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The 8,000 Years of The Book of the Secrets of Enoch
The Book of the Secrets of Enoch XXXI.1-6 speaks of Adam
and Eve‘s Fall and of the historical period thereafter. In The Book of
the Secrets of Enoch XXXII.1-6, XXXIII.1-2, God speaks of an 8,000
year period commencing from the time God first comes to place Adam
on our Earth and which ends when He returns to remove him therefrom
(at the First-Resurrection) at the time of the ―second coming.‖ As we
have so determined, Adam was placed on our Earth in 6,000 B.C., at the
commencement of this 8,000 year period. This period comes to its end
some 8,000 years later at the ―second coming‖ in 2016 A.D. at which
time occurs the First-Resurrection, at which time Adam is resurrected.
Azazel‟s Banishment
The ―chosen,‖ by definition genetically engineered man Adam
was placed on this Earth in 6,000 B.C. by God amidst an already
existing human population of our Earth whose existence was the result
of billions of years of evolution, an evolutionary process set in motion
on our Earth under the direct influence of the eternally livimg God
Himself. After Adam‘s and Eve‘s expulsion from the Garden of Eden,
certain angels reviled Adam, mocking him, thinking him inferior to
them:
―And there were certain angels with whom God was wroth…they
reviled Adam, saying, ―Since God hath shown love to him He hath set
us to minister unto him, and the beasts and creeping things, and the fish
of the sea, and the birds of the air, and all fruits, and the trees of the
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field, and the heavens and the earth also; and He hath appointed the
heavens to give him rain, and the earth to give him fruits. And the sun
and the moon also hath He given him, the sun to give him light by day
and the moon to give him light in the night season. He hath fashioned
him with His fingers, and He hath created him in His own image, and
He hath kissed him and breathed upon him the spirit of life; and He saith
unto him, ‗My son, My firstborn, My beloved.‘ And he hath set him in
a garden (the Garden of Eden) to eat and enjoy himself without sickness
or suffering (possessed of an eternal life), and without toil and labor, but
He hath commanded him not to eat of one tree. And being given all
these things by God, Adam hath transgressed and eaten of that tree, and
he hath become hated and rejected, and God hath driven him out of the
Garden, and from that time Adam hath abandoned his hope, for he hath
transgressed the commandment of his Creator.‖ - The Kebra-Nagast Chapter
100
The Kebra-Nagast (also known as ‗Glory of Kings‘) provides
God‘s answer to those rebellious angels who contradicted God‘s
commands and who reviled Adam:
―And the Merciful One and the Lover of mercy (God) answered them
(the rebellious angels) on behalf of Adam, and said unto them: ―You
have I created out of fire and air with the one intent that ye should praise
Me. Him have I created of twice as many elements as you—of dust
and water, and of wind and fire; and he became a being of flesh and
blood…As for you, ye have no other object in your minds but praise of
Me, with the exception of that arrogant one (Satan) who produced evil,
and became an evil being, and was driven forth from your assembly.
And now, why do ye magnify yourselves over Adam? If ye were as he
is, and I had created you of water and dust, ye would have been flesh
and blood (incarnate), and ye would have transgressed My
commandment (His law prohibiting sexual relations) more than he has
done, and denied My word.‖ And the angels said unto Him, ―Praise be
unto thee, O Lord! Far be it from us! We will not transgress Thy
commandment, and we will not oppose Thy word; for we are spiritual
beings for life, and he is a creature of dust doomed to folly. And now
try us well, and put us to the test so that Thou mayest know whether we
are able to keep Thy word.‖ And when they had vaunted themselves in
this manner, God, the lover of men, said unto them, ―If now ye go astray
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so far as transgressing My word, the wrong will be upon your own
heads, for Jahannam, and fire, and sulphur, and fervent heat,
(imprisonment within the earth) and whirlwind (a whirlwind is
analogous of a cherub; this is a reference to imprisonment within their
cherubim within the earth) shall be your habitation until the Great Day
(of the punishment of the angels): ye shall be kept in chains which can
neither be loosened or broken for ever (confined after Judgment in the
Black Hole called Hell)…And you, according to what ye wish, there
shall be upon you the mind of a man and the body of a man (the
rebellious angels were made incarnate). But take good heed to
yourselves that ye not transgress My word and break not My
commandment; and defile not ye yourselves with eating, or drinking,
or fornication, or with any other thing whatsoever; and transgress ye
not My word.‖ - The Kebra-Nagast Chapter 100
A group of rebellious angels including Azazel and 199 of his
angelic followers were exiled to our Earth in 5000 B.C. after the deaths
of Adam and Eve as a direct result of the incident in the Garden of Eden.
After the angels reviled Adam for breaking God‘s law, God replied that
the angels would have done far worse had they themselves been in his
position. The rebellious angels objected, saying they would not do as
Adam had unjustly done. God decided to put them to the test, sending
them to our Earth as angels incarnate under the threat of punishment
that if they transgressed as Adam had before them they would be
entrapped and imprisoned within the earth until the great Judgment of
the Angels as a chastisement.
When Azazel and his angels were driven from the New Earth by
God after the incident with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, they
were sent to our Earth:
―And certainly We (God and Jesus) created man of clay (which is
matter) that gives forth sound (sound/longitudinal waves), of black mud
fashioned in shape. And the jinn (the rebellious angels) We created
before (before man was created of matter), of intensely hot fire (of
electromagnetic transverse waves; of electricity). And when your Lord
(God) said to the angels: Surely I am going to create a mortal of the
essence of black mud fashioned in shape. So when I have made him
(Adam) complete and breathed into him My spirit, fall down making
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obeisance to him. So the angels made obeisance, all of them together,
But Iblis (Satan. The Book of the Rolls identifies Iblis as Satan) (did it
not); he refused to be with those who made obeisance. He (God) said:
Iblis (Satan)! what excuse have you that you are not with those who
made obeisance? He (Satan) said: I am not such that I should make
obeisance to a mortal whom Thou hast created of the essence of black
mud fashioned in shape. He (God) said: Then get out of it, for surely
you are driven away: And surely on you is the curse (of death) until the
day of judgment. He (Satan) said: My Lord! Then respite me till the
time when they (the dead) are raised. He (God) said: So surely you are
of the respited ones till the period of the time made known. He (Satan)
said: My Lord! Because Thou hast made life evil to me, I will certainly
make (evil) fair-seeming to them on the earth (on our Earth), and I will
certainly cause them all to deviate except Thy servants from among
them, the devoted ones. He (God) said: This is a right way with Me:
Surely, as regards My servants, you (Satan) have no authority over
them except those (humans) who follow you of the deviators (See
The Testament of Joseph 1:55). And surely Hell is the promised
place of them all.‖ - The Koran 15.26-43 (Jewish religious tradition bears witness to the
events spoken of here in The Koran) (This passage is recounted in full on p. 53 of The Religion
of the Koran by Sir Arthur N. Wollaston (1911 A.D.). Wollaston provided English translations
of a number of Eastern works)
God made the rebellious angels incarnate and sent some of them
away to our Earth. Satan made a pledge to corrupt as many of mankind
as possible. Knowing his punishment was eternal punishment in hell,
he would take as many along with him as he could:
―And when We (God and Jesus) said to the angels: Make obeisance to
Adam; they made obeisance but Iblis (Satan) (did it not). He (Satan)
said: Shall I make obeisance to him (Adam) whom Thou (God) hast
created of dust? He (Satan) said: Tell me, is this he whom Thou (God)
hast honored above me? If Thou (God) shouldst respite me (Satan) to
the day of resurrection, I will most certainly cause his progeny to perish
except a few. He (God) said: Be gone! (to our Earth) for whoever of
them will follow you, then surely hell is your recompense, a full
recompense: And beguile whomsoever of them you can with your
voice, and collect against them your forces riding and on foot, and share
with them in wealth and children, and hold out promises to them; and
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the Shaitan makes not promises to them but to deceive: surely (as for)
My (God‘s) servants, you have no authority over them; and your Lord
(God) is sufficient as a protector.‖ - The Koran 17.61-65
Principles of the New Covenant (also known as The Dialogue of
the Savior) Chapter 4 verse 1 explains: ―The gods of darkness (read: the
rebellious angels) desire to enslave the children of the Aadamah…they
desire that mankind should join their miserable existence.‖
Many fell (and are currently falling) for Satan‘s deception:
―And when We (God and Jesus) said to the angels: Make obeisance to
Adam; they (the angels) made obeisance but Iblis (Satan) (did it not).
He was of the jinn (the angels who rebelled), so he transgressed the
commandment of his Lord. What! Would you then take him and his
offspring for friends rather than Me (rather than God), and they are
your enemies? Evil is (this) change for the unjust.‖ - The Koran 18.50
―When the Lord (God) said to the angels; Surely I am going to create a
mortal from dust: So when I have made him complete and breathed into
him My spirit, then fall down making obeisance to him. And the
angels did obeisance, all of them, but not Iblis (Satan): he was proud and
he was one of the unbelievers. He (Satan) said: I am better than he
(Adam); Thou hast created me of fire, and him Thou didst create of dust.
He (God) said: Then get out of it, for surely you are driven away: and
surely my curse is on you to the day of judgment. He (Satan) said: My
Lord! Then respite me till the day (the day of which he speaks is the day
of the First-Resurrection) that they are raised (resurrected). He (God)
said, Surely you are of the respited ones (one of a number of respited
ones), till the period of time made known. He (Satan) said: Then by Thy
Might I will surely make them an evil life, all, except Thy servants from
among them, the purified ones. He (God) said: The truth then is and the
truth do I speak: that I will most certainly fill hell with you and with
those among them who follow you, all. Say: I do not ask you for any
reward for it; nor am I of those who affect: it is nothing but a reminder to
the nations; and most certainly you will come to know about it after a
time (the time is now, and now you know).‖ - The Koran 38.71-88
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Some angels reviled the newly created Adam. The angels were
jealous of Adam, whom God had created to be over all His creations,
including the angels themselves. The angels accused Adam of being
unworthy of such honor, even questioning God‘s good judgment; they
attempted to overthrow God and failing to do so, at last engineered
Adam‘s fall. So God sent them away to our Earth, testing the angels
according to their own plan (for they held that their conduct would be
more righteous than mans) knowing that their conduct would be worse
than that of mankind. In Kebra-Nagast we are told:
―And there were certain angels with whom God was wroth…they
reviled Adam…―why do ye magnify yourselves over Adam? If ye
were as he, and I had created you of water and dust, ye would have been
flesh and blood (incarnate), and ye would have transgressed My (God‘s)
commandment more than he hath done, and denied My word.‖ And
the angels said unto Him, ―Praise be unto Thee, O Lord! Far be it from
us! We will not transgress Thy commandment, and we will not oppose
Thy word; for we are spiritual beings for life, and he is a creature of dust
(doomed) to folly. And now try us well, and put us to the test so that
Thou mayest know whether we are able to keep Thy word.‖ ―And to
you (angels), according to what ye wish, there shall be upon you the
mind of a man and the body of a man (God made these angels
incarnate). But take good heed to yourselves that ye transgress not My
word and break not My commandment; and defile not ye yourselves
with eating, or drinking, or fornication, or with any other thing
whatsoever; and transgress ye not My word.‖ And straightway there
were given unto them with His word flesh, and blood, and a heart of the
children of men (the angels were made incarnate). And they (the
angels) were content to leave the height of heaven, and they (the angels)
came down to earth (to our Earth)…‖ - Kebra-Nagast: Chapter 100 (See also Imrei
Noam by Rabbi Eliyahu Mevilna. In addition, this story is also contained in the 10th Century
A.D. Midrash on the Book of Genesis known as the Aggadat Bereshit) (The Egyptian Mysteries
centered upon the Egyptian priest‘s secret knowledge regarding the fallen angels, beings whom
they revered as gods. As related in the Crata Repoa, subtitled ‗Initiations to the Ancient
Mysteries of the Priests of Egypt,‘ initiates into the Egyptian Mysteries were subjected to tests
designed to mimic the experience of Azazel and his fallen angels at the time of their descent to
our Earth, particularly by putting to test their ability to control their sexual urges when subjected
to the sexual advances of the most beautiful of women, tests which the incarnate angels
themselves had failed. Initiates into the Egyptian Mysteries were prior to these tests required to
take an oath of fidelity, and were like the angels required to remain chaste. And woe to those
initiates who failed this test. As was the case with the angels before them, failing this test
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resulted in the most dire of consequences. Most mystery religions had some sort of celibacy
requirement, harkening back to the celibate state expected of these angels. This tradition was
later continued by the Roman Catholic Church through the chastity requirements placed upon its
priests)

10thlight
19-09-2012, 04:23 PM
The Book of Enoch continues the story of the angels‘ descent to
our Earth and relates to us how in the days of Jarod 200 angels landed on
Mt. Hermon amongst the Anti-Lebanon mountain range on the
Lebanon-Syrian border, taking up residence amongst the human
population of the Earth, mating with them and corrupting mankind with
their knowledge. It was at this time that the angel Azazel, banished
from the New Earth by God, arrived on our Earth. We can ascertain
from the Book of Genesis that Jarod was born 465 years after the
appearance of Adam. It may also be ascertained that he died 1427
years after the appearance of Adam. Hence, the time frame of ―the
days of Jarod‖ mentioned in The Book of Enoch when the angels came
to Mt. Hermon, may be determined. The ―days of Jarod‖ themselves
span the years between 5535 B.C. and 4573 B.C.
We are also definitively told in The Book of Enoch
―righteousness still endured‖ during the ―first week,‖ that is, during the
first one thousand years (from 6000 B.C.- 5000 B.C.). Thus, the
appearance of the angels corresponds to the beginning of the ―second
week‖ of Enoch‘s prophecy in the year 5000 B.C. These 200 angels
would have appeared on Mt. Hermon in 5000 B.C. teaching the human
inhabitants of our Earth many ―mysteries‖ such as metallurgy and
warfare, influencing human affairs. The date of their descent
corresponds to the beginning of the Pottery Neolithic B Period
(5000-4300 B.C.) in Palestine. As a result of the angels‘ introduction
of the art of warfare to mankind in 5000 B.C., the settlement activity
initiated at the time of the appearance of Adam declined while some
cities were even depopulated as is substantiated by the archaeological
record.
The following is an excerpt from The Book of Jubilees:
―…she bare him a son…he called his name Jarod, for in his days the
angels of the Lord descended on the earth (the angels came to our
Earth from the New Earth), those (angels) whose name are the
Watchers, that they should instruct the children of men, and that they
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should do judgment and uprightness on the earth.‖ - The Book of Jubilees
IV.15 (The New Earth, from whence came the angels, the creation of which is related in Genesis
2:4-25, is likely located amongst the seven stars of the Pleiades group. Amos 5:8 tells us God
created the Pleiades, where the New Earth is located. The Pleiades are again mentioned in Job
9:9 and Job 38:31 as being specifically God‘s creation. The Pleiades are also located in the
astrological group of stars in the sign of Taurus. Taurus is represented as a bull, also a common
symbol for an angel. According to Freemasonic teachings, being derived from the teachings of
the ancient Mysteries, the Pleiades are seven stars situated at the upper end of a great Sacred
Ladder. If we assume that our Earth is at the bottom of this ladder, and the angels move up and
down it, as we esoterically learn from the Biblical parable of Jacob‘s Ladder (See Genesis
28:12), this would show the Freemason‘s own esoteric knowledge that the New Earth, from
where the incarnated angels came to our Earth, is located amongst the Pleiades group. Indeed,
in some versions of the story of the angels‘ descent to our Earth, the angels are said to descend
down ―Jacob‘s Ladder.‖ Jacob’s Ladder is the name by which is known the route traversed by
the angels in their descent from the New Earth in the Pleiades group to our own Earth. For this
reason, the Egyptian god Horus, who represented the angel Azazel, is called the ―traverser of the
two earths‖ (See The Origin and Evolution of Freemasonry (Albert Churchward, 1920 A.D.)
(Author‘s Note: There is a pre-Inca mythology which holds their gods had come from the
Pleiades constellation, and the name of the Hindu God Kartikeya translates as ‗Him of the
Pleiades.‘ Additionally, according to the Pleiades selection from the Gale Encyclopedia of
Occultism & Parapsychology: ―Early in the twentieth century, the leader (33° Freemason
Charles Taze Russell) of the group (of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society) later known as
the Jehovah's Witnesses suggested that one of the stars of the Pleiades was actually the throne of
the Lord God Jehovah.‖ As pointed out by S.F. Dunlap of the American Oriental Society in his
book Vestiges of the Spirit History of Man p.25 (1858 A.D.), the god “Baal = Jehova.” The
Semitic god Baal (which word translates as ‗lord‘), the 850 prophets of whom the lone prophet
Elijah famously slew as piously recounted in the Biblical First Book of Kings (See 1Kings
18:19,40), represented none other than the fallen angel Azazel, who was also known as Jehova).
Compare the word Jehovah to Jove (another name for the Roman god Jupiter), who also
represented Azazel. A watchtower is an esoteric symbol of Azazel, as it is from such an
exalted edifice the Greek god Bacchus (who likewise represented Azazel) was said to watch
over the grape vines from which he made his wine. Also. The Tower of Babel, as we shall see,
was erected in Azazel‘s honor). Notable quote: ―If flying saucers actually exist as
extraterrestrial spaceships, then the Pleiades might deserve a place high on the list of possible
origins.‖ – p.176 Why UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse (John A. Keel, 1970 A.D.).
God commanded and sent a detachment of alien angelic beings
capable of interstellar flight to come to our Earth from an otherworldly
planet known as the New Earth in order that the technologically
advanced angels would teach ancient human populations on our Earth to
be righteous according to the laws of God. These angels were given a
directive by agreement: they were sent under orders to benefit mankind
and not to transgress the laws of God as Adam whom they reviled had
so done. These angels, however, like Adam before them, transgressed
the commands of God, mating with Earth women, teaching a multitude
of evils to mankind. The Book of Enoch tells us there were 200 angels
(the Watchers) who were involved in this mission. Amongst this group
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of angels was the Genesis serpent Azazel of Garden of Eden fame
(Satan was not amongst this group). This detachment of angels, and
these would be traveling in interstellar spacecraft known as cherubim,
traveled to our Earth and landed upon Mount Hermon in Syria:
‗And they (the angels) were in all two hundred; who descended in the
days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon…‖ - 1Enoch VI. 6 (Enoch was
the son of Jarod (See Genesis 5:24). The Book of Enoch was considered part of formal
Christian scripture until the 3rd century A.D. when the book was banned by the Roman Catholic
Church)
Their numbers are confirmed by The Kawan:
―…the two hundred demons (read: rebellious fallen angels) came down
to the sphere (to the Earth) from the high heaven…‖ - The Kawan M363 (See
also M101 Fragment j of The Kawan. The two hundred trees therein represent these two
hundred angels. Trees are often used analogously with angels)
The Book of Enoch purports to know many of the names of
these angels who landed upon Mount Hermon and goes as far as to
identify those angels responsible for this affair:
―…Jeqon: that is, the one who led astray [all] the sons (angels) of God,
and brought them (the angels) down to the earth, and led them astray
through the daughters of men. And the second was named Asbeel: he
imparted to the holy ones (angels) of God evil counsel, and led them
astray so that they defiled their bodies with the daughters of men.‖ -
1Enoch LXIX. 4-5 (It is the angel Jeqon who is ―the first star (the angel) which led the way‖
spoken of in 1Enoch XC.21. Stars are a common symbol for angels and their cherubim)
1Enoch VI.7 contains a lengthy list of the names of 18 angels
who are amongst the commanders of the expedition of two hundred
angels who were sent as Watchers to our Earth. These angels are
described as ―chiefs of tens,‖ each angelic commander commanding a
troop comprised of ten angels. These include their leader Semiazaz
(See 1Enoch IX.7). The troop commanders in this heavenly
detachment include the angels Arakiba, Rameel, Kokabiel, Tamiel,
Ramiel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel,
Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael and Sariel. These 18 are
amongst the twenty chiefs of ten in command of the 200 angel
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detachment sent to our Earth in the days of Jared, son of Lamech.
Upon their arrival, these angels began to mate with the women of the
Earth, transgressing the celibacy laws imposed upon them by God:
―And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and
each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them (having
sexual intercourse with them) and to defile themselves with them…And
they (their wives) became pregnant, and they bare great giants
(angel/human hybrids)…‖ - 1Enoch VII.1,2
According to 1Enoch LXXXVI.1, at the first a lone angel
descended to the Earth, living amongst the human population. Many
angels later followed, joining up with him (See 1Enoch LXXXVI.3).
These angels came in human form.
According to 1Enoch LXXXVI.1-4, alien incarnated angels
came to our planet and set up residence amongst the established human
earthling population, the angels intermating with the female members of
the human race. All of the angels are said to be males, and sexually
well endowed ones at that, being described as angels ―whose privy
members were like those of horses‖ (See 1Enoch XC.21).
It was said of these angels:
―…they (the 200 angels) have gone to the daughters of men upon the
earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and
revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have borne giants
(angel/human hybrids), and the whole earth has thereby been filled with
blood and unrighteousness.‖ - 1Enoch IX.8-9
and:
―You (read: the rebellious fallen angels) have been in heaven, but all the
mysteries had not yet been revealed to you, and you knew worthless
ones, and these in the hardness of your hearts you have made known to
the women (with which they cohabitated), and through these mysteries
women and men work much evil on the earth.‖ - 1Enoch XVI.3 (See also Surah
72.6 of The Koran. The jinn therein mentioned are Azazel and the angels who came with him to
our Earth)
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It was concerning these angels of which the following scripture
speaks:
―And Uriel said to me: ‗Here shall stand the angels who have connected
themselves with women, and their spirits assuming many different
forms are defiling mankind and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to
demons as gods, (here shall they stand), till the day of the great
judgment in which they shall be judged till they are made an end of.‖ -
1Enoch XIX.1 (According to The Book of Baruch, Israel was carried off into the Babylonian
captivity because ―you (the people of Israel) provoked him (God) who made you by sacrificing
to demons and not to God.‖ - The Book of Baruch 4:7. The people of Israel worshipped and
offered sacrifices to idols. It is the spirits and the fallen angels which the idols represented
which were worshipped, not the idols as such themselves. The worship of demons is called
‗demonolatry‘) (Origen in his Contra Celsus, Book 6 Chapter XXXIX tells us ―those who
employ the arts of magic and sorcery…invoke the barbarous names of demons.‖ The human
wives of the alien angels were also known as demonialitas. The earliest author to use the word
―demonialitas‖ is the 17th Century Spanish Cistercian Bishop Giovanni Caramuel Lobkowitz in
his censured work entitled Theologia Fundamentalis published in 1676 A.D. Sex between
humans and angels is known as demoniality)
…and again:
―…the angels…descended to the earth, and revealed what was hidden to
the children of men (to humans) and seduced the children of men into
committing sin.‖ - 1Enoch LXIV.2 (See also Zohar 3:208a where Aza‘el = Azazel))
The Book of Enoch sheds light on the kinds of mysteries the
angels revealed to mankind. According to 1Enoch LXIX the angel
Gadreel taught men the ways of war (as did Azazel. See 1Enoch
VIII.1), Penemue taught them writing and Kasdeja revealed medical
teachings including abortion. According to 1Enoch VIII the angel
Semjaza taught agricultural secrets, Baraqijal taught astrology, and
Kokabel taught them astronomy. In addition to instructing them in the
ways of war, Azazel also taught mankind about metallurgy, how to
make the weapons of war (in such capacity he was worshipped by the
Romans as Vulcan and the Greeks as Hephaestus, the god of
metalworking, arms and armor), how to make jewelry, eye-makeup and
about gold and silver and precious stones, which is to say, he taught
them about money, the love of which is the root of all evil. In such a
capacity he was worshipped as Mammon, the Syrian god of riches. It
must also be noted the Bronze Age in the Middle East (5000 B.C. - 1200
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B.C.) began at precisely the time of the appearance of these angels in the
year 5000 B.C. During the Bronze Age period the first weapons made
of metals appear, corresponding with the appearance of the martially
oriented metalworking angel Azazel. In addition, gold was one of the
chief metals used during the Bronze Age. The archaeological record
thus totally agrees with the facts revealed in The Book of Enoch
(1Enoch) concerning the teachings of the angel Azazel and of the angels
who accompanied him to our Earth and the impact they had pon the
ancient cultures. (Notable quote: ―…when the Bronze-age arose the Horned God
(who represents Azazel) is found through all Europe from East to West. The fierce
tribes (composed of angel/human hybrids) who brought in the Iron-age destroyed the
greater part of the previous civilisation, and possibly the previous inhabitants…‖ –
The God of the Witches (Margaret Alice Murray, D.Lit., ―Fellow of University College,
London,‖ 1933 A.D.))
The Apocalypse of Abraham 14:4 calls Azazel ―him who has
scattered about the earth the secrets of heaven.‖ Kephalaia
(Discourses) Chapter 92 tells us ―the Egregoroi (the Grigori; the angels)
of Heaven…descended to the earth. They did all deeds of malice.
They revealed the arts in the world, and the mysteries of heaven to the
men. Rebellion and ruin came about on the earth.‖
As God so rightfully prophesied the rebellious angels
transgressed the commandments of God even more so than Adam had
before them:
―And to you (the rebellious fallen angels), according to what ye wish,
there shall be upon you the mind of a man and the body of a man (God
made these angels incarnate). But take good heed to yourselves that ye
transgress not My word and break not My commandment; and defile
not ye yourselves with eating, or drinking, or fornication, or with any
other thing whatsoever; and transgress ye not My word.‖ And
straightway there were given unto them with His word flesh, and blood,
and a heart of the children of men (they were incarnate). And they
were content to leave the height of heaven, and they came down to earth
(to our Earth), to the folly of the dancing of the children of Cain…And
their (the children of Cain‘s) daughters were there, and they (the angels)
enjoyed the orgies without shame…And the men (the angels in bodies
of men) did not restrain themselves for a moment, but they took to wife
from among women those whom they had chosen, and committed sin
53with them…And the daughters of Cain with whom the angels had
accompanied conceived…‖ - Kebra-Nagast: Chapter 100 (It must be remembered,
Cain was the son of the angel Azazel by Eve, and he was banished to the native human
population on the Earth (See Genesis 4:12-17). Cain and his offspring had 1,000 years to
interbreed before the appearance of these 200 angels upon our Earth. The numbers of Cain‘s
offspring must have been relatively substantial) (―Between Science and Theosophy there is a
wide gulf, for the present unbridged, on the question of the origin of man and the differentiation
of species…And yet the religious expounders are nearer than science to the truth. Under the
religious superstition about Adam and Eve (See Genesis 2:4- Genesis 5:5) is hidden the truth,
and in the tales of Cain (See Genesis 4:1-24), Seth (See Genesis 4:25-Genesis 5:8), and Noah
(See Genesis 5:28-10:1) is vaguely shadowed the real story of the other races of men, Adam
being but the representative of one single race. The people who received Cain (who was the son
of Eve, fathered by the angel Azazel) and gave him a wife (as related in Genesis 4:16-17) were
some of those human races (Cain‘s descendents were known as the Cainites) which had
appeared simultaneously with the one headed by Adam (of the line of Seth, through Abraham,
the blood-line of Jesus. Seth was the second son of Adam (See Genesis 4:25, Genesis 17:5, and
Matthew 1:1-16).‖ - Ocean of Theosophy (William Q. Judge 1893 A.D.) Chapter XV)
The following is from the storehouse of Kabalistic knowledge
The Zohar:
―…Uzza (Semjaza) and Azael (Azazel), who rebelled above, were cast
down by the Blessed Holy One (by God), and materialized on earth,
abiding on it…Subsequently they strayed after earthly women…They
engendered children, whom they called Mighty Giants…‖ - Zohar 1:58a
(See also Zohar 1:37a) (The Apocalypse of Abraham 13:6,7 states: ―And it came to pass when I
saw the bird (speaks of Azazel‘s propensity for wearing bird‘s wing costumes) speaking I said to
the angel: ―What is this my lord?‖ And he said, ―This is disgrace, this is Azazel!‖ And he said
to him, ―Shame on you Azazel! For Abraham‘s portion is in heaven, and yours is on the earth,
for you have selected here, (and) become enamored of the dwelling place of your blemish.
Therefore the Eternal Ruler (God), the Mighty One, has given you (Azazel) a dwelling on
earth.‖ The ‗earth‘ of which he speaks is our Earth) (According to Tanna d. b. R. Yishma'el:
"The Azazel goat was to atone for the wicked deeds of 'Uzza and 'Azzael (Azazel), the leaders
of the rebellious hosts (of angels) in the time of Enoch" (Yoma 67b))

angelthecat
19-09-2012, 04:23 PM
in a nutshell, no ascended masters just servants :)

10thlight
19-09-2012, 04:42 PM
in a nutshell, no ascended masters just servants :)Yes.They had knowledge from the begining.
Humanity has been dumbed down over time.
There our good beings too dont get me wrong.Its not all black and white.But serious if you were good would u want to get trapped down here?
Im sure there is some that want redemption and may being working for the true light.I have to think that way.

I have been wondering if the fallen angels have been caring the torch of the religions.Since they probably pissed at "satan too"
We are to dumb down and limited in the 5 senses to know the spec of everything.

My conclusion is we are all naive in some fields of knowledge and more.And there is more going on than we know.There is nothing new under the sun.

In this day in age you have to be wise as serpents more then ever.
I find religious people are naive and blind too if not more so.
Religions are traps too.
I hate labels.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 04:58 PM
The archaeological record
thus totally agrees with the facts revealed in The Book of Enoch
(1Enoch) concerning the teachings of the angel Azazel and of the angels
who accompanied him to our Earth and the impact they had pon the
ancient cultures.Ancient cultures didn't need or have alien intervention. Everything we see from the past is perfectly explainable by evolution.

megahertz
19-09-2012, 04:58 PM
So when Satan and the fallen angels are sent to the lake what changes will there be from the time they had on earth before the flood. There will be no men there and they will feel thirst and can experience pain. Are there any other changes they will endure?

megahertz
19-09-2012, 05:00 PM
Ancient cultures didn't need or have alien intervention. Everything we see from the past is perfectly explainable by evolution.
Adaptation covers the differences in land, sea and air creations, there is no 'proof' that any species bridges the gaps between those 3 forms of life.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 05:09 PM
Adaptation covers the differences in land, sea and air creations, there is no 'proof' that any species bridges the gaps between those 3 forms of life.And what kind of argument is this? Are you expecting a flying gilled creature?

If that is the case, then here you go:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Pink-wing_flying_fish.jpg/220px-Pink-wing_flying_fish.jpg

Flying fish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

10thlight
19-09-2012, 05:23 PM
So when Satan and the fallen angels are sent to the lake what changes will there be from the time they had on earth before the flood. There will be no men there and they will feel thirst and can experience pain. Are there any other changes they will endure?
What ever happened before the flood which all cultures talk about is the same stuff u are starting to see today with chemtrails, messing with genes giants gmos underground labs human mutations and animals ect.
IT will be the war of the gods again.IF we continue down this path of what we are on.And the nwo order is going full steam down it.Because they follow there master who wants to take all humanity with him.

The ascended masters are gonna come as the saviours but is a trap this is what alot of christian believe.
Why 3 world wars and so many deaths in the last 100 years my guess it is to release evil beings.

Endtime of this world?
There is already a new earth and when they get destroyed that happens awhile from now after judgement.
They will be deleted or saved and the people who have suffered will judge them on there deeds and accounts.People to will be judged too.Well that is what all the text say in general.
Remember the soul what counts.

People need to understand energetics and know themselves.Be a good person but also know you live in a world full of evil.So you need to understand yin and yang and evil ,but not to become perverted by it.

Most people are good just naive.Because we have become disconnected from the Creator.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 05:27 PM
What ever happened before the flood which all cultures talk about is the same stuff u are starting to see today with chemtrails, messing with genes giants gmos underground labs human mutations and animals ect.There is no way that a world wide flood is possible, though flooding does happen in different areas, which explains why most cultures have a flood myth. It's like, it rained in the north and the south, both wrote about it, but that doesn't mean it was raining in both places at the same exact times.
Most people are good just naive.Because we have become disconnected from the Creator.You're using Christian mythos to purport the existence of a non defined deity? That is strange.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 05:29 PM
And what kind of argument is this? Are you expecting a flying gilled creature?

If that is the case, then here you go:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Pink-wing_flying_fish.jpg/220px-Pink-wing_flying_fish.jpg

Flying fish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_fish)
Maybe you should look into the nazi and see what they were looking at and where did they go and why they believed what they did.?And how they got all these ideas for there advance weapons and technology.
Look at last world war. world war 2 and connect the dots.Follow the money.

You know people set boxes on themselves and blind themselves from looking out side there box.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 05:31 PM
There is no way that a world wide flood is possible, though flooding does happen in different areas, which explains why most cultures have a flood myth. It's like, it rained in the north and the south, both wrote about it, but that doesn't mean it was raining in both places at the same exact times.
You're using Christian mythos to purport the existence of a non defined deity? That is strange.
lol.look at a globe and look at the land continents see how it connect and lines up .lol its so obvious
you can tell the land was split from water.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 05:32 PM
lol.look at a globe and look at the land continents see how it connect and lines up .lol its so obvious
you can tell the land was split from water.
sorry about the lol's

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 05:34 PM
Maybe you should look into the nazi and see what they were looking at and where did they go and why they believed what they did.?And how they got all these ideas for there advance weapons and technology.
Look at last world war. world war 2 and connect the dots.Follow the money.

You know people set boxes on themselves and blind themselves from looking out side there box.What? None of that has anything to do with this thread. Wow.

Why do creationists always resort to "nazi nazi nazi nazi"?

lol.look at a globe and look at the land continent see how it connect and lines up .lol its so obviousEhm, again, it is not possible for a world wide flood. In the very simplest way to explain it, the salt and fresh water would not be able to mix, and had they done so, the fish would have died. There are a lot of websites that explain how it's not possible. I can post a few links if you would like to learn more. It's really fascinating though, to think about and learn where the myths do indeed derive from :)

10thlight
19-09-2012, 05:35 PM
What? None of that has anything to do with this thread. Wow.

Why do creationists always resort to "nazi nazi nazi nazi"?

Ehm, again, it is not possible for a world wide flood. In the very simplest way to explain it, the salt and fresh water would not be able to mix, and had they done so, the fish would have died. There are a lot of websites that explain how it's not possible. I can post a few links if you would like to learn more. It's really fascinating though, to think about and learn where the myths do indeed derive from :)
If only you knew it has everything to do with this thread.
Go down the rabbit hole more..

10thlight
19-09-2012, 05:37 PM
What? None of that has anything to do with this thread. Wow.

Why do creationists always resort to "nazi nazi nazi nazi"?

Ehm, again, it is not possible for a world wide flood. In the very simplest way to explain it, the salt and fresh water would not be able to mix, and had they done so, the fish would have died. There are a lot of websites that explain how it's not possible. I can post a few links if you would like to learn more. It's really fascinating though, to think about and learn where the myths do indeed derive from :)
Dont bother i have looked into all this stuff.
There was a world wide flood.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 05:40 PM
If only you knew it has everything to do with this thread.I don't think Nazis were around when the book of Enoch was written, nor are they a mythological race of creatures, nor "aliens", therefore, they are completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand and just a diversion tactic to sway away from actually addressing the content of my post. I think it's a straw man, might be a different one though, still a fallacy none the less.
Go down the rabbit hole more..Unfortunately, I don't think I can fit in rabbit holes. I mean, it would be pretty cool to chill with a bunny in their home turf, but also it would be really cramped and I don't think they would have any booze, so no, I don't think I'll go down any rabbit holes... Unless of course you know a large size one with rabbits that drink booze, erm, no furries please. :)

10thlight
19-09-2012, 05:43 PM
I don't think Nazis were around when the book of Enoch was written, nor are they a mythological race of creatures, nor "aliens", therefore, they are completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand and just a diversion tactic to sway away from actually addressing the content of my post. I think it's a straw man, might be a different one though, still a fallacy none the less.
Unfortunately, I don't think I can fit in rabbit holes. I mean, it would be pretty cool to chill with a bunny in their home turf, but also it would be really cramped and I don't think they would have any booze, so no, I don't think I'll go down any rabbit holes... Unless of course you know a large size one with rabbits that drink booze, erm, no furries please. :)
Enjoy the box.People can only help Themself.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 05:47 PM
Enjoy the box.People can only help Themself.Why do you post these threads if you cannot even have a conversation about what you have posted?

positive_forward
19-09-2012, 05:50 PM
How many threads has the OP started, I counted about 90 in this forum section, wtf is that all about? I smell a kosher spam bot spreading disinformation misinformation (usual agenda) they keep cropping up here. I know that's what they do one of their agents admitted they do this on many forums. Probably another sock puppet. The awful grammar looks familiar.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 05:50 PM
Why do you post these threads if you cannot even have a conversation about what you have posted?
I post this thread to shed light.
Why dont you look at a globe and look at the land content and for get what you have been told and see for yourself.
there
http://live.regnumchristi.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/world-globe.jpg

10thlight
19-09-2012, 05:52 PM
I post this thread to shed light.
Why dont you look at a globe and look at the land content and for get what you have been told and see for yourself.
there
http://live.regnumchristi.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/world-globe.jpg

Forgot what anybody has told you.
As you can see the continents with your own eyes.They use to connect water split it from inside the earth.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 05:55 PM
Forgot what anybody has told you.
As you can see the continents with your own eyes.They use to connect water split it from inside the earth.

Have you used a jig saw puzzle before?
Its elementary.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 05:57 PM
Truth is simple.Its all the bull sh6t that makes it confusing.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 05:59 PM
I post this thread to shed light.You're not really shedding light though, if you are just going to attack people when they question or try to discuss the content. When you post something online on an open forum, people are open to form their own opinion on it. If you cannot even converse with someone, they that is quite "dark", not light.
Why dont you look at a globe and look at the land content and for get what you have been told and see for yourself.
there
http://live.regnumchristi.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/world-globe.jpgokay, I guess I will post those links.

This site is very easy to navigate and tackles the issues with a global flood one by one.
Problems with a Global Flood
(http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html)

Grand Canyon carved by floodwater — debunked! (http://www.grandcanyonsouthrim.org/videos/grand-canyon-carved-by-floodwater-debunked)

So, if you cannot acknowledge that the Bible might be (is) wrong about a global flood, how can you say you are "shedding light"? If anything, trying to convince people that old myths are truths is keeping them in the dark, the completely opposite.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 06:03 PM
You're not really shedding light though, if you are just going to attack people when they question or try to discuss the content. When you post something online on an open forum, people are open to form their own opinion on it. If you cannot even converse with someone, they that is quite "dark", not light.
okay, I guess I will post those links.

This site is very easy to navigate and tackles the issues with a global flood one by one.
Problems with a Global Flood
(http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html)

Grand Canyon carved by floodwater — debunked! (http://www.grandcanyonsouthrim.org/videos/grand-canyon-carved-by-floodwater-debunked)

So, if you cannot acknowledge that the Bible might be (is) wrong about a global flood, how can you say you are "shedding light"? If anything, trying to convince people that old myths are truths is keeping them in the dark, the completely opposite.
Serious you cant see it.What part of the globes picture can you not see it once connected?
Forget what you have been told by science, christianity and indigenous cultures and there paintings ect around the world.

Come from a open mind and what do you see.
Dont be locked in any view point.
It is obvious.
You see it now?

10thlight
19-09-2012, 06:06 PM
You're not really shedding light though, if you are just going to attack people when they question or try to discuss the content. When you post something online on an open forum, people are open to form their own opinion on it. If you cannot even converse with someone, they that is quite "dark", not light.
okay, I guess I will post those links.

This site is very easy to navigate and tackles the issues with a global flood one by one.
Problems with a Global Flood
(http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html)

Grand Canyon carved by floodwater — debunked! (http://www.grandcanyonsouthrim.org/videos/grand-canyon-carved-by-floodwater-debunked)

So, if you cannot acknowledge that the Bible might be (is) wrong about a global flood, how can you say you are "shedding light"? If anything, trying to convince people that old myths are truths is keeping them in the dark, the completely opposite.

IM not coming from any angle the bible doesnt just say it is china india africa there indigenous cultures around the world that talk about it in cave painting. ect.
But yea look at it from all perspectives then come back with a open mind and it is obvious.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 06:09 PM
Free your mind and the rest will follow.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 06:13 PM
IM not coming from any angle the bible doesnt just say it is china india africa there indigenous cultures around the world that talk about it in cave painting. ect.
But yea look at it from all perspectives then come back with a open mind and it is obvious.this is what I was trying to explain earlier, floods happen in any part of the world where there are large bodies of water near land.


Free your mind and the rest will follow.believing in a world wide flood isn't "freeing your mind", its conforming to the religion a lot of us were raised into and have moved on from thanks to education.

Did you check out the link that a world wide flood is not possible? It's quite interesting to see how improbable the event would be.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 06:22 PM
this is what I was trying to explain earlier, floods happen in any part of the world where there are large bodies of water near land.


believing in a world wide flood isn't "freeing your mind", its conforming to the religion a lot of us were raised into and have moved on from thanks to education.

Did you check out the link that a world wide flood is not possible? It's quite interesting to see how improbable the event would be.
yes, i skimmed through it same bs
i dont buy evolution billion of years crap.
People throw out a big number just because it makes them sound smart.
When you look at cultures and cities how things change in the now and last 100 years. Imagine 1000 years or more.People only live 70 to 90 some years.
Humans are very naive and manipulated to easy.Dont believe religions to about everything.Also look into darwin and where he got his idea from.
What christians say is that its you only need one type of dog why you dont need alot of different animals. ect

I take a open mind.

Forget what the bible says just look at the globe.
Also,How can people from all around the world talk about a flood?

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 06:29 PM
yes, i skimmed through it same bs
i dont buy evolution billion of years crap.The specific link was about the impossibility of a global flood. We're not talking about evolution right now.
Forget what the bible says just look at the globe.
Also,How can people from all around the world talk about a flood?Any place near water can flood, heck, even places not near water can. It's not like floods are only possible in certain places in the world. If we got the weather reports for the past 10 years from every city in the world, and 87% of them reported floods at some point, that does not mean they were all flooded at the same time. Perhaps now you will understand a little better. If not, I will try to explain it more simply.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 06:31 PM
this is what I was trying to explain earlier, floods happen in any part of the world where there are large bodies of water near land.


believing in a world wide flood isn't "freeing your mind", its conforming to the religion a lot of us were raised into and have moved on from thanks to education.

Did you check out the link that a world wide flood is not possible? It's quite interesting to see how improbable the event would be.
I was raised a christian too.And i think most christians are morons.And alot of new age people are too.People everywhere are.People conform to groups it makes them feel good about themselves
I dont believe in labels.
Im not conforming to religion but it has alot of truths to.
Theres is a middle ground.
This is why u need to know yourself so you are not swayed by anybody but follow the truth.

The bible has 66 books same number in the kabbalah for the fallen angels ect.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 06:35 PM
I was raised a christian too.And i think most christians are morons.Well I wouldn't go that far. I think they mean well, but just go about showing it in the only way they know how.
And alot of new age people are too.People everywhere are.People conform to groups it makes them feel good about themselves
I dont believe in labels.
Im not conforming to religion but it has alot of truths to.
Theres is a middle ground.
This is why u need to know yourself so you are not swayed by anybody but follow the truth.

The bible has 66 books same number in the kabbalah for the fallen angels ect.This same book is the one you called the believers of morons. Kind of a contradiction, "I think most Christians are morons, but let me go online and try to convince people that the stories in their book are true." Do you see how that is an odd combination?

10thlight
19-09-2012, 06:39 PM
The specific link was about the impossibility of a global flood. We're not talking about evolution right now.
Any place near water can flood, heck, even places not near water can. It's not like floods are only possible in certain places in the world. If we got the weather reports for the past 10 years from every city in the world, and 87% of them reported floods at some point, that does not mean they were all flooded at the same time. Perhaps now you will understand a little better. If not, I will try to explain it more simply.
Human lived ,longer because before the flood because the planet was different then everything was larger plants vegetation more oxygen the world was a different place ect.
The new cycle came about because of the flood.
The earth goes in cycles and things change.
Everything is energy everything.Alot of things can effect the magnetism and different fields of planet earth astroid, planets ,war of gods advanced weapons ect
I have no doubt there was a world flood.No doubt
Like i said before just look at a world map or a globe.
I thing you need to look into energetics
Mainstream like to cover the real stuff up :)

10thlight
19-09-2012, 06:44 PM
Well I wouldn't go that far. I think they mean well, but just go about showing it in the only way they know how.
This same book is the one you called the believers of morons. Kind of a contradiction, "I think most Christians are morons, but let me go online and try to convince people that the stories in their book are true." Do you see how that is an odd combination?
Most are because they are following the nwo order plan.yet they are against it.lol this is why alot are morons/i should use the word naive.but emotion got the best of me
I guess the more you know the more you see things and people dont,because there pastors dont beileve to look at anything besides 66 books.Because they were taught in pastor school seminary
This emplies to everybody because this is how humans think .
They mind gets trained by a building so they think they knoiw it all.
ITs like if you build it they will come scenario.


It is also called ego.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 06:48 PM
Human lived ,longer because before the flood because the planet was different then everything was larger plants vegetation more oxygen the world was a different place ect.Actually, we didn't live as long because there was more disease and food more scarce. What you are believing here is myth, like believing in Zeus living on Mt. Olympus.
The new cycle came about because of the flood.
The earth goes in cycles and things change.
Everything is energy everything.Alot of things can effect the magnetism and different fields of planet earth astroid, planets ,war of gods advanced weapons ect
I have no doubt there was a world flood.No doubt
Like i said before just look at a world map or a globe.
I thing you need to look into energetics
Mainstream like to cover the real stuff up :)This all makes for great science fiction, but as I said, and has been covered on this forum many times as well, there was no global flood. It is impossible. Why do you persist in spreading misinformation?

Most are because they are following the nwo order plan.yet they are against it.lol this is why alot are morons/i should use the word naive.but emotion got the best of me
I guess the more you know the more you see things and people dont,because there pastors dont beilev to look at anything besides 66 books.Because they were taught in past school seminary
This emplies to everybody because this is how humans think .
They mind gets trained by a building so they thinki they knoiw it all.
ITs like if you build it they will come scenario.
It is also called ego.This is very difficult to comprehend, perhaps you can reword it in a more readable fashion?

10thlight
19-09-2012, 06:53 PM
I dont know your path but maybe you havent encounter enough evil people .
To understand Why they use the bible yet hate christians.Because the bible is against there evil way of living
Yes that is a double speak but these people work in cloak in dagger all the time.
This is why i am guessing why you dont understand the bigger picture.
I dont support any religions.
A book doesnt tell you truth you are born in a body that does if u listen to it.
What u perceive in the outer sense is and can become a idol .like a book'
Your body here is your temple here.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 06:56 PM
I dont know your path but maybe you havent encounter enough evil people .
To understand Why they use the bible yet hate christians.Because the bible is against there evil way of living
Yes that is a double speak but these people work in cloak in dagger all the time.
This is why i am guessing why you dont understand the bigger picture.
I dont support any religions.
A book doesnt tell you truth you are born in a body that does if u listen to it.
What u perceive in the outer sense is and can become a idol .like a book'
Your body here is your temple here.If you truly didn't support any religions, then you wouldn't be sitting here trying to convince of the legitimacy of the world flood myth.

megahertz
19-09-2012, 06:58 PM
......there was no global flood. It is impossible. Why do you persist in spreading misinformation?

From the height of the ice-age the oceans rose over 400ft, what part of 'a flood' does that not cover? The Bible's version is 22ft of rain in 40 days where the rain that fell on the high hills and mountain tops was freezing rain or snow, it was 150 days after the rain stopped that the mountain peaks could be seen, it took the rest of a full year before the ice had all melted. (compared to several trillion cubic miles of water needed so the mountains could be covered)

Got any data on the weather patterns that existed when the ice was at it's max?

10thlight
19-09-2012, 07:02 PM
Actually, we didn't live as long because there was more disease and food more scarce. What you are believing here is myth, like believing in Zeus living on Mt. Olympus.
This all makes for great science fiction, but as I said, and has been covered on this forum many times as well, there was no global flood. It is impossible. Why do you persist in spreading misinformation?

This is very difficult to comprehend, perhaps you can reword it in a more readable fashion?
I think you need to study past civilization and stuff.
Are you a 5 sense person?
You probably dont believe in ghost or spirits or entities or magic?

10thlight
19-09-2012, 07:07 PM
If you truly didn't support any religions, then you wouldn't be sitting here trying to convince of the legitimacy of the world flood myth.
I dont at all.I mean abit to creation part and parts of the bible because it has alot of truth in it and the deeper stuff.If you know the occult the more you would know it does.Everything connect more then you think.
But i do point out evil.
Whats your belief since your not a christian, new age?

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 07:12 PM
I think you need to study past civilization and stuff.I actually have and am currently. This is why I can say with confidence that yes there are flood myths in most cultures, but scientifically it is not possible. Did you read what I said earlier about the salt and fresh water mixing? The fish would have died. If there were a global flood, we would not have any fish to this day.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 07:16 PM
I dont at all.I mean abit to creation part and parts of the bible because it has alot of truth in it and the deeper stuff.If you know the occult the more you would know it does.Everything connect more then you think.
But i do point out evil.The bible can be interpreted a gazillion ways, the occulty stuff is just one. I don't know what kinds of "truth" you are finding in a book that gets further and further more refuted with more archaeological finds and studies of the past.

I don't know where you get this "evil" thing from either. There is no "good and evil", those are just adjectives applied by our opinionated brain.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 07:17 PM
I actually have and am currently. This is why I can say with confidence that yes there are flood myths in most cultures, but scientifically it is not possible. Did you read what I said earlier about the salt and fresh water mixing? The fish would have died. If there were a global flood, we would not have any fish to this day.
Yes.
You know there fish in the ocean and lakes and rivers.They live in salt water and not.Also how did fish get up in the lakes on top of mountains?Also when you have that big of a shift in the earth alot of things happens.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 07:23 PM
The bible can be interpreted a gazillion ways, the occulty stuff is just one. I don't know what kinds of "truth" you are finding in a book that gets further and further more refuted with more archaeological finds and studies of the past.

I don't know where you get this "evil" thing from either. There is no "good and evil", those are just adjectives applied by our opinionated brain.
Lol. wow you have no clue.Realy do you!!!
This what happens to people that live in cities people just become naive.
You dont understand rituals do you.
You think all this stuff for thousand and thousand of years is just make believe.
And all the world wars these last century.
I think your mind has put categories/blockages around evil because you dont want to deal with it or understand it.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 07:34 PM
Yes.
You know there fish in the ocean and lakes and rivers.They live in salt water and not.Also how did fish get up in the lakes on top of mountains?Also when you have that big of a shift in the earth alot of things happens.The earth is pretty old and been through a lot of changes, to answer the last part.

For the first, salt water fish cannot survive in fresh water and vice versa, therefore, when the waters would have mixed during a world wide flood (which did not happen. so don't get the idea that I believe it now), then the fish would have died because they cannot survive in the opposite type of water than that which they reside in.

Lol. wow you have no clue.Realy do you!!!
This what happens to people that live in cities people just become naive.
You dont understand rituals do you.
You think all this stuff for thousand and thousand of years is just make believe.
And all the world wars these last century.
I think your mind has put categories/blockages around evil because you dont want to deal with it or understand it.Like I said, there are different ways to interpret myths, and since I never gave my opinion on what ways I think are proper, you've created a straw man with the beginning. Please do not presume to think for me, you are not in my head and do not know me, so it is a fallacy to tell me what I think.

Of course I understand the concept of evil, that is how I was just able to explain to you what it truly is.

megahertz
19-09-2012, 07:41 PM
I actually have and am currently. This is why I can say with confidence that yes there are flood myths in most cultures, but scientifically it is not possible. Did you read what I said earlier about the salt and fresh water mixing? The fish would have died. If there were a global flood, we would not have any fish to this day.
The rain water would have raised to ocean level by 5ft if all the rain came directly from the ice-sheets.
How did the fish in the ocean survive a rise of 400+ft?

10thlight
19-09-2012, 07:41 PM
The earth is pretty old and been through a lot of changes, to answer the last part.

For the first, salt water fish cannot survive in fresh water and vice versa, therefore, when the waters would have mixed during a world wide flood (which did not happen. so don't get the idea that I believe it now), then the fish would have died because they cannot survive in the opposite type of water than that which they reside in.

Like I said, there are different ways to interpret myths, and since I never gave my opinion on what ways I think are proper, you've created a straw man with the beginning. Please do not presume to think for me, you are not in my head and do not know me, so it is a fallacy to tell me what I think.

Of course I understand the concept of evil, that is how I was just able to explain to you what it truly is.
Believe me i do not want to get in your head.
usually I dont participate in the ping pong stuff.but the times we are in now.I am down today.
A there was no oceans before the flood like todays.!!!!!

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 07:43 PM
there was no oceans before the flood like todays.!!!!!wut? Of course there were oceans, even if there was pangea, there was still ocean. Where did you get this information? I should like to speak with the person spreading this bullshit history.

megahertz
19-09-2012, 07:43 PM
Like I said, there are different ways to interpret myths, and since I never gave my opinion on what ways I think are proper, ......
So what is holding you back?

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 07:44 PM
The rain water would have raised to ocean level by 5ft if all the rain came directly from the ice-sheets.
How did the fish in the ocean survive a rise of 400+ft?It didn't just rise over night, you're going by the myth part, I am not defending the myth story.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 07:45 PM
wut? Of course there were oceans, even if there was pangea, there was still ocean. Where did you get this information? I should like to speak with the person spreading this bullshit history.
Cycles and different time periods on earth.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 07:45 PM
So what is holding you back?It's irrelevant to the subject at hand.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 07:46 PM
Cycles and different time periods on earth.Specifically, what source is telling you that there were once no oceans? A book, a link, an article, somethin...

10thlight
19-09-2012, 07:47 PM
It didn't just rise over night, you're going by the myth part, I am not defending the myth story.
Whats the point of skull and bones and why do presidents join it?
How does nations get setup?
Why are churhes on leyline known as dragoon lines.
What are meridians.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 07:49 PM
Specifically, what source is telling you that there were once no oceans? A book, a link, an article, somethin...Thats your path to find the info.because only you can free yourself.
somebody giving you something will not.
It takes a persons own action.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 07:52 PM
How can people not connect jig saw puzzles.I dont understand.
Last time i check the sky was blue.but people from schools were trying to say it was green.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 07:54 PM
Sorry, but believing myths to be facts is not "freeing", it's completely the opposite. This is why I doth protest much to your pro bible propaganda.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 07:55 PM
It is like yin and yang people dont believe it until THEY get it.
This why buddist ,tibetan monks and jesus spoke in parables.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 07:57 PM
Sorry, but believing myths to be facts is not "freeing", it's completely the opposite. This is why I doth protest much to your pro bible propaganda.

Which part of the bible you dont understand has 66 books and the book of enoch removed.
66=the fallen angels
Route 66 highway ever heard of it.lol

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:00 PM
Sorry, but believing myths to be facts is not "freeing", it's completely the opposite. This is why I doth protest much to your pro bible propaganda.
What is your belief?atheism,new age,truther.or follower?
Im curious.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 08:01 PM
Which part of the bible you dont understand has 66 books and the book of enoch removed.
66=the fallen angels
Route 66 highway ever heard of it.lolThe mind can make connections out of anything if it really wants to.

EDIT

I am also still waiting on a source for "There were no oceans prior to the flood". If you just say stuff without anything to back it up, then no one is going to take you seriously.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:03 PM
himitsunomiko
I know this is to take off the original subject ;),but like i said i am down today.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 08:04 PM
Can you please post a source for the claim that there were no oceans before the flood? I SERIOUSLY would like to see what person or website or book told you this.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:04 PM
The mind can make connections out of anything if it really wants to.

EDIT

I am also still waiting on a source for "There were no oceans prior to the flood". If you just say stuff without anything to back it up, then no one is going to take you seriously.
Im still waiting to hear what your beliefs are too.
I didnt know i was trying to convince people anything i was just putting info out.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:08 PM
Can you please post a source for the claim that there were no oceans before the flood? I SERIOUSLY would like to see what person or website or book told you this.
I heard this rumor.okay its a rumor!!!
That salt keeps spirits at bay so it was add to the ocean and this is why there was a flood too.
I have no source it was a rumor i heard.
Now whats your belief

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 08:13 PM
So you believe things you just "hear" with no proof at all? That's not very logical. You're telling us we need to "open our minds" and that you're "spreading the light", yet you're pushing the bible, the good and evil paradigm, all the whilst making a great claim that you can't even source to anything?

sorry, but that is really strange and contradictory. There is no basis for the statement "there were no oceans before the flood", that is called "revisionist history" (if it is even a thing and not just something you conjured up) and revising history in favor to make the Bible look like history instead of myth, which is completely dishonest and exactly what the right wing politicians are trying to do in public schools world over. This dishonesty you are employing here is no better than the "elite" you claim are "evil", you're doing the same thing as them.

Lastly, my beliefs are irrelevant to the discussion.

roman piso
19-09-2012, 08:13 PM
Book of Enoch was written around 100AD, and it is not even included in the Dead Sea Scrolls.. it is a Hoax and a bunch of Mythology.. and the author may be found as "Priest Basilides".

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:17 PM
So you believe things you just "hear" with no proof at all? That's not very logical. You're telling us we need to "open our minds" and that you're "spreading the light", yet you're pushing the bible, the good and evil paradigm, all the whilst making a great claim that you can't even source to anything?

sorry, but that is really strange and contradictory. There is no basis for the statement "there were no oceans before the flood", that is called "revisionist history" (if it is even a thing and not just something you conjured up) and revising history in favor to make the Bible look like history instead of myth is completely dishonest and exactly what the right wing politicians are trying to do in public schools world over. This dishonesty you are employing here is no better than the "elite" you claim are "evil", you're doing the same thing as them.


Lastly, beliefs are irrelevant to the discussion.
I said it wasnt the same as today.
1.Now can you please answer my2 questions why does it look like the earth s continent could fit together when you look at it from a map or globe?.
2.What is your belief?
thanks

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:18 PM
Book of Enoch was written around 100AD, and it is not even included in the Dead Sea Scrolls.. it is a Hoax and a bunch of Mythology.. and the author may be found as "Priest Basilides".
Realy...lol
Maybe you dont understand the old testment.lol

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 08:20 PM
why does it look like the earth s continent could fit together when you look at it from a map or globe?.I already said it, Pangea.

Pangaea
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For other uses, see Pangaea (disambiguation).

Map of Pangaea with modern continents outlined

Pangaea, Pangæa, or Pangea ( /pænˈdʒiːə/ pan-JEE-ə;[1]) was a supercontinent that existed during the late Paleozoic and early Mesozoic eras, forming about 300 million years ago[2] and beginning to rift around 200 million years ago, before the component continents were separated into their current configurations.[3] The single global ocean which surrounded Pangaea is accordingly named Panthalassa.

The name Pangaea is derived from Ancient Greek, pan (πᾶν) meaning "entire," and Gaia (Γαῖα) meaning "Earth." The name was coined during a 1927 symposium discussing Alfred Wegener's theory of continental drift. In his book The Origin of Continents and Oceans (Die Entstehung der Kontinente und Ozeane), first published in 1915, he postulated that all the continents had at one time formed a single supercontinent which he called the "Urkontinent", before later breaking up and drifting to their present locations.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea


We learned about this in grade school. What country do you live in that they don't teach about Pangea?

megahertz
19-09-2012, 08:21 PM
Book of Enoch was written around 100AD, and it is not even included in the Dead Sea Scrolls.. it is a Hoax and a bunch of Mythology.. and the author may be found as "Priest Basilides".

(in part)
Qumran Cave 11
Former Dead Sea Scrolls editor John Strugnell working in the "Scrollery"

The scroll is said to have been found in the Qumran "Cave 11", in 1956, together with the other, already publicized scrolls and fragments. This cave was found by the same Bedouin, Abu Dahoud, who found the first cave in 1947.[5]

Apart from this and another scroll from Cave 11 that Strugnell had seen personally, he had heard Harding speak of at least 2 never published scrolls from the same find. These, or some of them, were at that time (the Kuwait crisis) about to be bought by private, probably European collectors or bankers. The reason for buying them was for investments. Although Strugnell had arranged with serious buyers who would publicize the scrolls, he was not able to convince the owners to sell.[1][2]

Abu Dahoud has confirmed that he and 10 other men found the cave, and sold the scrolls to many different people.[5]

Aramaic Enoch Scroll - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

roman piso
19-09-2012, 08:25 PM
Realy...lol
Maybe you dont understand the old testment.lol

I understand what mythology is.. and understand that the "Old Testement" is a Bunch of Scriptures in Codex/Book Form.

The one whom invented the Book/Codex, was indeed Julius Caesar, and also wrote and coined the phrase "Last will and Testament" , hence the "Old Testament" (Julius Caesar), and the "New Testament" (Titus Flavius) also known as the Testimonium Flavian

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:28 PM
I already said it, Pangea.



We learned about this in grade school. What country do you live in that they don't teach about Pangea?
Yea it happened billion of years ago.lol I just missed the pig flew by.dam it :p
Gee what would cause something like that to happened.
Evolution is a religion.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 08:30 PM
Yea it happened billion of years ago.lol I just missed the pig flew by.dam it :p
Gee what would cause something like that to happened.Tectonic plates move around, that's why we have earth quakes. I'm pretty sure if you read the Wiki page your questions would be answered.
Evolution is a religion.This is non sense spouted by creationists projecting their own problem of religion on to those who are not bound by it.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:30 PM
I understand what mythology is.. and understand that the "Old Testement" is a Bunch of Scriptures in Codex/Book Form.

The one whom invented the Book/Codex, was indeed Julius Caesar, and also wrote and coined the phrase "Last will and Testament" , hence the "Old Testament" (Julius Caesar), and the "New Testament" (Titus Flavius) also known as the Testimonium FlavianI have read your articles in the past on the matter.Thanks not biting.
but i am in a humor mood :D

roman piso
19-09-2012, 08:35 PM
(in part)
Qumran Cave 11
Former Dead Sea Scrolls editor John Strugnell working in the "Scrollery"

The scroll is said to have been found in the Qumran "Cave 11", in 1956, together with the other, already publicized scrolls and fragments. This cave was found by the same Bedouin, Abu Dahoud, who found the first cave in 1947.[5]

Apart from this and another scroll from Cave 11 that Strugnell had seen personally, he had heard Harding speak of at least 2 never published scrolls from the same find. These, or some of them, were at that time (the Kuwait crisis) about to be bought by private, probably European collectors or bankers. The reason for buying them was for investments. Although Strugnell had arranged with serious buyers who would publicize the scrolls, he was not able to convince the owners to sell.[1][2]

Abu Dahoud has confirmed that he and 10 other men found the cave, and sold the scrolls to many different people.[5]

Aramaic Enoch Scroll - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_Enoch_Scroll)

Michael Wise, a DSS scholar, writes: "No trace of the Parables of Enoch has been discovered at Qumran, and it is widely considered today to be a composition of the later first century C.E.

It has being 60 Years and why no Translations to the Public, except for Isaiah which we already have.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:35 PM
I already said it, Pangea.



We learned about this in grade school. What country do you live in that they don't teach about Pangea?
Are,You glad you have been programmed.

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 08:42 PM
Are,You glad you have been programmed.You asked me why the continents look like they fit together, and then tell me I am programmed when I give you the answer. How do you get along with people like this? It's not a conversation, I don't know what it is

megahertz
19-09-2012, 08:44 PM
Michael Wise, a DSS scholar, writes: "No trace of the Parables of Enoch has been discovered at Qumran, and it is widely considered today to be a composition of the later first century C.E.

It has being 60 Years and why no Translations to the Public, except for Isaiah which we already have.
http://www.ibiblio.org/expo/deadsea.scrolls.exhibit/Library/enoch.html

English Translation of Enoch (Hanokh)

4Q201(En ara)
Courtesy of the Israel Antiquities Authority (11)

Ena I ii

12. ...But you have changed your works,
13. [and have not done according to his command,
and tran]sgressed against him; (and have spoken)
haughty and harsh words, with your impure mouths,
14. [against his majesty, for your heart is hard].
You will have no peace.

Ena I iii

13. [They (the leaders) and all ... of them took
for themselves]
14. wives from all that they chose and
[they began to cohabit with them and to defile
themselves with them];
15. and to teach them sorcery and [spells and
the cutting of roots; and to acquaint them
with herbs.]
16. And they become pregnant by them and
bo[re (great) giants three thousand cubits high ...]

Transcription by J. T. Milik, amended by J. C. Greenfield; translation by J. C. Greenfield

You asked me why the continents look like they fit together, and then tell me I am programmed when I give you the answer. How do you get along with people like this? It's not a conversation, I don't know what it is
Expanding Earth and Pangaea Theory - YouTube

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 08:45 PM
http://www.ibiblio.org/expo/deadsea.scrolls.exhibit/Library/enoch.html

English Translation of Enoch (Hanokh)

4Q201(En ara)
Courtesy of the Israel Antiquities Authority (11)

Ena I ii

12. ...But you have changed your works,
13. [and have not done according to his command,
and tran]sgressed against him; (and have spoken)
haughty and harsh words, with your impure mouths,
14. [against his majesty, for your heart is hard].
You will have no peace.

Ena I iii

13. [They (the leaders) and all ... of them took
for themselves]
14. wives from all that they chose and
[they began to cohabit with them and to defile
themselves with them];
15. and to teach them sorcery and [spells and
the cutting of roots; and to acquaint them
with herbs.]
16. And they become pregnant by them and
bo[re (great) giants three thousand cubits high ...]

Transcription by J. T. Milik, amended by J. C. Greenfield; translation by J. C. Greenfield
That doesn't even address what Piso said :rolleyes:

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:46 PM
You asked me why the continents look like they fit together, and then tell me I am programmed when I give you the answer. How do you get along with people like this? It's not a conversation, I don't know what it is
I guess we just disagree on the subject :)
So whats your belief now?

megahertz
19-09-2012, 08:47 PM
You asked me why the continents look like they fit together, and then tell me I am programmed when I give you the answer. How do you get along with people like this? It's not a conversation, I don't know what it is
Pangaea is a pipe-dream to explain what science finds baffling. There is no oceanic crust that is older than 200M years.

http://www.eoearth.org/images/165598/500x0/scale/2008_age_of_oceans_small1302114889.jpg

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 08:47 PM
I guess we just disagree on the subject :)First you say that the continents look like they fit together and that is why there were no oceans (or something) and now you cannot accept the answer for why the look like they fit together and continue to try and ask my beliefs which is totally irrelevant.

What is the point of making threads if you cannot have an honest discussion about them?

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 08:50 PM
Pangaea is a pipe-dream to explain what science finds baffling. There is no oceanic crust that is older than 200M years.

http://www.eoearth.org/images/165598/500x0/scale/2008_age_of_oceans_small1302114889.jpg

Please see below

The Earth has probably always had some form of basaltic crust, but the age of the oldest oceanic crust today is only about 200 million years. In contrast, the bulk of the continental crust is much older. The oldest continental crustal rocks on Earth have ages in the range from about 3.7 to 4.28 billion years [3][4] and have been found in the Narryer Gneiss Terrane in Western Australia, in the Acasta Gneiss in the Northwest Territories on the Canadian Shield, and on other cratonic regions such as those on the Fennoscandian Shield. Some zircon with age as great as 4.3 billion years has been found in the Narryer Gneiss Terrane.

The average age of the current Earth's continental crust has been estimated to be about 2.0 billion years.[5] Most crustal rocks formed before 2.5 billion years ago are located in cratons. Such old continental crust and the underlying mantle asthenosphere are less dense than elsewhere in the earth and so are not readily destroyed by subduction. Formation of new continental crust is linked to periods of intense orogeny; these periods coincide with the formation of the supercontinents such as Rodinia, Pangaea and Gondwana. The crust forms in part by aggregation of island arcs including granite and metamorphic fold belts, and it is preserved in part by depletion of the underlying mantle to form buoyant lithospheric mantle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crust_(geology)

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:51 PM
That doesn't even address what Piso said :rolleyes:
If you are realy serious and not dis info :D
goto a library grab national geographic magazine march 2012.
Open up the to last page and look at the statue made for the nazi.
But i have the feeling you are naive/confused or disinfo.
I am leaning to disinfo.Like alot of people on di forms.Also has alot of bright people too :)

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 08:53 PM
If you are realy serious and not dis info :D
goto a library grab national geographic magazine march 2012.
Open up the to last page and look at the statue made for the nazi.
But i have the feeling you are naive/confused or disinfo.
I am leaning to disinfo.Like alot of people on di forms.Also alot of bright people too :)
Typical. Another Nazi comparison. There is seriously nothing different between what you say and what the "elite" you hate and think are "evil" say. Now, you have even resorted to attempting to insult me and call me names. I am sure you are more mature than that.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 08:56 PM
If you are realy serious and not dis info :D
goto a library grab national geographic magazine march 2012.
Open up the to last page and look at the statue made for the nazi.
But i have the feeling you are naive/confused or disinfo.
I am leaning to disinfo.Like alot of people on di forms.Also has alot of bright people too :)If your real that will help you on your path for truth.

roman piso
19-09-2012, 08:56 PM
Allegro was a brilliant linguist and the sole humanist scholar who was assigned to the translation of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were discovered in the caves near the ruins known as Khirbet Qumran.

He fell out of favor with the elder conservative translation team when he disagreed with their methods of secrecy. Allegro wrote several books on the implications of the scrolls. One of the books is titled The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth, which argues that the early church portrayed ancient myths as historic facts, and information damaging to the church has been intentionally suppressed throughout history. and Judaism and Christianity were in fact products of an ancient sex-and-mushroom cult.

That is why the Dead Sea Scroll Translations have being Suppressed , The Scrolls of Dead Sea Mythologies will Damage the 3 Main Religions, which is fuelling Zionism

megahertz
19-09-2012, 08:58 PM
Please see below
"so are not readily destroyed by subduction"

You do realize that the upper mantle of liquid magma is twice as dense as solid granite, ever try pushing a piece of fresh bread into cold molasses?

megahertz
19-09-2012, 09:00 PM
I am leaning to disinfo.Like alot of people on di forms.Also has alot of bright people too :)
How do we know you are not part of the former group and not the latter, which is how your ego would see yourself?

roman piso
19-09-2012, 09:01 PM
Pangaea is a pipe-dream to explain what science finds baffling. There is no oceanic crust that is older than 200M years.


Because of the forces of plate tectonics, the oceanic crust is continually being renewed and, as a consequence, no part of it is older than around 200 million years., In Fact in 200M Years time.. we would have a new Oceanic Crust

Still 200 Million Years is way of your 6000 year Old Creation Crap

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 09:02 PM
If your real that will help you on your path for truth.My real what?

How can you talk about truth when you are sitting there saying that Bible myths are real and pangea a lie? That there were no oceans at one point? Those are lies. You're not peddling truth but rather very obvious mis truths.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 09:03 PM
Allegro was a brilliant linguist and the sole humanist scholar who was assigned to the translation of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were discovered in the caves near the ruins known as Khirbet Qumran.

He fell out of favor with the elder conservative translation team when he disagreed with their methods of secrecy. Allegro wrote several books on the implications of the scrolls. One of the books is titled The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth, which argues that the early church portrayed ancient myths as historic facts, and information damaging to the church has been intentionally suppressed throughout history. and Judaism and Christianity were in fact products of an ancient sex-and-mushroom cult.

That is why the Dead Sea Scroll Translations have being Suppressed , The Scrolls of Dead Sea Mythologies will Damage the 3 Main Religions, which is fuelling Zionism
Your so full of it.
This books was banned by the catholic churchand hated and it was removed from the bible.so many people got burnt at the stake for these texts/ and other bible books.
It like people that dont even know what world wars 2 were about.
people that doen play all this stuff are naive or disinfo agents.

Maybe you guys should read how many people died trying to get these books printed.but no its not true because i dont even go outdoors any more . View everything from a a computer/city.Humanity is so disconnected from nature.Bunch a mindless people .Christians too.

roman piso
19-09-2012, 09:07 PM
The Stupidity of Genesis 1, which depicts the Entire Earth was originally a Large Egg Shaped Ball of Water, which split into two.. and water (H20) mutated in the Earth and Sky.. Water turned into Iron/Carbon. Very strange

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.


9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.”

Water under the Sky became the Ground ???

And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night

Do you see any VAULTS in the Sky ?

megahertz
19-09-2012, 09:10 PM
Your so full of it.
This books was banned by the catholic churchand hated and it was removed from the bible.so many people got burnt at the stake for these texts/ and other bible books.
It like people that dont even know what world wars 2 were about.
people that doen play all this stuff are naive or disinfo agents.

Maybe you guys should read how many people died trying to get these books printed.but no its not true because i dont even go outdoors any more . View everything from a a computer/city.Humanity is so disconnected from nature.Bunch a mindless people .Christians too.
Enoch and Revelation were both under consideration. Revelation was chosen because it had more to do with Jesus, Enoch only covered Him in 1 chapter. Jude was put in as a summary to what Enoch covered (minus all the trips in the book). Once the RCC went corrupt (Bible in Latin) then opposition to other texts reached the killing stage.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 09:11 PM
How do we know you are not part of the former group and not the latter, which is how your ego would see yourself?As Time running out on the course we are heading.There is a middle ground.But all this stuff in the middle east is following the bible endtime scenario to a tee.And its just been bumped up to red alert.
Why you tell me.Is it self -feeling prophecy.

roman piso
19-09-2012, 09:14 PM
Enoch and Revelation were both under consideration. Revelation was chosen because it had more to do with Jesus, Enoch only covered Him in 1 chapter. Jude was put in as a summary to what Enoch covered (minus all the trips in the book). Once the RCC went corrupt (Bible in Latin) then opposition to other texts reached the killing stage.

The Gospels and Septuagint Hoax where produced by the same people who established the Christian Church, and all of this occurred in Rome.. Christian History in 1st Century Judea simply, does not exist.. and they never was a Religion, in Judea that was called Christianity.. Why is the Vatican not located in Judea.

Dead Sea Scrolls , like the Isaiah in there proves the Gospels to be a Hoax, because Isaiah never had a Virgin-Birth Prophecy, as well as deliberate Corruptions of the Hebrew Scriptures, becoming the Septuagint , another 1st-2nd Century Hoax

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 09:15 PM
As Time running out on the course we are heading.There is a middle ground.But all this stuff in the middle east is following the bible endtime scenario to a tee.And its just been bumped up to red alert.
Why you tell me.Is it self -feeling prophecy.

This isn't the first time people have said the end times are near
http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

You can make anything fit into "prophecy" since it can be interpreted any way people want to.

megahertz
19-09-2012, 09:17 PM
The Stupidity of Genesis 1, which depicts the Entire Earth was originally a Large Egg Shaped Ball of Water, which split into two.. and water (H20) mutated in the Earth and Sky.. Water turned into Iron/Carbon. Very strange

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.


9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.”

Water under the Sky became the Ground ???

And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night

Do you see any VAULTS in the Sky ?
lol, it doesn't promote that at all. Heaven was defined as starting at the surface of dry land or the surface of liquid water. In the old earth craetion model the end of day 1 was 4B years ago, the end of day 2 was 400M years ago and that is when the earth was still a ball of hot rock but you could also find some water in liquid (rain touching the highest elevations of land) and in vapor form. Day 1 ended when the earth (lava covered) experienced it's first sunrise/sunset by light (what was created) first came from the sun. Time was created on day 4, rather than the sun, moon and stars, they were simply given names and a purpose at that time, 4M years ago.

megahertz
19-09-2012, 09:21 PM
This isn't the first time people have said the end times are near
http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

You can make anything fit into "prophecy" since it can be interpreted any way people want to.
The Rothschild klan would love to be considered as being a 'god', that would make them safe from 'revolts, (which is several centuries overdue just on the abuse of usury issue). None of this has anything to do with god because the graves give up many people when God is involved, that is #1 on the list of things to do after the sinners are in the grave, which would include all the Rothschild bankers and their cohorts.

10thlight
19-09-2012, 09:23 PM
This isn't the first time people have said the end times are near
http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

You can make anything fit into "prophecy" since it can be interpreted any way people want to.
I know.Christians have gone nuts about.
I m not gonna go into it.because i have to go.But connect the dots.Good luck.
got to go.
if you dont believe in energy stuff goto acupuncturist or energy healers ect.
OR get some books on the matter.
Just because you dont believe in something doesnt mean it doesnt exist.Only your perception it does.

roman piso
19-09-2012, 09:31 PM
lol, it doesn't promote that at all. Heaven was defined as starting at the surface of dry land or the surface of liquid water. In the old earth craetion model the end of day 1 was 4B years ago, the end of day 2 was 400M years ago and that is when the earth was still a ball of hot rock but you could also find some water in liquid (rain touching the highest elevations of land) and in vapor form. Day 1 ended when the earth (lava covered) experienced it's first sunrise/sunset by light (what was created) first came from the sun. Time was created on day 4, rather than the sun, moon and stars, they were simply given names and a purpose at that time, 4M years ago.

Genesis 1 was not written by Scientists , it was written by Priests, and Astrologers , and really depicts the Fertility and Seasons of the Year.

Gen 1:2 [Winter]
The Ground was Chaos and Empty [NO CROPS], Darkness was over the faces of the Ocean and the wind of the gods blew over the faces of the waters. [WINDY AND DARK]

Gen 1:3 [The Sky God Rose the Sun God] [This is why Sky-Fathers fathers Sun-Sons]
The Gods spoke, let there be Light

Gen 1:4 [Light was overtaking Dark, Spring is here]
The Gods saw the light, and it was pleasent, and the gods set apart the Light from the darkness

Gen 1:6 [Vaults are Horizons, which separate the Sky from the Earth]
The Gods said, let there be a Vault in the midst of the waters, to seperate the Waters from Waters

Gen 1:7 [When they mean Divide water from Above and Below, it meant to "Rain", since it Rains, they assume the Blue Sky is a Mass of Water.. hence the Sun [As Noah] travel in an Ark.
the Gods used the Vault to divide the Water under the Vault and the Waters above the Vault.

Gen 1:9 [Rains Stop, Dries up, and Fertilises the Ground]
The Gods said let the Water under the sky gather and dry up.

Gen 1:11 [Earth is Fertile, Plants Grow, Crops For Farming]
The Gods said, let the soil sprout vegetation and plants grow seeds, and the trees that grow fruit, let there seeds scatter the earth

Gen 1:24 [Animal Fertility for Farming]
The Gods said said, the earth shall bring forth different kinds of creatures, like
cattle, insects and let animals of different kinds walk the earth


The Great Pyramid, Obelisks, Monoliths are all created to track the Stars and Sun, and to tell the people the best times of the Year, essential for Cropping and farming, and Genesis is a simple metaphor of which

himitsunomiko
19-09-2012, 09:33 PM
I know.Christians have gone nuts about.
I m not gonna go into it.because i have to go.But connect the dots.Good luck.
got to go.
if you dont believe in energy stuff goto acupuncturist or energy healers ect.
OR get some books on the matter.
Just because you dont believe in something doesnt mean it doesnt exist.Only your perception it does.Why are you telling me to go to quack healing?

angelthecat
19-09-2012, 09:47 PM
Yes.They had knowledge from the begining.
Humanity has been dumbed down over time.
There our good beings too dont get me wrong.Its not all black and white.But serious if you were good would u want to get trapped down here?
Im sure there is some that want redemption and may being working for the true light.I have to think that way.

I have been wondering if the fallen angels have been caring the torch of the religions.Since they probably pissed at "satan too"
We are to dumb down and limited in the 5 senses to know the spec of everything.

My conclusion is we are all naive in some fields of knowledge and more.And there is more going on than we know.There is nothing new under the sun.

In this day in age you have to be wise as serpents more then ever.
I find religious people are naive and blind too if not more so.
Religions are traps too.
I hate labels.
yes but the good ones have no problem serving us and the bad ones must do as they are told. it doesn't matter which they are, they are both servants and not ascended Masters, so the question is why do people search outside themselves for guidance? or even except outside guidance especially when it needs an invite?

megahertz
19-09-2012, 09:47 PM
Genesis 1 was not written by Scientists , it was written by Priests, and Astrologers , and really depicts the Fertility and Seasons of the Year.

Now blend in Proverbs 8, you get Christ's witness of Ge:1, it doesn't fit your theory at all.

Proverb:8:22-31:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him,
as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.

day1 ended in 4B BC- earth had it's first sunrise/sunset.
day 2 ended 400M BC- earth had water in liquid and vapor form.
day 3 ended 40M BC- earth has plants to the extent that trees existed.
day 4 ended 4M BC- time was created, the rotation around itself and around the sun came to be what it is today.
day 5 ended 400,000BC- the oceans were4 fully developed as we see them today, a process that started by the end of day 2.
day 6 ended 40,000BC- land a\nimals were as we find them today, Adam could have been created at the start of the day but Eve was only created at the end of the day.
day 7 ended 4,0000BC- exit from the garden

angelthecat
19-09-2012, 09:50 PM
Ancient cultures didn't need or have alien intervention. Everything we see from the past is perfectly explainable by evolution.

I never frequent the football forums as I dont do football, maybe you are lost :eek:


http://evolutionfacts.com/

megahertz
19-09-2012, 09:57 PM
yes but the good ones have no problem serving us and the bad ones must do as they are told. it doesn't matter which they are, they are both servants and not ascended Masters, so the question is why do people search outside themselves for guidance? or even except outside guidance especially when it needs an invite?
In short that is where God resides, that He wrote a book shows us that He is outside or there would be no need for a book of words that is our sole source of knowledge about God. He even lets us know what format it is in.

Isa:28:9:
Whom shall he teach knowledge?
and whom shall he make to understand doctrine?
them that are weaned from the milk,
and drawn from the breasts.
Isa:28:10:
For precept must be upon precept,
precept upon precept;
line upon line,
line upon line;
here a little,
and there a little:

10thlight
20-09-2012, 04:43 AM
yes but the good ones have no problem serving us and the bad ones must do as they are told. it doesn't matter which they are, they are both servants and not ascended Masters, so the question is why do people search outside themselves for guidance? or even except outside guidance especially when it needs an invite?
I would guess crystalline upgrades and perks and knowledge.

positive_forward
20-09-2012, 07:21 AM
Typical. Another Nazi comparison. There is seriously nothing different between what you say and what the "elite" you hate and think are "evil" say. Now, you have even resorted to attempting to insult me and call me names. I am sure you are more mature than that.

How many threads has the OP started, I counted about 90 in this forum section, wtf is that all about? I smell a kosher spam bot spreading disinformation misinformation (usual agenda) they keep cropping up here. I know that's what they do one of their agents admitted they do this on many forums. Probably another sock puppet. The awful grammar looks familiar.
I'm sticking with the above theory.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061049409&postcount=337
Only a fellow disinfo bot would post this..or 10thlight is lightgiver the kosher one. Hates real Christians, catholics, Muslims and Germans but is here to shill for Jews.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222743

10thlight
20-09-2012, 07:19 PM
I'm sticking with the above theory.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061049409&postcount=337
Only a fellow disinfo bot would post this..or 10thlight is lightgiver the kosher one. Hates real Christians, catholics, Muslims and Germans but is here to shill for Jews.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222743Maybe if you would open your eyes you could see..

10thlight
21-09-2012, 10:35 PM
Azazel is a mutant from biblical times who leads the Neyaphem and is father to X-Men member Nightcrawler, Abyss & Kiwi Black.
Origin
The demonic Azazel
The demonic Azazel

Azazel is a mutant from biblical times and the ruler of the Neyaphem (a race of demonic looking mutants). He claims that the Earth and everything on it belongs to him. He sees humanity as a cancer on his world. In his time, he enslaves and kills humans in order to impose his rule and dominion. Another group of mutants, the Cheyarafim or "angels" banish him to the Brimstone Dimension that Nightcrawler uses when he teleports. He is only able to leave for short periods of time so he fathers numerous children in order to have one with the power to free him permanently from his prison. Nightcrawler was one of his children as a result of his time spent with a young Mystique who was married to Mr. Wagner. Around this time, he also fathered the mutants Abyss and Kiwi Black among others. Azazel bides his time and waited for his children's power to mature and grant him freedom.
Character Creation

Azazel was created by Chuck Austen and Sean Phillips and made his first appearance in Uncanny X-Men # 428 in 2003.
Freedom

Azazel uses his mental link to his children to call dozens of them to one spot, the spot where he was banished, in order to use their powers to come to our world. Nightcrawler is pulled along with his other brothers and sisters and had started a ritual to open a portal to the Brimstone dimension. The X-Men followed Nightcrawler and get in a fight with Azazel and his followers resulting in them all being trapped back in his dimension. After a coordinated effort from Polaris in the real world and Abyss in the Brimstone dimension, everyone but Azazel escaped back into the real world. Azazel's current status is unknown and if M-Day had any impact on him.
Powers

Azazel can mentally control his progeny from his dimension, fire blasts of energy, teleport, has knowledge of dark magic, is a master swordsman, is immortal and can control the creatures that live in the Brimstone Dimension. He also appeared to have the ability whether through magic or limited shapeshifting to disguise his appearance (generally used to seduce and impregnate women).
Weakness

The blood of "angels" is caustic to Azazel and other Neyaphem. When Angel tried to use his blood to heal Nightcrawler, it burned him and he suggests this is the same with them all.
Physical Characteristics

Gender: Male

Height: 5' 10"

Weight: 150 lbs

Eyes: Black with Yellow pupils

Hair: Black

Skin: Red

Nationality: Unknown, potentially ancient Roman

Unique Traits: Unlike his son Nightcrawler, he has five fingers and toes. However they share a prehensile tail, pointed ears, fang-like canine teeth, and his body is coated with red-colored fur.
Films
X-Men: First Class

Here he is played by Jason Flemyng. He is one of the henchmen of Sebastian
Azazel, in X-Men First Class .
Azazel, in X-Men First Class .

Shaw and is a part of The Hellfire Club. In the film he is portrayed as an agile and stealthy assassin type character, with his ability to teleport and to use his prehensile tail to kill his victims. He is The Hellfire Club's most used form of getting from one place to another via his teleporting, however he also knows how to operate the submarine that they own, as well as various other boats. In the big fight towards the end of the film between the X-Men and The Hellfire Club, he is taken on by Beast and Havok, only to drop off Havok onto an enemy ship in the beginning of the fight via teleportation. He is eventually defeated by Beast as he is knocked out by him. At the end of the film, along with other members of The Hellfire Club, he joins Magneto's Brotherhood Of Mutants.
http://www.comicvine.com/azazel/29-40526/


Azrael (comics)
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Azrael
Swordazrael1.jpg
Cover to Batman: Sword of Azrael #1 (1992).
Art by Joe Quesada and Kevin Nowlan.
Publication information
Publisher DC Comics
First appearance As Azrael:
Batman: Sword of Azrael #1
(October 1992)
As Batman:
Batman #498 (August 1993)
Created by Denny O'Neil
Joe Quesada
In-story information
Alter ego Jean-Paul Valley Jr.
Michael Washington Lane
Team affiliations Sacred Order of Saint Dumas
Batman Family
Black Lantern Corps
Notable aliases Batman
Abilities Special armored costume
Artificially enhanced physiology, combat skills, and intelligence
Computer expert

Azrael is the name of several fictional superheroes in the DC Comics universe. They are a group of assassins who were created by The Order of St. Dumas to "enforce God's Will." The name is taken from the name for the traditional Angel of Death.

Publication history

The character first appeared in the series Batman: Sword of Azrael,[1] as Jean-Paul Valley, in 1992.

He then became a supporting character in the monthly Batman titles, eventually taking over the role of Batman[2] through the "Knightfall", "Knightquest", and "KnightsEnd" story arcs.

The subsequent Azrael series, chronicling Valley's battles against the Order of St. Dumas, ran for 100 issues between 1995 and 2003. Starting with issue #47, it was retitled Azrael: Agent of the Bat in an attempt to boost sales by tying the series in with the rest of the Batman mythos, including Azrael as part of the team of Batman, Robin, and the new Batgirl (Cassandra Cain).

Michael Lane is the next Azrael introduced as part of the Battle for the Cowl storyline in a three-issue mini-series written by Fabian Nicieza.[3][4]
Fictional character biography
Jean-Paul Valley

Jean-Paul Valley, a university graduate student of computer science in Gotham City, is unaware that he is the latest in a line of assassin-enforcers for "The Sacred Order of Saint Dumas", a sinister religious secret society. For most of his life, he has been brainwashed with The System, a deep level of psychological conditioning.

Valley only learns of this upon the death of his father, who was also his predecessor, at which time his conditioning is activated and he is called upon to take up the mantle of Azrael. When he is sent by the Order to kill a weapons dealer, a rogue member of the Order who had turned against the others and killed his father, he crosses paths with Batman, also investigating the death of Valley's father. He works with Alfred Pennyworth to find the weapons dealer after he has captured Bruce Wayne, using the Batman costume to kill the other Order members. As Valley works with Alfred, demonstrating a detective's intuition in tracking Lehah's movements and later risking himself to rescue Bruce despite his traditional mission of vengeance, he is shown the error of his ways and decides to fight alongside Batman against the criminals of Gotham, rejecting his "birthright" and seeking Batman's help in breaking his conditioning to forge his own destiny.

His name is not revealed to Alfred and Bruce until the end of the story, at which point he claims it was his father's name too. However a later storyline in his solo series stated his father's name to be Ludovic Valley.[5]

Valley is given a job as a security guard at WayneTech headquarters, and also becomes an apprentice crimefighter alongside Batman and Robin, learning basic detective work.
Detective Comics #667 (1993). Art by Kelley Jones.

Valley plays a pivotal role in the "Knightfall" story arc (1992–1994), in which he stands in as Batman after Bruce Wayne is defeated and paralyzed at the hands of Bane. Against Bruce Wayne's orders, Valley fights and defeats Bane, wearing enhanced battle-armour he designed and built under the influence of the System. His performance as Batman is influenced by his Azrael conditioning; he grows increasingly violent, allowing the mass murderer Abattoir to fall to his death, thereby also allowing one of Abattoir's still-living hostages to die. Valley also has control problems with Tim Drake's partnership, which climax when Valley almost strangles him to death and bans him from the Batcave. He seals off the Batcave from Wayne Manor and the Drake property, and eschews working with Commissioner Gordon and the Gotham police.

Initially, Wayne is impressed enough with Valley's results to let him remain as Batman, but when Drake tells Wayne of Abattoir's death, he resolves to reclaim the Batman mantle. With his back repaired thanks to the sacrifice of Doctor Shondra Kinsolving, and his fighting instincts rehabilitated after lessons with Lady Shiva, Wayne goes after Valley to reclaim his identity. After a prolonged battle, stretching from a mobster's penthouse to Gotham Bridge before culminating in a final showdown in the Batcave, Valley is forced to remove his armour, subsequently departing Wayne Manor after acknowledging Bruce Wayne as the true Batman.[5]

Valley lives among the homeless population of Gotham for several weeks, befriending an alcoholic former psychiatrist named Brian.

Valley is sought out by Bruce Wayne who grants him money and resources to explore his origins. Along with Brian, he discovers the evil conspiracies within the order of St. Dumas, and they help a nun named Sister Lilhy escape. With the help of Ra's al Ghul he discovers that he is a genetically engineered test tube baby, and his genes have been spliced with those of animals.

He returns to Gotham for several crossover events, including Underworld Unleashed, Contagion, Legacy, and Cataclysm. He also discovers that his father's killer, Carlton LeHah, is still alive, and gains a new archenemy, Nicholas Scratch.

He also changes his costume considerably for a time, after being framed for murder by Scratch. Azrael returns to his original costume and battles supposed hallucinations that are supposed to represent both his father and St. Dumas himself. Toward the end of the series, Azrael is plagued by apparently supernatural occurrences in the form of possible miracles.

Azrael is seemingly killed in the series' final issue, shot with two specially-coated bullets while battling Scratch and LeHah. However, his body is never recovered.[5] His death went unconfirmed for several years. In Booster Gold (vol. 2) #10, a note can be seen written on time traveler Rip Hunter's chalk board reading "Jean-Paul Valley Lives!". In the following issue, another note says "Azrael comes and goes." Azrael appears in Blackest Night #4 (October 2009) as an undead member of the Black Lantern Corps; although at first it had not been confirmed whether it was Jean-Paul Valley or another Azrael (such as Ludovic Valley, who died in Gotham City). However, it was later revealed, in the index section of the Blackest Night tabloid vol.1, that it was in fact Jean-Paul.[6]

Jean-Paul Valley makes a cameo at Batman's funeral service in Neil Gaiman's 2009 story, Batman: Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?, a story which is metaphysical in nature.
Michael Lane

In 2009, a mini-series titled Azrael: Death's Dark Knight[7] was produced as a tie-in to the Battle for the Cowl crossover event, with a later regular series.

The new Azrael is the Third "Ghost of Batman" to undergo Doctor Hurt's experiments; an African American ex-cop named Michael Washington Lane. He is approached by the Order of Purity to reclaim the mantle of Azrael after the Order of Dumas' latest Azrael went mad and killed an undercover police officer. On his first night as Azrael he fights Talia al Ghul and a new team of mercenaries led by Merlyn and Nightwing.[volume & issue needed] After convincing Nightwing that he was not responsible for the murdered police officer, Nightwing persuades Talia to allow Michael to keep the Suit of Sorrows. In Batman And The Outsiders (vol. 2) #14, the character is displayed as a charming man who undergoes various purification rituals, overseen by the Order of Purity.[8]
The New 52

Azrael has not yet appeared in the rebooted New 52 continuity, and the publisher has made no formal statement on future plans regarding him. A version of the character was originally featured Batwoman issue #2, which was written before the relaunch but published after, however the art was edited in order to remove him.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azrael_%28comics%29

himitsunomiko
21-09-2012, 10:39 PM
^^ It's a fiction story. Seriously.

10thlight
21-09-2012, 10:58 PM
^^ It's a fiction story. Seriously.
Tell that to hollywood , the nwo order and some magicians.

10thlight
21-09-2012, 11:11 PM
AZAZEL


AZAZEL aka ZAZEL, SAMYAZA, SAMYAZAZEL, SHAMGAZ, SHEMYAZA, SHAMYAZA, SHEMIHAZAH, SHAMASH (Babylonian), UTU (Sumerian; The Shining One),* SAMAS (Akkadian), BABBAR (Sumerian), Ashur (Assyrian), SHAMIYAH (Hathra), SEMJAZA

Zodiac Sign: Capricorn/Aquarius (both 1-10 degrees)
Tarot Card: Ace of Swords
Planet: Saturn, the Lunar South Node (Dragon's Tail)
Candle Color: Blue, Black
Metal: Lead
Element of Air
Symbols: The Eagle and the Scorpion; the Faravahar (see below)
Number: 20
Rank: Chief Standard Bearer of the Infernal Army
Azazel works directly with Satan
He is in charge of top security in Hell.

*The above, he dictated to me personally.

From High Priestess Maxine:
I know Azazel well and am very close to him. He is a very high ranking and important God. He is 7 1/2 feet tall, very strongly built with light blonde hair that is past his shoulders and flowing. He has piercing bluish grey eyes. He is very powerful and dedicated to Lucifer. He expects 100% and can be serious and strict. He closely interacted with and educated humans in ancient times. **AZAZEL IS NOT PAIMON as some of the grimoires of abuse claim. They are both different Gods. Azazel is a Prince. Paimon is a King. Azazel is very high ranking; VERY close to Lucifer. He says he is around 60,000 Earth years old.

Azazel worked extensively with me on this page. He led me to many different references and resources (Listed below). He told me to mention the "Code of Hammurabi" and that the contents of this document have been drastically altered through the centuries and what we have now resembles nothing of the original. Azazel stands for justice and does not in any way advocate submission or turning the other cheek.
Although there are a few accounts of Azazel's being married to various Goddesses, this is inaccurate. Azazel took a human wife some 10,000 years ago.

"Azazel appears to me with an incredibly vibrant green Aura, identical to the Color of the Heart Charka. He is strict if you are not doing what is required of you, but he is very friendly and understanding - especially if you are going through bad times like psychic attack or bad planets. Azazel-sama has helped me and guided me so much, I remember when I was going through some really bad planets and the when things got to the point where I felt like I was going to crack, Azazel-sama reassured me and made me feel that I was making Father Satan, Him and the Gods Proud and that the Bad times will pass. I am so thankful to Azazel!"
Hail Azazel-sama!
_High Priest Vovim Baghie
Azazel is a grandson of Beelzebub (Enlil). He is the twin brother of Astaroth. Both he and his twin sister Astaroth are the children of Beelzebub's son "Sin/Nannar" and Sin's wife "Ningal." Both Azazel and Astaroth have always been very close. The painting at left is how he always appears to me.
Azazel is a warrior god of justice and truth. His cities were "Sippar," an ancient Akkadian city on the east bank of the Euphrates, north of Babylon and Larsa/Ellasar of Sumeria. Sippar is 20 miles (32 km) southwest of Baghdad in Iraq. Sippar was one of the first cities to be established by the Gods.

"Ellasar's Sumerian name is given as Ararwa, apparently for Arauruwa, 'light-abode,' which, in fact, is the meaning of the ideographic group with which it is written. The ruins of this ancient site are now known as Senqara, and lie on the East bank of the Euphrates, about midway between Warka (Erech) and Muqayyar (Ur of the Chaldees).
In addition to the name Larsa, it seems also to have been called Aste azaga "the holy (bright, pure) seat" (or throne), and both its names were apparently due to its having been one of the great Babylonian centers of sun-god worship.
Like most of the principal cities of Babylonia, it had a great temple-tower, called E-dur-an-ki, 'house of the bond of heaven and earth.' The temple of the city bore the same name as that at Sippar, i.e. E-babbar, 'House of Light,' where the sun-god Samas was worshipped. This temple was restored by Ur-Engur, Hammurabi (Amraphel), Burna-burias, Nebuchadrezzar and Nabonidus. Among the tablets found on this site by Loftus was that which gives measures of length and square and cube roots, pointing to the place as one of the great centers of Babylonian learning. Besides the remains of these temples, there are traces of the walls, and the remains of houses of the citizens. The city was at first governed by its own kings, but became a part of the Babylonian empire some time after the reign of Hammurabi."¹
Azazel is the God of Justice and Revenge. He is a Master of the Black Arts and the Protector of Travelers. His symbol the faravahar (shown at left), represents freedom of choice and protection. The faravahar is the original winged disk.
He was the rebel leader of the Igigi. Azazel is also the the God of divination and has been consulted by many soothsayers. He was also the Chief Deity of the City of Hathra. As the Chief Deity of Hathra, he was known as "Shamiyah." Note the horns in the photo of the sculpture at left.

Along with his grandfather Beelzebub, he controlled the airways for the Gods, wearing his symbol of the eagle.

"In Bad-Tibira, established as an industrial center, Enlil installed his son Nannar/Sin in command; the texts speak of him in the list of cities as NU.GIG ('He of the night sky'). There, we believe the twins Inanna/Ishtar and Utu/Shamash were born--an event marked by associating their father Nannar with the next zodiacal constellation Gemini (the twins). As the god trained in rocketry, Shamash was assigned the constellation GIR (meaning both 'rocket' and 'the crab's claw' or Cancer), followed by Ishtar and the Lion (Leo), upon whose back she was traditionally depicted."²

The Judeo/Christian Bible reads that "Azazel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, body armor."
The grimoires of spirit abuse claim that Azazel is a genius at working with metals, minerology, and geology. This is all symbolic. He is a Master of Alchemy; Spiritual Alchemy. Spiritual Alchemy has to do with the transformation of elements within the human soul, drawing energy from the earth and working with the earth spiritually. Each of the seven chakras is represented by a specific metal. Azazel works with dedicated disciples of Satan to achieve godhead.

All of the above is spiritual. The biblical account was twisted. The "swords, knives, shields, and body armor" are all spiritual weapons. He is an expert on the planets, constellations and astrology. He is also very skillful in the arts, cosmetology, crafting of ornaments and jewelry. Azazel creates beauty.

AZAZEL'S SIGIL ONE
AZAZEL'S SUMERIAN SIGIL

*Many of the Original Gods were known as "The Shining Ones" because of their powereful auras.

¹ International Standard Bible Encyclopedia
² The 12th Planet by Zecharia Sitchin © 1976

Other References:

Religion in Ancient Mesopotamia by Jean Bottéro
Translated by Teresa Lavendar Fagan, University of Chicago Press, © 2001

An Illustrated Dictionary, Gods, Demons and Symbols of Ancient Mesopotamia by Jeremy Black and Anthony Green, © 1992

Mythology of the Babylonian People by Donald A. Mackenzie © 1915

FROM LINK OUT BELOW
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Azazel.html

10thlight
21-09-2012, 11:21 PM
FROM STEVE JACKSON GAME IN NOMINE
Steve jackson also makes the famous illuminati trading cards that told the future of 911 and pentagon attacks and alot more ect.

Azazel
Djinn of Lucifer
Corporeal Forces -- 5 Strength 11 Agility 9
Ethereal Forces -- 4 Intelligence 10 Precision 6
Celestial Forces -- 5 Will 10 Perception 10

Vessels: Human/6, Fly/2
Skills: Dodge/4, Fighting/5, Knowledge (Area: Hell/4, Infernal Politics/5), Large Weapon (Sword/5), Lying/4, Seduction/4, Survival (Desert/2), Tactics/1, Throwing/6
Songs: Calling (Corporeal/6, Celestial/6), Charm (Corporeal/6), Feet/4, Form (Corporeal/4, Ethereal/2), Horns/5, Light (all/3), Location (Corporeal/4, Ethereal/2, Celestial/3), Motion (Corporeal/2, Ethereal/2, Celestial/5), Projection (all/6), Tongues (Corporeal/2, Ethereal/4, Celestial/3), Wings/3
Artifacts: Twain Sword/6 (Liber Reliquarum, p. 45), with the Summonable Feature

Attunements: None

Special Attunement: Azazel is permanently attuned to Lucifer (by Lucifer's choice, of course). He is rumored to be able to attune himself to other Superiors, without their knowledge or consent! Azazel can also "invoke" Lucifer, though there is no roll -- if he decides Lucifer's presence is required, Lucifer will appear. He's never (so far as anyone knows) made the mistake of summoning the Lightbringer needlessly.

Special Rites: Azazel has no Rites, but regains all his Essence every sunset, and whenever he rolls an Infernal Intervention.

A Djinn with no attunements, no Distinctions, and no Word would appear to be pretty low in the infernal hierarchy. In fact, Azazel occupies a very privileged position in Hell: he is Lucifer's personal secretary.

Azazel was one of Lucifer's first followers, and he carried the Morningstar's banner when the Rebellion began. Since the Fall, he has been Lucifer's constant and faithful servant, as loyal now as when he was a Cherub. For his loyalty, he has never been awarded a Principality, nor has he been gifted with unique and powerful attunements or secret Songs. If appearances are to be believed, he is simply Lucifer's best friend, a servant who serves of his own free will, who never expects rewards, and who has never used his position for his own advantage.

Such an appearance is virtually impossible to believe in Hell, of course, so rumors abound of Azazel's true nature. He is often sent as an emissary to speak for the Dark Lord, and has taken the guise of Satan as Lucifer's stand-in on Earth, so some demons believe Azazel really is Lucifer. Others say he is Lucifer's son. Others say he's actually an unFallen Cherub, a former Servitor of Light who simply could not abandon his master no matter what. Azazel greets all speculation with a disdainful smile.

Though technically he has no rank, Azazel is recognized by everyone, and being Lucifer's personal secretary gives him the equivalent of diplomatic immunity and a free pass anywhere in Hell. No one, not even a Prince, would dare to hinder or threaten him. Of course such privileges could be abused, and presumably Lucifer would have a word with Azazel if that happened, but as far as anyone knows, it never has.

Azazel keeps appointments, delivers messages, and acts as Lucifer's eyes, ears and mouthpiece. Those who wish an audience with the Darkest of Dark Lords usually seek one through his secretary. Other Princes assume Azazel is always spying for his master, and become nervous when he arrives at their gates, even though Lucifer almost never sends Azazel to deliver threats (those, he's more likely to either deliver personally or convey through far subtler means).

Of course Azazel is a prime candidate for bribery and currying of favors. The Djinn has turned down offers of attunements and Distinctions from almost every Prince, but he does enjoy a free table with unlimited drinks at any establishment in Shal-Mari. He is simultaneously unassuming and very visible, yet one of Hell's most mysterious figures. He enjoys privileges accorded to no one else, but seems content with almost nothing in the way of rewards, save the prestige of his position.

10thlight
21-09-2012, 11:24 PM
Illuminati/NWO Trading Cards
Illuminati/NWO Trading Cards - YouTube

10thlight
21-09-2012, 11:30 PM
The 10th Kingdom Introduction- I'm Wishing on a Star
The 10th Kingdom Introduction- I'm Wishing on a Star - YouTube

10thlight
21-09-2012, 11:47 PM
The Dark Knight Rises Official Movie Trailer Christian Bale, Batman Movie (2012) HD
Trailer - The Dark Knight Rises Official Movie Trailer Christian Bale, Batman Movie (2012) HD - YouTube
The whole 3 series batman begins to batman dark knight to batman dark knight rises.Is full of symbolism(FULL)

10thlight
22-09-2012, 12:08 AM
And why do we FALL, Bruce?
So we can learn to pick ourselves up


The dark knight rises - why do we fall with bane chant
The dark knight rises - why do we fall with bane chant - YouTube

The Dark Knight Rises Bane Chant for 10 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!
The Dark Knight Rises Bane Chant for 10 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!! - YouTube

Why Do We Fall(With Chant)[HD] - The Dark Knight Rises OST - Hans Zimmer
Why Do We Fall(With Chant)[HD] - The Dark Knight Rises OST - Hans Zimmer - YouTube

Maybe you guys will understand the middle east wars/ww3 more and 911 leading there? And what albert pike 3 world wars lead too.

10thlight
22-09-2012, 12:38 AM
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/menewriv.gif

Azazel loacation
The river euphrates and Tigris river.(Iraq, Syria, Turkey)
Euphrates
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For the song "River Euphrates" by the Pixies, see Surfer Rosa.
Coordinates: 31°0′18″N 47°26′31″E
Euphrates
Arabic: الفرات‎: al-Furāt[1], Turkish: Fırat[1], Kurdish: Firat, Syriac: ܦܪܬ: Prath, Hebrew: פרת‎ Prat
River
The Euphrates near Halabiye (Syria); the site can be seen in the background on the left bank
Name origin: from Greek, from Old Persian Ufrātu, from Elamite ú-ip-ra-tu-iš
Countries Iraq, Syria, Turkey
Basin area Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait
Tributaries
- left Balikh, Khabur
- right Sajur
Cities Birecik, Ar-Raqqah, Deir ez-Zor, Mayadin, Haditha, Ramadi, Habbaniyah, Fallujah, Kufa, Samawah, Nasiriyah
Landmarks Lake Assad, Lake Qadisiyah, Lake Habbaniyah
Source
- location Murat Su, Turkey
- elevation 3,520 m (11,549 ft)
Secondary source
- location Kara Su, Turkey
- elevation 3,290 m (10,794 ft)
Source confluence
- location Keban, Turkey
- elevation 610 m (2,001 ft)
Mouth Shatt al-Arab
- location Al-Qurnah, Basra Governorate, Iraq
- coordinates 31°0′18″N 47°26′31″E
Length 2,800 km (1,740 mi) approx.
Basin 500,000 km2 (193,051 sq mi) approx.
Discharge for Hīt
- average 356 m3/s (12,572 cu ft/s)
- max 2,514 m3/s (88,781 cu ft/s)
- min 58 m3/s (2,048 cu ft/s)
Map of the combined Tigris–Euphrates drainage basin (in yellow)
Wikimedia Commons: Euphrates

The Euphrates (Listeni/juːˈfreɪtiːz/; Arabic: الفرات‎: al-Furāt, Hebrew: פרת‎: Prat, Turkish: Fırat, Kurdish: Firat) is the longest and one of the most historically important rivers of Western Asia. Together with the Tigris, it is one of the two defining rivers of Mesopotamia. Originating in eastern Turkey, the Euphrates flows through Syria and Iraq to join the Tigris in the Shatt al-Arab, which empties into the Persian Gulf.

Euphrates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tigris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

10thlight
22-09-2012, 12:44 AM
Revelation 16
12The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. 13Then I saw three evila spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.

nascido da luz
22-09-2012, 01:38 AM
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Great effort you are doing...
:)

10thlight
22-09-2012, 07:45 AM
Katy Perry - E.T. ft. Kanye West
Katy Perry - E.T. ft. Kanye West - YouTube

10thlight
22-09-2012, 07:55 AM
More symbolism from hollywood of the fall.
SKYFALL - Official Trailer
James bond

SKYFALL - Official Trailer - YouTube

bond gets shot falls and goes into the water.Cuts to the lion then the statue of liberty with the torch of lucifer,Then the pryamid.Then the line where the hell have you been LOL
AND ALOT MORE iN THE TRAILER TOO.LOL

megahertz
22-09-2012, 08:11 AM
If you take that reference and apply it to the wrath that that sees all 7 vials poured out in a few hours you would have the end of Re:11 happen as part of the previous verses in Re:11. These particular ones would see the rivers mentions being evaporated of any/all water as a side effect of the fire that destroys Satan's Babylon (we call it Jerusalem when Satan is not there wearing a crown). The kings mentioned would have to be Gentiles that are the remnant of all the Nations (10 might be able to qualify as that is how many kingdoms were created during the 5th trump) that come for a yearly feast as described in Zec:14.

Zec:8:23:
Thus saith the LORD of hosts;
In those days it shall come to pass,
that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations,
even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew,
saying,
We will go with you:
for we have heard that God is with you.

If 10 languages are from the Gentiles and Hebrew being another perhaps that is when God reverts back to the original pure language that existed before the tower of Babel. If that was the case the verses below fit quite nicely. The splitting into 2/3 and 1/3 is done at the end of Zec:13 and the 'little ones' were started when Peter had the vision that made Gentile food clean for Jews and then some Gentiles came calling and Jesus told Peter not to question it. Perhaps that is why the new name mentioned in the 7 letters say only certain people could pronounce it.

Zep:3:8:
Therefore wait ye upon me,
saith the LORD,
until the day that I rise up to the prey:
for my determination is to gather the nations,
that I may assemble the kingdoms,
to pour upon them mine indignation,
even all my fierce anger:
for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.
Zep:3:9:
For then will I turn to the people a pure language,
that they may all call upon the name of the LORD,
to serve him with one consent.
Zep:3:10:
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants,
even the daughter of my dispersed,
shall bring mine offering.

10thlight
22-09-2012, 04:02 PM
Fallen Trailer HD
Fallen Trailer HD - YouTube

10thlight
23-09-2012, 02:04 AM
More symbolism from hollywood of the fall.
SKYFALL - Official Trailer
James bond

SKYFALL - Official Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kw1UVovByw)

bond gets shot falls and goes into the water.Cuts to the lion then the statue of liberty with the torch of lucifer,Then the pryamid.Then the line where the hell have you been LOL
AND ALOT MORE iN THE TRAILER TOO.LOL
Whats the odds of all the metaphors in that trailer?I only mentioned some too.
Listen and watch it closely

megahertz
23-09-2012, 02:53 AM
Ever read a Stephen King novel where it starts off where a guy has a child in the water at a beach and he is bound and determined to drown her, she dies and he just stands there, looking and not moving. Then you read the inside where houses are imploding and before it implodes if you enter any room it was a different dimension, the return gates were through trees. At the very end a wasp finally pops up onto the surface of the water and the guy is able to smack it hard so it dies. That was the demon's 'reserve body' and once that was 'killed'. Sorry but I don't remember the novel's exact title.

I'm seeing that as sort of like being a fallen angel in the Bible with some 'modifications'. Warrior strength is equal to 50M horsemen of the size (and attitude) of the fallen angels in the 6th trump or they can literally possess some person like Satan did with Judas, the only will be followed would be the one of the fallen angel.

Why does it always seem that there is a great deal of effort to downplay what the words say all by themselves. If man was going to 'fulfill' the Bible without God's 'help' they could try and say the 1/3 that are killed is because they possessed people rather than hacking them to death literally. That would give the men playing god the authority to then kill them as they were 'evil' people

10thlight
24-09-2012, 07:07 AM
Ever read a Stephen King novel where it starts off where a guy has a child in the water at a beach and he is bound and determined to drown her, she dies and he just stands there, looking and not moving. Then you read the inside where houses are imploding and before it implodes if you enter any room it was a different dimension, the return gates were through trees. At the very end a wasp finally pops up onto the surface of the water and the guy is able to smack it hard so it dies. That was the demon's 'reserve body' and once that was 'killed'. Sorry but I don't remember the novel's exact title.

I'm seeing that as sort of like being a fallen angel in the Bible with some 'modifications'. Warrior strength is equal to 50M horsemen of the size (and attitude) of the fallen angels in the 6th trump or they can literally possess some person like Satan did with Judas, the only will be followed would be the one of the fallen angel.

Why does it always seem that there is a great deal of effort to downplay what the words say all by themselves. If man was going to 'fulfill' the Bible without God's 'help' they could try and say the 1/3 that are killed is because they possessed people rather than hacking them to death literally. That would give the men playing god the authority to then kill them as they were 'evil' peopleNo i dont read novels.I try to stay away from them.
MY guess.
You know the bible has 66 books? 66=the fallen.
Yea satan overshadows alot of people and aliens/beings ect.

10thlight
24-09-2012, 09:45 AM
(The movie is about solomon kane which is realy both evil on both sides.
The druid cross I thought was for azazel i could be wrong though.The movie ends with it.)

But is about solomon kane fights the devil reaper turns to god and then that goes to the church for sanctuary and tries not to get his soul dammed ,but is force to leave the church and sees 2 bird beings on the way.Fights a witch and spirits and the satan ect.It has some interesting concepts about spirits and stuff.
But at the end of the day it is a hollywood movie period


Solomon Kane, Devil's Reaper Scene
Solomon Kane, Devil's Reaper Scene - YouTube

SOLOMON KANE Exclusive 10 Minute Preview
SOLOMON KANE Exclusive 10 Minute Preview - YouTube

Solomon Kane OFFICIAL TRAILER (2012) - U.S. Release
Solomon Kane OFFICIAL TRAILER (2012) - U.S. Release - YouTube

10thlight
26-09-2012, 03:09 AM
Out from the Deep - Enigma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfTEusEJ93A

We came out from the deep
To learn to love, to learn how to live
We came out from the deep
To avoid the mistake we made
That's why we are here !
.
We came out from the deep
To help and understand, but not to kill
It takes many lives till we succeed
To clear the debts of many hundres years
That's why we are here !

Tell that to the chemtrail nano crystalline program.

10thlight
27-09-2012, 01:25 AM
I just saw the movie battleship.Man does hollywood put everything in this movie deep shit!!!!Why do they put so much stuff in this movie.Metaphors galore and symbolism.lol
Very short and general Explanation.
The beacon project off the Himalayas sends a signal that sends to contact aliens.
? characters like ? girl in movie and will do any thing for her.
Aliens come from space/water
? characters brother dies and his ship.
? characters The ship john paul jones sinks and is no more.
Needs a new one find a used old one with special music being played for it?Also needs old crew to use it.
Destroy the aliens but tells them you and me and everybody is not gonna die today ,just yet.And saves the day and kills the last alien ship.
? character saves the planet and the pyramid is caped and gets his medal.
Ask her father if he can marry girl his daughter.He refers to the stunt at the begganing of the movie and will talk it over that food stunt.
Has to find the grey sea monster camera zooms in on the navy medal and it ends

Battleship Final Trailer 2012 [HD] - Official Movie Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpoabtbEJOI

10thlight
27-09-2012, 01:43 AM
I just saw the movie battleship.Man does hollywood put everything in this movie deep shit!!!!Why do they put so much stuff in this movie.Metaphors galore and symbolism.lol
Very short and general Explanation.
The beacon project off the Himalayas sends a signal that sends to contact aliens.
? characters like ? girl in movie and will do any thing for her.
Aliens come from space/water
? characters brother dies and his ship.
? characters The ship john paul jones sinks and is no more.
Needs a new one find a used old one with special music being played for it?Also needs old crew to use it.
Destroy the aliens but tells them you and me and everybody is not gonna die today ,just yet.And saves the day and kills the last alien ship.
? character saves the planet and the pyramid is caped and gets his medal.
Ask her father if he can marry girl his daughter.He refers to the stunt at the begganing of the movie and will talk it over that food stunt.
Has to find the grey sea monster camera zooms in on the navy medal and it ends

Battleship Final Trailer 2012 [HD] - Official Movie Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpoabtbEJOI
Go watch the movie and see it from a occult perspective.

10thlight
27-09-2012, 05:22 AM
Is this what the world gets or is it hell?

Logan's Run (trailer)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WUUnc1M0TA\
Is the crystal in the hand the crystalline nano stuff they are spraying.

10thlight
27-09-2012, 06:21 PM
The Black Hole In The Book of Enoch 1/5 (Cern, Large Hadron Collider, Black Holes and Revelations)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UukVS-tcqa8&feature=relmfu

The Black Hole In The Book of Enoch 2/5 (Cern, LHC, Muse, Black Holes and Revelations)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmzjm_9bKDk&feature=relmfu

The Black Hole In The Book of Enoch 3/5 (Cern, Large Hadron Collider, Fallen Angels)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrdpNgXo2KQ&NR=1&feature=endscreen

The Black Hole In The Book of Enoch 4/5 (Cern, Large Hadron Collider, Black Holes and Revelations)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SotgEe9gfK8&feature=relmfu

The Black Hole In The Book of Enoch 5/5 (Cern, Large Hadron Collider, Black Holes and Revelations)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbLSNNH5nE4&feature=relmfu

10thlight
01-10-2012, 06:51 PM
Why do people serve evil?
Is it for knowledge or power or just sick perverted lust and become like fallen gods.
Do they want us to become like them through tv and wars ect

megahertz
01-10-2012, 11:13 PM
Why do people serve evil?
Is it for knowledge or power or just sick perverted lust and become like fallen gods.
Do they want us to become like them through tv and wars ect
It is the mistaken belief that one person is more important to the 'society' than any other part. With no citizens what purpose does a 'government' have, let alone one made up of 'elected officials' when it's citizens become a 'target'. That is what the red sword in the 2nd seal is referencing, the ones that were left with the sword of protection from evil was given to the rulers of Nations, 1 per Nation..

Jeremiah is the first prophecy that covers the Gentiles coming under judgement and at that time the OT Prophet really did visit the 'leaders' of all the places mentioned. Travel provided by a fiery-wheel or somebody that is equal to an 'angel of the Lord' in power but looking like OT Jeremiah taking the message that somehow explains that someday they and all their ancestors and all their children will someday be part of a great war that is the war to end all wars, or whatever it was that gave them a prophecy that fulfilled the requirement that God tell people in advance of what will be coming sometime in the future, because of Him alone. The whole of Jer:25 says some OT era nations were told judgment would come because of something they did that was unpleasing to God. Many die in a single day, that time frame is stressed in many places in both the OT and the NT. Would the Vatican's hall of reports from Priests include any such tales before the evidence was 'erased'? How about legends that survived in 'stories' of the 'naive natives.? If they have a common ending then it is the same as the Bible says, in it's case the prophecies are 10 Nations for the last 3 1/2 years, the list in Jer:25 is more than that and includes unknown variables such as 'isles' and 'all the nations on the face of the earth'. They both cover the exact same group.

The men that are resurrected or gathered alive are not suddenly gifted with all sorts or knowledge about how the kingdom of God runs, that comes over the next 1,000 years. Any mystery about God is said to be cleared up, I don't see that as being the words to say that would make mountains (chains) to move while landscaping new pasture for the ever increasing number of like that mankind has dominion over, eternal beings if we keep them fed.

10thlight
11-10-2012, 06:31 PM
So where are we heading?Why are they spraying us with crystalline nanos and no churches or christains are saying anything about it or new agers .At;least not enough at all.Since it is one of the greatest threats to mankind and the planet.

Why did they take the book of enoch out of the bible.
Why do no churches want to talk about the fallen angels?
Why is the end times gonna be as the day of noah?

Revelation 12:9
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Why is the whole deceived?

10thlight
22-12-2012, 06:01 PM
Some more fallen angel theme movies.
Hollywoods full onslaught coming from tv and movies you will see more and more movies and tv and music themes based on them.

Transformers Trailer 1 HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrUhwet0ngg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVnjdaBaF6I


Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen OFFICIAL 3rd TRAILER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH3STHC63hU

Transformers 3 Dark of the Moon Trailer 3 Official (HD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHRf01Gjosk

Star Trek Into Darkness - Official Trailer
Star Trek Into Darkness - Official Trailer [HD] - YouTube

10thlight
22-12-2012, 06:27 PM
Pacific Rim - Official Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=yGYhyO8iKFU&NR=1

Trailer for Smallville Season 10 Premiere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPvzZs9lc8c

Crucified? like jesus...
1-1 Smallville Pilot - Clark is strung up as a Scarecrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO50Pormgno

The whole tv show is based on the fallen angels and bible hidden themes put in here and there.

Man Of Steel - Official Trailer #2 (2013) [HD]
Man Of Steel - Official Trailer #2 (2013) [HD] - YouTube