1630 Bible Page First Page Inside Cover

[diamond dogs]

'The Holy Bible containing the Old Testament and The New Newly translated out of the original tongues and with the former translations diligently compared and revised by His Majesties special command Appointed to be read in Churches'

Printed by Tho and John Buck printers to The University of Cambridge

Too big to insert as image so scoll aound and take a look...interesting

http://information-x.110mb.com/bible-page.htm

[phildee3]

'The Holy Bible containing the Old Testament and The New Newly translated out of the original tongues and with the former translations diligently compared and revised by His Majesties special command Appointed to be read in Churches'

Printed by Tho and John Buck printers to The University of Cambridge

Too big to insert as image so scoll aound and take a look...interesting

http://information-x.110mb.com/bible-page.htm

Obviously a further perversion of Christianity by a Jewish-controlled monarchy.
The Bread of Life has become a lizard/dog hybrid!

[chomofski]

I dont want to sound like the dumb one here but am I supposed to be looking for something? symbology of some sort? did I miss something? other than being a nicely kept text, I see nothing out of the ordinary here. I thought it was common knowledge that (especially within early catholicism) that biblical text was read aloud in GREEK to the congregation that overwhelmingly did not know the language. What else is new that a religion sold a line a bull to its constituents.

[beldazar]

thats a very masonic hand shape on the guy thats reading a book!
I think there is another one but his fingers are crossed slightly
Whats a griffin doing there? Which car manufacturer has that one? Is it alpha romeo?

[diamond dogs]

thats a very masonic hand shape on the guy thats reading a book!
I think there is another one but his fingers are crossed slightly
Whats a griffin doing there? Which car manufacturer has that one? Is it alpha romeo?

Vauxhall

http://www.speedace.info/automotive_directory/car_images/Vauxhall_Motors_Griffin_logo.jpg

[marpat]

I thought this was going to be along the lines of Red Dwarf where the bibles first page is discovered and states that all characters in the book are fictional and not meant to portray anybody. Oh well

[beldazar]

thats the one diamond dogs

[amethyst]

'The Holy Bible containing the Old Testament and The New Newly translated out of the original tongues and with the former translations diligently compared and revised by His Majesties special command Appointed to be read in Churches'

Printed by Tho and John Buck printers to The University of Cambridge

Too big to insert as image so scoll aound and take a look...interesting

http://information-x.110mb.com/bible-page.htm

I thought the Geneva Bible completed in 1560 came before this one.


Geneva Bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[fenriswulf]

Francis Bacon got given the job of editing the bible for King James in 1607, he was a mason and templar, and apparently William Shakespear.
So the early editions of the King James are full of hidden messages and symbols.
I wonder why these jews are eating rabbit (if thats what it is) when according to leviticus it is unclean, being a cud chewer but not having a split hoof.
Moses on one side and a king with a harp on the other? Possibly aluding to a celtic connection.
The women at the top are curious, not sure what thats about but more pagan than christian.

[phildee3]

I wonder why these jews are eating rabbit (if thats what it is) when according to leviticus it is unclean,



I wonder why they're eating anything but bread.

That is at the very heart of Christian practice.

Totally bizarre!

[fenriswulf]

The stag image struck me as interesting.

THE DIVINE MADNESS OF THE ANTLERED GOD
A large body of Irish nature poetry and verse exists from the 12th c. CE, attributed to Suibhne Geilt, a figure traditionally placed in the 7th century. He went mad during the battle of Mag Rath, and afterward, lived out his life as a wild man. Some forms of madness act as a form of shamanic initiation, often occurring as time spent "mad" alone in nature. Musing upon the connection of Suibhne and the Antlered God, deer imagery is found throughout his poetry, not only in the clear references, but in the connection between deer and their antlers that resemble the branches of trees.
This imagery is so poignant in Suibhne's death, prophesied in one of his own poems, when he was killed by a deer antler placed so as to go through him as he bent to drink. Yet a symbolic and spiritual death and rebirth are part of the shamanic pattern, and found in almost all religions.
He is pierced by the antlers as he bends to drink from a water source, which in Celtic tradition may be an entrance to the Otherworld and a "vessel" of Divine Wisdom itself.

Am thinking it is pointing towards the idea that the death and rebirth of Jesus is just another in a long line of religious figures to go through this symbolic death.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

thanx, great Post!

great pen work, excellent example,

also noticed the TETRAGRAMMATON--HWHY top centre,YAHWEH- symbolizing 'Source'; 'Fountainhead'

tons of 'Heathen' symbolism

and it could be a chicken

[phildee3]

also noticed the TETRAGRAMMATON--HWHY top centre,YAHWEH- symbolizing 'Source'; 'Fountainhead'



Or so they would have you believe.



and it could be a chicken



Any kind of meat, to replace the bread as the body of Christ, is totally misrepresenting the central teaching of original Christianity, -the Eucharist.

The whole point of it is that it's not meat!

The mystery of Golgotha abolishes blood sacrifice, for all time,
once and for all!

No wonder so many people are so anti-Christianity if they think that this outrageous distortion is the way of the true church.

[kesdin]

Am I suppose to be seeing the sun as a symbol of God possibly relating to all this amen ra type stuff? I'm also seeing what seems to be two suns. One bigger than the other containing some weird scribbles.

The last supper picture below is really weird. If I'm imagining what I'm seeing right, it doesn't look very friendly. It seems (in an artsy way) that there were hidden intentions within that group. The guy on the lower left looking at the person next to Jesus as he grabs something. The guy on the lower right with a sack of something looking at the guy who's looking at the person who is very close to Jesus.
The whole thing gives a weird sinister kind of surrounding in my opinion. I don't like the tiger/lion on the left of the Last Supper picture and don't understand the significance of the cow on the right.

Also, what is that phoenix looking bird to the far right of the picture?

[kguk]

What does the Hebrew writing say on the main sun?
At first i thought maybe the second sun was the moon, but to the right you can clearly see the crescent moon along with 9 stars.
The second sun has a face on it. Maybe it means the second sun will be a mans creation?
The earth has a ship on it. I cant make out where its located on the earth, maybe the south Atlantic.

The next thing to draw my attention was the two child angels. One to the left and the other on the right hand side. They are both holding a part of scripture. Maybe i'm reading too much into it but it appears that the one on the left is looking towards the second sun. If you follow the direction of its eyes it leads to the second sun. Also the main suns rays dont penetrate it. The one on the right however is looking down. The main suns rays do penetrate the second angel.

I love the drawing of the two girls with arms round each other. One has a sword the other an olive branch. "good cop, bad cop", "we either do it peacefully or not" are a couple of phrases that come to mind. Without war there wont be a push for peace. Notice how wherever in the world an olive branch is held up is usually where there is wars. Israel Palestine cconflict, the UN. The UN symbol is an olive branch under a picture of the Earth. I wonder if there is a hidden UN symbol with a sword under the Earth? This duality seems to sum up religion pretty well.

Underneath the two girls to the left is Moses with the ten commandments and to the right a King holding a harp. Take a close look at the tablet Moses is holding. Notice there is no 10th commandment? Just 9.
Its actually quite cleverly done. If you save it to your computer and zoom in then its more noticeable. The numbers 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 and 9 are clear enough. But the dashes under 9 if the image is small enough might look like theres a ten since its not clear enough, zooming in shows theres no tenth commandment.
The tenth commandment is "you shall not covet your neighbours house, you shall not covet your neighbours wife." Obviously its wrong to steal because that would be wrong, but to covet seems to be ok, at least thats what it seems to be saying.
Interestingly you cant make out the fith commandment either. "Honour your mother and father". hmm.

The king to the right, eyeing the globe, is making an unnatural masonic M sign with his left hand.

The bottom section is just too weird. Acorns, four scribes, 2 having an angel whisper to them, the other two with a phoenix like bird behind them, a lion or tiger and a bull at their feet, mixed expressions on their faces, a stag drinking from a well, not to mention a very dodgy looking last supper. Its all too much for me to read the symbolism there.

Just some thoughts that came across my mind looking at the picture.

[kimball13]

what is on page 1,680. in my bible it speaks of paul. on page 1,630 speaks agian of paul, and by the way the corruption of the church began when people began to follow Paul instead Peter. It is written the the church would be built upon Peter as the Pope not Paul, Paul was a womanizing,pridful, opputiunistic hit man for Harod, and why does he never speak of the woman that evangalized with him(maybe because she was the real one with a gift),,,,maybe this is also why some campared me to Peter when was ordained a deacon, they alway said he is just as hotheaded as Peter was, hum, ya paul likes to play the game, and do ya think espionage is new,,,,,,,,so i ask why is it that Christ said it shall be peter that the church will be built on because peter is like a Rock,,,,,,,but instead paul shows up claiming to have a vision and aproaches the people with religiose fervor and good pr. So because Christ had left they decided to begin to change words and add and take away to justifie there own greed and lust for acceptance from Rome and who could do this well paul because he was a Roman Citzen. So the thing about eating the host is about intent, consuming the word and assimilateing it in your heart, it was never to be missinterpeted as canabolism,,,,,,,and as far as what people say about hybrids, it does say that many will become one,(and that one is the rider on the white horse). So for those that believe in snakes dogs and bird tribes just remember you are from one of these tribes, you just dont know it, and now ya know why they dont trust me in any of these groups, because they know that if they try to manipulate me by saying you have to fight for your people, my responce is you are my people just as they are, can you choose between one of your children, siblings, parents, tell me which one will you choose to kill.....i will tellyou the one that asks, because then i would have to seak vengence on the one that orderd the killing, and if i started doing that then there would be no one left. So in a nut shell i canot take sides with people, but i can when it comes to destroying evil(doesnt it say family members turn on each other to somewhere) so maybe someone should read the bible in it entirety and not verse chapter bs. and by the way chapter and verse bs didnot come around until king james, and oboy was that a mess, there was the puritans contracted to translate then the Catholics got jeolouse and sent assasins so to keap the peace King James aloud the Catholics seats on the comitee to translate, hence the reason why we have Greek, latin translations. Read it as a whole and the truth just begins to blead though the misstraslations, because althought there were many learned men doing the work they still could not corrupt it alll without completely changeing the book as a whole, and hiding there sublte changes. Maybe that is why Christ came to fulfill the law before it was lost to scolors. That should be enough for now. and remember the devil is in the details, step back and take another look fromm afar, just like looking at an elphant, if you face is next to the but and to close all youl seee i poop and be carful it may land on ya. It is good to speculate but please try not to instill us against them because this is the reality of the situation it is us against us. Look at the biblle as a time machin combinded with history, it is like a code,,,,,,,the tower of babel the twin towers, cause and affect producing the effect......th first tower caused the separation, these two that fellrecently may be what brings us back together because we now see how far down we have gone. Ya and some will say i tought them to do what they do, well heres what i got to say,,,,,,,any child when they come home from school after learning something loves to show of there nwely aquired knowledge to the adults in there life, my bad i guese when i was 6years old that they already knew certain things and the knowledge i shared was for preventative purpose, things to watch for, how to trick people into being/doing the right thing until it becomes habit,,,,,,have ya seen the show the pretender about a boy that can put himself into anysituation and figure out all of the diffent possiblitys for and type of action that may be taken to prevent disaster, little did the charecter know what they were realy intending. until the truth became known then as an adult he escapes and begins to right the wrongs done with his knowledge.............it took me along time to relize that the guilt tripps they put on me were there own guilt for using an inocent child. The i began to look at what was done to me,,,,,im not going into detail because if i give you specifics you might try this, if ya havnt already.

So read it as a child, just as Christ said be as a child, free flowing thought and imagination guided by inocence, so pay attention to a child that wants to share there insights, on anything, thye just might be wiser than you are, and dont take what a child teaches you or shares with yo uand use it for ill intent because by doing this you are no diffent than the crusaders that people bich about. Remeber the first Knights associated with the Crusades were for protection of pilgrims of all religions, it was the second crusade that was the excavtoin of th etemple mount and after they were done they left,,,,the rest of it was just a king keaping his kingdom busy so that thye would not be idle, no great cause other than just trying to keap any in house rivals busy at crusading, just like when King David sent his best Warrior to the front lines so he could have his wife. woops went a lttle of subject.

[kimball13]

Or so they would have you believe.



Any kind of meat, to replace the bread as the body of Christ, is totally misrepresenting the central teaching of original Christianity, -the Eucharist.

The whole point of it is that it's not meat!

The mystery of Golgotha abolishes blood sacrifice, for all time,
once and for all!

No wonder so many people are so anti-Christianity if they think that this outrageous distortion is the way of the true church.

great point, i wish i would have read your post before i wrote a fing chapter.

[kimball13]

oh ya it wil be soon that we wont have to look for sings and symbols to justifie TRUTH:D

[beldazar]

yes the sun is very interesting, it must be the 'real' sun, the 'central' sun that is talked about in mythology and is mentioned in Thunderbolts of the Gods. Perhaps what they saw was the centre of our universe before the planet Lucifer' was ignited to become our sun of today?

So much food for thought here, Im trawling thru Nassim Harrimens Unified Field Theory right now. He speaks of black holes within black holes etc....and whats the Hadron Collider all about? Isnt that to create a black hole, re-creating the 'big bang' and since it turns out time isnt linear.........dunno, just writing bits of my thoughts down, :)

[phildee3]

yes the sun is very interesting, it must be the 'real' sun, the 'central' sun that is talked about in mythology



The "central sun" refers to the "object" at the centre of the Galaxy.

Nassim Harrimen says that our sun is a black hole, inside which is another universe.

I think the "central sun" is a black hole inside which is the infinite, timeless realm (ie. heaven/tir-na-nog/etc.).

[beldazar]

yes, thats what I meant! Im trawling thru Nassim at the moment. I have seen the first part, now for the next one! Such food for the mind!!! (oops I forgot I already said....)

[kimball13]

Yes that may just be the sacrament spoken of in the breaking of bread, it is the consumsion of vibrations of the Heart, Body, and Soul being transmitted, we have gone from drinking the milk of these vibe's/thoughts, to the actual chewing of something solid that we can graspe an sink our teath into savoring every morsle and extracting the nutreints that heal the Heart,,,,,,,it is truly a spiritual circle. Just as the fisher king legends it takes the very person that caused the wound to heal the wound. Every moment i feal a healing, i see a healing takeing place. People are pouring in, searching and seaking. The one time enemys have had a change of heart. Some of the one time pretenders that thought or tried to be me have found there true self just as i have(thing is i was never pretending and was very honest about myself, there is only one that i even came close to telling him, but i could tell he's known for quite some time, he is my heyoka, not yours Gypse:eek:) And yes im sure there are some Godly men on motorcycles(i will leave that there for now))Maybe i am what some refer to as The Thunder Being, it is said that the heyokas have to obey and serve the One,,,,,,,the thunder being gives birth to little thunder beings sending them out into the world to do deads given to them, then they return to the thunderbeing to be eated(interesting storie filled with symbolism) Whatever teachings leave the thunderbeing to go out into the world come back as nuroshment for the thunderbeing. Heyokas are called contrary they are not lyrer's, heyokas never give up, they do whatever it takes to teach the people the folly of there ways(enen though i dont agree sometimes, but hay im not heyoka so who am i to say, some politions are heyoka, george carlin was heyoka:(i miss him),,,,,,,I see some people looking around for me, some thinking im just another pretender and trying to poke at me to scare me, they try to subly use scare tactics, they trie to put one of the pretenders trash in my lap(how disgaceful) i then see some that were part of the conspiracy in tears realizing what they were manipulated into doing,,,,,,,some have become very fearful and refuse to capitulate, they think if they just keap doing what theve always done they will get away with it again,ouch earthquake up in canada;) i just gotta giglle a little, (dont get me wrong i still get a bit:eek:)The one that picked me up in the mohave desert back in 1987 still thinks im under his controle(boxed in and stitched up) he thinks hes got a in in the white house:pmaybe he does, but like i told him yesterday i went to a higher authority.......Did i mention Fay? is the name of a man that tried to be me, as well as steal my son and putting his name on the birth certificate,,,(wow they were talented at what they do),,,,Ya want to know what realy woke me up, my SON did. When the mother(she did not know eitherr and may still not)yes it was a drunken epasode where i woke up in bed naked smelling like a woman and the only two woman in the house were his sister and his fiance, and he canot medicaly have children, and about 9 mnths later his fiance gave birth. When i saw sons picture i knew and when i spoke to fay on the phone all i said to the fake father i know what youve done all he could do was freak, i did not tell him what i knew all i said was i knew. Woops went a little of subject again. Now i know why they released the movie wanted, that was there plan, they wanted to rase him to come after me, just like in the movie.....Sorry about that but a movie has no controle over the Will of God. They were hopening that i would commit suicied so that they could rase him to take my place, thye hoped that they could succsefuly do to him what they did to me:mad: And so here we have the gypse again, he tries to tell me, that he did what he did to protect some one, and that even though it was a lie it is a succes, bs i told him the most he could hope for is a wash(he tried to convince me he should be rewarded) and when children are harmed there is no success only sorrow, and when this happends and a person tries to justifei the abuse they have done to a child that is when i step in full force, and i do mean full force, God sends down lightning to aid me as well as many other things, but the most powerful weopon is Love in the hearts of the people, the Word written on there hearts is called Love, not chapter and verse.:cool:;):eek::D Gregg braden speaks of the very same stuff Nasim speaks of, i wonder if Gregg was a false prophet stealing nasims work.

[biblegirl]

'The Holy Bible containing the Old Testament and The New Newly translated out of the original tongues and with the former translations diligently compared and revised by His Majesties special command Appointed to be read in Churches'

Printed by Tho and John Buck printers to The University of Cambridge

Too big to insert as image so scoll aound and take a look...interesting

http://information-x.110mb.com/bible-page.htm

To anyone who knows their way around computers: is there any way to get this image condensed so it will fit on the screen?

[w1nstonsm1th84]

To anyone who knows their way around computers: is there any way to get this image condensed so it will fit on the screen?

I'm a helpful boy (two screen sizes):


http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8964/1630biblefirstpagereducfl5.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4697/1630biblefirstpagereduclb1.jpg

I hope they're okay. :)

[biblegirl]

Thank you, that's so much better! :)

[w1nstonsm1th84]

Thank you, that's so much better! :)

Great, glad that I could be of help. :)