The Pleiades cluster looks like a butterfly

[cloudgazer]

Omg check this out. I was just reading about Pleidians, when I came across this picture of the Pleiades star cluster. It looks like a butterfly.

Ever heard of the butterfly people? They are from North American tribal mythology. A few of the tribes believe they would become butterfly people when they die. Interesting. anyway. Check it out. Can you see the resemblance of this cluster to a butterfly? I can!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Pleiades_large.jpg/200px-Pleiades_large.jpg

[bigus_dickus]

err... the planets are not on the same plane(!?)

[cloudgazer]

err... the planets are not on the same plane(!?)

So what! Just look at the picture (that I got from wikipedia by the way), I think it's too much of a "coincidence" that it looks like a butterfly!

[bigus_dickus]

So what! Just look at the picture (that I got from wikipedia by the way), I think it's too much of a "coincidence" that it looks like a butterfly!

so what?

you do understand that some planets are closer and some are much farther, do you?

[manchurian_candidate]

so what?

you do understand that some planets are closer and some are much farther, do you?

You should chill out a little man :) I think cloudgazer realises that but is merely pointing out that in the picture posted it appears there is a butterfly. Without over-analysing it too much I can see it plainly. :)

[bigus_dickus]

Without over-analysing it too much I can see it plainly. :)

how can a single one liner be "over analyzing"??

and anyway, i don't see a butterfly there no matter how hard i look. you must want to see a butterfly, only then you can see it.

[manchurian_candidate]

how can a single one liner be "over analyzing"??

and anyway, i don't see a butterfly there no matter how hard i look. you must want to see a butterfly, only then you can see it.

Your statement said (in my opinion) that you were thinking too literally and not payign attention to what CG was saying therefore looking at the picture to deeply i.e. over-analysing.

That is fair enough if you dont see the butterfly, don't want to turn a simple observation of someone into a slanging match. :(:cool:

[bigus_dickus]

Your statement said (in my opinion) that you were thinking too literally and not payign attention to what CG was saying therefore looking at the picture to deeply i.e. over-analysing.

That is fair enough if you dont see the butterfly, don't want to turn a simple observation of someone into a slanging match. :(:cool:

i was paying attention to what she was saying, that's why i posted. what "looks like that" isn't necessarily "that". same goes for all constellations, they are stars closer and farther from us, not on the same plane, however they appear to us as if they exist on a 2 dimensional plane. that's why we connect these dots and imagine known shapes. and we do it for our convenience, otherwise how would people talk about them and point at them if they didn't know where to point? we don't have coordinates computing systems in our brains, our brains can only see and recognize patterns that they can remember.

here is another view. find the butterfly in this "magic" picture.

http://www.nightskyinfo.com/archive/pleiades/pleiades.jpg

[cloudgazer]

how can a single one liner be "over analyzing"??

and anyway, i don't see a butterfly there no matter how hard i look. you must want to see a butterfly, only then you can see it.

Honestly, I wasn't trying to see a butterfly, I wasn't expecting that. It just caught my eye somehow. And yes I do understand what you're saying about those different stars/planets or whatever being far away from each other. That doesn't really matter to me, because from this distance (Earth), they appear a certain way, a butterfly. You see the sort of gaseous looking lines between those bright stars, those are what give the appearance to the whole thing, of a butterfly. I think if you look at it too closely it's harder to see the shape I'm talking about.

[cloudgazer]

Well, yea in that one it looks less like a butterfly than the 1st smaller picture. But anyway, I still take it as a sign. I just use my intuition as it has guided me in the past, that's all.

[bigus_dickus]

Honestly, I wasn't trying to see a butterfly, I wasn't expecting that. It just caught my eye somehow. And yes I do understand what you're saying about those different stars/planets or whatever being far away. That doesn't really matter to me, because from this distance (Earth), they appear a certain way, a butterfly. You see the sort of gaseous looking lines between those bright stars, those are what give the appearance to the whole thing, of a butterfly. I think if you look at it too closely it's harder to see the shape I'm talking about.

for sure. in the above post i said in general terms why we do it and why we have been doing it since ancestry. it's not a bad thing, in fact it's the only way we can talk about it since we can't travel over there. hence, we invented the term "pleiades" so we can distinguish. it's a Greek word and here is what it means:

Pleiades (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Pleiades)
1388, the seven daughters of Atlas and Pleione, transformed by Zeus into seven stars, from L., from Gk. Pleiades, perhaps lit. "constellation of the doves" from a shortened form of peleiades, pl. of peleias "dove," from PIE base *pel- "dark-colored, gray." Or perhaps from plein "to sail," because the season of navigation begins with their heliacal rising. Mentioned by Hesiod (pre-700 B.C.E.), only six now are visible to most people; on a clear night a good eye can see nine (in 1579, well before the invention of the telescope, astronomer Moestlin correctly drew 11 Pleiades stars); telescopes reveal at least 500.

therefore the connection that you made with the "butterfly people" myth, is kinda far fetched, don't you think? not saying that it can't be true, but there's no evidence for its validity by merely looking at the night sky and discovering patterns.

[cloudgazer]

Even after what you say, I don't find it far-fetched. Maybe it's just me. I was making a spiritual connection rather than having to do with history or science.

Also I hear that Pleiadians are supposed to help people raise their awareness.

And butterfly can represent transformation in a way.

Plus I just think that the butterfly people actually exist, whether they are pleidians or not. So I could be wrong about this whole star cluster thing (even tho to me it is just symbolic). But when I saw the cluster, my mind somehow made the connection. Anyway, don't know what else to say about that.

[bigus_dickus]

Even after what you say, I don't find it far-fetched. Maybe it's just me. I was making a spiritual connection rather than having to do with history or science.

Also I hear that Pleiadians are supposed to help people raise their awareness.

And butterfly can represent transformation in a way.

Plus I just think that the butterfly people actually exist, whether they are pleidians or not. So I could be wrong about this whole star cluster thing (even tho to me it is just symbolic). But when I saw the cluster, my mind somehow made the connection. Anyway, don't know what else to say about that.

i know, i was just saying that it was a creation of your mind, yet a beautiful one and the way you connected it. i hope the butterfly people exist, although i don't know about them. i have met people who believe they are from sirius. how can i question that, maybe they are. they are still people though and their home is here for now.

[cloudgazer]

i know, i was just saying that it was a creation of your mind, yet a beautiful one and the way you connected it. i hope the butterfly people exist, although i don't know about them. i have met people who believe they are from sirius. how can i question that, maybe they are. they are still people though and their home is here for now.

Thank you :) very nice of you to say! :)