Zionist banksters links to Hitler and Trotsky

[warrior]

I am sure most people who will read this forum will already be aware that the banskters funded Trotsky's rise, they had intended him to lead the new communist russia, but when he became ill Stalin was able to take a grip of power and steer russia away from the NWO or banskters control. Hitler was then in turn funded by the same banksters partly to remove Stalin from power and partly to cause the holocaust which would then give the zionists the international support they needed to setup the state of Israel. I am asking those on this site to contribute some links to this thread that covers these subjects on various other webpages.

http://www.savethemales.ca/000275.html

http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-hitler.html

[warrior]

I am surprised there aren't a few replies to this thread. I would have imagined readers of this site would have quite alot of information regarding the financiers of Hitler, and the financiers of the russian revolution, mostly western bankers with connections to the zionists.

[albie]

A lot of people financed Germany and Russia during those periods. The fact that some of them were Jews is not much of a link for me.

The Rothschilds lent money to just about all of Europe between the two world wars. There's no real evidence that they were paying Hitler to start a war to favor zionism.

The closest you can come is the Sidney Warburg hoax.

http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-ch10.html

Who Was "Sidney Warburg"?

The question posed in this chapter is the accusation that some Wall Street financiers (the Rockefellers and Warburgs specifically have been accused) directly planned and financed Hitler's takeover in 1933, and that they did this from Wall Street. On this question the so-called myth of "Sidney Warburg" is relevant. Prominent Nazi Franz von Papen has stated in his Memoirs:3

... the most documented account of the National Socialists' sudden acquisition of funds was contained in a book published in Holland in 1933, by the old established Amsterdam publishing house of Van Holkema & Warendorf, called De Geldbronnen van Het Nationaal-Socialisme (Drie Gesprekken Met Hitler) under the name "Sidney Warburg."

A book with this title in Dutch by "Sidney Warburg" was indeed published in 1933, but remained on the book stalls in Holland only for a matter of days. The book was purged.4 One of three surviving original copies was translated into English. The translation was at one time deposited in the British Museum, but is now withdrawn from public circulation and is unavailable for research. Nothing is now known of the original Dutch copy upon which this English translation was based.

[albie]

A couple of Rothschilds were put in concentration camps I recall.

Not a nice way to treat the bloodline.

[warrior]

Who Was "Sidney Warburg"?

Sidney Warburg??? Don't you mean Max Warburg, the German Bankster who gave Hitler $34million, I would imagine you can find Max Warburg on wikipedia. I don't have time to go through your link right now, I will read up on it later when I have time, thanks for the reply.

[albie]

Nope, I mean Sydney Warburg. A made up name. Wrote a book attempting to draw a link between Hitler and Warburgs and possibly Rothschilds.

[warrior]

you are right, there was a Sidney Warburg mentioned. It is many years since I read on this subject and I am trying to find what is out there on the internet. In my recollection of it there was a James Warburg and a Max Warburg, and the Warburgs had strong connections with the Rothschilds. I will look into it more again.

[edro9494]

beware of henry makow, he shifts blame from zionist jews onto the "satanic cult" that runs the world.

perhaps someone should ask what his geneology is, he will test positive for tay-sachs(sic)

[edro9494]

remember Hitler was a Jewish Zionist Rothschild agent and, just as was most of his cabinet, the first option for the German Jews was what? death camps? no, sir-ee. PALESTINE. THAT IS FUNDAMENTAL ZIONISM 101.

and of course jewish leaders from all nations conveniently didnt accept their brethren into their country.

How funny, these AshkeNAZI Jews were indeed Nazis. hmm, wonder where that word came from?

Just think how blatant of a sham Nazi Germany was. You had a group of Zionists, headed by the biggest anti-semite in history who just SOMEHOW turns out to be a JEW, nonetheless a ROTHSCHILD DESCENDANT.

[albie]

There's no evidence at all that Hitler ws related to Rothschilds. Icke lied. Or was just lazy on the research.

Or just doesn't think you'll check his work.

This connection to Jews and Hitler is so wobbly.

Sure he had some jews working as head soldiers.

They were half jews, who didn't even consider themselves as jews.

The Rothschilds lent money to all of europe. Not just Germany.

[albie]

And AshkeNAZI?

Pu-lease.:)

[edro9494]

you need to read Ron Rosenbaum, a skull and bones Jew, book on Hitler.

anyone who has done serious research on Hitler knows of his grandmothers incident with the Rothschild.

[edro9494]

Denial is not just a river

[albie]

you need to read Ron Rosenbaum, a skull and bones Jew, book on Hitler.

anyone who has done serious research on Hitler knows of his grandmothers incident with the Rothschild.

Rubbish. And don't get cocky with me. Or I'll throw you in the nile.

Surely you can find some evidence on the web about this, because I can't.

[albie]

No explicit eyewitness or documentary evidence has survived to support this dark view of Maria. The rumored paternity correspondence that would document the story of a liaison between Maria and a wealthy Jew she served, the "Jew from Graz" cited by Hitler's personal attorney Hans Frank in his Nuremberg memoir, has never surfaced. There is no testimony from Maria's contemporaries to indict her, to indicate she was anything other than a simple good-hearted peasant woman, even a courageous single mother who defied poverty and advancing age to bear a child without benefit of clergy or paternal support at an age, forty-two, when other peasant women might have resigned themselves to declining years of childless drudgery.


http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/r/rosenbaum-hitler.html

[albie]

http://www.holocaust-history.org/questions/hitler-jewish.shtml

There are some rumors hinting that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Few, if any, of the reputable historians on the Holocaust believe that this is so. It is more likely that Hitler tried to keep the murky history of his family quite secret because there was a high incidence of insanity and feeble-mindedness in his ancestors.

Rumors die hard, though.

One of Hitler's henchmen, Hans Frank, declared during the Nuremberg Trials in 1945-46, that Hitler's grandmother had worked in the town of Graz as a servant in the home of a Jewish family named Frankenberger. He further claimed that she was seduced by the head of the household and that Hitler's grandfather was the result of that liaison.

A subsequent analysis of Frank's statement by Simon Wiesenthal disclosed that there was no evidence of any Jewish family named Frankenberger ever living in Graz. What is more, Jews had been driven out of Graz in the 15th century and had not been allowed to return until 1856, nearly twenty years after Hitler's grandfather had been born.

Hitler's grandmother's maiden name was Schickelgruber. There is considerable evidence that this family produced abnormal progeny. Examples are: one of Hitler's relatives through his mother's side committed suicide in 1920, another, Aloisha had been placed in an insane asylum, another was "feeble-minded," and yet another was retarded.

According to the article from which I am quoting this material:


"Hitler's real fear, then, was not that someone would discover that he has a Jewish grandfather, but that it would someday come to light that he carried a hereditary disposition toward mental illness and retardation."
You might ask your English teacher to go to a good library and see the following article:


"Hitler's Family Secret: A file recovered from the Nazi Archives tells of a Gestapo investigation into the Fuehrer's murky family history."
By: Ben S. Swearingen
Civilization: The Magazine of the Library of Congress Volume 2, Number 2, Arcg/April 1995, pp. 54-55
Harry W. Mazal OBE

[warrior]

Have any of you read any of Lenni Brenners work, you can probably find some of it documented on the internet. he details that Hitler was funded by zionists, they had 2 goals for him, to help create the state of Israel being one of the goals. Some of you are probably aware of his work

[albie]

Jews funded all of Europe. LOANS. They leant money.

They were bankers.

[albie]

Have any of you read any of Lenni Brenners work, you can probably find some of it documented on the internet. he details that Hitler was funded by zionists, they had 2 goals for him, to help create the state of Israel being one of the goals. Some of you are probably aware of his work

And whatever doubts I may still have nourished were finally dispelled by the attitude of a portion of the Jews themselves. Among them there was a great movement, quite extensive in Vienna, which came out sharply in confirmation of the national character of the Jews: this was the Zionists.

It looked, to be sure, as though only a part of the Jews approved this viewpoint, while the majority condemned and inwardly rejected such a formulation. But... the so-called liberal Jews did not reject the Zionists as non-Jews, but only as Jews with an impractical, perhaps even dangerous, way of publicly avowing their Jewishness. [2]

There is no better proof of Zionism’s classic role as an outrider to anti-Semitism than Hitler’s own statement.

Yep. Brenner shows that Hitler hated jews. That is why he killed them. And that he wasn't paid by them or hired by them to assist zionism.

http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch07.htm

[albie]

However, for decades “Kikes to Palestine!” had been the slogan of European anti-Semitism, and the Nazi propagandists used it in their own agitation. In June 1932 the centrepiece for one of their largest anti-Jewish rallies, in Silesian Breslaw, was a huge banner telling the Jews to “get ready for Palestine!” [8] During the anti-Jewish boycott on 1 April 1933, pickets at the department stores handed out an imitation “one-way ticket to Palestine” to Jewish-looking passers-by.

The idea of sending Jews back to Palestine had been around for years. Not to encourage Zionism, but as an insult.

[edro9494]

you are somewhat of an enigma, albie

you do damage control for zionism/israel/jewishbloodlines and deny it constantly.

yet most conspiracy figures will admit more than you can handle about zionism and this "illuminati conspiracy of the ages"

so theres one of two possibilities: either you are assigned to do damage control or you are unaware of the historical figures in this "illuminati" conspiracy.

im curious to get your view of this issue and your perspective, if a conspiracy exists, on what exactly it is and how it operates.

please do explain.

[albie]

You see a set of events and you turn it into a conspiracy. I just wonder why.

The evidence (which I do look at) is almost non-existent.

Damage control? or simply wondering if you have it wrong?

If you have any evidence that will turn my head, fine. Let's see it.

Because when I ask for it I never seem to actually get it.

Icke uses a lot of supposition. If you take that away....what is left?

Surely that should be your aim: to push aside the stuff that is theory and find the solid article.

Otherwise this is just a game. No one will be convinced.

[albie]

Would an Illuminati shill ask for the core truths behind these conspiracies or would he ADD to them unprovable notions to make the theory easily debunked?

All I ask is for is the truth so I don't look a fool when I tell people about it.

[albie]

Why would the Illuminati care about establishing Israel? it makes no sense. Did they just want to cause trouble so they could start a war and bring in the police state?

Why use Israel? Why bring scrutiny on jews by doing this? If they are jews themselves?

They could easily have done it other ways.

Are the Illuminati bloodline even jews? According to the Akkadian tablets which Sitchen cites, there was no mention of breeding with the earthlings? merely of tampering with them to evolve them.

Icke gets this notion of breeding from nowhere. Or from one ambiguous line in genesis.

Even if the Anunnaki DID breed with earthlings...they weren't Jews. They were Persians. Hence the mysterious rise of those Middle eastern empires.

How did this become a Jewish thing? Surely you should be looking to arabs for the Illuminati.

Did they breed with the jews? Ok, Jews came from Egypt. Slaves of them wackos. Must have been a bit of rape going on. Egyptians were part of the fluxing of the Illuminati empire, yes?

Did that bloodline pass into the Jews then?

But according to the Akkadan tablets they created man. So we all came from those experiments in dna tomfoolery.

But we all stem from Ethiopia according to the top geneticist.

So the idea of us coming from Persia seems unlikely.

The notion of a bloodline doesn't make sense. It doesn't seem likely. We are all related to each other. We are all bloodline.

Unless of course it's just one gene that puts you in the Illuminati camp. But how could you ensure that one gene would be passed on for so long? The queen would have to had loads of babies to ensure that.

Charles only had two kids. Neither of them have his big ears.:D