Cobain murdered by CIA

[hunkahunka]

Just watched it. Excellent video. Thanks for posting this.

Best,

Seaweed

glad you enjoyed, now I would just like to know why so many of the video links in this thread are now gone. The links to the Fritz Springmeir videos that I posted are gone. If this wasn't happening, this thread would have had 100,000 hits by now.

[soulja]

yea i noticed that too, some of the pics from the earlier pages are gone aswell.
makes it hard for newbies to fully follow/understand the points being made.

at least the pic issue would have been preventable if we weren't such a lazy hotlinking bunch but rather used photobucket and such like for every single image we used in our posts. :D

[hunkahunka]

I know what you mean, but we put is so much volunteer time on this to begin with, it gets really time consuming to save and repost every pic to a separate service, and even then you wonder how long that server/service will keep it active.
AS far as the Youtube links, I know that part of the problem is that Google/Youtube (Google owns Youtube now) have recently been in a frenzy of deleting the Youtube user's accounts that the government deems 'sensitive' to its interests. Alex Jones was talking about this on Friday's show.

I have personally had my Youtube account yanked and all of my videos removed, including two about William Burroughs, one about 'My Own Private Idaho', one about 'Elephant', etc., and some of those videos were at one point linked to in this very thread. I don't know about all the other video links that have gone missing, though.

I have sent a message to this forum's webmaster to see if we can find out what is going on.

[brown velvet]

yea i noticed that too, some of the pics from the earlier pages are gone aswell.
makes it hard for newbies to fully follow/understand the points being made.

at least the pic issue would have been preventable if we weren't such a lazy hotlinking bunch but rather used photobucket and such like for every single image we used in our posts. :D

you mean like saving them all somewhere else...? Like you taught me to do? lolol :p *shines*

brown.

[soulja]

yea like i taught you to, i should have practised what i 'preached' a bit more myself but like hunka said it's really time consuming to save and repost every pic and then there's no guarantee how long they'll be up on whatever service one uses.

you shine allright brown, the effort you put in your posts is incredible and always a pleasure to read.
we should celebrate the day you started contributing to this thread, every year! :D

btw what program do you use to assemble all your pics together to outsmart the 10 pics per post limit ?

[brown velvet]

yea like i taught you to, i should have practised what i 'preached' a bit more myself but like hunka said it's really time consuming to save and repost every pic and then there's no guarantee how long they'll be up on whatever service one uses.

you shine allright brown, the effort you put in your posts is incredible and always a pleasure to read.
we should celebrate the day you started contributing to this thread, every year! :D

btw what program do you use to assemble all your pics together to outsmart the 10 pics per post limit ?

Aww... thanks :D
I use ps8, paste them in to the one image and then save them at photobucket... kind of, try and see how to get around a rubbishy 10 image link lol
I work well with images, if 'they' can use them to damage, then I can use them to undo and / or explain far better than using words, although Fritzmeister's words are pretty clear, read it five times....? FFS I've been reading it for years, I STILL find info perceived as one thing turn in to another every reading....
it's all such great (and hard) work, I would like to thank you for your continuing insights, and hunkahunka, great to learn such diverse info can be linked so easily, if you know what to look for. Was fascinated with your 'square' obs on the Harry Potter cover etc.... am keeping a lookout for them now.

brown.

[soulja]

thx brown, will torrent that ps8 as soon as i'm at home.

now after a nice round of mutual backpadding let's get back to business.

was reading this book called ''Unternehmen Aldebaran''
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417QC9NRA1L._SL500_AA240_.jpg

in english that would be ''project Aldebaran'' but in my opinion it should be called ''MK cover up''

it's about a german family who gets more or less regulary visits from aliens, those aliens are white skinned, look very similar to us and speak german.
their little helpers are the greys. they take people and implant chips in them to better ''find'' them and also to ''heal'' them :rolleyes:

there many little children on these ''spaceships'' who according to the aliens are the new race that's bred by them mixing human and alien genes.
that's the reason why they take the sperm of male abductees btw.

i really had to force myself to finish the book as there's so much obvious nonsense designed to cover up MK ''work'' and spin the experience into something beautiful and special it's quiet sickening really.

only the special ones get selected the aliens told the family, the rest of humanity is pretty much doomed while the selected ones are those that will help create the golden age.

the book is full of fancy rethoric like ''don't think but feel the information'' ''if you have doubts that this is true it's your inner fears speaking'' and so on..

the question why the ''good'' aliens abduct people mostly at night and in secrecy is answered: well because the bad aliens who work together with the US government are trying to stop the good aliens!

also all abductees have agreed to it before they incarnated :rolleyes:

the thule society are the good guys and were working on Ufos with the vril technologie in order to visit aldebaran.
thule comes from the templars who back in the days were given some magical stone by a being they called Isais (isis anyone?)
http://www.wfg-gk.de/salienbild30.jpghttp://www.wfg-gk.de/salienbild31.jpghttp://www.wfg-gk.de/salienbild32.jpg
http://www.causa-nostra.com/vril/cn703/ex/IsaiswegS-e0703a02-q4.jpg


oh and the leader of the aldebarans is called ENO (= one)

[hunkahunka]

please see this story on Youtube's censorship of sensitive videos:

http://www.infowars.com/?p=4601

also this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUn3gE4bncg

[emerald]

Blind Melon Biography Released

One of the most tragic stories of the 1990's rock world was that of singer Shannon Hoon, and his band, Blind Melon. Despite scoring one of the decade's most enduring singles and videos, "No Rain," and a quadruple platinum hit with their 1992 self-titled debut album (in addition to touring alongside rock's biggest names), Hoon could not overcome a dangerous drug addiction. Only two records into a promising career, Hoon was dead from an overdose at the age of 28. 'A Devil on One Shoulder and an Angel on the Other' is the first book to tell the group's story – culled from over 50 exclusive interviews, and featuring many never-before-seen photos.

'A Devil on One Shoulder' was written by journalist Greg Prato, whose work as appeared in a variety of sites and magazines, including All Music Guide, Billboard.com, Rolling Stone.com, and Classic Rock Magazine, among others. A long-time fan of the band, Greg has been working on this book - with the help of the surviving members of the band - for the past few years. In the process, Greg conducted interviews with such renowned rock names as Duff McKagan (Velvet Revolver/Guns N' Roses), Gilby Clarke (G n' R), Mike Clink (G n' R producer), Kim Thayil (Soundgarden), Jerry Cantrell (Alice in Chains), Mike Inez (Alice in Chains), and Craig Ross (Lenny Kravitz), plus family and friends - including Shannon's mother, Nel Hoon.

While it will obviously appeal to fans of Shannon and Blind Melon, this 344 page paperback book (whose title comes from a phrase that guitarist Rogers Stevens once said to describe Shannon) will also be of interest to fans of Guns N' Roses, as Shannon's friendship with Axl Rose is chronicled throughout the years, as well as memories of when Melon opened shows for G n' R in 1993 (at their out-of-control peak). Elsewhere, you'll find additional stories on Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Neil Young, Lenny Kravitz, Page & Plant, and the Rolling Stones – all of which are bands that Blind Melon toured with. And of course, new light is shed directly on this great yet often underrated band, as you get the inside scoop behind the three classic Hoon-era albums (the aforementioned 'Blind Melon,' 1995's 'Soup,' and 1996's posthumous release, 'Nico'), the story behind "No Rain," the colorful yet tragic life of Shannon, and the group's recent rebirth, with new singer Travis Warren (and new album, 2008's 'For My Friends').

The book is available through www.lulu.com for $19.99 (U.S.), and there are samples to read at the site (including a full chapter, titled 'Axl and Shannon'). Blind Melon and Shannon Hoon's unforgettable story certainly deserves to be told, and 'A Devil on One Shoulder and an Angel on the Other' covers all the bases. "I am honored that Greg has painstakingly accounted for what the hell happened during those crazy times. He has summed up all the chaos, jubilation, and paranoia that is Blind Melon." -

[emerald]

This is one sick bitch:

Diablo Cody addresses teenage cannibalism in 'Jennifer's Body'

VANCOUVER, CANADA - THE VOMIT shot out of Megan Fox like water from a geyser. A ghastly movie concoction that looked like a mix of used motor oil, lawn clippings and the slag at the bottom of a Souplantation trash bin, the black puke sprayed actors Amanda Seyfried and Johnny Simmons, whose characters were doing their best to fight off a cannibalistic fiend, an otherwise popular cheerleader named Jennifer Check.

It was among the more gothic scenes in "Jennifer's Body," a closing battle with fewer rules than Ultimate Fighting, pitting Jennifer ("Transformer's" Fox) against her longtime friend Needy Lesnicky (Seyfried, of " Mamma Mia!") and her relatively wimpy boyfriend Chip Dove ("Evan Almighty's" Simmons). The movie's swimming pool location, inside a derelict juvenile hall slated to become a hospital for British Columbia's criminally insane, was forbidding in its own right. The flotsam in the pool's filthy water -- leaves, a wheelchair, beer cans -- made the entire setting for the film stomach-turning, especially since the young actors had to swim in it.

Somehow, though, it wasn't quite disturbing enough.

"The vomit has too much hang time," said Karyn Kusama ("Girlfight"), the film's director. "It's arcing too much." Screenwriter Diablo Cody wondered aloud, "Can't we adjust it, like a shower head?"

o the "Jennifer's Body" special-effects team reset the compressed-air-powered rig, which discharged the artificial throw up from a tube hidden near Fox's mouth. Carrying a lot more momentum, the barf in the subsequent take screamed out with the trajectory of a Manny Ramirez line drive. "That's our money shot," Cody said as the actors toweled themselves off.

Classing it down?

OSCAR-WINNING screenwriter Steven Zaillian followed his "Schindler's List" win with "A Civil Action" and "Gangs of New York." After winning his "Forrest Gump" screenwriting Academy Award, Eric Roth scripted "The Insider" and "Ali." Ronald Harwood went from the Oscar-winning "The Pianist" to "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly." Cody's post-Oscar path follows a much different direction.

Fresh from her " Juno" triumph, a debut script that not only brought her the 2007 original screenplay trophy but also made her one of the town's most in-demand storytellers, the 30-year-old Cody decided to make a horror film.

"I was just experimenting with several scripts," said Cody, who also has worked on the Showtime television series "The United States of Tara" and the script for the college comedy "Girly Style." "I did not think this would be my follow-up to 'Juno.' But I don't know if I will ever write [another] highbrow, artsy movie."

In fact, Cody tried to get her Oscar out of her mind -- and eyesight. "I literally put it away -- under my bathroom sink with the toilet paper," she said. "It was difficult to look at. I wanted to think of something else."

Just as "Juno" was hardly a standard-issue teen pregnancy film, "Jennifer's Body," which comes out next year, intends to be an equally atypical genre movie.

Yes, several people will die horrific deaths. Of course, a stunning girl will appear wearing very few clothes. A young couple will fumble having sex. Pretty much everyone old enough to pay bills -- police, parents, teachers -- will come across as inept. And then, if Cody and Kusama can pull it off, "Jennifer's Body" will veer off in new directions, trying to bring some girl power to what are almost always damsel-in-distress narratives.

"I want to be faithful to the genre but also turn all of those things sideways," Cody continued. "My biggest priority is putting words in women's mouths -- it just doesn't happen. Women don't get the good lines. They don't get to do anything. And they don't get to be reckless. And I've always been reckless."

A former alternative newspaper reporter, Internet blogger, sex industry worker and memoirist, Cody grew up loving scary 1970s and 1980s movies -- "I'm a horror junkie," she said. Cody was particularly drawn to thrillers with artistic flair -- "Rosemary's Baby," "Carrie," "The Shining," "Poltergeist" and the darkly comic pre-" Spider-Man" films from director Sam Raimi, especially "The Evil Dead."

Yet Cody was equally struck by films that many might not find inherently terrifying, including Sofia Coppola's "The Virgin Suicides." "There's the idea of the adolescent feminine mystique being inherently creepy," Cody said. "Two girls holding hands platonically as they cross a schoolyard -- I find that creepy."

Just girls being bad

THE CENTRAL characters in her "Jennifer's Body" script are two classmates whose friendship dates back to slumber parties: Needy and Jennifer. Jennifer is a man-eater in both the literal and figurative sense. Needy has been resolutely faithful to her BFF, but changes course when Jennifer crosses to the dark side and decides that Needy's boyfriend, Chip, would make for a tasty piece of teen jerky. "I am directly influenced by girls I have known," Cody said. "Girls who treated life as a race, and if there was someone or something they wanted, they would stab you in the back. It's a movie about hunger. A lot of teenage girls are starving themselves and a lot of them are psychologically hungry, because they are so misunderstood."

Cody wrote "Jennifer's Body" after "Juno," but before the latter film was released theatrically last December. Producer Jason Reitman, who directed "Juno," and Fox Atomic, 20th Century Fox's since-downsized genre label, joined to buy the screenplay.

"I think the script flummoxes some people," Cody said. "It's a little weird, not what you're used to." In fact, she said, she's a little "worried" about how "Jennifer's Body" might be received. " 'Juno' is a life-affirming movie," Cody said over dinner, with filming wrapped for the day. "And this is a death-affirming movie. The people who really loved 'Juno' -- I don't know if they will love this in the same way. And the people who hated 'Juno' -- well, this will just be more grist for the mill."

While the film, set in rural Minnesota not far from where Cody once lived, tweaks the conventions of the killer-on-the-loose genre, it does so in Cody's familiar pop-culture-reference-laden style. When a poser devil-worshiping rock band named Low Shoulder decides to perform a human sacrifice, they rely on plans printed out from the Internet.

"Do you know how hard it is to make it as an indie band these days?" one of the group's members, Nikolai ( Adam Brody), says as he prepares to follow the online slaying instructions. "There are so many of us and we're all so damned cute. If you don't get on 'Letterman' or some retarded soundtrack. . . . Satan is our only hope."

Kusama and Cody face an unusual challenge with "Jennifer's Body": While the film is populated with gorgeous women, they want to make sure the movie isn't lecherous. "That's something you have to grapple with when you are making a monster movie -- the girls have to look hot," said Cody, who describes herself as a radical feminist. "We didn't have to worry as much about ["Juno" star] Ellen Page's lip gloss" as how Seyfried and Fox look in this film.

"But horror is a surprisingly feminist genre," Cody said. "The last person standing is usually a woman. And most of the guys in this movie are vain and insecure. You'll notice there are no fathers in this movie. I didn't want there to be any male role models -- I didn't feel these were girls who were loved by their fathers."

memoiristDirector Kusama, who read "Jennifer's Body" before she had seen "Juno" or heard of Cody, said the script reminded her of a Grimm fairy tale. "What's really special about it is the emotional underpinning of the story, and the idea that your parents cannot protect you," Kusama said.

As she bobbed in the pool wearing a black-and-white prom dress (of course, there's a prom scene -- it's a horror movie after all), the 22-year-old Fox said she knows girls like Jennifer all too well. "I was the Jennifer of my school -- the troublemaker, the anarchist," Fox said. "She has an appetite for destruction."

It's because of people like Jennifer, Fox said, "that I don't have any girlfriends. Because they always want what every other woman has. There's no loyalty among women." Still, Fox said, her character isn't pure evil.

"I hope that people feel sorry for her," she said. "She's a victim before she's a predator."

[james83]

This is one sick bitch:

Diablo Cody addresses teenage cannibalism in 'Jennifer's Body'

VANCOUVER, CANADA - THE VOMIT shot out of Megan Fox like water from a geyser. A ghastly movie concoction that looked like a mix of used motor oil, lawn clippings and the slag at the bottom of a Souplantation trash bin, the black puke sprayed actors Amanda Seyfried and Johnny Simmons, whose characters were doing their best to fight off a cannibalistic fiend, an otherwise popular cheerleader named Jennifer Check.

It was among the more gothic scenes in "Jennifer's Body," a closing battle with fewer rules than Ultimate Fighting, pitting Jennifer ("Transformer's" Fox) against her longtime friend Needy Lesnicky (Seyfried, of " Mamma Mia!") and her relatively wimpy boyfriend Chip Dove ("Evan Almighty's" Simmons). The movie's swimming pool location, inside a derelict juvenile hall slated to become a hospital for British Columbia's criminally insane, was forbidding in its own right. The flotsam in the pool's filthy water -- leaves, a wheelchair, beer cans -- made the entire setting for the film stomach-turning, especially since the young actors had to swim in it.

Somehow, though, it wasn't quite disturbing enough.

"The vomit has too much hang time," said Karyn Kusama ("Girlfight"), the film's director. "It's arcing too much." Screenwriter Diablo Cody wondered aloud, "Can't we adjust it, like a shower head?"

o the "Jennifer's Body" special-effects team reset the compressed-air-powered rig, which discharged the artificial throw up from a tube hidden near Fox's mouth. Carrying a lot more momentum, the barf in the subsequent take screamed out with the trajectory of a Manny Ramirez line drive. "That's our money shot," Cody said as the actors toweled themselves off.

Classing it down?

OSCAR-WINNING screenwriter Steven Zaillian followed his "Schindler's List" win with "A Civil Action" and "Gangs of New York." After winning his "Forrest Gump" screenwriting Academy Award, Eric Roth scripted "The Insider" and "Ali." Ronald Harwood went from the Oscar-winning "The Pianist" to "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly." Cody's post-Oscar path follows a much different direction.

Fresh from her " Juno" triumph, a debut script that not only brought her the 2007 original screenplay trophy but also made her one of the town's most in-demand storytellers, the 30-year-old Cody decided to make a horror film.

"I was just experimenting with several scripts," said Cody, who also has worked on the Showtime television series "The United States of Tara" and the script for the college comedy "Girly Style." "I did not think this would be my follow-up to 'Juno.' But I don't know if I will ever write [another] highbrow, artsy movie."

In fact, Cody tried to get her Oscar out of her mind -- and eyesight. "I literally put it away -- under my bathroom sink with the toilet paper," she said. "It was difficult to look at. I wanted to think of something else."

Just as "Juno" was hardly a standard-issue teen pregnancy film, "Jennifer's Body," which comes out next year, intends to be an equally atypical genre movie.

Yes, several people will die horrific deaths. Of course, a stunning girl will appear wearing very few clothes. A young couple will fumble having sex. Pretty much everyone old enough to pay bills -- police, parents, teachers -- will come across as inept. And then, if Cody and Kusama can pull it off, "Jennifer's Body" will veer off in new directions, trying to bring some girl power to what are almost always damsel-in-distress narratives.

"I want to be faithful to the genre but also turn all of those things sideways," Cody continued. "My biggest priority is putting words in women's mouths -- it just doesn't happen. Women don't get the good lines. They don't get to do anything. And they don't get to be reckless. And I've always been reckless."

A former alternative newspaper reporter, Internet blogger, sex industry worker and memoirist, Cody grew up loving scary 1970s and 1980s movies -- "I'm a horror junkie," she said. Cody was particularly drawn to thrillers with artistic flair -- "Rosemary's Baby," "Carrie," "The Shining," "Poltergeist" and the darkly comic pre-" Spider-Man" films from director Sam Raimi, especially "The Evil Dead."

Yet Cody was equally struck by films that many might not find inherently terrifying, including Sofia Coppola's "The Virgin Suicides." "There's the idea of the adolescent feminine mystique being inherently creepy," Cody said. "Two girls holding hands platonically as they cross a schoolyard -- I find that creepy."

Just girls being bad

THE CENTRAL characters in her "Jennifer's Body" script are two classmates whose friendship dates back to slumber parties: Needy and Jennifer. Jennifer is a man-eater in both the literal and figurative sense. Needy has been resolutely faithful to her BFF, but changes course when Jennifer crosses to the dark side and decides that Needy's boyfriend, Chip, would make for a tasty piece of teen jerky. "I am directly influenced by girls I have known," Cody said. "Girls who treated life as a race, and if there was someone or something they wanted, they would stab you in the back. It's a movie about hunger. A lot of teenage girls are starving themselves and a lot of them are psychologically hungry, because they are so misunderstood."

Cody wrote "Jennifer's Body" after "Juno," but before the latter film was released theatrically last December. Producer Jason Reitman, who directed "Juno," and Fox Atomic, 20th Century Fox's since-downsized genre label, joined to buy the screenplay.

"I think the script flummoxes some people," Cody said. "It's a little weird, not what you're used to." In fact, she said, she's a little "worried" about how "Jennifer's Body" might be received. " 'Juno' is a life-affirming movie," Cody said over dinner, with filming wrapped for the day. "And this is a death-affirming movie. The people who really loved 'Juno' -- I don't know if they will love this in the same way. And the people who hated 'Juno' -- well, this will just be more grist for the mill."

While the film, set in rural Minnesota not far from where Cody once lived, tweaks the conventions of the killer-on-the-loose genre, it does so in Cody's familiar pop-culture-reference-laden style. When a poser devil-worshiping rock band named Low Shoulder decides to perform a human sacrifice, they rely on plans printed out from the Internet.

"Do you know how hard it is to make it as an indie band these days?" one of the group's members, Nikolai ( Adam Brody), says as he prepares to follow the online slaying instructions. "There are so many of us and we're all so damned cute. If you don't get on 'Letterman' or some retarded soundtrack. . . . Satan is our only hope."

Kusama and Cody face an unusual challenge with "Jennifer's Body": While the film is populated with gorgeous women, they want to make sure the movie isn't lecherous. "That's something you have to grapple with when you are making a monster movie -- the girls have to look hot," said Cody, who describes herself as a radical feminist. "We didn't have to worry as much about ["Juno" star] Ellen Page's lip gloss" as how Seyfried and Fox look in this film.

"But horror is a surprisingly feminist genre," Cody said. "The last person standing is usually a woman. And most of the guys in this movie are vain and insecure. You'll notice there are no fathers in this movie. I didn't want there to be any male role models -- I didn't feel these were girls who were loved by their fathers."

memoiristDirector Kusama, who read "Jennifer's Body" before she had seen "Juno" or heard of Cody, said the script reminded her of a Grimm fairy tale. "What's really special about it is the emotional underpinning of the story, and the idea that your parents cannot protect you," Kusama said.

As she bobbed in the pool wearing a black-and-white prom dress (of course, there's a prom scene -- it's a horror movie after all), the 22-year-old Fox said she knows girls like Jennifer all too well. "I was the Jennifer of my school -- the troublemaker, the anarchist," Fox said. "She has an appetite for destruction."

It's because of people like Jennifer, Fox said, "that I don't have any girlfriends. Because they always want what every other woman has. There's no loyalty among women." Still, Fox said, her character isn't pure evil.

"I hope that people feel sorry for her," she said. "She's a victim before she's a predator."

I think I'll give it a miss. ;)

Let's hope the film is a huge flop and we never hear of the repulsive Diablo Cody again.

[hunkahunka]

A couple of interesting videos for comic relief:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plcogp1zxao
check out this one on Cher, Madonna, and Britney (notice Britney is tied up on the floor)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKSxUxBIYy0
this one had a real mk feel to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkhnS4m4NCM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiLxxkbUzIc&feature=related

[hunkahunka]

video:

The San Francisco Symphony was showing "The Wizard of Oz" and the orchestra was playing the score to the film. It was a great "happening" and I tried to catch a bit of the ambience in the decorations in the lobby of Davies Hall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfFbSmJZKz0

[brown velvet]

I see where you are going with this. What a profound insight:
that if movie studios can be used to 'construct realities' in film,
then these same facilities can just as easily be used in mind control programming, to construct false memories, terrorize, disorient.
I have heard you and others mention the use of theme parks
like Disneyworld, Universal Studios, etc. for such purposes, but
what about actual movie sets? Why not?

I think it is highly likely that these film sets are either accessed with permission or because they are being made specifically to order, to mirror the current requirements for progging, especially the alien / star wars themes. There is a whole segment about Star Trek / Star Wars progging, (Fritzmeister (http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula12chap.shtml)) I haven't reached studying it all as yet. I believe the character Data is very important, the human endearingness, the inability to 'reach' his feelings / emotions etc.... sterile, cold, white faced, mask like. As long as there is 'logic' and an inability for irony, robotic mimickry is easy and essential.

"STAR TREK, THE NEXT GENERATION
The original series of Star Trek had lost money, but in September, 1987 a new series called Star Trek, The Next Generation was started with $1 million dollars budgeted for each of its 24 episodes. The episodes pushed the Illuminati’s agenda in every show. People were being aroused to bombard Paramount with requests for a new Star Trek. Bob Justman who worked with Gene Roddenberry said, “When I left Star Trek in 1968 it was a disaster. It was a failure as far as the network was concerned.” That is because it didn’t make money. Hollywood tells us it makes these movies because they are what the public want and that they have to go where the money is--the closer truth is that Hollywood makes movies that push an agenda--Hollywood makes movies that Hollywood wants to make. And since Star Trek was part of the NWO’s mind-control, the show and it successors had to go on. How important is Star Trek? A witness has talked about Boeing workers sneaking off their jobs and hiding in the tunnels underneath the hugh Seattle Boeing plant so they could watch Star Trek shows. This enormous Boeing plant is used for rituals and mind-control.

This Boeing building is enormous, for it is where they have assembly lines to build the hugh jets, like the 747s, 707s, etc. An extensive maze of tunnels lays underneath the main building, large enough to accommodate all the tens of thousands of workers on any shift. It is interesting who was associated with the production of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Script writers for the Next Generation had a Star Trek Bible to write from. These script writers included such persons as Alan Adler, Dennis Putnam Bailey, three Grays, Debra Mclntrye, Ronald Moore, Grant Rosenberg, Randee Russell, Bryan Stewart. These are common names within the Illuminati. Coca-cola, an Illuminati-run corporation, was one of the major advertisers for Star Trek, and the god-man Dalai Lama of Tibet, who is a Star Trek fan, visited the cast of Star Trek in 1988 in Hollywood and got his picture taken with members of the cast. Probert who worked with Star Trek productions also worked with Walt Disney’s Imagineering subsidiary. Here are some of the Star Trek scenes:

(A Wizard of Oz head is shown on a show) Data is a humanoid with an on-off switch who can store vast amounts of data. His memories can be so strong that personalities in those memories fight for control of Data. (See the episode aired 1/23/89).

Holodeck creations of people (humans who are mirror images) who are aware of themselves. This is a well-used concept for programming Monarch alters. The first episode with this aired 1/1 1/88 and got several awards--an Emmy Award, and an award from the George Foster Peabody Award board." There's a whole list of the shows used if you go the the Fritzmeister link.

Most of us here have heard about Stanley Kubrick's possible (imo, likely)
involvement in faking the moon landings, using his special effects
expertise and sound stage techniques......
If the moon landings were faked, why not extend the same expertise to whatever other 'projects' one might have on the go? If you wanted to terrify a person or child with a fake
'alien abduction' scenario, who better to go to than the technical wizards who make such films as Star Wars or Raiders of the Lost ARk?
Why not use their access to actors even?

It is easy to go and visit Coronation Street, East Enders, Brookside, I really do not see much difference in the general public being invited to spend good money on a tour and people wilth power and influence being able to access any where they please.
Further down the groups, why not think about our pantomimes, our school halls, our local theatre's our larger theatres, all can be accessed. Time travel special effects doesn't always care about hi-tech stuff, when the need is to return to Ancient Greece, or go following 7 dwarfs in to a mine....



There could be a 'set' existing somewhere that is used for such things.
Specifically constructed for alien abduction simulations.
Another specifically contructed for SRA ritual programming. Say you had access to a prominent actress or other celebrity under your control, who could be 'programmed' or otherwise forced to participate? Drug the victim out of their mind, put them in this elaborate setting, and , "lights, camera, action!" Only this case, the 'camera' is the mind of the victim, recording the memories, being terrorized into developing MPD/DID.


This form of DID is known as 'polyfragmented multi-generational structured DID'
basically trying to differentiate between a 'lone' abuser terrifying a child in his / her care, (no MKUltra / MC) causing enough trauma to cause dissociation, and the structured DID with the traumas' pre-planned, multi-generational and causing far more severe dissociation.
Lone abuser could cause 10 / 50 within the System, as opposed to many many thousands in the malicious pre-meditated structured abuse / trauma. Structured = Made To Order. Bastards.




Who would believe the person or child once the memories were recovered? "I was abducted by aliens, they took me onto the space ship, and I saw '_______' (insert your favorite mk celebrity here) killing a baby, while '_________' (insert your favorite mk celebrity here) and a space alien tortured me........, and then......."

You mentioned before that maybe this type of thing was done to people like Casbolt, Cathy O'Brien, Arizona Wilder, etc., so that they would be embedded with outlandish and implausible memories.
Imagine a mixture of real murders and grotesque torture combined with mind altering drugs, elaborate sets, special effects, actors/actresses....
there would be no limits to what one could force these victims to experience as reality.

If this thread has revealed anything, it is how deeply involved Hollywood is involve in the occult and the CIA .


the more "outlandish and implausible" the childrens memories are, the better for 'the baddies' to hide and continue, after all, it has worked for years, and years, and we all followed the lies until the lies become too big, too common for them not to be eventually noticed, same stories appearing over and over again, no matter where in the world, all those children phoning each other to make sure their 'stories' match, that or it has been happening for years and the children were telling the truth, within DID, the children are still telling the truth, so many adults do not want to hear it, or are not 'versed' in understanding that picnic = ritual, village of liver and onions means the 'site' and a man was dressed like a chicken will mean voodoo. And that is retraumatising the survivor even further, to find the courage to tell and be told that they are lying. I remember reading an article about a child that said he'd been made to get in the swimming pool with sharks....no one believed him, he meant a floatable toy shark, not one adult sussed that out, until much much later, he WAS telling the truth.
Their reality is what we see as 'nightmare'. That Bowie song is the best way for us to see how they have been made to see our world.


The Hearts Filthy Lesson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKHcl_3geUM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKHcl_3geUM

The Hearts Filthy Lesson my last link led too has been removed by youtube, found it again, wonder how long it will last......?


brown.

[hunkahunka]

Did you know that Charles Manson and his LSD cult of mk teens lived on an ostensibly 'abandoned' movie set, Spahn Ranch? It was a set first used to shoot westerns in the desert, and later used to shoot biker flicks in the late 1960's.
And we are supposed to believe that the owners just let a bunch of lunatics occupy their property?

This could fit in with your theory that movie sets are used for mind control programming. Maybe this set was part of the teens programming. Is this where they were traumatized and eventually trained to kill?

http://faculty.oxy.edu/jerry/spahn12.jpg
Spahn Ranch

http://www.maebrussell.com/1960s%20Terror/Police%20Raid%20at%20Spahn%20Ranch.jpg
Police raid at Spahn Ranch
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/raid1.jpg

http://www.cielodrive.com/location/spahn/h/1.jpg
During the Tate-Labianca murder trial,' wildfires 'burnt Spahn's Movie Ranch to the ground. Since George didn't have the money to rebuild it, he sold the land, the property was divided-up three ways. Today, a local church owns a portion of the land, while other sections make up part of California's Santa Susana State Park.

http://www.cielodrive.com/location/spahn/f/1.jpg
August 16, 1969. In custody from right to left, ranch hand Juan Flynn, Straight Satan member Robert Reinhard, and Charles Manson.

[halebox]

Hey I play guitar in Dirty Sanchez
that song is just for laughs they are not satanist. :) I also know the girl below very talented nadia ginsberg. Sorry to name drop.

QUOTE=hunkahunka;519643]A couple of interesting videos for comic relief:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plcogp1zxao
check out this one on Cher, Madonna, and Britney (notice Britney is tied up on the floor)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKSxUxBIYy0
this one had a real mk feel to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkhnS4m4NCM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiLxxkbUzIc&feature=related[/quote]

[hunkahunka]

of course, it is clearly a parody. That is why I referenced it as
comic relief. Dirty Sanchez and Nadia Ginsberg are both extremely taltented, and remind me of each other.
In fact, at first I thought that both videos were put out by the same people.
(I thought it might be Nadia in the 'Italian Satanists' video, but when I checked tonight before posting, I found that they were different artists.)
Now it turns out that a member of Dirty Sanchez is enjoying this thread.
That is quite a coincidence, because in my original post I had first planned to say that I felt that the creators of these videos were of a similar mind-set to those who post in this thread. A mixture of disgust and morbid fascination is expressed, both here and in the videos.
Does Dirty Sanchez cover 'Come as You Are. btw? I thought I saw an Elvis style version of it and I recall that it could be the same singer.

[halebox]

Were the sanchez and worm vids linked together as they are pretty much best friends. Anyway back on topic. I dont think they did come as you are maybe before I jumped on board.

I will throw this in. El Duce from the band the Mentors supposedly died on train tracks after coming forward with info regarding Kurt. I know there was some train talk earlier. He was a notorious local drunk.

[soulja]

Did you know that Charles Manson and his LSD cult of mk teens lived on an ostensibly 'abandoned' movie set, Spahn Ranch? It was a set first used to shoot westerns in the desert, and later used to shoot biker flicks in the late 1960's.
And we are supposed to believe that the owners just let a bunch of lunatics occupy their property?

they would if the Manson gang were MK assets run by the CIA.
if i remember right you were the one posting about the whole CIA-hells angels-biker flicks connection/involvement, genre creation.
could easely be the ranch was owned by some Cia guy from day one.

as for the whole movie sets used in MK angle, imo this makes perfect sense.
i mean why would the programmers not use filmsets wich are perfect for a whole lot of programming scenarios if they could ? of course they do!

and given the mass of Mk themes/references/symbolism we've come across in the movie and music biz i think it's pretty safe to assume people involved in MK are involved behind the scenes.

[soulja]

Wanna Live on a Movie Set?

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0712/pinewood_1217.jpg
A computer generated image of Pinewood Studios shows the extension proposal known as "Project Pinewood"

Film sets — even the permanent ones — are by definition artifice. Sure, they look real enough from the outside, but inside, the fantasy evaporates into a maze of fake walls and uninhabitable spaces. But the make-believe reality of movie sets may soon merge with realty at Britain's iconic, 70-year-old Pinewood Studios.

As part of a planned 105-acre expansion, Pinewood Studios Group has conceived the ultimate gated community. Amid a mix of structures that would include a Roman Coliseum, a medieval, moated castle and several urban streetscapes that range from New York's Lower East Side, to Venice's canals, to suburban L.A., to a quaint European village, the studio wants to incorporate 2,000 to 2,250 actual residences. For example, the first and last buildings of the block of New York row houses would be left empty for interior shoots. But the middle ones would house real homes and apartments. "It would be no different than if you were living on a New York street and you had a filmmaker filming outside your door," explains CEO Ivan Dunleavy.

Space within the castle and other buildings would be set aside for shops, restaurants, gyms, possibly even a school. The Coliseum would double as a performing arts venue. A mock U.S. college campus would house a training center.

Why build a real community in a fake environment? "The benefits that accrue when you create these live/work clusters are pretty well proven. You can think of Silicon Valley as an example," says Dunleavy, who expects most buyers will be film industry employees, though the units would be available to anyone. Media reports set the project's cost at around $400 million, a figure Pinewood doesn't dispute but won't confirm. So another possible benefit could be to recoup costs by selling properties that almost certainly won't go cheaply. Moreover, the land in question — which Pinewood owns — is located within the greenbelt, a swath of rural land that rings London where development is usually prohibited. The addition of homes in a country battling a housing shortage could also bolster its planning application. It won't hurt Pinewood's argument, either, that the expansion will create more than 1,000 permanent jobs.

Since its creation in 1937 on the grounds of a 19th-century manor house just outside London, Pinewood has been used for some 1,500 movies — Great Expectations, Dr. Strangelove and Sweeney Todd among them. All the James Bond films, except Goldeneye, were shot here. In recent years, however, Pinewood and its nearby sister studio, Shepperton, have faced competition from low-cost Eastern European countries. Britain will never be an inexpensive place to make movies, but Pinewood hopes to remain competitive with this one-stop-shop concept, creating economies of scale by combing popular permanent sets with Britain's experienced, respected industry workforce. "It's not a pie-in-the-sky idea," says Iain Staples, an industry analyst at Clear Capital, an equity research firm, adding that the cost savings of Eastern Europe often prove illusory, because of inexperienced crews and tough filming conditions. "It can take twice as long to make a movie there."

But a one-stop-shop already exists — and it's called Hollywood. But Michael Gubbins, editor of Screen Daily, thinks the two film centers complement one another. "Only X amount of films can be made in Hollywood. And Hollywood isn't a cheap place to film, either." The British government recognizes the importance of the film industry to the economy. It recently enacted tax cuts for movies made here with a British component. The industry contributed nearly $9 billion to the British economy in 2006, according to the U.K. Film Council, an increase of 39% over 2004. But while inward investment from overseas filmmakers jumped 28% to nearly $650 million in the first half of 2007 compared to the same period in 2006, overall spending for the first six months was flat at around $900 million. The U.K. industry could also take a hit if the screenwriters' strike in the U.S. continues. Pinewood's already announced a $6 million loss of revenue for 2008 because the strike postponed filming of The Da Vinci Code sequel. The unpredictable nature of the movie business is why the studio has in recent years branched into television and commercial filming — only half its revenues now come from films. So it hopes that the planned permanent sets will appeal to TV producers, as well as to moviemakers.

Pinewood expects to start groundbreaking for the expansion within 18 to 24 months, if there are no planning-application hitches — though that's not guaranteed, given the greenbelt issue. If it remains on schedule, however, construction could be finished in three to five years. Then it'll be: Cue the real-estate agents.
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1707749,00.html

Roman Coliseum ? a medieval castle ? very usefull for time travel progging and many other scenarios.


The Alice In Wonderland programming theme is used in air-water programs and mirror programs which the Illuminati, the CIA, NASA, the Jesuits and others like so well. The idea is that there exists a mirror world which is a reversal. Along with it is attached the idea that the slave can enter into a timeless dimension of time, or as some refer to it “interdimensional time travel.” Later, the victim will be further brought under the spell of this mirror programming by going to locations around the nation, like the Magic Time Machine restaurants in San Antonio and Dallas, TX where mirrors are placed on doors, ceilings, walls, and restrooms of the establishment and programming themes are part of the everything at these restaurants. The handler may tell the slave, “LOSE YOURSELF IN THE INFINITY MIRRORS.” When hypnotically programming in programs, the Programmers place in many types of images and programs. Some examples would be having the concept of obedience equal the fountain of youth. The fountain of youth flows in the victim’s mind unless they step out side of their orders. This can be linked to the Shangri-la story, where a woman ages as soon as she leaves her place in Shangri-la.

[soulja]

another schoolshooting, this time in finland.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7630969.stm

won't take long till the first circumstantial evidence of MK will surface.
as for now, the gunman shot himself in the head. sounds to me like suicide programming kicking in after he finished the 'mission'

[soulja]

Alex Rodriguez's Wife Says Madonna Used Mind Control

Rumors have been flying that Madonna has caught NY Yankee Alex Rodriguez in her web, and why not, there are still a few years to go before it will be totally gross to bang Madonna. It is kind of like the Elvis stamp; did you bang old Madonna or young Madonna? At least there is no fat Madonna.

Alex Rodriguez's wife, Cynthia Rodriguez says Madonna is using kabbalah to brainwash her husband and she has the letters to prove it. A friend of Cynthia told the Daily News, that Rodriguez's wife told her; "I believe he was having an affair with Madonna. She said she found a letter where Alex told Madonna: 'You are my true soulmate.'"

Cynthia is currently hiding out at Lenny Kravitz's house to avoid press, but says she still loves her husband even though he has been brainwashed. She claims "Madonna is using mind control over him, I don't recognize the man he's become. He was a sweet, beautiful, loving husband and father. Today he's very cold and calculating."

After reports broke that Rodriguez was sneaking into her apartment , Madonna insisted that they were "just friends" . These rumors came after reports that Madonna was meeting with a divorce lawyer herself.

"This all started with kabbalah," said the friend. "Alex told Cynthia that he'd discovered that he'd been looking for his soul mate. And now, he said, he'd found her."
http://www.2snaps.tv/9815753

[emerald]

I remeber that in '93-'94 MADONNA had a much commented relationship with a 17 yo kid (forgot his name yet), also of Latino heritage, whose family was extremely scandalized by this fact... The boy from OPEN YOUR HEART video looks like a RODRIGUEZ in his childhood years...

[brown velvet]

Wanna Live on a Movie Set?
But the make-believe reality of movie sets may soon merge with realty at Britain's iconic, 70-year-old Pinewood Studios.


made me think of this email 'doing the rounds'....

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/done01.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/done02.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/done03.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/done04.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/done05.jpg


brown.

[brown velvet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTyks-IRFPY
the only limit is the imagination....
and a 'water patrol'
GPS systems, for easy navigation....

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/DubaiWorldIslands01.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/DubaiWorldIslands02.jpg





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eUcRjo9Yv4&feature=related

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/TheWorld-Dubai01.jpg

same kind of info, however the first part, does remind me of a brain.... and the 'three bubble' logo bottom left, what's that about?





The World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_(archipelago)) (archipelago) (oxymoron anyone?)

The World is a man-made archipelago of 300 islands constructed in the shape of a world map and located 4 kilometres (2.5 miles) off the coast of Dubai, United Arab Emirates.[1] The World is one of several artificial island projects being constructed in Dubai, others being the Palm Islands. Like the other artificial island projects, The World is built primarily using sand dredged from the sea.[1] It was developed by Nakheel Properties and was originally conceived by Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, the ruler of Dubai.

Each island in the archipelago ranges from about 14,000 m² (150,000 square feet) to 42,000 m² (450,000 square feet).[1] The distance between each island will be an average of 100 metres (328 feet).[1] The entire development covers an area of 9 km in length and 6 km in width, surrounded by an oval breakwater. Roughly 232 km (144 miles) of shoreline has been created.[1] The overall development cost of The World was estimated as 14 billion USD. As for the individual islands, prices range between 15 and 50 million USD.[1][2] One island is still for sale at a price of 250 million USD.[2]

The project was unveiled on 6 May 2003 by Sheikh Mohammed.[2] Dredging began four months later in September 2003.[2] By January 2008, 60% of the islands had been sold, 20 of which were bought in the first four months of 2007.[1][2] On 10 January 2008, the final stone on the breakwater was laid, completing initial development.[2] The next phase of the project is to hand over the individual islands to developers.[2]

Since the project's commencement, there have been many unconfirmed reports of celebrities who have purchased, or intend to purchase, islands.

In March 2006, Richard Branson appeared at a media conference on the Great Britain island. However, this was to announce direct London to Dubai flights by Virgin Atlantic, and was not related to his investing in the project.[3]

Fijian golfer Vijay Singh has been linked to the archipelago, but it is not confirmed that he has bought or intends to buy an island; he is involved with another Nakheel Properties development in Jumeirah on the Dubai mainland.[4]

On 24 October 2006 seven-time Formula 1 World Champion Michael Schumacher was presented with one of the islands by Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum on the occasion of his final Grand Prix, in Brazil. Schumacher's manager Willi Weber, suggested, "Perhaps he'll build a kart racing track on [the island]."[5]

British superstars Rod Stewart and David Beckham have also been rumoured to have bought into this project, but neither of these have been confirmed. Beckham does own a villa on the nearby Palm Jumeirah.

On 3 May 2007 Mötley Crüe drummer Tommy Lee announced that he was buying the Greece Island for Pamela Anderson, his ex-wife and the mother of their two children. Lee said he chose the island because of his own Greek heritage, and he hopes Pam, the kids and he can spend time there together.

On 15 November 2007 Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie were reported to have purchased the island Ethiopia. This has since been denied by the couple.[6]

brown.

[brown velvet]

Can't find the original hunkahunka post, took these images off it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTRg8uhhJFg).....
Those pesky 'xxx's again....:rolleyes:

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/hermaphrodite.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/DragIdol01.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/DragIdol02.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/23%2009%2008%20building%20idols/DragIdol03-1.jpg

brown.

[hunkahunka]

doesn't it tell you something that the 'Alice in Wonderland' drag queen was the one who drove the place into a frenzy:


GeNrE - Drag Idol III Winner
"This is GeNrE's first number at the Drag Idol III finals @ Wetbar in Atlanta, Georgia on December 20, 2006. This set has an "Alice in Wonderland" theme. The crowd was louder than I have ever heard after a Drag performance"

This guy not only won the contest , but the 'Alice in Wonderland' theme literally drove the crowd into a frenzy. That tells me that A LOT of the people in audience are MK. Sounds like a pretty huge crowd, too. These events must be getting bigger every year. This one was in Atlanta, Georgia, of all places.

[soulja]

another succesfull artist who gives me an MK vibe

http://www.sambroad.co.nz/images/sam-butterfly.jpg

Sam Broad, printmaker, painter and automatist has been fascinated with most things mechanical since an early age. An overwhelming theme in his recent works is the impact and interaction of technology on people.

His automata (interactive kinetic artworks that invite viewers to touch and control), paintings and prints are in collections around New Zealand and the globe. His print editions regularly sell out.

Recent themes in Broad's work include 1950s pulp sci-fi, Maoriana and New Zealand postage stamps. Broad juxtaposes these motifs in a style which the artist describes as, "future folk vs. colonial tea party".

Broad is predominantly self trained. He has been involved in running community art spaces and two galleries. He currently teaches at Vincents Art Workshop and Pablos in Wellington.

Always innovative and humorous Broad's work draws people in. The work challenges and thrills viewers.
http://www.sambroad.co.nz/about-sam.htm

[soulja]

http://www.truemodelmedia.co.uk/bbc2/racheal%203.jpg

As some of you may already know I am the Managing Director of TRUE MODEL MEDIA – Racheal Baughan

I am delighted to announce to you the publication of my Biography “The Butterfly Girl” thanks to my wonderful publishers John Blake.

My book marks the end of a painful past and has allowed me to put those chapters of my life behind me!.
I am hoping it will be useful to anyone who has experienced Eating Disorders, OCD, BDD, Agoraphobia and Mental illness alike, My main objective is to use my past experiences to provide further much needed awareness on these issues, I believe everything in life happens for a reason and by helping others with the publication of my book it makes all that I have been through worthwhile.
We all have different Goals / Dreams and we should not let anyone or anything hold us back from achieving them.

I also speak within the book about the Modelling Industry, Beauty Pageants, TRUE MODEL MEDIA, Celebrities, Press etc. Those of you who have partied or campaigned with us in the past may find your photo inside.
I wanted to illustrate the fact that people within this industry are often Misjudged.
From my experience and from what I have witnessed many who chose such professions are in fact “seeking reassurance” due to being bullied, suffering eating disorders etc, I wanted to show people that it is often the happiest people on the outside who are the sadest on the inside, there is no “stereo type” every person is different, each of us have different ways of coping and learning to live with these issues, like me we have the ability to act out the character we wish to be but that person plays a different role to who we actually are, Thankfully today I have finally become the person that I was pretending to be, I think this shows that with self belief and determination we really can achieve anything, Our life is in our hands, there is no such thing as “cant” and its up to us to take control!.

The reason that I started TRUE MODEL MEDIA back in 2004 was in the hope that I could provide healthier role models to the industry as it genuinely scares me to think of what would happen to anyone suffering from mental health issues in this day and age, or anyone who is trying to live up to the current “Media Ideal”, when I was unwell it was not about anything but me and the BDD, I had an unrealistic expectation of perfection with myself, but I know that those who do take notice of the current trends are in much danger, so to me the Agency was my way of trying to make a difference!
Since opening TRUE we have grown more than I ever could have hoped for with our studios “Official Opening” coming soon.

I would like to thank you all of our Models and clients for their continued support, we are extremely proud to represent such a wonderful team, We hope that you are equally proud to be part of our agency and our S.O.S (Stop 0 Size) campaign.

I hope that my book will help provide much needed help and awareness on mental health issues.
When I was unwell there was no help out there for me so I had no choice but to take matters into my own hands, Even today there is still a huge lack of understanding, so I feel that this book will help give an insight into my true story, and those who read it may be able to follow me on my journey to a brighter future, I am also hoping it may help those around a suffer have a better understanding on how to cope, in addition to further educate the Medical world.
Always remember to believe in yourself, treat others as you wish to be treated, and perhaps most Importantly never judge a book by its cover!.
http://www.thebutterflygirlrachealbaughan.co.uk/

[sade]

soulja, you think her bdd and eating disorder was because of mind control?
Or you just got interested in the title of her book?

[soulja]

soulja, you think her bdd and eating disorder was because of mind control?
Or you just got interested in the title of her book?

yea i think there's a good chance that's the case. Bdd, Depression, eating and other disorders are often accompanying symptoms with Mk victims.
add to that her position, social environment and the book title.

even the fact that she wears orange on her bookcover might be significant.

[sade]

soulja, thanks for responding!

BDD is such an 'interesting' mental disorder, since it is similar to anorexia in the way that the problem is usually imagined. Even though both disoders are similar, they are still very different. A person with BDD can't control themselves, but anorexics are in complete control over what they eat and etc...

[brown velvet]

soulja, thanks for responding!

BDD is such an 'interesting' mental disorder, since it is similar to anorexia in the way that the problem is usually imagined. Even though both disoders are similar, they are still very different. A person with BDD can't control themselves, but anorexics are in complete control over what they eat and etc...

Hiya :D

I would like to point out that it is a most unusual anorexic who is in control of what s/he eats. From their perspective this statement may wll be true, however from the point of view of the person helping to address the problems, the Anorexic client is so out of control of their eating it is saddening, they can make it 'appear' to all as if there is control, the one thing they have no control over (when entrenched in their ED) is to lift the spoon to their mouth and eat and keep food.
That is not the 'apparent' control I think you may be alluding too....


brown. :)

[hunkahunka]

noticed this poster of another Joel Schumacher film:

http://coletti.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/lost_boys.jpg
look at the lower case letters in the words 'Lost Boys' only

it then reads: The OTO

[hunkahunka]

I am cross-indexing this response from a mirror thread that I have
going on another forum (this information is so important that I am
posting it to two other forums, and having it deleted from still two more on top of that. I am able to cross-post only a portion of this thread , unfortunately, due to the huge volume of info showing up regularly in this thread. I wish I could put this all over the internet to reach as many people as possible, but there are limits to how much time I can put into this)

this is from another forum, followed by my response to it (decided to bring it here because I think it is important) :
Paleo wrote:
I'm sort of confused by all of this. I mean, The Cobain/Burroughs connection was extremely interesting and helpful, although I have to admit that I'd known a great deal about it already, being the Nirvana was my favorite music group when I was younger and Burroughs my favorite author, even now. But this MKUltra/Monarch mind control program has me confused a bit... is the insinuation that the Wizard of Oz and the other films/mediums used for mind control in children are to turn them into homosexuals?!? What would the reason be for that?! .


It's hard to say, with exact certainty, what it is all about. It is an extremely complex topic. According to experts on mk programming like Fritz Springmeir,
a big part of rainbow programming is gender/sex dissociation. The mk research found that subjecting children to gender dissociative sexual abuse from infancy/early age made them much more susceptible to mk programming later in life. The whole idea is to prevent the child from ever developing a solid sense of 'self' or indentity, and a big part of developing one's identity is in identifying with one's gender and developing self-identity through exposure to role models. Hence, the evidence that a lot of non-bloodline mk victims (infants) are intentionally raised in confusing and dehumanizing environments such as orphanages, adoptive and dysfunctional homes, single parent drug addict families, hippy cults, etc. The baby is deliberately prevented from exposure to the concept of 'mom-dad', 'male-female', 'brother-sister', 'mother-son', etc. Often the baby is raised by the grandparents and is told that its mother is its sister,
or raised by cross-dressing parents, or a single homosexual parent, or an orphanage or hippy commune, while being horribly mentally and sexually abused. Often a boy will be given a girl's name, or vice versa, or several names. For example, they never want a female child to reach the point of being able to say "That is my mother. She is female. I am a little girl.
My name is _____. That is my father. He is male." etc. They don't want the kid piecing things together on even that basic a level early on its life, because information like that becomes a barrier to the programming later on. The more confused the person can be kept about who or even 'what' he/she is, the better.

Films like 'Wizard of Oz' or 'Alice in Wonderland' are used during the trauma-based programming, so they often have a lasting impact on the child throughout its life.
It appears that a huge proportion of mk 'rainbow' victims grow up to be homosexual or transexual, or to at least have sexually dissociative 'alters'. My guess is that this is a by-product of the process required to produce DID/MPD in large numbers of people.

I can only guess at why the films are continually used to reinforce the programming. My guess is that the intelligence community 'controllers' or handlers of these 'projects' find that it is a lot easier to maintain control of these people if they are kept in the same gender dissociative 'culture'
throughout their lives.

[hunkahunka]

In light of the theory that mk slaves often have sexually dissociative alters,
it brings to mind the phrase 'alternative lifestyle' or 'alternative rock'.

Do they 'alternate' between identities, and sometimes go to this dissociative 'alternate life' identity and try to stay there? Could it be that these people are opting to live life in one or another 'alter'?

http://www.hotmoviesale.com/dvds/36157/1/Essential-Music-Videos-Alternative-Rock.jpg

http://4.music.bigpond-images.com/images/AlbumCoverArt/176/XXL/Alternative-Rock-X-Mas.jpg

http://www.boingboing.net/200708102023.jpg

this reminds me of a guy like pastorTed Haggard, who was a conservative Republican evangelical pastor and a homosexual all at the same time.

[soulja]

noticed this poster of another Joel Schumacher film:

look at the lower case letters in the words 'Lost Boys' only

it then reads: The OTO

great stuff hunka, very perceptive..

and good on you for spreading the info to other boards ;)

[soulja]

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000LRY9WM.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V49585575_.jpg


Patrick Wolf (born Patrick Denis Apps on June 30, 1983) is an English singer-songwriter from South London. Wolf plays many instruments including harp, clavinet, harpsichord, guitar, piano, autoharp, kantele, organ, mountain dulcimer, clavichord, harmonium, accordion, theremin, ukulele, viola and violin.

http://partyends.com/peblog/wolf01.jpg


Biography

Patrick Wolf was born at St Thomas' Hospital in London.[1] Born into a creative household, Wolf started his musical education with violin lessons and church choirs. He made his first theremin at age eleven, and first began recording songs with his violin, voice, and car boot sale organs on a four-track tape recorder at age twelve. At fourteen, he joined and performed with pop art collective Minty. Two years later, he left home. During this period, Wolf earned money from busking in a string quartet and formed a group called Maison Crimineaux, a noisy trio built on destructive ethics around white noise and pop music. He also continued to write and record his own material. A Maison Crimineaux gig in Paris was attended by electronic maestro Kristian Robinson (aka Capitol K), who would then go on to release Wolf's debut album Lycanthropy.

Wolf's ongoing writing and recordings brought him to the attention of Fat Cat Records, who provided him with an Atari computer and a mixing console. During the recording of Lycanthropy, Wolf studied composition at Trinity College of Music for one year. Lycanthropy was released in the summer of 2003. He also made some guest appearances as a viola player with Chicks on Speed and The Hidden Cameras. The German-based record label Tomlab later released the album for America and Europe. His second album of 2005, Wind in the Wires, was released on the same label and likewise met with critical acclaim.

Following the success of Wind in the Wires, Wolf signed a record deal with Loog in late 2005 and began recording his third album, The Magic Position, which featured collaborations with Marianne Faithfull and Edward Larrikin of Larrikin Love.[2] The album leaked onto file-sharing networks in its entirety on January 3, 2007 before its official release on February 26. "The Magic Position" was released in the U.S. on Low Altitude Records on May 1, 2007. Wolf has promoted the album with a concert tour in North America, Europe, Japan and Australia. He has stated that he already has enough material for a follow-up album, and has been previewing some of it in his live shows.

In January 2007, the first of six vodcasts was made available on iTunes. This series of vodcasts includes live performances of old and new material and interviews with Gill Mills. These can currently also be downloaded from the iCast website.

On February 27, 2007, in an interview with thelondonpaper, Wolf raised many questions about his sexuality: “In the same way I don’t know if my sixth album is going to be a death-metal record or children’s pop, I don’t know whether I’m destined to live my life with a horse, a woman or a man. It makes life easier.”[3] In a July 5, 2007 interview with the Sydney Star Observer, he confirmed his sexuality: "My sexuality is kind of liberal. I fall in love with men and women. I guess you would call me bisexual. I like to have sex and fall in love—I don't like giving terminology for my sexuality."

http://www.resonatormag.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/1534312842_l.jpg
again the carousel in the back, this time he's positioned in a way so he stands under the umbrella.

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music/glastonbury2007_39.jpg
last years glastonbury festival, Wolf performed on stage dressed up as Pan.

http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/res/877.$plit/C_71_article_1025961_image_list_image_list_item_0_ image.jpg
this one's also interesting not just because of the black and white kite (square).

some of his songtitles:

- To the Lighthouse
- Pigeon Song
- The Childcatcher
- Peter Pan
- Jacob's Ladder

[soulja]

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/ProjectButterfly/img/project_butterfly_logo_08.gif

Teenagers living in coastal communities near Yarmouth are to be given a much-needed new youth venue, thanks to the EDP’s Project Butterfly contest.

The youngsters, aged between 13 and 19, from Hemsby, Winterton, Thurne and Ormesby, set up the Hazy Daiz Youth Project with the help of their safer neighbourhoods policing team. The aim is to create their own safe environment to provide a place to meet without being accused of anti-social behaviour.

Now they have beaten off stiff competition to win Project Butterfly, organised by the EDP, Norfolk police and Virgin Money. They will receive materials and labour to the value of £10,000 to help make their dream a reality.

Also in the shortlist were Stalham Community Woodland Project; a scheme to build a butterfly garden at Badersfield, the former RAF Coltishall site and a woodland project at West Earlham Infant School.

Mark Llewelyn, community development worker at Community Connections which backs the project, welcomed the news. He said: “Community Connections are very happy that Hazy Daiz now have the opportunity to make a big difference in their lives and other young people in Hemsby and the surrounding area.”

Hazy Daiz will base their youth club in an outbuilding of the Congregational Church in Hemsby. Winning Project Butterfly will allow
the group to carry out the necessary improvements to the building and furnish it.

Project Butterfly aims to support ideas which will improve neighbourhood conditions or provide activities for youngsters. The aim is to improve the quality of life for all ages and groups, ideally allowing all sections of the community to help one another.
http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/ProjectButterfly/default.aspx

[hunkahunka]

Brown, what do you make of this?

this is a blog about 'card swaps' , and one called the
'alternative Alice card swap' and
http://flickr.com/photos/20023020@N00/2713933340/
http://malinmaskros.blogg.se/

it appears to be associated with the Artist Trading Cards for All site here:

http://atcsforall.com/about.php

again we see the motif of Alice in Wonderland, Oz, artists, carousels, goth, vapirism, dismemberment and collage art all mixed up together here.

http://malinmaskros.blogg.se/images/2008/2795774046_8caf3fdb96_15795823.jpg

http://malinmaskros.blogg.se/images/2008/2847552497_c106df9305_16911749.jpg

http://malinmaskros.blogg.se/images/2008/s6300887_16304200.jpg

http://malinmaskros.blogg.se/images/2008/s6300932_17180295.jpg

http://malinmaskros.blogg.se/images/2008/s6300937_17385059.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://bp0.blogger.com/_T7BhcH-_Lqw/Rj5wh2KdqXI/AAAAAAAAAKo/t3NT8OTndy8/s400/Gay+Purr-ee+Cover.jpg

the whole movie is here:

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?hl=en&q=gay%20purree&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi1qIhUuKQ8

[soulja]

http://malinmaskros.blogg.se/images/2008/s6300937_17385059.jpg
imo the picture is telling us about ''dark alters'' hidden behind the front personality - they don't know why they have such thoughts/phantasies.
on one level they will be shocked while on another they will feel strangely drawn to it, dwelving further into it. it is after all part of their personality albeit an artificial created one.

just a normal day of alter merging/infighting in the life of a Monarch.

[soulja]

some more from Svali


The European Roots of the Illuminati
© Svali

Until recently, I have mainly written about programming and methods to work through and attempt to resolve it. But as I am working on my own healing, I am coming to realize that while breaking programming is important (and often life-saving), that eventually it becomes important to deal with core issues. Core issues go beneath and behind programming, and often not only drive it, but sabotage the therapy process as the survivor attempts to heal.

These issues will be different for each survivor, since we each have a unique history. I have received emails from survivors from around the world, and have found that: *The Illuminati is certainly not the only occult group in the world; there are many other well-organized groups that do methodic, repetitive abuse of an occult nature. But in these groups, often the core issues are different than for the Illuminati *Even within the Illuminati, each individual will need to discover their own personal history, since parentage, bloodlines, and programming methods will differ, as well as the child's eventual role in the group. This article is not meant to address all methods, or all survivor's histories in the group.

I can't speak for everyone who was abused in the group; I can only speak of what I myself am discovering about my own personal history, in the hopes that it will help other survivors through either validation, or to help supporters better understand some of the issues that they face during the process of remembering and healing.

The Illuminati are based in Europe, which is where their power base has always been. I remember being told as a young child that America was basically considered their "mission field" or the "land of opportunity" by those whose roots extend for hundreds of years or more into the ancient European dynastic bloodlines.

This is why their power hierarchy around the world, whether in the U.S., Asia, Australia, Canada, or elsewhere will always point back to Europe, where the 13 rulers (they also call them "lords") are based. Each ruler represents an area of Europe held under his sway; and each one represents an ancient dynastic bloodline.

For example, the Hapsburg bloodline (Merovingian) is still active in Europe, although hidden, as well as the Rothschild and Battenberg bloodlines . In many modern European countries, the heirs of these bloodlines are immensely wealthy, and secretly are the "power behind the throne", if not the actual rulers.

This is one reason why those of high Illuminati rank/descent in the U.S., for example, can always trace their bloodline or parentage to members of this ruling cabal in Europe; members of leadership councils in the States are always direct descendants, whether legitimate or illegitimate.

Whether at the lowest levels, or the highest, though, this group operates with the same methods: instilling intense fear and terror to control their members. Often this is done through the fear of death, and at the core level, the person who has undergone their training will have an immense fear of dying because of the "death and resurrection" experiences, or near death experiences, that they have undergone.

During these experiences, the very young child or even infant core will be faced with intolerable choices: to allow themselves to be extinguished, or to embrace the demonic and the beliefs of those in their bloodline parentage. I believe this is dissociation at its deepest level, since the desire to survive is one of the deepest instincts that God has given us, and will override intellect, cognition, and even well-thought out beliefs in an adult-much less in a very young child. When faced with certain death and terror, or life, albeit at a price that is much too high, the infant or child almost always chooses life (I have never heard of one that hasn't to date, although my own knowledge and experience are limited).

Then the one who offers life to the infant becomes their "savior", and worshipped virtually as a deity in the child's mind and heart for "saving" them in one of the most wicked set ups imaginable.

In many cases, this is one of the child's parents, and most often, their biological father. The biological father may not be the person that the child consciously remembers raising them during childhood; and once again, this encourages deep dissociation: the consciously remembered "Daddy" may not be the survivor's real father.

Identity confusion is also layered in. The name the child goes by during the daytime may be quite different from their "real" name, or even the name on their birth certificate. A child of high lineage may discover that they weren't born in the United States, but in Europe, if the ties to the European bloodlines are great enough; or even that their American birth certificate was forged, to cover their European one.

Each situation is different, and different bloodlines practice different methods of raising, mentoring, and training their offspring. For instance, those of German descent may be taken to Germany, and spend time with those of this bloodline learning the ways of this country, and developing a loyalty to what they consider their "true homeland", before going back to another country to live under a different identity. Because above all else, children are called back to their European roots at frequent intervals to develop loyalty to their family home and name, and to undergo ceremonies meant to instill terror and ongoing cooperation, alternated with loving bonding experiences meant to instill deep love for the parental figures.

A child may live in Japan, but they will always know that their true home is in Germany or France; the child in Canada may know that their true home is the U.K., or Russia, and the child in the U.S. will long to return to "home" in Europe with the loyalty that is instilled, whether "home" is Germany, Bavaria, France, Moscow, the UK, Spain, or another country ruled by one of the 13.

This terror, this training, and the bonds of not only loyalty, but caring and nurturing that the child experienced through their true parentage, are often the most difficult and insidious to break. Deep terror combined with loving rescue and nurture create deep loyalty through trauma bonding, and breaking these ties at the core level is the most difficult task that many survivors face.
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ritual_abuse/95608/1


A Day in the Life of a Trainer
© Svali

*Trigger warning: This article contains graphic descriptions of cult activity. Please do not read it if you are triggered by reading these things.

A lot of people have written and asked questions such as, “When did you go to meetings?” or “What about your children when you were in the group?”, and even “How did you divide the cult activity from your normal life?”

This article is an attempt to answer these questions and to better promote understanding of how dissociation works in the person who is cult active. This “day” is based on over 12 years of therapy, and is a collage based on several different memories of what life was like roughly seven years ago when I was still active in the San Diego group. Hopefully it will help those who are support people and therapists understand better how severe the amnesia is between cult activities and daily life, and will explain how a member of an abusive and occult cult can be a kind Christian person in their day life.

7:00 a.m. I wake up tired, as always. It seems as if tiredness dogs my steps even when I go to sleep early. I wake to the buzzing of the alarm clock, and get up. I am already dressed, because over the past two years my husband and I have started going to bed with our clothes on. We laugh and say it saves time dressing in the morning. I am in the uniform of every American housewife: baggy sweat pants and matching top, and tennis shoes with foam soles. I change into a nicer outfit for work.

I get my two children up and prepare breakfast, which is simple: cereal and toast. Afterwards they prepare for school, and I drive them to the small Christian school that they attend. I am the teacher for first grade there; my daughter is in fifth grade. I have a nagging headache that I ignore as we arrive at the school.

8:45 a. m. School starts. I teach first, second, and third grade at a multigrade Christian school that my children attend. Before this, I had home schooled my children for several years. I was asked to substitute at this school when one of the regular teachers left, and soon was asked to teach fulltime. I enjoy teaching and I multitask well; I go from first grade to second to third, giving each activities to do. I have lesson plans set up for the whole semester.

I am considered a kind and patient teacher; the kids like me and I like them, although I wish the headaches would go away. Sometimes by the end of the day, they are intense.

3:30 School is out. My daughter has invited a friend home to play, so I remind them all to buckle up for the drive home. I am tired, but I also realize that it’s important that my children have an opportunity to reach out. I worry sometimes at their tendency to withdraw, and encourage them to have friends over. We practice riding our horse in the penned field in our back yard. My son comments, “Gee, Mom, you’re a lot nicer to me at home than when you’re my teacher,” and I laugh and say, “That’s because I don’t want to play favorites at school.”

5:30 I drive the friend home. Dinner is in the oven.

At this point, my day has been exactly that of any other person who is not DID or in a cult group. This is because my presenters, or day people, have been out. They are kind, caring, Christian, and completely unaware that there is another life that I live. If you stopped me at this point and asked, “Are you involved in any activities at night?” I would have absolutely no idea of what you were talking about. I was created specifically to look, act, and be normal in every way during the day. You could follow me around all day to this point, and there would be absolutely no indication that I lead another life at times. The only hint is the headaches, and occasional bouts of unexplained depression that I can’t seem to shake. I have had both all of my life.

6:30 My husband comes home and we all eat dinner. He and I have a good friendship, although we are distant in some ways: he lives his life and I live mine. We rarely argue or even disagree openly. I help the children with homework while he works on a business plan for a client.

7:45 A call comes, and when I pick up the phone, someone says, “Is Samantha there?” This is one of my code names, and I immediately switch. “Call back in a little,” I tell them. “Fifteen minutes,” the voice says. I send the kids upstairs to take their baths. 8:00 The call comes again. “Samantha?” I instantly change. My voice goes flat, and I reply in a wooden voice. “Yes, what is it?”

“Remember to bring the items we discussed tonight,” I am told. I then recite a key code to this person, who is the head trainer, that ensures that I will remember his message. I hang up after he does.

8:30 I read my children a bed time story. They are very, very afraid of the dark even at six and ten years of age, and insist that a light stays on in their room all night. As the evening progresses, they become more and more anxious. “Mom, I’m afraid,” my daughter tells me. “Of what?” I ask. “I don’t know,” she answers. She says this a lot, and I worry about my overly sensitive and anxious young daughter. Deep inside, I feel that these fears aren’t normal, and that there is something wrong, but I don’t know why. My husband tells me I worry too much, and that our daughter picks it up from me. I stay with both children until they fall asleep. This is our nightly routine, and I feel it is the least I can give them.

9:30 I get ready to go to bed. I have to get ten to twelve hours of sleep a night, or I am completely exhausted. Many times, I fall asleep reading to my two children. Just before falling asleep, I say to my husband, “Remember” and give him the code that lets us know we have to wake up later. He replies in German that he remembers.

1:00 am. My husband wakes me up. He and I take turns being the one to wake up the others. We don’t need an alarm, because our internal body clocks wake us up. I am in my sweats, I fell asleep dressed to make it easier when I rise in the middle of the night. I am finally me, I can come out now and see the outside world, not locked inside as I am during the day. “Get the kids,” he says in a low tone. I go upstairs and tell them, “Get ready, now.” They are up instantly, completely obedient which is very different from during the day. Quickly, silently they put their shoes on and I take them down to the car.

My husband drives, I am in the passenger seat. He drives with the headlights off until we are on the road so we won’t wake our neighbors up. We live in the country on a dirt lane and there are few houses to worry about.

My job is to keep alert, looking for anyone following us, to alert him if anyone is coming.

Once we are down the road and turn onto the paved road, he turns the headlights on and we go to the meeting. “I didn’t finish my homework,” my son says. My husband and I turn briefly to him, enraged. “We don’t talk about day at night, EVER!” we remind him.” Do you want to be beaten?” He looks hurt, then the rest of the drive is in silence, the children looking out the windows of the car as we glide silently to our destination.

1:20 am We are at the first checkpoint at the military base. We drove in the back entrance and are waved through, the lookouts recognize our car and our license plates. They would stop anyone who wasn’t familiar or authorized to be there. We will pass two more checkpoints before coming to the meeting area. It is at a large field on a major marine base that includes hundreds of acres. Small tents are erected, and temporary bases set up for the night’s exercises. We come either here, or to one of three different meeting places, three times a week.

People are chatting and drinking coffee. There are a lot of friendships here, because everyone is working towards the same goal. The work is intense and the friendships are just as intense. I join a group of trainers, who I know well. “Looks like Chrysa is missing,” I say. “I bet the lazy b--- couldn’t get out of bed.” I am very different at night. I use words that would horrify me during the day, and I am very catty and mean. The others laugh. “She was late two weeks ago, too,” says another. “Maybe we will need to REPORT her.” He is joking, but partly serious. No one is allowed to be late, or sick. Or too early, either. There is a ten minute window of time when all members are supposed to report to meetings. If not, then they are punished if there isn’t a good excuse. High fevers, surgery, or an auto accident are considered excuses. PMS, fatigue, or the car not working aren’t.

We drink coffee to stay awake, since even our dissociated state doesn’t stop the body’s protest at being awake in the middle of the night after a full day’s activities. I go to the tent to change into my uniform. We all wear uniforms at night, and we all have ranks too, based on how high we are in the group and how well we do.

1:45 am We start going to our assigned tasks. I have brought the log books with me, the “item” that I was asked to remember. I keep them hidden in a closet at home, locked in a steel box. These books contain data about different “subjects” that we have been working on.

I go to the head trainer’s room inside a nearby building. I work with him, since I am the second trainer under him. He and I despise each other, and I suspect he would love to undermine me since I have made many cruel jokes at his expense. I am supposed to be afraid of him, and I am, but I also cannot respect him, and he knows it. I point out his mistakes to him, in front of others, and he often tries to get back at me.

1:50 am The room inside the warehouse-like building is set up to work on the subjects. It has a table, a light, and equipment. The room is apart from the activities going on outside, so that others will not be distracted by what we do here.

The subject is there, ready to be worked on. Another, younger trainer is there to help, and I tell her to administer the medication. We are working on medications to help induce hypnotic states, and are studying the effects of these medications, combined with hypnosis and trauma. The medication is injected subcutaneously, and then we wait. Within ten minutes, the subject is drowsy and his breathing is slower and heavier, but his eyes are open which is what we want. (I will not describe the rest of the session here, it is too painful for me to describe at this time. I believe that human experimentation is cruel and should be stopped, but the group that I was in did it on a continuous basis). We record information in the logbook throughout the session, and I have a laptop computer into which I am putting the information as well. We are profiling not just the medication, but also this person’s individual response. We have profiles that are very complete and thorough on this person, started when he was an infant. I can pull up a special profile that tells me everything about him: his favorite colors, foods, sexual preferences, soothing techniques, and a list of all the codes that will elicit a response from him. There is also a diagram of his internal world that has been created over the years.

This subject is easy to work with and things go quickly. I correct the young trainer at one point, when she starts to do something too soon. “You have to learn patience,” I chide her in German. At night, we all talk German, it and English are the two ligua francas in this group. “I’m sorry, I thought it was time,” she says. I then teach her the signs to look for when the subject is ready. This is why I am a head trainer. I train the younger ones, because after years and years, I know human anatomy, physiology, and psychology inside out. Luckily, I caught this young trainer before she made the mistake; if she had made one, I would have had to punish her.

At night, mistakes aren’t accepted, ever. Once a child is two or three, they are expected to perform correctly, or they are brutalized. This continues into adulthood.

2: 35 The session is almost over and the subject is recovering. The medication is quick acting and he will recover in time to drive home. I leave him in the care of the younger trainer and go to the coffee room to take a break. There I smoke a cigarette and having coffee with the other trainers. During the day, I have never smoked and coffee makes me ill, but here, at night, it is completely different.

“How’s your night going?” Jamie, a friend, asks. I only know her as Jamie, it isn’t her real name, but we all go by our nicknames at night. She is also one of the teachers at the school during the day, but we aren’t friends there. “Slow. I had to correct another stupid kid,” I say. I am not kind at night, because no one has ever been kind to me. It is a very dog- eat-dog and political atmosphere where the cruel win.

“How about you?” I ask. She grimaces. “I had to march some brats around”, she says, referring to military exercises with children ages 8 to 10. Every night there are military exercises, because the group is preparing for the eventual takeover. The children are divided into groups by age, and different adults take turns teaching. We chat for a few minutes, and then go back to our “jobs”.

2: 45 This is a short session. It is a “tune up” for a member who is one of the military leaders. I take his profile out and review it before starting. The head trainer and one other trainer are working with me.

The hypnotic induction goes quickly, and he remembers his programming. It is reinforced with shock, and we check through all parameters. They are all active and in place. I sigh with relief. This was an easy one, and he doesn’t fight us. Afterwards, I am soothing and kind. “You did well, “ I tell him. Inside a little trickle in my stomach revolts at the use of brutality to teach. He nods, still slightly dazed from the session. “You can be proud of yourself,” I tell him, and pat his hand. He is given his reward afterwards, and spends time with a child. He is a pedophile and this is how he is comforted after his session.

3:30 We have changed out of our uniforms, which are placed in a special hamper to be cleaned. My clothes, which were neatly folded on a shelf are back on, and we are all in the car on the way home. My daughter speaks. “I get promoted next week,” she says, her voice proud. “They said I did really well in the exercises tonight.”

She knows that I and the other adults will be at the ceremony to honor the promotions. “I’m glad,” I tell her. I am weary for some reason. Usually, I would be glad, but tonight, although it was a routine night, was hard. I have been feeling little cold trickles inside me lately, twinges of terror. Sometimes, I hear a child inside, deep inside, screaming, and I sweat as I work on children or adults. And I wonder how long I can keep doing this. I have heard of trainers who broke down or couldn’t do their job, and I also heard whispered stories of what happened to them. It was the essence of nightmares, and I shove down my own anxiety.

4:00 am We are home and collapse into bed, instantly asleep. The children fell asleep before we got home, and my husband and I carried them to bed. We all sleep dreamlessly and deeply.

7:00 am I wake up to the alarm, tired. It seems I am always tired, and this morning I have a slight headache. I hurry to get the kids up and get ready to teach another day. I wonder if there is something wrong with me, since I seem to need more and more sleep and still wake up tired. I have no idea that the night before, I was up and living my other life.

It may seem unbelievable to some readers that a person can live another life and have absolutely no idea, but this is the nature of amnesia. If programming is done correctly, it is almost undetectable and the person will be completely amnesic to their other activities. This is called dissociation, and it is present in most members of abusive, generational cult groups such the one I describe.

[soulja]

Easter in the Cult
© Svali


There are certain times of the year that are particularly difficult for survivors of generational occult. These are “holiday dates” that correspond to rituals celebrated by occult groups. While the actual rites and practices may vary somewhat from group to group, there are certain similarities among many.

Easter is one such time. In the group that I grew up in, during the daytime I was allowed a normal experience. Easter was a celebration of springtime, of lengthening days, and the new flowers signaling winter’s end. I often enjoyed playing with waving palm branches during Palm Sunday, and hunting for Easter eggs on the church grounds. And of course, every year a small Easter basket appeared with a chocolate rabbit or lamb.

But at night, the holiday time was celebrated in a very different manner. The preparation leading up to it often lasted during the week before (there was no school during Easter week when I was a child, in the years before “Spring break” became common. Most schools let out for a week to ten days during this week). The events of this time were quite painful, and including brutalization, sexual abuse and other rituals surrounding fertility rites, culminating at the end of the week with a mock crucifixion. Often a child would be chosen to undergo crucifixion in a grim mockery of the Christian celebration, and the adults would state that this ritual was an offering to debase the Christian tradition and show its lack of meaning.

I do know that young boys were chosen for this ritual, and it was horrible to see.

At times, a mock “resurrection” ceremony might occur, but the resurrector was not Jesus, but a demonic entity who would enter into the person brought to a near death state.

The spiritual roots of these ceremonies were created to allow the passage of the demonic into the participants, and to “seal” them as they participated in the ceremony. At times, a golden chalice was passed between participants, and the child’s blood filled the cup that participants drank.

I am finding in my healing that more and more of what was done to me involved dark occult ceremonies as a child, such as I describe here. These ceremonies allowed the entrance of the demonic, and one of the hardest parts of the group programming to break has been the hold that these memories, and the spiritual destruction that ensued, has had on me. Part of my own healing process is involving undergoing deliverance, and replacing the gruesome, negative spirituality of my childhood with a faith that includes love, mercy, and forgiveness, the antithesis of the harsh and punishing ceremonies that I saw. One of the most important tasks for the survivor when remembering these types of events, (and anniversary dates often bring memories) is to find healing and self-forgiveness for participating, and to reach out for a belief system that can replace the negative. For me, that belief is Christianity, and my hope is that others will know its comfort during this difficult time of year.

It can also help to realize that so often the group makes certain things sound final. “You are sealed for life”, they tell the children, or “You agreed to this, and now you are one of us forever.” This is nonsense. No contract is binding forever, especially one created under coercion, and once a person has free choice, they can choose to break childhood spiritual contracts made under duress. The group during holidays and ritual events tries to inculcate helplessness and a feeling that “Now I can never leave”, but this message is absolutely false and plays on a small child’s fears. Instead, as an adult, the survivor has choices, and can choose to break those covenants and enter into freedom.

This is a battle, and I don't want to make it sound as if it is easy. It isn't, and I am still battling this is my own life, but it is well worth breaking free of the hold that these ceremonies and demonic entanglements have in the life of the survivor.



Christmas in the Cult
© Svali

Christmas is a time when people think warmly of family gathered around the Christmas tree, sharing laughter as presents are opened and sleepy-eyed children excited see what Santa has brought. Adults share egg nog and cheer, and happy traditions are followed.

But for the child raised in a generational satanic cult, Christmas has a very different meaning. In the daytime, the normal activities of shopping for presents and going to parties occurs, and the family may have a large “warm” gathering of its members in the day.

But at night, things are quite different. The child who in the daytime looks forward to Santa and presents under the day, quakes with terror at the thought of what will come at night.

The winter solstice occurs on December 21, and this is one of the highest pagan/celtic holidays, since the “New Year” begins after this date for the cult. Special ceremonies are planned to ensure the coming of a new year filled with power, and the return of the sun’s lengthening days (many occult ceremonies are also based on ancient sun deity worship). Added to this is the Christian holiday in celebration of Christ’s birth, which the occult group despises, and special ceremonies are planned to desecrate and twist the meaning of this day. For many families in the occult, the whole week from December 21 to December 26 is filled with activities, since family members are naturally gathered together, and there is no need to explain missed days from school for the children.

The cruelty surrounding Christmas and the solstice is intense. Children are often abused by cult members dressed as Santa; or a mocking of the nativity occurs with the end result that “Herod” succeeds in slaying the baby Jesus (with ritual murder of an infant occurring). The child may be sexually abused under a Christmas tree, and paraphernalia of the holiday are given a new and dark meaning.

Instead of a celebration of birth, Christmas for the child raised in a cult family becomes a time of horror and death. Programming may occur, with images associated with the holiday implanted, and the child told that seeing these images (such as a lighted Christmas tree, or nativity scene) will mean contact with “family” or other messages placed in under trauma.

Children (and adults) may receive presents with hidden meanings that remind them of Christmas past and the trauma that is meant to bind them to “family”.

A mock “holiday feast” may occur, but instead of egg nog and ham, the meal is gruesome.

These are just a few of the associations that occur in the dissociated alters of the child raised in a cult family, and why many survivors feel a mixture of anticipation and fear when the holidays come around. Added to this, once the child grows up, intense efforts by cult family members to recontact will occur during these holiday times at which all family members are expected to be present.

Panic and anxiety can occur for the adult survivor on these anniversary dates of intense trauma and rituals, and they may wonder why a holiday that is associated with good cheer for them means the desire to hide and cower.

It can help if the survivor learns for themselves where the panic is coming from, and which triggers were placed in. This usually will occur in therapy, or from journaling.

If a survivor has stopped contact with family members, then receives a flood of Christmas cards or gifts, they should be cautious, and aware that these items could be intensely triggering. A desire to “call and recontact” family members will often be awakened as a result, and the survivor will need to work through this in therapy.

Child alters often hold the most horrific memories, and listening to them, allowing them to process their trauma and fears in therapy, journaling, and art work can also help.

Creating new holiday traditions that feel safe can also help. Some survivors celebrate Christmas by doing things very differently than their family of origin to help reinforce that they are able to break free of all the traditions that their family held. And having outside support and safety help most of all during this time.

Christmas is an especially difficult time for many survivors. But as adults, survivors can choose to break free from the traumatic meanings it once held, and to create a safe Christmas for themselves.

from the easter article:
At times, a golden chalice was passed between participants, and the child’s blood filled the cup that participants drank.

reminded me at the art from Vanessa Valore (the first piece)
Vanessa Valore
http://studioscreenings.com/galleries/Vanessa-Valore/great_escape.sized.jpg
great escape
http://studioscreenings.com/galleries/Vanessa-Valore/butterfly_shield.sized.jpg
butterfly shield
http://studioscreenings.com/gallery/Vanessa-Valore

[turquoisefire777]

i put up these lyrics on my lyrics thread, then today i remembered something:

http://media.portland.indymedia.org/images/2004/03/284156.gif

Who rules the corporate media? OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD,CIA,state media since 1940s (http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/03/284155.shtml)

Operation Mockingbird
By Alex Constantine

Who Controls the Media?

Soulless corporations do, of course. Corporations
with grinning, double-breasted executives,
interlocking directorates, labor squabbles and
flying capital. Dow. General Electric. Coca-Cola.
Disney. Newspapers should have mastheads that
mirror the world: The Westinghouse Evening
Scimitar, The Atlantic-Richfield Intelligentser.
It is beginning to dawn on a growing number of
armchair ombudsmen that the public print reports
news from a parallel universe - one that has never
heard of politically-motivated assassinations,
CIA-Mafia banking thefts, mind control, death
squads or even federal agencies with secret budgets
fattened by cocaine sales - a place overrun by lone
gunmen, where the CIA and Mafia are usually on
their best behavior. In this idyllic land, the most
serious infraction an official can commit--is a
the employment of a domestic servant with (shudder)
no residency status.

This unlikely land of enchantment is the creation
of MOCKINGBIRD. Coming Undone

KoRn


Keep holdin' on when
My brain's tickin' like a bomb
Guess the black thoughts have
Come again to get me
Sweet bitter words
Unlike nothing I have heard
Sing along mocking bird
You don't affect me

That's right
Deliver it to my heart
Please strike
Be deliberate
Wait
I'm coming undone
Irate
I'm coming undone
Too late
I'm coming undone
What looks so strong so delicate

Wait
I'm starting to suffocate
And soon I anticipate
I'm coming undone
What looks so strong so delicate

Choke, choke again
I thought, my demons were my friends
Getting me in the end
They're out to get me
Since I was young
I tasted sorrow on my tongue
And the sweet sugar gun
Does not protect me

That's right
Trigger between my eyes
Please strike
Make it quick now

Wait
I'm coming undone
Irate
I'm coming undone
Too late
I'm coming undone
What looks so strong so delicate
Wait
I'm starting to suffocate
And soon I anticipate
I'm coming undone
What looks so strong so delicate

I'm
Trying to hold it together
Head is lighter than a feather
Looks like I'm not getting better
Not getting better

Wait
I'm coming undone
Irate
I'm coming undone
Too late
I'm coming undone
What looks so strong so delicate
Wait
I'm starting to suffocate
And soon I anticipate
I'm coming undone
What looks so strong so delicate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=857Wf4fTPn4

[hunkahunka]

http://i006.radikal.ru/0806/cb/1fffddf5d6c8.jpg

from: http://www.nobodylovesalice.com/
Alice came into the world unloved. Bouncing from foster home to foster home, she never experienced love in even the most basic of ways. As Alice changed from child into a woman, she still failed to receive that fairytale romance she so desperately needed. Try as she may to find that love it seems to be just out of reach. As those poor misfortunate souls that fail to requite her love they pay for it with a world of pain and torture.

video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMlHTEF6tis

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll242/exilesrs/NLA01.png
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll242/exilesrs/NLA03.png

[hunkahunka]

Quote:
Christmas in the Cult
© Svali
But for the child raised in a generational satanic cult, Christmas has a very different meaning. But at night, things are quite different. The child who in the daytime looks forward to Santa and presents under the day, quakes with terror at the thought of what will come at night.
The cruelty surrounding Christmas and the solstice is intense. Children are often abused by cult members dressed as Santa; or a mocking of the nativity occurs with the end result that “Herod” succeeds in slaying the baby Jesus (with ritual murder of an infant occurring). The child may be sexually abused under a Christmas tree, and paraphernalia of the holiday are given a new and dark meaning.


http://musicaretro.castpost.com/nirvana%20-%20heart%20shaped%20box.mpg.jpg

Gus Van Sant spares no attention to detail, does he? Check out this clip
from Van Sants 'My Own Private Idaho'.
The scene is Christmas time in Portland, where Scott's handler, the drunk street pimp (a 'chickenhawk', they are called, according to Cobain) has been humiliated and dumped by Scott, and is sitting in a shop doorway with Mike (River Phoenix), and an old colleague, a fellow aging alcoholic 'chickenhawk', with dyed hair and dyed moustache, tries to cheer him up, and offers to take him out to a bush party with an offer of free booze. Then the camera focuses in on his old friend's shoes, and he is wearing these bizarre shoes with bells on the toes.
He is also wearing a striped red leather jacket.
The implication is that this man has just returned from an mk trauma session with a very young child, and still has on the silly shoes that he is told to wear while abusing the child. The shoes are worn to throw authorities off. If the child mentions "oh, and they had red jackets and shoes with bells on them" to a care giver while giving an account of the rape, it renders the story implausible. What springs to mind is a rape scenario by Santa and his Elves, which of course would never be believed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuygD6ao_uw&feature=related
http://scifiscripts.name2host.com/msol/idaho.html

BAD GEORGE

Bob! I bring great tidings and much joy.
Some of that old rot gut
that you and I used to drink. I
have three bottles stashed in the
bushes out on eighty-second.

BOB

What blew you in?

BAD GEORGE
Think of the fun we can have, if
we could only rind a ride for a
journey to the bushes where the
hooch is hid.

BOB
If I shared your wine, I might
catch this awful disease you
appear to have. My clothes would
turn striped, and I would suddenly
have bells on my toes, like this
here...
Bob points to George's bells on his shoes.

[soulja]

reading your posts turquoisefire777 and hunka reminded me at that Korn album cover i've posted some time ago. i think it's time for a re-post, infact i'll repost all of their covers as they are full of the things we are talking bout in this thread.

http://www.superawesomewow.com/pics/kornalbum.jpg



The programmers and parents of slaves frequently give stuffed animals. The teddy bear without hands represents to the victim their helplessness.

You mean this Bear?
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/a2/0e/f36f828fd7a03a5a02a61110.L.jpg

Does Kanye seem a bit helpless to you?



http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hs/Korn-freaks.jpg

http://www.rockguiden.se/Bilder/kornissu.jpg

or how about that one?

http://galerie.pampuch.cz/images/alba/nahledy-velke/korn_korn.jpg
reminds me of:
The Finders-A CIA front established in the 1960's. It has top clearance and protection in its assigned task of kidnapping and torture-programming young children throughout the U.S. Members are specially trained government kidnappers known to be sexual degenerates who involve the kidnapped children in satanic sex orgies and bloody rituals as well as the murders of other children and slaughter of animals.
They use a fleet of unmarked vans to grab targeted children from parks and schoolyards.


http://i13.tinypic.com/63ctpvd.jpg

In doing so they use children within their organization as decoys to attract the victims close to the vans where they are grabbed by adults. They then drug the children and transport them to a series of safe houses for safe keeping. They are then used in their ceremonies for body parts, sex slaves and some are auctioned off at various locations in the northern hemisphere. In the past they have been auctioned off near a location in Nevada and Toronto , Canada . Marion David Pettie, the leader of the cult, is an identified homosexual pedophile and a CIA officer. His son was an employee of a CIA proprietary firm, Air America , which was notorious for smuggling drugs, destinedfor the U.S. , out of the Golden Triangle into Saigon during the Vietnam war."
http://www.whale.to/b/alexander.html
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ciadrugsabusemurder.shtml

backside of the teddy one
http://wwjsnl.com/images/KORN.jpg
remember the MI6 blog talking bout the frog symbolising a pedophile ?
and Pans Labyrinth where the little girls mission involved stealing a key from a giant frog inside a tree ? she got it in the end but was covered in dirt from head to toe. like victims of rape feel ''dirty''. there's a key on the Korn cover too and the boy wears a crown because he's a bloodline monarch, castle in the back, all those adults with weird animal masks like in some MK trauma session/ satanic ritual, and it's full moon. the door is locked, he can't escape.
in other words he's helpless, that's were the teddy fits into the picture ;)

http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgpp0147+issues-album-art-korn-poster.jpg
one eye puppet

http://www.nealosis.com/demo/playlists/album/art/536.jpg
mirror, dark alter or handler/abuser behind him

[soulja]

some more album covers that weren't covered in the thread so far.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Korn-npth.jpg
'no place to hide' reminder, possible trigger

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/05/Korn-Clown.jpg/200px-Korn-Clown.jpg
Korn single ''Clown'', silence trigger, abused kid

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Korn_blind.jpg
'Blind' scarabeus (symbol used by agyptian mystery school/religion) on top of a doll (mk victim ?)

[americana]

This thread certainly has me thinking, noticing things, making connections.

Has anyone else seen the new Pacino/ De Niro vehicle, Righteous Kill?

You will note the black onyx ring worn by Pacino - - which is a big hint about his character.

Also, there is a woman, whose daughter is killed by her boyfriend (or is it the new stepfather, whatever) who has a STAR Tattoo on her upper arm, in the back. She is filmed so that you can't miss it. Bloodline hint, I believe.

And women in this movie are entirely expendable.


As far as the Star Tattoos go - - it's one of those small, open stars, just simply "drawn" with lines.

Sometimes you will see them on people's hands, sometimes lower thumb or wrist.

Frankly, it's an odd sort of tattoo to get - - it SEEMS initially to be utterly without any meaning . . . Not beautiful, not interesting, not particularly skillful on the part of the tattoo artist.

Yet so many have them - - celebs, musicians, models . . . .

What do THEY think that they mean when they are getting these particular tattoos? I mean, as far as tattoos go, you MIGHT get a butterfly believing, on one level, that it's beautiful, represents a new life, freedom, etc.

(((((Oh, and speaking of Butterflies - - Heidi Klum's earrings at the Grammys!!!!!)))))

These star tattoos are nothing to look at, yet are rampant.

Last week, I saw a girl with 2 on her hand. Did she pass some sort of test?

Thoughts?

[brown velvet]

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/28%2009%2008%20crem/cremaster04a.jpg


Matthew Barney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathew_Barney) (born March 25, 1967 in San Francisco, California [1][2]) is an American contemporary artist and the partner of Björk.

Early life
Barney has one sibling, an older sister named Tracy. When Barney was six, his father Robert got a job running the food services at Boise State University and the family moved to Idaho. When Barney was 12, his parents divorced and his mother Marsha Gibney (an abstract painter) moved to New York. Barney and his sister remained with his father in Boise, but he frequently visited his mother in New York, where he was exposed to contemporary art.[1] Consequentially, Barney spent his youth partially in Idaho, where he played football at Capital High School, and partially in New York City with his mother Marsha, who introduced him to art and museums. This intermingling of sports and art would inspire his later work as an artist. Barney entered Yale University planning to study medicine, but became enamored with art and fashion. He received a B.A. from Yale in 1989. He also worked briefly as a model for Click Modeling Agency, and was in a J. Crew advertisement.

The cremaster muscle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremaster_muscle) is a muscle that covers the testis.

The film series The Cremaster Cycle is Barney's best-known work. The films had very high budgets by experimental art film standards, and featured such varied celebrities as Norman Mailer, Ursula Andress, and Richard Serra. Stylistically, his work is comparable to the large-scale, mythical films of Alexandro Jodorowsky.

In 2006, he released Drawing Restraint 9, a collaboration with his partner Björk, who plays the female of the two central roles in the film, and contributed the music for the soundtrack.

In interviews, Barney has mentioned the phenomenon of hypertrophy as a metaphorical inspiration for much of his work; several of his performance pieces have involved Barney restrained or somehow encumbered while attempting to execute a drawing.

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/28%2009%2008%20crem/cremaster02.jpg

Hypertrophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertrophy) is the increase of the size of an organ or in a select area of the tissue. It should be distinguished from hyperplasia which occurs due to cell division increasing the number of cells while their size stays the same; hypertrophy occurs due to an increase in the size of cells, while the number stays the same.

Clitoromegaly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoromegaly)

In the most pronounced cases, clitoromegaly is a symptom of intersexuality since the large clitoris resembles a penis (the different grade of genital ambiguity is commonly measured by the Prader classification [2] ranging, in ascending order of masculinisation, from 1: Female external genitalia with clitoromegaly through 5: Pseudo-Phallus looking like normal male external genitalia

Clitoromegaly is otherwise a rare condition and can be either present by birth or acquired later in life. If present at birth, congenital adrenal hyperplasia can be one of the causes, since in this condition the adrenal gland of the female fetus produces additional androgens and the newborn baby has ambiguous genitalia which are not clearly male or female.
In acquired clitoromegaly the main cause is due to hormonal imbalance affecting the adult women, as in polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS) , arrhenoblastoma and Fraser syndrome).
Clitoromegaly may be acquired through use of anabolic steroids or testosterone supplements, both of which can cause enlargement of the clitoris. This occurs in Female to Male Transsexuals (FtM) after a period of hormone replacement therapy. Like FtM transsexuals, female body-builders who use androgens may also experience enlargement of the clitoris and increases in libido. Women who use testosterone for therapeutic reasons (treating low libido, averting osteoporosis, as part of an anti-depressant regimen, etc) may also experience some enlargement of the clitoris although the dosages warranted for these conditions is much lower.
Deliberately induced clitoris enlargement, as form of female genital body modification, is reported to be achieved through testosterone injections directly in the clitoris shaft.

Aesthetics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetic) (also spelled æsthetics) is commonly known as the study of sensory or sensori-emotional values, sometimes called judgments of sentiment and taste.[1] More broadly, scholars in the field define aesthetics as "critical reflection on art, culture and nature."[2][3] Aesthetics is a subdiscipline of axiology, a branch of philosophy, and is closely associated with the philosophy of art.[4] Aesthetics studies new ways of seeing and of perceiving the world.[5]

The Cremaster Cycle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cremaster_Cycle) is a sequence of five films by Matthew Barney, entitled Cremaster 1 to Cremaster 5 which create a self-enclosed aesthetic system. The conceptual departure point for the cycle is the male cremaster muscle, and the films are filled with anatomical allusions to reproductive organs and the process of sexual differentiation.

Cremaster 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cremaster_Cycle#Cremaster_1_.281995.29) (1995)
A musical revue performed on the blue astroturf playing field of Bronco Stadium in Boise, Idaho, Barney's hometown. Two Goodyear blimps float above the field while four air hostesses tend to each blimp. In the middle of each cabin interior sits a white-clothed table, its top decorated with an abstract centerpiece sculpted from petroleum jelly and surrounded by large clusters of grapes. In one blimp the grapes are green; in the other they are red. Under both tables resides a character known only as ‘Goodyear’ (played by Marti Domination) who apparently inhabits both blimps simultaneously. After prying an opening in the tablecloth(s) above her head, she transfers grapes under the table and uses the grapes to create shapes which are mirrored by the dancers on the field below. The camera switches back and forth between Goodyear's designs and aerial views of the chorus girls moving into formation: their designs shift from parallel lines to the figure of a barbell, from a large circle to an outline of splitting and multiplying cells, and from a horizontally divided field emblem (Barney's signature motif) to a rendering of an undifferentiated reproductive system (which marks the first six weeks of fetal development). Gliding in time to the musical score, the chorus girls delineate the contours of a still-androgynous gonadal structure, which echoes the shapes of the two blimps overhead, and symbolizes a state of pure potential.

Cremaster 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cremaster_Cycle#Cremaster_2_.281999.29) (1999)

Cremaster 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cremaster_Cycle#Cremaster_3_.282002.29) (2002)

The third installment of the cycle is a 182-minute narrative based around the final construction of New York City’s Chrysler Building. The building itself can be seen as a character, a host to the events that happen therein. The main story involves a struggle between Hiram Abiff, the supposed architect of the Temple of Solomon (played by Richard Serra), and ‘the Entered Apprentice’ (played by Barney). They reenact the myth of Hiram Abiff, a murder deeply soaked in Masonic initiation rites.

The narrative begins as a female corpse (meant to be Gary Gilmore from Cremaster 2) digs her way from under the foundation of the building. Somewhere inside the building, five pallbearers place her into the back of a Chrysler Imperial New Yorker, which five 1967 Chrysler Crown Imperials are aimed at. The Apprentice climbs through one of the building’s elevator shafts to find a car whose cabin he will use as a mold to cast the perfect ‘ashlar’ (a symmetrically hewn stone that symbolizes moral rectitude in Masonic ritual). Meanwhile, the five Chrysler Crown Imperials pummel and ultimately destroy the Imperial New Yorker containing Gilmore in a dramatic demolition derby, which was later reprised in a Cadillac advertisement. By using a mold for the ashlar rather than carving it, the Apprentice has thus cheated in his rites of passage and has sabotaged the construction of the building.

The Apprentice comes to wait for retribution at the Cloud Club bar. In a room adjacent to the bar, a woman (paralympic athlete Aimee Mullins) systematically cuts a large number of potatoes, using blades attached to her shoes, into the shape of a wedge. She uses the wedges to tilt the bar so that it is not level (mirroring the Chrysler Building’s newfound disruption). The bartender, in his efforts to serve the Apprentice, keeps having accidents: breaking shelves, breaking glasses, squirting himself with beer from pressurized kegs, etc. An interlude at a horse track sees the Apprentice getting his teeth violently knocked out by hitmen as punishment for his fraud.

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/28%2009%2008%20crem/the-cremaster-cycle.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/28%2009%2008%20crem/Cremaster3theOrder.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/28%2009%2008%20crem/cheetah.jpg

Back in the Cloud Club, he is escorted to a dental office, where he is stripped of his clothes, under which he is wearing the costume of the First Degree Masonic initiate. An apron of flesh obtrudes from his navel, referencing the lambskin aprons worn by Masonic candidates as a symbol for the state of innocence before the Fall. A hot sheet of plastic is molded over his face keeping his mouth open to accept the compressed remains of the Imperial New Yorker like a pair of dentures. At that moment, the Apprentice's intestines prolapse through his rectum. This ceremonial disembowelment symbolically separates him from his lower self. For his hubris he is simultaneously punished and redeemed by the Architect - whose own hubris, however, equally knows no bounds. [4] The architect returns to his office to construct towers (in further reference to the Temple of Solomon) which he uses to climb to the top of the building to which the Apprentice has escaped. The next scene describes an apotheosis, the Architect becoming one with his design, as the tower itself is transformed into a maypole.

The next section of the film is an interlude called “The Order,” in which initiation rites of the Masonic fraternity are rehearsed. This game takes place in the spiraling levels of the Guggenheim Museum. Each level is introduced to the audience by five showgirls each wearing little besides a pearl thong and headdress: the First Degree, a chorus line of girls—dressed as lambs—performing an elaborate dance; the Second Degree, a battle between two punk bands (Agnostic Front and Murphy’s Law); the Third Degree, Aimee Mullins wearing a set of Plexiglas prosthetic legs transforming into a half cheetah/half human hybrid; the Fourth Degree, a set of sculptures which must be fitted together in a certain way; and the Fifth Degree, a man (Richard Serra) throwing melted petroleum jelly against a metal plate. The Apprentice must overcome each obstacle, but only succeeds after reaching the top and working backwards.

In the ensuing scene, which returns to the top of the Chrysler Building, the Architect is murdered by the Apprentice, who is then killed by the tower. Both men have been punished for their hubris and the building will remain unfinished. The film ends with a coda (a continuation to the opening scene of the movie) that links it to Cremaster 4. This is the legend of Fionn mac Cumhail, which describes the formation of the Isle of Man, where the next installment of the Cremaster cycle will take place.


Cremaster 4 (1994)
This episode is set on the Isle of Man and centers on the Tourist Trophy motorcycle race, re-interpreted as the formative process of sexual differentiation. The racers are deemed Ascending Hack, and Descending Hack, and are followed by Faeries while a Satyr (also played by Barney) journeys to the finish line.


Cremaster 5 (1997)
This final episode is set in Budapest, Hungary, at the State Opera House, the Gellért Baths, and the Széchenyi Chain Bridge. Correspondingly Barney plays the Diva in the Opera House, the Giant in the baths, and the Magician on the Bridge (Houdini). All are watched by The Queen of Chain (played by Ursula Andress) while she sings.



March 30, 2006
cre•mas•ter (http://grammarpolice.net/archives/000965.php)
In panning Matthew Barney's Drawing Restraint 9, Paddy Johnson of Art Fag City offers the following definition of the "cremaster," the structure after which Barney's original film cycle is titled: "a thin muscle consisting of loops of fibers derived from the internal oblique muscle and descending upon the spermatic cord to surround and suspend the testicle." I've only ever seen that explanation cited—I think it's canonical.

But how instructive is the alternative biological definition of a cremaster—a hook-shaped structure that a caterpillar creates to affix its chrysalis to a support? Working under this alternative notion, if only for entertainment purposes, I can find one convincing application in the series: in the final segment of Cremaster 3, the epilogue-ish passage called "The Order." (If you haven't seen the film, I'm probably going to lose you, but nevertheless I'll try to provide some very brief context. For the very curious, this short section of the film—and only this section—is available on DVD. I understand that the DVD cut is an "enhanced" version and doesn't appear exactly as it does in the film, for whatever it's worth.)

"The Order" follows The Entered Apprentice (Barney) as he performs his final ritual toward ascension or absolution, having failed the formal test toward the Sublime Degree of Master Mason that makes up the bulk of the movie. Staged in the ramped atrium of the Guggenheim, TEA must succeed in a challenge, level by level, overcoming an obstacle on each. Low-fi 3-D text introducing the hero and minibosses reinforces the video game feel of the piece. The time clock in this contest is provided by sculptor Richard Serra, who—in an adaptation of Serra's own notorious Splash series—slings molten vaseline down the Gugg's ramp from the topmost floor. TEA scales these levels and retraces his ground, nominally accomplishing tasks and facing along the way a Busby Berkeley–inspired chorus line (who also appear in Cremaster 1); The Entered Novitiate, played by the purrfect Paralympic Aimee Mann; a battle of the bands between 'core groups Agnostic Front and Murphy's Law; and a sculpture of a Loughton Ram. (Eric Doeringer and Google can fill you on the suggested mythology of all the various characters.)

It's a distinct departure from the rest of the series for a variety of reasons that are neither here nor there. But problematically, this epilogue mostly lacks the focus on (relatively) nonlinear sculptural processes—a criticism you might apply to Cremaster 3 as a whole, which is altogether more cinema than sculpture, but to this part in particular.

The notion of the Guggenheim as "chrysalis" is not merely inviting because you get to say that butterflies inform Barney's stag film. No, it's the obvious and emphatic narrative that emerges in the atrium, practically a humanist script for the cycle of life: TEA's first challenge is the mommy line of Rockettes, whose significance in Cremaster 1 is inarguably neonatal; Agnostic Front vs. Murphy's Law is good clean dirty punk-rock adolescence; Mullins plays the bride stripped bare. A man's calling comes in the form of Barney's sculpture, and finally, cresting the development cycle, is the master, Barney's peer and his better. As a space the atrium even loosely analogizes a cocoon. (The Gugg's certainly served as such for Barney's career.)

Aaaaaand as you might say of a Matthew Barney or a Zadie Smith, I've come this far with my flight of fancy and can go no further, having no good strategy for ending it, except to say that 1) without having even seen DR9 I know I can emphatically agree with AFC's Johnson that Barney should employ neither CGI nor Björk, and 2) that I will enjoy watching this entry gradually descend, testicle-like, down the page, the (0) comments note speeding it like an anchor toward oblivion. If I've contributed a timewaster on the order of Matthew Barney Versus Donkey Kong, I'm pleased with the fruits of this afternoon.

NB: Around the date of the release of Cremaster 3, I did attempt an earnest analysis of the Cycle for a publication, only to be rewarded by the editor with the print subtitle, "It Takes Balls To Make Art This Weird!" Maybe I have lingering issues.

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/28%2009%2008%20crem/Cremaster.jpg

Cremaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremaster)
A hook-shaped protuberance from the rear of the chrysalis casing in a certain species of butterfly, by which the caterpillar fixes itself to the pad of silk it has cemented to the underside of a perchhttp://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/28%2009%2008%20crem/serpinseminated.jpg


cremasterfanatic (http://www.cremasterfanatic.com/Characters3.html)

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/28%2009%2008%20crem/cremaster03.jpg


brown.

[brown velvet]

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/25%2009%2008%20toys%20dana/AmbiguouslyGayDuo01.jpg

The Ambiguously Gay Duo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ambiguously_Gay_Duo) is an American animated comedy sketch that debuted on The Dana Carvey Show before moving to its permanent home on Saturday Night Live. It is created and produced by Robert Smigel, J.J. Sedelmaier, and J.J. Sedelmaier Productions as part of the Saturday TV Funhouse series of sketches. It follows the adventures of Ace (voiced by Stephen Colbert) and Gary (Steve Carell), two superheroes whose sexual orientation is a matter of dispute. Ace and Gary's initials, A and G, appear on their shirts, and could also stand for "ambiguously gay."

The Ambiguously Gay Duo is a parody of the comic book superheroes Batman and Robin, who some suggest are a gay couple, a charge most famously leveled by Fredric Wertham in his 1954 book, Seduction of the Innocent.


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/25%2009%2008%20toys%20dana/Masterdisguise.jpg
The Master of Disguise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Disguise) is a comedy film released in 2002 starring Dana Carvey, Jennifer Esposito, James Brolin and Brent Spiner. Adam Sandler produced The Master of Disguise through his Happy Madison production company.
The plot is centered on Carvey as "Pistachio Disguisey", a member of a family with supernatural skills of disguise. The patriarch of the Disguisey family (Brolin) is kidnapped by Devlin Bowman (Spiner) in an attempt to steal a variety of priceless artifacts.

Although the movie was a massive critical failure, it was nonetheless a financial success. it still managed to make back more than double its 16 million dollar production budget at the U.S Box Office, grossing approximately 40 million dollars, and making 43 million worldwide. The plot was considered sophomoric even for a purported children's movie,[weasel words] compounding the fact that there were several "disguises" that would clearly not be recognized by youngsters (Tony Montana from Scarface, for example). In addition, there were many indications that the film was rushed; for example, there are scenes hinted at in the trailers that do not appear in the actual movie. Also, the cinematography and special effects are considered quite poor for a movie released in 2002, especially when the camera very obviously turns away from a Disguisey as he is coming out of/going into a disguise.

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/25%2009%2008%20toys%20dana/cherrypie.jpg

brown.

[brown velvet]

Scylla and Charybdis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scylla_and_Charybdis)

Scylla and Charybdis are two sea monsters of Greek mythology who were situated on opposite sides of the Strait of Messina between Sicily and Italy. They were located in close enough proximity to each other that they posed an inescapable threat to passing sailors; avoiding Charybdis meant passing too closely to Scylla and vice versa.

Scylla was a creature who dwelt in a rock, and regularly ate sailors who passed by too closely. Her appearance has varied in classical literature; she was described by Homer in The Odyssey as having six heads perched on long necks along with twelve feet, while in Ovid's Metamorphoses, she was depicted as having the upper body of a nymph, with her midriff composed of dogs' heads. Charybdis had a single gaping mouth that sucked in huge quantities of water and belched them out three times a day, creating whirlpools.

Odysseus was forced to choose which monster to confront while passing through the strait; he opted to pass by Scylla and lose only a few sailors, rather than risk the loss of his entire ship into the whirlpool. Jason and the Argonauts were able to navigate through without incident due to Hera's assistance, while Aeneas was able to bypass the deadly strait altogether.

catch22?


christophdebabalon (http://christophdebabalon.com/)



http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/25%2009%2008%20toys%20dana/ScyllaandCharybdis01.jpg

AIR or WIND (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/mindcontrol/Chapter07.2.htm) -- Vortexes suck the person down and away, a strong wind takes the alter(s) into the Rubicon of Outer Space and the body dismembers itself as it goes away. The mind doesn’t understand why it is being torn apart, only that it is being torn like a tornado. The alter may also go into a bubble and float away. (This effect is put in w/ drugs and hypnosis.) They will dissociate and nothing is real. How does one place into a child these types of programs? Let’s say the programmers want to put in the Tumbleweed Program where the child feels like it has become a tumbleweed & can’t ground and get its bearings on anything. Let’s say the programmer also wants the child to lose his arms & legs while being blown away.

The child is dehydrated so the mind is overheated and hallucinating. Special drugs are also given to the child to make it more delirious, make it more suggestible, etc. The little child by this point has no mind of its own. Heavy fans with hot air are placed upon the child. It is hypnotically told that it has no arms and no legs. The child is too weak to think for itself. It is almost comatose. The child will be left for perhaps 8 hours as a script which keeps repeating itself is played on a voice box. The child will hallucinate the script or the video it is being shown.

When the child can give the script back to the programmer exactly like it is meant to be, then the programmers know they can stop. The child alter is to take on the identity of the tumbleweed. If it responds like many Main alters--it will pass this ability on to splits that it creates for this purpose. These splits created for the tumbleweed script will be clean slates for the programmers to manipulate. By the way, smelling salts are used to wake up child victims who are too comatose.


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/25%2009%2008%20toys%20dana/scyllaandcharybdis.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/25%2009%2008%20toys%20dana/charybdis.jpg


Unshackled (http://www.scribd.com/doc/3839510/Kathleen-SullivanUnshackled-a-survivors-story-of-mind-control)
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/25%2009%2008%20toys%20dana/unshackledkathleen01.jpg

Stairwell
The stairwell is just as it sounds, it is a stairwell that is placed into a system. The stairwell (http://www.xs4all.nl/~sm4csi/nwo/MindControl/Chapter07.2_Unknown.htm) can be used as a trap for alters who are unwise enough to be lured by programming to go into it. The stairwell system connects various levels. There are booby traps and demonic entities attached to the system. Stairwells may be sealed up with Gatekeepers assigned to protect them. If an alter proceeds down a stairwell to get to other levels they need to realize that they initially will hit “tornado (also called whirlwind) programming” and flooding of memories. The tornados will spin the victim inward and disorient them. The alter holding the body will feel as if it is out of control and going to die.

Tornado System
This is a free floating system that moves around areas that the programmers want protected. When it hits an alter(s) it causes confusion, spinning, and switching, as well as a feeling of losing control. It’s part of the elemental back up programs discussed within a few pages

brown.

[brown velvet]

this one had a real mk feel to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkhnS4m4NCM&feature=related


stills from this one....
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/28%2009%2008%20crem/wormall.jpg



reminded me of this, as soon a I saw it.....



http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/28%2009%2008%20crem/the-cremaster-cycle.jpg

teeth kicked out?
No teeth (baby) very early trauma?


brown.

[brown velvet]

this managed to fight it's way past my pop up blocker, determined little thing that it is.... got quite a punch, hasn't it?

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/28%2009%2008%20crem/kylietickets.jpg


brown.

[hunkahunka]

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=Matthew+Barney+Cremaster&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=cremaster&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#

[americana]

Good stuff, Brown Velvet. Reminds me of the TWISTER in the Wizard of Oz!

[hunkahunka]

http://pichostonline.com/u/080930/fb27e25993.jpg (http://pichostonline.com/)
child vampire Josh Miller wears William Burroughs t-shirtin 'Near Dark'


I found another vampire teens/ OTO reference, this from the 1987 movie
'Near Dark', starring this kid Josh Miller as a vampire wearing a William Burroughs t-shirt. (William Burroughs was a member of the OTO)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Dark
Near Dark (1987) is a vampire Western film, written by Eric Red and Kathryn Bigelow, and directed by Bigelow.The movie has a sizable cult following.

the entire film is on YouTube in 10 parts:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nImxQaQ5Inw

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7e/Pointbreaktheatrical.jpg/200px-Pointbreaktheatrical.jpg
Point Break is a 1991 action film directed by Kathryn Bigelow and starring Keanu Reeves, Patrick Swayze and Gary Busey. The title refers to the surfing term point break.

The film was a box office success upon its release, and it has since gathered a cult following. The film also contains notable celebrity cameos including Red Hot Chili Peppers front man Anthony Kiedis.

[brown velvet]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Korn_blind.jpg
'Blind' scarabeus (symbol used by agyptian mystery school/religion) on top of a doll (mk victim ?)

jodie marsh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Marsh)
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/30%2009%2008%20toys%20mrsh/jodiemarshspidersa.jpg


brown.

[brown velvet]

I really wanted to title that last post


Spiders From Marsh


:D:D:D

[brown velvet]

I found this film sad and deepy disturbing, very similar theme to the post soulja made about a book he was reading.
It also had the feel of My Private Idaho, prostitution and chickenhawks an' all.




Mysterious Skin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysterious_Skin) is a 2004 film directed by California filmmaker Gregg Araki. The film received extensive critical acclaim. The film is Araki's eighth, debuting at the Venice Film Festival in 2004, although it was not more widely distributed until 2005. It is based on the 1996 novel of the same name by Scott Heim.

plot
In 1981 Kansas, eight-year-olds Neil McCormick (Chase Ellison) and Brian Lackey (George Webster) are sexually abused by their baseball coach (Bill Sage). Brian reacts to what happens by developing amnesia and blocking out the event, for many years suffering from violent nose bleeds. As Brian grows up he becomes a rather asexual, geekish boy, and glimpses of memories in recurring dreams make him believe he has been abducted by aliens. Neil, who had began developing feelings for older men as a child (after reading his mother's adult magazines and watching his mother perform fellatio on an older boyfriend of hers), goes on to become a prostitute.

When Brian (Brady Corbet) turns 19 years old, he meets Neil (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) for the first time since childhood and they uncover the secrets they share as well as beginning to heal one another.

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/30%2009%2008%20toys%20mrsh/200px-Mysterious_skin.jpg


brown.

[hunkahunka]

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/30%2009%2008%20toys%20mrsh/200px-Mysterious_skin.jpg


brown.
video:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5zIwknFy2cvideo:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=o9st2Dx6NfY&feature=related

[hunkahunka]

Mysterious Skin was filmed in Hutchison, Kansas, not far from where
Scout leader and serial killer Denis Rader lived in Wichita, Kansas (aka BTK killer)

http://www.netpages.free-online.co.uk/scoutaus/sofa_logo_1.gif

http://www.freewebs.com/thebtksite/raderhat1.jpg
Denis Rader in Scout leader uniform


and not far from where former boy scout William Burroughs lived (close to Kansas City and gay serial cannibal occultist Robert Berdella)

check out this trailer for a film about occult homosexual cannibal
Robert Berdella (Bazaar Bizarre) :

(click on the page to start the trailer video)
video:
http://www.pathfinderpictures.com/mov/bazaar.html

[hunkahunka]

So, it turns out that William Burroughs lived close to Robert Berdella,
in Lawrence, Kansas , and moved there in 1981 (he lived there from 1981 to 1997) while nearby, the Robert Berdella murders: raped, tortured and killed: six men, in nearby Kansas City , between 1984 and 1987. It is alleged that Berdella did this alone, but several observers, including investigators, contend that it was the work of a coven or cult.(the first one he was caught for was in 1984. Who knows how many he (they?) really got away with. He/they may have been slaughtering and draining bodies while he worked as a chef at the exclusive Missouri University restaurant 'the University Club'. Maybe those bodies were somehow never found either.

Burroughs and Berdella were both occultists who kept diaries, and both had ties to the CIA. Interesting, Lawrence, Kansas is also a university town, home to the University of Kansas.

His strange behavior on the job was written off as so much advertising hype -- until the afternoon of April 2, 1988. That day, a neighbor of Berdella's stepped outside to find a naked stranger crouching on his porch. The 22-year-old wore nothing but a dog collar, buckled around his neck, and he blurted out a tale of sexual abuse that sent Berdella's neighbor racing for the telephone, to call police. According to the victim, he had been held captive in Berdella's home the past five days, subjected to repeated sexual assaults before he finally clambered through a second-story window and escaped. Detectives picked Berdella up and searched his home for evidence. In doing so, they opened up a grim Pandora's box of horror. In the house, police discovered some 200 photographs of naked men, the subjects bound and clearly suffering from cruel abuse.
http://www.trulyunusual.com/gallery/files/1/2/6/berdella2_small.jpg

Torture devices were also seized in the raid, along with a pair of human skulls, occult literature, and a Satanic ritual robe. That weekend, deputies unearthed bone fragments and another human head in Berdella's yard
A bargained guilty plea on one count of murder consigned Berdella to prison for life, but authorities suspected him in at least seven other deaths. On December 19, 1988, Berdella pled guilty to first-degree murder in the death of victim Robert Sheldon, and to four counts of second-degree murder involving additional male victims.

Berdella and Burroughs both had a history of arrest and convictions for drug dealing, and connections to gay male junky prostitutes.
Berdella lived a thirty minute drive away from Burroughs:
http://www.johnnyroadtrip.com/cities/kansascity/maps/easternkansas.gif
Both Burroughs and Berdella were Catholic.

[emerald]

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/janet-jackson-hospitalized-in-montreal/13665
Mind control went wrong?

[soulja]

jodie marsh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Marsh)
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/30%2009%2008%20toys%20mrsh/jodiemarshspidersa.jpg


brown.

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/jodie-marsh-peta.jpg
i see a doublemeaning here, for the elite and those that engage in human sacrifice, MK trauma sessions, canibalistic rituals/acts, vampyric lifestyle, humans would be considered to be animals.

http://www.dlisted.com/files/jodiemarshnewtat.jpg
bat tatoo and devil tail..

[hunkahunka]

Mysterious Skin was filmed in Hutchison, Kansas, not far from where
Scout leader and serial killer Denis Rader lived in Wichita, Kansas (aka BTK killer)

http://www.netpages.free-online.co.uk/scoutaus/sofa_logo_1.gif


note the pyramid and the fleur de lis in the Scouts logo. Also the title 'Mysterious Skin' evokes the term 'Mystery religions'

[soulja]

the moviecovers they chose for the BTK killer flicks are interesting
http://www.hotmoviesale.com/dvds/4053/1/BTK-Killer.jpg
one eye and silence sign/trigger
http://www.hotmoviesale.com/dvds/56710/1/Hunt-For-The-BTK-Killer.jpg
(the second one seems to be from a different movie about the same subject)

haven't seen both of them but i'm confident they will tell two stories, one for the public and another one (in a symbolic way) to the people in the know and those who are able to decode the symbolic references.
kinda like americana did with that Pacino/de Niro flick.
and hunka with private idaho, for example the part with the christmas bell shoes.
a little detail most wouldn't put much thought into it but wich is one of the details/clues that tell a lot more.

[soulja]

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/janet-jackson-hospitalized-in-montreal/13665
Mind control went wrong?

i wouldn't go as far as saying it went wrong but it's certainly an age were 'problems' as in cracks, memory backflashes and so on would occur more often.
sometimes this is the point were MK victims have outlived their usefullness, or/and become a danger because of their memory recollection, so they are 'thrown off the freedom train' (lot's of suspicious celeb deaths) others are simply fixed up via ''medical treatment'' or ''therapy'' ''reha'' and what not.

Britney i think was one that got ''fixed'' after her whole 'Im the Anti Christ,666, shave my head' episode.

[soulja]

check out this vid of two 'crazy' swedish twins
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7636577.stm

found it in here,
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36973
where the explainations for that bizarre event range from 'high on pcp' to 'a completely staged event'

i think there's a good chance those twins were MK victims, superhuman strenght, the fact that they're twins, the determination they displayed to kill themselves (suicide prog)

[americana]

check out this vid of two 'crazy' swedish twins
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7636577.stm

found it in here,
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36973
where the explainations for that bizarre event range from 'high on pcp' to 'a completely staged event'

i think there's a good chance those twins were MK victims, superhuman strenght, the fact that they're twins, the determination they displayed to kill themselves (suicide prog)

Great "cross-reference" to other topics on the thread. I often think that other things could be interpreted through the lens of this thread and that together with the sort of deep readings that are done on Tintin's News thread, the whole picture would come together . . .


Second thought - - very briefly! :D Do you guys have haunted house events in the UK? By this, I mean a temporary "fun house" that's set up, generally at Halloween time. There are animated gory displays, distorting mirrors, a soundtrack, all set to shock and scare the audience. You pay at the door and walk through. Hopefully you make it out in one piece! Perhaps you've seen such things in movies.

In any case, I'm thinking how triggering!!! Ironically, the proceeds often go to charity.

[hunkahunka]

:eek:


Berdella and Burroughs both had a history of arrest and convictions for drug dealing, and connections to gay male junkie prostitutes.
William Burroughs lived in Lawrence, Kansas, a thirty minute drive away from Robert Berdella, in Kansas City:
http://www.johnnyroadtrip.com/cities/kansascity/maps/easternkansas.gif
Both Burroughs and Berdella were Catholic.


http://www.ozmuseum.com/location/images/ksmap.jpg
The OZ Museum is located in Wamego, Kansas. Wamego is located 10 miles east of Manhattan at the intersection of U.S. highway 24 and Kansas highway 99, also known as The Road to OZ.

5.9. Where in Kansas did Dorothy live?

It's never made clear. In the books, the only clue given is in The Road to Oz, where it is revealed that she lives near Butterfield. Only trouble is, there is no real town named Butterfield in Kansas. Another clue Baum gave us — but not in the books — comes from some publicity material for his 1904-05 comic page, "Queer Visitors from the Marvelous Land of Oz." In a letter to her old friends, Dorothy's address is given as "Uncle Henry's Farm, Near Topeka."

[hunkahunka]

video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_YC-ES3Oss

Aleister Crowley wrote Liber Oz in 1941 for Louis Wilkinson (AKA Louis Marlow), based on a degree lecture he had written around 1916. His original name for it was "The Book of the Goat," and he considered it as a sort of manifesto for O.T.O. In a letter to G.J. Yorke on Aug. 30, 1941, he described it as the "O.T.O. Plan in words of one syllable," and in a following letter, dated Sept. 13, 1941, he wrote, "Rights of Man is an historical document. The items don't go easily on the Tree; but I've got them down to five sections: moral, bodily, mental, sexual freedom, and the safefuard tyrannicide .. 160 words in all."

The Hebrew word OZ conveys a number of meanings. Pronounced owes, it means "strength." Pronounced ezz, it means "a she-goat." Pronounced ahs, it means "strong, mighty"; but if held a bit longer, it means "to take refuge."


Frank Baum and his Theosophical and Political ties.


Frank Baum, the author of The Wizard of Oz was a member of the Theosophical Society(which he and his wife joined in 1896). L. Frank Baum lived in South Dakota and created The Wizard of Oz book as a theosophical fairy tale incorporating the "ancient wisdom" of the Mystery Religions. The books have so much material from inside the secret world of the Illuminati, that the few who understand the Illuminati wonder if Baum wasn't an insider. There are so many occult and drug references in the movie and books that various groups have tried to ban them.

The Baum's were an interesting couple. His wife was a very liberated woman for early turn of the century. She was very active in the Women's Suffrage Movement. Frank loved mysticism and enchantment and stories of fairy tales. He also was a member of the Theosophical Society with Madame Blavatsky. The couple often had Seance parties and Woman's Liberation gatherings in their home. If any of you follow the thread of Crowley, Blavatsky, you will also know that many Hollywood (holy-wood)stars and celebraties also got involved with secret societies. Harry Houdini, the master illusionist, also was a regular attendee to their parties. No wonder the Wizard of Oz has so many occultic overtones. They were apart of something bigger and media or folklore is a good medium to get your message out there. I would base them in the Isis Mystery religion of our new AEON of Horus. It is said that the word OZ comes from the name of the Egyptian diety Osirus

this site is too much for me:
http://synkronos23.vox.com/library/post/the-wizard-of-aiwaz-ozaowvis.html

[hunkahunka]

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/oto-logo.jpg
The Ordo Templi Orientis logo

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e343/JamesRandom/ordo-2.jpg

[soulja]

i started a thread about the OTO a while back, sadly it ended up in the rant room and got locked by limelady in the end.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30540

there's a lot of good info spread throughout the thread though.

[james83]

i started a thread about the OTO a while back, sadly it ended up in the rant room and got locked by limelady in the end.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30540

there's a lot of good info spread throughout the thread though.

Sick bastards.

The video Hunkahunka posted says it all. Something tells me it's rule number 4 that appeals most to the nonces who peddle this crap. :mad:

[hunkahunka]

Denis Rader (BTK killer) : boy scout and later scout leader
Richard Angelo: boy scout
Paul Bernardo: boy scout
Ted Bundy: boy scout
John Edward Robinson (Kansas/Missouri serial killer): boy scout
Gus Van Sant: gay boy scout
John Wayne Gacy: gay boy scout
Jeffrey Dahmer: gay boy scout
William Burroughs: gay boy scout
Arthur Gary Bishop (pedophile murderer of five boys): gay boy scout
Michael Aquino: gay boy scout
John Joubert (serial child killer): gay boy scout

[emerald]

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/s-korean-actress-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide/13751

[hunkahunka]

1985 San Francisco, CA

On 6-15-85 police recovered the body of “John Doe #60" from an auto salvage yard. The man had been tortured and sexually abused over a period of several days before his killers finally cut a gash in his perineal area, causing him to slowly bleed to death. A pentagram had been carved into his chest and there was black candle wax present in his hair and right eye socket. The break in the case came from responding to a disturbing the peace call 9 days later. Two patrolmen arrived at the residence of Clifford St. Joseph in the middle of a homosexual S & M Satanic ritual with 3 friends. Clifford St. Joseph had no apparent connection to the Church of Satan, but did have connections to the O.T.O., (which had an 11th homosexual degree). Rather than a nude female sacrifice, a 19 y.o. male was bound and stripped naked inside a circle of black candles on the floor & being whipped and assaulted, and the arrival of police prevented him from being John Doe #61. Paramedics rushed him to a rape center where he recounted that Clifford had met him at a gay bar, later drugged him and held him prisoner, where he was repeatedly assaulted by Clifford and Maurice Bork, and other Satanists who dropped by for the event. The participants were all dressed in black robes, a human skull with a black candle adorned the mantel, and The Satanic Bible was being used in the proceedings. Bork later jumped bail, but was recaptured after an armed robbery in 1987. Bork admitted to participating in the killing of John Doe #60 during a Satanic Ritual, in which the victim’s blood was collected in a gold chalice and drunk as a toast to Satan. Clifford St. Joseph was convicted of first degree murder and received 25 years to life. The other unidentified participants were never caught, and still remain at large. Anyone with any information should contact the SFPD. (AP)
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1988 Santa Roca, CA Satanists Charlotte Thrailkill and Daryl Ball, who were part of a "devil club", were caught and sentenced to prison for sexual battery against 6 children involving kiddie porn and Satanic rituals. Ball and Thrailkill both pleaded No Contest to the charges . Daryl Ball threatened witnesses to keep them from testifying. During the 18 month preliminary hearing, the children testified that they were threatened to keep quiet or the perpetrators would kill their mothers. The children also described being molested while being filmed with a banner in the background reading "Super Duper Child Molesting Day." They were forced to watch the video of their own molestation afterwards. A plea bargain was struck, reportedly to spare the kids from having to testify further. In Sept. 1998, Satanist Charlotte Thrailkill was declared "a violent sexual predator"--the first female to have that distinction in California. The same children were questioned by the Army later as part of the Presidio Day Care molestation case, and one girl identified Michael Aquino as "Uncle Mickey" who allegedly molested her. Aquino denied the allegations and was never charged.
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The Photographs Disclose Murder:
By April 4 the authorities had an overwhelming amount of evidence to charge Robert Berdella on seven counts of sodomy, one count of felonious restraint and one account of first degree assault. After closer scrutiny of the photographs it was discovered that six of the 23 men identified were homicide victims. The other people in the pictures were there voluntarily and participated in sadomasochistic activities with the victims.
The Torture Diary:
Berdella established the 'Rules of the House' which were mandatory for his victims or they risked being beaten or receiving bolts of electric shock on sensitive areas of their bodies. In a detailed diary that Berdella kept, he logged details and the effects of the torture he would subject upon his victims. He seemed to have a fascination with injecting drugs, bleach, and other caustics into the eyes and throats of his victims then anally raped or inserted foreign objects inside of them.

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Under questioning about this crime, Berdella considered the influences that might have been a factor. He said that he had seen a film as a teenager called The Collector that had planted a dark fantasy in his mind (he was 16 and it was 1965). The man in the film, based on a novel by John Fowles, is driven by the need to capture a woman and keep her imprisoned while he develops a relationship with her. Eventually she dies and he decides that it was her fault. He ponders what he needs to do with the next captive to make it a better experience for him and then goes in pursuit of her. Berdella said that this movie gave him a framework for feelings he was already having.

[amethyst]

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/s-korean-actress-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide/13751


http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/sep/10end.htm

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/06/30/2008-06-30_untitled__2fall30m-4-1.html
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/ap_recruitersuicides_092708/

http://www.army.mil/-news/2008/01/31/7222-army-responds-to-rising-suicide-rates/

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-wallace14-2008sep14,0,246155.story

[hunkahunka]

Robert Berdella's house was bought and demolished by a Kansas City
aircraft parts manufacturer with ties to the defense department by the name of Delbert Dunmire.

Delbert Dunmire likes a good party. So when the Punxsutawney, Pa., high school class of '52 decided to have a 35th reunion, Dunmire offered to do the honors. First he gathered his former classmates and their spouses for an eight-bus, 2½-hour convoy—led by Dunmire in his cherry-red Rolls convertible—to the Pittsburgh airport. There they settled into a chartered wide-body jet and three smaller craft (two of them Dunmire's) for a flight to Miami, Fla., where the 450 partygoers boarded the cruise ship Carnivale for a three-day loop to the Bahamas and back. Except for gambling losses incurred in Nassau's casinos, Dunmire, a Kansas City multimillionaire, picked up the entire tab for the $500,000 shindig. "I like a good time," he says. "I've always enjoyed having a whole group go out, especially those who maybe don't get to do this very often."

Dunmire's generosity actually stems from more than just a yen for good times. It has to do with a bank he robbed when he was 23, his imprisonment for two years, financial troubles with the business he later founded and, he says, a mother who never lost faith in her errant son. The Love Boat bash was only the latest grand gesture from a small-town boy who made good. Buoyed by the success of his $20 million aircraft-parts firm, Growth Industries Inc., Dunmire, now 53, in the past year has pledged about $2 million to charities, not including gifts he's slipped to friends and causes in need of a quick fix. Vowing he won't hoard his money, the hefty, gray-bearded entrepreneur today likes to quote the Bible: "For what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

The son of a day laborer, Dunmire grew up in Cloe, near Punxsutawney. He recalls his father walking the railroad tracks in search of coal to heat the family home, even though his parents, now deceased, always tried to share whatever they had with family and friends. Dunmire decided early that he did not want to remain poor. "When I was 8 or 10 years old," he says, "I made up my mind to be wealthy and drive a Rolls-Royce." By the time he graduated from high school, he had a '52 Chevy convertible and was headed for a short-lived stint at the University of Buffalo to study medicine. "I majored in beer drinking and minored in social life," he says. "So I left before they asked me to."

Restless and disappointed in himself, Dunmire joined the Air Force and became a fighter pilot. He also ran up $5,000 in gambling debts, which led, he says, to the biggest mistake of his life. On an October day in 1958, Dunmire left Schilling Air Force Base in Kansas, drove to nearby Abilene and robbed a bank of $2,461. Twenty-two minutes later he was arrested, and in a matter of days he was sentenced to 50 years.

"I was humiliated," says Dunmire, who considered suicide while jailed. Watching fellow convicts win release one year only to return to prison the next, he says, "was devastating," and this set him on the road to self-improvement. He read a lot and made friends with parole officers, which paid off when his sentence was commuted in 1960. After studying aeronautical engineering at the University of Kansas, he opened a machine shop in his Kansas City garage in 1966, making small parts for Bendix, Bell Labs and eventually TWA and other airlines.

Although overexpansion in the late '70s almost cost Dunmire his business, he is again prosperous. And still unconventional. Last year the entrepreneur and his fiancée, Debbie Lunsford, then 29—they wore $5,000 clown outfits to their engagement party—invited all of Kansas City to their wedding. Thousands attended, and Frankie Avalon, Fabian and Bobby Rydell provided the entertainment.

Dunmire decided that similar fanfare was in order for his Punxsy High reunion. In its final stages the party required a staff of 50 to coordinate, and at least one couple thought the invitation was a hoax. But the ship, the planes and the lobsters were real, as was the admiration expressed for Dun-mire's turnaround. "It takes a lot of moxie to pick yourself out of the dirt," said former classmate Donald Swan-son. And how was the Bahamas trip? "Great. Fabulous. Marvelous. Wonderful. Awesome. Tiring," said Bill Ferko.

Dunmire said that his life truly turned around only last year, when he ran across a letter from his mother to a Kansas parole officer. "Delbert has begged our forgiveness," his mother wrote, "and one day he will prove to us he will be the man we want him to be." "That stopped me cold," he says, "so I decided to see what I could do for society."


Some things stand about this Delbert Dunmire guy to me. First, he was military/air force, with connections that got his 50 -year sentence for armed robbery commuted after just two years in jail. Bank robbery is a federal offense.

Commutation of sentence involves the reduction of legal penalties, especially in terms of imprisonment. Unlike a pardon, a commutation does not nullify the conviction and is often conditional.

In the United States, reduction of a sentence is handled by an executive head of government and is normally linked to prisoners' good behavior.[1] The President of the United States solely holds the power to commute federal sentences[2] while commutations of state charges are handled by the governor's office.[3]


Then, only six years later, Delbert Dunmire is suddenly an aeronautical engineer who owns a machine shop manufacturing specialty parts for Bendix Corporation?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bendix_Corporation
Since the 1950s Bendix and its successors have managed Department of Energy (DOE) facilities in Kansas City, Missouri and Albuquerque, New Mexico which procured non-nuclear components for nuclear weapons, and during the 1960s the company made ground and airborne telecommunications systems for NASA, including the ST-124-M3 inertial platform used in the Saturn V Instrument Unit..

Dunmire went to the University of Kansas, which is in Lawrence, Kansas, the same city that William Burroughs moved to. He and his fiancee had this gigantic lavish engagement/wedding party in Kansas City in 1986, dressed as clowns, the same time frame that the Berdella black mass murders were going on:


The police then arrested Mr. Berdella at his shop and searched his house, where, besides the skull of Mr. Sheldon, they found the pictures, the torture journal, pornographic magazines and an extensive collection of primitive art as well as a recording of a satanic ritual, a black mass. They then turned their attention to the yard, where excavation produced the skull of Mr. Pearson. As the investigation continued, a side of Mr. Berdella began to emerge that neither his neighbors here nor others back in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, had known. At various times before opening the Bazaar Bizarre, he also worked as a cook in several clubs, including two of the city's most exclusive, the University Club and the Carriage Club.

I turns out that Berdella was quite the society lady. He worked at the highest class restaurants in Kansas City, helped set up chef training programs, wrote restaurant reviews for the Kansas City Star newspaper, organized a Neighborhood Watch, was a volunteer and donor to KCPT (Kansas City Public Television), and according to one 2004 documentary:


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0397071/trivia
'A municipal judge in Kansas City used to put transient youth in Berdella's protective custody (temporary foster care) for drug rehabilitation and referred to him as "Dr. Berdella".

Looks like Berdella had some pretty powerful connections around and about Kansas City.

KCPT also did an interview of Robert Berdella , the primary purpose of which was to whitewash the allegations of cult involvement, imo.(to much public outcry about granting Berdella a platform
on public television)

Next, we have this rich Delbert Dunsmire philanthropist with connections to defense contractors, with all this sudden wealth, deciding to buy up Robert Berdella's house and demolish it, donating the land to community organizations. Just like was done with Jeffrey Dahmer's building:

Demolition began today at the apartment building where Jeffrey Dahmer killed many of his victims and kept their body parts. Campus Circle Project, a not-for-profit business and community group, bought the building in August and said it was tearing it down out of respect for the families of Mr. Dahmer's victims. Grass and flowers will probably be planted on the site, members said.

Campus Circle project was organized by the nearby Marquette University.

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KKK logo: Pyramid with upside down triangle

[brown velvet]

Toys (1992)

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Toys (1992) (http://www.film.com/movies/review/toys/5949132)

Before Barry Levinson made his 1982 debut as a director with the memorable Diner, he and co-writer Valerie Curtin concocted a script about a military plot to use toys for war. No studio would touch it. Now after the box-office success of Good Morning, Vietnam, the cachet of Bugsy and the Oscar for Rain Man, Levinson has the clout to make his dream movie a reality.
To cut Toys a minor break, it is ambitious. It is also a gimmicky, obvious and pious bore, not to mention overproduced and overlong. Levinson works best close in; the visionary art of Tim Burton and Terry Gilliam eludes him. Like And Justice for All, another Levinson-Curtin script, Toys mistakes bombast for grandeur.

Robin Williams stars as Leslie Zevo, the son of a toy maker (Donald O'Connor) with a macabre sense of whimsy. Just before the old man pops off, he asks his brother, Leland (Michael Gambon), a three-star general, to run the toy business. He thinks the general will make a man of Leslie, but the decision sounds like something more pernicious: a plot contrivance.

Leslie is only slightly less bubble-headed than his sister, Alsatia (Joan Cusack), who dresses in doll clothes. Williams's riffs soared as the Genie in Aladdin. But Michael Jackson impressions and cracks about getting laid don't jibe with Leslie the isolated, gentle fool. Toys is tainted with pseudocleverness, such as casting the charmingly assured rapper L.L. Cool J as Patrick, the general's commando son.

Behind closed doors the general turns toys into miniature weapons. It's up to Leslie, Alsatia and a duplicating-machine operator named Gwen (a babe cliché made sassy and human by Robin Wright) to save the factory and the world from this F.A.O. Schwarzkopf. No amount of brilliant production design -- and Toys has plenty, courtesy of the dada-besotted Ferdinando Scarfiotti (The Last Emperor) -- can disguise the smug hypocrisy of an antiwar tract that decries the killing games of vid-age children and then offers up a climactic battle between hawk toys and dove toys for their movie delectation.

PETER TRAVERS

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nytimes review (http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9E0CE7DD123EF93BA25751C1A964958260)

BARRY LEVINSON'S "Toys" is a magnificent mess, a chaotic fantasy set in a brilliantly vivid, Surreal landscape that recalls the paintings of Magritte and the pop-up illustrations in children's books. Dada is also evoked, though less consistently. "Toys" dazzles the eye even as the mind goes numb attending to the narrative, which is about the apocalyptic battle for control of Zevo Toys, where whimsy is said to be a tradition but is more like a curse.


Here is a nonmusical "Babes in Toyland" crossed with "Dr. Strangelove," a danceless "Nutcracker" that suggests "Paradise Lost," yet plays as if it were the nightmare of a child of 4. "Toys" is supposed to be spontaneous and fun, but it has a drearily self-important message stolen from a bumper sticker: War is hazardous to children and other living things.

It's impossible to tell for whom this movie was made.

Very young children would seem to be the target audience, though they won't have a clue as to what's going on. Their adult companions will be driven to dreamless slumber. Masochistic film students may possibly respond. The confusions of "Toys" are so many that they appear intentional, as if arcane truths were to be discovered somewhere within.

Just before ailing old Kenneth Zevo (Donald O'Connor) dies, he entrusts the family toy company to his brother, the mad General Zevo (Michael Gambon), whose life has been without purpose since the end of the cold war. Thus passed over are Leslie (Robin Williams) and Alsatia Zevo (Joan Cusack), Kenneth's children, both of whom acknowledge that they are too innocent to run the factory that is their world.

Leslie spends his days moving happily around the assembly lines where smiling workers put together dolls, stuffed animals and the kinds of harmless toys that kids drop out of car windows. He is especially fond of novelties made for joke stores: water glasses that drip, fake deviled eggs and blobs of plastic in the shape of what the movie genteelly calls dog poop. At one point he demonstrates a spectacular smoking jacket, which is a jacket that emits smoke.

Alsatia is more interested in paper dolls, and wears clothes that are fixed to her body as if they were paper-doll outfits. At the end of the day, Leslie and Alsatia go home to their pretty pop-up Victorian mansion, set among a series of vast green, treeless hills, where Alsatia sleeps in what looks to be a golden sarcophagus shaped like a duck.

Meanwhile, the general sets about to turn Zevo Toys into a high-tech armaments plantHis inspiration: the cool reflexes displayed by little boys playing the kinds of video war games that Zevo has firmly refused to manufacture. The general's idea is to revolutionize war by the development of miniature, nuclear-equipped airplanes, rockets and whatnot that any child could operate by remote control. .

It takes Leslie and Alsatia some time to realize that things aren't what they used to be at Zevo Toys. Trusted employees are being let go, including the lady who used to paint lips on alligators. The general hires storm troopers to protect his private laboratories. His curiosity piqued, Leslie sneaks into the general's workshop one day to discover the awful truth: a huge collection of vile video games and war toys. Leslie's reaction: "My God, F. A. O. Schwarzkopf!"

War soon erupts at Zevo Toys as the forces of heaven, led by Leslie and Alsatia, take on those of hell, the general's mechanized, computerized toys, which initially massacre the teddy bears, dolls and novelties that Leslie throws into the struggle. It's just one of the many contradictions of "Toys" that the film, which is antiwar, comes to life only in this spectacular if muddled confrontationIn the context of a movie that makes such a big thing of innocence, the mayhem of the battle is pretty strong stuff, especially when a principal character is decapitated. .

There are, in fact, a number of wars going on in this antiwar movie. The most apparent is the struggle between the brilliant imagination of Ferdinando Scarfiotti, the production designer, and the banal, fake-innocent conceits of Mr. Levinson, who directed the movie and wrote the screenplay with Valerie Curtin. Though Mr. Scarfiotti is reported to have used Dada as an inspiration for the film's look, nothing in the script has much to do with Dada's resolute antipathy to reason. "Toys" doesn't exalt randomness. It is the victim of it. The film has no consistent vision. Even worse, it's not very funny. Leslie, Alsatia and their friends laugh more often than the audience does.

Mr. Williams seems peculiarly subdued. His monologues in "Good Morning, Vietnam" have far more to do with the exuberant iconoclasm of Dada than does anything in "Toys." He has the occasional rude line, but he spends most of the film behaving with immense politeness, which is apparently to be equated with innocence.

There's also something fatally wrongheaded about the film's attempts to equate Leslie's humane impulses with the sorts of toys that for perfectly good reason, would bore most children today. No adult of a certain age can have forgotten how quickly the windup toy always ran down. Though war toys aren't great, "Toys" sometimes gives the impression that it would like to disinvent everything that's battery-operated and remote-controlled.

While "Toys" means to celebrate the benign paternalism of Zevo Toys before the maniacal general takes over, it presents a far scarier picture of assembly-line labor than anything in "Modern Times." Beneath giant plaster heads of pastel-colored animals, the Zevo workers go about their tasks with the blank expressions of people who have been lobotomized and then had smiles surgically fixed to their faces.

It takes time to get the full measure of the film's failure. Not since "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" has there been a movie set in such a stylish, hermetically sealed environment, calling up a world where absolutely nothing is real. The effect is sort of pleasant for a while, like being in a weightless state. Eventually, though, whimsy takes over, nausea threatens and patience runs out.

Mr. Gambon ("The Singing Detective") has fun as the mad general, but it's a role that Mr. Williams might have done equally well, and with some of the mania that "Toys" so desperately lacks. The only two performers who come out of this film unscathed are Robin Wright, who plays Leslie's sweetly dippy girlfriend, and LL Cool J, the rap performer, who appears as the white general's black son. The screenplay offers no explanation for this color difference, which becomes one of its few good jokes.

Mr. Levinson reportedly hoped to direct "Toys" years ago as his first film, but good fortune kept getting in the way as he went on to direct "Diner," "Tin Men, "Good Morning, Vietnam," "Rain Man" and "Bugsy," among other hits.

His luck finally ran out.

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Here (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,305256,00.html)
Barry Levinson claims he spent 12 years nurturing the idea for Toys; it makes you scared to think about the ideas he rejected. Set in a big, pretty toy factory that's a piece of hermetically surreal Pop art design, Toys isn't a movie, exactly — it's a bunch of sets waiting for the characters to show up. The film is a jokey, nattering fiasco, as awful as Hudson Hawk. And yet, like that famous disaster, it never loses its aura of precocious self-satisfaction. Long after the audience has given up on it, Toys seems peculiarly aware — even proud — of how precious and overblown it is. It keeps sputtering in new directions, all noise and color, like a fireworks display that goes off while still in the box.

When the toy factory's loving founder (Donald O'Connor) dies, a battle for control is waged between his son (Robin Williams), a smiling, angelic innocent, and his brother (Michael Gambon), a hawkish Army officer who wants to create war toys. The plot, what there is of it, suggests an absurdist antimilitary satire left over from the '60s — it's microwaved Kurt Vonnegut. For most of the movie, though, we have absolutely no idea what's going on. Levinson creates a few charming visual conceits (a house that looks like a series of Magritte paintings; Joan Cusack, as Williams' costume-crazed sister, wearing a pink plastic milkmaid's wig), but he doesn't give the audience anything to hold on to. Every character in Toys is a daffy, self-canceling flake. Even Williams has no comic presence; he's more like an extra who gets to deliver a few lines. By the time the little tanks and dolls declare war on each other, the film's ''ironic'' violence seems nothing more than a symptom of terminal creative narcissism, a grand statement by a filmmaker who has forgotten what, if anything, he had to say.

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rogerebert (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19921218/REVIEWS/212180303/1023)

`Toys" is visually one of the most extraordinary films I've seen, a delight for the eyes, a bright new world. It takes place within the entirely imaginary world of a giant toy corporation, which springs from a limitless grain field as if there were no other buildings on earth.

The toy kingdom is in jeopardy. Kenneth Zevo (Donald O'Connor), the kindly old despot who runs it, knows he is near death.

He hesitates to turn control over to his son Leslie (Robin Williams), who is still too fanciful for such trust, or to his daughter Alsatia (Joan Cusack), who is . . . well, not quite the person to take such responsibilities. So in a leap of faith he wills the company to his brother, The General (Michael Gambon).

It might seem strange to turn over a toy company to a man of war. But perhaps not. There is potential for growth in war toys - particularly for a whimsical company where the assembly line consists of giant toy elephants and such. The General arrives with his son Patrick (LL Cool J), a camouflage expert who can conceal himself in the folds of a sofa, and in no time he is involved in a struggle with Leslie and the others who hold the old man's memory dear.

"Toys" is said to be the first movie Barry Levinson ever wanted to direct - before "Diner," not to mention "The Natural," "Tin Men," "Good Morning, Vietnam," "Rainman," "Avalon" and "Bugsy." He has been preparing the project for 12 years, and you can sense that when you see Ferdinando Scarfiotti's sets, which are enchanting down to the smallest architectural detail and the most insignificant toy.

"Toys" is not in any ordinary sense a children's movie; it uses toys and childhood to make some deeper points, about the way our society exploits innocence - about how we are cynical marketers of naivete.

All of these notions are to be found in "Toys," and yet the movie is curiously unclear about them. Despite all of that time for preparation, the screenplay by Valerie Curtin and Levinson seems pulled in two directions. The opening scenes create a completely original world, and then the second half of the film invades that world, not with fresh imagination, but with tired old conflicts. What are we to make of a world where the battle against war toys is carried out . . . by programming peaceful toys to fight? There is an apocalyptic battle scene toward the end of the movie between good and bad toys. Grinning, friendly alligators are blown up by guided missiles, and so forth. This sequence opens with a brilliant piece of improvisation by Robin Williams, who addresses his toy troops in a speech borrowed from Patton and Henry V, among others. But then the scene itself, which must have been considered the high point by the filmmakers, seems muddy and confused, maybe because the film has not invested it with urgency, or told us how we are supposed to feel about it.

There's a curious residue of dissatisfaction after "Toys" is over. It opened so well and promised so much that we're confused: Is that all there is? The film seems filled with ideas, but what are they, exactly? The production creates a wonderful world, but doesn't make its purpose clear. It is impossible to fault the performances (Williams seems born to live in this toyland, and Cusack's performance seems more subtly inspired the more you think about it).

The production design deserves Academy recognition. But at the most fundamental level, "Toys" is a film not quite sure what it's about.

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[brown velvet]

The "apocalyptic battle scene toward the end of the movie between good and bad toys". I haven't watched this film for a couple of years, knew it was important, and only recognised very few reasons as to why it is (I think now) in the 'smaller scale' of influences and triggers, however, I recently was reminded again about Toys, and thought I would 'swot up' on it a little more. I no longer have the film easily accessable, and the thought of paying for another one (it is only worth watching as if it were a documentary about triggers / training / MC ) is too much for me.
I distinctly remember a scene with Alsatia at the dining room table, she was placing different vitamins (& drugs?) on to a slice of bread. Along with some comment about vomiting, and I know it was a horrific Eating Disorder set-up / reference. My memory is not as it once was..... The other thing was the 'war scene' The General deffinitely fire's on the 'red cross' vehicles, scoring -tiv points I think. I didn't take screen shots at the original time of viewing, and with no access to the dvd I had to go hunting for any references of it. As the post shows, I read a lot of reviews, all of which I have placed for your informational viewing and enhancement ;) between them they explain the hodge podge of the whole film, yet individually, each scene is relevent to MC especially of children. The War scene was being used by an American to do with the wars directly around the US. Quite an accidental warning. I cannot vouch for the script placed under the images, I decided to leave them in, as he does say it is from the film. The point is, who it is that the General 'fires on'.

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Use of the emblems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Cross_(symbol)#Use_of_the_emblems)


As specified by the Geneva Conventions, the four recognized emblems are to be used only to denote the following:

facilities for the care of injured and sick armed forces members;
armed forces medical personnel and equipment;
military chaplains;
International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement organizations such as the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC), and the 185 national Red Cross and Red Crescent societies.
In order to ensure universal respect for the emblems, the Geneva Conventions obliged their signatories to forbid any other use of the names and emblems in wartime and peacetime.

Nevertheless, the misuse of the emblem is widespread and it is often used as a general symbol to indicate first aid, medical supplies and civilian medical services especially walk-in clinics. Misuses appear in movies (A notable example is The Living Daylights [8][9], wherein narcotics were disguised as Red Cross care packages, as a plot device), on television, and in computer software and games. Service companies, such as those for car repair or lawn maintenance, tout themselves as service "doctors" and incorporate medical symbols to promote themselves.

In 2006, the Canadian Red Cross issued a press release asking video game makers to stop using the red cross in their games.[10]

In order to avoid this conflict, a green cross is often used as a generic alternative.





timeout (https://www.timeout.com/film/chicago/reviews/79671/toys.html)
Levinson's film not only establishes a daunting benchmark for the year's worst, its dire whimsicality will impel many viewers to rush home and kick the hamster. Following the death of toy manufacturer Zevo (O'Connor) whose beanie has ceased to spin, Zevo Toys is inherited by villainous Uncle Leland (Gambon), who plans to pervert the innocent business into the production of lethal military weapons. For most of the film, nephew Leslie (Williams) is too wimpish to oppose him, and his sister Alsatia (Cusack) is clearly one step ahead of the butterfly nets. It's all finally resolved by a war between the toys, with teddy bears dropping like ninepins before the computerised tanks. Some marks for Scarfiotti's sets, but the concept - 'Open the doors to your imagination' goes the injunction - is so sub-Tim Burton that those doors fly shut. The script is haphazard, and our Gambon gets a scene to explain why, as an American general, he sounds so English. Williams has been playing nauseatingly cute for ages, but achieves a new squashiness here as a chatterbox Andy Pandy. Unbelievably rotten.

Barry Levinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Levinson)




Toys (http://www.cs.brown.edu/~bjm/production.htm) (1992) In this Barry Levinson/Robin Williams film, I created a CG beach ball that bounces down a long hallway and opens up like a flower to reveal a hula doll playing a ukulele. The "petals" of the ball fold under to reveal the doll's skirt before she opens fire with her ukulele on LL Cool J. The challenge here was to make the lighting match the live action plates perfectly.

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/October%2008/03%2010%2008%20toys%20magritte/toys_big.jpg

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ynqySeVtD-c&feature=related

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/October%2008/03%2010%2008%20toys%20magritte/toysworstvid.jpg

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mX8DBKNfkKA&feature=related

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/October%2008/03%2010%2008%20toys%20magritte/trailera.jpg

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sTY6brQP2bw&feature=related



http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/October%2008/03%2010%2008%20toys%20magritte/magrittetoysnirvana.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/October%2008/03%2010%2008%20toys%20magritte/toys98.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/October%2008/03%2010%2008%20toys%20magritte/toys99.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/October%2008/03%2010%2008%20toys%20magritte/toysmagritte.jpg


brown.

[hunkahunka]

http://map.missouri.edu/images/buildings/reynolds-alumni.jpg
University Club
The private University Club that butcher/chef Robert Berdella worked at is listed under 'notable gentlemen's clubs' on Wikipedia.
Also on the list:
'the Bohemian Club' (which also has a private restaurant)



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/2301843982_79eedf0fb3.jpg
Bohemian Club
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_gentlemen%27s_clubs#Kansas
List of American gentlemen's clubs
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The following is a list of notable gentlemen's clubs in the United States. Many of these clubs, but not all, admit women.

The traditional gentlemen's club originated in London in the 18th century as a successor to coffeehouses. Today, these clubs also continue to operate in the United States, where most major cities have at least one such club. Gentlemen's clubs are most prevalent, however, in older cities on the east coast. For example, New York City has more prominent gentlemen's clubs than any American city. Many American clubs have reciprocal relationships with the older clubs in London, with each other, and with other clubs around the world.


* Oscar Wilde lectured at the Bohemian Club in 1882

http://sfcitizen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/go8f2150a.jpg

http://www.bilderberg.org/bohem.jpg

[emerald]

Paris Bennett Gives Birth to a Girl

American Idol star Paris Bennett gave birth to a baby girl Monday afternoon in Minneapolis.

The 20-year-old season five contestant was in labor for five hours before giving birth at 3:36 PM (CST) to a 5 pounds 15 ounces little girl. She named her Egypt.

Paris says, Im so excited to finally see my little angel and man does she have lungs on her I guess shes gearing up to be the next American Idol.

A rep for the singer tells Usmagazine.com, The proud first time mother is doing well and recovering. Paris mother Jamecia Bennett and her family is filled with excitement and welcomes their bundle of joy.

Paris will release her first Christmas CD, A Royal Christmas, on October 14.

[soulja]

Paris Bennet's album is called ''Princess P''
http://media.herald-dispatch.com/blog/idol/uploaded_images/Princess-P-CD-759209.jpg

let's have a quick look through her history,

http://z.about.com/d/top40/1/0/K/8/pbennett.jpg

Paris Ana'is Bennett (born August 21, 1988) is an American singer. She came to national recognition as a contestant on the fifth season of the reality television talent show, American Idol, finishing in fifth place. Paris Bennett released her debut album Princess P on 306 Entertainment/TVT Records in 2007.

Early years

Bennett was born in Rockford, Illinois,to Jamecia Venzett Bennett, former soprano vocalist of the vocal ensemble Sounds of Blackness, and current solo artist. Bennett was raised by her mother and stepfather, downtown developer Nedal "Ned" Abdul, in Edina, Minnesota.Paris began performing at the age of six and was trained by her mother and grandmother, Ann Nesby, the former lead singer of the Sounds of Blackness.

Paris has three younger brothers, Shakur, Jamez, Dustin and a sister Shana. Bennett is also trained in hip hop, modern African and jazz dance. She has opened for acts such as Bow Wow. Bennett attended Edina High School and played the part of Dorothy in the school production of "The Wiz" in 2003. Bennett's favorite artists are Gladys Knight, Etta James, Sarah Vaughn, Billie Holiday and Aretha Franklin. In 2004, Bennett shifted to Fayetteville, Georgia to live with her grandparents and began her senior year at Starr's Mill High School.

Bennett had decided to pursue gynaecology, not wanting to walk in the limelight of her family.However, Bennett's grandfather, Tim Lee, saw that the American Idol auditions were being held in Greensboro, and Bennett agreed to try out but said she would give up singing if she did not make it, as stated on the show.

more here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Bennett

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/startracks/061218/kevin_covais.jpg
HOLIDAY 'IDOLS'
Recent American Idol finalists (from left to right) Kevin Covais, Paris Bennett, Mandisa and Ace Young get downright Goofy during a trip to Walt Disney World in Lake Buena Vista, Fla., on Friday. The crooners were on hand to participate in the Walt Disney World Christmas Day Parade, which airs on ABC Dec. 25.

she likes those heart pendants (like pretty much every other celeb we've covered in here)
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/05ry31raxq9Zl/340x.jpg

and of course the butterfly, five pointed star/starfish, the usual..
http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/news/a/american_idol/2006/bennet_paris/elimination_050306/281x211.jpg

[hunkahunka]

Soulja, check out this video of Nina Simone, she looks like she might
be under some type of hypnosis or mk trance:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11y7z_nina-simone-12-little-girl-blue_music

and listen to the eerie words.

I found this video while researching something called Rainbow Spectrum
Film Company, which produced these films (Little Girls Blue 1 & 2):
http://pic.aebn.net/Stream/Movie/Boxcovers/a43530_xlf.jpg

quote Stealtrap:

I have stumbled onto a company called Rainbow Spectrum Film Co. that made films directly related to the theory you put forth. they appear to be programming aides and are definitely something I think you'd be interested in. keep in mind that the films in question are pornographic in nature.
it appears Rainbow Spectrum was continuing the work of New Day Films. the one thing every one of the films containing the Monarch symbolism & themes have in common are writers/directors William Dance(aka William Dancer) and Joanna Williams(aka Wray Hamilton and Jennifer Ray). also of interesting note, some of these films were filmed in the house that served as the mortuary in the movie Phantasm. not sure if that bit is significant or not but it may also point to occult ties. maybe this info can tie some loose ends together. if not, its still interesting and may keep peoples eyes open to this sort of activity.

[soulja]

hmm.. she really seems to be in some sort of hypnotic trance. i don't know much about her but she was a big star and connected to the likes of Danny Glover and Jacko. she got honoured by various organizations too and i think but don't quote me on that one that she started out at a very young age. like so many of them.

btw not related but still interesting, i had a look at the NSA homepage and found this section aimed at children


Hi Kids!
Welcome to the NSA/CSS Kids’ page.

We’re the CryptoKids and we love cryptology.

What’s cryptology? Cryptology is making and breaking codes. It’s so cool. We make codes so we can send secret messages to our friends. And we try to figure out what other people are writing about by breaking their codes. It’s a lot of fun.

On this site, you can learn all about codes and ciphers, play lots of games and activities, and get to know each of us - Crypto Cat™, Decipher Dog™, Rosetta Stone, Slate, Joules, T.Top, and, of course, our leader CSS Sam.

You can also learn about the National Security Agency/Central Security Service - they’re America’s real codemakers and codebreakers. Our Nation’s leaders and warfighters count on the technology and information they get from NSA/CSS to get their jobs done. Without NSA/CSS, they wouldn’t be able to talk to one another without the bad guys listening and they wouldn’t be able to figure out what the bad guys were planning.

We hope you have lots of fun learning about cryptology and NSA/CSS. You might be part of the next generation of America’s codemakers and codebreakers.

http://www.nsa.gov/kids/
http://www.nsa.gov/kids/bios/bios00001.cfm
They are depicted as animal (Monarchs have animal alters)

the DIA also has a kids section on their site
http://www.dia.mil/kids/interfacemx.html

and the CIA
https://www.cia.gov/kids-page/index.html

[astrochicken]

hmm.. she really seems to be in some sort of hypnotic trance.


I doubt it, to me she's got that look about her as if she'd just removed the needle in the dressing room and knows her limits well enough to function without passing out on stage.

[hunkahunka]

listen to the Nina Simone Little Girl Blue lyrics, she is talking about a little girl sitting outside in the rain/snow counting the raindrops and snow drops landing on her, and 'no use if you try to tell them. They would not understand if you try to tell them'. Its like a song about being so cold, that you are turning blue, and you can't move.

this reminds me of the blue/cold and red/hot trauma that Brown has been
posting about:

http://images.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/justforfun/images/gratefuldead_20070108135140.jpg

this also reminds of the hot/cold cycle of drug withdrawal, where the junky suffers alternating bouts of cold chills that can last twenty minutes, followed by the sensation of being overheated and burning, only to return to feeling ice cold, and then back to sweating-hot fever minutes later........
hence the term 'cold sweat', you are still wet from perspiration, your clothes are soaked, then the fever breaks and it is suddenly freezing cold in the room.....then you are shivering under the blankets, in a wet
shirt, smelling of perspiration

[hunkahunka]

Former Mr Gay UK 'slit lover's throat then marinated his diced flesh with fresh herbs'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1070290/Former-Mr-Gay-UK-slit-boyfriends-throat-marinated-diced-flesh-fresh-herbs.html
By Chris Brooke
07th October 2008

* Add to My Stories

A gay chef murdered his lover, cut out part of his leg, seasoned it with herbs and fried it, a court has heard.

Anthony Morley, 35, chewed one of the pieces before throwing it into his kitchen bin.

Morley, a former holder of the Mr Gay UK title, then walked to a nearby takeaway restaurant and told horrified staff: 'I have killed someone, call the police'.
Anthony Morley
Damien Oldfield

Former Mr Gay UK Anthony Morley (l) allegedly murdered Damian Oldfield before chewing part of his thigh

Officers found the naked body of 33-year-old Damian Oldfield on the floor of Morley's bedroom, Leeds Crown Court was told.

He had been stabbed 20 times and his throat cut.

Morley later claimed Mr Oldfield had tried to rape him.

Prosecutor Andrew Stubbs QC, warned jurors that details of the case were 'unpleasant and disturbing.'


More...

* Day 2: Former Mr Gay UK 'went at me with a meat cleaver': Ex-lover gives evidence in murder trial

He added: 'In carrying out your task in this trial you must not allow the horror of what took place to cloud your calm assessment of the evidence.'

He said the two men had known each other for some years.

Mr Oldfield was openly gay and worked selling advertising space for a homosexual lifestyle magazine.

He was described as ' flirtatious, promiscuous, naturally outgoing and bubbly'.

Morley was 'less sure about his sexuality' and had had relationships with both men and women.

He had won the first Mr Gay UK contest in 1993.

On the day of the murder, in April, the two exchanged text messages during the afternoon and later met in a bar in Leeds, where they both lived.

In the texts Morley told Mr Oldfield he had 'never been properly happy being gay'. Mr Oldfield replied: 'Try me...I'm not your average poof.'

They exchanged increasingly affectionate messages and arranged to meet, with Morley stressing he 'wanted to take it slow'.

Later that night they ended up in Morley's bedroom, the court heard. They had been drinking beer and were both around three times the legal limit for driving.

Forensic experts later found evidence that there had been sexual activity.

Mr Stubbs said Morley used two knives taken from the kitchen downstairs to kill Mr Oldfield.

He slit his throat, cutting a vein and an artery in the process, stabbed him with great force in the chest and 19 times in the back.

The evidence indicated that Mr Oldfield had been lying under the duvet when he was attacked from behind.

Mr Stubbs said that after Mr Oldfield died Morley cut a section of flesh from his thigh, took it down to the kitchen and cooked it.

The jury heard that Morley was wearing only a bloodstained dressing gown and flip-flops when he arrived at the takeaway. His face and hands were spattered with blood.

He later told police: 'I know what I have done is wrong, he tried to rape me, at least he won't be able to do it again.'

Morley denies murder. The court was told he was 'at the very least' guilty of manslaughter, but the jury would have to consider issues of provocation and diminished responsibility.

The case continues.

[hunkahunka]

I doubt it, to me she's got that look about her as if she'd just removed the needle in the dressing room and knows her limits well enough to function without passing out on stage.

it is not necessarily an either/or scenario. She could be high, but she could also be in some induced state of dissociation at the same time.

Tens of thousands of people in show business are drug addicts, and a lot of them use the drugs to handle stage fright or otherwise enhance their public performances.

Rarely do any of them act like this on stage.

[hunkahunka]

more on breast implant surgery:

Judge bars footage of Anna Nicole's breast surgery

4 days ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — A judge ordered a Texas doctor and his wife on Friday not to distribute videotaped footage of Anna Nicole Smith's breast augmentation surgery in 1994.

The order settles a lawsuit filed last year by Howard K. Stern, the executor of Smith's estate, who was trying to stop Dr. Gerald Johnson and his wife from distributing the tapes of the former Playboy Playmate.

Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff issued preliminary injunctions against the Johnsons more than a year ago before issuing his final decision.

Stern maintained that Smith never consented to the taping or to allowing the footage to be seen by Los Angeles memorabilia dealer Thomas Riccio, who got tapes from the Johnsons, according to court records.

Johnson has said he routinely records surgeries with the patient's permission and promises to keep the video confidential "during the patient's lifetime."

He said he gave Riccio permission to use the video after Smith died of a drug overdose in February 2007 in Florida. She was 39. Riccio's daughter edited the footage into a five-minute tape, scored with music similar to the theme from the film "Jaws."

The Johnsons' Houston-based attorney, Gus Pappas, did not return a message seeking comment Friday.

Larry Birkhead, who fathered Smith's daughter, called the video "truly disgusting" in a sworn declaration issued last year.

"It was clear that Anna Nicole was unconscious during the videotaping, and even more disturbing, the videotape focused on areas of her nude body that were unrelated to the location of the surgery," he said in the declaration.

Stern's attorney, Vivian Thoreen, said all the tapes have been accounted for under the judge's previous orders. She said the other terms of the settlement are confidential.

Although the Johnsons live in Texas, the Los Angeles Superior Court still has jurisdiction because the physician allegedly tried to disseminate the tape in Los Angeles County, said attorney Bruce S. Ross, who also represents Stern

[hunkahunka]

interesting blog on mind control and media, celebrities, etc.:

http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/2008/10/anne-hathaway-and-helena-bonham-enter.html

in a very similar vein to this thread

[emerald]

Good to tell ppl about the blogspot. I discovered it a few weeks ago. It's really great, considering also that behind it its just a 20 yo boy.

[astrochicken]

Tens of thousands of people in show business are drug addicts, and a lot of them use the drugs to handle stage fright or otherwise enhance their public performances.


I can't disagree, BUT LOL there are drugs and then there are drugs.

1. On smack, you'll sit vacant at the piano and forget lyrics mid-song (sometimes you'll even forget the song to be played after it's announced but before it's played.. watch her look at her hands/the piano)

2. On weed, you'll generally play everything much slower but longer and generally stop to giggle.

3. On amphetamines it'll tend to be faster and a tad more *aggressive*

4. On Coke you'll be playing the song but hearing it from in the adjacent room and one song will feel like a 9-to-5 day at the office

5. On shrooms/acid you'll need someone to tune your instruments (pling,ploing whoops another one gone).




Still, looking at her, i'd say she's on smack.

[hunkahunka]

Good to tell ppl about the blogspot. I discovered it a few weeks ago. It's really great, considering also that behind it its just a 20 yo boy.

that blog is incredible, and he says he is aware of this thread but has not read through the whole thing.
We are on the cutting edge of the conspiracy curve right at this very moment, imo. I expect a wave of Youtube videos on this subject matter to begin soon.

At a guess, there are several that have been deleted by Youtube within hours of having been posted.

[hunkahunka]

I can't disagree, BUT LOL there are drugs and then there are drugs.
1. On smack, you'll sit vacant at the piano and forget lyrics mid-song (sometimes you'll even forget the song to be played after it's announced but before it's played.. watch her look at her hands/the piano)
2. On weed, you'll generally play everything much slower but longer and generally stop to giggle.
3. On amphetamines it'll tend to be faster and a tad more *aggressive*
4. On Coke you'll be playing the song but hearing it from in the adjacent room and one song will feel like a 9-to-5 day at the office
5. On shrooms/acid you'll need someone to tune your instruments (pling,ploing whoops another one gone).Still, looking at her, i'd say she's on smack.

Here is some information on her:

Sometimes known as the High Priestess of Soul, she paid great attention to the musical expression of emotions. Within one album or concert she could fluctuate between exuberant happiness or tragic melancholy. These fluctuations also characterized her own personality and personal life, worsened by bipolar disorder with which she was diagnosed in the mid-1960s, but was kept secret until 2004.[1]
Simone recorded over 40 live and studio albums, the biggest body of her work being released between 1958 (when she made her debut with Little Girl Blue) and 1974.

[hunkahunka]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/2447545474_5f8fac021c.jpg?v=0
Wilde's gay porn and bondage shop in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Building contains businesses named after two founding members of the OTO/Order of the Golden Dawn: Oscar Wilde and Ai Aziz(aka Max Theon) . Upstairs in the center of Wilde's is a membership-only gay porn store (video peep shows) There is also a large secret gay bath house in back of this property, unmarked. (Aziz & Company sells imported clothing from India, and is known as a retail front for Indian hashish imports) Note the pink triangles and the occult ritual masks.

http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/Documents/Bios/Baneast2.gif
Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn logo(with inverted pink triangle)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/31/Sealsolomon.jpg/383px-Sealsolomon.jpg
Also note the reflected image present in the above Seal of Solomon.

and here:

http://kingdomofyahweh.net/images/cremationofcare1.jpg

and here:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/610WYFVWY5L.jpg

[gman]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1075129/Halloween-comes-early-Jackos-wacko-clan-descends-LA-comic-store.html
Halloween comes early as Jacko's wacko clan descends on LA comic store

The singer took his three children - Prince Michael, 11, Paris, ten, and Prince Michael II, six - shopping this week dressed as masked Halloween characters.

And never one to be left out, Jackson looked scarier than ever in a surgical mask, giant black sunglasses and a hooded jumper.

The family, who are rarely seen in public, browsed a comic book store together after slipping in through a back door.

The children removed their masked once inside the store, giving onlookers a rare glimpse at their faces.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/09/article-0-02F2DC4700000578-259_468x546.jpg

Check out the pictures with this article. One of the kids is wearing a white mask with black circles around the eyes. It's a mask of the comic character "Madman".

[hunkahunka]

http://users.belgacom.net/verdonck.eric/wicca/croshead.jpg
Order of the Golden Dawn (white cross on red)

http://www.cremationofcare.com/images/icons/kkk_logo.PNG
KKK logo (white cross on red)

http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/kkk_triangles.jpg
KKK logo

http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/Documents/Bios/Baneast2.gif
Order of the Golden Dawn

[hunkahunka]

interesting video footage of the inside of the Bohemian Club:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjOp574Wc0k

[existenz]

Having the name of a saint as title for a thread covering all the dark stuff that it does is blasphemy imho. It kills me every time i read it.

PS: I know i can avoid it but its always bumped and and now im bumping it :rolleyes:

[emerald]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081010/ap_on_re_eu/eu_sweden_tenor_rape_trial

[hunkahunka]

http://www.destination-out.com/media/images/st-cobain.jpg
this pic is titled Saint Cobain

interesting in the context of St. John (John the Baptist) as has been discussed in this thread.
More angel/monarch/rainbow imagery , imo

[hunkahunka]

[http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/ft5n39p07z/?layout=metadata&brand=oac

I found the above menu poster and wondered what type of meat 'canon'
refers to. I found recipes for 'canon of lamb' and 'canon of beef' online.
But the poster simply says 'canon'.

[lovely , they deleted the image from the site just hours after my posting this!
here is the original link:
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/ft5n39p07z/?layout=metadata&brand=oac
just hours ago the above link displayed an image of a Bohemian Grove menu
poster, and the image has been ripped down in response to this post.]

I looked up the term 'cannon fodder' and found this:




The term derives from fodder - food for livestock - however in this case soldiers are the metaphorical food for cannons.

Origins of the term

The concept of regarding soldiers as nothing more than "food" to be consumed by battle was known at least as far back as the 16th century. For example, in William Shakespeare's play "Henry IV, Part 1" there is a scene where Prince Henry ridicules John Falstaff's pitiful group of soldiers. Falstaff replies to Prince Henry with cynical references to gunpowder and tossing bodies into mass grave pits, saying that his men are "good enough to toss; food for powder, food for powder; they’ll fill a pit as well as better [men]..."

The supposedly first attested use of expression "cannon fodder" belongs to a French writer, François-René de Chateaubriand. In his anti-napoleonic pamphlet "De Buonaparte et des Bourbons", published in 1814, he criticized the cynical attitude towards recruits, that prevailed in the end of Napoleon's reign: "On en était venu à ce point de mépris pour la vie des hommes et pour la France, d'appeler les conscrits la matière première et la chair à canon" — "the contempt for the lives of men and for France herself has come to the point of calling the conscripts 'the raw material' and 'the cannon fodder'.
Maybe because two years earlier,in 1812, this had happened:

During Napoleon's retreat from Russia in 1812 some 12,000 men perished at Vilna in December. Over three days the cold and starvation got so much that many began to eat parts of the dead.


It got me thinking about the Silence of the Lambs poster:
http://posterwire.com/wp-content/images/silence_of_the_lambs.jpg

I found out this poster was homage to Dalis surrealistic film
Un Chien Andalou (short 15 minute silent film)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqoPUKs-mY8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OMzQUletxY&feature=related

(this film contains scenes of torture by full moon, vampirism, people buried in sand, and a butterfly/moth pinned to a wall)
the title Un Chien Andalou means 'an Andalusian dog'

I looked into Andalusia, and found that it is part of Southern Spain,
and the capital city of Andalusia is Seville.

then I found a cartoon movie called 'Vampire of Seville'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y4k9HrukJs

Vampire of Seville - synopsis
After 500 years working as servants in the castle of the Counts Von Salchichen of Francfurt, the opportunity of going on a trip back home came up to Don Walter Toosak Blood and his family, who had became vampires under strange circumstances.
Unexpectedly some old documents make them owners of a castle in their home town.
After a trip with some incidences, along with other funny creatures, they end in New York City, very far from their destination.

Not sure what this all means, but it is interesting stuff.

there was also a Polish 2005 motion picture called RH+, about capturing people to steal their organs:
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCIzrK9w03A

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446774/


http://i.ixnp.com/images/v3.51/t.gif
murder scene from Silence of the Lambs


http://www.duke.edu/web/lit132/dali_cannibalism-autumn.jpg
Cannibalism in Autumn, by Salvadore Dali

[hunkahunka]

http://img193.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=52595_saintwilde2_122_482lo.jpg

http://pichostonline.com/u/081011/cd310e53e0.jpg (http://pichostonline.com/)

[miss_splitfoot]

re the above --- LOL!!! that's desperate

[brown velvet]

kent rogowski (http://www.kentrogowski.com/bears.html)

Bears, is a series of portraits of the most unusual sort: ordinary teddy bears that have been turned inside out and restuffed. Each animal's appearance is determined by the necessities of the manufacturing process. Simple patterns and devices never meant to be seen are now prominent physical characteristics, giving each one a distinctly quirky personality: their fasteners become eyes, their seams become scars, and their stuffing creeps out in the most unexpected places. Together these images form a topology of strange yet oddly familiar creatures. They are at once hideous yet cuddly, disturbing yet endearing, absurd yet adorable, while offering a metaphor for us all to consider. These bears, which have lived and loved and lost as much as their owners, have suffered and endured through it all. It is by virtue of revealing their inner core might we better understand our own.

http://www.kentrogowski.com/Images/Bears/Large/Bear-06-Large.jpghttp://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/September%2008/18%2009%2008%20foetus/Image5-1.jpg
http://www.kentrogowski.com/Images/Bears/Large/Bear-15-Large.jpg
http://www.kentrogowski.com/Images/Bears/Large/Bear-47-Large.jpg
http://www.kentrogowski.com/Images/Bears/Large/BEAR-36-Large.jpg
http://www.kentrogowski.com/Images/Bears/Large/Bear-11-Large.jpg
http://www.kentrogowski.com/Images/Bears/Large/Bear-40-Large.jpg
http://www.kentrogowski.com/Images/Bears/Large/Bear-50-Large.jpg



© Kent Rogowski (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sara_rosen/blog/2008/05/13/kent_rogowski_he_looks_so_normal)
And it was those photos that became Bears, the book that inspired the most bizarre backlash ever from stuffed animal rights activists. I am not kidding! The hackles were up and the fur was flying. Calling it "blatant brutality", Brian Sibley reported on his blog, "Mr Rogowski has become the Damien Hirst of the toy cupboard by taking teddy bears (or as he calls them 'ordinary stuffed animals'), turning them inside out and then I can scarcely type the words re-stuffing them!"
Fortunately, the children (who they so desperately wanted to protect from these savage acts) saw through their paltry protests and created their own copycat attacks. Twelve-year-old Ethan Fuirst created The Transformation of a Bear YouTube video and won second place in his local town's short film competition. He and his chums spent hours training for the procedure by watching House, Grey's Anatomy and Scrubs reruns.
And to think there are people worried about America's future



Kent Rogowski's (http://www.20x200.com/artists/kent-rogowski.html) works are often provocative and whimsical manipulations of objects and images that surround us in our daily lives. From teddy bears, to jigsaw puzzles, to self help books, he uses and alters mass-produced consumer products as a vehicle for self expression. By transforming the generic into something personal, Rogowski questions what these products communicate and also what role they play in our culture.
In 2000, Rogowski received his MFA from the Rhode Island School of Design where he is now a Visiting Critic. His first monograph, Bears, was published by PowerHouse books in 2007. In June of 2007, he had his debut solo exhibition of the same name at Foley Gallery in New York City.
Rogowski's show Love = Love is on display at the Jen Bekman gallery through June 14th.
http://20x200.com/artists/images/kentrogowski_displayimage_1.jpg




http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B6_7_hCbpyw



From the official press release:


"My movie is based on the book Bears by Kent Rogowski. In my film I take my sister's teddy bear and turn it literally inside out. It's a dangerous operation. Only a few doctors agreed to help change this bear's life. They spent hours training for the procedure by watching House, Grey's Anatomy and Scrubs reruns."


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DY3xCBDvTKQ&feature=related



chapter 9 (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/if_chapter9.htm)

Reframing With Metaphors
Metaphors, some from Druidism or from some other occult teachings, are used by the Programmers. For instance, the seasonal changes that leaves on trees make is an example of a programming metaphor.
For those readers who don’t know what refraining is, the following in the book Refraining, Neuro-Linguistic Programming and the Transformation of Meaning by Bandler and Grinder (Moab, UT: Real People Press, 1982) is an excellent story to explain it.
"A very old Chinese Taoist story describes a farmer in a poor country village. He was considered very well-to-do, because he owned a horse which he used for plowing and for transportation. One day his horse ran away. All his neighbors exclaimed how terrible this was, but the farmer simply said ‘Maybe’. "A few days later the horse returned and brought two wild horses with it. The neighbors all rejoiced at his good fortune, but the farmer just said ‘Maybe’. "The next day the farmer’s son tried to ride one of the wild horses; the horse threw him and broke the leg. The neighbors all offered their sympathy for his misfortune, but the farmer again said ‘Maybe’. "The next week the conscription officers came to the village to take young men for the army. They rejected the farmer’s son because of his broken leg. When the neighbors told him how lucky he was, the farmer replied, ‘Maybe’."
The meaning of an event depends upon the FRAME we place upon it. Those frames are perceptions. Occult fairy tales are great for refraining events. A frog turns into a prince. Rudolf's embarrassing red nose becomes a guiding light to bring happiness to people. Many of the common things in our everyday life are refrained by the Programmers to have hidden mind-control meanings. The Teddy Bear the child is given by her Daddy is to remind her how helpless she is to prevent him from raping her. The carousel toy is to remind the child of dissociation and the internal carousel built into the mind. Many of the things that parents, who are intentionally raising a programmed child, do, look nice on the outside unless one can reframe what they are doing in the context of total-mind-control based on trauma and fear. Refraining can be done by collapsing anchors. For instance, the sober part of an alcoholic and the drunk state of the alcoholic are given the same anchor and then these are collapsed together to get the drunk to stay sober. The two states are taken in a process of integration for the refraining to occur. Refraining someone with MPD is almost impossible without integration, but refraining a particular alter with metaphors is not out of reach. The programmers have much more chance to reframe while they program than the therapist, because the programmers set in defensive programs to prevent other’s from reframing.
Power Words, Reversals And Puns
In NLP, 7 senses are taken into consideration. First we see, then we hear, and finally we have the senses of internal kinetics and our emotions. The Programmer also takes into consideration what are called "power words". Those are words which have specific meaning for the person. The programmers also love to use reversals and puns, for instance in Disney’s Ducktales the character says, "I stole ‘em fair and square." Other typical reversals are "Life is death, and death is life", "Pain is love, and love is pain." Another example is one used on Cathy O’Brien, where the words "Service Entrance" were used to mean "Serve us. En-Trance." Naming an alter "Allison Wonderland" - a pun on Alice in Wonderland -is another example of a programming pun. The programmers love to use these types of things.



Kathleen Sullivan-Unshackled

One of the most upsetting things they made us do there was to use sharp knives to gut teddy bears they had given us, in a big shower room in the back, left side of the building. (Sections of the building were given alphabetical codes-A,B,C, and so on.) The teachers also used modeling clay to fashion life-sized heads with faces, then taught us how to assault the faces with our fingers and hands-especially goughing the eyeholes.

Interview with Kathleen Sullivan (http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/3890)


brown.

[hunkahunka]

Great , that Bohemian Grove menu poster that I recently posted has
been yanked offline, within a couple of hours of me linking to it in
this thread! Here is the cache of the original page that I found it
on:

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:hoVqOWw4YuMJ:content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/ft5n39p07z/%3Flayout%3Dmetadata%26brand%3Doac+bohemian+club+m enu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca


From the creators of South Park, this 1996 film:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_the_musical

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_IGcPoXkEPio/R4-lGJvx6KI/AAAAAAAAAnA/BD4ZPsh_oOI/cannibal_the_musical_poster_01.jpg

http://www.devioustheatre.com/wp-content/uploads/cannibal_final.png

[ozgur]

there is nothing do with Cia or Fbi in Curt Kobain murder. Its something to do with Courtney Love. I always believe that she is the responsible for it.

[hunkahunka]

I found this review of the documentary about serial killer Robert Berdella,
called 'Bazaar Bizarre' (don't bother ordering it. I've seen it and this
review is spot on)

http://chud.com/nextraimages/may21bbcover.jpg
DVD REVIEW: BAZAAR BIZARRE


The Pitch

"A smear campaign on a serial killer."

The Humans

Writer-of-many-thing James Ellroy (LA Confidential) functions as de facto host, with appearances by those involved with the case of Robert Berdella � journalists, cops, and the one man who escaped from the killer's home.

The Nutshell

Robert "Bob" Berdella was not a nice man. He coaxed or abducted young men into his house, where he performed torturous "experiments" on them, noting various effects down on sheets of loose-leaf paper. He tried out Drano injections to the larynx, various electrical stimuli, and filling orifices with paste and caulk. When he tired of such sciences, he sexually abused the boys.

On what police suspect was his sixth victim, he made a mistake with the restraints. The boy, Chris Bryson, escaped and told the police what had happened to him. Berdella kinda lost out on his fun, after that.


Gene Wilder sez, "No. Wait. Stop."

The Lowdown

Just glancing at the cover of his disc, it's a bit hard to determine what type of film it is. Documentary? Dramatization? On-the-cheap horror? Nothing explicitly states that what you're about to watch is a non-fiction bit of propaganda in the guise of a documentary. Just to clear up semantics, here, I'm using propaganda to mean a rigidly single-minded argument with small presence � if any � of countering evidence.

The thesis of Bazaar Bizarre is very simple: Bob Berdella was a sack of shit. This is a thesis so simple that you wouldn't think it would take long to convince the audience of its truth; but you know those audiences, always questioning evidence. What kind of shit? What is the capacity of this sack? The audience demands satisfaction.

So what do the filmmakers, primarily writer/director Benjamin Meade, provide us with? An hour-and-a-half of footage designed to convince we skeptical viewers that a notorious serial killer was not a good person.

Okay, so there's the potential argument that Bazaar is designed to try and blow away some of the fascination audiences have with serial killers. We love stories about them, true or not. The trouble is that the filmmakers are actually contributing to Berdella's mythology by focusing so much attention on him.

I don't buy that there was any agenda for this film, other than to spread the word that Berdella wasn't a cool guy, because its construction is so single-minded. There's no nuance to the interviews or the context of key segments. It's just a straight-line march from here to lynching land. Along the way, you'll be treated to kitschy music videos (featuring novelty songs about Berdella,) venomous interjections by James Ellroy, and poorly-shot and -acted dramatizations of the crimes. Heavy-handedness abounds!

The only places where the filmmakers didn't force their grubby mitts are the occasional interview segment. There are a couple worth nothing: those with Chris Bryson, the escaped victim, who recounts in detail some of the tortures that Berdella put him through, as well as the particulars of his escape. Alongside all the efforts to dehumanize Berdella, this interjection of humanity is pretty damn refreshing. The other interview of note is with a doctor at a Kansas City hospital who recalls having performed penis reattachment surgery on Berdella multiple times, which meant it was unlikely that he could experience any sort of sexual pleasure at all.

This new wrinkle in Berdella's character is flattened out almost immediately by a return to the over-earnest Ellroy, who reminds us once again that Berdella was a Bad Man. But this infatuation, this continuous demonizing, removes all weight from Ellroy's condemnations. Every sequence in the film adds to the man's myth, while the ostensible intent of the film is to destroy the memory of him.

Skip this unnecessary celluloid bile, unless you're the type of guy who gets a thrill when people get what they deserve. If you want a true-crime documentary, rent Capturing the Friedmans. The filmmakers of Bazaar Bizarre are too concerned with being judge, jury, and executioner of the man's character to be taken seriously.

4.5 out of 10
********************

what struck me after reflecting on this review, and having seen the video myself, is that the movie was designed to pin the whole thing on Berdella
and remove any doubt that he was the only person involved.
That was the sole purpose of creating this film. They wanted to create a fascination with the INDIVIDUAL the crimes were pinned on, thereby completely concealing the cult aspects of these crimes.
Because Berdella was just too normal, too mainstream, middlecass, connected, and they had to do something to demonize him, and distance him from the group of people that he ended up taking the fall for. Oddly, no mention is made in this film of the numerous people who voluntarily posed for Berdella with the victims, and were photographed by Berdella while participating with the victims in bondage scenarios. Why was this not in the film? None of the people were charged, ostensibly because they were tricked by Berdella into coming over for sex with the bound and gagged captives.
Have to wonder what really happened , and what their relation to this occult activity really was.

[onourwayto2012]

aaahh... the lone nutter again

[hunkahunka]

http://www.newswithviews.com/Betty/Freauf31.htm

A June 30, 2003 Letter to the Editor in the New American stated the New York Times once reported that the leading U.S. serial killers are homosexuals, to-wit: Donald Harvey (37 murders), John Wayne Gacy (33 murders), Patrick Wayne Kearney (32 murders), Dean Corll, Elmer Wayne Henley and David Owen Brooks (27 murders each) and Juan Corona (25 murders.) Not mentioned in the article were Bruce David (28 murders), Stephen Kraft (16 murders); William Bonin (14 murders) and the infamous Jeffrey Dahmer of Milwaukee with 17 murders.

wonder how many of them were boy scouts/military, members of cults, and victims
of monarch programming

[hunkahunka]

Patrick Wayne Kearney was a gay serial killer, lived with a gay army veteran,
worked as an engineer for Hughes Aircraft (military aircraft contractor)
and murdered , mutilated, drained , wrapped and bagged 32 people:
(no one knows what happened to their heads)

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/predators/patrick_kearney/1_index.html

Have to wonder if there is more to this story than the public is allowed to know.

[hunkahunka]

Donald Harvey was a gay, ex-airforce serial killer who lived with his male lover, underwent electroshock therapy at a psychiatric institution, and murdered at the very least 37 people (confessed to 70 murders) , and was known to own occult books and guns:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/weird/donald_harvey/1.html

[gman]

Okay, who watched the premiere last night?

http://www.nbc.com/My_Own_Worst_Enemy/

One man. Two very different lives.

Henry Spivey (Christian Slater) is a middle-class efficiency expert living a humdrum life in the suburbs with a wife, two kids, a dog, and a minivan. Edward Albright is an operative who speaks 13 languages, runs a four-minute mile, and is trained to kill.... Henry and Edward are polar opposites who share only one thing in common—the same body. When the carefully constructed wall between them breaks down, Henry and Edward are thrust into unfamiliar territory where each man is dangerously out of his element. My Own Worst Enemy explores the duality of a man who is literally pitted against himself, a la Dr. Henry Jekyll and Mr. Edward Hyde. And it raises the question: who can you trust when you can't trust yourself?

The characters' first names match those of the two dueling spirits that shared a body in Robert Louis Stevenson's novella "Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde." In that story, kindly Dr. Henry Jekyll's alter ego is the violent, lecherous Mr. Edward Hyde.

It fits in with a lot of what we discuss here on this board. The character has been part of a government program to create a split personality to act as the perfect cover for an agent.

The first episode is currently free on iTunes, Amazon Unbox, and Zune Marketplace.

[hunkahunka]

Okay, who watched the premiere last night?

http://www.nbc.com/My_Own_Worst_Enemy/
It fits in with a lot of what we discuss here on this board. The character has been part of a government program to create a split personality to act as the perfect cover for an agent.

good post, here is the trailer for the series:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU6DcldNuqY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5HPcWebl5A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoMnwZiTJ54&NR=1
it looks like they are trying to slowly ease society into learning about these
dark secrets on mind control.

[hunkahunka]

http://houstorian.wordpress.com/files/2007/03/dean_corll.thumbnail.jpg

Dean Corll was a gay ex-soldier, who with his ex-boyscout boyfriend Wayne Henley, tortured, raped, murdered at least 27 young/teenaged males.
He had a coffin sized box with air holes cut into it located in a shed in his back yard, in which was found blood and hair.
http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/dean_corll.htm


question:
In 1976, Houston authorites announced that investigations of child pornography had linked other local pedophiles with Corll's murder ring, but no prosecutions were planned. Did any prosecutions take place?

answer (Wayne Henley) "I've no idea, and wish someone would investigate this."

question:
Were others involved with Corll besides Brooks, and yourself?

answer: (Wayne Henley) "Most police agencies believe there are more bodies and maybe more accomplices. I tend to agree, although I have no personal knowledge of either one or the other."

[uboslav]

This is very interesting stuff. I would not put it past the alphabet agencies to pull something like murdering kurt cobain.
Has anyone ever read the "committee of 300"....It explains how rock was engineered by the powers that be, including the rolling stones, the Beatles and I'm sure much more as time goes on.

After putting a little thought into it i would say he was definitely manipulated and controlled by them. His death was probably planned. I hate speculating, but man that's a good one to speculate over!

[astrochicken]

History of Rock and the flower power revolution from a satanic mindcontrol perspective. (http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/)

Fascinating read.

[halebox]

When a rock star is ready to quit and give it all up which it sounds like he was, he is worth a whole lot more dead thus becoming a legend with an infinite shelf life.

[hunkahunka]

http://www.esotericgoldendawn.com/tradition_questionsgd.htm#5


QUESTION:
Is the classical Golden Dawn connected with the Rosicrucians?

ANSWER:

We must distinguish between Rosicrucian organizations, such as AMORC, and the Rosicrucians themselves. Golden Dawn Orders are not connected with any other organization such as AMORC. It is an outer school for an active Second Order that is a mystical descendent of the Rosicrucians.
It was about the year of 1610 that an important document entitled the "Fama Franternitatis of the Meritorious Order of the Rosy Cross" was revealed. This was a document that was first distributed among German occultists, and it eventually found its way across Europe.

It was in this important document that the outside world learned of a secret Order that taught the Hermetic and Christian Mysteries as well as the Holy Qabalah and masterful methods of healing etc.. In addition, the public learns for the first time of the founder, Frater C.R.C. or Christian Rosenkreutz, his mystical tomb or vault and the discovery of it.

It was in 1615 that a second document was revealed. This manifesto was entitled, "The Confessio Fraternitatis." This document seems to go into even greater detail about the Order.

The third document that is part of the Rosicruscian enlightenment is an alchemical document entitled, "The Chemical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz". This document contained much sublime and hidden material that is important from an inner alchemical point of view.


Because of the strict work and valuable secrets of the Rosicrucian lodge, it slowly became tradition that its members were recruited from Freemasonry. In other words, Freemasonry became the Outer Order for a well hidden Inner Order called the Brotherhood of the Rose and Cross.

Later, this Freemasonry Outer Order would be replaced and refined with an outer vehicle that taught more pertinent information and that also accepted women on an equal basis. This outer vehicle became known in Brtain and America as the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn..

For more information on the Rosicrucians and the connection to the Golden Dawn, read a document entitled, "The Truth About the Cipher Manuscripts" available on the Golden Dawn Home Page. This document illustrates a very possible connection between the German Rosicrucians and the Second Order Adepti of the historical Golden Dawn.


http://www.crystalinks.com/gaguidestones.jpg
the Georgia Guidestones (built by the Rosicrucians)

http://www.crystalinks.com/gaguidetablet.jpg
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000, in perpetual balance with nature

[emerald]

Shooting near Detroit high school kills 1 student

DETROIT – A gunman stepped out of a sport utility vehicle and shot four teenagers on a primary-school lawn near their Detroit high school shortly after class let out Thursday, killing one of them, police said.

Three teenagers were arrested at their homes about five hours after the shooting near Henry Ford High School, Deputy Police Chief James Tate said. The male suspects are 15, 16 and 18, and the 16-year-old is a student at the high school, Tate said.

One suspect and one victim had fought earlier in the day at the school, he said.

Christopher Walker, 16, was pronounced dead at Providence Hospital, a spokesman said. He was an 11th-grader at Henry Ford, Detroit Public Schools spokesman Steve Wasko told the Detroit Free Press and The Detroit News.

A 15-year-old female student was being treated at Providence for a gunshot wound, Wasko said. A 16-year-old male 10th-grader and another 16-year-old boy no longer enrolled at Henry Ford were being treated at another hospital, Wasko said.

All three were in serious condition, said Wasko, who did not return calls from The Associated Press on Thursday night.

Jamile Barber, 31, said he was sitting in his house across the street from the high school when he heard a noise about 3:15 p.m.

"I thought something was smacking up against the house — pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," Barber said. "Then I heard girls screaming and I saw 100, 200 kids running back toward the school. From there it was just chaos, people screaming and scrambling around."

Barber said he saw "two bodies, stiff and not moving" on the lawn outside the Michigan Technical Academy campus for pre-kindergarten through second grade, next to the high school.

"I saw people running down there, trying to give aid," he said. "The police and ambulances got there pretty fast."

Witnesses told police the gunman stepped out of a car that had stopped at a corner, fired the shots and got back into the car before it sped away, Tate said.

Police recovered a black Mazda SUV in which witnesses saw the suspects riding, but they had not recovered any weapons, Tate said. He said at least seven shell casings from an automatic weapon were found.

It wasn't known whether anyone was inside the Michigan Technical Academy at the time. The high school is on a busy street in a neighborhood of well-kept brick ranch houses and clean, tree-lined side streets.

Barber, who grew up on Detroit's east side, said he moved there in July with his two daughters.

"It seemed to be a pretty good neighborhood," he said. "But now I've been hearing it's one of the worst schools in Detroit. People told me, 'You just wait till school starts.'"

A community meeting to discuss the shootings was to be held Friday at the school, and Barber said he would attend. "I just want to know what's going on."

[emerald]

KEEPING ON FUCKING UP...

Ryan O'Neal Denies Drug Possession

Latest: Actor Ryan O'Neal has hit back at Los Angeles law officials who've charged him with felony drug possession - insisting the paraphernalia found in his home belonged to his son.

The actor and his 23-year-old son Redmond were arrested at their Malibu, California home last month after police discovered narcotics on Redmond's person and in Ryan's bedroom during a raid.

Redmond was also charged with two misdemeanour counts of possession of drug paraphernalia and one misdemeanour count of illegal possession of pepper spray, according to TMZ.com.

O'Neal's lawyer Mark Werksman tells the New York Daily News: "The drugs in the house were Redmond's. They weren't Ryan's. He doesn't use drugs. This is really painful for him. Dealing with Redmond's addiction has been the bane of his existence. Ryan is very upset about this, as you can expect."

But Los Angeles Country's District Attorney spokesperson Sandi Gibbons adds: "We would not have filed the charges if we did not think the evidence supported them."

Both men are scheduled to be arraigned on 13 November.

[onourwayto2012]

History of Rock and the flower power revolution from a satanic mindcontrol perspective. (http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/)

Fascinating read.
It certainly is!!! It pretty much shatters all the innocence and optimism that people feel or felt about 60's rock. A MUST READ IMO, especially for 60's music fans.

[hunkahunka]

http://houstorian.wordpress.com/files/2007/03/dean_corll.thumbnail.jpg

Dean Corll was a gay ex-soldier, who with his ex-boyscout boyfriend Wayne Henley, tortured, raped, murdered at least 27 young/teenaged males.
He had a coffin sized box with air holes cut into it located in a shed in his back yard, in which was found blood and hair.
http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/dean_corll.htm


question:
In 1976, Houston authorites announced that investigations of child pornography had linked other local pedophiles with Corll's murder ring, but no prosecutions were planned. Did any prosecutions take place?

answer (Wayne Henley) "I've no idea, and wish someone would investigate this."

question:
Were others involved with Corll besides Brooks, and yourself?

answer: (Wayne Henley) "Most police agencies believe there are more bodies and maybe more accomplices. I tend to agree, although I have no personal knowledge of either one or the other."

this Dean Corll case particularly reminds me of the Paul Bonacci/Johnny Gosch scenario. There are some parallels. First, Corll used the adolescent Henley and Brooks to help him lure and procure adolescent aged boys, the same way Paul Bonacci says he was used to lure Johnny Gosch
and others. Bonacci also mentioned involvement the production of child/snuff pornography, the same way Corll has been linked to a child porn network. Also, Corll is ex-military, and Bonacci mentions helicopters, Bohemian Grove and the Offut air force base.
Another interesting angle is that child killer John Joubert was air force, and murdered boys around the Offut air force base, has been linked as a suspect in the Johnny Gosch case because he abducted, sexually assaulted, and murdered a paper boy the exact age that Johnny Gosch had been, anf was, himself, a boy scout.

[hunkahunka]

More on the railroad connection to this mystery:




Donations to Franklin through the Union Pacific Foundation made the Union Pacific Railroad one of Larry Kings biggest corporate backers. Its individual leaders, like former Pacific chairman John Kenefick, deposited funds at Franklin.

According to reports out of Omahas homosexual community, the old Harriman family railroad overlaps other areas with King. "The company is well known for two things at the top: homosexuality and freemasonry", said one knowledgeable person.

Is there a tradition or obligation of homosexuality among top Union Pacific executives?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0f/Union_Pacific_Logo.svg/100px-Union_Pacific_Logo.svg.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Union_Pacific_Railroad_system_map.svg/300px-Union_Pacific_Railroad_system_map.svg.png
The Union Pacific Railroad (NYSE: UNP), headquartered in Omaha, Nebraska, is the largest railroad network in the United States.



The Legislatures Franklin committee heard testimony from a former Franklin employee, implicating two Union Pacific executives in the recruitment of young kids for Larry Kings friends. Robert Andersen, the pedophile whose brutality was so heavy-handed that even the Douglas County jury mentioned (but did not indict) him, worked for Union Pacific.

So did the foreman of the grand jury! The Douglas County panel was headed by citizen Michael Flanagan, an employee of Union Pacific Railroad for 27 years. Given that Union Pacific personnel were implicated in the matters under consideration, there would have been a conflict of interest for any UP employee sitting on the grand jury. In the case of Flanagan, there was more to it than that.

In the summer of 1990, while the Douglas County grand jury was sitting, I received a call from a person who identified himself as an executive at Union Pacific headquarters in Omaha. He declined to give his name, saying, "I am too old to start over. I have too much vested in a good salary, position, and pension. But I do not feel I can sit idly by."

He defended Union Pacific as a company that was good to its employees and, he thought, good for the country. But it has been taken over by a homosexual element, which tolerated, condoned, and encouraged a code of sexual conduct he felt was abhorrent. Even this would be no ones business, he said, unless it was imposed on people, using the power of UP in Omaha and Nebraska.

At first, I thought the man might be trying to make an issue of some minor homosexual relationship, and I told him I was not interested in bashing homosexuals. I said that I did not care what adult men did with their sex lives, so long as they do not abuse and hurt children. I could have told him, but I did not, that my own brother had died of AIDS in California just the year before. My brother was a homosexual; he was also one of the best human beings on the planet.

My callers carefully chosen words quickly dispelled the notion that he meant insignificant incidents, and let me to ask, "Are you talking about the head of Union Pacific, Mr. Walsh?" While the information he provided satisfied me that my concern about Walsh might well be valid, the caller made it clear that this was not the immediate point of his contacting me.

What he had to say, was that the foreman of the grand jury had committed impropriety of such a nature and degree, that Union Pacific had to reach a private financial settlement to protect him.

"I believe, if you will check out a former very young male Union Pacific employee named Pike, said my caller, you will discover that Mr. Flanagan made improper sexual advances upon him, and he complained to Union Pacific officials. A financial settlement was reached by Union Pacific and the young male individual was paid a substantial sum of money by Union Pacific to keep quiet, go about his business, and find other employment."

I began to investigate, and found the facts accurate. Here is how they were summarized in a lawsuit, filed by me on behalf of Paul Bonacci:

"The Grand Jury Foreman, Michael Flanagan, should not have been allowed to be Grand Jury Foreman because he himself, Michael Flanagan, had been recently involved in an incident in which he, Michael Flanagan, was accused of pandering and in which he, Michael Flanagan, and his Company, Union Pacific, had reached a civil settlement to suppress such incident and satisfy the demands of the individual making the complaint against him. Thus, the Grand Jury Foreman was being literally asked to indict other individuals whom Bonacci was indentifying for the very things that he, Flanagan, had been accused of and reached civil settlements to avoid like indictment and prosecution."

Through Flanagan, the suit also charged, Union Pacific was directing the grand jury:

"Further, Flanagan himself violated his Grand Jury duties by sharing Grand Jury information with other individuals, including lawyers and others he met with on a regular basis almost every day following Grand Jury proceedings at Union Pacific Headquarters in Omaha, and receiving advice and guidance from them on how to proceed in the Grand Jury proceedings and providing them information on the supposedly secret Grand Jury proceedings themselves."

Union Pacific Railroad was owned by Edward Harriman.


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The sons of Harriman the Union Pacific Railroad baron,formed Brown Bros. Harriman. It's all family business with the Lovetts. Judge Lovett was partner in UPR and Lovett's sons work as directors at Brown Brothers Harriman and all are Bonesmen (the CIA was founded by Bonesmen from
Skull & Bones, a homosexual occult secret society).

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I got so excited about finding this audio link, I posted it before I even listened to it.
It turns out to be a subscription only link (oh well, it still deserves the exposure, imo)

audio interview:

Send in the Clowns - with Meria & Dave McGowan

http://meria.net/2008/history/send-in-the-clowns-with-meria-dave-mcgowan/

August 22, 2008

A new episode of “Send In the Clowns” with co-host Dave McGowan. The Laurel Canyon story continues; every nafarious group in conspiracy circles passed through; PNAC crowd; Rolling Stones & Laurel Canyon; Satanism & the Stones; Sonny Bono’s “death”; Marlon Brando’s family murder/suicides; Ricky Nelson’s strange plane crash; Elvis partial connection to Laurel Canyon; Is he really dead? Was Jim Morrison’s death faked? Phil Hartman and Laurel Canyon - his pal “Squeaky Fromm”; Who killed John Lennon? John Beluschi and Bob Woodward? John Denver-Roswell-EST; Harry Nilsson; Tim Hardin’s death; Who was Albert Wohlstetter? Vito the freak and the Rockefellers; and more.

Listen:
http://meria.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/082208.mp3


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B18991 / Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:55:24 / Human Rights

The Pedophocracy, Part III: Uncle Sam Wants Your Children

By David McGowan

(McGowan is the author of Derailing Democracy and Understanding the F-Word,and is also the administrator of the website The Center for an Informed America)


Toward Freedom, May 1998

One of the names raised at the Bonacci trial was that of Michael Aquino. Aquino is the ‘High Priest’ and chief executive of the Temple of Set, an overtly satanic cult that split off from the Church of Satan in 1975. Besides tending to those duties, Aquino also has occupied his time serving as (according to an official biography once circulated by the Temple) a “Lieutenant Colonel, Military Intelligence, U.S. Army.”

Aquino was accused in court by the mother of a victim as being a key player in a nationwide pedophile ring. Paul Bonacci himself has also positively identified Aquino as an associate of King, known to the children only as ‘the Colonel.’ King’s personal photographer has identified Aquino as the man to whom he saw King hand over a suitcase full of cash and bonds.

The photographer, Rusty Nelson, also has said that King told him that Aquino was part of the Contra guns and cocaine trafficking operation run by George Bush and another notorious Lt. Col., Oliver North. Aquino has also been linked to Offutt Air Force Base, a Strategic Air Command post near Omaha that was implicated in the investigation by the Franklin Committee. He was also claimed to have ordered the abduction of a Des Moines, Iowa paperboy.

This was certainly not the first time that Aquino had been implicated as a key figure in large scale pedophile/child pornography rings. In July of 1988, not long before the King and Spence cases broke, the San Jose Mercury News ran a lengthy exposé on the Presidio Child Development Center run by the U.S. Army in San Francisco.

Allegations of abuse being perpetrated at the center first emerged in November of 1986. Alarmed by accusations made by her child, a parent had sought a medical examination which confirmed that the three-year-old boy had in fact been anally raped. The boy identified his rapist as ‘Mr. Gary,’ a teacher at the center named Gary Hambright.

Even with the conclusive medical evidence, “it took the Army almost a month to notify the parents of other children who had been in ‘Mr. Gary’s’ class that the incident had taken place.” Within a year, at least sixty victims had been identified, all between the ages of three and seven, and further “allegations would be made by parents that several more children were molested even after the investigation had begun.”

Amazingly enough, the center remained open for more than a year after the first case of abuse was reported, though the Mercury News noted that “day care centers under state jurisdiction are routinely closed when an abuse incident is confirmed.” And this was considerably more than a simple abuse incident that was confirmed.

The stories told by the children implicated many other perpetrators besides Hambright. They also told of being taken away from the center to be abused in private homes; at least three such houses were positively identified. They also told of being forced to play “poopoo baseball” and the “googoo” game – ‘games’ that involved the children being urinated and defecated upon, and being forced to ingest urine and feces.

Many of them also spoke of having guns pointed at them and of having been told that they and/or their parents and siblings would be killed if they told anyone what had been done to them. Despite the mounting number of victim/witnesses, and the numerous crimes alleged by these children, it was only Gary Hambright who was arrested – on January 5, 1987 – and he was charged with abusing just a single child. And even then the charges were dismissed just three months later, in March of 1987.

There is little doubt that literally dozens of children were in fact severely abused at the center. There was irrefutable medical evidence to document that fact. Five of the children had contracted chlamydia, a sexually transmitted disease; many others showed clear signs of anal and genital trauma consistent with violent penetration, which authorities chose to ignore. One mother complained to the San Francisco Chronicle that the FBI never interviewed her or her son, even after doctors had confirmed the boy’s abuse.

There were unmistakable psychological signs as well. As The American Journal of Orthopsychiatry noted in April of 1992: “The severity of the trauma for children at the Presidio was immediately manifest in clear cut symptoms. Before the abuse was exposed, parents had already noticed the following changes in their children: vaginal discharge, genital soreness, rashes, fear of the dark, sleep disturbances, nightmares, sexually provocative language, and sexually inappropriate behavior. In addition, the children were exhibiting other radical changes in behavior, including temper outbursts, sudden mood shifts, and poor impulse control. All these behavioral symptoms are to be expected in preschool children who have been molested.”

The journal article, written by Diane Ehrensaft, Ph.D., also noted that: “The Presidio case has confronted both the public at large and the mental health community with an extraordinary and abhorrent situation of grave psychological proportions: the willful molestation of young boys and girls by representatives of the most patriarchal and supposedly protective arm of the American government – the U.S. Army.”

The article further noted the nearly homicidal rage provoked in the fathers of the children abused in this way, as they saw the investigations of the crimes perpetrated against their children stonewalled and covered up. One father is quoted as saying: “When something about the Presidio comes on TV, I want to blow someone away.” Another father echoed this sentiment: “I was ready to blow the army base away.”

One of those who the fathers would have liked to blow away was Michael Aquino, along with his wife Lilith. One child positively identified the pair, known to the kids as ‘Mikey’ and ‘Shamby,’ and was also able to positively identify the Aquino’s home and to describe with uncanny accuracy the distinctively satanic interior of the house. The young witness also claimed to have been photographed at the Aquinos’ home.

On August 14 of 1987, a search warrant was served on the house. Confiscated in the raid were numerous videotapes, photographs, photo albums, photographic negatives, cassette tapes, and name and address books. Also observed was what appeared to be a soundproof room. Neither Aquino nor his wife were charged with any crimes, nor have they been to this day – a fact that Aquino claims proves his innocence.

The next month, a fire – which the Army deemed to be accidental – destroyed the Army Community Services Building adjacent to the Presidio’s day care center. Strangely enough, “the fire occurred on the autumnal equinox, a major event on the satanic calendar,” as the Mercury News noted. The fire also destroyed some of the center’s records.

“Three weeks later, fire struck again, this time at the day care center itself.” A building that housed four classrooms, including that of Gary Hambright, was completely destroyed. Investigators from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms determined that “both fires, contrary to the Army’s finding, had been arson.”

In between the first and second fires (with evidence indicating that a third arson attempt had been made as well), Hambright was again indicted, this time charged with molesting ten children. In February of 1988, all but one of the charges were dropped. Shortly thereafter, the remaining count was dropped as well, and Hambright was a free man once again. No further charges were brought against him.

In January of 1988, Aquino filed suit against the Army to have it cleared from his record that he had been investigated as a suspected pedophile. According to court records, he also had the gall to charge “Captain Adams-Thompson [the father of a victim] with conduct unbecoming an officer because the Captain reported the allegations of child abuse to the San Francisco police.”

In denying Aquino’s motion, the court concluded that “there was probable cause to title Aquino with offenses of indecent acts with a child, sodomy, conspiracy, kidnapping, and false swearing,” despite the fact that “the San Francisco police department (SFPD) closed its investigation and filed no charges against the plaintiff or anyone else.”

Aquino and various of his defenders have consistently claimed that no one was ever prosecuted in the case due to a lack of evidence – proof that the entire affair was no more than a ‘witch hunt.’ Of course, the failure to prosecute the federal charges could also be due to the fact that, at the time, the U.S. Attorney in San Francisco handling the case was Joseph Russoniello.

Russoniello would later be identified by reporter Gary Webb of the San Jose Mercury News as a player in the Contra cocaine smuggling operation led by Lt. Col. Oliver North and company, just as witnesses would later identify Lt. Col. Michael Aquino as an operative in the very same sordid affair. It always helps when your legal ‘adversaries’ are actually on your side.

In May of 1989, Aquino was again questioned in connection with child abuse investigations; this time at least five children in three cities were making the accusations. The children had seen Aquino in newspaper and television coverage of the Presidio case and immediately recognized him as one of their abusers.

Three of the children lived in Ukiah – former home of the People’s Temple – where Police Chief Fred Keplinger was overseeing the investigation of the allegations. The Mercury News quoted the chief as saying that “the children are believable. I have no doubt in my mind that something has occurred.” Aquino was also identified by children in Santa Rosa and Fort Bragg.

In the Fort Bragg case, “allegations of ritual abuse erupted … in 1985 when several children at the Jubilation Day Care Center said they were sexually abused by a number of people at the day care center and at several locations away from the center, including at least two churches.” Aquino was identified as having been at one of those churches.

The Mercury News also reported that there was clear evidence of satanic cult activity on the grounds of the Presidio base, including an abundance of satanic graffiti, a satanic altar, and numerous artifacts of satanic rituals. A former MP at the base is quoted as saying: “We were sitting there, we’ve got a cult on the Presidio of San Francisco and nobody cares about it … We were told by the provost marshal to just forget about it.”

On April 19, 1988 – the eve of Adolf Hitler’s birthday, and seven years to the day before the Oklahoma City Federal Building would explode, allegedly due to an act of ‘domestic terrorism’- an open-house was held on the grounds of the Presidio heralding the opening of the new day care facility built to replace the fire-damaged Child Development Center.

As a final note on the Presidio case, a report in the Marin Independent Journal revealed that Aquino owned a building in Marin County – inherited from his mother, Betty Ford-Aquino – that had been jointly leased to the Marin County Child Abuse Council and Project Care for Children. The stated purpose of Project Care was, interestingly enough, to assist parents in locating day care for their children.

As disturbing as the Presidio case was, it was just one of many ritual abuse cases directly tied to one or more branches of the United States armed forces. As the Mercury News reported: “By November, 1987 the Army had received allegations of child abuse at 15 of its day care centers and several elementary schools. There were also at least two cases in Air Force day care centers,” and another in a center run by the U.S. Navy.

In addition, “a special team of experts was sent to Panama [in June of 1988] to help determine if as many as 10 children at a Department of Defense elementary school had been molested and possibly infected with AIDS.” Yet another case emerged in a U.S.-run facility in West Germany.

These cases erupted at some of the most esteemed military bases in the country, including Fort Dix, Fort Leavenworth, Fort Jackson, and West Point. Many of those making the accusations were career military officers who had devoted their lives to unquestioned allegiance to the U.S. armed forces. Many would resign their posts in outraged protest.

It would be redundant to review all these cases, as most of them followed a remarkably similar pattern. Given though that West Point is America’s premier military academy, and given also that the case – like many others – was linked by witnesses to the Presidio, a brief review is warranted here.

As The Times Herald Record reported in June of 1991: “The incidents [at the West Point Child Development Center] unfolded against a backdrop of satanic acts, animal sacrifices and cult-like behavior among the abusers, whose activities extended beyond the U.S. Military Academy borders to Orange County and a military base in San Francisco, parents charged.”

The case first broke in July of 1984, when a three-year-old girl found herself in the emergency room of the West Point Hospital with a lacerated vagina. She told the examining physician that a teacher at the day care center had hurt her. The next month, the parents of another child leveled accusations of abuse at the center.

As the Mercury News reported: “By the end of the year, 50 children had been interviewed by investigators. Children at West Point told stories that would become horrifyingly familiar. They said they had been ritually abused. They said they had had excrement smeared on their bodies and been forced to eat feces and drink urine. They said they were taken away from the day care center and photographed.”

Despite abundant medical and psychological evidence, and literally dozens of child witnesses, and despite “950 interviews by 60 FBI agents assigned to the investigation, an investigation led by former U.S. Attorney Rudolph Giuliani produced no federal grand jury indictments,” according to the Herald Record.

The Herald also noted that: “In 1987, Giuliani said his detailed investigation showed only one or two children were abused.” This was, it should be noted, a bare-faced lie from the fascistic future-mayor and would-be Senator, as the Herald report divulged: “a still-secret, independent report – produced by one of the nation’s top experts on child sexual abuse – confirms the children’s accusations of abuse.”

This was not the first time that the prestigious academy had shown an appalling willingness to overlook extreme levels of abuse directed at children by army personnel. A year before the abuse case broke, a 22-month-old child was murdered by an Army staff sergeant. The Mercury News reported that: “After a court martial hearing, the sergeant was given an 18 month suspended sentence and dishonorable discharge.”

In other words, he served no time and was essentially given a free ride for murdering a child. With help from Giuliani, the FBI, the U.S. Army, and the grand jury, the abusers of countless children at the day care center (which was, appropriately enough, building number 666 on the academy grounds) were likewise given a free ride.

As with the Franklin case, the children and their parents were to find justice only through the civil courts. The Herald Record reported that: “lawyers for both the government and the 11 child plaintiffs agreed that some children were sexually abused at the center two years ago” (again contradicting Giuliani’s bogus conclusions). The government, however, claimed that it could not be held responsible, due to the “assault exemption in the Federal Tort Claim Act.”

As the New York Times explained: “under federal law the government cannot be held liable for assaults committed by its employees and thus cannot be sued for assault.” In other words, the Army did not dispute the allegations, it just rather cavalierly maintained that it was exempt from being sued. The court saw otherwise and awarded $2.7 million to nine of the child victims – paltry compensation for their suffering, but a victory of sorts nonetheless.

The Times opined that the settlement amount “was large for a child-abuse case in which no criminal charges were filed.” The article claimed that the failure to prosecute the case was due to the fact that “the Federal Bureau of Investigation found ‘insufficient evidence to prosecute,’” when in fact the Bureau appears to have deliberately ignored and/or covered-up that evidence.

And so ended the West Point case, except that – as one mother noted – it was hardly over: “These people stole our children. She’s nothing like she used to be. She’s a very angry little girl. She doesn’t trust anyone. She’s nothing like she was before this happened. It’s never going to be over for them, or for us.”

The mother of a Presidio victim had this to say: “People keep telling us we’ve got to let it go — just forget about it and go on … Three weeks ago, our youngest daughter was having nightmares and our other daughter was closing out the whole world, going to her room and siting there, with no radio, no TV, no nothing. Tell me it’s over.”

“I cannot accept promotion in a system that at first refused to acknowledge and now refuses to deal with the victims of extensive child abuse that occurred at the West Point Child Development Center.”

Army Captain Walter R. Grote, refusing a promotion to Major in June 1985. Grote referred to his protest as a “fight for the human rights of all children.”


“It should come as no surprise, then, that long-time CIA and ‘intelligence complex’ operatives turn up on the FMSF Advisory Board. Perhaps the most public member has been Dr. Louis Jolyon ‘Jolly’ West, a legendary figure in CIA mind control circles operating out of UCLA. Another is Dr. Martin Orne, an authority on torture who currently works at the University of Pennsylvania’s Experimental Psychiatry Lab … Still another false memory luminary is Margaret Singer, professor emeritus at the University of California-Berkeley.”



REFERENCES:

1. Al-Kurdi, Husayn “Messing With Our Minds,” Toward Freedom, May 1998
2. Arce, Rose Marie “Liability in Point Abuse Case Debated,” The Times Herald Record (Middletown, New York), December 23, 1986
3. Blood, Linda The New Satanists, Warner Books, 1994
4. Cunningham, Douglas and Alan Snel “A Legacy of Pain: Settlement Doesn’t Ease Abused Children’s Fears,” The Times Herald Record (Middletown, New York), June 11, 1991
5. DeCamp, John W. The Franklin Cover-Up, AWT, Inc., 1992
6. Ehrensaft, Diane “Preschool Child Sex Abuse: The Aftermath of the Presidio Case,” The American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, April 1992
7. Goldston, Linda “Army of the Night,” San Jose Mercury News, July 24, 1988
8. Goldston, Linda “Satanic Priest Questioned in New Sex Case,” San Jose Mercury News, May 13, 1989
9. Hays, Constance L. “$2.7 Million Settles Army Child-Abuse Case,” New York Times, May 23, 1991
10. Sawyer, Kathy “Army Doctor Turns Down Promotion; Lax Response to Case of Child Abuse Cited,” Washington Post, June 25, 1985
11. Steinberg, Jeffrey “Satanic Subversion of the U.S. Military,” EIR, July 2, 1999
12. “Army Doctor Refuses Promotion in Protest,” San Diego Union Tribune, June 25, 1985
13. “The Keys to Hell and Death – Part II,” SFLR News (the newsletter of San Francisco Liberation Radio), May 21, 2001
14. Michael Aquino v. The Honorable Michael Stone, Secretary of the Army (Civ. A. No. 90-1547-A), United States District Court, Alexandria Division, July 1, 1991

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the latest Alice in Wonderland themed film,
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Phoebe In Wonderland
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1034325/
The fantastical tale of a little girl who won't - or can't - follow the rules. Confounded by her clashes with the rule-obsessed world around her, Phoebe seeks enlightenment from her unconventional drama teacher, even as her brilliant but anguished mother looks to Phoebe herself for inspiration.
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and the latest Disney flick
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Enter the magical world of fairies and meet the enchanting creatures of Pixie Hollow, who "nurture nature" and bring about the change of the seasons. Changing the colors of the leaves, moving a sunbeam to melt snow, waking animals from their winter slumber, or giving a patch of sproutlings a sprinkle of water are all within the realm of these seasonal specialists. Tinker Bell thinks her fairy talent as a "tinker" isn't as special or important as the other fairies' talents. But when Tink tries to change who she is, she creates nothing but disaster! With encouragement from her friends Rosetta, Silvermist, Fawn and Iridessa, Tink learns the key to solving her problems lies in her unique tinker abilities... and discovers that when she's true to herself, magical things can happen.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0823671/

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Beyond the Dutroux Affair
http://www.isgp.eu/dutroux/Belgian_X_dossiers_of_the_Dutroux_affair.htm

The reality of protected child abuse and snuff networks

"What you have to understand, John, is that sometimes there are forces and events too big, too powerful, with so much at stake for other people or institutions, that you cannot do anything about them, no matter how evil or wrong they are and no matter how dedicated or sincere you are or how much evidence you have. This is simply one of the hard facts of life you have to face."
- Former CIA director and Cercle member William Colby giving advice to his friend senator John DeCamp, urging him to quit his investigations into the Franklin child abuse affair and to write a book about his experiences (The Franklin Coverup, 2nd edition, foreword).

"From East Belfast's Kincora Boys' Home, via Leicestershire, Staffordshire and London, to the children's homes of Clwyd, we have witnessed 25 years of cover-up. Cover-up, not to protect the
innocent but to protect the regularly named elements of the British establishment who surface whenever widespread evidence of child abuse is exposed. From the public schools right through to the Catholic and Anglican churches, child abuse has been allowed a special place of sanctuary... Social workers, police, security services, local and national political figures remain the common factors in the fall-out from the [child abuse] inquiries... In case after case the cycle is described - a child is 'taken into care', then abused in a home, handed on to an outside pedophile ring and out on to the rent-boy/prostitution circuit beyond, if they live that long... Journalists find themselves battling first with authority, then with the libel laws, to publish the truth about a vast web of abuse."
- June 6, 1996, The Guardian, 'True scandal of the child abusers'. These lines were written by the author of the article and are not quotes.

"I look at him [inspector De Baets], and I really want to believe him, but somewhere, I know that I will never make it. The people I have known are too powerful, too influential, too untouchable. I realize that; the investigators not yet."
- Victim-witness Regina Louf (X1) from Belgium describes her thoughts when she first began to testify in secret in September 1996 (1998, 'Zwijgen is voor Daders,' p. 203).

"Imagine, everywhere you hear that story about a blackmail dossier in which organizations of the extreme right are in the possession of pictures and videos on which a number of prominent people in and around Brussels have sex with young girls; minors it is said. The existence of this dossier has always been vehemently denied. Until it was proven that testimonies and videos of this affair indeed were in the possession of the police services. An officer of the judicial police (Marnette, H.G.) denied the existence of these videos, while afterwards this person's superior admitted that they did exist, that they were kept with the judicial police in Brussels, but that they were completely worthless. Strange, because this stuff needs to be deposited with the registrar and not be kept in the possession of some police service. Subsequently, examining magistrate Jean-Marie Schlicker confirms that this dossier does indeed exist, but that he wishes not to give any testimonies about it. The at first non-existing dossier turns out to exist. The videos without substance then turn out to be interesting enough after all to be handed over to the examining magistrate tasked with the investigation into the Gang of Nijvel. But this person subsequently is afraid to testify about that! What do you think that has been going on here?"
-September 1989, Congressman Hugo Coveliers, secretary of the special investigating committee tasked with evaluating the way gangsterism and terrorism is combated in Belgium (1988-1990), to Humo magazine (1990, Hugo Gijsels, 'De Bende & Co', p. 133-134). Coveliers became a senator in 1995.

"When I saw in how much trouble he got [sergeant Michel Clippe, who had convinced her to testify] and how my own dossier evolved, I decided to quit. In any case, even back then you could already see how the people surrounding De Baets were collectively being stonewalled. They didn't stand a chance."
- Victim-witness X2, a police officer. Because of her job she recognized many judges and attorneys among her former abusers. Certain names and details were also given by X1 and other witnesses (1999, 'De X-dossiers', p. 321).

"Only very few reporters are still listening to me, listen to my cry for help. They are not allowed to publish or broadcast. They all tell me that they are stonewalled by their bosses... The aggression of some of the magazines, newspapers and tv programs is frightening. This is not normal anymore, this is a war in which the victims have become disposable waste."
- Victim-witness Regina Louf (X1) about the media's reaction to the initially open-minded reports about the X1 case by De Morgen and Panorama in January 1998 (1998, 'Zwijgen is voor Daders,' p. 257).


Foreword

A number of Dutch and French language books have appeared on the Dutroux affair since 1996, with one standing out above the rest. This is the generally hard-to-get 1999 book 'The X-Dossiers', written by respected investigative journalists Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck, Annemie Bulté and Douglas De Coninck. Page after page they explain how the most important aspects of the whole Dutroux investigation, in which Dutroux ultimately became a minor detail, were manipulated and finally discarded. The book presented the most powerful case possible for a massive cover up. However, there was one thing the authors couldn't do and that was to publish the names of those who had been accused by a whole range of witnesses. The reason is obvious: if the authors would have published these names they would have been paying damages for the rest of their lives.

A lot of information in this article can be found in the book 'The X-Dossiers', with the primary difference being that all the names of the alleged abusers have been included. This has become possible because the Dutroux dossier, including the testimonies of the X-witnesses, were leaked to a number of reporters in the late 1990s. Both the final Dutroux dossier, which has largely been sanitized from any important information, and a summary of official reports from August 1996 to May-June 1997 have been used by this author to verify the claims made in a number of books and to find out the identities of the alleged abusers. Seeing the names and reading the biographies can be quite a shock initially, but it will also clarify how a cover up of this magnitude was possible.

The power of the Dutroux affair and its X-Dossiers is that it will enable anyone to see how a state can be controlled and undermined by a cabal that is able to place its own members in crucial positions in any investigation that might lead to its own exposure. The question of why the majority of the media is so cooperative is the only aspect that cannot be fully explained in this article, although it can be shown that the media is willingly working with official investigators in manipulating and debunking all aspects of an investigation that are not appreciated by the cabal.

Some might find it unethical to publish the names of mere suspects, especially when talking about child abuse. The author fully agrees with this argument, but only under normal circumstances in which an investigation is carried out the way it should be. This has not happened in the Dutroux affair, in which the honest, competent and dedicated researchers, together with the most important witnesses, have unjustly been persecuted, harassed, tarred and feathered by the media and the judiciary, with help from some of the alleged child abusers. That's why the investigation, which has been dead and buried for many years now, should be taken public. And let's not forget that the X-Dossiers involve a whole range of witnesses whose claims overlap and in many cases involve highly specific details that have been verified by detectives. It can also be argued that the mainstream press was anything but discrete in late 1996 when they published the names of the politicians Elio Di Rupo and Jean-Pierre Grafe as alleged child abusers. The evidence these claims were based on was meager to say the least and many times less powerful than the combined testimonies of the X-witnesses. But, of course, the purpose of this event was not to inform the public; it was an effort to discredit the rumors about high level involvement in child abuse networks. It was known that sooner or later the X-witnesses would reach the news and this was one of the pre-emptive strikes against these witnesses.

Several appendixes have been attached to this article. Most of these appendixes, which include long lists of accused, victims, investigators and apparently assassinated, were more or less finished before a beginning was made with writing this article. It has actually taken about 1,5 years to fill in all the biographies and translate the necessary passages of all the Dutch and French sources used, but this was definitely worth the effort as it gave tremendous insight in what has been going on in Belgium since the late 1970s, and provided some perspective to reports that have come from the United States and elsewhere. It might be the last thing you'd expect from a country with only ten million inhabitants, but Belgium's history of internal subversion takes quite a while to get through.


Where things began: Dutroux's reign of terror

In the afternoon of August 13, 1996, progress was finally made: a number of individuals were arrested on strong suspicions that they had been responsible for a wave of kidnappings of young girls. Within days these suspicions were backed up with solid evidence, but the arrest of Dutroux and some of his associates turned out to be only the beginning of the biggest scandal in Belgian history.

The media attention had begun in June 1995 with the disappearance of two 8 year old girls, Julie Lejeune and Melissa Russo. Almost exactly two months later, the 17 year old An Marchal and the 19 year old Eefje Lambrecks went missing. Additional media attention was drawn to the latter case as the last thing these girls did was visit the show of Rasti Rostelli, a prominent magician, in which they had been hypnotized. Needless to say, the affair ended the career of the magician, even though he had almost immediately been cleared as a suspect. In late 1995, the BOB (Belgian FBI and branch of the gendarmerie) largely ceased to investigate the case. However, the disappearance of An and Eefje remained prominent, because a foundation named Marc & Corinne, set up several years earlier and named after two teenagers who had been brutally murdered, used its limited funds to spread posters of the girls' faces all over Belgium and the Netherlands. In the end this made no difference; the girls weren't found, nor those responsible, and in May 1996 history repeated itself. This time the 12 year old Sabine Dardenne disappeared, and again the BOB was unable to find the kidnappers or the girl. People became more worried for their children with every kidnapping. Confidence in the police and judiciary, traditionally already quite low, began sinking to new depths.

Things changed later that year. On Friday, August 9, 1996 the 14 year old Laetitia Delhez disappeared in Bertrix, a town located in the district of Neufchateau, near the border of France and Luxemburg. Michel Bourlet, prosecutor of the king in Neufchateau, was tasked with the case and appointed examining magistrate Jacques Langlois to coordinate the investigation. When Langlois left for vacation the following Monday, Bourlet replaced him with his close colleague Jean-Marc Connerotte. The latter duo had already become well known in 1994 for not being allowed to solve the murder on Andre Cools, a socialist politician.

The same monday that Connerotte took over from Langlois, BOB adjutant Jean-Pierre Peters reported a breakthrough in the investigation. Of the several dozen tips, two turned out to be very useful. Two witnesses had seen an old white van driving around Bertrix the day Laetitia disappeared. In one of these two cases a student was afraid the driver of the van was planning to steal his bike. As luck would have it, the 22-year-old had a passion for cars and reported to the police the exact type of van and a good chunk of its license plate, as the first three letters reminded him of the name of his sister. In no time Dutroux's name, a known pedophile, came out of the computer. A crisis meeting was held in Bertrix that evening and the following day Dutroux, his wife Michele Martin, and his sidekick Michel Lelievre were arrested. In the following days their testimonies led to the retrieval of two girls, Sabine and Laetitia, in Dutroux's basements. Belgium's case of the century was about to begin.

Failure to catch Dutroux
In the following months and years details came out about the failure of the police and BOB to catch Dutroux in an earlier stage. Although usually not presented in such a way, most of these rather odd failures can be ascribed to BOB officer Rene Michaux.

As head of Operation Othello, a surveillance operation against Dutroux from August 10, 1995 to January 1996, he practically knew everything there was to know about this already convicted, violent pedophile. From all sides evidence was presented to him that Dutroux not only had kidnapped Julie and Melissa, but also An and Eefje. However, Michaux ignored evidence presented by such informants as Claude Thirault, to whom Dutroux had mentioned how to kidnap young girls and how much you could get for them; Dutroux's mother, who had gathered evidence from her son's neighbors that he was likely involved in the kidnappings; and police officer Christian Dubois, who early on was on the trail of the gang of Nihoul, which would immediately have led to Dutroux.

In between all these reports, the video cameras aimed at Dutroux's Marcinelle home as part of Operation Othello failed to register Dutroux bringing in An and Eefje on August 22, nor would Michaux's team notice Eefje's failed escape attempt on August 25, in which she briefly climbed out the bathroom window to shout for help. An and Eefje were taken out of the house in September and murdered.

When finally forced to search Dutroux's Marcinelle home for reasons not related to the kidnappings, Michaux decided to ignore the voices of two young girls, seemingly not even trying to get a response from them. He also didn't think that Dutroux's odd L-shaped basement, with one wall much newer than all the others, was reason enough to tear it down, nor did he recognize the significance of such items as vaginal cream, a speculum, chains, and a videotape with the name of a program on it dealing with missing children. Two other videos which would have shown Dutroux working on his basement and him raping a 14 year old girl were returned to Dutroux's wife, apparently without having been reviewed by his team. This failure of properly searching Dutroux's home apparently led to the death of Julie and Melissa, who are believed to have died from starvation in Dutroux's basement. It also led to the kidnapping of Sabine and Laetitia after Dutroux got out of jail in March 1996.
In August 1996, after Dutroux had been arrested on suspicions that he had kidnapped Laetitia, Michaux led another three hour search in Dutroux's Marcinelle home where at that moment Sabine and Laetitia were located. Needless to say, Michaux not only failed to find
the girls, which could possibly have led to the release of Dutroux, he also hadn't noticed the letters Sabine had hidden under Dutroux's carpet. Luckily, the location of the girls would be pointed out by Dutroux 48 hours later, after it had become clear to him there was no way out this time, especially not with his lackey Michel Lelievre spilling the beans.

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Rene Michaux, one of the world's most incompetent police officers.

These failures of Michaux led to strong criticism from the parents of An Marchal, who went to inspect Dutroux's basement themselves. The parents of Melissa Russo filed an official complaint against him. When Bourlet criticized Michaux in 2004 over his failure to even find Sabine's letters, and seemingly implied this might not have been unintentional, Michaux could only react by calling Bourlet a "liar" and stating that "he sure wouldn't have found Laetitia under the carpet." These intellectual replies were soon followed by threats to sue for libel. Michaux's extreme incompetence was rewarded with a new position as a local police commissioner.

Following is a brief recap of Dutroux's life and how extraordinarily incompetent the judiciary had to be to allow him to go on kidnapping girls.

* Dutroux's had a long history of physically abusing women.

* Convicted in November 1988 for kidnapping, photographing, torturing and raping five girls between the age of 11 and 19. Also convicted for torturing an older woman by putting a razor in her vagina. He tried to force her into giving him money.

* In April 1992, PSC Minister of Justice Melchior Wathelet approved Dutroux's release from prison. Although it is normal in Belgium to be released after a third of the sentence has been served out, many in the system who worked with Dutroux did not agree with this decision. Dutroux was known to them as a manipulative psychopath without any regrets for his crimes. In fact, he never even admitted to them. Interestingly, Wathelet would be accused in the X-Dossiers of being a violent child abuser himself, together with some of his known proteges and associates (1).

* After his release, Dutroux received an unusually large amount of sleeping pills and sedatives from his doctor, which he would later use to quiet the girls he abducted (2).

* In his house in Marcinelle, near Charleroi, where he lived most of the time, Dutroux began constructing a concealed dungeon in the basement. In early 1993, the unemployed, small-time criminal Claude Thirault, who rented one of Dutroux's homes, was hired by Dutroux as a handyman to install water drains beneath one of his newly-bought houses. Although Thirault thought this was a bit unusual, he didn't mind doing it. But a few days into the job two girls walked past the house they were working on, prompting Dutroux to remark to Thirault: "If you want to kidnap them, you'll make 150,000 franks [about 4000 euro]... Grab them from behind, put a sedative drug under their nose, pull them into the car, and lock the doors." (3) Dutroux went on to explain how he had plans to abduct girls, lock them up in his basement and transport them abroad (4). Thirault, an occasional police informant, went to the police, and as a result Dutroux's houses were searched some months later, in December, the official reason being that he was suspected of a car theft. The police officers noticed Dutroux's modified basement, but did not find any girls. His house was searched again in June 1994 and it appeared to the officers that he had stopped working on the basement.

* In June 1995, Dutroux was sued for having illegally widened an opening to his basement in an effort to put in a venting tube (5).

* Thirault went back to the police after Julie and Melissa had disappeared to remind them of Dutroux's ideas about kidnapping girls and the modifications to his basement. The police got back to Thirault a few days later and asked him if he had some more solid evidence, apparently needed if the house of this known pedophile was to be searched (6).

* On June 24, 1995, examining magistrate Martine Doutrewe became head of the 'Julie and Melissa cell', tasked with finding the missing girls. Unfortunately for the girls, Doutrewe left for vacation in Italy within days of being assigned to this post and would not return until early August 9 (38 years old at the time; suffered from cancer and had already planned to recover from an operation; died in 1999; in 1995, her husband was under investigating for having embezzled millions of euros). No other permanent investigating judge was appointed in her place which significantly impacted the efficiency of the entire investigation (7). Doutrewe would never seriously get involved with the BOB operation that was to monitor Dutroux's daily activities. The magistrate also never tried to arrange a phone tap, a search warrant or approval for a financial investigation (8).

* On August 10, 1995, a group of BOB officers began monitoring Dutroux's movements under the code name Operation Othello. A time lapse video camera was used less than 2% of the total observation period (9) and operations were suspended at 10 o'clock each evening (10). The operation was so ineffective that on August 22, Dutroux was able to kidnap An and Eefje and lock them up in his house -completely unnoticed. On August 25, Eefje managed to grab her clothes, crawl out of the bathroom window and shout for help. Although she was pulled back in by Dutroux within seconds, the observers never noticed anything. A few weeks later the girls were taken out of the house -again unnoticed- and murdered. Dutroux was also able to kidnap three teenagers he suspected of having double-crossed him and lock them up in his house without any cameras or observers noticing anything. In addition, Dutroux had murdered Bernhard Weinstein during the period that he was under observation.

* On September 4, 1995, Dutroux's mother, who advised against the 1992 release of her son, anonymously informed Rene Michaux, investigative head of Operation Othello, that the neighbors of Dutroux were very suspicious about his activities. Windows were blackened out, Dutroux was always making noise in the basement, the garden was filled with used car tires, and two girls "of 16 or 18 years old" had recently been seen in his garden. These girls had never been observed during daylight. This information somehow didn't make it to the investigating team that was working on the case of An and Eefje, who were 17 and 19 years old (11).

* On December 6, 1995, Dutroux was arrested for having been involved in stealing a truck and kidnapping and torturing three teenagers he suspected of having restolen the vehicle (one of the teenagers had escaped and informed the police). Under the leadership of gendarme officer Rene Michaux, Dutroux's homes were searched on December 13 and again on December 19. One or more children were heard crying by Michaux and the locksmith (this person did not know anything about Dutroux being a suspect in the kidnapping of girls) accompanying him. They went to look in the basement, which clearly had a whole section which had recently been modified (12), but couldn't find anything, leading Michaux to conclude that the voices must have come from outside (13). The parents of Julie Lejeune, one of the children that was locked up there at the time, would later prove that normal communication was possible with someone locked up in one of the cells (14). Additionally, during the December 13 search of Dutroux's basement, Michaux found vaginal cream, chloroform, a speculum (medical instrument used to dilate bodily orifices) and chains, which to him were no cause for alarm. Videos were confiscated, which showed Dutroux working on his basement and raping a number of (unknown) girls. On one of the tapes the text "Perdu de Vue, Marc" was written, a reference to the tv program 'Lost From Sight' which dealt with missing children, and on which Julie and Melissa had also featured. Michaux and team never watched the tapes and gave them back to Dutroux's wife, Michele Martin (15).

* In the afternoon of December 13, after the disastrous search in Dutroux's Marcinelle home, Michaux met with police officer Christian Dubois. Both had been working on a recent phenomenon involving occupants of white Mercedesses following and photographing schoolgirls. On this occasion, Dubois informed Michaux that he had an informant who had stated that the white Mercedesses belonged to a pedophile network centered around a company called Achats Services Commerces (ASCO; not to be confused with X1's abuse and snuff factory) located in the Brussels' suburbs. According to the informant, the occupants of the white Mercedesses were putting together catalogs of pictures of children. Their clients could pick one of these kids, which would then be kidnapped, locked up in Belgium for a while, and then exported to eastern Europe or Thailand. The price for each child would be about 7500 euros. During their conversation Michaux told Dubois about Dutroux. Dubois recalled: "I remember that Michaux told me that Dutroux went to countries in eastern Europe... The sums he mentioned for the kidnappings were similar to those given to me by my informant... Even today this still keeps me awake at night. I feel responsible. Afterwards, in 1996, I looked into Dutroux... You just felt it. This was the man we were looking for!" Michaux undertook no action and the Verwilghen Commission would later scratch its head why. ASCO turned out to be a highly interesting company. It was incorporated on July 2, 1991, primarily by Jean-Louis Delamotte, a friend and regular business partner of Michel Nihoul. Nihoul, Bernard Weinstein, Michel Lelievre and Michele Martin (not Dutroux) had all been spotted on a regular basis in the immediate surroundings of the company. People in the neighborhood had also noted that Nihoul was often surrounded by young negro girls and had the impression that these girls were on transit. Five mattresses and some baby milk were found inside the company's headquarters after it had gone bankrupt in 1994. Delamotte's company Soparauto, registered at the same address, owned 5 white mercedesses, all with French license plates, as had been reported (16). Delamotte would later also be pointed out as the thug who intimidated one of the X-witnesses (17) , including the person who had initially looked after this witness.

* On March 20, 1996, Dutroux was released unusually early on "humanitarian reasons"; his wife was about to have a baby. Operation Othello, the program that was monitoring Dutroux's movements, had been shut down in January, because Dutroux was in jail. The operation was not revived after his release.

* In August 1996, Dutroux was finally caught by Michel Bourlet and Jean-Marc Connerotte. Sabine, one of two girls locked in the basement, had hidden letters under Dutroux's carpet. Michaux failed to find them, for which he would be criticized by Michel Bourlet in 2004 (18).

* Even though more than 10 years have passed since Dutroux was arrested on suspicions of having kidnapped Laetitia, largely because of Michaux it is still somewhat of a mystery how many videos were confiscated in late 1995 and in August 1996 (19). Initial reports after Dutroux's arrest stated that the justice department was in the possession of more than 300 videos (20); within several weeks this number was upped to 5,000 videos. Reports that Dutroux's accomplices, including a number of high level officials, could be seen on these tapes also began to appear (21). In the end, this seems to have been a huge exaggeration (22), even though the exact amount of videos remains a bit of a mystery (23). Most estimates today are below 100, and only a portion of these videos appear to have shown Dutroux abusing young girls.

Nihoul

One of the most important reasons for speculation about a network has been Michel Nihoul. This person had been arrested on August 16 after the investigators of Bourlet and Connerotte found out that on August 10, one day after Lelievre and Dutroux had kidnapped Laetitia, Nihoul had supplied Lelievre, free of charge, with 1,000 XTC pills. The original investigators immediately suspected that these pills served as a payment for the kidnapping of Laetitia, suspicions which were only fueled when Nihoul was unable to provide an alibi for August 8 (24), the day when at least 8 witnesses claim to have seen Nihoul in Bertrix at and around the location where Laetitia would be kidnapped the next day. Additionally, some of these witnesses claimed to have seen Nihoul in the presence of Dutroux (or his van), who was carrying out an initial surveillance that day (25). Both Dutroux's wife Michele Martin and Michel Lelievre specified that Dutroux, at least in some cases, kidnapped girls according to specific wishes of clients. Martin stated that one of these clients was Michel Nihoul.

Michele Martin, Dutroux's wife: "I have heard Marc personally telling Lelievre that he should bring a girl for Michel Nihoul. If I haven't mentioned that before, that is because I'm afraid of that gang, I mean Nihoul, Marc Dutroux and others in Brussels. I mean well-placed individuals who Nihoul knew. The connections of Nihoul made me fear for my children and myself... I was afraid, because Jean-Michel Nihoul, Marc Dutroux and Michel Lelievre were part of a gang that was involved in all kinds of business, like drugs, pills, girls and forged papers [PEHI note: for which Nihoul would later indeed be convicted, just as human trafficking]. I have to say that at the time of the kidnapping of Sabine and Laetitia, Michel Nihoul, as I already stated, often called to Sars, to my home. He was looking for Marc Dutroux. He didn't call for me. When Nihoul tried to reach Marc he always remained vague. I never knew why he called so often to Marc Dutroux. Over time I became more and more convinced that Marc Dutroux and Jean-Michel Nihoul did things that couldn't stand the light of day and which I was not supposed to know about." (26)

"By the way, Marc told me that he went more and more to Brussels and met an increasing number of people in light of his activities with Michel Nihoul... Nihoul always gave me the impression that he had many connections that he could count on. Marc Dutroux told me that Nihoul had taken care of many of Lelievre's problems: he had prevented that he was arrested, he had worked out his fines and solved his money problems. Marc had accurately sensed that he would benefit from continuing to see Nihoul, because of his connections and those of his wife, the lawyer. The more they saw each other, the more they opened up of course. I think that at a certain moment a mutual trust was built. I see evidence of that in a conversation between Lelievre and Marc that I coincidentally heard and in which Dutroux said that they had to bring back a girl for Nihoul. I think that Jean-Michel had influence on Marc Dutroux. Marc often told me that he was impressed by the connections Nihoul had."

Michel Lelievre: "Marc always told me that he kidnapped girls for people who had placed an order with him. When he came out of prison in March 1996, I asked him who did the orders when he was in jail. He answered me that somebody else did that and that he certainly wasn't the only one. When we went to pick up a girl, Marc wanted that she corresponded with the order,small hips. He gave me a description of the girl that we were looking for. [One day] I asked him why they [An and Eefje] were still with him even though he claimed he had an order. He told me that the people who had placed the order had come, but that they weren't interested in them... Dutroux explained me that he conditioned the girls to be obedient and submissive when they arrived at customers..." (28)

"I would like to reveal other things about Jean-Michel Nihoul, but I don't want that these testimonies are taken up in the dossier. As I said, I fear for my life and those around me. I remind you that Nihoul told me the following: 'if you cross me, I will destroy you'. With those words he made it known to me that he would kill me or have me killed."

Although convicted for financial fraud, drug- and human trafficking due to an overwhelming amount of evidence (30), Nihoul ultimately was acquitted from charges that he was involved in the kidnapping and murder of any of Dutroux's girls. However, to anyone who has taken an in depth look into
the case, it's clear that a whole lot of leads had to be ignored and discarded before this conclusion could be reached (32), raising two important questions: How, and why?

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Michel Nihoul, Dutroux's apparent link to the upper echelons of the network. Found guilty by the jury, before it was overruled by the presiding judges (31). Nihoul is the ultimate example of an unscrupulous villain, but for some reason he has enjoyed the protection of many magistrates and media outlets.

Victim-witnesses come forward

Probably the most important (and underreported) thing that happened in the aftermath of the Dutroux affair was that a number of victims from pedophile networks felt that this was their once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to testify about what they had experienced. Until Connerotte and Bourlet were able to arrest Dutroux and Nihoul, and retrieve two missing girls, these victim-witnesses did not know who in the Justice Department they could trust. Many of these victims already had tried to speak to the authorities, but investigations never got off the ground. The victims knew the reason: among their abusers were the most powerful men in Belgium: police commissioners, gendarme officers, judges, bankers, businessmen, politicians and high nobility figures.

Not all, but most of these victims who came to Neufchateau to testify about "the network" were designated with an X, followed by a number. Although some of these women later on turned out to have known each other from the network, at the time they decided to testify to Neufchateau none of them had been in contact with each other for many years. Their interviews were conducted separately and they did not have access to each other's testimonies. A short introduction to each victim follows (33).
X1 Born in 1969. Abused and neglected by her parents. When 2 years old, sent to her grandmother in Knokke, who owned a hotel-villa that was used as a brothel for high-level pedophiles and sadists. Pedophile videos were also shot here. Introduced to her pimp, Tony Vandenbogaert, at age 4 who began to take her to other locations for sexual abuse and torture. Sent back to her parents in Gent in June 1979 for a variety of reasons. Extremely neglected by her parents for several months until her old pimp showed up again. For years she was taken to abuse- and torture parties. Managed to hook up with a boy she fell in love with, married, and immediately moved out in 1988, which appears to have saved her from ending up in a snuff movie. Never managed to break away completely from the network. Sometimes when her husband left the house for a few days to work as a truck driver, her pimp and some of his associates would show up and take her with them to locations where children were abused. On these occasions she was raped herself or had to participate in abuse against others. X1 was diagnosed with MPD/DID.

Nathalie C. (X7) Born in 1969. Contacted by the BOB after testimonies from X1. First denied knowing anything about X1. It soon turned out that she was heavily traumatized and probably had MPD/DID. After having been brought in for an interview she began to speak about her father, how he sexually abused her, and how he liked to mutilate her sister with cigarettes. She then confirmed that she had been X1's best friend, that she knew about the sexual relationship with Tony and that she had been forbidden to go to the first floor of the hotel-villa of X1's grandmother. The interviews were cancelled by later investigators. X4 identified X7 as a girl who was forced to play in pedophile movies.

Chantal S. Born in 1968. Another woman contacted by the BOB after testimonies from X1. Immediately knew what it was about. Sexually abused by her parents. Her grandmother was into Satanism. Moved with her parents to Knokke at age 6 and was sometimes brought to the hotel-villa of X1's grandmother. Here she also was sexually abused, although she didn't have to endure the extreme torture sessions that X1 regularly underwent. Confirmed that one of the abusers indeed was nicknamed "Monsieur". Had seen X1 being threatened with a revolver by her grandmother. Like X7, she was forbidden to go to the first floor. Chantal's testimonies resulted in a verbal fight between her husband and parents, in which her father admitted to have brought her to X1's grandmother. Tried to commit suicide and was taken up again in a mental institution. X4 identified Chantal also as a girl who was forced to play in pedophile movies.

X2 Police officer who worked on an aspect of the Dutroux investigation. When the X1 case was discussed during a meeting, participants noticed that she seemed very upset. After discussing her history of child abuse with one of her superior officers she decided to become a witness. X2 had ended up as a mistress to a magistrate in Brussels and later to a higher level officer and spokesperson of the Justice Department who was a member of the Rotary. These two men were part of a network in which she was abused from the mid- to late 1980s. X2 was spared from the extreme torture sessions, but heard other girls speak about child murders and was present at a hunting party on children, which is something other Xs have also spoken about. Some of the abusers and locations where this abuse was going on turned out to be the same as mentioned by X1 and other Xs. Withdrew as a witness when she saw that the investigation was being sabotaged, something which didn't surprise her.

X3 X3 had been in the network a long time ago, from 1950 to 1962. From age 3 to 12, she had been severely abused and tortured at home, together with her sister. After that age, her father and his influential group of friends brought her into the network. She described the same elements as other X-witnesses, although the scale of one of the meetings she described is hard to accept without any of the other witnesses backing up the practices at this specific location (some of those involved were in fact mentioned by others). Before contacting Neufchateau, X3 had already written anonymously about her experiences with child abuse and she was well respected for her work with other child abuse victims. It took five interviews before investigators wrote anything down, and even after writing summaries of her testimony it was attempted to leave out the royal family as much as possible - an unwritten rule in Belgium, because the king, in theory, can't be prosecuted.

X4 Born in 1965. Like X1, X4 had been persuaded by a friend to testify. As a young child she was loaned out by her mother to a pimp named Jacques V., who produced SM movies with children. Her story largely paralleled that of X1, although X4 experienced everything from within different sects. She recognized two childhood friends of X1 who had been abused, and named some of the same perpetrators as the other witnesses. X4's parents turned out to live next to a villa where X1 claimed a friend had been abused to such an extend that she died.

Nathalie W. Born in 1965. With support from her therapist she gave her first testimony to the gendarmerie in February 1996, six months before the Dutroux affair. The officer who interviewed her refused to write down an official report. In July 1996, she found two other gendarme officers who were willing to work with her. Nathalie told how she had been raped by her father, a member of the Rotary, since the age of six. Soon thereafter brought into the network and was abused by her father's friends at parties in different villas in the region of Waterloo. When 10 years old, handed by her father to a prince and his main aide, who continued to take her to different abuse parties in Belgium. Confirmed X1's story about the Les Atrebates club, Nihoul and Tony. In turn, X1 recognized Nathalie as a girl from the network and accurately placed her at Les Atrebates. Even though Nathalie confirmed aspects of X1's story, she was easily discredited by her new interrogators, as she not only suffered from extreme psychological trauma (MPD/DID), but also from pathomimie, which is a tendency to inflict physical harm to one's own body in order to play the victim. This last psychological quirk seemed to have surfaced mainly after her original interviewers were replaced by two extremely abusive ones (like would happen with X1). She couldn't handle this pressure and quit testifying in March 1997. Nathalie was severely persecuted for having dared to step forward with her story, maybe even more than X1.

VM1 A gangster who came to Neufchateau in February 1997. Told how he had been brought up in a children's home in Mont-Saint-Guibert. From age 9 to 13, he was regularly picked up from this home by a local juvenile judge who brought him to abuse parties in villas around Brussels. Said that he later worked as a child prostitute in Le Mirano, an elitist club visited by some of the same men that featured in the testimonies of other victim-witnesses above, including Nihoul. Within two days of his supposedly secret testimony, VM1 was stopped on the streets and threatened with death.

Notice how these victims ended up in the network: instead of having been grabbed from the streets, they were brought in by their own families, or, in one case, taken from a children's home.

At least in western Europe, the idea of a lonely pedophile grabbing children from the street only seems applicable in a relatively small amount of cases (especially permanent abductions). There's a significant amount of evidence that a lot of child abuse happens within networks consisting of degenerate families and their acquaintances (34), which are exploited and protected (really for reasons not fully understood) by people higher up in the food chain (35). Children in the network often are forced to bring in other children (36). The new ones are then controlled through certain psychological routines involving threats, shame and guilt (37).

Although victim-witnesses often report having witnessed many murders in these networks, including children from western Europe, data about child disappearances and deaths is very uncategorized and therefore very inconsistent (38). As for the whole of Belgium, estimates range from "at least" 43 disappearances between 1973 and 1996 (39) to as many as 1,022 in one year, with the D.A.'s office in Brussels claiming that approximately 280 children a year go missing in just Brussels alone (40). Also, if victims from these networks or some of the above numbers are correct, the obvious conclusion is that the media is not paying attention to many, if not the majority of child disappearances and deaths, which, in case of the British media, seems to be the true (41).

One interesting aspect many victim-witnesses from different countries have testified about is a very similar psychological approach used to allow the victims of even the most sadistic abuse to function (somewhat) in society, therefore not raising any really alarming questions in the immediate surroundings of the child. We are referring here to the encouraging and maintaining of Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) in the victims (42). MPD has these days been renamed to Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). It basically is a psychological disorder in which the mind and the memory of the victim is shattered in ten, hundred, or possibly even a thousand different sub-personalities, making testifying extremely difficult and a very long term process. Several X-Dossier witnesses still heavily suffered from this disorder at the time they began to testify.

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Questioning the alters

Although a one hundred percent confirmed psychological disorder, MPD/DID remains quite controversial in the public's eye (for those who even heard about it). It's true that DID is a complex disorder and sometimes hard to wrap the mind around (pardon the unintentional pun). But this is largely the result of a lack of information, and if any of the politically correct arguments are stripped away, the real underlying reasons for the controversy become quite simple.

First of all, DID is intrinsically linked to the most extreme sexual and psychological abuse against children. In 97 to 98 percent of the DID cases, victims talk about having been sexually abused since a young age (43). It's not uncommon for DID patients to give details about abuse that sound so bizarre, horrifying and huge that, no matter what the evidence, will take some time and repeating for the average person to accept as even a possibility. Protected child abuse and -torture networks involving well known individuals would be a primary example of that.

The second reason is that these networks are protected by those involved, who apparently have the power to make sure that very little information on these networks appears in the public domain. Additionally, a rather small, but very influential group of "skeptics", organized around the US-based False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF), have been doing a counter-attack since the early 1990s when reports of ritual abuse became a little bit too widespread (44). This group has done everything in its power to convince the public and the psychology community that all DID is created by incompetent psychologists. Because of an incorrect way of asking questions, these psychologists would have inserted certain "false memories" in their patient's minds. Even though more than a dozen board members of the FMSF have been accused of child abuse themselves, have come out in favor of pedophilia, or have a past in mind control research for a whole range of intelligence agencies (45), virtually no mainstream media ever felt the need to consistently point that out. As might be expected, Dutch and Belgian supporters of this FMS Foundation couldn't resist an attempt to discredit X1 with textbook disinformation tactics (46).

But even though FMS Foundation supporters have tried to muddy the waters somewhat, every textbook psychology book makes a clear distinction between DID and schizophrenia. The latter is characterized by delusions, hallucinations and a lack of sense of identity. The different alters of a person suffering from DID, however, all have an identity of their own, and although memory is never 100 percent accurate and there remains the possibility of manipulation, these alters have experienced something traumatic that actually did happen to this person. A brief article on the website of Merck, a large pharmaceutical company, gives one of the best summaries of what Dissociative Identity Disorder actually is:

"Dissociative identity disorder appears to be a rather common mental disorder [other sources say that DID is quite rare]. It can be found in 3 to 4% of people hospitalized for other mental health disorders and in a sizable minority of people in drug abuse treatment facilities. However, some authorities [the FMSF] believe that many cases of this disorder reflect the influence of therapists on suggestible people..."

"Dissociative identity disorder appears to be caused by the interaction of several factors. These include overwhelming stress; an ability to separate one's memories, perceptions, or identity from conscious awareness; abnormal psychologic development, and insufficient protection and nurture during childhood... About 97 to 98% of adults with dissociative identity disorder report having been abused during childhood..."

"... some symptoms may reflect the intrusions of past experiences into the present. For example, sadness may indicate coexisting depression, or it may be that one of the personalities is reliving emotions associated with past misfortunes... People with this disorder are prone to injuring themselves. They may engage in self-mutilation. Many attempt suicide."

"In dissociative identity disorder, some of a person's personalities are aware of important personal information, whereas other personalities are unaware. Some personalities appear to know and interact with one another in an elaborate inner world. For example, personality A may be aware of personality B and know what B does, as if observing B's behavior; personality B may or may not be aware of personality A..."

"Because the personalities often interact with each other, people with dissociative personality disorder report hearing inner conversations and the voices of other personalities commenting on their behavior or addressing them [not to be confused with hallucinations]. They experience distortion of time, with time lapses and amnesia..."

"People with dissociative identity disorder may not be able to recall things they have done or account for changes in their behavior. Often they refer to themselves as "we," "he," or "she." While most people cannot recall much about the first 3 to 5 years of life, people with dissociative identity disorder may have considerable amnesia for the period between the ages of 6 and 11 as well." (47)

X1 suffered from all the symptoms described above, and more. She told how many of her alters still had the same age as when they were created, or how her handwriting differed depending on which alter was active (48). As is obvious from her background of extreme abuse, these symptoms started at an early age. And interestingly, her pimp not only wasn't surprised when he first encountered X1's alters, he actually cultivated them.

"More than ever I discovered that I was missing time. I turned out to have gone to school, get good grades, I even turned out to know several classmates who spoke to me, but somehow this all had gone past me. It seemed as if someone else took over from me as soon as the door of my house closed behind me. It seemed as if the abused Ginie was put away until Tony again stood at my bed or at the school gate. The abused Ginie hardly was aware of school and family life, the other Ginie seemed not present during the abuse, and so lived 'normal'."

"It had always been this way. In Knokke, at grandmother's, the adults had noticed that I talked to the voices in my head, that I often rapidly changed moods, or even began to speak with another voice or accent. Even though I was only 5 or 6, I understood that something like this was weird and that it was not allowed. I learned to hide my voices, my other 'selves'. After what had happened to Clo, the voices, and the bizarre feeling that I at times was led by the inner voices (persons? -sic) got stronger. After the initiation I no longer resisted against the voices. It was blissful to disappear into nothingness, and only to become conscious again if Tony was there. The pain seemed more bearable."

"Tony was the only adult who understood that something was 'wrong' in my head. He didn't get mad about it, but cultivated it. He gave me different names: Pietemuis, Meisje, Hoer, Bo. The names slowly started to become part of me. The strange thing was that if he mentioned a name, the mood that fit that name was immediately called up. Pietemuis [Small Mouse] became the name of the little girl that he brought home after the abuse - a scared and nervous girl that he could comfort by talking to her in a caring and fatherly kind of way. Meisje [Girl] was the name of that part of me that only belonged to him. If he abused me in my bed in the early morning, for example, or if there was no one around us. Hoer [Whore], the name of that part of me that worked for him. Bo, the young woman who cared for him if he was drunk and needed to be looked after."

"'Now you just leave that to me,' he said when I asked him curiously why he gave me so many names, 'daddy Tony knows you better than you know yourself.' That was also true."

Some of X1's other 100+ alters were Kenny, a young alter who had dealt with some of the worst torture; Stone, one of the toughest who answered to Tony and could control her fears; and Moon, born to deal with extreme cold .

Even after years of seeing a psychiatrist, X1 still suffered heavily from MPD/DID when she first contacted the Neufchateau investigating cell in September 1996. It took some time before her interviewers, Patriek De Baets and Philippe Hupez, began to understand how to work with her, but in the end, testifying turned out to be the most effective way to reintegrate X1's mind. This was a long and extremely challenging process though, and not only for X1. At times the long silences and panic attacks almost drove the interviewers crazy. An example of one of the interview sessions:

"... Meisje [Girl] sits on the window sill, saturated with pain and sadness. She feels the presence of the other victims so well that she can almost touch them with her thoughts. Shivering she crawls against the woodwork of the window and presses herself against it as if she wants to disappear in it... Patriek [De Baets] comes standing next to her, leaning against the window sill.
'Who are the girls you still remember, girl?' he asks, coincidentally pronouncing her name [of the active alter, "Girl"].
'Vero, Mieke, Clo, Noelle, Chrissie...' she says fluently, because she remembered every face, every child.
Patriek was perplexed. After such a difficult hearing, all of a sudden he heard his witness, in a young girl's voice, give a series of names that made him silent.
'Are they still alive?'
Meisje [Girl] lifted her shoulders.
'Some are, I think. Others are not.'...
'Who died?' he asked calmly.
'Chrissie,' I whispered.
Patriek asked how.
'They burned her.'
'Where?'
'In a basement,' she whispered even more quiet. And she withdrew deep within herself, fighting against the odor of the liquid that they had poured over her.
And then when he wanted to ask more, she shook her head.
'I want to go home,' she begged. Away from those horrible memories.
But Chrissie didn't leave her head anymore.
Her screams, her begs for help... Tiu [Regina's murdered child]. Everything came together that week, as if time was something malleable, and became alive again as soon as the images were recalled.
My son, whom I had cherished; Chrissie who soon thereafter was gruesomely punished; the screaming in my head. The madness I had felt in the days after. The madness that had started when they... but I refused to let the images come through..."

"Pain? Indeed. It hurt so much that I could only tell via a detour who that day were with Chrissie. It almost drove Patriek and Philippe up the wall. Before them they saw a grown, frightened woman, while they had to communicate with Kenny, the heavily traumatized alter, who had become almost autistic after the death of Tiu and Chrissie. Kenny carried that information with him, but could not speak... stubborn, frightened, evasive, he pushed the questions of the BOB officers away. Only through the support of other alters, who listened along and were located close to him, it was possible for Kenny, stammering and rambling, to tell his story."


A sniff of extreme abuse

DID was created in X1 because of her background of extreme abuse. But what did this abuse actually involve?

First there was the psychological aspect. X1 never received any support or love from her parents, her grandmother, Tony or any of her abusers. Especially Tony and the grandmother, who acted as her pimps, indoctrinated X1 with the belief that she was a nobody, that besides Tony nobody cared about a "little whore" like her, that she was too stupid to become anything else than a prostitute, and that "love" is something you never get for free.

Furthermore, X1 was blamed for just about anything that happened to her, to other children in the network, to her pets, or even to those who abused her. For example, if X1 had given fellatio to her pimp which wasn't satisfying enough, he would beat her up, yelling at her that she was worthless and that it was her fault he was so upset. If X1's abusers found out that she had given out signals of her abuse to the outside world, another girl would be tortured in front of her eyes. During the torture the perpetrators would scream at her that this was all her fault, and would put her face in the other girl's blood. X1 then had to ask forgiveness to the other girl. Even when X1's best friend was raped and murdered in front of her eyes -probably because this girl became too old- she was the one to blame. In most cases X1 was blamed for things she had absolutely no control over. The same thing happened to many other girls in the network. For the abusers it was a way to destroy the victim's self-esteem and confidence, making them perfect sex slaves and objects for sadistic torture.

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caution there are some very disturbing pictures mixed with the rest of the article.

[brown velvet]

Roman festivals - Armilustrium in honor of Mars 19 october

The Armilustrium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armilustrium)was a festival in honor of Mars, the god of war, celebrated on October 19. On this day the weapons of the soldiers were ritually purified and stored for winter. The army would be assembled and reviewed in the Circus Maximus, garlanded with flowers and the trumpets (tubae) would be played as part of the purification rites. The Romans gathered with their arms and armour on the Aventine Hill, and held a procession with torches and sacrificial animals. The dancing priests of Mars known as the Salii may also have taken part in the ceremony.

Armilustrium also refers to a large open space on the Aventine Hill where the festival was held.

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The Aventine Hill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aventine_Hill) is one of the seven hills on which ancient Rome was built. It belongs to Ripa, the twelfth rione, or ward, of Rome.


Ancient and medieval
The Aventine Hill did not become a part of Rome proper until long after the city’s founding. Strabo’s Geography has the Aventine Hill being incorporated into Rome by Ancus Marcius, who ruled from 640-616 BC as the fourth king of Rome, in order to further fortify the city and protect it from invaders. [5] Common Roman mythology believes the Aventine Hill was incorporated into the city of Rome with the building of the Servian Wall during the reign of Servius Tullius, the sixth king of Rome, in the mid-sixth century, BC. The wall itself, however, probably could not have been built before 393 BC when the Romans conquered Veii, which controlled a quarry that produced the specific type of stone of which the Servian Wall is made. Most scholars believe that the wall was built after an invasion and occupation by the Gauls in 387 BC.

The Aventine Hill was a suburb of Rome during the monarchy and early Republic until about 456 BC when a law was passed allowing plebeians to own property on the hill. Thus, the city began to outgrow its walls as it extended onto Aventine Hill and the Campus Martius. This expansion made it much easier for the Gauls to capture Rome. This invasion prompted a new wall to be built incorporating the new areas of the city, including the Aventine Hill.


Modern
During the Fascist period, many deputies of the opposition retired on this hill after the murder of Giacomo Matteotti, here ending - by the so-called "Aventine Secession" - their presence at the Parliament and consequently their political activity.

The hill is now an elegant residential part of Rome with a wealth of architectural interest.

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bundles and bundles of swords and weapons.

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brown.

[brown velvet]

Boy George / Jools Holland British music tv show.


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[hunkahunka]

History of Rock and the flower power revolution from a satanic mindcontrol perspective. (http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/)

Fascinating read.

What amazing information, thanks for posting the link, astrochicken.
Considering that David McGowans research there focuses on the
Laurel Canyon region, roughly in the 1960's and 1970's , one has
to wonder if we now have a microcosmic view of just
a tiny part of a much larger picture. Is this the tip of the iceberg when
it comes to Hollywood and the music industry in general?

[hunkahunka]

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Dean Corll was a gay ex-soldier, who with his ex-boyscout boyfriend Wayne Henley, tortured, raped, murdered at least 27 young/teenaged males.
He had a coffin sized box with air holes cut into it located in a shed in his back yard, in which was found blood and hair.
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quote:
Since Easy Rider had such deep roots in the Laurel Canyon scene, we need to briefly focus our attention here on one other individual who worked on the film: art director Jeremy Kay, aka Jerry Kay. Before Easy Rider, Kay had worked on such cinematic abominations as Angels from Hell, Hells Angels on Wheels (with Jack Nicholson), and Scorpio Rising (Kenneth Anger's occult-tinged homage to gay bikers). In the mid-1970s, Kay would write, direct and produce a charming little film entitled Satan's Children . Of far more interest here than his film credits though is Jerry Kay's membership in the 1960s in a group known as the Solar Lodge of the Ordo Templi Orientis (or OTO), which found itself in the news, and not in a good way, just after Easy Rider opened on theater screens across America. Two weeks after Easy Rider premiered on July 14, 1969, police acting on a phone tip raided the Solar Lodge's compound near Blythe, California and found a six-year-old boy locked outdoors in a 6'x6' wooden crate in the sweltering desert heat. The young boy, whose father was a Los Angeles County probation officer (as was Michelle Phillip's father, by the way), had been chained to a steel plate for nearly two months in temperatures reaching as high as 117° F. According to an FBI report, the box also contained a can "partially filled with human waste and swarming with flies ... The stench was nauseating." Before being put in the box, the child had been burned with matches and beaten with bamboo poles by cult members. The leader of the cult, Georgina Brayton, had reportedly told cult members that "when it was convenient, she was going to give [the boy] LSD and set fire to the structure in which he was chained and give him just enough chain to get out of reach of the fire." Killing the child had also been discussed (and apparently condoned by the boy's mind-fucked mother). Eleven adult members of the sect were charged with felony child abuse, the majority of them young white men in their early twenties. All were brought to trial and convicted. In a curious bit of timing, the raid that resulted in the arrests and convictions coincided with the torture and murder of musician Gary Hinman by a trio of Manson acolytes. Though it is, not surprisingly, vehemently denied by concerned parties, various sources have claimed that Manson had ties to the group, which also maintained a home near the USC campus in Los Angeles. There is no doubt that Charlie preached the same dogma, including the notion of an apocalyptic race war looming on the horizon. The massacre at the Tate residence occurred less than two weeks after the raid on the OTO compound. Manson's Barker Ranch hideout would be raided a few months later, on October 12, 1969 - the birthday, as I may have already mentioned, of Aleister Crowley, the Grand Poobah of the OTO until his death in 1947.


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The second movie on the DVD is Satan's Children. This one was lensed in Florida and is actually a step further down in quality from its co-feature. Troubled teenager Bobby (Stephen White) has a lousy time at home with a jerk of a stepfather and a sexually teasing stepsister making life unbearable. He storms out of the house one night only to be beaten up and gang-raped by gay bikers!

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The bikers dump Bobby near a compound of Satanists who take him in and, under the orders of Sherry (Kathleen Archer), nurse him back to health. Sherry is in control of the commune... uh... I mean coven while their leader Simon is away. She takes a liking to Bobby but others in the group feel he's unworthy of suckling at the Devil's teat. After Sherry tortures a lesbian coven member and hangs several others that disagree with her orders, Simon shows up and punishes Sherry by burying her in the ground to the neck and letting ants sting her.

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Simon then tells Bobby that because homosexuals raped him he is too weak to be a member of Satan's worshipers. Bobby decides to take matters into his own hands, starting with tracking down the biker trash that started this whole mess. This film is truly demented. Hilarious, and seems to have been made by folks with little or no idea of reality or filmmaking. It does reach a wonderful level of twisted sleaze that keeps it fairly entertaining but all the fun to be had is unintentional. Satan's Children is a great example of mid-70s regional filmmaking at its best...or worst, depending on your outlook. Inept, cheap and poorly done on almost every level, it could only be loved by the people who made it — or sick freaks like me!
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Floride International Pictures

[hunkahunka]

http://www.answers.com/topic/military-slang-1

Military History Companion:
military slang

Food and drink feature prominently in slang. A German mobile field cooker was Gulaschkanone (goulash cannon)

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http://www.answers.com/topic/cannon-fodder
cannon fodder
The term derives from fodder - food for livestock - however in this case soldiers are the metaphorical food for cannons.

Origins of the term

The concept of regarding soldiers as nothing more than "food" to be consumed by battle was known at least as far back as the 16th century. For example, in William Shakespeare's play "Henry IV, Part 1" there is a scene where Prince Henry ridicules John Falstaff's pitiful group of soldiers. Falstaff replies to Prince Henry with cynical references to gunpowder and tossing bodies into mass grave pits, saying that his men are "good enough to toss; food for powder, food for powder; they’ll fill a pit as well as better [men]..."

The supposedly first attested use of expression "cannon fodder" belongs to a French writer, François-René de Chateaubriand. In his anti-napoleonic pamphlet "De Buonaparte et des Bourbons", published in 1814, he criticized the cynical attitude towards recruits, that prevailed in the end of Napoleon's reign: "On en était venu à ce point de mépris pour la vie des hommes et pour la France, d'appeler les conscrits la matière première et la chair à canon" — "the contempt for the lives of men and for France herself has come to the point of calling the conscripts 'the raw material' and 'the cannon fodder'."[1]

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[hunkahunka]

http://www.answers.com/topic/sacrificial-lamb
A sacrificial lamb is a lamb (or metaphorical parallel) killed or discounted in some way (as in a sacrifice) in order to further some other cause. In typical modern usage, it is a metaphorical reference for a person who has no chance of surviving the challenge ahead, but is placed there for the common good. The term is derived from the traditions of Abrahamic religion where a lamb is a highly valued possession, but is offered to God as a sacrifice to obtain the more highly valued favour of God


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the Female Bodies as a Skull painting, mounted on a butterfly, appeared near the end of Dali's silent 1928 film Un Chien Andalou:
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[gman]

I was reading Loren Coleman's blog entry about Phantom Clowns (http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2008/10/phantom-clowns-are-back.html) and I found a posting by "Anonymous" that really should be on this thread.

Anonymous said...
After a decade spent in fugitive recovery apprehending fugitive's across America I find myself an extremely paranoid man. Not because of whom I've apprehended, but from what I've witnessed.

What I've not seen nor experienced is anything having to do with the "super/preter-natural;" conclusively, what I have seen and come into contact with are drug/human dealer's/trafficker's, mafia (not so much anymore), ghetto hoodlum's, hit-men, assassin's, serial killer's, etc.

There are over 2 million, yes, 2 million American's who reportedly go missing, each year, under violent circumstances. Two million American citizen's, simply vanished without a trace. Serial killer? Perhap's some. Spree killer. Perhap's some. The only thing my partner and I can come up with is that an organization, either human sex trafficker's, organized cult's, corporate reserach and development org.(s), or governmental program's are responsible.

Ask yourself this question: Where are United States sanctioned assassin's trained? In Russia? Of course not, they're trained here, killing innocent American's to sharpen their skill, etc. in a controlled environment that they control (read government control of media, local law enforcement, first responder's, hospital's, etc.) should something go wrong. Much less private corporate organization's, who invest heavily in research and development of new technologies, are also guilty here as are your lower on the food chain sex slavery ring's and mafia.

I can see it now, a new recruit being made to perform an abduction while disguised as a clown. Training? A conspicuous outfit, in public, at prime times, attempting to "hide-in-plain-sight." Dismiss it, disregard is, disbelief in it won't change the fact: Many government and private corporations kill many American's, every year, for training, research, debt, or slavery. What we consider our society's "worst offender," the serieal killer, as we publicly know them, are but infant children with no direction compared to the REAL serial killer's out there with body count's closer to the hundred's than the ten's.

Is law enforcement, in America, successful? Remember, two million American's missing this year alone under violent circumstances, whose cases will never be solved. ONLY 2.3 million American's are incarcerated in local, state, or federal "correctional" (read penal as correctional is a misnomer) institution's. Out of 300 million American's, they want you to believe less than 1.0% of our national population commit all crimes, and we have the most citizen's imprisoned of any country in the world as well. Keep in mind, the only way law enforcement is proactive is under a totalitarian/communist/socialist regime, so our current law enforcement standards are all we have, for now anyway. I've alway's wondered why organization's who track crime have not researched how government assassin's/contractor's are trained on our soil, attempting to link unsovled murder's, etc. to them or private corps. r&d lab's who, of course, must test whatever on human subject's without oversight. We only see, hear, or read about such things in the movies. Although I live in a different reality than you do, as perspective is left to the beholder, it's still hard for me to believe that most American's DON'T believe there are "real" assassin's or that private corps. don't really kill people to test product's or that cult's aren't real, which, let me assure you, they are very real. Why aren't cult's found out more? Most serial killer's are solitary, but cult's have member's, some reaching into the hundreds and thousands of member's. Under the collective experience of just 50 people, average age 30, with ten year's experience of abduction/killing, that would leave, at the min., over 500 year's of collective experience to commit such crimes with impunity. Most leo agencies have less collective experience than most cult's, so it's no wonder they're more successful at hiding than the gov. is at routing them.

Lesson, be afraid of the dark, be afraid of the light, but be afraid because no one is researching these problem's, and for a damn good reason. Should the author of this blog attempt to conduct research on the aforementioned topic's, he would most assuredly be signing his death warrant. Don't be afraid of what you know, as most American's aren't prey for solitary serial killer's due to the nature of seeking a victim whom you believe you can dominate. Be afraid of what you don't know, and what any person with a 3rd grade education can see there is a huge hole is research regarding the above; a hole likened to a black hole. Research it and you're likely to become one with it. Still, I wish someone had the balls to broach the subject matter above. I wonder how many killer's I've caught over the year's who've been set up, innocently, for crimes they didn't commit by gov. assassin's/contractor's, for simple training mission's, or private corps. r&d, whether espionage or not.

[hunkahunka]

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Ghoul

An evil spirit or revived corpse supposed to rob graves and feed on human corpses. It is similar to the vampire, but differs in that it not only drinks blood but also consumes flesh. The term is from the Arabic ghul (feminine form, ghulah) meaning "to seize," and the story of the ghoul has been widely disseminated in Moslem countries, ranging from India to Africa. The idea of the ghoul entered into the West in the nineteenth century through translations of the Arabian Nights.


What is the origin of Ras Al Ghoul?
The last defense against Islam, was a fortification located at the border of Libya,Tunisia and Algeria, where non-Muslims succeeded in resisting conversion and winning the right to keep their own beliefs. Ras Al Ghoul, variously interpreted as "Demon's Head" and antithesis of the Egyptian god RA (sun/light).

Thousand Nights and a Night notes: Ghuls
Ghouls have their origin in the Arabic/Persian/Indian tales of Alf Laylah wa Laylah - the Thousand Nights and a Night and in their root stories. As such, Sir Richard F. Burton, ninteeth century translator of the Nights, has a fair amount to say about them in the foot notes of his translation. The male Ghul, he paints as a creature who eats human flesh:

Arab. "Ghul," here an ogre, a cannibal. I cannot but regard the "Ghul of the waste" as an embodiment of the natural fear and horror which a man feels when he faces a really dangerous desert. As regards cannibalism, Al-Islam's religion of common sense freely allows it when necessary to save life, and unlike our mawkish modern sensibility never blames those who

Alimentis talibus usi
Produxere animos.

vi. 36

[That is:

"Employing such food extend lives."

(Thanks to Tim Spaulding for the translation.)] Ghuls in the Nights are rather fearsome, and do not seem to prey on humanity mearly through necessity. Their appetite is nearly insatiable:

Allah ease thee, O King of the age even as thou hast eased me of these Ghuls, whose bellies none may fill save Allah! ix. p. 152

Even their names are fearsome, such as this one - The-Ghul-who-eateth-man-we-pray-to-Allah-for-safety.

Burton had some additional comments on the female Ghuls and the origin of the word "ghul".

The Ghulah (Fem. of Ghul) is the Heb. Lilith or Lilis: the classical Lamia; the Hindu Yogni and Dakini; the Chaldean Utug and Gigim (desert-demons) as opposed to the Mas (Hill-demon) and Telal (who steal into towns); the Ogress of out tales and the Bala yaga (Granny-witch) of Russian folk-lore. Etymologicaly "Ghul" is a calamity, a panic fear; and the monster is evidently the embodied horror of the grave and the graveyard. i. p55

[hunkahunka]

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http://www.profilingtheunexplained.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3129

The first-degree ritual is for the Apprentice Mason. A prayer is said that confuses the new member into thinking there is some form of Christianity within the organization. The first initiation finds the new member swearing never to reveal the secrets of the Masonic organization or they would have their throat cut, tongue torn out and the body buried in the sand at low water level. This is the blood oath.

The second-degree ritual for the Fellow Craft Mason has a stiffer penalty for revealing the rituals. This punishment for revealing the oath is having the left breast ripped open, the vital organs, and the heart ripped out and thrown over the left shoulder for vultures to eat.

[brown velvet]

http://www.profilingtheunexplained.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3129

The first-degree ritual is for the Apprentice Mason. A prayer is said that confuses the new member into thinking there is some form of Christianity within the organization. The first initiation finds the new member swearing never to reveal the secrets of the Masonic organization or they would have their throat cut, tongue torn out and the body buried in the sand at low water level. This is the blood oath.

The second-degree ritual for the Fellow Craft Mason has a stiffer penalty for revealing the rituals. This punishment for revealing the oath is having the left breast ripped open, the vital organs, and the heart ripped out and thrown over the left shoulder for vultures to eat.

The Cremaster
tongue torn out?


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[hunkahunka]

http://crime.about.com/od/serial/ig/serialkillerphotos/bonin.htm

William Bonin was a habitual sex offender turned serial killer, suspected of sexually assaulting, torturing and killing at least 21 boys and young men in California.

The Early Years
William Bonin grew up in a dysfunctional family with an alcoholic father and a grandfather who was a convicted child molester. Early on he was a troubled kid which eventually landed him in a juvenile detention center where he was sexually molested. After leaving the center, he too began molesting children.

After high school, Bonin joined the U.S. Air Force and served in the Vietnam War as a gunner. When he returned home, he married, divorced and moved to California.
A Vow to Never Get Caught Again
He was first arrested at age 23 for sexually assaulting young boys and spent five years in jail. After his release he molested a 14-year-old boy and was returned to prison for an additional four years. Vowing never to get caught again, he began killing his young victims.

From 1979 until his arrest in June 1980, Bonin, along with various accomplices, went on a rape and killing spree, often cruising California highways and streets for young male hitchhikers and school children. After his arrest, he confessed to killing 21 young boys and young men. Police suspected him in additional 15 other murders.

Charged with 14 of the 21 killings, Bonin was found guilty and sentenced to death. On February 23, 1996 Bonin was executed by lethal injection, making him the first person to be executed by lethal injection in California history.

Accomplices:

* Vernon Butts - Accused of taking part in six of the murders, but he hanged himself while awaiting trial.

* Gregory Miley - Plead guilty to participating in one murder. Received a sentence of 25 years to life. He is currently in prison.

* James Munro - Plead guilty to participating in one murder. Received a sentence of 15 years to life. He is still in prison, but trying to appeal claiming he was tricked into a plea bargain.

[hunkahunka]

Randy Steven Kraft


Randy Steven Kraft (born March 19, 1945) is an American serial killer. He was convicted of 16 murders and is strongly suspected of committing at least 51 others.

Early life

Kraft's parents moved to California from Wyoming prior to his birth. He was the fourth child, and the only son, in his family. In 1948, the Kraft clan moved to Westminster, California. Kraft was regarded as bright and scholarly at Westminster High School, where he graduated in 1963. He was believed to have "very superior intelligence" and sported an IQ of 131. After graduation, he attended Claremont McKenna College in Claremont, California.

At Claremont McKenna, Kraft joined the ROTC (Reserve Officer Training Corps). He demonstrated in support of the Vietnam War and campaigned enthusiastically for conservative presidential candidate Barry Goldwater in 1964. The following year he began working as a bartender at a local gay bar. At this time, acquaintances noted his extensive use of Valium to ward off stomach pains and migraines. Kraft earned his bachelor's degree in economics in 1968. By this time, Kraft's political views had shifted to the left, and he began working for Robert Kennedy's political campaign.

In 1968, Kraft joined the U.S. Air Force. Because of his high scores on aptitude tests and background checks, he was provided with high-security clearances. He was stationed at Edwards Air Force Base.

In 1969, Kraft disclosed to his family that he was gay.[citation needed] He was discharged from the Air Force on "medical" grounds the same year. Forced out of the military, Kraft resumed his bartending career.

Late in 1971, police found the decomposing body of Wayne Joseph Dukette, a 30-year-old gay bartender, beside Ortega Highway. The coroner placed the date of death around September 20, 1971, but found no obvious signs of foul play. Dukette’s clothing and belongings were never found. Dukette is thought to be Kraft's first victim.

Murders

During the 1970s and early 1980s, there were dozens of grisly homicides along the freeways of California, with some victims turning up in the neighboring state of Oregon. The victims were young men and teenage boys, most of whom were savagely tortured and sexually abused. Some had been burned with a car cigarette lighter, and many had high levels of alcohol and tranquilizers in their blood systems, indicating they were rendered helpless by alcohol and drugs before they were sadistically abused and killed.

The method of murder varied, with some strangled, some shot in the head, and others killed through a combination of torture and drugs. Quite a number of victims were in the military, hitching their way either to or from their bases. Others were teenage runaways, hitchhikers, or were picked up by the killer in gay bars.

Arrest

Kraft was nearly arrested in 1975. A 19-year-old high school dropout, Keith Daven Crotwell, left Long Beach on March 29, 1975, hitchhiking for southbound rides. Over a month later, Crotwell's severed head was found near the Long Beach Marina. Long Beach was scoured for the car that took Crotwell on his last ride, and it was quickly located. The registration was traced to Randy Steven Kraft. Police questioned Kraft on May 19, 1975. Kraft admitted taking Crotwell for a ride, saying that they went "just wandering around," but claimed he left Crotwell alive at an all-night café. Detectives reportedly wanted to charge Kraft with murder, but L.A. County prosecutors refused, citing the absence of a body or known cause of death.

Kraft was pulled over by the California Highway Patrol on May 14, 1983, while driving along the San Diego Freeway in Mission Viejo. Kraft exited the car himself, dumping the contents of a beer bottle onto the pavement while doing so. Officer Michael Sterling met Kraft at the front of his patrol car and observed Kraft's jeans to be unbuttoned. Officer Sterling had Kraft walk to the front of his vehicle to perform a series of field sobriety tests, which he failed. Kraft was then arrested by Sterling for driving while intoxicated. Sgt. Michael Howard approached the car and saw a man in the passenger's seat, partially covered by a jacket and with empty beer bottles around his feet. This turned out to be the strangled body of Terry Gambrel, a 25-year-old US Marine, Kraft's last victim. Other incriminating evidence was found in the car, including alcohol, tranquilizers, and blood not from Gambrel's body. Officer Sterling and Sgt. Howard then turned Kraft over to the Orange County Sheriffs Department for further investigation. More evidence was found in the house that Kraft shared with his partner. There were clothes and other possessions belonging to young men who had turned up dead at the side of freeways over the last decade, and many photos of victims either unconscious or dead.

Kraft also kept a coded list of 61 cryptic references to his victims, including four double murders, leading to a total of 65 listed victims. At least one of the victims, Terry Gambrel, was not listed because of Kraft's arrest. Investigators maintain that Eric Church was also not listed by Kraft for unknown reasons. Since the list is in code, the possibility exists that Eric Church is listed in a way that investigators cannot recognize, which would lead to a total of 66 listed victims. However, it is largely held that Kraft was responsible for 67 murders, if not more.

Kraft was eventually charged with 16 homicides. He pleaded not guilty at his trial in 1988, but he was convicted on all counts and sentenced to death on November 29, 1989. The death sentence was upheld by the California Supreme Court on August 11, 2000. He is currently on death row at San Quentin State Prison.

Of Kraft's suspected 67 victims, 22 bodies remain unrecovered and unidentified.

Missing accomplice

Certain details surrounding some of Kraft's murders have caused many to suspect that Kraft did not always act alone.

* Forensic evidence in two cases point to an accomplice — an extra set of footprints and semen that did not match Kraft's DNA. (During the trial, members of the prosecution admitted privately that they did not charge Kraft in several murders that they were sure he had committed because of these facts.)[1]
* Kraft would have had difficulty moving around 200-pound corpses; dumping them from cars alone would also be difficult to do unnoticed.
* The snapshots Kraft had of the dead men were processed somewhere, but no developer reported Kraft's morbid images to the police. (Kraft himself had no darkroom expertise or darkroom equipment.)

Jeff Graves

During the trial, the prosecution believed the inconsistencies could be explained away because Kraft had not acted alone in his initial murder spree. His roommate, Jeff Graves, occasionally helped him, according to members of the prosecution team. Graves died of AIDS before police could question him, so the question of Kraft's accomplice was never raised in court.

Bob Jackson

Dennis McDougal wrote a book, Angel of Darkness, about the Kraft case. McDougal also published an article about the case in Beach magazine in January 2000.[1] McDougal recounted his interviews with Bob Jackson, who reportedly confessed to murdering two hitchhikers with Kraft, one in Wyoming in 1975 and Colorado in 1976. (Authorities in Colorado and Wyoming are unable to confirm these confessions.) Jackson also told McDougal that the list included only Kraft's "more memorable" murders, saying the total body count stood closer to 100. McDougal reported these allegations to the police and provided tape recordings of the interviews. Detectives quizzed Jackson and finally persuaded him to enter a mental hospital, but no murder charges were filed.

Kraft sued McDougal and the publisher of Angel of Darkness (ISBN 0-446-51538-8), a book about Kraft's murders and trial, because, Kraft said, it smeared his "good name" and unjustly portrayed him as a "sick, twisted man," which hurt his "prospects for future employment." Kraft sought $62 million in damages. The lawsuit was dismissed as frivolous in June 1994.

After publishing Angel of Darkness, McDougal was contacted by a former Marine from Mission Viejo. McDougal said the Marine "told me he'd hitched a ride from Camp Pendleton to Tustin with Kraft back in 1972 and very nearly became one of his victims. The ex-Marine said Kraft offered him a beer and he drank it, realizing almost too late that the beer had been laced with something a lot more powerful than alcohol. He forced Randy to pull over, stumbled out of Kraft's car in a daze and continued to have nightmares for years afterward about what might have happened if he hadn't been so insistent."[citation needed]

McDougal was also contacted by Jan Oliver, Kraft's college girlfriend. He said of the conversation:

Like the ex-Marine, Oliver was an early guinea pig for Kraft. She remembers him offering her beers during marathon drives through the foothills and back roads of Southern California. Sometimes, she could down two or three beers and it didn't faze her, but there were other instances in which she knew she'd consumed more than lager, as "I'd have no more than three or four sips and it would knock me out!" Years later, following Kraft's arrest, those times she passed out in his car and woke up hours later with a headache came back to her with alarm. She also recalled a few times when Kraft showed up at her door after midnight, years after they had broken up and Kraft had come out of the closet. They remained friends, so she opened her door to him even at odd hours. "He came over once red-faced and hyperventilating," she said. "It was late — maybe one or two in the morning — and he was very agitated, rambling. I never did find out what was upsetting him, although I wouldn't really call it 'upset' so much now, as 'excited.' He seemed very excited." That was sometime in the early 1970s, and Jan Oliver is now convinced that what she witnessed in the front room of her apartment that night was the glassy-eyed transformation of a thrill killer, trying to calm his predatory lust before resuming his day-to-day role as a "normal" human being.

[edit] Other "Freeway Killers"

Occasionally, Kraft (sometimes called the Southern California Strangler) is confused with William Bonin. Both have been called "The Freeway Killer", and both murdered young men and often left their victims roadside. However, Bonin did not torture or castrate[citation needed] his victims, as Kraft did. Bonin would stop his vehicle to dump the bodies of his victims, while Kraft shoved his victims out of a fast-moving vehicle, often to gruesome effect. The similarity of the crimes often confused investigators, who were initially surprised that the murders continued after Bonin's arrest.

A third "Freeway Killer", Patrick Kearney, also happened to select young men as victims from the freeways of Southern California during the 1970s.

[soulja]

fascinating research hunka, you already showed more dodgy and right out satanic links to the OTO then we managed in 30 pages on the OTO thread.

check out this band, they call themselves VOX-Illuminati;
http://www.thevoxilluminati.com/images/illuminati_inhaler.jpg
http://www.thevoxilluminati.com/

there so many MK themes on that site it's beyond coincidence and going just by the vibe i think there's a good chance they're connected to the OTO.
also they dress themselves up as 9/11 truthers but i don't trust them.
seems to me like a MK group planted in the truth community to influence/steer it.

[brown velvet]

http://crime.about.com/od/serial/ig/serialkillerphotos/bonin.htm

William Bonin was a habitual sex offender turned serial killer, suspected of sexually assaulting, torturing and killing at least 21 boys and young men in California.



Accomplices:

* Vernon Butts - Accused of taking part in six of the murders, but he hanged himself while awaiting trial.

* Gregory Miley - Plead guilty to participating in one murder. Received a sentence of 25 years to life. He is currently in prison.

* James Munro - Plead guilty to participating in one murder. Received a sentence of 15 years to life. He is still in prison, but trying to appeal claiming he was tricked into a plea bargain.






so you reckon many of these massive 'serial killers' are fall guys for 'groups' or maybe some of them, with others being 'true' loners?

because that is definitely what seems to be appearing....



brown.

[brown velvet]

I think this is a very good likeness as to what goes on "INSiDE"

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[gman]

I just stumbled across these postings about possible connections with Barack Obama and Mind Control.

WAS BARACK'S COMMUNIST MENTOR A SADO-MASOCHIST PEDOPHILE? (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=134117)

DON'T GET CAUGHT IN THE SEX - IT'S THE MIND CONTROL PART THAT'S IMPORTANT (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=134126)

[hunkahunka]

so you reckon many of these massive 'serial killers' are fall guys for 'groups' or maybe some of them, with others being 'true' loners?

because that is definitely what seems to be appearing....



brown.

yes, I think that a lot of these serial killers are mind-controlled slaves who are used to procure fresh meat for SRA/mk networks.

I have a theory on it, that these 'serial killers' are mk slaves who are programmed to be sexually aroused at the thought of capturing people, but their victims often end up in the hands of the mk networks.
As far as the serial killers victims go:
Some programmable victims would dissociate during torture, and are allowed to live, because they become the mk property of the network. Maybe they themselves then become mk'd serial killers/torturers for the network .

I think the way it works is that if the victim cannot be programmed, then they are murdered in SRA trauma sessions to terrorize other victims. The 'serial killers' are the ones responsible for both procuring and disposing of the victims, but in the interim, the network has access to these people. My guess is that the serial killers are responsible for a mixed bag of victims. ie: some of them are just 'toys' that the serial killer is allowed to keep for himself, while a large percentage of them are actually taken from him and used by the network.

He is also programmed to dispose of the bodies in a trademark fashion, and sometimes has nothing to do with some of the actual murders of the people that he disposes of. He might recall burying the bodies , be subject to missing time, blackouts ,etc. , and end up confessing to murders that he assumes he committed himself, alone. There would be some murders, of course, that he clearly recalled committing.

In this way, the serial killer will take the fall for large numbers of victims, and more importantly, take all of the blame for the actions of a large number of people.

In so many of these cases I have posted, it emerges that they had accomplices, on the official record. In other cases, like those of Robert Berdella and Robert Pickton, for example, there are unconfirmed suspicions that accomplices were involved who were never revealed or officially recognized.

[brown velvet]

Off their heads (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/fashion/article-1065373/Off-faces-Back-models-struggle-make-catwalk.html): The back-to-front models who wore wigs over their faces

First Prada sent their models toppling over in dangerously high heels, now they are being made to walk the runway without even being able to see where they are going.

And despite there being very little clothing involved, Martin Margiela's show still caused quite the stir at Paris Fashion Week.

Models showcased the celebrated designer's bizarre collection - wearing face stockings and wigs that covered their entire heads.

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Known as Fashion's 'invisible man', the Belgian designer rarely does interviews and never makes catwalk appearances - preferring to be contacted via fax - maintaining anonymity to prove that clothes 'are greater than the creator'.

sounds very suspicious :rolleyes: is it a team making / designing the clothes?
'creator'? Hmmmm:cool:

This perhaps goes some way to explaining why Margiela has chosen to mask his models, reducing them to mannequins to highlight the importance of fashion over celebrity.

Margiela's mysterious profile has done little to blight his popularity though as the Antwerp-born designer has been hailed as fashion royalty and counts Balenciaga designer Nicolas Ghesquière as one of his fans.

Margiela's iconic status was consolidated in a recently opened exhibition at Antwerp’s Mode Museum in Belgium, which celebrates the last twenty years of Maison Martin Margiela.

The designer shot to fame in the 80's, when he worked for Jean Paul Gaultier before showing his first collection under his own label in 1988. In 1997 he became, despite his non-traditional design, the chief designer of Hermés women's line.

Word on the catwalk is that Margiela's Spring/Summer 09 collection will be his last and judging by Monday's show - it will be most definitely be remembered.


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the above images reminded me of my post about fashion week in (Hollywood?) I can't locate my post to compare, it was the young boy who came on as the last 'model' wearing wings and doing a hand signal. Will keep looking :D

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looks like missing arms / arms appearing in the incorrect place, weird.

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L'Inconnue de la Seine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Inconnue_de_la_Seine) (French for "the unknown woman of the Seine") was an unidentified young woman whose death mask became a popular fixture on the walls of artists' homes after 1900. Her visage was the inspiration for numerous literary works.

History
According to an often-repeated story, the body of the young woman was pulled out of the Seine River at the Quai de Louvre in Paris around the late 1880s.[2] The body showed no signs of violence, and suicide was suspected.

A pathologist at the Paris morgue was so taken by her beauty that he had a moulder make a plaster cast death mask of her face. According to other accounts, the mask was taken from the daughter of a mask manufacturer in Germany.[3] The identity of the girl was never discovered. The moulder who took the cast of the face was believed to be based at the Lorenzi family model-making firm. Claire Forestier, a member of the Lorenzi family, believes that the model was not dead when the cast was taken. She works in the family modelling workshop, and says that a dead body from a river would not have such clear features. She estimated the age of the model at no more than 16, given the firmness of the skin.[4]

In the following years, numerous copies were produced. The copies quickly became a fashionable morbid fixture in Parisian Bohemian society. Albert Camus and others compared her enigmatic smile to that of the Mona Lisa, inviting numerous speculations as to what clues the eerily happy expression in her face could offer about her life, her death, and her place in society.

The popularity of the figure is also of interest to the history of artistic media, relating to its widespread reproduction. The original cast had been photographed, and new casts were created back from the film negatives. These new casts displayed details that are usually lost in bodies taken from the water, but the apparent preservation of these details in the visage of the cast seemed to only reinforce its authenticity.

Critic A. Alvarez wrote in his book on suicide, The Savage God: "I am told that a whole generation of German girls modeled their looks on her." According to Hans Hesse of the University of Sussex, Alvarez reports, "the Inconnue became the erotic ideal of the period, as Bardot was for the 1950s. He thinks that German actresses like Elisabeth Bergner modeled themselves on her. She was finally displaced as a paradigm by Greta Garbo."

In Western cultures a death mask (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_mask) is a wax or plaster cast made of a person's face following death. Death masks may be mementos of the dead, or be used for creation of portraits. It is sometimes possible to identify portraits that have been painted from death masks, because of the characteristic slight distortions of the features caused by the weight of the plaster during the making of the mold. In other cultures a death mask may be a clay or other artifact placed on the face of the deceased before burial rites. The best known of these are the masks used by ancient Egyptians as part of the mummification process, such as Tutankhamun's burial mask.

In the seventeenth century in some European countries, it was common for death masks to be used as part of the effigy of the deceased, displayed at state funerals. During the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries they were also used to permanently record the features of unknown corpses for purposes of identification. This function was later replaced by photography.

Proponents of phrenology and ethnography also used both death masks and life masks (taken from living subjects) for scientific and pseudoscientific purposes.



History
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In the Middle Ages, a shift took place from sculpted masks to true death masks, made of wax or plaster. These masks were not interred with the deceased. Instead, they were used in funeral ceremonies and were later kept in libraries, museums and universities. Death masks were taken not only of deceased royalty and nobility (Henry VIII, Sforza), but also of eminent persons – poets, philosophers, and dramaturges, such as Dante, Filippo Brunelleschi, Torquato Tasso, Blaise Pascal and Voltaire. As earlier in ancient Rome, death masks were often subsequently used in making marble sculpture portraits, busts or engravings of the deceased.


Resusci Anne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resusci_Anne), also known as Rescue Anne or CPR Annie, is a training mannequin used for teaching Cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) to both emergency workers and members of the general public. Resusci Anne was developed by Norwegian toy maker Åsmund Laerdal, based on the research of Peter Safar and James Elam, and was first introduced in 1960. The mannequin is designed to accurately simulate the human respiratory system and external body landmarks in order to facilitate training.

Since its original introduction, several different versions of Resusci Anne have also been introduced, including versions with computer monitoring, and versions that simulate other emergency medical conditions, such as severe wounds and trauma.

Trainees using the original Resusci Anne were expected to approach the mannequin, tap her, and say "Annie, Annie, Annie, are you okay?"[citation needed] After receiving no response, the trainees then proceeded to administer CPR to the mannequin. This system was intended to teach trainees that not all victims require CPR-if a victim can respond when asked if he/she is okay, the victim probably does not need CPR.

The distinctive face of Resusci Anne was based on L'Inconnue de la Seine, the death mask of an unidentified young woman reputedly drowned in the Seine River around the late 1880s


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The Day of the Dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dead) (Día de los Muertos in Spanish) is a holiday celebrated mainly in Mexico and by people of Mexican heritage (and others) living in the United States and Canada. The holiday focuses on gatherings of family and friends to pray for and remember friends and relatives who have died. The celebration occurs on the 1st and 2nd of November, in connection with the Catholic holy days of All Saints' Day and All Souls' Day which take place on those days. Traditions include building private altars honoring the deceased, using sugar skulls, marigolds, and the favorite foods and beverages of the departed, and visiting graves with these as gifts. Observance of the holiday in Mexican-American communities in the United States has become more important and widespread as the community grows numerically and economically.

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Scholars trace the origins of the modern holiday to indigenous observances dating back thousands of years, and to an Aztec festival dedicated to a goddess called Mictecacihuatl (known in English as "The Lady of the Dead").

Similar holidays are celebrated in many parts of the world; for example, it is a public holiday in Brazil, where many Brazilians celebrate by visiting cemeteries and churches. In Spain, there are festivals and parades, and at the end of the day, people gather at cemeteries and pray to their loved ones who have died. Similar observances occur elsewhere in Europe and in the Philippines, and similarly-themed celebrations appear in many Asian and African cultures.

Origins of Day of the Dead
The Day of the Dead celebrations in Mexico can be traced back to the indigenous peoples such as the Olmec, Zapotec, Mixtec, Mexican, Aztec, Maya, P'urhépecha, and Totonac. Rituals celebrating the deaths of ancestors have been observed by these civilizations perhaps for as long as 2500–3000 years.[1] In the pre-Hispanic era, it was common to keep skulls as trophies and display them during the rituals to symbolize death and rebirth.


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The festival that became the modern Day of the Dead fell in the ninth month of the Aztec calendar, about the beginning of August, and was celebrated for an entire month. The festivities were dedicated to the goddess Mictecacihuatl,[2] known as the "Lady of the Dead," corresponding to the modern Catrina.

In most regions of Mexico, November 1st honors deceased children and infants where as deceased adults are honored on November 2nd. This is indicated by generally referring to November 1st mainly as "Día de los Inocentes" (Day of the Innocents) but also as "Día de los Angelitos" (Day of the Little Angels) and November 2nd as "Día de los Muertos" or "Día de los Difuntos" (Day of the Dead).

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Those with writing talent sometimes create short poems, called "calaveras" ("skulls"), mocking epitaphs of friends, sometimes describing interesting habits and attitudes or some funny anecdotes. This custom originated in the 18th-19th century, after a newspaper published a poem narrating a dream of a cemetery in the future, "and all of us were dead", proceeding to "read" the tombstones. Newspapers dedicate calaveras to public figures, with cartoons of skeletons in the style of José Guadalupe Posada, a Mexican illustrator. Theatrical presentations of Don Juan Tenorio by José Zorrilla (1817–1893) are also traditional on this day.

A common symbol of the holiday is the skull (colloquially called calavera), which celebrants represent in masks, called calacas (colloquial term for "skeleton"), and foods such as sugar skulls, which are inscribed with the name of the recipient on the forehead. Sugar skulls are gifts that can be given to both the living and the dead. Other holiday foods include pan de muerto, a sweet egg bread made in various shapes, from plain rounds to skulls and rabbits often decorated with white frosting to look like twisted bones.

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In Aztec mythology, Mictecacihuatl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mictecacihuatl) is the Queen of Mictlan, the underworld, ruling over the afterlife with Mictlantecuhtli, another deity who is designated as her husband.

Her role is to keep watch over the bones of the dead. She presided over the ancient festivals of the dead, which evolved from Aztec traditions into the modern Day of the Dead after synthesis with Spanish cultural traditions. She is said now to preside over the contemporary festival as well.

Mictecacihuatl is known as the Lady of the Dead, since it is believed that she died while giving birth. Her cult is sometimes held to persist in the common Mexican worship of Santa Muerte.

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Santa Muerte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Muerte)
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Saint Death (also known as La Santísima Muerte, and Doña Sebastiana), is a religious figure who receives petitions for love, luck, and protection. Saint Death is often depicted as a female figure.



Saint Death is often depicted as a female figure.
MOD - Mother Of Darkness??



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In his writings ("Bloodlines of the Illuminati", p. 205) and speeches, Fritz Springmeier mentions a secret castle located near the village of Muno in Belgium. This castle would, according to him, be a center of the occult and have a cathedral inside with a dome with 1,000 lights. This castle is referred to as the Mothers-of-Darkness castle. (http://www.apfn.org/APFN/MOD-castle.htm)Monarch programming would be performed on children there. This castle is also sometimes referred to as the "Castle of Kings". Its real name is "Château des Amerois" and it is located in Bouillon (Belgium), near the village of Muno. This castle and its domain, the Muno forest, belonged to Prince Philippe of Saxe-Cobourg-Gotha, Count of Flanders and father of King Albert I. He bought the property in 1869 to the Marquis van der Noot d'Assche.The castle of Romantic style was built in 1877 for Philippe of Saxe-Cobourg Gotha by the architect Gustave Saintenoy. It has 365 windows. This castle was later bought by Alice Solvay, niece of the Belgian scientist and industrialist Ernest Solvay.

Postcards of the castle (http://www.apfn.org/APFN/castle.htm)

Strangely, Fritz Springmeier is not the only one to mention this castle. In their 2001 book dedicated to the Dutroux affair, "Dossier pédophilie. Le scandale de l'affaire Dutroux" (Paedophilia File: The Scandal of the Dutroux Affair) p. 259, Jean Nicolas and Frédéric Lavachery also mention the Amerois castle as a place where satanic ritual parties with children sacrifices allegedly took place. A report of the Dutroux affair refers to the letter of a retired gendarme talking about his castle. At the beginning of April 1996, he hosted a Mexican priest. A Dutch friend of the priest came to pick him up. The Dutch mentioned the Château des Amerois as a place where satanic soirées took place with children sacrifices. An American from the NATO, who allegedly took part to one of these parties and felt disgusted, gave this information to the Dutch.

and

There are more intriguing pieces of information. According to the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg official bulletin (28 December 2001), Patrick Solvay, shareholder of the Solvay Group, who lives in the Amerois castle (1, Les Amerois, B-6830 Bouillon (Belgium)) founded a company with Alexander de Wit, on July 3rd 2001. The name of this company is Itaca International. Through this holding company, Patrick Solvay is the main shareholder of The Little Gym, which organizes activities for children with summer and holiday camps. On May 1st 2004, Itaca International’s registered office was transferred to Bertrange (5 rue Pletzer, L-8080 Bertrange). This address corresponds to The Little Gym, located at the very same place. It seems that the former name of Itaca International was "The LifeSkills Company", which also belonged to Patrick Solvay. This is rather weird when you think about what Fritz Springmeier and a police report of the Dutroux affair told about the Amerois castle.


chapter 7 The Science of Structuring, Fritz

Between age 16 and 19 the deep Satanic alters are working on "pathworking." This pathworking will be completed before they are 19. The ceremony at 19 will include the 1,000 points of light ceremony at the super secret Mother-of-Darkness castle of Chateau des Arnerois (Castle of Kings) close to the Belgium-French border in Europe and about 20 kilometers as the crow flies west from Luxemburg. This will be a sealing ceremony with the Mothers dressed in black. Guards and heavy forest protect the large castle from view. The people in the nearby spooky village of Muno, Bel, basically belong to the castle. The castle has a cathedral inside with a dome with 1,000 lights. The words 1,000 lights is an Illuminati buzz word. When the President used it to describe the White House’s Christmas tree, hierarchy people knew what he was signalling. The cathedral has a great hall with columns on either side, and the Queen Mother’s throne will be set up there. Only a single male waving an incense ball and robed in white with a red mantle with gold symbols will participate in 1,000 lights ceremony. Down in the secret basement is where an innocent child is sacrificed everyday to provide blood to write in a hugh book the record of how Satan is bringing his plans to fruition.
The strongman protecting the tree of life is Lilith/Zerodieth/Lucifer spirits amalgamated. Behind the 1st line of the tree are 880 demons, and tens of thousands more are attached to this whole apparatus. For 24 hours after one of the Queen ceremonies, the Queen alter is a queen and can have anything she wishes.

In some Mexican traditions, most notably among the descendants of Austrian immigrants, Saint Death (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Muerte) is believed to be the wife of Krampus.

Although the Catholic Church has attacked the worship of Saint Death as a pagan tradition contrary to the Christian belief of Christ defeating death, many people insist on praying to this figure for miracles. Saint Death is venerated by a wide variety of people from many different backgrounds. Often, those who pray to this figure are seeking the recovery of health, stolen items, or kidnapped family members.


This Saint is frequently dressed as a grim reaper with a scythe and scales (the scales may be reminiscent of St. Michael); also she can be dressed in a long white satin gown and a golden crown (Muerte and the related Romance words have a feminine gender). In this form, many devotees view her as a variation of the Virgin Mary.


A life sized figure of Santa Muerte stands outside a fortune teller's storefront in Mexico City's Chinatown. Grim Reaper statues are made in red, white, green and black – for love, luck, financial success and protection. Offerings to Saint Death include roses and tequila. Public shrines to Saint Death are adorned with red roses, cigars, and bottles of tequila, and Saint Death candles burn in his/her honor. Throughout Mexico, and in parts of the United States (especially in Mexican immigrant communities), Saint Death prayer cards, medals, and candles are made and sold to the public.

One resource indicates that the cult of Saint Death originated from ancient witchcraft in the state of Veracruz; however, other research inclines one to question if Saint Death is in reality much older. Saint Death may have his/her roots in pre-Christian beliefs of the Aztec Native Americans who worshiped a similar figure by the name of Mictlantecuhtli, the god of death, along with his wife, Mictecacihuatl.

Similar to other cultures around the world, pre-Christian deities in Mexico are sometimes syncretized as pseudo-saints. On the other hand, in Spanish the phrase santa muerte could also be interpreted simply as "holy death." Thus Saint Death may simply represent a reinterpretation by folk religion of the traditional and orthodox Roman Catholic practice of prayer to receive a blessed death in a state of grace.[2]

Her prayers, orations, and novenas contain the Trinity and worship of Yahweh. While some view Santa Muerte as a figure of black magic, others view her as a Catholic saint worthy of veneration.

Saint Death is also worshipped by the Iglesia Católica Tradicionalista mexicana-estadounidense, a church not related to the Roman Catholic church.

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calaveras de azúcar ("sugar skulls") are used to adorn altars and can be eaten
calaveras are poems, written for the Day of the Dead but intended to humorously criticize the living
calavera can refer to any artistic representations of skulls, such as the lithographs of José Guadalupe Posada

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Calavera poetry (http://www.epcc.edu/ftp/Homes/elcon/102307f3.htm) reading slated for Nov. 1
By Sonia Rangel
The college, the English as a Second Language program (ESL) and the Reading and Social Sciences Division are scheduled to host the first calaveras poem contest.

A calavera poem is a longtime Mexican tradition to mock death. The poem celebrates the Day of the Dead, or El Dia De Los Muertos, starting the night of Nov. 1.

Calavera means “skull” in Spanish, and is often reproduced as a colorful sugar ornament in the form of a skull.


This celebration dates back to the 19th century. The tradition of calavera poems was started by a nun, Madre Matiana, as a way of making fun of politicians, according to Claudia Contreras, the academic advisor of the ESL program.

Alumni, professors, staff and workers at EPCC are encouraged to enter the contest.

A calavera may be written in Spanish or English or both and must have a minimum of six stanzas between four and ten verses.

Anyone interested in submitting a calavera should first fill out an entry form at A2109 at the VV. An entry must be
submitted with a nickname and be emailed to
spcstudies@ yahoo.com by Oct. 26 at 5 p.m. The calavera must be written in Word 2003 in 12-point Arial type with 1.5 line spacing.

The judges will decide on the winners according to originality, creativity and the previously mentioned guidelines.

The first-place winner will be awarded $50 and a book, and the 2nd and 3rd place finishers will be awarded $25 and a book respectively. The winners will also get the chance to recite their calaveras at the awards ceremony.

The EPCC community is invited to participate by bringing a picture or object to honor someone who has passed away.

There will be an altar of seven levels. The bottom three levels are for anyone in the EPCC community. The seventh level will be to honor Sor Juana Ines De La Cruz, a Mexican woman who contributed to feminism, science, literature and the arts.

“The altar holds what the person was like when he or she was living,” said Contreras.

interesting, huh?



The festivity is a way of calling the dead back, and celebrates the reunion of the living and the dead.

The event is scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. on Nov. 2, at the VV Cafeteria Annex.





chapter 7 The Science of Structuring, Fritz

When an alter tries to recover a memory it goes round and round in a vicious cycle and finally concludes the memory is false. If one alter holds a memory, an alter close to it will have no feelings attached to the memory and will find it difficult to accept the memory as its own. It’s like wearing someone else’s coat, it may fit, but it just isn’t your own. Mirror images, & pseudo-alters are layered in, so that it becomes perplexing to identify where an alter starts & where it ends. Therapists may think they have integrated alters, & actually only integrated their mirror images. Looking Glass People See my previous post, (Tall book of make believe (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=510069&highlight=tall+book+of#post510069)) are similar to the mirror images. The Programmers may create a looking glass alter by having a drugged alter(s) of the victim endure the trauma of seeing someone’s face peeled. Then the victim’s face is also pretended to be peeled--by pulling off something like elmer’s glue which has formed a surface on the victim’s face. Then the dead person’s skin is placed over the victim being programmed. The Looking Glass People are charted on grids and contain lots of the programs. They are confusing to the regular alters, because they appear internally like mirror images.




chapter 8 body manipulations and programming, Fritz

Human skin gives off odorless pheromones which other people can detect. Basic human drives are controlled by Pheromones. Endorfin is a peptide, of which at least 50 have been charted. By manipulating these chemicals, people can be biochemically put into a different state of mind, and victims have been manipulated by these chemicals. These chemicals are being used in conjunction with Virtual Reality to control slaves’ minds. In the March-April ‘94 edition of The Futurist the author Glenn F. Cartwright, of McGill University announces in his article "Virtual or Real? The Mind in Cyberspace", "Strangely, the developers of virtual reality seem largely unconcerned by the possible dangers inherent in launching individuals into another reality." This is because Virtual Reality is being developed as another tool of mind-control. Computers can dynamically control and synchronize all that needs to be coordinated to give someone a virtual reality experience. The researchers/programmers are trying to immerse as many of the victim’s senses into their virtual reality trip as possible. It becomes almost impossible to distinguish reality from the trip for the victim of this type of programming. McGill University, Dr. White (Cameron’s) old stomping grounds did some virtual reality research.




Porcelain Face Programming, fritz

The Porcelain Face Programming was already touched on earlier in chapters 2 & 7 when the fire tortures and Gatekeeper alters were written about. Fire torture and melted wax is used to make the child victim believe their face has been burned. Then the programmer generously gives the traumatized alters a porcelain mask. The alter getting the Porcelain face may be given a "gem" hypnotically like Jade and that becomes their secret name. There are several different methods that are available to lay in the porcelain face programming. There has been a great deal of porcelain casts made of people’s faces and then masks made of them. In fact, when a handler dies, at least in one case the replacement handler wore a mask to look like the previous handler. Human baby skin is used to construct a mask from the victim’s facial cast.

A mask is worn by the Illuminati victim when they are married to the AntiChrist. The Porcelain Masks are often part of the Camelot & Shakespeare programming. Another use of porcelain masks which was only experimented with was to place masks on Pawn alters which were used as alters who would guard things by scaring other alters with their fearful porcelain countenances. This programming has spiritual ramifications, because it is one of the programming methods to steal alters of their faces. The alters getting porcelain face programming will only see a porcelain face in the mirror until the programming is taken down. As long as the computer on their level is operating the programming to that alter will be intact.

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[brown velvet]

watchismo (http://watchismo.blogspot.com/2007/10/haunted-horology-week-mary-queen-of.html)


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[emerald]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylar_Deleon

Former 'Power Rangers' Actor Convicted In Triple Murder

SANTA ANA, Calif. -- Skylar Deleon, a former child actor who appeared on the popular kids' TV series "Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers," has been found guilty on three counts of first-degree murder, according to The Associated Press.

A jury in Orange County, Calif., convicted the now-29-year-old Deleon on Monday of murdering three people, including a couple who were tied to an anchor and thrown off their yacht off the California coast. The jury found him guilty of three counts of first-degree murder with special circumstances for financial gain and multiple victims.

Deleon's victims were an Arizona couple - Tom Hawks, 57, and wife Jackie, 47 - who were last seen in November 2004, after setting sail aboard their 55-foot yacht with Deleon, who they believed to be a potential buyer for their boat, according to The Associated Press.

Prosecutors argued Deleon, and two other men, took a test cruise with the couple posing as interested buyers, forced them to sign over ownership of the yacht and then tied their bodies to the boat's anchor and threw their bodies overboard.

The bodies of Tom and Jackie Hawks were never recovered.

In addition, Deleon was also found guilty of murdering Anaheim resident Jon Jarvi in 2003, who Deleon met while in a work furlough program while serving jail time for burglary, according to prosecutors.

Deleon was charged with slitting Jarvi's throat in Mexico after Jarvi gave him $50,000 in December 2003.

Gary Pohlson, an attorney for Deleon conceded to the jury his Deleon was guilty of all three murders from the beginning, however, argued his client should not be put to death.

"Skylar is guilty of all three murders, [but] at the end of this, I'm going to ask you to give him life without the possibility of parole as the appropriate sentence," his attorney reportedly told the jury.

In asking the court for leniency, Pohlson reportedly cited Deleon's "horrible, horrible life," and noted that he was abused as child by his father, who eventually died of AIDS.

Tom Hawks' son, Ryan, who was present at the court, called the verdict a "warm up" for the penalty phase, which will begin on Wednesday.

"It felt like a little tiny piece of the puzzle was put in justice," Ryan Hawks said, according to the AP.

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Originally posted (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=443538&highlight=candy#post443538) 02 Aug 08


April 8th at Social Hollywood on Sunset was an afternoon chock-full of candy couture as the "Sweet Petite and Tiny Treats" runway show previewed the hot toddler fashion items to be showcased at this weekend’s premiere baby exposition, Baby Celebration (http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2008/04/baby-celebratio.html) Los Angeles, April 12 and 13, at the Los Angeles Convention Center.
The Candy Land inspired show, artfully designed by stylist Joey G., delighted the audience with fresh designs from more than 30 children’s brands and boutiques, including Sandbox Rebel, Hopscotch Designs, Dandy Social Club, Kicky Pants by Innovative Baby, Kaiya Eve Couture, Baby Lulu, and Obli Organics among others. The lines presented both their spring and fall collections worn by models eighteen months to five years old and set against the backdrop of a magical candy-coated wonderland.The afternoon’s runway show-stopper was a luxe long sleeve cotton dress in diamond white embellished with garnet crystals, complete with a coordinating crystal emblazoned parasol. Both were created especially for the event by Kicky Pants by Innovative Baby.
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lollipops......
adult shouting out 'work it....'

white dress, red sparkly stripes and an umberella.... and then watch her twirl around

then twins.....

then a black winged, blonde headed angelic, checker collared, gold booted, stripey trousered, hat wearing, staff carrying little boy appears.....
does his hand signal, checks he's got it 'just right'..... and walks back.

mini models in 'make-up'


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[mrguitarbear]

Sorry I have been away for a while , but I'm still following the thread - great work guys !

' Un Chien Andalou ' was mentioned earlier on - the ' Andalusian Dog ' of the title was supposedly the homosexual poet Federico Garcia Lorca who had been having a love affair with Salvador Dali. Dali and director Louis Bunuel were bored with Lorca and the film is a veiled attack on him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federico_Garc%C3%ADa_Lorca

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welcome back mgb :D


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[hunkahunka]

not sure if this is a hoax or not: the origin is the Daily Star, a skin tabloid,
fwiw


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/55451/Chef-who-ate-gay-lover-jailed-for-30-years-but-he-ll-run-new-diner/

Cannibal Murderer Mr. Gay UK Sentenced; Will Plan Restaurant Menu

21st October 2008
By Jerry Lawton


A CANNIBAL chef caged for at least 30 years yesterday for eating his gay dinner guest plans to run a restaurant from his jail cell.

Anthony Morley slit 33-year-old advertising salesman Damian Oldfield’s throat, sliced off a chunk of his flesh, fried it in olive oil and ate it.

But the former Mr Gay UK did not like the taste of the human meat and spat it out in the bin.

Last night Morley’s best pal Michael Graham, 25, revealed the cannibal had agreed to help him run his new restaurant from behind bars.

Mr Graham will receive weekly food consultations from the killer – a former chef at a Leeds hotel – when he visits him in the city’s Armley Prison.

He said Morley will design the menu and give him cooking tips for his Citrus restaurant in Leeds.

Mr Graham said: “He’s a brilliant chef, much better than me, so it makes sense to learn from him.

“Tony can do a lot for the place even though he’s on the inside.

“I can’t understand why he did what he did but it won’t put me off.

“He’s made me countless meals and they’ve all been wonderful.

“Customers can be assured all our meat will be fresh from the best butcher in town.”

Yesterday, Morley, 36, was jailed for life after a jury convicted him of what a sickened judge described as “one of the most gruesome murders” he had ever encountered.

Ordering Morley to spend at least 30 years behind bars, Judge James Stewart QC told him: “Before this case I had associated cannibalism with eras long gone, with the tale of Robinson Crusoe. No longer.

“You have plumbed depths rarely encountered in our courts.”

Morley flipped after inviting Mr Oldfield, known as the Tough Poof, round for dinner at his home in Harehills, Leeds.

After they had sex in bed, Morley stabbed his guest 19 times.

A former girlfriend of bisexual Morley told how she was staggered by his crime because he had once sent a steak back because it was too rare.

Businesswoman Wendy Stewart, 36, said: “He didn’t like his meat raw.”

[ashur]

Apparently, the CIA got hold of Cobain when he was still unknown, then using drugs, hypnosis and medical torture, they broke his will and rebuilt his personality. 'Most of the time he'd act relatively normal,' I was told, 'but all it took was a few key words spoken over the phone and Cobain would carry out the deeds he'd been programmed to enact.' My contact was convinced that the singer had been brainwashed into committing suicide at the peak of his success because the CIA figured this would reduce his potentially rebellious fans to complete despair.

Nonsense. I know how cobain died exactly because I was astral projecting at the time when I was 11. And I was at the greenhouse when he was sorting through his junk.

What happened was he collected a few things. A doll and this video game. I dunno he was sorting through some of the stuff. And courtney came in and convinced him to inject some herion into his arm. Then from what I can remember there was a slight struggle after he realized it was to much a dose. Then courtney proceeded to inject it into his other arm.

Then I saw another guy come in and help courtney. Then I projected into a bit later of a time and saw how she planted the note and arranged his stuff. Particually I noticed how they were arguing over how the shotgun should be placed. They eventually agreed, wiped the finger prints clean and arranged an exit.

I saw all this in my astral projection before I even saw on the news later how he was dead. So I'm confident this is what happened.

P.S
this thread has gone totally off topic why?

I later figured out Cobain was going to leave courtney and she couldn't take it.

[hunkahunka]

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note the sun spiral motif on the box

similar to this:
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[onourwayto2012]

Nonsense. I know how cobain died exactly because I was astral projecting at the time when I was 11. And I was at the greenhouse when he was sorting through his junk.

What happened was he collected a few things. A doll and this video game. I dunno he was sorting through some of the stuff. And courtney came in and convinced him to inject some herion into his arm. Then from what I can remember there was a slight struggle after he realized it was to much a dose. Then courtney proceeded to inject it into his other arm.

Then I saw another guy come in and help courtney. Then I projected into a bit later of a time and saw how she planted the note and arranged his stuff. Particually I noticed how they were arguing over how the shotgun should be placed. They eventually agreed, wiped the finger prints clean and arranged an exit.

I saw all this in my astral projection before I even saw on the news later how he was dead. So I'm confident this is what happened.

P.S
this thread has gone totally off topic why?

I later figured out Cobain was going to leave courtney and she couldn't take it.

Well there ya go! Case closed. We can move on now..... and I'm only being half sarcastic....I sure can't prove it didn't happen this way.

[hunkahunka]

"He Loves Me... He Loves Me Not" game is used in mind control, to quote Illuminati formula again:

The Programmers, especially Dr. Mengele, enjoyed taking a daisy and pulling its petals off one at a time. First petal, "I love you". Second Petal, "I love you not." IF the last daisy petal was "I love you not"--then the child was dramatically killed in front of other children to be programmed.
...
The daisy game, which was scary for a child, heightened the victim’s attention. Matrixes were built upon this deadly game. How did it feel to be programmed with Mengele’s "I love you, I love you not" programming? A victim recalls, "The child was placed in a cage exposed and naked. The low voltage wires were rigged to the metal of the cage. The child experienced a continual erratic or sporadic prolonged voltage of shock until the heart would pulsate and the anxiety level of the child became out of control. "Then the Dr. would enter the scene with his sneering taunting smile while holding a daisy in his hands. The sporadic voltage would continue to flow through the child’s body. As the shock continued, the Dr. stood before the child pulling petals off the daisy. His only communication was voiced in these words, "LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU NOT, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU NOT," while pulling off the daisy petals. This action would drive the child crazy because the child knows full well if that last petal is pulled off it meant death.

The child that is not loved is skinned alive before the other children. "...we can now begin to understand that the expendable children were in other cages placed all around us for the eye to see. They went through the same process as we watched. When the last petal of the daisy was pulled from the flower they were killed. Then the terror of what we had just experienced through the seeing and hearing, let us know we were next, but when? By the time the doctor got to "He loves me not" some children no longer knew fear. Their ashes were taken from the crematorium and used in the garden for fertilizer, as a reminder to all what happens to unloved children. "In the clinical room, the lights were used to program the day’s events. The bright light continually flashed starting with 7 lights, then six dots, then five dots, then four dots, then three, then two dots, then 1 dot. In the blindness of the lights, we could hear the doctor’s voice, "LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU NOT." over and over again. A child could have a false trust when the lights flashed 7 dots. By the time one dot was flashing, the child’s terror had once again risen. The doctor never pulled the last petal off for us, but we can’t forget how he teased us. He smiled and walked away, ‘NO, I LOVE YOU.’ and walked away."



Daisy Girl Scouts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girl_Scout_Ranks
Daisy is the initial level of Girl Scouting. Named for Juliette "Daisy" Gordon Low, Daisies are in kindergarten.[1] In August 2006 the National Council of GSUSA voted to change the level system so that as of 1 October 2008, Daisies will include girls in kindergarten and 1st grade. They typically meet in groups of five to ten and have adult leaders that plan activities to introduce them to Girl Scouts. Daisies earn the Promise Center and Petals, which focus on the Girl Scout Law and are placed on the front of the tunic in a daisy design. They may also earn or receive patches for the back of their uniform, which consists of a light blue tunic, a blue membership disk, and the Daisy Pin. They use the Daisy Girl Scout Activity Book to work on activities.

http://www.girlscoutsht.org/sunshop/index.php/action/category/start/0/id/1/

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multiples?(note the 'cookie-cutter' feel to the logo)

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Official Girl Scout Daisy Insignia Tab

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Bridge To Brownie Girl Scouts Award: Daisy bridging award earned by completing a set of activities described in the Guide To Daisy Girl Scout Leaders book (Daisies move up to next level, the Brownies)

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Moving from one Girl Scout age level to another is called bridging. This pin signifies completion, as a Senior Girl Scout, of specified commitment to Girl Scouting.


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Brownie Girl Scout Wings show that a girl has completed her years as a Brownie. She is ready to "fly up" to Junior Girl Scouting. This is a tradition that goes back to when Brownie Girl Scout leaders were called Brown Owls. The wings are worn on the Junior sash or vest, centered horizontally directly under the Junior Aide Award, or if she does not have that, directly under the Bridge to Junior Award. The Brownie Wings are worn on the Girls 11-17 vest or sash directly under the Membership Stars and Personalized ID Pin. The Brownie Girl Scout Wings are often given at year-end award ceremonies.



http://www.localmemories.com/images/Vintage%20Girl%20Scout%20Logo.jpg
vintage girl scouts logo

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http://www.girlscouts.org/program/gs_central/insignia/where_to_place/daisy/images/howtowear_mockup_16.jpg
Daisy Scout insignia

http://www.aswaterspassingby.org/glogo.png
This is GLogo, it’s the symbol for “girllove”, the preference for girls.

http://www.aswaterspassingby.org/pedophilebutterflyec2.png
And THIS, is CLogo. It is the symbol for pedophiles who do not discriminate between genders, they are equal opportunists when it comes to child molestation, interested in both boys and girls.


From' Daisy's Dead Air' blogspot

http://daisysdeadair.blogspot.com/2008/02/deadhead-brownies.html
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2295/2263401457_6e2c755824.jpg?v=0
I refer to lovely LM, at left, local Deadhead Brownie. Brownie as in a tiny Girl Scout. LM gives us the 3-fingered Girl Scout salute, and holds up coveted GIRL SCOUT COOKIES!!!! In particular, my favorites: CARAMEL DELITES! Tiny little cookies that are a bang-up nutritional bargain at 75 calories each, 9.5 carbs and 3.5 grams of fat (yes, saturated). Experience has shown me that you can never have enough Caramel Delites. Every Deadhead household needs multiple boxes!
And I always do my part.

Please matronize your local Girl Scouts, and buy lots of cookies!

this is the blog of a 51 year old woman by the name of Daisy,


http://www.milan-berlin.lib.oh.us/Pictures%20on%20Website/bhgirlscouts2.jpg

http://goshop.girlscouts.org/gsusaonline/Images/Primary/11377p.jpg
Girl Scouts butterfly embroidered pin

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girl_Scout_Ranks
Daisy is the initial level of Girl Scouting. Named for Juliette "Daisy" Gordon Low, Daisies are in kindergarten


In 2005, Juliette Low was honored as part of a new national monument in Washington, D.C. named The Extra Mile Points of Light Volunteer Pathway. The monument's medallions, laid into sidewalks adjacent to the White House, form a one-mile walking path.[

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/59/168543246_925af8e36d.jpg?v=0

http://sites.target.com/images/corporate/community/np_logo_pointslight.gif

[hunkahunka]

The Dean Corll gay cult murders took place in Texas, and check this out:

http://www.thewe.cc/thewei/wnd/texas_youth_commission_logo.gif


Embattled AG now accused in teen sex scandal 'cover-up'

Attorney General Gonzales among officials who allegedly ignored abuse of minor boys

March 25, 2007
By Jerome R. Corsi

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, both already under siege for other matters, are now being accused of failing to prosecute officers of the Texas Youth Commission after a Texas Ranger investigation documented that guards and administrators were sexually abusing the institution's teenage boy inmates.

US Attorney General Bush appointee Alberto Gonzales

US Attorney General Bush appointee Alberto Gonzales
Among the charges in the Texas Ranger report were that administrators would rouse boys from their sleep for the purpose of conducting all-night sex parties.
Retained job despite pornography on state computers
Ray Brookins, one of the officials named in the report, was a Texas prison guard before being hired at the youth commission school.
As a prison guard, Brookins had a history of disciplinary and petty criminal records dating back 21 years.
He retained his job despite charges of using pornography on the job, including viewing nude photos of men and women on state computers.

Systematically abusing youth inmates

The Texas Youth Comission controversy traces back to a criminal investigation conducted in 2005 by Texas Ranger Brian Burzynski.
The investigation revealed key employees at the West Texas State School in Pyote, Texas, were systematically abusing youth inmates in their custody.
Burzynski presented his findings to the attorney general in Texas, to the U.S. Attorney Sutton, and to the Department of Justice civil rights division.
Received no interest in prosecuting — Karl Rove orchestrating role
From all three, Burzynski received no interest in prosecuting the alleged sexual offenses.
"This case demonstrates that a partisan political agenda, with Karl Rove in an orchestrating role, has penetrated the Justice Department and subverted fair-minded administration of the law," Matt Angle, director of the Lone Star Project, told WND.
It's just the latest controversy for Sutton, Gonzales and the Bush administration's direction of the Justice Department.
Earlier, Sutton's decisions to prosecute two Border Patrol agents and Deputy Sheriff Gil Hernandez were criticized as having been influenced by the intervention of the Mexican government.
Gonzales is under heavy congressional pressure in the controversy over the recent forced resignations of eight U.S. attorneys.
At issue is whether the Bush administration is directing the Justice Department to pursue politically motivated prosecutions at the expense of fair or even-handed law enforcement.

Would have to demonstrate boys subjected to sexual abuse
— felt physical pain
In the Texas Youth Commission scandal, Texas Ranger official Burzynski received a July 28, 2005, letter from Bill Baumann, assistant U.S. attorney in Sutton's office, declining prosecution on the argument that under 18 U.S.C. Section 242, the government would have to demonstrate that the boys subjected to sexual abuse sustained "bodily injury."
Baumann wrote that, "As you know, our interviews of the victims revealed that none sustained 'bodily injury.'"
Baumann's letter continued, adding a definition of the phrase "bodily injury," as follows: "Federal courts have interpreted this phrase to include physical pain.
None of the victims have claimed to have felt physical pain during the course of the sexual assaults which they described."
Must demonstrate perpetrator
— knowingly caused victim to engage in sexual act
Baumann's letter further suggested that insufficient evidence existed to prove the offenders in the Texas Youth Commission case had used force in their alleged acts of pedophilia:
"A felony charge under 18 U.S.C. Section 242 can also be predicated on the commission of 'aggravated sexual abuse' or the attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse.
The offense of aggravated sexual abuse is proven with evidence that the perpetrator knowingly caused his victim to engage in a sexual act (which can include contact between the mouth and penis) by using force against the victim or by threatening or placing the victim in fear that the victim (or any other person) will be subjected to death, serious bodily injury or kidnapping.
I do not believe that sufficient evidence exists to support a charge that either Brookins or Hernandez used force to cause victims to engage in a sexual act."
No action because young imprisoned boys
— even enjoyed the acts
Baumann's letter went so far as to suggest that the victims may have willingly participated in, or even enjoyed, the acts of pedophilia involved:
"As you know, consent is frequently an issue in sexual assault cases.
Although none of the victims admit that they consented to the sexual contact, none resisted or voiced any objection to the conduct.
Several of the victims suggested that they were simply 'getting off' on the school administrator."
Rejected charges administrators at the Texas Youth Commission
— lengthened sentences of boys 'reluctant to participate'
Baumann's letter also rejected Burzynski's charges that the administrators at the Texas Youth Commission facility in West Texas had used their position of authority to force the inmates to participate in the sexual acts or that the administrators had lengthened the sentences of the boys to retain willing participants or punish those reluctant to participate.
Essential to show the victim
— was in fact victimized
Baumann wrote:
"In order for the government to be successful in a criminal prosecution, it would be essential for us to show that the victim was in fact victimized.
Most of the victims were aware of the power that the school principal and assistant superintendent held over them, but none were able to describe retaliative acts committed by either the principal or assistant superintendent.
Although it is apparent that many students were retained at West Texas State School long after their initial release date, it would be difficult to prove that either Mr. Brookins or Mr. Hernandez prevented their release."
On Sept. 27, 2005, the U.S. Department of Justice Civil Rights Division declined prosecution in a letter written to Lemuel Harrison, the Texas Youth Commission superintendent at the West Texas State School.
In that letter, Justice Department section chief Albert Moskowitz wrote that "evidence does not establish a prosecutable violation of the federal criminal civil rights statutes."
When the word came from Washington
— that's when Baumann wrote letter declining prosecution
Angle maintains the decision not to prosecute was purely political.
"The U.S. attorney's office in Texas actually prepared indictments in this case," Angle told WND.
"But when the word came from Washington, that's when Baumann wrote his letter declining prosecution.
Sutton's office dropped the matter on the desk of the local district attorney, but nobody from Sutton's office said 'if you can’t go on this case, we'll help you out.'"
WND asked Angle to explain how politics drove the decisions not to prosecute.
Describe systematic and widespread abuse of juveniles
— yet they determine that the evidence is not sufficient to warrant federal prosecution
"If you read the letters from Sutton's office or from DOJ, it's really amazing what abuse they describe and then downplay as not being serious," Angle explained.
"They describe systematic and widespread abuse of juveniles who were held in these facilities by the people who were administering these facilities, and they acknowledge this fully, yet they determine that the evidence is not sufficient to warrant federal prosecution."
Angle explained to WND that he found both letters shocking.
"The letters justify not pursuing these cases because, number one, there is no evidence that any of these juveniles felt physical pain while they were being assaulted, and the letters use the word 'assaulted,'" he said.
"And then also, they rejected prosecution because none of these juveniles stated in the investigations that they resisted and objected, which of course the facts of the report show to be the case.
This case developed right in the middle of Governor Perry's 2006 re-election campaign.
While Texas is a Republican state, and the Republicans expected to win, still at that time, Governor Perry was facing an election challenge from Carole Strayhorn, a third party candidate who was also a former Republican comptroller in Texas."
He continued:
"I would speculate that the political powers in Texas and Washington in the Republican Party were not interested in this sex scandal coming to light. Sutton and Gonzales let their political responsibilities outstrip their legal responsibilities, and as a result you had children who were in danger of sexual abuse and were left in that danger."
Angle says that while the U.S. Justice Department and Texas attorney general's office were not prosecuting in this case, they were actively pursuing minor voter fraud issues with only a handful of allegations to go on.
On March 2, 2007, Governor Rick Perry appointed Jay Kimbrough, his former staff chief and homeland security director, to serve as "special master" to lead an investigation into the Texas Youth Commission sex abuse scandal.
Shortly thereafter, the commission stopped a hiring practice that had allowed convicted felons to work as administrators in the system.
The practice had involved a requirement that prior criminal records be destroyed for employees hired by the commission.

On March 17, 2007, the entire Texas Youth Commission governing board resigned.

The Texas Youth Commission is the state's juvenile corrections agency, charged "with the care, custody, rehabilitation, and reestablishment in society of Texas' most chronically delinquent or serious juvenile offenders."
Between the age of 10 and 17 when committed
— molesters can continue until 21st birthdays
Inmates are felony-level offenders between the age of 10 and 17 when they are committed.

The commission can maintain jurisdiction over offenders until their 21st birthdays.
The Lone Star Project is organized as a political research and policy analysis project of the Lone Star Fund, a federal political action committee organized in Texas.

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http://blog.andthensome.nl/wp-content/images/2008/02/abu.jpg
http://worldofwonder.net/images/england.jpg

http://www.biblestudysite.com/abu%20graib%20-%20Christ-posed%20victim.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hYCKh29DLv8/SPzLsAPQy_I/AAAAAAAABOw/8KgF4YL_9NI/s400/sop.htm

Standard Operating Procedure, new film about Abu Ghraib
Manadel al-Jamadi was beaten to death, and his body allegedly
kept on ice. I have to wonder if he was not subjected to freezing torture
while still alive as per mk cold trauma.
After he died his body was allowed to rot. Again I wonder if this dead body
was used to inflict trauma on other prisoners.


http://bp2.blogger.com/_vHf7qNR87Z4/RgvzaXzoCcI/AAAAAAAAAJw/mjLWaSikcdQ/s400/abu+ghraib.bmp


http://www.cornwall911truth.info/pages/images/warcrimes/war6a.jpg
Manadel al-Jamadi
http://ancapistan.typepad.com/unfairwitness/images/torturefather_son.jpg
wife and child of Manadel al-Jamadi, with photo of his dead body

http://www.historycommons.org/events-images/a467_abu_ghraib_charles_graner_over_manadel_al-jamadi_2050081722-7569.jpg
body packed in ice

http://blog.wired.com/defense/images/2008/02/28/abu2.jpg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_AkHeUaEva5k/RginzfyrJHI/AAAAAAAACDs/m_Ex9Zq2CIY/s400/Abu-Ghraib-Prison-Photos11jun04p09.jpg

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=que6R0kzT38

[hunkahunka]

http://www.emergentchaos.com/images/05-nov/abu-ghraib.jpg
check out this tough macho man in action

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/u_woman.jpg

[soulja]

interesting stuff as usual guys..

yesterday i saw an old Derren Brown show, interestingly he had two brothers on who are famous artists, selling some of their works for 100.000 and more.
the picture featured on the show was called ''Arachnokitten''

http://www.rmjs.co.uk/db/totmb.jpg

Jake and Dinos Chapman

Jake Chapman (born 1966) and Dinos Chapman (born 1962) are brothers and English conceptual artists who work almost exclusively in collaboration with each other. They came to prominence as part of the Young British Artists movement promoted by Charles Saatchi.

Artworks

Jake Chapman was born in Cheltenham and Dinos Chapman in London. Their father was a British art teacher and their mother an orthodox Greek Cypriot. They were brought up in Cheltenham but moved to Hastings where they attended a local comprehensive before attending the University of East London's Art college in Greengate, Plaistow and then enrolling at The Royal College of Art, when they worked as assistants to the artists Gilbert and George. They began their own collaboration in 1992. The brothers have often made pieces with plastic models or fibreglass mannequins of people. An early piece consisted of eighty-three scenes of torture and disfigurement similar to those recorded by Francisco Goya in his series of etchings, Disasters of War (a work they later returned to) rendered into small three-dimensional plastic models. One of these was later turned into a life-size work, Great Deeds Against the Dead, shown along with Zygotic Acceleration, Biogenetic, De-Sublimated Libidinal Model (Enlarged x 1000) at the Sensation exhibition in 1997.

The Chapman brothers continued the theme of anatomical and pornographic grotesque with a series of mannequins of children, sometimes fused together, with genitalia in place of facial features. Their sculpture Hell (2000) consisted of a large number of miniature figures of Nazis arranged in nine glass cases laid out in the shape of a swastika. In 2003 with a series of works named Insult to Injury, they altered a set of Goya's etchings by adding funny faces. As a protest against this piece, Aaron Barschak (who later became famous for gate-crashing Prince William's 21st birthday party dressed as Osama bin Laden in a frock) threw a pot of red paint over Jake Chapman during a talk he was giving in May 2003. The Chapmans' oeuvre has also referenced work by William Blake, Auguste Rodin and Nicolas Poussin. Jake Chapman has published a number of catalogue essays and pieces of art criticism in his own right, as well as a book, Meatphysics, published by Creation Books in 2003. The brothers have also designed a label for Becks beer as part of a series of limited edition labels produced by contemporary artists. Using a title from the Tim Burton film, in 2004 they curated A Nightmare Before Christmas as part of the occasional All Tomorrow's Parties music festival at Camber Sands.


Jake and Dinos Chapman. Death, 2003, in the Turner Prize.The Chapman brothers were nominated for the Turner Prize in 2003. As well as including Insult to Injury, their Turner Prize exhibit debuted two new works Sex and Death. Sex directly referenced their previous work Great Deeds against the Dead. The original work shows three dismembered corpses hanging from a tree, Sex shows the same scenario, but in a heightened state of decay. Additionally clown's noses are now present on the skulls of the corpses; snakes, rats and insects (like those found in joke shops) cover the piece. Death is two sex dolls, placed on top of each other, head-to-toe in the 69 sex position: despite appearing to be made of plastic it is in fact cast in bronze and painted to look like plastic. On 24 May 2004, a fire in a storage warehouse destroyed many works from the Saatchi collection including Hell. The brothers subsequently made a very similar, though more extensive, work called Fucking Hell.

In 2007, they were criticised by journalist Johann Hari for adopting an anti-Enlightenment philosophy, and for Jake Chapman saying that the boys who murdered Liverpool toddler James Bulger performed "a good social service"[1]. Jake Chapman responded by calling Johann Hari "fat-faced ugly [and] four-eyed" and "a fascist", and claimed the Bulger quote and others had been "stripped from the serious debate in which they belong"[2].

It was announced in December 2007 that the brothers would play Big Brother during 2008's Big Brother: Celebrity Hijack.They had to pull out for undisclosed reasons.

In May 2008 the White Cube gallery exhibited 20 authenticated watercolours and oils painted by Adolf Hitler, which the brothers have defaced with hippie motifs. Jake Chapman described most of the dictator's works as 'awful landscapes' which they had 'prettified'. Also included in the exhibition was Fucking Hell, the (somewhat altered) remake of Hell.


Personal Lives
Jake Chapman married model Rosemary Ferguson in Christ Church, Spitalfields, London in 2004. Guests at the wedding included Kate Moss, Sadie Frost, musician Noel Gallagher’s ex-wife Meg Mathews and society photographer Sam Taylor-Wood. Rosemary Ferguson gave birth to their first child the following year. Dinos Chapman is married to Tiphaine de Lussey, who runs the children's clothes label Miss Fleur. The couple have two daughters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_and_Dinos_Chapman

check out some of their artwork
http://www.whitecube.com/artists/chapman/mannequin/

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check out some of their artwork
http://www.whitecube.com/artists/chapman/mannequin/


A zygote (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zygote) (from Greek ζυγωτός zugōtos "joined" or "yoked", from ζυγοῦν zugoun "to join" or "to yoke")[1] is a cell that is the result of fertilization. That is, two haploid cells—usually an ovum from a female and a sperm cell from a male—merge into a single diploid cell called the zygote (or zygocyte).

Twins

Twins and multiple births can be monozygotic (identical) or dizygotic (fraternal), meaning they arise from one or several (strictly, two) fertilization events. Polyspermic zygotes in mice have been manipulated so as to remove one of the two male pronuclei and made to survive birth

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/October%2008/24%2010%2008%20DNA/chapman01.jpg


makes me think of 'dominos', snowflakes, melting, chains and links.....(all traumas)


brown.

[hunkahunka]

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/October%2008/24%2010%2008%20DNA/chapman01.jpg


makes me think of 'dominos', snowflakes, melting, chains and links.....(all traumas)


brown.

reminds me of :

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/October%2008/21%2010%2008/faceless005.jpg

[mrguitarbear]

The Chapman Brothers stuff is really horrible , really grotesque.

Some of their stuff went up in Saatchi's warehouse fire in 2004 , that always seemed really suspicious at the time. As far as I know there was an investigation into why the fire began but I don't know if any cause for it was determined. Arson was definitely suspected.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/3748179.stm

[hunkahunka]

M. Manson goes to Trial in $20M Lawsuit
/ Gidget Gein found Dead

A trial date of November 3rd, 2008 has been set for the lawsuit against Marilyn Manson by former band member, Stephen Bier, aka Madonna Wayne Gacy. The $20M lawsuit charges Manson with squandering the band’s money among other things on “sick and disturbing” Nazi paraphernalia and taxidermy of human remains used for decorative purposes.
http://img1.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/b/3/27/779/27779563_1214306199_GidgetGein.gif
A former Manson band member, Brad Stewart, aka Gidget Gein, was found dead on Oct. 9, 2008 in Burbank, CA. The cause of death is “suspected” drug overdose. Curiously, he happened to die only a week after it was publicized that the $20M lawsuit would not be dismissed but go forward in a court trial. Click here to read the story. It is an interesting coincidence that he died in the same week, that Marilyn Manson received the certainly very traumatic news that he would have a trial in open court, in which he stands to lose $20M. Gidget Gein had also sued Manson over similar issues of breach of contract and back pay and had received an out-of-court settlement of undisclosed amount. If there were any plans for him to testify in the upcoming trial, it is certainly a very untimely and unfortunate death. The L.A. County Coroner’s office has said that it will not release any information other than the “suspected” cause of death until the family is informed about the situation.

[hunkahunka]

video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ-DkS-XOOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68DRqV6Z760&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXG7siz2snM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgUc7tEfq1E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKXgVJbIlOI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NCOIPThS8E&feature=related
This is an internet radio interview of Illuminati defector, 'Svali.' She talks about her life in the Illuminati, her work as a programmer, why she left, how the Illuminati has infiltrated world governments, (including the U.S. government), and what the Illuminati 'New World Order' agenda is.

This interview was conducted on January 18, 2006 by Greg Szymanski of http://arcticbeacon.com.

[sunya]

Pheew, what an epic read. I'm sure I had some points to make 3000 post ago, let's see what I can remember. This'll be a bit of a mish-mash but here goes:

Jayne Mansfield's decapitation is a myth.

Rumors that Mansfield was decapitated are untrue, though she did suffer severe head trauma. This urban legend was spawned by the appearance in police photographs of a crashed automobile with its top virtually sheared off, and what resembles a blonde-haired head tangled in the car's smashed windshield. It is believed that this was either a wig that Mansfield was wearing or was her actual hair and scalp.[35] The death certificate stated that the immediate cause of Mansfield's death was a "crushed skull with avulsion of cranium and brain."[36] Following her death, the NHTSA began requiring an underride guard, a strong bar made of steel tubing, to be installed on all tractor-trailers. This bar is also known as a Mansfield bar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayne_Mansfield#Death

Can't remember what has been said about Anton LaVey, but pretty much everything that gets passed on about him is likely to be a myth too, including his involvement with Marilyn Monroe, his role in Rosemary's Baby, etc. Check out the link.

"I'm one helluva liar. Most of my adult life, I've been accused of being a charlatan, a phony, an impostor.
I guess that makes me about as close to what the Devil's supposed to be, as anyone. It's true. I lie
constantly, incessantly. Because I lie so often, I'd really be full of shit if I didn't keep my mouth shut
and my bowels open."

http://www.churchofsatan.org/aslv.html

System of a Down got a mention somewhere along the line. Nothing to worry about there, they expose all the same stuff as the people on this forum. (Utilising drugs to pay for secret wars around the world, Drugs are now your global policy, Now you police the world, etc.) Did start to suck a bit after the first two albums though.

[sunya]

http://www.answers.com/topic/military-slang-1

Military History Companion:
military slang

Food and drink feature prominently in slang. A German mobile field cooker was Gulaschkanone (goulash cannon)

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2002/12/images/johansson_feldkuche_03.jpg




Bohemian Grove menu poster:
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/October%2008/19%2010%2008/bohemiagrave.jpg
canon, ham, corned beef





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Pretty sure this says capon, look at the other ps. :cool:

ca⋅pon
   /ˈkeɪpɒn, -pən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [key-pon, -puhn] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
a cockerel castrated to improve the flesh for use as food.

Possibly an interesting menu choice nonetheless.

[sunya]

I feel duty-bound to post these links about Fritz Springmeier. I don't know much about him and it could be a disinfo campaign, but in the interests of balanced research this is essential reading. I'd be interested to hear refutations or corroborations of any of it, or any details you guys know about either of his incarcerations.

Thanks

p.s. ty for the awesome thread. Not quite sure what to do with myself now. :confused:

http://www.eaec.org/expose/FritzSpringmeier1.htm
http://www.eaec.org/expose/FritzSpringmeier2.htm

[emerald]

Perhaps a warning for Oscar winner JENNIFER HUDSON? Don't tell that simple crooks killed her mother&brother, it all goes up there...

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/jennifer-hudsons-mother-brother-killed-reports/14617#comments

[sunya]

Might as well get my post-count up I suppose. :)


http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/helixtris/51MGZ7MWA8L_SS500_.jpg


Restless eighteen-year-old Alice Brown discovers to her amazement that the world of Wonderland (renamed Underland, and definitely no place for children) has begun to take young women - or 'girlings' - from our dimension as its sex slaves. In a quest to liberate them, she encounters the perverse wiles of the White Rabbit, Hatter and Hare, and a less than regal Duchess and Queen of Hearts. And it's not only the Cheshire cat's smile, Alice finds, that lingers once the rest has vanished...A highly original and downright filthy fantasy tale.



http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/helixtris/41XHgLCeVbL_SS500_.jpg


Young Alice Brown has an unusual problem. Only another trip to Underland can solve it , and her bedroom mirror is the only means of return. Used once more as a pawn by the Red Queen, this time literally, and enslaved by the greedy Tweedledum and Tweedledee. Alice Must use her willingness to submit to the bizarre demands made of her if she is to succeed in returning to normal. A delightfully perverse retelling of a classic tale, by the author of The Obedient Alice.

Can't find any link between this book and the band of the same name. The band formed in 1987; I'm pretty sure these books go back a fair bit, but the only dates I can find online are for the most recent editions.


http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/helixtris/51MopO7ClOL_SS500_.jpg


The Cheshire Cat travels from Underland to warn Alice that her friends are threatened by the mad Queen of Hearts and need her to help liberate themselves from sexual slavery. Accompanied by her attractive and surpisingly perverse college tutor, Alice finally finds her proper place in Underland. A delightfully perverse retelling of a classic tale, by the author of The Obedient Alice and Alice in Chains.


http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/helixtris/512RBGDyCrL_SS500_-1.jpg


Probing the lowest levels of the outwardly respectable London headquarters of Shiller plc, Vanessa Buckingham stumbles into a hidden world of twenty first century slavery. Turned into a living puppet by Shiller's enigmatic director, Vanessa is forced to record every detail of the slave-girls' lives; from intimate psychological testing at the mysterious Fellgrish Institute, through strict training and ultimate submission to the clients who hire them. In the process Vanessa must confront both her own true nature and a terrible dilemma: can there be such a thing as a willing slave? Should she expose Shiller's activities as immoral - or let herself become another commodity in its girlflesh trade?

[deckard]

Alice is a naughty girl, she needs a good spanking.

On kurt, what I have heard, was he was shot by a double barrelled shot gun directly to the back of the head, I would like to know how he managed to pull the trigger from that angle, human arms cannot reach back that far to pull a trigger.

Also most people if not all, choosing to kill themselves this way, would have put the barrel in their mouth, or under their chin.

If Im wrong about any of these details, please feel free to correct me.

[sunya]

Alice is a naughty girl, she needs a good spanking.

On kurt, what I have heard, was he was shot by a double barrelled shot gun directly to the back of the head, I would like to know how he managed to pull the trigger from that angle, human arms cannot reach back that far to pull a trigger.

Also most people if not all, choosing to kill themselves this way, would have put the barrel in their mouth, or under their chin.

If Im wrong about any of these details, please feel free to correct me.


Is there a source for that? I haven't come across the shot-from-behind theory anywhere, although I haven't seen any specifics either - it's always 'gunshot wound to the head.'

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Cannibal cult mother who skinned son and made him eat his own flesh gets 9 years in jail

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/20/czech-mother-in-grail-mov_n_108271.html

June 20, 2008

A cannibal cult mother who tortured her son in a locked cellar while relatives skinned him and forced him to eat his own flesh has been jailed for nine years.

Klara Mauerova, 31 - a member of a sinister religious cult and her sister Katerina led the sickening torture of her eight-year-old son Ondrej and his ten year-old brother Jakub.

A court in Brno in Czech Republic heard how relatives partially skinned Ondrej and forced him to eat his own flesh.

Klara Mauerova, right, has been jailed for nine years for abusing her sons

The judge also jailed Katerina, 35, for ten years for her role in the sickening abuse.

The two boys had told judges how their mother and relatives had stubbed cigarettes out on their bare skin, whipped them with belts, and tried to drown them. They were also sexually abused and forced to cut themselves with knives.

The terrified youngsters said they were kept in cages or handcuffed to tables and made to stand in their own urine for days.

Klara Mauerova, far left, and fellow torturer Barbara Skrlova are pictured with Klara's sons Jakub, 10, foreground, and Ondrej, 8

The sick sisters - both members of weird religious cult the Grail Movement - refused to reveal why they tortured the brothers.

But state prosecutor Zuzana Zamoravcova said: 'Their aim was to make the boys blindly serve their religious goals.'

Judge Pavel Goth said as he sentenced the women: 'Their aim was to create a person with a completely broken will. Ondrej and Jakub were repeatedly psychologically and physically tyrannised and held in locked rooms.'

Mauerova's sister Katerina was jailed for ten years for her part in the torture

Another defendant, 34-year-old Barbora Skrlova, was also jailed for five years for her part in the torture. Three others who took part in the abuse were also given jail terms.

Hana Basova, 28, and Jan Skrla, 25, were sentenced to seven years each while another man, Jan Turek, was jailed for five years.

Skrlova had posed as an innocent 13-year-old girl when police arrived to free the boys. She later ran away to Norway but was traced earlier this year by Czech police who brought her back to face trial.

Barbara Skrlova, seen here in a beanie hat, is pictured after her arrest in Norway. She posed as a 13-year-old girl to escape capture

Mauerova at first admitted abusing her children but she said she had been manipulated by her sister Katerina and Skrlova.

All three of them had been part of the Grail Movement cult which claims to have hundreds of followers in Britain as well as tens of thousands of others world wide.


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The sick abuse was discovered when a neighbour installed a TV baby monitor to keep watch on his new daughter.

But it picked up the signal from an identical monitor next door showing one of the victims beaten, naked and chained in a cellar.

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Mauerova had installed it so she could gloat over her victims' suffering from the comfort of her kitchen.
The defendants are expected to launch an appeal.

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Klara Mauerova and her two sons

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Cannibal cult mother who skinned son and made him eat his own flesh gets 9 years in jail
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/20/czech-mother-in-grail-mov_n_108271.html
June 20, 2008
A cannibal cult mother who tortured her son in a locked cellar while relatives skinned him and forced him to eat his own flesh has been jailed for nine years.
Klara Mauerova, 31 - a member of a sinister religious cult and her sister Katerina led the sickening torture of her eight-year-old son Ondrej and his ten year-old brother Jakub.
A court in Brno in Czech Republic heard how relatives partially skinned Ondrej and forced him to eat his own flesh. [I pasted information briefly mentioning the skinning alive trauma programming technique in this X-Files post ('The child that is not loved is skinned alive before the other children'; in this case the other child being the other brother) and also mentioned its use in MK randomly in the Kylie post]
Klara Mauerova, right, has been jailed for nine years for abusing her sons
The judge also jailed Katerina, 35, for ten years for her role in the sickening abuse.
The two boys had told judges how their mother and relatives had stubbed cigarettes out on their bare skin, whipped them with belts, and tried to drown them. They were also sexually abused and forced to cut themselves with knives.
The terrified youngsters said they were kept in cages or handcuffed to tales and made to stand in their own urine for days.
Klara Mauerova, far left, and fellow torturer Barbara Skrlova are pictured with Klara's sons Jakub, 10, foreground, and Ondrej, 8
The sick sisters - both members of weird religious cult the Grail Movement - refused to reveal why they tortured the brothers.
But state prosecutor Zuzana Zamoravcova said: 'Their aim was to make the boys blindly serve their religious goals.'
Judge Pavel Goth said as he sentenced the women: 'Their aim was to create a person with a completely broken will. Ondrej and Jakub were repeatedly psychologically and physically tyrannised and held in locked rooms.'
Mauerova's sister Katerina was jailed for ten years for her part in the torture
Another defendant, 34-year-old Barbora Skrlova, was also jailed for five years for her part in the torture. Three others who took part in the abuse were also given jail terms.
Hana Basova, 28, and Jan Skrla, 25, were sentenced to seven years each while another man, Jan Turek, was jailed for five years.
Skrlova had posed as an innocent 13-year-old girl when police arrived to free the boys. She later ran away to Norway but was traced earlier this year by Czech police who brought her back to face trial.
Barbara Skrlova, seen here in a beanie hat, is pictured after her arrest in Norway. She posed as a 13-year-old girl to escape capture
Mauerova at first admitted abusing her children but she said she had been manipulated by her sister Katerina and Skrlova.
All three of them had been part of the Grail Movement cult which claims to have hundreds of followers in Britain as well as tens of thousands of others world wide.
The sick abuse was discovered when a neighbour installed a TV baby monitor to keep watch on his new daughter.
But it picked up the signal from an identical monitor next door showing one of the victims beaten, naked and chained in a cellar.
Mauerova had installed it so she could gloat over her victims' suffering from the comfort of her kitchen.
The defendants are expected to launch an appeal.

Eastern Europe has to be one of the most vile depraved places on earth, anyone who sheds tears for deathrow inmates, would find it hard to put a case for these monsters.

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Grail Movement
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Grail Movement is an organization which originated in Germany in the late 1940s, inspired by the work of Oskar Ernst Bernhardt (also known by his pen name Abdruschin or Abd-ru-shin), principally In the Light of Truth: The Grail Message. Abd-ru-shin did not found the organization; the movement as it exists today was formally organized by followers.

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The Grail Movement has been described both as a new religious movement and as a cult.[1][2][3] Most members reside in Western Europe (primarily Germany and France), and the group claims to have hundreds of members in Britain and thousands worldwide.[4] It can also be found in Quebec, Canada and in some West African countries such as Nigeria and Côte d'Ivoire.

Worldwide, there are about 10,000 members of the Grail Movement.[5] A declaration of the personal commitment to adhere to the principles of the Grail message can be made by a request for the “Sealing”; a Grail Act (ceremony) that takes place during one of three annual festivals. This, however, is a personal decision on the part of the individual and leads neither to commitment to an organisation nor to formal links with other adherents.

The world view of members of the Grail Movement is based mainly on the work In the Light of Truth, written by Oskar Ernst Bernhardt and published under the name Abd-ru-shin, which believers consider