Doomsday seed vault Pictures!!!

[real6]

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?collectionId=1591&galleryName=News#a=1

[ak87]

wow, well they're definitely getting ready for sumthing big...

[dangermouse]

not a very positive name :P

[hagbard_celine]

not a very positive name :P

No it's not. It makes me wonder... "Doomsday Seed Vault" could mean two things: A vault to keep seeds in in case there's a doomsday, or a vault that contains some "seed-like" thing that causes a doomsday. Which is it?:(:confused:

[dangermouse]

I don't like the international friction thats building up and pointing out elites are preparing for doomsday :/

[sniffle]

I think its name origin is similar to that of the doomsday book.

Why is it called the 'Domesday' Book?

It was written by an observer of the survey that "there was no single hide nor a yard of land, nor indeed one ox nor one cow nor one pig which was left out". The grand and comprehensive scale on which the Domesday survey took place (see How it was compiled), and the irreversible nature of the information collected led people to compare it to the Last Judgement, or 'Doomsday', described in the Bible, when the deeds of Christians written in the Book of Life were to be placed before God for judgement. This name was not adopted until the late 12th Century.

[lifeofbrian]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault

http://www.projectcamelot.org/norway.html

[angelmoon]

http://www.projectcamelot.org/norway.html

this is a must read, looks like we are all doomed !!!!!!!!!

[kriss_crow]

http://www.projectcamelot.org/norway.html

this is a must read, looks like we are all doomed !!!!!!!!!
yes, I've been just thinking about it,


I am a Norwegian politician. I would like to say that difficult things will happen from the year 2008 till the year 2012.

The Norwegian government is building more and more underground bases and bunkers. When asked, they simply say that it is for the protection of the people of Norway. When I enquire when they are due to be finished, they reply “before 2011”.

Israel is also doing the same and many other countries too.

My proof that what I am saying is true is in the photographs I have sent of myself and all the Prime Ministers and ministers I tend to meet and am acquainted with. They know all of this, but they don’t want to alarm the people or create mass panic.

Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.

i think it was already commented here a while ago?

[thorleyart]

http://www.reuters.com/resources/pictures/galleries/Stories/633390984240625000/Previews/09_70.jpg

doesn't look very secure to me

[kblood]

http://www.reuters.com/resources/pictures/galleries/Stories/633390984240625000/Previews/09_70.jpg

doesn't look very secure to me

He :) True, but that is on the surface... not part of the 1000km complex below surface.

Very nice pictures by the way :) I was surprised they even made it public they where going to make the vault.

If they reveal that there is being made underground cities as well... then people might realise how much they are preparing for a possible doomsday.

http://www.projectcamelot.net/2008.html

I dont really believe much in doomsday being just around the corner, but I do appreciate that they are taking precautions.

[oiram]

No it's not. It makes me wonder... "Doomsday Seed Vault" could mean two things: A vault to keep seeds in in case there's a doomsday, or a vault that contains some "seed-like" thing that causes a doomsday. Which is it?:(:confused:
We better get ready no point to keep working for the Elite!
Specially when you see the sponsors you got to think twice!

Bill Gates, Rockefeller and the GMO giants know something we don’t
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529
Did we miss something here? Their press release stated, ‘so that crop diversity can be conserved for the future.’ What future do the seed bank’s sponsors foresee, that would threaten the global availability of current seeds, almost all of which are already well protected in designated seed banks around the world?

Anytime Bill Gates, the Rockefeller Foundation, Monsanto and Syngenta get together on a common project, it’s worth digging a bit deeper behind the rocks on Spitsbergen. When we do we find some fascinating things.

In reality, as it years later emerged, the Green Revolution was a brilliant Rockefeller family scheme to develop a globalized agribusiness which they then could monopolize just as they had done in the world oil industry beginning a half century before. As Henry Kissinger declared in the 1970’s, ‘If you control the oil you control the country; if you control food, you control the population.’


The Noah's Ark for the Zionists this is definitely not made for the common man!
Should we move close to the Vault they definitely don't drop the Bomb over there!

http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/
LONGYEARBYEN, Norway (CNN) — A vast underground vault storing millions
of seeds from around the world is scheduled to open this week in a mountain on
a remote island near the Arctic Ocean.

Dubbed the “Doomsday Vault,” the seed bank is considered the ultimate
safety net for the world’s seed collections, protecting them from a wide range
of threats including war, natural disasters, lack of funding or simply poor
agricultural management.

The Norwegian government paid to build the vault in a mountainside near
Longyearbyen, in the remote Svalbard islands between Norway and the North Pole.
Building began last year, and the vault is scheduled to open officially
Tuesday.

[real6]

It's important to point out that two separate sources have alerted us to a key element pertaining to the above: namely the likelihood that Australia will be a relatively safe zone from which rescue and recovery efforts will be launched planet wide.

Danger zones will be the east and west coasts of North America and south and central England. It is for this reason that the UK authorities have allowed such a large-scale influx of immigrants in recent years, most have congregated where there are better employment opportunities – in south and central England.

In essence, individuals in key positions have enabled immigration policies that have quietly encouraged a massive influx of immigrants: so as to pack them into a critical danger zone and thereby effectively sacrifice as many people as possible.

It also explains why the Bush family and Sun Moon have bought extensive tracts of land in Northern Paraguay, another relatively safe zone.

[real6]

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[beldazar]

Well by the looks of it, the 'elite' will be going there along with a load of freemasons. I dont want to go, im staying put! I wanna enter the 4th or 5th dimension or whatever, who wants to go from one prison to the next? It will be the same if we are rescued by spaceships, hoe do we know that we wont be taken to Titan, the next bloody prison they have in mind :D

[lifeofbrian]

It's important to point out that two separate sources have alerted us to a key element pertaining to the above: namely the likelihood that Australia will be a relatively safe zone from which rescue and recovery efforts will be launched planet wide.

Who says Australia will be relatively safe?

[them]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654&highlight=seed

Everybody should be keeping a supply of seeds as part of their own personal survival strategy.

http://www.veggiegardeningtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/Tomato-Seedlings.jpg

If everybody did.. these (http://www.croptrust.org/main/) fuckers wouldn't be having to burp you all.

[icke_is_right]

http://www.projectcamelot.org/norway.html

After looking at the above link, I'm struck by the similar descriptions given to the underground bases described in the USA. I looked into the tunnelling of these bases but can't find the link of the photos I had (of the machines used). What is apparent is that if you consider the potential if tunnelling has been going on since the 1950's in the USA, it is very possible that a huge underground network exists.

I have also thought of the idea,,,,, What suddenly changes these people who get to top positions of power apart from the normal things of power, money and ego. I do think that suddenly being confronted with knowledge way outside the realms of normal thinking could change most people?

'This is how it really is guys and we're all going underground when it all kicks off, wanna come or wanna stay above ground and die?'

My best wishes to everyone on this site and beyond.

G

[beldazar]

theres no such thing as death, its the biggest lie we are told

[icke_is_right]

The people building these bases wouldn't appear to think that death doesn't exist. OK, don't include the death scenario, what changes people's mindset that are in power, more than ego money and power then?

I am also confused, trying to link the Planet X, polarity shift, mass extermination by existing govt's; schools of thought.

So my questions is this? Why bother exterminating people en mass if a massive natural catastrophe is going to happen anyway?

G

[hagbard_celine]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/REAL6/Misc/driller.jpg


Nice tunnel boring machine.

You know I'd like to invent a tunnel filling machine!:cool:

[dangermouse]

Nice tunnel boring machine.

You know I'd like to invent a tunnel filling machine!:cool:

Heheh .. waste management solutions inc :D

[ticker]

The people building these bases wouldn't appear to think that death doesn't exist. OK, don't include the death scenario, what changes people's mindset that are in power, more than ego money and power then?

I am also confused, trying to link the Planet X, polarity shift, mass extermination by existing govt's; schools of thought.

So my questions is this? Why bother exterminating people en mass if a massive natural catastrophe is going to happen anyway?

G

I'm in the same boat lol.. but what if there really isn't a great catastrophy coming? Sure there might be a Planet X/Nibiru, but what if it isn't on a crash course to earth and that is what they want us to think. What if they are planning all this to bring their "prefered" population into the underground tunnels (the ones who will have the mark.. or the chip so to say). Once the illuminati has completed that task, they will continue with their plans for mass extermination by bombing the rest of the world or killing everyone by other means.

Don't take any of this seriously, it's just a crazy thought.. but to be honest, I don't know what a crazy thought is anymore..

Ticker

[nugget]

Dosnt sounds crazy to me at all mate. Not now anyway.

[hagbard_celine]

Heheh .. waste management solutions inc :D

All you'd need is a machine that tore away the tunnel surroundings and filled it in behind it with lose rock. It wouldn't be hard to desing. I'd like to start with the Channel Tunnel.

[gold]

I'm in the same boat lol.. but what if there really isn't a great catastrophy coming? Sure there might be a Planet X/Nibiru, but what if it isn't on a crash course to earth and that is what they want us to think. What if they are planning all this to bring their "prefered" population into the underground tunnels (the ones who will have the mark.. or the chip so to say). Once the illuminati has completed that task, they will continue with their plans for mass extermination by bombing the rest of the world or killing everyone by other means.

Don't take any of this seriously, it's just a crazy thought.. but to be honest, I don't know what a crazy thought is anymore..

TickerGood point ticker! Maybe these tunnels aren't for them at all, but for us! like you said ticker, maybe they are going to trick the masses into entering these tunnels, but for slave labour, never to to be let out again. Then the world is their playground!

It's Ironic! If this is the case, we are building our own prisons!

[ticker]

Good point ticker! Maybe these tunnels aren't for them at all, but for us! like you said ticker, maybe they are going to trick the masses into entering these tunnels, but for slave labour, never to to be let out again. Then the world is their playground!

It's Ironic! If this is the case, we are building our own prisons!


Haha good point as well.. although I like to think "out of the box.. or should I say seed vault?" :D

[friendsinthesky]

The earth is doomed you say? Then the seed vault will be useless to us. Why are you mob fearing? If something "big" is upon us, then my chances of survivng in this physical body is probably zero. And I wouldn't wanna be here if the sun and moon is covered with nuclear/volcanic cloud dust. Try growing seeds above the ground without the sun / moon and no electricity.

Doomsday vault, pppfffftttt!

[himram abif]

I saw the picture of this on BBC news a couple of days ago and the thing that struck me was the ARMED guards, now would somebody please tell me why a load of seeds need an armed guard on a island in the middle of the artic?

[gold]

I saw the picture of this on BBC news a couple of days ago and the thing that struck me was the ARMED guards, now would somebody please tell me why a load of seeds need an armed guard on a island in the middle of the artic?

Maybe he's there to stop the ppppenguins getting in:D

[linkon2me]

I think it is the first; to kep the seed in, in case ther's a doomsday

[linkon2me]

http://www.projectcamelot.org/norway.html

this is a must read, looks like we are all doomed !!!!!!!!!

Yes, it unfortunaly looks that way. Check out what Marshall Masters, a former CNN science feature field producer, has to say about 2012 and Planet X

Surviving 2012 and Planet X - Part 1 of 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0bj76389U)
Surviving 2012 and Planet X - Part 2 of 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjjrStDxTrc)
Surviving 2012 and Planet X - Part 3 of 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5TOmRD_V48&feature=related)
Surviving 2012 and Planet X - Part 4 of 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNZIyfBChmA&feature=related)
Surviving 2012 and Planet X - Part 5 of 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zero0Y6TCA8&feature=related)

[friendsinthesky]

Maybe he's there to stop the ppppenguins getting in:D

..more like it's to keep the rabbits out. (aussie humour)

[gold]

..more like it's to keep the rabbits out. (aussie humour)

:D:D:D

[hagbard_celine]

I saw the picture of this on BBC news a couple of days ago and the thing that struck me was the ARMED guards, now would somebody please tell me why a load of seeds need an armed guard on a island in the middle of the artic?


Good heavens, yes!:eek: Why indeed! Well spotted!:)

[notthisshitagain]

Just saw this in Yahoo!

http://60minutes.yahoo.com/segment/177/doomsday_vault

[Ian2day]

I have this memory from when I was a child. A far off star exploding sending its material this way. The current PM looking really pissed off. Everyone thinking its because his government or the economy is in such a bad way. When really it is because he knows that when the stars material impacts earth there is going to be a lot of bad times ahead.

I also have the memory of being the last man left on the planet. Of being set adrift on an island before all this kicks off. With every other man wiped out or harvested by the returning Annunaki. Leaving me behind as the only bloke on the planet. After a while I see all these ships heading for my island. They are full of women searching me out.

People need to start collating hard copies of everything they can. Don't rely on technology unless you have the ability to physically repair and create any parts. The ability to survive is key here. With the kit being small light and not too noticeable to the casual observer. The rest of it can be remembered at a later date. Find an isolated location which you can walk to. Within a couple of hours at most. Then hide some more important survival gear which you can't lumber about with you.

It is strange that people mention about Australia being safe. As around about the time I was being psychologically attacked last year by a gangstalking group. I heard them chatting in my presence how wonderful Australia is. That the port of Perth has loads of work. Could all this work be the elite sending all of their belongings to be stored in Australia.

I'm going to start printing off maps with map references etc. No one should rely on Satellites to be still working. So I implore everyone to get ya survival shit kit together. Otherwise you could be left without the tools needed.

Get some Ray Mears books and other notable experts books. For they surely are the key to seeing the other side of any judgement which is about to be delivered upon us. Or just forget about it all. Don't focus on any of it and it won't happen. But would you really want to take that chance?

The reason I think that we need to be prepared is just in case. Not it will 100% happen. If you live near a port. They have sea defences for a reason. So think of this as being there for a reason, just in case. With the reason being that the universe has an infinite number of possibilities. One of those possibilities is that everything that could happen will happen.

[skyline]

Destroy the useless eaters with war and GM doomsday crops and then have the earth to themselves with an army of selected slaves who have already been chosen and brainwashed

I wonder who paid for the construction?

[americana]

Norway paid for the construction. Other sources are providing funding to keep it up, including the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

Anyhoo, I am wondering what sort of "controls" are in place. That is, are all seeds in this vault NON-GMOs. (?) Is it all "original" genetic material? That would be important to know.

[rise_to_addiction]

Looks to me like they're just moving in. Starting with the crops to make sure they survive before sitX happens. Next, it will be the furniture.

[pepsirat]

Sound's like their up to something. But im not sure what or what to do about it. But im worried about all the people that have no idea what world they realy live in. The government can make them believe anything they want.
So all what i think i can do at the moment is try to get as many people questing things more and take a deeper look into who is realy controlling things. Over than that im not sure.
:confused:

[mtrbur]

It's all scare tactics... didn't Icke say something like they will attempt to spread fear in the years leading up to 2012 through events both real and staged?

[notthisshitagain]

It's all scare tactics... didn't Icke say something like they will attempt to spread fear in the years leading up to 2012 through events both real and staged?


Could very well be; but I guess it doesn't hurt to get ready.. you know, like someone already said, "just in case".

[celtic isis]

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?collectionId=1591&galleryName=News#a=1

yep i remember seeing an item about this a few years ago...a vault up on some freezing island in Norway...scary stuff eh.

[mtrbur]

Could very well be; but I guess it doesn't hurt to get ready.. you know, like someone already said, "just in case".


I suppose

[the itinerant shrubber]

Wouldnt it be funny if all the seeds turned out to be cress.

[real6]

yep i remember seeing an item about this a few years ago...a vault up on some freezing island in Norway...scary stuff eh.

yUP, AND WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MORE YEARS TO GO :(

[sieben]

You guys engaging on such story like, mad, because they digging a big hole in a rock? Ok they do it, but does it mean they do it all over the world?! wtf. In germany we are not digging shit like that, does it mean the germans are doomed for sure because we are all bad nazis? o_O
Where is the proof for all this crap? A guy posted some crap about aliens and modern archs, and he is involved into the politcan business there, he saying that an then it is true? Where is his work contract?

Oh please, if i setup a page and write down that the Bilderbergs is infiltrated by some agents of my site, and that i have digital tapes about their last meeting, would you belive that too? Are you so easy to manipulate, that it is enough to setup a top level domain, place some fake interviews with people who never ever anyone saw to impress you that way?!
You people really need to know better.

And the world will not go down on 2012! Basta, to many people ar talking to many shit about that.

[marpat]

So what, don't you think that what theya re doing is a good things. What happens if there was a masive natural disaster and we needed a supply of seeds that had been lost? people would then be going on about how this plan saved the world.

[ownedtbh]

do you guys actually believe in planet X?

[sieben]

Where is the proof that Nibiru really exist, should i belive in the great youtube videos? Which are done by same kind of yerks that did http://www.projectcamelot.org/norway.html this page?
I want proofs, no theorys, hard nailed proofs, no blah blah. No other dimensional mega planets that are not visible because they are infra red, and so on and so on.
Well, maybe they planing shit with us, i say like most of you the NWO is real and some stuff is really strange. I also would be agree, if there is something happening at 2012, that involves a planet like Niburu, we survive that, as we did 26000 years ago did. So, what now. If you are the president of the world, would you tell the people that something really ugly will happen in 4 years, please call out anarchy, kill robb fuck yourself you are dead anyway in 4 years?
Ok another thing would be, they digg great bunkers for all of us, and not for elite only, but how could that be possible without inform the people and they get crazy and ran amok?

[hagbard_celine]

Destroy the useless eaters with war and GM doomsday crops and then have the earth to themselves with an army of selected slaves who have already been chosen and brainwashed

I wonder who paid for the construction?

That's a good line of research.

Did you see Project Camelot's interview with that Norweigian politician? In Nroway they'rer aparently building a base for the Elite to hide safe and sound while the rest of us face the music.:mad::rolleyes: The seed vault may be, as you say, for them to use for their farms aftert the cataclysm.

[hagbard_celine]

Where is the proof that Nibiru really exist, should i belive in the great youtube videos? Which are done by same kind of yerks that did http://www.projectcamelot.org/norway.html this page?
I want proofs, no theorys, hard nailed proofs, no blah blah. No other dimensional mega planets that are not visible because they are infra red, and so on and so on.
Well, maybe they planing shit with us, i say like most of you the NWO is real and some stuff is really strange. I also would be agree, if there is something happening at 2012, that involves a planet like Niburu, we survive that, as we did 26000 years ago did. So, what now. If you are the president of the world, would you tell the people that something really ugly will happen in 4 years, please call out anarchy, kill robb fuck yourself you are dead anyway in 4 years?
Ok another thing would be, they digg great bunkers for all of us, and not for elite only, but how could that be possible without inform the people and they get crazy and ran amok?


What kind of evidence could we get though? Documents? Secret books? No way! Eye-witness testimony is all we're ever going to get. But sometimers these testimoneies are corroborrated by other witnesses who are unconnected and that's what we have here. These bases do exist, other wise why do so many people keep reporting them?

[notthisshitagain]

That's a good line of research.

Did you see Project Camelot's interview with that Norweigian politician? In Nroway they'rer aparently building a base for the Elite to hide safe and sound while the rest of us face the music.:mad::rolleyes: The seed vault may be, as you say, for them to use for their farms aftert the cataclysm.

I did read that interview with the Norwegian politician.. and I really do hope that what he said is just bullshit, cause if it turns out to be real.. well, aren't we all screwed =P

[pandamania]

That seed vault is nothing but a typical neo-hippy feelgood phony eco farce to make Norway look "progressive" when it just makes them look stupid.

It's all part of the phoney Hollwood-driven Al Gore wankery and should be seen as nothing more that dumb affluent white folks trying to out smug each other. The Norweigians have just taken it to idiotic extremes.

I was bursting my shite laughing at the opening ceremony with all its weird secular-spiritual overtones and self- satisfied goofy grins from the usual Global Warming brigade while a boy soprano sang the "Song of the Earth" with a silly lightshow. It was like Eurovision meets Gardeners World - pointless, decadent, stupid and instantly forgettable.

If the thing and the muppets behind it ever 'saves the earth' then we should not be allowed to exist in the first place.

[seanie]

I was bursting my shite laughing

you from ireland

[hagbard_celine]

That seed vault is nothing but a typical neo-hippy feelgood phony eco farce to make Norway look "progressive" when it just makes them look stupid.

It's all part of the phoney Hollwood-driven Al Gore wankery and should be seen as nothing more that dumb affluent white folks trying to out smug each other. The Norweigians have just taken it to idiotic extremes.

I was bursting my shite laughing at the opening ceremony with all its weird secular-spiritual overtones and self- satisfied goofy grins from the usual Global Warming brigade while a boy soprano sang the "Song of the Earth" with a silly lightshow. It was like Eurovision meets Gardeners World - pointless, decadent, stupid and instantly forgettable.

If the thing and the muppets behind it ever 'saves the earth' then we should not be allowed to exist in the first place.

:D:D:D I love the way you put it. If you are Irish then you've kissed the Blarney Stone! You should be a comedian!

Yes, there is an element of trendy-greenery about it. I'm sure it does operate on that putrid idea on one level. Probably most of the people invoved in it think that way, but there may well be a deeper purpose to it that only an initiated elite know about.

[hagbard_celine]

There's more on the vault here:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529

[entrangermercenary]

It's important to point out that two separate sources have alerted us to a key element pertaining to the above: namely the likelihood that Australia will be a relatively safe zone from which rescue and recovery efforts will be launched planet wide.

Danger zones will be the east and west coasts of North America and south and central England. It is for this reason that the UK authorities have allowed such a large-scale influx of immigrants in recent years, most have congregated where there are better employment opportunities – in south and central England.

In essence, individuals in key positions have enabled immigration policies that have quietly encouraged a massive influx of immigrants: so as to pack them into a critical danger zone and thereby effectively sacrifice as many people as possible.

It also explains why the Bush family and Sun Moon have bought extensive tracts of land in Northern Paraguay, another relatively safe zone.

Thats me fooked then (pmsl) pack them immigrants in:rolleyes: As I type im booking flights for Filedelfia.But if im wrong will I know about it.

[jesta_g]

The earth is doomed you say? Then the seed vault will be useless to us. Why are you mob fearing? If something "big" is upon us, then my chances of survivng in this physical body is probably zero. And I wouldn't wanna be here if the sun and moon is covered with nuclear/volcanic cloud dust. Try growing seeds above the ground without the sun / moon and no electricity.

Doomsday vault, pppfffftttt!

pppffffttttt! exactly. There was a very interesting thing george green said in his project camelot video, he mentions that the underground bases have their faults and apparently have no spare parts(i think im quoting him correctly) this meaning that once they down there and say an air vent blows then they doomed in their doomsday vaults . There is indeed something dodgy about them tho.

[cleopatraxxx]

Originally Posted by gold
Maybe he's there to stop the ppppenguins getting in
..more like it's to keep the rabbits out. (aussie humour)

u hhave just made my day! LOL

loved both, the pppenguins and wabbits! :)

and actually two hours after reading as usual this websites content and all the latest events of wars and all the stuff we are used to here,

it stroke me:
1. either planet X/nibiru with Annunaki in it to consume us as chicken
or
2. the illuminati/one world government and their microchipping
or 3. WW3 and the nuclear consequences

either we have only one thing to do!
guess what?
....







live it in full, loving all that is that surrounds us (trees, birds, cats and dogs) , dedicate our thoughts to our kids and loved ones AS IF IT WERE OUR LASTDAY OF LIFE TOGETHER, and guess what? forget worrying about doomsday, when it will come, onlu a few will survive if any, so when it comes, the transition to another dimension, back home in spirit, we will all leave a bit happier, knowing we respected life the way we could, we werent guilty for the greed of just a few and contributed to making some living beings life a bit happier with just a SMILE.

Laughter, positive thoughts are the only good that make us truly LIVE

lets LIVE the best way we can RIGHT NOW... harms no one and makes everyone a bit happier


XXX
Cleo

[real6]

Where is the proof that Nibiru really exist, should i belive in the great youtube videos? Which are done by same kind of yerks that did http://www.projectcamelot.org/norway.html this page?
I want proofs, no theorys, hard nailed proofs, no blah blah. No other dimensional mega planets that are not visible because they are infra red, and so on and so on.
Well, maybe they planing shit with us, i say like most of you the NWO is real and some stuff is really strange. I also would be agree, if there is something happening at 2012, that involves a planet like Niburu, we survive that, as we did 26000 years ago did. So, what now. If you are the president of the world, would you tell the people that something really ugly will happen in 4 years, please call out anarchy, kill robb fuck yourself you are dead anyway in 4 years?
Ok another thing would be, they digg great bunkers for all of us, and not for elite only, but how could that be possible without inform the people and they get crazy and ran amok?


http://xfacts.com/x.htm



Nibiru, to the Babylonians, was the celestial body associated with the god Marduk. The name is Akkadian and means 'crossing place' or 'place of transition'. The term "Nibiru" comes from the Sumerian cuneiform tablets and writings dating 5,000 years old. The term Nibiru means "Planet of the crossing". Please note that the two cultures that have never meet, and lived so far apart, both speak of a 'planet' and 'Crossing' in common.

According to proponents such as renowned historian, Hebrew scholar, author, speaker and archaeologist Zecharia Sitchin and Burak Eldem the Nibiru appearing in Sumerian records correctly refers to a large planetary body. Their research proposes that it possesses a highly elliptical, 3630-year orbit. Such a planet would be approximately in the same orbit as 2000 CR105.

For those of you that don't know what 2000 CR105 is, 2000 CR105, is the fourth most distant known object in the solar system after Eris, 2000 OO67 and Sedna, and is counted as a scattered disc object. It circles the sun in a highly eccentric orbit every 3240 years at an average distance of 219 astronomical units (1 AU being about equal to the mean Earth-Sun distance: roughly 150 gigametres).

2000 CR105 is important because, 2000 unlike other scattered disc objects in that at their perihelion distances, they are not within the gravitational influence of the planet Neptune. It is something of a mystery how these objects came to be in their current far-flung orbits. One hypothesis posits that they were pulled from their original positions by a passing star or a very distant and as-yet-undiscovered (albeit unlikely) giant planet. Unlikely or not, that hypothesis might just be the smoking gun for the Nibiru supporters.

Nibiru might have a hidden allie! Which would help fit into that hypothesis, and add fuel to the fire. Muller's Nemesis theory is that our Sun has a companion star responsible for recurring episodes of wholesale death and destruction here on Earth. Nemesis is a is a common red dwarf star that would be visible through binoculars or a small telescope, if only we knew which of some 3,000 stars to look at. These are stars that have been cataloged, but their distances are not known.

If Nemesis is real, it could explaine the 'crossing' planet if its trapped between the two suns, and does a figure 8 between them, crossing from one to the other, 2000 CR105 orbits every 3240 years, so if Nibiru was just a little bit past it, and did orbit both stars, that could explaine the other few hurand years.

More proof on Nemesis and Nibiru can be found with Pluto. Seasonal change on Pluto is causing the planet to warm up even as it moves away from the Sun, according to two studies that also detected the first firm signs of weather on the tiny planet. Why would Pluto be warming up, unless it was getting closer to another sun, or near a large planet and the force of that planet's gravity tugging on it was causing the frection to heat the planet.

[duckingdafta]

does everyone still think this is a storage vault?..
what if..
It was actually a giant ship (ark) built with technologies Branson and Gates could use (wasn't there a famous wealthy high flyer like Branson go missing recently)... and this could do like in the film Wall-E and float around space like a station until they find another earth (babylon 5) ... all because the Holdron Collider missed it's target and they need to get out and quick!.

<<me thinks it's time to put the pipe down a bit :D

ps, I forgot to add... this is only for the rich and elite obviously..

[real6]

does everyone still think this is a storage vault?..
what if..
It was actually a giant ship (ark) built with technologies Branson and Gates could use (wasn't there a famous wealthy high flyer like Branson go missing recently)... and this could do like in the film Wall-E and float around space like a station until they find another earth (babylon 5) ... all because the Holdron Collider missed it's target and they need to get out and quick!.

<<me thinks it's time to put the pipe down a bit :D

Like the cartoon Titan AD or the movie Sky Captain in the world of tomorrow.

[lightworks]

ok interesteing..ill read this after..but just to echo...im sick also of hearing unsubsstantiated bollocks...

[duckingdafta]

ok interesteing..ill read this after..but just to echo...im sick also of hearing unsubsstantiated bollocks...

not heard that one.... 'Never Mind The Bollocks' is good though, listen to that one :D

[kriss_crow]

http://www.reuters.com/resources/pictures/galleries/Stories/633390984240625000/Previews/09_70.jpg

doesn't look very secure to me

You noticed the main entrance is just a bit above sea level?
quite odd, dont you think?
http://www.reuters.com/resources/pictures/galleries/Stories/633390984240625000/Previews/03_1.jpg

[real6]

Bump

[notthisshitagain]

what if..
It was actually a giant ship (ark) built with technologies Branson and Gates could use ... this is only for the rich and elite obviously..

Gates? As in, Bill Gates? Well I hope their ship "does not respond" and that they have to "Ctrl-Alt-Del":p

[endlessvista]

That seed vault is more to do with some decadent hippy earth nature religion than safeguarding our seed supply. The whole thing had these spooky theocratic overtones for start to finish. Pointless and typical of the Green agenda.

[duckingdafta]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/10/04/doomsday-bbc-bulletin-released-115875-20771919/

[guuna]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/10/04/doomsday-bbc-bulletin-released-115875-20771919/


It's nice to know that the beeb will still broadcast 'entertainment' in the event of a holocaust.

The end of the world is no excuse to miss an episode of STRICTLY COME DANCING.

[guuna]

does everyone still think this is a storage vault?..
what if..
It was actually a giant ship (ark) built with technologies Branson and Gates could use (wasn't there a famous wealthy high flyer like Branson go missing recently)... and this could do like in the film Wall-E and float around space like a station until they find another earth (babylon 5) ... all because the Holdron Collider missed it's target and they need to get out and quick!.

<<me thinks it's time to put the pipe down a bit :D

ps, I forgot to add... this is only for the rich and elite obviously..

Ya, Masons like Branson and Gates will be in a good position to survive any catastrophe, hence his interest in spaceflight Virgin Galactic and owning Small carribean islands etc.

while he's on his mega-yatch with his army of red jacket guards/ concubines like some capitalist Gaddaffi wannabe.

I'd better get down to the store and stock up on tuna/ tinfoil/ catfood and coffee.

[real6]

Ya, Masons like Branson and Gates will be in a good position to survive any catastrophe, hence his interest in spaceflight Virgin Galactic and owning Small carribean islands etc.

while he's on his mega-yatch with his army of red jacket guards/ concubines like some capitalist Gaddaffi wannabe.

I'd better get down to the store and stock up on tuna/ tinfoil/ catfood and coffee.

Seeds of Destruction!!!

[real6]

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=329915

http://ontario-geofish.blogspot.com/2008/02/svalbard-seed-vault-shakes-off.html


A powerful quake measuring 6.2 on the Richter scale has hit the Barents Sea south of the Arctic archipelago of Svalbard.

The archipelago's main settlement, Longyearbyen was not affected but there has been concern from overseas scientists that the area may not be stable.

Svalbard has been selected to host a secure vault to store millions of seeds needed to maintain global crop diversity.

International and national gene banks have shipped material to be stored at the vault that has been blasted into a mountainside.

Ola Westengen, the coordinator of operations at the Svalbard Global Seed Vault, has tried to alleviate fears and has pointed out that the vault was located far from the quake's epicentre.

Geologists at the seismology and earthquake centre NORSAR said the quake was the strongest to have hit Norway in recent times.


Magnitude 4.8 - SVALBARD REGION

2010 January 13 10:08:20 UTC

Earthquake Details
Magnitude 4.8
Date-Time

Location 76.940°N, 18.262°E
Depth 10 km (6.2 miles) set by location program
Region SVALBARD REGION
Distances 720 km (450 miles) N of Hammerfest, Norway
810 km (510 miles) N of Tromso, Norway
900 km (560 miles) ESE of Nord, Greenland
1920 km (1190 miles) N of OSLO, Norway
Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 11 km (6.8 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST= 77, Nph= 77, Dmin=266.4 km, Rmss=1.22 sec, Gp= 83°,
M-type=body wave magnitude (Mb), Version=7
Source

* USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)

Event ID us2010rkbt

[kblood]

Such an old thread back from the dead. Any news on the doomsday vault itself? I do think about it now and then.

[real6]

Such an old thread back from the dead. Any news on the doomsday vault itself? I do think about it now and then.

When i come into work tomorrow i'll do some looking. I usually like bumping the older threads people forget about. Sometimes it gives new life...

[kblood]

When i come into work tomorrow i'll do some looking. I usually like bumping the older threads people forget about. Sometimes it gives new life...

I did not mind it happening. I was positively surprised, because I am interested in this. Also doing so has even gotten its own term which some calls negative. Reviving it or something to do with necro-something. Thought it was a funny term, but did not see why it would be negative. I am the kind of person who tries to avoid throwing out anything at all :) I always see it as "maybe useful" at some later time as well.

I will come back tomorrow and hope you have found some news on this. Otherwise I might even look myself :) For now, time for bed.

[orderoutofchaos]

Sometimes i think about whats happening around the world and Svalbard pops into my head. Maybe Terrorism, Nwo and everythi ng else that is going on are diversions from a much bigger story, maybe something cataclysmic, that is coming soon. Its odd. Why would you build a seed vault unless you had evidence that the world is at risk. I think they know something we dont........

[real6]

I did not mind it happening. I was positively surprised, because I am interested in this. Also doing so has even gotten its own term which some calls negative. Reviving it or something to do with necro-something. Thought it was a funny term, but did not see why it would be negative. I am the kind of person who tries to avoid throwing out anything at all :) I always see it as "maybe useful" at some later time as well.

I will come back tomorrow and hope you have found some news on this. Otherwise I might even look myself :) For now, time for bed.

I hear you. Night night. Watch those sheep ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gEDUDmZkyc

[real6]

Youtube and all those social sites are blocked for me in work but i believe these should be different videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oji1NkU7UVQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXW_vzQppGI

http://www.regjeringen.no/en/dep/lmd/campain/svalbard-global-seed-vault/film-and-photo/film/svalbard-global-seed-vault-opening-cerem.html?id=547329

[sithnemesis]

http://www.regjeringen.no/upload/LMD/Vedlegg/bilder_illustrasjoner/LPB_Moon_Svalbard_b_540_f_LMD.jpg

http://www.futureforall.org/images/earth_vault.jpg

http://www.drybonesproject.com/blog/D08302_2.gif

[starstuff]

Hah! I like the way the Svalbard logo is one planet eclipsing another! "No no, nothing to see here, this isn't preparation for Planet X's return at all, pure coincidence with the logo..." :p

[real6]

Hah! I like the way the Svalbard logo is one planet eclipsing another! "No no, nothing to see here, this isn't preparation for Planet X's return at all, pure coincidence with the logo..." :p

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/SysselmanLogo.jpg

[subl1minal]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/SysselmanLogo.jpg

I'm guessing that's the highest parts of the world? haha

[neutrino]

wow, well they're definitely getting ready for sumthing big...

That's kinda the idea. :rolleyes:

[thenymph]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654&highlight=seed

Everybody should be keeping a supply of seeds as part of their own personal survival strategy.

http://www.veggiegardeningtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/Tomato-Seedlings.jpg

If everybody did.. these (http://www.croptrust.org/main/) fuckers wouldn't be having to burp you all.

So true.

[the apprentice]

http://www.projectcamelot.org/norway.html

this is a must read, looks like we are all doomed !!!!!!!!!

You can always come round mine for your last cuppa.

[the apprentice]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=654&highlight=seed

Everybody should be keeping a supply of seeds as part of their own personal survival strategy.

http://www.veggiegardeningtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/Tomato-Seedlings.jpg

If everybody did.. these (http://www.croptrust.org/main/) fuckers wouldn't be having to burp you all.

What if the lights went out :D

[iaintoff]

do you guys actually believe in planet X?

check this presentation out is pretty damning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_GeAy2MCzc


The CIA and the NSA have all located to denvor, neat the colardo mountains....hmmmm

[real6]

check this presentation out is pretty damning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_GeAy2MCzc


The CIA and the NSA have all located to denvor, neat the colardo mountains....hmmmm

Check this out for all your Denver mountain hideaways...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1218&highlight=denver+airport



Ancient Technology (Part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mHe211mLV0


Ancient Technology (Part 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e92s-Rfh4CI


Ancient Technology (Part 3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD8gbKIRpj0

[gods sun]

what about pot seeds :)

[iaintoff]

thanks real

do you believe that there is going to be a diaster and that all this prep...

[real6]

thanks real

do you believe that there is going to be a diaster and that all this prep...

Anytime :)

Honestly, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I really don't know what to think about anymore :(

2012, is Nibiru really coming or does the Mayan calendar say it's the end/beginning of a new age? 'The age of aquarius'

For one thing, the governments (mostly the rich that really run the world) are scrambling right now because they are old rich people that don't think like us young people. They only care for their money and wealth and treasures and want to see us all suffer. They want to kill as many people off as possible. That's why all these laws/rules are happening so fast all of a sudden. Even with wars, they don't care anymore. Look at the middle east. Just there for the oil and opiates.

And as far as deforestation, stealing the oil from it's mother, gold, platinum, silver, natural resources, etc etc is just making it 1000 times worse for us.

Plus all the disinformation out there. So much stuff is going on now you don't even know what to believe anymore. What's real? What's fake? Who really knows? Is this an illusion/matrix type pulled over our eyes or is this world hell or heaven? Is there a god or is it made up like the bible. A book that a man wrote?
Did we come from monkeys or did we come from another planet?

Are we all from one race of man? From Afrika or do the whites make you believe we came from there when clearly people from the middle east and around those parts were dark skinned?

So many questions, too little answers.

But i will say this, i'm tired, very tired.

I'm to the point where i just want to go to some remote hills far away in South America, have some babies with some beautiful women and live my life with what time we have left. Live off the land. Raise my own little farm, grow my own vegetables, my own water, everything natural and live off the land. Even if i don't know what i'm doing, i'll make sure i learn fast. Just so i don't give a fuck about the outside world. But till then, i'm stuck on stupid in the rotten apple fighting for my causes weather i think i'm right and everyone knows i'm wrong.

Sorry for the ramble :P

[655321]

They should only store Monsanto seeds.

[iaintoff]

Anytime :)

Honestly, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I really don't know what to think about anymore :(

2012, is Nibiru really coming or does the Mayan calendar say it's the end/beginning of a new age? 'The age of aquarius'

For one thing, the governments (mostly the rich that really run the world) are scrambling right now because they are old rich people that don't think like us young people. They only care for their money and wealth and treasures and want to see us all suffer. They want to kill as many people off as possible. That's why all these laws/rules are happening so fast all of a sudden. Even with wars, they don't care anymore. Look at the middle east. Just there for the oil and opiates.

no i completely agree, i have spent my entire afternoon researching the quickest and best ways to get to high ground in the event of a diaster...crazy...

we all feel like you i guess hang in their buddy its like this:

we either die and then...whatever
we either live and its the same, or woese....woe
And as far as deforestation, stealing the oil from it's mother, gold, platinum, silver, natural resources, etc etc is just making it 1000 times worse for us.

Plus all the disinformation out there. So much stuff is going on now you don't even know what to believe anymore. What's real? What's fake? Who really knows? Is this an illusion/matrix type pulled over our eyes or is this world hell or heaven? Is there a god or is it made up like the bible. A book that a man wrote?
Did we come from monkeys or did we come from another planet?

Are we all from one race of man? From Afrika or do the whites make you believe we came from there when clearly people from the middle east and around those parts were dark skinned?

So many questions, too little answers.

But i will say this, i'm tired, very tired.

I'm to the point where i just want to go to some remote hills far away in South America, have some babies with some beautiful women and live my life with what time we have left. Live off the land. Raise my own little farm, grow my own vegetables, my own water, everything natural and live off the land. Even if i don't know what i'm doing, i'll make sure i learn fast. Just so i don't give a fuck about the outside world. But till then, i'm stuck on stupid in the rotten apple fighting for my causes weather i think i'm right and everyone knows i'm wrong.

Sorry for the ramble :P


no i completely agree, i have spent my entire afternoon researching the quickest and best ways to get to high ground in the event of a diaster...crazy...

we all feel like you i guess hang in their buddy its like this:

we either die and then...whatever
we either live and its the same, or worse....it gets worse
or we evolve into a higher consciousness and become very gay (happy)


but lets stick to the facts and the wealth of evidence:


the rich and famous are deffo running to the hills and by the time your sure thats there's a diaster, martial law will have us all on lock down, gridlocked, anarchy, looting... so the higher ground thoery would have to be shelved...

unless of course your prepared to head for the mountains before the anarchy starts, its all a question of whether your prepared to look like a fool if the shit turns out to be a pile of shit...:o

[real6]

no i completely agree, i have spent my entire afternoon researching the quickest and best ways to get to high ground in the event of a diaster...crazy...

we all feel like you i guess hang in their buddy its like this:

we either die and then...whatever
we either live and its the same, or worse....it gets worse
or we evolve into a higher consciousness and become very gay (happy)


but lets stick to the facts and the wealth of evidence:


the rich and famous are deffo running to the hills and by the time your sure thats there's a diaster, martial law will have us all on lock down, gridlocked, anarchy, looting... so the higher ground thoery would have to be shelved...

unless of course your prepared to head for the mountains before the anarchy starts, its all a question of whether your prepared to look like a fool if the shit turns out to be a pile of shit...:o

Trust me weather we are black, red, yellow, white, green, we are all in this shit together. I hate when people play race card. It's 2010 and you fucking people (not you) in general that were born close minded are fucking arguing about someones color?!?!?!?!?
That shit is so stupid.

I've always wanted to do something along the lines of Harrison Ford's character in the movie Mosquito Coast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mosquito_Coast

Alot of us are poor or middle income, so when the shit does hit the fan and it will, what do you have to barder with? Money is not going to mean shit soon anyway.

But high ground would be the best place. Somewhere inland which is dense in jungle/vegetation.

I feel you on the martial law aspect. Thats why i want to save now and just go to South AM. i believe that might be the only free place left earth has (For Now) that you could be happy. Away from populations and big cities. A small town would be nice in the hills.

If i was prepared? Hmmmm, sadly im not. I mean in my mind i am, supplies, not even close. No food, no water...nothing. I mean i could go buy now, but in this populus city it would not be worth it. Our doors would be knocked down by soldiers or your neighbors or anyone looking to steal what little you have in a time of crisis. Unless you flee now!!!

THen i can be gay with all my women all i want mauhahahahaha :D

Just a very tricky situation, you know...

[real6]

They should only store Monsanto seeds.

Ha, that would be pure jokes!!!!!

[real6]

Interior footage Seed Vault

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML8eUfZi4ic

[iaintoff]

Interior footage Seed Vault

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML8eUfZi4ic


Interesting...

Your lucky, is there any border restrictions btween America and the south (one hell of a treck)...


Your lucky, i'm in the noth of england, highest point here is Ben Nevis, bowt three hours drive away, but at 4,567 feet (just over a mile) i dont think that will be high enough...

the only other place is in spain, so would have to make a major committment...

whether they try to hide it or not, if the cataclysm is real then the magnetic field of the earth could easily generate a wave of around 5000 ft and travelling at aroung 500mph that covers a mile in 0.5 seconds...

but i think it will get to the point where they wont be able to hide it, it will be just that obvious coz of the changes in the environement, chemtrails can only do so much

but reching high ground is not just enough, it will project you from the wave and possibly all the inner core activity (volcanoes earth quakes) but then you also have the debris that the coment/dark planet/death star will be dragging with it...It will be this debris that will cause the ELE.

Some argue that if the ancients could survive and left around drawings and warnings then surely we could, but the ancients were actually technologically advanced as you probs well know, maybe even more advanced....


sigh

[zooky]

Lucas has done some good work opening this up. As he says, "the one thing that stands out are the petroglyph's" from all over the world depicting the same swirl type drawings. Most of the drawings are from the same time period. So what did our ancestors see in the sky that could resemble this and do so much damage?

The one thing we can trust with all the disinformation out there, is our ancestors and they were saying something.

I also like what Lucas has done with the time line showing the sudden disappearance of past cultures on a repeated cycle, the next part of that cycle being now. So it is up to us all to find out what is coming and how to survive as our ancestors did, remember they did it without digging big underground bases.

We just have to work out what is going to happen, then we can make plans to surive.

Oppps posted in wrong thread lol... but still the same subject matter..

[iaintoff]

Lucas has done some good work opening this up. As he says, "the one thing that stands out are the petroglyph's" from all over the world depicting the same swirl type drawings. Most of the drawings are from the same time period. So what did our ancestors see in the sky that could resemble this and do so much damage?

The one thing we can trust with all the disinformation out there, is our ancestors and they were saying something.

I also like what Lucas has done with the time line showing the sudden disappearance of past cultures on a repeated cycle, the next part of that cycle being now. So it is up to us all to find out what is coming and how to survive as our ancestors did, remember they did it without digging big underground bases.

We just have to work out what is going to happen, then we can make plans to surive.

Oppps posted in wrong thread lol... but still the same subject matter..

the biggest problem with this idea is your presumption that we will fiqure it out in time.

by the time the trouble starts, and the earth starts to get shaky and people begin to panick then it marshall law and lockdown....
(thankfully the EU gives its members states (at present) free movement of people, freedom to work, freedom to claim benefits after 6 month etc of being in a state...etc


but you would need to be at your destination prior to the disaster to avoid the lockdown, and thats a pretty big gamble, in case it doesnt happen, but those hyroglyphs dont lie!!!! Nither do the actions of the powers that be


I'm from England, the idea would be to tell the family that i was going travelling around europe for six months starting from around june, then i would basically go to spain, try to find a job, live off the savings, enjoy the climate whilst reccying and making plans

if it turns out to be all crap then at least you would have had the adventure and could easily come home, but if the shit starts hitting the fan at around Nov, then where you rather be (christ, have i come this far that its a consideration):

YUP!!!!


i would go here:

Veleta or Pico de Veleta (spain)

http://www.passzwang.de/veletainhalteng.html

http://www.iberianature.com/material/veleta.html


Its in a warm climate, the mountain is easily accessible with a path all the way to the sumit...At 4566 feet about a mile above sea level (same as denver) there is a populated town...a very good sign....


the summit is over 4000 meters above sea level and is quite hospitable, and is easily accessable via pathway (lmao), thats nearly 3 miles above sea level...


the place as even got an old observotary close to the sumit, thermal tents, therma sleeping bags, army rations stove gas bottles...proper kit, proper dress...


Laughing...

[zooky]

Its not to far to go from the uk maybe I will see you there...

[mrindigo]

When I first learned of laboratory geneticists modifying the food we eat, I wondered how they could do that if there was a risk of irreparable destruction to the crops. Later I learned of the seed vault and it fit like a glove. I think the initial intentions behind it may be one of the only true bits of info told by the PTB, but I think it also doubled as a fail-safe should the experiments go completely wrong.

[iaintoff]

Its not to far to go from the uk maybe I will see you there...

maybe buddy...one things for sure, if the shit does hit the fan i'd rather be with peeps on here huddled on some fucking mountain side than in this corporate construct you call inkland

[largejack]

No it's not. It makes me wonder... "Doomsday Seed Vault" could mean two things: A vault to keep seeds in in case there's a doomsday, or a vault that contains some "seed-like" thing that causes a doomsday. Which is it?:(:confused:

I don't know celine, but I don't like the sound of either choice, but if I had to pick it would be the former option! ;)

[zooky]

maybe buddy...one things for sure, if the shit does hit the fan i'd rather be with peeps on here huddled on some fucking mountain side than in this corporate construct you call inkland

I could not agree more...:D

[martg]

When I first learned of laboratory geneticists modifying the food we eat, I wondered how they could do that if there was a risk of irreparable destruction to the crops. Later I learned of the seed vault and it fit like a glove. I think the initial intentions behind it may be one of the only true bits of info told by the PTB, but I think it also doubled as a fail-safe should the experiments go completely wrong.


My thoughts exactly, they know about the problem of cross contamination of GM crops, and i think the seeds are for growing non contaminated food for those at the top.

[decim]

All I get on that link is photo's
Inside Canada

?

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?collectionId=1591&galleryName=News#a=1

[mrindigo]

My thoughts exactly, they know about the problem of cross contamination of GM crops, and i think the seeds are for growing non contaminated food for those at the top.

I agree, that seems like the more likely reason behind it.

[real6]

Svalbard Global Seed Vault receives third seed deposit from SeedSavers

http://www.decorahnewspapers.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=13&ArticleID=22027

A third deposit of Seed Savers Exchange (SSE) heirloom seeds has been deposited safely into the Svalbard Global Seed Vault in Norway.

Acting SSE President and Executive Director Aaron Whaley confirmed that Seed Savers Exchange has carefully selected and sent a total of 1,389 open pollinated varieties to the Svalbard Global Seed Vault since it opened in February 2008. SSE's recent deposit will help push the total number of accessions held at Svalbard to over 500,000.

"Even though Seed Savers' share represents only a small portion of the total deposits at Svalbard, the organization's contribution is unique because the heirloom varieties are mostly seeds conserved by home gardeners," said Whaley.

"Here is a small sampling of the varieties in the most recent deposit: Bean-Blue Boy, Cucumber-Spring of Water, Cowpea-Tight Red, Ground Cherry-New Hanover, Melon-Plum Granny, Pepper-Jimmy's Little White Hots, Pumpkin-Algonquian, Tomato-German Pink, and Watermelon-Arikara.

"It is very reassuring to know that all of these varieties are in the vault for safekeeping," Whaley said. "It is especially moving for me to see that the German Pink Tomato has made its way back across the Atlantic."

The German Pink Tomato was brought to America in 1883 by Whaley's maternal great-great grandparents Michael Ott and Margaret Ertle from Dreuschendorf, Germany, and has been grown every summer by the family. In fact, German Pink was one of the two original varieties that inspired the founding of Seed Savers Exchange in 1975 by Whaley's parents.

Whaley added, "Seed banks are one of the great ways to safeguard seeds; the other is to have the seeds growing in gardens far and wide."

Members of the Seed Savers Exchange can gain access to the same seeds deposited in Svalbard through the annual 500-page "Yearbook" that is distributed to SSE's 12,500 members. The "Yearbook" - listing 13,263 unique varieties- serves as a networking tool linking members in sharing varieties with one another. Over the past 35 years, members have shared hundreds of thousands of varieties.

About Svalbard

The Svalbard Global Seed Vault functions like the ultimate safety deposit box for biodiversity and global food supply preservation, storing duplicate collections of seeds on behalf of gene banks from around the world. The Svalbard Global Seed Vault offers protection against permanent loss due to natural disasters, wars, equipment failures, accidents and loss of funding that can plague even the best gene banks. As a service to the world community, the government of Norway paid for completing the Svalbard Global Seed Vault's construction. The Global Crop Diversity Trust and the government of Norway are financing its operating costs. The Svalbard Global Seed Vault is managed by the Nordic Gene Bank (NordGen) under a tripartite agreement between the government of Norway, the Global Crop Diversity Trust, and NordGen. Storage of seed in the Svalbard Global Seed Vault is free of charge.

Located 78 degrees north, far above mainland Norway, three vault rooms have been carved inside a mountain, down a 125-yard tunnel chiseled out of solid stone. Naturally cold, the Svalbard Global Seed Vault is further cooled to below -2 degrees Fahrnheit. At this temperature, seeds can be stored safely for decades-even if the earth warms or power goes out. The Svalbard Global Seed Vault has the capacity to store 4.5 million different seed sampes (each sample containing about 500 seeds) potentially from 1,400 gene banks in more than 100 countries. The Seed Vault will soon house and securee the world's largest collection of seeds, including many varieties no longer grown by farmers or gardeners.

For more information on the work of the Seed Savers Exchange, please visit www.seedsavers.org

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'Doomsday' Seed Vault Stores 500,000 Crops

A mold-resistant bean, a German pink tomato and a wild strawberry plucked from the flanks of a Russian volcano are just some of the crops whose seeds are being tucked away this week in a giant vault dug out of a mountainside of the Norwegian island Svalbard.

With these new deposits, the so-called Svalbard "Doomsday" Global Seed Vault will reach its half-million mark of seed varieties. The giant icebox of sorts, which was officially opened on Feb. 26, 2008, is meant to protect the world's crop diversity from natural or manmade disasters.

"Reaching the half million mark brings mixed emotions, because while it shows that the vault at Svalbard is now the gold standard for diversity, it comes at a time when our agriculture systems are really sitting on a knife's edge," said Cary Fowler, executive director of the Global Crop Diversity Trust, which partners with the Norwegian government and the Nordic Genetic Resource Center in Sweden in operating the vault.

Fowler added, "If crops and agriculture don't adapt to climate change, neither will humanity."

Giant icebox

The Vault is dug into the Platåberget mountain, which means "plateau mountain," and is located near the village of Longyearbyen, Svalbard - a group of islands north of mainland Norway. The arctic permafrost offers natural freezing for the seeds, while additional cooling brings the temperatures down to minus 0.4 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 18 degrees Celsius).

And if the mountain of snow enshrouding the storage rooms isn't enough protection, what better body guard than one of nature's biggest beasts.

"The region on Svalbard surrounding the Seed Vault is remote, severe, and inhabited by polar bears," according to the Global Crop Diversity Trust, which helps to support the vault's operations.

The preciousness of such seeds is reflected in the inaccessible nature of the vault. "Anyone seeking access to the seeds themselves will have to pass through four locked doors: the heavy steel entrance doors, a second door approximately 115 meters down the tunnel and finally the two keyed air-locked doors," the Trust writes. "Keys are coded to allow access to different levels of the facility. Not all keys unlock all doors."

Seeds: not just for a rainy day

Like all seeds coming to the vault, the new ones are duplicates of those from other collections. Material directly acquired by plant breeders to develop disease-resistant and "climate-ready" crops, and to meet the challenge of rapidly growing populations, is maintained by genebanks, not the seed vault.

"Svalbard is a fail-safe backup to be used whenever a depositing seed bank loses part or all of its collection, but we should focus equally on averting the disasters in the first place," Fowler said.

Other seeds shipped to the doomsday vault include: semi-dwarf wheat and rice from the early 1960s; disease-resistant soybeans; and the German pink tomato, a hardy sweet-flavored tomato transported to Iowa in 1883 by a Bavarian immigrant.

"We're seeing in several of the soybean varieties intriguing traits that could allow farmers to confront such problems as drought or extreme heat, shorter or longer growing seasons, or higher levels of CO2 [carbon dioxide]," said Dave Ellis, curator at the U.S. Department of Agriculture, National Center for Genetic Resources Preservation.