offices. All the other buildings will be razed.
There will be a pool, a fitness center and a field for pickup soccer and football games. Average rents for two-bedroom units will range from $1,750 to $2,000 a month. Condos will be marketed for $300,000 to $400,000.
It's a far cry from how the hospital appeared one morning last week: The windows and doors were boarded up, roofs sagged and the pathways were overgrown with weeds. It was deeply quiet save for the rustle of wild turkeys wandering the grounds.
Danvers was the setting for the horror movie "Session 9," about a worker who goes insane while removing asbestos from the hospital. "It's the scariest building in North America," actor David Caruso, who starred in the movie, told AboutFilm.com. "It was always scary, and you could really feel the pain of the people that were at Danvers." Mr. Caruso said.
A group of former patients and advocates for the mentally ill want AvalonBay to construct a museum on the site to chronicle the hospital's difficult history. "I want the public to know how cruel some of the treatment was," says Judith Robbins, who was first an employee and later a patient at Danvers.
Her father was also a patient at Danvers after World War II. She remembers that he twice broke his collar bone during his stay there. The hospital explained that he was hurt playing baseball. "I don't think so," Mrs. Robbins says.
Danvers State -- like many state hospitals -- was founded in the 19th century on the idea that the mentally ill could be helped by moving out of cities and into more bucolic settings of farm fields and Victorian gardens.
With its Gothic architecture and sweeping vistas, Danvers State was particularly grand. Over time, conditions deteriorated. Patients, often misdiagnosed and misunderstood, might be "people who were homeless or a little odd or children who were incorrigible," says Richard Trask, the town archivist.
In the 20th century, patients were being treated with lobotomies, electric shock and water immersion. By midcentury, patients were sleeping in corridors because of over-crowding.
Hundreds of patients were buried in two cemeteries on the hospital grounds in graves marked with stone cylinders and numbers. After the hospital closed in 1992, a group of former patients and advocates used medical records to identify the graves and put up headstones. But many records had disappeared.
"If we don't tell this story, we are going to repeat it," says Pat Deegan, who helped restore the cemeteries and wants a museum on the site.
AvalonBay says a museum is impractical. Instead, the company proposes building an outdoor memorial with a series of plaques explaining the history.
AvalonBay is buying the Danvers hospital from the state for about $20 million. Of that, $4.2 million is going to pay for housing for the mentally ill elsewhere in the state and $2 million to the town of Danvers for local schools, historic preservation projects and affordable housing around town.
Some units will be set aside as affordable housing, and 2% of the total development -- about 10 apartments -- will be reserved for people with mental illness. The company must also maintain access to the cemeteries.
Local preservationists wanted AvalonBay to save more of the hospital building, which opened in 1878 and is on the National Register of Historic Places. The company doesn't think there is enough demand to renovate all that space.
Town Manager Wayne Marquis praised the developer for saving the one main building while also maintaining open space. "It's striking a balance of all interests," he says.
Mrs. Robbins left Danvers State as a patient in the early 1990s. She would like to move back to the hill to live in the new development. She likes the idea of having a pool and the promise of a nice view. "It's going to be beautiful and new," Mrs. Robbins says.
hunkahunka
11-03-2009, 05:56 PM
http://cinemassacre.com/NEWS/images/dark-side-of-the-moon-pink-floyd-poster.jpg
the lunatic is on the grass.
I checked on the lyrics to the Pink Floyd song 'Brain Damage'
and here is my take on it. 'The lunatic is on the grass, got
to keep the looners on the path.' To me this means that virtually
anyone who leaves 'the path' , ie: completely controlled , can
be classed as insane. (ie: even something as innocent as walking on the grass is potentially a sign of 'illness'.) This line is about control by conformity,
directing people through the fear of being outcast.
'The paper holds their folded faces to the floor, and every day
the paper boy brings more': this line is in reference to how the
world is going insane, and the daily newspaper reports on it,
ie: the real lunatics are running the asylum
'And if the dam breaks open many years too soon, And if there is no room upon the hill And if your head explodes with dark forbodings too
Ill see you on the dark side of the moon':
This seems almost apocalyptic , the idea that eventually the world will go so crazy , with human life so degraded and devalued, that there will no way to hold back the flood of destroyed people, and no room to deal with them all, save to kill them all off. 'dark forbodings, dark side of the moon' , seems to reference death, and the stark reality that many people no longer believe in heaven or the afterlife. So instead of saying 'they are going to start killing people, killing us, so I'll see you in heaven', he says 'see you on the dark side of the moon'. The song is like a warning not to believe in this being 'god's will', 'rapture' etc .
'no room upon the hill' seems to reference eugenics, ie: a select few in high places will survive 'the flood'.
('the flood' could be a metaphorical/general reference to 'culling' , some future anarchic apocalypse , or literal, ie: deliberately constructed dams (children of the dammed?) with flood
zones created in lieu of alternative energy, in preparation for a planned extermination (flood) of the people in those areas.)
'And if the cloud bursts thunder in your ear, You shout and no one seems to hear'. 'cloud bursts' resonates the earlier line 'the dam breaks open', both references to the flood/apocalypse/culling.
'thunder in your ear, you shout but no one seems to hear': in other words the thunder drowns the people's shouts, In time of calamity your shouts are drowned in the cacophony of the shouts of others, ie: you are nothing special, just one among the doomed throngs .
' And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
Ill see you on the dark side of the moon'. This line means that even people who think they are 'insiders' or 'part of the in-crowd' , and think they will be saved by their support network , may be in for a surprise too.
ie: you start shouting for help, but if no one else in the band you're in (your network) is yelling along with you, in fact do not even hear you, because they are 'playing different tunes' (ie: as soon as you start yelling, they start 'marching to a different drummer'; in other words, they are safe, you aren't, and they don't seem to care) so you're in trouble, you're out on your own. You are soon to be on the 'dark of the moon', aka dead.
Pink Floyd's 'Brain Damage' lyrics
The lunatic is on the grass
The lunatic is on the grass
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs
Got to keep the looners on the path
The lunatic is in the hall
The lunatics are in my hall
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more
And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forbodings too
Ill see you on the dark side of the moon
The lunatic is in my head
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade,
you make the change (lobotomy?)
You re-arrange me till Im sane
You lock the door
And throw away the key
Theres someone in my head but its not me.
And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear
And if the band youre in starts playing different tunes
Ill see you on the dark side of the moon
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjK1TRbc7bw&feature=related
A way that this song could be used in programming trauma is the intrinsic
mood of doom and gloom , with its apocalyptic scenarios, with the 'dark side of the moon' substituting for 'over the rainbow'. as the escape route from the trauma.
'The dark side of the moon', as havens or promised lands go, doesn't sound very promising at all, so one would have to wonder what sort of 'dark side' programming, as opposed to 'rainbow' programming would be going on.
I mentioned earlier in this thread that Oz programming trauma could use the traumatizing specter of 'brainless' and 'heartless' companions to imply the
afterlife. ie: a child shown the bodies of murdered morgue specimens ('organ donors') sans brains and/or hearts knows that one cannot physically live without a brain or a heart: so Dorothy meets a friend with no brain, and then one with no heart, so is in effect in the land of the living dead, with mutilated zombies for companions (scarecrow and tinman) who wish to restore themselves to completeness (in other words, return to life: no longer be dead) Dorothy is in the land of the dead,
therefore Dorothy is dead.
This goes beyond 'near-death' trauma to 'after-death trauma' , when you think about it. The victim would be made
to feel that they have died and been sent to some traumatic place that they are forever trapped in. (Not even death offers an escape to the undead.) Therefore the only way out was to 'follow the yellow brick road', ie: follow the path, follow the orders, and follow the programming of 'the wizard', or male witch)
In Oz programming , the actual torture/trauma is also 'fictionalized' as 'only a dream' so that once the personality is split, the memory of the trauma inflicted is forgotten the way that an unpleasant nightmare is quickly forgotten. "whew, it was only a dream". Maybe showing Wizard of Oz , or a film like it, to very young children undergoing programming helped with the process of erasing traumatic memories.
I searched the video titled 'The Dark Side of the Rainbow' to find out which
part of the 'Wizard of Oz ' movie coincided with the song 'Brain Damage' in 'Dark Side of the Moon' and it turned out to be the scene where Dorothy first meets the Scarecrow and the Tin Man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT2SSsr-dT8&feature=related
interesting too that most of the Kirkbride era mental institutions had farms, large unmarked mass graves, and a great deal of evidence of human experimentation
with brains/autopsies/organs.
check out this interview of a former employee of Danver State Hospital:
John- What was the worst incident you witnessed involving a patient?
Preston- Back when they started dual diagnosis they transferred this 15 year old boy from Hogan to DSH. This boy had a habit of crawling into heat ducts. The heat ducts don't go anywhere at Hogan, it's a newer building and you can't get hurt. Anyway they sent him up and he was up there for about 3 weeks and he disappeared. We searched everywhere for him. We looked all over and we couldn't find him. The staff over at J ward started to notice a horrible smell getting worse and worse everyday. Anyway to make a long story short, he got inside the duct work in J Annex. The duct work in DSH goes right down to heating coils. He slid down , couldn't get up , got trapped and died. His feet landed right on the coils and literally burnt off up to his shins. I was there and had to go over there and help cut him out of the wall. There must of been 25 people in that room that day. The Medical Examiner, clinicians you name it. I cut the wall and Butch (The Tinsmith) was there to cut the tin duct work. When we cut through it all, and opened it up the kid was right there and looked almost frozen. The pathologist reached in to take him out and his hands sunk into his chest like jello.The smell was disgusting it was a nasty stench and we all got sick. His death brought on a major,major state investigation. His parents were mad as hell and rightfully so. We had big wigs from Boston and the State Police lab up there for weeks. It was just an horrible experience. I've seen a lot in my 24 years and that was by far the worst.
J-Do you ever recall hearing about a pathology lab and morgue in the Kirkbride prior to you working there?
P-No. The morgue was over in the Bonner on the first floor. That side loading dock on the right side was where the hearse would pull up. It was a large morgue. It had 8 freezer drawers and had an observation room for doctors and nurses who were in training. I got to see a couple autopsies myself. Dr. Towbin who did they autopsies back then let me even watch a couple. Dr. Foote ran the lab and that was located on the 6th floor (prior to the DYS using the 6th floor towards the later years) In the basement was where they kept body parts and brain tissue. They had a freezer there and it was filled with that sort of thing. Maintenance would have to go down there on occasion because there was heat pipes running through and we'd have to climb up and do our work and there'd be all these lab bottles filled with specimens and baby fetus's in bottles just like you'd see in a movie. That lab was constantly busy. They were always working up there. Always doing research on something.
J- When did the morgue close?
P-I'd say around the mid 1970's. They started shipping bodies off the property and they eventually closed everything. They renovated the morgue into the canteen area not long after it closed. They closed the original canteen that was located over by the maintenance shops, behind the Kirkbride and opened up a new one where the morgue used to be in the Medical Building.
J- Was the operating building off of A ward ever used while you were there?
P-No. That was the old surgical unit. Surgeries were done out of the Bonner when I was there.
J- Do you recall any family members attending patient funerals?
P-I've never seen a funeral up there personally because they stopped burying patients in the cemeteries the same year I started which was 68. I heard most families never showed up. The hospital would notify them and they wouldn't show.
J- Do you know who was in charge of buring the patients in the past?
P-Horace Clark and his crew was in charge of burying the deceased. I remember a couple months after I started they needed me to build a wooden box for a patients leg that was in the freezer over in the morgue. They operated on this man and he died. They had a funeral for him and he was buried but they kept his leg probably for further research. He was buried for about a month before they buried his leg next to him. I remember feeling weird about the whole thing, it was sort of bizarre because I just started the job. The old carpenter Eddie Osborne calmed me down and said "it's just a box, you're building a box that's all" and I built it , Horace's crew picked it up and placed the leg in it and they went and buried it. To the best of my knowledge that was the last patient buried there.
hunkahunka
11-03-2009, 06:02 PM
quote:
Dictionary: lu·na·tic (lū'nə-tĭk)
Linguistic roots
The word lunatic is borrowed from Latin "lunaticus", which gains its stem from "luna" for moon, which denotes the traditional link made in folklore between madness and the phases of the moon. This probably refers to the symptoms of cyclic mood disorders such as bipolar disorder or cyclothymia, the symptoms of which may also go through phases. As yet there no evidence whatsoever for any causal link between phases of the moon and the progression of mood disorder symptoms. Correlation has been observed in distant parts.
Mental institutions used to be called "lunatic asylums" or colloquially, "loony bins".
In Russian, Polish and Czech, a lunatic refers to a sleepwalker, literally "one who walks under the moon" or "moon walker".
In Romanian, a word with the meaning of "lunatic" is "zănatic", derived from Latin "dianaticus", from Diana, the Roman goddess of the Moon.[1]
Lunar hypothesis
In a 1999 Journal of Affective Disorders article, a hypothesis was suggested indicating that the phase of the moon may in the past have had an effect on bipolar patients by providing light during nights which would otherwise have been dark, and affecting susceptible patients through the well-known route of sleep deprivation. With the introduction of electric light, this effect would have gone away, as light would be available every night, explaining the negative results of modern studies. They suggest ways in which this hypothesis might be tested
hunkahunka
12-03-2009, 04:15 AM
For those who question the time frame of the Kirkbride project (1840's)
link to mk, and dismiss the premise on the basis of assumption that mk began in WWII, read this:
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Deeper Insights Into The Illuminati Formula by Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler (A)
Over the years, I have spent thousands of hours studying the Illuminati, the Intelligence agencies of the world, and the occult world in general. The centerpiece of these organizations is the trauma-based mind control that they carry out. Without the ability to carry out this sophisticated type of mind-control using MPD, drugs, hypnosis and electronics and other control methodologies, these organizations would fail to keep their dark evil deeds secret. When one of the mind-control programmers of the Church of Scientology, who has left Scientology, was asked about MPD, he said, "It’s the name of the game of mind control." Research into this subject will never be complete. This book has tried to give a comprehensive view of how the programming is done. The basic techniques were developed in German, Scottish, Italian, and English Illuminati families and have been done for centuries. Some report that some of the techniques go back to ancient Egypt and ancient Babylon to the ancient mystery religions. The Nazis are known to have studied ancient Egyptian texts in their mind control research. The records and secrets of the generational Illuminati bloodlines are very-well guarded secrets.
Even when I’ve learned about the location of secret depositories of some of the Illuminati’s secrets in Europe, America, and Asia, their records and secrets are too well-guarded to be examined. The intelligence agencies, such as MI-6 began investigating these mind-control techniques early this century, but their records have been routinely destroyed and tampered with. There are some survivors and professionals who know that the British used programmed trauma-based MPD (DID) agents in W.W. I. In Jan., 1987, Richard Kluft submitted an article to the American Journal of Clinical Hypnosis about 8 MPD patients who were between 60 and 72 years of age. Traugott Konstantin Oesterreich (1880-1949), who was professor of philosophy at Tubingen University, Germany studied MPD and demonic possession and wrote a classic study of it in 1921 entitled Possession Demonical & Other, which was translated into english in 1930. His classic work on this subject provides documented cases which reveal that the basic trauma-based mind-control was going on in Germany, France & Belgium long before the 20th century. Although he is unable to put together all the pieces and the clues for what they are, the reader of this book might enjoy reading the 1930 English translation of his classic work after they finish this book. Oesterreich’s research in early 1900s was the type of research that the Nazi mind-control programmers were very aware of. In 1921, the Germans such as Oesterreich would describe personality switches, by the term "somnambuliform [hypnotic states] possession" or "demonical somnambulism" or what might be called "Besessenheit von Hypnotismus und bösen Geistern."
The ability to study both the spiritual & psychological aspects of mind-control phenomena, is often lacking today. There are exceptions such as Dr. Loreda Fox’s book The Spiritual Dimensions of MPD. In the 1920s, the Germans also were aware that the human mind has a variety of ego-psycho-psysiological states rather than one unified mind, which they termed "Sub jecklose Psychologie" or the psychology of having correlated psychological states rather than the concept of a single ego. The Germans and Italians under the Nazi and Fascist governments began to do serious scientific research into trauma-based mind control. Under the auspices of the Kaiser Wilhelm Medical Institute in Berlin, Joseph Mengele conducted mind-control research on thousands of twins, and thousands of other hapless victims. Himmler supervised genetic research
If the Kirkbride project began mk programming so early, then what to make of the claim that the Nazis started it , and the Americans continued it afterward?
Maybe the German chapter is only part of the picture. Is it possible that Kirkbride was
part of the Illuminati's 'gearing up' for the planned conflicts of the coming century? The 20th century would see wars of monstrous scale and destruction. How big a role did 19th century mk play in those wars? How big a part did mk play in preparing and providing the Illuminati its legions of monsters and ghouls to unleash upon the 20th century?
Mary Shelly published 'Frankenstein' in 1818.
The purported reason for the Kirkbride plan , touted nationwide by Dorothy Dix,
was to provide idyllic, countryside living conditions for a sector of humanity considered so worthless that they were experimented on and buried in unmarked mass graves.
At a cost that would have been ENORMOUS at that time, these palatial estates were built on prime land . This in the era of child chimney sweeps, Dickensian sweat-shops, slavery, etc. etc., and they did all this out of the goodness of their hearts.
(at the time that these were built, the cities were still relatively small, and these farm complexes were originally MILES into the countryside outside the cities, reachable only by horse and buggy) [Today of course the cities have grown out into the countryside
and now these former acreages are residential subdivisions, with the originally isolated
complexes now surrounded by 'city'.]
So what was the real purpose for building dozens of these fortress-like castles, with bars on all the windows, all of them completely self-contained, in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by hundreds of acres of farmland, with the 'patients' transported via hidden tunnels?
Secrecy?
Or maybe just to add that extra bit of Frankenstinian pizazz to the whole experiment.
interesting that callan park was built on an aboriginal sacred site. my cousins live about 10 minutes away from there.
hunkahunka
12-03-2009, 12:55 PM
interesting that callan park was built on an aboriginal sacred site. my cousins live about 10 minutes away from there.
A lot of the American Kirkbrides were also built on former aboriginal/ Indian settlements and burial grounds and close to indian reservations.
hunkahunka
13-03-2009, 02:35 AM
http://www.infowars.com/german-shooter-avid-violent-video-game-player/
German Shooter Avid Violent Video Game Player
WAIBLINGEN, Germany — A portrait of a troubled, depressed teenager with easy access to an unsecured pistol began to emerge Thursday, a day after the youth went on a rampage, killing 15 people before taking his own life.
By Thursday, the police had established that the teenager, Tim Kretschmer, 17, last year broke off a round of psychological counseling for depression.
Searching his bedroom, the police found violent computer games — in which, experts say, players digitally clothe and arm themselves for combat — plus brutal videos and play weapons that fire small yellow pellets, said Siegfried Mahler of the Stuttgart prosecutors’ office. And they were trying to verify the authenticity of a reported posting to a chat room in which someone warned of an attack on a school in Winnenden. The killer graduated last year from the school where the attacks took place.
Rather than speak of a specific motive, investigators described Mr. Kretschmer as a classic case of a conflicted young man who wreaked havoc in real life after savoring imaginary violence in the digital world.
“If we had known this in advance, we would have called him a prototype of a rampager,” said Erwin Hetger, the chief of police in Baden-Württemberg, the southeastern German state where the crimes took place.
The brutality of the crimes was overwhelming.
Of the 12 people Mr. Kretschmer killed at the school, 8 were girls, 3 were female teachers and one was a male student. Several were killed with carefully placed shots to the head. After killing an employee of a clinic for the mentally ill, he sprayed at least 13 rounds to kill two people at a Volkswagen dealership before turning the gun on himself.
Prosecutors said they could file criminal charges against the shooter’s parents for failing to secure the pistol that he used, as required by German law. The gun was a 9-millimeter Beretta pistol that his father kept unsecured in a bedroom; other firearms owned by his father were under lock and key, the authorities said.
After a shooting seven years ago at a school in Erfurt in the east of the country, German teachers and police officers were trained to respond to violent episodes. That training was on display minutes after the shooting began Wednesday. And on Thursday, offers of help came in from people who had experienced the aftermath of the Erfurt shooting.
But a consensus was building that even the best plans could not prevent every emergency.
“We did a lot in Germany,” said Christine Alt, director of the school in Erfurt where the shooting took place. “But it seems we will never find a recipe that is 100 percent effective.”
The Internet posting that was being investigated was reported by the father of a youth identified only as Bernd, according to the police. Bernd’s information indicated that someone on the site had written: “I have weapons and will go to my old school and really burn them up. I might get out alive, but you will certainly hear about me tomorrow. Remember the name Winnenden.”
The police appeared confident of the posting’s authenticity early in the day. Later, after the Web site that they named denied that there had been such a posting, the police said they were investigating that new information.
Some German officials said that some people always slipped through the system undetected.
“We need to recognize that there is no such thing as absolute security; that we cannot simply prevent everything,” Volker Kauder, the leader of the conservative bloc in Parliament, told German public radio. Wolfgang Schäuble, the interior minister who is in a wheelchair after being partly paralyzed by a bullet to the spine in an October 1990 assassination attempt, played down the need to tighten already tough gun laws.
But with the computer having played such a role in the young man’s life, the Winnenden shootings seem likely to renew a debate in Germany over banning violent video games.
“These games basically program the minds of young men a thousand times over,” said Alina Wilms, a psychologist involved in treating people affected by the Erfurt shooting, who advocates a ban. “If ever it were going to be possible,” she said, “then now.”
Victor Homola contributed reporting from Berlin.
hunkahunka
13-03-2009, 12:13 PM
http://www.queensjournal.ca/media/stories/v134/i18/rockwood3.jpg
Rockwood Hospital for the Insane (where indigent women were frequently jailed for 'promiscuity' as a treatable condition) [note the large loading dock]
Rockwood Hospital for the Insane, the Kirkbride in Kingston , Ontario, is located right on the shores of the St. Lawrence Seaway, in the Thousand Islands
region, not far from Deer Island, owned by Yale's Skull and Bones organization.
http://www.stlawrencecruiselines.com/images/map_kar.jpg
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mstone/DeerIsland.jpg
Deer Island, Thousand Islands, N. Y.
http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/1_West_72nd_Street_(The_Dakota)_by_David_Shankbone .jpg/710px-1_West_72nd_Street_(The_Dakota)_by_David_Shankbone .jpg
The Dakota
-'The Dakota' was built for Edward Clark, co- founder of Singer Sewing Machine Company
-the president of Singer Sewing Machine Company, Frederick G. Bourne, kept an apartment in The Dakota.*
-Frederick G.Bourne acquired 'Dark Island' in the Thousand Islands and thereon built a gothic castle name 'Singer Castle'
http://de.fishki.net/picsw/092007/28/1000/1000_020.jpg
Singer Castle
the castle Frederick G. Bourne eventually built on Dark Island was modeled after the Woodstock castle that had been described in the historical fiction novel 'Woodstock', by Sir Walter Scott' . set during the reign of England's Charles I, complete with dungeons, turrets and secret passageways
Bourne, the fourth president of the Singer Sewing Machine Company, built Singer Castle in Chippewa Bay, which was completed in 1905. He was a sportsman, boxer, hunter and boater, and in fact, Singer Castle was built as a “hunting lodge.” With the development of motorboats following the turn of the century, Bourne became fascinated with high sped racing. He also owned several other boats and in 1905 was named the commodore of the New York Yacht Club, where he was a life member, and his leather-bound annual member books were found in the library of the castle. Other distinguished members in 1905 included Cornelius Vanderbilt, John Jacob Astor, J.P. Morgan, and Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Bourne had several other yachts, steamers, and power boats, including the Alberta , a 300' yacht manned by over 100 men, which was purchased in England and was the flagship of the yacht club during most of his term as commodore. Bourne was also a member of the Chippewa Yacht Club, and was president of the exclusive Jekyll Island Club in Georgia from 1914 to 1919, and docked his palatial yacht Marjorie there.
-Dark Island is roughly six miles from Deer Island, in the Thousand Islands, the island owned by the Skull and Bones society .
The Russells with the Tafts formed the Skull and Bones Society and the black flag with the white skull and cross bones was the corporate flag flown on all Russell Trust Company ships. It was also a flag flown on ships in the Knights Templar fleet. Another American connection to the opium trade was the Freemason, John Jacob Astor, the founder of the Astor dynasty who became a stockholder in the British East India Company.8
Philadelphia and Boston, the headquarters of the Northern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, were (and are) other centers for the drug trade. A descendant of Astor, Waldorf Astor of the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York, was a high degree Freemason who became chairman of the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London after the Second World War.9 The RIIA is extensively involved in coordinating the global drug trade (see the book, Dope Inc.)
http://www.photography-plus.com/images/BoldtCastle.jpg
Boldt Castle
also nearby (in the Thousand Islands) is the unfinished Boldt Castle, which was built by the founding proprietor of the Waldorf Astoria Hotel Georg Boldt.(George Boldt, William Waldorf Astor, and John Jacob Astor IV built the hotel together in a partnership, according to Boldt's specifications, with the Astors presumably financing most of the project)
*-Hollywood actress Judy Garland also lived at 'The Dakota' in 1961
hunkahunka
13-03-2009, 02:51 PM
http://www.linternaute.com/actualite/voyager/06/iles-privees-a-vendre/images/dark-island1.jpg
Dark Towers, Dark Island
quote
the castle Frederick G. Bourne eventually built on Dark Island was modeled after the one that had stood in Woodstock Park during the reign of England's Charles I, complete with dungeons, turrets and secret passageways. The Castle which, at that time, was called "The Towers" became the summer home and fall hunting lodge of the Bourne family. It was willed to the LaSalle Military Academy which could not find a suitable use for it and sold it to the Harold Martin Evangelistic Association in 1965.
It was the Singer Company President's summer home/hunting lodge.
- Has a 4 story tower with westminster chimes.
- comes completely decked out with suits of armor, weaponry and torture devices.
"The castle is complete with dungeons, turrets, towers, secret passageways and subterranean labyrinths. Set amid approximately 6 acres of gardens and terraces, the 28-room, 5-story granite castle features: 17 bedrooms which includes staff quarters, a great hall with massive arched stone pillars, spiral stone stairways, a chapel with gothic windows, library, drawing room, loggia, sun room, wine cellar, huge kitchen, upper and lower pantry with dumb waiter, 2 dining rooms and 10 magnificent fireplaces.
Additional amenities include a pergola, caretakers cottage, an indoor squash court, a 5-story tower with Westminister clock and 2 boathouses (110' and 70'). This island offers boating, fishing and hunting. Furnishings also included are antiques, weaponry, chandeliers and paintings, to name a few.
The property was once known as "Dark Towers" as the island is correctly known as "Dark Island". I have a large article on the property from a book known as "America's Castles" dating from the early 1960's. Among the details I recall the property once served as a summer camp for kids in the 1960's.
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Jordstat (Singer Castle) and the Thousand Islands are about the only exciting things there. Hammond is located on Route 37, 26 miles south of Ogdensburg
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I saw one of my favorite American castles in a movie today. It is newly out on video tape. The castle, of course, is "Jorstadt Castle", at least thats the name on your website. It is probably 2/3 of the way through the movie!!! The name of the movie is "The Skulls".
http://www.obscurehorror.com/skulls.jpg
Lately, the breath taking island was featured in the movie "The Skulls." The castle was the weekend getaway for the exclusive members of the Skull and Bones society. Local people and their antique boats are featured in the movie. When I saw the movie, I couldn't believe how close to home it hit me. My brother has actually worked on the reconstruction of the Island's wall.
Another interesting aspect of the island is that it is on the U.S./Canada border. You see the front of the Castle (in your picture) is the American side. The Canadian side is not quite as lovely or well kept. It houses a run-down boat house and unkept shrubbery. Still all in all the castle is truly a fairytale and it brings many happy memories to me everytime I see it.
Dubbed The Towers, the magnificent structure was designed by architect Ernest Flagg, who used Sir Walter Scotts' Woodstock Castle (1832) in Scotland for inspiration.
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Singer Castle sits on a seven-acre island and has a Great Hall, secret passageways, Italian and pink marble fireplaces, library panels that open to passages to the cellar and to third floor closets, carved stone arches,
Gothic windows, elk and moose heads on the wall, and a large iron chandelier.
The grounds have beautifully landscaped gardens and a pergola.
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Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby, discovering the secret passage through the closet (filmed in 'The Dakota')
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Children discover secret door to 'Narnia' in closet.
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In Return to Oz, Dorothy escapes on a 'gump', which is a moosehead attached to a couch
Upon his death, Bourne left the castle to family who later gave the castle to the LaSalle Military Academy, Long Island. The school having no use for the castle sold it to the Harold Martin Evangelistic Association
in 1965. Harold Martin's family name was Martin-Jorstadt, thus The Towers became Jorstadt Castle
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child sized skeleton (purportedly left over from a 'Halloween event' in the castle's turret dungeon), now resides in one of the Singer Castle's passages near the dungeon
Dark Island was owned by the tax exempt Harold Martin Evangelistic Association until 2001.. (no ticky, no laundry?)
Harold Martin was also director of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.
Fritz Springmeir has written a great deal about Billy Graham:
The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave
CHAPTER 5B: The Skill of Lying, The Art of Deceit (Billy Graham)
By Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula5Bchap.shtml
Billy Graham's Active Role in Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA)
Before we get into the details, we’ll take an overview. Satanists thrive on power. Satan loves to give his followers power. Satan took Christ to the mountaintop and told Christ that he’d have a "crusade" and bring every one to follow Christ, if Christ would just bow down and worship him. Christ refused. Billy Graham accepted it. We know a great deal how the Satanists took Billy Graham, the brush salesman and made him into the famous evangelist that he has become. Additionally, we also know from victims of Satanism, that have come out of it, that Billy Graham has been a Satanist himself. How can this be? And how can we know this?
One of the best witnesses is a Monarch program survivor, who has escaped from being a high-level Pentagon slave. This survivor witnessed Billy Graham working for the Illuminati. This survivor also carried messages for the Satanic hierarchy and personally knows that Billy Graham has been carrying messages from the top secret Illuminati to Presidents and heads of state. This person’s information has been backed up by independent witnesses.
A second ex-Satanist also remembers Billy Graham as a Satanist. Still another person, an ex-Illuminati person, who has MPD stood in front of Billy Graham and watched his eyes. This person said that it was very clear that Billy Graham has MPD and that he switches personalities. By happenchance or God’s will, Fritz received a report from one of the women who went to church with Billy Graham’s wife Ruth. The woman was told by Ruth in conversation that her husband Billy Graham is strange in that he always sleeps with his eyes open. It is characteristic of people who have MPD to sleep with their eyes open. People who have MPD may have a devout Christian personality and a devout Satanic personality all within a single body. This is not uncommon. In Billy Graham’s case, he is fully aware of what he is doing for the enemy in all his personalities, although his Christian personality may not be ecstatic about it all. Billy Graham’s Decision magazine has on its front page caption is "‘Changed From the Inside Out," and displays an infinity loop on the cover .
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Many Monarch slaves have had lots of programming around the infinity loop.
This [the infinity symbol] is an important trigger to remind them how they are captured by the unending repeating rebuilding programming. There are countless little things like this, which are evidence that Billy Graham is playing a role in the satanic mind-control of the Illuminati. Dr. Schefflin, a mind-control expert, told me that he saw internal documents from the 1950s teaching Billy Graham’s people on how to have a successful revival. These documents instructed crusade counselors on things which were elements of mind-control, such as delaying people from coming forward to confess Christ until the "right" time. If you’ve ever wondered how much Billy Graham knows--if the Illuminati haven’t told him, a concerned Christian named David Hill, who was an ex-Mafia/ex-New Ager/ex-Mason did. The concerned Christian was a friend of Franklin Graham (Billy’s son) and he had lived for two years at Billy Graham’s house. He didn’t realize that Graham had been sucked into the New World Order until he had confronted Billy Graham. David Hill, who was a ex-Mason turned Christian, who had worked with many of the world’s elite, spent 18 hours in a hotel room warning Billy Graham about the New World Order.
Billy Graham told David Hill at the end of their two days of talking in this eastern U.S. hotel room that he was "a captive of that [NWO] organization." In other words, after placing himself under the Illuminati’s sponsorship in the late ‘40s, Billy Graham has had the choice of continuing to do his job for them, or being destroyed. Since they created who he is, they can destroy him. And he knows it. David Hill went on to try to expose the New World Order and lost (was murdered) his life just as he finished a manuscript exposing it. Even a well-informed Christian like David Hill, who tried to warn Billy Graham about the NWO, was unaware of the extent of the deception of the Illuminati’s mind control. David didn’t know about programmed multiples. David Hill, who was a high ranking Scottish Rite Freemason and an important Mafia figure before he came to Christ, had even been the go between for Billy Graham and Joe Banana, a Mafia kingpin. It was David Hill, who innocently believing in Billy Graham, arranged the meeting for the two men.
David Hill knew that William Randolph Hearst was part of the Illuminati, He was part of the branch Illuminati -- at what could be termed the 6th degree. William Randolph Hearst was totally into paganism. That is very obvious by a tour of his mansion in California which has been turned into a museum. It was William Randolph Hearst who financed the first three years of Billy Graham’s Crusades. Stu PAK is associated with the Stewart Title Company. Stu Pak provides funds for Billy Graham and others. The head of Stu Pak is friends with Billy Graham and George Bush. The company has a lot of relatives running it. The Morris family is also tied to it. The people of Stewart Title Company are ruthless. The Van Duyn Illuminati family in California also helped Billy Graham’s ministry get started.
One of the ways the Illuminati funnelled money to Billy Graham was through a monthly check delivered to Jeanne Dixon’s office, which was picked up every month by Billy Graham’s staff. After Dixon’s secretary came to Christ she tried to expose Billy Graham’s connection to Jeanne Dixon. Jeanne Dixon sells crystal balls with snakes. She is part of the Illuminati. Billy Graham wrote her a letter calling her "a woman of God." Dixon’s secretary had a copy of this letter with Billy Graham’s signature on it, after she became a Christian. In 1952, in Paris, Billy Graham and another evangelist had dinner with two prostitutes and each one took one of them home. Billy Graham had a wife and children at home, so the whole affair was totally improper for an evangelist even if Billy Graham didn’t have sex with the woman. He told his friend only that the prostitute had taken off her clothes and he’d gotten scared and come back to their hotel room. See Frady, Marshall. Billy Graham, A Parable of American Righteousness. Boston: Little, Brown & Co., p.169-170. In 1954, the man who ran security for the Sacramento Crusade saw a high-priced hooker sneak into Billy Graham’s room prior to him going out for the Crusade. Billy Graham and this high priced hooker were alone together in the room.
It is this type of thing that has opened Billy Graham up to blackmail. Should Graham ever try to stray from the proper course set for him by the Illuminati, they have plenty of ammunition to blackmail him. (You may ask why would the Satanists from generational satanic families want to intimidate Billy Graham with fear? Why, isn’t he from a generational satanic family? The answer is that the whole Satanic system operates off of fear.
Intimidation & fear are standard everyday parts of their makeup and actions. Sort of the counterpart to the saying there is no honor among thieves. The Satanic hierarchy are in constant intimidation and power struggles.) When Billy Graham wanted to, he could call up Henry Kissinger and say, "Tell him to call me the minute he comes in." (Frady, p. 451) Henry Kissinger is right in the middle of what the Illuminati is doing. Another Illuminatus that Graham had a working relationship with is Henry Luce, friend of the Baruchs. Luce and Billy Graham spent several nights staying up talking late into the night. Knowing how the Illuminati work, it is very safe to assume that they have pushed Billy Graham into further degenerate acts. They have probably done everything they can to pervert Billy Graham, so there is no telling what sexual sins remain hidden. Kissinger is a member of P2 Freemasonry.
If we were to assume that Billy Graham were not involved (and that is a big IF since we know that he is), then if one studies P2 Masonic recruiting tactics given in the book In God’s Name, p. 116, then the reader will grasp that anyone of Billy Graham’s stature who associates so freely with P2 Freemasons will be targeted and blackmailed and forced to join. Once they join, new members are forced to compromise other possible targets. Billy Graham is part of the people who implement the Monarch program (which was a joint Illuminati/CIA total mind control program done to people). We know that he is serviced by Monarch sexual slaves (their kitten alters). It is very easy for the network to keep these poor victims (Monarch slaves) from talking, and so the full extent of much of what has gone on may not come out in our lifetimes. Another possible clue about Billy Graham’s hidden life comes from Billy Graham himself. Do the readers remember how Jimmy Swaggert would disguise himself with sun glasses, etc. and his staff helped him carry out what he in part confessed? In Hollywood, FL (yes, FL!) Billy Graham said that he "often attends love-ins and rock festivals incognito by putting on a false mustache and beard." He also said he found the experience in doing that kind of thing "refreshing." This story was in the Chicago Daily News, Dec. 29, 1969.
The article’s purpose appears to have been to make Billy Graham look hip to today’s rock and roll crowds of teenagers. Billy Graham described his friendship with Alan Dulles,
" I make every effort not to let it appear that I favor one party over another. I count Secretary Dulles a friend, but Senator Humphrey is also a good friend of mine, [who he met] ... when we were both swimming nude at the YMCA pool in Minneapolis where he was running for mayor."
A friendship with Alan Dulles? Alan Dulles, director of the CIA, was one of the biggest perpetrators of the trauma-based mind-control that this book is about. Humphrey also received orders from the Satanic hierarchy. And what is this swimming in nude? When Billy Graham had his 1954 Crusade, large sums of the money came directly from people in the Illuminati, the Whitneys, the Vanderbilts, the Rockefellers, and Chase Manhattan. Billy Graham has numerous times attended Hollywood cocktail parties. Just two examples of which are: one given by Debbie Reynolds, and another one which was a cocktail party for Hollywood stars put on by Nixon at his San Clemente, CA home on a Sunday evening. Billy Graham’s schedule is filled with activities such as playing golf with people who are in the Illuminati, or are Hollywood types.
The full impact of this constant fellowshipping with darkness is hard for people to grasp, because they picture that Graham is an evangelist and so therefore he must go where the sinners are. There is an expression, show me a man’ s friends and I’ll tell you about him. It’s one thing to spend time with evil to give it a chance to repent and come to the light, It is another to fellowship with evil and allow it to remain in darkness. Let us quote from a neutral source, a group who had been investigating the role of church and state. They were trying to determine for their study whether Billy Graham has had an impact on all the Presidents from Eisenhower to Clinton, This study was not pro or anti Graham, It was simply trying to determine what impact this religious leader is having on political leaders. Billy Graham has spent a lot of time with all the Presidents, so their question was "has Billy Graham had some type of impact?" Their conclusion printed in the Journal of Church and State concludes, .. . .could Graham speak the word of truth - especially when that word may be critical or slashing -to the man in the White House when he is on such friendly terms with him? On the basis of the evidence now available, the answer must be no." What a person does on his free time is said to be revealing.
Christ did spend his time with sinners, but he called them to repentance. In all my study of Billy Graham, I haven’t seen any of the Hollywood movie stars or politicians change their lifestyles by their association with Billy Graham. A number of "conversions" have been artificially created, and given widespread publicity by the press. Pat Boone is the type of close friend of Billy Graham that perhaps typifies Billy Graham. He is someone well-received by the public. Billy Graham has enjoyed using him in Crusades. Pat Boone continued playing in Playboy type night clubs while he was singing at Billy Graham Crusades. Pat Boone who is pro-jewish, may be jewish, because the State of Israel has given him some special positions. There is nothing wrong with having "jewish blood", it just explains some of his connections. The Nugen Hand Bank was a CIA operation that laundered money, and did many illegal activities.
Pat Boone was part of the Nugen Hand Bank scandal. Exactly how deep he was involved with the CIA’s dirty dealing is unclear. Pat Boone’s daughter Debbie Boone made a hit out of the song "You Light Up My Life", the words of the song were written by a woman who worshipped Lucifer and wrote the song to Lucifer. Billy Graham has placed the emphasis in his Crusades on putting liberals, even Catholic priests, up on the platform with himself. When does Billy Graham ever spend time with solid devout Christians? Every time Billy Graham went to Moscow he tried to avoid the devout Christians of the unregistered churches who unwittingly tried unsuccessfully to meet with Graham. Instead, he would meet with the heads of the Orthodox Church, which, since all the changes in Russia, are now proven to have been KGB agents--although most of us had suspected that all along from the type of things they said and did. How naive can Christians get? Do they really think that the Illuminati is going to let a legitimately powerful anointed Christian evangelist have regular access to their people? Don’t Christians realize that if he was a real threat--someone who might really bring one of the top elite to Christ that they would be assassinating him, not wining and dining him.
--"BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS, WHICH COME TO YOU IN SHEEP CLOThING, BUT INWARDLY THEY ARE RAVENING WOLVES." Mt. 7:15 --"BEHOLD, I AM SENDING YOU FORTH AS LAMBS AMONG WOLVES." Lk. 10:3
The Apostle Paul warned Christian leaders, "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Spirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock." Acts 20:28-29 Bill Clinton, some senators, and Billy Graham’s son, Ned E. Graham, invited the leaders of the Chinese house churches to a prayer breakfast in Washington D.C. Three delegates from the Three Self Patriotic Movement (TSPM) and 3 others from house churches were invited, Lin Xian-Gao, Li Tian-En, and Yuan Xiang-Chen. Rev. Ned Graham visited these Chinese in person to extend the U.S. government’s invitation.
Graham told the chinese Christians that the government would pick up the entire tab for the breakfast. In return the U.S. government wanted the Christians to promise not to speak to the American press or to any Americans comments that might hurt the image of the Red Chinese government. The Chinese government had promised the American government that they would guarantee safe entry and departure for these house church Christian leaders. Then after the meeting, they were invited to Billy Graham’s house. The Chinese Christians declined the invitation by Graham. Chinese pastor Lin said,
"If I went to the United States, I would tell the truth, not lies. To tell the truth would definitely be considered an act of damaging the image of the Chinese government which would create a pretext for the government to refuse my re-entry into China. But my commission from God is to serve Him faithfully in China only. Therefore, I choose to remain in China rather than to go abroad."
Ned Graham (Billy’s son) tried to talk the Chinese into coming, I know that you surely do love your enemies, why then can you not compromise..." The pastor answered, "Yes, we can forgive our enemies for persecuting or opposing us in their ignorance, but we can never love the false prophets or their heresy."’ Ned also said, "It is a glorious and dignified thing to be invited by President Clinton. Many people seek it, but cannot obtain it. Fortunately, the chinese did not buy it. (This info and quote comes from China The Untold Story by The Voice of the Martyrs, Inc., 1995. pp. 25-31)
BUILDING AN IMAGE
There is another area of Billy Graham that we will only touch on. In one of Fritz’s ‘92 newsletter, Billy Graham is quoted stating that he thought UFOs were angels of God. On either Jan. 28 or 29th (See Smyma, Feb. ‘93, p.3), Billy Graham was interviewed on television by David Frost. Billy Graham said he believed people in heaven are sent by God to other worlds to help them in redemption of life, This is edging somewhat close to what the Mormons believe, that "Christians" (that is Mormons) will each receive their own planet to be god of. In another show, Graham said he wanted to evangelize other planets. Fritz has repeatedly tried to warn Christians of the many demonic dangers associated with the entire UFO phenomena, and the Satanic Hierarchy’s connection to UFOs. Billy Graham’s idea that UFOs are good angels is a dangerous idea. Billy Graham was given the contrived artificial image of being a great anti-Satanist.
At the Chicago Crusade, 200 Satanists stood up in the crowds. Mayor Daily of Chicago then said from the stand, Billy we have 200 Satanists that want to disrupt your meeting shall I arrest them? What shall I do? And Billy said, "No let’s sing a song". The crowd sang a song and the Satanists left the stadium on their own. The whole affair was clearly staged and hokey, but Christians are very naive about Satanism and Billy Graham. This further confirmed to them that Billy Graham was a great anointed man of God.
First, hard core Satanists don’t show their faces in public. Second, the Mayor of Chicago is not against the Satanists, he works with them, and there are reasons to suspect he is one. Third, Satanists, who do show themselves in public like Anton LaVey, want good publicity and would not carry out something like pretending to want to disrupt a Billy Graham crusade. Fourth, if a real threat had existed, Mayor Daily and the police wouldn’t be asking Billy Graham what to do, they would be taking care of the problem. The police don’t need to ask for permission to take care of troublemakers at the Crusade. Christians accepted this episode at its face value. Those who did clearly show the common church goer’s poor understanding of those who seek to control and destroy the church.
How Billy Graham plays a key role in reprogramming Monarch slaves
Two different talkative Satanists told sources of mine about 2 different coven meetings here in Portland in the Summer of 1993 where the covens discussed the benefits that the satanists were going to get from the Billy Graham Crusade. I know one of the benefits for the satanists was that Monarch programees who had become Christians and had deactivated the effect of their mind-control programming were to be reprogrammed with Billy Graham’ s help. When Billy Graham arrived in town, someone on his Crusade staff had managed to find and send out invitations to many of the survivors of Satanic ritual abuse (SRA) in Portland to come to a special meeting to personally meet with Billy Graham. At this special meeting with SRA victims, Billy Graham personally began saying the buzz words to reactivate these people’s programming, especially the Monarch survivors. (This comes from several witnesses.) For a number of years now, the Billy Graham Crusade has been putting messages across the bottom of television screens that has activation codes for Monarch survivors.
Those Monarch survivors who have become devote Christians to escape the nightmare of the Monarch mind-control are often not aware of the danger of watching the Billy Graham Crusade on television. When people are activated, special people are in the area and they take the Monarch survivors to what are called Near Death Trauma Centers. These centers are used then to reprogram these poor people. There were five in this area, of which we located 2 and forced them to move their sites. Religious fronts (denominations, individual churches and certain ministers) are used to hide criminal activity. Billy Graham, who is a programmed multiple himself, is exceptionally adept at managing his Monarch kittens. The drug money laundered through his crusades is carefully handled by many Monarch slaves working in shifts and teams, so that the whole scheme can not be uncovered by catching one person.
Billy Graham runs big operations all over the world under the disguise of evangelism. Another of the countless religious covers, that works with the Network’s/Illuminati’s drug activities involves the Mormon Bishop warehouses, which are used to store cocaine. Monarch slaves are involved with this. Different religious labels hide the same criminal Network. By the way, when giving the Patriarchal Blessing, the Mormon Patriarch if he has a Monarch slave will use hypnosis and triggers to convince the person what their future will be like. One can’t say this is happening in every case, but it is very widespread for the Patriarch who give these blessings to be part of the Trauma-based mind-control operations. Billy Graham also personally delivers messages to the Presidents for the Illuminati, such as when he arrived just prior to Bush’s decision to launch Desert Storm. Sometimes the papers even spell out that Billy Graham serves as a message boy, for instance, when he delivered a message in April, 92 from the Pope to North Korea’s dictator Kim.
REFERENCES
The following three books were very helpful to me in terms of documenting Billy Graham’s activities, All three authors were interested in documenting what Billy Graham is really all about. It may sound strange that I say that, but sadly most of the books that touch on Billy Graham like America’s Hour of Decision Including a Life Story of Billy Graham are simply part of the deception process of the enemy. However, if anyone wants to know more about Billy Graham the following three books were very helpful for me to document Billy Graham’s activities.
Billy Graham, A Parable of American Righteousness by Marshall Frady.
Marshall Frady was a writer for Life and Newsweek. He has done an incredible amount of research into Billy Graham’s life. He doesn’t touch on the sinister side of Billy Graham, but by giving an honest report about Billy Graham he tears off the "Hollywood-type mask" so to speak that everyone has seen and believed. Marshall Frady simply wanted to tell the whole story of Billy Graham, good, bad or otherwise. He spent many hours interviewing Billy Graham and many other people involved in Billy Graham’s life. When this book was read by a devout Christian, it totally devastated this person’s media-built image of Billy Graham-- for instance, items like Billy Graham going to dinner with a prostitute and taking her home, Billy Graham walking past his wife and not recognizing her, & Billy Graham’s New York Crusade refusing to allow street people into the crusade because they were dirty. However, another Christian borrowed my copy of it, and said after looking at the book he didn’t see anything wrong with Billy Graham in the book. But then he just read portions of the book. Still, unless one has spiritual discernment the book is probably not going to "blast a person out of the water," because it is a biography not an exposé.
Until recently, this was the only really good biography that was available for Christians. Many months before the Billy Graham 1993 Portland Crusade, the advertisements for the crusade and the crusade activity here in Portland began. Pilgrim Discount, which is one of the best Christian bookstores in the Portland area sells both used and new Christian books. They had a used copy of Billy Graham a Parable of American Righteousness. I watched for months to see if any Christians would buy the book. Tens of thousands of Christians got involved in the Billy Graham Crusade in the Portland area, but none had the interest to read the only biography of Billy Graham available. Finally, just shortly before the Crusade, a teenage Christian from Washington who had been warned about Billy Graham and who was trying to keep from being forced to attend, bought the book on a trip from Washington. This incident shows what Americans know--and what they want to know about Billy Graham is shallow media-hype. A Christian radio show here had the author of Billy Graham A Prophet with Honor on to promote his book, which was done just when the Crusade was days away.
A Startling Exposure- Billy Graham and the Church of Rome by Ian R. K. Paisley.
This is perhaps the best book as far as actual documentation. The book is probably rare, and not available. Ian R.K. Paisley has made it one of his projects of his life to expose Catholicism. Because Billy Graham works more with Catholics than Protestants Paisley as a concerned Christian obviously found himself learning about Billy Graham. Ian R.K. Paisley knows first hand how powerful Billy Graham and his establishment backers are. They have a colossal publication strength to discredit any critic of Billy Graham in whatever manner it takes -- even if it means outright lies and slander.
Billy Graham Reformer? Politician? Preacher? Prophet? A Chronological Record Compiled from Public Sources By the Church League of America 1951-1982
This book is from Edgar Bundy Ministries, It is a collection of articles that have appeared in the public media on Billy Graham over a period of 31 years. Billy Graham is condemned by his own words and his own actions. If people only took a look at what Billy Graham is on public record saying it would startle them. Who is Billy Graham working for? Is he trying to build the Christian churches up, or is he trying to lay the foundation for a one-world religion? While some people may on first thought think that it is a great idea to have every one belong to the same religious structure, they need to reflect on the dangers inherent in one single religious body with all-encompassing power. The groundwork for such a dictatorial global religious body is already partially constructed, and is revealed in other writings of Fritz Springmeier. How many people know that in 1955 and 1956 Billy Graham announced that he had a policy of sending people who come forward at his crusades to the church of their choice whether that church or synagogue is Catholic, Protestant or Jewish.
For instance, the Protestant Church Life quotes Billy Graham in its 29 Sept 1956 issue, "Referring to the Billy Graham New York Crusade scheduled for May, 1957, Dr. Graham said: ‘We’re coming to New York not to clean it up, but to get people to dedicate themselves to God and to send them on to their own churches--Catholic, Protestant or Jewish." There is one other book worth pointing out at this point, It was not a source book for my investigation, but I know the author, and the book came out recently, so it is likely still available. The book is The Assimilation of Evangelist Billy Graham into the Roman Catholic Church by Erwin Wilson. The address is Quebec Baptist Missions, Box 113, Compton, Quebec, Canada, JOB iLO.
It’s s nice that men like Erwin Wilson are noticing Billy Graham’s love affair with the Catholic Church. He picked up on Billy Graham’s statement about the Pope, "Pope John Paul II has emerged as the greatest religious leader of the modern world and one of the greatest moral...leaders of this century." (The Saturday Evening Post, Feb, 1980.) However, several of these anti-Catholic ministries are rejecting the bigger picture. They have strongly resisted learning about mind-control and the exposure of the conspiracy in Be Wise As Serpents by Fritz Springmeier. Because of this, several of these Christian ministries to Catholics have lots of information about Billy Graham and his close workings with the Catholic Church, but little comprehension of how the Catholic Church fits into the bigger picture, and how the New World Order is actually coming about.
There has been widespread concern about Billy Graham among Christians. Because the controlled media don’t report these concerns, people are not realizing the extent of the concerns which have been voiced. Even before the co-authors got involved in exposing the Illuminati and their control over religion and their plans for a New World Order, there has been a long history of concern by devout Christians over Billy Graham. There has been a growing dissatisfaction among conservative Christians towards Billy Graham. The introduction to Erwin Wilson’s book which is written by Dr. Bob Jones (Chancellor of Bob Jones University) provides an introduction to the concerns Christians have about the man who has been set up by the media and the money elite to be their greatest leader. We quote only a paragraph of what Dr. Bob Jones said, "Some of us who grieved over Graham’s first downward steps toward compromise with apostasy and biblical unbelief knew that he was pursuing a direction from which there would be no turning back. While we grieved over him and prayed for him, we had to warn men against his ministry as we had warned Billy against his direction."
The first area is doctrinal concerns by devout Christians, who have been deceived that Billy Graham thinks as they do. Christians usually take for granted that Billy Graham is sound doctrinally. The following paragraph of beliefs of Billy Graham were documented in 1993 by Fritz Springmeier in his June ‘1993 newsletter, with its large document packet. Main line Christians would be shocked to find out what Billy Graham really believes and is on public record as supporting. This will help show non-Christians, who read this, that Billy Graham is not really the Christian he pretends to be. This is not to preach at non-Christian readers, for some of the non-Christian readers will agree with Billy Graham’s stands. These views are written to show how a major Christian leader can have a false public image that has survived mainly because the full public record of Billy Graham’s stands are keep low key.
If we are big enough to look at the deceptions of our politicians and statemen, we must be big enough to face the deceptions of our ministers. Some of the areas that Billy Graham deviates from Scripture are as follows. He is on public record supporting homosexuality, abortion, his disbelief in a literal hell, his support and practice of infant baptism to save children, his support for the Catholic church’s worship of Mary (yet he calls himself a Protestant). He has repeatedly praised infidels and apostates as great Christians. He actively supported the American government policy to fight the Vietnam War. He would not challenge the idea that the Bible is mythology, when directly questioned. The deception doesn’t stop with the Protestants, Catholic supporters have been kept in the dark about his abortion views. The deception goes way beyond Protestant, Catholic beliefs. As a programmed multiple who participates in Satanic Ritual, Billy Graham has deceived everyone. The second area is concerns about his support for a One-World Church and a One-World-Government. This stems from:
1. Billy Graham ’s public endorsements of the World Council of Churches and the National Council of Churches.
2. Billy Graham’s consistent attendance at the World Council of Churches’ meetings.
3. Billy Graham has done more than anyone in the world to bring about the One-World-Harlot church, and he has done more than anyone to unite all the Christian groups into one organization.
4. Billy Graham’s support of the Pope and the Catholic church which is the largest Christian religion and one of the pillars of the New Age One-World religious body being set up.
5. The support that the NCC and WCC gives him.
6. The support that the internationalists and globalists give Billy Graham. Billy Graham was first asked to do his Portland Crusade in 1993 by the WCC/NCC representative in this area who is a homosexual, a new ager, and leader of the ecumenical movement.
A third area is concern over the lack of depth that conversions at Billy Graham’s crusades have, Some of the details on this are:
l. Only 2% of the people coming forward at a Crusade have never been Christians and are actually giving their life to Christ for the first time, and of these 80% fall away.
2. A great majority of people that come forward are sent to Catholic and extremely liberal Churches, extremely few are sent to solid Bible believing churches., In the Catholic Standard and Times, Thursday, July 16, 1992, p. 10, this Catholic paper reported that 1,900 Catholics responded to Billy Graham’s call to make decisions for Christ in the Philadelphia Crusade and were referred to about 250 parishes.
3. People that come forward are sent even to Jewish synagogues and New Age churches.
4. Converts are given the impression that Christ wants decisions for him, rather than that Christ wants disciples.
5. The people attending the crusades are almost all Christians, due to the high numbers of Christian counselors and the high number of church people which are always intentionally bussed in, (Frady exposes this, and in 1992 a writer of the Williamette Week did a major story for the magazine detailing how she had searched the entire week at the Billy Graham Crusade for an unsaved person and failed to find a single non-Christian. There were a few, but so few she didn’t find any. William ette Week, Oct. 1,1992).
6. Most decisions at the crusades are for trivial things such as to stop smoking.
Interestingly, Christians with discernment spoke about how hurting the churches were after the Billy Graham Crusade here in Portland. They had been made wild promises of success, they were fleeced of their money, and then given a lukewarm spiritual boost. Their comments reminded me of this warning to Billy Graham clear back in the 1950s as to how he was ruining the harvest field. Part of Satan’s Planetary control is through religious leaders. Christians have been conditioned to believe that Billy Graham is a great prophet of God by the establishment media, who have told us for years that Billy Graham was the most respected man in America, The percentages that the controlled Media have reported for Billy Graham’s popularity may have been inflated. There are several studies that show how the establishment uses polls dishonestly to manipulate thinking.
The establishment media is able to create ideas so firmly within the mind of the public that it becomes almost impossible to deprogram people. What people see on T.V. becomes what you believe, The T.V. image becomes real. What actually happens at a crusade is far different from the media image. In Scotland for instance, a poll was taken of church membership one month before the Billy Graham Scotland Crusade, and two months after the Crusade. Church membership had actually declined substantially. So after spending millions of the Christians’ dollars, Billy Graham had not even helped the church attendance of the Scottish churches. When Billy Graham holds his crusades, the churches in the area sponsor the crusade. In Poland, in a nation 95% catholic, the churches that sponsored his crusade in Warsaw were Catholic churches and when people went forward they were sent to Catholic churches. Yet, when the mass media report on Crusades, it is made to sound like thousands of people became new Christians.
Many of the devout Christians that have supported Billy Graham haven’t thought through what is really going on at the crusades. They have been so caught up with the media image that they are not able to critically comprehend that the crusades are really major spiritual disasters. The book for counselors at the Billy Graham Crusade here in Portland specifically stated that only Billy Graham was allowed to proselytize, that the crusade counselors were forbidden to proselytize anyone at any time during the crusade, or else they would lose their Crusade badge as a counselor. (See these instructions in The Billy Graham Christian Life & Witness Course, Minneapolis, MN: Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, p. 47, Instructions A.6.) But thousands of the Christians in Portland who became counselors for the ‘92 Crusade never gave it a second thought that only Billy Graham was allowed to proselytize, because they trusted Billy Graham.
Money that could have gone to helping victims of mind-control went toward superficial decisions for Christ. Money that could have gone to doing some serious damage to the evil, has gone for Madison avenue hype and for big shows, On top of this, the large sums that are spent on the Billy Graham Crusades serve as a cover for the Networks money laundering that they do through Graham’s Crusade using a series of Monarch slaves in a complex series of money drop offs. A fourth area is concern over his methodology. A body language expert says that Billy Graham’s talks are simply canned. They are simply well-rehearsed canned-body movements and not coming from the heart. His crusade uses Madison-Avenue sales techniques instead of traditional scriptural methods to get converts. Billy Graham crusades always spend great sums of money for bill boards promoting Billy Graham and bumper stickers promoting Billy Graham, the end result is that Billy Graham’s name is usually promoted millions of times more often than Jesus Christ.
Christianity is consistently watered down and identified with the world and its ways. And a great deal of boasting is done about numbers of decisions instead of real meaningful discipleship. A fifth area is concern over Billy Graham acceptance of Communism. Although many people feel communism is dead, this area is still relevant. If you think communism is dead go live in North Korea, where Billy Graham went in 1992 full of praise for North Korea. See Christianity Today, May 18, 1992, p.55. (By the way, Billy Graham & family have sat on the board of Christianity Today, and still control it, so it wouldn’t misquote him.) l. Billy Graham has repeatedly over international mass media claimed that there was no religious persecution under the communists, 2. Billy Graham has praised Mao-Tse-Tung’s principles, 3. Graham has praised communist leaders on numerous occasions, 4. Dyed-in-the-wool communists who have been the ones giving orders to torture
Christians for some reason feel comfortable spending time talking to Billy Graham. The actual heritage and name of Billy Graham There is a connection between Marxism and a group of Satanists called Frankists. One of the strongest satanic cults to take control over the Jewish population was called Sabbatianism. Jakob Frank assumed the role of leader of this group, and afterward this brand of satanism was called Frankism. (Freud’s sexually-obsessed theories came from Frankism.) Frank taught his followers to convert to another religion and hide behind that religion to practice their satanism. (One of several book on the subject of Frankism is The Contemporary Faces of Satan by Ratibor-Ray M. Jurjevich.) Billy Graham’s family when they originally came over to this nation were of the Frank family which is related to Jakob Frank. After coming over to this nation, they changed their name to Graham which is a Scottish name.
Two groups of people who are over represented in the power structure over the last 200 years are Scots and cabalistic satanic "jews." Obviously, not all Scotsmen nor jews are involved in the NWO. Several other researchers independently discovered that Billy Graham’s heritage was the jewish Frank family. However, Fritz was beginning to suspect that there must be some kind of jewish blood in Billy Graham’s heritage, because of the all the things he would stumble upon. For instance, the intimate connections Graham had with Jewish leaders and Jewish Christian ministries. And his assurances to them that they are God’s chosen people, a special group. Graham privately told them, that because they are a special chosen group they don’t need to come to Christ. (Fritz discovered all this by accident reading Jewish literature.) Further, the paper called "The C-9 Report For internal use only" states on page 11 that Billy Graham’s daughters have lived in Israel, and that Billy Graham’s son fought with the Israeli army in the Six-Day War.
In the Be Wise As Serpents book, chapter 2.1, "The Jewish author Gerald S. Strober in his book American Jews Community in Crisis, p. 110 states that after a resolution in Feb. 1973 at Pittsburgh by the NCC failed to declare the NCC against converting the Jews, that Billy Graham announced the following day a statement that God had a special place for the Jews and rejected ,,coercive evangelistic efforts." Privately, Graham has assured Jewish leaders he is against converting the Jews to Christianity. Strober also informs his readers (p. 111) that many Christian organizations that are "Jewish Missions" take their marching orders from Billy Graham, This confirms numerous reports..." So Strober in effect is saying don’t worry Graham is with us, and he controls most of the Christian organizations that are supposedly missions to evangelize us. Messianic Jewish groups are strongly pro-Billy Graham, Some of these groups have gained in size and then strangely gone back into Judaism.
That kind of thing has been happening here in Portland, not to mention other localities. Now it is clearer why Jews coming forward at Crusades have often been and are being referred by the Crusade people to Reformed Jewish synagogues. How Billy Graham is a 33° Mason. This is an important issue, however, even if Billy Graham were not a 33° Mason, there are many things that he is doing that should warn Christians not to support him. There have been a number of people in casual conversation who have mentioned Billy Graham being a 33° Mason, for instance a CIA leader, a NSA person who is against the NWO, and various Masons. These accidental revelations are what can be considered casual evidence, in that it is accidently heard. Some of the people who have read Fritz’s Be Wise As Serpents book have been experiencing validation of what was written on Billy Graham by their own casual contacts with people. These types of encounters are very meaningful to the people who experience them, but their significance is hard to communicate to others.
Hopefully, readers of this, who are truth seekers, will have their own casual-evidence-validation experience. One piece of casual evidence came from a Shriner Clown. It turns out the only clowns who were chosen to perform for the Billy Graham 1993 Portland Crusade were Shriner Clowns. There were non-masonic clowns available, even some Christian clowns, but the masons were the only ones Graham allowed to perform for him. Various people, who have worked in the system for the Illuminati, such as an ex-witch who is now a Christian, an ex-33° Mason now a Christian, and a CFR’s person also now a Christian, all testify that Billy Graham is a 33* Freemason. A woman and a man who are ex-satanists and now Christians also have mentioned about Billy Graham’s masonic membership. (One has to understand that there is a close working relationship between the Lodge and the Illuminati.) To progress up the ranks in Satanism, they will require you to go through Freemasonry. Freemasonry then teaches people about the symbology of the mystery religions. The lodges bring in female Monarch slaves for some of their Egyptian sexual-magic rituals.
If the reader were to get up in the morning and your mother, sister, and brother were in the kitchen and said that your mother had just drank a cup of coffee, you would be able to tell from their faces if they were telling the truth, and you would know that your mother had drank a cup of coffee. This is the way it is for us. We know these witnesses know the truth, and we know they are not making it up. But if people don’t believe that, then they need to go scrounge up their own witnesses, and risk their own hide in doing the contacting. The material we presented here is not frivolous work. As pearls of value, we hope that this research is not taken and allowed to become pearls given to swine. Because Billy Graham is such a key person for the Illuminati and the Satanic plan to bring in the Anti-Christ and the One-World-Religion, key parts of Graham’s life have been intentionally shrouded,
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When he joined the masonic lodge c. 1948, they intentionally kept his membership more secret than others. Why? They are secret about their membership in general, but even more so if the person is a key Illuminatus and a big key to their religious control, This is why they have kept the membership of Charles T. Russell, founder of the Watchtower Society quiet. This is why they keep the memberships of the Mormon prophets secret, It has been a consistent pattern by the Masonic Lodge to keep these key people’s membership very quiet. It would be much easier if we had a membership certificate, but for people who don’t want to believe no amount of evidence would suffice. In terms of a paper trail we have the following:
· Billy Graham’s books consistently refer to basically only Masons.
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· Billy Graham endorsed the Masonic DeMolay program for youth as God’s work. This endorsement by Billy Graham is in a Masonic book that is used to educate people about "the craft" (that means Freemasonry). That book is The Clergy and the Craft and it says that the people who are quoted in it are Masons. (See Haggard, Forrest D. Transactions Missouri Lodge of Research, Vol. No. 27, The Clergy and the Craft, p. 127. where Graham endorses the Masonic youth program. In terms of witnesses who have put what they have witnessed in writing we have the following:
· Jim Shaw, ex-33° Mason -- the highest ranking Freemason to defect to Christianity, writes about Billy Graham being at his 33° initiation ceremony. Huntington House refused to print his book co-authored with Tom McKenney unless they took out Billy Graham’s name on pg. 104, and substituted a general description. (See The Deadly Deception, p. 104-105.) Only Freemasons are allowed to attend these initiations. (See The New Age, the official organ of The Supreme Council 33°. Wash., D.C., October 1961, p. 30.) Some Christians have tried every thing in their mind to get around Jim Shaw’s testimony. And the Masonic Lodge are now claiming that he wasn’t a 33° Freemason. There is no doubt that he was a 33° Mason.
What we are seeing is how important it is to the Illuminati to keep Billy Graham’s membership secret. Originally, Dr. Morey who wrote a book on Freemasonry told me over the phone that Billy Graham was a 33° Freemason and that he had held his membership file in his hand in the library of the House of the Temple, which is where the Supreme Council of the 33° has their headquarters. However, now he denies it and says that he only was told by the librarians that the file existed, but that he didn’t examine the membership file. He wrote a letter to Christian News to the editor which was printed. At least, his letter to the editor of Christian News says that the Scottish Rite have a Billy Graham file. Fritz stands by his original statements about what Dr. Morey said, even though he has gone back on his original story and is getting people to think Fritz somehow invented what he told me.
There are a great many things that are suspicious about Dr. Morey. His book on Freemasonry claims that Freemasonry started out a Christian organization. His book was printed by a company that uses the Knights Templar logo as their company logo, and whose company head is most likely a Freemason. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck--what do you think it is? Long before I actually knew Billy Graham was a 33° Freemason, I felt that was the "most likely" explanation for what I was learning of him. What caused me to think that way? Everything about the man, just shouted Freemason. The way he talks, who he has as friends, etc. etc. This article is not capable of going into depth about small nuances and details, but suffice it to say that the Masons know how to broadcast to other Masons that they are a Mason. It should be pointed out some of the key people for Billy Graham’s staff have been Freemasons. Let’s look at a few of the key people helping Billy Graham:
William M. Watson -- DIRECTOR OF THE BILLY GRAHAM EVANGELISTIC ASSOCIATION, he is a Freemason, and he is also President of Occidental Petroleum Corporation. Chairman of Occidental was Armand Hammer. Watson is also a member of the development council of the Masonic run Baylor University. Baylor University has participated in the mind-control, (See also the expose of Baylor University in Be Wise As Serpents.) He also was a member of the advisory council to the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Ft. Worth which had at least three Freemasons on its board of trustees, and likely more.
David M. McConnell -- DIRECTOR OF THE BILLY GRAHAM EVANGELISTIC ASSOCIATION, he is a Freemason, He was also U.S. ambassador to the United Nations (1968-69), business associate with Illuminatus
Charles Gambrell, in Belk Stores of Charlotte, North Carolina.
Arthur Lee Malory -- CO-CHAIRMAN of the BILLY GRAHAM CRUSADE Advisory Committee for the 1973 St. Louis Crusade -- 32° Freemason, deacon in the So. Bapt. Church.
Who are some of the primary ministers that had worked with 33° Freemason Billy Graham over the years?
Billy Graham has helped set up other 33° Masons in ministry. Billy Graham has placed his stamp of approval on almost every well-known apostate Christian out there. When Billy Graham had a crusade in Japan, the Japanese minister that he had up on the platform was a well-known extremely liberal Christian. A conservative Japanese people was shocked. Billy Graham is also endorsing many of the books, and ministries of these apostates.
Some of the three biggest ministers in the protestant world, Robert Schuller, Norman Vincent Peale, and Oral Roberts are all 33° Masonic brothers of 33° Freemason Billy Graham.
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(See Roberts, Oral. Miracle of Seed Faith, p.9.)
Billy Graham has helped each of these brothers with their ministries. Robert Schuller taught principles of church growth to Unity School in Kansas City. A Christian, who used to be on staff there, said that Robert Schuller was fully aware that Luciferian Initiations were going on at the school and that he didn’t care. Robert Schuller, 33° Freemason, was helped into ministry by Billy Graham. Schuller also participates in the Monarch program and is also sexually serviced by Monarch slaves. Norman Vincent Peale’s form of Christianity called positive thinking is actually only white witchcraft with different names.
Peale simply is a "Christian" witch. Norman Vincent Peale, 33° Freemason, his church receive the bulk of people who came forward at the NY Crusade. Norman Vincent Peale is a 6° Illuminatus (Pilgrim Society), and a 33° Freemason. In the magazine Psychic Magazine of San Francisco Peale says of occultist Kreskin,
"All he’s doing is dramatizing what I’ve been preaching in my writing for years."
Norman Vincent Peale controls the approx. $200 million Presbyterian Minister’s Fund. He celebrated the 25th anniversary of the United Nations. He was the keynote speaker at the birthday of the late Mormon prophet Spencer W. Kimball (a secret Mason). Peale praised Kimball as a true prophet of God, and a great man of God. Peale practices witchcraft, and palms it off on unsuspecting Christians under different terminology.
The false unity movement which is so strong today, wants to unite the devout Christian with the likes of Norman Vincent Peale. Peale is a good friend of Billy Graham, and Billy Graham referred the largest number of new converts of the NY Billy Graham Crusade to Peale’s church.
Oral Roberts, 33° Freemason, helped into ministry by his masonic brother Billy Graham. Oral Roberts has been seen by witnesses participating in SRA and Mind-control. Oral Roberts University and the charismatic movement is another important religious front. The Charismatic movement has been infiltrated by multiples since day-one. The history of the infiltration is extensive. Oral Roberts had cherokee blood, According to some things that Oral Roberts has said, some Christians think that he received his healing powers from an old Indian who healed him through indian shamanism when Oral was young. At times, Oral does use the same methods that spirit mediums use to heal with. According to slaves who have been deprogrammed, they were in satanic rituals with Oral Roberts.
Christian ministers, who have participated in his ministry are saying that they have seen massive swindle in his healing ministry. His university is being used as a programming center. His basketball team at one time had Monarch slaves playing on it. We do not know if they still do. Under the prayer tower is one of the programming sites.
Billy Graham, a handler himself, helped launch Oral Roberts University, and is a friend of Oral Roberts. From the Illuminati’s point of view Tulsa is the Guardian City of Apollo. The City of Faith is to be the center for healing from AEsculapius, a demon related to Apollo. While portraying themselves as Christians, infiltrators within the charismatic movement are carrying out satanic rituals to get demonic healing powers. Tulsa is one of, if the main center for the campaign to infiltrate Christianity via the Charismatic/Pentecostal movement with programmed multiples.
G. Bromiey Oxnam, 33° Freemason, was head of the FCC churches, supportive friend of Billy Graham, G. Bromley Oxnam has a long history to him of working for the elite, interested readers can pick up his story in Be Wise As Serpents in the chapter that goes into the details about how the Christian churches were organized by the FCC and WCC for the Illuminati.
The NWO is infiltrating the churches via the Earth Stewardship Movement. An attempt was made at Rio de Janeiro to get an Earth Charter but there wasn’t enough time, their were lots of N.O.G. delegates and just in general lots of people to coordinate (4,000 attended). Another Earth Summit was promised, but instead they decided at the end of Sept/Oct of ’95 to have a State of the World Forum to be held by/sponsored by the Gorbachev Foundation at the Presidio, CA. The ex-head of the KGB, Gorbachev is now headquartered in the Presideo, a major mind-control programming site.
Christian basher Ted Turner was the chairman of the conference. The cost was $5,000 per person and the invitations went out to only select people. There were 100 handpicked politicians who received invitations, along with Billy Graham and Mother Teresa. This was coordinated with the 50th anniversary of the UN which was being celebrated all over the world.
FLEECING THE SHEEP
The charismatic movement claims to have the Holy Spirit in a special way, however, some seem to be lacking in all discernment that the Holy Spirit would give. There are several books exposing the big name Charismatic ministers. One is written by an ex-charismatic Assembly of God minister. He shows a picture in his book of an Assembly of God flier promoting the "Testimony of J. Edgar Hoover." Yes, the Assembly of God promoted the ,,testimony" of J. Edgar Hoover, while he was known to be a power hungry individual who practiced homosexuality, It was this type of hype that caused this minister to grow disillusioned with the charismatic movement’s so called spirituality.
Recently, the spiritual discernment of Billy Graham and many other big time ministries was exposed when these big Christian ministries were conned out of $550 million dollars. Billy Graham introduced John G. Bennett to thousands of people at a recent Billy Graham Crusade in Philadelphia in 1992. John Bennett gave his testimony at the crusade.
Because Billy Graham, John Templeton, and Laurence Rockefeller were apparently supportive of John G. Bennett, big time Christian ministries "trusted" him. John told many of the big Christian ministries that if they gave him millions of dollars, for every million he received he would give them two million back. Many of the big Christian ministries gave Bennett money--in fact he collected $550 million (which he ran off with) from ministries such as Pat Robertson’s, Bill Bright’s, Chuck Colson’s, Luis Palau’s, Westminster Theological Seminary, Wheaton College, the Salvation Army and many others. The reader may have heard of this New Era Foundation scam.
That’s what it was. Bennett told these "Christian" leaders "Give New Era one million dollars and we’ll give you back two million." The donations of hard earned money by many innocent Christian believers were lost, However, the Christian believers are partially responsible because the church has refused to clean house of wolves that set in their pulpits.
For instance, when Billy Graham came to the Portland area all the various denominations from the most liberal to the most conservative supported him. Only about a dozen churches did not get involved and only one church actively tried to expose Billy Graham--EVEN THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN A MASS OF DOCUMENTATION EXPOSING BILLY GRAHAM AS A WOLF FOR 30 YEARS. When the church refuses to follow God’s Word and supports these men--then they must take some of the blame when these men give their millions of hard earned dollars away to a con artist.
INADEQUATE REACTIONS
When people have been warned about Billy Graham, one of the common responses is to for people to call up the Billy Graham crusade staff, If I ask a biologist a question about biology I can expect to get a credible answer, If I ask a mother about her son I can expect to get a credible answer. But how in the world can someone call up the Billy Graham Crusade staff and expect to get a credible answer to the question "Is Billy Graham a Mason?" The person that answers the phone is likely a secretary, someone who knows Billy Graham no more than the janitor. What does that person know about the Freemasons?
Because the Freemasons are a secret society, in general, there are only two basic categories of people--people involved with Freemasonry, and they certainly know what’s going on in it but they have taken blood oaths on penalty of death not to talk about it, and those who aren’t involved with Freemasonry and don’t know anything about it. There are only a few people who are not masons, who are informed about the Masons. The answer of some secretary over the phone to the question, Is Billy Graham a Freemason?" is of little value, because the secretary or other staff member has not had the opportunity to get reliable information. This is from the standpoint of getting a reliable witness, calling some secretary or staff member is simply not a credible response to all the documentation. No court would view a secretary of a large organization as an expert witness qualified to settle such a dispute.
The second catch is that such witnesses are not reasonably unbiased. It is expected that Billy Graham’s staff would front for him any questions that could expose him to bad publicity. This last comment is not speculation. There is proof that Billy Graham’s staff has consistently lied over the years to prevent negative publicity about Billy Graham.
When Richard Nixon met with his political buddies to decide who to have run with him, the person he asked first in the smoke-filled room was Billy Graham, I have read the account of this is more than one place, but I will quote Marshall Frady’s description of when Billy Graham was asked who he thought should run with Nixon as Nixon’s vice-presidential running mate. Billy Graham chose 33° Masonic brother (then only 32°) Mark Hatfield.
Here is Frady’s description. "His assimilation into the Nixon presidency had already been well underway, in fact, at that convention in Miami when, after Nixon’s nomination, Graham wound up sitting in Nixon’s penthouse suite among the smoggy late-night deliberations over Nixon’s vice-presidential selection: Graham himself, whatever initial uncertainty he might have felt to find himself in such a political locker-room session, soon pitched into the proceedings with his own effusive recommendation of Mark Hatfield: "He’s a great Christian leader. He’s almost a clergyman. He’s been an educator, and he’s taken a more liberal stand on most issues than you, and I think the ticket needs that kind of balance."
In 1992, Mark Hatfield, along with Prince Hall Freemason Jessie Jackson both were on television in July of last year defending Billy Graham’s actions. Mark Hatfield, according to a deprogrammed slave has been a user of Monarch sexual slaves. NY’s Union Seminary is controlled and funded by the Rockefellers. President of Union Seminary was Dr. Henry Van Dusen. Billy Graham made him a prominent person in his crusade and said he was a "classic example" of a mass evangelism conversion.
If that is a good example of Graham’s conversions, we Christians should shudder. It is no coincidence that the Southern Baptists of which Billy Graham is a member, is controlled by the Freemasons. Brook Hays, Pres, of the So. Bapt. Convention was a high ranking Freemason as well as part of the CFR. None of the So. Bapt. Convention’s Presidents have opposed Freemasonry.
Pres. Bill Clinton, a slave handler, is a member of the Emmanuel Baptist Church which is a Southern Baptist Church in Little Rock, Ark. The late Bill Moyers who promoted the Mystery Religions was a Southern Baptist. Moyers went to the SW Baptist Theological Seminary, the same school run by one of Billy Graham’s staff directors.
John Buchanan is another Southern Baptist. John Buchanan went to a So. Bapt. Seminary, and then worked as a front man for People for the American Way started by Jewish Norman Lear, an anti-Christian. People might be shocked to learn of some of the New Age teachings and New Age teachers that have been allowed into the Southern Baptist churches. The Southern Baptist youth program is based on Masonic ideas and is very masonic in its ritual.
SUMMARY
The reader is thanked for wading through a lot of difficult material. The reader can see why Billy Graham may well be the greatest deception that has ever been successfully pulled off.
But as Abraham Lincoln said, "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time." Ever since the early 1950s, there have been Christians exposing Billy Graham, But the control of the Christian media and the Christian seminaries is far more extensive than most people realize. The Be Wise As Serpents book diagrams out how the Christian religious denominations are being controlled, and how the Masons and Illuminati-connected administrators and trustees have control of most of the Seminaries.
Billy Graham without a doubt works directly for the Satanic hierarchy. But a rational and fair appraisal of what the man is, and what damage he has done to Christianity will probably not be given much of a chance. Nobody, no matter who they are is going to fool Christ. There will be a real evaluation done on judgment day and when that day comes Christ said,
“MANY WILL SAY TO ME IN THAT DAY, LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN YOUR NAME, CAST OUT DEMONS IN YOUR NAME, AND DONE MANY WONDERS IN YOUR NAME? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!” Mt 7:22-23
THE TOP SECRET AMISH FRONT (& HUTTERITES)
It will probably assist the reader to know that both of the authors have first hand experience with the following information about the Amish. Fritz was Amish for several years as an Amish church member in church districts in Kansas, Missouri, and Illinois. He has also visited numerous Amish settlements in the U.S. & Canada, and lived/worked with the horse and buggy Old Order Mennonites (not to be confused with the Old Order Amish Mennonites) in Ontario Canada for half a year. He has a manuscript of a book that he wrote about the Old Order Amish Mennonites, and has gone so far as to inquire with publishers like National Geographic if they would like some of his material.
He has also attended a variety of Mennonite churches, including Church of God in Christ, Menn. (Holdeman’s), Charismatic Mennonite, Conserv. Menn. and Beachy Amish churches across the U.S. He also knows first-hand that Illuminati slaves, some of who are programmers, have been infiltrated by the Illuminati into Mennonite churches.
Perhaps what may come across as the strangest religious front, and it is certainly one of the biggest secrets of the intelligence agencies is their use of the Old Order Amish Mennonites as a front. The Amish are the most pacifistic people, so the Illuminati/intelligence agencies have placed some of their best programmed assassins behind the front of being Amish. The front is real--they are Amish, well, many of them, some were Illuminati children switched at birth to give the programmers better bloodlines to work from. Some Amish women in cult families have let the Illuminati impregnate them with stronger bloodlines. Many Nazi bloodlines were hidden after WW II under the Mennonite/Amish cover.
The Mennonites and some of the more progressive Amish adopt many children. The Amish in Missouri (Jamestown), Kansas (south of Hutchison), and Oklahoma (Guthrie, OK), Kentucky, Ohio (Holmes Co., OH), and Pennsylvania (Lancaster,PA) have been involved in selling their children to the Illuminati. When the Illuminati would buy a child they would send in one of their own midwives to help with the birth and retrieve the child.
Generally, the Amish would sell their children when they realized they were going to have twins. One would be given to the cult, and one would be kept by the Amish parents. Because these children are born outside of the system, and have no birth certificates, they made excellent children to use in porn. They also can be used as expendable children to use in porn. They were often blond haired and blue eyed. The Amish women were not allowed to use birth control, it was forbidden by the church, and they were not allowed to have an abortion, and it was their duty to have sex with their husbands. It is possible that some parents sold their children just to get out of the responsibility of having another child.
The Amish farms in Kansas and Oklahoma and in the border states like Missouri and Kentucky are mechanized with tractors, and they don’t need the large families that the Amish in other places need. Due to the strong legalism that pervades their church, some have tried to get around the tight spot that the rules place them in by selling a few unnoticed children.
However, there is an active witchcraft practicing occult group within the Amish which is like a box within a box within a box. It is very secret. There are many ways of describing what is going on with the Amish. Let’s describe quickly in half a page (it could be a book in itself) what a deep look at the spiritual dynamics of what is going on with their communities.
The rise of Satanism within their ranks is simply a natural outgrowth of the spiritual dynamics. There were two trees in the Garden of Eden, one was the Tree of Life and one was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. The first meant being transformed by the Creator who made them into the image of the Spirit of God and receiving spiritual life, but the other tree was performance.
The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (religion) includes both Law (good) and license (evil). As soon as a group gets legalistic, they fall from grace. They then separate themselves by their performance and say in effect “look at what we’re doing” which is a form of pride. God resists the proud, so they through a number of spiritual dynamics lose fellowship with God. This means they must cling to their legalistic traditions even more, because a live relationship with God is gone. (Bible Studies are forbidden by most Amish church distrists, and they don’t get new revelation from God, they still are working off of the revelations of the 1600s, when they were traumatized and quit growing. When they split from the rest of the Mennonites, they were like a child alter split which never grows up.) When a group gets legalism, they also get license, because the two grow from the same tree. Every Amish community has two large groups--the legalistic ones and the license ones.
The young people are even split this way. In Lancaster County, the Groffies” is the nickname of the large license group of young people who fornicate and drink. There is a smaller group of legalistic conservative young people too, who are at the other end of the spectrum. There is one group (gang might be a more appropriate name) called Jamborees who are an unruly and destructive collection of angry wild young people.
The Bishops in Lancaster Co. meet twice yearly to keep this large settlement of opposites together. A lot of compromise and looking the other way is done for the sake of peace. “Peace” at any price is the name of the game. Even before a prayer is said in church the minister calls out, “Wenn mer eenich sin, wella mer bete.” This translates, “If we are in one accord, then let us pray.” Because peace is so important, they are out of balance in getting it. They place peace far above truth.
In order to have the appearance that everything is well, secrecy pervades everything like the air one breathes. Because their whole culture is secret, children raised in it aren’t aware of how strong it is, it is simply a way of life, like it is for the Illuminati. Legalism values conformity. Conformity prefers robotic obedience over understanding.
In fact, one Bishop told Fritz, co-author of this book, “We don’t want our young folks to understand why they do what they do, we only want obedience. Understanding is dangerous.” Does the reader begin to see how the Amish make both the perfect setting for Monarch Mind-Control, and the perfect cover. The Amish are a very secret group. During their early history they suffered severe persecution. Their culture teaches them to suffer in silence, which today helps their Satanic abusers infiltrate their culture.
In the past in Europe, when the Catholic or Protestant church caught them they were tortured to death. They were hunted as animals and treated worse than animals when caught. This was the trauma, that Satan did to them, and the lie that was then handed them was that if they would cloister themselves secretly in the New World away from everyone else, they would be safe.
The Amish have shut out from outsiders the true flavor of their culture and beliefs. They are silent about their problems. They tell themselves that outsiders couldn’t possibly be interested in their affairs. The Amish themselves are very divided from each other. The divisions between Amish groups is called Zwietract. Zwietract can cover anything from a mild aloofness to a full fledged shunning (called the Meidung).
The Amish aren’t in general qualified to tell outsiders much in detail about their own heritage, o