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bicycle
01-04-2008, 01:32 AM
SCIENTISTS have started a fresh excavation at Stonehenge which they hope will confirm once and for all the ancient monument's complete and utter pointlessness.
In the past it was suggested the Henge may have been built as an arena to attract sponsorship from a mobile phone company, or that it could be the top section of a medium sized underground car park.
However, recent advances in carbon dating and DNA testing technologies now point point to it having absolutely no purpose whatsoever.
Henry Brubaker, chief archaeologist at the Institute for Studies, said: "The ancient Britons quarried these giant stones by hand, dragged them hundreds of miles from Wales, lifted them into place, stared at them for bit, then wandered off and never came back.
"I know they didn't have telly, but you would have thought they'd have something better to do.
"At least the Great Wall of China is actually a wall, and the Pyramids have mummies inside them.
"This is just some Welsh rocks thrown up in the middle of nowhere for no bloody reason whatsoever. It does my fucking head in.
"And even if they did use it for sacrificing badgers or worshipping the moon - so what?"
He added: "If I have to watch one more scraggy hippy dancing round here at solstice, I swear to God I will get a JCB and plough the whole lot into the ground."
Henry Brubaker has no business being an archeologist if all he can come up with is that totally uninspiring conclusion - unless it was all tongue in cheek?
MUCH more exciting is this explanation:
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/heritage/story/0,,2269815,00.html
lookfar
01-04-2008, 02:34 PM
Henry Brubaker has no business being an archeologist if all he can come up with is that totally uninspiring conclusion - unless it was all tongue in cheek?
MUCH more exciting is this explanation:
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/art/heritage/story/0,,2269815,00.html
I totally agree mari. I also saw this yesterday on the bbc site & was gonna make a post about it. Thanks bicycle for saving me the trouble :)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7322134.stm
chattanova
01-04-2008, 04:18 PM
Is it true that Stonehenge became removed from where it originally was back in 1920 etc.:confused:
How They Rebuilt Stonehenge
For decades the official Stonehenge guidebooks have been full of fascinating facts and figures and theories surrounding the world's greatest prehistoric monument. What the glossy brochures do not mention, however, is the systematic rebuilding of the 4,000 year old stone circle throughout the 20th Century.
This is one of the dark secrets of history archaeologists don't talk about: The day they had the builders in at Stonehenge to recreate the most famous ancient monument in Britain as they thought it ought to look.
http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/4/4/1/f_stone1m_e3d71c4.jpg
This picture shows workers on the site in 1901 in a restoration which caused outrage at the time but which is rarely referred to in official guidebooks. For it means that Stonehenge, jewel in the crown of Britain's heritage industry, is not all it seems. Much of what the ancient site's millions of visitors see in fact dates back less than 50 years.
From 1901 to 1964, the majority of the stone circle was restored in a series of makeovers which have left it, in the words of one archaeologist, as 'a product of the 20th century heritage industry'. But the information is markedly absent from the guidebooks and info-phones used by tourists at the site. Coming in the wake of the news that the nearby Avebury stone circle was almost totally rebuilt in the 1920s, the revelation about Stonehenge has caused embarrassment among archaelogists. English Heritage, the guardian of the monument, is to rewrite the official guide, which dismisses the Henge's recent history in a few words. Dave Batchelor, English Heritage's senior archaeologist said he would personally rewrite the official guide. 'The detail was dropped in the Sixties', he admitted. 'But times have changed and we now believe this is an important piece of the Stonehenge story and must be told'.
Cambridge University archeological archivist and leading Stonehenge author Christopher Chippindale admitted: 'Not much of what we see at Stonehenge hasn't been touched in some way'. And historical research student Brian Edwards, who recently revealed that the nearby Avebury Monument had been totally rebuilt, has found rare pictures of Stonehenge being restored. He said: 'It has been as if Stonehenge had been historically cleansed'. 'For too long people have been kept in the dark over the Stonehenge restoration work. I am astonished by how few people know about it. It is wonderful the guide book is going to tell the full story in the future.'
A million visitors a year are awe-struck as they look back in time into another age and marvel at the primitive technology and muscle-power which must have been employed transporting the huge monoliths and raising them on Salisbury Plain. They gasp as they are told about this strangely spiritual site.... mankind's first computer, its standing stones and precise lintels, lining up magically and mysteriously with the heavens above and the solstice suns.
But now, as if to head off a potential great archaeological controversy - and following interest displayed by historical researcher Brian Edwards and a local newspaper, the brochures will be re-written, to include the 'forgotten years'. The years when teams of navvies sat aboard the greatest cranes in the British Empire to hoist stones upright; drag leaning trilithons into position, replace fallen lintels which once sat atop the huge sarsens. As Mr Edwards - the erstwhile enfant terrible of British archaeology following revelations that nearby Avebury was a total 20s and 30s rebuild by marmalade millionaire Alexander Keiller - says: 'What we have been looking at is a 20th Century landscape, which is reminiscent of what Stonehenge MIGHT have been like thousands of years ago. It has been created by the heritage industry and is NOT the creation of prehistoric people. What we saw at the Millennium is less than 50 years old.'
In archaeological terms the re-writing of the guidebooks is dynamite. English Heritage run Stonehenge on behalf of the nation, and an English Heritage insider revealed: 'Dark forces were at work in the 70s, when a decision was taken to drop the information about the restorations Now that is about to change.'
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The Restoration and Rebuild
The first restoration of Stonehenge was launched 100 years ago this year.
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/4/4/1/f_stone5m_3be504a.gif
And, in 1901, as the builders went to work, The Times letters column was full of bucolic missives of complaint. But the first stage of 'restoration' thundered ahead regardless and the style guru of the day, John Ruskin, released the maxim which was to outlive him.... 'Restoration is a lie,' he stormed. Nevertheless the Stonehenge makeover was to gather momentum and more work was carried out in 1919, 1920, 1958, 1959 and 1964. Christopher Chippindale, curator at the Cambridge University Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology and Anthropology, and author of Stonehenge Complete, admits: 'Nearly all the stones have been moved in some way and are standing in concrete.'
A stone was straightened and set in concrete in 1901, six further stones in 1919 and 1920, three more in 1959 and four in 1964. There was also the excavation of the Altar stone and re-erection of the Trilithon in 1958.
The guide book 'Stonehenge and Neighbouring Monuments' , and the audio tour of the Henge omit any comprehensive mention of the rebuilding in the 20th Century. Only on page 18 is there a slight reference...'A number of the leaning and fallen stones have been straightened and re-erected.' But even that official guide book does contain clues to the large scale restoration, which was not deemed worth a full entry.
http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/4/4/1/f_stone2m_a8b671e.jpg
Why does John Constable's 1835 painting of the Henge on pages 18 and 19 look so vastly different from the latter-day pristine photograph across pages 28 and 29? REASON: A lot of restoration work had taken place in between the two images being recorded. And, during long hot summers it would be possible - if one could get near to the stones - to see the turf peeling back to reveal the concrete boots into which the majority of the stones are now set. A dead give-away, but difficult to spot now as proximity to the Henge is limited.
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/4/4/1/f_stone6m_07d890e.gif
Our pictures clearly show the rebuilding in progress. Some were discovered by Mr Chippendale and were used in a revised edition of his book. Many of those have since been lost. Others were found by Mr Edwards who unearthed guide books from the time when Stonehenge was not ashamed of its past and featured photographs and stories of the resorations.
'The news is sensational,' said Mr Edwards, a decorate student at the University of the West of England. 'Once I realised how much work had been carried out, I was amazed to discover that practically no-one outside of the henge know of its reconstruction in the last 100 years. I have always thought that if people are bothering to make a trip to Stonehenge, from home or abroad, then the least they should expect is a true story.'
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicstonehenge.htm
Ive posted on this before and when i walked up to the stones bacl in 1999 fr the 1st time i noticed the concrete looking squared off base to some of the stones and wondered at the time what was going on there.Stonehenge never appealed to me i prefer avebury i feel it is more natural ? or is there a hidde nstroy there as well . :D
siscid
01-04-2008, 10:56 PM
So all those earth energies don't come from Stonehenge then? Darn..
lookfar
02-04-2008, 01:51 AM
So all those earth energies don't come from Stonehenge then? Darn..
I dunno siscid, I've been inside & was absolutely blown away by the energy I felt there. It was about 15 years ago now (before I was heavily into all this stuff) & I can still recall the immense power, it was amazing!:D
Although I also agree with 2013 about Avebury :)
It was also on the news pretty recently i.e. the past month or so That Silbury Hill was undergoing major restoation work, as it was feared that it would collapse in, due to the amount of tunnels and digging that had been carried out in the past to discover how it was built, and looking for treasure, relics etc. This was quite well documented on TV etc. but I must admit this is the first time I've heard of the work done at Stonehenge. It's one of the sites I haven't managed to see in the UK, and now I feel a bit 'cheated' and wonder if it is worth visiting at all. I suppose that is a personal descision for me to decide. I wonder what the real reason for this work being done was?
I think I preferred Avebury to Stonehenge, too. I felt one of the rocks, in a reasonably chill night, and it was no foolin' warm!
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classic :D
I think I preferred Avebury to Stonehenge, too. I felt one of the rocks, in a reasonably chill night, and it was no foolin' warm!
And they have more about them than Stonehenge the rocks display different characters faces depending on where you view them from .The avebury sphinx , i cant find any online images but the Egyptian looking half face by the red lion pub that when mirrored makes a complete sphinx :D
lookfar
02-04-2008, 10:50 PM
And they have more about them than Stonehenge the rocks display different characters faces depending on where you view them from .The avebury sphinx , i cant find any online images but the Egyptian looking half face by the red lion pub that when mirrored makes a complete sphinx :D
The Avebury stones definitely have more about them, the warmness is one aspect, but I also love seeing all the different faces too. They seem to go from animal like (monkey), some human, right through to alien space-like faces, it's amazing:cool: Also not forgetting the famous Elvis stone in the Avenue, lol!:D
The stones used in the West Kennett Longbarrow also have lots of faces in them too.
Yeh its like avebury contains the seed for all of creation manifest in living rock , as above so below .i think i read a book by grace cook , well i did read it i mena i think she channelled something similar to do with avebury being the place where physical matter was manifest for the first time .The site being set out like fallopian tubes feminine birth palce etc .Before this apparently we existed in an ethereal form not quiet solid .The site is also connected to apollo thru his mother again related to birth rites if i find a link ill post it :D apologies to stonehenge for usurping the thread :o
lookfar
02-04-2008, 11:16 PM
Yeh its like avebury contains the seed for all of creation manifest in living rock , as above so below .i think i read a book by grace cook , well i did read it i mena i think she channelled something similar to do with avebury being the place where physical matter was manifest for the first time .The site being set out like fallopian tubes feminine birth palce etc .Before this apparently we existed in an ethereal form not quiet solid .The site is also connected to apollo thru his mother again related to birth rites if i find a link ill post it :D apologies to stonehenge for usurping the thread :o
Ah cool, I'd like to see that link if you can find it please :) I watched Gridkeepers vid a while back on the Holy Grail Vortex (here (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5558607408592070612&q=gridkeeper&total=192&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2)) & there's a lady with him who is explaining lots about the area. Well worth a watch imo.
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grace cook book link
heres an article on avebury Stonehenge concerning origins
http://www.elfinspell.com/TimbsStonehenge.html
this piece caught my eye cant quiet work it out
A Correspondent of Notes and Queries, No. 304, remarks: “The stones have not been quarried at all, being boulders collected from the Downs. It is supposed by eminent geologists that they belong to the tertiary formation, and that the strata in which they were embedded (represented in the Isle of Wight) have been swept away by some great catastrophe. The outer circle probably contained thirty-eight stones, of which seventeen are standing; and the number of their lintels in the original position is about seven or eight. Of the large trilithons only two are now complete.”
most googled links concerning Apollo and his mothers links to avebury go on to talk about Stonehenge more . Perhaps it was a book i read and not an online article :D
vaoresagi_iaida
02-04-2008, 11:28 PM
I have a big chunk of Avesbury serpent stone in my hearth (don't tell anyone). :o
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6616929257267954322
this makes sense without the need for levitation . :D
Man Moves Huge Blocks! - YouTube
heres you tube version if google vid dont work
lookfar
02-04-2008, 11:39 PM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Light-Britain-ancient-spiritual-centres/dp/0854870563
grace cook book link
heres an article on avebury Stonehenge concerning origins
http://www.elfinspell.com/TimbsStonehenge.html
this piece caught my eye cant quiet work it out
A Correspondent of Notes and Queries, No. 304, remarks: “The stones have not been quarried at all, being boulders collected from the Downs. It is supposed by eminent geologists that they belong to the tertiary formation, and that the strata in which they were embedded (represented in the Isle of Wight) have been swept away by some great catastrophe. The outer circle probably contained thirty-eight stones, of which seventeen are standing; and the number of their lintels in the original position is about seven or eight. Of the large trilithons only two are now complete.”
most googled links concerning Apollo and his mothers links to avebury go on to talk about Stonehenge more . Perhaps it was a book i read and not an online article :D
Great stuff, thanks for those links honey, I've saved it in favourites to look at later in more detail & gonna order the book... :)
lookfar
02-04-2008, 11:40 PM
I have a big chunk of Avesbury serpent stone in my hearth (don't tell anyone). :o
:eek::D Not saying a word, but how the hell did you get it....????:confused:
synchronicity or what lol
http://www.cainer.com/
What the ancients had in mind
We may not know exactly when the ancients made Stonehenge. We do know that they made it with heavenly bodies in mind. In particular they were interested in the cycles of the Sun. The daily rising and setting. The twice-yearly 'shift in direction'. The times of greatest elevation. It's tempting to wonder what they would have made of the 'giant Tsunami' that recently rolled across the solar surface. It's a safe bet though, that they would have read a lot into it. Each time the sun releases a new wave of energy, new possibilities present themselves in all our lives.
lookfar
02-04-2008, 11:43 PM
synchronicity or what lol
http://www.cainer.com/
What the ancients had in mind
We may not know exactly when the ancients made Stonehenge. We do know that they made it with heavenly bodies in mind. In particular they were interested in the cycles of the Sun. The daily rising and setting. The twice-yearly 'shift in direction'. The times of greatest elevation. It's tempting to wonder what they would have made of the 'giant Tsunami' that recently rolled across the solar surface. It's a safe bet though, that they would have read a lot into it. Each time the sun releases a new wave of energy, new possibilities present themselves in all our lives.
LOL, yeah I read that about half hour ago too :D I check Cainer daily, he's spookily accurate a lot of the time!!:)
I have a big chunk of Avesbury serpent stone in my hearth (don't tell anyone). :o
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