forget about microchipping -- it will not fly

[king]

because... they are using GWEN and cell towers and HAARP to control the human minds by ELF.
and, a very few even consider this as a possibility!

when people see cell towers nowadays -- they think; "cool, i can get me a cool phone/pda/mini web browser/email client in one cool package and i can access the internet anywhere in the city."

Even if they notice antennas they will think it is because cell providers want to increase the bandwidth and improve service.And i work with some very smart techies who are unfortunately not smart when it comes to the awakening process.


just try telling them that those towers may be pulsing ELF frequencies that control their minds and you will get a bewildered look on their face.
(no, i did not even tried telling them that one, but i did a hidden litmus test)

I am positive that Illuminati are already sending ELFs that entrain out brains via cell towers that are EVERYWHERE, especially near schools, hospitals, apartment complexes and office buildings. Because -- i have see those antennas.
Hidden and on open.

as a matter of fact, i have seen additional ELF antennas that they were adding today near office buildings.
I an guessing that HAARP and cell towers are not working as expected, there are some black sheep still who are not affected by it?!.

and those ELF/cell antennas are to be found always near area where lots of people reside or work.

but, what really solved chemtrails, GWEN and cell towers mystery for me was when i went to the top of a mountain
in my quest to solve chemtrails puzzle.

i watched those white chem c131 tankers starting the spraying process when approaching populated areas and turning off the spray nozzles after they are over the pacific or non populated areas.
That was a definite proof that people were the target!
yellowish brown goop over the cities and shitload of sprayplains were another clue. you can tell that they were not targeting ionosphere but the cities.
because, 5000 feet above the cities the skies looked ok, but bellow that it was a murky mess.
so, i understood immediately who is targeted.

on that very same day i noticed on a deserted mountain road strange flat antennas that were positioned to dissipate the energy longitudinally, that is on a straight part of the road, so that all who are driving on that road can be "entrained". immediately as you would pass the post with antenna, there will be another antenna that was 180 degree opposite, now hitting you from the back. That turned a "bingo" light but also an "alarm" light.

so, my friendly people -- the fuckers that rule the world knew many years ago that "mark of the beast" crap began to attract little to much attention, as many Christians and researchers started talking about it and linking it with the microchip.
They basically spoiled the Illuminati plans.

so, illuminati went with plan B that also was in works, from late eighties with "ozone hole" B.S. that i remember well, because they also cashed well on it. ("freon created the ozon hole" so let's tax the people,
which they did. a pound of R12 freon went from 50 cents in 80's to $ 60!! in 90's. yes, no shit, i used to buy it so i know!)

See, Illuminati always have a backup plan or two and they always try to cash in as a favor for their agenda pushers who get a cut.

now, back to plan B, alternative to microchips.

isn't it just perfect that everyone has a cell phone nowadays and no one minds cell towers?

isn't it perfect that broadband connectivity provided by our cell phone company that allows us not only phone connectivity by also internet and "great deals" on mini phone/pda combos and "great coverage" is the same thing that it zapping our brains with ELF, that entrains our brains to whatever mood the controllers desire?

just like the alien invasion will not work any longer (operation blue beam) a new, more believable threat like "global warming" had to be shoved on public (as they are peddling now) -- the micro chipping of humans forcefully would only work if those humans were totally unaware of the technology.
but in todays day and age -- that is impossible. Everyone knows about mark of the beast and can link it to the computer microchip.

so, micro chipped population would not work because:
A: we (small but very important percentage) are not so stupid and we would let the "secret" out, we would tell others
B: many of the people already have heard about 'mark of the beast' and they are connecting that with microchip technology
because this was pushed so much that is annoying.
C: people have to be unaware of such technological possibility, just like they are unaware of ELF/HAARP/Cell towers.

so, the illuminati fuckers are pulling couple of plan B's from the shelves.
plan B for mind control is HAARP/GWEN/cell towers

and, plan B, alternative for alien invasion is "global warming"
scare.



so, who said again that illuminaties are 'so smart' and 'so powerful' that we cannot do anything?
we already did something, but there is still lots of work to be done.

[purple is a fruit]

Thanks for a great post king.

I dont see it as a plan B, but as an 'up the anti' type situation. many probably would go for the microchip option from what I can tell... and for the ones left, they have their bases covered with all of the other stuff ......

Whatever the case, it is disturbing to note that there is a cell tower within metres of a local childcare centre here! getting em while they are still babies. And the parents don't even notice it! It sticks out like warty bloody dogsballs yet they turn a blind eye

Somedays ya simply gotta wonder

Purple

[thirdwave]

it has been profisised by many sources that there will be a great devide... those who realise the power of the human soul..so on... and those who wish to remian within the systems clutches... so on...

I can that happening it happening but the chip will not get its day i dont think.... there are easly people in this world would gladly put a chip in their bodies and would feel they are being good scitisens and not being troublesom and a pest by fighting the govenments plans to bring order to the world...... alot of it would be fear.... like... if we just do what they want we might not get hurt....

then of course there will be people who will TOTALY say NO, because these people will understand how important their soul is.....

this is why i think people need to be educated on spiritulaity more... this place has been so brainwashed into thinking the soul is dead.... that for some it wont matter..... but those who know what we really are and what our minds and souls really are, they will see this chip buisness for what it really is... nothing more than a compleat and utter horror show!

I agree it will not work because I think more and more people are seeing us and the word as it really is more and more and allthough it all apears they have all the control and the power, they are finding it very dificult to tip toe around us now.

[deca]

King you are right they have this. I suffer every day from electronc Harassment from thease cell towers. Do you know what the ELF antennas look like ? I have caught them on my ELF detector I have posted the video links in my threads on here about mind control and electronic harassment I am also looking in to celldar (cell phone radar)
http://www.roke.co.uk/press/38.php
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,811027,00.html
found this to
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2004/subvocal/subvocal.html
my jaw feels like there alot of electric pulses gonna through it.

[garth]

bang on King, cellphone towers seem to be growing like trees. I worked on a comercial building site recently that ham about 50 guys working there, it was within 100 meters of a cell phone tower, everyone onsite complained of headaches while working there. Did my best to awaken them to the source of there pain and pose the question of what else it was doing to them, I think a few woke up a little (the vast majority just drank more when they got home and forgot about it!) http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7766/smokingon7.gif

[purple is a fruit]

Yes garth...it is a bit like pushing shit uphill with a teaspoon sometimes insn't it? best place to hide something is in plain view after all....cell tower? what cell tower? what, where, oh...that oh, now wheres that stubbie gone......

[thirdwave]

bang on King, cellphone towers seem to be growing like trees. I worked on a comercial building site recently that ham about 50 guys working there, it was within 100 meters of a cell phone tower, everyone onsite complained of headaches while working there. Did my best to awaken them to the source of there pain and pose the question of what else it was doing to them, I think a few woke up a little (the vast majority just drank more when they got home and forgot about it!) http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7766/smokingon7.gif

mmm I got one near where I work as well, cant see i feel patculy worse at work...apart from the fact im at work of corse, no head aches and stuff though, allthough it is right next to a factory.... could it be these things are placed near factorys for a reason... keep the workers in place...

[limelady]

A Great post thanks King. I really enjoyed reading your views, and I have to say I agree with them also.

The bastards are giving it their all at the moment.

Last year where I live 'they' were experimenting with frequencies during the night. I would wake at around 2.30am every night and I could hear the frequencies. First there was a high-puched frequency which lasted for about a 1/2 hour, then it would change to a lower frequency (more like a hum) which would last till around 3.30. Then it would suddenly stop and all would be well again. I am very sensitive to frequencies and I couldn't sleep while it was coming at me. Others I knew were hearing it at times also, but most people just slept right through it.

I guess it was some sort of brain entrainment. Whatever it was, I'm certain it wasn't good!

[garth]

mmm I got one near where I work as well, cant see i feel patculy worse at work...apart from the fact im at work of corse, no head aches and stuff though, allthough it is right next to a factory.... could it be these things are placed near factorys for a reason... keep the workers in place...

Hi Thirdwave, I think it depends on the MHZ they are knocking out and what is being "beamed" at the time. There has been a lot of research, both scientific and anicdotal regarding cell phone towers in the past. I think the bastards have toned down or changed the frequency they are pumping out due to the bad press and rising questions. It doesn't mean that the potential effects are watered down, just the frequency used to do it may not be felt as severely. These are just my thoughts on the above as i have noticed a lack of complaint by the general populace regarding cell phone towers versus a year or so ago.http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7766/smokingon7.gif

[thirdwave]

Hi Thirdwave, I think it depends on the MHZ they are knocking out and what is being "beamed" at the time. There has been a lot of research, both scientific and anicdotal regarding cell phone towers in the past. I think the bastards have toned down or changed the frequency they are pumping out due to the bad press and rising questions. It doesn't mean that the potential effects are watered down, just the frequency used to do it may not be felt as severely. These are just my thoughts on the above as i have noticed a lack of complaint by the general populace regarding cell phone towers versus a year or so ago.http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7766/smokingon7.gif


yeah i get the feeling its all about them putting all the strings in place ready to pull, but i think even when they pull it and its all in place it is destand to fall down.... its like they are trying to stop somthing from growing which cant do anything else but grow... for a buch of powerful people they are pretty dumb.

[garth]

yeah i get the feeling its all about them putting all the strings in place ready to pull, but i think even when they pull it and its all in place it is destand to fall down.... its like they are trying to stop somthing from growing which cant do anything else but grow... for a buch of powerful people they are pretty dumb.

Damn right, I alos think the effects are negated once you have knowledge of whats going on, I.E. you know the cellphone tower is more than just for cells, so therefore your ownb defense kicks in to nullify any unseen effects it could have on you.

Its like a wave starting way out at sea, just a tiny ripple to begin with, slowly gathering spped and height, before you know it, its a 40 foot breaker about to pulverise the "mans" surfboard and smash it into tiny fragments of polystyrene.http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7766/smokingon7.gif

[thirdwave]

Damn right, I alos think the effects are negated once you have knowledge of whats going on, I.E. you know the cellphone tower is more than just for cells, so therefore your ownb defense kicks in to nullify any unseen effects it could have on you.

Its like a wave starting way out at sea, just a tiny ripple to begin with, slowly gathering spped and height, before you know it, its a 40 foot breaker about to pulverise the "mans" surfboard and smash it into tiny fragments of polystyrene.http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7766/smokingon7.gif

yes i know what you mean.... well we only percive around 10% of whats going on in our head in a "normal" state... im sure if we are aware of a danger then even though we may not be "hands on" with everything that goes on with us that %90 is still very much at work I think ....

[garth]

yes i know what you mean.... well we only percive around 10% of whats going on in our head in a "normal" state... im sure if we are aware of a danger then even though we may not be "hands on" with everything that goes on with us that %90 is still very much at work I think ....

yep..unlock the human potential, turn your aura into an impeneratrable force field http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9118/smoking1jj6.gif

[dondaz]

Very interesting King. But I must say you have thrown a spanner into my works.

My latest documentary is about fingerprinting our kids in schools and one of the areas I am covering is the stepping stone process of getting our children used to the idea of biometric technology; fingerprinting, eye scanning and facial recognition, all leading up to get us microchipped in the near future.:eek:

Trailer: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4876807553043435597&q=leave+our+kids+alone

I don't really want to go back to the drawing board on this, do you not think they still want the capability to distinguish between who we are as individuals too? ie fred blogs isn't playing ball so lets turn his credit off and starve him to death or whatever through his microchip?

I don't at all dispute what you say regarding these masts and HAARP etc. I have researched into this area quite a bit and I don't like what they are doing to us.

Best

Darren

"If the person who made the drawing board had got it wrong, what would they have had to go back to?"

[king]

King you are right they have this. I suffer every day from electronc Harassment from thease cell towers. Do you know what the ELF antennas look like ? I have caught them on my ELF detector I have posted the video links in my threads on here about mind control and electronic harassment I am also looking in to celldar (cell phone radar)
http://www.roke.co.uk/press/38.php
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,811027,00.html
found this to
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2004/subvocal/subvocal.html
my jaw feels like there alot of electric pulses gonna through it.

great links. I'll check them out.
I was also thinking about ELF detectors, that is how to detect ELFs.

my understanding is that ELF antennas can be made in different shapes, so a typical cell antena can be suitable for delivery of ELF frequencies.

what they do is -- they send high frequency for cell phones, say 824 to 849 megahertz.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/radio-spectrum.htm

now, if you "pulse" that frequency
or some other frequency that is pushed on same antenna
at say 6MHz per second -- you could put people in a sleepy state, or if you pulse it at 11Hz you will make them aggressive.
Our normal 'human frequency' is that of earth, around 7.8Hz -- this is known as 'Shuman resonance'.
What i think they are doing with ELF waves is that they are preventing (trying to prevent) evolution of consciousness.
the removal of veil of illusion and manipulation.

that is why they are hitting us from all angles; vaccines, pathogens, negative news and such.
But, intensified chemtrailing and intensified number of ELF antennas are telling me that something is happening that they are afraid of. That they are unable to even contain.

I now know for sure that they will loose. because, whatever it is tomming -- it cannot be stopped.

once more human spirit will prevail.
i think that we may hit some very rough times, but a really good thing is that those who have awakened are not going back to the matrix but they are trying to awaken the others. people like you and me, who self-educated themselves and who built up the courage, who are not afraid any longer.

And, just to be doing the right thing and believing in your self, your own power and that universe is on your side is helping the awakening effort more than you can imagine.
imagine all that incredible energy that is flowing around the planet and from-the-hearth intent to see a truly new world where color of the skin, an accent or color of the eyes is not even noticed. Where you are not respected by a car you drive, job you have, your clothes or your look, where your true individuality is not questioned but embraced.

imagine the world where you connect to many others like you on a spiritual level, not because they are from same country, religion or what have you but because their souls
feel the same conectedness.

I can see that world and i can see that it is possible.

so... yes, fuckenminati are loosing the game and they were really stupid for even trying to stop what cannot be stopped.

i really believe that contrary to all illuminati propaganda
they are relatively powerless, that is why they need to use all of those penile implants in order to control us.
from occult, black magic to chemtrail airplanes and ELF towers.
Why are they doing so if they are so powerful?
what are they afraid of?
lol


think about this;
lets's say that 6,4 billion of people wishes the same thing -- love peace and happiness. Yet, 100 million people
wishes to control those 6,4 billion people by all means possible. now, the moment comes when enormous energy of intent of those 6,4 billion will more than supersede power of controlling minority.
I think that we very close to this point.

see, it is not that fuckenminati wants to rule the world, that they want to make the global takeover -- it is that they are afraid for their sorry access now.

because, when you shine the light on the darkness -- the dark disappears.

they know it, they know that a reset switch is soon to be pushed in and they know what happens then.

that is why they are building underground tunnels, space bases and such. because they are raid for their sorry asses.

and they should be ...
because when 'sheeple' awakens... well I would not want to be in Illuminati shoes.

great post everyone!!!
thank you for making this a great thread!!!

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[_invisibleplane_]

no doubt about haarp/frequencies...I think the microchip will be used as the 'too much' solution...and then they will introduce their RFID that can be applied with INVISIBLE INK, if it's invisible..why not put it on your hand and head while you're at it..

in terms of countering ELF's..gooo orgone

[graflok]

Very good posts, King -- thank you. I would also like to add some thoughts of my own:

The bad guys now must know there are people who are on to them. People who know who and what they are and what they're doing. Every day people are waking up and the bad guys must know this is happening. They know there are more people today than yesterday who have woken up and there will be even more tomorrow.

It doesn't matter that this number is still a "minority." It doesn't matter because the human race now has the truth. It's no longer a secret and that's what matters. Evil depends on secrecy and the cat is out of the bag. Even the people who have heard it and don't believe it -- they still possess the truth whether they know it or not and this fact weakens the bad guys' chances.

When Bush stands in front of a TV camera he knows there are people looking at him right now who know his true nature. He knows he is fooling fewer people today than yesterday. The same goes for Blair and Cheney and Clinton and all the rest. Every day they wake up and know there are more out there that can see them for what they really are. Their mouths may be smiling but their eyes show fear because they know that we know.

One should still be wary and protect oneself. They are still capable of causing damage. In fact, they're not capable of anything else.

But, know that they are not winning.

:) graflok

[thoth]

My friend and I had this convo a minuite ago, and we came to similar conclusions. They really can manipulate us with HARRP and ELF waves, no doubt. I actually have some of these towers right by my house.

[lemonique]

Great thread thanks King and all. Yea, I'm sure they can actually use these towers to manipulate our moods.....but the ones 'in the know' will KNOW they are being manipulated. I believe in INTENT...and if it's my heartfelt intention that those towers won't harm me, they bloody well won't. (hopefully)
Hey...here's a thought.......with all the serveillance going on and more in the future....there won't be anyone left to spy on..everyone will be closeted somewhere sitting behind a screen DOING the spying!!! The streets at least will be lovely and quiet :-))
Cheers

[chicken]

Evil depends on secrecy and the cat is out of the bag. Even the people who have heard it and don't believe it -- they still possess the truth whether they know it or not and this fact weakens the bad guys' chances.

yes - very apt statement. I am a TI same as Deca who posted earlier on here. I have gained a lot from this thread. I was very ignorant about all this before and now I am educated - thanks to you people out there.

I was hit in February and believe I was chipped. I can't think how they would do it the other way - like brain entrainment. Either way its called remote viewing. I have been had

However it is too late for me I feel. The fact I am a e-harrassed victim is horrible to endure in its self. Now with the added stalking it is going to be impossible to live my life normally now. I know too much - but the thing is so does everyone else it seems. It is easy for people to say they have never heard of "microchipping" or "haarp" - well some have not of course.

I have educated them....

With both crappy things to endure - the aim is to take me apart slowly so that it looks natural. I am trying to surround myself with truth seekers who appear to believe. But can I trust these people after all that has happened to me?

However - I am on a path of self-destruction as I try to get my head around it. The county where I live seems afraid that I will reveal it. The stalkers have really stepped up the campaign this week. I was warned about five times to keep my mouth shut and have had an offer to sort me out..... charming?

I am so afraid for the future of people left after I have gone. I think they plan to make me suffer plenty and I will die young.

If you read about the two things I mention - its about enforced "eugenics" - you are chosen to suffer a form of torture for which is easily sorted if they just turned off the "machine" and the hunters buggered off and got a life. But I am their sport for the time I am here.


chicken

[adimon]

Highly interesting stuff. Definitely the best thread I've read this weekend.

King - other than your own experiences of watching the planes etc, what other research have you done into this?

[neutron flux]

because... they are using GWEN and cell towers and HAARP to control the human minds by ELF.
and, a very few even consider this as a possibility!


Well I've been posting articles on this on here before, mostly from the Signs crew and people haven't flinched they're just convinced that HAARP is for the weather. :rolleyes:

I received the following message from someone with whom I have been having a interesting email exchange. He was responding to our podcast on Mind Control, HAARP, and the Coming Catastrophe. He didn't want to post it himself, hoping to preserve some anonymity, so I am posting it in his place. I removed a few personal references, but other than that, it is as he wrote it to me.

The dumbing down of the American public has been the subject of much speculation. It is blamed on the public school system, television, flouride in the water, computer games, and other things. The following looks at the use of technology:

My information only confirms the conclusions I heard on the podcast, but you know enough about it that maybe some of my anecdotes will confirm some things you've guessed for you as well.

You folks are right about HAARP, and that 'chemtrails' are an aspect of that system. What I know about these things is second hand, but not from reading internet sites (simulacra). I witnessed regular and elaborate grids laid out routinely over north New Mexico. I was struck by this as soon as I arrived to live there in March 2000. I lived just west of Santa Fe off of Hwy 599, an open highway but it was public knowledge that 599 is the 'disposal' route from Los Alamos labs for their radioactive waste. The public is advised to avoid if there's an emergency, but the disposal trucks travel the route to Texas with military escort unannounced. Shortly after locating there it happened that the Sandia forest had a serious fire that drove the scientists and personnel living around Los Alamos into Santa Fe. It became public television news that an acre of 'hot' waste had been kept in tents above ground for years, and for several days there was a scare that if the fire reached them that the smoke cloud would become radioactive(we could smell the smoke and see the haze in Santa Fe, so that was pretty 'real' to us). That didn't happen, but I saw many of these disposal trucks for a week speeding with hummer escort south on Hwy 599 past the residence.

At the time I knew nothing of Los Alamos except what all Americans know - that it was where the nuclear weapons had been developed. The entire time I lived in New Mexico, 2000-2004, that's what everyone in town assumed they still do primarily. And I did meet former personnel that spoke of the routine of radiation protective suits and wearing the badges that are used at the end of a shift to measure the daily radiation exposure of an employee and so on. Those guys I'm referring to were the common labor, the machine shops and general janitors who didn't know much.

But I did wonder, how many times do you need to develop nuclear warheads? What else were they working on there?

I only met a handful of technical people, engineers and one retired scientist. Security of the real secrets isn't very dramatic, labs with layers of classified to non-classified to top secret work going on organized such that the personality profiles of each layer behave exactly as they're tested for. And there is a 'Santaroga Barrier' aspect and vibe to career people working in these facilities -- they are controlled communities. The mind control is subtle, and it was that aspect that I was much more interested in comprehending than any kill widgets or deth gizmos they were up to in there.

The retired scientist I met was the type who only cared about his own interest, which was cold fusion. He'd been on the cold fusion team (his terms) for thirty years until, he said, the US government discontinued it. He had his own lab next to his beautiful home on the mountain, off Artist's Road, with a splendid view of the Los Alamos facility. Which, by the way, is a rectangle of titanium which buildings, white being so visible against the brownish lanscape of the high Desert as to be visible from orbit. Due to that I've wondered whether the facility isn't just a low level operation now with mostly what really would amount to 'makework', not the really secret stuff they'd be doing someplace nobody's ever heard of, and no doubt underground.

The only other person I knew who was employed not at Los Alamos, but at the Sandia Labs, is more interesting than Edmund Storms and his energy unimpressive home cold fusion laboratory. A last word about Storms....my intuition is that he and his team were probably set up by personality profile in full knowledge that they would never reach the breakthrough point. Intuition, because my reading of Storms is that he lacked the hubris that I think must be a trait in the scientists who do get the results. He's the type that likes the process of the experimentation -- playing with his test tubes and electron microscope too much. He's perfectly happy to say that cold fusion is decades away from being 'cracked' as a viable free energy source, and he believes that.
It would never occur to him that he may have been set up with a lab to conduct his timid experimentation for a lifetime, never intended to get results but just the opposite.

Have you ever read Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow? If you haven't it's a 'must read', for a novel. Regarding mind control triggers, you may have already suspected that J.D.Salinger, who supposedly wrote Catcher in the Rye was no author who came up with the book all by himself, but was one of the 'composites', a name put certain literature which is really written by teams. No one's figured out exactly what the triggers are in Catcher in the Rye that supposedly set John Hinkley and Mark David Chapman off into their assassin alters. I never have been certain whether to believe that Hinkley ever was under mind control in that sense at all, and that his trial and incarceration wasn't just theater. For all we really know he was CIA all along and went on to other assignments with his birth identity neatly tucked away in a mental institution, a real mind control victim serving as proxy, no doubt believing himself to be Hinkley.

And if you haven't seen the Paddy Chayevsky masterpiece Network in a while....take a freeze frame of the last scene, when the two television studio audience assassins stand up to gun down Howard Beal on national television. Doesn't one of them look a lot like Mark David Chapman would look in 1980? This film was released in 1976. The penultimate predictive programming masterpiece.

Yes, I've been aware of and studying mind control for a very long time. But I didn't realize the extent I was under control of it myself until 2002. But back to 2000-2001, the Santa Fe (chem)Trail ;-) , and suspicions of subtle mind control out of Sandia Labs.

Now, in 2000 I was still associating with people who were into the "occult". I'd been corresponding with the head handler of the OTO who lived in Santa Fe for a year before moving up there. His presentation at the time was still the hipster 'hippie', and he had his little circle of followers who met at his pueblo frequently. Sometimes for 'Resh', or Crowley's Gnostic psychodrama for catching the intrigue of the suckers on the outside to get them to want to get in deeper. The one with the silly costumes and incantations and hand signals, at the conclusion of which you get to quaff some wine and kiss a naked girl sitting on the alter....oops, I mean 'altar'. In 2000 they were still passing the bong around at these cozy gatherings. I gathered that the psychadelics which were abundant through the 90's had just been cut off...in Santa Fe...though I learned upon return to Texas that never slowed down in Austin.

So I already knew a bit about how formal occult cliques operate. You have your worshipful master, whatever he or she is called depending on the flavor of the draw, and that if that person thinks your fit material for programming pretty soon one of the members of whatever your sexual preference will start talking with you a lot and wanting to get personal. The one he picked for that role with me, or maybe she picked herself, was nice enough but not really my type. But she was working at the Sandia Labs in some classified capacity. The most interesting conversation I had with her, I confided my childhood experiences when I was living near a naval air station, things like having a year of insomnia from things like the bed vibrating each time I'd be on the cusp of sleep, and hums and such. Those phenomena has started abruptly and ended about as abruptly after several months.

She knew all about it, an proceeded to describe the same experiences in her home during he same years when this project was going on. MKDELTA. High band radio waves with a powerful transducer effect, both on things like bedsprings, and cranial bone.

I"ve had a knack....or used to.......for running into people out of heavy mind control histories. Like them all, she could speak of these things with first hand detail and matter of fact, since if you've been a subject it seems normal. But her department was evidently in the bio labs, another 'makework' project probably, she was too flaky to be involved in anything important--or secret--because only the real high functioning sociopaths with real hubris get to work in that stuff.

But I think I did meet one of those after all. In September 2000 I moved into Santa Fe near the Indian School, and my computer got hit by something that knocked out it's ability to download from the internet. I could connect, but not 'surf'. Another flaky woman I'd met who'd seen my ad for making web sites suggested a friend of hers, Cliff, whom she said did computer house calls and was excellent and affordable. I called him. He spend about 5 hours in my OS, and got it working. He removed an army of trojans and suggested I start using a firewall.

He seemed like the typical Santa Fe 50 year old technocrat who'd walked away from a career at Hewlitt Packard in Seattle to be a hippie malcontent. That's the story he told me. He also sounded paranoid to me, talking about 'special research' he was doing that had attracted NSA attention, warning me that the internet is a hand-me-down from DARPA and there's no such thing as privacy if you use it at all.

After he left I went to his web site, and on his page about his computer service, I found a link that took me into his site on chemtrails.
Now you've heard of this guy. It was Clifford Carnicorn...now very widely known as the first and most qualified chemtrail researcher on the internet. He's the one that as far back as 2000 got the 'toxins' story going. It was already on his web site, the story goes like this---

Working out of his house, he made crude weather balloons to send up into the residue of fresh trails. When recovered, he'd examine these, under a microscope, and doing home spectrography to see what was in the sample. So Carnicorn wrote the whole script on chemtrails containing -- aluminum, barium, but also bio hazardous suspicious stuff like red blood cells. And nasty bacteria that causes upper respiratory problems.

However, my maxim is 'don't believe what you read in the papers' ... During the four years I lived in Santa Fe, priveledged to see almost daily massive chemtrail gridding done by squadrons of high flying unmarked tankers of the Boeing 757 class, I heard much about the 'chemtrail people' convinced it was making people sick, reporting upper respiratory illness, flu like symptoms, and chronic fatique syndrome...but I did not experience these myself. And I never saw any of that 'angel hair' or 'matt of fibers' or 'yellow snow' you will find on all the chemtrail sites and Rense and all those people. Even Alan Watt pushes these chemtrail myths, though maybe he believes them as many people do.

But these memes begin with Carnicorn, and his web site was the very first to get this going. All those years I thought that Cliff Carnicorn was a re-tread hippie who'd left (or gotten downsized) from ordinary computer programming with Hewlett Packard, and that he was sincere. I never saw or corresponded with him except that day when he was in my house for 5 hours pretending to be a ne're-do-well PC repair guy.

Now get this. Last year, there was a chemtrails thread on another forum, and the administrator thinks the whole thing is rubbish, that people are imagining it, period. Naturally that fostered a division of posters some violently 'for' chemtrails, and others just a vehemently scoffing. I saw both were all wet in their conclusions, so I posted my experience that I'd witnessed them and mentioned Carnicorn as a reference site to find photos that I could confirm because he took them on dates when I saw those patterns being laid out myself.

But one of the forum posters who does actually research things, researched Carnicorn, and lo and behold he'd found out that Carnicorn, now by his own admission, was an atmospheric research scientist employed by the Department of Defense for eighteen years, ('retired'), who had top secret security clearance. Carnicorn's upgraded story is that he 'walked' on that career out of beginning to suspect that the DoD might be doing some research that might not be good for people! Same story he told me, except not Hewlett Packard, but DoD and atmospheric engineering to boot.

I felt a chill go up my spine recalling that this guy had been in my pc for half a day, realizing that nothing and nobody I encountered in Santa Fe had been so 'random' as I'd thought.

So Cliff is counterintelligence. That's confirmed, I think, at least for me.

But I'd not taken his site's word for it that chemtrails are for making us sick. They never made me sick. My own growing hypothesis from observing between 2000 and 2004 was that the operation was connected to Los Alamos research. And it had been Teller of Los Alamos who'd suggested high altitude spraying of aluminum particles, he said, to reflect solar radiation to counteract the 'greenhouse effect', which nowadays dovetails nicely with 'global warming' nonsense. Teller is the perfect example of a scientist who does have that maniacal ambition and hubris to go straight to the director's chair of the most evil projects and actually feed off that sense of power of millions of innocent lives. A deth dealer. So anything that Teller said publicly--you know it was lies and deception to throw anyone in the wrong direction.

What I did experience, and see everybody else experience, both in Santa Fe where there were chemtrails, and on my trips around the country, isn't people coughing but people lacking the basic emotional reaction to crisis. And lacking empathy to horror committed against innocents. And when I go into the city environs here, lack of facial and emotional affect.

It's like 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' and you obviously know what I mean, since you and your friends speak of precisely that on the 'POD' cast.

When I was in Florida for a couple of weeks in 2003, I didn't see chemtrails. When I moved here, haven't seen them except very rarely. I saw them for a few weeks before the Nov 2006 elections, that's about it.

So I've considered, 'why did people go numb, between 2003-2004, and stay that way since? The chemtrails aren't all there is to it. HAARP probably isn't all their is to it either.

What we have blanketing parts of Texas--the whole north Gulf Coast really--and Austin is microwave towers. And now everybody has a phone glued to their head anywhere they go, even have those 'blue tooth' things stuck in the ear.

I used a microwave phone for a few months in 1999, and didn't like it, so I haven't used anything by a land line since. If somebody wants to reach me when I'm out, they can leave a message on my machine. I grew up before this stuff, so I still find it creepy to hear somebody in a store say, 'hi' and start talking and there's 'nobody there'.

The mind control of the phones runs on mutliple levels ranging from behavior modification like that just from using the medium, to deeperlayers of altering brain structures. Now the towers are all over the place, you'd have to drive an hour or two away from a high population area to get out of their long range. I think that for those weak zones in the grid, that may be where the chemtrails and HAARP come in. They want FULL PLANETARY COVERAGE, 24/7, whether one has a phone glued to their skull or not. They're gonna 'reach out and touch someone', everyone. From the Amazon jungle to the Artic Circle.

So we're dumbed and numbed down now. But having studied the 'neurophone' and acoustical physics, and biofeedback brainwave technology back in the seventies when my techtronophile friends liked to play with this stuff, I know that they can make masses of people behave any way they want, just by adjusting the Hz.

When the Miami and LA riots happened in the early 90's, I knew that this is what they were experimenting with. At that time there was no microwave tower grid of the scope it's been since 1997, but cities could have concealed the technologies while it was still secret and figured the DIA was testing it on live populations. The 'rage' was triggered, and not just in those cities but in all cities during the 90's. Remember 'road rage'? People losing their tempers easily with clerks or people in stores during the 90's? I remember that during the Waco massacre, it was the first time I saw everyone go blank in Austin. And then from 1996 on everybody just seemed to go berserk. 1998 I saw needless auto wrecks every single day on the 183 semi-loop were I was working for a subidiary of Trilogy. That's where all the IT stuff was, all along that highway. I had lost my own business in 1998 and had to do temp work for a year. First job I got was delivery driver, so I was in and out of all the IT complexes loading docks and check points. DELL, Motorola, and a host of others. That 'culture' had come out of thin air in Austin between 1990-1996. They are definitely security conscious. Motorola for instance, uses military police at their checkpoints. I know the profile. And they had the heaviest security of all the complexes. Something going on there that was very secret. Going in and out of there wasn't just being flipped through a gate by saying 'Candy Gram', they detained you while they called in to a central office. Took a few minutes. Someone on the other end was checking out the car, driver's licence.

Well, that's my experience with this stuff. The world has completely changed since the mid 1990's, and they've 'done it' now. I wish I could just go back to the 70's...or better yet the 1870's and just stay there!


http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/136757-Mind+Control+and+HAARP



a new, more believable threat like "global warming" had to be shoved on public (as they are peddling now)

The world is changing that you can't ignore - I think they see it as a good way to capitalize on this because there's money in it, what with bio-fuels that take away land used for food being one example - that also fits into population reduction.

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The retired scientist I met was the type who only cared about his own interest, which was cold fusion. He'd been on the cold fusion team (his terms) for thirty years until, he said, the US government discontinued it.


Any idea as to the background of this cold fusion project? It seems odd they continued this one and left loads of others running.

Regarding mind control triggers, you may have already suspected that J.D.Salinger, who supposedly wrote Catcher in the Rye was no author who came up with the book all by himself, but was one of the 'composites', a name put certain literature which is really written by teams. No one's figured out exactly what the triggers are in Catcher in the Rye that supposedly set John Hinkley and Mark David Chapman off into their assassin alters.


J.D. Salinger was definitely an author. Anyone who doesn't think so should look harder. I think Chapman and Hinckley were just nutters that had a shared favourite book. Manson had the Beatles - no one believes the Beatles were a composite do they?.

I will certainly be reading more into all of this though thanks for the citation.