Who believes in reps and who doesn't

[father ted]

A show of hands. Do you believe in reptillians, not sure, or don't.

[gravityhero23]

mmmm I believe in Reptiles - - -

I believe we have a reptilian brain as highlighted by mssrs Icke and Wilson/Leary etc.

I believe that its pretty strange that Chinese Astrology with its 12 animals have a dragon.\


Dinosaurs did once exist.

and with multiple mythologies regarding stories of the dragon the world over bodes importance.

and the fact that we still havent discovered all the underwater creatures and have a limited grasp on the physical constructs of this 5 dimensional world yet have an even greater lack of knowledge of other dimensions. .

yeah the reptilians exist somewhere in space/time, physical or non, well that is the question..

[lookfar]

Yep I believe in them. Far too much historical symbology etc to doubt it really.

Do you Father Ted?

[intruder]

I'm an unbeliever as far as "shape-shifting" reptilians are concerned.

[phoenix1]

Its undeniable really, if you believe in Darwinism Theory, you probarbly will say there are no such things as reptoids.

Me ?? I don't buy Darwinism, its SHITE in the textbooks they teach our kids ...FFS.

There are reptilians, and they have been here longer than humans.

There is no missing fuckin link either, only preconceptions. to fit a fuckin theory/

A theory is just that..a theory..until it is Law..

And on the missing link there is only intervention.

That's my angle.

Phoenix

[siliconpsychosis]

I believe in Lizard Corp 100 percent. As has been mentioned above, undeniable evidence and totally logical.

[kha zarr]

not convinced on reptiles at this point.

[cycle of eternity]

I certainly do. It makes perfect sense and leaves no real holes when using
your common sense about it, like many have you have said already, there's
a lot of historical proof and evidence. I'm totally convinced.

There's a reason why the Illuminati preform these rituals. Unlike some like
to think (like Alex Jones) that they're just doing it for kicks, like at Bohemian Grove.
There's a reason why they take their symbology so literally. There's a reason to
all of it, and it's all real. That's just not my opinion, it's real. It's all real!
Many don't realize how real this really is.

[lookfar]

Its undeniable really, if you believe in Darwinism Theory, you probarbly will say there are no such things as reptoids.

Me ?? I don't buy Darwinism, its SHITE in the textbooks they teach our kids ...FFS.

There are reptilians, and they have been here longer than humans.

There is no missing fuckin link either, only preconceptions. to fit a fuckin theory/

A theory is just that..a theory..until it is Law..

And on the missing link there is only intervention.

That's my angle.

Phoenix

Well said phoenix :) totally agree with you here! Isn't it about time they updated the Darwinism stuff they teach kids these days?!

[hagbard_celine]

Aye.

(I think a one-word answer is appropriate in the context of this thread.)

[lookfar]

Or a poll maybe???

[STARWALKER]

Yes I do...
Have seen them a number of times now!
They seem shy somehow... Wonder why? ;)

[midwich cuckoo]

I believe they are one of many races of beings who have been visiting mankind, some of whom are responsible for our present situation.

[tinmenace]

I believe they are one of many races of beings who have been visiting mankind, some of whom are responsible for our present situation.

Precisely!

[the_pale_man]

I believe, but I still doubt the extraterrestrial element of it. I think they're either highly evolved dinosaurs, or simply vampires in their natural form (I started a thread on this, HERE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2271)), which would mean that they are (or were) human first and reptilian second.

[purple is a fruit]

Yes I do.

purple

[father ted]

Thank fuck for all the people that believe in reptillians, reading some of the posts I thought I joined the wrong forum.

I believe in reptillians, I believe in shapeshifters and I believe in shapeshifters existing in our density. I believe in reptillians existing in other densities. I believe that reptillians run the world, I think that those that rule over the reptillians running the world are reptillian and there may more than likely be other species involved in manipulating us, an alliance with the reptillians.

A poll is absolutely useless, you don't know who's saying what. I want to know WHO believes in reptillians. Show yourselves!

[oneofmany]

A show of hands. Do you believe in reptillians, not sure, or don't.

Too many stories from native peoples from all over the world for there to be any doubt in my mind. Do people think that native peoples make this shit up for their health or something? Why would they lie?. This could also be the reason that the Illuminati started a pogrom on all native peoples of the world hundreds of years ago, to stop them telling the truth about what's really going on in this world maybe? just a possibility but a strong one for mine.

[father ted]

Too many stories from native peoples from all over the world for there to be any doubt in my mind. Do people think that native peoples make this shit up for their health or something? Why would they lie?. This could also be the reason that the Illuminati started a pogrom on all native peoples of the world hundreds of years ago, to stop them telling the truth about what's really going on in this world maybe? just a possibility but a strong one for mine.

Yes, intelligent reptilian beings in their stories don't just get made up out of thin air. Think about it.

[oneofmany]

Yes, intelligent reptilian beings in their stories don't just get made up out of thin air. Think about it.The naysayers would call it "mythology" or "dreamtime" or some other bullshit, but at the end of the day,they had no books to document their history in, it was done by drawing pictures on cave walls and of course orally. Anyone that believes these stories are "myth" have a serious judgement flaw and don't know the truth when they hear it.

[truthcommission]

Too many stories from native peoples from all over the world for there to be any doubt in my mind...
Agreed.

I watched the movie Ten Canoes about the aboriginal people in Arnhem Land in NT. One line in the story which struck me was when they were talking about the 'Goana People' who visited them many moons ago.

They weren't just master storytellers but shamans who were well aware of different realities and hyper-dimensional beings.

[father ted]

Wasn't kerry packer's nick name goana?

[oneofmany]

Agreed.

I watched the movie Ten Canoes about the aboriginal people in Arnhem Land in NT. One line in the story which struck me was when they were talking about the 'Goana People' who visited them many moons ago.

They weren't just master storytellers but shamans who were well aware of different realities and hyper-dimensional beings.

I loved this movie, and did you know there are still tribes out in Arnhemland that still live like that. Aboriginals are amazing people, full of knowledge of the land, and other things that go on right in front of the White Mans noses.

[oneofmany]

Wasn't kerry packer's nick name goana?Really, I never heard that one before

[wizard]

Not sure on the shape shifting reptile stuff. But i wouldn"t discount it either.
I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief.

[truthcommission]

I loved this movie, and did you know there are still tribes out in Arnhemland that still live like that. Aboriginals are amazing people, full of knowledge of the land, and other things that go on right in front of the White Mans noses.
It really is an amazing look inside the culture of Yolngu people. They have been around long time and have a much greater understanding of the cosmos than our so called highly advanced civilization.

[pollock]

Hmm, I only just heard about all this half a year ago, so give me some time, but it sure would explain a lot of things!

F

[father ted]

Really, I never heard that one before

Well actually, when he died, they played a clip of him throughout his life. One of them was about some sort of controversy he was involved in I think in the 90's. It involved a secret person who's alias name was "goana" and there was strong suspicion that it was packer. They showed a clip of packer denying this infront of court.
Does anyone know more about this?

[father ted]

Here's a bit of info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_Packer

Scroll down to the "controversy" heading, or better yet, type in "goanna" in your find option.

[number 6]

I know they exist. I know where to find them too. Not all of them are set on the control / destruction of mankind.

[tinmenace]

I know they exist. I know where to find them too. Not all of them are set on the control / destruction of mankind.

I am in agreement with you there. So, what do YOU know? Don't tease us like this! :D

[father ted]

I know they exist. I know where to find them too. Not all of them are set on the control / destruction of mankind.

How could you say something like that and not tell us?:D

[number 6]

I am in agreement with you there. So, what do YOU know? Don't tease us like this! :D


I'd rather not say at the moment.

The first time I heard about such things was in 1996/7 when a friend (a credited academic with no interest in anything about aliens, masons or mysteries) came round my house in a complete state of panic after witnessing a shapeshift. His girlfriend also witnessed this event.

I didn't think much about it until a year or two later when something very similar, in almost the same circumstances, happened to me. Then it happened again and again.

At one point I was so scared / paranoid / confused that I looked towards David Icke for answers. Unfortunately, I'm now more confused than ever (but less scared and paranoid).

[friendsinthesky]

Well actually, when he died, they played a clip of him throughout his life. One of them was about some sort of controversy he was involved in I think in the 90's. It involved a secret person who's alias name was "goana" and there was strong suspicion that it was packer. They showed a clip of packer denying this infront of court.Does anyone know more about this?

LoL, I remember the clip but not the whole story, although he proved once again on his elusive skills. Also, one look at Packer (pre-death) and you can see a resemblance to a goanna.(sorry kerry):eek:

* I vote yes to the thread.:)

[father ted]

LoL, I remember the clip but not the whole story, although he proved once again on his elusive skills. Also, one look at Packer (pre-death) and you can see a resemblance to a goanna.(sorry kerry)

A few people like prince phillip, packer and some high society people that I've seen have those redish/dark spots on their face, usually to the side, near the temple. They look like blotches. It makes them look like they've got reptillian skin. Packer looked like a goanna, probably more like an iganua, if there ever was a lookalike.

[21_12_2012]

I believe ...

[tinmenace]

I'd rather not say at the moment.

The first time I heard about such things was in 1996/7 when a friend (a credited academic with no interest in anything about aliens, masons or mysteries) came round my house in a complete state of panic after witnessing a shapeshift. His girlfriend also witnessed this event.

I didn't think much about it until a year or two later when something very similar, in almost the same circumstances, happened to me. Then it happened again and again.

At one point I was so scared / paranoid / confused that I looked towards David Icke for answers. Unfortunately, I'm now more confused than ever (but less scared and paranoid).

Wow, ok. Well, if you're telling the truth, you shouldn't withhold this kind of information because this is the kind of stuff we need to break the spell. So, if you really believe in freedom, you should share more information. Withhold names if you must, but you should share location and circumstances so those of us that are actively involved in research can follow new clues. You don't have to compromise your identity, but you owe it to mankind to share this info.

Now is the time...

[lookfar]

At one point I was so scared / paranoid / confused that I looked towards David Icke for answers. Unfortunately, I'm now more confused than ever (but less scared and paranoid).

Hi number6

This is very intriguing & I can understand your predicament with your job etc. But when you say that you "turned to David Icke for answers", did you actually get in contact with him personally to discuss this or did you turn to his information?

Thanks for sharing.

[father ted]

Hi number 6,
can you draw a picture of what you saw?

[graflok]

http://www.voyle.net/Un-Worked%20Pics/Big%20Thumbs%20Up.jpg


graflok

[number 6]

Hi Father Ted, Lookfar and Tinmenace,

Okay, this weekend I'll type out my experiences for you to check out. I've got a long weekend so I'll have time.

[number 6]

did you actually get in contact with him personally to discuss this or did you turn to his information?


No I didn't get in contact with him, but I was aware that one of his research topics was the reptillian agenda so I went out to buy his books or vids that focused on that.

The first VHS I bought was 'Turning the Tide'. I sat all the way through it waiting for him to get started on the reptiles but he never got there. It was still a good presentation though.

[father ted]

Thanks number 6, give us as much as you can:) :cool:

[davy26]

No I don't believe they exist...

I KNOW they exist, so why waist time believing? Take me to absolute knowing. I was even bitten by one...

[father ted]

No I don't believe they exist...

I KNOW they exist, so why waist time believing? Take me to absolute knowing. I was even bitten by one...

You had to go one better than all the believers, didn't you:D

Are you that guy that asked that question about reptilian bites?:confused:

[seperatefromtheherd]

I think there are reptilians just as there are countless other species that the average human isn't aware of. I mean lets face it, human beings typically still are EXTREMELY primitive people. Besides yeah like a lot of you are saying, theres way to much evidence to support their existance. I mean shit, native people and egyptians drew the motherfuckers in caves and in pyramids and shit. I highly doubt they made em up and drew them just for the hell of it. Same thing with the statues and scupltures as well.

[the_pale_man]

I was watching "What the Bleep do we know?!" last night, and I realized something: They say that the brain interprets 400 BILLION bits of visual information every second, but that we consciously see only 2,000 bits of info, meaning that we see very little what is actually in front of us.

What we consciously see is based upon our preconceived ideas of what is "real" and what isn't.

Just like the Native Americans who literally could NOT see Columbus' ships at sea, coming towards them, because they had never seen ships like that before, hadn't even imagined that such a thing could exist and their minds couldn't deal with this new reality, maybe we see Reptilians practically every day, but since we're not able to face such a disturbing new reality, we simply don't notice them, except for a few among us who simply happen to let their guard down at a particular moment in time and suddenly see them for what they truly are.

Maybe the illusion of the human form is not created by the Reptilians themselves, but by our own primitive, limited minds not being able to cope with their true appearance.

[lookfar]

No I didn't get in contact with him, but I was aware that one of his research topics was the reptillian agenda so I went out to buy his books or vids that focused on that.

The first VHS I bought was 'Turning the Tide'. I sat all the way through it waiting for him to get started on the reptiles but he never got there. It was still a good presentation though.

Hi number6

Thanks for taking the time to share, I look forward to reading it.

Have you thought of contacting David to discuss it though? I reckon he'd be interested to hear about it too & could possibly help you deal with it, don't you think it's worth a try?

[timestop24]

I'm still undecided.

[falseflag]

I'm completely open to the whole 'Reptilian theory', personally I never really thought it was that hard a theory to ingest,(having grown up with V) simply because of the massive amount of Reptilian symbolism littering mankind's history. I'm generally open to any supposed "far-out" theory, probly because I've never let myself be governed by belief systems.

[tinmenace]

I'm completely open to the whole 'Reptilian theory', personally I never really thought it was that hard a theory to ingest,(having grown up with V) simply because of the massive amount of Reptilian symbolism littering mankind's history. I'm generally open to any supposed "far-out" theory, probly because I've never let myself be governed by belief systems.

Bravo!

[father ted]

I'm with you fgalseflag, I don't know why it's such a hard pill to swallow, especially when there's so many people that believe in jesus and santa claus.

[losangelesgraffiti]

i beleave in them, and also have a hidden respect for them.

[indigo]

I believe too.

[noewhan]

I believ they exist, but we also must remeebr that some of them could be on our side too.

Good and bad in everything. Mabye.

[rebel ins]

I think they could exist, haven't seen them yet, I don't care on which side they're on

[intruder]

Yeah...I grew up with Star Trek.....and I still think William Shatner is a corny actor.

[aznality]

I wasn't sure about the whole rep thing in the first few months after discovering Icke's works. I remained undecided, but regarded it highly possible still. Now I believe they exist. There is just so much evidence coming from places in throughout the world. Furthermore, I've recently also begun to suspect I'm an offshoot from Illuminati/Rep bloodlines.

[lookfar]

I believ they exist, but we also must remeebr that some of them could be on our side too.

Good and bad in everything. Mabye.

Hi noewhan & welcome :)

I also believe that too :)

[sirius69]

yeah i remember watching "V" as a kid and it all seemed totally plausible to me.....i ummed and aahh'd a bit when reading about it in Ickes stuff to begin with...and im not aware of having seen them....but when i saw the video with Icke and Credo Mutwa...i just thought.....this CREDO guy....i dont think he is EVEN CAPABLE of telling lies.......hes too beautiful and real.......ive never seen Australia but i believe it exists

[lookfar]

yeah i remember watching "V" as a kid and it all seemed totally plausible to me.....i ummed and aahh'd a bit when reading about it in Ickes stuff to begin with...and im not aware of having seen them....but when i saw the video with Icke and Credo Mutwa...i just thought.....this CREDO guy....i dont think he is EVEN CAPABLE of telling lies.......hes too beautiful and real.......ive never seen Australia but i believe it exists

Hi sirius69 & welcome :)

Cool post :)

I remember "V" as a kid too (I thought Kyle was cute, LOL!) & know what you're saying about Credo, he's such an amazing man!!

Who are we, as minute human beings in the big scheme of things, to doubt the existence of anything really?!:)

[mcmenek1]

Hi,

I believe in them, there is far to much symbolism around depicting their existence not to....It was interesting when David Icke first started talking about them, he noticed that “The Powers That Be “ started to make life difficult for him....like hiring rent a mob to turn up at book signings .....Protesting that he was an anti-Semite......and preventing the book signings taken place. They obviously didn’t like him mentioning the ‘R’ word for some reason......... I wonder why!!.....could it be he was getting a bit too close to the truth.

You might have already seen these pictures but I thought I would post them anyway as I think they are really revealing about the reptilian existence






Love
&
Peace

[eternal_spirit]

erm yes no yes no don't know.

[tinmenace]

Hi,

I believe in them, there is far to much symbolism around depicting their existence not to....It was interesting when David Icke first started talking about them, he noticed that “The Powers That Be “ started to make life difficult for him....like hiring rent a mob to turn up at book signings .....Protesting that he was an anti-Semite......and preventing the book signings taken place. They obviously didn’t like him mentioning the ‘R’ word for some reason......... I wonder why!!.....could it be he was getting a bit too close to the truth.

You might have already seen these pictures but I thought I would post them anyway as I think they are really revealing about the reptilian existence






Love
&
Peace

Right, those sculptures are incredible. They're the work of Norwegian artists Gustav Vigeland. His most famous work is at the Vigelandsparken in Oslo Norway. It's a study of the human condition, apparently something he was greatly interested in. I find it absolutely fascinating that part of the human condition study includes man's battle with lizards.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/reptilevigeland.jpg

Very telling indeed!

[davy26]

Hey.....

Yep Father that would be meee! The bitten boy.lol

[lilloz]

I believe http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon3.gif

[indigo]

Anyone know how far back those statues are dated?

[tinmenace]

Anyone know how far back those statues are dated?

Here's his biography (http://www.museumsnett.no/vigelandmuseet/3vigeland/3a_biografi/engelsk/3aframeset.html)

[indigo]

Here's his biography (http://www.museumsnett.no/vigelandmuseet/3vigeland/3a_biografi/engelsk/3aframeset.html)
Great. Thanks:D

[phoenix1]

Well said phoenix :) totally agree with you here! Isn't it about time they updated the Darwinism stuff they teach kids these days?!

Yeah it is lookfar...I'm not entirely in agreement with this very interesting and funny man who got 10 years in jail for going against Darwinism,

He's well worth a liston too though, and he's savvy on the NWO

Dr Kent Hovind (me I ain't subscribing to any particular religion as you know but)

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=Kent+Hovind

I learned a lot from this man over the last few days;:)

[noewhan]

HE he, heres a film that was uploaded to a move/game thing. Heaps of kids saw it he he.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=8006120857467496974&q=Red+Elk

Red Elk, George Noory, and Alex Jones as narrators.

[lookfar]

Yeah it is lookfar...I'm not entirely in agreement with this very interesting and funny man who got 10 years in jail for going against Darwinism,

He's well worth a liston too though, and he's savvy on the NWO

Dr Kent Hovind (me I ain't subscribing to any particular religion as you know but)

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=Kent+Hovind

I learned a lot from this man over the last few days;:)

Thanks Phoenix - I'll go check out the link!!:)

[father ted]

HE he, heres a film that was uploaded to a move/game thing. Heaps of kids saw it he he.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=8006120857467496974&q=Red+Elk

Red Elk, George Noory, and Alex Jones as narrators.

I watched this, who's the guy talking about the reptilians? Does he have a website? Can you talk more about this vid?

[joffausy]

:rolleyes: No I do NOT believe in shapeshifting lizards.But i am not an Icke fan nor do intend to brown nose him or conform to this forum.
The more you people talk about such crap the more people of sound mind are less likely to believe the other conspiracy theories that are less wacky and sci fi like, and more crediable eg Illuminati etc.

Infact I think David icke is actually giving conspiracy theorists a bad name by bringing all is Lizard crap into it. And you lot wonder why no will take you seriously!. I notice a few of you are from Australia like myself i find this hard to believe as aussies are usually the most down to earth and sceptical of nationalities when it comes to stuff like conspiracy theories especially the more wacky ones.

I live in metro NSW i know most mainstream aussie would think i was off my tree if said anything close to shapeshifting lizards that fact that a sizeable number of americans and british believe this stuff seems to say something about the gullibility of your culture compared to Australian culture australians in general are more sceptical about such things and more likely to dismiss them offhand and outright!. :cool:

[tinmenace]

:rolleyes: No I do NOT believe in shapeshifting lizards.But i am not an Icke fan nor do intend to brown nose him or conform to this forum.
The more you people talk about such crap the more people of sound mind are less likely to believe the other conspiracy theories that are less wacky and sci fi like, and more crediable eg Illuminati etc.

Infact I think David icke is actually giving conspiracy theorists a bad name by bringing all is Lizard crap into it. And you lot wonder why no will take you seriously!. I notice a few of you are from Australia like myself i find this hard to believe as aussies are usually the most down to earth and sceptical of nationalities when it comes to stuff like conspiracy theories especially the more wacky ones.

I live in metro NSW i know most mainstream aussie would think i was off my tree if said anything close to shapeshifting lizards that fact that a sizeable number of americans and british believe this stuff seems to say something about the gullibility of your culture compared to Australian culture australians in general are more sceptical about such things and more likely to dismiss them offhand and outright!. :cool:


So, you read David's books and they weren't for you, and that's why you're not an Icke fan?

My impression is that you haven't read the first book because he never called them lizards. That's what all the morons that have never read his books but try to debunk him, call them.

David doesn't owe anyone any explanation or apology for his books. He lays out research, which includes a reptilian agenda, and provides his reasoning for going in that direction. He's not asking you to believe it, he's simply sharing information that we all have a right to know is out there. What you do with that information is up to you. But I recommend that you read it all before you decide whether or not it's actually for you. To absorb other people's opinions as your own is robotic.

Conspiracy theorists, eh? As a free man, David has no obligation to any other author, and doesn't at all subscribe to a herd mentality where every conspiracy writer has to report the same story for it to be acceptable. If you had read any of his books you would understand this concept.

One last thing. This isn't conspiracy theory. It's conspiracy...and the reptilian agenda is one tiny part of it. There is so much more than that, but only you can walk down a path of awakening and unveil the truth for yourself.

David doesn't force anyone to read or believe anything, in fact he encourages people to do their own research.

So, please, get a grip.

[ho1ogram]

Well said ace :)

I believe in everything - infinite possibility. I have encountered ghosts/entities on numerous occasions, definitely believe them to be interdimensional and reps are interdimensional too. Haven't met a rep, may have felt them though... they are influencing our behaviours and thoughts or exist because of our behaviours and thought patterns. We are in one frequency surrounded by others that stretch into infinity.. you can tap into waht ever you like.. as a mass population we have tapped into/drawn to us/created the reps. So yes Ted I believe.

[joffausy]

So, you read David's books and they weren't for you, and that's why you're not an Icke fan?

My impression is that you haven't read the first book because he never called them lizards. That's what all the morons that have never read his books but try to debunk him, call them.

Your impression is a little wrong then sir!. I have read one of Davids books that being "Children of the Matrix".However i am not going to read too many more. I simply do not have the time to waste nor money to read too many more of his rather large works.I would like to know what is you do for living which allows you so much time on your hands to read so many of Davids works.Do you also read other conspiracy authors or media presenters or only David Icke!.

David doesn't force anyone to read or believe anything, in fact he encourages people to do their own research.
Yes believe me ive done mine it appears to me that david is a charlatan that likes Media attention and had to do something to reserect his own failing Football reporting career so what better business idea than jump on the conspiracy bandwagon.Mind you in Australia David Icke is mostly unknown to the majority of people and always has been.
So, please, get a grip.
Get Grip on what MAN?. Ah the New Age perhaps!.
Actually you gave me an idea maybe David should produce or promote his own style of Glastonbury or Lala palooza festival. Might help pay for those hefty legal bills!.:rolleyes:

[garth]

Your impression is a little wrong then sir!. I have read one of Davids books that being "Children of the Matrix".However i am not going to read too many more. I simply do not have the time to waste nor money to read too many more of his rather large works.I would like to know what is you do for living which allows you so much time on your hands to read so many of Davids works.Do you also read other conspiracy authors or media presenters or only David Icke!.

Yes believe me ive done mine it appears to me that david is a charlatan that likes Media attention and had to do something to reserect his own failing Football reporting career so what better business idea than jump on the conspiracy bandwagon.Mind you in Australia David Icke is mostly unknown to the majority of people and always has been.

Get Grip on what MAN?. Ah the New Age perhaps!.
Actually you gave me an idea maybe David should produce or promote his own style of Glastonbury or Lala palooza festival. Might help pay for those hefty legal bills!.:rolleyes:

So what is it that you want here, you don't agree with David or the reptilian agenda, cool, your reality, if your after an argument then you are probably wasting your time as people here won't "try and make you see the light" as they are not Icke groupies and you appear to have very closed mind to the topic of discussion.

If you had read a few more of David's books you would also know that he had a sucessful career in T.V and a short stint in politics before taking up his present occupation. You'd be surprised how many people know of David here in OZ, but either way save your pathetic rhetoric as its just spam.

[tinmenace]

So, why are you unable to accept other points of view and leave in peace those that choose to believe in them?

Nobody's forcing you to believe anything David says. Why does it bother you so much that he has people that do believe and support him? Why is that such an issue for you?

[isa37]

We are the lizards….
It’s very easy and understandable to look for lizards out there. Bush, the Illuminati, whoever.
I think that the only place in which we can look and change things is inside ourselves, in our reptilian brain and type of response. Look at the way we react and suck energy from other people.
If we are not careful every interaction can become a hunt for energy.
When I am centred and in peace, other people behaviours don’t affect me and I can have compassion for whatever happens.
And Reptilians (in case they exist) cannot attack me.
But, when I am out of balance I reach out to get from others the energy I lack.
I become a reptilian myself.
If we would all be more aware and responsible in our relations the lizards existence wouldn’t really matter…..
Isa37

[chester]

We all know about chameleons. It’s not a shape that shifts, but their colours can shift to blend in with their environment. I think that is mind blowing to see. I had a pet chameleon when I was a kid (and had not evolved to where the pet thing is revealed to be what it is now for me – a prison for an animal). So if that can happen, why would I close my mind that other types of “shift” of a life form when viewed by an outside observer might not be possible?
Ok, and if I understand David’s take on this shape shifting thing, there is a shared genetic code – human and reptilian – an overall genetic makeup that allows the being to shift in vibratory frequency in such a way that effects how that being is perceived by another being. Various triggers that cause this shift have been identified by researchers who have studied thousands of cases where people claim they observed some form of shape shifting.
Here are my questions to researchers:
In your research, are there all sorts of cases you have come upon where a human shape is observed to shift into other types of beings? Say rabbits? Or mosquitoes? Or sugar cane? And if so, how many of those cases were there where the shift was into reptilian form and for how many was the shift into a non reptilian form? What is that ratio of reptilian and other than reptilian shift cases?
From my research, the cases where claims of seeing a human shift partially or fully into another form overwhelmingly involve reptilian form. That raises my eyebrows even further.
Ok, so now that my mind is a bit more open to these possibilities I go back in my own life to 21 years ago. I experienced one time seeing the pupils of the eyes of some ladies who I had seen several times before (as always just normal circled pupils - human) take the form of what I then called “alien eyes.” Their pupils were in the shape of the vesica pisces positioned longwise from top to bottom. It is only in the last 6 or so years of my own research via all the various sources available on the net and in publications and other media that I have found very often this same eye shape described by so many people who say they witnessed a reptilian shape shift (and lived to tell I might add).
Now David (and others) have mentioned that there are triggers which can cause this like the sight / smell of fresh blood (especially when juiced up with adrenalin due to the inducement of fear). In David’s description, this seems to cause a change in the vibratory frequency where an observing being can see some or all of the reptilian form of the shape shifting being. Again, the shape shifter’s vibrational frequency changes such that the observing being is able to now “see with his/her eyes” the reptilian form.
OK, so how can that explain why I am suddenly seeing reptilian eyes in docile ladies who I had seen many times before in the past and who I could say had absolutely no triggers that might result in this experience for myself? Well, if I consider the hypothesis about triggers causing an observer and the observed to shift in vibrational frequencies where the observer now sees some type of partial or full reptilian form, then why not could the observer’s frequency itself shift such that it could see the unexcited reptilian component of the observed being?
I apologize if what I wrote is confusing so let me try it this way. It seems I recall that David mentioned that at least one form of extra terrestrial race had visited earth and mated with earth women (or so the story goes) and that from this mating came the hybrid races where the Royal Families come from (a purer version of the hybrid as opposed to a mostly human hybrid). This suggests to me that many of us if not most or maybe even all may have some of the genetic makeup of the extra terrestrials. If that is the case and there happens to be something to the shift in vibrational frequencies of the “shape shifter” closing the gap of perception such that one can see the reptilian component, then why could it also not be possible for a perceiver to shift their vibration frequency as well to a level where they could see the reptilian form of a totally unexcited and/or low ratio of reptile to human blooded being?
So the final part here to add is that at the time I had this experience, I was moving through a very high stress period of my life. So high stressed that I had all sorts of unexplainable experiences - this being just one of them. The point here is that it is clear my “normal” vibrational states were anything but present during this brief time when I saw those “alien eyes.”
I will add a few more points. I have never before or never since had hallucinations until I went through another even greater period of “freak out” so to speak until I hit the last grand episode of my life (in my early and middle 40s) where, after I emerged from the high stress stage, I discovered Icke. This occurred because one of my very dearest and wisest friends handed me The Biggest Secret which so happened to have been given to her by a stranger she met while travelling in the UK. In her words, she knew at the time the book was maybe not for her. But soon after she returned, she realized it was meant for me. Cosmic attraction? I don’t read much of anything into that though – ever since - my world has become one fantastic ride of synchronicity and turned completely upside down.
Conclusion for myself is that there could be something to this shape shifting thing and that if so, it probably at least involves reptilian form. In addition, and I have never seen this mentioned by any researcher, but it seems possible that the observer’s vibrational state may be able to create the “seeing” of the reptilian form (partially or completely) just as well as the vibrational state of the shape shifter changing results in its reptilian component being seen.
Probably the term “shape shifter” is a being that is capable of intentionally and/or by triggers shifting the form it is perceived to be – between human and reptilian. But can we create a term for the state of a human where they have shifted to be able to see the reptilian component of other beings? To even those who are predominantly NOT made up of the reptilian genes and may be quite docile throughout their lives?
My final comment and my answer to this thread is, YES, I am open minded that there may be something to shape shifting and that I take this even further in sharing my thoughts and experience as described above.
I would like to hear comments from serious folks and/or any true researchers. And would be glad to give in depth personal interviews to any serious researchers and take polygraphs or whatever else someone might suggests makes my testimony more credible. Note: this experience is a tiny fraction of the fantastic experiences I have endured and I have been able to relate to these (now – certainly not so much back then) from a quite down to earth perspective.

[friendsinthesky]

We all know about chameleons. It’s not a shape that shifts, but their colours can shift to blend in with their environment.

..and the octopus is a 'great' color shifter. The rest of your post chester is interesting reading, thanks for sharing..:)

[aznality]

The more you people talk about such crap the more people of sound mind are less likely to believe the other conspiracy theories that are less wacky and sci fi like, and more crediable eg Illuminati etc.

Infact I think David icke is actually giving conspiracy theorists a bad name by bringing all is Lizard crap into it. And you lot wonder why no will take you seriously!. I notice a few of you are from Australia like myself i find this hard to believe as aussies are usually the most down to earth and sceptical of nationalities when it comes to stuff like conspiracy theories especially the more wacky ones.

Everybody has an opinion. So RESPECT it. Whether they are right or wrong, you aren't the judge to brand things as 'crap' or people as 'wacky'.

[exmicrochipmafia]

Not only do I believe in them, I work for a whole family of them.
The daughter is the matriarch of the whole bunch and she keeps the father and mother in line.
My wife and I even watched her lose control of the left side of her face, in our presence, and have to 'look at the computer at a few things' more than a couple of times. The entire left side of her face would twitch and almost look like she had a stroke just before she had to turn around and gain composure.
My wife, by the way, is a Shaman, in the Lakota tradition.... nothing but pure love emanating off of this woman and she KNEW that she's at least alien-hybrid from that reaction.

[truthcommission]

i know most mainstream aussie would think i was off my tree if said anything close to shapeshifting lizards that fact that a sizeable number of americans and british believe this stuff seems to say something about the gullibility of your culture compared to Australian culture australians in general are more sceptical about such things and more likely to dismiss them offhand and outright!. :cool:
Lets be honest here...Australians don't really have a culture. I've seen more culture in a tub of natural yogurt. I live in Australia and would have to say that so called Aussie culture is a watered down version of European and American culture. I know this because I have spent many years living in Britain and the United States. By reading your post it is clear that you have never traveled outside your own country. The best Aussies can come with is Big Bananas or Big Pineapples or beer and pie (which is hardly original). Everything else is imported.

Yes believe me ive done mine it appears to me that david is a charlatan that likes Media attention and had to do something to reserect his own failing Football reporting career so what better business idea than jump on the conspiracy bandwagon.Mind you in Australia David Icke is mostly unknown to the majority of people and always has been.
This is such a 1980's mentality. Maybe this the insular backwards Australia that is your experience. By the way there are plenty of Pauline Hanson supporters out there. What does that say about Australia?

[father ted]

Not only do I believe in them, I work for a whole family of them.
The daughter is the matriarch of the whole bunch and she keeps the father and mother in line.
My wife and I even watched her lose control of the left side of her face, in our presence, and have to 'look at the computer at a few things' more than a couple of times. The entire left side of her face would twitch and almost look like she had a stroke just before she had to turn around and gain composure.
My wife, by the way, is a Shaman, in the Lakota tradition.... nothing but pure love emanating off of this woman and she KNEW that she's at least alien-hybrid from that reaction.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Talk more.
Got any pictures? What's the family's name? What's their business? ect. Elaborate.

[father ted]

Lets be honest here...Australians don't really have a culture. I've seen more culture in a tub of natural yogurt.
That's a massive understatement.

Australia and would have to say that so called Aussie culture is a watered down version of European and American culture.

In the school curriculum when I was at school they tried to push the "what is the australian culture" and "what does it mean to be australian" down our throats. It was so lame, because this whole "australian culture" thing is/was being forced and made up out of not much, just another thing to drive nationalism as well.

When you visit other countries you will be amazed at how little australia has regarding culture. Any country (bar some). It doesn't even bare arguing about. An outsider looking in will see the whole picture but an insider living in his/her will only see part of it. Example, would you rely on americans to judge their own culture or a brit? or a frenchman or a german etc.

Of course there are things that are good about australia and in a way the lack of culture is one of them. There's good and bad and in between. Just look at what culture has done for some other countries:eek:

Ps, just shows how little you know joffausy, Icke's football career ended because of a physical condition not because it failed. It sounds like he was a great goalkeeper.

[oneofmany]

Here's a bit of info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_Packer

Scroll down to the "controversy" heading, or better yet, type in "goanna" in your find option.quote wikipedia
His most severe legal challenge came in 1984 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984) with the Costigan Commission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costigan_Commission) alleging (using the codename of "the squirrel", renamed "the Goanna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goanna)" in media reports[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_Packer#_note-1)) that he was involved in tax evasion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_evasion) and organised crime, including drug trafficking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_trafficking). He successfully counter-attacked the Commission with the assistance of his counsel Malcolm Turnbull (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Turnbull). In 1987 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987) the charges were formally dismissed by Federal Attorney-General (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney-General) Lionel Bowen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Bowen). Mystery still surrounds Packer's receipt of a "loan" of $225,000 in cash from Brian Ray (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brian_Ray_%28businessman%29&action=edit) a bankrupt Queensland businessman.[2] (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/missing-a-mate-with-a-loan-for-packer/2005/07/10/1120934128872.html)

The bold name that stands out, proves to me that there is some substance in this story. Rhodes Scholar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_Scholarship) and Oxford University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_University) comes to mind with said individual. Need I say more. Well I will, because Kerry, bought his way out of trouble, but he couldn't silence everyone. The fact that Malcolm Turnbull was his mouthpiece, just says to me that the man had connections in the highest of high places.

[oneofmany]

:rolleyes: No I do NOT believe in shapeshifting lizards.But i am not an Icke fan nor do intend to brown nose him or conform to this forum.
The more you people talk about such crap the more people of sound mind are less likely to believe the other conspiracy theories that are less wacky and sci fi like, and more crediable eg Illuminati etc.

Infact I think David icke is actually giving conspiracy theorists a bad name by bringing all is Lizard crap into it. And you lot wonder why no will take you seriously!. I notice a few of you are from Australia like myself i find this hard to believe as aussies are usually the most down to earth and sceptical of nationalities when it comes to stuff like conspiracy theories especially the more wacky ones.

I live in metro NSW i know most mainstream aussie would think i was off my tree if said anything close to shapeshifting lizards that fact that a sizeable number of americans and british believe this stuff seems to say something about the gullibility of your culture compared to Australian culture australians in general are more sceptical about such things and more likely to dismiss them offhand and outright!. :cool:

Patriotism is a trap friend. Don't talk for your fellow countryman, as they tend to have their own opinion. If you don't agree with the subject at hand, just say so, but only on your behalf, because a lot of Australians that have been exposed to this information, have come to see some validity in what is being said here. If you don't believe me, check out this Australian pioneer in the field of cryptozoology, Rex Gilroy here. (http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com)

If you don't see anything of relevance, then simply ignore it, don't rubbish it, that's not Australian, as your so proud of calling yourself. Me personally, I'm Human

[oneofmany]

Lets be honest here...Australians don't really have a culture. I've seen more culture in a tub of natural yogurt. I live in Australia and would have to say that so called Aussie culture is a watered down version of European and American culture. I know this because I have spent many years living in Britain and the United States. By reading your post it is clear that you have never traveled outside your own country. The best Aussies can come with is Big Bananas or Big Pineapples or beer and pie (which is hardly original). Everything else is imported.


This is such a 1980's mentality. Maybe this the insular backwards Australia that is your experience. By the way there are plenty of Pauline Hanson supporters out there. What does that say about Australia?

Your bagging an entire nation, of which you happen to be an inhabitant of for one ill thought out post!!! If you don't like our country, you could always go back home, wherever that happens to be for you. as for the state of Australia, It's in the same fucked up situation that the rest of the world is in, If you can't see that the powers that be are trying to bring a worldwide culture in, then you deserve to be a follower of all culture. It's all a trap anyhow. Terrence McKenna summed it up beautifully in this piece here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOy3H4yyocQ)

enough said, Happily live your reality, but don't inflict it on us

[exmicrochipmafia]

Here you go Ted:

The come from Germany and the parents are in that age range to have come around that post war era, ie the Nazi Regime.
The mother apparently stole the 'family fortune' and they fled to Canada, where they bought up real estate and became, at one time, one of the largest landlord companies in the province of Ontario- much of their property is gone save for a few apartment buildings and apartment complexes, one of which I'm employed in as a Superintendent (apartment building that is).
They are utterly and completely racist and employ a bunch of elder germans (same age/era range) who are totally racist as well.
Last name is Pieckenhagen. The moderator can remove if he feels it's inappropriate to have it here but I stand by my convictions none the less.
There is a small room in the bowels of this high rise that only he has the solitary key to, and it's coded 'KKK'.
I tell ya there is some wickedly evil energy that flies around in here, and he projects it from behind a smiley face...that mask can't hide what we're seeing. His wife puts out just as much of that energy too. When she stares at you it's like some kind of snake trying to transfix you. I just think thoughts and try to project them at her like, 'I see you and you're powerless over me.'
Just about everybody who works here is beaten down and submissive, save for my wife and I....we need to and are working on getting out of here ASAP.
There are even souls that are trapped here and there are some places in the basement neither of us will go alone.
The entire grounds of these high rises emanates a completely negative vortex, and there have even been suicides as recently as a year ago that are suspicious to say the least.
Hope this has fed that Curiosity there Ted.

[truthcommission]

Your bagging an entire nation...you could always go back home
You seem to have changed your tune from here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=29233#post29233) and here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15498&postcount=10). I have as much right to inhabit this land as you do so enough of your racist jibes. As far as I am concerned white Anglo-saxon Australia is part of the problem and when this whole thing comes crashing down around your ears you probably won't be harping about what a proud little aussiemite you are!

Terrence McKenna summed it up beautifully in this piece...
My point exactly. Culture is NOT your friend.

[oneofmany]

You seem to have changed your tune from here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=29233#post29233) and here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15498&postcount=10). I have as much right to inhabit this land as you do so enough of your racist jibes.

How was I racist? what I said had nothing at all to do with rasism and the first post you've used, confirms my belief in reptiles as much as the second, so I don't see the point you are driving at here :confused:


As far as I am concerned white Anglo-saxon Australia is part of the problem and when this whole thing comes crashing down around your ears you probably won't be harping about what a proud little aussiemite you are! Once again I am confused, as I am proud of the people and the beautiful country, but I am in no way patriotic, as for when it all comes down, I was taught by Aboriginals (some of my best friends) to live off the land, so I won't be worried at all


My point exactly. Culture is NOT your friend.This is the only point that I agree with in this post

[truthcommission]

Thanks for responding to my PM in such a friendly way and being open to the sharing of each others point of view.

All respect brother.

[oneofmany]

Thanks for responding to my PM in such a friendly way and being open to the sharing of each others point of view.

All respect brother.No problem at all, because at the end of the day we are all One-of-many in this world, with varying opinions to which we are each entitled to hold. To deny this would be like denying myself.

Peace and love to you Brother

[truthcommission]

To deny this would be like denying myself.
You have made me have a MASSIVE realization today...

You know I am beginning to see that many people although they might claim they are Australian, American or whatever other nationality are not really that at all. I feel that they don't have a deep connection to this earth. They are literally not of this planet. Our earth connection is the way we can expose those hidden controllers and reclaim our humanity from the real destroyers of our lovely planet earth and its inhabitants.

to which you replied...

By identifying yourself with where you live, your missing out on all the wonders around this beautiful world, which is also a part of us, and this is what patriotic people don't seem to understand. This is the world we live in and where we are standing right at the moment is only a fraction of the whole. If we are ever to become one, we have to see each other as one. Then and only then will we have everlasting peace and prosperity.

Peace, Love and Light.

[oneofmany]

You have made me have a MASSIVE realization today... you have always known it within yourself, it's just never manifested into words for you before

Peace, Love and Light. and what you say here proves it :D

Peace love and light to you brother

[father ted]

Here you go Ted:

The come from Germany and the parents are in that age range to have come around that post war era, ie the Nazi Regime.
The mother apparently stole the 'family fortune' and they fled to Canada, where they bought up real estate and became, at one time, one of the largest landlord companies in the province of Ontario- much of their property is gone save for a few apartment buildings and apartment complexes, one of which I'm employed in as a Superintendent (apartment building that is).
They are utterly and completely racist and employ a bunch of elder germans (same age/era range) who are totally racist as well.
Last name is Pieckenhagen. The moderator can remove if he feels it's inappropriate to have it here but I stand by my convictions none the less.
There is a small room in the bowels of this high rise that only he has the solitary key to, and it's coded 'KKK'.
I tell ya there is some wickedly evil energy that flies around in here, and he projects it from behind a smiley face...that mask can't hide what we're seeing. His wife puts out just as much of that energy too. When she stares at you it's like some kind of snake trying to transfix you. I just think thoughts and try to project them at her like, 'I see you and you're powerless over me.'
Just about everybody who works here is beaten down and submissive, save for my wife and I....we need to and are working on getting out of here ASAP.
There are even souls that are trapped here and there are some places in the basement neither of us will go alone.
The entire grounds of these high rises emanates a completely negative vortex, and there have even been suicides as recently as a year ago that are suspicious to say the least.
Hope this has fed that Curiosity there Ted.

Got any pic of them?:D
If someone's screwing us, we have a right to know! Don't worry about whether it's appropriate or not, that will end up being double speak! That is fear, and the illuminati and all criminals use that as an excuse to protect themselves.

[father ted]

I have noticed that there are many of you who have seen some sort of reptilian or shapeshifting, and in light of that, I have started a new thread:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2827


Guys, if you have seen a reptilian or a shapeshifting, I would really appreciate it if you can somehow draw what you saw so everyone can see, and upload it. It might take you a while, but believe me, it'll be worth it. We can then also compare and study, and whathaveyou. Words can only describe so much. The more the better, the more we can sift through.

If you have a photo, that's even better:eek: :eek: :eek:

Thank you:)

[quelyn]

Yes, intelligent reptilian beings in their stories don't just get made up out of thin air. Think about it.
Absolutely, YES, I believe.

[joffausy]

Lets be honest here...Australians don't really have a culture. I've seen more culture in a tub of natural yogurt. I live in Australia and would have to say that so called Aussie culture is a watered down version of European and American culture. I know this because I have spent many years living in Britain and the United States. By reading your post it is clear that you have never traveled outside your own country. The best Aussies can come with is Big Bananas or Big Pineapples or beer and pie (which is hardly original). Everything else is imported.
I agree with you Australians dont have a culture so neither do english for that matter either however i digress.
My point is that there is huge amount mainstream scepticism in Au for such things whether city or regional areas people just dont wont to be believe in conspiracy theories except of cause if it means the X files or the most bland and typical stuff that doesnt come within cooee of discussing freemasons or the illuminati. Maybe this is because there are still many Masons in Australian society or least sympathisers I dont know.
I remember trying to claim the Illuminati pulling were the strings in TAFE class to my mainstream journalism tutor for Media last year(iam 32 male) and listen to the teacher scoff and humilate me in front of the class and class mates ( mostly in mid 20s) reactions were similar. Thats the kind of example of what i am talking about!.Now that was just a technical college if it was at an aussie university (i attend one right now) the reaction would five times as bad.

This is such a 1980's mentality. Maybe this the insular backwards Australia that is your experience. By the way there are plenty of Pauline Hanson supporters out there. What does that say about Australia?
While i dont think PHON would have been ideal for Australia there was no chance they where ever going to get anywhere as they where mere guinea pigs for the establishment.They werent radical NS types at all as the mainstream media tried to paint them but simply conservatives willing to use the democractic process.

I am not against Nationalism at all if you are against Nations being nations then i guess you can only be with neocon and neolib, Globalists which i personally oppose. So what is you wish to see happen for ONENESS for everything another fancy fad word for the One worlders or do wish to see some kind of change to the status quo.

Personally i d like to see more independent minds not thinking they have to live the typical nuclear or extended family lifestyle.I mean its amazing in my part of the world how after 25 if your not married or attached to some partner female or male whatever the way all the different groups and families treat you as a single person.Where I live getting hitched would almost certainly mean a mixed race marriage as there are hardly any Australian caucasian women left and if there are they are DIY feminists whom perfer non white males.

So I cant win as hetro white male if i am single everyone accuses me of being strange or unsocial if when i attempt find girls they are either caucasian girls that hate white males as media and education system keeps telling them, or can try some other racial girl whom i will probly have a hard time dating anyway due to the fact they for most part keep to their own kind. So my point race and multicultralism has alot to do with whats wrong with Australia in my view not too many bronzed anglo aussies left i am afraid unless of cause there skin is naturally brown or olive or maybe they just all caught a flight to London or Canada :confused:

[joffausy]

Patriotism is a trap friend. Don't talk for your fellow countryman, as they tend to have their own opinion
Patriotism is trap only when your living in the kind of society you despise i agree with that much, like present day Australia.If i was living in the kind of society i enjoyed or chose, Patriotism would be just fine by me!

Ah and you accused me of being unaustralian what the Hell IS AUSTRALIAN IN 2007 gees what a joke!!.
We are the tourist resort of the world hey eveyone come on down under and just plant yourself treat the place like brothel.

!:rolleyes:

[oneofmany]

Patriotism is trap only when your living in the kind of society you despise i agree with that much, like present day Australia.If i was living in the kind of society i enjoyed or chose, Patriotism would be just fine by me!

Ah and you accused me of being unaustralian what the Hell IS AUSTRALIAN IN 2007 gees what a joke!!.
We are the tourist resort of the world hey eveyone come on down under and just plant yourself treat the place like brothel.

!:rolleyes:Your the one that was Aussie this and Aussie that. i was just pointing the error of your ways. re read your posts to se what you sounded like and get back to me if you think I have a case to answer. and anytime, Patriotism is a trap. Period

[joffausy]

Your the one that was Aussie this and Aussie that. i was just pointing the error of your ways. re read your posts to se what you sounded like and get back to me if you think I have a case to answer. and anytime, Patriotism is a trap. Period
:cool: Well whether you like it or not you are patriotic without even realising it because if your middle class as most model citizens in our western world are then you must ofcause tow the line and play the game that means stuff like believing in the war on terror or stuff like:Are we ONE....the proofs in the shroom
there it is you said it!.:rolleyes:

When it comes to me i Will NEVER believe in such crap so theres the difference whos more patriotic i ask you or me, perhaps your just more patriotic to the US Global Empire rather than the old fashioned patriotic!.:rolleyes:

[oneofmany]

:cool: Well whether you like it or not you are patriotic without even realising it because if your middle class as most model citizens in our western world are then you must ofcause tow the line and play the game that means stuff like believing in the war on terror or stuff like: there it is you said it!.:rolleyes:

When it comes to me i Will NEVER believe in such crap so theres the difference whos more patriotic i ask you or me, perhaps your just more patriotic to the US Global Empire rather than the old fashioned patriotic!.:rolleyes:

You assume a lot about somebody don't you if your middle class as most model citizens in our western world are not me pal.

tow the line and play the game that means stuff like believing in the war on terror or stuff Do you know anything about human behaviour? your talking about the sheeple mate not the humans

I think you should speak for yourself mate, your trying dismally to put words and your thoughts into my mouth, which I'm absolutely choking on. I can see where you get your viewpoints from if your a journalism student. Your believing the rubbish their teaching you in those indoctrinated cesspools we call universities. If you want to join an organised crime syndicate that calls themselves the Media, go ahead, if your conscience can live with a career that lies to the people everyday on every issue? As for believing in the war on terror, yea it's happening, but not to the terrorists, but more like the populous at large, thus the word TERROR, not TERRORISM. It's a psychological mind fuck of the biggest order to bring in total state control through FEAR. Nothing more. I think you should toddle of to class now and play with your Dictaphone a bit, it seems to be what your good at :rolleyes: see i can use the sarcastic smiley too.

As for my signature, do you even know what i am talking about? I doubt it

[joffausy]

You assume a lot about somebody don't you
:cool: OK i apologise i should be more careful, Ah shouldnt we all!.

I can see where you get your viewpoints from if your a journalism student. Your believing the rubbish their teaching you in those indoctrinated cesspools we call universities. If you want to join an organised crime syndicate that calls themselves the Media, go ahead, if your conscience can live with a career that lies to the people everyday on every issue?
:rolleyes: Well now it seems you are the one whom is making presumptions however i suppose the ledger is even now!.
If you read my few posts thus far you will see that I am far from your average so called Uni student type, the hey MAN ONESS type like some of our utopian middle class dreamers on this forum!.
I mean a uni student at 32 think about it! Infact my status could change again shortly the recent rent rises in sydney hasnt helped my choices either!. I actually agree with much of what you are saying i can see that you are going thru a tough patch i can relate to that completely just read one my post above this one!.
And before you launch a tyriad about journalists you might wont remeber thats exactly the background many conspiracy theorists have including Icke and Alex jones although i know thats hard to envisage in Australia when you realise how fucking bland and boring most of our so called journalists are or should i say PR correspondents for duoopoly or monopoly media for most part that pull the their reports straight off reuters or aap.Add to that many of them studying for this occupation are now women that just like the career path because they think it makes them look sexy or glamorous in life.

I study to try and make an impact i will no longer bother when the tutors start playing games which many of these so called academics do ill make sure no further time of mine is wasted on such a so called enlightening pursuit its not like someone will have to show me door.(about as enlightening as Ronald Mcdonald) but you know some times you have to go along to get along in world thats all about conformity and banal standardisation. :cool:

[joffausy]

You seem to have changed your tune from here and here. I have as much right to inhabit this land as you do so enough of your racist jibes. As far as I am concerned white Anglo-saxon Australia is part of the problem and when this whole thing comes crashing down around your ears you probably won't be harping about what a proud little aussiemite you are!

TC :rolleyes: Hahah self loathing Anglo of the very anglo kind no wonder they call that Island in nor west of europe Londanistan, your pathetic really having such an attitude its not only defeatist attitude but a self loathing one!.

By the way i think of most these back packing or multinational employee POMS that come to this country, are Midlde class toffs are conceited wankers and think they own this country the moment they step off the plane i wish youd piss back to londanistan if you dont like the is country either i could cetainly do without your cosmopolitian style arrogance is little wonder your island is in the state its in!.
Its a real sign of how much this country as deteriorated when people that currently reside here can sit there and slag off the country that give them a home while probly adding nothing to except their greed and tribal divisions, who said it was only Muslims that did that.

Ive always thought most Middle or upper english are like mercenarys theyd execute and bury their parents in unmarked grave if they thought there was something lucrative in it thats the depth of your middle class when comes to pride or sentimentality.And who cares if some of us live in the nostalgia of the 1980s id much rather 1980s Australia( some of the happiest years of my life) to Australia now the client state tourist brothel of the world.

I guess ill remeber the day i go to the UK to treat to behave there they way most brits behave here!.Oh i agree with you that Australia has no culture at the present time, only because the floodgates where opened in the 1970/80s. Before that time although the culture may have been not to your liking this country did indeed have its own culture something alot more egalitarian than anything that has come from the US or europe!.:rolleyes:

[truthcommission]

I guess ill remeber the day i go to the UK to treat to behave there they way most brits behave here!
You do that joffer!

[loveforall]

no doubts.

[zircon]

Does anyone know about this idea?
What you do: you just shut your eyes and think of someone you love and charge yourself with infinite love if you know what I AM talking about. Take at least 3 deep breaths and filling your whole heart area with this LOVE and then on the last exhale imagine the energy going to the man/woman/reptilian you are aiming at and as you send the energy out say the word YAHWEH. Keep doing over and over and over.
If the man/woman is reptoid she/he will start to act very nervous, strange and clumsy, dropping things, etc almost like they are having a spasm. This means that they are having a real hard time maintaining their human form. And watch for the left eye becoming bigger, and extended out slightly from the skull, huge black circles under the eyes or the eyes rolling like in cartoons and of course, people wearing dark sunglasses inside the stores.

I took this from
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/lillysreport07aug04.shtml
Does anyone know of similar techniques?

[zircon]

I found this photo and took the left side and flipped it, then I did the same using the left side. One then sees two different people. One that is rather childish and one might say, inane, the other that is controlled and single-minded. If there is anyone with more understanding then I have of the right- and left- side processes, could they comment please?
Thanks

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/young_t_b1-1.jpghttp://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/young_t_b_left.jpghttp://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/young_t_b_right.jpg

[zircon]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/Blcomp.jpg
Scary stuff!!

[smariot]

Patriotism is a trap friend. Don't talk for your fellow countryman, as they tend to have their own opinion. If you don't agree with the subject at hand, just say so, but only on your behalf, because a lot of Australians that have been exposed to this information, have come to see some validity in what is being said here. If you don't believe me, check out this Australian pioneer in the field of cryptozoology, Rex Gilroy here. (http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com)

If you don't see anything of relevance, then simply ignore it, don't rubbish it, that's not Australian, as your so proud of calling yourself. Me personally, I'm Human

Calling your self human is still limiting. While patriotism seperates you from the rest of humanity, calling yourself human seperates you from the rest of the life on and off our planet.

It's strangely appropriate that the reptillians have enslaved us. We would be hypocrites to ask that they didn't, considering how well it reflects the way we use our fellow earthlings. I wonder if they aren't just our own reflections, and we were enslaving ourselves all along.

[zircon]

I've done a little more research and it seems there is no clear consensus about the left and right side processes. The view that the left is all logic and the right is more global is generally accepted in the public domain, however. It's the indea of rational vs intuitive and linear vs random, rules vs creativity, and words vs images. Two personalities in one head, Yin and Yang, hero and villain. But according the rense website, "To most neuroscientists, of course, these notions are seen as simplistic at best and nonsense at worst." According to them, it's more question of the detailed approach versus the broad one, the logical and the spatial. To put this to the test, and because I have always felt that the face reveals the spirit and hides it too, and because I believe that when there is a force there needs to be an opposite one, I have put together some composite pictures. In these we see that the right-hand side of the face appears (in the more mature individual or one who has come under control of powerful forces) to present the mild or harmless exteriorisiation of a public persona that can be used to present in a "solar" way (I take this from the ideas of hatha yoga (ha - sun and tha - moon) and the left side of the face presents the "lunar" and more hidden forces. I am - with M.Tsarion - of the opinion that the moon is in fact a part of a force-field of control (see my other posts) that imprsions us. Thus this side of the face will show the extent of that control. In some pictures you will see this clearly. The so-called "retilian" forces are none other than the break-through of this energy (which is concealed from us by the balancing effect of the assymetry of the face, so that we don't see it in the "normal" view. The right side will show what the individual portrays to the world, and thus in an early picture of david Icke (when he was on th threshold of the breakthrough he had made, it is the right side that shows these powerful forces. Later, the balance is restored as he comes to understand and resist it as his knowledge deepens) I include a picture of M.Tsarion and of a balanced person (I hope, myself) as a contrast to the varying degrees of unbalance that are apparent in other pictures. Up to us to work out why this can then be seen so clearly, in the mirror-image face in some people. http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/dicacomp2.jpghttp://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/comp.jpg

[father ted]

zircon, I can't see the pics, can anyone, or is it just me?

[zircon]

I uploaded them as URLs and they are there when I go on...

[gremlin]

still not sure about this reptile thing, i need tangible proof.

[zircon]

So here they are sorry about thathttp://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/comp.jpghttp://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/ipz_bucket/dicacomp2.jpg
As I said you can draw into this what you may. Also it is more apparent on some photos than on others.

[zircon]

Also can I recommend taking a blown-up view to see the images clearly and to read again the comments written in the earlier posts?

[zircon]

still not sure about this reptile thing, i need tangible proof.

Gremlin, just for the sake of clarity, what kind of "proof" are you looking for, and, when you say "tangible", what do you mean?

Cheers

[james777]

Maybe, maybe not, but either way if they walk through my door they'll get 2 shots through the head just like any other mother fuckin' intruder..........
Fuck reptillians, they can kiss my ass!!! I'm on God's side, so if they wanna test then let's go to work, but the creator is on my side........

[aznality]

^You cannot believe in God and Reps at the same time. Or at least not the Christian version of God.

[earthseed]

still not sure about this reptile thing, i need tangible proof.

Well there are many insiders that David has talked to that have seen them and interacted with them. They are all over our ancient and current art. Now when the day comes that we all get proof...that is a day I wouldn't want.

[father ted]

I suggest they take a peek into Stewart Swerdlow's work, you can ask him questions about reptiles if you want:
http://www.expansions.com/QA_Comments.cfm

Here's interviews:

http://theedgeam.com/interviews/audiofiles1.php?path=&sort=name&order=asc&start=270 (check out others on ther like Duncan O'finioan)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk_1.htm

http://www.tazzandpaulashow.com/archived_interviews.php

http://www.lvitv.com/OutThereTV/playflash.php?v_id=255&state=flash

[eternal_spirit]

^You cannot believe in God and Reps at the same time. Or at least not the Christian version of God.

LOl Christianity doesn't tell you not to believe in reps. Doesn't matter what Religion you are, you can choose to believe in reps or not. I'm agnostic and the same goes for reps. Never seen one except whilst tripping which kind of doesn't count.

[father ted]

Never seen one except whilst tripping which kind of doesn't count.

Fuckn oath it does!

[eternal_spirit]

Fuckn oath it does!

lol looked more like kids cartoon character. Or the ones off the Beatles yellow Submarine (cartoon)

[raypsi]

Well there are many insiders that David has talked to that have seen them and interacted with them. They are all over our ancient and current art. Now when the day comes that we all get proof...that is a day I wouldn't want.


Well I guess you will be one of the elite few chosen advance guard that
gets a micro chip in your head so you won't see them. Everybody else sure will.

[space lizard]

I left school aged 16 and pretended to go to school for 2 years whilst sneaking of to the public library every day and reading lots of books.

Everything they were teaching me in school at the time seemed somehow useless information. I kept asking teachers how is what your teaching me going to be usefull in real life. Nobody check up when I disappeared from school I simly told my friends to tell the teachers I had a job.

The things I have learned in the last 2 weeks (since discovering Davids books), have linked all the things I've been reading about for years.

I now know, The earth is hollow. Reptilian creatures with no regard for human life are attempting to destroy the lifes of everyone on the planet. Flying saucers exist - (Nazi Foo Fighters), and a whole bunch of stuff I would have laughed at a month ago.

Also I already knew that "Little Richard is the greatest Rock and Roller of All Time!" - Not that anyone told me.

[aznality]

LOl Christianity doesn't tell you not to believe in reps. Doesn't matter what Religion you are, you can choose to believe in reps or not. I'm agnostic and the same goes for reps. Never seen one except whilst tripping which kind of doesn't count.

But Christianity does define for their followers what is and isn't true.

[celtic isis]

Its undeniable really, if you believe in Darwinism Theory, you probarbly will say there are no such things as reptoids.

Me ?? I don't buy Darwinism, its SHITE in the textbooks they teach our kids ...FFS.

There are reptilians, and they have been here longer than humans.

There is no missing fuckin link either, only preconceptions. to fit a fuckin theory/

A theory is just that..a theory..until it is Law..

And on the missing link there is only intervention.

That's my angle.

Phoenix

i'm with phoenix on this one :)

there are too many 'ordinary' people with stories and experiences too for all of them to be either nuts or making it up. Why make it up, what do you gain only ridicule like?

Brilliant analogy on Darwinism there! no missing link, only preconceptions..brilliant! I'll have to use that next time i'm having an arguement on this subject phoenix! :)

[celtic isis]

I certainly do. It makes perfect sense and leaves no real holes when using
your common sense about it, like many have you have said already, there's
a lot of historical proof and evidence. I'm totally convinced.

There's a reason why the Illuminati preform these rituals. Unlike some like
to think (like Alex Jones) that they're just doing it for kicks, like at Bohemian Grove.
There's a reason why they take their symbology so literally. There's a reason to
all of it, and it's all real. That's just not my opinion, it's real. It's all real!
Many don't realize how real this really is.

yay! best post ever!

"Many don't realise how real this really is!" :D kool cycle of eternity :)

[cheesedanish]

Reptillian Agenda Dvd with Credo Mutwa speaks about 'chitahuri' seen walking this earth long ago? i saw the dvd a long time ago and dont remember details.

[celtic isis]

Reptillian Agenda Dvd with Credo Mutwa speaks about 'chitahuri' seen walking this earth long ago? i saw the dvd a long time ago and dont remember details.

yep cheesedanish, credo mutwa knows his stuff.

brilliant quote from manic street preachers there too :) i love that song.

[friendsinthesky]

Reptillian Agenda Dvd with Credo Mutwa speaks about 'chitahuri' seen walking this earth long ago? i saw the dvd a long time ago and dont remember details.

No offence BUT I've seen that dvd and I pissed myself laughing. Credo sure does like to play with his doll's eh?

P.S Why is Credo so fat? anyone...:confused:

[aznality]

^You from melb too ey.

What has weight issues got anything to do with it anyway?

[friendsinthesky]

^You from melb too ey.

What has weight issues got anything to do with it anyway?

Yep, bayside of Melb.

True spiritual enlightened humble beings are not fat. Is Credo a humble spiritual enlightened being? I'm not suggesting he is, I'm only asking.

[ngawaka19]

Reptillian Agenda Dvd with Credo Mutwa speaks about 'chitahuri' seen walking this earth long ago? i saw the dvd a long time ago and dont remember details.


I've just been watching it. Yep its for real, took me along time and alot of research to get to a point where I excepted it. I've experience seeing a UFO recently so has my partner. Also my dad in 1968 he was hunting in the wops in NZ. So if those are real, why would'nt reps be. No human would do what 'bush' does and be able to sleep at night.

[celtic isis]

No offence BUT I've seen that dvd and I pissed myself laughing. Credo sure does like to play with his doll's eh?

P.S Why is Credo so fat? anyone...:confused:

haha! :D no idea lol

[celtic isis]

Yep, bayside of Melb.

True spiritual enlightened humble beings are not fat. Is Credo a humble spiritual enlightened being? I'm not suggesting he is, I'm only asking.

true..to be a truly spiritual enlightened being you have to live off..well air basically lol

everything else except from like a liquid diet messes up your vibrations :D

[celtic isis]

hey father ted and all who've posted...

just wondering guys have any of you noticed that the people who are most likely 'scaly in nature' lol they all have more of less the same facial features?

I'll have to find some pics to illustrate i know lol but...well, i know it's probably cause of inter breeding/marrying between royalty etc i just find it stange...they all look sort of "pointy", like pointy nose, long face, same kind of devilish smile...my OH says it's cause a lot fo them are old lol so they all look like old men...what do you guys think? :confused:

[father ted]

I've noticed that, although there are a few different categories of looks, but genneraly, they all look the same. A lot of the old ones have those spots, like a splash of brown paint on their temple. Ask Stewart Swerdlow about that, someone in his q and a mentioned it but he didn't go into it. I've been asking him a few questions lately and I don't want to anoy him.

Prince phillip and bush senior look a lot like for one.

[celtic isis]

I've noticed that, although there are a few different categories of looks, but genneraly, they all look the same. A lot of the old ones have those spots, like a splash of brown paint on their temple. Ask Stewart Swerdlow about that, someone in his q and a mentioned it but he didn't go into it. I've been asking him a few questions lately and I don't want to anoy him.

Prince phillip and bush senior look a lot like for one.

you're right father ted, and yep there are different categories of the same type of looks...it can't be just a coincidence can it? Or that we're seeing things. I guess it's the inbreeding lol

And well, the inbreeding could mean that they are reps too lol plus those pointy features, they could easily shape shift lol into a reptilian appearance lol

kool stewart swerdlow, you can ask him stuff? lol

i never hear about stewart swerdlow only through icke and on here, strange isn't it ;) no where on mainstream of course. They just keep icke looking like the nutter, when icke just says stuff other people are reasearching too.

[majicdragon]

They can be seen in the peripheral; don't look directly at them. It's scary.

Seen one for sure. He was schizophrenic. He somehow made me feel bad about looking at him, as if I was the one who was breaking the rules. He did this from the mind to the mind while he spoke of other things. After then, I made it a point to be polite, and to look at him directly.

He did some magic in my life. I told him where I wanted to work and he got me in there. Really a nice person past all the craziness.

[father ted]

That's cool, do you still know him?