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koragg245
03-02-2013, 09:46 AM
I've read about annunaki, and everyone has something different to say. Some say that annunaki are Nordics, and that they created us to be their slaves, and some say that they are our friends and that grey's and reptilians are our true enemies that formed alliance with Illuminati.

It would be great if someone wiser explained this to me.

ufochick
03-02-2013, 09:53 AM
The more you experience/read/learn about the entire alien agenda the more you realize NO one KNOWS.

There is much proof that there is a sentient non-human groups of Beings that humans are encountering all over the world. But as to race, name, agenda and all the questions, no one knows.

Reptilians and greys are the most frequently encountered. Where they are from and their intent is still unknown.

falconeyes
03-02-2013, 10:12 AM
I've read about annunaki, and everyone has something different to say. Some say that annunaki are Nordics, and that they created us to be their slaves, and some say that they are our friends and that grey's and reptilians are our true enemies that formed alliance with Illuminati.

It would be great if someone wiser explained this to me.

Hello 'koragg245' :) You have to trust for example Pleiadian human looking aliens and Andromedans. According to Peggy Kane, "Pleiadian contactee" Colleen Thomas, "Andromedan contactees" called 'Tolec' and Alex Collier, and former Supersoldier Michael Prince there is a war between Pleiadians and the alliance of bad Greys and bad Draconian Reptilians these years. However, according to Alex Collier, the war against the "The Powers that be" / NWO / Illuminati is not over yet.
"Pleiadian contactee" Colleen Thomas - Reptilians fire missile against a Pleiadian spaceship
*Message from Alaje*
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantida_mu/esp_lemuria_8.htm When the transformation was complete and the later sector was safe, the first sector imploded the fusion reactors, destroying 98% of the Dinoid/Reptoid civilizations, the survivors evacuated to the planet in our solar system, Maldek. Now with the Dinoid/Reptoid no longer present on Earth, the Earth Spiritual Hierarchies and the cataceans had to find a suitable guardian for the land. They searched the galaxy for 2 to 3 million years before finding what they were looking for . They found, on the fourth planet of the Vega system , a primitive aquatic species that was starting to emerge from the oceans. This species had creation myths, a language, and a hunting and gathering culture.

The Spiritual Hierarchies of the Vega system were then asked if they would permit this species to be vastly altered genetically to accelerate their evolution so that they may become a guardian species. The Vega Spiritual Hierarchies agreed. So, the traces of the first humans came from the Vega Star System. Their technology improved very quickly, and once they had developed star travel technology they started to migrate into nearby star systems for a period of 2.5 million years.

During this time the Galatic Federation was formed, Sirius B was colonized and Earth was selected for seeding. Later Mars and Venus were colonized and the Hybornea colony was founded on Earth. Dinoid/Reptoids in the meantime had built up there forces and were invading the various colonies throughout the solar system. Hyborean Earth, Mars and Venus were victim to these attacks and the Dinoids and Reptoids gained control over the solar system for a period of approximately 80,000 years.

In response to this the Galactic Federation planned a counterattack to reintroduce humans into this system. They arranged for a battle planet (4 times the diameter of the Earth) to come into the solar system and destroy the planet Maldek - which was the Dinoid/Reptoid stronghold. The remains of the planet Maldek are what we can now see as the asteroid belt. After the destruction of Maldek and the defeat of the Dinoid/Reptoids a human colony was again established on Earth. It is what we know today as Lemuria. Over the next 850,000 years the Lemurians spread across the face of the planet. They founded daughter colonies such as Atlantis, Yu which is now Central China and Tibet and the Libyan/Egytian colonies.

Your origins are not of this world, but are extraterrestrial in nature, and are to be found on a planet that circles the star Vega in the Lyra constellation. Yet, you have achieved more than to travel a mere 26 Light Years to reach your present home. Many millions of years ago, you became part of a vast rebellion by the Light against the dark in this galaxy. The uprising began in Lyra, Cancer, Gemini and Orion, as well as in many other lesser-known star groupings ('constellations'). Eventually, this rebellion led to the formation of the Galactic Federation of Light, over 4 million years ago. At the very core of this battle were the Star League of the Pleiades, the Andromedan Confederation, the Lyra Light League and the Sirian star-nation. Of these, Sirius is most sacred and the place where the Great Blue Lodge of Creation has chosen to enter this galaxy. Originally, it was defended by a Lion people who decided to settle only on two planets in the Sirius A star system. Later, with their permission, Humans from Lyra were first to colonize Sirius B and, in time, Sirius C and D.
http://home.tiscali.nl/gibbon/ssoa/maldek.htm The destruction of Maldek was premeditated. This is what the current genetic records have shown as they have been released. What we mean by this is that Maldek was destroyed by another conscious race of beings, who just so happen to be Pleiadian. One may wonder why the Pleiadians would wish to destroy a utopia type solar system?

Well, the Pleiadian karma goes back much further than Maldek. The Pleiadian scientists attempted at an earlier time period to create a new solar system of their own. The experiment backfired and actually destroyed parts of their own related star system. As the elements were lost to sustain life, the Pleiadians sought the missing elements from other solar systems. In total, the karmic records recently recovered from Maldek show that seventeen solar systems all told were raided, one of which was your solar system.

During the raiding of your solar system, the Pleiadians appear to have removed the second sun from your solar system, and then raided it for elements until it cooled and became a third-dimensional vessel now present within their own star system. This loss of a second sun dropped the vibration significantly within your entire solar system. Furthermore, the Pleiadians wished to raid Mars of all of her minerals to replace those minerals that had been lost in their failed experiment. Those incarnate upon Maldek objected, and a war broke out. The Pleiades won, and Maldek was shattered by spacecraft thus becoming your asteroid belt.

The shattered souls from Maldek ended up scattered over every planet within your solar system including Earth. Seventy-five per cent of the personality entities that are currently channeled by your human form are comprised of shattered souls from Maldek. The other 25 per cent appear to come from the failed experiment in the Pleiades. As one transits the initiations and releases the personality, such entities can also be healed and return to the state of wholeness as the karma from Maldek or the Pleiades is also released.

Many may wonder why this karma has not been spoken of before. This is simply because the karma had been erased from all libraries within your creation, including your solar system. Karma, however, is holographic and therefore contained within the genetics of all living things. It has been through the ascension of the human species, including our channels, along with Earth, that this karma has been pieced together to be reviewed and then released. All karma insures that a particular experience will occur again. If Earth and humanity did not release every last destructive piece of karma, it would ensure that both would be destroyed rather than ascend.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_adn08.htm Scientists confirm extraterrestrial genes in human DNA

Collaborative research from a gathering of exo-scientists postulate that there are genes from over 20 extraterrestrials civilizations in Human DNA
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_U2.htm This second group of extraterrestrials is primarily ‘human’ and can easily integrate with human society in the manner described by Dean and others where they can be indistinguishable from the rest of humanity. [53] These races are described to be from star systems such as Lyra, Pleiades, Sirius, Procyon, Tau Ceti, Ummo, Andromeda and Arcturus who have provided some of the genetic material for the seeding of humanity on Earth. [54] According to Alex Collier, a total of 22 extraterrestrial races have provided genetic material for the ‘human experiment’.

These include Reptilian, Gray and Anunnaki races described earlier as well as those races in this second group which Collier describes as ‘benevolent’:

That we, as a product of extraterrestrial genetic manipulation, are possessors of a vast gene pool consisting of many different racial memory banks, also consisting of at least 22 different races. Because of our genetic heritage, and because we are spirit, the benevolent extraterrestrial races actually view us as being royalty.

koragg245
03-02-2013, 10:46 AM
Hello 'koragg245' :) You have to trust for example Pleiadian human looking aliens and Andromedans. According to Peggy Kane, "Pleiadian contactee" Colleen Thomas, "Andromedan contactees" called 'Tolec' and Alex Collier, and former Supersoldier Michael Prince there is a war between Pleiadians and the alliance of bad Greys and bad Draconian Reptilians these years. However, according to Alex Collier, the war against the "The Powers that be" / NWO / Illuminati is not over yet.
"Pleiadian contactee" Colleen Thomas - Reptilians fire missile against a Pleiadian spaceship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka5Pv93aXcE)
*Message from Alaje* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH4wyKztrTw)

Good point my friend, but the "evil alliance" is far more advanced, so we don't know is this is a deception yet, because reptilians are skilled shape-shifters. Is there any way to contact Pleiadian's?

falconeyes
03-02-2013, 10:58 AM
Reptilians and greys are the most frequently encountered. Where they are from and their intent is still unknown.

Draconian Reptilians allegedly originate from Alpha Draconis star system. Renegade Greys that are allegedly created as "clones" / "biological robots" by Draconian Reptilians works as slaves to serve Draconian Reptilians, these kind of Greys are reportedly removed from Zeta Reticuli and moved to the Orion constellation, and it's that kind of Greys that reportedly abduct thousands of Earth-humans. Alien implants concluded to be of Extraterrestrial origin by some of the best experts According to Alex Collier, there are only few thousands of the original Zeta Reticuli Greys left.

altermalice
03-02-2013, 11:06 AM
brainzzz brainzzz we want your brainzzz puny human mmmm

falconeyes
03-02-2013, 11:10 AM
Good point my friend, but the "evil alliance" is far more advanced, so we don't know is this is a deception yet, because reptilians are skilled shape-shifters.
Obviously the "evil alliance" is not more advanced than the Pleiadians, otherwise if the "evil alliance" really were more advanced, the Pleiadians would have lost the war, but the Pleiadians are obviously not losing the war, the Pleiadians are obviously about to win the war soon, it seems. According to Andromedan contactee 'Tolec' the bad Reptilian / Grey alliance is about to lose the war against the Pleiadians soon, http://www.examiner.com/article/et-council-war-with-grey-draco-reptilian-ets-is-won-no-false-flag-et-invasion Andromeda Council representative Tolec states, “a war in space, in many cases happening just outside of 'Earth space’ over the course of approximately nine (9) years of Earth time, is as of this third quarter of 2011 in the final cleanup phase. This war is finally over. Done. Finished. As Tolec for the Andromeda Council, I can tell you my colleagues had a long, hard, difficult war. I will add, this war is being won by ‘the good guys’… by the combined forces of the member star systems & planets of the Andromeda Council, those with Earth and Earth humans best interests in their hearts, minds & souls.

"Though some physical implants have been found and removed by Earth physicians, at Earth’s current stage of evolution & technology it does not yet have the means to detect, measure or eliminate the Greys' use of etheric implants.

"Now, in the final cleanup phase of this war, and beyond, for Earth's freedom, the Andromeda Council medical team is working tirelessly, and will continue to do so, to clean up the mess, the implants, the resulting spiritual, psychological & emotional impact & damage, and multiple problems the Greys have created as they have unlawfully sought to enslave an unaware human population on this planet.

Regarding the possibility of a future false flag ET attack, Tolec indicated, "The Andromeda Council (AC) is very aware of the - much higher than average - number of UFO 'sightings' over this relatively small area of land, Washington D.C., known as the seat of our nation's government.

"The AC first showed me a grid, a network of underground tunnels, spreading out from Washington D.C. upward toward the hills... where the remaining greys & reptilians are still roaming around attempting to cause trouble. The greys are currently positioning themselves at strategic underground tunnel locations at various points underneath the city - preparing for a coordinated 'false flag', fake attack event. The AC intelligence people are keenly aware of these activities.

"However, the greys & reptilians, are 'fighting for their lives', they know the game for control & power is slipping away, and is almost 'up'. they know the war is over. they know they have lost. they are 'playing their last hand'.


Is there any way to contact Pleiadian's?

Like i said to 'ta anderson' here http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234071&page=5 'ta anderson' have to relax, sit down and close his eyes and concentrate, take deep breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out, and then make a telepathic connection to the Pleiadian star people.

So far so good, the best way i can tell you how to try to make contact to the Pleiadian star people is: Sit down, relax, close your eyes, clear your mind, concentrate, take deep breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out, and then make a telepathic connection to the Pleiadian star people, and 'tell' them about yourself and about your life on Earth.

edelweiss pirate
03-02-2013, 11:15 AM
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_adn08.htm

That is NOT a reputable website.

It is full of proven hoaxes which they claim as real.

It's possibly a CIA operation.

Any Anonymous out there? Could you do a little job on this bibliotecapleyades and see who is behind it?

It seems to be the source of all the easily disproved disinfo which gets posted here.



BREAKING NEWS!



This link appears to confirm information regarding Ralph Amigron, aka Ralph Amagran, aka "Alex Collier" and his having served time in federal prison. There is even more to the story, and charges against him of drugging and rape are still under investigation.

The "UFO researchers" who have stood behind and promoted this fraud, con man and criminal, namely Michael Salla and Paola Harris, apparently didn't do their homework. Instead they blindly - and ambitiously - promoted him and his outrageous, unsubstantiated, completely idiotic claims of being a "genuine, lifelong Andromedan contactee". Such is the pathetic level of investigative skills - and integrity - in "exopolitics".

koragg245
03-02-2013, 11:42 AM
Thanks my friend, but obviously the "evil alliance" is not more advanced than the Pleiadians, otherwise if the "evil alliance" really were more advanced, the Pleiadians would have lost the war, but the Pleiadians are obviously not losing the war, the Pleiadians are obviously about to win the war soon, it seems. According to Andromedan contactee 'Tolec' the bad Reptilian / Grey alliance is about to lose the war against the Pleiadians soon, http://www.examiner.com/article/et-council-war-with-grey-draco-reptilian-ets-is-won-no-false-flag-et-invasion

Like i said to 'ta anderson' here http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234071&page=5 'ta anderson' have to relax, sit down and close his eyes and concentrate, take deep breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out, and then make a telepathic connection to the Pleiadian star people.

So far so good, the best way i can tell you how to try to make contact to the Pleiadian star people is: Sit down, relax, close your eyes, clear your mind, concentrate, take deep breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out, and then make a telepathic connection to the Pleiadian star people, and 'tell' them about yourself and about your life on Earth.

It would be great if thing are like you said indeed, but Pleiadians could be made up by Illuminati, in order to make us think that some godlike race is there for us, and that we don't have to do anything to make things better. I would like to contact Pleiadians myself, by telepathy for example, but I don't know how.

blaze9
03-02-2013, 12:10 PM
Really no one of them, they've been playing their theatrical game cleverly and now they are probably about to pull their final big deception to either fulfill a NWO ala "golden age" via the downfall of a not so fake invasion or rapture and "evacuate" as many people as possible to flee this place. You can't trust the reptilians and the greys which are also reptilians infact but also any pleadians and humans looking aliens for now because the reps can alter their appearences with their technology, mostly via altered states

blaze9
03-02-2013, 12:22 PM
But that doesn't mean that you can't connect with father god and mother and our brothers even though that they aren't here right now. Just be aware that the reptilians may take any opportunity to mess with you if you seek anwers, this place is shutted down for now due to the magnetosphere, people who expect up close contact with our brothers are prone to their deceptions

koragg245
03-02-2013, 12:30 PM
But that doesn't mean that you can't connect with father god and mother and our brothers even though that they aren't here right now. Just be aware that the reptilians may take any opportunity to mess with you if you seek anwers, this place is shutted down for now due to the magnetosphere, people who expect up close contact with our brothers are prone to their deceptions

That makes sense, but who do you call our mother, father and brothers? Are there more alien species?

king triad
03-02-2013, 03:23 PM
Ignore all alien orders...trust yourself...

koragg245
03-02-2013, 04:28 PM
Ignore all alien orders...trust yourself...

Well said. The more we know, the more havoc we wreck, but still in would be good to have advanced alien civilization as our allies.

grandmasterp
03-02-2013, 04:29 PM
I've read about annunaki, and everyone has something different to say. Some say that annunaki are Nordics, and that they created us to be their slaves, and some say that they are our friends and that grey's and reptilians are our true enemies that formed alliance with Illuminati.

It would be great if someone wiser explained this to me.
......
Klangers are OK.
Aren't they?

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=wfsMZKwqw3w&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DwfsMZKwqw3w&gl=GB

falconeyes
03-02-2013, 06:14 PM
It is full of proven hoaxes which they claim as real.

You mean you expose yourself as nothing more as a pathetic liar :D http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_indigo16.htm http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_indigo18.htm this site of "bibliotecapleyades" shows very reliable info, like for example Boriska, and Dr. Roger Leir, just to name few of many other reliable info from there, and remember, i previously posted the TV documentary about alien implants which are concluded to be of Extraterrestrial origin by some of the best experts in the world :cool:

edelweiss pirate
03-02-2013, 06:19 PM
You mean you expose yourself as nothing more as a pathetic liar :D http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_indigo16.htm http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_indigo18.htm this site of "bibliotecapleyades" shows very reliable info, like for example Boriska, and Dr. Roger Leir, just to name few of many other reliable info from there, and remember, i previously posted the TV documentary about alien implants which are concluded to be of Extraterrestrial origin by some of the best experts in the world :cool:


Dr. Roger Leir

Yeah, very appropriate. That website is full of stuff which is perpetuated by documented fraudsters. For instance the so called 'emerald tablets' by the fake Dr Maurice Doreal who is the invention of Claude Doggins. The whole thing is a proven hoax. The tablets have never been seen and never existed except in the mind of conman.

Listen mate, that website is as barmy as you are. There are no 'experts' the whole thing is fake with other fakes supporting their fellow fakes to make it appear that any of these fakes have credentials.

falconeyes
03-02-2013, 06:22 PM
It would be great if thing are like you said indeed, but Pleiadians could be made up by Illuminati, in order to make us think that some godlike race is there for us, and that we don't have to do anything to make things better.

You misunderstood something here, Pleiadians are not made up by the Illuminati, and you're wrong when you say that we don't have to do anything to make things better. Of course we have to do something to make things better.

You mentioned godlike race, let me show you what kind of alien race reportedly wants humans to see as 'Gods' http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_29.htm These "gods" are called in the tablets, the "Anunnaki", which apparently translates as "those who from heaven to earth came."

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/sherry/who-is-what.html The Enki faction of the Anunnaki

Includes but not limited to:

• Greys from Zeta Reticulum (small greys with the oversized heads who like to mutilate and experiment on humans), also includes Tall Greys (from Orion),

• Reptilians (Earth based), Lizards. These are notably in charge of establishing a one world government through our political leaders. Shape-shift into human form and also use humans as hosts to possess and work through.

• Draco-Reptilians from Orion, the ones really running the show while the others do their bidding. It is the Dracos who are the rulers over the greys and the reptilians. (There are some who believe the Nordic humanoids are Reptilians in disguise). The draco's are shape-shifters, they are annunaki - lizard, they are the ones coming on Planet X (Rahab). The Draconians are red dragons. Lucifer himself lost his once held beauty and was turned into an ugly red dragon. The Reptilians (lizards), greys, and others are all classes of what we call aliens, but were once beautiful angels.

• Annunaki - those who joined in Lucifer's rebellion against the Lord.

And no, Pleiadians are not mentioned as 'Gods'.

I would like to contact Pleiadians myself, by telepathy for example, but I don't know how.

Excuse me, but do you have problems in understanding the English language? If that's the case then i suggest you to learn the English language in a school, and when you have learned the English language then you can come back and read and hopefully understand what i wrote to you and the video clips i posted, right? :rolleyes:
What i suggested was telepathy through meditation. Do you know what meditation is? I can only suggest you to do some research about meditation and suggest you to eventually participate in meditation course in the community you live in. I can even suggest you to make your own pyramid construction where you can sit inside it, were the "pyramid power" can improve the meditation results.
Pyramid meditation
How to build pyramid construction for meditation
How to sit in "meditation position" inside a homemade pyramid

falconeyes
03-02-2013, 06:31 PM
There are no 'experts' the whole thing is fake with other fakes supporting their fellow fakes to make it appear that any of them have credentials.

You expose yourself as nothing more as a pathetic liar again... :D Of course they are experts Implants concluded to of Extraterrestrial origin by some of the best experts in the world
http://www.alienscalpel.com/alien-implant/dr-roger-leir-presents-new-startling-findings-alien-implant-research These objects have been scrutinized by some of the most prestigious laboratories in the world: Los Alamos National Labs, Seal Laboratories, the University of Toronto, and the University of California-San Diego.

edelweiss pirate
03-02-2013, 06:33 PM
You expose yourself as nothing more as a pathetic liar again... :D Of course they are experts Implants concluded to of Extraterrestrial origin by some of the best experts in the world (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoiX7BqscuY)
http://www.alienscalpel.com/alien-implant/dr-roger-leir-presents-new-startling-findings-alien-implant-research


He's a phony mate. In fact he has no business performing surgeries on people, he's not even a real doctor, he's only a 'foot doctor'.



"Dr" Roger Leir is in fact a podiatrist, not a Doctor. Podiatrists require four years of study & can only touch below the ankle in regards to surgery, if you'd bother to read the disciplinary action files you'd see that Leir is incompetent even as a podiatrist. If you'd learn your history you'd see that he came on to Derrel Sims initiative to study implants & was later fired for incompetence, he stole implants from Derrel & claimed them as his own.
Given how biologically challenged you appear to be based on your "brilliant" arguments I'm not sure how much good the truth will do you. Perhaps you could do this forum a big favour & go back to school until you've mastered basic concepts like the difference between proclaimation & Investigation


So, who is Dr. Roger Leir? Roger Leir graduated from the California School Of Podiatric Medicine At Samuel Merritt College in 1964. That would make him likely around 74 years old in 2012. As a Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM) [we used to refer to them as "dropouts from dental school"], this means he is legally allowed to only treat and/or perform surgeries on the foot and ankle (some states may allow a shin). It would be illegal for him to perform surgery on any other part of the body - which is why you'll always hear Leir make reference to his surgical "team," meaning he brings in another guy to actually do the cutting anywhere else on the body other than the feet/ankles, but he always takes the credit.

Though not a surgeon myself, I've been in countless surgeries, with surgeries performed in my Unit on a routine basis. I can guarantee you, the types of surgeries Leir et. al. have performed to remove his so-called "implants" could be done by almost any mother who has had small children that got slivers in their hands or feet. Back in my day, if you got something stuck in your foot/hand/name-your-own-body-part, your mom or dad would gather up the surgical kit (razor blade and tweezers), lay the desired appendage on the table or across their legs, spray a little Bactine® on the site for good measure, and start digging. Once the offending "implant" was removed, another little spray of Bactine®, add a few drops of Mercurochrome™, slap on a Band-Aid®, and go back outside and play. About the only thing Leir and his "team" would use beyond "home surgeries" is a tourniquet for deeper incisions.

Now obviously, if one had a shard that's been impaled into a boney structure, this requires a bit more expertise, but I promise you, not much.

Well, in 1999, Dr. Roger Leir was sanctioned by California Board of Podiatric Medicine, for a period of three years - April 1999-April 2002. His license was not revoked or suspended, but Dr. Leir was place on official probation by the Board for repeated acts of negligence. The Board will release the fact that infractions exist, but will often not make public the specifics of the case(s). I really don't feel like spending any time or money looking into this, but any of you can contact the Board (at links below) to see if you can get specifics.

Leir and his minions have an insatiable appetite for setting up 501(c)(3) tax-exempt foundations, from which many, if not most of their proceeds (book/DVD/lectures) are deposited. Roger Leir's foundation is A & S Research Inc. The addresses for this "education" foundation are too numerous to mention, but a few links below show the story. His Employee Identification Number (EIN) is EIN #77-0559224. There are pleas for donations all over Leir's website, as well as too-many-to-count links splattered across the web. Another frequent C2C guest is Vice President of Leir's foundation. I have not bothered to seek out other board members and their affiliation(s).

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Jordan Maxwell
A & S Research Inc.
Vice President
2006 to Present
http://jordanmaxwell.com/bio.html



In December 2011, Whitley Strieber recounts his conversation with Roger Leir about Leir's hospitalization. Leir apparently contracted a foot infection (Imagine that! There are no coincidences!) and it spread to his abdomen, which required draining. Strieber implores witless readers to send donations directly to Roger Leir via his new Leir Foundation Trust:

Deposit at any Chase Bank: Leir Foundation Trust
Wire Tansfer: Routing # 322271627 (Swift Code CHASUS 33 (for International)
Direct on-line Transfer: Leir Foundation Trust
Check or Money Order: Mail to
Leir Foundation Trust
625 Avenida De Los Arboles
Thousand Oaks, Ca. 91360

This foundation is for personal use - his previous tax-exempt foundation (A & S Research Inc.) cannot be used for personal use per se, but can be used to help fulfill it's educational mission, which can include travel, lodging, and many other expenses related to its mission. (Steven Greer is famous for this kind of thing - I have a shitload on him)

Here is Strieber's attempt to scam money from people to give to Leir:

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Had a long talk with Roger just now. He is in an extraordinary emotional state, but also a very beautiful one, in that it is his core showing, and what is there is so decent and so good and so dedicated. When I think of all he has done for all of us, I am deeply moved, I have to say. Deeply, deeply moved by his excellence, his suffering and his need.

And there is need. He has Medicare, thank God, so he is getting excellent care, but there are financial needs and donations would encourage him and help him get well. I have started the ball rolling with $500.00. Can you spread this around and maybe others can pitch in. ANYTHING matters!

All they have to do is go to AlienScalpel.com and donate there via PayPal.

Love to all,
Whitley



Well, I'm pretty sick and tired of this charlatan buffoon, so if anyone else has additional pertinent information, feel free to contribute.

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Roger Leir, DPM
License number: E1171
case 1B1994035623

http://www.alienscalpel.com/dr-leirs-bio
http://www.alienscalpel.com/alien-implant/leir-foundation
http://www.alienscalpel.com/updates/dr-leir-in-the-hospital-for-13-days
http://www.alienscalpel.com/updates/dr-roger-leir-tribute-fundraiser
http://www.alienscalpel.com/online-store
http://www.granadaforum.com/

http://www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpub/WLLQRYNA$LCEV2.QueryView?P_LICENSE_NUMBER=1171&P_LTE_ID=876
http://www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpub/WLLQRYNA$LCEV2.QueryView?P_LICENSE_NUMBER=1171&P_LTE_ID=875

http://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/pub78Search.do?ein1=77-0559224&names=&city=&state=CA&country=US&deductibility=all&dispatchMethod=searchCharities&submitName=Search

http://www.fundraise.com/non-profit/a-s-research-a-california-business-tr
http://www.faqs.org/tax-exempt/CA/A-S-Research-A-California-Business-Tr-Dr-Leir-K-Roger.html



I would be remiss in not mentioning the:

Dr. Roger Leir Tribute & Fundraiser
tickets $20 at the door
http://www.alienscalpel.com/updates/dr-roger-leir-tribute-fundraiser


Next up: a more detailed look at Steven Greer, his estate (mini-mansion with photos), and monies and connections among his various foundations and companies.

Download the attached video for a funny look at "alien abductees" including Roger Leir.


http://coastgab.com/index.php?topic=3202.0

koragg245
03-02-2013, 07:23 PM
You misunderstood something here, Pleiadians are not made up by the Illuminati, and you're wrong when you say that we don't have to do anything to make things better. Of course we have to do something to make things better.

Don't you understand English? If that's the case then i suggest you to learn the English language in a school, and when you have learned the English language then you can come back and read and hopefully understand what i wrote to you and the video clips i posted, right? :rolleyes:
What i suggested was telepathy through meditation. Do you know what meditation is? I can only suggest you to do some research about meditation and suggest you to participate in meditation course in the community you live in.
Pyramid meditation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6an5ffn8zY)

Dude you edited your post several times after I replied, and then you added a whole lot of additional info. No matter, thanks for contribution.

falconeyes
04-02-2013, 09:03 AM
He's a phony mate.

You mean you're phony. Alien implants
From around 2:10 into the above TV Documentary Dr. Leir says >>There is no evidence of how the implant got inside the body, there is no inflamatory response and that's impossible because anything that enters the body should have an inflammatory response. They (implants) are surrounded by a large number of nerve receptors which are not anatomically correct<<.
Then the host says >>Once the biological membrane was removed it revealed a triangular shaped object, this object was housed in another grey membrane, remarkably this implant could not be cut, not even with a surgical scalpel, the implant was then sent to Los Alamos Laboratory for metallurgical testings<<.
Dr. Leir then says that the laboratory then suggested that more tests should be done.
The host continue saying that he implants were then sent to New Mexico Tec Laboratory for further metallurgical testings.
Dr. Leir then says that their theory is that the implants contain portions of meteorites, they did not know that the implants were removed from human body.
The host then says >>Amazingly New Mexico Lab report revealed that the implants were composed of meteorites so rare that only few have ever been found, at this point scanning microscope electron analysis was conducted on the implants, the results revealed the implants were manufactured and not naturally occuring meteorites, amazingly results shows the implants were connected to patients nerve endings<<.
Dr. Leir then says that the second test following at New Mexico was run by University of California at San Diego.
The host then continue saying >>The lobarotary results from the University of California at San Diego confirm the earlier tests astonishingly the portions of metal analysed in the implants were Extraterrestrial and did not come from Earth<<.

That report is shown from about 4:30 into the above clip.

http://www.richplanet.net/detail.php?dbindex=106 Dr. Leir explains the common characteristics of implant removals he has undertaken over the last decade. No evidence of how the implants get inside the body are present, that is, no scarring. When the soft tissue around the object is examined there is no inflammatory response which according to Dr. Leir is impossible because anything that enters the body should have an inflammatory response. Implants are surrounded by a large number of nerve receptors which are not anatomically correct. One implant which he removed consisted of a grey biological membrane; a tiny sack about 7mm in diameter, which when cut open contained a further grey membrane. This inner membrane was so tough it could not be cut open by a surgical scalpel. Inside this inner membrane was a tiny triangular object.

The object was sent for metallurgic testing at Los Alamos laboratories, who tested the item and then recommended further testing. The object was then analysed by New Mexico Tech laboratory, who had not been told that the object was removed from a human body. The laboratory reported that the object contained elements so rare, that it was probably a fragment of a very rare meteorite, only a few of which have ever been discovered on Earth.

Further examination under an electron microscope, found that the implant did not have a natural structure and seemed to be a manufactured item, therefore was not part of a naturally occurring meteorite. The examination also revealed that the object had been connected to the patient’s nerve endings.

Further research by Dr Leir has revealed that the implants give off radio waves. Using a device for measuring radio waves, he measured signals at two different frequencies produced by the implant whilst still inside the patient’s body. As for figuring out how the implant works, there is yet no explanation.

http://www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com/AlienImplants.html These implanted devices have been examined by some of the world's leading metallurgy labs, including the lab at Los Alamos, New Mexico. Without knowing what the implants were or where they came from, the lab at Los Alamos concluded that the implants must be pieces of a meteorite, because no such metallic isotopes are found on earth. They put this in writing, in their lab report.

Operating under the same conditions, the metallurgy lab at the University of California at San Diego concluded that the metallic isotopes were "Extraterrestrial."

falconeyes
04-02-2013, 09:37 AM
Dude you edited your post several times after I replied, and then you added a whole lot of additional info.
You expose yourself as nothing more than a PATHETIC LIAR... Do you know that? I did NOT edit the post after you replied, my last edit was BEFORE you replied. You need to go back to page 1 and reread your ridiculous post of "03-02-2013, 12:42 PM" http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235331 which proves for all to see here that when you quoted my post, my post contain the last text that says >>So far so good, the best way i can tell you how to try to make contact to the Pleiadian star people is: Sit down, relax, close your eyes, clear your mind, concentrate, take deep breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out, and then make a telepathic connection to the Pleiadian star people, and 'tell' them about yourself and about your life on Earth<< in your reply to my post, were you answered >>I would like to contact Pleiadians myself, by telepathy for example, but I don't know how<< sooo ridiculously... Don't you feel ashamed of yourself?

And nope, i did not edit the post several times, i edited it only few times, beside, i have kept an eye on your reply to my post, so I KNOW that you replied much later with your ridiculous post. Don't you see how FOOLISH you make yourself look like, huh? The last time i edited that post were i said >>So far so good, the best way i can tell you how to try to make contact to the Pleiadian star people is: Sit down, relax, close your eyes, clear your mind, concentrate, take deep breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out, and then make a telepathic connection to the Pleiadian star people, and 'tell' them about yourself and about your life on Earth<< was edited last time 03-02-2013 at 07:23 PM , and your replied with your ridiculous post at 03-02-2013, 12:42 PM were you said >>I would like to contact Pleiadians myself, by telepathy for example, but I don't know how<< , which means you replied with your ridiculous post more than 5 hours later than my last edited post.

And remember, YOU are the one who ASKED, were YOU said >>Is there any way to contact Pleiadian's?<< in your post of "03-02-2013, 11:46 AM"

YOU created this thread 'koragg245', so if you don't want to take your own thread seriously then you are wasting your precious time here for NOTHING, buddy...

jackdaw
04-02-2013, 10:42 AM
Draconian Reptilians allegedly originate from Alpha Draconis star system. Renegade Greys that are allegedly created as "clones" / "biological robots" by Draconian Reptilians works as slaves to serve Draconian Reptilians, these kind of Greys are reportedly removed from Zeta Reticuli and moved to the Orion constellation, and it's that kind of Greys that reportedly abduct thousands of Earth-humans. Alien implants concluded to be of Extraterrestrial origin by some of the best experts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoiX7BqscuY) According to Alex Collier, there are only few thousands of the original Zeta Reticuli Greys left.

Dr Roger Leir? :p No credible evidence submitted for general scientific scrutiny despite his claims, and no evidence whatsoever of anything artificial.

QUOTE FROM ANALYSIS:

"Conclusions
1. The sample consists mainly of iron, with a high carbon and oxygen content. The iron base material contains 5.2% nickel, and is highly magnetic. Traces of iridium, and other precious metals, tungsten, gallium, and germanium present strongly suggest that the metallic portion of the sample was derived from meteoric iron, and is extraterrestrial in origin.
2. The extreme differences in the isotopic ratios of the sample elements from the isotopic ratios of elements found on Earth provide strong confirmation that the material in the sample is of extraterrestrial origin.
3. The sample consists of two major phases; an iron/nickel (Fe/Ni) phase, and a nonmetallic phase resembling a hard biological substance, such as shell, tooth, or bone. The iridescence of the non-metallic phase, seen in light microscopy, suggests a layered microstructure, perhaps similar to mother-of-pearl, or opal.
4. The similarity of the composition of the non-metallic phase to biological material may be responsible for the lack of immune response to the object by the patient’s body.
5. This non-metallic phase is high in carbon, oxygen, silicon, magnesium, aluminum, sulfur, and phosphorus, and is present as an outer covering on the sample, and as inclusions in the metallic, Fe/Ni phase.
6. The non-metallic phase of the sample also contains bundles of carbon nanotubes, perhaps covered, or filled, with calcium and magnesium silicates, phosphates and sulfates.
7. The inclusions of the non-metallic phase have unusual shapes, which suggest artificiality, and functionality. This, along with the fact that the object was giving off radio signals, before removal, strongly indicates that this is a manufactured, nanotechnological device, which was inserted in patient Smith for a definite purpose.
8. The function of the device cannot be determined with certainty from the available data, and the device may have had multiple functions and missions. It is likely, however, that two of its functions had to do with monitoring of the physiological state of Mr. Smith’s body, and mood/mind control."

The irresponsible and irrational speculation appeals to the 'aliens are here' culture. Perhaps you'd care to make a donation via his website. :rolleyes:

falconeyes
04-02-2013, 01:04 PM
Dr Roger Leir?

It was not Dr. Leir who concluded the implants to be of Extraterrestrial origin, you need to go back and reread my post, it was the metallurgy lab experts at the University of California at San Diego who concluded the metallic isotopes to be of "Extraterrestrial" origin. :rolleyes: :cool:

devorian
04-02-2013, 01:07 PM
Somebody said to me that if any intelligent life forms travelled billions of light years to visit us then surely they would come in peace. To which I replied if you travelled to Africa and just happened to tread on an ants nest would you be bothered?

You've got to ask the question why any intelligent life form would want to visit this retarded planet?

king triad
04-02-2013, 01:25 PM
Dr Roger Leir? :p No credible evidence submitted for general scientific scrutiny despite his claims, and no evidence whatsoever of anything artificial.

QUOTE FROM ANALYSIS:

"Conclusions
1. The sample consists mainly of iron, with a high carbon and oxygen content. The iron base material contains 5.2% nickel, and is highly magnetic. Traces of iridium, and other precious metals, tungsten, gallium, and germanium present strongly suggest that the metallic portion of the sample was derived from meteoric iron, and is extraterrestrial in origin.
2. The extreme differences in the isotopic ratios of the sample elements from the isotopic ratios of elements found on Earth provide strong confirmation that the material in the sample is of extraterrestrial origin.
3. The sample consists of two major phases; an iron/nickel (Fe/Ni) phase, and a nonmetallic phase resembling a hard biological substance, such as shell, tooth, or bone. The iridescence of the non-metallic phase, seen in light microscopy, suggests a layered microstructure, perhaps similar to mother-of-pearl, or opal.
4. The similarity of the composition of the non-metallic phase to biological material may be responsible for the lack of immune response to the object by the patient’s body.
5. This non-metallic phase is high in carbon, oxygen, silicon, magnesium, aluminum, sulfur, and phosphorus, and is present as an outer covering on the sample, and as inclusions in the metallic, Fe/Ni phase.
6. The non-metallic phase of the sample also contains bundles of carbon nanotubes, perhaps covered, or filled, with calcium and magnesium silicates, phosphates and sulfates.
7. The inclusions of the non-metallic phase have unusual shapes, which suggest artificiality, and functionality. This, along with the fact that the object was giving off radio signals, before removal, strongly indicates that this is a manufactured, nanotechnological device, which was inserted in patient Smith for a definite purpose.
8. The function of the device cannot be determined with certainty from the available data, and the device may have had multiple functions and missions. It is likely, however, that two of its functions had to do with monitoring of the physiological state of Mr. Smith’s body, and mood/mind control."

The irresponsible and irrational speculation appeals to the 'aliens are here' culture. Perhaps you'd care to make a donation via his website. :rolleyes:

You are quoting this analysis but who is it by?...you leave that part out. I've always found Leir to be credible...

ufochick
04-02-2013, 01:33 PM
I have met with derrel Sims, I gave him dozens of samples. He is a wanna be. He takes people's samples and does NOTHING with them. He does not have the money or the resources to have anything examined by any medical prof.
Everything that is proof is hidden, the medical profession, the universities and the media are so tightly controlled that speaking out on this topic is career suicide if not a death warrant.
There is NO where to send actual samples, NO one who wants proof. I contacted a huge list of supposed experts when my experiences began. None had any interest in any proof.
Sims was a fraud
Bolen told me to imagine shields
Greer would not respond and I could go on with others.
Mufon is completely useless, even more so since it was basically bought by the aerospace industry.

Anyone like myself who comes forward with this information in a public way will be subject to harassment on an unbelievable scale. Thousands of people all over the world have had unexplainable interactions, it's happening. But as it happens it's being suppressed by those who want it hidden.
Until the general public can get over the programming that has been laid across their souls that people who report incidents are insane this will remain an area where proof is impossible.
There is no payoff for those who report such things as abductions, attacks and interactions. The attention is mostly negative and hateful. Friends and family members are angry and there is no money in it.
People come and go. Most of the ones who stay like this Tolec are only after fame, money and followers but most of these also drop away like flies when they realize the payload isn't what they thought it was.

I think the most important proof is the interviews done by military personnel about the sighting of unknown craft around our military/nuclear instillations and how the result is a shut down of any tests or launches.

IMHO that is why some of the races are here, to stop us from making huge mistakes and destroying our earth and damaging our solar system.

falconeyes
04-02-2013, 02:06 PM
You are quoting this analysis but who is it by?...you leave that part out. I've always found Leir to be credible...

Obviously 'jackdaw' have some obvious mysterious reasons since 'jackdaw' refuse to post any link to back up these claims presented by this "mysterious" member called 'jackdaw' who so badly wants to remain sooo ridiculously "mysterious"... :rolleyes: It only makes me laugh at 'jackdaw'

jackdaw
04-02-2013, 07:30 PM
You are quoting this analysis but who is it by?...you leave that part out. I've always found Leir to be credible...

Analysis of Object Taken from Patient John Smith; author Steve Colbern, 25 January, 2009. From the alien scalpel website [:D]

jackdaw
04-02-2013, 07:32 PM
Obviously 'jackdaw' have some obvious mysterious reasons since 'jackdaw' refuse to post any link to back up these claims presented by this "mysterious" member called 'jackdaw' who so badly wants to remain sooo ridiculously "mysterious"... :rolleyes: It only makes me laugh at 'jackdaw'

Good good good. Humour is far preferable to the nonsense oft posted here. :D

All one happy family. :rolleyes:

koragg245
04-02-2013, 08:44 PM
You expose yourself as nothing more than a PATHETIC LIAR... Do you know that? I did NOT edit the post after you replied, my last edit was BEFORE you replied. You need to go back to page 1 and reread your ridiculous post of "03-02-2013, 12:42 PM" http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235331 which proves for all to see here that when you quoted my post, my post contain the last text that says >>So far so good, the best way i can tell you how to try to make contact to the Pleiadian star people is: Sit down, relax, close your eyes, clear your mind, concentrate, take deep breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out, and then make a telepathic connection to the Pleiadian star people, and 'tell' them about yourself and about your life on Earth<< in your reply to my post, were you answered >>I would like to contact Pleiadians myself, by telepathy for example, but I don't know how<< sooo ridiculously... Don't you feel ashamed of yourself?

And nope, i did not edit the post several times, i edited it only few times, beside, i have kept an eye on your reply to my post, so I KNOW that you replied much later with your ridiculous post. Don't you see how FOOLISH you make yourself look like, huh? The last time i edited that post were i said >>So far so good, the best way i can tell you how to try to make contact to the Pleiadian star people is: Sit down, relax, close your eyes, clear your mind, concentrate, take deep breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out - breath in - breath out, and then make a telepathic connection to the Pleiadian star people, and 'tell' them about yourself and about your life on Earth<< was edited last time 03-02-2013 at 07:23 PM , and your replied with your ridiculous post at 03-02-2013, 12:42 PM were you said >>I would like to contact Pleiadians myself, by telepathy for example, but I don't know how<< , which means you replied with your ridiculous post more than 5 hours later than my last edited post.

And remember, YOU are the one who ASKED, were YOU said >>Is there any way to contact Pleiadian's?<< in your post of "03-02-2013, 11:46 AM"

YOU created this thread 'koragg245', so if you don't want to take your own thread seriously then you are wasting your precious time here for NOTHING, buddy...

Dude, wtf is wrong with you? You posted so much text after your last edit I didn't even see your explanation, so I asked other members too. Now you come here "exposing" me, and trying to look like a hero. I thanked you for your explanation, after I saw it later. If you are willing to contribute to this thread more (that would be great), than keep bringing us new info, otherwise go fuck yourself.

falconeyes
05-02-2013, 09:51 AM
Dude, wtf is wrong with you? You posted so much text after your last edit I didn't even see your explanation, so I asked other members too. Now you come here "exposing" me, and trying to look like a hero. I thanked you for your explanation, after I saw it later. If you are willing to contribute to this thread more (that would be great), than keep bringing us new info, otherwise go fuck yourself.

What's wrong with you? Nope, you didn't ask the other members. You mean you expose yourself as nothing more than a PATHETIC LIAR... And yes, you are absolutely right about that i am a hero here, unlike pathetic you :D

Go f... you say? You really are rude, i think your parents need to teach you some lessons and manners and beat your butt with a spanking paddle.

I already contributed to this thread, and you have to learn to deal with it, and if you can't handle it then it's your own problem.

'koragg245'-kid, when you say >>Go f... yourself<< then you are actually refering to yourself... Do you know that?

falconeyes
05-02-2013, 10:02 AM
[COLOR="Indigo"]Good good good.

Thanks for ADMITTING that you have NOTHING to say here other than your own nonsense :D

Humour is far preferable to the nonsense oft posted here.

Thanks for admitting that humor is far preferable than your pathetic socalled "No credible evidence submitted for general scientific scrutiny despite his claims, and no evidence whatsoever of anything artificial"-nonsense as well as your pathetic socalled "The irresponsible and irrational speculation appeals to the 'aliens are here' culture"-nonsense... :D

falconeyes
05-02-2013, 10:14 AM
Analysis of Object Taken from Patient John Smith; author Steve Colbern, 25 January, 2009. From the alien scalpel website [:D]

Then why don't you just post the link and quote the text here? What's the matter, don't you know how to post the link? Are you afraid to admit what kind of amateur you are, huh? :D

koragg245
05-02-2013, 11:22 AM
What's wrong with you? Nope, you didn't ask the other members. You mean you expose yourself as nothing more than a PATHETIC LIAR... And yes, you are absolutely right about that i am a hero here, unlike pathetic you :D

Go f... you say? You really are rude, i think your parents need to teach you some lessons and manners and beat your butt with a spanking paddle.

I already contributed to this thread, and you have to learn to deal with it, and if you can't handle it then it's your own problem.

'koragg245'-kid, when you say >>Go f... yourself<< then you are actually refering to yourself... Do you know that?

Dude, you've got some serious problems. I know your kind. The ones that just came somewhere, and try to gain reputation and hero status "exposing" someone like "liars". If you came here to troll someone, then you failed.
I was nice from the beginning until you began to provoke me. I recommend that we stop this, there is no point.

terrorworld
05-02-2013, 11:29 AM
What's interesting is that in a prophecy about coming World War 3 it's stated that in Europe finally the bearded peoples of the Seven Stars constellation (= Pleiades!) will win this war against the Eastern troops (mainly of the CIS states, obviously) !
(This extreme apocalyptic end times war, with accompanying extreme natural desasters is described in prophecies in numerous details; and it's very probable that it takes place in this year 2013; I'd say from between Easter and June [the latter with higher probability!] on till probably September) And there's another prophecy or 'myth' that Isais = Ishtar = Inanna demands Marduk to throw his spear down to the earth, to 'save their people' (!), after the Eastern troops invaded Europe suddenly. Interesting too, that a contemporary Mayan descendant chief said that the Mayas had a connection to the Pleiadian stars (a star with the name Maia is actually one of the Pleiades!).
Allegedly the Germans (or all Indo-Europeans = Whites?) have got a connection to the star Aldebaran, too (which lies relatively 'near' to the Pleiades).
Isais/Ishtar/Inanna and Marduk were gods of the Sumerians, Babyonians and other ancient cultures, apparently the Anunnaki (not to be confused with the satanic/reptilian Nephilim/Fallen Angels!)
The Zikkurat towers are being regarded as temples of these gods today, but it's possible that these were in deed space stations of these extraterrestrials, too. Interestingly enough the Sumerian word Zikkurat resembles the German word 'Sicherheit' meaning security, and it's told (e.g. in the bible) that the Babylonians built their big Babylonian tower (= Zikkurat Etemenanki) to get nearer to (their) God (but the Jewish God [?] Jahveh didn't want this so he destroyed it).
And in some old Indian Vedas spaceships are described in much detail, anyway.
Result: The Anunnaki and the Pleiadians (plus other non-reptilian humanoids) are much more reliable for me than others. A main problem: Some dark channellers (or even pure charlatans) pretend to be channellers of the side of light (it's always the same thing...), though there are some channellers of the Pleiadians which I find trustworthy (because there were some hardly known or even new scientific things channelled which turned out to be correct later).

This is one main Pleiadians channellings series in which I trust (only the first one of 16 videos quoted here now):

Pleiadians - ET - Ascension - UFO - Channeling - 2012 - 1 of 16.flv - YouTube

jackdaw
05-02-2013, 04:12 PM
Thanks for ADMITTING that you have NOTHING to say here other than your own nonsense :D

Well, you would say it's nonsense because you are deficient of reasoning skills. The aliens in your life are clearly substantiation, healthy scepticism, logical deduction and scientific evidence.

But don't worry - you'll be fine with numerous other gullibles for company.

cinder_darkskys
05-02-2013, 05:50 PM
I've read about annunaki, and everyone has something different to say. Some say that annunaki are Nordics, and that they created us to be their slaves, and some say that they are our friends and that grey's and reptilians are our true enemies that formed alliance with Illuminati.

It would be great if someone wiser explained this to me.

Man great question. WoW. What aliens should we trust?.

Hi I know a bit of this an that about E+T. I been very busy rebuilding my files. after my puter melt down.

I really like the idea of relating E+T to the trust. Its something that humans do not give easily. specifically when it relates to differences.

Even now gays are hanged in some places females are shot an killed for speaking out or up.

So when I relate to man kind. We have a long path an no time to get there.

So trust is important.

I see you relating to cross clutterial references. This is good but there many species.
koragg245
Some say that annunaki are Nordics, and that they created us to be their slaves, and some say that they are our friends and that grey's and reptilians are our true enemies that formed alliance with Illuminati.

The grays are so old they were on mar's an Earth probably before reptilians. At least that my understanding from mars.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1150&pictureid=11789
step back an see the 1st of us.
One the funny things about greys in the US there referred to as BE Biological Entity. By a early release tape CIA to the sen. Not E+T.

Now there are Space grays as well.

in many ways can be looked at as angel note the word Entity.
I have imagery of the start.

I'm of the opinion man was not there creation. based on that imagery. More likely man kind popped up a, surprise. then they took advantage of the opportunistic humans to continually developed earth.

For what ever the end goal is. One the more common statements today is they seem to have far better grasp of faith an religion spirituality. rather then tech as we know it. In fact they gone out there way to take tech. It my believe they don't have

What do I mean When Hubble went up hunt down those video of the event.

See a different or another specie may never of looked up at those stars an dreamed of just exploring them. They may never of developed that kind of imagery system for that 1 proposes to view the many stars an planets. just to dream of that day when we might walk there.

if you knew humans. like they do.
Would you dare be cot helpless by, one.

When we look at one another how many people do we have around us. that we don't trust. We try to separate our self's from thing we do not trust.

Skys

koragg245
05-02-2013, 06:41 PM
Man great question. WoW. What aliens should we trust?.

Hi I know a bit of this an that about E+T. I been very busy rebuilding my files. after my puter melt down.

I really like the idea of relating E+T to the trust. Its something that humans do not give easily. specifically when it relates to differences.

Even now gays are hanged in some places females are shot an killed for speaking out or up.

So when I relate to man kind. We have a long path an no time to get there.

So trust is important.

I see you relating to cross clutterial references. This is good but there many species.
koragg245
Some say that annunaki are Nordics, and that they created us to be their slaves, and some say that they are our friends and that grey's and reptilians are our true enemies that formed alliance with Illuminati.

The grays are so old they were on mar's an Earth probably before reptilians. At least that my understanding from mars.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1150&pictureid=11789
step back an see the 1st of us.
One the funny things about greys in the US there referred to as BE Biological Entity. By a early release tape CIA to the sen. Not E+T.

Now there are Space grays as well.

in many ways can be looked at as angel note the word Entity.
I have imagery of the start.

I'm of the opinion man was not there creation. based on that imagery. More likely man kind popped up a, surprise. then they took advantage of the opportunistic humans to continually developed earth.

For what ever the end goal is. One the more common statements today is they seem to have far better grasp of faith an religion spirituality. rather then tech as we know it. In fact they gone out there way to take tech. It my believe they don't have

What do I mean When Hubble went up hunt down those video of the event.

See a different or another specie may never of looked up at those stars an dreamed of just exploring them. They may never of developed that kind of imagery system for that 1 proposes to view the many stars an planets. just to dream of that day when we might walk there.

if you knew humans. like they do.
Would you dare be cot helpless by, one.

When we look at one another how many people do we have around us. that we don't trust. We try to separate our self's from thing we do not trust.

Skys

Looks like the original humans were quite opportunistic :D. You are right about trust. I guess the only way to find out the truth is to join some secret society, and work our way to the highest ranking members.

cinder_darkskys
05-02-2013, 08:01 PM
an sub specie We probably don't have enough diplomata train to deal with them all even world wide.

which is part the problem.
think about it. how would you deal with it.
then add the governments who are all higgly piggly here an there out for there own well beaning.

Add in the 5 or 7 just main faith. all higgly piggly killing an murdering for there own ideas of what god is an what they believe god wants.

Then you add the 7 billion dis-informationist < scratch head ). try to get there own idea across.

An of corce our own special brand of friendship. The gun.

So looking at a thing like diplomatic with E+T become impossible. Let alone can physical contact be made. Would you want your nations leaders in close contact with these things.

I will say that I have posted 50 + species in passed years in imagery. Most likely more.

From what I see around me. With how these thing are delt with is, pitiful. An man kind understanding of it all as bad. I still say the best I can hope for is 1 in 1000 to have some kind of understanding. an in just 1 thing.

even when its in there faces. Is to hide there faces cover there ears an there mouths. an say we better go this way. maybe it wont fallow or be there.
This video has a bad ending which is new to this video. I have a few friend that back up my video. TG. I'll try to re up load it. but it make a clear point.

for now its one of kind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_cfViZ2x1E

So I see a lot this an that on peoples direction an no solution. While we all running around like chicken with out heads cut off. Pointing at this an that. but spinning our wheels to no where.
< time loop )
but i'll keep pointing to space. an i'll talking in a whisper.

I still say the grass roots of the community improvements. Shaking up the upper levels of global leadership. So they can work with in system. To more effective address common concerns. rather addressing immunity, from the law.

Weeks ago I watch a documentrey on sciences 1% they could save if the world were to end.

lol now let me get this right. your going to save 1%. 99% are just going to let that happen. Nope.

if you get any thing off
Your going to use nukes exploding as traceable prop-lent as you glide. Ops Explode leavening a trail of radioactive behind you an just fly off. for any thing to fallow.:eek:

These are the kinds of idea's running throw Canada's heads on discovery a TV station.:confused:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1127&pictureid=11190

David Icke's Official Forums > Main Forums > UFOs / ETs / Anunnaki / Orbs / Crop Circles / Solar System / Space > What aliens should we trust?

Ya so trust. its a big deal.

Skys

boobalicious
07-02-2013, 08:40 PM
i think we should only trust the good one's

falconeyes
08-02-2013, 12:26 PM
Dude, you've got some serious problems. I know your kind. The ones that just came somewhere, and try to gain reputation and hero status "exposing" someone like "liars". If you came here to troll someone, then you failed.
I was nice from the beginning until you began to provoke me. I recommend that we stop this, there is no point.

I really try my best to contribute to this thread, and i really try my best not to make you look like a fool. Sorry if i somehow made you think my posts looked provocative to you, which was not my intention.

falconeyes
08-02-2013, 01:41 PM
Looks like the original humans were quite opportunistic

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantida_mu/esp_lemuria_8.htm The Spiritual Hierarchies of the Vega system were then asked if they would permit this species to be vastly altered genetically to accelerate their evolution so that they may become a guardian species. The Vega Spiritual Hierarchies agreed. So, the traces of the first humans came from the Vega Star System. Their technology improved very quickly, and once they had developed star travel technology they started to migrate into nearby star systems for a period of 2.5 million years.

Your origins are not of this world, but are extraterrestrial in nature, and are to be found on a planet that circles the star Vega in the Lyra constellation.

http://home.tiscali.nl/gibbon/ssoa/maldek.htm The shattered souls from Maldek ended up scattered over every planet within your solar system including Earth. Seventy-five per cent of the personality entities that are currently channeled by your human form are comprised of shattered souls from Maldek. The other 25 per cent appear to come from the failed experiment in the Pleiades. As one transits the initiations and releases the personality, such entities can also be healed and return to the state of wholeness as the karma from Maldek or the Pleiades is also released.

Many may wonder why this karma has not been spoken of before. This is simply because the karma had been erased from all libraries within your creation, including your solar system. Karma, however, is holographic and therefore contained within the genetics of all living things. It has been through the ascension of the human species, including our channels, along with Earth, that this karma has been pieced together to be reviewed and then released. All karma insures that a particular experience will occur again. If Earth and humanity did not release every last destructive piece of karma, it would ensure that both would be destroyed rather than ascend

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_U2.htm This second group of extraterrestrials is primarily ‘human’ and can easily integrate with human society in the manner described by Dean and others where they can be indistinguishable from the rest of humanity. [53] These races are described to be from star systems such as Lyra, Pleiades, Sirius, Procyon, Tau Ceti, Ummo, Andromeda and Arcturus who have provided some of the genetic material for the seeding of humanity on Earth. [54] According to Alex Collier, a total of 22 extraterrestrial races have provided genetic material for the ‘human experiment’.

These include Reptilian, Gray and Anunnaki races described earlier as well as those races in this second group which Collier describes as ‘benevolent’:

That we, as a product of extraterrestrial genetic manipulation, are possessors of a vast gene pool consisting of many different racial memory banks, also consisting of at least 22 different races. Because of our genetic heritage, and because we are spirit, the benevolent extraterrestrial races actually view us as being royalty.
http://books.google.dk/books?id=Qv3xqAlSJxEC&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=Native+indians+Vega+star+system&source=bl&ots=m9SRDIsdZM&sig=le_EaB5hGa44cYyVCmrpaeidBDc&hl=da&sa=X&ei=ke0bT8nYH7H64QTBmazkDQ&ved=0CG0Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Native%20indians%20Vega%20star%20system&f=false According to the Cherokee, the descendants of the Pleiadian star people and the Earth beings are called the Red nations of North America. Their story tells of Pleiadian star people coming to Atlantis, intermingling with the original Earth inhabitants, and having children that carried the beginning of higher consiousness.

I guess the only way to find out the truth is to join some secret society, and work our way to the highest ranking members.

I advice you to NOT to try to join the Secret Society which is obviously run by the bad Draconian Reptilians. Do you know what happened to Cathy O'Brien and her daughter? http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles13.htm It was Bush a paedophile and serial killer, who regularly abused and raped Cathy’s daughter, Kelly O’ Brian, as a toddler before her mother’s courageous exposure of these staggering events forced the authorities to remove Kelly from the mind control program known as Project Monarch. Cathy writes in Trance Formation of America of how George Bush was sitting in front of her in his office in Washington DC when he opened up a book at a page depicting "lizard-like aliens from a far off, deep space place". Bush then claimed to be an ’alian’ himself and appeared, before her eyes, to transform ’like chameleon’ into a reptile.... I know other people who have seen George Bush shape-shift into a reptilian.
Bush Jr. even admitted he is a member of "Skull & Bones" also known as Secret Society
George W. Bush Jr. admit he is member of "Skull & Bones" also known as Secret Society
JFK blows the whistle on the Secret Societies
Bush Sr. allegedly shapeshifted into a reptilian being in front of Cathy O'Brien telling her he is from another planet, and shown below Bush Jr's yellow "Lizard eyes"
From about 1:33 into the above clip you will probably notice Bush Jr.'s yellow "Lizard eyes" with a slit in the middle. Bush Jr. eyes are usually blue, but his eyes change color to brown or yellow with a "Lizard slit" in the middle from time to time.
This woman explain Bush's eyes change color
Alex Collier - Moon and Mars Lecture 1996
From about 1:40:00 into the above 1996 Lecture Alex Collier mention that Moranae 'told' him that New York City will turn to "Ash" in the near future, it will be a "sacrifice" an act of terrorism will turn it to "Ash", and "The Powers that be" already made that decision, and he said that back in 1996, about 5 years before 911 happened All 3 Towers fall down and turn to "Ash" after the planes hit 2 of the Towers
And when Alex Collier say "The Powers that be" then it means The Illuminati / The New World Order / The Secret Society run by Draconian Reptilians, and as Alex Collier said http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/alex_collier_awake_and_aware_en.html The people – the personages – that rule the planet are not us. They are NOT human beings. And I will say this with my very last breath: They are NOT us.
Did you know it was the Bush family who financed Hitler's war campaign? It was... "The Secret Society" is even allegedly behind 911 http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=16388 "Reptilians" caused 911 USA terror
David Icke tears apart the official 911 report
Bush Jr. caught lying about 911
http://www.infowars.com/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/ Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.
http://rense.com/general57/aale.htm SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a witness who is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S. undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled. Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered. We have incriminating evidence, documents as well as witnesses, to this effect.
Jesse Ventura - The Twin Towers 911
From about 4:40 into the above clip 911 witness William Rodriques WTC Maintenance Worker tells how the explosions occurred inside the Twin Towers moments before the planes hit the Towers
Norad ordered to stand down
From about 5:00 into the above clip Charles Lewis said Norad was ordered to stand down, and the order came from *The Highest Level of the White House*, i repeat the order came from *The Highest Level of the White House*, this is confirmed by none other than Norman Mineta, transportation secretary at the time.

Draconian Reptilians reportedly torture children to death in front of their parents, and eat people alive, also described by Peggy Kane in the interview below Peggy Kane - Reptilians
In ancient times the Draconian Reptilians allegedly taught Mayans/Aztecs to build their magnificent pyramids and arrange them in patterns reflecting the constellations, and forced their virgins to the Draco, so Draconian Reptilians disguised as "priest" could rape the virgins to death.

According to Alex Collier, there is still a war against the Draconian Reptilians these years, but he also says that the war against "The Powers that be" (also called Illuminati, or the New World Order, or the Secret Society controlled by the Draconian Reptilians) is not over yet.

I advice you to NOT to try to join the Secret Society...

falconeyes
08-02-2013, 03:32 PM
i think we should only trust the good one's
And the good ones that are mentioned are for example the Pleiadians and the Andromedans :) http://arcturi.com/PleiadianAliens.html The Pleiadians are said to resemble humans in form; however, they are highly advanced spiritual beings. Pleiadians are believed to exist in a different space-time dimension because of their ability to harness the powers of the higher spiritual planes. The Pleiadians are extra-terrestrials whom originate from the planet Erra which orbits the star 10-Tauri (also known as Taygeta). Pleiadians are said to be refugees from the Lyran Wars. Brought into light by the controversial alien contactee and prophet Billy Meier, Pleiadians, known as Plejaren by Billy Meier, continue to capture our thoughts and imaginations into the infinite reaches of our Universe and what it may hold.

Pleiadian Aliens have a unique history like any humanoid civilization found in our galaxy because many years ago, the first human world called Avalon was destroyed by the evil alien races of the Reptilians and Greys. Lyrans, Avalon inhabitants, were displaced to many places in our galaxy, but many of the humans from Avalon found themselves in the planet Erra in the Pleiades constellation. Here the Lyrans would mingle with the indigenous population of humanoid beings and eventually become known as Pleiadians. Today, the struggle that Pleiadians are faced with is a far cry from our human struggles here on Earth. The Pleiadians have set out to answer the calling of the higher levels of spirituality and create a harmonic existence which has been taught to them by the Arcturians. The difficult journey for the Pleiadians is removing the festering hatred they hold towards those who have caused so much chaos to the human population throughout the galaxy. Today, the Pleiadians hold important roles in the Galactic Federation of the Worlds and hold their own for of a higher council known as the Pleiadian Light Council. The Pleiadian Light Council is set out to ensure that the race of Pleiadians gains ground in their battle to become a peaceful and harmonic race like that of their Arcturian brothers.
Pleiadians - Travel vast distances in space in a "Split Second"
Andromedans - Travel vast distances in space by using "Space Highways"
http://www.examiner.com/article/whistleblower-wwiii-a-war-between-hostile-ets-and-humanity-has-started Michael Prince, an active duty whistleblower trained to be a cyborg super soldier assassin in SS and MI-6 U.K. intelligence networks, has stated that World War III, a war between hostile extraterrestrial civilizations and the human civilization has started. Armed hostilities between human forces and hostile extraterrestrial forces are now taking place frequently, Mr. Prince states.

An ET false flag operation is also planned

Humans allied with the Grey/Reptilian Military Industrial Extraterrestrial Complex [MIEC] are concurrently preparing a false flag ET invasion, Mr. Prince stated. The negative extraterrestrial-human alliance intent on Earth take-over is referred to as the Military Industrial Extraterrestrial Complex [MIEC].

Superior survival dynamics of homo sapiens

Because of the superior survival dynamics of the human species, Mr. Prince states, human society will defeat the hostile extraterrestrial civilizations that consist mainly of a Grey and Draco Reptilian faction. “It is a dangerous situation,” Mr. Prince states at the end of the interview. “However, all is under control and people should not panic.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/et-council-war-with-grey-draco-reptilian-ets-is-won-no-false-flag-et-invasion Regarding the possibility of a future false flag ET attack, Tolec indicated, "The Andromeda Council (AC) is very aware of the - much higher than average - number of UFO 'sightings' over this relatively small area of land, Washington D.C., known as the seat of our nation's government.

"The AC first showed me a grid, a network of underground tunnels, spreading out from Washington D.C. upward toward the hills... where the remaining greys & reptilians are still roaming around attempting to cause trouble. The greys are currently positioning themselves at strategic underground tunnel locations at various points underneath the city - preparing for a coordinated 'false flag', fake attack event. The AC intelligence people are keenly aware of these activities.

"However, the greys & reptilians, are 'fighting for their lives', they know the game for control & power is slipping away, and is almost 'up'. they know the war is over. they know they have lost. they are 'playing their last hand'.

http://www.humanitywinsilluminatilose.com/?p=3 3) Planet Earth was taken over by an Inter-dimensional, Extra-terrestrial Reptilian race sometime in the past. This Reptilian race set up all the major structures of society including monarchies, government and banking in order to control and direct humanity and have used Secret Societies such as the Freemasons and Illuminati to put these structures into place. The evidence suggests that these Reptilians are from the constellation of Orion. Other Human races, from other planets, primarily from the Pleiades, have been involved in a war against this Reptilian race and in fact a large number of Pleiadians are on Earth at this time in Human bodies. If you are reading these words there is a very high chance indeed that you are one of them.

The bottom line though is that these Reptilians have all but been defeated and Humanity will once again be free! So do not worry or feel fear. There is obviously a lot to explain regarding the full story, and it couldn’t possibly all be communicated in this post, but the whole story, or as much of the whole story as is understood as this point in time, will be communicated to you. For now though, if you haven’t been exposed to Peggy Kane’s research it is vital that you take the time to listen to what she has to say.

"Pleiadian contactee" Colleen Thomas - Pleiadian spaceship shot down missile fired by Reptilians

koragg245
08-02-2013, 03:38 PM
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantida_mu/esp_lemuria_8.htm
http://home.tiscali.nl/gibbon/ssoa/maldek.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_U2.htm
http://books.google.dk/books?id=Qv3xqAlSJxEC&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=Native+indians+Vega+star+system&source=bl&ots=m9SRDIsdZM&sig=le_EaB5hGa44cYyVCmrpaeidBDc&hl=da&sa=X&ei=ke0bT8nYH7H64QTBmazkDQ&ved=0CG0Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Native%20indians%20Vega%20star%20system&f=false

I advice you to NOT to try to join the Secret Society which is obviously run by the bad Draconian Reptilians. Do you know what happened to Cathy O'Brien and her daughter? http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles13.htm
'koragg245', you really don't want to risk of being abused by the Bush family, right? Because that is you will risk if you decide to try join the Secret Society also called "Skull & Bones", beside, Bush Jr. even admitted he is a member of "Skull & Bones" (Secret Society) George W. Bush Jr. admit he is member of "Skull & Bones" also known as Secret Society (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY-0OMAqNqI)
Bush Sr. allegedly shapeshifted into a reptilian being in front of Cathy O'Brien telling her he is from another planet, and shown below Bush Jr's yellow "Lizard eyes" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzIhWyJL9H8)
From about 1:33 into the above clip you will probably notice Bush Jr.'s yellow "Lizard eyes" with a slit in the middle. Bush Jr. eyes are usually blue, but his eyes change color to brown or yellow with a "Lizard slit" in the middle from time to time.
Alex Collier - Moon and Mars Lecture 1996 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDZ2BWXqzCg)
From about 1:40:00 into the above 1996 Lecture Alex Collier mention that Moranae 'told' him that New York City will turn to "Ash" in the near future, it will be a "sacrifice" an act of terrorism will turn it to "Ash", and "The Powers that be" already made that decision, and he said that back in 1996, about 5 years before 911 happened All 3 Towers fall down and turn to "Ash" after the planes hit 2 of the Towers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzbVn3o8JNE)
And when Alex Collier say "The Powers that be" then it means The Illuminati / The New World Order / The Secret Society run by Draconian Reptilians, and as Alex Collier said http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/alex_collier_awake_and_aware_en.html
Did you know it was the Bush family who financed Hitler's war campaign? It was... "The Secret Society" is even allegedly behind 911 http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=16388
David Icke tears apart the official 911 report (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLBWIi3ykxk)
Bush Jr. caught on lying about 911 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60)
http://www.infowars.com/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/
http://rense.com/general57/aale.htm
Jesse Ventura - The Twin Towers 911 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBidCorkq2k)
From about 4:40 into the above clip 911 witness William Rodriques WTC Maintenance Worker tells how the explosions occurred inside the Twin Towers moments BEFORE the planes hit the Towers
Norad ordered to stand down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9tvrYg85qU)
From about 5:00 into the above clip Charles Lewis said Norad was ordered to stand down, and the order came from *The Highest Level of the White House*, i repeat the order came from *The Highest Level of the White House*, this is confirmed by none other than Norman Mineta, transportation secretary at the time.

'koragg245', you really don't want to join this "Secret Society", and risk of being abused and eat alive by them, right? Draconian Reptilians reportedly torture children to death in front of their parents, and eat people alive, and in ancient times they allegedly taught Mayans/Aztecs to build their magnificent pyramids and arrange them in patterns reflecting the constellations, and forced their virgins to the Draco, so Draconian Reptilians disguised as "priest" could rape the virgins to death.

'koragg245', i'm gonna say this again: I advice you to NOT to try to join the Secret Society... >>BOO!<< :D

Yeah I know, secret societies and cults are indeed quite scary, but they probably know more then we do. Still I wont risk. Do you have any info on recognizing an reptilian?

falconeyes
08-02-2013, 04:30 PM
[COLOR="Indigo"]Well, you would say it's nonsense because you are deficient of reasoning skills.

Do you know how to post link(s) to support what you are trying to say?

You have to open another Internet (it is possible to open as many Internets as you want), and go in there to the another Internet, and after you open the links you are looking for then move the cursor up to the web adress bar and click on the right button of your Mouse, and then move the cursor down to the grey little "window" to the text that says "Copy", and then click on the left button on your Mouse on that text that says "Copy", and then shift back to your "Reply to Thread" at the David Icke forum and move your cursor to a place you want to paste the link you want to post at your text box, and then click on the right button on your Mouse, and move your cursor down the grey little box to the text that says "Paste". The link adress should then appear on your post.

jackdaw
09-02-2013, 02:34 AM
Do you know how to post link(s) to support what you are trying to say?

It is a waste of time where blind faith is concerned. Seen any reptilians lately? Any UFOs? What about Collier's aliens? Perhaps one or two more pointless predictions? How about the man in the moon? :D

Anyone can play stupid. But it comes naturally to some. ;)

night_gaunt
09-02-2013, 02:40 AM
No one should trust any alien race. Just because a few people say Pleiadians are great/bad does not mean we should outright embrace/attack one. Same goes for any other race.

blaze9
09-02-2013, 09:09 AM
That makes sense, but who do you call our mother, father and brothers? Are there more alien species?

We can't know their names for now in here, anything else could be a deception just like the religions

I don't know about any other race really beside the "pleaidians"( and humans),reptilians and hybrids, but surely there is, though it's hard to tell for sure due to the deceits

falconeyes
09-02-2013, 10:49 AM
No one should trust any alien race.

You mean you can't trust yourself, right? Obama says >>There's still kind of Reptilian side of our brain<<

falconeyes
09-02-2013, 10:53 AM
It is a waste of time where blind faith is concerned.

So you refuse to post any link to support what you are trying to say... Which means you are wasting your precious time here for nothing. Nobody can take you seriously, so why don't you just go back to Kindergarten then?

omora21812
09-02-2013, 11:34 AM
Hi I'm new to posting on this forum so please excuse me while I get acquainted with how to do this properly. I have so many questions and things to share its hard to know where to start.
I have by chance come across a reptilian in my home up north, by pure mistake. Now and again my eyes seem to do this weird shift, very rarely but it does happen (The doctor looked at me strange when I asked about it). At the time I happened to be waitressing at this small hippie bar, I was serving a gentalman (customer) a pizza when my eyes decided to do their weird shift thing as I was about to serve him his meal. Was a split second but the face appeared half human half reptile. I was in shock and it took me a while to realise what the humans side of the face looked like, so I let the night go past confused as to what happened. So I processed this and it took me a couple of days to pluck the courage up, and to catch him coming in the cafe again (I'm sure it seemed he was avoiding me, and I seem to make him uneasy) but I got the chance to address him. When I did he offered me some information, he told me that his species is simalar to ours, although the collective has an agenda some disgree to the dirrection that their own kind is taking and choose to live amoungst us. He said when they reveal themselves which they soon will, do not believe the first ones who present themselfves and do not go with them. That they will offer empty promises not in our best interest, althought they will seem to offer the world it will be a lie. That many other alien species are here apart from them, and in that take comfort. Is it unheard of for a reptilian to seem to show empthy towards us? Do you think there is any truth in this message? I have respected that person/ shapshifters privacy and not persued with more questions. I have or never did expect that person to be as I have seen, nor it to happen in my location. I hope you will help to offer some light on this strange occurance.

jackdaw
09-02-2013, 11:56 AM
So you refuse to post any link to support what you are trying to say... Which means you are wasting your precious time here for nothing. Nobody can take you seriously, so why don't you just go back to Kindergarten then?

:D

Your nonsense means nothing. I'm immune from slights, brickbats and any form of abuse on here.

You seem to be under the wrong impression that individuals must prove the non-existence of something.:rolleyes: When people apparently believe most of what they read or hear it is for them to use a bit of cautionary scepticism and common sense.

If your aliens exist and you continue to promote the theory, you do so like many others without any proof or a shred of hard evidence. Anyone can make and post YouTube videos; anyone can post links purporting all manner of things. But when it comes down to substantiating claims there is nothing but theory, along with numerous claimed contactees, abductees, self-proclaimed messiahs and cults.

When you can post PROOF of the existence of alien races, especially those said to already be on earth, then that will be worthy and I, like many others, will listen. But no. Spurious tales, half-baked stories from dubious sources, and repeating the confused claims of alleged contactees is the order of the day.

This forum is (purportedly) a melting pot and magnet for people seeking truth. Why do you think Mr Icke spends 8+ hours on his presentations? Because he expands on his ideas and demonstrates validity for most of them.

So expand on yours and prove a point rather than maintaining a childish and evasive approach.

omora21812
09-02-2013, 12:02 PM
I've come to the conclusion if we where to communicate with them it has to be in a human way truthfull to who we are reguardless of how that might be perceived. With emotion, openness and a willingness to push the boundries of our minds. I think we are fearful of making mistakes when communicating with them and our own decisions. I've come to see myself simalar to a computer that information is slowly downloading to a capacity that does not overwhelm me, and also on a level that is also upgrading my functioning. If so many species exsist here lets say, and we are a product of their creation then they have had many changes to delete us. And the way we release ourselfves from this bondage will also become us, so we need to act in accordance of who we want to become. Oops said aleins species, lol sorry been big day.

falconeyes
09-02-2013, 12:13 PM
Seen any reptilians lately?

Woman claim to be part human part Reptilian in this Jesse Ventura TV documentary - Reptilians
There's a dude who sit in front of this "Reptilian shapeshifter woman", he says >>I saw her eyes shift!<<

Any UFOs?

http://www.cavinessreport.com/ED2.html I remember an incident that occurred during the first few days of 1989 when I was on active duty with the US Navy at Cecil Field Naval Air Station in Florida. I was assigned to one of the many work centers inside the base's aircraft electronics repair facility (officially, the Aviation Intermediate Maintenance Department or AIMD). A shipmate and good buddy of mine at the time was back from a few weeks stay at our naval air base in Puerto Rico—Roosevelt Roads Naval Air Station. I greeted him when I first saw him in the AIMD work center at Cecil Field and quickly noticed that he seemed a bit down. I asked him what was wrong and he told me that the Puerto Rico base's F-14 fighter squadron had just lost two aircraft (this would have included two pilots—and two radar intercept officers who flew back seat). The following is how our conversation went according to memory.

I was surprised when he said two aircraft, and I asked, "Are you serious?" And he replied, "Yeah" .
I thought a moment then said, "Midair collision?" But, much to my astonishment, he said, "No" .
I then asked, "What do you mean, no midair collision? How, then, could they lose two airplanes the same day?"
I noticed that he didn't seem to want to go into detail for some strange reason. This was not normal for him. Normally, this man, a dedicated sailor and skilled technician, would have been eager to tell me anything he could about an aircraft mishap including his own speculations. But, not this time.
The navy would lose a plane somewhere ever so often and we would usually get word of it very quickly through unofficial channels in the naval aviation community—and personnel were usually eager to pass on what news they could. I knew my shipmate had friends in that squadron from previous visits he had made to Roosevelt Roads Naval Air Station or, "N.A.S. Rosy Roads", as we always called it. But, it was unusual to hear of two planes being lost in one day and even more unusual for it not to be due to a midair collision. And, as if that wasn't enough, it was becoming even more unusual because he was being reluctant to talk about it. I pressed him.

"Well, what happened?" "Oh, I can't really talk about it" , he said. "There's an investigation still ongoing..."
That had never stopped any of us before from spreading news of an aircraft mishap. Suddenly, I got the impression that he had been told not to talk.
But, I asked, "Well, can you tell me anything else" ?
He basically added only that the two planes were lost at apparently the same time—definitely on the same day, for sure. And that it was—for some strange reason—very "hush-hush". This didn't make sense to me. We aviation maintenance guys had a "grapevine" that was fleet-wide. Anything significant to know about would be spread pretty quickly. Usually, whenever one of our navy aircraft squadrons would lose a plane, we would find out about it quickly then wait for details to come in later. And, usually, the information was pretty reliable. But, apparently nothing was coming out regarding this incident. I had hoped that maybe I would hear something, later. But, after considerable effort to find follow-up information over the next few weeks, I realized that the investigation had indeed been handled as top secret.

The author stated in his book that on December 28, 1988, at approximately 7:45 pm, a large triangle craft roughly the size of a baseball field was seen moving steadily along in the region near the naval air station in Puerto Rico, according to many witnesses (over a hundred). Three F-14s intercepted the moving UFO and apparently tried to force it to change its course. As the navy fighter planes engaged the large craft, it slowed down its forward speed almost to a standstill. One plane, in particular, stayed mostly to the right of the UFO and another stayed behind the UFO making close approaches at times. The third plane apparently stayed a bit farther out. The F-14 in the rear came close to the object, but as it flew either over or under the object, it was not seen again. Small red lights were also seen at times flying outside the large craft and may have served to protect the craft. It was as if the fighter plane had somehow been drawn into the large craft. The second aircraft made a sweep closer to the large object and was seen by one ground witness—using binoculars—to suddenly disappear—possibly being taken in by the UFO. The third F-14 reportedly high-tailed it out of the area on afterburner with glowing red lights chasing after it apparently in pursuit, according to ground witnesses.

Just after the unidentified craft had confiscated the two fighters, it began to steadily descend almost to the ground. In a blinding flash of yellow light, the large craft divided into two sections—actually, two separate craft. They both quickly flew off in different directions—one heading in the direction of the escaping F-14. The story goes that there was an immediate government cover-up and the military denied the entire story of an unidentified craft. Rear Admiral David Rogers, Deputy Assistant Chief of Naval Operations, in response to an inquiry, told a member of the House of Representatives, that no aircraft mishaps had even occurred during the time of the reported incident and that no aircraft had been lost. (I know better.)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441714/pg1
http://www.alien-ufos.com/ufo-alien-discussions/19513-island-puerto-rico-ufos.html
UFOs in Puerto Rico
Yehaa Great Balls of Fire
:cool:
UFOs shut down nuclear warheads, including a UFO shooting beam of light at dummy warhead
"Pleiadian contactee" Colleen Thomas - Pleiadian spaceship shot down missile fired by Reptilians

What about Collier's aliens?

http://www.ufohypotheses.com/collier.htm Andromedan contactee Alex Collier has had his face-to-face contacts with blue-skinned human ETs from the Andromeda constellation and the Andromeda galaxy, which have included multiple visits aboard their tremendous motherships and decades of telepathic contact. Collier talks of the Andromedan civilization and their Council to which the Pleiadian ETs appealed for assistance in dealing with a dangerous, malevolent ET confederation plaguing humanity and much of the galaxy.
'Tolec' - The Andromeda Council

Perhaps one or two predictions?

Alex Collier - 1996 Moon & Mars Lecture
From about 1:40:00 into the above 1996 Lecture you will hear Alex Collier mention New York City turn to "Ash" in the near future, about 5 years before 911 took place. :cool:

Not long time ago it was possible to see TV interview of the employees of the Equadorian Embassy in Peru were these employees told that they were visited by Pleiadian Nordic Galactic Commander called Banyś, and they told that he gave a prediction about an earthquake that came through somewhere in South America were the earthquake killed thousands of people, it was once possible to watch it on Youtube, but here's quote from it (their English way of writing is not 100 percent perfect, but okay) I will be introducing to you a very special case ..At the Equador's embassy in Peru a person who said was an extraterrestrial arrived, but the most shocking part of it ..is that the proved it ..the officials involved including the embassador share their accounts with us ..an amazing news. On August 1978 in Lima, Peru, at the embassy of Equador ..a being who said to be an extraterrestrial ..commander Banyś arrived in an extraterrestrial vessel who requested a meeting with the consul of Equador ..but was not able to talk with him. The next day a secret memo from Equador's Department of Defense arrived requesting the number of war ships that were due to leave the port of El Callao. A week later commander Banyś met with the consul of the embassy Jose Davila and cultural affairs Alberto Avila, but as a greeting alien commander Banyś presented them with a picture (from a cosmic radar) who showed all the war ships from that country at which point the consul realized it was an undisclosed and sensitive information because of the problems Equador had with Peru. He quickly sent the picture attached to a 3-page memo with detailed and well written instructions on how to reach peace between the two countries to Equador's Department of Defense ..he also gave them a radar picture of the post of intelligence from Equador's military. This story was investigated by Equadorian ufologist Jaime Rodriguez, and aired on the TV program 'UFO evidence'. Alberto Avila in an interview described Banyś as being who looked Nordic about almost 7 feet tall who was dressed impeccably and that emited a very strong scent which it was very pleasant and penetrating. Meetings with Banyś extrended for over four months ..at which time gave predictions all of them becoming true and taking place one by one ..including an earthquake and changes in the Government. He told us about the earthquake ..and change in the Government in October 5th ..the change in the Government occured and the earthquake struck killing 40,000 people. In one of his last meetings Alberto Avila told the galactic commander that on his way out the embassy could arrest him ..he did this to see the extraterrestrial's reaction ..but the commander showed him that his technology was his best defense. Last time i saw him, i told him >>How about if i get you arrested on your way out of the embassy?<<, and he showed me a scapulary a pendant that it was a miniature TV set with four very clear screens ..and in one of the four screens i saw myself and him ..and some type of orbs ..around the vessel ..and he said >>These orbs are surrounding me, controlling me and protecting me ..and here (showing him the pendant) two of us identified from above<< ..I was in shock ..and it terrified me! A few minutes he took them outside the embassy and showed them one of the ships who was almost literally above them ..Like lightning ..a violet color light and some shade of perhaps yellow. Banyś invited them inside the ship ..but for fear the diplomats rejected the offer. Jaime confirmed there other meetings with Chile's and Guatemala's countries but there is not disclosed information.

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/prophecy/billy-meier-ufo-photographer-notorious-pleiadian-contactee.html 10/31/11 UPDATE! Meier's Prophetic Accuracy Confirmed...by Skeptics! NASA's "Most Important" Jupiter Discovery Published First -- by UFO Prophet. Now presenting the most controversial UFO / ET case in history. The truth is exposed in this remarkable film about how one man's meetings with extraterrestrials lead him through dozens of countries, meeting many famous world leaders including Saddam Hussein and later revealing ancient prophecies that would eventually come true. In 1958 he predicted the Iraq Wars, Global Warming and even the AIDS epidemic.


How about the man in the moon?

Apollo 11 Astronauts - UFOs on Lunar surface
http://clubensayos.com/imprimir/Los-Ovnis/8032.html Houston: >>We have not, don't worry, continue your program<<.

Armstrong: >>Oh boy, it's a, it's, it, it is really something fantastic here, you, you could never imagine this<<.

Houston: >>Roger, we know about that, could you go the other way, go back the other way!<<

Armstrong: >>Well that's kind of rigged ah, pretty spectacular... God... What is that there?... What the h... is that???<<

Houston: >>Go Tango, Tango!<<.

Armstrong: >>There's kind of light there now...<<

Houston: >>Bravo Tango, Bravo Tango, select Jezebel, Jezebel<<

Armstrong: >>But this is unbelievable!<<

http://www.syti.net/UFOSightings.html Houston: >>Whats there? Mission Control calling Apollo 11...<<

Armstrong: >>These "Babies" are huge, Sir! Enormous! OH MY GOD! You wouldn't believe it! I'm telling you there are other spacecraft out there, Lined up on the far side of the crater edge! They're on the Moon watching us!<<

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_18.htm Q: Did our astronauts really go there?

AC: I know there has been a lot of talk about this. Many of the pictures that you have seen from the surface of the moon were faked, because the actual pictures showed that there was "stuff" all over the place. Yes, they did go, but there was manipulation of the result involved. Morenae has told me that the United States government has 53 of its own disks stationed on the moon. The astronauts were told to shut up and not say anything.
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1142.htm Soviet UFO Secrets

Another of our meetings put us across the table from the Ministry of Defense official who is in charge of the current study. By agreement, we are not yet able to make his name public, but we can give the name of the study, "Thread-3." One illuminating section of those papers contains details of UFO sightings by Soviet cosmonauts. Unlike American astronauts' reluctance to talk about the subject, Soviet references to UFOs were reported from the very beginning, with Yuri Gagarin himself. In the documents, Gagarin is quoted as saying UFOs are real, they fly at incredible speeds and that he would tell more about what he had seen in orbit - provided he be given permission to do so. The documents also provide information on American space encounters, including several references to things seen on the Moon by our astronauts, and how that information was removed from NASA's public files.

5. U.S. astronauts did encounter extra-terrestrial craft and there was a significant sighting made on the moon, all of which have again been cynically covered-up.

Former NASA employee Donna Hare explains that the Apollo astronauts witnessed UFOs on the Moon while they walked on Lunar surface
From about 2:40 into the above conference, former NASA amployee Donna Hare said >>Another incident i knew someone in quarantine with the Apollo Astronauts, he told me that the Apollo Astronauts saw craft on the Moon when they landed, and that is what he told me, and he also was afraid he said that the Astronauts were told to keep this quiet, they are not allowed to talk about it<<.

Anyone can play stupid. But it comes naturally to some.

Nice to see you're refering to yourself... :D
Now you have to ask yourself one question - do i feel lucky? - well, do ya, punk?

falconeyes
09-02-2013, 01:00 PM
[COLOR="Indigo"]If your aliens exist and you continue to promote the theory, you do so like many others without any proof or a shred of hard evidence.
When you can post PROOF of the existence of alien races, especially those said to already be on earth, then that will be worthy and I, like many others, will listen.

I already posted proof, like for example this Reptilian shapeshifter invited by Jesse Ventura TV documentary program team
, but i can also post this Footage of "Grey alien"
Incredible leaked alien footage - Video Dailymotion Following recent developments where the FBI released documents recording supposed UFO crashes in the Roswell area this amazing footage allegedly showing a UFO crash survivor has been leaked onto the internet
CNN Larry King Live - Frankie Rowe mention about the surviving Roswell alien
From about 5:40 into the above interview, Frankie Rowe mention about the surviving Roswell alien.
Alien implants concluded to be of Extraterrestrial origin by some of the best experts
Roswell "alien debris" tested

This forum is (purportedly) a melting pot and magnet for people seeking truth.

You're absolutely RIGHT about that this forum is a melting pot and magnet for people seeking truth, but you are one of those who is trying to destroy it for them with your socalled ridiculous childish nonsense. So do yourself a favor, please grow up, will ya? Do you really want to continue your ridiculous childish nonsense? I'm gonna ask you again... If you want to continue your ridiculous childish nonsense then why don't you just go back to Kindergarten then?

Why do you think Mr Icke spends 8+ hours on his presentations?

Thanks for admitting that David Icke is CREDIBLE and RELIABLE... :cool:
Reptilian manipulation of humanity - by David Icke, Part 1
Reptilian manipulation of humanity - by David Icke, Part 2

wormhole888
15-02-2013, 12:57 PM
have just finished read "the eye of ra" by truman cash .. and to me alot of it makes sense what about anyone else any opinions?

cinder_darkskys
06-03-2013, 11:24 PM
This Image needs to be here. I hope it help's

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1123&pictureid=12652
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U2 - The Fly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_82IYrdM2vU
Your friend Skys

manxboz
07-03-2013, 10:09 AM
This Image needs to be here. I hope it help's

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1123&pictureid=12652
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U2 - The Fly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_82IYrdM2vU
Your friend Skys

Well when people normally post photos etc, they explain what they are about, otherwise it helps as much as an ice cube in Lapland during winter.

cinder_darkskys
07-03-2013, 10:59 AM
Well when people normally post photos etc, they explain what they are about, otherwise it helps as much as an ice cube in Lapland during winter.

David Icke's Official Forums > Main Forums > UFOs / ETs / Anunnaki / Orbs / Crop Circles / Solar System / Space > What aliens should we trust?

I think the image really speak for it self.
Its stands alone in all my arts I have produce my self personal. even with the poor resolution. It speak n writes volumes on it own.

To my mind I seek the truth. It tells me We have something friends. That primarily we don't under stand. I say we because apparently you do not understand. I apparent do understand.

Once is a fluke twice there a possibility 3 times is not random

The Image tells me much more About Christ an what he doing. an about the angels. Always the Angel and there ability's. an a bit about the power of a UFO The resolution a bit fuzzy but I bet I could find match for that Ufo. in this topic. snap's Rock be gone.

The crackle as it rip an burned it way throw the cold sky. I must admit I just when i heard the sound of it explode. I honestly jumped.

It tells me Russia is work on the Rad problem to the best of there ability's. < you can not lie or hide or run away ) Not really surprising to me consider how fast they cleaned up the messy side of porn.

What aliens should we trust? I don't know put one self between a incoming rock an making it go way.... could be considered rather .....well friendly an helpful...... scratch head looks around.... If tat what happen uh a .....

It also tell me the rock my friend might of been sent. an some one some thing said no not going to happen here to day. This image has counter images in other topic post relating other subject. easily tracked down to the point of the order I posted them in

Why what dose the image tell you ?
Your not afraid of the image are u ?
dose bunch of angels with trumpet facing the meteor cloud bother you ?
If you like to see the video I'll post a URL link i be happy to post that. I posted that link in other topic's. The imagery is from that link
Any ways enjoy the image It after all new.

If I explain just 10% of that image I be here for a day maybe longer.

Skys

manxboz
07-03-2013, 12:57 PM
David Icke's Official Forums > Main Forums > UFOs / ETs / Anunnaki / Orbs / Crop Circles / Solar System / Space > What aliens should we trust?

I think the image really speak for it self.
Its stands alone in all my arts I have produce my self personal. even with the poor resolution. It speak n writes volumes on it own.

To my mind I seek the truth. It tells me We have something friends. That primarily we don't under stand. I say we because apparently you do not understand. I apparent do understand.

Once is a fluke twice there a possibility 3 times is not random

The Image tells me much more About Christ an what he doing. an about the angels. Always the Angel and there ability's. an a bit about the power of a UFO The resolution a bit fuzzy but I bet I could find match for that Ufo. in this topic. snap's Rock be gone.

The crackle as it rip an burned it way throw the cold sky. I must admit I just when i heard the sound of it explode. I honestly jumped.

It tells me Russia is work on the Rad problem to the best of there ability's. < you can not lie or hide or run away ) Not really surprising to me consider how fast they cleaned up the messy side of porn.

What aliens should we trust? I don't know put one self between a incoming rock an making it go way.... could be considered rather .....well friendly an helpful...... scratch head looks around.... If tat what happen uh a .....

It also tell me the rock my friend might of been sent. an some one some thing said no not going to happen here to day. This image has counter images in other topic post relating other subject. easily tracked down to the point of the order I posted them in

Why what dose the image tell you ?
Your not afraid of the image are u ?
dose bunch of angels with trumpet facing the meteor cloud bother you ?
If you like to see the video I'll post a URL link i be happy to post that. I posted that link in other topic's. The imagery is from that link
Any ways enjoy the image It after all new.

If I explain just 10% of that image I be here for a day maybe longer.

Skys

I'm sure i'm not the only one who doesn't get it.

The image tells me it is smoke. Nope, not afraid, it is in the past. I see no Angels and no trumpets, I do see a bunch of arrows though that you put in it.

Also what Rad problem? Also it isn't a ufo if you know what it is, now is it?

I and many others do not see what you see in these pictures. You just put arrows in them, change the filters and then just post them with random videos etc. You never explain and never go into any detail at all.

katyah
31-03-2013, 06:06 PM
This is a very good topic indeed.

What's interesting is that in a prophecy about coming World War 3 it's stated that in Europe finally the bearded peoples of the Seven Stars constellation (= Pleiades!) will win this war against the Eastern troops (mainly of the CIS states, obviously) !
(This extreme apocalyptic end times war, with accompanying extreme natural desasters is described in prophecies in numerous details; and it's very probable that it takes place in this year 2013; I'd say from between Easter and June [the latter with higher probability!] on till probably September) And there's another prophecy or 'myth' that Isais = Ishtar = Inanna demands Marduk to throw his spear down to the earth, to 'save their people' (!), after the Eastern troops invaded Europe suddenly. Interesting too, that a contemporary Mayan descendant chief said that the Mayas had a connection to the Pleiadian stars (a star with the name Maia is actually one of the Pleiades!).
Allegedly the Germans (or all Indo-Europeans = Whites?) have got a connection to the star Aldebaran, too (which lies relatively 'near' to the Pleiades).
Isais/Ishtar/Inanna and Marduk were gods of the Sumerians, Babyonians and other ancient cultures, apparently the Anunnaki (not to be confused with the satanic/reptilian Nephilim/Fallen Angels!)
The Zikkurat towers are being regarded as temples of these gods today, but it's possible that these were in deed space stations of these extraterrestrials, too. Interestingly enough the Sumerian word Zikkurat resembles the German word 'Sicherheit' meaning security, and it's told (e.g. in the bible) that the Babylonians built their big Babylonian tower (= Zikkurat Etemenanki) to get nearer to (their) God (but the Jewish God [?] Jahveh didn't want this so he destroyed it).
And in some old Indian Vedas spaceships are described in much detail, anyway.
Result: The Anunnaki and the Pleiadians (plus other non-reptilian humanoids) are much more reliable for me than others. A main problem: Some dark channellers (or even pure charlatans) pretend to be channellers of the side of light (it's always the same thing...), though there are some channellers of the Pleiadians which I find trustworthy (because there were some hardly known or even new scientific things channelled which turned out to be correct later).

This is one main Pleiadians channellings series in which I trust (only the first one of 16 videos quoted here now):

Pleiadians - ET -
Ascension - UFO - Channeling - 2012 - 1 of 16.flv - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPp_DvXBOo4)

Interesting link, I'm gonna take a look at it and see for myself.

I don't agree with that I think the pleiadians, if they do exist, is made up by the government for us to relax and not worry, I believe that after listening and reading about many different alien theories and information, that there are artif. intelligence to be trusted, but, the fact that we think about this is kind of showing that we do not see ourselves as strong enough and in need for help.
Even tho I find it very interesting with Aliens, i believe we should focus more our own species. The biggest challenge is probably to grow and make things better by ourselves.

loveunite
31-03-2013, 07:45 PM
Trust yourself.

There are good and bad within all races, some more evolved but can still be good and bad. Just as humans. Does anyone really know for a fact who to trust.

Just because someone says, these races you can trust... or these races you can't trust, don't fully take their words as fact.

luv evreone
31-03-2013, 08:10 PM
DTA - Don't Trust Aliens ;)

solinvictus
31-03-2013, 08:37 PM
http://slicktiger.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/et_53686645.png?w=630&h=520DTA - Don't Trust Aliens ;)

swamideva
31-03-2013, 10:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Dg3ihbVmA

night_gaunt
01-04-2013, 01:38 AM
DTA - Don't Trust Aliens ;)

Lol, i'll add that to my list of good quotes.

avec
01-04-2013, 06:27 AM
You can't seriously point to a star system, the name of some confederation, or a certain alien physiology and say those are the ones we can trust.

Because if you did so, any other alien could approach you using that name and disguise and you'd roll out the red carpet for them.

Trust should be earned by results and actions regardless of how they look or where they claim to come from or what sweet words they say.

Reptilians are an easy target. Who here wants to cuddle up with a reptilian? Show of hands. Who here wants to snuggle up with a Pleiadean? Ah. So who do you think makes a better deceiver?

The ones people are most likely to trust based on mere words and appearance are the ones we should LEAST trust. And if there are those among them who can be trusted, then the results of their actions will prove that.

night_gaunt
01-04-2013, 05:12 PM
Reptilians are an easy target. Who here wants to cuddle up with a reptilian? Show of hands. Who here wants to snuggle up with a Pleiadean? Ah. So who do you think makes a better deceiver?


Exactly. I've often heard of abductors bringing out Nordic or human-looking aliens when the abductee is frightened. Reptilians might wear masks or hide in the shadows.
Building off our fear of reptilians, any alien species could disguise themselves as reps when they want to manipulate us and then take off the disguise and claim to be helpers.

swamideva
04-04-2013, 01:10 PM
Heres some info from aliens themselves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ues-haPex2M

manxboz
04-04-2013, 02:38 PM
Heres some info from aliens themselves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ues-haPex2M

Allegedly from aliens through humans. The main problem with these channellers is they contradict themselves. The biggest contradiction is the Pleidian folk. When Meier created them, he made himself exclusive, he made two broadcasts which stated that they only spoke and interacted with him and no one else, either accidentally or on purpose. He also wrote that they would soon be leaving Earth for a thousand years and not contact anyone in that time.

It is funny how many Pleiadian supporters forget what Meier actually said about them and then support all these channellers. If Meier is lying then there is no Pleiadians full stop, if he was telling the truth then all these channellers are lying.

swamideva
05-04-2013, 08:02 PM
Allegedly from aliens through humans. The main problem with these channellers is they contradict themselves. The biggest contradiction is the Pleidian folk. When Meier created them, he made himself exclusive, he made two broadcasts which stated that they only spoke and interacted with him and no one else, either accidentally or on purpose. He also wrote that they would soon be leaving Earth for a thousand years and not contact anyone in that time.

It is funny how many Pleiadian supporters forget what Meier actually said about them and then support all these channellers. If Meier is lying then there is no Pleiadians full stop, if he was telling the truth then all these channellers are lying.

Yes allegedly is true. Its not about intellect its about what you resonate with.

Your post seems to be about Meier more than Pleiadians. Your information is vague to say the least.

sh3lly
06-04-2013, 02:05 AM
None of them. Until they personally demonstrate to you they are benevolent. Otherwise, you can never know for sure. All you can really trust is your Higher Self and hope it's all going to be okay in the end.

manxboz
06-04-2013, 07:40 AM
Yes allegedly is true. Its not about intellect its about what you resonate with.

Your post seems to be about Meier more than Pleiadians. Your information is vague to say the least.

Sure resonating is fine, but does not mean it is correct or fact. If someone was brought up in a Muslim country, 99% of the time they were resonate with Muslim doctrines. If you were brought up in a family/culture that feeds everyone who enters your house, you will resonate that feeding everyone who enters your house is the correct way to go. Resonate is works upon your background, what your beliefs are etc it is not a 'metal' detector for truth and fact. If that was the case, then every conspiracy theory and every MSM thoery and every religion is truth and fact.

Meier was the first to talk about the Pleiadians, he then changed the name to Plejarens when scientists stated the Pleiades to be too young and hot to support advanced life.

This is from his (Meier's) 251st Contact on February 3, 1995

Ptaah: Now that we have withdrawn from Earth, I want to reiterate the issue, once again, that neither we Plejarans nor any of the allies within our federation are maintaining any contacts whatsoever with terrestrial human beings; neither in a physical nor a telepathic form.

Do we see what is said there? So no one else will be in contact we the aliens within the 'Federation'. Before I carry on to the crux, i'll just use one more quote from Meier.

Taken from his 232nd Contact on November 17, 1989

Ptaah: "... It still must be clarified that no other human beings or spirit forms or other powers of our allies in the Federation maintain contacts with humans on earth, accidentally, unconsciously or consciously; therefore neither in physical nor telepathic nor in any other form. Claims to the contrary by some human beings of earth, no matter from which region throughout the world, are nothing but conscious or unconscious lies, deceit and fraudulent actions; or they are simply activities to make a profit through dishonesty by liars, deceivers, delusional people, profit seekers, busy-bodies or those who consciously falsify the truth through their own fanaticism and hatred…"

So surely that means that all these GFL people and those maintaining 'contact' with Pleiadians are lying, or that Meier was lying which means that the Pleiadians don't exist thus making the Channellers today lying also.

I hope that isn't as vague now.

swamideva
08-04-2013, 08:14 PM
Sure resonating is fine, but does not mean it is correct or fact. If someone was brought up in a Muslim country, 99% of the time they were resonate with Muslim doctrines. If you were brought up in a family/culture that feeds everyone who enters your house, you will resonate that feeding everyone who enters your house is the correct way to go. Resonate is works upon your background, what your beliefs are etc it is not a 'metal' detector for truth and fact. If that was the case, then every conspiracy theory and every MSM thoery and every religion is truth and fact.

Meier was the first to talk about the Pleiadians, he then changed the name to Plejarens when scientists stated the Pleiades to be too young and hot to support advanced life.

This is from his (Meier's) 251st Contact on February 3, 1995

Ptaah: Now that we have withdrawn from Earth, I want to reiterate the issue, once again, that neither we Plejarans nor any of the allies within our federation are maintaining any contacts whatsoever with terrestrial human beings; neither in a physical nor a telepathic form.

Do we see what is said there? So no one else will be in contact we the aliens within the 'Federation'. Before I carry on to the crux, i'll just use one more quote from Meier.

Taken from his 232nd Contact on November 17, 1989

Ptaah: "... It still must be clarified that no other human beings or spirit forms or other powers of our allies in the Federation maintain contacts with humans on earth, accidentally, unconsciously or consciously; therefore neither in physical nor telepathic nor in any other form. Claims to the contrary by some human beings of earth, no matter from which region throughout the world, are nothing but conscious or unconscious lies, deceit and fraudulent actions; or they are simply activities to make a profit through dishonesty by liars, deceivers, delusional people, profit seekers, busy-bodies or those who consciously falsify the truth through their own fanaticism and hatred…"

So surely that means that all these GFL people and those maintaining 'contact' with Pleiadians are lying, or that Meier was lying which means that the Pleiadians don't exist thus making the Channellers today lying also.

I hope that isn't as vague now.
who cares about Meier i dont. That was history.

There are more Pleiadian channels, Barbara Marciniak (who convinced DI to talk about reptiles). Barbara Hand Clow. Wendy Kennedy. Nora Herold. To name but a few. Even yourself if you opened up and thought out of the box.

Take your pick resonate. Its a principle of harmonics.

You talk as if there is only one version of the truth. We all create our own reality and our own truth. So there are as many versions of the truth as there are people. So resonance is the way every individual lives their lives.

In science Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.

That is unless you have the absolute truth. Your truth is absolute for you in you tiny little closed of universe, where unless everyone thinks like you they are idiots.

1zenith
10-04-2013, 02:45 PM
ANYTHING but the human-earthling Monkey PPl!!!!
MY NEW "found friend" coined that term. Yes , it is quite (bleep).

Nordics, Greys, Star-spirits, Mother God, God, Jesus, Angels, Satan, spirits,
Reptilians (all inclusive). You know the ones deep in the earth, on the moon, IN the moon, on Zeti Reticuli, in Draco, in the 4th and in underground bases etc, and Spirt Guides..........(sorry if i left sum of you BEINGS/spirits out.

CAN ALL BE TRUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::D:D:D