Question about the matrix

[purpledream]

I am new here so please forgive me if this has been asked before.

I am curious about this. If someone is blind from birth and has never seen the world and what should and shouldn't be in it, why can they not just walk through things? If it is all an illusion and they don't know it is there, why does it still exist?

I have so many questions and no one to ask, maybe someone here can answer this?

[tinmenace]

The parents of the child treat and raise the child like a blind person. Thereby defining his parameters of the world around him...ultimately creating his reality.

[purpledream]

But if the person can't see, how do they know when something is or isn't there? When no one else is around to tell them it is there?

[tinmenace]

The parents are teaching the child that there's a wall there....and not to walk into it....teaching the child to believe that these things exist because they are able to see it. Once the child has 'downloaded' the matrix, then the program runs automatically.

[sean~infinte]

has to be universal law of some kind

like people didnt believe in gravity and they thought the world was flat but it was always dere and round right? plus theres programing through the subconscious of the consensus mind ofthe masses

if they could pass through walls we wouldnt witness to it anyway becuase of our belief system which would prevent them from passing through walls right?

[thoth]

Its been embedded into our DNA for generations. Each generation not in tuned with higher frequencies, which would require walking through walls, would lessen the ability of their offspring to do so. This is why the brotherhood pick native americans or people of nordic decent in their secret projects of mind control. They, as well as others, have been in tuned with higher dimensional reality for generations. At some point in our past, our DNA was tweeked to 3 dimensional,ie sensory realty.

[earthseed]

I was going to say the same thing like Icke says DNA is programming. Leave your body though through an OBE or death and you can walk through walls.

[dickiebiz]

Objects (in my opinion) are not illusions. They are physicaly there and you can't walk through them even if your blind and dont' know there there.
When someone says the world is an illusion i think they are talking about the world as we persive it. or how we are told to persive it by the government the main stream media and the religons. For example 500 years ago every one was told that the world was flat, and in everyone's mind the world was flat and if you said different you would most proberbly be burn't at the stake.
In todays world we believe different things. Things like neil armstrong was the first man on the moon, or saddam hussaine has biological wepons (ummm lets invade). We believe that the twin towers were bought down by terrorists in planes. and that the american government had nothing to do with it.

the only Way you could walk through a wall is if the wall was never there in the first place (except for in your mind) that would be an illusion.

[purpledream]

Objects (in my opinion) are not illusions. They are physicaly there and you can't walk through them even if your blind and dont' know there there.
When someone says the world is an illusion i think they are talking about the world as we persive it. or how we are told to persive it by the government the main stream media and the religons. For example 500 years ago every one was told that the world was flat, and in everyone's mind the world was flat and if you said different you would most proberbly be burn't at the stake.
In todays world we believe different things. Things like neil armstrong was the first man on the moon, or saddam hussaine has biological wepons (ummm lets invade). We believe that the twin towers were bought down by terrorists in planes. and that the american government had nothing to do with it.

the only Way you could walk through a wall is if the wall was never there in the first place (except for in your mind) that would be an illusion.

Yes this rings more true to me than thinking nothing is real.

[thoth]

In my opinion, the former is the accurate description. BUT, since you say its that way, it is and will be for you, and probably for future generations. The universe is as holographic or predictable as you make it.

[tinmenace]

Quantum physics tells us that the wall is not solid.

[turquoisefyre]

I am new here so please forgive me if this has been asked before.

I am curious about this. If someone is blind from birth and has never seen the world and what should and shouldn't be in it, why can they not just walk through things? If it is all an illusion and they don't know it is there, why does it still exist?

I have so many questions and no one to ask, maybe someone here can answer this?

if you are born here, then you are born into the physical world. just as your body has a brain (hopefully, looking at some folks I wonder), every cell has it's own brain that utlimately connects with your brain.

if a blind person wanted to break free, although we all walk our owns paths, they would have to raise their vibration, like the rest of us. this be imo.

[mada88]

can you break free from yourself?

[turquoisefyre]

can you break free from yourself?


"yourself" = ego? , physical body? the trap you belive yourself to be? ...i guess all that would be lft would be pure thoughtform energy...

[bigus_dickus]

Quantum physics tells us that the wall is not solid.

and so is your eyelid and your own skin!

you can't walk through walls, or see through walls, because you are a human being. a consciousness in form that has agreed boundaries in a system. otherwise it would not be a system, you would not be formed (born) and you would not be an individual.

if we could walk through walls, we would have no walls. or physical body.

we wouldn't even be on a "planet", we would be the planet.

[mada88]

and so is your eyelid and your own skin!

you can't walk through walls, or see through walls, because you are a human being. a consciousness in form that has agreed boundaries in a system. otherwise it would not be a system, you would not be formed (born) and you would not be an individual.

if we could walk through walls, we would have no walls. or physical body.

we wouldn't even be on a "planet", we would be the planet.

We have bought a lie, I want a refund lol This is living? lmfao

[bigus_dickus]

We have bought a lie, I want a refund lol This is living? lmfao

it's ok, we can afford it, this and much more :)

[aznality]

Objects (in my opinion) are not illusions. They are physicaly there and you can't walk through them even if your blind and dont' know there there.
When someone says the world is an illusion i think they are talking about the world as we persive it. or how we are told to persive it by the government the main stream media and the religons. For example 500 years ago every one was told that the world was flat, and in everyone's mind the world was flat and if you said different you would most proberbly be burn't at the stake.
In todays world we believe different things. Things like neil armstrong was the first man on the moon, or saddam hussaine has biological wepons (ummm lets invade). We believe that the twin towers were bought down by terrorists in planes. and that the american government had nothing to do with it.

the only Way you could walk through a wall is if the wall was never there in the first place (except for in your mind) that would be an illusion.

Actually, everything exists in your mind. You don't see an object. It's the light that reflects into your eyes that passes the message to your brain for it to interpret. Same as all other senses like hearing, touch, taste, and smell. We are creating all that we perceive as reality, in our minds.

[truthsayer]

Objects (in my opinion) are not illusions. They are physicaly there and you can't walk through them even if your blind and dont' know there there.
When someone says the world is an illusion i think they are talking about the world as we persive it. or how we are told to persive it by the government the main stream media and the religons. For example 500 years ago every one was told that the world was flat, and in everyone's mind the world was flat and if you said different you would most proberbly be burn't at the stake.
In todays world we believe different things. Things like neil armstrong was the first man on the moon, or saddam hussaine has biological wepons (ummm lets invade). We believe that the twin towers were bought down by terrorists in planes. and that the american government had nothing to do with it.

the only Way you could walk through a wall is if the wall was never there in the first place (except for in your mind) that would be an illusion.

I too share a more subjective view on this, although I have still not conclusively made up my mind.

Jean Baudrillard sums it up well from the book Simulacra and Simulation

1 It is the reflection of a basic reality.

2 It masks and perverts a basic reality.

3 It masks the absence of a basic reality.

4 It bears no relation to any reality whatever: it is its own pure simulacrum.

Simulacra and Simulation is most known for its discussion of images, signs, and how they relate to the present day. Baudrillard claims that our society has replaced all reality and meaning with symbols and signs, and that in fact all that we know as real is actually a simulation of reality. The simulacra that Baudrillard refers to are signs of culture and media that create the reality that we perceive. (Excerpt from Wikipedia)

Good book, highly recommend.

[infinitely free]

The parents of the child treat and raise the child like a blind person. Thereby defining his parameters of the world around him...ultimately creating his reality.

Good point, tinmenace!

[infinitely free]

There have been cases of blind people, who have walked through situations - which should've killed them
e. g. crossing a high-speed road (which is highly dangerous, in the 5-sense terms)
Being blind, they "hadn't realised", what they were doing. Nothing happened to them

The Programme would not affect you, if you are not programmed, by it!