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soulja

27-07-2008, 04:16 PM

interesting what you wrote about red riding hood, that reminds me at a movie i've seen just the other day.

of wich the first part is a play on Little Red Riding Hood

15 year girl runs away from home to live with her grandmother after mom is arrested for prostitution and step dad for molesting her. Along the way her car breaks down, and a respectable, decent looking guy picks her up. Turns out he's the freeway rapist the news keeps talking about and now he's set his eyes on her. However, she shoots him several times and flees. By some miracle, the freeway rapist survives, and the police charge the girl with attempted homicide. The papers have a field day, making her out to be a scumbag and the guy a victim turned hero. But it's not over yet..
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116361/

the one i saw was the second part called
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/Freeway2poster.jpg

and is a play on Hansel and Gretel

Crystal "White Girl" Van Meter is sentenced to 25 years for her crimes. In a minimum security hospital, she teams up with Angela "Cyclona" Garcia and escapes. Cyclona is convinced her beloved Sister Gomez can help "White Girl" with her eating disorder and they head to Tijuana. On the way Cyclona murders a family and has sex with the dead bodies. "White Girl" is not happy that Cyclona has stopped taking her meds and insists she continue to take occasional doses should they continue together. They steal the family's car and make their way south. On the way, Cyclona reveals how Sister Gomez saved her from being molested by her father and possibly aliens. After drinking one to many beers and huffing some paint, they crash and fall down a hill laughing. They catch a ride on a freight train only to be assaulted by a crack addict. Cyclona kills him to protect White Girl, and the two make off with his bag of crack and guns. Venturing into the woods, they leave a trail of crack which is picked away by shady men with crow feathers on their hats. Lost and confused, they make it to the border only to have a stand-off with customs officials, both of whom Cyclona kills. "White Girl" violently pistol-whips Cyclona and after making her point, the two race to the suburbs of Tijuana.

In Tijuana, Crystal/White Girl makes money by luring men to dark alleys on the promise of a good time, and mugging them. Cyclona and White Girl also have a moment with beer, a shower, a vibrating bed, and some rampant lesbian sex. Finally they find a poster that shows Sister Gomez is in town. Sister Gomez appears to be a Catholic/spiritist healer; Cyclona is very keen that they visit her, for Sister Gomez has protected her from abuse in the past, and might be able to help them. They visit Sister Gomez at her gaudy mission house. The Sister makes an enormous roast feast for her "little movie star" (Cyclona) and the friend "with the hungry demon" (Crystal), referring to her bulimia. Cyclona then disappears as White Girl is forced to work for Sister Gomez in the same way as she has been doing, in exchange for food. Finally Crystal grows weary and makes her way to the basement, where she finds small children in a bondage room with a U.F.O shaped lantern. There is blood everywhere. Cyclona is hanging half-nude in a bondage style contraption. She tells Crystal that Sister Gomez made her watch while she chopped up children and made food out of them. She reveals that her ultimate plan for Crystal was to fatten her up with the meat of the children, and then, serve Crystal up for dinner as well. Crystal concludes that Sister Gomez is the leader of a bizarre cult that rapes and eats children and then sells the videos, protected by the front of a Catholic mission. Ready to deliver justice, White Girl/Crystal frees Cyclona and kills all the cult members; she also reveals Sister Gomez to be a rather well-endowed man. Not succumbing to bullets, Gomez is thrown in the oven. Burning, Gomez screams of his 5,000 years of terror and the revenge from his father Jupiter that will ensue. Crystal, keeping a promise made earlier, is forced to kill Cyclona in a tearful scene rather than allow her to be captured. Cyclona, wishing to leave behind a life of abuse and violence, hopes to be reincarnated as an eagle (we discover that Sister Gomez was her earliest abuser). White Girl makes a deal with the federales and leaves with her lawyer/pimp, stating "I'm not hungry anymore." signifying her triumph over the hungry demon.

soulja

27-07-2008, 04:26 PM

another twisted movie with MK undertones is ''Nobody loves Alice''

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/vhzgweafxct7m959kf6ol3.jpg

Alice (NITZAN MAGER) is a beautiful woman whose good looks hide an endurably lonely childhood in a series of foster homes. Also hidden is an insane – and murderous – desire for fairy tale love. Whoever withholds it from her is brutally punished with Alice’s own brand of brutal torture. It is the bad luck of her co-worker Abigail (AMANDA TAYLOR) and her fiancé Alex (PHILLIP WARD) to find out too late why NOBODY LOVES ALICE, as they become her next prey. Now Abigail must try to get into Alice’s twisted world to try to find and save the man she loves – or what’s left of him – before it’s too late.

there is a scene where she feeds the guy parts of his own leg and refers to it as 'chicken'..

soulja

27-07-2008, 04:49 PM

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/153503-1.jpg
Album cover of a guy called ''King Diamond''

http://www.bestrock.cz/include_images/k/king_diamond/foto/king_diamond_03.jpg

During a spring 1984 interview with British heavy metal magazine Kerrang! correspondent Dave Dickson, who, after some introductory remarks and questions about the then-current Mercyful Fate album Don't Break The Oath, took Diamond to task regarding his Satanic beliefs.[citation needed] Dickson made frequent references to infamous occultist Aleister Crowley, by whom Diamond denied being influenced. Diamond expressed his admiration of Anton Szandor LaVey (founder of The Church of Satan in San Francisco in 1966) in the interview, which has been cited by some as influential in the demise of Mercyful Fate (although Diamond has always denied this). In the same interview he claimed to have cursed Manowar, as Fate had briefly toured as a support act to Manowar in the UK, and there were personality conflicts between the two bands.

He adorns himself with inverted crosses, the sigil of Baphomet (from the LaVeyan perspective) and has written lyrics openly hostile to Christianity (as evidenced in "The Oath" with lyrics including "I deny Jesus Christ, The Deceiver, and I abjure the Christian faith holding in contempt the whole of its works"). However, with the albums released under his own name, he has downplayed the overt Satanism in favour of a "horror movie" approach, though he still wears inverted crosses as jewellery and makeup.

In an interview from 2006, King Diamond reveals that he does not follow any specific religion, and expresses concern that religion has led so many people to kill and destroy each other. He stated that he cannot comprehend why religion has caused so much death and destruction, when it is logically impossible to prove the presence or absence of any god (for example, the Holocaust, Crusades, etc.). He reveals that he has reached a point in his life where he has completely given up believing in anything religious and that he simply does not know what to answer when asked whether he is a Satanist or not
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Diamond

soulja

27-07-2008, 04:58 PM

These cages are called Woodpecker Grids. The victim sees a flash of light when high D.C. voltage is applied. Later, this flash of light is used with hypnotic induction to make the person think they are going into another dimension when they are blasted with high voltage. In the Peter Pan programming, the Programmers tell the slaves that this is “riding the light.” One of the popular traumas after the small child has endured the Woodpecker Grid cages for days is to rape it. The rape is intentionally brutal so that it will be as traumatic as possible

Andi Deris - We're riding the Light

Unbounded colours are drafting ahead
Lighten a future which we never had
We are the troopers
Riding through space until we die
Riding through space until we die

We're riding the light
Riding the light
We are the damned of the holy reich
We're riding....

First came the liars
The there was hate
The came the fire
And nearly too late
Were sent the troopers
Into the space of human race

We're riding the light
Riding the light
We are the damned of the holy reich
Where is the one?
Where is the one
Leading us home where it's all begun?
We're riding....

We are the troopers
Deep in your minds
We are the troopers
We are the spies

In a dreams without end
It's a dream without end
We are the damned of the holy reich
Where is the one?
Where is the one?
Leading us home where it's all begun?
We're riding....

one of his album covers
http://static.metal-archives.com/images/8/5/1/851.jpg

King Diamond has a album called
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/64/MercyfulFateDBTO.jpg

DEFENSES IN DEPTH

What would happen if a slave physically got away from its master or handler? This has happened countless times and the mind-control is so solid that the handlers don’t have too much to worry about. Mind-controlled slaves have gone to therapists for years and never gotten free of the mind-control. The therapeutic process that the establishment has schooled them in and then requires them to adhere to, prevents the therapist from doing things that might really set the victim free. Therapists are often loath to give any help in any thing that smacks of spirituality. The spiritual issues in many of these slaves are the most crucial issues facing them. If they don’t resolve these spiritual issues, the deeper alters will continue to adhere to their blood oaths of allegiance to their Satanic abusers and their oaths to serve Satan loyally.

Each cult which programs, makes sure that they place in lots of loyal alters, which therapists call persecutor alters because they torment the alters who want freedom. If therapists try to eliminate these persecutor alters, they will fight back with the full tenacity and strength that the survival instinct gives to anyone. Their persecutor role needs to be validated, and then redirected toward productive ends. Many persecutor alters see life simply as following their instructions and that they are protecting the system from greater harm by stopping therapy. During programming that was the case, but if their System has reached a good therapist and has good support team of other people, their fears no longer apply. The cult will attempt to show them that their fears do still apply. Hopefully, the support team for the system of alters will work as hard at protecting as the abusers do to reinforce the fear. Many of the programmers have been associated with the military. One of the tricks that the military learned is a defense in depth. The Russians employed defenses in depth with great success in 1943 in the big battle of Kursk during W.W. II. The first defense is that the slave has no awareness of the MPD (DID) or that they are being used as a slave. Some of the alters will realize that something is wrong, but the mind control is too strong for them to see clearly. Essentially the System is in trance all the time, even the front alters, they do not perceive reality like people who are not in trance all the time. The next line of defense is that the fronts of an alter System don’t have a clue about the abuse or what their system has been designed for. The front alters will have alters which are loyal to the master, and alters who are full of craziness and disinformation. If the victim keeps probing (which many don’t) they will discover an occult involvement. Even if they discover that the System is related to the occult world, the programming is still intact. If the person finds out he is MPD, and finds out that the System was part of the occult world, then he still is captured by all the programming which is intact. Walls, fire walls, mazes, suicide programming, internal armies, programmed craziness and many other tactics sap the strength of the front alters if they try to deviate from the straight and narrow programmed way of behaving.

mrguitarbear

27-07-2008, 05:14 PM

' Riding the Light ' ? Maybe ' Ride the Lightning ' ?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/matthewnewton/ridefront.jpg

soulja

27-07-2008, 05:23 PM

couple of days ago i watched a movie called Southland Tales.

must be the one movie with most MK references i've ever seen (apart from Butterfly Effect)

California is at the epicenter of a political and environmental disaster that threatens to destroy the world in this ambitious fusion of comedy, drama, dystopia science fiction, and music. In the year 2005, a nuclear attack wipes out part of the state of Texas, and three years later America is a virtual police state, with the government taking control of nearly every part of people's lives, supposedly for their own good. A German firm has found a way to generate energy using seawater, but both public and private concerns are desperate to prevent the new technology from being introduced in the gasoline-starved United States. A Marxist underground based on the West Coast is determined to bring down the federal government through violent revolution. In this midst of this chaos, we follow a number of stories that continually return to three principle characters. Boxer Santaros is an actor famous for his role in action films; he's trying to secure financing for a new project, but reality keeps mirroring the events in his script and he struggles to hold on to his identity following a bout with amnesia. Krysta Now is a porn star who is reinventing herself as a television pundit offering her views on politics, contemporary culture, and teenage sex. And Roland Taverner is an L.A. police officer whose identity has mysteriously split in two and he struggles to track down his other half.

i won't write a whole symbolism decoding post of it so just a few examples

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/southerntales/st08.jpg
yellow brick road, rabbit..

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/southerntales/st09.jpg
in front of the mirror, heavely tattoed

his mother is head of security
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/southerntales/st14.jpg
dressed in black (Mother of Darkness Alter/ Grand Dame level in Illuminati)

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/southerntales/st19.jpg
again one of the main characters in front of a mirror /split personality reference

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/southerntales/st41.jpg
she is the person who guides the main character through the storyline, she gives commands often 3 times /triggers him. works in the NSA type organization his mother is head of.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/southerntales/st45.jpg
a symbol tied into MK we haven't covered in the Thread so far is the Smiley face. it's all over the movie
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/southerntales/st46.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/southerntales/st21.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mov/southerntales/st23.jpg

''smile'' is another command/trigger tied into programing.

that's the reason Lily Allen made a song called ''smile''

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000G04UUU.01._SS400_SCLZZZZZZZ_V64382018_.jpg

soulja

27-07-2008, 05:25 PM

talking bout Lily Allen, just came across this one
http://www.ilikemusic.com/images/article_images/full/lilyallen_ldn_f300.jpg
Rainbow style Umbrella and Rubies (?)

as for the smiley
http://www.tulsa-time.jp/bandtee/fer-nirvana-smile21.jpg

brown velvet

27-07-2008, 06:00 PM

as for the smiley

Hey :)

Grrrrreat posts soulja :D
the mention of smilies.....
sure this is old news, always worth a memory jog tho...
Dark Angel and the handsome Michael Weatherly:cool: mmmmmm
so many triggers, everywhere, all the time, fascinating insider viewing, trolled out for the youth.... Many of the scenes are in the 'couriers building' always a couple of scenes at their lockers, the stickers / pastings / messages etc on the lockers changes constantly, always there are smilies, I noticed them way before I 'noticed' them ;)

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/DarkAngelOutsmiley.jpg

The pilot episode, in the 'main mans' office....

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/DarkAngelhourglass.jpg
disturbing, to say the least.

brown.

cheeb

27-07-2008, 06:50 PM

American Psycho...
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4264/americanpsychobookbf6.jpg
One Eye Ans The Mirrored Reflection..

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4608/americanpsychosv0.jpg
Christian Bale In Mask..

Christian Bales Stepmum was CIA Agent
Gloria Steinem

[/B]http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9108/gloriasteinemasplayboybni7.jpg
Gloria Steinem, undercover as a Playboy Bunny for an expose on the New York Playboy Club, 1962

Feminist icon GLORIA STEINEM is begging her stepson CHRISTIAN BALE not to take on any more roles where he has to gain or lose large amounts of weight

Before Steinem was a crazy woman she was a reporter, and first came to fame in 1963 when she wrote an undercover exposé of life as a Playboy Bunny. She was 28, and didn't then consider herself a feminist, and so the article focused less on the politics of the Hefner empire and more on the socio-economics of a Bunny's life.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1260/steinemandhughesrx0.gif

Steinem wrote, all of which added up. Before she herself qualified, she had to undergo a gynaecological examination. After the article was published, Hefner wrote to her, conceding that "your beef about the physical given the girls before they start work at the club prompted my eliminating it".

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4541/pamgrier006fx4.jpg
Pam Greir Of Blaxploitation Fame...

Bales Stepmum Was In The MK Ultra
"Bunny Buisness"

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2896/jessicarabbitld7.jpg

Lilly Allen As Jessica Rabbit

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2238/lilyvideo450x323ba2.jpg

A Sample Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igJgcdHHe18
Lots Of Symbolism There
Robots Galore

Here She Is From The Finished Video
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5787/lillyrabbitmh6.jpg

And The Finished Video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EqtF2xfOOtk
In Emerald...
Murdered A Perfectly Good Song There In My Opinion..

This Is The Cover..

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7695/markronsonad1cxxleh2.jpg
One Eye,Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger,
Fragmented-Ripped Up Picture..

Here is another Cover From Lilly Allen...
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/955/lilyvw7.jpg
Lots Of Symbolism Here
Masonic Checkerboard,
Hook Em Horns,
Caduces Of Heracles...

hunkahunka

27-07-2008, 07:18 PM

hunkahunka

27-07-2008, 08:10 PM

amethyst

27-07-2008, 08:31 PM

Go Ask Alice

A book from the 1970's later made into a movie.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/374/200pxgoaskalicsedfsic0.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Ask_Alice

"Go Ask Alice is a controversial 1971 book about drug abuse that is considered a classic of American young adult literature. The book purports to be the actual diary of an anonymous teenage girl who died of a drug overdose in the late 1960s and is therefore presented as a testimony against drug use. Alice is not the protagonist's name; the diarist's name is never given in the book. A woman named Alice is mentioned briefly in one entry; she is a fellow addict the diarist meets on the street. Despite this, reviewers generally refer to the diarist as "Alice" for the sake of convenience.

It caused a sensation when published and remains in print as of 2008. Revelations about the book's origin have caused much doubt as to its authenticity and factual accounts, and the publishers have listed it as a work of fiction since at least the mid-late 1980s. Although it is still published under the byline "Anonymous," press interviews and copyright records suggest that it is largely or wholly the work of its purported editor, Beatrice Sparks.

Some of the days and dates referenced in the book put the timeline from 1968 until 1970.

The title is from the lyrics to the Jefferson Airplane song "White Rabbit". Grace Slick wrote the song based on perceived drug references in the classic novel Alice In Wonderland. (On July 14 [page 36 of the 2006 edition], the writer says she "feel[s] like Alice in Wonderland" and "maybe Lewis G. Caroll was on drugs too".)

Plot summary

"The novel, or diary, deals with the downfall of a fifteen-year-old American girl and her journals over the course of two years and a few days.

At the beginning of the book, "Alice" is a typical, insecure, middle-class teenager preoccupied with boys, diets, and popularity. Her fortunes take a sharp turn for the worse when her family moves to a new town and she finds herself less popular and more isolated than ever before. Unhappy in the new town, she is overjoyed to be allowed to return to the old town to spend the summer with her grandparents. During this stay she is invited to a party by an old acquaintance; there she unwittingly ingests LSD that had been added to random bottles of Coca-Cola and distributed to the party guests as a game. The other guests had mistakenly assumed Alice was aware of what the "game" entailed. After this first unwitting, but pleasurable, experience, she seeks drugs deliberately, and rapidly proceeds to marijuana, amphetamines, and casual sex. She describes her drug experiences intricately; the more extreme the supposed diarist's drug experience, the more sophisticated and descriptive her writing becomes.

A pregnancy scare and the return to her new town encourage her to turn away from drugs; however she soon willingly falls in with the drug crowd where finally she finds acceptance. She starts dating a drug dealer and sells drugs to grade-schoolers for him. After realizing he was using her, she turns him in to the police and runs away from home with her new friend Chris, moving to San Francisco. She opens a boutique with Chris, however she misses her family. After being given heroin and then being raped by Chris' boss, Shelia and her boyfriend, she and Chris return home.

She is welcomed back warmly by her family, but finds herself ostracized by the community and has difficulty keeping her resolve to avoid drugs. She soon weakens and, while high, runs away again. She spends time living on the streets, a period during which her diary is not dated and entries were purportedly recorded on scraps of paper or paper napkins. She finds herself having sexual relations with strangers and loses track of everything, but her fear for her family finally gives her enough courage to ask a priest to help her return home.

When she returns home she vows to stay completely off drugs, and succeeds, even without the support of Chris who has now moved away. However, she is again ostracized by her former friends who continue to label her a police informant, and is ignored by the "square" kids. While babysitting, Alice is drugged without her knowledge. She has a violent, bad trip, during which a neighbor locks her in the closet, where she badly injures herself trying to claw her way out, and is committed to a psychiatric hospital. After being released she returns home, is finally happy and over her drug addiction. She starts a new romance with a student, Joel, at her father's university. She gets her life back on track and finally makes the decision to stop keeping a diary.

An editorial note informs readers that three weeks after the last entry the diarist died of an overdose. Although it remains unclear whether Alice's overdose was accidental or premeditated, the key issue is that this girl -- whose life the reader has followed in intimate detail -- was just one of the thousands who died because of drugs that year."

[edit] Authorship

Go Ask Alice was originally promoted as nonfiction and was published under the byline "Anonymous." However, not long after its publication, Beatrice Sparks, a psychologist and Mormon youth counselor, began making media appearances promoting herself as the book's editor.

Searches at the U.S. Copyright Office[1] show that Sparks is the sole copyright holder for Go Ask Alice. Furthermore, she is listed on the copyright record as the book's author — not as the editor, compiler, or executor, which would be more usual for someone publishing the diary of a deceased person. (According to the book itself, the sole copyright is owned by Prentice-Hall)

In an October 1979 interview with Aileen Pace Nilsen for School Library Journal, Sparks claimed that Go Ask Alice had been based on the diary of one of her patients, but that she had added various fictional incidents based on her experiences working with other troubled teens. She said the real "Alice" had not died of a drug overdose, but in a way that could have been either an accident or suicide. She also stated that she could not produce the original diary, because she had destroyed part of it after transcribing it and the rest was locked away in the publisher's vault.

Sparks' second "diary" project, Jay's Journal, gave rise to a controversy that cast further doubt"

cheeb

27-07-2008, 11:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj8MpszNics&eurl=http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=jefferson+airplane+ask+alice&hl=en&sitesearch=

Jefferson Airplane - Ask Alice

One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all
Go ask Alice
When she’s ten feet tall

And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall
Tell them a hookah smoking caterpillar has given you the call
Call Alice
When she was just small

When the men on the chess board
get up and tell you where to go
And you just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving slow
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the white knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "Off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said

Feed your head
Feed your head

Here it is set to Disney Alice in Wonderland footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HmJQyS8QVw&feature=related

Funny,I Was Thinking Of This Too...

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8742/gracebj9.jpg
Grace Slick

Counterculture Meets Mall Culture for Grace Slick
The Ex-Acid-Rock Singer Peddles Her 'Alice' Art
Sue Kavach
Grace Slick says she can't remember a lot of things, which is perhaps no surprise given how much she drank and drugged herself into oblivion during her reign as a rock-and-roll queen

Now she's an artist holding court at a gallery in a suburban shopping mall, where some 150 people have come to see her paintings
and drawings. But mostly it is a chance for them to set their eyes on a legend, the woman who did all those bad things that horrified parents -- and survived.

Polka-dotted teacups are set on a table at the Wentworth Gallery in Fashion Centre at Pentagon City, in a tribute to Slick, whose work revolves around "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland," nudes and rock musicians (live ones like Eric Clapton, but more often dead ones like Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Jerry Garcia and Janis Joplin)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9580/alicedrinkingteaho4.jpg
Alice Sipping Tea
By Grace Slick

Back in 1970, Grace Slick came to Washington for a very different purpose: a White House reception hosted by Tricia Nixon. The event's organizers weren't aware that her song "Mexico" was a scathing critique of President Richard Nixon's anti-drug policy. Nonetheless, she was denied entrance because she'd brought along Abbie Hoffman, whose name was synonymous with radical. Slick said afterward she would have spiked Nixon's tea with LSD if she'd gotten in.

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/2018/gracejanisyp0.jpg
"This shot of Grace Slick and Janis was taken in 1967 for Teen Set magazine for an article on the two Queen Bees of San Francisco Rock.

Strangulation And Teenset,,

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3365/teensetvq1.jpg
Jimmi Hendrix And Conspiracy..

Ewige Blummencraft
Ewige Blumenkraft (German: "forever flower power" or "flower power forever") is given in Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus! Trilogy as a slogan or password of the Illuminati. Since "flower power" is a modern concept advanced by hippies, it is likely that Shea and Wilson intended this as a joke, although, characteristically, they never say so. They attribute the disclosure of this slogan to an article by Sandra Glass in the magazine Teenset for March 1969. Another possibility is that the rose and lotus flower are an important symbol of spiritual development in both the western and eastern mystery schools. "Ewige Blumenkraft und ewige Schlangenkraft" is also offered in Illuminatus! as the complete version of this motto. The text translates "Schlangenkraft" as "serpent power"; thus "Ewige Blumenkraft und ewige Schlangenkraft" means "eternal flower power and eternal serpent power" and may allude to the conjoinment of cross and rose within the alchemical furnace. In this interpretation, the authors seem to suggest sexual magick as the secret or a secret of the Illuminati. Illuminatus! quotes Glass as claiming that the phrase figured in an incident involving Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley and Senator Abraham A. Ribicoff during the 1968 Democratic National Convention. After Ribicoff criticized Mayor Daley for instructing the Chicago Police Department to deal harshly with anti-war demonstrators, Daley shouted something inaudible at Ribicoff, leading to widespread speculation about what Daley had said. The Teenset article, according to Illuminatus!, introduces the novel theory that Daley shouted "Ewige Blumenkraft!" -- presumably marking Daley as a member of the Illuminati. The web-page [ claims that this article really appeared in Teenset, but that Sandra Glass was a pseudonym for Robert Shea, who was playing a prank. The Teenset article (as quoted in Illuminatus!) cites Simon Moon -- a fictional character from Illuminatus!, as well as one of Robert Anton Wilson's pen names -- as the source of its background information on the Illuminati.

The 28 Club

James Marshall Hendrix (born Johnny Allen Hendrix and known as Jimi Hendrix) (November 27, 1942 – September 18, 1970)

Janis Lyn Joplin (January 19, 1943–October 4, 1970)

James Douglas Morrison (December 8, 1943 – July 3, 1971)

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/897/lizardkingwq8.jpg

"Before I sink into the big sleep, I want to hear The Scream of the Butterfly."

-- Jim Morrison
http://youtube.com/watch?v=slvPMU-7OyI
@ 6.30

"When the Music's Over"

Q: "What about Jim Morrison of The Doors?"

Grace: "I don't know. We co-headlined with them in Europe, and was that funny. We were in Amsterdam - drugs were legal there - and we'd all be walking down the street and kids would walk up and hand us these drugs.
We'd maybe smoke one toke off a joint or something. Well, Jim took everything everyone offered him. And by the time we had to play that night, he couldn't. He came onstage during our performance, and he was like a pinwheel. I mean,
he was just flailing all over. They had to take him away. But I don't think it was suicidal. It was just...push it to the edge, see whether it's going to fall off or not."

Now, I wanted it all--I wanted the boyfriend or husband and the kid and the job and the drugs; I didn't want to give up one for the other. So that's what I did, and I'm glad, because when you get old it's what you didn't do that you regret. I didn't learn how to ride a horse. I didn't go to the Middle East. I didn't screw Jimi Hendrix or Peter O'Toole when I had the chance. I would have loved to have gotten drunk with all those British guys like Oliver Reed and Richard Harris and screwed them all, because that's what the deal was then--sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll. IS: With no apologies.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3116/sunfighterhija8.jpg

Similar To

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9884/smellsliketeenspiritgo0.jpg

mrguitarbear

27-07-2008, 11:42 PM

This is probably where it all starts , with the hippie movement and the associated peace movement in the 1960s.

The way of the hippie is antithetical to all repressive hierarchical power structures since these are adverse to the hippie goals of peace, love and freedom. This is why the “Establishment” feared and suppressed the hippie movement of the ’60s, as it was a revolution against the established order.

You can see why the CIA would want to infiltrate the music industry , or have a certain amount of control over the music industry , in case anything like this ever happened again.

With the control over the world media that the CIA has - supposedly they have agents in media outlets in every capital city in the world , and they own many publications outright or in part - they can promote any music act that they choose. Very rarely will the CIA act in a ' hands on ' fashion though , they act as ' puppet masters ' behind the scenes via investments and holding companies. It would be very easy to fill the music industry and film industry with their ' projects '.

cheeb

28-07-2008, 12:42 AM

This is probably where it all starts , with the hippie movement and the associated peace movement in the 1960s.

You can see why the CIA would want to infiltrate the music industry , or have a certain amount of control over the music industry , in case anything like this ever happened again.

With the control over the world media that the CIA has - supposedly they have agents in media outlets in every capital city in the world , and they own many publications outright or in part - they can promote any music act that they choose. Very rarely will the CIA act in a ' hands on ' fashion though , they act as ' puppet masters ' behind the scenes via investments and holding companies. It would be very easy to fill the music industry and film industry with their ' projects '.

Hello :)
You Seem To Be Good At Investigating Stuff,

Any Ideas About:

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/726/sunfullsq4.jpg
Orange Sunshine - this print depicts a four-way hit

This is one of the more popular blotter iconographies. Alluding to the popular sixties acid pill.

ONE TYPE OF ACID was particularly popular among American ground forces in Vietnam. It was called " orange sunshine," and much of it was smuggled in from southern California during the late 1960s and early 1970s. Far from the rice paddies of Southeast Asia a group known as the Brotherhood of Eternal Love was waging its own holy war of sorts in their tireless efforts to turn the world on to LSD. During their heydey the Brotherhood ran the world's largest illicit LSD ring.

CIA Front Or What...?????

hunkahunka

28-07-2008, 01:11 AM

these images are from 'The March of the Cards' in Alice in Wonderland.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/401042977_32013796f2.jpg?v=0

http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/alicepic/disney-movie/march-of-the-cards-3.jpg

[

strangely, the March of the Cards makes an appearance at
the Venice carnival:
ff to 4:30 to see it in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIAY8tPErZo

In the hedge maze garden, Alice meets some playing cards (her own size due to her current height) painting white roses red, who warn her about a demanding queen who beheads her disloyal subjects at will. The White Rabbit appears and heralds the arrival of the Queen, her diminutive husband, and her card army. Furious over her painted roses, the Queen orders the decapitation of the gardener cards. She then calms down and becomes sweet toward Alice and invites her to a game of croquet, using flamingos as mallets, hedgehogs as balls, and card soldiers as goals. The Queen cheats during the game, and orders the beheading of anyone who dares stand in the way of her victory.

The Cheshire Cat appears and plays a prank on the Queen, then disappears, causing the Queen to believe that Alice is the prankster. Before the Queen can order her execution, the King suggests that Alice be put on trial. At the trial, Alice's nonsensical acquaintances condemn her. The Cheshire Cat appears and causes enough distraction to allow Alice to eat the remaining portions of mushroom, causing her to grow to gigantic proportions. At this size, Alice scolds the terrified Queen for her rash behavior, but then starts shrinking back to her normal size all too soon.

http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/alicepic/disney-movie/march-of-the-cards-5.jpg

In this image it appears that Alice is set to be decapitated by the Queen of Hearts' card army, alongside the gardener cards.

brown velvet

28-07-2008, 02:38 AM

using flamingos as mallets, hedgehogs as balls

Hiya :D
Excellent find

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Sonics.png

thanks

brown.

cheeb

28-07-2008, 03:15 AM

Hiya :D
Excellent find

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Sonics.png

thanks

brown.

Is This What You Are Aluding To..???

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/278/911supermario1rd3.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3818/911supermario2oo3.jpg

From The Super Mario Brothers Film...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fx-DMglBOE&feature=related

Or From Predictive Programmes Set Up Pre 9.11

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5559/911liquor5x6dd9.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9652/allahew6.gif

It Has Been Happenig For A Long Time....

hunkahunka

28-07-2008, 03:31 AM

some of this is starting to go straight over my head, Cheeb.
What is the 'Mark of a great town' pic from?

and what year was that allah ackbar thing made?

hunkahunka

28-07-2008, 03:33 AM

Hiya :D
Excellent find

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Sonics.png

.

what are these?

brown velvet

28-07-2008, 03:36 AM

Is This What You Are Aluding To..???

Hi :)

no Cheeb
I wasn't, I have no clue about any of what you are showing me, although it all makes perfect sense to info I work out, however, *thinks* the diff here is, that you are far more aware of the 'bigger triggers' (general population targets) than I am, as in, world influence as opposed to indivdual trauma meanings to those who are MC survivors. My reference was to the more concentrated understandings of the smaller pictures, the survivors of it.
Could be two towers, could be End of the World, could just be g*ms
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Masteremerald.gif
just putting it out there, see what the opinions are... :)

brown.

brown velvet

28-07-2008, 03:39 AM

what are these?

Hi

a Sega comp game late 80's 90's, sonic spinball, a huge computer game, lots of characters, lots of diff games.

brown.

hunkahunka

28-07-2008, 03:43 AM

Hi

a Sega comp game late 80's 90's, sonic spinball, a huge computer game, lots of characters, lots of diff games.

brown.

are they hedgehogs?

cheeb

28-07-2008, 04:03 AM

some of this is starting to go straight over my head, Cheeb.
What is the 'Mark of a great town' pic from?

and what year was that allah ackbar thing made?

I Really Do Despair Sometimes..

I Caught Hold Of A Website Last Night,
That Had All Your Stuff On It,
In Almost Chronological Order,

What You Up To...

Another Faker...

OR What..????

I

hunkahunka

28-07-2008, 04:06 AM

I Really Do Despair Sometimes..

I Caught Hold Of A Website Last Night,
That Had All Your Stuff On It,
In Almost Chronological Order,

What You Up To...

Another Faker...

OR What..????

No offence intended, Cheeb. I just wanted you to provide a little more information along with what you had posted so that I could better understand
what you were getting at.

I post a lot of my information on other forums, btw. I use different names on different forums, so that is likely
what you found.
You have been making some fantastic posts here. Was that Mario Bros. game made YEARS before 9/11?
A lot of people are not as up to speed on the whole video game genre, so that is why I asked you to clarify
for those of us who might not know where those images came from.

brown velvet

28-07-2008, 04:22 AM

are they hedgehogs?

Hi :)

yeah, oooops forgot to say that bit :p lolololol soz....

yeah, he's a hedgehog, blue is his main colour, he has a fox that helps him fox = f / 6 o / 15 = 6 x / 24 = 6 = 666 so the fritz codes seem to imply....

brown.

cheeb

28-07-2008, 04:44 AM

No offence intended, Cheeb. I just wanted you to provide a little more information along with what you had posted so that I could better understand
what you were getting at.

I post a lot of my information on other forums, btw. I use different names on different forums, so that is likely
what you found.
You have been making some fantastic posts here. Was that Mario Bros. game made YEARS before 9/11?
A lot of people are not as up to speed on the whole video game genre, so that is why I asked you to clarify
for those of us who might not know where those images came from.

Super Mario Bros Film..

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7875/supermariobrosver2wp7.jpg

Release Date:
9 July 1993 (UK)

You Might Also Notice The Triple M
With The Leg Thing,,,
Tatoos,
And ECT Thing Going On...!!!!

:rolleyes:

Same "M "Thing Going On Here...

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1108/meninblackbv8.jpg

Okay....!!!!!

cheeb

28-07-2008, 05:16 AM

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4853/sonicbp6.gif

hunkahunka

28-07-2008, 05:31 AM

cheeb

28-07-2008, 05:53 AM

interesting stuff, Cheeb. Your work reminds me a lot of Jake Kotze's stuff.

have heard speculation that the Italian Mario Bros. fighting the sewer system 'lizards' had some connotations too, like the Catholics vs. the Protestants, or the Pope vs. the Queen, that type of thing!

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5661/supermariobrosmushroomwiu3.jpg

Redemptiom, Mushrooms And Gottileb....

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/114/sidneygottliebsb4.jpg

Sidney Gottlieb (1918-1999), pictured above, was director from 1953 to 1964 of the MK-ULTRA Project. MK-ULTRA was a secret CIA-run Chemical and Biological Warfare program created at the height of the Cold War. Its purpose was the development of chemical techniques of brainwashing, espionage and mind control. Dr Gottlieb himself specialised in the development of lethal toxins and other biological agents. His clandestine weaponry was designed to assassinate Third World leaders allegedly hostile to US interests (e.g. Fidel Castro in Cuba, Patrice Lumumba in the Congo, Abdul Kassem in Iraq). Dr Gottlieb also sought to exploit the military potential of mind-altering drugs such as lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD). According to Martin Lee and Bruce Shlain [authors of Acid Dreams: The CIA, LSD, and the Sixties Rebellion, Grove Press, 1986] CIA operatives tested LSD by agreeing...

"... among themselves to slip LSD into each other's drinks. The target never knew when his turn would come, but as soon as the drug was ingested a ... colleague would tell him so he could make the necessary preparations (which usually meant taking the rest of the day off). Initially the leaders of MK-ULTRA restricted the surprise acid tests to [their own] members, but when this phase had run its course they started dosing other Agency personnel who had never tripped before. Nearly everyone was fair game, and surprise acid trips became something of an occupational hazard among CIA operatives.... The Office of Security felt that [MK-ULTRA] should have exercised better judgment in dealing with such a powerful and dangerous chemical. The straw that broke the camel's back came when a Security informant got wind of a plan by a few [MK-ULTRA] jokers to put LSD in the punch served at the annual CIA Christmas office party ... a Security memo writer... concluded indignantly and unequivocally that he did 'not recommend testing in the Christmas punch bowls usually present at the Christmas office parties.'"

Later LSD trials used prisoners, mental patients and prostitutes as subjects. Dr Gottlieb was reputedly the inspiration behind Dr Strangelove [played by Peter Sellers] in Stanley Kubrik's satirical masterpiece of 1964.

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1602/mariodealerzs7.gif

Mario,Lizards.Drug Dealers And Mushrooms....

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7605/090403hiroshimatr0.jpg

Mushroom Atomic Warfare..!!!!

No Offence Meant Mate,
You Know The Score.....

:)

brown velvet

28-07-2008, 06:07 AM

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4853/sonicbp6.gif

Hi Cheeb,

lurve it!!!

brown.

clozaril

28-07-2008, 12:07 PM

anyone see massive butterfly used in the BBC advert with yoko ono?

hunkahunka

28-07-2008, 01:07 PM

anyone see massive butterfly used in the BBC advert with yoko ono?

I hope someone digs that up some place and posts it.

http://www.arjanwrites.com/arjanwrites/images/arjanwrites_ono_2007.jpg

mrguitarbear

28-07-2008, 03:23 PM

' Orange sunshine ' was synthesised by Nick Sand and Tim Scully , two clandestine chemists , in 1968.

Nick Sand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Sand)
Tim Scully (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Scully)

Tim Scully was the apprentice of Owsley Stanley who supplied the hippie groups such as the Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane with their LSD.

Owsley Stanley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owsley_Stanley)

The US Government got Eli Lilly to manufacture the drug , this is because the Swiss company Sandoz which held the patent would not co-operate with the US military's attempts to stockpile LSD. Sandoz withdrew the drug from the market in 1966 as US states began to pass laws which made the drug illegal , this opened the way for individual chemists to begin underground manufacture.

The Brotherhood of Eternal Love certainly sounds like a CIA front :
Brotherhood_of_Eternal_Love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brotherhood_of_Eternal_Love)

hunkahunka

28-07-2008, 05:45 PM

in relation to the David Shurter video, in which David explains remembering
being terrorized in a funeral home, and a game of hide and seek in which kids
were told they would be killed when found.

This reminded me of the 'finders' case, in which a CIA group known as the 'finders' were caught with a van load of disoriented children.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ciadrugsabusemurder.shtml

I did a Youtube search on Finders to see what came up and check out
this bizarre Australian tv show:

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Mnh_eJ54M&eurl=http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=the+finders&hl=en&sitesearch=

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knq0d2Ln8TQ&feature=related

The Story of the CIA's "Finders" Abduction Operation

The CIA Traffics in Drugs, Child Ritual Sexual Abuse, and Global Murder

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ciadrugsabusemurder.shtml
E-Y Posted July 2005

[Note from Ken Adachi: I first saw the report reproduced below in Ted Gunderson's spiral-bound expose titled The CIA's "Finders" which he had assembled somewehere in the late 1980's following his invovlvement with John DeCamp in investigating The Frnaklin Cover-Up story. There is no author attributed to this article on the voxfux web site, but the article may have appeared in The Spotlight, as Ted often ran his breaking stories through that publication.]

http://www.voxfux.com/features/cia_child_sex.html

[ Introductory notes from Voxfux]

One by one, the dots get connected. The same names keep popping up and they are linked with the same activities over and over and over again until the pattern becomes so clear and undeniable, the circumstantial evidence becomes so overwhelming and the picture emerges that is so frightening that it is hard to believe that it is true. The picture that has emerged is that indeed the major institutions of the United States of America, the CIA, the FBI and the many of our governmental and media institutions are involved in child sexual slavery and ritualistic abuse. The same names keep surfacing in relation to the same subjects over and over again. The CIA, child sexual abuse, the Catholic church, George Bush Sr., The secret societies of the Scull and Bones, the Freemasons, The Knights of Malta and others and on and on and on.

If you think this sounds like some "looney conspiracy theory," congratulations, that's exactly how they programmed you to think, you have been brainwashed - your mind has been successfully obliterated. For, the evidence presented on the voxfux.com website is so overwhelming and so indisputable that to ignore it any longer or write it off as too outrageous to be true, is to be a low immoral retarded coward. If you decide to continue reading, prepare yourself to connect all the dots of this evil incarnate. Read on. Your life and the safety of you family depends on it.

voxfux

On February 7th of 1987, the Washington Post ran an interesting story that did not at first seem to have any particularly national significance. The article concerned a case of possible kidnapping and child abuse, and material discovered in the Washington area that they say points to a 1960s style commune called the Finders, described in a court document as a "cult" that conducted "brainwashing" and used children "in rituals." DC police who searched the Northeast Washington warehouse linked to the group removed large plastic bags filled with color slides, photographs and photographic contact sheets. Some showed naked children involved in what appeared to be "cult rituals," bloodletting ceremonies of animals and one photograph of a child in chains.

Customs officials said their links to the DC area led authorities into a far-reaching investigation that includes The Finders -- a group of about 40 people that court documents allege is led by a man named Marion Pettie -- and their various homes, including the duplex apartment in Glover Park, the Northeast Washington warehouse and a 90 acre farm in rural Madison County, VA.

It was the US News and World Report that would ultimately provide the follow-up to the Finders story, noting that there is a certain Customs Service memorandum that was written at the time of the original investigation, written by Ramon J. Martinez, Special Agent, United States Customs Service, describing two adult white males and six minor children ages 7 years to 2 years. The adult males were Michael Houlihan and Douglas Ammerman, both of Washington, DC who had been arrested the previous day on charges of child abuse.The children were covered with insect bites, were very dirty, most of the children were not wearing underpants and all of the children had not been bathed in many days. The men were somewhat evasive under questioning and stated only that they were the children's teachers and were en route to Mexico to establish a school for brilliant children. The children were unaware of the functions of telephones, television and toilets, and stated that they were not allowed to live indoors and were only given food as a reward.

A Detective Bradley had initiated an investigation on the two addresses provided by the Tallahassee Police Department during December of 1986. An informant had given him information regarding the cult, known as the "Finders," operating various businesses out of a warehouse located at 1307 4th Street, N.E., and were supposed to be housing children at 3918/3920 W St., N.W.

The information was specific in describing "blood rituals" and sexual orgies involving children, and an as yet unsolved murder in which the Finders might be involved.

Cursory examination of documents revealed detailed instructions for optaining children for unspecified purposes. The instructions included the impregnation of female members of the community, purchasing children, trading and kidnapping. There were telex messages using MCI account numbers between a computer terminal believed to be in the same room, and others located across the country and in foreign locations.

There were pictures of nude children and adult Finders, as well as evidence of high-tech money transfers. There was a file called "Pentagon Break-in," and references to activities in Moscow, Hong Kong, China, Malaysia, North Vietnam, North Korea, Africa, London, Germany, "Europe" and the Bahamas.

There was also a file labeled "Palestinian."

One such telex specifically ordered the purchase of two children in Hong Kong to be arranged through a contact in the Chinese Embassy there. Other documents identified interests in high-tech transfers to the United Kingdom, numerous properties under the control of the Finders, a keen interest in terrorism, explosives, and the evasion of law enforcement.

There was also a set of instructions that appeared to broadcast via computer an advisory to the participants to keep the children moving through different jurisdictions and instructions on how to avoid police detection.

A photo album contained a series of photos of adults and children dressed in white sheets participating in a blood ritual. The ritual centered around the execution of at least two goats. The photos portrayed the execution, disembowelment, skinning and dismemberment of the goats at the hands of the children. This included the removal of the testes of a male goat, the discovery of a female goat's "womb" and the "baby goats" inside the womb, and the presentation of the goat's head to one of the children.

There was also a large amount of data collected on various child care organizations.

The warehouse contained a large library, two kitchens, a sauna, hot tub and a 'video room.' The video room seemed to be set up as an indoctrination center. The organization had the ability to produce its own videos. There appeared to be training areas for the children and what appeared to be an altar set up in a residential area of the warehouse. Many jars of urine and feces were located in this area.

Group leader Marion Pettie spoke in an interview in Steamshovel Press in 1998, noting that in World War II he kept house maintly to intelligence people in Washington and OSS people passing through.

Official US Customs investigation reports which have been completely authenticated by the investigating officers who wrote them and by a well respected investigator who personally knows these Customs officials are irrefutable evidence that:

1. A case of obvious child neglect/abuse involving child pedophile sexual abuse/child pornography/Satanic cult ritualistic abuse wherein the perpetrators were caught directly in the act by law enforcement, arrested on the basis of irrefutable evidence at the scene, and faced serious charges which typically bring sentences of decades in prison.

2. Search warrants were obtained for the "Finders" cult office in Washington, DC and a complete search was enacted by law enforcement which provided irrefutable pictures, movies and documents of such abuse/neglect evidence and access to the confidential arrest reports on the "Finders" cult from the arrests in Tallahassee which occurred only a day earlier (suggesting very high level connections to US intelligence in and of itself.)

3. All investigation of the "Finders" cult by the FBI, US Customs and local law enforcement was ordered stopped by the US Justice Department on the grounds of "national security" and the matter of the "Finders" cult was turned over to the Central Intelligence Agency as an "internal security matter," since the "Finders" is and has been a domestic and international covert operation of the Central Intelligence Agency.

4. Any and all investigation of the "Finders" was immediately stopped, all evidence was supressed and denied, and the abused children were released back to the adult perpetrators who had been arrested "in the act" and the CIA resumed its ongoing covert operation of the "Finders" cult which is used to procure and produce. The story of the Finders cult is the story of the development of child/assets to be used to entrap politicians, diplomats; corporate and law enforcement officials; to sell child/victims to wealthy perverts to raise money for covert operations, to train some of the child/victims to be professional operatives and assassins of a totally cold, multiple personality, mind control nature.

To date only one media outlet has dared publish anything about this (US News).

In the last few years there have been more "smoking guns" proving that US intelligence agencies traffic in children, sell them and abuse them. Some of these covert operations have been tied to long term and massive importation, and distribution of narcotics into the US by the same iintelligence agencies.

BELOW IS AN ARCHIVE OF EXISTING RECORDS INVOLVING THIS CHILLING STORY OF CIA INVOLVEMENT IN CHILD RITUAL SEXUAL ABUSE.

I am presenting this U.S. Custom Service Document (1) and news article (2) for the purpose of discussion of Satanic ritualistic abuse of children;that an organized, computer-literate, terrorist group, "The Finders", was found in participation of the Satanic ritualistic abuse of children (1) and that, with the coming of Millennium Prophecy, more groups may form with Satanism used for the empowerment of their agenda; that "The Finders", were found to be group involved in "competitor intelligence for a variety of mostly foreign clients" (2) and were headquartered in Washington DC close to governmental facilities raising the legitimate question of connections between Satanic ritualistic abuse of children and government agencies; that evidence was found for international connections in "London, Germany, the Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa, Costa Rica, and "Europe." There was also a file identified as "Palestinian." (1) This Customs report raises the legitimate question of international connections for Satanic ritualistic abuse of children.

In a recent letter to Congresswoman Tauscher I wrote: 'In the latter regard, I think the populations at risk of targetting by Satanic Cults may be younger teens and preteens who are Internet proficient. In an article on Internet pedophiles: "pedophiles are using digital cameras to televise live, interactive molestations in cyberspace" ("Cops Go Undercover Online to Nab Internet Pedophiles", SF Chronicle, December 7, 1998; pg A21). It was of further curiosity to me that the Internet child molestations cases in the later article did not mention a possible link to Satanic Cults opening up the question of whether or not Satanic Cults 'recruit' children off the Internet for Satanic Rituals.

I would say that, on the behalf of the children and adults who have been subjected to Satanic ritualistic abuse that these acts are not be tolerated; that parents need to feel that their children are safe from this threat; and that any hint of it should be rapidly and throughly investigated as hate crimes in thought and deed.

(1) http://members.tripod.com/~Curio_5_/findcst.htm (http://members.tripod.com/%7ECurio_5_/findcst.htm) [link no longer accessible on the Internet]

United States Customs Service Documentshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFT_5Mt2i7g

hunkahunka

28-07-2008, 07:00 PM

good general information short video on mind control
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3513712543174445497&q=mind+control+in+america&ei=cvuNSNbhGY32-gHl4p2eDg&hl=en

hunkahunka

28-07-2008, 07:12 PM

check out this interview of Rusty Nelson, whistleblower photographer for CIA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_4wyBGVxughttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2q8MX54M18&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zABxagTSExI&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laYjyZruZK0&feature=related
ATTN: Interviewer Michael Corbin died March 18, 2008, under mysterious circumstances. See www.freerangehumans.net (http://www.freerangehumans.net) for details.:
Rusty was jailed to silence him a few days days after this interview December 4, 2005.

krakhead

28-07-2008, 09:16 PM

emerald

28-07-2008, 09:50 PM

http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/a-line/kohls-rocks-out-with-avril-lavigne/8

cheeb

28-07-2008, 11:22 PM

http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/a-line/kohls-rocks-out-with-avril-lavigne/8

Avril Lavinge.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/662/avrillavignepregnantqm8.jpg

Butterfly and Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger..

Her Father Called Her Abbey Dawn As A Child...
I Was Listening And Spit Me Cofee Out,
It Sounded Like Her Father Called Her Abbadon..

Abbadon
Abaddon (Hebrew אבדון Avaddon, meaning "destruction"). In Biblical references (Job 26:6; Proverbs 15:11), it comes to mean "place of destruction", or the realm of the dead, and is associated with Sheol. Abaddon is also one of the compartments of Gehenna. By extension, it can mean an underworld abode of lost souls, or hell. In some legends, it is identified as a realm where the damned lie in fire and snow, one of the places in Hell that Moses visited.

In Revelation 9:11, it is personified as Abaddon, "Angel of the Abyss", rendered in Greek as Apollyon; and he is described as king of the locusts which rose at the sounding of the fifth trumpet. In like manner, in Rev. vi. 8, Hades is personified following after death to conquer the fourth part of the earth.

Abaddon is one of the infernal names used in LaVeyan Satanism, and is first in the list—only as it comes first alphabetically—and means "the destroyer."

Another Princess Altar

americana

28-07-2008, 11:30 PM

krakhead

28-07-2008, 11:40 PM

mrguitarbear

29-07-2008, 12:29 AM

One of those things?

What would it trigger though? I still have no clearer idea as to who is being triggered and for what what purpose.

Psychologist Cory Hammond of the University of Utah has lectured on what he believes to be the Satanic techniques of mind control. He claims that a team of Nazi doctors had been conducting mind control experiments in concentration camps. They came to the US after the war to secretly continue their experiments for the CIA. They allegedly programmed and tortured children on army bases across the US. At this time, the CIA, NASA, the Mafia, Hollywood and some business leaders are part of a massive, tightly controlled Satanic network which is gearing up to rule the world. He asserts that children are programmed from age 3 to teenage years; this involves disorienting noise, flashing lights and electric shocks. He believes that alters are created to perform specific functions. Programmed is done in layers; some are:

Alpha layer is general programming
Beta controls sexual behavior including knowledge to make kiddy-porn
Delta are assassins and are responsible for slashing
Theta are psychic killers; through mental energy, they can cause another person to develop a malignant brain tumor
Omega self-mutilate and commit suicide
Gamma provide misinformation and create confusion
Zeta has information to produce snuff films...

A person with MPD called "all of us" has described a color programming method that she believes is in standard use by Satanists worldwide. One color is associated with each alter or grouping of similar alters; it may be the clothes' color that they are visualized as wearing, or the color of the "room" that they live in. Pink are infant alters; red are Witches and sexually compliant alters; black perform rituals; purple are the supervisors; light blue protect the body; dark blue protect the cult; orange handle emergencies; yellows are spiritual alters; green alters maintain ties to the family or origin; browns are disguise alters; sliver are alters with ESP powers; gold are the senior administrators; white is the principle personality; platinum is the ultimate authority.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/mind_cnt.htm

As far as I understand it , use of a trigger such as a codeword can change the behaviour of a Monarch slave by activating an alter personality which has been programmed into them via rape , mental abuse and torture.

Placement into high positions in the music industry ( or film industry ) is a reward for being a loyal ' slave ' : the imagery used in album artwork , song titles and videos is used to reveal who is under mind control and who isn't - but only to those in ' the know ' so to speak.

When I say a loyal slave , I mean a ' sex slave ' essentially , but slaves can also be used to perform other tasks depending on what is required of them. The CIA has a huge amount of secret control over the entertainment and media industries and they can reward their favourite slaves by making them famous.

I believe Denver Airport is something to do with the mind control programme ; as well as the weird imagery in the halls there is rumoured to be a vast complex of tunnels underneath. I remember a story on the Net of how a guy got on the wrong plane at Denver and the plane was just full of young children , he got off again and he didn't find out what happened to them.

cheeb

29-07-2008, 12:40 AM

Jeff Gannom
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9411/jeffgannon1nq0.jpg

Johnny Gosch was kidnapped in 1982. His mother Noreen apparently could not get the assistance of law enforcement

Then in February, 2005, there surfaced a fellow named Jeff Gannon. He was a major player in a District of Columbia Escort Service. Plain spoken folks would label it simply a male call service, or a male whorehouse. Gannon was a reputed reporter for a little-known news service owned by one of George W. Bush's pals in Texas; a news operation now defunct.

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/6715/bushgannonthumbhc1.jpg

Gannon apparently got into the White House and stayed with or visited, upstairs, with the occupant and resident, namely George W. Bush. Some contend the U.S. Secret Service, contrary to what they are required, did NOT log in Gannon.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3712/whugsgannonsp0.jpg

Gannon alias Gosch received reportedly directly from George W. Bush in the White House and/or right nearby, the secret American CIA records used to blow the cover of CIA operative Valerie Plame. The result was that some of the 70 CIA penetration agents, supervised by Plame, operating in countries very hostile to the U.S. were identified and murdered. Blowing the cover of Plame was a reprisal against her husband, a former U.S. Ambassador who criticized George W. Bush.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5495/bushkissesgannonhv0.jpg

In so doing, George W. Bush committed treason and violated a federal criminal provision having a severe penalty for blowing the cover of a CIA operative.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9818/phoa91v1rk4.jpg

George Herbert Walker Bush, a concealed pedophile, was instrumental in running a teen-ager prostitution ring, Omaha, Nebraska, Chicago, District of Columbia. Early on not mentioning the Elder Bush by name, was a privately printed book on the subject, "The Franklin Cover-Up", by John DeCamp, a Nebraska State Senator. The forward to the book mentions a colleague of DeCamp, former (and now late) Director of Central Intelligence William Colby. DeCamp says he participated with Colby in Viet Nam, in "pacifying" the Viet Cong and others, through the Phoenix Assassination Program.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8483/phoenixos1.gif

In what is unlikely to stem the controversy surrounding disgraced White House correspondent James Guckert, the Secret Service has furnished logs of the writer’s access to the White House after requests by two Democratic congressmembers.

The documents, obtained by Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY) and Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) through a Freedom of Information Act request, reveal Guckert had remarkable access to the White House. Though he wrote under the name Jeff Gannon, the records show that he applied with his real name.

Gannon’s ready access to President Bush and his work for a news agency that frequently plagiarized content from other reporters and tailored it to serve a conservative message may raise new questions about the White House’s attempts to seed favorable news coverage. Democrats have sought to paint Guckert in the context of other efforts by the Administration to “plant” positive spin by paying for video news releases and columnists to espouse their views.

Guckert made more than 200 appearances at the White House during his two-year tenure with the fledging conservative websites GOPUSA and Talon News, attending 155 of 196 White House press briefings. He had little to no previous journalism experience, previously worked as a male escort, and was refused a congressional press pass.

Perhaps more notable than the frequency of his attendance, however, is several distinct anomalies about his visits.

Guckert made more than two dozen excursions to the White House when there were no scheduled briefings. On many of these days, the Press Office held press gaggles aboard Air Force One—which raises questions about what Guckert was doing at the White House. On other days, the president held photo opportunities.

On at least fourteen occasions, Secret Service records show either the entry or exit time missing. Generally, the existing entry or exit times correlate with press conferences; on most of these days, the records show that Guckert checked in but was never processed out.

In March, 2003, Guckert left the White House twice on days he had never checked in with the Secret Service. Over the next 22 months, Guckert failed to check out with the Service on fourteen days. On several of these visits, Guckert either entered or exited by a different entry/exit point than his usual one. On one of these days, no briefing was held; on another, he checked in twice but failed to check out.

“I’d be worried if I was the White House and I knew that a reporter with a day pass never left,” one White House reporter told RAW STORY. “I’d wonder, where is he hiding? It seems like a security risk.”

Others who have covered the White House say not checking in or out with the Secret Service is unusual, especially in the wake of Sept. 11. The Secret Service declined to comment.

“We responded to the FOIA request and can provide no further information,” Service spokesman Jonathan Cherry said.

Guckert declined to comment, directing all questions to the Service.

The records furnished by the Service are unlikely to finally answer who approved Gannon’s “temporary” day passes into the presidential residence. The Service keeps a record of who approved passes only for the last sixty days; previous records are kept by the White House.

Since December 2004, all but one of Gannon’s forty-eight temporary appointments were requested by Lois Cassano, a White House Press Office media assistant. One additional request was made by Peter Watkins, a press assistant who now works as deputy press secretary to First Lady Laura Bush.

Guckert sometimes stayed for an extended period of time before and after press conferences, particularly early in his tenure. This was especially common during his first few months, when he might be in the White House for as long as six hours.

A White House reporter dismissed this as insignificant, noting that sometimes reporters stay between events.

“You could probably find people who stayed there for nine hours,” the reporter said.

Occasionally, the former Talon News reporter visited the White House twice on the same day. This was also most common in the early months.

The Secret Service furnished the records after a Freedom of Information Act request from Reps. John Conyers (D-MI) and Louise Slaughter (D-NY).

Guckert drew fire from liberals after asking a question of President Bush earlier this year in which he misquoted the Democratic Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV). Investigative bloggers at Daily Kos and AmericaBlog.org discovered that Guckert owned male escort sites, and was himself a male prostitute.

Blackmail;
Control,
Power..

Are The Reason For Creating MK Ultra Operatives...

mrguitarbear

29-07-2008, 12:44 AM

Nancy Reagan's Secret Service code name was RAINBOW. :)

She often wore RED. In fact, the color became known as "Reagan Red" in the days of the Reagan presidency. ;)

Draw your own conclusions.

Nancy Reagan was supposedly a prostitute working for the Hollywood studios in the period around WW2 before she met Ronnie , it was her job to provide sexual favours for any visiting dignitaries or important guests. The official portrait of her shows her wearing a long red dress , an archetypal ' scarlet woman '.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Nancy_Reagan_official_White_House_portrait.jpg

americana

29-07-2008, 12:47 AM

One of those things?

What would it trigger though? I still have no clearer idea as to who is being triggered and for what what purpose.

In terms of Nancy Reagan, really, I'm just shooting from the hip, so to speak. I'm not saying that she WAS mind-controlled, just hypothesizing.

My father bought Kitty Kelley's unauthorized bio this weekend at a thrift shop, and I was glancing through it, only to see that her Secret Service code name was Rainbow. Hmmmm, I thought!

That, along with the omnipresent RED, was intriguing.

Her behavior was perhaps mind-control. I don't know how old you are, but you may recall the spaced-out, adoring way she looked at her husband. This was called "The Gaze". Dissociating?

It is thought, esp. after the assassination attempt on President Reagan, that she "ran" the country. Was she, however, being run?

Her astrologer color-coded the President's schedule! Certain things could only be done on certain color days. That in itself is notable!

So, we have a delusional First Lady under the spell of so-called psychics, a President with Alzheimer's, who was VERY ILL when he was shot, much more so than we were ever told at the time . .. .

and we have an expressly POLITICAL reasoning for all of this . . .

There's also tons of intriguing things in her background - - the education at Smith (finishing school for wives of the powerful), the acting career (Donovan's Brain a very suggestive movie!!), the relationship with Sinatra (the Manchurian Candidate, himself involved with MK Ultra), etc., etc.

hunkahunka

29-07-2008, 01:10 AM

Another purpose for placing mk slaves in the media is to put them into positions to influence public opinion on certain issues. The gay

agenda, and the closely related 'environmental movement', are classic examples of this. Once these people are 'programmed' with certain

views, & certain 'lifestyles', they are made icons and cultural 'leaders' to lead larger numbers of mk slaves and recruited young people.

These large numbers of people , some with high standing in society, can then exert peer pressure on the masses to go along with

whatever their agenda, with the help of a controlled and censored media. Anyone notice how silent most celebrities are on the major

issues, such as the Iraq war, or 9/11? No coincidence. I used to think people were just brainwashed

by the media. Now I know that many are literally brainwashed.

I think the level of secrecy surrounding all of this makes the use of secret network symbols etc. necessary.

By means of these symbols, 'insiders' can communicate with each other , and find out who to do

business with, who is associated with who, who is 'kosher' etc.

mrguitarbear

29-07-2008, 01:12 AM

Blackmail;
Control,
Power..

Are The Reason For Creating MK Ultra Operatives...

This is obviously true to some extent , but I think the main reason is to provide compliant sex slaves for the rich and powerful. The ' Eyes Wide Shut ' sort of thing that Stanley Kubrick revealed before he died : Jeff Gannon is a slave used to fulfil George W. Bush's homosexual needs.

The possibility for blackmail over illicit sex and drug use is there however , and a slave can be deployed for blackmail purposes if required.

A second reason to create mind control slaves is to provide potential assassins who can be used when needed - Jack Ruby , Sirhan Sirhan , Valerie Solanas , Mark Chapman and Cho Seung-Hi for example.

Slaves can be used to do the CIA's dirty work while being programmed not to reveal their connections to the Agency.

hunkahunka

29-07-2008, 01:37 AM

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 02:00 AM

Who exactly, in your opinions (I guess I'm talking to the ones who have made 'THE' thread their own) are all these 'triggers' aimed at?

The use of rainbows, smileys, the color red, angels etc. etc. - who would be triggered to do what?

Genuine question btw.

Honest :)

Hi krakhead :)

can only answer for myself on this one. All these triggers are aimed at anyone who has had any form of MC, starting with the mass MC of the general population, especially the younger generations, easily influenced by 'style' and the so said 'icons' that sway their ideas and choices.
The further up the scale of MC abuse and horror you go, the more specific these triggers become. They can target these MC victims into doing whatever it is that they have been 'trained' in to doing / saying / reacting to certain colours, words, smells etc, and these are catered to each group and vary enormously in their inferance, the objects etc may be similar, just not the consistancy that would seem 'logical'. That would make it far too easy to understand, work out and then break up, outside perceptions must be that the victims are crazy, the info must be inconsistent, and it all worked very well until the likes of Cathy Obrien, Svali, Cisco etc... started to remember, the volume of people attempting to break their programming, the information learnt and shared and the good old www have allowed for far more people to recognise the patterns and question the consistancies that keep appearing over and over again,

hope that helped a bit

brown.

PS just read some of the other opinions and comments, I have to say that when this term 'sex slave' is used, there is mention of EWS and 'servicing the powers that be' All or pretty much all the DID survivors, they are DID survivors because they have been used a sex slaves from a very, very young age, and children grow up, the supply of children is very, very important.
Triggered to act crazy, triggered to starve, triggered to s*lf harm, triggered to stop thinking, triggered to commit sui, triggered to remember to forget progging, on and on....so many triggers for everything

hunkahunka

29-07-2008, 02:34 AM

http://americansfortruth.com/uploads/2007/05/nambla_bulletin.jpg

http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/nirvana_nevermind_cover.jpg

Lyrics to the Nirvana song 'In Bloom', from the album 'Nevermind':

Sell the kids for food
Weather changes moods
Spring is here again
Reproductive glands

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what means
knows no what it means
when I say yeeeaaahhh

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

We can have some more
Nature is a whore
Bruises on the fruit
Tender age in bloom

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say yeeeaaahhh

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
when I say

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
knows not what it means
knows not what it means
knows not what it means and I say yeeeaaah----------------------

"weather changes moods": we might be depressed about selling the kids, but spring will come again, and we can
reproduce again, ie: replace them by having sex in the spring.
'we can have some more' , imo, means,
"we are selling our children, but we can always have some more kids, and we need the money, so let them go"
"nature is a whore": we are harnessing and perverting nature's process of reproduction , for money
"bruises on the fruit": means the parents consider their own kids to be just damaged produce,
to be sold into the market

MGB, re: your observation that Krist Novoselic may have been Cobain's
handler, and that Keanu Reaves character of Scott Favor in 'My Own Private Idaho'
was based on Krist :

imo, the song 'In Bloom' is about families giving up their children to mk,
and in the official Nirvana video for 'In Bloom', you can see Cobain regressing to his MK gay programming in this video, and interesting , it is with Krist Novoselic: his handler.

check it out:
video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3oEvaq71A

cheeb

29-07-2008, 02:35 AM

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/01/03/svekla.jpg

Accused killer Thomas George Svekla is escorted from the Fort Saskatchewan courthouse on Thursday morning. Svekla is suspected of murdering Theresa Innes whose body was found in a hockey bag in a Fort Saskatchewan home on Sunday night. (SUN/Jordan Verlage)

Svelka...
May 11th, 2006

The Edmonton Sun reported that Svekla claimed to have discovered the dead body of prostitute Rachel Quinney in June of 2004.

Andrew Hanon

The Sun's Andrew Hanon (left) said Svekla told him he'd taken a prostitute to a remote area northeast of Sherwood Park to do drugs. For some reason, the prostitute bolted from his pick-up. Svekla gave chase and they came across Quinney's body.

Svekla claimed he waited two days before reporting the body to police and had asked Hanon's help in clearing his name. Svekla told the reporter late in 2004 that Project KARE had placed him under a microscope.

It was the only time Svekla met with Hanon and the RCMP refused to confirm or deny any of what Svekla had told the reporter.

Cpl. Wayne Oakes said he "won't confirm or deny Svekla was on the radar ... or any of Andrew Hanon's story."

“We are not in a position to discuss it,” he said, citing legal restriction.

Hanon described Svekla as a person "whom if you passed on the street you’d probably think was an accountant or insurance adjuster."

Thomas Svekla made a brief court appearance to face formal charges. While the hearing lasted barely five minutes, Svekla's behaviour was likely to make a more lasting impression.

Police said Innes’ body was in a hockey bag, picked up on the afternoon of May 6th, 2006 in High Level, and driven to Edmonton.

The RCMP said they would like to speak with anyone who may know of Theresa’s body having been in the back of the truck or who knowingly or unknowingly assisted with the preparation, transportation, or any other manipulation of Theresa’s body

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/962/sveklaxq3.jpg

It Should Be Obvious To Anybody,
That This Man Did Not "Work" Alone...

It was reported that Svekla was driven to Edmonton by friends.

“We’re looking for someone who may have participated in some way, be it unwittingly, in any manipulation of the body, moving it, trying to cover the vehicle, anybody who may have had any interaction,” said Bellamy.

A person described by Bellamy as a “family friend” gave Svekla – and a hockey bag – a ride to Fort Saskatchewan.

americana

29-07-2008, 02:39 AM

Hi krakhead :)

can only answer for myself on this one. All these triggers are aimed at anyone who has had any form of MC, starting with the mass MC of the general population, especially the younger generations, easily influenced by 'style' and the so said 'icons' that sway their ideas and choices.

triggered to starve,

Great post.

Do you have any further thoughts on the "triggered to starve" bit? It would seem to me that this is extremely prevalent! And very triggering to the general population of teenage girls.

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 03:13 AM

Great post.

Do you have any further thoughts on the "triggered to starve" bit? It would seem to me that this is extremely prevalent! And very triggering to the general population of teenage girls.

Food Issues
WARNING!

Hi :)

thank you.

I have many many thoughts about being triggered to st*rve, and even though I know that food issues are epidemic in the young girl / teen age group, it is the older survivors I have the most opinions on.
I saw this earlier,
http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/?blogentryid=158730&showcomments=true General forum, Airbrushing the Celebrities by Cheemflo
I particularly liked the Beonce one, oh if only these easily influenced girls (and more and more so boys - anorexia is 'supposedly' a female 'issue' :/ odd huh?) could see more of these, these (general population) girls are being influenced by some 'top quality' programming. Trying to achieve the photoshop look, naturally, then place a general population girl up against an MC eating disorder programme and watch her struggle to reach the achievements (expected / demanded) of MC, she'll manage it eventually, the ultimate of anorexia is death, *yay* for getting there, the double binds on a non MC ed's is tremendous and obscure, then add MC, these are some of the most enforced dedicated victims, with no choice but to do as their progging says. And MC proggers expect the best = dead.

brown.

hunkahunka

29-07-2008, 03:18 AM

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51X4K966Q9L._SL500_AA240_.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_OU9gW7W3rlg/R1SoSMg35DI/AAAAAAAABws/kabRYmEGGRQ/s1600-R/Vigil5.jpg

http://bp3.blogger.com/_OU9gW7W3rlg/SAgtyvHjxaI/AAAAAAAACj0/2Ltj0nA1jm8/s400/Lobby+Day+2.jpg
Catholic Rainbow Parents

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h210/HellboundAlleee/lgpp0127bungle-george-zippy-rainbow.jpg

http://www.kruc.ca/images/KRU_Rainbow.JPG

http://www.fpcstl.org/picture_files/RainbowSign.jpg
First Presbyterian Church

http://www.greystreetunitedchurch.com/images/rainbow.jpg
Grey Street United Church

http://www.parkhillchurch.org/images/pic_rainbow_cross.gif
Parkhill Congregational Church

http://www.angelsofloveandlight.co.uk/images/rainbow.gif
Spiritualist Church

http://www.stfrancisheadleydown.com/web_images/the-rainbow.jpg

cheeb

29-07-2008, 04:35 AM

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3239/alicebtoklasua8.jpg

Butterfly And L.S.D
Alice B

Surprisingly produced my a major studio, but nevertheless ultimately conservative, I Love You Alice B. Toklas is a timely comedy that attempts to caricaturize the clash and continuities between the "American way of life" as it was known before the 60s and the hippie movement. Directed by Hy Averack in 1968, it tells the story of Harold Fine, an asthmatic Jewish lawyer who lives out this tension, slides between these two models and "evolves as a human being" in the process

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9814/alicebwt0.jpg
Sellers And Butterfly..

. The trigger for such a change is... a woman; or better yet: two women and a dozen marijuana brownies. By embracing the beautiful, sweet, libertarian hippie girl, and rejecting the exhaustive emotional parasite who wants to drag him into a colorless marriage, Harold engages with the Mondo Teeth universe, a world where gurus tell you parables and make riddles about flowers, where junkies bathe in your tub with their clothes on, where directors make extra-long movies about dental realities, and where "it is very unhip to say you're hip". The film is equally sympathetic to both parties, the hip and the square, and concludes by arguing that true freedom and humanity is to be found outside the chartered territories of hypocritical conservatorism and the oft-silly "counterculture" of the 60s.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/365/alicemainfa0.gif

Alice And Butterflys...

Alice B Tolkas
Early life, relationship with Gertrude Stein

She was born Alice Babette Toklas in San Francisco, California into a middle-class Jewish family and attended schools in both San Francisco and Seattle. For a short time she also studied music at the University of Washington. She met Stein in Paris on September 8, 1907 on the first day that she arrived. Together they hosted a salon that attracted expatriate American writers, such as Ernest Hemingway, Paul Bowles, Thornton Wilder and Sherwood Anderson, and avant-garde painters, including Picasso, Matisse and Braque.

After Stein

After the death of Gertrude Stein, Toklas published her own literary memoir, a 1954 book that mixed reminiscences and recipes under the title The Alice B. Toklas Cookbook. The most famous recipe therein (actually contributed by her friend Brion Gysin) was called "Hashish Fudge", a mixture of fruit, nuts, spices, and "cannabis sativa" [sic], or marijuana. Her name was later lent to the range of cannabis concoctions called Alice B. Toklas brownies. The cookbook has not been out of print since it was published

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/646/alicemushroomsuv6.jpg
Alice And Mushrooms..

Hofmann joined the pharmaceutical-chemical department of Sandoz Laboratories (now Novartis), located in Basel as a co-worker with professor Arthur Stoll, founder and director of the pharmaceutical department . He began studying the medicinal plant squill and the fungus ergot as part of a program to purify and synthesize active constituents for use as pharmaceuticals where his main contribution was to elucidate the chemical structure of the common nucleus of Scilla glycosides(an active principal of Mediterranean Squill) . While researching lysergic acid derivatives, Hofmann first synthesized LSD-25 in 1938, the main intention of the synthesis however was to obtain a respiratory and circulatory stimulant (an analeptic). It was set aside for five years, until April 16, 1943, when Hofmann decided to take another look at it. While re-synthesizing LSD, he accidentally absorbed a small quantity through his fingertips and serendipitously discovered its powerful effects before his bicycle ride home.

From The Film...
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6937/alicemansonui1.jpg

Sellers And Manson Like Guru...

Manson Killed Off The Hippie Movement...

Literally....

cheeb

29-07-2008, 05:28 AM

' Riding the Light ' ? Maybe ' Ride the Lightning ' ?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/matthewnewton/ridefront.jpg

Just Looking Back On This Thread,

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9458/ridersonthestormky1.jpg

There Is A Huge Amount Of Information Going On...

:)

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 05:32 AM

Just Looking Back On This Thread,
There Is A Huge Amount Of Information Going On...:)

Hiya

there most certainly is, ac / dc have so many songs about lightening / switching / sex

brown.

cheeb

29-07-2008, 06:03 AM

Hiya

there most certainly is, ac / dc have so many songs about lightening / switching / sex

brown.

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5995/acdchighvoltagerz7.jpg

No Thanks,,
Bit Too Krankie For Me...

The Krankies are a Scottish comedy duo that enjoyed success as a cabaret act in the 1970s and on television in the 1980s, featuring in their own television shows and releasing their own music single.

The duo comprise wife Janette Tough and her husband Ian Tough. As the Krankies they portray schoolboy Wee Jimmy Krankie (Janette), and Jimmy's father (Ian), though in their comedy act they also portray other characters.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3164/krankiesacdcrm1.jpg

Not Mind Controlled This One,
Just A Cabaret Act That Got It Oh So Wrong...!!!!

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8928/mutley1oj3.gif

hunkahunka

29-07-2008, 12:31 PM

http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/alicepic/disney-movie/march-of-the-cards-5.jpg

In this image it appears that Alice is set to be decapitated by the Qu een of Hearts' card army, alongside the gardener cards.

Note Alice's blue dress

http://homepage2.nifty.com/backpagerecords/NirvanaHeartShapedBoxCDM.jpg

http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/alicepic/disney-movie/alice-with-queen-of-hearts.jpg
http://dailycontempt.com/wp-content/uploads/courtney-love-no-make-up1.jpg
Courtney Love {no makeup}

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radioassets/photos/2006/12/18/10271_2.jpg
Courtney Love making a full-bodied appearance as the Queen of Hearts at the wedding reception for British comedian Matt Lucas and TV producer Kevin McGee. Also in attendance at the costume-themed bash: Elton John, dressed as Captain Hook.

http://the-rudy.com/images/nvn_kurt-dress_b-up.jpg
Kurt Cobain in blue dress

http://static.flickr.com/36/92742187_65f65ac492.jpg
The Queen of Diamonds card was used as a trigger symbol in the
film 'The Manchurian Candidate'.

http://celluloidheroreviews.com/images/manchurian-candidate.jpg
Raymond Shaw is an unwitting Communist sleeper agent whose actions are triggered by a Queen of Diamonds playing card. When he sees it, he will obey the next suggestion or order given to him. His intended role is that of a killer who, while carrying out his assignments, must also kill any witnesses and then forget his actions. As the brainwasher, Dr. Yen, in Marco's Manchurian nightmare, explains: Shaw's brain hasn't just been "washed," it has been dry-cleaned. To test the assassin's conditioning, Dr. Yen orders Shaw to kill his newspaper publisher employer.

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Courtney Love

soulja

29-07-2008, 02:23 PM

can only answer for myself on this one. All these triggers are aimed at anyone who has had any form of MC, starting with the mass MC of the general population, especially the younger generations, easily influenced by 'style' and the so said 'icons' that sway their ideas and choices.
The further up the scale of MC abuse and horror you go, the more specific these triggers become. They can target these MC victims into doing whatever it is that they have been 'trained' in to doing / saying / reacting to certain colours, words, smells etc, and these are catered to each group and vary enormously in their inferance, the objects etc may be similar, just not the consistancy that would seem 'logical'. That would make it far too easy to understand, work out and then break up, outside perceptions must be that the victims are crazy, the info must be inconsistent, and it all worked very well until the likes of Cathy Obrien, Svali, Cisco etc... started to remember, the volume of people attempting to break their programming, the information learnt and shared and the good old www have allowed for far more people to recognise the patterns and question the consistancies that keep appearing over and over again,

hope that helped a bit

brown.

PS just read some of the other opinions and comments, I have to say that when this term 'sex slave' is used, there is mention of EWS and 'servicing the powers that be' All or pretty much all the DID survivors, they are DID survivors because they have been used a sex slaves from a very, very young age, and children grow up, the supply of children is very, very important.
Triggered to act crazy, triggered to starve, triggered to s*lf harm, triggered to stop thinking, triggered to commit sui, triggered to remember to forget progging, on and on....so many triggers for everything

great post brown ;)

also often those cues, symbols etc.. are put out to simply reinforce programing themes, it doesn't necessarily require the MK victim to switch alters as it reinforces programing on a subconscious level. (non-front alters)

the abuse the victims are subjected too from day1 lays the foundation for the programing sessions that are done in military bases, underground labs and so on. once this is done the programs/alters need to be triggered/reinforced to relive/re-experience the memories/programing.

similar to the way the public is brainwashed into believing something.
it's done via constant repetition, once the basic story (i.e an event) is told all it needs is constant repetition of key elements of that story.
same goes for symbols, once a story/meaning is associated with certain symbols, the displaying of one of those symbols will be enough to ''remind'' the observer of the story/meaning.

soulja

29-07-2008, 02:28 PM

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/84/55/23295584.jpg

http://www.caufields.com/productimages/Halloween/Mask/Images/37_33533.jpg

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/1002/24129.JPG

http://www.styleofeye.com/images/monarch-butterfly-mask1.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/Charli_Baltimore16.jpg
Charli Baltimore

soulja

29-07-2008, 02:33 PM

heart and key are yet two more Symbols tied into mk.. if someone thinks im stretching it now, do some research :D
Oz Books and therein found importance of keys and hearts to the characters is a good starting point, as is simply observing how many celebs wear hearts around their necks or wrists.

two quick examples;
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/Anitababe/mk/262271Avril-Lavigne-Posters.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/news.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/EmmaWatson_Grani_743903_400.jpg
visit the official site and what you see ? a butterfly (amongst other symbols like the heart, Eye etc..)
http://www.emmawatsonofficial.com/

this one is also interesting, butterfly wings and note the same pose as mariah does on the rainbow cover.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2258/thanksrr9.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/34cover7110118866.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/ashanti-red-dress.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/avril_lavigne_did_you_think_I_was_g.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/avril_lavigne.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/alice.gif

soulja

29-07-2008, 02:34 PM

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/cove-album-cover-ashanti.jpg
ashanti album cover

soulja

29-07-2008, 02:43 PM

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/ghostdanceCD.jpg
Death Cult album cover, one of their songs is called ''Butterflies''

that skull&bones Mickey Mouse hybrid symbol is popping up in all sorts of places btw. remember the Lily Allen cover ?
http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000G04UUU.01._SS400_SCLZZZZZZZ_V64382018_.jpg

next one is the Album Cover of the Dutch Masonic Youth
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/Anitababe/smittekilde-1.jpg

also note in the first example the X. Mark of Cain, bloodline reference (one line crossing another) also a chosen one (subject for MK)
people need to display certain traits (high intelligence, ability to disassociate easely and so on) to be chosen for MK.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/383741.jpg
in one of her videos (think it's 'girlfriend') she draws an X on a mirror)

soulja

29-07-2008, 02:49 PM

i wouldn't post the next one if it wasn't for hunka going on about the canibalistic reality to it all.

Ted Nugent album cover
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/nugent-2.jpg

btw the special edition features a real woman
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/lovegrenadespecial.jpg

is this a message ? the normal edition is a toon style woman, means it's not real just a fantasy wich for most people cannibalism is.

however the special edition feats a real woman telling us that for special people (i.e Illuminati/Elite) it's not just a fantasy but real ?

could be reading too much into it tho :D

anyway, ted nugent also made a track for this album
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/cd.jpg

soulja

29-07-2008, 02:56 PM

German artist ''la Fee'' (fee = fairy in german)
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/37272.jpg
two personalities/dark alter reference

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/murphy-pixie.jpg
Britany Murphy

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/bestofCover_lrg.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/album_cover_monarch_white.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/nxky_single.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/shery-cover-solo.jpg

soulja

29-07-2008, 03:01 PM

http://machomedia.hu/old/vt52_butterflycover.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/n190997.jpg

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 03:12 PM

[QUOTE=mrguitarbear;437675
I believe Denver Airport is something to do with the mind control programme ; as well as the weird imagery in the halls there is rumoured to be a vast complex of tunnels underneath. I remember a story on the Net of how a guy got on the wrong plane at Denver and the plane was just full of young children , he got off again and he didn't find out what happened to them.[/QUOTE]

http://www.policestateplanning.com/new_world_order_mural_in_denver_airport.htm some observations stated here, to give new people some ideas about these murals

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/DenverAirport01.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/DenverAirport05.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/DenverAirport06.jpg

brown.

soulja

29-07-2008, 03:16 PM

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/american_mcgee__s_alice_by_lampades.jpg

What wrong, Alice?'
My parents are gone...'
What else is wrong, Alice?'
'Something is... broken...'
'What is broken, Alice?'
'I am...'

Beyond a shattered looking glass...
Fairytale becomes nightmare...
Imagination becomes madness...
Toys become weapons...
Friend becomes foe...
And time is running out...
Alice grew up...
So did Wonderland...

'But I don't want to go among mad people.'
'Oh, you can't help that. The're all mad here!'

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/alice-2.jpg
the cheshire cat serves as her familiar spirit. people in the illuminati will often have familiar spirits and it's a concept (programing) you'll see quiet often in movies (especially children flicks) one example would be ''the Golden Compass''

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/shortcake.jpg

disney released paintings to celebrate their "Year of a Million Dreams."

http://bp3.blogger.com/_lnyC6Jp1oh0/RbtvOLGS3mI/AAAAAAAAAME/CClHgE_tKRk/s400/disney1.JPG
Beyonce as "Alice"

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Scarlett Johansson as "Cinderella"

soulja

29-07-2008, 03:26 PM

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/53476162pw7.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/27086dc2930b4e94a8458fbvz3.jpg

hunkahunka

29-07-2008, 03:48 PM

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2007/10/teri-hatcher-queen-of-hearts.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1339/1308795274_4bd713ca3f.jpg?v=0
the Queen of Hearts, and the rabbit 'hole'.

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 04:00 PM

i wouldn't post the next one if it wasn't for hunka going on about the canibalistic reality to it all.
is.

Meatloaf, again?
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/meatloafagain.jpg

brown.

cheeb

29-07-2008, 04:13 PM

Rock Music

I believe that Brittany Spears, Eminem, and others are being used by them to sing lyrics they like (ever notice that he wears a Neo-Nazi look and sings hate lyrics? This is NOT by chance). In fact, many of the top pop singers come from an internship with the "Mickey Mouse club" (yep, good old Walt the Illuminist's Empire) and I believe they are offered stardom in exchange for allegiance or mind control. How many lyrics advocate suicide, violence, despair, or New Age spirituality in pop/rock today? Or just get a copy of the words and read (but be aware that many are possibly triggering to survivors of mind control). [/B]

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7128/brit666vx7.jpg
Mind Controlled Britney 666..

MK Ultra mind control and sexual slavery have been flourishing in America, well concealed from the mainstream of Americans who, if they knew of such a thing, would react in horror and put an end to it long ago. I provide links to every statement. Just click the link and off you go. That slavery exists is not disputed, but that America is one of the international leaders in psychological warfare and enslavement, is not known to the American public. Slavery, sexual or otherwise, MK Ultra, Monarch training, these things are topics just not discussed by polite society so, as a result, nothing is done to at least “cap” it.

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/2452/jjnj9.jpg
Justin Timberlake And M.K.Slave Janet Jackson...

Those of us who grew up in the thrall of Walt Disney had no idea of what was really going on behind the glories of Wonderland. Until a few years ago, no one knew who or what Uncle Walt really was up to when he created his empire. Every week Disney talked to the children of America and set the standards for the TV entertainment industry. Meanwhile, behind the scenes, Disney, a 33degree Mason, was heavily involved in mind control and media manipulation.

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/562/shejustsuckssobadbk1.jpg
Christina Aquellira

Once you see Walt Disney from this point of view, you might understand the ex Musketeers and their erratic behaviour in different light. Not only that but the lives and deaths of several famous stars, especially those of tormented beautiful blondes, can be more easily understood once you realize these women, and are also products of these cults. They are the Presidential models, the sex slaves and political tools of the elite. Mind control touches our lives in the most unforeseen manners and comes from the most unusual of situations SirhanSirhan, Lee Harvey Oswald, Mark Chapman, John Hinckley, Jr, were all MK Ultra weapons.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/428/loveducklardeif7.jpg
Elton

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3713/loveduckeltonandcourtneni4.jpg
Courtney and Elton...

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 04:15 PM

the Queen of Hearts, and the rabbit 'hole'.

Hi

great layering on 'hole' like that, a LOT. Thanks

brown.

PS soulja?
great posts!

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 04:16 PM

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/alice-2.jpg
the cheshire cat serves as her familiar spirit. people in the illuminati will often have familiar spirits and it's a concept (programing) you'll see quiet often in movies (especially children flicks) one example would be ''the Golden Compass''

Hi

please can someone tell me what this means....?

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/alice1a.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/digi011a.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/normal_kindlea.jpg

thanks

brown.

hunkahunka

29-07-2008, 04:42 PM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2252/2479526308_4fc36dc7c9.jpg?v=0
Marilyn Manson
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/46/141017898_a830a9e93e.jpg?v=0

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 04:52 PM

I believe that Brittany Spears, Eminem, and others are being used by them to sing lyrics they like (ever notice that he wears a Neo-Nazi look and sings hate lyrics? This is NOT by chance). In fact, many of the top pop singers come from an internship with the "Mickey Mouse club" (yep, good old Walt the Illuminist's Empire) and I believe they are offered stardom in exchange for allegiance or mind control. How many lyrics advocate suicide, violence, despair, or New Age spirituality in pop/rock today? Or just get a copy of the words and read (but be aware that many are possibly triggering to survivors of mind control).

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7128/brit666vx7.jpg
Mind Controlled Britney 666..

MK Ultra mind control and sexual slavery have been flourishing in America, well concealed from the mainstream of Americans who, if they knew of such a thing, would react in horror and put an end to it long ago. I provide links to every statement. Just click the link and off you go. That slavery exists is not disputed, but that America is one of the international leaders in psychological warfare and enslavement, is not known to the American public. Slavery, sexual or otherwise, MK Ultra, Monarch training, these things are topics just not discussed by polite society so, as a result, nothing is done to at least “cap” it.

Hey :)

Tavist*ck, UK? You'd be surprised:eek:

also 'bows'... So much layering...
our Britney is wearing one, easily colour co-ordinated,
female / hair accessories / jewellry / clothing
babies / hair / bootees / jackets
males / bowties / cufflinks(?)
bondage
rainbows

brown.

emerald

29-07-2008, 04:56 PM

Hi

please can someone tell me what this means....?

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/alice1a.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/digi011a.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/normal_kindlea.jpg

thanks

brown.

That sign represents planet JUPITER. Its like 21 or 2&4...

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 04:59 PM

That sign represents planet JUPITER. Its like 21 or 2&4...

Hiya emerald :) *waves*

thank you for that.... dashes off to do some work on Jupiter (geez... the air fare will be high though ;))lol

brown.

soulja

29-07-2008, 05:10 PM

i was asking myself the same thing about the Alice sign.

so jupiter ? btw thx emerald for pointing it out. it's synchronistic aswell cos i was just reading that article about a couple who commited suicide and one of them was thinking he's jupiter in that he had an alter ego called 'Jupiter'..

Troubling deaths of spiritual seekers: Allegations of mind control follow Dallas couple's suicide

Before they killed themselves, David and Glenda Goodman had transferred significant wealth to Terri Hoffman, their self-styled spiritual master

Dallas Morning News/January 28, 1990
By Pete Slover

Dallas - He was Jupiter and she was Venus. In their minds, David and Glenda Goodman were not a former Southern Methodist University professor and his wife; they were astral travelers, soul mates to the gods.

Long before they shot themselves in their Lake Highlands home in late October, the Goodmans had seen the "purple realm," their promised land. And, according to the couple's writings, spiritual guide Terri Hoffman has shown it to them.

They, in turn, had written checks to Hoffman for more than $110,000.

Manuscripts found in the Goodman's home show that their lives were steeped in Hoffman's teachings of gods and spirits, rays, energy and karma - teachings she had spread among a modest but tightly knit circle of followers for nearly two decades.

"You are no longer David Goodman, son of Alice & Leonard. That person is gone because the programming is wiped out. You are Jupiter now," says one passage addressed to Goodman in his wife's hand.

Yet, David Goodman's entries reflect a growing doubt, fed by a belief that the spirits are singling him out for physical and mental torture. Interspersed with the answering exhortations in Glenda Goodman's script are oblique references to drugs and guns as paths to spiritual transcendence.

Neither a suicide note nor a will has been found among the Goodman's belongings. The writings they left offer no pat answers to the puzzle of their deaths. The events described in the manuscripts are often as vague as they are enigmatic.

And yet, these scribbles offer a glimpse into lives that were deeply touched by Terri Hoffman and her teachings - and that were to end with sudden violence.

Hoffman's attorney, Fred Time, denounced the notion that Hoffman was connected with the Goodman's deaths.

When they killed themselves, the Goodmans both 48, joined seven Hoffman followers, or people who were associates of followers who have committed suicide or died in accidents since 1977.

Like the others, they had transferred significant wealth to the self-styled spiritual master, giving her checks for as much as $40,000 at a time. Writings found in the house indicate that the Goodmans were considering transferring title to a car and a home to Hoffman too.

In a pair of Dallas lawsuits, Hoffman is accused of profiting and "mind control" in the deaths of the seven who died before the Goodmans. The lawsuits, filed by Dallas attorney James Paul Barklow on behalf of survivors allege that Hoffman used hypnosis to make her associates change their wills and insurance policies to favor her and her metaphysical organization, Consciousness Development of Body, Mind, and Soul Inc.

Then, the suits allege, Hoffman caused her followers to take their own lives or suffer fatal accidents.

"This is character assassination," Time said when questioned about the writings from the Goodman's house. "You have nothing to go on... What's wrong with giving a large gift in return for spiritual guidance? Call up some of the big churches and see if anybody died and left them money."

He refused to discuss specifics of the Goodman's case or to allow Hoffman to be interviewed.

In an interview given before the Goodman's; writings came to light, Hoffman described herself as a victim of a horrific string of coincidental tragedies.

Her relationship with the Goodmans, she said, was a "very close friendship" that had trailed off to occasional phone conversations. She said she had not seen the Goodmans in person since several months before their deaths.

Police say the Goodmans had notified most of their relatives about a year ago that they wanted no further contact.

Because the bodies were badly decomposed when they were found on Nov. 25, authorities could not determine the exact circumstances of the deaths. But they have ruled that no third party participated in the shootings. It is possible, they say, that David and Glenda Goodman each committed suicide;that one shot the other and them committed suicide, or that they simultaneously shot each other.

The deaths - and the details that have surfaced since - confound those who knew only the Goodman's public personae.

He was a former SMU business and computer professor, a confident, quiet man with a dry wit and a love for sports. Berkeley and Yale-educated, he left teaching in 1987 to start an investment counseling service and newsletters.

But in the couple's writings, David Goodman is Jupiter, the Roman war god, lord of the sky. Some associates assume he adopted this alter ego in the early 1970s when he told them that Hoffman had pronounced him a reincarnated warrior.

Glenda Goodman was an articulate woman, the daughter of a respected Dallas physician, a Berkeley graduate, longtime homemaker, mother and devotee of the arts.

But in the writings, Glenda Goodman is Venus - the Roman goddess of love, adopting the role of enforcer in her and her husband's struggle to shed their earthbound, mortal selves.

The manuscripts abound with references to spirit guides known as Marcus and Terri. Scrawled on a Christmas shopping list in Glenda Goodman's hand is a triangle with the word "Christ" at the apex, "Terri" in the lower right corner and "Marcus" in the lower left . Below Terri on this flow chart is Venus; below Marcus is Jupiter.

Although Marcus appears in the spiritual realm, Terri frequently shows up on the physical plane as well.

Check registers found at the Goodman house show payments to Hoffman totaling $110,000 between late 1986 and early 1989, the last period for which records were available. Most of the payments were marked as fees of between $50 and $100 for frequent counseling sessions. Other payments were in lump sums, thousands of dollars, some of which were designated as gifts. But it was their extra-physical journeys that seemed to preoccupy the Goodmans as they chronicled their lives.

Among the writings found in the house is an account by Glenda Goodman of a meditation that took place about a year before her death: "Terri and Marcus took Jupiter and Venus by the hand and led us to a beautiful, glittering house in the purple realm. It was OUR house," she wrote. "They wanted to show us our home in the purple realm where we go to rest and renew ourselves after time in the physical."

The realm is described as a magnificent crystal city with towering temples and purifying pools.

This account closely parallels an instructional meditation lecture recorded and sold by Hoffman under the title "The Violet Flame Meditation." On that tape, Hoffman narrates a trip to a valley with a violet-roomed temple and a purifying pool.

Hoffman's teachings, as embodied in hundreds of pages of literature and hours of cassette lectures, do not conform to any major schools of religious thought.

A biography distributed by Conscious Development says Hoffman was born 51 years ago in Fort Stockton, Texas, then orphaned and adopted by a Dallas family.

However, the biography says,"Terri has always felt that the masters were her real family." The masters , it explains, are invisible beings - Christ and 11 others - who visited her when she was an infant and child and taught her to harness 'energies'"

Other masters, including Marcus - the spiritual guide in the Goodman's writings - and the Malathion, a master with the same name as an agricultural pesticide.

David Goodman first crossed paths with Terri Hoffman in the early 1970s. He began attending her meditation classes when he was a newly hired SMU professor. Goodman apparently turned to Hoffman for counseling after his divorce from his first wife, Peggy, in 1972.

"He told me he wouldn't have made it through that period without her," said one intimate friend of the Goodman's , who asked not to be identified. He said Goodman spoke often of Terri over the past 17 years, expressing awe at her powers and teachings.

After their initial meeting, Hoffman performed each of Goodman's three subsequent marriages, reportedly after approving each prospective wife as a proper "soul mate". In 1984 she presided at the wedding of David and Glenda, who had studied under Hoffman since the mid-1970s.

In 1982, David Goodman testified as a character witness for Hoffman in a lawsuit over the will of Sandra Cleaver, a follower who left her estate to Hoffman and Consciousness Development. The case was settled before a jury could reach a verdict.

Colleagues said Goodman's professional interests expanded beyond technical computer matters to finance - making money - as he studied the application of computer analysis to stock market trends in the early 1980s.

Hoffman has described herself as a financial adviser, and she apparently remained in Goodman's life as he ventured into the investment world.

In the early 1980s, co-investors said, Hoffman joined Goodman as an investor in a California real-estate partnership that later went bust.

When Goodman co-wrote an investment strategy book published in 1986, "Hyper-profits", he acknowledged Hoffman's "Inspiration and support."

And Hoffman's lawyer said that she helped Goodman begin the newsletters that grew out of the book, although that relationship ended a year later.

Glenda Goodman was vice-president of Perfume Oils International, Inc. a now defunct perfume mixing company founded by Hoffman in ;1985.

Although David Goodman specialized in giving investment advice, some of his own investments proved problematic.

Internal Revenue Service records show that in 1982 Goodman and his previous wife claimed more than $100,000 in tax shelters through Hillcrest Securities Corp., a company whose organizers later were indicted and pleaded guilty to tax fraud. Goodman and his wife were not implicated inn criminal activity but their deductions as customers of Hillcrest were disallowed, leaving a $176,000 bill for back taxes.

The appealed the ruling to the US Tax Court. A lawyer working on the case said a settlement was reached about a year ago. It would have allowed Goodman and his former wife gradually to retire a tax debt estimated at more than $300,000 - the original taxes due, plus interest, with no penalties.

According to the lawyer, no turning points in the case had occurred in the month preceding the Goodman's deaths.

Neither is there any record to indicate that the Goodmans were deeply in debt. Although a probate attorney still is working to assemble a financial post-mortem, family members play down money woes as a possible motive for the couple's suicide.

Yet the writings leave no doubt that in the months before his death, Goodman was in severe distress - both physically and mentally.

The handwritten pages range from Glenda Goodman's rapturous descriptions of encounters with the masters to the angst-filled catalogues in which David Goodman hurls questions at her and them.

"God would it be possible for you to make us feel well?" David Goodman pleads at one point. "god, I don't feel that I ;can continue."

The theme that dominates these pages, which appear to be among the more recent portions of the manuscripts, is that David-Jupiter must endure a period of painful testing in order to attain full knowledge of his spiritual self ultimately.

Police say recently that the deaths of David and Glenda Goodman are still under investigation. "Even though the evidence indicates that these two deaths were not caused by an outside agency, the unusual circumstances have caused us to keep this case open," said Deputy Chief Ray Hawkins.

Glenda Goodman's mother, who asked that her name not be published, said she had never heard of Hoffman before her daughter's death. But she expressed concern about Hoffman's influence over her daughter and others.

"I believe mind control is real. If anything can be done to stop it, it should," she said.

Glenda Goodman's children could not be reached for comment, and her sister declined to be interviewed.

David Goodman's parents, Leonard and Alice Goodman of Santa Maria, Calif., reserved judgment on Hoffman, but mourned their son.

"I never wanted to outlive any of my kids," said Leonard Goodman, 74. "It'll never be the same; 48 years of my life are gone."

David Goodman's 24-year-old son, Tony, of Dallas, said the financial exchanges with Hoffman could be explained as "wages" paid by his father to his associate in an expanding financial consulting business. He offered no comment on Hoffman, other than to say he had not noticed any ill effects she had on his father and stepmother.

David Goodman's other son, Rick, 28, of Boston has declined to comment on Hoffman and his father's death. He and his brother have resumed publication of their father's financial newsletters.

Grim roster of Hoffman followers

The deaths of David and Glenda Goodman last November were the most recent in a series of suicides and accidental deaths that have stalked the followers of self-styled spiritual leader Terri Hoffman.

In a 12-year period, several people who were followers of Hoffman or associated with followers, died in accidents or by suicide. Most of them knew each other from a weekly meditation class that Hoffman, then Terri Cooley, taught in the early 1970s at Southern Methodist University. Students said the non-accredited course was a blend of metaphysical and Eastern philosophies.

Several of those who belonged to the group or were associated with group members have since died.

They include:Glenn Cooley, the then-Teri Cooley's second husband, who committed suicide January 31, 1977 - four days after their divorce became final. Under the terms of his handwritten will, she was the sold beneficiary of his estate.

Deveraux Cleaver, the 13-year-old daughter of long-time follower Sandra Cleaver, was not a member of the group. On Feb. 25, 1979, she drowned off the island of Hawaii while swimming with her mother and another member of Terri Hoffman's group. Devereaux left a will leaving everything to Terri Hoffman.

Kenneth Wilder, Hoffman's son, who was killed when he fell from a building under construction in August 1979. He left his mother his death benefits and other funds.

Sandra Cleaver died about three years after her daughter. She and family housekeeper, Louise Watson plunged in a rented car over a cliff in Colorado. Both Cleaver and Watson - who friends said was not a Hoffman follower -- bequeathed everything to Terri Hoffman in wills made several months before their deaths. Terri Hoffman also was named beneficiary of insurance policies totaling $300,000.

Robin Otstott, a former curriculum writer for the Dallas Independent School District, thought she had a fatal disease when she shot herself in the head April 22, 1987. Otstott told people that she had contracted viral hepatitis from a banana peel. Medical tests later showed she did not have the disease. Otstott had revised her will within months of her death to include Terri Hoffman.

Richard Donald Hoffman, Hoffman's third husband, who took a fatal overdose of pills in September 1988, leaving all his property to his wife.

soulja

29-07-2008, 05:17 PM

from deeper insights:

LIGHT & COLOR

According to Hilton Hotema’s book Ancient Sun God (Mokelumne Hill, CA: Health Research, 1956), light & fire are associated with Sun worship. "Pyra" is Greek for fire, and "Midos" means measure. Pyramid is a combination of the greek words pyra and midos, which together meant "light-measures". In other words, the pyramid was the eternal ascending flame, the spark returning to its maker. The eternal flame of Prometheus is a recurrent theme within all the modern revolutions (which by the way were all created secretly by the occult hierarchy). The Tower of Babel most likely followed the pattern which the ancient babylonian cylinders say was used by the Babylonians in building their temples. Each level was dedicated to one of the 7 planets, and was built in that color. In other words the Tower of Babel looked like a rainbow. The lowest was to Saturn and was black. The next was to Jupiter and was orange. The next was to Mars and was red. The fourth was the sun and was yellow. The fifth was Venus and was green. The sixth was Mercury and was blue, and the top or seventh level would be white.

A good example of color programming and a New Age group which is involved with Illuminati/govemment mind-control is Church Universal & Triumphant. In the Covert Action Information Bulletin, No. 30, Summer, 1988, Church Universal & Triumphant was exposed as a conduit of CIA funds. Another clue as to how CUT connects in is that Elizabeth Clare Prophet, CUT’s prophetess, speaks in Masonic emples. E.C. Prophet claims she is Marie Antoinette. (One of the first Illuminati programs that this author ran into when working with programmed multiples was Marie Antoinette programming.) Another obvious CIA asset (who is not part of CUT) has been directing implant victims to go to CUT and solve their implant problem by seeking the "I AM force" within them. (The I AM is a system programmed into slaves.) Initiates into CUT have received a letter, "Keeper of the Flame: the need for harmony and love between all the master’s servants united in a common effort cannot be overemphasized. Working and serving together, we form a mandala of light through which the masters of the Great White Brotherhood will awaken humanity." (Quote from a letter by CUT Chairman of the Outreach Committee Michael Veys to CUT’s Fraternity of the Keepers of the Flame, c. 1980.) Elizabeth Claire Prophet’s "Fraternity of Keepers of the Flame" as she calls her initiates learn such things as astrology, crystals, white magic, color magic, Hinduism (reincarnation, karma, meditation, chakra points), how to decree, how to dress (for instance what color to where at what time), and how to become divine at Summit University.

Elizabeth Clare Prophet (that’s the name she wanted) established Summit University, and CUT’s headquarters in Colorado Springs, a house in Santa Barbara, and an underground fortress for the end times in a valley in Montana. Details about Elizabeth Clare Prophet and her organization are hard to come by. If a person gets serious about being part of her organization, they are expected to make a once in a life-time gift of everything they have to the CUT and its head Elizabeth Clare Prophet. (Sources: Notes, Summit University Student and Confidential Interview.) After that they are expected to tithe (one-tenth). Church Universal and Triumphant Tenets, Colorado Springs, CO: 1975, p.12 under Art. XII Law of the Tithe. In return, they are initiated into what I call "the supreme Grand Flattery", "You shall become an enlightened God." One of the programming tricks by the Mind-control programmers is to have some of the alters, incl. front alters believe that they are divine gods. Although members are told they are divine, when people on E.C. Prophet’s staff got revelations from the Ascended Masters that she channels, she threatened to expel them if they talked about their revelations. E.C. Prophet does not want any one else to prophecy in her organization. CUT makes their mind-controlled slaves think that they are too smart and intuitive to ever be deceived. In this way, they use New Age ideas and the person’s pride to blind them to the fact the person is a mind-controlled slave who is fooled much of the time. When students are invited onto staff it is a commitment. They are told, "Your life will never be your own again, but was it ever your own?" They have already been taught "Ascension Keys". Elizabeth Clare Prophet tells her students that to Ascend to Godhead is their birthright, the divine right of every person. (see Pearls of Wisdom, Vol. X, No. 23, June 4, 1967, The Summit Lighthouse, p. 41 -"...has robbed men of the birthright of their Ascension...") This matches what the Illuminati teach their people. See also Pearls of Wisdom, Vol. X, No. 19, (May 7, 1967), The Summit Lighthouse, p. 24 - "The Divine Right is the Immortal Plan...Inherent pattern of unique Christ manifestation..."

In the Ascension Dossier of Serapis Bey initiates are told "The capacity of the externalized self must be given in toto." Also-"You must abandon your past to God." In Lanello’s Message(a channeled message), 4/20/73 the students are told, "You do not have to wait for the carnal mind to evolve, for the carnal mind will never evolve. It must be put off and cast into the Flame." (See Lanello 4/20/73 in the Pearls of Wisdom, Vol. 16, #32, 8/12/1973.)

After emptying themselves of all their past and of what they knew, the initiates are then restructured by CUT. In Serapis, Ascension Class they are told, "The Ascension Flame is the Flame of Mother."

soulja

29-07-2008, 05:24 PM

In return, they are initiated into what I call "the supreme Grand Flattery", "You shall become an enlightened God." One of the programming tricks by the Mind-control programmers is to have some of the alters, incl. front alters believe that they are divine gods.

btw isn't that what's happening on a large scale in the new age movement ?

the whole 'man is god' rethoric/believesystem we're initated into wich is part of the new religion that comes with the new world order.

infact events like 9/11 are also similar to MK as they first traumatize the public to then plant their suggestions.

http://falsestartrock.com/store/images/FALSESTART-TTLG.jpg

soulja

29-07-2008, 05:33 PM

Through the Looking Glass

http://www.onesheetindex.com/pix/5494_1.jpg

Jonas Middleton's new movie, Through the Looking Glass, is a unique psychological thriller dealing with narcissism and vanity. It explores the life of Catharine Burgess, a beautiful and vain woman who is tempted and tormented by supernatural forces.

Catharine is elegant, rich and refined. To her socialite friends, she appears to have everything: an estate by the sea, obedient servants, a secure marriage and a lovely young daughter. She spends her days in beauty salons and her evenings around chandeliered dining room tables.

In her New England town, Catharine is thought of as a Goddess. However, underneath her composed exterior exists another being, a restless and frustrated female approaching middle age. Catharine is living a double life, posing as a happily married woman yet dreaming of a life of sin. No one around her is aware that these dreams are so powerful, her desires so strong. Late at night she finds herself climbing the stairs to her secret attic room at the top of the house.
There, in front of her old ornate looking glass, Catharine dreams for hours, confirming to herself that she's still beautiful and imagining forbidden lovers.

What do you suppose happens to a woman like this? Anything hidden must be revealed; dreams do come true. Therefore, the more Catharine gazes into her mirror, the more real her hidden self becomes and the less real Catharine becomes. The forbidden evil slowly emerges and we (the audience) realize Catharine Burgess has gone to far ... her dreams are coming true: a satanic Demon has evolved. Through the Looking Glass moves from vivid reality to total fantasy as Catharine becomes her forbidden self and is finally and completely consumed by her Demonic lover.
http://www.onesheetindex.com/movie_posters/sexploitation/through_the_looking_glass_5494.html

cheeb

29-07-2008, 05:35 PM

That sign represents planet JUPITER. Its like 21 or 2&4...

It Turns Up Here..

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/24/rclamencolourum8.gif
The Hermetic Rose Cross, obtained from the Hermetic Fellowship, will clearly show to anyone familiar with the common colour attributions of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life how closely related are the disciplines of Kabbalah and Rosicrucianism.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2725/treeoflife2oo0.jpg
The Kabbalistic Tree Of Life...

Rainbow Colours...!!!

soulja

29-07-2008, 05:46 PM

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5995/acdchighvoltagerz7.jpg

No Thanks,,
Bit Too Krankie For Me...

http://www.geocities.com/whkinfo1/ramirez1.jpg

serial killer Richard Ramirez was a big fan of the band, he often wore AC/DC shirts. also he seemed obssessed with one paricular song of them called ''Night Prowler'' wich is the last song of their ''highway to Hell'' album. Ramirez claimed this compelled him to murder (triggered him perhaps?)

he stated another big influence on him was his cousin who was a Special Forces Vietnam War veteran.

some of Ramirez's comments

"I don't believe in the hypocritical, moralistic dogma of this so-called civilized society."[11]

"You don't understand me, you are not expected to, you are not capable of it. I am beyond your experience. I am beyond good and evil."[11]

"I love to kill people. I love to watch them die. I would shoot them in the head and they would wiggle and squirm all over the place, and then just stop. Or I would cut them with a knife and watch their faces turn real white. I love all that blood."

"Serial killers do, on a small scale, what governments do on a large one. They are products of our times and these are bloodthirsty times."

"Killing is killing whether done for duty, profit or fun."

"I gave up love and happiness a long time ago."

"Big deal... Death always went with the territory. [B]I'll see you in Disneyland." (before being sent to death-row)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez

cacadores

29-07-2008, 05:51 PM

Ugh.

Not what I need at tea-time.

amethyst

29-07-2008, 05:58 PM

http://www.policestateplanning.com/new_world_order_mural_in_denver_airport.htm some observations stated here, to give new people some ideas about these murals

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/DenverAirport01.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/DenverAirport05.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/DenverAirport06.jpg

brown.

In the mural, it looks like all the children are worshipping the kabbalistic "tree of life" in rainbow colors.

amethyst

29-07-2008, 06:03 PM

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2007/10/teri-hatcher-queen-of-hearts.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1339/1308795274_4bd713ca3f.jpg?v=0
the Queen of Hearts, and the rabbit 'hole'.

That's actress Teri hatcher as the "Queen of Hearts"

This is Terri Hatcher and George Bush Sr. after a luncheon date:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaK5UAq-OMg&feature=related

3stepsahead

29-07-2008, 06:23 PM

cheeb

29-07-2008, 06:24 PM

Disney Again

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/710/minbritsz1.jpg
Britney Spears And Minne Mouse

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8992/aguilera1999400a0516cy0.jpg
Christina Aguellire Sings For The Mickey Mouse Club,,
Checkerboard

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6486/mmcbr7.jpg
Checker Board Floor,
Masonic Type Alter With 2 Pillars

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5602/checkerboardko6.jpg
Masonic Checkerboard

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6376/christinamicketkz1.jpg
Reinforcement For Christina Aguellera,
Mickey Mouse Doing Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger
And A Red Cloak...

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9623/britneybutterflydk8.jpg
Britney Butterfly...

soulja

29-07-2008, 07:06 PM

its ok to connect some dots but
WTF are you suggesting that a pendant with a heart is proof of mind control?
i mean ok if you got me photos of everyone with (durr) a ruby heart neclace with a golden key on it id follow but,you didnt . heart is probably the worlds most common symbol as is a buterfly. bordering on trolling but at least you provide some links of value.

the thread should change title soon imo

of course a heart pendant is not proof of mindcontrol.
you gotta see things in context. my gf wearing a heart doesn't mean she's MK'd. on the other hand Hollywood and Music Biz stars like ashanti, britney or rihanna or avril wearing a heart means it's just another little detail tied into their MK programing. add to that all the other symbols, phrases and so on we have covered in the thread and you have a whole package of ''heart pendant'' type of things who're all featured/part of Mk programing scripts.
it's not proof on it's own but together with all the other clues it becomes part of the proof.

whether we like it or not the heart (and image of) plays an important part in programing.

same goes for butterflies and the rest, i see people wearing butterfly shirts almost every day on the streets and no i don't think they're Mk'd but when i see a butterfly on Mariah Carey's album cover who also has an alter ego called ''Mimi'' and other covers with rainbows and so on i see it as the MK reference/trigger it is.

Hollywood and the music biz is full of Monarchs, i know most people have a hard time seeing that. and the furthest they can stretch their mind is to ''ok there might be 5 or 6 celebs who are MK'd and that's about it'' but imo that's way off mark. wheeler (who was a programer) said there 10 million monarchs out there. keep in mind that was in 1997 or so.

now how many top range actors are there ? and let's add the top musicians to it aswell.
around 500 ? 1000 ? maybe even 2000 ? so what would the PTB do with their 10 million monarchs ? program them to be waitresses and cooks?

no, they become our culture creators, role models wich are sport stars, actors,artists, musicians, politicians, spiritual guides/gurus/etc..

hunkahunka

29-07-2008, 07:33 PM

so what would the PTB do with their 10 million monarchs ? program them to be waitresses and cooks?

no, they become our culture creators, role models which are sport stars, actors, artists, musicians, politicians, spiritual guides/gurus/etc..

and if they veer of their programmed path.............

http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/leftcoastleaner/archives/pat_tillman.gif

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 07:35 PM

of course a heart pendant is not proof of mindcontrol.
you gotta see things in context. my gf wearing a heart doesn't mean she's MK'd. on the other hand Hollywood and Music Biz stars like ashanti, britney or rihanna or avril wearing a heart means it's just another little detail tied into their MK programing. add to that all the other symbols, phrases and so on we have covered in the thread and you have a whole package of ''heart pendant'' type of things who're all featured/part of Mk programing scripts.
it's not proof on it's own but together with all the other clues it becomes part of the proof.

whether we like it or not the heart (and image of) plays an important part in programing.

same goes for butterflies and the rest, i see people wearing butterfly shirts almost every day on the streets and no i don't think they're Mk'd but when i see a butterfly on Mariah Carey's album cover who also has an alter ego called ''Mimi'' and other covers with rainbows and so on i see it as the MK reference/trigger it is.

Hollywood and the music biz is full of Monarchs, i know most people have a hard time seeing that. and the furthest they can stretch their mind is to ''ok there might be 5 or 6 celebs who are MK'd and that's about it'' but imo that's way off mark. wheeler (who was a programer) said there 10 million monarchs out there. keep in mind that was in 1997 or so.

now how many top range actors are there ? and let's add the top musicians to it aswell.
around 500 ? 1000 ? maybe even 2000 ? so what would the PTB do with their 10 million monarchs ? program them to be waitresses and cooks?

no, they become our culture creators, role models wich are sport stars, actors,artists, musicians, politicians, spiritual guides/gurus/etc..

Hi :)

I absolutely agree, really clear, thank you for this post

"wheeler (who was a programer) said there 10 million monarchs out there. keep in mind that was in 1997 or so."

wheeler is dr Black, wheeler is Cisco's genetic father, can't remember where I read that peice of info, poss in Fritz's writings

brown.

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 07:48 PM

3stepsahead

29-07-2008, 08:14 PM

krakhead

29-07-2008, 08:15 PM

3stepsahead

29-07-2008, 08:25 PM

hunkahunka

29-07-2008, 08:30 PM

angel programming images?

http://www.zingerbug.com/Comments/glitter_graphics/rainbow_angel.gif

http://www.ezthemes.com/previews/r/rainbowangelss.jpg

http://www.boisendokkedal.dk/RainbowAngel.jpg

http://www.healingvisions.net/rainbow_20angel.jpg

http://img185.imagevenue.com/loc401/th_56586_RainbowAngelBL_122_401lo.jpg

soulja

29-07-2008, 09:01 PM

hunka, what's the story behind that football/army dude you've posted ?

his face doesn't ring a bell with me, all it did was reminding me at O.J Simpson who according to springmeier is a multiple.

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/o-j-simpson-at-1.jpg

LYING, THE ART OF DECEIT

The Illuminati have refined the art of deception far beyond what the common man has imagined. The very life & liberty of humanity requires the unmasking of their deceptions. That is what this book is about. Honesty is a necessary ingredient for any society to function successfully. Deception has become a national pastime, starting with our business and political leaders and cascading down to the grass roots. The deceptions of the Illuminati's mind-control may be hidden, but in their wake they are leaving tidal waves of distrust that are destroying America. While the CIA pretend to have our nations best interest at heart, anyone who has seriously studied the consequences of deception on a society will tell you that deception will seriously damage any society until it collapses. Lies seriously damage a community, because trust and honesty are essential to communication and productivity.

Trust in some form is a foundation upon which humans build relationships. When trust is shattered human institutions collapse. If a person distrusts the words of another person, he will have difficulty also trusting that the person will treat him fairly, have his best interests at heart, and refrain from harming him. With such fears, an atmosphere of death is created that will eventually work to destroy or wear down the cooperation that people need. The millions of victims of total mind-control are stripped of all trust, and they quietly spread their fears and distrust on a subconscious level throughout society. One problem about lies is that one lie will call for another and then another. It's hard to keep lies single.

They seem to want to breed more of their kind to protect themselves. Soon the liar becomes a victim of his own lies, trapped in a dishonest web that demands lots of energy to protect his false fronts. This is the sad fate that the intelligence agencies have painted themselves into. They must maintain groups that oversee their double-agents' lies to insure that the lies that they have disseminated don't contradict themselves. Finally, they have put out so much disinformation, they lose track of reality themselves. Far from saving this nation, the intelligence agencies have spread the cancer of deception into all walks of life, so that this cancer is contaminating and killing anything of value in the United States. The soon-to-come death of this nation's sovereignty, as well as the destruction of this nation's morals are the results of this cancer. People who have attended high level Illuminati meetings were instructed in how the Illuminati plan to bring in the NWO AntiChrist reign by making everything appear as if it has happened naturally.

The Illuminati have decided to camouflage their actions with the creation of normalcy to avert any suspicions. An example of something which appears to have happened naturally is the O.J. Simpson case, which was planned based on previous murder scenarios which had been successfully covered up. O.J. Simpson was a CIA mind-controlled slave, and the entire Simpson case was concocted as an elaborate effort to cause racial tensions. The Mishpucka, the CIA, the Mob and the Illuminati have all had their dirty hands involved in the entire affair. The entire affair reeks of manipulation and planning. It is not the goal of this paragraph to go into the case, but just to drop a couple details. Joey Ippolito, Jr. is both CIA & Mob. Ippolito at one time lived in Hallendale, FL, a mob housing subdivision which was protected by a police force run by the mob. He has helped run drugs and wet ops for "the Combination" which interconnects with the Illuminati. O.J. Simpson's friend Cowlings worked for Joey Ippolito, as well as O.J. Simpson.

Simpson distributed cocaine for Joey Ippolito & the Combination. Simpson's lawyer also is tied to the Illuminati, the CIA, and the mob. One of his lawyers on TV said the trial reeked of government corruption. Nicole Simpson lived next door to Carl Colby (former CIA director Bill Colbys son). Colby's wife and kids have been subjected to mind-control. Colby's wife testified in O.J. Simpson's trial, but was addressed as "Miss Boe" rather than by her name. O.J. Simpson's mother worked for a California State Mental Hospital in San Francisco for 30 years. Many State Mental Hospital workers have children who have been programmed. When one of the jurors in Simpson's case, Tracy Hampton, had her mind-control programming go haywire, she began staring for long periods at a blank TV and hearing voices. She had to be dismissed. During the Simpson trial, Judge Ito gave Joe McGinniss the best front-row seat that a journalist could have. Joe McGinniss was the coverup author who wrote a book covering up about the McDonald-Fort Bragg Drug Smuggling Case. The McDonald-Fort Bragg Drug Smuggling Case involved the Illuminati drug smuggling operation within the U.S. military during the Vietnam War. On and on the stink goes.

The manipulation of history by those in power has been well-covered over. An example of how mind-control and its role in manipulation of events has been covered up by the perpetrators is an article written in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in the Sept. 11, 1967, Vol. 201, No. 11 issue. The article, which was submitted to the magazine from three CIA doctors (Mark, Sweet, and Ervin), claims that riots are caused by brain disease. While the article is correct in the subpoint that only a small percentage of underprivileged urban dwellers participate in many of the riots, the article's thesis is obviously a slide to prevent people from catching on that the small number of deviants who create riots might be under mind-control or might have some other motivation beyond simply being brain-diseased. Any deception, whether it is an exaggeration or an understatement of the NWO's capabilities is considered a useful deception for the Illuminati's double-agents to spread. The german battleship the Bismarck was sunk due to a little lie sent to Germany by a double-agent which underestimated the range of British radar. The Germans, thinking they were out of British radar range, made some bad decisions that cost them the battleship.

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 09:02 PM

i know what youre saying but i cant see where youre going with this.
you probably are right that for those in the know a heart pendant or ruby ring means so and so, but that would be sorted with one post or two, you are justbrainstorming here i think and need to make some sort of conclusion? there are litterally millions of connections to items so common so forgive me for wanting a more plain straightforward story.

i did enjoy the aguilera pic at least LOL

This has become another news behind the news
That thread has many cool connections too but i wish more of it was plainer, respect for your efforts nonetheless.

Hi:)
I didn't realise I wasn't allowed to 'brainstorm' - sorry. Conclusions...?
You think I would be here doing this if I HAD conclusions? lololol

I have no problem with the thread being moved or re-named, I attempted to open this originally as a thread and it was moved 'here'..... :D

brown.

PS It just isn't plain, that is the whole point 'Nothing is as it seems'

cheeb

29-07-2008, 09:10 PM

That's actress Teri hatcher as the "Queen of Hearts"

This is Terri Hatcher and George Bush Sr. after a luncheon date:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaK5UAq-OMg&feature=related

Terry Hatcher

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9175/terrihatchermickeysuitead3.jpg
Mickey Mouse Strikes Again

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6493/terrihatchervu4.jpg
Topaz Ring

In March 2006, Hatcher revealed to Vanity Fair that she was allegedly sexually abused from the age of five by Richard Hayes Stone, an uncle by marriage who was later divorced by Hatcher's aunt. Her parents, she said, were unaware of the abuse at the time

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7484/terihatcher165367cbbht5.jpg

Oh my God! Holy make-up! Now that's what I call a scary Halloween party. Off with her head! "Desperate Housewife" Teri Hatcher, her real-life daughter Emerson Rose , had a blast at last night's Dream Halloween event in Los Angeles

Krackhead,
Don't You Think It Just A Bit Odd,
That These Celebrities Were All Abused As Children,
The Same Themes Keep Reappearing,
Eating Disorders, Multiple Personality Disorder,
Drug Abuse Etc.......

This stuff I am Getting Is Not From Conspiracy Sites,
But Celebrity Gossip Magazines....

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 09:20 PM

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/DenverAirport01.jpg

the only connection i can make to your posts are butterflys and the rainbow

i will make my own iterpetation for your enjoyment.

children of the world, united, in harmony with nature when embracing the flower(of life) (tree of life yknow the kabbala thingy according to the colours of the rainbow) or ...embracing mind control according to your thoughs ?

*pats self on shoulder*
:D

i will make my own iterpetation for your enjoyment. children of the world, united, in harmony with nature when embracing the flower(of life) (tree of life yknow the kabbala thingy according to the colours of the rainbow) lovely idea :) wish I saw it all like that, hard too when the research is so consistent, and believe me, I have done some research in to this

Hi

then *self* goes and reads this:D, and maybe checks out some of the other art work in Denver's airport, the 'supposed' alien language, the masonic references.... it is all there, if you want to find it, read and then maybe see how others also see it?

http://www.policestateplanning.com/new_world_order_mural_in_denver_airport.htm

Dr. Horowitz comments:

The Death in the Air bookcover, depicts a Nazi-gas-masked-alien sticking the dove of peace with his sabre. His backdrop projects the horrific images of genocide, particularly affecting Black and Hispanic populations. This and the following related murals were painted by artist Leo Tanguma, October 1995. They adorn the two interconnected halls in Denver airport's main terminal building. The construction was dedicated by Black and White leaders on behalf of separate Masonic (largely secret) segregated societies. This entire building and its contents is dedicated to the "New World Commission."

Why might Black and Hispanic genocide victims predominate? The Nazi alien symbolizes the Nazi-fascist links between contemporary population controllers and the military-petrochemical industrialists accountable for Hitler's rise to power. Elite global industrialists, including the Rockefeller family in America and the Royal Family of England, were primarily responsible for "eugenics", the first "racial hygiene" experiments pioneered in America against Black and mentally retarded people. The development and use of chemical sprays and gases for "pest control" and chemical warfare evolved largely from the twentieth century efforts of the I.G. Farben-Rockefeller petrochemical cartel. The "alien phenomenon", as prescribed in The Report From Iron Mountain to facilitate globalism through the development of an enemy common to all earth's people, is reflected in the face of the masked Nazi villain who obviously sprays the sick and dying masses as he flies by etherically above the suffering.

The New World Order celebration begins. This colourful mural, also displayed in Denver's "New World Airport" terminal, shows the dead Nazi-alien in the foreground surrounded by children only. Internationally parents are gone, symbolic of the contemporary globalist efforts to use psychological warfare to subvert the minds of new generations, and decimate the traditional family institution that resist state control. Front and center is, naturally, the "Deutsche Bursche"- the German boy- who pounds the Nazi-alien's sabre with his hammer - the fascist symbol for communism. Germany's war prone history is solemnly regarded but little understood, as is the British Royal Family's ancestral links to German war lords and conquerors. Also prominent in the foreground are the Chinese and American children and the British and Italian youth holding their respective flags. The Chinese youth dominates in her match-up symbolic of Revelation's prophesied "End Times" dragon coming in from the East to devour the West. The Israeli flag survives too above a cracked tombstone that symbolizes the demise of "War, Violence and Hate".

brown.

hunkahunka

29-07-2008, 09:22 PM

hunka, what's the story behind that football/army dude you've posted ?

his face doesn't ring a bell with me

http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/leftcoastleaner/archives/pat_tillman.gif

That is Pat Tillman, an NFL star player who was earning HUGE money per season, tens of millions , and gave it all up to go overseas to Iraq/Afghanistan to defend his country in 2002. He became the DARLING of the establishment, a propaganda dream come true
for the WAR ADMINISTRATION. By 2004, he was becoming a vocal critic of the war, and was close to returning home and becoming an anti-war icon, when he was 'accidentally' shot dead by American troops.

story:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/military/tillman_new_evidence_indicates_tillman_executed.ht m

cacadores

29-07-2008, 09:27 PM

RE: Mural
Nothing wrong with that.

Except the hats.

soulja

29-07-2008, 09:29 PM

thx for the info hunka, ''accidentally'' i certainly believe that :rolleyes:

good post cheeb,

note how part of her daughters name is Rose.

telling us she's bloodline..

(now before the sceptics jump on me again NO i don't believe everyone named rose is Bloodline but in a terry hatcher context it is)

PS: interesting interpretation Brown :)

cheeb

29-07-2008, 09:34 PM

RE: Mural
Nothing wrong with that.

Except the hats.

You Really Are Missing The Big Picture Aren't You..
In Context The Pictures Are Much More Explicit

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6703/denver6zu8.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/5886/denverairportwhitejewscku2.jpg

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/7866/coffin4bdb4.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/639/denvercapstonetr7.jpg

Now Does That Help A Bit????

soulja

29-07-2008, 10:12 PM

OK, there are supposedly 'triggers' to make people do bad things.
But why put these 'triggers' everywhere? Why put 'triggers', to turn people in prostitutes and assasins etc, all over the place in popular culture?

to turn people into prostitutes, assassins ? no, most MK victims already have sex-alters, assassins are already programed to be assassins (delta alters).
wait are you thinking these symbols program people to become sex slaves and assassins ? have you read any accounts of MK victims describing what they have been put through in order to be programed ?

triggers in popular culture serve as reinforcement tools for programing. sometimes this won't even cause the switching of alters but reinforce programing on a subconscious level. (reinforcement happends through phrases, symbols used/tied into the initial programing process/alters creation)

constant repetition of key programing themes/cues/symbols is very important in MK.

Why are a lot of these supposed 'triggers' popular images e.g. smileys, angels, rainbows, hearts etc.

because they are popular ? and therfor all over the place, therfor ideal to constant reinforce programing..
and anyway, one big reason they are so popular in hollywood and music biz is because of MK.

Why does a Mariah Carey cd need a 'trigger' on it? For who? She sells millions of cd's (unfortunately, the braying fool ), how many people are meant to be 'triggered' by her cd cover and to what purpose?

on one level it's telling the people in the know she's a slave, like masons use symbols, handsigns and so on to tell others in the know they're part of the brotherhood. on another level it triggers other slaves. like certain lines in her songs will aswell..

I really can't see why the techniques you are positing require such mass exposure, if a person has been 'brainwashed' to respond to a rainbow, aren't there pictures of rainbows everywhere? Isn't it possible someone programmed to respond to such a universal image would be 'triggered' when they were not meant to be? Shouldn't a 'trigger' be placed more specifically to carry out a specific purpose?

you're confusing reinforcement of programing / reminders so to speak with triggering a slave to carry out an programmed single action like for example sirhan sirhan before shooting kennedy.

The vast majority of what I've read on this post appears to be guess work. 2+2=5 thinking.

You still don't appear to have 'proof', but you do appear to have lot's of 'faith' in what you think.

well proof also depends on knowledge. someone like you who has done none or only very little reading on MK (don't deny it it's obvious) will not see proof in the same light as people who have researched the subject.

krakhead

29-07-2008, 10:20 PM

well proof also depends on knowledge. someone like you who has done none or only very little reading on MK (don't deny it it's obvious) will not see proof in the same light as people who have researched the subject.

I've done plenty of reading over the 20 odd years I've been reading 'conspiracy' literature, but I also like pulling the legs off spiders.......... (metaphorically of course)

:p

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 10:35 PM

OK, there are supposedly 'triggers' to make people do bad things.

But why put these 'triggers' everywhere? Why put 'triggers', to turn people in prostitutes and assasins etc, all over the place in popular culture?

Why are a lot of these supposed 'triggers' popular images e.g. smileys, angels, rainbows, hearts etc.

Why does a Mariah Carey cd need a 'trigger' on it? For who? She sells millions of cd's (unfortunately, the braying fool ;)), how many people are meant to be 'triggered' by her cd cover and to what purpose?

I really can't see why the techniques you are positing require such mass exposure, if a person has been 'brainwashed' to respond to a rainbow, aren't there pictures of rainbows everywhere? Isn't it possible someone programmed to respond to such a universal image would be 'triggered' when they were not meant to be? Shouldn't a 'trigger' be placed more specifically to carry out a specific purpose?

The vast majority of what I've read on this post appears to be guess work. 2+2=5 thinking.

You still don't appear to have 'proof', but you do appear to have lot's of 'faith' in what you think.

Hiya :)

define 'bad things....?'

the trig's do not turn anyone into a prostitute, assassin, teacher, scientist, homeless or nun, the trig's are reminders to those who have been subjected too MC / horrific abuse and trauma. Reminding them of their specific and sometimes individual trauma / ritual / abuse and then reminding them to then go and 'do as their progging specifies', it can pretty much be anything the progger wants that to be, turn the tv on and not speak to anyone for days, kick off an Eating Disorder, inject their arm full of drugs, terrorise their child, argue with their spouse, jump infront of a train, self harm, act crazy, it is only hindered by lack of imagination, and MC / DID is intelligence and immagination, both are required, 'in abundance' (RHPS / sesame seeds anyone? ;))

smileys, angels, rainbows, hearts etc.

their usage, many have been around for 1,000's of years? Layering requires poisoning as much easily accessed info as possible, what if 30 children are all traumatised at their school, and the room has a rainbow ceiling...? How do you think the vast majority will be allowed to deal with their trauma's, how many will go straight back to their abuse, every single time they see a rainbow? Then make a Rainbow Brite film... toys, use it as a logo, and then, just see if you can make a fair guess(?) at how many classrooms have been used like this, there are several famous ones, how many do we not know about?

In the vast majority of victims, the triggers are just pure and constant, to enable the never ending round of being beaten down with absolute constant reminders that there is no way out, no way any one will believe them, it is devious and clever and the people doing the damge appear over confident and arrogant at the moment, only because the population is now flooded with these images, if you aint contributing (to recovery) then you must be contaminating, be that themselves, their friends or the general population, no way out is the message, everytime they see a trigger. Then add someone famous in to the pot.... watch them struggle with their addictions / mental health problems let them show our youth just what 'rights' they have to use drugs, always be unhappy with their life, dissatisfied, why not? 'so and so' is struggling, why can't I? kind of mentality.
It IS specific krakhead, specifically to ensure those who have been hurt never get the chance to see / recognise or even acknowledge they have been hurt, constantly trig'd in to 'remember to forget' progging.

I am sorry you think I am guessing :(
I have no need to guess, 1,000's hours reasearch, that is www and proper talking to people :)
I do not dispute it for a moment, I just wish numbers were more clear, thousands is 'bad' millions:eek: WTF

brown.

soulja

29-07-2008, 10:38 PM

Miley Cyrus
http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/04/23-End%20of%20Month/miley-cyrus.jpghttp://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/stylewatch/gallery/red_lips/miley_cyrus.jpg
Star of Disney's Hannah Montana

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Hannah_Montana_Logo.PNG

Hannah Montana is an Emmy Award-nominated American television series, which debuted on March 24, 2006 on Disney Channel. The series focuses on a girl who lives a double life as an average teenage school girl named Miley Stewart (played by Miley Cyrus) by day and a famous pop singer named Hannah Montana by night, concealing her real identity from the public, other than her close friends and family.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Montana

http://unofficialdisneyblog.com/files/2008/04/hannah.jpghttp://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hannah_montana_soundtrack.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hannah_montana.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hannah_montanea.jpghttp://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hannah-montana-pinata.png

and incase stewart wasn't enough of a clue that she's bloodline
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hannah-montana-pic-2.jpg

americana

29-07-2008, 10:58 PM

cheeb

29-07-2008, 11:26 PM

I can't get over the prevalence of the "shhhh" silence sign!!!

In any case, have any of you guys seen You Don't Mess With the Zohan?

Adam Sandler stars as an Israeli commando who wears Mariah carey rainbow t-shirts.

Mariah Carey makes a special appearance in the film. She appears completely "flat", no affect.

She keeps saying how she's allergic to bees. I'm sure that this is somehow important!

By the way, her New York apartment, designed by Mario Buatta, is FILLED with butterflies, many that you'd hardly notice (like on doorknobs). I wish I could find it, but there's an Architectural Digest article about the apartment, and it says that SHE notices them.

Buatta(fly)

There Is So Many Of Them With Maria Carey,
#It's Hard To Know Where To Start....

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1109/mariahcareybutterflysql9.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7405/album1128449451bf2.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8720/mariahcareybutterflytouyz2.jpg

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7839/mariacareypiannorg8.jpg

The Perfume Is Interesting Though,
As Smells Are Associated With Lost Memories...

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/2808/mariahcareyperfumevn6.jpg

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/7876/mmariahcarey1edpwlargelv7.jpg
Princess Programme Gone Wild.....

On A Lighter Note Though

Did anyone ever explained celebrities getting married is a serious thing? Word of town is that three months into the wedding Mariah Carey is heading for divorce from Nick Cannon.

Oh dear... just two months into the wedding Mariah Carey ands Nick Cannon are getting ready to divorce, sources report.

Things are really bad between them. The honeymoon period was over before it began. Nick's been surprised at just how demanding his wife is." Sources told NewsOfTheWorld.

Well I Never...!!!

soulja

29-07-2008, 11:27 PM

interesting (not surprising tho :D) what you said about mariah carey's apartment.

regarding bees, i remember menses did a post about bees in relation to MK in the JayZ/Nas thread. something about suicide programing if i remember correctly.

haven't seen Zohan btw but was just looking at some stills and found this one
http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/flickr/41/64/002529114164.jpg

clozaril

29-07-2008, 11:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6727qgmRbY

come on y'all

brown velvet

29-07-2008, 11:45 PM

Miley Cyrus
Star of Disney's Hannah Montana

http://unofficialdisneyblog.com/files/2008/04/hannah.jpg

Hi

reminded me of this.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollhouse_%28TV_series%29

In Dollhouse, Dushku plays a young woman named Echo, a member of a group of people known as "Actives" or "Dolls." The Dolls have had their personalities wiped clean so they can be imprinted with any number of new personas, including memory, muscle memory, skills, and language, for different assignments. They're then hired out for particular jobs, crimes, fantasies, and occasional good deeds. On missions, Actives are monitored internally (and remotely) by Handlers. In between tasks, they are mind-wiped into a child-like state and live in a futuristic dormitory/laboratory, a hidden facility nicknamed "The Dollhouse". The story follows Echo, who begins, in her mind-wiped state, to become self-aware.

Beyond Dushku's character, the show will also revolve around the people who run the mysterious "Dollhouse" and two other "Dolls", Victor and Sierra, who are friendly with Echo. Although the Actives are ostensibly volunteers, the operation is highly illegal and under constant threat from Paul Smith, a determined federal agent who has heard a rumor about the dolls on one end and an insane rogue Active on the other.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2023/2146033463_6fe87223eb.jpg?v=0

brown.

soulja

30-07-2008, 12:07 AM

damn :eek:

can it get any more obvious than that Dollhouse series ?! (as in MK reference)

amazing find brown..

also their logo http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Dollhouse_logo.png

two faces of the same person telling us straight up about multiple personalities/MK
and it's all in blue. wich brings me to color programing. blue seems very prominent in those Mk flicks, i mean watch Butterfly Effect you'll see a lot of blue being used. same goes for eyes wide shut.

also this flick with Lindsay Lohan overuses blue (not talking bout the cover btw)

http://www.best-horror-movies.com/image-files/i-know-who-killed-me-horror-movie-poster.jpg
http://flmsdown.net/uploads/posts/thumbs/1194446483_i_know_who_killed_me_2007dvdripeng.jpg

Plot

The quiet suburb of New Salem is being terrorized by a brutal serial killer who abducts and tortures young women, holding them captive for weeks before murdering them. Aubrey Fleming (Lindsay Lohan), a talented pianist and aspiring writer, appears to be his latest victim when she disappears without a trace during a night out with her friends. As the days tick by, the special FBI Task Force convened to track the killer begins to lose hope of finding her before it’s too late.

Then, late one night, a driver discovers a young woman by the side of a deserted road, disheveled and critically injured. The girl is rushed to the hospital, where Aubrey’s distraught parents, Susan (Julia Ormond) and Daniel (Neal McDonough), wait by her side as she slips in and out of consciousness. When she is finally able to speak, she shocks everyone by claiming to be a down-on-her luck stripper named Dakota Moss who has never heard of Aubrey Fleming. Convinced Aubrey is suffering from post traumatic stress disorder, her doctors, parents and law enforcement officials can only wait for rest and therapy to restore her memory. But after returning to her parents’ suburban home, she continues to insist that she is not who they think she is, despite bearing bizarre wounds identical to those of the serial killer’s previous victims.

The FBI agents are further mystified when they search Aubrey’s computer and discover a short story about a girl with an alter ego named Dakota. When Dakota begins to suspect she may be Aubrey’s identical twin sister, Susan shows her a video of her pregnancy ultrasound clearly revealing there was only one fetus in her womb. Confused and terrified, Dakota starts seeing visions of a menacing figure slowly butchering his captive. Convinced that time is running out both for Aubrey and herself, Dakota confronts Daniel with a shocking truth that leads them on a frantic hunt for the killer.

Aubrey and Dakota are twins, born to Virginia Sue Moss, a crack addict. Moss gave birth to them the same time the Flemings have their own child, who dies in the incubator. Daniel Fleming quietly raises one as his own daughter, paying Virginia over the years by mail. Dakota finds the envelopes and attempts to find her parents, when she suffers sympathetic resonance from her twin's wounds, and is found by the highway. It turns out that the two are stigmatic twins, with a strange mental connection that lets them share pain, communicate, and even share experiences, which explains some of Aubrey's stories.

After investigating the grave of Aubrey's recently murdered friend, Jennifer Toland, Dakota finds a blue ribbon from a piano competition, with a message from Jennifer's (and Aubrey's) piano teacher. Dakota realizes that the teacher murdered Jennifer and abducted Aubrey after they expressed intentions to quit, taking off their fingers, arm, and a leg in a twisted retribution. Dakota and Daniel confront the killer. Daniel dies in the process, but Dakota finds Aubrey where the killer buried her alive and frees her. The movie ends with the two lying together on the ground, looking out into the night.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Know_Who_Killed_Me

the killer turns out to be her piano teacher who always wears a blue topaz ring..

soulja

30-07-2008, 12:26 AM

Welcome to the Dollhouse
http://www.celebridiot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/danity_kane_dollhouse.jpg
albumcover of the band Danity Kane..

Danity Kane is an American girl group signed to Bad Boy Records, first established in 2005. Formed on the third installment of MTV's Making the Band reality television series, the quintet is comprised of singers and songwriters Shannon Bex, Aundrea Fimbres, Aubrey O'Day, Dawn Richard, and Wanita "D. Woods" Woodgette.

then there is Dolly Parton
http://www.songlyricscollection.com/lyrics/d/dolly-parton/rainbow/rainbow.jpg
with her Rainbow album..

clozaril

30-07-2008, 12:29 AM

i am a cheeky boy
you are a cheeky girl

you are acheeky boy
i am acheeky girl

cheeb

30-07-2008, 01:07 AM

i am a cheeky boy
you are a cheeky girl

you are acheeky boy
i am acheeky girl

Piss Off Troll

This Is A Bit Of A Speculative Post....

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M.K.Triggers..:

N. SONGS & NURSERY RHYMES

Songs & Nursery Rhymes Used As Triggers (note all of these songs have been used on other slaves too.) Songs with Monarch programming meaning & access parts soliciting behavior or thinking include:

NURSERY RHYMES

Brahm’s Lullaby

Hickory, Dickory Dock (flips the system)

“Hickory, Dickory Dock, The Mouse Ran up the Clock [computer], the clock struck one [time for system rotation], The Mouse ran down, Hickory Dickory Dock.” “INTO THE MOUTH [vortex] RUNS THE MOUSE, AND FLIPS THE HOUSE [turns the system over).

Froggy Went a Courtin’ He did Ride

Hickory, Dickory Dock

I had a little pony

I’m in Love With a Big Blue Frog

Jack and Jill

Mary Had a Little Lamb (call to ritual connotation)

Tones of “Mary had a little Iamb” or other telephone created tones, such as high pitched noises to call people to meetings.

Mary Mary Quite Contrary (reminds the slave that abusers are all-seeing)

Old King Cole (Old King Cole was a merry old soul, ... he’d call for his masters 3 [the 3 programmers])

Peter, Peter Pumpkin Eater

Puss in Boots (this story is porn programming)

Ring Around the Rosy

Ten Little Monkeys Jumping on the Bed

Three Blind Mice (omega programming connotation with hour glass)

Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star (Sometimes associated with “I’m dead.”)

SONGS (Most of the Beatles’ songs were used for programming. Charles Manson was programmed with Beatles’ music. The programmers know ahead of time what are going to be the next hits, and they regularly call in slaves and hypnotically make the lyrics to be cues for the slaves before the music comes out. For instance, the lyrics of “Ain’t that a Shame” will make certain alters angry. For another slave the lyrics “Everything is relative, in its own way” reminds the person of the cult family & obedience.) --

Angie (popular song for programming)
A Mighty Fortress is Our God
Back in Black Blue Velvet
Butterfly
The Candyman Can (Candyman represents drug use for Monarchs, plus other things.)
CHRISTMAS CAROLS (Christmas carols were used a lot on Monarchs.)
Country Roads song with the programmed meaning take me [the slave] “home” to a meeting site.
Crazy (to reaffirm loyalty to the master)
Deja Vu
Die Walkure
Fire and Rain
Frere Jacques (Catholic “Father John”, sexual abuse connotation)
Get Me A Ticket on a Fast Train (substitute “master” for “baby” in song)
Grandma’s Feather Bed
Ghost Riders
Green Green Grass of Home (go home program, slave is not happy 'til they go home to green fields
Greensleves
Hallelujah chorus (many Christian songs like this one are played while the victim is tortured.)
Handel’s Messiah
Have Thine Own Way Lord (“thou art the potter, I am the clay, mold me & make me...” III. Charismatic slave programming.)
Heartache Tonight (song used to announce a ritual over the radio)
Hotel California (sexual/ritual connotation, the song says, “go to the chamber of the Master’s Feast, We are programmed to receive.” This song also tells the story of how LaVey started the Church of Satan in 1966.)
I Surrender All
Imagine (John Lennon presents the New Age script for people to be “nowhere people.”)
John Brown’s Body
Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds
Little Red Riding Hood (song played with hunts of slaves)
Mary was an only child (from Art Garfunkel’s Angel Claire album)
Moon River
Over the Rainbow (obvious Wizard of Oz programming)
“Playing with the Queen of Hearts, knowing that it really smarts, the Joker is the only fool who’ll do anything with you” (reinforces the warning not to play (tamper) with the programming. The Queen of Hearts is the emergency Mayday signal to a handler. To play with this will really smart-hurt.
National Anthem
No More Mr. Nice Guy
Revolution 9
Rivers of Dreams (by Billy Joel. words are about “walking in the dark, going through a river.. .turn on the light on your internal world.”
Satin Sheets
She’s Leaving Home
Sins of the Fathers
Southern Nights (loyalty to the programs -- the leaves and trees)
Stairway to Heaven
Teddy Bear (Programmer, helpless teddy bear slave connotation)
Tennessee Waltz (handler is “forced” to prostitute slave)
The Blood Will Never Lose Its Power
Tom Dooley (suicide, “hang down your head Tom Dooley, hang down your and...)
Victim of Love
“When you wish upon a star” song used for programming.
White Rabbit (Alice In Wonderland Theme -- made into a triggering Karaoke CD.)
Wooden Heart
Yellow Submarine (drug connotation)

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5610/ringorh9.jpg

The Ring In HELP

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8229/ringohatyw1.jpg

Ringo Under MK Ultra Mind Control

An eastern cult (complete parody of the Thuggee cult) is about to sacrifice a woman to the goddess Kaili. Just as she is about to be killed, however, they notice that she is not wearing the sacrificial ring. It's revealed that Ringo Starr, drummer of the Beatles, has it, sent to him by the victim and her sister, who is also the high priestess of the cult (both of whom are fans of the Beatles), and it's stuck on his finger. Determined to retrieve the ring and sacrifice the woman, the great Swami Clang (McKern), the high priestess Ahme (Bron) and several cult members including Bhuta (Bluthal) leave for London. After several failed attempts to steal the ring without Ringo noticing, they confront him in an Indian restaurant. Ringo learns that if he doesn't return the ring soon, he will become the next sacrifice.

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9.—The Entrustment with the Secrets.

Next follows the Candidate's entrustment with the "secrets" of the Degree. This, however, is preceded by an explanation to him of certain dangers which, unknown to himself, he is told he has already passed, and he is shewn the sword and the cabletow. These, of course, are but visible symbols of certain subjective spiritual perils incident to rashly embarking upon the path of spiritual experience and to the moral suicide involved in receding from that path when one's eyes have been opened to it. To the novice these perils are imperceptible, and will not become apparent until after considerable experience; meanwhile he should accept the warning as a wise counsel from those more advanced than himself.

As to the sword that is shewn him, let him reflect upon the frequent Scriptural references to the two-edged "sword of the Spirit," to its penetrating power and the way in which it is said to guard access to the central "Tree of Life." This will help him to understand the use of the sword in the Ceremony, and why, on his first entrance to the Lodge, he is made to feel its sharp point.

To the cabletow attaches very considerable significance; indeed, so important is this item of equipment that it appears in one guise (or disguise) or another in each of the three Degrees, as also in the Royal Arch. It is not expedient that its deeper meanings should be spoken about promiscuously even among Masons; like many other things in the Craft, those meanings will either disclose themselves to advancing experience or be imparted privately by a teacher to approved pupils. It may be said, however, that biblically, the cabletow is referred to in the familiar phrase "or ever the Silver Cord is loosed" (Ecc. XII., 6) and whoever understands that phrase will perceive why the "cord" is used in each of our Ceremonies.

The "secrets" (or arcane truths) imparted in this Degree are explained as consisting of certain peculiar marks or signs, intended to distinguish all Brethren of the elementary grade of Apprentice. Outwardly, in this and in subsequent Degrees also, they are expressed by step, sign, and word. These, of course, are not the full or real secrets, but only figurative emblems of them. It is what they signify that constitutes the secrets, and that significance is left for the Candidate to meditate upon and reduce into daily personal practice. Only so will he really learn them and come to understand why they are called "secrets" and why we insist upon their use. They can never be orally communicated, except in symbolic form, but must be learned by experimental practice. Just as a prosperous business man can never convey the "secret" of his success to someone who has not himself practised it, so the secrets of Masonic progress are learned only by those who actually live them. They are clues to spiritual progress rather than confidential communications of secret information.

In being given the formal symbolic secrets the Candidate should reflect that he is receiving a first lesson in a long course of instruction of a private and occult nature; i.e., one not taught outside the Lodge, but hidden from public knowledge and intended to help him upon the path of his personal inner life. For having but just entered upon that path, it is proper that he should now be instructed how to tread it. He has a long journey to take to reach the goal the Craft opens to him, a goal not yet visible. Hence he should absorb instruction slowly, proceed warily, understandingly, and withal humbly. He has been given a first far-off glimpse of the Light he seeks, but that Light would only confound and blind him were it revealed to him in its fullness, suddenly and abruptly. In his quest of it he should apply to himself the well-worn words of Newman's hymn, "I do not ask to see the distant scene; one step enough for me." And it is one step, and only one step at a time, that the Craft permits and teaches in each of our Degrees. Let him see that he carries into daily life all that that one step signifies, for until he has taken it in actual living he will be incapable of taking the subsequent ones. And to the Apprentice Mason seven years are allocated to taking it, though (as the Lecture states) less will suffice if he be found worthy of preferment.

Why so long a period as seven years? The answer lies in the fact that the First Degree of spiritual and Masonic life is one of purification of body and mind in preparation for the attainment of Light in all its fullness. The unpurified natural man can never reach that Light; his own inherent, impurities and darkness will always clog his mind and keep him self-hoodwinked from it. Therefore, purification is necessary and the elimination of everything in him that clouds his vision and coarsens his nature. This takes time. We know our bodies undergo change every seven years. Physiologists declare that during that period every cell and tissue of us undergoes renewal. The man who understands himself and resolutely sets about at the work of regeneration can, therefore, rely on Nature's assistance in enabling him within seven years gradually to work off his own impurities and replace them with new material, thus building a cleaner, purer body for himself, one better fitted for being suffused by the Light resident at his own centre. This "septenary law" — one of the key-secrets for interpreting life — was well known to the Initiates of old and it is for this reason that seven years are allotted to the work of the First Degree.

There is much to be learned about the "word" of the Degree and the posture in which it is imparted, but this again must be left to private oral tuition. The directions about the Candidate being "expected to stand perfectly erect," and the references to "right (i.e., straight) lines and angles" and "well-squared actions" comprise a wealth of allusion to secret truths into which the average Brother never thinks it worth while to inquire. To the experienced, however, such matters as bodily posture and the "well-squaring" of one's personal actions (even in such minute matters as writing legibly and with every letter well-formed) have both a physiological and a character value of great importance in relation to the effort to attain spiritual perfection. Nature has had a purpose in slowly raising man's animal body from a horizontal to an erect posture and in transforming his animal instincts and passions into moral rectitude, and she has still further purposes to disclose as resulting from physiological erectness. "Unto the upright ariseth light in the darkness," says the Psalmist; and to Initiates this is literally true. It is a part of their training and discipline to adopt a physically erect posture of the spinal column when engaged in their devotions and meditations, that pillar-like posture being known to be conducive to the attainment of spiritual consciousness or "light." Hence all prayers in the Lodge are said with the Brethren upstanding, for which reason the Masonic Candidate is instructed to "stand perfectly erect" at the moment when the light of the "word" is communicated to him. In former times, for well understood psycho-physiological reasons, a deformed or diseased person was never accepted as a fit and proper Candidate for Initiation.

As to the "Word" given to the Candidate, a brief hint may be given here. It is said to denote Strength; a better rendering would be Power, Energy, Ardour, all of which are implied by it. It refers to the energy and ardour with which the Candidate should pursue his work of self-perfecting now that he has once begun it; and the word is given him because keeness and energy will prove one of the key-secrets of his successful progress. All creative work depends upon two interacting active and passive forces, energy and resistance, labour and rest. (In the Creation God first laboured and then rested). The Ceremony reminds us that these two forces were represented at the forefront of Solomon's symbolic temple by two "pillars," i.e., foundation principles. And it is these two principles — activity and contemplation — that the Candidate must learn to apply to himself in rebuilding his own personal temple.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1262/initiationjd2.jpg

Just Thinking Aloud On This One..!!!

:)

cheeb

30-07-2008, 01:51 AM

Pia Zandora..

Pia Zadora (born Pia Alfreda Schipani, May 4, 1954) is an American actress and singer. After years of work as a child actress on Broadway, in regional theater and in the film Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, she came to national attention when, following her starring role in the critically lambasted Butterfly,

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6205/piazandorabutterflyqh5.jpg

Few performers have been more publicly ridiculed than Pia Zadora, due primarily to the perception that her career was solely the result of her marriage to billionaire Meshulam Riklis, whom she met when she was 17 and he was 49, but also to her arguably poor choice in film vehicles

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2705/santaclaus789yn7.jpg
[I]It Should Be Obvious,
What Is Happening To These Child Starlets,
In Hollywood By Now..!!!

Zadora co-starred with Stacy Keach and Orson Welles in the 1982 film Butterfly, with a steamy plotline revolving around father-daughter incest,

amethyst

30-07-2008, 02:07 AM

Terry Hatcher

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9175/terrihatchermickeysuitead3.jpg
Mickey Mouse Strikes Again

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6493/terrihatchervu4.jpg
Topaz Ring

In March 2006, Hatcher revealed to Vanity Fair that she was allegedly sexually abused from the age of five by Richard Hayes Stone, an uncle by marriage who was later divorced by Hatcher's aunt. Her parents, she said, were unaware of the abuse at the time

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7484/terihatcher165367cbbht5.jpg

Oh my God! Holy make-up! Now that's what I call a scary Halloween party. Off with her head! "Desperate Housewife" Teri Hatcher, her real-life daughter Emerson Rose , had a blast at last night's Dream Halloween event in Los Angeles

Krackhead,
Don't You Think It Just A Bit Odd,
That These Celebrities Were All Abused As Children,
The Same Themes Keep Reappearing,
Eating Disorders, Multiple Personality Disorder,
Drug Abuse Etc.......

This stuff I am Getting Is Not From Conspiracy Sites,
But Celebrity Gossip Magazines....

Superman movie:

I know in the 1990's Terri hatcher played Lois Lane in the Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/8577/001xy7.jpg

Then I saw the Superman Movie on tv last night starring Christopher Reeve and Margot kidder as Lois Lane There was a scene where Lois Lane dies by being buried alive by dirt. This reminded me of one of the buried alive rituals that they do to MK slaves.

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6977/superman23pq1.jpg

Well then I read up on Margot kidder and found out that she too has some hints that she might have been also an MK slave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margot_Kidder

This is what wikipedia said:

Mental disorder

"Kidder has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, which led to a widely publicized manic episode in 1996. Kidder was found by Los Angeles police in a distressed state, with a shaved head, naked and paranoid claiming people were following her. She was placed in psychiatric care."

So the story of Superman seems to play a part in the programming of MK Ultra slaves.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/259/superman31as7.jpg

The red and blue colors are prominent on superman's costume

*(How's that, Cheeb?) ;)

hunkahunka

30-07-2008, 02:08 AM

omg, and its made by FOX. this is getting downright sickening

video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDcEKo4V7fA

DOLLHOUSE focuses on a secret organization that employs "Actives" -- a group of operatives who have their memories and personalities wiped clean so they can be imprinted with new ones, allowing them to take on various missions for hire. DOLLHOUSE airs Mondays (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) this January on FOX.

cheeb

30-07-2008, 02:37 AM

Superman movie:

I know in the 1990's Terri hatcher played Lois Lane in the Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/8577/001xy7.jpg

Then I saw the Superman Movie on tv last night starring Christopher Reeve and Margot kidder as Lois Lane There was a scene where Lois Lane dies by being buried alive by dirt. This reminded me of one of the buried alive rituals that they do to MK slaves.

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6977/superman23pq1.jpg

Well then I read up on Margot kidder and found out that she too has some hints that she might have been also an MK slave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margot_Kidder

This is what wikipedia said:

Mental disorder

"Kidder has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, which led to a widely publicized manic episode in 1996. Kidder was found by Los Angeles police in a distressed state, with a shaved head, naked and paranoid claiming people were following her. She was placed in psychiatric care."

So the story of Superman seems to play a part in the programming of MK Ultra slaves.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/259/superman31as7.jpg

The red and blue colors are prominent on superman's costume

*(How's that, Cheeb?) ;)

Excellent Stuff

I Have Been Looking Into This Guy....

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7717/keachplaybillbq6.jpg

Illuminati Kingpin,
Stacey Keach...

Keach was born with a cleft lip and a partial cleft of the hard palate and underwent numerous operations as a child. He is now the honorary chairman of the Cleft Palate Foundation, and advocates for insurance coverage for such surgeries.

In 1984, Keach was arrested by London police at Heathrow Airport for carrying cocaine. Mr. Keach pled guilty, and served a 9 month sentence at Reading Prison

Got Caught Out Though Didnt He...

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3779/keachuk9.jpg

Hannible Lecktor Was Apparently Based On Keaches Cocaine Rages,,

..!!!!

According To My Source In Port Talbot....

Anthony Hopkins Birthplace.....

:eek:

brown velvet

30-07-2008, 03:32 AM

hunkahunka

30-07-2008, 03:58 AM

is this in any way the same production people as Dark Angel?
I hated the sliding lids on the underground compartmens near the beginning *shudders*

yes, it is the same company . Twentieth Century Fox owns FOX network,
its exactly the same people , you bet.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLNVyQpgTUI&feature=user

brown velvet

30-07-2008, 03:59 AM

That sign represents planet JUPITER. Its like 21 or 2&4...

Mozart's Symphony No. 41, nicknamed Jupiter.
"Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity", the fourth movement in Gustav Holst's The Planets suite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_%28mythology%29

Jupiter
In Roman mythology, Jupiter held the same role as Zeus in the Greek pantheon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeus

Zeus

Zeus (IPA: /zjuːs/; in Greek: nominative: Ζεύς Zeús, genitive: Διός Diós) in Greek mythology is the king of the gods, the ruler of Mount Olympus and the god of the sky and thunder. His symbols are the thunderbolt, eagle, bull and oak. In addition to his Indo-European inheritance, the classical "cloud-gatherer" also derives certain iconographic traits from the cultures of the ancient Near East, such as the scepter. Zeus is frequently depicted by Greek artists in one of two poses: standing, striding forward, with a thunderbolt leveled in his raised right hand or seated in majesty.

Zeus was the child of Cronus and Rhea, and the youngest of his siblings. In most traditions he was married to Hera, although, at the oracle of Dodona, his consort was Dione: according to the Iliad, he is the father of Aphrodite by Dione. He is known for his erotic escapades, including one pederastic relationship with Ganymede. These resulted in many godly and heroic offspring, including Athena, Apollo and Artemis, Hermes, Persephone (by Demeter), Dionysus, Perseus, Heracles, Helen, Minos, and the Muses (by Mnemosyne); by Hera, he is usually said to have fathered Ares, Hebe and Hephaestus.

Other names/epithets
Ζήνων, Zenon,
Δίας, Dias
Zeus Hospites- as a protector of guests
Zeus Philoxenon- as a protector of foreigners
Olumpios- the Olympian
Astrapios- literally, "the lightninger"
Brontios- the Thunderer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece Greek pederasty, as idealised by the Greeks from archaic times onward, was a relationship and bond between an adolescent boy and an adult man outside of his immediate family, and was constructed initially as an aristocratic moral and educational institution.[citation needed] As such, it was seen by the Greeks as an essential element in their culture from the time of Homer onwards.[2] It is important to note, however, that marriages in Ancient Greece between men and women were also age structured, with men in their 30s commonly taking wives in their early teens.

The term derives from the combination of pais (Greek for 'boy') with erastēs (Greek for 'lover'; cf. eros). In a wider sense it referred to erotic love between adolescents and adult men. The Greeks considered it normal for any man to be drawn to the beauty of a boy—just as much if not more than to that of a woman. What they disagreed upon was whether and how to express that desire.

Pederasty is closely associated with the customs of athletic and artistic nudity in the gymnasia, delayed marriage for gentlemen, symposia and seclusion of women. It is also integral to Greek military training, and at times a factor in the deployment of troops

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcan_%28mythology%29
Vulcan (mythology)

Vulcan was the son of Jupiter and Juno. As the son of the king and queen of gods Vulcan should have been very fine to look at but baby Vulcan was small and ugly with a red, bawling face. Juno was so horrified that she hurled the tiny baby off the top of Mount Olympus, the baby fell down for a day and a night, luckily he fell in the sea but his legs were badly damaged as they struck the water and they never properly developed. Baby Vulcan sunk like a pebble to the cool blue depths where the sea-nymph, Thetis found him and took him to her home, an under water grotto, then she raised him as if he were her own. Vulcan had a happy childhood with dolphins as his playmates and pearls as his toys, then one day, when he was about 12 years old, he found the remains of a fisherman's fire on the beach, the young god stared in amazement at a single coal, still red-hot and glowing. After a world of cool, watery blues and greens, it was more lovely to him than any pearl. Vulcan carefully shut this precious coal in a clam and took it back to his underwater grotto and made a fire with it. On the first day Vulcan stared at this fire for hours on end, never leaving it, he fed the flames with seaweed driftwood coral and stones. On the second day he discovered that when he made the fire hotter with bellows, certain stones sweated iron or silver or gold. On the third day he beat the cooled metal into shapes: bracelets, chains, swords and shields. Vulcan made pearl-handled knives and spoons for his foster mother, he made a silver chariot for himself, and bridles so that seahorses could transport him quickly. He even made slave-girls of gold to wait on him and do his bidding. From that day onwards he and Thetis lived like royalty. One day Thetis left her underwater grotto to attend a dinner party on Mount Olympus. She wore a beautiful necklace of silver and sapphires, which Vulcan had made for her, Juno admired the necklace an asked where she could get one. Thetis became flustered and Juno grew suspicious and at last the queen god discovered the truth the baby she had once rejected had grew into a talented smithy. Juno was furious and demanded that the smith god came home. The smith god refused. However he did send Juno the most beautiful chair. Made of silver and gold, inlaid with mother-of-pearl, it had a seat like a shell and arms like a dolphin. Juno was delighted when she received this gift but as soon as she sat down in it, her weight triggered hidden springs, metal bands sprung forth to hold her fast. The more she shrieked and struggled the more firmly the mechanical throne gripped her, the chair was a cleverly designed trap. For 3 days Juno sat fuming, still trapped in Vulcan's chair, she couldn't sleep, she couldn't stretch, she couldn't eat. It was Jupiter who finally saved the day, he promised that if Vulcan released Juno he would give him a wife, but not just any wife, Venus the god of love and beauty, what man could resist? Vulcan agreed and married Venus he later built a smithy under a huge mountain on the island of Sicily. They say whenever Venus is unfaithful, Vulcan grows angry and beats the red-hot metal with such a force that sparks and smoke rise up from the top of the mountain, to create a Volcanic eruption.

The whole article sounds like progging

Vulcan was the father of Caeculus.
Through his identification with the Hephaestus of Greek mythology, he came to be considered as the manufacturer of art, arms, iron, and armor for gods and heroes, including the thunderbolts of Jupiter. He was the son of Jupiter and Juno, and husband of Maia and Venus. His smithy was believed to be situated underneath Mount Etna in Sicily.

To punish mankind for stealing the secrets of fire, Jupiter ordered the other gods to make a poisoned gift for man. Vulcan's contribution to the beautiful and foolish Pandora was to mould her from clay and to give her form. He also made the thrones for the other gods on Mount Olympus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyonisos
Dionysus or Dionysos
Bacchus

In classical mythology, Dionysus or Dionysos (in Greek, Διόνυσος or Διώνυσος; associated with Roman Liber), is the god of wine, the inspirer of ritual madness and ecstasy, and a major figure of Greek mythology. The geographical origins of his cult were unknown, but almost all myths depicted him as having "foreign" (i.e. non-Greek) origins.

He was also known as Bacchus and the frenzy he induces, bakcheia. He is the patron deity of agriculture and the theatre. He was also known as the Liberator (Eleutherios), freeing one from one's normal self, by madness, ecstasy, or wine. The divine mission of Dionysus was to mingle the music of the aulos and to bring an end to care and worry. Scholars have discussed Dionysus' relationship to the "cult of the souls" and his ability to preside over communication between the living and the dead.

In Greek mythology Dionysus is made to be a son of Zeus and Semele; other versions of the myth contend that he is a son of Zeus and Persephone. He is described as being womanly or "man-womanish".

Bacchus
http://photo.net/photo/pcd0800/boboli-bacchus-fountain-79.3.jpg

http://bp3.blogger.com/_MwnH1kpbPRM/SDOuzydLp7I/AAAAAAAABlM/plEprNdIh_g/s400/fantasia-
bacchus and jacchus

http://www.alexross.com/fjacchus.jpg

This site is worth a look, Fantasia and golf? Anyone know the MM hand signals at all? :/

http://www.mouseplanet.com/articles.php?art=mg060412mg

http://albums.mouseplanet.com/WDWMinigolfFantasiaProcessed/16_hole10.jpg

This hole features one path up (from the right in photo) and two paths down (center and left). The path to the hole is the one in the center. Mount Olympus (from Hole 8) is framed nicely in the background. Photo by Mark Goldhaber.

http://albums.mouseplanet.com/WDWMinigolfFantasiaProcessed/17_bacchus.jpg

Bacchus presides over Hole 10, pouring out the "wine." Photo by Mark Goldhaber.

http://www.filmsite.org/fant3.html

(4) The Storm: When their wine dance and party ends, a bearded Zeus stages a dark thunderstorm, hurling bolts of lightning forged by Vulcan. The bolts are hurled at Bacchus. The wine vat is shattered by a lightning strike, flooding everything with torrents of wine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDF52l_KMnU

brown.

brown velvet

30-07-2008, 04:20 AM

yes, it is the same company . Twentieth Century Fox owns FOX network,
its exactly the same people , you bet.

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLNVyQpgTUI&feature=user

James Cameron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_cameron

Co-produced with Charles H. Eglee, Dark Angel starred Jessica Alba as Max Guevara, a genetically enhanced transgenic super-soldier created by the super-secretive Manticore organization. It also starred Michael Weatherly as Logan Cale, and noted actor John Savage (of The Deer Hunter) as Colonel Donald Michael Lydecker. While a success in its first season, low ratings in the second led to its cancellation. Cameron himself directed the series finale, a two-hour episode wrapping up many of the series' loose ends.

Heart-Shaped Glasses (When the Heart Guides the Hand), a 3-D music video, was directed by Marilyn Manson using a 3-D system developed by James Cameron .

So many films....:(

brown.

emerald

30-07-2008, 10:47 AM

Depp Mad For Wonderland

Johnny Depp is set for a trip to Wonderland, courtesy of director pal Tim Burton.

The actor is to play the Mad Hatter in a new version of Alice in Wonderland, according to new reports.

The movie, which will hit cinema screens in 2010, will be directed by Burton. It will mark the seventh time he and Depp have worked together.

Their past successes have included Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, Sleepy Hollow and Edward Scissorhands.

Australian/Polish actress MIA WASIKOWSKA is set to be Alice...

soulja

30-07-2008, 11:47 AM

Burton started his career at Disney ( i think)

another Alice movie;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/Neco_Z_Alenky.jpg

Alice (Czech: Něco z Alenky) is a 1988 Czech surrealist fantasy horror film[1] by Jan Švankmajer. It retells Lewis Carroll's first 'Alice' book, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, in Svankmajer's unique style. The film combines live action with stop motion animation. Alice is played by Kristýna Kohoutová, and the English dubbed version features the voice of Camilla Power.

While the novel is predominantly light-hearted and whimsical, Alice is bleaker in its exploration of Alice's dream world

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/Alice11-g.jpg
Alice trapped inside a dollhouse after growing too large to escape.

This retelling of the "Alice" story is continually ambiguous about whether or not Alice is in her real world, or when exactly she crosses over to the "Wonderland". Early in the film, Alice appears to be in her bedroom, when a stuffed rabbit display comes to life and breaks out of its cage. Alice follows it up a large, rocky hill and into the drawer of a writing desk. This leads to a cavern where soon after spying the White Rabbit eating sawdust from a bowl with a spoon, she trips and falls through a bucket and seemingly down an elevator. "Wonderland" itself is a strange mix of a household-like areas with very little concern for logical space or size. Its inhabitants tend to be strange mixtures of rubbish and dead animals, such as a bed with bird legs, or a stuffed lizard with glass eyes.

Some characters from the original Alice's Adventures in Wonderland appear in similar, but Svankmajerian, forms. Such as a wind-up toy rabbit for the March Hare, or a sock with glass eyes for the Caterpillar. Similarly, several sequences from the original story, such as Alice's growing and shrinking via the consumption of unusual food and drink, or the scene in which a crying baby changes into a pig, are portrayed in original forms. For example, when Alice shrinks, she is transformed into a doll which looks fairly similar to her regular self.

The movie also contains a number of original sequences not related to the original novel. In one such sequence, Alice is trapped inside a doll-like shell, after being made to walk into a bowl of milk while in her shrunken form, and is locked in a food closet. The Queen's character is also changed somewhat, in that her execution sentences are carried out.

When the movie ends, it is ambiguous whether everything that happened to Alice was indeed real, or if she is still dreaming.

The visuals are often described as grotesque, perverse, or disturbing, but overall not repulsive. Prominent is the stuffed white rabbit, whose chest is constantly leaking so that he has to keep eating sawdust, and various animated skulls and slabs of raw meat products. As mentioned previously, many of the animated characters are made of surprising household objects. There are a number of visual puns. Scissors and knives are also recurring themes.

The film also intermittently features a jarring device in which a close-up of Alice's lips appears to deliver narrative sentences describing speech or thoughts, such as "said the White Rabbit". This occurs frequently throughout the picture. It is considered by some both irritating and indicative of some of Svankmajer's weaker didactic tendencies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_%281988_film%29

soulja

30-07-2008, 11:58 AM

some examples from Alice in Wonderland's fashion gallery

http://www.everythingisnt.com/archives/alice-fashion-gallery.jpg

http://www.style.com/images/vogue/feature/120103/img05.jpg

http://www.style.com/images/vogue/feature/120103/img11.jpg

http://www.everythingisnt.com/archives/00002643.htm

soulja

30-07-2008, 12:09 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Alice_in_Wonderland_%281976_film%29.jpg

Alice in Wonderland (sometimes listed as Alice in Wonderland: A Musical Porno) is a 1976 pornographic musical film, loosely based on Lewis Carroll's book Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. It was directed by Bud Townsend and starred Terri Hall, Bree Anthony, and Kristine DeBell. The theatrical release of the film was on December 10, 1976 in the USA. On May 26-27 it was shown at the Grand Illusion Cinema in Seattle, Washington during Satellites 2000: Screens From Outer Space.

The film initially received a X-rating in 1976 and subsequently, an R-rating a year later with three minutes cut from the film. It was later re-released on VHS with a somewhat grandiose title roll preceding the movie noting that quite a bit of hardcore footage had originally been shot, but "could not be included" at the time. Several reviews opine that the added material actually makes the movie less enjoyable by dragging down its pacing. It has also been re-released on DVD, though whether this release is official, and which source material it was made from, is unclear.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_In_Wonderland_(1976_film)

http://www.xahlee.org/p/alice/i/m/Alice_First-005-s.jpg
“Alice First” is a Japanese porn comics based on the Alice In Wonderland theme. (red shoes, yellow brick road)

more alice porn
http://www.xahlee.org/p/alice/porn.html

and art
http://www.xahlee.org/p/alice/alice_art.html

drael

30-07-2008, 12:17 PM

Alice in wonderlands pretty interesting related to sra etc Of course the author was an opium eater, but theres a certain disturbing something about all the weird characters and events, and of course mirrors, holes, shrinking, dollhouses, babies as pigs etc...

Few songs i listen to today made be think of this stuff...

Prodigy, smack my bitch up. Change my picture, smack my bitch up. (Actually most of their lyrics are pretty odd)

And sweet dreams (artist)

Sweet dreams are made of these,
travelled the world and the seven seas,
everybodys looking for something
Some of them want to abuse u
Some of them want to be abused..

Sweet dreams etc etc...

Well theres prolly better examples but music is pretty interesting i find in relation to the conspiracy and related topics..

Also: Wow, a musical porn. lol. they should make more of those!

cheeb

30-07-2008, 12:23 PM

some examples from Alice in Wonderland's fashion gallery

http://www.everythingisnt.com/archives/alice-fashion-gallery.jpg

http://www.style.com/images/vogue/feature/120103/img05.jpg

Tori Amos
That Picture Reminds me of her
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/5212/tapigay1.gif

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/864/toriamostp5.jpg

And As It Seems Almost Inevitable Now:

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7541/toriamosbutterfliesfh3.jpg

Sleeps with Butterflies

Airplanes
take you away again.
Are you flying
above where we live?
Then I look up
a glare in my eyes--
Are you having regrets about last night?
Iï¿½m not but
I like rivers that
rush in--
so then I dove in.
Is there trouble ahead
for you, the acrobat?
I wonï¿½t push you
unless you have a net.

You say the word
you know I will find you.
Or if you need some time
I donï¿½t mind.
I donï¿½t hold on
to the tail of your kite.
Iï¿½m not like the girls that youï¿½ve known
But I believe Iï¿½m worth coming home to.
Kiss away night--
This girl only sleeps with Butterflies
with Butterflies
so go on and fly then
boy

Balloons
look good from on the ground
I fear with pins and needles around
We may fall then stumble
upon a carousel
It could take us anywhere

Iï¿½m not like the girls that youï¿½ve known
But I believe Iï¿½m worth coming home to
Kiss away night
This girl only sleeps with Butterflies
with Butterflies
with Butterflies
so go on and fly boy

From The Beekeeper..

Bees Being The MK Ultra Trigger For Suicide...

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1600/tamoskm7.jpg

soulja

30-07-2008, 12:28 PM

Details of Ashlee Simpson and Pete Wentz's 'Alice in Wonderland' Wedding

http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/events/PRN-016147.jpg

It's official. Ashlee Simpson and Pete Wentz are now husband-and-wife. The longtime celebrity couple swapped wedding vows Saturday evening, May 17 at the Encino home of the bride's parents, Joe and Tina Simpson.

Much contrary to their persistent denial of an alleged wedding, a spokesperson for the newlyweds confirmed to People later that day, "We're delighted to confirm that Pete Wentz and Ashlee Simpson were married this evening in front of family and close friends." There were reportedly 150 guests attended the Alice in Wonderland-themed wedding which was held at Ashlee's parents' Los Angeles-area home.

Ashlee had her dad Joe Simpson performed the non-denominational ceremony and her singer sister Jessica Simpson served as maid of honor. In hand serving as the ring-bearer was Wentz's English bulldog, Hemingway.

Ashlee wore an ivory lace wedding gown by Monique Lhuillier and diamond-adorned necklace and earrings by William Noble. Wedding planner Mindy Weiss helped Ashlee got her dream nuptials that featured a wedding cake by Sam Godfrey of Perfect Endings with a top hat, tea pot, stop watch and a pot of flowers on top.

Guests, including Jessica's boyfriend Tony Romo, Nicole Richie, Joel Madden, and fellow Fall Out Boy members, were served Rose Veuve Clicquot champagne followed by a sit-down dinner and dancing to a deejay.

Many of the female guests, according to E! News as being informed by a source close to the Simpsons, painted their nails black and that "black or very dark" clothing dominated the fashion of people who attended the bash. The source, moreover, described the entire theme as "goth-like" and "very unwedding like." A gothic cross on the altar reinforced the motif.

Guests reportedly were instructed not to bring cameras of any kind and even told not to bring in cell phones.

http://gossip.elliottback.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ashlee-simpson-wedding-invitation.jpg

brown velvet

30-07-2008, 01:10 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQNPMxJsSo

brown.

soulja

30-07-2008, 02:29 PM

http://www.cinerama.ec/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/mr_brooks_ver2.jpg

Earl Brooks (Kevin Costner) is an upstanding business owner and family man, recently honored as the Portland Chamber of Commerce’s Man of the Year (the movie itself was filmed in Shreveport, Louisiana). In his secret life, Brooks is a serial killer, encouraged by his id, manifested as the gleefully sadistic alter ego Marshall (William Hurt) whom only Brooks can see or hear (conversely no one can hear him talk to Marshall). While he has refrained from killing for the last two years, Brooks feels the urge rising once again and, spurred on by Marshall, murders a couple in their home.

http://www.wdr.de/radio/wdr2/_m/images/upload/rhein_und_weser/mister_brooks_costner_hurt_.jpg

theres another monarch reference in the movie, Brook's daughter suffers from the same illness because it's passed on via genetics.

One of the primary reasons that the Monarch mind-control programming
was named Monarch programming was because of the Monarch butterfly.
The Monarch butterfly learns where it was born (its roots) and it passes this knowledge via genetics on to its offspring (from generation to generation). This was one of the key animals that tipped scientists off, that knowledge can be passed genetically.

The primary important factor for the trauma-based mind-control is the ability to disassociate. It was discovered that this ability is passed genetically from generation to generation. American Indian tribes (who had traumatic ritual dances and who would wait motionless for hours
when hunting), children of Fakirs in India (who would sleep on a bed of nails or walk on hot coals), children of Yogis (those skilled in Yoga, who would have total control over their body in trance), Tibetan buddhists, children of Vodoun, Bizango and other groups have a good ability to
disassociate.

The children of multigenerational abuse are also good at dissociation. The Illuminati families and European occultists went to India, and Tibet to study occultism and eastern philosophy. These Europeans learned yoga, tantric yoga, meditations, and trances and other methods to
disassociate. These skills are passed on to their children via genetics. A test is run when the children are about 18 months old to determine if they can dissociate enough to be selected for programming or not. Mind-controlled slaves are created for different purposes, hierarchy or
non-hierarchy purposes.

and not in relation to the movie but interesting nonetheless;

The Illuminati create mind-controlled slaves who are to function within the Illuminati hierarchy. These slaves will usually have their genealogies hidden, and will be created to have excellent cover lives to insure that they are not detected. They will be given multifunctional programming, and will usually be used to help program other slaves. The abuse will not be as physically visible as it will be on the bodies of slaves who are not born to be part of the Illuminati elite.

Members of Moriah’s (Moriah = the Illuminati) Luciferian elite will have undergone as much trauma as other slaves, however the torture scars and the control are better concealed. These children will often receive lavish experiences as well as talks to convince them that they are part of the elite. (By the way, body scars will show up better under black light, that is the same black light as used in clubs.)

The Illuminati and other organizations have also programmed individuals who are simply expendable. These are sex slaves who are used up and killed very early in life, one-time use saboteurs, breeders, soldiers, drug couriers and so forth. The bodies of these people will often show visible torture scars. The expendable are the children of parents who were blackmailed into turning their children over to the CIA. This is all hidden by the power of the National Security Act. These are children, who have been sold by pedophile fathers, or pornographic parents. The programmers/masters program them with the expectation that they will be "thrown from the freedom train" when they get to age 30. (Freedom Train is the code word for the Monarch trauma-based mind-control. To be thrown from the Freedom Train means to be killed.)

btw ''freedom train'' reminds me at the movie ''legend of narnia''
were the mother puts her children into a train wich brings them to foster parents who live in a big mansion. (strict and with lots of rules)
that's where they discover the magical cupboard wich leads to the land of narnia. (like going through the looking glass)

the train scene is symbolic of the parents who submit their children into the MK project.

brown velvet

30-07-2008, 06:21 PM

regarding bees, i remember menses did a post about bees in relation to MK in the JayZ/Nas thread. something about suicide programing if i remember correctly.

Hi

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/21/MNGI3R4HR71.DTL

A queen bee needs to keep her subjects calm and quiet, and she does so by secreting a scent that prevents worker bees from learning, according to new research.

The study, published this week in the journal Science, found that a component in the queen's pheromone inhibits the sterile worker bees' ability to learn from negative experiences.

By preventing "aversive learning," the queen ensures that her youngest offspring will stay in the hive and not use their stings, even if something unpleasant occurs. The active scent element is very similar to the brain compound dopamine, which is involved in learning and memory in humans as well as insects.

"Aversive learning is when the animal makes an association between a particular odor and a nasty experience," said senior study author Alison Mercer, a neurobiologist at the University of Otago in New Zealand.

The "nasty experience" in the study was a mild electric shock, accompanied by a particular smell.

Honeybees separated from the queen extended their stings when they detected the odor. But young honeybees exposed to the queen's pheromone did not respond to the smell.

The young bees that groom the queen are exposed to very high levels of her pheromone. Older bees, which forage for food outside the hive, are capable of aversive learning -- otherwise they would have little chance for survival.

The scientists do not yet know how bees develop the aptitude for aversive learning as they age. The queen's mind control is specific for aversive learning; bees are still able to learn to recognize tasty foods.

Thought it was interesting :)

brown.

cheeb

30-07-2008, 07:09 PM

and incase stewart wasn't enough of a clue that she's bloodline
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hannah-montana-pic-2.jpg

And The Fleur De Lis Is A Stylised Bee...
MK Ultra Trigger For Suicide..

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2056/fleurdebeestoryvg2.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1354/fleurdelisjc6.jpg

The bee and the hive have long been symbols of industry and regeneration, wisdom and obedience, with a place in Egyptian, Roman and Christian symbolism. The hive is often seen in Masonic illustrations of the 18th and 19th century and both Clovis and Napoleon adopted the bee as their symbol. Although "the bee was among the Egyptians the symbol of an obedient people, because, says Horapollo, 'of all insects, the bee alone had a king.
(Horapollo Got His Genders Mixed Up Though!!!)

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4190/rosycrossbeeac9.jpg
And Connections To The Rosicrucians

hunkahunka

30-07-2008, 09:07 PM

In 1969 Russell Gibb, a radio Disc Jockey in Detroit, announced that Paul McCartney was dead. His proof: evidence strewn throughout the Beatles' songs, movies, and album artwork. Newspaper and television reporters picked up the story and the news quickly spread across America.

check out this convincing site:
http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html

now consider this:

Paul McCartney was born June 18 1942.

In 1969, Paul McCartney would have been..........27.

cheeb

30-07-2008, 09:10 PM

hunkahunka posted a pic of Madonnas ''hard candy'' in rainbow colours.

candy is another trigger/code in MK (also referring to sexual programing)

http://www.pandora.ca/pictures3/682046.jpg

she was a presidental model means she had beta (sexual) programing done to her.
something she has in common with the following examples, all having sexual ''undertones''.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/50-cent-candy-shop-cover-6069.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/madonna_hard-candy-album-cover.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/mk/hard_candy.jpg

http://tf.org/images/covers/I-Want-Candy-download.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/rap/sido_singlecover1.jpg
Albumcover of a german Mcee called Sido, who's famous for wearing a skull mask, note the girl holding candy (rainbow colors btw) in her hand plus the skull kitten on the right.

A Few More...

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2622/ashleesimpsonu19af4.jpg
Ashlee Simpson

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5474/candyie6.png
Madonna As Minnie Mouse..

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/4358/candyoct06hrnl5.jpg
Teenmag From The Phillipinnes

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9381/annabellalwin001tc3.jpg
Annabel Lwin I Want Candy..

emerald

30-07-2008, 10:32 PM

Witherspoon's Son's Batman Obsession

Reese Witherspoon's young son Deacon is reportedly impressed with his mother's boyfriend Jake Gyllenhaal - because his sister Maggie stars in the new Batman movie.

Deacon, four, whose father is Witherspoon's ex-husband Ryan Phillippe, is said to be a massive fan of the comic book hero.

And the youngster is reportedly overwhelmed by Gyllenhaal's family connection to new film The Dark Knight - as Maggie has been showering Deacon with presents from the movie set.

A source tells America's Ok magazine, "He (Deacon) is quite the Batman fan. Deacon has been waiting for The Dark Knight to come out, although Reese was worried that it was too dark for him to watch at his age."

Witherspoon began dating Gyllenhaal in 2007, following her split from Phillippe in 2006. The former couple has two children Ava, eight, and Deacon, four.

brown velvet

31-07-2008, 01:31 AM

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5218/iwantcandydx6.jpg
Another Poster For I Want Candy..

Hiya

Bow wow wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNHcaIJETZo

http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/napoleondynamite/iwantcandy.htm

I know a guy who's tough but sweet
He's so fine, he can't be beat
He's got everything that I desire
Sets the summer sun on fire

I want candy, I want candy

Go to see him when the sun goes down
Ain't no finer boy in town
You're my guy, just what the doctor ordered
So sweet, you make my mouth water

I want candy, I want candy

Candy on the beach, there's nothing better
But I like candy when it's wrapped in a sweater
Some day soon I'll make you mine,
Then I'll have candy all the time

I want candy, I want candy
I want candy, I want candy...

x x x x x x x x

from Dark Angel, 'Out' I think :confused:

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Out005.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Out002.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Out001.jpg http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Out003.jpg

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r475/orangebrownvelvet/Out004.jpg

child prostitution / slavery

brown.

brown velvet

31-07-2008, 01:37 AM

Annabel Lwin I Want Candy..

hiya

soz Cheeb, I didn't see your post till after I sent mine :p

brown.

hunkahunka

31-07-2008, 03:20 AM

And The Fleur De Lis Is A Stylised Bee...
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2056/fleurdebeestoryvg2.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1354/fleurdelisjc6.jpg

Larvae are frequently[B] cannibalized in a honeybee colony, and the rate of cannibalism depends on the age of the larvae (Schmickl and Crailsheim, 2001)

cannibalism by worker honey bees is one mechanism by which colonies control the number of offspring produced.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z72/sirashlondon/invasion_of_the_bee_girls.jpg

soulja

31-07-2008, 11:51 AM

very interesting cheeb that whole fleur=bee post, never thought of that.
i mean i knew the bee was/is a symbol for the merovignian Bloodline but didn't realize the fleur-de-lis is an stylized bee.
infact that whole bee business is intriguing seeing as mindcontrol (thx brown) and cannibalism (thx hunka) plays a role in their ''society''.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/merovingians/images/plantard_small1.jpg
The Plantard Family Crest

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/merovingians/images/plantard2a.jpg

The Plantards have long been associated with the Prieure de Sion wich was the inner core of the Templars before the (public) split.

http://www.rlcresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/prieur10.gif

http://watch.pair.com/thomas.gif

mrguitarbear

31-07-2008, 12:32 PM

Not connected to this , in fact Lwin was actually a virgin while she was in the band. However the reference to ' candy = male sexuality ' is appropriate.

Malcom McClaren , as well as managing Bow Wow Wow and the Sex Pistols , tried to set up a pornographic magazine with naked pictures of underage children for sexually active teens. He also tried to bring down the record industry by promoting home taping. A strange guy , but he very firmly had his own agenda rather than anyone elses.

soulja

31-07-2008, 12:46 PM

this reminds me a bit at Alan Moore

http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/wp-content/images/2007/02/_Alan_Moore.jpg
who's considered a hero and very anti establishment by many due his V for Vendetta comic.

however his latest work is strange (imo) and has MK written all over it.

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n5/n28758.jpg

Lost Girls
by Alan Moore and Melinda Gebbie 336pp,
Top Shelf, £49.95

We'll get to the anal sex, horse masturbation and incest in a minute. But first, some questions: what if ET had landed in Birmingham during Thatcher's reign? What if Dr Jekyll, Mina Harker and Captain Nemo teamed up against Moriarty and Fu Manchu? What if the superheroes of the cold war era really existed, but must now contend with alcoholism, divorce, old age and mental illness? Welcome, if you're a newcomer, to the universe of Alan Moore. In works such as The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Skizz and Watchmen, he has distinguished himself as a literary reinventor, a man for whom the fictions of the past 150 years have the status of ancient mythology, to be retold in whatever audacious new forms the teller wishes.

Despite Moore's appetite for liaisons with the heroes and heroines of the past, he is sometimes foiled by his nemesis: copyright. Many of the juiciest characters are forbidden fruit, fastidiously protected by legal guardians. And so it has proved with Lost Girls, a sumptuous three-volume work of graphic erotica which Moore and his companion Melinda Gebbie laboured for 16 years to produce. The protagonists are reinventions of Lewis Carroll's Alice, Frank L Baum's Dorothy and JM Barrie's Wendy, united in a multi-orgasmic compendium that has been available overseas since 2006, but blocked from sale in the UK until now.

Why? In Barrie's will, the copyright of Peter Pan was gifted to Great Ormond Street Hospital, which meant that all uses of Peter's pal Wendy must be officially approved. Or must they? The true extent and duration of GOSH's copyright has been contested for many years. If Moore had put Wendy into a less provocative story, the hospital would probably have turned a blind eye. In Lost Girls, however, Wendy's first encounter with the Boy Who Wouldn't Grow Up leaves her blissfully anointed with sperm.

On December 31 2007, Peter Pan passed into public domain, freeing Lost Girls to be sold in UK bookstores. This does not mean that the risk of prosecution for copyright infringement was the sole anxiety surrounding Lost Girls. The fact that its heroines are icons of children's literature, shown having sex from the age of 14 onwards, aroused fears that retailers and buyers might be charged with possession of child pornography. Granted, the book (all three and a half kilos of it) couldn't be more arty if it was hand-crafted by William Blake and annotated by John Berger. But there's no escaping the sense that the enchanted childhoods of Wonderland, Neverland and Oz are undermined when Alice the elderly dyke says "Dorothy, dear, perhaps you might tell Wendy and I more about your farmyard fucking while we amuse ourselves?" Whatever the legal technicalities, it would be wise not to underestimate the offence that some people may take.

Ironically, like so many works of literature that provoke indignation, Lost Girls is a deeply moral work, both serious and sincere. Moore and Gebbie, appalled by the forensic soullessness of modern porn, are on a mission to reconcile fine art, philosophical depth, strong characterisation and hardcore thrills. Thomas Mann's The Magic Mountain is just one of many literary classics evoked, as a disparate group of guests gather at the Hotel Himmelgarten on the eve of the first world war. Lifelong lesbian Alice (now Lady Fairchild) strikes up a friendship with Wendy Potter, a repressed bourgeois wife, and Dorothy, a young American yokel. Together they make a day-trip to Paris, attend the riotous premiere of Stravinsky's Le Sacre du Printemps and, flushed with excitement in the aftermath, resolve to confess their most intimate secrets in a ménage à trois.

Monsieur Rougeur, the Himmelgarten's owner, is happy to encourage them; he's an amateur pornographer who has placed, in each room, a copy of his White Book - stories and illustrations purportedly by the cream of Europe's decadents. Lost Girls is liberally supplemented with excerpts from this forgery, allowing Gebbie to demonstrate her flair for impersonating Beardsley, Mucha, Schiele and Franz von Bayros. Gebbie also draws each woman's reminiscences in carefully differentiated styles, framed with mirror-shaped ovals (for Alice), tall window-like apertures (for Wendy) and wide "landscape" oblongs (for Dorothy). Largely executed in coloured pencils, Lost Girls is softer-focus and less startling than Gebbie's earlier work in American underground comics, but it is a major achievement none the less.

In one of the most lushly rendered sequences, "The Twister", 15-year-old Dorothy, convinced she will die as her house is buffeted by a tornado, decides that she can "do what the heck I liked", and frigs herself to a climax that's surreally mingled with the twister's impact. Post-orgasm, Dorothy's world looks forever changed, an Oz of rainbow sexuality, as if she'd been "put down someplace else in some whole other country". Similarly, the "Come Away, Come Away" chapter ends with a wickedly charming vision of Peter, Wendy and her wanking brothers flying high above the rooftops of Edwardian London. Seldom since the advent of mass-market porn has so much aesthetic energy been expended on masturbation.

Moore strives to differentiate the voices of each of his heroines: prairie American for Dorothy, prim English middle-class for Wendy, regal posh for Alice. In truth, the dialogue is shaky, frequently eroded by Moore's poor grasp of American vernacular ("Pity's sake," says Dorothy, "I ain't curtsied or nothin! Whatever must you think o' me?"), his grandiloquence (Le Sacre impresses Alice as "not unlike those opium moments where our memory and our anticipation, all our was and will-be is made gloriously muddled in the luminescent blur of now") and the inherent absurdities of pornspeak ("I'm going to give this prick-hungry American tart the sore quim she's so evidently begging for").

Moore's greatest strength, apart from the prodigious fertility of his imagination, is structure. A work of pornography that is 16 years in the making ought to be plotlessly incoherent, fitfully improvised and full of premature climaxes. Lost Girls is a sophisticated, cunningly conceived narrative that builds with Tantric sureness towards its finale. The sex, genteel and understated in Volume 1, escalates in frenzy as the protagonists' need to confront their suppressed traumas grows, until no porn can be porny enough to mask the sadness of children frightened to grow up. The damage done by paedophilia comes into stark focus when Alice is ready at last to acknowledge the "moral mirror-world" of abuse she fell into, Dorothy confesses the ways in which her father "weren't no wizard", and Wendy relates the sordid fate of her beloved Peter.

In fact, as the shadow of war engulfs the Himmelgarten, Lost Girls reveals itself to be an elegy for lost innocence. Rougeur and his increasingly vulnerable guests demonstrate that they are only too well aware of the difference between pornography and reality. "Fiction and fact: only madmen and magistrates cannot discriminate between them," he says, before disappearing into the night. Lost Girls, despite its sometimes over-explicit philosophising, is ultimately a humane and seductive defence of the inviolable right to dream.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/jan/05/comics

somewhere else i've read in some of the sex scenes are children present, although not participating i still find it rather weird.

emerald

31-07-2008, 12:56 PM

Actor Accused Of Paedophilia + Child Porn

Belgian-born Latino TV star Didier Van Der Hove has been arrested and accused of paedophilia and child pornography.

The Pasion de gavilanes star insists his romance with a 17-year-old Chilean boy is consented, but authorities don't see it that way.

The Chilean government doesn't make a distinction between consent and abuse when it comes to having sexual relations with a minor, according to People en Espanol.

Van der Hove, 41, has been released from jail on bail and states, "Who has the right to judge that a sexual act is wrong if it's done with consent?"

But his relationship with a teenager isn't the only issue troubling the actor - police allegedly found child pornography images on his computer.

mrguitarbear

31-07-2008, 12:59 PM

The Pierre Plantard story is a hoax , Plantard set up a group called the Priory of Sion after WW2 and the documents in the French archives are fabricated.

However I think that this is a smokescreen for a real group called the Priory of Sion , which seems to be linked to the Vatican in some way and as far as I can tell seems to be involved in surpressing elements of the true story of Jesus. They also have a connection to the ( real ) Ark of the Covenant although whether its in their posession I don't know. They also have an interest in bloodlines , especially the British royal bloodline and the Romanov Russian bloodline.

Theres so much disinformation and black propaganda going on in relation to the Priory that I don't know whats true. I suspect the Dan Brown novels are a smokescreen as well ( since they have so many errors that can easily be picked apart ). Take anything you read with a HUGE pinch of salt !

My guess is that the French government helped create the Priory smokescreen to try and obscure the mystery of Rennes Le Chateau ; the Nazis investigated the area during the war and may have found something ( this is probably connected to the massacre at Oradour-Sur-Glane , 10th June 1944 ) so a cover story had to be prepared.

soulja

31-07-2008, 01:13 PM

i agree.. dan brown is certainly putting out disinfo and supporting the Merovignian claim to be descendents of Jesus. utter bollox imo..
i also agree that the ''coming out'' of the prieure was infact a cover up and also served to confuse things. the usual fake evidence and therfor easely debunked method was applied. an attempt to hoax the whole Prieure history.

but,

Plantard is very much bloodline and the prieure can be traced back at least to the times of davinci. also at one time they changed their name to Rose Croix wich is now the Rosicrucian Order. and if you look into brotherhood history a bit you'll notice how different groups have different purposes (things they're into)
while the Prieure was more the Magicians, great thinkers, inventers etc.) the Templars were the military arm. same can now be said about the Rosicrucians who are more into magic, alchemy and all that stuff other than for example the Knights of Malta, who are buisness owners, politicians in short a military order.

soldiers of the agenda so to speak where the others are teachers of the agenda.

soulja

31-07-2008, 01:54 PM

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/ab-normal-beauty-cover-1.jpg
the one eye emphasis style again.

and suprise surprise the story does have MK undertones.

Jiney is a talented student of Arts with a trauma in her childhood (sexual abuse) and lack of communication with her mother, and excellent photographer that is not satisfied with her awarded works. When she witnesses a car crash, she is driven by a morbid wish and takes pictures of the dead victim. She becomes obsessed with death, and her close friend Jas feels that Jiney needs help with her abnormal behavior and attraction. When Jiney supersedes her death wish, she receives a snuff video where a girl is tortured and killed in front of the camera. Jiney shows the tape to Jas, who questions the authenticity of the footage, and they believe it is a prank of their friend Anson. When the girls realize that it is not a joke of Anson, Jiney receives another tape with the message inviting her to take a look. When she sees the tape, she becomes scared with the sinister footage

besides the sexual abuse trauma in her childhood i found it interesting that she becomes obsessed with death after she witnesses the car accident.

is this a symbolic way of telling the viewer (in the know) that she recieved significant programing during that time wich is the cause of her death obsession (program) ?

This level is reserved for people with an I.Q. of at least 130. This level will require taking the slave to a special programming center, where they are taken down to the comatose level of subconscious awareness to place the programming in at the deepest levels of the mind. The victim may be comatose for days or months, and this requires a catheter in the neck, urinary and digestive tracts to keep the body properly functioning. Because the person will be hospitalized for quite a while, a popular cover story is that they had an automobile accident. Remember, in Vol. 2, it was discussed how Roseanne Barr (now an actress with MPD/DID) had as a teenager an "automobile accident" during which she received significant programming. Many of these level 5 slaves are placed as sleepers into organizations of all kinds, where they lead "normal lives." The level 5 triggers activate programs deeply embedded and NESTED into the memory of a person. A team of programmers work on level 5 slaves. They must make sure that the victim has a support system so that they do not self-destruct. They may have psychologists in normal life set up to serve as a support person for the slave. It was interesting to see that AFTER learning from people in the know about how memory is erased and a new identity given, that the show "No Where Man" portrayed this happening to a black man. Whoever wrote the scripts for No Where Man had an excellent understanding of what is going on in mind-control

cheeb

31-07-2008, 02:27 PM

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/ab-normal-beauty-cover-1.jpg
the one eye emphasis style again.

and suprise surprise the story does have MK undertones.

besides the sexual abuse trauma in her childhood i found it interesting that she becomes obsessed with death after she witnesses the car accident.

is this a symbolic way of telling the viewer (in the know) that she recieved significant programing during that time wich is the cause of her death obsession (program) ?

Jim Morrison..

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8145/jimyu3.gif
Like In The Book No One Here Gets Out Alive By Danny Sugarman
In 1947, Morrison, then four years old, purportedly witnessed a car accident in the desert, where a family of Native Americans were injured and possibly killed. He referred to this incident in a spoken word performance on the song "Dawn's Highway" from the album An American Prayer, and again in the songs "Peace Frog" and "Ghost Song."

Indians scattered on dawn's highway bleeding
Ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind

Morrison believed the incident to be the most formative event in his life and made repeated references to it in the imagery in his songs, poems and interviews. Interestingly, his family does not recall this incident happening in the way he told it. According to the Morrison biography No One Here Gets Out Alive, Morrison's family did drive past a car accident on an Indian reservation when he was a child, and he was very upset by it. However, the book The Doors written by the remaining members of The Doors, explains how different Morrison's account of the incident was than the account of his father. This book quotes his father as saying, "We went by several Indians. It did make an impression on him [Morrison]. He always thought about that crying Indian." This is contrasted sharply with Morrison's tale of "Indians scattered all over the highway, bleeding to death." In the same book, his sister is quoted as saying, "He enjoyed telling that story and exaggerating it. He said he saw a dead Indian by the side of the road, and I don't even know if that's true."

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5933/officeofnavalintelligenal7.jpg
This Is Interesting Too
Jim Morrison was born as James Douglas Morrison, on 8th December 1943, in Melbourne, Florida. His father, Admiral George Stephen Morrison was in the navy

Navy/Army Connections

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4463/strangedaysip1.jpg

The Strange Days Album Cover,
Is Odd And Has Only A Tiny Reference To The Doors...

soulja

31-07-2008, 03:01 PM

christ that Naval Intelligence Logo is 'in ya face'

good info on Morrison btw.

now not really a car accident witness event but a ''get rid of her'' car accident. (Diana comes to mind)

http://www.car-accidents.com/2008-collision-pics/lisa-lopes-crash.jpg
pic is from the carwreck of Lisa ''left eye'' Lopez

http://blog-aroundharlem.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/left-eye.jpg
She was a member of the band TLC.

Personal life

Lopes was often vocal about her personal life and difficult past. She readily admitted she had come from an abusive, alcoholic background and suffered with alcohol problems herself. These problems became headline news in 1994, when she set fire to her boyfriend Andre Rison's tennis shoes, which ultimately set fire to the mansion and burned it to the ground. She claimed "I was just trying to barbecue his tennis shoes," as revenge for his infidelity[12], and the fire got out of control.

Rison, a football player for the Atlanta Falcons, was allegedly physically abusive to Lopes and had been charged with assaulting her the previous year. Lopes, who was sentenced to 5 years probation and therapy at a halfway house, never was able to shake that incident from her reputation. Her tumultuous relationship with Rison continued to make headlines, with rumors of an imminent wedding, which were later debunked by People magazine [13].

Adding to Lopes' flamboyant attitude, she had several large tattoos. Most prominent was a large eagle on her left arm which she said represented freedom. Later she added the number "80" around the falcon, which was Rison's NFL number.[14] She also tattooed a moon with a face on her foot in reference to Rison's nickname, Bad Moon. On her right arm was the name Parron, for her late stepbrother, and a tattoo of a heart. Her smallest tattoo was on her left ear and consisted of an arrow pointing to her left over the symbol of an eye, a reference to her nickname

Death

Lopes had already started work on both her second solo album and on songs for the fourth TLC album, 3D, when she was killed in a car accident in La Ceiba, Honduras on April 25, 2002. She was the sole fatality of eight people in the vehicle, a Mitsubishi Pajero that she was driving. The vehicle rolled several times, throwing Lisa out of the window. She died from severe head injuries.[16] Lisa's mother Wanda later tried to sue Mitsubishi Motors, as the Pajero was prone to rollovers, according to a 2001 Consumer Reports review[17]. She was thirty years old when she died.

Her funeral was held at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, Georgia. Over 30,000 fans came from all over the world to bid her farewell. Engraved upon her white casket was her verse from "Waterfalls"[18]: "Dreams are hopeless aspirations, in hopes of coming true, believe in yourself, the rest is up to me and you." Lopes was buried at Hillandale Memorial Gardens, in Lithonia, Georgia[19].

In a statement to MTV, producer Jermaine Dupri remembered Lopes:

"She was determined to be something in life. She was a true Hip-Hop star. She didn't care about no press. She was the star out of the group. She was the one that would curse on TV. She had the tattoos. You could expect the unexpected. When you see Lisa, you could expect something from her. That's the gift she carried."[20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Lopes

soulja

31-07-2008, 03:19 PM

coming back to Alan Moore or V for vendetta to be more accurate.
came across this article i largely agree with. good analysis imo

“V For Vendetta” – 2005. Hugo Weaving, Natalie Portman, Steven Rea, John Hurt, Stephen Fry, Tim Piggott-Smith, Roger Allam.

After a devastating virus wipes out over 100,000 people, with the chaos and mayhem that ensues, the population of England reacts with fear and elects a fascist government regime to restore order. Order comes with a price though – the loss of liberty. A mysterious man named V, (Weaving) decked out in a Guy Fawkes mask and wig, and some amazing abilities with knives, bombs and martial arts, sets about on a mission to single handedly overthrow the Nazi-like regime and spur the population into a revolution. He has the help of an every day working girl named Evie Hammond (Portman) who inadvertently winds up as his partner in crime when he saves her life one night in a dark alley. An embattled but tireless inspector (Rea) is on V’s case, but as events unfold and a long list of people with connections to something called the Larkhill Detention Center begin turning up dead, it soon becomes apparent that there’s more going on than just overthrowing the government. How are the events at Larkhill connected to the virus that killed over 100,000 people, and the fascist government that was spawned as a result?

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V For Vendetta,” based on the graphic novel by Alan Moore, is brought to us courtesy of the Wachowski brothers who have producers credits on this film. Even though they didn’t direct it, “V” still has the look and feel of the original Matrix movie in many ways, from V’s head to toe black get up, trenchcoat and boots, loaded down with weapons and some serious fighting skillzz ;) to the color quality, the hypnotic and engaging way it’s filmed, and even the score that plays throughout. (Take note of the scene when V steps off the elevator in the BTN studio, about to kick some ass…it’s straight out of the first Matrix, even down to the sound effects. Also, the theme of “revolution” calls to mind Matrix Revolutions.)

The story of “V For Vendetta” is multi-layered, which makes it interesting. The most obvious surface layer involves revolting against a fascist government regime and overthrowing the corruption. A second layer involves the theme of “coincidence” and “connection.” Connective coincidences appear throughout the movie, along with references to them by various characters. Everything is connected, as realized by Inspector Finch at the end of the movie in his big moment of realization. The third layer involves mind control symbolism, with its symbols and themes woven throughout the movie. It reminds me of a multiple image hologram. Turn it one way, see one thing. Turn it another, and a different picture emerges. I’m curious as to what Alan Moore, the original author, had/has going on in his life that he was able to come up with these things for his graphic novel. Many people have reported that he’s extremely…unusual with a strange and kooky personality that’s not easy to get along with, so it does make me wonder if he was involved with any mind control projects, and was pulling symbolism from his own experiences.

The mind control symbolism

V is a character who is broken and transformed during his time spent at the Larkhill Detention Center for undesirables, where victims are brutalized and experimented on like meat. Most of the victims die. But V not only lives, a genetic anomaly with unusual blood properties, he also develops unusual mental and physical abilities and lightning fast reflexes, becoming a new person who “could no longer remember who he was or where he was from,” as Doctor Delia Surridge from the Center notes in her journal. All of this brings to mind the government sponsored MK Ultra/mind control black ops projects and satanic ritual abuse where children of certain bloodlines are brutalized and traumatized until they form alternate split off personas and new identities, sent back out into the world with their new programming, used as pawns in somebody else’s agenda. Speaking from experience and personal knowledge, I can also add that many targets of government mind control projects will have extremely high intellectual capabilities and develop unusual…“abilities” such as photographic memory, lightning fast reflexes, psychic powers and so on. So this definitely seems to parallel.

V later engages in a similar torture/reconditioning treatment on Evie, taking her against her will and imprisoning her in a cell – all for her own good, mind you ;) – so that she can learn to overcome her fear. When Evie first emerges from her cell and realizes that V was behind it all, she has an emotional breakdown. But she not only gets over it, becoming the fearless warrior, but she later returns to V to help him, and even falls in love with him. I thought that was a bit twisted in some ways, and reminded me of the “romantic entanglement” between victim and handler mentioned in my “Labyrinth” write up. The abuser becomes the love interest, the hostage gets Stockholm Syndrome, and so on.

V’s new, alternate persona is the “agent provocateur.” It’s all another variation of what we find in “Fight Club.” After years of training and waiting for the right time, he begins his methodical plan of killing everybody who was connected to Larkhill, and setting into motion events that will eventually dismantle the current fascist, corrupt government. His free time is single mindedly devoted to fight training – knives, swords, and martial arts – and putting his plans into action. That is his only admitted purpose for living.

So with that established, let’s review some of the mind control symbolisms I noticed in the movie:

The mask and mirror. We are introduced to V while he puts his mask on in front of his mirror, getting ready to head out. Later on in the movie, V takes his mask off and throws it against the mirror, shattering the glass.

http://in2worlds.net/images/121.jpg

As noted previously in this section, masks and mirrors are major mind control symbolisms. See “Labyrinth” and “Eyes Wide Shut” for two examples in this section. As Gordon Dietrich says in the movie, “You wear a mask for so long you begin to forget who you were beneath it.” Mask symbolism, as used in mind control, refers to the masking of the various split off alternate personas from each other. Mirrors are often used in conjunction with drugs and hypnotic programming to create the illusion of a second alternate persona within the mind of the target. Because the target is drugged up and dazed, they can be convinced to view their reflection as an actual secondary persona.

Phoenix Rising. Just like in “Fight Club,” our main hero V experiences a transformation in personality that’s likened to the phoenix. His old self dies, and a new persona is born, rising from the fire – literally. And just like “Fight Club” this transformation results in a persona hellbent on destroying the society he sees around him. In mind control programming, the phoenix rising symbolism is quite popular as it refers to the rising up of the new, alternate persona taking over the mind of the victim.

“Project Mayhem space monkey army” look. On this note, Evie is also transformed from an every day working girl who lives in fear, to a fearless warrior with a shaved head, doing her part to dismantle society. Very reminiscent of the Project Mayhem space monkey army with their shaved heads in “Fight Club.”

Agent Provocateur programming. As mentioned earlier, V has the agent provocateur attitude as found in Fight Club, stealing, killing, blowing things up, and instigating disobedience, wanting to destroy the corrupt society he sees around him through violence and force, in order to bring about change.

The dominos. There’s a (red and black colored) domino knock down scene forming a large “V” towards the end of the movie, just before V heads out to blow up Parliament and face his inevitable death. Turn the hologram image one way and it represents the connectedness of all things, one of the sub-themes of the movie. Turned another way, with the knowledge that dominoes are used in mind control, and it has another meaning. This comes before the grand finale of the movie, so you could say it’s a “trigger” of sorts. ;)

Suicide/Self Destruct Programming. And like in “Fight Club” and “The Manchurian Candidate” the hero/pawn must die via “self destruct programming” after being used to fulfill the agenda. While the lead characters in the other two movies attempt to kill themselves but don’t succeed, V knowingly goes up against Creedy and his men who all have guns, and sacrifices his own life in order to take out them in the process using only his knives, martial arts, and lightning fast reflexes.

Shadows. A minor one, but V calls his home “The Shadow Gallery.” An interesting choice of words. It’s indeed gallery-like, for its collection of banned art, books, music, trinkets and do-dads, but what does shadow refer to? Shadow also appeared in “Eyes Wide Shut,” with the book entitled “Shadows of the Mirror” on Domino’s desk. In mind control it can be the shadow self or alternate persona.

Other Interesting symbolism

11:00. The time on the clock at the beginning of the movie when Evie is ready to head out the door into the night, where she will eventually cross paths with V, changing the course of her life. 11 is a master number, representing “the initiate,” and is amply fitting for Evie as she is the fearful, naïve initiate at the beginning of the movie, about to have her world turned upside down to the point of eventually becoming a different person.

3:30. (or rather, 33) the time left on the bomb clock when the camera first pans on it. 33 is another master number, important in Freemasonry. Think of the 33rd degree in the Scottish rite of Freemasonry, the highest level one can attain. I’m thinking it could be a marker of sorts slipped in to indicate who was behind the making of this movie.

The “V” symbol. “Coincidentally,” the red V logo is strikingly similar to the Baphomet goat head’s pentagram used in occult practices. All that’s missing are the ears, which form the other two triangles of the pentagram. It’s also reminiscent of the red spray painted V in the 1983-84 TV miniseries “V,” about reptilian aliens that come to earth and the resulting Nazi-like mentality that begins taking over the population who fall in line with them. (See also the image of Frank the (Baphomet/V) Bunny from Donnie Darko.)

The Cross of Lorraine. The flag of the fascist government is a red and black version of the Cross of Lorraine

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The Cross of Lorraine has a long and meaningful history and is considered one of the many “Brotherhood” symbolisms of those who run the planet. It has its origins in France, and Joan of Arc was known to carry a flag with this symbol on it in battle; In “V for Vendetta,” the government is always mindful to point out all the outside enemies and how “England Will Prevail!” so it’s fitting that they would then adopt this symbol to represent their battle mentality of prevailing. However….the way the meaning gets twisted around, with the enemy masquerading as the savior government pretending to be at battle with outside forces parallels the way the Nazis hoodwinked the German population and took the swastika, originally an eastern spiritual symbol with positive meanings, and twisted it all around into something with an evil meaning. This parallel was purposeful in the movie, hence the same red, black and white coloring as the swastika flag.

The roses. Another Brotherhood symbolism, calling to mind the Rosicrucians, or, the “order of the rose cross.”

Red, black and white. Common occult color scheme found in many meaningful movies with hidden agendas and secondary symbolic meanings.

“Ride the Long Black Train.” Song by Richard Hawley that plays on Inspector Finch’s alarm clock radio the morning of November 5th. I jotted down the lyrics and Googled them afterwards to see if they had any significant meaning and reason for why this song in particular was used in the movie. After reading the lyrics it’s all extremely fitting, especially the line “Take me home black train…” After V finally dies from the wounds sustained by Creedy’s men, Evie puts him on the bomb-laden train, places a rose on his chest, and pulls the lever to send the train off into Parliament to blow it up. Also the words “rose,” “shadows” “tolling bells” “the city” “deep of the night” and “clock tower” all appear in the song, tying into various things in the movie, which is interesting, considering the song came out several years before the movie.

personally i think the fact that he dies on a train is a way of telling us after carrying out his mission (programing) he was ''thrown of the freedom train''
Mk speak for getting killed

mrguitarbear

31-07-2008, 03:32 PM

The first reference to candy in a sexual sense comes ( I think ) from the song ' Candy Man Blues ' , a folk song recorded in 1928 by Mississippi John Hurt :

Well all you ladies gather 'round,

The good sweet candy man's in town,

It's the candy man ( candy man).

He's got a stick of candy nine-inch long,
He sells it as fast as a hog can chew corn,
It's the candy man, it's the candy man.

You all heard what Sister Jones has said,
Always takes a candy stick to bed,
It's the candy man, it's the candy man.

Don't stand close to the candy man,
He'll leave a candy stick in your hand,
It's the candy man, it's the candy man.

He sold some candy to Sister Bad,
The very next day, she took all he had,
It's the candy man, it's the candy man.

If you try his candy, good friend of mine,
You sure will want it for a long, long time,
It's the candy man, it's the candy man.

His stick candy don't melt away,
Just gets better so the ladies say,
It's the candy man, it's the candy man.Heres a snatch of Mississippi John playing the song at the Newport Folk Festival :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXNfbnMFoGE

soulja

31-07-2008, 03:39 PM

i just learned that james Dean also died in a car accident.

http://www.car-accidents.com/2007-crash-pics/Small-2007/james-dean-crash.jpg

1955: James Dean killed in car smash
The Hollywood film star James Dean has been killed in a road accident in California, USA.

The 24-year-old actor was behind the wheel of his German-made Porsche sports car when it was involved in a head-on collision with another car 30 miles (48 km) east of Paso Robles this evening.

Mr Dean's mechanic, Rolph Wutherich, who was a passenger in the car, was taken to hospital with serious injuries. The driver of the other car was also injured.

Medics said Mr Dean, who was dead on arrival at hospital, suffered a broken neck and numerous broken bones.

At the time of the accident the road racing enthusiast was on his way to a race meeting at Salinas, California.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/30/newsid_3722000/3722463.stm

head on ? suicide programing ?

from wiki

Death

On September 30, 1955, Dean and his mechanic Rolf Wütherich set off from Competition Motors, where they had prepared his Porsche 550 Spyder that morning for a sports car race at Salinas, California. Dean originally intended to trailer the Porsche to the meeting point at Salinas, behind his new Ford Country Squire station wagon, crewed by Hickman and photographer Stanford Roth, who was planning a photo story of Dean at the races. At the last minute, Dean drove the Spyder, having decided he needed more time to familiarize himself with the car. At 3:30PM, Dean was ticketed in Kern County for doing 65 in a 55 mph zone. The driver of the Ford was ticketed for doing 10 mph over the limit, as the speed limit for all vehicles towing a trailer was 45 mph. Later, having left the Ford far behind, they stopped at Blackwell's Corner in Lost Hills for fuel and met up with fellow racer Lance Reventlow.

Dean was driving west on U.S. Route 466 (later State Route 46) near Cholame, California when a black-and-white 1950 Ford Custom Tudor coupe, driven from the opposite direction by 23-year-old Cal Poly student Donald Turnupseed, attempted to take the fork onto State Route 41 and crossed into Dean's lane without seeing him. The two cars hit almost head on. According to a story in the October 1, 2005 edition of the Los Angeles Times,[10] California Highway Patrol officer Ron Nelson and his partner had been finishing a coffee break in Paso Robles when they were called to the scene of the accident, where they saw a heavily-breathing Dean being placed into an ambulance. Wütherich had been thrown from the car, but survived with a broken jaw and other injuries. Dean was taken to Paso Robles War Memorial Hospital, where he was pronounced dead on arrival at 5:59 p.m. His last known words, uttered right before impact, were said to have been "That guy's gotta stop... He'll see us."[11]

Contrary to reports of Dean's speeding, which persisted decades after his death, Nelson said "the wreckage and the position of Dean's body indicated his speed was more like 55 mph (88 km/h)."[citation needed] Turnupseed received a gashed forehead and bruised nose and was not cited by police for the accident. Rolf Wütherich would die in a road accident in Germany in 1981 after surviving several suicide attempts.

While completing Giant, and to promote Rebel Without a Cause, Dean filmed a short interview with actor Gig Young for an episode of Warner Bros. Presents[12] in which Dean, instead of saying the popular phrase "The life you save may be your own" instead ad-libbed "The lives you might save might be mine ."[sic][13] Dean's sudden death prompted the studio to re-film the section, and the piece was never aired - though in the past several sources have referred to the footage, mistakenly identifying it as a public service announcement. (The segment can, however, be viewed on both the 2001 VHS and 2005 DVD editions of Rebel Without a Cause).

William Bast identifies a potentially bipolar depression in James Dean's erratic behavior and mood swings.[14] In his description of their relationship, Dean emerges as a character very much torn apart between wanting to reach out (to Bast) and needing protection against possible rejections or wanting to hide any supposed weakness. Shortly before his death, Dean also gave away his pet kitten Marcus, saying: "I figured, I might go out some night and just never come home."[15] Bast also repeatedly observed Dean's heavy use of alcohol and drugs during the filming of Rebel Without a Cause

Dean's personal relationships and sexual orientation

Today, Dean is often considered an icon because of his "experimental" take on life, which included his ambivalent sexuality.[20] There have been several accounts of Dean's sexual relationships with both men and women. William Bast was one of Dean's closest friends, a fact acknowledged by Dean's family.[21] Dean's first biographer (1956),[22] Bast was his roommate at UCLA and later in New York, and knew Dean throughout the last five years of his life. Bast has recently published a revealing update of his first book, in which, after years of successfully dodging the question as to whether he and Dean were sexually involved,[23][24] he has finally admitted that they were.[25] In this second book Bast describes the difficult circumstances of their involvement and also deals frankly with some of Dean's other homosexual relationships, notably the actor's friendship with Rogers Brackett, the influential producer of radio dramas who encouraged Dean in his career and provided him with useful professional contacts.[26]

Journalist Joe Hyams suggests that any homosexual acts Dean might have involved himself in appear to have been strictly "for trade," as a means of advancing his career. Val Holley notes that, according to Hollywood biographer Lawrence J. Quirk, gay Hollywood columnist Mike Connolly "would put the make on the most prominent young actors, including Robert Francis, Guy Madison, Anthony Perkins, Nick Adams and James Dean."[27] However, the "trade only" notion is debated by Bast[25] and other Dean biographers.[28] Indeed, aside from Bast's account of his own relationship with Dean, Dean's fellow biker and "Night Watch" member John Gilmore claims he and Dean "experimented" with homosexual acts on one occasion in New York, and it is difficult to see how Dean, then already in his twenties, would have viewed this as a "trade" means of advancing his career.[29] In his Natalie Wood biography, Gavin Lambert, himself homosexual and part of the Hollywood gay circles of the 50s and 60s, describes Dean as being homosexual. Rebel director Nicholas Ray has also gone on record to say that Dean was homosexual.[30] Additionally, William Bast and biographer Paul Alexander conclude that Dean was homosexual.[31][32] George Perry's biography reduces Dean's sexuality to "experimentation".[33] Still, Joe Hyams and Paul Alexander also claim that Dean's relationship with pastor De Weerd had a sexual aspect, too.[32][34] Bast also shows that Dean had knowledge of gay bars and customs.[35] Consequently, Robert Aldrich and Garry Wotherspoon's book Who's Who in Contemporary Gay and Lesbian History: From World War II to the Present Day (2001) includes an entry on James Dean. Dean avoided the draft by registering as a homosexual, then classified by the US government as a mental disorder. When questioned about his orientation, he is reported to have said, "Well, I'm certainly not going through life with one hand tied behind my back."[36]

As for Dean's relationships with women, after Dean signed his contract with Warner Brothers the studio's public relations department began generating stories about Dean's liaisons with a variety of young actresses who were mostly drawn from the clientele of Dean's Hollywood agent, Dick Clayton. Studio press releases also grouped "Dean together with two other actors, Rock Hudson and Tab Hunter, identifying each of the men as an 'eligible bachelor' who has not yet found the time to commit to a single woman: 'They say their film rehearsals are in conflict with their marriage rehearsals.'"[37] Dean's best remembered relationship is that undertaken with a young Italian actress Pier Angeli, whom he met while Angeli was shooting The Silver Chalice on an adjoining Warner lot, and with whom he exchanged items of jewelry as love tokens.[38] Angeli's mother was reported to have disapproved of the relationship because Dean was not Roman Catholic. In his autobiography, East of Eden director Elia Kazan, while dismissing the notion that Dean could possibly have had any success with women, paradoxically alluded to Dean and Angeli's "romance," claiming that he had heard them loudly making love in Dean's dressing room. For a very short time the story of a Dean-Angeli love affair was even promoted by Dean himself, who fed it to various gossip columnists and to his co-star, Julie Harris, who in interviews has reported that Dean told her about being madly in love with Angeli. However, in early October 1954, Angeli unexpectedly announced her engagement to Italian-American singer Vic Damone, to Dean's expressed irritation.[39] Angeli married Damone the following month, and gossip columnists reported that Dean, or someone dressed like him, watched the wedding from across the road on a motorcycle. However, Dean denied that he, personally, would have done anything so "dumb," when his friend William Bast questioned him about the reports later, and Bast, like Paul Alexander, believes the relationship was a mere publicity stunt.[32][40]Pier Angeli only talked once about the relationship in her later life in an interview, giving vivid descriptions of romantic meetings at the beach that read like wishful fantasies,[41] as also William Bast claims them to be.[42]

Actress Liz Sheridan claims that she and Dean had a short affair in New York. In her memoir detailing this, she also states that Dean was having a sexual involvement with Rogers Brackett, and describes her negative response to this situation.[43] However, again William Bast is sceptical whether this was a true love affair and claims Dean and Sheridan didn't spend much time together.[4] Gavin Lambert wrote in his Natalie Wood biography that, contrary to popular notions, Wood's casting in Rebel Without a Cause did not lead to a romance with Dean: "Like many people, she was fascinated by his charm. He had this magnetic quality on the screen and in life... They got on very well, they liked each other a lot," but there was no affair and no sexual relationship.[44]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dean

mrguitarbear

31-07-2008, 03:42 PM

The Archies - ' Sugar Sugar ' :

Sugar,
Oh, Honey Honey.
You are my candy girl,
and you got me wanting you.
Honey,
Oh, Sugar, Sugar.
You are my candy girl
and you got me wanting you...

Baby Bird - ' Candy Girl '

Are you the tornado in my sails
Are you Jesus without the nails
Are you the Bury Met. without the rails
Are you Paris without snails
Of course you're not
But you're all I've got
And that's fine & dandy
When you lick my candy girl
(And I don't mean that rude)
When you lick my
When you lick my candy...

New Edition - ' Candy Girl '

My girls like candy, a candy treat
She knocks me hot up off me feet
She's so fine as can be
I know this girl is meant for me

Candy Girl
You are my world
You look so sweet
You're a special treat...

With so much sexual imagery around the word ' candy ' you can see why its been chosen for MK Ultra programming ( plus the association with children of course ).

mrguitarbear

31-07-2008, 03:51 PM

A car crash does seem a convinient way to orchestrate suicide programming , because it could be seen as an accident , carelessness , drunk driving , falling asleep at the wheel or an actual suicide attempt itself. Theres a lot of ambiguity over what happened.

Marc Bolan also died in a car crash , interestingly he had been working with David Bowie before he died. His girlfriend Gloria Jones had supposedly been driving , but if Marc had been ' suicide programmed ' maybe he grabbed the wheel and crashed the car ?

Whats the chances Henri Paul ( driver of Diana's limo ) had been programmed or hypnotised in some way to crash the limo in the Alma tunnel ? Having seen some of the things that Derren Brown can do with hypnosis it really makes you wonder doesn't it ?

mrguitarbear

31-07-2008, 03:56 PM

Jayne Mansfield also died in a car crash on June 29th 1967:

http://www.halloweensunseen.com/1966_Buick_Electra_-_Jayne_Mansfield.jpg

seaweed

31-07-2008, 04:11 PM

More on Larkhill from Wikipedia:

Larkhill (grid reference SU125445) is a village in Wiltshire, England, on the edge of Salisbury Plain. It is part of the civil parish of Durrington in the district of Salisbury, and is a short distance west of Durrington village proper. It is about ten miles north of Salisbury.
The village has a long association with the British Army, and is the site of Larkhill Camp, currently the site of the Royal School of Artillery. It has also been selected as the site for the United Kingdom's first spaceport, and will be connected to Stonehenge via a LPG bus (My emphasis).[citation needed]
[edit]Fictional appearances

The comic book V for Vendetta (and its movie adaptation) featured a fictional detention center at Larkhill. Alan Moore stated in the notes to V for Vendetta (ISBN 1-84576-182-0), that he chose Larkhill because of the obvious military connections, but also because of a particularly unpleasant hiking trip that he had around the area.
The BBC television crime drama series Waking the Dead also featured a mental hospital called Larkhill in the latest season.

coming back to Alan Moore or V for vendetta to be more accurate.
came across this article i largely agree with. good analysis imo

personally i think the fact that he dies on a train is a way of telling us after carrying out his mission (programing) he was ''thrown of the freedom train''
Mk speak for getting killed

soulja

31-07-2008, 04:45 PM

i'm pretty intrigued atm by this whole celebrity ''accidental'' death thingy.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/57/Jaynemansfield.jpg/200px-Jaynemansfield.jpg
Jayne Mansfield died in a car accident.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayne_Mansfield

Marilyn Monroe
1962 --- drug overdose
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Monroe

what about Jeff Buckley?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/Jeff_Buckley.jpg

Death

On the evening of May 29, 1997, Buckley's band arrived by plane with the intent to join him in his Memphis studio to work on the newly written material. That same evening, Buckley went swimming in Wolf River Harbor,[92] a tributary of the Mississippi River, while wearing boots, all of his clothing, and singing the chorus of the song "Whole Lotta Love" by Led Zeppelin.[93] A roadie of Buckley's band, Keith Foti, remained ashore. After moving the radio and a guitar out of reach of the wake from a passing tugboat, Foti looked up to see that Buckley was gone. Despite a determined rescue effort that night, Buckley remained missing. On June 4, his body was spotted by a tourist on a riverboat and was brought ashore.[93]

The night before his disappearance, Buckley excitedly told his girlfriend Joan Wasser that he believed he had found the cause of his dramatic moods, namely bipolar disorder. The autopsy to clarify the cause of Buckley's death confirmed that Buckley had taken no illegal drugs before his swim, and a drug overdose was ruled out as the cause of death. Soon afterward, a memorial service was held at St. Ann's Church; the same place where Buckley paid tribute to his father five years earlier. His body was cremated and his ashes interred at his estate. He was thirty years old.

In order to clarify the situation of his death, this statement was released from the Buckley estate:

Jeff Buckley's death was not "mysterious," related to drugs, alcohol, or suicide. We have a police report, a medical examiner's report, and an eye witness to prove that it was an accidental drowning, and that Mr. Buckley was in a good frame of mind prior to the accident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Buckley

Butterfly McQueen (January 7, 1911 – December 22, 1995) was an American film and television actress best known for the role of "Prissy" in Gone With the Wind.

Life and career

Born Thelma McQueen in Tampa, Florida, she trained as a dancer and took her stage name from the "Butterfly Dance" after performing it in a production of A Midsummer Night's Dream. She performed with the dance troupes of Katherine Dunham and Janet Collins before making her professional debut in George Abbott's Brown Sugar.

McQueen made her first film in 1939 in what would become her most identifiable role—as Prissy, the young maid in Gone with the Wind, uttering the famous words: "I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies!" She also played an uncredited bit part as a sales assistant in The Women, filmed after Gone with the Wind but released before it. Around this time McQueen also modeled for the Mrs. Butterworth bottle. She also played Butterfly, Mary Livingstone's maid in the Jack Benny radio program, for a time during World War II. But by 1947 she had grown tired of the ethnic stereotypes she was required to play and ended her film career.

By 1950 she had played another racially-stereotyped role for two years on the television series Beulah, which reunited her with her Gone with the Wind co-star Hattie McDaniel.

In a lighter moment, she appeared in a 1969 episode of The Dating Game.

Her acting roles after this were very few, and she devoted herself to other pursuits including study, and received a bachelor's degree in political science in 1975. In 1979 McQueen won a Daytime Emmy award for her performance as Aunt Thelma, a fairy godmother in the ABC After School Special, "Seven Wishes of a Rich Kid". She had one more role of some substance in the 1986 film The Mosquito Coast.

McQueen lived in New York in the summer months and lived in Augusta, Georgia in the winter. She died in Augusta, Georgia, as a result of burns received when a kerosene heater she was attempting to light malfunctioned and burst into flames. A lifelong atheist, she donated her body to medical science and remembered the Freedom From Religion Foundation in her will.

:rolleyes:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/Ehartman.jpg
Mary Elizabeth Hartman (December 23, 1943 – June 10, 1987) was an American actress, best known for her performance in the 1965 film A Patch of Blue, a role for which she won the Golden Globe Award for New Star Of The Year - Actress and was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Actress.

Final years

Throughout much of her life, Hartman suffered from depression.[4] In her later years, her mental health continued to decline and she moved to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to be closer to her family. In 1984, she divorced her husband, screenwriter Gill Dennis, after a five-year separation. In 1987, Hartman fell to her death from a fifth-floor window in Pittsburgh in what was believed to be a suicide.[4] Hartman's body was returned to her hometown and interred at the Boardman Memorial Park, beneath two maple trees
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Hartman

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Karen Anne Carpenter (March 2, 1950 – February 4, 1983) was a highly successful American singer and drummer. She and her brother, Richard, formed the popular 1970s duo Carpenters.

Carpenter was an accomplished drummer, placing first in Playboy's reader poll for Best Rock Drummer of 1975, thus pioneering the way for a plethora of female drummers to follow. However, it is her vocal style for which she is best remembered. Known for impeccable phrasing and perfect pitch, Carpenter suffered from anorexia nervosa, a little known disease at the time, and eventually died from complications related to recovering from the illness at the age of 32, in 1983

Death

On February 4, 1983, approximately a month before her thirty-third birthday, Carpenter experienced heart failure at her parents' home in Downey, California, and was taken to Downey Community Hospital, where she was pronounced dead twenty minutes later. She suffered cardiac arrest at 9:51 AM Pacific Standard Time. The LA coroner gave the cause of death as "heartbeat irregularities brought on by chemical imbalances associated with anorexia nervosa."

The autopsy stated that Carpenter's death was the result of emetine cardiotoxicity due to anorexia nervosa. Under the anatomical summary, the first item was heart failure, with anorexia as second. The third finding was cachexia, which is extremely low weight and weakness and general body decline associated with chronic disease. Emetine cardio toxicity implies that Carpenter abused ipecac syrup, an easily obtained emetic medicine that is only meant to be taken by persons who have accidentally swallowed poison.

Both her late mother and her brother Richard debated this finding. Both have stated that they never found any empty vial of ipecac in her apartment nor was there any evidence that Karen had been vomiting. Richard believes that Karen was not willing to do this because it could damage her vocal cords, relying on laxatives alone to maintain her low body weight.

A documentary in the 1990s quoting medical sources and those in her immediate circle asserted that Karen Carpenter had actually died from "recovering" from anorexia—she was recovering from the disease but her quick weight gain placed enormous pressure on her heart, which had been weakened by years of malnutrition.

Her funeral service took place on February 8, 1983, at the Downey United Methodist Church. Carpenter, dressed in a rose colored suit, lay in an open white casket. Over a thousand mourners passed through to say goodbye, among them her friends Dorothy Hamill, Olivia Newton-John, Petula Clark, Cristina Ferrare and Dionne Warwick. Carpenter's estranged husband Tom attended her funeral, where he took off his wedding ring and threw it into the casket.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Carpenter

Judy Garland
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--- overdose of sleeping pills.

also suprisingly many musicians and actors die violently.

Robert Edward Crane (July 13, 1928 – June 29, 1978) was an American disc jockey and Emmy Award-nominated actor, best known for his performance as Colonel Robert E. Hogan in the television sitcom Hogan's Heroes from 1965 to 1971, and for his violent and unsolved death.

Decline and fall

Following the cancellation of Hogan's Heroes in 1971, Crane continued to act, appearing in two Disney films, Superdad with the title role and Gus in a cameo role, and a number of TV shows, including Police Woman, Quincy, M.E., and The Love Boat. A second series of his own, 1975's The Bob Crane Show, was cancelled by NBC after three months.

During the run of Hogan's Heroes, sitcom costar Richard Dawson introduced Crane to John Carpenter, an electronics expert who sold VCRs. Crane was a photography enthusiast.[1]

Carpenter supplied early versions of video technology, and he'd often participate in group sex with the women that Crane would meet.

On a late night in 1978, Crane allegedly called Carpenter to tell him that their friendship was over. The following day, Crane was discovered violently bludgeoned to death with a weapon that was never found (but was believed to be a camera tripod) at the Winfield Place Apartments in Scottsdale, Arizona. Crane had been appearing in Scottsdale in a production of a play titled Beginner's Luck at the Windmill Dinner Theatre.

According to an episode of A&E's Cold Case Files, police officers who arrived at the scene of the crime noted that Carpenter called the apartment several times and didn't seem surprised that the police were there. This immediately raised suspicion, and the car Carpenter had rented the previous day was impounded by the police. In it several blood smears were found that matched Crane's blood type. At that time DNA testing didn't exist to confirm if it was Crane's or not. Due to a lack of sufficient evidence, the district attorney declined to file charges and the case went cold.

In 1992, fourteen years after the murder, the case was reopened. An attempt to test the blood found in the car Carpenter rented failed to produce any result due to improper preservation of the evidence. The detective in charge instead hoped a picture of what appeared to be a piece of subcutaneous tissue (brain tissue) found in the rental car[2] (which had been lost since the original investigation) would incriminate Carpenter. He was arrested and indicted. During Carpenter's trial in 1994, the prosecution showed a videotape of Crane and Carpenter engaging in sex with the same woman to demonstrate their close relationship. However, Carpenter was acquitted on a lack of convincing evidence. Both the murder and the motive remain officially unsolved. Carpenter maintained his innocence until his death on September 4, 1998.

Albert Dekker (December 20, 1905 – May 5, 1968) was an American character actor and politician best known for his roles in Dr. Cyclops, The Killers and The Wild Bunch. He is sometimes credited as Albert Van Dekker or Albert van Dekker.

Death and Controversy

In May of 1968, Dekker was found strangled to death in his Hollywood home. His naked body was bound hand and foot, a hypodermic needle was jammed into each arm, and obscenities were scrawled all over the corpse. At first, it seemed that Dekker was a closet homosexual who had committed suicide (early reports suggested that the writings on his body were his bad movie reviews) or had died while having rough sex. However, there were also items stolen from his apartment, so it is also possible that he was murdered during the course of a robbery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Dekker

Bobby Fuller (October 22, 1942 – July 18, 1966) was an American rock singer and guitar player best known for his single "I Fought the Law".
Death

Just after "I Fought The Law" became a top ten hit, Bobby Fuller was found dead in his parked automobile near his Los Angeles home. The police considered the death an apparent suicide, however many people still believe Fuller was murdered. The investigation was botched from the start. The crime scene was not secured and no fingerprints were obtained. A witness also claimed seeing a police officer throw a can of gasoline found at the scene into the trash. Fuller was found with multiple wounds all over his body and covered in gasoline leading many to speculate that the perpetrators fled before they could set the car on fire.[5] Police later changed the cause of death to "Accidental asphyxiation" citing no evidence of foul play.[6]Despite the official cause of death stated by authorities, rumors and speculation still surround Fuller's mysterious death.

Sal Mineo - actor
1976 --- stabbed to death in the street outside of his home.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sal_Mineo

Jim Morrison - musician (the Doors)
1971 --- heart attack while in the bathtub.

River Phoenix - actor
1993 --- drug overdose on the sidewalk in front the Viper Club in Hollywood on Halloween

Elvis Presley
1977 --- accidental drug overdose.

Keith Relf - musician (The Yardbirds)
1976 --- electrocuted playing guitar in the bathtub

Rebecca Schaffer - actress
1989 --- shot by a "celebrity stalker" fan.

Selena (Quintanilla Perez) - singer
1995 --- shot by the president of her fan club

Betty Shabazz, (Betty Sanders; Sister Betty X, Hajj Bahiyah) - widow of Malcom X
1997 --- complications from apartment fire started by her grandson.

Tupac Shakur - musician
1996 --- murdered in drive-by shooting.

Sharon Tate
1969 --- murdered by Charles Manson and his followers.

Tommy Tucker - musician
1982 --- carbon tetrachloride poisoning sustained while he was finishing floors in his home.

Gianni Versace - clothing designer
1997 --- murdered by serial killer.

Dennis Wilson - rock musician (The Beach Boys)
1983 --- drowned after diving from his yacht in the harbor at Marina Del Ray, California

i think most of those deaths have something todo with MK or at least with the Brotherhood wanting to get rid of these people (for whatever reasons)

soulja

31-07-2008, 04:51 PM

very interesting seaweed, thx for the addition..

also that BBC series featured a mental hospital called Larkhill.

question is what does Alan Moore really know about all of this ? i mean his works are pretty ''clued up'' on MK.

coincidence ? not likely imo..

soulja

31-07-2008, 04:55 PM

Whats the chances Henri Paul ( driver of Diana's limo ) had been programmed or hypnotised in some way to crash the limo in the Alma tunnel ? Having seen some of the things that Derren Brown can do with hypnosis it really makes you wonder doesn't it ?

yea i'm pretty sure he was programmed, also he hit the 13th pillar !

knowing about the symbolism obsessed illuminati i think that's one heck of a ''coincidence''.. :rolleyes:

soulja

31-07-2008, 06:06 PM

there's a whole porn movie series called ''mind control''

https://secure.fetishvideos.us/catalog/images/m549.jpg

Stacy Burke & Charlie Laine
Stacy and Charlie give amazing performances in this sexy, unusual and outrageous video.

The girls want to market a new relaxation product for Dick Darkly. But, when Dick unveils the product, it hypnotizes the two businesswomen. First it puts them to sleep and then into a trance. All kinds of craziness ensues. The girls are made to think they are chickens and later, sheep. Charlie is compelled to become a cow and Stacy milks her by pulling on her tits. Charlie rides Stacy who thinks she is a horse. Later, Charlie becomes a dog and Stacy leads her around on a leash. Charlie looks cute as she sits up, sticks out her tongue and begs like a puppy. Dick orders the girls to go limp and attaches strings to their arms and legs. In two incredible scenes, the girls are marionettes and Dick controls them like a puppeteer! The girls also become mannequins and take turns posing each other. They become robots and move around the room, controlled by Dick. Then, the girls are commanded to do some role-playing. Charlie is a blow up sex doll (complete with widely open mouth). Stacy inflates Charlie and then becomes a man (wearing a strap-on cock) and pretends to hump the doll. Then, Charlie puts on the strap on and becomes a horny man trying to pick up Stacy. She then pretends to fuck Stacy doggie style. Dick commands the girls to become women again and to play with each other's bodies. Of course, the girls are then told to get dressed and are awakened from the trance. They go home having no idea what has just happened to them.

Stacy and Charlie are always good actresses but their work in this video is truly exceptional. They play all of the animal parts to perfection and they really look like robots and marionettes during those fantastic scenes. The scenes where they put on the strap-on and hump each other are too great to describe. One of our best ever.

i believe most porn stars are monarchs and probably also used in those underground flicks only the elite gets to see.

soulja

31-07-2008, 06:13 PM

a little addition to Britney,

Britney's Multiple Personality Disorder

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Sources are now painting a very disturbing picture of Britney Spears, or whoever she happens to be at any given moment.

We're told the whole British accent thing -- well, it's more than an accent. Britney has multiple personalities, including, as people in her life call it, "the British girl." We're told when Spears loses the British personality, she has absolutely no idea what she did during the time she assumed that personality.

Sources say Brit has a number of other identities, where she becomes "the weepy girl, the diva, the incoherent girl," and on and on.

Sources say Britney had become the British girl the day she didn't show for her deposition and has no recollection of it.
http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/17/britneys-multiple-personality-disorder/1#comments

soulja

31-07-2008, 06:38 PM

http://multipleblessings.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/tinman_large.jpg

Tin Man is a three-part television miniseries reimagining of L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. It gives the story a heavy science fiction/fantasy steampunk emphasis and gives only allusive references to most of the original story.[1] Produced by RHI Entertainment and Sci Fi Pictures original films, it was originally broadcast over three nights on the Sci Fi Channel between December 2, 2007 and December 4, 2007 at 9 pm Eastern. All three parts reaired on Sunday December 9, 2007 and December 24, 2007 from 5 pm Eastern to 11 pm Eastern on the same channel.

According to preliminary ratings data released by Nielsen Media Research, the first night of the miniseries averaged more than 6.3 million viewers from 9-11 p.m., making it the most-watched telecast in the network's history.[2] It was nominated for Best Film On Television for the Critics' Choice Awards but lost to Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.

The DVD was released in the United States on March 11, 2008.[3] A soundtrack of Simon Boswell's original music was released after Tin Man premiered on Sci-Fi channel.

This miniseries can be seen as a sequel, set many years in the future of Oz, as well as a modern retelling. Dorothy Gale is presented as one of D.G.'s ancestors. The Wicked Witch trapped in the cave with her mobats may have been the Wicked Witch of the West in spirit form, before taking over the body of Azkadellia.

Plot

Part I

DG (Zooey Deschanel) is a waitress who has never felt like she fit in her small town life. Her dreams are plagued with strange visions of places she's never seen and a lavender-eyed woman warning her that a storm is coming. These dreams are realized when the sorceress Azkadellia (Kathleen Robertson), tyrannical ruler of the Outer Zone (O.Z.), sends her soldiers through a travel storm to kill DG, inadvertently dragging DG and her parents into the O.Z. Mistaken for a spy, she is captured and meets Glitch (Alan Cumming), a "headcase" who has only half of his brain because the other half was removed by Azkadellia.

DG and Glitch manage to escape, and discover Cain (Neal McDonough), a former policeman ("Tin Man") who had been locked in an iron suit (and forced to watch an endlessly looping hologram of his wife and child being tortured) for years, as punishment for opposing Azkadellia's rule. Once they start on their journey they soon meet the fourth member of their group, a "Viewer" — a telepathic half-human, half-lion (or half-wolverine) — named Raw (Raoul Trujillo), whom they save from being eaten.

The group then travel down the old road (now called the brick road). They then arrive at Milltown, where DG is reunited with her parents. She learns that her "parents" are actually androids who had been tasked to raise her by her real mother, the lavender-eyed woman of her dreams. DG is told to go Central City to meet the Mystic Man (Richard Dreyfuss), who has a message that will help her find her real mother.

Once in the central city the Mystic Man tells DG to go to the Northern Island. Once there she finds the ice castle of the former Queen of the O.Z. They learn that Glitch was once the former Queen's advisor, DG is the daughter of the former Queen herself, and Azkadellia is DG's sister. As children, Azkadellia killed DG using dark magic, but the Queen revived her by light magic, and whispered to her instructions to find the "Emerald of the Eclipse", an item that Azkadellia has been searching for.

Azkadellia and her Longcoats confront the group at the castle. DG and Raw are captured, and Glitch is left for dead after a struggle. In a fight with the Longcoat leader Zero (Callum Keith Rennie), Cain learns that his family, whom he thought Zero killed years ago, are still alive. Zero shoots Cain in the chest and he falls out the castle window into the ice lake.

Part II

At the Northern Island, Glitch is alive and finds Cain, unconscious but still alive - saved by a horse-shaped knicknack that his son had made for him long ago, which caught the bullet. When Cain awakes, they journey back to Azkadellia's castle to attempt to rescue DG.

Azkadellia interrogates DG about the Emerald of the Eclipse, but the only clue she can get is that the Emerald is protected by the "Gray Gale". DG is placed in a cell adjacent to that of the Mystic Man, and he advises her to head southward. The Mystic Man is then killed by Azkadellia.

DG is released from her cell by a little dog, and she quickly finds Raw and is reunited with Cain and Glitch. After escaping Azkadellia's castle, the dog is revealed to be a shapeshifter named Tutor, her childhood teacher (whom DG as a child called "Toto"). The group heads south, and Toto is revealed to the audience to be a spy for Azkadellia, marking their path so that Azkadellia's flying monkeys may follow.

During their journey south to the lake country of Finaqua the group again crosses the fields of the Papé, who were once farmers but became deadly hunters when their crops were destroyed. DG rediscovers some of her magic by restoring one of the Papé's withered trees, after which the Papé leave the travelers in peace. The group meets some of the resistance, who help them cross a great chasm without alerting the Longcoats. In the south, Cain discovers the cabin where he was told his family had resettled, but he finds only his wife's grave and an empty iron suit. As they near Finaqua, Tutor's treachery is nearly discovered when Cain shoots and kills one of Azkadellia's mobats.

Arriving in Finaqua, more of DG's memories return. As children, she and Azkadellia were very close and loving, but that changed the day that DG found a cave in the Finaqua woods and accidentally released the spirit of an ancient, evil witch. Faced with danger, Azkadellia knew that if they stuck together and held hands, their combined magic could protect them from harm, but DG panicked and ran, resulting in Azkadellia being possessed by the evil witch.

DG is horrified by her recovered memory, concluding that everything bad that has happened to the O.Z. is her fault.

Part III

DG finds a magical recording left behind by her mother, which instructs her to go further south to find Ahamo, who is DG's father. Cain leads them to the Realm of the Unwanted, where Ahamo supposedly lives. Following their trail is Azkadellia, who also finds the recording and learns about Ahamo. The group learn that Tutor is a spy, but he insists that he wants to help, and he only dropped a few markers to buy DG time in order to relearn her magic. The others accept his company on the condition that he remain in his smaller, canine form (Toto).

The companions enter the Realm of the Unwanted and are told by a fortune teller that only the Seeker can find Ahamo. The fortuneteller betrays the group to Zero and his Longcoats, and they are all captured except for DG, who is quickly snatched away by Seeker, and Toto, who in dog form follows DG's trail. The Longcoats march their prisoners out of the Realm of the Unwanted, but they are attacked by resistance fighters en route. The leader of the resistance is Cain's son, Jeb, who has become hardened following the death of his mother.

The resistance learns the rest of Azkadellia's plan from Zero. Her great machine is run by a brain codenamed Ambrose, which is Glitch's real name. Ambrose had designed a machine called a Sun Seeder, which was meant to extend the growing season in O.Z. Azkadellia removed his brain to get the plans and turn it into an Anti-Sun Seeder, which she will use to lock the O.Z.'s two suns behind the moon during the double eclipse, which is due to happen soon. After convincing Jeb not to murder Zero, Cain locks Zero in the empty iron suit and tells Jeb they will return for him in a few days if they succeed.

DG learns that the Seeker and Ahamo are one and the same. Although initially furious at her father for abandoning her mother, DG learns that he has been in hiding, preparing for her return. Ahamo gives her a magical compass, which DG uses to point toward the Emerald. Travelling by air balloon, they find the magical resting place of the entire royal family since past. Prominently featured is the mausoleum of Dorothy Gale, DG's "greatest great-grandmother" and the "first slipper" who traveled to the O.Z. from Earth. DG enters Gale's crypt where she finds herself in a black-and-white representation of her farm in Kansas; a similarly black-and-white apparition of Dorothy (i.e. The Gray Gale, complete with shiny slippers) gives D.G. the Emerald. (The use of black and white references the 1939 version of The Wizard of Oz).

Before DG can escape with the Emerald, Azkadellia takes it and entombs her in a sarcophagus of green marble within the royal mausoleum. DG escapes using her magic, and is reunited with Glitch, Cain, Raw and Toto, and together they head back to Central City.

As the double eclipse nears totality, Azkadellia uses the Emerald's power to lock the suns in place behind the moon. DG tries to reason with her, encouraging her sister to fight back, invoking her memories of their love. Meanwhile, Cain, Glitch, and Raw are attempting to stop the Anti-Sun Seeder. Finally, Azkadellia clasps hands with DG, who pulls her free of the beam, separating her physical body from the spectral form of the old witch. The two sisters hold hands, their combined magic shielding them against the witch's attack until DG's companions are able to reverse the Sun Seeder pulse, causing her to melt.

The royal sisters are reunited with their mother and father. Together with Cain, Glitch, Raw, and Toto, they watch the suns come out from behind the moon and bathe the O.Z. in "suns-light."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/Tinmanmovie.jpg

soulja

31-07-2008, 07:09 PM

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8229/ringohatyw1.jpg

[B]Ringo Under MK Ultra Mind Control

just reread your post back there, great thinking imo..

also this pic reminded me (triggered :D) at the Twins in last years UK Big Brother.
http://britmusicscene.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/sam-amanda-bb8.jpg

first off twins are very important in MK, Mengele for example was very much into experimentations with twins. also the illumies believe them to have special powers.

i already posted about that girl Nikki (Mk name) who also was on that show and later got her own series called Princess Nikki (with a butterfly style logo)

now to the reason why that ringo pic reminded me at the bb-twins.
http://l.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/i/uk/tv/i/twins2.jpg

soulja

31-07-2008, 07:33 PM

http://www.ladiesinthered.com/USERIMAGES/samandamandabigbro.jpg

btw those twins covered a song called ''Barbie Girl'' (as if the original wasn't annoying enough)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgcK1FTt2OY

in wich they lick candy, wear heart pendants and stand under umbrellas. ;)

soulja

31-07-2008, 07:49 PM

COMMON ILLUMINATI WORK WITH TWINS

The Illuminati mask the removal of babies from pregnant mothers with "alien abduction of fetus" cover stories. When twins are in the uterus, it is common for the Illuminati to skillfully take one of them. This is part of why the disappearance rate for a twin baby is 75%. It is so prevalent that it has been given the name "the Vanishing Twin Phenomenon". The Vanishing Twin Phenomenon is well established by statistics. Establishment doctors generally claim that one twin has absorbed the other twin. Some researchers claim that this can not be the real explanation for any part of the birthing process. Elizabeth Noble in her book Having Twins, (Houghton Mifflin, 1990) states, "With increasing use of ultrasound, it has been observed that more multiples are lost in the uterus than previously thought--some studies say as high as 80 percent of twin pregnancies. Considering that there are still 2 in 75 people born as twins, what a great number of twins would be born if the disappearance rate were not so high. There are many cases of two heartbeats being detected only hours before the delivery, and yet only one baby being born. Many mothers have been suspicious, but the doctors tell them that the second heartbeat "was only a mistake." The explanations that doctors give for disappearing babies who are never born often do not seem satisfactory. There are different kinds of twins:

a. There are dizygotic, also called fraternal twins. Two variations of this is when eggs from two consecutive ovarian cycles are separately fertilized, or a single egg divides and each of its halves gets fertilized.

b. There are monozygotic, which are identical, or clones so to speak of each other. Identical twins are always of the same sex. They share the same genes, the same fingerprints, dental characteristics, etc.

c. There are monozygotic mirror twins, which have identical characteristics on opposite sides of their body.

When one twin disappears, the surviving twin will often develop psychological problems around the disappearance, even if the child is never told that they had a twin disappear. The Illuminati believe that the soul of a dead twin goes into the live twin. They consider twins which have two souls very powerful individuals. One doctor, William Baldwin, has written in his book Spirit Releasement Therapy: A Technique Manual that he believes that the dead twin astrally attaches its soul to the surviving twin. Dr. Alice Rose believes that some eating disorders are the result of a twin dying in the womb due to competition for food.

To further complicate things, the Illuminati program their slaves to believe that they have a twin somewhere. Elvis Presley, a Monarch mind-controlled slave, believed he had a twin that communicated with him spiritually. In the Angel Times magazine, (Oct. issue), a childhood friend of Elvis states that

Elvis communicated with beings as a child. These being had showed Elvis a vision of dancing, and of people "dressed in white with colors all around." While it is popular to dismiss the vanishing twin phenomena with superficial medical explanations, or with alien theories, at least of some of the phenomena is the result of the Illuminati’ s massive system of abuse, where they need babies for sacrifice, experiments and programming.

The Illuminati believe that the soul of a dead twin goes into the live twin. They consider twins which have two souls very powerful individuals

Amanda and Sam

Amanda Louise Marchant and Samantha Joanne Marchant (born 26 June 1988) are the first set of twins ever to appear on Big Brother in the UK. Both are social-care students from Knutton, Newcastle-under-Lyme and before entering the house were students at Manchester Metropolitan University.. Nicknamed by the press as Samanda, the pair celebrated their birthday on Day 28.

When the two entered the house, they were classified as separate housemates. Following an offer by Big Brother, the twins chose to become a single housemate on Day 69, meaning that the twins nominate together, participate in tasks together and face the public vote together. Amanda shared a kiss with Brian in the early hours of day 70 Amanda and Sam were voted second and left the house on Day 94 with an overall winning voting percentage of 39.7%

a symbolic act ? note that Big brother offered it and it happend on day 69, 6+9=15 (555)
5 sometimes is considered the number of death

soulja

31-07-2008, 07:58 PM

in regards to Hunkas post about the replacing of Paul McCartney this might be interesting.

C5. Doubles (look alikes).

There is an ongoing program to find look alikes for prominent people, as well as a program to create secret identical twins (which are separated at birth and never see each other). George Bush’s double was promiscuous, while George Bush is a pedophile. His double was living in France after Bush was no longer President. By the use of doubles, (or one of the synthetics or organic robotoids) the elite are able to sneak away and perform satanic rituals. On certain occasions, if Clinton or Bush only needed to do low level tasks in front of the public, they could have their double substitute for them. The Illuminati working with several organizations has had a look alike operation where doubles of certain key people are found and then used. In the book Desert Shield and The New World Order pub. by Northpoint Tactical Teams, Topton, NC, if you look on page 32 you will see a picture of the original FDR who had a mole over his eyes and then you will a see a picture of the double of Roosevelt who they used, who had no mole and had different ear lobes. Roosevelt may have died prior to when it was actually announced. Over the years I have seen numerous photos exposing either the Robotoids or the doubles that they use. This author’s previous S' ’93 article had some pictures about the dead Pope Paul VI, who my Be Wise As Serpents book said was murdered. This recent Pope was replaced with a double who had had plastic surgery. As a double gets older the plastic surgery will not look as convincing, because time changes people differently. One ex-Catholic said the whole thing sounded like science fiction. It does sound far out at first, but the evidence is there for people to see. For myself, the ex-Illuminati have told me about the double’s program. From what I understand the double or look-alike program has been more successful than the robotoids and synthetics. The reason is that people live longer and are more dependable in some ways. The project to find look alikes for prominent people has been very successful. Plastic surgery has also been done to help touch up the doubles.

Section D. Secret cloning sites (See also Appendix B, where D.U.M. bases are listed.)

Ada, Oklahoma’s underground facility is being used to clone humans. The other cloning facilities are turning out weird creatures. Due to the processes involved they give off lots of gamma radiation (Gamma is at the far end of the electromagnetic wave spectrum--it is even a longer wave than ultraviolet). Because they give off Gamma radiation, these facilities must be dcep underground. The cloning is done at level 7. The average depth (according to one of the men who built these Deep Underground Facilities - D.U.M.) is 5,600’. The secret government has been building them no stop since W.W. II. I personally have only been in an underground city in Oahu, HA, but I have spoken to others who are wanting to save humanity and stop the NWO, and these witnesses know a lot about the underground facilities. One of the men who betrayed the human race and helped with the cloning was Austrian born Simon Wiesenthal. Simon Wiesenthal, was a US intelligence agent with a photographic memory (perhaps a scarred brain stem). Wiesenthal seriously hunted Nazis that were not on the CIA’s payroll or CIA associated groups. Simon Wiesenthal, under the disguise of being a great Nazi hunter, actually assisted protecting the FBI’s and the CIA’s agents who were Nazi criminals. Wiesenthal tried to stop CBS from doing a show exposing the FBI-Nazi connection. Jewish Intelligence (the Moussad) knew all about the hundreds if not thousands of Nazi War criminals that worked for American Intelligence and the FBI, but never went public about it. Instead they occasionally used the information as leverage against American intelligence. One of the code no.s for Simon Wiesenthal given by a Monarch slave was something like 063 097. If someone else knows the full and correct code for him, go ahead and share it. Unholy Trinity is a book written about how the Vatican, the US State Department, and MI-6 smuggled Nazis out of Germany at the end of WW II. An entire book could be written about the thousands of die hard Nazis who have been working for American intelligence, however Simon Wiesenthal’s name is mentioned here because he helped start the cloning for the worst elements of the NWO.

OREGON’S UNDERGROUND SECRET CLONING FACILITY

In at least one of my newsletters, the secret cloning facility at Bull Run near Mt. Hood, OR was discussed. Bull Run is a large tract of forested land with some water reservoirs/lakes that is set up to help provide water for the Portland Metro area. My house on Lincoln St. was also near 8 reservoirs that were built at nearby Mt. Tabor. These reservoirs at Mt. Tabor were for Portland drinking water too. The Mt. Tabor reservoirs have simple single fences on their perimeter, and people are able to throw garbage into these reservoirs if they want to be nasty. However, the Bull Run water supply which is very isolated is extremely well protected. It is rare that people would stray up into the area anyway. People are told that this large tract of land is simply for Portland’s water supply, and yet several years ago a Patriot military unit reconned the area after getting info from me. They were able to identify 3 strongiy guarded rings of defense at the Bull Run reservoir. The area has lots of electronic surveillance, etc. It is either the most valuable water on God’s green earth, or there is something else in the vicinity of Larch Mountain (south of the famous Multnomah Falls which sit on I-84)--something besides a water reservoir. Of course, those in the know, know that it’s an underground facility which the CIA use. It’s not an accident Tektronics here in the Portland area does work/research with holograms.

FURTHER INVESTIGATIONS AT DULCE’S UNDERGROUND CLONING FACILITY

My article about Dulce [which I investigated in person on foot] also sparked a small group of dedicated Christians to try to retrace my steps and find the Duke facility. They reported back to me that they found nothing and that the reservation police and the local people claimed they’d never even heard of any underground facility. All I can say is that, doesn’t that strike you as fishy that all kinds of people have been up in that area looking for the site, interviewing the Jicarilla Apaches that live in the area for years, talking about Dulce over Art Bell’s Radio show, etc. and locals have never heard anything about it?? At the very least they should know that other people looked for the site. The reservation and town of Dulce, NM have a small population. There is little that everyone doesn’t know about what goes on in the area, and yet they are surprised by the topic of an underground facility? The whole thing smells like the key people in the area have been convinced to keep their mouths shut & pretend they know nothing. My comments: sometimes when you’re looking for a rat, you’ll smell it before you see it. According to someone who has worked in the Dulce Underground Facility the openings on the north and SW face (Aztec Cliffs) are still in use. Actually the cliff that has a face that looks like an Aztec on Mt. Archeleta has been cemented shut because hikers kept straying into the area. A deep needle detector which could detect metal or magnetism deep down could reveal the Dulce Underground Facility--but people who get this close often disappear.

SUMMARY OF THE FOUR METHODS.

This Appendix covers 4 different methods that have been used to make copies of people, these were cloning, creating synthetic duplicates, creating organic robotoids, and finding look alike doubles. [Programs for all four of these methods have had almost unlimited funding by the intelligence/Illuminati elite.] Next, the basic principles for creating a synthetic human were covered. Synthetic humans were in some ways found to be superior to the robotoids that were created. The first few years of robotoids were fraught with problems. [Since my inside information is somewhat dated, I cannot give readers the status of current robotoid abilities, however, I believe from what I’ve seen that the program continues.] The synthetics were people who had their genes altered to look more like the person they were to copy. The robotoids were the formation of new beings that look human but are actually bionic robots. Their memories were created by using living "brain tissue" which is some type of programmable living biological matter, and programming this material as a sophisticated computer. In order to get the memory of the person being copied, a holographic image of the person’s brain is made and transferred to the robotoid. Because the robotoid "brain" is not functioning like a human (although the end result is nearly identical so that viewers have to know what differences to look for), there are of course some adjustments that have to be made after the holographic image of the host is transferred to the living biological matter that will function as the brain of the robotoid. Lord Willing, this author may write some more on this topic later. The ability of the Illuminati to copy people using the 4 methods listed above, are not going to be the deciding factor in their moves to control the world, but it does give them a great deal of flexibility in their operations. This author frequently reflects on the words of the Illuminati Grand Master who told Cisco, who was then a child, while touring a cloning facility, "Never, never think you are seeing who you think you are seeing

cheeb

31-07-2008, 08:03 PM

Justin Timberlake.
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Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger

Justin Timberlake
This curly-haired *NSYNCer has two step-brothers, Stephen and Jonathan, but did you know he had a twin too? Justin Timberlake had a twin sister, Laura Katherine, who died minutes after birth. He mentions her sometimes in the liner notes of *NSYNC albums.

soulja

31-07-2008, 08:37 PM

List of Famous People with a Twin

* James Alexandrou, actor (twin sister Antoinette)
* Chad Allen, actor (twin sister, Charity)
* Carl Anderson singer/actor (twin died as an infant)
* Mario Andretti, racing driver (twin brother, Aldo)
* Kofi Annan, former United Nations Secretary-General (twin sister Efua)
* Lillian Asplund, last American survivor of the Titanic disaster (twin brother, Carl Edgar, died in the sinking)
* Conrad Bain, Canadian actor (twin brother Bonar)
* Gracia Baur, German pop singer (identical twin sister Patricia)
* Blaze Berdahl, American actress (twin sister Beau)
* Nicholas Brendon, actor (twin brother Kelly)
* Jim Broadbent, actor (twin sister died at birth)
* Gisele Bündchen, supermodel (fraternal twin sister Patrícia)
* Gabrielle Carteris, American actress (twin brother, James)
* Keith Chegwin, British TV presenter and former actor (twin brother, Jeff)
* Gary Cherone, American musician (fraternal twin brother, Greg)
* Montgomery Clift, actor (twin sister Roberta)
* Henry Cooper, British boxer (twin brother George)
* Bucky Covington, American Idol finalist (identical twin brother Rocky)
* Andrew Daddo, Australian actor (fraternal twin Jamie)
* Ann B. Davis, The Brady Bunch (twin sister Harriet)
* Tanja Dexters, Miss Belgium 1998 (twin sister Mieke)
* Philip K. Dick, American writer (twin sister Jane, died after birth)
* Vin Diesel, American actor (fraternal twin brother Paul Vincent)
* John Elway, NFL quarterback (twin sister Jana)
* Theo Epstein, GM of the Boston Red Sox (twin brother Paul)
* Mike Espy, former U.S. Secretary of Agriculture (twin sister Michelle)
* Joseph Fiennes, actor (twin brother, Jacob)
* Max Gail, actor (twin sister, Mary)
* Andy Garcia, actor (parasitic twin brother removed from Andy's shoulder; died soon after)
* Eva Green, actress (fraternal twin sister Joy)
* Jerry Hall, American model and actress (twin sister, Terry) [7]
* Linda Hamilton, actress (identical twin sister Leslie, who played the "T-1000 Sarah" in Terminator 2: Judgment Day)
* Victor Davis Hanson, author (fraternal twin brother Alfred)
* Jon Heder, actor (identical twin brother Daniel)
* William Randolph Hearst, newspaper magnate (twin died as an infant)
* Jill Hennessy, Canadian actress (twin sister Jacqueline - both appeared in the movie "Dead Ringers")
* Marilu Henner, actress (twin sister Crystal)
* Ryan Howard, Phillies Player (twin brother Corey)
* Matt Hughes, martial arts fighter (identical twin brother Mark)
* Marlon Jackson, singer (twin brother Brandon, died at birth)
* David Jason, actor (twin brother Jason died at birth)
* Chris Joannou, Silverchair bass player (twin sister Louise)
* Jay Kay, singer (twin brother died at birth)
* Cory Kennedy, American Internet celebrity (fraternal twin sister Chris)
* Ashton Kutcher, actor (fraternal twin brother Michael)
* David Kohan, TV producer (twin brother Jono)
* Kate Lawler, UK Big Brother 3 winner (twin sister Karen)
* Gigi Leung, singer (twin brother)
* Liberace, impresario (twin died as an infant)
* Tony Liberatore, AFL footballer with the Western Bulldogs (twin brother Fred)
* Cory Lidle, Former MLB Player (twin brother Kevin)
* John Maine, Major League Baseball pitcher (fraternal twin brother)
* Shawn Marion, NBA basketball player (twin sister Shawnett)
* Susie Maroney, Australian swimmier (fraternal twin Sean)
* Kim Mathers, Eminem's ex wife (non-identical twin Dawn)
* Victor A. McKusick, professor of genetics (twin brother Vincent was chief justice of the Maine superior court)
* Naima Mora, America's Next Top Model (twin sister Nia)
* Alanis Morissette, Canadian rock singer/songwriter (twin brother Wade)
* Burt Munro, New Zealand motorcycle racer (twin sister died at birth)
* Mandy Musgrave, American actress (identical twin sister Jamie)
* Gaute Ormåsen, Norwegian singer (fraternal twin brother Hogne)
* Jason Orange, member of Take That (twin brother Justin)
* Alexandra Paul, actress on Baywatch (identical twin sister, Caroline, is a writer and firefighter)
* Elvis Presley, (twin brother Jesse Garon died at birth)
* Richard Quest, CNN anchor (twin sister Caroline)
* Dack Rambo, American actor (twin brother, Dirk)
* Judy Reyes, actress
* Marty Robbins, Country Music singer (twin sister Mamie)
* Isabella Rossellini, actress (twin sister Ingrid)
* J.D. Roth, actor
* Judith Scott, artist (twin sister, Joyce)
* Teemu Selänne, hockey player (twin brother, Paavo)
* Sab Shimono, actor
* Lori Singer, actress (twin brother Gregory)
* Gabriela Spanic, Venezuelan actress (twin sister Daniela)
* Katy Steele, lead singer of Little Birdy, (twin brother, Jake)
* Curtis Strange, professional golfer, (identical brother Allen)
* Ed Sullivan, TV host (twin died as an infant)
* Kiefer Sutherland, actor (twin sister Rachel)
* Amanda Tapping, actress (twin brother Chris)
* Jim Thorpe, American athlete (twin brother, Charlie)
* Jon Tickle, UK Big Brother 4
* Garrett Tierney, musician (identical twin brother Shaun)
* Paul Tsongas, American politician (twin sister, Thaleia)
* Ronan Tynan, twin brother died as an infant
* Sarah Vowell, American author (twin sister Amy)
* Shayne Ward, (twin sister Emma)
* Billy Dee Williams, actor
* Ricky Williams, American football player (twin sister Cassie)
* Will Young, British singer (fraternal twin brother Rupert)
* Sandra Sully, Australian Journalist
* Karen Cellini (actress from the TV series "Dynasty"), has a twin sister name Kate.

bobthegoon

31-07-2008, 08:38 PM

brown velvet

31-07-2008, 08:38 PM

and it's all in blue. wich brings me to color programing. blue seems very prominent in those Mk flicks, i mean watch Butterfly Effect you'll see a lot of blue being used. same goes for eyes wide shut.

also this flick with Lindsay Lohan overuses blue (not talking bout the cover btw)

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/deeperinsightsbook.shtml

page 63
ALIEN PROGRAMMING

· Blue beams of light are used as a hypnotic induction for slaves who are given the cover story of being abducted by aliens.

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml

“CODE BLUE” --Victim’s body freezes in motion and can’t move until another code is given.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/mindcontrol2/part07.htm
The part of the system that will function within the Illuminati hierarchy will all be intimately part of either the SPIRIT TREE (that is the Caballistic Tree of Life) or the TREE OF EVIL (which is the evil mirror image of the Tree of Life). Both trees were discussed in the Vol. 2 Formula book. These trees are both totally connected to the Spirit of the AntiChrist and rooted in Lilith and Tubal-cain. The Moon child ritual is not only performed when the child is still a foetus, but also at age 3, 4, 5, 6, and 16.

When the Illuminati child is in their teens they do the Caballistic Tree of Life pathworking. The pathworking rituals are severe, and many splits of the mind will occur due to these rituals. All the alters created during this work will be arranged at the GATEWAYS that pertain to that particular ritual. Therapists who do not realize how the pathworking of the 22 paths develops entire sections of deeper alters, may incorrectly think they can simply toss out the caballistic Tree of Life from the victim. Countless deeper alters are part of this tree. It has been said in the Illuminati that in general an Illuminati system consists of "the father (core), the son (the programming), the holy spirit (the spirit Tree also called the Tree of Life)."

The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave
The Red Rose in the Cabala is associated with the Tree of Life. The Red one is assoc. with one part of the tree and the white with the other part. When paired together they make a blue rose which is the Rose of Malkuth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malkuth

Malkuth ("kingdom"; מלכות), or Shekhinah is the tenth of the sephirot in the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. It sits at the bottom of the Tree, below Yesod. This sephirah has as a symbol the Bride which relates to the sphere of Tipheret, symbolized by the Bridegroom.
In many ways Malkuth is the most important of the sephirot. Unlike the other nine sephirot, it is an attribute of God which does not emanate from God directly. Rather it emanates from God's creation -- when that creation reflects and evinces God's glory from within itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_%28heraldry%29
Colour
As in all heraldry, the colour of a rose is important to its meaning. A red rose is symbol of martyrdom, a white rose expresses faith, and a yellow rose is a symbol of achievement. Roses can be found in all natural colours, in addition to black, green, and blue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Qabalah
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Tree_of_life_wk_02.jpg The Sephirothic tree showing the lightning:rolleyes: flash and the paths.

rose cross
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also the 7 colours of the rainbow are in an anti clockwise / backwards / reversal / mirror order :/

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Sound-And-Vision-lyrics-David-Bowie/FA641C1DF61BAFA4482568A2002CD9D3

Bowie's
Sound and Vision. Many alters within systems are deaf / blind

Ahhh...
Ahhh...

Doo, doo, dooohoo, doo, doo
doo, doo, doo, doo, do-do, doohoo

Don't you wonder sometimes
'Bout sound and vision

Blue, blue, electric blue
That's the colour of my room
Where I will live
Blue, blue

Pale blinds drawn all day
Nothing to do, nothing to say
Blue, blue

I will sit right down, waiting for the gift of sound and vision
And I will sing, waiting for the gift of sound and vision
Drifting into my solitude, over my head

Don't you wonder sometimes
'Bout sound and vision

(Isolation?:confused:)

brown.

soulja

31-07-2008, 08:48 PM

When you start looking into suspicious 'celebrity' deaths you can start to get dizzy as the list seems to be never ending. Check out some of these Dave McGowan articles for further info -

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/wtc13.html

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/wtc12.html

His stuffs worth reading if you haven't had a look at it yet.

indeed, there so many suspicious celeb deaths it's mind boggling.

thx for the links - will read them later this evening..

soulja

31-07-2008, 08:55 PM

great post brown..

The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave
The Red Rose in the Cabala is associated with the Tree of Life. The Red one is assoc. with one part of the tree and the white with the other part. When paired together they make a blue rose which is the Rose of Malkuth.

http://www.best-horror-movies.com/image-files/i-know-who-killed-me-horror-movie-poster.jpg

http://img.eliteemail.com/emusers/24235/blue_roses_of_far_and_near_cover.jpg

http://www.projectbluerose.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/pbr-cover1.jpg
Project Blue Rose

Black ops.
Black helicopters.
Secret government projects.
Hot men kissing each other.

If Mulder and Scully were gay men…
If Alias were set in East Texas…
You’d almost be prepared for…

PROJECT BLUE ROSE
written by Rachel Manija Brown, and illustrated by Stephanie Folse.

When young FBI agent Kyle Jordan was recruited into the top-secret government agency known as “The Institute,” he knew his missions would be illegal and dangerous. But nobody warned him that his partner Joe Rivas, an abrasive, sarcastic, emotionally unavailable man with a whole lot of secrets and sunglasses that he never ever takes off, would be as dangerous to Jordan’s heart as the job is to his life.

Project Blue Rose is the story of their first mission together: a flurry of hostage situations, fields of roses, black helicopters, doomed pretty boys, East Texas anti-government wackos, tender love scenes, tender hospital bedside scenes, psychic kids, bickering and bantering in cars, gunfights, surveillance cams, bad radio, and Texas barbecue

cheeb

31-07-2008, 08:55 PM

I Posted This On A Thread About The Gray Aliens
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30556&page=11

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Considerable evidence supports the contention that Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski participated in CIA-sponsored MK-ULTRA experiments conducted at Harvard University by Henry A. Murray, a professor in Social Relations, from the fall of 1959 through the spring of 1962. Kaczynski was subjected to "a disturbing and what would now be seen as an ethically indefensible experiment on twenty-two undergraduates." Kaczynski was a precocious, though impressionable, sixteen-year-old when he began his participation; his assigned code name was "Lawful." He emerged, years later, as a terrorist and has been sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
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Merry Prankster Ken Kesey, author of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, volunteered for MK-ULTRA experiments while he was a student at Stanford University.
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Kesey's ingestion of LSD during these experiments led directly to his widespread promotion of the drug and the subsequent development of hippie culture.

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Candy Jones, American fashion model and radio host, claimed to have been a victim of mind control in the '60s,

Infamous Irish mob boss, James "Whitey" Bulger was subjected to testing while in prison for a chance of earlier parole

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Bulger first served time at Atlanta Penitentiary (1956–59) for armed robbery and hijacking. There, according to Kevin Weeks, he underwent a torturous involvement in the MK-ULTRA program. The project goal was to research mind-control drugs for the Central Intelligence Agency, headed by CIA chemist Sidney Gottlieb. For eighteen months, Bulger and eighteen other inmates who had volunteered to lessen their sentences were administered LSD and other drugs. Bulger is said to have suffered from frequent insomnia, horrific nightmares, and occasional hallucinations throughout the remainder of his life.

He Is Still On The FBI Most Wanted List...

cheeb

31-07-2008, 09:17 PM

Black Rose
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Lynott's last years were dogged by drug and alcohol dependency, and on the night of 25 December 1985, he was rushed to hospital suffering from a kidney and liver infection. He died of heart failure and pneumonia on 4 January 1986 at the age of 36. According to album notes, recording of Thin Lizzy's debut album began on 4 January 1971, exactly fifteen years before his death.

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Lynott had been admitted to Salisbury's intensive care unit on Christmas night after being transferred from a clinic for drink and drug addiction.

soulja

31-07-2008, 09:25 PM

how appropriate, considering the black rose is often used to symbolize death.

and interesting that it was excatly 15 (555) years before his death.

In the 1940’s, the Jesuit branch of the Illuminati placed tatoos onto their mind-controlled slaves. These tatoos consisted of the sacred heart with a rose & a dagger, & were generally placed upon the left hand. The Jesuits have discontinued the practice of tattooing their slaves. Now all types of people are using this sacred heart tatoo.

The Rite to Remain Silent is a programming trauma which is a satanic refersal of the Catholic Mass. The VOW OF SILENCE is a keep quiet program activated by "THE WALLS HAVE EARS & THE PLANTS HAVE EYES SO YOUR SILENCE IS TANTAMOUNT TO SUCCESS." It is explained to the victim that the sea shells & the plants have the ability to hear, and that a sensitive occultist (programmer) can psychically pick up what the plants and sea shells hear. "MAINTAIN IT" --is a command to maintain the Vow of Silence. "MAINTAIN IT & LISTEN."-- a command to keep silent & listen to a command.

"ENTER INTER INNER DIMENSION TWO" is a standard Jesuit infinity program (2 is a sacred voodoo no.) Pontifax is a demon &/or alter placed in Jesuit systems.

BABY BREATH, BLACK ROSE, and WHITE ROSE are codes/triggers that are all used in Jesuit mind control. The Baby Breath and the black rose relate to programming having to do with death. The WHITE ROSE is a trigger to cue a person to release programming. The black rose is also used by the Mafia. The black rose was also used by George Bush, drug kingpin for the Illuminati, on his no. 1 helicopter for the upholstery pattern.

soulja

31-07-2008, 09:48 PM

Rose McGowan
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Former Charmed star Rose McGowan is the new Jennifer Grey.

The 34-year-old had a little plastic surgery and looks nothing like her former self.

Rose admitted she had little work done for an eye injury related to a car accident, but she obviously had a lot more than that done.

According to the New York Daily News, she was up for a part in the live-action remake of Speed Racer, but a source close to the writer/directors, the Wachowski brothers, says they decided against her after the surgery.

The source explains, “The studio felt like she was hard to recognize and worried that by the time the movie hit theaters, fans might not know who she was.”

A rep for the star says “she was not pursuing this role.”

The part eventually went to Christina Ricci.

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Rose Arianna McGowan (born September 5, 1973) is an Italian-born actress best known for her role as Paige Matthews in The WB TV series Charmed, and the cult-classic The Doom Generation. She has also appeared in several major Hollywood films, with leading roles in Scream, Jawbreaker, and the Quentin Tarantino/Robert Rodriguez double-feature Grindhouse. McGowan is currently the co-host of TCM's film-series program, The Essentials.

Early life

McGowan, the second-eldest of six children (plus two half-siblings), was born in Florence, Italy, the daughter of Terri, a French-American writer, and Daniel McGowan, an Irish-born American artist.[1] Daniel McGowan ran an Italian chapter of the Children of God to which both he and his wife held membership until 1978. McGowan spent her early childhood amid the group's communes, often traveling Europe with her parents. Through her father's art contacts in Italy, McGowan became a child model and appeared in Vogue Bambini and various other Italian magazines. Her parents returned to the United States when she was 10, when they divorced. She subsequently relocated to Oregon and then Gig Harbor, Washington, where she also met childhood friend actor Rey-Phillip Santos. McGowan did not speak English until she moved to the U.S.

McGowan's formative years were spent with her father in Seattle, Washington, attending Roosevelt High School and Nova Alternative High School. At the age of 15, she officially emancipated herself from her parents.[3] McGowan pursued a possible career in the film industry during her late teens, and also enrolled in a beauty school as a back-up.

Personal life

McGowan used to live in Seattle, Washington, but currently resides in Los Angeles, California. She was in a very public three and a half-year relationship with rock musician Marilyn Manson, and famously appeared with him at the 1998 MTV Video Music Awards wearing a nearly transparent fishnet dress.[13] McGowan later ended their two-year engagement over "lifestyle differences." She has since gone on to have relationships with fellow actor Kip Pardue, TV personality Ahmet Zappa, and Men's Health magazine editor David Zinczenko. Prior to the release of Grindhouse, there was speculation that McGowan was dating married Mexican-American director Robert Rodriguez.[14][15] In May 2007, it was reported that they confirmed their relationship while appearing hand-in-hand at the Cannes Film Festival.[16] On October 12, 2007 it was announced by Zap2it.com that McGowan was engaged to Rodriguez.[17]

McGowan has admitted to sleepwalking as a child. "The weirdest spot I ever woke up was a snow bank in Montreal. Now I just speak Italian in my sleep."[18] McGowan also suffers from agoraphobia, an anxiety disorder.[19]

McGowan is known as an activist for Boston Terriers. She herself has two, Bug and Fester, and has personally donated to various Boston rescues. McGowan reportedly encouraged friends to donate to Boston Terrier Rescue Net, and according to BTRN: "Having fallen in love with Bug and Fester, her friends donated generously. It amounted to a considerable contribution, which will go a long way in helping BTRN and the needy volunteers who selflessly give to deserving Bostons."[20]

According to an article in the New York Post, McGowan suffered serious injuries in a car accident early in 2007. Riding as a passenger, her car was struck by another vehicle and the force of the impact drove her eyeglasses into her face. McGowan is quoted as saying, "I didn't realize I was hurt until I put my hand to my face and felt the flap of skin. My glasses had sliced me under my eye." After obtaining the services of a plastic surgeon, McGowan is reported to be suffering no long-lasting consequences from the incident.[21]

Of her acting method, she has said "I'm not really one of those people who goes and writes some big backstory and agonizes over characters... For me personally, it's just kind of more instinctive. But I don't have kind of an acting background. I fell into it accidentally"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_McGowan

mrguitarbear

31-07-2008, 10:31 PM

mrguitarbear

31-07-2008, 10:45 PM

Marilyn Manson wrote a song called ' sAint ' which is supposedly about the break up of his relationship with Rose McGowan , this video features Asia Argento ( who we have met before in relation to MK ) :

I don't care if your world is ending today
Because I wasn't invited to it anyway
You said I tasted famous, so I drew you a heart
But now I'm not an artist I'm a fucking work of art
I got an F and a C and I got a K too
And the only thing that's missing is a bitch like U

You wanted perfect
You got your perfect
Now I'm too perfect for someone like you
I was a dandy in your ghetto with a snow white smile
But you'll ever be as perfect whatever you do

What's my name, what's my name?
Hold the S because I am an AINT
What's my name, what's my name?
Hold the S because I am an AINT

I am a bonetop, a death's head
On a mopstick
You infected me, took diamonds
I took all your shit
Your "sell-by date" expired,
So you had to be sold
I'm a suffer-genius and
Vivi-sex symbol

You wanted perfect
You got your perfect
Now I'm too perfect for someone like you
I was a dandy in your ghetto with a snow white smile
But you'll never be as perfect whatever you do

What's my name, what's my name?
Hold the S because I am an AINT
What's my name, what's my name?
Hold the S because I am an AINT

I've got an F and a C and I got a K too
And the only thing that's missing is U
I've got an F and a C and I got a K too
And the only thing that's missing is a bitch like U
I've got an F and a C and I got a K too
And the only thing that's missing is a bitch like U
I am a dandy in the ghetto with a snow white smile
Super-ego bitch, I've been evil awhile
I am a dandy in the ghetto with a snow white smile
Super-ego bitch, I've been evil awhile
What's my name, what's my name?
Hold the S because I am an AINT
What's my name, what's my name?
Hold the S because I am an AINT
What's my name, what's my name?
Hold the S because I am an AINT
What's my name, what's my name?
Hold the S because I am an AINT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXBGl0vzoZA

cheeb

31-07-2008, 11:16 PM

Rose McGowan , former girlfriend of Marilyn Manson of course.

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The fact she is virtually naked suggests a slave/handler relationship , this picture is from the 1998 MTV Awards ( how often do the MTV Awards crop up in relation to this sort of thing ? ).

Rose McGowan
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Sign Of Silence-No Talk Trigger..

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She had a tattoo of a pin-up girl on her right shoulder.
The tattoo was a copy of the Vargas Girl that Rose's Grandfather had painted on the side of his WWII plane. Her taking this tattoo as her trademark also seemed pretty apt as her love of the 40's and the glamour girls of the era.

When she was 14 she was locked up in a drug-rehab clinic, at the time Rose said she had not done drugs.

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In a rural town in Texas, go-go dancer 'Cherry Darling' (Rose McGowan) decides to quit her low-paying job and find another use for her numerous 'useless' talents. She runs into her mysterious ex-boyfriend El Wray (Freddy Rodriguez) at the Bone Shack, a BBQ restaurant owned by JT Hague (Jeff Fahey). Meanwhile, a group of military officials at a nearby US military base, led by the demented Lt. Muldoon (Bruce Willis), are making a business transaction with a scientist named Abby (Naveen Andrews) for mass quantities of a deadly biochemical agent known as DC2 (codename "Project Terror"); when Muldoon learns that Abby has an extra supply on hand, he attempts to take Abby hostage, and Abby intentionally releases the gas into the air after cutting a man's testicles off.

As Cherry and El Wray are attacked by the zombies, Doc Block learns of his wife's plans to abandon him and reunite with her lover, Tammy (Stacy "Fergie" Ferguson), who was brutally killed by the zombies earlier. Block attacks Dakota with her own anesthetic hypodermic needles, stabbing her in the hands renduring them useless. He then locks her in a closet before returning to the infected patients, including Cherry who has lost her right leg as a result of being attacked.

As Cherry and Dakota are taken away by two soldiers who intend to rape them, the others defeat the security guards, with JT receiving a gunshot wound in the process, and search for Muldoon. Discovered by El Wray and Abby, Muldoon explains that he killed Osama bin Laden before he and his men were infected with DC2 and were ordered to protect the area.

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Meanwhile, Cherry is forced to dance by the rapist (Quentin Tarantino) while being held at gunpoint. Cherry attacks by breaking off her leg across his face and stabs the remaining knub in his eye. Dakota, after realizing she's regained feeling in her hands, quick-draws her syringe launcher and stuns the other soldier. After killing a mutating Muldoon, El Wray and Abby arrive and save Cherry and Dakota, ultimately replacing Cherry's wooden leg with a modified stockless-M4 carbine with an underslung M203 grenade launcher. In the final battle,

Sheriff Hague dies of his neck wound as JT detonates explosives (and himself) to eliminate the zombies. Abby is shot in the head and killed. Block then arrives and is killed by Earl, shortly before the survivors use the blade tips of their transport helicopter to decapitate all the remaining zombies. However, while saving Cherry from a zombie, El Wray is shot, and the remaining survivors flee. In the epilogue, Cherry (now sporting a minigun prosthetic leg) leads the group to the Carribean beach at Tulum, Mexico, where they start a peaceful new society. In the final moments of the film it is revealed that Cherry Darling has given birth to El Wray's daughter.

After the credits have rolled Dakota's son Tony is seen playing in the sand with his pet turtle and pet scorpion.

Tarrantino Has Got To Be In On It Too
He Plays A Psychotic Rapist In From Dusk To Dawn Aswell...!!!!

cheeb

31-07-2008, 11:59 PM

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8936/rosemcgowantattoojt1.jpg

She had a tattoo of a pin-up girl on her right shoulder.
The tattoo was a copy of the Vargas Girl that Rose's Grandfather had painted on the side of his WWII plane. Her taking this tattoo as her trademark also seemed pretty apt as her love of the 40's and the glamour girls of the era.

Alberto Vargas (9 February 1896–30 December 1982) was a noted painter of pin-up girls and erotica. Born in Arequipa, Peru, Joaquin Alberto Vargas y Chávez came to the United States in 1916 after studying art in Europe prior to World War I. His early career included work as an artist for the Ziegfeld Follies and for many Hollywood studios. Vargas' most famous piece of film work was that for the 1933 film The Sin of Nora Moran, which shows a near-naked Zita Johann in a pose of desperation

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2862/noramoranst0.jpg
Majestic...!!!
Nora Moran, a young woman with a difficult and tragic past, is sentenced to die for a murder that she did not commit. She could easily reveal the truth and save her own life, if only it would not damage the lives, careers and reputations of those whom she loves.

Other Vargas Artwork:
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Rabbit

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Rose

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Ruby Ring

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Masks

The nose art of many World War II aircraft was adapted from these Esquire pin-ups.

americana

01-08-2008, 01:24 AM

In regards to the color BLUE, the magazine Graphic Design USA May issue was the "Annual Color Forecast".

It's all about projections for the "next big thing" in color - - in fashion, interiors, etc.

Here's what the Color Marketing Group has to say about the color BLUE:

News in Blues
The "trust me" color will continue to show up on candidates' ties this election year. But in all areas of decor, blues that remind us of sky and water - inspired by environmentalism - remain prominent, even in the kitchen. New is the emergence of a much blacker blue inspired by technology - a deep, vibrant navy so dark you'll swear it's black.

"trust me" - - huh

Blue is a color with many rich associations . . . the Virgin Mary wore blue, babies are born with blue eyes . ..

hunkahunka

01-08-2008, 02:41 AM

Pride
http://www.zenescope.com/images/shoplarge/queen_of_hearts_one_shot.jpg

Tales from Wonderland: Queen of Hearts (Zenescope - Brusha / Leister / Ruffino)

Wonderland returns in the first of three incredible one-shot issues! When two young twin girls are pulled into another dimension their purity will not be enough to save them. Lost, scared and unable to escape, the girls must find ways to adapt as they eventually realize that being raised by madness itself isn’t all that bad. Hold onto your Heads! *Also featuring part one of a 3 issue part story that will reveal the true origin and discovery of the place known as wonderland.

I am a big fan of the original Wonderland sereis from Zenescope. This one shot shows the fans that they are going to continue the dark, yet intelligent tales that will creep into our world from there. Knowing that the main two characters here are pre-teen girls, this issue will totally creep out readers in that psychological way, but not much in the way of violent action though. In my opinion a good, smart, scary story with a view images to make you look twice wins the best horror award over mindless blood and gore any day. Anyone who enjoyed the Return to Wonderland series will want these one-shots. Daniel Leister continues to show himself as a superb artist

Pullbox warning: due to horror content and visuals… not for the kids!

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Gay parade
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Gay parade

http://www.carobinson.com/games/GOTTLIEB%20-%20QUEEN%20OF%20HEARTS%201952.jpg
another goody from Gottlieb (odd how all these Jewish/German names crop up
everywhere) Google 'Liebenstraum' to see what is really going on here.

http://z.about.com/d/collectdolls/1/0/M/h/1/AliceQueenClose.jpg
Queen of Hearts Barbie doll

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Venetian carnival
http://www.worldwidewanderings.com/Dcp02043.jpg
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3648037/2/istockphoto_3648037_clown_2.jpg

hunkahunka

01-08-2008, 03:09 AM

http://www.xfamily.org/images/thumb/6/6b/Mene_cover.jpg/300px-Mene_cover.jpg

http://www.xfamily.org

Merry's Story — By Merry Berg

David Berg's (another Jewish German name?) grand-daughter was born into the Children of God, and suffered severe abuses as a young teenager. Today she is happy and healthy in her new life. What was the key to her miraculous recovery? Merry tells her story and her plans for the future:

From Merry ("Mene Mene"); California, USA:

My name is Merry Berg. I was born and raised in the Children of God until I left almost two years ago when I was 18. My mother and father were known as Aaron and Shulamite in the group. Aaron (Paul Brandt Berg) was David Berg's son. Therefore, David Berg is my grandfather. When I was still just a baby, my father died. The most critical time in my life began when I was invited to come to my grandfather's house. I was 11 - 1/2 at the time. At first I was totally awed by him and greatly respected him as "the prophet of God for the Endtime"; and I loved him as "my dear Grandpa".

However, as time went on, I became very disillusioned with him as I began to see what he was really like, especially his uncontrolled drinking and alcoholism, and his perverted sexual desires and practices. I also felt that he was very much a hypocrite, making rules for others that he did not keep himself.

For instance, there was a strict rule that members were allowed to drink only four ounces of wine each week, but my grandfather was always drinking sherry. I began to wonder: Why does he drink to make himself happy? Why doesn't he rely on God? I saw him as being a weak person. The leaders would explain, "Moses is an exception; he can do anything." But I wasn't satisfied with that. Also, my grandfather told members in the COG that they must not become jealous of others, yet he was not only jealous of his women but also of other believers.

In addition, of course, he gave many prophecies which never came true. This really confused me and made me begin to wonder if God's Word was true, because Grandpa's word was classified on a level with God's Word.

This all began to really disturb me, so I decided to "confess" my doubts to the leadership—By this time I was 14. At first they acted merciful and understanding towards me and prompted me to confess more and more. But when I was not able to eradicate these thoughts from my mind, they began to use many different tactics on me to get me to "repent". These included public humiliations and spankings, and major exorcisms which scared me and caused me to become more irrational, making matters worse.

When Grandpa found out, he gave me a verbal tongue lashing and made me really believe I was going the way of the Devil. He also gave the leadership license to beat me with a rod whenever needed, slap me around and tie me to the bed at night. I tried desperately to change but could not because it would mean denying the truth of the matter. I knew quite a bit of Bible, and different verses would bother me when I saw that what Grandpa did contradicted them. They finally told me that I was demon-possessed and had gone crazy.

Six weeks after the first tongue lashing, Grandpa gave me an even worse one. He said, "You little devil ... are you happy about all the trouble you've caused us? I wouldn't doubt if you were possessed by Satan himself." Later these two lengthy rebukes were published for the whole Family. The first one was called, "The Last State", and the second was "It's Up To You".

He kicked me out of his house, said he disowned me as his granddaughter and sent me to Macau where my uncle Hosea was living. He warned me that if I didn't straighten up, they'd send me straight to a mental institution. I was given one week to change. Change was impossible, so during this time I simply kept my thoughts to myself.

In Macau I was put under various people's "care". They locked me in a room for about six months. During this time I felt very hopeless and oppressed by bad spirits. I cried out to God in all sincerity and desperation for His help and for Jesus Christ to truly save me. No one was sure about my salvation. The thought of going to hell really distressed me. I felt like the worst sinner on the entire earth, although I had it turned around as to what my true sins really were. Looking back on it, I see that one sin I had to repent of at the time was an interest in the occult and the works of darkness. I felt that my grandfather is also very fascinated by these things; he has dabbled in a lot of it, and I seemed to pick up on this sin.

Feeling lost and alone, I had a major vacuum in my heart for God and longed to know Him, to be assured that I was His child. After seeking God desperately during this period of isolation, I began to feel a love so great from Jesus Christ—almost tangible—and a "joy unspeakable and full of glory" (described in 1 Peter 1:8), and tremendous comfort (John 14:26). The demonic oppression began to fade. I was more in control of my thoughts, as well.

When I was finally allowed out of confinement, they began to bring other teenagers to the same house with me that were also "having problems". Most of these teenagers had questioned or criticized the leadership so they were considered "rebellious, proud, self-righteous, having a critical spirit and in need of major deliverance".

Many of the same tactics began to be used on them as they used on me: Fear, restrictions (i.e. absolute silence), severe paddlings, and solitary confinement for "serious cases". They added hard labor to the list. There were also long, exhausting exorcisms over many of these kids.

We had to write reports every night confessing all our thoughts and telling on the others, as well. We were in constant fear of leadership's reaction to these reports. This home was called "Delinquent Teen Home" or "Teen Detention Home" because we were under "house arrest". The leadership decided that this was all very effective and have since set up similar homes in other countries,, called "victor homes".

After three years in Macau, something just snapped. For 13 nights in a row I couldn't sleep, I developed a high fever and couldn't get out of bed. They gave me some kind of drug that caused me to blank out. While sleeping, even though my mind was asleep, my body would be upright and continue talking.

They put me into that long talked about mental hospital where I was subjected to strong drugs. After six weeks of treatment I finally came to my senses. From there the COG decided to send me to my grandmother Jane Berg (Mother Eve) in the U.S.A. who was no longer living communally with the group. I was 18 when my Uncle Hosea flew me there.

In the States, the doctor took me off the drugs suddenly which was very hard on me. Grandma helped me get better physically. I lived with her for nearly a year. Then I decided I wanted to come to California to be with my aunt, Deborah Davis, and see my cousins, which is where I've been living since then. It's been a wonderful experience learning to live in the real world and see how normal people behave. I have been reading books, studying and going to adult education classes to learn word processing. I plan to go to college soon and major in French and Russian. I now can do so many, many things that I was restricted from doing in the COG, such as simply riding a bike. I also have many new friends from church. We've done fun things together. It was quite a dramatic experience for me to meet for the first time in my life two half-brothers and a half-sister that I never even knew I had!

At present, I'm looking for my mother whom I haven't seen in 11 years when I was separated from her. About seven years ago I was strongly advised not to write to her any more because she was considered a "problem case". Since then, I haven't heard from her and I don't know where she is. Apparently, she has been only an associate or fringe member of the COG for the last several years.

If anyone has heard from her or knows where she might be, please let me know. Her maiden name was Judy Arlene Helmstetler. She may now have the last name Irwin. I would greatly appreciate any information.
Merry (right) enjoys a day out with a friend, Petra Schieberl
Merry (right) enjoys a day out with a friend, Petra Schieberl
ADVICE! ENCOURAGEMENT:

In conclusion, I have been greatly abused in many ways. Many times I was tempted to get bitter and blame God for it because I thought it was coming from His hand. There were times I also doubted His existence. But when it came down it it, in the times of deepest crisis I had no other refuge to flee to but Him. He was the One Who worked things out. The scripture came alive to me at that time, "There is a friend who sticks closer than a brother" (Proverbs 18:24). So I prayed earnestly many times, "Lord, help me not to get bitter against You or harden my heart. Give me a solid, strong faith that cannot be shaken no matter what."

I rejoice to tell you that He did just that. It is obvious that only His supernatural grace could have brought me through these horrendous experiences and turning out "normal" and without being super-cynical. My faith is stronger than ever, and no one can tell me that God isn't real and just and still working today. The sovereignty of God is displayed clearly in the supernatural way in which He delivered me out of each bad situation. I now look towards the future with excitement and anticipation.

I have told many people that the following passage describes my testimony: "I waited patiently for the Lord; and he inclined unto me, and heard my cry. He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings. He hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the Lord." (Psalm 40:1-3)

I want to encourage everyone to dedicate their lives fully to Jesus Christ and to always put their trust in God.

check out the media page for different media coverage on this cult.
http://www.xfamily.org/index.php/Category:Video_Archives

hunkahunka

01-08-2008, 03:34 AM

Speaking of Jewish German names......

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David Lee Roth - Eat em and Smile

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pardon me while I barf. New Guinea? the Amazon?

Rolling Stone interview of David Lee Roth

RS: On your vacations, you go off a lot into the jungle - New Guinea, the Amazon - with a group you've called the Jungle Studs. What intrigues you so much about exploring?

DavidLeeRoth (DLR) : Total, total commitment. You don't depend on anybody. Nobody can help you. And it's scary. Really scary. It's like a roller-coaster ride, and the effect is very therapeutic. I'm a lot more calm when I come back. I get through everyday life a lot easier coming out of something that dramatic. I don't do any writing in the jungle, I don't even take a pad of paper with me. I get some really dramatic and colorful emotional responses out of myself, and then, maybe, I can put that onto plastic when we make a record. I do it because it's exercising the brain muscles, paying attention to detail. How many millions of little tiny things can you remember, okay? And then let's throw something else in the pot: Your life depends on it. That, to me, sends chills up and down my spine.

RS: Let's say you want to explore the Amazon. How do you go about it?

DLR: I just pulled out the map and said, "What's here?" And I said to my bodyguard Eddie, "When we're done playing Argentina, we're going to spend a month in the Amazon." And he said, "Great, I've always wanted to go to Africa." [Laughs] The last time, in New Guinea, I hired a guy named Skip Horner, who's an outdoorsman. We used the services of about forty people in putting this together. Skip had never been hiking in New Guinea. In fact, many times during the trip he said, "Man, in the seventeen years I've been doing this, I've never done anything this difficult." [Laughs] I took my girlfriend, a medic, one other fellow, the Jungle Studs, the interpreter and several porters, and we worked our way up the mountain. There you get sixty-two degrees of vertical jungle. That's steeper than any master ski slope. All you can do is take four climbing steps, stop, breathe and try and work your energy back up. You take some potassium and four more steps. Again and again. All day. You stop at night and then do it all day again. When I came down and started shooting the video for "California Girls," they'd say, "The Midwest Farmer's daughter hasn't shown up." "That's okay," I'd say. "One step at a time." "Hey, man, the monitor just blew up." "That's all right. I remember the beat." I'm simplifying, but it has that kind of effect on me.

hunkahunka

01-08-2008, 03:59 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7lWqRWb9HU

"Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind".
Television made him famous, but his biggest hits happened off screen. "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind" is the story of a legendary showman's double life - television producer by day, CIA assassin by night. At the height of his TV career, Chuck Barris was recruited by the CIA and trained to become a covert operative.

soulja

01-08-2008, 05:07 AM

came across this blog of some guy who claims to be ex-MI5
interesting read but i'm not sure what to make of it.

Eliza Manningham-Buller

An exposure of British Intelligence and their MI6 and MI5 training programmes. Specifically the "mind control" package " Alice in Wonderland". "John Scarlett", "Stella Rimington" and "Eliza Manningham-Buller" are all named within this site and related blogs. These people all belong to the "Royal Arch Freemasonry" Chapter in the UK. They think of themselves as the "Illuminati".

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Spot the difference: before and after plastic surgery to remove the disfiguring scar from her ‘dead’ right eye. Result of Illuminati MIND CONTROL ‘training’.

The highlights of THE unofficial biography of Eliza Manningham-Buller (as written by an ex-spook, who has worked for both MI6 and MI5)

Or as I prefer to call it: potted history of a shrimp who pretended to be a shark and ended up like one of those plastic blow-up models – just waiting to be harpooned.

Eliza Manningham-Buller

1980: Torture, disfigurement and murder of Kathleen – a Solihull schoolgirl who was later on to become an MI5 recruit upon the Russian course.

Manningham-Buller had originally been recruited into British Intelligence Services to teach Russian. She was a hopeless teacher but worse than that - she used to instruct her classes to stand up and do the 'Nazi' salute as she entered the room. We were not allowed to begin the lesson until this had been performed. She was known as the 'Mad Bull'.

Manningham-Buller took an instant dislike to Kathleen and set fire to her hair, in front of all the other trainees. No one was allowed to help Kathleen to put the flames out. Manningham-Buller was screaming ‘vanity of vanities’ to Kathleen, as her face burnt. Kathleen survived this attack but with third degree burns. She had been run as a prostitute (common use for female agents) but was now too disfigured to be used in this way. Manningham-Buller gave the order for her to be murdered. Various members of staff arranged for Kathleen to be ‘accidentally’ electrocuted. Kathleen also survived this attack. She was then smothered in her sleep. Stella Rimington attended her funeral. One of the ‘service’ always has to be at the funeral.

Manningham-Buller's reign of terror at MI5:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2305015.stm

‘She is understood to be keen to widen the range of recruits appointed to the security service to include more from ethnic minority groups.
Her specialist field is counter-terrorism, which is especially relevant given the threat posed by Islamic groups linked to al-Qaeda.’

This is a LIE. She is creating mind control slaves to start terrorist cells.

Spooks series:

I advised M-B in 1997 to take control of public image of MI5 (rather like James Bond is a great advertisement for MI6) in the same way as the FBI had done with various cop shows including the ‘X files’.

'A security source said: "We want to attract more females but the Spooks programme may be having a bad effect because of the way some of the female characters have been killed off."'

This show is now geared to recruiting young women (after having been lambasted for putting young women off applying because of the amount of female officers dying in the first series).

This is NOT fiction. This is FACT.

Moreover, female recruits are not necessarily killed in action – the vast majority of them are murdered by their employers.

A bad joke on my part? You don’t know the half of it

The Times October 31, 2005

"The concern about the shortage of female applicants has coincided with MI5вЂ™s drive to expand its staff from 2,000 to 3,000, following an injection of extra cash from the Treasury. Dame Eliza had originally planned to reach the new total of 3,000 by the end of 2008. But the date has now been brought forward to 2007 to cope with the increased demands for surveillance and intelligence officers since the July 7 suicide bombings in London. MI5 is also looking for new premises in London because its headquarters at Thames House is nearly full. Office blocks, big enough to take several hundred staff, are being checked within the M25 area.
One proviso is that the new building, which will act as an alternative HQ in the event of any terrorist attempt to target Thames House, will remain a secret address вЂ” as during the Cold War days when the MI5 HQ at Gower Street in London was never listed as the official home of the Security Service.
MI5 is also in the process of opening new regional premises, to house small numbers of staff to work closely with local Special Branch offices. Eight outlying stations whose precise location will also remain secret, will cover Scotland, the North East. the North West, the Midlands, Wales, southwest England, southeast England and East England"

Read ex-MI6 officer: Richard Tomlinson’ blog to get an idea of what MI5 does in tandem with Special Branch.
www.tomlinsonvmi6.blogspot.com

They have been persecuting and vilifying him for years. The ‘hidden hand’ behind all of this is MI6 but the Mad Bull and Scarlett (Penelope Pitstop to his friends) have been ‘bosom buddies’ for years. In 1979 and whilst employed as an MI6 trainer of new recruits on the 'INSET' course (a 6 month module of 'mind control' training), Scarlett was trying to have an affair with Manningham-Buller. He has had a soft spot for her every since. Manningham-Buller repaid this by having his young son kidnapped and raped in 1980.

Trivia:
Manningham-Buller was transsexual at birth. She is a lesbian and develops ‘crushes’ on her female colleagues. She attended a private school for girls with Princess Anne and has been part of the aristocracy from birth. She was known as the ‘Bully’, during her tenure as head-girl at this establishment.

One can say in view of Manningham-Buller's personal history that what she most needed to do was to see a ‘good therapist’, appropriate counseling – that sort of thing. What she did not need was to be made Director General of MI5. Nor did the country, for that matter.
http://www.elizamanninghambuller.blogspot.com/

Richard Tomlinson (ex-MI6 Officer)

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Born: 1958, New Zealand.

After university, Tomlinson attended INSET British Intelligence course1979: at Powergen, Solihull; Fort Monckton and MI5/ex-SOE buildings.

It was run by Stella Rimington (MI5 middle-management), Eliza Manningham-Buller (Russian, Politics and History teacher) and John Scarlett (who was the overall MI6 controller of the modules).

British Intelligence Graduate Trainee

The most pertinent training which was tailored to Tomlinson included:

1. The ‘MI6 Beast’ programming.
2. ‘Smelly Cheeses’ programming.

The first one refers to the ‘beast computer’ of the Illuminati program – the one which is placed into every recruit’s mind control programming during recruitment training at both MI5 and MI6. However, the MI6 ‘Beast’ mainframe mind control computer so to speak, controls not only their own people but also those of MI5.
(This was why Rimington stole the MI6 codebook in 1989 – see www.stellarimington.blogspot.com).

‘Smelly Cheeses’ is programmed in via the reading and enactment of ‘Three Men in a Boat’. Every Illuminati script carries words in CAPITALS which make no sense to an outsider unless they are given the ‘true meaning’ behind their usage.

Read Chapter 4 of ‘Three Men in a Boat’ on the Gutenberg website to find out the precise programming which is couched in CAPITALS of: ‘NO CHEESES’.

Chapter 4 relates how it is most important whilst traveling and carrying ‘smelly cheeses’, not to touch the goods; nor afterwards, once one has arrived at one’s destination! All smugglers are most worried about the safety of their drugs/contraband and therefore this ruling was the one which was drummed in with the most amount of ECT programming.

Tomlinson and the other graduate trainee programmers were given huge electric shocks after ‘training’ i.e. the enactment of this little drama, and would then be instructed to sit on chairs facing a large window. This was ‘relaxation’ to de-stress the brain. The young men would sit there and grind their teeth (normal response to ECT) whilst gazing blankly at the sky. ‘Mr Blue Sky’ by ELO was sometimes played at this point, to ‘rejuvenate’ their spirits.

The main point behind MI6 'Smelly Cheeses' programming was that prospective recruits to British Intelligence were sent on 'gap years' around the world on various 'missions' i.e. to courier contraband on British-dominated smuggling rings, which had their origins in the British Empire's 'snake-lines'.

SAS/KK rites

Continuing on: Tomlinson left the INSET course early (romantic disappointment) to join the SAS and then the SBS. The equivalent of joining the ‘foreign legion’. He had been also programmed with ‘Beauty and the Beast’ as a spin-off program but that is another story.

At this point in time, the elite of the SAS were running the OTO KK cult and Tomlinson became an honorary member. This KK cult has obvious comparisons to the American KKK cult of the 1950s but with one significant difference. The British contingent saw themselves as Celtic ‘druids’. In addition, they used the land surrounding Fort Monckton for their rites.

The rite consisted of rounding up a team of four new recruits from Fort Monckton and herding them into the back of a jeep, naked and blindfolded. They were driven to an unmarked spot in the countryside where the druids would be waiting around their bonfire, in white robes – their faces covered with pointed, triangular hoods. They were then taken like cattle, one by one, out of the truck and forced across the ground, blindfolded to where the druids were waiting.

Each recruit was then forced to kneel before the ‘priest’ who then rolled them in the mud. The ‘priest’ then took a burning log from the fire and branded them. The pain was so severe that many recruits were barely aware that what appeared to be a baby (accounts differ on this one – toy or for real) was then thrown onto the bonfire by the ‘priest’ in front of them. Accounts differ but most can testify to hearing a young child screaming. Whether or not this was a tape-recorder, playing behind one of the druids – is unclear. According to an untrustworthy source, this cult has now been disbanded.

Royal Arch Freemasonry Training

Before he left INSET training, Tomlinson also attended the Royal Arch Freemasonry course in Israel (see www.beautyandthebeastpower.blogspot.com and other related blogsites for details).
It was in Israel , that Tomlinson was forced to have his first taste of cannibalism, courtesy of the cult of St John , in the St John Church in Ein Kerem. Each recruit was told to eat a piece of what appeared to be a small ‘pig’ which had been roasted, on the altar. Tomlinson ate quite a bit of the above-mentioned. He was violently sick after the controllers informed him as to what he had actually eaten. A female graduate had to clean up his vomit later.

Cannibalism and the ‘Hellfire Club’

Cannibalism is still continued in British Intelligence circles via ‘The Hellfire’ Club – unfortunately not a fictitious society but based on pure fact. Tomlinson is still part of this cult which holds black masses to celebrate its rites. The most recent one to date which the authors know about – was held at a chateau near Cagnes Sur Mer, in 2002. Stella Rimington had organised it. Tomlinson was an active participant in the rape, murder and cannibalization of a tiny girl at this satanic orgy. All participants had been, at some point, victims of MI6 mind control programming.

‘MI6 Beast programming’

To complete Tomlinson’s grooming as an MI6 ‘Beast’ programmer, he was also instructed to role-play the Minatour of the Labyrinth. The ‘beast’ protects the British Crown jewels in MI6 mind control programming. Each recruit was forced to go down the tunnels underneath Jerusalem in order to find the ‘jewels’. Tomlinson stood in front of a cave where they were located and severely beat up anyone who dared to approach.
This is one of the most important aspects of MI6 mind control programming: you are not allowed to become ‘conscious’ of what is deeply embedded in your psyche i.e. the ‘crown jewels’. If you approach the subject, even in thought – the ‘beast’ appears and your mind goes blank. You literally reach a full-stop in either speech or train of thought.

Via Dolorosa

One of the tasks set the graduate trainees and mind control programmers who were running the Royal Arch Freemasonry course, was a ‘treasure hunt’. The treasure hunt was to test their ‘spycraft’ skills and general sadism. Part of this ‘course’ was based on an old Roman game which the soldiers had played with their prisoners. The rite of Saturn. In short, it was a sado-masochistic game, whereby the recruits were tortured and abused in a similar fashion to the Roman prisoners. This was called the ‘Via Dolorosa’.

The Origins of British Intelligence

The other part of the task, was to find out the history of British Intelligence, where it had originated and what different groupings constituted its organization, internationally.
The main clue was to be found on an antique British typewriter ’55 Imperial 55’ at the Jerusalem prison museum which used to be run by a certain Major Charlton during the end of WWII. The code on the typewriter keys, runs as follows:

1. $SV
2. XDM
3. KGB
4. RKK
5. AAN
6. TYM
7. ZKTZ
8. NLT
9. SKTZ
0. PF!

The 10 sequences above, describe British Military Intelligence from its inception (MI1) to the current, public form of MI5 and MI6. Can you guess the other ones? The authors can give you several clues: 7. = ‘zygote’ 9. = sex kittens. These departments are all still in existence, today.

‘The Golden Chain’

This is primarily a biography of Mr Tomlinson and not British Intelligence, therefore we would like to end on this point to bring the reader up to date:

A female agent reported back from Budapest in 1993, that Richard Tomlinson had turned up there from Bosnia , in an excited and frightened state.

What was the reason?

One of his male agents had been murdered. Not only that, but Tomlinson had also found a pouch of diamonds in the agent’s clothing. He had exclaimed (ad verbatim) to the female agent that he subsequently contacted: ‘you could live on the money for the rest of your life!’

The agent asked Tomlinson why he had not removed the pouch. The answer was obvious: ‘don’t touch the SMELLY CHEESES’. Tomlinson’s MI6 graduate trainee programming had kicked in. He was unable to touch the goods. (Most important when an agent/officer is given drugs to smuggle.)

At this point, Tomlinson’s chain of command was the same as it had been in his early ‘training’ days on INSET, when he had attended the ‘Russian course’. John Scarlett had been the overall controller of this course.
In 1993, John Scarlett was the MI6 station boss in Moscow and had been overseeing Tomlinson’s exploits in eastern Europe.

Who were the diamonds for? Tomlinson had wanted to know. He suspected that someone in British Intelligence was supposed to be on the receiving end but dared not report the find back to HQ. He was too frightened of the consequences.

Needlessly, as it turned out. He was sacked from MI6 anyway, in 1995.

Is there a connection between the two? Mr Tomlinson certainly appears to think so.
Read his current blogsite 2006 (the last one got closed down by SIS/MI6):

www.tomlinsonvmi6.blogspot.com
http://richardtomlinsonmi6.blogspot.com/2006/12/richard-tomlinson-ex-mi6-officer.html

lizzy

01-08-2008, 07:01 AM

Is David Lee ROTH, Bernard from 'Brave New World' taking a holiday with the savages in Malpais?.......Pass the soma please.......

soulja

01-08-2008, 04:00 PM

the more i read through those MI5+6 blogs the more i think there's something to it. they certainly display a lot of MK knowledge and i can't see how the info presented there would be usefull disinfo for the pTB.

that of course doesn't mean it isn't..

in every case it's still well worth the read imo;

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Ever wanted to know how one becomes a 33rd degree Mason within British Intelligence?

I had first-hand experience of the rites and rituals as well as the tortuous procedure involved, in order to become one, until I decided to speak their 'holy name' and get out. I am now 'unattached'. My protest was staged against their most unholy practices which are virtually unspeakable but I have now found the courage to speak out about them.

Let me explain:

'Water' torture - the programmers in British Intelligence bring you to a near-death experience in order to make you OBE...some people never come back. This is the birth, death and ressurrection process. The stages of the Cross - most initiates are then taken to Jerusalem to walk the Via Dolorosa in order to reinforce this programming i.e that they have become 'Christ-like'.

The programmers torture the initiate repeatedly, in order to break their spirit. An initiate is worthless to them if they are capable of disobeying orders from above.

Once a recruit has become what the programmers term as a 'son of god' (remember Antony Blunt and his 'apostles'?), they are fully under mind control.

The photographs above depict the symbols involved in this programming procedure.

I will not elaborate upon what each symbol means in detail (check the price tags - together they add up to 330). However, I will say that these photographs are of a cabinet-case used by the British Illuminati to test their initiates in terms of how well they know their own mind control programming. Each initatiate has to go up to the case with a 'master' and interpret the symbols and their meanings.

The Rabbi blowing the ram's horn?

British Satanic Zionism - nothing to do with the Jewish faith.

Everything to do with the worship of 'Ra' or rather 'Amen Ra' - the Egyptian sun god.

The 'hubbly-bubbly'?

Nothing to do with Islam, it is Alice in Wonderland programming - think the 'caterpillar' and his 'hooker'.

The DNA candlesticks, the owl (who is a 'doctor' in the upper case) and the owl (who is a mechanic in the lower case)...the upper level is the mind of the initiate as controlled by the higher Masons...the lower level is the body of the initiate which can be controlled and run like a car. The 'masters' can borrow the 'car' of the initiate and use it any time they wish i.e. to run errands, messages under mind contro
http://www.alicescapesthemenagerie.blogspot.com/

NHS British Intelligence Agent - outed

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Dr Jekyll or Dr O H B Gyde?

Full name: Oscar Humphrey Bohun Gyde
Date of Birth: 14th July 1936
Occupation: retired Consultant Haematologist
Religion: Royal Arch Freemasonry
Interests: computing and Artificial Intelligence

Dr O H B Gyde received an ‘A’ merit award upon his retirement.

Read the British Medical Journal to find out what these ‘Merit Awards’ are supposed to be awarded for:
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/308/6934/973

Dr O H B Gyde did not receive this award for services rendered to the NHS, he received this award for services rendered to the Crown – specifically British Intelligence.

Read the BBC’s article to find accusations of ‘cronyism’ and corruption within the system:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1998/05/98/the_bristol_heart_babies/148282.stm

The question is: why was Dr O H B Gyde given such an honourable discharge?

He had not discovered or invented anything new, nor had he added to the body of knowledge in his specialized area: Leukaemia.

Dr O H B Gyde is a fully paid-up member of British Intelligence and comes from a British Intelligence family. He also recruited his children into the Intelligence Services.

After being given an ‘A’ merit award, Dr O H B Gyde received an extra 40,000 pounds p.a. which was added on to his already substantial pension, upon retirement.

Dr O H B Gyde taught modules to medical students at a university in Libya whilst he was a Fellow of Birmingham University. During this time he was also acting as a ‘courier’ for MI6.

He also negotiated ‘mind control’ programs with notaries from Mormon Universities in Utah, for MI5.

Artificial Intelligence is Dr O H B Gyde’s specialist interest and the ‘re-wiring of human brains’ as he once put it.

To be specific, the repulsive practice of mind-splitting, left/right brain programming and the compartmentalization of the human brain.

In short, the reduction of human beings into robots or automatons under mind control, rather than the evolution of human psychology in terms of philosophy, science, arts and culture.

Why did Dr Gyde believe that this insane and degenerate practice of mind control was a valuable area of research?

He was a victim of it himself. NHS colleagues outside of British Intelligence, have informally diagnosed him with ‘High-Functioning Asperger’s Syndrome’ but he has never had treatment or therapy for this condition and it therefore remains officially, undiagnosed.

Dr Gyde’s family belonged to Royal Arch Freemasonry and a Royal Nazi cult which has controlled MI6, since its inception as a military intelligence department in the early 20th century.

The mind control program that Dr Gyde was primarily involved with, was the Illuminati program, otherwise known as ‘Project Monarch’.

The existence of this mind control project has been admitted to by the US government in US lawcourts where damages were subsequently paid to the victims of Monarch experiments. British Intelligence has never admitted to its role in this program and refuses to do so. One can only guess that the cost of lawsuits against them, would be too high.

British Illuminati (or ‘intelligence’) families recruit and program their own children from birth. Here is a brief list of what Dr Gyde and his associates in the NHS did to their own children and others:

The sadistic practice of the ‘Potter’s Wheel’ i.e. the physical and psychological abuse of babies and young children to make them disassociate and ‘mind-split’ – usually done by electric shock.

The sexual abuse and rape of young children by the Illuminati family and other cult members.

The Masonic rites and rituals involving the worship of Lucifer the Light-Bringer.

The use and abuse of NHS facilities to experiment with blood and DNA.

The targeting of babies in the womb, chosen for the ‘X’ factor and subsequent experimentation before and after they are born, unbeknownst to their parents.

To conclude:

Dr O H B Gyde is a paedophile, a rapist and abuser of both women and children under mind control. He is also a victim of the system which he has continued to perpetuate and perpetrate for his entire career. A system of mind control which is run by British Intelligence and sanctioned by Royal Arch Freemasonry.
http://www.seraphimraziel77.blogspot.com/

soulja

01-08-2008, 04:07 PM

John Scarlett: ''The Eggman''

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Why the 'Eggman'?

The diabolical Royal Arch Freemasonry of the British Illuminati:
The 'Humpty Dumpty' cult, otherwise known as the 'Dark Lily' brotherhood.
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Currently run by John Scarlett - Head of MI6.
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In layperson's terms, this secret society is an 'esoteric' front for the Royal Genome project.
Briefly, this cult was begun, in order to ensure the survival of the decrepit genes of the European Monarchies by infusing them with new 'blood' - more specifically, new DNA.

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Women were secretly selected, according to their gene pool and put under MI6 Illuminati mind control via the programme 'Alice in Wonderland'.
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'Alice in Wonderland' is no fairytale.
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During the 1980's and 1990's, the selected, female British Intelligence recruits were taken to see the 'arum' lily. A plant which stinks of rotting human flesh. This was to reveal to them the 'mysteries' of the cult i.e. that they would be used for their zygotes (fertilised eggs) in order to continue the research of the Royal cult i.e. the Nazi, eugenics project.
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The Royal Family and their associates, didn't simply want to have 'above average' intelligence, looks, talents etc - they wanted to be the 'superior race' in every way. They were continuing the Nazi agenda. Nazism never went away and it is being perpetuated via pawns like Scarlett, who is part of the 'fifth column' in British society.
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'Ar-rum' shouts the character in 'Alice in Wonderland' as Alice tries to break out of the symbolic womb of the house she has grown too big for...'Ar-rum'...the lizard is held up by the two guineapigs (penis and balls) after his attempt to 'get down the chimney' (vagina).
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This is the real meaning behind the sick parable of the British Illuminati, as explained to their new Royal Arch Freemasonry recruits...too sick to go into details but needs must. This has all got to be exposed.
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The women who have been chosen, have no choice as to whom they copulate with. They are raped by members of the Illuminati, having been forbidden to have sexual relations with any other man. They are not allowed to choose their own partner and not allowed to get married, have children or any sort of normal life. They are the 'sacred prostitutes'. After fertilisation, they are then forced through the most terrible and traumatic abortions.
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Read Humpty Dumpty's 'poetry' to find out exactly what happens to these poor women (the 'little fishes'):
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`I sent a message to the fish:
I told them "This is what I wish."
The little fishes of the sea,
They sent an answer back to me.
The little fishes' answer was
"We cannot do it, Sir, because -
`I sent to them again to say
"It will be better to obey."
The fishes answered with a grin,
"Why, what a temper you are in!"
I told them once, I told them twice:
They would not listen to advice.
I took a kettle large and new,
Fit for the deed I had to do.
My heart went hop, my heart went thump;
I filled the kettle at the pump.
Then some one came to me and said,
"The little fishes are in bed."
I said to him, I said it plain,
"Then you must wake them up again."
I said it very loud and clear;
I went and shouted in his ear.'
`But he was very stiff and proud;
He said "You needn't shout so loud!"
And he was very proud and stiff;
He said "I'd go and wake them, if -- "
I took a corkscrew from the shelf:
I went to wake them up myself.
And when I found the door was locked,
I pulled and pushed and knocked.
And when I found the door was shut,
I tried to turn the handle, but -- '
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The kettle was the boiling water, used to induce an abortion after breaking into the woman's accommodation - nowadays they use a stun gun to make the womb spasm. The 'corkscrew' was the implement used to break the waters in Victorian times. Until recently, a coat-hanger was used.

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The White Queen then gives 'Alice' (the female pawn in the British Monarchy's sick game) an extra clue to her fate:
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'"First, the fish must be caught."
That is easy: a baby, I think, could have caught it.
"Next, the fish must be bought."
That is easy: a penny, I think, would have bought it.

"Now cook me the fish!"
That is easy, and will not take more than a minute.
"Let it lie in a dish!"
That is easy, because it already is in it.

"Bring it here! Let me sup!"
It is easy to set such a dish on the table.
''Take the dish-cover up!"
Ah, THAT is so hard that I fear I'm unable!

For it holds it like glue--
Holds the lid to the dish, while it lies in the middle:
Which is easiest to do,
Un-dish-cover the fish, or dishcover the riddle?'
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The above verses basically describe the process of repeated rape, fertilisation and then the subsequent kidnap, and enforced abortion. The 'dish' is the womb and the 'fish' inside is the foetus/fertilised egg - depending upon what type of experimentation, British Intelligence wished to do i.e. on a living child or the zygote.

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Why has no woman spoken out about this before? The women are put through 'Alice in Wonderland' mind control programming i.e. abused and tortured to the extent that they are too frightened to speak out.

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In addition, if they do remember these tragic events: the traumatic assaults and attacks (most are programmed to have no memory of the events but tend to remember later on, normally in their forties when they are no longer useful to the cult) - they know that they could easily trigger 'suicide programming' and lose their lives. If they do start talking about it - they tend to be 'detained on Her Majesty's Service' i.e. sent to asylums and drugged into oblivion.
Anything more that anyone would like to know about John Scarlett?
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He is also a paedophile but this is a relatively 'normal' practice amongst the Illuminati, who view paedophilia as 'culturally relative' i.e. that what they are doing is simply 'different' from most cultural groups and not morally wrong or evil.
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Ask Dr Joanne Collie about it - she has been known to justify paedophilia on exactly these grounds. It is simply a different 'cultural practice' according to 'Dr' Collie and if one is 'intelligent' like her, then one can see that a father is probably the best person to 'break his daughter in' rather than some boy who might not 'care' as much about her.
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From the horse's mouth (Collie's) - 'cultural relativity' was one of the Illuminati's ways of preparing the ground to introduce Nazi idea as simply another 'culture' which had as much right to be, as any other grouping. Hence, Europe now has a paedophile party standing for election in the Netherlands and fascist (BNP) MPs in the UK. The ties have been loosened in terms of what defines and constitutes a culture - to let the fascists back in. The Illuminati plan has been very successful, in this respect.
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Ask at Susan Bassnett's Centre at the University of Warwick for details. Or better still, write to Mr Scarlett - ask him if he enjoyed raping and abusing all of those women on his way up to the top of MI6.
http://www.johnscarlett.blogspot.com/

soulja

01-08-2008, 04:20 PM

'John'

His Story

I was on the British Intelligence INSET course in 1979 and was also sent on the Royal Arch Freemasonry course in Jerusalem. Having read the other blogsites, I can add some other relevant details to this body of information.

The British 55 Imperial 55 antique typewriter on show in the Jerusalem museum prison:

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The Roman soldiers' torture game that they played with their prisoners, including their most famous prisoner whom they had named: the King of the Jews.

The British Intelligence officers on the course, told us that the Romans had sodomised him because they thought it would be a laugh to be inside of somebody who claimed to be 'God'.

The male British Intelligence officers and graduate trainees were to do the same to all of the British Intelligence recruits. Each and every member of the course, was at some point either raped or sodomised by the programmers or graduate trainees. Sometimes this was done in public, in front of the whole team of recruits.

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The 'B' represents the KING in both Latin and Greek. British Intelligence interpreted this as the British Monarchy and we were their slaves to do, with as they pleased. They forced us through the most terrible tortures. Some of these were directly related to the 'Stations of the Cross' i.e. whipping/flagellation. The 'lightbulb' in the centre, represents the Crown. The smaller circles represent the aristocracy. The thick black line going down the paper represents the lifeline of the prisoner. The objects which cross it denote the types of torture. Death comes at the end of this line where another smaller line crosses the main one.

In the Negev desert, at the edge of a cliff-top, they played the most terrible game of all. By this time, all of the recruits were under mind control and could not disobey orders. The programmers told the recruits to stand near to the edge, in a huddle. We obeyed. Rimington then took out a list of paper and announced that she would name the people who had failed and would no longer be attending the Royal Arch Freemasonry course.

She read out the first name...and then Scarlett ordered us to push him off the cliff. He didn't resist in the slightest - not a sound. Rimington then read out a second name. Three young people died that day. No one spoke about it afterwards. You just counted yourself lucky to be alive.

Powergen torture and mind control

At Powergen, the graduates (Daldry, Marr and Tomlinson) and programmers (Rimington, Maningham-Buller and Scarlett) strapped me to a table and put a metal band around my head. They were to do this with all of the recruits. The pain and terror was indescribable. One of the young women recruits was told to watch over me but was ordered not to unplug the metal band which was plugged into the wall.

The programmers and graduates all left the room.

Eventually the young woman couldn't bear it any longer and pulled the plug out. When the programmers came back into the room they told her that they had been watching her behaviour on a monitor and pointed out the hidden camera. They were furious that she had disobeyed orders and called all of the team into the room, in order to witness her humiliation.

Whilst this was going on, someone untied me and I began to recover. I was then told to tell the female recruit how arrogant and stupid her behaviour had been, in disobeying orders. To my undying shame, I did so. I could barely stand up, never mind speak but they forced me to tell her how wrong her action had been.

Another 'torture game' was according to the British Intelligence 'mind control' script 'Wind in the Willows'. Seriously, they actually used this to teach us the 'secret meaning' behind some of the scenes (as in 'Alice in Wonderland' and 'The Wizard of Oz'). We were told that we were going to have 'tea at the Great Hall'. 'T' in Alice programming means torture.

I remember Rimington called us into one of the rooms of the castle that we were driven to, in order to watch one of our peer group being tortured. He had been strapped to a table but this time, he was naked. Rimington was in hysterics, with Maningham-Buller and called us all in to watch. They were electrocuting his balls. Rimington kept laughing at the way in which the young man's eyes popped out of his head when she did it, reminded her of Toad of Toad Hall. We were all forced to laugh with her. Not to join in, would have meant punishment.

Afterwards, the young man sat on the stone stairs outside and cried. He kept saying:

'I can't take it anymore'.

No one knew what to do. We were all in the same boat and to offer him any sympathy would have incurred the most awful penalties. You were not allowed to show any human feeling to any other recruit on the course and by and large, we didn't.
http://mi5andmi6exposed2.blogspot.com/

A place to honour those young people who were abused, tortured and murdered whilst on the 1979 British Intelligence INSET course, which had its base at the ex-Powergen building in Solihull, West Midlands. This blogsite will be linked to others in order to compile the hidden history of those who survived the horrific torture and abuse they underwent, during this course.

In memory of 'Kathleen' and 'Sev'.

Two Silhillian teenagers who were discreetly murdered in 'accidents', not more than a year after finishing the INSET course.

Why were they murdered by MI5?

Kathleen was too disfigured to be run as an MI5 prostitute and Sev had begun to remember the torture used during the MI6 mind control experimentation, during his military training. He had also begun to talk about it.

Powergen, Solihull, West Midlands: 1979

Main base for the British Intelligence INSET course besides Fort Monckton and various MI5/ex-SOE bases, located around the UK.

http://www.solihull.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/12/FinalBrieftext.pdf

The actual building has apparently been vacant since Powergen left in 1995. Solihull Council have rejected proposals from other companies, to take over the site e.g. ASDA. The building has now been 'vacant' for 12 years. Here is a map of the general area - West Midlands, UK. The nearest city is Birmingham. Many recruits arrived at the Powergen building from Solihull railway station (five minutes walk away):

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The former Powergen site lies on the Corner of Haslucks Green Road and Stratford Road in Shirley, Solihull.

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'Jenny'

Her Story

I was inducted onto the M15 agent-training course in 1979, against my will. I had dropped out of Solihull 6th form College at 16 years old and was looking for a job. My father sent me to 'Select' recruitment agency in Solihull, who found me a job as a clerical assistant and I first met Stella Rimington on the empty third floor of the newly built Solihull Powergen building. She was to be my supervisor and tutor.

At that point, Stella Rimington introduced herself as ‘middle-management, secretarial’, 10 years later she was to become Director-General of M15. The whole of the 3rd floor at Powergen in Solihull, was reserved for ‘special government projects’. The rest of the building was nearly empty. Removals men were still moving in office equipment and Stella told me that Powergen had only just started to recruit staff to work there.

The others on the supervisory team included John Scarlett who was in charge overall; Eliza Manningham-Buller who taught political history and Russian; a Scottish SAS officer who taught us martial arts and Stephen Daldry (graduate trainee) who taught us drama. ‘Acting’ being one of the most crucial skills in spy training.

The first day:

I entered the Powergen building (surprised that they were hardly any cars in the car park - apart from a few, very expensive-looking ones around the back) and realised that there was hardly anybody in there. The receptionist called up to the third floor and Stella Rimington came down to meet me.

She took me up to the third floor, explaining how Powergen had only just begun to recruit. On the third floor, not only was there nobody around but there was literally nothing in the first few rooms, apart from tables. Rimington took me into a small room with a door to the left, which led into another. There were no chairs - only a box on the floor (with a computer in it) next to an empty and open filing cabinet. I was a bit bemused by it all but Stella was very friendly and chatty. She made me a cup of tea and went out to find some chairs. While she was out, I began to feel very drowsy and when she came back with the plastic-backed chairs I sat down, lay my head on the table and promptly fell asleep.

When I awoke, I felt very light-headed and passive - my will to resist had left me and I no longer felt on edge. Stella didn't seem to think it odd that I had fallen asleep and I put it down to being unused to cycling to work, in the early morning. She gave me an IQ test and oddly enough, my light-headed state didn't interfere with my score. I did very well, according to Stella.

She then took me into the adjoining room. This was about four times the size of the other one but completely empty. However, there were two men in there. The large one dressed in a khaki/green, army pullover and the other smaller man, was all in black. They looked nervous, impatient. There were three chairs arranged as if around a square and they told me to sit down on the first one. I did so, Rimington to my left and the army guy (who I later learnt to be John Scarlett) in front of me. The SAS guy (who introduced himself later) stood with his back to us - gazing out of the window.

Rimington and Scarlett then briefly explained that they were working on a secret military government project and asked me if I wanted to join. I asked them what they meant by 'military'. Scarlett began to talk like an 'British Army commercial' in terms of all the different skills you could learn in the military. I replied that this was all very well but didn't you also have to be prepared to kill people? There was an uncomfortable silence.

Rimington then turned the question back onto me by asking whether or not there was any situation where I might be able to kill somebody. I replied that in a war situation, as in WWII in defence of my country, in a 'kill or be killed' situation...then I might be prepared to do so. Scarlett then handed me a copy of the OSA. I read through it quickly - it seemed innocuous enough. Nothing too binding in the legalese jargon and I couldn't imagine that I would ever contemplate breaking it. However, something held me back.

I asked them if I could take it home and consider it. Scarlett told me that I could not. I had to decided there and then. I looked towards the door to see that the SAS guy had moved to stand in front of it. I didn't know what to do and so read through the form again. Finally, I decided that it didn't look like I was signing my life away by putting my signature on a form which appeared to be only about 'keeping quiet' and so I agreed to sign.

How wrong I was. I wasn't going to be paid as a clerical assistant. I wasn't going to be paid at all. They were going to send me on 'training'. I wondered briefly how I would explain this to my mother who had wanted me to start bringing some money in, to pay for my keep at home.

Rimington then took me back into the smaller room where three young people (slightly older than me) were waiting for her. I could see others arriving and walking down the corridor. She introduced me to them and told me that I would be part of their 'team'. Shana (17), Peter (18) and John (19). I never learnt their surnames and was told that everyone had a code name. Mine was to be 'Rose'. We were not allowed to give our real names to anyone but the controllers of the operation. Rimington then pointed out the 'graduate trainees' who were slightly older than the rest of the recruits, at 21 years old. I was to follow whatever orders they might give.

My team then took me down the corridor to the main room which was used for lectures. The 'graduate trainees' did not attend this . The room was full of young people waiting for the lecture to begin. So full that several people were crouching at the back. There were not enough chairs in this room, either. The lecture began - it was on 'political strategy' and as it continued, I began to realise that most of the young people there, were not of a particularly high intelligence (average college students) but more importantly, that the lecturer himself, didn't appear to have much of an idea of the subject he was supposed to be teaching.

Scarlett then popped his head around the door and asked Shana (my new 'team' member) to leave the room. She followed him out. I looked around at the others and felt uneasy. Something was wrong.

I asked one of the army guys positioned around the room, if I could go to the toilet. He refused, saying that I would have to wait another hour. I asked him politely if I could pee on the floor then because that is what would happen if I wasn't allowed to go. He relented after checking this out with the lecturer (to my embarrassment) and accompanied me out down the corridor. He was walking along to my right and told me to keep looking straight ahead. I thought, this is probably in keeping with military training but if someone orders me to do something, my natural reaction is to do the opposite.

To my right were two, small cubicle rooms which had large, open windows in them. I was startled to glimpse inside one of them, what appeared to be the graduate trainees and Scarlett who were bent over, standing around a table. Shana was lying on her back on the table and Scarlett was holding her head up. He had something under her head which I couldn't quite see - it looked like a small black truncheon.

Suddenly Shana's body jerked and jumped off the table in convulsions - like frog's legs being electrocuted in a biology lesson - it was horrific. The graduate trainees were trying to hold her down but they couldn't manage to do it because the seizure was so violent. The army guy with me realised that I had seen this and gripped me round the shoulders whilst trying to cover my eyes with his other hand.

'Don't look, don't look' he said in a low voice. 'It'll only upset you.'

He then proceed to frogmarch me to the toilets at the end of the corridor, past the escalator which now had an SAS guy stationed in front of it. I was to learn later on, that this man had a dual purpose: to stop any Powergen employees from entering that floor from the other levels of the building and also to prevent British Intelligence recruits from escaping.

Once in the toilets, I checked the windows. All of them were locked. I didn't know what to do. The army guy outside started to shout at me, telling me to hurry up. I opened the door to find him blocking the doorway. My mind was racing - how could I escape? What were they going to do to us? What were they going to do to me? I was escorted back to the lecture, frightened out of my mind.

British Intelligence Torture Techniques

I would like to briefly recount here, the two systems of torture, which comprised a large part of 'training' on the INSET course. 'Mind control' programming was intermixed with torture - the objective being, to break a person in terms of their mind, body and soul. The hoped-for result was that agents and officers would then follow commands and orders, unquestioningly.

Torture was divided up into 'hot' and 'cold' as well as 'wet' and 'dry'.

Every recruit was tortured arbitarily and at random, regardless or whether or not they had performed well at the tasks set. Even if a recruit followed orders unquestioningly - they were still tortured as much as anybody else. People who excelled at tasks were tortured because they had shown 'pride' and therefore their ego had to be punctured.

Recruits quickly learnt not to excel or to fail any task - most importantly, they learnt to follow orders unquestioningly, even if it meant abusing one of their peer group whom they knew was entirely innocent and did not deserve to be 'punished' at all.

When 'punishment' has no rhyme or reason, it kills most people's spirit of rebellion very quickly. It is the quickest way to break a person's heart and mind - they become something less than human.

'Cold' Torture

(A survivor's account)

"We had sessions in breathing control and how long we could hold our breath - presumably for any operation which required swimming under water. We were made to practice and the programmers timed us and took our best results.

We were then taken to Fort Monckton where we were given various practical training sessions, run by the SAS. During our stay there, each one of us was taken away for a morning. When the recruit came back, he or she could not speak about what had happened. They had been forbidden to and so none of us knew what to expect.

When my turn came, I was taken by the graduate programmers and Manningham-Buller to a small room with no windows, where there was a large tank of water. I was told to strip and get into it. Once inside the tank, they put a lid on and bolted it down. There was still air at the top of the tank but this began to rapidly disappear and I realised that there was a pipe at the bottom of the tank which was filling it up. Someone had turned on the tap. I cannot describe what I felt like at that moment of realisation. It was impossible to escape.

I held my breath for as long as I could but eventually began to take in water. When they took the lid off, I must have been unconscious.

I remember coming to, on the floor. I could hear a huge argument going on between one of the SAS in the doorway and Manningham-Buller. He was shouting abuse at her...that I was one of their best recruits and what the hell was she doing...Manningham-Buller sounded rather strange. She kept saying that it was 'just like drowning kittens' in a rather fey and bewildered voice. She didn't appear to understand why the SAS officer was so enraged.

Afterwards, I developed a lung infection and had to spend several days in sickbay."

'Hot' torture

The graduate trainees on the INSET course at Powergen - had been given a 'student house' of their own, in Solihull. A road which was opposite a paddock with a couple of horses in it, just behind the Franciscan Monastery.

The graduates used to 'use' the female recruits as prostitutes in the evening and it was common for them to order young women recruits to stay the night. Under mind control - it was almost impossible to refuse and if anyone did, they faced severe punishment. The graduates would then close the curtains of their living room and watch each other use the women.

I was taken there one evening and told to strip in the kitchen. The graduates had laid out newspaper on the floor. I was terrified but had no idea what to expect. They told me to lie down on the floor. Daldry then took a chip pan of smoking oil from the stove and began to flick boiling oil at me. It was excruciatingly painful and I began to scream.

This stopped him in his tracks (worried about what the neighbours might think) and Marr told me to 'switch alters'. Under mind control, there is an alter called 'rubber duck' which is supposed to be impervious to pain. I was ordered to keep silent. Tomlinson came in and filled a bucket of water.

Daldry then tipped the entire contents of the smoking, chip pan oil onto my stomach. They waited a few seconds and then Tomlinson threw the bucket of water over me. Marr was watching, he didn't say a word.

I don't remember anything much after that. I must have passed out. When I woke up, I was lying in the middle of their living room, naked under a blanket. They had left me there and gone to bed. I nearly choked as I woke up - the need to breath and to vomit, at the same time.

I began to feel myself to see if there were any bones broken...a natural reaction I suppose...I hadn't quite remembered what had happened...it was then that I saw that my stomach was bright red, as well as part of my torso. The pain kicked in and I found myself unable to move. I lay there sobbing, I was so frightened.

Tomlinson came down and whispered in my ear to 'grit your teeth and bear it'. He then went upstairs again. They left me there for the whole night. I was terrified, too frightened to cry out - too hot and yet shivering, with this horrible need to scratch but my stomach was too painful to touch.

In the morning, the graduates took me in to Powergen as if nothing had happened. I could hardly walk. When we arrived, I told Rimington that I had to go to hospital. She replied that I should join in and that I would feel better later on.

I told her that if she would not take me to hospital then she would have to call a doctor to Powergen or else I would die on the floor. At that point, she began to realise the seriousness of the situation and called the graduates out of the room to question them upon what they had done to me. She then consulted Scarlett who agreed that she should run me to hospital.

I was driven to a military hospital, where a doctor examined me. Rimington told him what had happened. As I lay on a hospital bed, the doctor exclaimed in front of me that it was a miracle that I had survived. He was surprised that my internal organs had not gone into shock. He then remarked that the 'blubber' on my stomach had probably saved me.
http://www.mi5andmi6exposed3.blogspot.com/

soulja

01-08-2008, 05:15 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a8/Canibus_Mind_Control.jpg/200px-Canibus_Mind_Control.jpg
interesting title i thought, even more so when considering his segmented head (mind)

soulja

01-08-2008, 05:19 PM

http://www.movieeditor.com/2007/mind.control/cover.mind.control.gif

look! what a coincidence, they only show us one eye when referring to mind control. ;)

hunkahunka

01-08-2008, 05:24 PM

The Rabbi blowing the ram's horn?
British Satanic Zionism - nothing to do with the Jewish faith.
Everything to do with the worship of 'Ra' or rather 'Amen Ra' - the Egyptian sun god.
The 'hubbly-bubbly'?
Nothing to do with Islam, it is Alice in Wonderland programming - think the 'caterpillar' and his 'hooker'.

of course, the caterpillar smokes the drugs, and then emerges from its cocoon, and becomes the 'butterfly', high away, bye bye.

watch Naked Lunch, tons of William Burrough's caterpillar/drug references there, and , btw, antique typewriters! imo, Mk victim William Burroughs was having drug-induced flashbacks and hallucinations and recording them in his journals, and Kesey
and Kerouac and Ginsberg worked the muddled journals up into novels.

soulja

01-08-2008, 05:29 PM

will watch it if i get my hands on it, the short summary i've read sure sounds interesting.

Exterminator Bill Lee finds himself following his wife into an addiction to the bug powder he uses. After accidentally killing her, he descends into a hallucinatory existence in which he imagines himself a secret agent answering to a series of bizarre creatures. He channels his energies into writing "reports" on his delusional mission, while trying to break his addiction. The story loosely reflects events in the life of author Burroughs as he wrote the novel.

http://lepetit-xiaoxiao.eco.to/weblog/image/2007/05/nakedlunch.jpg

hunkahunka

01-08-2008, 06:10 PM

the latest (2008) creepy Carnival of Venice offering from
the same Steve Price:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq0_a-LCFEs
Shot during the final weekend of the Carnival of Venice, February 2008.
Filmed and edited by Steve Price, who has documented every Carnival of Venice since 2003.
Music - "Nothing Else" by Archive

lyrics to "Nothing Else" - Archive
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My angel clipped wings I know
Wonders in darkness on grimy ground
In a forest unclean unsound
Everything everythings gone wild
Make land for the cows to graze
Leaflets scatter around to advertise sell out

A swamp in it hands stretched out
To catch a passing dime
Donations to the rich widened
Pavements for the poor
Somewhere else to lie
But my friend the carriage door
Stands slightly ajar
And I know clipped wings make uneasy flight
But we've got to reach

Chorus :

A place where the feast never ends
A moment when the music celebrates
And a time when darkness belongs
To night skies and nothing else
Nothing else -no-

Tomorrow my spirit seen
Fears today my mind
Soul aches so deep
Always craves my body to reach

( repeat chorus )

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAepkqQVmns&feature=related
Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6nyjR90Ofs&feature=related
Part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlpEPlOx69U&feature=related

soulja

01-08-2008, 07:33 PM

another interesting bit from the MI5 blog

The Monarchists also decided to implant their 'royal' DNA outside the Royal nest i.e. as 'cuckoos' in other nests.

Why?

So that they could then use these blood relatives to govern society in all its aspects.

The chosen mothers had no idea that they were being used as 'brood mares' and tend to refer to themselves as the 'goose who lays the golden eggs'.

The Monarchists then kept records of where their DNA had been implanted outside of the Royal lineage.

Eggs with their DNA strands were implanted into women chosen for their 'superior genes',who had been put under mind control.

A clue to an 'Illuminati' mother is that she will tend to refer to her child as a 'starfish' - the five-pointed star. The Duchess calls her baby a 'starfish' in Alice in Wonderland programming. (Alice later discards the poor child, referring to it as as a 'pig').

Hence the huge amount of 'bastard' children, who were then picked to be the next leaders, politicians, writers, artists of the next generation. This was to be an almost entirely successful operation in my generation but judging by the general mediocrity of UK society in terms of philosophical thought, literature, arts and science, maybe not such a good idea!

These 'bastards' were supposed to not only have a few of the 'royal' DNA strands, some of them were also supposed to have super-human abilities which had been put in via British Intelligence training i.e. alters with photographic memories, abnormal strength etc. However these 'alters' cannot be accessed by anyone apart from the Illuminati programmer i.e. controller at British Intelligence.

hunkahunka

01-08-2008, 07:40 PM

Soulja, mind-blowing stuff.

I keep thinking of the woman in Nirvana's 'Heart-shaped Box' video with the mutilated
(burnt?) stomach, and the song's references
to 'Angel's Hair' and Baby's Breath', the little
girl in the pointed 'druid hood', the fetuses,
flowers, as well as the title of the album 'In Utero'
as it relates to programming/trauma begun before birth,
etc. 'magnet tar-pit trap' is like the 'rotting-flesh' lily that attracts
bugs via its odor and then acts like a roach-motel trap, the bugs
get stuck in a gooey glue substance and slowly digested,
So much of the imagery in the video
and lyrics corresponds with what you have
posted here.

hunkahunka

01-08-2008, 08:13 PM

Heart - Shaped Box Lyrics
Artist(Band):Nirvana

She eyes me like a pisces when I am weak
I've been locked inside your Heart Shaped box, for weeks
I've been drawn into your magnet tar pit trap
I wish I could eat your cancer when you turn black

Hey!
Wait!
I've got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless advice
hey
wait
I've got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless advice
Hey!
Wait!
I've got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless advice

...your advice

Meat-eating orchids forgive no one just yet
Cut myself on Angel Hair and baby's breath
Broken hymen of your highness I'm left black
Throw down your umbilical noose so I can climb right back

Hey!
Wait!
I've got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless advice
hey!
Wait!
I've got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless advice
Hey!
Wait!
I've got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless advice
...Your advice

*guitar solo*

She eyes me like a pisces when I am weak
I've been locked inside your Heart-Shaped box for weeks
I've been drawn into your magnet tar pit trap
I wish I could Eat your cancer when you turn black

Hey!
Wait!
I've got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless advice
hey!
wait!
I've got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless advice
Hey!
Wait!
I've got a new complaint
Forever in debt to your priceless advice
Your advice
Your advice
Your advice

hunkahunka

01-08-2008, 08:36 PM

Originally a film in 1960, made into a Broadway musical,and remade as a film in 1986.

Little Shop of Horrors (1986)

http://baytown.littletheater.org/images/littleshop.jpg

Director:
Frank Oz

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Little Shop of Horrors is a rock musical by composer Alan Menken and writer Howard Ashman, about a nerdy florist shop worker who raises a plant that feeds on human blood. The musical was based on the low-budget 1960 black comedy The Little Shop of Horrors, directed by Roger Corman. The music, composed by Menken in the style of 1960s rock and roll, doo-wop and early Motown, included several show-stoppers including "Skid Row (Downtown)," "Somewhere That's Green," and "Suddenly Seymour," as well as the title song.

In addition to the original long-running 1982 off-Broadway production and subsequent Broadway production, the musical has been performed all over the world, including in Buenos Aires, Sydney, Vienna, São Paulo, Toronto, Copenhagen, Helsinki, Paris, Berlin, Athens, Budapest, Reykjavík, Jerusalem, Rome, Tokyo, Zurich, Athens, Barcelona, Cologne, Mexico City, Auckland, Oslo, Singapore City, Johannesburg, Madrid, Stockholm, Seinajoki, Akureyri, Vaasa, and London. The musical is scheduled to be performed in Bogota, Colombia in July 2008. Because of its small cast and relatively simple orchestrations, it has become popular with community theatre and high school groups.[1] The musical was also made into a film in 1986, directed by Frank Oz.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4573806289320569974&q=little+shop+of+horrors&ei=l1WTSPq-MIz4-wGLi5SXDQ&hl=en

Classic Black Comedy about a young schnook who develops a bloodthirsty plant and is forced to kill in order to feed it. Directed by Roger Corman, this film was the basis for the later hit stage musical. Interestingly enough, Jack Nicholson plays a small role.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3qkbf_little-shop-of-horrors-feed-me-git_shortfilms

emerald

02-08-2008, 01:34 PM

Talking of all that, I remember JOHNNY DEPP said once that he's been afraid of clowns since childhood and he doesnt find them funny at all...

mrguitarbear

02-08-2008, 03:36 PM

The rumour is that Johnny Depp is going to play The Riddler in the next Batman movie !

brown velvet

02-08-2008, 05:27 PM

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willy wonka, candy cane trees

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top hat, 'prod' / wand / lolipop head? Purple gloves? :S

http://www.dontheglove.com/mgarticles/manycolors.html
The Many Colors of Medical Gloves
Medical gloves come in a wide variety of colors from white to green, creating a unique challenge for work environments. The many colors of medical gloves can confuse users and result in problems from using the wrong type of glove.

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canal, lollipops as trees
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veruca salt + lollipops
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Violet and candy bubble

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Britney Spears’ Lollipops Are Laced with Morphine

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/2007/08/08/britney-spears-lollipops-are-laced-with-morphine/

According to The Enquirer:
Britney was introduced to the “drug lollipops: while on her “ONYX” tour in Europe in 2004, said her friend. In Amsterdam, she visited legal marijuana cafes where the lollipops were sold.
After the tour, Britney found a place to buy marijuana “pops” in Santa Monica, said the source. But the insider claims she soon graduated from marijuana-laced lollipops to pops laced with a morphine-like drug that’s an even more potent narcotic.
“The morphine-laced pops are round and look like gumballs,” said the source. “Britney was photographed with them in New York right before her breakdown. Sometimes she’d pass out after sucking a morphine pop. She mixed it with alcohol and could barely stand up and ended up throwing up.
“Now it is as if she uses the pops as a substitute for pain pills or Vicodin.”

Yes, those “lolipops” are actually drugs. They are Rx to cancer victims and people in other forms of terrible pain. Its the new drug of choice for people in the spot light. Looks like a sucker, its actually Fentanyl.
Fentanyl with an analgesic potency 10,000 times that of morphine, is used in veterinary practice to immobilize certain large animals. It is also used for stage 4 cancer victims.

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The Munchkins from The Wizard of Oz received a star on the Hollywood Boulevard Walk of Fame. The nation sighs, finally, in relief. Congratulations, Munchkins.

To celebrate the event, they brought out some Munchkins that are actually still alive. Some of them actually held lollipops or recited lines so other people could take a picture and make them feel weird. Good job, everybody.

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timberlake, yeah, lollipop stick in his mouth ;)

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