Careers- waste of time?

[lottie]

Hi Guys- thought i'd consult the old wise ones on a dilemma im currently experiencing!!
My career recently went pear-shaped after i found out all this stuff over the last year- i realised a career in nursing was not for me due to the constant pushing of rules,regs,constaints,'be a robot' attitude and obviously i really dont agree with the whole western medicine thing either- so i threw the towel in but was left with no qualifications except in care/nursing/support work etc, i feel very lost- i have had to go get a job doing care work in a home for the elderly where im on a crap wage - just enough to pay the bills- but i have also been commended on my standards of work and have been given the opportunity to 'go up the ladder' in the place i work but it will take a good few years. my point being- i have lost the zest for a career etc as i really dont want to be part of 'the slavery system' and i also think on to how it will be in the future- like the whole 2012 thing and the nwo thing etc and think to myself- is it really worth getting a 'career'? i cant really find anything im happy doing, i'd just like to 'not work' but still have my house-grow some veg, have some chickens etc etc- and live peacefully, exchanging a bag of carrotts for a bottle of milk from the people next door - if you know what i mean!! i just wish we could be detatched from the whole thing- i dont want to be part of it anymore- but i feel trapped in it- i have no choice- i mean the way i described it to a friend is that....before you know all this stuff you create a life for yourself but then when you realise all this stuff- you suddenly find you have a life you created before you knew all this stuff and you are trapped in it a bit- like i can hear the sound of people saying- well just up and leave if you arn't happy.... but i cant- i have a partner- a house a car- a family animals etc etc to think about and they dont feel the same as me!! i don't know what to do- sometimes i dont want to be here at all- life is SO hard sometimes- im trapped in servitude to the state, if i dont work 40hrs a week i cant keep a roof over my head and food on the table, so when i am home im like a zombie- tired and irritated- unhappy about work, also i feel like i have to be 'someone else' at work- like a robot- i have to be 'professional' etc etc - i cant express who i really am or they'd all freak out- despite the fact that im still good at my job-what ever my beliefs, so it takes me ages to wind down and become 'me' again- and by which time i gotta go back to work again!! Is any of it worth it? as far as i can see the shit is gonna hit the fan in the next few years- everythings gonna be turned on its head and nothing will ever be the same again- so whats the point?? maybe the answer is only within myself- maybe i just wanted to share my feelings- i dunno- i would welcome any advice though- i dont speak to many people who understand all this stuff so not much input to it all!!

[turquoisefyre]

Tricky indeed...

The only thing I might suggest is for you to do some soul-searching and discouver what it is you really want, and then manifest it. I know floks talk about it in this forum elswhere. You could end up being very surprised you know! (I know it sounds simple, but sometimes it really IS that simple!)
:)

[infinitely free]

Hi,

well, just as David says - just listen to you heart!
What does it tell you?
Go for it!

I have! It works ;)

[_invisibleplane_]

I feel what you are saying, I guess all we can do is choose what we should do with current circumstances, and adapt as things change(ie leaving to the country/forests/farm), of course not to forget that we can also help implement forms of change

the farm life is also a dream of mine, set up some wind turbine/solar panels+food+hemp for other resources..what else do ya need?...an attainable goal

[lookfar]

Hi lottie

I'm sorry to hear that you're in this predicament, but I can totally relate to it. I've felt the same for quite a while now & since 'waking up' it's just made it 100 times worse!:( I have a mortgage, a 9-5 job & a son in full time school & there doesn't seem to be a way out at the moment, which is really depressing. I hate being a slave to the system but can't see a way out at the moment.

However, I'm sort of getting my head around just continuing to learn about stuff & staying positive until I feel I'm in a position to do something life-changing (but I'm hoping that's not gonna take too long!).

You're idea of being self sufficient sounds idyllic & it's also a dream of mine (& have always wanted chickens too :) ). Although you'd still need to pay some bills & the cost of arable land in the UK is extortionate to be able to do that. Perhaps if there was somewhere which had the land but could provide accommodation in exchange for work / help around the place, sort of community like it might be a bit easier, I don't know?

Anyway, sorry I can't be of much help in solving your problem, but just wanted to let you know that you are not alone in your situation.

Be interesting to see what answers you get back on this...

Love & light.

[thoth]

I am going through some of the same things right now. I am currently pursuing my undergrad degree, and my goal is to get into grad school through this scholars program I am currently involved with. Although pursuing a PhD sounds great, the idea of being indoctrinated while kissing ass while I probably know more about specific aspects of the world than most academia do, does not. I know that I have to compromise basically my beliefs in just about every way. Whats fucked up is that there are programs that study eastern philosphical concepts, but its along the lines of psychology, parapsychology, quantum physics, and anomolous research. The only problem is that the programs are mostly Ivy league schools and the amount of info released to or beneficial to the public is near to nada. What I really want to do is spend time with my daughter and learn more about the world and spirituality. I want to be able to talk with my daughter about these things and I want to be able to meditate for at least 2 hours a day everyday without having to worry about a test, which is based on indoctrination, or paying bills which are illusionary concepts which we are creating. Most of the people on campus are assholes, and they love it. Dumb as shit, but swear they know everything! Most of them have never experience real hardships in life. The point is, we are connected and this IS an illusion, so when you find your way, it will happen. Just let it happen. I am at a crossroads myself and I cannot even tell you where I will be and what I will be doing next year, and I am pretty stable right now as far as survival. But I leave it open on purpose, so I don't shut out other possibilities.

[tinmenace]

I feel the same way. I like working (although I'm quite tired now, and need a sabbatical), but I feel also very jaded about working for an institution that goes against everything I believe in, and I have to force myself to think positive and good thoughts before going to the office every morning.

He's the thing though...we're all EXACTLY where we need to be right now, and even though we're hating it, we have to remember that it all happens for a reason. When it is time to move on, we will.

I find it interesting that everyone says they feel worse about their jobs since realizing the lie we live. I've felt the same way, but I'm feeling it a whole lot stronger here lately. Like in the last month or so. Almost like something massive is about to happen. Does anyone else feel the same thing?

[lookfar]

Hi there

Yeah I have also felt this more strongly over the last month or maybe a bit more. It's almost forcing me to the stage where I'm gonna have to do something about it, but still not sure what yet?

I've wanted to do something else for a while now, but definitely feeling it more strongly recently.

[2013]

You are a healer because of your choice of occupation and the job you have gone into now .My feeling was that maybe you could pursue some form of natural remedy type subject homeopathy or accupuncture etc and slowly get involved in that you would be making a worthwile contribution then .It seems u have a yearning towards helping people and this way u could contribute .Plus these type of therapys pay very well as well .Watchbell house is one of the places on the island that provides these services .There is a real need now for people to awaken in all walks of life and find the truth in what they do .Massage aromatherapy rieki etc its all relevant and the practitioners really interact with the patients and this contributes greatly to the healing process. you feel like a person not just a statistic in a factory process .To many administrators in the hospital system , by design to , we are just a product now .But you could by your lifes work make a difference really your choices so far indicate that so have a think about it , u can train part time i think and slowly build what it is u want .It may take time but it would b better than thinking the same in 5 or 10 years from now(2012 may come and go with or without huge changes so it cant hurt to carry on with a plan , maybe we wont need em but who knows ) and still being in the same place .Knowing u have made a difference would b a tremendous help and healing to you 2 .Hope this helps :D

[2013]

i have posted this b4 but its worth repeating
:D
Where are you living? What are you doing? What are your relationships?

Are you in right relation? Where is your water?

Know your garden. It is time to speak your Truth.

Create your community. Be good to each other.

And do not look outside yourself for the leader.

Then he clasped his hands together, smiled, and said, `This could be a good time! There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold on to the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart and will suffer greatly. Know the river has its destination. The elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water. And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate. At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally. Least of all, ourselves. For the moment that we do, our spiritual growth and journey comes to a halt. The time of the lone wolf is over. Gather yourselves! Banish the word struggle from your attitude and your vocabulary. All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration.

`We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.`

Oraibi, Arizona Hopi Nation

[tinmenace]

Right! Tasks that I used to find fun and challenging don't even make sense to me anymore. I stare at the work and think "omg, am I going crazy?? I can't understand this...". I can't focus (don't wanna), I'm SO restless and even though I didn't participate in a thread about a month ago concerning dreams...I'd been dreaming about y'all also. It was pretty intense and now it's quiet again.

There is definitely a change in energy. Do you feel it also?

[mcmenek1]

Hi lottie,

I can sympathise with your situation, but remember you have one huge advantage on your side........you know whats really going on in this world, so you have a head start on the masses who are locked into the false reality that’s been created for them by “The Powers That Be” the masses that are still asleep are riding on a runaway train that’s heading for the buffers big time!!........I’ve stepped off that train and by the sounds of it you have to.

You just have to bide your time until things come to a head “The Powers That Be” are setting the masses up for a huge fall in there desperation to create as much fear as possible in the lead up to 2012, you just have to learn to see through the lies, keep a level head and stay out of fear.

The Mayans predicted the collapse of the Technological civilisation and I can see this happening.......the world we live in is going to be so different to what we are used to in the years to come I’m sure opportunities will come your way that you never dreamed of......so please lottie hang in there, try to cut your ties to the system but don’t worry if you can’t its all going to go tits up! anyway. There are lots of people out there in the same situation as your self, and your vibration will eventually connect you to those people and situations that will be on your wave length.........you won’t have long to wait either because time is collapsing so the life that you desire may closer than you think!.......just hang in there and take care! ........:)



Love
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Peace































:)

[timestop24]

Hi lottie,

I can sympathise with your situation, but remember you have one huge advantage on your side........you know whats really going on in this world, so you have a head start on the masses who are locked into the false reality that’s been created for them by “The Powers That Be” the masses that are still asleep are riding on a runaway train that’s heading for the buffers big time!!........I’ve stepped off that train and by the sounds of it you have to.

You just have to bide your time until things come to a head “The Powers That Be” are setting the masses up for a huge fall in there desperation to create as much fear as possible in the lead up to 2012, you just have to learn to see through the lies, keep a level head and stay out of fear.

The Mayans predicted the collapse of the Technological civilisation and I can see this happening.......the world we live in is going to be so different to what we are used to in the years to come I’m sure opportunities will come your way that you never dreamed of......so please lottie hang in there, try to cut your ties to the system but don’t worry if you can’t its all going to go tits up! anyway. There are lots of people out there in the same situation as your self, and your vibration will eventually connect you to those people and situations that will be on your wave length.........you won’t have long to wait either because time is collapsing so the life that you desire may closer than you think!.......just hang in there and take care! ........:)



Love
&
Peace































:)

Hope what you say is true. I really do. :)

[timestop24]

To me at least, careers seem to be a waste of time. Just hoping the matrix will implode soon. I can't stand anymore of the negativity in this world...

[lottie]

hey guys- what a response!! wow!! thankyou all so much!! i was so upset yesterday- tears n all (and it takes a lot to make me cry these days) and i wrote that thread before going off to do the nightshift- ive been there all night- just got home to find such lovely words of advice etc etc - how sweet of you all!! Basically (when im not hysterical and at the end of my tether!!) i know im stuck in 'it'- i just get so frustrated about it and confused and isolated sometimes, i really wish we could all get together and socialise!! mcmenek1- thats how i feel about the future- from my own conclusions, its just very frustrating when you wake up to it and see what you've entrapped yourself in! timestop24-i agree!! 2013- hi- i know of watchbell house- i used to see a chiropractor there!! i like the idea of doing something like massage or aromatherapy but when looked into it- the courses at college are very expensive- i cant afford the fees!!but thanks for the advice!! im hoping we will get to a point when we dont need qualifications to prove you are competant to do something! Lookfar i know exactly how you feel- prehaps we should live together, i'll collect the eggs- you milk the cow!!:D lol!!!
Thoth- thast exactly how i felt at uni- i was constantly being indoctrinated and i could see it too clearly! and to have to sit through lectures about human anatomy- when you are sat there thinking 'it's a f**king hologram' in my head and 'illness is a belief' etc etc - didnt support my career as a nurse- lol!!! but i do still 'care'!! thats the trouble- when you work in residential homes etc- they are almost always run by arseholes who drive around in BMW's but dont provide enough staff and dont pay well and the residents suffer for it- i wanted to help change this too- but i dont want to work for someone else i want to own it but how can i get £750,000???LOL it is beyond my comprehension why anyone would want to own/buy/run a residential care home if they dont actually give a shit about people!! like my bosses dont- they are typical money making tight arses only in it for profit!!
anyway- thankyou all so much- i really appreciate you all being there to help!! im off to bed- very tired - been up 28hrs now!! gotta go find 'me'!!!LOL

[lottie]

ps; lookfar where are you in uk? i know south but im south too- also 2013- where are you? on the island? the closest likeminded person ive found is norfolk!! before that it was the netherlands and before that canada!! :D

[pollock]

There is definitely a change in energy. Do you feel it also?

Oh yes, indeed!

F

[2013]

ps; lookfar where are you in uk? i know south but im south too- also 2013- where are you? on the island? the closest likeminded person ive found is norfolk!! before that it was the netherlands and before that canada!! :D

hi yes im on the island ive p m 'd u with a bit more indepth info by the way does iow mean we are twice as in debt as the rest of the country lol i owe double u :D

[lookfar]

ps; lookfar where are you in uk? i know south but im south too- also 2013- where are you? on the island? the closest likeminded person ive found is norfolk!! before that it was the netherlands and before that canada!! :D

Hi lottie

Well it seems that you're gradually finding more likeminded people a bit closer to home now:) Have PM'd you with more info. Let's go get those chickens girl, LOL!! :D

[mcmenek1]

ps; lookfar where are you in uk? i know south but im south too- also 2013- where are you? on the island? the closest likeminded person ive found is norfolk!! before that it was the netherlands and before that canada!! :D

Hi lottie,

It’s a small world......I also live in the south.....I’ve noticed there are quite a few people on the forum from the south.......I told you!.... those vibrations are starting to work their magic.........:)

Love
&
Peace

[phoenixchilde]

I would not turn your back on the idea of a career just because one career didn't work out for you. I personally think it's a great idea to pursue a career instead of just a McJob. The benefits include job security, higher self esteem, financial security, and the opportunity for someone with an open mind to be in a position of important within a company, as opposed to all the robots that are in their now. What do you think the NWO fears most? People like us in positions of power. That's their greatest threat.

That being said, there are certainly negative aspects of being career minded. Unfortunately, I can not say that I've been entirely immune to them. In many companies, your bosses and co-workers will try to pressure you into a more expensive and lavish lifestyle to further promote your dependancy on them and your paycheck. One of my previous bosses embodied this by telling a new employee that he likes it when his employees buy new things. There's also the tendency of people to forget the real world in leiu(sp) of their careers. Depending on your field, it's either easy or hard to fight this one.

Don't be a workaholic, and don't live to work. That's my advice.

[seamus]

There has been talk of different ones wanting to start up some kind of alternative community. You might try having a look at the intentional communities directory to find out if there is one in your area. That is, if communal living is to your liking. I think it's great. it's just the hegemony and austerity and dogma and stuff of the present one I'm not into ;)

Lookin' like tuesday will be freedom day...

s

[phoenixchilde]

Yo, communal living just sounds like a cult. You can't be an individual with communal living. Might as well join the military if you want to share bunks with strangers.

[seamus]

Well, my friend, it seems you have a set opinion. Communal living doesn't have to mean you share bunks. It could be set up like a co-op where everyone has their own sleeping/private area, and then you ahve multiple public spaces, and then you have large rooms for kitchen, dining, gathering rooms for whatever reason, maybe group meditation, maybe discussions on different topics. You could even have little satellite cottages (or big ones if you're flush) and just come to the main room for specific reasons, like reiki class or whatever.

I don't know how you could call a secular intentional community based on organic farming a cult, though...

People are social creatures, but development is individual. We need both. That's why i'm bailing out on the cult. No individual development, coupled with the fact that they worship a control freak god and his nonexistent "son" in heaven... No compelling reason for me to stay.

Cheers,
s

[julzzrocks]

This is often on my mind. I'm only fifteen years old and still in high school...I've always dreamt of an alternative lifestyle, one that I could share with a partner, like on an island, living in harmony with all things, reverting back to something more natural and instinctive...but then I think I'm far too conditioned. We all are. Perhaps something in between, perhaps one extreme or the other. I just hope I never give in, although I don't see how I would after I've already opened my eyes, so to speak. For the time being I try to make the most of it, it's not all so bad, at all. It can be a whole lot of "doublethink" sometimes. Sorry I'm being so vague, does anyone follow?

[thebeach2002]

hi sorry you feel so down, i am the same myself, however im lucky as my wife is feeling the same as me, we have a 3 month old baby , however its taken me until my mid 40s to awaken , i feel lost, frustrated but also feeling positive that i am not alone , this forum is just the start, we can all change this world to the world we want, but we must unite and not conform or be controlled anymore, try to talk to your partner and see if they can understand,if they dont there are many of us out here that do , your in a loving profession without people likeyou the world would be a poorer place,
can you not go part time and then have some you time, time to discover who you are what you want, i was the same i was working 6 days a week on my day off i was so unhappy thinking of the next week, ive cut back to 4 days a week, im strugglingwith money but money is not the be all and end all.
what keeps me going is, no MATTER HOW BAD THINGS GET IN THIS EARTHLY EXISTENCE , THIS SPELL IS NOT FOREVER,
keep strong , find you and be true to youself,if your not true to you then you cant be true to those you love, and if they love you they will want you to be happy
if you need a good old chat your more than welcome to pm me,or you can email me
take care

[auron]

Hi Lottie :)

I can totally relate to you with the way your being treated at work. Each one of us on the path have to go through all kinds of stuff like this. It is necessary i believe, because when this world eventually goes totally pear shaped, there will be mass panic with the general population. These people will need help. Thats when people like ourselves all around the world will all know whats going on, and we will be able to heal with love where there is mass fear.

Keep up the good work Lottie! It's going to be people just like you that will heal the world, when the time comes.

Love Auron :)

[2503]

I have been self employed for a year now and it is great. I can choose my own hours, although the Mrs wants a new house so at the moment she is choosing my hours, lol. I recommend being self employed to anyone as it gives you so much freedom. Of course you need to find out something that you enjoy doing, i work in the Financial Services Industry so my work is mainly talking with clients and companies, but i like it. Also I now pay less tax and NI. Self Employed is the way to go.

[lottie]

Thanks for your words of support guys, im not feeling as bad as back then- that was a bad day to say the least!! thought i'd update you though!! i walked out of the job in the care home- i told them to stuff it - i was sick of their sloppy standards and told them i wouldnt let my mother stay in there if they paid me!! They were a little shocked but i felt so good to tell them how i felt- i was very frank!! So then ive been jobless for a 6weeks but just landed a great job promoting recycling for the council- and its excellent money but sad thing is its only temporary but what was weird is that i always say these things happen for a reason and as a result of this new job i started Tues and that 1st day i met a couple ( i was doing house calls) who began quoting David Icke and we got chatting about that-and i said i had read many of his books and they also mentioned Gregg Braden and i was dumbfounded since im reading his book at the moment- we got talking about chemtrails and chips etc and they asked me to take their email address and send them the info about chemtrails and RFID chips....so what a coincidence- i'd say even if nothing signiificant happens for the rest of my temp contract then i'd say at least ive reached 2 people and possibly made great contacts as they said they have many contacts too!! So alls well at 'Lottie Towers' at the moment- although im not sure how long that will last- i have to re-evaluate my career or at least find something im happy doing- we'll see where this job leads me!!
Thanks for the replies anyway- its so sweet and heartwarming to receive such kind words especially when you are feeling low!! :)
Take Care Y'all!!!! ;)

[oneofmany]

How far along are you in your qualifications? because if it won't take too long to finish, then I suggest you do it. I've been where you are years ago, and I saw now way out of my hole, but the things you are worrying about at the end of the day, are just material things. I lost a house that I owed $12, 000 on, which to me at the time, was two months wages, and every possession that was in it, and I would gladly give it all up again, to become the person that I am now.

The things you seem to be worried about are all materialistic, and you can afford to lose, but the thing you cannot afford to lose, is that feeling in your soul, that tells you that you are living a lie by sucking the teet of the system. Debt is a soulkiller, as well as a need for material things, and when you let that go and don't care what wrath the system brings upon you, Then you will be free from the yoke of what's bothering you.

If your partner doesn't want to be with you in your life journey, then to the curb with him, because he is only holding you back from your inner peace. Soulmates will ride the same path and endure all in the name of love. If he's not willing to ride a bumpy ride, then what can I say? In the end, it's your own decision, and good luck with it, but I just want you to add up all the aspects of your life, see what's best for yourself, and then make your LIFEPLAY. Because this is just a game at the end of proceedings, and you can't take it all too seriously. Do what's best for YOU!!!

[auron]

Hope it all goes well for you Lottie! Take care.

Love Auron :)

[andreadoria]

I find it interesting that everyone says they feel worse about their jobs since realizing the lie we live. I've felt the same way, but I'm feeling it a whole lot stronger here lately. Like in the last month or so. Almost like something massive is about to happen. Does anyone else feel the same thing?

Oh yeah i feel it as i've never did before! And i understand also the fact about the career. I wanna a world without money. No Money = No Wars - No Money = No Fights - No Money = No Traps, No Money = No Lies. :)

[notaslave]

Like others have said it is time to do some soul searching. It is impossible to force yourself to continually do something you do not want to do. The way I see it, married, family, whatever, your first duty is to yourself cos you arent gonna be any good to anyone else if you arent happy.

Sometimes when we make big changes in our lifestyle it seems scarey and you wonder if you made the right decision. There is no such thing, in my opinion, as a wrong decision, there may be a period of upheaval but in the end everything works out fine.

Follow your heart and the rest will take care of itself.

Good luck.

[lottie]

Cheers you guys!! you're the best!! :)

I hear what you are all saying- im taking into consideration all points etc....at moment- just going with flow!!

Tired of fighting the system, tired of being part of it, tired of small minds, tired of being tired... cant be arsed to even worry about it anymore- im at the mercy of the universe- what will be will be i suppose!! :rolleyes:
trying to use the LOA thing and ive put out there what i want and i got to let the universe do the rest and not worry about 'how' it'll manifest- but just let it happen....

Take Care you lovely lot! I love you all so much!! :)

[auron]

Cheers you guys!! you're the best!! :)

I hear what you are all saying- im taking into consideration all points etc....at moment- just going with flow!!

Tired of fighting the system, tired of being part of it, tired of small minds, tired of being tired... cant be arsed to even worry about it anymore- im at the mercy of the universe- what will be will be i suppose!! :rolleyes:
trying to use the LOA thing and ive put out there what i want and i got to let the universe do the rest and not worry about 'how' it'll manifest- but just let it happen....

Take Care you lovely lot! I love you all so much!! :)

Lottie, have you read or seen anything by Eckhart Tolle? A couple of years ago, i felt the same way - Tired of it all. After reading this guy's stuff it really made me chill out about everything. He has great ways on how to keep the mind relaxed and happy!

I'll get a link to one of his books.

Take care.

Auron :)

[auron]

Here you go:

Eckhart Tolle -The Power of NOW.pdf (http://www.badongo.com/file/3048825)

:)

[stevenstoolberg]

he's one of them lad ;)

[auron]

he's one of them lad ;)

Who's one of who?

[the festival spirit]

Cheers you guys!! you're the best!! :)

I hear what you are all saying- im taking into consideration all points etc....at moment- just going with flow!!

Tired of fighting the system, tired of being part of it, tired of small minds, tired of being tired... cant be arsed to even worry about it anymore- im at the mercy of the universe- what will be will be i suppose!! :rolleyes:
trying to use the LOA thing and ive put out there what i want and i got to let the universe do the rest and not worry about 'how' it'll manifest- but just let it happen....

Take Care you lovely lot! I love you all so much!! :)

I would like to say Lottie, first of all your own awareness of your own unhappiness and tiredness, is an awareness born out two things, the awareness of infinite love, and the awareness of misplacement.

In no way can you consider leaving your family behind, no-one would ever expect that or want it, but I did have to make that decision at the risk of losing my children (I am now a single (divorced) father, living in the depths of a prejudiced society) It took 4 years to actually become aware of and to realise the whole situation, I knew that I would have to make the choice of leaving my family behind

(which filled me with dread, My children were 12 and 13 at the time, because I stayed in a destructive marriage that only did the family harm, how could I possibly condemn my kids to that as I knew my daughter would stick with her mum initially, My son had always stayed with me, when any break ups happened......)

or leaving my own spiritual developement behind. In the end I made the choice that my own spiritual developement and my ability to give and recieve infinite love, was the most important, the family was torn apart, I did not go anywhere but this country we live in, is strange, the law was around 2002 still stacked heavily against single fathers on benefits.

The law discriminated against men and males, and still does. (I have Osteo Arthritis and have done since an early age) my 17 year old son suffers already, I am aware of a speeding up of evolution that has struck my son, he comes from a family of pro footballers and successful managers, and was on the road to 'success' when soon enough a series of small knocks put an end to his career before it started. But that has its good side, He is now learnig a trade that will 'help' feed humanity in the future.

OK, Lottie, I ask you to consider this, if you had to sacrifice a year or 5 with your family for a guaranteed Infinite love, would you make that choice to leave them family members behind knowing you could come back and teach them infinite love. If you could 'hypothetically' say yes to this, you probably would not need to leave your family anyway.

One of the things that most bothered me was the physical needs thing, (there may be kids reading this) It was something i had to be able to leave behind me,) I considered this over two years and by that time, I had no problem forgetting it, as soon as I became aware that I could possibly live without it, I had started the change. I swapped the physical love for infinite love, which sustains ALL our needs. there was no real sacrifice for me, the only downfall for me and my family was I didnt get to see my daughter as much as I would have liked for two years, but after that, and my daughter being aware of the infinite love I had for her, she soon learnt where she was 'better off' her own awakening and developement is coming on leaps and bounds this year, (my 17 yr old son, and 18 yr old daughter rented the house next door to me just before xmastime) I know a lot of young peopel their age and none of them move close to their parents, they all move away and lose connections.

I believe you need to find the things you may not be happy leaving behind, once you are aware of it, you can deal with it, I believe that careers can mainly be a waste of time, BUT you chose to be a nurse, my daughter being 'disabled' a bull5"17ly correct term.... gave me a massive awarenes of what it takes to be a nurse, you must have immense inner strength somewhere inside especially as you are now "doing care work in a home for the elderly where im on a crap wage"

Please realise the strength you have inside, But I am also aware of the negativity surrounding and being created in the NHS, (I will be battling that negativity soon, to destruction, in a peaceful manner of course) and you are bound to be affected by that negativity after being surrounded by it, whether you were aware of it or not.

I have a feeling that soon people from all over will connect in such a way that we will join forces and start a peaceful revolution, maybe you are just waiting for that to happen, One good thing you could do is try and be creative to suppliment your income, at home. try to work less in any 'slavery' type careers but keep your nursing skills 'topped up' we are going to need people like you soon enough.

Do you feel misplaced, that may be the only thing that is making you so tired, it is common, you may just be waiting for teh awareness and realisation to kick in, You must invite the infinite love in a definite 100% way, into your life regularly, one day your tiredness will be over, but it will rely on your choices, please take a look at my signature, it may help you make the better choices sooner.

If you would like to know more about using the words there is a bit of an introduction > HERE < (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4060) and hopefully that thread may inspire you to make better quality choices, are you certain you never made a wish that led you to where you are now, sometimes when we get what we want, we just improve the quality of what we want, and so immediately we get what we want, we want something new.

Lottie I urge you to consider NOT going with the flow, it may be too slow for you, and also that 'what will be will be i suppose!!' gives me the impression that you are giving up trusting the universe,

" Tired of fighting the system, tired of being part of it, tired of small minds, tired of being tired... cant be arsed to even worry about it anymore- im at the mercy of the universe- what will be will be i suppose!!

ive put out there what i want and i got to let the universe do the rest and not worry about 'how' it'll manifest- but just let it happen.... "

when you read that what is the impression you get ?

If you put out what you want in this " cant be arsed " frame of mind, .... and coupled with .... but just let it happen.... what do you think you will get back ?

My whole family have been adversely affected by negative thought, This is teh first of your posts I have responded to I think, (its been one heck of a week for me) but I am not having a go in a negative way, I never try and force my opinion on anyone, I just try and encourage them to think differently, if the way they are currently trying is not doing anything for them at the moment.

I sincerely hope for the best for you and yours, Lottie, you may have a friend in lookfar, she is an excellent guide, giver of infinite love and good energy, and she is agood reciever also.

I hope my words have helped you see your situation with more quality, try and think of or ask your children what to do, you may be surprised? I talked to my kids almost infinitely during the few years of 'different turmoil' of a family break up, but 5 years down the line we (my children and I, seperate from their mother and seperate from each other, but very close) are doing fantasticly well 'together' and all 3 of us are developing at a rate that was both unexpected and exhilerating, all at the same time, at once.

Peace n love n respect or .......
Infinite Love

[cafetimes1991]

I'd like to join a monastery of Buddhist monks, but that might severly limit my leafleting campaign.
Teaching English: The economy!
Traditional medicine: Top choice at the moment.

[loderlive]

I'm available to help around the house if anyone needs. I can barter personal training and nutritional support for some food and a gym. I'm polite, well mannered and don't drink, smoke or do drugs.

[takhisis]

Hi Guys- thought i'd consult the old wise ones on a dilemma im currently experiencing!!
My career recently went pear-shaped after i found out all this stuff over the last year- i realised a career in nursing was not for me due to the constant pushing of rules,regs,constaints,'be a robot' attitude and obviously i really dont agree with the whole western medicine thing either- so i threw the towel in but was left with no qualifications except in care/nursing/support work etc, i feel very lost- i have had to go get a job doing care work in a home for the elderly where im on a crap wage - just enough to pay the bills- but i have also been commended on my standards of work and have been given the opportunity to 'go up the ladder' in the place i work but it will take a good few years. my point being- i have lost the zest for a career etc as i really dont want to be part of 'the slavery system' and i also think on to how it will be in the future- like the whole 2012 thing and the nwo thing etc and think to myself- is it really worth getting a 'career'? i cant really find anything im happy doing, i'd just like to 'not work' but still have my house-grow some veg, have some chickens etc etc- and live peacefully, exchanging a bag of carrotts for a bottle of milk from the people next door - if you know what i mean!! i just wish we could be detatched from the whole thing- i dont want to be part of it anymore- but i feel trapped in it- i have no choice- i mean the way i described it to a friend is that....before you know all this stuff you create a life for yourself but then when you realise all this stuff- you suddenly find you have a life you created before you knew all this stuff and you are trapped in it a bit- like i can hear the sound of people saying- well just up and leave if you arn't happy.... but i cant- i have a partner- a house a car- a family animals etc etc to think about and they dont feel the same as me!! i don't know what to do- sometimes i dont want to be here at all- life is SO hard sometimes- im trapped in servitude to the state, if i dont work 40hrs a week i cant keep a roof over my head and food on the table, so when i am home im like a zombie- tired and irritated- unhappy about work, also i feel like i have to be 'someone else' at work- like a robot- i have to be 'professional' etc etc - i cant express who i really am or they'd all freak out- despite the fact that im still good at my job-what ever my beliefs, so it takes me ages to wind down and become 'me' again- and by which time i gotta go back to work again!! Is any of it worth it? as far as i can see the shit is gonna hit the fan in the next few years- everythings gonna be turned on its head and nothing will ever be the same again- so whats the point?? maybe the answer is only within myself- maybe i just wanted to share my feelings- i dunno- i would welcome any advice though- i dont speak to many people who understand all this stuff so not much input to it all!!

You are deffenatly NOT alone i feel the same WAY!

[lottie]

Crikey that thread is a blast from the past- what a whinging whiner i was... boo hoo! lol!!
:D:o

No i still feel like that occassionally- but what i have realised is that i was an idiot to give it all up for the sake of it all going tits up in 2012...lol-:rolleyes: its not all going tits up in 2012 (in my opinion) but i was believeing the hype!! lol!! :o Now im nowhere nearer anything than i was back then but if i'd stuck at something i'd have achieved a career in something at least! :rolleyes:

I wish i'd stayed nursing... western medicine does work in a western world and its not all about pharmaceutical companies poisoning people- there's a lot of good to be had from pharmaceuticals in this day and age... i wish now i was qualified...but my plan is to go back and get a good qualification after ive had my baby and watched him grow up a little... then im going to do my damndest to provide everything i can for him... :)

[arty2000]

I feel the same way.  I like working (although I'm quite tired now, and need a sabbatical), but I feel also very jaded about working for an institution that goes against everything I believe in, and I have to force myself to think positive and good thoughts before going to the office every morning.He's the thing though...we're all EXACTLY where we need to be right now, and even though we're hating it, we have to remember that it all happens for a reason.  When it is time to move on, we will.I find it interesting that everyone says they feel worse about their jobs since realizing the lie we live.  I've felt the same way, but I'm feeling it a whole lot stronger here lately.  Like in the last month or so.  Almost like something massive is about to happen.  Does anyone else feel the same thing?
I totally understand my friends...Sept 23 of last year I resigned from the PO after 15yrs.,months before this was a pretty interesting time for me (to say the least)... for me it was time as you so aptly put it..I have a house w/a mort. and 2 dogs but no kids.....for me I started listening to what infinity(heart) had to say...you may not get what you want but you will always get what you need...just listen...and yes you are always where you need to be at any given moment...just start listening:)...everything will be allright...everything is allright:)                                 ;) peace and luv my friends:)                            

[arty2000]

its just an illusion anyway:)have fun...this is your canvas paint what you want...oops maybe you already have;)                              peace and luv my friends:)

[da1reppinqnz]

shyt its kind of a relief hearing this from alot of people..im actually going thru somewhat the same situation... since learning of all the inside bullshit wit the government.its like all i wanna do is find out the truth because anyday i could die and will never get to find it out... im young ..18.. out of job and starting college.. i have a son...i will work at some ppoint .. my financial situation is ehh... its enough right now.. but i see myself just doing the same thing every1 else is living to do.. make a living... take care of the family and then die...i dont wanna do that.. i mean i want it 2 be all a part of it but i want the world to know the deal... i wanna know the deal... i dont trust alot of people.. im bent on finding out something new everyday... for the past maybe year almost ive been like this..its not all bad but i wish humanity was different... im no slave i will never be one... b4 i die .. IM EXPOSING THE EVIL FUCKERS!!!

[da1reppinqnz]

may we truthseekers live long n prosperous

[delamo1999]

Hi Guys- thought i'd consult the old wise ones on a dilemma im currently experiencing!!
My career recently went pear-shaped after i found out all this stuff over the last year- i realised a career in nursing was not for me due to the constant pushing of rules,regs,constaints,'be a robot' attitude and obviously i really dont agree with the whole western medicine thing either- so i threw the towel in but was left with no qualifications except in care/nursing/support work etc, i feel very lost- i have had to go get a job doing care work in a home for the elderly where im on a crap wage - just enough to pay the bills- but i have also been commended on my standards of work and have been given the opportunity to 'go up the ladder' in the place i work but it will take a good few years. my point being- i have lost the zest for a career etc as i really dont want to be part of 'the slavery system' and i also think on to how it will be in the future- like the whole 2012 thing and the nwo thing etc and think to myself- is it really worth getting a 'career'? i cant really find anything im happy doing, i'd just like to 'not work' but still have my house-grow some veg, have some chickens etc etc- and live peacefully, exchanging a bag of carrotts for a bottle of milk from the people next door - if you know what i mean!! i just wish we could be detatched from the whole thing- i dont want to be part of it anymore- but i feel trapped in it- i have no choice- i mean the way i described it to a friend is that....before you know all this stuff you create a life for yourself but then when you realise all this stuff- you suddenly find you have a life you created before you knew all this stuff and you are trapped in it a bit- like i can hear the sound of people saying- well just up and leave if you arn't happy.... but i cant- i have a partner- a house a car- a family animals etc etc to think about and they dont feel the same as me!! i don't know what to do- sometimes i dont want to be here at all- life is SO hard sometimes- im trapped in servitude to the state, if i dont work 40hrs a week i cant keep a roof over my head and food on the table, so when i am home im like a zombie- tired and irritated- unhappy about work, also i feel like i have to be 'someone else' at work- like a robot- i have to be 'professional' etc etc - i cant express who i really am or they'd all freak out- despite the fact that im still good at my job-what ever my beliefs, so it takes me ages to wind down and become 'me' again- and by which time i gotta go back to work again!! Is any of it worth it? as far as i can see the shit is gonna hit the fan in the next few years- everythings gonna be turned on its head and nothing will ever be the same again- so whats the point?? maybe the answer is only within myself- maybe i just wanted to share my feelings- i dunno- i would welcome any advice though- i dont speak to many people who understand all this stuff so not much input to it all!!


Hi Lottie:

You basically summed up what career is. I myself went through the education system so that I could land a good career. What I got was alot of temp work with gaps in employment. So I went backwards and got two retail jobs in organic markets. There I really flourished. However I could not make ends meet on the low salary. So off I went to train in another field and did really well with the training, complete with tutoring others. However, when it was time to enter the workforce again, it was as though nothing had happened. It was temp work with gaps in between. Right now I have been out of work since last September.

Now a days you just can't walk up and apply for a job. There are certain requirements that you need to do. First there is the resume that has the right "buzzwords" in it. Next are the personal professional references; visual proof that you are what you say you are. Then once you get an interview, you need to memorize a script so that you can answer the same mundane questions that they ask you. For me, most of the time I am required to also take a test at the interview to prove to them that I am fast and proficient with the software that the job requires. And last but not least, who are you "linked in" with on the networking sites.

Whew, this is alot of work just to find employment so that we can pay our rent/mortgage. No wonder people are tired.

I apologize for the soapbox, but I wanted to write saying that I really sympathize with your situation. I can say this that you are a lot more than what your employment job title is. Look inside and you will find many more beautiful aspects that make up the entire you.

:)