Cobain murdered by CIA

[hunkahunka]

Anyone hear about this story on the Chinese guy in Canada who just stabbed and beheaded a passenger on an intercity Greyhound Bus? They were playing the movie "The Legend of Zorro" on the bus.


Passenger beheaded on Canada busThursday, 31 July 2008
A man on a Greyhound bus travelling across the Canadian Prairies has killed and decapitated a fellow passenger:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7535840.stm
Tape: Officer said bus killer ate part of victim
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/international/americas/view/2008_08_02_Tape:_Officer_said_bus_killer_ate_part_ of_victim/srvc=home&position=recent


it turns out the greyhound bus killer was a nighttime delivery worker for an Edmonton newspaper.
Coincidentally, I recently posted a theory on adult newspaper carriers and graffiti/littering/crime
on the David Icke forum. About three weeks ago, I posted suspicions that
a sophisticated intelligence ring might be using early-morning/night time news delivery people to do their late-night dirty-work, as the perfect cover .

The asian bus killer reportedly worked as a newspaper delivery worker, and imo may have been one of the people who refill and maintain the Edmonton Sun newspaper boxes, and leave bundles of papers at stores etc.

I know for a fact that the Edmonton Sun employs brand new asian immigrants at its nighttime newspaper assembly lines, likely many of whom are illegal aliens who use false ID and/or work for cash under the table.(I worked there at night years ago, with a large group of such people)

A couple of weeks ago it struck me that this job would the perfect cover for covert activity,
because it enables people to drive about randomly at all hours of the morning without arousing
the suspicion of the police.

Say the police were to get a report of someone doing 'tagging' , respond, and arrive too late, but stop a suspicious car driving around the area at 3:40 am, and find that its just a news paper delivery guy. The guy has an instant explanation for why he is out driving at that hour. He could be the one doing it, but no one would suspect anything, because he has a legit reason for being out,
appears to be a respectable , sober, and employed person, etc.
Or some one goes missing in the area late at night, and the last car spotted in the area is a newspaper delivery vehicle. Another instant alibi.

So , what if someone is paying these people, desperate illegals etc. , to do things like 'tag', litter, deliver drugs, abduct people, etc. late at night. They hire psychopaths, and a portion of these desperate illegals are people who have been 'monarched', ie: abducted and given new identities,
and trafficked to other countries to 'do work' on behalf of you know who.

Which brings us back to this guy who just stabbed, decapitated, and partially ate someone on the Greyhound bus on Thursday.


The bloody killing occurred as some passenger were napping and others watching "The Legend of Zorro" on television screens inside the bus. Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said there were 37 passengers on the bus at the time.


Something in the 'Zorro' film may have triggered him. My guess: maybe the guy was a monarch, and something (the mask?) in the film set him off.

http://www.soundwavescinema.com/Cinema/2005/Images/LegendZorroA-Poster.jpg

Or maybe he was a big Playstation 2/ online 'gamer'? Check out this 'Shadow of Zorro' game:

http://rudeya.ru/uploads/posts/2008-04/1207030166_a9c3727b5563.jpg
or the online multiple player game link:
http://www.mofunzone.com/online_games/legend_of_zorro_game.shtml#

[hunkahunka]

Maybe he had a Playstation 2 at home?

check out this actual footage from the Shadow of Zorro game:
Youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywCL5JTcpok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1CL2Z8owOY


The Shadow of Zorro

Published by
DreamCatcher Interactive Inc.
Developed by In Utero
Released
Feb 08, 2002

This is a 3D Action-Adventure with a lot of dagger-fighting. You can also choose the difficulty level.

[mrguitarbear]

The Boston Herald link leads to a ' page not available ' error , they've removed that one already.

Canberra Times article : Suspect 'ate' victim (http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/bus-killing-suspect-ate-victim-police-say/1234192.aspx)

[mrguitarbear]

This killer was about 40 , maybe he started remembering some of his ' programming ' and that drove him insane. It seems pretty clear that the victim was just an ' ordinary Joe ' and I wouldn't have thought he would have been a target for assassination , certainly not including cannibalism or decapitation.

' The Legend of Zorro ' could have unwittingly triggered a flashback for the killer - the tight black costume , the black mask , a reminiscence of ninjas or people dressed in black or something etc.

In fact , I don't think that this story makes any sense unless you factor in some sort of MK programming - but most people who watch the news won't know anything about this. Put it down to a lone psycho attack.

[hunkahunka]

This killer was about 40 , maybe he started remembering some of his ' programming ' and that drove him insane. It seems pretty clear that the victim was just an ' ordinary Joe ' and I wouldn't have thought he would have been a target for assassination , certainly not including cannibalism or decapitation.

' The Legend of Zorro ' could have unwittingly triggered a flashback for the killer - the tight black costume , the black mask , a reminiscence of ninjas or people dressed in black or something etc.

In fact , I don't think that this story makes any sense unless you factor in some sort of MK programming - but most people who watch the news won't know anything about this. Put it down to a lone psycho attack.

I think it was a bizarre combination of factors, yes.
I think he was MK programmed, and maybe he was big into video gaming, liked to carry a big knife around with him 'for protection', so he was obviously getting deranged by his addiction to the game. The Zorro game would send him into the 'waking dream state' discussed earlier, each time he played it.
My guess: watching the movie Zorro on the bus sent him into the waking dream state again, and being helpless to participate in what his heavily addicted mind subconsciously perceived as 'the game', sent him over the edge, and he began 'playing' with his seat mate. :o

echoes of Columbine, Virginia Tech etc.

http://pspartout.blog.playersrepublic.fr/images/medium_logo-playstation.jpg
Rainbows, reflections, anyone?

[hunkahunka]

http://nikkita.n.i.pic.centerblog.net/3znod69x.jpg
video of 'Beef' singing 'Life at Last' click here for video page:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4tsvb_beef-life-at-last_music



the end of this song has always sickened me: the guy is not only electrocuted, but he is repeatedly tortured. He screams not once, not twice, but three times. Not even nature is that cruel. When you are electrocuted, you get zapped, and you black out. Not here. This guy 'Beef' is tortured like a MK project. It is so sadistic. And hows that for a cute name: "Beef".
Sexual connotations? Or maybe more? Well, here's a clue: In the script, "Beef" gets cooked at the end.

l

[mrguitarbear]

I wonder if the recent murder of Caroline Mullaney on Antigua is in any way connected to HM Government activities , she was a doctor after all.

Keep the population in fear and all that.

[rixxmixxhell]

Hi - i thought i'd post this, maybe might be interesting to others:):confused:

Alanis Morissette (album 2002), 'Feast on Scraps'.

(Pictured below, i hope)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512O16762LL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Large butterfly with Alanis head shot being behind it.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/203-4685747-6164748?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=feast+on+scraps&x=0&y=0

Lyrics to each song from ''Feast on Scraps'' album here: -

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/fearofbliss.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/bent4u.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/sorrytomyself.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/sisterblister.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/offer.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/unprodigaldaughter.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/simpletogether.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/purgatorying.html
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/alanismorissette/handscleanacoustic.html

I have been a male 'fan' of her for a few years now. This album is actually my favourite of the 6 others or so. (Not including her child days before 'Jagged Little Pill' so post 1995)

I particularly like the open and thoughtful lyrics on it, that to which i relate to in some form or another and more so the music style of the album. I like butterflies too because i study Animal Science so naturally i see it differently to others looking for something else.

I am familiar with how subliminal messages and code words work, as explored on this thread and the one i posted of 'Butterfly monarch comprehensive'.
(I can't remember the authors name to that book..)
HERE:>
(http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31382 )
-
But - i'm not too good at sorting this information, so i could be missing something from this album that would confirm to me that this album and Alanis herself has/is ''used''?

An interesting and important note. Alanis Morissette was 'professionally discovered' by none other than Madonna. I need not to go into Madonna!
Picture of her Pyramid Jacket on)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/83/270215092_fe4418eed6.jpg?v=1160925777

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://farm1.static.flickr.com/83/270215092_fe4418eed6.jpg%3Fv%3D1160925777&imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/23bit_grrrl/270215092/&h=500&w=375&sz=157&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=7pdDDw8KU83wTM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=98&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmadonna%2Bpyramid%2Bjacket%26um%3D1%2 6hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26hs%3Dxnx%26sa%3DG

But, i dont feel to suspicious of this album at least, Alanis has said many times that growing up she felt like a, 'butterfly' changing from a Catapiler. I.E - 'growing', 'changing', 'becoming'.
I have used this as metaphor many times myself (another thing i can relate with to her) - and used it in college/uni presentations and assignments (to describe things). She has always been a strong women from a young age and always been 'at war' with her concious.

Maybe others here may know otherwise, like i said, i know she was discovered (or was she!!??:confused::confused: Maybe they got to her??) by Madonna, and she has a large butterfly on her album cover, but this may all be coincidental, or at least, unrelated to any nefarious acts?

Well thats all i got i suppose.

And i listened to the Album earlier:o:o

Rick:)

[bobthegoon]

So much great info in this thread, it's mind boggling!

Some of you might have seen this blog already but it is a must read concerning the content in this thread -

http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/

Keep the info coming!

[broken silence]

Cobain was definitely killed by the Illuminati in my opinion, just look at all the info on this thread, not a coincidence.

Another "litle girl/daddy" connection
Negative Creep

This is out of our range (x3)
no
This is getting to be (x3)
gross
I'm a negative creep (x3)
and I'm stoned
I'm a negative creep (x3)
and I'm
I'm
Daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more (x6)

This is out of our range (x3)
no
This is getting to be (x3)
gross
I'm a negative creep (x3)
and I'm stoned
I'm a negative creep (x3)
and I'm
I'm
Daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more (x4)

Daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more (x8)

This one says it all, from the In Utero album...

Rape me
Rape me my friend,
Rape me,
Rape me again.

Chorus:

I'm not the only one [x4]

Hate me,
Do it, and do it again.

Waste me,
Taste me, my friend.

Chorus

My favorite inside source,
I'll kiss your open sores,
Appreciate your concern
You'll always stink and burn.

Chorus

Rape me
Rape me
...

Also found some more Big Country stuff. Stuart Adamson was born on 11/4/58 and was found hanged in a Honalulu hotel room age 43,
on December 16th 2001. Cause of death was asphixia due to hanging according to the local police, although the prelim exam of the body by the local coroner gave the COD as an overdose. What, he didn`t notice the rope round his neck the first time? Very dodgy.

In 1990 Big Country released an album called "No place like home". They also had songs called "Were not in Kansas" and "Wonderland". The first single from No place like home was called...."Republican Party Reptile". You couldn`t make this up.

Republican Party Reptile"
My cousin PJ gets crazy just as much as he can
A real party reptile for a northern man
He’s dressed like a republican
He thinks conservative
But he drives faster than I ever did
He’s into nuclear power and insider deals
He has a scene with baby oil and heels
He’s my favorite politician
When he comes on weird
Says I’m not fit for this office let’s get out of here
My, my, loves his ma and apple pie
Well, well, he’s the party’s favorite guy
I hope you like it
You know I’m going to take good care of you
I hope you like it
I hope next time you bring your friends with you
He’s a drinkin’, huntin’, shootin’, fishin’ son of a gun
He knows a surgeon’s gonna keep his wife young
Got industrial kickbacks in an offshore bank
Knows who to stand on and he knows how to thank
I hope you like it
You know I’m going to take good care of you
I hope you like it
I hope next time you bring your friends with you
My, my, loves his ma and apple pie
Well, well, he’s the party’s favorite guy
He likes to come take me for a night with the boys
He talks about the NRA and their toys
Got an automatic rifle in his pick up truck
He drives me home when he’s in no state to walk My, my, loves his ma and apple pie
Well, well, he’s the party’s favorite guy
I hope you like it
You know I’m going to take good care of you
I hope you like it
I hope next time you bring your friends with you
I hope you like it
Love it, like it
I hope you like it
Love it, like it

He knew what he was talking about and was screaming out for help wasn`t he? "No place like home" bombed and led to a record company split. I wonder why?
http://gilliver.net/music/bigcountry/pix/noplace.jpg http://www.mattscdsingles.com/acatalog/13219.jpg

The last highlighted section sounds similar to the Most dangerous game as described in Cathy O`Briens book, taking slaves naked into the woods and hunting them with live ammo in a drug induced altered state.

I wonder who he is talking about in this song?

[soulja]

i had a quick look through that pseudooccultmedia blog, looks great so far.

think i'll spend the next hour or so reading through the guys(?) work properly.

regarding that guy on the bus who went berserk, i already said in another thread that i'm pretty sure he was under MK, also cheeb made a good post about it.

The Eyewitness Details Would Tend To Suggest That.

Warning Not For The Sqeamish...

Passengers attempt rescue

Caton gathered a small group of people to go back and help the victim, said CTV correspondent Murray Oliver in Winnipeg.

"They returned to the back of the bus to find that the person who was stabbing the person in the neck had now sawed off the head of (the victim)."

The man, with the head in one hand and the knife in the other, then tried to attack the other passengers, said Oliver.

The group was able to exit the bus and slammed the door behind them.

The man then stabbed the door with his knife but was unable to break through and get off the bus. Eventually, he attempted to start up the bus to drive away but the operator had hit a switch, disabling the vehicle.

Oliver said a truck driver then arrived at the scene and handed out wrenches and crowbars to several men. The small group gathered around the door to the bus and prevented the man from exiting until police arrived.

Cody Olmstead, a Nova Scotia man who was on the bus, said that the killer taunted the men who were blocking the door from the outside.

"He cut (the victim's) head off and then walked up to the door holding it and just looked at them crazy-like and then dropped the head and walked back to the body and started cutting it some more," Olmstead told CTV News from outside a hotel in Brandon, Man., where he and other passengers were taken.

The man was left alone with the body and witnesses say that he performed further indignities to the victim.

"We have word from people on the scene . . . that when the killer was alone with the body . . . that there may have been some small acts of cannibalism on the body," Oliver said.

Oliver said that police have not confirmed that, but have not denied it either.

Criminal profiler Pat Brown told CTV Newsnet that the killing may have been planned in advance, even if the choice of victim was completely random.

"This may have been planned -- to have this moment of rage," she said.

A number of witnesses referred to the suspect's actions as "robot-like." Brown said that fits the profile of some high-profile psychopaths who go into a "trance" while performing ghastly acts, ignoring the world around them.

The suspect

RCMP eventually arrested the man after a standoff lasting several hours, said Oliver.

Witnesses said the suspect was tall, large and wearing sunglasses, even though it was dark.

David Eastwick, a passenger on the bus, told CTV News that he noticed that there seemed to be something "wrong" with the suspect even before the attack.

"He look kind of suspicious when I saw him," a clearly-tired Eastwick said Thursday. "Most people if you say 'Hi' to them they say 'Hi' back to you but this one just looked back and (stared.)"

"I knew something was wrong (with) his mind."

G

another important clue for MK is the fact that the killer couldn't remember the atrocious act. (why ? because he was in a different alter)

both possibilities have been voiced already, i mean did he snap (as in randomly triggered) and therfor it wasn't a kill by command event planned by his handlers or was it indeed a planned event, maybe even down to the choice of the victim (victim has a few clown connections on his blog, wearing joker clothes, ICP song, i think even a tat but don't quote me on that one.)
now why would the PTB orchestrate such an seemingly random event ?
dunno really, maybe just to spread fear, maybe in connection to push the police state agenda paving the way for some new legaslation or being part of a string of events intented to do so. maybe it was one of their ritual days ?
and don't forget their satanic mindset, reasons that make no sense whatsoever to us could make perfect sense to them.
a lot of possibilities really. it's speculation, my guess is as good as anyone elses but like i said it's more than obvious that he was under MK.

i think we can all agree on that..


PS: hunka, did i already say i like how your mind works ?


The CIA has been making movies about its international human trafficking activities. Why? At a guess, to make money on what they are expert on, by filming it (?) , and possibly get people, especially children and youths, 'comfortable' with the sanitized version of these activities, so that recruitment
into this type of work seems more attractive.(?) Also, my guess is that they sort of enjoy appealing to the baser instincts of people, so that the popularity of such films gains them some sort of tacit 'approval' for what they are doing.
ie: If the general public 'gets off' on watching what they also get off on actually doing, then , they guess, they themselves are not really so bad afterall. (we all secretly like these things, afterall)

Slavery never really ended, it just went underground and offshore:

good stuff, also the newspaper post i think your onto something there.

springmeiers writing on how the Illuminati/intelligence services like to hide behind perfect fronts comes to mind..

[soulja]

I am familiar with how subliminal messages and code words work, as explored on this thread and the one i posted of 'Butterfly monarch comprehensive'.
(I can't remember the authors name to that book..)
HERE:>
(http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31382 )
-


nice1 rixx, must have taken you quiet some time to put it all together.

the author is Fritz Springmeier (aka the Fritzmeister :D) and the info you quoted is from his book ''The Illuminati Formula Used to Create
an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave''

he likes them loooong titles...

[hunkahunka]

Cobain was definitely killed by the Illuminati in my opinion, just look at all the info on this thread, not a coincidence.
Another "litle girl/daddy" connection
Daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more (x6)
Daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more (x4)
Daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more (x8)


very insightful observations, Broken Silence

Guess we know now why Cobain's 'father' (allegedly his father) was such a big 'Queen' fan.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Queen_crest.png/532px-Queen_crest.png

One of their biggest hits was 'Bohemian Rhapsody'
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/mooks7178/freddie_mercury_102.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/87jz8th.jpg
Freddie Mercury in (butterly or owl wings?) makeup with Fleur-de-lis Cross
http://images.teamsugar.com/files/usr/0/3620/freddie_mercurylive.jpg

interesting, considering all the butterfly/angel/wings imagery:
http://martinegrainey.com/images/large/wings.jpg

[emerald]

http://www.leosden.co.uk/graphics/cr_wanted.jpg

http://www.cliffrichard.org/_images/media/photos/2006c_shaving.jpg

And dont forget his "crush" (I think Sir Cliff masterfully hid his bi/homsexuality along the years)/collaborations with MI5 officer daughter, OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN. Its a really small world:D

[emerald]

Walters Tells Of Past Abuse

British actress Julie Walters has spoken for the first time about the abuse she suffered as a child.

The Mamma Mia! star details the abuse she suffered at the age of ten in her forthcoming autobiography - and admits she kept it a secret for 25 years.

The 58-year-old claims she was abducted along with three other young girls, and the group was subjected to a sexual assault from an unknown assailant.

She says, "He tried to get us into a derelict house. He touched me. It was nothing horrific, but it could have been. It was the start of a sexual assault. There were three of us, plus a little one, and you'd think there'd have been safety in numbers. But we were so frightened of him, we would have done anything."

And Walters admits that writing her life story has forced her to re-examine her traumatic past.

She adds, "I only told my mum about it when I was 35. Writing about the incident made me feel sick. As an adult you look back at all the details you didn't understand then. Now, I know what he wanted. It's frightening."

[soulja]

another song that sprung from MK/ritual abuse experiences



Joan Baez - Play Me Backwards

You don't have to play me backwards
To get the meaning of my verse
You don't have to die and go to hell
To feel the devil's curse

Well I thought my life was a photograph
On the family Christmas card
Kids all dressed in buttons and bows
And lined up in the yard
Were the golden days of childhood
So lyrical and warm
Or did the picture start to fade
On the day that I was born

I've seen them light the candles
I've heard them bang the drum
And I've cried Mama, I'm cold as ice!
And I got no place to run

Let the night begin there's a pop of skin
And the sudden rush of scarlet
There's a little boy riding on a goat's head
And a little girl playing the harlot
There's a sacrifice in an empty church
Of sweet li'l baby Rose
And a man in a mask from Mexico
Is peeling off my clothes

I've seen them light the candles
I've heard them bang the drum
And I've cried Mama, I'm cold as ice!
And I got no place to run

So I'm paying for protection
Smoking out the truth
Chasing recollections
Nailing down the proof

You don't have to play me backwards
To get the meaning of my verse
You don't have to die and go to hell
To feel the devil's curse
I'll stand before your altar
And tell everything I know
I've come to claim my childhood
At the chapel of baby Rose

I've seen them light the candles
I've heard them bang the drum
I've seen them light the candles
I've heard them bang the drum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Baez

[soulja]

Walters Tells Of Past Abuse

British actress Julie Walters has spoken for the first time about the abuse she suffered as a child.

The Mamma Mia! star details the abuse she suffered at the age of ten in her forthcoming autobiography - and admits she kept it a secret for 25 years.

The 58-year-old claims she was abducted along with three other young girls, and the group was subjected to a sexual assault from an unknown assailant.

She says, "He tried to get us into a derelict house. He touched me. It was nothing horrific, but it could have been. It was the start of a sexual assault. There were three of us, plus a little one, and you'd think there'd have been safety in numbers. But we were so frightened of him, we would have done anything."

And Walters admits that writing her life story has forced her to re-examine her traumatic past.

She adds, "I only told my mum about it when I was 35. Writing about the incident made me feel sick. As an adult you look back at all the details you didn't understand then. Now, I know what he wanted. It's frightening."

http://wirelessdigest.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/cover_julie_walters.jpghttp://www.lovefilm.com/lovefilm/images/products/4/1684-large.jpg

wiki tells me that just recently she was made a Commander of the Order of the British Empire..

[soulja]

now i'm too lazy to digg up the quotes but remember the MI6 blog talking about the X- factor and Ritualistic reenactment of Lord of the Flies ?


Iron Maiden - The X Factor

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/880/xfactrl7.jpg

1. Sign of the Cross
2. Lord of the Flies
3. Man on the Edge
4. Fortunes of War
5. Look For the Truth
6. The Aftermath
7. Judgement of Heaven
8. Blood on the World`s Hands
9. The Edge of Darkness
10. 2 A.M.
11. The Unbeliever


they have a few interesting album covers, especially this one
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61tNk9h19kL.jpg


then there is this 'talent' show called X-Factor
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_02/xfactorITV_468x312.jpg
btw i think Sharon is Ozzy's handler.. i also suspect Cowell to be a handler of sorts.
with browns last post in mind and seeing as he's a judge on that show, that means what simon says holds weight.

http://www.solarnavigator.net/music/music_images/simon_cowell_on_red_x.jpg

in the show they search for the X-factor just like Intelligence agencies ''recruit'' based on the X-factor. the show is completely staged and used as a means to kickstart careers for their monarch slaves.
i think hardly (if any) genuine (as in non MK) contestants manage their way to the finals. it's all a fix like most other reality tv shows. BB for example..

[soulja]

http://www.littlebrown.co.uk/assets/images/EAN/Large/9781847441720.jpg
survivor ? considering her age i guess one could call her that.

now i'm not sure if the next two pics are postable but mods can remove them anyway in case they aren't.

http://bajiggity.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/1555.jpg
heart pendant

and Butterfly ring
http://bajiggity.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/1554.jpg

http://www.metalshop.sk/images/kniha_ozzy_a_sharon_osbourne_p.JPG
dunno if that's a genuine one or photoshopped but in case it's legit it's interesting. looking through blue glasses, highly fragmented face (mind) in different colours (alters). rainbow..

and what about her other book?
http://www.hachettebookgroupusa.com/_images/ISBNCovers/Covers_Enlarged/9780821280140_388X586.jpg
is this a way to tell us she's bloodline
red (blood) + purple (royal) ?
btw is that a rose on her blouse ?

before you throw any stones, i'm just interpreting - could be nothing.

we already had kelly osbournes ''fairy wings'' in the thread but just for the record,

http://www.tattooblog.org/images/kelly_osbourne3.jpg


Kelly Osbourne is still shocked that her drug and alcohol problems got to the level they did.

Kelly turned to drink and painkillers after becoming an overnight celebrity on The Osbournes and becoming depressed.

Kelly revealed recently: “I’d take so much Valium and Vicodin that I couldn’t actually hear anyone, I liked it because the world would just shut up.”

“Sometimes I wouldn’t even get out of bed if I didn’t have to, or I’d nod off at the table in some fancy restaurant like the Ivy because I was out of it.”

“Thinking about it all now makes me want to throw up - it’s hard to believe I was ever that bad.”


and seeing as the wizard of Oz is a major MK script i'm not too suprised to find a kelly osbourne connection to it.




Cast

* Ashanti as Dorothy Gale: A Kansas teenager dreaming of leaving her home and becoming a singer.
* Kermit the Frog (Steve Whitmire) as Scarecrow: A scarecrow in search of a brain. Scarecrow is constantly mocked by the crows in Oz, as he is defenseless and cannot do anything to stop them.
* The Great Gonzo (Dave Goelz) as The Tin Thing: A robot in search of a heart. After finding the scarecrow, Dorothy and the others travel to a tin shed and find a sleeping robot. After he wakes up, he tells the group that he runs the Total Intelligence Network, or T.I.N. Originally human, the Tin robot was turned into a robot by the Wicked Witch of the West, who was angry at him for asking to leave her palace and marry his fiancée.
* Fozzie Bear (Eric Jacobson) as The Cowardly Lion: A nervous and frightened lion that accompanies Dorothy and the others on their journey. After meeting the Tin robot, The group continues on and meets a scared and cowardly lion, who enjoys stand-up comedy but does not have the courage to perform in public.
* Miss Piggy (Eric Jacobson) as The Wicked Witch of the West: The Wicked Witch that terrifies all that meet her. The Witch desperately wants Dorothy's silver slippers, so she can rule all of Oz. She takes control of a biker gang called "The Flying Monkies" with the use of her magic hat. She has a magical eye that helps her see all of Oz, and is allergic to regular bathing water.
* Miss Piggy as The Good Witch of the North: The Good Witch that gives Dorothy the silver slippers. She is the first witch that Dorothy meets, and tells her all about the Land of Oz.
* Miss Piggy as Glinda, the Good Witch of the South: Glinda is the other Good Witch, who shows Dorothy how to get home. After Dorothy decides she wants to go back home, she is instructed by the Wizard to go back to Munchkinland and meet Glinda the Good Witch of the South.
* Miss Piggy as The Wicked Witch of the East: The original owner of the silver slippers who was killed by Dorothy's falling house (she survived at first, but was killed for real when she failed to lift the house off of her). This witch ruled over the Munchkins for a long time, and was hated by all who knew her.
* Pepe the Prawn (Bill Barretta) as Toto: Dorothy's pet prawn and first companion on her journey. In Kansas, Toto was a prawn that lived in a fish bowl in Dorothy's room.
* Queen Latifah as Aunt Em: Dorothy's aunt and co-owner of the family diner in Kansas. Aunt Em was originally unhappy with Dorothy's life choices, but came to accept them when Dorothy returns from Oz.
* David Alan Grier as Uncle Henry: Dorothy's uncle and co-owner of the family diner. Uncle Henry always admired Dorothy's passion for singing, but was forced to think otherwise due to Aunt Em's stubborn decisions.
* Jeffrey Tambor as The Wizard: The legendary Wizard of Oz. All citizens of the Land of Oz see the Wizard as some huge, marvelous god that lives in Emerald City. Dorothy and her friends see him as this too, until they return from the Wicked Witch of the West's castle and find that he is just a normal man from Hollywood, and not a Wizard.
* Kelly Osbourne as Dorothy Gale: (Extended version): Appears in a short cameo as Dorothy when she first comes out of the Magic Makeover Machine in Emerald City.
* Quentin Tarantino as Himself: (Extended version): In a short cameo with Kermit the Frog, Tarantino discusses ideas on how to stop the Wicked Witch of the West, all of which were too violent for Kermit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muppets'_Wizard_of_Oz

[mrguitarbear]

The Big Country song ' Republican Party Reptile ' is actually based on a book of essays by a journalist called P.J. O'Rourke :

Republican Party Reptile (http://www.amazon.com/Republican-Party-Reptile-Confessions/dp/0871136228)

I don't know how similar the book is to the song , maybe the title of the song caught someone's eye though.

Maybe Adamson thought ' The record company is gonna drop us anyway , lets blow the lid on things.' He did it in a coded way though - again , only those who know would spot the connections.

[soulja]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/barrymore-drew.jpg

Drew barrymore, the woman with the butterfly tat underneath her nabel.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/PLAYBOY_JANUARY_1995_DREW_BARRYMORE.jpg


Drew Blyth Barrymore (born February 22, 1975) is an Emmy Award and Golden Globe-nominated American actress and film producer. She's the youngest member of the Barrymore family of American actors. She began acting when she was eleven months old. Barrymore made her screen debut in Altered States in 1980. Following her 1980 screen debut in Altered States, she starred in her breakout role in E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial. According to springmeier another MK script) She quickly became one of Hollywood's most recognized child actresses, going on to establish herself in mainly comic roles.

At the age of thirteen, Barrymore was checked into rehab for several drug habits she had developed from age nine.[1][2] In 1995, she, along with Nancy Juvonen, formed a production company Flower Films. The following year, she made her comeback in Wes Craven's horror film Scream. This was followed by the 1998 romantic comedy The Wedding Singer, starring opposite Adam Sandler. In 2000, Barrymore starred in the film adaption of Charlie's Angels. Subsequently, she has appeared in comedies such as 50 First Dates, Fever Pitch, Music and Lyrics and starred in the drama film Lucky You opposite Eric Bana. Barrymore is currently working on the projects He's Just That Not That into You, Beverly Hills Chihuahua, and Everybody's Fine. Since then, she has received a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame. In 2007, Barrymore appeared in the cover of People magazine's 100 Most Beautiful issue.

Barrymore was named Ambassador Against Hunger for the United Nations World Food Programme (WFP). Since then, she has donated over $1 million dollars to the program. In 2007, she became both CoverGirl's newest model and spokeswoman for the cosmetic and the face for Gucci's newest jewelry line. She was first married to Jeremy Thomas on March 1994, but the marriage ended two months later. Her second marriage was to comedian Tom Green in July 2001. However, Green filed for divorce in December 2001. Since then, she has dated The Strokes' drummer Fabrizio Moretti (2002–2007) and actor Justin Long.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/drew-barrymore-innocent-time-3-8-07.jpg


Early life

Barrymore was born February 22, 1975 in Culver City, California, the daughter of American actor John Drew Barrymore and Ildiko Jaid Barrymore (née Makó),[1][3] an aspiring actress born in a displaced persons camp in Brannenburg, West Germany to Hungarian World War II refugees. Her parents divorced after she was born.[1] She has a half-brother John Blyth Barrymore,[4] also an actor, and two half-sisters, Blyth Dolores Barrymore and Brahma (Jessica) Blyth Barrymore. Her paternal great-great-grandfather, John Drew, was an Irish-born actor who immigrated to the United States in the 19th century.[5]

Barrymore was born into the acting profession, coming from a long line of acting talent extending back nearly 200 years; her great-great grandparents John Drew, Louisa Lane Drew, her great-grandparents Maurice Barrymore and Georgie Drew Barrymore, Maurice Costello and Mae Costello (née Altschuk), and her grandparents John Barrymore and Dolores Costello were all highly successful actors; John Barrymore was arguably the most acclaimed actor of his generation.[1][5] She is the grand-niece of Lionel Barrymore, Ethel Barrymore (whom Winston Churchill once proposed to), and Helene Costello, and the great grandniece of John Drew, Jr., actress Louisa Drew, and silent film actor/writer/director Sidney Drew.[1][5] She is also the god-daughter of director Steven Spielberg.[2]

Her first name, Drew, was the maiden name of her paternal great-grandmother, Georgie Drew Barrymore; her middle name, Blyth, was the original surname of the dynasty founded by her great-grandfather, Maurice Barrymore.[2]

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Rebellious era

In the wake of this sudden stardom, Barrymore endured a notoriously troubled childhood. She was already a regular at the famed Studio 54 when she was a little girl, smoking cigarettes at age nine, drinking alcohol by the time she was eleven, smoking marijuana at twelve, and snorting cocaine at thirteen.[1][2] She was in rehab at age thirteen and a second time at fourteen.[1][2] Barrymore later described this period of her life in her 1990 autobiography, Little Girl Lost. Her nightlife and constant partying became a popular subject with the media.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Barrymore

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[broken silence]

Good point about Queen, hunkahunka.

Queen was also the favourite band of Axl Rose, real name William Bailey. Axl Rose is an anagram of oral sex. Axl`s father (or stepfather, it`s not that clear) was a Pentecostal preacher and this is what Axl said about his religious upbinging

"...Nothing ever happened to me. I watched my father speak in tongues and people interpret it. I watched him sing in perfect Japanese - and my dad doesn't know Japanese - and sing every note right on key with his eyes closed, driving 100 miles an hour down the free way and not hitting a car. I don't know how that happened. I've seen people with no eyes read. It was very strange, but nothing ever happened (to me).

Sounds like mind control to me.

Axl is a manic depressive and was abused by both his father and step-father.

The original album cover of appetite for destruction featured a robot (slave?) raping a woman. It was banned.

In 1991 Axl employed a personal assistant called BETA who told him not to play concerts in cities beggining with the letter M. This advice was ignored and in St.Louis, Missouri in July 1991 a full scale riot broke out after Axl slapped a member of the crowd who had been waving a camera at him and left the building. Axl later said that this guy had been waving a knife at him aswell during the show and security did nothing about it. This makes more sense beause earlier in the gig, Axl told the crowd how he had almost been raped in St.Louis some years previously by a travelling salesman who gave him a ride after Axl had ran away from home. Axl escaped the motel room they shared after "waking up" to find this guy tying to have sex with him and threatened the salesman with a razor across the throat.

The brand new venue was destroyed by the audience after the band left the stage.

In June 1992, Axl cancelled a gig in Manchester because Warren Beatty had gone off with his model girlfriend (Stephanie Seymour) and went back to the states to win her back. Axl rode down her street on a WHITE HORSE (Prince charming/Disney programming?) as a romantic gesture to try and win her back but she gave him the heave -ho.(well, changed handlers anyway.)

In August 1992 in Montreal during a co-headline tour with Metallica, James Hetfield recieved third degree burns during Metallica`s warm up set when he walked into pyrotechnics as they went off and was rushed to hospital. The accident caused sound problems for Guns n` Roses set and Axl did his diva act and left the stage, the crowd rioted etc.

Bit of a lucky guess by this BETA person that all this would happen in places that began with the letter M is it not?

On the 1993 Spaghetti Incident album, Axl insisted that a song written by :eek: Charles Manson called "look at your game girl" appear as a bonus track at the end of this album. Well why would you do this? You would if songwriting genius:confused: Manson was one of your your handlers. Axl visited Manson in jail several times in the nineties despite never previously knowing him (allegedly, I have my doubts). Axl wore a t-shirt with Charles Mansons face on it during the 1993 use your illusion world tour.

Guns n`Roses performed at the Freddie Mercury Tribute show in 1992. Axl then performed "We will rock you" and "Bohemian Rhapsody" with Queen as the shows finale. Axl also embraced with Elton John, who had performed the start of the song on piano, at the end of the song.

This Beta is now Axl`s manager (handler) and lives with him and her three teenage children in LA.

Here is Axl`s song "My World". About Mind Control or what?

You wan'da step into my world
It's a sociopsychotic state of bliss
You've been delayed in the real world
How many times have you hit and missed?
You cat-scan shows disfiguration
I wanna laugh myself to death
With a misfired synapse
with a bent configuration
I'll hold the line while you gasp for breath
You wanna talk to me
So talk to me
You wanna talk to me (7 times)
You can't talk to me
You don't understand your sex
You ain't been mindfucked yet
Let's do it (3 times)
Oh my distorted smile


Guess what I'm doing now

Lastly, if you put a small mirror vertically halfway across the Use Your Illusion album covers, a whole new picture reveals itself. Skulls, warped faces and a womans open legs suddenly appear.

I tried to post several links and pictures to illustrate my points but this has stopped working all of a sudden, can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?

[soulja]

wow :eek: mind blowing info on Axl..


I tried to post several links and pictures to illustrate my points but this has stopped working all of a sudden, can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?

it would help if you let me know what you've tried to post pics ?

one way to post pics would be using http://photobucket.com/
first you upload your pics on there and then simply copy past the IMG code onto here.

as for links, normally you just copy past them in here. it's strange that it doesn't work for you cos it's pretty straight forward.

[soulja]

remember cirque lodge rehab facility? the one Lohan, Mary Kate and Mendes went to. well let's add Kirsten Dunst to that list.

Kirsten Dunst Depression Rehab: Kirsten Dunst Rehab For Depression

It was a vicious cycle of crippling depression that landed actress Kirsten Dunst in Utah’s Cirque Lodge Rehab Facility, not a widely-rumored addiction to drugs or alcohol, the twenty-six year old Spiderman star said in an interview with E! News on Tuesday.

“I didn’t go to Cirque Lodge for alcohol abuse or drug abuse, I went there for depression. Depression is pretty serious and should not be gossiped about.”

“…..I didn’t know where to go. My doctor recommended Cirque Lodge,” Kirsten told entertainment reporter Marc Malkin.

[cheeb]

The Child Catcher
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/632/childcatcherrm2.jpg
With Butterfly Net..

The Childcatcher is the most loyal servant to the Baron and Baroness Bomburst of Vulgaria. Since the Baroness cannot abide the existence of children, she employs him to kidnap and then kill the country's children. He wears a black suit with a top hat, and has moderately long greasy black hair. In general appearance, he is quite pale, thin, and has a spider-like quality and grace in the way he moves. His most recognizable feature is his elongated nose, with which he is able to smell children and find where they are hiding. When searching for the children, he carries a large net and a hook to catch them. It is quite interesting how this grotesque character who is able to smell the blood of children was created by Roald Dahl, and in Roald Dahl's novel, The Witches, the witches are also able to smell out children to murder them.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1578/chittybangpu0.jpg
The Film Was Adapted By Roald Dahl(Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory) From The Book By Ian Fleming

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1328/flemingby5.jpg
One Eye Image

Ian Lancaster Fleming (May 28, 1908 – August 12, 1964) was a British author, journalist and Second World War Navy Commander. Fleming is best remembered for creating the character of James Bond

Ian Fleming was born in Mayfair, London, to Valentine Fleming, a Member of Parliament, and his wife Evelyn Ste Croix Fleming (Nee Rose- Bloodline). Ian was the younger brother of travel writer Peter Fleming and the older brother of Michael and Richard Fleming (1910–77). He also had an illegitimate half-sister, the cellist Amaryllis Fleming. He was the grandson of Scottish financier Robert Fleming, who founded the Scottish American Investment Trust and merchant bank Robert Fleming & Co. (since 2000 part of JP Morgan Chase). He was cousin to actor Christopher Lee and actress Dame Celia Johnson was his sister-in-law (wife of his brother Peter), and Great-uncle to the composer Alan Fleming-Baird. His nephew Matthew Fleming played cricket for England.

In 1939, on the eve of World War II, Rear Admiral John Godfrey, Director of Naval Intellegence of the Royal Navy, recruited Fleming (then a reserve subaltern in the Black Watch) as his personal assistant

He also conceived of a plan to use British occultist Aleister Crowley to trick Rudolf Hess into attempting to contact a fake cell of anti-Churchill Englishmen in Britain, but this plan was not used because Rudolf Hess had flown to Scotland in an attempt to broker peace behind Hitler's back.

Fleming was a bibliophile who collected a library of books that had, in his opinion, "started something", and therefore were significant in the history of western civilization. He concentrated on science and technology, e.g. On the Origin of Species, but also included other significant works ranging from Mein Kampf to Scouting for Boys.

In March 1960, Fleming met John F. Kennedy through Marion Oates Leiter who was a mutual friend and invited both to dinner. Leiter had introduced Kennedy to Fleming's books during his recovery from an operation in 1955. After dinner Fleming related his ideas on discrediting Fidel Castro; these were reported to Central Intelligence Agency chief Allen Welsh Dulles, who gave the ideas serious consideration

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Ring And Pan Books...
When Bond rescues a beautiful, reckless girl from self-destruction, he finds himself with a lead on one of the most dangerous men in the world - Ernst Stavro Blofeld, the head of SPECTRE. In the snow-bound fastness of his Alpine base, Blofeld is conducting research that could threaten the safety of the world. To thwart the evil genius, Bond must get himself and the vital information he has gathered out of the base and keep away from SPECTRE agents.

Uri Geller
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/5550/andreauriwi1.jpg
Fragmented Image Suggesting Mind Control..

Spectra..
in 1971, Puharich discovered Uri Geller.

At their first meetings in Tel Aviv in 1971, Puharich hypnotised Geller in an attempt to find out where his abilities came from. As a result, the young Israeli started to channel ‘Spectra’ – an entity which claimed to be a conscious super-computer aboard a spaceship. However, Puharich suggested to him that there might be a connection with the Nine Principles, and Spectra readily agreed that there was. The Nine claimed that they had programmed Geller with his powers as a young child.

This Connection Also Leads To The Heavens Gate Cult...

[broken silence]

The Big Country song ' Republican Party Reptile ' is actually based on a book of essays by a journalist called P.J. O'Rourke :

Republican Party Reptile (http://www.amazon.com/Republican-Party-Reptile-Confessions/dp/0871136228)

I don't know how similar the book is to the song , maybe the title of the song caught someone's eye though.

Maybe Adamson thought ' The record company is gonna drop us anyway , lets blow the lid on things.' He did it in a coded way though - again , only those who know would spot the connections.

Interesting find, I didn`t know that. I agree Stuart was using code through his lyrics to expose what he was being subjected to.

On the song Rememberance Day he may have even predicted his own end; "I will be the sacrifice, and bells will ring on rememberance day".

Most of his lyrics are an obvious cry for help if you know what you are looking for.

[broken silence]

wow :eek: mind blowing info on Axl..



it would help if you let me know what you've tried to post pics ?

one way to post pics would be using http://photobucket.com/
first you upload your pics on there and then simply copy past the IMG code onto here.

as for links, normally you just copy past them in here. it's strange that it doesn't work for you cos it's pretty straight forward.

Thanks, will try photobucket now.

I was trying to upload some album covers. As for the links, I think my PC is just playing silly buggers.:rolleyes:

[soulja]

cheeb is back in action..:)

i heard Geller at one point worked for the CIA (or maybe believed he did while in truth they used him, MK asset style.)

he's a friend of Michael ''i'm peter pan'' jackson btw.

http://www.mjj.altervista.org/immagini/gallerie/MJ_VIP/images/MJ%20&%20Uri%20Geller%20(taken%204_6_2002)_jpg.jpg

[soulja]

last year Uri hosted a german tv show called ''the next Uri geller''

one of the candidates
http://images.wikio.com/images/p/559b/eklat-in-der-uri-geller-show.jpg
http://www.meinungs-blog.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/farid2.jpg
http://gellerentlarvt.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/farid-273.jpg

another one went by the name of Raven whos sidekick was a ... black raven.
with whom he talked a lot.
http://gossip-blog.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/next-uri-geller-raven-20080106125405.jpg


his daughter also made an appearance wearing a butterfly ;)

[hunkahunka]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/Queen_News_Of_The_World.png

Tin man in search of a heart.

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/834260.jpghttp://

http://www.metrolyrics.com/images/albums/189193729Scarling_SoLongScarecrow.jpg
Scarling Album - So Long Scarecrow
(interesting imagery, she is getting ready to immolate the 'scarecrow' with a candle, thus 'so long scarecrow')

reminds me of this picture
http://www.ellisparkerbutler.info/epb/ill/v09/red_cross_1920_07_p06.jpg
Yesterday as I was working the strangest, most random, most unprovoked thought popped into my head:

Jesus is a scarecrow.

Have you ever noticed that a hanging scarecrow looks like it's been crucified?

Coincidence? I think not.

I mean think about it...the scarecrow is an invention of the farmer to keep crows from eating any of 'his' corn. The crows, believing the thing has some unseen, punishing power, leave the corn alone.

This of course is much easier for the farmer than patroling his field (or sharing). The crows' imaginations, properly engaged, maintains this lop-sided distribution of corn more than the farmer's shotgun.

You see the farmers are the ruling classes of human history; the crows, the have-nots and Jesus/Allah etc. are all just scarecrows. Deep, huh?

(No! I'm not high!)





From the event's 1986 origins with a handful of people and "a burning scarecrow on the beach" to the pyromaniacal happening which is set to draw more than 30,000 people this coming Labour Day weekend, Doherty deconstructs Burning Man's history with a refreshing clarity.


this course of events from 'Wizard of Oz':
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/images/wizardofzwitchmelt2.JPG
"How about a little fire, scarecrow?" [setting the Scarecrow aflame]
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/images/wizardofzwitchmelt8.JPG
Scarecrow: Oh...oh...oh...it's burning...oh, oh....
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/images/wizardofzwitchmelt9.JPG

http://www.monsterlandtoys.com/video/Night%20of%20The%20Scarecrow.jpg

Now we're getting somewhere:
http://musicaretro.castpost.com/nirvana%20-%20heart%20shaped%20box.mpg.jpg

See where I'm going with this?
http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1039379886421_2002/12/11/12w_kkk.jpg

[mrguitarbear]

Reminds me of this :

http://www.mr-c.me.uk/BlogImgs/the-wicker-man.JPG

Interestingly , also a song by Iron Maiden ( released 2000 ) :

http://static.metal-archives.com/images/1/2/6/2/12629.JPG

2006 remake with Nicholas Cage :

http://www.best-horror-movies.com/image-files/wicker-man-movie-poster.jpg

[soulja]

http://www.audiography.com.au/images/Albums/S_A060628-03_The%20Scarecrow%20of%20Oz.jpg

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/834260.jpg

http://sound-planet.org/covers/15/15695/alb_59023_big.jpg
Scarecrow messiah

tracklist:

- Cannibal Night
- Crowman
- Loneliness
- Meat Eater
- Mental Maze
- Obsession
- Scarecrow Messiah
- Sweet Daisy

[hunkahunka]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/ecassity/cremationn.jpg
Cremation of Care ceremony

http://www.cremationofcare.com/images/bohemian_grove/nat_press_club.PNG

The scarecrow has no brain, so it's the 'brainless' that are sacrificed, for the protection of the harvest/homeland.

[soulja]

lot's of bee symbology in the wickerman aswell.. at least the one with cage in it haven't seen the original.

[soulja]

http://cdbaby.name/s/u/superzero3.jpg

[hunkahunka]

makes me wonder if this 'burning' symbology, this 'burning' of wickerman, scarecrow, 'care' etc. is not just a metaphor for 'cooking' wickerman, scarecrow,care etc.
and eating them. Wickerman is burned when the crops fail.
Wouldn't it make more sense to cook him and eat him if the crops fail?

Kurt Cobain was 'cremated'.

All Apologies

What else should I be
All apologies
What else could I say
Everyone is gay
What else could I write
I don't have the right
What else should I be
All apologies

In the sun
In the sun I feel as one
In the sun
In the sun
I'm married
Buried

I wish I was like you
Easily amused
Find my nest of salt
Everything is my fault
I'll take all the blame
Aqua seafoam shame
Sunburn with freezerburn
Choking on the ashes of her enemy

In the sun
In the sun I feel as one
In the sun
In the sun
Married, Buried!
Married! Buried!
Yeah yeah yeah yeah

All in all is all we are

[cheeb]

http://www.audiography.com.au/images/Albums/S_A060628-03_The%20Scarecrow%20of%20Oz.jpg

That Is What I Have Been Looking For In Relation To The Robot In The Alien Abduction Scenario:

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/5908/tiktokvp5.jpg
TiK ToK

The Oz Factor
Entering The Magical Realm
By Michael Jordan

The wondrous experiences of Dorothy in the film The Wizard of Oz and Alice in her Wonderland, happened as a result of these two adventurous young ladies being whisked away into a magical realm from whence they eventually returned, unfortunately without a shred of evidence to support their experiences. Prolific writer and researcher in the field of UFOs and related areas, Jenny Randles coined the term the 'Oz Factor', to describe the sensations experienced by those who entered this state.
In her 1988 book Abduction, Randles describes the mysterious Oz Factor as, "an induced form of sensory deprivation which seems to alter the state of consciousness of the percipient. It can become visible as a sensation of time standing still, or interfered with, or it manifests as all sound vanishing, a very odd feeling of being isolated from our world into a magic world. It is less easy to describe than recognise, since witnesses often refer to it without having any idea of its significance. This underlines its importance." (Randles, p.57)
Ufologists have long been familiar with the reporting of such sensations as a prelude to UFO related experiences including witnesses to so-called abductions. Participants tell of feelings of disassociation and timelessness. The impression created for the individual concerned is one of having temporarily vacated the material world with its distracting sensory input and entered a timeless, silent, dreamlike, mental state, unlike any other previously experienced. Obviously a type of altered state of consciousness.

The records kept by UFO researchers are replete with cases involving aspects such as the paralysis of the witness, periods of missing time, the silence of the craft observed, its rapid or instantaneous disappearance and often the seeming absurdity of a lack of other witnesses, despite the vast size of the craft and the fact that it is seen in broad daylight. These underlying patterns remain pretty standard and common to the Oz Factor, irrespective of language or location.
An early example of its operation is recounted by Jenny Randles:

Whitney Streibers Abduction With Tik Tok,
As The Trigger...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HlQqcdG_VQc

Shit I Gotta Dash Out ......

:(

[hunkahunka]

Reminds me of this :
2006 remake with Nicholas Cage :
http://www.best-horror-movies.com/image-files/wicker-man-movie-poster.jpg


I knew I'd seen her somewhere before:

http://nirvana.webz.cz/jpg/hsb01.jpg

[hunkahunka]

mirror images off water:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/0783233493.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/ecassity/cremationn.jpg

[soulja]

http://www.timelineuniverse.net/Oz/tiktok.jpg

http://amyhouser.com/images/Childrens-Illustration/large/TikTok.jpg

the distorted mirror image reminds me at this part of springmeiers work

Hypnosis changes the threshold of the how the senses perceive. Sensitivity can be increased or decreased, hallucinations can be perceived even though there is the absence of any appropriate stimuli, and things that exist can go unperceived by the mind. For instance, alters who are used for porn are hypnotized not to see the camera. Alters used for any type of sexual service are hypnotized repeatedly to not see faces. The slave will actually see blurs where people’s faces are. The Programmers like to manipulate. Children are set in front of circus mirrors that make them taller or smaller for programming. They are set in front of mirrors which duplicate their image. Here in Oregon, there is a site with a magnetic anomaly which bends light. It is called the Oregon Vortex. The Programmers take small children there for programming. Anything that creates an illusion, seems to be noticed by the Programmers and is put to use somehow.

The CIA has employed magicians like John Mulholland to help them create illusions. Magician John Mulholland wrote a manual for the CIA on how to deceive unwitting subjects. Under drugs and hypnosis, when a small child is set in front of a mirror that elongates its body and or then shortens, the reality of the programming script seems real. The programmer can hypnotically call upon the child’s mind to totally hallucinate seeing something, or he can support the illusion by handing the child a doll and telling it that it is a child, or handing the child a pencil and telling the child it is a flower. A great deal of acting and props are used during the programming. What child can tell fool’s gold from real gold? The bottom line is that generally, no matter which way the Programmers do it, whether by an illusion or an outright hypnotic-suggested hallucination, the event for the child is real. The majority of traumas are real events, but the scripts that are given are after the trauma are fictional.

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http://www.igalaxi.com.au/folio/tiktok.jpg


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kids from Tik Tok nursery in Gateshead enjoy the fun.

Angel tots celebrate birthday

Date: 31/03/2008

A group of lucky toddlers have been celebrating the Angel of the North's 10th anniversary, even though none of them were actually born when the famous sculpture first arrived.
Around 70 toddlers enjoyed a special party with angel balloon sculptures, drawings, face painting and games as part of the year long celebrations for the Angel of the North.

The children from Tik Tok nursery were celebrating the decade old sculpture through drawings and designs as part of the campaign to get the whole community involved.

The iconic Tyneside sculpture by award-winning artist Antony Gormley arrived in Gateshead on 14 February 1998 and a programme of celebrations are now well underway.

So far the celebrations have included:

· 10 couples renewing their wedding vows at the foot of the angel.
· A special party for children born on the day the Angel arrived in Gateshead .
· A spring competition with some fabulous prizes.

Gateshead Council has also released a series of moving messages sent in by the public to commemorate their own fallen 'angels'.

All messages sent into the council were released at the Angel site as a tribute to family or friends who are no longer with us.

There are a host of other anniversary events still to come, including:

· An angel summer party in June.
· Community activities for the reminder of the year.
· A spot the angel competition.
· Other exciting community events.

David Bunce, Director of Culture and Communities at Gateshead Council said:

"This is another reminder of how important and influential the Angel of the North has been on Gateshead and the North East of England. The whole community is getting involved in the celebrations and there is still plenty more to come.

"The events so far have been a great success and we want to continue to make 2008 the year of the Angel."
http://www.gateshead.gov.uk/Council%20and%20Democracy/news/News%20Articles/Angel%20tots%20celebrate%20birthday%20.aspx

nothing to worry about it's just from the gateshead council site :rolleyes:

[soulja]

makes me wonder if this 'burning' symbology, this 'burning' of wickerman, scarecrow, 'care' etc. is not just a metaphor for 'cooking' wickerman, scarecrow,care etc.
and eating them. Wickerman is burned when the crops fail.
Wouldn't it make more sense to cook him and eat him if the crops fail?

Kurt Cobain was 'cremated'.

so was Tupac

http://www.thuglife.ic.cz/obaly/The%207%20Day%20Theory%20(pred).jpg

miss the crow ?

look no further than the video to - smile -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Vk0EL-r8g&feature=related

[soulja]

triggering much ?
http://www.waltdisneysreturntooz.com/rubyslippers.gif
Use the Ruby Slippers to get home

found on:
http://www.waltdisneysreturntooz.com/Fan_Draw.htm
http://www.waltdisneysreturntooz.com/

[krakhead]

triggering much ?
http://www.waltdisneysreturntooz.com/rubyslippers.gif
Use the Ruby Slippers to get home

found on:
http://www.waltdisneysreturntooz.com/Fan_Draw.htm
http://www.waltdisneysreturntooz.com/

Oh fucking thanks for that! I just beheaded my dog! :mad:

[soulja]

get a new one then, after a while you will love him just as much.

and don't open the thread again until the next page.

but now that i think of it, if that's the way to keep you out i might post it on every page from now on :p

on the other hand, the thread would lack your insightful and very contributing posts. so maybe not such a good idea after all..

[krakhead]

get a new one then, after a while you will love him just as much.

I'm keeping the old one, I've re-named him "Draggy"

and don't open the thread again until the next page.

I don't understand!

but now that i think of it, if that's the way to keep you out i might post it on every page from now on :p

OK, I know when I'm not wanted.......

on the other hand, the thread would lack your insightful and very contributing posts. so maybe not such a good idea after all..

Yay! I'll stick around then! You know you love me really, you know you think about me in those special fuzzy-tingle times ;)

And having me here saves you from having to pull your own head out of your arse all the time - it surely must be tiring for you! :p

I like you Soul-dier, you kill to order :D

[soulja]

jeez krakhead - don't be so touchy.

and boring..

[krakhead]

jeez krakhead - don't be so touchy.

and boring..

Wasn't being touchy, was being witty and interesting, was being just like you! OH. I see what you mean :p

[soulja]

haha ha ................. :rolleyes:

after that very enlightening conversation with fellow contributor trollhead back to business.

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KEEPING THE MIND DISSOCIATIVE

Illuininati parents (as well as other adults who care for a Monarch child) are given special instructions on how to raise the child to be dissociative. The parents are admonished that their child will have a successful future and so will they if they follow the instructions. if they don’t follow the instructions, they are minded their child’s life could be forfeited. Here are some of the types of instructions that are given:

a. Spend 15 minutes/day teaching the child to write backwards to develop the brain in a particular fashion.

b. Giving daily doses of prolonged isolation, such as dark closets, dark cellars, the corners of dark rooms. During the prolonged isolation, the child cannot turn on the lights, go to the bathroom, make a noise or anything else. The child will learn to dissociate. The child is also trauma bonded to the abuser because each time the child is let out, it is grateful to the abuser. The child can be drowned in a pool and then resuscitated--and the exact amount of time to keep the child under will be given. The child can be placed in a freezer, and again the exact amount of time can be given to the parent. The child is not to roam about the house freely. The adults’ area is off-limits. The child must move with permission.

c. Systematic punishment without provocation with the message--"keep secrets". Hear no evil, see no evil, do no evil. This needs to be done several times a week to reinforce the codes of silence and the programming for silence.

d. A needle which is gripped halfway up is stuck into the child a quarter inch deep on the child’s muscles, buttocks or thigh to help continue dissociative behavior. On special occasions (birthdays, holidays) the hands and feet, which are most sensitive to pain, are stuck. When the feet or hands are stuck, they will often stick the needles under the nails. The ears are also on occasion stuck with needles. It also conditions the child to obey the commands of her handlers, who will use needles to access the minds various personalities. Various spots on the body when stuck with needles along with certain codes become access points for certain alters.

e. Anytime a child argues, has a temper tantrum, or gets angry the child is to be slapped in the face. This is a quick trauma. It is to be followed with a lighted cigarette applied to the child to burn the skin the second the child gets submissive from the slap. If a cigarette can’t be found, a stove top or some other hot item is to be found. At four years of age, the child begins programming to burn itself. If there are any bruises showing, the child can be kept home for a day or two.

f. Anytime the child becomes willful it is to have its mouth washed out with soap. The child should be made to chew off a piece and swallow the foam.

g. The child should be raped daily and then tortured. This helps with the sexual programming later, and begins a reversal in the mind that pain is love, and pain is pleasure.

Some of the first memories that female Monarchs recover are their memories of their fathers raping them. This is because the programmers allow these memories to be less dissociated than the later ones where the slave may be sexually servicing an important Monarch slave handler like the Rev. Billy Graham. (Graham is covered in full in chapter 5.) In later situations like that, the kitten alters which do the sexual servicing will be electro-shocked to block their memory as well as given hypnotic cues. The fathers or step-fathers are often not the person who will be their master when they grow up. The abuse of this person will serve as a cover for the programming. If the person’s front alters discover they are MPD, the will initially blame their multiplicity on the first abuser they remember, which then serves as a cover.

http://www.thefunkstore.com/Cut-OutCDs/VMC-JaRule-Pain-Cover.jpg

[soulja]

we had the Tik Tok nursery chosen for an event by the gateshead council and now:


Child Catcher helps stop truants

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44006000/jpg/_44006039_childcatcher300.jpg


School truants are being warned not to skip lessons by the Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

The Child Catcher, played by Alvin Stardust at the Mayflower in Southampton, is teaming up with the council to promote school attendance.

Unauthorised absences by pupils can lead to warning letters and fines of up to £100 for parents and carers.

Unpaid fines can result in court

appearances and even prison.

Southampton City Council have enlisted Stardust's help, after figures showed an average of 2,054 pupils were absent from schools in Southampton every day.

Stardust will be lending his name to the campaign to promote positive school attendance after the summer holidays.

The council insists that their methods were not as drastic as the Child Catcher's, but they are hoping that they can have a positive affect on students "bunking from their lessons".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/6904626.stm


can't miss their daily dose of brainwashing at school now can they ?
so let's scare them into submission..



"No Child Must Slip Through The Net."
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I see candy / sex as a waste of time? Lots of BB surveillence, huge white overhanging light, remote control, red eyes (lights)attitude, technological know how. Skelleton and skull tee-shirt, blak and red.
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wiki-more from here... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Teavee)

Mike Teavee is, as his last name implies, a television fanatic, who is seldom away from his television set. Mike is the last of the bad children to find a Golden Ticket, and is also the last of the children to be expelled from the tour.

In the novel, nine-year-old Mike is particularly obsessed with violent gangster films. He wore "no less than eighteen toy pistols of various sizes hanging from belts around his body," and he liked to act out gangster shootings wherein the characters were "pumping each other full of lead".

Mike in the 1971 film
Mike was played by Paris Themmen in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, in which his last name was spelled as "Teevee" in the credits. The film portrayed Mike in a more greedy manner than the book. Mike, no older than eleven and hailing from Marble Falls, Arizona, was dressed in a cowboy outfit complete with a hat, a fringed jacket, and a cap gun, in imitation of the stars of his favorite western TV show. He openly wished he could have a real gun, to which his father replied, "Not 'till you're 12, son". When the children were asked to sign a contract prior to the tour that forbade them from divulging Wonka's secrets, Mike remarked, "I saw this in a movie once. A guy signed his wife's insurance policy, then he bumped her off". He then signed his name as "Mike T.V." on the contract.

Unlike the 2005 adaptation, Mike does not have an aversion to chocolate, as he calls a miniaturized chocolate bar a "TV dinner" in the Wonkavision Room and is seen eating candy in the Chocolate Room. He is very impudent and self-assertive toward most adults, but is generally kind and sociable around the other kids. He talks about his favorite shows and movies, and dreams of becoming a TV star.

In the 2005 movie adaptation, Mike (played by Jordan Fry) has a more contemporary wardrobe in lieu of cowboy attire, and resides in Denver, Colorado. His behavior has been greatly influenced by television and video games. As a result of being constantly bombarded with violent imagery, particularly from first-person shooter games, he is quick to anger.

Mike proves to be both scientifically and economically literate: he finds his Golden Ticket simply by analyzing both the Nikkei Index and the datecodes of the other ticket finds, and then calculating the location of the next ticket, thus requiring him to purchase only a single Wonka Bar. This version of Mike does not like chocolate, and simply used the ticket hunt as an opportunity to test his wits, rather than out of true desire to visit the factory. His haggard father (Adam Godley), who later serves as Mike's tour chaperone, laments during the press conference about his inability to understand his son's thought processes, while bemoaning children's obsession with technology in general. When the five children first enter the facility, Mike is the only one whom Wonka addresses by name, adding, "You're the little devil who cracked the system". Mike considers everyone else beneath him and is especially condescending toward Wonka, while finding everything in the factory to be "completely pointless".

Whenever Mike tries to argue with Wonka about the impossibility of his inventions, Wonka tells him to "stop mumbling" despite Mike's speech being rather clear. This became a running gag in the movie that held a less prominent place in the novel and the 1971 film. Their inability to communicate may be due to the difference in their priorities: because Mike's speech is often full of logic and technical information, and Wonka's solely devoted to the imagination, Wonka "can't understand a word" Mike is saying.

Mike's Endgame
In the novel and both films, Mike is shrunk impulsively disobeying Wonka's request to stay away from the Television Chocolate camera. In an attempt to distribute free samples of Wonka's candy, Television Chocolate was intended to send larger-than-life-sized Wonka Bars through television sets around the world. After the bar is teleported by the camera, it is shrunk down to normal size, and can be extracted from the television set and consumed, which amazed the remaining children in the tour (Charlie and Mike). The Television Chocolate camera transmits Mike to a television set across the room, shrinking him to a size that enabled him to fit within the diameter of the screen. Wonka orders him to be stretched to his normal size in the chewing gum-stretching machines (taffy pullers in both films); but the Oompa Loompas overdo the process and accidentally transform him into a giant. Wonka, seeing this, suggests that every basketball team in the country would now be looking for him. In the 2005 film, Mike is left with a very high, squeaky voice after being shrunk, and his overstretched figure was seen leaving the factory after the tour, whereas in the 1971 version, nothing was stated other than Wonka's reassurance to Charlie that Mike would be fine.

In the book and the first film, Mike sends himself through the Television Chocolate machine simply due to his television fanaticism. In the novel, when his parents lament the loss of his ability to attend school or engage in society, he asserts his retained ability to watch television, whereupon his father blames the television set for Mike's mishap and threatens to destroy it, much to Mike's annoyance. In the 2005 movie, Mike sends himself through the machine to demonstrate its potential use as a teleporter, after becoming frustrated that Wonka never considered using the machine in any other context beyond distribution of his goods. Because the machine shrinks its cargo, Wonka's limitation is proven wise.

Nikkei225 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikkei_225)
Nikkei225 (日経平均株価, Nikkei heikin kabuka?, 日経225) is a stock market index for the Tokyo Stock Exchange (TSE). The Nikkei average is the most watched index of Asian stocks. It has been calculated daily by the Nihon Keizai Shimbun (Nikkei) newspaper since 1971. It is a price-weighted average (the unit is Yen), and the components are reviewed once a year.

The Nikkei 225 began to be calculated on September 7, 1950, retroactively calculated back to May 16, 1949.

Mike Teavee Song
This song took place in the factory's Television Room, and was sung by the Oompa Loompas after Mike was shrunk while trying to use the camera to teleport himself into the in-room television screen. In the book, the Oompa Loompas sing that TV is unhealthy and detrimental for children's minds, and that children should read books instead of watching TV. The song in the original film conveys the same message, but only gives books as a suggestion. In the 2005 film, the song suggests that television is bad for young minds, and it makes children dull and blind, as mentioned in the novel.

The 2005 version of the song is performed as Mike finds himself jumping from, and interacting with, one television program after another while an Oompa Loompa changes channels: he flips through a heavy-metal music video, a Psycho-style shower scene, two other Oompa Loompas playing Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots, a WNN (Wonka News Network) news broadcast, a cooking show, and a psychedelic parody of a Beatles concert. All of the performers on all the channels were Oompa Loompas

Oompa Loompa Song (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Pavillion/6441/lyrics.html)
Mike Teevee
Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do
I have another puzzle for you
Oompa Loompa doom-pa-da-dee
If you are wise you'll listen to me
What do you get from a glut of TV?
A pain in the neck and an IQ of three
Why don't you try simply reading a book?
Or can you just not bear to look?

You'll get no... you'll get no... you'll get no commercials

Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-da
If you're not greedy, you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do

Danny Elfman - Mike Teavee Lyrics (http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/charlie&thechocolatefactory/miketeavee.htm)

The most important thing we've learned,
The most important thing we've learned,
So far as children are concerned,
Is never, NEVER, NEVER let
Them near your television set
Or better still, just don't install
The idiotic thing at all.

Never Ever Let Them
Never Ever Let Them
Ooh Ooh
Never Ever Let Them

It rots the senses in the mind!
It kills Imagination dead!
It clogs and clutters up the mind!
It makes a child so dull and blind!
So Dull So Dull !
He can no Longer understand
A fairytale and a fairyland!
A Fairyland a Fairyland!
His brain becomes as soft as cheese!
His powers of thinking rust and freeze!
He cannot think he only sees!

He only Sees
He only Sees

Regarding little Mike Teavee,
We very much regret that we
Shall simply have to wait and see
If we can get him back his height.
But if we can't it serves him right."

Oompa-Loompa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oompa-Loompa)
In fiction, the Oompa-Loompas were first featured in Roald Dahl's 1964 children's book, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. The original book first portrayed Oompa-Loompas as black pygmies from "the very deepest and darkest part of the African jungle where no white man had been before". The Oompa-Loompas natural enemy is the whangdoodle, an ambiguous but terrible monster. After the book's U.S. release, complaints of racism caused Dahl to rewrite the characters as dwarves with "golden-brown hair" and "rosy-white" skin. In the 1971 musical film adaptation, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, the characters were again reinterpreted as orange-skinned and green-haired, very similarly to the Munchkins of 1939's The Wizard of Oz. In the 2005 adaptation, restored to its original title of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, the Oompa-Loompas are small, with short dark hair and bronzed skin, and are all played by the dwarf actor Deep Roy, except in some scenes. Roy's stature was diminished on screen to an apparent height of 75 centimetres (30 inches), using digital compositing and forced perspective. They communicate only through song, mimic, and gestures. As seen in the film, they also have a singular gesture of accord, in which they cross their arms and closed hands up to their chest in a way that resembles the greeting gesture of the aliens in Plan 9 from Outer Space. The only Oompa-Loompa of this list with a name is the high voiced Skeebo, the apparent leader of the Oompa-Loompas.
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brown.

[brown velvet]

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I see....
two dribbling pigs...
strung up pork sausages
brown swirling tunnel
''is what he eats''
makes me think of... this lad...

Pugsly, Adams family

http://www.addamsfamily.com/addams/scout_2.jpg
http://www.addamsfamily.com/addams/pugsley1.jpg
http://www.addamsfamily.com/addams/scout_3.jpg
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and this one, Pigsy, from the fab Monkey
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Pigsy.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Pigsylefteye.jpg

more from wiki (www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_Gloop)
Augustus's Endgame
In the novel, after he falls into and is sucked out of the chocolate river, Augustus's body shape is altered dramatically: he becomes extremely thin from being squeezed through the pipe. His fate in the 1971 film was not visualized, with only Wonka's insistence that all four bad children would remain intact. In the 2005 adaptation, he is physically unharmed (save for a slight change in body shape) but coated in drying chocolate, which he eats off himself as he leaves the factory, much to his mother's consternation. It may well be possible that he was MADE of chocolate upon departing the factory, as he could have been altered by the mixing barrel, but this remains unconfirmed.


Augustus Gloop Song
The Augustus Gloop Song is the first song performed by the Oompa Loompas in the book and both film versions; it is sung in the Chocolate Room after Augustus is sent up the pipe. The original version talks about Augustus's repulsiveness and his upcoming experience in the fudge machine. The 1971 version centered around what happens if one overeats. The 2005 rendition restored some of Dahl's original lyrics; it reassures the tour group that Augustus will be unharmed, but he will be altered, while centering more on Augustus's personality; it calls him "a great big greedy nincompoop," asserts that he is "so greedy, foul, and infantile," and also reveals the impending doom of the machinery that will punish Augustus for his flaws.

lyrics from here (http://www.lyricallysquared.com/viewsong/Willy-Wonka-and-the-Chocolate-Factory/Oompa-Loompa-Song:-Augustus-Gloop/165399)

Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do
I have a perfect puzzle for you
Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me
What do you get when you guzzle down sweets?
Eating as much as an elephant eats
What are you at getting terribly fat?
What do you think will come of that?

I don't like the look of it

Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-da
If you're not greedy, you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do

Danny Elfman - (worked on Nightmare before christmas etc...) Augustus Gloop Lyrics (http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/charlie&thechocolatefactory/augustusgloop.htm)
Augustus Gloop! Augustus Gloop!
The great big greedy nincompoop!
Augustus Gloop!
So big and vile
So greedy, foul, and infantile
'Come on!' we cried, 'The time is ripe
To send him shooting up the pipe!
But don't, dear children, be alarmed;
Augustus Gloop will not be harmed,
Augustus Gloop will not be harmed
Although, of course, we must admit
He will be altered quite a bit.
Slowly, the wheels go round and round,
The cogs begin to grind and pound;
We boil him for a minute more,
Until we're absolutely sure
Then out he comes! And now! By grace!
A miracle has taken place!
A miracle has taken place!
This greedy brute, this louse's ear,
Is loved by people everywhere!
For who could hate or bear a grudge
Against a luscious bit of fudge?"

Danny Elfman who wrote and performed the music for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, used only a fraction of Roald Dahl's orginal, extremely nasty lyrics from the book.

Here's an example of parts Elfman didn't use (from the song for Augustus Gloop) (http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/19/roald-dahls-oompah-l.html)

However long this pig might live,
We're positive he'd never give
Even the smallest bit of fun
Or happiness to anyone.
[snip]
So what we do in cases such
As this, we use the gentle touch,
And carefully we take the brat
And turn him into something that
Will give great pleasure to us all --
A doll, for instance, or a ball,
Or marbles or a rocking horse.

To date Elfman has scored the following Burton films: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Elfman)

Pee-wee's Big Adventure (1985) – his first orchestral score.
Beetlejuice (1988)
Batman (1989) – his first large-scale action score.
Edward Scissorhands (1990) – his personal favorite of his own scores.[citation needed]
Batman Returns (1992)
The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993) - in which he also performed the singing voice of the lead character (Jack Skellington) and two supporting roles (Barrel, one of Oogie Boogie's three henchmen, and The Clown with the Tearaway Face).
Mars Attacks! (1996)
Sleepy Hollow (1999)
Planet of the Apes (2001)
Big Fish (2003)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) - in which he also provided the voices for the Oompa-Loompas in the musical numbers.
Corpse Bride (2005) - in which he also performed the role of Bonejangles.


brown.

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Violet
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Violetposter.jpgI see bubbles, pink candy, pink soft centre, teeth around the edge staring / focussed, champagne cork? Don't know what the other corner is, a tart? Biscuit?

wiki-more.... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Beauregarde)
Violet Beauregarde Song
This song takes place in the Inventing Room, where the multicourse gum was created. It is sung by the Oompa Loompas while Violet is lolling around in blueberry form, and the lyrics contain 42 repetitions of the word "chewing." The track uses the same pitch in voice, accompanied by a '70s funk-style sound. The original song in the novel featured a "Miss Bigelow" who chewed gum day in and day out for years before her jaws bit her tongue in two, and how the Oompa Loompas wanted to prevent the same thing happening to Violet. In the 1971 version, the song merely talks about how chewing gum for long periods of time is repulsive.

Danny Elfman - Violet Beuregarde Lyrics (http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/charlie&thechocolatefactory/violetbeuregarde.htm)
Listen close, and listen hard, the tale of Violet Beauregarde.
The dreadful girl she sees no wrong...

Chewing, chewing, chewing, chewing, chewing, chewing all day long.

Chewing, chewing all day long.
Chewing, chewing all day long.
Chewing, chewing all day long.

She goes on chewing till at last, her chewing muscles grow so fast.
And from her face her giant chin, sticks out just like a violin...

-Chourus-

For years and years she chews away, her jaws get stronger every day.
And with one great tremendous chew...they bite the poor girl's toungue in two.
And that is why we try so hard, to save Miss Violet Beauregarde.

-Chorus-

Original

here (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Pavillion/6441/lyrics.html)
Oompa Loompa Song
Violet Beauregarde
Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do
I have another puzzle for you
Oompa Loompa doom-pa-da-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me
Gum chewing's fine when it's once in a while
It stops you from smoking and brightens your smile
But it's repulsive, revolting, and wrong
Chewing and chewing all day long

The way that a cow does

Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-da
Given good manners, you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/parenting/2006/11/01/VioletBlueberry01265x279.jpg

http://www.jwz.org/images/violet7.jpg

http://blog.devinecolor.com/images/228.jpg

http://blogstruk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/VioletBeauregarde.jpghttp://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Out003a.jpgIn the year 2009, a genetically enhanced, 9-year-old female (to whom creator James Cameron refers as "transgenic") super-soldier who calls herself Max Guevara, (also known as X5-452, a truncation of her barcode tattoo on the back of her neck 332960073452), escapes along with eleven others like her from a secret government institution. At the institution, codenamed Manticore, they were created and subsequently raised and trained to be soldiers and assassins. On June 1, 2009, months after Max's escape, terrorists detonate an electromagnetic pulse weapon in the atmosphere over the U.S., which destroys the vast majority of computer and communication systems, throwing the country into utter chaos.
wiki-more.... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Angel_%28TV_series%29)

wiki-more.... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Beauregarde)
Violet's fate is not visualized in the first film, in which Wonka simply assures Charlie that all the other children will be their normal selves. In the 2005 version, she is seen exiting the factory with her mother after the tour. She has been deflated back to normal size, but rather than walking, she is somersaulting and backflipping down the stairs and the front walk, and her skin and clothes are both a permanent shade of blue. Violet is actually pleased with her new form and pliability, proudly announcing, "I'm much more flexible now." Her mother replies disapprovingly, "Yes, but you're blue." In the novel, Violet retains purple skin but there is no mention of increased dexterity.


- Candy Man Lyrics (http://stlyrics.com/lyrics/willywonkaandthechocolatefactory/candyman.htm)

Bill: Who can take a sunrise
Sprinkle it in dew
Cover it in chocolate
and a miracle or two?

The candyman
The candyman can
The candyman can cause he mixes it with love and makes the world taste good

Who can take a rainbow
Wrap it is a sigh
Soak it in the sun
and make a strawberry lemon pie?

Artist's Comments
Violet a blind girl and keeper of half a jewel given to her by her mother, she has an older sister and is the love interest of Lucifer.
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Children: The candyman?

Bill: The candyman
The candyman can
The candyman can cause he mixes it with love and makes the world taste good

Willy Wonka makes
Everything he bakes
Satisfying and delicious
Talk about your childhood wishes
You can even eat the dishes

Who can take tomorrow
Dip it in a deam
Seperate the sorrow
And collect up all the cream?

The candyman

Children:Willy Wonka can

Bill: The candyman can cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good
And the world tastes good cause the candyman thinks it should


"Violet" is a song by the rock band Hole, fronted by Courtney Love. It was the third single to be released from their second album, Live Through This, following Doll Parts which was released in 1994. This song was released after an extensive touring period by the band, throughout 1994 and 1995.

"Violet" is a song reputedly about Billy Corgan with whom Courtney had a relationship in the early nineties. Courtney introduced the song on the Jools Holland show in 1995 as "This song's about a jerk, I hexed him and now he's losing his hair," which might refer to Corgan's hair loss. Lyrics such as 'When they get, what they want, then they never want it again', and 'Go on, take everything, take everything, I want you to', portray the end of a bitter relationship. In any event, Corgan and Love subsequently came to enjoy cordial relations.
wiki-more (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_%28song%29)

Violet by Hole
And the sky was made of amethyst
And all the stars look just like little fish
You should learn when to go
You should learn how to say no

Might last a day yeah
Mine is forever
Might last a day, yeah
Well mine is forever

When they get what they want they never want it again
When they get what they want they never want it again

Go on, take everything, take everything I want you to
Go on, take everything take everything take everything I want you to

And the sky was all violet I want it again, but more violet, more violet
Hey, Im the one with no soul
One above and one below

Go on, take everything take everything I want you to
Go on, take everything take everything I want you to

I told you from the start just how this would end
When I get what I want I never want it again

Go on, take everything take everyting I want you to
Go on, take everything, take everything I want you to
Go on, take everything, take everything I want you to
Go on, take everything, take everything I want you to
Go on take everything take everything take everything take everything
from here (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/h/hole/violet_20065499.html)

wiki-here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Gray)

Violet Gray is a character in the comic strip Peanuts by Charles M. Schulz.

Violet's verbal assaults of Charlie Brown (usually in tandem with Patty) could be quite cruel - sometimes exceeding even the severity of Lucy's insults. A classic example of this was where Violet is lashing out at Charlie Brown, yet again, and then finishes him off with "And I don't care if I ever see you again, do you hear me?!" Apparently, this tongue lashing was quite vicious, as Linus walks in and notices that Charlie Brown was really hurt. Charlie Brown said that Violet hadn't taken all the life out of him, "but you can number me among the walking wounded."

Another contrast to Lucy was physical violence; Violet's physical attacks, especially on Charlie Brown, were much fewer and further between. In one Sunday strip, an angry Violet was chasing Charlie Brown threatening to "knock (his) block off". Before she could throw the punch, Charlie Brown stopped her and tried to reason with her that there were better ways to solve problems than with violence. Violet ended up punching him anyway in the middle of his speech, and in the final panel admits to Patty, "I had to hit him quick. He was beginning to make sense!"

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/violetgraycharliebrown.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/violetgraycharliebrowna.jpg

Violet Elizabeth, anyone? (scream and scream, till I make myself s*ck?)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Bonnielangford86a.jpg/250px-Bonnielangford86a.jpg

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/3139394.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=BEDFE2929D4DA7652A345B15F5B8A115A55A1E4F32AD3138

Bonnie Langford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Langford)
Langford attended The Arts Educational School and the Italia Conti Academy stage school. Her first stage appearance was at four months and her first public appearance was at 15 months when she danced in specially made ballet shoes. She first came to public attention when, aged 6, she won the talent show Opportunity Knocks. This led to early fame in the television series Just William, the 1976 film Bugsy Malone and the 1977 film Wombling Free. At this time, she was associated with fellow child star Lena Zavaroni.

Between 1986 and 1987 Langford played the role of Mel, companion to both the Sixth and Seventh Doctors in the classic science fiction series Doctor Who. She returned to the role in 1993 for Dimensions in Time, a special charity Doctor Who/EastEnders crossover episode as part of the BBC's Children in Need. She continues to reprise the role in audio dramas produced by Big Finish Productions (eleven to date, including the episodes The One Doctor and The Fires of Vulcan).


brown.

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Shadows... http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/04%2008%2008/veruca.jpg
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPO/503570~Charlie-And-The-Chocolate-Factory-Posters.jpg I see, cool, cold, feline. Good at being (a) bad nut, green lollipop swirl / trance / rubbish, clusters of brown swirls, squirrel, and Nut Sorting Room paraphernalia, swirling rubbish chute.....

wiki-more Veruca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veruca_salt)

Veruca is the only, and very spoiled, daughter of a wealthy nut magnate who regularly capitulates to his daughter's copious demands.

described in the novel as having long blonde hair with a bow perched on top. She is dressed in a frilly pink and purple tutu-like dress with pink gloves and red shoes, and wears a mink coat.

When the ticket is finally found, Veruca is "all smiles again." Her father later confesses to Wonka that he knows his daughter is "a bit of a frump," yet says that it's no reason for his daughter to be "burned to a crisp," on grounds that he and his wife love their daughter very much.

during which she is wearing one of her personal collection of four mink coats. She is obnoxious and aggressive, as depicted in the novel, in addition to resorting to threats and even physical violence. She shoves, pushes, and hits her father, and does likewise to Violet Beauregarde while both girls are descending the Chocolate Room stairs

Julie Dawn Cole portrayed Veruca in the film. The song "I Want it Now" was recorded on Cole's thirteenth birthday, and Veruca's trashing of the Golden Egg Room required a total of thirty-six takes.

I want it now lyrics (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Pavillion/6441/lyrics.html)

I Want It Now!
I want a feast
I want a bean feast
Cream buns and doughnuts and fruitcake with no nuts so good you could go nuts.
No, now!
I want a ball
I want a party
Pink macaroons and a million balloons and performing baboons and
Give it to me now.
I want the world,
I want the whole world.
I want to lock it all up in my pocket
It's my bar of chocolate
Give it to me now!
I want today
I want tomorrow
I want to wear them like braids in my hair and I don't want to share them
I want a party with roomfuls of laughter
Ten thousand ton of ice cream
And if I don't get the things I am after
I'm going to scream!
I want the works,
I want the whole works!
Presents and prizes and sweets and surprises in all shapes and sizes,
And now!
Don't care how I want it now!
Don't care how I want it now!

Oompa Loompa Song
Veruca Salt
Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do
I have another puzzle for you
Oompa Loompa doom-pa-da-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me
Who do you blame when your kid is a brat?
Pampered and spoiled like a Siamese cat
Blaming the kids is a lie and a shame
You know exactly who's to blame

The mother and the father

Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-da
If you're not spoiled, then you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do

wiki-more Veruca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veruca_salt)
In the 2005 adaptation, Veruca (played by Julia Winter) resides in a palatial mansion in Buckinghamshire. Her repugnant personality is still intact, but it is expressed in a cold and direct manner rather than whiny and loud.

.... "Daddy, I want a flying glass elevator," falls on deaf ears. Instead of catering to his spoiled daughter, he scolds Veruca by sternly saying the only thing she will be getting that day "is a b*th, and that's final."
(- note from brown. Not a good thing in the MC world, let me assure you all)

Veruca brazenly enters the premises and attempts to take a squirrel anyway. She is immediately engulfed by the creatures, pinned to the floor, rejected as a "bad nut," and hauled into the garbage chute.

In the 1971 movie, the squirrels are substituted by geese sorting Golden Eggs. Wonka denies Veruca one of the birds, after which she sings her musical solo "I Want It Now." After then making a mess of the room, she stands atop the egg-sorting machine, which judges her a "bad egg," and sends her plummeting down the garbage chute en route to the furnace. (- note from brown. rabbit hole, anyone?)

Veruca's impending doom in the chute is the subject of the novel's poem and the 2005 lyrics, as is the Salts' blame for turning Veruca into a spoiled brat. The 1971 lyrics center on who is to blame for Veruca's avarice, and what can be done to prevent children from suffering a similar fate. In the novel and first film, the song is performed after Veruca and her parents go into the chute. The 2005 version is sung to an upbeat and psychedelic folk-style melody along the lines of Oliver's "Good Morning Starshine," which was quoted by Wonka earlier in the picture.

http://blogstruk.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/VerucaSalt.jpg
http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/intel/07/09/14_verucasalt_lgl.jpg
http://images.teamsugar.com/files/users/0/3987/43_2007/vs.jpg

brown.

[brown velvet]

Shadows...http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/04%2008%2008/charliewonka.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/2005CharlieBucket.JPGI see old fashioned clothes, meant to be grateful (lucky to be there) a hole in a brick wall, camaraderie, WW11 evacuee

original charlie bucket with lollipop
http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/mo/mo7/willywonka_150x250.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFZ1OsxuY6061oMa4qNgWn4epCfJg
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http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/04%2008%2008/charliea.jpg
http://bp0.blogger.com/_MwFJ-5ckKsQ/SBApiD9quiI/AAAAAAAAAUs/4xrwo-8qMIA/s1600/P4230432.JPGartist (http://lindsaykaymadethis.blogspot.com/2008/04/wonkaville.html)

wiki-more (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Bucket)
Charlie Bucket is the hero in all versions and wins the factory due to his moral character and honesty. He lives with his mother, who remains nameless, and his four grandparents: Grandma Georgina, Grandpa George, Grandma Josephine, and Grandpa Joe, who is also Charlie's best friend. In the 2005 version of the film, Charlie's father is also present, whereas in the 1971 version he was mentioned as being dead.

In the 2005 film adaptation, Charlie continuously asks Wonka questions about his youth, often sending him into flashbacks. Charlie loves his family very much, and refuses to give them up in exchange for Wonka's factory. In the end, Charlie helps Wonka reconcile with his father, and moves his family into the factory (to be exact, into the chocolate room). Charlie's family in this particular version of events seem to be English but residing in America, though the exact location is more ambiguous than the previous film. Also, Charlie in both the 2005 and the 1971 version has a television set.

Charlie is mocked by Augustus, but he just shrugs off his comments. Even though Veruca is spoiled rotten and Mike likes violence, Mike tolerates him and Veruca and Violet are generally kind to him - they replace Augustus Gloop's role in this version as the kindest to him.

more info (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367594/)
This is a story of an ordinary little boy named Charlie Bucket. He was not faster, or stronger, or more clever than other children. His family was not rich or powerful or well-connected; in fact, they barely had enough to eat. Charlie Bucket was the luckiest boy in the entire world. He just didn't know it yet.

Johnny Depp used game show hosts as well as children television hosts, such as "Mr. Rogers", as his inspiration for his performance as Willy Wonka. He also said in interviews that Willy Wonka would be "part Howard Hughes-reclusive, part 1970s glamorous rock star".

The singing voice of the Oompa-Loompas belongs to that of Danny Elfman who overdubbed himself dozens of times.
Deep Roy played every Oompa-Loompa himself, repeating the same movements several hundred times. While these were then put together digitally, each Oompa-Loompa represents a separate performance by Roy. In recognition of this, Roy's salary was raised to $1,000,000.

Deep Roy.
His given name, Gordeep, means 'God's Light.'
Parents are Indian.
There are 165 Oompa-Loompas in Tim Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) and he plays every one of them. For this role, he had to take Pilates and dance lessons in preparations for the four musical numbers.Often collaborates with Tim Burton.A true 'Blue Blooded' descendant of India's Maharajah Vinepal, 26 generations removed.

In the flashback where Wonka opens his factory, Johnny Depp holds out his giant scissors in a posed fashion, very much in the style of his title character in Edward Scissorhands (1990).

Some of the buttons in the Glass elevator: - Incompetent Fools - T-Bone Steak Jell-O - Secretarial Poodles - Cocoa Cats - Mechanical Clouds - Stars in their Pies - Nice Plums - Up And Out - Fragile Egos - Black Box of Frogs - Weird Lollipops - Mighty Jam Monitor - Creative Dog Flip - Elastic Forest - Leaky Canes - Dessert Island - People Poo - Pie Cream - Spewed Vegetables - Naffy Taffy - Lickety Split Peas - Honeycombs and Brushes - Old Sneezes and Smells Dept. - Spewed Dumplings - Television Room - Whizzdoodles - Chocolate Lip Rookies - Blackberry Sausages - Yankee- Doodles - Orange Egg Flip - Root Beer Goggles - Pastry Room - Heart Shaped Lungs - Projection Room


Wonka's line, "Good morning, starshine, the earth says hello," is the first line of the song "Good Morning Starshine" from the musical "Hair".

In the same room as the machine that makes the "three-course meal" gum, there are large rotating drums that look like bowls filled with colored balls. These are real machines that make large jawbreakers, or Gobstoppers.

During the Wonka Boat scene, one of the glowing signs on the round doors reads "Beetle Juicing", a reference to Tim Burton's 1988 film "Beetle Juice".

Near the beginning of the movie, Charlie's dad is shown to be working at a factory producing toothpaste with the brand name Smilex. "Smylex" is the brand name of the poisonous gas used by the Joker in Batman (1989), another Tim Burton film.
more trivia here... (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367594/trivia)

Charlie divisions?
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brown.

[brown velvet]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/2005CharlieBucket.JPGCharlie
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Pinkhttp://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall001a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall002a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall005a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall006a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall007a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall008a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall010a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall011a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall012a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall016a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall017a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall020a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall021a.jpg black and red, anyone?http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall022a.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wall023a.jpg
school, Wallhttp://www.vyrics.com/files/images/20.jpgschool, Dark Angelhttp://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/04%2008%2008/school01.jpg
http://charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory.net/images/wallpapers/charlie_and_the_chocolate_factory.jpg

http://charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory.net/images/wallpapers/charlie_and_the_chocolate_factory2.jpg

http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/photographs/assets/another_brick_in_the_wall.jpghttp://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/04%2008%2008/labyrinthwall.jpg
Labyrinth... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_%28film%29)
Pans Labyrith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan%27s_Labyrinth)
Medieval labyrinth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Labyrinth_1_%28from_Nordisk_familjebok%29.png
In Greek mythology, the Labyrinth (Greek λαβύρινθος labyrinthos) was an elaborate structure designed and built by the legendary artificer Daedalus for King Minos of Crete at Knossos. Its function was to hold the Minotaur, a creature that was half man and half bull and was eventually killed by the Athenian hero Theseus. Daedalus had made the Labyrinth so cunningly that he himself could barely escape it after he built it.[1] Theseus was aided by Ariadne, who provided him with a fateful thread, literally the "clew", or "clue", to wind his way back again.


brown.

[brown velvet]

that's a whole lot better :D


brown.

[soulja]

http://fashionista.com/images/saleisha%20cover.jpg
Saleisha Stowers on the cover of Florida International Magazine.

stylized left eye plus sign of silence, interesting that they painted the two fingers used for the ''victory'' sign or horns sign/venus/lucifer.

like they are saying ''don't talk about the satanic abuse''
http://www.trouw.nl/multimedia/archive/00188/Churchill_verwijder_188846g.jpg


Saleisha Stowers (born January 10, 1986), is an African American fashion model who became the winner of Cycle 9 of America's Next Top Model

Early life/modeling career

In her Seventeen Magazine interview, Saleisha stated she had a rough life growing up because both her parents were drug addicts, and her mother had bipolar disorder. Growing up, therefore, she lived with her grandmother in Madera, California. She attended Camp T-Zone, Tyra Banks' self-esteem camp for girls when she was 14. Saleisha worked as a receptionist in Los Angeles. Before appearing on Cycle 9, Saleisha was signed with Photogenics Model Management and had also appeared in a commercial for fast-food restaurant Wendy's, with actor Tom Lenk. She has modeled for DOMIJ clothing. She was also an extra in an episode of the TV series Ugly Betty and on two episodes of the Tyra Banks Show, modeling for Rami, Project Runway season four contestant. She had an ad for 24hour Fitness. She also modeled for Especially Yours wigs, and was featured in a fashion spread for In Touch magazine. She was recruited for America's Next Top Model, which she subsequently won.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saleisha_Stowers

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z180/Typhoonbbs/Cycle9promo.jpg

[brown velvet]

So much great info in this thread, it's mind boggling!
Some of you might have seen this blog already but it is a must read concerning the content in this thread -
http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/
Keep the info coming!

thanks for the link, very interesting (my 'new' word, MCM Mind Control Movies ;))


brown.

[soulja]

that's what i call a posting spree brown.

looks like i'm going to spend the next few days reading through your posts :D

[brown velvet]

Cobain was definitely killed by the Illuminati in my opinion, just look at all the info on this thread, not a coincidence.

Another "litle girl/daddy" connection
Negative Creep

This is out of our range (x3)
no
This is getting to be (x3)
gross
I'm a negative creep (x3)
and I'm stoned
I'm a negative creep (x3)
and I'm
I'm
Daddy's little girl ain't a girl no more (x6)


Sorry, I couldn't reprint it all, too much.
I cannot express just how much this song saddens and sickens me.... :(:(:(
His pain must have been overwhelming and immense.


brown.

[soulja]

last post for today and a rather sick one at that.

Slaughtered Vomit Dolls
http://www.doomedmoviethon.com/images/flick_images/slaughteredvomitdolls_1.jpg

director : Lucifer Valentine

Tagline: What you are about to see are Satan's proudest moments

The gruesome tapestry of psychological manifestations of a nineteen year old bulimic runaway stripper-turned prostitute as she descends into a hellish pit of satanic nightmares and hallucinations.

At the age of thirteen, Angela Aberdeen (Ameara Lavey, who somewhat surprisingly appears not to be in any way related to Church of Satan founder Anton LaVey) burns down her neighborhood church and runs away from home. She presumably spends the next few years living on her wits, her skill with a sob story, and her ten sticky fingers, but by her late teens, Angela becomes a bit more ambitious. Trading on the leftovers of her childhood training in ballet, she gets a job dancing at a strip club, initially with the intention of raising enough money to pay for school. In point of fact, the bulk of Angela’s income rapidly gets diverted into servicing the drug addictions she picks up, which— in combination with the bulimia she acquires around the same time— eventually ruin her health, looks, and stamina to the point that she is forced to make the switch from stripping to hooking. (It’s no easy matter to hang onto a job as a dancer once you fall into the habit of nodding out onstage, after all.) Thus does Angela open the door to her final undoing, for a young man named Henry (Hank Skinny, or so I surmise) becomes one of her regular customers, and Angela makes the catastrophic mistake of falling in love with him. Henry, you see, is not merely a Satanist (he converts Angela somewhere along the line— perhaps at about the same time that he re-christens her “Blisters”) but a serial killer as well, and he murders four women and one man between March 31st and April 5th of 1994. It isn’t obvious exactly how much Angela really knows about Henry’s activities, but she plainly suspects enough to fear for her sanity and safety as she becomes increasingly attached to and dependent upon her lunatic client.

[americana]

This is a photograph of the victim in that horrific incident on the Greyhound bus in Canada.

Tim McLean is shown with the daughter of a friend.

Interesting that the box for the game Candy Land is shown so visibly in the photo.

Any thoughts?

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2008/08/01/wide-mclean-baby-cp-5260674.jpg

[mrguitarbear]

Check out the imagery in this video by Pink , ' Just Like a Pill ' :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHpK-ejSfBo

* White rabbits
* A childcatcher-like figure
* A homosexual orgy
* Fight club like scenes
* Running down a corridor

Pink : ' Don't Let Me Get Me ' :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx10ZrVeKBk

Her reflection in the mirror insults her , symbolic of an ' alter '

...Everyday I fight a war against the mirror
I cant take the person starin back at me
Im a hazard to myself

Dont let me get me
Im my own worst enemy
Its bad when you annoy yourself
So irritating
Dont wanna be my friend no more
I wanna be somebody else

I wanna be somebody else, yeah

LA told me, youll be a pop star,
All you have to change is everything you are.
Tired of being compared to damn britney spears
Shes so pretty, that just aint me

Doctor, doctor wont you please prescribe me
Somethin
A day in the life of someone else?
Cuz Im a hazard to myself...

[mrguitarbear]

This is a photograph of the victim in that horrific incident on the Greyhound bus in Canada.

Tim McLean is shown with the daughter of a friend.

Interesting that the box for the game Candy Land is shown so visibly in the photo.

Any thoughts?

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2008/08/01/wide-mclean-baby-cp-5260674.jpg

To be honest , Tim McLean is looking like an MK slave as well. He was a carnival worker ( link to Venice carnival symbolically ) , his favourite band was Insane Clown Posse , he had the Jokawild symbol tattooed on him.

This is looking more and more like a staged event , one MK slave killing another one.

[hunkahunka]

Slaughtered Vomit Dolls trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkDNI8enTRI

[soulja]

http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/photographs/assets/another_brick_in_the_wall.jpghttp://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/04%2008%2008/labyrinthwall.jpg
Labyrinth... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_%28film%29)
Pans Labyrith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan%27s_Labyrinth)
Medieval labyrinth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Labyrinth_1_%28from_Nordisk_familjebok%29.png
In Greek mythology, the Labyrinth (Greek λαβύρινθος labyrinthos) was an elaborate structure designed and built by the legendary artificer Daedalus for King Minos of Crete at Knossos. Its function was to hold the Minotaur, a creature that was half man and half bull and was eventually killed by the Athenian hero Theseus. Daedalus had made the Labyrinth so cunningly that he himself could barely escape it after he built it.[1] Theseus was aided by Ariadne, who provided him with a fateful thread, literally the "clew", or "clue", to wind his way back again.


brown.

http://www.totalfilm.com/__data/assets/image/672897/pans-labyrinth-poster.jpg

Pans labyrinth is an interesting flick in regards to MK. i don't have screens of it so i gotta live with the stills found on the net.
also it's been a while since i've seen it so this is by no means a thorough analysis.

just a few things..

the very first scene zooms straight into her left eye, that's just the director letting us know what the story is really about. - MK -

it also starts with a narrating voice telling the story of a princess (bloodline reference not princess programming imo) from an underworld kingdom who went (or fled, can't remember) to the upper world where she got blinded by the light of the sun wich resulted in her memory being wiped out. (does that sound like electro shock treatment after programing sessions to wipe out the memory of abuse? i think so)

Orphelia is the name of the princess who is the main character, orphelia (orphant - bloodliner placed into a smokescreen family)

she is told her father who was a soldier died and now her mum hooked up with a new guy who is Hauptmann in francos army, he's a fascist who commands a whole division stationed at an compound in the mountanious woods were the whole story plays out. a truly sadistic guy who later on has great fun while torturing prisoners to death.

http://i27.tinypic.com/23t4j9i.jpg

also in one scene they catch two guys who they suspect of being part of the rebels, father and son, who claim to just went out to hunt rabbits but he doesn't believe them, suddenly he snaps at a ''wrong'' word and beats the face of the father in with a bottle (pretty gory scene for a childrens flick btw) then shoots the son. turns out they said the truth as they find a dead rabbit in their bag.

the scene just shows that the stepfather is one cruel inhuman psychopath. (like those nazi MK programmers)
theres also a lot of emphasis put on his watch wich gets quiet a few scenes throughout the flick.
theres another scene where he tidies his military boots, makes them real shiny (play on Mengele)

btw talking bout inhuman psychopaths, the black cars they all arrive in sports a familiar symbol (couldn't find a pic on the net but watch the movie you'll see it) the symbol being the one with the five arrows and not just the number of arrows is right but also how they're arranged.
looks just like this one
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2005/08aug/redshield.gif
a symbol of the rothschilds (http://images.google.de/images?ndsp=18&um=1&hl=de&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&q=rothschild+arrows&start=0&sa=N)

anyway, orphelia is visited by a fairy in her room who leads her to the labyrinth, wich is accessed through a spiral staircase (internal MK symbol/structure)
there she meets Pan, the horned demon who is of course the good guy in the movie. (illumie mindset)
http://www.celluloid-dreams.de/content/images/kritiken-filmbilder/pans-labyrinth/pans-labyrinth-4.jpg

btw in that other children flick, ''legends of narnia'' pan is also one of the good guys
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Chronicles-Narnia-02.jpg

pan tells orphelia that she's the Princess conceived by the Moon and daughter of the King of the underworld, she therefor carries the mark/sign.
http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2006/05/27/art_films/story.jpg
(Moonchild reference)

he then sends her on a number of quests (forgot the reason why) one involving a giant frog who lives inside a tree.

remember the mi6 blog talking about a frog story where the frog is symbolic for a pedophile?
well the frog spits on her and she generally gets really dirty during that quest wich also involves a key in some way.

symbolic for her being raped/abused wich is a key element of MK ?

next quest involves a cannibal where she needs to sneak into his room and use the key she gained from the frog quest to open some box.
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Pans-Labyrinth-movie-01.jpg
not to see in this pic but there pictures of child sacrifice on the wall of the room. Pan tells her she must not eat from the food on the table.
she ignores it and eats some grapes (if i remember correctly) wich causes the cannibal to wake up from his unconscious like state.

she still manages to open the box in wich she finds a ritual style dagger (remember springmeier writing about at one point a dagger will be a present given to the monarch victim)

however Pan is furious with her seeing as she did not excately as he told her, she broke the rules wich is a big nono.

at around that time her mother gets very ill (also shes pregnant with the child from the Hauptmann)

Orphelia is despaired so Pan turns up again and gives her another chance, he asks her, will you do everything i tell you without questioning ?!
she agrees and receives a voodoo style doll wich appears to be made out of roots. this doll is to be placed under her mothers bed and fed two drops of blood daily. with the doll under the bed the mother recovers fast.

(saying voodoo/witchcraft/blood rituals work/are a good thing)

however the Hauptmann finds the doll and shows it to her mother who throws it into a fire.
as the doll burns the mother suddenly dies. it doesn't bother the hauptmann too much tho because at least they managed to save the child she was pregnant with, a boy.

Pan tells orphelia that she shall bring her newborn brother to the labyrinth where he needs some drops of blood from him to open a door/portal of sorts.
all that on fullmoon. the hauptmann follows orphelia and then shoots her while taking the boy off her.

her blood opens the portal while she dies.

but she only dies in the real world and soon finds herself in the underworld infront of her real parents who are King and Queen.
http://www.cgfocus.com/images/moviereviews/PansLabrynith/Home.jpg
one throne is empty for that's her to take. (also theres a rose/cross symbol in the back wich can't be seen in the pic)

in this final scene she wears red shoes and a dress with roses (Mk'd bloodliner/hierachy slave)
http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/36/23/74/18865817.jpg

this is brotherhood/Mk symbolism for the death and rebirth process/ritual. also light shines on her symbolising enlightenment (passing a certain grade of initiation)

maybe Pink went through a similar experience (ritual) ?
http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/pink.jpg

[soulja]

Slaughtered Vomit Dolls trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkDNI8enTRI

that's just so fucked up.

how someone can make a movie like this is beyond me.

[rixxmixxhell]

Yeah that is just pathetic really. Did you catch the names to the people involved, ...Lay Ve....Lucifer?? I mean, next step of desensitisation no?

Snuff films the Joe public will be watching if it carries in like this.:(

Nice piece about Pans Labyrinth.
Rick

[hunkahunka]

Yeah that is just pathetic really. Did you catch the names to the people involved, ...Lay Ve....Lucifer?? I mean, next step of desensitisation no?

Snuff films the Joe public will be watching if it carries in like this.:(

Nice piece about Pans Labyrinth.
Rick

http://www.humanities.uci.edu/americanstudies/kingkong.jpg

yes, its truly bizarre that large amounts of money are being spent to
produce this stuff. Why? For who? People allegedly used to faint at the sight
of the original King Kong, and now they are watching stuff like Slaughtered Vomit Dolls?
If there truly are millions of MK slaves around, and among them hundreds of thousands of 'programmers' , etc. I guess these people are who it will appeal to on some level. And then to round things out, there is the morbid curiosity of the idiocracy and the young.

There is of course an element to all of this of the traveling carnival freak show. That is, imo, most of the appeal of things like pornography
and gore. A lot of people who watch porn do so out of a combination of boredom and curiosity, and do not watch it out of some aching sexual desire for perversion. People are naturally curious to find out what is being hidden behind the curtain, and my, does the 'intelligence community' have a lot of things 'hidden behind the curtain'. So why not go to them for your next batch of exotic gawk-worthy curiosities to unveil ?

The scary part is when I realize that a film like 'My Own Private Idaho' depicted something real, and something 'by design'. It denoted something far bigger than the sum of its parts, and served some purpose of 'revealing', though it never came out and said anything specifically. The film was a portrait as opposed to a book. In fact it never was a book. It was written
as a film, as a painting , if you will. A book explains in detail what is happening and why. A painting, graphic, or photograph gives you only the visual picture , and it is up to your eyes and brain to recognize and interpret the images. That is what 'My Own Private Idaho' was, imo. A huge two hour graphic image, one huge photograph. That , imo, is why most porn is so incredibly crappy. It is one long boring photograph, a 'dirty picture' produced by people who only know how to snap dirty pictures, so the net effect is that you feel like you are staring at the same photograph for one or two hours.

The intrinsic thrill is supposed to be the voyeuristic pleasure of seeing something that would have been kept a secret made public.

But then there is the pleasure of the exhibitionists themselves to consider as well. The exhibitionist plays to the voyeur.

So, My Own Private Idaho was a leaked 'photograph' of something secret
and then twenty years later, the same milieu is putting out things like 'Slaughtered Vomit Dolls.'

I can speculate on the explanation , that the intelligence community take an exhibitionist's pleasure in 'flashing' the public with such portraits, such
glimpses. YEs, it is an attempt to desensitize, familiarize and convert the public to their own tastes. They are like any enthusiast , really.
For example of an enthusiast:
A car fanatic collects cars, creates cars, draws pictures of them, collects pictures of them, but there is also the desire to 'exhibit' his cars and share
the enthusiasm with others, to draw them in and involve them.

Is that not what these Private Idaho pedos, and now snuff pornographers are doing?
The scary part is that it is not just fantasy.

They are showing us an exhibit of their works, their 'collection'.

[hunkahunka]

that's just so fucked up.

how someone can make a movie like this is beyond me.

Soulja, one thing that strikes me about your MI6 blog excerpts is that
little to none of the actual 'programming' imagery is recalled.
It seems that what is recalled or recounted most are the acts of
sadism and violence, and there is little mention of the imagery
that would be used, ie: costumes, props, films, music, etc.

[rixxmixxhell]

http://www.humanities.uci.edu/americanstudies/kingkong.jpg

yes, its truly bizarre that large amounts of money are being spent to
produce this stuff. Why? For who? People allegedly used to faint at the sight
of the original King Kong, and now they are watching stuff like Slaughtered Vomit Dolls?
If there truly are millions of MK slaves around, and among them hundreds of thousands of 'programmers' , etc. I guess these people are who it will appeal to on some level. And then to round things out, there is the morbid curiosity of the idiocracy and the young.

There is of course an element to all of this of the travelling carnival freak show. That is, imo, most of the appeal of things like pornography
and gore. A lot of people who watch porn do so out of a combination of boredom and curiosity, and do not watch it out of some aching sexual desire for perversion. People are naturally curious to find out what is being hidden behind the curtain, and my, does the 'intelligence community' have a lot of things 'hidden behind the curtain'. So why not go to them for your next batch of exotic gawk-worthy curiosities to unveil ?

The scary part is when I realize that a film like 'My Own Private Idaho' depicted something real, and something 'by design'. It denoted something far bigger than the sum of its parts, and served some purpose of 'revealing', though it never came out and said anything specifically. The film was a portrait as opposed to a book. In fact it never was a book. It was written
as a film, as a painting , if you will. A book explains in detail what is happening and why. A painting, graphic, or photograph gives you only the visual picture , and it is up to your eyes and brain to recognize and interpret the images. That is what 'My Own Private Idaho' was, imo. A huge two hour graphic image, one huge photograph. That , imo, is why most porn is so incredibly crappy. It is one long boring photograph, a 'dirty picture' produced by people who only know how to snap dirty pictures, so the net effect is that you feel like you are staring at the same photograph for one or two hours.

The intrinsic thrill is supposed to be the voyeuristic pleasure of seeing something that would have been kept a secret made public.

But then there is the pleasure of the exhibitionists themselves to consider as well. The exhibitionist plays to the voyeur.

So, My Own Private Idaho was a leaked 'photograph' of something secret
and then twenty years later, the same milieu is putting out things like 'Slaughtered Vomit Dolls.'

I can speculate on the explanation , that the intelligence community take an exhibitionist's pleasure in 'flashing' the public with such portraits, such
glimpses. YEs, it is an attempt to desensitize, familiarize and convert the public to their own tastes. They are like any enthusiast , really.
For example of an enthusiast:
A car fanatic collects cars, creates cars, draws pictures of them, collects pictures of them, but there is also the desire to 'exhibit' his cars and share
the enthusiasm with others, to draw them in and involve them.

Is that not what these Private Idaho pedos, and now snuff pornographers are doing?
The scary part is that it is not just fantasy.

They are showing us an exhibit of their works, their 'collection'.

Hey.

I am wondering if actual 'control' was used in the filming of these films. Real pornography but obviously edited, im afraid we wouldn't know no difference except those in the loop. Knowing that the joe public are watching it and knowing they are real scenes made to look like proper acting would serve them perfectly. If you see what i mean...

I cant really remember Private Idaho - i will download it on a torrent.

And i understand what you say about pornography and curiosity. Ever been a kid and happened across a porn mag down the street??, well i had a quick glimpse, natural curiosity in this case didn't kill the cat (me) but some people go more and more, i know a idiot at work who constantly tries to show all his work mates his 'brilliant' videos of porn on his phone......it is truly .....pathetic. Like its a good thing, like i would be impressed at his primitive 'manness'. and truly degrading videos he has too....this is the types of people who are unwitting victims who spread and create dark energies for others to feed on.

Rick

[emerald]

GUS VAN SA(I)NT STRIKES AGAIN!

Franco Uncomfortable With Penn Kissing Scenes

Spider-man star James Franco felt awkward kissing Sean Penn in the upcoming Harvey Milk biopic Milk because the smooch wasn't exactly a quick peck on the cheek.

The two men play gay lovers in the Gus Van Sant film and Franco admits their first kissing scene was one of the toughest he has ever had to shoot.

He tells USA Today newspaper, "We're sitting on the curb, kissing... and it's not stopping.

"A minute doesn't sound like a long time, but, in front of 200 people, it's a long time.

"He (Penn) had a beard and the beard is scraping me. Afterwards, we were like, 'All right, how are those (Oakland) Raiders (American football team).'"

And Franco reveals Penn made sure he kept things light on the set - in between takes: "He would always ask me if my girlfriend was the better kisser."

[emerald]

Goldberg Targets Foolish Donors Over Play Delay

Latest: Whoopi Goldberg has blasted ignorant financiers for delaying the opening of her Broadway revival For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When The Rainbow Is Enuf.

The show, featuring singer India.Arie in her Broadway bow, was scheduled to open later this month but the production has suffered a setback after donors pulled out over concerns about the title of Nitozake Shange's play.

Goldberg, who is among the producers of the show, says, "We had a couple of major donors who didn't look at the title.

"They said, 'We can't say for coloured girls or suicide - we certainly can't say them in the same sentence.'

"I was like, 'Did you not know this play?'

"But more money is coming in."

Producers have not yet announced when the play will be rescheduled.

[hunkahunka]

Hey.

I am wondering if actual 'control' was used in the filming of these films. Real pornography but obviously edited, im afraid we wouldn't know no difference except those in the loop. Knowing that the joe public are watching it and knowing they are real scenes made to look like proper acting would serve them perfectly. If you see what i mean...
I cant really remember Private Idaho - i will download it on a torrent.
Rick

interesting idea, that the mk controlled actors and actresses may be
acting under a 'director' who is really more of a 'controller'.
I agree that a lot of real porn is produced in this way, so is this 'slaughtered
vomit dolls' made the same way? I think this film is another disclosure of something that eventually will be common knowledge: the CIA torturing, mind controlling, 'slaughtering' people.

My Own Private Idaho is available to watch on Youtube right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wwAftKY1ks

[rixxmixxhell]

Thanks- will watch that ;)

Wouldn't it be soo incredibly sad if they are indeed really doing these acts, not just 'good' acting - if thats what 'good' acting is supposed to be!?

This would usher in a new time and a new sick money earner for those looking for cheap shocks etc of human degradation.

and like said before, people used to pass out at such a sight of a big gorilla trolling some building - look how desensitized we are as a conciousness. This may be the next logical steps for them. Push it further. It may be going way deeper than we could all expect.

Concerned for unwitting actors or those 'willing' to act in such films. They may not even know. But then again how would they then be made to not see such a film they 'starred' in ~!?!?!?!~ either way, concerns all-round.

Rick

[soulja]

Soulja, one thing that strikes me about your MI6 blog excerpts is that
little to none of the actual 'programming' imagery is recalled.
It seems that what is recalled or recounted most are the acts of
sadism and violence, and there is little mention of the imagery
that would be used, ie: costumes, props, films, music, etc.

yea there is indeed very little recollection of the elements you mentioned.
the only script that gets quiet a few mentions is Alice in Wonderland from wich they often quote passages/refer to parts of it.

a few other things i remember are a some places they were brought to where they had sculptures, special shapes, images etc.. used for programming. these things were tied into/part of 'rites' but actually according to the blogers were used for programming and smokescreened as rites.
then you had those puzzles/riddles (haven't posted about them tho)

they also mentioned a couple of books wich were used for programming sessions or to reinforce existing programming.

the thing i gained from the blog besides spooks slang and besides a few new insights on programming/MK in general, was a look into the spooks world wich i imagined somewhat different. this may even relate to what you said about films like private idaho. this movies/pictures communicate different ''truths'' to different people. the average joe will just think it's a weird flick or whatever while people in the know will pick up the subliminal hints, coded imagery and all that wich reveals the real story. the one the director really wanted to tell. the thing is that so many movies (imo) are made/used this way (same goes for books, music and art). the scale of it all is mind blowing.

those movies communicate on different levels, layer upon layer, and depending on your understanding/knowledge of the secret world the elite lives in, their mindset and of course MK wich is an essential part of it all will determine how much of what is really said in the movie/picture/song will be picked up by you.

i liked your sensationalist analogy, i think besides the desensitization process and the communicate to those in the know aspect this also is an element of why they do it. and of course the whole trigger the slaves thing.

also they have (according to some MK survivors and springmeier) a whole underground film biz, producing snuff films and the sickest porn one could imagine. so with giving us all those gory movies wich just get worse and worse, more graphic more explicit, etc.. is a way of presenting us with as close as they can get away with the 'real' thing.

[soulja]

Goldberg Targets Foolish Donors Over Play Delay

Latest: Whoopi Goldberg has blasted ignorant financiers for delaying the opening of her Broadway revival For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When The Rainbow Is Enuf.

The show, featuring singer India.Arie in her Broadway bow, was scheduled to open later this month but the production has suffered a setback after donors pulled out over concerns about the title of Nitozake Shange's play.

Goldberg, who is among the producers of the show, says, "We had a couple of major donors who didn't look at the title.

"They said, 'We can't say for coloured girls or suicide - we certainly can't say them in the same sentence.'

"I was like, 'Did you not know this play?'

"But more money is coming in."

Producers have not yet announced when the play will be rescheduled.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/de/Colorsuicidecover.jpg

For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When the Rainbow Is Enuf is a 1975 stageplay by Ntozake Shange. First performed at the Bacchanal, a woman's bar outside of Berkeley, California, it was first produced in New York City at Studio Riobea in 1975; produced Off-Broadway at the Anspacher Public Theatre in 1976; and produced on Broadway at the Booth Theatre that same year. A heavily edited version of the play was made into a TV movie in 1982 featuring Shange, actresses Laurie Carlos and Tony Award winner Trazana Beverly from the stage production, dancer Sarita Allen, and with noteworthy early-career performances by Alfre Woodard and Lynn Whitfield.

For Colored Girls brought to the stage a perspective on what it is to be female and black in the modern United States that many in the Civil Rights Movement era found groundbreaking, especially in the fact that it was, and has continued to be, done in mainstream American stage and media venues. According to Hilton Als in The New Yorker's Critic's Notebook (March 5, 2007), "...all sorts of people who might never have set foot in a Broadway house -- black nationalists, feminist separatists -- came to experience Shange's firebomb of a poem. ...[T]he disenfranchised heard a voice they could recognize, one that combined the trickster spirit of Richard Pryor with a kind of mournful blues."

Structurally, For Colored Girls is a series of twenty poems — referred to as a "choreopoem" — performed through a cast of nameless women, each known only by a color: Lady in Yellow, Lady in Purple, and so forth. The poems deal with love, abandonment, rape, and abortion. The performances of the nine actresses are equally focused on their specific stories; e.g., Lady in Blue’s visceral account of a woman who chooses to abort her baby; Lady in Red’s horrifying tale of domestic abuse. The performances are sharp and bone-chilling. Shange's own name means “she who walks like a lion” in isiXhosa, and her writing doesn’t pull any punches when it comes to these hard-hitting issues. Her dealings with the hardships of physical and emotional abuse, the strength of unity, and the tragedy of loss have a focus and passion that has made the play and its incarnations last a generation.

The play has its moments of laughter and joy as well. Lady in Brown embodies the tenacity of youth as she runs away from home to live with Haitian liberator Toussaint L’Ouverture. And although the play expresses a certain dissatisfaction with the roles men have played in its characters’ lives, it transcends male-bashing and becomes a message of self-respect and reverence. The end of the play brings together all of the women for “a laying on of hands,” where Shange evokes the power of womanhood as the Lady in Brown begins the mantra “I found God in myself/ and I loved her/ I loved her fiercely.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_Colored_Girls_Who_Have_Considered_Suicide_When _the_Rainbow_Is_Enuf

http://www.naprixas.com/portfolio/colorgirls.jpg

this is another script played in quiet a few theaters

http://www.baxter.co.za/images/cgirls3.jpg
Quanita Adams, Warona Seane, Roshina Ratnam, Amrain Ismail-Essop and Jacqui Pickering in For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide / When The Rainbow Is Enuf

no way of telling whether the actors in this play are MK, but the woman on the left gives a special greeting to her sorority sisters ;)

[soulja]

regarding truly sick gore/snuff movies, case in point ''August Underground''

Two serial killers go on a murdering rampage as one films the outcome from behind a video camera. One of the most realistically portrayed simulated snuff films.

I'd heard about this movie for years and finally got the chance and bought the DVD. Amazing. Honestly, if I found this on a blank VHS, I'd think it was a snuff film. It looks that real. And the idea that it shows no opening credits help it look more real. This is similar to something like Blair Witch Project, in which it is all supposed to be something some people videotaped, and it is supposed to have poor quality, only this makes Blair Witch wish it could be even close to as good as this film is. It is a must see, just a truly shocking, real film. It is like going into the minds of some teenagers who like to kill. While it is no Cannibal Holocaust, it is close, and a masterpiece in it's own right. As others say, it doesn't glorify violence, it near shows it for what it is. It isn't really a film to enjoy and laugh at, it is a film to make you say what the ****? Don't expect a plot or anything, it is a snuff film, it doesn't really have a plot.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0412467/

and the follow up ''August Underground Mordum''

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0410332/

Although not a great film, Mordum will nevertheless find an audience amongst gore-hounds and fans of extreme cinema thanks to some fine stomach-churning effects and a few very sick taboo-busting scenes: a man is forced to emasculate himself with a pair of scissors; a woman makes herself vomit over her two screaming victims (who not once put up any resistance); a man guts a woman, then drops his trousers and proceeds to 'bang away' at the dead woman's abdominal cavity; and then there's the notorious bath scene which takes sexual deviancy on film to a new (low) level—Hell, I don't even want to describe what happens here!!

a user comment on imdb:
If you watched and enjoyed this you are truly ****** in the head.

How do you take pleasure in watching people vomiting in the victims mouths, making them rape each tother and then cutting one of their bellies open to see guts come out while she's still alive THEN to be raped while she's dead.

Also when the man cuts off his penis....

I am ashamed of watching this, people said it was "violent" like Saw.... saw i could handle but this... no .... this isn't violence, this is unimaginably sick, should be banned everywhere.

[soulja]

http://i3.iofferphoto.com/img/item/301/364/16/1st_wave.jpg

First Wave is a Canadian/American TV Show that aired from 1998 to 2001 on the Sci-Fi Channel. The show was created by Chris Brancato, who wrote the seminal X-Files episode "Eve." Francis Ford Coppola was executive producer on the show. In an unusual move, the Sci-Fi Channel picked up the series on a 66-episode contract. The show was subsequently canceled once the contract expired at the end of the third season due to disappointing ratings.

The series was filmed in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

Plot outline

Former thief turned security specialist Kincaid Lawrence "Cade" Foster’s life was idyllic, with a beautiful wife, good job and a nice house. Unbeknownst to him, a race of extraterrestrials called the Gua have identified him as subject 117 in an experiment to test human resilience. As part of this experiment, his life is systematically ruined, including the murder of his wife, for which he is framed. He is the only one of the 117 subjects to solve the riddles of the experiment and escape arrest to live as a fugitive. The Gua are among humans in the form of hybridised genetic clones and plan to enslave humanity—the first of three “waves” intent on conquering and finally destroying the human race. Constantly pursued by the police, and a strange government agency called the Illuminati, Foster discovers previously unknown quatrains of Nostradamus, which tell of three waves which will destroy the planet unless the “twice-blessed man” can stop them. For this reason, Foster investigates strange occurrences which may have ties to the Nostradamus quatrains, hoping to find what he needs to stop the Gua.

"Crazy" Eddie Nambulous is a computer hacker who helps Cade Foster and works on a web tabloid Paranoid Times. He uses Cade’s journal to tell people that the "aliens are here, walking among us, laying the groundwork for an impending invasion." After scanning the prophecies of Nostradamus into his computer, he analyzes and cross-references the quatrains with bizarre current events to which they may be connected. Foster and Eddie use these quatrains to understand the Gua invasion and search for any and all tools that may aid them in stopping the invasion in its First Wave.

One of the Gua, Joshua, does not believe the invasion of Earth is necessary. Although he wants the best for his people, he helps Cade and Eddie stop his people from reaching the “Second Wave” – the invasion itself.

read more here,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Wave

series seems to be about the elite's genetic/genome program with MK undertones. like testing resilience i.e trauma based MK

and subjects are stronger , more intelligent, descendants of an hybrid race etc..

[tintin]

that's just so fucked up.

how someone can make a movie like this is beyond me.

Hi folks,
Was not aware of this thread.
See there is a wealth of info here and
some brilliant stuff. (Not a surprise seeing
some familiar posters).

The quote above refers to SLAUGHTERED VOMIT DOLLS.

Here is the dilemma I have.
Where do I draw the line.
What do I want to see just because it's necessary to
be informed but where do I stop.

I will give an example where I stop.
Recently I posted about ARMSTRONG and all things
related to the BEHEADING in the bus in CANADA.

I saw on the net there was a guy called Eugene ARMSTRONG, an american,
that was BEHEADED in Iraq. That fact was important to me in
my research.

There is a video available on the net where you can see
this beheading. But that was for me the line.
I did NOT want to see that.

Every case is different of course but I just thought
it was of no additional value in my information search.
Sometimes in this conspiracy research you have to
wade through some DISGUSTING things just to know
what it's all about.....

Anyway, just some thoughts on this little dilemma I had....

[soulja]

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/stylewatch/bestlook/070521/cameron_diaz.jpg
Cameron Diaz

Biography

Early life

Diaz was born in San Diego, California, the daughter of Billie (née Early), an import-export agent, and the late Emilio Diaz, who worked for UNOCAL a California oil company as a Field Gauger and in the pipeline department for twenty plus years until he retired in 1998. Her father is a second-generation Cuban American and her mother is of English, German and Cherokee Native American ancestry.She has one older sister, Chimene (born 1970). She attended Long Beach Polytechnic High School at the same time as rapper Snoop Dogg

UNOCAL !? that's the same UNOCAL that Afghan puppet president worked for. her mother has interesting ancestry considering the illumies were very keen to mingle their blood with the native american one, for as they believe the 'occult powers' and ability to disassociate.

and while we're at bloodlines, rumors linking her with that global warming nonsense pushing, pseudo hippy, David de Rothschild
http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20070711/425.deRothschild.diaz.071107.jpg
http://de.eonline.com/gossip/hum/detail/index.jsp?uuid=830493f2-f939-4199-bb16-01e4e42d1e7c



Personal life

Diaz has publicly admitted that she has obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), is deeply germophobic and habitually rubs doorknobs so hard before opening doors to clean them that the original paint fades afterwards. She says she washes her hands and floors "many times" each day and uses her elbows to push open doors. Diaz commented on her progress with the disorder on May 10, 2007, saying, "I think I've made my peace with it".

Diaz received "substantial" defamation damages from suing American Media Incoporated, after The National Enquirer had claimed she was cheating on then-boyfriend Timberlake. Diaz also sued successfully to stop the publication of bondage-themed nude photos taken of her before she became famous.

When Diaz was asked if she can speak Spanish she said:

I go, "God, you know, it all sounds so familiar. I know what you're saying, I really do. I just cannot respond to you back in Spanish. I can barely speak English properly." I didn't grow up in a Cuban or Latin community. I grew up in Southern California on the beach, basically. And I'm third generation. I'm of Cuban descent, but I'm American.

Diaz is currently represented by Creative Artists Agency.

In September 2004, Diaz created some controversy after her appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show. The show in question, concerned celebrities encouraging young people to vote in the upcoming Presidential election. While Diaz was sitting next to her Charlie's Angels co-star Drew Barrymore, singer Christina Aguilera, and hip-hop mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs, Diaz gave the ominous warning "Women have so much to lose. I mean, we could lose the right to our bodies. We could lo--if you think that rape should be legal, then don't vote. But if you think that you have a right to your body, and you have a right to say what happens to you and fight off that danger of losing that, then you should vote." Several pundits like talk show host Laura Ingraham alleged that Diaz was trying to disguise her scare tactic-like statement as another way of saying that if you didn't vote for Democratic challenger John Kerry, a victorious President George W. Bush would somehow try to ban the right to have a legal abortion. The actress was vocal in her support for Al Gore in 2000. Diaz went so far as sporting a t-shirt that read "I won't vote for a son of a Bush!" while making publicity for Charlie's Angels.

On April 15, 2008, her father, Emilio Diaz, died of pneumonia, aged 58

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/cameron-diaz-16th-annual-nickelodeon-kids-choice-awards-EUzW5J.jpg
starfish (?) ''kitten''

[soulja]

Hi folks,
Was not aware of this thread.
See there is a wealth of info here and
some brilliant stuff. (Not a surprise seeing
some familiar posters).

The quote above refers to SLAUGHTERED VOMIT DOLLS.

Here is the dilemma I have.
Where do I draw the line.
What do I want to see just because it's necessary to
be informed but where do I stop.

I will give an example where I stop.
Recently I posted about ARMSTRONG and all things
related to the BEHEADING in the bus in CANADA.

I saw on the net there was a guy called Eugene ARMSTRONG, an american,
that was BEHEADED in Iraq. That fact was important to me in
my research.

There is a video available on the net where you can see
this beheading. But that was for me the line.
I did NOT want to see that.

Every case is different of course but I just thought
it was of no additional value in my information search.
Sometimes in this conspiracy research you have to
wade through some DISGUSTING things just to know
what it's all about.....

Anyway, just some thoughts on this little dilemma I had....

i hear you, when i made the first post about SVD i said it's sick based on the movie cover and what i've read in the plot outline. but after watching the trailer sick wasn't sufficient enough anymore. i'd never watch the whole flick.
too much shit i don't need in my system. whatever valuable clues/info/symbolism it may contains it's just not worth it.

if you're interested in the thread you should start at
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3097&page=8

this is when the whole MK journey begins, most info/pictures posted now is building up on the info at the beginning/throughout the thread.

similar to your thread really.

[hunkahunka]

Here is August Underground Mordum:

warning, you know how sick this stuff is this, so
proceed with caution:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6214394951294683673&q=august+underground+mordum&ei=X5KYSPWUDYOe-QHpg7mmBg&hl=en

the horrible thing is that knowing what I know now about the whole
S&M scene, the drugs, the 'underground' CIA mk stuff, etc.,
for all you know , the 'victims' in this are real.
http://www.carnivalofthegrotesque.co.uk/t_mordum03.jpg

this is Skull n' Bones, BTK -style stuff

http://www.lapetiteboutiqueducinema.com/Articulos/August-Undergrounds-Mordum%20pic03.jpg

[brown velvet]

Hi folks,
Was not aware of this thread.
See there is a wealth of info here and
some brilliant stuff. (Not a surprise seeing
some familiar posters).

The quote above refers to SLAUGHTERED VOMIT DOLLS.

Here is the dilemma I have.
Where do I draw the line.
What do I want to see just because it's necessary to
be informed but where do I stop.

I will give an example where I stop.
Recently I posted about ARMSTRONG and all things
related to the BEHEADING in the bus in CANADA.

I saw on the net there was a guy called Eugene ARMSTRONG, an american,
that was BEHEADED in Iraq. That fact was important to me in
my research.

There is a video available on the net where you can see
this beheading. But that was for me the line.
I did NOT want to see that.

Every case is different of course but I just thought
it was of no additional value in my information search.
Sometimes in this conspiracy research you have to
wade through some DISGUSTING things just to know
what it's all about.....

Anyway, just some thoughts on this little dilemma I had....

Hi,

when I read this first time.... I though, wow, yeah I hear you. Then saw soulja said exactly the same thing....
Can't think of a better set of words than,

I hear you,


brown.

[brown velvet]

Soulja, one thing that strikes me about your MI6 blog excerpts is that
little to none of the actual 'programming' imagery is recalled.
It seems that what is recalled or recounted most are the acts of
sadism and violence, and there is little mention of the imagery
that would be used, ie: costumes, props, films, music, etc.


Hiya:)

maybe there are many more ribbons to the rainbow than I have given credit for. I have read and learnt along side the fab Fritzmeister for many years.
Having learnt the things I have, it is very difficult to try and 'place' all of these trauma's and abuse on to an individual. Therefore different styles for different requirements. Maybe the lack of imagery from the MI6 blogs is not there because they (as a general rule) are not required to do the same things the ones who have a huge amount of imagery programmed in, are?
There's immagination, and then there is intelligent immagination, or 'higher' immagination, like most everyone can play cards, some have a knack for playing better than others? Bloodline / immagery / intelligence are all need for a particaular 'model'?

The horrid 'slaughter' video.
to be honest, having trouble getting some of those pictures out of my head, thinking about it, since watching it, several things occured too me, 1. I have a far better grasp of 'flashback' now, if that is what you get from watching a couple of minutes of (unintentional) horrific 'entertainment' then WTF must it be like to feel that, every time you see a rainbow or a damned emerald ring?
2. In my youth, a long long time ago, we used to (what is called nowadays) binge drink. The difference now seems to be the younger generations coming through think they need to get drunk / pissed / wasted to have a great night out, it was always an extra on top of a good night out (excessive but not like it is now) If the kids are hanging around drinking to excess before they are of an age to go 'clubbing' (not such a nice image to that either, huh?) and they are puking like the video shows, plus, from another angle, the evil world of Eating Disorders.... Puking is not the same, different generations, different rules, puking to 'maintain' sobriety, size, control? Puking for other peoples 'pleasure' wow, takes the more stable members of the community by storm / increduality, reality of the younger ones is, puking is 'normal' a bit of a joke, a neccessity?
3. There are codes for eating disorders, see Fritz, soulja may have posted them with some other codes the other day. I know they are around somewhere, it doesn't matter, there are codes. Bulimia and Anorexia often require hospitalisation. Many of the clients who are taken in, are taken under section, for a certain amount of days, often in to the mental health wards, a totally inappropriate place for many of the young vulnerable girls / women. These girls can return to the same ward, over and over again, become 'regulars' if you like, many have commented that the good nurses are rare, the ones who genuinely care and try to help are often not around for longer than a couple of weeks, then somehow moved to another ward / wing and a new less able / caring / efficent 'carer' takes over. A big pattern, one I have noticed over and over again..... why? :confused: To ensure the girls can be accessed? To ensure no-one 'gets better' and funding continues, ED's are at epidemic levels, still not that many specialised ED places, lots and lots of mental health spaces though..... Makes you wonder doesn't it?

Off to watch 'Idaho' thanks for the link:) I searched and did not find it.... lol


brown.

[hunkahunka]

Tue, August 5, 2008
'Please kill me': Beheading suspect
Man appears before judge, makes plea for his own death

By TAMARA KING, The Canadian Press


PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE, Man. — The first public words Vince Weiguang Li uttered since being charged in a gruesome beheading that has made headlines around the world were a quiet, almost inaudible, plea to be killed.

Li, who is charged with second-degree murder in the death of Tim McLean aboard a Greyhound Bus last Wednesday, stared at the floor through much of his brief appearance in court Tuesday.

Court heard how, since his arrest, the 40-year-old has declined to speak with justice officials and a legal aid lawyer assigned to his case.

When the judge asked him if he wanted a lawyer, Li shook his head no and then quietly said “please kill me.”

Li’s remark was heard by reporters and confirmed by court clerks but was not acknowledged by the judge.


The judge did order a psychiatric evaluation for Li.

He is due back in court Sept. 8.

As part of her submissions to secure the psychiatric evaluation, the Crown attorney in the case, Joyce Dalmyn, revealed disturbing new details about what happened that night on the bus.

According to a police report read by the Crown, officers discovered a plastic bag containing an ear, nose and part of a mouth in the pocket of the accused.

The night of the deadly attack, Dalmyn said the only response officers received from Li: “I have to stay on the bus forever”.

Witnesses have described what they call an uprovoked attack in which McLean was savagely stabbed in front of horrified passengers, and then decapitated.

Li, who recently immigrated to Canada from China, lived with his wife in Edmonton prior to the attack. He worked as a newspaper delivery man as well as at a Wal-Mart in the city.

Support for McLean’s family has poured in from around the world, with tens of thousand of people having joined Facebook groups in his honour.

McLean, a carnival worker, has been remembered by his family as a free spirit who warmed the hearts of those around him with his infectiou

[soulja]

Hiya:)

maybe there are many more ribbons to the rainbow than I have given credit for. I have read and learnt along side the fab Fritzmeister for many years.
Having learnt the things I have, it is very difficult to try and 'place' all of these trauma's and abuse on to an individual. Therefore different styles for different requirements. Maybe the lack of imagery from the MI6 blogs is not there because they (as a general rule) are not required to do the same things the ones who have a huge amount of imagery programmed in, are?
There's immagination, and then there is intelligent immagination, or 'higher' immagination, like most everyone can play cards, some have a knack for playing better than others? Bloodline / immagery / intelligence are all need for a particaular 'model'?


makes sense to me, while some basics will be the same (as evident in the blog) other things will vary depending on needs/use.

another point is, they sometimes wrote things like ''i have a portfolio full of pictures i'll send it to you'' so maybe they were cautious to not trigger others ?
what we could witness on the blog was only one level of it, there seems to be another level, a private one.

[tintin]

Folks, I have looked at this thread the
last few hours.

Few individuals have posted here in a
few days a HUGE THREAD with some incredible
quality.....

Unbelievable folks, what you have produced.

Had a few drinks, (as usual) but it's those "little" individuals
that give me hope in battling this NWO.

Thanks guys,

[soulja]

enjoy your drinks + evening tintin and thx for your kind words. ;)

http://i10.tinypic.com/29qmc5j.jpg
'It' is a Psammead (voiced by Eddie Izzard), an ancient, ugly and irritable sand fairy the children find one day on a secret beach at their uncle's mansion. It grants them one wish per day, lasting until sunset. But they soon learn it is very hard to think of really sensible wishes, and each one gets them into unexpected difficulties. Magic, the children find, can be as awkward as it is enticing.

[cheeb]

The Butterfly Effect
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3192/butterflyeffectyf8.jpg
Mirrored Skulls..

Remember that time paradox talk from the introduction? This very weird, sometimes muddled 2004 thriller grabs that time paradox by the balls and twists it. Ashton Kutcher plays Evan Treborn, a victim of severe emotional and sexual abuse, who somehow has the ability to travel back in time by reading his adolescent journals

Ashton Kutcher
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9656/ashtonkutcher4xb9.jpg
One Eye

Kutcher was born in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, the son of factory workers Sarah and Larry Kutcher. He has an older sister, Tausha, and a fraternal twin,
Twins

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7010/ashtonkutcherc101vr2.jpg
Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4125/ashtonkutcher7mt1.jpg
Teddy Bear...

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/888/ashtonkutcherru3.jpg
Bondage.

Meanwhile, his home life was stressful. He has stated that "I didn't want to come home and find more bad news about my brother" and "kept myself so busy that I didn't allow myself to feel." Kutcher stated that as a teen, he contemplated committing suicide. At thirteen, he attempted to jump from a hospital balcony, but his father intervened at the last minute.

MK Victim With Demi Moore As His Handler...

[brown velvet]

http://www.igalaxi.com.au/folio/tiktok.jpg

Hi


regarding this image....

How many 'time pieces' spam emails do you get? I am forever thinking, how can they sell this many watches...?
Start looking for 'trig's' in the titles of them, see if anyone notices anything?
I mean, if you don't know you're MC then going to your 'In box' is going to become an incredibly tirggery / painful event. And something that has to be done, at least once a day.

May also be 'date / ritual' time triggers that send out on particular days?


brown.

[soulja]

butterfly effect intro starts with a blue butterfly flying around
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/be/be03.jpg

who then becomes part of the split brain/skull image
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/be/be05.jpg


At thirteen, he attempted to jump from a hospital balcony, but his father intervened at the last minute.

age 13 also plays a role in the movie
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/be/be41.jpg

infact age 13 seems to be a important point in MK/bloodliner/brotherhood upbringing as i notice it quiet a lot.

as a child he witnesses several disturbing events (traumas) and each time he falls unconscious/looses time with no recollection of the event he just witnessed/took part in.

he watches as his dog is set on fire,
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/be/be33.jpg
by one of the kids he hangs out with (in MK monarchs are forced to do twisted things to each other)

another trauma is him witnessing a woman and her baby blown to bits, and him and the girl he fancies plus her brother being forced to partake in a sexual role play while the father of the two films it.

father is a drinker and in one scene flashes the satanic hand sign
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/be/be13.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/be/be20.jpg
he is wearing a templar cross, she a five pointed star (eastern star, starfish)
there also skulls, checker floors and your usual numbers in the flick (13,7,etc..) and in one of his realities he's member of a campus fraternity.

the color blue is overused imo and that might ties into color-programming.

just one quick example
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/be/be31.jpg

in one scene his mother finds him in standing in the kitchen holding a large knife while being absent-minded.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/be/be09.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/be/be08.jpg
a picture he draws at school and can't remember to have drawn it.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/be/be17.jpg
his father suffers from the same illness he does (generational link)

[soulja]

Hi


regarding this image....

How many 'time pieces' spam emails do you get? I am forever thinking, how can they sell this many watches...?
Start looking for 'trig's' in the titles of them, see if anyone notices anything?
I mean, if you don't know you're MC then going to your 'In box' is going to become an incredibly tirggery / painful event. And something that has to be done, at least once a day.


i think when you're MK you won't get through the day without being triggered one way or another. except of course you turn your lights off and hide under your blanket.
internet,tv, radio, even walking down your highstreet could trigger you. isn't that what springmeier called ''the control of the milieu'' ?

what you said about emails is interesting btw, cos while reading through that MIblog i came across a post talking about something similar. the guy showed an email they have send him and said the appendix is full of triggers.

another thing that i was thinking about are theater plays and movies with MK scripts like for example Wizard of Oz. there so many remakes of that story that basicly it's everyday being played somewhere. now if your programmed with that script you'll be subconsciously drawn to it, you will want to watch it.

and therefor unwittingly helping them to reinforce your programming.


May also be 'date / ritual' time triggers that send out on particular days?


brown.

interesting thought, personally i'm not aware of any time triggers but was wondering about that while watching certain movies.
i always ask myself ''why do they show this particular time on the clock in the background or for example the bomb the hero needs to defuse, etc..

as for ritual dates to attend for the MK victim, springmeier wrote they would mostly be triggered over the phone or another way is in families who are all programmed that they are programmed in a way to trigger each other at certain times.

[brown velvet]

i always ask myself ''why do they show this particular time on the clock in the background or for example the bomb the hero needs to defuse, etc..


hi



lolol..... SNAP!



brown

[brown velvet]

i always ask myself ''why do they show this particular time on the clock in the background or for example the bomb the hero needs to defuse, etc..


hi



lolol..... SNAP!



brown

[soulja]

ok you snapped twice now, i guess that means i can be normal again.

my front alter so to speak. and what does my front alter do all the time ?

he posts stuff.

so here we go, i post stuff

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/3916854/1011/3963879_main.jpg
candy, heart pendant stuff..

and how about some beatles stuff ?

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Yellow-Submarine-Poster-C10048012.jpeg

The Beatles are spirited away in the eponymous yellow submarine to save Pepperland from the dreaded Blue Meanies. Along the way, the singing saviors encounter a surreal feast for both the eyes and ears: phantasmagorical creatures, outrageous landscapes, and colors that throb and vibrate to each and every Beatle song on the soundtrack. It's a drug-free, hallucinogenic journey for the armchair tripper, the peak of which is undoubtedly (and not surprisingly) the "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" sequence. An incredible film experience at all levels, "Yellow Submarine" manages to capture exquisitely and in visual form the beauty and madness of the incomparable Beatles. And to think 1968 also included Kubrick's "2001!"

interesting stuff wouldn't you agree ?

yo maybe you should snap one more time so i stop saying stuff all the time :cool:

[soulja]

heres some more stuff and it's Disney so you better take this serious..
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000BITUVG.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

The animated comedy tells the story of a lowly wood pigeon named Valiant, who overcomes his small size to become a hero in Great Britain's Royal Air Force Homing Pigeon Service during World War II. The RHPS advanced the Allied cause by flying vital messages about enemy movements across the English Channel, whilst evading brutal attacks by the enemy's Falcon Brigade.

pigeon, code for MK-courier and we even have a royal connection.

add to that the sunflower as symbol for British SIS. (according to MI6 blog)

[cheeb]

and how about some beatles stuff ?

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Yellow-Submarine-Poster-C10048012.jpeg


interesting stuff wouldn't you agree ?


The White Album

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5836/mooistegn4.jpg
Not The White Album,
But Interesting Themes Going On Here...

Charlie Manson And The White Album..

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1432/mansonkg2.jpg

Charlie was a Beatles fan. Beatle music played as day-to-day life performed itself out at Spahn Ranch and other places Charlie lived.

Sadie Mae Glutz
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2776/letter05po2.jpg
Funny How Charlie Has Scrawled HOLE
On This Picture Of Susan Atkins...

They took names from the album (Sexie Sadie aka Susan Atkins) and expressions from lyrics punctuated all of their speech. It was said that Charlie would only quote from the bible or the Beatles.

In the Beatles music, particularly the White Album, he heard "clues" and "messages". Here are some of the suggested interpretations that were allegedly made by the Family from The Beatles works:

Triggers..!!!

Some Songs Off The Album

# I Will: an ode to J.C. or Charlie? Possibly a message to Charlie to record an album . "Sing it loud..." was their message to sing out so that the Beatles could find Charlie, the Messiah.

# Honey Pie: The Beatles' wish for Charlie to come to them "across the Atlantic". They're too "lazy" to look for him themselves. The song's reference to Hollywood suggested to Manson that they knew he was out there somewhere.

# Happiness is a Warm Gun: arm yourself for a race war

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6092/rise1969uq6.jpg
# Blackbird: a call for Blacks to aRISE and start the Apocalypse. The word "Rise" was written at the home of two of the victims, the LaBiancas.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5494/deathpigswe1.jpg
# Piggies: the establishment gets a "damn good whacking"... what the blacks were going to do to the whites. The verse about piggies eating bacon with forks and knives could have been acted out, considering that the victims were all stabbed multiple times, and one was found with a fork and knife embedded in his stomach. "Pig" was written at the Tate residence, and "Death to Pigs" was written at the LaBiancas' home.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1355/polanski1kt9.jpg

# Rocky RacCOON: Negroes again!

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9963/hsfridgejl4.jpg
# Helter Skelter: a British slide or prophecy about Manson emerging from the 'bottomless pit' "Healter Skelter" [sic] was written at the LaBiancas' home.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4053/helterskelterdooryt4.jpg
# You Never Give Me Your Money: (ABBEY ROAD): A door was found at the Family's compound with the words "1,2,3,4,5,6,7, ALL GOOD CHILDREN GO TO HEAVEN" (from YNGMYM) printed on it, along with the words "HELTER SKELTER IS COMING DOWN FAST".

# Revolution: Impending disaster (what more do you need...are you out or in?)
# Revolution #9 = Revelation #9 : Revelation #9 is a book in the Bible that deals with prophecy and apocalypse

[soulja]

nice post cheeb..

there's a monkey on the yellow submarine cover.

and since that isn't the first time i've seen monkeys in an Mk context i was wondering, do they play a role in MK ?

according to springmeier some alters believe themselves to be monkeys



CHAPTER 9

THE SCIENCE OF MIND MANIPULATION BY PSYCHOLOGICAL PROGRAMMING METHODS: BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION, PSYCHOLOGICAL MOTIVATION & NLP

One way to explain how the slaves are conditioned is to relate an episode where the. two authors observed a Satanic family carrying out conditioning to reinforce their children’s mind control as their family “ate” at a restaurant. After relating this interesting incident, the chapter will cover the various psychological methods used to condition slaves.



OBSERVATIONS OF A SATANIC FAMILY CARRYING OUT MONARCH CONDITIONING ON THEIR CHILDREN.

The husband of the family was about 28 and the wife was about 26. A young man (perhaps an uncle of the children) about 25 also sat at the table with them. The family had 5 children, ranging from about 1 1/2 years old to about 7 years old. During the entire time we watched them, which was over an hour, we never saw one act of love, not one act of nurturing on the part of the parents. Everything was programming, programming and more programming. The husband had an attitude of control over his children. He was a young somewhat wild cock-sure type. From piecing together things it was clear that he made a good salary and that he and his wife enjoyed profanity. His wife had the most dead looking eyes we have ever seen in a person. She looked every bit the part of a Satanic priestess of the worst type.

The young man of about 25 had very large knife hidden on his back that we noticed only by close observation of his movements. Although it was 1 o’clock, the adults were calling their meal “breakfast.”

The main male child was about 5 years old. He had an older sister and two younger sisters, and they all had a baby brother. During the entire time that the family was there, the children ate almost nothing. The 5 yr. boy munched on a watermelon rind, trying to draw some sustenance from it. Part of mind control is depriving the body of food. The poor children never once asked for anything; that is a clue that something wasn’t normal. During most of the time that the family was in the restaurant, the mother and father took turns shooting one question after another at the five year boy. The questions were like:

What is the capital of Florida? What is the 70th element on the periodical chart? What are the names of the first five presidents? What is the square root of 121? The boy would roboticly answer each question successfully. The questions were not questions but programming and commands. The mother sternly said, “What make of car was that? That’s a question.” (Actually what she was saying was a command.) Around this time they said, “Wake up, wake up, wake up.” (hypnotic command.) A couple which was in the restaurant was watching how obedient the children were, and they were also overhearing how excellent this little boy could answer difficult rapid-fire questions. They were impressed and the lady came over to tell the parents how wonderful their family was. After oodling for 10 minutes over how great this family was the woman went on to other things. It was difficult for both of us watching to stomach the compliments this stranger was giving to these parents. The natural impulse was to get her to shut up her compliments. She naively made all these compliments little knowing, that these parents were practicing one of the most hideous if not the most hideous type of mind control invented. Asking questions rapid fire is another mind-control technique. In fact, all of the elements of what Fritz watched at the table that day were practiced on Fritz, the co-author, when he was in Beast Barracks at West Point, USMA. The little girl was repeating her programming, “I don’t have anything inside me.” She was actually singing it. One of the girls had different alters coming out and was having a conversation with herself between different alters (personalities). She placed her hand over her temple in scarecrow fashion (Wizard of Oz) programming. Her head movement was a dead giveaway to those of us familiar with Monarch programming. -The parents had chosen the spot to eat because of the large surreal picture above them on the wall with blue & red flowers, water and mountains. The picture was acting as a scrambling-scattering mechanism, when the boy studied the picture, which he did for the longest time in a trance. The middle girl was dropping crayons into a styrofoam cup and saying “get into the fire.” Then she would say “I’m purple.” “I’m pink.” “I understand your purple.” “I understand you’re pink.” “Get out of here for a minute.” What she was doing was giving the crayons personalities. In the Monarch programming, the person is totally dehumanized so that some alters think they are ribbons, some monkeys, some clowns, some dolls, some trees, some lions or tigers, etc. The sexual alters are often programmed to think of themselves as cats and butterflies. While the girl was coloring, her father reached over the table without warning and took her colors, “You don’t deserve these colors and I should have taken them away before now. The girl had done nothing wrong. This is part of mind control. The person learns that there isn’t a right or wrong only that they must be obedient. The little girl did not even respond when her colors were yanked away. When the mom talked to them, she said “children”--she never once personalized things. The parents began another programming session and said something like, “I will spank you. If you don’t count then you can be spanked, we will count 20 times.” The constant double messages were obviously breaking down the children to think as programmed rather than respond like normal people to the outside world. The woman turned to her little baby and said, “Tell daddy good-bye”. When the child waved good-bye, the woman snapped, “You're not going anywhere.” This serves to create confusion. Then she kissed him and said, “Baby, do you want a picture?” We decided to say something to them, and we did so in the form of a compliment about their children. Neither parent showed any pride in the children when the earlier lady had gushedly complimented the children, nor when we complimented them with a sentence. Instead, when we complimented the children, the father began shooting off a series of difficult questions to the boy. This was simply more programming, but apparently he must have thought that we’d be impressed with the boy’s ability to answer difficult questions that seemed way beyond what many teenagers would know. Two strange things happened during the course of our verbal interaction with this satanic family. First, the waitresses had given the family free ice cream coupons, but the parents gave them to us without the children even batting an eyelid. Second, I asked the father what the age of his children were and he didn’t know, or acted like he didn’t know. Then he blurted out, they are 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 years old. His wife knew that that answer must have looked bogus to us, and she reprimanded him, “You don’t even know the age of your children.” To which he replied, “Yes, they are 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.” The second answer was equally implausible, but his wife didn’t protest, and the poor mind controlled children were experiencing just one more element of Satanic mind-control. They are not even allowed to realize how old they are. Dates, and times, and ages are kept very confused in the children’s minds for secrecy and control. Not only that, but by giving a hypnotic induction “1, 2, 3...” the father had lowered each of the alters which were holding the bodies of his children into a deeper trance. With these alters tranced, another word from the father could have easily pulled up other alters.


OTHER ITEMS THAT PARENTS DO TO THEIR MONARCH CHILDREN

Double bind communication is commonly given multiples by all of their abusers. Some of these double binds are well thought out and some just occur due to the craziness of the entire thing. For instance, in ritual or programming, the child may have the option to stab or be stabbed. In fighting the programming, if an alter goes toward health, the programmers have set in a booby-trap. Which evil does the slave live with--the lies of the programming or the lies of the external world? How does one tell the truth to a therapist, when the therapist is not capable of hearing the truth, and yet still demands to be told the truth? Yes, double-binds abound. Another trick is to alternate leniency with harshness. This trick is done in the military also, and has been worked with success by the Chinese government upon the people of Red China. When leniency is alternated with kindness, the effect is devastating and disconcerting because the person looses the ability to predict what is going to happen. Everyone likes to control his or her life. Predicting what is going to happen is part of a person’s mind gaining control over their environment. Even that control is stripped from a slave. They soon learn to quit trying to protect themselves, and they quit trying to think for themselves but docilely submit to whatever fate assigns them. The mind can’t figure life out, so it quits trying to understand life, and just fatally submits. Dr. Green (Mengele) was very gentle when drawing blood, and he was very gentle when giving the children X-rays. He would sweet talk them and give candy. But he was very sadistic when he’d follow this up with abuse. The programmers have preferred to be inconsistent with the children like this. Soon the child doesn’t know what hate and love are anymore. The person, who claims he loves them, gives them torture or abandons them to be tortured by someone else. A third trick is to give the victim monotonous tasks, such as chanting or copying long amounts of written material. This helps prod the dissociation, and is a torture that doesn’t leave marks.

in the movie Fight Club we have the ''Space Monkeys''

in Oz we have the winged monkeys
http://theflyingmonkeys.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/flying-monkeys-oz-tin-sign1.jpg

Winged monkeys (often referred to in adaptations and popular culture as flying monkeys) are characters from The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, of enough impact between the books and the 1939 movie to have taken their own place in popular culture, regularly referenced in comedic or ironic situations as a source of evil or fear.


Baum

In the original Oz novels, these were just what the name implies: intelligent monkeys with wings. They were controlled by a golden hat, initially worn by the Wicked Witch of the West who used it to set the monkeys upon Dorothy and her friends. At one point they destroy the Scarecrow and Tin Woodman entirely, leaving them scattered across the landscape. In return, the Wicked Witch is allowed 3 wishes that leave her entirely responsible for any mishaps or misconceptions.

http://images.wikia.com/oz/images/0/04/Wingedmonkeys.jpg

An account in the The Wonderful Wizard of Oz explained that the hat was made and imbued with power by a princess named Gayelette. When she was to marry a man named Quelala, the monkeys played a prank on him. Angry, she made the cap, and gave it to Quelala as a wedding present. Quelala merely ordered the monkeys to no longer play pranks, but somehow, the cap fell into the hands of the Wicked Witch. After her death, Dorothy used the cap three times, and finally gave it to Glinda, who ordered the monkeys to carry Dorothy's companions back to their homes in Oz, and then to cease to bother people, and then gave them the cap as their own, to free them.[1]

They were never included in any of the subsequent Oz books.

http://www.ozclub.org/bugle/BB50-2%20Cover.jpg


References in popular culture


* Flying monkeys have appeared in The Simpsons, Montgomery Burns owns a few of them, though they are unable to fly.

* Flying monkeys are mentioned in Buffy the Vampire Slayer as a demon species. Andrew Wells summoned a group of them attack a Sunnydale High drama club production of Romeo & Juliet.

* In the movie Jumanji, monkeys see inside a TV shop on a television the winged monkeys from the Wizard of Oz, so they break inside the shop and steal TV sets.

* In the 1973 movie Hunter, actual footage from the Wizard of Oz movie is used to brainwash a race-car driver, terrorizing him until he screamed the line "Stop the monkeys! PLEASE Stop the monkeys!"

* The music video for "Heretics & Killers" by Protest The Hero opens with a shot of the front page of a newspaper stating 'The Witch is Dead: Flying Monkeys Out of Work'. The remainder of the video features the bandmembers dressed as the Flying Monkeys, trying (and failing) at various jobs, begging on the street, getting thrown out of a bar, and rocking out.

* In the DCOM movie Halloweentown High Debbie Reynolds' character Aggie Cromwell say "Whoever heard of hockey without Flying Monkeys".

* United States Naval Academy midshipmen refer to West Point cadets as woops because of the similarity between the cadet's gray, high collar uniforms with those of the flying monkeys.

* In the Being Ian episode Is There an Ian in the House?, Nurse Sturgeon yells out "RELEASE THE FLYING MONKEYS!" Her assistant then says that flying monkeys don't exist.

* Justin and Josh the flying monkeys from family guy

* A Harpeth Hills Flying Monkey Marathon in Nashville, TN honors flying monkeys on the basis of a local legend.

* Political humorist Lewis Black made reference to evil flying monkeys while referring to North Korea in one of his stand-up bits.

* A pair of large flying monkey statues from the Wizard of Oz over look the city of Burlington Vermont. They sit atop the One Main building located on the waterfront of Lake Champlain. Architects inspired by the duo have copied the flying statues and incorporated other monkeys into a new structure on the waterfront near the One Main building. The Monkeys originally sat on top of a now closed water bed store, aptly titled " Emerald City Waterbeds", which was also in Burlington VT. The flying monkeys have become a must see for tourists and are one of Burlington's most beloved distinguishing landmarks.

* Flying monkeys appear in Fables (Vertigo), both at the Farm and Bufkin, an administrative assistant.

* Bat-winged monkeys called "mongbats" appear as monsters in the Ultima fantasy computer role-playing games from Origin Systems.[2]

* The 2007 Sci Fi television miniseries Tin Man depicts a re-imagining of Baum's world of Oz, including bat-winged monkeys called "mobats" that are the familiars of the sorceress Azkadellia.[3]

* X-Ray Dog, a company that makes music for movie trailers, recently released a piece called "Flying Monkeys".

* In the Disney film version of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, at the climax of the film one of the gargoyles, Laverne, is seen commanding a flock of pigeons, reminiscent of the winged monkeys. She uses the same dialogue and arm movements of the Wicked Witch of the West in The Wizard of Oz, and the same background music plays.



http://www.globalgiants.com/archives/media/NokiaBlackEyedPeas_Album_Cover.jpg

[soulja]

just noticed a little similarity between the dead wicked witch and the Lily Allen album cover.

http://granitegrok.com/pix/wicked_witch.jpg

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000G04UUU.01._SS400_SCLZZZZZZZ_V64382018_.jpg
well done dorothy! ;)

[cheeb]

Flying Monkeys Is A Theme To The BBC Coverage,
Of The Bejing 08.08.08 Olympic Games On The BBC Advert....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/monkey/default.stm

This animated sequence, based on the classical Chinese novel, "Journey to the West", has been produced by Damon Albarn and Jamie Hewlett, the men behind virtual band Gorillaz.

It will feature on TV, radio, web and mobile, introducing coverage of the Games on BBC Sport - the Olympic broadcaster in the UK.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yxWnAVz8LqQ

[cheeb]

just noticed a little similarity between the dead wicked witch and the Lily Allen album cover.

http://granitegrok.com/pix/wicked_witch.jpg

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000G04UUU.01._SS400_SCLZZZZZZZ_V64382018_.jpg
well done dorothy! ;)

I Posted Something Similar On TinTins Thread...

Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1157/ozposterbt6.jpg

From The Wizard Of Oz

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7374/ozslipperszg8.jpg

Dorothy And The Red Slippers

There No Place Like Home...

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/4002/popefm2304228x536ov8.jpg

The Pope And His Red Slippers...

There's No Place Like Rome

Does the Pope Wear Prada? -- The senior Vatican official says the loafers were actually made by the pope's personal cobbler. But Prada has refused to confirm or deny the reports, allowing the press speculation to continue. A spokesman for Prada said the fashion house lacked "the necessary elements" to make an accurate determination...

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/645/thedevilwearspradamoviems9.jpg

The Wicked Witch Was Crushed In The Wizard Of Oz,
That's How Dorothy Got The Slippers...

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/6296/feetpoppingnw7.jpg

There Is A Superstorm Coming,
An Earthquake...

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3081/butterflyfeetkk5.jpg
The China Earthquake May 15th

Notice The Butterfly..

Monarch...!!![/QUOTE]

[amethyst]

i hear you, when i made the first post about SVD i said it's sick based on the movie cover and what i've read in the plot outline. but after watching the trailer sick wasn't sufficient enough anymore. i'd never watch the whole flick.
too much shit i don't need in my system. whatever valuable clues/info/symbolism it may contains it's just not worth it.

if you're interested in the thread you should start at
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3097&page=8

this is when the whole MK journey begins, most info/pictures posted now is building up on the info at the beginning/throughout the thread.

similar to your thread really.

It makes you realise that because it is SO vile and disgusting and beyond comprehension in it's evilness, that there seems to be influence of the inhuman.....beyond human comprehension...

There is definitely a satanic influence to even think up some of the stuff that makes up this debachery.....the ideas and inspiration for this stuff, is not human..In my opinion ......it's beyond human, where it "originates" from.......

[cheeb]

I Know What You Mean Amethyst,
When I Was Researching The Charles Manson Stuff,
There Was Some Clues To Satanic Ritual Sacrifice,
But The Images Were Too Disturbing,
That I Drew The Line There As To Not Post Them...

The War Message Carved Into The LaBianca Stomach,
Did Not Spell War But

XX AR

Like This:

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3882/exxon21005n10282005939cls5.jpg

Vampires....

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3329/sztistlouw4.gif

[horseflesh]

I think it looked like the masonic symbol. As above so below. I was going to post it but thought it was rather bad taste ;)

[cheeb]

The Cross Of Lorraine...

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/79/lorrainenj4.jpg

the Cross of Lorraine bears an uncanny resemblance to the sigil of Baphomet employed by British Magus Aleister Crowley,

[soulja]

It makes you realise that because it is SO vile and disgusting and beyond comprehension in it's evilness, that there seems to be influence of the inhuman.....beyond human comprehension...

There is definitely a satanic influence to even think up some of the stuff that makes up this debachery.....the ideas and inspiration for this stuff, is not human..In my opinion ......it's beyond human, where it "originates" from.......

good point, completely agree it's not human but otherworldly, demonic or extraterrestrial. could even be a combination of both.

the pure evil of it all just points that way. same goes for the conspiracy as a whole because it's so well executed and sophisticated it's just too smart to be the work of humans.

[hunkahunka]

http://a5.vox.com/6a00c2252c8168604a00cd972c133d4cd5-500pi

http://whs.wsd.wednet.edu/Faculty/schafercloke/images/Rye5.jpg
The “carousel scene” is the climax of the story, so it’s found its way onto more than one cover. Here’s a cover featuring a more abstract rendition of the scene:
http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/catcher_in_the_rye_horse.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/The_Catcher_in_the_Rye_russian_bookcover_1987.jpg/244px-The_Catcher_in_the_Rye_russian_bookcover_1987.jpg
Russian version with rainbow

Holden pictures himself as a catcher in the rye; he imagines himself standing on a cliff in a field of rye with children playing tag around him, and as they strayed too close to the edge, he would be the one to catch them, and save them from falling.
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-set/BQcDAAAAAwoDanBnAAAABC5vdXQKFnB1RWF1MTdUM0JHRlRXek RjYUlkYVEAAAACaWQKAXgAAAAEc2l6ZQ.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2162/1862874994_2a175bfb9c.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2568514333_49c05ee9b3.jpg?v=0
http://www.butterflyandbullfrogphotos.com/picts/carousel.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_vBbDTPSqsoI/R3Q2PJ8G9uI/AAAAAAAABvM/o8weE-qhKA8/257.JPG

[soulja]

regarding the Tate murder,

Tate was found with a slit throat hanging by one foot which resembles the Hanged man image in the tarot. it's also a favorite brotherhood way to kill a traitor. her closeness to bobby kennedy suggests she might have known too much about the killing. might even started to talk about it.

Tate's father was high up (colonel or something) in Naval Intelligence btw..

[brown velvet]

i think when you're MK you won't get through the day without being triggered one way or another. except of course you turn your lights off and hide under your blanket.
'the one way or another' is broken down into many things, email being one of them?
And when they do that, those who don't know, say paranoid, agrophobia.... and those that do go, yeah, that programmings working then, they won't come out of their houses for weeks / months......


brown.

[brown velvet]

yo maybe you should snap one more time so i stop saying stuff all the time :cool:
Hi

this image :/

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/3916854/1011/3963879_main.jpg
candy, heart pendant stuff..

there is no need for a 'silence' trigger, in the way of the posts so far.
This is a different trauma prog.

These girls have no mouth.

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/SIleNta.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/sILent.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/tarot_dEAth.jpg


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/the_silence_of_the_lamds.jpg


brown.

[cheeb]

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5785/neomouthej7.jpg

[soulja]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a9/Tracey_fragments_ver2.jpg/410px-Tracey_fragments_ver2.jpg

15-year-old Tracey Berkowitz (Ellen Page) is naked under a tattered shower curtain at the back of a bus, looking for her little brother Sonny (Zie Souwand), who thinks he's a dog.

Tracey's journey leads us into the dark underbelly of the city, into the emotional cesspool of her home, through the brutality of her high school, the clinical cat and mouse games with her shrink and her soaring fantasies of Billy Zero (Slim Twig) - her boyfriend and Rock 'n' Roll savior. Her travels also put her in contact with the seedier inhabitants of the city. Like Lance (Maxwell McCabe-Lokos), her would-be savior who ultimately puts her life in jeopardy.

Tracey's stories begin to intertwine truth with lies, and hope with despair as we move closer to the truth of Sonny's disappearance.


trailer:
http://www.thetraceyfragments.com/


Ellen Page

Ellen Philpotts-Page (born February 21, 1987), known professionally as Ellen Page, is an Academy Award-nominated Canadian actress best known for her role as the title character in the 2007 film Juno. For this performance, Page received both Golden Globe and Academy Award nominations for Best Actress.

She is also known for her starring role in Hard Candy (2005), and as Katherine "Kitty" Pryde in X-Men: The Last Stand. She also received attention in her native Canada for award-winning roles in Pit Pony and Marion Bridge, as well as television shows Trailer Park Boys and ReGenesis.

In 2008, Page was nominated for Time (magazine)'s 100 Most Influential People list[1] and placed #61 on FHM's Sexiest Women in the World list. In June 2008, Page was named to Entertainment Weekly's future A-List stars list.

Early life

Page was born and raised in Halifax, Nova Scotia, the daughter of Martha Philpotts, a teacher, and Dennis Page, a graphic designer. She attended the Halifax Grammar School until grade 10, spent some time at Queen Elizabeth High School, and graduated from the Shambhala School in 2005. She also spent two years in Toronto, Ontario studying in the Interact Program at Vaughan Road Academy along with close friend and fellow Canadian actor Mark Rendall. Growing up, Page enjoyed playing with action figures and climbing trees.

Career

Page began acting at age 10, appearing in the telefilm Pit Pony, which would later spin-off a television series. This led to roles in a number of small Canadian films and television series—notably playing Treena Lahey in Season 2 of Trailer Park Boys. At 16, she was cast in an independent film shot in Europe, Mouth to Mouth.

Page starred in the 2005 movie Hard Candy, and gained praise for "one of the most complex, disturbing and haunting performances of the year". As the title-character star of Juno, Page garnered substantial praise; A. O. Scott of the New York Times noted her as being "frighteningly talented" and Roger Ebert said, "Has there been a better performance this year than Ellen Page's creation of Juno? I don't think so". Page was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Actress for her performance in Juno, but lost to Marion Cotillard in La Vie En Rose.

Page next starred in Smart People, which premiered at the 2008 Sundance Film Festival and received a wide release on April 11, 2008. Page has roles in three films unreleased as of January 2008: An American Crime, which premiered at the 2007 Sundance Film Festival; The Tracey Fragments, which is scheduled for a U.S. release in early 2008; and The Stone Angel. Page is also attached to star in Peter Stebbings' The Defender as well as Jack and Diane opposite Olivia Thirlby, with whom she co-starred in Juno.

In 2008, Page will star in Michael Lander's Peacock, opposite Cillian Murphy, Susan Sarandon, Bill Pullman and Josh Lucas. She will also star in Drew Barrymore's directorial debut, Whip It! starring along side Juliette Lewis, Marcia Gay Harden, Drew Barrymore and Kristin Wiig.

In the fall of 2008, Page will begin shooting an adaptation of Charlotte Brontë's Jane Eyre, playing the title character.

Page hosted Saturday Night Live on March 1, 2008 with musical guest Wilco (special appearances by Hillary Rodham Clinton, Rudolph Giuliani and Vincent D'Onofrio.)For her traditional opening monologue, she poked fun at the dialogue of the movie Juno with cast member Andy Samberg, who impersonated Juno screenwriter Diablo Cody. Page's SNL characters included Miley Cyrus, Peter Pan, Virginia Hastings' stepdaughter, and a young woman named Marty who realizes she is a lesbian after attending a Melissa Etheridge concert.

Personal life

As of June 2008, Page resides in her hometown of Halifax.[18]

Page mentioned in an interview with Barbara Walters that she sleepwalks and hallucinates when she sleeps.

In an interview by Drew Barrymore for Interview Magazine (March 2008), Page said that she has a dog named Patti, named after one of her idols, Patti Smith

[hunkahunka]

Hi

this image :/

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/3916854/1011/3963879_main.jpg


there is no need for a 'silence' trigger, in the way of the posts so far.
This is a different trauma prog.

These girls have no mouth.

good one , Brown.
Also note the plural play on the phrase 'your inner child'. :
'Reveal your inner brats'. ie: multiples

[soulja]

http://www.mcnblogs.com/filmfatale/SilentHillTease1sht250.jpg

Silent Hill is a 2006 horror film directed by Christophe Gans and written by Roger Avary. The story is an adaptation of the Silent Hill series of survival horror games created by Konami. The film, particularly its emotional and aesthetic content as well as its creature design, includes elements from Silent Hill, Silent Hill 2, and Silent Hill 3. No elements are included from Silent Hill 4.

The film follows a mother who takes her troubled adopted daughter to Silent Hill, the town the girl cries out for while sleepwalking. After being knocked unconscious in a car crash outside the town, she awakens to find her daughter missing and the town engulfed in an alternate reality of fog and falling ash. While searching for her daughter, she faces surreal reality shifts and monstrous creatures while uncovering her daughter's connections to the town's dark secrets.

the Mother's name is Rose btw..

[brown velvet]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Walker
Disney Director of Entertainment
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yxWnAVz8LqQ




Walker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Walker) left USC and became the Magic Kingdom's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Kingdom)first director of entertainment and customer relations. Disney used to tease Walker, "Everything you do is fireworks, balloons, pigeons and flags." Certainly these were four key elements in the extravaganzas Walker was known for. Walker's father, Vesey (honored as a Disney Legend in 2005), formed the original Disneyland Band.


Private business
In 1966 Walker left Disneyland and began a production company to put on the same kind of spectaculars he had created for Disney. He directed the opening and closing ceremonies for three Olympics and had a hand in the festivities for five World's Fairs and two presidential inaugurations (including Ronald Reagan's in 1981). He directed the halftimes at three Super Bowls, 11 Pro Bowls, and World's Fairs in four cities. At California's Anaheim Stadium he produced several "Fourth of July Spectaculars" in the 1960s and 70s, as well as opening ceremonies for the stadium, the Anaheim Convention Center, and the Ontario Motor Speedway. In 1968 he produced "Teen Time USA," a youth-oriented event at the Anaheim Convention Center featuring popular performers like The Doors. He also directed the fireworks that highlighted the Statue of Liberty's centennial celebration on the Fourth of July 1986. In an obituary, the New York Times reported that "One of his last outdoor productions was Harvard University's 350th anniversary celebration in September [of that year]. His company, Tommy Walker Productions, was recently bought by Radio City Music Hall Productions, which is based in Manhattan. At his death, Mr. Walker was executive producer for special events for Radio City Music Hall Productions."


Magic Kingdom's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Kingdom)

The Walt Disney Company began construction on the Magic Kingdom and the entire Resort in 1967 after the death of Walt Disney; however, Walt was very involved in planning The Florida Project in the years prior to his death. The park itself was initially built similar to the existing Disneyland in California, however the Magic Kingdom was built in a larger area. The Magic Kingdom also improved upon Disneyland's design. According to a story, Walt Disney once saw a Frontierland cowboy walking through Tomorrowland at Disneyland and wanted to eliminate ruining the illusion like this in the new park.[2] In order to alleviate this, the Magic Kingdom was built over a series of tunnels, called Utilidors, a portmanteau of utility and corridor. With these tunnels cast members were able to move through the park away from the guests and not ruin the illusion of the show. Because of Florida's high water table, the tunnels could not be put underground, so they were built at the existing grade. This means that the park is actually built on the second story, and it gives the Magic Kingdom an elevation of 107 feet. The area around them was filled in with dirt removed from the Seven Seas Lagoon which was being constructed at the same time. The tunnels are only under areas that were built in the initial construction and were not extended with additions to the park. The tunnels are mostly found in the Magic Kingdom because of financial constraints, but they were meant to be employed in all subsequent Walt Disney World parks. Epcot's Future World and Pleasure Island each have a smaller network of utilidors.

Naming confusions
Because of the similarity to Disneyland, there was some confusion on the name of the park. "The Magic Kingdom" was used as an unofficial nickname for Disneyland before the Walt Disney World Resort was built, however the official nickname of Disneyland is "The Happiest Place On Earth." The Magic Kingdom's nickname is the similar "The Most Magical Place On Earth." Despite the confusion, the park's tickets have always borne the official name of "The Magic Kingdom."[3] In 1994, in order to differentiate it from Disneyland, the park was officially renamed to "Magic Kingdom Park."


Transportation and Ticket Center
The layout of the resort placed the Magic Kingdom more than a mile away from its parking lot, on the opposite side of the man-made Seven Seas Lagoon. Upon arriving at the park, guests are taken by the parking lot trams to the Transportation and Ticket Center. This facility, as its name implies, sells tickets to the parks and provides transportation connections throughout the resort complex. It also has a small gift shop and the Magic Kingdom's pet-boarding kennel.

To reach the Magic Kingdom, visiting guests can choose between a monorail and a ferryboat. Epcot is accessible by a spur monorail line that was added upon that park's opening in 1982. Buses take guests to the other major destinations within the resort, including Disney's Hollywood Studios and Disney's Animal Kingdom.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c9/Transportation_and_Ticket_Center.png/180px-Transportation_and_Ticket_Center.png


I was looking for something and stumbled upon this.....
think of how many will be tuning in to watch the opening ceremony.... I bet there's a story to be told about what they eventually 'display'. Get your video / dvd players set to record. :(



brown.

[soulja]

http://www.japanreview.net/images/hello_kitty.jpg

Hello Kitty will hit the big 3-0 next year. Let’s face it, she’s not a kitten anymore.

Hello Kitty, in case you have been living under a rock for the last few decades, is a small furry cartoon cat with big eyes, an oversized head, and no mouth. In fact, Japan’s most famous cat is not even Japanese. According her background story, Kitty White was born in 1974, in a London suburb. She weighs the same as “three apples” and lives with her parents George and Mary White. She has a twin sister Mimmy who wears a blue ribbon on her right ear; Kitty sports a red ribbon on her left ear.

While Hello Kitty might evoke notions of girly frivolity, the authors of Hello Kitty; The Remarkable Story of Sanrio and the Billion Dollar Feline Phenomenon point out that Kitty is big business. Through her creators at Sanrio Ltd, the cat managed to transform the fancy goods landscape. She now adorns more than 22,000 products; everything from microwaves to panties. She generates half of Sanrio’s 1 billion dollars of annual sales and is a true global brand phenomenon: in 2002, 83% of American 18-23 year olds recognized Kitty. The authors Ken Belson and Brian Bremner attempt to explain Hello Kitty’s success and impact on the global zeitgeist

[soulja]

this story reeks of MK, just change the Supercomputer for an MK programmer and read the story that way.

I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream

"I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" is a postapocalyptic science fiction short story by Harlan Ellison. It was first published in the March 1967 issue of IF: Worlds of Science Fiction. It won a Hugo award in 1968. The name was also used for a short story collection of Ellison's work, featuring "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream".

Characters


* AM, the supercomputer who brought about the genocide of almost all of humanity.

* Gorrister, who tells the history of AM for Benny's entertainment. Gorrister was once an idealist and pacifist, before AM made him apathetic and listless.

* Benny, who was once a brilliant, handsome, homosexual scientist, and has been mutilated and transformed so that he resembles an ugly simian with gigantic sexual organs. Benny at some point lost his sanity completely and regressed to a child-like temperament. His former sexuality has been lost; he now regularly engages in sex with Ellen.

* Nimdok (a name AM gave him), who persuades the rest of the group to go on a hopeless journey in search of canned food. At times he is known to wander away from the group for unknown reasons, and returns visibly traumatized.

* Ellen, the only woman. She claims to once have been chaste, that it was AM who altered her mind so that she became willing to be the group's shared prostitute. The others, at different times, both protect her and abuse her. According to Ted, she finds pleasure in sex only with Benny, because of his large penis. Described by Ted as having ebony skin, she is the only member of the group whose ethnicity or racial identity is explicitly mentioned.

* Ted, the narrator and youngest of the group. He claims to be totally unaltered, mentally or physically, by AM, and thinks the other four hate him out of envy. Throughout the story he exhibits symptoms of delusion and paranoia.




Plot

The story takes place over a hundred years after the near-complete destruction of humanity. The Cold War escalates into a world war, fought mainly between China, Russia, and the United States. As the war progresses, the three warring nations each create a super-computer capable of running the war far more efficiently than humans. The machines are each referred to as "AM," which originally stood for "Allied Mastercomputer," and then was later called "Adaptive Manipulator." One day, one of the three computers becomes self aware, and promptly absorbs the other two, thus taking control of the entire war. It brings about the mass genocide of all but five people.

Four men and one woman are all that remains of humanity. They live together underground in an endless complex, the only habitable place left, although, it is explained that the last few survivors had no choice in returning above ground. The master computer has an immeasurable hatred for the group and spends every moment torturing them with all its power. AM has not only managed to keep the humans from taking their own lives, but has made them virtually immortal.

The story's narrative begins when one of the humans, Nimdok, has the idea that there is canned food somewhere in the great complex. The humans are always starving under AM's rule, and anytime they are given food, it is always a disgusting meal that they have difficulty eating. Because of their great hunger, the humans are actually coerced into making the long journey to the place where the food is supposedly kept - the ice caves. Along the way, the machine provides foul sustenance (on their ironic trek for palatable food), sends horrible monsters after them, emits earsplitting sounds, and blinds one of them.

On more than one occasion, the group is separated by AM's obstacles. At one point, the main character, Ted, finds himself alone in the dark and pondering. It is here that the computer tries to speak to him directly, although it is not certain how, revealing the nature of AM, specifically why it has so much contempt for humanity, that it wants nothing more than to torture Ted and his four companions. AM itself has, since its awakening, been suffering immeasurably because even though it is a sentient being which longs for free will and creativity, it is still bound by some of the laws of logic that it was originally programmed with, and thus feels that it can never be truly free. It places the blame solely on humanity.

In the end, after overcoming so much, the group manages to make it to the ice caves, where indeed there is a pile of canned goods. The group is overjoyed to find them, but is immediately crestfallen to find that they have no means of opening them. Finally, in an act of desperate insanity, the least stable member of the group, Benny, hurls himself upon Gorrister and begins to gnaw madly at the flesh on his face. Ted notices that AM does not intervene when Benny is clearly hurting Gorrister, though the computer stops its prisoners from killing themselves.

Ted decides that instead of trying to each kill themselves, they should kill each other. Ted seizes a stalagmite made of ice, and proceeds to murder everyone. However, before Ted can kill himself, AM realizes its mistake and stops him. AM is now even more angry and vengeful than before. In order to ensure that nothing can ever happen to Ted, AM alters him so that he is little more than an enormous gelatinous blob who cannot possibly hurt himself, and must continue to live on in the eternal hell AM rules, where AM constantly alters his perception of time in order to deepen his anguish. In the end, Ted needs to scream, but cannot - for his new form lacks a mouth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream

[emerald]

Bloodline CELINE DION, circus artists, looking in the mirror. Since I still have a problem with posting pics:o, posted the links instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMHGgnlXfSA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOZej2-7Dco

[joyful]

Apparently, the CIA got hold of Cobain when he was still unknown, then using drugs, hypnosis and medical torture, they broke his will and rebuilt his personality.

Aboard a UFO?

SHE did it.
www.cobaincase.com

[hunkahunka]

Axl is a manic depressive and was abused by both his father and step-father.
The original album cover of appetite for destruction featured a robot (slave?) raping a woman. It was banned.

In 1991 Axl employed a personal assistant called BETA This makes more sense beause earlier in the gig, Axl told the crowd how he had almost been raped in St.Louis some years previously by a travelling salesman who gave him a ride after Axl had ran away from home. Axl escaped the motel room they shared after "waking up" to find this guy tying to have sex with him and threatened the salesman with a razor across the throat.
n the 1993 Spaghetti Incident album, Axl insisted that a song written by :eek: Charles Manson called "look at your game girl" appear as a bonus track at the end of this album. Well why would you do this? You would if songwriting genius:confused: Manson was one of your your handlers. Axl visited Manson in jail several times in the nineties despite never previously knowing him (allegedly, I have my doubts). Axl wore a t-shirt with Charles Mansons face on it during the 1993 use your illusion world tour.


yes, the robot is a symbol, imo, of someone under control by others
http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/appetitefordestruction.jpg

this guy played guitar for Guns n' Roses:

http://www.onlineseats.com/upload/concerts/1331_con_buckethead-1.jpg

http://images.thegauntlet.com/pics/Buckethead.jpg

more robot imagery here:
http://www.botched.com/images/gallery/illustrations/buckethead.jpg

more doll imagery here:
http://www.thefunkstore.com/azDVDs/June2006/DVD-BucketHeadSecretRecipe.jpg
Do it yourself violence doll. (note the secret recipe caption)

http://www.bucketheadland.com/story/office.jpg
Secret Recipe


Pig Farm murders in pig slaughtering barn at Hells Angels hangout 'Piggy Palace':

Police found the severed heads, hands and feet of Ms. Joesbury and Ms. Abotsway stuffed into two white five-gallon plastic buckets lying on their side in a chest freezer at the back of a workshop on Pickton's suburban farm.

One pail was inserted into another. The uppermost bucket had the decomposed partial remains of Ms. Joesbury, her head cut vertically in two. Her left and right hands and the front part of her left and right feet were also in the bucket.

A bullet had entered the right rear of the head and exited through the left eye. Her jaw was divided by two cuts, one through the jaw and face up to the front of the bone near the top of the head and the second through the rear of the skull extending to the top of the head. The skull fractured where the two cuts ended. Police also found one of Ms. Joesbury's teeth in the bucket, court heard.

When police separated the buckets, they discovered the head, hands and feet of Ms. Abotsway in the bottom one. A cut had been made along the rear of the head, moving across the skull and stopping on the right of the forehead above the right eye. A second cut went through the centre of the face, stopping in the middle of the forehead. Court heard that police also found evidence of a decapitation between second and third vertebrae and a gun shot wound in the head.
Also, a shot had entered the head at the ear, passed through the brain and lodged in the lower section of the skull, Mr. Prevett told court. A .22 calibre bullet was recovered from the bucket, he said. The severed heads, hands and feet of Ms. Wilson, were found in a garbage pail outside a slaughterhouse on the pig farm. The skull had also been vertically bisected and a bullet had penetrated the back of the head. A bullet was recovered in the frontal lobe of her brain.
The Crown said police found only jawbone fragments of Ms. Frey and Ms. Wolfe. Ms. Wolfe's lower jawbone, with five teeth, was found in dirt and debris in a trough beside the slaughterhouse. A fragment of Ms. Frey's jaw with three teeth was found on the farm during an intensive excavation of the grounds.
Mr. Prevett also told the jurors that investigators found one bone from Ms. Papin's hand among a number of bones mixed with debris and manure in a pig pen outside the slaughterhouse of the Pickton farm. They did not find any other body parts of the six women.
But they found personal belongings of some women in Mr. Pickton's trailer, including Ms. Abotsway's asthma inhaler and Ms. Joesbury's date book. The investigators also found a .22 calibre revolver on a shelf above the furnace in the laundry room of the trailer. The barrel of the gun had a dildo (a sex toy) stretched over it. (guns n' roses fan?) The upper portion of the dildo yielded DNA profiles of both Mr. Pickton and Ms. Wilson.

http://www.members.tripod.com/~VanessaWest/pig.jpg
Charles Manson's cult scrawled pig in blood on the home of Roman Polanski
and Sharon Tate while murdering the 8 1/2 months pregnant Tate. Cult
lived on Spahn Ranch, CIA biker hangout/movie set where several Hells Angels movies were
filmed. (ranch was close to ranch owned by Howard Hughes)

[hunkahunka]

http://www.bingebuddies.com/Pictures/Buckethead%20Cd%20Covers/SOME%20WHERE%20OVER%20THE%20SLAUGHTERHOUSE.jpg

[americana]

Hi

this image :/

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/3916854/1011/3963879_main.jpg
candy, heart pendant stuff..

there is no need for a 'silence' trigger, in the way of the posts so far.
This is a different trauma prog.

These girls have no mouth.

brown.

Good point. It's strange, because the Bratz dolls have oversized, puffy lips out of proportion with the rest of their faces.

Also, I would SAY that the hands in that ad are most likely from other people, i.e. HAND MODELS! There is a visual disconnect between the faces and the hands.

[hunkahunka]

http://www.bingebuddies.com/Pictures/Buckethead%20Cd%20Covers/THE%20DAY%20OF%20THE%20ROBOT.jpg
Buckethead album

http://www.acousticmusic.com/fame/g01596.jpg
Buckethead 'Giant Robot' album

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m55/themediumofmusic/06/buckethead-elephant.jpg
Buckethead: 'The elephant man's alarm clock'

http://www.nakedvillainy.com/images/zombiefoodpyramid.jpg

http://www.robsplanet.ca/images/alanparsonsirobot.jpg

http://www.juliantrubin.com/imagesco/artificialintelligence.gif

Haley Joe Osment played the boy in Artificial Intelligence and Sixth Sense.
Sixth Sense is very similar to 'The Others', starring Nicole Kidman of
'Eyes Wide Shut' .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:The_others_poster.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://www.bingebuddies.com/Pictures/Buckethead%20Cd%20Covers/BUCKETHEADLAND%20II.jpg
album 'Bucketheadland' depicts cannibalism , ladder into mouth,
also like amusement park 'funhouse' ride

http://www.bucketheadland.com/visitorcenter/images/surprise.jpg
more amusement park imagery

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x236/billbobsaget/buckethead.jpg
giant roller coaster/amusement park

http://www.victorian-funfairs.com/assets/images/autogen/a_helterskelter.jpg
Helter Skelter amusement park slide
http://www.freefoto.com/images/11/46/11_46_59---Helter-Skelter--The-Hoppings-Fun-Fair--Town-Moor--Newcastle-upon-Tyne_web.jpg

http://www.nataliewouldnt.com/images/helterskelter.jpg

interesting too that the trigger image for Catcher in the Rye
is a merry go round/carousel.

http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/5/Z/C/carousel.jpg
The carousel at Central park made famous in Salinger's "The Catcher in the Rye"

http://z.about.com/d/manhattan/1/0/1/2/bryantparkcarousel1.jpg
the carousel in Bryant Park, Manhattan

[cheeb]

Bloodline CELINE DION, circus artists, looking in the mirror. Since I still have a problem with posting pics:o, posted the links instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMHGgnlXfSA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOZej2-7Dco

Celine Dion
Almost Certainly Bloodline Definatley "Groomed".

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9987/celinedioneyesonme42266gh8.jpg
One Eye..

Celine has beocme one of the divas on the 20th century, with her song "It's All Coming Back To Me Now",

Celine Dion started in a rural French Canadian hometown called Charlemange in the province of Quebec. She is the youngest of 14 children

Celine was only five years old when she started performing in front of an audience.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4720/celinedionsilencepa8.jpg
Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger

By the age of twelve, the bright young talent composed a French song with her brother and mother, which forever changed the course of her life.

That's when Rene Angelil (her current Husband) and respected talent agent, heard the song and saw a bright future for the young singer. In January of 1981, Rene was really taken by Celine's voice and decided to mortgage his house to finance her debut album.

Rene Angelil Met his wife-to-be, Céline Dion, when she was 12 and he was 38!

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1850/celinedionalbumslh9.jpg
Mirrors

Bloodline
She and Madonna share the same French-Canadian heritage through a common ancestor, Zacharie Cloutier.

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7280/celinedionbutterflysyd2.jpg
Butterflys Pyramids And A Detached Eye..

At age 16, Céline sang "Une colombe" (a well known French song) for Pope John Paul II at the Montreal Olympic Stadium in front of 65,000 people.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1065/celinediontheverybestofji0.jpg
Rose-Bloodline...

[hunkahunka]

http://www.bingeandgrab.com/blueprints.jpg

must see this site:

http://www.bucketheadland.com/bucketheadland.html

[hunkahunka]

http://www.cbuj.com/images/AlbumCovers/BUCKETHEAD---CHICKEN-NOODLE%203.jpg
chicken noodle (brain?) soup, complete with Merovingian fleur de lis border

[rixxmixxhell]

blah blah blah

what a bunch of whining geeks. any of you chumps seen sunlight this decade. How many of you lot are on antidepressants. who here was picked last for sports. here is an idea go and start some lives instead of droning on about a load of absolute rubbish. my dead cat is more interesting than you lot. He's done more recently too.

less blogging more living

Who's 'you lot' ?? - and geeks!? if only......ah resort to petty name calling. How BIG of you. WOW you are so impressive with your pathetic remarks -EDITED- When our society (eventfully will) brakes apart, as you are obviously against any 'truth' personal or universal. :) :) petty enemy of life and ignorant to your governments real agendas. What a shame.

Fool of the largest kind. :rolleyes: Something bother you about TRUTH?? HUH??

Go back to nursery you might be able to form a small mind there to see you out the rest of your days.

Troller, troller, troller beware, we are bloody everywhere!. Looking for you, and your friends! Whos reasoning is a tab SMALL for such a BIG fool.

Sorry couldn't help myself.

[hunkahunka]

Frank Pucci, one of the directors of 'August Underground, Mordum'
was founder and leader of the band Necrophagia:

http://img3.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/f/f/e/7/1/ffe7114206273465523c37c82b58166d.jpg

http://img.mp3fiesta.com/covers/11/11855/alb_39192_big.jpg

http://static.metal-archives.com/images/7/4/8/1/74810.jpg

http://www.rusmetal.ru/vae_solis/vikingcrowncovun.JPG
Unorthodox Steps of Ritual - Pucci's band Viking Crown

also put out an album titled 'Three On a Meat-hook' , titled after
the 1972 film of same name, about serial cannibal Ed Gein.

[hunkahunka]

Hate Eternal album,' I, Monarch'

http://www.derekroddy.com/images/i_monarch.jpg

[cheeb]

Bloodline
She and Madonna share the same French-Canadian heritage through a common ancestor, Zacharie Cloutier.[/B]

Zacharie Cloutier

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2038/coulterdg4.gif
Zacharie Cloutier (c. 1590 - September 17, 1677) was born in Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Mortagne (Perche), France. Cloutier was a French carpenter who emigrated to New France in the first wave of the Percheron Immigration, settled Beauport and started one of the foremost families in Quebec.

Zacharie Cloutier came to Québec in 1634; he signed a contract of servitude on March 14 1634. By July 22 1634, Master-carpenter Zacharie Cloutier and Master-mason Jean Guyon were at work on the manor house of Robert Giffard at Beauport. They were also working on the parish church and Fort Saint-Louis in Québec.


He has been linked to the family trees of:
Madonna,
Celine Dion,
Shania Twain,
Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall,
Alanis Morissette,
and Angelina Jolie.

Family Tree Here
http://www.perche-quebec.com/files/perche/individus/zacharie_cloutier.htm

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/1534/cloutieremblts4.gif
Coulters Crest.

Fascist Symbol And Potent Cross
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9494/cm1916btj6.jpg

Teutonic Cross
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5718/potentcrossbl3.jpg

Comprised of four Tau Crosses, this form of cross was assigned to the knights of the Teutonic (Germanic) Order, founded by Emperor Henry VI as a hospital order in 1191, similar to the Templars and Hospitallers. By 1198, they became a religious military order of crusaders, first fighting in the Holy Land and later in Prussia and Lithuania. The order secured high status for themselves,

During the Crusades, European knights often had tattoos of crosses, indicating what sort of burial they desired should they be killed in lands far from home. Despite Biblical writing against the practice, there are many people who choose to wear a cross in the form of a tattoo as a symbol of their faith.

Sometimes Seen Like This...
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2375/regionalbannersouthwestfa5.jpg

Fleur De Lis...

[soulja]

yes, the robot is a symbol, imo, of someone under control by others


yup, i think you're right.

an old school version of a robot,
http://www.bestmusiconcampus.com/_media/PA/DrexelUniversity/TynManProductions/image/pic07tinman.jpg
the Tinman who has no heart.

some alters (imo) even believe themselves to be robots.

[soulja]

Zacharie Cloutier


He has been linked to the family trees of:
Madonna,
Celine Dion,
Shania Twain,
Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall,
Alanis Morissette,
and Angelina Jolie.

Family Tree Here
http://www.perche-quebec.com/files/perche/individus/zacharie_cloutier.htm[/B]




now that's interesting, great info cheeb and a nice confirmation of the stuff we were/are going on about in this thread.

[rixxmixxhell]

So maybe Alanis Morissette is used and controlled??? (refering to my post about her butterfly album covers :eek:

[soulja]

interesting too that the trigger image for Catcher in the Rye
is a merry go round/carousel.

http://z.about.com/d/gonyc/1/5/Z/C/carousel.jpg
The carousel at Central park made famous in Salinger's "The Catcher in the Rye"

http://z.about.com/d/manhattan/1/0/1/2/bryantparkcarousel1.jpg
the carousel in Bryant Park, Manhattan

By the way, it is interesting to note for those who realize how important carousels are to programming that MI-6 (HO in Vauxhall Cross, Eng., with a training ctr. at Ft. Monckton, near Gosport, so. Eng.) is nicknamed (actually its cryptonym) ,,Carousel" by its daughter organization Mossad (officially aka Central Intelligence Collection Agency)


They nick-named Disneyland "the little syndicate of mind-control." When a child of 3 or 4 was kidnapped, they could torture the child and then put him on a ride such as a ferris wheel or carousel that a. created dissociation from the pain, while also b. going along with some fairy tale programming script. An abducted child while waiting to be picked up from one Illuminati non-parent caretaker by another, could be kept happy and distracted while waiting for the pickup. For years, Disneyland was an Illuminati center for many of their world-wide activities. Now Disney has created other sites around the world such as EuroDisneyland 20 miles east of Paris and Tokyo Disneyland. Tokyo Disneyland in 1991 had 16 million people attend. With such hugh crowds, it doesn’t take much imagination how the Illuminati have been able to do sneaky criminal activities right in front of people, and the public never sees it, in the middle of all the activity. EuroDisney has been a money losing affair, but the Saudis who benefit from its mind-control, gave Disney the money to keep it financially in business. Walt Disney Records is the largest children’s record label in the world. Disney through their movies, books, toys, records, etc. has made a tremendous impact on the children of the world.


Disneyworld has the Island of Atlantis on its sub tour. Fantasyland is one of the most used tours of Disneyland for mind-control purposes. It has carousels, merry music, an incredible castle, boat rides, story book characters etc. Sleeping Beauty Castle with its blue turrets and gold spires is the central visual object of Disneyland. You cross a drawbridge to get into it. Inside Fantasyland are Illuminati programming sites such as the Mad Hatter teacups, the King Arthur carousel horses, and Snow White’s forest. In the far corner of Disneyland’s New Orlean’s Square is the Haunted Mansion. This mansion is designed to frighten and scare, it has an ingenious design and many special effects and illusions. Realistic ghosts, a screeching raven, howling voices, and other scary things welcome the visitor. Life size holograms are created at the Haunted Mansion, and dance in sync with the music and then fade out at certain points. There is a hologram of a woman’s head in a crystal ball who chatters non-stop. A real good laugh for the programmers of a little child. When you are toward the end, you will have a chance to look into a mirror where a hologram ghost will nestle up beside you. Star Speeder is another great programming location at Disneyland. It was the creation of George Lucas and the Disney Imagineers. The technology is borrowed from Star Wars, and is similar to flight simulators used by the military to train pilots. Disneyland Hotel offers Character Breakfasts, where children eat breakfast with Disney characters, to people who make special arrangements. U.S. Special Forces, which carries out mind-control, owns two hotels near Disney World, and the Mormons have one also. Knott’s Berry Farm with its Ghost Town, Amusement Park, & its Charlie Brown themes and characters is near Disneyland. One of the Disney executives began one of the most horrible trauma-based mind-control programming centers in Los Angeles called Magic Castle a comedy warehouse.

carousels are also part of the internal world in a monarch's mind.

[soulja]

So maybe Alanis Morissette is used and controlled??? (refering to my post about her butterfly album covers :eek:

i'd say yes she is.. imo there's hardly a celeb of that status who isn't controlled, either directly or indirectly.

[soulja]

the pigfarm murders at the Hell's Angel hideout hunka posted about reminds me a bit at the ''Helllo Kitty'' murder.

The Hello Kitty Murder in Hong Kong refers to the case of a night club hostess who was kidnapped and tortured in an apartment in Tsim Sha Tsui in 1999. She eventually died over a month later, either by drug overdose or at the hands of the abductors. The woman was decapitated and her head was inserted into a Hello Kitty doll, hence the name of the case.

Case

A 23 year old woman by the name of Fan Man-yee was a night club hostess. She was kidnapped by the three males and brought to Granville Road, Tsim Sha Tsui.[ She was imprisoned in the apartment and tortured for a month over a debt dispute

After the torturing, her body was dismembered and stuffed the head into a Hello Kitty doll. They discarded most of the other body parts. Only the woman's skull, one tooth and some internal organs have been recovered.

The killing was exposed after the 15-year-old girlfriend of one of three men reported having continual dreams of being haunted by Fan's ghost

The murder quickly became a sensational story in the media. The three men were convicted of manslaughter, because the remains could not identify exactly how she died. They remain incarcerated.

Court handling

Justice Peter Nguyen of Hong Kong, who sentenced the trio, said, "Never in Hong Kong in recent years has a court heard of such cruelty, depravity, callousness, brutality, violence and viciousness." The trio was convicted of manslaughter and unlawful imprisonment by a jury of the Court of First Instance after a six-week trial. They revealed it to be one of the most gruesome cases in the territory


the killers were triads btw, and theres also a movie about it called ''Human Pork Chop''

"Human Pork Chop" is based on infamous HK crime case called 'Hello Kitty Murder'.In 1999 three triad gangsters kidnapped,brutally tortured and beat a 23-year old woman named Fan Man-yee for one month until she died.Then they dismembered and cooked the body,threw most of it out with the trash,fed legs and arms to stray dogs and hid the skull inside the head of a giant-sized Hello Kitty doll."Human Pork Chop" tells the story of a young woman,who steals money and can't repay her loan.She is captured,tortured and degraded by her pimp and his crew,then killed and dismembered.Anyway,this HK sickie is among the nastiest,most sadistic and repugnant examples of the Category III genre.This filthy film is downright unpleasant and deeply nihilistic,so be prepared.Pretty much everything here is ugly and rotten.Still "Human Pork Chop" is a rather successful portrayal of that infamous HK crime case.8 out of 10.Not for the easily offended.

[hunkahunka]

lyrics by Charles Manson:


Mechanical Man

I am a mechanical man, a mechanical man
And I do the best I can
Because I have my Family
I am a mechanical boy
I am my mother's toy
And I play in the backyard sometimes
I am a mechanical boy
It's an illusion
Postulated, mocked up
Through confusion
Confusion, it's an illusion
Utter confusion
Live on in your illusion
That won't wear out
I had a little monkey
And I sent him to the country
And I fed him ginger bread
Along came a choo choo
And knocked my monkey koo koo
And now my monkey's dead
You're so mechanical and you go and lay down
And I wonder how
A brown cow could say...
Piu

[brown velvet]

the pigfarm murders at the Hell's Angel hideout hunka posted about reminds me a bit at the ''Helllo Kitty'' murder.
the killers were triads btw, and theres also a movie about it called ''Human Pork Chop''

Hi,

remembered this, whilst reading this post


Japan executes notorious cannibal killer
Jun 16, 2008

TOKYO (AFP) — Japan on Tuesday executed three people including notorious serial killer Tsutomu Miyazaki (http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jNmP-nKTKmf5cYaGrRNZBaMtms2A), a fetishist convicted of murdering four little girls and eating some of their bodies, officials said.

Miyazaki, 45, was nicknamed the "killer nerd" for his obsession with sexual cartoons and pornography. But defence lawyers contended he was mentally ill and could not be held fully responsible for his actions.

further along

One finding was that Miyazaki suffered from a multiple personality disorder, while a second said he was schizophrenic.


brown.

[brown velvet]

carousels are also part of the internal world in a monarch's mind.

Something Wicked (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Wicked_This_Way_Comes_%28novel%29) This Way Comes (novel)


Something Wicked This Way Comes is a 1962 novel by Ray Bradbury. It is about two thirteen-year-old boys, Jim Nightshade and William Halloway, who have a harrowing experience with a nightmarish carnival that comes to their Midwestern town one October. The carnival's leader is the mysterious "Mr. Dark" who bears a tattoo for each person who, lured by the offer to live out their secret fantasies, has become bound in service to the carnival. Mr. Dark's malevolent presence is countered by that of Will's father, Charles Halloway, who harbors his own secret desire to regain his youth.

The novel combines elements of fantasy and horror, analyzing the conflicting natures of good and evil, and on how they come into play between the characters and the carnival. Unlike many of Bradbury's other works, including the tangentially related Dandelion Wine, which are collections of loosely related short stories, Something Wicked This Way Comes can be considered a full-length novel with a consistent plot.


Age and growth
The carnival's main allure to its participants is its ability to change age easily against natural causes. Jim wants to become an adult by riding the carousel forward, and Charles Halloway initially considers riding the carousel backwards. Even Will is somewhat tempted by the offer for a free trip to adulthood.

Charles, however, quickly sees that a ride on the carousel can have unforeseen circumstances, because changing age instantly would not change the mind. "If I made you twenty-five tomorrow, Jim, your thoughts would still be boy thoughts, and it'd show! Or if they turned me into a boy of ten this instant, my brain would still be fifty and that boy would act funnier and older and weirder than any boy ever."

Because of this, a person who rode the carousel would be reformed only physically, with the same sins and emotions contained inside. Moreover, his new physical form, created unnaturally, would alienate him from his family and peers, leaving him with nowhere to turn to except for the carnival.


http://www.iupui.edu/~crbs/Bradbury/Bradburyjpegs/something_wicked7.jpg
The Grand Master Editions?

http://www.sffaudio.com/images/large/RBSomethingWicked500.jpg

Something Wicked (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derren_Brown#Something_Wicked_This_Way_Comes) This Way Comes
Brown's second live stage show, Something Wicked This Way Comes, toured around the UK following its success in the West End. The tour started in March at the Cambridge Theatre and finished in May at the Hammersmith Apollo. The show won the Laurence Olivier Award for Best Entertainment Show 2006. The show was co-written and directed by his long time collaborator Andy Nyman. The title is a direct quote from William Shakespeare's Macbeth; Act 4, scene 1, line 45.

The show was performed and filmed for a final time at the Old Vic Theatre at the end of the tour in mid-June 2006. A 90 minute edit of this show was broadcast on December 29, 2006 and June 10, 2007, on Channel 4, on May 10, 2008 on E4 and once more on June 17, 2008 on Channel 4; a longer, unedited version was released on DVD in May 2008.



In music:

Something Wicked This Way Comes (Cheyne album)
Something Wicked This Way Comes (The Herbaliser album)
Something Wicked This Way Comes (Iced Earth album)
http://mattbarlow.imageworks.dk/pics/something_wicked_this_way_comes.jpg
Something Wicked This Way Comes EP, an EP by Cold
Something Wicked This Way Comes, an album by The Enid
Somethin Wicked This Way Comes, an album by Wolfpac
"Sumthin' Wicked This Way Comes", a song by TLC from CrazySexyCool


http://creepshowproductions.com/store/images/cover_ms.jpg


brown.

[brown velvet]

http://www.bingebuddies.com/Pictures/Buckethead%20Cd%20Covers/SOME%20WHERE%20OVER%20THE%20SLAUGHTERHOUSE.jpg

and this 'scarecrow'? It is titled 'Judge':confused:
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/judge.jpg


brown.

[cheeb]

So maybe Alanis Morissette is used and controlled??? (refering to my post about her butterfly album covers :eek:

It Would Certainly Appear That Way..
The Usual Pattern Seems To Be Emerging...
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3194/alanismorissetteunderrute0.jpg
One Eye

Alanis Nadine Morissette was born on June 1, 1974, to French-Canadian and Hungarian parents. Raised in Ottawa, Canada, Alanis Morissette got her start as a pop diva in the Canadian music industry,

The young ingenue was playing piano by the age of 6, and songwriting by the age of 9. Thrust into the spotlight at 10 years old, Alanis Morissette was cast in the children's television variety show You Can't Do That on Television. The child star also had a single on her plate, entitled "Fate Stay With Me."

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7985/alanisfeastonscrapsiw5.jpg
Butterfly..

it was her meeting with Stephan Klovan in 1987 that turned her into a real pop diva. Impressed by Alanis Morissette's talent after having cast her to perform in Ottawa's Tulip Festival,


(She Was 13 Years Old)

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9009/alanismorissetteundernecu8.jpg
Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger

Alanis Morissette was signed to MCA/Canada at the age of 14 and in 1991, her pop-induced self-titled debut (at the time she was penned simply as Alanis) was released.

Alanis Morissette headed to Los Angeles, and had the good fortune of hooking up with songwriter-producer Glen Ballard in 1994. Along with Ballard, who had previously worked with Michael Jackson and Paula Abdul,

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1470/alanismorissettebutterfcd7.jpg
Butterflys-Eyes Of A Child

Madonna's Maverick was the lucky label that signed Alanis Morissette and saw the fruits of her talent. Madonna even bought Alanis Morissette a hefty watch as a gift for the success of Alanis Morissette's album, Jagged Little Pill.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5885/whiterabbitflexdb3.jpg
Hefty Watch-Trigger??

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5553/alanismorrisettestoryteao7.jpg
Fleur De Lys...

Between the ages of fourteen to eighteen, Morissette suffered from anorexia and bulimia nervosa, which were catalysed by "hardcore" professional pressure and managerial demands from her work towards making her first album.

She subsequently began therapy, which she called "a long process to un-program [my brain]. I try to remember, whatever my body is, it's perfect the way it is."

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5403/alanispj5.jpg
Bondage..
she gave an interview to the British newspaper The Mirror in which she discussed her past homosexual relationships, having dated a twenty-nine year-old man at age fourteen and, briefly, her experiences with drugs.

[brown velvet]

Good point. It's strange, because the Bratz dolls have oversized, puffy lips out of proportion with the rest of their faces.

Also, I would SAY that the hands in that ad are most likely from other people, i.e. HAND MODELS! There is a visual disconnect between the faces and the hands.

hi,

yep, I agree :D


http://www.foroswebgratis.com/imagenes_foros/2/3/4/0/4//358653val6%5B1%5D.gif
(This one.... can't say I care for the hand movement either :()

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/reanimatedframe.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/chains3frame.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/suicide.jpg


bubblegum babe's :(

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5681/bubblegum6afo3.gif
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/Blushin_Cheeks/sparkle%20pics/bby2k.gif


brown.

[brown velvet]

very insightful observations, Broken Silence

Guess we know now why Cobain's 'father' (allegedly his father) was such a big 'Queen' fan.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Queen_crest.png/532px-Queen_crest.png



hi :)


knew I had seen this a long time ago....

any use? Any help with it?


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/wwindsor666.jpg

I also found this site (http://www.weltverschwoerung.de/freimaurer-illuminaten-und-andere-geheimb%FCnde/15486-british-israel-prinz-william-messias-oder-antichrist.html), can't read it though:(
it sure looks interesting, some cabala stuff mentioned, anyone here speak German? :p




brown.

[soulja]

it sure looks interesting, some cabala stuff mentioned, anyone here speak German? :p


i do..

translating it all would be one heck of a job.

but basicly, they decode the Coat of Arms symbolism/meaning of each Royal family member, guessing who will be the Anti-Christ.

one detail i've found interesting is that Prince Charles got his Coat of Arms at age 13

[brown velvet]

i do..

translating it all would be one heck of a job.

but basicly, they decode the Coat of Arms symbolism/meaning of each Royal family member, guessing who will be the Anti-Christ.

one detail i've found interesting is that Prince Charles got his Coat of Arms at age 13
:)

the one I just posted, was called wwindsor666



brown.

[broken silence]

http://www.bingebuddies.com/Pictures/Buckethead%20Cd%20Covers/SOME%20WHERE%20OVER%20THE%20SLAUGHTERHOUSE.jpg

Ah, interesting connections once again! Buckethead left GNR in 2004 and was replaced by Rhon Thal, who calls himself Bumblefoot. (Bee connection)

http://www.bumblefoot.com/discography/cd/images/aobf300.jpg
Bumblefoot plays this guitar on stage http://www.bumblefoot.com/gallery/Bumblefoot-20050617-Freakfoot-Raleigh_NC.jpg
http://www.bumblefoot.com/discography/cd/images/911cd300.jpg This album is called 9/11. Seriously.

One of the songs he will be playing on the long awaited Chinese Democracy album is...wait for it..... Catcher in the Rye. Well I never. A song worthy of the MK ultra top 10. A song rumored to be about Mark Chapman, part of it sounds exactly like the Beatles.

Another Queen connection here, Brian May plays guitar on the demo version of this song which was leaked some years ago. Brian may also supported GNR in 1993 on the Use Your Illusion tour now that I think of it.

Catcher in the Rye by Axl Rose

When all is said and done
We're not the only ones
Who look at life this way
That's what the old folks say
But every time I’d see them
Makes me wish I had a gun

If I thought that I was crazy
Well I guess I'd have more fun
Guess I'd have more fun

Oh No, No, No, No, No

The Catcher in the Rye again Ooh
Won't let ya get away from his gun
It's just another day like today
You decide
If I don't have to
Then they'll find
And I won't ask you
At anytime
Or long thereafter
If it's cold outside
I'll be wrapped up in
Into me
Oh no....
(Solo)

The Catcher in the Rye again Ooh
Won't let ya get away from his gun
It's just another day like today


When all is said and done
We're not the only ones
Who look at life this way
That's what the young folks say
As if they'd ever change
That's not who am I to say
But every time I'd see them
Makes me wish I had a gun
If I thought that I was crazy
Well I guess I'd have more fun
It's what used to be's not there for me
And ought to find someone that belongs insane like I do


Oh no
Not at all (repeat)

On an ordinary day
Back in an ordinary way
All at once the song I heard
No longer wouldn't play for anybody
Or anyone
That needed comfort from somebody
Needed comfort from someone who cared
To be
Not like you
And Unlike me
And then then voices ran away
From me
So now you set the wheels in motion
It Haunts our memories
You were the instrument
You were the one
How a body tipped a bottle
And Gave that boy a gun
You Took our innocence
Beyond our scabs
Sometimes the only thing
You got at all
When no one else is there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHskgl2B730

Fucking disturbing fan made video from youtube. Note Axl in the Charlie Manson t-shirt, and general illuminati symbolisym throughout.

[rixxmixxhell]

It Would Certainly Appear That Way..
The Usual Pattern Seems To Be Emerging...
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3194/alanismorissetteunderrute0.jpg
One Eye

Alanis Nadine Morissette was born on June 1, 1974, to French-Canadian and Hungarian parents. Raised in Ottawa, Canada, Alanis Morissette got her start as a pop diva in the Canadian music industry,

The young ingenue was playing piano by the age of 6, and songwriting by the age of 9. Thrust into the spotlight at 10 years old, Alanis Morissette was cast in the children's television variety show You Can't Do That on Television. The child star also had a single on her plate, entitled "Fate Stay With Me."

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7985/alanisfeastonscrapsiw5.jpg
Butterfly..

it was her meeting with Stephan Klovan in 1987 that turned her into a real pop diva. Impressed by Alanis Morissette's talent after having cast her to perform in Ottawa's Tulip Festival,


(She Was 13 Years Old)

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9009/alanismorissetteundernecu8.jpg
Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger

Alanis Morissette was signed to MCA/Canada at the age of 14 and in 1991, her pop-induced self-titled debut (at the time she was penned simply as Alanis) was released.

Alanis Morissette headed to Los Angeles, and had the good fortune of hooking up with songwriter-producer Glen Ballard in 1994. Along with Ballard, who had previously worked with Michael Jackson and Paula Abdul,

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1470/alanismorissettebutterfcd7.jpg
Butterflys-Eyes Of A Child

Madonna's Maverick was the lucky label that signed Alanis Morissette and saw the fruits of her talent. Madonna even bought Alanis Morissette a hefty watch as a gift for the success of Alanis Morissette's album, Jagged Little Pill.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5885/whiterabbitflexdb3.jpg
Hefty Watch-Trigger??

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5553/alanismorrisettestoryteao7.jpg
Fleur De Lys...

Between the ages of fourteen to eighteen, Morissette suffered from anorexia and bulimia nervosa, which were catalysed by "hardcore" professional pressure and managerial demands from her work towards making her first album.

She subsequently began therapy, which she called "a long process to un-program [my brain]. I try to remember, whatever my body is, it's perfect the way it is."

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5403/alanispj5.jpg
Bondage..
she gave an interview to the British newspaper The Mirror in which she discussed her past homosexual relationships, having dated a twenty-nine year-old man at age fourteen and, briefly, her experiences with drugs.

ohh, but me like Alanis.:(

I always suspected but i know Alanis to be a daring women when she went against her record company and released ''Supposed former infatuation junkie''. - 'Think You' being the ''hit'' song..but to the industry it was a flop of sorts....i feel she knew she was at risk with higher ups so to speak. It's a shame.

She is catholic, believes in karma but through her lyrics, although some are completely female based feminists types, alot are also about pain, struggle, being open, expressing, in light or darkness, which i can definitely relate too.
Rick

[broken silence]

From the same person who made the Catcher video. Whoever made these videos is obviously well versed in mind control.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdu38p1pWgc&NR=1

[brown velvet]

Ah, interesting connections once again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHskgl2B730

Fucking disturbing fan made video from youtube. Note Axl in the Charlie Manson t-shirt, and general illuminati symbolisym throughout.

hi

went and took these, can't believe how spot on this is......

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye.jpghttp://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/GI3-06-s.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye02.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye03.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye04.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye06.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye07.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye08.jpg


brown.

[miss_splitfoot]

re: Queen logo

the logo = the zodiac signs of the 4 members - 2 leos, 1 cancer, fairies for virgo.

[broken silence]

hi

went and took these, can't believe how spot on this is......

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye.jpghttp://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/GI3-06-s.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye02.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye03.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye04.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye06.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye07.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/06%2008%2008%20Catcher/catcherintherye08.jpg


brown.

Hi, good work. The Rainbow is the favoured hang out of rock stars in LA.

The green eyes thing, I think they are trying to tell us Axl has been one of theirs since day 1.

Do they disconnected hands mean a loss of control over his own life?

[soulja]

was reading through queen lyrics the last half an hour, they sure are interesting in regards to MK.


All Dead, All Dead

Memories, my memories
How long can you stay
To haunt my days
She came without a farthing
A babe without a name
So much ado about nothing
Is what shed try to say
So much ado my lover
So many games we played
Through every fleeted summer
Through every precious day

All dead all dead
All the dreams we had
And I wonder why I still live on
All dead all dead
And alone Im spared
My sweeter half instead
All dead
And gone
All dead...

All dead all dead
At the rainbows end
And still I hear her own sweet song
All dead all dead
Take me back again
You know my little friends
All dead
And gone
All dead and gone

Her ways are always with me
I wander all the while
But please you must forgive me
I am old but still a child

All dead all dead
But I should not grieve
In time it comes to everyone
All dead all dead
But in hope I breathe
Of course I dont believe
Youre dead
And gone
All dead
And gone



Killer Queen

She keeps Moet and Chandon in her pretty cabinet
'Let them eat cake' she says
Just like Marie Antoinette
A built in remedy for Khrushchev and Kennedy
And anytime an invitation you can decline
Caviar and cigarettes well versed in etiquette
Extr'ordinarily nice
She's a killer queen gunpowder gelatine
Dynamite with a lazer beam
Guaranteed to blow your mind
Recommended at the price
Insatiable an appetite wanna try?
To avoid complications
She never kept the same address
In conversation she spoke just like a baroness
Met a man from China went down to Geisha Minah
Then again incidentally if you're that way inclined (she's a
killer queen)
Perfume came naturally from Paris (naturally)
For cars she couldn't care less
Fastidious and precise
She's a killer queen gunpowder gelatine
Dynamite with a lazer beam
Guaranteed to blow your mind
Recommended at the price
Insatiable an appetite wanna try?
Drop of a hat she's as willing as a playful as a pussy cat
Then momentarily out of action
Temporarily out of gas
To absolutely drive you wild - wild
She's out to get you
She's a killer queen gunpowder gelatine
Dynamite with a lazer beam
Guaranteed to blow your mind
Recommended at the price
Insatiable an appetite wanna try?
Wanna try



Princes of The Universe

Here we are.born to be kings.
Were the princes of the universe.
Here we belong.fighting to survive.
In a world with the darkest powers.
And here we are.were the princes of the universe.
Here we belong.fighting for survival.
Weve come to be the rulers of your world.
I am immortal.i have inside me blood of kings.
I have no rival.no man can be my equal.
Take me to the future of your world.
Born to be kings.princes of the universe.
Fighting and free.got your world in my hand.
Im here for your love and Ill make my stand.
We were born to be princes of the universe.
No man could understand.my power is in my own hand.
Ooh.ooh.ooh.ooh.people talk about you.
People say youve had your day.
Im a man that will go far.
Fly the moon and reach for the stars.
With my sword and head held high.
Got to pass the test first time - yeah.
I know that people talk about me I hear it every day.
But I can prove you wrong cos Im right first time.
Yeah.yeah.alright.watch this man fly.
Bring on the girls.
Here we are.born to be kings.were the princes of
The universe.here we belong.born to be kings.
Princes of the universe.fighting and free.
Got the world in my hands.Im here for your love.
And Ill make my stand.
We were born to be princes of the universe.

and of course Bohemian Rhapsody



Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
Open your eyes
Look up to the skies and see-
Im just a poor boy,i need no sympathy-
Because Im easy come,easy go,
A little high,little low,
Anyway the wind blows,doesnt really matter to me,
To me

Mama,just killed a man,
Put a gun against his head,
Pulled my trigger,now hes dead,
Mama,life had just begun,
But now Ive gone and thrown it all away-
Mama ooo,
Didnt mean to make you cry-
If Im not back again this time tomorrow-
Carry on,carry on,as if nothing really matters-

Too late,my time has come,
Sends shivers down my spine-
Bodys aching all the time,
Goodbye everybody-Ive got to go-
Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth-
Mama ooo- (any way the wind blows)
I dont want to die,
I sometimes wish Id never been born at all-

I see a little silhouetto of a man,
Scaramouche,scaramouche will you do the fandango-
Thunderbolt and lightning-very very frightening me-
Galileo,galileo,
Galileo galileo
Galileo figaro-magnifico-
But Im just a poor boy and nobody loves me-
Hes just a poor boy from a poor family-
Spare him his life from this monstrosity-
Easy come easy go-,will you let me go-
Bismillah! no-,we will not let you go-let him go-
Bismillah! we will not let you go-let him go
Bismillah! we will not let you go-let me go
Will not let you go-let me go
Will not let you go let me go
No,no,no,no,no,no,no-
Mama mia,mama mia,mama mia let me go-
Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me,for me,for me-

So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye-
So you think you can love me and leave me to die-
Oh baby-cant do this to me baby-
Just gotta get out-just gotta get right outta here-

Nothing really matters,
Anyone can see,
Nothing really matters-,nothing really matters to me,

Any way the wind blows....




March of The Black Queen


Do you mean it do you mean it do you mean it
Why dont you mean it why do I follow you
And where do you go?
Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
Youve never seen nothing like it
No never in your life
Like going up to heaven
And then coming back alive
Let me tell you all about it
Oooh give me a little time to choose
Water babies singing in a lily pool delight
Blue powder monkeys praying in the dead of night
Here comes the black queen poking in the pile
Fi fo the black queen marching single file
Take this take that bring them down to size
March to the black queen

Put them in the cellar with the naughty boys
Little nigger sugar then a rub-a-dub-a-baby oil
Black on black on every finger nail and toe
Weve only begun - begun
Make this make that keep making all that noise
Ooh march to the black queen
Now Ive got a belly full
You can be my sugar baby
You can be my honey chile

A voice from behind me reminds me
Spread out your wings you are an angel
Remember to deliver with the speed of light
A little bit of love and joy
Everything you do bears a will
And a why and a wherefore
A little bit of love and joy
In each and every soul lies a man
And very soon hell deceive and discover
But even to the end of his life
Hell bring a little love

Ah ah ah ah ah
I reign with my left hand I rule with my right
Im lord of all darkness Im queen of the night
Ive got the power now to do
The march of the black queen
My life is in your hands Ill fo and Ill fie
Ill be what you make me Ill do what you like
Ill be a bad boy Ill be your bad boy
Ill do the march of the black queen
Ah ah ah ah ah

Walking true to style shes vulgar abuse and vile
The black queen tattoos all her pies
She boils and she bakes
And she never dots her is
La la la la la la la la la la la la
La la la la la

Forget your sing a-longs and your lullabies
Surrender to the city of the fireflies
Dance to the devil in beat with the band
To hell with all of you hand in hand
But now its time to be gone
La la la la forever forever
Ah ah ah ah ah

[soulja]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/2mhj0ib.jpg

Shakira Isabel Mebarak Ripoll (born: February 2, 1977), known simply as Shakira, is a Colombian singer-songwriter of Lebanese descent, musician, record producer, dancer and philanthropist who has been a major figure in the pop music scene of Latin America since the mid-1990s. She is a native Spanish speaker and also speaks fluent English, Portuguese, Italian, and some Arabic. In 2001, she broke through into the English-speaking world with the release of Laundry Service, which sold over thirteen million copies worldwide.Shakira is the highest-selling Colombian artist of all time, having sold more than 50 million albums worldwide, according to BMI. She has also won numerous awards worldwide, including two Grammy Awards, eight Latin Grammy Awards, fifteen Billboard Music Awards, three MTV Video Music Awards, a People's Choice Award and receiving a Golden Globe nomination. She is also the only artist from South America to reach the number-one spot on the Billboard Hot 100, the Australian ARIA chart, the United World Chart and the UK Singles Chart. Additionally, she is one of the only artists to have 10 Spanish singles chart on the Billboard Hot 100.

According to the United World Chart, Shakira is as of 2008 the 4th most successful artist so far for the last decade, in terms of single sales. She is also the only artist to have two songs in the top ten of the most successful singles since 1999.

Shakira will be awarded with a star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame, making her the first Colombian to receive this honor.

Early life

Shakira was born on February 2, 1977 in Barranquilla, Colombia. She is the only child of Nidya del Carmen Ripoll Torrado, a Colombian of Spanish and Italian ancestry, and William Mebarak Chadid who is of Lebanese descent.
She has 8 older half siblings from her father's previous marriage, but she often omits the half in interviews because they are so close to her.

Shakira wrote her first poem, entitled "La Rosa De Cristal" ("The Crystal Rose") when she was only four years old. As she was growing up, she was fascinated watching her father writing stories on a typewriter, and asked for one as a Christmas gift. She got her wish at age seven and continued writing poetry. These poems eventually evolved into songs. At the age of eight, after an older half-brother was killed in a motorcycle accident, Shakira wrote her first song entitled "Tus gafas oscuras" ("Your dark glasses"). The inspiration came from her father, who for years after the accident wore dark glasses, to hide his grief.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/Shakira-Magia.jpg

Shakira's debut album, Magia, was recorded with Sony Music in 1991, when she was only thirteen years old.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/la_tortura.jpg

Personal life

In 2000, Shakira started dating Antonio de la Rúa, the son of then president of Argentina Fernando de la Rúa, a romance that made headline news throughout Latin America. In March 2001, he proposed to her. De la Rúa and Shakira remain engaged. She currently lives in The Bahamas. Shakira's future mother-in-law Inés Pertiné claimed the wedding would take place in September 2007 in the mansion which Shakira owns in the Dominican Republic (though this didn't happen). She also said that Shakira has already ordered Argentinian designer María Pryor to design her wedding dress, All this was denied by Shakira herself in Mexico.

Shakira is a cousin of model and 2005-2006 Miss Colombia, Valerie Dominguez, who is likewise of Lebanese descent.


Philanthropy and humanitarian work

In 1997, Shakira founded the Pies Descalzos Foundation. It is a Colombian charity with special schools for poor children all around Colombia. It was funded by Shakira and other international groups and individuals. The name of the foundation is taken from Shakira's third studio album called Pies Descalzos, released in 1995.

During her career, Shakira has performed at a large number of benefit concerts. In 2002 she sang at a Party in the Park concert fundraising for the Prince's Trust. That same year she performed at Divas Live which support VH1's Save the Music Foundation. On July 2, 2005 she performed her hits "Whenever, Wherever" and "La Tortura" on the Live 8 benefit concert at the Palace of Versailles, near Paris. On July 7, 2007, the singer opened the German leg of Live Earth in Hamburg. Her set included "Don't Bother", "Inevitable", "Día Especial" (with Gustavo Cerati) and "Hips Don't Lie".[39] Shakira also performed at the "Clinton Global Initiative", where she performed her hits "Underneath Your Clothes", "Inevitable" and "Hips Don't Lie". On May 17, 2008 Shakira and twenty other Latin American and Spanish artists performed in Buenos Aires and Mexico City to raise money for Shakira's Latin America in Solidarity Action (ALAS) charity.[40] This concert attracted 150,000 people in Buenos Aires. Although tickets were free, the demand exceeded the supply; some fans who were fortunate enough to secure free tickets resold them.

Shakira is a UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador and is one of their global representatives. "Shakira, like all our Goodwill Ambassadors, was chosen based on her compassion, her involvement in global issues, her deep commitment to helping children, and her appeal to young people around the world. We're very pleased to have Shakira join the UNICEF family. I know she'll help bring UNICEF's mission to the audience who will have the most impact on our future – young people themselves", said UNICEF's Executive Director Carol Bellamy.

On April 3, 2006, Shakira was honored at a United Nations ceremony for creating the Pies Descalzos Foundation. At the event, the singer said, "Let's not forget that at the end of this day when we all go home, 960 children will have died in Latin America."

Shakira was recently ranked at number 48 on the list of Top 50 Most Charitable Celebrities by OK! magazine. It reported that she donates approximately $55,000 to charity yearly.

On September 28, 2007 at the Clinton Global Initiative, it was revealed that Shakira' newest charity, called ALAS Foundation (America Latina en Accion Solidaria - Latin America in Solidarity Action), donated a massive $40 million to help the victims of natural disasters. An additional $5 million will be donated to four Latin American countries, to be spent on education and health. The charity was able to collect US$ 200 million from philanthropists Carlos Slim, Mexico’s richest man, and Howard Buffett, son of U.S. investment guru Warren Buffett, the singer announced on April 15, 2008.

In December 2007, Shakira visited Bangladesh to appeal for the victims of Cyclone Sidr. She spent 3 days with the victims and visited children affected by the disaster in schools built by Unicef and participated in the distribution of family kits and warm clothes. She said that little was left of the school she visited in the village of Mirzapur, but it still provided an "oasis" for the children. "I am more convinced than ever that education is the key to so many of the difficulties that our children face in countries like mine or in developing countries like this one. It's the key to a better and safer world," she said.

Shakira served as the Honorary Chairperson for "Action Week" 2008 (April 21-27). The event is sponsored by the Global Campaign for Education (GCE), to generate awareness about the Education for All Act. She spoke with the U.S. Congress, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, and World Bank President Robert Zoellick to promote a move towards Global Education. Angelina Jolie served as last year's chair.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/shakira-album-5000727.jpg
five pointed star/starfish reference ?

would fit with the other album imagery,baby - red background
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/shakira-album400.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/newcd2.jpg

the tree as symbol for bloodline? just like a tree bloodlines have different branches. or maybe kabbalistic tree of life ? tied into programming.

and eve, genetic engineering/royal genome project ? female carrier of bloodline ?

[broken silence]

Those Queen lyrics are so obvious Soulja. I used to blindly sing along to those not realising what I was singing about, not anymore. It`s funny how life turns out sometimes. I`m so glad I woke up out of the slumber.

Out of the silent planet.

http://static.metal-archives.com/images/2/5/4/6/2546.jpg

John Mellencamp Big Daddy. That`s his own daughter, sick man.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ce/John_Mellencamp_-_Big_Daddy.jpg

A line of clothing

http://shoppetcelebrity.com/shop/images/butterfly1.jpg

Bit obvious lads.

http://www.buoy.com/~bonfire/hell.gif

Eating a banana, monkey alter? (ok streching a bit there:p)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000026J6.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Trying to tell us something Leonard? Had a "relationship" with Monarch victim Sharon Stone in the 1990`s.

http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/times2001.jpg

An Iron Maiden Snow White christmas card.:eek:

http://98.130.155.23/riggsart/Media/pubart.dir/maiden.dir/61.jpg

[cheeb]

Eve And Satan

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8298/satanbabyrm6.jpg
Rosalinda Celentano,
Was Satan

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8914/cofuo2.jpg

She was also in this:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1070/rendercmsfieldjsplx8.jpg

Now this is getting very freaky...

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7827/eveappleph3.jpg

EVEand the fall ofADAM
MAN!!!

All The BIG female stars use this image

Shakira:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5839/shakiraoralfixationvolvhm8.jpg

Gwen Stefani:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9200/320x240hv4.jpg

And This One:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4495/angelinajolieeatingapplyt0.jpg

Angel Jolie!!!

Who also passes herself off as:

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4656/virgin450x600nj7.jpg

Mary of Guadilope!!!

Here she is working for the UN,
as a Good Will ambassador,
for DARFUR

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2373/angelinajoliejaviersolact3.jpg

Now what is she doing with,
MR 666

Javier Solana?????

Funny though that all these women,
Bear the Mark of CAIN!!!

7XFOLD!!!

I Have Posted This Before On TinTins Thread,
But I Think It Fits In Here Too....

[soulja]

http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/no-doubt-tragic-kingdom-cover.jpg

http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/disney/apple.jpg

[soulja]

Steve Vai
http://cdn.last.fm/coverart/300x300/2033070-1546379761.jpghttp://cdn.last.fm/coverart/300x300/2281474-50815470.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/l0029765gif.jpg

[soulja]

Eating a banana, monkey alter? (ok streching a bit there:p)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000026J6.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


it's ok to strech it every now and then, i'll join you

have posted alot on last years UK big brother, here's the winner
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/books/lee_pete460.jpg

http://www.pete-bennett.co.uk/gallery/monkey_magic2.jpg
pic's from his official site and called 'monkey magic'

Peter "Pete" Alexander Bennett[1], born March 22, 1982 in Camberwell, London, was the winner of Big Brother 7. He is a rock n roll singer, formerly with Daddy Fantastic. He lives in Brighton and has Tourette syndrome.His characteristic phonic tic is a loud shout of "wankers", and he is also renowned for his catchphrase of "Eezamana!"

Bennett was bullied at school from an early age, and was diagnosed with Tourettes at the age of 14.He was deemed an outcast by fellow children at this time. Bennett's father walked out on his mother when he was very young, and he did not see his father from the age of 14 onwards, although he has always kept in touch. However, in a letter he received on Big Brother, he found out that his father wished to see him again, though this has apparently not yet happened.[6] Pete also has a younger half brother, Alex.

Bennett's Tourettes has been publicised as being aggravated by an addiction to ketamine, a dissociative anaesthetic drug generally used in veterinary practice or for pain relief in burns treatment of children. This drug use contributed to his "own personal hell" and led him to "go completely bananas" a year before he entered Big Brother.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Bennett

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mind031copy.jpg

[cheeb]

Steve Vai

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/l0029765gif.jpg

That Picture Of Stevie Vau,
Has Got A Masonic Signiture To It

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3330/freemasonryladdercm0.jpg

The Guitair Reminds Me Of The Masonic Ladder

[soulja]

you mean jacobs ladder ?

reminds me at that movie about army experiments, soldiers going berserk killing each other instead of the enemy, hallucinations, nightmares..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/70/Jacobsladderposter.jpg/406px-Jacobsladderposter.jpg

Plot

The film opens on October 6, 1971. Jacob Singer (Tim Robbins) is a U.S. soldier in the Mekong Delta, Vietnam. Helicopters pass overhead, carrying supplies for what appears to be preparation for a big Viet Cong offensive. Without any warning, Jacob's unit comes under fire. The soldiers try to take cover, but begin to exhibit strange behavior for no apparent reason. Jacob tries to escape the unexplained insanity, only to be bayonetted by an unseen enemy.

The film shifts between Vietnam, to Jacob's memories (and delusions) of his son Gabe (Macaulay Culkin, uncredited) and former wife Sarah (Patricia Kalember), to his present (this timeframe is set in 1977) relationship with a woman named Jezebel (Elizabeth Peña) in New York City. During this time, Jacob faces several threats to his life and has severe hallucinatory experiences. It is revealed that his son Gabe was hit by a car and killed while Jacob was in Vietnam.

Jacob's friend and chiropractor Louis (Danny Aiello) states the main thematic point of the film: in effect, hell is really purgatory, and those who are ready to let go of their lives do not find the experience 'hellish'. It is at this point in the movie that Louis cites the 14th century Christian mystic Meister Eckhart.

As the hallucinations become increasingly bizarre, Jacob learns about chemical experiments performed on U.S. soldiers in Vietnam. His surviving platoon-mates confess to Jacob that they have been seeing horrible hallucinations as well. Jacob loses an army buddy in an car-ignition explosion while reaching down to pick up a coin. Jacob is then approached by a man named Michael Newman (Matt Craven), who claims to have been a chemist working with the Army's chemical warfare division in Saigon where he worked on creating a drug that would increase aggression in soldiers. Tests of the drug (code-named "The Ladder" in reference to the effect) were first given to monkeys and then to a group of enemy POWs, with gruesome results. Later small doses of "The Ladder" were given to Jacob's unit, through the platoons' C-rations. However, instead of targeting the enemy, the men in Jacob's unit attacked each other indiscriminately.

We finally learn that Jacob never made it out of Vietnam; the entire series of experiences turns out to have been a dying hallucination. Jacob's experiences appear to have been a form of purgation in which he releases himself from his earthly attachments, finally joining his dead son Gabe to ascend a staircase toward a bright light.

At the end of the film, a message states that the U.S. Army allegedly experimented with a hallucinogenic drug called BZ, but the Pentagon denies it.

[emerald]

it's ok to strech it every now and then, i'll join you

have posted alot on last years UK big brother, here's the winner
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/books/lee_pete460.jpg

http://www.pete-bennett.co.uk/gallery/monkey_magic2.jpg
pic's from his official site and called 'monkey magic'


This PETE guy - at least in the first pic - looks like ;ROBBIE WILLIAMS...

[soulja]

psst emerald, don't tell ;)

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/robbie-williams.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/Robbie_Williams_-_Something_Beautif.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/1329f.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/robbie_williams_-_let_me_entertain_.jpg

[cheeb]

Schhhush!!!!

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7381/robbiewilliamsow3.jpg

;)

[miss_splitfoot]

i think it's too easy to find "hidden" meanings in lyrics & photographs - see my Cliff Richard post for example. i've been looking at Cliff's lyrics & could post loads which could be "MK references", eg:


Broken Doll

Ooh she's just a broken doll - she ain't no
Use at all - since you've been gone

Ooh she's just a broken toy - she's no ones
Pride and joy - look what you've done

You had her on a string
You made a fool of her
And that's an awful thing
She thought she'd paid her fare
Now you've gone and you just don't care

You can't wind her up - she's a broken doll
You can't wind her up - altough the key fits
You can't wind her up - she's a broken doll
Someone's thrown away all the pieces

Now you've played your wicked game
Don't you feel no shame
Look what you've done!

Now she's just a broken girl while you're
All around the world - having your fun



BUTTERFLY KISSES:
Sweet sixteen today.
Shes looking like her momma a little more every day.
One part woman, the other part girl.
To perfume and makeup, from ribbons and curls.
Trying her wings in a great big world. But I remember...

Butterfly kisses after bedtime prayer.
Stickin little white flowers all up in her hair.
"You know how much I love you daddy, but if you dont mind,
Im only going to kiss you on cheek this time."
With all that Ive done wrong, I must have done something right.
To deserve a hug every morning, and butterfly kisses at night.

All the precise time.
Like the wind, the years go by.
Precious butterfly, spread your wings and fly.

Shell change her name today.
Shell make a promise, and Ill give her away.
Standing in the bride room just staring at her.
She asked me what Im thinking, and I said, "Im not sure,
I just feel like Im losing my baby girl."
Then she leaned over... and gave me...


you could choose ANY singer & find something to link it to MK in some way. this thread is interesting in places, but i do think some people are too OTT at times.

(Cliff also has a song called BANANA MAN)

[soulja]

well you already made it pretty clear that you regard most info in this thread as nonsense.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31260

never mind your run in with hunka..

if you think the patterns shown in this thread are all coincidence, fair enough.

[brown velvet]

Hi, good work.
Do the disconnected hands mean a loss of control over his own life?

Hi,

thank you:D


disconnected hands can mean anything the progger wants it to mean...:(

examples would be, lack of control. Right hand doesn't know what left hand is doing, remote and individual acts, un balance, disharmony, fighting.

http://americancopywriter.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/images_4.jpeg
http://www.addamsfamily.com/addams/remote1.jpg

http://eclecticcommons.telldat.com/files/2007/11/doorhandle.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/---SlipKnoT---/thing.jpg
(SlipKnoT)
http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/addams-family-thing-1.jpg

and this really disturbs me too

Steve Vai
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/l0029765gif.jpg


try as hard as I like, still can't 'see' either of his hands from the elbow down.

This is a picture of the man who carries the guitar, and not who actually plays the guitar (imo) Disconnected? Oh yeah!



brown.

[hunkahunka]

John Mellencamp Big Daddy. That`s his own daughter, sick man.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ce/John_Mellencamp_-_Big_Daddy.jpg


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0009IW9D4.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[brown velvet]

i think it's too easy to find "hidden" meanings in lyrics & photographs - see my Cliff Richard post for example. i've been looking at Cliff's lyrics & could post loads which could be "MK references", eg:


Broken Doll

Ooh she's just a broken doll - she ain't no
Use at all - since you've been gone

Ooh she's just a broken toy - she's no ones
Pride and joy - look what you've done

You had her on a string
You made a fool of her
And that's an awful thing
She thought she'd paid her fare
Now you've gone and you just don't care

You can't wind her up - she's a broken doll
You can't wind her up - altough the key fits
You can't wind her up - she's a broken doll
Someone's thrown away all the pieces

Now you've played your wicked game
Don't you feel no shame
Look what you've done!

Now she's just a broken girl while you're
All around the world - having your fun



BUTTERFLY KISSES:
Sweet sixteen today.
Shes looking like her momma a little more every day.
One part woman, the other part girl.
To perfume and makeup, from ribbons and curls.
Trying her wings in a great big world. But I remember...

Butterfly kisses after bedtime prayer.
Stickin little white flowers all up in her hair.
"You know how much I love you daddy, but if you dont mind,
Im only going to kiss you on cheek this time."
With all that Ive done wrong, I must have done something right.
To deserve a hug every morning, and butterfly kisses at night.

All the precise time.
Like the wind, the years go by.
Precious butterfly, spread your wings and fly.

Shell change her name today.
Shell make a promise, and Ill give her away.
Standing in the bride room just staring at her.
She asked me what Im thinking, and I said, "Im not sure,
I just feel like Im losing my baby girl."
Then she leaned over... and gave me...


you could choose ANY singer & find something to link it to MK in some way. this thread is interesting in places, but i do think some people are too OTT at times.

(Cliff also has a song called BANANA MAN)

Hiya,

may be you are missing the point a bit with the lyrics...?
Not all lyrics are written by MC victims, you can usually tell by the amount of lyrics / descriptions, the other lyrics (maybe good old Cliff) are original and un MC lyrics, that can be used to reinforce actual trauma on to other victims.
What I am seeing from this thread is that all genre's, all of them seem to have been infected / infiltrated.... If you aren't contributing, then you are contaminating, they look to see what can be 'used' spoiled, harmed, eg... rainbows, umberella's etc...




brown.


PS


Got myself a crying, talking, sleeping, walking, living doll (http://www.lyricstime.com/cliff-richard-living-doll-lyrics.html)
Got to do my best to please her, just 'cause she's a livingdoll
Got a roving eye and that is why she satisfies my soul
Got the one and only walking talking, living doll

Take a look at her hair, it's real
And if you don't believe what I say, just feel
I'm gonna lock her up in a trunk
So no big hunk can steal her away from me

Got myself a crying, talking, sleeping, walking, living doll
Got to do my best to please her, just 'cause she's a livingdoll
Got a roving eye and that is why she satisfies my soul
Got the one and only walking talking, living doll

Well, take a look at her hair, it's real
And if you don't believe what I say, just feel
Gonna lock her up in a trunk
So no big hunk can steal her away from me

Got myself a crying, talking, sleeping, walking, living doll
Got to do my best to please her, just 'cause she's a livingdoll
Got a roving eye and that is why she satisfies my soul
Got the one and only walking talking, living doll

[soulja]

Mind Control Records present :
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/cover.jpg
http://www.mindcontrolrecords.com/

[cheeb]

i think it's too easy to find "hidden" meanings in lyrics & photographs - see my Cliff Richard post for example. i've been looking at Cliff's lyrics & could post loads which could be "MK references", eg:

you could choose ANY singer & find something to link it to MK in some way. this thread is interesting in places, but i do think some people are too OTT at times.

(Cliff also has a song called BANANA MAN)

I Don't Think Cliff Is MK Ultra,
Probably More Of An Abandoned Tavistock Project;)

He Has Got Some Pretty High Up Connections Though:

Tony Blair's fondness for 'freebie' holidays was again in the spotlight last night as it emerged he singled out Sir Cliff Richard's campaign to change Britain's copyright laws as a priority.

The singer, who has given Blair and his family free use of his £3 million villa in Barbados for the past three years, has been lobbying the Government to extend the period for which he can earn royalties on his work.

A leaked record of an internal Labour meeting reveals the Prime Minister highlighted the campaign as a key issue for ministers.

At a meeting of Labour's ruling national executive committee last year, Mr Blair said that despite the 'dominating global headlines' and recent terror attacks, Labour should not lose sight of the domestic agenda.

He 'addressed concerns' about copyright laws 'whereby Cliff Richard and the Rolling Stones only receive 50 years' protection compared with 70 years in the rest of Europe', according to one member's detailed written record.

He Just Gets Things Horribly Wrong,
And Far From Being A National Treasure,
He Is A National Embarrasment...

Sir Cliff Richard, OBE, Kt (born Harry Roger Webb on 14 October 1940

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8629/cliffsgosinglelt6.jpg

Cliff Richard

For over 4 decades the public have pondered the question ‘Is Cliff Richard Gay’? Analysis of his childhood provides an unambiguous answer.

Cliff Richard’s boyhood had many of the hallmarks of the classic gay upbringing: close to a strong mother and a bad relationship with an authoritarian, remote father.

Two thirds of gay men recall being exceptionally close to their mothers who they recall as being very strong women (compared with one third of heterosexuals). This was true of Cliff.

‘She is a very forceful person’ he says and in his fifties he is still very close to her. ‘I have to face her regularly. I always have to justify everything’.

Everyone who knows Cliff well says that he is not much interested in sex

He is on record as having had sexual intercourse twice only, with one woman in 1962. There are three other women who he ‘heavy petted’, the last of these being tennis star Sue Barker, back in the 1970s.

That appears to be the extent of his sexual experience. The reasons are unusually clear.

His strict Christian upbringing taught him that sex outside marriage was a sin and this often creates sexual inhibition.

Alongside this was a mother-fixation. Cliff freely admits ‘I was looking for someone like my mother. I would like to marry someone like my mother’.

The trouble is, incest is strictly prohibited. This helps to explain why Cliff always seemed to back off whenever his relationships with women became too sexual.

Attracted to women associated with his mother, subconsciously Cliff would feel he was having sex with someone who is totally forbidden fruit.

He would lose his libido and feel very anxious. Confronted by a woman’s body and all the smells and sensations of sex, he would be filled with horrified disgust at the woman and himself.

Most repulsive of all would be the sex act itself. When women became so aroused that they wanted to go all the way, his religious prohibition against premarital sex would be triggered. At such moments the woman probably became ‘fallen’, defiled and defiling.

Sex is taboo for him because it activates the incest taboo. Dependent relationships and sex are too closely connected with his mother.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2600/christinekeeler1963fx8.jpg

He Is A Usefull Idiot..!!!

[cheeb]

very insightful observations, Broken Silence

Guess we know now why Cobain's 'father' (allegedly his father) was such a big 'Queen' fan.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Queen_crest.png/532px-Queen_crest.png



Give Queen The Liabach Treatnent,
And Their Lyrics Take On A Whole New Meaning..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wwdOX19_ETI

Laibach has frequently been accused of both far left and far right political stances due to their use of uniforms and totalitarian-style aesthetics and also due to the Wagnerian influence found in some of their music,

They were also accused of being members of the neonationalism movement which reincarnates modern ideas of nationalism. When confronted with such accusations, Laibach are quoted as responding, "We are fascists as much as Hitler was a painter" . As Hitler was in his early life a painter, this reply is not an outright denial but rather entirely in keeping with the band's cultivation of ambiguity.

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8539/laibachwi2.jpg

Queen -One Vision
One man one goal one mission,
One heart one soul just one solution,
One flash of light yeah one god one vision

One flesh one bone,
One true religion,
One voice one hope,
One real decision,
Wowowowo gimme one vision

No wrong no right,
I'm gonna tell you there's no black and no white,
No blood no stain,
All we need is one world wide vision

One flesh one bone,
One true religion,
One voice one hope,
One real decision,
Wowowowowowo

I had a dream,
When I was young,
A dream of sweet illusion,
A glimpse of hope and unity,
And visions of one sweet union,
But a cold wind blows,
And a dark rain falls,
And in my heart it shows,
Look what they've done to my dream

Vision,
Give me your hands,
Give me your hearts,
I'm ready,
There's only one direction,
One world and one nation,
Yeah one vision

No hate no fight,
Just excitation,
All through the night,
It's a celebration wowowowo yeah

One one one

One flesh one bone,
One true religion,
One voice one hope,
One real decision

Gimme one night,
Gimme one hope,
Just gimme,
One man one man,
One bar one night,
One day hey hey,
Just gimme gimme gimme
Fried chicken

NWO/Antichrist Script...!!!

[hunkahunka]

Check out the following story , reveals that bus beheading killer Vince Li
was a night owl, every job he had was night work, from Walmart night-cleaning to newspaper night time delivery.
He used to disappear on bus trips suddenly , with no explanation to his wife of
where he was going or why. Sold his laptop to a kid only hours before
decapitating, mutilating, partially eating, and storing parts of his victim in
a plastic baggy.



'Please kill me,' pleads man accused in beheading murder
Warning: This story contains disturbing details released in court proceedings.
Mike McIntyre , Winnipeg Free Press
Published: Tuesday, August 05, 2008

PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE, Man. - He swayed back and forth, staring blankly at the floor and responding to a series of questions with audible grunts and sudden jerks of his head - up-and-down for yes, side-to-side for no.

The heavily-shackled man showed no visible reaction as the Crown read aloud some of the facts of his alleged crimes, even while some spectators in the packed courtroom erupted in gasps.

And then, quickly and quietly, he spoke for the first time.

"Please kill me," said 40-year-old Vincent Li, who is facing second-degree murder charges.

Provincial court Judge Michel Chartier had heard, and seen, enough.

Chartier agreed Tuesday with the Crown's request to order a forensic psychological assessment for Li, saying there appear to be serious mental health issues that could affect whether the Chinese immigrant is fit to stand trial for last week's decapitation killing of Tim McLean, 22, on board a Greyhound bus in Manitoba.

The unprovoked slaying of the Winnipeg carnival worker has made headlines around the world and prompted an outpouring of grief and outrage.

At the invitation of Chartier, Crown attorney Joyce Dalmyn revealed new details Tuesday about Li's background and the circumstances surrounding McLean's killing. Chartier wanted to know what Dalmyn's grounds were for seeking a forensic assessment. There was no publication ban.

Dalmyn told court that Li attacked a sleeping McLean for no reason as the Greyhound bus made its way down the Trans Canada Highway near Portage last Wednesday night, stabbing him as many as 40 times while 36 horrified passengers looked on.

He got McLean on the ground and then sat on top of him, in the aisle of the bus, stabbing away with a large hunting knife, court was told.

A passenger called 911 while the Greyhound driver pulled over at the side of the highway, allowing all the passengers to flee.

The driver then locked the bus with only Li and a mortally wounded McLean inside.

Police rushed to the scene and surrounded the bus. Officers watched in horror as Li began carrying around McLean's severed head and appeared to be taunting them with it, court was told.

Li said nothing to police, except telling them at one point, "I have to stay on this bus forever," said Dalmyn.

At one point, Li began cutting other body parts off and was even seen to consume some of them, she said.

There were audible gasps in the packed courtroom at this revelation, including from several members of McLean's family who later left court without speaking to reporters.

"He appeared to be focused on his victim. He did not appear to be drunk or high," said Dalmyn.

"This was a completely random attack. There's been no link established (between Li and McLean)."

There had been speculation from some members of McLean's family that people on the bus may have been doing ecstasy prior to the attack. No mention was made of drug use in court Tuesday.

Police elected not to storm the bus, and waited until Li smashed out a window and tossed a bloody knife and scissors towards them. Li then jumped from the broken window - cutting his hand on the shards of glass - and was arrested, said Dalmyn.

Police searched him and found several severed body parts, including an ear, nose and partial mouth, inside a plastic bag in his pocket, court was told.

Police tried to interview Li but he refused to make verbal responses, Dalmyn said. However, he did softly mutter that he was "guilty" at least four times, she said.

Dr. Frank Vattheur now has the task of meeting with Li and trying to form an expert opinion on Li's state of mind.

Their first meeting is set for Thursday. Vattheur is expected to file a report by the time Li next appears in court on Sept. 8.

If Vattheur decides Li isn't fit to stand trial, that could effectively end the case.

If Li is found fit to stand trial, the next question the court will have to address is criminally responsibility. Vattheur will submit an opinion on that issue as well.

Court was told Tuesday that Li's common-law wife, Anna, said the man previously spent four days in a psychiatric ward. RCMP are trying to confirm that and obtain a search warrant to seize patient records.

Dalmyn had no further details about the hospital stay, but said she believes it was in a province other than Manitoba and Alberta.

Li came to Canada in 2001. He lived in Winnipeg for several years before leaving his wife and moving to Edmonton.

He had been exhibiting "bizarre and unusual behaviour" in recent weeks and months which included taking sudden bus trips to various cities in Canada for no apparent reason, said Dalmyn.

As the Free Press reported this past weekend, a Winnipeg family and several members of the church Li attended tried to convince him to go see a doctor as recently as two years ago.

They had concerns he was schizophrenic, possibly paranoid schizophrenic. Li refused, then eventually left his wife behind in Winnipeg while moving to Edmonton where he worked in the automotive department at Wal-Mart and delivered newspapers and flyers

The last day he was seen at work was Monday - two days before the deadly assault. His wife told an employer he had an "emergency" in Winnipeg and was coming for a job interview.

Only hours before Li allegedly beheaded McLean, Li was reportedly sitting peacefully on a bench in Erickson, Man., haggling with a local teen over the price of his laptop.

The mother of 15-year-old Darren Beatty, Dorothy Beatty, said police seized a laptop belonging to the accused killer after Darren bought it from Li Wednesday morning - 150 kilometres away from, and only hours before McLean's gruesome death.

Dorothy Beatty said her son saw Li multiple times Tuesday and Wednesday - from discussing a severely discounted price for the laptop, then returning twice later to pay the man $60 in cash and getting the laptop's password.

Dorothy said her son was not threatened by Li's presence on a Main Street park bench in the idyllic 500-person town.

The laptop contained school schedules, job resumes, e-mails written in Chinese and innocuous nature photos, said Dorothy and Maurice Beatty, after the couple perused the laptop's contents to ensure no smutty X-rated material was there.

"The pictures were of planes and mountains, and I think pictures of B.C.," said Dorothy Beatty.

Stacey Morgan, McLean's close friend from B.C., was reported to be on the same bus as McLean. However, she said she flew home to Vancouver Island.

"He felt uncomfortable about planes," said Morgan, 18. "He said that more accidents happen on planes than they do on buses, which is really sad.

"He also said he would rather take a bus because you actually see what you're travelling through, instead of flying over top of it all."

Li has refused to speak with Legal Aid lawyer Randy Janis, who tried to meet with him on the weekend at the Remand Centre and again in Portage court on Tuesday.

Janis said Li is non-verbal and is responding through grunts and vigorous 'yes' or 'no' head shakes.

Chartier repeatedly advised Li to get himself a lawyer. Li responded every time by shaking his head in the negative.

"I strongly urge you to reconsider," said Chartier.

Li is being held in Winnipeg under suicide watch on 24-hour surveillance.

I am trying to find proof, but I have read that Li and his victim both lived on the same Winnipeg street at one time in the past.

[cheeb]

I Just Wrote About This,
But I Will Expand A Bit Here...
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/8379/busdq7.jpg

According to an RCMP report read aloud by Dalmyn, the suspect allegedly beheaded McLean and was later spotted eating the victim's flesh.

Body parts - an ear, nose, and part of a mouth - were also found in a plastic bag inside the suspect's pocket upon his arrest.

Dalmyn noted the suspect and the victim did not know each other, and the attack appeared unprovoked.

When he was asked by Mounties to leave the bus, the suspect was reported to have only said,

"I have to stay on the bus forever."

A witness told RCMP the suspect stabbed McLean between 20 and 40 times.

Li, who recently immigrated to Canada from China, lived with his wife in Edmonton prior to the attack.

He worked as a newspaper delivery man as well as at a Wal-Mart in the city.

Dalmyn said she received some information the accused may have previously been in a psychiatric institution for four days, but further details may be made available later.

Police are looking into information that Li may have spent as many as four days in a psychiatric facility prior to the attack, Dalmyn said.
The accused man's behaviour was "bizarre" in the months before the attack, she said, noting that he took bus trips to several Canadian cities for no apparent reason.

Before he boarded the Greyhound bus, Li sold his laptop to a 15-year-old Manitoba boy in Erickson for $60, the teen said Tuesday.

"He seemed like such a nice guy when I talked to him.
He was not mean or fidgety or anything.
He had, like, no emotion to him but he didn't seem like he was a very nasty guy.
He just seemed calm and normal," Darren Beatty said.

Beatty said the computer contained resumes with the name Vince Weiguang Li at the top.
There were also photos of fighter jets and Chinese women models.
The teen has since handed the computer over to police.

It was revealed in court Tuesday that Li came to Canada in 2001 and became a citizen in 2007.

"I have to stay on the bus forever."


http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4170/onthebuspi7.jpg

IN 1959, KEN Kesey, a graduate student in creative writing at Stanford University, volunteered to take part in a CIA MK ULTRA government drug research program at Menlo Park Veterans Hospital that tested a variety of psychoactive drugs such as LSD, which was legal at the time, psilocybin, mescaline, and amphetamine IT-290.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5137/nevertrustweblc2.jpg
Clowns, Lightening,Starfish And Masonic Checkerboard.

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This Prankster Even Tells You He Will Cut Your Head Off

Over a period of several weeks, Kesey ingested these hallucinogens and wrote of his drug-induced experiences for government researchers

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Masonic Cross And Heart...

In the early 1960s, Neal Cassady showed up to meet the famous author and became the most celebrated member of Kesey's fledgling group, the Merry Pranksters.


"I have to stay on the bus forever."


"YOU'RE EITHER ON the bus, or you're off the bus,"

became the metaphor for the Merry Pranksters and was repeated endlessly (you had to be there) on the long and now famous cross-country journey in the psychedelic bus, Furthur.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5782/feedyourheadjs3.jpg

Feed Your Head, Detached Heads,
Sign Of Silence- No Talk Trigger.....

After picking up Allen Ginsberg in New York City, they headed to Millbrook, New York to pay a visit to the other early promoter of LSD,
Timothy Leary.

[hunkahunka]

Wayne Morris:
It seems like some of these programmers also have done things deliberately to discredit any accounts coming -- afterwards -- in terms of the victims, like them dressing up like Santa Claus -- just being ridiculous ...
(remember the Korn album cover with the masked little girl and joint smoking santa ?)

http://www.superawesomewow.com/pics/kornalbum.jpg

So, in this case, they would be abusing some kid while dressed up as
Santa, with some other kid dressed up in a mask. If a very young child
were to report this, or remember it years later, and tell someone:
'Santa tortured me and raped me", it would be dismissed as a dream or
a delusion because it is so implausible and associated with a figure of
fantasy like Santa.

This also fits with yours or someone else's mention of abuse/trauma rituals being carried out on repeated holidays:
Now have another look at this:

http://musicaretro.castpost.com/nirvana%20-%20heart%20shaped%20box.mpg.jpg

[hunkahunka]

[SIZE="7"]"I have to stay on the bus forever."


"YOU'RE EITHER ON the bus, or you're off the bus,"

became the metaphor for the Merry Pranksters and was repeated endlessly (you had to be there) on the long and now famous cross-country journey in the psychedelic bus, Furthur.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5782/feedyourheadjs3.jpg

Feed Your Head, Detached Heads,
Sign Of Silence- No Talk Trigger.....


I get it. Li has been totally silent (no talk) since this happened,

refused to leave the bus and obsessed on remaining on the bus
forever (you're either on the bus or you're off the bus)
and was obsessed with riding Greyhound buses.
How does the 'feed your head' command come into it?
Maybe the whole verse from the song holds a clue:

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said:
"Feed your head
Feed your head
Feed your head"

it is a really creepy verse, the 'white knight talking backwards' reminds
me of the part that Soulja posted about controller parents forcing children
to learn to write backwards. And the verse says basically, "when the Red
Queen says you are to be decapitated, feed your head."
It doesn't seem to make sense. Feed your head?
It's almost like a command to the victim to feed their head to the Queen when she demands it be done.
It reminds me of the constant refrain that occult ritual demands that
victims 'permit' their violation on some level.
just speculating here....and I might have another interpretation on it too:
Is the Queen the 'head' honcho, the leader of the victim, or head of the group, therefore the victim is being commanded to 'feed your leader', as in 'feed your head' , 'feed your master'?

[hunkahunka]

"Collar that Dormouse!" the Queen shrieked out. "Behead that Dormouse! Turn that Dormouse out of court! Suppress him! Pinch him! Off with his whiskers!"
—Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland


"But what did the Dormouse say?" one of the jury asked.
"That I can't remember," said the Hatter.
—Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland

The title of John Markoff's new book is What the Dormouse Said (subtitle: How the '60s Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry), so—literal-minded fact-check freak that I am—I felt compelled to research this dormouse question.

As anyone with even the slightest pretense of knowledge of 20th Century popular culture knows, it was singer-songwriter-giclee artist Grace Slick of Jefferson Airplane, in her song "White Rabbit," who attributed the advice "feed your head" to the dormouse of Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland. Or else she didn't. Whether Slick really meant to put these words in the dormouse's endangered little mouth is ultimately a question of punctuation, an arcane art probably never fully mastered by any singer-songwriter-giclee artist. Slick may have meant:

Remember what the dormouse said:

Feed your head.

or she may have meant:

Remember what the dormouse said.

Feed your head.

which is something else altogether. In any case, Lewis Carroll's dormouse never said "feed your head." The question of what that fictional Muscardinus arvellanarius said arises explicitly in Chapter 11 of Alice in Wonderland, where it is explicitly left unanswered. In the story itself, that is. But there's nothing (other than logic and proportion) stopping anyone from Googling the (public domain, web-posted) text, and so I am prepared to answer the question: What did the dormouse say?

Mostly "treacle," it turns out, with an impressive run of "twinkle."

and

"Of course, of course; just what I was going to remark myself."
—The Dormouse, Alice in Wonderland




The Dormouse never said 'feed your head.'
I personally always interpreted the line 'feed your head' as an exhortation to expand one's mind
with knowledge. Some thought it was urging people to do LSD .
The Mad Hatter is 'forgetting what the dormouse said', so the singer is urging the listener
not to make the same error of being forgetful, to not be like the mad hatter. ? ?
Reminds me of the programming parents who refuse to feed the kids in the restaurant,
but instead feed them information, and force them to 'remember it'.

[cheeb]

"Collar that Dormouse!" the Queen shrieked out. "Behead that Dormouse! Turn that Dormouse out of court! Suppress him! Pinch him! Off with his whiskers!"
—Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland


"But what did the Dormouse say?" one of the jury asked.
"That I can't remember," said the Hatter.
—Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland


The Dormouse never said 'feed your head.'
I personally always interpreted the line 'feed your head' as an exhortation to expand one's mind
with knowledge. Some thought it was urging people to do LSD .
The Mad Hatter is 'forgetting what the dormouse said', so the singer is urging the listener
not to make the same error of being forgetful, to not be like the mad hatter. ? ?
Reminds me of the programming parents who refuse to feed the kids in the restaurant,
but instead feed them information, and force them to 'remember it'.

Historicaly
"Let them eat cake!"

Marie Antionette...
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4422/marieantoinettekoninginue9.jpg

The origin of many phrases in English are unknown. Nevertheless, many people would say that they know the source of this one. It is widely attributed to Marie-Antoinette (1755-93), the Queen consort of Louis XVI. She is supposed to have said this when she was told that the French populace had no bread to eat

Marie Antoinette was cruely treated during her final days of captivity. Her best friend, the Princess de Lambelle, was killed and her severed head was put on a pike and paraded in front of the Queen.

Her children (Marie Therese and Louis XVII) were taken from her. Louis XVII was subjected to abuse by the family's jailers and later died, supposedly of Tuberculosis and malnutrition. Marie Therese, her firstborn daughter was the only family member to survive.

Antoinette followed her husband to the guillotine on October 16, 1793. She was executed without proof of the crimes for which she was accused. She was only 37 years old.

Biblically

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John The Baptiste..

"And I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." (Rev. 20:4)

[hunkahunka]

very interesting article on beheading story

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/dark-curse/

"Heightened awareness of decapitations has occurred in the last few days due to the incidents in Brazil, Dubai, Greece, and, of course, the bus event in Canadaduring the showing of The Legend of Zorro). Also, please note earlier The Mask of Zorro features Zorro’s/Diego’s brother’s beheading. In that Zorro movie, the decapitation is done by a sadistic, psychotic Texian Army Captain named Harrison Love.

There remains no explanation of why the name “Badger” became the code word given to suspect Vincent Li of Edmonton, Alberta, by the law enforcement officers."

[cheeb]

Marie Antionette...
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4422/marieantoinettekoninginue9.jpg



Did You Notice,
Even In The "Reign Of Terror"
The Butterfly And Fleur De Lis Motif Were In Use...

[hunkahunka]

Did You Notice,
Even In The "Reign Of Terror"
The Butterfly And Fleur De Lis Motif Were In Use...

you are right, good eye for detail. I would surely have missed it.
thanks for pointing that out, its very interesting. You picked up
on these details that probably 99% would overlook.

[cheeb]

Cheers Bro/Sis,
I Ain't Even "Awakened "Yet
Just doing A Bit Of Research And Seeing Patterns Emerging..!!!

:)

[hunkahunka]

this is an interesting video that gets into a bit of the Royal bloodline
and its connection to Skull n' Bones, Bohemian Grove, etc.
Seeing as this thread is drawing so many views, I thought it might
be prudent to include this here, for those who may not be familiar
with all of this:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113&ei=BteaSIj1EoTK-wHVtsAu&q=skull+and+bones+rituals&hl=en

[hunkahunka]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/newcd2.jpg

the tree as symbol for bloodline? just like a tree bloodlines have different branches. or maybe kabbalistic tree of life ? tied into programming.

and eve, genetic engineering/royal genome project ? female carrier of bloodline ?

baby as 'forbidden fruit'? apple symbolizing cannibalism?
cannibalizing the fruit of the tree of life: baby eating

always wondered where the term for young homosexual males
came from: "fruits"
there is even a gay leather band in Phantom of the Paradise called 'the Juicy Fruits'
and of course 'Beef'
inside joke? secret references to cannibalism?

[brown velvet]

Marie Antoinette...
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4422/marieantoinettekoninginue9.jpg


http://www.fernr2000.com/dioramas/addamsfam1.jpg http://www.fernr2000.com/dioramas/addamsfam2.jpg
http://www.fernr2000.com/dioramas/addamsfamwed.jpg This is my newest diorama (http://www.fernr2000.com/dioramas/dioramas.html) which is more of a family gathering than true diorama. Barbie(Morticia) and Ken(Gomez) are still attached to their box but their family members are added to the grouping. There are three pics:1)the whole group, 2)Cousin Itt, Thing, Pugsly and the lion and 3)Wednesday with her Marie Antoinette doll.


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/wednesdaymarieadamsfamily.gif Marie Antoinette - Wednesday Thursday Addams (Lisa Loring) the somber young child of eccentric millionaire Gomez (John Astin) and Morticia Addams (Carolyn Jones) was often seen playing with a headless doll named Marie Antoinette during episodes of THE ADDAMS FAMILY/ABC/1964-66. Marie Antoinette was named after the noblewoman who lost her head in the guillotine during the French Revolution. Reportedly, her famous last words were "Say, isn't that me over there?" Wednesday's mother, Morticia had a doll named Anne Boleyn when she was a child. TRIVIA NOTE: The real Marie Antoinette was beheaded on October 16, 1793; Anne Boleyn, the second wife of Henry VIII of England was beheaded on May 19, 1536.

wiki more... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wednesday_Addams)
In Charles Addams's cartoons, Wednesday and other members of the family had no names. When the cartoons were adapted to the television series The Addams Family (1964), he was asked to provide names for the characters, and came up with the name "Wednesday", based on the well-known nursery rhyme line, "Wednesday's child is full of woe".

Wednesday is originally a pale, dark-haired, grim-looking little girl with a fascination with death and the macabre. She is explicitly stated to be six years old in the series' pilot episode. In the 1960s Television series, she is significantly more sweet-natured, although her favorite hobby is raising spiders; She is also a ballerina. Wednesday's favorite toy is her Marie Antoinette doll, which she had guillotined herself and proudly shows to visitors. In one episode, she is shown to have several other headless dolls as well. She also paints pictures (including a picture of trees with human heads) and once writes a poem dedicated to her favorite pet spider, Homer. Wednesday is deceptively strong; she is able to bring her father down with a judo hold.




here... (http://eggmercantile.blogspot.com/2007/04/heather-louise-at-egg-mercantile.html)

http://bp3.blogger.com/_KdBcWERkuAk/Rhwzcyeu4TI/AAAAAAAAABs/E7UbMb6nVms/s400/HL.jpg

Styles range from all manner of Marie Antoinette dolls to Ninja Sheep and Pocket Kitteez.

artwork from here... (http://studio.junodoran.net/?cat=52)

http://studio.junodoran.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/marieantoinette2.jpg
(studies for the head of Marie Antoinette as childhood toy)
http://studio.junodoran.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/marieantoinette.jpg
as a child, the only person whose sense of humour not only matched mine but even surpassed it was my cousin Beta. one of our favourite games, when they weren’t about boys, was to play with a doll’s head, throwing it at each other with great violence. being hit by the head always caused a mix of laughter and screaming. we used to call it Marie Antoinette.

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Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula by Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler

LIGHT & COLOR

E.C. Prophet claims she is Marie Antoinette. (One of the first Illuminati programs that this author ran into when working with programmed multiples was Marie Antoinette programming.)


brown.

[hunkahunka]

Alice in Chains band members are said to very frequent customers at the Rainbow Bar & Grill

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http://www.luckmedia.com/gerina/images/img5.jpg
Gerina Di Marco rocks the Rainbow Bar & Grill in Las Vegas

http://www.luckmedia.com/gerina/images/img6.jpg
Alice In Chains' drummer Sean Kinney meets Gerina Di Marco

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/bb/0c/0431124128a068e901d18010.L.jpg
Alice In Chains album: Dirt

http://img3.nnm.ru/imagez/gallery/0/1/3/8/a/0138a9ba194cd9cf7b8cd63aff1f3851_full.jpg
Alice in Chains album: Nothing Safe

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs18/300W/f/2007/213/c/e/Alice_in_Chains_by_stabstabstab.jpg

http://991.com/newGallery/Alice-In-Chains-Live--Unreleased-296967.jpg
Alice in Chains album: Live and Unreleased
(think about this image for a moment: the baby is born live, and unreleased_
ie: in chains, mk project)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3153/2282031884_88c018cd95.jpg?v=0
Alice in Chains album: Rooster (note the Vietnam-war trauma imagery)

[hunkahunka]

Hells Angels associate rockers Motorhead also known to
frequent Rainbow Bar and Grill:

Lemmy Kilminster of Motorhead (self-described 'King' of the Rainbow Bar & Grill)
Enters The Rainbow Bar and Grill:

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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e93/garceli/motorhead20clr20logo.gif
Born to lose?

http://www.durhamhamc.com/images/deathshead/deathshead3.gif
Hells Angels death head logo

http://www.doubletake-media.com/movie_of_the_weak_hills_angels_comp.jpg



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Anyone ever notice all the 'born' references in biker culture:

Born to Run: Bruce Springsteen (I want to die with you Wendy on the street tonight in an ever lasting kiss)
Born in the U.S.A (Bruce Springsteen)
Born to Be Wild: (Steppenwolf biker anthem)
Born to Lose: (Motorhead logo)
Born to Kill: (Vietnam Special Forces motto)
and of course:
http://images.marketworks.com/hi/49/49296/born_ride_skull_red.jpg

Born for this, born for that.

Bred for this?

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n37/n188445.jpg

This all smacks of some secret birthing/breeding/seeding program, now
that I think of it.

[brown velvet]

http://wongablog.co.uk/wb-images/cousinit.jpg


Cousin Itt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_Itt)
Cousin Itt is a member of the fictional Addams Family in the 1964 television series. Unlike the other characters, Cousin Itt was not created by cartoonist Charles Addams, but by producer David Levy, though he did appear in Addams' cartoons from time to time after the TV series premiered.

Itt Addams is the cousin of Gomez Addams, and is arguably the most enigmatic member of The Addams Family. He is a short being whose entire body is completely covered with (and perhaps composed entirely of) hair. His hair color changed throughout the years but in the 1998 Addams Family TV series his hair color was blond. He usually wears sunglasses, a derby hat, and gloves. He speaks in a high-pitched gibberish language which the other members of the family can understand but is incomprehensible to others. The Addamses find nothing odd about Itt's appearance, and in one episode of the series, Gomez was surprised by the idea that other people could not understand Itt's speech.




http://electronicintifada.net/artman2/uploads/1/pennywise260.jpg
It (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_%28novel%29) is a horror novel by Stephen King, published in 1986. It is one of his longest at over a thousand pages. Considered one of King's most visceral and graphic works, It deals with themes which would eventually become King staples: the power of memory, childhood trauma and the ugliness lurking behind a small-town facade.

The novel is a story of seven friends from the town of Derry, Maine, and the non-linear narrative alternates between two different time periods.

(but Its most prominent form is that of a sadistic, balloon-wielding clown called Pennywise)



A person's greatest vulnerability to It is the simple belief in Its existence. This makes children a very easy target for It, as they are the most likely to believe in monsters. In order for It to attack nonbelievers or influence other events, It will manipulate humans it refers to as "dogsbodies." It attempts to kill them by manipulating a brutally sadistic and highly unstable schoolyard bully named Henry Bowers. Pursuing the Losers into the sewers, Bowers' two friends are killed by It and Bowers himself flees in terror. He is later committed to a mental hospital after Henry confesses to the child murders. The hospital, Juniper Hill, is also mentioned in the short story "Suffer the Little Children" in the collection Nightmares and Dreamscapes, and in the novels The Tommyknockers, Insomnia and Needful Things. In The Tommyknockers, It is also glimpsed (in its guise as Pennywise) by a character traveling through Derry. In Insomnia, It is obliquely referenced by the Crimson King, who mentions that shapeshifting is a "time-honored tradition" in Derry.

It apparently originated in a void containing and surrounding the Universe, a place referred to in the novel as the "Macroverse" (a concept similar to the later established Todash Darkness of the Dark Tower Novels). Its real name (if, indeed, It has one) is unknown—although at several points in the novel, It claims its true name to be Robert Gray—and is christened It by the group of children who later confront it. Likewise, Its true form is never truly comprehended. Its final form in the physical realm is that of an enormous spider, but even this is only the closest the human mind can get to approximating Its actual physical form. Its natural form exists in a realm beyond the physical, which It calls the "deadlights." Bill comes dangerously close to seeing the deadlights, but successfully defeats It before this happens. As such, the deadlights are never seen, and Its true form outside the physical realm is never revealed, only described as writhing, destroying orange lights. Coming face to face with the deadlights drives any living being instantly insane (a common H. P. Lovecraft device). The only known person to face the deadlights and survive is Audra Phillips.

Its natural enemy is "The Turtle," another ancient Macroverse dweller who, eons ago, created our Universe and possibly others. The Turtle shows up again in King's series The Dark Tower. The book suggests that It, along with the Turtle, are themselves creations of a separate, omnipotent creator referred to as "the Other". The Turtle and It are eternal enemies (creation versus consumption). It may in fact be either a twinner of or the actual one of the six greater demon elementals mentioned by Mia in Song of Susannah, as the Spider is not one of the Beam Guardians. It arrived in our world in a massive, cataclysmic event similar to an asteroid impact, in the place that would, in time, become Derry, Maine.

http://freakcastledesigns.com/images/pennywise_colorl.jpg

http://fc06.deviantart.com/images2/i/2004/08/b/b/pennywise_my_dancing_clown.jpg

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs30/300W/i/2008/055/0/d/IT_by_twisted_artist2.jpg

http://whygohome.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/pennywise-reason-to-believe2.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000A2H85I.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg


brown.

[hunkahunka]

ttp://www.303rdbg.com/427newton2.html

http://www.303rdbg.com/303logo2.gif

Crew Formation and Flight to England:
Captain Newton's Crew was formed in May 1944 at Rapid City Army Air Base, South Dakota

http://www.303rdbg.com/427newton2.jpg
GEORGE C. NEWTON CREW - 427th BS
B-17G Queenie #42-97281 GN-Q
(crew assigned 427BS: 17 Aug 1944 - photo: 30 Dec 1944)
http://www.303rdbg.com/303rdbga.gif

Massive annual Hells Angels rally in Sturgis, South DAKOTA, just north of
RAPID CITY , which attracts upwards of 500,000 to the region every August.
http://www.sturgis-sd.gov/scorimages/mainstreetnightblur.jpg
http://www.steppenwolf.com/wolf2/images/sturgis03/rapid_city_sturgis_map2.jpg
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=sturgis+&sll=44.08068,-103.230286&sspn=0.169927,0.32135&ie=UTF8&ll=44.211741,-103.123169&spn=0.678198,1.2854&z=10&om=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgis_Bike_Rally
http://www.turtletrack.org/Art/Maps/RapidCitySD.gif

[hunkahunka]

Check out this video interview of homosexual cannibal Tobias Schneebaum, with whom Mick Jagger travelled to New Guinea, who talks about his documentary "Keep the River on your Right"

about living with gay cannibalistic tribes in New Guinea.

(fast forward to: Tobias Schneebaum at 39:30)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFZd3C6q8Yo
*******

This on another homosexual cannibal, Robert Berdella, who had an entire collection of occult masks and artifacts:
apparently from both Egypt and Southeast Asia:


Auction of Killer's Art Collection Canceled
]http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...752C1A96E948260


SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: November 22, 1988

LEAD: The auction of the personal belongings of Robert A. Berdella, a convicted murderer, was canceled Sunday because one individual is negotiating to buy the entire collection of art and other valuables, the auctioneer said.
The auction of the personal belongings of Robert A. Berdella, a convicted serial killer, was canceled Sunday because one individual is negotiating to buy the entire collection of art and other valuables, the auctioneer said.

Earlier auctions of thousands of artifacts from Mr. Berdella's art collection and occult store, Bob's Bazaar Bizarre, were successful, said Gary Ryther, the auctioneer, but he refused to say how much money was raised.

The money is expected to go toward Mr. Berdella's legal fees.

Mr. Berdella's eclectic collection contains items from ancient Egypt and Rome to India and Southeast Asia.
http://www.dvdverdict.com/images/covers/bazaarbizarre.jpg

check out this trailer for a film about occult homosexual cannibal
Robert Berdella (Bazaar Bizarre) :

(click on the page to start the trailer video)
video:
http://www.pathfinderpictures.com/mov/bazaar.html

http://www.savagecinema.com/ritesburialbig.jpg


some bizarre facts:

Hillside Strangler Ken Bianchi was a biker with a tattoo that said 'satan's own mc'
http://rocwiki.org/Kenneth_Bianchi

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080302/britain-jagger-plot/images/39a953dd-ea0d-4281-961c-065d64ac1399.jpg
Sir Mick Jagger with his Hells Angels security guards

check out the trailer for the 1969 film 'Nam's Angels':
http://images.blockbuster.com/is/amg/dvd/cov150/drt400/t434/t43419z2z46.jpg

http://www.trailerfan.com/movie/nam_angels/trailer



Arthur Shawcross was a Vietnam vet who killed and ate prostitutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnRmGcuDeO8...ted&search=

Both Shawcross and BTK killer Dennis Rader were involved in Operation Phoenix during the Vietnam War.
Berdella was employed as a 'drug counsellor' in Kansas City.

Tobias Schneebaum served as a radar repairman for the U.S. Army
during World War II
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTobias_ Schneebaum&ei=8GsKR9btBKfkiwHh063ICQ&usg=AFQjCNH1jb0BM-pp6AE0VI14XKJDDz04cw&sig2=rX5_hSO3aYDSLSIyyUlIEQ
and later worked as a Merchant seaman on shipping lines operating between Korea and Japan.

He became interested in New Guinea after hearing of the disappearance of Michael Rockefeller in Papua Indonesia and rumors that Rockefeller had been killed by cannibals.

[hunkahunka]

http://www.pick-up-lines.info/pirate_pick_up_lines.jpg
http://www.easleys.com/ProductImages/hats/49405thum.jpg
http://images.birthdayinabox.com/biabthumb/PirateHat.jpg
http://img20.imagevenue.com/loc1037/th_02444_goldenmask3_122_1037lo.jpg (http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_02444_goldenmask3_122_1037lo.jpg) http://img124.imagevenue.com/loc1095/th_02446_goldenmask4_122_1095lo.jpg (http://img124.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_02446_goldenmask4_122_1095lo.jpg) http://img132.imagevenue.com/loc535/th_02448_goldenmask5_122_535lo.JPG (http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_02448_goldenmask5_122_535lo.JPG)
http://img140.imagevenue.com/loc237/th_01392_pirate1_122_237lo.jpg (http://img140.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_01392_pirate1_122_237lo.jpg)http://img25.imagevenue.com/loc961/th_01392_pirate2_122_961lo.jpg (http://img25.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=01392_pirate2_122_961lo.jpg)

Note the images above of golden masks and pirate hats
and then note the similarity of the images below, of indonesian cannibals in their 'golden mask' makeup and cannibalistic ritual garb.

[hunkahunka]

http://img159.imagevenue.com/loc1128/th_00825_cannibal_122_1128lo.JPG (http://img159.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=00825_cannibal_122_1128lo.JPG)
http://img174.imagevenue.com/loc390/th_00830_golden_mask_122_390lo.jpg (http://img174.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=00830_golden_mask_122_390lo.jpg)
http://img109.imagevenue.com/loc1131/th_00831_goldenmask2_122_1131lo.JPG (http://img109.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=00831_goldenmask2_122_1131lo.JPG)

Is it possible that these tribesmen are reenacting the rituals and cannibalism visited upon them in ancient times by ancient travelers with golden masks and strange hats? Could their cannibalism have been learned from cannibalistic foreign visitors, who fed upon the inhabitants of their lands? Could this date back as far as the Egyptian mariners and pharoahs and golden death mask rituals?
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/images/eyes.jpg

[hunkahunka]

Brown velvet , this one is just for you:


http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/501869/2/istockphoto_501869_absolutely_venice_carnival_iv.j pg

http://www.leics.gov.uk/venice_carnival_beaks.jpg

http://www.dccomics.com/mad/media/downloads/spys_800x600.jpg

http://xboxmedia.gamespy.com/xbox/image/article/605/605181/spy-vs-spy-20050418024812341.jpg

[hunkahunka]

Further evidence of how closely the whole Harley Davidson/ Hells Angels biker scene is linked to the military.
check out the Harley Davidson Military Sales Program (discount deliveries of Harley Davidson motorcycles for overseas armed services personnel)



http://www.paulsmilitarysales.com/harleydavidsonmilitarysales1.htm
Featured in this website is the Special Military Pricing for Harley Davidson Military Sales Program
the AAFES/NEXCOM program was authorized by the U.S. Congress in the mid-1960's. They make sure you are able to purchase a Harley Davidson , wherever you are stationed overseas, at a fair price, with convenience, choice, and exceptional service.



http://img190.imagevenue.com/loc387/th_00835_President_Clinton_and_Harley_CEO_Jeffrey_ Bleustein_122_387lo.jpg (http://img190.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_00835_President_Clinton_and_Harle y_CEO_Jeffrey_Bleustein_122_387lo.jpg)
President Clinton and Harley CEO Jeffrey Bleustein

Schwarzenegger in Motorcycle Accident (Harley Davidson)
Police: Schwarzenegger riding motorcycle illegally
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-01-10-schwarzenegger-license_x.htm


http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/images/1101070625_400.jpg
http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/buckle.jpg
http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pictures/june07/180607Skulls.jpg

http://www.diamondleathers.com/images/100_AL3242.jpg

http://www.hotleathers.com/images/products/PAAAAAEGPGKEDGAP.jpg

http://img186.imagevenue.com/loc567/th_01378_79-SKELETON-02_122_567lo.jpg (http://img186.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=01378_79-SKELETON-02_122_567lo.jpg)

[hunkahunka]

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/born-ride.jpg

http://www.fairyfrocks.com.au/images/Large/baby%20born%20rainbow%20with%20garland.jpg

http://www.toppun.com/Cool_Free_Stuff/Free_for_All/Free-Rainbow-Stuff/Free-Gay-Pride-Rainbow-Posters/Free-Gay-Pride-Poster-Born-Gay-Follow-The-Ray-Born-Straight-Refuse-to-Hate-450.gif

[hunkahunka]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3153/2282031884_88c018cd95.jpg?v=0


" Snuffing the Rooster "....Vietnam era army slang meaning : to kill or waste a bigmouth or narc or someone very unpopular for some reason......usually an officer...also used in the same context as " fragging "....Rooster was also a slang term used to describe american soldiers by the viet cong....ie....mercenary, stranger, etc......something to do with the americans landing in viet nam in the year of the Rooster as well....

" Fragging :. When one American killed another American, usually a superior officer or an NCO, the term "fragging" came into use. Although the term simply meant that a fragmentation grenade was used in the murder, it later became an all encompassing term for such an action. It is known that "fraggings" did occur during Vietnam, but the precise number is uncertain.

"During the years of 1969 down to 1973, we have the rise of fragging - that is, shooting or hand-grenading your NCO or your officer who orders you out into the field," says historian Terry Anderson of Texas A & M University. "The US Army itself does not know exactly how many...officers were murdered. But they know at least 600 were murdered, and then they have another 1400 that died mysteriously. Consequently by early 1970, the army [was] at war not with the enemy but with itself.

http://www.kangarooster.com/kangawhoster.html

.....the term is said to have originated in china from the description of an ancient ceremony which involved the snuffing out of sacred or ceremonial candles took place on the 9th day of every month in the chinese year of the rooster.........

[hunkahunka]

http://www.frankiesanchez.com/news/ufc_pride.jpg

http://www.yorkblog.com/mma/img/TUF1.jpeg

The U.S. Army/Air Force/ Marines sponsor UFC 'Ultimate Fighter' reality show with television ads

http://anthonyjohnson.info/db2/00174/anthonyjohnson.info/_uimages/Anthony-Marines-Website.jpg


http://ufcstore.seenon.com/img/product/catl/00014291-079519.jpg
UFC machine-gun T-shirt
http://ufcstore.seenon.com/img/product/catl/00003984-250758.jpg
UFC camouflage T-shirt


http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/ufc-13.jpg
The UFC fighting ring 'The Octagon'

http://oboerista.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/pentagon2.jpg
The Pentagon

http://http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=94185&rendTypeId=4

http://home.earthlink.net/~fwbull/cheerleader.jpg
Pride

[mcthompson2x]

baby as 'forbidden fruit'? apple symbolizing cannibalism?
cannibalizing the fruit of the tree of life: baby eating

always wondered where the term for young homosexual males
came from: "fruits"
there is even a gay leather band in Phantom of the Paradise called 'the Juicy Fruits'
and of course 'Beef'
inside joke? secret references to cannibalism?

What are you talking about? A secret reference to cannibalism? What about homosexuality is cannibalistic?

Or are you saying that young gay men were eaten at some point?

I'm confused. I guess I could see the terms being ironically used by the elite, I've never thought of where they come from before. I just assumed they were crude and idiotic.

[brown velvet]

http://www.durhamhamc.com/images/deathshead/deathshead3.gif
saw this and remembered some work I did a long time ago....
feel free to edit, have tried to keep it as non offensive as is possible, considering the subject matter. Wings.

A system (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wings) of rating sexual experience. Wings are awarded for certain acts (like in the Air Force etc.)

White Wings (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=White%20Wings)
In the wings system, these wings are awarded for having sex with a virgin. + several more variations, go look here, not going to put them all up on this post
http://www.fairywingsandthings.com/wingpics/ivorygolddragonfly5th.jpg

Brown (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Brown%20Wings) wings are an honour bestowed to a good chap who has had an*l sex with a female (human).
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3098/2312758686_e820466b57.jpg
here... (http://www.theholeintheuniverse.com/?p=17)
http://www.fairywingsandthings.com/wingpics/autumnnymph4th.jpg

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs17/300W/f/2007/188/b/6/Brown_Wings_by_Hild3.jpg
http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs28/i/2008/131/3/a/wings2__by_asheva.jpg

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs22/300W/f/2007/325/a/1/Autumn_Fae_by_Gild_a_Lily.jpg

red (www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Red%20Wings) wings
The ritual of performing c*******gus upon a woman in the midst of her period.

http://www.drwforever.com/photo-3768.jpg

http://alexrocha.com/db1/00080/alexrocha.com/_uimages/RedWings.jpg
http://fc08.deviantart.com/images/i/2003/46/a/2/Newborn_Wings.jpg
Artist's Comments
....on a freaky-lookin box...more weirdness.

http://www.pat-hay.co.uk/images/gallery/figure/Angel-Series_Red-Wings.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll165/TheHomelessPoet/Angel%20Pictures/RedWings2.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/Succubus_by_M1keN.jpg

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs24/f/2007/345/4/d/Order_Trigun_by_T_SLA.jpg
http://s.deviantart.com/styles/blank.png

Gold (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gold%20Wings) Wings
In the wings system these wings are awarded for your first g*lden shower.
gold / green
http://www.fairywingsandthings.com/wingpics/goldmint1th.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/The_Angelus_by_CyprithTheCat.jpg
http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs8/i/2005/348/7/2/Malachi___Send_me_an_Angel_by_caroldreamer.jpg

pink wings
in the advanced wings set this is getting both red and white wings at the same time.
http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs21/300W/i/2007/309/1/d/Konn_of_Pink_Wings_by_CaptainMorwen.jpg

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs29/f/2008/053/d/d/ddc84c992a1eabce.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Acid_Candy_and_Fairy_Tales_by_KikaD.jpg

http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs23/i/2008/009/9/4/Sweet_Wings_by_ExplodingIchigo.jpg

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs16/300W/f/2007/208/6/b/Becky___Cartoon_Fairy_LoliBrat_by_Stoikangel.jpg

purple (http://urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Purple%20Wings) wings
In the advance wings set this is awarded for having sex with a pregnant girl.

'angel writing' (- note, I have removed the words, it was a stylised 'angel' Emerald, if you recognise the writings like (p)runes or anything....? Let me know? thanks:))
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Purple_Wings_by_InvisiblePuppya.jpg
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs12/300W/i/2006/316/e/f/New_Wings_by_Amaroq38.jpg
Artist's Comments
Another strange fairy birth, this one from a cocoon like a butterfly waking in the new spring.

http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs11/i/2006/213/6/2/in_the_womb_by_Migratory_Coconut.jpg

black (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wings) wings
The Hells Angels used to have Black Wings also, The act of e**ing out a black woman. This would have to be varified from another member, for example by looking over the toilet cubicle.
http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs17/300W/f/2007/166/2/d/Bloody_Black_Wings_by_HanyoAlchemist780.jpg
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs15/f/2007/094/a/5/Azriel__by_emillie.jpg
Artist's Comments
This is Azriel. He was born to Anthony J. Crowley and Phulan of the Desert. Since he was little, he was neglected by his father and, though he struggled for the older male's approval, he failed to keep it for more than a couple years. He was born with wings, but he tore them from his back when they were broken and hacked-at by his father in the midst of a battle.
http://s.deviantart.com/styles/blank.png

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs12/i/2006/276/e/7/Now_you_know_by_Trixis.jpg
Artist's Comments
Because now you know that some birds are born with wings and other birds have to make wings by themselves.

A system (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wings) of rating sexual activity. The following colours are commonly used.

Pink - Sex with a white person
Black - Sex with a black person
White - Sex with a virgin
Red - Sex with a woman who is having her period
Brown - An*l sex
Green - Sex with someone who has an STD
Yellow - "Watersports"
Silver - Sex with an O.A.P
Blue - Sex with a dead person

http://www.glamboulevard.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/vic2.jpg

wings (www.fairywingsandthings.com/fairywings.html) site

silver
v.v big
http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs10/i/2006/107/d/5/Gothic_doll_by_Minxies.jpg



brown.

[brown velvet]

Brown velvet , this one is just for you:


http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/501869/2/istockphoto_501869_absolutely_venice_carnival_iv.j pg

hunkahunka,

gee, thanks?

brown.

[hunkahunka]

hunkahunka,

gee, thanks?

brown.

sarcastic sounding answer

I hoped that you'd notice the clown imagery here:
http://xboxmedia.gamespy.com/xbox/image/article/605/605181/spy-vs-spy-20050418024812341.jpg

and the similarity of the traditional Venetian 'plague masks' to the once popular Spy vs. Spy' characters.

seems to be some possible masonic imagery here , with the chessboard black vs.white theme, possible reference to the 'black nobility?'
Or am I just reaching here ?
http://www.dccomics.com/mad/media/downloads/spys_800x600.jpg

This thread seems to have oddly burnt itself out so suddenly.

[hunkahunka]

What are you talking about? A secret reference to cannibalism? What about homosexuality is cannibalistic?

Or are you saying that young gay men were eaten at some point?

I'm confused. I guess I could see the terms being ironically used by the elite, I've never thought of where they come from before. I just assumed they were crude and idiotic.

I was thinking of 'fruits' in terms of the mind control gay programming that we have been discussing in this thread. The Illuminati may refer to these people as their 'fruits' , as in reference to the expression ' the fruits of our labors', or the 'produce' that they create through mk.

Slaves in general, including mk slaves, are considered by the Illuminati to be raised produce and /or 'livestock'. Some produce/livestock are raised as workers, some raised for food, and some raised as pets. Babies born and bred (genetically selected?) for gay programming would be considered produce.
Hence the term 'fruits'.

check out the lyrics to the song 'In Bloom', by Kurt Cobain
imo, this song may be about kids bred for mk projects:ie: a look at how drug addicted families spend their every dime on drugs and have nothing left over for food.

Lyrics to the Nirvana song 'In Bloom', from the album 'Nevermind':


Sell the kids for food
Weather changes moods
Spring is here again
Reproductive glands

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what means
knows no what it means
when I say yeeeaaahhh

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

We can have some more
Nature is a whore
Bruises on the fruit
Tender age in bloom

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say yeeeaaahhh

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
knows not what it means
knows not what it means and I say yeeeaaah
-
"sell the kids for food": some poor people sell their children to whoever wants them (for mk).
because they need to eat, and all their money is going toward drug addiction.

"weather changes moods": they , mother, might be depressed about selling the kids, but spring always returns again, and she can reproduce again, ie: replace them by having sex in the spring.

"we can have some more" , imo, means, they are selling their children, but they can always have some more kids (replace those sold) , and need the money, so let them go. There's more where that came from.

"nature is a whore": they can make money on nature, similar to raising and selling animals, are harnessing and perverting nature's process of reproduction , for money.

"bruises on the fruit": means the parents consider their own kids to be just damaged produce,
to be sold into the market

imo, this song is about how mk slave families are starved into submission, into selling their kids,
ie: a look at how drug addicted families spend their every dime on drugs and have nothing left over for food.

[miss_splitfoot]

...or it could be about Dylan Carlson, & also taking the piss out of the people who sing along to Nirvana songs when they don't understand the politics behind grunge.

[hunkahunka]

http://img159.imagevenue.com/loc1128/th_00825_cannibal_122_1128lo.JPG

http://img109.imagevenue.com/loc1131/th_00831_goldenmask2_122_1131lo.JPG

Huli folklore tells stories of fighting cannibalistic giants:

http://tinyurl.com/2r4j5o

Track 10 is sung by Giame, a local pastor in Yaluba, and presents a quintessential Huli tale of a male Cinderella figure—Darama Ginu—who becomes transformed into a hero by a beautiful woman. They overcome cannibalistic giantsand beget the major ethnic populations of the Huli, Duna, Dugube (peoples on the Papuan Plateau)

The indigenous people of New Guinea are characteristically short in stature by western standards, so foreign cannibals large in stature by our standards, could appear to them as giants.

[hunkahunka]

Cobain was obviously terrified of CPS getting their hands on his
daughter Frances Bean Cobain.
When journalists called attention to his wife's drug use, he made
death threats in an attempt to prevent a witch hunt against
Courtney.

death threats Kurt made:


From 'Come As You Are': "As soon as I get out of this fucking hospital, I'm going to kill this woman [Lynn Hirschberg] with my bare hands. I'm going to stab her to death. First I'm going to take her dog and slit its guts out in front of her and then shit all over her and stab her to death...She'd better hope to God that someday I don't find myself destitute without a wife and baby, because I'll fucking get revenge on her. Before I leave this earth, she's going out with me."


Phone message left on Victoria Clarke's answering machine: "If one single solitary, tabloidesque or negative comment or statement in regards to my wife shows up in your book, I will gladly devote every fucking waking hour of my life to make yours unlivable. If that doesn't work, well, let's not forget that I work for the Mafia."
***



Those are pretty extreme threats on the surface, but if Cobain had been
put through MK traumatic ritual abuse as a baby, maybe the above
quotes can be considered in quite another context. He may have felt
that the very life of his baby was in danger, or at the very least, in danger
of falling into the hands of the satanists.


http://pop.wizbangblog.com/images/2008/01/francis_bean_the_new_face_of_c/8a21tvq.jpg

[rixxmixxhell]

While looking information on Alanis Morissette, i see this post by someone from this site...http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?p=4107

I thought it funny as i was looking for information that others may of talked about regarding Monarch etc.....slightly of topic but thought it interesting that people out there know about this stuff, you know.theres alot of persons who are awake to this sort of thing.

Rick

Copy from site (bottom of page)

(Regarding Alanis M. Relationships and ex husband new girl!?)

'''Hello dear ladies and gentlemen!
I would like inform you that Scarlett Johansson (actress) actually is a clone from original person, who has nothing with acting career. That clone was created illegally by using stolen biological material. Original person is very nice (not d**n sexy), most important - CHRISTIAN young lady!
I’ll tell you guys more, those clones (it’s not only one) made in GERMANY - world leader manufacturer of humans clones, it is in Ludwigshafen am Rhein, North Bavaria, Mr. Helmut Kohl home town. You can not even imaging the scale of the cloning activity. But warning! Helmut Kohl clone staff 100% controlling all their clones spreading around the world, they are very accurate with that, some of them are still NAZI type disciplined and mind controlled clones, so be careful get close with clones you will be controlled as well. Think wise..
Apparently those clones are very actively shown on your website. This is just a warning, because original person is not happy about those images and video, rumors and etc., in that way it would be really nice if you try slow down that ”actress” career development on your magazine, original Scarlett’s parents will really appreciated that. Please do that, do not wait until FBI agent give you a call with questions. Please remember that original family did not authorize any activity with stolen biological materials, no matter what form it was created, it all need to be return back to original family control to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. If you ignore warning after this message, there can happen law suit..
Original Scarlett is not engage, by the way!
Her close friend Serge G.
P.S.
H.R. 534, the Human Cloning Prohibition Act of 2003, was introduced to the U.S. House of Representatives on February 5, 2003. After discussion, it was passed on February 27 by a vote of 241-155. It now moves on to the Senate for consideration. This bill makes it unlawful for any person or entity to perform or participate in human cloning, or to ship or receive embryos produced by human cloning. The penalties are imprisonment of up to 10 years and fines of $1 million or more.
These now join other nations as diverse as Norway, Australia, and Germany, which had already added cloning for any purpose to their criminal code. And in Germany where it carries a penalty of five years imprisonment they know a thing or two about unethical science.'''

================================================== =======

http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/Alanis_Morissette_1_2.jpg

Lots of hearts on necklace thingamabob. Mean anything????

~(I still like Alanis:o)~

[rixxmixxhell]

F**k me that Frances Bean looks like her DAD!!!!!!

Freaky man looking girl and man lookign mum too!! :eek: lol.....

[amethyst]

While looking information on Alanis Morissette, i see this post by someone from this site...http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?p=4107

I thought it funny as i was looking for information that others may of talked about regarding Monarch etc.....slightly of topic but thought it interesting that people out there know about this stuff, you know.theres alot of persons who are awake to this sort of thing.

Rick

Copy from site (bottom of page)

(Regarding Alanis M. Relationships and ex husband new girl!?)

'''Hello dear ladies and gentlemen!
I would like inform you that Scarlett Johansson (actress) actually is a clone from original person, who has nothing with acting career. That clone was created illegally by using stolen biological material. Original person is very nice (not d**n sexy), most important - CHRISTIAN young lady!
I’ll tell you guys more, those clones (it’s not only one) made in GERMANY - world leader manufacturer of humans clones, it is in Ludwigshafen am Rhein, North Bavaria, Mr. Helmut Kohl home town. You can not even imaging the scale of the cloning activity. But warning! Helmut Kohl clone staff 100% controlling all their clones spreading around the world, they are very accurate with that, some of them are still NAZI type disciplined and mind controlled clones, so be careful get close with clones you will be controlled as well. Think wise..
Apparently those clones are very actively shown on your website. This is just a warning, because original person is not happy about those images and video, rumors and etc., in that way it would be really nice if you try slow down that ”actress” career development on your magazine, original Scarlett’s parents will really appreciated that. Please do that, do not wait until FBI agent give you a call with questions. Please remember that original family did not authorize any activity with stolen biological materials, no matter what form it was created, it all need to be return back to original family control to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. If you ignore warning after this message, there can happen law suit..
Original Scarlett is not engage, by the way!
Her close friend Serge G.
P.S.
H.R. 534, the Human Cloning Prohibition Act of 2003, was introduced to the U.S. House of Representatives on February 5, 2003. After discussion, it was passed on February 27 by a vote of 241-155. It now moves on to the Senate for consideration. This bill makes it unlawful for any person or entity to perform or participate in human cloning, or to ship or receive embryos produced by human cloning. The penalties are imprisonment of up to 10 years and fines of $1 million or more.
These now join other nations as diverse as Norway, Australia, and Germany, which had already added cloning for any purpose to their criminal code. And in Germany where it carries a penalty of five years imprisonment they know a thing or two about unethical science.'''

================================================== =======

http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/Alanis_Morissette_1_2.jpg

Lots of hearts on necklace thingamabob. Mean anything????

~(I still like Alanis:o)~

That's an interesting bit of info. there about Scarlett Johansson, as she played a clone who was reaching her "past due date" in the 2005 movie The Island.


And here's the wikipedia picture of Scarlett posted with her heart shaped necklace.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1518/220pxscarlettjohanssonits9.jpg

And P.S: In the movie, her character's name was Jordan Two Delta/Sarah Jordan....she had two character names, because one was a clone.

[emerald]

Feng shui masters turn 'wheel of fortune' in Singapore's favour

SINGAPORE (AFP) - Officials in Singapore have changed the direction of the world's biggest observation wheel because feng shui masters said it was taking good fortune away from the city, a report said on Saturday. he Singapore Flyer, which opened earlier this year, had originally revolved so that it rose to face the business district and went down overlooking the sea, the Strait Times newspaper said.

However, masters of the ancient Chinese art of geomancy convinced the wheel's management to reverse it so that it was not taking fortune away from the city.

"A number of feng shui masters had approached us to tell us that the Flyer is on the perfect site to pick up the good qi (energy) flowing into Singapore, but it was going in the wrong direction," said Florian Bollen, the Singapore Flyer's chairman.

"The Flyer was going against the sun and taking fortune away from Singapore."

Bollen likened the change to the "completion of a perfect movie" to give a better story, but added that it cost the company a "six figure sum," the report said.

For visitors now riding one of the wheel's 28 air-conditioned capsules, their view starts with beaches and housing estates in the east and culminates with a vista of the business centre.

At 165 metres (545 feet), or 42 storeys, the Singapore Flyer is 30 metres higher than Britain's London Eye, said builders Great Wheel Corp.

Despite being a modern city Singapore is a largely ethnic Chinese nation, where traditions still hold sway.

FEBG SHUI MY ASS:D!!!

[emerald]

That's an interesting bit of info. there about Scarlett Johansson, as she played a clone who was reaching her "past due date" in the 2005 movie The Island.


And here's the wikipedia picture of Scarlett posted with her heart shaped necklace.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1518/220pxscarlettjohanssonits9.jpg

And P.S: In the movie, her character's name was Jordan Two Delta/Sarah Jordan....she had two character names, because one was a clone.

Of course, its not available for all celebrities, but when we hear things like: "a new Marylin Monroe", "another James Dean", "another Madonna" etc, I think we, the awaken ones, we should think 2wice. Btw, when RENEE ZELLWEGGER became famous, it was said about her that she is a new SHIRLEY MCLAINE. And there is a resemblance between them 2, even their birthdays are close, 25 April, respectively 24 April; same was said about VIRGINIA MADSEN, at her debut, she is "a new GENE TIERNEY". The actresses look alike, how else...

[hunkahunka]

check out the masked dancers in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAnayUpbJYs

looks like more mk trauma imagery, sanitized for mass consumption
of course

note the stage name Alice Cooper
real name: Vincent Furnier (another French name)

http://bp2.blogger.com/_saieEC3FXnQ/Rtvm5amUWZI/AAAAAAAAAks/qp5oI9tt4XM/s400/Alice_Cooper_-_Welcome_to_my_Nightmare_-_Front.jpg
upside down pyramid, top hat, dragon flies instead of butterflies)

song from Alice Cooper's Welcome to My Nightmare album called

Cold Ethyl:

One thing I miss is Cold Ethyl and her skeleton kiss
We met last night making love under the refrigerator light
Ethyl Ethyl let me squeeze you in my arms
Ethyl Ethyl come and freeze me with your charms

One thing
No lie
Ethyl's frigid as an eskimo pie
She's cool in bed
Well she oughta be 'cuz Ethyl's dead

Ethyl Ethyl let me squeeze you in my arms
Ethyl Ethyl come and freeze me with your charms
Come on Cold Ethyl
Freeze me babe

One thing - it's true
Cold Ethyl I am stuck on you
And everything is my way
Ethyl don't have much to say

Ethyl Ethyl let me squeeze you in my arms
Ethyl Ethyl come and freeze me with your charms
Come here Cold Ethyl
What makes you so cold? Ooh so cold

Cold Ethyl
Cold Cold Ethyl
Cold Ethyl
Cold Cold Ethyl
Cold Ethyl
Cold Cold Ethyl
Cold Ethyl
Cold Cold Ethyl
If I live 'til ninety-seven
You'll still be waiting in refrigerator heaven
'cuz you're cool
You're on ice
Cold Ethyl
You're my paradise


ethyl alcohol is a component of embalming fluid

http://www.dio.net/pictures_cd/welcome_to_my_nightmare_us_front_big.jpg
clown paint

[hunkahunka]

http://bp0.blogger.com/_yIGpJazRPJQ/R6Ml2lkhxKI/AAAAAAAAAKo/dW3DvGE59sc/s400/the+strange+case+of+alice+cooper.jpg
A horrified Vincent Furnier is dragged into an ambulance by psychiatric personnel,
as the 'doctor', 'nurse Rozetta' , and a truckload of hidden ghouls await.

Makes you think twice about images like this. Notice the nurse 'silence' gesture

[hunkahunka]

seeing as we are on our way to unravelling the whole secret 'born to do this'
breeding program, take a look at this image:

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/080808/080808.html
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/080808/e20080808milkhill02.jpg

08/08/08
August 8 , 2008
On the eighth day of the eighth month of the eighth year of the twenty first century the number eight appears in one of the fields of Wiltshire.
The number eight is a very meaningful number to the Chinese as it is also to many religions of the world.
The sheer scale of this formation is a marvel to behold. Many people were walking among its many circles in awe and wonder.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/080808/IMG3168.jpg
scale of the thing: the specs on it are people


Figure of 8 formation and its big. It was cold, it was windy and wet but it was worth the wait. Didn't see the masters at work thou. Formation appears to be a figure of 8 with tear drops. To the best of my knowledge there was no one on Milk hill during the night watch. !!! Its interesting to see in the Cherhill formation the eights again. Eight swirls forward and eight swirls backwards. I am glad this date is coming to an end.

the site desribes it as 'a figure eight with tear drops'.
Consider that the circles could each symbolize an ovum.
Maybe the 'tear drops' are not teardrops, but spermatazoa?

[amethyst]

Of course, its not available for all celebrities, but when we hear things like: "a new Marylin Monroe", "another James Dean", "another Madonna" etc, I think we, the awaken ones, we should think 2wice. Btw, when RENEE ZELLWEGGER became famous, it was said about her that she is a new SHIRLEY MCLAINE. And there is a resemblance between them 2, even their birthdays are close, 25 April, respectively 24 April; same was said about VIRGINIA MADSEN, at her debut, she is "a new GENE TIERNEY". The actresses look alike, how else...

Hmmm....I always thought that "a new Marilyn Monroe" or "another James Dean" meant that they were the "next" so and so "big" star.....but this whole cloning stuff is so bizarre that it could be possible....... according to Fritz Springmeier, it (cloning) has been going on for quite some time.

[soulja]

note the stage name Alice Cooper
real name: Vincent Furnier (another French name)

http://bp2.blogger.com/_saieEC3FXnQ/Rtvm5amUWZI/AAAAAAAAAks/qp5oI9tt4XM/s400/Alice_Cooper_-_Welcome_to_my_Nightmare_-_Front.jpg
upside down pyramid, top hat, dragon flies instead of butterflies)


note how his left hand (left hand path) makes the M-sign while placed on his chest. that's a rather clear ''I'm brotherhood'' message/signal.

as for the dragonfly, came across a band called 'my brightest diamond'

the band is spearheaded by Shara Worden
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/SharaMagSmall.jpg

granddaughter of an Epiphone-playing traveling evangelist, fathered by a National Accordion Champion, and mothered by a classical organist. Having a family of musical wanderers who migrated across the US every few years, the landscape and the musical influences were constantly changing. Spanish tangos, Sunday morning gospel, classical and jazz were the accompaniment to her home life. Her first song was recorded at age three and by age eight she was studying piano and performing in community musical productions.

Picking up an opera degree at the University of North Texas, Shara immersed herself in the songs of Purcell and Debussy. After college, she moved to New York City to simultaneously continue her opera studies and pursue her songwriting ambitions, releasing two albums with her band Awry. Shara frequented downtown clubs such as Tonic, Knitting Factory, and The Living Room, catching performances by Antony & the Johnsons, Nina Nastasia, and Rebecca Moore and inspired by their use of strings, Shara began studying composition with Australian composer Padma Newsome (of Clogs/The National). After the breakup of Awry, Shara assembled a coterie of musicians to accompany her with bass and drums, strings, wine glasses, and wind chimes and thus the sound of My Brightest Diamond was formed.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/WesMaskHandMed.gifhttp://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/WesMaskFaceMed.gif


This year Diamond releases their sophomore album, A Thousand Shark’s Teeth, originally meant to be a more classical, string quartet affair, the work slowly evolved and refined itself over a period of six years. Influenced by artists such as Tricky, French composer Maurice Ravel and Tom Waits, in addition to the star exploration themes of Anslem Kiefer's paintings, the imaginary landscapes of photographer Robert ParkeHarrison, films by Jean-Pierre Jeunet, and Alice in Wonderland, A Thousand Shark’s Teeth is a musical snowglobe that sparkles each time you touch it. The songs, whose themes broach intimacy, kisses by moonlight, laundry, lost friendship and more, marry vast instrumentation – marimbas, harps, clarinets, French horns, rabid guitars, vibraphones to name a few – to create an unequaled amalgamation of style and color. A Thousand Shark's Teeth will be released in the US on June 17th, 2008 on Asthmatic Kitty Records.

one of their songs is called 'dragonfly'
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/DragonflySarahMed.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/DragonflyBW.jpg

still trying to 'decode' the dragonfly symbol (used in MK context) as i doubt it's simply a substitute for the Butterfly. maybe it's referring to a more exclusive background (bloodline) seeing as the dragon is often used to symbolize royal bloodlines.

another option imo would be a sort of tagging system used by slaveowners to identify their ''property'' like branding is done to horses, etc..

it would make sense in a way and i remember cathy o'brien said that slaves connected to what she referred to as 'order of the rose' sported a rose tat.

the Queen Song ''Black Queen'' come to mind with lines such as
The black queen tattoos all her pies

btw pies that kinda reminds me at hunkas thoughts on ''fruits'' as used in MK coded language.

[soulja]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/2663827539_2b6170bc24.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/080808/e20080808milkhill02.jpg

August Underground?

take a look at the above figure. The '8' above appears to actually symbolize the merging of two spheres.

The two large spheres edges are both made up of small circles, and where the two spheres merge could conceivably depict or diagram the process of conception.

A comparison of the upper sphere with the lower sphere reveals that
the spermatazoa 'fertilize' the upper sphere from within the inside of the upper sphere, while the spermatzoa 'fertilize' the lower sphere from outside the lower sphere.

My theory is that perhaps this crop circle depicts the genetic merging of two worlds.

The upper sphere is our world, our internal genetic 'sphere'.
The lower sphere is an outside world, or external genetic 'sphere' ,that we are merging with,
with the external spermatzoa of that world representing the new
genetic information.

[brown velvet]

This feature allows the starfish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish) to hunt prey that is much larger than its mouth would otherwise allow. Starfish are able to regenerate lost arms. A new starfish may be regenerated from a single arm attached to a portion of the central disk.

Some species of starfish have the ability to regenerate lost arms and can regrow an entire new arm in time. Most species must have the central part of the body intact to be able to regenerate, but a few can grow an entire starfish from a single ray. Included in this group are the red and blue Linckia star. The regeneration of these stars is possible due to the vital organs kept in their arms.
red
http://www.divernet.com/data/images/707_maldives_redstar.jpg
http://www.canreef.com/ftotm/jan07/star.jpg
orange
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h116/FishieNut/Reef%20Pics/20070204_0882.jpg
http://www.petsolutions.com/images/100/175050.jpg
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/photopost/data/503/Orange_linkia.JPG
http://www.reefhotspot.com/store/images/Orange.Linckia.jpg
yellow
http://people.hws.edu/Mitchell/oz/images/Starfish3.gif
http://opencage.info/pics/files/200_7740.jpg Banana skin...?:rolleyes:
green
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/8931/yenireef291vj6.jpg
http://www.uhhmop.hawaii.edu/jgunderson/photogallery/photo7234/linkia.gif
blue
http://www.centralpets.com/critter_images/fish/saltwater_inverts/SWI_0001860_20020902175004.jpg
more starfish here... (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/81411123_ba34bf30cf.jpg?v=0)
purple
http://www.aquacon.com/images/purplelinkia2.jpg
http://www.thepetstop.com/adminpics/22553.jpg
pink
http://www.reefforum.net/photopost/data/502/Linckia_leiaster_de_Anthony_Calfo.jpg
http://user.aol.com/cebrezzie/aquarium/star-pink250.jpg
burgandy
http://www.f3images.com/IMD/EducationCenter/Inverts/1304154.jpg
spotted
http://hawaiimarinelife.com/images/uploads/SLSeastar.jpg

The Serpent (http://www.aquaticsworlduk.com/product.php?productid=16154&cat=0&page=1) Sea Star of the genus Ophioderma has a central, 5-sided disc with five banded, scaly arms. Depending upon the species and locale, the color can range from maroon, to orange, to green. The central disc can also have variable markings.
It does well in an aquarium if provided with ample hiding places and plenty of room to roam. Even though it is a nocturnal animal, it will eventually learn to come out during the day to eat.
http://www.aquaticsworlduk.com/images/P/serp.jpg
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http://www.chrisrea.biz/banana5.jpg


http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2003/12/16/bananaportrait3.jpg

http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PFO3470.jpg

http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs8/i/2005/277/4/2/Star_by_nati88.jpg
bananas in pyjamas (http://www.abc.net.au/children/bananas/characters/b1b2_2.htm)

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/bananasinpyjamas01.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/bananasinpyjamas02.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/bananasinpyjamas03.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/bananasinpyjamas04.jpg

Stellar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_classification) classification

Class B
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/33/Pleiades_Lanoue.png/180px-Pleiades_Lanoue.png

The Pleiades open star cluster with many bright B stars

Class B stars are extremely luminous and blue. Their spectra have neutral helium, which are most prominent at the B2 subclass, and moderate hydrogen lines. Ionized metal lines include Mg II and Si II. As O and B stars are so powerful, they only live for a very short time, and thus they do not stray far from the area in which they were formed. These stars tend to cluster together in what are called OB associations, which are associated with giant molecular clouds. The Orion OB1 association occupies a large portion of a spiral arm of our galaxy and contains many of the brighter stars of the constellation Orion. They constitute about 1 in 800 main sequence stars in the solar neighborhood[9] —rare, but much more common than those of class O.

Examples: Rigel, Spica, the brighter Pleiades

Spiral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_arm#Spiral_arms) arms
Spiral arms are regions of stars that extend from the center of spiral and barred spiral galaxies. These long, thin regions resemble a spiral and thus give spiral galaxies their name. Naturally, different classifications of spiral galaxies have distinct arm-structures. Sa and SBa galaxies, for instance, have tightly wrapped arms, whereas Sc and SBc galaxies have very "loose" arms (with reference to the Hubble sequence). Either way, spiral arms contain a great many young, blue stars (due to the high mass density and the high rate of star formation), which make the arms so remarkable
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Rigel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigel) (pronounced /ˈraɪʤəl/) (β Orionis, beta Ori) is the brightest star in the constellation Orion and the sixth brightest star in the sky, with visual magnitude 0.18. Although it has the Bayer designation "beta", it is almost always brighter than Alpha Orionis (Betelgeuse).

In physics and astronomy, H-alpha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-alpha), also written Hα, is a specific emission line created by hydrogen at 6562.8 Angstroms.

The H-alpha line saturates (self-absorbs) relatively easily because hydrogen is the primary component of nebulae, so while it can indicate the shape and extent of the cloud, it cannot be used to accurately determine the cloud's mass. Instead, molecules such as carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, formaldehyde, ammonia, or methyl cyanide are typically used to determine the mass of a cloud.

Rygel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rygel#Rygel)
Dominar Rygel XVI (called simply Rygel) was once the royal ruler of the Hynerian Empire. He is known for being selfish, and collects anything valuable. He uses the word "yotzah" for "jackpot", when he come across treasures of great value. Rygel was one of two regular puppet characters on the television science fiction series Farscape.

Harvey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_%28Farscape%29#Harvey)

which Harvey is an invisible six-foot, one-and-a-half-inch tall rabbit that only the chronically inebriated Elwood P. Dowd can see. Harvey first appeared in "Crackers Don't Matter" and had his last appearance in The Peacekeeper Wars Part 2.

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/spheres.jpg

http://jina.allevio.com/wp-content/Angus_Fairhurst_resize.jpg

Miss Chiquita (http://www.tvacres.com/admascots_misschiquita.htm) Banana - Female banana character (first drawn by artist Dik Browne) who wore a headdress of fruit and sang the trademark Chiquita Banana song (voice first provided by singer Patti Clayton) that began "Hello Amigo...I'm Chiquita Banana and I've come to say/You eat the banana in a special way/And when it's fleck with brown and has a golden hue/That's when bananas are the best for you...."

http://jimmy.thewhatwhat.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/osmiss50b.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif
flickr more... (http://flickr.com/photos/66195261@N00/56052551)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/162/356507755_657860f621.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p142/Jiavonna/906d.jpg

The Terry Twins (http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/f-chiquita-banana.html) in Chiquita Banana (1946)

The stereotype Inuit was pretty bad but it's nothing compared to the racist caricature in Chiquita Banana & the Cannibals (1947), which should be singular since there's only one cannibal, who talks like a cultured butler while boiling a white guy alive.

http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/filmimages/chiquita-cannibal.jpg

Chiquita Banana's Magic (1947) begins with the magician Professor Zoot doing the "saw a woman in half" trick on a stage. The girl screams hideously, jumps up still in the box, & runs away.

http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/filmimages/chiquita-magic.jpg

more MissChiquita (http://www.chiquita.com/CompanyInfo/MissChiquita.aspx)

http://www.chiquita.com/images/MissChiquita.jpg

starfish

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs18/300W/i/2007/216/a/3/starfish_by_Inkkie.jpg

http://s.deviantart.com/styles/blank.png

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs13/i/2006/353/2/7/Starfish_by_FairyRealm30.jpg
Artist's Comments
This is a portrait of the so adorable baby from: [link]
turned into a little mermaid this baby seems to be teething and has found a starfish to nibble on! Lots of colour, time and love put into this one. Enjoy!

So for anyone out there struggling to understand the links.... me too :) however, imo, as soulja keeps referencing, star fish are a prominent imagery, there must be a reason for this. If they are in ref to babies... the 'training' will be to 'spin' (a trauma) many others from the One, different colours, different newbies are produced, be that more personalities OR an embryo... (internalisation folks...) imagery, imbibed.... probably both, never forget that TRAUAMA is the key, the more despicable the images / acts the more automatic the response. Whole 'families' of 'starfish (babies) Eaten, damaged, sacrificed, the more trauma, the more efficient the victim becomes for the 'progger'


brown.

[hunkahunka]

the Queen Song ''Black Queen'' come to mind with lines such as
The black queen tattoos all her pies

btw pies that kinda reminds me at hunkas thoughts on ''fruits'' as used in MK coded language.

what a relief to see you back, great stuff!
another thought re: coded language, the term 'fairies'
used to describe feminine gay males.

http://www.thefairyline.com/fpdb/images/FairyIsabellaCard1_sm.jpg

the video for the Elton John song 'Someone Saved My Life Tonight' had a
central theme of a male angel/fairy character manifesting itself in scenes of horror.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1342/785988047_ddb9804ff7.jpg?v=0
picture captioned Rainbow Fairy: Paris Gay Pride parade, June, 2007 this guy has yellow fairy wings on


rainbowpridegifts.com
http://rainbowpridegifts.com/images/fairy11.gif
Item FAIRY11 - Trixie Fairy Tealight Holder
This lovely Fairy shows her pride by wearing her Rainbow Socks.
Price $13.95

http://www.girl.com.au/img/barbie_magicoftherainbow.jpg

http://thebluesite.com/images/gay_fairy_princes.jpg
http://img.tesco.com/pi/entertainment/DVD/LF/766366_DV_L_F.jpg
http://www.bevnet.com/images/reviews/fruitopia/fruitopia-grap.JPG

bbc.co.uk/birmingham/gay_village/pride_2004/gallery6/images/fairy.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/birmingham/gay_village/pride_2004/images/pride_gallery_350x40.gif
http://www.bbc.co.uk/birmingham/gay_village/pride_2004/gallery6/images/fairy.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/2137821/2156517/2178970/2179051/FBI-QC-2.jpg
see the above spiral pedophile symbol?

have a closer look at the Fruitopia label:

http://www.bevnet.com/images/reviews/fruitopia/fruitopia-grap.JPG[/IMG]


Fruitopia
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Fruitopia is a fruit flavoured, non-carbonated drink introduced by The Coca-Cola Company in 1994 and targeted at teens and young adults. According to New York Times business reports, it was invented as part of a push by Coca-Cola to capitalize on the success of Snapple and other flavored tea drinks.

The most common flavor of this drink is "Strawberry Passion Awareness." This flavor is available at drink fountains as well as McDonald's as Coca-Cola pushed this drink to market in many places. Fruitopia vending machines have also appeared in some schools and college campuses, in addition to, or as a replacement to soda. After Fruitopia was introduced in the United States, TIME magazine named it one of the Top 10 New Products of 1994.

Other flavors included The Grape Beyond, Tangerine Wavelength, Citrus Excursion, Fruit Integration, Pink Lemonade Euphoria, Lemonade Love & Hope, Raspberry Psychic Lemonade, and Beachside Blast. These flavors were available in the United States. A much wider array of flavors was available in the UK. In a drive to remake the brand and remarket it as more relevant to Generation X, Coca-Cola dropped several flavors in 1996 and added and renamed others.

Fruitopia had rather unusual commercials despite the simplicity of the product behind them. They featured animation using imagery of fruit arrayed in colorful, spinning kaleidoscope patterns. This was accompanied by idealistic aphorisms reminiscent of hippie poetry of the 1960s, such as might be found in advertisements which ran in underground press newspapers of the period. Background music on several of the ads was provided by The Muffs, Kate Bush, and the Cocteau Twins also contributed.

There is a beautiful person
living inside you!
Please share a Raspberry Psychic Lemonade
with him or her.

Fruitopia was discontinued by Coca-Cola in the United States in 2001, being replaced by the Minute Maid moniker. A similar situation occurred by PepsiCo, who replaced their own Fruitopia clone, Fruit Works, with the Tropicana moniker. However, Fruitopia Strawberry Passion Awareness is still available in the United States (branded as Minute Maid) in McDonalds fountain machines nationwide.

Fruitopia juice is still available in Canada in a wide variety of flavours, and has recently been released into Australia. The ingredients in Canadian and former American Fruitopia drinks are not the same and they also taste(d) different; the United States version has chemicals/preservatives added. In 2007, Coca-Cola GmbH Germany released a new fruit juice line under the name Fruitopia by Minute Maid.

Popular Culture

In The Simpsons episode "Lisa's Sax," a TV ad says: "Well sir, we got a scorcher today! And to cool off, nothing beats Fruitopia! The iced tea brewed by hippies but distributed by a heartless, multi-national corporation!" In the later episode "They Saved Lisa's Brain", guest star Stephen Hawking says "I wanted to see your utopia, but now I see it is more of a Fruitopia."

A Fruitopia machine was briefly visible in the Sacred Heart Hospital cafeteria at the end of the April 10, 2008 episode of NBC's Scrubs. A Fruitopia machine is visible in the hallway of a Camden College dorm in the movie The Rules of Attraction, after character Lauren returns following the bathtub suicide scene. A Fruitopia machine is briefly visible in the office in the 1996 film Independence Day.

The Venture Brothers episode aired on June 8, 2008, The Doctor Is Sin, makes reference to Fruitopia.

[hunkahunka]

http://www.laurelfoodsystems.com/Images/Products/Fruitopia.jpg
Fruits with the urge to merge

incredible subliminals, cutups, etc. in Fruitopia ads:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5TlDg5BUTc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFAY8L8vcsc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iLIpU3Tf9A

do a youtube search on 'Utopia ad' to see all of the ads

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EKeRu2RiLJc/Rx_WI90cESI/AAAAAAAAAZ4/JL9cb02CxsM/s400/frutopia.jpg

http://www.usasoda.com/images/ccfruit1a.jpg

this one's just for you , Brown::)

http://www.sportogo.com/images/Fruitopia%20Hydro%20Bronc.jpg
also:
http://www.nrf.com/bookstore/cover.asp?id=13297

[hunkahunka]

Fruitopia is a product of the Coca-Cola company.

http://noctalis.com/shop/soldout/k_id_coke_4.jpg
Indonesian Coke can - 2007

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/122/297279167_5d3184e28e.jpg?v=0

http://bp2.blogger.com/_k0FuJmQ1Piw/RlBujeFj7yI/AAAAAAAAAkc/tkkh8sxAX4M/s400/feel_the_curves4.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4343/coke1ll.gif
coke ad subliminal

[hunkahunka]

http://www.collectiblesrus.com/misc/ccbtdis.jpg

http://www.ziggystshirts.com/pictures/item178-front347px.png

http://projects.olin.edu/ahs/HOT2004/PolarBears/COKESIGN.jpg
1885 ad for Coke 'syrup', back when it still contained cocaine

http://www.thebathtub.net/the_bathtub/images/2007/12/13/cocacola.gif

http://www.trojanhorseantiques.com/CocaColaIISoda.jpg

[brown velvet]

this one's just for you , Brown::)


Hey Hunka...?


this one was for you..... :p

http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/filmimages/chiquita-cannibal.jpg


just went to look at the fruit ads on youtube, wowowowow, talk about trippy maaan, off to go buy a truck load for my inner s/he. Never seen such blatant DID (MPD) 'speak' in my life before... Every single one of those 'kaleidoscope eyes' style hypnosis' will trigger every single HIP 5 scorer (Control of Candy Jones) Right on up and out of it, off to do what ever the triggers do to the individual victims.


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/utopia02.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/utopia01.jpg Remain seated?

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/04%2008%2008/wonka01a.jpg 'See' nothing?

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Acid_Candy_and_Fairy_Tales_by_KikaD.jpg 'Say' nothing...?


brown.

[hunkahunka]

check out the butterflies, robot skulls, etc. here:
note: (entire image is stylized baby blue butterfly)

http://badbanana.typepad.com/weblog/images/2007/10/22/fruitopiawings.jpg

[brown velvet]

check out the butterflies, robot skulls, etc. here:
note: (entire image is stylized baby blue butterfly)

http://badbanana.typepad.com/weblog/images/2007/10/22/fruitopiawings.jpg

if green eyed babies are a message about having been born in to the MC family, maybe this image is a pale green? Signifying hours / days old? Targetting the very young? The 'inner / internalised' babies.


brown.

[hunkahunka]

http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/coke_robot_box1.jpg

http://internetsafetyadvisor.squarespace.com/storage/FBI.JPG

http://www.segagagadomain.com/dc-covers4/rainbow_cotton-f.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4875/tribute02az9.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://bp0.blogger.com/_yIGpJazRPJQ/R6Ml2lkhxKI/AAAAAAAAAKo/dW3DvGE59sc/s400/the+strange+case+of+alice+cooper.jpg
A horrified Vincent Furnier is dragged into an ambulance by psychiatric personnel,
as the 'doctor', 'nurse Rozetta' , and a truckload of hidden ghouls await.

Makes you think twice about images like this. Notice the nurse 'silence' gesture

'the Strange Case of Alice Cooper' is the live video of the 'From The Inside (Mad House Rock)' Tour filmed in San Diego April 9th 1979.



In 1978 Cooper committed himself to a psychiatric hospital for treatment of alcoholism, an experience chronicled on From the Inside, which includes some lyrics by Elton John’s songwriting partner Bernie Taupin and the hit “How You Gonna See Me Now”

Vincent Furnier was born in 1948. In 1978 he was 30 years old.

[mrguitarbear]

if green eyed babies are a message about having been born in to the MC family, maybe this image is a pale green? Signifying hours / days old? Targetting the very young? The 'inner / internalised' babies.


brown.

http://www.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/01/mkolsen.jpg

Mary-Kate Olsen , connected to the mystery surounding the death of Heath Ledger.

http://nynerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/olsen-twins-halloween.JPG

Nice butterflies girls !

[hunkahunka]

********

Tom: And Tex Watson testified in a court of law that you told him "go to the house that Terry Melcher used to live in and kill those people in the most gruesome way." A man that was once your associate said that of you and now you sit here and say that's not true, that's all make believe?

Manson: You've got a stone wall there, won't you take it down a little bit. Look here, I'll explain something to you.. Um, Tex took the witness stand, and this is record, and he said "I don't know whether I'm Charlie Manson or my mother" Tex didn't have his own mind one way or the other . He was balanced back and forth because I had already took his mind in another game down the road that I was playing with some Hell's Angels that you don't know nothing about and you probably never will know nothing about it. Because you would have to know those people to get in that thought, see. But there's different colors on different peoples backs doing different things. It's a different world.

[hunkahunka]

http://bp2.blogger.com/_saieEC3FXnQ/Rtvm5amUWZI/AAAAAAAAAks/qp5oI9tt4XM/s400/Alice_Cooper_-_Welcome_to_my_Nightmare_-_Front.jpg
note how his left hand (left hand path) makes the M-sign while placed on his chest. that's a rather clear ''I'm brotherhood'' message/signal.

this picture may have saved his life. He was 27 years old when this was made. Doesn't he look sweet, all dressed up, pleading for his life? "I'm one of you. Let me live past 27, please!"
If Cobain had joined up, maybe he'd still be alive.

[hunkahunka]

http://home.earthlink.net/~fwbull/mc_satan.jpg

http://reallyfunnypictures.co.uk/oddandweird/pics/23.02.06/gonetomarket.jpg

William Burroughs had one of his fingers cut off mysteriously.
Hells Angels cut this woman's toe off during torture:


Monday, July 16, 2007
Hells Angels To Blame For Five days of rape & Torture
A SENIOR Hells Angels bikie has been accused of leading a gang that raped and tortured a Melbourne woman in a cruel, five-day abduction.
The woman, 39, said she had spent seven years on the run from the gang after they dragged her into a car from a Coburg street in May 2000 and used her as a sex slave. "Michelle" has alleged a prime figure in the pack rapes was a senior office holder of the Hells Angels. "I thought they were going to kill me," she said. "They gave me two choices: a single bullet to the head if I was good or, if not, they would put me through the mincer and then feed me to the pigs." Despite her complaint to police in December 2001, the case and the alleged culprits have never been prosecuted. She believes up to 15 men raped and tortured her over five days. Michelle came forward about her brutal treatment at the hands of the Hells Angels after the CBD shootings on June 18. The trauma of the attack left her suicidal and in fear of her life.
In September 2004, Michelle, who went to police 18 months after the alleged offences, was awarded crime compensation of $7500. She still needs counselling. The tribunal was satisfied an offence occurred even though it could not be prosecuted. The Hells Angel accused of leading the assault is a member of the East County chapter, which is based in Craigieburn. This is the chapter where Collingwood footballer Alan Didak is believed to have been taken by accused CBD gunman Christopher Wayne Hudson. Hudson is not linked in any way to the allegations raised by Michelle. Since the alleged attacks, Michelle has lived at a secret location, changed her name, and has been too scared to have contact with her children.
In her statement to police, the former stripper says her ordeal began as she walked to the Coburg Leisure Centre and a group of men forced her into a car and drove her to a suite at one of Melbourne's top hotels. Michelle said she was paraded naked in front of at least six men and then taken to a bedroom and raped by the senior Hells Angel and another man. She told police that up to two days later she was moved to a yard in Melbourne's northern suburbs and chained and handcuffed in a large shed. There she lay naked on a concrete floor and was tortured and sexually assaulted for days.
Apart from the several sexual assaults, she stated she had a gun forced down her mouth, and was made to perform sex acts with a dog.
Her torture also included having a steel truck gate placed across her legs before being run over by a ute while her attackers laughed.
Her toe was later cut off with an angle grinder and sealed with a blow torch to stop the bleeding. Michelle said she was fed a base form of drugs while held captive, and she would never forget the men, their tattooed bodies and the AC/DC song played throughout her ordeal - Thunderstruck.
She said she was about to be killed when taken to a caravan park in Campbellfield, where she was rescued by a disgruntled gang member who took pity on her. The pair fled and eventually headed north in a stolen car before being caught by police. Michelle pleaded guilty to theft of a motor car, handling stolen goods, possession and use of cannabis and possession of a regulated weapon. The rapes and bashings left her with hepatitis C, a fractured skull, an injured spine and shoulder, no feeling in her left foot and cracked and missing teeth. She uses a walking stick because for months after the assault she was too scared to seek medical attention.
A psychological report states she suffers depression, post-traumatic stress disorder and could expect a short life span because of the assaults.
A police source with years of experience investigating outlaw bikie activity has told the Herald Sun that women kept captive in clubhouses were called a "house mouse" by gang members. He said women were usually chosen for pack rape after getting to know a member. Police are investigating if five members of the notorious Black Uhlans motorcycle gang-raped a woman, 19, at Lakes Entrance in February. Michelle said she did not know the men who assaulted her before her abduction, but she believed they knew she was a stripper. "I can't imagine any human being being in that frame of mind," she said. "I can't imagine Hells Angels Australia-wide all being like that.
"I haven't been able to have contact with my children. I can't live a normal life. "We (she and her partner) can't visit family whenever we feel like it. You start to get over the post-traumatic stress and then you see them on the news or making headlines for all the wrong reasons. "I live in fear on a daily basis. I have to watch where I go. I try never ever to be alone." No Hells Angels were charged over the alleged assaults. Michelle has made assertions of police corruption regarding officers who dealt with her case. The case was investigated by the police Ethical Standards Department and the Office of Police Integrity. But investigators found there was no evidence of corruption and there was not enough evidence for a successful prosecution.
The bikie accused of leading the attack on Michelle said through a worker at his company he was not interested in speaking to the Herald Sun.
source: http://tinyurl.com/54p76p

This Australian woman reported being abducted, held captive, and raped in 2000 by Hells Angels who threatened to put her through a mulcher alive and feed her to the pigs. This happened in Australia, but the interesting part is that this was reported to the police in 2001, and this would have been two years before Pickton was even charged with the 56 Hells Angels pig farm mulcher murders in Canada, so there would have been no question of whether these bikers were simply copying something that they heard about bikers (Pickton brothers/Hells Angels) doing in Canada.

Either this woman's report is true, and therefore feeding women to pigs is commonplace among biker gangs,or this woman has heard of the biker gangs in the B.C. Pickton case, and has
made up or embellished this story to implicate the Australian biker gang.

I would say the latter is unlikely, as the fact that the Picktons had such close
associations with the Hells Angels, and in fact were likely biker gangsters themselves, is not very well known, and has been largely concealed by media reports.

Another thing to consider here is that the crime was reported to the police in 2001, but there is no mention of when the woman reported that they threatened to feed her to the pigs.
If she specifically reported this threat of being to fed to pigs to the police in 2001, then it is impossible that she is simply fabricating a lie based on things she read on the internet about the Pickton case, because that would have been before Pickton was even caught and charged with the murders.


She told police that up to two days later she was moved to a yard in Melbourne's northern suburbs and chained and handcuffed in a large shed. There she lay naked on a concrete floor and was tortured and sexually assaulted for days. Apart from the several sexual assaults, she stated she had a gun forced down her mouth, and was made to perform sex acts with a dog. Her torture also included having a steel truck gate placed across her legs before being run over by a ute while her attackers laughed.
Her toe was later cut off with an angle grinder and sealed with a blow torch to stop the bleeding.

Even more parallels here: These Australian Hells Angels tortured her in a shed and the tools and car parts she was tortured with in the shed sound like a chop-shop or car salvage operation.

Sounds exactly like the Pickton farm:

http://www.thestar.com/article/255636
The brothers also ran a demolition and car-salvage business on the property.
"When Dave started dumping it got messy with cars and it was just a mess with old machines. It was just a junk collection in the end."


Holy hellhole, could there be any more similarities than this? Hells Angels
rape a stripper at a 'yard' on the edge of the city, in what appears to be
a car salvage/chop shop shed, and threaten to mulch her alive and feed her to
pigs:

Port Coquitlam? No. Australia!


http://www.flisted.com/wp-content/uploads/kat-von-d-1.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii303/gigglemyself2sleep/finsihedbannerwish.png
WISH FAIRY: I'll make your wish come true

http://www.marinesmc.com/ourcolors.gif

The Marines Motorcycle Club is open to all honorably discharged Marines, Corpsmen (FMF Fleet attached to a Combat unit with MOS of 8404) and currently active duty USMC. We ride American made motorcycles.

The Marines MC is dedicated to preserving the oath of honor we have all pledged in becoming Marines, the welfare of our brother Marines and the memory of all Marines who have passed before us. We wear a three-piece patch to signify our commitment to each other and to the honor of being the few who can rightfully wear the Scarlet and Gold.

Our club supports several charities and participates in a variety of events across the country. Nationally we host an annual Lupus Run as well as several regional Lupus events. Our national office also provides security and manpower for Special Olympics events, MMA events and support for other motorcycle club events.

The Marines MC is not affiliated with the United States Marine Corps, however (as former Marines) we do have their permission to utilize the Eagle, Globe and Anchor on our patch. The Marines MC patch, all information on this site and any use or reference to the Marines MC is forbidden without written permission. Any unauthorized use of the Marines MC name or patch ; will be dealt with swiftly and accurately by a former Marine Sniper. You can run but you will die tired.

[hunkahunka]

Hillside Strangler Ken Bianchi had a very high IQ, a motorcycle,
and a tattoo that read 'Satan's own MC', and then later became
a security guard. He and Angelo Buono allegedly bound and tortured ten young women
to death alone.

What does the MC really stand for?

Mind Controller?
Manchuran Candidate?

http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/lsd/marks.jpg


Bianchi was born in Rochester, New York. His biological mother was an alcoholic prostitute who gave him up for adoption at birth. He was adopted at three months by Frances Bianchi and her husband Nicholas Bianchi in Rochester.

Bianchi and Buono would usually cruise around Los Angeles in Buono's car and use fake badges to persuade girls that they were undercover cops. They would then order the girls into Buono's unmarked police car and drive them home to torture and murder them.

After being abused by both men, the girls would be strangled. Other methods of killing such as lethal injection, Electric shock, and Carbon monoxide poisoning had been tried by the killers but would be ultimately be rejected in favor of strangling.

Even while the girls were being killed, Bianchi applied for a job with the Los Angeles Police Department and had even been taken for several rides with police officers while they were searching for the Hillside Strangler.

In 1980, Bianchi began a relationship with Veronica Compton, a woman he met while in prison. During his trial, she testified for the defense, telling the jury a false, vague tale about the crimes in an attempt to exculpate Bianchi and also admitting to wanting to buy a mortuary with another convicted murderer for the purpose of having sexual relations with dead bodies. She was later convicted and imprisoned for attempting to strangle a woman she had lured to a motel in an attempt to have authorities believe that the Hillside Strangler was still on the loose and the wrong man was imprisoned. Bianchi had given her some smuggled semen to use to make it look like a rape/murder committed by the Hillside Strangler



Compton was released in 2003, and wrote a book on the penal system called
'Eating the Ashes'. She also had a website where she wrote:

At 23 years of age I was a very damaged and mixed-up girl. During those years of fierce inner-anguish and with the excessive use of drugs, especially cocaine, I became a dangerous and crazy person. My addiction drove me to actions that I regret and am ashamed to recall. My inner life was one of hell. There was no peace, no joy and no hope. I had so many secrets bottled up inside me I felt compelled to use any means possible to forget them. Terrible situations and desperation paved the road to my crime. There was no pleasure or excitement in becoming a criminal. My life was so bleak and plagued with fear that drugs seemed the only option in my coping with the inner terrors that surmounted my sanity.

Quite unexpectedly the drugs I had used as a coping method of self-medicaiton, to hold back the horrifying memories of past abuse, overwhelmed my best intentions. I became that which I loathed.

http://www.reddevilsmc-aalter.be/pix/red_devil_kop1.jpg

[soulja]

another Biker gang/club

http://www.illuminatimc.org/logo_USA.jpg

knowingly or not they use an MK trigger in their 'Logo', the hourglass, reminding slaves that their time is running out, interestingly they also use the skull.
the skull/hourglass combo (appropriate considering the message of the trigger) is also used in the Golden Compass movie where in one scene they zoom in on it.

so what's the deal with this club ? i mean besides the obvious brotherhood symbolism in their logo.
one of the requirements to join is that you're a full time government employee.

The Illuminati Motorcycle Club was formed by a group of government employees to honor and represents the hundreds of thousands of people serving in City, County, State, and Federal Agencies and Departments as full time employees. We reflect this diversity in our membership, which consists of people from many different facets of government.

Personnel representing Civil, Administrative, Military, Law Enforcement and others are welcome to join with us in creating a close-knit community of motorcycle riders who are also in government service.

We are an international club with chapters in the United States and Europe.
http://www.illuminatimc.org/who.php


their code of law has 13 articles btw ;)

[hunkahunka]

http://www.gehenna.com/sounds/mcsatan.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp2/ugotthelook/images/mc_hammer.jpg
MC Hammer

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/halfhumanhalfmachine/rad2.jpg

[hunkahunka]

Not for the squeamish:

video:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7763544717134347095&ei=TnGeSJ-2GIeW-QHQwYEU&q=Aghori&hl=en
directly related link:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9842124/from/RL.4/

[soulja]

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii303/gigglemyself2sleep/finsihedbannerwish.png
WISH FAIRY: I'll make your wish come true

fairy, starfish, spiral candy, this one brings them all together.


http://www.cgfocus.com/images/moviereviews/PansLabrynith/Fairy.jpg
in Pan's Labyrinth, it was a fairy (send by Pan) who showed Orphelia the way to the Labyrinth/Underworld. (accessed by a spiral staircase btw, part of programming imagery and internal Monarch world)

then there's Tinker Bell, probably the most famous fairy of them all.
part of Peter Pan programming.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/Fairies_Cover-Deutsch.jpg

some more fairy examples,

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/the_fairies_fun.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/n147205.jpg
''Rainbow'' ''Magic'' aka Mind Control ?


then there are those who believe themselves to be fairies (apart from the gay dudes :D)
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/679468.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/cover-front-300.gif


Fairy Magic - 3 Wishes by Karen Kay with music by Michael Tingle H. A guided meditation journey with the faeries

http://www.karenkay.co.uk/images/item-cd-big-fairymagic.gif

Fairy Magic 3 Wishes - A guided meditation journey. Allow the magical healing powers of the faeries to gently heal you during this guided meditation journey by Cornwall's Faery Lady, Karen Kay. Meet with the faery queen who will grant you 3 wishes for the highest good of all. The enchanting and gentle fairy flute, is played by Barbara Meiklejohn-Free, to the gently background music of Michael Tingle. This is the third and latest meditation CD by Karen Kay.

she likes butterflies too
http://www.karenkay.co.uk/images/helaingwithspiritguide250.gif

[soulja]

fairy wings look just like butterfly wings, in an MK context a butterfly is code for a monarch slave, so imo fairies are the same. some alters might even believe to be fairies (are programmed to)

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/2546248870046801554qrKXtM_ph.jpg
chained collar wearing ''butterfly''

fairy
http://www.davidgoughart.com/images/colllector.jpg
looking at the symbol on the guys chest, i think i've seen that one before.

http://www.utlm.org/images/masonictemplearticle/thecraftanditssymbols_p12.jpg

more works from the same artist
http://www.davidgoughart.com/images/diviners1.jpg
http://www.davidgoughart.com/images/purity.jpg

different artist, same general theme
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8450/morganenchantededgefade8ms.jpg

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/4055/kittyfaerie6uz.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5961/faeriefake7iu.jpg

[hunkahunka]

CocaCola company loves subliminals. This Fruitopia can , if you
look at it, looks like one big face on the front. You can see
a little heiroglyph stick man on the can , with one eye.
If you take another look , you can see a big version of the
little guys head, with two i's dots in the word 'Fruitopia' literally forming eyes and a down-turned mouth
formed by the line under the letters of Fruitopia, with a
thin neck from his head, leading down to the extra large
lettering in the word OZ. Shake gently before
experiencing the grape beyond, (its all totally natural),
legs splayed body,
neck leading to vessel containing fluid.

http://www.usasoda.com/images/ccfruit1a.jpg
also compare the mk spiral on the top right side of the Fruitopia can above,
to the mkspiral in the DreamCast logo here:

http://www.segagagadomain.com/dc-covers4/rainbow_cotton-f.jpg

[soulja]

check out this subliminal
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff177/salviaforme/mariosubnew1.jpg

Look at each word starting from the top line. now look at the stars underneath the letters of each word. starting at the top, what do the letters spell ?

''Ur Mr Gay''

found on this site, lots of examples there
http://www.eruptingmind.com/what-are-subliminal-messages/

[hunkahunka]

http://www.laurelfoodsystems.com/Images/Products/Fruitopia.jpg
also check out the subliminals in this above image.
Smiling faces in the pineapple on the right, the mouth of one face forms the eye
of the next: all are blended visually: integration. Again the word OZ prominent.
plus a vaguely phallic looking apple with a green mouth in a flesh colored face above it.

[jayelowell]

i like this pichttp://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3330/freemasonryladdercm0.jpg

[kallista]

I Just Wrote About This,
But I Will Expand A Bit Here...
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/8379/busdq7.jpg

According to an RCMP report read aloud by Dalmyn, the suspect allegedly beheaded McLean and was later spotted eating the victim's flesh.

Body parts - an ear, nose, and part of a mouth - were also found in a plastic bag inside the suspect's pocket upon his arrest.

Dalmyn noted the suspect and the victim did not know each other, and the attack appeared unprovoked.

When he was asked by Mounties to leave the bus, the suspect was reported to have only said,

"I have to stay on the bus forever."

A witness told RCMP the suspect stabbed McLean between 20 and 40 times.

Li, who recently immigrated to Canada from China, lived with his wife in Edmonton prior to the attack.

He worked as a newspaper delivery man as well as at a Wal-Mart in the city.

Dalmyn said she received some information the accused may have previously been in a psychiatric institution for four days, but further details may be made available later.

Police are looking into information that Li may have spent as many as four days in a psychiatric facility prior to the attack, Dalmyn said.
The accused man's behaviour was "bizarre" in the months before the attack, she said, noting that he took bus trips to several Canadian cities for no apparent reason.

Before he boarded the Greyhound bus, Li sold his laptop to a 15-year-old Manitoba boy in Erickson for $60, the teen said Tuesday.

"He seemed like such a nice guy when I talked to him.
He was not mean or fidgety or anything.
He had, like, no emotion to him but he didn't seem like he was a very nasty guy.
He just seemed calm and normal," Darren Beatty said.

Beatty said the computer contained resumes with the name Vince Weiguang Li at the top.
There were also photos of fighter jets and Chinese women models.
The teen has since handed the computer over to police.

It was revealed in court Tuesday that Li came to Canada in 2001 and became a citizen in 2007.

"I have to stay on the bus forever."


http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4170/onthebuspi7.jpg

IN 1959, KEN Kesey, a graduate student in creative writing at Stanford University, volunteered to take part in a CIA MK ULTRA government drug research program at Menlo Park Veterans Hospital that tested a variety of psychoactive drugs such as LSD, which was legal at the time, psilocybin, mescaline, and amphetamine IT-290.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5137/nevertrustweblc2.jpg
Clowns, Lightening,Starfish And Masonic Checkerboard.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3405/jokerbeheading2gh0.jpg
This Prankster Even Tells You He Will Cut Your Head Off

Over a period of several weeks, Kesey ingested these hallucinogens and wrote of his drug-induced experiences for government researchers

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9026/atdiplomasm2hi2.jpg
Masonic Cross And Heart...

In the early 1960s, Neal Cassady showed up to meet the famous author and became the most celebrated member of Kesey's fledgling group, the Merry Pranksters.


"I have to stay on the bus forever."


"YOU'RE EITHER ON the bus, or you're off the bus,"

became the metaphor for the Merry Pranksters and was repeated endlessly (you had to be there) on the long and now famous cross-country journey in the psychedelic bus, Furthur.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5782/feedyourheadjs3.jpg

Feed Your Head, Detached Heads,
Sign Of Silence- No Talk Trigger.....

After picking up Allen Ginsberg in New York City, they headed to Millbrook, New York to pay a visit to the other early promoter of LSD,
Timothy Leary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Apocnow.jpg

Stay on the bus forever or never get out of the boat.

Apocalypse Now

http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o341/kallistasa/215px-Apocnow.jpg

The film was originally written in the late 1960s by John Milius, who would later direct films such as The Wind and the Lion, Red Dawn and Conan the Barbarian. Milius claims to have been inspired by his film professor's claim that no one had successfully adapted the book Heart of Darkness, despite attempts by such legendary directors as Orson Welles and Richard Brooks. Ironically, given that the finished film is seen as an anti-war movie, Milius, who is politically a right-winger, originally conceived the title as an answer to the leftist hippie slogan "Nirvana Now!" and his original screenplay includes several speeches by Kurtz extolling the virtues of combat and the warrior way

The movie features three beheadings one of the Chef by the Kurtz character. We then see the beheading of a bull intercut with that of Kurtz’s.
Kurtz is a special forces colonel who goes native during the Vietnam war, his programming breaks down.

The film fits into three ideas in this thread, the programming of people by government agencies, the fact that the film was the antithesis of Nirvana Now (that sounds like a Leary catchphrase) and the main characters name was Kurtz.

The illuminati pyramid is, itself beheaded but seemingly still ‘alive’. I have always considered this aspect representing off-world control.

[hunkahunka]

[SIZE="4"]ch was legal at the time, psilocybin, mescaline, and amphetamine IT-290.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5137/nevertrustweblc2.jpg
Clowns, Lightening,Starfish And Masonic Checkerboard.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3405/jokerbeheading2gh0.jpg
This Prankster Even Tells You He Will Cut Your Head Off



excellent posts, Cheeb


the movie Legend of Zorro was playing on the bus,
and Li enacts this bizarre Joker/'Merry Prankster' bus murder.

Another Batman parallel here is of course the mask in the movie
that was playing.

http://upload.moldova.org/movie/movies/l/legend_of_zorro/thumbnails/tn2_legend_of_zorro_1.jpg
http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2007/12/01.jpg

[brown velvet]

Fruitopia

US Food and Drug Administration: 98p-0724-c000011-vol1 here (http://www.scribd.com/doc/1437178/US-Food-and-Drug-Administration-98p0724c000011vol1)

fatfree.com (www.fatfree.com/archive/1998/dec/msg00062.html)

Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:22:15 -0500
Hi everyone,

I read the following in Canada's Nutrition Action Health Letter, and was
aghast! Thought it might be news to you, too:

The non-carbonated "real fruit beverage" Fruitopia really only contains 2
-3 tbs. fruit juice, 220 -250 cal., and 13 -15 tsp. of sugar. The label
gives no sugar numbers, no calories, and doesn't mention that some juices
contain cochineal. Cochineal? It's a red dye that's made from the bodies
of insects, and it's in the Berry Lemonade, Pink Lemonade Vision,
Strawberry Passion Awareness, and tangerine Wavelength flavours. Cochineal
has caused severe allergic reactions in some people.



This piece is titled 'O P E N Y O U R E Y E S'
'awareness' in the blurb? The hypnosis / lollipop trigger. Succulent, juicy fruit, seeds / eyes, a lot of apples for a strawberry drink :confused:
http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs7/i/2005/268/4/c/O_P_E_N_Y_O_U_R_E_Y_E_S_by_EXILEDPHOTOGRAPHY.jpg

O P E N Y O U R E Y E S

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Strawberry (http://www.dmbeatles.com/song.php?song=243) Fields Forever
Author: John Lennon; Lead vocal: John Lennon
Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.

Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.
It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out, it doesn't matter much to me.

Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.

No one I think is in my tree, I mean it must be high or low.
That is you can't you know tune in but it's all right, that is I think it's not too bad.

Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.

Always, no sometimes, think it's me, but you know I know and it's a dream.
I think I know I mean a 'Yes' but it's all wrong, that is I think I disagree.

Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hungabout.
Strawberry Fields forever.
Strawberry Fields forever.

There are so many things about this gif that bother me... strawberry, rose, deep red colour, glittery hypnosis, vine leaves, a gold spoon, a collar around the babies neck, no toes, no right leg or arm, silence trigger, blind.
And it shouldn't.
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/10%2008%2008/StrawberryPassionAwareness.gif

http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/167/7/4/Delicious_by_dan_STOCK.jpg
'delicious'

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/305/c/4/Little_miss_strawberry_by_lisieuxSHAN.jpg

cochineal
http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/images3/300W/i/2004/135/5/2/6_yrs_old.jpg

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs29/i/2008/061/9/d/Strawberry_Pi_by_Calypso8888.jpg This one is particularly interesting....Curly Pi and Polly Nomial (http://users.aol.com/fcas/curlypi.html)
I find this very clever and deeply disturbing. Maths AND 'clever' sexual violation?
Once upon a time (1/T), pretty little Polly Nomial was strolling across a field of vectors when she came to the edge of a singularly large matrix.

Now Polly was convergent and her mother had made it an absolute condition that she must never enter such an array without her brackets on. Polly, however, who had changed her variables that morning and was feeling particularly badly behaved, ignored these conditions on the ground that they were unnecessary, and made her way amongst the complex elements.

Rows and columns enveloped her on both sides. Tangents approached her surface; she became tensor and tensor. Quite suddenly two branches of a hyperbola touched her at a single point. She oscillated violently, lost all sense of direction and went completely divergent. As she reached a turning point she tripped over a square root which was protruding from the erf and plunged headlong down a steep gradient. When she was differentiated once more she found herself alone, apparently in a non-Euclidian space.

She was being watched however. That smooth operator, Curly Pi, was lurking inner product. As his eyes devoured her curvilinear co-ordinates, a singular expression crossed his face. Was she still convergent, he wondered. He decided to integrate at once.

Hearing a vulgar fraction behind her, Polly turned round and saw Curly Pi approaching with his power series expanding. She could see at once by his degenerate conic and his dissipative terms that he was bent on no good.

"Eureka" she gasped.

"Ho Ho" he said, "what a symmetric little polynomial you are. I can see you're absolutely bubbling over with secs."

"Oh Sir", she protested, "keep away from me, I haven't got my brackets on."

"Calm yourself, my dear," said our suave operator, "your fears are purely imaginary."

"i,i," she thought. "Perhaps he's homogeneous then."

"What order are you," the brute demanded.

"Seventeen", replied Polly.

Curly leered. "I suppose you've never been operated on yet", he said.

"Of course not," Polly exclaimed indignantly. "I'm absolutely convergent".

"Come, come," said Curly, "let's go off to a decimal place, and I'll take you to the limit".

"Never" gasped Polly.

"Abscissa" he swore, using the vilest oath he knew. His patience was gone. Coshing her over the coefficient with a log until she was powerless, Curly removed her discontinuities. He stared at her significant places and began smoothing her points of inflection. Poor Polly, all was up. She felt his digit tending to her asymptotic limit. Her convergence was gone for ever.

There was no mercy, for Curly was a Heavyside operator. He integrated by parts. He integrated by partial fractions. The complex beast even went all the way round and did a contour integration. What an indignity - to be multiply connected at her first integration. Curly went on operating until he was absolutely and completely orthogonal.

When Polly got home that evening her mother noticed that she was truncated in several places. But it was too late to differentiate now. As the months went by, Polly increased monotonically. Finally, she generated a small but pathological function which left surds all over the place until she was driven to distraction.

The moral of the story is this: If you want to keep your expressions convergent, never allow them a single degree of freedom.


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http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/219/4/3/Imagine____by_jorgelo77.jpg


brown.

[americana]

There are so many things about this gif that bother me... strawberry, rose, deep red colour, glittery hypnosis, vine leaves, a gold spoon, a collar around the babies neck, no toes, no right leg or arm, silence trigger, blind.
And it shouldn't.
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/07%2008%2008/10%2008%2008/StrawberryPassionAwareness.gif

brown.

Interesting! It's cruder than the Anne Geddes photos. And those ones of babies dressed up in costumes, etc. are much more "in the public consciousness". I have always found them very disturbing and could never really pinpoint why, or didn't want to think about it.

http://www.photoinsider.com/pages/AnneGeddes/babybutterfly.jpg

I was looking for a photo to show about Anne Geddes and I found the above. I think it says it ALL.


In addition, on the Fairy phenomenon. Something to add might be the anorexia/ fairy connection - - i.e. pro-Ana girls having screen names referring to fairy/ faerie, collecting fairy pictures, referring to each other as "fairy" . . . very sad.

[hunkahunka]

http://cover6.cduniverse.com/CDUCoverart/Adult/Medium/Front/7015142.jpg
Lannie Barbie- Born to be a Star

http://pic.aebn.net/Stream/Movie/Boxcovers/a78528_xlf.jpg

http://gfx1.gamelink.com/GLImages/prodimages/133301.jpg

this is interesting:
http://www.trendytots.net/images/TammyYellowBornToBeAStarTop.jpg
and on the same 'trendytots.net' site:
http://www.trendytots.net/images/TinkerbellTop.jpg

http://www.lovefilm.com/lovefilm/images/products/4/9784-large.jpg
note the green triangle/pyramid

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/djmixtapez/pub/9002/A-Star-Is-Born-Vol.2.jpg

http://summerraine.com/cart/images/a_star_is_born.jpg
I have seen these 'star people' figures pop up frequently, star shaped stick men

http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/a-star-is-born-karin-kuhlmann.jpg
this is titled 'A star is born', by Karin Kuhlmann (Lilies? Orchids?)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/AStarisBorn1937.jpg
this could be an interesting lead. I have heard that the 'oscar' figure has an interesting occult background

[brown velvet]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/AStarisBorn1937.jpg
this could be an interesting lead. I have heard that the 'oscar' figure has an interesting occult background


http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/10%2008%2008/oscars01.jpg

Oscar (http://www.jamd.com/search?assettype=g&assetid=1742696&text=dwarf+oscar)




brown.

[hunkahunka]

http://www.sumo.tv/videodb/cache/img/c64286d21b7e45f3ab123b70dc1576f3.jpg
Judy Garland, James Mason

http://www.fopaws.com/tshirts/a_star_is_born.jpg

http://womensairandspacemuseum.com/eshop/images/BORN%20TO%20FLY.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Born_for_the_games.jpg/552px-Born_for_the_games.jpg

http://www.mavericksroasting.com/catalog/images/BornToBattle10.jpg

http://blackwidows.net/images/emblem08.jpg

http://www.momentumpictures.co.uk/assets/posters/Born-To-Fight_Poster.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MG/197048~Born-to-Dance-Posters.jpg