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25-03-2007, 07:29 PM
Hi, I'm new to this board. I've been following Icke, Maxwell, Jones etc. for some months now. Their truths can't be deprogrammed, so I guess I have to stay here for decent conversations.
I'm watching Pandora's Box from Adam Curtis (watch full screen (http://www.youtube.com/watch_fullscreen?video_id=Bf0ORy4BzMY&l=2646&t=OEgsToPDskIVN4XLWwKTfXw6f1ZCJGXa&sk=gyTtPlP94sTGRsPloi02AwU&fs=1&title=Pandora's%20Box%20-%20Ep%201%20-%20The%20Engineer's%20Plot)). From 20:40, these radio messages are heard:
"Hello, good evening everybody. This is Moscow calling."
...
"The trial of the counter-revolutionary Trotsky Wrecking Group
in the Kimarova mines is over."
...
"The proletarian court.."
...
"Trotsky's reptiles and their foreign protectors, are able to undermine .."
:eek:
To undermine what??
No Google results on this sentence.
"As a People's Commissary for Military Affairs, Trotsky introduced the pentagram - the five-pointed star - as the symbol of the Red Army. The Cabbalists had taken over this symbol of black magic from the witches in ancient Chaldea. With the aid of Alexander Parvus, Trotsky reached the conclusion that the true purpose of freemasonry was to eliminate the nation states and their cultures and to introduce a Judaised world state.
This is also stated in "The Secret Initiation into the 33rd Degree": "Freemasonry is nothing more and nothing less than revolution in action, continuous conspiracy." Bronstein became a convinced internationalist who, through Parvus, learned that the Jewish people were their own collective Messiah and would reach domination over all peoples through the mixing of the other races and elimination of national boundaries.
An international republic was to be created, where the Jews would be the ruling element, since no others would be able to understand and control the masses. Leiba Bronstein became a member of the French Masonic lodge Art et Travail, to which Lenin also belonged, but in addition joined B'nai B'rith, according to the political scientist Karl Steinhauser ("EG - Die Super-UdSSR von morgen" / "EU - the Super Soviet Union of Tomorrow", Vienna, 1992, p. 162).
Leon Trotsky became a member of the Jewish Masonic order B'nai B'rith in New York, in January 1917. (Yuri Begunov, Secret Forces in the History of Russia, St. Petersburg, 1995, pp. 138-139.) He was already a member of the Misraim-Memphis freemasonry.
Winston Churchill confirmed in 1920 that Trotsky was also an Illuminatus. (Illustrated Sunday Herald, 8 February 1920.) Trotsky eventually reached a very high position within freemasonry, since he belonged to the Shriner Lodge, which only freemasons of the 32nd degree and higher were allowed to join. Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Alexander Kerensky, Béla Kun, and other leading politicians have also been among these select few. (Professor Johan von Leers, The Power behind the President, Stockholm, 1941, p. 148.)"
- Leon Trotsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- Great Purge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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A second question: Icke says he has talked to hundreds of people who claim they have seen people shape shifting to reptiles. But there are no recordings from this conversations, are there? There's only the fake Brandon Corey story... I want to hear those hundreds of people sharing their experience! How difficult can that be?
I'm watching Pandora's Box from Adam Curtis (watch full screen (http://www.youtube.com/watch_fullscreen?video_id=Bf0ORy4BzMY&l=2646&t=OEgsToPDskIVN4XLWwKTfXw6f1ZCJGXa&sk=gyTtPlP94sTGRsPloi02AwU&fs=1&title=Pandora's%20Box%20-%20Ep%201%20-%20The%20Engineer's%20Plot)). From 20:40, these radio messages are heard:
"Hello, good evening everybody. This is Moscow calling."
...
"The trial of the counter-revolutionary Trotsky Wrecking Group
in the Kimarova mines is over."
...
"The proletarian court.."
...
"Trotsky's reptiles and their foreign protectors, are able to undermine .."
:eek:
To undermine what??
No Google results on this sentence.
"As a People's Commissary for Military Affairs, Trotsky introduced the pentagram - the five-pointed star - as the symbol of the Red Army. The Cabbalists had taken over this symbol of black magic from the witches in ancient Chaldea. With the aid of Alexander Parvus, Trotsky reached the conclusion that the true purpose of freemasonry was to eliminate the nation states and their cultures and to introduce a Judaised world state.
This is also stated in "The Secret Initiation into the 33rd Degree": "Freemasonry is nothing more and nothing less than revolution in action, continuous conspiracy." Bronstein became a convinced internationalist who, through Parvus, learned that the Jewish people were their own collective Messiah and would reach domination over all peoples through the mixing of the other races and elimination of national boundaries.
An international republic was to be created, where the Jews would be the ruling element, since no others would be able to understand and control the masses. Leiba Bronstein became a member of the French Masonic lodge Art et Travail, to which Lenin also belonged, but in addition joined B'nai B'rith, according to the political scientist Karl Steinhauser ("EG - Die Super-UdSSR von morgen" / "EU - the Super Soviet Union of Tomorrow", Vienna, 1992, p. 162).
Leon Trotsky became a member of the Jewish Masonic order B'nai B'rith in New York, in January 1917. (Yuri Begunov, Secret Forces in the History of Russia, St. Petersburg, 1995, pp. 138-139.) He was already a member of the Misraim-Memphis freemasonry.
Winston Churchill confirmed in 1920 that Trotsky was also an Illuminatus. (Illustrated Sunday Herald, 8 February 1920.) Trotsky eventually reached a very high position within freemasonry, since he belonged to the Shriner Lodge, which only freemasons of the 32nd degree and higher were allowed to join. Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Alexander Kerensky, Béla Kun, and other leading politicians have also been among these select few. (Professor Johan von Leers, The Power behind the President, Stockholm, 1941, p. 148.)"
- Leon Trotsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- Great Purge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
--------
A second question: Icke says he has talked to hundreds of people who claim they have seen people shape shifting to reptiles. But there are no recordings from this conversations, are there? There's only the fake Brandon Corey story... I want to hear those hundreds of people sharing their experience! How difficult can that be?