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xxxx
27-03-2008, 06:42 PM
i've heard several people commenting on him but noones actually given any infomation. can someone tell me why he's important? Haile Selassie the ethiopian guy whos revered by rastas.

eternal_spirit
27-03-2008, 06:51 PM
12 Tribes of Israel Mansions of Rastafari Mansions of Rastafari are branches of the Rastafari movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari_movement). Mansions include the Bobo Ashanti, the Nyabinghi, the Twelve Tribes of Israel, and others. The term is taken from the Biblical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible) verse in John 14:2, "In my Father's house are many mansions." Contents

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1 Bobo Ashanti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansions_of_Rastafari#Bobo_Ashanti)
2 Twelve Tribes of Israel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansions_of_Rastafari#Twelve_Tribes_of_Israel)
3 Niyabinghi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansions_of_Rastafari#Niyabinghi)
4 Others (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansions_of_Rastafari#Others)
5 External links (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansions_of_Rastafari#External_links)[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mansions_of_Rastafari&action=edit&section=1)] Bobo Ashanti

Known as the Priestly Order of Rastafari, the Ethiopia Africa Black International Congress, Church of True Divine Salvation for Bobo Rasta, or Bobo Shanti, was founded in the mid-twentieth century by Charles Edwards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Edwards_%28Rastafarian%29), known as King Emmanuel, and considered by many to be the Black Christ-in-flesh. Most of its members, called "Bobos" or "Bobo dreads", live in Bull Bay (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bull_Bay&action=edit), in a small utopian community called Bobo Hill in 10 Miles Bull Bay. Bobos greet each other using the formal address "My Lord" and are most notable for their wearing of turbans and long flowing robes as well as brooms they carry with them, which signify cleanliness. The brooms and other crafts are also sold in Kingston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston%2C_Jamaica) as a way to provide funds for the community. The Bobos have established a strong relationship with the local community outside of Bobo Hill and often invite people to their services. Membership of the Ethiopia Africa Black International Congress isincreasingly growing globally, as their members are seen in Africa, Europe, and throughout the caribbean. King Emmanuel is called "Dada" by his followers, who see him as part of a holy Trinity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity), together with Marcus Garvey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Garvey) and Haile Selassie of Ethiopia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haile_Selassie_of_Ethiopia), in which Selassie is seen as King/God (Jah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jah)), Garvey as prophet, and Emmanuel as high priest after the priesthood order of Melchizedec. Almost all sacred songs and tributes to their ancient trinity of prophet, priest, and king ends with the phrase "Holy Emmanuel I Selassie I Jah Rastafari."
Bobos say that "Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa)" is the name that the European colonizers gave to Ethiopia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopia), or "Jerusalem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem)". Many see black supremacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_supremacy) ideas as essential to the faith, and in the Bobo (and Rastafarian) conception, the true Ethiopian Israelites (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ethiopian_Israelites&action=edit) are black men and women, who are Royal Ethiopians from creation birth, scattered during the African diaspora.
Not only do Bobos believe in black supremacy, meaning black is original and therefore supreme, they also consider black women as mothers of creation. Women cover their legs, arms, and head in practice of the Queen Omega principles. Nearly all the men within the community are seen as prophets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophet) or priests (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priest), whose functions are to “reason” and conduct churchical and parliamentary services, respectively.[weasel words (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words)] However, some consider Bobos deeply racist against white people, as well as misogynistic.[weasel words (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words)]

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mansions_of_Rastafari&action=edit&section=2)] Twelve Tribes of Israel

The Twelve Tribes of Israel is a Rastafari group founded in Kingston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston%2C_Jamaica), Jamaica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaica), and now functioning worldwide. Its founder, Vernon Carrington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Carrington), was known as Prophet Gad, and taught his students to read the Bible 'A Chapter A Day'.
Twelve Tribes of Israel Rastafari organization accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, and Selassie I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selassie_I) as divinely chosen by the creator to represent him on earth. Due to the stigma associated with slavery and the false use of the name Jesus by enslavers/colonialist not practicing what they preached, some prefer to use the ancient names of Christ - Yeshua or Yehoshua or JAH SHUA ( from Hebrew ) and/or Yesus Kristos ( Amharic ).
Haile Selassie I is seen as a divinely anointed king in the lineage of King David (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David) and Solomon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon). While he is considered a type/representation of Christ in Kingly Character, he is not Jesus Christ himself, but a representative of the everlasting Davidic covenant, which is to be fulfilled by Jesus Christ when he returns as Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
The twelve tribes symbology is based on Jacob (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob)/Israel's 12 sons, and correspond to the months of the ancient Israelite calendar, beginning with April and Reuben. Some people further relate this to metaphysical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphysics) signs. Thus Bob Marley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Marley) came from the Tribe of Joseph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_%28Hebrew_Bible%29), the eleventh of the biblical Jacob's twelve children (because he was born in February). The name Levi in Ijahman Levi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ijahman_Levi) represents the third child who was born to Jacob. Another well known reggae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggae) group of this sect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sect) is Israel Vibration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Vibration).
Bob Marley, a natty dread, by quoting a biblical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible) passage about Joseph on the album cover of Rastaman Vibration, was acknowledging his own support for this sect. Dennis Brown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Brown), Freddie McGregor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_McGregor), and many other roots reggae artists were associated with the Twelve Tribes of Israel.
Due to their inclusiveness of all races and acceptance of the Holy Bible, though not the oldest, Twelve Tribes of Israel is considered the largest of all Rastafari houses

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mansions_of_Rastafari&action=edit&section=3)] Niyabinghi

The Niyabinghi Theocracy Government was named for a legendary Amazon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazons) queen of the same name, who was said to have possessed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_possession) a Ugandan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda) woman named Muhumusa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhumusa) in the 19th century (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_century). Muhumusa inspired a movement, rebelling against African colonial authorities. Though she was captured in 1913 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1913), alleged possessions by "Nyahbinghi" (traditional spelling) continued, mostly afflicting women.
The Niyabinghi resistance inspired a number of Jamaican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaica) Rastas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari_movement), who incorporated what are known as niyabinghi chants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niyabinghi_chants) (also binghi) into their celebrations ("grounations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grounation_Day)"). The rhythms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm) of these chants were eventually an influence of popular ska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ska), rocksteady (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocksteady) and reggae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggae) music. Three kinds of drums (called "harps") are used in niyabinghi: bass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_%28musical_term%29), also known as the "Pope Smasher" or "Vatican Basher", reflecting a Rasta association between Catholicism and Babylon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon), the middle-pitched funde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funde) and akete (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Akete&action=edit). The akete (also known as the "repeater") plays an improvised (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvisation) syncopation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncopation), the funde plays a regular one-two beat and the bass drum strikes loudly on the first beat, and softly on the third beat (of four). When groups of players get together, only one akete player may play at any one time. The other drums keep regular rhythms while the akete players solo in the form of a conversation. Count Ossie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Ossie) was the first to record niyabinghi, and he helped to establish and maintain Rastafari culture.
Niyabinghi drumming is not exclusive to the Niyabinghi order, and is common to all Rastafarians. Its rhythms are the basis of Reggae music, through the influential ska band, the Skatalites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skatalites). It is said that their drummer revolutionized Jamaican music by combining the various Niyabinghi parts into a 'complete' "drum kit," which combined with jazz to create an entirely new form of music, known as ska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ska_music). Niyabinghi rhythms were largely a creation of Count Ossie, who incorporated influences from traditional Jamaican Kumina drumming (especially the form of the drums themselves) with songs and rhythms learned from the recordings of Nigerian musician Babatunde Olatunji (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babatunde_Olatunji).
Binghi chanting typically includes recitation of the Psalms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalm), but may also include variations of well-know Christian hymns. Though Count Ossie is clearly the most influential Binghi drummer, practically the thing inventing the genre of something in its present state, the recordings of Ras Michael (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ras_Michael) and the Sons of Negus (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sons_of_Negus&action=edit), as well as the Rastafari Elders (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rastafari_Elders&action=edit), have contributed to the popularity of the music.
Though Niyabinghi music operates as a form of Rasta religious music outside of Reggae, musicians such as Bob Marley and even non-Rastas such Prince Buster and Jimmy Cliff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Cliff) (both Muslim) used the idiom in some songs. Recently, dancehall sensation Sizzla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sizzla), American roots-Reggae artists such as Groundation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundation) and Jah Levi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jah_Levi), and Hip hop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rap_music) have used Niyabinghi drums extensively in their recordings. Though sometimes claimed to be a direct continuation of an African cultural form, Niyabinghi drumming is best seen as the voice of a people rediscovering their African roots.
Combining Jamaican traditions with newly acquired African ones, Count Ossie and others synthesized his country's African traditions and reinvigorated them with the influences of Nigerian master-drummer Babatunde Olatunji (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babatunde_Olatunji), as a comparison of Count Ossie's Tales of Mozambique (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tales_of_Mozambique&action=edit) and Olatunji's earlier Drums of Passion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drums_of_Passion) will reveal. Indeed, it is that combination of inherited traditions and conscious rediscovery of lost African traditions that makes Niyabinghi drumming—and Rasta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari_movement)—so powerful.
Niyabinghi are considered the strictest mansion of the Rastafari movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari_movement) in Jamaica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaica) preaching the ideals of a global theocracy to be headed by Emperor Haile Selassie I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haile_Selassie), whom they proclaim to be the promised Messiah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah) and incarnation of the Supreme

eternal_spirit
27-03-2008, 06:52 PM
Others

Other mansions of Rastafari include: Iyesus/Jesus Dreads, Messianic Dreads, and the Selassian Church.



Interview with Prophet Gad (http://web.syr.edu/%7Eaffellem/Gad.html)
Rastafarian Centralization organisation (http://web.syr.edu/%7Eaffellem/rco.html)
Official House of Nyabinghi (http://nyahbinghi.org/)
House of Bobo (http://houseofbobo.com/)Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansions_of_Rastafari"
Categories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Categories): Articles with specifically (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_with_specifically-marked_weasel-worded_phrases)

thetonic
27-03-2008, 06:56 PM
he did fight the catholic church, but this guy was not a savior by any means, he lived in a fuckin palace while his people starved

eternal_spirit
27-03-2008, 06:58 PM
he did fight the catholic church, but this guy was not a savior by any means, he lived in a fuckin palace while his people starved


Elite is Elite

sevenworlds
27-03-2008, 07:54 PM
Basically, many Rastas believed him to be the second reincarnation of Christ. He was considered a living God. I think it's something to do with the timing of his rise to power in Ethiopa in the 1930s and the way certain biblical prophecies are read. Marcus Garvey, another highly regarded figure by Rastas, apparently told black people of the Americas and Carribbean to look to the East for a black King rising to power, as part of his Back-to-Africa campaign. This was taken to be Haile Selassie.

He seemed to overcome many obstacles in his rise to power which many believed was a sign that he was a living God, as only the Most High could set up such a thing.

It's hard to find out reliable info on him though. All I've seen so far are reports from the West (Babylon), which I wouldn't trust, and a lot of superstitious tales, which could be true, but we'll never really know.

them
27-03-2008, 07:59 PM
I haven't got time at the moment to search for the info but I can tell you that he was put in place by the British Government and was a Knight of the Garter :eek:

Most true Rasta's would take exception to anybody who reveres him and only worship Jah. Trying going up to a Rasta in Kingston & spouting off about Haile Selassie..

The only one who really gets away with praising both Jah & Selass-i-e is Jah Shaka.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC7LHIPkZzM

synergy777
27-03-2008, 09:30 PM
them i am impressed by your knowledge bro, good stuff.

elite is elite, true words.

lumukanda
27-03-2008, 10:12 PM
i watched a really good doccie about rasta last night, and whereas a lot of what was said about the ancient influence of africa i really agreed with, it was the reverence for haille selassie, knowing who he really was, knowing who his allegiances included,that really made me think about rastafari.
on the other if one considers the african influence on ancient middle eastern culture, the significance of haille selassie being a descendant of solomon and sheba makes sense, but still, he was a king, part of the bloodline, i think it just shows again how elite corrupt the strands of truth out there.

synergy777
27-03-2008, 10:19 PM
luma good stuff bro, long time since i have spoken to you, hope everything is good.

the african influence on middle eastern/indian culture is huge, as africa is our mother culture. remember the naga kings of india, the dravidic indians etc, these are from africa.

them
28-03-2008, 12:38 AM
them i am impressed by your knowledge bro, good stuff.

elite is elite, true words.

I lived in St Pauls in Bristol when I was a student for four years. My neighbours either side were Rasta.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5M0oTjyZ-g

I can chat Rasta, dance Rasta, grow weed Rasta, RESPECT Rasta and cook chicken in a Rasta stylee :D

them
28-03-2008, 12:46 AM
Order of the Garter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_of_the_Garter#Members)



List of Knights and Ladies of the Garter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Knights_and_Ladies_of_the_Garter)

lumukanda
28-03-2008, 01:00 PM
luma good stuff bro, long time since i have spoken to you, hope everything is good.

the african influence on middle eastern/indian culture is huge, as africa is our mother culture. remember the naga kings of india, the dravidic indians etc, these are from africa.
i'm pretty good man, how about you?
i've been hanging around with rastas for years, i have many fond memories of chilling out at the kingston town compound in my town, just talking, smoking, making music, i even did my 3rd year documentary at film school about rastafarianism as well as a pretty cool music video.
like most religions, i feel rastafarianism is correct about so much, but horribly wrong about so much too. all said and done thought, i find the conversations i have with them very stimulating.
a long time ago i was cornered one night and asked if i smoke cigs (i do), do i drink (i do), do i eat meat (i do) and they asked me why i don't follow the rasta way, without skipping a beat i answered that rasta is amongst other things, a black consciousness movement aimed at ridding africa of colonial influences and for me to be a rasta, being white, would be hypocritical. as i said it i thought i'd gone too far, but they loved that answer.

xxxx
02-04-2008, 05:43 PM
cool. cheers. i'm in the marcus garvey library. now i've just told you all where i live. nevermind.

baron von lotsov
02-04-2008, 05:49 PM
I haven't got time at the moment to search for the info but I can tell you that he was put in place by the British Government and was a Knight of the Garter :eek:

Most true Rasta's would take exception to anybody who reveres him and only worship Jah. Trying going up to a Rasta in Kingston & spouting off about Haile Selassie..

The only one who really gets away with praising both Jah & Selass-i-e is Jah Shaka.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC7LHIPkZzM

Try telling the rastas that they worship someone in the same club as John Major and see what they have to say about that.

synergy777
02-04-2008, 05:59 PM
i'm pretty good man, how about you?
i've been hanging around with rastas for years, i have many fond memories of chilling out at the kingston town compound in my town, just talking, smoking, making music, i even did my 3rd year documentary at film school about rastafarianism as well as a pretty cool music video.
like most religions, i feel rastafarianism is correct about so much, but horribly wrong about so much too. all said and done thought, i find the conversations i have with them very stimulating.
a long time ago i was cornered one night and asked if i smoke cigs (i do), do i drink (i do), do i eat meat (i do) and they asked me why i don't follow the rasta way, without skipping a beat i answered that rasta is amongst other things, a black consciousness movement aimed at ridding africa of colonial influences and for me to be a rasta, being white, would be hypocritical. as i said it i thought i'd gone too far, but they loved that answer.

good stuff bro, rasta are cool peopel, there are cool peopel in evry nationalty/religion.

my rasta mates use to tell me not smoke ciggies, make me eat vegetarian food, they call it ital food etc. to be honest i have had muslim mates, christian mates, sikh/hindu mates, jweish mates all try to help live a more healthier life, they just know i am too stubborn to listen, even though i know they are right, lol

thetonic
02-04-2008, 06:22 PM
Try telling the rastas that they worship someone in the same club as John Major and see what they have to say about that.

So many out there become rastas for the wrong reasons. What i call impasta rastas. Its like a club to join that they think theyll be cool because they get to smoke weed and grow dreadlocks.. Absolute rubbish.. The real rastas like you said , dont even neccesarilly believe that Sellasie is the reincarnation.

baron von lotsov
02-04-2008, 08:10 PM
So many out there become rastas for the wrong reasons. What i call impasta rastas. Its like a club to join that they think theyll be cool because they get to smoke weed and grow dreadlocks.. Absolute rubbish.. The real rastas like you said , dont even neccesarilly believe that Sellasie is the reincarnation.

Yes, I came across this weird scene quite a while back. I remember reading something that suggested that maybe it was the British who had something to do with it, as it really did not add up. I didn't realise he was a Knight of the Garter but it makes perfect sense now. It's good to see people checking things out.

Incidentally the Knights of the Garter is an occult group. The Garter is a sign to signify the woman is a witch and so the old story about the garter falling off had a double meaning. Essentially the knight who picked it up recognised the sign and so after that it was formed with 26 divisions, two groups of 13 which is the number a witch's coven traditionally consists of. So all this worship business is actually worship of the occult.

them
03-04-2008, 12:43 AM
Try telling the rastas that they worship someone in the same club as John Major and see what they have to say about that.

Try telling anybody who believes in a different God to you; that yours is good and theirs is bad ;)

Best not to bother with them.

http://www.le.ac.uk/users/grj1/links.html