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eternal_spirit
20-04-2007, 08:09 PM
Don't take these antidepressants they are poison!

When they were first prescribed the long lasting side effects were not publicised. These kind of drugs include Prozac etc etc.

I guess this was because the Big Pharmaceutical Brotherhood companies wanted to make big profits at the expense of the public, and maybe another form of mind control and dumbing down the publics conciousness yet again!:mad:

Read the medical facts and studies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor

ant777uk
21-04-2007, 03:11 AM
The following are good alternatives:

5HTP
St John's Wort
Cocoa Beans

For me good quality 5HTP in the best.

tinmenace
21-04-2007, 03:30 AM
SSRI drug manufacturers have withheld information from the FDA and the public to play down the risks and adverse effects associated with SSRIs

Click for Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor#Criticism)


But they won't ban them! Instead they ban Vitamin B17 which is thought to cure cancer.

Laetrile is a compound that has been used as an anticancer treatment in humans worldwide. It is not approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) as a treatment for cancer or any other medical condition.

In the United States, the Food and Drug Administration continues to seek jail sentences for vendors selling laetrile for cancer treatment, calling it a "highly toxic product that has not shown any effect on treating cancer.

Click for Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laetrile)

A little bit off topic, I'm sorry but I just couldn't help it. It's ok for the pharmaceuticals to kill us, but we're not allowed to take vitamins to combat illness. What is wrong with this picture???

kha zarr
21-04-2007, 12:48 PM
is there another name for b17, a way to buy this?

ant777uk
21-04-2007, 03:01 PM
The best source of vitamin B17 is Apricot Kernals. They can be bought online quite easily. B17 is also found in various other fruit seeds.

Taking vitamins in their natural form is much more effective than taking isolated manufactured supplements.

eternal_spirit
21-04-2007, 03:07 PM
B17 can also be found in wild blackberries. You could may be take part of the bramble bush which the blackberry grows on, and try replant it and grow them in you're garden. :)

eternal_spirit
21-04-2007, 03:19 PM
B17 I imagime must boost the immune system too. Maybe it would be good for Aids and the likes of, and ward off colds.

tinmenace
21-04-2007, 03:24 PM
is there another name for b17, a way to buy this?

Laetrile can be purchased online here (http://www.tjsupply.com/category2_1.htm?gclid=COSI3Mrn04sCFRpUgQodOWxeVQ)

Or here
(http://www.metabolicproductssupply.com/cat1_1.htm?gclid=CObchePn04sCFQcfgAodnD7NUg)
And apricot kernels can be bought here (http://www.cancerchoices.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=001&Product_Code=ApricotKernels&Category_Code=apricot)

I'm not recommending or vouching for these online stores or their products. Please do thorough research before making a transaction. :)

222oningt
31-03-2008, 01:38 AM
How does St. John's Wort make you feel? I'm taking 5HTP 100 mg but still don't feel good. I may try SJW.

gizmocrystal
05-04-2008, 10:23 AM
As i am feeling low at the moment thinking about the Bigger picture (whats the purpose of life/where do we go when we die/etc) my doctor decided to put me on antidepressants (citalopram, an ssri).

I brought them home and read the side effects:eek: I think these would make me worse so i decided not to take them.


I have been doing guided meditations every morning, having reiki treatments everyonce in a while, eating lots of fish,vegetables drinking the calming tea chamomile, i have also found ST Johns wort in tea bag form but havent tried it yet.

I am feeling not to bad, have my ups and downs, but i think eating a good diet and doing relaxation teqniques has really helped.

Its so hard to pull yourself up, but i am trying!!

gizmo

madthumbs
05-04-2008, 04:30 PM
I wish people would stop calling it B-17. Part of the reason it's scoffed at by medical professionals is because it's not technically a vitamin. Why not call it amygdalin? Instead we have people pimping the chemical brand name for it. Apricot seeds are far from being the only source naturally, and eating too much of anything can be bad for you. You can find a list of foods containing varying amounts of amygdalin, as well as other cancer busting foods here: Alternative Cancer Protocols (http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=83)

Depression is something I've personally suffered with most of my life. My personal experience with SSRI's could have landed me in prison. I'm a very non-violent person (otherwise), but while on them I was very prone to hostility and easily agitated. There is a withdrawal period people will suffer from if they quit these after becoming dependent on them. They didn't make me happy, they made me apathetic and spacey. There are a lot of factors that can add up to result in depression. What I found helpful (http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1964)

isitfortiamat
09-04-2008, 06:37 AM
like all drugs pushed by the corps-SSRI's aren't thoroughly tested on the negative side effects in the long run-but in a society that demands pills as an instant easy cure-all-we set ourselves up for this poisoning.