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revelations
26-04-2008, 11:21 PM
I have messed around with this in the past, didnt do me any favors either!

But I was wondering if any of you know how to do ouija board in a safe way?

vorador
28-05-2008, 10:23 AM
i don't think there is. different people warn against it. from christians to new age psychics the common belief is that it's bad. sylvia brown is a psychic that appears frequently on the montel williams show. she said it's bad because it acts like a portal and attracts negative beings too it. my own experience is that my mom told me about how one of her friends messed with it and had very bad experiences with it. i would stay away.

zarah
28-05-2008, 10:59 AM
I agree.

All of the experiences Ive had with the boards are negative and Ive never heard them be described as 'safe'. Why dyou wanna use them? For fun? Or to make contact with a particular spirt?

Actually, as I was typing all of that I remembered a positive experience I had with one once: The spirit said he was my dead brother and allowed me and my OH at the time to feel him..it was a very peaceful, lovely sad experience. Whether that was him though, or a spirit playing with me I dont know.

neutron flux
28-05-2008, 01:30 PM
Hmmm...now where did all this hysteria about Ouija come from, I wonder?

The board acts as a mirror, so if you've had some negative experience then it's something that's already in you or another person at the board - so the board itself can be used as a self-development tool to cleanse any attachments that may have latched on to yourself or others.

It is imperative to learn as much as you can and do your research on a number of things before you even attempt using a board.

I don't think they're are bad at all - it depends on the people.

Don't believe the hype. :cool:

eternal_spirit
28-05-2008, 01:36 PM
Hmmm...now where did all this hysteria about Ouija come from, I wonder?

The board acts as a mirror, so if you've had some negative experience then it's something that's already in you or another person at the board - so the board itself can be used as a self-development tool to cleanse any attachments that may have latched on to yourself or others.

It is imperative to learn as much as you can and do your research on a number of things before you even attempt using a board.

I don't think they're are bad at all - it depends on the people.

Don't believe the hype. :cool:

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Because it's a tool one you can choose without the need for any Guru/teachers etc, they don't want us to know we have our own power and don't need the Mystery schools etc etc. We can do this without them.

And yes the moral and message of neutorns post is choose wisely who you do a board with. A state of mind can attract like energy, best not to dabble when you're in a bad mood IMO.

drael
28-05-2008, 04:15 PM
Its possible to do a relatively safe reading via this method, but there are more accurate and useful methods of contacting spirits - tarot for example. Spirits speak in symbols, as the universal language and communicate better through more traditional methods of divination.

That said, summoning spirits is silly. Even highly refined methods like direct channelling are not without danger. If u know a particular person who has passed, get someone to channel them for you, like a medium. With experience u can tell good from bad etc, but it takes time. Basically bad spirits can be very deceptive, so its like a kind of street smarts.

revelations
04-06-2008, 11:10 PM
Thanks for the replies, I dont have any real intention to EVER use the board again. I was just curious as to wether there was any info on how to do it in a safe and controled way. ;)

lostwonderer
13-06-2008, 04:33 PM
Ive tried it about 3-4 times,dont think there all that bad as people say.

eternal_spirit
13-06-2008, 04:40 PM
ts possible to do a relatively safe reading via this method, but there are more accurate and useful methods of contacting spirits - tarot for example. Spirits speak in symbols, as the universal language and communicate better through more traditional methods of divination.

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Why bother with symbols ( which can be missread )when you can use the English language, it's a much more direct way. BTW better off making your own spirit board ( I don't like the word ouija )

particlezen
13-06-2008, 04:46 PM
i've dabbled repeatedly and it never worked AT ALL.

eternal_spirit
13-06-2008, 04:56 PM
i've dabbled repeatedly and it never worked AT ALL.

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It's rare to get a result working alone. It also depends who you do this with, some people it works others it won't and can have better results at times almost seems random, ranging from... nothing, little results ...or a full blown coversation.

I had communciation for about 2 years alsmost every day. Gave me poems, even drew pictures. Used a wooden egg cup with a hole through it, to fit in a pencil ( sounds nuts but true ) put that on top of a piece of paper... I asked what did I have for dinner and it drew a pic of my meal.

A small glass tumbler is about the best slides easily, on a glass table, wood polished table, even a mirror.

Another time asked draw something topical in the News, drew the space shuttle. Not perfect drawings but good enough to make out what the picture was of.

The big mystery and question really is is it spirit communication, or some kind of way of communicating with yours and the people's involved subconcious minds.

Tried asking questions silently without speaking words, and been given answers to questions.

eternal_spirit
13-06-2008, 05:09 PM
cut equally 26 square pieces of paper to write the alphabet on, 10 pieces of paper with 0 to 9 written on, and two pieces with yes and no written on the paper.

Form a circle with the letters of the alphabet, then arrange the numbers 0 to 9 inside the cirle, in a straight line or in the shape of a semi circle, then place the yes and no in the middle of the circle.
A mirror or a polished smooth table is best, all you need then is a glass put this in the middle of the circle ( small tumbler is best) put your finger any you wish to use though index feels most comfortable on top of the glass and ask out in your mind or physically with words.....Is ther anybody there, or something similar anyone want to talk?
If it works and you get a strong connection with a spirit the speed the glass moves at is fast! don't panic unless it starts spelling out horrible stuff, just start again ask if anyone is there?
hopefully another purer spirit will then start to communicate with you.

If the glass moves towards the edge of the circle and trys to break through the circle aks it to stop and if it doesn't take your fingers off the glass. Some say you shouldn't allow the circle to be broken.

Be patient, sometimes it will spell words that seems like gibberish, maybe write them down and look these words up. If you don't get an on topic answer to a question, try wording the question differently.

revelations
13-06-2008, 05:14 PM
9 out 10 times i can get a glass to move within 30 seconds ...thats by myself without anyone else touching the glass. :eek:
i've dabbled repeatedly and it never worked AT ALL.

revolutionary_jam
13-06-2008, 05:23 PM
This is like a spiritual amusement park

there's some good advice:
Don't mess with other realms until you've mastered this realm...









...and when you master this realm you won't mess with other realms HAHAHHAHAHA

eternal_spirit
14-06-2008, 10:16 PM
cut equally 26 square pieces of paper to write the alphabet on, 10 pieces of paper with 0 to 9 written on, and two pieces with yes and no written on the paper.

Form a circle with the letters of the alphabet, then arrange the numbers 0 to 9 inside the cirle, in a straight line or in the shape of a semi circle, then place the yes and no in the middle of the circle.
A mirror or a polished smooth table is best, all you need then is a glass put this in the middle of the circle ( small tumbler is best) put your finger any you wish to use though index feels most comfortable on top of the glass and ask out in your mind or physically with words.....Is ther anybody there, or something similar anyone want to talk?
If it works and you get a strong connection with a spirit the speed the glass moves at is fast! don't panic unless it starts spelling out horrible stuff, just start again ask if anyone is there?
hopefully another purer spirit will then start to communicate with you.

If the glass moves towards the edge of the circle and trys to break through the circle aks it to stop and if it doesn't take your fingers off the glass. Some say you shouldn't allow the circle to be broken.

Be patient, sometimes it will spell words that seems like gibberish, maybe write them down and look these words up. If you don't get an on topic answer to a question, try wording the question differently.


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Did anyone try make the DIY
spirit board and have any results?

neutron flux
15-06-2008, 11:28 PM
This is a recent session that some might find interesting:

Session Date: May 25th 2008

Laura, Ark, and 7 other people present

A: Welcome!

Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?

A: 5 near of Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Why five?

A: It's a special occasion!

[Personal remarks deleted]

Q: (L) I have the idea that we should make a video to show people how to safely and effectively use a board-type instrument to work through their issues, to find out what's lurking in their own subconscious mind, possibly to do spirit release therapy on themselves (one of the few ways it can be done), and just in general to bring some light to the topic of using a board-type instrument as a means for self-development. What do you think about this idea?

A: 5 of us think it is stupendous!!!

Q: (L) Are there any particular dangers to this plan? If people who are ignorant or spiritually weak would attempt to use a board-type instrument, obviously they would have problems. Is that not correct?

A: Of course, but that is just the sort of person who would try trance channeling with absolutely no warning system in operation.

Q: (L) What do you mean by a warning system?

A: No conscious feedback.

Q: (L) What about people who talk about having played with a Ouija board or spirit board and they had some sort of bad experience and they felt like there was something evil there and they got scared away or creeped out? What about those kinds of stories?

A: Some of them are true, but most of them are just made up.

Q: (L) What about the ones that are true?

A: That is what we mean about a "warning system."

Q: (L) What do you mean that's what you mean by a warning system?

A: Those kinds of entities are around a lot of people, they just don't know it unless they interact in a way that removes the veil and exposes the fact.

Q: (L) So you're saying that when they use a board, it shows them what's there, and otherwise it's there and they don't know it. Is that what you're saying?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And does that also mean that if such people were to try some other form of channeling, that they would be interacting with something that their conscious mind would not perceive as yucky or unpleasant?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And why is that?

A: When an invitation to "come in" is given, the entity can produce pleasant sensations that override the conscious warning system. When a board type device is used, it gives a distance and a layer of protection. You then can choose if you wish to continue the contact or not. You don't have that choice when the entity has already been invited "in".

Q: (L) So it's kind of like the vampire movie! The vampire says, "Enter freely and of your own free will!" And if you do, you're screwed. And if you say, "Come in and talk to me, you're my higher self!" you're screwed! Very interesting. So in other words, when people are using the board and they have an unpleasant experience, it's actually a good thing because it's warning them to not proceed and to have no further contact with that entity. They can choose to send that entity on down the road. Is that basically it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Will that entity go away if they tell them to go?

A: Yes, normally: and they also have their full body sensorium to warn in the event that the entity does not. But having said that, it is also important to remember that most entities that are encountered this way are already "in residence." A person who has a direct personal encounter with a repellant entity is usually only meeting the "neighbors".

Q: (L) So you're saying that what people most often encounter in these exercises will be attached entities that they don't even know are in residence in their space? Is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So, anybody who encounters something really yucky and wants to throw the board away has just thrown away probably one of the best methods for finding out about this entity and helping to get rid of it. Is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Because just because they have thrown the board away, that doesn't mean the entity they've encountered has gone away. He has just been enticed to speak, and once the board is gone, he goes back to lurking. Is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Most unpleasant. (J) Is there ever a case where using a board could attract an entity that wasn't there beforehand? That seems to be the key question...

A: Yes, if the individual is knowledgable and the entity needs help. Also it must be made plain that young people, because of their natural tendency to dissociate, ought not to be around such activity.

Q: (Ark) Well, we still have the question about what happens to passive participants. (L) Passive participants in what respect? (Ark) I mean because we were talking about people who do the session, and they are so to say "active" at the board, but there are usually observers and a lot of entities attached to them...

A: That can present problems in some cases. Ideally all participants and attendees ought to be "clean."

Q: (L) Alright. So we'll deal with that some other time.
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End of session