Richard Dolan asks "what if David Icke's right?"

[tim the enchanter]

Skip ahead to about 29 minutes in for the subject in question: http://paranormalradionetwork.org/2008/05/04/throught-the-kethole-guest-karyn-dolan.aspx

Richard Dolan, by the way, is very prominent in UFO/conspiracy circles.

[godmind]

love your work, Tim.

:D

[tim the enchanter]

love your work, Tim.

:D

Yes, go on...

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6986/3240029ie3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[lightgiver]

What do you mean if,he is right:eek:;)

[tim the enchanter]

What do you mean if,he is right:eek:;)

In regards to what? Many people argue (a few on this forum) that Icke dreadfuly simplifies certain issues, like the reptilian issue for one. I mean, I'm just saying that I wouldn't put it in terms of black and white, believe Icke outright or don't.

[darketernal]

In regards to what? Many people argue (a few on this forum) that Icke dreadfuly simplifies certain issues, like the reptilian issue for one. I mean, I'm just saying that I wouldn't put it in terms of black and white, believe Icke outright or don't.

That is one thing I like about Icke. He only brings the subject to your attention, but leaves the individual free to decide what they will about the reptilians and a lot of the issues.

[tim the enchanter]

That is one thing I like about Icke. He only brings the subject to your attention, but leaves the individual free to decide what they will about the reptilians and a lot of the issues.

Well actualy, he pretty much says "they're literally shapeshifting reptilians", I'm not sure he takes much care to argue it through the various shades of grey.

[darketernal]

Well actualy, he pretty much says "they're literly shapeshifting reptilians", I'm not sure he takes much care to argue it through the various shades of grey.

Right, but he says relatively little about the reptilians themselves. In fact I'd venture to say the shapeshifters as he breaks it down are members of the bloodline families who are inhabited or possessed by a reptilian.

He leaves the rest open. Are there different factions with different motivations among the reptilians? Are there different types? What is their origin? Etc.

[tim the enchanter]

Right, but he says relatively little about the reptilians themselves. In fact I'd venture to say the shapeshifters as he breaks it down are members of the bloodline families who are inhabited or possessed by a reptilian.

He leaves the rest open. Are there different factions with different motivations among the reptilians? Are there different types? What is their origin? Etc.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=378028#post378028

[tim the enchanter]

And dont get me started on Infinite Love...

[darketernal]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=378028#post378028

It didn't really answer anything regarding DI's indept statments about reptilians. It did address the issue of hybrids. My questions were just general ones. I've got my own experiences with this subject, and am attracted to Icke's presentations because I do see a signifigant bit of information he presents which mirrors my own experiences and understandings. This leads me to believe there is a good deal of truth in what he has to say.

It is my belief that the reptilians, the non-hybrids, are not extraterrestrial or extradimensional in origin, but rather are the dominant intelligent lifeform on this planet. I see the hybrids as the sheepherds/sheepdogs of their livestock. Of course I agree with Icke on the fact that humanity is used not just as a food source but for the powerful energy of the human mind, which if controled as it currently is, is used to mold reality to the will of the controlers.

[darketernal]

And dont get me started on Infinite Love...

Go ahead. This particular forum seems a bit slow, and could use the activity.

[tim the enchanter]

It didn't really answer anything regarding DI's indept statments about reptilians. It did address the issue of hybrids. My questions were just general ones.

Oh, I thought those were rhetorical questions.

It is my belief that the reptilians, the non-hybrids, are not extraterrestrial or extradimensional in origin, but rather are the dominant intelligent lifeform on this planet. I see the hybrids as the sheepherds/sheepdogs of their livestock. Of course I agree with Icke on the fact that humanity is used not just as a food source but for the powerful energy of the human mind, which if controled as it currently is, is used to mold reality to the will of the controlers.

http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/thecallofcthulhu.htm

http://www.cthulhu.com/

;)

[tim the enchanter]

Go ahead. This particular forum seems a bit slow, and could use the activity.

Oh, heck...well, I'll have to get back to you on this one, but basically, I find Icke's conception of the universe as this "Infinite Love" thing overbearingly New Age cliche to be worh anything.

[darketernal]

Oh, I thought those were rhetorical questions.



http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/thecallofcthulhu.htm

http://www.cthulhu.com/

;)


They were rhetorical. LoL

Interesting links. I've only heard of Lovecrafts books in passing.

[tim the enchanter]

They were rhetorical. LoL

Interesting links. I've only heard of Lovecrafts books in passing.

Well, rhetorical or not, check out the short story I linked you. ;)

[popeye11]

Love your threads Tim and find them enchanting. I also agree with you. BTW Found out this morning that much of Mutwa's videos were taken off You Tube, put back on, but censored. I find that odd considering the stuff they do put on You Tube. :confused:

[darketernal]

Interesting stuff. I did a little research on Lovecraft and even manage to download an audiobook version of the short story in question.

This author is clearly an esoteric initiate.

[sebastian]

Well, rhetorical or not, check out the short story I linked you. ;)

The descriptions were spot on.

Can you tell me briefly about Lovecraft ? Not what he said or someone else but your oppinion

[popeye11]

Lovecraft lived with his mother and wrote about the things we talk about here and the occult, but always claimed that they were fiction. He appeared to have loads of insight, but whether it was intentional or not, who knows.
He knew things that were way beyond his time, science fiction back in the days of old that is turning out to be not so fiction.
Many of his movies got made into to b-rated, but if you take a good look at his works, you can't help but see that he knew more than he claimed to. :)

[tim the enchanter]

The descriptions were spot on.

Can you tell me briefly about Lovecraft ? Not what he said or someone else but your oppinion

Actualy, I don't know anything about Lovecraft other than what you might read in your average magazine article about him, and that he set the tone for a lot of 20th century science fiction/fantasy/conspiracy talk.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wqx7AGcxOO0

I'm certainly going to look into him more deeply, but for now, all I can say is that he seems to have tapped into some dank, miserable, eldritch hole of the collective unconcious and used it in his stories.

http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/thecolouroutofspace.htm

http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/wallofsleep.htm

The funny thing about Lovecraft is, with a few exceptions, he realy wasn't a great writer, but he was a great dreamer (nightmarer), and his myhtology...well, it just strikes a nerve with some people! It lives and breathes.

http://www.battleduck.com/hp_lovecraft_gallery.html

[tim the enchanter]

Here's another one to look at, but by a differant author: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rgs/pmars-table.html

Another very influential book, and hey, yet more reptile themes!

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/5910/frazetajp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And I nearly forgot, but here's Lovecaft directly referencing reptile men in an ancient context: http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/thenamelesscity.htm

[tim the enchanter]

It looks like Pixar is making a film out of John Carter: Princess of Mars, by the way. Release date 2012.

[goldman]

I believe one can take an ambiguous view on reptilians also.

Theory: if reptilians as depicted do actually not exists, they still exist in the form of the reptilian metaphor, and so they do exist.

With the metaphor I mean, certain people who are cold-blooded, wage wars, bomb their own society -the non cold blooded ones-, trying to enslave caring people. I think this holds some truth, because in history many tyrants were depicted as 'beasts'.

So what ever the case may be, it's certain that this world is controlled by reptilian-like humans, whether it be in the true form, or used as a metaphor to underline their true agenda and worldview.