Cobain murdered by CIA

[hunkahunka]

The following video contains an impressive amount of information on the topic of satanic ritual abuse, the occult, and masonic connections.
(it starts out with the sense that one is just watching a tedious televangelist Sunday television show sermon, but is worth watching in its entirety, as the
scriptural references are contained only in the first ten minutes. The rest of the video contains solid factual information on this topic, ie: existing cases of SRA in modern America, information on the origins of the occult societies
in America, their founders, etc.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7198716510360758238&hl=en#

note the opening music is wonky but the rest of the video is clearly audible

[nihil]

hunka 'which video' hunka

:confused:

[hunkahunka]

Nihil, the video links are disappearing faster than ever now.
Before, the video links would last almost a couple of days
before mysteriously 'disappearing'. Now, they are gone
almost immediately. Here is a repeat of the original
post:

The following video contains an impressive amount of information on the topic of satanic ritual abuse, the occult, and masonic connections.
(it starts out with the sense that one is just watching a tedious televangelist Sunday television show sermon, but is worth watching in its entirety, as the
scriptural references are contained only in the first ten minutes. The rest of the video contains solid factual information on this topic, ie: existing cases of SRA in modern America, information on the origins of the occult societies
in America, their founders, etc.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7198716510360758238&hl=en#

note the opening music is wonky but the rest of the video is clearly audible

[stal]

hunka, and everyone else, thanks for keeping on with this thread.

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has anyone done any digging on this Yale murder?

http://gawker.com/5361611/cops-say-the-lab-technician-was-the-killer?skyline=true&s=x


http://gawker.com/5360694/lab-tech-freed-after-giving-dna-in-yale-murder-investigation


http://gawker.com/5360758/what-we-know-about-raymond-j-clark-iii

[hunkahunka]

another lost Kirkbride:

Utah State Hospital
aka Territorial Insane Asylum
Provo,Utah

Established: 1885. Historic main building demolished 1981
Architect: Richard Karl August Kletting

The following photo dates from 1896

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~asylums/utah_ut/utah_sm.jpg




lluminati Mormons - Satanic Ritual Abuse Coverup
by DEAD MAN MUSINGS

Illuminati Mormons - Satanic Ritual Abuse Coverup (July 21, 2009) In 1996, The State of Utah investigated hundreds of cases of Satanic Ritual abuse. The Glenn Pace memo (below) showed that the Satanic Luciferian Cult, known as the Illuminati had infiltrated the Mormon Church.

Posing as good members and leaders by day, at night, according to testimonials from numerous victims, they were involved in the most horrid and sadistic rituals known to man.

There is more than enough evidence to suggest that Utah politicians, media and law enforcement executed the biggest cover-up in the history of the state. Since that time, pressure has been exerted by the Illuminati-controlled Courts and media to prevent any accounts from making it into the public eye. With one exception...



"A Governor's Task Force on Ritual Abuse in Utah was created in March 1990 out of concerns raised by the Governor’s Commission on Women and Family and the state Task Force on Child Abuse. The task force concluded that ritual abuse was occurring in Utah as a significant problem and recommended that the legislature appropriate $250,000 to the Attorney General's office to hire four investigators for a year.

Some funds were appropriated, and two investigators were hired.

In late February 1995, the Utah Attorney General’s office closed a two-and-a-half-year investigation with two investigators of "over 125 cases of alleged ritual crime. In some cases, these investigations involved hundreds of hours of investigation and evaluation. In addition, the Unit investigators have met with hundreds of citizens who claim to be victims of satanic, religious, physical or sexually motivated ritual crimes….None of the allegations…. have resulted in’ prosecutions except for the case of the Zion Society in Ogden."3 The investigators used a broad definition of ritual ("any customarily repeated act or series of acts"), differentiated between ritualism and occultism, and described eleven different types of occult groups.4

Investigator Mike King told KUTV that he and another investigator talked to "hundreds" of victims who alleged they were raped, tortured, forced to perform horrible acts [,]…brainwashed, saw babies murdered or were forced to participate in ritual murders. ‘I really feel for these people and I would like to help them, but we just couldn’t find the evidence."’ Gerald Lazar, head of psychiatry at LDS Hospital, said "he has never been able to independently verify memories of satanic ritual abuse."

Indeed. Multiple personality syndrome is enough evidence in and of itself to show that the trauma was real. People don't disassociate when they have their teeth pulled or see a scary movie. The illuminati have focused on discrediting MPS as "False Memory Syndrome". The thought that false memories, suggested by a therapist, are enough to cause MPS is laughable. Again, the trauma has to be so severe, that a person disassociates. Car accidents don't cause MPS. nor do lost fortunes. To Understand how severe, read a former Cult Programmers story.



A jury, in a criminal trial, has to be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt, that a crime occurred. The presence of a dead body is not necessary to prosecute and convict Cult Members of other crimes. See Kiplyn Davis Case. Remember, the standard is not absolute proof, it is beyond a reasonable doubt.

In the Glenn Pace memo, one of the "General Authorities (Presiding Bishopric)" of the Mormon/LDS Church summarizes the results of his investigation.

"I have met with sixty victims. That number could be twice or three times as many if I did not discipline myself to only one meeting per week. I have not wanted my involvement with this issue to become a handicap in fulfilling my assigned responsibilities. On the other hand, I felt someone needed to pay the price to obtain an intellectual and spiritual conviction as to the seriousness of this problem within the Church.

"Of the sixty victims with whom I have met, fifty-three are female and seven are male. Eight are children. The abuse occurred in the following places: Utah (37), Idaho (3), California (4), Mexico (2), and other places (14). Fifty-three victims are currently living in the State of Utah. All sixty individuals are members of the Church. Forty-five victims allege witnessing and/or participating in human sacrifice. The majority were abused by relatives, often their parents. All have developed psychological problems and most have been diagnosed as having multiple personality disorder or some other form of dissociative disorder."....

"Ritualistic child abuse is the most hideous of all child abuse. The basic objective is premeditated—to systematically and methodically torture and terrorize children until they are forced to dissociate. The torture is not a consequence of the loss of temper, but the execution of well-planned, well-thought out rituals often performed by close relatives. The only escape for the children is to dissociate. They will develop a new personality to enable them to endure various forms of abuse. When the episode is over, the core personality is again in control and the individual is not conscious of what happened."

The memories seem to come in layers. For example, the first memory might be of incest, then they remember robes and candles; next they realize that their father or mother or both were present when they were being abused. Another layer will be the memory of seeing other people hurt and even killed. Then they remember having seen babies killed. Another layer is realizing that they participated in the sacrifices. One of the most painful memories may be that they even sacrificed their own baby. With each layer of memory comes another set of problems with which they must deal.

Now, although it is impossible to find a body to confirm that a "human sacrifice" took place. It would only require a simple medical examination to demonstrate sexual abuse. Rape leaves a person physically scarred. The LDS Church does not have the power to prosecute criminals. It can simply recommend the victim meet with law enforcement to prosecute the crime.

Law enforcements failure to prosecute a crime with physical evidence is a crime in and of itself. It is a conspiracy that would have to involve perpetrators, judges, psychiatrists, politicians, others in positions of influence, etc. The Illuminati are that conspiracy. "Silence of the Lambs" would be a fitting title.
And now for the disgusting media manipulation perpetrated by Joe Cannon's Deseret News and other Illuminati conspirators.

Anne Johnson was traumatized by her mother and father throughout her childhood

"When Anne A Johnson Davis was just three years old, her mother and stepfather began to physically, sexually and mentally abuse her—in the name of Satan. Until she ran away from home at 17, her parents and other cult members subjected her to satanic ritual abuse, a criminally inhumane and bizarre form of devil worship. In the middle of the night, Anne would be drugged and forced to endure hours of ritualistic torture as a symbolic sacrifice

Interestingly enough, she also secured signed confessions from the perpetrators. She, made the decision not the prosecute them.

One problem: It wasn't her decision. Her parents had committed crimes against the state and the State had the responsibility to prosecute with or without her consent. This is the law. The state had the evidence (the signed confessions) and should have gone forward with it. Instead, we end up with a story that seems to follow the Illuminati Formula for deception and intrigue.

No one doubts that this woman was not speaking the truth, but the outcome did nothing to protect the rest of us from the parents future crimes. Repentance includes facing Justice, not avoiding it through manipulating the victim.

The Deseret News, by focusing on this one story, forced any other victims into tragic box. Prosecute the perps and you are not being "Christlike". You should forgive and forget.

Glenn Pace explains the inner turmoil the victim feels by coming forward:

"Most victims are suicidal. They have been brainwashed with drugs, hypnosis, and other means to become suicidal as soon as they start to tell the secrets. They have been threatened all of their lives that if they don't do what they are told their brother or sister will die, their parents will die, their house will be burned, or they themselves will be killed. They have every reason to believe it since they have seen people killed. They believe they might as well kill themselves instead of wait for the occult to do it. Some personalities feel it is the right thing to do."

He also condemns what Joe Cannon's Deseret News clearly advocates in this story.

"Orthodox counsel is completely ineffective. For example, some victims have been told that this all happened in their past and that they should put it behind them and get on with their lives."

But this is exactly the path Joe Cannon's Deseret News advocates!

Can their be any doubt that Joe Cannon leads the Utah Illuminati agenda? Can there be any doubt that the Illuminati are involved is gross crimes against humanity in an attempt to gain power and influence?

Can There be any doubt that Joe Cannon is using his Church Membership as a "shield" against prosecution and exposure of his and the other conspirator's crimes?

You can help. Share this article with others. Remind them that they have the "God given" right to defend themselves, against the Utah Illuminati. Exposure and Prayer are the only way to exercise this cancer from our midst!

It has been my contention, and the contention of many others, that the glogal elite (in finance, entertainment, business, and politics) worship a religion that involves harnessing the forces of what they believe is both good and evil. They claim Lucifer as the "Angel of Light". A Promethius that was cast out by God and Jesus for sharing "Science and Philosophy" with man. He is represented by the "all-seeing eye" at the top of an unfinished pyramid.

The other being is Satan. Illuminists believe that they can subdue the powers of this being and use it to accumulate great wealth and eternal powers by submitting to its will. Thus we see that the Illuminati worship the rational mind and an alliance with evil to obtain rulership over this earth.

Although they exist at all levels of society. They are only 1-2% of the entire population and are heavily concentrated in positions of power. Their goal is one world dominion run by them and their ally Lucifer through appeasement of the forces of Satan. A Plato's Republic, as it were, with a smaller population (90% population reduction is their goal). Communism, as explained by Socrates, will be their Utopia. Their will be no family units and there will be no individual identity. Your daughters and wives (if they survive) are community property and will be violated as sex toys by anyone that has the powers to defile them.

They also know that no rational human being will commit murder or genocide if they are in their "right mind". Thus they use torture, human sacrifice and sexual abuse to create multiple personalities within the same individual. A person with multiple personality syndrome can be the well respected member of society during the day and a horrific monster by night. Like Jeckyll and Hyde, neither personality is aware of the other and must be "called up" by a controller that has the code of the mind slave.

In the end, their Utopia will be run by the 1% with the remaining population "programmed" as mind slaves to do their will. No matter how bizarre or self-destructive.

ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED
http://deadmanmusings.blogspot.com/

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~asylums/utah_ut/utah_lg.jpg
Territorial Insane Asylum, Provo, Utah, 1896

bullet 2005-FEB-24: USA: Mormon scholar dies; daughter writes book on ritual abuse: The New York Times reported that:

"Hugh W. Nibley, a Mormon religious scholar who was one of the most active and outspoken defenders of Mormon writings and teachings, died yesterday at his home in Provo, Utah. He was 94."

Martha Beck, alleged to be one of his daughters, has written a book titled ''Leaving the Saints: How I Lost the Mormons and Found My Faith.'' She has a doctorate from Harvard and writes a monthly column in "O" the Oprah Magazine. In her book, she criticizes the church for stifling dissent and independent thought among Mormon scholars through firing, excommunication or shunning. She also allegedly accuses her father of having sexually abused her during rituals while she was a child. She allegedly believes that she repressed the abuse memories and recovered them in 1990. She does not reveal her father's name in the book. She explained:

"I omitted names because this book is not about accusing anyone; it is about the terrible toll exacted on human lives when details of religious dogma are considered more important than an individual human being's sense of truth."

She experienced what she believes to have been a near-death experience while undergoing surgery when she believes that she encountered a "Being of Light". Her first memory of the alleged abuse surfaced two days later. She:

"...remembers being stretched out and legs spread like a frog on a dissecting table. 'My father is doing something that feels as though it's ripping me in two,' she writes in the book, recalling her father saying words like 'Father Abraham,' 'The Book of the Dead,' 'the prophet Joseph,' 'Amut the Destroyer,' 'the prophet Joseph Smith,' [and] 'Abrahamic sacrifice."

Her father was one of the church's leading authorities and chief defenders against intellectual attacks. He has published 15 books; five more are anticipated in the future. Dr. Nibley's remaining seven children have signed a statement condemning the book, saying that they were ''saddened by the book's countless errors, falsehoods, contradictions and gross distortions.'' The LDS Church also has denounced the book as "seriously flawed" in the way it depicts the church, its members and teachings. Spokesman Dale Bills said: "Fair-minded readers will find it at best unconvincing, at worst mean-spirited and at times absurd."

[hunkahunka]

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxhxXTHBOoM&feature=fvw

[soulja]

hunka, it's great to see you kept the thread up and going. I have a lot of reading up to do.

[hunkahunka]

hunka, it's great to see you kept the thread up and going. I have a lot of reading up to do.

its good to see you back, I hope you start adding to the thread again


video:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3395566/coast_to_coast_manson_and_mk_ultra/

[hunkahunka]

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P35maITNqc

Project MK-ULTRA, or MKULTRA, was the code name for a covert CIA mind-control and chemical interrogation research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence. The program began in the early 1950s, continuing at least through the late 1960s, and it used United States citizens as its test subjects. The published evidence indicates that Project MK-ULTRA involved the surreptitious use of many types of drugs, as well as other methods, to manipulate individual mental states and to alter brain function.

Project MK-ULTRA was first brought to wide public attention in 1975 by the U.S. Congress, through investigations by the Church Committee, and by a presidential commission known as the Rockefeller Commission. Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MK-ULTRA files destroyed in 1973; the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission investigations relied on the sworn testimony of direct participants and on the relatively small number of documents that survived Helms' destruction order.

Although the CIA insists that MK-ULTRA-type experiments have been abandoned, 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti has stated in various interviews that the CIA routinely conducts disinformation campaigns and that CIA mind control research continued. In a 1977 interview, Marchetti specifically called the CIA claim that MK-ULTRA was abandoned a "cover story."

On the Senate floor in 1977, Senator Ted Kennedy said:

"The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens "at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign." Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to 'unwitting subjects in social situations.' At least one death, that of Dr. Olson, resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers."

Project ARTICHOKE was a CIA project that researched interrogation methods and arose from Project BLUEBIRD on August 20, 1951, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence. A memorandum by Richard Helms to CIA director Allen Welsh Dulles indicated Artichoke became Project MKULTRA on April 13, 1953.

The project studied hypnosis, forced morphine addiction (and subsequent forced withdrawal), and the use of other chemicals, among other methods, to produce amnesia and other vulnerable states in subjects.

Artichoke was an offensive program of mind control that gathered together the intelligence divisions of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and FBI. In addition, the scope of the project was outlined in a memo dated January 1952 that stated, "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?"

Operation LAC (Large Area Coverage), was a U.S. Army Chemical Corps operation which dispersed microscopic zinc cadmium sulfide (ZnCdS) particles over much of the United States. The purpose was to determine the dispersion and geographic range of biological or chemical agents.

[hunkahunka]

quote:

http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/mcmartin-preschool-case-what-really-happened-and-the-coverup/


McMartin Preschool Case – What Really Happened and the Coverup


Welcome to Manhattan Beach

Paul Bynum graduated from college in 1972 and joined the Hermosa Beach police department a year later. At 31 he was promoted to the rank of chief detective. Bynum was not a traditional investigator. One fellow detective often thought he was “too bright to be a cop.” Off duty, he drove an MG and mixed with the ’60s survivors at the Sweetwater Café.

In 1976 Bynum was assigned the investigation of the Karen Klaas murder. Klaas was the divorced wife of Bill Medley, a vocalist for the Righteous Brothers. She was raped and murdered one morning about an hour after dropping her five-year-old son off at the McMartin preschool in Manhattan Beach.

Neighbors told police they’d been alarmed at the sight of a menacing stranger before the murder wandering through the neighborhood. Police later entertained speculation that Klaas had been stalked. Throughout the week her body was found, this same stranger had popped up several times on her corner. A neighbor phoned Karen to warn her. She didn’t answer. When friends entered the back door of the house, concerned for her safety, they found a Caucasian male with a beard, about 5′7″, 28 years old, dressed in a long olive green coat with a tunic collar and boots. He was leaving through the front door. Klaas was found naked and unconscious. She died five days later. Nothing was stolen. Police had no indication that Klaas knew the man who assaulted her.

In 1984, shortly after indictments were handed to defendants in the McMartin child molestation case, Gerald Klaas, her husband, drove off a cliff in Oregon and was killed. Children alleged in a grand jury hearing that teachers at the preschool had threatened to kill family members if they talked about abuse, It was rumored around town that the Klaas deaths and the McMartin case may have been related. But police said no. “We have no leads, no suspects and we’re not coordinating with Manhattan Beach,” Hermosa Beach Lt. Mike Lavin told reporters.1

In 1979, Paul Bynum was forced out of the police department without an explanation despite an unblemished record. After Bynum had wrapped up an investigation of a series of murders of teenage girls in nearby Redondo Beach, culminating in the arrest and conviction of serial killers Roy Norris and Lawrence Bittaker, police chief Frank Beeson pressured Bynum to take a stress leave. Bynum was haunted by the serial murder investigation, but remained confident in his emotional stability. He refused the leave. The chief obtained an order from the city manager, and Bynum was forced out on an indefinite disability leave. He chalked it up to internal politics, “paranoia.” “When the papers reported that Beeson had shown up apparently drunk at his first Hermosa council meeting and dropped his revolver on the floor,” Bynum told reporter Kevin Cody, “he thought we had tipped reporters.” Beeson was unaware that reporters routinely attended meetings of the city council.2

Bynum set out on a new career as a private investigator. In March 1984, he was retained by the Buckeys’ defense attorney, Danny Davis, and in the course of his investigation came to the conclusion that children had been abused at the preschool. He found the video-taped interviews of the children by child therapists “credible.” One afternoon, Cody informed Bynum that hundreds of children had alleged molestation took place at the preschool. Bynum was shocked. He stammered he had no idea so many children were involved.

In 1986 he was called to testify at the trial of Ray Buckey by prosecutor Lael Rubin. The morning he was to appear a juror’s home was burglarized and Bynum’s testimony was rescheduled for the next morning. “Neither side is going to like what I have to say,” he told Cody. For one thing, there was the matter of Bynum’s lost citation books, records he’d kept while a detective in Hermosa Beach. When the police arrested Ray Buckey on molestation charges, the “lost” books were discovered on the preschool attendant’s desk. What were official police records doing in Buckey’s home? And Prosecutor Rubin had intended to ask Bynum about a map turned up by DA investigators in March 1986, pin-pointing the location of turtle shells Bynum had unearthed at the lot next to the McMartin preschool. (The children claimed teachers had killed turtles to demonstrate what would happen to them and their families if they talked about the molestations. Bynum, while retained by the defense, had managed to corroborate a key point in the testimony of the children.)

Bynum’s court appearance was preempted by “suicide,” although the timing left some parents in the case convinced he’d been murdered.3 His body was discovered by his wife at 5:45 in the morning. He died of a head shot from a .38 caliber pistol. “None of the half dozen people questioned who were close to Bynum could think of any reason why his involvement in the case might have driven him to suicide,” reported the Easy Reader in Manhattan Beach. “Paul was kind of a worrier,” said Stephen Kay, a deputy district attorney and friend of the Bynum family, “but there was no hint of suicide. He was very upbeat about his wife and new daughter, both of whom he adored.”4

The belief that Bynum had been murdered was fueled by the memory of another odd death, the alcohol toxicity that claimed the life of Judy Johnson. She was the first mother to speak publicly about child molestation at McMartin. and sympathizers of the Buckeys in the press have gone to great lengths to portray Johnson as “crazy.” Her life was inverted the day her son came home from the McMartin school, bleeding. Strangers entered her life, intimidated her. She believed she’d been poisoned. (In 1992, therapists at the L.A. Commission for Women’s Ritual Abuse Task Force were also poisoned, and corroborated their allegations with medical reports – the Los Angeles Times was given the reports, but ignored them and alleged the therapists were paranoid fantasists.5) She lived in fear, felt it necessary to keep a gun in the house. Her estranged husband appeared to have joined in the harassment campaign. She took to alcohol. She was allergic to alcohol. It poisoned her.

The death of Judy Johnson was met with howls of laughter in greater Los Angeles. She will be remembered as the delusional paranoiac who set in motion a wave of “hysteria” carried through Southern California by a sensational press and out across the plains, contaminating lives and decimating families everywhere. A groundless witch-hunt. This was the explanation doled out by “experts” from leading universities. Nevertheless, children who attended the preschool still insist they were abused. And the detailed memories of their parents are sharply at odds with the simple caricature of the case repeated endlessly in the press. They recall not suggestive questioning, but the long hours of testimony by dozens of children, the telephoned death threats, how some of the children suffered deep emotional problems requiring hospitalization. Knowing child pornography to be a highly lucrative business, they frown at the snickering over the childrens’ disclosures that they were forced to play “naked movie-star” games. They haven’t put aside as anomalous accident the first exhibit in the case, a physician’s report that one of the children suffered “blunt force trauma” of sexual areas.6 The parents were left to ponder why some of the toddlers in the care of the McMartins had chlamydia, a sexually-transmitted infection.7 Where was the humor in all of this?

Open Season

The parents wondered, like everyone else, at the incredibility of the charges – some said the children were lying – yet they had to question Peggy McMartin’s testimony that she only worked at the school for a short time, when payroll records showed that she had been employed there for years. To the families, the final verdict of Ray Buckey meant it was now “open season on children.”

The world was told redundantly that ABC’s Wayne Satz, the reporter who broke the case (killed by a heart attack in December, 1992 at age 47), and Kee MacFarlane, a therapist testifying for the prosecution, had an affair, as if this had any bearing on the allegations of the children. Even Oliver Stone, perhaps in ignorance, took to the bandwagon with a film made for HBO, written by Abby Mann, theorizing that hysteria in Manhattan Beach was kindled when one child returned home from school one afternoon with “a red bottom” – this would be the son of Judy Johnson, and he hadn’t been spanked – he was bleeding from the anus.

This hardly constitutes media “spin.” It is conscious participation in a felony. The account of the case pounded into collective memory by media repetition goes that far to distort the facts. The widespread media coverage was, according to Los Angeles Times editor Noel Greenwood, “a mean-spirited campaign” organized to discredit the children and their therapists.8 But why should certain members of the corporate press, and segments of the legal and psychiatric professions, go to such lengths to suppress evidence of organized child abuse at McMartin?

The traumatic crimes reported by the toddlers bear an uncanny resemblance to mind control programming, a specialty of certain classified federal agencies and cult cut-outs on the black budget payroll.8 The children are often ridiculed because some of their charges are impossible. Tunnels under the preschool? Too ludicrous to consider. But as it happens, there were tunnels, confirmed in 1993 by a team of five scientists from leading universities.

The unearthing of the tunnels, like much of the critical evidence, never made it to the courtroom. They have been discreetly excluded from newspaper accounts. Filling the void, Debbie Nathan, a widely published skeptic of ritual abuse, heaped ridicule on the tunnel allegations in the Village Voice in June 1990. She maintained the McMartin site had already been “painstakingly probed for tunnels. None were found”9 Nathan’s account is a fabrication. In fact, recalls Dr. Roland Summit, who contributed to the final report on the tunnel excavation, parents started digging and prosecutors, reluctantly forced to a showdown, “commissioned a superficial search of open terrain.” District Attorney Ira Reiner then declared the tunnel stories unfounded “without going under the concrete floor of the preschool.”Once the tunnels were officially discounted, attempts to explore for an underground reality were instant targets for ridicule.”10 Archeologist Gary Stickel was retained to lead the excavation on the re-commendation of Dr. Rainier Berger, chairman of UCLA’s Interdisciplinary Archeology Program, by parents of McMartin children.11 Initially Stickel sided with the Buckeys, believing the abuse allegations to be so much moonlight for hysterics. However, he’d heard of late homicide detective Paul Bynum, the first to dig at the site: Bynum apparently conducted his informal digging in February, 1984 (Daily Breeze, 1987). It is significant to note he did unearth some buried animal remains, “numerous pieces of tortoise shells and bones” (Daily Breeze, 1987). “There was keen interest at the time since it was reported that the children testified that tortoises, rabbits, and other small animals were mutilated to terrorize the children into keeping silent” (Daily Breeze, 1987).12

But “experts” courted by the press snaffled at the suggestion that animals were killed to frighten children at McMartin and other preschools around the country. It was not until 1993 that a study by the National Center for Child Abuse and Neglect confirmed that children are not only threatened in day care settings, “most threats are very specific in terms of what the consequence of disclosure will be and how the threat will be carried out…. The use of such severe threats is obviously quite frightening to young children and is effective in preventing disclosure. In fact, it appears that threats used in day care center cases may go beyond what is usually needed to silence victims, and may in some instances be made for purposes of psychological terror in and of itself.”13

Into the Grotto

Most reporters in Southern California pooh-poohed evidence of coercion, but there was a great, gaping silence when the tunnels were found. “I asked my daughter,” recalls Jackie MacGauley, a mother of two children who attended the preschool, “‘How could they have taken you to these places without being seen?’ And she answered me as though I was silly to ask such a question. She said, ‘Through the tunnels, of course.’”

The Los Angeles Times ran a spate of features poking fun of the excavation team until actual evidence of tunnels was discovered. Then the Times ran a brief news item, one paragraph long, dryly noting that “evidence” of tunnels had been found, and never mentioned the subject again. The local Beach Reporter covered the story without a blush: “parents began to dig with shovels, allegedly in an area pointed out by a nine-year-old former student of the McMartin preschool, who told them to dig behind a cement planter in the northeast corner. When parents unearthed several broken turtle shells and a few bones, they stopped digging and notified the district attorney’s office.”

Once the entrance was exposed, Stickel used remote sensing equipment to read the terrain conductivity of the empty lot next to the preschool. The survey was conducted by a respected geophysicist, Robert Beer, working with an electromagnetic scanner. The tunnel opening was found precisely where children said it would be. Stickel: “Some of the children had stated there had been animal cages placed along that wall and that they had entered a tunnel under the cages.” A foreign soil deposit was found near the foundation. Clearing the anomaly with a backhoe, they found the roots of an avocado tree cut to clear a path for the tunnel. The roots had been cut with a hand saw and torn away, and shreds dangled on either wall of the tunnel.

That’s the moment editors at the Times chose to pull reporters off the story. All other news outlets rapidly followed suit. But the excavators cleared the foreign soil and followed the tunnel anyway. It “meandered under Classroom No. 4 and then most of Classroom No. 3…. There is no other scenario that fits all of the facts except that the feature was indeed a tunnel,” they concluded. “The date of the construction and use of the tunnel was not absolutely established, but an assessment of seven factors of data all indicate that it was probably constructed, used and completely filled back in sometime after 1966 (the construction date of the preschool).”14

Dr. E. Michael, a specialist in forensic geology in Malibu, was called to examine a cavity in the underground passage. Together with Dr. Herbert Adams of the geology department at Cal State University, a ground resistivity reading of the tunnel was followed from the preschool to a triplex next door, a traversing section parallel to the north wall of the school, 5 feet away, extending 20 feet eastward, 10 to 15 feet beneath the surface.15

Gerald Hobbs, a local tree surgeon for 25 years, did much of the actual digging. Hobbs: The children had told two different stories about this tunnel prior to the dig. One, that they had gone through the tunnel and came up in the house next door, and two, they had come up in the garage, which blocked the house from the street. At any rate, the tunnel went in that direction…. That evening I went to the house next door and followed the walk between the school and the house, only about 41/2 feet apart. I went about 30 feet down between the buildings and found a crawl space under the house. I bellied my way toward the southwest corner of the house. After going about 20 feet, I found an area inside the west wall of the house where the floor was cut out. If I remember correctly, the area of floor that was missing was 36″ X 38″ X 41″.16

A total of 77 animal bones were found buried at the McMartin site, an assortment of the osteo-remains of domestic cattle, chickens, dogs and a single rabbit.17 However, Debbie Nathan, the hide-bound “skeptic” of ritual abuse, a scion of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, told another story. The McMartin site, she insisted, had already been “painstakingly probed for tunnels” by the D.A.’s office. (Not so, as we’ve seen). “None were found. [The McMartin] parents have invested years believing in demonic conspiracies and underground nursery tunnels. (Until recently the parents were still digging. They came up with Indian artifacts).” No mention of Bynum’s independent findings. No mention of the dig as it happened in the real world. She reserves much of her scorn for former FBI agent Ted Gunderson and Jackie MacGauley. Nathan seems not to realize that Gunderson and MacGauley brought in Stickel and his geological team to defuse accusations they were directly engaged in the dig. They weren’t. The search for the tunnels was independent, and scores of volunteers pitched in.

Nathan’s refrain of “no evidence” is hollow. She has been known to contort around the facts of ritual abuse in a grotesque parody of journalism and is frequently blind to critical evidence. Nathan continues to find “no evidence” of abuse at McMartin despite the nightmares, the acting-out, medical molestation reports and sexual infections. The tunnel excavation, she assures with psychic certainty (and a sniff of condescension), is a “hoax.”

To come to the point: Nathan’s propaganda, repeated in the New York Times and a host of other corporate publications, happened to conceal a classified mind control operation the CIA and Pentagon had undertaken thirty years before….

End of Part One

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Ray Buckey’s Press Corps and the Tunnels of McMartin –

From: Psychic Dictatorship in the USA, Alex Constantine (Feral House, 1995).

A fusillade of press reports, OpEd Columns and television documentaries have dismissed the McMartin case as a “witch hunt” born of mass hysteria, coercive therapy, false memories and greed. Yet all seven jurors attending a press conference after the second trial raised heir hands when asked who among them believed children had been abused at the preschool. So why the call to public denial from the press?

After the initial flurry of press coverage of the McMartin Preschool molestation case, a number of sympathetic reporters and psychiatrists publicly exonerated Ray Buckey and his co-defendants. This observer’s gallery of “skeptics” also deny that ritual abuse is a social problem. The argument consistently leads to the lament that the McMartin allegations were incited by mass hysteria, an ambitious district attorney and an incompetent child therapist. The hysteria thesis, promoted by a small group of pedophile defense psychologists, mostly, has appeared in publications of stature including the Los Angeles Times, San Francisco Chronicle, Wall Street Journal, Village Voice, Harper’s, New Yorker, Newsweek,. The McMartin case was the subject of an Oliver Stone cable feature.

Media boosters of the defense neglect to acknowledge the most damning evidence in the McMartin case. Instead, they explain away superficial, carefully-sifted pieces of the case. In preparation for the trial, 389 toddlers were interviewed – nearly all of them described abuse at the preschool, and do to this day. Some 80 percent had physical symptoms, including blunt force trauma of sexual areas, scarring, rectal bleeding and sexual diseases. Interestingly enough, skeptics of ritual abuse in the public print often have dubious bona fides themselves. Some even participate secretly in the pedophile and occult undergrounds, most notably a couple of Los Angeles writers who have written the only two book available on McMartin, taking mental health professionals, police, the press and prosecutors to task for pursuing false allegations of abuse.

The Politics of Child Abuse, by Paul and Shirley Eberle, purports to be something of a definitive investigation. A blurb for the book exults: “This has got to be one of the most devastating political detective stories of all time. The authors smashed open the child abuse witch-hunt so everyone can see it for what it is – the way it really happened, and why. Here is the amazing story, starting with the first spectacular accusations, the marathon pre-trial hearing, the endless series of false accusations.” Since the Eberles’ first McMartin book appeared in 19896, the Eberles have achieved national status as child abuse experts. In courts of law their work is frequently cited, and they lecture widely to receptive audiences.

The Eberles once appeared as featured speakers at a conference held by Victims of Child Abuse Laws (VOCAL), an organization that feted The politics of child Abuse as positively revelatory. But Paul and shirley Eberle can hardly be considered credible reporters. Blurbs in their own pornographic tabloid, L.A. Star, failed to mention that in the 1970s the authors once ran an underground tabloid for pedophiles in Los Angeles, Finger, which delved heavily into sadomasochistic sex, sex with children and sex acts involving human excrement. Finger contained sexual drawings by children and pedophile erotica, including “My First Rape,” “She was Only Thirteen,” “Sexpot at Five,” and “What Happens when Niggers Adopt White Children.” One issue featured a cover photo of two naked adults reclining amid a pile of inflated dolls. A letter to Finger declaimed: “I’m a pedophile and I think it’s great a man is having sex with his daughter…. Would like to see pics of nude girls making it with their daddy, but realize its too risky to print.”

The book’s publisher, Carole Stuart of Lyle Stuart & Co., told Ms. magazine that the Eberles have been “friends of the family for years.” In The Politics of Child Abuse, the Eberles claimed that since the McMartin arrests, “we have been barraged with hundreds of sexual abuse cases, in which many people have been sent to prison for staggeringly long terms on little or no evidence.” That the Eberles themselves remain at large would seem to contradict the notion that child abuse laws are stringently over-enforced. The Eberles attempt to portray every abuser as a victim of the justice system: We believe that every molestation case in which there has been a conviction should be reopened and reviewed. There is convincing evidence that innocent people have been imprisoned, that naive juries and judges were unable to believe the defendants would be brought to trial if no crime had occurred, and defense attorneys have not been allowed to bring all the pertinent facts before the public.

Los Angeles attorney Sally Dichter, in a book review, argued that the Eberles have “nothing to offer to any discipline.” The book she lamented, “is an attempt to vindicate every individual who has been convicted of child abuse.” Considering their credentials as child pornographers, of course the Eberles, as Dichter discovered, believe “every molestation case in which there has been a conviction should be reopened and reviewed.” Dichter found this point of view unbelievable: “The Eberles seem intent on convincing the reader that child abuse never occurs.” The authors “skepticism” of ritual child abuse is shared by Gerald Larue, professor emeritus of Biblical history and archeology at the University of Southern California. Larue is one of the principals behind the Noah’s Ark hoax, which culminated in February 1993 with a two-hour CBS prime-time special, “The Incredible Discovery of Noah’s Ark, billed by CBS as a documentary. Scholars immediately denounced it. The network refused to retract.

Satanism in America, a book that Larue co-wrote, attributed the McMartin case to a “satanic panic” incited by wild-eyed “religious fanatics, opportunists and emotionally unstable survivors whose stories simply are not to be believed” —- an agonizing irony given Larue’s instigation of the Noah’s Ark hoax. He argues that the “child abuse hysteria sweeping the country us being fueled by people for whom facts have no meaning. They invent ‘facts.’”

Langley Connections and the Rise of the Child Abuse Backlash

Another “expert” who has dismissed McMartin as a classic witch-hunt is Dr. Douglas Besherov, once the director of the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect. He is also a directory of the rabidly right-wing American Enterprise Institute, a Washington D.C. think tank To supplement his weighty credentials, Besherov writes for academic social and political quarterlies with long histories of collaborating with the CIA for propaganda purposes. He is a coeval of Irving Kristol, a veteran CIA psychological warfare specialist. In 1976, the Congressional Church committee hearings revealed that the CIA is deeply entrenched in the American press. Some 400 journalists, it emerged at the hearings, had collaborated with the Agency at least once. CIA propagandists like Besherov and Kristol provide others in the field with a scholastic support base, and mold opinion on campus. with such CIA-anchored academic journals as Encounter and The Public Interest, both edited by neo-con Kristol. In 1986, Public Interest published a monograph by Dr. Besherov entitled “Unfounded Allegations – A New Child Abuse Problem.” Besherov opens with the observation of legal scholar Sanford Katz that “the maltreatment of children is as old as recorded history. Infanticide, ritual sacrifice, exposure, mutilation, abandonment, brutal discipline and the near slavery of child labor have existed in all cultures.”

Dr. Besherov, left dry-eyed by such conditions, blamed the media and mandatory reporting laws for dragging child abuse out of the closet (where he seems to prefer it) and blowing the severity of the problem out of proportion. Besherov’s influential follow-up article, “Doing Something About Child Abuse: The Need to Narrow the Grounds for State Intervention,” was published in 1985 by Irving Kristol and the American Enterprise Institute. In it, Besherov argues that most allegations of child abuse are statistically unfounded. His slipshod use of statistics drove the Child Welfare League of America (CWLA) to publicly find him responsible for leading the public “to believe that child abuse is leveling off or that, as reports increase, the level of substantiation decreases.” The CWLA notes that its survey results indicate a “substantial increase in reports,” and “a stable rate of confirmation,” directly contradicting Besherov’s statistical red herring. Turning to the children removed from their homes by social workers, Besherov states flatly: “According to data collected by the federal government, it appears that up to half of these children were in no immediate danger at home and could have been safely left there.”

The government “data” cited by Besherov derives from a study conducted by the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect. The authors of the study told New York Times reporter David Hechler that “the information is not there” to support Besherov’s assertion that half of all abused children left in the custody of their parents are in “no immediate danger.” “He has used our statistics in this case to prove a point when (he) simply can’t do it,” a Center researcher told Hechler. When asked for his response, the AEI scholar refused to comment. By fabricating statistics, Besherov reveals himself to be a propagandist. Have unfounded allegations led to a national McCarthyite frenzy, as Besherov contends? “I’m sure there are false allegations,,” concedes David Finkelhor, a sociologist specializing in child abuse. “I’m sure when people are caught up in false allegations it’s terrible.” But in criminal cases of all kinds, “there’s always the possibility of false allegations, and I don’t think they’re more severe in the area of child abuse that they are in — I want to say something innocuous – people making false allegations about having had money stolen from them, or false allegations of embezzlement.” Besherov’s work has given rise to such hysteria-producing diatribes as “False Accusations of Child Abuse: Could it Happen to You.” (Women’s Day, July 8, 1986), and “Invasion of the Child Savers: No One is Safe in the War Against Abuse” (Progressive, September, 1985) – both are adventures in hyperbole, like Besherov’s cooked statistics.

“Family abuse,” by A.C. Carlson, another protégé of Irving Kristol. appeared in Reason magazine, a publication that has frequently runs CIA disinformation. Hechler writes that Carlson has gone “even further than Besherov, inflating the unfounded rate beyond belief.” Erroneously, in fact, Carlson laments that “the victims pile up,” like corpses in a pile, and commiserates needlessly with “the sky-rocketing number of parents and teachers falsely accused of child abuse.”

Ritual abuse “skeptics” with CIA connections are covering up the latest phase in Agency-sponsored mind control experimentation. For thirty years Agency scientists have collaborated with cults (many of them founded by the government) to conceal the development of mind control technology. Jim Jones and the People’s Temple was one product of the alliance. McMartin was another. Both episodes have been buried in disinformation. The campaign to mislead the public about ritual abuse is ambitious, rivaling the campaign to conceal the facts in the murder of John F. Kennedy. The smokescreen is also explained in part by reports implicating the CIA in child prostitution for the purposes of political blackmail – a variation on the age-old sex trap. CIA agents have been directly involved in organized child sex rings. In Enslaved (1991), an investigation of the worldwide slavery underground, Gordon Thomas found Agency participation in the kidnap of Latin American children “flown across the border in light aircraft, and sold to child sex rings, or sold so their organs could be used in transplants.” Some of the pilots, Thomas discovered, “made two or three flights a day. The more experienced used Beech 18s because of the aircraft’s capacity and maneuverability. The majority of the fliers were mercenaries who had flown for the CIA.”

Ray Buckey’s father, Charles, worked for Hughes Aircraft. There is an old adage that holds “Hughes is the CIA.” Charles Buckey built the McMartin Preschool. According to carbon dating readings, the tunnels unearthed beneath the preschool were dug in 1968 – the year the school was built. Buckey Sr. testified on the stand that there were no tunnels. The media has been completely silent on this score, which brings us to…

The Tunnel Cover-Up

El Paso reporter Debbie Nathan, utterly convinced of the defendants’ innocence, entered the fray in The Village Voice, and has appeared in newspapers across the country, including The L.A. Weekly, Sacramento Bee, San Francisco Chronicle, and elsewhere. She has been honored with the Free Press Association’s H. L. Mencken Award, and Northwestern University’s Medill School of Journalism prize. She is a leading proponent of the “mass hysteria” thesis, the notion that many child abuse allegations are “unfounded.” Her cavalier dismissal is not supported by objective research. Dr. David Chadwick of San Diego’s childrens’ Hospital, in the Journal of the American Medical Association (May 26, 1989), contends that 8 percent of all abuse allegations are unfounded, at most, and are “rather easily distinguishable in a careful review.”

At times it is difficult to tell whether Nathan is a “skeptic” or an apologist of sexual abuse. “Most pedophilia,” she contends, “consists of caressing and fondling. for most children, these experiences appear to be at best confusing, at worst traumatic. But others seem to willingly participate, and some adults recall that while still legally minors they accepted, even welcomed, sex with grown-ups.” Nathan doesn’t condemn the abuser. After all, “compared to the abuses of a child protection movement gone mad, could incest be any worse?”

Alex Cockburn is a Nathan supporter, and has on occasion gotten caught up in her pro-pedophilic obfuscations, as in this diatribe from The Nation for March 8, 1993: As a Miami-based anthropologist, Rafael Martinez, consultant to the Dade County Medical Examiner’s Office, told Nathan, in traditional Latin American cultures “kissing and hugging is common with children up to three or four years old. It is common for females to kiss children all over the place – including on the genitals.

The practice of kissing children on the genitals may be traditional in some cultures, but it is frowned upon by the Manhattan Beach preschool licensing board. Alex Cockburn’s skepticism toward ritual abuse was summed up in an editorial appearing in the February 8, 1990 Wall Street Journal, “The McMartin Case: Indict the Children, Jail the Parents.” The son of a British spy, and a loquacious defender of the Warren Commission, Cockburn has such strong feelings about the McMartin case that he once publicly maligned an editor of the L.A. Weekly for refusing to print a recommendation that “the tots bearing false witness in the McMartin preschool case be jailed for perjury.”

His primary source on the subject of child abuse, Debbie Nathan, is herself something of a false witness. In ‘What McMartin Started: The Ritual Abuse Hoax” (Village Voice, June 12, 1990), Ms. Nathan moaned that “children at McMartin told of being molested in tunnels under the school. None were ever found, but until recently parents were still digging.” In fact, 30 days before Nathan’s article appeared, the tunnels were discovered beneath the preschool by scientists hired by the parents, confirming the testimony of the children. The project employed a team of archeologists from local universities, two geologists, a professional excavator, a carbon-dating specialist and a professional photographer to document the dig’s progress and findings. The longest tunnel was six feet beneath the preschool, running eastward 45 feet from the southwest wall, and ten feet along the north wall. The tunnel walls were held in place by support beams and a roof of plywood and tarpaper. A branch of the tunnel led to a nine-foot chamber (the “secret room” described by the children?). Another extended from the preschool to the triplex next door, surfacing beneath a roll-away bathtub. Forensic tests on thousands of objects found at the site – including two hundred animal bones – were conducted.

Until the tunnels were found, the L.A. Times covered the dig – with a smirk. The parents and scientists involved were portrayed as crack-pots – until the existence of the tunnels were substantiated by experts, at which time the newspaper abruptly stopped reporting the story. the public was left with the false impression that the search had failed. Critics of the excavation pointed out that District Attorney Ira Reiner had already searched for tunnels. At best, this is a half-truth. Reiner’s team tore up a bit of floor tile, but did not even bother to remove the glue that held it in place. The D.A.’s team, as it happens, dug up the lot next to the preschool, not underneath. “Actually,” McMartin mother Jackie MacGauley, who supervised the excavation, notes, “we were the first to dig on the property.” The search for the tunnels was undertaken with ground-penetrating radar to probe for inconsistencies in the soil. A bell-shaped area of disturbed earth was discovered along the foundation of the west wall. The tunnels beneath the opposite wall was unearthed (precisely where the children said it would be found all along) beneath the foundation. A [passage had been knocked through the concrete. "It was interesting," MacGauley told L.A.'s Pacifica Radio, "because a lot of the child development specialists, psychiatrists and therapists across the country thought that it was some psychological phenomenon that the kids would talk about tunnels. Somehow that idea got 'planted,' and they had all these theories as to why all the kids would talk about something like this. It obviously couldn't be true. And the district attorney at the time just flatly did not believe it, and really didn't want to look." Neither did the press.

A Cottage Industry of Child Abuse Debunkers

"MODERN WITCH-HUNT - CHILD ABUSE CHARGES" bawled a Wall Street Journal editorial for February 22, 1993. But the tone of the column was dry and high-toned. Dr. Richard Gardner, professor of clinical psychiatry at Columbia University, cautioned that "a great wave of hysteria" had gripped the country. In the early 90s, the mass hysteria premise was touted by big city newspapers and magazines of elite stature, all attempting to persuade - with evident bias and inflated "expert" opinion - that false child abuse charges were endemic. This school of disinformation coaxed public opinion with dire exhortations of a child abuse witch-hunt. In his Wall Street Journal comments, Dr. Gardner warned that a great wave of hysteria, "by far the worst" in history, the most devastating "with regard to the number of lives that have been destroyed and families that have been disintegrated."

Gardner's basic argument is that allegations of child abuse are often fabricated by parents embroiled in custody disputes - another explanation not supported by statistics, the ones Gardner ignores. One study found that a mere two percent of all abuse accusations stem from visitation and custody disputes. Other researchers have placed the percentage slightly higher.) As for "mass hysteria," one of the earliest promoters of this thesis was Ralph Underwager, co-author with his wife, Hollida Wakefield, of Accusations of Child Sexual Abuse. "Few physicians will wish to invest the time and money ($70) to own or even read this book," complained a reviewer for the Journal of the American Medical Association. "It is of little value to those who work with abused children except as it may be important to be aware of all points of view. The book will be doubtless be useful to attorneys defending persons accused of sexual abuse of children. It appears to have been written particularly for that audience.... The authors cite over 700 references, but they do not really review this body of literature. When a given reference fails to support their viewpoint, they simply misstate the conclusion."

Since 1974, Dr. Underwager has been the director of the Institute for Psychological Therapies in Northfield, Minnesota. He has since been frequently called upon to provide expert testimony - in the late '80s he spent 60-70 percent of his professional life shuttling between courtrooms. He is the author of numerous articles debunking the credibility of ritual abuse victims. Dr. Underwager has frequently been cited by Debbie Nathan as a leading authority on the subject. Lisa Manshel, author of Nap Time, an account of the New Jersey ritual abuse case, found that "child sexual abuse was not his field of knowledge," but "it was his field of courtroom practice. He proliferated the opinion, 'No one knows how to tell accurately whether a child's been abused' throughout the nation's courts." He has testified in most states, and by satellite in foreign countries, before at least 200 juries." Dr. Underwager once stated on the stand that he considered it "more desirable that a thousand children in abuse situations are not discovered than for one innocent person to be convicted wrongly." Dr. Underwager, a founder of the False Memory Syndrome foundation, is an ordained Lutheran minister. He believes, he once said in an interview appearing in an Amsterdam journal for pedophiles, , that sex with children is not only acceptable, but "God's will."

Q: Is choosing pedophilia for you a responsible choice for the individual?

Underwager: Certainly it is responsible. What I have been struck by as I have come to know more about and understand people who choose pedophilia is that they let themselves be too much defined by other people. That is usually an essential negative definition. Pedophiles spend a lot of time and energy defending their choice. I don't think a pedophile needs to do that.

Underwager insisted that pedophiles "should attack the concept, the image, the picture of the pedophile as an evil, wicked and reprehensible exploiter of children." Following the interview, Underwager was forced to resign as a founding member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (which is largely directed by CIA psychiatrists with backgrounds in mind control experimentation) The London Observer for December 12, 1993 reported that Dr. Underwager denied ever condoning sex with children. He added, however, that "scientific evidence" had demonstrated that "60 percent of women sexually abused as children reported that the experience was good for them. He contended the same could be true for boys involved with pedophiles..

The Descent of Mann

In a five-part series that appeared after the hung jury verdict of Ray Buckey's first trial, Los Angeles Times reporter David Shaw found that the newspaper's research files explained little of "the crucial behind-the-scenes role played by screenwriter Abby Mann." Mann's writing staff and circle of disinformationists have shaped public opinion on the McMartin case. Noel Greenwood, an L.A. Times editor, has described the wall of pro-Buckey PR thrown up by Mann and friends as "a mean, malevolent campaign conducted by people ... whose motives are highly suspect and who have behaved in a basically dishonest ... and dishonorable way." Abby Mann, an Oscar recipient for a film about the Nazi war crimes trial, Judgment at Nuremburg (an oxymoron, since there was precious little justice at Nuremburg, a carefully-managed show trial that culminated with the execution of a small clutch of Nazis, minor prison terms for some - and recruitment of thousands of others by the CIA.) From the beginning, Mann was a vociferous advocate of the McMartin defendants. "We like to think we are different from Salem," Mann sniffed at the resolution of Ray Buckey's first trial. "I don't believe that anything happened at that school."

Abby Mann has worked diligently, largely back-stage, on behalf of Buckeys. It was Mann who first interested Sixty Minutes in the McMartin case. The November 2, 1986 broadcast was decidedly biased in favor of Ray Buckey. Defense attorney Danny Davis characterized the segment as "wholly sympathetic to the defense point of view." Sixty Minutes led off with the camera panning a long couch and five of the original defendants. Mike Wallace asked: "Do these women look like child molesters?"

New York Times reporter David Hechler noted "gaping holes in the story. Why were no police or D.A.'s investigators interviewed or even mentioned? And if Ira Reiner believed the case was so weak against the five defendants, why did he wait until the five-month preliminary hearing was completed before dropping the charges? These questions were never asked." The innocence of the defendants was assumed by Wallace and crew as a foregone conclusion, and the charges against them were framed as the aberrations of nattering lunatics. Most of the Sixty Minutes segment on McMartin was taped in Abby Mann's living room. But heavily-biased media coverage was only one of the strategies quietly enacted by Abby Mann. When Deputy District Attorney Glenn Stevens was caught leaking information on the prosecution's case to Mann, he was forced to resign. No charges were brought against him. From the Los Angeles Times. Gaining the confidence of the McMartin defendants, the Manns were ultimately hired as "investigators" for the defense. That and their earlier alliance with former prosecutor Glenn Stevens sparked charges from parents of alleged child molestation victims of a conspiracy to obstruct justice for monetary gain. After Los Angeles Tmes reporter Bob Williams met Abby Mann, he wrote a flurry of memos charging the coverage of Lois Timnick, the paper's reporter on the McMartin beat, with extreme bias favoring the prosecution. The accusation was investigated by Noel Greenwood, the regional news editor at the Times. Greenwood concluded that it was Williams who'd acted with extreme bias, not Timnick. Greenwood's memoes state that Williams' memos were "reckless and irresponsible." Williams had "undermined a fellow reporter and seriously harmed the credibility and effectiveness of the Times." Williams was temporarily suspended without pay. Shortly thereafter, he went to work for Abby Mann. Williams surfaced next as a consultant to Mary Fischer, whose "A Case of Dominoes" in Los Angeles magazine drew upon the argument (first postulated by the child pornographers Paul and Shirley Eberle), that former District Attorney Robert Philobosian initiated the McMartin prosecution for political gain.

Fischer once admitted to the late Wayne Satz, the KABC television reporter who broke the McMartin story, that she wrote the article under the direction of Abby Mann. "There was never any case at all," Fischer wrote with absolute certainty. "At the very least, it is a blueprint for preying on public fears." Fischer has gone so far as to claim that therapists, parents and children attending McMartin masterminded a "conspiracy" to harass and imprison innocent people. When pressed on one occasion by Carol Hemingway, a Los Angeles talk show host, Fischer was unable to offer supporting evidence of conspiracy (as McMartin parents did), nor could she explain the motives of the conspirators. Fischer did her utmost to dismiss the medical evidence that molestation took place at the preschool. In October, 1988 the Los Angeles Times reported that medical examiners of the original 13 children scheduled to testify found "scars, tears, enlarged body openings or other evidence indicating blunt force trauma consistent with the repeated sodomy and rape they described."

One of the children bled from the anus. Some contracted venereal infections. Yet Fischer found relevant the findings of a Fresno pediatrician who refused to testify at the first McMartin trial. The 1987 study, summarized by Fischer, concluded that "any kind of irritation - not just sexual abuse - may damage children's genitals." This reader, at least, was left to ponder forms of "irritation" that might leave the McMartin children with chlamydia, confirmed by medical examinations and difficult to explain away. Fischer's follow-up McMartin story in Los Angeles for October, 1993 opined that a "hysterical tone" in press reports on McMartin was established by Wayne Satz. who died of heart failure in 1992, "causing some to speculate it was karma," wrote Fischer, an ersatz and mean-spirited elegy. "I still don't know how anyone could believe all that bull," Virginia McMartin told her. "Especially with a school as wide open as ours and people coming and going at all times. Or who could actually believe there were tunnels.. (The archeological team that led the excavation - ignored by Fischer - could have given her a guided tour.) "It shows the power of the media."

Apparently Abby Mann has a need for Ms. Fischer and the other writers in his employ. A best-selling Hollywood biographer (speaking on condition of anonymity) offers this insight into the career of Abby Mann. "He's incapable of writing scripts himself. It's true," he said, "he can't write. Abby keeps a fairly large stable of ghost writers to produce scripts in his name." Who is Abby Mann? Mae Brussell, the late Carmel-based political researcher, speculated in a November, 1987 radio broadcast that Mann is a covert operator posing as a Hollywood progressive, plying extensive media connectioins to influence public opinion. Mann's behind-the-scenes manipulations, ghosts and an exhaustive supply of funds and press contacts, support the hypothesis that Abby Mann is a media mole. Indictment, yet another disinformation effort supposedly written by Abby and Myra Mann, premiered on May 20, 1985 on HBO. The movie was produced and directed by Oliver Stone. As a political researcher, I had taken more than a passing interest in Stone's film JFK, and couldn't help but note that the media assault on Stone's bore a resemblance to Mann's campaign to discredit the McMartin children. The day after an announcement of the "secret" project already underway appeared in Variety, I contacted Stone's office and spoke with Jean Marie Burke, a researcher for Ixtlan Productions, Stone's company in Santa Monica. I informed Ms. Burke that much of the information about McMartin in the corporate media was disingenuous, beginning with the Eberles.

She brightened up. "Oh, the Eberles - I have their books right here!" She went silent when I told her that Paul and Shirley Eberle were child pornographers. I sent her a package of accurate information on the case by certified mail, then contacted her boss with a letter informing him simply that he had hold of a bad project, which had already been shot and was in the editing stage Stone wrote back, asking me to clarify. My response follows:

Mr. Stone: McMartin is poorly understood by most people because a disinformation gambit is afoot to discredit the children's¹ testimony -- a fusillade, in fact, similar to the one you were treated to after JFK. You asked me to clarify my objections. Consider how difficult it was to sort through and communicate the multitude of facts relevant to the killing of John Kennedy. And then recall how a carefully-conceived film on the assassination can be explained away with a glib "no evidence" from an Edward Epstein or Dan Rather. This is the problem I¹m up against with McMartin. There is a complex story behind the abuse -- it involves CIA mind control experiments, and this is largely what the plants in the establishment press, and fronts like the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, are concealing. (Nine out of ten psychiatrists in both the U.S. and Great Britain from large samplings believe ritual abuse to be a very real social problem. But the media inevitably talks only to the one of ten who deny, and many of those are experimental scientists on the CIA payroll.) You now find yourself on the same side (of the McMartin argument) as Alex Cockburn (you recall the knock-down-drag-out Nation debate with a leading progressive who rejects key crimes of government ((including the Kennedy assassination)) for high-toned, but ultimately silly reasons), Newsweek, etc. That alone should make you uncomfortable in the extreme. One of your researchers brightened up when I mentioned the only two books available on McMartin, both written by Paul and Shiirley Eberle. She knew those books inside out. The problem is, the Eberles published child pornography in the 1970s -- garishly packaged in an underground rag called Finger -- featuring adults having sex with children, children with excrement smeared on them, children in lewd positions and posing provocatively. This ludicrous pedophile sheet ran stories with such unsavory testimonials as "She was Only Thirteen," "What Happens when Niggers Adopt White Children," "My First Rape," and so on. Don¹t bother to read the McMartin books, if you haven¹t already. Each page is full of factual errors and conscious distortions. Your movie will perpetuate the Eberles' disinformation. But the LA Times will love it. (Buffy Chandler told a source of mine, in a moment of rage at her family, that her parents (the owners of the L.A. Times) funded weird genetic experiments years ago. This is no more bizarre than some of the things done in pre-schools around the country, and may explain the newspaper¹s change of attitude after the initial reporting.)

But Noel Greenwood, a Times editor, knew what he was talking about when he said there is a "mean-spirited campaign" in play to slant the truth about McMartin. Abby Mann is a key proponent. His attorney threatened to sue if I didn't retract my comments when an early version of my research appeared several years ago. I did not retract. In fact, the newspaper, Random Lengths in Long Beach, backed me. Others appearing in the story threatened me. They did not sue. Why not? They made such a noise. Now they are the sources of your movie, still making noise about "innocence abused," and it¹s hollow.

They contend there is no evidence that children were abused at McMartin. On the contrary, there is an abundance of evidence. But the DA had no real intention of gathering it. Neither did the press. Same as JFK, eh? The CIA connection to cults around the country began in 1963. The story was told by a Berkeley psychologist in a thesis entitled "The Penal Colony," which was presented at a psychiatric conference in San Francisco by Congressional aide Joe Holsinger after Leo Ryan was killed at Jonestown. The hybrid was conceived because people were asking questions about experiments at McGill, the University of Pennsylvania, John Hopkins, UCLA, Honeywell, NASA and other haunts of the CIA's MKULTRA mind control fraternity. Jonestown was one product of the association. Another, more recent example was the Solar Temple killings in Switzerland. The British press reported that this cult was running arms to Australia and South America, and laundering the proceeds at BCCI. The American press couldn't find this information. What does this tell you?

Buckey Sr. testified that he did not have tunnels dug beneath the preschool. Why would anyone do that? Five scientists have put their reputations on the line to confirm that there are tunnels. One, a carbon-dating specialist, discovered that the tunnels were excavated in 1968. That was the year the preschool was built. It was built by Charles Buckey. He lied on the stand. The kids gave fairly accurate descriptions of the tunnels. Did Abby?

Regards, Alex Constantine

Despite this protest, and threats of a boycott of HBO from children's advocacy groups around the country, Indictment aired anyway. The movie simply reinforces the many misconceptions the public has been force-fed since Abby Mann became involved in the case. The Most Hated Man at the L.A. Times In January, 1990, after the anti-climactic, deadlocked verdict of the second trial, the Los Angeles Tmes ran a four-part series by media critic David Shaw, trashing the paper's own coverage of the McMartin case. Shaw described press coverage of the case as a "media feeding frenzy" ranking with exposes of Gary Hart, Oliver North and Dan Quayle. "More than most big stories," Shaw explained, "McMartin at times exposed basic flaws in the way the contemporary news organizations function. Pack journalism. Laziness. Superficiality." Daily newspaper coverage, he argued, was contaminated by "cozy relationships with prosecutors," and a competitive furor "that sends reporters off in a frantic search to be the first with the latest shocking alllegation."

Shaw's McMartin series won the Times its 18th Pulitzer, but few reporters attended the champagne party thrown in his honor. "Most people don't like him," Times staffer Lee Dye told a reporter for Los Angeles magazine. "He really is disliked at the Times," said restaurant critic Ruth Reichl. Bill Boyarsky, another staffer, says "everyone around me hates him." The harshest opinion of Shaw came from the late Glenn Binford, the paper's late night editor at the city desk, who refers to Shaw as "an oily little prick." The nickname stuck. "Even the late Dial Torgerson," reported Los Angeles, "a droll, dry-witted newsman's newsman ... adopted the moniker, though it was uncharacteristic of Torgerson to disparage anyone." Reporters for the "Metro" section particularly harbor a keen disdain for David Shaw.

Why is so much animosity directed his way? Most of Shaw's colleagues at the Times feel that he receives special treatment. He is contracted to write a mere four stories a year. He moonlights as the monthly "Dining Out" columnist for GQ magazine. As the official ombudsman of the Times, one reporter complains, "Shaw plays favorites and purposefully ducks anything that may really irritate his superiors, tending instead to aim at those with no actual power."

One of his primary targets is staff writer Lois Timnick and Cathleen Decker, whose McMartin coverage was hardly "frantic" or "superficial." Shaw's depiction of them as reportorial McCarthyites is not borne out by a review of the newspaper's McMartin coverage, and the air around Times Mirror Square has, since his series appeared, been thick with acrimony. A week before Shaw received the Pultizer, Timnick (who has since stopped talking to him) threatened to organize an office "suicide party" if he won. When he did walk away with an award, the Pulitzer committee stated that it was given to Shaw not on the merits of his writing, but because the Times permitted him to criticize the paper's own coverage of a landmark trial. Shaw was born on an Air Force base in Dayton, Ohio. He was educated at Pepperdine and UCLA. His career took off when, as a reporter for the Long Beach Independent Press-Telegram, he published a scalding investigative story on Max Rafferty, the Republican opponent of Alan Cranston for a Senate seat. Shaw's five-part series killed Rafferty's political prospects with allegations of draft dodging. Shaw received an award from the Los Angeles Press Club for the story, and a job offer from the Times.

That was 18 years ago. He was informally assigned to "the sex beat." Shaw plied his investigative skills with titillating exposes of massage parlors and strip clubs. His piece on a nightspot featuring live sex with a dog threw the newsroom into turmoil - this is the same commentator who later dismissed most press coverage of McMartin as "sensational" and "superficial." Shaw defines himself publicly as a "liberal," but he frequently expresses right-wing sentiments, and his writing can be fairly summed up as propagandistic. He chose to write on McMartin, Los Angeles magazine reported, "because he needed an excuse to stay in town. 'My wife was eight months pregnant, and I was looking for a story that would keep me in L.A. so I would be here for the birth."

"Experts" on the McMartin debacle - Shaw, the Eberles, Dr. Underwager, Abby Mann, and others - have, in violation of their own admonitions, retired it in the press. Ray Buckey is supposed to be as innocent as Ceasar's wife. If so, why do Buckey's supporters ignore critical evidence? Why the statistical fabrications? Why lament repeatedly that the case took five years to try when dragging it out was a conscious defense strategy? Why ignore the tunnels and the bones? And, most troubling off all, why has so much effort been put into propagating mass deception on Buckey's behalf?

Cult and Ritual Abuse - It's History, Anthropology, and Recent Discovery in Contemporary America - Noblitt and Perskin - Prager (2000) p. 141 - 142 (1995 book - p.184 2000 book) "The McMartin Case is also the subject of the cable movie, Indictment, produced by Home Box Office. Several children's advocacy groups have expressed concerns that the film's focus appears to be slanted in favor of the accused perpetrators. The newsletter for the organization, Believe the Children, contains an impassioned plea to its readers to relinquish their subscriptions to Home Box Office (HBO) in protest of the film's airing. An article featured in the newsletter entitled "Sex Abuse, Lies and Videotape"(1995) describes the genesis of the program and voices its concerns that the true victims of the McMartin case, the children, might be damaged by the perspective of the film's author, Abby Mann. According to the article, Mann and his wife, Myra, became advocates of the operators and staff of the McMartin preschool during the course of their trial. Because of the Mann's involvement in the case and their relationship to the accused perpetrators, the article expressed the concern that the film might reflect an unbalanced portrait of accused and accusers such that roles might be reversed in the eyes of the viewing public. This has, in fact, been proven to be a correct assumption. Reviews of the cable movie featured in magazines such as Time (Bellafante, 1995) and TV Guide (McDougal, 1995) on the film's depiction of an overzealous prosecuting attorney, a mentally unbalanced parent of a child victim, and a punitive therapist all lend themselves to the perpetuation of the ideas that the true victims are the alleged perpetrators. Ironically, this film also casts the media in an unfavorable light implying that the media's over-the-top reporting of the event led to a veritable witch hunt."

"The movie "The Indictment," produced for Home Box Office, about the McMartin trial, was criticized by several children's advocacy groups for being slanted in favor of the accused perpetrators. According to an article featured in the newsletter "Sex Abuse, Lies and Videotape," (1995) the film's author Abby Mann and his wife Myra became advocates of the operators and staff of the McMartin preschool during the McMartin trial. The article expressed the concern that the film might reflect an unbalanced portrait of accused and accusers such that roles might be reversed in the eyes of the viewing public. This has been proven to be a correct assumption."

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Fran’s Day Care

Fran’s Day Care
Randy Noblitt, PhD


©Copyright R. Noblitt 2009. All rights reserved.

In recent days, an interest in the case of Fran and Dan Keller has reemerged and that reemergence has triggered new interest in the outcries of children that resulted in several investigations, trials, convictions, and tragedies throughout the 1990s. I can speak about Fran’s Day Care with some authority.

In 1992, the Travis County prosecutor’s office contacted me for advice as to how they should proceed with a bizarre case involving multiple child victims of sexual and ritual abuse in a day care. The accused perpetrators were the owners-operators of the nursery, Fran and Dan Keller. The day care was situated in a remote area beyond the suburbs of Austin, Texas. At this time, the legal community was reeling from the McMartin Day Care ordeal which was the costliest prosecution in California history up to that time, and had resulted in two hung juries in a seven-year prosecution. The prosecution, wishing to learn from the mistakes of McMartin, wanted advice regarding how to proceed without contaminating the children’s stories, compromising the alleged perpetrators’ rights, and getting to the truth of the children’s outcries.

Some of the parents whose children attended the preschool became suspicious when their children returned home wearing underwear not their own, or with their clothes inside out or with their hair wet. There were always reasonable explanations: the child had an accident and was changed into clothes on hand for that purpose; or the child splashed water on herself when the children were cleaning up; and so forth. However, when one of the children made an outcry, the parents more closely scrutinized the strange behaviors some of the children had started engaging in and the aforementioned episodes, and they took their concerns to the police. The police took the concerns seriously and collected statements and evidence. The grand jury found a basis for indictment. The Kellers responded to the warrant for their arrest by fleeing the state in disguise, obtaining false identifications in their new personas, and attempting to leave the country. They were apprehended in Las Vegas, Nevada and extradited back to Travis County.

It was at this point that I was introduced to the situation. I was in private practice in Dallas, two hundred miles north of Austin and had no knowledge of what was happening at Fran’s Day Care. The prosecutor, Judy Shipway, contacted me for advice on how to deal with the children, their stories, their parents’ reactions, and the impact of ritual abuse allegations on the court. I advised her to focus on the sexual abuse allegations for which there was substantial support and evidence. I expressed my opinion that introducing the topic of ritual abuse would be exploited by the defense as a means of discrediting the children. I also advised Ms. Shipway to make sure that every child had a therapist and that no therapist treat more than one child from Fran’s Day Care. Finally, I advised the prosecutor to request that the children’s parents not communicate with one another until after the trial to avoid inadvertent contamination of their children’s stories and their own interpretations. These suggestions were all implemented.

I was also invited to review the evidence which included drawings and writings produced by Danny Keller; the confession of co-defendant Doug Perry; the testimony of the children. I was able to describe for the prosecution the kinds of abuses ritually practiced by various groups and individuals and explain the psychological consequences of such abuse. I was able to interpret for the prosecutor the children’s stories in the context of what had been learned from other victims including the use of coercion, duplicity, threats, and other means of controlling survivors of such abuse.

Although several children at the day care were thought to have been sexually and ritually traumatized, some of them were so young that they did not yet speak in complete sentences. Some of them were identified by other victims. Three of the children were selected to represent the whole population. These were slightly older children, five and six years old, and they were able to convey their stories most articulately of all the child victims.

As the trial commenced, the prosecution developed an excellent case against the Kellers. I was surprised only by the defense attorneys’ rather blasé approach to their defense of the Kellers, perhaps operating under the assumption that the children would not be believed. In defense of the Kellers, their attorneys did raise the specter of ritual abuse by introducing into evidence the book Sex Abuse Hysteria: The Salem Witch Trials Revisited (Gardner, 1991), which promoted the idea that sexual and ritual abuse allegations by children were projections of their parents (and other adults’) latent pedophilia. It was at this point that I was asked to take the stand as an expert witness and address the topic of ritual abuse and Gardner’s book.

The case ended with the conviction of the Kellers and their sentencing to 48 years in prison each. They are in prison still, any efforts for appeal having failed to date. Shortly after the trial, the magazine, Texas Monthly, published a piece by Gary Cartwright in which he implied that the Kellers were the true victims in this sorry tale. He did me the courtesy of a call to “fact check” his story, particularly ideas attributed to me, except that it was only after the issue had been published.

Recently, the Fran’s Day Care case was dredged up by the Austin Chronicle, an alternative periodical produced locally in Texas. My son sent me the link in an email with the heading, “Dad, you’re in the news again.” Once more, the perspective was one of advocacy for falsely accused, persecuted, prosecuted, and convicted victims of a malicious or inept legal system that places too much trust in the stories children tell. A particular flaw in this story was the story. It was certainly not founded on anything I witnessed during my participation in the case. Evidence was not withheld from the prosecution to my knowledge. The defense was left flat-footed by their own conviction that the children would not be believed. And the advice I offered may have helped to prevent influence or contamination of the children’s testimony. The children’s stories were credible – Fran and Dan Keller’s defense was not. End of story? Probably not. I doubt that we have heard the last of Fran and Dan or of their day care or of their victims.

Interestingly enough, the Austin Chronicle article, Believing the Children, ended with a reference to one of the child victims, Veejay Staelin, a now 21-year old. Although he declined to be interviewed for the story, he re-asserted that he had been abused by Fran and Dan Keller.

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:eek::eek::eek: MADE IN LAUREL CANYON...

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/2009/09/22/mackenzie-phillips-had-sex-with-her-dad/

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this is sort of intriguing. Daniel Horowitz was a frequent media commentator on the Laci Peterson murder , and often appeared appeared sympathetic to the defense of Scott Peterson, who maintained all along that his pregnant wife had been killed by a satanic cult. Considering the region that this transpired in (San Francisco/Sacramento), maybe it is not so far-fetched today as it may have sounded back in 2004 (his wife was eight months pregnant when she was murdered)
what catches the eye is that Daniel Horowitz' wife was then murdered by a satanic goth in 2005

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kE6zZCqwmo&NR=1

http://raumfahrer.wordpress.com/manson/
Fox News Report from Oct. 22nd, 2005 on satanic ritualistic Murder of David Horowitz's wife by a Scott Dyleski, a member of Goth cult, who was a satanist and Marilyn Manson fan.

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video:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8EB9A6718833E339&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL

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btw, eight months pregnant Laci Peterson was reported missing Christmas Eve.

quote:

In Lone Defense of Scott Peterson

by Jen Shroder
12/13/04 permission to repost already granted

I don’t get it. My favorite columnists are writing volumes to hang Scott Peterson. Crowds at the courthouse are being compared to lynch mobs. Peterson is being compared to Hitler, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and a hit list of gruesome ax murdering child molesters. But the columnists forgot one thing, where’s the evidence?

The news media has laughed a little too hard at the possibility of a satanic cult. If you do the research, there are THOUSANDS of unrecovered missing women and children in California that the media ignores. There ARE childhood survivors of satanic cults who have testified to graphic descriptions of siblings being tortured to death. Recently in Italy, two teenage members of a heavy metal rock band called the "Beasts of Satan" were killed by other band members in a human sacrifice involving black candles, goats’ skulls and sexual violence. In Houston, Texas, a police officer gave school children satanic sex calendars featuring explicit details on satanic and sexual rituals for every day of the month.

In 1988 Geraldo Rivera received heavy criticism and pressure for reporting on Satan’s Underground, creating a Satanic panic. His reports included butchered infants, breeding of babies for later sacrifice during Satanic rituals, ritual sexual abuse of children, mutilation of infants, drinking of blood, dismembered corpses, cannibal cults and sex orgies. There were "gruesome rituals," and "gruesome memories," and "gruesome allegations," and "brutally violent, horrible crimes," and acts "so incredibly outrageous, so incredibly unbelievable," that he was reluctant to describe them. "The most gruesome scenes are left out," said Rivera, "Estimates are that there are over 1 million Satanists in this country...The majority of them are linked in a highly organized, very secretive network. From small towns to large cities, they have attracted police and FBI attention to their Satanic ritual child abuse, child pornography and grisly Satanic murders. The odds are that this is happening in your town."

Laci’s hometown has a satanic group called, "The Order of the Lion" where it was last reported to have 20 to 30 members. Near the time of Laci’s kidnapping, a brown van "adorned with satanic symbols" was sited near the Peterson home and some witnesses "recalled a group of suspicious men, one sporting a 666 tattoo, in the area."

In relation to "The Order of the Lion’s" previous crimes, Modesto attorney William Arthur Miller said he recalled a member saying that the "sacrifice of a newborn baby was the 'cleaningest' thing you could do. I took that to mean to 'most cleansing,'" Miller said. A review of some of the writings revealed references to altars, witchcraft, blood-letting curses, dining with the dead, pentagrams, demons, goats, visions, secret oaths and "the father of darkness."

On the eastern edge of the San Francisco Bay near where the bodies of Laci and Connor washed up, huge paintings on sheets of plywood depict scenes of fire-breathing devils and ax-wielding grim reapers. One painting shows a man and woman in a canoe, with what appears to be three floating babies nearby, intertwined with an umbilical cord.

San Diego therapist Mary Battles said she remains convinced that ritual killings and abuse go on throughout the country. "Where you'll find the evidence is in the men and women who went through it and have scars on their bodies," said Battles. She said she has treated 50 people who were victims of satanic cults and, "I still get a steady stream of them."

Anyone who has studied satanism knows there is a fascination with the innocence of infants. I knew a woman who witnessed her younger brother dangling from his feet being tortured to death. She was in long term therapy and had a difficult time dealing with life after growing up in a Satanist family. San Francisco, where Laci and Conner washed up, has an exploding populace of Satanists and is the founding home of the Church of Satan.

Missing and abducted women and children are far more prevalent than realized. According to 2003 government statistics, in California alone, 10,684 adults have gone missing, never recovered. Another 346 missing are ominously listed as "deceased." 4,815 children have gone missing under "Unknown Circumstances" - when circumstances surrounding the disappearance are unknown. 545 children disappeared under suspicious circumstances that may indicate a stranger abduction, and in 51 cases the stranger abduction was witnessed. Nationwide 58,200 children were abducted by nonfamily members.

Scott Peterson is clearly a first-class heel but I believe the witch-hunt upon him is exactly that, a lynch-mob inspired by witches out to avert the attention on the growing satanist population and the rituals that DO happen. How hard would it be for a murderer to dig up the bodies and dump them where everyone was looking for them, to convict Peterson? I also wonder what has motivated Rivera, who previously apologized to satanists for his coverage of them, to lead the witch hunt, with Rita Cosby salivating at his side. When Laci first disappeared, they trashed Scott for not speaking to the media. When he DID speak to the media, they endlessly dissected and speculated about everything he said. When he stopped speaking to the media, Cosby went into a froth insisting he had something to hide. If I was Scott Peterson, I would have hid from the media as well, especially Cosby and Rivera, who even resorted to name-calling.

Though Fox News is my favorite news source, there are serious moments of doubt that I’m sure every conservative has experienced. This shark frenzy screaming for the death and torment of Peterson is macabre. I hope every married man thinks twice about cheating on their wives. You never know where you might wind up for talking trash to your girlfriend, perhaps in a jail cell on death row next to Peterson with the nation screaming for your execution. It’s as frightening a scene as Fatal Attraction with a twist, the adorable wife didn’t survive. Glenn Close played the blonde hussy desperate for attention. Sound familiar?

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I like this writer's style


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Neo-Nazis Target Scott


Is this mainstream news?

What kind of a conspiracy theorist to you have to be, to suggest that Scott Peterson murdered his pregnant wife the day before numerous, reliable witnesses saw her walking her dog?

Welcome to the wild and wacky world of tunnel vision, where the name of the game is to win at all cost. Unfortunately, the consequence of this game is that innocent people are wrongfully accused and convicted, and the people who are pointing the finger have earned the right to be the butt of every joke.

Pundits like Nancy Grace are not above claiming that Scott's boat is too little for sturgeon fishing, but it's big enough to contain a body, tarps, anchors, cement blocks, and even a 55 gallon drum filled with cement. A scent dog who 'indicated' to it's handler that Laci was taken in a car is believed without question but numerous scent dogs who tracked Laci down Covena Street to Yosemite street and along Yosemite street to Maze boulevard are not considered credible. The list goes on and on and on...

The biggest joke of this entire charade is that the police can find a single hair on a pair of pliers but they cannot find an entire head of hair. Listen to Nancy Grace gloat about the hair: "And this hair, not only do I think it will be traced back in one in millions to Laci Peterson, but the context in which it was found allegedly is what is so important about this hair. It allegedly is found in a pair of pliers on Scott Peterson's boat. Important? Laci had never been on the boat! The virgin voyage of the boat was the day Laci went missing, and on this boat turns up her hair." The fact that Scott was repeatedly witnessed on his boat ALONE does not appear to matter to Nancy Grace, indicating that the hair was deliberately planted to make it appear as if Laci had not been kidnapped, as Scott Peterson suggests.

The bizarre, Laci Peterson "investigation" has been routinely ridiculed by competent, intelligent investigators like David Sween, because there is absolutely no rhyme nor reason to their bizarre procedures. For example, hunting for clues in murky, silt-filled shallow waters is a subject of intense speculation because the divers and Modesto police were not talking on the record. Why not? What were they looking for? Were they looking for Laci's head or for the anchors that were pictured in the National Enquirer? Indeed, silence is prudent because it is not possible to explain the intense, focused hunt in the 12-foot water where the visibility was nearly zero meaning they had to search the muddy bottom by hand. Under these circumstances, the divers were more likely to find a chest full of gold coins rather than evidence which is related to the murder of Laci Peterson. Needless to say, what is being created is the appearance of a search, and if anything of evidentiary value is found, it will be because it has been placed in front of the diver's noses to be found or because the police are going to make another mysterious, unexplained discovery, like the so called pliers with the hair, that were supposedly found in Scott's boat. The fact is, the search for evidence is not a blindfolded hunt for a needle in a haystack, and the comical ineptitude of this "hunt for evidence" proves that the effort to link Scott Peterson to the murder of his wife is absolutely grotesque and disgusting. Reality check; Laci was spotted walking her dog a day after Scott Peterson supposedly murdered her. The dog Mackenzie, was not another dog, and the lady that was spotted, was not another pregnant lady because Laci's dog is the only one in the neighborhood, that returned home, without its pregnant master.

These periodic hunts for the needle in the haystack have reemerged, and now, the police have a new excuse for not telling us what they are looking for --a gag order has been issued. But they are so predictable that people who discuss the case on message boards have already figured it out.

The name of the game is to create the impression that Scott murdered his wife the day before she was witnessed walking her dog, and on that, we can all rely

The initial plot to that effect involved a trucker who allegedly saw Scott transporting Laci's corpse on December 23, 2003. The trucker told his story on a radio talk show and it is was heard by many people in California. He was said to have been told by law enforcement not to talk to anyone else, but that didn't stop him from getting his story out through the local KFBK Sacramento radio station. The reporter stated a truck and trailer with a boat resembling the one belonging to Scott Peterson cut him off while he was driving on 99 south, towards Fresno (kind of between Laci's home and his girlfriend's home. The truck driver said he drove along side Scott's truck for a long period of time, close to 80 miles. He went on to say he observed a women in the passenger side of the truck with her left shoulder slumped down, her head was hanging down with her hair covering her face. This women never moved for the 80 miles that he observed. He reported info to the police immediately following Laci's disappearance and was asked not to speak -- according to KFBK Sacramento radio station's broadcast!

This bizarre story was published in the National Enquirer on May 20, 2003, and it is too stupid to take seriously, unless one entertains the fact that the people who murdered Laci Peterson are desperately looking for a way to blame Scott. One can also assume that this trucker was the witness that the DA was planning to produce to justify Scott's arrest. After all, everything is routinely leaked, to turn the public against Scott, and if there was another witness we would have heard of him or her, by now.

Clearly, despite the gag order, we are still discovering everything there is to leak about the bizarre murder of Laci Peterson, and the latest story is even funnier than the trucker witness. It is difficult to make this up, so a direct quote from the media should convince the doubting reader, that the fodder of this report is authentic:

FRESNO, Calif., Sept. 20 (UPI) -- A Fresno County Jail inmate claims accused killer Scott Peterson plotted with Neo-nazis against his pregnant wife about a month before she disappeared.

Cory Lee Carroll passed a polygraph test and met this week with investigators in the Laci Peterson case, his attorney told the Fresno Bee.

Officials directly associated with the case refused to comment on the claims, citing a gag order imposed by the court.

This is certainly a new twist to the old standard gimmick --the jailhouse snitch --it's the sophisticated version here. Needless to say, the plot to frame Scott Peterson is not your regular, run-of-the-mill operation --this is bigtime. What we have here is a career criminal who is being cultivated to replace the trucker witness who failed to deliver the goods. The polygraph test is a nice touch, but it's not washing. When the police, forensic experts and crown prosecutors are so confident that they built their case backwards, manipulating and creating evidence to prove the guilt of a suspect, they pervert justice when the target is innocent.

Attorney Frank Muna told ABCNEWS' Good Morning America his client, Cory Lee Carroll, a convicted forger, thief and parole violator, told him the story about Peterson while submitting to a lie detector test administered by Muna's private investigator. Muna said he called authorities after Carroll passed the test while giving the account. Modesto Police have not commented on Carroll's story, citing a gag order in the case. This is bigtime. A Neo-Nazi gang kidnapped and murdered Laci Peterson, even though the prosecution repeatedly insists that Scott Peterson murdered Laci on the 23rd or the 24th of December.

Somebody is working awfully hard, to create the false impression that Scott Peterson is responsible for the disappearance of his wife. The only problem is, a murder is not solved by working hard. It is solved by acknowledging credible evidence and by exposing the gimmicks that conspire to cover up the truth.
If you believe the claim of a Fresno County Jail inmate who says that accused murderer Scott Peterson broached the idea of kidnapping his wife while meeting with two members of a Neo-Nazi gang about a month before a pregnant Laci Peterson disappeared, you need help. Why was Cory Lee Carroll, interviewed in jail by investigators from the Modesto Police Department and the Stanislaus County District Attorney's Office? Why have police divers returned to the bay, to fish for clues? This message posted on one of the boards that discuss the murder of Laci Peterson, has answered the question very nicely:

Jailhouse snitches have been fed information "only the killers would know" and police divers are still looking for a way to pervert justice. This is in the media on September 20, 2003:

"On Friday, divers from the Contra Costa County Sheriff's Department searched the waters of the east San Francisco Bay for additional evidence in the Laci Peterson murder case. The divers concentrated their efforts in the area of Point Isabella, near Richmond. However, investigators would not say what they were seeking."

If the police want to solve the murder all they have to do is arrest the creeps who are planting all the evidence. It's very simple --DUH ! ! !

By the way, are the MORONS looking for Laci's head, or are they just interested in leads that manufacture the cause of death?

Ordinary people get it. Why doesn't the DA?

Where did these ridiculous, exhaustively developed stories about a Neo-Nazi gang come from? Isn't it obvious? On June 26, 2003, prosecutors said that witnesses were not available for a preliminary inquiry that had been scheduled for next month. Isn't that a strange, indefinite referral? Why don't we all just wait until the DA finds somebody who is prepared to lie. No doubt, if all else fails, we can always rely upon the ability of putting the squeeze on desperate, jailhouse inmates who will do or say absolutely anything to make a deal.

I have an idea. Why don't we pick you up, whoever it is that is reading this right now, throw you in jail and keep you there until we find a jailhouse snitch who is willing to call you a murderer. How would YOU like that?

This idiotic prosecution has more theories about how Laci was murdered than you can possibly imagine. It was a hard kill, then it was a date-rape drug-induced, soft kill and now, it was a planned kidnapping? Are these people nuts? They refused to believe that Laci was kidnapped until a bunch of Neo-Nazis told them so? If you think the satanic cult killing theory was mad, this is absolute lunacy. This investigation is a total fiasco and there is ABSOLUTELY NO excuse for the fact that Laci's husband is in jail because Scott Peterson is clearly the one and only person who had the most to lose from the fact that his pregnant wife was kidnapped and murdered. What happened to the stupid theory that Scott murdered his own unborn child because he wanted to be married to a single mom with a child that was not even his own? Are these MORONS who are essentially framing Scott Peterson, real prosecutors?

Needless to say, these prosecutors are either extremely corrupt or too ignorant to take seriously. They don't even have enough evidence to hold Scott so they stall for time, to give them the opportunity figure it out. Why do you think they delayed the preliminary hearing, in the first place?

According to Ted Rowlands, Scott Peterson was upset over the fact that the Prosecutor delayed his preliminary inquiry. In his own words:

Probably the most surprising thing is that Scott Peterson actually spoke out today in court and seemed to be upset when he was asked if he was willing to waive time. He said, "Yes, I'll waive time," begrudgingly, in effect, and he sort of pointed at the prosecution, he said, "because they're not giving us the evidence," they've pushed back the preliminary hearing. It was to be July 15. It will now take place on September 9. That has been expected. But it seemed like Peterson was generally upset about it and wanted to say something in open court.

The prosecutors said that witnesses were not available for the preliminary inquiry, and now, it appears, they meant that witnesses had not been successfully cultivated because the trucker was not credible. They are currently testing the credibility of Neo-Nazis who claim that Scott Peterson is responsible for kidnapping his own wife.

It is popular to assert that the sneaky, Mark Geragos deferred the preliminary hearing because delays benefit the defense, but that is a load of crap. In open court, the defense team said, "We still aren't getting evidence from the prosecution that they have a responsibility to turn over to us" and Rick Distaso, the assistant DA, said "listen, we're having trouble getting some of that information over to the defense. So it is still going on, this discovery problem, the slow discovery making its way to the defense." Needless to say, discovery hasn't even reached the prosecution yet, because they are still looking for a needle in the haystack through the eyes of Neo-Nazis.

As long as the prosecution withholds discovery evidence [because they have nothing credible] they indefinitely postpone the preliminary inquiry, and it will be interesting to see how much time they are going to waste trying to cultivate a witness who is credible. Scott Peterson, who has repeatedly and emphatically indicated that he had absolutely nothing to do with the disappearance of his wife, is the only credible witness to date.

Mark Geragos is routinely ridiculed for investigating the satanic cult angle of the murder of Laci Peterson, but he did not make up the claim that a satanic cult was potentially involved. To be sure, a satanic cult was probably not involved, but Mark Geragos gathered the information from a report that he was given by the Modesto prosecutors, and if anybody is to blame for failing to bring Laci's murderers to justice, it is ignorant prosecutors who are blaming the man who is, under the circumstances, the least plausible suspect.

Defense Attorney, Christopher Pixley put it best, when he said; "But at this point, what's more logical, that Scott Peterson murdered his wife without leaving a trace of evidence, no blood or DNA anywhere, removed her head and her limbs from her body, potentially excised the baby from the womb, or that some deranged psychopath snatched her in a park and did it? I think there comes a point in time where it is more likely that someone else committed this crime, whether it's a satanic cult or just some crazed transient, than Scott Peterson himself." Christopher Pixley did not solve the murder, but neither did he make it impossible to do so, by blaming an innocent man.

The chances that the police will find some desperate, jailhouse inmate who tells them what they should be looking for, in the bay where Scott Peterson allegedly dumped his wife is absolutely zero. The chance that the police will find what somebody deliberately plants in front of their noses is excellent. So why are the police still combing the bay for clues?

On May 5, 2003, Nancy Grace said, "the worst thing that could happen to the defense is for the state to finally find anchors, if they exist at the bottom of the bay, through the use of a very interesting technique called side scan sonar. If those anchors are found and linked back to Scott Peterson, it is over." Are the police looking for anchors, because the Nazis claim that Nancy Grace is a good prosecutor? What a huge joke this would be, if the murder of Laci and Conner was not so tragic. Remarkably, the killers planted Laci and Conner to implicate Scott Peterson and Nancy Grace thinks that finding an anchor is more important than the fact that the killers produced a decapitated body. In other words, an anchor that resides in the imagination of an idiotic conspiracy theory is more important than Laci Peterson's missing head. If that is what Nancy Grace in fact believes, then she is too stupid to take seriously. If she is intelligent, she is deliberately covering up the truth about the murder of Laci Peterson.

At this point in time, when a desperate, career criminal claims that Scott Peterson discussed the kidnapping of his wife with members of a prison gang, he is doing it at the behest of the people who are trying to cover up the truth about the murder of Laci Peterson. And if Modesto police investigators, who recently returned to the San Francisco Bay Area with Police divers who searched the bay and visited the Richmond marina, are not trying to frame Scott Peterson, they should begin to arrest all the people who are.

The current, Neo-Nazi effort to set Scott Peterson up is reminiscent of the campaign to suggest that the trucker witness was credible. Indeed, according to the nonsense that Nancy Grace broadcasts, the trucker was a viable witness because he identified the word 'Gamefisher' on Scott's boat, before it became public knowledge, and that was supposed to be his lie-detector test. Instead, it is just another part of the overzealous effort to create the false impression that Scott murdered Laci. [September 23, 2003]












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Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation
Part XV
June 6, 2009


The Byrds were the very first folk-rock band to take flight, and the one that achieved the greatest fame, but to many discerning ears, Laurel Canyon’s other folk-rock powerhouse, the Buffalo Springfield, was the more talented band.


In the literature chronicling the 1960s music scene, few stories are repeated more frequently than the legend surrounding the formation of what would later be regarded as perhaps the first ‘supergroup.’ All such accounts unquestioningly retell the story as though it were the gospel truth, seemingly oblivious to the improbability of virtually every aspect of the legend. And curiously, virtually every version of the story contains some form of the word “serendipity,” as though everyone has been copying off the same kid’s homework.



As the story goes, Stephen Stills and Richie Furay, formerly of the Au Go-Go Singers, had recently transplanted themselves to Los Angeles after the breakup of the manufactured folkie group. Stills had been the first to relocate, in August of 1965. Furay flew out to join him in February 1966, after spending a little time working at defense giant Pratt & Whitney, and the two set their sights on putting together a folk-rock band.



Meanwhile, up in Toronto, Neil Young and Bruce Palmer were playing in a band known as the Mynah Birds – a band fronted by an AWOL Navy man known as Ricky James Matthews, who would later morph into funkmeister/torturer/rapist Rick James, but whose real name was James Ambrose Johnson, Jr.. The Mynah Birds broke up in March of 1965, just after authorities came calling on Matthews and tossed him in the Brooklyn Brig. Now in search of a new band, Young made the curious decision to head out to LA, for no better reason than that he had what Palmer described as “a hunch, a feeling that … Stephen Stills was in LA.”



Of course, Young had no clue if Stills was in fact there, nor did he know anyone else in LA. And you would think that he would have realized that, even if Stills was there, there was virtually no chance of finding some random person in a city of millions, especially when the person doing the searching had no idea how to get around the city. But no matter. Neil had a calling, so he jumped into an old hearse, of all things, recruited Palmer to ride shotgun, and the two set off on the lengthy trek to Los Angeles.



They arrived, the legend tells us, on April 1, 1966 – April Fool’s Day, appropriately enough – and began the search for Stills. Several days of searching yielded no results, however, and on the afternoon of April 6, the frustrated pair decided to head off to San Francisco in the hopes that maybe they would have better luck finding Stephen there. Perhaps they were going to go on a tour of all the big cities in America, in the hopes that somewhere along the way they might find Stephen Stills.



But as fate would have it, just as they were about to head out of town, Stephen Stills found them. As Barney Hoskyns tells the story in his Hotel California, “Early in April 1966, Stills and Richie Furay were stuck in a Sunset Strip traffic jam in Barry Friedman’s Bentley. As they sat in the car, Stephen spotted a 1953 Pontiac hearse with Ontario plates on the other side of the street. ‘I’ll be damned if that ain’t Neil Young,’ Stills said. Friedman executed an illegal U-turn and pulled up behind the hearse. One of rock’s great serendipities had just occurred. Young, a lanky Canadian, had just driven all the way from Detroit in the company of bassist Bruce Palmer. They’d caught the bug that was drawing hundreds of other pop wannabes to the West Coast.”



The pair had actually driven out from Toronto, not Detroit, and the hearse was a 1959 model by most accounts, and Stills and Furay were in a van rather than a Bentley, but such inconsistencies are typical of all Hollywood legends. In any event, John Einarson, in For What It’s Worth, supplies a somewhat longer, and more hyperbole-filled, version of the legend: “What transpired next is no longer considered simply a chance encounter. Transcending mere fact, the events of the next few minutes have taken on mythic proportions to become, in the annals of popular culture, legendary. More than pure luck, coincidence or serendipity, at that very moment the planets aligned, stars crossed, everyone’s karma turned positive, divine intervention interceded, the hand of fate revealed itself – whatever you subscribe to in order to explain the unexplained. Though each of the five participants in that moment in time tell it slightly differently, the fact remains that the occupants of the white van, individually or collectively, depending on who’s retelling it, noticed the black hearse with the foreign plate heading the other direction. Once the light of recognition came on, the van hastily pulled an illegal, and likely difficult in rush hour, U-turn, maneuvering its way through the line of northbound cars, horn honking frantically all the while, to pull up behind the hearse. One of the passengers leapt out, ran up and pounded on the driver’s side window of the strange vehicle, yelling to the startled travelers inside who had taken no notice of the blaring car horn directly behind them. ‘Hey Neil, it’s me, Steve Stills! Pull over, man!’ The drivers of the two vehicles managed to find curb space or a vacant store parking lot, again depending on whose version is being related, and the five piled out to embrace and introduce one another … On April 6, 1966, in that late afternoon line of traffic, the course of popular music was altered forever.”



Anyone who actually lives and drives in LA likely knows that “difficult” is not really the word to describe the feasibility of making an impromptu U-turn in rush hour traffic on the Sunset Strip; the correct word would be “impossible,” which is the same word that accurately describes the likelihood of that van “maneuvering its way through the line of northbound cars,” or of it finding “curb space” on Sunset Boulevard. But let’s just play along and assume that Neil Young and Stephen Stills, each of whom, for some reason, had been dreaming about forming a band with the other, had a random, chance encounter on Sunset Boulevard. In that brief moment in time, a band was formed – or at least 4/5 of a band.



Retiring to the home of Barry Friedman, who would later legally change his name to Frazier Mohawk, the quartet of musicians quickly decided that their newly-formed band would only perform original material. With no less than three singer/songwriter/guitarists on board (Furay, Young and Stills), along with a bass player (Bruce Palmer), all that was needed was a drummer. Three days later, on April 9, 1966, they acquired one, in the form of Dewey Martin, formerly with the Dillards.



The Dillards, as it turns out, had just decided to go back to their acoustic bluegrass roots, so they no longer needed a drummer. They also apparently had no further need for a whole bunch of new electric instruments and stacks of amplifiers, so Dewey, according to legend, brought all of that with him. Because the Dillards, you know, were just going to throw it all away anyway. So now, with the stars all properly aligned, the band was not only complete but they each had shiny new electric instruments to play – and it all had magically come together in just 72 hours.



There was still much work to be done, of course. For one thing, they all had to learn to play those shiny new electric instruments. And they all had to learn to play together as a band. And they had to build up a repertoire of original songs. And they had to rehearse and polish those songs. But not to worry; they had, as we’ll see, at least a couple of hours to work on each of those things.



Unlike, say, the Byrds, the members of the Buffalo Springfield were, by all accounts, talented musicians from the outset. Stills and Young were both skilled lead guitarists and songwriters, though Young’s vocals were, to be sure, an acquired taste. Furay was an accomplished rhythm guitarist and songwriter, as well as being the group’s best lead vocalist. Bruce Palmer was a respected bass player who, shockingly, actually had experience playing the instrument. And Dewey Martin, several years older than the rest of the crew, had drummed for such rock and country legends as the Everly Brothers, Charlie Rich, Roy Orbison, Patsy Cline, and Carl Perkins.



None of that, however, explains the absurdly meteoric rise of the Buffalo Springfield. On April 11, 1966, just five days after the quartet had purportedly first met, and just two days after they had added a drummer and instruments, the band played its first club date at one of Hollywood’s most prestigious venues: the Troubadour. Four days later, on April 15, they played the first of six dates around the southland opening for the hottest band on the Strip: the Byrds. That mini-tour was followed almost immediately by a six-week stand at the hottest club on the Strip, the Whisky. That gig wrapped up on June 20, 1966.



A month later, on July 25, the band landed the opening slot on the most anticipated concert of the year – the Rolling Stones show at the Hollywood Bowl, sponsored by local radio station KHJ. The station, by the way, had just been launched the previous year, in May of 1965, just a few weeks after the Byrds had taken the world by storm with the release of Mr. Tambourine Man and sparked a folk-rock revolution. Just as new clubs had magically appeared along the Sunset Strip in anticipation of the about-to-explode music scene, so too did a radio station magically appear to promote those new clubs and the artists filling them. Such things tend to happen, as we know, rather, uhmm, serendipitously.



Three days after the Stones concert at the Bowl, Buffalo Springfield released its first single, the Neil Young-penned Nowadays Clancy Can’t Even Sing, which failed to connect with the record-buying public. Several months later, the band would release what was to be its only hit single, and what would become the most recognizable ‘protest’ song of the 1960s. But before we get to that, let’s start back at the beginning … actually, let’s veer off on a tangent first, and then start back at the beginning.



As was duly noted in the last installment of this series, the law enforcement community had ample opportunity to silence the muses of the 1960s counterculture. That the state consistently chose not to utilize that power says much about the legitimacy of that counterculture. For if these iconic figures posed a demonstrable threat to the status quo, then why would they not have been silenced? Why, for example, were three members of the Buffalo Springfield – Neil Young, Richie Furay and Jim Messina, along with Eric Clapton, Furay’s wife, the band’s road manager, and nine others – arrested in a drug bust at a Topanga Canyon home, only to then walk away as if nothing had happened? Why was this case, and so many others like it, not aggressively prosecuted?



The state had other means to silence young critics, of course, one of the best being the military draft. As Richie Unterberger noted in Turn! Turn! Turn!, “Most folk rockers (if they were male), like their audience, were of draft age.” But curiously enough, “Very, very few had their careers interrupted by the draft.” Actually, Unterberger appears to just be playing it safe with the “very, very few” wording; after reading through both of Unterberger’s books and numerous other tomes covering similar ground, I have yet to read about any folk rocker whose career was affected by the draft in the 1960s.



What you will find in the literature are numerous mentions of various people receiving their draft notices, but those are invariably followed by amusing anecdotes about how said people beat the draft board by pretending to be gay or crazy. Of course, if it were really that easy to fool the draft board, then Uncle Sam probably wouldn’t have been able to come up with all those bodies to send over to Vietnam.



Hundreds of thousands of young men from all across the country were swept up and fed into the war machine, but not one of the musical icons of the Woodstock generation was among them. How could that be? Should we just consider that to be another one of those great serendipities? Was it mere luck that kept all the Laurel Canyon stars out of jail and out of the military during the turbulent decade that was the 1960s?



Not likely. The reality is that ‘The Establishment,’ as it was known in those days, had the power to prevent the musical icons of the 1960s from ever becoming the megastars that they became. The state, aka corporate America, could quite easily have prevented the entire countercultural movement from ever really getting off the ground – because then, as now, the state controlled the channels of communication.



A real grass-roots cultural revolution would probably have involved a bunch of starving musicians barely scratching out a living playing tiny coffee shops in the hopes of maybe someday landing a record deal with some tiny, local independent label and then, just maybe, if they got really lucky, getting a little airplay on some obscure college radio stations. But that’s not how the ‘60s folk-rock ‘revolution’ played out. Not by any stretch of the imagination.



As Unterberger duly notes in his expansive, two-volume review of the folk-rock movement, “much folk-rock was recorded and issued by huge corporations, and broadcast over radio and television stations owned for the most part by the same or similar pillars of the establishment.” Right from the start, in fact, it was the largest record labels leading the folk-rock charge. The very first of the folk-rock bands, the Byrds, signed with Columbia Records – whose name, in case you were wondering, is derived from a little place known as the District of Columbia, where the label was founded and headquartered some 120 years ago.



Laurel Canyon’s other folk-rock powerhouse, the Buffalo Springfield – the band that was supposed to be as big as the Byrds and the Beatles and the Beach Boys – signed with Atlantic Records. Atlantic had been founded in 1947 by Ahmet Ertegun and dentist/investor Herb Abramson. Born in Istanbul, Turkey in 1923, the year the Turk Republic was established, Ahmet was the son, and the grandson, of career diplomats/civil servants. His father was named the first Turkish representative to the League of Nations in 1925 and thereafter served as the Turk Republic’s ambassador to Switzerland, France, and England. In 1935, he was named the first Turkish ambassador to the United States and he promptly relocated the family to – where else? – Washington, DC.



From about the age of twelve, Ahmet grew up along DC’s Embassy Row, attending elite private schools with the sons and daughters of senators, congressmen, and spooks. In 1947, three years after his father died, Ertegun founded Atlantic Records. At first, the label was home to jazz and R&B artists, including Ray Charles, the company’s first big star. In the late 1950s, Ertegun took on his first assistant: a guy by the name of Phil Spector, who, rumor has it, was recently convicted of blowing a hole in Lana Clarkson’s head. Atlantic soon shifted focus and rock luminaries like Eric Clapton, Led Zeppelin and the Rolling Stones would later join the label’s stable of talent.



It would appear then that the two record labels that signed and launched Laurel Canyon’s first two folk-rock bands were not only major record labels, they also just happened to be corporate entities that had deep ties to the nation’s capitol and power center.



It was the major record labels, not upstart independents, that signed Laurel Canyon’s newly-formed bands. It was the major labels that provided them with instruments and amplifiers. It was the major labels that provided them with studio time and session musicians. It was the major labels that recorded, mixed and arranged their albums. It was the major labels that released and then heavily promoted those albums. And so as not to be left out, the corporate titans of all three branches of the mainstream media – print, radio and television – did their part to help out the titans of the record industry.



Unterberger notes that “AM radio (and sometimes prime-time network television) would act as a primary conduit for this countercultural expression.” Conservative, corporate-controlled AM stations across the country almost immediately began giving serious airplay to the new sounds coming out of Southern California, and network television gave the rising stars unprecedented coverage and exposure: “prime-time variety hours were much more likely to showcase rock acts than they would be in subsequent decades. New releases by the Byrds were often accompanied by large ads in trade magazines that simultaneously plugged the records and upcoming TV appearances.”



The boys in the Buffalo Springfield, for example, managed to find themselves appearing as guests on an impressive array of network television shows, including American Bandstand, The Smothers Brothers Show, Shebang, the Della Reese Show, the Go Show, the Andy Williams Show, Hollywood Palace, Where the Action Is, Joey Bishop’s late night show, and a local program known as Boss City. They also made guest appearances, curiously enough, on primetime hits like Mannix and The Girl From Uncle.



The print media did its part as well to raise awareness of the new music/countercultural scene. In September 1965, the nation’s premier newsweeklies, Time and Newsweek, “ran virtually simultaneous stories on the folk-rock craze,” just months after the first folk-rock release, the Byrd’s Mr. Tambourine Man, had climbed to the top of the charts. The country’s biggest daily newspapers chimed in as well, providing an inordinate amount of coverage of the emerging scene. By the end of 1967, the movement had its very own publication, Rolling Stone magazine. Initially designed to look as though it were a product of the underground press, it was, without question, very much a corporate mouthpiece.



Another avenue of the print media provided the scene with considerable exposure as well; as Einarson notes, many of the Laurel Canyon stars, particularly members of the Buffalo Springfield and the Monkees, were “the darlings of the California teen magazines,” including Teenset, Teen Screen, and Tiger Beat.



As the story is usually told, the 1960s countercultural movement posed a rather serious threat to the status quo. But if that were truly the case, then why was it the “pillars of the establishment,” to use Unterberger’s words, that launched the movement to begin with? Why was it ‘the man’ that signed and recorded these artists? And that heavily promoted them on the radio, on television, and in print? And that set them up with their very own radio station and their very own publication? And insured that new clubs sprung up like mushrooms along Sunset Boulevard so that all the new bands would have venues to play?



There are some readers, no doubt, who will say that this was simply a case of corporate America doing what it does so well: making a profit, off of anything and everything. Blinded by greed, the naysayers will claim, the corporate titans inadvertently created a monster. “Move along now folks, there’s nothing more to see here …”



The question that is begged by that explanation, however, is why, after it had become abundantly clear that a monster had allegedly been created, was nothing done to stop the growth of that monster? Why did the state not utilize its law enforcement and criminal justice powers to silence some of the most prominent countercultural voices? And why did the draft board – in every known case, without exception – allow those same voices to skip out on their military service?



It’s not as if the state would have had to resort to heavy-handed measures to silence these allegedly troublesome voices. Being that the vast majority of them were draft-age males who were openly using and/or advocating the use of illegal substances, they were practically begging for the powers-that-be to take action. And yet that never happened.



And now, while you ponder all of that, I’ll circle back around and tell the Buffalo Springfield story from the beginning, starting in 1945 when Stephen Arthur Stills was born to William and Talitha Stills. As John Einarson recounts in For What It’s Worth, Stephen’s “roots are firmly planted in Southern soil. His family traces its history back to the plantations of the rural antebellum South. After the Union armies laid waste to much of the Southern farm economy, the family relocated to Illinois.”



Einarson describes William Stills as “somewhat of a soldier of fortune, an engineer, builder, and dreamer who frequently uprooted the family to follow his dreams and schemes.” That is, I suppose, as good a definition as any for what he actually appears to have been: a military intelligence operative who was frequently on assignment in Central America. Stephen’s childhood was spent in Illinois, Texas, Louisiana, Florida, and various parts of Central America, including Costa Rica, El Salvador and the Panama Canal Zone.



At a fairly young age, he attended the Admiral Farragut Military Academy in St. Petersburg, Florida. In later years, his authoritarian manner and military bearing would earn him the nickname “The Sarge.” He joined his first band, the Radars, as a drummer. In his next band, the Continentals, he played the guitar, alongside another young guitarist named Don Felder, who would later turn up in Laurel Canyon as a member of the Eagles, but we’ll get to that later.



According to Einarson, “An unfortunate incident with the administration at his Tampa Bay high school resulted in Stephen’s dismissal in 1961, after which he joined his wayward family then settled in Costa Rica.” What that “unfortunate incident” may have been has been left to the reader’s imagination. In any event, Stephen’s next few years are rather murky. Some reports have him graduating from a high school in the Panama Canal Zone. Others have him shuffling back and forth between Florida and Central America. Stills himself has at times claimed that he served a stint in Vietnam. Whatever the case, in March of 1964 he surfaced in New Orleans with his sights set on a career in music.



By the summer of 1964, he had drifted to New York’s Greenwich Village, where he became fast friends with folkie Peter Torkelson, who was, like so many others in this story, a child of Washington, DC. The two played together briefly as a duo before Torkelson “migrated to Connecticut then Venezuela.” Nothing unusual about that, I suppose. Torkelson would soon show up in Laurel Canyon, as Monkee Peter Tork. Stills would also audition for the show, but his bad teeth and thinning hair would render him unfit for a leading role on prime-time TV.



In July 1964, Stills found work as one of the nine members of the Au Go-Go Singers, the newly-formed house band for New York’s famed Café Au Go-Go. Singing alongside of Stills was a young Richie Furay, the son of a pharmacist who had run a family drugstore in Yellow Springs, Ohio. Furay’s father died when Richie was just thirteen, as tends to happen from time to time in this story.



By November 1964, the Au Go-Go Singers already had an album out. But trouble soon arose, due primarily to the fact that the band was under contract to Morris Levy, a known organized-crime figure who would soon be indicted on an array of criminal charges. The band soon broke up and Furay headed off to Connecticut where a cousin got him a job at Pratt & Whitney. While working there, he took a little time off to audition for a slot in the Chad Mitchell Trio, but he was beat out by a military brat from Roswell named John Deutschendorf, later to become John Denver.



Stephen Stills, meanwhile, hung out in New York for a while longer before heeding the call of the Pied Piper and heading out to LA in August of 1965. That was the summer, according to Einarson, that “the epicenter of American rock’n’roll shifted coasts, Los Angeles replacing New York as the power base of the music industry.”



Richie Furay apparently soon found himself missing Stills but didn’t know how to reach his former bandmate, so he sent a letter to Stills’ dad in El Salvador, according to legend, and William Stills forwarded the message to Stephen. And what exactly, you may be wondering, was the elder Stills doing in El Salvador circa 1965/66? Details aren’t readily available, but as William Blum has duly noted in Killing Hope, “Throughout the 1960s, multifarious American experts occupied themselves in El Salvador by enlarging and refining the state’s security and counter-insurgency apparatus: the police, the National Guard, the military, the communications and intelligence networks, the coordination with their counterparts in other Central American countries … as matters turned out, these were the forces and resources which were brought into action to impose widespread repression and wage war.”



Meanwhile, up in Canada, Neil Young and Bruce Palmer were handling guitar and bass duties for the Mynah Birds. Neil Percival Kenneth Ragland Young was born on November 12, 1945 in Toronto to Scott Young, a sportswriter and novelist, and Edna “Rassy” Ragland, a Canadian television personality. Scott Young had spent a considerable amount of time abroad during World War II, first as a journalist and then as a member of the Royal Canadian Navy. Scott’s father (Neil’s grandfather), like Richie Furay’s, had been a pharmacist/drug store owner.



As Einarson recounts, “Neil Young and Stephen Stills had more in common than music. Both had grown up in transient families, Neil’s journalist father Scott uprooting his mother Edna ‘Rassy,’ Neil, and older brother Bob several times during Neil’s first 15 years.” Novelists, I’m guessing, need to move around a lot.



Just after his seventeenth birthday, Neil formed his first band, the Squires, and began playing local gigs. It was during those early years, according to legend, that Young and Stills first briefly crossed paths up in Canada. That meeting would, a couple years later, allegedly send Young and Palmer – also born in Toronto, to a violinist father and artist mother – off on a cross-country quest to find Stephen Stills.



The Mynah Birds, by the way, also at one time featured Nick St. Nicholas and Goldie McJohn, both of whom defected to a rival local band known as the Sparrows. The Sparrows, after a lead singer replacement, would morph into Steppenwolf. And Steppenwolf, like the other band spawned by the Mynah Birds, would migrate to – guess where? – Laurel Canyon.

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Part XVI
June 13, 2009



(... continued from Part XV )

At the time of the ‘serendipitous’ encounter on Sunset Boulevard, Stills was living at the home of Barry Friedman, a former circus clown, fire-eater, TV producer, and freelance publicist. To say that his home was a bit odd would probably be an understatement. According to folkie Nurit Wilde, “It had a bathtub in the middle of the living room and a secret room behind the bathroom where people carried on liaisons.” The massive bathtub sat right in front of the equally massive fireplace. As Friedman himself would later acknowledge, “This was a very strange house.”



Not strange by canyon standards, perhaps, but strange nonetheless. Stranger homes can certainly be found, such as in the Holly Mont neighborhood near the base of nearby Beachwood Canyon. One such home is described in the book Haunted Hollywood. The house isn’t actually haunted, of course, but it does contain some rather unusual features, as a past owner discovered: “the house’s most startling feature – a secret passageway behind a built-in bookshelf he’d discovered during remodeling. It connected to a series of subterranean tunnels linking several houses on the hillside … While exploring the tunnel beneath his house, Grey found a makeshift grave. The headstone read ‘Regina 1922.’”

Nothing weird about that, I suppose. Nor about the fact that the house pictured below, which sits right next-door, is also linked through the underground tunnel complex.

Anyway … as I was saying, Friedman had taken both Stills and Furay under his wing, providing them with a place to live and rehearse, doling out spending money, and introducing them to music industry contacts. Friedman was there when the fabled meeting took place, and it was to his home that the group adjourned after stopping on the Strip. It was also Friedman who found them their drummer, Walter Milton Dwayne Midkiff, otherwise known as Dewey Martin.

Friedman, as it turns out, was working for Byrds’ manager Jim Dickson, who also managed the Dillards. Dickson hooked Friedman up with Martin, and with a full slate of electric instruments, just as he had set the Byrds up with instruments and a bass player. Dickson and Friedman would soon become neighbors when Friedman moved from his odd house on Fountain Avenue to a home on Ridpath in – all together now! – Laurel Canyon.

That home, on 8524 Ridpath, would become a rather notorious party house. As Jackson Browne, who Friedman later took under his wing, recalled, “It was always open house at Paul Rothchild’s and Barry Friedman’s” (Paul Rothchild, for those who have forgotten, was the producer of the Doors, and in case I hadn’t mentioned it before, an ex-convict). Barney Hoskyns writes in Hotel California that “Friedman … orchestrated scenes of sexual and narcotic depravity that soon spun out of control.” Among the regular visitors was “a gaggle of girls who mainly lived at Monkee Peter Tork’s house” – which was also, as we all know, in Laurel Canyon.

Just a few doors down from Friedman, at 8504 Ridpath, lived Barry James, who also played a behind-the-scenes role in the success of the Byrds. Michael Ochs, brother of folk legend/self-professed CIA operative Phil Ochs, worked as James’ assistant. A very young Jackson Browne, fresh from the “imposing Browne family home in the tony, old-money neighborhood of Highland Park,” lived with James for a year, during which time Friedman worked to build a band around Browne. Toward that end, he recruited someone else who came from “old-money,” a kid by the name of Ned Doheny.

Most members of the Springfield also took up residence in our favorite secluded canyon. Richie Furay initially moved in with Mark Volman of the Turtles, who already had a place on Lookout Mountain Avenue. After marrying in March of 1967, Furay got his own place right on Laurel Canyon Boulevard. Neil Young, ever the recluse, found himself what has been described as a “shack” at 8451 Utica Drive. And Stills eventually moved into Peter Tork’s home, also on Laurel Canyon Boulevard. It is unclear whether Palmer and Martin took up residence in the canyon.


Martin was older than the rest of the band, having been born on September 30, 1940 in Ontario. In the very early 1960s, he served a brief stint in the U.S. Army, though he appears to have been, like Young and Palmer, a Canadian citizen. Go figure. Following that, as previously noted, he played with many country and rock legends before briefly joining up with the Dillards. With him added to the Springfield, the band was complete.


It wouldn’t stay that way for any length of time, however. Bruce Palmer had a habit of getting himself arrested on a regular basis, usually on drug charges. Some of those arrests led to deportations, since both he and Young were in the country illegally. He never seems to have had much trouble getting back into the country, however, and needless to say, none of his crimes seem to have actually been prosecuted in any meaningful way. But he did go missing on a fairly regular basis. During the band’s two-year run, Ken Koblun, Jim Fielder (formerly of Zappa’s Mothers of Invention), and Jim Messina all filled in on bass for varying lengths of time. And Doug Hastings filled in for a sometimes absent Neil Young, who had a habit of occasionally quitting the band, primarily due to ego clashes with The Sarge.

The band’s second single, recorded and mixed on December 5, 1966, and written just a couple weeks before, was released locally in December 1966 and nationally in early January 1967. It would be the group’s only hit single and it is remembered today as the quintessential protest song of the 1960s. That song, of course, is For What It’s Worth, the opening lines of which kicked off this series.

As a protest song, it must be said, it doesn’t quite measure up. First of all, despite what is commonly believed nowadays, the song is not a commentary on Vietnam War protests. Far from it. The event under consideration was the so-called Riot on the Sunset Strip, which involved about 1,000 kids who were demonstrating against the imposition of a curfew and the announcement that a popular club – Pandora’s Box, at 8118 Sunset Boulevard – was slated to be closed.


Pandora’s was a small coffee shop that featured poetry readings, folk music … and Laurel Canyon bands like Love and Buffalo Springfield. This caused a bit of a problem though, as the club sat on a traffic island at the intersection of Sunset and Crescent Heights (the gateway to Laurel Canyon), and overflow crowds would spill out onto the boulevard, blocking traffic. Even before the problems began, the building was scheduled to be demolished as part of a planned road-widening project.

Nevertheless, the announcement of its closing sparked a demonstration, and on the night of November 12, 1966, 200 cops squared off against perhaps 1,000 kids. The LAPD, being the LAPD, began cracking heads and arresting everyone in sight. Protestors responded by throwing rocks, setting a car ablaze, and attempting to ignite a bus. One month later, a song commemorating the event would be blaring from car radios across the city. Eight months after that, Pandora’s would be bulldozed.

Even if the song had been about anti-war protests, it still would be an odd choice for a protest song. Lyrics such as “Singing songs and carrying signs, mostly say hooray for our side,” seem to largely dismiss the concerns of protestors. And the line “nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong” seems to suggest that protestors are no better than that which they are protesting against.

Another curious irony about the song is that it was authored by Stephen Stills, aka The Sarge, an authoritarian, law-and-order kind of guy if ever there was one. Stills himself later heaped derision on the very notion of a protest song: “We didn’t want to do another song like For What It’s Worth. We didn’t want to be a protest group. That’s really a cop-out and I hate that. To sit there and say, ‘I don’t like this and I don’t like that’ is just stupid.”


Writing insipid pop ditties about Judi Collins, I suppose, was a much smarter course of action.

While For What It’s Worth is now the best-remembered ‘protest’ song of the 1960s, the most successful one at the time was Barry McGuire’s recording of P.F. Sloan’s The Eve of Destruction, which was also a curious choice for a ‘protest’ song, for reasons best explained by Paul Jones of the band Manfred Mann: “I think that Barry McGuire must have been paid by the State Department. The Eve of Destruction protests about nothing. It is simply a ‘Thy Doom at Hand’ song with no point.”

Yet another curious ‘protest’ song of the 1960s was Glen Campbell’s rendering of Buffy St. Marie’s anti-war standard, Universal Soldier. The very same Glen Campbell told Variety magazine that draft card burners “should be hung … If you don’t have enough guts to fight for your country, you’re not a man.” A young Bob Seger, meanwhile, penned and recorded Ballad of the Yellow Beret, a vicious put-down of draft dodgers, but that might be a bit off-topic.

Returning then to the Buffalo Springfield, I think it is safe to say that, to most music fans, there is a world of difference between a band like the Springfield and a band like the Monkees. That perception, however, is not necessarily accurate. As Unterberger has written, “there was not nearly as much gauche commercialism separating the Monkees and the bold Sunset Strip vanguard as is commonly believed. The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield, and Barry McGuire might have been landing hit records with social protest both gentle and incendiary, but they were tethered to a corporate media establishment in order to deliver those messages. On television’s Where the Action Is you could see the Byrds lip-synching The Bells of Rhymney in front of vacuous, grinning beach bunnies and muscle men cavorting on diving boards and plastic inner tubes. When Buffalo Springfield mimed to For What It’s Worth on The Smothers Brothers Show, they suffered the insertion of a shot of Tom Smothers pointing a gun at the camera during the line ‘there’s a man with a gun over there,’ to a burst of uproarious canned laughter.”

The ties between the bands actually ran far deeper than their mutual fondness for cheesy television appearances. Stephen Stills, it will be recalled, auditioned to be a Monkee, as did singer/songwriters Harry Nilsson and Paul Williams, and Danny Hutton of Three Dog Night. Stills and Tork remained close friends and frequently jammed together. Indeed, both Tork and fellow Monkee Mickey Dolenz joined the Springfield on stage at various local events. And Stills, Young and Dewey Martin all sat in on Monkees recording sessions.

On July 2, 1967, guitarist extraordinaire Jimi Hendrix played the Whisky and reportedly blew the roof off the place (figuratively speaking, that is). Shortly thereafter, he moved into Peter Tork’s house in Laurel Canyon. By the middle of July, Hendrix had joined the Monkees tour as their opening act. He was dropped after just a few dates, however, due to the fact that Monkees fans couldn’t quite wrap their heads around Jimi’s brand of music.

Throughout the summer of 1967, Stephen and Dewey’s Malibu home became the site of informal jam sessions involving Stephen Stills, Jimi Hendrix, Buddy Miles, David Crosby … and Monkee Peter Tork. Stills played bass, deferring lead guitar duties to Hendrix. All of them ultimately ended up living at Tork’s Laurel Canyon spread, which, as previously mentioned, featured a gaggle of young groupies who spent an inordinate amount of time lounging around the pool in various states of undress.

Those jam sessions, both in Malibu and Laurel Canyon, were undoubtedly fueled by massive amounts of LSD. According to an anonymous insider interviewed by John Einarson, “Owsley [editor’s note: remember him?] used to give Bruce [Palmer] baggies full of acid, a thousand tabs of purple. Somehow he befriended Bruce so we [the band and various hangers-on] never lacked for LSD.”

There was yet one more curious tie between the Monkees and the Springfield: while together in Chicago, unnamed members of both bands were allegedly immortalized by the notorious Cynthia Plaster Caster. Our old friend Frank Zappa would soon take Cynthia under his wing and relocate her to LA to continue her, uhmm, work, just as he had taken the nubile young women who would become the GTOs under his wing. It could reasonably be argued, I suppose, that Zappa did more than anyone to create one of the more peculiar artifacts of the 1960s: the super-groupie.

Ahmet Ertegun, by the way, played a key role in launching the career of Mr. Zappa, so much so that Frank named one of his sons after him. Meanwhile, Zappa’s shady manager, Herb Cohen, “was involved with the [Buffalo Springfield] financially … Stephen knew Herbie from New York,” according to Einarson. The Laurel Canyon crowd, to be sure, was a close-knit group – all the more so because so many of them seem to have known one another before arriving there.

Just a couple of weeks before Jimi’s Whisky debut, he had dazzled the crowd at the Monterey Pop Festival, where the band under review today, the Buffalo Springfield, had also played – though by most accounts, not very well. Neil Young was taking one of his leaves-of-absence from the band and Doug Hastings filled in on second lead guitar. In addition, Stills brought his buddy David Crosby out on stage to join the band, which by many accounts was a rather poor decision on Stephen’s part.

In For What It’s Worth, Einarson provides the following evaluation of Crosby’s performance: “His profile was so low key many took no notice of him there save for his ever-present black cowboy hat, and his musical contributions, both instrumentally and vocally, were barely audible.” Some of those who had been on stage with Crosby had a somewhat less charitable view. According to bassist Bruce Palmer, “Crosby stunk to high heaven. He didn’t know what he was doing … he was all ego. He came on for forty minutes and embarrassed us.” Guitarist Hastings agreed, explaining that Crosby’s “problem was that he couldn’t play rhythm guitar very well, though he thought he could … that was one of the reasons why we sounded so bad at Monterey.”

Has anyone noticed, by the way, that I am not a huge fan of David Crosby and that I seem to relish tossing in gratuitous quotes questioning his talents?

After spending the ‘Summer of Love’ jamming with members of both Jimi Hendrix’s Band of Gypsys and the Monkees, the Buffalo Springfield hit the road in November 1967 to begin a tour opening for the Beach Boys, a pairing nearly as odd as the Monkees and Jimi Hendrix. Bruce Palmer, whom we have already learned was not one to mince words, had this to say about the Beach Boys as a performing band: “They were real lousy musicians but they had terrific harmony and a name. They were a studio group. On stage it was like the Monkees. They would spend weeks and months in the studio with Brian Wilson perfecting harmonies and overdubs, but you put them on stage and they stunk.”

That tour included a stop, curiously enough, at West Point Military Academy, which is, as we all know, a regular stop on most rock tours. While on the road, the members of the Springfield formed a close bond with Dennis Wilson, a bond that would be built upon in April of 1968 when the Springfield again went out on tour with the Beach Boys. That tour was launched on April 5, almost two years to the day from the fabled meeting that allegedly forged the band. It was the last major tour the group would undertake.



Just after returning from the 1968 tour, Dennis Wilson bonded with another local musician, a guy by the name of Charlie Manson. When Dennis introduced his new friend Charlie to his buddies in the Buffalo Springfield, Neil Young in particular was quite smitten – so much so that he reportedly went to record mogul Mo Ostin and recommended that Ostin sign Charlie right away.



How many of you, by the way, were getting a little worried that Manson wasn’t going to make an appearance in this chapter of the Laurel Canyon saga?



On April 28, the band began playing its last series of local venues. On May 5, at the Long Beach Arena, the Buffalo Springfield played together as a band for the last time. They had been scheduled to play two shows that day, the first at a venue in Torrance (your fearless scribe’s hometown), but that earlier show never materialized.



The band released their third and final album, Last Time Around, some three months later. As with albums by the Byrds and the International Submarine Band, the Springfield’s final album is often cited as being a pioneering effort in the creation of the country-rock genre. It appears, by the way, that there wasn’t actually a single album that could be considered the ‘first’ country-rock album, since the three albums most frequently singled out for that distinction – the Byrd’s Sweetheart of the Rodeo, the International Submarine Band’s Safe at Home, and the Buffalo Springfield’s Last Time Around, were all released, curiously enough, within days of each other in July of 1968.



That was just one curious shift that occurred in the local music scene. The folk-rock movement, you see, didn’t really last very long in its original incarnation. It quickly splintered into three distinct new genres: country-rock, psychedelic rock, and the ‘introspective singer-songwriter’ school of folk-rock most closely associated with former mental patient James Taylor. None of these musical genres, notably, posed the slightest threat to the status quo. The navel-gazers eschewed social concerns in favor of focusing on tales of personal anguish, the acid rockers largely preached the mantra of ‘turn on, tune in, drop out,’ and the country-rockers largely stuck to traditional – which is to say, quite conservative – country music themes.



Following the breakup of the Buffalo Springfield, Richie Furay and sometime bassist Jim Messina went on to form the band Poco. Through various formations, the band was critically acclaimed but never had a great deal of commercial success. Jim Messina ultimately left to become half of Loggins and Messina; his replacement, Randy Meisner, went on to become an Eagle. A guy by the name of Gregg Allman, who played briefly with Poco during its formative days, went on to front the Allman Brothers.



Poco debuted at the Troubadour, which served as the breeding ground for the country-rock movement, in November 1968. Their first album, Pickin’ Up the Pieces, hit the shelves six months later, three months after the release of the debut album by country-rock rivals The Flying Burrito Brothers, formed by former Byrds Gram Parsons and Chris Hillman.



Byrd David Crosby, meanwhile, teamed up with the Springfield’s Stephen Stills and ex-Hollie Graham Nash (who had arrived in Laurel Canyon in December 1968 – and soon after moved in with Joni Mitchell) to form a band first known as the Frozen Noses, a name inspired by the trio’s fondness for cocaine. By the late 1960s, the drug that would later become the drug of choice of the disco crowd had already begun pouring into Laurel Canyon. As glam-rocker Michael DesBarres recalled, “Every drug dealer was in Laurel Canyon.” Along with the drugs came lots of guns and huge piles of cash. Before long, according to Laurel Canyon chronicler Michael Walker, “cocaine became a pseudo-currency, like cigarettes in prison.”



A decade later, the world would catch a glimpse of that dark canyon undercurrent when four battered bodies were bagged and removed from a house on Wonderland Avenue … but we’ve already covered that.



The newest Laurel Canyon band, of course, was quickly renamed Crosby, Stills & Nash, and by the summer of 1969, they had the top selling album in the country. It would remain on the charts for an unprecedented two years. When the band got ready to hit the road though, there was a little problem; given that Stills was the only serious musician in the band, and it was he who had played virtually all the instruments on that debut album, it was going to be difficult, as Barney Hoskyns noted, “to translate their layered studio sound to the stage.” The solution was, as Einarson has written, to bring Neil Young on board, “to provide more umph to their live sets.” And so it was that by the end of the year, CSN had become CSNY.



Now the band just needed a rhythm section. Dallas Taylor, who had played on sessions for the first album, was recruited as a permanent drummer. Stills and Young summoned Bruce Palmer to come down from Canada to handle bass duties. According to Palmer, however, that didn’t work out, primarily because once he got to LA and “started rehearsing at Stephen’s house with Crosby and Nash, it became real evident that they were nothing but backup singers. They didn’t like it and decided to change it. They couldn’t take that; they thought they were too big, too famous, too talented. They weren’t talented, they were backup singers … It looked to them as if it was Crosby and Nash backing up Buffalo Springfield, being nothing more than harmony singers for Stephen, Neil, myself, and Dallas Taylor.”



According to Palmer, the first CSN album was “95 percent Stephen doing everything and he’s got his backup singer boys with him. He’s been dragging them around with him for 25 years.” Considering that Stills composed the majority of the material, played most of the instruments, and produced and arranged the album, Palmer’s assessment seems a reasonable one. In any event, CSNY didn’t last too long, dissolving after their 1970 tour. Stills next recruited the ubiquitous Chris Hillman to form Manassas, which also proved to be short-lived. Not long after, David Geffen teamed Hillman with Richie Furay and J.D. Souther to create the Souther, Hillman, Furay Band, which was supposed to be the second coming of CSN but which also proved to be short-lived. During the band’s brief tenure, our old friend Phil Kaufman was on hand to serve as road manager.



Crosby, Stills and Nash was not the only Laurel Canyon band to release a debut album in 1969. Three Dog Night, mentored by Beach Boy Brian Wilson, released their self-titled debut in January, and in June, a psychedelic rock band from the LC issued its first LP. Throughout 1968, the band, then known as Nazz, was a regular presence on the Sunset Strip, where they gained a reputation for being heavy on the theatrics but light on the musicianship.



The band was fronted by Vincent Furnier, the boyfriend of Miss Christine of the GTOs. Miss Pamela, aka Pamela Des Barres, described Furnier as “a rich kid from Phoenix.” A staunch supporter of the colonial occupation of Vietnam (isn’t it time we stopped calling these things ‘wars’?), Vince would later become a golf partner of uber-conservative Senator Barry Goldwater.



Furnier would soon change his own name, and the name of his band, to Alice Cooper, after deciding that he was the reincarnation of a witch who purportedly lived in the seventeenth century. Our old friend Frank Zappa signed the band and its debut album, Pretties For You, was the first release on Zappa’s Straight label. After transforming into a shock-rock band, the group would hit it big a few years later with the release of School’s Out.



Cooper had a curious connection to another rather eccentric canyon character: Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. In later years, both Cooper and Wilson would receive ‘treatment’ from a certain Dr. Eugene Landy, whose handling of Wilson would become quite controversial. According to various sources close to Wilson, Landy quickly took control of virtually all aspects of Brian’s life.



On October 19, 1978, academy award-winning actor Gig Young and his fifth wife, Kim Schmidt, were found shot through the head in their New York City apartment. The 64-year-old Young – raised, as would be expected, in Washington, DC – had just married the young art gallery worker three weeks earlier. There was no note found and no one close to the pair could come up with a motive for either to commit suicide, so the incident naturally was written off as a murder/suicide. Young had just taped an episode of the Joe Franklin television show that day and he presumably had given no indication that anything was amiss. The show never aired.



One other curious side note: at the time of the murder/suicide, Young was receiving ‘treatment’ from Eugene Landy.



As for the original members of the Buffalo Springfield, Stephen Stills and Neil Young are still known to perform at times. Richie Furay founded the Cavalry Chapel near Boulder, Colorado, where he still serves today as senior pastor. Bruce Palmer died of a heart attack on October 1, 2004. And Dewey Martin was apparently found dead by his roommate just a few months ago, on February 1, 2009. No published reports have given a cause of death. He had been living, curiously enough, in an apartment in Van Nuys, California, just a fifteen-minute drive from the home of your favorite scribe.



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interesting versions of Smells Like Teen Spirit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF7sZZF1Hu0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQRZGJrzcaw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN75im_us4k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnVUwH2eOHs

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interesting versions of Smells Like Teen Spirit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF7sZZF1Hu0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQRZGJrzcaw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN75im_us4k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnVUwH2eOHs

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Ex-detective's occult expertise sought in Farmville slayings
Posted to: Crime News

Don Rimer is retired from the Beach police, has trained law enforcement agencies in a number of states and speaks to churches and civic groups about ritual crime and the occult.

By Patrick Wilson
The Virginian-Pilot
© September 27, 2009

VIRGINIA BEACH

Pentagrams, goat heads, the Church of Satan. Don Rimer knows a lot about such things.

The retired Beach police detective is an expert on occult crime and has been called by Virginia State Police to go to Farmville to help analyze the deaths of four people whose bodies were discovered Sept. 18 in the small college town west of Richmond.

"I'm sure they want me to help them understand what they have.... This is a unique case for them," Rimer said. "They're going to be asking me a lot of questions."

Richard Alden Samuel McCroskey III, 20, of Castro Valley, Calif., was arrested Sept. 19 at Richmond International Airport and has been charged in the killings of his girlfriend, Emma Niederbrock, 16; her parents, Longwood University professor Debra Kelley and estranged husband Mark Niederbrock, and Emma's friend Melanie Wells, 18.

Their bodies were found in Debra Kelley's house in Farmville. A week before their deaths, the four victims had gone to a music festival in Michigan that featured "horrorcore" artists performing music about raping, killing and mutilating people.

"This isn't the first crime where people have died because of getting involved in things that deal with dangerous elements," Rimer said. "Unfortunately, the girls were involved in a very dangerous kind of music. This is not your routine heavy metal... really way beyond Marilyn Manson or that kind of thing."

Rimer, 63, retired from the Police Department in 2005 after 33 years. Since then, he has trained law enforcement agencies and spoken publicly about ritual crime and the occult. He first got interested in 1986, when Virginia Beach experienced some grave robberies and animal mutilations.

Rimer will be part of occult training in Virginia Beach for law enforcement officers next month, which was scheduled prior to the slayings in Farmville.

In the Farmville case, as a rapper with the stage name "Syko Sam," McCroskey had recorded songs about killing people.

He told a cab driver who took him to the Richmond airport that he had looked at Emma Niederbrock's phone while he was visiting and became angry after seeing a text message from another performer who told her he loved her, The Associated Press reported Saturday.

Andres Shrim, owner of Serial Killin Records in Rio Rancho, N.M., contacted Farmville police on Sept. 18 and told them he believed McCroskey could be responsible for homicides.

Rimer has looked at the Web sites of Serial Killin Records, also known as SKR, and said the content is relevant to the investigation.

A flier for the "Strictly for the Wicked" festival in Michigan shows a goat's head and "666" in a pentagram.

"The images that immediately stood out were the pentagram, which is the international symbol of the Church of Satan," he said. "That's the poster for the concert that mom and dad took the girls to."

A female artist promoted by SKR professes to be a Satanist. Her MySpace page has an image of a human-looking figure ripping a fetus from its abdomen. The figure is wearing a crown with a pentagram and holding a spear with a head impaled on it. Web fliers indicate the artist was a performer at the Michigan festival.

Teenagers, already curious and prone to depression, are susceptible to such images and music, Rimer said.

"If you listen to something that talks about killing and rape and murder and suicide, which this music does, your mind catalogs those lyrics whether you like it or not," he said.

"They surround themselves with peers that feel the same way, and they surround themselves with angry, depressing music. If we allow them to do that, then we have a huge problem."

Debra Kelley was a criminal justice professor and her husband was a Presbyterian minister.

Rimer said the parents may have been trying to support their daughter while keeping a close eye on her by driving her to Michigan, where she met up with McCroskey.

"Everybody needs to know this topic so that we can try to prevent what happened in Farmville," Rimer said.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Patrick Wilson, (757) 446-2957, patrick.wilson@pilotonline.com

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Don Rimer is interviewed on blogtalkradio:

audio:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/TalkForensics/2009/07/05/Don-Rimer-Ritual-Crime-and-Occult-Expert

Don Rimer: Ritual Crime and Occult Expert

Date: July 5th, 2009

Don Rimer is a retired, 33-year veteran of the Virginia Beach, Virginia Police Department. He currently serves as the Public Information officer and Chaplain for the Virginia Gang Investigators Association. He is an internationally recognized authority on Ritual Crime and the Occult. He serves as an investigator and consultant to agencies throughout the United States and Canada. Since 1986, he has spoken to more than 2,500 schools, churches, civic groups, and professional organizations.

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video:

http://www.youtube.com/user/theindustryexposed#play/user/9AB9FC8DFCE80143

The Industry Part 1

explore the music industry and the secrets it holds.....

Website: http://illuminatimusic.8m.com/

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early photo of a young (and alluring) Kurt Cobain and Krist Novoselic together, with Kurt perched on big Krist's knee(Cobain was likely 18 or so here, and Krist about 20)

this would have been around the time that Cobain and Krist spraypainted
things like 'GOD IS GAY', 'abort christ', and 'homo sex rules' around Aberdeen

video:
Kurt Cobain's Own Private Idaho:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrFSmOlXrMg

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Re: My Own Private Idaho ( I da ho: as in "I da hoh, bro?") ) being based on the addicted, narcoleptic Kurt Cobain, I found this interesting
information on the writing and making of the film. In the original screenplay by Gus Van San, the script and part for the main character Mike (played by River Phoenix) was written originally as the character being a heroin using, narcoleptic street kid with dreams of making it big as a rock star.


The kid that recounts the rape tale is a real 'street kid' ( his real name is Mike Parker) who was originally going to play River Phoenix's character 'Mike Waters'. Keanu Reeves character was initially also to be played by a real hustler and friend of Gus Van Sants', named Scott. Van Sant wanted Reeves and Phoenix and sent them scripts directly, as he knew agents wouldn't put them through due to the content, and both actors said 'yes' (obviously) so the original choices, Scott and Mike Parker, were demoted to 'street kid' roles.

http://img153.imagevenue.com/loc1041/th_68213_myownprivateidaho_122_1041lo.jpg

Just to clarify also, the parts were not written based on the real hustlers lives. Van Sant gave the characters the same first name of the boys who were originally to play them.

interesting related video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrFSmOlXrMg

http://img146.imagevenue.com/loc824/th_68438_myownprivateidaho2_122_824lo.jpg
Mike Parker

Mike parker (the guy who recounts the "I was raped with a wine bottle" story) speaks a little about this in a documentary called 'This Road will never End'.

Part I of that documentary is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO3abs0X-Mo

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interesting video with mind control theme:

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNkCL-ZUcw4&feature=related

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Inside The Sex Club For Girls
Why are educated and affluent young women flocking to join a secret society that hosts anything-goes sex parties?

From The Sunday Times
March 15, 2009

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00502/Killing_Kittens_502021a.jpg

Camilla asked me first. “Would you go to Killing Kittens?” she said, curling her long legs into her chest conspiratorially and squaring her large green eyes up to mine. She had heard about the club, an exclusive members-only sex club run by and targeted at women and couples, and held in opulent splendour — a business that sells itself as a playpen for “the world’s sexual elite”. “Absolutely not,” I said, wondering when it became the norm for a night with the girls to end in a three-way with a criminal barrister and a Fulham blonde in an edible playsuit. “I’d never do anything like that.” And, before I could catch myself, I added a resounding “ever”.

But, since that question, I’d been approached by friends giggling into drinks, or confiding in me over supper, four times. All these girls are public-school products: intelligent, beautiful, high-flying. Girls I thought would dismiss out of hand the concept of going to a club to, as far as I could grasp, dress up, titillate and have sex with numerous men and women. Nonetheless, a month later I’m in a silky pink dress and a sparkling eye mask, surrounded by women in a towering Mayfair mansion ticking my name off the guest list on a table strewn with condoms and — bizarrely — Quality Street chocolates. I got in not, sadly, because I am in any way “sexually elite”, but because the club is run by Emma Sayle, an old roommate of mine from school — now a 30-year-old, 6ft blonde business entrepreneur, but back then a super-bright, sporty girls’ girl.

A week earlier, I’d caught up with her in a London cafe to try and grasp what she was up to.

If I had got the basics right — that she had chosen to profit from women by creating an environment for them to have sex with men — then this didn’t tally with the girl I knew at all. She explained the club rules, rules shared by Belle Baise, a similar "swinging" club based in Nottingham. Members — single women and couples from an AB demographic, but no single men — have to be conventionally good-looking; they must arrive masked, a man can’t get in unless he’s taken there by a woman; if a woman doesn’t bat her lashes and lead him away for a spot of “playing” then there’s not much he can do but watch. Even this he has to do in a couple, as parties have minders circulating to ensure there aren’t any lone males perving quietly in a corner. No drugs — you get thrown out if you’re found taking them. No cameras or mobile phones — this is a strictly secret event, so much so that the location of the venue is only released the day before a party — which makes it somewhat odd that she has allowed the Sunday Times Magazine photographer in at all.

No, she says, means no, and although women can wear whatever they like, men have to scrub up — no trainers and no T-shirts. Even male film stars, most recently Sienna Miller’s ex, Rhys Ifans, get turned away if they’re not in the right kit. But Sayle appears uninterested in her celebrity clientele — she explains that Ifans, along with the Premier League footballer seen bouncing two female “elves” on each knee at the “Santa’s Little Helpers” Christmas party last year, are of no use to her. “They are guys, and the party is not about guys,” she says. “It’s also not about walking into a club and seeing a famous person. It’s about women — not alpha females who storm up to men — but feminine and sensual ones who can go and dance around in their underwear and drink with no pressure and no expectations, just free to feel sexy and have fun.” This “girls make the rules and only girls can break the rules” ethos certainly seems to work for many of the ones who go. Much of the feedback is positive. Wildly so. “For me, it’s a bit of a journey,” explains a recent female convert.

“It’s great to be able to see women wandering around, feeling empowered and gorgeous, and wearing what they like and not being judged for it. If you go to a club and you’re wearing a foxy outfit, the chances are you’ll have guys pawing you and going ‘All right, darlin’?’ Whereas these parties are respectful — it’s a completely different vibe.” For some.

I recall at school, as the daughter of a diplomat, Sayle had a reassuringly international, carefree, nonjudgmental air about her. That she went into business was no surprise — she has an eye for spotting a niche and the self-belief to go for it — but it’s harder to associate this churchgoing girl with the dubious machinations of the sex industry. She says her experiences of working in the City as a financial PR shaped her thinking. “In my twenties I had an arsehole, sexist boss who would tell me to wear a short skirt the next day in order to win business,” she says.

“I felt myself getting less and less feminine and wearing looser and looser clothes to avoid derogatory remarks. I basically felt like a piece of meat and no one had any interest in my brain.”

When the HR department turned a blind eye, she left her job and took herself out of the City scene altogether, freelancing first as a fitness PR, then as an entertainment PR. After taking on the Erotica show as a client, she started doing PR for up-market swinging parties, which she describes as “run by sleazy guys and not aimed at women”. She saw a niche in a very feminine crowd.

The Killing Kittens website captures Sayle’s sales pitch: there’s her skimpy, Janet Reger-designed underwear range, Naughty Janet; there’s a “Dungeon Break” in a West Yorkshire mansion costing £3,000 to get manacled up in a fully equipped dungeon for the weekend; a “Kidnap Experience” — very popular, apparently — offering an adrenaline-inducing “real-life kidnap scenario” lasting up to 12 hours, with an optional transgender makeover — for £3,500; and a “Mini Mile-High Experience” for an hour’s satisfaction in a private jet for about the same price.

So, who is this attracting? The liberated female sexual elite or the more ordinarily desperate and seedy? The Killing Kittens website got 10,000 "unique" visitors last month and club membership, which is 80% female, rose in line with City redundancies. It increased from 5,000 in November to more than 6,000 by the end of last year. Sayle estimates that 70% of these are privately educated. And it’s not just Londoners or foreigners based in London. Around 30% come from the rest of the UK, or hop over from Europe for the weekend — demand that is taking the company up to Edinburgh and overseas, with Paris a distinct possibility and a club opening in New York at the end of the year. Not bad for a company that surfaced 3Å years ago, charges a fair whack (£150 per couple per party with 20 parties a year — or £300 a year and parties at half-price) and narrows its members to the world’s 18- to 45-year-old “sexual elite”. And, thanks to Tash, a tubby blonde in Leeds with a crack eye for deviants, Botox and Z-list Eurotrash, there is a ruthless refusal rate of one in three. As hopefuls have to fill in an extensive application form detailing, among other things, their sexual preferences, there is also a waiting list of hundreds.

Much of the club’s success seems to lie in the eagerness of a few of its filthy-rich members, male and female, to open up their vast London pads to the party nights — some, it seems, without actually realising they have. A pretty blonde recalls a recent “Doctors and Nurses” party at a vast five-floor — swimming pool included — West End venue. A doddery 70-year-old man was wandering around looking totally bemused as his gorgeous young wife — who had offered their home as the venue — wandered around in a nurse’s outfit liberally administering fake injections with a plastic toy syringe and putting stickers on people.

The party I sneaked into was a masked ball at a Mayfair address — again, the home of one of the members: an enormous 18th-century mansion with a vast stone staircase, soaring pastel-green walls and a delicate cupola arching overhead. I took along another Killing Kittens virgin, Sophie, a posh, leggy ex-model, and her equally beautiful boyfriend. And, as we waited in the hall, a pretty brunette politely inquired whether her Ferrari would be safe outside. This isn’t your regular Saturday-night crowd. These predominantly high-flying public-school products — many attracted by the shield of secrecy around the event — are an exclusive, self-regulating set who complain vociferously on the members’ website if they think someone doesn’t make the grade. But, as one member explains, women don’t wander around in a “f*** you, you can’t touch me” kind of way. They think: “Yes, I know I’m gorgeous and I might play with you later, and gosh, you’re lovely.” It’s not an arrogant thing, apparently: “You get to feel sexual and be sexual and express yourself, and wear those clothes without the risk and the hassle of blokes coming up to you and annoying you and pawing at you.”

Fair enough, but with the rules the way they are, will there be men there at all? Sayle says that although lots of many "slightly" bi-curious girls come in groups — not necessarily to get “gang-banged senseless” but to have a fun night out — the ratio stays pretty constant at 60:40 or 70:30, just enough testosterone reduction to make it “much more relaxed”.

It’s hard not to gawp. For those whose worlds don’t stretch to strap-on-dildo-flaunting semi-naked men and steely-bunned girls in silky suspenders sauntering around with a glass of bubbly in one hand and a johnny in the other, this is mesmerising. I’m told that the beginning of the evening is for mingling, a bit of “chitchat”, a glass of champagne, and for picking out people to introduce yourself to. I turned to the woman next to me — a trout-lipped Venezuelan pole-dancer in a black sequined Onesie, ostrich feathers and a luminous pink wig.

“Hello.”
“ ’Ello darrrleeeng.”

“Do you, er… come here often?”
“I come all the time.”

“Um, really?”
“Yees. Of course.”

“Oh…”

“You like to faaaack? I love faaaaaaacking. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t bother, and you…” she faltered, eyeing me up and down carefully. “You are… naaaaice, but…” And, nodding apologetically, she teetered off.

I found Sophie batting off female suitors by the bar and getting increasingly frustrated with a porcelain-skinned beauty in her twenties, who was using all her charms to convince her that all she really wanted to do was get in the buff and start swinging — seemingly on behalf of her equally eager boyfriend, who had beelined Sophie from the outset. The boyfriend, a bald, gangly, late-thirty-something man who, it turned out, lives in the house with a handful of other men who all met at these parties, was selectively dishing out small black plastic rings. These — I found out when I didn’t receive one — were the passport to his room. Only the “elite elite” get them. These girls, I discovered when I grabbed Sophie’s ring and made it past the man guarding the door, have the dubious pleasure of being home-videoed, sky-clad, romping in high-Georgian splendour on his gigantic, damask-draped four-poster bed. Surely this was flagrant rule-breaking? I mentioned it to Sayle. She sounded surprised, but not particularly shocked. “I’ll have a word,” she said. There was something else striking about the scene. The decor, the ambience, the bed, it conjured another era — a scene from a 19th-century orgy perhaps, as if the bourgeois had thrown open their doors. The difference here is in the sales pitch. This party isn’t men paying women for sex; this is a woman saying to other women: “Pay me and you can come and have sex with women — and men.”

Rather than being a fast-track for gold-diggers, however, it appears these girls may be out of luck. “No self-respecting man would be seen dead with a member of those parties,” says a male friend. This makes Sayle roll her eyes. “Five of my friends are in serious relationships with girls they met at a Killing Kittens night,” she says.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/relationships/article5887631.ece

[runciter]

interesting video with mind control theme:

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNkCL-ZUcw4&feature=related

i'm quoting this post just to make the video reappear.

maybe the safest thing to do is to post both the embedded clip and an "old style" link :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNkCL-ZUcw4&feature=player_embedded

[hunkahunka]

this is an insightful and convincingly detailed analysis of the ritual symbolism
at the 2009 Video Music Awards.(including a masonic initiation ceremony
and a blood sacrifice)

The 2009 VMAs: The Occult Mega-Ritual :

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2191

[hunkahunka]

http://www.thegully.com/essays/gaymundo/queerimg6/cross_burning2.jpg

Clues in the Heart Shaped Box video, that Cobain may have
been recovering memories of secret ritual activity from his
childhood.

http://www.mcb.com.hk/online2/image/upload/215/anton_nirvana.jpg
note the crows on what might seem to be a crucifix
http://designarchives.aiga.org/img/media/13390_m.jpg
the crows identify it as possibly a scarecrow frame or burnt sacrifice
structure

- may tie in with pagan ritual sacrifice. (as the makers of the film
Zeitgeist painstakingly illustrated, christianity blended pagan
traditions, rituals, and dates together as it took hold) note the Pope's hat
(mitre)

http://musique.portail.free.fr/clips-videos/nouveautes/10-11-2008/nirvana-heart-shaped-box/1930-5s-430x360-Cropped.jpg

http://designarchives.aiga.org/img/media/13390_m.jpg

(note the little girl with the KKK/Bohemian Grove ritual hood and robe,
with the face cover hanging at the back. This child could symbolize the
childhood of cobain , who, by some accounts, may have been raised as a blonde girl in early childhood)

this still from the video is interesting in that it may contain clues
to ritual secrets that Cobain was hinting at, but too afraid to directly reveal.

Consider for a moment who is the more likely to be a satanist, a christian or an atheist?
A scientific rationalist/existentialist/atheist forgoes a belief in anything that cannot be directly proven to exist. Therefore atheists, by definition, would not believe in the existence of satan, let alone worship satan as a deity.

Would it be too much to consider for a moment that is christians who believe in the existence of both jesus and satan? and...

Can we then consider that the believers in the existence of satan
are most likely to be satanists?

Could it be then that there are sects who practice active worship of both jesus and satan?

Could that be what this picture is depicting?

http://designarchives.aiga.org/img/media/13390_m.jpg

http://www.sjb.k12.nf.ca/grassroots/holocaust/other/hategroups/pic-burningcross.gif

continued..

[greydove]

this is an insightful and convincingly detailed analysis of the ritual symbolism
at the 2009 Video Music Awards.(including a masonic initiation ceremony
and a blood sacrifice)

The 2009 VMAs: The Occult Mega-Ritual :

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2191

the site appears to be gone :(

[hunkahunka]

Is it too much to consider then the duality of 'christian conservatives' meeting at a place like Bohemian Grove? A Baptist Jimmy Carter, for example, also a member of the Bohemian Club. Or the duality of even a Reverend Jim Jones, who began as Methodist minister and recruited members for his huge Californian Peoples Temple sect from among the Methodists? L. Frank Baum, author of the Wizard of Oz, was originally a Methodist who became an Episcopalian. Judy Garland's homosexual father was an Episcopalian.

Could there be a hidden side or sect of the Methodists linked to Oz trauma programming and human sacrifice?

http://www.churchofelduce.com/church%20of%20el%20duce2.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/422123946_08358c1787.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj94/violators_world/nirvana/wickedwitch.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9112/wizardofzwitchmelt2.jpg

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/images/wizardofzwitchmelt8.JPG

http://www.metrolyrics.com/images/albums/189193729Scarling_SoLongScarecrow.jpg

http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/bohemian-prez.jpg

http://boba.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/burning_man.jpg


http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj94/violators_world/nirvana/cubecross.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://stopannoyingme.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/kkk-rainbow.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1295/kukluxcatholic.gif
Roman Catholic priests in vatican ceremony

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/179/452834903_61391f3711.jpg
Seville Holy Week in Spain

http://www.archimadrid.es/jesusmedinaceli/nazarenos.jpg
Nazarenos

http://www.barriosantacruz.com/apartamentos/nazarenos.jpg
SEMANA SANTA DE SEVILLA 2009

http://www.terra.es/personal2/rubensb/fotos07/nazarenos.jpg

http://zapatopi.net/blog/bgc-cremation_of_care.jpg
cremation of care hooded ritual near Santa Rosa
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b215/ecassity/cremationn.jpg

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/june2005/070605bgrove1.jpg

http://musicaretro.castpost.com/nirvana%20-%20heart%20shaped%20box.mpg.jpg
Santa hat

[hunkahunka]

http://www.sevenseasresort2.com/Images/prev42.jpg
wizard

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9112/wizardofzwitchmelt2.jpg
of oz











http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/bohemian-prez.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://geoconger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/schori.jpg
National leader of the Episcopalian Church, lesbian Bishop Katharine Jefferts

http://www.anglicancommunion.org/_userfiles/Image/full/acns4292af.jpg

"I always thought a punk was someone who took it up the ass"- William Burroughs

[hunkahunka]

just out of curiosity I did a few internet searches

one with the terms: 'Episcopal Wizard of Oz'
another with: ' Episcopal Alice in Wonderland'
another: Methodist Wizard of Oz
another: Methodist Alice in Wonderland
another Episcopal school Wizard of Oz
another Methodist school Wizard of Oz

try it and see the huge number of links that come up about plays
and events and skits and readings etc. being held at Methodist & Episcopalian
churches and schools. It is mind boggling. There are too many to post here.

Or do image searches with the same terms. You will find a TON of things
like this:

Monday, November 26, 2007

Alice In Wonderland Performance
You Are Invited!

Date: November 30th
Time: 7:00 PM
Location: Salem United Methodist Church
Selbyville Public Library presents a performance of Alice in Wonderland by the First State Children's Theater!

It's FREE and fun for all ages

[hunkahunka]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_in_Wonderland_syndrome

Alice in Wonderland syndrome

Alice in Wonderland syndrome (AIWS, named after the novel written by Lewis Carroll), also known as Todd's syndrome[1], is a disorienting neurological condition which affects human perception. Sufferers may experience micropsia, macropsia, and/or size distortion of other sensory modalities. A temporary condition, it is often associated with migraines, brain tumors, and the use of psychoactive drugs. It can also present as the initial sign of the Epstein-Barr Virus (see infectious mononucleosis). Anecdotal reports suggests that the symptoms of AIWS are fairly common in childhood, with many people growing out of them in their teens. It appears that AIWS is also a common experience at sleep onset.

[hunkahunka]

any thread referencing the Heart Shaped Box video should actually contain the video, so here it is.

the way this video is arranged is interesting, with footage of Cobain
singing the song Heart Shaped Box, seemingly enraged, and intercut with flashes of what could be the source of his rage; recovered memories of
traumatic ritual abuse. You see in the video hanging fetuses, a man crucified, ritual robes, and angel/butterfly symbolism throughout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK7Ai9dWrRQ

Note too that Cobain's original concept for this video was to have the aging William Burroughs, aged 80 at the time, play the role of the old man, and the role of the Burroughs character, according to Cobain's script idea, was to simulate the anal rape of Cobain, and die while ejaculating his life force into Cobain.

We can assume this may have been intended by Cobain to be an homage to Burroughs, a way of stating that Burroughs spirit would live in on the younger Cobain, who by all accounts revered Burroughs as a mentor.
Burroughs declined to appear in the video, so the end result, instead, was the video that you see posted above.

The Burroughs/Cobain rape scene may have been planned as just part of the original montage that you see in the video posted here, what could be a montage, or collage, as discussed previously, of flashbacks/recovered memories of childhood traumatic ritual abuse:
ie:
-human sacrifice rituals,
-dead fetuses/baby sacrifice
- drug infused hallucinations (assuming that a great deal of such abuse is experienced while under the forced influence of various hallucinogenic mushrooms/chemicals/narcotics)

This could explain the 'psychedelic' nature of the setting that Cobain chooses for the video.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj94/violators_world/nirvana/heart_shaped_box.jpg
note the coffin like-black box reminiscent of the line "I've been locked inside your heart shaped box for weeks" (a possible reference to sensory deprivation/live burial ritual/ near death trauma)

Also among the grotesque imagery is that of the old man sustained
by an IV composed dead fetus blood/cells:

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj94/violators_world/nirvana/IV_baby.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj94/violators_world/nirvana/wickedwitch.jpg

This would appear to be a play on the same concept of life force sacrificed to be passed onto another, only in reverse.

In Cobain's original concept for the video , the old man's life force was to be ritualistically passed from old to young, in a 'shades of Alex Crowley sex magik' kind of way.

When Burroughs declined, that idea/scene was presumably scrapped and replaced, instead, with the image of the old man being crucified in some sort of ritualistic pagan/KKK cannibalistic cross-roasting ceremony. Again the same concept of passing the life force of the old to the young.

But in Cobain's final production, you see also this depiction of the young (fetal) life force sacrificed in passing to the old:

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj94/violators_world/nirvana/IV_baby.jpg

The ritual sacrifice of expendables, [ (expendables being the extremely old (invalids/the dying), and the extremely young (fetuses, sperm, eggs, zygotes)] may be the underlying theme, and source, of Cobain's traumatic recovered memories. All with the underlying theme of cannibalism.

quote:




http://thestygianport.blogspot.com/2009_01_01_archive.html

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj94/violators_world/nirvana/pierced_heart.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj94/violators_world/nirvana/blue_butterflys.jpg

The blue butterflies, mentioned above when the girls outfit changes to black, point back to an old post of mine about Monarch mind control programming which states:

Older victims were frequently tattooed for easy identification with a "so-called" Blue or other colored monarch butterfly. This practice became more or less obsolete in the early 1970's and was replaced by the victim wearing butterfly hair barrettes, large butterfly ear rings, pins, necklaces, bracelets, or embroidered insignias to "advertise" their art of expertise to knowledgeable abusers. This rule applies to 100% of the victims interviewed. - outpost-of-freedom.com

[hunkahunka]

Quote:
Nicole Richie’s baby shower went off without a hitch in Beverly Hills yesterday. Richie’s mom, sister, and pals Paris Hilton and Masha Gordon played host to the Wizard of Oz themed shower. The party included life-size replicas of Dorothy, the scarecrow, the Wicked Witch of the West, the tinman and the lion. There was even a Wizard of Oz cake. Which begs the question – “why?” Kind of a kooky little theme, don’t you think?

Guests included Lauren Conrad and DJ Samantha Ronson (frequent pal of Lindsay Lohan) – in all, there were 90 guests. Richie has five more baby showers planned.
http://tv.popcrunch.com/nicole-richi...z-baby-shower/

interesting that Cobain's daughter Frances recently blogged an attack
rant on Lohan's sister:
http://trak.in/news/kurt-cobains-daughter-blasts-ali-lohan-on-twitter/12426/


also, unbelievable as it may seem, the following was reported by multiple, as in MANY, internet media sources:

Tim Burton offered Frances Bean Cobain the role of Alice in his upcoming
film Alice in Wonderland.


Frances Bean Cobain turned down role in Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland


The teenaged daughter of Courtney Love and late Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain was reportedly courted by director Tim Burton to star in his screen adaptation of 'Alice in Wonderland.' But she turned it down to focus on her education.

The teenaged daughter of Courtney Love and late Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain was reportedly courted by director Tim Burton to star in his screen adaptation of 'Alice in Wonderland.' But she turned it down to focus on her education.

17-year-old Frances Bean Cobain was considered to star in the title role, alongside Johnny Depp, Anne Hathaway and Helena Bonham Carter.

But a source is said to have told the UK's Mail on Sunday that Cobain rejected the part.
'Tim thought she would be perfect,' said the source, 'but she wants to go to university. She's incredibly focused and sensible.'

The role of Alice went to newcomer Mia Wasikowska. The film is set for a March 2010 release.

also in the works is a new Syfy miniseries called 'Alice', a science fiction
version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbvt1_ug0iQ&feature=related

This is the trailer for the new mini series from the award wining team that brought us "Tin Man" this new series premiers in december on the SYFY channel.


quote:
http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/6767

A First Look At Syfy's 'Alice'
Stars Caterina Scorsone, Kathy Bates, Matt Frewer and Colm Meaney
By MICHAEL HINMAN Oct-10-2009
alice10102009.jpg
Yeah, Tim Burton is making his version of "Alice in Wonderland," but it's nothing like what Syfy is putting together. And Burton doesn't have both Kathy Bates and Matt Frewer.

The new event will air Dec. 6-7 on Syfy, following the tradition of past end-of-the-year specials, including "Tin Man."

Many, many years after an Alice first disrupted Wonderland and the House of Cards, a new Alice makes her way into the new dimension, now played by Caterina Scorsone. She meets many of the classic characters, including the Queen of Hearts (Bates), the White Knight (Frewer), Caterpillar (Harry Dean Stanton), and special appearances by "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's" Colm Meaney as the KIng of Hearts and Alessandro Juliani from "Battlestar Galactica" as the 9 of Clubs.

The whole production was written and directed by Nick Willing, who directed the 2007 SciFi Channel event "Tin Man," as well as a 1999 made-for-TV version of "Alice in Wonderland."

Is this something to make plans to watch? Find out for yourself with this first-look trailer.

"Alice" airs for two nights beginning Dec. 6 at 8 p.m. ET on Syfy

[hunkahunka]

http://www.heslingtonchurch.org.uk/images/methodist_logo.jpg
Methodist Church Fund logo

http://www.cremationofcare.com/images/icons/kkk_logo.PNG
KKK logo

http://www.methodist.org.uk/images/re_methodist_logo_lowres.gif

http://www.charityadvantage.com/fallbrookfoodpantry/images/Logo--United%20Methodist%20Church.jpg
United Methodist Church logo

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00795/ku-klux-klan_795316c.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00116/george-h-w-bush_116047t.jpg
George H. W. Bush was the 41st President of the United States.

George H. W. Bush previously served as U.S. Vice-President from 1981-89 under Pres. Reagan.

George H. W. Bush was an Episcopalian. He served as Vice-President under an Episcopalian President.

Bush attended St. John's Episcopal while he was President.


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01113/Bush2-460_1113852c.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush

George W. Bush

Religion

Episcopalian (before 1977) [1]
United Methodist (after 1977)

[hunkahunka]

Is it too much to consider then the duality of 'christian conservatives' meeting at a place like Bohemian Grove? A Baptist Jimmy Carter, for example, also a member of the Bohemian Club. Or the duality of even a Reverend Jim Jones, who began as Methodist minister and recruited members for his huge Californian Peoples Temple sect from among the Methodists? L. Frank Baum, author of the Wizard of Oz, was originally a Methodist who became an Episcopalian. Judy Garland's homosexual father was an Episcopalian.
[

Lewis Carrol (author of Alice in Wonderland): Epsicopalian

[soulja]

Lewis Carrol (author of Alice in Wonderland): Epsicopalian

Carrol and Baum were also Theosophists.

Baum wrote a play called The Uplift of Lucifer, or Raising Hell, which had its world premiere in Santa Barbara on 23 October 1915.

[soulja]

interesting that Cobain's daughter Frances recently blogged an attack
rant on Lohan's sister:
http://trak.in/news/kurt-cobains-daughter-blasts-ali-lohan-on-twitter/12426/


also, unbelievable as it may seem, the following was reported by multiple, as in MANY, internet media sources:

Tim Burton offered Frances Bean Cobain the role of Alice in his upcoming
film Alice in Wonderland.


Frances Bean Cobain turned down role in Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland


The teenaged daughter of Courtney Love and late Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain was reportedly courted by director Tim Burton to star in his screen adaptation of 'Alice in Wonderland.' But she turned it down to focus on her education.

The teenaged daughter of Courtney Love and late Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain was reportedly courted by director Tim Burton to star in his screen adaptation of 'Alice in Wonderland.' But she turned it down to focus on her education.

17-year-old Frances Bean Cobain was considered to star in the title role, alongside Johnny Depp, Anne Hathaway and Helena Bonham Carter.

But a source is said to have told the UK's Mail on Sunday that Cobain rejected the part.
'Tim thought she would be perfect,' said the source, 'but she wants to go to university. She's incredibly focused and sensible.'

The role of Alice went to newcomer Mia Wasikowska. The film is set for a March 2010 release.

also in the works is a new Syfy miniseries called 'Alice', a science fiction
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Frances with her Mother

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Mia Wasikowska

Wasikowska was born and raised in Canberra.[3] Growing up she studied ballet,[4] switching to full-time acting in 2006.[5] She has Polish ancestry.[4]

Wasikowska began her acting career in Australia and was nominated for a Young Actress AFI Award for her role in Suburban Mayhem.[3] She starred in several Australian short films, and also appeared in Rogue, an Australian horror movie.

In the United States, Wasikowska earned critical acclaim for her performance in HBO's In Treatment, playing Sophie, an aspiring Olympic gymnast who is sent to Gabriel Byrne's psychotherapist following an accident which is suspected to have been a suicide attempt. She followed that up with supporting roles in several American films. Wasikowska appeared in Defiance with Daniel Craig, the indie film That Evening Sun with Hal Holbrook, and then played the role of Elinor Smith, a young female aviator and fan of Amelia Earhart in Amelia, starring Hillary Swank.

In July 2008, after a long search, Wasikowska was chosen to play the title role in Tim Burton's interpretation of Alice in Wonderland,alongside Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham Carter and Anne Hathaway. In the film, the White Rabbit leads 19 year old Alice back to a Wonderland she no longer remembers, seeking her help to end the tyrannical rule of the Red Queen who has overthrown her sister, the White Queen. Unlike previous incarnations, Alice will evolve over the course of the new film into a more empowered heroine.

Wasikowska has joined the cast of the upcoming indie film The Kids Are All Right, playing the daughter of a same-sex couple (Annette Bening and Julianne Moore) who, together with her brother, sets out to find the biological father (Mark Ruffalo), throwing the family into turmoil.She is in final talks to star in Gus Van Sant's Restless, described as "a dark coming-of-age drama."

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Serial killer Ted Bundy was a Methodist

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In the 1980s one of the most famous criminals was a serial killer named Ted (Theodore) R. Bundy. It is not publicly known why he killed so many innocent victims. Ted Bundy told his girlfriend Elizabeth Kendall that "the force" caused him to kill. Bundy’s confession to her was given after his final arrest in Florida. Elizabeth wrote down his confession as he gave it to her over the phone. Ted said, "I don’t have a split personality. I don’t have blackouts. I remember everything I’ve done. Like Lake Sammamish. We went out to Farrell’s for ice cream after eating hamburgers. It wasn’t like I had forgotten or couldn’t remember, but it was just over...gone...the force wasn’t pushing me any more. I don’t understand it. The force would just consume me." (Kendall, Elizabeth. The Phantom Prince My Life with Ted Bundy. Seattle: Madrona Publishers, 1981, p.176) "The force" is the very term that high level Satanists use to describe the power that they believe in, which they believe can be used for either good or evil. The movie Star Wars surprisingly used the Illuminati’s term "the force", which up until that time had been reserved for esoteric use by Satanism and the occult. This is part of the plan to take the occult and its goals and instill it into the public’s thinking and goals, so that the conspiracy becomes an "open conspiracy" with the general public promoting the drive toward witchcraft as the world religion and its One-World-Government.

Who was Ted, and why did he do what he did? There are a great number of unknowns about Ted. And although it appears to the public that the newspapers covered his crimes thoroughly, often appearances can be very deceiving. If Ted Bundy was reiated to the Bundy Family of the hierarchy, we could expect several things almost without doubt, 1. that his Satanic activities and any occult connotations to the murders would be kept very secret by the police, the newspapers, and his family, 2. that information about the case and Ted Bundy would be closely contained. Interestingly, when I recently went to research Ted Bundy, every copy (all four of them) of the book Ted Bundy: Conversations with a Killer by Stephen G. Michaud had been stolen from the Portland Central Library. One of the other books on him was also missing, and the other was overdue. The University library which is on a different library network was just as bad. I did my research across the border in Washington state. Another category of books that is consistently stolen I have been told by the library staff are books on Freemasonry. Consequently, the Portland Central Library has a policy that interlibrary loan books on Freemasonry cannot be taken out of the library, even though the lending library doesn’t mind if they are checked out. Another example of how books relating to Satanism or the Satanic conspiracy become rare is when I checked the Thurston Co. WA library’s computerized system for Anton LeVey’s Satanic Bible. Of the system’s 18 copies, 14 were lost (I assume stolen), one was listed "trace", and three were being held by the libraries (that is, they were not out on the shelves).

Before proceeding any further, let me categorically state that I haven’t found anything that ties Ted Bundy in with the top Satanic family of the Bundys, nor have I found anything that disproves it either. I don’t know either way. Still there are some interesting items about Theodore Bundy. (Perhaps someone else will be motivated do the genealogy work, and save me the work.) Ted was a law student. One of the schools he studied law at was University of Puget Sound, WA. A major reason he did so poorly in law school was the immense stress that took place in his life in connection to the time and effort he put into murdering beautiful women. Yet, his poor academic performances were no barrier to his political success. Ted does have a number of items that seem suspicious. First, Ted drove all the way from Washington state to Miami, FL to take part in Nelson Rockefeller’s 1968 campaign. He was a big Rockefeller fan. Ted was appointed Assistant Chairman of the Washington State Republican Central Committee, Ted travelled in elite social circles, and was preparing for a campaign for Ted to run for State Governor. For instance in 1973, he was part of the Republican State Committee. He may have been on this committee in other years too. (Ironically, Ted Bundy had served briefly on the Seattle Crime Commission on a Study of White Collar Crime.) For whatever reasons-whether it be elite connections or his winning personality, it is certain that he had a big political career in front of him as a young person if he had not blown things. Second, almost all the serial killers have had connections to Satanism and in every case the media and the police have suppressed or greatly downplayed their connections to Freemasonry and Satanism. For instance, Charles Manson (Freemason, O.T.O. & Satanism), Sam of Sam Berkowitz (O.T.O. & Satanism), Jack the Ripper (Freemason), and Henry Lee Lucas (Satanism). Could it be that Ted Bundy had a Satanic side to him? I haven’t seen anything that shows that he wasn’t a Satanist. He did join the Mormon church during the middle of time period of years when he was murdering innocent women, but his motive for joining certainly had nothing to do with sincerely serving God.

I have learned that Ted had an interest in Astrology. Perhaps the closest person to Ted Bundy, his longtime girlfriend Elizabeth Kendall, wrote in her book The Phantom Prince My Life with Ted Bundy that she didn’t know why he brutally killed so many women. She was aware that he liked bondage-type sexual arrangements. But the inner workings of Ted’s mind were a mystery to her. And Ted was capable of some of the biggest lying and yet coming across totally honest. (This type of lying goes on everyday by the Illuminati members who as a habit make boldface lies to the public.) Ted Bundy was adopted by his father Johnnie Bundy, who was a dentist in the northwest area of Washington State. What is this main branch of Bundy’s that we are speculating that Ted’s father might or might not be tied to? The original Bundy family came to the New World before 1635 to Boston, MS. A few years later they moved to Taunton, MS. A large branch of these Bundys went to Connecticut, and later a few went on to New York. Another group of colonial American Bundys were in North Carolina. The particular members of the Bundy family that are prominent in the New World Order today, are the one’s who would have inherited the position of authority over the family if Satanic tradition had been followed. The Bundy family was an old American family that was part of the Eastern establishment, but with only a few exceptions like Congressman Solomon Bundy in the early 19th century, the family has only come into the public’s eye during the twentieth century. This family also surfaces in not so prominent places too. Two of the key early Watchtower Society leaders were Bundys. These were Walter H. Bundy, who went with Charles Taze Russell to Great Britain on his May 29-31, 1909 trip, and Edwin Bundy who worked at the Bethel Headquarter at the turn of the century and travelled around the U.S. for the Watchtower Society from 1906 to 1910. The following is my own Who’s Who of the Bundy Illuminati family. After this list introducing our cast of characters, this article will get back to discussing the Bundys.

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Excerpts from Chapter 21:


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Drugs and the Monarch Project

On August 18-20, 1996, a California newspaper, the San Jose Mercury, published a series of articles implicating elements of the U.S. government in running tons of cocaine into U.S. cities during the 1980s. Based upon recently declassified government documents, eyewitness reports, and court records, Mercury reporter Gary Webb provided a detailed account of how the Contras financed their war against the Sandinista regime of Nicaragua by flying tons of cocaine into the West Coast, where it would be turned into the deadly, instantly addictive "crack," and sold to such street gangs as the Cryps and the Bloods.

All of this began after the U.S. Congress in the early 1980s passed the Boland Amendment, which stopped all official financing for U.S. intelligence's "covert war" in Nicaragua. The whole project was taken "off-line," and financed by drug sales-the subject of Webb's articles.

Indignation exploded when Mercury series hit the streets. Maxine Waters, Congresswoman for South-Central Los Angeles, one of the areas hardest hit by crack and drug-related violence, sent a letter to Central Intelligence Agency chief John Deutsch demanding an investigation of the Agency, in which she said, "As someone who has seen how the crack cocaine trade has devastated the South-Central Los Angeles community, I cannot exaggerate my feelings of dismay that my own government may have played a part in the origins and history of this problem. . . . The impact and the implications of the Meneses/Blandon/Roiss Contra CIA crack cocaine connection cannot be understated. We all have an obligation to get to the very bottom of the origin, development, and implementation of this seedy enterprise."

While many were shocked at the news of apparent U.S. government drug-pushing, to me it was one more confirmation of a key aspect of the Franklin case. As I had discovered early on (as had Gary Caradori), the sexual abuse of children was only one part of the Franklin story. During the 1980s, many of the children, such as Alisha Owen and Paul Bonacci, said that they had been used as drug couriers to bring cocaine in from the West Coast for Alan Baer, Larry King, and others.

Then, on September 11, 1996, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Representative Harold James, chairman of Pennsylvania's Legislative Black Caucus, and a former undercover narcotics cop himself, also put out a call for an investigation. In the course of that press conference another name popped up, that I knew well from the Franklin investigation: George Bush. Flanked by political leaders of both the city and the state, James declared: "As a retired undercover Philadelphia police officer who worked on narcotics cases, I know we can better impact the flow of drugs if we stop drugs from coming into this country, arrest those at the top levels of control, and punish the white-collar dealers who try to keep their hands clean while they run the entire operation. On this occasion, we must not allow anyone to use the 'pretext of national security to accomplish another cover-up. We need an investigation that goes right to the top."

As to where the "top" might be, James charged, in his release to the press, "previous investigations of the Iran-Contra scandal, particularly the U.S. House and Senate joint hearings in 1987, revealed the central role played by then Vice-President George Bush in covert intelligence operations. . . . One of Bush's key lieutenants was Oliver North. Bush was also appointed by Reagan to run the National Narcotics Border Interdiction Sys- tem, which supposedly coordinated efforts of all federal, state and local anti-drug agencies, especially along the south Florida coast. Bush was responsible for the White House anti-drug effort while, at the same time, according to the recent newspaper reports, tons of cocaine were allegedly supplied to street gangs by CIA-related networks."

Concluded James, "There's something wrong with this picture." In response to a question from one of the ten reporters in attendance about the role of Bush, Philadelphia City Council President John Street replied, "If George Bush is involved in it, someone should find it out. This kind of activity has been going on for well over a decade."

Lt. Col. Oliver North - whom at least one witness reported seeing at a party thrown by Larry King-had overseen the Contra resupply effort, and had been fully aware of the plane-loads of drugs coming into the United States. A U.S. Senate subcommittee report under Massachusetts Senator John Kerry cited extensive evidence that the Contras were involved in drugs, and North had noted the fact in his publicly exposed note-books.

From what I know from my own corner of the world, there is excellent reason to investigate Bush for possible involvement in the dope business. Think back to what I reported in Chapter 13, "The Washington Connection," about how George Bush and Larry King were linked in multiple ways, including eyewitness reports placing Bush at King's sex parties. Think about the constant rumors that King was financing the Contras, who have now been proved to have been running dope by the ton.

The first investigative reporter to ever look at Franklin, the World Herald's James Flanery, told associates that King was "running guns and money into Nicaragua," and that the CIA was heavily involved. (Flanery was soon taken off the story and shipped out of state for a year.)

Records exist to show that Larry King was a top contributor to a Contra "support committee," the Citizens for America (CFA). King's own public relations firm was also used by the Contras.

I became convinced early on that King was deeply involved with the Contras. I am reminded of the phone call State Senator Loran Schmit received on the Senate floor as the Franklin case was just beginning to break. The caller warned him off the case, because "it would lead to the highest levels of the Republican party." I am reminded of when Larry King was finally arrested-just as he was about to go to a breakfast party in Omaha for his buddy, George Bush! I am reminded of the reports I used to hear that certain people in Omaha were charging that Omaha Police Chief Bob Wadman was protecting the expansion of the Cryps and Bloods into Omaha-far from their home turf of Los Angeles.

So, was Larry King's buddy George Bush the country's "drug kingpin" in the 1980s? I don't know. But what I do know, is that if Bush were running the Contra affair, and drugs were a big part of it, that would certainly jibe 100% with everything known or rumored about Bush, Larry King, and the Franklin Credit Union. Congresswoman Maxine Waters and Representative Harold James are right - let's investigate!

As follow-up investigation from the Franklin case shows, drugs are not the deepest level of government -sponsored evil. I think the lowest level of Hell is reserved for those who conjured up and carried out the "Monarch Project."

"Monarch" refers to young people in America who were victims of mind control experiments run either by U.S. government agencies such 'as the Central Intelligence Agency, or military intelligence agencies.

The story told by Monarch victims - one of whom is Paul Bonacci - is that they were tortured for the purpose of creating "multiple personalities" within them. These multiple personalities could then be programmed as desired - as spies, "drug mules," prostitutes, or assassins.

Because of legal cases still pending, I am severely limited in what I can say about the Monarch Project. Suffice it to say at this point:

Major intelligence programs in this country did and do exist for the purpose of protection of this country and to learn what other countries, particularly our Cold War enemies, were doing in this area of mind control.

I asked Bill Colby to tell me what he could or would, about this. He said:

"Of course the CIA in particular was involved in investigating, learning and, on occasion, using, everything we could learn about mind control-and with extremely good reason. Following the Korean War, this country's military and intelligence communities went through a period of absolute paranoia about just how far our enemies were ahead of us in mind control and related activities.

"There was no particular program called' Monarch,' contrary to what you want to think. 'Monarch' was merely a name that some participants in the program-who knew very little about it, other than from their own limited participation-were given to identify themselves. But, as far as the CIA was concerned, there was no such program named 'Monarch.'

"But, with respect to mind control, I will tell you that this country spent millions upon millions supposedly catching up to our Cold War adversaries, because we believed they had developed mind control technology which exceeded anything we had. In fact, we at the Company [CIA] truly believed for a substantial period of time, that technology and techniques and drugs had been developed by Russia which would enable them to have agents who in fact really were able to have and use ESP-extra sensory perception.

"Can you imagine," Bill continued, "how dangerous for this country it would be if you could have had someone meeting the President of the United States, who was actually able to read what was in the President's mind?

"I know," Bill continued, "it may sound silly today to get all carried away with this fear; but I can tell you that we took it all very seriously and believed this ESP thing for some significant time period.

"I will tell you one other thing," Bill said, somewhat ominously, "we are not behind in knowledge of mind control. In fact, we never were, but we only found that out much later, after we had poured incredible resources into this area. And yes, I am sure, there were some problems and abuses that occurred and we will talk about them at another time."

We did have that other talk. And, I intend, when I am freed from court restrictions, to tell that entire story in an upcoming book. I have deposited extensive documentation on the Monarch Project with people who have the means, the motivation, and, most importantly, the guts, to print the entire story, should I suffer an "accident" before I get around to it. Here, I will merely quote from the work of one of America's finest investigative reporters, Anton Chaitkin.

I had known of Chaitkin, who writes for Executive Intelligence Review magazine, from the book he co-authored with Webster Tarpley, George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography. This 659-page-book is a devastating expose of Bush, and it played a notable role in helping to shape the 1992 presidential campaign, which Bush happily lost.

Perhaps it was because the name "Bush" was all over the Franklin scandal, that Chaitkin showed up one day in my Lincoln law office. I told him, "Look, I know you have been in some tough spots before, but are you really sure you want to poke around in this? This question of 'mind control' - the Monarch Project - is the most scary and, dangerous thing I have ever encountered." As I came to know Anton, probably all that little lecture did was to spur him on. Chaitkin got his story on the Monarch Project, and printed it in the December 13, 1993, New Federalist newspaper under the headline, "Franklin Case Witnesses Implicate FBI and U.S. Elites in Child-Torture and Murder." Here follows an abbreviated version of that article:

What is the FBI protecting?

Since the 1992 publication of John DeCamp's book, The Franklin Cover-Up, Paul Bonacci has filed new affidavits and has given extensive interviews to investigators including reporters for Executive Intelligence Review and New Federalist. Bonacci's disclosures have been cross-gridded with evidence supplied by authorities in law enforcement, psychiatry, and the intelligence community. The result goes a long way to explain the high stakes involved, and the frantic nature of the Franklin cover-up. . . .

Paul Bonacci has described in detail being dragged to Washington for use as a sex toy for Larry King's clients. Bonacci told investigators he was in one of the private White House tours for young male prostitutes conducted by lobbyist Craig Spence, a close political associate of Larry King in the cloak-and-dagger Contras enterprise. Spence turned up dead in a Boston hotel room in 1989, soon after his and King's "compromising" business was exposed in a Washington Times June 29, 1989 story, headlined: "Homosexual Prostitution Inquiry Ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush."

'Monarch': or, Auschwitz - Take 2

From very early childhood, Paul Bonacci was subjected to tortures as profound as any the Nazis inflicted on their captives. This is not merely a comparison; rather it is an actual continuation, as we shall see. From sexual degradation, from witnessing and forced participation in Satanic cult murders, Bonacci suffered the cracking of his mind into what is called "multiple personality disorder" (MPD). Tens of thousands of American children have been diagnosed MPDs; virtually all of them are thought to have resulted from sexual abuse, of which perhaps 85 percent were cases of Satanic ritual abuse.

Psychiatric professionals specified in Paul Bonacci's legal proceedings that through it all, Paul's different "personalities" have emerged incapable of lying, with an ultra-sharp memory. In one instance detailed in The Franklin Cover- Up, Paul was taken by Larry King and others to a wooded area in California - identified after publication as the Bohemian Grove. There Paul and another boy were forced to do sex acts with and to consume parts of a child whom they had watched being murdered by the cultists. The body was to be disposed of by "the men with the hoods." A "snuff" pornography film was made of these events; it was directed by a man the party had picked up in Las Vegas whom Paul identified as "Hunter Thompson" -the same name as a well known sleaze-culture figure.

Paul has told investigators that the ring which plunged him into Satanism was centered at Offutt U.S. Air Force Base near Omaha; that he was taken to Offutt to be sexually victimized by a babysitter's boyfriend when he was about three years old, around 1970. Offutt is the headquarters for the Strategic Air Command, and has had a cadre of thousands of intelligence personnel.

At Offutt, and later at other military installations, Paul says this ring "trained" him by tortures, heavy drugging, and sexual degradation, while instructing him in military arts including assassination. In fact, his personal knowledge in these realms can scarcely be accounted for other than by crediting the indictments he has made.

Larry King, FBI agent Gerry Wahl/ Alan Baer, Harold Andersen, and former Omaha Police Chief Robert Wadman have all been reported as collaborators with this Satanic military-based ring. King reportedly told Paul's captors at Offutt, "He's young-but you trained him good." A member of Nebraska's Concerned Parents group reported hearing from two North Omaha witnesses that "King used to send limousines down to Offutt Air Base to pick up CIA agents for parties." Larry King reported his own adoring relationship to the late CIA Director William Casey in a Sept. 7, 1988, interview in the Omaha publication Metropolitan.

Psychiatrists who have treated a growing number of MPD cases, victims of Satanic ritual abuse, report an alarming pattern of findings in many of their child patients. There is a structure to the personalities, conforming to what is evidently a deliberate breaking and reshaping of the mind. This phenomenon was identified to Paul Bonacci by his tormenters, and to other victims and witnesses, as the "Monarch" project. At Offutt Airbase, Paul was told that what he and other children were being subjected to was in aid of national security.

The use of mind-altering drugs, sensory deprivation, and other brainwashing techniques on U.S. citizens as subjects was the admitted practice of the CIA, certain military arms and private institutions joined in the MK-ULTRA, Artichoke, and Bluebird projects beginning in the early 1950s. A national security pretext often cited was the need to keep up with the Soviets in the race to develop a workable Manchurian Candidate human robot. With the "Monarch" (or whatever official title may be attached to it) project, the idea is extended to the production of a horde of children in whom the soul is crushed, who would spy, whore, kill, and commit suicide.

The material presented here, on this subject, must be under- stood to be only a bare introduction to a complex story with immense political and strategic ramifications. It is a beginning. Professionals probing the child victims of "Monarch" say there are clearly two responsible elements at work: the government/military, and cooperating Satanic (or more exactly pagan) cults. These are multi-generation groups, where parents donate their own children-who are proudly called "bloodline" or simply "blood" cultists - to be smashed with drugs and electric shock, and shaped. Other children are kidnapped and sold into this hell, or are brought in gradually through day-care situations.

Paul Bonacci and other child victims have given evidence in great depth on the central role of Lt. Co!. Michael Aquino in this depravity. Aquino, alleged to have recently retired from an active military role, was long the leader of an Army psycho- logical warfare section which drew on his "expertise" and personal practices in brainwashing, Satanism, Nazism, homo- sexual pedophilia and murder.

A former director of the CIA was asked directly, "what about 'Monarch' "? He replied angrily, and ambiguously, "We stopped that between the late 1960s and the early 1970s." If a statement of fact, this would presumably relate to official participation of the CIA.

Some Codes and Assignments

The disclosures of Paul Bonacci, which cohere with reports of MPD professionals in other cases, point to a particular artificially induced mental structure as common to many victimized children. Space permits only the briefest treatment of this here; this is intended mainly to begin to "blow the circuits," so to speak, when followed up by professional therapists and investigators.

These are some of the widely occurring separate "persons" which have been formed under torture, and the corresponding "triggers":

. General personality-accessible under the code name ALPHA, with possible Alpha-001, Alpha-009, etc. "persons" with distinct task orientations.

. Sex programs, accessible through code name BETA; particular programs (and thus commands) are for pornography, acting, oral sex, etc.

. Assassination programs, utilizing very specific modes, and espionage, accessible through code DELTA.

. OMEGA, self-destruction programs, ranging from self mutilation to suicide by many different specific possible acts.

. GAMMA, system deception, amnesia and disinformation programs. Under this or 'other codes are track-covering false origins for the structure, giving the child memories of tormenters dressed as space aliens or Mickey Mouse or in Wizard of Oz costumes.

There are said to be such other personality levels as Master Programmer, Black Master, and different mental levels of backup programs. There are reported to be personnel who have large numbers of child-victims' assignments and triggers neatly filed in their little computers.

Paul Bonacci reports the following "Monarch"-related activities, often involving his "Commander" at Offutt AFB, Bill Plemmons, and Lt. Co!. Michael Aquino:

. Picking up cash in exchange for drugs at various Tennessee locations. Bonacci identifies several country music personalities as contacts.

. Trips on behalf of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), the pedophile group now given semi- official status by the United Nations. Paul cites travel to the Netherlands and Germany carrying child pornography for sub- sequent "import" to the U.S.A. to avoid prosecution. In Amsterdam, he names "Charles Hester," and the British "Tommie Carter," who had on computer a global list of child pornography users. NAMBLA is also cited for organizing auctions of children.

. Travel to Hawaii, New York, Washington (in connection with Craig Spence) to compromise public figures by performing homosexual pedophile sex with them.

. The trip to California where the boy was ritually murdered, accompanied by "Monarch" contact, Mark Johnson of Denver, Colorado,

. Travel to .Mexico for the transportation of drugs, guns, and children. Paul was accompanied by the gangster-figure "Emilio," who otherwise directed the kidnapping of Johnny Gosch of Des Moines, Iowa. Johnny Gosch's parents commend Paul Bonacci as an accurate witness relative to that crime.

. Training under "Captain Foster" (survival skills) at Fort Riley, Kansas, under "Lt. Dave Bannister" (intelligence) at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, under "Col. Harris Livik" at Fort Defiance, Virginia, who is said to run a military school and to have housed "Monarch" boys. "Col. Bill Risher" of Bamberg, South Carolina, is said to have supplied children for Michael Aquino.

. Travel to Dresden in communist East Germany, where weapons were inspected. There and in the Federal Republic of Germany, the "Monarch" personnel were frequently neo-Nazis. This milieu is a special project of Lt. Col. Aquino, who was a West European adviser to the U.S. Chiefs of Staff. Paul Bonacci has extensive experience in the Aryan Nation and other White Supremacist cults.

An account of the origin of the "Monarch" project has been compiled by those who have been debriefing MPD child-victims. Nazi experimentation in World War II concentration camps were said to have gone beyond simply insane physical tortures. They brainwashed people, for military and strategic purposes. After the war, Allen Dulles and other Western intelligence people brought Nazi doctors out for use in the United States. A teenaged concentration camp inmate named Greenbaum, who had participated to save himself, also came to the United States. Known later as "Dr. Green," he became a high- level brainwasher, and is widely represented in brainwashing programs with a distinctive Cabalistic magic theme.

The precise details of these horrors lie deeply buried in national security archives. But this history, as told to psychiatrists, dovetails with what is definitively known about Anglo- American intelligence operations and the German Nazis. And once again, the story goes right back to Nebraska.

The killers in the Nazi camps were themselves trained and organized by psychiatrists and eugenicists, operating from the "T4" bureau. These psychiatrists had long been the pets of white supremacist British and American financier networks.

At least some of these Nazi doctors were spirited out of Germany under the supervision of for Bank of England Governor Montagu Norman and Tavistock Institute Director John R. Rees on behalf of the British government. Norman, personally an insane Theosophist who had been chief of the prewar pro-Nazi faction within England, and Rees organized postwar propaganda and continuing psychological warfare activities, and created "Orwellian" groupings within U.S. psychiatry and mental health fields.

Epilogue

I finally understood the true meaning of the Franklin case one night in early 1996. Watching television and skipping through the channels, I came upon the movie Billy Budd. Instantly I zeroed in on this movie, and my heart, rather than the channels, started skipping.

By the time the movie ended, the Franklin cover-up made sense. Alisha Owen's imprisonment for telling the truth made sense. The protection of the perpetrators by our highest public officials, finally made sense. I understood, also, why it was necessary to discredit me, John DeCamp, and to kill Gary Caradori, with his eight-year-old son. Any nagging doubts I may have had about any aspects of Paul Bonacci's charges were laid to rest. And it was clear to me, at last, that public officials at all levels knew Paul was telling the truth, as they set out to destroy him.

Where did the blinding revelation come from? Let me go back a few months, to my last attempt to get a new trial for Alisha Owen. At that hearing, Troy Boner, who had originally told Gary Caradori the truth, and who had been forced to recant, was preparing to testify - to tell the truth as you read it in his affidavit in Chapter 21. Troy Boner was going to provide the information in open court, under oath, that would blow the lid off the Franklin case and force a new trial for Alisha Owen.

As Troy came into the courthouse, he was immediately ushered into a private room by county judicial authorities. He was advised that a "Special Attorney" had been appointed to protect him. For approximately one hour, while the hearing was delayed, Troy was cornered in a room with this "Special Attorney" and with other officials from the prosecutor's office, the very same prosecutorial team Troy was about to testify against.

When Troy came out of the meeting, I knew he was broken, his morale smashed. His head hung down. He could not, or would not look at anyone.

As I approached Troy, his new court-appointed attorney tried to step between us. With probably the last ounce of courage he could muster, Troy leaned over and whispered to me, "Oh God, forgive me. They guaranteed if I talk here today, they will put me away for twenty years. Guaranteed I would never see the light of day again. Told me that I would be charged with perjury for my original testimony, if I opened my mouth today in court. Don't ~all me up there. I can't survive in prison. I know they can put me there. Look what they did to Alisha. Look what they did to my brother. I've got no choice. They told me I had to take the Fifth Amendment and refuse to testify. Otherwise, they promised I would be taken directly from court to jail"

We all proceeded into the court room, where I called Troy to the stand. I showed Troy his affidavit. He hung his head, and when I asked my first question, "Would you please state your name?" Troy responded, "I take the Fifth Amendment," an answer he repeated, in a barely audible voice, to all my other questions.
It was hopeless. I ceased my questioning, and shortly thereafter the hearing ended.

I walked back to the judge's chambers to clear up any final details. Judge Enbody had been specially appointed by the Nebraska State Supreme Court to this hearing, which I had won from the Supreme Court based on Troy's new information. (The next day I learned that he had been appointed to the Court of Appeals-a very substantial advancement in his career.)

Sitting in Judge Enbody's chambers, with my head hung so low it was hitting my shoestrings, I was given the key to unlock the meaning of Franklin. "I do not understand it, Your Honor," I kept repeating. "As God is my witness, I do not think that there is a judge or other person involved in this case who does not know that horrible injustice has been done. Everybody knows that Alisha Owen is telling the truth and that she is being punished for it. And, Your Honor, a person has to be deaf, dumb, blind, and totally dishonest, not to know that some of this state's and nation's top businessmen and public officials have engaged in the worst crimes possible, which are now being covered up. And these kids, instead of being honored and protected for exposing these things, are being sent to prison. Why? Why? Why?"

Judge Enbody looked at me. Slowly, his voice shaking, he began to talk.

"I am just a man. I am not a god. I wish I were. I have no choice in what I have done. I am just a man, just a man, not a god. I am doing what I must do with the evidence before me," Judge Enbody concluded. He appeared even more shaken and upset than I was.

I shook my head. "I don't understand. I just don't understand," I kept repeating. "Everybody knows what is happening, but nobody is willing to do anything about it. Why? Why?!!" Judge Enbody looked at me and said, very slowly, "If you want to understand the entire Franklin case, I can help you. Go read 'Billy Budd.' Read 'Billy Budd.' If you will do that, John, and if you understand the book, then you will understand the what and why of Franklin, and why it can be no other way. I do not say you will like it. I do not say you will agree with it. But at least you will understand it. That, I promise you. Go read 'Billy Budd'."

Those were the last words I spoke with the Judge on the case. I left his chambers, burnt out, but angry. And I forgot all about Billy Budd, until the night I happened upon the movie. The story of Billy Budd is set in the British Navy near the end of the eighteenth century. Billy was a young sailor, who, although impressed into the British Navy, bore no ill will to the authorities for having dragooned him; indeed, he was the very picture of innocence and good-will, and was almost universally loved aboard his war-ship. One officer, however, developed an insane jealousy of Billy, and set out to frame him up for allegedly inciting mutiny. Since there had been several notorious mutinies in the British fleet at the time, the mere whisper of "mutiny" was enough to spread panic among the ship's officers.

To make a long story short, because of certain incriminating appearances in the case, the captain and his senior officers, although they knew Billy was innocent of all charges, nonetheless sentenced him to hang, a necessity - as they viewed it - to "save the system," not just on their own ship, but in the British fleet as a whole.

Now I think I do understand the Franklin case. I know, now, that all the public officials involved in Franklin-whether they ever heard of Billy Budd or not-fully understood what they were doing.

And what they all have done, and will continue to do in this case, Franklin, and no doubt many others like it, is this: Protect the "system" at all costs. The "system" is the only ultimate sacred cow-not any particular law or constitution, but only "the system." Because, ultimately, it is the system which makes certain that the individuals functioning within it - from judges to lawyers, to prosecutors, to politicians, to businessmen - have their places and positions, and opportunities and pecking order, and future.

And, though it is unfortunate, that on occasion the protection of the "system" requires the deliberate sacrifice of perfectly innocent people, that is hoped overall to be the exception rather than the rule. But without the "system" . .

So, Judge Enbody, now I understand. And, as you said, I may not agree, but I do understand.

But then I have one final, nagging question. How do I know when, or if, the "system" itself has become so corrupted, that evil is the rule, rather than the exception? And when that occurs, what do I do about it?
But I think I know the answer to that one - my oId commanding officer in Vietnam told me what I had to do. I made some promises to Bill, and I intend to keep them.

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George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography --- by Webster G. Tarpley & Anton Chaitkin

Chapter -XXI- Omaha

On the morning of June 29, 1989, pandemonium erupted in the corridors of power in the nation's capital. ``Homosexual Prostitution Probe Ensnares Official of Bush, Reagan,'' screamed the front-page headline of the Washington Times with the kicker ``Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.''

The Times reported, ``A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close ties to Washington's political elite.''

The exposeé centered on the role of one Craig Spence, a Republican powerbroker known for his lavish ``power cocktail'' parties. Spence was well connected. He celebrated Independence Day 1988 by conducting a midnight tour of the White House in the company of two teenage male prostitutes among others in his party.

Rumors circulated that a list existed of some 200 Washington prominents who had used the call boy service. The Number Two in charge of personnel affairs at the White House, who was responsible for filling all the top civil service posts in the federal bureaucracy, and Secretary of Labor Elizabeth Dole's chief of staff, were two individuals publicly identified as patrons of the call boy ring.

Two of the ring's call boys were allegedly KGB operatives, according to a retired general from the Defense Intelligence Agency interviewed by the press. But the evidence seemed to point to a CIA sexual blackmail operation, instead. Spence's entire mansion was covered with hidden microphones, two-way mirrors and video cameras, ever ready to capture the indiscretions of Washington's high, mighty and perverse. The political criteria for proper sexual comportment had long been established in Washington: Any kinkiness goes, so long as you don't get caught. The popular proverb was that the only way a politician could hurt his career was if he were ``caught with a dead woman or a live boy'' in his bed.

Months after the scandal had died down, and a few weeks before he allegedly committed suicide, Spence was asked who had given him the ``key'' to the White House. The Washington Times reported that ``Mr. Spence hinted the tours were arranged by `top level' persons, including Donald Gregg, national security advisor to Vice President Bush''@s1 and later U.S. ambassador to South Korea.

We have already had occasion to examine Don Gregg's role in Iran-Contra, and have observed his curious performance when testifying under oath before congressional committees. Gregg indignantly denied any connection to Spence, yet it is public record that Spence had sponsored a dinner in Gregg's honor in the spring of 1989 at Washington's posh Four Seasons Hotel in Georgetown.

George Bush was less than pleased with the media coverage of the prostitution charges and kept abreast of the scandal as it mushroomed. The Washington Times reported in an article titled ``White House Mute on Call Boy Scandal,'' that ``White House sources confirmed that President Bush has followed the story of the late night visit and Mr. Spence's links to a homosexual prostitution ring under investigation by federal authorities since they were disclosed June 29 in the Washington Times. But top officials will not discuss the story's substance, reportedly even among themselves.

``Press officers have rebuffed repeated requests to obtain Mr. Bush's reaction and decline to discuss investigations or fall out from the disclosures.''@s2 By midsummer, the scandal had been buried. The President had managed to avoid giving a single press conference where he would surely have been asked to comment.

As the call boy ring affair dominated the cocktail gossip circuit in Washington, another scandal, halfway across the country in the state of Nebraska, peaked. Again this scandal knocked on the President's door.

A black Republican who had been a leader in organizing minority support for the President's 1988 campaign and who proudly displayed a photo of himself and the President, arm in arm, in his Omaha home, was at the center of a sex and money scandal that continues to rock the Cornhusker state.

The scandal originated with the collapse of the minority-oriented Franklin Community Credit Union in Omaha, directed by Lawrence E. King, Jr., a nationally influential black Republican who sang the national anthem at both the 1984 and 1988 Republican conventions. King became the subject of the Nebraska Senate's investigation conducted by the specially created ``Franklin Committee'' to probe charges of embezzlement. In November 1988, King's offices were raided by the FBI and $40 million was discovered missing. Within weeks, the Nebraska Senate, which initially opened the inquiry to find out where the money had gone, instead found itself questioning young adults and teenagers who said that they had been child prostitutes. Social workers and state child-care administrators accused King of running a child prostitution ring. The charges grew with the former police chief of Omaha, the publisher of the state's largest daily newspaper, and several other political associates of King, finding themselves accused of patronizing the child prostitution ring.

King is now serving a 15-year federal prison sentence for defrauding the Omaha-based credit union. But the magazines Avvenimenti of Italy and Pronto of Spain, among others, have charged that King's crimes were more serious: that he ran a national child prostitution ring that serviced the political and business elite of both Republican and Democratic parties. Child victims of King's operations charged him with participation in at least one satanic ritual murder of a child several years ago. The Washington Post, New York Times, Village Voice and National Law Journal covered the full range of accusations after the story broke in November of 1988. King's money machinations were also linked to the Iran-Contra affair, and some say that King provided the CIA with information garnered from his alleged activities as a ``pimp'' for the high and mighty.

Pronto, the Barcelona-based, largest circulation weekly in Spain with 4.5 million readers, reported that the Lawrence E. King child prostitution scandal ``appears to directly implicate politicos of the state of Nebraska and Washington, D.C. who are very close to the White House and George Bush himself.''

The weekly stated that Roy Stephens, a private investigator who has worked on the case and heads the Missing Youth Foundation, ``says there is reason to believe that the CIA is directly implicated,'' and that the ``FBI refuses to help in the investigation and has sabotaged any efforts'' to get to the bottom of the story. Stephens says that ``Paul Bonnacci directly accused President Bush of being implicated'' in the affair when he testified before the Franklin Committee.@s3 Bonnacci, who had been one of the child prostitutes, is identified by leading child-abuse experts as a well-informed, credible witness.

Lawrence King was no stranger to President Bush. And Lawrence King was no stranger to Craig Spence. Several of the Omaha child prostitutes testified that they had traveled to Washington, D.C. with King in private planes to attend political events which were followed by sex parties. King and Spence had much in common. Not only were they both Republican Party activists but they had gone into business together procuring prostitutes for Washington's elite.

Bush's name had repeatedly surfaced in the Nebraska scandal. But his name was first put into print in July 1989, a little less than a month after the Washington call boy affair had first made headlines. Omaha's leading daily newspaper reported, ``One child, who has been under psychiatric care, is said to believe she saw George Bush at one of King's parties.''@s4

A full three years after the scandal had first made headlines, Bush's name again appeared in print. Gentleman's Quarterly (GQ) carried a lengthy article, viewed by many political observers in Nebraska as an attempt to refute the charges which would not die, despite the termination of all official inquiries. The GQ piece disputed the allegations as a conspiracy theory that went out of control and resonated because of some mystical sociological phenomena allegedly unique to Nebraskan rural folk who will believe anything and burn ``with the mistrust of city life that once inflamed the prairie with populist passion.'' Numerous polls over the last few years have recorded over 90% saying they believe there has been a ``cover up'' of the truth.

GQ reported that yes, there was theft, corruption and homosexuality in this story, ``but no children were ever involved in this case.'' In fact, ``the only child even mentioned was a 9-year-old boy, whom the least reliable of Caradori's witnesses claimed to have seen in the company of George Bush at one of Larry King's Washington parties.''

Gary Caradori was a retired state police investigator who had been hired by the Nebraska Senate to investigate the case, and who had died mysteriously during the course of his investigations.@s5

Sound crazy? Not to Steve Bowman, an Omaha businessman who is compiling a book about the Franklin money and sex scandal. ``We do have some credible witnesses who say that `Yes, George Bush does have a problem.'... Child abuse has become one of the epidemics of the 1990s,'' Bowman told GQ. Allegedly, one of Bowman's sources is a retired psychiatrist who worked for the CIA. He added that cocaine trafficking and political corruption were the other principal themes of his book.@s6

It didn't sound crazy to Peter Sawyer either. An Australian conservative activist who publishes a controversial newsletter, Inside News, with a circulation of 200,000, dedicated his November 1991 issue entirely to the Nebraska scandal, focusing on President Bush's links to the affair. In a section captioned, ``The Original Allegations: Bush First Named in 1985,'' Sawyer writes,

"Stories about child sex and pornography first became public knowledge in 1989, following the collapse of the Franklin Credit Union. That is not when the allegations started, however. Indeed, given the political flavor of the subsequent investigations, it would be easy to dismiss claims that George Bush had been involved. He was by then a very public figure...."

If the first allegations about a massive child exploitation ring, centered around Larry King and leading all the way to the White House, had been made in 1989, and had all come from the same source, some shenanigans and mischievous collusion could be suspected. However, the allegations arising out of the Franklin Credit Union collapse were not the first.

Way back in 1985, a young girl, Eulice (Lisa) Washington, was the center of an investigation by Andrea L. Carener, of the Nebraska Department of Social Services. The investigation was instigated because Lisa and her sister Tracey continually ran away from their foster parents, Jarrett and Barbara Webb. Initially reluctant to disclose information for fear of being further punished, the two girls eventually recounted a remarkable story, later backed up by other children who had been fostered out to the Webb's [sic].

These debriefings were conducted by Mrs. Julie Walters, another welfare officer, who worked for Boys Town at the time, and who had been called in because of the constant reference by the Webb children and others, to that institution.

Lisa, supported by her sister, detailed a massive child sex, homosexual, and pornography industry, run in Nebraska by Larry King. She described how she was regularly taken to Washington by plane, with other youths, to attend parties hosted by King and involving many prominent people, including businessmen and politicians. Lisa specifically named George Bush as being in attendance on at least two separate occasions. ``Remember, this was in 1985,'' emphasized the Australian newsletter.

The newsletter reproduces several documents on Lisa's case, including a Nebraska State Police report, a State of Nebraska Foster Care Review Board letter to the Attorney General, an investigative report prepared for the Franklin Committee of the Nebraska Senate, and a portion of the handwritten debriefing by Mrs. Julie Walters. Peter Sawyer says that he obtained the documents from sympathetic Australian law enforcement officers who had helped Australian Channel Ten produce an exposeé of a national child prostitution ring Down Under. The Australian cops seem to have been in communication with American law enforcement officers who apparently agreed that there had been a coverup on the Nebraska scandal. Subsequent investigations by the authors established that all four documents were authentic.

Mrs. Julie Walters, now a housewife in the Midwest, confirmed that in 1986 she had interviewed the alleged child prostitute, Lisa, who told her about Mr. Bush. Lisa and her sister Tracey were temporarily living at the time in the home of Kathleen Sorenson, another foster parent. Mrs. Walters explained that at first she was very surprised. But Lisa, who came from a very underprivileged background with no knowledge of political affairs, gave minute details of her attendance at political meetings around the country.

From Julie Walters' 50-page handwritten report:

3/25/86. Met with Kathleen [Sorenson] and Lisa for about 2 hours in Blair [Neb.] questioning Lisa for more details about sexual abuse.... Lisa admitted to being used as a prostitute by Larry King when she was on trips with his family. She started going on trips when she was in 10th grade. Besides herself and Larry there was also Mrs. King, their son, Prince, and 2-3 other couples. They traveled in Larry's private plane, Lisa said that at these trip parties, which Larry hosted, she sat naked ``looking pretty and innocent'' and guests could engage in any sexual activity they wanted (but penetration was not allowed) with her.... Lisa said she first met V.P. George Bush at the Republican Convention (that Larry King sang the national anthem at) and saw him again at a Washington, D.C. party that Larry hosted. At that party, Lisa saw no women (``make-up was perfect--you had to check their legs to make sure they weren't a woman'').

The polygraph test which Lisa took only centered around sexual abuse committed by Jarrett Webb. At that time, she had said only general things about Larry's trips (i.e. where they went, etc.). She only began talking about her involvement in prostitution during those trips on 3/25/86....

Lisa also accompanied Mr. and Mrs. King and Prince on trips to Chicago, N.Y. and Washington, D.C. beginning when she was 15 years old. She missed twenty-two days of school almost totally due to these trips. Lisa was taken along on the pretense of being Prince's babysitter. Last year she met V.P. George Bush and saw him again at one of the parties Larry gave while on a Washington, D.C. trip. At some of the parties there are just men (as was the case at the party George Bush attended)--older men and younger men in their early twenties. Lisa said she has seen sodomy committed at those parties....

At these parties, Lisa said every guest had a bodyguard and she saw some of the men wearing guns. All guests had to produce a card which was run through a machine to verify who the guest was, in fact, who they said they were. And then each guest was frisked down before entering the party.@s7

The details of the accusations against Mr. Bush are known to be in the hands of the FBI. A Franklin Committee report stated:

Apparently she [Lisa] was contacted on December 19 [1988] and voluntarily came to the FBI offices on December 30, 1988. She was interviewed by Brady, Tucker and Phillips.

She indicates that in September or October 1984, when [Lisa] Washington was fourteen or fifteen years of age, she went on a trip to Chicago with Larry King and fifteen to twenty boys from Omaha. She flew to Chicago on a private plane.

The plane was large and had rows of two seats apiece on either side of the interior middle aisle.

She indicates that King got the boys from Boys Town and the boys worked for him. She stated that Rod Evans and two other boys with the last name of Evans were on the plane. Could not recall the names of the other boys.

The boys who flew to Chicago with Washington and King were between the ages of fifteen and eighteen. Most of the boys were black but some were white. She was shown a color photograph of a boy and identified that boy as being one of the boys on the plane. She could not recall his name.

She indicates that she was coerced to going on the trip by Barbara Webb.

She indicates that she attended a party in Chicago with King and the male youths. She indicated George Bush was present.

She indicates that she set [sic] at a table at the party while wearing nothing but a negligee. She stated that George Bush saw her on the table. She stated she saw George Bush pay King money, and that Bush left the party with a nineteen year old black boy named Brent. Lisa said the party George Bush attended was in Chicago in September or October 1984. According to the Chicago Tribune of October 31, 1984, Bush was in Illinois campaigning for congressional candidates at the end of October.

Lisa added more details on the Chicago trip, and told why she was sure it was George Bush she had seen. According to a May 8, 1989 report by investigator Jerry Lowe, ``Eulice [Lisa] indicated that she recognized George Bush as coming to the party and that Bush had two large white males with him. Eulice indicated Bush came to the party approximately 45 minutes after it started and that he was greeted by Larry King. Eulice indicated that she knew George Bush due to the fact that he had been in political campaigns and also she had observed a picture of Bush with Larry King at Larry King's house in Omaha.''

There is no question that Lisa and Tracey Webb were abused in the way they claimed. But, in keeping with the alleged pattern of coverup, a Washington County, Nebraska judge in December 1990 dismissed all charges against their abusers, Jarrett and Barbara Webb. The judge ignored presented testimony of the 1986 report by Boys Town official Julie Walters. The report stated: ``Lisa was given four polygraph tests administered by a state trooper at the State Patrol office on Center Street in Omaha. The state trooper, after Lisa's testing was completed, told [another foster parent] he tried to `break Lisa down,' but he was convinced she was telling the truth.''@s8

Furthermore, numbers of foster care officials and youth workers debriefed the sisters. All of them fully believed not only their general story of abuse, but specifically their account of Bush's involvement. The March 1986 report on Bush was incorporated into the Foster Care Review Board's official report presented to the Senate Franklin Committee and to law enforcement. As Kathleen Sorenson wrote in a report dated May 1, 1989, ``This was long before he [Bush] was president. It seems like there were more exciting people to `lie' about if that's what they were doing.''@s9

The rumors about Mr. Bush were given new life when Dr. Ronald Roskens, the head of the Agency for International Development (AID), found himself the object of controversy. Executive Intelligence Review reported in the fall of 1991 that Dr. Roskens is the subject of a scandal in which he is being charged with violating federal laws and ethics codes, according to the Oct. 6 Washington Post. A report prepared by AID Inspector General Herbert Beckington, dated April 5 and leaked to the Post, charges Roskens with accepting thousands of dollars in payments from ``different organizations in compensation of his and his wife's travel expenses'' while Roskens was on official government travel. He also took money for a private trip from a company ``from which Roskens had agreed to divest himself as a condition of his presidential appointment.''

The inspector general concluded that the money accepted by Roskens was a clear conflict of interest and violated federal law against earning non-government income. But on Sept. 4, after reviewing the charges, the Department of Justice ... informed Beckington that it had decided not to prosecute--giving no explanation for its decision. The White House is reviewing the case.

Congressional investigators are already looking into the allegations. Should they scratch below the surface, they will find that this is not the first time Roskens has been touched by scandal. Although President Bush promised that he would not tolerate even the appearance of impropriety in his administration, Congress should not be surprised if the White House threatens to start ``breaking legs'' in Roskens's defense.

It is not just that Roskens is a personal friend of the President--although he is.... [A]n unimpeded investigation into Roskens could expose the link between Bush's little publicized birth control mania--much of which is carried out through the State Department's AID in the Third World--and the sexual depravity rampant in U.S. political and intelligence elites. Any such scandal could shatter the illusions of Bush's conservative base, many of whom still accept the President's claims to being ``pro-life,'' ``anti-drug,'' and an American patriot. It should also make anyone who thinks of the propaganda about Bush being the ``education President,'' deeply queasy.

Roskens left his home state of Nebraska for the nation's capital in early 1990 enmired in controversy. He had been fired suddenly as president of the University of Nebraska, in a secret meeting of the state Board of Regents in July 1989. No public explanation was given for his removal. Yet, within weeks, the White House offered Roskens the high-profile job in Washington. The administration knew about the controversy in Nebraska, but Roskens passed an FBI background check, and was confirmed to head AID.

The FBI appears to have overlooked a Feb. 19, 1990 investigative report by the late Gary Caradori [see footnote 5 below], an investigator for the ``Franklin Committee'' of the Nebraska Senate. He wrote, ``I was informed that Roskins [sic] was terminated by the state because of sexual activities reported to the Regents and verified by them. Mr. Roskins [sic] was reported to have had young men at his residence for sexual encounters. As part of the separation from the state, he had to move out of the state-owned house because of the liability to the state if some of his sexual behavior was `illegal.'''@s1@s0

There has been no independent confirmation of the accusation. As of late December 1991, a congressional committee was looking into the charges

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Hillary Clinton

Background

Hometown
Park Ridge, Ill.

Age
61

Religion
United Methodist

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Bill and Hillary Clinton in their younger days

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Methodist Methods in the Deep South by Henry Madison Jacobs
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Copyright 2009-08-18

Henry Madison Jacobs

P.O. Box 717

Bolivar, TN 38008-0717

Introduction:

For my multidisciplinary doctoral dissertation research in leadership psychology at the Methodist-controlled University of Mississippi, I send out resumes to all fifty state teachers colleges, am invited to interview at eight, interview at five, and select Eastern New Mexico University (ENMU) as my research specimen. After one year, I am promoted to chairman of the Management Science Department in the second largest MBA program in the state. Then I start my research project:

As a resource for my doctoral research, I invite all faculty members on campus to join with me in a multidisciplinary team-taught evening course. Twelve PhDs from ten different disciplines join with me to create a Multidisciplinary Research Institute.

In addition to our funded research projects, I use Andrea Delbecq's Nominal Group Process and Program Planning Model to achieve a consensus on thirty-six policy-level issues for improving mission performance in the public schools. The British Methodists who control the university oppose these policy changes.

I am told by the Methodist central administration that if I do not stop my doctoral research, that I will be fired, that I will never get another decent position or bank loan -- that I will be surprised at how many things can be made to go wrong in my life -- and that I will end up sleeping under a bridge somewhere.

So I seek and get support from North Central Accreditation Association (NCAA) and a $500,000 grant from the NEA Dushane Legal Defense Fund. The Methodists form the United Methodist Church. I was fired and we had the first trial in 1977, which had to be held over, as explained later. My case "Henry Madison Jacobs versus ENMU" would eventually become one of the most cited cases in the Tenth Judicial District and one of the most cited education cases nation-wide.

The Methodists and I become locked into a "motivational/spiritual leadership war" that has lasted now for almost forty years.

Recent Excerpts from "Notes Made at the Time" in My Web Log

I acquire my jacobsladder.com domain from Network Solutions in 1997 and start hosting with Network Solutions in 2006. I use a local wireless Internet connection.

During April and May 2008, in response to my research website, my home and research center are made virtually unusable by (1) the British Methodist-controlled USDA Rural Development Program, (2) a British Methodist-controlled African Christian Methodist Episcopal (CME) building contractor, and (3) three local British Methodist judges here in this Methodist-controlled county in the Deep South. If you hated Methodists Bush and Cheney, you would hate the Deep South.

By May 15, 2008, I had published a documentary, about this Methodist government-sponsored suppression and fraud, at GoArticles.com in a four-part series entitled "Leadership Science versus Political Science." Since then, these four articles have been downloaded to hundreds of websites and newsletters. And my jacobsladder.com leadership research website is now number one in my field, out of over 1 ¼ million websites. I still have copies of the court documents that comprise and prove Part III of this series. But I have had two hard drives crashed from opening emails in my Network Solutions email account (jacobs@jacobsladder.com). Compare my experience with your own. You may be under Methodist surveillance too. The details are documented below:

5-15-08: I post four articles on Google Blogger. Immediately Internet Explorer reports: "Problems with this webpage might prevent it from displaying properly." ... My virus software reports 189 warnings. I click "Remove all unhealed infections."

5-17-08: My Google Blogger account suddenly doesn't work.

5-18-08: AdAware reports 145 new objects as "auto-quarantined on 5/15/08." I print the list.

5-21-08: In Google Search, my articles and website are all over the Internet in at least a dozen categories!

5-22-08: EasyCleaner finds two invalid registry entries: (1) NoRoam, (2) ShellNoRoam MUICache. (3) I find 19 "unnecessary files." I delete all but three. These three will not delete. I get a message that they "might be in use." One of the files: "Docs & Settings\Temp Internet Files\Content IE5\Index.dat" is 7,389,184 in size!

AdAware: (1) Realtime Protection is turned "Off!" (2) Scan Now: I find 2 privacy objects: MRU Object MRU Path\Documents a ... and MRU Object MRU Registry Key: S-1-5 ...

AVG: Overview: (1) "You may not be protected! Some components report an error:" Update Manager: "The connection fails." Scanner: Virus Vault = Empty. Event History: My attempt to delete it fails.

Note: My articles and website, which were all over the Internet yesterday, are nowhere to be found! I try all available search engines. Nothing!

EasyCleaner finds the two ShellNoRoam files in my Registry. I print a copy.

5-23-08: I start my Compaq laptop and get the message: "Data Execution Prevention - Microsoft Windows. "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed this program." Name: Spooler SubSystem. APP Publisher: Microsoft Corporation. "Data Execution Prevention helps protect against damage from viruses and other security threats. ..."

AVG: "Virus Vault/Event History" is so long that I click "Empty list."...

6-1-08: EasyCleaner finds: (1.) the same three ShellNoRoam files as listed on 5-22-08 plus (2.) thirty additional links to all my recent documents on my Compaq laptop and my Flash Drive.

AdAware reports: Last scan: 5-27-2008. Last infection: 5-22-2008. I click Scan Now and find two "privacy objects," which are the two ShellNoRoam files.

7-9-08: While trying to post blogs on Google Blogger, I find that my JavaScript and cookies have been disabled. I am not allowed to restore them.

11-13-08: I attempt to use my $10,000 Aura Video Systems tomography research device and software. All 300 digital images have been destroyed! Each file contains the red ShellNoRoam symbol.

Microsoft Word: All my images in MyPictures, MyDocs, and MyWebsites have been infected and destroyed! Each one has the red ShellNoRoam symbol.

11-18-08: My Roxio software has been destroyed!

Hewlett Packard 7960 Printer: "Photo Imaging Director" won't open.

2-12-09: I install hard drive #2.

2-17-09: I open Network Solutions Email Account: It contains an email from Network Solutions with the subject: "ACTION REQUIRED OR YOUR ACCOUNT WILL BE DEACTIVATED!" So I phone Technical Support and ask two questions: (1) Am I the only user? Ans. = Yes. (2) Is the above email from you? Ans. = No. So I delete the email.

2-20-09: I check both my website and my articles in Google Search: All links have been sabotaged!

2-23-09: Every time I click on any of my Web articles, as well as when I try to edit them, I get the message, "Internet Explorer is shutting down."

2-27-09: To get my research hypothesis tested by others, I start sending emails about my research, entitled "Call for Research on the Psychology, Aura Tomography, and Sociology of Leadership," to selected researchers at universities. [By 3-13-09, I had sent 104 emails.]

3-3-09: I open my Network Solutions Email Account and find several emails entitled "Paid Invoices" to Tommy Israel, President of Lambuth Methodist University, Jackson, TN (tisrail@jacobsladder.com). I open and save one of the emails in MS Word. Then I also copy it in my hand-written Internet Log (quoted below), just in case my hard drive gets crashed again. The email reads as follows:

"From: Sommer Johnson (sjohnson@jacobsladder.com) To: Maureen Dailey mdailey@idsga.com) Courtesy Copy: Tommy Isreal (tisrail@jacobsladder.com) Subject: Paid Invoices 83 and 86 Message: Good Morning. Here are the copies of the paid invoices, numbers (83) and (86). Have a great day!"

3-13-09: I make the mistake of opening another "Paid Invoice" email in my Network Solutions Email Account. Crash!

I replace hard drive # 2 with hard drive # 3.

3-23-09: ShellNoRoam has already established links to my latest two files for posting on the Internet. I open my Network Solutions email account: I am informed that my login and password are incorrect, that I am a "Guest User," and that my use of my account is limited! I run a virus scan using Malwarebytes Anti-Malware: One of the HomeKey temporary Internet files is named "Change Password." I delete all.

4-2-09: I check my Network Solutions Email Account: I am still getting emails from the Methodist-managed Regions Bank to tisreal@jacobsladder.com! I phone the Network Solutions Email Department and am told to delete "CatchAll." I do an AVG Scan on all these emails. One contains 150,604 objects! So I delete it unopened.

4-6-09: I mail Network Solutions a check for both my domain and hosting. I mail it USPS Certified.

4-15-09: I try to update my WHOIS info at Network Solutions: I lost the connection while logging in. I phone a tech rep. He said that I had not renewed my domain name! I tell him about my USPS Tracking Receipt for certified mail dated 4-7-09. Then he says that he will "renew it for me."

I create a Yahoo! Email Account.

4-16-09 to 4-17-09: I send 196 more emails to sociologists at universities, using my new Yahoo account.

4-27-09: I send an email to CERN, entitled "Grassroots Research Solves Superstring."

4-28-09: I send 42 emails, entitled "Call for Research on the Psychology and Physics of Spirituality," to selected faculty members at Christian universities.

DiskCleanup: I delete "downloaded program files." But I open DiskCleanup again and the "hidden downloaded program files containing Active-X Controls and Java Applets" is still there!

4-29-09: I open my new Yahoo Email Account to send more emails to selected faculty, entitled "Call for Research on the Psychology and Physics of Spirituality" and I get the following popup: "YOUR MESSAGE WAS NOT SENT: Suspicious activity has been detected on your account. To protect your account and our users, your message has not been sent. If this error continues, please contact Yahoo! Customer Care for further help."

I send them a full explanation, including a copy of the email. Then I continue sending to addresses at 16 more organizations, plus 8 sent to faculty members at one organization.

6-17-09: I open Google Blogger: Again I get this notice: "Your browser's cookie functionality has been disabled. Please enable JavaScript and cookies in order to use Blogger." But I am still unable to do so. I would spend the next four weeks trying to get Google Blogger to work! All attempts have failed.

I request that four of my latest articles be sent by GoArticles.com to me at my new Yahoo Email Account. None were received! What's the problem? (1) GoArticles.com? (2) Yahoo.com? (3) Network Solutions.com? (4) My computer? (5) The FBI? (6) The Methodists? (7) All of the above?

6-28-09: I open MS Word/My Docs: All of my documents are in Asian (Japanese) format.

7-15-09: I check my Network Solutions Email Account: I find an Asian email from "acjfren." Subject = "Jacobs: ... [in Japanese]." I leave it unopened.

A few days later, (1) a Methodist student from the University of Memphis contacts me and says that she is majoring in Japanese. She gives me her email address for use in getting emails translated.

I am also approached by two other young Methodist women -- (2) one from Medon, TN, who now works in Colorado for some US government agency that tracks the location of individuals with cell phones and who said she once lived for two years at The Farm near Summertown, TN -- a Methodist-controlled "Hippy Commune" or concentration camp that was used during the 1970s by the Methodists to drug and incarcerate counter-culture protesters; and (3) by another young Methodist woman from Colorado whose husband works for FedEx.

I have also recently been invited into the homes of two well-to-do Methodist widows named (4) Edith and (5) Shirley.

This is only the second and third times in my life that I have been invited into a Methodist home! In 1979 I was living here in Hardeman County, TN awaiting the retrial of my 1977 precedent-setting lawsuit against the Methodists in New Mexico. I had left the amount of damages up to the jury; and the jury had awarded me so much that the trial had to be held over.

While waiting for the second trial, I was invited into the home of the local Methodist Agricultural Extension Agent, who set me up to be drugged with hallucinatory drugs and then admitted to a local Methodist-controlled Mental Hospital and diagnosed by a Methodist doctor as being "Schizophrenic, dangerous, and likely to get worse!!!"

I demanded and was able to get a second opinion from a non-Methodist doctor at the same facility, stating that I had only been drugged. At my next trial in New Mexico, the New Mexico Methodists tried to introduce their Methodist diagnosis against me!

Two years after the second trial, I was able to get an RN at the hospital to smuggle me a copy of my complete file, containing copies of both opinions, including the lab report that proved my claim that I had been set up by the Methodists.

Since Methodists control all peer-review boards, I continue trying to get my multidisciplinary solution to the Superstring confirmed by others! And I must also continue this multidimensional "chess game" to protect my research and me from the Methodists! The British Methodists will try to erase both my research and me from history, as they did at ENMU except for my lawsuit in the Tenth Judicial District!

[hunkahunka]

and check this out, from the same people (methodists) who brought
you Reverend Jim Jones and the Jonestown koolaid festival:


http://www.reedychapel.com/AME-logo.jpg
the African Methodist Episcopal Church

or this gem:

http://www.stjohnamezion.org/AMEZ.jpg

http://americansfortruth.com/uploads/2009/01/v_gene_robinson_homosexual_task_force.jpg
homosexual Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson addresses
the National Gay and Lesbian task force.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/46_Dick_Cheney_3x4.jpg/225px-46_Dick_Cheney_3x4.jpg
Dick Cheney

46th Vice President of theUnited States
In office January 20, 2001 – January 20, 2009
President George W. Bush
Preceded by Al Gore
Succeeded by Joe Biden

Religion Methodist

http://talesbythesea.org/UMC_Logo2.gif

http://www.fumcva.org/images/FUMC%20Logo%201.jpg

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http://ndn3.newsweek.com/media/58/080314_ObamaWright_vl-vertical.jpg

http://www.ship-of-fools.com/mystery/2008/media/chicago_trinity_uniting.jpg
Obama's former church in Chicago, Trinity United Church of Christ

quote:

In 2005, the 1.2-million-member UCC (United Church of Christ) became the first, largest mainline denomination to support same-gender marriage equality.


http://www.gbmnews.com/News_Photos/051808/ucc_gay_marriage_2.jpg



Homosexual play performed at United Church of Christ:

http://blog.mlive.com/grpress/lifestyles_impact/2009/06/large_little-children.jpg
Philip Pletcher plays Robert Morrison, a gay man who has returned to the church as a minister, shakes Eric Hansons' hand and welcomes him to the church Dylan Harrison plays the part of Eric Hanson, who is discovering his identity as a gay man. The play, "All the Little Children," will be performed at the UCC's General Synod in Grand Rapids.

[hunkahunka]

this is an insightful and convincingly detailed analysis of the ritual symbolism
at the 2009 Video Music Awards.(including a masonic initiation ceremony
and a blood sacrifice)

The 2009 VMAs: The Occult Mega-Ritual :

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2191

the above site has been fixed. It was down for awhile, so I
am reposting the link above:

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2191

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interesting to note that the 'Grand Dragon' of the KKK, DC Stephenson, who
"literally chewed Madge Olberholter to death", was, like Ted Bundy, who engaged in similar behavior (simultaneous rape and chewing) , a Methodist.





http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/kkk_stephenson.jpg
DC Stephenson was to become the impetus of the Invisible Empire in Indiana and a number of other northern states. He started organizing the Indiana Klan in Evansville in 1922, moved to Columbus, Ohio, and ended up in Indianapolis as his part of the empire grew. Soon, 20 other states from Maine to Nebraska came under his control.
Recruiting Klan members was an easy task. ... most prolific organizers were Protestant clergymen, particularly those of the Methodist Episcopal persuasion.
more here: (cannot cut and paste)
http://tinyurl.com/ygz7fxf

Ted Bundy's childhood is a classic mk profile: born of incest, broken home, illegitimate child,
adopted, identity confusion in the home, etc. (oh, adopted by Methodists, btw, and put into
the Boy Scouts)

quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy

Ted Bundy

Childhood

Ted Bundy was born Theodore Robert Cowell at the Elizabeth Lund Home For Unwed Mothers in Burlington, Vermont, to Eleanor Louise Cowell. While the identity of his father is unknown, Bundy's birth certificate lists a "Lloyd Marshall" (b. 1916),[2] although Bundy's mother would later tell of being seduced by a war veteran named "Jack Worthington". However, Bundy's family did not believe this story, and expressed suspicion about Louise's violent, abusive father, Samuel Cowell.[3] Whatever the truth of Bundy's parentage, to avoid social stigma, Bundy's maternal grandparents, Samuel and Eleanor Cowell, claimed him as their son. He grew up believing that his mother was his older sister. Bundy biographers Stephen Michaud and Hugh Aynesworth wrote that he learned Louise was actually his mother while he was in high school.[4] True crime writer Ann Rule, who knew Bundy personally, states that it was around 1969, shortly following a traumatic breakup with his college girlfriend.[5]

For the first few years of his life, Bundy and his mother lived in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. In 1950, while he still believed she was his sister, they moved to live with relatives in Tacoma, Washington. Here, Louise had her son's surname changed from Cowell to Nelson.[6] In 1951, one year after their move, Louise Cowell met Johnny Culpepper Bundy at an adult singles night held at Tacoma's First Methodist Church.[7] In May that year, the couple were married, and soon after Johnny Bundy adopted Ted, legally changing his last name to "Bundy".

Johnny and Louise Bundy had more children, whom the young Bundy spent much of his time babysitting. Johnny Bundy tried to include his stepson in camping trips and other father-son activities, but the boy remained emotionally detached from his stepfather.[8] Bundy was a good student at Woodrow Wilson High School, in Tacoma, and was active in a local Methodist church, serving as vice-president of the Methodist Youth Fellowship. He was involved with a local troop of the Boy Scouts of America.
/quote


Also notable: KKK Grand Dragon DC Stephenson was a Methodist from Indiana (died in 1966)
Reverend Jim Jones (founder of Jonestown, Guyana, and cult leader) was a Methodist from Indiana, whose father, James Thurman Jones, was a KKK member.

http://ucheyworth.com/Images/300px-Methodist_cross.gif

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http://ndn3.newsweek.com/media/58/080314_ObamaWright_vl-vertical.jpg

http://www.ship-of-fools.com/mystery/2008/media/chicago_trinity_uniting.jpg
Obama's former church in Chicago, Trinity United Church of Christ

quote:

In 2005, the 1.2-million-member UCC (United Church of Christ) became the first, largest mainline denomination to support same-gender marriage equality.


http://www.gbmnews.com/News_Photos/051808/ucc_gay_marriage_2.jpg



Homosexual play performed at United Church of Christ:

http://blog.mlive.com/grpress/lifestyles_impact/2009/06/large_little-children.jpg
Philip Pletcher plays Robert Morrison, a gay man who has returned to the church as a minister, shakes Eric Hansons' hand and welcomes him to the church Dylan Harrison plays the part of Eric Hanson, who is discovering his identity as a gay man. The play, "All the Little Children," will be performed at the UCC's General Synod in Grand Rapids.

Obama's campaign logo bears a certain sun-worshiping resemblance to
the Episcopalian lesbian Bishops mitre (fish hat)

http://www.sff.net/people/raymund/uploaded_images/Obama-logo-712385.jpg
Obama logo

http://geoconger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/schori.jpg
lesbian fish hat (national Episcopal leader, Bishop Katherine Jefferts)

http://www.stjohnandstmark.org/images/Crucifix.jpg
crucified white male symbol hangs in Episcopal Church

http://www.stjohnselkhart.com/stjohnselkhart/file.php/1/Stained_Glass_Window.jpg
white male bleeds into goblets at St. John's Episcopal Church

http://www.stjohnselkhart.com/stjohnselkhart/file.php/1/Crucifix.jpg
more eye candy at St. John's Episcopal

http://theblackcordelias.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/episcopal-bishop1.jpg
side view of fish hat

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On Sept 29, 2009 Jennifer Hudson sang songs from the Wizard of Oz
prior to a 70th Anniversary screening of the Wizard of Oz in Central
Park in NY.

http://mrsgrapevine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/jennifer_hudson_wizard_of_oz.jpg

http://ontheredcarpet.typepad.com/.a/6a010536c12963970b0120a5af461c970b-800wi
quote: Former Dancing With the Stars champ Julianne Hough took part in a special anniversary celebration honoring The Wizard of Oz, with Jennifer Hudson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Hudson

Jennifer Hudson

She came to prominence in 2004 as one of the finalists on the third season of the Fox reality television series American Idol. She made her film debut in the 2006 film Dreamgirls.
In late 2008 Hudson's mother, brother, and nephew were killed in a shooting. Her estranged brother-in-law has been charged with their murders. Soon after the tragic events occurred, Hudson stepped out of the limelight for a three month timespan. Hudson resumed her public appearances in 2009, and has since performed at the Super Bowl XLIII, the Grammy Awards, American Idol, and The Oprah Winfrey Show.[1] Hudson has been described as a friend of President Barack Obama, who invited her to appear with him at a fundraiser in Beverly Hills in May 2009.[2]


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bvonmovies.com/media/2009/07/fragments.jpg
one moment shattered their lives

Fragments (2009)

In 2009, Jennifer Hudson starred as Kathy Archenault in Fragments, a film based on the novel by Roy Freirich, with Dakota Fanning and Forest Whitaker. The name of the film was changed from "Winged Creatures" to "Fragments". It was released on DVD on August 4, 2009.

Tagline:

You have to lose your way to find it. more

Plot:
A group of strangers form a unique relationship with each other after surviving a random shooting at a Los Angeles diner.

http://yurukov.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/winged-creatures.jpg

http://images.contentreserve.com/ImageType-100/0887-1/%7B055B03F4-AF19-488F-BDD1-60F70C65B05D%7DImg100.jpg

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further evidence that Cobain did not write the lyrics to Smells Like
Teen Spirit , found on the 'forbidden page' of the 'Journals' book
that Courtney Love published after his death:


http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8128/cobainforbidden.jpg

quote:

Desire to Burn
by Tim Appelo

'On page 204 of his journals, he incorporated “A Young Woman, a Tree” into a drawing. It was a page so painfully revealing that reviewers were forbidden to reprint it, presumably on Love’s orders. Cobain took a comic-book version of his life story, tore out the cartoon portrait of his head heroically shrieking his number-one lyric “Here we are now, entertain us,” and drew onto it a rather good expressionist sketch of his emaciated body. The drawing is meant to contrast the muscular comic-book superhero head—the public myth—with the shabby private reality of what he called his “Auschwitz” body, which shamed him.

Above the drawing, he clipped six lines from Ostriker. The girl in the poem envies a tree, whose explosion of fall color makes her own life feel pallid:

Passing that fiery tree—if only she could
Be making love,
Be making poetry,
Be exploding, be speeding through the universe
Like a photon, like a shower
Of yellow blazes— '

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8128/cobainforbidden.jpg

Interesting to note that the above page of his journals contain no actual journal text entry of Cobain's , by his own hand. It is not so much a journal entry as a collage, consisting of
two cut and pastes, and a sketch. This juxtaposition of 'collage as journal entry' is interesting when you examine it.
First lets look at the two cut and pastes that Cobain substituted for his journal addition that day:

One is a snippet from a poetry book, six lines of an Alicia Ostriker poem. Cobain could easily have rewritten the Ostriker lines himself, by hand, but chose to cut and paste the lines from the actual page of the book of poetry in which it had appeared. Why?

Cobain obviously did not author the Ostriker lines, and he made a point of emphasizing that fact by refusing to pen the lines into his journal, and instead 'cut and pasted' them in their original form, snipped from the actual page of the book.

And below that we see another cut and paste, also containing poetry, this time poetry from
the song 'Smells Like Teen Spirit', torn from part of a comic book about Cobain.

So what we have here is an intentional cut and paste collage of similar items. Both of them containing poetry....both of them pieces taken from their original source rather than reproduced........

with both of them containing poetry that Cobain did not write. Cobains only inky original contribution to the page , or that day's journal entry , is his rendering of himself, of the rest of his body, at the bottom of the page.

Cobain has embedded a clue to the origin of the lyrics in his journals.

He pasted the line 'if only she could be making poetry' onto a
blank page of his own journal, as a substitute for his own expression,
his own written contribution or journal entry of that day, as if to say
'I have writers block, this expresses for me what I am feeling today'

(in other words , his way of saying " "If only I could be making poetry today", was to cut and paste evidence that someone had beaten him to it, & reveal that someone had already poetically expressed the thought prior to him, and he chose to defer to Ostriker, & to use the better expression of that thought, the poem by Ostriker, rather than try to wax eloquent himself on the subject of writers block)

In my opinion, immediately underneath this, Cobain hints that the same thought process was occurring at the time of his decision to use the lyrics to Smells Like Teen Spirit, (which he had not written himself), on his own record, to best express what he was feeling. ie putting that song on his record was not unlike a deferential cut and paste job, very similar to what he had just done above.

In contrasting a sketch of his own frail body with the mighty body of the artificial comic book image, he admits that he is not the person depicted, ie: he is not the real writer.

What you are seeing expressed here is Cobain's deferential admiration for two writers other than himself.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8128/cobainforbidden.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journals_%28Cobain%29#The_.22Forbidden_Page.22

The "Forbidden Page"

According to an article written by Tim Appelo in the Seattle Weekly in 2002, journalists were banned from printing page 204 of Journals (hardcover) in articles or reviews, ostensibly because of its dark content. The page features a drawing of Cobain's face, torn from a comic book, shouting a refrain from the chorus of his most popular song, "Smells Like Teen Spirit": "With the lights out, it's less dangerous / Here we are now, entertain us!" Under the drawing is a sketch by Cobain of the rest of his body until his hips, its skeletal frame contrasting sharply with the furious-looking comic book image. Above the drawing-collage are six lines cut-and-pasted from an Alicia Ostriker poem called "A Young Woman, A Tree". The six lines, which begin the poem, describe a girl who passes a blooming tree, and envies its beauty; it has been suggested that by juxtaposing these lines with his emaciated self-portrait, Cobain was making a comment on his own loss of creativity and his personal image being in contrast to his public one.

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video:

pro-KKK 1915 film by Methodist producer D.W. Griffith:

full length film viewable here:

http://www.archive.org/details/dw_griffith_birth_of_a_nation

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Black Butterfly Album
http://www.therockdose.com/files/2008/08/buck-cherry-black-butterfly.jpg

From the band 'Buckcherry'

Buckcherry is a Grammy-nominated hard rock band from Los Angeles, California formed in 1995. The band released two albums, Buckcherry (1999) and Time Bomb (2001), before dissolving in the summer of 2002. In 2005, lead vocalist Josh Todd and lead guitarist Keith Nelson formed a new band using the Buckcherry moniker and released a new album on April 16, 2006 titled 15 (2006), which contained Buckcherry's biggest crossover hits to date, "Crazy Bitch" and the band's first Billboard Hot 100 top ten hit, "Sorry". Their fourth album, Black Butterfly (2008), was released in September 2008.

Formation and early years

Buckcherry was formed after lead vocalist Josh Todd met lead guitarist Keith Nelson through their tattoo artist after discovering a common love of AC/DC. The duo made a few demos before being joined by bassist Jonathan Brightman and drummer Devon Glenn, calling themselves Sparrow. Sparrow began performing around the Hollywood club scene, receiving a strong, local following due to their old school rock and roll vibe, and were signed to DreamWorks Records shortly after. The group changed its name to Buckcherry after receiving a cease-and-desist letter from a record label called Sparrow, with Buckcherry being a spoonerism of Chuck Berry, however, the group said it was inspired by a drag queen acquaintance of theirs named Buck Cherry. The band released its self-titled debut in 1999 to critical praise and certified gold sales. The album, produced by Terry Date (Soundgarden/Mother Love Bone/Pantera/Steve Jones), included three modern rock chart hits in "Lit Up", "For the Movies", and "Check Your Head".


Other projects

In April 2008, Buckcherry founding member Jonathan Brightman entered the studio to record a new record with producer Dave Cobb and former Buckcherry members Devon Glenn and Yogi Lonich. Using the name Black Robot, it features tracks written & performed by JB, Devon, Yogi, Dave Cobb, and Huck Johns. Executive produced by JB, Black Robot blends musical influences from AC/DC, The Black Crowes, and Led Zeppelin. The first Black Robot record, featuring the singles "BADDASS", "I'm in Love", and a cover of the Eric Clapton/JJ Cale classic "Cocaine", was released on May 5, 2009 on Amazon.com and iTunes. In early 2009, Black Robot added Swedish born guitarist Andy Andersson to the line-up, as well as drummer Daxx Nielsen, son of guitar legend Rick Nielsen, and Eli Wulfmeier also on guitar.

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/66/Buckcherry_-_Timebomb.jpg
Silence trigger
&
Interesting tats
http://www.allaccessmagazine.com/vol6/issue01/photos/buckcherry_02.jpg

http://rockstar.unionevents.com/mailouts/2009/02/17/images/Buckcherry.jpg

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More butterfly imagery:

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/6bb388ca462e5ebfafff377ad8e9669f/658457.jpg

http://www.ginnwei.com/images/albums/jolintsai_butterfly.jpg
Jolin Tsai, one of the most popular Chinese artistes and the reigning Taiwanese pop queen, has released an all-new Mandarin album, Butterfly or Hua Hu Die, after more than 18 months since the release of her Agent J or Te Wu J album. This new album contains 10 songs including the first single, Flower Butterfly or Hua Hu Die, and the duet with Nick in Real Man or Da Zhang Fu. It seems that this Dancing Queen [Wu Niang] has added new elements such as element of yoga and pole dancing in her new music video

A band called Butterfly Effect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Butterfly_Effect_%28band%29

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/Butterfly_Effect_EP.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/The_Butterfly_Effect_-_Imago.jpg


Kerli's 'love is dead' album
http://www.weirdmusic.net/pics/KerliLoveIsDead.jpg

Kerli with butterfly wings and concealed horns sign.
http://www.gnrdaily.com/upload/news/985984420_l.jpg

Angel
http://www.sugarcainentertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/Kerli.jpg

Very telling, this one is:
http://maca89blog.ic.cz/images/kerli-006.jpg

Mirror
http://www.gothicparadise.de/gothicparadise/files/kerli_woa.jpg

Black & White floor, dominatrix look (dark altar)
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/27256843/Kerli.png

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video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwo47XAEOX8

http://www.youtube.com/user/EsotericKitten#p/a/u/1/WGdCoPx8g6w

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video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yT7lYB-crM&feature=player_profilepage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJM7ctFe0Kk&feature=related

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Roseanne Barr

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2Kzzy7ZYIwCommercial for Madison Square Garden production of
THE WIZARD OF OZ starring Roseanne Barr as the
Wicked Witch.

repost, video link lovingly removed

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJUquCDRryA&feature=video_response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS2Q1ahc0C8&feature=related

repost missing videos

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The following video contains an impressive amount of information on the topic of satanic ritual abuse, the occult, and masonic connections.
(it starts out with the sense that one is just watching a tedious televangelist Sunday television show sermon, but is worth watching in its entirety, as the
scriptural references are contained only in the first ten minutes. The rest of the video contains solid factual information on this topic, ie: existing cases of SRA in modern America, information on the origins of the occult societies
in America, their founders, etc.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7198716510360758238&hl=en#

note the opening music is wonky but the rest of the video is clearly audible

repost missing video

[hunkahunka]

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P35maITNqc

Quote:
Project MK-ULTRA, or MKULTRA, was the code name for a covert CIA mind-control and chemical interrogation research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence. The program began in the early 1950s, continuing at least through the late 1960s, and it used United States citizens as its test subjects. The published evidence indicates that Project MK-ULTRA involved the surreptitious use of many types of drugs, as well as other methods, to manipulate individual mental states and to alter brain function.

Project MK-ULTRA was first brought to wide public attention in 1975 by the U.S. Congress, through investigations by the Church Committee, and by a presidential commission known as the Rockefeller Commission. Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MK-ULTRA files destroyed in 1973; the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission investigations relied on the sworn testimony of direct participants and on the relatively small number of documents that survived Helms' destruction order.

Although the CIA insists that MK-ULTRA-type experiments have been abandoned, 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti has stated in various interviews that the CIA routinely conducts disinformation campaigns and that CIA mind control research continued. In a 1977 interview, Marchetti specifically called the CIA claim that MK-ULTRA was abandoned a "cover story."

On the Senate floor in 1977, Senator Ted Kennedy said:

"The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens "at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign." Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to 'unwitting subjects in social situations.' At least one death, that of Dr. Olson, resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers."

Project ARTICHOKE was a CIA project that researched interrogation methods and arose from Project BLUEBIRD on August 20, 1951, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence. A memorandum by Richard Helms to CIA director Allen Welsh Dulles indicated Artichoke became Project MKULTRA on April 13, 1953.

The project studied hypnosis, forced morphine addiction (and subsequent forced withdrawal), and the use of other chemicals, among other methods, to produce amnesia and other vulnerable states in subjects.

Artichoke was an offensive program of mind control that gathered together the intelligence divisions of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and FBI. In addition, the scope of the project was outlined in a memo dated January 1952 that stated, "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?"

Operation LAC (Large Area Coverage), was a U.S. Army Chemical Corps operation which dispersed microscopic zinc cadmium sulfide (ZnCdS) particles over much of the United States. The purpose was to determine the dispersion and geographic range of biological or chemical agents. [/quote]

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to me that last part is utter bullshit. They dispersed microscopic zinc cadmium sulfide particles just to determine the dispersion and geographic range of spraying....?
I doubt it. Why waste time and money? imo, there was lekely a better reason than that.
Probably a test to see how much Cadmium (& whatever else was in it) the population could be poisoned with from a single spray operation .

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This is the trailer for a powerful new film called 'Fall of the Republic'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzkDReWE0Fc&feature=player_embedded

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article:

Making Mind Control Trendy - Megan Fox: "I have a mental problem", admits to having schizophrenia

2009 10 23

From: nydailynews.com
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=8451

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watch this incredible lecture by Fritz Springmeir, from 1997. The amount of general knowledge he has is mind boggling, and for anyone who was clueless about all of this stuff years ago, like I was, I can imagine what their reaction would have been to being hit with all this at one time, for the first time. Try to imagine yourself seeing this back in 1997, compared to today.
I can imagine some people in the audience, back then, thinking he was making this stuff up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxguuiPgQWc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SQV7uij3sA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjtAVhwmmKk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUHXJefOcEI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr2dL9Qassk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwAtCfl3-vE&feature=related

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Add another child to the list:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091024/ap_on_re_us/us_missouri_girl_dead

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Add another child to the list:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091024/ap_on_re_us/us_missouri_girl_dead

yes, interesting that her Dad is already in jail for drug possession, and a
four year term at that, which means he may have possessed a large amount
of drugs.
As usual, the gullible public is supposed to blame 'men' or 'flawed, immoral humanity' etc. for this, not the Illuminati likely behind it.

When the buses roll in to cart people away to the detention/extermination camps, half the people cheering it on, or more, will be these deluded feminist interest groups who have been convinced that humanity somehow 'deserves it', that somehow there is some 'collective immoral guilt' that
has to be atoned for in some mass human sacrifice. Exactly the same psychology is applied to warfare, in demonizing entire nations as 'enemy populations', thereby justifying incredible astrocities/genocide against innocent civilians.
In this case, mankind is again being turned upon his neighbor, as the source
of the evil is never correctly identified.

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watch this incredible lecture by Fritz Springmeir, from 1997. The amount of general knowledge he has is mind boggling, and for anyone who was clueless about all of this stuff years ago, like I was, I can imagine what their reaction would have been to being hit with all this at one time, for the first time. Try to imagine yourself seeing this back in 1997, compared to today.
I can imagine some people in the audience, back then, thinking he was making this stuff up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxguuiPgQWc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SQV7uij3sA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjtAVhwmmKk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUHXJefOcEI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr2dL9Qassk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwAtCfl3-vE&feature=related

repost (video links removed again)

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Here's another interesting case:

http://www.mefeedia.com/news/24872906

"Who Lean To The Right Jane Doe no more – the young woman found wandering the streets of Midtown has been identified, ending nearly two weeks of waiting and wondering.

After a call to the cops, the mystery was finally solved. It turns out that the young woman was very far from home, and much older than she said she was.

The commanding officer of the New York Police Departments's missing persons squad made a rare public plea.

"We could definitely use some public assistance on this," Lt. Christopher Zimmerman said.

And it worked. Someone phoned police to say they recognized the photo of the young woman, known only as Jane Doe. Investigators believed she was a 14-year-old amnesia patient, but the caller identified her as an 18-year-old from Washington State.

She is being re-united with family there, and police say they're not going to give out her name until after that happens.

The break in the case ended weeks of mystery. The young woman wanted help, but her memory seemed to be all but erased.

"Her answers to my investigators were consistent, 'I don't know, I don't know, I don't know,'" Zimmerman said. "Very clear and concise, but 'I don't know.'"

Two weeks ago she was found wandering near Times Square, outside the Covenant House, a shelter for youth on West 41st Street. Her unusual hair and green camouflage clothing made her hard to miss.

She remembers studying for the GED, and she could recite passages from the fantasy novel "Fool's Fate," but that's about it.

"She was really quiet, never said anything to anybody, really kept to her self," Covenant House resident Jesus Jimenez said.

Now her story appears to have a fantasy ending, going from lost to found in the Big Apple.

It's still unknown how the woman made her way from Washington State to Manhattan. More answers should come after her family helps her connect the dots some more. "

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http://www.stjohnselkhart.com/stjohnselkhart/file.php/1/Stained_Glass_Window.jpg


interesting that Methodist and Episcopal churches take communion, in that they symbolically consume human flesh and blood:

Holy Communion in the Episcopal Church :
http://www.stphilipsfrisco.org/HCommunion.php


United Methodist

United Methodists in the United States are encouraged to celebrate the Eucharist every Sunday, though it is typically celebrated on the first Sunday of each month, while a few go as long as celebrating quarterly (a tradition dating back to the days of circuit riders that served multiple churches). In the United Methodist church grape juice is often used instead of wine. The current Book of Worship of the United Methodist church says that "the pure unfermented juice of the grape, or an equivalent, shall be used during the service of Holy Communion."[23] The elements may be distributed in various ways. Communicants may receive standing, kneeling, or while seated. Gaining more wide acceptance is the practice of receiving by intinction (receiving a piece of consecrated bread or wafer, dipping it in the blessed wine, and consuming it).

http://www.hoodumc.org/anicros2.gif

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjquFhv9jtw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue2ISmeaE_o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et042-Ii__U&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUSCzlnLLP0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3VstfT8Yvw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXSFiOU9C94&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClK0UPFU-I&feature=fvw

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClK0UPFU-I&feature=fvw

In the above video note that at 0:55 , the narrative
says that

"another point: the pyrotechnics you are seeing going off were
being released from beneath little wrought-iron crosses about a foot
and a half tall."

http://www.hoodumc.org/anicros2.gif

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There are more and more:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/33480916/ns/today-today_people/?GT1=43001

Metallica joins FBI in hunt for missing student
Virginia Tech student became separated from her friends at Oct. 17 concert

It has been more than a week since a 20-year-old college student called her friends at a Metallica concert to say she was outside the arena and would find her own way home. Now the famed heavy-metal rockers are participating in the search for her, adding $50,000 to the reward for information leading to her whereabouts.

While investigators attempt to discover what happened to a young woman described as open, beautiful, artistic and giving, Morgan Harrington’s parents, Dan and Gil Harrington, have been keeping a high public profile, trying to focus attention on the disappearance.

“One word that comes to mind when you think of Morgan is ‘shiny,’ ” Morgan’s mother, Gil Harrington told TODAY’s Amy Robach during a recent interview. “She was beautiful and she was beautiful inside, too. She radiated life.”

Dutiful daughter
Young adults sometimes disappear intentionally, but the Harringtons were uncommonly close to their daughter. A student at Virginia Tech, about 35 miles from her parents, she talked to her father every day and trusted him with her computer passwords and the key to her apartment. She also spoke with her mother daily and frequently returned home to visit.

On Saturday, Oct. 17, Morgan Harrington spent the day at home planning with her mother what she was going to wear at the Metallica concert she planned to attend at the University of Virginia.

Such days were the norm for the family, Gil (pronounced “Jill”) Harrington told Robach.

“It was a regular day for us: got up, made tea, had coffee, chatted some, showed the outfits, showed me how she was going to do her make-up,” the mother recalled.

Morgan went with friends to the concert. Sometime between 8:30 and 9 p.m., she called her friends to say she had gone to the restroom and ended up outside John Paul Jones Arena on the University of Virgina campus in Charlottesville. She told them she wasn’t allowed back in and would find another way home.

The next day, her phone and purse were found in a parking lot near the arena. Morgan, who never went anywhere without her cell phone, hasn’t been seen since.

“We have a purse and we have a cell phone. We have a missing girl,” Lt. Joe Rader of the Virginia State Police, told reporters last week. “We do not know whether if she is alive or has met some ill fate.”

‘Let Morgan go’
Gil Harrington said her daughter normally wouldn’t try to get home from a big event on her own, but added: “Kids are impulsive, especially in that excitement. Perhaps she knew who she could get a ride with. We don’t know. We wish we did know.”

Her parents reported her missing the next day and local and state police along with the FBI have been conducting the search for the 5-foot-6, 120-pound blonde with blue eyes.

“She’s really very a sweet person, kind of an innocent individual who probably is quite trusting,” Dan Harrington told Robach. “She’s quite artistic, loves to read, and, really, over the last six months, Gil and Morgan and I had just a phenomenal relationship. She goes to school only 35 miles from here. We’ve been able to have daily contact with her. She’s a wonderful person.”

The Harringtons also have a 22-year-old son who told his mother that if Morgan were abducted, whoever took her would have no choice but to keep her alive.

“He said, ‘Morgan has a purpose in this world, and Morgan is so special that whoever took her is going to keep her around for a while,’ ” Gil Harrington told Robach. Then, addressing the presumed abductor, she added, “So please let Morgan go. No questions asked. Let her come home to us.”

Robach asked Gil Harrington what she would say to her daughter if Morgan was listening.

Signing her words in American Sign Language, the mother looked in the camera and said, “Morgan, we are trying to shine our heart to you as a beacon to come through wherever you are. Come back home.”

Boosted by the $50,000 pledge from Metallica, there is a $150,000 reward for information that helps find Morgan Harrington. Police ask anyone with information to call 434-352-3467.

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http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o129/grondramb/fbidocumentonsymbols2.jpg


interesting that the lesbian pedophile 'girl lover' symbol also appears on a popular Israeli brand of chocolates:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ce/BoxkremboS.jpg

as well as on , of course. 'Golden Gaytime' icecream:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f7/Golden_gaytime_box.jpg/450px-Golden_gaytime_box.jpg

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video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fKllM94JQM
quote:
A carefully secluded "FAA Air Traffic Control Site" in Portland near S Glastonbury CT. The last part of video shows Nike Missile bunkers and a location that the local KKK uses for meetings. This is off Crystal Ridge Rd.

quote:

David Duke
If you read Dukes Wikipedia page, you will find an interesting sentence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_D...arly_adulthood
'Duke went to Laos for ten weeks in 1971 to teach English to Laotian military officers and to serve on cargo flights for Air America.'

He then goes on to join the KKK, helps to start the BNP and raise money for their start up costs.

FACT...
To have been involved in teaching English to the Laotian
military officers in 1971 he MUST have been in the CIA.
There is no reason to think that he ever left the CIA. /quote

the 'Bohemian Grove toy set' (found this gag image online)

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3691/bohemiangrovertoysetsml.jpg
note the kid with the eyeliner, the face, nose, & ear piercings , satanic tshirt, tattoo, black nail polish
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9329/groverface.jpg

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Video: Monarch Chapter 5C: False Memory Syndrome Foundation and Satanic Ritual Abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fWuV1RKgl8&eurl=http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=mcmartin+preschool&hl=en&sitesearch=

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NY Times: Afghan Opium Kingpin On CIA Payroll

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/october2009/281009top.jpg

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, October 28, 2009

A bombshell article in today’s edition of the New York Times lifts the lid on how the brother of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, a suspected kingpin of the country’s booming opium trade, has been on the CIA payroll for the past eight years. However, the article serves as little more than a whitewash because it fails to address the fact that one of the primary reasons behind the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan was the agenda to reinstate the Golden Crescent drug trade.

“The agency pays (Ahmed Wali) Karzai for a variety of services, including helping to recruit an Afghan paramilitary force that operates at the C.I.A.’s direction in and around the southern city of Kandahar, Mr. Karzai’s home,” reports the Times.

An October 2008 report from the Times reveals how, after security forces discovered a huge tractor-trailer full of heroin outside Kandahar in 2004, “Before long, the commander, Habibullah Jan, received a telephone call from Ahmed Wali Karzai, the brother of President Hamid Karzai, asking him to release the vehicle and the drugs.”

In 2006, following the discovery of another cache of heroin, “United States investigators told other American officials that they had discovered links between the drug shipment and a bodyguard believed to be an intermediary for Ahmed Wali Karzai.”

The Times article out today also discusses how the CIA uses Karzai as a go-between between the Americans and the Taliban. He is also directly implicated in the manufacturing of phony ballots and polling stations that were attributed to the President’s disputed election victory.

“If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck,” the American officer said of Mr. Karzai. “Our assumption is that he’s benefiting from the drug trade.”

Officials quoted by The Times described Karzai as a Mafia-like figure who expanded his influence over the drug trade with the aid of U.S. efforts to eliminate his competitors.

The Afghan opium trade has exploded since the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, following a lull after the Taliban had imposed a crackdown. According to the U.N., the drug trade is now worth $65 billion. Afghanistan produces 92 per cent of the world’s opium, with the equivalent of 3,500 tonnes leaving the country each year. Other figures put the number far higher, at around 6,100 tonnes a year.

The New York Times exposé pins the blame on Karzai, but fails to explain that one of the primary reasons behind the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan was the United States’ agenda to restore, not eradicate, the drug trade.

Before the invasion, the Taliban collaborated closely with the U.N. to reduce opium production down to just 185 tonnes, a figure at least 2000% below current levels. The notion that the “Taliban benefits from the drug trade” and that the U.S. is trying to stop it, as both Bush and Obama claimed, is the complete opposite of what is actually happening.

As Professor Michel Chossudovsky has highlighted in a series of essays, the explosion of opium production after the invasion was about the CIA’s drive to restore the lucrative Golden Crescent opium trade that was in place during the time when the Agency were funding the Mujahideen rebels to fight the Soviets, and flood the streets of America and Britain with cheap heroin, destroying lives while making obscene profits.

The Times implies that the drug lord Karzai being on the CIA payroll is little more than an embarrassing coincidence, when in reality he is just a middle manager for the U.S. military-industrial complex’s control of the drug trade in Afghanistan which stretches back decades and was only interrupted when the Taliban came to power.

“Heroin is a multibillion dollar business supported by powerful interests, which requires a steady and secure commodity flow. One of the “hidden” objectives of the war was precisely to restore the CIA sponsored drug trade to its historical levels and exert direct control over the drug routes,” writes Chossudovsky.

“As revealed in the Iran-Contra and Bank of Commerce and Credit International (BCCI) scandals, CIA covert operations in support of the Afghan Mujahideen had been funded through the laundering of drug money. “Dirty money” was recycled –through a number of banking institutions (in the Middle East) as well as through anonymous CIA shell companies–, into “covert money,” used to finance various insurgent groups during the Soviet-Afghan war, and its aftermath.”

Within two years of the CIA’s covert operation in Afghanistan, “CIA assets again controlled this heroin trade. As the Mujahideen guerrillas seized territory inside Afghanistan, they ordered peasants to plant opium as a revolutionary tax. Across the border in Pakistan, Afghan leaders and local syndicates under the protection of Pakistan Intelligence operated hundreds of heroin laboratories. During this decade of wide-open drug-dealing, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency in Islamabad failed to instigate major seizures or arrests.”

This is the history of the Afghan opium trade that the Times won’t tell you, and in failing to do so today’s article serves only to whitewash the true scale of the agenda behind the U.S. occupation of Afghanistan.

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http://thehurstreview.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/milk-the-movie-sean-penn.jpg

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=99831

Worldnet Daily

June 02, 2009

What the Sean Penn 'Milk' film censored

by Les Kinsolving

It has been more than three months since actor Sean Penn received an Academy Award for his portrayal of the late Harvey Milk.

Author and columnist Dan Flynn has noted the following:

* "My inaugural post ponders how Gus Van Sant could have made a film about Harvey Milk without casting a 'Jim Jones' role."

* "Harvey Milk and the San Francisco left allowed Jim Jones to conduct his criminal enterprise in San Francisco with impunity, as payback for his ability to supply campaign volunteers on cue."

* "It's a strange world where merely being homosexual and subscribing to a few fashionable leftist beliefs can erase a shameful supporting role enabling the mass murdering of 914 people. Going to the Fourth Estate was also a fruitless endeavor, as San Francisco media institutions such as columnist Herb Caen were boosters of Jones and his Peoples Temple."

"When veteran journalist Les Kinsolving penned an eight-part investigative report on Peoples Temple for the San Francisco Examiner in 1972, his editors buckled under pressure from Jones and killed the report halfway through.

"Kinsolving quipped that the Peoples Temple was 'the best-armed house of God in the land,' detailed the kidnapping and possible murder of disgruntled members, exposed Jones' phony faith healing, highlighted Jones' vile school-sanctioned sex talk with children and directed attention toward the Peoples Temple's massive welfare fraud that funded its operations."

"Unfortunately four of the series of eight articles were jettisoned after Jones unleashed hundreds of protesters to the San Francisco Examiner, a programmed letter-writing campaign and a threatened lawsuit against the paper. The Examiner promptly issued a laudatory article on Jones. …

"Frisco politicians like Harvey Milk never seemed to care how Jones could, at the snap of his fingers, direct hundreds of people to stack a public meeting or volunteer for a campaign and never bothered to do anything to inhibit the dangerous cult operating in his city."

"Instead, he aided and abetted a homicidal maniac. It wasn't just local hacks Jones commanded respect from. He held court with future first lady Rosalynn Carter, vice presidential candidate Walter Mondale and California Governor Jerry Brown."

"The guy who killed more African-Americans than the Ku Klux Klan was awarded a Martin Luther King Jr. humanitarian award and won the plaudits of California Lieutenant Governor Mervyn Dymally, State Assemblyman Willie Brown, radical academic Angela Davis, preacher/politician Jesse Jackson, Black Panther leader Huey Newton and other African-American activists."

San Francisco homosexual activist Michael Bellfountaine of Act-Up/SF – who in May of 2007 died of complications from HIV – wrote the following:

"Harvey Milk's name appears throughout San Francisco. A municipal railway station and plaza, a park and recreation building and one of the city's most influential political clubs are all named in his memory. A local elementary school is known as the Harvey Milk Civil Rights Academy, and the Eureka Valley Library is now called the Harvey Milk Branch. The theme for this year's Gay Pride Parade was 'Give Them Hope,' Milk's inspirational rally cry from gays and lesbians in San Francisco to their brothers and sisters living in rural America. The International Gay and Lesbian Historical Society is producing an extensive exhibit of Milk memorabilia, which includes the blood-stained suit he was wearing when he and Mayor George Moscone were gunned down in San Francisco City Hall on November 27, 1978. Twenty-five years after his murder, Harvey Milk has been catapulted to the level of gay martyr. Without question, he has left his mark on San Francisco. Despite all the exhibits and memorials of Harvey Milk throughout San Francisco, though, none of them acknowledges Milk's relationship with Jim Jones and Peoples Temple ... the gay historical society's exhibit is titled 'Saint Harvey.'"

Bellfountaine went on to note that after Milk and Mayor Moscone were killed, in the aftermath of their murders all mention of connections between Milk, Moscone and Jones were intentionally obscured. Out of respect for the politicians, their followers took all necessary steps to sever Milk and Moscone from the pariah Jim Jones.

On closer inspection, however, it is clear that Harvey Milk was a strong advocate for Peoples Temple and Jim Jones during his political career, including the tumultuous year leading up to the Jonestown tragedy. Milk spoke at the Temple often, wrote personal letters to Jim Jones, contacted other elected officials on the Temples' behalf and used space in his weekly column to support the works of the Temple, even after the negative New West article went to press. Milk appeared in the pages of the Peoples Forum, the Temple newspaper, and received over 50 letters of sympathy from residents of Jonestown when his lover, Jack Lira, killed himself in September 1978.

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interview discussing the relationship between Jim Jones and Harvey Milk, the double assassination
of Milk and San Francisco Mayor George Moscone immediately after Jonestown, etc.

audio:

About this podcast: Randy Thomasson and researcher Daniel Flynn discuss the truth about late homosexual activist Harvey Milk, and expose the dark side of this gay-agenda hero.

listen:
http://savecalifornia.com/podcast-7-24-09-the-truth-about-harvey-milk.html

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Don’t Drink the Kool Aid on Harvey Milk

by Daniel J. Flynn

How could Gus Van Sant have made a movie about Harvey Milk without casting an actor to play Jim Jones? The biggest story out of San Francisco in November 1978 was not the murder of Mayor George Moscone and City Councilman Harvey Milk by a crazed Dan White. It was the murder of more than 900 people, most of them former denizens of the Bay area, orchestrated in the jungles of Guyana by Jim Jones, a political ally of Milk and Moscone. Jones provided his robot-like followers as volunteers to San Francisco politicians sharing his left-wing views. In return, they allowed him to conduct his criminal ministry with impunity. Moscone, in fact, had appointed Jones chairman of the city’s housing authority. Milk aided and abetted the communist psychopath by describing Jim Jones to President Jimmy Carter as “a man of the highest character” who had “undertaken constructive remedies for social problems which have been amazing in their scope and effectiveness.” Though Hollywood would rather forget, it is worth remembering that Harvey Milk, before being martyred by Dan White and canonized by Penn’s biopic, shamelessly promoted one of modern American history’s great villains.
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note: it is possible that Harvey Milk and Mayor Moscone were assassinated
due to their close knowledge of Jim Jones and his Mkultra operations.
They were killed in a double hit at San Francisco City Hall, ten days after the entire
Jonestown CIA operation was shut down and 'mopped up' via mass killings
of everyone involved.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/40/Gerry_Poster.jpg

Speaking of Gus Van Sant, I found that one of his films, Gerry, is
actually based on a true story, of two hikers who became lost
in the desert, and one purportedly murdered the other. What is odd is
that the killer ended up doing only 1.5 years in jail, even though
the autopsy and circumstantial evidence revealed his story to
be a complete lie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LHKhsXvjMo


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_%28film%29

Gerry


Gerry is a 2002 film directed by Gus Van Sant, written by and starring Matt Damon and Casey Affleck. It was shot in a semi-improvised style with a small crew in Argentina, Death Valley, and the Utah Salt Flats, and is dedicated to the memory of Ken Kesey.

The characters drive into the desert for a hike, to view a "thing" at the end of a wilderness trail. At the beginning of the hike, other hikers can often be seen nearby. After some walking, talking, and an impromptu foot race, they agree on their mutual disinterest in the site and decide to head back. It is only then they realize that they are lost in the desert.

The more the two try to work together to orient themselves and retrace their steps, the more dire their fate becomes; while at the same time, they grow increasingly irritated with each other. In their last day of wandering, mostly in silence, both protagonists collapse due to fatigue and dehydration. The weaker of the two (Affleck) proclaims that he is "leaving," and makes furtive motions toward strangling Damon's character, whereupon, Damon struggles on top of Affleck, dispassionately strangling him instead, before collapsing again.

After some time, Damon is awakened by the sound of an tractor trailer engine and heads with renewed energy in its direction. A highway appears through the fog, and Damon hitches a ride with a family, whom he watches in stunned silence.

The plot of the film shares some commonalities with the events surrounding the death of David Coughlin, who was killed by his friend Raffi Kodikian after the two became lost in Rattlesnake Canyon in New Mexico.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raffi_Kodikian

Killing of David Coughlin

The killing of David Coughlin occurred in the United States in 1999.

David Coughlin was killed in 1999 by Raffi Kodikian, after the two had become lost while hiking. Kodikian pleaded guilty to second-degree murder and served 16 months.[1] He was released in November 2001.

Rattlesnake Canyon

Kodikian and Coughlin, best friends since college, were in their twenties and lived in Boston, Massachusetts. Kodikian was an aspiring journalist and Coughlin was a traffic policy analyst.

In July 1999, the two set off on a road trip from Boston to California, where Coughlin planned to attend graduate school. On August 4, they arrived at Rattlesnake Canyon in Carlsbad Caverns National Park and made camp.

After days of hiking, the two became lost and dehydrated. Kodikian and Coughlin had only brought three pints of water and one pint of Gatorade.[2] One pint of water was used to boil hot dogs during their first evening in the canyon. Although they had a topographical map, neither knew how to properly read it.[1][3] The two took extreme measures, including licking rocks, eating cactus fruit, even drinking their own urine. Kodikian abandoned the idea of drinking his own urine after gagging.

The third night, Coughlin began vomiting, according to Kodikian. On August 8, Kodikian wrote in his journal:
“ "I killed & burried (sic) my best friend today. Dave had been in pain all night. At around 5 or 6, he turned to me & begged that I put my knife through his chest. I did, & a second time when he wouldn't die."[4] ”

Lance Mattson, a park ranger who had been searching for the campers, discovered Kodikian badly dehydrated. When the ranger inquired about Coughlin, Kodikian pointed to a pile of rocks and replied, "I killed him."[1]
[edit] Investigation and trial

Kodikian's attorney, Gary Mitchell, described the killing as an act of kindness. He further stated that it was part of a death pact between the friends and Kodikian intended to kill himself too, but was too weak to do so. Eddy County sheriff, Michael A. "Chunky" Click stated that Kodikian was "moderately to severely dehydrated," and wasn't close to dying when Mattson found him.[4] Authorities further noted that Kodikian had buried Coughlin's body under rocks, some weighing more than 70 pounds.[2] The weight of the rocks and the completion of the task seemed remarkable for someone seriously dehydrated.[2][4] The autopsy on Coughlin revealed that while he was dehydrated, it didn't appear to be fatal.[2][4]

While one theory was that Coughlin confessed to having earlier had a liaison with an ex-girlfriend of Kodikian, Sheriff Click sent Capt. Eddie Carrasco to Boston, but Carrasco discovered nothing.
“ "No one I talked with ever heard a cross word between them. They were the best of friends."[4] ”

At his trial, Kodikian pleaded guilty to second-degree murder. During the sentencing part of Kodikian's trial, it became clear that Coughlin's vomiting was not indicative of severe dehydration but instead was most likely a reaction to unripe cactus fruit.

While Kodikian faced a possible maximum penalty of 20 years in prison, he was instead sentenced by District Judge Jay Forbes to 15 years with all but two years suspended, followed by five years of probation.[5]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/740000/images/_744172_kodikian150.jpg
Raffi Kodikian


- Coughlin was stabbed twice in the chest (ritual?)
- his body buried under a mound of stones (ritual?)
- Coughlin's character (played by Casey Affleck) in the Van Sant film wears a t-shirt with a star on it:

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/g/images/gerry-3.jpg
http://filmjournal.net/clydefro/files/2006/12/gerry-poster.jpg

is this shirt some macabre joke by Van Sant, in that Coughlin
was the star attraction , the star of the show in some strange
project?

Knowing what we now know about Gus Van Sant films, at a guess
the true story of what really happened to David Coughlin is buried in
some CIA blackops file. I can speculate.

Maybe the two stumbled upon something that they weren't supposed to see in that New Mexico desert, and something was done ritually to both silence Coughlin, and to wipe Raffi Kodikian's memory and make him falsely confess to the murder of David Coughlin.

Maybe 'project' Raffi Kodikian's assignment was to deliver Coughlin to a specified desert location for ritual cult slaughter (stabbed in chest twice). In which case there would have been a group of black ops programmers & cult members present.

I haven't seen the film Gerry yet. When I watch it, I may find more of the clues to this that Van Sant likes to include in his films.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VumMNt2bwyg/SGtRLjCGNcI/AAAAAAAAAK0/bFRl_RNnro0/s320/gerry%2B3.jpg


http://stores.homestead.com/unitedindependentmedia/catalog/Gerry-DVD.jpg
twinning? In this film, both main characters go by the name of Gerry

[hunkahunka]

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeFwPZvI6W0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbOdbQpf3WU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-ak6g-76t0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvjFso5kxOs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qc9FCTSD-M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LmCH-BnjO8&feature=related

[hunkahunka]

I have long suspected that the Salem witch trials either never
actually took place (an elaborate lie) or were a type of false flag operation,
similar to other false flag ops that we know about throughout history.

Maybe the idiocy which was credited to the christian Puritans of Salem
(the people purportedly involved therein) achieved its real intended purpose of 'chilling'
or discrediting any actual christian opposition to the occult operations that were planned for the region.

The more I research this, the more I agree with the
idea that the Salem witch trials were likely a false flag event, if any
semblance of such idiocy even took place, in reality, at all.

Here is how an occultist false flag incident at Salem would be done:

- pose as an idiot christian denomination
- claim to have killed 25 obviously innocent people
- reveal that it is motivated by the 'christian intolerance' of the day.
- blame it all, by association, on the the 'idiot Puritans' of the Salem region

In other words, a typical false flag operation, where you either:

- commit crimes and blame them on your enemies in order to discredit them. (and since the Puritans were purportedly a separate christian denomination, other christian denominations would unquestioningly accept this version of events as the unvarnished truth, so long as their own particular denomination was not tainted by the Puritan idiocy)

or :

- claim that crimes were committed which never even occurred, drawing upon
the credibility and stature of prominent people to lend veracity to these lies,
and then blame those fictional crimes on your enemies in order to discredit them.

Though the Puritan christian denomination/establishment of Salem was supposedly responsible for these 'lawful' crimes ,these tales of barbarity would have portrayed all christian opposition to the occult as "stupid & potentially dangerous". (Especially when you include the fact that some of the alleged victims of the salem witch trials were themselves christians.)

It is notable that Danvers State Hospital (and Oz programming farm, complete with railroad access) was located in Salem, Massachusetts, on the very hill where the Salem witch
trials allegedly took place, and built on the former house site of John Hathorn, one of the Salem trial judges.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Danvers_State_Hospital%2C_Danvers%2C_Massachusetts %2C_Kirkbride_Complex%2C_circa_1893.jpg/800px-Danvers_State_Hospital%2C_Danvers%2C_Massachusetts %2C_Kirkbride_Complex%2C_circa_1893.jpg
The glacial drumlin that the Danvers State asylum sat on once was the site of the home
of John Hathorne ,one of the judges in the Salem witch trials.

Innocence by Association

It is notable that the occult complex known at the time as
Danvers State Lunatic Hospital was built at the exact
place/location of the historical incident that served most to discredit
any Christian opposition to the occult in America.

Consider this: While all of the christians of Salem were made 'guilty by association' with the Puritans, maybe then also Salem's practitioners of darkest sorcery were made 'innocent by association' with the falsely accused victims of the Salem witch trials.

Think of it this way. If today, this very day, one were to try to start a 'witch hunt' of occultists, where would there be the least likely prospect of finding a warm welcome? Maybe a place
like...... Salem ,Massachusetts?

If one were a Christian back in 1870, and one didn't like what was going
on at places like Danvers State Hospital (forced druggings, electroshock, lobotomy,ice baths,
isolation chambers, the splitting of personalities, SRA etc.?) one best not be even thinking of
organizing a demonstration, rallying a crowd, and traveling to Salem, Massachusetts, of all places, and accusing the 19th century programmers at Danvers State Hospital of witchcraft (Oz programming, satanic ritual abuse, near death trauma programming, etc.)

Going witch hunting in Salem Massachusetts in 1870 , or any time thereafter, would have been the equivalent of trying to hold a nazi rally/jew hunt in modern day Auschwitz.

Because by 1870, there had been over two hundred years for word to get
out about "those horrible christian Puritans of Salem who'd been such idiots
and so cruel", etc, back in the 1600's.

The Salem area would surely have been completely purged of the evil 'witch hunters' by the time Danvers State Hospital was built. Not only purged, but the region would be prepared, fortified and inoculated, with potential to repel 'any invasion of barbaric witch hunters.' "Never again!"
would be the sentiment drilled into the local sensibilities, & their devotions dispensed with a relish bordering on zealotry.

"And, ah gots a message fo all you goddam witch hunners: y'all
best not come round Salem no more, ya heah me?"

Another odd coincidence is that John Hawthorn, the Salem witch trial judge, upon whose land Danvers State Hospital was eventually built, was the great great grandfather
of 19th century author Nathaniel Hawthorne, who wrote similar fictions to the Salem witch
trial fictions, (works similarly fictional, imo) , and similarly casting Christians in an unfavorable light.

Nathaniel Hawthorne authored 'The Scarlett Letter', a historical fiction novel in which, purportedly, Christian belief required that adulterers in Puritan society be publicly whipped, forced to wear an A on their clothes forever onward, or even killed.

Coincidentally, guess from where Nathaniel Hawthorne drew this historical reference for this 'fact' of 17th century Puritan life?

He drew on records of his own Puritan great great grandfather John Hawthorn, who seems to be the common christian villain in all of this.

The same witch trial judge John Hawthorn, who was allegedly stupid enough to drown innocent
women out of superstition.

Allegedly, John Hawthorn was also a villain who ordered whippings of adulteresses, red A's on clothing, etc. So, this John Hawthorn was quite the character. Killing innocent people because they might be witches (fail the witch water test) and whipping pregnant women, were all, ostensibly, on the average evil christian Puritan's list of purely stupid daily delights.

So, it surely must have all happened, in reality, just exactly the way Nathaniel Hawthorne claimed that it did in his historical fiction novels, right?

Hawthorne's 'Scarlett Letter' novel was also nice enough to include the character of Puritan Reverend Arthur Dimmesdale as the adulterous villain who fathered the baby of an already married woman. (those puritan christians again! hypocrites, and sexist too. only the woman was ever punished! blah blah blah)

Or could it be that both Nathaniel Hawthorne and his ancestral forefather John Hawthorn
both had an interest in depicting Christians as superstitious, ignorant, and barbaric?

And another misleading factor is that though 17th century Boston/Massachusetts law provided for the legal execution of adulterers, and this has been cited as veracity of the claims made
by Hawthorne and other writers of historical fiction, there is only one alleged case (Latham/Britton 1644) where anyone was ever purportedly executed for it)

Danvers State Hospital & Farm (and near-death trauma programming facility etc)
were built on land thoroughly purged of 'Puritans', in Salem.

(The occultist propaganda has been so effective, that the phrase, 'christian puritans', has become a derisive, catch-all phrase for anyone who believes in basic christian principles, and anyone interested in opposing anything corrupt is accused of fomenting a 'witch hunt'.)

http://masteroftheuniverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/franklin1.jpg
Hellfire Club member Benjamin Franklin (who discovered electricity and thereby enabled the invention of electroshock,which was one of the first uses found for electricity)

Benjamin Franklin authored a confirmed hoax news report of christian persecution of witches in 1730. His hoax was basically a 'New Jersey version' of the Salem witch trial hoax, alleging that evil christians were persecuting innocent people again, only this time in New Jersey (the story was later admitted to be a hoax by the newspaper, of which Ben Franklin was the actual publisher):
quote:
"On October 22, 1730, The Pennsylvania Gazette printed an article entitled A Witch Trial at Mount Holly. The story, whose author is thought to be Benjamin Franklin (who published the Gazette), contains a description of a witch trial in southern New Jersey. The Salem witch trials had occurred just thirty-eight years before, leading to the death of twenty-five people. The beliefs that led to the trials were still prevalent in Franklin's day, and Franklin, a man of science, wanted to expose such things as ludicrous "


the text of his article linked below:


A Witch Trial at Mount Holly
by Benjamin Franklin
The Pennsylvania Gazette, October 22, 1730

Burlington, Oct. 12. Saturday last at Mount-Holly, about 8 Miles from this Place, near 300 People were gathered together to see an Experiment or two tried on some Persons accused of Witchcraft.
link:
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/text/display/the_witch_trial_at_mount_holly_text

Amusing location he picked for his hoax too. 'Mount Holly'.


Benjamin Franklin was born a Puritan in Massachusetts, btw, as was John Hawthorn born a Puritan in Massachusetts, as was his descendant Nathaniel Hawthorne (who added an e to the end of his name to conceal his lineage) born in Massachusetts.

Interesting that both Franklin and Hawthorne
were so eager to discredit Puritans in their writings, when both were of prominent Puritan lineage.

Nathaniel Hawthorne also authored the unfinished manuscript 'Septimius Felton',

An H. P. Lovecraft Encyclopedia says that "The Dreams in the Witch House" was "heavily influenced by Nathaniel Hawthorne's unfinished novel Septimius Felton".[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dreams_in_the_Witch_House

The Dreams in the Witch House
Plot summary

Walter Gilman, a student of mathematics and folklore at Miskatonic University, takes a room in the Witch House, a house in Arkham thought to be accursed. The first part of the story is an account of the history of the house, which has once harboured Keziah Mason, an accused witch who disappeared mysteriously from a Salem gaol in 1692. Gilman discovers that for the better part of two centuries many if not most of its occupants have died prematurely.

The dimensions of Gilman's room in the house are unusual, and seem to conform to a kind of unearthly geometry that Gilman theorizes can enable travel from one plane or dimension to another. In his dreams Gilman is taken to a city of Lovecraft's "Elder Things", and even brings back tangible evidence that he's actually been there. Several times his dreaming self encounters a bizarre "congeries (agglomeration) of iridescent, prolately spheroidal bubbles", as well as a trapezoidal figure, both of which seem sapient.

Of much more direct concern, however, are Gilman's nightly dream sojourns with the old hag Keziah Mason and her rat-bodied, human-faced familiar Brown Jenkin, sojourns which he increasingly believes are actually happening in the real world. One night, along with this duo and the infamous "Black Man", Gilman is an unwilling dream participant in the kidnapping of a baby. He awakes to find mud on his shoe and news of the kidnapping in the newspaper.

On May Eve (Walpurgis Night), Gilman dreams that he thwarts Keziah from sacrificing the baby, only to have it killed by Brown Jenkin. Coming back to wakefulness in this plane, Gilman hears an unearthly cosmic sound that leaves him deaf. The next morning, Gilman is found dead in his room in the Witch House, a hole burrowed through his chest and his heart eaten out.

The landlord then abandons the house completely, and when it is finally demolished years later, a space between the walls is found filled with children bones, a sacrificial knife, and a bowl made of some metal that scientists are unable to identify. A strange stone statuette of a star-headed "Elder Thing" is also found, and these items go on display in the Miskatonic University museum, where they continue to mystify scholars.

video:

interesting trailer for a film which was indirectly based on an an unfinished novel by
Nathaniel Hawthorne, an HP Lovecraft story involving dissociative MPD crime, Salem witches, & baby sacrifice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1NIpXjuIPM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2eLH1FMIyw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsxkRNvEbhM

A final note. Our superior breeders, social engineers, master farmers of souls,
may have had a master plan in mind when they were setting up occult centers such as Salem, Massachussetts (aka Danvers, Massachusetts) Were they planning to manufacture fruits and vegetables in their 'farms'?
Like any good farmer, you first prepare the soil by tilling it or turning it upside down.

The Salem witch trial, & other hoaxes of the time, depicted 'puritans' as thoroughly tainted.
Puritans as evil.

(pure = evil, occult = good, etc. ) Turn everything upside down, plow everything deep into the mud, wait for the fertile rot to set in.

The soil of the region was carefully prepared, in advance, because ,in time, it would be needed to nourish the fruits and vegetables produced by such places as Danvers State Hospital.

It is my suspicion that the same group of occultists may have created the Salem witch trial hoax, thereby built Salem, Massachusetts into an occult haven, and then built Danvers State Hospital (on their own land) in which to house a large inmate slave population & 'mass produce' shattered individuals for various purposes, including the breeding of babies
for ritual sacrifice and ritual cannibalism.

[bradstone]

Why is it so hard to believe that a heroin addict with gender confusion issues and a history of depression, might actually have killed himself?

After such a long and exhaustive thread, there is still absolutely no evidence presented that Cobain was murdered by the CIA.

This thread is a disgrace to the forum.

[hunkahunka]

This thread is a disgrace to the forum.

ok, ok, here you go, & they are your favorite, peanut butter!:):

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:):):):)

[hunkahunka]

http://www.videodetective.com/titledetails.aspx?PublishedID=912329

[hunkahunka]

http://www.henrymakow.com/benjamin_franklin-_mason_and_j.html

Benjamin Franklin- Freemason and Jew

September 23, 2009

http://www.henrymakow.com/portrait_benjamin_franklin.jpg(Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790)

by Fritz Springmeier
(Fritz Springmeier is an American hero who is serving a prison term for getting too close to the truth. This excerpt is from the self-published "Be Wise as Serpents, Gentle as Doves.")

A very famous Jewish Mason, born in Boston to descendants of the Puritan tradition is Benjamin Franklin. His father and mother were
Josiah and Abiah Franklin. Benjamin Franklin contributed to the Mikveh Israel Jewish congregation in Philadelphia. But Franklin
did not practice Judaism. He did practice the occult, and things that would be weird to Christians. He became the head of the very
occultic Grand Orient Freemasons when he was in France. Franklin's life was surrounded by Freemasons. Franklin's role in the establishment and promotion of Freemasonry is overwhelming. His role in the destruction of Christianity is quite unknown.


Franklin's career as a Freemason is shrouded in mystery. This Author has in his library the somewhat rare book Benjamin Franklin as a Freemason by Julius Sachse (J.F. Sachse is the last of a line of Sachses in the World Order.) This leading Masonic scholar writes, "To write the history of Franklin as a Freemason is virtually to chronicle the early Masonic history of America....A great difficulty, however, here confronts us, notwithstanding the
prominence of FRANKLIN in Pennsylvania Freemasonry; strange as it appears, he does not mention a word of his Masonic connections or career in his Autobiography, or in any of his correspondence, with but two exceptions, so far as known. This omission is the more
remarkable when we look at his Masonic career while in France during the later years of his life. There, his activity and intimacy with the Brethren was intimate and close, both personal
and official, FRANKLIN taking an active part in their proceedings, even advancing to the so-called higher degrees."56 In spite of all his many duties, Benjamin Franklin was "never
absent from a [Masonic] meeting."57

The Masonic Lodge played such a big role in Franklin's life, and yet Franklin never even hints about Freemasonry in his autobiography. The editor of his autobiography points out that
Franklin tried to portray an unreal persona in his autobiography, but one that Franklin felt people would want to emulate.58 If Masonry is so virtuous, one wonders why it plays no role in his autobiography which was written on purpose to create an image worthy of emulation.
Benjamin Franklin was the founder of the American Philosophical Society.59 He was also a Rosicrucian.60 In Feb. 1730, it appears he was initiated into St. John's Lodge of Philadelphia.61 And in 1727, he started the secret revolutionary political society called
the Leather Apron Club which changed its name in 1731 to Junto, and took on the appearance of being a literary society.62 The same year that this "literary" society changed its name, the St. John's Masonic Lodge that Franklin belonged to got in touch with the Grand
Lodge of London whose Grand Master the Duke of Norfolk appointed Daniel Coxe. Daniel Coxe advised the Masons when he arrived of a plan for the federation of the colonies.63 In 1754, while deputy Grand Master, Franklin unveiled at Albany, NY to his brother Masons
his plan to unite all the colonies under one government.64 Albany was the site of one the earliest Scottish Rite's Lodge of Perfection.

Between Jan 21, 1769 and Jan. 21, 1772 a series of inflammatory letters called The Letters of Junius, which were written in England, were circulated through out the American colonies. The
letters advanced those causes that the colonists would declare to be the causes of their revolution, human rights, freedom of the press, and taxation without representation. The letters were read by Franklin and many of the Masons who initiated the American
Revolution. The man who wrote these letters according to his niece, was the Reverend James Wilmot (1726-1808) a Mason and rector of Barton-on-the-Heath, in Warwickshire in 1785. He also was the first person to publicly name Bacon as the author of Shakespeare's
works.65 He also apparently was in contact with the Lodge of Nine Sisters in France that Franklin would join in 1777.66

"Historians have never ceased to wonder at the enormous psychological influence which Franklin exercised in colonial politics. But up to the present day, few indeed are those who have realized that the source of his power lay in the secret societies to which he belonged and which he was the appointed spokesman."67

Independence Hall which became the famous center of the Revolution was built by the Masons. It is believed by some that the Mason Benjamin Franklin laid its cornerstone, others say it was another Freemason instead.

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN & RELIGION

Some of Franklin's Masonic brothers in France were impressed by the rituals, etc. that he thought up for a new religion. Turning our attention to a different aspect of Franklin's, in a
statement of beliefs Franklin states, "I conceive then, that the INFINITE has created many beings or Gods... It may be that these created Gods are immortal; or it may be that after many Ages, they are changed, and others Supply their Places."68 Not only were Franklin's beliefs not Christian, but in the later years of his life all the Christian standards were violated, so
that it is really a travesty of honest reporting, that Franklin is held up by so many as a role model for Protestants. The distortions in the popular history books about Franklin are but a microcosm of the distortions that history books in general suffer from.

His mother was very concerned that he had joined the Freemasons, and strongly objected. In diplomatic double-talk he advised her not to worry about what she didn't know about. "As to the Freemasons, unless she will believe me when I assure her that they are in
general a very harmless sort of People; and have no principles or Practices that are inconsistent with Religion or good Manners, I know no Way of giving my Mother a better Opinion of them than she seems to have at present (since it is not allow'd that Women should
be admitted into that secret Society)... I must entreat her to suspend Judgment till she is better inform'd,..."69 To paraphrase-- So Mom I can't tell you anything more, but don't judge until you're well informed about us.

--


55. Friedman, op. cit. (Jewish Pioneers & Patriots), p.125
56. Sachse, Julius F.(33°) Benjamin Franklin as a Freemason.
Philadelphia,PA: Compiled by order of the Grand Master of
Pennslyvannia, 1906, p. 1.
57. ibid., p. 103 quoting Dr. Mease who had access to Masonic
documents in 1811, that are not available anymore.
58. Lemisch, L. Jesse, ed. Benjamin Franklin the Autobiography and
Other Writings. NY: The New American Library, 1961, pp. vii-xii.
59. Lemisch, op. cit., pp. 121, 205-9
60. Various Rosicrucian sources.
61. Sachse, op. cit. p.13
62. cf. Sachse, op. cit. pp. 7, 8, 15
63. Fay, Bernard. Revolution and Freemasonry, pp. 230-231.
64. Sachse, op. cit., p. 88.
65. Hall, Manly P.(33°) America's Assignment with Destiny. Los
Angeles, CA: Philosophical Research Soc., 1951, pp.85-87.
66. cf. ibid., and Sachse, op. cit. p. 5.
67. Hall, Manly P. The Secret Destiny of America. Los Angeles, CA:
Philosophical Research Soc, 1972, p. 133.
68. Lemisch. Benjamin Franklin The Autobiography and Other
Writings, pp. 329-330 from Smyth, Albert Henry, ed. The Writings of
Benjamin Franklin Collected and Edited with a life and
Introduction, NY: 1905, pp. 411-12.
69. Lemisch, op. cit., pp. 319-320.

[hunkahunka]

It is my suspicion that the same group of occultists may have created the Salem witch trial hoax, & thereby built Salem, Massachusetts into an occult haven, and then built Danvers State Hospital (on their own land) in which to house a large inmate slave population & 'mass produce' shattered individuals for various purposes, including the breeding of babies
for ritual sacrifice and ritual cannibalism.

Nathaniel Hawthorne was also an expert on Greek literature, and wrote an English
children's book which was a compilation of translated Greek legends/myths
by the title of Tanglewood Tales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanglewood_Tales).

I still wonder about Greek food after reading of Salome having had the head of
John the Baptist served to her on a platter:

http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/142277/1/Salome-Presents-The-Head-Of-John-The-Baptist-At-Herod$27s-Feast,-1537.jpg

Could it be that the Hawthorn's were into more than just Greek literature?
Why stop there?
Could it be that they were into reviving the whole Greek thing? The Greek slavery tradition? The Greek brain recipes, the Greek boy sex, etc? Even the Greek occult rituals
and mystery school secrets?
Is that what the Masonic New World Order is really all about? Rebuilding and restoring
the ancient occult slave empires/societies of Egypt, Greece, and Rome, and restoring our cannibalistic 'natural masters' to their former glory?

Speaking of brain recipes, I read somewhere that Benjamin Franklin was into eating pineal glands, and that all sorts of ancient Rosicrucian rituals took place in the secret underground caves of the Hellfire Club.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Tanglewood.Tales.cover.jpg

[alexs_law]

Excellent thread hunkahunka! Props for your dedicated work!

Maybe off topic, but i immidiately thought about this rapper named Cage when i read "project orange", and in relations to mind control, cia, military operations etc and his song named "Agent Orange"

In my younger days i heard alot of rap music( i still do, but not commercial (never did actually) or destructive rap/music) and listened to different shit via my friends, for example this emcee named Cage. Remember i thought his violent and fucked up lyrics came from some kid who recently got released from the nuthouse, as he sounded like a disturbed, misunderstood madman who cried for help and attention. He sounds truly like someone who has "DID"

One of his alters was Alex from the Clockwork Orange

Anyway i checked out the biography on him at wikipedia here is what i found:


Early life
Palko was born in Würzburg, Germany to American parents. His father, Bill Murray, was stationed on a West German military base as a member of the military police.[1] Palko lived there until the age of four when Murray was dishonorably discharged for selling and using heroin, and the family was sent back to the United States where they lived in Middletown, New York. Murray would often force Palko to pull homemade tourniquets around his arm as he injected heroin. At the age of eight, Palko's father was arrested during a standoff with state troopers after threatening his family with a shotgun.[2][3] By the time Palko was kicked out of high school, his mother had remarried twice, and he was beaten by his stepfather. Palko began using LSD, mescaline, cannabis and alcohol, and was sent to live with his uncle on a German military base, where he was beaten and sent home after a year.

Palko was arrested several times for drug possession and fighting in the streets. When he faced jail time for violating probation, his mother convinced the judge that he was mentally unstable, and he was sent to the Stoney Lodge psychiatric hospital for a two week evaluation. He eventually ended up staying in the hospital for eighteen months, where he was a part of a small group used to test fluoxetine.[3][4] After being misdiagnosed and placed on the drug, he became suicidal and made several attempts to kill himself, including hanging himself with his shoelaces and saving his lithium dose for a month before ingesting all of them at once.[2][3] He was illegally restrained over twenty times for periods of up to thirteen hours at a time by straitjacket and ten point bed restraints.[1][3]


Early career
When Palko was released at the age of eighteen, he pursued a career as a rapper, naming himself "Alex", after the protagonist of Anthony Burgess' novel A Clockwork Orange.[1] After hiring a manager and recording a demo, he was introduced to rapper Pete Nice, and Cage was featured on the 1993 album Dust to Dust. Pete Nice also introduced Palko to radio personality Bobbito García, who featured Palko on his program several times, increasing his reputation amongst New York's underground hip hop scene, where he became associated with KMD, Kurious Jorge, K-Solo, Godfather Don, Artifacts, Pharoahe Monch and El-P. Palko signed with Columbia Records, but frequently recorded while intoxicated, and the label found his efforts to be unsatisfactory.[2] Palko briefly put his career on hold and his drug use increased.[3]

When García founded the label Fondle 'Em Records, he offered Palko a record deal, and Cage released a single featuring the songs "Radiohead" and "Agent Orange" in 1997 to success and acclaim.[1] Following the release of The Slim Shady EP, Palko accused Eminem of imitating his style.[5][6] After several more singles with Fondle 'Em, Palko met Mr. Eon and DJ Mighty Mi of High and Mighty, and the trio formed the group Smut Peddlers, releasing the album Porn Again on Rawkus Records. The album peaked at #10 on the Billboard Heatseekers chart, #43 on the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart, and #184 on the Billboard 200, while its single "That Smut" peaked at #9 on the Hot Rap Singles chart and #96 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks chart.[7]


Eastern Conference, Definitive Jux
Palko signed with Eastern Conference Records, releasing his debut album, Movies for the Blind, on August 6, 2002. It peaked at #12 on the Heatseekers chart, #14 on the Top Independent Albums chart, #58 on the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart, and #193 on the Billboard 200.[8] Palko later stated that the album "sort of glorified drugs" and that he felt the album was "crazy for the sake of being crazy [...] [It] was just kind of an angsty, bullshit record. A few songs on there I liked, and I had a few things to say that were fragmented in there within a lot of randomness".[9] During this period, Palko formed the group The Weathermen, named after the left-wing political organization.[4] The group released their debut album, "The Conspiracy" on June 3, 2003 before Palko left Eastern Conference over alleged non-payment.[3] An extended play, Weatherproof, was released on July 29, 2003.

Because Palko felt that he should no longer play a character, he began to take on a more open writing style,[3] and signed with Definitive Jux, where he released his second studio album, Hell's Winter on September 20, 2005. Palko is quoted as saying "I make progressive rap, it's as simple as that. [...] I don't live for drugs anymore, I don't support them, and I'm not about to make a million songs about them anymore."[9] Hell's Winter peaked at #26 on the Top Heatseekers chart and at #36 on the Top Independent Albums chart.[10] In an in interview with actor Shia LaBeouf for Vanity Fair, LaBeouf expressed interest in starring as Palko in a possible film biography.[11] On November 30, 2007, Spin reported that the film would go into production.[12]

After signing to eastern conference records i think he was about to break off his programming. Then he moved to El-P's Definitive Jux which was an underground alternative hiphop label whp is anti illuminati etc, d-lux! El-P took Cage under his wings and saved him from his earlier mind programming. He went good guy after signing to El-P's label where he released Hell's Winter which i haven't heard. I hope for heavens sake he hasn't been stepforded, sounds very suspiciously when Hollywood wants to make film biography of him though...

In later time Def Jux has escaleted to become a well known alternative hiphop music label with an artist rooster with truthseekers and speakers like: The Perceptionists aka Mr Lif and Akrobatik, Aesop Rock, El-P and Cannibal Ox among others.

PS! I believe his father also went through heavy mind control programs in thread to his extreme behaviour.

So i'm very curious about your take on this as well as others hunkahunka!

Check Mike Ladd's Gun hill road infesticon/majesticon concept

[hunkahunka]

This is a must see film for anyone who wants to know the globalists
plans to establish an occult fascist world dictatorship, the
newest, most incredible film from Alex Jones. This film has got to
be seen by as many millions of people as possible. Please email it
to at least one person, post it everywhere, order the DVD and copy
it and give copies away.

Fall of the Republic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

ordering information here.
http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/faofreprofba.html

quote:

Fall Of The Republic documents how an offshore corporate cartel is bankrupting the US economy by design. Leaders are now declaring that world government has arrived and that the dollar will be replaced by a new global currency.

President Obama has brazenly violated Article 1 Section 9 of the US Constitution by seating himself at the head of United Nations' Security Council, thus becoming the first US president to chair the world body.

A scientific dictatorship is in its final stages of completion, and laws protecting basic human rights are being abolished worldwide; an iron curtain of high-tech tyranny is now descending over the planet.

A worldwide regime controlled by an unelected corporate elite is implementing a planetary carbon tax system that will dominate all human activity and establish a system of neo-feudal slavery.

The image makers have carefully packaged Obama as the world's savior; he is the Trojan Horse manufactured to pacify the people just long enough for the globalists to complete their master plan.

This film reveals the architecture of the New World Order and what the power elite have in store for humanity. More importantly it communicates how We The People can retake control of our government, turn the criminal tide and bring the tyrants to justice.

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/infowars-shop_2074_7529253

[soulja]

Fall of the republic is probably Jones's best film so far, the only problem i have with it is his call to save the republic, as if he doesn't know the republic was a masonic creation from the get go.

[hunkahunka]

It is my suspicion that the same group of occultists may have created the Salem witch trial hoax, & thereby built Salem, Massachusetts into an occult haven, and then built Danvers State Hospital (on their own land) in which to house a large inmate slave population & 'mass produce' shattered individuals for various purposes, including the breeding of babies
for ritual sacrifice and ritual cannibalism.

Nathaniel Hawthorne was also an expert on Greek literature, and wrote an English
children's book which was a compilation of translated Greek legends/myths
by the title of Tanglewood Tales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanglewood_Tales).

I still wonder about Greek food after reading of Salome having had the head of
John the Baptist served to her on a platter:

http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/142277/1/Salome-Presents-The-Head-Of-John-The-Baptist-At-Herod$27s-Feast,-1537.jpg

Could it be that the Hawthorn's were into more than just Greek literature?
Why stop there?
Could it be that they were into reviving the whole Greek thing? The Greek slavery tradition? The Greek brain recipes, the Greek boy sex, etc? Even the Greek occult rituals
and mystery school secrets?
Is that what the Masonic New World Order is really all about? Rebuilding and restoring
the ancient occult slave empires/societies of Egypt, Greece, and Rome, and restoring our cannibalistic 'natural masters' to their former glory?

Speaking of brain recipes, I read somewhere that Benjamin Franklin was into eating pineal glands, and that all sorts of ancient Rosicrucian rituals took place in the secret underground caves of the Hellfire Club.
[/IMG]

actually, the Hellfire Club is known to have done kabbalistic rituals,
as are the Rocicrucians

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/new/111.jpg
Madonna dressed in black, wears the Kabbalistic Tree of Life around her neck, crown on her head..

and then we have Madonna's ex husband now linked to Gus Van Sant
and indirectly to the whole Jonestown Mkultra coverup, by starring in
a film that whitewashed and censored the assassinated Milk's CIA involvement with Jim Jones and the People's Temple.


http://harpymarx.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/milk-poster-sean-penn.jpg

[hunkahunka]

video:

Jonestown - CIA Mind Control 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HULqx4SP46Y&feature=player_embedded

Jonestown - CIA Mind Control 2 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikn3AMaZ_Qk&NR=1

[turquoisefire777]

Fall of the republic is probably Jones's best film so far, the only problem i have with it is his call to save the republic, as if he doesn't know the republic was a masonic creation from the get go.

masonic zodiacs in DC makes for interesting reading in :The Secret Zodiacs of Washington DC: Was the City of Stars Planned by Masons? by David Ovason (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Secret-Zodiacs-Washington-DC-Planned/dp/0099164728/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257433831&sr=8-2)

the problem is that the states was supposedly consecrated for good but overrun by evil. the best way to "save the republic" is to have a complete clean up of infection (evil/corruption) on all levels, and i think Jones knows that too well, but how many is paying attention?

[hunkahunka]

video:

interesting trailer for a film which was indirectly based on an an unfinished novel by Nathaniel Hawthorne, an HP Lovecraft story involving dissociative MPD crime, Salem witches, & baby sacrifice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1NIpXjuIPM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsxkRNvEbhM


Discovering 'Dreams in the Witch House' to be about witches
and child sacrifice in Salem was interesting enough, but
when it was revealed that this H.P. Lovecraft story was based on an unfinished novel by Salem's Nathaniel Hawthorne, it got even more
interesting. Nathaniel Hawthorne is from the same family on whose
land Danvers State Hospital was built. [When I looked into HP Lovecraft's history, I found that his father had been taken away when he was 3, and that he had been raised in by his mother, her two sisters and his mother's parents, who traced back to Salem, Massachussets)

There are some notable similarities between 'Dreams In the Witch House' and 'Session 9'. 'Dreams in the Witch House' and 'Session 9' are
both set in Salem, Massachusetts (Dreams in the Witch House is set in
the fictional town of Arkham, Massachusetts, which is known to have been
modeled after Salem, Massachusetts

quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkham#Location
The real-life model for Arkham seems to be, in fact, Salem, its reputation for the occult making it appealing to one who dabbles in the weird tale.[3]
Arkham Sanitarium appears in the short story The Thing on the Doorstep and may have been inspired by the Danvers State Insane Asylum, aka Danvers State Hospital, located in Danvers, Massachusetts.[4] (Danvers State Hospital also appears in Lovecraft's stories Pickman's Model and The Shadow over Innsmouth.) H.P. Lovecraft's Arkham and the Arkham Sanitarium were paid homage in the creation of Arkham Asylum in the Batman comic book series.

In both 'Session 9' and 'The Dreams in the Witch House', there are
references to dissociative identity disorder and ritual sacrifice.
In 'Session 9', an old tape reel is discovered inside Danvers State
Hospital, of a recorded psychiatric session with a mutliple personality
disordered patient , who can be heard shifting into an alter personality
and then recounting memories of ritual child sacrifice. In 'The Dreams
in the Witch House', the main character realizes that the nightmares
that he had been experiencing were in fact real life experiences that
he had experienced while in a state of hypnosis or dissociative state (alter personality), and that he had been involved in murders, rituals, and baby
abduction.

I have not seen 'Dreams in the Witch House' yet, but I found a .torrent for it
here:
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/111450525/horror?tab=summary

The torrent for 'Session 9' is here:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/772230

http://feedbooks.com/book/1550.png

http://img.flipkart.com/bk_imgs/644/9781438523644.jpg

http://i00.twenga.com/books/the-dreams-in-the-witch-house-and-other-weird-stories-penguin-modern-classic--b_9931vb.png

http://www.best-horror-movies.com/image-files/dreams-in-the-witch-house-movie-poster.jpg

http://www.wosound.com/images/session9.jpg


http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/session-9.jpg

[greydove]

It is my suspicion that the same group of occultists may have created the Salem witch trial hoax, & thereby built Salem, Massachusetts into an occult haven, and then built Danvers State Hospital (on their own land) in which to house a large inmate slave population & 'mass produce' shattered individuals for various purposes, including the breeding of babies
for ritual sacrifice and ritual cannibalism.

Nathaniel Hawthorne was also an expert on Greek literature, and wrote an English
children's book which was a compilation of translated Greek legends/myths
by the title of Tanglewood Tales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanglewood_Tales).

I still wonder about Greek food after reading of Salome having had the head of
John the Baptist served to her on a platter:

http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/142277/1/Salome-Presents-The-Head-Of-John-The-Baptist-At-Herod$27s-Feast,-1537.jpg

Could it be that the Hawthorn's were into more than just Greek literature?
Why stop there?
Could it be that they were into reviving the whole Greek thing? The Greek slavery tradition? The Greek brain recipes, the Greek boy sex, etc? Even the Greek occult rituals
and mystery school secrets?
Is that what the Masonic New World Order is really all about? Rebuilding and restoring
the ancient occult slave empires/societies of Egypt, Greece, and Rome, and restoring our cannibalistic 'natural masters' to their former glory?

Speaking of brain recipes, I read somewhere that Benjamin Franklin was into eating pineal glands, and that all sorts of ancient Rosicrucian rituals took place in the secret underground caves of the Hellfire Club.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Tanglewood.Tales.cover.jpg

Take a look at Nathaniel Hawthorne's House of the Seven Gables it's practically a blow by blow of a 19th century family coming to terms with ritual abuse. Very eye opening. I'm surprised no one has mentioned it before. And I completely agree about the witch trials being a false flag operation. I think they were actually started by dark occultists to take any possible scrutiny off themselves!

[hunkahunka]

Take a look at Nathaniel Hawthorne's House of the Seven Gables it's practically a blow by blow of a 19th century family coming to terms with ritual abuse. Very eye opening. I'm surprised no one has mentioned it before. And I completely agree about the witch trials being a false flag operation. I think they were actually started by dark occultists to take any possible scrutiny off themselves!

thanks, Grey, I want to see the 1940 movie based on the same book
starring Vincent Price, so far have been unable to find a .torrent of it.
Lovecraft mentions Danvers State Hospital in a number of different
stories.

[hunkahunka]

picture of Ft. Hood shooter

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Hasan.jpg
Major Nidal Malik Hasan

Hasan graduated in 1997 from Virginia Tech, with a bachelor’s degree in biochemistry and in 2003 from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences with a medical degree and later finished his residency as a psychiatrist.

[turquoisefire777]

picture of Ft. Hood shooter

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Hasan.jpg
Major Nidal Malik Hasan

Hasan graduated in 1997 from Virginia Tech, with a bachelor’s degree in biochemistry and in 2003 from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences with a medical degree and later finished his residency as a psychiatrist.

hmmmm...


Darth Malak
"Darth Malak was a Human male born on Quelii who took the mantle of Dark Lord of the Sith during the Jedi Civil War. Born Alek Squinquargesimus and nicknamed Squint, he was—prior to becoming a Sith Lord—a famed Jedi Knight and military commander. Squinquargesimus befriended the Jedi Padawan Zayne Carrick and, after taking the name "Malak," assisted him in defeating the Jedi Covenant. During the Mandalorian Wars, Malak gained a reputation as a headstrong warrior who would recklessly charge into danger. He eventually drew closer and closer to the dark side, ultimately being seduced by Sith teachings imparted to him by his closest friend and fellow Jedi Knight Revan. After the final battle of the Mandalorian Wars at the Sith planet of Malachor V, the two twisted the allegiance of the Revanchists and the Republic forces under their command, building the foundations of what would eventually become a new Sith Empire."



http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Malak

http://news.gotgame.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/darth-malak.jpg

[hunkahunka]

Here is an example of the kind of metaphors, (what could be termed 'CIA metaphors') embedded in 'Naked Lunch':

In this scene, Peter Weller, (playing the part of William S. Burroughs) is forced to 'prove his credentials' before being allowed entry into the country of 'Annexia'.

So he shoots his wife in the head. At which point , he is told 'Welcome to Annexia'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9CwWpcwe78


It is, imo, a metaphor for how hard-core criminal/satanic secret societies demand that people make incredible personal sacrifices to prove their utter devotion and commitment to the group before being allowed to join:



In this case, William S. Burroughs, who is famous for having 'accidentally' shot his wife in the head, is depicted as actually having carried out the act as a means to gain entry to another secret level or realm of the network.

I am starting to think Kurt Cobain and River Phoenix may have been tied up with this CIA child drug courier/prostitute stuff during their earlier years prior to becoming famous.

Cobain worshipped homosexual author William Burroughs, who at one point visited Rome, and then lived at a house in Tangiers which was used as a child prostitution brothel , prostituting male Moroccan children to visiting male tourists.
The film 'My Own Private Idaho' depicts a Seattle 16 year old gay-male prostitute who has been living on the streets since he was
twelve, is narcoleptic, suffers blackouts of missing time, and is transported around the world (including Rome). The boy's 'specialty' is apparently a propensity for passing out whenever he is kissed or told to disrobe for his customers. (could be some embedded mind control program, in that the act of disrobing under those circumstances is an embedded 'trigger', that makes him pass out or shift into his 'alter' state. The film 'My Own Private Idaho' appears to be showcasing the fruits of the labors of the CIA in some bizarre fashion.
Mike accusing his handler of selling his body for sex 'while he is asleep'.
Cobain is said to have once worked as a gay prostitute to feed his heroin habit, and toured Europe (including Rome) promoting a minor record before becoming famous with his second album. Cobain was also said to be narcoleptic.

Now listen to this bizarre reading by Burroughs , who always wrote semi-autobiographically , speaking of stealing a bag of severed limbs to feed his heroin habit (with , bizarrely, a heroin-addicted Kurt Cobain providing the background music. Cobain arranged to do this project with Burroughs, and later traveled to meet with Burroughs at his cottage) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pfd3OtPQoA#cDv82sCD0b4


First, it is as yet no certainty for me that
Burroughs was CIA. I think it likely that he was. He says that he was almost recruited, and says that someone scuttled it for him, but who knows what the truth is ? Put it this way, if he had worked as a killer for the CIA, would he be eager to piss off the CIA by broadcasting that to the world?
Of course not. He would issue a denial of any relation to the CIA, if he knew what was good for him. He openly boasted of his homosexual prowess, and in a biographical film about him, titled 'Burroughs', he muses aloud that 'homosexuals are ideally suited to the role of CIA agents'.

anyone interested in this should see his biography film on Google video:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=919...h&plindex=0

it shows him posing with his weapons collection.
He always said "write what you know about" and openly admits that most of his work is semi-autobiographical, so when he starts writing doing heroin about a bag containing severed brown legs, it does get interesting.
He lived in Mexico, South America, Morrocco

from Wikipedia:
*
When he found Rome and Ansen’s company dreary, inspired by Paul Bowles' fiction, he decided to head for Tangier, Morocco.[13] In a home owned by a known procurer of homosexual prostitutes for visiting American and English men, he rented a room and began to write a large body of text that he personally referred to as Interzone[14]. Burroughs lived in Tangier for several months, before returning to the United States where he suffered several personal indignities- Ginsberg was in California and refused to see him, A. A. Wyn, the publisher of Junkie, was not forthcoming with his royalties and his parents were threatening to cut off his allowance. All signs pointed him back to Tangier, a place where his parents would have to continue the support and one where drugs were freely available. He left in November 1954 and spent the next four years there working on the fiction that would later become Naked Lunch, as well as attempting to write commercial articles about Tangier. He sent these writings to Ginsberg, his literary agent for Junkie, but none were published until 1989 when Interzone, a collection of short stories, was published. Under the strong influence of a marijuana confection known as majoun and a German-made opioid called Eukodol (oxycodone), Burroughs settled in to write. Eventually, Ginsberg and Kerouac, who had traveled to Tangier in 1957, helped Burroughs edit these episodes into Naked Lunch.[15]
*
another interesting fact is that Burroughs often forgot having written some of the material, the drug-addled writings got so biographical and so bizarre at points that it prompted some alarm among Kerouac and Ginsberg:
"Bill, what's all this stuff about boys being hung in limestone caves?"

Another interesting film to watch is David Cronenburg's Naked Lunch,
which is written by Cronenberg and not based directly on Burrough's book of that name, but a story about the main character who is a composite assembled by Cronenberg of William Burrough's various characters.
The main character is someone who talks of being on 'assignment' by his handlers, and travels on missions to different foreign locations, and in contact with dark skinned homosexual boy prostitutes. It also, grotesquely, mentions illicit trafficking in something called 'the real black meat', which is depicted as dead black bugs. In fact the main character is at one an exterminator who kills 'bugs' with
by spraying them with an overdose of addictive chemicals.

So here's this guy with a weapons collection who travels around the world with a heroin habit who writes stories about being under the control of handlers, a gay heroin addict, and bags of severed legs etc.
Then I hear that Cobain did the background music for one of Burrough's
audio readings and it gets even weirder. I find out that Burroughs murdered his wife 'by accident' , shooting her in the head. I find out that Cobain worked as homosexual teen prostitute to feed his heroin habit at one time before becoming successful in music and was later obsessed with William Burroughs.
Then I find out that after the heroin addicted Cobain was found shot in the head, with many speculating that his wife Courtney Love had motive to have him killed or even shoot him herself, then Courtney goes on to a career as an actress, and to play the part of Burrough's murdered shot in the head wife Joan in the yr. 2000 film 'Beat' which was based on the life of William Burroughs.

It has been said that Jeffrey Dahmer may have been MKUltra, some sort of MKUltra experiment gone wrong, or the fall guy for a group
of people who were involved. (anyone remember the story of how the police let Dahmer go when they caught him abusing a bleeding boy?
Ever wonder what type of hand signals or code words may have gotten Dahmer out of that situation? Or maybe they ran his name, and found
his file flagged with some sort of 'hands off' designation?)
Kay Griggs has said in interviews that she thinks Jeffrey Dahmer was connected to CIA black ops.

Jeffrey Dahmer preyed on young male heroin addicted prostitutes, many of them of black or foreign descent, and severed their limbs, etc.
I do think it would have been interesting to hear what William Burroughs thought of the Jeffery Dahmer situation. (I was not saying that I thought his audio story was based on Dahmer. I meant that Burroughs seemed to have prior knowledge of similar situations, so it would have been interesting to hear what he had to say about it.)

some interesting details of Burroughs' life:

- at 15 he was sent to a Masonic training camp known as 'ranch school'.
- the 'ranch school' was actually the home of America's only mounted
Boy Scout troop, and was located at Los Allamos, which later became a nuclear research facility and military base.


Also, the title of this thread is incorrect. I would not use the term 'CIA agent' in reference to Burroughs. The phrase that I used was "Burroughs was CIA",
ie: an asset , possibly an MKUltra mind controlled assassin who did not even officially work as a CIA agent, but was nonetheless an asset performing work for the agency under various 'alters'.
His writings seem to suggest involvement with alter egos, missing time,
violence, and narcotics .

This could also explain why someone high up ensured that Burroughs got away with fatally shooting his own wife in the head.

related thread:

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=42...26936#post12388


It is a common mafia tactic to demand proof that a commissioned hit has been carried out, in the form of a hand or finger provided from the corpse of the victim.

I would recommend that anyone who watches Naked Lunch watch it with an eye for metaphor.
The film could be a metaphor for what William Burroughs true life was.
It could be that he worked as an assassin for the CIA exterminating 'bugs' (bothersome targets, security risks, people who knew too much etc.), and that there is a sideline to this profession in selling the actual body parts of one's targets on some human flesh market.



Could this be what Dahmer truly was? Another Burroughs, who killed heroin junkies, 'projects', child prostitutes, drug mules,
etc., for the CIA to shut them up once they had outlived their usefulness?

repost missing video links

[soulja]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Tanglewood.Tales.cover.jpg

Tanglewood, hollywood, or like in the following movie, thornwood.

http://www.joblo.com/images_arrownews/SatanicPanicPoster%5B44.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1039985/
Inspired by true accounts and the craze that took place in the late 1970's and early 80's, follows in the footsteps of classic horror films from that generation. In 1980, ten year old twins Toby and Cindy Richards were abducted by a group of demented satanic cult members. Cindy managed to escape, but Toby was never found. Twenty-five years later, a group of six friends take a canoe trip to re-kindle their friendship, only to find themselves in trouble with crazy, small town locals and the same satanic cult that took Toby years ago. Can the friends make it out of the town of Thornwood alive and in one piece, or will the become victims of sacrifice.

Another movie with the typical mirror = door to alternate reality theme.

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie-gallery/albums/userpics//poster_dark_mirror.jpg

A photographer moves her family into a strange old house, where she discovers an alternate reality reflected in the glass... A dark reality that is closing in on her.

[grachtengordel]

After such a long and exhaustive thread, there is still absolutely no evidence presented that Cobain was murdered by the CIA.
This thread is a disgrace to the forum.

Your comments are false and deceptive. No one is under any obligation to present "evidence" that cobain was murdered by cia. This thread is NOT a 'deposition', nor is there any time limit imposed on investigating the information pertinent to this topic.

This thread is the most informative, well researched and valuable of the entire forum. (despite video links going missing more than on ANY other topic)

Big respect and genuine thanks to the researchers and contributers on this thread, especially HunkaHunka and Soulja. keep up the good work guys

[grachtengordel]

watch this incredible lecture by Fritz Springmeir, from 1997. The amount of general knowledge he has is mind boggling, and for anyone who was clueless about all of this stuff years ago, like I was, I can imagine what their reaction would have been to being hit with all this at one time, for the first time. Try to imagine yourself seeing this back in 1997, compared to today.
I can imagine some people in the audience, back then, thinking he was making this stuff up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxguuiPgQWc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SQV7uij3sA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjtAVhwmmKk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUHXJefOcEI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr2dL9Qassk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwAtCfl3-vE&feature=related

Why do vid links always go missing on THIS thread? Is someone 'hacking' and trying to hide this info?

[soulja]

Your comments are false and deceptive. No one is under any obligation to present "evidence" that cobain was murdered by cia. This thread is NOT a 'deposition', nor is there any time limit imposed on investigating the information pertinent to this topic.

This thread is the most informative, well researched and valuable of the entire forum. (despite video links going missing more than on ANY other topic)

Big respect and genuine thanks to the researchers and contributers on this thread, especially HunkaHunka and Soulja. keep up the good work guys

You don't even have to read this thread to realize there is something dodgy about Cobain's death. But, if you do read the thread and still can't see, at the very least, a few signs of an MK/CIA connection to Cobain (and scores of other artists) then you're beyond help anyway.

[hunkahunka]

quote:

Reverend Jim Jones was definitely a willing participant in the MKultra experiments. I believe his anti-imperialist leanings were a cover. Jim Jones had suspicious connections spanning most of his life. The first was Dan Mitrione (Graduate of the CIA sponsored International Police Acadamy). Jones and Mitrione had been fast friends since childhood. In 1961 Jones travelled to Brazil with Mitrione(who was working closely with the CIA at that point). Jones lived in an expansive house while in Brazil and both lodgings and food were paid for by the American Embassy. He informed his Brazilian neighbours that he was in the employ of Navy Intelligence. While in Brazil, he made frequent trips to 'Belo Horizonte', the headquarters of the CIA in Brazil. In 1963 Jones returned to the United States, With an unexplained windfall of $10,000, enough to begin his next operation.
The Ukiah site of the People's Temple was near 'The Happy Havens Rest Home', guarded by electric fences, guard towers, dogs and armed guards dressed in black. People who attempted to leave were sometimes forcibly restrained. There were at least 150 foster children living at the home along with elderly persons, prisoners, and psychiatric patients. During this time the People's Temple made associations with the Mendocino State Mental Hospital where the group trained in medical techniques. It is reported that in a short while the entire staff at the hospital became members of the People's Temple. Researcher Michael Meiers reported, "The Mendocino Plan was a pilot program of the federal government designed to evaluate the feasibility of deinstitutionalizing the mentally ill. Dennis Denny, Mendocino's Director of Social Services, has speculated that the Mendocino Plan was the sole reason that Jone moved to Ukiah." While in Ukiah the group conducted behavior modification experiments on both hospital patients and Jones' congregation. Sensory deprivation was utilized by Jones on some of his congregation. It is said that Jones passed on his expertise to Donald DeFreeze(SLA). While in Ukiah Jones was reported to have been in contact with 'World Vision(CIA)'. World Vision employed Mark David Chapman. John Hinkley, Sr. ran a World Vision in Denver, Colorado.
In Ukiah Jones busied himself in elite social circles, he allied himself with Walter Heady (John Birch Society). Members of the Temple organized voting drives for Richard Nixon, worked with the Republican Party, and Jones was appointed chairman of the county grand jury. Many of the upper echelon of the People's Temple were recruited while in Ukiah. According to John Judge, "Most of the top lieutenants around Jones were from wealthy, educated backgrounds, many with connections to the military or intelligence agencies. These were the people who would set up the bank accounts, complex legal actions, and financial records that put people under the Temple's control."
The Layton family financed Jones with large sums of money, they are related to wealthy British and German Families. Dr. Lawrence Layton was Chief of Chemical and Ecological Warfare at the infamous Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah, working later at the Navy Propellant Division, as Director of Missile and Satellite Development. Layton's Stockbroker father-in-law represented I.G. Farben.
George Philip Blakey, the man reported to have made the original $650,000 deposit on the land at Guyana was the husband of the former Debbie Layton. His parents had large holdings in Solvay Drugs, a division of I.G.Farben.
Timothy Stoen, Assistant District Attorney of San Francisco, allegedly another prominant member of the Temple. Jones used his congregation to organise a voting drive for Mayor Moscone, and was rewarded by being put in charge of the San Francisco Housing Commision. Many of Jones' followers obtained jobs at the city Welfare Department where more recuits were signed up.
Mysterious deaths, reported in the local press were connected to the Temple, scrutiny was increased by politicians and media, apparently causing the move to Guyana. Guyana was not Jones' initial choice, he had originally picked Grenada and had deposited $200,000 in the Granada National Bank. After the Massacre $76,000 remained in the bank.
The Jonestown site had earlier been the site of a Union Carbide bauxite and manganese mine. The Guyana site was prepared with the cooperation of the local officials and the U.S. Embassy. The Information Services Company states that; "The U.S. Embassy in Georgetown Guyana housed the Georgetown CIA station. It now appears that the majority and perhaps all of the embassy officials were CIA officers operating under State Dept. Covers." Among embassy officials verified as being agents of the CIA are U.S. Ambassador John Burke, who attempted to stop Congressman Leo Ryans investigation of Jonestown. Dan Webber, who was at the site the day after the massacre and Chief Consular Officer Richard McCoy(on loan from the Defense Dept.), were reportedly 'close' to Jones.
The hierarchical structure at Jonestown was composed of all white male camp guards who received special privileges, they could leave the camp freely and carry money. Some of these guards had been employed as mercenaries in Africa and elsewhere. The guards survived the massacre. The rest of the camp was 90% women and 80% black, these people existed under slave-like conditions, working 16-18 hours a day, witrh miserable rations. When Black members of the Temple arrived from the U.S., they were bound and gagged before being taken to the compound. Perceived infractions within Jonestown led to forced drugging, public rape, torture and beatings.
Jeannie Mills, a member of the Temple, claimed to have seen films taken inside a Chilean torture camp while at Jonestown. These films were either taken at the Colonia Dignidad or another located at Pisagua. These camps have documented connections to the CIA as well as to Fourth Reich Nazis.
The Jonestown massacre was probably instigated by the arrival of Congressman Leo Ryan, who was probably the most active investigator in Washington of CIA abuses, and without a doubt Number 1 on the Agencies Hate List. Ryan had introduced the Hughes-Ryan Amendment to the National Assistance Act, transferring the overseeing of the CIA from the Armed Forces Committee.
Ryan had uncovered information linking the CIA to the creation of mind control cults, including the Unification Church of Reverend Sung Myung Moon, and the Symbionese Liberation Army. In response to stories of atrocities at Jonestown, Ryan decided to investigate for himself- this decision ultimately led to his death.
After travelling to Jonestown and attempting to return to the U.S., Ryan, several reporters, and a Jonestown defector were killed on the airstrip at Port Kaituma, the massacre followed shortly after. Observers reported that Ryan's group were killed by armed men who acted like "zombies".
Cheering was heard 45 minutes after the mass death at Jonestown, and those people have never been accounted for. Robert Pastor, an aide to Zbigniew Brzezinski, at the time Natioal Security advisor to Jimmy Carter, sent orders to the U.S. military to remove " all politically sensitive papers and forms of I.D. from the bodies.
Dr. MooToo, a Guyanese pathologist, the first medical person at the scene, and the first to examine the bodies of the victims declared that there were fresh needle marks on the left shoulder blades of 80-90% of the bodies. Some of the victims had been shot or strangled. The gun that Jones had reportedly shot himself with was found 200 feet away from his body. Mootoo concluded to the Guyanese Grand Jury that all but 3 of the victims had not committed suicide, but were murdered. When autopsies were performed at Dover, Delaware, the forensic doctors were not informed of Dr. MooToo's findings.
The body identified as Jim Jones did not have Jones' chest tattoos, and was so decomposed that it was not recognizable. Fingerprints on the body were checked twice, for no apparent reason. Jones' dental records were not consulted.
The Recovery of the bodies to the U.S. were botched, with all I.D. removed, and a delay of a week before the bodies were transported. Rotting made autopsies impossible. Due to the decomposition only 17 bodies were identified in Delaware, although the Guyanese had initially identified 174 bodies, that information was destroyed.
At least 200 people survived Jonestown, they were never contacted by the press. Jeannie and Al Mills, two survivors who planned to write a book about their experience were murdered, as well as another survivor in Detroit. According to John Judge, "Yet another was involved in a mass murder of schoolchildren in Los Angeles".
At the time of the massacre, CIA agent Richard Dwyer, Deputy Chief of Mission for the U.S. Embassy in Guyana was present. In a tape recording made immediately prior to the killings, Jones can be heard saying, "Get Dwyer out of here."
At the end Jones had accumulated a wealth estimated to be between $26 million and $2 billion. The government receivership determined a figure of $10 million. Much of this money has unaccountably disappeared.
Joe Holsinger, Congressman Leo Ryan's attorney and friend, said that a few hours after the murder of Ryan he had heard from a White House official that "We have a CIA report from the scene." Holsinger wrote, " The more I investigate the mysteries of Jonestown, the more I am convinced there is something sinister behind it all. There is no doubt in my mind that Jones had very close CIA connections. At the time of the tragedy, the Temple had three boats in the water off Brazil. The boats disappeared shortly afterward. Remember, Brazil is a country that Jones is very familiar with. He is supposed to have money there. And it is not too far from Guyana. My own feeling is that Jones was ambushed by CIA agents who then disappeared in the boats. But the whole story is so mind-boggling that I'm willing to concede he escaped with them."

Congressman Ryan had been investigating the MK Ultra program before he went down to Guyana, and seemed to have a hate on for the CIA. He was author of a bill called the Hughes-Ryan Amendment that targeted them directly.


Existing law--the Hughes-Ryan amendment--prohibits only CIA from using appropriated funds to carry out covert actions without a Presidential finding and reporting to the committees. The oversight title applies this restriction to all agencies.

Existing law--the Hughes-Ryan amendment and the 1980 Oversight Act--applies only to covert actions undertaken by CIA and does not include covert actions undertaken by other elements of the Government. Executive Order 12333 fills the gap by applying the requirement for a Presidential finding and reporting to the intelligence committees to all agencies. The oversight title would by law extend this requirement to any element of the Government which is used to carry out a covert action, not simply CIA.

www.fas.org...

This would have required that the CIA report all their covert actions to Congress and get pre-approval from the President.

So, just maybe, he went to Jonestown (or was lured there ) and was then assassinated by mind-controlled members, under orders of the CIA.

Re: the luring of Leo Ryan to Jonestown:

Larry Layton, Dr. Layton's son, was the only person who ever went to trial for the assassination of Leo Ryan. He was initially acquitted but was retried and is serving a life sentence.

Jeannie and Al Mills were formerly known as Deanna and Elmer Mertle. The Mertles were the Public Relations officers for the People's Temple. They changed their names when they left the Temple in 1975. The Mertles founded the Human Foundation Center, a counseling center for 'former cult members'. These lieutenants of Jim Jones and a few other of the inner core of the Temple left at the same time to become 'Concerned Relatives'. The Mertles played the major role in luring Leo Ryan to Jonestown.
After the murder of the Mertles (including their teen-aged daughter) on February 26, 1980, a friend of the dead family reported to a local police station that a psychiatrist once employed at the Centre had committed the murders.

Michael Meiers book "Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?"
Meiers states: The Jonestown experiment was conceived by Dr. Layton, Staffed by Dr. Layton and financed by Dr. Layton. It was as much his project as it was Jim Jones'. Though it was essential for him to remain in the background for security reasons, Dr. Layton maintained contact with and even control of the experiment through his wife and children."
Survivors of the tragedy have staunchly maintained that Jim Jones was "an employee, servant, agent or operative of the CIA".
In October 1981 the survivors launched a $63 million lawsuit against Secretary of State Cyrus Vance and Stansfield Turner, former Director of the CIA. The suit, filed in U.S. district court of San Francisco, accused Turner of Conspiring with Agency operatives to "enhance the economic and political powers of James Warren Jones", and of conducting "mind control and drug experimentation" on the followers.
The lawsuit was dismissed four months later for "failure to prosecute timely." All requests for an appeal were denied.

[montyone]

Springmeier is the Mac Daddy of writers on this subject. A lot of people on this forum are huge fans. He may well be putting some good information out there, I don't know, I only know the extracts that have been posted in various places. However as I mentioned earlier in the thread these articles (linked from illuminati-news) say some pretty damning things about him:

http://www.eaec.org/expose/FritzSpringmeier1.htm
http://www.eaec.org/expose/FritzSpringmeier2.htm

There's clearly a hell of a lot child abuse going though, I just don't know how much of it is deliberate programming.



...Springemeier has quite some Information, not everything
is "Truth", "absolute fact" or some similar ridiculous simplification
of ( our more or less ) shared Reality.
Springemeier is no coward - he names some fakepriests
and Liars, regardless of their position and wealth - now
that is one freaking nice foundation for Research
and spreading Knowledge IMHO!

There is more...BUT what has " Mr. Debunk" shown
when it comes to Credibility?
Lets face it smearing + biblequotism does not hide
actual Spirit or Agenda..
That Debunker LOOOOOVES the " Federal Gov.":D
and he sooo knows his Bible, that acting in
ways JesusChrist possibly would have acted becomes all but secondary.:rolleyes:

So maybe I'm a terrorist after all...Not some Pig or borderline
Federal - Nazi though.

[runciter]

Take a look at Nathaniel Hawthorne's House of the Seven Gables it's practically a blow by blow of a 19th century family coming to terms with ritual abuse. Very eye opening. I'm surprised no one has mentioned it before. And I completely agree about the witch trials being a false flag operation. I think they were actually started by dark occultists to take any possible scrutiny off themselves!

according to john todd:

LET ME QUICKLY REMIND YOU, NO WITCHES WERE EXECUTED IN SALEM. There will be a book coming out shortly on this from Chick Publications. Except for one prostitute, everybody executed in Salem were Christians, and they were tried and convicted by a jury and by a pastor who was not a pastor but a slave trader hired by the Collins. The church was built by the Collins and the jury were all members of the Collins' church. Needles to say, they weren't Christians, they were Witches. We went back there and researched it!

http://www.kt70.com/~jamesjpn/articles/john_todd_and_the_illuminati.htm

[hunkahunka]

according to john todd

Quote:
LET ME QUICKLY REMIND YOU, NO WITCHES WERE EXECUTED IN SALEM. There will be a book coming out shortly on this from Chick Publications. Except for one prostitute, everybody executed in Salem were Christians, and they were tried and convicted by a jury and by a pastor who was not a pastor but a slave trader hired by the Collins. The church was built by the Collins and the jury were all members of the Collins' church. Needles to say, they weren't Christians, they were Witches. We went back there and researched it!
http://www.kt70.com/~jamesjpn/articles/john_todd_and_the_illuminati.htm#toddaudio

thanks for the excellent link, Runciter, I had been searching high and low
for this information since I saw it briefly mentioned on Youtube comments,
but could not find the source . Thanks so much.

Audio:

http://www.kt70.com/~jamesjpn/jt/Todd_1a.mp3

Todd's testimony about the occult world, the Illuminati, the Collins family, introduction of witchcraft to America, etc! 41 minutes

http://www.deeptruths.com/reduced_jt_1/Todd_5a.mp3

[mountain]

Take a look at Nathaniel Hawthorne's House of the Seven Gables it's practically a blow by blow of a 19th century family coming to terms with ritual abuse. Very eye opening. I'm surprised no one has mentioned it before. And I completely agree about the witch trials being a false flag operation. I think they were actually started by dark occultists to take any possible scrutiny off themselves!

I actually own that book! All this time, I never read it and this is a subject I am researching alot ... Thanks :)

[runciter]

thanks for the excellent link, Runciter, I had been searching high and low
for this information since I saw it briefly mentioned on Youtube comments,
but could not find the source . Thanks so much.

Audio:

http://www.kt70.com/~jamesjpn/jt/Todd_1a.mp3

Todd's testimony about the occult world, the Illuminati, the Collins family, introduction of witchcraft to America, etc! 41 minutes

http://www.deeptruths.com/reduced_jt_1/Todd_5a.mp3

i'm glad to be of some help hunka, this thread is a goldmine of information.

[rodin]

masonic zodiacs in DC makes for interesting reading in :The Secret Zodiacs of Washington DC: Was the City of Stars Planned by Masons? by David Ovason (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Secret-Zodiacs-Washington-DC-Planned/dp/0099164728/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257433831&sr=8-2)

the problem is that the states was supposedly consecrated for good but overrun by evil. the best way to "save the republic" is to have a complete clean up of infection (evil/corruption) on all levels, and i think Jones knows that too well, but how many is paying attention?

Alex Jones is covering for the elite - couple good articles here and very insightful comments too

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?cat=311

[rodin]

i'm glad to be of some help hunka, this thread is a goldmine of information.

+1 got some catching up to do this thread grows so fast ;)

[hunkahunka]

i'm glad to be of some help hunka, this thread is a goldmine of information.

these John Todd audios are fascinating, though they date back to the mid- 1970's, its enlightening to consider that these insiders were talking about this before the internet.
How could Todd have known all of this prior to the internet, unless he was actually an insider? He even discusses all the occult corporate logos decades before others made it known.

The following audio clip discusses Ayn Rand's novel 'Atlas Shrugged', as an Illuminati blueprint for the destruction of the world, the movie of the HP Lovecraft story 'The Dunwich Horror' , (starring Sandra Dee) as "the strongest and most truthful movie about witch craft and their beliefs that ever existed", the Necronomicon, Mormonism, the book of Enoch, rites of human sacrifice (Warrior on the Block rite), fake oil shortages, plans
to destroy the food supply, Illuminati pirate hijackings of ships,
Rockefeller ownership of all U.S. businesses, planned destruction of all money etc.

Part A:
http://www.kt70.com/~jamesjpn/jt/Todd_3a.mp3

Part B:
http://www.deeptruths.com/reduced_jt_1/Todd_3b.mp3

John Todd discusses the Salem Witch trials, Charles Manson, Sharon Tate murder, Process Church, epilepsy, demon possession, Jimmy Carter, mind control etc: (40 minutes)

http://www.deeptruths.com/reduced_jt_1/Todd_2b.mp3

[hunkahunka]

video:

(Dunwich Horror trailers, for anyone wondering once the video links are removed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbWyUEKSVd0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM8EbSvNFqg

[rodin]

Funny old world I grew up with the entire Lovecraft collection

H P same initials as Blavatsky and of course the sauce

[soulja]

I wonder what really happened to Todd? did they take him out? lock him away for good? He had his flaws, which is no suprise growing up in an illuminati family, but the info he brought to the table was/is mostly spot on.

Like this: (it's what we're seeing right now)

Their sole purpose is to bankrupt their own companies & destroy their own companies until they destroyed the currency of the whole World, & still be so financially strong they would withstand it

Also his info on witchcraft and the music industry is very interesting.

The cornerstone of the whole floor of witchcraft is that you cannot mix a potion, you cannot do a rite without a firm knowledge of astrology. It is the base for all practices in Witchcraft, & one of its teachings is that you are born a set personality & there is nothing you can do to change from that set personality. You don’t leave witchcraft. Once you’re in, you’re in!The greatest Wizard that that ever lived was King Solomon. As great as his writings were in our Bible, they were as great in the Witchcraft bibles: initiation rites, how to conjure demons up, everything, even how to commit human sacrifices are writings that he created.The Star of David has just recently been called the star of David. For thousands of years it was called the Hexagram or the Crest of Solomon.

Now when a witch wants to practice witchcraft, she’ll get in a pentagram, that’s the five-pointed star in the circle, their strongest form of protection. Then they will lay this six-pointed star, or hexagram -- which means “to hex” or to cast black magic or to put a spell on somebody – they’ll put it in a circle on the floor & this will cause the demons to appear at their instructions. It is the most evil sign of witchcraft. It’s dangerous to have it.The pentagram, the pinnacle with the one point up, means Witchcraft; two points up means demon-worship or Satanism. A two points up, five-pointed star symbolises the goat head, which is representative of the devil.

The Ankh means that you despise virginity, believe in fertility rites, practice fertility rites & worship the sun god Ra, the Egyptian name for Lucifer.

How often have we seen a celebrity with an ankh tattoo in this thread?
Just one quick example:
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_04/winehouseSDMS_1000x732.jpg

The peace symbol is the broken cross. If a Christian wants to join Witchcraft, they would have to take a ceramic cross & turn it upside-down & break the cross bars down, symbolising their rejection of Calvary. This is said to bring you peace of mind while you practice Witchcraft, that’s where it got the word “Peace Symbol” comes from.

They are in the process of a Trial-&-Error right now, & they test things. They tested what it would be like to be without fuel to heat homes. They are going to see if they can’t starve you, absolutely shut all electricity off.The timetable in the book “Atlas Shrug” ended with this: “When the Lights of New York City go out for the last time, we will have the World.”Towards the end they are going to cut the cities off completely, nothing will move for months.They are in the process of destroying all stored food & farmland, so that we will be without any food in the cities or in the country or anywhere except what is in the Federal storehouses. Nothing is going to move at all. If you live in a big city, how are you going to get your food if they don’t bring it to you? Everything will be paralysed, nothing will move. At the same time there will be riot & revolution in the whole World.Charles Manson went to prison for a reason.There is a mass army within every prison from coast to coast, he has them united. He has been gathering an army & the one thing that will hold their plan up is if they don’t get the gun law passed. They have been promised that all the guns will be confiscated before they make their move.They have been set up just so they will kill one million people & I will leave it to you imagination who is scheduled to be killed. This is just so that they can get the national guard called out.

The whole thing is, if you can be independent of Federal help, their plan won’t work. You must be dependent on the Federal Government for every bite of food, every warmth that you feel coming through your homes. You must be dependent on them.

Tarot Cards: Every drawing means something & the demons control how they fall, nothing in Witchcraft is ever 100% accurate.

The Illuminati will use Israel to gain control of the World.The only thing the Illuminati fear is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm & defend themselves separate from Federal help. They have never been this organised.

Is Rock music an outgrowth of Witchcraft?

You can’t practice Witchcraft without it!!!!
Most of the rock groups are members of a Witchcraft Church, that’s their religion, & when they do a song they’ll ask the Witch coven or the temple to cast a spell over that song so that it will become a hit & sell. When a witch casts a spell they order demons to do things. When you buy an album it’s you who gets a free surprise …..it’s called a demon!

It goes along with the record. Much of the music is written in Witch language by witches. Elton John has made the statement that he has never written or sung a song that was not in Witch language. “Beyond the Yellow Brick Road” is 100% Witch language. That’s why many songs, you don’t understand. That’s why many people who listen to them don’t understand until they get high on drugs & then all of a sudden the meanings start coming to them.

Many songs have been written in Witch language such as the whole album by Carol King called “Tapestry”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carole_King

The book of prophecy to witches is the double white album that the Beatles produced containing the song “Helter Skelter”. Every song in it is prophesy. Oh let’s see…”Horse With No Name”, “One Tin Soldier”, I could list thousands of songs that were written this way. They definitely have demonic influence behind them.

Have you noticed the increase of rebellion in teenagers in your home? It’s your fault , you let them listen to it. It stirs up rebellion. It’s not the words
in the song, it’s the music. Witches know it, they hit certain chords on purpose.

The music is hypnotic. It stirs up a war-like nature in the young people.

It’s the truth: the supernatural is tied in with the music

Continues here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7563552/John-Todd-The-Illuminati-Witchcraft-Condensed

http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/4123/cover_6282128112008.jpg

Studio Album, released in 1969

Songs / Tracks Listing

1. Black Sabbath (3:32)
2. The White Witch of Rose Hall (3:08)
3. Coven in Charing Cross (4:04)
4. For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge (4:41)
5. Pact with Lucifer (3:32)
6. Choke, Thirst, Die (3:32)
7. Wicked Woman (3:01)
8. Dignitaries of Hell (4:09)
9. Portrait (2:37)
10. Satanic Mass (13:19)


Skull is only there to make sure the other initiates instantly recognize the group as one of them, i.e initiates. Obviously they don't have a giant register where all the witches and occultist can look up who is in the club and who isn't. So what they do is communicate through symbols. for the unaware a skull is just that, a skull. for the initiate it's a clear sign, a language. That, and they believe these symbols hold power.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Qe7OY4EAB9M/SnhfhzYF9eI/AAAAAAAAAqw/s3pbhad4BFk/s400/witchcraft.jpg

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/26a2ebca601c3ed781b9df198c1aceba/73273.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_scQG3wZxdPI/R-BUeVzelwI/AAAAAAAACnk/dOLuBa9PnxU/s400/Cover_SplitEP_300RGB.jpg

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/266a617f4b29956b48a6d30760173ea0/45772.jpg

http://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5639/2020/400/AerosmithspaAlbumspaCover.jpg

http://www.amiright.com/album-covers/images/album-Misfits-Evilive.jpg

http://sabbathrock.com/images/anton-lavey3.jpg

I could go on forever posting skull pics, one last example, this time from germany.
http://www.mzee.com/data/img/news/event/sido1.jpg

High profile rapper Sido's trademark is his skull mask. his crew/label is called 'Die Sekte' (the sect) the only female artist on the label goes by the name ''kitty kat'' Their album covers are full of masonic symbolism, as is the whole german rap scene, just like all the other scenes. what's more, the underlying theme of mind control is also visible in some of their covers/songs/etc.
http://www.bumbanet.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/sido_singlecover1.jpg

[soulja]

The peace symbol is the broken cross. If a Christian wants to join Witchcraft, they would have to take a ceramic cross & turn it upside-down & break the cross bars down, symbolising their rejection of Calvary. This is said to bring you peace of mind while you practice Witchcraft, that’s where it got the word “Peace Symbol” comes from.



http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss296/barrydeleon/lady-gaga-stripper.jpg

Album cover of the band 'komodo wagon'
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm217/komodowagon2/KOMODO%20ARTWORK/WebsiteCoverA3.jpg
''The beauty and the broken cross''

another album of them:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s143/atrompa2006/sub2/KomodoEP.jpg[/IMG]

[soulja]

according to john todd:

LET ME QUICKLY REMIND YOU, NO WITCHES WERE EXECUTED IN SALEM. There will be a book coming out shortly on this from Chick Publications. Except for one prostitute, everybody executed in Salem were Christians, and they were tried and convicted by a jury and by a pastor who was not a pastor but a slave trader hired by the Collins. The church was built by the Collins and the jury were all members of the Collins' church. Needles to say, they weren't Christians, they were Witches. We went back there and researched it!

http://www.kt70.com/~jamesjpn/articles/john_todd_and_the_illuminati.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/salem-witch_city.jpg



http://www.randi.org/images/commentary/200706/cabot.jpg

Laurie Cabot is an American Witchcraft high priestess, and was one of the first people to popularize Witchcraft in the United States. She is the author of such books as The Power of the Witch, The Witch in Every Woman, Celebrate the Earth, while also founding the Cabot Tradition of the Science of Witchcraft and the Witches' League for Public Awareness to defend the civil rights of Witches everywhere. In the 1970s, Cabot was declared the "official Witch of Salem, Massachusetts", by then-Governor Michael Dukakis, to honor her work with special needs children.

She continues to reside in Salem, where she owns a shop called The Cat, the Crow, and the Crown. Cabot claims to be related to the prominent Boston Brahmin Cabot family. She is perhaps one the most high-profile Witches in the world. She is a part of Salem lore, and a bona-fide local celebrity in that city and throughout Massachusetts's North Shore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Cabot

Another famous witch is Fiona Horne.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f258/NewtGurl/Fiona%20Horne/Tattoos/fiona-horne2.jpg
Note the symbol to the right.

Fiona Horne is known in the USA, UK and Australia as a leading expert on Modern Witchcraft and as an accomplished television/radio host and best selling author. She is also an actor and rock singer.

Fiona Horne is the world's best selling author on Modern Witchcraft. Her current eight titles are published by HarperCollins and Random House with a new title - 'Bewitch A Man' published by Simon and Schuster in Fall 2006, USA and in Australia, January 2007.

In May 2006 Fiona Horne was invited to speak at Harvard University, USA, on Witchcraft and Paganism.

Born in Australia, Fiona Horne has been based in Los Angeles for the past 6 years. She was lead singer/songwriter for popular Australian Top 40 techno/rock group DEF FX, releasing three albums and touring locally and internationally.

This success laid foundations for a varied broadcasting and publishing career for Fiona. She hosted 2002's U.K. love-advice show Sexy Spells (Granada/Sky Broadcasting), the 13-part series Party! (2000) for Australia's Channel 9 Network and guest hosted Russell Gilbert Live and her own music show Ground Zero interviewing Britney Spears, Melissa Etheridge and Tom Jones. For two years she was a regular panelist on Australia's number 1 daytime talk show, Beauty and the Beast.

2004 saw Fiona Horne as a star cast member in USA SciFi Channel's hit original series 'Mad Mad House'.

In 2006 Fiona Horne starred in Channel 7, Australia's Celebrity Survivor.

Fiona starred in the opening season of the Australian production of The Vagina Monologues and played good time girl Cherry in 2005's independent US film, Unbeatable Harold also starring Dylan McDermont and Henry Winkler. In January 2006 she wrapped filming on Cult starring as Professor Diane Estabrook, also starring Rachel Miner and Taryn Manning. Cult is released in the USA, March 2007

Fiona Horne's personal passions include herpetology (she is a licensed snake handler) travel and SCUBA diving. She is an expert diver and works regularly for the SCUBA accreditation organization PADI, hosting, demonstrating and doing voice over for their instructional videos, television and radio commercials including voicing the National Geographic/PADI Underwater Explorer DVD series.

FionaHorne's charity is Project Aware - an international ocean conservation effort.

http://www.girl.com.au/graphics/fiona_horne1.jpg

What Modern Witches Are:

"Witches honour nature as sacred, we recognise a Goddess as well as a God and we do spells and rituals to help and heal not only ourselves, but those we love and the planet."
- Fiona Horne



The next two pics speak for themselves:
http://www.bitememagazine.com/images/general/vixens/fiona-horne-main.jpg
http://www.femail.com.au/img/fiona-may.jpg

If it wasn't already obvious that she is part of the 'club' then it should be now. But alone the fact that she's the worlds best selling author on witchcraft, and a witch herself, should be enough to know what she's about. And who stands behind her. She is another one of a long line of tools to promote witchcraft, market it as something 'cool' and 'liberating' - 'white magic' like Sabrina and charmed.

http://www.godlovespeople.com/Sins%20of%20the%20American%20People/sabrina_witch.gif

And of course Harry Potter, probably the most effective tool of em all when it comes to the appeal of witchcraft to the youth.
http://www.artgazine.com/shoutouts/images/War/jk_rowling-devil.jpg

The band Witchcraft
http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/65/ArtistWitchcraftAlbumFirewood.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/hiway99r/Witchcraft13-BloodOfTheChosen1.jpg

It's funny how the symbols (triggers) of MK are the same symbols used by the secret societies and covens. Actually it's not, it would be strange if it wouldn't be that way, seeing as the same force stands behind both, the vast (and interlocking) secret society network, and mind control.

[prozest]

where a brilliant group .. but i dont think i have heard a more troubled mind why would he be murdered ?

[hunkahunka]

http://pds7.egloos.com/pds/200711/23/57/d0002457_474608baeb1f1.jpg

I just watched Gus Van Sant's fim 'Gerry' this weekend, and I can't say that I found
any connection to mind control or the occult, and not much
of any connection to the real life murder case of David Coughlin,
which the movie was said to mirror. At a guess , this film is
nothing but a whitewash of the real circumstances of the Coughlin
case, in a similar vein to Van Sant's 'Last Days' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Days_%28film%29) treatment
of the death of Kurt Cobain. Anyone who sees both Gerry and Last Days
will note the similarity. Both Gerry and Last Days are supposedly based on dramatic real
life events, but there is little more than mundane , empty, silent footage
throughout most of both films.

Both of them seem to serve the purpose of concealment , with the
same verdict in both: "The boredom did it". Yes, the Boredom did it
in the billiard room , with the candlestick.

It has to be intentional in both cases. Take a potentially explosive story of dramatic
death, and turn that life and death into the most insignificant spec of nothingness possible.
Also notable is that 'Gerry' and 'Last Days' offer nothing more than a feeble recount of the official story in both the Coughlin and Cobain deaths, and are noticeably empty of
any pertinent dialogue.

http://blog.roodo.com/madchester1984/c1af3477.jpg

One other notable suspicion that I came away with from watching 'Gerry' was that there may be subliminal messaging/hypnosis going on in this film. There are pointlessly long , repetitive scenes in it, that seem to stretch on forever with no other purpose than to possibly hypnotize the viewer.

For example, there is one segment of the two men marching side by side through the desert, with one camera shot that lasts a full FOUR minutes. Nothing but the same camera shot, the same closeup profile of their two faces, as they march through the desert, for a full four minutes (240 seconds) and no sound but the same monotonous marching of their feet, which was oddly modified to sound like they were splashing through
marsh land. I suspect that there may be some type of embedded hypnotic messaging included in this film.

http://www.reverseshot.com/files/images/issue21/gerry.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g57/nkosub/Last.jpg

[soulja]

Satanism and Ritual Abuse Archive

by Diana Napolis, M.A.

The following cases describe legal proceedings held in Juvenile, Family, Civil and Criminal Courts around the world where there have been allegations of Satanism or the use of Ritual to abuse others.
http://www.endritualabuse.org/ritualabusearchive.htm

[soulja]

Abusive Witchcraft "Sacred Ground"

http://www.endritualabuse.org/smallfromsouth.jpg
Oblong Rock Configuration and Base of Altar

http://www.endritualabuse.org/smallereastnortheast.jpg
Trifurcated Tree in Oblong Ring; Huge Split Tree with Parts on Ground in Background

Multi-generational Fertility Cult (Abusive Witchcraft) "Sacred Ground", by Ellen Lacter, Ph.D., 1-7-2006

The rock formations in these photographs represent what is most likely the "Sacred Ground" of a ritually-abusive "Multi-generational Fertility Cult". I am referring to "Witchcraft Ritual Abuse", not Wicca.

Witchcraft ritual abuse and Satanic ritual abuse both include human sacrifice and sexual torture of children. However, Satanism and Witchcraft attach very different meanings to these crimes, worship different deities, and are rivals in their failing goals of world domination. See the page on this website entitled; "Overview of the Differences between Satanism and Witchcraft".

Memories of Witchcraft ritual abuse, the personalities affected by these abuses, and Witchcraft programming, are almost always buried more deeply in the unconscious mind than the memories, personalities, and programming associated with Satanic ritual abuse and abuse by groups with political/military agendas. The abusive methods used by Witchcraft affect the psyche and spirit more profoundly, and block memory more effectively. In many cases of ritual abuse, one of the survivors parents (and the lineage on that side) was involved in Satanism, and the other parent (and lineage) was involved in Witchcraft. The side practicing Witchcraft will likely know everything that is happening on the Satanist side, but the Satanist side will not understand very much of what the Witchcraft side is doing.

These pictures are posted here to expose abusive Witchcraft to the light of day, with the goal of helping ritual abuse survivors overcome the effects of Witchcraft ritual abuse.

Witches would have chosen this site as a ritual site because it contains a number of features they view as holy. Note that the photographs of the oblong ring of rocks (about 26 feet in length) include a trifurcated tree, or three trees that have grown together. The number three is sacred in witchcraft. Such a tree would be considered sacred, thus the ring of rocks constructed around it.

Behind this tree is a huge and ancient tree that is split in four parts, with three now lying on the ground, and one still standing. This tree was likely the largest and oldest tree in the area for quite some time. The trunk is about five feet in diameter. Witches would see it as the most holy tree in the area, signifying the eternalness of Witchcraft. The group would thus choose this site for their "Sacred Ground". In rituals, the witch group would likely dance around this huge tree.

Between the two trees is a pit (about 6 feet in diameter). This pit would signify part of the "womb of mother earth" to Witchcraft. Blood would likely be poured into such a pit.

The oblong ring of rocks and two above-described trees, are situated between two streams, which would make this site especially holy in the eyes of Witchcraft. Both streams run from east to west. The site itself is on an east-west axis, with the tree on the west. This orientation is the strong preference in Witchcraft, and will occur less frequently in Satanic ritual sites.

The oblong ring of rocks has the tree at one end, and a concrete slab at the other end, which was likely used as the base of an altar. This configuration is typical of a Witchcraft site. The actual altar would be stone and laid on the concrete slab for rituals.

In Satanism, the altar would be more likely placed in the center of the ritual site. The site itself would have four corners or a tree in the center. In Satanism, the altar often has space below it, since at times, a fire is lit under the altar.

In both abusive Witchcraft and Satanism, the actual altar would be movable, transported to the site for the ritual, and removed immediately afterwards.

The ground in the middle of the oblong ring of rocks is mounded. In abusive Witchcraft, stones, branches, twigs, and sacred objects attached with spiritual evil in abusive rituals would be buried in this mound.

There is a smaller (about 5 feet in diameter) ring of rocks adjacent to the trifurcated tree, on the south. This may have been used for fire, a necessary element in abusive Witchcraft rituals. Fire, air, earth, and "living water" (a moving stream) are all required. Dancing would occur around the fire, as well as around the huge tree.

The less-defined, more round, and larger circle (about 32 feet in diameter, and about 50 feet to the north of the smaller oblong ring) would also be a place to dance or watch as sexual and death sacrifices occurred to propitiate Witch deities in the smaller oblong circle.

This site is in San Diego County, California. It was revealed following the fires in late October, 2003 that cleared away a great deal of the brush. The site is still well-camouflaged. I hiked past it a number of times before spotting it. It was likely constructed about 50 years ago, judging by the apparent age of the concrete slab, and was likely not used for the past 30 years, when houses were constructed within about 200 yards of the site.

Stephen Oglevie, my mentor in understanding Satanic and abusive witchcraft practices, provided me with these distinctions between Witchcraft and Satanic ritual sites.
http://www.endritualabuse.org/Abusive%20Witchcraft.htm

[hunkahunka]

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/salem-witch_city.jpg


great find, Soulja.

"Salem - The Witch City"

That pic confirms my exact suspicions of what
the fake Salem witch trials succeeded in doing: creating a haven
for the occult.

Salem has become an American version of the holocaust museum.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nrebluTBiPs/SspA6s7bTxI/AAAAAAAAARg/b9AVMgasAkc/s320/4.+Salem+Witch+Museum+Night+Shot%28300dpi%29+-+Robert+Deschene.jpg
Salem Witch Museum, located in the Second Church Unitarian building, originally
a church built in 1845.

http://www.spiritart.com/Calendar/logos/SalemWitchMuseum.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VTR7Apkv5BM/Sla0jRFk7bI/AAAAAAAAAc4/yLsqrm42So8/s320/Salem-dummies.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nrebluTBiPs/SagaOLapGzI/AAAAAAAAAKw/Pzg8epwkV_k/S1600-R/HHBlogBanner2009.jpg

[hunkahunka]

Another notable similarity between the two Van Sant films 'Last Days' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Days_%28film%29)'
and 'Gerry' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_%28film%29), is that in both films the 'star' gets it in the end, and both in a 'mercy killing' sort of way. (Van Sant's depiction of Cobain's death is
that Cobain, dying of heroin addiction, quiet and emotionless, 'puts himself out of his misery',
while Coughlin's death is depicted as another oddly emotionless surrender
to fate, when, dying of dehydration in the desert, he announces to his friend "I'm Leaving", before going into his death throes, and being strangled to death
by his companion in a mercy killing.

In the film Gerry, which preceded 'Last Days'
Coughlin's death brought him fame, a mundane life depicted here marked only by the unusual circumstances of death. ie: a movie about his death, which in effect made him 'the star of the show':
http://www.reverseshot.com/files/images/issue21/gerry.jpg

in the same way, Kurt Cobain's spectacle death vaulted the life preceeding it to a previously unseen altitude
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g57/nkosub/Last.jpg
the star of the show


http://archive.sensesofcinema.com/images/06/38/last_days.jpg

LAST DAYS
Director Gus Van Sant
Stars Michael Pitt, Lukas Haas

Kurt to the chase
By Rachael Turk

He looks like Kurt Cobain. He sounds like Kurt Cobain. He almost certainly smells like teen spirit. But the lead character of Gus Van Sant's Last Days is not "based on" but "inspired by" the late rock legend.

Played by Michael Pitt (The Dreamers), the character Blake is the archetypal artist. He is all and any of the ill-fated creatives who have crossed Van Sant's path - River Phoenix, whom he directed in My Own Private Idaho (1991), and Elliot Smith, musician and friend. Even Pitt, an accomplished muso, embodies the Cobain myth with uncanny resemblance.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/08/26/cobain_narrowweb__200x291.jpg


Va­n Sant knew Cobain, too.

"We met him and Courtney [Love, Cobain's wife] at their manager's party," he says. "Later, Kurt called to try and get his friend a job on Cowgirls [Van Sant's Even Cowgirls Get the Blues] so we had a relationship in that way. And then I offered him a role in a film that winter that he died. I had sent a script to his manager, and Courtney said they got it and he'd read it but then he died. The movie I wrote later was in reaction to his death.


"The music I listened to much more after he died. When we were shooting Gerry, I would listen to Nirvana as a release. The drive to the set was an hour-and-a-half on a country road in Argentina, so I got to know it really well. It's very intricate. It almost sums up all of rock history.

"I once heard Keith Richards say it's bullshit, but if you actually understand it, it's brilliant and you can listen to it again and again and again."

Van Sant's previous two films drew on real-life events - the Palme d'Or-winning Elephant on the school shootings of Columbine, and the 2002 film Gerry on a news piece about two men lost in the desert - just as Last Days speculates about the final, lost days of Cobain. It is dedicated to Cobain but with an "inspired by" disclaimer.

In the case of this film, there's a particularly good reason. Courtney Love, now pregnant by actor-comedian Steve Coogan, is one litigious woman. She has sued Universal Music, Geffen Records, a former boyfriend's ex-wife who ran over her foot, and even surviving members of Nirvana - Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic - for control of the group's legacy.

Van Sant visited Love in 1996, when an earlier incarnation of Last Days was kicking around his head. He had asked her to play herself in a film that was more clearly a biopic.

"She said she could never ever do that, it was a very insane offer," he says. "I said, 'I think I'm going to make something where the guy is a 14-year-old and wandering around his house and doesn't know what to do with his death' and she thought that was a good idea.

"And years later we were talking about Courtney playing a role in Sarah, a J.T. LeRoy book I was adapting, and she brought up the Kurt movie and she thought I should do it.

She hasn't seen [Last Days] yet but I talked her through it."

Despite Love's apparent good will, Van Sant stopped short of using Cobain's music.

"Nirvana was too close to what we wanted to do," he says. "The movie isn't really meant to be about him. It's a lookalike. And I wanted the music to do the same thing."

Instead, Last Days has been called a homage, from one north-west artist to another. This tells more about the film's intent. There is a tone of respect, even reverence, in the length of each take, the painstaking construction of every frame. Hildegard Westerkamp's sound composition Doors of Perception melds foghorns, church bells and passing trains with the likes of the Velvet Underground to create a soundtrack of the deeply internal.

Sonic Youth frontrunners Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore, conscripted as music consultants on the film, knew Cobain well.

It was Moore who suggested they include Pitt's song Death to Birth as the film's swansong. And it's in this moment, perhaps, that the resemblance is both most eerie and profound.

Van Sant says Blake's is an everyman story about vulnerability and trying to escape.

"You try to go as far as you can, but if you actually get to the top you might be dissatisfied because you're always sort of dissatisfied. I think [Cobain] was like that; he was more dissatisfied with success than you would believe in his later days. And in this case he winds up dead. We'll all wind up dead eventually, so there's that, too."

[hunkahunka]

"And years later we were talking about Courtney playing a role in Sarah, a J.T. LeRoy book I was adapting, and she brought up the Kurt movie and she thought I should do it.



Sarah
J.T. LeRoy

Book Review
Judy Berman

Plot Summary of Sarah

"The main character of the novel is a twelve-year-old boy whose mother is a truck stop prostitute (a.k.a. lot lizard) named Sarah. Though she is a terrible, abusive, neglectful mother, the boy idolizes her beauty and the skill with which she manipulates men. In an attempt to surpass her in these departments, the boy begins working for a pimp named Glad who specializes in transvestite prostitutes. Glad is a kind pimp, and he won't let his youngest whore overwork himself. The boy, frustrated, journeys to see the Jackalope, an enormous piece of roadkill at a nearby truck stop, which is said to bring luck to all lot lizards who visit it. There, he meets Pooh, a young female prostitute, and her pimp, Le Loup, who mistakes him for a girl and offers to give him a job. From there, the adventures continue, as the boy is mistaken for a saint at his new truck stop. When it is revealed that he is not only a saint, but also a boy, life becomes dangerous for the boy. Luckily for him, Glad and the transvestite prostitutes have worked up a killer scheme to rescue him."

[hunkahunka]

this gets more twisted as it goes. The book 'Sarah' was eventually
morphed, with another LeRoy book, into the film The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heart_Is_Deceitful_Above_All_Things)
(bizarrely, JT Leroy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JT_LeRoy) is allegedly just a male pen name for female
author Laura Albert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Albert).(which , on reflection, I do not believe at all. I don't think Laura Albert wrote it, and I think the real male author will forever remain unknown, because he likes to write books about cross-dressing ten yr. old boy prostitutes. Oddly the film stars Marylin Manson as one of the men who rape the boy.

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/h/images/heart-is-deceitful-above-all-things-poster-0.jpg
mother and son


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/66/Heart_is_deceitful_above_all_things.jpg/405px-Heart_is_deceitful_above_all_things.jpg

Plot

The film revolves around a tattered relationship between Sarah (Argento), a drug addict, and her son, Jeremiah (played by Jimmy Bennett at age seven, and by Cole and Dylan Sprouse at age 11). Their life together is marked by drug-taking and heavy drinking. Sarah repeatedly becomes involved with a series of men who treat her and Jeremiah poorly, and uses them as an excuse to abandon her son. She disappears to Atlantic City with her current boyfriend, Emerson (Jeremy Renner), whom she then abandons; Emerson returns to their home and rapes Jeremiah. After a trip to the hospital, Jeremiah's grandmother takes him to a West Virginian radical Christian cult led by his grandfather (Peter Fonda). After three years with the cult, Sarah returns to reclaim a now 11-year-old Jeremiah. Sarah's current lover, Kenny, a truck driver, eventually abandons them at a stripjoint while Sarah is dancing. Sarah realizes that if she is going to keep her men, then she cannot say Jeremiah is her son. Jeremiah allows his mother to persuade him into cross dressing so he can act as her 'little sister', and Jeremiah's crossdressing evolves to include his mother's seduction techniques. After dressing up as a 'baby doll' version of Sarah, Jeremiah/Sarah seduces Jackson (Marilyn Manson), his mother's latest man, who initially tries to rebuff the boy's advances, but then rapes him. Furious with Jackson for giving in to the boy's advances and with Jeremiah for ruining her panties, she takes Jeremiah and leaves.

Later, they are seen in a house where the basement houses a meth lab which later blows up with Sarah's latest boyfriend inside. After fleeing, and while detoxing from meth, Sarah is convinced that everyone is after them, and that only certain foods are edible (mainly chips and soda), she then convinces Jeremiah that if they eat anything but those foods, they will be poisoned. Which then leads Sarah and Jeremiah on a failed attempt to shoplift at a grocery store, afterwards Jeremiah finds a hamburger to eat from a dumpster. His mother, in a state of "meth psychosis" is convinced the food he ate was poison, and makes him drink ipecac in order to make him better and rid him of any 'poisons'. Jeremiah wakes up in the hospital with his grandmother beside him. She tells him that Sarah is in the psychiatric ward. Later that night, Sarah collects Jeremiah from his hospital room, and, rather than have him go back to the cult, she clutches her son's hand and they both walk away in hospital gowns. The final scene is of Sarah and Jeremiah driving away.

http://xersanreads.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/the-heart-is-deceitful-above-all-things.jpg

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2006/06/heart-is-deceitful-above-all-things.jpg

video trailers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhbPeX98Qkk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImPbreJlgOA&feature=related

[hunkahunka]

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/h/images/heart-is-deceitful-above-all-things-1.jpg
Marilyn Manson and Asia Argento together in 'The heart is deceitful above all Things'

check out this scene of Marilyn Manson playing the child rapist:

video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk4fZoCqGk8&NR=1

The Heart is Deceitful : Sarah Dresses Up Jeremiah (note the Marylin Monroe
motif/ Oz red shoes):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8tVSiq2s4Y&feature=related

Also, Michael Pitt, who played the cross-dressing Kurt Cobain in
'Last Days' appears in this film as a meth addict (with Cobain hat)
who visits the drugged, raped, traumatized boy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOAMqi56szM

.torrent file:

http://www.mininova.org/det/425607

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7286/minimarilyn.jpg

http://ebooks-imgs.connect.com/product/400/000/000/000/000/158/857/400000000000000158857_s4.jpg
original book cover

http://www.filmbrain.com/photos/uncategorized/heart_is_deceitful.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mpJRvQpHWXU/SqhogMI22bI/AAAAAAAABzk/knNjaH66uoI/s400/2006_the_heart_is_deceitful_above_all_things_002.j pg
mom goes back to sanitarium

http://artforum.com/uploads/upload.000/id08564/article00_wide.jpg

[hunkahunka]

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Celebrities/A_F/Ci_Cp/Cole_Sprouse/1/cole-sprouse7.jpg
Cole Sprouse, Asia Argento, Dylan Sprouse and Jimmy Bennett - "The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things" Wrap Party - 2003

Asia Argento played the part of Courtney Love opposite Michael Pitt in Last Days, and then purportedly went on to write the screenplay for, direct, and star in
'The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things'.

I say purportedly , because I think that alleged director Asia Argento, like alleged author Laura Albert, is more of this 'female creativity' that appeared from out of the blue, which served to mask the male names truly behind the film, a film that featured repeated gay male pedophilia (anus-rapes) of a cross-dressed boy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heart_Is_Deceitful_Above_All_Things

The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things

Story:
Laura Albert (yeah, right)

Screenplay:
Asia Argento (yeah, right)
Alessandro Magania (there (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1386124/)you are)

Directed by
Asia Argento (yeah, right)
Produced by
Chris Hanley, Ryan R. Johnson, etc (there (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0360065/)you are)

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i270/thearpreston/Asia%20Argento/asia-argento-mar31-1-1.jpg
Asia Argento (interesting tat, that)


How this whole 'The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heart_Is_Deceitful_Above_All_Things) film project slipped from the hands of Gus Van Sant, yet ended up starring all of Van Sant's favorite people and close associates of the time, has yet to be explained.

Maybe Gus Van Sant didn't want another 'My Own Private Idaho' type boy hooker flick officially under his belt so he cooked up some bogus film credits for the film that he, or at least his CIA cohort, actually wrote and made?

(recall that Gus Van Sant was writing the screen adaptation of the book (http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/kurt-to-the-chase/2005/08/25/1124562956950.html)
and considering Courtney Love for the main part)

So how did Gus Van Sants 'screen adaptation' disappear, and end up being written instead by Asia Argento?

re: the alleged author of the original book, the bogus JT Leroy;

Is the real author of the book actually Gus Van Sant, not Laura Albert, just as Asia Argento most probably did not write the screenplay, as Gus Van Sant openly admitted (http://www.smh.com.au/news/film/kurt-to-the-chase/2005/08/25/1124562956950.html) that he was writing it himself?

We are to believe that Asia Argento went from playing a bimbo in Van Sant's Last Days to suddenly becoming the screen writer, director and main character of a project that was originally Gus Van Sant's?

Bull.

I think Gus Van Sant ,or his CIA cohort, decided that, in order to make this film at all, they would need a masking strategy to get such controversial subject matter into play, and what better way than to distance themselves as far as possible from the material, and claim that two women were essentially behind the project from start to finish?

interesting pen name that Van Sant chose for himself too: JT LeRoy.

Possibly named after the creator of the original 1939 Wizard of Oz film, Mervin LeRoy.

[hunkahunka]

http://mondoglobo.net/images/laura-albert.jpg
alleged 'gay male child porn' author Laura Albert
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/03/08/albert/story.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Albert

http://www.terrorhotties.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/asia1.jpg
alleged 'gay male child porn' screenwriter/director Asia Argento
http://labattagliasoda.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/asia_argento_jpg_big.jpg

Who is the real JT LeRoy?
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/features/14718/

[soulja]

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i270/thearpreston/Asia%20Argento/asia-argento-mar31-1-1.jpg
Asia Argento (interesting tat, that)


Her other tats are quite telling too.
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/asia-argento-2nd-rome-film-festival-la-terza-madre-black-carpet-movie-premiere-0VgN2X.jpg

http://www.tattoos-by-design.co.uk/celebrities/images/argento3.jpg
And on her neck (slave) a 23 (illuminati)

two interwined serpents (bloodline) plus the black sun.
http://img2.listal.com/image/427711/425full-asia-argento.jpg

I believe she's from a multigenerational satanic family like so many other famous people, her father is dario argento.
http://www.gotterdammerung.org/film/dario-argento/dario-argento.jpg

a director well known for his horror movies and especially for the witchcraft cult classic ''suspiria'' (i have posted screens of the flick somewhere in the thread) her mother was an actress, her grandfather a composer. The family is part of the occult network, this becomes clear just by looking into her father, but asia is quite open about it too, if you know what to look for. Never mind her connections, prizes, etc..

http://imagecache5.art.com/p/LRG/10/1062/OEUL000Z/asia-argento.jpg
She wears the cornuto, official explanation 'it fends of evil spirits' - truth: it's a sign of recognition in satanic circles.

http://www.limitemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/asia-argento-023.jpg
Mocking christ, a little satanic inside joke.

http://media.santabanta.com/gal/fashion/cannes/100.jpg

She is good friends with marylin manson btw, a member of CoS, for whom she directed the video sAINT.

Argento’s work may be characterized as rebellious and pushing boundaries. She directed Marilyn Manson’s music video for “(s)AINT,” which was banned in the United States for images of drug abuse, self mutilation, nudity, sexual content, and bondage. She also stated in a Fall 2000 interview with Filmmaker magazine that she was about to direct a porn movie because “I’ve seen a lot of porno films, but they are never very interesting. So what I want to try to do is have a strong story, but with real sex.”

She is very open and twisted about her sexuality which isn't in the least suprising if you believe she's a witch in the cult. (fertility rites) hence her naked angel tat above her vagina.

http://www.superiorpics.com/pictures2/6271_argent56773.jpg
Dressed in black with the cabalistic tree of life around her neck. The tree of life is also an important symbol/factor when it comes to internal MK alter systems.

http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/a/argento/argento_gal3.jpg
Asia walks the runway, all black, five pointed star, her fingers make the horns.

The painting below, depicting asia, is priced at 6000, which makes it very likely that it's not just some random painting from some fan or whatever.
it's a painting from someone who is also connected to the cult network. kinda reminds me of the monarch butterfly painting, and the puppet on strings painting of dita we have already seen in this thread. Those too were quite expensive, and depicted inside knowledge.
http://troyammons.com/paintings/painting%20images/Asia%20Argento.jpg
Roses symbolize Bloodline and secrecy (sub rosa) she stands on the checker floor (floor of the temple) because of course she's initiated into one or more of the countless strands of the world wide cult network, the brotherhood. Also note the split personality symbolism and the mirroring. Whoever drew that picture knows the score.

And how about this one?
http://aces.snu.ac.kr/mirrors/skins.be/wallpapers.skins.be/asia-argento/asia-argento-1920x1200-20911.jpg
Clearly staged, but at first glance rather harmless isn't it? A closer look tho and one can see another little sign of her being a witch. the flower she holds is the 7 pointed star. 7 is not just prominent within masonry, it's also the most important number in wicca.

For example:

Seven are the planets known to the Ancients

Seven are the colors of the rainbow

Seven are the nights in each quarter of the moon

Seven are the directions of the circle

Seven are the Tenets of the Wicca

the 7 pointed star, or heptagram, is also associated with the cult of isis.

And note that she isn't just holding the heptagram into the camera (in our faces) no, she makes a distinctive handsign while doing so.

This one:
http://bobbeckstead.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Sacred-Heart-of-Jesus.jpg

[soulja]

Came across this very interesting website of an SRA and mind control victim, she calls herself Mauri. Her story is well worth the read as it contains some new insights, at least it did for me.
http://www.reflectionsinthenight.com/walpurgisnacht_baby.htm

The real gems of her site are her essays though. From all the Mk victims i know of she is definately the sharpest. her thoughts on Oprah, the new age crowd, witchcraft, and crowley are right on the money.


Wrong Rabbit Hole

With so many patriots, all with their own point of view, one wonders whom to trust. Could your favorite leader in the patriot crusade be from the other side and telling a lie? The fact that you learn the truth isn’t the only issue to those who would rule the world. Just as important is who to blame and even more important is what to do, sending the reader or listener down the rabbit hole of their choice. The disinformation artist tells almost the whole truth in all its gory detail, with just an alteration or two perhaps leading to the wrong instigator or a cure that is worse than the disease. After all it doesn’t really matter what you know, if in the end they can herd you where they want you to go. That is why just the right disinformation imbedded among the truth is so effect.

I am personally suspicious of the salve of a one-world religion. I think everyone’s relationship with God should be personal. You may learn of the Armageddon that is being planned and do nothing at all, because you think you have the solution in the rapture. Another group I have trouble supporting is the “think positive thoughts” crowd, but if you disagree you can always just go watch Oprah, its biggest supporter. What could possibly be wrong with having only positive thoughts?

My introduction into the “expose the evil” movement started in the early 1990s when I began to have flashbacks of severe childhood abuse. Apparently I had lots of company. With dedication I followed the exposure of child abuse on daytime television talk shows. Oprah slowly moved to the front of the pack on this issue, based mainly on her confessions of her own childhood abuse. This made Oprah a “patriot” to be trusted, at least for a while. Then in 1993 she made an abrupt about face.

Taken from the FMS Foundation Newsletter; Vol 2 No.8, August 30, 1993 is the following:

“Dear Friends,

It's happened. We can say it with confidence. The climate surrounding the FMS phenomenon has shifted. We see many indications of change in addition to the media coverage. People are beginning to understand that FMSF is concerned about issues that arise from our understanding of memory and suggestibility. It is important to address these issues so that the good efforts to improve the situation for children and women are not undermined because of incorrect science, careless therapy or fraud.”

Why the jubilant celebration? They had a friend in Oprah. Taken from the newsletter:

“‘Is Your Repressed Memory a Lie?’ aired on the Oprah Winfrey Show, July 26, 1993. Among the guests were Richard Ofshe, Ph.D., Courage to Heal author, Ellen Bass, Melody Gavigan, a retractor, and FMSF members, Jack and Pat Collier.”

I remember Oprah declaring that she didn’t repress her memories then expressed doubt that such a thing was possible. To me Oprah deserves the prize as one of the most effective of the disinformation artists. She rounded up the sexually abused sheep then devoted one of her final shows on the subject to the FMS wolves foundation. They won the day. And behind the scenes the abuse continued to grow.

In typical Oprah fashion, her documentary “Living with Autism” gave the parents and victims of this disorder a soap box on which to speak, which was a good thing. Many of the parents were suspicious of the mercury in vaccines as the cause of their child’s autism. But, Oprah’s contribution definitely supported the powers that run things behind the scenes. The following quote was taken from Oprah’s website:

“We contacted the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention about whether there is a link between autism and vaccines and they gave us the following statement:

’CDC places a high priority on vaccine safety and the integrity and credibility of its vaccine safety research. This commitment not only stems from our scientific and medical dedication, it is also personal—for most of us who work at CDC are also parents and grandparents. And as such, we too, have high levels of personal interest and concern in the health and safety of children, families and communities. We simply don't know what causes most cases of autism, but we're doing everything we can to find out. The vast majority of science to date does not support an association between thimerosal in vaccines and autism. But we are currently conducting additional studies to further determine what role, if any, thimerosal in vaccines may play in the development of autism. It is important to remember, vaccines protect and save lives. Vaccines protect infants, children and adults from the unnecessary harm and premature