What is Oil? No, Really.

[pandamania]

OK they told us in school it was 'Fossil Fuel' and came from dead Dinosaurs and old Forests.

I can see this being true in the case of Coal as the seams are not too far underground - but oil is now being extracted miles below the seabed and up to 5 miles below the ground. Oil seems to be at all levels.

How did Dinosaurs and Plants get down there? And why is it not compost or coal?

[hagbard_celine]

Go to this thread; you'll find it interesting: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26909

I read somewhere (I'm not sure it was Blueprint...) that crude oil can be made in a few weks from ordinary compost. It is not a fossil fuel. Don't know if this is true, but watch the Ian Crane lecture and let me know what you think.

[pandamania]

Cheers for that Hagbard very thought-provoking stuff. I also find it interesting that Russian never thought of oil as a fossil fuel - like the Global Warming scam there is a whole other interpretation and reality beyond Murdochvision.

The more I read this forum the more free I feel. We really are living in a false reality of lies, spin, misinformation and a highly selective "truth". And I must say it's very liberating. I used to get depressed when the news was on, not I see it's a lie and I ignore it. The whole media and entire education system is one huge editorial.

What I can't understand is how generations of geologists can spend their lives studying oil and not come to the conclusion that the accepted science behind it makes no sense? It's like universities encourage and demand concensus regardless of the facts.

[hagbard_celine]

Cheers for that Hagbard very thought-provoking stuff. I also find it interesting that Russian never thought of oil as a fossil fuel - like the Global Warming scam there is a whole other interpretation and reality beyond Murdochvision.

The more I read this forum the more free I feel. We really are living in a false reality of lies, spin, misinformation and a highly selective "truth". And I must say it's very liberating. I used to get depressed when the news was on, not I see it's a lie and I ignore it. The whole media and entire education system is one huge editorial.

What I can't understand is how generations of geologists can spend their lives studying oil and not come to the conclusion that the accepted science behind it makes no sense? It's like universities encourage and demand concensus regardless of the facts.

Yeah, they have a vested interest in us thinking that oil is finite and scarce. They'd never be able to justify the astronomical prices they're charging us today otherwise!:eek: What's more it makes us feel insecure. "What it runs out? Help!" So we turn to them to protect us; which is just what they like!

[jmmk]

Oil is just the essence of something dead. It doesn't have to be eons old.
More lies and deceit from our leaders. Also, the deisel engine was invented
in 1898 by Rudolph Deisel to run on vegetable oil, but the powers that be
at the time, converted it to run on 'deisel fuel'. They called it that to trick
us into thinking it was originally made to run that way. This is classic Illuminati
symbolism, calling this refined crude oil 'deisel' when actually he had nothing
to do with that part of the process.

[diamond dogs]

Oil is just the essence of something dead. It doesn't have to be eons old.
More lies and deceit from our leaders. Also, the deisel engine was invented
in 1898 by Rudolph Deisel to run on vegetable oil, but the powers that be
at the time, converted it to run on 'deisel fuel'. They called it that to trick
us into thinking it was originally made to run that way. This is classic Illuminati
symbolism, calling this refined crude oil 'deisel' when actually he had nothing
to do with that part of the process.

Hi jmmk I have posted this before..seems a likely Illuminati victim

The diesel engine has the benefit of running more fuel-efficiently than gasoline engines. Diesel was especially interested in using coal dust or vegetable oil as fuel, his engine in fact ran on peanut oil.

Some believe he committed suicide and cite his neurotic personality and numerous "breakdowns," and some believe he was murdered by either Germans (who resented his lack of nationalism) or by coal industrialists (who resented his engine).

In the evening of 29 September 1913, Diesel boarded the post office steamer Dresden in Antwerp on his way to a meeting of the "Consolidated Diesel Manufacturing Ltd." in London. He took dinner on board the ship and then retired to his cabin at about 10 p.m., leaving word for him to be called the next morning at 6:15 a.m. He was never seen alive again. Ten days later, the crew of the Dutch boat "Coertsen" came upon the corpse of a man floating in the sea. The body was in such a heavy state of decomposition that they did not bring it aboard. Instead, the crew retrieved personal items (pill case, wallet, pocket knife, eyeglass case) from the clothing of the dead man, which on October 13th were identified by Rudolf's son, Eugen Diesel, as belonging to his father..

Well what do you conclude????

http://objects.erih.net/biography/15_diesel_.jpg

[jmmk]

Sounds like the monopolies/cartels doing their thing again. Whenever a rogue
scientist invents something that threatens their control or pyramid they end
up rectifying the situation with impunity. Read 'Lost Science' by Gerry
Vassillatos if you dare.

[hagbard_celine]

Interesting debate with Ian Crane and Bob Hopkins where Ian refers to the non-fossil fuel theory of oil:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7951906089891223556&q=&hl=en

[alexav]

So here in Mexico where actually theres a Great debate about the Energetic Reform and how to share positions with foreign companies to extract oil from the deep oceans it's a farce?

Look a rapid hint about it... the government before even to get in the chair (the actual president) was questioned about if he would be letting private companies to get contracts for the extraction in deep oceans, because as they said actually Mexican oil industry Pemex doesn't have the means to get in there, and he (the president) said he will never sell or anything with the Pemex industry but... now we are slowly being brainwashed like every 15 or less minutes in TV Radio or any media that it have to be done, that the present extraction fields would be empty by 10 yrs., that the energetic reform would be for the better of the poor families, and all that kind of propaganda...

For me seems that we are in big shit with this mister trying to get his pockets full of money...

[hagbard_celine]

So here in Mexico where actually theres a Great debate about the Energetic Reform and how to share positions with foreign companies to extract oil from the deep oceans it's a farce?

Look a rapid hint about it... the government before even to get in the chair (the actual president) was questioned about if he would be letting private companies to get contracts for the extraction in deep oceans, because as they said actually Mexican oil industry Pemex doesn't have the means to get in there, and he (the president) said he will never sell or anything with the Pemex industry but... now we are slowly being brainwashed like every 15 or less minutes in TV Radio or any media that it have to be done, that the present extraction fields would be empty by 10 yrs., that the energetic reform would be for the better of the poor families, and all that kind of propaganda...

For me seems that we are in big shit with this mister trying to get his pockets full of money...

That's how it always happens!:rolleyes:

The supposed "depletion" of easy-to-reach oil wells is making the companies move further out to sea and to the polar regions etc, but the problem is that it costs a lot more to extract the oil from those locations; deep sea oil rigs are complex and expensive; working in the cold climate of the polar regions would also guzzle up funds. This cost will be passed onto the consumer of course. What's more the oil companies will use the excuse of expensive oil to push the price up even more and fleece us for every penny they can!:eek:

[gbarnard]

I remember ready in roughly the spring of 2006, some scholorly jounal. That they found crude oil on one of saturns moons, maybe triton. Provocing two questions:

Is oil not made from organic material as previously thought?

Or was there life on triton.

I haven't heard of it since then though

[freeze]

I had read in one of James McCanneys books that he believes that it fell from the sky thousands of years ago when a comet flew close by the earth ... the whole planet got bombarded which is why we find it at the bottom of oceans and also on other planets.

Makes more sense to me then the line of it being fossil fuels.....lol.... if that was the case why are there any dinosaur bones at all? LOL.....

[hagbard_celine]

I remember ready in roughly the spring of 2006, some scholorly jounal. That they found crude oil on one of saturns moons, maybe triton. Provocing two questions:

Is oil not made from organic material as previously thought?

Or was there life on triton.

I haven't heard of it since then though

It was Titan. I remember that Arthur C Clarke refers to this in his novel Imperial Earth. The characters go out onto the moon's surface one day to look at a "waxworm" which is a flow of hydrocarbons and petochemicals that forms a frozen crust on the surface like a lava tunnel. One of the characters takes off his spacesuit glove to touch the waxworm's surface. God, Clarke was such a good writer!:( I also heard that the atmosphere of Titan contains a gas resembling natural gas like you use to cook your food! Where did that come from!?:eek:

The question is: Where did these substances come from when they're supposed to be "fossil fuels"?:confused: It can't have been fossils since Titan has ("supposedly!:eek:) no life. If these compounds and mixtures can form by non-biological processes on one planet then why can't they also form that way on another... like Earth.;)

[cruise4]

Methane gas under pressure.

[gbarnard]

It was Titan. I remember that Arthur C Clarke refers to this in his novel Imperial Earth. The characters go out onto the moon's surface one day to look at a "waxworm" which is a flow of hydrocarbons and petochemicals that forms a frozen crust on the surface like a lava tunnel. One of the characters takes off his spacesuit glove to touch the waxworm's surface. God, Clarke was such a good writer!:( I also heard that the atmosphere of Titan contains a gas resembling natural gas like you use to cook your food! Where did that come from!?:eek:

The question is: Where did these substances come from when they're supposed to be "fossil fuels"?:confused: It can't have been fossils since Titan has ("supposedly!:eek:) no life. If these compounds and mixtures can form by non-biological processes on one planet then why can't they also form that way on another... like Earth.;)

My thoughts exactly. YEs Titon supposedly rains methane as well, isn't methane only created by biological processes here on earth

[hagbard_celine]

My thoughts exactly. YEs Titon supposedly rains methane as well, isn't methane only created by biological processes here on earth

Yes, it's the source of that great Skeptic workmate: Swamp gas!:D

But if it exists on Titan then either another proces formed it... or there's life there! Both scenarioes are incredible!

[banoyes]

Oil is abiotic..that is...a natural by-product of the inner workings of the planet
BTW
The fossil fuel theory was instigated by a Freemason
and taught in Freemason founded schools
such as those found in Oxford.

[hagbard_celine]

Oil is abiotic..that is...a natural by-product of the inner workings of the planet
BTW
The fossil fuel theory was instigated by a Freemason
and taught in Freemason founded schools
such as those found in Oxford.


Yeas, the whole theory only dates back to the Freemason Mikhail Lomonosov in the 16th Century. Since then his view has been taken as accepted wisdom, in a typical repeating pattern that can be found in all subjects!:rolleyes:

Funnily enough, Russia has just overtaken Saudi Arabia as the world's top oil producer. This is the one country on Earth that has time for the non-fossil fuel oil theory!:D;)