Has Icke stopped lying?

[albie]

About most Ashkenazi Jews being mainly Khazarian...when recent genetic studies show the opposite?

[albie]

He did publish his Khazarian Sitchin lies before the genetic tests, but I don't see an apology yet.

Does he just not care to be proved wrong?

And why does he still sell his old books when they have content that does not fit in with his recent Matrix...stuff?

One book Jesus was real, then he wasn't. Then he didn't know.

He seemed so convinced too, of things he has now discarded.

Like Luciferic Consciousness.

Dropped that one, didn't he. It's all Matrix now.

[mari]

I guess all of us evolve our opinions & beliefs over time, thats the way it is - we change constantly.What I believed in 5 years ago bears no relation to my beliefs now. As we continue to dig for the truth, even more stuff comes up to challenge our previous credo.
The real trick here, I guess is to have the integrity to state that your old 'dogma' doesn't hold any more.
Mari

[the king of the mountain]

I guess all of us evolve our opinions & beliefs over time, thats the way it is - we change constantly.What I believed in 5 years ago bears no relation to my beliefs now. As we continue to dig for the truth, even more stuff comes up to challenge our previous credo.
The real trick here, I guess is to have the integrity to state that your old 'dogma' doesn't hold any more.
Mari


And you'll continue to leap-frog from one belief to another, being knowingly duped by others and then fooling yourself, until you come to the realisation that everything is only what you make of it.

Therefore, stop looking for `the truth' and know that YOU are the question and the answer. Your life is nothing but a refelction of your thoughts, master them and manifest your own life.

There is nothing more for you to know. :D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224

[armoured saint]

Genetic studies is not an easy subject because the politics is unavoidable. Have you got something to share with us about the Ashkenazi, Albie?

[the king of the mountain]

He did publish his Khazarian Sitchin lies before the genetic tests, but I don't see an apology yet.

Does he just not care to be proved wrong?

And why does he still sell his old books when they have content that does not fit in with his recent Matrix...stuff?

One book Jesus was real, then he wasn't. Then he didn't know.

He seemed so convinced too, of things he has now discarded.

Like Luciferic Consciousness.

Dropped that one, didn't he. It's all Matrix now.

David Icke believes he is beyond reproach, always was and probably always will be. :D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224

[thirdwave]

About most Ashkenazi Jews being mainly Khazarian...when recent genetic studies show the opposite?


just a word of advice.... now you obviously have a question you wanted clearing up regarding Ickes research.... and have every right to bring it up.... but starting the thread accusing Icke of being a lier is just going to get the thread closed and have you rushing back to the other Sess pit shouting out how over moderated this place is.

"Dont agree with Ickes Ashkenazi Jews info" would have been a better way and would have created a fare thread a fare point that could have then been discussed.

just pointing it out before it happens.

[thirdwave]

And you'll continue to leap-frog from one belief to another, being knowingly duped by others and then fooling yourself, until you come to the realisation that everything is only what you make of it.

Therefore, stop looking for `the truth' and know that YOU are the question and the answer. Your life is nothing but a refelction of your thoughts, master them and manifest your own life.

There is nothing more for you to know. :D

very odd words coming from someone who keeps his true views very close to his chest and covers them up with endless contradictions and silly pictures. yet has so much to say about other peoples view points... mmm anyone would think you are up to something young man.

[synergy777]

whatever the ashkenazi/khazers are, they are not the true biblical hebrews, these being more ethiopian than east european. hence the enslavement, robbery and scattering of them throughout the globe, the suppression/editing of their history, look at egypt, african.

[mari]

And you'll continue to leap-frog from one belief to another, being knowingly duped by others and then fooling yourself, until you come to the realisation that everything is only what you make of it.

Therefore, stop looking for `the truth' and know that YOU are the question and the answer. Your life is nothing but a refelction of your thoughts, master them and manifest your own life.

There is nothing more for you to know. :D

Not so. Being 'duped' has nothing to do with it: I hear/read something, & if it resonates with me - if it feels 'right' THEN I take it on board. It IS all about going within - you are right on that count, but Its not about bouncing back & forth between 'stuff'. We are ALL looking for something & we have to try out new ideas to see if they 'fit' - thats what spiritual evolution is all about

Yes, you're correct - everything IS what we make of it, even Icke's stuff......

[thirdwave]

Not so. Being 'duped' has nothing to do with it: I hear/read something, & if it resonates with me - if it feels 'right' THEN I take it on board. It IS all about going within - you are right on that count, but Its not about bouncing back & forth between 'stuff'. We are ALL looking for something & we have to try out new ideas to see if they 'fit' - thats what spiritual evolution is all about

Yes, you're correct - everything IS what we make of it, even Icke's stuff......


well said...

[albie]

If Icke knows about this research and he hasn't chosen to alter his opinion through subsequent publications then he IS A liar.

Logic.

And Synergy, the genetic tests show that a good majority of ashkenazi jews ARE related to the original Hebrew jews.
The physical appearance changed, but that's not all we are.

and isn't it idiotic of Icke to connect the word NAZI to AshkeNAZI?

I think so.

And close this thread and ban me by all means. I'm all for censorship and locking up people like David Irving for spreading harmful lies.

Mmm, Icke's a Holocaust denier too isn't he?

When does he get locked up? I bet he avoids certain countries when he peddles his verbal..erm...stuff.

[albie]

Not so. Being 'duped' has nothing to do with it: I hear/read something, & if it resonates with me - if it feels 'right' THEN I take it on board. It IS all about going within - you are right on that count, but Its not about bouncing back & forth between 'stuff'. We are ALL looking for something & we have to try out new ideas to see if they 'fit' - thats what spiritual evolution is all about

Yes, you're correct - everything IS what we make of it, even Icke's stuff......

Yeah, the old Icke way. Is The Isle of Arran still afloat?:D

[seamus]

and isn't it idiotic of Icke to connect the word NAZI to AshkeNAZI?

I think so.

[...]
Mmm, Icke's a Holocaust denier too isn't he?

When does he get locked up? I bet he avoids certain countries when he peddles his verbal..erm...stuff.

Yes he avoids countries in which a few whiners can dictate to the PColice whom should be locked up.

No it's not idiotic to link Ashkenazi to Nazi. It very well could be one of those cute ironies the Illuminati are so fond of.

And I never heard Icke deny that many Jews were targeted and killed by the Nazi regime. But even the formerly-famed Douglas Reed was blackballed to the max when he shot down the 6 million figure.

And lastly, Since when do you call a partially-consumed offering a HOLOCAUST???

holocaust -n -a whole burnt offering.

The Jews NEVER were a whole offering to the one they claimed as their God. That's why they got the boot from jerusalem... For the second time (70C.E.)! Now the zionist elite want to paint this sad picture of how the Jews were almost wiped out (funny, no one cries for Kulaks or Ukrainians under Stalin). And you have the gall to label someone who doesn't parrot "6 million! 6 million!"

I suggest you read some Douglas Reed (objective humanist journalist). Maybe start with Insanity fair, and follow up with The Controversy of Zion. He finished writing it in 1956 or so, outside of the context of a revisionist countercurrent. It is essential to remember this while reading. The chapter on the Protocols is chilling. It could have been written last year. No, he doesn't even assign it to Jewish authorship, but that's not the real focus anyway. The whole Jewish issue is a red herring to keep us plugged in to the good guy, bad guy thought pattern. Zion does NOT equal Jews. There's something much deeper going on there. I don't claim to know what it is.

s

[thirdwave]

If Icke knows about this research and he hasn't chosen to alter his opinion through subsequent publications then he IS A liar.

Logic.

And Synergy, the genetic tests show that a good majority of ashkenazi jews ARE related to the original Hebrew jews.
The physical appearance changed, but that's not all we are.

and isn't it idiotic of Icke to connect the word NAZI to AshkeNAZI?

I think so.

And close this thread and ban me by all means. I'm all for censorship and locking up people like David Irving for spreading harmful lies.

Mmm, Icke's a Holocaust denier too isn't he?

When does he get locked up? I bet he avoids certain countries when he peddles his verbal..erm...stuff.

from the info you have gathered and with the outlook you have, then in your opinion he is a "lier" .... but thats just your opinion.

IMO your talking rubbish.

[jimijams]

just a word of advice.... now you obviously have a question you wanted clearing up regarding Ickes research.... and have every right to bring it up.... but starting the thread accusing Icke of being a lier is just going to get the thread closed and have you rushing back to the other Sess pit shouting out how over moderated this place is.

"Dont agree with Ickes Ashkenazi Jews info" would have been a better way and would have created a fare thread a fare point that could have then been discussed.

just pointing it out before it happens.
I bet you'd love to be a moderater because you're certainly starting to sound like one.. Good work.:p

[thirdwave]

I bet you'd love to be a moderater because you're certainly starting to sound like one.. Good work.:p



I think I would make a good one:), good judge of character me ...

naa, im just interested to see how they handle this place as half the people here now are just out to get the guy in a very persistent way....

its not only Icke.... its anyone who spreads info that threats people religious views of there belief structure as icke would put it....

and it really gets on my nerves when these people would rather put there energy into mocking and stopping this info rather than nurturing it and spreading it...

im actually a very mellow guy but when i see injustice it kind of hits a button.

[albie]

Icke is worse than a denier. He believes the jews rule the world and kill babies and kill their own so that they can live in Israel so that they can bring about an apoclayse straight from the bible.

He's a liar alright, and a bloody crap one.:D

Arizona Wilder my shiny ass.

But of course Icke hides the true fact that Jews aren't the real people he hates.

Considering he believes the Persians are behind it all, masquerading as Jews.

That is where the annunaki landed , wasn't it? Iran.

Yeah, he won't come out and directly say it, because it's not what the students and loonies want to hear. That won't sell any books, knocking more brown folk.

Knocking the Persians.

Yeah, but he'll gladly point his hate at the jews...and only give one page in his book to actually saying outright that the jews aren't to blame.

But that doesn't stop the idiots attacking jews generally.

[albie]

HAHAHHA

My post has been edited; removing swear words directed at Persian aliens. (real aliens, not shop keepers)

If I'd reiterated all the foul lies that Icke throws at the Jews however, I would have been made a Moderator.

What a wonderful unconditional love people you Ickeians are.........................................not.

[edelweiss pirate]

Have you stopped being a mason troll Albie?

You were sussed from the start of your nefarious and unpleasant trolling career over at davidickeforum.com only there was no troll slaying mods....

And you tell a few people you're drunk and post some mildy obscene joke and suddenly everyone thinks you're one of the lads who likes a laugh...

Well, I hope you won't find this place as ready to swallow your masonic shit nuggets.

[albie]

POint out my bullshit and shame me. You can't. Any more than the others could.

I'm the master troll.

Figure it out.

[edelweiss pirate]

I just think that David Icke's forum does not need people ridiculing David Icke and his supporters... Nor do we need masons here Albie... I think you are aware of david's attitude to your sort.

[thoth]

If Icke knows about this research and he hasn't chosen to alter his opinion through subsequent publications then he IS A liar.

Logic.

And Synergy, the genetic tests show that a good majority of ashkenazi jews ARE related to the original Hebrew jews.
The physical appearance changed, but that's not all we are.

and isn't it idiotic of Icke to connect the word NAZI to AshkeNAZI?

I think so.

And close this thread and ban me by all means. I'm all for censorship and locking up people like David Irving for spreading harmful lies.

Mmm, Icke's a Holocaust denier too isn't he?

When does he get locked up? I bet he avoids certain countries when he peddles his verbal..erm...stuff.



Please help me. I am not clear at all that there is a such thing as Jewish race. Mediteranean, maybe. Jewish or Hebrew, unlikely. I think that the 'genetic tests' that were done support an agenda. Do you know what the GOYIM are? Thats cattle, and thats anyone who is NOT Jewish. This is the earliest form of racism. How is it that only the 'Jews' are chosen, and everyone else is fucked? Sounds like Illumination to me. I don't see how a political movement became a race anyway. People need to let go of this chosen people b.s.

[thoth]

Yes he avoids countries in which a few whiners can dictate to the PColice whom should be locked up.

No it's not idiotic to link Ashkenazi to Nazi. It very well could be one of those cute ironies the Illuminati are so fond of.

And I never heard Icke deny that many Jews were targeted and killed by the Nazi regime. But even the formerly-famed Douglas Reed was blackballed to the max when he shot down the 6 million figure.

And lastly, Since when do you call a partially-consumed offering a HOLOCAUST???

holocaust -n -a whole burnt offering.

The Jews NEVER were a whole offering to the one they claimed as their God. That's why they got the boot from jerusalem... For the second time (70C.E.)! Now the zionist elite want to paint this sad picture of how the Jews were almost wiped out (funny, no one cries for Kulaks or Ukrainians under Stalin). And you have the gall to label someone who doesn't parrot "6 million! 6 million!"

I suggest you read some Douglas Reed (objective humanist journalist). Maybe start with Insanity fair, and follow up with The Controversy of Zion. He finished writing it in 1956 or so, outside of the context of a revisionist countercurrent. It is essential to remember this while reading. The chapter on the Protocols is chilling. It could have been written last year. No, he doesn't even assign it to Jewish authorship, but that's not the real focus anyway. The whole Jewish issue is a red herring to keep us plugged in to the good guy, bad guy thought pattern. Zion does NOT equal Jews. There's something much deeper going on there. I don't claim to know what it is.

s


No, fuck that. Mao Sae Tung killed 23,000,000 between 1960-65. No one did a damn thing! This shit is all manipulation. I don't believe in a chosen people, period!

[thoth]

Have you stopped being a mason troll Albie?

You were sussed from the start of your nefarious and unpleasant trolling career over at davidickeforum.com only there was no troll slaying mods....

And you tell a few people you're drunk and post some mildy obscene joke and suddenly everyone thinks you're one of the lads who likes a laugh...

Well, I hope you won't find this place as ready to swallow your masonic shit nuggets.

Mason? My buck stops right here on this discussion!

[edelweiss pirate]

I've got Jewish blood myself.. not for one second did I feel personally offended by anything Icke said......

Just look up the Talmud... If that's what those guys believe then they're head mental. Judaism is the acme of rascism.

Hear about the Orthodox gang of Jews who beat the shit out of an American woman on a bus in Israel because she wouldn't sit in her prescribe seat...

They've got issues. Big issues!

And don't get me started on the state of Israel, Oi Vey!

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud
Where a Jew Should Do Evil



Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Insults Against Blessed Mary

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

[thoth]

I've got Jewish blood myself.. not for one second did I feel personally offended by anything Icke said......

Just look up the Talmud... If that's what those guys believe then they're head mental. Judaism is the acme of rascism.

Hear about the Orthodox gang of Jews who beat the shit out of an American woman on a bus in Israel because she wouldn't sit in her prescribe seat...

They've got issues. Big issues!

And don't get me started on the state of Israel, Oi Vey!

Yep.

[thoth]

I've got Jewish blood myself.. not for one second did I feel personally offended by anything Icke said......

Just look up the Talmud... If that's what those guys believe then they're head mental. Judaism is the acme of rascism.

Hear about the Orthodox gang of Jews who beat the shit out of an American woman on a bus in Israel because she wouldn't sit in her prescribe seat...

They've got issues. Big issues!

And don't get me started on the state of Israel, Oi Vey!

Why'd you drop the link?

[thirdwave]

Mason? My buck stops right here on this discussion!


splendid.

[albie]

You don't realise that you are being racist. What jew believes all he reads in the Talmud? What Christain believes all he reads in the bible.

Using the Talmud to figure jews are racist and evil is sickening.

You are a filthy example of an Ickeian racist.

Studies done with jewish ashkenazi women showed that 40% of them carried a genetic mutation that only exists in Sephardic jews.

This is significant enough to destroy Sitchins rubbish.

Of course, you will now say "40 % isn't even half."

Because you fail to understand that for 40 % of them to carry a particular genetic mutation shows is highly outstanding genetically.

I they had been mainly Khazarian to start with you wouldn't see such a high percentage.

[albie]

Why would a Mason bother with people like you? Your beliefs are so crazy that no sane person would ever subscribe to them.

It isn't needed for a Mason or anyone to rubbish you.

You do it yourself.

Now attack my ideas, fascist.

[thoth]

You don't realise that you are being racist. What jew believes all he reads in the Talmud? What Christain believes all he reads in the bible.

Using the Talmud to figure jews are racist and evil is sickening.

You are a filthy example of an Ickeian racist.

Studies done with jewish ashkenazi women showed that 40% of them carried a genetic mutation that only exists in Sephardic jews.

This is significant enough to destroy Sitchins rubbish.

Of course, you will now say "40 % isn't even half."

Because you fail to understand that for 40 % of them to carry a particular genetic mutation shows is highly outstanding genetically.

I they had been mainly Khazarian to start with you wouldn't see such a high percentage.


I think you need to calm down, 1st off . I don't think that this information proves that Jews are a chosen people. It just shows that most Jews are from the Mid East, so. Does that make you chosen? I am pretty sure that there are other percentages in other people of the world as well. That does NOT mean that you are decended from God or chosen. Your point sir?

[edelweiss pirate]

No Albie, that's what you Masons are trying to make people believe, but we ain't buying it...

You masons were created by King Herodus and Queen Hella to serve the Jewish race and YOU are carrying out that job to a tee (bet you get a promotion)...

There is only one race Mason and We know it.. The Human Race...

Your apocalypse wet dream of WW3 was recently exposed by your buffoon of an Isreali president who stated that he would stay in his job even if it meant WW3.... oops, humans are such fiable vehicles for your plans aren't they... like fishing nets with holes in them... Go back to your lodge and enjoy the stink of your stagnant underground sewer...

[thoth]

Why would a Mason bother with people like you? Your beliefs are so crazy that no sane person would ever subscribe to them.

It isn't needed for a Mason or anyone to rubbish you.

You do it yourself.

Now attack my ideas, fascist.

:D

[thoth]

No Albie, that's what you Masons are trying to make people believe, but we ain't buying it...

You masons were created by King Herodus and Queen Hella to serve the Jewish race and YOU are carrying out that job to a tee (bet you get a promotion)...

There is only one race Mason and We know it.. The Human Race...

Your apocalypse wet dream of WW3 was recently exposed by your buffoon of an Isreali president who stated that he would stay in his job even if it meant WW3.... oops, humans are such fiable vehicles for your plans aren't they... like fishing nets with holes in them... Go back to your lodge and enjoy the stink of your stagnant underground sewer...

Damn, harsh, but good!

[albie]

I think you need to calm down, 1st off . I don't think that this information proves that Jews are a chosen people. It just shows that most Jews are from the Mid East, so. Does that make you chosen? I am pretty sure that there are other percentages in other people of the world as well. That does NOT mean that you are decended from God or chosen. Your point sir?

I never said they were the chosen people. do you know anything about Jews? about Zionism?

Ashkenazi are said, by racists, to be mainly Khazarian. Hence they can't claim Israel as their land.

The genetic tests prove they can.

[thoth]

I never said they were the chosen people. do you know anything about Jews? about Zionism?

Ashkenazi are said, by racists, to be mainly Khazarian. Hence they can't claim Israel as their land.

The genetic tests prove they can.

The human race my friend, thats it, period!

[albie]

No Albie, that's what you Masons are trying to make people believe, but we ain't buying it...

You masons were created by King Herodus and Queen Hella to serve the Jewish race and YOU are carrying out that job to a tee (bet you get a promotion)...

There is only one race Mason and We know it.. The Human Race...

Your apocalypse wet dream of WW3 was recently exposed by your buffoon of an Isreali president who stated that he would stay in his job even if it meant WW3.... oops, humans are such fiable vehicles for your plans aren't they... like fishing nets with holes in them... Go back to your lodge and enjoy the stink of your stagnant underground sewer...

The fact that people say such things proves they are human and are being attacked by people like you.

You say nothing in this post worth attacking.

PROVE what you say about masons. Go on. You can't.

[albie]

The human race my friend, thats it, period!

You aren't even saying anything relevant to what I'm saying.

That's ridiculous.

Think a few seconds before you post.

[thoth]

You aren't even saying anything relevant to what I'm saying.

That's ridiculous.

Think a few seconds before you post.

Do we need to say anything more 2 each other at this stage? I don't.

[albie]

No. You have your lies already imbedded. Nothing I can do about it.

Scared to debate with me are you?

A lot of people here seem to be.

[thoth]

I never said they were the chosen people. do you know anything about Jews? about Zionism?

Ashkenazi are said, by racists, to be mainly Khazarian. Hence they can't claim Israel as their land.

The genetic tests prove they can.

Israel is just that, a piece of land. No one has right to any of the earth, period. I think that you and I having a discussion about this is not doing anything on either end. Good day to you my friend

[thoth]

No. You have your lies already imbedded. Nothing I can do about it.

Scared to debate with me are you?

A lot of people here seem to be.

I can't argue or have a verbal battle w/someone who has no arms. That would be wrong on my behalf. Good day

[amar7]

I can't argue or have a verbal battle w/someone who has no arms. That would be wrong on my behalf. Good day

^^good one..
i dunno if this guy is a mason and neither do i understand, why ppl call him mason.
all i know is that he is very good in distorting the truth. there is no point in discussing with him, cuz he wont listn anyway with his imbedded view.
but i am sure that he wont fool the ppl here, who understand the truth about racist zionism and judaism

[purple is a fruit]

^^good one..
i dunno if this guy is a mason and neither do i understand, why ppl call him mason.
all i know is that he is very good in distorting the truth. there is no point in discussing with him, cuz he wont listn anyway with his imbedded view.
but i am sure that he wont fool the ppl here, who understand the truth about racist zionism and judaism

it is his job to distort the truth(and i don't even think he is even slightly good at it IMO) he does not fool anyone.

[king]

About most Ashkenazi Jews being mainly Khazarian...when recent genetic studies show the opposite?

what studies?

[edelweiss pirate]

^^good one..
i dunno if this guy is a mason and neither do i understand, why ppl call him mason.
all i know is that he is very good in distorting the truth. there is no point in discussing with him, cuz he wont listn anyway with his imbedded view.
but i am sure that he wont fool the ppl here, who understand the truth about racist zionism and judaism

He's a mason agent I know who's come over from another forum... since I've outed him he seems to have made himself scarce... Be aware there are at least 4 masons I know of from the davidickeforum.com who may end up over here...

Assume that anyone here who does not support the conspiracy community is an agent...why would they be here otherwise?... It might be tempting to give some people the benefit of the doubt... you can't actually afford to do this, I myself and many people I know have been manipulated and terribly hurt by these people for that very reason. Whether on forums or in the outside world.. Any weakness or lack of resolve on our part will be exploited...

[albie]

Rubbish. You haven't outed anyone. You are about 5 foot 2 aren't you?

[thirdwave]

lol, it makes me laugh seeing all the trolls try in imprint them selfs in this forum by all of a sudden conversing properly... so they can weasel their way into the forum and do there shilling... and they think it is going un noticed :D

[albie]

That's true, I do appear to be doing that. Maybe you've just uncovered something even I didn't know.

Maybe I am a mason shill.

But then shouldn't you be trying to get in my good books so you can find out what I know?

Not smart of you to antagonise me.

I know that the masons are a secretive order, but they can't be so secretive that their members don't even know that they are in it.

(who said that joke first?)

And actually, where do I revert to being nice? Please point this out.

If I was a masonic shill I would be nice to the members, like you are being. I wouldn't just come all out balls in your mouth mad-shite, now would I?

THINK!

[edelweiss pirate]

I know what you are.. a mason troll.

To respond to your nonsense:

The last person to say anything honest about the masons would be a mason.

Mason shills do not admit to being mason shills because they can no longer operate, they will try to retain their cover and reinvent themselves (which is precisely what you are doing on the other forum right now... suddenly the illuminati exist where before we were all deluded nut jobs, funny the turnaround eh?)..

A disinfo agent does not seek to be nice, he seeks to antagonise and disrupt and discredit those who post information... He bullies and mocks the people on sites like this... exactly as you have done on Davidickeforum.com..

You are a classic troll. A textbook case. Something needs to be done.

[thirdwave]

That's true, I do appear to be doing that. Maybe you've just uncovered something even I didn't know.

Maybe I am a mason shill.

But then shouldn't you be trying to get in my good books so you can find out what I know?

Not smart of you to antagonise me.

I know that the masons are a secretive order, but they can't be so secretive that their members don't even know that they are in it.

(who said that joke first?)

And actually, where do I revert to being nice? Please point this out.

If I was a masonic shill I would be nice to the members, like you are being. I wouldn't just come all out balls in your mouth mad-shite, now would I?

THINK!


Maybe I am a mason shill.

But then shouldn't you be trying to get in my good books so you can find out what I know?

I dont care what Masons know. I know that Masons are not as smart as they think, and i know they are not superior to my self. other than that i don't care what they know.

Not smart of you to antagonise me.
are you saying one should suck up to freemasons? ,why?

I know that the masons are a secretive order, but they can't be so secretive that their members don't even know that they are in it.

mm ok, but whats your point here?

And actually, where do I revert to being nice? Please point this out.

where did i say you were not being nice? ... shills are often "nice".

If I was a masonic shill I would be nice to the members, like you are being. I wouldn't just come all out balls in your mouth mad-shite, now would I?

I think shills come in all shapes and sizes.

Im not accusing you of being a mason as such, although It would not shock me... but I do see that you are either a, very much motivated to discourage any positive talk of David Icke and his supporters b, very confused by the work he does to the point it has messed up your head a little...

either way I do not think your arguments are based on a very un-trustworthy source.

THINK!
I do, but don't think to much or the Shills will come out to get ya ;)

[demonsnare]

you are all falling for illuminati agents posing as posters to create havoc.....they are full of hatred

[sean]

Can we not continue the flame wars here please, its all getting a little too personal.

Thanks.

[sweet cheeks]

you are all falling for illuminati agents posing as posters to create havoc.....they are full of hatred

And shite! :D ;)

[thirdwave]

And shite! :D ;)

and panic

[amar7]

this albie guy should get the f**k out if he doesnt like it here (mason or not i dont care). i mean how stupid and disturbing is this??
it's like i go to the forum of the band i hate most and post up bs all the time.
neither i will convince the fans to hate the band nor will they convince me to like em..

i think one should just boycott members like him because discussion is just pointless and it leads to 'flame wars' as sean sayed..
if i was a mod, he'd be on probation or banned for causing conflict on the forum.

[seamus]

for peet's sake, look at his avatar! It should be obvious, no?

He is STRANGLING every thread he comes into!!!

DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!!


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[albie]

If I was a mason I would be nice. I'm not being nice, or quiet. You are more likely to be a mason, getting on their side. I'm clealry just a twat who isn't convinced by the weak, weak evidence for the illuminati plot.

Calling me a mason shill validates your delusion.

[albie]

A classic tactic of abusers is to demand proof from the one who accuses them. Most of the time of course, there is no proof. And so the abuser goes free.
This particular agent 'Albie' is easy enough to spot. Please vote for a ban.

In this case however, his every post is proof of his contempt for Icke, for us and indeed the whole conspiracy movement...

This place needs to be safe for everyone to post without fear of ridicule because many of the things people who have escaped from secret societies seem incredible, if we are to hope to become a forum where important

Yeah, how devious and sly of me to ask for proof. This highlights exactly your problem. You don't want proof, because you know what you believe is crap.

[albie]

This place needs to be safe for everyone to post without fear of ridicule because many of the things people who have escaped from secret societies seem incredible, if we are to hope to become a forum where important

You mean you want everyone to believe what you do. Unchallenged.

[thirdwave]

You mean you want everyone to believe what you do. Unchallenged.

no its quite clear this is not what he means...

I take it as, if you really feel you need to challenge our views, which you clearly do, then you need to do it in a more evolved and civilized manner.

example... rather than coming in shouting "Is David Icke still a lier" then you are immediately attacking somone and making accusations... implying that he is a proven lier when this is not the case... you are free to do so, but you should not be surprised to get a negative reaction from the forum... if anyone came into my home and start accusing others of things and being argumentative I would tell them to leave.

what the forum would prefer is something more like... "a question regarding Ickes research" and then explain to us that you think he has got stuff wrong and discuss this with others and create some conclusions out of your thread, as its only your opinion that he is a lier, and calling somone a lier is an insult, if he had been taken to court and was found to be guilty of lying then your comment would have more substance to it, but its not its just a provocation.

[albie]

I've asked you quite plainly for proof of your beliefs. I get nothing. all I get is Pirate implying I'm a child killer nonce mason. That IS what he is implying.

Because that's what I'm inferring.

And he quite plainly does not have any proof by his own admission.

He believes something out of prejudice.

[sgt rock]

Liars, thieves, vagabonds and undesirables of every nature should count themselves on borrowed time. Either serve it wisely and repent your sins to Our Lord, or we'll have you up a chimney or off to the Colonies shooting the heathen quicker than your feet will touch the ground.

[rambleblatt]

It is certainly a controversial question to ask, but sadly it may need answered.

Nobody is perfect, that's a given despite what they say. I don't mind listening to things people have ideas about, they might be wrong and they might be right. These questions that we ask are quite difficult to answer, and the answers difficult to disentangle. So I give David Icke leeway to make errors of knowledge, intelligence and judgment - it's called being human.

However, during his legal spat, on the front page, he made a claim that his abuser who 'stole his books' was described as living in a 'million dollar home', and David said he stayed in a 'one bedroomed flat'. Is this true? He never seems to be in a one bedroomed flat in the videos he does. Anyone know, cos I have been unable to confirm or deny this. If it is true - where do he and his family sleep?

[houdini]

although im not in total agreement with what albie is saying, it seems funny that he gets his posts edited by the webmaster for swearing (so albie says), i mean it could have been he abused another member, i dont know, but seeing as he is getting called mason and a shrill it seems funny that the posters that are calling him this arent getting little webmaster messages at the bottom of their posts stating that they are abusing and antagonizing a fellow member.

and if the pirate could name these masons he knows of in other forums that would very nice too, after all its he who found them out right?, so there must be some pretty conclusive proof for him to make statements like that.
if one has found this out then one would warn all other posters of them and name them so we can be watchful of them in future.
i dont like masons. i'd like to know who they are thank you very much.


calling someone a liar is an insult, but calling them a masonic shrill and someone else saying that theyd wish this 'supposed' mason would 'f#@k off isnt an insult?
albie how many points ya got racked up so far dude?...oh and i agree with ya, ....pirate has no proof, other wise we would have already read it.
i expect to be at 15 points in a few mins btw....maybe even banned for askiing questions and making staements.

[edelweiss pirate]

His behaviour is disinfo agent disruptor. I've actually already exoposed two other masons on the other forum. One of whom now publicly admits to being a mason. His name is Marco and fortunately he hasn't arrived here yet. I expect Albie is scouting for him. I can smell a rat. Why would you try to prevent this work I'm doing. Is ego getting the way of your judgement?

Or are you another Rik shouting 'fascism' at everyone who doesn't want this forum to go to shit.

Maybe if you don't support Icke and his work you shouldn't be here.... why else does Albie bother, or you?