inflamatry joint pain

[carole21]

I suffer from joint pain which comes and goes, at the moment it is particularly bad, in my feet knees and hands. I have been to the doctor about it several times and have had no diagnosis or treatment. can anyone give me any advice or help please.

[boudica52]

Vitamin D reduces joint pain!



This interesting snippet appeared in the Houston Chronicle a few days back as a part of a question and answer session with Dr. Mitchell Hecht.

http://article.wn.com/view/2009/02/23/Peoples_Pharmacy_Vitamin_D_can_ease_joint_pain/ “A couple of weeks ago, my husband saw his endocrinologist, and the doctor ordered a test of his vitamin D level. It was very low, so my husband was put on 2,000 units per day. My Husband has been having pain in his shoulder with a limited range of motion. An orthopedic surgeon told him he had a tear in his rotator cuff and the only option was surgery. In less than a week and a half on the vitamin D supplement, he has no pain and full range of motion. This is like a miracle! I think we need a second opinion on that surgery.”

As Dr. Hecht pointed out, it is unlikely that vitamin D could reverse a rotator-cuff tear, so there must have been a misdiagnosis. A rotator cuff tear is something that cannot be fixed without surgery, so it is likely that the pain was due to inflammation in the joint due to arthritis. As my posts have previously documented, vitamin D is a potent anti-inflammatory hormone. The total recovery from pain, along with a recovery of full range of motion, was likely due to its anti-inflammatory properties.

Chalk up one more victory for this amazing hormone!


Posted by Dr. Marc Sorenson at 10:28 AM


Labels: arthritis, chronic pain, joint pain, vitamin D

[hypnoticspectre]

Ill give you some advice, dont go to ur doctor!

Start with getting some more sun sure, vit D is ace.. then maybe something to rub on your knees, perhaps tiger balm.. its not that it actually heals but allows for heat to build. Im no doctor but if things are warm they tend to heal.
also what about laying off things like white bread and margerine, both have a profile for being unkind, eating non-toxic and potentially curing foods might do yuo alot of good..
Id also research glucosomine and other cartilage building possibilities.

[deetox]

Astaxanthin, that stuff is an absolute miracle for joint pain (and lots more).

http://www.naturalnews.com/023177_astaxanthin_antioxidants.html

[carole21]

thanks that sounds really interesting, I probably am short of vit d, I will go out in the sunshine for a free dose while I can.
I am feeling much better than yesterday, I mixed some essential oils of thyme, rosemary and benzoin, it has helped but I am still needing to take pain killers.

[buddhabuddha]

What helps me is blue berries,avocardo's, vit d3, and vitamin b3 very good and keeps the body relaxed.

[hypnoticspectre]

test yourself by not using painkillers(full of stuff I wont go into) Instead start adding the stuff like celtic salt, Kiwi(all fruit), Herbal Teas(honey to sweeten) and pleaz quit with the toxic crap that the majority of your local supermarket has to offer!

[carole21]

I only take painkillers when I need to and dont like taking them, sometimes walking is painful so if I need to go out I take them.

[john cougar femacamp]

The aforementioned posts are great! Vit D, Tiger Balm, etc etc. But, fresh Ginger Root is also a great remedy as well:
Modern scientific research has revealed that ginger possesses numerous therapeutic properties including antioxidant effects, an ability to inhibit the formation of inflammatory compounds, and direct anti-inflammatory effects.
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=72

[carole21]

thankyou, what do you do with it, just eat it raw?

[alienbiketrail]

I only take painkillers when I need to and dont like taking them, sometimes walking is painful so if I need to go out I take them.

What type of shoes do you wear this is a major cause for some people to have joint pain in the feet ,knees,hips and even their back.

[carole21]

good question, at the moment I am using boots with lifts in them, the podiatrist put them in for me. I had pains in my heals but they are not too bad now. But I now have pains in my toes and the soles of my feet as well as my knees.
what really worries me is the pain in my fingers that started about a month ago- without painkillers doing some really simple things can be painful.

[octopus]

thankyou, what do you do with it, just eat it raw?

Get yourself a juicer ( doesn't need to be an expensive one) and make some fresh fruit/vegetable juice every day.
You can add a decent chunk of raw ginger to your fruits and vegs, alltogether this will boost your health.

If you are not used to the sharp taste you can add a good dollop of yogurt or cream to your juice.

Enjoy!

[octopus]

The root cause of your inflammation and pain will be acidity.

There's lots of info on the web on how to alkalize your system, you could start with taking bicarbonate of soda but you also need to make sure that you supply your body with plenty of vitamins and minerals.

All the best!

[pheony]

Ask your Dr to refer you to a Rheumatologist. This might help in understanding what is wrong with you. It's all very well treating yourself when you know what you are treating, but ultimately pointless if you don't.:)

[carole21]

Thanks pheony, but my doctor cant get rid of me quick enough I havent even had a proper diagnosis.
I also dont want to take steroids or any drug that can hve serious long term side effects, so I am looking for a more natural aproach

[302bluefog]

What type of shoes do you wear this is a major cause for some people to have joint pain in the feet ,knees,hips and even their back.

High end New balance shoes did help me....

[carole21]

High end New balance shoes did help me....

Im not sure what you mean

[ozpixie]

We are all different and that is a fact that should not be overlooked. What works for one person fails another.

Just be very careful and be prepared to try a lot of things before you strike on the ones that work for you.

For me ginger is great, and I wear crocs just about everywhere and bugger anyone who looks down on me for that. For me Vitamin D is one of the worst things to trigger inflammation and so are tomatoes and potatoes. I had no help from any kind of fish oil. There is a horse and dog liniment here that is really cheap and that works for me. Warm baths are good. I take prescription pain killers and prednisolone and without that I would have necked myself by now. The nasties in them can be counteracted to a fair degree with Alpha-Lipoeic Acid but it does give you a reflux on an empty stomach.

[carole21]

Thankyou, the dog and horse linament sound interesting, where is here by the way

[vegan_on_the_land]

Yes, ginger is a good anti-inflammatory. So is turmeric, a closely related plant. Turmeric works better with black pepper. The piperine in the pepper helps the curcumin in turmeric to be absorbed and enhances its effect. Piperine also has anti-inflammatory properties. Turmeric should also be taken with oil to enhance its absorption. A good curry containing all those things would be a delicious medicine.

Tea's quercetin is also anti-inflammatory. Green or black but, apparently, not oolong.

Oil of wintergreen is supposed to be a good rub due to its salicylates. It must never be taken internally.

[monay]

A friend of mine had trouble with gout and tried everything. He then drank parsely tea and was fine in a few days.

[mr stoppitall]

Medical uses

Rose hips are particularly high in vitamin C content, one of the richest plant sources available. However, RP-HPLC assays of fresh rose hips and several commercially available products revealed a wide range of L-ascorbic acid content, ranging from 0.03 to 1.3%.[2] Rose hips of some species, especially Rosa canina (Dog Rose) and R. majalis, have been used as a source of vitamin C. During World War II, the people of Britain were encouraged through letters to The Times newspaper, articles in the British Medical Journal, and pamphlets produced by Claire Loewenfeld, a dietitian working for Great Ormond Street Hospital for Sick Children, to gather wild-grown rose hips and to make a vitamin C syrup for children. This was because German submarines were sinking many commercial ships: citrus fruits from the tropics were very difficult to import.

Rose hips contain plenty of lycopene, an important and strong antioxidant that is an integral part of low density lipoprotein (LDL) as well as of many cellular membranes.[3] Lycopene in rosehips differs greatly in its isomer distribution than in other sources (tomatoes, pink grapefruit).[citation needed]

Rose hips also contain some vitamin A and B, essential fatty acids and antioxidant flavonoids.[citation needed]

A study of a rose-hip preparation for treating rheumatoid arthritis concluded that there was a benefit, apparently due to both anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidant effects.[4]

Rose hips are used to help prevent colds and influenza.[5]

Rose hip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia :)

[302bluefog]

I can feel the rain coming tomm...:(

[godgoo]

I suffer from joint pain which comes and goes, at the moment it is particularly bad, in my feet knees and hands. I have been to the doctor about it several times and have had no diagnosis or treatment. can anyone give me any advice or help please.

Liniment works great.

[godgoo]

I suffer from joint pain which comes and goes, at the moment it is particularly bad, in my feet knees and hands. I have been to the doctor about it several times and have had no diagnosis or treatment. can anyone give me any advice or help please.

It's osmosis basically filling your cells up full of fluid, it's water and lymph coz it's an immune respone, but the bodies regulatory system water potentials isotonic or even hypotonic?. Gridlok'd, alls you can do is apply pressure and use liniment :)

The histamine is in your body is to regulate within the lymph. It's just a matter of shifting the gradient (water potentials) within the cells.

[john cougar femacamp]

thankyou, what do you do with it, just eat it raw?

You can actually. But, grinding it via juicer with carrots yields an awesome ginger/carrot juice that is an amazing anti-inflammatory agent that breaks down cancers/inflammations/sickness to nothingness. The vitamin D and betacarotene bond is amazing. Give it a try. It is awesome!

[carole21]

thanks, I will try it, I have a juicer

[noobcybot]

If this is a gout style inflammation then it may be caused by yeast. So obviously it would be wise to cut beers, breads etc... Right out. Perhaps consider Fasting for a few das if appropriate and see if you get any results.

Be mindful of your breathing IE breath in deep through your nose and out through your mouth and from your diaphragm as though meditating in order to not be stimulating yeasts etc... through anaerobic respiration.

As others have mentioned alkalising your system may help to cure this so take some sodium bicarbonate (medical grade) in a glass of water twice on the daily also havensome vegetables that have some Vit B to replace what is lost through the soda.

[5145pholus]

You can actually. But, grinding it via juicer with carrots yields an awesome ginger/carrot juice that is an amazing anti-inflammatory agent that breaks down cancers/inflammations/sickness to nothingness. The vitamin D and betacarotene bond is amazing. Give it a try. It is awesome!

Yes, carrot and ginger 100% fantastic!!!!!

Also try cider vinegar. It must be raw and unpasturised. Aspalls make unpasturised cider vinegar and is available in most supermarkets (if you are in the UK that is).

You haven't said that you have arthritis, but some of the following could be of help to you as its related to pain in the joints.

My Mum has arthritis (so her doctor told her) in her right knee caused through injury (she's fallen on it a coule of times), and has been following the advice that Margaret Hills wrote in her books.

The regime is that we have a dessetspoon of cider vinegar with a teaspoon of honey in warm water 3 times a day. She has also cut out virtually all dairy (we are vegetarians as well) and has stopped all acid fruits and doesn't have any fruits or veg from the Belladonna family (tomatoes, peppers, potatoes).

Essentially, the idea is to cut out all acid forming food.

We also include raw ginger in veggie juices (we could do this more often though) and also have mollases (in porridge) everyday.

She's been doing this diet for a month or two now and she has seen an improvement, not great, but she has more mobility than before and she has a lot less pain. She never took any of the painkillers the doctor prescribed, she only went to them for a diagnosis, and prefers to grit her teeth through the pain than take allopathic medicine, but the pain is considerably less than it was.

We both think that she would probably have more success if she tried harder following the regime, but you know, sometimes its hard to be good, even when you know its the right thing to do.

This is Margaret Hills cider book:

Cider Vinegar (Sheldon Natural Remedies): Amazon.co.uk: Margaret Hills: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41TZ0M5Y6QL.@@AMEPARAM@@41TZ0M5Y6QL

And this is her arthritis book:

Curing Arthritis the Drug-free Way: Amazon.co.uk: Margaret Hills, Christine Horner: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JCFP4N0DL.@@AMEPARAM@@41JCFP4N0DL

Hope this helps. Don't worry, your situation wont be forever, it will get better with all the advice that you're getting on this forum. ;)

[carole21]

I just want to say thankyou for all your advice

[sicknote]

A friend of mine had trouble with gout and tried everything. He then drank parsley tea and was fine in a few days.

+1. Parsley tea is a powerhouse.

I would also add other anti-arthritic teas such horsetail, lemongrass, dandelion & nettle tea's for overcoming joint pain.

http://www.teabenefits.com/index.html

Obviously find out & eliminate the root cause (dietary). Milk & wheat can be arthritic along with rich foods & sauces.

[carole21]

I am trying nettle tea at the moment, but I am having some good days and some bad days.
Does anyone know where to get horse linament from, I am in England, and roughly how much it costs.

[ozpixie]

Thankyou, the dog and horse linament sound interesting, where is here by the way

Australia. :)

[carole21]

Vitamin D reduces joint pain!



This interesting snippet appeared in the Houston Chronicle a few days back as a part of a question and answer session with Dr. Mitchell Hecht.

http://article.wn.com/view/2009/02/23/Peoples_Pharmacy_Vitamin_D_can_ease_joint_pain/ “A couple of weeks ago, my husband saw his endocrinologist, and the doctor ordered a test of his vitamin D level. It was very low, so my husband was put on 2,000 units per day. My Husband has been having pain in his shoulder with a limited range of motion. An orthopedic surgeon told him he had a tear in his rotator cuff and the only option was surgery. In less than a week and a half on the vitamin D supplement, he has no pain and full range of motion. This is like a miracle! I think we need a second opinion on that surgery.”

As Dr. Hecht pointed out, it is unlikely that vitamin D could reverse a rotator-cuff tear, so there must have been a misdiagnosis. A rotator cuff tear is something that cannot be fixed without surgery, so it is likely that the pain was due to inflammation in the joint due to arthritis. As my posts have previously documented, vitamin D is a potent anti-inflammatory hormone. The total recovery from pain, along with a recovery of full range of motion, was likely due to its anti-inflammatory properties.

Chalk up one more victory for this amazing hormone!


Posted by Dr. Marc Sorenson at 10:28 AM


Labels: arthritis, chronic pain, joint pain, vitamin D

I just thought to post this to let you know how i am getting on, I have been to see a rheumatologist and had blood tests and x-rays, he confirmed that I have rheumatoid arthritis.
I have also a severe vitamin d deficiency
I have had a steroid injection and have been put on hydroxychloroquinine and methotrexate, I havent taken any methorexate yet as i want to check something out with my gp first. Does anyone have any experience of using these poisons?

I hate taking medication but I have been in so much pain that I will do anything to get rid of it.
I would like to thank you all for your help and suggestions

[sicknote]

Carole, have you eliminated all dairy: https://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=milk+arthritis&oq=milk+arthritis&gs_l=hp.3..0j0i30l3j0i5i10j0i5l5.1524.4193.1.4703. 14.14.0.0.0.0.181.999.13j1.14.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1 .IvlIWwazcMg&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=b18db50adf51d0a7&biw=990&bih=577

[plam]

Carole, supplementing is not going to fix your problem
I have a similar problem so I've done a lot of research.

The underlining cause of arthritis is energy deficiency.
Read this - http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222712

[blue2]

Causes of inflammation is lack of Omega3 pure marine fish oils and i found a good one a little while ago on www.naturalhealthpractice.com

However there are many foods causing this-grains for one and meats and dairy fed on grains and now Maize which despite i was told by a young Farmer GM wasn't allowed it seems seeds are being spliced in order to get over this which is a modification.

Breads in shops are poison that simple as synthetic raising agents instead of old Master Baker Method of 'rising' and 'proving' are used and added to that mix is bleached and heavily over refined flour plus so called fresh breads made on promises arrives frozen then baked in Microwave ovens.

No wonder peoples cannot utilize Protein that is gluten. Of course people could learn how to make bread at home using Stoneground Organic flours which have nothing added and nothing taken out. It is reason some people are becoming hugely obese.Breads are modified junk as are quiches and pizzas. Also over refinement and added synthetic non food chemicals cause addiction in brain centre.

Then take dairy milk for one thing is devoid of naturally occurring enzymes which assist in digestion of Casein the milk protein. Autistic and other diseases like Gulf War syndrome and ME were found to have high Opiod Peptides in testing urine in Private Research meaning brain is dumbed down and glands go Underactive and heavy sleeps occur with muscle weakness.

Then there are heavy use Of Pesticides on crops and i once saw on TV a few years ago a programme on Wheat and it's storage and it is sprayed at least six times whilst grain is stood in tubs and that is aside from when it is growing.

Added to this little cocktail is Sterigmatocystin which is a Carcinogenic Mycotoxin found on mold of cheese crusts,cereals and maize in retail outlets. It is a poison of the type dermatoxin from the fungi genus Aspergillus. It also inhibits DNA synthesis and causes inflammation to Liver and Kidneys.

Not good when you consider that the Liver when healthy turns around T4 to active energy T3 for the thyroid gland which is responsible for all cell function.

I found this when Labour was in power at www.Archive.food.gov.uk but whether it is still available with this present Coalition i have no idea with all their changes.

Then we have Heavy Metals in all sorts of places in foods you wouldn't believe. Heavy use of Omega 6 vegetable oils used in cooking will cause inflammation..Mediterranean diet is lacking. Heavily processed fast foods have become the norm,bread is a fast food.

If anyone wants to learn more about the whole thing of inflammation i cannot recommend highly enough this book which is available on Amazon in an easy to read format,called, The Healing Power of Flax by Herb Joiner-Bey, N.D ISBN 1-893910-32-6

[carole21]

Carole, supplementing is not going to fix your problem
I have a similar problem so I've done a lot of research.

The underlining cause of arthritis is energy deficiency.
Read this - http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222712

excellent article, this condition only started for me at the begining of summer so I am still "a novice" but i am trying and researching all I can. One thing is true and that is that I have been pushing myself too hard and letting other people push me even harder, so one pay off of this condition is that I have been able to rest.

[sicknote]

I will take that as a no, lol.

[lu__]

Remove grains, sugars, dairy, alcohol, nsaids and processed seed/vegetable oils.

Add, Turmeric, Devils Claw Tincture (evaporate off alc), Cat's Claw Tea (Una de Gato) simmered for 10 mins, long chain omega 3 (Docosahexaenoic acid + Eicosapentaenoic acid).

[plam]

excellent article, this condition only started for me at the begining of summer so I am still "a novice" but i am trying and researching all I can. One thing is true and that is that I have been pushing myself too hard and letting other people push me even harder, so one pay off of this condition is that I have been able to rest.

This body is like a rechargeable battery.
You can recharge it but once totally exhausted,
it's finished, you can't keep recharging it for ever.

[sueperb]

Please note.
This is not medical advice nor is it advice to break any law and is posted for infomation only.

This is from memory as i know longer have my book collection but its about a botanist who upon his return from the Caribean/South America around the 1930s wrote something along the lines of

" the roots of the marijuana plant are used there for cramps and inflamation "

I have know idea if this works and can only guess that the roots where either chewed raw
or boiled into some sort of drinkable tea , maybe if there are any " alternative " Drs out there they could look into this ?.

[nimlyn]

Please note.
This is not medical advice nor is it advice to break any law and is posted for infomation only.

This is from memory as i know longer have my book collection but its about a botanist who upon his return from the Caribean/South America around the 1930s wrote something along the lines of

" the roots of the marijuana plant are used there for cramps and inflamation "

I have know idea if this works and can only guess that the roots where either chewed raw
or boiled into some sort of drinkable tea , maybe if there are any " alternative " Drs out there they could look into this ?.



Sativex

http://www.gwpharm.com/sativex.aspx

[motleyhoo]

I didn't read through all the posts, but a lot of people have been having positive results with green lippid oil that comes from farmed mussels. It goes under the name Lyprinol. I am about to try some myself.

.

[302bluefog]

This body is like a rechargeable battery.
You can recharge it but once totally exhausted,
it's finished, you can't keep recharging it for ever.

Stone Cold Truth....

[bridgetshaw]

I can feel the rain coming tomm...:(

Ohh my great nana used to say that, and she was crippled with rhumatoid athritis, and now i know what she means....I do hope they have better treatments these days :(

[mr stoppitall]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2282980/The-cure-arthritis-Fish-oil-aspirin-according-breakthrough-discovery.html
The Fail reports that fish oil and aspirin produce a combined effect to relieve the symptoms of Arthritis.

I thought it best to post this here but I have not really taken the article serious although it may inspire some research for those concerned. :)

[arcyclus]

I have had good luck with, pure, raw, Apple Cider Vinegar for joint pain.

[apollo_gnomon]

I have had good luck with, pure, raw, Apple Cider Vinegar for joint pain.

I haven't tried it because I get serious heartburn from consuming any of various acidic foods, but if it works, use it.

Joint pain caused by inflammation needs to be allowed to heal, so anything that helps reduce the inflammation helps your body move the nutrients and hormonal releases into the affected areas. I have had to use massive doses of NSAIDS such as ibuprofen + Tylenol over the years for stupid things I've done to my shoulders, and I'm starting to see signs of both kidney and liver overuse caused by them.

I haven't read the entire thread (sorry!) but I also recommend the use of heat packs, saunas, hot water soaks and self-administered pressure-point massage to help relax the affected area and move fluids through. Keep in mind that most inflammatory injuries involve cartilage (joints) and tendons, which do not have circulatory connections in the same way muscles and bones have. That means they heal very slowly in comparison, as the body cannot move nutrients, hormones and other chemical products into the tissues as quickly. For new/fresh injuries alternating heat and cold packs can help by essentially using the body's capillary system to squeeze and relax the tissues around the joint to move the inflammation fluids out and healing fluids in.

Also, keep in mind the lymphatic system isn't pumped actively like blood, but passively by body motion, muscular contraction and the like. This means that when we have inflammation injuries we need to keep the limb in motion, gently, rather than totally immobilizing it. If you need to wear an Ace bandage to get around during the day be sure to take it off for a while in the evening and flex an inflamed joint a few times to keep fluids moving through the area.

I'll try apple cider vinegar next time I have an outbreak in my shoulder and see if it helps. I've given it to the chickens ( about 1/4 cup in a gallon of water) and they like that in the summer, and I use it in cooking and for salad dressing sometimes but never by itself as a therapeutic.

Thanks.

[arcyclus]

I haven't tried it because I get serious heartburn from consuming any of various acidic foods, but if it works, use it.



It cures heartburn to! At least it does for me.

One tablespoon in a class of water, heartburn gone in 2 min.

NOTE: It will only work if it's, raw, and pure. BRAGG, ACV is what I use. Should be available in any Health food store.

[donfanatico]

Have you tried MSM (Methyl Sulphonly Methane)?

[big brother]

good question, at the moment I am using boots with lifts in them, the podiatrist put them in for me. I had pains in my heals but they are not too bad now. But I now have pains in my toes and the soles of my feet as well as my knees.
what really worries me is the pain in my fingers that started about a month ago- without painkillers doing some really simple things can be painful.

what age are you and what weight?

[saty]

Remove grains, sugars, dairy, alcohol, nsaids and processed seed/vegetable oils.

Add, Turmeric, Devils Claw Tincture (evaporate off alc), Cat's Claw Tea (Una de Gato) simmered for 10 mins, long chain omega 3 (Docosahexaenoic acid + Eicosapentaenoic acid).

Lu, where did you learn about these foods>? I never even heard about add,devils and cats claws.What type of foods are they btw?

[lu__]

Lu, where did you learn about these foods>? I never even heard about add,devils and cats claws.What type of foods are they btw?

Hmm, I did a lot of reading on herbal medicines a few years ago when I had knee problems, they're not actually foods, Devils claw is an African spiny tuber, Cats Claw (Una De Gato ) is an Amazonian tree bark, they both work and so have possible contra-indications.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpagophytum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncaria_tomentosa

Devils claw needs to be in tincture form to work most effectively, you can add warm water to evaporate the alcohol which itself is inflammatory.

Cats Claw I found best simmered for 10 - 15 minutes, it's a strong tea though at that point, I still use it a bit for flavor but don't simmer it, it's nice with ginger , lime and ginseng.

Add meant "Add these". :)

[blue2]

Yes Lu i have heard of these herbs and can usually be bought in UK.

I had recommended me by a Dr a few years back, Samento, cats claw, but i don't use it these days as i don't like the ethanol in it. I prefer and currently use this Omega 3 from www.naturalhealthpractice.com and i prick the capsule to get fish oil onto a spoon as i can't use gelatine.

I used to use Udo Oil which is a balance of 3,6,9 and my skin was velvety with this,not to cook with obviously.

I use Biona cold pressed Cranberry juice too for kidneys and this is high in antioxidants too. Neals Yard Remedies too do a good one called Super Antioxidant Boost. They have their own herb farms in UK.

Cooking with vegetable oils causes inflammation as does using sugar, and wheat which is also congestive.

I also used Paracleanse or Intesinal cleanse from www.harmonikireland.com and you must drink plenty water whilst doing this,the latter one gets rid of pesticides too.

There's www.purplesage.org.uk
www.turnaroundyourhealth.co.uk
www.herbs-garden.co.uk/guide/raintree-nutrition-inc
www.AmazonRainForestHerbs.co.uk

Hope it's of some help:)

[lu__]

Yes Lu i have heard of these herbs and can usually be bought in UK.

I had recommended me by a Dr a few years back, Samento, cats claw, but i don't use it these days as i don't like the ethanol in it. I prefer and currently use this Omega 3 from www.naturalhealthpractice.com and i prick the capsule to get fish oil onto a spoon as i can't use gelatine.

I used to use Udo Oil which is a balance of 3,6,9 and my skin was velvety with this,not to cook with obviously.

I use Biona cold pressed Cranberry juice too for kidneys and this is high in antioxidants too. Neals Yard Remedies too do a good one called Super Antioxidant Boost. They have their own herb farms in UK.

Cooking with vegetable oils causes inflammation as does using sugar, and wheat which is also congestive.

I also used Paracleanse or Intesinal cleanse from www.harmonikireland.com and you must drink plenty water whilst doing this,the latter one gets rid of pesticides too.

There's www.purplesage.org.uk
www.turnaroundyourhealth.co.uk
www.herbs-garden.co.uk/guide/raintree-nutrition-inc
www.AmazonRainForestHerbs.co.uk

Hope it's of some help:)

Hey, what do you mean ethanol in Cats Claw? Do you mean it was in a tincture or something else?