JONES IN FIGHT With WEBSTER TARPLEY OVER RON Paul

[wakeup2nwo]

Well one of them are wrong. Jones acts like a muppet whether hes right or wrong. tarpley stays on topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhRgMvjII3s#!

Adam Kokesh debates Webster Tarpley at Occupy Bilderberg 2012 - YouTube

[stevie0013]

That was a pretty serious falling out. I agree with Webster more then Alex but i think ther both good guys. Ron Paul is just a shill like the rest of them, the best of a bad bunch. Anyways, it was pretty entertaining for the neutral :D

[king triad]

There are people on Alex's prison planet that still think Ron Paul is going to be president..deluded fools..

[spellbound]

I have more respect for Tarpley than AJ.......Tarpley is making a lot of sense IMO...

WOW!...This is interesting....

[rolf harris]

Tarpley completely owned Alex Jones and all Jones could do was resort to insults.

[largejack]

People on the same side do argue and have differences about things from time to time! :D

Personally I don't know about Ron Paul. What I do know is that the press ignore him, the establishment hate him, and there's been evidence of shenanigans to keep him out.

[ellis_deatrip]

All three of them have proven themselves to be hiding personal agendas. But IMO, Tarpley has alot less to hide. Both Libertarianism (Jones & Paul)and Communism(Tarpley) are Jewish Ideologies.
Wow, Jones really got dodgy when Tarpley brought up the Scottish Rite Freemasonry issue.
Tarpley completely owned Alex Jones and all Jones could do was resort to insults.
+100 Jones got pwned!

[largejack]

Sounds like a typical debate on the David Icke forum? :D

I have to point out that this interview was nearly a year ago? Not sure how things have developed since on his view of the Pauls?

[ronisron]

To be honest, I found the debate with Kokesh to be far more informative --
Jones gets all Bill O' Reilly when things don't go his way....:D

Tarpley is a very intelligent man. He even threw "Cult of peronalities" at Kokesh but it of course went right over the young man's head.

[rayne]

They've fallen out before over a similiar thing. It took them about 1 year, but they made up after it. I can see where they're both coming from on either side, as both answer aren't perfect, if you ask me.

[parenthesis]

Good ol Tarpley, the pie-in-the-sky commie. Maybe one day his beloved controllers will actually succeed in working for the people. The world is still waiting for a case where that happens. I like how he talks as if Ron Paul is an anarchist in the Kokesh interview. And he focuses on the one guy at Bilderbergers who gave money to Ron Paul.

If Ron Paul would really be such a blessing to corporate feudalism, then I wonder why they are all giving money to the international socialists?

Sorry Tarpley, Paul is not an anarchist, he's a constitutionalist who wants nothing to do with the IMF, World Bank, or being the global police force. He wants America back as a sovereign nation, with a balance of power, and no more insider cronyism and power-grabs brought about by the Feds.

[phildee3]

There are people on Alex's prison planet that still think Ron Paul is going to be president..deluded fools..

He ain't out yet!

[dantesrevival]

He ain't out yet!

lol just double lol

Jones states himself that the past elections have been rigged and they got away with it, so how is Ron Paul going to get elected when only a very small number of people will vote for him? And the elections are rigged?

Governments bad but Ron Paul is good.....
Elections are rigged but Ron Paul is your last hope....

Can't you smell the bolloxs?

[badtv]

Tarpley makes a good point about Ron Paul avoiding the 911 issue. that avoidance always gets my alarm bells ringing. ive seen it a few times with other people.

[rolf harris]

Entertaining Tarpley's notion that Ron Paul was just in it for Romney makes a whole lot of sense to me. As someone else said, the proof will be if Rand gets vice president.

[edelweiss pirate]

I like Tarpley. Saw him talk in London. Genuinely informative.

Ultimately Ron Paul is a politician and a freemason.


I leave you to draw your own conclusions.

[parenthesis]

And Tarpley's solution is?

And those of Tarpley's political fantasies are offering who?

And those who think there is no reason to be involved in politics plan to change things by?

And Ron Paul is in it because of Romney.....and has been for the last 3 elections because?

If you think continuing the status quo is better than stopping the wars, ending the fed and the cronyism, then by all means, hate on Paul. If you have nothing better to offer, kindly shut up. It's the noble thing to do.

[edelweiss pirate]

If you think continuing the status quo is better than stopping the wars, ending the fed and the cronyism, then by all means, hate on Paul. If you have nothing better to offer, kindly shut up. It's the noble thing to do.

He's a freemason isn't he?

What guarantees do you have that if he got a whiff a power he wouldn't sell you all out?

Genuine question.

[danster82]

Maybe the Bilderbergers have just finished drawing out the inverted pentagram made their first sacrifice and have the dark priests send the curse into those protesting them to cause infighting.

[parenthesis]

He's a freemason isn't he?

What guarantees do you have that if he got a whiff a power he wouldn't sell you all out?

Genuine question.

I don't believe that all freemasons are evil, or even most of them. The point is, we know exactly what we will get with the others, so taking a chance that Paul means what he's said for the past 3 decades might be worth a chance. Then, if he screws us over, I guess we would all join in the club of throwing our hands and the air and surrendering.

[edelweiss pirate]

I don't believe that all freemasons are evil, or even most of them.

No freemason on earth is a free agent.

He is making promises that he will never be able to deliver in a million years.

Freemasons are controlled by their lodge and their brothers and they work toward a set agenda.

The fact that he so freely gives out masonic handshakes shows that he is still an active freemason.


I wonder what the point of Ron Paul is.

Probably to trick Americans into believing the political process offers them any kind of alternative and is worth their money and attention.

[eurofighter]

Even though I like AJ's shows, especially his "rabble" speaches, (imagine if AJ visited the UK today lol :D), I don't understand why he ALWAYS FALL OUT with people.

He used to criticize David Icke before, fell out with Peter Joseph and Jeff Rense. Interesting to note that Henry Makow calls Rense and Alex Jones false op.

Anyway, We will probably still hear tarpley on press tv and Russia today. For the sake of the truth movement, hopefully him and Alex get back to good terms soon.

[rolf harris]

If you think continuing the status quo is better than stopping the wars, ending the fed and the cronyism, then by all means, hate on Paul. If you have nothing better to offer, kindly shut up. It's the noble thing to do.

I'd like it if he would get elected just to see exactly what he would do but he is an old man and I don't see him running for office again. Perhaps you should step back into the real world and out of fantasy land thinking Ron Paul even had a chance to become a candidate, it's not noble but reality sucks huh.

[majestic1]

You guys know that argument was from 2011 right ?

Tarpley and AJ are pals again, he is a regular on the show,
AJ just interviewed him yesterday at the Bilderberg protests.

[eurofighter]

You guys know that argument was from 2011 right ?

Tarpley and AJ are pals again, he is a regular on the show,
AJ just interviewed him yesterday at the Bilderberg protests.

no it was from yesterday ;)

[isuncertain]

Webster Tarpley interviewed by Alex Jones @ OccupyBilderberg 2012 - YouTube

Is the above before or after the video in the OP?

Edit: This is the entire interview. I scanned to the end because I presumed that was where the spat would have occurred, when in fact its right at the beginning.

[bluegrazz]

Tarpley is 100% right (on this issue)

If you look at my post history you would see that I was a HUGE Ron Paul supporter and that I voted and helped to promote Rand Paul for Governor of KY... I woke up pretty quickly to Rands agenda (who won based on his fathers name )

The Pauls are controlled opposition. Period. And dangerous- Thats why Jones supports them so much.

EDIT: Here is an example of who should have won Governor if KY-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5moSy-Ooouk
Notice everything this gubernatorial candidate stands for- First thing he would do is ground the National Guard Helicopters- For those of you complaining about "drones" you have no idea what its like to have three helicopters hovering 15 feet over your property searching for Cannabis- Dont worry, Rand Paul immediately gave more money/power to the National Guard and increased helicopter patrols- He also placed undercover police all around KY to catch "Tobacco smugglers") authorized checkpoints on the roadways and random Police Stops and even Motel searches (Police converge on Motels and go room to room searching and doing "warrant checks")-

Along comes Rand Paul from seemingly nowhere (but with a father who was famous as a "freedom candidate and who also had some great ideals about freedom) who wins the KY Governorship... Less than 2 years later KY goes from being one of the freest States to a total Police State. I could list the reasons why but the Internet isnt big enough to contain all the data lol-

I will say I moved the Hell out of KY because of the Paul agenda-

Edit: Heres what you get with a Paul in office http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHV7kEAZOLw
Its not what they SAY- its what they DO. And if you folks think people are going to fight back- KY is one of the most heavily armed States in the Nation and nobody is doing anything - At all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Th6Mg_O4I

[stelios]

I believe Ron Paul is good.
Webster Tarpley makes some good points but you have to remember.
A presidential candidate who has been a twelve term congressman has to have made alliances and allies.
Ron Paul is 100% clean and i really hope he wins.
He has a good chance of winning a brokered convention.

[bluegrazz]

I believe Ron Paul is good.
Webster Tarpley makes some good points but you have to remember.
A presidential candidate who has been a twelve term congressman has to have made alliances and allies.
Ron Paul is 100% clean and i really hope he wins.
He has a good chance of winning a brokered convention.

Thats what was said about Rand as well (essentially) who came and beat out real freedom candidates ONLY because of his fathers name which gave him name recognition.

Rand also talked a very good game about freedom- Unfortunately he meant more freedom to the Police , National Guard and Corporations and at the detriment of citizens.

EDIT: Also notice how Jones and other "alternative news" makes HUGE NOISE about Rand Paul fighting TSA- Fighting the "Police State"- Google Rand Paul Police State and he will LOOK like a hero... But why no mention EVER about the policies he has brought to KY like Police Roadblocks stopping and searching every car , the National Guard and State Police Cannabis eradication , Motel Raids, etc, etc, etc... Never a word about THAT.

Only Heroic Rand Paul fighting the TSA Police State . Makes him LOOK like one of "us".

[stelios]

So who would you rather have?
O'Bummer?
Or Mittens?
Surely Ron Paul or Rand Paul are 100 times better than the alternatives.

[bluegrazz]

So who would you rather have?
O'Bummer?
Or Mittens?
Surely Ron Paul or Rand Paul are 100 times better than the alternatives.

Neither. Dont fall in that trap.

See, this is exactly what they did with Obama (to the Libs) and now they are doing it to "us".

Between Mittins and Obama- Hmmmmmm (tough one-) I choose not to Vote.

See, this was MY REASONING for supporting Paul for KY Governor. He talked a good deal about "my views", about "freedom" about the "Nanny State" , about "Big Government" and the "War on drugs".

There were better Candidates (Libertarian) but I felt they could not win and thus I supported (*and Campaigned for) Rand Paul... Look what we got.

-Less Freedom
-Bigger Nanny State
-Bigger Government (against the People) smaller Government (for Corporations)
-Increased War On Drugs to include Cigarettes.

We got check points for Gods sake-

So again- It isnt what they SAY. And it isnt a "who do you want, Obama, Mitt or Paul" as that is THE TRAP.

I will be voting a straight Libertarian ticket this year- Although I know its in Vain.

EDIT: I also disagree with a host of Libertarian views- But they are the only hope IMO. Paul is a trap.

[bluegrazz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsFM8nLssnk

Rand Paul crys about the TSA and their "illegal searches" and assholes like Jones give him a platform... Looks good.

Why no mention of this going on in Rands State?

This is FAR WORSE than the TSA.

Here is the "Roadblock registry"- Notice how many Kentucky roadblocks... At these roadblocks all passengers and driver are searched (along with their car) and asked for their PAPERS. http://www.roadblock.org/roadblocks/Kentucky/

Why does AJ support this guy? Why no stories about this? Why scream about the TSA (big deal, most people dont fly) when THIS is happening and Rand Paul is the reason.

[wakeup2nwo]

So who would you rather have?
O'Bummer?
Or Mittens?
Surely Ron Paul or Rand Paul are 100 times better than the alternatives.

Neither. Dont fall in that trap.

See, this is exactly what they did with Obama (to the Libs) and now they are doing it to "us".

Between Mittins and Obama- Hmmmmmm (tough one-) I choose not to Vote.

See, this was MY REASONING for supporting Paul for KY Governor. He talked a good deal about "my views", about "freedom" about the "Nanny State" , about "Big Government" and the "War on drugs".

There were better Candidates (Libertarian) but I felt they could not win and thus I supported (*and Campaigned for) Rand Paul... Look what we got.

-Less Freedom
-Bigger Nanny State
-Bigger Government (against the People) smaller Government (for Corporations)
-Increased War On Drugs to include Cigarettes.

We got check points for Gods sake-

So again- It isnt what they SAY. And it isnt a "who do you want, Obama, Mitt or Paul" as that is THE TRAP.

I will be voting a straight Libertarian ticket this year- Although I know its in Vain.

EDIT: I also disagree with a host of Libertarian views- But they are the only hope IMO. Paul is a trap.

How about you don't vote at all? done encourage them. ;)

[bluegrazz]

How about you don't vote at all? done encourage them. ;)

Right- I pretty much agree.

However LOCAL POLITICS are still (for the most part) the only way to have any power- I stand by my local reps... The City Council may not have a ton of power, they may be corrupt but they CAN enact laws to make your life better.

I could give examples but I wont because my Local Reps suck right now lol- Trying to change that. :D

[pippin]

apparently some 'source' at the bilderberg conference let it slip that they were planning to 'get rid' of Ron Paul. How true that is, I dont know. So he's either a big threat to them, or a freemason thats done the dirty on the rest of them.

[pippin]

apparently some 'source' at the bilderberg conference let it slip that they were planning to 'get rid' of Ron Paul. How true that is, I dont know. So he's either a big threat to them, or a freemason thats done the dirty on the rest of them.

found the video

Bilderberg Group Members Discuss Killing Ron Paul (Infowars) - YouTube

[noncooperation]

Well one of them are wrong. Jones acts like a muppet whether hes right or wrong. tarpley stays on topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhRgMvjII3s#!

I think Jones is drunk

[bluegrazz]

found the video

Bilderberg Group Members Discuss Killing Ron Paul (Infowars) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6PAMSkdmUI&feature=g-all-u)

The Illuminati. Rulers of the World. Bringers of Chaos. Controlers of Laws. Printers of Money.

Yes folks, they own Governments, Police and media- But they have not yet put a tap or tail on Jim Tucker to find his ultra secret sources he has been publicly talking about for years.

But trust Infowars, Alex Jones, Jim Tucker , Gerald Celente and the rest when they tell you who you should support and who is the "Freedom Candidate". And I thought Faux newsheads were uninformed Zombies.

-But Damn AJ's production values are getting slick.

[badtv]

jones trying to make tarpley look dumb

Ron Paul = Evil Leprechaun - YouTube

[nude world order]

I think Jones is drunk

I actually thought that at first listen. Then I thought he was maybe just pissed that someone was saying he was wrong.

But I think he actually is genuinely scared that Ron paul is getting exposed.

I always thought jones was just a businessman but listening to this he may really be cointelpro.

[bluegrazz]

i actually thought that at first listen. Then i thought he was maybe just pissed that someone was saying he was wrong.

But i think he actually is genuinely scared that ron paul is getting exposed.

I always thought jones was just a businessman but listening to this he may really be cointelpro.

bingo.

[parenthesis]

You all like throwing stones but offer nothing.

Rand Paul is not Ron, everyone knows he is more of your typical republican and cuddles with establishment types. I'm also sure that any increase in police state in Kentucky has to do with illegals in the state.

Ron's not going to win, so you win.

Tarpley is evidently a Keynesian economist since he doesn't believe in a "gold standard" and instead believes that currency should be backed by nothing but a gov'ts promises. Nothing has given more power to the gov't and their monopoly men partners than Keynesian economics.

Tarpley is "controlled opposition"

[bluegrazz]

You all like throwing stones but offer nothing.

Rand Paul is not Ron, everyone knows he is more of your typical republican and cuddles with establishment types. I'm also sure that any increase in police state in Kentucky has to do with illegals in the state.

Ron's not going to win, so you win.

Tarpley is evidently a Keynesian economist since he doesn't believe in a "gold standard" and instead believes that currency should be backed by nothing but a gov'ts promises. Nothing has given more power to the gov't and their monopoly men partners than Keynesian economics.

Tarpley is "controlled opposition"

You make several points which I fully agree with. And several I do not.

The loss of Freedom in KY has very little to do with Illegals and tons to do with tobacco smuggling and Cannabis. It has to also do with more control and rights for corporations and loss of Freedom to people. It meant higher taxes to people , excise taxes raised, services cut- And a tax break for business with promotion of "trickle down" theory.

Tarpley is a shill- That still does not make him wrong here.

Ron Paul will not win- But that doesnt mean "I win."

My point is- Alex Jones is supporting the Pauls for a reason. Alex Jones is making Rand Pauls name synonymous with "Freedom" (the TSA "opportunity") while ignoring the Kentucky checkpoints that affects everyone who drives-

There is a reason for this-

[digitalgain]

There are people on Alex's prison planet that still think Ron Paul is going to be president..deluded fools..

Agreed, It will be Romney, then the US will be all like "change we can believe in"

Oh wait, Obama has already used that slogan

"A better America" that will do nicely, the Sheep will lap it up like delusional fools thinking things will change.

[ritchs]

Good ol Tarpley, the pie-in-the-sky commie. Maybe one day his beloved controllers will actually succeed in working for the people. The world is still waiting for a case where that happens. I like how he talks as if Ron Paul is an anarchist in the Kokesh interview. And he focuses on the one guy at Bilderbergers who gave money to Ron Paul.

If Ron Paul would really be such a blessing to corporate feudalism, then I wonder why they are all giving money to the international socialists?

Sorry Tarpley, Paul is not an anarchist, he's a constitutionalist who wants nothing to do with the IMF, World Bank, or being the global police force. He wants America back as a sovereign nation, with a balance of power, and no more insider cronyism and power-grabs brought about by the Feds.

I tend to believe this rather than Ron Paul being controlled opposition. However, that IS possible since we've been had so many times before. We are almost nihilistic , so cynical of the establishment that anyone being able to even Run for POTUS must be part of the cabal. I still want to believe Ron Paul is the real deal. And I would like to add this personal tidbit. My long deceased dad was a 32° Scottish Rite Freemason and was a very moral man and believed in unions, the brotherhood of man, and a lot of other good things. He was definitely not a Satanist and I know a lot of people think that once you hit the 32° mark, you are in the inside. Sorry not true imo. There are many levels after that supposedly and Papa Bush is one of the highest, said to be 43°, but that is very deep inside and at the top of the pyramid, and he answers to his "aboves" This is a very deep rabbit hole. I do like Tarpley and any ideology is going to work well if everyone is fair and honest and there are no elites. But that is not ever going to happen, at least, not anytime soon, we have a lot more evolution to do.

And even if Ron Paul became POTUS, he would have to work with a lot of hardcore crooks in the Congress and Senate, I'm not sure if he could get anything done if he managed to get elected. It would be like "Mr Rogers" presiding over Ali Baba and the forty thieves

[stelios]

Romney can not win.
Look the Jews control O'Bummer and they are not likely to let their boy lose.
Mittens is a Mormon and there has never been nor will there ever be a Mormon president.
The Church of the Latter Day Saints is not so easy to control for the Zionists.
Although they have twisted many of the evangelical churches in america the Jews dont yet control the Mormons.

The real choice is more war with O'Bummer and more taxes and more authoritarianism, or Ron Paul who will abolish the CIA and DHS.
Paul will cut taxes and make the USA boom again.

[mikey mikey]

The Church of the Latter Day Saints is not so easy to control for the Zionists.
Although they have twisted many of the evangelical churches in america the Jews dont yet control the Mormons.

Romney is better candidate for Israel
Jerusalem Post
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=272579

Romney Widens Lead; Obama Worried about Jewish Vote
Israel National Newshttp://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/156480

January 2012 Republican debate, Romney said, "Well, the reason that there’s not peace between the Palestinians and Israel is because there is — in the leadership of the Palestinian people are Hamas and others who think like Hamas, who have as their intent the elimination of Israel. And whether it’s in school books that teach how to kill Jews, or whether it’s in the political discourse that is spoken either from Fatah or from Hamas, there is a belief that the Jewish people do not have a right to have a Jewish state." Romney added, "There are some people who say should we have a two state solution, and the Israelis would be happy to have a two state solution. It's the Palestinians who don't want a two state solution, they want to eliminate the state of Israel. And I believe America must say the best way to have peace in the Middle East is not for us to vacillate and appease, but it is to say we stand with our friend Israel. We are committed to a Jewish state in Israel. We will not have an inch of difference between ourselves and our ally Israel."

You were saying?

[phildee3]

The Church of the Latter Day Saints is not so easy to control for the Zionists.
Although they have twisted many of the evangelical churches in america the Jews dont yet control the Mormons.



The Zionists didn't need to twist the evangelical churches. They were twisted at their inception, being a Zionist creation.

Also, it's about time you learned the difference between Zionism and Judaism! :rolleyes:

[eurofighter]

some of the comments on the Webster Tarpley leprechaun video are hilarous. For example:

I disliked it because Tarpley is one of the 5th column scum bags ruining the nation for the status quo.

to which someone replied with:

Just like Alex Jones then, lol.

Even though I hate truth movement infighting, this is funny :D

[knightofthegrail]

What on this is so difficult to grasp; Paul is pro global free-trade, his teachers are Von Hayek and Mises...who are the force behind much of Thatcherism, and is pro decriminalisation of prostitution (amongst other things). That Jones is unwilling to see this speaks volumes about him.

[vancity eagle]

webster tarpley is awsome, one of the best political analysts out there. Very smart man, that fight between the two was hilarious. Jones worships Ron Paul far too much, as do many of his listeners. I dont believe the ron paul hype for one second.

[stelios]

Jerusalem Post
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=272579

Israel National Newshttp://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/156480

You were saying?
Do you disagree with the fact that O'Bummer is the Zionist choice?

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/obama7.jpg

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/156418#.T81GntWXR2Y

Poll: Jewish Voters Still Favor Obama Over Romney
New poll finds that Obama out-polls Romney by 59 percent to 27 percent among Jewish voters.

[stelios]

The Zionists didn't need to twist the evangelical churches. They were twisted at their inception, being a Zionist creation.

Very true.
I have been saying the exact same thing myself and i am glad we are in agreement.

[ritchs]

Romney can not win.
Look the Jews control O'Bummer and they are not likely to let their boy lose.
Mittens is a Mormon and there has never been nor will there ever be a Mormon president.
The Church of the Latter Day Saints is not so easy to control for the Zionists.
Although they have twisted many of the evangelical churches in america the Jews dont yet control the Mormons.

The real choice is more war with O'Bummer and more taxes and more authoritarianism, or Ron Paul who will abolish the CIA and DHS.
Paul will cut taxes and make the USA boom again.

I hear you loud, but I'm leaning toward what mikey mikey was saying. Mittens is just another useful fool. And from what I have read from one end of the internet to the other, the LDS inner circle is highly satanic, some of their rituals are unbelievable. Also on the face it, the public face they put forward, they have beliefs that most people would have trouble getting their head around. They might seem like a rogue branch of christianity.

Obummer is a very obedient puppet, they might use him a bit further. If the usa disintegrates economically, they will make him emperor (but controlled on strings).

There are so many things to think about. Right now I have Igor Panarin on my mind, who predicted the collapse of the USSR, and he is all in on the usa breaking up into regions. It is conceivable. They might even engineer that to polarize and divide and conquer, then later on consolidate their power, and 'bingo', the Amero. Maybe Ron Paul and states rights will be their guy, I don't know. We play checkers, those fuckers play three dimensional chess like Spock, they have think tanks working on this stuff 24/7 with people with 140+ iq's

The Igor Panarin thing is a wild card for sure and just because its now 2012, doesn't mean its not happening at a slightly later date. The reason I mention Panarin, because of Ron Paul's take back the country stance, restore America and the Constitution, states rights rhetoric and that it could play into this following drama. I don't think we can over-analyze this, we are in dangerous waters

"Be ye wise as serpents" Matthew 10:16 is good advice


Igor Panarin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the summer of 1998, based on Classified information , data about the state of the United States economy and supplied to him by fellow analysts at the Federal Agency of Government Communications and Information (FAPSI ), Panarin forecast the probable disintegration of the USA into six parts in 2010 (at the end of June – start of July 2010, as he specified on 10 December 2008),[35] following a civil war triggered by mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation. He forecast financial and demographic changes provoking a political crisis in which wealthier states will withhold funds from the Federal government of the United States , effectively Secession - from the Union, leading to social unrest, civil war, national division, and intervention of foreign powers.[5] Panarin sees the task of the world elite as not letting the USA follow the Yugoslav Wars model of disintegration; it is desirable that it follows the Dissolution of Czechoslovakia - model of disintegration so that everything goes calmly and peacefully.[36] In an interview with the The Wall Street Journal - in 2008, Panarin said: "There's a 55-45% chance right now that disintegration will occur...One could rejoice in that process...But if we're talking reasonably, it's not the best scenario -- for Russia." Though Russia would become more powerful on the global stage, he says, its economy would suffer because it currently depends heavily on the dollar and on trade with the U.S."[37]
This hypothesis gained world attention a decade after its initial announcement due to the 2007–2012 global financial crisis and has been widely criticized since.[38][39] This thesis gained invalidity after 2010, as the United States has remained intact.

[digitalgain]

I hear you loud, but I'm leaning toward what mikey mikey was saying. Mittens is just another useful fool. And from what I have read from one end of the internet to the other, the LDS inner circle is highly satanic, some of their rituals are unbelievable. Also on the face it, the public face they put forward, they have beliefs that most people would have trouble getting their head around. They might seem like a rogue branch of christianity.

Obummer is a very obedient puppet, they might use him a bit further. If the usa disintegrates economically, they will make him emperor (but controlled on strings).

There are so many things to think about. Right now I have Igor Panarin on my mind, who predicted the collapse of the USSR, and he is all in on the usa breaking up into regions. It is conceivable. They might even engineer that to polarize and divide and conquer, then later on consolidate their power, and 'bingo', the Amero. Maybe Ron Paul and states rights will be their guy, I don't know. We play checkers, those fuckers play three dimensional chess like Spock, they have think tanks working on this stuff 24/7 with people with 140+ iq's

The Igor Panarin thing is a wild card for sure and just because its now 2012, doesn't mean its not happening at a slightly later date. The reason I mention Panarin, because of Ron Paul's take back the country stance, restore America and the Constitution, states rights rhetoric and that it could play into this following drama. I don't think we can over-analyze this, we are in dangerous waters

"Be ye wise as serpents" Matthew 10:16 is good advice


Igor Panarin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Panarin)

In the summer of 1998, based on Classified information , data about the state of the United States economy and supplied to him by fellow analysts at the Federal Agency of Government Communications and Information (FAPSI ), Panarin forecast the probable disintegration of the USA into six parts in 2010 (at the end of June – start of July 2010, as he specified on 10 December 2008),[35] following a civil war triggered by mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation. He forecast financial and demographic changes provoking a political crisis in which wealthier states will withhold funds from the Federal government of the United States , effectively Secession - from the Union, leading to social unrest, civil war, national division, and intervention of foreign powers.[5] Panarin sees the task of the world elite as not letting the USA follow the Yugoslav Wars model of disintegration; it is desirable that it follows the Dissolution of Czechoslovakia - model of disintegration so that everything goes calmly and peacefully.[36] In an interview with the The Wall Street Journal - in 2008, Panarin said: "There's a 55-45% chance right now that disintegration will occur...One could rejoice in that process...But if we're talking reasonably, it's not the best scenario -- for Russia." Though Russia would become more powerful on the global stage, he says, its economy would suffer because it currently depends heavily on the dollar and on trade with the U.S."[37]
This hypothesis gained world attention a decade after its initial announcement due to the 2007–2012 global financial crisis and has been widely criticized since.[38][39] This thesis gained invalidity after 2010, as the United States has remained intact.

Good points ! And i actually now think you are right and it will not be Romney like i originally said.

Tony Blair was such a good puppet he was rewarded with 3 terms in the UK (concurrent) (well 10 Years before Brown replaced him)

[zen_anarchy]

The LaRouche movement vs The Council for National Policy argue for control of the mass uprising and truther movement ;)


Rand Paul is a dangerous person tarpley is right on that

Rand shares none of his fathers views on issues that give Ron Paul such support in the patriot community

even though a lot of information points the blame right at Israels door for 9/11 tarpley totally ignores the Israeli connection and blames the U.S government for orchestrating 9/11

Alex seems to have been intellectually outclassed in the interview

[mushroomhead]

ron paul and alex jones hijack every protest march or gathering in the name of patriotism nationalism anti globalism .

question in poll is all wrong imo .

[ritchs]

I like Tarpley. Saw him talk in London. Genuinely informative.

Ultimately Ron Paul is a politician and a freemason.


I leave you to draw your own conclusions.

All freemasons are not illuminati. This I know for an absolute fact. My dad as a 32° Scottish rite freemason and was a very moral person, not some satanist. Freemasons are mostly decent folks, its only the people at the top that are evil. They, the rank and file, would be horrified if they knew their organization has been hijacked. Just like the people controlling the usa, they are invisible to the masses, there names will not likely appear on any bilderberg list either. They are the apex

[aheroicstand]

Along comes Rand Paul from seemingly nowhere (but with a father who was famous as a "freedom candidate and who also had some great ideals about freedom) who wins the KY Governorship... Less than 2 years later KY goes from being one of the freest States to a total Police State. I could list the reasons why but the Internet isnt big enough to contain all the data lol-


Well if you think Rand's the governor of Kentucky I could see why you would pin the blame on him for that. But Rand Paul is not the governor of Kentucky. He is a Senator, which means he represents the state of Kentucky at the federal level.

Rand appears to be closer to the typical republican than his father, and I'm concerned about some of the rhetoric he uses when it comes to foreign policy, but I'd still roll the dice and vote for him come 2016 if he chooses to run. I'd much prefer his father, but I'd take either over whatever socialist Tarpley would prefer we vote for.

[tinyint]

I found time to listen to the "interview" response with Tarpley.

All I have to say, what a rotten "good cop, bad cop" show for the gullible.

How Tarpley can call himself historian anymore after these statements is beyond me.
His constant attempts to associate Syria warmongering what happened in Poland prior to WWII is humbly said exposing him as a Soros kind of shill.
I spare myself a comment on AJ. :rolleyes:

[edelweiss pirate]

All freemasons are not illuminati. This I know for an absolute fact. My dad as a 32° Scottish rite freemason and was a very moral person, not some satanist. Freemasons are mostly decent folks, its only the people at the top that are evil. They, the rank and file, would be horrified if they knew their organization has been hijacked. Just like the people controlling the usa, they are invisible to the masses, there names will not likely appear on any bilderberg list either. They are the apex

That's just not true. The lower levels of freemasonry follow an agenda set by the evil higher tiers.

This makes the lower levels of freemasonry at least complicit.

Without these foot-soldiers carrying out their little assignments our enslavement and degradation would be impossible.


Also be aware that freemasons have two characters. They have a good side, which is their public image, and they seem respectable and helpful people, they also have their dark side, this is the side you do not know about it and can range from anything to a fraud, violence or child abuse.

Freemasons believe that if they do a good deed, then this entitles them to carry out bad deeds too. They believe they can thus balance their karma.

[aheroicstand]

I've yet to see any proof Paul's a freemason. I don't consider a couple of handshakes proof, especially when I haven't seen it proven that those are freemasonic handshakes. Just because you call it a freemasonic handshake doesn't make it so.

[rockfeat]

Tarpley just makes too much sense. Someone has to be pragmatic!

[ritchs]

That's just not true. The lower levels of freemasonry follow an agenda set by the evil higher tiers.

This makes the lower levels of freemasonry at least complicit.

Without these foot-soldiers carrying out their little assignments our enslavement and degradation would be impossible.


Also be aware that freemasons have two characters. They have a good side, which is their public image, and they seem respectable and helpful people, they also have their dark side, this is the side you do not know about it and can range from anything to a fraud, violence or child abuse.

Freemasons believe that if they do a good deed, then this entitles them to carry out bad deeds too. They believe they can thus balance their karma.

I don't agree.

Most Freemasons I've met are good people, they have joined an exclusive club with secret words and handshakes are almost adolescent in their secret club mindset. The rank and file blindly carry out the orders from above not knowing the implications in a one for all, all for one stupidity. Many have joined to broaden thier business contacts in the same way that people join the Lions Club or Rotary Club. DI has spoken and written about this, that the outer circle has no concept whatsoever of how nefarious the innermost levels are. Same with the Mormons, they don't have a clue as to the satanic nature of how rotten the core of the apple is, like a body that looks healthy, but has a cancer within.

The outer ranks are useful fools to the people in the know inside the power structure at the top. They are held together with promotions and political favors, so they are corrupt in that sense, just greedy folks who seek an edge over other people by belonging.

This is true of most power structures. In the ww2, the German high command ordered atrocities and were able to provide justification that was viewed as harsh but 'fair' to their minions. This whole subject is a complex one, and has been discussed endlessly in the forums in terms of psychopathy, cognitive dissonance, plain greed, and short sightedness. Consider how many people have turned other people in to the 'authorities' and you can get a real picture of how barbaric the average person can be to their fellow man for the most trivial reasons, much less following an long term agenda

I as constantly amazed how cheaply people sell themselves for a few coins like Judas, some ribbons on their uniforms, seeking an additional feather in their bonnets for status. All for naught, in the end they will die and be long forgotten

But you're absolutely right, they are (unknowingly) complicit. They have been had

[zarah]

Ron Paul, as far as I can see, is controlled opposition as is Alex Jones.

Have a read of this if anyone can be bothered..

http://libertyrevival.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/alex-jones-new-world-order-agenda/

http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/ron-pauls-austerity-plan-exposed-as.html


As for Webster Tarpley, I've read his books and his articles and always found him truthful and open but then again, I've also read that his wife works for some Washington company who act as agents for BAE, so I dunno..I spose we learn not to trust anyone but ourselves in the end.

[tinyint]

Ron Paul, as far as I can see, is controlled opposition as is Alex Jones.

Have a read of this if anyone can be bothered..

http://libertyrevival.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/alex-jones-new-world-order-agenda/

http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/ron-pauls-austerity-plan-exposed-as.html


As for Webster Tarpley, I've read his books and his articles and always found him truthful and open but then again, I've also read that his wife works for some Washington company who act as agents for BAE, so I dunno..I spose we learn not to trust anyone but ourselves in the end.

... as Tarpley. he serves as the trustful researched guy.
He plays some levels above AJ in terms of the art of disinfo.

Is it just me as a non english speaking european, or somebody else thinks jones closely resembles the classic stereotype of a dumb, loud, bad mannered american cowboy? (Probably a question for the europeans or non US people)

[zarah]

... as Tarpley. he serves as the trustful researched guy.
He plays some levels above AJ in terms of the art of disinfo.

So Tarpley's disinfo, too? How do you know? I'm not being brash or anything, I'm genuinely interested.



Is it just me as a non english speaking european, or somebody else thinks jones closely resembles the classic stereotype of a dumb, loud, bad mannered american cowboy? (Probably a question for the europeans or non US people)

I think he comes across as exactly that. He's very loud, arrogant and doesn't understand that a conversation entails turn taking.

[tinyint]

So Tarpley's disinfo, too? How do you know? I'm not being brash or anything, I'm genuinely interested.


He gate keeps WWII and make the desired associations leading people to think what they are supposed and expected to think. Its programming.

It is simply a lie and manipulation to compare the events prior to WWII in Germany(brazenly called Poland nowadays) with the western sponsored Syria terrorism.
Actually, the same warmongers attacked Germany by the same scheme they attacked all the countries since after WWII and plan to attck in the near future.
Its the grand plan of Eretz Israel.


I think he comes across as exactly that. He's very loud, arrogant and doesn't understand that a conversation entails turn taking.

Phew, I am not alone with this. :D

[zarah]

He gate keeps WWII and make the desired associations leading people to think what they are supposed and expected to think. Its programming.

It is simply a lie and manipulation to compare the events prior to WWII in Germany(brazenly called Poland nowadays) with the western sponsored Syria terrorism.
Actually, the same warmongers attacked Germany by the same scheme they attacked all the countries since after WWII and plan to attck in the near future.
Its the grand plan of Eretz Israel.



When you have some time would you please be able to send me some links to some research stuff? I know, I know I'm being lazy but you seem to know what you're talking about and if I google the substance of what you're saying I'll have to trawl through pages and pages of crap.

[tinyint]

Pmed

You won't find that on google easily. ;)

[ritchs]

If Ron Paul, Webster Tarpley and AJ, Nigel Farage, Kerry Cassidy (Camelot) David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford, Sorcha Faal, Rense, Gerald Celente and many, many others are disinfo (as many in these forums are saying !), who the fuck can we look to for answers? This is way too big for the average schmoo on the street to figure out, working like a dog to just make ends meet and survive, without time to research all this, we are toast then.

If the conspiracy is this deep, we are truly hopelessly fucked, we might as well buy knee pads, just bend over and give them a jar of vaseline and learn to enjoy it :rolleyes:
Lets buy advance tickets first class to Camp Fema

[vancity eagle]

If Ron Paul, Webster Tarpley and AJ, Nigel Farage, Kerry Cassidy (Camelot) David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford, Sorcha Faal, Rense, Gerald Celente and many, many others are disinfo (as many in these forums are saying !), who the fuck can we look to for answers? This is way too big for the average schmoo on the street to figure out, working like a dog to just make ends meet and survive, without time to research all this, we are toast then.

If the conspiracy is this deep, we are truly hopelessly fucked, we might as well buy knee pads, just bend over and give them a jar of vaseline and learn to enjoy it :rolleyes:
Lets buy advance tickets first class to Camp Fema

I dont think EVERYBODY is necessarily disinfo, I think many people are spreading disinfo ignorantly as there is just so much info out there, and ultimately all info comes from a source which could be corrupted.

With regards to Tarpley and his WW2 disinfo according to tinyint, all I have to say is that WW2 happened a long time ago, and information wasn't as readily available back then as it is today, so I would think whatever the truth of WW2 is, many people would be off in their understanding, not necessarily intentionally. It is much easier to spot deception today than 60 plus years ago.

[ritchs]

I dont think EVERYBODY is necessarily disinfo, I think many people are spreading disinfo ignorantly as there is just so much info out there, and ultimately all info comes from a source which could be corrupted.

With regards to Tarpley and his WW2 disinfo according to tinyint, all I have to say is that WW2 happened a long time ago, and information wasn't as readily available back then as it is today, so I would think whatever the truth of WW2 is, many people would be off in their understanding, not necessarily intentionally. It is much easier to spot deception today than 60 plus years ago.

That's what I like about these forums. With so many people viewing the threads and their bullshit detectors fully on, they quickly spot things collectively that we would have trouble doing in small discussion groups.

[pootur]

Are Alex Jones, Ron Paul and many others controlled opposition? No, they are not! I think most people here expect some kind of a Messiah to come down from heaven, who is absolutely perfect and knows absolutely everything and is going to save the whole planet, so we could all hold hands and live happily ever after.

The fact is that nobody is perfect and certainly Alex Jones doesn`t know about certain things and he is very loud and gets angry many times. But he is doing the best that he can and he is doing a great job. I am sure that many people from this forum could do a better job, but none of you are doing much of anything, except argue about little details that don`t matter.

I believe it would be much more effective if 1 million people, who know the basics about the Illuminati and all the plans that they have, take action, rather than a few hundred people, who know practically everything. Why would the Illuminati want to create controlled opposition like Alex Jones and Ron Paul? What is the purpose? Lets say that they indeed are controlled opposition and lets say Alex Jones is deceiving people about many issues on purpose. That might be a huge problem for many of you here, but since Alex Jones is also talking about things that are true like the Federal Reserve, Bilderberg group, Agenda 21, False Flag terror, then why would the Elite want millions of people know about these stuff? That would make no sense.

The way I see it - nobody is perfect. And certainly Alex Jones is not going to save the world. It is like saying that all 5-th graders and total idiots, because they don`t know about some of the things that you know. Certainly some members know more about certain stuff than Alex Jones and don`t agree with him or other people, but that doesn`t mean they are controlled opposition. I think most of you people should get out more, enjoy the nature, be with your family more and do other important things in life, instead of arguing about every little detail. I am sure that if some other person from this forum would be in the place of Alex Jones, then he or she would also be picked apart by "experts" in this forum and be called "controlled opposition." The so called Elite are pathetic people, who couldn`t tie their own show laces correctly, but they are somewhat effective, because the large portion of folks can`t even do that much.

[ritchs]

Are Alex Jones, Ron Paul and many others controlled opposition? No, they are not! I think most people here expect some kind of a Messiah to come down from heaven, who is absolutely perfect and knows absolutely everything and is going to save the whole planet, so we could all hold hands and live happily ever after.

The fact is that nobody is perfect and certainly Alex Jones doesn`t know about certain things and he is very loud and gets angry many times. But he is doing the best that he can and he is doing a great job. I am sure that many people from this forum could do a better job, but none of you are doing much of anything, except argue about little details that don`t matter.

I believe it would be much more effective if 1 million people, who know the basics about the Illuminati and all the plans that they have, take action, rather than a few hundred people, who know practically everything. Why would the Illuminati want to create controlled opposition like Alex Jones and Ron Paul? What is the purpose? Lets say that they indeed are controlled opposition and lets say Alex Jones is deceiving people about many issues on purpose. That might be a huge problem for many of you here, but since Alex Jones is also talking about things that are true like the Federal Reserve, Bilderberg group, Agenda 21, False Flag terror, then why would the Elite want millions of people know about these stuff? That would make no sense.

The way I see it - nobody is perfect. And certainly Alex Jones is not going to save the world. It is like saying that all 5-th graders and total idiots, because they don`t know about some of the things that you know. Certainly some members know more about certain stuff than Alex Jones and don`t agree with him or other people, but that doesn`t mean they are controlled opposition. I think most of you people should get out more, enjoy the nature, be with your family more and do other important things in life, instead of arguing about every little detail. I am sure that if some other person from this forum would be in the place of Alex Jones, then he or she would also be picked apart by "experts" in this forum and be called "controlled opposition." The so called Elite are pathetic people, who couldn`t tie their own show laces correctly, but they are somewhat effective, because the large portion of folks can`t even do that much.

A sensible post!

[edelweiss pirate]

DI has spoken and written about this, that the outer circle has no concept whatsoever of how nefarious the innermost levels are. Same with the Mormons, they don't have a clue as to the satanic nature of how rotten the core of the apple is, like a body that looks healthy, but has a cancer within.


So you don't think they get a clue when they take oaths that involving getting their throats cuts or their bowels torn out?

People join freemasonry for selfish reasons. As they progress through the ranks it slowly dawns on them what they are involved in.

But who can they tell?

Noone because of the oaths they have sworn.

I know masons. Some are crooks, some are evil, most are selfish hypocrites dressing up their own self-serving under the mask of 'charity'.

[tinyint]

I dont think EVERYBODY is necessarily disinfo, I think many people are spreading disinfo ignorantly as there is just so much info out there, and ultimately all info comes from a source which could be corrupted.

With regards to Tarpley and his WW2 disinfo according to tinyint, all I have to say is that WW2 happened a long time ago, and information wasn't as readily available back then as it is today, so I would think whatever the truth of WW2 is, many people would be off in their understanding, not necessarily intentionally. It is much easier to spot deception today than 60 plus years ago.

My point is, WWII is a litmus test for anybody calling himself historian.
He should know the real truth as a historian, he definitely came across it long ago.
So the question is, why do people almost 70 years after the war still spread imperial propaganda, while condemning the empire in Syria and equaling them with their 70 year old cult status enemies?

Tarpley tells the truth about Syria, but he intentionally associates US/UK/NATO actions with "nazi" BS.
This is a blatant lie, I can prove it. It is highly cynical and despicable to compare the massacre of Bromberg against Germans and the polish atorcities in their camps with Syria.
The NSDAP exactly warned of these bastards in London and NY/Washington.

The only "nazis" are the UK/US/Israel. Ever have been, and long before Hitler.


Cui bono?

Commonly the phrase is used to suggest that the person or people guilty of committing a crime may be found among those who have something to gain, chiefly with an eye toward financial gain. The party that benefits may not always be obvious or may have successfully diverted attention to a scapegoat, for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono

[noncooperation]

If Ron Paul, Webster Tarpley and AJ, Nigel Farage, Kerry Cassidy (Camelot) David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford, Sorcha Faal, Rense, Gerald Celente and many, many others are disinfo (as many in these forums are saying !), who the fuck can we look to for answers? This is way too big for the average schmoo on the street to figure out, working like a dog to just make ends meet and survive, without time to research all this, we are toast then.

If the conspiracy is this deep, we are truly hopelessly fucked, we might as well buy knee pads, just bend over and give them a jar of vaseline and learn to enjoy it :rolleyes:
Lets buy advance tickets first class to Camp Fema
Fuck, you are right! Got the vas but where did i put those knee pads?

I don't believe any of them are controlled opposition - people that say this are just psycho fear types.

[edelweiss pirate]

Fuck, you are right! Got the vas but where did i put those knee pads?

I don't believe any of them are controlled opposition - people that say this are just psycho fear types.



Lol, there's the guy who still believes in such a thing as an honest politician!

I've got some sea-front property in Switzerland if you want to invest some money.

[wakeup2nwo]

Rand Paul before endorsing Romney on Bilderberg and Goldman Sachs - YouTube

Published on Jun 8, 2012 by wearechange (http://www.youtube.com/user/wearechange)
This is a never before seen interview of Rand Paul in 2010 on the campaign trail right before becoming U.S Senator. It's pretty amazing seeing Rand Paul make such statements against the Bilderberg Group and Goldman Sachs but yet still endorse a Goldman Sachs flip flopping Bilderberg puppet.

[wakeup2nwo]

It seems Tarpley was right and jones now has no choice than to see it..

Ron Paul, Don't Destroy Yourself - YouTube

[druggalo]

iznt it fishy how tarpley iz on one day while alex makes a big stink over em talkin bout ron then tha next dey he flippin himself ova rand

[druggalo]

'every billionaire' has satanic alliences

[eurofighter]

The only "nazis" are the UK/US/Israel. Ever have been, and long before Hitler.

Cui bono?

I think you look into the "Nazi" thing too much. Jones and Tarpley have stated many times that Hitler was an agent of the British, who was doing their bidding during WW2 and that the same Globalist empire today created Nazism as a front for their operations back in the 1930s

[eurofighter]

Alex Jones is not a dis-info agent, he can just be quite aggressive when interviewing people at times.

[andre1984]

Jones is apparently going to have him on and apologize. Which will be the first time Jones ever apologized to anyone ever.

[wakeup2nwo]

Callers React to Rand Paul's Endorsement of Flip-Flopper Romney - YouTube

[rodin]

Alex Jones is not a dis-info agent, he can just be quite aggressive when interviewing people at times.

Jones AND Tarpley are disinfo

IMHO

[andre1984]

The Rand Paul Deception with Webster Tarpley - YouTube

[wakeup2nwo]

The Rand Paul Deception with Webster Tarpley - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4MahRKtM5s)

Tarpley is spot on about "Independent organization". Organization IS the key to Success

[edelweiss pirate]

Jones AND Tarpley are disinfo

IMHO

This kind of tests the credibility of your opinion more than anything.

[wakeup2nwo]

Schiff Radio Exclusive: Rand's Romney Strategy - YouTube

[andre1984]

lol he won't answer Jones' calls and goes on with Shiff.

That move actually makes Jones seem way more credible than he actually is.

[canuckster]

if ron paul is a freemason, he WILL toe the brotherhood line, plain and simple.

[phildee3]

if ron paul is a freemason, he WILL toe the brotherhood line, plain and simple.

Toe?

[soleil]

Toe?

Maybe a reference to the five points of fellowship. ;)

I've found Tarpley very informative recently and I respect him for his trips to NATO's latest love bombing sites.

He's not a Marxist though. In European terms, he'd be a General de Gaulle, anti-NATO dirigiste.

He does have the annoying American habit of using "Fascist" instead of oligarch, especially given that Roosevelt's New Deal which he wants protected, has elements from Mussolini's corporate state.

[soleil]

The Rand Paul Deception with Webster Tarpley - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4MahRKtM5s)

Very interesting. He gives an example of what preceded Bilderberg.

[tinyint]

Alex Jones is not a dis-info agent, he can just be quite aggressive when interviewing people at times.

Yes, I wonder if the "nazis" would run the US and the world, why the hell is it prohibited to
1) investigate the real history, question the "holocaust"
2) why did the "nazis" in US never consider signing peace with Germany and end the occupation

That is an insane assertion of both of them to make, but the jewish masters will be pleased

An interesting exchange took place on a radio program that can be found on YouTube featuring the fervent Jew-supporter and Jewish Power-denier, Webster Tarpley, and the semi-truth brigade of what I would consider to be less staunch Jew-lovers in Kevin Barrett, Joshua Blakeney, James Fetzer and Greg Felton. The more relevant portion of the audio begins around the 30 minute mark of the video posted below:
http://zioncrimefactory.com/


WCT ROUNDTABLE 3: Webster Tarpley, Jim Fetzer, Kevin Barrett & Greg Felton w/ Joshua Blakeney + - YouTube