Cobain murdered by CIA

[hunkahunka]

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg90/SecretSunBlog/oscar3.jpg

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2008/02/drama-ritual-and-ausur-goes-to.html

[hunkahunka]

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/dre500/e587/e58720yswfh.jpg

http://www.euphorics.com/images/Born-to-Sing1.jpg
interesting spiral S's

http://www.musicimport.us/images/sdimages/disk16/1319005.jpg

http://www.songlyricscollection.com/lyrics/c/connie-smith/born-to-sing/born-to-sing.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1237/799879974_2d68115715_o.jpg

http://www.fleeceez.com/Pics/bg_starbaby.jpg

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http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n29/n147217.jpg

http://www.larrycarlson.com/images/1118111_larrycarlson.jpg

[soulja]

great posts guys!

don't have much to add to the thread (btw 100+ pages ;)) today apart from a few 'fruit' examples

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/the_cherry_project_cover_band_7_200.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/normal__e772b4204459c50cda5b14ed4e5.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/CHERRY01.jpg

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[hunkahunka]

http://www.usasoda.com/images/ccfruit1a.jpg


couldn't resist a comparison of the guy above
with the guy below:

http://www.observationdeck.org/lip/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/tinky-winky-sml.JPG
and check out the masonic triangle on 'Tinky Winky's' head

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EP8CK7KHL._SS500_.jpg
Notice that 'Tinky' is the tallest, the most 'in tune'.
http://www.vgmuseum.com/scans/psx/02/play.jpg
He is clearly the leader.
http://www.toyadventure.co.uk/images/tinky%20winky%20counts.jpg

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff28/squid_ink666/still%20life/flotsam%20bag/gnarly.jpg

http://www.videomusicnmp3.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/teletubbies.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://i.testfreaks.com/images/products/600x400/108/pride-fighting-championships.297580.jpg
Playstation 2 game

http://www.retrogames.it/immagini%5Cfoto%5Cdreamcast%5CDCrainbowsix.jpg
Rainbow Six video game (note the spiral)

http://www.pekarna.si/images/Animation%20Hypnospiral.gif


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b231/refinish69/gay%20pride/_41228327_soldier_203body_ap.jpg

http://www.caratulas.info/juegos/R/Rainbow-six-rogue-spear-Dreamcast.jpg
Rainbow Six video game

http://www.psy.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/colorspiralillusion02.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0ey34r87BHgyS/610x.jpg[/b]

http://www.imcworldwide.org/blog/afghanistan/uploaded_images/IMG_0056-705316.JPG
the West's response to muslim sexism:
http://peacework.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/Abu%20Ghraib%20Torture-715244.jpg

[hunkahunka]

check out the torture pics from Abu Ghraib, even one with a decomposed corpse

http://djiin.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/new-photos-from-abu-ghraib/

Are Abu Ghraib/Guantamamo Bay etc. a center for trauma-based creation of mk slaves?

[americana]

check out the torture pics from Abu Ghraib, even one with a decomposed corpse

http://djiin.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/new-photos-from-abu-ghraib/

Are Abu Ghraib/Guantamamo Bay etc. a center for trauma-based creation of mk slaves?

That is a very compelling idea.

In addition, there's the "disjunctive" behavior of the soldiers there. Smiling and grinning and giving thumbs up, even next to a dead body? This thumbs up sign appears again and again in Abu Ghraib photos and many others taken in the war.

[brown velvet]

Here are links to what could be a hoax..or if not, it's explosive.

It is about a so called company called GAALT, and be prepared for a lot of reading!.

http://www.freedomdomain.com/GAALT/GAALT.html

http://www.freedomdomain.com/GAALT/GAALTpage2.html

There is more info on the site, called FREEDOM DOMAIN.

There are also threads on this in Above Top Secret forum.

GAALT -Most Powerful Family/ Corporation in World? Thread started earlier, very interesting :)



brown

[cheeb]

http://www.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/01/mkolsen.jpg

Mary-Kate Olsen , connected to the mystery surounding the death of Heath Ledger.

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Nice butterflies girls !

Bit Rusty At The Moment Due To A 5 Day Jazz Festival..!!!

Another way to see things is to recognize that the programmers have created “power words” to which they have attached memory and programming. If a de-programmer observes closely the word usage of the victim, you will begin to spot power words of the abuser, for instance, “white rabbit”. A cipher is when symbols are used to represent letters. One can used letter frequencies to break ciphers. Likewise, there are frequencies to codewords. The Illuminati’s intelligence agencies have programmed thousands upon thousands of slaves. There are only so many code words to pick from and some of these code words are favorites. From the co-author Fritz Springmeier’s experience, the following are favorite code words that have been used to program slaves with:

CHARLOTTE, CHECKMATE, CHRISTMAS, CLARA, CLOVERLEAF, COURIER, CRAYON, CRYSTAL, DAISY, DAVY, DELLA, DELTA, DEMON, DIANA, DINAH, DIRTY, DIME, DOT, DOVE, DRAGON, DUCK, DUMBO, EAGLE, EASY, ECHO, ELAINE, ELEPHANT, ELLEN, EMERALD, EMPIRE, ESTER, EUREKA, EVERGREEN, FAITH, FALCON, FARMER, FELIX, FIREFLY, FIVE BROTHERS, FIVE SISTERS, FLASHLIGHT, FLOSSY, FLYING + [other word], FOX, FREEZE, FRIENDSHIP, FULL HOUSE, GALAHAD, GAMMA, GARGOYLE, GEMINI, GEORGE, GIPSY, GOLEM, GOLDEN + [other word], GOOSE, GRACE, GRANNY, GREEN DIAMOND, GULL, GWEN, HADES, HALF-MOON, HAMMER, HARRIET, HAWK, HAZEL, HELENE, HELIOS, HEN, HERMES, HIGH BALL, HIGH CARD, HOLE-IN-THE-WALL, HOPE, HOPI, HOUNDDOG, HOURGLASS, HUSThER, HYDRA, ICEBERG, IDA, IMP, INCUBUS, INSECT, IRIS, IROQUOIS, ITEM, JACKASS, JAGUAR, JANET, JANICE, JASON, JASPER, JAVELIN, JENNY, JEZEBEL, JIG, JULIET, JOAN, JOSHUA, JUDY, JUPITER, KANGAROO, KANSAS, KATY, KING, KILO, KITTY, KOMET, LACE, LADY + [other word], LAMP, LAURA, LEAP FROG, LEOPARD, LIGHTNING, LILY, LION, LITTLE + [other word], LOVE, LUCKY + [other word], MAE WEST, MAGIC, MAJESTIC, MAMIE, MANDREL, MARIE, MARK, MARTHA, MAX, MEADOWS, MERCURY, MIGHTY MOUSE, MILLION DOLLAR, MINNIE MOUSE, MONA LISA, MONTE CARLO, MOTHER, MUMMY, NANCY, NAOMI, NAVAJO, NIMROD, NOAH, NORA, NUTCRACKER, OBOE, OCTOPUS, OLD FAITHFUL, OLIVE, OPAL, OPHELIA, ORION, OSCAR, OWL, OZMA, PACKAGE, PAMELA, PANDORA, PANTHER, PAPERCLIP, PAPA, PAT, PATSY, PEGASUS, PENTHOUSE, PHANTOM, PHOENIX, PINECONE, PISTOL PETE, PLATO, PLUTO, POLLY, PYTHON, QUAIL, QUEBEC, QUEEN, QUEEN BEE, QUEENIE, QUEST, QUICK SILVER, RACHEL, RAINBOW, RAM, RANGER, RASCAL, RAT, RAVEN, REBECCA, RED DIAMOND, RED HILL, RENO, REX, RHUBARB, RITA, ROBOT, ROMEO, ROOSTER, ROSIE, ROVER, RUBY, RUTH, SABRE, SAINT, SAINT + [another word], SALLY, SAN ANTONIO, SAPPHIRE, SARAH, SATURN, SCAMPER, SCOUT, SEA GULL, SEAL, SERGEANT, SERGEANT-DELTA, SHADOW, SHARK, SHENANDOAH, SHO, SICKLE, SIGMA, SILVER, SNOW + (other word), ZEBRA, ZENITH, ZERO, ZYPPER, ZOMBIE, ZULU, ZUNI.”

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Olsen Twins And Umbrellas...
Full House is an American television sitcom that ran from 1987 to 1995 on ABC. It chronicles a widower (Bob Saget) raising his three young daughters with the help of his best friend (Dave Coulier) and his brother-in-law (John Stamos)

Michelle Elizabeth Tanner (played by Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen) - Youngest of the Tanner daughters. Her first word was cookie. She has a strong bond with Jesse, who refers to her with the nicknames "Shortie", "Munchkin", "Rugrat" and "Trail Mix" (camp nickname). Michelle has her own catchphrases: "You got it, dude!"; "You're in big trouble, Mister!" and "Aww nuts". She was born on November 12, 1986.

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Million Trigger...!!!!
Before becoming an improbable dystopian-kickboxing movie toughie, the Calvin Klein model cut this Kate Bush–inspired exploration of her Slavic roots

Director Wim Wenders applies his art house touch to this Hollywood tale of an FBI agent investigating a suspicious death at a bizarre, bohemian hotel

Milla Jovovich (pronounced /ˈjɔvɔviʧ/; Serbian: Milica Jovović/Милица Јововић; Russian: Милла Йовович; Ukrainian: Мiлла Йовович; born as Milica Jovović, on December 17, 1975) is an American model, actress, musician, and fashion designer. Over her career, she has appeared in a number of science fiction and action themed films, for which music channel VH1 has referred to her as the "reigning queen of kick-butt".

Jovovich began modeling at eleven, when Richard Avedon featured her in Revlon's "Most Unforgettable Women in the World" advertisements, and she continued her career with other notable campaigns for L'Oreal cosmetics, Banana Republic, Christian Dior, Donna Karan and Versace. In 1988, she had her first professional acting role in the television film The Night Train to Kathmandu, and later that year she appeared in her first feature film, Two Moon Junction.

Director Wim Wenders applies his art house touch to this Hollywood tale of an FBI agent investigating a suspicious death at a bizarre, bohemian hotel


Jovovich began modeling at eleven, when Richard Avedon featured her in Revlon's "Most Unforgettable Women in the World" advertisements, and she continued her career with other notable campaigns for L'Oreal cosmetics, Banana Republic, Christian Dior, Donna Karan and Versace. In 1988, she had her first professional acting role in the television film The Night Train to Kathmandu, and later that year she appeared in her first feature film, Two Moon Junction.

n 1981, when Jovovich was five years old, her family left the Soviet Union for political reasons

They subsequently lived in Sacramento, California before settling in Los Angeles, California

Both her father and mother provided house cleaning services for director Brian de Palma.

At the age of nine, Jovovich began going to modeling auditions, and was signed by Prima modeling agency At eleven, Jovovich was noticed by the photographer Richard Avedon.Avedon was head of marketing at Revlon at the time, and chose Jovovich to appear with models Alexa Singer and Sandra Zatezalo in Revlon's "Most Unforgettable Women in the World" advertisements In 1987, photographers Gene Lemuel and Peter Duke took polaroids of the twelve year old Jovovich, and Lemuel later showed the photographs to Herb Ritts. Impressed, Ritts re-shot the polaroids for the October 1987 cover of the Italian fashion magazine Lei this was the first of her many cover shoots. In 1988, she made her first professional model contract. Jovovich was among other models who gained controversy for becoming involved in the industry at a young age

At age twelve in seventh grade, Jovovich left school to focus on her growing career

In an article published in 2002, Jovovich was said to be Miuccia Prada's muse and in an article published in 2003, Harpers & Queen magazine claimed Jovovich was Gianni Versace's "favourite supermodel"

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Dantes Descent Into Hell

Jovovich's mother had "raised [her] to be a movie star

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Keep It A Secret...!!!!

[hunkahunka]

here is a good Fritz Springmeir video:

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=fritz+springmeir+interview&hl=en&emb=0#

just a couple of years ago, I never would have believed a shred of this.
Now, the importance of these types of videos cannot be overstated.

[iwasprobed]

this has got to be the best explanation why Kurt Cobain is dead, imo.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/11/25/kurt_cobain,0.jpg

http://www.altx.com/interzones2/london/rock.n.roll.html


...A more believable theory about Cobain's death suggests he was the victim of a CIA mind control experiment. An individual claiming to represent 'a private network of researchers' contacted me about this and arranged a meeting in the Temple Church on Fleet Street. Once I'd settled in a pew, a very nervous young man seated himself beside me. According to my contact, the CIA is deeply concerned about the subversive influence of popular music on young people, that's why 'they murdered Brian Jones, John Lennon and Jim Morrison'.

What's been worrying the spooks lately is the sway black radicalism has gained over the minds of white teenagers, to counter this 'they've been pushing Nation of Islam style separatism among rappers'. Likewise, the white Grunge movement spearheaded by Nirvana was backed by the CIA because 'they wanted to divide youngsters on racial lines, if black and white kids linked up, they'd pose a serious threat to the system. The whole point of Grunge is to instill in teenagers a sense of hopelessness, to fill them with self-hate and prevent them from changing the world.'

Apparently, the CIA got hold of Cobain when he was still unknown, then using drugs, hypnosis and medical torture, they broke his will and rebuilt his personality. 'Most of the time he'd act relatively normal,' I was told, 'but all it took was a few key words spoken over the phone and Cobain would carry out the deeds he'd been programmed to enact.' My contact was convinced that the singer had been brainwashed into committing suicide at the peak of his success because the CIA figured this would reduce his potentially rebellious fans to complete despair.

However, the conspiracy theorist admitted several of his fellow researchers thought Cobain had taken his own life as the only means of breaking free from the influence of his controllers. If this is the case, then the rock star is a hero rather than simply a victim, and his death provides grounds for a fresh outbreak of teenager rebellion.

Amazing isn't it to think that the CIA spotted the untapped potential of Kurt Cobain as a musician, before the rest of the world-therefore the CIA are better than the A&R men of the music industry. And there I was sending of my music to Sony and Warner when I should be sending it to the CIA...Thanks

[cheeb]

you mean jacobs ladder ?

reminds me at that movie about army experiments, soldiers going berserk killing each other instead of the enemy, hallucinations, nightmares..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/70/Jacobsladderposter.jpg/406px-Jacobsladderposter.jpg

The scene In Jacobs Ladder here:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SXXbIOc9h4g&feature=related

Is almost Identical To The Abduction Of Travis Walton..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8FEHP7JGego

Being Dragged Down A Filthy Corridor,
Being Restrained On An Operating Table,
Crowding Around The Operating Table,
Filthy Surgical Equiptment,
A Drill Going Into The Head,

Even The Aliens/Demons Are The Same

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The Demon Doctor From Jacobs Ladder..

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Alien From Fire In The Sky...

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The Same (Derivative) From Carnival Of Souls..
Notice The Decapitated One..!!!!

"The Ladder"

Jacob is told that the horrific events he experienced on his final day in Vietnam were the product of an experimental drug called "The Ladder", which was used on troops without their knowledge. This is an ambiguous element in the film, particularly since Jacob is given the information by a character in his own imagination. He is told that the drug was named for its ability to cause "a fast trip straight down the ladder, right to the primal fear, right to the base anger," although the name "The Ladder" also has a metaphorical and religious significance beyond this, which is relevant to Jacob's predicament: it is notable that he ends his hallucination on a staircase.

At the end of the film, a message is displayed mentioning the testing of a drug named BZ, NATO code for a deliriant and hallucinogen known as 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate that was rumored to have been administered to U.S. troops by the government in a secret attempt to increase their fighting power.

Central effects of BZ

* Disturbances in level of consciousness
* Misperceptions and difficulty in interpretation (delusions, hallucinations)
* Poor judgment and insight (denial of illness)
* Short attention span, distractibility, impaired memory (particularly recent)
* Slurred speech, perseveration
* Disorientation
* Ataxia
* Variability (quiet/restless)

Central nervous system mediated perceptual disturbances in BZ poisoning include both illusions (misidentification of real objects) and hallucinations (the perception of objects or attributes that have no objective reality). Hallucinations resulting from anticholinergics such as BZ tend to be realistic, distinct, easily identifiable (often commonly encountered objects or persons), panoramic, and difficult to distinguish from reality.

BZ produces effects not just in individuals, but also in groups. Sharing of illusions and hallucinations (folie à deux, folie en famille, and "mass hysteria") is exemplified by two BZ-intoxicated individuals who would take turns smoking an imaginary cigarette clearly visible to both of them but to no one else.

More Info On BZ Here...:
http://www.uoregon.edu/~munno/OregonCourses/REL353W05/BZStory.htm

[hunkahunka]

Is something more behind all this popular proliferation of 'born to' sentiments, such as 'Born to Kill'
Could it be that these people were
literally created/born for various purposes?

http://static.flickr.com/9/15304659_dec9999702.jpg
'Special Forces' soldier in Vietnam with Born to Kill written on helmet. (this was a common motto for Vietnam soldiers)

http://members.cox.net/mike_keaney/index-3.jpg

this image from the 1947 film 'Born to Kill' has a decidedly 'William Burroughs' feel to it.

interesting band called 'the offspring'
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/309963.jpg
this album called 'They were born to kill'.(strapped down to a gurney?) Or is the phrase 'born to' really in reference to the fruit that the mk program is bearing?

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more angel imagery
http://i20.ebayimg.com/02/c/01/69/5b/74_8.JPG
Album called 'Splinter', ( mk ultra project shattered mind )
http://www.staxdvd.com/images/films/88.jpg
this documentary on serial killers

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http://deco-00.slide.com/r/1/139/dl/Cr9l_fQOUpsNoCI-jBGb6zFIzHXEn8_Y/watermark

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w62/crustunite/NaturalBornKillers.jpg

[hunkahunka]

Amazing isn't it to think that the CIA spotted the untapped potential of Kurt Cobain as a musician, before the rest of the world-therefore the CIA are better than the A&R men of the music industry. And there I was sending of my music to Sony and Warner when I should be sending it to the CIA...Thanks

you are missing the point of this whole thread, so instead of making sarcastic comments after reading only the opening post, at least read the whole thing. You will see that the Illuminati/CIA/MI6 etc. have people planted in all walks of life doing various underworld tasks for them. These powerful people have the power to advance people that find favor with them, especially those 'assets' under their control, and will often bestow a 'helping hand' in furthering the careers of people they feel are prepared to further their agenda. It is possible that Cobain was being groomed by them as a drug courier or male prostitute long before fortune smiled on Cobain and he was given lyrics that became hits.

[hunkahunka]

fantastic one hour interview of Fritz Springmeir:


this interviewer really gets down to business and
straight to the point re: human sacrifice, etc. must see:

video:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1058372349704594335&ei=FTaiSNqQDaGY-QHB1egv&q=fritz+springmeir&hl=en

[emerald]

Check out TATIA STARR's outfit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1044118/A-new-Starr-born-Ringos-granddaughter-takes-stage-rock-band.html

[seaweed]

fantastic one hour interview of Fritz Springmeir:


this interviewer really gets down to business and
straight to the point re: human sacrifice, etc. must see:

video:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1058372349704594335&ei=FTaiSNqQDaGY-QHB1egv&q=fritz+springmeir&hl=en

Just watched it. Excellent video. Thanks for posting this.

Best,

Seaweed

[miss_splitfoot]

you are missing the point of this whole thread, so instead of making sarcastic comments after reading only the opening post, at least read the whole thing. You will see that the Illuminati/CIA/MI6 etc. have people planted in all walks of life doing various underworld tasks for them. These powerful people have the power to advance people that find favor with them, especially those 'assets' under their control, and will often bestow a 'helping hand' in furthering the careers of people they feel are prepared to further their agenda. It is possible that Cobain was being groomed by them as a drug courier or male prostitute long before fortune smiled on Cobain and he was given lyrics that became hits.

that's right, iwasprobed. listen to Hunkahunka because he knows he is right. the CIA are probably programming him with intense powers of perception (either that or to spread ridiculous disinformation). probably gay programmed too. maybe a male prostitute. he spends most of his day working this all out for us, so don't even question what he says. it's wrong to form your own opinions. yeah, quit the sarcasm.

[brown velvet]

that's right, iwasprobed. listen to Hunkahunka because he knows he is right. the CIA are probably programming him with intense powers of perception (either that or to spread ridiculous disinformation). probably gay programmed too. maybe a male prostitute. he spends most of his day working this all out for us, so don't even question what he says. it's wrong to form your own opinions. yeah, quit the sarcasm.

Hey there Miss splitfoot :)

maybe you and iwasprobed could open your own 'Sarcastic Link' preferably on another forum? Or possibly, just stop reading our posts? Or better yet.... learn the 'If I haven't got anything nice to say, say nothing?


Shame, thought you may have at least been eloquent enough to give considered and valued coments instead of just being unpleasant?

brown.

[miss_splitfoot]

"considered comments" mean nothing on this thread if you don't subscribe to Hunka's theory. it's a shame that this thread has been hijacked by someone so self opinionated, because apart from all the high & mighty Hunka stuff it's been really interesting. that's why i drop into this thread, to find the gems among the crap.

he should remember that what he's saying is THEORY, not FACT. i've seen how he can't take constructive criticism from other people at all. if pages are being copied & pasted from other websites, they're so distorted to fit in with his view that it really does become ridiculous.

that post where Alice Cooper's on an album sleeve apparently pleading with the CIA to save his life because he's 27? how can people read that without laughing? it's people like Hunka who make me ashamed to even admit to being a conspiracy theorist. talk about closed minds.

[broken silence]

Mr Springsteen again;

CODE OF SILENCE

There's a code of silence that we don't dare speak
There's a wall between us and a river so deep
We keep pretending that there's nothing wrong
But there's a code of silence and it can't go on

Is the truth so elusive, so elusive you see
That it ain't enough baby, to bridge the distance between you and me
There's a list of grievance a 100 miles long
There's a code of silence and it can't go on

Well you walk with your eyes open
But your lips they remain sealed
While the vows we made are broken
Beneath the truth you need to reveal
Well I came to know now darlin'
Need to know what's going on
But come on, come on, come on, come on
Come on, come on, come on

Bruce knows what is going on but needs someone else to reveal the truth for him, as operates by the code of silence and is ;

TRAPPED

Well it seems like I'm caught up in your trap again
And it seems like I'll be wearin' the same ol' chains
Good will conquer evil and the truth will set you free
And I know someday I'll find the key
Then I know somewhere I will find the key
Well it seems like I've been playin' the game way too long
And it seems the game I played has made you strong
Well when the game is over, I won't walk out the loser
And I know that I'll walk out of here again
And I know someday I'll walk out of here again

But now I'm trapped! Ooh yeah!
Trapped! Ooh yeah yeah!
Trapped! Ooh yeah!
Trapped! Ooh yeahhh!

Now it seems like I've been sleepin' in your bed too long
And it seems like you've been meanin' to do me harm
But I'll teach my eyes to see beyond these walls in front of me
And someday I'll walk out of here again
Yeah I know someday I'll walk out of here again

But now I'm trapped! Ooh yeah!
Trapped! Ooh yeah yeah!
Trapped! Ooh yeah!
Trapped! Ooh yeahhh!

Now it seems like I've been playin' your game way too long
And it seems the game I played has made you strong

I know thats a cover, but he plays it regularly. A cry for help. He knows he is living in the ;

LAND OF HOPE AND DREAMS

Grab your ticket and your suitcase
Thunder's rollin' down this track
You don't know where you're goin'
But you know you won't be back
Darlin' if you're weary
Lay your head upon my chest
We'll take what we can carry
And we'll leave the rest


Big Wheels rolling through fields
Where sunlight streams
Meet me in a land of hope and dreams

I will provide for you
And I'll stand by your side
You'll need a good companion for
This part of the ride
Leave behind your sorrows
Let this day be the last
Tomorrow there'll be sunshine
And all this darkness past

Big wheels roll through fields
Where sunlight streams
Meet me in a land of hope and dreams

This Train...
Carries saints and sinners
This Train...
Carries losers and winners
This Train...
Carries whores and gamblers
This Train...
Carries lost souls
This Train...
Dreams will not be thwarted
This Train...
Faith will be rewarded
This Train...
Hear the steel wheels singin'
This Train...
Bells of freedom ringin'

This Train...
Carries broken-hearted
This Train...
Thieves and sweet souls departed
This Train...
Carries fools and kings
This Train...
All aboard

This Train...
Dreams will not be thwarted
This Train...
Faith will be rewarded
This Train...
Hear the steel wheels singin'
This Train...
Bells of freedom ringin'

Leave everything behind (abandonment) and join the freedom train in the land of dreams.

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[brown velvet]

Poppet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppet)

The word poppet is an older spelling of puppet, from the Middle English popet, meaning a small child or doll. In British Dialect it continues to hold this meaning. Poppet is also a chiefly English term of endearment. Poppet now generally refers to its use in folk-magic.
While the origins of 'poppet' come from old England, namely from Marionette performances in Cheshire, England, in today's term, 'Poppet' is expressed throughout the world as a term of endearment between loved ones. It has travelled beyond the bounds of the United Kingdom, and has found use in areas of the world such as Australia, India, and many other British commonwealth nations. Columbus, Ohio is among many places where one may find the term 'poppet' to be very commonly used, due to its large South Asian community.

Folk magic
In folk-magic and witchcraft, a poppet is a doll made to represent a person, for casting spells on that person. These dolls may be fashioned from such materials as a carved root grain or corn shafts, a fruit, paper, wax, a potato, clay, branches, or cloth stuffed with herbs. The intention is that whatever actions are performed upon the effigy will be transferred to the subject based in sympathetic magic. It was from these dolls that the myth of Voodoo dolls arose.

Voodoo doll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_doll#Myths_and_misconceptions)
Further adding to the dark reputation of Voodoo was the 1973 film adaptation of the thriller Live and Let Die, part of Ian Fleming's widely successful James Bond series, which had been continually in print in both the English original and translations to numerous languages. Fleming's depiction of the schemings of a fiendish Soviet agent (see Mr. Big, Baron Samedi) using Voodoo to intimidate and control a vast network of submissive black followers got an incomparably greater audience than any careful scholarly work on the subject of Voodoo

Mandragora (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandragora_%28demon%29) (demon)
In myth, mandragoras are familiar demons who appear in the figures of little men without beards.

Mandragoras are thought to be little dolls or figures given to sorcerers by the Devil for the purpose of being consulted by them in time of need; and it would seem as if this conception had sprung directly from that of the fetish, which is nothing else than a dwelling-place made by a shaman or medicine-man for the reception of any wandering spirit who chooses to take up his abode therein.

Mandrake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandrake_(plant)) (plant)
Mandrake is the common name for members of the plant genus Mandragora belonging to the nightshades family (Solanaceae). Because mandrake contains deliriant hallucinogenic tropane alkaloids such as hyoscyamine and the roots sometimes contain bifurcations causing them to resemble human figures, their roots have long been used in magic rituals, today also in neopagan religions such as Wicca and Germanic revivalism religions such as Odinism. (It is alleged that magicians would form this root into a crude resemblance to the human figure, by pinching a constriction a little below the top, so as to make a kind of head and neck, and twisting off the upper branches except two, which they leave as arms, and the lower, except two, which they leave as legs.)

In the film Pan's Labyrinth, the little girl Ofelia nurses a mandrake type homunculus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus) with two drops of her blood each day, in order to help her pregnant mother.
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Homunculus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus) of alchemy
In Carl Jung's studies of Alchemy, he believed the first record of a homunculus in alchemical literature appeared in the Visions of Zosimos, written in the third century AD, although the actual word "homunculus" was never used. In the visions, Zosimos mentions encountering a man who impales him with a sword, and then undergoes "unendurable torment," his eyes become blood, he spews forth his flesh, and changes into "the opposite of himself, into a mutilated anthroparion, and he tore his flesh with his own teeth, and sank into himself," which is a rather grotesque personification of the ouroboros, the dragon that bites its own tail, which represents the dyophysite nature in alchemy: the balance of two principles. Zosimos later encounters several other homunculi, named as the Brazen Man, the Leaden Man, and so forth. Commonly, the homunculi "submit themselves to unendurable torment" and undergo alchemical transformation. Zosimos made no mention of actually creating an artificial human, but rather used the concept of personifying inanimate metals to further explore alchemy.

There are also variants cited by other alchemists. One such variant involved the use of the mandrake. Popular belief held that this plant grew where semen ejaculated by hanged men (during the last convulsive spasms before death) fell to the ground, and its roots vaguely resemble a human form to varying degrees. The root was to be picked before dawn on a Friday morning by a black dog, then washed and "fed" with milk and honey and, in some prescriptions, blood, whereupon it would fully develop into a miniature human which would guard and protect its owner. Yet a third method, cited by Dr. David Christianus at the University of Giessen during the 18th century, was to take an egg laid by a black hen, poke a tiny hole through the shell, replace a bean-sized portion of the white with human semen, seal the opening with virgin parchment, and bury the egg in dung on the first day of the March lunar cycle. A miniature humanoid would emerge from the egg after thirty days, which would help and protect its creator in return for a steady diet of lavender seeds and earthworms.
http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs25/300W/f/2008/112/a/7/The_Hanged_Man_by_quick2004.jpg

Homunculus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus) of spermists
The term homunculus was later used in the discussion of conception and birth. In 1694, Nicolas Hartsoeker discovered "animalcules" in the semen of humans and other animals. This was the beginning of spermists' theory, who held the belief that the sperm was in fact a "little man" (homunculus) that was placed inside a woman for growth into a child. This seemed to them to neatly explain many of the mysteries of conception. It was later pointed out that if the sperm was a homunculus, identical in all but size to an adult, then the homunculus may have sperm of its own. This led to a reductio ad absurdum, with a chain of homunculi "all the way down". This was not necessarily considered by spermists a fatal objection however, as it neatly explained how it was that "in Adam" all had sinned: the whole of humanity was already contained in his loins. The spermists' theory also failed to explain why children tend to resemble their mothers as well as their fathers, though some spermists believed that the growing homunculus assimilated maternal characteristics from the womb environment in which they grew.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Preformation.GIF

The homunculus is also commonly used to describe the distorted human figure drawn to reflect the relative space our body parts occupy on the somatosensory cortex (sensory homunculus) and the motor cortex (motor homunculus). The lips, hands, feet and sex organs have more sensory neurons than other parts of the body, so the homunculus has correspondingly distortedly large lips, hands, feet, and genitals. Well known in the field of neurology, this is also commonly called 'the little man inside the brain.

http://www.brainconnection.com/med/medart/l/homunculus.jpg

Motor (http://www.brainconnection.com/topics/?main=gal/homunculus) homunculus
A figurative representation of the body map encoded in primary motor cortex. Body parts with complex repertories of fine movement, like the hand, require more cortical space in M1, while body parts with relatively simpler movements, like the hip, require less cortical space.

Homunculus arguments are common in the theory of vision. Imagine a person watching a movie. He sees the images as something separate from himself, projected on the screen. How is this done? A simple theory might propose that the light from the screen forms an image on the retinae in the eyes and something in the brain looks at these as if they are the screen. The Homunculus Argument shows this is not a full explanation because all that has been done is to place an entire person, or homunculus, behind the eye who gazes at the retinae. A more sophisticated argument might propose that the images on the retinae are transferred to the visual cortex where it is scanned. Again this cannot be a full explanation because all that has been done is to place a little person in the brain behind the cortex. In the theory of vision the Homunculus Argument invalidates theories that do not explain 'projection', the experience that the viewing point is separate from the things that are seen. (Adapted from Gregory (1987), (1990)).



http://kybele.psych.cornell.edu/~edelman/Psych-231/homunculus-MiB.jpg


How a homunculus (http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Homonculus) theory of mind argument might be visualised
Very few people would propose that there actually is a little man in the brain looking at brain activity. However, this proposal has been used as a 'straw man' in theories of mind. Gilbert Ryle (1949) proposed that the human mind is known by its intelligent acts. (see Ryle's Regress). He argued that if there is an inner being inside the brain that could steer its own thoughts then this would lead to an absurd repetitive cycle or "regress" before a thought could occur:

Homunculus
http://www.booksplendour.com.au/gallery/abstract/Image6_homunculus.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Faust_image_19thcentury.jpg/465px-Faust_image_19thcentury.jpg

In English novelist W. Somerset Maugham's 1908 work The Magician, Oliver Haddo, a character based on British occultist Aleister Crowley, is obsessed with the creation of homunculi.

In Hugh Paxton's 2006 novel Homunculus (MacMillan New Writing ISBN-13: 978-0230007369), alchemy is harnessed for modern military purposes. Homunculi created from human body parts and powered by moonshine are used as bioweapons in war-torn Sierra Leone.

book cover
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fza%2BgM82L._SS500_.jpg


http://universe-review.ca/I10-13-homunculus.jpg
These cortical (http://universe-review.ca/R10-16-ANS.htm) maps (Figure 22b) are not drawn to scale; instead they are variously distorted to reflect the amount the neural processing power devoted to different regions. This accounts for the grotesque appearance of the human body in the homun-culus, which is a translation of the body's sensory map into the human form.

Wearing His Homunculus (http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2007/09/05/wearing-his-homunculus-on-his-sleeve/) on His Sleeve
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/files/prevsite/PitnickSleeve500.jpg
Medical professionals and their tattoo's
Science Tattoo Emporium (http://sciencetattoo.com/)

Owning and activating golems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem)
Having a golem servant was seen as the ultimate symbol of wisdom and holiness, and there are many tales of golems connected to prominent rabbis throughout the Middle Ages.

Other attributes of the golem were gradually added over time. In many tales the Golem is inscribed with magic or religious words that keep it animated. Writing one of the names of God on its forehead, a slip of paper in its mouth, or enscribed on its body, or writing the word Emet (אמת,"truth" in the Hebrew language) on its forehead are examples of such words. By erasing the first letter aleph in Emet to form Met (מת, "dead" in Hebrew) the golem could be deactivated. Another way is by writing a specific incantation in the owner's blood on calfskin parchment, and placing it in the mouth. Removing the parchment will deactivate the golem. It is likely that this is the same incantation that the Rabbi recites in the classic narrative. Golems also need to rest on the Sabbath lest they go berserk.

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The hubris theme
In many depictions golems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem) are inherently perfectly obedient. However, in its earliest known modern form the story has Rabbi Eliyahu of Chełm creating a golem that became enormous and uncooperative. In one version of this the rabbi had to resort to trickery to deactivate it, whereupon it crumbled upon its creator and crushed him. There is a similar hubris theme in Frankenstein, The Sorcerer's Apprentice and some other golem-derived stories in popular culture. The theme also manifests itself in R.U.R. (Rossum's Universal Robots), Karel Čapek's 1921 play which coined the term robot; the novel was written in Prague and while Capek denied that he modeled the robot after the golem, there are many similarities in the plot.

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These tales saw a dramatic change, and some would argue a Christianization,[citation needed] of the golem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem). The golem became a creation of overambitious and overreaching mystics, who would inevitably be punished for their blasphemy, as in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein and the alchemical homunculus. The homunculus appears occasionally in the folklore of Eastern Europe as a construct made from natural materials such as dirt, roots, insects, feces, and other substances. In these stories the creature is revived through incantation and acts as a vehicle for the astrally projected mind of a sorcerer.

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The Golem: It! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golem:_It%21)
It! (aka Anger of the Golem, Curse of the Golem) is a 1966 horror film made by Seven Arts Productions and Gold Star Productions, Ltd. that features the Golem of Prague as its main subject. The film was made in the style of the Hammer Studios films both in sound and cinematography. It! stars Roddy McDowall as the mad assistant museum curator Arthur Pimm, who evokes (brings to life) the golem by finding a hidden scroll in a hollowed out compartment of the golem's right foot and placing it under its tongue. Alan Sellers plays the golem, Jill Haworth plays Ellen Grove, Oliver Johnston plays Mr. Trimingham, Paul Maxwell plays Jim Parkins, and Noel Trevarthen plays Inspector White. Herbert J. Leder is a producer, the screenwriter, and director of this film. Leder also produced, wrote, and directed "Nine Miles to the Moon" (1963), "The Frozen Dead" (1966), and "The Candy Man" (1969). He was the screenwriter for "Fiend without a Face" (1958), and "Pretty Boy Floyd" (1960).

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Puppet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppet_Master_%28film%29) Master (film)
The film starts in 1939 Bodega Bay, California with an old puppeteer named Andre Toulon putting the finishing touches on a living puppet called Jester. A living Japanese-looking puppet stares out of the window at Blade, another living puppet, as Blade scouts the grounds of the Bodega Bay Inn that Andre is staying at. Two Nazis get out of a car and head for Toulon's room but Blade beats them there and Andre puts Blade, Jester, and the Japanese puppet into a chest, before hiding the chest in a wall panel. As the Nazis break down the door, Toulon shoots himself in the mouth with a pistol. The Oriental puppet is not seen for the rest of the movie.

The film now cuts to 1989, with a psychic named Alex. Alex has a dream that there are leeches on his stomach. Seconds later, he dreams of a man that he recognizes putting a gun to a woman's head. The film cuts to Dana, another psychic, who has visions of being slashed across the throat with a knife. Carissa and Frank, two other psychics who are apparently lovers, are reading the mind of another woman when they get a call from Alex. Frank tells Alex that they also got a call from Dana, and the four psychics assess that the visions they've been having were sent from a former colleague, Neil Gallagher.

leech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leech_Woman) woman
Leech Woman's power is her ability to throw up her leeches (hence her name). In addition to her leeches she has a small knife.

http://www.comic-lair.com/leechwomanfig.jpg

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In mysticism a tulpa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa) is the concept of a being or object which is created through sheer willpower alone. It is a materialized thought that has taken physical form and is usually regarded as synonymous to a thoughtform.[4]

A tulpa is, in Tibetan mysticism, a being or object which is created through willpower, visualisation, attention and focus, concerted intentionality and ritual. In other words, it is a materialized thought that has taken physical form

In It (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(1990_film)) by Stephen King, the eponymous entity's various manifestations are given form and power by the belief of the townspeople.

In the animated television show, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foster%27s_Home_for_Imaginary_Friends), imaginary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_Friends) friends are depicted as corporeal, living thoughtforms, brought to life upon being imagined by a child.

Candyman (film)

"Everybody needs candy of one kind or another," George Sanders says in The Candy Man (http://www.answers.com/topic/the-candy-man-film). Sanders, playing a character named Sidney Carter, says this soon after giving some peppermint sticks to a pair of small children. But are they just peppermint sticks? As a down-and-out drug dealer, Carter is capable of just about anything. Desperate to make some real money, he comes up with an idea that, if it works, will let him retire: kidnap the young daughter of a visiting movie star (played by Leslie Parrish).

Poppets (http://www.poppets.com/)

Look out for 12 different nostalgic icons on the front of our packs and be sure to let us know which one is your favourite. Each pack also features a little message to help you Remember When? ... and enjoy a trip down memory lane.
Remember when? Mint?
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red bow tie, pig
hook in head, duck
union jack, mini
Rubiks cube, colourful
garden gnome, fish, rod / dwarf
'old style' red telephone
collar wearing nodding dog
bucket and spade
lava lamp
green and white camper van
slinky / spiral

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs15/300W/i/2006/354/2/f/Poppets_by_CostumeDrama.jpg




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It's sort of like voodoo, in that dolls are used to represent those involved in the spell. Two dolls are made, one with the characteristics of the caster, and the other of their desired partner. The dolls (or "poppets") are then bound together with a red ribbon with the idea that by doing so draw tie the two lovers together. from the artist (http://amieva.deviantart.com/art/Love-Poppets-45286910)...

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http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs8/300W/i/2005/353/1/2/The_Effects_of_Voodoo_by_PhantomsRose.jpg

- note 'X's on wrist, elbow, shoulder, waist and neck, no top of head / brain. No right hand, total disconnect between elbow and shoulder, arm and body. No / black eyes. Massive right arm trauma.
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colourful
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strings
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs11/300W/i/2006/251/6/8/I__ll_Be_Your_Poppet_by_TheHauntress.jpg

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs27/f/2008/069/a/b/Voodoo_Love_by_Spiderling_Art.jpg

chapter 7 science of structuring (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/if_chapter7.htm)

The internal world is full of goblins, dwarfs, worms, a hat, door knockers, Fury 1,2,3,4,5 and many other things. Ravens are in the movie. In real life, the programmers take alter fragments, which are splits which are not developed into full blown personalities and they program them to have a single task, for instance to think they are a raven and to bite the body when ever they take the body. Whole flocks of demons which take the form of ravens may wait inside the mind waiting for their release to bite the body. When triggered by the internal programmers when an alter crosses the boundaries set down by the programming, a flock of ravens may come forward and "take the body" (as they say in MPD) of the slave and the Monarch slave will bite his or her flesh and viciously tear it with its teeth. By watching the movie Labyrinth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_%28film%29), and using this as a guide, the viewer will begin to understand the horror and control that the internal world holds over the alters of a Monarch slave. Few Monarch slaves ever tell other people what is going on in their minds, now you have been privileged to find out.



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brown.

[cheeb]

Excellent Post Brown,
I Know It Can Sometimes Take Hours To Put A Post Like That Together..

Myself I Have Been Working On An MM,
In Hollywood Post For Days,

It Pisses Me Off When The Debunkers Come On Here,
With No Info Just Ill Informed Opinions.....

:)

[brown velvet]

Excellent Post Brown,
I Know It Can Sometimes Take Hours To Put A Post Like That Together..

Myself I Have Been Working On An MM,
In Hollywood Post For Days,

It Pisses Me Off When The Debunkers Come On Here,
With No Info Just Ill Informed Opinions.....

:)

Hey cheeb :D

thanks for your support, and only those that know how much research goes in to our posts, would even think of commenting....:cool: yeah, several days and lots of thinking ;)

I am just sad that those who mock or joke can't prove this stuff incorrect, for gladly I would take it and research.... My research shows what I post.
They can take it or leave it, at least consider it before writing it off.

brown.

[soulja]

great posts brown :)

[brown velvet]

great posts brown :)

thank you :D

It's appreciated,


brown.

[hunkahunka]

Marilyn Manson is putting out a new film on Alice in Wonderland author Lewis Carroll:

http://www.klownsasesinos.com/Killermovies/Imagenes/phantasmagoria.jpg

Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll is an upcoming fantasy horror film by Marilyn Manson with Geoffrey Cox and Anthony de Silva. It is directed by Marilyn Manson as part of his Celebritarian Corporation art movement, and is his directorial debut as a feature filmmaker. It is being produced by Blue Light for Wild Bunch and has estimated budget of $4,200,000. In the leading roles are Marilyn Manson as Lewis Carroll, English model Lily Cole as Alice, Golden Globe-nominated actress Evan Rachel Wood as Alice's alter ego and an Academy Award-winning British actress Tilda Swinton as Lewis Carroll's dream wife.

http://fashionista.com/images/LilyManson.jpg
Manson with Lily Cole (note the butterfly bracelet)

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5069/46825lilycolevoguejpjanbe9.jpg
more butterflies, emeralds

http://www.catwalkqueen.tv/EMALilyCole.jpg
Lily Cole in mask

http://www.stefano-picco.de/gfx/logo_ema_munich_07.jpg
more rainbow imagery

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Lily Cole, dissociated hands, one eye

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silence

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[mrguitarbear]

http://melbourne.diarystar.com.au/images/marilyn-manson-eat-me-drink-me.jpg

Marilyn Manson - ' Eat Me , Drink Me '

Echoes of cannibalism as well as the obvious Alice in Wonderland references ?

[hunkahunka]

this is the actual CD of Marilyn Manson's latest recording Eat Me, Drink Me:

http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=15023_Marilyn_Manson-Eat_Me9_Drink_Me-CD_122_578lo.jpg

look familiar?

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http://bp3.blogger.com/_k7DtgSeuq7U/RunwKOb8WtI/AAAAAAAAAVM/Ab7UC-MttPs/s200/glfreak.jpg

[mrguitarbear]

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' One Hot Minute ' album , note the fairy , the doll playing the piano , the red starfish and the red bow around the doll's waist ( = bloodline ).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/23/Rhcp9.jpg

' Red Hot Chili Peppers ' - girl with blindfold ( eyes wide shut ? )

http://3.music.bigpond-images.com/images/AlbumCoverArt/387/XXL/Mothers-Milk-Explicit.jpg

' Mother's Milk ' - rose over the nipple ( = bloodline )

http://991.com/newGallery/Red-Hot-Chili-Peppers-The-Plasma-Shaft-248756.jpg

' The Plasma Shaft ' - Ace of Hearts and butterfly wings ( the eyes of the creature )

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j198/flytrashtrampoline7/Red_Hot_Chili_Peppers_Blood_Sugar_S.jpg

' Blood Sugar Sex Magick ' - roses indicate bloodline , reptilian parseltongues.

http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/rhcp_bssm_back.jpg

Rear of ' BSSM ' - wrist tattoo , eight pointed star = a symbol of chaos , also suggests bondage/slavery to the Illuminati.

Anthony Kiedis we already know about , being babysat by Cher and hanging out at the Rainbow.

[hunkahunka]

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_-ye9uyUdIzY/SALAzSEUqGI/AAAAAAAACGc/mGu8lMwFhPA/P1030974.JPG

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a308/jq_tan/Farnee/206.jpg

http://tinypic.com/909bg1.jpg

http://yaflamingalah.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/dsc00030.jpg
Four delicious chances to have a gay time

http://www.dazbert.co.uk/sites/rudefood/food/gaytime.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/181/414497809_fc9a0c60cf.jpg?v=0

[hunkahunka]

http://melbourne.diarystar.com.au/images/marilyn-manson-eat-me-drink-me.jpg

Marilyn Manson - ' Eat Me , Drink Me '

Echoes of cannibalism as well as the obvious Alice in Wonderland references ?

for those who don't understand MGB's reference,
in Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland, Alice finds
foods and drinks labeled 'eat me' and 'drink me'.

[hunkahunka]

http://picrip4.com/images/biker/biker0007.gif

http://www.aussiesurf.com.au/WebRoot/ecornerstoreplus/Shops/sparechangeclothes/46CF/F161/DE54/3DB9/C987/C0A8/D207/9F34/biker_born_flag.jpg

http://bp3.blogger.com/_aVVqAyIjdws/R7YNjbuuEyI/AAAAAAAAAQY/rmMtgaXVMWA/s400/Iron+Butterfly+front.jpg

http://www.dking-gallery.com/pix/IronB.jpg

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http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m35/salazarang/NATURAL-BORN-BIKER-400.jpg

http://www.discountteessweats.com/images/bikers/6170.jpg

http://www.crushi.com/Motorcycle/thumbnails/DCP_1433_JPG.jpg

http://filmforno.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/born_losers_1967.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://www.psnnewsletter.com/images/clients/41/LINDSEY%20WATCHES_575.JPG
note Harley Davidson butterfly t-shirt

http://www.poconomountainleather.com/sc_images/products/1207_large_image.jpg

http://www.gsmt.org/images/store/18516JR_BUTTERFLY_PATCH.jpg

http://images.myleather.com/imagesproc/49668_H_SH315_MW355.jpg
women's motorcycle helmet

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bikernewsonline.com/uploaded_images/hardly-delicate-763168.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bikernewsonline.com/labels/T-Shirts.htm&h=400&w=383&sz=38&hl=en&start=44&um=1&tbnid=A7gqGEqbaJQKrM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=119&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbutterfly%2Bmotorcycle%2Bhelmet%26sta rt%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dof f%26sa%3DN

http://www.motolandnet.com/images/images/popups/SHARK/S800BUTTERFLY_VWG.jpg

http://www.bikernewsonline.com/uploaded_images/hardly-delicate-763168.jpg
Motorcyle butterfly

http://www.foxcreekleather.com/images/large/55_1_front_1_345x500.jpg

[soulja]

some flyers i've come across,

http://www.disndatmedia.com/news/dnd/data/upimages/butterfly_effect.jpg

http://www.disndatmedia.com/news/dnd/data/upimages/2008_summer_mele.jpg

[soulja]

band called Butterfly Effect
http://www.timpalmer.com/album_pics/images/ButterflyEffect.jpg

artpiece with the same name
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs24/300W/f/2008/009/f/c/The_butterfly_effect_by_Maroin.jpg

http://www.bigtakeover.com/images/820.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa261/Curse603/Random/butterfly-1.jpg

http://www.flashbangstudios.com/images/monarch-the-butterfly-king.jpg
Monarch, the Butterfly King, is having a hard time of things lately. An evil wizard captured all his friends and is turning his kingdom in a frozen amber prison. Help Monarch find his friends and return his kingdom to its former glory! Travel through this Celtic wonderland as you game your way through over 150 different levels. Use magical powerups, concoct new potions, and match your way to happier

http://crazyprofile.com/myspace_graphics/imgs/Evil009.gif

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r70/giullie/11630427_fullr470x470.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/pic29358.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/YPD-1433.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://www.perishnot.com/files/u2/Sold_Their_Soul_Cover_0.jpg

For those who have not seen this yet, this is an excellent documentary film:
click on the arrow image below to play the video:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2494291415376995856&ei=dLKlSO-YOo6M_AGkktAy&q=they+sold+their+souls+for+rock+n%27+roll&hl=en

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2501641644828032698&ei=iLOlSMWWFYmM_AG4850k&q=they+sold+their+souls+for+rock+n%27+roll+part+2&hl=en

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4315257824039757348&ei=wLOlSLWgJJq2_AGzvbUj&q=they+sold+their+souls+for+rock+n%27+roll+part+3&hl=en

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7540620249341349&ei=ELSlSNDWL4mM_AG4850k&q=they+sold+their+souls+for+rock+n%27+roll+part+4o f4&hl=en

[soulja]

thx hunka, watching it now.

[amethyst]

What do you guys think of this?

Was watching the olympics (women's gymnastics) last night and saw this commercial:

It had a rather creepy vibe...the monarch butterflies were very prominent and also the orange background.

It also had the slogan: "Don't miss a single butterfly"

AT&T Butterflies Commercial with Nastia Liukin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm3LsGTgKQ8

Think she might be a monarch?

[eternal_spirit]

Don't know if this has been posted

http://posterwire.com/wp-content/images/silence_of_the_lambs.jpg

[eternal_spirit]

A cover for possible triggers
Secret Societies and the Hermetic Code: The Rosicrucian, Masonic, and Esoteric Transmission in the Arts (Paperback)



http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5134rCtcdOL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Product Description
A look into secrets hidden in music, painting, sculpture, and architecture

• Ranges from paintings of Byzantine icons to Salvador Dali, music from Mozart to Satanic Rock, and mystery sites from the Pyramids to Andrea Palladio’s Villa Cornaro

• Includes more than 100 color and black-and-white images that reveal the mysteries contained in these artistic works

In Secret Societies and the Hermetic Code, Ernesto Frers presents a virtual museum of artistic works that contain occult secrets. The scope of his research ranges from the paintings of Byzantine icons to Salvador Dali, from mystery sites such as the Pyramids to the architecture of Andrea Palladio’s Villa Cornaro. He also discusses the hermetic influence on music evidenced in the works of Mozart through to the modern era of rock and roll.

Frers explains that all cultures encode in their architecture, art, and music the instructions and diagram of their esoteric ritual and faith. He shows how during the Middle Ages and Renaissance, the Church’s severe censure of anything antithetical to its dogma forced artists to conceal mystical references within the religious images or scenes they depicted. By examining works that have not received such scrutiny before, including those of Titian, di Cosimo, Botticelli, and Rembrandt, Frers brings to light the symbols and cryptic messages hidden in these masterworks. He presents his evidence using more than 100 color and black-and-white images to reveal the mysteries contained in these works of art. He also extends his investigation to the occult leanings of modern-day musicians such as the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, and Led Zepplin.

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/artists/salvador-dali/ check out some of the pics

[hunkahunka]

http://www.erosblog.com/sex-blog-pictures/butterfly-women.jpg
title butterfly twins

http://www.himemiya.net/vault/gloves02.jpg
fingerless butterfly gloves

http://linadreams.co.uk/sextoys/images/N4723-Bitchy_Butterfly_Nipple_Rings.jpg
butterfly nipple rings

http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/007/a/8/Butterfly_Legs_by_pinkeye.jpg
see her emerging from blood-spattered abuse as butterfly (also, where is her left arm?)
http://www.allaboutrainbows.com/MaleBondage.JPG
from a site called 'allaboutrainbows.com'

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/Squid42/Bondage.jpg

this one titled 'butterfly flight' (mods delete if you must):
http://www.lightspear.ru/ex/PICT93131.jpg


http://www.bmezine.com/tattoo/A51121/high/bmepb168574.jpg
note the spiral earrings

http://lingerie4all.org.uk/images/60033%20Web.jpg
butterfly thong

[hunkahunka]

What do you guys think of this?

Was watching the olympics (women's gymnastics) last night and saw this commercial:

It had a rather creepy vibe...the monarch butterflies were very prominent and also the orange background.

It also had the slogan: "Don't miss a single butterfly"

AT&T Butterflies Commercial with Nastia Liukin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm3LsGTgKQ8

Think she might be a monarch?

excellent post. raises some obvious questions about the 'training'

[hunkahunka]

http://gregvanderlaan.com/images/Camp-Winnarainbow-sign.jpg

http://http://www.campwinnarainbow.org/assets/index_assets/top02.jpg
on Highway 101 North of San Francisco

http://www.campwinnarainbow.org/

http://www.jordansplace.net/web/assets/tshirt_camp.jpg

[soulja]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/Anitababe/mk/logo.jpg
http://kathleenkeating.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=32
(green background as in emerald city)

she's another monarch with endtimes programming imo.

one of her books:
http://www.kathleenkeating.com/tfwmed.jpg

The Final Warning

A world-wide warning is approaching, and you won’t be able to escape it. Wherever you are… in a plane, at the office, doing laundry or making love, it will find you.Imagine your worst nightmare, then multiply it exponentially. Welcome to the end-times…

Dead ahead, devastating earthquakes, plagues, nuclear holocaust and finally, the Ball of Redemption.God has our number and He’s getting ready to dial.

Yet, The Final Warning can prepare you in the final minutes of the era. It is your survival guide, your beacon of hope in the darkness of chaos.

The Anti-Christ is looming on the horizon and our lives will never be the same. Which side of the battle will you be on?

In The Final Warning, prophecy, politics and people collide with incredible results. With the use of photographs, government documents, and specific prophecies, this book will demonstrate that we are indeed inseparable from prophetic warnings, political set-ups and ultimately, our final destination — the gateway to eternity.

interestingly she also wrote one about conspiracies

http://www.kathleenkeating.com/gohsm.jpg

The Gates of Hell puts an end to speculation about the validity of conspiracy theories and where they are taking us. Once and for all, rumors and innuendo are put to rest, permanently knocked out by extraordinary evidence that will leave the perpetrators scurrying for a place to hide…

Kathleen Keating’s sensational book removes the masks from the major players and exposes them for what they are. After reading The Gates of Hell, you will never look at the world and its leaders the same way. The bubble is about to burst.

Kathleen Keating, the International Best Selling Author of The Final Warning, delivers again with this shocking look at the underbelly of the world’s most powerful players. Prepare to have your views shaken.

she's part of the
http://kathleenkeating.com/news//images/randoms/ernnetwork.jpg
;)

[soulja]

Butterfly girls
http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/partypictures/2006/03_29_06/images/narsad/IMG_0120.jpg

and Butterfly themed rooms
http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/partypictures/2006/03_29_06/images/narsad/IMG_0014.jpghttp://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/partypictures/2006/03_29_06/images/narsad/IMG_0017.jpg

at some high society social event

The Washington National Opera marked its 50th anniversary and a full decade under Plácido Domingo’s leadershipwith a full weekend of dinners hosted by ambassadors, culminating in a gala. The Golden Gala, a concert featuring world-class artists and an elegant black-tie dinner, was chaired by former Chief of Protocol, Opera Vice President the Honorable Selwa “Lucky” Roosevelt.

The concert featured Plácido Domingo and a roster of the most acclaimed stars of the opera world, among them Anna Netrebko, Juan Diego Flórez, Elizabeth Futral, Samuel Ramey, Anja Kampe, Paul Groves, Alan Held, and Carlos Álvarez. Crowning the on-stage festivities was the world premiere of a musical theater “opera spuffo” by composer Marvin Hamlisch, starring Broadway diva Kristin Chenoweth and Plácido Domingo. Many cabinet and government officials including Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Mrs. Gonzales, Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez and Mrs. Gutierrez attended, as well as Supreme Court Justices, ambassadors and guests from Paris, London, New York and elsewhere.

Following the concert, guests dined atop The Kennedy Center, which was transformed into a glamorous setting of golden décor, complete with 2,000 yellow roses, given by the Ambassador of Colombia Andrés Pastrana and Mrs. Pastrana. Mrs. Roosevelt’s golden touch was everywhere, from the table linens to the gold-leaf chocolate coins perched on each dessert.

During cocktails and dinner, Sid and Mercedes Bass, Kip Forbes, Betty Scripps Harvey, Ariane Dandois, Ondine de Rothschild, Alexandra Kauka, Patricia Kluge, William Moses, Huda and Samia Farouki, Alberto and Anabelle Mariaca,Sirdar Aly Aziz, Frayda and George Lindemann, Guillermo and Bertita Martínez, James and Marie Nugent-Head Marlas, and Nemir and Nada Kirdar mixed with Washington luminaries Jim Kimsey, Jacqueline Badger Mars, Opera President Michael Sonnenreich and his wife Linda, Mandy and Mary Ourisman, Mary Mochary, Hilda Ochoa-Brillembourg, Marcia Mayo, Bob and Jamie Craft, and Albert and Shirley Small. The event raised over $4 million for the company.
http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/partypictures/2006/03_29_06/partypictures03_29_06.php

[hunkahunka]

THen there is this story of Earl Stefanson, (another Germanic name) the son of the Oakland Hells Angels president who was convicted of murdering a woman with 'puncture wounds all over the body' He liked to lock women in trailers and torture them. The autopsy description of the body sounds like some satanic sacrifice trauma was done to the body, and she was killed in a soundproofed, boarded up house, with a grow-op in the basement. I think she was not the only person to have ever been killed there:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20080408/ai_n25144342

Police found a torture chamber and blood of three women in his basement:

The Silence of Leslie Lamb

http://www.crimesceneblog.com/images/stefanson/lamb01.jpg

Posted by Stephen McCaskill on October 7th, 2006

At 12:30 PM on August 26, 2006 a bruised and beaten woman was dropped off at Highland Hospital. The man who brought her in claimed he found her in a car near his home.

The young woman, who was later identified as Leslie Lamb, was pronounced dead almost immediately. She had sustained a terrible beating from what appeared to be a wooden board.

The police began an investigation into the woman’s murder and upon speaking with her friends they determined she had been dating someone earlier in the year.

His name, Earl Stefanson, was not new to police. He had been arrested in 1995 for running a methamphetamine lab.

His wife at the time was also arrested, but told the officers who arrested her that they were a godsend.

“I remember saying, ‘You know what, you guys coming here and getting me out of the house is a godsend,’ ” she said. “I figured now I can go to prison and not be afraid of who I sleep with.”

Earl StefansonAnother ex-wife of Stefanson, Antonia Gutierrez, had obtained a restraining order again him in 1985 for harassment.

Police determined that Stefanson was also the same man who brought Leslie Lamb into the hospital in August.

Friends of Lamb told police that she was frequently beaten by Stefanson while they were dating.

Police then received a search warrant for Stefanson’s home. They were looking for evidence that Lamb was indeed beaten inside his home, since there was no evidence she had ever been in the car, as Stefanson claimed.

But what they found was far more distrurbing than just evidence of a beating.

Stefanson HomeWhen they went down the steps to the basement, they discovered a site that one homicide investigator said was “frightening even to us.”

The basement of the house had seemingly been converted into a torture chamber, akin to the one seen in the “Silence of the Lambs movie“, where a serial killer kidnaps and starves his female victims in the basement before killing them.

Police also found traces of blood from Leslie Lamb and two other victims in the basement, leading them to believe there were at least two other potential victims.

They are currently searching through unsolved cases and asking that anyone who was a victim of Earl Stefanson or knows anything about the case call the numbers below.

Police are adament about finding his other victims, stating they want to “locate every woman (Stefanson) has ever attacked in his life.”

Oakland police homicide investigators can be contacted at 510-238-3821, or on the department’s anonymous tip line at 510-777-3211.

Police: Suspect's Basement Like 'Silence Of The Lambs'
Police Say Man Suspected Of Torturing, Killing Woman May Have More Victims

On Aug. 26, Earl Stefanson, 41, drove a woman suffering from severe trauma over her entire body to Highland Hospital, Jones said. The woman, later identified as 36-year-old Leslie Lamb of San Leandro, was pronounced dead at the hospital.

Stefanson, who was employed as a roofer, claimed he found her in a car.

Police said they were able to determine that Lamb had not been inside the car where Stefanson claimed to have found her.

Police said they determined Stefanson had a history of abusing Lamb.

When authorities searched his home in the 3400 block of Coolidge Avenue, they found Lamb's blood and the blood of two other unidentified women.

Police said Stefanson tortured her in a room set up in his basement, which they described as frightening.

Jones wouldn't elaborate on what the basement looked like, except to say that "it was a 'Silence of the Lambs' type of setting down there." He also said that the room was "very dark and frightening" even for the experienced police officers working the case.

It appeared as if Stefanson had made an attempt to clean up the blood and conceal evidence of Lamb having been at the residence, Jones said. At this point, police have no idea who the other two victims are or even whether they are dead or alive.

Earl Stefanson
When police attempted to arrest Stefanson Tuesday night, he led them on a lengthy chase through Oakland and Hayward, Jones said.

Oakland police, with assistance from Hayward police, were eventually able to capture Stefanson and take him into custody.

Jones said that Stefanson was uncooperative during questioning following his arrest. However, from talking to acquaintances of Stefanson and Lamb, police were able to determine that the two had been dating since early this year and that Stefanson had a history of being extremely violent toward Lamb.

Jones attended Lamb's autopsy and said "the attack was very, very brutal."

According to Jones, Stefanson didn't have a "lengthy criminal history" and was known by most people as Earl. However, "We know that he has a history of abusing women," Jones said. "It's important that we locate every woman he has ever attacked in his life."

Police are looking at other unsolved murders in Oakland to see if any show signs of torture similar to what Lamb suffered. They are also asking anyone who has been a victim of Stefanson to contact the Oakland Police Department.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=794722889062725360&ei=zLymSJ2UNo32-gGB0MAo&q=leslie+lamb&vt=lf&hl=en
note how intimidated the police are in dealing with the CIA/Hells Angels crowd (especially in the Southern California area, very powerful people in the LA-Oakland- San Francisco region) Notice also, no photos of the basement were released, the investigation into the
other victims has gone nowhere, etc.


http://video.google.ca/videosearch?gbv=2&ndsp=18&hl=en&safe=off&q=silence%20of%20the%20lambs&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iv#q=it%20rubs%20the%20lotion%20on%20its%20ski n&hl=en&emb=0

the whole movie is here if you want to see it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaJflvuwweA&feature=related

[eternal_spirit]

St Helens Festival logo

http://umbrella.sthelens.gov.uk/FCKeditor/UserFiles/Image/St.Helens%20Festival/butterfly.jpg http://nl.visitliverpool.com/imageresizer/?image=%2Fdmsimgs%2FStHelens+Festival+Image.jpg&action=ProductMain

[hunkahunka]

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cSnaiUcQC7Mi/610x.jpg
15 months ago: US President George W. Bush (C) talks with members of the United States Navy's Blue Angels flying team prior to departing on Marine One from the South Lawn of the White House in Washington, DC, 23 May 2007. Bush is traveling to the United States Coast Guard Academy in New London, Connecticut, to give the commencement address at graduation ceremonies

http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/500/BlueAngelsTrainees1.jpg
Blue Angels trainees

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/69/Derblaueengel.jpg/215px-Derblaueengel.jpg

The Blue Angels operate out of the U.S. Naval Academy:
http://homepage.mac.com/swannman/Blue%20Angel%20Logo.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/United_State_Naval_Academy_Logo-sports.gif
hre is the Naval Academy symbol/logo:
http://www.cschl.com/player_photos/team_logo_12885.gif

http://www.grapeflix.com/USER_IMAGES/USER_577/Category_883/The_Blue_Angel.jpg

[amethyst]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/Anitababe/mk/logo.jpg
http://kathleenkeating.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=32
(green background as in emerald city)

she's another monarch with endtimes programming imo.

one of her books:
http://www.kathleenkeating.com/tfwmed.jpg


interestingly she also wrote one about conspiracies

http://www.kathleenkeating.com/gohsm.jpg



she's part of the
http://kathleenkeating.com/news//images/randoms/ernnetwork.jpg
;)

Hey soulja or anyone else,

who is Kathleen Keating?

After reading that little excerpt about one of her books, it appears that what she is doing in her books is sensationalistic in it's approach,and is promoting fear- and that is not something we should be doing: stiring up fear or giving into fear.

When someone is deliberately stiring up fear and not offering any alternative ideas or hope, that sends up red flags to me.

It's one thing to be aware and knowledgable of the issues. But if the intent is to intentionally do it, I find it suspect.

Uh oh,looked at her website: looks like she's promoting the rosary too. Like those little 'ole beads are going to help you:rolleyes:

[brown velvet]

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/15%2008%2008%20mimzy/AnneGeddes_Wallpaper1280_1621.jpg

Mimsy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimsy_Were_the_Borogoves) Were the Borogoves is a science fiction short story by Lewis Padgett (a pseudonym of Henry Kuttner and C. L. Moore) that was originally published in the February 1943 issue of Astounding Science Fiction Magazine.

I have done no research on this man, the list of pseudonyms IS immpresive though, talk about 'ghost writers' and the possibilities here seem endless.....

Plot summary
Many millions of years in the future, Unthahorsten, a scientist experimenting with time travel, sends two batches of children's toys to the past: one to the middle of the twentieth century and the second to the latter part of the nineteenth century. Believing the experiment to be a failure when the test objects fail to return on schedule, he discontinues his efforts, ignorant of the mischief he's caused.

The first box of toys travels back to 1942, and is discovered by a seven-year-old boy, Scott Paradine, who takes it home. The toys include a small transparent cube that visibly manifests the holder's thoughts within it; a wire maze puzzle that employs a fourth dimension; and a detailed anatomical doll that possesses unfamiliar organs and structures. As Scott and his two-year-old sister Emma play with the toys, the psychology of the two develops in unusual ways.

Although the parents, Dennis and Jane, are often preoccupied with their own lives, they suspect something odd is happening with their children and become worried. They consult with a child psychologist, Rex Holloway, who quickly recognizes the strangeness of the toys, suspects their origin to be alien. Holloway surmises that the toys are "educating" the children and introducing an "x factor" into Scott's and Emma's thought processes. He believes their developing minds are pliable enough to be profoundly affected by the devices.

The toys rapidly condition the Paradine children to begin constructing a pathway into the dimension where the people of the future live. At Holloway's direction their parents take the toys away from them. Undeterred, the children proceed with their efforts.

The second box of toys arrives in nineteenth century England, and is apparently found by Alice Liddell. Although she appears to be too old to be completely "educated" by the toys, one day she recites some verse learned from one of her "magic toys" while talking with her "Uncle Charles". Intrigued, he asks her what it means. Alice expresses uncertainty as to its meaning, but says she thinks "it's the way out." Uncle Charles says he will use the verses verbatim in one of his stories.

Back in 1942, Emma and Scott have stumbled upon Through the Looking-Glass, and the words of Lewis Carroll's "Jabberwocky (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabberwocky) " provide the missing key to a time-space equation that enables them to travel on to the alien destination. Their father arrives in the doorway of Scott's bedroom as the children vanish in a "direction Paradine could not understand."

Henry Kuttner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kuttner) and Moore
Kuttner was known for his literary prose and worked in close collaboration with his wife, C. L. Moore. They met through their association with the "Lovecraft Circle", a group of writers and fans who corresponded with H. P. Lovecraft. Their work together spanned the 1940s and 1950s and most of the work was credited to pseudonyms, mainly Lewis Padgett and Lawrence O'Donnell. Both freely admitted that one reason they worked so much together was because his page rate was higher than hers. In fact, several people have written or said that she wrote three stories which were published under his name. "Clash by Night" and The Portal in the Picture, also known as Beyond Earth's Gates, have both been alleged to have been written by her.
L. Sprague de Camp, who knew Kuttner and Moore well, has stated that their collaboration was so intensive that, after a story was completed, it was often impossible for either Kuttner or Moore to recall who had written which portions. According to de Camp, it was typical for either partner to break off from a story in mid-paragraph or even mid-sentence, with the latest page of the manuscript still in the typewriter. The other spouse would routinely continue the story where the first had left off. They alternated in this manner as many times as necessary until the story was finished.
Among Kuttner's most popular work were the Gallegher stories, published under the Padgett name, about a man who invented robots when he was stinking drunk, only to be completely unable to remember exactly why he had built them after sobering up. These stories were later collected in Robots Have No Tails. In the introduction to the paperback reprint edition after his death, Moore stated that all the Gallegher stories were written by Kuttner alone.

Since she signed her work "M. Brundage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Brundage)", many of the magazine's readers were unaware that the artist was female. (Complaints about the erotic nature of her work increased after October 1934, when editor Wright revealed that the "M." stood for "Margaret," that the artist was a woman.) After 1938, when the magazine's editorial offices moved from Chicago to New York City, a new 'decency' standard was imposed (primarily through the efforts of then-mayor of New York Fiorello La Guardia) on pulp magazines sold at newsstands, and the nude or semi-nude young women that had been the primary subjects of Brundage's covers were out. Practical problems with shipping Brundage's fragile pastel art from Chicago to New York also diminished her appeal to the editorial regime that followed Wright's 1940 departure.

http://members.aol.com/weirdtales/wt1033.jpg illustraitor of Weird Tales
Margaret (http://members.aol.com/weirdtales/brundage.htm) Brundage
Brundage: I was born in Chicago on 9 December, 1900 - my full name at birth was Margaret Hedda Johnson. On the one side, my mother's side, I'm Scots. On my father's side, Swedish. I went to McKinley High School, with Walt Disney. Of course, I finished; he didn't. He lied about his age to get into the Army in World War I. But we both went to art school together, to the Chicago Academy of Fine Art. I was there, I think, about 1921-1922-1923 or so, along there somewhere. I was considered one of their better students. I don't think I ever got their certificate of graduation, because I could never letter. Never! My lettering is the world's worst.

L. Sprague (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Sprague_de_Camp) de Camp, interesting....

The Trap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_Door_Spiders) Door Spiders were established by author Fletcher Pratt in 1944. The impetus for its formation was that his friend Dr. John D. Clark was about to marry. As the new Mrs. Clark was unpopular with her husband's friends, Pratt reasoned that the club would give them an excuse to spend time with him without her. Over the course of its existence the Trap Door Spiders has counted among its members numerous professional men, many of them writers and editors active in the science fiction genre, along with some prominent fans such as Dr. Clark.

The get-togethers of the Trap Door Spiders followed a set format, which remained consistent through the years; a meal, to which a guest would be invited by one of the members to be grilled by the others and form the focus of conversation for the evening. The grilling was traditionally begun by the host for the evening enquiring of the guest "How do you justify your existence?" or some variation, such as "Why do you exist?" Jack Coggins remembers that an editor for Reader's Digest went home from a meeting in tears after a brutally personal grilling. As of 1976, the club met roughly one Friday a month, eight or nine times a year, and maintained a membership of thirteen, among whom the privilege of hosting the meetings rotated. The host of a given meeting selected the restaurant, wine, and menu for the evening, and had the option of inviting one or two guests he believed might prove interesting to the other members.

'doll'
http://reneeashleybaker.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/baby-bunny-photo-by-anne-geddes.jpg

Moore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._L._Moore) met Henry Kuttner, also a science fiction writer, in 1936 when he wrote her a fan letter (mistakenly thinking that "C. L. Moore" was a man), and they married in 1940. Afterwards, almost all of their stories were written in collaboration under various pseudonyms, most commonly “Lewis Padgett”. (Another pseudonym, one Moore often employed for works that involved little or no collaboration, was "Lawrence O’Donnell".) In this very prolific partnership they managed to combine Moore's style with Kuttner's more cerebral storytelling. Their stories include the classic "Mimsy were the Borogoves" (the basis for the film The Last Mimzy) and "Vintage Season". They also collaborated on a story that combined Moore’s signature characters, Northwest Smith and Jirel of Joiry: "Quest of the Starstone" (1937). After Kuttner's death in 1958, Moore wrote almost no fiction and taught his writing course at the University of Southern California. She did write for a few television shows under her married name, but upon marrying Thomas Reggie (who was not a writer) in 1963, she ceased writing entirely.

Mimsy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimsy_Were_the_Borogoves) Were the Borogoves - just in case, tis easy to get side tracked :)

The Last Mimzy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimzy) is a 2007 science fiction family film directed by Bob Shaye and loosely adapted from the acclaimed 1943 science fiction short story "Mimsy Were the Borogoves" authored by Lewis Padgett (the pseudonym of husband and wife team Henry Kuttner and C. L. Moore). The Last Mimzy centers on two children, Noah (Chris O'Neil) and Emma (Rhiannon Leigh Wryn) Wilder, who develop preternatural powers when they encounter a mysterious box containing strange devices, presumed to be toys.

plot summary
Presented as a flashback, The Last Mimzy is the story of a distant future's attempt to find a solution, through time travel, to a catastrophic ecological disaster that has destroyed their world. High tech devices, masquerading as toys, are sent back in time into the hands of Noah and Emma. The children and their parents, Jo (Joely Richardson) and David (Timothy Hutton), live in early 21st century Seattle. The "toys" are mostly incomprehensible to Emma and Noah, except for what appears to be a stuffed rabbit named Mimzy. Sensing the strangeness of the devices, the children initially keep their discovery a secret from their parents.

Interaction with the devices causes the children to develop increased intelligence and psychic capabilities, including teleportation of objects, telepathy, levitation, telekinesis, and the ability to control bugs. Emma becomes emotionally attached to Mimzy, from which she learns how to further operate the devices. The children's unusual abilities and Emma's obsessive attachment to Mimzy soon alert their parents and schoolteachers to the devices. Later, a power black-out of the entire Pacific northwest caused by the toys alerts the FBI to their activities as well. The family is held for questioning, and it is revealed that Mimzy is actually an advanced form of artificial life utilizing nanotechnology. Mimzy has brought a message from humanity's future, where Emma explains that pollution has corrupted humanity's DNA. Many rabbits like Mimzy were sent to the past, but none had successfully returned; Mimzy is the last one remaining. Mimzy explains to the children that they must use the toys as a time machine to return her to the future with uncorrupted 21st century DNA, which the people of the future can use to correct the damage to their DNA caused by the ecological problems.

Despite attempts by an unbelieving FBI to hinder them, Noah and Emma use their psychic powers to escape with Mimzy and the other objects and are able to initiate the time transport so Mimzy can return to the future. Fortunately, Mimzy carries with it a tear from Emma, thus providing the pure DNA required to prevent the disaster. In the new future, Emma is revered as the "mother" of all the present generations, and the children exhibit the same psychic gifts that Emma had developed. The world has become a more beautiful place, where it is presumed that humanity has integrated better into the natural ecosystems.
http://www.slashphone.com/media/data/1107/anne-geddes-3.jpg
Response
Critical response to The Last Mimzy ranged from saying it holds appeal for family audiences — especially children — to describing the storyline as cluttered and distracting. Jeannette Catsoulis of The New York Times called it, "Wholesome, eager entertainment that doesn't talk down", agreeing with Ken Fox of TV Guide's Movie Guide who said it was "a thoughtful and sincere interpretation that might actually get kids and their guardians thinking and talking." Calling the film "lightweight", the Atlanta Journal-Constitution rated it a "small gem". Many of the critics found the plot burdened with irrelevant, distracting elements, saying it "simply collapses under the considerable weight of its many bewildering plot elements". The Chicago Sun-Times went as far as to say The Last Mimzy is an "emotionless empty shell" compared to E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial. Critics diverge about the scientific validity of the film. Reviewer Susan Granger said, "There’s some validity to the challenging science depicted in the film, according to Dr. Brian Greene, Columbia University physics professor, and Dr. Susan Smalley, UCLA neurobehavioral genetics professor."



http://blog.mandarinaduck.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/ny_apple_store.jpg
transparent cube
The Apple Store in New York looks like a big transparent (http://duckside.mandarinaduck.com/an-apple-in-new-york-city/) cube with its long-standing logo hanging in the centre. Going down the escalator is like taking Morpheus’s red pill. You’ll find yourself in Wonderland. Whoever has visited one, knows what I’m talking about.

The entrance is via a descending staircase in a transparent cube, in a plaza in front of the GM Building at 767 Fifth Avenue -- the same skyscraper that contains the legendary FAO Schwarz toy store.
The entrance is evocative of I.M. Pei's glass pyramid at the entrance to the Louvre in Paris.
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/15%2008%2008%20mimzy/AppleMecca.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/15%2008%2008%20mimzy/bigappletransparentcube.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/u47/caruncho4/large/30013829.eurotrip077.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/15%2008%2008%20mimzy/pyramidpuzzlepyapairt.jpg
may trigger!!! No kidding, be aware (http://www.elica.net/site/museum/museum.html).
http://www.elica.net/site/museum/Transparent%20Cube.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:veyN7tGG6REJlM:

from here (http://http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/10/page/2/)...
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/PopularScience/10-1962/tiny_amp.jpg


transparent square
http://iq-puzzle.com.hk/images/3x3clear.jpg


Ice (http://iq-puzzle.com.hk/product_info.php?products_id=225&osCsid=0384af3f28df6d3d3ecd40c0a3dbe259) House
http://iq-puzzle.com.hk/images/ice%20house.jpg

Glitter (http://www.orientaltrading.com/ui/browse/processRequest.do?demandPrefix=11&productId=IN-25/1640&mode=Browsing&requestURI=processProductsCatalog&xsaleSku=25/8&sku=25/1640&cm_sp=Cross%20Sell-_-Product%20Detail-_-Product%20Detail) Cube Mind-Teasers

http://image.orientaltrading.com/otcimg/25_1640a.jpg?resize(350x350)

easter bunny geddes doll
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/15%2008%2008%20mimzy/Anne_Geddes_Easter_Bunny.jpg

wire / metal puzzles
site (http://stores.brilliantpuzzles.com/-strse-210/metal-puzzle-brain-teaser/Detail.bok) ...

http://stores.brilliantpuzzles.com/catalog/oskars_maze[1].gif


http://mathpuzzle.com/Conway120cell.gif

120 (http://mathpuzzle.com/17Dec06.html)-cell Sculpture
Ivars also wrote about a recently dedicated 120-cell scupture. Here's a picture from that event, showing the 120-cell trapping John Conway's arm in the 4th dimension. It was part of a dedication for Coxeter, whose biography, King of Infinite Space, recently came out.


inspiration
http://www.hranajanto.com/pgfx/spartan-400.JPG

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs22/i/2007/345/c/1/Criptex_by_the_metalchemist.jpg
Artist's (http://the-metalchemist.deviantart.com/art/Criptex-69886124) Comments
The theme for this project was 'Hidden Meaning.' We were instructed to construct something that had some deeper meaning that could be discovered through the artwork.

I decided on a criptex, a device that is designed to never be opened by anyone who doesn't know the right combination, for the purpose of delivering a message or item that demands secrecy.

This criptex is operated by navigating the maze in and out of the outer protective cylander. I personally designed the maze using a maze generating program online, added a few major changes and added specific points on the maze that will lock-up unless there is just the right amount of pressure in the right place. It took forever to saw out that maze.

So far, no one has been able to make it all the way through the maze except myself, since I memorized the path. Most people in my class cannot get past the first inch of the maze. Only one got about half way before giving up.
- note also see Q+A from artist




Pyramid (http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/AbyssusDaedalus.html) gallery.
The Labyrinth Configuration
http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/AbyssusDaedalusOriginal.jpg
For many years, the only proof of the existence of this elusive box was an ancient photograph and the stories told amongst the knowledgeable few.

http://www.pyramid-gallery.com/AbyssusDaedalusEnhancement.jpg


http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/089/c/d/mimzy_by_tirsden.jpg

Sculpture called Sphere by A. Pomodoro (http://www.artnet.com/artist/13632/arnaldo-pomodoro.html), Vatican Courtyard, Rome, Italy
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Chuck-Haney/Sculpture-called-Sphere-by-A-Pomodoro-Vatican-Courtyard-Rome-Italy-Photographic-Print-C12919666.jpeg
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs18/300W/i/2007/136/2/e/Between_Heaven_and_Earth_by_Eairy.jpg
Artist's Comments
Ah. Now for the meaning of this orb. From what I remember, it's a representation of the links between Heaven and Earth. I think. It's a the Vatican. Can't remember the title or artist's name.


http://www.epdlp.com/fotos/pomodoro4.jpg
This is Sphere (http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/printthread.php/Cat/0/Board/EarthTravel/main/118441/type/thread) within a sphere by Arnaldo Pomodoro: a bronze sculpture, 3.3 m. in diameter, gifted by Italian Government to United Nations in 1996 and placed nearby UN Headquartes in New York City.


eight pointed star = a symbol of chaos

This is a large drawing I (http://oregonartteacher.deviantart.com/art/Convergence-of-Being-26068980) created for a 2-D design course I took at the U of O. The assignment was to create a centripital design. I included a slight 1st person self portrait (with the use of the hands) as well as small pattern elements from older artworks (many of which you can recognize from the other works in my gallery). I included the 8 pointed star which has the following symbolic connotations:

http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs8/i/2005/339/e/f/Convergence_of_Being_by_OregonArtTeacher.jpg

The 8 pointed star is a Gnostic symbol, known as the octagram of creation. It is related to
Venus, and also sacred to Ishtar. In Nordic traditions the octagram is used to invoke magick
and also as a protecting ideogram. Chaospheres have 8 points - order (90 degrees) and chaos
(45 degrees). Also the traditional Star of Ishtar. Composed of two intertwined squares, this is a
symbol of regeneration. It is a symbol for the natural universe interweaving order and disorder,
yin and yang, to create an ultimately harmonious and balanced design

The octagram or eight-pointed star is a symbol of fullness and regeneration. Through its links
with the great eight-fold systems of East and West - the trigrams of the I Ching and the pagan
wheel of the year - the octagram gains its connotations of wholeness, rebirth and cyclical
infinity. The octagram's association with infinity is further strengthened by the lemniscate, the
symbol for infinity, taking the form of a figure eight on its side, and through its links to the eight
primal deities of ancient Egypt, the Ogdoad. The octagram's associated polygon, the octagon,
is intermediate between square and circle, confirming the sense of spiritual regeneration. Thus
many baptisteries and fonts are octagonal, though twelve sided figures are sometimes used as
twelve is linked to totality. As an expression of the number eight and in its aspect of making
sense of and communicating wholeness and regeneration, the octagram is linked to the
Kabbalistic sefira Hod. It is also know that the octagram was a symbol of Ishtar, Akkadian
Goddess representing Venus and invoking the force of life. On the web that a version of
an eight-pointed star, derived from St. John's cross, appears on firemen's helmets in Gibraltar.


site (http://www.educationaltoysplanet.com/swirly-orb.html)
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-77232211527973_2010_35802877




http://www.wonderbrains.com/images/brands/orbfactory.gif
The Orb (http://wonderbrains.com/orb-factory.html) Factory Ltd. is a Canadian designer and manufacturer of innovative toys, craft kits, puzzles, and educational products. All of our products are designed and manufactured in Halifax, Nova Scotia. We work directly with parents and children to develop our international award winning products, which are now sold to over 20 countries. Our mandate is to offer our customers a clear alternative to existing toy offerings through the quality of our designs, the play value, and educational content of our products.
Multiple Intelligence Icons (http://www.wonderbrains.com/help/miicons.html)
Spatial
http://www.wonderbrains.com/images/icons/spatial-sm.gif

Children with Spatial intelligence have the ability to create visual-spatial representations and can transfer them mentally or concretely. Students who exhibit this intelligence need a mental or physical "picture" to understand the information being presented.

http://www.wonderbrains.com/images/products/v/vectorsphere_1_large.jpg


parabolus?

http://www.wonderbrains.com/images/products/p/parabolus_2_large.jpg

artist ~temabina (http://temabina.deviantart.com/art/A-Lover-13847037)

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs5/i/2005/005/3/3/A_Lover_by_temabina.jpg



http://www.wonderbrains.com/images/products/p/peace-ring_1_large.jpg
Peace (http://www.wonderbrains.com/peace-ring.html) ring
The multicolored beads represent the many beautiful colors of humanity. As you manipulate this orb, think about the possibility of world peace. The series of seven rings represent the continents and oceans.

Celestial Orb (http://www.wonderbrains.com/celestial-orb-for-girls.html) for Girls
http://www.wonderbrains.com/images/products/c/celestial-orb-for-girls_1_large.jpg

An orb for girls! It's fun, fashionable, & fabulous! It turns into a butterfly from a bracelet. So many amazing shapes and so many ways to play.
This unique sculpture toy is made of durable high-quality stainless steel, guaranteed against breakage. Included are illustrations of many interesting shape possibilities. The wires have beautiful beads for enhanced visuality.

This beautiful transforming (http://www.wonderbrains.com/celeste-pendant.html) necklace will always be in style!
http://www.wonderbrains.com/images/products/c/celeste-pendant_1_large.jpg

strange doll
http://www.nevayburke.freeserve.co.uk/waiting%20for%20mr%20bluebeard.jpg

http://www.nevayburke.freeserve.co.uk/study%20for%20broken%20doll.jpg

http://www.nevayburke.freeserve.co.uk/Sailor%20Boy.jpg

Charmed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charmed)

Paige (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbing#Paige)
Her telekinesis takes the form of telekinetic orbing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbing), where she has to call for an object and it will move with orbs. This can sometimes take the form of psychokinetic orbing, where she can sometimes move objects to and from places she cannot see, She first had a glimse at willing things with her mind in Season 4 when she went to limbo and in Season 6 when she move King Arthur's sword and stone up to the attic in "Sword in the City". As a whitelighter, she could also orb, initially a response to fear. Paige later mastered this ability and could orb to places willingly and take people with her if necessary.

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http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/15%2008%2008%20mimzy/EuylersFlush.jpg

Artist (http://theneongreensage.deviantart.com/art/Euler-s-Flush-86182375)'s Comments
In mathematical analysis, Euler's identity, named after Leonhard Euler, is the equation

eiπ+1=0

where
e is Euler's number, the base of the natural logarithm,
i is the imaginary unit, one of the two complex numbers whose square is negative one (the other is -i), and
π is pi, the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter.

Euler's identity is considered by many to be remarkable for its mathematical beauty. Three basic arithmetic operations occur exactly once each: addition, multiplication, and exponentiation. The identity also links five fundamental mathematical constants:
* The number 0.
* The number 1.
* The number π, which is ubiquitous in trigonometry, geometry of Euclidean space, and mathematical analysis.
* The number e, the base of natural logarithms, which also occurs widely in mathematical analysis (e ≈ 2.71828).
* The number i, imaginary unit of the complex numbers, which contain the roots of all nonconstant polynomials and lead to deeper insight into many operators, such as integration.

Furthermore, in mathematical analysis, equations are commonly written with zero on one side.



http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/15%2008%2008%20mimzy/lotsofmimzys.jpg



Anyone help me with this shape?
I know I have seen it as a small 'soft / plush toy' (I think) in a film, was wondering if anyone can find the film. I got reminded about it when hunkahunka sent me the huge starfish shape.

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/15%2008%2008%20mimzy/synapse003.jpg



brown.

[astral_girl]

whats the thing about butterflys guys?
i like butterflys myself...:)

[eternal_spirit]

Project Monarch was/is a mind control project (Monarch butterfly) But there's more to it than that some info is on this thread.

[rixxmixxhell]

whats the thing about butterflys guys?
i like butterflys myself...:)

Hi Astral Girl :)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31382

I like butterflies too :) I helped design a house in Zimbabwe for a rare collection..

Rick

[astral_girl]

THANKS am reading info now....;)

[astral_girl]

[QUOTE=rixxmixxhell;461756]Hi Astral Girl :)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31382

I like butterflies too :) I helped design a house in Zimbabwe for a rare collection..

Rick[/QUOT

UTTERLY DISGUSTING.............had hard time reading it...have read about that mengle before -had me in tears.....:(

[amethyst]

[QUOTE=rixxmixxhell;461756]Hi Astral Girl :)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31382

I like butterflies too :) I helped design a house in Zimbabwe for a rare collection..

Rick[/QUOT

UTTERLY DISGUSTING.............had hard time reading it...have read about that mengle before -had me in tears.....:(

I like butterflies and rainbows and candy and other such stuff too......but the illuminated, elite ones have taken something perfectly innocent and enjoyable and turned it into a tool for evil, which is very very tragic.

But just because they try and do this does not stop me from enjoying butterflies and rainbows and kittens and candy :)

To the pure, all things are pure......but to the evil-eyed, all thing are corrupted.

[hunkahunka]

Hi Astral Girl :)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31382


Rick

thanks for this post, Rick. Springmeir's research is
amazing. How did he uncover all of this? I finally have the preparation necessary to read and understand Springmeir's findings, but he is a good writer in the sense that he uses plain language that the average person can absorb. This thread has gone quiet while we
all watch the 'sold their souls for rock n' roll' videos, and then read your long post!
I hope people will be back posting soon.

[rixxmixxhell]

[QUOTE=rixxmixxhell;461756]Hi Astral Girl :)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31382

I like butterflies too :) I helped design a house in Zimbabwe for a rare collection..

Rick[/QUOT

UTTERLY DISGUSTING.............had hard time reading it...have read about that mengle before -had me in tears.....:(

Yes, i'm sorry it made you feel like that, evident that you are very sensitive and open. But being aware of it maybe some people should not know:confused:

Much love.:)

Rick

[rixxmixxhell]

thanks for this post, Rick. Springmeir's research is
amazing. How did he uncover all of this? I finally have the preparation necessary to read and understand Springmeir's findings, but he is a good writer in the sense that he uses plain language that the average person can absorb. This thread has gone quiet while we
all watch the 'sold their souls for rock n' roll' videos, and then read your long post!
I hope people will be back posting soon.

No problem. I tried to make the post as easy to read as possible. A one off.

I didn't catch them videos ((of sold their souls for rock and roll)), I must have over looked the page they are on:confused::confused: Do you know where they are?

EDIT: i found parts 1 to 4 on goggle, is this the one:confused:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7241927777199740631

Rick

[rixxmixxhell]

Let Me Say.

Lets Never Lose Sight Of The Purity We Contain.

No Matter What Has Happened - What We Uncover - What We Learn - We Can Always Know Light Does Not Favour The Dark.

They Will Not Carry On.

I Cant Find Excuses, That I Am Not. But We Must Never Lose Sight Of The Goodness The ''we'' Contain.

The Darkness Stepped Into The Sight of Light By Becoming Ignorant And Arrogant. By That Alone We Can Find The Dark Cloaks And Rid Them.

Meditate on this because it's easy to become depressed and affected, unless you have been through so much and seen that you become a numb body.

Rick

[hunkahunka]

No problem. I tried to make the post as easy to read as possible. A one off.

I didn't catch them videos ((of sold their souls for rock and roll)), I must have over looked the page they are on:confused::confused: Do you know where they are?

EDIT: i found parts 1 to 4 on goggle, is this the one:confused:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7241927777199740631

Rick

yes that is the movie link , it was posted earlier in this thread a couple of days ago. Here is the whole movie:

http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Resources/Clips/SoldForRockNRoll.htm
it is such a long documentary, and so is your thread, that people will not have much time to other research while absorbing these latest additions.

I thought the 'Sold Their Souls' video contained some very interesting information and insights pertinent to this thread, though it is a couple of years old , and obviously its creators could have benefited from the insights & research of people such as Springmeir and yourself! Your thread is excellent, and comprehensive. When I started to read it, I could not stop reading it, and wondered at times who had written which parts.
Regardless, I highly recommend that everyone go to the thread that you posted here:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31382
also, like you said, it is important for people not to lose hope when they grasp the magnitude of what faces us. Do not give in to your own weaknesses, people, because that is what they want to happen to you in this time of revealing. You are supposed to lose hope, give up, and indulge your own self-destructive programming during this time. Do not!

[hunkahunka]

Alice Cooper just played a big concert at the big Hells Angels rally at
Sturgis, S. Dakota last week:http://hobkirk.com/photos/Sturgis/DAY4/COOPERCONCERT/DAY4ACC.html

http://hobkirk.com/photos/Sturgis/DAY4/COOPERCONCERT/ALICE_AT_STURGIS12B.jpg
Alice Cooper on stage at 'Buffalo Chip' venue in Sturgis, South Dakota


http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles5589.jpg
George Bush statue in Rapid City (just four miles south of Sturgis)

http://harley.munising.com/images/clinton_ceo_jeffery_bleustein.jpg
Bill Clinton with Harley Davidson CEO Jeffery Bleustein

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1263/605899108_04ad78fccd.jpg?v=0
Bill Clinton with Kid Rock

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Photos/sturgis8-16.jpg
Kid Rock plays the Sturgis Bike Rally (annual Hells Angels pilgrimage)

http://elections.foxnews.com/files/2008/06/clinton_sd_060208.jpg
Hillary Clinton campaigns near statue of Ronald Reagan in Rapid City

[rixxmixxhell]

yes that is the movie link , it was posted earlier

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31382
also, like you said, it is important for people not to lose hope when they grasp the magnitude of what faces us. Do not give in to your own weaknesses, people, because that is what they want to happen to you in this time of revealing. You are supposed to lose hope, give up, and indulge your own self-destructive programming during this time. Do not!

Bloody well said mate. Glad others get to see the thread.

I second you about the documentary -over all after seeing only 2 parts of 4 they give some good examples. However, some rock, or rather metal music isn't all like that. Maybe Sepultura as an example, Napalm death, Soulfly ??? You know, talk about integrity, open mindness, (to a certain extent - we cant all tell our messages in free form without someone or something trying to hijack you)

It's so true yet so hard for the masses to see, i never see rock music in it's true form until i really looked at it - i was brought up on Status Quo and Motorhead. Not the worst by any means, Status Quo i think to me are just plain rockers, no fire and devil horns so to speak.

Soulful i respect for this. Although I'm afraid they finally caught up with Max Cavalera - the new album has a pyramid with skulls on the bottom.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/myspaceimages/soulfly/soulflyart.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2553699049_db76f76469.jpg

The top picture could be manipulated to look like a pentagram. Thing is i know the artist is contracted, so a decision on the record companies part i guess???? The logo at the bottom in the beings hand is the bands logo designed by an artist called Leo *something*.

Quote from Max Cavalera:
I do hate a lot of 'religion' but people like Christ - yeah they inspire me. I mean if you look at Christ, He was hanging around with the lowlifes, prostitutes and the losers you know, not going around with those high society motherfuckers you see trying to sell Jesus today![1] ”

When asked in an interview if he is a Christian/if Soulfly is a Christian band, he said:
“ No. I mean, if I was a Christian I would wear all these different kinds of omens. Because Christian people are so close minded. A priest would not accept that. So I don't like the concept of Christianity in terms of being so close minded. It is the same with music. Sometimes I compare preachers to close minded musicians or close minded listeners, who only like one kind of music. Some preachers are the same. And they don't tolerate Hindus, Buddhists or whatever. Only them. It's bullshit. So Soulfly is not a Christian band at all. Very much opposite. But we are very spiritual. Spiritual has nothing to do with Christianity anyway. It has been here since the beginning of time.[2] ”

He also stated that he does believe in God, "But it might be different than the God the preacher preaches about."


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Back to the video...
It is very obvious the *sublims* lyrics etc are for harm. Some bands are just unwitting and want to look *cool* or *hard* and some i feel are groomed from birth or picked up when promising boys/girls like Manson? THIS we must look into more. Mickey mouse club etc for heavy metal bands:eek:


Other bands with pentagram use, pyramids, cubes, etc...

Down - Phil Anselmo of Pantera and Corrosion of Conformitys' Pepper Keenan.

(I see the mason handshake in the album art, its used on their forum i noticed wile looking for the pics.....it's used as the forum '''reply to topic''' link..

http://www.downboard.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=27310&sid=57248bb405e26eeca0aab961b92ea591)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/Down_III.jpg

Super joint Ritual ((Phil Anselmo Again))

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/SuperjointRitual-UseOnceandDestroy.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/SuperjointRitual-LethalDose.jpg


These bands get energy from masses of people coming from Pantera fame!.

Sepultura Live Album:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000BLI3CU.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


The 'S' logo in the centre is their Band Logo since 1991.

( Snake / bones 'S' for Sepultura)

http://www.piercingmetal.com/graphics/logo_sepultura.jpg


Sepultura Logo with in the Chaos Logo, 8 pointed star.

http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/supultura_logo.jpg

Sepultura '666' - used as the komodo drummers logo - but we all know logos and symbols have pseudo meanings.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Sepultura_-_Against.jpg

Sometimes i feel it's plan ignorance of the bands part to allow such images. Like they truly are unaware how they work. Probably why record company execs decide artist or at least do the final *approval*???????

Thought i'd have a try at contributing :) Not on your levels though!

Rick

(hope images show)

[hunkahunka]

http://s179.photobucket.com/albums/w285/kimmychilds/hdm/hd0910.gif
yankee rose tattoo, butterfly tattoo, plus whatever hidden tongue/genital piercings, STD's, programming etc.

Rolling With McCain In South Dakota

The billboard on the road into Sturgis, site of the 68th annual motorcycle rally, read "Kellie Pickler, Kid Rock and John McCain," in that order, for the night's mainstage event at the Buffalo Chip campground. The McCain campaign folks back at the Virginia HQ must have been pulling their very human hair, but what does a war hero care about third billing?

I am at the event. I am choking on nitro, mown hay, chopper dust and pot. Police dogs are sweeping the crowd. The mainstage announcer says bikers have to move out of the security perimeter during the sweep. "Be sure to take all knives and bombs with you," he chortles. For sure, the knives are real. Cruising through town, I pass a "knives sharpened here" booth at the Episcopal Church. Three aged and rounded cavaliers of the road lounge before a poster, hand-drawn in black and red, featuring a dripping dagger and the advertise

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/rolling-with-mccain-throu_b_116962.html


http://s.wsj.net/media/mccain_bikers_ssh_20080805101110.jpg
Supporters of John McCain hold up signs during the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally at the Buffalo Chip campground on Monday in Sturgis, S.D. (AP)


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/hyecarl/peoples/1101_kid_rock_a.jpg
Kid Rock with his motorcycle

http://www.dvdandcdspot.com/images/ADULT/hells%20angels.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://www.hellsangels818.de/img_history/jacket_1.jpg

http://www.hellsangels818.de/img_history/flugzeug_1.jpg

http://untoldvalor.com/images/hell_s_angels_plane_mb.jpg

http://www.hells-angels.com/images/fly.jpg

http://members.aol.com/WW2JeepMBGPW/Photos/AVGjeepChristensenFordGP.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Hells_Angels_Mural_-_Southampton.jpg/800px-Hells_Angels_Mural_-_Southampton.jpg
Now we know what 'MC' stands for here : Motorcycle Club. or?
see the spiral?

http://www.hellsangels818.de/img_history/pp-ha-home_1.jpg

http://www.victory-girl.com/images/3rd-Pursuit-1.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://jeffdean2.home.att.net/xa-gi.jpg
During World War II, the U.S. Army asked Harley-Davidson to produce a motorcycle as good as BMW's side-valve R71. So Harley copied the BMW, simply converting metric measurements to inches, and produced the shaft-drive 750cc 1942 Harley-Davidson XA

http://www.gaastra.cc/Klassieke%20Motorplaatjes/Harley%20Davidson%20WLA1942.jpg

[soulja]

http://www.zaghsia.com/images/english/AvrilLavine-GirlFriend.jpg
pic's from Avrils 'girlfriend' video

[soulja]

Blink 182 albumcover
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000IPAX.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
butterfly tat, triple 6 handsign

[soulja]

this one also gives me an MK vibe
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000HZFH.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[turquoisefire777]

Amazing isn't it to think that the CIA spotted the untapped potential of Kurt Cobain as a musician, before the rest of the world-therefore the CIA are better than the A&R men of the music industry. And there I was sending of my music to Sony and Warner when I should be sending it to the CIA...Thanks

lol, you're spot on. or maybe you should join the CIA and then form your music career...let them sponsor it...that way you might earn some loyalty points from within the cabal...so they'll just fake your death...

...or something like that...:D

[soulja]

alicia Keys has that one eye style going.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002IRXT6.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/k/keys_alicia_remixedun_101b.jpg

http://www.whudat.com/news/images/giant-alicia-keys-dec-07-cover.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/startracks/071022/alicia_keys.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://www.303rdbg.com/art-hill-legend.jpg

http://www.303rdbg.com/na-hellsangels.jpg

http://members.aol.com/WW2SquadronPatch/Patches/AVGFlyingTiger3rdSQGirlSitTN.jpg
this image adorned the Hells Angels bombers/3rd pursuit squadron fighters

http://www.tjjewelry.com/military/abi13.jpg
Hells Angels parachute regiment

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/0/0a/Hell%27sAngelsPoster.gif

http://members.aol.com/safari4x4/WWIIPatchForSale/PatchAVG3sqStandRoundTN.jpg

http://www.bookpalace.com/acatalog/MaguireHellsAngels.jpg

[soulja]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/0/0a/Hell%27sAngelsPoster.gif


reminds me at that madonna pic with that guy's head served on a silver plate.

[hunkahunka]

reminds me at that madonna pic with that guy's head served on a silver plate.

very keen eye you have got there. You are right, she is dangling the guy's head like a grape or an apple.
there are famous paintings titled 'Madonna of the Grapes' and engravings called 'Madonna of the apple', btw

[sindakit]

sorry if this is a bit off the flow of the thread

but i was talking to my friend trying to wake him up a bit and thought i'd talk of things he's interested in so that he'd actually listen and i mentioned cobain being murdered by the CIA. We spoke a bit about MKultra and how alot of the programming starts to break down on some around age 30. Then he mentioned "the 27 club"..... i was like 'wha!?'

apparently there are alot of celebrities that have been killed or commited 'suicide' at the age of 27 is what he told me and his old flat mate, who was into Cobain in a big way, wanted to kill himself when he's 27 so he can be in that club :confused:

just thought i'd ask have you heard of the '27 club' or this theory and is it related to mind controled slaves that are killed before they tell of any secrets?

i told him i'd get back to him on that :P he also wants to know of symbolism of Topman lol (he's a bit random), i mentioned i'll find out who owns topshop and let him know so if anyone happens to know which group or conglomerate owns them i could take it from there :D

[sindakit]

ignore the topman request :P i got this

http://www.thebigchoice.com/images/arcadia_group_logo.gif

sry for this deviation

[cheeb]

sorry if this is a bit off the flow of the thread

but i was talking to my friend trying to wake him up a bit and thought i'd talk of things he's interested in so that he'd actually listen and i mentioned cobain being murdered by the CIA. We spoke a bit about MKultra and how alot of the programming starts to break down on some around age 30. Then he mentioned "the 27 club"..... i was like 'wha!?'

apparently there are alot of celebrities that have been killed or commited 'suicide' at the age of 27 is what he told me and his old flat mate, who was into Cobain in a big way, wanted to kill himself when he's 27 so he can be in that club :confused:

just thought i'd ask have you heard of the '27 club' or this theory and is it related to mind controled slaves that are killed before they tell of any secrets?

i told him i'd get back to him on that :P he also wants to know of symbolism of Topman lol (he's a bit random), i mentioned i'll find out who owns topshop and let him know so if anyone happens to know which group or conglomerate owns them i could take it from there :D

There Are A Few Posts On Here Dealing With The 27 Club...

The 27 Club:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

Brian Jones
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9742/brianjonesnr0.jpg
One Eye, Rainbow, Spirals..

Lewis Brian Hopkin Jones (28 February 1942 – 3 July 1969) was a co-founding member, guitarist and multi-instrumentalist in the English rock group The Rolling Stones.

Jones was known for his skills on multiple instruments, fashionable mod image, drug and sexual excesses, and his death at age 27.


http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8722/vicd006or2.jpg
Cross Of Lorraine

Psychick T.V.
The Psychic TV song "Godstar" is about Jones' death, as is Robyn Hitchcock's "Trash." The Doors' song "Tightrope Ride" was originally written for Jones by Morrison, but after Morrison's death fellow Doors member Ray Manzarek rewrote some of the lyrics to apply them to both musicians. Toy Love's song "Swimming Pool" lists several dead rock icons including Jones (the others are Morrison, Hendrix, and Marc Bolan).

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s1yr8w_vZ5E

Psychick T.V. And Brian Jones Are Worty Of Their Own Thread!!!!

Genesis P. Orridge

Genesis Breyer P-Orridge (born February 22, 1950) is an English performer, musician, writer and artist. His early confrontational performance work with COUM Transmissions in the late 1960s and early 1970s along with the industrial band Throbbing Gristle, which dealt with subjects such as prostitution, pornography, serial killers, and occultism, generated controversy

Name change and Early Worm

In 1968, while attending Hull University, Neil subsumed himself into the character of Genesis P-Orridge.

M.P.D.

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3871/gencompke8.jpg

1971 to 1976

In 1971, P-Orridge met William S. Burroughs after a brief correspondence. One of the most significant outcomes of these exchanges was Burroughs's introduction of P-Orridge to Brion Gysin. Gysin would become a major influence upon P-Orridge's ideas and works and was his primary tutor in magick.

William Burroughs
Hmnnnnnnn!!!!!
Imaged Removed..!!!
Gun

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9583/williamburroughsjd9.jpg
Gun

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/104/williamburroughsoneeyeme0.jpg
Gun Reptilian Eye

Kurt Cobain
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/143/kurtandwilliamzc8.jpg
Kurt Cobain And William Burroughs

At Timberland Library [high school senior Kurt Cobain] discovered S.E. Hinton and William Burroughs, whose work would have an increasing influence on Cobain’s life. He read Burgess admiringly and J.D. Salinger without complaint.
— Christopher Sandford, Kurt Cobain

Cobain himself was an acknowledged fan of Burroughs’ oeuvre and first met with his hero in culture-space on a recording entitled The “Priest” They Called Him. This EP is constructed from a reading by Burroughs (recorded at his home in Lawrence, Kansas on 25 September 1992) overdubbed with Cobain’s guitar accompaniment (recorded in November 1992, at Laundry Room Studios in Seattle). Cobain later faxed Burroughs asking if he would play a crucifixion victim in a video for Nirvana’s forthcoming “Heart-Shaped Box” single. Burroughs declined but a meeting between the two was arranged and took place at Burroughs’ home in October 1993.

William Burroughs
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7748/williamsburroughswgunuo7.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1441/cobaingunma9.jpg
Kurt Cobain

[hunkahunka]

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3871/gencompke8.jpg
]

spot the spiral?


Genesis P-Orridge

Early life

Neil Andrew Megson was born in Victoria Park, Manchester. His parents were involved in theatre and music. His father, Ron, was a Jazz musician. A photograph of Neil, age five, appears on the cover of the CD A Hollow Cost.
http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/images/amg_covers/200/drf600/f638/f63801abwgi.jpg
In his teens he attended Solihull School. He became interested in the occult; his grandmother was a medium.

look at those eyes on a five year old.

http://www.intuitivemusic.com/images/N-genesis-p-orridge-199.jpg
here he is with his breast implants and you still see that spiral tattoo

checkit out, this guy is a project
http://www.ashejournal.com/three/breakingsex.shtml

[hunkahunka]

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j53/PaulEbanks/VID128A-176x249.jpg

Video:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8681225708920427234&ei=cuWoSK_OJo2q_AHpkqk1&q=the+mena+connection&hl=en

Film that includes clips from mainsteam media at the time, CBS etc. http://www.ncoic.com/clinton.htm ARKANSAS GOVERNOR BILL CLINTON PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH CIA DRUGS FOR GUNS CONNECTION By Paul DeRienzo An independent group of researchers in Arkansas are charging that Governor Bill Clinton is covering up an airport used by the CIA and major cocaine smugglers in a remote corner of the Ozark mountains. According to Deborah Robinson of In These Times, the Inter mountain Regional Airport in Mena,Arkansas continues to be the hub of operations for people like assassinated cocaine kingpin Barry Seal as well as government intelligence operations linked to arms and drug smuggling. In the 1980's, the Mena airport became one of the world's largest aircraft refurbishing centers, providing services to planes from many countries.Researchers claim that the largest consumers of aircraft refurbishing services are drug smugglers and intelligence agencies involved in covert activities.In fact, residents of Mena, Arkansas, have told reporters that former marine Lt. Colonel Oliver North was a frequent visitor during the 1980's. Eugene Hasenfus, a pilot who was shot down in a Contra supply plane over Nicaragua in 1986, was also seen in town renting cargo vehicles. A federal Grand Jury looking into activities at the Mena airport refused to hand down any indictments after drug running charges were made public.Deborah Robinson says that Clinton had "ignored the situation" until he began his presidential campaign." Clinton then said he would provide money for a state run investigation of the Mena airport. But according to Robinson, the promise of an investigation was never followed up by Clinton's staff. In fact, a local Arkansas state prosecutor blasted Clinton's promise of an investigation, comparing it to "spitting on a forest fire.

[cheeb]

spot the spiral?


look at those eyes on a five year old.

http://www.intuitivemusic.com/images/N-genesis-p-orridge-199.jpg
here he is with his breast implants and you still see that spiral tattoo

checkit out, this guy is a project
http://www.ashejournal.com/three/breakingsex.shtml


Genesis P-Orridge

Early life

Neil Andrew Megson was born in Victoria Park, Manchester. His parents were involved in theatre and music. His father, Ron, was a Jazz musician. A photograph of Neil, age five, appears on the cover of the CD A Hollow Cost.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8753/hollowse9.jpg
Holocaust...

In his teens he attended Solihull School. He became interested in the occult; his grandmother was a medium.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/458/holocaust001pv5.jpg
Holocaust...

[brown velvet]

spot the spiral?
look at those eyes on a five year old.

those eyes..... How old? :(

Hi,

yep, I did, found these too, here (http://flickr.com/photos/gerryvisco/sets/72157604086627593/) .....


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/18%2008%2008%20she%20he/180808LadyJayeBreyerP-Orridge.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/18%2008%2008%20she%20he/180808LadyJayeBreyerP-Orridge02.jpg

I don't know what the 'jesus' image is, in the interview s/he (Genesis Breyer P-Orridge) says something about the father banning a beard,..... :confused: most odd. Also the image with the implants, there seems to be some kind of 'drain' am wondering if that is what 'jesus' is holding...


brown.

[brown velvet]

No problem. I tried to make the post as easy to read as possible. A one off.

I didn't catch them videos ((of sold their souls for rock and roll)), I must have over looked the page they are on:confused::confused: Do you know where they are?

EDIT: i found parts 1 to 4 on goggle, is this the one:confused:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7241927777199740631

Rick

hi

SoldForRockNRoll (http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/Resources/Clips/SoldForRockNRoll.htm)

part 2 of 4, 51.00 minutes through, the end of an interview with Spice Girls and the program starts to talk about the (non) sex values young girls are learning. I cannot believe the film that was shown. If the KFC program upset you, this is the horrific human version. I am not attempting to bring this to an 'abortion or a religious' thread or comment, what has deeply shocked me is that I had no idea this was even a possibility. Absolutely sickening. WILL TRIGGER. VERY DISTURBING. People need to do something about this place / these places, where ever these places are.
An abortion is one thing, to do this, and stockpile the bodies... the girls I assume are unaware. Sickening. Comments.... ? hunkahunka... what do you think? Modern day canabilism? 'They' steal from the morgue. Is this another 'set up' a place to access....? Every day in America, 1,106 teens abort their child. 'Modern' contraception?
at 55 minutes through to the end are the very upsetting images.


brown.

[americana]

Hi, Brown.

I notice that in your post 1051 (fantastic post) you have a bunch of pix of Anne Geddes baby photos/ dolls, etc.

Previously, I had posted a photo of by her with 2 babies with butterflies on their backs. This was such a disturbing, highly symbolic photo.

I have always found her photos to be very disquieting. http://www.lovemarks.com/media/image/anne_geddes_html.jpg



Never really thought about it or even begun to understand why until now.

Any more thoughts on the particular pictures you posted? Are these "triggers" or is there something else going on?

Thanks!

[soulja]

from Madonnas 'bad Girl' video
http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/000/502/0000050245_350.jpg
mask, silence trigger, spiral

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Jesuspricesupa.jpg

Wyclef Jean
http://images-cdn01.associatedcontent.com/image/A1723/172344/300_172344.jpg
mask,Carnival, memoirs or memories ?

this one's also interesting imo
http://www.netweed.com/prohiphop/graf/carnivaliialternate.jpg
walking down the yellow brick road ? programmer in the back overwatching him ? also Wyclef does not look in the direction he's heading because he doesn't need to, he's programmed ;)
follow the yellow brick road means follow the programming/path led out to you by the handler

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/images/amg_covers/200/dre200/e242/e2423071pvt.jpg
angel wings ? also note the reversed cross on the right.

http://www.netweed.com/prohiphop/graf/hiphopprojectposter.jpg
all blue (may be significant if MK context) one eye, Hip Hop ''Project''

[brown velvet]

Hi, Brown.

I notice that in your post 1051 (fantastic post) you have a bunch of pix of Anne Geddes baby photos/ dolls, etc.

Previously, I had posted a photo of by her with 2 babies with butterflies on their backs. This was such a disturbing, highly symbolic photo.

I have always found her photos to be very disquieting. http://www.lovemarks.com/media/image/anne_geddes_html.jpg

Never really thought about it or even begun to understand why until now.

Any more thoughts on the particular pictures you posted? Are these "triggers" or is there something else going on?

Thanks!

Hi Americana :)

glad you liked my post, upsetting subject as it is. :(

I saw your anne geddes post in the thread, decided not to use that one, - there is a whole set of butterfly ones here (http://www.searchamateur.com/Butterfly/butterflies.jpg)... This is the small version http://www.searchamateur.com/Butterfly/butterflies.jpg


http://www.annegeddes.com/shop/images/freemailimages/products/90916256/90916256_det_01.jpg

I have many opinions on everything I post. :rolleyes:
I feel a great depth of pity for the likes of Anne Geddes, she is a true inspiration, utmost care to nuture and protect the innocence of childhood. Her images, as I am positive you are aware, are everywhere. Enter the 'ones who just don't care', if you have been following this thread, you can see, in several of the posts the never ending volume of butterflies and candy, silence triggers and disconnection, these people need images to use and abuse, in the most despicable and of course (as a balance) a +tiv way, the positive is only a positive because to use the images as a -tiv, there needs to have been a +tiv, rather like they only ever happen to tell the truth if it in someway benefits the 'final outcome'.
The images are definitely used as a trigger, of course, they will only trigger the people who have had the images mis-used against them. I would imagine Anne Geddes would be horrified to know just what evilness can be done by using her beautiful images.

Trying to keep it brief, the whole topic is absolutely huge. Hope this helps, if not, let me know,


brown.

[hunkahunka]

hunkahunka... what do you think? Modern day canabilism? 'They' steal from the morgue. Is this another 'set up' a place to access....? Every day in America, 1,106 teens abort their child. 'Modern' contraception?
at 55 minutes through to the end are the very upsetting images


brown.



I have wondered what is really done with all the 'fetal tissue' for a long time.
There was this incident of a Hare Krishna abortionist in Kansas City who was caught eating all of the fetuses.(he kept some in the fridge in styrofoam cups for lunch at work, and took the rest home in garbage bags)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a300/tescosuicide/ALa2/krishna_rajanna.jpg
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/rajanna%20frig2.jpg

story:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44777

http://www.prolifeamerica.com/ktml2/images/uploads/rajanna_bath_sterilization-thumb.jpg

[rixxmixxhell]

Has manequines got something like trigger to them, like in Silent Hill??? The one that bleeds??
Rick

[hunkahunka]

sorry if this is a bit off the flow of the thread

but i was talking to my friend trying to wake him up a bit and thought i'd talk of things he's interested in so that he'd actually listen and i mentioned cobain being murdered by the CIA. We spoke a bit about MKultra and how alot of the programming starts to break down on some around age 30. Then he mentioned "the 27 club"..... i was like 'wha!?'

apparently there are alot of celebrities that have been killed or commited 'suicide' at the age of 27 is what he told me and his old flat mate, who was into Cobain in a big way, wanted to kill himself when he's 27 so he can be in that club :confused:

just thought i'd ask have you heard of the '27 club' or this theory and is it related to mind controled slaves that are killed before they tell of any secrets?

i told him i'd get back to him on that :P he also wants to know of symbolism of Topman lol (he's a bit random), i mentioned i'll find out who owns topshop and let him know so if anyone happens to know which group or conglomerate owns them i could take it from there :D

welcome to the thread, and that was a perceptive observation of yours. What I find is that the litmus test for 'truth' is that it tends to be viral like that.
You pick up one piece of the puzzle, and suddenly another piece fits properly, and, surprise ,other pieces can start finding a spot. That is what makes this so fascinating. I hope you keep helping us figure this one out.

[hunkahunka]

those eyes..... How old? :(

Hi,

yep, I did, found these too, here (http://flickr.com/photos/gerryvisco/sets/72157604086627593/) .....


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/18%2008%2008%20she%20he/180808LadyJayeBreyerP-Orridge.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/18%2008%2008%20she%20he/180808LadyJayeBreyerP-Orridge02.jpg

I don't know what the 'jesus' image is, in the interview s/he (Genesis Breyer P-Orridge) says something about the father banning a beard,..... :confused: most odd. Also the image with the implants, there seems to be some kind of 'drain' am wondering if that is what 'jesus' is holding...


brown.

brown,
in this thread posted by Rixxmixxhell:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31382

D. Histamines
Histamine is a chemical (a particular molecule) which the body uses to defend against alien cells. It also has the ability to lower blood pressure and to flare up the skin. The auditory sense can effect histamine production via programming.

Histamine is a molecule which is part of the immune system. Changes in histamine levels effect moles. It effects skin changes in scars. This is how the abusers can magically make scars appear and disappear, which makes the programming seem even more real to alters. The abusers like to create invisible scars that form patterns and pictures.

The most popular is the Baphomet head (which stands for Satan). Upon command they can trigger the skin to make these scars visible. If one pricks someone’s skin with a needle having histamine on the tip, it will cause the skin to flare up red. Biofeedback has allowed people to mentally talk to their skin. Hypnosis has controlled people’s immune system. States of mind effect the immune system. Somehow a combination of these is used to allow the handler upon command to trigger the correct state of mind within the victim to increase histamine production within the skin area.

The bone marrow of the body produces stem cells. The stem cells are capable of growing into many different types of cells. First the stem cells grow into some basic different cells and those in turn grow some more and further differentiate. For instance, a stem cell can become a myeloid, which can become a polymorpho nuclear granulocyte which in turn can become a basophil or mast cell. Both basophils and mast cells are leukocytes and they are part of the body’s immune system. Both basophils and mast cells are carriers of histamine.

Histamine does several things in the body. Histamine causes dilation of blood vessels, and it allows blood vessels to become permeable (leaky so to speak) which allows other chemicals and fluid to go through the blood vessels into the area between cells and tissues. All CNS (Central Nervous System) cells of the body have receptors that the histamine can attach itself to like a ship docking. When cells are damaged, or alien cells enter the body, the basophils and mast cells release their histamine.

For the body to have more histamine, it must increase the number of basophils and mast cells. This can be accomplished by changing the ratio of stem cells that develop into other types of cells. The core of the histamine molecule is an ethylamine. Antihistamines are molecules that resemble histamines enough that they can attach themselves to the histamine receptors on regular cells and prevent the histamine molecules from attaching. If the histamine molecules don’t attach, the body disposes of them. The point being that histamine remains in the skin only so long before the body disposes of it. Histamine levels in the body can raise IF the cells which carry the histamine are increased.

This is the Structure of a Histamine Molecule:
It is believed that breast implants have some kind of effect on raising histamine production levels in the body. Whether these breast implants are identical to what all breast implants are, or whether they have something special to agitate the body into higher immune cells’ production of the mast cell & basophils type is not known. However, there seems to be some relationship between the Network’s need to raise histamine production in their slaves, and the breast implants that they are putting in them. Putting the pieces together leads one to believe that the implants agitate the body’s immune system into raising the level of its histamine carrying cells.
A number of women who have gotten implants speak about an increase in allergies. The allergic reaction is caused by high levels of histamine. Whether this happens to some or many is not known at the time this is written.

I did a google image search to find some of these baphomet scars
but did not have much luck, btw

[brown velvet]

brown,
in this thread posted by Rixxmixxhell:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31382

hi hunkahunka,

the link is pure Fritzmeister http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/f/faint.gif :)

you start to really understand it, after the tenth reading, or is that 100th? Ever fascinating, and deeply informational, the man has helped me beyond my expectations.
So do you mean that the 'jesus' imagery is one of him controlling the histamine? In my experiences the histamine appearances are taught very early on, and are used to 'show off' (handler) or cause the victim sheer terror, I can't quite get my head around the volumes that seem to be implied....


brown.

[hunkahunka]

hi hunkahunka,
So do you mean that the 'jesus' imagery is one of him controlling the histamine? In my experiences the histamine appearances are taught very early on, and are used to 'show off' (handler) or cause the victim sheer terror, I can't quite get my head around the volumes that seem to be implied....
brown.

could it be a reference to drinking the communion wine, blood of jesus? is histamine being added
to communal drinks in rituals? this would trigger the appearance of the scars in rituals, among 'projects', enabling vulnerability to 'angel' programming. ?? just speculation here, I have no
qualifications as any authority on this stuff

I found this pic:
http://plasticsergeant.com/uploads/Rs/oT/RsoTwh1co_tqYYoHv0N8iA/bodymodifications43.jpg

[hunkahunka]

check this out, this guy was a Hells Angel who is wanted in the torture and murder of a woman in Arizona. The only reason he was caught is because the FBI had planted a mercenary informant in their group.


http://www.usmarshals.gov/investigations/most_wanted/eischeid/tattoo_chest.jpg

http://www.azalmanac.com/images/eischeiddl2003.jpg

http://www.canada.com/calgary/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=9df58b69-887a-4147-b23f-b0016e063c00

Arizona Hells Angel wanted in torture-murder could be hiding out in Canada

Bruce Owen , Winnipeg Free Press
Published: Tuesday, July 10, 2007

WINNIPEG -- An Arizona stockbroker-turned Hells Angel who is wanted in the 2001 torture-murder of a 44-year-old mother of six may be hiding in Canada with the help of fellow Hells Angels, the United States Marshals Service says.

Paul Merle Eischeid crossed into Canada sometime after 2003, and the Marshals Service said it believes he has been sheltered by Hells Angels chapters across Canada -- including Vancouver, Calgary and Winnipeg, said Phoenix Deputy U.S. Marshal Eric Brown.

It's also possible Eischeid has left Canada to escape the manhunt, he added. An arrest warrant was issued by Canadian Immigration Services for illegal entry.

The muscular, heavily tattooed Eischeid was recently added to the Marshals' Most-Wanted list of Top 15 fugitives and has appeared on the popular America's Most Wanted television show.

In 2001, police say he worked by day as a stockbroker in Phoenix, Ariz., and at night he hung out at the gang's clubhouse - living as an outlaw biker.

In October 2001, Eischeid was at the Mesa Hells Angels clubhouse when Cynthia Garcia joined them. A drunk Garcia began "mouthing off" to some of the Hells Angels. They told her to keep quiet, but she didn't.

A confidential informant told police that he, Eischeid and another biker began beating and kicking Garcia until she was bleeding and unconscious.

Police believe she was thrown into a car trunk and driven to the desert, where she was murdered.

Eischeid was arrested in 2003 as part of an undercover operation against Arizona bikers. Though he was charged with Garcia's murder, a judge released him on bail because he was not viewed as a flight risk.

The next day, Eischeid cut off his court-ordered monitoring anklet and fled.

Authorities say the former Charles Schwab stockbroker is very intelligent and familiar with computers. He loves motorcycles and tattoos and has close friends who are tattoo artists.

Eischeid is Caucasian, 5' 7" tall, with blue eyes and brown hair. His last name is tattooed on his stomach, and many full-colour tattoos cover his arms, chest and back.

He weighs 190 pounds, may wear glasses and sometimes sports a goatee.

The U.S. Marshals Service is offering a $25,000 US reward for information leading to his capture. Anyone with information is asked to call the marshals at 1-800-336-0102; those with information may remain anonymous.

she was murdered by satanists, nearly decapitated,
and we are supposed to believe that it is just coincidence that her body was found on Halloween after disappearing for a week?

We are supposed to blindly believe that this informant is telling the truth?

I have a feeling this woman may have been used in something over there near Tuscon, where it is said that trauma based mk programming takes place in the desert near there.
Mesa is not far from Tuscon.

Also, this Eischeid strikes me as an odd character. He is a stockbroker by day, and a drunken rapist barbarian biker by night. Sounds like a jekyl/hyde alter ego to me.
A multiple.

[soulja]

Also, this Eischeid strikes me as an odd character. He is a stockbroker by day, and a drunken rapist barbarian biker by night. Sounds like a jekyl/hyde alter ego to me.

A multiple.

yup sounds like a multiple if you ask me. hunka have you studied Svalis information ?
she claims to have been a Illuminati programmer before she broke her own programming and left the group.

here's some interesting part of her info in light of the Eischeid personality.


If you met them in person, you would probably instantly like any of these intelligent, verbal, likeable, even charismatic people. This is their greatest cover, since we often expect great evil to "appear" evil, led by media portrayals of evil as causing changes in the face and demeanor of people, or marking them like the biblical Cain. None of the Illuminists that I have known, had unkind, or evil appearing, persona in their daytime lives, although some were dysfunctional, such as being alcoholics. The dissociation that drives the Illuminists is their greatest cover for being undetected at this time. Many, if not most, of these people are completely unaware of the great evil that they are involved in, during the night.
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/svali_speaks.htm

[rixxmixxhell]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33460

Thought you might like to read this post, i feel would be related to this reserch.

I don't think the testers would be aware of it, so mind controll would have to be deployed. ??

Rick

[brown velvet]

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/15%2008%2008%20mimzy/AnneGeddes_Wallpaper1280_1621.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/15%2008%2008%20mimzy/lotsofmimzys.jpg
Anyone help me with this shape?
I know I have seen it as a small 'soft / plush toy' (I think) in a film, was wondering if anyone can find the film. I got reminded about it when hunkahunka sent me the huge starfish shape.
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/15%2008%2008%20mimzy/synapse003.jpg
brown.

the last mimsy dvd cover
http://songphon.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/movie_mimzy.jpg

http://www.tonnerdoll.com/2007Images/TONNER%202007/2007home.mimzy.jpg

mimzy in a box
http://www.tonnerdoll.com/2007Images/TONNER%202007/Mimzy/DSC_0090.jpg

Emma and Mimzy
http://www.tonnerdoll.com/2007Images/TONNER%202007/Mimzy/MZ1.jpg

mimzy
http://www.tonnerdoll.com/2007Images/TONNER%202007/Mimzy/MZ3.jpg

last Mimzy puzzle book
http://www.darkhorizons.com/2007/mimzy/mimzy6.jpg


bbc image with 'deleted' spiral
site (http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2007/08/13/the_last_mimzy_2007_dvd_review.shtml)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2007/08/13/images/the_last_mimzy_2007_dvd_review_screengrab.jpg


mimzy wallpaper
http://www.wall001.com/film/2007_The_Last_Mimzy_Wallpaper/mxxx01/The_Last_Mimzy_Wallpaper_2_1024.jpg


dismembered mimzy
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs16/300W/i/2007/126/e/f/the_last_mimzy_II_by_azrael667.jpg

art
http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs14/300W/f/2007/080/e/3/The_Last_Mimzy_by_i_am_a_little_rose.png

destroyed and mended
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/126/f/6/The_last_Mimzy___stuffed__by_EnigmaticSerendipity. jpg

white rabbit
http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs22/300W/i/2007/317/9/a/The_White_Rabbit_by_Sash_kash.jpg

found these.... should have gone on my original post -sorry :rolleyes:


brown.

[americana]

Emma and Mimzy
http://www.tonnerdoll.com/2007Images/TONNER%202007/Mimzy/MZ1.jpg


brown.


Totally unaware of this movie's content before your posts.

Anyhoo, just looking at the doll, I was reminded of the American Girl dolls. Even looked on their site to see if it was one of those . . . but no, another manufacturer.

Tonner Dolls . . . a VERY interesting company! http://www.tonnerdoll.com/mimzy.htmMostly dolls for "big girls", I'd say, dolls you don't play with . . . . per se.

What's up with the Emma doll and the accompanying Mimzy - - given that, according to the website, in the story and movie the kids find: strange devices they think are toys. As the children play with these “toys,” they begin to display higher and higher intelligence levels.

Strange devices.
They think are toys.

Hmmmm.


http://www.tonnerdoll.com/2007Images/TONNER%202007/2007home.mimzy.jpg

Weird. Look at those eyes. From the website: Emma is 18” tall and features the Katie™ head sculpt by renowned artist, Ann Timmerman, Emma is jointed - made from high quality vinyl, and she has rooted saran hair and sweet, inset eyes full of expression; a miniature Mimzy rabbit is included with Emma. I'd say her eyes are expressionless. What a face.

[hunkahunka]

yup sounds like a multiple if you ask me. hunka have you studied Svalis information ?
she claims to have been a Illuminati programmer before she broke her own programming and left the group.

here's some interesting part of her info in light of the Eischeid personality.

So if Eischeid is a multiple, is that why they call them Angels?


http://www.pewtermaster.com/pic/Angel%20on%20Motorcycle.JPG

[hunkahunka]

http://www.waykoolrecords.com/pics/Misc/ANGEL2.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb56/lkuchenbecker/BikerAngel.gif

http://images.elfwood.com/art/s/a/sammyd/biker_chick_2.jpg

http://picrip4.com/images/biker/NeverRidedFasterAsphaltAngel.gif

http://images.elfwood.com/art/o/v/oveja/angel_biker_jpeg.jpeg

http://www.myspacegraphicsandanimations.com/images/motorcycle_graphic_cool.jpg

http://pinsaver.com/cart/images/large/alphaangel.jpg

http://dreamontoyz.com/sitebuilder/images/bbangel6-250x200.jpg

http://www.bikernewsonline.com/uploaded_images/angels-of-death-723225.jpg

[hunkahunka]

Listen to an mp3 interview of the author of the following book, Walter Bowart here:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1734238971cbfb18/

http://www.insteadof.com/images/Bowart.jpg

http://www.tenntimes.org/stories/mind-control/images/OpMindControl.JPG

Operation Mind Control, by Walter Bowart

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jimthing/control.gif

[soulja]

found this post from kweli in the symbolism section,

Amy Winehouse has found inspiration for her new album from the classic movie the Wizard of Oz.

The troubled singer is working on the follow up to her Grammy award winning album Back to Black and has been inspired by the 1939 Judy Garland film.

Along with the title theme, famous songs from the musical include Over the Rainbow, composed by Harold Arlen.

Winehouse's new songs will reportedly include samples from the original tracks.

In the surreal film Dorothy is swept away to a magical land in a tornado and embarks on a quest to see the Wizard who can help her return home.

Winehouse has been slow to create the third album because of her ongoing battles with drugs.

I bet she has.. :rolleyes: Source:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2577722/Amy-Winehouses-new-album-inspired-by-Wizard-of-Oz.html


WIZARD OF OZ and the ILLUMINATI MIND CONTROL

The history behind the Wizard of Oz programming is interesting. It suggests that the Wizard of Oz has had an important part in the occult world all along. One of the secrets of the Mystery Religions, especially the Egyptian Isis mystery religion was the ability to use drugs and torture to create multiple personalities. The word Oz is known to have been used by its author as an abbreviation for Osirus.


http://www.apfn.org/apfn/oz.htm

http://eyeq.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/amy-winehouse-001.jpg

[soulja]

Marilyn Manson's ''art''
http://marilynmansonartworkonline.com/

has MK growing up/lifestyle written all over it.

[soulja]

this one is just plain creepy
http://www.danceinmyblood.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/brand-new-the-devil-and-god-raging-inside-of-me-cover-album-art.jpg
album name : The Devil and God Are Raging Inside of Me

[hunkahunka]

http://www.eroticexcursions.net/EENetPublications.htm

http://www.a1adultebooks.com/bookimages/438fs.jpg

SYNOPSIS

The highly select OSIRIS Society existed to provide its wealthy and powerful members with every forbidden pleasure. They had no trouble making innocent young women disappear into a secret world of depravity and sexual bondage. OSIRIS routinely used coercion, torture and even death in pursuit of its ends and then they abducted Monique. Not for the squeamish.

http://www.a1adultebooks.com/bookimages/445fs.jpg

SYNOPSIS

The second volume of The OSIRIS Society series follows the captive Monique as she makes her way past the ordeals of the novice. She achieves the status of Mistress and ultimately becomes a Graduate. Upon her return to the outside world, she is intended to exist as just another compliant OSIRIS asset until she outlives her usefulness.

*Note the cross through the letter O in Osiris

http://www.a1adultebooks.com/bookimages/465fs.jpg

SYNOPSIS

In this final volume of the OSIRIS trilogy, the slave Monique attempts to bring down the empire of sex, torture and degradation that has victimized so many innocent women. She knows the stakes...success or a death too horrible to imagine!

from the same site:

http://www.a1adultebooks.com/bookimages/1017fs.jpg


I have seen that same crossed letter O symbol in the word Osiris in a few places:

http://www.hollywood-house-of-horror.com/Curse%20of%20the%20Zodiac/CofZodiac.jpg

http://www.tempi-duri.it/recensioni/Ozzy%20Osbourne%20-%20Under%20Cover%20-%20Front.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/zohanposter.jpg

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4982/themanintheironmaskfn4.jpg

[soulja]

nice find that Osiris Society.

the Illumies just love to rub their lifestyle in our faces by the use of ''fiction''

[brown velvet]

Totally unaware of this movie's content before your posts.

Anyhoo, just looking at the doll, I was reminded of the American Girl dolls. Even looked on their site to see if it was one of those . . . but no, another manufacturer.

Tonner Dolls . . . a VERY interesting company! http://www.tonnerdoll.com/mimzy.htmMostly dolls for "big girls", I'd say, dolls you don't play with . . . . per se.

What's up with the Emma doll and the accompanying Mimzy - - given that, according to the website, in the story and movie the kids find: strange devices they think are toys. As the children play with these “toys,” they begin to display higher and higher intelligence levels.

Strange devices.
They think are toys.

Hmmmm.


http://www.tonnerdoll.com/2007Images/TONNER%202007/2007home.mimzy.jpg

Weird. Look at those eyes. From the website: I'd say her eyes are expressionless. What a face.


Hi :D

angelicdreamz (http://www.angelicdreamz.com/store/tiny_kitty_collier.html)

Now featuring Robert Tonner (http://www.tonnerdoll.com/abouttonner.htm) Fashion dolls, Exclusive Doll, Tyler Wentworth, American Model, Brenda Starr, Kit, House of Wentworth, Sydney Chase, Mary Engelbreit, Betsy McCall, Wizard of Oz (http://www.angelicdreamz.com/store/tonner_wizard_of_oz.html), Cinderella, The Hardy Boys, Harry Potter, Wonder Woman, Super Girl, The Last Mimzy, Luna and the Little Martians, Kitty Collier, NYC Ballet, Dream Girls, Alice in Wonderland, Memoirs of a Geisha, Doll Outfits, Marley Wentworth, Tonner Boutique, Tonner Accessories, Patsy, Tonner Basic Dolls.

The Wiz of Oz link will take you to the Tonner page of all the characters, the Perfume Lady is one of them, I can't find a reference too her atm, anyone know who she is...?

?

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/perfumeladyWizofOz.jpg






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The French scent called Secretions Magnifiques is said to produce a “pinnacle of sensual pleasure”.

Another brand smells of cigarettes. A store spokesman said: “Niche fragrances do very well.”

Etat Libre d'Orange
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http://shop.harveynichols.com/pws/images/catalogue/products/230192/beautyxlarge/230192_1.jpg

brown.

[soulja]

this one is also about illuminati cult lifestyle wich goes hand in hand with being a multiple.
http://www.pillboxhat.com/images/joker.jpg
note it's dark, misty and full moon in short it's night. he wears a mask wich could be a different personality/alter reference or hinting at participation in rituals where they often wear masks. probably both.

here some more from Svali
An Overview of Some Basic Types of Programming

In the first few chapters, I defined Illuminism, its reach, and some of the philosophy, money making enterprises, and agendas that help explain WHY they program people. I believe that these are important to understand, as a preface to the next few chapters. Why? The programming techniques that I will describe take an incredible amount of effort, time, dedication, and planning on the part of the cult to place in the individual. Only a very motivated group of people would spend the time it takes to do this. These chapters are very hard for me to write, as an individual, since my role in the cult was that of a programmer. So, the very techniques you will be reading about were often those that I used to place programming in individuals that I worked with. I no longer do these things, nor do I espouse doing them; the reason I am writing this book is that I believe that therapists who work with DID, as well as survivors, deserve to know WHAT is done to people, HOW it is done, as well as be given some ideas on how to undo the programming that the cult places in people.

First, I would like to address unintentional programming versus intentional programming. This is also known as the environmental milieu the child is raised in. The programming of a generational Illuminati infant often begins before its birth (this will be addressed later) but once it is born, the very environment the infant is raised in becomes a form of programming. Often, the infant is raised in a family environment that combines daytime abandonment with dysfunction in the parental figures. The infant soon learns that the nighttime, and cult activities, are the truly important ones. The infant may be deprived of attention, or even abused, in the daytime; and is only treated as special, or "seen" by the parent, in the cult setting. This can lead to very young alters around the core or core splits, who feel "invisible", abandoned, rejected, unworthy of love or attention, or that they don't even exist, unless they are doing a job for their "family".

Another milieu and conditioning process the infant must face is that the adults around him/her are INCONSISTENT, since the adults in a generational cult family are almost always also multiple, or DID. This sets up a reality for the infant/toddler that the parents act one way at home; an entirely different way at cult gatherings; and yet a different way in normal society.

Since these are the infant's earliest experiences of adults and adult behaviors, it has no choice but to accept this reality that human beings act in shockingly different ways in different settings. While unintentional, this sets the infant up for later dissociation, in mimicry of the adults around it.

watch out for phrases like ''we own the night'' ''night breed'' ''after sunset'' and similar wordings.
they have doublemeanings and it doesn't necessarily matter to wich movie, album, or every other 'medium' they are attached too.
it's the message/trigger that counts.

not related to this but also one of those phrases is ''we are everywhere''
http://images.nearbynow.com/productimages/hottopic/d3/000bf1d3_md.jpg
trigger/reminder imo like don't speak/silence trigger

[hunkahunka]

omg, this video just about says it all (you have got to see this)

Laura Brannigan hit song 'Self Control'

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFcQjIFbHpM&feature=related


She died at age 47.


Death

Branigan died at her home on Long Island, New York, on August 26, 2004. Her death was attributed to a previously undiagnosed brain aneurysm.

A common location of cerebral aneurysms is on the arteries at the base of the brain, known as the Circle of Willis. Approximately 85% of cerebral aneurysms develop in the anterior part of the Circle of Willis, and involve the internal carotid arteries and their major branches that supply the anterior and middle sections of the brain.).

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/313E5BXQAYL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
one eye

http://m80.clix.pt/upload/L/Laura%20Branigan%20anos%2080.jpg
no hands, black robe

http://www.clipov.net/pic/laura_branigan+%5Bself_control%5D+1984+5-04+vh1+so80s.jpg
mirror

http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/000/467/0000046714_350.jpg
one eye, five

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_XzbYJQRS70o/R7WvtOOFs2I/AAAAAAAABwI/srWzWPceLxQ/789245.jpg
shattered mind

http://image.maniadb.com/images/album/177/177130_1_f.jpg
one eye, tied wrist, and 'touch' with severed finger?

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/2f/88/b7a9228348a0894ec87ee010.L.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/bradinhou/Solitaire12.jpg
silence

[soulja]

The Wiz of Oz link will take you to the Tonner page of all the characters, the Perfume Lady is one of them, I can't find a reference too her atm, anyone know who she is...?

?

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/perfumeladyWizofOz.jpg


perfume lady reminds me at that Britney perfume advert.
http://www.celebnewswire.com/Britney_Spears_Believe.jpg
emerald, caged birds. also maybe nothing but note how the i is in a different colour. i or EYE it also serves as a sort of cutting line to put emphasis on the word 'eve'.
who was a creation of the ''gods''

but back to the cage, with a high profile MK person like Britney it's of course a golden cage. like Gwen Stefani's
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/Gwen_Stefani_-_The_Sweet_Escape.jpg
still a cage tho..

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/33/2006/11/gwenew.jpg

http://stylefrizz.com/img/gwen-stefani-v-magazine-cover.jpg

in the looking glass world she's a pirate
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007LEZF8.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Pirates were higly educated unofficial bloodliners send out on sea to colonize, kill, plunder and do all the things the Kings and Queens wouldn't like themselves to be openly seen as doing. they were infact Agents, also the Knights Templar fleet used the Skull&Bones on their flags. so did the Virginia company.

anyway, that whole pirate/skull&bones symbolism is used quiet alot in popular culture, especially youth culture. it can be used as both, symbolizing Brotherhood affiliation and/or bloodline.
knights templar were very much a bloodline thing, not talking bout the footsoldiers level of course.
and as we know things only change on the surface when it comes to the brotherhood.
all that talk was really just to explain why Gwen's album cover is imo symbolic for MK (mirror) and her being bloodline (pirate theme, roses)

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[soulja]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/ce/UFOStrangersInTheNightAlbumCover.jpg/200px-UFOStrangersInTheNightAlbumCover.jpg
''Strangers in the Night'' different alters at night? the whole rainbow colour theme and segmented faces would suggest so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strangers_in_the_Night_(UFO_album)

[amethyst]

Totally unaware of this movie's content before your posts.

Anyhoo, just looking at the doll, I was reminded of the American Girl dolls. Even looked on their site to see if it was one of those . . . but no, another manufacturer.

Tonner Dolls . . . a VERY interesting company! http://www.tonnerdoll.com/mimzy.htmMostly dolls for "big girls", I'd say, dolls you don't play with . . . . per se.

What's up with the Emma doll and the accompanying Mimzy - - given that, according to the website, in the story and movie the kids find: strange devices they think are toys. As the children play with these “toys,” they begin to display higher and higher intelligence levels.

Strange devices.
They think are toys.

Hmmmm.


http://www.tonnerdoll.com/2007Images/TONNER%202007/2007home.mimzy.jpg

Weird. Look at those eyes. From the website: I'd say her eyes are expressionless. What a face.

These posts about "dolls"....I never really gave it much thought, but this post reminded me of some other "dolls" I had seen...and it's apparently BIG business.......I was searching on this subject, and look where it leads me?....to all these "butterfly" dolls, created by none other than Marie Osmond.

Then I recall, she was mentioned by Fritz Springmeier in his books

Here she is with a butterfly shirt:

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And here are some of her dolls. She even has a collection entitled "Becoming Butterflies"

This one is called "Serenity"

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8397/butterfly20serenityda7.jpg

This one is called "Confidence"

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"Reverie"
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"Tutti" "Chasing Butterflies"[

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3944/tuttiqk6.jpg

One of her "Fairy" dolls:
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These are just a few. She has a ton of all kinds of dolls:


On this page, she looks like she's holding an "Alice in Wonderland" type of Doll

http://www.mariedolls.net/paula06.htm


http://www.marieosmond.com/Dolls/tabid/74/Default.aspx


* I'll never look at "dolls" the same way again!*
Kinda gives me the creeps!

[soulja]

* I'll never look at "dolls" the same way again!*
Kinda gives me the creeps!

kinda proving the statement you made earlier in the thread about the illumies taking perfectly innocent things and give them a twisted, evil meaning. :)

Just look at us. Everything is backwards; upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality.

[soulja]

some indie fashion label
http://sfindiefashion.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/marisposa-baby-logo.JPG

http://www.marghanita.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/jasmine-the-butterfly-girl.jpg
Jasmine is a butterfly girl, half human, half bug, so she’s just like you only she can fly and talk to the animals of the forest. Jasmine and all her
Butterfly friends are the protectors of nature. But Jasmine, is growing concerned. So much damage is being caused to Mother Nature that the girls are working extra hard to keep it safe, but they need help…

Who will they choose?
Join Jasmine on a magical flight to find the girl who can help the Butterfly Girls.

Book Launches in UK at the Edinburgh Book Festival in August Marghanita will be book signing at the Scottish Book Trust ‘Butterfly Girl Event’ on 10th August and at the Glasgow Botanic Gardens ‘Butterfly Girl Event’ on 13th August.
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[soulja]

I have seen that same crossed letter O symbol in the word Osiris in a few places:[/B]

http://www.hollywood-house-of-horror.com/Curse%20of%20the%20Zodiac/CofZodiac.jpg



the red eye, danger, badass killer alter.
http://upcomingdiscs.com/ecs_covers/the-terminator-blu-ray-large.jpg

[brown velvet]

could it be a reference to drinking the communion wine, blood of jesus? is histamine being added
to communal drinks in rituals? this would trigger the appearance of the scars in rituals, among 'projects', enabling vulnerability to 'angel' programming. ?? just speculation here, I have no
qualifications as any authority on this stuff

I found this pic:
http://plasticsergeant.com/uploads/Rs/oT/RsoTwh1co_tqYYoHv0N8iA/bodymodifications43.jpg

Hi

this post is to try and explain to people who are a bit confused about the histamine subject. I have only my opinions to offer, the 'what if's...'

All the images on this post except the one in the quote, of the pentagram, and the one at the end, are naturally occuring disorders. The 'ones who don't care' will use anything they can to trick and overwhelm and constantly keep MC victims off balance. Like when the priests / important people thousands of years ago would predict that the sun would come up in the morning, like they had anything to do with it, except of course their whole village thought they did. So a natural reaction, eg, a skin disorder or stinging nettles, can be completly abused (they at least remain consistant in their on going evilness) to scare / impress / appear 'magical' especially to a young confused, drugged, scared child. The power shift of course, is immediate, the child will never question this all powerful person who can cause the sun to be prompt in the morning, or cause a pattern to form on the childs body. It is much easier to ask 'why not?' than ask 'why'.
In my opinion, whatever it is that is done, is given to someone under hypnosis, if the victim is DID then one person in the system will 'carry' the instruction to obey whilst someone else is holding the body, the one holding the body will have no idea what is happening, and will only know that the powerful adult (possibly) next to them has caused (triggered) the reaction, it will be beyond their limits of comprehension. And then just imagine the fear. Put that on show on a Friday night down the pub, people will laugh and be confused. Now make them 6 years old and just take on board the horror that can be caused as you watch your body make a word / picture / pattern / shape. Scary? Yeah, very.

The patterns are not scars, as the 'sting' from nettles is not a scar, they are the same thing, an allergic reaction to....... hypnosis / power of suggestion? An actual allergic reaction 'locked in' whilst hypnotised? I don't know.

I do know there is a lot of info here, make a brew / pour a beer, have a good old read :)
I do not know what 'angel programming' is.

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Controlling (http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula3chap.shtml) Histamine Production
The control of histamine production is an important secret ingredient to the Monarch Mind Control. The breast implants placed into women help stimulate histamine production, which is used in conjunction with drug-assisted programming (See Chapter 8.)

Fritz (http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula8chap.shtml)'s chapter 8

D. HISTAMINES
Histamine is a chemical (a particular molecule) which the body uses to defend against alien cells. It also has the ability to lower blood pressure and to flare up the skin.
The auditory (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/auditory) sense can effect histamine production via programming. Histamine is a molecule which is part of the immune system. Changes in histamine levels effect moles. It effects skin changes in scars. This is how the abusers can magically make scars appear and disappear, which makes the programming seem even more real to alters. The abusers like to create invisible scars that form patterns and pictures. The most popular is the Baphomet head (which stands for Satan). Upon command they can trigger the skin to make these scars visible. If one pricks someone’s skin with a needle having histamine on the tip, it will cause the skin to flare up red. Biofeedback has allowed people to mentally talk to their skin. Hypnosis has controlled people’s immune system. States of mind effect the immune system. Somehow a combination of these is used to allow the handler upon command to trigger the correct state of mind within the victim to increase histamine production within the skin area.
The bone marrow of the body produces stem cells. The stem cells are capable of growing into many different types of cells. First, the stem cells grow into some basic different cells and those in turn grow some more and further differentiate. For instance, a stem cell can become a myeloid, which can become a polymorpho nuclear granulocyte which in turn can become a basophil or mast cell. Both basophils and mast cells are leukocytes and they are part of the body’s immune system. Both basophils and mast cells are carriers of histamine. Histamine does several things in the body. Histamine causes dilation of blood vessels, and it allows blood vessels to become permeable (leaky so to speak) which allows other chemicals and fluid to go through the blood vessels into the area between cells and tissues.
All CNS (Central Nervous System) cells of the body have receptors that the histamine can attach itself to like a ship docking. When cells are damaged, or alien cells enter the body, the basophils and mast cells release their histamine. For the body to have more histamine, it must increase the number of basophils and mast cells. This can be accomplished by changing the ratio of stem cells that develop into other types of cells. The core of the histamine molecule is an ethylamine. Antihistamines are molecules that resemble histamines enough that they can attach themselves to the histamine receptors on regular cells and prevent the histamine molecules from attaching. If the histamine molecules don’t attach, the body disposes of them. The point being that histamine remains in the skin only so long before the body disposes of it. Histamine levels in the body can raise IF the cells which carry the histamine are increased.
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THIS IS THE STRUCTURE OF A HISTAMINE MOLECULE
(Lost Picture)
It is believed that breast implants have some kind of effect on raising histamine production levels in the body. Whether these breast implants are identical to what all breast implants are, or whether they have something special to agitate the body into higher immune cells’ production of the mast cell & basophils type is not known. However, there seems to be some relationship between the Network’s need to raise histamine production in their slaves, and the breast implants that they are putting in them. Putting the pieces together leads one to believe that the implants agitate the body’s immune system into raising the level of its histamine carrying cells. A number of women who have gotten implants speak about an increase in allergies. The allergic reaction is caused by high levels of histamine. Whether this happens to some or many is not known at the time this is written.
The three big Illuminati chemical companies are I.G. Farben, DuPont, and Dow Chemical. Dow Chemical began research with implanting silicon in 1956. After 35 years of studies in which they implanted thousands of various animals with silicon, the company knew exactly what silicon would do in the human body. The FDA had public hearings in 1992 where internal documents of the Dow Chemical Co. were released which showed that the company knew all along that their breast implants were very dangerous, years before they put them on the market. There is an incredible search going on for an anti-silicon antibody so that they can clean up the mess they have created in millions of people who have silicon implants. The immediate chest wall and area around the breast implant gets highly agitated. The silicon leaks through the membrane, and then causes great difficulties in the body. Many of the female Monarch slaves have received breast implants.

Alice
Artist (http://wolffreeborn.deviantart.com/art/Alice-25833873)'s comments
cold ethyl, anyone?


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invisible (http://aetarianavenger.deviantart.com/art/Blacklight-Chameleon-Tattoo-19538647) tat's
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Hypnosis (http://archderm.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/136/3/393?ck=nck) in Dermatology

...THE HYPNOTIC phenomenon has been used since ancient times in the form of trance induction to assist healing. Each of us goes into spontaneous mild trances daily while engrossed in watching television or a movie, reading a book or magazine, or otherwise being absorbed in some activity or meditation. With proper training, an individual can intensify this trance state in himself or herself or in another individual, and use this heightened focus to induce mind-body interactions that help alleviate suffering or promote healing. The state of altered consciousness known as a "trance state" may be induced using guided imagery, relaxation, deep breathing, meditation techniques, self-hypnosis, or hypnosis-induction techniques. Some individuals are more highly hypnotizable than others, but most can obtain some benefit from hypnosis. In dermatologic practice, hypnosis may help reduce skin pain and pruritus, ameliorate psychosomatic aspects of skin diseases, and hasten the resolution of some skin diseases, including verruca vulgaris. Even suggestion, without formal trance induction, can be effective in some patients. Early articles on the use of suggestion to treat verrucae include those by Bloch1 and Sulzberger and Wolf.2 ...
...To what degree hypnosis can affect physiological factors such as blood flow and release of chemical mediators, as opposed to a purely psychological response, is often difficult to measure reliably. Nonetheless, many patients note subjective improvement of symptoms and, in some cases, objective reductions in the size, number, or intensity of skin lesions. The exact psychophysiologic mechanisms by which hypnosis induces improvement are not fully elucidated. Hypnosis is known to be able to regulate blood flow and other autonomic functions not usually under conscious control. The relaxation response that occurs with hypnosis also affects the neurohormonal systems that in turn, regulate many body functions (see the discussion and references in the remainder of this section)....
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An Unusual (An Unusual Case of Stigmatization) Case of Stigmatization
The possibility of a psychosomatic origin of stigmata is indicated by several
experiments demonstrating important influences on skin obtainable with hypnotic
suggestions. Classic and well controlled is the possibility of inducing
blisters in specified areas of the body (Pattie, 1941; Johnson & Barber, 1976;
Gauld, 1990). Localization, shape and dimensions of blisters as well as the intensity
of skin reactions around it could be more or less predetermined with
direct suggestions. Although blisters are lesions that are far from being true
stigmata, local autonomic activity giving rise to erythemas, edemas, ecchymosis,
weals or blisters in hypnotic experiments could be similar to that inducing
stigmatic lesions during ecstasy or whatever the state of consciousness could
be during which stigmata appear.
Other indications of a possible psychosomatic origin of stigmata derive
from cases of recurrence of bodily changes during recalled memory of physical
injury (Stevenson, 1997) or from experiments on hypnotic and conditioned
modulation of allergic skin response (Mason, 1960; Black et al., 1963; Smith
& McDaniel,1983).

... can disappear quickly without leaving any scars. Stigmata ... of the arms and legs, inducing the liberation of histamine in ... have made numerou...
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article (http://www.sanfranciscohypnotherapy.com/Allergies.htm)
Hypnosis for allergies?? I know what you're thinking.... allergies are completely physical, right? So how can a mental process help someone with allergies? Well this comes as a an almost unbelievable surprise to most people, as it did to me when I witnessed hypnosis allergy-removal for the first time. The technique that is used is actually a neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) technique, but most hypnotherapists integrate tools from NLP into their practice.

The premise. Allergies are a mistake of the immune system; that is, the immune system mistakenly recognizes a normally harmless substance to be an invading organism, and mounts an immunological response to it.

For example, there's nothing toxic about pollen from grass - i.e. it does not contain any substances that would make us ill, infect us with bacteria or viruses, or damage any of our organs or body systems. Yet somehow, many of us have bodies that incorrectly categorize pollen as toxic, and when we are exposed to it in the air, our mucous membranes become inflamed as white blood cells flood the area, and produce excess mucous to try to flush the "toxin" out. The symptoms are the same as if we were to have a bonafide bacterial or viral infection -- running nose, blocked sinuses, sore throat, etc. So the immune system is making a mistake.

The mystery of the mind-body connection. While neurologists, endocrinologists, physiologists and other scientists work on unravelling the mysteries of how the mind-body connection works, hypnotherapists and similar practitioners continue to develop techniques that allow us to harness the power of this connection in predictable ways, so that we can dependably utilize the mind to heal the body. So what we DO know that it DOES work—and in ways more powerful than we have thought in the past. Our brains and bodies have evolved over millions of years as an integrated system, so it only makes sense that our minds should be able direct processes in the body. Indeed, people adept at deep meditation have shown that they can change their heart rate and skin temperature merely by willing it while meditating. In states of meditation and self-hypnosis we strengthen the connection between the conscious and subconscious minds. Within these states of greater connection, we can consciously visualize the changes we want to achieve in our bodies. Since the subconscious communicates well using symbols and images, it receives the conscious direction and then somehow directs the body to make the appropriate alterations. It's that somehow that science is working on understanding.

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Article (http://www.bmezine.com/news/people/A10101/fabiola/index.html)
It is important to note that attitude affects healing. It has to do with the body/mind/soul connection and the energy raised during such an intense experience. Emotions can be see as measurable, physiological responses to certain situations. For example, the experience of fear stimulates, among other things, the adrenal glands to release hormones into the bloodstream. These hormones create all kinds of bodily responses to the situation, for example, fight or flight. Thoughts are energy. When thoughts accompany the bodily response and a trauma occurs, this can create a neural pathway or imprint wherein the thought becomes enmeshed with the response to create a body memory. (For more detailed information you can read the introductory chapters to Raven's online book). Your state of mind before, during AND after the experience affects how your body responds to the piercing. For example, Raven got pierced by someone whom she later felt betrayed by. Although her piercings were several years old and healed, they started to reject and get really infected -- the holes actually became ulcerated and bleeding, like stigmata. I had never seen anything that extreme before, but if you knew how angry she felt toward her piercer, you can understand how her body rejected anything that had to do with that person. She eventually removed every single piercing that she had by that piercer - four in all.

The Body Remembers (http://saveyourself.ca/articles/tissue-memory.php)

Article (www.dldewey.com/columns/foodsf.htm)
allergies create histamine which causes inflammation in the body cells.

Article (http://ahha.org/articles.asp?Id=53)
Blood Histamine Levels
Once in a great while, a researcher with a Ph.D. in chemistry decides to become a medical doctor as well - a lucky break for mankind! Carl Pfeiffer, Ph.D., M.D. was such a scientist. In the sixties he discovered that blood histamine levels were elevated in the lab tests of obsessive-compulsive patients, and as they improved, histamine levels dropped and their depression lifted. He found that his patients who had too low levels of brain histamine were likely to be paranoid and have hallucinations. Both high and low histamine patients had some degree of thought disorder and over arousal. True to his chemistry background, Pfeiffer began the search for what natural substances could make or block histamine in the brain. And of course, he uncovered the right answers.
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mildly (http://www.moldsflowersanddustmites.com/2005/01/antihistimine_a.html) interesting:p


Lupus (http://www.lupus.org/webmodules/webarticlesnet/templates/new_empty.aspx?articleid=376&zoneid=76)

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There are a variety of ways that cutaneous lupus rashes can appear. The distinctive rash is called the "butterfly rash," which is a rash that extends across the cheeks of the face and the bridge of the nose. It can be flat or raised; it can be bright red or it can be just a mild blushing, light pink coloration to the skin. It appears on the face in a pattern that looks like a butterfly; the wings are beneath both eyes and the body of the butterfly covers the bridge of the nose. Here is one example of what a butterfly rash may look like. (Photo source: Dept. of Dermatology, University of Iowa)


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Adverse reaction to dental local anaesthetic injection - 'allergy' is not the cause

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brown.

[hunkahunka]

incredible posts, everyone

Brown, where did you find all those pics and what are they? Are they
burns, scars, allergic reactions, or what?

[brown velvet]

[url]

*Note the cross through the letter O in Osiris


I have seen that same crossed letter O symbol in the word Osiris in a few places:

Theta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theta)
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brown.

[hunkahunka]

http://www.deconstructionist.com/blacknote/theta.htm

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Theta is a state of deep meditation, a space of dreams, visions and heightened creativity. To be in Theta is to be awake within the dream. While in Theta you may comprehend certain cognitions that otherwise seem ungraspable and reach spaces which may otherwise seem unreachable.

[brown velvet]

incredible posts, everyone

Brown, where did you find all those pics and what are they? Are they
burns, scars, allergic reactions, or what?


Yeah, grrrrrrreat posts!!!!!:)


Dermatographic urticaria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatographia)


brown.:D

[soulja]

Yeah, grrrrrrreat posts!!!!!:)


i second that !!

great contributions from everyone, love reading your posts and the thread ;)

[americana]

Now, I'm hardly a scientific whiz, being more of a words/ image type person, more artsy than anything else!

However, Brown's HISTAMINE text and images brought something to mind:

I had been looking at the GARDASIL ad in some women's magazine (Lucky, I believe), and noted that one ingriedient is: "L-histidine". I remembered this when reading Brown's posts.

Hmmm, I thought - - hmmmm, wonder if that has anything to do with HISTAMINE.

Well,
Histidine is one of the 20 most common natural amino acids. Histidine is present in many proteins. L-histidine cannot be formed by other nutrients, and must be in the diet to be available to the body. Histidine is called a semi-essential amino acid (protein building block) because adults generally produce adequate amounts but children may not. Histidine is the direct precursor of histamine,

Now what's THAT all about. Is L-histidine an ingredient in many vaccines?

BTW, and you'll LOVE this . . . .check out the BLUE Butterflies flying around the Talk to Your Doctor or Healthcare Professional: http://www.gardasil.com/gardasil-product-information/index.html

[americana]

Hi :D

angelicdreamz (http://www.angelicdreamz.com/store/tiny_kitty_collier.html)

Now featuring Robert Tonner (http://www.tonnerdoll.com/abouttonner.htm) Fashion dolls, Wizard of Oz (http://www.angelicdreamz.com/store/tonner_wizard_of_oz.html), , Alice in Wonderland, Memoirs of a Geisha, . . . .
The Wiz of Oz link will take you to the Tonner page of all the characters, the Perfume Lady is one of them, I can't find a reference too her atm, anyone know who she is...?

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brown.

That's strange. I'm no expert on the Wizard of Oz - - and actually, I never saw it until this year (I am 41) & used to have a record of it as a child, but never saw the movie . . .

Anyway, in Chapter 11, "The Wonderful City of Oz," there is a reference to PERFUME, and I believe that this is the only reference in the entire novel. Everyone has arrived at Oz:

The soldier now blew upon a green whistle, and at once a young girl, dressed in a pretty green silk gown, entered the room. She had lovely green hair and green eyes, and she bowed low before Dorothy as she said, "Follow me and I will show you your room."

So Dorothy said good-bye to all her friends except Toto, and taking the dog in her arms followed the green girl through seven passages and up three flights of stairs until they came to a room at the front of the Palace. It was the sweetest little room in the world, with a soft comfortable bed that had sheets of green silk and a green velvet counterpane. There was a tiny fountain in the middle of the room, that shot a spray of green perfume into the air, to fall back into a beautifully carved green marble basin. Beautiful green flowers stood in the windows, and there was a shelf with a row of little green books. When Dorothy had time to open these books she found them full of queer green pictures that made her laugh, they were so funny.

In a wardrobe were many green dresses, made of silk and satin and velvet; and all of them fitted Dorothy exactly.

"Make yourself perfectly at home," said the green girl, "and if you wish for anything ring the bell. Oz will send for you tomorrow morning."

[brown velvet]

*Note the cross through the letter O in Osiris

Hi :)


The main centre of bee-keeping (http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/timelines/topics/beekeeping.htm) was Lower Egypt with its extensive cultivated lands, where the bee was chosen as a symbol for the country. One of Pharaoh's titles was Bee King, and the gods also were associated with the bee. The sanctuary in which Osiris was worshiped was the Hwt bjt [7], the Mansion of the Bee.
“The bee was universally revered. In Egypt, the Pharaohs title of Beekeeper was one of his main designations. The double image of the bee and the reed symbolized the Lord of Upper and Lower Egypt. The Egyptians believed that when the Pharaoh died, his soul joined Osiris in the constellation of Orion. There he became one of the bee stars in the Beehive or Prasepe, a group of stars in the constellation of Cancer adjacent to Leo the Lion.

The bee (http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2003/11/23/bees-persephone/) has continued through the millennia as a symbol of the souls survival after death and limitless existence in the harmony of Golden Age of the world. However, the bee also had a very dark side. It remained a primary symbol of the Afro-Asiatic Triple Goddesses such as Demeter, Hecate, Persephone, Aphrodite and the pre-Indo-European aspect of Artemis. Arcadians worshipped both Artemis and Persephone under the name Despoina, which means mistress.

Osirini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osirini)

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Osiris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris_%28genus%29) (genus)

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Queen Bee Infant Halloween Costume
http://www.pinatas.com/v/vspfiles/photos/126123-2.jpg

brown.

[brown velvet]

That's strange. I'm no expert on the Wizard of Oz - - and actually, I never saw it until this year (I am 41) & used to have a record of it as a child, but never saw the movie . . .

Anyway, in Chapter 11, "The Wonderful City of Oz," there is a reference to PERFUME, and I believe that this is the only reference in the entire novel. Everyone has arrived at Oz:

Hi :)

yeah I saw that piece of writing:rolleyes: and not knowing the books at all, was unsure if there was a secret one I hadn't located.
So, if she is hardly given any acknowledgement or story line.... why-oh-why would Mr Tonner want to make just her 'outfit only'...? Making sure that a perfume bottle is included too. My best guess would be as an excuse to bring in to a child / 'big girl's' room / home 'aroma's' and off we go in to the world of 'spells and magic'. And all locked in to Green and the Emerald City

Chartreuse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartreuse_%28liqueur%29) (liqueur)
Chartreuse is a French liqueur composed of distilled alcohol flavored with 130 herbal extracts. The liqueur is named after the Grande Chartreuse monastery where it was formerly produced, located in the Chartreuse Mountains. The liquor is nowadays produced in a factory in the nearby town of Voiron under the supervision of monks from the monastery.

The Taste
Chartreuse has a very strong characteristic flavor. It is very sweet, by turns both spicy and pungent. By way of comparison, it is quite similar to Liquore Strega or Galliano. Its taste varies depending upon the serving temperature. It is often served on ice, but can be added to cocktails or added to a mixer. Some mixed drink recipes call for only a few drops of Chartreuse, so assertive is its flavor. Though the flavor is highly complex, many[who?] find it most distinctly reminiscent of anise, which is easily discernible as one of the ingredients.



Anise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anise)
Pimpinella species are used as food plants by the larvae of some Lepidoptera species (butterflies and moths), including the lime-speck pug and wormwood pug.

Medicinal
Anise, like fennel, contains anethole, and is known to be a phytoestrogen.[3]
Anise is a mild antiparasitic and its leaves can be used to treat digestive problems, relieve toothache, and its essential oil to treat lice and scabies.

Aniseed is the flavour of the sweetened gum Blackjack and Nigeria's "Tom Tom" candy.
Anise can be made into a liquid scent and is used for both hunting and fishing. Anise smells similar to liquorice and is put on fishing lures to attract fish. Anethole, the principal component of anise oil, is a precursor that can eventually produce 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde which is used in the clandestine synthesis of psychedelic drugs such as 2C-B, 2C-I and DOB.[4] Anise is also the main flavor of absinthe as well as being used as a flavoring for pastis, ouzo, pernod, sambuca, rakı, Becherovka, anice tutone, Chartreuse and other liqueurs. Anise has a particular effect on some dogs that parallels the effect of catnip on house cats. Some cats as well seem attracted to anise. Anise is perfectly safe for cats and dogs alike to ingest.



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[brown velvet]

This one made me laugh - cop calls emergency line after making brownies with marijuana

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1f4_1179038976

well it made me laugh.....




brown.

[cheeb]

Satanist’ kills boy at school
18 Aug 2008

Krugersdorp — “Do you want to see something cool?” With these words, in front of classmates, a “possessed” and masked grade 12 pupil at a Krugersdorp school hacked a fellow pupil to death with a Samurai-type sword yesterday morning.

“Watch out! He’s lost his head!” matric pupils shouted, moments before Morné Harmse (18), of the Nic Diederichs Technical High School in Krugersdorp West, pulled out the sword and slashed the neck of Jacques Pretorius (16).

Pupils said Harmse was “possessed by the devil” when he began his violent attack at about 7.20 am.

“Do you want to see something cool?” Harmse apparently said to a matric girl moments before he sliced through Jacques’ aorta.

Jacques’ best friend, JC Welman (16), was standing next to him when he was attacked.

“I was still wondering if it wasn’t a joke, but then I saw the blood bubbling out of his neck,” Welman said, in tears.

Jacques died on the scene, said Netcare 911 spokesman Mark Stokoe.

Stunned pupils told how Harmse, wearing his school uniform and a black and brown mask, walked down the passage and swung his sword about.

Harmse also injured two workers at the school with his sword.

Pupil Stefan Bouwer (17) was also stabbed and another suffered a shock-induced asthma attack.

Harmse finally pushed the blade of the sword into the ground in a small garden next to the school courtyard and sat down.

He pulled off his mask when teachers approached and presented his face, which was smeared with black polish.

“What happened? What happened?” he asked the teachers who took him to the staff room.

“Satan said he is going to kill me if I don’t kill them before the end of the day,” he apparently said earlier.

Pupils were already in assembly when they heard the police sirens.

“A teacher came in after the prayer and said we had to go home until further notice,” a pupil said.

A reliable source said Harmse brought four masks, similar to those worn by the heavy metal band Slipknot, in his school bag.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5458/slipknotspiraltx7.jpg
Spiral

Apparently he was also carrying three samurai swords.

The source said one of the masks was white, similar to that worn by Slipknot’s drummer Joey.

During the attack Harmse apparently wore a mask similar to the one belonging to the lead singer Corey.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7672/slipnotcorieoi5.jpg

Another mask was a clown mask, similar to band member Shawn’s, and the third mask was a gasmask as worn by the DJ, Sid.


http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/86/slipknotpentyu4.jpg

Apparently Harmse tried to persuade friends to join him in the slaying. “He told them: ‘Today is the day you can get back at those who were against you’.”

Harmse apparently also used words such as “masquerade” and “bloodbath”.

His friends said his eyes were red and black, like those of a crazy person.
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John Wayne Gacy


Those who were injured were treated in hospital. The two workers were discharged and Bouwer was admitted. He was in a stable condition last night.

Meanwhile, Beeld was told confidentially that another 18-year-old boy was arrested with Harmse yesterday.

Police spokesman Captain Jacob Raboroko could only confirm one arrest.

The two boys are expected to appear in the Krugersdorp Magistrate’s Court today on charges of murder and attempted murder.


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Sign Of Silence- No Talk Trigger

http://news.iafrica.com/crime/1088601.htm

[brown velvet]

Hi :)

On BBC tv last night was a program about Pedigree dogs / pure breds. I have uploaded some images from it, showing just how far 'dogs' have come with the honing techniques employed by Eugenics / blood lines.......

there's a mention at about 15 minutes, and again at about 24 minutes. The show is on BBC iPlayer for a week, up until Wednesday 27 August 2008

Pedigree (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00d4ljk/) Dogs Exposed (iPlayer)

BBC Programme 'Pedigree (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/118710.php) Dogs Exposed' - BBC1, Tuesday 19 August, 9.00 Pm (article)

selective breeding

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Eugenics_congress_logo.png/275px-Eugenics_congress_logo.png
Eugenics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics) is a social philosophy which advocates the improvement of human hereditary traits through various forms of intervention.[2] Throughout history, eugenics has been regarded by its various advocates as a social responsibility, an altruistic stance of a society, meant to create healthier, stronger and/or more intelligent people, to save resources, and lessen human suffering.

Earlier proposed means of achieving these goals focused on selective breeding, while modern ones focus on prenatal testing and screening, genetic counseling, birth control, in vitro fertilization, and genetic engineering. Opponents argue that eugenics is immoral. Historically, a minority of eugenics advocates have used it as a justification for state-sponsored discrimination, forced sterilization of persons deemed genetically defective, and the killing of institutionalized populations. Eugenics was also used to rationalize certain aspects of the Holocaust. The modern field and term were first formulated by Sir Francis Galton in 1883,[3] drawing on the recent work of his cousin Charles Darwin. From its inception eugenics was supported by prominent people, including H. G. Wells, Emile Zola, George Bernard Shaw, John Maynard Keynes, William Keith Kellogg and Margaret Sanger.[4][5][6] G. K. Chesterton was an early critic of the philosophy of eugenics, expressing this opinion in his book, Eugenics and Other Evils. Eugenics became an academic discipline at many colleges and universities. Funding was provided by prestigious sources such as the Rockefeller Foundation, the Kellogg Foundation, the Carnegie Institution of Washington, and the Harriman family.[7] Three International Eugenics Conferences presented a global venue for eugenicists with meetings in 1912 in London, and in 1921 and 1932 in New York. Eugenics' scientific reputation started to tumble in the 1930s, a time when Ernst Rüdin began incorporating eugenic rhetoric into the racial policies of Nazi Germany.

from this.....
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/bassett03a.jpg
and this
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/bassett02a.jpg
to this.
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/bassett01a.jpg

and this...
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/pug01a.jpg
to these.....
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http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/pug04a.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/pug03a.jpg


(couldn't resist :rolleyes:)
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Bull Dog, from this....
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to this...
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Bull dogs, 100 years to go from this...
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/100yearsbulldog01a.jpg
to this...
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/100yearsbulldog02a.jpg

It was distressing piece of tv viewing, and the Kennel Club seemed to being bullied by the 'breeders'


brown.

[hunkahunka]

Satanist’ kills boy at school
18 Aug 2008
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7672/slipnotcorieoi5.jpg
http://news.iafrica.com/crime/1088601.htm

Another great post, Cheeb. In that 1995 interview with the author of 'Operation Mind Control', Walter Bowart predicted mind control mass shootings, like the Columbine massacre and others to begin happening around 1998, and he turned out to be right.

I posted the Bowart interview earlier in this thread, but unfortunately there were some audio glitches in it.
That interview has been re-uploaded here, with the problems fixed.
I urge everyone to listen to the whole one hour, now that it is repaired:

walter bowart - operation mind control - dave emory interview 1995.mp3 - 9.76MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/17386216180d891b/)


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/01/14/arts/bowart190.jpg
Walter Bowart
Born May 14, 1939
Died December 18, 2007

Oddly, Bowart also mentions a military couple who worked on cracking the Japanese code during WWII who voluntarily
submitted their baby for mind control torture/programming. Sumner Redstone, owner of MTV , was an OSS/CIA
encryption specialist during WWII, and was part of the team that cracked the Japanese code.

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[emerald]

LED ZEPPELIN Biography 'When Giants Walked The Earth' Due In October

Orion Books has set an October 16 UK release date for author Mick Wall's "When Giants Walked The Earth: A Biography Of Led Zeppelin". A description of the 400-page hardcover book reads as follows:

"Forty years since their formation in a grubby Chinatown basement comes the first truly definitive biography of the world's most legendary rock band — LED ZEPPELIN.

"They were 'the last great band of the sixties; the first great band of the seventies'; they rose, somewhat unpromisingly, from the ashes of THE YARDBIRDS to become one of the biggest-selling rock bands of all time.

"Mick Wall, respected rock writer and former confidant of both Page and Plant, unflinchingly tells the story of the band that wrote the rulebook for on-the-road excess — and eventually paid the price for it, with disaster, drug addiction and death. 'When Giants Walked the Earth' reveals for the first time the true extent of band leader Jimmy Page's longstanding interest in the occult, and goes behind the scenes to expose the truth behind their much-hyped yet spectacularly contrived comeback at London's O2 arena last year, and how Jimmy Page plans to bring the band back permanently — if only his former protégé, now part-time nemesis, Robert Plant will allow him to. And Wall also recounts, in a series of flashbacks, the life stories of the five individuals that made the dream of LED ZEPPELIN into an even more incredible and hard-to-swallow reality: Page, Plant, John Paul Jones, John Bonham, and their infamous manager, Peter Grant.

"Above all, a book that tells the full, shocking story of LED ZEPPELIN from the inside, written by someone who has known Jimmy Page for over twenty years, 'When Giants Walked the Earth' is the culmination of several years research. It is based not just on the individual interviews with every member of the band that author Mick Wall has conducted over the years — as well as those who knew and worked with them - but on the insight that only thirty years working in the music business alongside its biggest artists can bring."

Why ORION (BOOKS) by all means?:D

[hunkahunka]

The heavy metal band Atreyu has some interesting album covers:

http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/A/Atreyu/Best%20of%20Atreyu/Best%20of%20Atreyu.jpg
rainbow, butterfly bow, blood
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butterflies
http://funkysouls.com/img/AtreyuTheCurse.jpg
woman whose skin is manifesting markings (veins/blood lines appearing)
http://www.rockdetector.com/assets/img/covers/194114.jpg
here she is fully transformed into her vampire alter



William Burrough's nickname was 'the bull'


Atreyu song

Becoming the Bull

Come on!

Grab the bull by the horns the old addage goes.
Nobody tells you where to go from here.
I see whats greatful in you.
Decisions have to be made.
The worse path is the hardest earned.

Back and forth the struggle consumes us all.
Trying to keep a level head.
In the most unsettling of times.
Today I'll become the bull. (Become the bull!)

There is so much at steak.
I'll stumble I'll loose my place.
Crowded in while surrounded by sin.
Destiny takes its hold.
Find it or let it go.
But I choose how it ends we'll end.

G-G-G-Go!

Back and forth the struggle consumes us all.
Trying to keep a level head.
In the most unsettling of times.
Today I'll become the bull. (Become the bull!)
Today I'll become the bull.

This small heart can get lonely.
I lose myself inside myself.
No one can touch you when you're outside staring in.
Remove myself from this pride race.

Back and forth the struggle consumes us all.
Trying to keep a level head.
In the most unsettling of times.
Today I'll become the bull. (Become the bull!)
.



In the Zodiac Aries, the Celestial Ram, is the one who breaks the icy clutch of winter and opens the way to renewed life, and Taurus (the Bull) and the Sun plow the blue meadows of the heavens. The bull like the sun is the great fecundator of nature, and together they symbolise the eternal productive pair. Thus the Bull of Heaven found its counterpart on earth in the Ox. Apis is the Ox into which the soul of Osiris enters, "because the animal has been of service in the cultivation of the ground." The connection is a very obvious one. Osiris as a water god pours the Nile over the land, and the bull god provided the strength which enabled the Egyptians to plow it up.

The bull god Apis, the Sacred Bull of the Assyrians and the bull Nandi of the Hindus are looked upon as identical types. Some of the numerous sculptures represent Mithras kneeling on the back of a bull and plunging a knife in its flank. In others he has thrown the bull on the ground and with one knee on its croup plunges a knife into its heart. A dog, serpent, scorpion figure, also two youths, one with an inverted torch and the other holding aloft a burning torch. The symbolism remains a mystery. Unless, as Frazer surmises, Mithras who was a sun-god, a corn-god, a twice-born god sacrifices the "ox who appears as a representative of the corn-spirit. .." The sacrificing of a bull formed a leading feature in the mysteries of Mithraism, and he suggests that the bull may be "conceived in one at least of its aspects, as an incarnation of the corn-spirit."1

As Mithras was the springtime sun and the Bull of the Zodiac presides over the spring, and as the ancients looked upon blood as the primary vehicle of life, it is not unjustifiable to suppose that the bull sacrificed by the sun-god was to release the waters (or blood) of life so that all nature might be revived. "From the sacrifice of the bull of Mithra the entire creation springs." 2

Lajard finds that the two principal attributes of Venus in the Orient and Occident are the Lion, symbol of the sun, heat, light, the active generative power, and the Bull, symbol of the humid power, the passive power. When the goddess is attended by both ,animals he interprets it as typifying the hermaphroditism of Venus.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f202/i8bear/funny%20stuff/atreyu.jpg
Atreyu is also a character from the movie 'Never Ending Story', and the band named themselves after him

[americana]

Hello!

Can someone please let me know more about the spiral symbolism?

I realize that it is like certain man/boy pedophile symbols.

Is it like a trigger to another dimension (or, dissociation/ over the rainbow) ? (i.e. Mimzy's belly-button?)

Thanks for any ideas that you have!

[brown velvet]

Shirley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_temple) Temple


Shirley Jane Temple (born April 23, 1928) is an Academy Award-winning actress and tap dancer, most famous for being an iconic American child actress of the 1930s, who enjoyed a notable career as a diplomat as an adult. After rising to fame at the age of six with her breakthrough performance in Bright Eyes in 1934, she starred in a series of highly successful films which won her widespread public adulation and saw her become the top grossing star at the American box-office during the height of the Great Depression. She went on to star in films as a young adult in the 1940s. In later life, she became a United States ambassador and diplomat.

Temple worked at Educational from 1931 to 1934,[2] [1] and appeared in two series of short subjects for the studio. Her first series, Baby Burlesks, satirized recent motion pictures and politics. In the series, Temple would dress up in a diaper, but would otherwise wear adult clothes. Because of its depiction of young children in adult situations the series was considered controversial by some viewers.[who?] Her second series at Educational, Frolics of Youth, was a bit more acceptable, and cast her as a bratty younger sister in a contemporary suburban family.



In 16 of the 20 films Temple made for Fox, she played characters with at least one dead parent. This was part of the formula for her films, which encouraged the adults in the audience to take on the role of her parent.[1]

Temple became Fox's most lucrative player. Her contract was amended several times between 1933 and 1935, and she was loaned to Paramount for a pair of successful films in 1934. For four years, she was the top-grossing box-office star in America. Shirley's birth certificate was altered to prolong her babyhood; her birth year was advanced from 1928 to 1929. She was not told her real age until her "twelfth" (actually her thirteenth) birthday.

- note, it is very important to keep a young chld victim disorientated regarding it's age, usually to allow the child to remain home an extra year before infant school.

Temple's films were not always seen in a positive light. The novelist Graham Greene wrote in a review for the magazine Night and Day of her appearance in Wee Willie Winkie:

Her admirers - middle-aged men and clergymen - respond to her dubious coquetry, to the sight of her well-shaped and desirable little body, packed with enormous vitality, only because the safety curtain of story and dialogue drops between their intelligence and their desire.



Product line
There were many Temple-based products manufactured and released during the 1930s. Ideal's Temple dolls, first made in 1934, dressed in costumes from the movies, were top sellers.[7] Original Shirley Temple dolls bring in hundreds of dollars on the secondary market today. Other successful Temple items included a line of girls' dresses, hairbows, bracelets and handkerchiefs. A popular breakfast set, consisting of a mug, pitcher and cereal bowl in cobalt blue and featuring a decal of Temple, was given away as a premium with Wheaties and Bisquick.[7] Several of Temple's film songs, including "On the Good Ship Lollipop"(from Bright Eyes), "Animal Crackers in My Soup" (from Curly Top) and "Goodnight My Love" (from Stowaway) were popular radio hits. She frequently lent her likeness and talent to promoting various social causes, including the Red Cross.


Political, business and diplomatic career
Temple ran unsuccessfully for Congress against retired Korean War veteran Pete McCloskey in 1967. She ran on a platform supporting America's involvement in the Vietnam War.[citation needed]

Temple went on to hold several diplomatic posts, serving as the U.S. delegate to many international conferences and summits. She was appointed a delegate to the United Nations by President Richard M. Nixon in 1969. She was appointed United States Ambassador to Ghana (1974–76). She became the first female Chief of Protocol of the United States in 1976, which put in her charge of all State Department ceremonies, visits, gifts to foreign leaders and co-ordination of protocol issues with all U.S. embassies and consulates. She was United States Ambassador to Czechoslovakia (1989–92) and witnessed the Velvet Revolution. She commented, about her Ambassadorship, "That was the best job I ever had." She was designated the first Honorary Foreign Service Officer in U.S. history by then U.S. Secretary of State, George Shultz in 1987.[citation needed]

Temple served on the board of directors of some large enterprises including The Walt Disney Company (1974–75), Del Monte, Bancal Tri-State, and Fireman's Fund Insurance. Her non-profit board appointments included the Institute for International Studies at Stanford University, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Council of American Ambassadors, the World Affairs Council, the United States Commission for UNESCO, the National Committee on U.S.-China Relations, the United Nations Association, and the U.S. Citizen's Space TaskForce.[citation needed]




When Temple first ran for public office, a poster was published showing her in one of her earliest movies; a caption read, "Vote for Me or I'll Hold My Breath."

In the animated feature film Shrek the Third, the Gingerbread Man sings "On the Good Ship Lollipop" to himself after seeing his life flash before his eyes.

Temple is the only person, besides The Beatles themselves, who appears more than once on the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover. She appears as a cut-out in the last row and a Shirley Temple doll is featured on the right side, wearing a shirt saying "Welcome The Rolling Stones".

In the 1997 movie Tower of Terror, Sally Shine, a child movie star, is killed in the elevator in 1939 along with four others. With her curly blonde mop, sweet demeanor, and short, flouncy dress, (and her own doll modeled after her), she appears to be modeled after Temple.

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Tower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Terror_%28film%29) of Terror

Plot
The movie begins with a flashback to Halloween, 1939. That night, at the Hollywood Tower Hotel a group of people- aspiring singer Clair, her boyfriend Gilbert, child star Sally Shine, her nanny Emiline Partridge, and bellhop Dewey Todd- board the elevator in order to go the party on floor twelve. When the elevator gets to floor eleven, however, a bolt of lightning violently strikes the elevator. The guests on the elevator disappear...




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b4/Dali_Temple_image.jpg/300px-Dali_Temple_image.jpg

Shirley Temple, The Youngest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Temple,_The_Youngest,_Most_Sacred_Monster_ of_the_Cinema_in_Her_Time), Most Sacred Monster of the Cinema in Her Time

Shirley Temple, The Youngest, Most Sacred Monster of the Cinema in Her Time (or Shirley Temple, The Youngest, Most Sacred Monster of Contemporary Cinema), also known as the Barcelona Sphinx[1] is a 1939 artwork in gouache, pastel and collage on cardboard by surrealist painter Salvador Dalí. It measures 75 cm x 100 cm (29.5 inches x 39.5 inches). It is housed in The Netherlands, at the Museum Boijmans van Beuningen, Rotterdam's principal art gallery.

It was first shown at an exhibition held at the Julien Levy Gallery, New York, from March 21 to April 18, 1939 (although the exhibition catalogue does not mention the painting, an article in the New York Times mentions its presence).[2] It has also been exhibited in 1983 at the Palau Reial de Pedralbes in Barcelona, in 1985 at the Palais des Beaux Arts in Charleroi, and again in Barcelona in 2004, at the CaixaForum.[1] From June 1 to September 9, 2007 it was one of around 100 Dali works on display at the Tate Modern in London as part of the "Dali And Film" exhibition.[3]

It depicts the head of child star Shirley Temple, taken from a newspaper photograph, superimposed on the body of a red lioness with obvious breasts and white claws. On top of her head is a bat. Surrounding the Shirley-lioness are a human skull and other bones, presumed to be from her latest kill. At the bottom of the painting is a trompe-l'œil label that reads: "Shirley!. at last in Technicolor."[4]

The painting is thought by some critics to be a satire of the sexualisation of child stars by Hollywood.[5][6]



"On the Good (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Good_Ship_Lollipop) Ship Lollipop" was the trademark song of child actress Shirley Temple. Temple first sang it in the 1934 movie Bright Eyes. Contrary to popular belief, the ship in the song is an aircraft. In the song, the "Good Ship Lollipop" travels to a candy land. There is a direct reference to an airplane in the song: "Someday I'm going to fly/I'll be a pilot, too...". The song was composed by Richard A. Whiting and lyrics were supplied by Sidney Clare. 500,000 copies of the sheet music were sold. A recording by Mae Questel (the cartoon voice of Betty Boop and Olive Oyl) reputedly sold more than 2 million copies.[citation needed]

It should be noted that the aircraft in "Bright Eyes" was an American Airways (before it was airlines) DC2.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_RZTusUzM8

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On The Good (http://www.shirleytemplefans.com/songs/songs.htm) Ship Lollipop
Bright Eyes

I've thrown away my toys,
Even my drum and trains;
I wanna make some noise
With real live aeroplanes.
Someday I'm going to fly,
I'll be a pilot too:
And when I do, how would you
Like to be my crew?

* On the good ship Lollipop,
It's a trip to a candy shop,
Where bon-bons play
On the sunny beach of peppermint bay.
Lemonade stands everywhere.
Cracker jack bands fill the air'
And there you are,
Happy landing on a chocolate bar.
See the sugar bowl do a tootsie roll
With the big bad devil's food cake;
If you eat too much, ooh! ooh!
You'll awake with a "tummy-ache!"
On the good ship Lollipop,
It's a night trip, into bed you hop.

1. With this command:
"All aboard for candy land!" *

2. And dream away
On the good ship Lollipop.


http://www.alloccasioncards.net/birthday/candyland.jpg


Animal Crackers in My Soup
Curly Top

Once mother said: My little pet,
you ought to learn the alphabet."
I learned them all from A to Z
And now my mother's giving me:

Animal crackers in my soup
Monkeys and rabbits loop the loop;
Gosh, oh gee, but I have fun
Swallowing animals one bye one!
In every bowl of soup , I see
lions and tigers watching me;
I make them jump right through a hoop,
Those animal crackers in my soup.
When I get hold of the "big bad wolf"
I push him under to drown;
Then I bite him in a million bits,
and I gobble him down,
When they're inside me, where it's dark,
I walk around like Noah's ark."
I stuff my tummy, like a "goop,"
With animal crackers in my soup.



http://www.allmydolls.com/cabinet1mar.jpg



http://www.allmydolls.com/mydollstop/mydolls/doll41/snowwhite1.jpg



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Ambassador_to_Czechoslovakia_Shirley_Temple_199010 25.jpg/250px-Ambassador_to_Czechoslovakia_Shirley_Temple_199010 25.jpg

- and all together..... Black and red, chequered jumper / sweater, black and red necklace.

http://www.sagawards.org/files/images/2005_ShirleyTempleBlackw:Statue.preview.jpg


brown.

[americana]

Great post!!! Lots to think about.

Anyhoo, I noted that you put in blue and bold the words "cobalt blue". From my understanding, glass dishes and such, in cobalt blue, were given away as prizes at the movies, etc. during the depression. "Blue Plate Special". Now, why blue historically, I don't know. But it's interesting to consider!

[sade]

Someone posted about the Toblerone before...
I can't remember if the person posted a pic about this, so I took a pic of mine;
(I've stopped using sugar, so I can't eat it.:o)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8660/img0833qm6.jpg

Also, does the mountain in the picture just picture Switzerland, or does it have more meaning to it?
I've always wondered why no one EVER attacked Switzerland in WW1 & 2, if I remember correctly...Must be that bank...

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/803/img0835cm0.jpg

[brown velvet]

Hello!

Can someone please let me know more about the spiral symbolism?

I realize that it is like certain man/boy pedophile symbols.

Is it like a trigger to another dimension (or, dissociation/ over the rainbow) ? (i.e. Mimzy's belly-button?)

Thanks for any ideas that you have!

Hiya :cool:

unfortunately I do not have access to anything that tells me what it means either..... meaning I can only give you my opinion, hard earned and mine as it is! lol

The spiral is a 'layered' image, as so many of them are, the spiral has several, so it truly does all depend on the programmer as to which one he wants, probably by placement on to the various mediums used to keep the sign in the eye of the general population.
Firstly is it to remind of hypnosis? Spiral down or up? To cause the feeling of being spun (as in a whirlpool / washing machine) a helix / corkscrew spiral or a 'flat' one (carousel like)
Placed on to the eyes, spinning and causing no concentration?
I think it highly likely the ones on 'tummy's' is to remind of being 'tickled' on your tummy, of course that in it's self if proging language for those that know. Caring parents / adults WILL be tickling a childs tummy, vicitms are abused and told it is 'tickling'. Think of the confusion... Hearing all about genuine affection and tickling from your school friends and trying to work out why their friends seem to like it, and yet they don't as it hurts.....:confused: Kittens / puppies get tickled, many victims are programmed to think they are kittens..... layer after layer....

http://www.happychild.org.uk/Webimage/poliwhirl.jpg

http://soluciones.solucionesytrucos.org/pokedex/poliwhirl.gif

http://www.ddronlinecommunity.com/uploaded_image/image/245/avatar/061_Poliwhirl.png?1208623031

http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Mean%20Pokemon.jpg

hope I have helped


brown.

[brown velvet]

Great post!!! Lots to think about.

Anyhoo, I noted that you put in blue and bold the words "cobalt blue". From my understanding, glass dishes and such, in cobalt blue, were given away as prizes at the movies, etc. during the depression. "Blue Plate Special". Now, why blue historically, I don't know. But it's interesting to consider!

hey Americana:eek:

wow, that's a superb piece of info http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/f/faint.gif
in the UK we have a childrens program called Blue Peter, like the ship. Been on air for years and years.... bit of an institution really, most brits have something to say about Blue Peter, obviously not always good lolol, it has had many presenters, we can compare who we watched as children, a bit like which Dr Who we all grew up with.
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/bluepeter01.jpg

http://www.theartofair.com/usrimage/blue%20peter%20ball%20copy.jpg
Blue (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/bluepeter/holding.shtml) Peter
New web site launching in Sept 08


brown.

[brown velvet]

Someone posted about the Toblerone before...
I can't remember if the person posted a pic about this, so I took a pic of mine;
(I've stopped using sugar, so I can't eat it.:o)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8660/img0833qm6.jpg

Also, does the mountain in the picture just picture Switzerland, or does it have more meaning to it?
I've always wondered why no one EVER attacked Switzerland in WW1 & 2, if I remember correctly...Must be that bank...

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/803/img0835cm0.jpg

Hi

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs22/300W/f/2008/028/6/c/Mysteries_of_Time_by_Silvareiel.jpg

Pyramid?


brown.

[amethyst]

Shirley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_temple) Temple


Shirley Jane Temple (born April 23, 1928) is an Academy Award-winning actress and tap dancer, most famous for being an iconic American child actress of the 1930s, who enjoyed a notable career as a diplomat as an adult. After rising to fame at the age of six with her breakthrough performance in Bright Eyes in 1934, she starred in a series of highly successful films which won her widespread public adulation and saw her become the top grossing star at the American box-office during the height of the Great Depression. She went on to star in films as a young adult in the 1940s. In later life, she became a United States ambassador and diplomat.

Temple worked at Educational from 1931 to 1934,[2] [1] and appeared in two series of short subjects for the studio. Her first series, Baby Burlesks, satirized recent motion pictures and politics. In the series, Temple would dress up in a diaper, but would otherwise wear adult clothes. Because of its depiction of young children in adult situations the series was considered controversial by some viewers.[who?] Her second series at Educational, Frolics of Youth, was a bit more acceptable, and cast her as a bratty younger sister in a contemporary suburban family.



In 16 of the 20 films Temple made for Fox, she played characters with at least one dead parent. This was part of the formula for her films, which encouraged the adults in the audience to take on the role of her parent.[1]

Temple became Fox's most lucrative player. Her contract was amended several times between 1933 and 1935, and she was loaned to Paramount for a pair of successful films in 1934. For four years, she was the top-grossing box-office star in America. Shirley's birth certificate was altered to prolong her babyhood; her birth year was advanced from 1928 to 1929. She was not told her real age until her "twelfth" (actually her thirteenth) birthday.

- note, it is very important to keep a young chld victim disorientated regarding it's age, usually to allow the child to remain home an extra year before infant school.

Temple's films were not always seen in a positive light. The novelist Graham Greene wrote in a review for the magazine Night and Day of her appearance in Wee Willie Winkie:

Her admirers - middle-aged men and clergymen - respond to her dubious coquetry, to the sight of her well-shaped and desirable little body, packed with enormous vitality, only because the safety curtain of story and dialogue drops between their intelligence and their desire.



Product line
There were many Temple-based products manufactured and released during the 1930s. Ideal's Temple dolls, first made in 1934, dressed in costumes from the movies, were top sellers.[7] Original Shirley Temple dolls bring in hundreds of dollars on the secondary market today. Other successful Temple items included a line of girls' dresses, hairbows, bracelets and handkerchiefs. A popular breakfast set, consisting of a mug, pitcher and cereal bowl in cobalt blue and featuring a decal of Temple, was given away as a premium with Wheaties and Bisquick.[7] Several of Temple's film songs, including "On the Good Ship Lollipop"(from Bright Eyes), "Animal Crackers in My Soup" (from Curly Top) and "Goodnight My Love" (from Stowaway) were popular radio hits. She frequently lent her likeness and talent to promoting various social causes, including the Red Cross.


Political, business and diplomatic career
Temple ran unsuccessfully for Congress against retired Korean War veteran Pete McCloskey in 1967. She ran on a platform supporting America's involvement in the Vietnam War.[citation needed]

Temple went on to hold several diplomatic posts, serving as the U.S. delegate to many international conferences and summits. She was appointed a delegate to the United Nations by President Richard M. Nixon in 1969. She was appointed United States Ambassador to Ghana (1974–76). She became the first female Chief of Protocol of the United States in 1976, which put in her charge of all State Department ceremonies, visits, gifts to foreign leaders and co-ordination of protocol issues with all U.S. embassies and consulates. She was United States Ambassador to Czechoslovakia (1989–92) and witnessed the Velvet Revolution. She commented, about her Ambassadorship, "That was the best job I ever had." She was designated the first Honorary Foreign Service Officer in U.S. history by then U.S. Secretary of State, George Shultz in 1987.[citation needed]

Temple served on the board of directors of some large enterprises including The Walt Disney Company (1974–75), Del Monte, Bancal Tri-State, and Fireman's Fund Insurance. Her non-profit board appointments included the Institute for International Studies at Stanford University, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Council of American Ambassadors, the World Affairs Council, the United States Commission for UNESCO, the National Committee on U.S.-China Relations, the United Nations Association, and the U.S. Citizen's Space TaskForce.[citation needed]




When Temple first ran for public office, a poster was published showing her in one of her earliest movies; a caption read, "Vote for Me or I'll Hold My Breath."

In the animated feature film Shrek the Third, the Gingerbread Man sings "On the Good Ship Lollipop" to himself after seeing his life flash before his eyes.

Temple is the only person, besides The Beatles themselves, who appears more than once on the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover. She appears as a cut-out in the last row and a Shirley Temple doll is featured on the right side, wearing a shirt saying "Welcome The Rolling Stones".

In the 1997 movie Tower of Terror, Sally Shine, a child movie star, is killed in the elevator in 1939 along with four others. With her curly blonde mop, sweet demeanor, and short, flouncy dress, (and her own doll modeled after her), she appears to be modeled after Temple.

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/21%2008%2008%20Temple/brighteyes-1.jpg
Tower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Terror_%28film%29) of Terror

Plot
The movie begins with a flashback to Halloween, 1939. That night, at the Hollywood Tower Hotel a group of people- aspiring singer Clair, her boyfriend Gilbert, child star Sally Shine, her nanny Emiline Partridge, and bellhop Dewey Todd- board the elevator in order to go the party on floor twelve. When the elevator gets to floor eleven, however, a bolt of lightning violently strikes the elevator. The guests on the elevator disappear...




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b4/Dali_Temple_image.jpg/300px-Dali_Temple_image.jpg

Shirley Temple, The Youngest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Temple,_The_Youngest,_Most_Sacred_Monster_ of_the_Cinema_in_Her_Time), Most Sacred Monster of the Cinema in Her Time

Shirley Temple, The Youngest, Most Sacred Monster of the Cinema in Her Time (or Shirley Temple, The Youngest, Most Sacred Monster of Contemporary Cinema), also known as the Barcelona Sphinx[1] is a 1939 artwork in gouache, pastel and collage on cardboard by surrealist painter Salvador Dalí. It measures 75 cm x 100 cm (29.5 inches x 39.5 inches). It is housed in The Netherlands, at the Museum Boijmans van Beuningen, Rotterdam's principal art gallery.

It was first shown at an exhibition held at the Julien Levy Gallery, New York, from March 21 to April 18, 1939 (although the exhibition catalogue does not mention the painting, an article in the New York Times mentions its presence).[2] It has also been exhibited in 1983 at the Palau Reial de Pedralbes in Barcelona, in 1985 at the Palais des Beaux Arts in Charleroi, and again in Barcelona in 2004, at the CaixaForum.[1] From June 1 to September 9, 2007 it was one of around 100 Dali works on display at the Tate Modern in London as part of the "Dali And Film" exhibition.[3]

It depicts the head of child star Shirley Temple, taken from a newspaper photograph, superimposed on the body of a red lioness with obvious breasts and white claws. On top of her head is a bat. Surrounding the Shirley-lioness are a human skull and other bones, presumed to be from her latest kill. At the bottom of the painting is a trompe-l'œil label that reads: "Shirley!. at last in Technicolor."[4]

The painting is thought by some critics to be a satire of the sexualisation of child stars by Hollywood.[5][6]



"On the Good (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Good_Ship_Lollipop) Ship Lollipop" was the trademark song of child actress Shirley Temple. Temple first sang it in the 1934 movie Bright Eyes. Contrary to popular belief, the ship in the song is an aircraft. In the song, the "Good Ship Lollipop" travels to a candy land. There is a direct reference to an airplane in the song: "Someday I'm going to fly/I'll be a pilot, too...". The song was composed by Richard A. Whiting and lyrics were supplied by Sidney Clare. 500,000 copies of the sheet music were sold. A recording by Mae Questel (the cartoon voice of Betty Boop and Olive Oyl) reputedly sold more than 2 million copies.[citation needed]

It should be noted that the aircraft in "Bright Eyes" was an American Airways (before it was airlines) DC2.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_RZTusUzM8

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/21%2008%2008%20Temple/ShirleyTempleGoodShipLollipop123456.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/21%2008%2008%20Temple/ShirleyTempleGoodShipLollipop789101.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/21%2008%2008%20Temple/ShirleyTempleGoodShipLollipoprest.jpg




On The Good (http://www.shirleytemplefans.com/songs/songs.htm) Ship Lollipop
Bright Eyes

I've thrown away my toys,
Even my drum and trains;
I wanna make some noise
With real live aeroplanes.
Someday I'm going to fly,
I'll be a pilot too:
And when I do, how would you
Like to be my crew?

* On the good ship Lollipop,
It's a trip to a candy shop,
Where bon-bons play
On the sunny beach of peppermint bay.
Lemonade stands everywhere.
Cracker jack bands fill the air'
And there you are,
Happy landing on a chocolate bar.
See the sugar bowl do a tootsie roll
With the big bad devil's food cake;
If you eat too much, ooh! ooh!
You'll awake with a "tummy-ache!"
On the good ship Lollipop,
It's a night trip, into bed you hop.

1. With this command:
"All aboard for candy land!" *

2. And dream away
On the good ship Lollipop.


http://www.alloccasioncards.net/birthday/candyland.jpg


Animal Crackers in My Soup
Curly Top

Once mother said: My little pet,
you ought to learn the alphabet."
I learned them all from A to Z
And now my mother's giving me:

Animal crackers in my soup
Monkeys and rabbits loop the loop;
Gosh, oh gee, but I have fun
Swallowing animals one bye one!
In every bowl of soup , I see
lions and tigers watching me;
I make them jump right through a hoop,
Those animal crackers in my soup.
When I get hold of the "big bad wolf"
I push him under to drown;
Then I bite him in a million bits,
and I gobble him down,
When they're inside me, where it's dark,
I walk around like Noah's ark."
I stuff my tummy, like a "goop,"
With animal crackers in my soup.



http://www.allmydolls.com/cabinet1mar.jpg



http://www.allmydolls.com/mydollstop/mydolls/doll41/snowwhite1.jpg



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Ambassador_to_Czechoslovakia_Shirley_Temple_199010 25.jpg/250px-Ambassador_to_Czechoslovakia_Shirley_Temple_199010 25.jpg

- and all together..... Black and red, chequered jumper / sweater, black and red necklace.

http://www.sagawards.org/files/images/2005_ShirleyTempleBlackw:Statue.preview.jpg


brown.

And according to Fritz Springmeier, her brainstem was scarred to make her more of a child prodigy or (genius)

So it appears that this whole mind control agenda was going on BEFORE world war II in the U.S., (before the Nazi's came over) as Shirley Temple was a child star in the early thirties...so it must have been going on then also.

Wonder when it got actively going in the U.S.?

It's very strange too how she was always dancing and singing with grown men as opposed to boys her own age in most, if not all of her films.

[mrguitarbear]

this one is also about illuminati cult lifestyle wich goes hand in hand with being a multiple.
http://www.pillboxhat.com/images/joker.jpg


Who is this ?

EDIT : Steve Miller Band. Yeah , weird !

[mrguitarbear]

The Sun Cross is a mystical symbol , combining spirituality ( cross ) and sensuality ( circle ).

Sun Cross wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_cross)

The Tau Cross was an early form of the crucifix.

Tau Cross wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Tau)

[rixxmixxhell]

This thread needs to go into the fucking David Icke Forum hall of ''fame and shame'' !:eek:!

Have Shamed the people exposed here, and is one fuck off thread man. I is thinking we should have sticky, of best threads ever :D

This one I pick. I'm sure many more hide away. Mods should do a search for the best ones. ;)

Rick

[cheeb]

Just An Update On The Satanic School Murder

Harmse apparently tested negative for drugs, but pupils who saw him just before the attack believe he was definitely in an altered state.

"His eyes were not the same eyes, they were big and you just saw the whites. His voice was different," the friend said.

After hearing that police yesterday found spell books, ouija boards and "lots of pentagrams" in Harmse's room - described by officers as "disturbing elements of Satanism" - he said he realised his friend had been involved in something far more sinister than he'd ever suspected.

In the last few weeks, the boys had become interested in the band Slipknot, and Harmse started making masks resembling those worn by the band members.

The friend said each mask had a personality. Some embodied "rape, murder or child abuse".

The one he wore on the day of the attacks, brown with dreadlocks, was called the "maggot mask".

During His "Rampage"

"The whole time he was speaking with a weird voice, almost like the Joker's voice in Batman.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8305/jokerbeheading2af2.jpg

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2379049,00.html

Profile of a rampage killer
* Over 50% of rampage killers have a history of mental illness and around half of these have usually stopped taking their prescribed drugs prior to the rampage killing.

* Historically, most of the rampage killers are white men, although women, blacks and Asians are by no means unrepresented. The racial profile of rampage killers tends to reflect the profile of the general population.

* Many adult rampage killers have high levels of education (over a third of them have post-school qualifications), but most of them are unemployed at the time of the rampage killings.

* Rampage killers almost never try to get away – they mostly commit suicide at the scene of the crime, or allow themselves to be arrested. For this reason their mental state and stability are often unknown and patched together afterwards.

* Adult rampage killers often have a military background and they often use weapons they have obtained legally.

* Rampage killers mostly kill strangers, although the first one or two victims may be known to them.

* In 22 percent of cases a romantic issue, such as a divorce or a breakup, is the precipitating event that sets the rampage killer off. Forty-four percent of rampage killers are set off by an unexpected job losses. There is often prior evidence of rage that then explodes into homicide.

* Schools, malls, campuses, crowded places of work and trains seem to be the places rampage killers choose most frequently.

* Contrary to public perception, few rampage killers (only 6%) show much interest in violent video games.

* Adult rampage killers tend to act alone, unlike adolescents, who often rope in others to help them.

SlipKnot Have "Got Previous"..!!!

Jason Lamar Harris, 25, returns to San Bernardino County Superior Court on Aug. 29, when he will be sentenced to a 50-year-to-life term in the late-night stabbing of friend Terry Ray Taylor, 21, on May 23, 2003.

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4871/slipknot01gv341mn7.jpg
Jason Lamar Harris appears in court early in San Bernardino.

A previous prosecutor in the case, Doug Poston, said at a 2004 court hearing that Harris and Riley lured Taylor to San Bernardino's Perris Hill Park after listening to the heavy-metal band Slipknot.

They particularly listened to "Disasterpiece," which has lyrics discussing slitting a victim's throat, Poston said.

Riley also admitted watching a horror movie titled "Satan's School for Girls" before the slaying, Poston said.

One motive for the killing was Riley's desire to see a dead body, the prosecutor said.

Earlier this week, Riley's attorney, Ed Congdon, said the case previously had a thrill-kill notoriety.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/725/slipknotdv9.jpg

Disasterpiece Lyrics
:Slipknot

Hold on to something.

I wanna slit your throat and fuck the wound
I wanna push my face in and feel the swoon
I wanna dig inside, find a little bit of me
Cuz the line gets crossed when you don't come clean

My wormwood meets your pesticide
You'll never get out, cuz you were never alive
I am infinite, I am the infant finite
Come a little closer and I'll show you why

(NO ONE IS - SAFE)
Noises, noises, people make noises
people make noises when they're sick
Nothing to do except hold on to NOTHING (x2)

How does it feel to be locked inside another dream
That never had a chance of being realized?
What the fuck are you lookin' at?
I'll tell you what you're lookin' at
Everyone you ever fuckin' laughed at

Look in my eyes for the answers - typical
I can feel it underneath like a miracle
Everybody in the world needs more than
Lies and consequences to power them
Once again, it's me and no one else
I can't remember if there was a someone else
It's not mine, it's not fair, it's outta my hands
And it's shaking - you'll never take me

(NO ONE IS - SAFE)
Noises, noises, people make noises
People make noises when they're sick
Nothing to do except hold on to NOTHING (x2)

NOTHING! (x2)

Come on

(HATE) Hate ain't enough to describe me
(SCREAM) Somewhere between screaming and crying
I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be

(WHY) When do I get to know why?
(BITTER) Bitter as the stink of when I try
I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be

NO! (no, no, no, no, no)

Pull your hands away
I'm gone - goodbye - it's so depressing
Withering away
Take a look - inside - my soul is missing
All I have is dead, so I'll take you with me
I Feel like I'm erased - so kill me just in case
I Feel like I'm erased - so kill me just in case
Don't kill me, just in case

(COVET) Everything around me's mine
(STAY) Can't see through the sties in my eyes
I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be

(DOWN) Scratching and clawing all the way
(STAY) You won't let me fucking stay
I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be

(LIVE) Is there another way to live?
(DIE) Cuz it's the only way to die
I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be, come on

No, no, no

I'm not supposed to be here
I'm not supposed to be (x2)

The Drummer From Slipnot
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/383/sid3yg3.jpg

Sid is one crazy dude. He's known to be really sarcastic, and he claims he suffers from 'organic brain syndrome'

Quote - "Wearing this mask prevents the oxygen from going to my skull. I get hallucinations and stuff. Half the time, I don't know what's going on around me. Its up to the clown to intimidate me and keep me in line."

Mask - Sid wears a variety of gas masks and has around 8 which all have names. MEANING: "That's too much of a deeper conversation to get into. You need much more time to ask me a question like that, Another time."

Reminds Me Very Much Of:

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6920/georgeel6.jpg

Barry George has lived a life dominated by fantasy, obsessed with celebrities, single women and weapons.

A jury has decided that he did not carry out one of Britain's most high-profile murders of the last decade - that of Jill Dando,

But they gained an insight into Mr George's bizarre world.

He had always yearned for fame and adopted the names of well-known personalities, his Old Bailey trial was told.

One of those was Paul Gadd, the real name of singer Gary Glitter. He later changed his name again to Steve Majors, an amalgamation of the actor Lee Majors and Steve Austin - the character played by Majors in The Six Million Dollar Man.

Mr George, now 48, also posed as SAS soldier Thomas Palmer, who was involved in the Iranian Embassy siege in 1980. He obtained copies of Mr Palmer's birth and marriage certificates and opened a building society account in his name, prosecutors said.

His number one fixation, however, was with former Queen frontman Freddie Mercury. Mr George claimed to be his cousin and adopted the singer's real surname, calling himself Barry Bulsara.

He even carried - and handed out - business cards suggesting he was associated with Queen's production companies, the court was told.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8305/jokerbeheading2af2.jpg

Calling Cards...!!!

[turquoisefire777]

Just An Update On The Satanic School Murder

Harmse apparently tested negative for drugs, but pupils who saw him just before the attack believe he was definitely in an altered state.

"His eyes were not the same eyes, they were big and you just saw the whites. His voice was different," the friend said.

[B]After hearing that police yesterday found spell books, ouija boards and "lots of pentagrams" in Harmse's room - described by officers as "disturbing elements of Satanism" - he said he realised his friend had been involved in something far more sinister than he'd ever suspected.


in his "Interview with an ex-Vampire" dvd's, Bill Schnoebelen explains it is very unwise to hold any kind of satanic/black magic/occultic books in your possesion, simply because they have "tentacles" (other dimentional spiritual tentacles..?) that reaches out and messes with you.

i'd say part of what drove Harmse insane was demonic entities, seeking to mind control him, origionating from the dark abyss throught the books' presence, and found a weakspot with all the negativity already surrounding him...

[cheeb]

in his "Interview with an ex-Vampire" dvd's, Bill Schnoebelen explains it is very unwise to hold any kind of satanic/black magic/occultic books in your possesion, simply because they have "tentacles" (other dimentional spiritual tentacles..?) that reaches out and messes with you.

i'd say part of what drove Harmse insane was demonic entities, seeking to mind control him, origionating from the dark abyss throught the books' presence, and found a weakspot with all the negativity already surrounding him...

Not Really Saying This Young Man Is Insane...
Just Speculating Whether He Was A Victim Of Some Form Of Trauma Based Mind Control
His Behaviour Is Certainly Dissociated....

Let's See What His Parents Have To Say:

The family 's statement, published by the Afrikaans-daily Beeld, says:

"Our Morné is physically small and frail for his age-group. And he has been bullied throughout his lifetime because of this. We stood up for him whereever we could and also approached the bullies about their behaviour whenever we could. Until Monday-morning we never realised however, that he could ever be capable of such a thing (violence). We are a closeknit, loving family and raise our children with strict but loving rules.'

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Morne Harmse...

He felt so helpless and useless he wanted to take a stand
"Until Monday-morning when we visited him (in police jail), we never realised the truly devastating impact of this physical and emotional bullying he has had to endure throughout his life.

He wanted to scare them, but never to kill:
"He explained to us that he felt so helpless and useless that he wanted to take a stand. He went to school with the intention to 'scare them and hurt them' but he'd never intended to kill anyone. He wanted to express his built-up frustrations and his feelings of helplessness. He wanted to be somebody.

"From birth, Morné was physically small and we got to know him as someone who was quiet and compliant. We deeply regret that we have now had to discover that Morné experimented with satanism and that this had given him the impression that he could draw some form of power from this which would protect him (from his bullies). "His words to us were:

'When I put on the mask, everything became dead-quiet and my body moved. I wanted to stop, but could not.'


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Photo taken by his friend the Saturday night of the mask he allegedly wore on Monday

Our child was still very confused when we saw him in the police cells and we noticed that he only realised by Tuesday-morning that he had actually killed someone, as he was unable to remember the event at all. Two lives have now been destroyed because of this terrible event.'

It Certainly Parallels Other Cases Of M.K.Ultra Mind Control...
Sirah Sirah,
Mark Chapman, Etc......

[cheeb]

Hello!

Can someone please let me know more about the spiral symbolism?

I realize that it is like certain man/boy pedophile symbols.

Is it like a trigger to another dimension (or, dissociation/ over the rainbow) ? (i.e. Mimzy's belly-button?)

Thanks for any ideas that you have!

Soulja Posted It Earlier On This Thread,
I Think It Is Worth A Re-Posting,
So The Noobs To This Thread Understand A Bit More About Butterflys And Spirals......

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1987/fbipedophilesymbolspagels5.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8766/fbiqc3md2.jpg

Probably Doesn't Answer Your Question As To Why These Symbols Are Chosen Though...????

[cheeb]

Here Is A Blatent Example Of Subliminal Suggestion,
Even If You Take Away The Double Heart Logo:

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4329/wallsltlgs7.jpg

:eek:

[turquoisefire777]

It Certainly Parallels Other Cases Of M.K.Ultra Mind Control...
Sirah Sirah,
Mark Chapman, Etc......

hmmm....my guess is that mk ultra mind control is nowadays so interwoven into social conditioning, albeit subtly, from all angles that it's so easy to leave it's imprint apon anyone.

also, concerning the "spirals"...my definition of it is that it symbolises the doorways of lower, negative dimentions through which the demonic forces seek to mind control.

[americana]

also, concerning the "spirals"...my definition of it is that it symbolises the doorways of lower, negative dimentions through which the demonic forces seek to mind control.

Thanks! To you and to everyone else who answered my question.

Therefore, that Mimzy stuffed bunny is pretty frightening.

"They" have chosen to make a toy that a child will "love", that a child will empathize with, care for, and perhaps even think is "real".

But it is not a toy, just like in the movie - - it is a "tool", a trigger . . .

[hunkahunka]

For some reason, the Laura Branigan 'Self Control' video link (Youtube)
has disapppeared from the thread, at least according to my Firefox browser
anyway, so I am posting it here again, just in case:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtUpvJa9FmY

[brown velvet]

The heavy metal band Atreyu has some interesting album covers:

http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/A/Atreyu/Best%20of%20Atreyu/Best%20of%20Atreyu.jpg
rainbow, butterfly bow, blood

Artist (http://matchlight.deviantart.com/art/Lambchop-v2-45970213)'s Comments
Chop you
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Chop Ewe
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Lamb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamb_Chop_%28puppet%29) Chop is a fictional sock puppet sheep created by comedian and ventriloquist Shari Lewis. In 1957, Lamb Chop, a ewe, first appeared with Lewis on Hi Mom, a local morning show that aired on WNBC in New York.

Lamb Chop has been described as a "6-year-old girl, very intuitive and very feisty, a combination of obstinacy and vulnerability...you know how they say fools rush in where wise men fear to go? Well, Lamb Chop would rush in, then scream for help." [1]

During the 1960s, Shari Lewis had her own musical-comedy network television show. After children's programming turned to animation, she continued to perform in a wide range of venues. In 1992, Lamb Chop and Shari began their own PBS children's show, Lamb Chop's Play-Along, an Emmy Award winner for five consecutive years. [2]

Shari Lewis died in 1998 from pneumonia while being treated for ovarian cancer. Two years later, her daughter, producer and writer Mallory Lewis (formerly Tarcher) decided that Lamb Chop should live on for her many fans. Shari's daughter had worked closely with her mother when producing the PBS program.

Characters
Shari Lewis — The puppeteer of the show. She has made Lamb Chop and friends out of house materials, such as socks, cloth, thread, and googly eyes.
Lamb Chop — The main character. Lamb Chop is six years old and very curious.
Hush Puppy — Lamb Chop's 'brother'. He is very concerned about Lamb Chop's choices, and he is also the voice of reason.
Charlie Horse — The other 'brother' of Lamb Chop. He is fluent in German, and has two buck teeth that stand out.
Mallory Lewis — Mallory is the daughter of Shari, and the current puppeteer.


Shari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shari_Lewis) Lewis (born Sonia Phyllis Hurwitz; January 17, 1933 – August 2, 1998) was a Jewish American ventriloquist, puppeteer, and children's television show host, most popular during the 1960s. She is best known as the original puppeteer of Lamb Chop, first appearing on Hi Mom, a local morning show that aired on WNBC in New York.

Lewis' father was a founding member of Yeshiva University in New York City. Her parents encouraged her to perform, and by age 13 her father taught her to perform specialized magic acts. She also received instruction in acrobatics, juggling, piano and violin. She was taught ventriloquism by John W. Cooper.

She also learned how to play the piano and violin at New York's High School of Music and Art, dance at the American School of Ballet, and acting with Sanford Meisner of the Neighborhood Playhouse. She attended Columbia University for one year, then left college to go into show business.





In addition to writing over 60 books for children, she and her second husband wrote an episode for the third and final season of the original Star Trek series entitled "The Lights of Zetar". This was produced in 1968. Lewis had hoped to play the part of "Lt. Mira Romaine," but the role was given to actress Jan Shutan.

Her first husband was Stan Lewis. Her second husband, who survives her, is Jeremy Tarcher, brother of novelist Judith Krantz. Lewis' daughter, Mallory Tarcher, wrote for Lamb Chop's Play-Along and The Charlie Horse Music Pizza.

Jeremy Tarcher has/had a publishing company,with books about paranormal (psychic) phenomena.





Ventriloquism is considered an allied art to the Art of Magic. Famed ventriloquist Shari Lewis was the daughter of professional Abe Horrowitz of New York City.

http://www.houdini.com/houdinigram/pictures/nv1-shari-lewis.jpg



Under Shari (http://www.tvparty.com/lostny2captv.html) Lewis' guidance, "The Kartoon Klub" changed from a loose kid's cartoon show to a fantasy scene.

Set against the backdrop of a mythical kingdom known as Kartoonia, Shari became The Mayoress of Kartoonia, engaging the citizens of Kartoonia (her studio audience) in games, songs, stories, craftmaking, hobbies and informational segments - along with puppet skits with "Taffy Twinkle" and a new puppet character "Randy Rocket".

She would also perform magic tricks and interview members of her studio audience and guest personalities.

Long before he became one of Broadway's most prolific playwrights, Herb Gardner was a comic strip artist for The New York Daily News. Mr. Gardner was invited to appear on 'Kartoon Klub' where he engaged members of the studio audience and home viewers in chalk talks (he would draw pictures on a drawing pad to help illustrate his stories about an unusual group of creatures know as The Nebbishes). :confused:

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Shari happily entertained the citizens Of Kartoonia until she began to notice that most of the cartoons that she was screening were filled with racism and violence. She asked the station's programing director Mr. Fred Thrower if he could permit her to either edit out the offending characters and scenes from the films or replace the cartoons with more appropriate film material. Mr. Thrower refused Ms. Lewis's suggestion and promptly fired her from the show.


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"Phonics (http://www.malibutimes.com/articles/2007/09/05/life_and_arts/art5.txt) 4 Babies: Babies First Words"

starring Mallory Lewis

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What babies....? Oh those 'cute little' catterpillars....?

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http://modculture.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/lambchop.jpg


http://www.applebeecompany.com/images/lambchop-1.jpg

Ok, let's see..... 'finger puppets' and 'lambchop is a puppet' written on the same display cabinet, what message is constantly being given to an abused child who gets called 'lambchop' then? How many get called lambchop? Then the fact there are no legs (she's a puppet) or that you can have a hand shoved up inside you, http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a159/HelenLM/LambChop.jpg

after all, you're just a puppet?


http://www.focusrecord.com/Kick_it_with_Ema/EMA_01_files/Lambchop.jpg

http://www.emerchandise.com/images/p/LMB/pdBGLMB0001.jpg



Say Bahhhhh! Hello, my name is lambchop. (http://waxdippedanimals.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=64&osCsid=66bcc9283805a2afc7bbcc1e50d6e75f)My head reaches approximately 4 inches tall.
I am very cute and I will freshen up any room with your favorite scent!!

Enter your favorite scent in the comments box when checking out and I will be on my way.

I'm waiting...

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The Lambchop (http://lambchop.iwarp.com/lambchop.html) Theorem

By Jeff Vingin


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As we all know, Lambchop and his friends sing a song which has been quoted to "never end." How is this possible? Would the singer of this song become immortal, as to hold true the "neverending" power to which the song has been given by the playalong friends? Perhaps this is true. "Some people" as it is said, began to sing this mystical song. Are they living today, many years since? If so, will they eventually perish, or will they continue living for eternity? As long as one sings the song, will they be immortal? Even if this immortality is granted to the singer, I believe that it is not worth it. With the extreme annoyance the "Song that doesn't end" brings to the singer and those around, I believe that an eternity that "goes on and on my friend" would be inconceivable. Thus I say, Lambchop must be stopped. How one or many would realize this dream is a complete loss to me however. With an immortal power protecting Lambchop and his band of playalong friends, there is no way to stop him as long as he sings the song. Perhaps someone could sneak behind him and gag him, as the other evil fighters proceed to tar and feather the unsuspecting ewe. To provide protection from the other members of Lambchop's band of playalongers, flame throwers could be used. Immortal people don't die, but I'm sure they don't enjoy being roasted. This plan is the best that I could come up with, with the limited resources that we have. Please, help fight the war against song-that-doesn't-endism!

Thank you for your time.


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Artist (http://spunsugar.deviantart.com/art/This-is-the-song-that-never-en-22073526)'s Comments
It goes on and on my friends, just how you started singing it not knowing what it was, and just continue singing it not knowing why because this is the song that never ends...
http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs7/300W/i/2005/235/4/1/This_is_the_song_that_never_en_by_spunsugar.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz6OGVCdov8


Oranges (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranges_and_Lemons) and Lemons is an English nursery rhyme which refers to the bells of several churches, all within or close to the City of London. In its common version, the lyrics refer to, in turn, St Clement Eastcheap, St Martin Orgar, St Sepulchre-without-Newgate (opposite the Old Bailey), St Leonard's, Shoreditch, St Dunstan's, Stepney, and St Mary-le-Bow. Some claim that the St Clement's mentioned is actually St. Clement Danes.[1] Given the present state of St Martin Orgar, St Martin-in-the-Fields makes a convenient stand-in.

The tune is reminiscent of change ringing, and the intonation of each line is said to correspond with the distinct sounds of each church's bells. Today, the bells of St. Clement Danes actually ring out the tune of the rhyme.

It is listed in the Roud Folk Song Index, 13190.

Common lyrics

The most common lyrics as it is used as a counting rhyme are as follows:[2]

"Oranges and lemons", say the bells of St. Clement's
"You owe me three farthings", say the bells of St. Martin's
"When will you pay me?" say the bells of Old Bailey
"When I grow rich", say the bells of Shoreditch
"When will that be?" say the bells of Stepney
"I do not know", says the great bell of Bow
Here comes a candle to light you to bed
And here comes a chopper to chop off your head!
Chip chop chip chop - The last man's dead.



Party game

The song is used in a children's party game with the same name, in which the players file, in pairs, through an arch made by two of the players (made by having the players face each other, raise their arms over their head, and clasp their partners' hands). The challenge comes during the final lines:

Here comes a candle to light you to bed.
Here comes a chopper to chop off your head.
(Chip chop, chip chop, the last man's dead.)
On the last word, the children forming the arch drop their arms to catch the pair of children currently passing through, who are then "out" and must form another arch next to the existing one. In this way, the series of arches becomes a steadily lengthening tunnel through which each set of two players have to run faster and faster to escape in time. The game works best with a pianist to play the tune, so that unpredictable changes of tempo can be introduced.



The rhyme makes an appearance in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four as a snippet of nursery rhyme whose ending Mr Charrington cannot remember. Various characters contribute snippets of the rhyme as the book goes on, and the last lines figure symbolically into the closing events of the second section. It serves as an example of the near-complete eradication of shared culture, and is foreshadowed as being lost forever after the final few people who remember it die.

The lines of "Here comes a candle to light you to bed/Here comes a chopper to chop off your head" appear in the Supertramp song "Brother Where You Bound", which was inspired by Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four.

The rhyme plays a prominent role in the opening scenes of the British black comedy Mumsy, Nanny, Sonny and Girly, in which the eponymous characters take the last three lines of the rhyme literally.

Here Comes a Candle is the title of a book by the fictional author Erasmus Fry in the story "Calliope", from an issue of Neil Gaiman's Sandman series.

An instrumental version of the rhyme's melody appears in the 1973 film The Wicker Man as "Chop Chop". The tune soundtracks a scene in which characters, chanting "chop chop", conduct a ceremony with swords reminiscent of the children's party game mentioned above.

The song "Clash City Rockers" by the Clash feature a parody on the rhyme with a verse altered to reflect the music scene of that time: "'You owe me a move', say the bells of St. Groove/'Come on and show me', say the bells of Old Bowie/'When I am fitter', say the bells of Gary Glitter/'No one but you and I say', the bells of Prince Far-I".

The novel "The First Verse" by Barry McCrea features a mysterious character named Pablo Virgomare whose appearance is marked or brought on by a line from Oranges and Lemons.

"Oranges and Lemons" is the name of an album by British post-punk/alternative-rock band XTC (their most successful album, by chart position).

The song "Funny, Sad and Cruel" by Bloody Dead And Sexy contains the lines "Here comes a candle to light you to bed/Here comes a chopper to chop off your head"

The book "Private Peaceful" by Michael Morpurgo contains numerous references to the song, primarily being the two main characters remembering their older brother and his fondness of the song
The PSP/PS2 game, Silent Hill: Origins, contains a note which says, "Here comes a candle to light you to bed, here comes the Butcher to chop off your head".

The computer game "Half-Life 2" contains various peices of graffiti throughout the gameplay. Among these is a stencil of an orange and a lemon. The game shares many qualities with Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four, including dystopian themes, suggesting that the graffiti is a reference to Orwell's use of the rhyme.


Mumsy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumsy,_Nanny,_Sonny_and_Girly), Nanny, Sonny, and Girly is the name of a 1969 British horror-comedy cult film. Based on a stage play by Maisie Mosco entitled "Happy Family" (which was later adapted into a novella by screenwriter Brian Comport as "Mumsy, Nanny, Sonny, and Girly"), the film is a dark and playful allegory of the breakdown of the nuclear family of the 1950s as a result of the free love movement of the 1960s.

The film's principle characters are the members of a wealthy British family whose names are synonymous with their roles within the family: Mumsy (the mother) (Ursula Howells), Nanny (the maid) (Pat Heywood), Sonny (the son) (Howard Trevor), and Girly (the daughter) (Vanessa Howard). Despite being in their twenties, Sonny and Girly act like pre-pubescent children, dressing in British school uniforms and sleeping in giant cribs in a room full of toys. The family's lives are built around an elaborate roleplaying fantasy, called "The Game," which is structured around a strict set of rules. Because a rich childhood is incomplete without friends (a notion which seems to correlate to the noticeable absence of a father figure), Sonny and Girly regularly seek out loners, hobos, and hippies to bring back to their house to make play "The Game." When the "new friends" refuse, they are "sent to the angels" (murdered). One day, Girly and Sonny kill a male prostitute's latest client and convince him that he was responsible for her death after a night of drinking. They bring the male prostitute (played by Michael Bryant) back to their house, where he seduces each of the women and turns the family in on itself.

Directed by British horror veteran Freddie Francis, the film is arguably one of the great lost films of British horror cinema. Poorly marketed but received with open arms by critics (including a glowing review in Variety), the film (retitled simply Girly during a limited United States release) suffered poor ticket sales, and the distributor didn't see enough promise to try and bring in a larger audience. The result was that hardly anyone knew that the film existed, preventing even a cult following. The movie vanished from theatres on both sides of the Atlantic, received a VHS release that was even more limited than either of its theatrical releases, and quickly slipped into obscurity; during a 2004 Freddie Francis film festival in England, the organizers struggled to find a VHS copy of the film to screen, but couldn't come up with one, and it was briefly thought to be lost to the public, until copies began to surface on the internet in 2004.





Political (http://http://agitprop.typepad.com/agitprop/2007/07/index.html)Theater

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Lambchop: "Mr. President, why are we still in Iraq?"

Bush: "If we don't build $600 million government buildings that get bombed over there, then we can't build ones that get bombed over here!"

Lambchop: "Wha?"

Bush: "September the Eleventh"




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brown.

[hunkahunka]

Alice, Sweet Alice

AN underrated, unsettling tale of murder, suspicion and the macabre, this is a seminal horror film.
It focuses on 12-year-old Alice Spages (Paula Sheppard) who is accused of murdering her younger sister Karen (Brooke Shields) before her First Communion and then of viciously stabbing her Aunt Annie.


http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa185/Kikabi/AliceSweetAlice.jpg

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the whole film is on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etidp8X9354

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Brooke Shields in Alice, Sweet Alice




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Brook Shields

Career

Modeling career

Shields' career as a model began in the mid 1960s as an infant. Her first job was for Ivory soap shot by Francesco Scavullo. She continued as a successful child model, with model agent Eileen Ford, in her Lifetime Network biography, stating that she started her children's division just for Brooke. In early 1980 (at age 14), Shields was the youngest fashion model to ever appear on the cover of the top fashion publication Vogue magazine. Later that same year, Shields appeared in controversial print and TV ads for Calvin Klein jeans[3]. The TV ad included her saying the famous tagline, "You want to know what comes between me and my Calvins? Nothing."[4][5]

video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK2VZgJ4AoM

By the age of 16, Shields had become one of the most recognizable faces in the world because of her dual career as a provocative fashion model and controversial child actress. TIME magazine reported, in its February 9, 1981 cover story, that her day rate as a model was $10,000. In 1983 Shields appeared on the cover of the September issue of Paris Vogue, the October and November issues of American Vogue and the December edition of Italian Vogue.[6]


Film career

Shields' first major film role was her 1978 appearance in Louis Malle's Pretty Baby, a movie in which she played a child living in a brothel (and in which there were numerous nude scenes). Because she was only 12 when the film was released, and possibly 11 when it was filmed, questions were raised about child pornography.[7][8][9

the whole movie is there on Youtube. Here is part 1
Pretty Baby (1978) 1/11:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej3m_eYt7bQ




Episode 506: Brooke Shields
From Muppet Wiki
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/thumb/6/6e/TMSBrooke.jpeg/300px-TMSBrooke.jpeg
Brooke Shields makes friends with Mad Hatter Gonzo and the March Hare.

Fozzie Bear plays the Tin Woodsman.

The Muppet Show
Guest Starring Brooke Shields
Production Dates April 7-10, 1980
Air Date October 1980
Home Video Best of the Muppet Show

Brooke stars as Alice in the Muppet production of Alice in Wonderland. The on-stage zaniness can't match the usual backstage chaos -- Fozzie thinks he's going to play the Tin Woodman, and Miss Piggy (scheduled to play the Queen of Hearts) is hoping to take over as Alice.

(note the raincoat-yellow dress) Brooke Shields plays the part of Hannah Montana's mother , btw.

[lizzy]

This thread blows my mind , turns my stomach and educates me. Thankyou.

[hunkahunka]

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZCTS6PAJL._SS500_.jpg
Live Through This : Now where have I seen that phrase before?

The Hazing was originally made in 1977, and also went by the title 'The Curious Case of the Campus Corpse'
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076131

http://www.critcononline.com/images/campus%20corpse%20vestron%20vhs%20front.jpg

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[hunkahunka]

Brooke Shields is whistling 'Clementine' in that wierd Calvin ad, so I looked
up the lyrics:


Clementine- Barker Bradford, 1885

Original Version

In a cavern, in a canyon,
Excavating for a mine
Dwelt a miner forty niner,
And his darling Clementine.

Oh my darling, oh my darling,
Oh my darling, Clementine!
Thou art lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

Light she was and like a fairy,
And her shoes were number nine,
Herring boxes, without topses,
Sandals were for Clementine.

Oh my darling, oh my darling,
Oh my darling, Clementine!
Thou art lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

Drove she ducklings to the water
Ev'ry morning just at nine,
Hit her foot against a splinter,
Fell into the foaming brine.

Oh my darling, oh my darling,
Oh my darling, Clementine!
Thou art lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

Ruby lips above the water,
Blowing bubbles, soft and fine,
But, alas, I was no swimmer
So I lost my Clementine.

Oh my darling, oh my darling,
Oh my darling, Clementine!
Thou art lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

How I missed her! How I missed her,
How I missed my Clementine,
But I kissed her little sister,
I forgot my Clementine.

Oh my darling, oh my darling,
Oh my darling, Clementine!
Thou art lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine


Children's (or Scout's) Version:

In a cavern, in a canyon
Excavating for a mine
Lived a miner forty-niner
And his daughter, Clementine

Oh, my darling, oh, my darling
Oh, my darling Clementine
You are lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

Light she was and like a fairy
And her shoes were number nine
Herring boxes without topses
Sandals were for Clementine

Oh, my darling, oh, my darling
Oh, my darling Clementine
You are lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

Drove her ducklings to the water
Every morning just at nine
Hit her foot against a splinter
Fell into the foaming brine

Oh, my darling, oh, my darling
Oh, my darling Clementine
You are lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

Ruby lips above the water
Blowing bubbles soft and fine
But, alas, I was no swimmer
So I lost my Clementine

Oh, my darling, oh, my darling
Oh, my darling Clementine
You are lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

Then the miner, forty-niner
Soon began to peak and pine
Thought he oughta join his daughter
Now he's with his Clementine

Oh, my darling, oh, my darling
Oh, my darling Clementine
You are lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

There's a churchyard on the hillside
Where the flowers grow and twine
There grow roses, mongst the posies
Fertilized by Clementine

Oh, my darling, oh, my darling
Oh, my darling Clementine
You are lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

In my dreams she still doth haunt me
Robed in garments soaked in brine
Though in life I used to hug her
Now she's dead, I draw the line

Oh, my darling, oh, my darling
Oh, my darling Clementine
You are lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

Now you kids [or Scouts] may learn the moral
Of this little tale of mine
Artificial respiration
Would have saved my Clementine

Oh, my darling, oh, my darling
Oh, my darling Clementine
You are lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

How I missed her, how I missed her
How I missed my Clementine
Till I kissed her little sister
And forgot my Clementine

Oh, my darling, oh, my darling
Oh, my darling Clementine
You are lost and gone forever
Dreadful sorry, Clementine

[hunkahunka]

http://www.nealosis.com/demo/playlists/album/art/580.jpg
Megadeth Album: Youthanasia

http://forjandouncamino.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/megadeth-united_abominations-frontal.jpg
here's the back of the same record:
http://forjandouncamino.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/megadeth-united_abominations-trasera.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/Countdown.jpg
this 1992 album is called 'Countdown to Extinction' , but notice the baby bones on the dinner plate, and how much he looks like this guy:

http://designarchives.aiga.org/img/media/13390_m.jpg
old man from 'Heart Shaped Box' video , by Nirvana

http://api.ning.com/files/ONcVagOolwR-PAYIGkEAkQTWDV4cU8b2QFjsKGE0-yoFFFTBTfJEQ-pAybAolq6fw-BlKd1tfNNNT97oOCVVr84F3OCn6b63/MegadethRustInPeace.jpg
emerald

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0002SPQ1I.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://nuclear.ucdavis.edu/~rpicha/personal/megadeth/cp_500.jpg
one eye marked, third eye punctured

http://nuclear.ucdavis.edu/~rpicha/personal/megadeth/cw_500.jpg

http://nuclear.ucdavis.edu/~rpicha/personal/megadeth/ht_500.jpg
and check this out, 'hidden treasures', and the area highlighted is the desert near
Mesa, where the bikers tortured and killed that woman.

[hunkahunka]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Megadeth-Risk.jpg
note the pyramid shape on the trap, and the cheese on the capstone

http://www.roots-and-branches.com/Magnum%20Alice%20CD.jpg
Magnum Album

http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/6/0/6/f/3/606f35ad6a91b38ac96e39ced2076a19.jpg
another fleur de lis bedspread (with hexagons too)

http://img1.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/9/6/b/c/c/96bccf7487daa4f521a354ec1862cb9e.jpg
mask

[hunkahunka]

http://www.puffin.co.uk/static/cs/uk/15/images/sleepwalking.jpg

http://syndetics.com/index.aspx?isbn=0385901925/LC.JPG&client=fsc01&type=xw10
Morgan sets Fleshmarket in nineteenth-century Edinburgh, Scotland. Robbie Anderson is a fourteen year old whose mother has just died after surgery. He and his little sister, Essie, are quickly abandoned by their distraught father and left to make their own ways in the world. Essie becomes a beggar, while Robbie works as a delivery boy. As life becomes more difficult for him, Robbie develops a growing hatred for Dr. Robert Knox, the surgeon who operated on his late mother. In addition to becoming convinced that Knox could have saved his mother, Robbie also discovers that the doctor is buying corpses to dissect, and some of these corpses are of murder victims. "Morgan's story is fast paced and absorbing," Anna M. Nelson wrote in School Library Journal. Betty Carter, reviewing the novel for Horn Book, wrote that "the fully realized setting and the character development of a young man facing interenal demons ... make this novel memorable."

[hunkahunka]

http://thewizardofoz.info/pics/muppetwizarddvd.jpg
Plot summary for
The Muppets' Wizard of Oz (2005) (TV)

In The Muppets' Wizard of Oz, Dorothy Gale (Ashanti) lives with her Auntie Em (Queen Latifah) and Uncle Henry (David Alan Grier) in a trailer park in Kansas. Dorothy has dreams of becoming a famous singer, but when a tornado hits Kansas and Dorothy rushes to save Toto, her prawn (she couldn't afford a dog), she is whisked away to Oz where she meets the four witches (all played by Miss Piggy) and the Munchkins of Oz (the rats). On her way to see the Wizard, she meets the Scarecrow (Kermit), the Tin Thing (Gonzo), and the Cowardly Lion (Fozzie) who all wish to have something given by the wizard. On their way to Emerald City, they are captured by the Wicked Witch of the West (of course, Miss Piggy) and her flying monkeys (other muppets). When they finally make it back to Emerald City, the Wizard is really a man (Jeffrey Tambor) from Hollywood. But he "grants" their wishes, but what they wanted they already had inside (there's a lesson there). When Dorothy finally is back in Kansas, she becomes what she had wanted, a famous singer and on the Muppets Star
http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/a/Ashanti/sq_muppets_wizard_of_oz.jpg

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2005_The_Muppets__Wizard_of_Oz/Thumb/005MWO_Quentin_Tarantino_008.jpg
Quentin Tarantino as Himself in The Muppets' Wizard of Oz (2005)

http://celeb.wohoo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/cove-album-cover-ashanti.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417K1DY4B2L._SS500_.jpg

apologies if this has already been posted .

[americana]

http://celeb.wohoo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/cove-album-cover-ashanti.jpg
.


This album cover has an intriguing precedent in surrealist art. Below is Man Ray's 1926 photograph, Noir et Blanc
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/03/17/dd_all_weston17f.jpg

[schaff]

I have been following this thread and just have to say how much hard work has gone into it keep the info goin.Heres someone who might be worth looking into her wikipedia is bad enough .Her fathers also a bit dodgy me thinks/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatum_O'Neal

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/06/02/article-1023570-06402B480000044D-764_468x646.jpg

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/25/150px-Tatumonealoscar.jpg

[brown velvet]

Despite being in their twenties, Sonny and Girly act like pre-pubescent children, dressing in British school uniforms and sleeping in giant cribs in a room full of toys. The family's lives are built around an elaborate roleplaying fantasy, called "The Game," which is structured around a strict set of rules. Because a rich childhood is incomplete without friends (a notion which seems to correlate to the noticeable absence of a father figure), Sonny and Girly regularly seek out loners, hobos, and hippies to bring back to their house to make play "The Game."
brown.

King Baby is the fifteenth episode in the fifth season of the popular American crime drama CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, set in Las Vegas, Nevada.

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/23%2008%2008%20CSI%20king%20baby/KingbabyCSI01.jpg

Further investigation into Eiger's infantilism lead them to discover his secret files on various people, including the sheriff, judges, and various sports stars. They also discover that he was administered LSD via an enema as part of his play routine. Examination of oil found on the drive leads them back to singer Tanya Rollins, who works for Magli. Tanya was coerced into acting as Eiger's maid after he took her child away and kept promising to return him only if she continues to be his maid. She administered the LSD and watched him accidentally fall to his death during a bad trip.

Reception
Writer Jerry Stahl's episodes of CSI tend to deal with transgressive topics[1] and this episode was controversial for dealing with infantilism. The Parents Television Council, which has frequently criticized CSI for its violent content, named this episode the worst television show of the week it aired[2][3] and launched a campaign for its members to complain to the Federal Communications Commission over the indecent content of this episode[4]; to date, nearly 13,000 PTC members complained to the FCC about the episode.[5]

"King Baby" had the second highest viewing figures of the season, 30.7 million, only beaten by Stahl's other episode, "Ch-Ch-Changes", whose 31.5 million viewers made it the most watched CSI episode to date.[1]

Check out the titles of these CSI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CSI:_Crime_Scene_Investigation_episodes) shows.....

Paraphilic infantilism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilic_infantilism) is a paraphilia characterized by the desire to wear diapers and be treated as an infant[1] or toddler. One who engages in infantilistic play is known as an adult baby (AB). About one in three adult babies is also a diaper lover (DL),[2][3] so they are collectively known as AB/DLs.[4] The majority of infantilists are heterosexual males[5][6].

Paraphilic infantilism and diaper fetishes differ in self-image and the focus of attention. However, they can coexist in individuals and have some similarities in practice. Neither include a sexual preference for children. There is no singular, archetypical infantilism, but a range. Some fantasize about being free of guilt, responsibility, or control while others might not. Some act indistinguishably from a baby at times, while others practice in a way that would be unnoticed by passers by on the street. The desires and tastes of infantilists vary around common themes of diapers and babyhood.

Other contrasts

Pedophilia
Confusing infantilism with pedophilia is a common misunderstanding.[21] Pedophilia is a sexual preference for pre-pubescent children.[22][23] In contrast, infantilists have a desire to be infants themselves, and those with a diaper fetish have a sexual interest in diapers. Generally, they have ordinary heterosexual or homosexual sexual experiences otherwise. Inside the AB/DL communities, a sharp distinction is observed. Most AB/DL organizations will expel child molesters.[24]

Other infantilisms
'Paraphilic infantilism' is usually shortened to 'infantilism.' This can lead to some misunderstandings, since 'infantilism' can also mean 'lacking development.' Mental retardation involves never having achieved an average maturity, in contrast to adult babies, who actively set their maturity aside. In turn, psychosexual infantilism, a term coined by Freud, referred to those who haven't "matured" through the psychosexual stages into heterosexuality. Psychosexual infantilism includes paraphilic infantilism as well as other paraphilias and sexual orientations. Finally, regression is a broad term with many meanings. Adult babies regress, but those who regress aren't necessarily adult babies.

Coercion
Force or coercion is sometimes present in AB/DL fantasies. This can range from the inclusion of S&M or B&D play into AB scenarios through to more specifically AB scenarios such as the Diaper Discipline, or Petticoat Punishment in which a supposed older child or adult is regressed into a baby-state as punishment for misdemeanors. This can sometimes form a validation activity, where the AB mitigates their guilt for having AB desires with the fact that they are only in nappies as a punishment.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEzUrRYCqUw



http://lh6.ggpht.com/_upwwIz3tQl0/R_MP_X8B5FI/AAAAAAAAAIA/NCsA8Nma34I/alice-feed.jpg

http://americansfortruth.com/uploads/2007/05/iml-2006-038.jpg


http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs32/300W/f/2008/219/9/9/She_Needs_Her_Bear_by_FavSelector.jpg
She Needs Her Bear


http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs26/300W/f/2008/138/d/8/Old_man_baby_by_chris_ellis.jpg

Artist (http://chris-ellis.deviantart.com/art/Old-man-baby-85926159)'s Comments
Yeh I know.......WTF?? a question I'm currently asking myself to be fair. My two friends have a crazy band that take the piss nonstop, they wanted a mascot or something for their website, and this is what they said:

"What about an old man wearing a nappy and a bonnet, and maybe like a rattle or something like that?"




http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/title/2660-en.jpg

http://nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/img/nk_mad_love.jpg


In 2007 Eat Me, Drink Me (www.nachtkabarett.com/EatMeDrinkMe/Heart) brought with it, for the first time in nearly over ten years, a symbol Manson adopted to represent himself with that did not have an immediate and apparent deeper connotation to the occult, mock-fascism or an artistic movement. It was minimalistically a roughly drawn heart which spiraled at its center. Manson revealed that it was an homage to Evan Rachel Wood for inspiring him with love and creative drive which was the impetus needed to create the album. He elaborated that as it was tattooed on his left inner wrist, if he ever was driven again to the depths of suicide, he was nearly in the throes of prior to this, it would be an omnipresent reminder that he would have to "break a heart" in order to fatally severe an artery.
Aside from the raw nature and purpose it symbolically serves, several similar visual representations exist which range from the logo of an ice cream company to the symbol of a paedophilic organization in support of relationships between a man and young girl (which can, in part, be seen as a joke even if coincidental given Manson's half-facetious Lolita references toward he and Evan's obvious age difference). Probably the most likely and closest connotation which fits the heart logo as used by Manson is that which illustrates the cover of the 1935 film, Mad Love.

As is seen via the cover art (which is the only appearance of the heart, not in the film itself) a very similar representation of the heart logo, and not only the heart itself but also the placement atop the eye a la the artwork to Eat Me, Drink Me of Manson with heart shaped pupils and of course the song 'Heart Shaped Glasses'. The leading role in the film is that of Peter Lorre, who plays a mad scientist who can create life itself but cannot create love without the woman he so desires. This of course can be seen as a microcosm for Manson, as the artist, who also brings to life his creations but cannot create love without another complimental half to hold.


http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/img/evan_rachel_wood_heart_shaped_glasses_lolita.jpg


excellent site for Manson (www.nachtkabarett.com/EatMeDrinkMe#heart) info





http://lh4.ggpht.com/beccacolebank/RdpB-Hn5zUI/AAAAAAAAHW4/1LmiT26mUMI/galleryfurn2004.jpg?imgmax=512

http://lh4.ggpht.com/beccacolebank/RdpB-Hn5zUI/AAAAAAAAHW4/1LmiT26mUMI/galleryfurn2004.jpg?imgmax=512

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/23%2008%2008%20CSI%20king%20baby/aliceverysmall.jpg


http://www.adrants.com/images/disney_chair_dvd.jpg



http://www.relishmagazine.com/website/images/dvds/october2005/cinderella300.jpg
- note the spirals
http://www.tescodvdrental.com/tesco/images/products/2/22142-large.jpg
- note the butterfly with Bambi

http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Commentary/Live_Action_Walt/MaryPoppins.jpg
- note the umberella, shadow, carousel, entrance back to reality via Mary Poppins




site (http://www.sucksorrules.com/battles/detail/people/115038/battle-of-the-aduly-babies/)
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/23%2008%2008%20CSI%20king%20baby/Kingbaby01.jpg

Daddy's Girls (http://wizbangblue.com/2007/09/24/daddys-girls-atchisons-preference-for-adult-babies-revealed.php): Atchison's Preference For 'Adult Babies' Revealed

http://wizbangblue.com/images/2007/09/daddys_girls_atchisons_fetish_for_adult_babies_rev ealed_1/katie_clip2.jpg

When I was in my teens babysitting I starred at a diaper long enough untill I put it on. I have loved wearing diapers ever since. My parents found my diapers a few times and had "the talk" with me. I told them I liked wearing them and playing baby when nobody was around. They wanted me to see a shrink and get help and I told them I was perfectly normal. I showed them stuff on the net that there were other people like me, that it was like bondage or leather or wips and chains and stuff.



Case presentation from November 2003 American Journal of Psychiatry (http://hotmedicalnews.com/adult_baby_symdrome.php)
Mr. A, a 35-year- old single Caucasian man, consulted a psychiatrist with a complaint that "I am supposed to be a 35-year-old, but I want to be a baby. I won't ever get married or have kids if I am stuck as a baby." His desire to be a baby interfered with his interpersonal relationships.

Dressed like a baby
The patient arrived for his appointment dressed as a child in Winnie the Pooh overall shorts and a Winnie the Pooh shirt. He spoke in a soft, childlike voice and had a strong odor of baby powder. He had a pacifier in his pants pocket and a diaper bag which contained a baby bottle, bib, baby blanket, and adult diapers.


What type of psychiatric disorder is the adult baby syndrome?
The wish to be treated as a baby is reminiscent of the sadomasochistic wish to be abused by a dominating individual. The adult baby syndrome might best be considered a paraphilia. A paraphilia is a form of sexual deviance involving sexual arousal by unusual and bizarre imagery or acts. The acts and imagery might include inanimate objects, pain and humiliation, children, or other unwilling or unsuitable partners. Voyeurism and pedophilia are examples of paraphilias.

Professional help is not always helpful
You may wonder what happened to Mr. A. Don't you suspect that his life has probably not changed much? Professional help is not always helpful, and the physician should obey Hippocrates' injunction "to cure sometimes, to relieve often, to comfort always."



least favourite sport (http://journals.aol.com/dcsportsguy/mrirrelevant/entries/2007/05/14/diaper-drinking-is-my-new-least-favorite-sport/3378)

http://www.aolcdn.com/aolpolltool/diaper-bowl

1. Everyone puts on a pair of Depend adult diapers and starts or, more likely, continues drinking.

2. Those who soil their diapers are disgusting and disqualified.

3. The last player to refrain from pottying himself wins, meaning he gets to put his clothes back on and go to the bathroom like a big boy.


Site (www.diaper-blog.com/2007_03_01_diaper-blog_archive.html)

http://www.airoliver.de/save/Media/Shop/excellentm.jpg

Site (http://aby.com/apm/home.php)

http://aby.com/apm/custom/images/intro-ty1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b189/bskwire/Horsie2.jpg

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs29/300W/f/2008/148/1/4/14af166fde575494f58cda41f0c460c7.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_upwwIz3tQl0/R_MP_H8B5DI/AAAAAAAAAHw/sdpIpPyjMp8/adult-baby-girls-alexa-bed.jpg


Here... (http://www.heidilynnsworld.com/VM.html)
http://heidilynnsworld.com/myPictures/victhumb.jpg
"Do you wear diapers?"




ABDL (Adult Baby Diaper Lovers)
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/23%2008%2008%20CSI%20king%20baby/ABDLadvertonsite.jpg


Adult Crib (www.abdlmall.com/vc/)

http://www.abdlmall.com/vc/Images/Products/000ex4zc%20tiger%20maple.jpg

Inspired curved crown tops with spirals and trim.


site... (www.abdlmall.com/vc/Tigger_Soccer-details.aspx)
http://www.abdlmall.com/vc/Images/Products/Tigger%20Soccer.jpg
Tigger Soccer
A Baby Body shirt (adult baby onesie) is an indispensable part of every baby's wardrobe. This 100% Cotton snap-crotch adult baby body shirt helps keep diapers and plastic pants from peeking out when you bend over and minimize that droopy bottom.



http://www.abdlmall.com/images/productimages/ABCharm/Playclothes/JS002YellowSitting.jpg

http://www.abdlmall.com/images/productimages/ABCharm/Playclothes/JS001PinkSitting.jpg



Bad editing? No editing? Clever editing?
http://img31.echo.cx/img31/1953/parentsmagazine3lq.gif




Giant (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=giant+garden+games&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=689512329&ref=pd_sl_2poyqlnau1_b) Garden Ludo Party Game [Toy]
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bnvMsJJcL._SL160_AA115_.jpg


GIANT CHESS (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=giant+garden+games&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=689512329&ref=pd_sl_2poyqlnau1_b)/ GARDEN CHESS/ BRAND NEW
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41WweZQ2RuL._SL160_AA115_.jpg


Giant Snakes (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=giant+garden+games&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=689512329&ref=pd_sl_2poyqlnau1_b) and Ladders (507)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51TXyTML90L._SL160_AA115_.jpg


New Giant Ludo (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=giant+garden+games&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=689512329&ref=pd_sl_2poyqlnau1_b) Outdoor Pub Family Garden Board Game
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41S1AET0GWL._SL160_AA115_.jpg


Kingfisher giant 4 in a row (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=giant+garden+games&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=689512329&ref=pd_sl_2poyqlnau1_b)garden game
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31gLZ0iMl2L._SL160_AA115_.jpg


- please note the winnie the Pooh Disney character in the background
http://bigbabyzone.com/acatalog/adult_baby_highchair_640.jpg

adult baby high (http://bigbabyzone.com/acatalog/adult_baby_nursery_furniture.html) chair
http://bigbabyzone.com/acatalog/adult_baby_highchair_245.jpg

adult baby cots (http://bigbabyzone.com/acatalog/adult_baby_cot_245.jpg)
- note Tinkerbell on the bed cover
http://bigbabyzone.com/acatalog/adult_baby_cot_640.jpg

adult baby PVC changing mat
http://bigbabyzone.com/acatalog/adult_baby_changing_mat_245.jpg

adult baby nappy pins
http://bigbabyzone.com/acatalog/adult_baby_diaper_pins.jpg

Happiness is a Full Nappy
Adult baby t-shirt
http://bigbabyzone.com/acatalog/Tshirts20004.jpg

Please notice the continual flashing icons on the left hand side of the site... in fact the whole site constantly uses flahing lights

Winnie the Pooh in the background
http://www.diaperstation.com/images/picture_gallery/diaper_girl005.jpg
site (www.diaperstation.com/photos.html)

http://www.diaperstation.com/images/photos/nuk5.jpg

Big Baby Binky (www.diaperstation.com/accessories.htm) / Pacifier

Finally DiaperStation is pleased to introduce a pacifier that’s just the right size for Big Babies. Now we have the MedicPro, a pacifier with an adult sized nipple made from genuine amber rubber. Commonly referred to as the Nuk 5 pacifier, the Medic Pro L is here! These adult size pacifiers are offered only in white. So if your feeling blue or just miss your binky, grab one now and enjoy!


- note, the majority of infantilists are heterosexual males, that's what the written word keeps saying to me, all the way through the research involved in this post, yet the images are saying something else entirely:confused: the vast majority are of young women, puts a whole different slant on the subject for me.
The giant games are to try and help illustrate the problems of innocent and fun games and toys, that if the 'adult / handler' wishes too, he can drug, abuse and confuse the young child in to not being able to comprehend reality from any vantage, all the 'toys' become huge.... just after you have drunk some form of drug.... welcome to Wonderland, Alice.....
The amount of sites I found selling 'adult nursery furniture' was surprising, there is obviously a huge market over and beyond a genuine need for adult nappies. Access to this kind of furniture is now easy, put it in a mocked up nursery and let the mind controlling abuse begin..... A giant sized Nursery....


Harry Enfield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRbXWiXe7wk
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/23%2008%2008%20CSI%20king%20baby/Lulu01.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUyUPioZ2L0
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/23%2008%2008%20CSI%20king%20baby/Lulu02.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/23%2008%2008%20CSI%20king%20baby/Lulu03.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/23%2008%2008%20CSI%20king%20baby/Lulu04.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/23%2008%2008%20CSI%20king%20baby/Lulu05.jpg



brown.

[soulja]

i don't know what to say, it's just so weird.

but i fail to see the MK connection. i mean yea child alters and all that but these people as far as i understand it always want to be babies.
they're not really child alters but adults who want to be babies for some perverted reason. no ?

[brown velvet]

i don't know what to say, it's just so weird.

but i fail to see the MK connection. i mean yea child alters and all that but these people as far as i understand it always want to be babies.
they're not really child alters but adults who want to be babies for some perverted reason. no ?

Hiya :)

was that a direct question to me? lol
Hope so, coz here's my reply.
This is what Fritz refers to as 'layering'
the genuine 'fetish' as a balance to allow adult control over another adult, age regressed / DID in to another 'baby' state.

Most MC victims are female, one corner of the market is documented as a hetrosexual blah blah blah, behind that are the perverts who want that myth to continue, enabling their perversions (mind control of adult women, who act appropriate to hypnotised / traumtised age)
You know the babies in the bloodline families are DID often before birth, to be able to 'hone in' on whatever age you desire, the one that was hours old and abuse the adult female body and get the reactions of an hour old baby, or age up to an adorable 3 year old and anticipate the reactions of this adult female body, reacting as a 3 year old.
The huge market out there with so much female imagery leads me to think that the huge market is funded by handlers, groups etc....

has that helped? Be sure to tell me if it hasn't:p


brown.

[soulja]

did help a bit yea :D

makes sense what you said about layering and created/funded markets for cover reasons by handlers, groups, etc..

[soulja]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/1zg7pk7.jpg
second personality/dark alter mirror theme

haven't seen the movie but after watching the trailer i say the cover is spot on.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1219820/trailers-screenplay-vi2715549977

[hunkahunka]

http://thelostmovieposters.com/assets/images/sybil.jpg

http://i2.iofferphoto.com/img/item/318/840/61/o_SYBIL.jpg
Sybil, starring Sally Field

http://photos18.flickr.com/23115023_f3fc5dd07a.jpg
Sally Field
http://img217.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=19613_dolls_122_559lo.jpg
Kurt Cobain

http://www.jasonpaulcollum.com/reviews/homeholiday_lrg.jpg
Home for the Holidays, starring Sally Field and yellow raincoat

http://www.thegreatescapeonline.com/nonmuze/images/SPECIALTYMAG999900495002MAGAZINEBC.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2472917527_71cbf7a6a6_o.jpg
Sally Field played 'The Flying Nun', another 'Mary Poppins' archetype


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5a/Mrs_Doubtfire.jpg/215px-Mrs_Doubtfire.jpg
Sally Field in 'Mrs. Doubtfire', Robin Williams plays cross-dressing nanny/Mary Poppins archetype



http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5148FAR6MZL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Alice Hardy

Alice Hardy [1] is a character in the film Friday the 13th, played by Adrienne King. She is one of seven camp counselors hired by Steve Christy, with whom she is in a romantic relationship, to reopen and work at Camp Crystal Lake. On Friday the 13th, the counselors are murdered one-by-one by a prowler. Alice is eventually left alone, the sole survivor, and is discovered by Pamela Voorhees. Mrs. Voorhees explains to Alice how her young son Jason drowned at the camp several years ago, and reveals herself to be the killer. After a long chase and a brief struggle, Alice is finally able to decapitate Mrs. Voorhees with a machete, before passing out in a canoe on the lake. There, she suffers a nightmare in which Jason's decayed corpse drags her underwater. When the police arrive and she tells them her story, they explain that they did not find a boy, to which she replies "Then he's still there..." [2] Alice makes a brief reappearance in the opening scene of Friday the 13th Part 2, where she is stabbed in the temple in her apartment by an adult Jason Voorhees, who evidently survived his childhood drowning and had tracked her down. Later in the movie, Paul explains how Alice went missing and blood was found in her apartment. Her decomposed body is later seen in Jason's shack.

http://www.morethings.com/music/alice_cooper/!alice-cooper-baby-doll.jpg

"He's Back (The Man Behind the Mask)" is a song from American shock rock musician Alice Cooper's 1986 album Constrictor, and the theme song of Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives, a slasher film and sixth part of the Friday the 13th film series released in the same year.

[hunkahunka]

http://www.talking-book-store.com/images/lg_sn9391.jpg

[hunkahunka]

Sybil



Sally Field starred in the title role, with Joanne Woodward playing the part of Sybil's psychiatrist, Cornelia B. Wilbur. Based on the book Sybil by Flora Rheta Schreiber, the movie dramatizes the life of a shy young graduate student, Sybil Dorsett (in real life, Shirley Ardell Mason), suffering from dissociative identity disorder as a result of the psychological trauma she suffered as a child.

Joanne Woodward had previously portrayed a character with multiple personalities in the 1957 film version of The Three Faces of Eve and won the Academy Award for her performance.

http://torrents.bittorrent.com/20th-century-fox/2e5f42e253734cae7702b9cfe3dba8bad3ae77ef/xlarge.jpg



The Three Faces of Eve is a 1957 book and film, loosely based on the true story of Chris Costner-Sizemore, a woman who suffered from dissociative identity disorder.[1]
http://friendsofthemiller.com/db5/00409/friendsofthemiller.com/_uimages/MillerMarquee1.JPG


The film stars Joanne Woodward, David Wayne, Lee J. Cobb, Nancy Kulp and Alistair Cooke. It was filmed at the Medical College of Georgia in Augusta, Georgia.

The original book was rushed into publication and film rights immediately sold to director Nunnally Johnson in 1957, apparently to capitalize on public interest in multiple personalities following the publication of Shirley Jackson's 1954 novel The Birds' Nest, which was made into the 1957 film Lizzie.[2]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2402/1993548806_3c85471556.jpg?v=0

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d7/Lizzie1957MovieAd.jpg/200px-Lizzie1957MovieAd.jpg

http://rawartint.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/thebirdsnest.jpg

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n0/n691.jpg

http://blog.afi.com/100movies/user-uploads/post1338.jpg




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[hunkahunka]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Sally_Field_at_Expo_67_waving.jpg
Sally Field waves to fans at Expo '67

Sally Margaret Field was born November 6, 1946 in Pasadena, California. Her mother Margaret was an actress who played in "B" movies for Paramount Pictures. Her father, Richard was a Captain in the U.S. Army. According to Sally, "When I was born, the doctor looked at my mother and said 'Congratulations, you have an actor!'" Sally's parents divorced in 1950. Her mother later married Jock Mahoney of "Tarzan" fame. Sally has a half sister, Princess Mahoney and an older brother.

http://www.erichscholz.com/uploaded_images/posterX-755957.jpg
Margaret Field stars in 'The Man from Planet X'
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517TQQ6R6ZL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7kEf-rW7ks


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/maquineta/ManFromPlanetX.jpg

interesting that Walter Bowart , expert on mind control, mentions that so-called alien abductions are really CIA
mind control traumas/experiments disguised to be recalled as alien abductions.

[soulja]

interesting that Walter Bowart , expert on mind control, mentions that so-called alien abductions are really CIA
mind control traumas/experiments disguised to be recalled as alien abductions.

springmeier said the same.

Fritz has amassed a great deal of evidence that the elite have human-built Flying Saucers. Notice how the controlled media always link aliens with Flying Saucers and UFOs? This is an entire book in itself, however, the bottom line is that at least most (if not all) of the alien abductions are simply part of the NWO s mind-control

It is obvious that for various reasons (including the goals set down in the secret Iron Mountain government report), the government (including cooperating agencies like NASA) decided to use an alien abduction theme rather than a Satanic Ritual Abuse theme to their mind-control programming. The major differences in the programming methodology is that the blood rituals of the SRA are no longer used. The reason why blood rituals are no longer needed is that the high-tech harmonic machines (which implant thoughts-see chap. 6) and other high-tech methods eliminate the need for the blood traumas. The victims of alien abductions are taken at random, where the Illuminati victims are abducted more frequently around ritual dates. The person who believes in UFOs and aliens is going to receive the same type of treatment as those who believe in Satanic Ritual Abuse. The legal system and society at large are conditioned to treat them as nuts. This protects their abusers


The Programmers and the Handlers are setting themselves up as gods, or Almighty God, or as a being from a superior race of aliens, such as Koldasians or Pleiadians. Interestingly, if one listens, these different alien races make conflicting claims for whatever good the earth has. However, those of us who have followed the Monarch programming know that these aliens are just men who do the Programming. Time-life Publishers (owned by men in the Illuminati) subtly gave this away in their book The UFO Phenomenon when they referred to UFO abductions as "the Oz factor." They go on to say that its like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz on page 71. Then they go so far as to reemphasize the point by showing a picture of Dorothy in Oz. In the TV series on aliens & UFOs called the "X-Files", they begin a show with an "I love you-I love you not" Monarch programming script.

n UFO Reality (1983) British ufologist Jenny Randles noted that some UFO witnesses experience a "sensation of being isolated, or transported from the real world into a different environmental framework. . . . I call this the 'Oz Factor,' after the fairytale land of Oz."
http://science.howstuffworks.com/oz-factor-ufo.htm

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Oz_factor_cover.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_Factor_(album)

[soulja]

http://www.rmamusic.com/images/somewh1.jpg
This album is completely instrumental. It is a compilation of 70 years of Broadway and motion picture music that has special meaning to the gay community. It was released in 1994 to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the Stonewall rebellion. The late Jerry Herman purchased his copy!

[soulja]

http://www.virtualstampclub.com/2005/harburg400.jpg
Somewhere Over The Rainbow, was performed on American Idol by Jason Castro. Though Israel Kamakawiwo re-popularized this classic from the Wizard of Oz, it was the legendary lyricist and activist Yip Harburg who penned the song. In fact, Harburg wrote the lyrics to all of the songs in the Wizard of Oz. Born in 1896 of Russian-Jewish immigrant parents, raised in poverty on Manhattan’s Lower East Side, Yip attended City College of New York where befriended his classmate, Ira Gershwin. Yip wrote over 600 songs including “Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?” “April in Paris” and “It’s Only a Paper Moon.” Known as “Broadway’s social conscience,” Harburg also wrote the lyrics to Bloomer Girl (1944) and Finian’s Rainbow (1947). Yip was even a poet and published two anthologies Rhymes for the Irreverent (1965) and At This Point in Rhyme (1976).

[soulja]

http://www.guitarnine.com/image/yourtrueself.jpg
04:51 Exile
05:36 Your True Self
07:43 Rainbow
04:29 Existence
05:29 Virginia And The Wizard
04:18 Crystal Heart
04:21 Draft
07:30 Revelation Of Our Malice
05:04 Merciless Faith
05:58 Cryptic Epistle
06:18 Labyrinth Of Spleen

[soulja]

this band is seriously fucked up, i dunno whether that's because of MK or them simply being satanic mental cases.
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ant.j/Templates/cover.jpg
don't want to post more pics of them but there are a lot of one eyed images and no talk triggers amongst some very disturbing other images.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=73498832

[broken silence]

Found this disturbing thread on another website. Looks like someone has broken away from MK Ultra and started spilling the beans. Yes, I know the persons sig name is dodgy (BlueAngel), but her former handlers are blatantly trying to trigger her monarch programming throughout the thread, which makes me think she is genuine.

Thread is over 400 pages long. Do not click the link if you have ever had MK Ultra programming as it contains many triggers in it.

http://http://clubconspiracy.com/forum/f22/mind-control-music-industry-4429.html

Link is not working properly, go to "mind control and the music industry" thread on club conspiracy. Place is full of government agents though, be warned.

[hunkahunka]

Found this disturbing thread on another website. Looks like someone has broken away from MK Ultra and started spilling the beans. Yes, I know the persons sig name is dodgy (BlueAngel), but her former handlers are blatantly trying to trigger her monarch programming throughout the thread, which makes me think she is genuine.

Thread is over 400 pages long. Do not click the link if you have ever had MK Ultra programming as it contains many triggers in it.

http://http://clubconspiracy.com/forum/f22/mind-control-music-industry-4429.html

the correct link is:

http://clubconspiracy.com/forum/f22/mind-control-music-industry-4429.html

[broken silence]

the correct link is:

http://clubconspiracy.com/forum/f22/mind-control-music-industry-4429.html

Thankyou :)

[soulja]

thx for the link silence, just started to read..

the opening post is spot on imo.


Knowing what I do about the music industry, it is extremely difficult for me to watch the propaganda that surrounds their most "lucrative cash cows."

It has accelerated of late. I can only ponder why.

They bring political messages to attract a following. They connect themselves with charitable organizations to appear sympathetic.

Love songs are written to trigger your sexual programming. To get you addicted. To fantasize about them.

Most of these musicians give neither of their time or money to the causes they want us to support by either requesting airtime on the radio of our favorite song and then afterward being allowed the opportunity to contribute to a "food bank," or paying $100.00 to see a show and then being asked to donate on our way out.

They do not control their assets. The music industry is owned and operated by the CIA/Mafia. Mind control exists within. Many times, managers are handlers/controllers. Sex slaves are plentiful. Ever wonder why so many artists use so many different female names in their songs even when they're married? Ever sit down and read the lyrics to many of the songs of your favorite artist? How 'bout when an artist writes a love song of a lost love and he's married, been married for a long time. Ever wonder where this comes from? They have to use sex slaves to break hearts, to get the "creative juices" flowing, as they call it.

Artists tour non-stop sometimes for several years. Do you think they have this stamina at the ages most of these rock stars are at these days because, well, they're wired differently than we are? Perhaps, programmed differently? Do you think they make the choice to go out on the road for so long? Don't you think by now they'd have enough money and want to maybe take it easy for a while? Do they love music so much that they have to be immersed in it 24/7. I'm talking about their top "cash cows."

They have millions and between all of them they have zillions and could probably end world hunger. But, they do not control their assets.

In Peace,
BlueAngel


I know what I know about the music industry because I was used within as a "mind control" sex slave. My main handler/controller is a very famous musician.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

Many musicians have roots to the "satanic cult." Many do not write their own lyrics. Many songs/lyrics have "hidden messages" directed at mind control victims. Many musicians, in a subtle way, refer to the "cult" of which they are a part; however, this interpretation would not be as evident to those who were not exposed to the "cult."

Many times, talented and creative children are sought after by the group who wish to exploit their gifts and as a result, you become their prisoner. Fortune and fame is difficult to snub your nose at if you are someone who has had very little. If you are someone who was abused at home, their abuse seems normal. Many times, these children have already mastered the technique of "fragmenting." Many times, their parents have connections to the Mafia, Freemasonry, etc.

One need look no further than Michael Jackson to see how exploited and abused he has been within the music industry and how acceptance of pedophilia by someone famous is normal. Although he is probably guilty, he was not sentenced; and those who have abused him not sentenced either.

The story of Peter Pan is a "mind control" theme. One never grows up. Pedophilia's like children. So no matter how old one becomes within the cult, a child-like alter can always be called out to satisfy their handler/controller's sexual deviant behavior and the sexual deviant behavior of all others whom they are made to have contact with whether it be for blackmail purposes in Congress or not; whether it be diplomatic blackmail in other regions of the world.

It is not a coincidence that Michael Jackson's ranch was called "NeverLand." It is not a coincidence that "less fortunate" children were welcome there. These are their prey. Those without resources to fight them.

I was offered a life of luxury and fame in exchange for my talent. I knew what this would entail. I was also offered MONEY in exchange for my silence. I declined.

In Peace,
BlueAngel



anyone from here member on clubconspiracy ?
why not pm BlueAngel and invite her to this forum. she wouldn't get as much shit here that's for sure.

[soulja]

One of my child-like alters was named Wendy.

In Peace,
BlueAngel

http://files.nintendic.com/wii/thumbs/wendy.jpg
doublemeaning there imo ''quality is our recipe''

http://www.ehapa-shop.de/static/shop/imgs/magazine/ehapa_mag_wendy/ehapa_mag_wendy_overviewCover.jpg
children mag focused on horses

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/46/Witch_wendy_comic2.jpg/250px-Witch_wendy_comic2.jpg
''the good little witch''

and of course peter pan's wendy
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Peter_Pan_1915_cover_2.JPG

[broken silence]

Dave Grohl, ex Nirvana drummer, Foo Fighters frontman.

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/284934.jpg Butterfly.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/FooFighters-FooFighters.jpg
Strange image to use for an album cover considering how Kurt died.

http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2007/08/19/previews/Foo%20Fighters-SPX-010981.jpg Upside down cross necklace?

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/pv/Foo%20Fighters-7.JPG Guy on the right (FF drummer) remind you of anyone?

http://l.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/rca/foofighters/1002_foo_fighters_c.jpg On the bus?

http://img.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/startracks/060703/david_grohl.jpg

Thats just disturbing. Mimicing a ritual sacrifice?

[hunkahunka]

it appears that blue angel's handler is Bruce Springsteen
He is said to have a Dutch father,
but with that original spelling...Was the original spelling Springstein?

that name rings a bell with this whole cult, all these Jewish germanic names, like Rothschild, Rothstein (Sumner Redstone), Bleustein (Harley Davidson CEO), Silverstein (owner of WTC) , Steinem, etc.

[soulja]

http://img.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/startracks/060703/david_grohl.jpg

Thats just disturbing. Mimicing a ritual sacrifice?

seen that one before
http://www.aolcdn.com/red_galleries/04-lindsay-lohan-knife-400a060407.jpghttp://www.aolcdn.com/red_galleries/03-lindsay-lohan-knife-400a060407.jpg
http://backseatcuddler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/lohan-knife-2.jpg

[soulja]

it appears that blue angel's handler is Bruce Springsteen
He is said to have a Dutch father,
but with that original spelling...Was the original spelling Springstein?

that name rings a bell with this whole cult, all these Jewish germanic names, like Rothschild, Rothstein (Sumner Redstone), Bleustein (Harley Davidson CEO), Silverstein (owner of WTC) , Steinem, etc.

interesting the springstein part. also rothstein reminds me at Bam Magera's wife Missy Rothstein.
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/bam-margera-missy-rothstein.jpg btw look at how they arranged the roses
http://www.platinum-celebs.com/messageboard/images/3Feb07-49450.jpg
there was a whole reality tv series on MTV following Bam and Missy the weeks leading up to their marriage. i remember at one point they had an Wizard of Oz themed party.

[schaff]

Dave Grohl, ex Nirvana drummer, Foo Fighters frontman.

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/284934.jpg Butterfly.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/FooFighters-FooFighters.jpg
Strange image to use for an album cover considering how Kurt died.

http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2007/08/19/previews/Foo%20Fighters-SPX-010981.jpg Upside down cross necklace?

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/pv/Foo%20Fighters-7.JPG Guy on the right (FF drummer) remind you of anyone?

http://l.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/rca/foofighters/1002_foo_fighters_c.jpg On the bus?

http://img.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/startracks/060703/david_grohl.jpg

Thats just disturbing. Mimicing a ritual sacrifice?

heres a few more of grohl with tenacious d

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Pix_Anon/Music/Pop_Rock/tenaciousd_grohl.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/new_line_cinema/tenacious_d_in__the_pick_of_destiny/dave_grohl/tenacious1.jpg

grohl as the devil

the name of foo fighters studio is 606 thought by some as the real number of the devil

http://www.sellaband.com/tribune/edition19/Mysti_met%20tenacioua%20d.416.jpeg

[amethyst]

i don't know what to say, it's just so weird.

but i fail to see the MK connection. i mean yea child alters and all that but these people as far as i understand it always want to be babies.
they're not really child alters but adults who want to be babies for some perverted reason. no ?

Yeah :eek:

[amethyst]

http://files.nintendic.com/wii/thumbs/wendy.jpg
doublemeaning there imo ''quality is our recipe''

http://www.ehapa-shop.de/static/shop/imgs/magazine/ehapa_mag_wendy/ehapa_mag_wendy_overviewCover.jpg
children mag focused on horses

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/46/Witch_wendy_comic2.jpg/250px-Witch_wendy_comic2.jpg
''the good little witch''

and of course peter pan's wendy
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Peter_Pan_1915_cover_2.JPG

And wasn't the founder of "Wendy's"- Dave Thomas, a mason?

[soulja]

yea certainly a freemason and i heard he was also a shriner.

[soulja]

talking bout freemasons, one of the organizations linked to it is the International Order of the Rainbow for Girls.
http://www.iorg.org/images/AlumniLogo.jpg
Rainbow is a non-profit, service-oriented organization that teaches girls three basic virtues: Faith in a Supreme Being and other people, having Hope in all that they do, and Charity toward others.

The seven colors of the Rainbow represent seven teachings that each member receives on her journey toward the pot of gold.

http://www.iorg.org/images/photo-friends.jpg
maybe nothing but the orange comes up again and again in MK.
http://www.iorg.org/membership.htm

[astral_girl]

Here is a picture of Cobain meeting with homosexual author William Burroughs at his lakeside cottage residence just outside
of Lawrence, Kansas in October 1993:


http://realitystudio.org/images/biography/kurt_cobain.william_burroughs.jpg


This is a photo that Burroughs snapped of Cobain using the cottage toilet. ( Burroughs sent Cobain this
photo on Cobain's 27th birthday:

http://realitystudio.org/images/paintings/burroughs_collage_for_cobain.2.jpg

very interesting -i know im taking this way back to beginnning of the thread but have only just re read over it again...........i just wanted to add about the other film gus van sant did-that also had William S. Burroughs in it -i think it did -it was a long time ago i saw it-DRUGSTORE COWBOY


Matt Dillon plays a junkie in the 1970s who travels around with a few
cohorts from town to town raiding drug stores for pharmaceutical drugs.

Following the overdose of one of his cohorts he seeks redemption from the
dark lifestyle he has undertaken.

Although filmed quite a while back (1989) the film feels very contemporary
in it's feel and style. There are elements that Van Sant repeats in some
of his later films, such as Dillion alone in a forest ('Last Days') as he buries
the dead girl, lonely corridors of a hospital (like the school in 'Elephant')
etc...

There is also a cameo by the legendary beat literary giant William S. Burrows
('Naked Lunch') who as an old junkie in Dillon's Drug rehab clinic
provides an interesting social commentary on drugs...
http://cinemawithouttears.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/drugstore_cowboy_30772n.jpg

[astral_girl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8JQ97NujE8&feature=related

[astral_girl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UZJWtXLowY

[soulja]

vogue wizard of oz special with Kiera Knightly
http://www.hollywoodbackwash.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/kiera-knightly-wizard-vogue-10.jpg

The 1939 film served as the main inspiration for Annie Leibovitz’s shoot for this month’s Vogue. The young actress Keira Knightley was chosen to step into Judy Garland’s ruby slippers—not to mention a variety of top designers’ takes on her gingham frock. Knightley may hail from across the ocean and lack the barely hidden sadness that made Garland’s performance so heartbreaking, but her smile is as wide open as the Midwest.

To give The Wizard of Oz’s iconic characters fresh life and new meaning, Vogue assembled an A-team of contemporary artists, whose images have become part of our collective visual consciousness. Jasper Johns, whose boldly painted maps, targets, and flags helped lead his contemporaries away from Abstract Expressionism and pointed ahead to Pop Art and Minimalism, appears here in good humor as the Cowardly Lion. And John Currin, who famously keeps an ironic distance from his subjects in paintings widely hailed for their technical virtuosity, is the Tin Man, following the Yellow brick Road in search of a heart.

http://www.hollywoodbackwash.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/kiera-knightly-wizard-vogue-8.jpg
http://www.hollywoodbackwash.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/kiera-knightly-wizard-vogue-6.jpg
http://www.hollywoodbackwash.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/kiera-knightly-wizard-vogue-5.jpg
http://www.hollywoodbackwash.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/kiera-knightly-wizard-vogue-2.jpg
http://www.hollywoodbackwash.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/kiera-knightly-wizard-vogue-7.jpg
http://www.hollywoodbackwash.com/kiera-knightley-does-the-wizard-of-oz-for-vogue/

[hunkahunka]

very interesting video:

Part 1
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1q-7-MiAau4&feature=PlayList&p=71F4009AD0040321&index=0

Part 2
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=MjlPJxfmmAU&feature=PlayList&p=71F4009AD0040321&index=1

[mrguitarbear]

William Burroughs , along with Brion Gysin , was involved in the development of the left-hand path tradition of Chaos magick ; indeed it was Burroughs who popularised the usage of the phrase ' Nothing is true , everything is permitted ' which has become a motto for chaos magicians.

Burroughs said " Magic, in light of modern physics, quantum theory and probability theory is now approaching science. We hope that a result of this will be a synthesis so that science will become more magical and magic more scientific." ( Condensed Chaos , 1995 )

[mrguitarbear]

it appears that blue angel's handler is Bruce Springsteen
He is said to have a Dutch father,
but with that original spelling...Was the original spelling Springstein?

that name rings a bell with this whole cult, all these Jewish germanic names, like Rothschild, Rothstein (Sumner Redstone), Bleustein (Harley Davidson CEO), Silverstein (owner of WTC) , Steinem, etc.

It appears to be the case.

Blue Angel says in Post 92 :

One verse of one song goes something like this, "Well, I got Mary pregnant when she was just 16." As I've stated, Mary was an alter. The one who carried the disinformation.

And here we have -

Bruce Springsteen - ' The River ' :

I come from down in the valley
Where mister when you're young
They bring you up to do like your daddy done
Me and Mary, we met in high school
When she was just seventeen
We'd drive outta this valley down to where the fields were green

Chorus:
We'd go down to the river
And into the river we'd drive
Oh, down to the river we'd drive

Then I got Mary pregnant
And man, that was all she wrote
And for my 19th birthday I got a union card and a wedding coat
We went down to the courthouse
And the judge put it all to rest
No wedding day smiles, no walk down the aisle
No flowers, no wedding dress

Chorus:
That night we'd go down to the river
And into the river we'd drive
Oh down to the river we did ride

I got a job working construction for the Johnstown Company
But lately there ain't been much work, on account of the economy
Now all them things that seemed so important
Well mister they vanished right into the air
Now I just act like I don't remember
Mary acts like she don't care

Bridge:
But I remember us riding in my brother's car
Her body tan and wet down at the reservoir
At night on them banks I'd lie awake
And pull her close just to feel each breath she'd take
Now those memories come back to haunt me
They haunt me like a curse
Is a dream a lie if it don't come true
Or is it something worse,

Chorus:
That sends me down to the river
Though I know the river is dry
That sends me down to the river tonight
Down to the river
My baby and I
Oh down to the river we ride...

[mrguitarbear]

Mind control victims are programmed to "carve on their skin." Self-mutilation to appear suicidal and crazy. Although, certain other etchings on my skin, such as a BUTTERFLY on my left hand were not of my own doing.

Starving one's self to death. Good way to take someone out without any fingerprints at the scene of the crime.

How many celebrities are heavily tattooed , especially with things like a five-pointed star on the left hand or the left wrist ?

How many female celebrities suffer from anorexia or bulimia ?

[brown velvet]

http://www.deconstructionist.com/blacknote/theta.htm

http://www.deconstructionist.com/blacknote/Theta.jpg

This CD is not music in a traditional sense. It is an ambient sound space designed to take you into a very specific altered state of consciousness: the Theta state.
Theta is a state of deep meditation, a space of dreams, visions and heightened creativity. To be in Theta is to be awake within the dream. While in Theta you may comprehend certain cognitions that otherwise seem ungraspable and reach spaces which may otherwise seem unreachable.

The CD works on several levels. It uses binaural technology to ensure that your deep brain produces the desired frequencies. It also works directly on your higher brain through direct vibrational content. Finally, it establishes a mood through subtle drones suitable to entering the Theta dream state.


(S/HE IS HER/E) (http://www.ashejournal.com/three/breakingsex.shtml)
Not quite 'I' and nearly 'WE' = 'E'
DID 'speak' if ever I saw some....
y-era


Site (http://www.genesisp-orridge.com/index.php?section=news&album_id=1&id=51)
As E sit here back at last with you thee weather is my least favourite. Hot so you can hardly see for thee endless drips. Lady Jaye is busy clearing out thee basement. Bog Boy is sleeping on thee floor next to me. In thee background is a CD ov PTV3 live in Moscow. Patrick Griveau sent a whole batch ov CDs ov PTV3, and TG...for which we say thank you Partrick. Thee Russian crowd is going crazy. They loved our music. When we arrived in Moscow last y-era we had literally not slept in a bed for 3 daze due to brutal scheduling ov thee detour. On thee way we needed to visit thee venue before getting to thee hotel so we could store our gear where it was safe. At times like that thee silliest gestures can make all thee hidden stress and disorder worthwhile. One ov us looked up, bleary eyed, and said "WOW! look!" And there across thee street was a big plastic banner with thee legend "S/HE IS HER/E" .


cross of lorraine G P-Orridge
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8722/vicd006or2.jpg

Early Worm

cd cover here (http://theevilsymphony.blogspot.com/2008/02/cannibal-corpse-worm-infest-2002.html)

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/18%2008%2008%20she%20he/wormmaggot.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCMHmDnfD6I

Waiting for the worms to come

Oooo you cannot reach me now,
Oooo no matter how you try.
Goodbye cruel world, its over.
Walk on by.

Sitting in a bunker,
Here behind my wall,
Waiting for the worms (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/pink+floyd/waiting+for+the+worms_20108802.html) to come. ( worms to come. )
In perfect isolation,
Here behind my wall,
Waiting for the worms to come. ( worms to come. )

The Trial
Good morning, The Worm (http://www.lyrics007.com/Pink%20Floyd%20Lyrics/The%20Trial%20Lyrics.html), Your Honour,
The Crown will plainly show,
The prisoner who now stands before you,
Was caught red-handed showing feelings.
Showing feelings of an almost human nature.
This will not do.
Call the schoolmaster!
I always said he'd come to no good,
In the end, Your Honour.
If they'd let me have my way,
I could have flayed him into shape.
But my hands were tied.The bleeding hearts and artists,
Let him get away with murder.
Let me hammer him today.
Crazy.
Toys in the attic, I am crazy.

THROBBING GRISTLE WORDS (http://www.brainwashed.com/tg/lyrics.html)

MAGGOT DEATH:
Play a little game
Play your little game
Without any name
Put a record on
Put a record on
Maggot death
Maggot death
Maggot death
Maggot death
Maggot death
Maggots loose
Bad for you
I walk your park
A walk in the park
Feel the same
Play for time
I see the wife every time
I see the white leather thights
I got an act you want
I tell you what to do
I'm gonna ask you home
I know just what to do
Maggot death
Maggot death
Maggot death (Screams)
Maggot death
Maggot death
Maggot death
What did you want
Just a silly tart
You gotta go out now
Make you pay for death
Maggot death
Maggot death (just you)
You're just a lump in my bed
Eating up my head


pubic wings site (http://www.bodyart-nation.co.uk/magazine_pages/bodyartmags23.htm)

- am wondering if these have anything to do with the 'wings' post I did about colours?

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/18%2008%2008%20she%20he/pubicwings01a.jpg


Genesis (http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/07/genesis_porridge_jacqueline_breyer_plastic_surgery _01-print.php) was a performance artist before the genre had a name, doing everything from masturbating onstage to publicly wounding himself in the name of creative experimentation

Still, "really weird guy" grossly understated the facts, given the British-born P-Orridge's well-established rep as a provocateur and troublemaker. A cult icon best known for his fearsome, and sometimes transcendent, stage performances, Genesis was one of the most influential musicians of the UK's post-punk era. He invented the genre known as industrial music and later helped pioneer acid house and the rave scene, all the while crafting an unsettling persona—shamanistic, sinister, and unabashedly deviant—that would inspire countless acts. His own output never found a mass audience, but as author Douglas Rushkoff, who briefly played keyboards for Psychic TV, points out, "If it weren't for Throbbing Gristle, people like Marilyn Manson and Trent Reznor would never have existed at all."
The art world, too, owes P-Orridge a considerable debt. One of his early sculptures, displayed at the Museum of Modern Art in Paris, was a vitrine filled with live maggots that fed on menstrual blood and eventually grew into fruit flies—not exactly Matisse, perhaps, but a hot enough idea that when Damien Hirst did almost exactly the same thing (replacing the tampons with a cow's head) more than a decade later, the piece instantly launched his career. Genesis was also a performance artist before the genre had a name, doing everything from masturbating onstage to publicly wounding himself in the name of creative experimentation.

Meanwhile, he transformed body piercing from a fetish of the hardcore gay subculture into a mainstream phenomenon. He was an eager student of occultist Aleister Crowley and a practitioner of "sex magick" (credit him, along with Jimmy Page, for giving rock its satanic edge). He experimented with a panoply of narcotics; hung out with William S. Burroughs and Dr. Timothy Leary; and founded a quasi-cult, Thee Temple ov Psychick Youth, which claimed 10,000 worldwide adherents at its peak. He was denounced as a degenerate, a satanist, and a corrupter of youth by the Fleet Street tabloids; charged with obscenity for his indecent mail art; targeted by Scotland Yard amid the ritual child-abuse hysteria of the early 1990s; and essentially banished from his home country. In short, Genesis P-Orridge was, by conventional measures, not merely weird but off the charts. And this was before he had his teeth filed down to tiny points and replaced with solid gold replicas; before the cheek implants; before the boob job.

He leans back in the booth and recites, "In sickness and in health, till death do us join."





P-Orridge (http://www.genesisp-orridge.com/index.php?section=article&id=79) first made newspaper headlines in 1976, the week before the Sex Pistols catapulted to punk celebrity on the strength of an expletive-filled appearance on British television. As the principal behind the performance-art troupe COUM Transmissions, P-Orridge was responsible for an astonishing retrospective at Britain's prestigious Institute of Contemporary Art. Among other things, the show, called Prostitution, presented as art photographs of P-Orridge's then-girlfriend, a part-time pin-up model, which had appeared in soft-porn magazines. According to an essay in Painful but Fabulous, the point was to free P-Orridge, and viewers, from their taboos" by performing benign exorcisms of a sick society's malignancies."


Manson anyone?




In October of 1976, with a new lineup that included designer Peter "Sleazy" Christopherson and Chris Carter, COUM assembled Pornography, an exhibit at London's Institute of Contemporary Art. The quartet appeared for the opening, performing "Music From the Death Factory" under their new name, Throbbing Gristle (http://www.answers.com/topic/genesis-p-orridge). Due to its status as a publicly funded event, the ICA and Throbbing Gristle drew fierce criticism and vicious attacks from the press. Being left with little possibility of finding a label to fund and promote the band's music, Throbbing Gristle established their own Industrial Records. In 1977, a year that spawned a number of seminal punk releases, P-Orridge (bass, electric violin, vocals), Tutti (guitar, cornet), Christopherson (tapes, trumpet), and Carter (keyboards) entered a studio to record their debut, Second Annual Report. An unyielding industrial onslaught, the record was based around multiple versions of "Slug Bait" and "Maggot Death," songs that detailed acts of serial killing. It was followed by the single "United"/"Zyklon B Zombie" (the latter of which takes its name from a lethal gas employed by Hitler) and the abrasive audio collage of DOA: The Third and Final Annual Report (both 1978). Throbbing Gristle dissolved following 1980's Heathen Earth with Carter and Tutti forming Chris & Cosey and P-Orridge establishing Psychic TV with Christopherson and John Balance.


The cover of "Early Worm" features handwritten quotes by John Cage, his book Silence being a source of inspiration for Genesis P-Orridge.



John Cage (http://www.answers.com/topic/john-cage) is the 20th century conceptual artist who famously "composed" the piano piece titled 4' 33" (1952), which consists of the pianist(s) sitting at a piano and not playing for exactly four minutes and 33 seconds. The son of an inventor, Cage spent time in Europe as a young man, absorbing culture and studying with composer Arnold Schoenberg. He returned to the United States in the 1930s as a composer with an avant-garde approach, composing pieces for percussion groups and for what was called "prepared piano" -- a piano with various objects inserted between the strings for percussive effects. He taught briefly at the Chicago School of Design (1941-42) before moving to New York, where he continued to experiment and push the boundaries music, and embarked on a career of what he called "an exploration of non-intention." Cage used found objects and ambient sound, experimented with magnetic tape editing and splicing and used a variety of composing methods (including using the I Ching and star maps) to create compositions that were usually performed live instead of recorded. He became known outside the art world in the 1960s as an influence on pop art and rock music, and continued to lecture and compose until his death in 1992. Some consider Cage little more than a charlatan, but his idea that "everything we do is music" has undoubtedly influenced modern composers. Some of his other works include Imaginary Landscape #3 (1942), Variations I and II (1958) and Thirty Pieces for Five Orchestras (1981).


It was in the mid-'80s that P-Orridge (http://www.lastvisibledog.org/John_E_Mitchell/Genesis_P_Orridge.html) gained further notoriety as the prime mover in something called the "Modern Primitive" movement, which celebrated body piercing and tattoos as a reclamation of the self, a ritualistic adornment with deeper meaning that stretched back to primitive man. A book was published, including interviews and photos of P-Orridge, and distributed largely in record stores. It was a surprise hit for the company and became the element that started the water drips that would soon build-up such pressure in youth culture that it would tear down floodgates.

"We had no idea that it would be so incredibly influential," said P-Orridge. "When you look at it chronologically, that's when it exploded a-cross the planet. Now there's a piercing and tattoo shop in almost every village everywhere you go — it's incredible."

The aesthetics that P-Orridge pioneered are obvious in any mall with a Hot Topic, where teenagers wear the trappings of a lifestyle that they may not even comprehend the origins of — it just all looks cool to them.

"We walk along and Jaye says 'I blame you for this,'" said P-Orridge.



Genesis P-Orridge

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/18%2008%2008%20she%20he/genesistattoos01.jpg


I also asked Larry to talk to me about what he knew of the early days of industrial music and Throbbing Gristle (http://mog.com/Kate/blog_post/8695) . "In 1975, Throbbing Gristle would hold shows where they basically terrorized the audience. All the doors would be locked, insanely bright floodlights and pulsing red beams would be shone into the audience as brain-numbingly loud white noise was blasted from the stage." What I found illuminating was who attended these shows: "Malcolm McLaren, Siouxsie Sioux, Bauhaus. The Sex Pistols were afraid to come see Throbbing Gristle play." Hmmmm.... How history gets rewritten. I have yet to see the mention of T.G's hand in helping form English punk by introducing noise terrorism to a whole generation of people. What is now considered "Industrial Music" is basically pop compared to T.G's almost psychological warfare as music.




shame the interviewer is rubbish, clueless, and uses uninformed drivel like comments

2007 interview
- note, as the lights go up, at the begining, you see a child pointing up in to the rafters, then kick his feet, shake his arms in excitement, and as the young boy turns to speak to the interviewer..... Genesis 'lands' DID? You bet.


http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=533256409

http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=537026687

http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=537085512

http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=566063017

horus is the god of war
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/18%2008%2008%20she%20he/genesisjewelry03.jpg

AK-47

Denver International Airport (http://citynoise.org/article/4367)
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/18%2008%2008%20she%20he/DenverIntairportAK4703.jpg


Genesis's school (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solihull_School)

and one of it's headmasters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warin_Foster_Bushell)
Warin Foster Bushell MA (Cantab.) FRAS (18 April 1885 - 21 November 1974) was a schoolmaster and educationalist who was headmaster of leading schools in England and South Africa and a President of the Mathematical Association.[1]



sick music, spontaneous defecation and bassgasms

As far as i know Throbbing Gristle (http://dubshot.blogspot.com/) is the only band that has been associated with the use of sick levels of infrasound and ultrasound but its mostly rumours and urban myths like this one: "Legend has it they produced spontaneous defecation and orgasm at concerts". I don't know if that's true.


Sonic Weapons (http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/256/sonic_weapons.html)
An acoustic weapon disorients rioters and afflicts an invading army with nausea. It can create ‘ghosts’ and arouse animal passions. Fantastic? Jack Sargeant, delving into the possible uses and abuses of infrasound, isn’t so sure. Additional material by David Sutton.

Effects like these could also, theoretically, be contributing to sick-building syndrome as standing waves of infrasound can be created by architectural anomalies or frequencies set up by electronic devices. In 1978, the artist-industrial musician Monte Cazazza and the group Throbbing Gristle (above) experimented in their East London studio with the creation of both ultrasound and infrasound frequencies. Cazazza remembers during infrasound tests using an industrial tone generator that the air began to shimmer and his clothes visibly “rippled under the waves.” The group’s ultrasound experiments were equally notorious; using an array of piezo-electric speakers (“because they were cheap” remembers Monte), they used frequencies in excess of 20,000Hz in a ‘sonic loop’, creating a continual, culminating wave. Their target was some troublesome neighbours; according to the group, the neighbours’ dogs began to bark and both people and animals exhibited aggressive irritability. Unsurprisingly, the unwanted neighbours moved shortly after the sonic attacks.


Worried that if I just sit around my flat listening to Throbbing Gristle (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2003/jan/01/artsfeatures.popandrock) all day, I might start baying myself, I venture outside. This proves to be the biggest error of judgment I have made since embarking on the project in the first place. It's difficult to know exactly what would be the ideal activity to engage in while Throbbing Gristle provide the soundtrack. But I can reveal that shopping in central London is not among them. A journey by Tube is even more like a descent into some netherworld of the damned than usual. The heaving crowds of Oxford Street, nerve- jangling at the best of times, are rendered nightmarish.

I stand it until about 4pm: less than halfway through my 24-hour marathon. Aware I am regarding my fellow shoppers with bulging eyes and am in danger of developing a twitch, I rip off my headphones. I am unprepared for what happens next. My ears are assaulted by the most appalling noise I have heard all day: children screaming, couples arguing, teenage girls bawling at each other, buskers playing tinny carols and, underpinning it all, Cliff Richard's Mistletoe and Wine. I replace my headphones. Throbbing Gristle are treating the patrons of Highbury Roundhouse to a song called Hit by a Rock. "Blood and brains in the marmalade!" wails Genesis P-Orridge, as ever grasping for a tune that may not exist. It is a distinct improvement.

==

I become worried about the rumoured presence of subsonic and ultrasonic frequencies, designed to make listeners throw up, pass out or void their bowels. It would be a shame to come this far, then end up crapping myself.

But it doesn't happen. After 24 hours, I'm exhausted, but have rendered myself impervious to the sound of Throbbing Gristle: the volume surges, the screeches of feedback, even P-Orridge's voice.


TG24 is out now on Mute Records.





lots and lots (http://www.musicnotesandquotes.com/disco.htm#Discography) of images / album covers, too much for me to delve through. Worth a 2 minute look though.


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/18%2008%2008%20she%20he/ToxicShock.gif


Noise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_gate) gate





Tatum O'neal was named after this man.

The starting point of Art Tatum (http://www.duke.edu/~njh3/biography.html)'s style was Fats Waller's stride. As Tatum once said, "Fats, that's where I come out of and, man, that's quite a place to come from". From this beginning he went on to create and superbly original and creative style of playing piano. His left-handed figures where similar to stride but he was really known for the way that he explored harmonic complexities and unusual chord progressions. When improvising, Tatum would often insert totally new chord sequences (occasionally with a chord on each beat) into one or two measures. He also developed the habit of quoting from other melodies, something that became a standard practice among modern jazz musicians. What really set Tatum apart was his amazing technical abilities which combined with his willingness to explore the imagined limitations of the orthodox keyboard which produced astonishing rhythmic and harmonic complexities. It is claimed that he could identify the dominant note in a flushing toilet. Perhaps the greatest tribute to the excellence of Art Tatum lies in the opinions of his peers. His influenced many musicians including Bud Powell, Herbie Hancock, and even non-pianists such as Charlie Parker and John Coltrane. Many would say that he inspired the bebop revolution in jazz. When Oscar Peterson first heard him play he thought it was two people and he considered Tatum the best jazz instrumentalist of all time. Legend has it that classical pianist Vladimir Horowitz was so awed by Tatum's wizardry that it brought him to tears. Fittingly, his strongest support comes from one of his early influences, Fats Waller. One time in 1938 Tatum dropped in to hear Waller play at a club. By way of introduction Waller told the audience, "I just play the piano, but God is in the house tonight."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaPeks0H3_s&feature=related






brown.

[astral_girl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXAFbkNVB1E

[astral_girl]

http://www.showmejoe.com/research/FleetwoodMac_Shrine69.jpg

[astral_girl]

http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/occultism-in-music.htm

[moonshine]

The Wonderland Club, Another CIA MK Ultra Project?

http://i35.tinypic.com/90ppxv.jpg
Wizard of Oz and Alice and Wonderland, both heavily saturated with occultic symbolism. Many of the recent Disney movies and cartoons are used in a two-fold manner: desensitizing the majority of the population, using subliminals and neuro-linguistic programming, and deliberately constructing specific triggers and keys for base programming of highly-impressionable MONARCH children.

http://www.aches-mc.org/monarch.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderland_Club

On 2 September 1998, police across the world picked up 107 men in connection with one of the world's biggest internet paedophile ring.

Police seized a total of 750,000 pictures along with a library of 1,800 computerised videos depicting children suffering sexual abuse.

Officers from Operation Cathedral raided the homes of 12 men in Britain; nine were charged. Seven of them were sentenced on Tuesday; another was jailed three years ago. A ninth man committed suicide.



Wickedness of Wonderland:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1167879.stm


Neo-Nazi pedophile Ken Riley, who was also Alex Houston's best friend, often assisted Houston in handling me. Riley in turn handed by Charm School programmed keys, codes, and triggers to Congressman Ackerman, who skillfully accessed my Alice in Wonderland mirror theme programming.

- by Cathy O'Brien
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/162837

[moonshine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_eSnmYv0KA



You are an obsession, I cannot sleep
I am a possession unopened at your feet
There is no balance, no equality
Be still I will not accept defeat

I will have you, yes I will have you
I will find a way and I will have you
Like a butterfly, a wild butterfly
I will collect you and capture you

You are an obsession, you're my obsession
Who do you want me to be to make you sleep with me
(x2)

I feed you, I drink you by day and by night
I need you, I need you by sun or candlelight
You protest, you want to leave
You say there's no alternative

Your face appears again, I see the beauty there
But I see danger, stranger beware
A circumstance in your naked dreams
Your affection is not what it seems

You are an obsession, you're my obsession
Who do you want me to be to make you sleep with me
(x2)

My fantasy has turned to madness
All my goodness has turned to badness
My need to possess you has consumed my soul
My life is trembling, I have no control

I will have you, yes I will have you
I will find a way and I will have you
Like a butterfly, a wild butterfly
I will collect you and capture you

You are an obsession, you're my obsession
Who do you want me to be to make you sleep with me
(x2 an fade)

[brown velvet]

Hi :)

On BBC tv last night was a program about Pedigree dogs / pure breds. I have uploaded some images from it, showing just how far 'dogs' have come with the honing techniques employed by Eugenics / blood lines.......

there's a mention at about 15 minutes, and again at about 24 minutes. The show is on BBC iPlayer for a week, up until Wednesday 27 August 2008Bull dogs, 100 years to go from this...
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/100yearsbulldog01a.jpg
to this...
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/20%2008%2008%20oz%20histamine/100yearsbulldog02a.jpg
brown.


Hi :)

Just incase anyone is interested....

Dogworld.UK (http://dogworld.co.uk/News/34-KCrelease)
Kennel Club hits back at BBC dog documentary

20 Aug 2008 02:07
The Kennel Club feels that the programme, Pedigree Dogs Exposed (BBC1 19 August) missed a real opportunity to progress the cause of dog health. It appeared to have a very specific agenda repeating prejudices, providing no context for the debate, and failing to put forward constructive proposals. It left viewers with the mistaken impression that all pedigree dogs are riddled with a wide range of health problems and that the dog community is doing little or nothing to improve the situation. This is patently not true.

Whilst the Kennel Club was shocked and saddened by the dramatic imagery used in the programme, and accepts some of the important issues raised, what it does not accept is that these problems apply widely across the 200 plus breeds in the UK. Pedigree Dogs Exposed also failed to show the real progress being made by both the Kennel Club and responsible breeders in improving dog health or to recognise that 90 percent of dogs will not suffer from health problems that have a detrimental impact on the quality of life.

More than that, the programme drew upon a new study on dog genetics by Imperial College to underline its criticisms of dog breeding, without acknowledging the fact this study was entirely enabled by the Kennel Club as part of its commitment to health research. This research will now provide the Kennel Club with a valuable scientific platform to enlist the support of breeders in tackling key health problems where they occur.




brown.

[brown velvet]

The Wonderland Club, Another CIA MK Ultra Project?

http://i35.tinypic.com/90ppxv.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderland_Club

Kidada (http://www.fashionkraze.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=418) for Disney Couture Alice in Wonderland Blue Leather & 18K Gold Charms Bracelet


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/23%2008%2008%20CSI%20king%20baby/Kidada01.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/23%2008%2008%20CSI%20king%20baby/aliceKidada.jpg



brown.

[moonshine]

http://i37.tinypic.com/35ml7pj.jpg


The Butterfly cult is an art medium based on humanitarianism, mainly in literature, however, it also uses other means to promote the beauty of good and it's glory. However if beauty isn't blameless it has no glory. So we establish beauty by the course of innocence which is the opposite to the course of harm. So the Butterfly Cult reflects the beauty of innocense therefore by the nature of innocence stingly repremands the course of harm and reveals it's ugliness (hense the butterfly with the Scorpion's tail).

To capture all this in the shortest possible statement and to have it acceptable to all people of all beliefs, all philosiphies and all outlooks of life. This is acheived by our platform "reality is truth".
http://www.butterflycult.com/

[moonshine]

(2005) System of a Down - Hypnotize
http://i34.tinypic.com/2uny5pi.jpg
(2005) System of a Down - Mezmerize
http://i36.tinypic.com/j0vhi1.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://ring.cdandlp.com/sapiens/photo_petite/3724687.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41187PEHNAL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

The song 'Self Control' was originally written and recorded by Italian singer Raffaele Riefoli (with Giancarlo Bigazzi) , and later covered by American singer Laura Branigan

]Self Control


Giancarlo Bigazzi/Raffaele Riefoli (Eng. S. Piccolo)
Oh, the night is my world
City light painted girl
In the day nothing matters
It's the night time that flatters
In the night, no control
Through the wall something's breaking
Wearing white as you're walkin'
Down the street of my soul

You take my self, you take my self control
You got me livin' only for the night
Before the morning comes, the story's told
You take my self, you take my self control

Another night, another day goes by
I never stop myself to wonder why
You help me to forget to play my role
You take my self, you take my self control

I, I live among the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight
Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe it
That tomorrow never comes

A safe night, I'm living in the forest of my dream
I know the night is not as it would seem
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it
That this night will never go

Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh

Oh, the night is my world
City light painted girl
In the day nothing matters
It's the night time that flatters

I, I live among the creatures of the night
I haven't got the will to try and fight
Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe it
That tomorrow never knows

A safe night, I'm living in the forest of a dream
I know the night is not as it would seem
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it
That this night will never go

Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
You take my self, you take my self control

The RAF song was featured in this Italian compilation of dance tunes:
http://www.discovideos.com/image.php?productid=16387

Images of sex magik orgy from Laura Branigan video of 'Self Control' cover
http://img209.imagevenue.com/loc443/th_18770_Laura_Branigan1_122_443lo.jpg (http://img209.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=18770_Laura_Branigan1_122_443lo.jpg) http://img196.imagevenue.com/loc77/th_18770_Laura_Branigan02_122_77lo.jpg (http://img196.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=18770_Laura_Branigan02_122_77lo.jpg) http://img121.imagevenue.com/loc355/th_18776_Laura_Branigan-Self_Control_dvd-2nafish__014_0002_122_355lo.jpg (http://img121.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=18776_Laura_Branigan-Self_Control_dvd-2nafish__014_0002_122_355lo.jpg)http://img25.imagevenue.com/loc1009/th_18778_Laura_Branigan-Self_Control_dvd-2nafish__014_0002_122_1009lo.jpg (http://img25.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=18778_Laura_Branigan-Self_Control_dvd-2nafish__014_0002_122_1009lo.jpg)
http://img225.imagevenue.com/loc482/th_18783_Laura_Branigan-Self_Control_dvd-2nafish__014_0003_122_482lo.jpg (http://img225.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=18783_Laura_Branigan-Self_Control_dvd-2nafish__014_0003_122_482lo.jpg)

[moonshine]

Colette - Hypnotized
http://i38.tinypic.com/154u2hz.jpg

Featuring two singles called Feelin' Hypnotized and What's Wrong With Being Lonely.

Ufomammut - Lucifer Songs
http://i36.tinypic.com/xqf7dc.gif
1. Blind 05:14
2. Hellcore 05:10
3. Hypnotized 02:02
4. Mars 05:38
5. Astrodronaut 06:57
6. Lucifer Song 09:57
Total playing time 34:58

[hunkahunka]

http://www.horrorphile.net/images/the-exorcist-poster-image1.jpg

The video for the Laura Branigan version of the song Self Control was directed and produced by the director of the movie 'The Exorcist', William Friedkin.

Both 'The Exorcist' and the 'Self Control' video both featured themes of possession by outside forces.

http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/exorcist.jpg

Also, the Self Control orgy/sex magik video images bear a resemblance to the 'black mass' images from Eyes Wide Shut:

http://img196.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-25882/loc77/18770_Laura_Branigan02_122_77lo.jpg

http://img121.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-21932/loc355/18776_Laura_Branigan-Self_Control_dvd-2nafish__014_0002_122_355lo.jpg

http://img209.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-29263/loc443/18770_Laura_Branigan1_122_443lo.jpg

http://img225.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-9340/loc482/18783_Laura_Branigan-Self_Control_dvd-2nafish__014_0003_122_482lo.jpg

Orgy/black mass scenes from Eyes Wide Shut:

http://bp0.blogger.com/_NqyO_WbnO_M/R7kMMdssrqI/AAAAAAAAAHM/mBHcxf-Cd6g/s400/aeyes22c1.jpg
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/images/eyes.jpg
http://www.sensesofcinema.com/images/23/eyes_wide_shut_orgy.jpg

So, I am sensing a real Italy/Greek connection here , from the original Italian writers of Self Control , to the Catholic exorcisms of 'The Exorcist' (by a Greek priest) , to the 'Black Mass' of 'Eyes Wide Shut.'

also, director William Friedkin's first big success was 'The French Connection', which was about the highly secretive (Italian) Corsican mafia's drug dealings.

video of 'masked ball/black mass', from 'Eyes Wide Shut':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZxgtUANXpU

the incantations featured in the song/music 'Masked Ball' are from a ROMANIAN Greek-Orthodox church, played backwards
and set to music. Producer/Director Stanley Kubrick did not live to see the completion of this film.

[moonshine]

Colette - Hypnotized
http://i38.tinypic.com/154u2hz.jpg

Featuring two singles called Feelin' Hypnotized and What's Wrong With Being Lonely.



Her first single taken from that album.
http://i34.tinypic.com/6ga5gy.jpg

[moonshine]

Raising Cane
http://i34.tinypic.com/e8lowy.jpg
Dr. Carter Nix (Lithgow) is a respected child psychologist. His wife Jenny (Lolita Davidovich) is an oncologist. Carter takes time away from his flourishing practice to care for their two-year-old daughter, Amy. Jenny becomes concerned that Carter is obsessively studying their child; he regards her like a scientist tracking the development of his creation.

The audience quickly learns that Carter suffers from multiple personality disorder. His multiples are Cain, a streetwise hustler, Josh, a traumatized little boy, and Margo, a middle-aged mother figure. Carter/Cain are killing young mothers to procure their babies and toddlers.

In a side story we learn that Jenny is having an affair with the widower of a former patient, Jack Dante (Steven Bauer). When Carter accidentally discovers their tryst, he descends further into madness. Carter and Cain begin leaving subtle clues for the police that Jack is the real killer.

Next Carter attempts to kill Jenny by submerging her car in a lake. She pulls herself out and confronts Carter at their home. Unable to find Amy, Jenny demands Carter tell her where she is. Carter replies that she is with his father — whom Jenny knows has been dead for years.

Carter is apprehended for attempted murder. The police bring Dr. Lynn Waldheim (Frances Sternhagen) to interrogate him. Though enduring chemotherapy, Dr. Waldheim interviews Carter and informs the police that she co-wrote a book with Dr. Nix Sr. called Raising Cain about a boy with multiple personality disorder. The doctors agreed that patients with MPD seemed to share certain childhood traumas, but there could be no ethical way to test these theories through direct clinical observation. Dr. Nix Sr. had extensive detailed knowledge of Cain's childhood torture, including a few taped recordings of their sessions. However, Dr. Waldheim was never allowed to meet Cain. She pieced the situation together: Dr. Nix Sr. abused his own son to gain first-hand accounts of his traumatic psychological development and study the emerging personalities. Horrified, Waldheim quit the project.

During interrogation, the "Carter" personality disappears, and "Margo" (the mother) and "Josh" (the child) act and speak for him. Josh recites a rhyme:

"Hickory dickory dock. Cain has picked his lock. He did a bad deed now Josh comes to bleed. Hickory dickory dock."

With this, Josh vanishes, and Margo assumes control of the body. She stonewalls Waldheim from any further questioning.

Eventually, Carter/Cain break from their confines. They pounce upon Dr. Waldheim, knocking her unconscious, stealing her wig, dress, shoes and coat. "They" then leave the building disguised as her. The police soon find Waldheim on the floor of an interview room begging them to arrest Carter before any children are harmed.

In fact, Dr. Nix, Sr. (also played by Lithgow) is alive, having faked his own death to elude prosecution for attempting to buy babies. He has established a new identity and a clandestine research facility in Norway. He has been using Carter and his multiples to procure the children so he will have an adequate control group to study the development of MPD.

Jenny follows who she thinks is Waldheim to a motel, but it's actually Carter/Cain. She follows Carter/Cain, who is now Margo in Waldheim's wig and clothes, into an elevator. When it opens, she sees Dr. Nix Sr. with her daughter Amy. While Jenny begs for Nix Sr. give back her daughter, Cain/Carter/Margo stabs "their" father from behind. Shortly afterward, Jack arrives with the police, and Carter/Margo/Cain disappears.

The movie ends with Jenny and Amy in a park. Amy plays alone while Jenny chats with another mother. Soon Amy runs off into the woods saying "Daddy, Daddy." Jenny calls for her and follows into the woods. She shortly after finds Amy, who says her father has gone away. When Jenny bends down to pick Amy up, Carter appears behind her in a wig and a dress; Margo is now in control. Jenny holds Amy in her arms, oblivious to who is behind her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_Cain

[moonshine]

The Ninth Configuration from the writer of The Exorcist
http://i33.tinypic.com/xg5dt.jpg
A new commanding officer arrives at a remote castle serving as an insane asylum for crazy and AWOL U.S. Army soldiers where he attempts to rehabilitate them by allowing them to live out their crazy fantasies while combating his own long-suppressed insanity.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081237/plotsummary

Like Minds
http://i38.tinypic.com/2pq6olx.jpg
The forensic psychiatric Sally Rowe is called by Detective Martin Mackenzie to analyze the profile of the teenager Alex Forbes, who was found in a train station holding the body of his schoolmate Nigel Colby and with powder in his hand. Alex discloses his relationship with Nigel, who believes that they were descendants of the Templar Knights, and how Nigel used the power of his mind to control him. Mackenzie believes that Alex is the killer, but Susan investigates the family of Nigel under pressure of Alex's father, and finds that all of them belong to an ancient and powerful secret society.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425196/plotsummary

[hunkahunka]

great posts, Moonshine. It is becoming apparent that the writers, actors, directors of this stuff tend to leave a trail of interconnectedness throughout their careers. Fascinating.

[quiranitramsab]

Krissy Taylor had one
http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tattoo/celeb-taylor_krissy.htm

she was a top model who died in 1995



her sister who also is a model is called Nikki taylor (sometimes written with one k)

that brings me to another MK sign, names, Nikki for example seems to be one of those names used alot for MK slaves.

for example ''Princess'' (indicating princess programing) Nikki
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/Anitababe/Hideout/d38_1230_nikki_g.jpg
who was on UK's Big brother and famous for her major tandrums. one moment she'd be normal and the next completely out of it. she switched altars alot on that show. later got her own tv show called:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/Anitababe/Hideout/250px-Princess_Nikki.jpg

theres an adult star known as Nikki Tyler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Tyler

she got a rose tat on her ass cheek btw..

That post made me remember the song from " Prince " named " Darling Nikki " which is full of sexual content .
I don´t know if this a coincidence .

[soulja]

it's not a coincidence in that the song's probably about some sexual encounter with another Nikki (Monarch Sex slave/alter)

funny you brought that post up because today i came across Nikki Grahame again.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/Nikki_g.jpg
that's her all bunny'd up in front of a giant spiral on the day she entered the big brother house.

Nicola Rachele-Beth Grahame (born April 28, 1982) from Watford, Hertfordshire rose to fame in the UK when she was chosen to be a housemate on Big Brother 7 in 2006. A former model and promotions girl, Grahame has become renowned for throwing temper tantrums — behaviour that divided viewer opinion during her time on Big Brother and subsequently led to her being given her own reality television show entitled Princess Nikki.

Grahame spent most of her adolescence in psychiatric hospitals, battling with the eating disorder anorexia nervosa, a condition that left her comatose and near death at the age of 12. The Big Brother production company, Endemol, was criticised for including her in the programme and endangering her fragile mental state in favour of viewing figures

Anorexia nervosa

Grahame's disorder continued to escalate until her parents had her admitted to the children’s eating disorders unit at the Maudsley psychiatric hospital in London. She was kept in for six weeks and then released, however she continued to starve herself and several months later she was rushed to an emergency unit at Hillingdon Hospital, Greater London, where she was force-fed through a nasal tube. She was then transferred to Collingham Gardens child and family psychiatric unit in West London, where her weight was increased and after eight months she was allowed home.For 18 months Grahame remained at home and attended Northwood secondary school in Hillingdon, West London, before her weight started dropping once again. She was readmitted to Collingham Gardens for six months and then to Great Ormond Street Hospital in London where she was placed on a psychiatric and eating disorders ward.

Grahame refused to accept treatment willingly and has commented: “I was on a mission to starve myself to death...I was obsessed." This culminated in several suicide bids, when at the age of 12, she stole a packet of paracetemol from the hospital's supplies and swallowed 22 pills. Shortly after, Grahame's weight dropped so low that she fell into a coma and at one stage doctors predicted that she was minutes from death.Grahame was force-fed via a tube that was stitched inside her stomach, but when she regained consciousness she continuously tried to remove the feeding apparatus and her weight subsequently dropped to 2 stones 9lb (37lbs), which her doctor claimed was the worst case of anorexia he had come across in 32 years.

Grahame was eventually admitted to Rhodes Farm, an eating disorders clinic in Mill Hill, North London, and after six months she began showing signs of improvement. She commented: "I woke up one morning and thought, ‘What are you doing to yourself?’." At the age of 16 Grahame had increased her weight to 6st 4 lb (1.8 kg) and was released from the clinic, though she relapsed again aged 18 and spent time in an adult eating disorder ward. While she was overcoming her eating disorder, she developed obsessive-compulsive disorder (in her case involving a chronic fear of germs), which she still battles with today. Owing to her anorexia, her body never went through puberty properly. She revealed on Channel 4's Supersize vs. Superskinny Me that she had never had a period and never will, owing to her ovaries not having matured properly, and as a consequence, will never be able to have children.

her favorite character ? Alice in Wonderland
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/NikkiNowmag.jpg

[quiranitramsab]

Well yes , I think it is quite funny , because I wanted to post this reply since some days ago , but first I wanted to finish reading trough the whole thread .

So if Prince had a partner who was some kind of MK slave , then probably he was also one , or even a handler .
Only speculating really , but what is for sure that he popularized some sort of androgyn aesthetics , and some of his lyrics contained disgusting stuff like incest . Maybe the " controllers " made him do that ...

On the other hand he also had some good stuff , like gospel-influenced songs , with uplifting lyrics ( even before his conversion to the Jehovas ) .

I do not really know where to place him , because contrary to other artists , he is not being researched on so much by " conspiracy theorists " like other artists .

[seaweed]

Nicola Rachele-Beth Grahame (born April 28, 1982)

Beth, that's Madeleine McCann's middle name. Not Elizabeth, but Beth, second letter of the Hebrew alphabet.

Rachel means 'Ewe, a female sheep'; and Beth means 'house'. So, Princess Nikki was born to end up in the ultimate house of sheep, Big Brother.

[moonshine]

great posts, Moonshine. It is becoming apparent that the writers, actors, directors of this stuff tend to leave a trail of interconnectedness throughout their careers. Fascinating.

I agree, its all very intriguing.

From the Writer and Director of "Like Minds", Gregory J. Read.

The Madman's Tale
http://i38.tinypic.com/vhwbqt.jpg
A former asylum patient returns to the site of the now-closed institution twenty years later, which lead to grisly flashbacks of dark events that once took place.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1155063/


Gregory J. Read also produced the film "sample people" which starred Kylie.
http://i37.tinypic.com/b5fk3o.jpg

[moonshine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqLwpctSX0E
“Over the Rainbow.” From Fritz’s book: “Some alters live “over the rainbow” and some do not. Both types will use the term “over the rainbow”, but with different meanings attached. For those who live “over the rainbow,” they serve their masters in such a deep hypnotic trance that they perceive reality like it’s a dream….Deeper alters who live “over the rainbow” experience memories/life in the following fashion: faces and porn cameras are airbrushed out of their memory, distinctive marks in the perpetrators such as scars and wrinkles are airbrushed out, colors and lights are very bright due to the total dilation of the pupils while in deep trance, and there is no sense of time for these alters.”



Kylie's Homecoming Tour:

Kylie is stood on a masonic checkerboard mayan pyramid.
http://i33.tinypic.com/slgylz.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/33yge11.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/ih4nk7.jpg
Kylie hypnosises the dancers in a mind control ritual.
http://i34.tinypic.com/24w9fmq.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/14mthyq.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYUnr4P_5Qg

Don't the stairs look familar?
http://i37.tinypic.com/10mr7si.jpg
MC Escher drawing. MC Escher imagery is classic in mind control programming due to its heavy use of illusion

Kylie's butterfly make up.
http://i35.tinypic.com/313loue.jpg

[schaff]

Just found oasis new album cover thought you might like a look we have the butterflies toadstoal[alice in wonderland] nuclear bomb going off black and white crucifixes what looks like the four horsemen of the apocolypse to much to mention so i thought id put this on for you to see what you this.

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/7062/2673511365f5b5b6df1epp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/7062/2673511365f5b5b6df1epp5.a2539f59e7.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=60&i=2673511365f5b5b6df1epp5.jpg)

[cheeb]

it's not a coincidence in that the song's probably about some sexual encounter with another Nikki (Monarch Sex slave/alter)

funny you brought that post up because today i came across Nikki Grahame again.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/Nikki_g.jpg
that's her all bunny'd up in front of a giant spiral on the day she entered the big brother house.





her favorite character ? Alice in Wonderland
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/NikkiNowmag.jpg

Interesting Parallels Going On..:
To Do with Jane Goody And
C.I.A/Monarch/M.K. Ultra:
Mind Control

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9975/jadegoody12306180cb0.jpg
Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger..

Her Perfume Is Even Called
Shhh....

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3559/shhxi8.jpg
Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger..

Shhhh...it!!!!

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6734/jadegoodyhearttc7.jpg
Hearts-Queen Of Hearts

Queen Of Hearts, Alice In Wonderland Trigger.
Princess Di And Bloodline

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2938/jadebn0.jpg

Jade is an ornamental stone.

The trade name Jadite is sometimes applied to translucent/opaque green glass.

Emerald green is often the most favorite color of Monarch slaves because of their Wizard of Oz programming which is usually the foundational programming.

Jade Goody Said,
"I think you should fuck off home", Jade said. "Instead of being a princess here, you should go see the people living in the slums in Calcutta."

Princess Programming

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8669/princessnikkitm2.jpg

Princess Nikki is a reality television show that stars former Big Brother 7 UK house mate, Nikki Grahame.

Nikki

http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/damnsod/Heroes-7.jpg
sign of silence-No Talk Trigger
Nikki, an unwitting sufferer of Dissociative Identity Disorder,

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8966/jessicazq2.jpg
Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger..
Blood And Fractured Mirror

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2787/nikkixj1.jpg
Dissociation By Mirrors Again

.....she is only able to access her power when her alter ego "Jessica" is in control.

[cheeb]

Nikki
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5945/nikitb5.jpg

Another Nikki MK Slave
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2482/blondeambitionso0.jpg

Anna Nicole Smith...

[moonshine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqLwpctSX0E




Kylie's Homecoming Tour:

Kylie is stood on a masonic checkerboard mayan pyramid.
http://i33.tinypic.com/slgylz.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/33yge11.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/ih4nk7.jpg
Kylie hypnosises the dancers in a mind control ritual.
http://i34.tinypic.com/24w9fmq.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/14mthyq.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYUnr4P_5Qg

Don't the stairs look familar?
http://i37.tinypic.com/10mr7si.jpg


Kylie's butterfly make up.
http://i35.tinypic.com/313loue.jpg
Kylie plays a mutilabe of characters in the confide in me video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywd00tNiB20
http://i35.tinypic.com/34djvpv.jpg
Kylie in Front of a Rainbow.

[brown velvet]

Magic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_(film))
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/Magicposter.jpg
Magic is a 1978 film starring Anthony Hopkins and Ann-Margret. Not strictly a horror film, Magic is more correctly categorized as a "psychological thriller." It was written by William Goldman, who also wrote the novel on which it was based. Hopkins and Goldman would work together again in Hearts in Atlantis. Magic tells the story of Charles "Corky" Withers (Hopkins), a man that has just failed his first attempt at professional magic. His mentor says that he needs to have a better show business personality. A year later Corky comes back as a ventriloquist with a foul-mouthed dummy named Fats. His agent Ben Greene (played by Burgess Meredith) is on the verge of signing Corky on for his own television show, but Corky bails out for the Catskills, claiming to be afraid of success. In truth he doesn't want to take the required psychological testing because doctors might find out that he suffers from multiple personality disorder, and that he hears Fats talking to him.

Differences from the novel
There are some major differences from the novel by William Goldman. Although the story and chain of events are not significantly changed from the book, the narrative here is obviously more straight-forward, whereas the book cuts from the aftermath, to Corky's youth and early career, to the present. Perhaps even more significant is the fact that Fats is a dummy is not revealed until midway in to the novel. The film keeps the scene, but it is introduced much earlier, in the second scene. Other changes include:

Corky's real name is "Charles" in the novel
In the novel, Corky has made love forty-six times
Corky's youth is only hinted at in the film. It is told that his father comes from England and his brother is still alive. He is seen with him at a funeral during a flash-back.
Corky's attempted suicide, leading to his discovery of "Fats" is detailed in the novel
Both Corky and "Fats" smoke in the book
The fact that Lake Melody is full of snapping turtles is touched on more in the novel
Ben Greene arrives at Lake Melody earlier in the book
Duke is a silverware salesman in the novel
Corky/Fats kills Duke (and later himself) with his own knives, in more detail


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/26%2008%2008%20Pink/nettedturtlePink-1.jpg


The trailer for this film was pulled from TV due to calls from angry parents who claimed that it gave their children nightmares and frightened them.[citation needed] The trailer in question is less than 30 seconds in length. It features Fats reciting the tagline, after which his eyeballs roll into the back of his head. This is followed by a cast reading, then Fats opens his eyes and gazes to his left.

Tagline
Abracadabra, I sit on his knee.
Presto, change-o, and now he is me!
Hocus Pocus, we take her to bed,
Magic is fun...when you're dead.
The final phrase (as spoken by "Fats" in the trailer) is a bit unclear, and initially he may seem to say "we're dead."


Origins
Though based on an original novel, the story is similar to an episode from the film Dead of Night. Another possible influence is The Great Gabbo, a 1929 film directed by James Cruze and starring Erich Von Stroheim, which features the motif of a mentally-disturbed ventriloquist who has "conversations" with his dummy.


P!nk (http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tattoo/celeb-pink.htm)

Singer has shooting star and angel on back of left shoulder, "what goes around comes around" on right wrist "tru luv" a little higher up, tattoos on upper left thigh "Mr. Pink", oriental style dragon, cartoon cat lower stomach & barcode from album Missundaztood just below hairline at back of neck, frog on left foot, kanji for luck/happiness on right ankle, infinity sign on her hip, red star on hand, dad and brother's army dog tags on left foot, portrait of her dog Elvis, several others...

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/26%2008%2008%20Pink/Pinkstats.jpg

thetattooforum (http://www.thetattooforum.com/alecia-moore-aka-p-nk-s-t7782.html?)
- Memorial tattoo “Sir Corky Moore” and dates, in memory of her childhood dog “Corky”



http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/26%2008%2008%20Pink/pinkPinkbow01.jpg

sure looks different this way round :rolleyes:

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/26%2008%2008%20Pink/pinkjesterbowtats.jpg


http://www.pinkspage.com/sites/pink/files/imagecache/preview/sites/pink/files/photos/amore.jpg

P!nk's Angels (http://www.freewebs.com/pinksangel/pics.htm)

Dogs name: Fucker
Origin of nickname: Turns bright pink when embarrased
Interesting facts: - has a tongue ring
- used to be a gymnast and a talented dancer
- collects frogs *not living* (eg. stuffed animals)
- writes backwards
Manager: James Moore (father)

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/26%2008%2008%20Pink/babypinkroses03a.jpg

XX ?

http://www.freewebs.com/pinksangel/Sexy%20gal.jpg


article (http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=505)
She likes it there, though. She has space to be alone (boyfriend Carey lives in Las Vegas) and play with her two new dogs. Her previous dogs have moved on: Fucker to a quiet life with Pink’s father under the less contentious name of Fred, and Corky to the canine afterlife. Pink recently had his name — SIR CORKY MOORE — tattooed in swirling script on her left arm as a tribute.

Sensitive to the idea of being a ventrilloquists dummy
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/August%2008/26%2008%2008%20Pink/derren.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3dzTAALd8&feature=related



brown.

[cheeb]

Just found oasis new album cover thought you might like a look we have the butterflies toadstoal[alice in wonderland] nuclear bomb going off black and white crucifixes what looks like the four horsemen of the apocolypse to much to mention so i thought id put this on for you to see what you this.

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/7062/2673511365f5b5b6df1epp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/7062/2673511365f5b5b6df1epp5.a2539f59e7.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=60&i=2673511365f5b5b6df1epp5.jpg)

This Oasis Album Has Got An Interesting Cover

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2795/oasisstandingonthes2737np9.jpg

Standing on the Shoulder of Giants is the fourth studio album by the English rock band Oasis, released on February 28, 2000.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4940/wtcempireny7.jpg

The Title When Turned On Its Side:

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5561/monarchia6.jpg

Twin Towers And WTC7...??????

[moonshine]

More MK Ultra themed films directed by Brian De Palma
http://i33.tinypic.com/v3o8oz.jpg
A secret US agency behind the unscrupulous Childres gathers children with parapsychologic abilities and trains them to become killers in war situations. To rescue his son, who was officially declared dead after an arranged accident, the ex-CIA agent Peter investigates against Childres. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077588/plotsummary

http://i34.tinypic.com/2mzdrvk.jpg
Sibling rivalry begins when orphan twins, raised by nuns, are finally separated after years of togethernesshttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070698/

[mrguitarbear]

This Oasis Album Has Got An Interesting Cover

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2795/oasisstandingonthes2737np9.jpg

Standing on the Shoulder of Giants is the fourth studio album by the English rock band Oasis, released on February 28, 2000.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4940/wtcempireny7.jpg

The Title When Turned On Its Side:

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5561/monarchia6.jpg

Twin Towers And WTC7...??????


Whoo , thats freaky ! The Twin Towers are apparently on the album cover , behind the Empire State Building.

The mispelled title ( ' Shoulder ' not ' Shoulders ' ) always seemed mysterious to me , but look at it this way : this means the album title is 29 letters long rather than 30 letters long.

2x9 = 18 = 6+6+6. 2+9 = 11 , or the image of the WTC which looked like a number 11.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/twin_towers_alliance.jpg

The album was released on February 29th 2000 in the US , exactly 18 months and 11 days before the Twin Towers attack.

[mrguitarbear]

http://www.iamfan.com/~nelly_furtado/images/albums/nelly-furtado-try.jpg

' Try ' - Nelly Furtado.

http://www.iamfan.com/~nelly_furtado/images/albums/nelly-furtado-im-like-a-bird.jpg

' I'm Like a Bird ' - Nelly Furtado.

She is another one of the Canadians in the US music industry , along with Avril Lavigne and Celine Dion.

[soulja]

Well yes , I think it is quite funny , because I wanted to post this reply since some days ago , but first I wanted to finish reading trough the whole thread .

So if Prince had a partner who was some kind of MK slave , then probably he was also one , or even a handler .
Only speculating really , but what is for sure that he popularized some sort of androgyn aesthetics , and some of his lyrics contained disgusting stuff like incest . Maybe the " controllers " made him do that ...

On the other hand he also had some good stuff , like gospel-influenced songs , with uplifting lyrics ( even before his conversion to the Jehovas ) .

I do not really know where to place him , because contrary to other artists , he is not being researched on so much by " conspiracy theorists " like other artists .

i've spend so much time looking into that whole MK business now that for me there's just no way someone as high profile as prince isn't involved one way or another.
maybe i'm cynical maybe paranoid but that's my honest opinion. could well be he's a handler running a few slaves ultimately on behalf of whoever it is that runs him.
that whole androgyn style is another thing that comes up again and again in relation to MK.

his symbol seems to be a fusion between the male and female symbol with a spiral build into it.
http://i13.tinypic.com/62ihlop.jpg
i'm just interpreting now and most likely reading too much into it:
the spiral seems to be part of what looks like a trumpet. using the trumpet to spread the androgyn style (symbolized by the female symbol with an arrow(male) at the bottom) the trumpet is an instrument he's a musician, a trumpet is pretty loud means it can be heard from quiet a distance. he's a big star and people all over the world listen to his music.
so maybe they told us straight up what his purpose was/is, through symbolism. the spiral tells us he was hypnotized/Mk'd.


http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/000/656/0000065692_350.jpg
on the yellow brick road..

http://www.irocknroll.com/images/Prince_SA.jpg
dressed like a woman,hearts, also the big black heart looks a bit like Mouse ears/disney silhouette

http://www.ais.org/~wambaugh/prince/graffiti.jpg
one eye style
http://www1.n-joy.de/container/ndr_style_images_default/0,2299,OID895946,00.jpg

http://images.esellerpro.com/2080/I/178/85/images_cds_093624357421.JPG
puppetmaster, snake and eye

about uplifting lyrics, that's the thing with MK even something beautiful and uplifting can be used to contain triggers.

[soulja]

Nikki
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5945/nikitb5.jpg

Another Nikki MK Slave
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2482/blondeambitionso0.jpg

Anna Nicole Smith...

Nicholai "Nicky" Olivia Hilton, Paris Hilton's sister, is another ''NiKKi''
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Nicky_Hilton.jpg/800px-Nicky_Hilton.jpg
winged heart tattoo

Nikki Reed
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/nikki-reed-33.jpg

[soulja]

Nikki[/B]

http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/damnsod/Heroes-7.jpg
sign of silence-No Talk Trigger
Nikki, an unwitting sufferer of Dissociative Identity Disorder,

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8966/jessicazq2.jpg
Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger..
Blood And Fractured Mirror



keep seeing that blood/silence trigger combo. don't talk about the abuse, blood rituals/oaths used to disassociate, remember what happens to people who speak out. etc..

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/s_825421547e8737ad25a5fad54ce9d096.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/YPD-1433.jpg

different style same message imo
http://www.anysale.de/pic/cd/maxis/silence.jpg

[soulja]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/sc00071841.jpg
''Instructions for the two ways of becoming Alice''

13 tracks full of occult/secret society references.
prieure de sion symbol on arm (brotherhood initiate)
not sure bout the symbol on her forehead but it's an MK reference (marked forehead)

[moonshine]

Angelina Jolie : One of her Back Tattoos -
http://i36.tinypic.com/fd7jm1.jpg

Know your rights?

Picture of Angelina Jolie’s prayer tattoo which reads “A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages.”
http://i33.tinypic.com/s4cq54.jpg

[hunkahunka]

Brown, you might find this guy interesting. This is the guy who co-wrote 'Self-Control' with Raff, Giancarlo Bigazzi

He is gay and has a band called Squallor

Here they are wearing diapers:

http://www.galleriadellacanzone.it/canzoni/anni80/schede/selfcon/pic/squallor.jpg
Alfredo Cerruti, Giancarlo Bigazzi, Daniele Pace of 'Squallor'

http://cover6.cduniverse.com/msiart/0000128/0000128848_170.jpg
alice in wonderland mushroom

http://www.starzik.com/album_thumb.php?ID=19824&H=160&W=160
angel wings

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51J6KPEP3TL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
more diaper/ Kurt Cobainesque 'fecal matter' symbology

http://www.carlocasale.it/images/front-squallor-sito.jpg
gender dissociation cross-dressing

http://www.squallor.com/album/images/originali/Manzo.jpg
Becoming the Bull?

http://www.squallor.com/album/images/originali/Troia.jpg
trojan horse, Troia means 'Troy', Greek warriors invaded walled city of Troy by hiding in Trojan horse

[cheeb]

More MK Ultra themed films directed by Brian De Palma
http://i33.tinypic.com/v3o8oz.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077588/plotsummary

http://i34.tinypic.com/2mzdrvk.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070698/

Soulja,I Was At A Festival For The Weekend,
And..:
It Was An Eye Opener To See How Much Of This Stuff,
Has "Infected" The Mainstream...
Butterfly Tattoos,
Fairy Wings,
Masks,
There Was Even Someone Dressed Up Like Dorothy Out Of The Wizard Of Oz,
As Well As A Whole Host Of Skull And Bones Pirates,

Maybe It's Paranoia,
I Am Not Saying Anyyone There Was MK Ultra,
It's Just That This Imagery Seems Very Prevalent At The Moment...!!!!

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2508/briandepalmawb0.jpg
Full name, Brian Russell De Palma; born September 11, 1940, in Newark, NJ;

September 11, The Irony Of That....

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2733/brucespringsteenvo3.jpg

He directed Bruce Springsteen's "Dancing In The Dark" music video.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk8VZgJkpeg

Looks Like "genuine footage" From
The Boss concert.....

But It's Fake And Stage Managed..

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8540/courtneycoxbrucespringsnp6.jpg
Courtney Cox,
An Actress Playing A Role As Starstruck Fan.....

Courtney Cox

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9861/dirtrw6.jpg
Dirt- Sign Of Silence Similarity...

Spiller, played by Cox, is joined by a loyal but schizophrenic photographer Don Konkey, played by Ian Hart, a Liverpudlian, who brings quite a bit of talent to the show. With a handful of movie roles behind him, including two acclaimed roles as the slain Beatle, John Lennon.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8355/screamjj8.jpg
One Eye. Exadurated M...

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8797/tripper2wr2.jpg
Red Eye, And To Me It Looks Like A Smiley Face On The Bloodied Hand...

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6981/tripperab1.jpg
Detached Hand With Pentagram On Wrist,
Subliminals inSmoke...!!!

Standard Slasher Fayre
The Plot:
In the present days, Samantha (Jamie King), who is traumatized after being abused by her former boyfriend Jimmy (Balthazar Getty), travels with her pothead friends in a van to the American Free Love Festival, a rock-and-roll concert in the woods. Near the location, they are assaulted by three local hillbillies, but they succeed to arrive in the festival. Meanwhile, Mayor Hal Burton (Rick Overton) and Deputy Buzz Hall (Thomas Jane) try to give a minimum of organization to the event. However, a deranged psychopath serial-killer wearing a mask of Ronald Reagan uses an ax to kill the pacific stoned hippies.


http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8553/briandepalmazx7.jpg

Brian De Palma And A Similar Detached Hand "Theme"

[soulja]

Beth, that's Madeleine McCann's middle name. Not Elizabeth, but Beth, second letter of the Hebrew alphabet.

Rachel means 'Ewe, a female sheep'; and Beth means 'house'. So, Princess Nikki was born to end up in the ultimate house of sheep, Big Brother.

interesting.. not sure if her name was given to her because it was planned even before her birth that she'd enter the BB house. but beth/house as in bloodline reference is interesting enough for me. rachel/sheep as in unofficial bloodliner herself being not aware of it and therfor a sheep ? hierarchy/level reference ?

i remember you were the one who pointed that whole Oprah/Harpo - harpocrates connection out to me. that greek god associated with silence and secrecy.

http://www.subrosamagick.com/images/Harpocrates.gif
i read in one of david's books that the Hellfire Club used to have a statue of Harpocrates at their secret meeting grounds.

http://www.hermetics.org/images/eq.jpg
Aleister Crowley making the sign of silence

[moonshine]

Asia Argento Tattoos:

A Naked Angel -
http://i34.tinypic.com/2ibyo49.jpg

23 -
http://i36.tinypic.com/2w1wsae.jpg

In a recent film version of Alice in Wonderland a stuffed Rabbit comes alive and runs away from a case numbered 23.


***2/3= .666 the number of the beast

There are 23 chapters of the Cult Awareness Network

"Scottish Rite Freemasonry" has 23 letters.

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:uRyFtIRBpDoJ:www.geocities.com/fairyoflyonnesse/+23+number+in+wonderland&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=uk

[moonshine]

Brian Russell De Palma; born September 11, 1940, in Newark, NJ

Well spotted cheeb, i didn't bother checking his bio for his date of birth.

I think De Palma is another CIA hollywood puppet like Gus Van Sant, he seems to know a hell of a lot about mind control. Check most of his films, mind control features in most of his films.

Just to name some:
Dressed to Kill, Obsession, Murder à la Mod and Carrie.

[moonshine]

Picture of Angelina Jolie’s prayer tattoo which reads “A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages.”
http://i33.tinypic.com/s4cq54.jpg


That tattoo reminded me of this:
After these 18 months, the splitting of the child's psyche is next. The child is put in a cage, where it is given heavy electro-shocks. The feelings of the child are so manipulated that the child grows numb in feelings. They let the child in hunger, in cold, naked. After 42 up to 72 hours of immense suffering, the child is exposed to it's programmer. This meeting is deeply emotional for the child, because it makes the child happy and makes the child think that help has arrived. At this specific moment, the programmer transforms himself to the most horrific person the child ever has seen. The child cannot bring the two extremes (1: the lovingly programmer for 18 months 2: the programmer changes into the worst torturer of the child) together in it's mind and the mind will be ready to split, and create a new personality.

After a test after these 18 months, to see if the mind is well prepared for the real programming, they start the real work. The best example for this is the work of Mengele, performed in an old Californian airport, in a big hangar. Here were 2 to 3.000 children stationed and prepared as slaves. This hangar had thousand small cages, just big enough for a baby. Wired to electric circuits, so that at any given time, they could give them electro-shocks. The children were also exposed to bright light-flashes, as means of hypnosis to change the children's mental state. These cages were used for several days, and then the programmers started with raping the children in many ways possible, as brutal and beast-like possible. The children were also exposed to images, to influence their subconscience. What is important here is to know that both eyes were shown different images. The right eye was shown positive images/films such as fairytales and the left eye was shown a horror film, showing horrific porn images, actual killings, ritual cruelty.

What also was done to the children was that they were put in cages filled with spiders and snakes. While doing this they inserted the children with all kinds of drugs, with LSD as mostly used substance. The programmed slaves also had to watch how the skin was removed from other children, while living. They were shown these deaths frequently, all for the purpose of creating deep trauma so that their plans would succeed, and the alters are created. The children are forced to do the same skin-peeling to animals like cats, dogs and rabbits, while watching other children being raped in every way possible. Some survivors from these programs even remember victims being cooked and eaten, and of the baby-fat, candles were made.

Also is well-documented that the children were forced to watch other children burn to ashes. This trauma is very important in the programming because after this trauma, the child's will is so heavily broken, that the next stage for the child-slave is being let down in a deep pit in the ground, where the programmer starts ordering things to the child like, cut yourself, give yourself electro-shocks. After this, the child's will is fully broken and replaced by the state of a total manipulated, controllable and dependable slave. The weak and strong abilities of the child are deepened out and worked with, so that later the decision is made what purpose the slave will be programmed for.

http://www.freewebs.com/destroyilluminati/ciaprojects.htm

[cheeb]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/sc00071841.jpg
''Instructions for the two ways of becoming Alice''

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2797/plantardjl7.jpg

13 tracks full of occult/secret society references.
prieure de sion symbol on arm (brotherhood initiate)
not sure bout the symbol on her forehead but it's an MK reference (marked forehead)

It Has Got That Heath Ledger Touch To It Though...

And That The Fleur De Lys,
Is A Stylised Bee,

The Mk Ultra Trigger For Suicibe....

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2951/heathledgerhanging3lj3.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3673/heathledgerhanging2pz7.png

What The Hell Is This Subliminal...:

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5352/penissubliminalhv0.jpg

[hunkahunka]

[B]Soulja,I Was At A Festival For The Weekend,
And..:
It Was An Eye Opener To See How Much Of This Stuff,
Has "Infected" The Mainstream...
Butterfly Tattoos,
Fairy Wings,
Masks,
There Was Even Someone Dressed Up Like Dorothy Out Of The Wizard Of Oz,
As Well As A Whole Host Of Skull And Bones Pirates,

Maybe It's Paranoia,
I Am Not Saying Anyyone There Was MK Ultra,
It's Just That This Imagery Seems Very Prevalent At The Moment...!!!!


I have heard the estimates of Springmeir and others who feel that there are millions of mk slaves out there. I am beginning to believe it.
Rock concerts would have a high concentration of these people. Imagine an Elton John concert, for example. Imagine the cult atmosphere there.

Also, I personally outgrew the electric thrill of moving to music at around age five. I have often wondered if I was strange, damaged goods, for no longer getting such a thrill out of rock music, or if I was normal, and there was something 'different' about people who still thrilled to dancing even into adulthood. Could it be that child alters are drawn to rock concerts/discos, etc., because they experience, there, what I once experienced as a four year old, listening to rock for the first time? There could be a core of these alters,
and a huge coterie of conforming 'taggers along' who are peer pressured to go to such places. Just speculating.
Also, drugs are central to the whole thing. MAybe I could experience the same euphoric feelings of early life if I used the same
drugs that these people are on.

I dragged myself to concerts in my teens because I wanted to fit in, and thought I'd have a good time, but I always found the whole experience childish beyond belief.

I tried to dance to rock music at school dances, with essentially the same feeling that I was somehow 'not getting it', ie: wondering what was supposed to be so much fun about dancing on a gym floor to songs with words that no one really understood. Again, I felt pretty childish
and silly. Maybe I was suffering depression, and the other kids were normal.
I don't know. I couldn't see the thrill in it.

In the city where I live , they had a 'gay pride' week this summer, and one of the posters they put up all over downtown on telephone poles was these
big full color 'Angels and Demons Dance' ads. The posters featured women with bare backs and angel wing tattoos on their backs,
and men with bat wings tattooed onto their backs. I searched their site to see if they had an online version that I could post here, but it was not available at their site. I wish I'd been able to get one of the posters, scan it and post it in full color. THe money that is being spent on the gay agenda brainwashing is staggering.

[somoteitbe]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Ys_cover.jpg
Never have heard her music before, but this album raised an eyebrow.

[hunkahunka]

Anyone else think this could be mk related?

http://www.thisisoxfordshire.co.uk/display.var.2430836.0.0.php?act=complaint&cid=1847868

http://images.newsquest.co.uk/image.php?id=1062851&type=full
Matthew Turpin


Prince lookalike died in his sleep

A semi-professional Prince William lookalike who appeared on Blue Peter and Celebrity Stars in Their Eyes died in his sleep, an inquest heard today.

Matthew Turpin was suffering from an undiagnosed heart defect when he died on March 31. The 24-year-old funded his university degree with public appearances as "the number one Prince William lookalike", Oxford coroner Nicholas Gardiner heard.

Mr Turpin appeared fit and healthy when he last saw his parents at their home in Nottingham, a week before he was found dead at his home in Walker's Barn, Heathfield. The alarm was raised after he did not appear for his financial analyst's job.

After attempts to phone and email him by family members, his father drove from Nottingham to Heathfield but he was met by paramedics at the house.

Pc Paul Coombes said there were no suspicious circumstances and that the young man had died in his sleep. A post mortem examination failed to reveal the cause of death, but subsequent tests on Mr Turpin's vital organs by specialists revealed symptoms of cardio-myopathopy - a natural condition that can cause sudden death.

Mr Gardiner recorded a verdict of death by natural causes at the hearing at County Hall in Oxford.
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After the hearing, father Patrick Turpin, 59, added: "With this illness you don't know if you have got it and you can go to sleep and not wake up. How can anybody come to terms with that?"

Nothing suspicious about a healthy 24 year old who happens to look almost exactly like Prince William being found
dead alone,with no evident cause of death, and then some concocted explanation of his simply 'dying in his sleep', 'of natural causes'.

Maybe something else happened to him. Maybe he was in the process of being 'adopted' by MI6 and didn't live through his mk trauma conditioning?

I have to consider what a tempting mk asset/target he would have been, as well as the suspicious nature of his death.

[americana]

[QUOTE=cheeb;474537][SIZE="3"]The Plot:
In the present days, Samantha (Jamie King), who is traumatized after being abused by her former boyfriend Jimmy (Balthazar Getty), travels with her pothead friends in a van to the American Free Love Festival, a rock-and-roll concert in the woods. Near the location, they are assaulted by three local hillbillies, but they succeed to arrive in the festival. Meanwhile, Mayor Hal Burton (Rick Overton) and Deputy Buzz Hall (Thomas Jane) try to give a minimum of organization to the event. However, a deranged psychopath serial-killer wearing a mask of Ronald Reagan uses an ax to kill the pacific stoned hippies.


QUOTE]

It's intriguing who's in the movie.

Jamie King was originally known as JAMES King, a model.

While I just read on Wikipedia that James was a childhood nickname, it was my understanding she was renamed "James" by a modeling agent because there was another big "Jamie" model at the time, Jamie Rishar.

I recall first seeing James King's photographs by downtown diva Nan Goldin, in the New York Times magazine, along with an article. One thing I recall about her is that it said she wrote and drew in a journal all the time.

As she transitioned to movies, she became known as Jamie.

She is a sort of "pixie-faced" model, one of the early batch. Associated with "heroin chic".

And Balthazar Getty is . . . a GETTY!



Ummm . . . as far as the "blog" or the posts by that MK Slave whose "handler" was allegedly Springsteen, has anyone read the whole 400 pages? I found the AURA of the site to be so negative, so evil, that I did not feel I could go on after around 7-10 pages.

Obviously, that's not enough to make a judgment, but BlueAngel's childish attempt to tease "George Bush" into saying he wanted to know the name of her handler was annoying at best.

Well, perhaps it was a child alter writing. I dunno, but her text as a whole is very "worked out", very well written.

I cannot understand why she would post there, and not write out a text and post it somewhere, in full, so that it can be more easily read and understood. She wants her story to be known, but what an odd way to go about it!

There are so many distracting posts in between and little games being played. I don't like it.

It is very interesting, though, as I know of someone who is brilliant and perhaps an abused, even MK Ultra victim HIMSELF, who constantly uses Springsteen lyrics to attract "damaged" women. This is indeed a merry-go-round.

[soulja]

[B]Soulja,I Was At A Festival For The Weekend,
And..:
It Was An Eye Opener To See How Much Of This Stuff,
Has "Infected" The Mainstream...
Butterfly Tattoos,
Fairy Wings,
Masks,
There Was Even Someone Dressed Up Like Dorothy Out Of The Wizard Of Oz,
As Well As A Whole Host Of Skull And Bones Pirates,

Maybe It's Paranoia,
I Am Not Saying Anyyone There Was MK Ultra,
It's Just That This Imagery Seems Very Prevalent At The Moment...!!!!



hope you had a good time man, talking bout festivals, pirate theme, butterflies and fairies reminds me at this one here
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/LIVE-151-1.jpg

i think why these symbols are all around us is due several factors really.

one big reason are celebs, ''our'' rolemodels, we listen to their music copy their style and thereby their symbols. for example the pirate/skulls theme is all over youthculture, one could make an entire thread about celebs and the skull motive.
another reason is a rather harmless one, i think even without the MK connection and without the media pushing those symbols girls would still love butterflies, fairies and rainbows while boys would still regard pirates and skulls, knights and so on as cool.

also i think hunka raised a good point when he pointed out that MK's will be drawn to certain events. like he said they are in the millions and like svali and springmeier pointed out to find in all walks of life.

if you look into the fashion industrie you'll see Mk motives pushed the same goes for musik and film industrie.
it's also a good smokescreen because so many people are into these symbols it doesn't stand out when a few seem obsessed with them and certain themes like Oz and Wonderland.
and of course another reason to put them all around us is the trigger/reminder effect.

one thing slaves are told again and again is ''you can't run away'' ''we are everywhere'' etc..
well a slave just needs to turn on the tube, listen to the radio, walk through their city and they will constantly come across symbols and phrases tied into MK. springmeier calls this ''the control of the milieu''

[americana]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3126/2512151310_a830200c94.jpg?v=0

Another set of "dolls"/ tools/ programming objects.

[soulja]

It Has Got That Heath Ledger Touch To It Though...

And That The Fleur De Lys,
Is A Stylised Bee,

The Mk Ultra Trigger For Suicibe....

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2951/heathledgerhanging3lj3.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3673/heathledgerhanging2pz7.png

What The Hell Is This Subliminal...:

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5352/penissubliminalhv0.jpg

can't make out the subliminal but christ that ledger pics are in ya face!
never seen them before, pyramid on his forehead with a skull inside and what looks like a greek letter on the left. 3 on the right (or isit a B?) together it could also be seen as 13, wich is death in some tarot decks.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4/nsbishop/13-Death-BW100.jpg

[soulja]

the Jonas Brothers are another disney creation/cash cow
http://www.pe.com/imagesdaily/2008/05-09/disney_channel_games_red_ca_400.jpg

http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/entertainment/08/05/07_jonasexplosion_lgl.jpg

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc219/rhondajonas/kojihu.jpg
stylized 13 in their logo

http://activerain.com/image_store/uploads/5/5/5/1/8/ar120727320481555.jpg
skull anchor combo very templar style plus the masonic square

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/00/A_Little_Bit_Longer_CD_Cover.JPG/200px-A_Little_Bit_Longer_CD_Cover.JPG
''under the umbrella''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Brothers

[soulja]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/BannerforNETWORKINGSITENEWBUSEINSS.jpg

[cheeb]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/sc00071841.jpg
''Instructions for the two ways of becoming Alice''

13 tracks full of occult/secret society references.
prieure de sion symbol on arm (brotherhood initiate)
not sure bout the symbol on her forehead but it's an MK reference (marked forehead)

That Symbol On Her Forehead is:

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3981/topda3.jpg

Four Pi

... the cult, “is also deeply involved in white slavery, child pornography and the international narcotics trade.” Sanders alluded to serial “weird ritual mutilations and animal sacrifices” apparently committed in the Santa Cruz Mountains by a Process incarnation called the Four Pi.

An Offshoot Of The Process Church Of Final Judgement..!!!!

Originally Posted By Brown:

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Genesis P Orridge With Process Symbol On Arm...

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Hardly Surprising Though:

Many of the Tentents of The Temple Of Psychic Youth (TOPY) were based upon the teachings of DeGrimstone. After recieveing the boot from TOPY in the 1990’s, Genesis P. Orridge (along with members of Skinny Puppy) revived the Process Church. Genesis (a man of very short attention) has now morphed this version of The Process Church into a new group called Thee Outer Process International (TOPI).

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This symbol was prominent in the literature of the Process Church of the Final Judgement.

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While there is no evidence that McCartney ever participated in the church or even accepted any of its teachings, he did agree, along with his girlfriend Jane Asher to be interviewed for the “Fear Issue” of its magazine,

Another Process Symbol

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This Has Turned Up A Lot On This Thread..!!!

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After "The BEATLES" album is released, "the Manson family" takes it to heart, just as programmed by their mind-masters in the cryptocracy. Two key figures at the scene of Tate-La Bianca murders were Tex Watson and Sadie Atkins, who displayed symptoms of being mind control subjects. (Another, Bobby Beausoleil, starred in and like Mick Jagger contributed music to the aforementoined Process Church film, Lucifer Rising.)

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Avant-garde filmmaker Kenneth Anger chanced upon a performance of The Orkustra at the legendary San Francisco happening known as The Invisible Circus. Impressed more with Beausoleil’s magnetic stage presence than the music itself, he asked the young musician to play the title role in his next planned film, Lucifer Rising. Beausoleil agreed, as long as his band could perform the music for the film. Throwing himself deep into the project, he ended up alienating his other band members, who left. Undaunted, Beausoleil formed a new band, The Magick Powerhouse of Oz

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