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blackyblue
04-03-2012, 02:41 AM
"The smoke of Satan has entered the Sanctuary"
Pope Paul IV - 1963
"The cultic acts of Satanic pedophilia in the Catholic Church are considered by professionals to be the culmination of the rites of 'The Enthronement of the Fallen Archangel Lucifer' in the Vatican"
Fr. Malachi Martin - 1990
Los Angeles, Alta California - 5/10/2002 - (ACN) The contemporary state of apostasy in the Catholic Church was accurately predicted by the renown Jesuit Priest Malachi Martin in his 1996 book "Windswept House: A Vatican Novel". On page 492 of his book, Fr. Martin writes, "Suddenly it became unarguable that now during this papacy, the Roman Catholic organization carried a permanent presence of clerics who worshipped Satan and liked it; of bishops and priests who sodomized boys and each other; of nuns who performed the “Black Rites” of Wicca, and who lived in lesbian relationships . . . every day, including Sundays and Holy Days, acts of heresy and blasphemy and outrage and indifference were committed and permitted at holy Altars by men who had been called to be priests. Sacrilegious actions and rites were not only performed on Christ’s Altars, but had the connivance or at least the tacit permission of certain Cardinals, archbishops, and bishops. . . " Fr. Malachi Martin wrote this six years ago and today we are barely hearing in the news about Catholic priests being arrested for raping altar boys inside the confessionals and about Cardinals, such as Boston's Law and Los Angeles' Mahoney, covering up the crimes.

An eminent theologian and expert in the Catholic Church, Fr. Malachi Martin, writes that the apostasy of the Roman Catholic Church is a precondition for the end of time as we presently know it and for the second coming of Jesus Christ. Fr. Malachi Martin, a Vatican insider, studied Theology at Louvain where he received doctorates in Semitic Languages, Archeology and Oriental History. He also studied at Oxford and at Hebrew University in Jerusalem and served as Professor at the Vatican's Pontifical Biblical Institute. Fr. Malachi Martin was, in addition, a world recognized "Exorcist" and an expert in combating Satan and the practitioners of Demonology. He was also an expert in the Dead Sea Scrolls He served in the Vatican from 1958 to 1964 where he was a close associate of the renowned Jesuit Cardinal Augustin Bea and Pope John XXIII. Fr. Malachi Martin passed away on July 27, 1999.

Fr. Malachi Martin had for a long time maintained that Satanists had infiltrated the Vatican. Just before his death, Fr. Martin said that soon after the installation of Pope Paul VI in 1963, Vatican Satanists clandestinely installed "Lucifer" in a secret ceremony called "The Enthronement of the Fallen Archangel Lucifer". The ceremony was conducted at the St. Paul’s Chapel located within the Vatican. Pope Paul VI later wrote that ‘the smoke of Satan has entered the Sanctuary". Fr. Malachi Martin said that the incidence of Satanic pedophilia and its rites and practices was already documented among certain bishops and priests as widely dispersed as Turin, in Italy, and South Carolina, in the United States. He emphasised, "The systematic organizational links of the network,that had been established between certain clerical homosexual groups and Satanist covens had inordinate power and influence."

When we read the news headlines today concerning the evil acts of numerous Catholic priests and even bishops against children, we can not help think about what Fr. Malachi Martin prophesied six years ago. Fr. Martin also said that the "Third Secret of Fatima" concerned the apostasy of the Roman Catholic Church. He said that the essential message seems to be about Satanists lurking in the shadows, from the heart of the Vatican down to the local parishes, manipulating events and putting great effort to subvert the Roman Catholic Church. He said that these Satanists are in league with Zionists and what he called the “Universal Assembly”, a Masonic group of Western plutocrats and the Illuminati.

Fr. Malachi Martin also spoke about a shadowy evil character he described as the “Cardinal of Centurycity,” who bears a strange similarity to Cardinal Roger Mahoney of Los(t) Angeles. Presently, there is a growing tide of people calling for his resignation due to the Archdioceses cover-up of the Satanic homosexual pedophile crimes against children.

And where does Pope John Paul II stand in all of this? Pope John Paul II has stated that we are definitely in the end times. He says that "the signs are clear"! The Pope has expressed concerns that his successor will be "the final pope" and the "anti-pope". The anti-pope is a person who will betray true Catholicism and Christianity as part of a pact with "Lucifer" and a future world government.

http://www.aztlan.net/malachimartin.htm



How many more of those Priests are active Satan worshippors?





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blackyblue
04-03-2012, 02:45 AM
"He said that these Satanists are in league with Zionists and what he called the “Universal Assembly”, a Masonic group of Western plutocrats and the Illuminati".

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 02:48 AM
SICK!!!




AN EVIL paedophile who led a satanic cult has been found guilty of raping and sexually assaulting children.

Dog breeder Colin Batley, 48, wore a hooded robe for orgies at the house he shared with bisexual wife Elaine.

The group staged pagan sex parties in which victims were told they would be killed by assassins if they did not give in to his demands, Swansea crown court heard.

One 18-year-old woman who was raped at 11 by Batley, said: “Sex with him was a test and if I did not pass I would go to The Abyss.”

Another girl of 15 sobbed as she told the court said she was passed around like a “sex toy” among cult followers.

Batley was found guilty of 11 rapes, six sex assaults, ­indecency and having indecent images of children.

His wife, 47, and two women, who had moved with him from London to Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, were also found guilty of sex charges.

Sentencing is tomorrow.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sex-cult-leader-colin-batley-115310

bendoon
04-03-2012, 02:50 AM
"He said that these Satanists are in league with Zionists and what he called the “Universal Assembly”, a Masonic group of Western plutocrats and the Illuminati".

All peas in the same pod, they blame Christians for all the problems in the world when it is them, they have also infiltrated the Churches.

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 02:51 AM
The jury in the trial of five people accused of using a black magic influenced cult to sexually abuse children and young adults in Carmarthenshire has found five defendents guilty of 39 serious sex offences.
At Swansea Crown Court, alleged cult leader Colin Batley, 48, was found guilty of 27 offences - including rape, buggery, indecency wih children and causing prostitution.

His wife, Elaine Batley, 47, was convicted of 5 offences, incuding indececy with a child and indecent assault.

Shelly Millar, 35, was convicted of two counts of indecency with children.

Jackie Marling, Batley's lover, was convicted of five offences - including aiding and abeiting rape and indecency with a child.

Peter Murphy QC, prosecuting, has alleged the four established their own religion - which preached free sex and was influenced by notorious English occultist Aleister Crowley.

The prosecution case is that the sex was established in members' homes in the tranquil Cararthenshire town of Kidwelly and children and young adults brought there were abused.


http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/2011/03/five-wales-satanists-guilty-of-extreme.html

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 02:52 AM
"was influenced by notorious English occultist Aleister Crowley"

octopusrex
04-03-2012, 02:55 AM
Shit has been going on for centuries.
Have you forgotten the Borgia already?

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 02:58 AM
Satanist John Katehis found guilty of murdering WABC


"google, John Katehis"

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2FTZDoRlDkE/TMAdPWIHdeI/AAAAAAAAAAQ/KlZxQt7ngPU/s1600/Katehis1.jpg

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:01 AM
Shit has been going on for centuries.
Have you forgotten the Borgia already?

The net is full of this shit!

It does not come up in normal searches though..i done an advanced search searching for certain words and boombaraboom, Reports of Satanic cults being found guilty of, mass murdering children, peadophilia, infiltrating churches and priesthoods, found guilty of ritualistic abuse and murder, its happening

All those cases are cases of active Satanists commiting horrific crimes and being found guilty

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:02 AM
Love the name of the website you listed:

RELIGION and child abuse...

Here is a list of books that they recommend:

http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/p/books-on-religion-and-cults.html

Which includes Richard Dawkins book called "God Delusion".

:)

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:04 AM
The net is full of this shit!

It does not come up in normal searches though..i done an advanced search searching for certain words and boombaraboom, Reports of Satanic cults being found guilty of, mass murdering children, peadophilia, infiltrating churches and priesthoods, found guilty of ritualistic abuse and murder, its happening

All those cases are cases of active Satanists commiting horrific crimes and being found guilty

When are you going to understand that they are not "infiltrating churches"?

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:04 AM
Love the name of the website you listed:

RELIGION and child abuse...

Here is a list of books that they recommend:

http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/p/books-on-religion-and-cults.html

Which includes Richard Dawkins book called "God Delusion".

:)

And what about all the other links i posted of Satanic cults BEING FOUND GUILTY, in court charged with peadophilia, murder, and Satanic ritual abuse?:?

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:05 AM
When are you going to understand that they are not "infiltrating churches"?

When are you going to learn to read?

I thought you disliked peadophiles?

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:07 AM
And what about all the other links i posted of Satanic cults BEING FOUND GUILTY, in court charged with peadophilia, murder, and Satanic ritual abuse?:?

What about them? I wasn't denying it. I was just pointing out their library for books to read about it. :)

Did you notice that the title of the website is RELIGION and CHILD ABUSE?

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:08 AM
When are you going to learn to read?

I thought you disliked peadophiles?

I do dislike pedophiles, you are missing the point...the link that you gave is

RELIGION and child abuse.

http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/p/books-on-religion-and-cults.html

Weren't you DEFENDING religion just yesterday or the day before?


"Alabama pastor arrested on charges of aggravated child abuse and sexual torture of 12 year old boy


WSFA 12 News - Montgomery, Alabama March 25, 2011

Montgomery church employee arrested for sexual torture and child abuse

by JoBeth Davis, Community Web Producer

MONTGOMERY, AL (WSFA) - A former Montgomery church employee and author has been arrested on accusations of child abuse and sexual torture."

http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/2011/03/alabama-pastor-arrested-on-charges-of.html

When I made a thread about Christianity (a RELIGION) and child abuse, I was told that I was hating on Christians...

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:10 AM
According to Russia’s secret services, including FSB, there are about 15 Satanist sects in the city of Moscow alone.

The largest of them, “The Black Angel,” was formed in 1974-1975 in Moscow and in Tver, a city located some 200km north-west from Moscow. Satanism is believed to have spread to all large cities of the former Soviet Union in 1970s. Sizeable Satanist groups emerged in early 1980s.

The groups are formed by strict 5-grade hierarchy crowned by the “council,” the supreme agency. Women are said to frequently occupy the upper seats. According to NTV television channel, Satan followers may number several thousands in Russia. Of late, crime-tainted sects have displayed an elevated activity, according to law-enforcement bodies statistics. They penetrate into colleges and other higher-educational institutions, eagerly give interviews.

Gathering venues of Satanists are well known – a temple of sorts in Moscow’s northern Medvedkovo district, a kind of a base in the outskirts of Moscow, a cafe in the centre of Moscow, a construction site near the Bolshoi Theatre, and even Lubyanskaya Square where the feared KGB building is located.

On July 28th, 1999, the criminal police of Moscow’s Western Administrative District detained 2 Satanist sect members suspected of setting the great martyr princess Elizabeth chapel on fire in the night of October 8th, 1988 in Rublevo, near Moscow. The detained Satanists were youngsters of 18, and they viewed their act rather as a kind of game played with their fellow-“protesters.”

Satanists have largely fallen out of the focus of Soviet and then Russian secret services’ attention. But now, especially after a series of ritual murders it is high time to come to grips with the problem.

http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:11 AM
A couple who claimed to be vampires and killed a man by stabbing him more than 60 times in a satanic ritual were convicted of murder yesterday.

Daniel Ruda, 26, a former car-parts salesman, and his wife, Manuela, 23, were sentenced to 15 years and 13 years respectively in a secure psychiatric hospital, but the judge in the western German town of Bochum said the possibility that they could kill again meant they might never be released.

The pair had confessed to killing the man in their apartment surrounded by human skulls, cemetery lights, scalpels and incense ­ because the Devil ordered them to do so.

It was a particularly gruesome killing. The victim, Frank Hackerts 33, who was apparently chosen by the Rudas as their victim because of his love of the Beatles, was hit over the head with a hammer, stabbed 66 times and had a pentagram carved into his chest. The Rudas say they then drank his blood and slept together in a coffin they kept at their flat.

Manuela Ruda told the court: "We were not alone ­ there was a presence there, a powerful force." She said her husband had "terrible, glowing eyes" as he stood up before delivering the first hammer blow.

Manuela claimed she was first drawn to satanism during a visit to Britain. She told the court she drifted into the "gothic" scene after the Devil contacted her when she was 14. At 16, bored by her life in the small German town of Witten, she travelled to the Scottish Highlands where she worked in a hotel for a few months and enjoyed the emptiness, the cemeteries and gloomy atmosphere of the low clouds, she said. She spent time living in a cave on the Isle of Skye with Tom Leppard, a heavily tattooed 62-year-old man .

In London she worked in a gothic club in Islington where she claims to have joined a group who attended "bite parties" and worshipped the Devil. "We drank blood from living people," she told police. "We slept on graves. One time we dug a grave and I slept in it, just to see what it would feel like."

Manuela met Daniel Ruda after she returned to Germany and answered a lonely hearts advertisement in a heavy metal magazine. It read: "Black-haired vampire seeks princess of darkness who despises everything and everybody and has bidden farewell to life."

Throughout the trial the couple showed no remorse for the killing, maintaining that they had done Frank Hackerts a favour because he is now "beside Satan, the best place that he could be".

In the courtroom in Bochum the Rudas put on a daily show of defiantly provocative behaviour, including rude gestures, rolling their eyes manically and sticking their tongues out.

They claimed that because they were following the orders of the Devil, they could not be held responsible for murder. "If I kill a person with my car and half his bloody head is left on my bumpers, it is not the car that goes to jail," Daniel Ruda told the court, "it is the driver who is evil. I have nothing to repent, because I did nothing."

Psychiatric experts told the court that the couple were suffering from "severe narcissistic personality disturbances". As a result, the prosecution rejected calls for life sentences, arguing that the couple were mentally ill and could not be held wholly responsible for their actions. They are "not the monsters" depicted in the media, the prosecution said.

Passing sentence, Judge Arnjo Kerstingtombroke said: "This case was not about satanism but about a crime committed by two people with severe disorders. Nothing mystical or cult-like happened here; just simple, base murder."

He said the Rudas were not insane and had been fit enough to be tried, but that their pschiatric disorders were sufficient to stop him from handing down life sentences ­ the standard punishment for premeditated killing. The judge also said so much fan mail had been sent to the Rudas during the case that he was worried about the "limitless stupidity" of many members of the public.

Both defendants sat quietly as the sentence was read out, Daniel staring at his victim's mother, Manuela chewing gum. The victim's father, Hermann Hackerts, was also in court, as he had been throughout the trial. He said: "At the beginning I did not want to go to the trial but now I'm glad that we sat eye to eye. Now I understand that they are bad people, but people not devils, and absolutely unsound of mind."

On Channel 4 News, Daniel Ruda's lawyer, Hans Reinhardt, said he believed the couple's claim of demonic possession was a cover. "I think he [Daniel] pretends to be an instrument of Satan because he is the sort of person who says, 'I am the best, I am the greatest'," Mr Reinhardt said.

Daniel's motive may have been celebrity, his lawyer said. "He says, 'I want to get on stage, I want that everybody knows me ... I want to be as famous as Charles Manson and so I have to kill someone'," Mr Reinhardt said.

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:12 AM
I do dislike pedophiles, you are missing the point...the link that you gave is

RELIGION and child abuse.

http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/p/books-on-religion-and-cults.html

Weren't you DEFENDING religion just yesterday or the day before?


"Alabama pastor arrested on charges of aggravated child abuse and sexual torture of 12 year old boy


WSFA 12 News - Montgomery, Alabama March 25, 2011

Montgomery church employee arrested for sexual torture and child abuse

by JoBeth Davis, Community Web Producer

MONTGOMERY, AL (WSFA) - A former Montgomery church employee and author has been arrested on accusations of child abuse and sexual torture."

http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/2011/03/alabama-pastor-arrested-on-charges-of.html

When I made a thread about Christianity (a RELIGION) and child abuse, I was told that I was hating on Christians...

And the other links?

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:13 AM
A 23-year-old Satanist jailed yesterday in Germany for a gruesome, ritual Satanic killing, said that she became a vampire in London.

In testimony which exposes the bizarre world of Britain's underground occult groups, Manuela Ruda said that she swapped the "mortal" world for a life of blood-drinking and devil worship after working in a club in London which she said was frequented by "vampires and human beings".

Ruda, who said she had sold her soul to the devil, recalled nightly visits to cemeteries, ruins and woods during her time in Britain.

She has also revealed that she toured Scotland where she visited Tom Leppard - the so-called Leopard Man of Skye who is covered head to toe with a leopard tattoo.

Ruda and her husband, Daniel, were found guilty at a court in Bochum, western Germany, of killing a 33-year-old man by hitting him with a hammer and stabbing him 66 times. After they had killed him, the couple drank his blood.

http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:14 AM
Here is another page from the link that you gave:

http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/2011/03/christian-dominionists-target-children.html


"2011-03-26
Christian dominionists target children between 4 and 14 as the most vulnerable to spiritual manipulation


God Discussion - March 23, 2011

Christian Dominionists Plan to Transform the World During "4/14 Window" by Focusing Prayers on Children

By God Discussion Reporter


A sect of Christian prayer warriors believe that there is a unique window to create a Christly kingdom on earth this coming April by focusing their efforts on children. According to the "4/14 Window Global Initiative" website, this "4-14 Window refers to the demographic group from age four to fourteen years old, which is the most open and receptive to every form of spiritual and developmental input."

Christian Domination of the Seven Mountains.

In its effort to raise up young followers of Christ, the 4/14 Window Global Initiative focuses on the "7 Mountains" ideology associated with what is loosely referred to as "Christian dominionism," a movement by New Apostolic Reformation, dominionist, reconstructionist and other forms of Christianity that believe that seven areas of world culture must be totally dominated and controlled by Christians so that Jesus Christ can return to earth and rule. While the ultimate focus is essentially the same, the exact verbiage of what constitutes the "7 Mountains" differs. The "7 Mountains" advocated by Shirley Dobson's National Day of Prayer Task Force are described as:

Government,
Military,
Media,
Business,
Education,
Church, and
Family.

In a chilling video essay about the goals of Christian dominionists and their 7 Mountains agenda, journalist Bruce Wilson observed that Mary Glazier, who leads the Wasilla, Alaska prayer group that Sarah Palin joined, advocates "religious cleansing of entire lands" by believers in her movement. She preaches that people will be "displaced" and "toppled" from various institutions and that the Christians will take over. As to each individual's disposition, she claims their fate lies with God but that they will have an opportunity to "switch allegiances" and join the dominionists.

The 4/14 Window Global Initiative believes that today's cultural mountains are not providing children with godly values. In particular, it takes issue with the media complaining in its newsletter that:

Harry Potter is a major media icon that influences children and adolescents through references to sorcery, witchcraft, spiritualist invocations, and the lack of a Christ centered dimension of life.

In turning children to Christ, the 4/14 Window Global Initiative has an intense focus on organizational hierarchy in order to achieve global transformation, decreeing in its draft covenant that,

Each Christian organization shall include in its plans, programs and budget, provisions for capacity building of regional, national and local churches for the equipping and mobilization of children and their families in the 4/14 window for holistic transformation of their respective communities, nations and regions.

Luis Bush, founder of the 4/14 Window Global Initiative, believes that the focus on the young should be a priority, declaring,

It is a plea to open your heart and mind to the idea of reaching and raising up a new generation from within that vast group—a generation that can experience personal transformation and can be mobilized as agents for transformation throughout the world. Our vision and hope is to maximize their transformational impact while they are young, and to mobilize them for continuing impact for the rest of their lives.

Fasting and Intercessory Prayer.

Generals International, a dominionist group run by Cindy and Mike Jacobs, described in a March 22 email alert what their followers should do on the 4/14 Window:

The key demographic for missions in this century is the 4 to 14 Window in the view of a growing number of God’s people around the world because the four to fourteen year old's are known of their responsiveness to the gospel as compared to other ages and because of the formation of their character in during these years and the especially because of the highest priority given to them by Jesus when He walked on this earth.
This is the time to open the 4/14 Window. Participants came from almost 80 nations in September of last year called to catalyze and facilitate the rescuing, reaching, and raising up of a new generation from the 4/14 Window to transform their nations and beyond.
Join the growing global 4/14 Movement to mobilize focused, fervent, united intercessory prayer of God’s people in every region of the world on April 14th for the Raising up of a New Generation from the 4/14 Window to transform the world.
Steps to take:
1. Set the objective of the fast. There would be a two-fold purpose related to the 4/14ers in the church, city, nation, region and world: First, as The Esther Fast we are fasting for protection of the 4/14ers and deliverance from the Evil One (Esther 4:16). Second, we are praying for the Raising up of a New Generation from the 4/14 Window in the local church, city and nation to transform their nations, regions and the world.
2. Set aside the 14th of April for a day of fasting and prayer. If you need to go to work or serve use the open times to seek God on behalf of the 4/14ers of you church, town or city, country, region and world.

Generals also recommends a 3-day "Esther Fast," proclaiming that, "We are following the example of Esther to the challenge by her Uncle Mordecai to call a three-day fast as an essential part of the 4/14 Window Day to Change the World. The story concludes with a transformed world."

Prayer Focus.

The 4/14 Window Global Initiative prayer guide is a 64-page pdf document that describes objectives that all people having a humanitarian worldview can agree with — the elimination of poverty, abuse, neglect, war and violence for the sake of children. However, the prayer guide departs from humanitarian views when it takes issue with other faiths that are perceived to be evil. For instance, the guide states that:

Eastern religions have created a generation in Asia with a vastly different worldview that the traditional Christian one. With no ideas of Creator-God, Sin and Redemption, Asia’s children and youth represent a challenging mission field.

The prayer guide was issued before Japan's earthquake and tsunami. As to Japan, it stated:

They can’t shame their families by financial failure — suicide seems like an honorable way out — and the fatalism of eastern religion offers no hope. Japan’s next generation is in desperate need.

Prayer points:
Hope. Japan has one of the highest suicide rates of any industrialized nation.
Authentic priorities. Recent economic troubles have threatened Japan’s materialist mindset, and youth are pressured to succeed.
Absolute Truth. Most people in Japan claim to be Buddhists or Shintoists, or both. But in fact, their worldview is very secular.
True success. Failure is viewed as shameful to the family … Japan’s children need to know true success is found in relationship with Jesus Christ.
Innovative strategies. That’s what it will take to breach the barriers of social Shintoism and secularism.

Islam and Hinduism (and the belief in reincarnation) are also a focus of the faith-transforming prayers.

Secular values in American education are to be targeted by prayer:

Schools. Public schools have increasingly become platforms for a values-neutral message that impedes education and denigrates Christianity.
Truth … 65% of young people in the United States don’t know which religion is true. They desperately need the love of the Savior.

The prayer guide discusses "post-modernization and secularism:"

Around the world, the next generation has been secularized by globalization — a global youth culture emphasizes relativism, and even young people in rural areas and traditionally “Christian” areas don’t grasp ideas of absolute truth or the importance of a relationship with God.

The ultimate goal of the 4/14 Window Global Initiative is to create child activists:

Christian children who are grounded in a biblical worldview are, themselves, amazingly equipped to reach their own generation.
Prayer points:
Perception. Believers must recognize the power of children as agents of change.
Families. One believing child in a family can lead the entire family to Christ!

Indoctrinating Children.

More young people are turning away from religion. In America, 72% of the Millennials say that they are spiritual, but not religious. The exodus of young people from the churches has prompted groups such as Child Evangelism Fellowship to target children at public parks, apartment complex common grounds, and schools. This group, like many others, has a huge international outreach program that focuses on children.

While helping children who are the victims of war, poverty, sex trafficking and abuse is a goal of these Christian outreaches, not everyone appreciates the proselytizing and indoctrination that takes place. They believe that teaching science and practical, factual knowledge that will enable children to grow up to be self reliant is a more humane approach to children's education. Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins views religious indoctrination of children, with its threats of eternal damnation in hell, as a form of child abuse.

Speaking at Oxford University in 1997, Dr. Nicholas Humphrey asked his Amnesty International audience, "What shall we tell the children?" He noted,

Should we be campaigning for the rights of human beings to be protected from verbal oppression and manipulation? Do we need "word laws", just as all civilised societies have gun laws, licensing who should be allowed to use them in what circumstances? Should there be Geneva protocols establishing what kinds of speech act count as crimes against humanity?
No. The answer, I'm sure, ought in general to be "No, don't even think of it." Freedom of speech is too precious a freedom to be meddled with. And however painful some of its consequences may sometimes be for some people, we should still as a matter of principle resist putting curbs on it. By all means we should try to make up for the harm that other people's words do, but not by censoring the words as such.
And, since I am so sure of this in general, and since I'd expect most of you to be so too, I shall probably shock you when I say it is the purpose of my lecture today to argue in one particular area just the opposite. To argue, in short, in favour of censorship, against freedom of expression, and to do so moreover in an area of life that has traditionally been regarded as sacrosanct.
I am talking about moral and religious education. And especially the education a child receives at home, where parents are allowed — even expected — to determine for their children what counts as truth and falsehood, right and wrong.
Children, I'll argue, have a human right not to have their minds crippled by exposure to other people's bad ideas — no matter who these other people are. Parents, correspondingly, have no god-given licence to enculturate their children in whatever ways they personally choose: no right to limit the horizons of their children's knowledge, to bring them up in an atmosphere of dogma and superstition, or to insist they follow the straight and narrow paths of their own faith.
In short, children have a right not to have their minds addled by nonsense. And we as a society have a duty to protect them from it. So we should no more allow parents to teach their children to believe, for example, in the literal truth of the Bible, or that the planets rule their lives, than we should allow parents to knock their children's teeth out or lock them in a dungeon.
That's the negative side of what I want to say. But there will be a positive side as well. If children have a right to be protected from false ideas, they have too a right to be succoured by the truth. And we as a society have a duty to provide it. Therefore we should feel as much obliged to pass on to our children the best scientific and philosophical understanding of the natural world — to teach, for example, the truths of evolution and cosmology, or the methods of rational analysis — as we already feel obliged to feed and shelter them.

This article was found at:

http://www.goddiscussion.com/43551/christian-dominionists-plan-to-transform-the-world-during-414-window-by-focusing-prayers-on-children/

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:14 AM
A WOMAN who says she and her husband killed a German friend with 66 knife wounds on orders from the devil has claimed that she became a satanist in Britain.

German police say any evidence pointing to possible crimes or an illegal satanic ring in Britain will be sent to the relevant authorities.

Manuela Ruda and her husband, Daniel, have admitted killing their friend, Frank Haagen, "for Satan". She said she got a taste for vampirism and the occult while in London and Scotland.

She appeared at the regional court in Bochum in full gothic garb, her head partly shaved to reveal an upside down crucifix and a target tattooed on her skull.

Mrs Ruda, 23, gave a chilling account of drinking blood from volunteers contacted on the internet. She said: "I was in England and Scotland, met people and vampires in London. We went out at night, to cemeteries, in ruins and in the woods.

"We drank blood together, from willing donors. You can't drink from the arteries, no-one is allowed that. I had implanted pegs put in the teeth which were pulled out and were replaced with fangs.

"I also slept on graves and even allowed myself to be buried in a grave to test the feeling. I signed over my soul to Satan two and a half years ago."

The couple have denied responsibility for killing Mr Haagen, 33, although both have admitted committing the crime.

Mrs Ruda told the court: "It was not murder. We are not murderers. It was the execution of an order. Satan ordered us to. We had to comply. It was not something bad. It simply had to be. We wanted to make sure that the victim suffered well."

Her husband compared himself and his wife to a vehicle involved in a fatal accident. "The car would not be charged," he said. "The driver is the bad guy. I have nothing to regret because I haven't done anything."

Mrs Ruda said she and her 26-year-old husband lured their victim to their flat. When they arrived a "strange force" and "other beings" were present.

"We were sitting on the couch the whole time, then my husband stood up," she said. "He had terrible, glowing eyes and hit out with the hammer.

"Frank stood up and said something, or wanted to say something. The knife was glowing and a voice told me: 'Stab him in the heart.'

"He then sank down. I saw a light flickering around him. That was the sign that his soul was going down. We said a satanic prayer.

"We were then exhausted, and alone, wanted to die ourselves. But the visitation was too short. We could no longer kill ourselves."

After killing Mr Haagen the couple cut an occult star on his stomach, drank his blood from a bowl and had sex in an oak coffin in which Mrs Ruda usually slept.

The couple were arrested in their flat, the walls of which were covered in satanic slogans and hung with an array of knives, axes and machetes.

Mr Haagen's mutilated and partially-decomposed body was found next to the coffin in the living room.

Dieter Justinsky, the public prosecutor, said: "I have never, ever seen such a picture of cruelty and depravity before. They simply had a lust for murder.

"Both believed in Satan, they worshipped him. A death list found in the flat contained the names of future victims. They drank his blood, slept in coffins and believed they would achieve immortality as vampires."

Several witnesses have testified that the couple suffered from personality disorders. They could both face long terms at secure psychiatric institutions.

The Rudas told police that they went to Britain twice, spending five months in Scotland in 1996 and visiting London in February 1997. The gothic phenomenon, an off-shoot of the punk scene, emerged in the late 1970s.

A spokesman for Bochum police said last night that any information relating to crimes in Britain would be passed to the relevant authorities.


http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:17 AM
BOCHUM, Germany (Reuters) - A bizarre murder by two Devil worshippers has highlighted a rise in Satanism in Germany, where one expert estimates there are up to 7,000 followers, many of them also adhering to Nazi ideology.

Daniel and Manuela Ruda, a married couple who were being sentenced on Thursday, confessed to killing a friend with a hammer and 66 knife stabs last July, saying the Devil had ordered them to kill.

Both have severe psychological disorders, psychiatrists told the court in the western town of Bochum.

Accounts of Manuela's bloodsucking habit and the ritual in which she and her husband killed their victim -- carving a pentagram, the sign of the devil, into his chest and leaving a scalpel protruding from his stomach -- have fascinated Germany and focused attention on Satanism.

``If you study Internet chat pages you can see that the Rudas enjoy cult status with kids,'' said Ingolf Christiansen, author of a book on Satanism and commissioner for ideological issues at the Lutheran Protestant Church in Hanover.

Christiansen said Satanism was more widespread in Britain and the United States than in Germany, where he estimates there are between 3,000 and 7,000 followers.

``That's a conservative estimate. I see a rising tendency. The Internet is helping to spread it. It is driven by increasing brutalization in all areas and a corresponding loss of values.''

Satanism -- which has no official structure and means different things to different people -- typically involves worshipping Satan, the Devil, and a travesty of Christian practices and symbols.

Many adherents see it as a form of social Darwinism rejecting religious norms and promoting the right of the strong to dominate the weak.

Its practice often involves ceremonies with sex and sacrifice to tap dark primal forces. Most Satanists reject moral codes, saying an individual must determine what is good or bad.

Modern forms of Satanism draw on a host of traditions, from ancient Egyptian mythology to Celtic cults and Haitian Voodoo.


http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:18 AM
And say WE HAD TO DO IT




Daniel Ruda sticks out his tongue in court yesterday after being sentenced to 15 years for the bizarre murder of a friend who was stabbed 66 times and hit with a hammer

TWO German devil-worshippers were sentenced to be detained in secure psychiatric hospitals yesterday for the ritual killing of a man they claimed to have sacrificed to Satan.

Manuela and Daniel Ruda chewed gum, flashed mocking grins and gave the devil's sign of a closed fist with extended thumb and little finger when their month-long trial ended.

The married couple showed the same lack of respect for Doris Hackert, the mother of their 33-year-old victim, and her husband Hermann as they did to the court during the trial. They had poked out their tongues, snarled at the judge and abused journalists and witnesses.

There was uproar in the court when Judge Arno Kersting-Tombroke sentenced Manuela to 13 years in a secure mental facility and Daniel to 15 years, despite the prosecution's request for a maximum security prison.

The judge described them as "deeply disturbed individuals", but believed that psychiatric help rather than prison was what they needed.

The trial produced numerous sordid references to sacrifices, both animal and human, and drew into sharp focus a growing and disturbing interest in the occult in Germany and Britain.

The Rudas had a fascination for the dark side that developed into an obsession with death and ultimately led to the killing of Frank Hackert, an unassuming car parts salesman, on an oak coffin before an altar of skulls.




The occult is growing in Germany with an estimated 6,000 devil worshippers, most of them linked by the Internet.

Manuela, who ran away from school at 16, claimed to have learned vampirism and animal sacrifices at underground clubs in London and Edinburgh. During the trial, Manuela told of filing her teeth down to razor sharpness and of drinking men's blood in exchange for sex.

Manuela, now 23, met Daniel Ruda when he advertised in a heavy metal magazine: "Prince of Darkness seeks vampire who hates everyone and everything."

She married Daniel (27) last June and they killed Mr Hackert the following month.

Manuela said: "We had to kill - we couldn't go to hell unless we did."


http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:19 AM
And the other links?

Yeah, those are interesting also.

http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/2011/06/nigerian-police-rescue-32-pregnant.html?showComment=1330702950479#c213481186 2044454789

Police and groups representing African communities have warned that ritualised abuse of children branded as witches is an under-reported and hidden crime in the UK, as a man and woman were convicted of murdering a 15-year-old boy because they believed he was a witch.

Eric Bikubi and Magalie Bamu, both 28, murdered Magalie's brother Kristy Bamu in their east London flat after violently abusing him for several days because they believed he was possessed by evil spirits.

Bikubi and Bamu also accused two of the teenager's sisters of witchcraft and were found guilty of causing actual bodily harm after abusing them for several days. The pair will be sentenced on Monday.

Over four days, Kristy, who was visiting his sister with his siblings from France for Christmas, was tortured with metal bars, a chisel, a hammer and a pair of pliers in a "prolonged attack of unspeakable savagery and brutality", the court heard.

In a victim impact statement Pierre Bamu, Kristy's father, said: "The fact that Kristy died at the hands of those who were expected to look after him and his siblings makes it all the more difficult for us to come to terms with."

He said the family had been betrayed over the killing of a "fine young man", adding: "We will never forget, but to put our lives back into sync we must forgive."

Speaking outside the Old Bailey, Detective Superintendent Terry Sharpe said the Met police had done a great deal of work to understand and deal with belief-based child abuse. "However, this is a hidden and under-reported crime and therefore difficult to deal with in terms of protecting potential victims from harm," he said.

Kristy's ordeal began soon after he arrived in London on 16 December 2010. Bikubi, a man he thought of as his uncle, accused him of witchcraft after he wet himself. He forced Kristy and two of his sisters who he also believed were witches – Kelly, 20, and their 11-year-old sister, who cannot be named – to pray, denying them food and sleep in an attempt to "remove the kindoki", the Lingala word for witchcraft.

Bikubi – helped and encouraged by Bamu – then focused on Kristy, using an "armoury of weapons". He beat the child with a metal bar used for weights, shoved a metal bar into the teenager's mouth, forced him to eat a screw and struck him with a hammer in the face, knocking out his teeth. Bamu also beat him, taking a pair of pliers and wrenching his ear.

On Christmas Day 2010, when Kristy was weakened due to the beatings, Bikubi forced the boy and his siblings into a bath to wash away the evil spirits. He doused them with water and, as the bath filled, Kristy was submerged and drowned.

When Kristy was found by paramedics in the eighth-floor flat in Forest Gate, his head, face, back and arms were covered in deep cuts and bruises, and several of his teeth were missing. Pathologist reports revealed he suffered 101 injuries and died as a result of drowning and the injuries.

Giving evidence through a French interpreter, Kelly said the pair were fixated on the idea that the three siblings were practising witchcraft. "It was as if they were obsessed by that and then it became absolutely unbearable," she told the court. "I repeated again and again and again that we were not witches that we had come there to spend Christmas as a family together. But I don't know what was going on in their minds. They decided we were there to kill them."

Police and groups representing African communities have warned that ritualised abuse of children branded as witches is an under-reported and hidden crime in the UK, as a man and woman were convicted of murdering a 15-year-old boy because they believed he was a witch.

Eric Bikubi and Magalie Bamu, both 28, murdered Magalie's brother Kristy Bamu in their east London flat after violently abusing him for several days because they believed he was possessed by evil spirits.

Bikubi and Bamu also accused two of the teenager's sisters of witchcraft and were found guilty of causing actual bodily harm after abusing them for several days. The pair will be sentenced on Monday.

Over four days, Kristy, who was visiting his sister with his siblings from France for Christmas, was tortured with metal bars, a chisel, a hammer and a pair of pliers in a "prolonged attack of unspeakable savagery and brutality", the court heard.

In a victim impact statement Pierre Bamu, Kristy's father, said: "The fact that Kristy died at the hands of those who were expected to look after him and his siblings makes it all the more difficult for us to come to terms with."

He said the family had been betrayed over the killing of a "fine young man", adding: "We will never forget, but to put our lives back into sync we must forgive."

Speaking outside the Old Bailey, Detective Superintendent Terry Sharpe said the Met police had done a great deal of work to understand and deal with belief-based child abuse. "However, this is a hidden and under-reported crime and therefore difficult to deal with in terms of protecting potential victims from harm," he said.

Kristy's ordeal began soon after he arrived in London on 16 December 2010. Bikubi, a man he thought of as his uncle, accused him of witchcraft after he wet himself. He forced Kristy and two of his sisters who he also believed were witches – Kelly, 20, and their 11-year-old sister, who cannot be named – to pray, denying them food and sleep in an attempt to "remove the kindoki", the Lingala word for witchcraft.

Bikubi – helped and encouraged by Bamu – then focused on Kristy, using an "armoury of weapons". He beat the child with a metal bar used for weights, shoved a metal bar into the teenager's mouth, forced him to eat a screw and struck him with a hammer in the face, knocking out his teeth. Bamu also beat him, taking a pair of pliers and wrenching his ear.

On Christmas Day 2010, when Kristy was weakened due to the beatings, Bikubi forced the boy and his siblings into a bath to wash away the evil spirits. He doused them with water and, as the bath filled, Kristy was submerged and drowned.

When Kristy was found by paramedics in the eighth-floor flat in Forest Gate, his head, face, back and arms were covered in deep cuts and bruises, and several of his teeth were missing. Pathologist reports revealed he suffered 101 injuries and died as a result of drowning and the injuries.

Giving evidence through a French interpreter, Kelly said the pair were fixated on the idea that the three siblings were practising witchcraft. "It was as if they were obsessed by that and then it became absolutely unbearable," she told the court. "I repeated again and again and again that we were not witches that we had come there to spend Christmas as a family together. But I don't know what was going on in their minds. They decided we were there to kill them."

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:21 AM
From the website you linked...

"Of course, Catholic clergy are not the only ones who sexually abuse children. There are reports here on sexual crimes by clergy of various Protestant denominations and sects, particularly Baptists, but also by Anglicans, Amish, Assemblies of God, Presbyterians, Mennonites, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and others. There also numerous, smaller Christian sects and cults represented here where the leaders committed various sexual crimes against children and teens. Some examples of those include The Family International previously known as the Children of God; Tony Alamo Ministries; Wayne Bent's cult; and the House of Yahweh. Hindu gurus and Buddhist monks are also among the clergy abusers reported here, though not to the extent of other groups. That may be partly because I did not scan newspapers from Asia as often as from other areas."

http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:22 AM
After disarming Satanic murderers




Three men who disarmed a devil-worshipper after he stabbed one boy to death and was attacking another are being honoured today by the police.

Sheikh Salim, Anwar Ali Khan and Simon Weissand intervened as Edward Crowley launched a knife attack on Roberto Pineiro-Villar, 15, as his half brother Diego, 12, lay dying.

Mr Salim, 28, and Mr Khan, 26, wrestled Crowley to the ground and Mr Weissand, 34, helped pin the killer down after running from his flat overlooking the scene in Covent Garden.

Crowley, now 54, a disciple of satanist Aleister Crowley, was jailed for life last February for murdering Diego.

The trio will receive an award from the Metropolitan Police for their courage. The Mayor of Camden, Roger Robinson, will present a certificate of commendation at Camden town hall.

Frank Dobson, MP for Holborn and St Pancras, said: "They risked their lives for the sake of a total stranger. Like many people, I do not know if I would have had the courage to do it, and that is why they really deserve the honour."

Mr Khan and Mr Salim were working as waiters in the Sartaj Balti House when Crowley struck outside on Sunday 7 May, two years ago. Mr Salim told the Evening Standard before receiving the award: "I could not run away, I had to do something.

"At first I saw a man chase someone and grab him. I thought it was a domestic dispute as, from behind, the boy looked a bit like a woman. It looked like he was being punched but I thought that's a funny way to punch someone. The man just wasn't stopping.

"I went over and said, 'That's enough now, leave off.' He tried to stab me but missed. I grabbed him and felt something warm, looked at my sleeve and it was covered in blood. He turned towards me and then Anwar came running, shouting, 'He's got a knife!' and he saved me. We both grabbed him and wrestled him down. The boy was lying there motionless and the other kid was screaming with agony.

"All the time I was thinking if I had got there a minute or two earlier I might have saved both. The best thing was when his mum came and thanked me for saving her son's life. I was speechless. She had lost one son and was thanking me. I just hugged her."

Traumatised by the attack, Mr Salim moved away from London for six months and had counselling. He has never returned to the scene, though he has come back to London and works as a supervisor at a Bayswater restaurant.

Mr Khan, who still works at the Sartaj, said: "I think I did what anyone else would do but I still find it hard knowing so many people just stood and watched. A few weeks after it happened I went abroad just to get away from it. Time does heal it, though."

Foreign exchange broker Mr Weissand said he hoped the award would encourage others to do the same: "If more people are rewarded then more will be encouraged to react."

Crowley, born Henry Alan Bibby, changed his name to that of the infamous satanist. A paranoid schizophrenic, he developed a warped obsession for Diego after befriending the "polite and kind" schoolboy in Phoenix Gardens, Covent Garden.


http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

bendoon
04-03-2012, 03:23 AM
I see that rather than commenting on the thread subject h4e has chosen to spam it with off topic posts, for a change :rolleyes:

I can't imagine for one minute if the thread was about christian paedophiles she would be spamming it with posts about satanist paedophiles, but such is life and some peoples behaviour is oh so predictable.

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:25 AM
From the website you linked...

"Of course, Catholic clergy are not the only ones who sexually abuse children. There are reports here on sexual crimes by clergy of various Protestant denominations and sects, particularly Baptists, but also by Anglicans, Amish, Assemblies of God, Presbyterians, Mennonites, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and others. There also numerous, smaller Christian sects and cults represented here where the leaders committed various sexual crimes against children and teens. Some examples of those include The Family International previously known as the Children of God; Tony Alamo Ministries; Wayne Bent's cult; and the House of Yahweh. Hindu gurus and Buddhist monks are also among the clergy abusers reported here, though not to the extent of other groups. That may be partly because I did not scan newspapers from Asia as often as from other areas."

http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/

Start your own christian peadophile thread then...This one is about Satanic murderers and peadophiles

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:26 AM
I see that rather than commenting on the thread subject h4e has chosen to spam it with off topic posts, for a change :rolleyes:

I can't imagine for one minute if the thread was about christian paedophiles she would be spamming it with posts about satanist paedophiles, but such is life and some peoples behaviour is oh so predictable.

What is off topic? I am using the EXACT SAME link that Blacky got his information from.

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:28 AM
Start your own christian peadophile thread then...This one is about Satanic murderers and peadophiles

Oh, I am sorry, I thought you said that this was about Satanic Pedophiles who 'infiltrated' the church which includes other churches besides the Catholic Church, at least, that is what YOUR link says.

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:42 AM
Oh, I am sorry, I thought you said that this was about Satanic Pedophiles who 'infiltrated' the church which includes other churches besides the Catholic Church, at least, that is what YOUR link says.

I have a lot of links and sub titles.

But the title is 'Satan worshipping peadophiles', and that is what it is about.

However i will accept debate about Satanic cult ritual and murder aswell

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:43 AM
A sheet from a ritual is now not linked to the death

Voodoo rituals - some involving children - are being carried out in the UK, an investigation by BBC Radio 4's Today programme has revealed.

Animal sacrifice is one of the rites carried out under the umbrella of the west African region.

Practitioners are advertising in ethnic minority newspapers, often offering traditional remedies for illnesses.

A Today reporter attended a ceremony where 30 people watched a ritual involving a young girl with a speech defect.

The girl was wrapped in a black sheet and chanted over by a group of men wearing white satin robes.

Based in a disused warehouse in east London, the sect was examined by police investigating the dismembered torso of a young boy found in the Thames.

A sheet and candles used in one of their ceremonies was found nearby, but police are now certain there is no link to the killing.

Head cut off

They still believe the killing may have been ritualistic but have yet to identify the boy.

The vice-chairman of the Metropolitan Police Independent Advisory Group, John Azah, said he had been brought in by police for a new perspective on the murder.

He told Today: "His head had been cut off in a particular way, his arms and his legs had also been cut off in a particular way

"We are talking about either witchcraft, ju-ju or voodoo.

"A certain tribe or culture practise sacrifices, mainly animals, where animals are sacrificed in a particular way and then the blood is drunk to give them a certain strength, good health, to give them a certain potency.

"People will sacrifice anything, including humans.

"If people feel that human sacrifice is going to be more potent there is a view that the younger the child the stronger the medicine is."

He warned that attitudes towards foreign cultures in the UK left open the possibility unpleasant practices could be imported.

Cultural diversity

"In promoting cultural diversity we import the good and the bad," he said.

"If this is a ritual killing then unfortunately - as bad as it may sound - we have imported those aspects of culture into mainland Britain."

Detective Inspector Will O'Reilly, leading the investigation, said the police were "treading on new ground".

He said the intelligence gained in this case would not be lost, but fed back in if criminal offences are apparent.

"Other agencies within the police force will be interested in picking this up and bringing this forward," he said.

"We have got no evidence to say any human sacrifice has ever taken place in the UK."



http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:47 AM
Police suspect the victim was a West African child slave, after forensic evidence points to a ritual killing, report Martin Bright and Paul Harris

Martin Bright and Paul Harris

http://www.observer.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,726271,00.html

Sunday June 2, 2002 - The Observer

A young boy whose mutilated torso was discovered floating in the River Thames last September was the victim of a gruesome West African 'religious' sacrifice intended to bring good luck, and was trafficked into the country expressly for the killing.

Genetic tests on the boy - who was found with his head and limbs removed and wearing only a pair of orange shorts - point to a West African origin, probably Nigeria or a nearby country such as Togo or Benin.

Further analysis of stomach contents and bone chemistry show the child, whom police have named Adam, could not have been brought up in London. Detectives are now working on the horrifying theory that he was bought as a child slave in West Africa and smuggled to Britain solely to be killed.

Experts on African religion consulted by Scotland Yard believe Adam may have been sacrificed to one of the 400 'Orisha' or ancestor gods of the Yoruba people, Nigeria's second-largest ethnic group. Oshun, a Yoruba river goddess is associated with orange, the colour of the shorts, which were placed on Adam's body 24 hours after he was killed as a bizarre addition to the ritual. The body was then stored for a further 24 hours before being offered to the Thames.

The cultural clues fit neatly with the forensics as the Yoruba are found in Benin, Togo and Ghana as well as Nigeria. Thousands of Yoruba slaves were also taken to the Caribbean, where elements of their religion formed the basis of voodoo rituals.

A close examination of the cuts where the head and limbs were sliced from the body shows that they were carried out by an expert using extremely sharp knives specially prepared for the purpose. In a horrific operation reminiscent of animal sacrifice, the flesh around the limbs and neck was first cut down to the bones, which were then slashed with a single blow from an implement much like a butcher's meat cleaver. Adam would have been stretched out horizontally or upside down during the sacrifice and kept in position while the blood was drained from the body.

Officers working on the case believe that the level of expertise involved could show the perpetrators imported a magician or priest to carry out the ritual. They also believe the amputated body parts will have been kept as powerful magical trophies.

Richard Hoskins, a lecturer in the Study of Religions at Bath Spa University, who has studied ritual killings across Africa, said: 'This looks like a deviant variety of a West African religion. Someone would have done it to gain power. But the vast majority of Africans would find this abhorrent.'

In an unprecedented missing-person investigation, the police have even tracked down the origins of the orange shorts, which were made exclusively in China for German Woolworth stores. Police believe Adam may have arrived in England from Germany, a common route for people traffickers.

Police are now awaiting final results of the forensic tests, which should identify a specific country or ethnic group, before moving their investigation to Africa. Scotland Yard officers working on the case then plan to launch appeals to the parents of missing children in Adam's country of origin..

Commander Andy Baker of the Metropolitan Police, who is heading the investigation said: 'All we have is the trunk of a little boy and a very small pair of shorts. But when the work on the forensics identifies his home, we will go to that country and make direct contact with the government involved.'

Investigators have now discounted the theory that Adam was the victim of a so-called muti killing, where body parts are taken to be used in medicine. It is a practice widespread in areas of South Africa, and detectives travelled to Johannesburg to speak to experts. But all the evidence is now pointing to West Africa as holding the answers to the riddle of Adam's slaughter. It now seems clear it was not body parts his killers were after.

Expert forensic analysis of mitochondrial DNA - the first time such a test has been used in a criminal investigation - shows that Adam was almost certainly West African. Other gruesome evidence is the fact that Adam's genitals were left on his body. In muti murders the genitals are seen as powerful medicine; not so in West Africa where the 'luck' of an individual is believed to lie in the blood. Adam's blood was drained from his body after he was killed, but his genitals were undamaged. A further clue lies in the fact that Adam, who was between four and seven years old, was also circumcised. In southern Africa circumcision happens as a passage to adulthood. In West Africa it occurs shortly after birth.

The case has prompted a continent-wide alert that African ritual killings have been imported to Europe. Last Monday an international conference was held in the Dutch city of The Hague to discuss the phenomenon, and several countries' police forces are investigating deaths involving mutilations. Even Police believe that rich West Africans imported Adam from West Africa, probably using a specialist witch doctor for the task. The witch doctor would have procured the boy in West Africa, perhaps paying a fee to his family, a fee who may have expected him to be put to work abroad. He would then have been 'trafficked' to Europe.

Adam was well-treated before he was killed.. Traces of a common over-the-counter cough medicine were found in his stomach, indicating someone wanted him in good health for the day of his execution.

Could it happen again? Whatever business Adam's killers wanted to bless has already started. It is unlikely his killers will strike again. 'If another one happens then it is likely to be a different group of people involved. The ones who killed Adam are already satisfied with what they have done,' said Dr Hendrik Scholtz, an expert at South Africa's University of the Witwatersrand.

Temi Olusanya, the Nigerian vice-chair of the African Caribbean Development Association said Adam's murder had deeply shocked the West African community. 'This is a crime that cannot be tolerated in African religions. Murder is murder and we should work together to find the people who did this,' he said.

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:48 AM
I have a lot of links and sub titles.

But the title is 'Satan worshipping peadophiles', and that is what it is about.

However i will accept debate about Satanic cult ritual and murder aswell

Yeah, you said that these Satanist had infiltrated the churches...thus why I was showing from your link that they have apparently infiltrated all of them.

I wonder, does this infiltration go back to the first Christians?

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:49 AM
Ukrainian police say they have arrested three men and a woman on suspicion of murdering six people and eating their flesh.

Police officials in the central town of Zhytomyr said the group's last victim was an 18-year-old girl.

"They killed a young woman in a forest and then cut out fleshy parts of the body and ate them. This is horrible," a police spokeswoman told the Reuters news agency.

The last high-profile case in the region where cannibalism was a factor was that of Russia's serial killer, Andrei Chikatilo.

He killed 53 women and children in a prolonged campaign of serial murder which began in 1978.

Chikatilo - who grew up believing his older brother been kidnapped and eaten during the great Ukrainian famine of the early 1930s - mutilated some of his victims by gnawing at them.

Black magic books

In what is believed to have been a Satanic ritual, the suspects killed the girl with two knife thrusts to the heart, local interior ministry representative Viktor Kurbatov was quoted as saying by the French news agency.

The suspects are said to have then scalped the young woman, boiled her decapitated head and to have eaten it before cutting out her organs.

Several days afterwards, police arrested the suspects when they were waiting to meet the girl's parents from whom they had demanded a $3,000 ransom.

One policeman was injured during the operation.

Police found "several books on black magic" at the house of the one of the suspects, a 53-year-old man, the official added.



http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:50 AM
Villagers have said prayers for the elderly victim murdered in a macabre ritual by a vampire enthusiast.

Mathew Hardman, 17, has begun a life sentence after he was found guilty of the "savage" murder of Mabel Leyshon, 90, in her bungalow at Llanfairpwll, Anglesey.

Village rector Rev Robert Townsend said Mrs Leyshon was being foremost remembered in Sunday prayers.

But also he called prayers for Hardman, in the hope he could come to admit his crime, and for his family in their heartbreak.

Hardman had denied stabbing Mrs Leyshon 22 times, removing her heart and drinking her blood at the quiet Welsh village in November 2001.

But he was found guilty at Mold Crown Court on Friday.

It was said the teenager was obsessed with vampires and the occult, and had told others he wanted to kill someone in order to become immortal.

Macabre death of elderly widow

As the jury returned a unanimous verdict and the judge ordered him to serve at least 12 years of a life sentence, Hardman, 17, wept in the dock and his mother shrieked and sobbed in the public gallery.

He had previously told her he had not committed the crime.

Hardman - who had lived just a few yards away from his victim and had been her paperboy - mutilated Mrs Leyshon's body before placing pokers at her feet in the shape of a cross.

Her heart had been removed, wrapped in newspaper and placed in a saucepan on a silver platter next to her body.

The prosecution said her killer drank her blood in a "macabre ritual".

The 14-day hearing was told how he smashed his way into Mrs Leyshon's bungalow where he was watching television.

DNA found in blood at the murder scene matched that of blood found on a knife at Hardman's home.


http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:52 AM
"Hosanna Coverup

In April, 2005, Louis Lamonica, Pastor of the Hosanna Church in Ponchatoula, Louisiana, walked into the sheriff's office and made a bizarre confession.

From Newsweek, May 3, 2005:

Louis Lamonica walked into the sheriff's department in tiny Livingston, La., a few weeks ago and asked to speak with a detective. According to police, for almost the next two hours the middle-aged preacher, dressed casually in a green polo shirt and green slacks, proceeded to tell a story so sickening they could scarcely believe what they were hearing. He explained that he was the former pastor of Hosanna Church, a now defunct house of worship in nearby Ponchatoula. Matter-of-factly and without remorse, Lamonica said that he and other church members had molested children, and taught them to have sex with each other, as well as with a dog. He told the detectives that he drank cat blood, and poured it on the bodies of his young victims, according to Ponchatoula Police Chief David Vitter.

When he had finished talking, Lamonica was arrested by the stunned detectives, who charged him with two counts of aggravated rape of a child under 13 and a charge of crime against nature. According to police, Lamonica was confused by the cops' reaction. "He was somewhat shocked when he found out we were going to arrest him," Detective Stan Carpenter told NEWSWEEK.

From the May 22 article in the The Advocate:

Edwards said members of a Ponchatoula church carried out the practices for years as part of a devil-worshipping ritual involving cat blood.

"This is hard to talk about and harder to believe, but some of the suspects have told us their intention in all of this was devil worshipping," Edwards said.

Edwards said earlier in the week that the people involved in the cult reportedly had sex with children and animals from 1999 until the church disbanded in 2003.

The investigation by the Livingston and Tangipahoa Parish sheriff's offices, the FBI and the Ponchatoula Police Department is continuing, he said.

The Advocate then reported on May 26th:

Deputies also went to Ohio to bring back items seized by FBI agents from a storage unit rented by Nicole Bernard. The Associated Press reported that the search warrant for the storage unit in Ohio indicated agents seized a mattress, videos and nine garbage bags of costumes.

Detectives on Monday searched a Hammond storage unit rented by Patricia Pierson, 54, and found shotguns and a sword, Edwards said. Pierson was arrested Monday night when she arrived at the Baton Rouge Metro Airport.

Edwards said he did not know if any costumes were found in Pierson's storage unit.

Victims and suspects have told deputies that costumes and puppets were used in the rituals, sometimes to persuade the children to participate. Detectives also believe that members dressed in black to perform rituals that included cat blood on a pentagram.

Nicole Bernard, one of the church members, also spoke of the storage unit:

According to a search warrant, Bernard told police she had evidence to prove that members of the alleged church cult had assaulted her 5-year-old daughter and other children. She also said evidence was in a storage unit on Morse Road.

Bernard said she had tapes and videos that belonged to the church, Burton reported. The FBI and police recovered bedding, photos and videos that may show some of the alleged sex acts with the children and could help law enforcement identify other children, Burton reported.

Even the Public Defender for some of the accused seemed to agree that something cultish, involving sex/blood magick had taken place:

Tangipahoa Public Defender Reggie McIntyre represents 4 suspects in the case.

"There is no physical evidence," said McIntyre. "Everything is either innuendo, hear-say or statements from a third party."

The public defender says from what he knows and what he's heard, if crimes did occur at the Hosanna Church, they don't come close to rising to the level of aggravated rape of a juvenile which carries the death penalty in Louisiana.

"The devil cult you have there, you play with blood and all that kind of stuff and it could be endangerment to the children," said McIntyre. "It could be to the point where there is some sexual gratification or some molestation involved here, but not the sexual aggravated rape."

An AP article on June 11 states:

"Edwards stopped short of saying the cult consisted of devil-worshipers, but said some of the defendants told investigators that ''devil worship was the reason for their participation." Edwards added that defendants and witnesses also gave statements saying a dog was sexually abused and at least two cats were sacrificed."

And most damning of all is the NYT article from May 25:

"Nine people have been arrested in the past week. A dozen computers have been seized, at least some of which the police believe contain child pornography, as well as dozens of videotapes, hundreds of computer disks and eight large boxes of documents and photographs. Inside the shuttered church compound, in a "youth hall" behind the sanctuary, the police found the faint imprint of pentagrams on the floor that someone had apparently tried to scrub away. Some of those arrested, the police said, described rituals within those pentagrams involving cats' blood and people dressed in black robes."

So we have the initial confession from Lamonica, and many other confessions directly admitting cult activity, a storage shed with costumes, hundreds of computers disks, boxes of photographs, and a fucking imprint of a pentagram on the floor.

So, with all that evidence, what do we read in today's Advocate?

"The occult has been suggested as a motive for the crimes, but no evidence of occult-type activities has been found, sheriff's Detective Mike DePhillips has testified. The detective was called to the witness stand during hearings for the defendants on Wednesday and last week.

The alleged occult connection also is not part of the court case as it stands, Wall has said."

Wow, I'm really glad that's cleared up! Nothing to see here, folks. Keep moving.

And people who claim to have been ritually abused are accused of being out-of-touch with reality.

Rick Ross has done a good job compiling the news reports here:

http://www.rickross.com/groups/hosanna.html"

http://www.rense.com/general66/satanicinfiltrationoffund.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:55 AM
Yeah, you said that these Satanist had infiltrated the churches...thus why I was showing from your link that they have apparently infiltrated all of them.

I wonder, does this infiltration go back to the first Christians?

I am worried more on what is happening in this current day.

I am also trying to get the truth out as it seems that this stuff is well hidden and does not come up in a general google search.

You seem to be trying to do your best to divert the issues on this thread, and prevent me from doing so

However all my links are genuine from and range from Satanic mass murderers, cannabils, ritual sacrafices, peadophilia, vampire activity and mutilation..Horrific crimes and those people have all been to court and found guilty and in some cases those cults are being exposed by BBC and newspaper agencies, i just wonder why it does not make front page headlines, could it be because its true, Satanists have also infiltrated mass media?

Those crimes are horrific, shocking and grotesque

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 03:57 AM
Bite him.....



A teenage vampire fanatic accused of killing a pensioner and drinking her blood was arrested two months earlier when he asked a policeman to bite his neck, a court has heard.

The art student, 17, who cannot be named for legal reasons, denies stabbing Mabel Leyshon, 90, with a knife 22 times and removing her heart in a "macabre" killing at her Llanfairpwll, Anglesey, bungalow on 24 November.

But Sergeant Peter Nicholson said he made no connection between the case and his arrest on 23 September, when the boy told him: "Bite my neck."

The boy was arrested for earlier begging a local student to bite him, helping his quest to transform into a vampire.

Tuesday, Mold Crown Court heard pensioner Mrs Leyshon died from multiple stabbed wounds and her chest had been "ripped open".

Pokers were found at her feet in the shape of a cross, the jury was told.

Her heart had been removed, wrapped in newspaper and placed in a saucepan on of a silver platter next to her body after blood had been drunk from it in a "macabre ritual", it was said.



http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:00 AM
Some say it is the new Gothic culture mixed with Nazism



Gothic is a way of dressing, a taste in music, a style. But in Germany - at the extreme fringes - it has also become the point at which neo-Nazism and Satanism meet

John Hooper

Saturday November 16, 2002

The Guardian

The prosecutor called it "a picture of cruelty and depravity such as I have never, ever seen". He was describing the scene left behind when Daniel and Manuela Ruda fled from their home in the west German town of Witten in July last year after murdering their friend, Frank Hackert. When police broke in three days later, on July 9, they found a poster of hanged women in the bathroom and a collection of human skulls in the living room. There was a coffin in which 23-year-old Manuela sometimes slept. Blood-stained scalpels were scattered around the house. And then there was Hackert's corpse. He had been stabbed 66 times. A scalpel was lodged in his stomach and a pentagram cut into his skin. Nearby was a list of names. Police believe that they were those of the people the couple intended to kill next.

The Rudas' trial in January provided a stream of outlandish and gruesome details. Much of the focus was on Manuela, who shrank from sunlight and had had two of her teeth replaced with animal fangs to look more like a vampire. She said her initiation into the world of Satanism had taken place at a Gothic club in Islington, London, where she claimed to have met real vampires. "We drank the blood of living people," she told police. On January 31, she was sentenced to 13 years in a secure mental facility, while Daniel was sentenced to 15 years.

While public attention tended to dwell on the way in which Manuela had given life to her sinister fantasies, a more chilling aspect of the case went largely unnoticed: the links between the Rudas and the neo-Nazi movement, links that hint at a much broader - and growing - overlap in Germany between the far right and the broad range of occult and esoteric movements that nowadays go by the generic name of "Gothic" or "Dark Wave".

Among the witnesses at the trial was 28-year-old Frank Lewa. He testified that he had first met Daniel Ruda on the local far right/skinhead scene. Daniel's involvement was more than casual. The regional newspaper, the Rheinische Post, discovered that at the 1998 general election campaign in Germany, Daniel had canvassed for the National-Democratic Party of Germany (NPD), a far right party that the government has since tried to outlaw (the matter is currently before the Constitutional Court).

On the witness stand, Lewa said that after the election Daniel drifted out of the skinhead world and into the Gothic scene. He began listening to "black metal" music, a variant of heavy metal, and at one time played in a band called the Bloodsucking Freaks. It was through a black metal fanzine, in fact, that he met Manuela, after placing an ad that read: "Black-haired vampire seeks princess of darkness who despises everything and everybody and has bidden farewell to life."

Daniel, 26, broke contact with Lewa after a row at a party. Lewa told the court that he had received a letter from his erstwhile friend in July, a few days before the Rudas killed Hackert. In it, Daniel called Lewa a Judas and enclosed a photograph of himself, covered in blood and apparently hanging from hooks in the ceiling. He was pointing two gas pistols at the camera.

When the police finally caught up with Daniel and his wife, on July 12 2001, they were in the east German city of Jena, having previously visited two nearby towns, Sonderhausen and Apold.

The significance of these details would be lost on most Germans, and it appears not to have been remarked upon at the trial. Nevertheless, it would have meant a very great deal to anyone who had studied what has become known as "the case of Satan's Children", in which three schoolboys who lived near Jena were convicted in 1994 of the ritual black magic killing of a classmate.

One of the boys, 16-year-old Hendrik Möbus from Sonderhausen, formed a band while in a juvenile detention centre. Among the tracks on a CD they produced was one called Zyklon B, after the gas used in the Auschwitz gas chambers. Not long after Möbus's release on probation in 1998, he began violating the terms of his parole, roaring out "Sieg Heil" from among the audience at a concert, and attempting to justify the murder for which he had been sentenced on political grounds. "I don't know whether, in the Nazi era, one would have been convicted if one had rendered race vermin harmless," he was quoted as saying.

Germany has legislation making both Holocaust denial and the use of symbols from the Third Reich criminal offences. In 1999, faced with the prospect of another spell in jail for contravening these laws (and thereby breaking the terms of his parole), Möbus fled to the US, where he applied unsuccessfully for political asylum. He is now back behind bars in Germany. His brother, who lives in Apold, runs a black metal label, Darker Than Black.

In the days that followed the murder of Frank Hackert, the Rudas embarked on a kind of pilgrimage to places that in their minds linked the far right and the occult - to Jena, Sonderhausen and Apold. It is possible they planned to do more than visit: on the death list police discovered in the Rudas' flat was the name of the mother of the boy whom Hendrik Möbus and his friends had murdered seven years earlier.

Links between Nazism and esoteric and occult movements are nothing new. Hitler, rejecting Christianity, embraced instead the paganism of the early Germanic tribes. Their beliefs, both real and imagined, offered a basis on which any number of sinister concepts could be superimposed. The process reached its apogee at Schloss Wewelsburg, near the town of Paderborn. Though the present-day castle dates from the late 16th century, records suggest that there has been a fortress on the site since the days of the Huns, more than a thousand years earlier. The surrounding landscape is wooded, often misty, and interspersed with giant, weirdly-shaped rocks. The castle and its environs were ideally suited to the purpose for which Heinrich Himmler rented them in 1934 - that of providing the officers of his elite corps, the SS, with an education in the supposed pagan mysteries underpinning National Socialism.

Though it does not make much of an impact at election time, the far right remains a disturbing undercurrent in German life: sufficiently disturbing for the federal government to have launched an all-out drive against the neo-Nazi fringe two years ago (including the attempt to ban the NPD). "The problem with the far right in Germany is not that its members are particularly numerous, but that they are readier than their counterparts elsewhere in Europe to resort to violence," said a senior intelligence officer who asked not to be named. That point was driven home by a string of savage attacks in early 2000, culminating in the beating to death of a Mozambique-born German citizen in Dessau.

The far right is especially pervasive in the formerly communist east where unemployment is high and where, after the war, there was not the same painful reckoning with the past as in the west. Despite - or perhaps because of - the fact that there are fewer immigrants in the former GDR, surveys also show that racist attitudes are more prevalent there than in the cosmopolitan west.

One possible reason why the degree of support for the far right does not show up in election results is that the most extreme rightwingers will have nothing to do with the democratic process and abstain. This is particularly true of those connected with the so-called Kameradschaften which form a network of mutually independent, neo-Nazi secret societies. Each may have no more than 10 or 15 members, but around them is a wider circle of associates and sympathisers. Indeed, the secretive and hierarchical world of the German far right mirrors that of many occult communities.

On several occasions since the fall of the Third Reich, evidence has surfaced of connections between the far right and Satanism. As in the cases of Hendrik Möbus and Daniel Ruda, however, they have been limited to individuals or, at most, small groups. But in the past five years, an entirely new phenomenon has developed: a mass youth culture in which neo-Nazi ideas and symbols have merged with the Gothic scene.

This movement can be traced back to 1993, when Roland Bubik, widely regarded as the leading thinker of the German extreme right, wrote a seminal article for the magazine Junge Freiheit. Entitled "Culture as a question of power", it argued that "new possibilities for influencing people are arising in the area of communications networks. In particular, the entertainment industry... has an immense influence that until now has gone unremarked." Within a couple of years, Bubik's partner, Simone Satzger, was stating as fact, in a collection of essays edited by Bubik, that the far right's strategy was "to open up contemporary cultural and political phenomena to use them for our own purposes".

Since the mid-1990s, Germany's neo-Nazis have attempted to penetrate several youth scenes, including techno, but it is with Goths that they have had their greatest success. The Gothic movement may be on the wane in Britain and many other countries around Europe, but in Germany, where its adherents are known as Gruftis (from the German word for "crypt"), they constitute a vast group. It is particularly strong in the former GDR. East Germans are still reeling from the fall of communism, and the young in particular seem to be searching for new values to fill the gap left by a creed that was as much a religion as an ideology.

"The concentration of Goths in Germany is much higher than in other European countries," says Stephan Tschendal, who edits an online Gothic magazine. He estimates that between 5% and 7% of all young Germans between the ages of 12 and 25 are Goths, an overall population of at least 650,000. Many of them are doing no more than making a fashion statement, or registering a protest against the drabness and conformity of modern adult life. Devil-worshippers exist only on the extremist fringe. But in two specific areas of the Gothic scene - the areas in which the neo-Nazis have had the greatest success in infiltrating their ideas - Germany's intelligence officers believe there is genuine cause for concern. One of these is "neo-folk"; the other is black metal, the dark variant of heavy metal that so appealed to Daniel Ruda.

In a darkened hall in the centre of Leipzig, blue lights play on the smoke billowing out from under a stage where Darkwood, a three-piece neo-folk band, play placid, lilting, slightly weird music. The band's gig forms part of an annual, three-day Gothic festival, which this year attracted some 17,000 people from all over Europe to Leipzig. Churches in the city that had been asked to host concerts refused to do so, citing the risk that Satanists could assemble on consecrated ground.

About half the crowd at the gig are typical Goths, but the rest look as if they have wandered in from a Nuremberg rally. There are men wearing high, heavy boots and black military-style shirts and trousers. There are women, also wearing boots, with calf-length skirts and white shirts with a symbol on the right arm that resembles a badge of rank. Everywhere, there are leather cross-straps, forage caps and 1930s-style shorts.

As its name implies, neo-folk draws on the musical heritage of Bob Dylan, Joan Baez and other protest singers of the 1960s and 1970s. Some German groups dig further back into the past, updating and reworking traditional folk tunes. The acoustic guitar is central to its music, which also features flutes, cellos and violins. Yet neo-folk is anything but folksy. Punk has had an influence on its evolution and much of the music could be described as industrial. Unusually extensive percussion sets are typical of the genre. Another characteristic is that gentle melody-making can all of a sudden give way to something much more visceral: the lead singer of Darkwood seized hold of a pair of heavy drumsticks and beat out an intimidating tattoo on a bass drum. It was like Japanese Kodo drumming, but with the rhythms of a Prussian parade ground. The drumming rose in a crescendo, then ended as abruptly as it had begun, prompting the loudest cheers of the night.

The Leipzig festival was launched in 1991, soon after German reunification, and has helped turn the city into the Gothic capital of Europe. Like neo-Nazis, Goths are drawn to its Volkerschlachtdenkmal, one of the strangest and most intimidating monuments to be found anywhere in Europe. A vast, stepped pyramid towering over a lake on the wooded fringes of the city, it resembles a Mayan temple. The Volkerschlachtdenkmal was inaugurated in 1913 to commemorate the defeat of Napoleon at the battle of Leipzig 100 years earlier. But since German reunification, it has become a favoured rallying point for the far right.

The pivotal figure on Leipzig's neo-folk scene is a 29-year-old DJ who goes by the name of Mortanius. He denies that neo-folk has anything to do with extreme-right politics. "These groups use language and symbols both from the Nazi era and the days of the GDR to provoke people, to get people to think - think about their past," he told me. "People from the far right scene don't feel comfortable in this environment. We never see skinheads at our gigs or in our clubs. On the contrary, we have problems with them. I won't say you don't see people from the extreme right or that they aren't trying to infiltrate. The attempt is certainly there. But it is doomed to fail because people can think for themselves. We have a generally left-leaning audience."

Less than an hour after meeting Mortanius, I found myself in a shabby room with four Goths, three young men and a woman, who had agreed to be interviewed on condition of anonymity. One of the men had a partly shaven head and a pigtail, and was wearing a black shirt, camouflage trousers, military boots and a symbol dangling on his chest that managed to combine a Celtic cross, a human skull, an eagle's wings, two entwined snakes and a pentagram. His girlfriend had a spiked collar around her neck and a dog's lead dangling between her breasts. At one point, we fell to discussing what he called "youth Satanism". "It starts with the moving glass and then they go on to animal sacrifice," he said nonchalantly, and apparently knowledgeably.

When I read out Mortanius's description of the local neo-folk scene and its lack of connection to the far right, all four burst into incredulous laughter.

Solveig Prass, the Leipzig social worker who had set up our meeting, asked me if Mortanius had been wearing any badges when I met him; had I noticed that one of them was the so-called "Black Sun"? A pagan fertility symbol, the Black Sun is known to have been used by the Alemans, a third-century Germanic tribe. Each of its 12 "rays" is the rune meaning "sun". According to Dr Rudiger Sunner, author of a recent book on Nazism and its use of myth, the Black Sun is "definitely a sign of the SS". Himmler fashioned the SS emblem from one of the Black Sun's 12 jagged "rays", and a large Black Sun was set into the floor of the Obergruppenführer's Hall in Schloss Wewelsburg, immediately above the crypt.

Mortanius was in fact wearing three badges, including the pagan Black Sun: he argues that "our symbols... don't really have anything to do with the Third Reich".

How close, really, are the links between Gothic - or, specifically, neo-folk - culture and the German far right? Unquestionably, there is an element of sheer, apolitical mischief: it is not easy for the sons and daughters of the generation of 1968 to find a way of shocking their parents, but dressing up in vaguely neo-Nazi garb should do the trick. "I want to stand out from the crowd of normal Dark Wave folk," Mortanius told me. "I don't want to be an ordinary Goth in the street. I want to provoke people."

The organisation charged with protecting Germany from a Nazi revival is the Verfassungsschutz, a body roughly equivalent to Britain's MI5. Reinhard Boos is its director in Saxony, the state in which Leipzig lies, and so has a special interest in gauging the threat posed by far right penetration of the Gothic scene. When I visit him in his office in a leafy Dresden suburb, he produces a couple of CD covers and lays them on his desk. One is an album by the British band Death In June, which shows four dogs' heads arranged at right angles. Half-close your eyes and they become a swastika. The other CD is by the Austrian band Der Blutharsch. Tip it, and a shiny patch on the inside cover becomes a triangle containing the jagged ray of... what? The SS symbol? Or the sun rune? Is this merely provocation, or evidence of a link between extremist politics and neo-folk music?

"I think the truth is in between," says Boos. "The Gothic scene is not to be confused with rightwing extremism. But there are some groups that use symbols which refer to rightwing extremism and they do it mainly for provocation. Very, very few of them do it to support rightwing groups. On the other hand, the rightwing extremists know that there are people who can be useful to them, so some of them try to win them over for their own aims. It is not a plan by a few [people] that is carried out in a clear, structured way. Those who think it is a good idea do so of their own accord."

"Things are not going well for the far right," argues Wolfgang Hund, an educational scientist and the author of several books on the occult. "They are under pressure from all sides and they are looking for allies... They are looking for foot soldiers in the ranks of disoriented youth - human raw material for any Pied Piper who comes along."

One of the young men I met in Leipzig was about as different from the far right stereotype as could be imagined. His jet-black hair was shaved away on one side of his head and hung lank down the other. He was wearing a black velvet tailcoat, a silver pentagram on a chain around his neck, five rings in one ear, and sunglasses. This apparently typical Goth was in the process of trying to free himself from the neo-Nazi scene.

"My first contact was through a member of the NPD," he said. "It was all very low key at first. We went to some concerts [of neo-Nazi bands] and I liked the music they played. Then I started getting flyers and leaflets. Eventually, I began to help distribute them." He decided to leave after a row over money ended in his being badly beaten.

Such cases notwithstanding, Boos believes that recruitment is not, in fact, the far right's primary aim. The threat posed by the infiltration of the Gothic scene is, he believes, subtler. "We take it seriously because it opens people's heads to extreme rightwing thought."

Solveig Prass and her colleagues in Leipzig, who talk regularly to DJs and others, have been keeping a running estimate of how much of the Goth scene is under the influence of the far right."The link was first noticed in the mid-1990s. At that time, it was estimated that the overlap was about 5%. Two years ago, we put it at 7-8%. Now, our estimate is 9%." Alfred Schobert, a lecturer at the Duisberg Institute of Language and Social Research, took a similar view in his 1998 academic investigation into the infiltration of the Gothic scene by the far right. "It is not about recruiting in the short term. It is about [producing] an overall reversal that picks up on and distorts the prevailing mood."

Through the Gothic scene, the far right can obtain access to the minds of hundreds of thousands of young people throughout Europe. If they can be taught to accept certain beliefs and symbols as normal, then the extreme right will have made significant progress towards achieving what Schobert argues is a key, medium-term goal: "The removal of the taboos that attach to Nazi symbols and racist-nationalist ideology".

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:02 AM
And are putting in measures to stop Satanism spreading into Russia





Rock music is evil, according to Father Anatoly

Celibate Priest Anatoly Berestov believes that Satanism has a tendency for development nowadays. Celibate Priest Anatoly is a Doctor of Medical Sciences. He chairs a center for the rehabilitation of people who have suffered from totalitarian sects and occults.

Father Anatoly gave an interview to the website Credo.Ru. In the interview, Father Anatoly said that the situation with drug addicts has improved and has become more stable. In his opinion, this is because of the huge educational effort. This work is conducted both by the Russian Orthodox Church and the media.

However, the situation with occultism is absolutely different. “Satanism has a tendency for growing, and this tendency is a very threatening one,” said Father Anatoly. “Satanism is closely connected with people’s lifestyles. We are now looking at the West, at the USA, and this trash basically comes from there.”

Rock music, which is very popular in Russia now, also originates from the West. From time to time, rock bands get together for a grand show under such slogans as “No Drugs,” “Rock Against Drugs,” and the like. However, Father Anatoly believes that this is open propaganda for drugs: “As a doctor, and as a priest, I am certain that rock music is a straight road to drug addiction. Those people who organize those shows do not actually realize that. Probably, they don't realize this on purpose.”

The news agency New Region has recently reported with reference to the Orthodox Newspaper that there were satanic symbols found on one of the graves at a cemetery in the Russian city of Ekaterinburg. There was a large piece of paper found on one of the graves. The paper was fixed to the grave with nails. There was a pentagram on the paper and other satanic symbols as well. The paper was surrounded with burnt candles and small, painted stones.

Father Vladimir from the Ekaterinburg eparchy hopes that law-enforcement bodies will not ignore such satanic vestiges in the center of the city. Needless to mention, the police will not be able to suppress this; the problem is much larger. Father Anatoly is sure that Satanism is strictly connected with a person's lifestyle and with the aggressive mass culture that has poured into Russia from the West since the beginning of the 1990s.

Like they say in Russia, a holy place is never vacant. One has to think of a way to fill the spiritual gap that was formed after the crash of the communist ideology of the USSR. This gap is very good for various fake missionaries of Satanism. However, needless to mention, this fight cannot be won without the support of the state and law-enforcement bodies.

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:03 AM
A DEVIL worshipper was convicted yesterday of killing two of her lovers with drugs overdoses.

Kathleen McCluskey, 42, shouted: "This is ****ing ignorance" as the guilty verdict was passed.

The jury heard she kept a statue of the devil in her living room and encouraged visitors to stroke it. She told her first husband she was a witch.

Widow McCluskey, from Cambridge, killed artist Mohammed Assadi, 47, with an overdose of liquid methadone during a sex party, the court heard, Less than a year later, she killed care worker Marvin Brodie, 32, with the same drug.

McCluskey was cleared of murdering her second husband James McCluskey, 44, and Raymond Diaz, 48, because of insufficient evidence.

She was found guilty of the manslaughter of Mr Brodie and Mr Assadi but cleared of their murder.


http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 04:04 AM
I am worried more on what is happening in this current day.

I am also trying to get the truth out as it seems that this stuff is well hidden and does not come up in a general google search.

You seem to be trying to do your best to divert the issues on this thread, and prevent me from doing so

However all my links are genuine from and range from Satanic mass murderers, cannabils, ritual sacrafices, peadophilia, vampire activity and mutilation..Horrific crimes and those people have all been to court and found guilty and in some cases those cults are being exposed by BBC and newspaper agencies, i just wonder why it does not make front page headlines, could it be because its true, Satanists have also infiltrated mass media?

Those crimes are horrific, shocking and grotesque


Here is more on the Hosanna Church that I linked above:

http://www.rickross.com/groups/hosanna.html


I think we should expose these pedophiles, I don't care WHAT religion, race, or shoe size they believe, are or wear.

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:05 AM
Mirror joins Thames torso team investigating African link By Jeff Edwards in Oshogbo, Nigeria

THE monkey's shrivelled, grinning death mask stares up from a stinking cardboard box.

Next to it is the rotting carcass of an eagle wrapped in yellowing newspapers and the decomposing skull of a cheetah cub.

Three thousand miles from London, in 100 degrees of African heat, this sickening "ju-ju market" is just one of the horrors unfolding before a British police team hunting the black-magic killers of a little boy whose mutilated body was found in the Thames.

Naked but for a pair of orange shorts, his head, arms and legs severed from his torso, the victim - named Adam by detectives - had every drop of blood drained from his body.

Now the search for his sacrificial killers has led a Scotland Yard team to the West African country of Nigeria in what officers describe as probably the most "ambitious and unusual" investigation the Yard has undertaken. The Daily Mirror was the only newspaper invited to travel with the police team. Daily it is forced to pit modern, scientific methods and old-fashioned police legwork against the dark rituals of witchcraft, voodoo and ju-ju that are still practised in this superstition-shrouded corner of the world.

Somewhere in these villages, buried in deep jungle and linked by pot-holed roads, are Adam's parents, his sisters and brothers and aunts and uncles who may know something that could lead to his murderer. COMMANDER Andy Baker of the murder squad says: "All we know for sure is that Adam was the victim of a witchcraft-type ritual killing.

"He had not been in Britain very long because scientific analysis of his stomach contents shows that he had been eating British food only for a week or two. We are certain he spent the first few years of his life in Nigeria. "In this country there is a tradition of human sacrifice and child abduction. We think Adam was taken from here but killed in London by a high priest of black magic or voodoo.

"By analysing the chemical contents of his bones, scientists deduced he can come only from one tiny corner of the world.The water he drank and the food he ate have left indelible signs in his bones and tissue. It gives you a narrow belt of territory between two Nigerian cities, Ibadan and Benin City. "We have DNA samples from him and we can cross-match that against people who we think may be his relatives.When we know who he is, we have a good chance of finding out why he was killed and when we know that, we have an even better chance of discovering who did it."

But Nigeria is a dangerous place. A dead man is lying by a road and must have been there for several days. As the police convoy sweeps by, the Scotland Yard men can see how the African sun has already flayed the skin from his naked back. Buzzards and black kites wheel and swoop, waiting their chance. The armed column of jeeps and 4x4s speeds on without slowing - the team travels nowhere without at least six local officers armed with Kalashnikov assault rifles.

Millions of Nigerians live in fear of the curse of "bad ju-ju". You can invoke ju-ju in many ways. You can use parts taken from jungle animals, monkeys, snakes, lizards and birds to brew foul concoctions to improve your life, or heap misery on the lives of others.

There are spells to make you rich, to make you a better lover, to give you good health. There are spells to ward off evil spirits cast on you by enemies. Detective Inspector Will O'Reilly says: "There is still a widespread belief in the supernatural and the power of evil spirits, especially in the country areas. The local police tell me that a common practice is for voodoo priests to take body parts from people who have recently died, often by raiding cemeteries, and to sell them to gullible clients in the belief that they have been taken from human sacrifices."

But for the most powerful ju-ju, the only sacrifice acceptable is the human kind and Nigerian police officers admit that many children are abducted to die this way.

Politicians in Nigeria are keen to play things down. When the Scotland Yard men go to see the country's most powerful tribal chief, Oba Ikanude, the Ooni of Ife, he also appears sceptical.

At his cinder-block and corrugated iron palace in the town of Oshogbo, the elderly head of the Yoruba tribe, who sports a £20,000 diamond-inlaid Rolex watch and owns a £4million house in London's Belgravia, says: "It used to happen occasionally but that was all a long time ago." But local police chief Alhaji Shehu Bayero, tells a different story. "A few months ago, I investigated the ritual murder of a young woman.

"The killer was impotent. He was told by a witch-doctor that if he killed a woman and ate part of her insides, he would be able to have sex.

HE SAW a woman walking near his farm, stabbed her to death, cut out part of her intestines, cooked them and ate them.

"Now he is in jail. I think he was a crazy man but he was a believer in the power of ju-ju."

The British team have learned that in ju-ju, parts of a victim's body have different powers.

To eat the brains means you will be endowed with more knowledge. Eating an eye gives the power to see the future. The heart and blood give you strength and power. Devouring a woman's genitals or breasts guarantees you will raise many children. To take the eyelids or eyelashes gives a priest unassailable power to summon evil spirits. Ju-ju does not always involve cannibalism. A human hand buried outside a shop will "beckon" more customers and boost business.

In Oshogbo, the Osun river - which winds through a belt of tropical rainforest - is said to be a traditional site for sacrifices to the water god who bears the same name as the Osun.

Detective Constable Barry Costello says: "We believe that Adam was killed to appease the water god Osun. That is why his body was put into the Thames. "His killers put a pair of orange shorts on his torso. It is traditional that in a sacrifice to Osun, the victim's remains must be dressed in an orange garment before being committed to water."

In a tiny alley at the rear of a maze of shacks, we find stalls selling dried monkey paws, lizards and weasels impaled on sticks, animal skulls, bunches of bird feathers and dried bats. Their prices range from 50p for a dead bat to £5 for a monkey's head. In the heat, the stench is overpowering.

In the villages around Ibadan, Andy Baker and his team have been getting down to the sort of police work they hope will lead them to Adam's killer.

They are distributing hundreds of posters in English and local dialects asking for information about the boy.

They visit schools and police stations offering a reward of 500,000 Nigerian Naira - about £2,500.

This will be paid for any information that leads them to anyone who may be a relative of Adam.

Anyone who claims family links will be DNA-tested and the samples flown back to Britain for comparisons with Adam's DNA. The results should be known in less than a week.

A £50,000 reward is also on offer in Britain and Nigeria for information leading to the arrest and conviction of his killers.

Detectives will spend the next month on house-to-house inquiries in 1,000 Nigerian villages.

OFFICERS have already been told about a child who went missing from a village in Oyo state at the relevant time.

They also plan to question again a 31-year-old Nigerian woman arrested in Glasgow last year as a suspect.

Joyce Asaguede, whose daughters aged six and seven were in care, was held after she rang Strathclyde social services and allegedly told them she wanted her daughters back "so she could sacrifice them".

Clothes in her flat came from the same store in Germany as the shorts Adam was wearing. Friends allege she was part of a sect that believed in human sacrifice.

Police at first thought she was a relative of the dead boy but a DNA test eliminated her. She denied knowledge of the murder.

Mrs Asaguede was later deported after making a bogus asylum application. She has settled in Benin City, in the heart of the region where the team is concentrating investigations.

D.I. O'Reilly says: "We still think she knows something about this case, even if she was not directly involved."

Mr Baker says: "We know this investigation is an enormous task but a little boy has been murdered in shocking circumstances.

"We owe it to him and his parents, who may not even know that harm has befallen him, to do everything we can to get to the bottom of this. We are committed to tracking down his killers and bringing them to justice."


http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:06 AM
Voodoo has been practised in Haiti since the late 18th Century, but only now has it been recognised as a religion on a par with others worshipped in the country.

Haiti's Catholic President, Jean- Bertrand Aristide, took the decision earlier in April which means that voodoo ceremonies such as marriages now have equal standing with Catholic ones.

The mixture of gods and goddesses and Catholic saints is an integral part of Haitian life - one common saying is that Haitians are 70% Catholic, 30% Protestant, and 100% voodoo.

"We've always been the majority religion in Haiti - it's never been illegal to be a voodooisant," said Mambu Racine Sumbu, an American voodoo priestess who has been practising in Haiti for 15 years.

She told the BBC World Service's Reporting Religion programme: "What President Aristide has done for us, for which we are very thankful, is to facilitate us in obtaining the status that we need to perform legally-binding religious ceremonies."

'Great beauty'

Haitian voodoo acquired a poor reputation internationally during the dictatorships of the voodoo physician, Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier, and his son, Jean-Claude, or "Baby Doc".

US Presidents John F Kennedy - whose assassination Papa Doc claimed "credit" for following the placing of a voodoo curse upon him - and Jimmy Carter condemned the regimes for using voodoo to repress their people.

But Priestess Sumbu said that proper use of voodoo had little to do with such oppression.

"Much of the image that people have of Haiti is based on anti- voodoo propaganda," she said.

"Our religion is a religion of great power and beauty.

"What President Aristide's decree has done for us is to give us the same legal status as other religions in Haiti, but we have always been the majority religion - over 90% of Haitians are voodooisant.

"So now we're hoping to obtain something to allow us to set up our own schools, our own hospitals and so forth.

"This is the first step."

'Hollywood view'

Leslie Griffiths, one time head of the British Methodist Church and a renowned expert on Haiti, said he also welcomed the decision.

"Voodoo is part of the air that Haitians breathe," he said.

"Contrary to what Western believers might think, it's not all that bad.

"There are excesses that are committed in the name of voodoo that everybody - including some voodoo worshippers - would take some position against.

"But on the whole, it's not at all unusual for people to be both in the world of voodoo and in the world of Roman Catholicism."

And he attacked the stereotypical view of voodoo as a sort of black magic cult.

"Frankly this Hollywood view is one of the first things people need to disabuse themselves of," he said.

"Ninety-five percent of voodoo is simply the invoking of spirits to help people survive what is sometimes a very difficult life, and sometimes to ease and placate what is a very distant God.

"I believe that the mystique of voodoo has existed because it isn't official.

"Now it has been given an official position, how much will they contribute? What social attitudes will develop?"

Over 90% of Haitians are said to practice voodoo

Ninety-five percent of voodoo is simply the invoking of spirits to help people survive what is sometimes a very difficult life Voodoo expert Leslie Griffiths


http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:08 AM
Here is more on the Hosanna Church that I linked above:

http://www.rickross.com/groups/hosanna.html


I think we should expose these pedophiles, I don't care WHAT religion, race, or shoe size they believe, are or wear.

Ok, you expose what you want to expose and i will expose what i want to expose...

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:09 AM
Respectable professionals accused of belonging to satanist coven that masterminded 16 killings by illiterate farmer

John Hooper in Rome

Friday January 23, 2004

The Guardian

The suspects are outwardly respectable professionals. A lawyer, a retired village chemist, a former university medical professor specialising in dermatology and sexually transmitted diseases. The setting is the rolling hills of Chianti. And their alleged crime is one that could lie at the heart of one of Umberto Eco's esoteric thrillers.

The men are accused of belonging to a satanist coven that masterminded Italy's most notorious serial killings - 16 murders carried out between 1968 and 1985, and blamed on a "Monster of Florence".

Four people have been cautioned as suspects and, on Monday, the home of one of those formally placed under investigation was raided by police at dawn.

Extracts from the search warrant issued were published yesterday by the newspaper Corriere della Sera. In it, the prosecutors state that the Monster of Florence murders were the work of a "split-level" conspiracy. The killing was done by an semi-literate farmer, Pietro Pacciani, and two other men who were convicted and sentenced in the late 1990s. "But a group of people who celebrated black masses and magical rites put the weapons into their hands", the warrant added.

The 16 killings have long intrigued amateur detectives. The failure of the police to catch the murderer became, for many, a symbol of the ineffectiveness of the Italian state. After the arrest and indictment of Pacciani, the extraordinary progress of his case was just as emblematic of the vagaries of Italy's snail- paced justice.

Pacciani was found guilty by the Florence assize court in 1994. Two years later, his alleged accomplices were arrested, but the very next day he himself was freed on appeal. His release was then overturned by the supreme court which ordered a retrial. Pacciani died, a free man, in 1998.

All the "Monster" victims were couples, several of whom were making love in a quiet country spot when the killer struck. At an early stage, there was speculation the murders might have a ritual, as well as a sexual, aspect. Eighteen year-old Stefania Pettini, for example, who was found in a parked car at Borgo San Lorenzo, north of Florence, in 1974, was left spread-eagled by the killer with a vine branch protruding from her mutilated vagina.

But, though hints of an occult connection cropped up repeatedly in the tortuous police investigation, none was made to stick. The latest, sensational twist arose from an investigation by police and prosecutors in Perugia into a loan-sharking ring. While listening in on a telephone call made by one of the suspects, investigators heard a borrower told that "If you don't pay up, you'll end up like the doctor on [Lake] Trasimeno". This could only be a reference to Francesco Narducci, a 36- year-old doctor whose dead body was found floating on the lake in 1985.

His death had not been treated as murder but his body was recently exhumed and examined by pathologists. His family's lawyer said last night that they had found no signs of violence. However, according to reports in the Italian media yesterday, police have found evidence that he had dabbled in the occult and had come into contact with a number of people whose names had cropped up on the margins of the investigation.

They now believe Dr Narducci was the 17th victim of the Chianti killers - that he was murdered and dumped in the lake to prevent him from revealing the group's chilling secrets. The police findings have been incorporated into a separate probe of the killings being carried out by a 13-strong squad of officers based in Florence.

It is now known that two earlier, independent investigations also pointed to a satanist link. One was carried out by a French private detective who was called in to investigate the deaths of the "Monster's" last victims, Nadine Mauriot and Jean Kaveichvili. He concluded that they had travelled to Italy to take part in satanic rituals.

The other investigation was carried out by the civil arm of the Italian secret services. It was finished in 1985, but for reasons that have never been made clear it was not given to either the police or the courts and only came to light two years ago. This report too concluded the killings had a strong ritual, occult element.

Monday's raid was on the home of a retired chemist in San Casciano, where prosecutors believe the coven was based. According to reports yesterday, police spent 12 hours at the house and left with 10 large boxes full of documents, address books and pornographic videos.

The 60-year-old suspect sold his business and retired five years ago to devote himself to painting. His lawyer, Gabriele Zanobini, said: "I have yet to see the [court] papers, but I have known my client for 10 years [and] I am certain that he has nothing to do with this business."

San Casciano's parish priest, Father Renzo Polidori, was quoted by Corriere della Sera as saying the suspect had had an unhappy private life. His son had got involved with drugs and he was separated from his wife. Father Renzo said the man had donated one of his works of art to the church. They were, he said, "strange, dark drawings, full of suffering".

17 years of terror

August 21 1968: The killers strike for the first time, murdering Barbara Locci and Antonio Lo Bianco, in a cul de sac near a cemetery on the night of a new moon. Locci's young son, who was in the car in which his mother was killed, is found later on a farmer's doorstep, having been left there by murderer.
September 14 1974 Stefania Pettini and Pasquale Gentilcore are murdered in a gun and knife attack.
June 6 1981 Carmela Di Nuccio and Giovanni Foggi, the third double murder in which the female victim has her genitals cut out.
September 22 1981 Stefano Baldi and Susanna Campi. Once again the murdered woman is sexually mutilated.
June 19 1982 Antonella Migliorini and Paolo Mainardi. Unlike the others, they realise they are about to be attacked and try to flee in their car, but in vain.
September 9 1983 The first foreign victims, German tourists Horst Wilhelm Meyer and Uwe Rusch Sens. Their bodies are found in a camper van.
June 29 1984 Claudio Stefanacci and Pia Rontini. This time the murderer not only cuts out the genitals of his female victim but cuts off her left breast in what becomes a hallmark of the Monster's savagery.
September 8 1985 The last killings, of two French visitors, Nadine Mauriot and her husband, Jean Michel Kraveicvili. Ms Mauriot is also mutilated after she is killed

http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

that one guy
04-03-2012, 04:10 AM
Sheikh Salim, Anwar Ali Khan and Simon Weissand kicked cans, took names, made the child-killer wet his drawers, ate his cookies, and then they made the world a safer place for all humanity!

I do love stories that end like this. Those three are truly Juke Box Heroes! The real Simon Pure! :D

It's sad how people can read either the Bible or Satanic Bible or ANY religious text and go out killing their own kind like this. The same goes for whatever might've influenced Edward Crowley. It's not God or the Devil because it's just a crazy person.

A jerk is a jerk is a jerk. It doesn't matter what they read because they'll just turn it into another excuse to murder a bunch of people. Take this one for example:

Satanic teen killer Ricky Kasso was a long time patient at the Amityville Asylum for the insane (Renamed South Oaks). In regard to Kasso's time in Amityville Rolling Stone magazine (11/22/84) said, "They told the doctors of his grave digging, daily use of hallucinogens and other drugs, suicide attempts and jokes, threatening behavior. The psychiatrists found Kasso to be 'antisocial,' but not 'presently psychotic,' and let him go."

Ricky Kasso a resident of Amityville. A friend of Kasso's said at his funeral, " He told me the way he got out of South Oaks Hospital (Formerly named the Amityville Asylum). He bullshitted. When he went in, they believed he worshiped Satan and shit, and he told the doctors that he was fine, that he was gonna go back to school and doesn't believe in Satan anymore, and he bullshit the doctor so much, they finally believed him ... and they let him go."

Ricky Kasso was involved in Satanism and a group of like minded teens called the "Knights of the Black Circle." "In June 1984 in Northport, New York, Ricky Kasso and James Troiano were accused of killing 17-year-old Gary Lauwers by gouging his eyes out and stabbing him 17 times during a three-hour torture session. At the end of the ordeal, Kasso and Troiano forced Lauwers to say, "I love you Satan" ...Kasso had previously become obsessed with black magic and Satanism (after reading LaVey's Satanic Bible) and after the murder was openly boasting of his human sacrifice. Kasso confessed to the murder and later hanged himself. Troiano was acquitted of second-degree murder."

Friend Mark Fisher said "Ricky was of the devil. When he was on acid, he'd go back into the dark woods, up in Aztakea, and he would talk to the devil. He said the devil came into the form of a tree, which sprouted out of the ground and glowed." Kasso and the "Knights of the Black Circle" did many strange things in western Suffolk County. They would have ceremonies where they had animal sacrifices to the Devil and according to Kasso they he did a "Human sacrifice." Claim of black creatures in demonic activity in Suffolk County goes back to the witchcraft trial of Goody Garlick in 1657. At the trial it was said there was a black cat. For Kasso, he said a black crow said to him at the human sacrifice to kill.

Kasso was arrested for grave robbing. He dug up a 19th century grave so that he could use the skull for a ceremony. All we will ever know for sure is the tip of the iceberg, most of what they did we will never know about. It is speculated that some of the area's missing children were his victims. Because Kasso killed himself we will never know for sure. The kids in Western Suffolk County are very secretive, and the New York Times said, "In the following weeks one of those remaining teens -- young Ricky Kasso -- would lead a series of tours' to the body for local teens -- all of whom held a steadfast conspiracy of silence against the town's adult population." In this area kids follow "The Code" whereby they do not tell. For two weeks almost all the kids in the area knew of what Kasso said was a "Human Sacrifice," but the police did not know for two weeks. Finally a girl overheard other girls talking about it and she called the police. If she was told this, instead of overhearing it, the likelihood is that she would not of told either as it would of violated the code.

Same thing - a crazy guy reads something and turns it into an excuse. I've no sympathy for the parents that may (or may not) have raised the boy. It's very clear they did a piss-poor job.

Read the Bible or Satanic Bible or et al and tell me if you urge to kill. So is it Satan (who's probably not such a bad person if he/she exists)... or is it just a human?

It's just a human isn't it...?

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:11 AM
DETECTIVES trying to establish a motive for the murder of a parish councillor found floating in the sea off Cornwall are investigating his links to the occult.

Peter Solheim, 56, a retired printer who collected antique guns, was a member of pagan group which worshipped at Cornwall’s ancient stone circles. Members of the group say that he left them after developing an interest in the occult.

The body of Mr Solheim, a divorced father of three, was recovered by fishermen five miles off the Lizard peninsula on June 18. Police initially believed that he had been the victim of a boating accident because his dinghy had been found drifting in Mylor Harbour three miles away the previous day.

A post-mortem examination found “unexplained” injuries on the body and experts told police that it was not feasible for the two to have drifted so far apart.

Detectives confirmed yesterday that Mr Solheim’s pagan background is one of their lines of inquiry. They are also appealing for information about a man called Charlie who had a boat Mr Solheim had said he planned to use.

Detective Inspector Neil Best, who is leading the investigation, said: “Charlie could be very significant because he may have been the last person to see Mr Solheim alive.” Detective Sergeant John Trott, of Devon and Cornwall Police, said yesterday: “His interest in the occult has been made known to us. It is a line of inquiry that we are now pursuing. His injuries are still unexplained, but at this stage we are unable to go into more detail as it could be crucial to the investigation.”

Mr Solheim’s deepening interest in dark arts alarmed members of his former druid group based at St Merryn who were content to dance around stone circles. They say that he left the group five years ago and began to practise rituals on his own.

One member, who asked not to be named, said: “He started to get involved with satanism and liked to go off and perform rituals on his own. He was always making knives and swords, and he showed them to us. We all became really worried about him.

“Once he tried to perform black magic spells on two other people, and that really upset them. I don’t know what his rituals involved, but he would always do them on his own. Eventually he stopped coming to gatherings.”

Mr Solheim, a member of Budock Parish Council, had been unemployed for the past few years, having been injured in an industrial accident in a printworks. He lived in Carnkie, near Helston, with his new partner. His three adult children also live in the village.


http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:14 AM
Detectives investigating the death of a Cornish parish councillor have confirmed they are looking at possible links with the occult.

They believe 56-year-old Peter Solheim, from Carnkie, was interested in black magic.

Police launched the murder hunt after fishermen recovered Mr Solheim's body five miles off the Lizard Peninsula, Cornwall, on 18 June.

He was last seen launching his dinghy at Mylor Harbour on 16 June.

A Devon and Cornwall Police spokeswoman said: "We are aware of his interest in the occult and it is one of a number of lines of inquiry we are following up."

The Arch Druid of Cornwall, Ed Prynn, has confirmed to the BBC that Mr Solheim was also a druid.

Mr Prynn said: "He was such a nice guy. We used to talk a lot about boating and fishing.

"He was a wonderful story teller, it's only just sunk in what has happened"

But he said: "I always teach people not to dabble with the occult, the darker side".

Officers questioned more than 200 people at Mylor on Thursday.

Police said the operation led to about a dozen lines of inquiry which merited further investigation.

Members of Cornwall's druid community are expected to be interviewed in connection with Mr Solheim's interests.

Although Mr Solheim drowned, a post-mortem examination revealed a number of "unexplained injuries" on his body.

Police said his small white dinghy - with its key in the ignition - was spotted drifting in Mylor harbour by a local boatman on 17 June.

Police want to hear from a man called Charlie who it is thought Mr Solheim was going to meet at the time of his disappearance.

An examination of Mr Solheim's body revealed he had not been in the water long when he was found.

This and the fact that his 18ft fishing boat, the Izzwizz, was found floating in Carrick Roads led officers to start the murder inquiry.

Police said it was "not feasible" that the body could have floated from Mylor to the spot where it was found.


http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:16 AM
A ROYAL Navy frigate commander who agreed to let a member of his crew practise Satanism on board the ship yesterday won the full support of the Ministry of Defence.

Captain Russell Best, commanding officer of HMS Cumberland, a Type 22 frigate, officially recognised Leading Hand Chris Cranmer, 24, as a Devil-worshipping member of his complement after full consultation with the ship’s chaplain, the MoD said.

It is the first instance of its kind in the history of the Royal Navy. The naval technician, who has recently returned with his ship from a tour of duty in the Gulf and the Indian Ocean, has been allowed to perform Satanic rituals and other acts that conform to the creed of Satanism.

The MoD said that Captain Best was entirely within his rights to concede to his request to be registered as a Satanist. “There is nothing in the Queen’s Regulations that forbids practising Satanism and people are entitled to their own religious beliefs,” it said.

The unmarried naval technician, 24, from Edinburgh, said that being a Satanist gave him “the freedom of religion I wanted. despite its controversial nature.

“I didn’t want to feel I couldn’t get out my Satanic Bible and relax in bed. I didn’t want to bite my tongue any more when dealing with idiots,” he told The Sunday Telegraph.

The MoD said that it was an equal opportunities employer and, provided that the Satanism practised on board HMS Cumberland did not “impinge on the operational effectiveness of the crew or its morale in any way”, there was no reason why Captain Best should not have agreed to the request by Leading Hand Cranmer.

However, Ann Widdecombe, the former Tory minister, said that the decision was “utterly shocking”. “Satanism is wrong,” she said. “Obviously, the private beliefs of individuals anywhere, including the Armed Forces, are their own affair, but I hope it doesn’t spread. God himself gives free will, but I would like to think that if somebody applied to the Navy and said he was a Satanist today it would raise eyebrows somewhat.”

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:17 AM
"Mr. Goodman: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what his policy is with regard to the practice of Satanism in the armed forces; and if he will make a statement.

[194205] Mr. Caplin: A person's beliefs are essentially a private matter."

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:21 AM
Friday, March 7, 2008

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=112494&in_page_id=34

Stacey Mitchell

Two lesbian lovers, one who drank blood as part of a vampire culture, have been sentenced to life in prison for killing a British teenager they bludgeoned to death with a concrete block.

Jessica Stasinowsky, 21, and Valerie Parashumti, 19, pleaded guilty to murdering 16-year-old Stacey Mitchell in Perth, Western Australia, in 2006 because she was annoying.

Judge Peter Blaxell said the murder was "sexually perverse" and "evil", after the court was told the two lesbian lovers became sexually aroused as they battered the teenage girl and then kissed while standing over her body as she lay dying.

British-born Stacey, who had emigrated to Australia from Dorset, had moved into a house the lovers were sharing.

Stasinowsky immediately hated her because she thought the teenager was flirting with her lover, the court heard.

Parashumti felt the need to prove that Stacey meant nothing to her, so she and Stasinowsky decided to kill her.

On the day of the murder, the trio drank whiskey in the kitchen and Stacey took tablets which made her drowsy.

Parashumti crept up behind Stacey and started hitting her on the head with a concrete slab, while Stasinowsky took off a dog chain belt and began to strangle her.

Stacey took at least 45 minutes to die, but Stasinowsky later told a prison officer she wished it had lasted longer.

The killers made a mobile phone video of the murder scene, laughing and mocking their victim, and then dumped her body upside down in a garbage bin in a back shed.

Parashumti, who drank blood as part of a vampire subculture, was said to have very strong sexual sadistic tendencies and was sexually aroused by physical torture and violence.

According to the Australian Associated Press, Judge Blaxell said when handing down the life sentences: "You have each had more than a year in custody to reflect upon the evilness of your crime, yet you still lack remorse and obviously place no value on the sanctity of human life

"There is also the added problem that you each enjoy being sexually aroused by the infliction of violence.

"Even more appalling are your admissions to the effect that at the time of the murder you were each sexually excited by the violence of the event."

Lesbian 'vampire' lovers jailed for teen murder



http://www.bilderberg.org/sacrific.htm#Father

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:28 AM
It's just a human isn't it...?

Why would it just be a human when it is a practising devil worshipping Satanist? yet when its a christian its a christian?

And lets face it, i challenge anyone to come up with more horrific, cult related, grotesque, wierd, ritualistic crimes than the ones being documented on this thread and where they have been investigated and found 'guilty as charged'....

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:33 AM
As seen on the tatoo of the Satanic murderer John Katehis






http://www.bilderberg.org/shengen.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:36 AM
http://www.bilderberg.org/lucis.htm













"The great strength of our Order lies in its concealment; let it never appear in any place in its own name, but always covered by another name, and another occupation".

"Of all the means I know to lead men, the most effectual is a concealed mystery. The hankering of the mind is irresistible;" Adam Weishaupt (code-name Spartacus)

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:40 AM
A whole webpage with videos, links, sources and information exposing the evil doers that infiltrate with deciet and lies and blame it on religion












http://www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm

that one guy
04-03-2012, 04:44 AM
Why would it just be a human when it is a practising devil worshipping Satanist? yet when its a christian its a christian?

And lets face it, i challenge anyone to come up with more horrific, cult related, grotesque, wierd, ritualistic crimes than the ones being documented on this thread and where they have been investigated and found 'guilty as charged'....

Even if a Christian does the murder... then they are still just a human.

All it takes is for some angry person to open their Bible up to the Old Testament and "reason" their murders as justifiable.

I'll say it again: A jerk is a jerk is a jerk.

That is why we don't arrest the Satanic Bible when someone like Ricky Kasso murders someone. The responsibility lies with the murderer.

Next week someone on this forum will start screaming about the evils of Dr. Pepper just because some killer happened to be associated with the drink. :rolleyes:

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 04:46 AM
Here is some more information from Rick Ross (cult specialist)-about the Satanist-Pedophiles and other crimes committed by Satanists.

http://www.rickross.com/groups/satanism.html

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 04:58 AM
Even if a Christian does the murder... then they are still just a human.

All it takes is for some angry person to open their Bible up to the Old Testament and "reason" their murders as justifiable.

I'll say it again: A jerk is a jerk is a jerk.

That is why we don't arrest the Satanic Bible when someone like Ricky Kasso murders someone. The responsibility lies with the murderer.

Next week someone on this forum will start screaming about the evils of Dr. Pepper just because some killer happened to be associated with the drink. :rolleyes:

Trouble is that a lot of the crap we know about Christianity and other religions could actually be handed down by Satanism.

Indeed as early as the mid 1700's conspiracy theories about the Illuminati altering religion where well in circulation, it was just they did not have internet in those days.

Indeed it was a man born in early 1700's named 'John Robinson' a Scientist from Edinburgh first exposed the Illuminati as being a Satanic organisation corrupting religion for their own ends....You would have to know your Scottish history of this era to know just how true this is



John Robison (1739-1805) was a Scottish scientist, who late in life wrote the one of the definitive studies of the Bavarian Illuminati. He was a contemporary and collaborator with James Watt, with whom he worked on an early steam car, contributor to the 1797 Encylopedia Britannica, professor of philosophy at the University of Edinburgh, and inventor of the siren.

Although Robison was very much an advocate of science and rationalism, in later life, disillusioned by the French Revolution, he became an ardent monarchist. In this work, Proofs of a Conspiracy, Robison laid the groundwork for modern conspiracy theorists by implicating the Bavarian Illuminati as responsible for the excesses of the French Revolution. The Bavarian Illuminati, a rationalist secret society, was founded by Adam Weishaupt in 1776 in what is today Germany. They had an inner core of true believers, who secretly held radical atheist, anti-monarchist and possibly proto-feminist views, at that time considered beyond the pale. They recruited by infiltrating the numerous (and otherwise benign) Freemasonic groups which were active at the time on the continent. Necessarily they had a clandestine, compartmentalized, hierarchical organizational form, which has led some modern conspiracy theorists to identify them as the original Marxist-Leninist group. However, this is most likely simply a case of parallel evolution.

Since we don't have convenient access to the source documents of the Bavarian Illuminati we have to rely on Robison and the Abbé Barruel's Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism, both in the 'opposing views' category, for information on this group. The Illuminati have today become a byword for a secret society which hoodwinks its junior members and puppet-masters society at large. This reputation is in no little part due to Robison's book. However, reading between the lines, it becomes obvious that the Bavarian Illuminati were what the American Old Left called a 'talk shop,' barely able to organize a picnic, let alone the Terror. Instead, it seems, they were only expressing views widespread in intellectual circles of the day. They were not, as Robison claims, the fuse that lit the downfall of the French Monarchy. Nonetheless, this book make fascinating reading, and in conjunction with other historical accounts of the French Revolution, helps dimensionalize the period for students of history.

Production Notes: This text was scanned from the retypeset 1967 Americanist Classics reprint, and the page numbering is from that edition. The 1967 edition modernized the typography systematically, except on the dedication page (particularly, substituting 's' for ƒ) but left the original spelling intact. Note that the 1967 edition makes no additional copyright claim on Robison's text (only on their modern introduction, which I have omitted). US copyright law requires extensive creative changes to a public domain text to allow a new claim of copyright. I have corrected in the usual way a few obvious typos (which may have been introduced in the 1967 edition), but all of the non-conforming spelling has been tacitly preserved. I have also added a (public domain) translation of the Latin epigram on the dedication page.




http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/pc/index.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 05:03 AM
This photo might be of interest. I took it last Summer (2005) at Holker Hall Garden Festival and it shows clearly the Cavendish logo of the snake with a crown on its head!!

This serpent logo is everywhere on the estate and in the house. It is built into decorative mosaics in the garden and is printed on every piece of stationary in the shop etc. etc.

Rumour has it that Lord Cavendish slept in a coffin and that must relate to high level Free Masonic rituals or something like that. A friend who is very aware of these things looked at the house and spotted the copper roofed turret room that is central to the huge building and he said that he wouldn't be surprised if rituals were conducted there. He also said that he suspected there would be a large underground area and this has been confirmed. A friend knows someone who works at the hall and she said that the area underneath the hall is big enough for all the Royal family to shelter in case of an emergency!!

If anyone else knows anything re Cavendish family and Illuminati connections, let me know. James Casbolt's and David Icke's descriptions of the occult rituals are so difficult to accept and understand, as they are total anathema to anyone who has a good heart and who is gentle, peaceful and compassionate as we are.

The only way I cope is to imagine whole families who have been brought up to accept the rituals as 'normal.' They also have a different DNA and can't experience emotions as we do. If we practice 'sending' them love and compassion then I am sure the positive effects will be felt deep within them.....

In peace from Pen xx

Contact: "Penny" <peacepals1(at)tesco.net>



http://www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 05:08 AM
And given police protection




Masons under anti-terror surveillance after UDA infiltrates Scottish lodges

Another freemasonic 'Meditation Room'

By Neil Mackay = Sunday Herald - 02 July 2006

MASONIC halls throughout Scotland are under covert surveillance by anti-terror police after the outlawed loyalist paramilitary group, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) successfully infiltrated the controversial secret society.

David Begg, the grand secretary of the Grand Lodge of Scotland, told the Sunday Herald that Freemasons have been advised by police that lodges throughout the country – particularly in the west of Scotland – are under surveillance by officers targeting the UDA. One Fife lodge has been penetrated by loyalist terrorists who used the premises for fund-raising and operational planning. For more than 18 months, UDA member Steven Moffat used the St Kenneth Lodge in Kennoway as a cover for loyalist paramilitary activity.

The UDA is one of Ulster’s most brutal paramilitary organisations. Using the cover-name the Ulster Freedom Fighters (UFF) it waged a campaign of sectarian assassination against Northern Ireland’s Catholics. One of its most notorious “brigadiers”, Johnny “Mad Dog” Adair, fled to Ayrshire after his expulsion from Belfast following an internecine loyalist feud.

Moffat is serving five years in jail after being imprisoned by the High Court in Edinburgh earlier this month under the Terrorism Act 2000 for membership of a proscribed organisation and possession of firearms.

He was found with a Browning 9mm automatic pistol and ammunition at his home. Police also discovered flags, balaclavas and other paramilitary regalia, including documents detailing the UDA’s initiation ceremonies.

Police and prosecutors believed the items “were for the preparation or instigation of an act of terrorism”. Moffat joined the UDA in Belfast at least three years ago.

The Mason’s Fife and Kinross provincial grand master, David Wishart, said Moffat had used the Masonic Lodge in Kennoway for UDA meetings for at least 18 months. A member of the lodge who was also in the Orange Order had arranged for Moffat and his loyalist associates to hold meetings in the Kennoway lodge. Wishart insisted that no other members knew the true nature of Moffat’s activities.

Once Moffat’s actions were discovered, the Mason and Orange Order member who assisted him resigned after being threatened with expulsion from the Masons.

“I was horrified to find out that this had been going on,” said Wishart.

Moffat, who was not a Freemason but often drank in the St Kenneth Lodge’s bar, used the Kennoway Masonic Hall for two types of meetings. Firstly, regular private “strategy” meetings with Moffat and 10 other men occurred over 18 months. The UDA members discussed their plans in a closed room while lodge members drank at the Mason’s bar in the same building.

The second type of meeting was fund-raising events for loyalist causes in Northern Ireland. Up to 70 people attended three fundraisers held at the Masonic Hall over an 18-month period.

Wishart said: “The UDA infiltrated and used us for their illegal purposes. These people are very clever. We were trusting; they gained our confidence and then we were manipulated.”

Kennoway Masonic Hall was closed for eight weeks for an internal Masonic inquiry following police raids in the area in connection with Moffat’s activities.

At the time of his arrest, Moffat was planning to hold an initiation ceremony for Scottish UDA recruits at the Masonic hall. Wishart has since altered hall letting procedures and leasing now has to be cleared by a committee and a lodge member must vouch for those letting the premises.

The Orange Order has been banned from using the Kennoway lodge’s premises. Previously, Orangemen regularly hired out the hall.

“Due to rogue members of the lodge linked to the Orange Order and the UDA we took the decision to no longer allow them the use of the premises,” said Wishart.

Senior police officers told Wishart that they were “mounting similar surveillance operations in the west of Scotland” against Masonic lodges which might have been infiltrated by loyalist terrorists.

“I can’t say if there is or isn’t a risk elsewhere,” said Wishart, pointing out that members of some of the 49 Fife lodges under his command were also in the Orange Order. One other lodge in Fife also allows the Orange Order to rent its premises for functions.

David Begg, the grand master of the Grand Lodge of Scotland, said if any lodges were involved in supporting the UDA they would be closed. He has warned Scotland’s 32 provincial masters to be extra vigilant but cannot compel lodges to introduce committee-led hall letting procedures similar to those adopted by Kennoway.

“We can’t tell lodges what to do. It is up to the trustees of each lodge but we will be producing general guidance in the near future,” he said.

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 05:10 AM
masonic police officers of black ethnicity







A FORMER top cop has blamed the influence of freemasons within the police for continuing racism in the force. The comments come as a new report found Black and Asian cops are over-disciplined.

http://www.blink.org.uk/pdescription.asp?key=5198&grp=55&cat=163

Black officers face a double- whammy of discrimination Former Flying Squad commander John O'Connor claimed today that freemasons still wield massive power within high ranks and that black people, who do not join the secretive groups, lose out in the power struggle.

Scotland Yard insider O'Connor was speaking after the launch of an inquiry report led by retired union boss Sir Bill Morris, into Met police racism.

O'Conner told BBC London that white people who did not join the masons were also at a disadvantage. He also criticised the Morris Inquiry, saying it's recommendations were not hard-hitting enough to bring about lasting change.

The Morris Inquiry has confirmed the worst suspicions of the Met's black and ethnic minority officers that they are treated far harsher than white colleagues by their managers purely on race grounds.

damage

Ethnic minority officers face glass ceilings because the reluctance of managers to pull them up on minor matters means a lack of constructive criticism and support, which "will ultimately damage career progression."

Erring on the side of caution: Sir Bill Morris The report also found that minority ethnic officers are more quickly subject to formal processes where white officers would not be so subject or they are deprived of management support vital to develop as a police officer.

The inquiry has asked Commission for Racial Equality, led by Trevor Phillips, and the Independent Police Complaints Commission to launch further investigations into discrimination.

The force has come under fire in the report from the 11-month Morris Inquiry, which surveyed its 43,000 employees. The probe by Sir Bill was launched following several investigations into allegations against officers from ethnic minorities.

grievances

Commissioned by the Metropolitan Police Authority (MPA), it examined whether ethnic minority officers were more likely to face disciplinary investigation, and whether their grievances were less likely to be dealt with than those of white colleagues.

The inquiry heard from black and Asian staff that they were disproportionately more likely to have formal complaints made against them.

The inquiry also found that the MPS has not complied with the recommendations of the Gurpal Virdi report of 2001, an embarrassment for incoming Met Commissioner Sir Ian Blair who earlier told the inquiry: "The MPS has therefore complied with all the recommendations of the Gurpal Virdi report."

The inquiry called on the MPA to convene a case conference on Gurpal Virdi and the role of Commissioner Sir John Stevens.

guilty

Mr Virdi was arrested and sacked from his job after the force claimed he had racist hate mail to himself and other officers. He was later cleared when an employment tribunal found he had been the victim of an official witchhunt against him.

The Morris inquiry also said that race played a part in the treatment of Superintendent Ali Dizaei and called for a full independent review of his case.

Dizaei, who is now borough commander in Hounslow, was the target of a £4 million investigation by his own colleagues for almost five years before being acquitted of allegations of dishonesty last year.

Giving evidence to the inquiry in June, Dizaei said: "My eating habits were of particular interest to my accusers. Ten statements were taken in the local restaurants I ate at to see whether I ate halal meat.

"A four-page statement was taken from the canteen manager as to whether I eat curry on a Thursday. Colleagues tapped his phone, involved the FBI and planted someone in his gym who was "wired up to lead me into criminality."

'Al Capone'

The inquiry slammed the Met's directorate of professional standards (DPS), headed by Blair, for its 'Al Capone' style of conducting discipline inquiries.

Anesta Weekes QC, part of the inquiry team, told Blink: "The culture within the DPS was that a number of people who gave evidence spoke of the attitude that you're guilty, so I'm going to find the evidence. Often they are not communicating how things aregoing."

The inquiry expressed concern that there was no common understanding of diversity within the force and that it remained "at worst a source of fear and anxiety and at best a process of ticking boxes".

The report also warned that efforts to promote the message of diversity could have been "counter-productive" and the force may now be experiencing a "backlash". It warned: "This would be catastrophic. The policy is right, it is the approach and the application which we believe needs to be reviewed."

Speaking at the launch today, Sir Bill Morris said: "This is a radical and ground-breaking report setting out a reforming pathway to change both within the MPS and nationally."

The 288-page document contains 37 major recommendations, including the appointment of a new civilian post at deputy commissioner level to co-ordinate and deliver all support services within the force."

bad habit

Sir Bill recommended changes for the police training centre at Hendon in north London. He said: "We are concerned that the gateway to the Metropolitan Police Service, Hendon, needs to have a greater degree of supervision and scrutiny. A bad habit picked up at Hendon can go through the career of a police officer."

Deputy Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said: "We accept that more needs to be done to support officers under investigation and to provide appropriate welfare.

"To this end we are developing a package of measures specifically for this purpose that will be delivered by a dedicated unit. I will now study the detail of the report and consider how its conclusions and recommendations can help us do this."

Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London, commented: "There is continuing racism in the police as there is in every other institution.

"Without a shadow of a doubt, some people have in the disciplinary structure focused more on their colleagues who are black or Asian. This is completely unacceptable. It is something that myself, Sir Ian Blair and others are determined must change."

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 05:12 AM
Freemasonry: Dr Rowan Williams reveals his concerns over a secret society he believes is incompatible with the Christian faith

http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=352254

By Jason Bennetto

15 November 2002

Freemasonry describes itself on its website as the "UK's largest secular, fraternal, and charitable organisation". So why does the new Archbishop of Canterbury think it is a secret society with dubious spiritual credentials?

And why does Dr Rowan Williams also believe that Church of England ministers should not belong to the Brotherhood, an organisation he describes as incompatible with Christianity?

His views will be greeted with astonishment by the significant number of senior clergymen and Christians who are members of the 350,000-strong Craft, who have organised a slick media campaign to counter bad publicity.

The Freemasons of England now have a website – www.freemasonry.net. The United Grand Lodge of England says that it is not a "secret society", but merely holds private meetings. "Freemasonry does not try to replace religion or substitute for it. Freemasonry requires a belief in God and its principles are common to many of the world's great religions," it says.

"There are elements within certain churches who misunderstand Freemasonry and confuse secular rituals with religious liturgy."

It adds that many of its members are Anglicans and Catholics and would be "dismayed that the churches should attack Freemasonry".

But some observers believe that at the heart of the Craft – and known only to those who reach the highest levels – there is a sinister quasi-religion based on a composite Masonic God, known as Jah-Bul-On.

In his 1984 book The Brotherhood, Stephen Knight turned the spotlight on the inner workings of the Masons. "I have spoken to 57 long-standing Royal Arch Freemasons [one of the most senior groups], who have been happy to talk to me.All but four lost their composure when I said, 'What about Jah-Bul-On?'," he wrote.

A spokesman for Dr Williams said yesterday that many Christians believed that Jah-Bul-On was considered to refer to the "incarnation of Satan". He added that the Masons promised in the 1980s to drop any reference to Jah-Bul-On because of the offence it was causing.

In a letter to Hugh Sinclair, a man who for years has been investigating the Brotherhood, Dr Williams said: "I have real misgivings about the compatibility of Masonry and Christian profession." He later said he questioned whether it was "appropriate for Christian ministers to belong to secret organisations" and expressed "anxiety about the spiritual content of Masonry".

He also raised the issue of "back scratching" and the possible debt clergymen may feel towards fellow members of the Craft. The relationship between Freemasons and the Catholic and Anglican churches has been a complex and at times a fraught one.

Dr Williams' spokesman said: "From the end of the 19th century a lot of Anglican clergy got involved in Freemasonry. In the 20th century a number of very senior clergymen were Masons. In the 1960s people started turning against the idea of secret societies and a number of Anglican ministers saw it as possibly Satanically inspired."

The influence of the Brotherhood within the Church of England has continued and the Freemasons acknowledge that many clergymen and Anglicans are members.

Leading Mason Church of England clergymen of the past include the former Archbishop of Canterbury Geoffrey Fisher, who headed the Church of England from 1945 to 1961. He held the senior post of Grand Chaplain for the United Grand Lodge of England.

Robert Milburn, the former Dean of Worcester, held the same senior Masonic post as the Archbishop.

John Habgood, the former Archbishop of York, told the General Synod that he believed Freemasonry was a "fairly harmless eccentricity" and later expressed the view that he did not see any conflict in being a Mason and a Christian.

In July 1987 the General Synod, the governing body of the Church of England, ducked the issue when bishops endorsed a report looking into whether being a Christian and a Freemason were compatible.

A working party concluded that Freemasons who belonged to the church did not think there was a problem, while non-Masons thought there were difficulties. The issue has not been debated since.

At one stage Catholics were banned from being Freemasons, but the two are no longer seen as incompatible providing Catholics belong to a British branch of the Masons.

Critics believe this is partly due to the influence of members of the Brotherhood within the Catholic church.

gerrardthor
04-03-2012, 05:13 AM
I am a lurker and must say this is the worst lack of discussion possible.

Are you just searching the web and hitting ctrl + c and ctrl + v and spamming it into a thread?

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 05:21 AM
I am a lurker and must say this is the worst lack of discussion possible.

Are you just searching the web and hitting ctrl + c and ctrl + v and spamming it into a thread?

I am just making the information available and spreading the truth

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 05:21 AM
Ok, you expose what you want to expose and i will expose what i want to expose...

:eek:

That sounds more like a proposition than a deal.


:D

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 05:24 AM
http://www.bilderberg.org/secret.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 05:28 AM
As America's military involvement abroad deepens, profits are increasing for the Carlyle Group -- and, it turns out, for thousands of California civil servants.

The Carlyle who, you ask?

The Carlyle Group, as in a secretive Washington, D.C., investment firm managing some $14 billion in assets, including stakes in a number of defense- related companies.

Carlyle counts among its chieftains former Defense Secretary (and deputy CIA Director) Frank Carlucci, former Secretary of State James Baker and, most notably, former President George Bush.

Until October, the Carlyle Group also maintained financial ties with none other than the family of Osama bin Laden, but those links were severed when it was agreed that the relationship was becoming a tad embarrassing for all concerned.

What is not well known is that Carlyle's profits also benefit the 1.2 million members of the California Public Employees Retirement System, or CalPERS, the largest public pension fund in the United States.

CalPERS has about $730 million invested in Carlyle itself and in various Carlyle funds. It owns 5.5 percent of the Carlyle Group in a minority equity stake and has an option to double that holding during the next two years.

"We're not too keen on discussing anything related to the political nature of the people at Carlyle," said Pat Macht, a spokeswoman for the fund. But she noted that "Carlyle is among the top five largest private equity partners of CalPERS."

Senior Carlyle officials are scheduled to brief CalPERS' investment committee later this month in Sacramento on the performance of the company's assets.

The Carlyle Group has cultivated and enjoyed a decidedly low profile for the past 14 years. Yet it has succeeded in attracting to its ranks not just a who's who of Republican bigwigs but also a dazzling array of international politicos.

John Major, the former British prime minister, is a Carlyle adviser, as are former Philippine President Fidel Ramos and former Thai Premier Anand Panyarachun. So is a former president of Germany's Bundesbank and a former head of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

Connected? That's an understatement where Carlyle is concerned. And because the Carlyle Group remains privately held, it is not required to disclose details of its investments or business activities. It is commonly known, though, that the firm favors the defense and aerospace sectors, with a wide array of investments in Pentagon affiliates.

"Their defense holdings are quite extensive," said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, a Washington public interest law firm. "Because of their investments, they are a major contractor for the Pentagon."

Among Carlyle's holdings is United Defense Industries, a maker of armed vehicles and weapons, which filed in October to raise up to $300 million in an initial public offering of its shares.

Judicial Watch filed suit last week to obtain documents shedding light on Carlyle business activities undertaken by President Bush's father, who reportedly met with bin Laden's family in Saudi Arabia at least twice prior to the Sept. 11 attacks. He also has had dealings with a variety of foreign governments.

"The appearance is awful," Fitton said. "For the father of our current president to be doing business with foreign governments, there is a clear conflict of interest."

Carlyle spokesman Chris Ullman said the elder Bush does little more than give speeches on Carlyle's behalf when abroad and does not call up his son to lobby for Carlyle's business interests.

Ullman also said there is nothing improper about the Carlyle Group's phenomenal political connections throughout the world.

"These are all former government officials who have chosen to team with us in various capacities," he said. "I stress the fact that they are former government officials."

Critics of the Carlyle Group have grown increasingly vocal in recent weeks, particularly over the perception that a private organization with unmistakable links to the White House is benefiting from America's military action in Afghanistan.

Because the Carlyle Group is partly owned by CalPERS, the company's fortunes are shared not just by the political elite -- is there really such a thing as a former politician? -- but also by hundreds of thousands of California bureaucrats and school officials.

CalPERS' investment in Carlyle has steadily earned between 20 and 30 percent per year in returns -- not too shabby considering the recent performance of publicly listed companies.

On the other hand, CalPERS is watching closely now that the Carlyle Group has quietly become a player in Bay Area real estate circles -- a move that could cost the company a bundle following the implosion of commercial property values.

In San Francisco, Carlyle bought and subsequently sold a 25-story office tower at 180 Montgomery St. The company also bought and rapidly discarded office space in Pleasanton and Redwood City, and recently acquired additional office space in Sunnyvale, San Jose, Brisbane and Mountain View.

"We've been pretty busy," Ullman said of Carlyle's Bay Area real estate deals.

As for CalPERS, he said the Carlyle Group values its relationship with its California co-owners.

"Their participation is very important to us," Ullman said. "They're an important part of our team. We're going to do our best to make sure their money is invested wisely."

And in light of current events, CalPERS has every reason to expect the returns to be enormous.


http://www.bilderberg.org/secret.htm

gerrardthor
04-03-2012, 05:31 AM
I am just making the information available and spreading the truth

You have supporting arguments but no real thesis - i seem to miss the point of this

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 05:35 AM
You have supporting arguments but no real thesis - i seem to miss the point of this

i have supporting arguments?

Have you read the links?

All those Satanic killings are from cults been found guilty in courts of law and have been exposed by news agencies and tv companies...

The point is exposing Satanic ritual abuse, torture and peadophilia..

If you found things on the internet that 99% of people are in denial about, would you not also do the right thing and expose it?

I am just trying to make people aware of what is really going on, and the stuff that is being kept swept under the carpet from us...is this so bad?

gerrardthor
04-03-2012, 05:40 AM
What are we supposed to do about people doing terrible things though? Spam forums?

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 05:41 AM
What are we supposed to do about people doing terrible things though? Spam forums?

Well spreading the info would help.


I see all of a sudden people are not so sickened by child abuse anymore!

gerrardthor
04-03-2012, 05:46 AM
You may have ninja'd me but I'll just go ahead and say the following:

And where does Pope John Paul II stand in all of this? Pope John Paul II has stated that we are definitely in the end times. He says that "the signs are clear"! The Pope has expressed concerns that his successor will be "the final pope" and the "anti-pope". The anti-pope is a person who will betray true Catholicism and Christianity as part of a pact with "Lucifer" and a future world government.

I read this basically and started skimming and it seemed you were just continuously pasting articles into a thread and it seemed to me you were ignoring any one actually trying to engage in discussion with you.

With what I quoted, do we really care what kind of thoughts the Pope has about such a silly thing as end times?

I have a point and that basically I don't see a point.

I don't see a point in creating more hysteria that the world is supposedly going to end.

What I try to put my faith into is that we'll enter a golden age of enlightenment and compassion.

Silly wishing?

Sure.

But its better than wishing that the world will end and satanists are going to haul true christians off to ovens and jesus is going to come skateboarding in on a cloud just in the nick of time.

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 05:46 AM
Well spreading the info would help.


I see all of a sudden people are not so sickened by child abuse anymore!

I am all for outing these pedophiles!

Keep up the good work Blacky!

gerrardthor
04-03-2012, 05:50 AM
I'm not trying to troll - im trying to instigate discussion. i apologize if i came off as condescending.

these are sickening articles. I just couldn't see a point in something that I know is already going and supporting end of the world arguments.

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 05:53 AM
You may have ninja'd me but I'll just go ahead and say the following:



I read this basically and started skimming and it seemed you were just continuously pasting articles into a thread and it seemed to me you were ignoring any one actually trying to engage in discussion with you.

With what I quoted, do we really care what kind of thoughts the Pope has about such a silly thing as end times?



This is why i am ignoring conversation.

The danger is that we begin talking and arguing about something i dont want to argue about as this thread is about making people aware that Satanic cults really do exist, and contrary to belief, there is PLENTY of cases of this in courts of law, and even certain world governments are very concerned about the growing trend of Satanic related crimes of grotesque and ritualistic nature....

Also this needs to be highlighted, as for some reason this information does not seem to appear on a standard google search, and instead you have to use different wording, unlike with other religions where you just type in 'Christian/muslim peadophiles' and it all comes up...

Obviously someone working for google has deliberately changed the wording of what comes up in a google search regarding this subject...there is no other reason for it, because everything else on google comes up quite easy with a standard search

gerrardthor
04-03-2012, 05:55 AM
This is why i am ignoring conversation.

The danger is that we begin talking and arguing about something i dont want to argue about as this thread is about making people aware that Satanic cults really do exist, and contrary to belief, there is PLENTY of cases of this in courts of law, and even certain world governments are very concerned about the growing trend of Satanic related crimes of grotesque and ritualistic nature....

Also this needs to be highlighted, as for some reason this information does not seem to appear on a standard google search, and instead you have to use different wording, unlike with other religions where you just type in 'Christian/muslim peadophiles' and it all comes up...

Obviously someone working for google has deliberately changed the wording of what comes up in a google search regarding those subjects...there is no other reason for it, because everything else on google comes up quite easy with a standard search

I'll look into this further when I'm not skimming things.

This stuff should be known.

I just have this gut reaction against these kind of allegations because of a certain jack chick book i read.

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 06:02 AM
I'll look into this further when I'm not skimming things.

This stuff should be known.

I just have this gut reaction against these kind of allegations because of a certain jack chick book i read.

Well all the articles are matter of fact, supported by the fact that most of those individuals are now doing life behind bars.

Some of them where under huge police investigation and found to be part of major satanic cult groups operating in force

There was other posts i could have posted too, but declined as it was speculation, not fact

exu156
04-03-2012, 06:27 AM
Let's review:

You started with: 'Satan worshipping peadophiles' taken from aztlan.net. This site is the usual pedling of conspiracy theories, anti-Jewish ramblings and all the other usual nonsense that basically gets thrown at anyone that is not a Christian. Look around the site, its a real eye opener.

Then you gave us: 'Satanic CULT LEADER, found guilty raping kids'. How is this evidence of a widespread satanic cult? What we see here is a nut leading a small group of other nuts (a total of 4 people in the report) to indulge in his perversions? How is this different to any other nut leading any other small cult? For example: http://www.newlifecs.net/2011/08/mormon-cult-leader-warren-jeffs-sentenced-to-life-in-prison/

Then you gave us: 'Satanic cult found guilty of ritual abuse'. But again all we see is a small group of people (4 in this case) indulging their own perversions. How is this any different to the case I linked above?

Then you quote this: "was influenced by notorious English occultist Aleister Crowley". This is fairly pointless comment because how many murderers have been influenced by Jesus?

Then you gave us: 'Russians secret service spying on Satanic extremists'. The original article is sourced with this link: http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/crimes/11-06-2003/3045-zaporozhsky-0/ which when clicked leads to a completely different story.

Then you gave us: 'Satanist vampire jailed in germany'. This again shows no evidence of any large satanic cult but the usual isolated pockets of nuts (and even that is doubtlful because all the allegations just come from the accused criminal).

Then you gave us: 'Satanic killers speak of blood drinking rights'. In this case we are not even dealing with a group or cult but a couple indulging in sick fantasies.

Then you gave us this classic: 'Men awarded for bravery Disarmed devil worshipors'. This incredible piece of nonsense does not even deserve mention due to its incredible bias. So what we have here is a clear nut who changed his name to Crowley. So the newspaper reports that he was : "a disciple of satanist Aleister Crowley". What a fucking joke. So for every Christian that muders or rapes children shall we also note that they are disciples of Jesus?

The we get a lot of 'voodoo' killings and this again merely shows the total ignorance of the reports. Voodoo is a specific tradition, it is NOT the practice of who ever comes from Africa, is black and commits a crime. Africa is not a country, it is a continent filled with a multitude of diverse cultures and spiritual traditions. To call these killings 'voodoo related' just because the killers were black is not only racist but shows a total ignorance concerning the totally legitimate religion of Voudon.

Then it gets even worse. We get this: 'Haiti now 100% officially voodoo'. People commenting on a religion they know absolutely nothing about. Absolutely absurd.

And then the thread continues linking to more lone nuts (or small groups of usually misfit teenagers) committing the usual crimes in the name of Satan. What's new? What does this prove?

And then we get a whole heap of attacks on Freemansons which have no relation to anything.

Interestingly stories like this have been overlooked:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1102191.stm

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2475622/Starved-girl-had-evil-spirit.html

http://www.zimbio.com/Amora+Bain+Carson/articles/2/13+Month+Old+Killed+Alleged+Exorcism+Attempt

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/guyana/7548280/14-year-old-dies-after-exorcism.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6376211.stm

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/20533/susan-kay-clark

http://www.inclusiondaily.com/archives/04/07/070904witerrance.htm

http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/no_greater_joy/

http://www.examiner.com/attachment-parenting-in-mankato/another-child-s-death-linked-to-pearls-and-to-train-up-a-child

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5902519/Preacher-Tony-Alamo-convicted-of-marrying-girls-for-sex.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/13/arkansas.evangelist.trial/index.html#cnnSTCText

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13633403

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=6499357

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/catholic+abuse+in+england+and+wales+revealed/3767082.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1184828/Revealed-decades-ritual-child-abuse-Catholic-schools-orphanages-damned-report.html

Shall we then say that Christians are just as evil as Satanists?

exu156
04-03-2012, 06:37 AM
I am all for outing these pedophiles!

Keep up the good work Blacky!

Totally agree! But let's be careful with the sensationalist religious labels (ie: Voodoo killings) and realize that sickos will commit sick crimes under any label (Christianity included). Its always been like this and it will always be like this. Check this out:

http://www.factnet.org/

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 06:43 AM
Totally agree! But let's be careful with the sensationalist religious labels (ie: Voodoo killings) and realize that sickos will commit sick crimes under any label (Christianity included). Its always been like this and it will always be like this. Check this out:

http://www.factnet.org/

I totally agree. Good website exu, thank you so much!

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 06:43 AM
Let's review:

You started with: 'Satan worshipping peadophiles' taken from aztlan.net. This site is the usual pedling of conspiracy theories, anti-Jewish ramblings and all the other usual nonsense that basically gets thrown at anyone that is not a Christian. Look around the site, its a real eye opener.

Then you gave us: 'Satanic CULT LEADER, found guilty raping kids'. How is this evidence of a widespread satanic cult? What we see here is a nut leading a small group of other nuts (a total of 4 people in the report) to indulge in his perversions? How is this different to any other nut leading any other small cult? For example: http://www.newlifecs.net/2011/08/mormon-cult-leader-warren-jeffs-sentenced-to-life-in-prison/

Then you gave us: 'Satanic cult found guilty of ritual abuse'. But again all we see is a small group of people (4 in this case) indulging their own perversions. How is this any different to the case I linked above?



Well we can look deeper into it if a small article is not enough






Colin Batley, 48, convicted of series of perverted sexual acts on children and adults
Sect members were given matching tattoos of the Eye of Horus, the Egyptian falcon god
Coven members moved from London to Welsh seaside town of Kidwelly

Guilty: Colin Batley arriving at Swansea Crown Court where he was convicted of a series of sexual offences
The leader of a Satanic sex cult is facing a lengthy jail sentence after being found guilty of multiple counts of rape and child abuse.
Colin Batley, 48, exercised absolute control over his sect in a seaside cul-de-sac – abusing and exploiting helpless children as ‘sex toys’ for more than a decade.
He was found guilty yesterday of 35 sex offences against children and young adults. Yet social services were alerted to Batley’s child abuse in 2002 – and took no action.
As a consequence, the former Tesco security guard was allowed to continue ‘preying on the young and vulnerable’ for a further eight years – with the full support of wife Elaine.
At their semi in Kidwelly, South Wales, he would dress in hooded robes, chant before an altar and then orchestrate or participate in group sex with his female followers, including Jacqueline Marling and Shelly Millar.
One helpless girl was ‘initiated’ when she was just 11 and threatened with death by ‘cult assassins’ if she did not comply. At least two of his young victims gave birth as a result of the ‘systematic and prolonged abuse’.
Yesterday at Swansea Crown Court, Marling, 42, and Elaine Batley, 47, were found guilty of five counts including sexual activity and indecency towards children.
Millar, 35, was found guilty of two similar charges. Another woman, Sandra Iveson, was found not guilty of gross indecency.
Those found guilty will be sentenced tomorrow and face ‘substantial’ jail terms.
Colin Batley’s home was a typical semi in a typical cul-de-sac. But to the stream of visitors who trooped through the front door – especially on Sunday nights – it was the Temple.
In the lounge, a white cloth would be draped over a table to form an altar with candles and burning incense; nearby were tanks full of snakes and Satanic symbols. Those present would put on hooded robes and wear upside-down crucifixes.
There would be chanting, which would always end in group sex.
Children, boys and girls as young as 11, were also ‘initiated’ – repeatedly sexually abused in other words – during ‘Black Masses’ at Batley’s home. There were at least five victims that we know of, but police believe there could have been many more.
Yet these vile activities did not disturb the neighbours. Why? Because they were involved too. They lived in houses next to or opposite each other on the outskirts of Kidwelly (population 3,000) near Carmarthen.
For more than a decade Clos Yr Onnen, Welsh for Ash Tree Close, was possibly the most depraved street in Britain.
The proof was there, in black and white, on the charge sheet at Swansea Crown Court where Batley, his bisexual wife Elaine and their accomplices stood trial for a sickening catalogue of crimes.

The most depraved street in Britain? Ash Tree Close in Kedwelly, South Wales

Prostitute: Shelly Millar with the Eye of Horus tattoo visible under her sleeve
All of them perpetrated by culprits living in the same road; perhaps the single most shocking fact of all.
This disturbing story begins not in Wales, however, but more than 200 miles away in East London. Batley, from Shoreditch, had a string of jobs including work as a Tesco security guard and on a fruit-and-vegetable stall.
He also bred rottweiler dogs and Siamese cats. His outwardly mundane existence, we now know, masked a sinister private life.
He and his wife had been dabbling with the occult ever since they were married 30 years ago and were obsessed with Aleister Crowley, the most notorious Satanist of the 20th century, the self-styled ‘Great Beast’.
One of Crowley’s publications, the Book of the Law, includes the passage: ‘Let all chaste women be despised. Sex with anyone is not just permissible but to be encouraged.’ And this: ‘Some of the most passionate and permanent attachments have begun with rape. Rome was founded thereon.’
Apart from anything else, the Book of the Law provided justification for the couple’s own ‘open marriage’.
Batley had sent a photo of his wife to the Readers’ Wives section of a pornographic magazine and this had led to them meeting ‘others for group activities’, the jury was told.
They included former dental nurse Jacqueline Marling and prostitute Shelly Millar, who both joined Batley’s occult ‘circle’.
They were given matching tattoos of the Eye of Horus, the Egyptian falcon god depicted pecking out the eyes of Christ in Crowley’s works, and addressed Batley as ‘My lord’ (police found him listed under this name on Millar’s mobile phone).
Such was Batley’s control over his wretched ‘coven’ that they had to pay him 25 per cent of their income.
Every time Millar entertained a client, she would send Batley a text message to tell him how much she had been paid. She had sex with more than 3,000 clients over a two-year period, making about £2,000 a month, a quarter of which went to him. It explained how Batley, officially unemployed, could afford a £45,000 caravan and frequent holidays abroad.
Batley would later claim that he moved to Wales for health reasons – to escape the smog. A claim rather undermined by the fact that his coven also relocated to the principality. Police believe there was another reason for the exodus; they suspect that other members of the cult – who have not been identified – were based in Wales.


Former dental nurse Jacqueline Marling (left) joined Batley's occult 'circle'. Right, Batley's bisexual wife, Elaine
The first East Londoner to arrive in Kidwelly was twice-married mother of four Sandra Iveson in 1995.
The following year, the Batleys moved in. Two years later, Marling became their next-door neighbour and Millar, 35, an unmarried mother of two who was brought up a Catholic, completed the set.
Did other residents have any inkling of the kind of people that were now living among them? Well, with hindsight, there were a few small clues.
John Wheatland and his wife Marion, both in their seventies, couldn’t help but notice how Colin Batley was ‘over at Shelly’s all the time’.
On another occasion, the Wheatlands encountered Millar and another woman kissing and touching each other in the supermarket. Yet they could not have imagined the extent of what was really going on behind the closed curtains of the so-called Temple. During occult gatherings it became the set of a horror movie.
Batley, in a hooded robe, would read out extracts from the Book of the Law, which had been typed out and laminated by his wife. Hanging above him on the wall was a gold ceremonial dagger and sitting menacingly nearby were his two rottweilers, Tutankhamun and Sekhet.
One young victim told how Batley introduced her to the cult by raping her when she was 11, telling her that having sex with him was a ‘test’ and if she did not pass she would go to ‘the Abyss’. The victim, now in her twenties, told the court: ‘I did not want him to do what he was doing, but I did not have a choice because what Colin said happened. What Colin said went.’

Swansea Crown Court where Batley and alleged members off the paedophile cult are on trial
The abuse continued for years. As a teenager she became pregnant by Batley, who prevented her from having an abortion saying that babies belonged to the cult and not to their mothers.
Another victim, now in her thirties, said she was forced to have sex with Batley when she was 15. She was also ordered to perform sex acts on his wife and other men and women. ‘I was told I’d be killed if I didn’t become part of the cult,’ she said. ‘Colin Batley had a gun and brought it to meetings. I was so scared I just did what I was told. I was in the living room at his home and he told me there would be an initiation. I was called upstairs. Elaine was there. He would just snap his fingers and say, “Strip”.’
She said that on one occasion when she was 16, she was made to have sex with a boy of 15 – as Marling filmed them.
The girl was told she would be murdered by ‘cult assassins’ if she did not give in to Batley’s demands. Through a video link, she sobbed as she told how she was taken to other addresses by Batley where she had sex with other men. ‘I did it because I was told to by Colin.’ Another woman victim said she was recruited into the cult and became pregnant after becoming a ‘sexual plaything’ for the group. Batley ordered her not to abort her ‘occult child’.
One male victim said that, as a teenager, he was tricked into having sex with Batley’s wife.
The witness recalled how Batley promised to set him up with a girl and directed him to a dark bedroom. Once inside, he got into bed and then realised that the other person lying beside him was Elaine Batley.
One of the charges against Shelly Millar was that she seduced a boy of 15. Millar claimed he was 16, and that she was teaching him how to have sex as he had a new girlfriend ‘he wanted to impress’. She had sex with him twice in Batley’s caravan in Tenby. Batley, it emerged during the trial, had been reported to Carmarthenshire Social Services in 2002 by a concerned relative. She said Batley had been abused by his own father and that ‘history was about to repeat itself’.
The warning went unheeded, allowing Batley and his cult to prey on youngsters week after week, month after month for another eight years.
The Batleys had four children, one of whom, Damian, died of strangulation three years ago when a bizarre sex game went wrong. He was found hanging from his bedroom door at the family home and had been filming himself.
Finally, last year, one of Batley’s victims went to the police. It was one of the girls he had impregnated as a teenager. She said she feared he might target her own child.
Batley was tipped off about the police inquiry and, by the time he was arrested, had destroyed potential evidence. But officers found home-made films of two of his victims on his camcorder. Interviewed 11 times by detectives, he steadfastly maintained his innocence.
The jury did not believe him. They saw him for what he was – ‘an evil and manipulative sexual predator’ who had used the cult and ‘black magic’ as a cover for his own perverted ends.
Back in Kidwelly, there was relief at the verdicts. ‘I’m just glad they’ve all finally gone,’ said John Wheatland.
He spoke for everyone in Ash Tree Close.
Sex cult was inspired by 'the Great Beast'
The cult’s inspiration, Aleister ‘the Great Beast’ Crowley, believed himself to be a prophet of a new age of personal liberty, controlled by the ancient Egyptian god Horus.
He was a bisexual heroin addict whose doctrine for life was ‘Do What Thou Wilt’, advocating sexual promiscuity and prostitution.
Crowley was a frequenter of orgies and brothels, and contracted gonorrhea from a prostitute.
Born into a wealthy family in Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, he gained such notoriety during his lifetime that he was denounced in the press as ‘the wickedest man in the world’.
Crowley’s work has been cited as an influence by famous figures including Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page, who bought Crowley’s former home and set up an occult bookshop and publishing house which published some of his work.
Page once said: ‘I feel Aleister Crowley is a misunderstood genius of the 20th century because his whole thing was liberation of the person.’

Devil worshipper: The cul-de-sac sex cult was inspired Aleister Crowley, author of The Book Of The Law


Aleister Crowley abandoned his wife and daughter for life in his cult, and Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page, right, was said to be influenced by his ideas
SLEEPY TOWN SHOCKED BY PERVERTED SEX CULT

Quiet: The sleepy town of Kidwelly has been shocked by the 'sex cult' revelations
A handful of housing association homes in an overlooked cul-de-sac in sleepy Kidwelly is an unlikely location for a sex cult.
With its medieval castle, industrial museum and historic canal, the pretty seaside town tries hard to attract the tourist pound.
The first anyone heard of a satanic paedophile ring was when Colin Batley hit the national headlines last month.
Despite having lived in the community for years, the cult's inevitably low-key operation had gone completely unnoticed.
News of what had been going on under their noses for so long was greeted by many residents with disbelief, shock and unease.
Even today, few in the deeply conservative community were willing to do much more than express shock at revelations from the trial.
One man spoke of the anger at the way a group of 'outsiders' from London had stained the town's character.
'Nobody understands how so many of them could come down and all end up living in one place in the town,' he said.
'They must have planned it somehow. I don't think Kidwelly is to blame for what has gone on. They kept a very low profile.'
He said he preferred not to give his name because he felt the cult would still be operating in the area.
But Geraint Thomas, Kidwelly Town Council clerk, predicted that the community would quickly rise above its problems.
'The first we knew about this matter was when it was publicised in the newspapers. It is fair to say that on reading about it we were shocked and dismayed.
'This unfortunate matter has put Kidwelly on the map for wrong reasons as we are continuously endeavouring to promote the town of Kidwelly and its environment in a positive way.
'We view this matter as a one-off. Kidwelly is a safe and respectable place to live and visit for all


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1364583/Evil-paedophile-guilty-running-cul-sac-sex-cult-seaside-home.html

exu156
04-03-2012, 06:44 AM
Perhaps rather than using pointless labels we should instead focus on patters of abuse which are present in all cults. These can be broken down into 8 main points:

1. Milieu Control. This involves the control of information and communication both within the environment and, ultimately, within the individual, resulting in a significant degree of isolation from society at large.
2. Mystical Manipulation. The manipulation of experiences that appears spontaneous but is, in fact, planned and orchestrated by the group or its leaders in order to demonstrate divine authority, spiritual advancement, or some exceptional talent or insight that sets the leader and/or group apart from humanity, and that allows reinterpretation of historical events, scripture, and other experiences.
3. Demand for Purity. The world is viewed as black and white and the members are constantly exhorted to conform to the ideology of the group and strive for perfection. The induction of guilt and/or shame is a powerful control device used here.
4. Confession. Sins, as defined by the group, are to be confessed either to a personal monitor or publicly to the group. There is no confidentiality; members' "sins," "attitudes," and "faults" are discussed and exploited by the leaders.
5. Sacred Science. The group's doctrine or ideology is considered to be the ultimate Truth, beyond all questioning or dispute. Truth is not to be found outside the group. The leader, as the spokesperson for God or for all humanity, is likewise above criticism.
6. Loading the Language. The group interprets or uses words and phrases in new ways so that often the outside world does not understand. This jargon consists of thought-terminating clichés, which serve to alter members' thought processes to conform to the group's way of thinking.
7. Doctrine over person. Member's personal experiences are subordinated to the sacred science and any contrary experiences must be denied or reinterpreted to fit the ideology of the group.
8. Dispensing of existence. The group has the prerogative to decide who has the right to exist and who does not. This is usually not literal but means that those in the outside world are not saved, unenlightened, unconscious and they must be converted to the group's ideology. If they do not join the group or are critical of the group, then they must be rejected by the members. Thus, the outside world loses all credibility. In conjunction, should any member leave the group, he or she must be rejected also.

These 8 danger signs can be present in any cult promoting any religious view (Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, New Age etc). The existence of any or all of these signs should be of concern to anyone and should deman further investigation.

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 06:50 AM
Totally agree! But let's be careful with the sensationalist religious labels (ie: Voodoo killings) and realize that sickos will commit sick crimes under any label (Christianity included). Its always been like this and it will always be like this. Check this out:

http://www.factnet.org/

Totally agree! But let's be careful with the sensationalist religious labels (ie: Voodoo killings) and realize that sickos will commit sick crimes under any label (Satanism included). Its always been like this and it will always be like this. Check this out:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2FTZDoRlDkE/TMAdPWIHdeI/AAAAAAAAAAQ/KlZxQt7ngPU/s1600/Katehis1.jpg

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 06:54 AM
Perhaps rather than using pointless labels we should instead focus on patters of abuse which are present in all cults. These can be broken down into 8 main points:

1. Milieu Control. This involves the control of information and communication both within the environment and, ultimately, within the individual, resulting in a significant degree of isolation from society at large.
2. Mystical Manipulation. The manipulation of experiences that appears spontaneous but is, in fact, planned and orchestrated by the group or its leaders in order to demonstrate divine authority, spiritual advancement, or some exceptional talent or insight that sets the leader and/or group apart from humanity, and that allows reinterpretation of historical events, scripture, and other experiences.
3. Demand for Purity. The world is viewed as black and white and the members are constantly exhorted to conform to the ideology of the group and strive for perfection. The induction of guilt and/or shame is a powerful control device used here.
4. Confession. Sins, as defined by the group, are to be confessed either to a personal monitor or publicly to the group. There is no confidentiality; members' "sins," "attitudes," and "faults" are discussed and exploited by the leaders.
5. Sacred Science. The group's doctrine or ideology is considered to be the ultimate Truth, beyond all questioning or dispute. Truth is not to be found outside the group. The leader, as the spokesperson for God or for all humanity, is likewise above criticism.
6. Loading the Language. The group interprets or uses words and phrases in new ways so that often the outside world does not understand. This jargon consists of thought-terminating clichés, which serve to alter members' thought processes to conform to the group's way of thinking.
7. Doctrine over person. Member's personal experiences are subordinated to the sacred science and any contrary experiences must be denied or reinterpreted to fit the ideology of the group.
8. Dispensing of existence. The group has the prerogative to decide who has the right to exist and who does not. This is usually not literal but means that those in the outside world are not saved, unenlightened, unconscious and they must be converted to the group's ideology. If they do not join the group or are critical of the group, then they must be rejected by the members. Thus, the outside world loses all credibility. In conjunction, should any member leave the group, he or she must be rejected also.

These 8 danger signs can be present in any cult promoting any religious view (Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, New Age etc). The existence of any or all of these signs should be of concern to anyone and should deman further investigation.

Ignorance and lack of education are the biggest reasons its happening.

If people dont open their eyes and see that Satanic ritual abuse is happening and spreading, and see that Satanism exists, and dont begin seeing what is going on today, and not 2000 years ago, then it will not stop and the cult organisations will continue to operate in the shadows away from the spot-light where the masses dont even believe they operate


Just like if you told the masses the IRA have infiltrated the freemasons they would not believe you, but they have, and Mad dog would not deny this

Always be aware, crime/mr Grimes operates in the shadows, and attacks the ignorant and the blind

exu156
04-03-2012, 06:59 AM
Totally agree! But let's be careful with the sensationalist religious labels (ie: Voodoo killings) and realize that sickos will commit sick crimes under any label (Satanism included). Its always been like this and it will always be like this. Check this out:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2FTZDoRlDkE/TMAdPWIHdeI/AAAAAAAAAAQ/KlZxQt7ngPU/s1600/Katehis1.jpg

I am not sure how posting a picture of some weirdo is going to help anyone's case. We could be posting pictures of weirdos all day:

http://www.imgjoe.com/x/imgjimjones1.jpg

http://www.imgjoe.com/x/jonestown3.jpg

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:07 AM
September 2000, Murfreesboro, Tennessee; Alonzo South, 31, pleaded guilty to three counts of aggravated sexual battery. He was sentenced to 24 years in prison.

Overview: South admitted that on at least three occasions over the last two years he participated in satanic rituals in which a nude girl under the age of 10 was sexually touched. Court records say the child, who was the daughter of a woman involved in the satanic group, was raped in a home, the nearby woods, a shed, a pickup truck and a car. See, "Man gets 24 years for satanic-ritual rape of 10-year-old girl," The Tennessean, Sept. 30, 2000

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/karencuriojonesarchive.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:08 AM
Overview: News articles report that a Federal judge was asked to hold the State in contempt of court in February 2000 for its continued failure to provide court-ordered and doctor-prescribed mental health services to a severely traumatized 17-year-old victim of rape and occult ritual abuse. A State advocacy group, Tennessee Justice Center, filed a class action lawsuit against the state for failure to properly administer the appeals procedure for the health care plan enrollees of TennCare, (Tennessee Behavioral Health). The 17 yr. old victim was just one of the people named in the settlement but she was left without proper care until this motion was filed. In April, the state agreed to properly attend to her care. See, "Tenn. Could be in Contempt if Mental Care for Teen Inadequate", The Commercial Appeal, February 24, 2000; and "Sarah C. to get badly needed care", Knoxville News-Sentinel Co., April 18, 2000

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/karencuriojonesarchive.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:09 AM
Overview: A 19-year-old woman and a 17-year-old boy were killed during a ritual Satanic mass in southern Poland, police said after finding the cut up and burned bodies. The two victims were members of a sect that staged the black mass in a disused bunker on the outskirts of the town of Ruda Slaska, but they did not know they were to die. Another teenage cult member who survived was taken to the hospital with multiple knife wounds. See, "Teenage cult members killed in Satanic mass," Agence France Presse, March 4, 1999 and "Polish Satanists jailed for ritual double murder", Agence France Presse, April 1, 2000.

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/karencuriojonesarchive.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:11 AM
Shawn Ellis, Dependent Minor Child, (Franklin County Children Services, Complainant-Appellee, Carla Richardson, Respondent-Appellant). No. 99AP-725, No. 99AP-726; Permanent court commitment of children upheld.

Overview: The mother and father did not comply with the reunification plans for their children and the court stated satanic occult practices were allegedly commonplace: "After being in counseling for over three years, appellant continued to deny what happened to her children and claimed an inability to remember the abuse. There was even testimony that appellant could not recall taking blood and hair from the children as part of satanic rituals."

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/karencuriojonesarchive.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:12 AM
Overview: The perpetrator mutilated a 15-yr-old boy and tried to sell his genitals which he had cut off. According to a news report: "Ritual or 'muti' murders are common in South Africa where people are prepared to pay well for portions made of human parts which they believe will bring good health or good fortune." See, "Mozambican jailed for life in S. Africa for ritual murder," Agence France Presse, Oct. 21, 1999

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/karencuriojonesarchive.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:14 AM
Overview: News article reports that McMurray held himself out as a leader of a group based on the Wiccan religion. He preyed on abused teenagers and required them to engage in a series of homosexual acts which he called Mandatory Requirements which they would be tested on. He told them that they would become better people spiritually if they participated in these acts. Some members were afraid of McMurray because they thought he had special powers. See, "Guelph man admits sex assaults, guilty plea ends preliminary hearing for head of Erin cult," Kitchener Waterloo Record, Sept. 14, 1999.

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/karencuriojonesarchive.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:15 AM
Overview: Man pled guilty several years prior to sexual imposition against a child; he appealed the designation as a sexual predator. Documents state: "The trial court also noted that the pre-sentence investigation report indicated alcohol was used, that defendant had threatened the victim, and that satanic ceremonies had been used."

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/karencuriojonesarchive.htm

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:16 AM
Overview: A court sentenced three alleged Satanists, including a 17-year-old girl, to prison terms for killing a man and ingesting some of the body parts. Jarno Sebastian Elg, 24, was given a life sentence for killing a 23-year-old man in November and instigating others to participate in a ritual that included torturing the victim and listening to heavy-metal music. The Hyvinkaa District Court in southern Finland sentenced Terhi Johanna Tervashonka, 17, to two years and six months in prison and Mika Kristian Riska, 21, to two years and eight months in the case. The victim, who was not named, suffered prolonged torture and eventually was strangled to death, the court said. It also said the three people convicted "were strongly influenced by Satanism." The court declared most of the details of the case secret. See, "Alleged Satanists sentenced for murder, cannibalism,"

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blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:17 AM
Overview: The supreme court sentenced to death a man convicted of killing a 15-year-old girl whose tongue he then boiled and ate. He belonged to a satanic cult and with the help of two accomplices had severed the girl's head with a kitchen knife. Dyomin later lacquered the skull and kept it in his room. Skulls, books on black magic and upside-down crucifixes were found during a search of Dyomin's house.

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blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:18 AM
Overview: Pending Case - A 17-year-old has been charged as an adult and was scheduled to be arraigned on an attempted first-degree murder charge in a stabbing attack that stemmed from a satanic ritual, police said. Harris allegedly stabbed Robert Menendez four to six times in the throat and back with a carving knife after a ritual in which they cut their hands to let their blood mingle and chanted lines from a satanic book together. As they were chanting on April 21, they drew a pentagram in the dirt and Harris told Menendez to look down at the symbol. As Menendez looked down, Harris attacked him with the knife." Somewhere along the line the culprit just started to hack him with the knife," said Fort Lauderdale Detective Arturo Carbo. "The victim told us that the stabbing was not part of the ritual and he firmly believed he was going to die. Harris and Menendez were part of a network of 30 to 40 local young people who are involved in satanic activities," Carbo said. Menendez told police he and Harris, who have known each other for at least 18 months, hung out at local public libraries to use computers to access satanic Web sites and send e-mail to each other. See, "Teen charged as adult in stabbing that took place during satanic ritual," Associated Press, May 28, 1999.
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February 1999, United States District Court For the District of Nebraska; Paul A. Bonacci vs. Lawrence E. King; 4:CV91-3037; $1 million default judgment awarded.

Overview: "Two counts are alleged against the defendant King in the complaint. Count V alleges a conspiracy with public officers to deprive the plaintiff of his civil rights, designed to continue to subject the plaintiff to emotional abuse and to prevent him from informing authorities of criminal conduct. Count VIII charges battery, false imprisonment, infliction of emotional distress, negligence and conspiracy to deprive the plaintiff of civil rights. Between December 1980 and 1988, the complaint alleges, the defendant King continually subjected the plaintiff to repeated sexual assaults, false imprisonments, infliction of extreme emotional distress, organized and directed satanic rituals, forced the plaintiff to 'scavenge' for children to be a part of the defendant King's sexual abuse and pornography ring, forced the plaintiff to engage in numerous masochistic orgies with other minor children. The defendant King's default has made those allegations true against him. The issue now is the relief to be granted monetarily. The now uncontradicted evidence is that the plaintiff has suffered much. He has suffered burns, broken fingers, beating of the head and face and other indignities by the wrongful actions of the defendant King. In addition to the misery of going through the experiences just related over a period of eight years, the plaintiff has suffered the lingering results to the present time. He is a victim of multiple personality disorder, involving as many as fourteen distinct personalities aside from his primary personality. He has given up a desired military career and received threats on his life. He suffers from sleeplessness, has bad dreams, has difficulty in holding a job, is fearful that others are following him, fears getting killed, has depressing flashbacks, and is verbally violent on occasion, all in connection with the multiple personality disorder and caused by the wrongful activities of the defendant King."
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April 1998, South Africa; Naledzani Mabuda and his wife Helen Madidida confessed to killing their 23-month-old son.

Overview: The father, a traditional healer and spiritual medium, confessed to ritually killing his son because his ancestors had threatened to destroy him if he did not. Police found the boy's head, legs, hands and genitals buried under various parts of the floor in the couple's house. Later searches revealed the toddler's intestines, liver and other internal organs from a series of ritual "graves" on the nearby mountainside. The couple were refused bail after another local traditional leader banned them from the village. He testified that the couple had committed a crime of the "greatest evil" and that the townspeople were terrified. The case was remanded to trial for May 4 when a series of sangomas were asked to testify about ritual human sacrifices as part of traditional African beliefs. See, "A Sangoma couple in court for sacrificing child to ancestors, Africa News Service, April 15, 1998.

Also, in January 1998 several of South Africa's witch-doctors, or sangomas, claimed that ritual murders and killings related to the medicinal quest for body parts had decreased by more than 90 percent. The news article reports that police estimate that several hundred people, many of them children, are killed in South Africa each year for their body parts. Female genitals, breasts and placentas are used for infertility and good luck, while hands burned to ashes and mixed into a paste are seen as a cure for strokes, and hearts for heart disease. Blood is given to impart vitality and brains for political power and business success. However "true sangomas eschew the use of body parts, treating physical and mental ailments using herbal medicines." See, "Witch-doctors not making a killing any more: South African healers say ritual murders no longer in vogue." The Ottawa Citizen, January 2, 1998
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STATE OF OREGON, Respondent, v. MICHAEL JAMES HAYWARD; Appellant. 327 Ore. 397; 963 P.2d 667; 1998 Ore. LEXIS 593.

Three counts of aggravated murder, one count of intentional murder, two counts of felony murder, two counts of attempted aggravated murder, one count of first-degree assault, one count of first-degree kidnapping, one count of first-degree robbery, and one count of first-degree burglary and death sentence affirmed.

Overview: Four people, three of whom considered themselves to be Satanists and members of a "Death-Metal" band, listened to their Death-Metal music which included lyrics to "The Pick-Axe Murders," An Experiment in Homicide," "Hammer smashed face," Meat Hook Sodomy," "Gutted," and "Living Dissection." They planned their crime and went to a Dari Mart store, killed a female clerk and brutally beat another one. The evidence of "Death-metal" music and Satanism was admitted into court testimony and was upheld because it partially explain the motive for the crime and the motive for the degree of brutality used.
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October 1997, Equatorial Guinea; An unnamed individual was condemned to death after removing the eyes, tongue, ears and genitals of his 10-year-old female victim.

Overview: Malabo radio reported that 17 ritual murders were committed in Equatorial Guinea in August and September of 1997, according to official figures. See, "Ritual murderer of girl, 10, sentenced to death", Agence France Presse, October 3, 1997.

Another news report cites a Spanish journalist and ethnographer, Jose Manuel Novoa, an expert on the country who has conducted investigations in Equatorial Guinea since 1979 and has written two books about cannibalism in the region. Novoa claims that anthropophagy (eating human flesh) is widespread in the country. He stated, "Eating human flesh was a tradition of warriors pertaining to the ethnic group of the Fang, which lives in Equatorial Guinea, Nigeria, Gabon and Cameroon ...as they conquered new territories, Fang warriors ate parts of their victims to absorb desirable qualities such as youth and strength... human organs are eaten by members of secret brotherhoods which practice sorcery in forests at night. New members are initiated in ceremonies which invoke spirits...bodies are obtained through murder and robbing them from cemeteries ...the secret groups are known as 'evu societies', because many Guineans believe the human body to contain an organ known as the 'evu.'"... "The human brain is known to be highly toxic, for which reason the cannibals seek to immunize themselves by ingesting potent vegetal poisons in small doses... nevertheless, the cannibalism is believed to have led to a disease known as the kuru." See, "Cannibalism still common in Equatorial Guinea, Spanish expert claims", Deutsche Presse-Agentur, April 5, 1998.

In April of 1988, President Omar Bongo met with leaders of the Catholic, Protestant and Moslem communities to discuss possible action against imported beliefs and practice. This action was taken after an admission by a witchdoctor, purporting to belong to a sect based in neighboring Equitorial Guinea, that he had eaten six humans, including two of his own children, over the past decade. The witchdoctor was a railway worker and his followers had killed another victim, a teacher who was seeking help to solve family problems. See, "Bongo Denounces Sects in Wake of Gruesome Cannibalism Tale." Reuters (Libreville) April 29, 1988.
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November 1998, Pike County, Ohio; Michael Paul Dillard, 20, was convicted of felony child endangerment for burning a boy during a satanic ritual.

Overview: Dillard used candle wax to burn crosses on the chest, genitals, arms and back of the 14-yr.old. Dillard confessed to torturing the boy, his 13 yr. old brother and a 12 yr. old friend. An accomplice held their legs while Dillard poured wax on them. "It burned," the younger boy testified. "I tried to get loose." One of the men told one of the boys to holler out Satan's name, but he refused to do it, the younger boy testified. See, "Man guilty of burning teens in satanic ritual," Columbus Dispatch, and "A Pike County man faces up to five years in prison for torturing a 14-yr-old boy", Associated Press, August 19, 1998.
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February 1998, SEAN RICHARD SELLERS v. RONALD WARD UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS TENTH CIRCUIT No. 97-6062; 728 P.2d 515; 809 P.2d 676; 889 P. 2d 895; Denial of new trial affirmed.

Overview: In 1985 - 1986, at the age of 16, Sean Sellers killed three people, including his parents. He was tried as an adult and given the death sentence. Evidence of his satanic belief system was admitted by the defense at trial. Sellers appealed in recent years due to new evidence that he suffered from multiple personality disorder or (DID). Extensive medical documentation was submitted to the court indicating that an "alter" committed the offenses. The appeal was denied although the court was clearly disturbed by the ramifications of Sean Seller's mental disorder.

Note: Sean was executed on Feb. 4, 1999 despite appeals by Amnesty International contesting the legal wisdom of executing a man for crimes he committed at age 16 and who suffered from a psychological disorder like MPD/DID.
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April 28, 1998, Lubuk Pakam, Indonesia; Achmad Suradji, 47, sentenced to death for murdering 42 women.

Overview: An Indonesian sorcerer was sentenced to death Monday for murdering 42 women as part of a bizarre attempt to boost his magical powers. The case first came to light in April last year when police, following up a missing person's report, found a body buried in a sugar cane field near Suradji's house. When they went to question the sorcerer, they found women's shoes and handbags. Over the next few weeks, a further 41 bodies were unearthed close to his village. According to the police, Suradji said that he had a dream in 1986 in which the ghost of his father had told him to kill a total of 70 women and then drink their saliva in order to enhance his mystical powers. See, "Sorcerer to die for 42 murders", The Daily Telegraph, April 28, 1998 and "Witch Work; How an Indonesian lured 42 women to their death", Asiaweek, June 13, 1997
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May 1997, J. P. v. CLARENCE CARTER, COMMISSIONER OF THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES; Record No. 1168-96-4 COURT OF APPEALS OF VIRGINIA 24 Va. App. 707; 485 S.E.2d 162; 1997 Va.App. LEXIS 310, Decided. True Finding of child molestation affirmed.

Overview: A 13 yr. old female minor was found to have molested two children in the context of satanic ritual ceremony while she was babysitting them. The kids reported to their parents and investigators that: "...[appellant] had undressed and fondled [one child] on these two different occasions, performed oral sodomy, had [him] touch her breast and sat on top of [him] and quote "hurt his penis." [Appellant] allegedly had [the other child] draw a pentagram and circle and told [him] this is where to love Satan while she fondled his penis. . . [The children's mother] said the boys reported that [appellant] talked of Satan's power and that she would kill them and their parents if they told anyone what happened. This minor's name was submitted to the central registry as a founded sexual abuser.
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July 1997, Eddie Lee Sexton v. State of Florida, No. 86,132

Trial court imposed the death penalty for murder. Remanded back to Court because testimony needlessly inflamed the jury. The criminal trial was continued until August 1998. After the second trial, Eddie Lee Sexton was found guilty and sentenced to death again on Nov. 18, 1998.

Overview: Sexton was convicted and sentenced to death for the participation in the murder of his son-in-law. The court notes Sexton moved to Florida in 1993 with his family and the victim to avoid arrest and prevent authorities in Ohio from removing his children from the home. His infant grandchild, who was the son of the victim and his daughter, died under suspicious circumstances. Sexton objected to the testimony of 5 of his daughters, as cited in the appellate opinion, "that he beat them, conducted 'marriage' ceremonies with his daughters, had regular sex with them and fathered several of their children, encouraged his children to have sex with each other, made his sons compare their penis sizes and ridiculed them, practiced Satanism and engaged in other bizarre conduct, threatened his children if they discussed family matters with others, trained his children how to kill FBI agents, engaged in a standoff with police in Ohio shortly before coming to Florida, fled to Florida to prevent his children from being taken into custody, and directed the killing of his infant grandchild."

The States proposed motive for the killing was that Sexton's son-in-law knew Sexton was the father of his own "grandchildren." The prosecution wanted prior bad acts admitted to show the control this man had over his children. The appeals court thought this testimony needlessly inflamed the jury and so ordered a new trial. During the second trial, a son, Willie Sexton, said his father convinced him he had Satanic powers and sexually abused him. He also stated that he was tied up to his bed at night when he was a child, and the father gave coins to the other children to call home if anyone spoke about the abuse. See, "Court revisits murder case, son's fears", St. Petersburg
Times, September 2, 1998
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March 1998, STATE OF OHIO, Plaintiff-Appellee -vs.- ESTELLA SEXTON, Defendant-Appellant CASE NOS: 1996CA00306, 1996CA00367 COURT OF APPEALS OF OHIO, FIFTH APPELLATE DISTRICT, STARK COUNTY 1998 Ohio App. LEXIS 1302, Case No. 1995CR00421.

Convictions for Complicity to Rape, Felonious Sexual Penetration, Gross Sexual Imposition, Complicity to Gross Sexual Imposition, and child endangerment. Affirmed.

Overview: This appeal involves the wife of the man described in the above case. In April 1992 M. one of Mrs. Sexton's daughters, alleged that their father was molesting the three oldest daughters. There were 12 children in the family. DHS took six of the children into custody, but three of the children were returned to the mother under an agreement that she would keep the children away from the father. "In December of 1992, Mrs. Sexton fled Ohio with the three children, and reunited with Eddie at a hotel in Kentucky. On January 14, 1994, appellant and Eddie were arrested in Hillsboro County, Florida. The three children were returned to the custody of DHS. While living in Jackson Township, and in a camper in Hillsboro County, Florida, appellant and her husband perpetrated acts of sexual, physical, and mental abuse against all of the children. While living in Jackson Township, K. L. and M. were forced to participate in a wedding ceremony with their father. During the ceremony, Eddie engaged in a French kiss with the girls. Appellant was present, and took pictures of the ceremony."... "In the camper in Florida, appellant and Eddie gave Kim and Chris little red pills and Nyquil to ingest every evening, despite the fact that neither had a cold." The mother and father inflicted "shaving rituals" on the girls. "On one occasion, K. did not ingest the medicine, and saw appellant fondling C's. penis while he was asleep."..."While living in Jackson Township, L. and M. were forced to experience a similar shaving ritual. Lana was taken to the master bedroom for the purpose of punishment. Once inside the room, appellant held L. down, while Eddie shaved her entire body with a razor. While shaving her, Eddie cut her leg, put the blood on her finger, and made her sign a paper, saying that she was selling her soul to the devil."... "C. received beatings from both appellant and Eddie. Eddie would beat C. once or twice a week, while appellant guarded the door. The beatings would often leave bruises. Appellant and Eddie also punished C. by having him stand against the wall for five to six hours, holding a penny against the wall with his nose. During this punishment, C. was not permitted to go to the bathroom. At age twelve, C. was forced to participate in weekend parties involving the family members in which he was given beer to drink."

In a previous appellate opinion describing Mrs. Sexton's case, Ohio vs. Estella Sexton one of the children at that time stated that family members were involved in satanic rituals, invoking spirits, and "baby thingies and things like that."
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blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:19 AM
November 1997, India; Dharam Vir arrested for the ritual murder of his son.

Overview: A father chopped off his son's head and offered it to the Hindu goddess of destruction, Kali, in a belief that a human sacrifice would earn him divine favors. He ordered his son to lie on the ground and then beheaded him. The police said he murdered his son because he was driven by his own religious beliefs. See, "Man beheads son in Ritual Murder in India", Agence France Presse, November 14, 1997
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July 1997, IN THE COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS OF TENNESSEE AT KNOXVILLE, STATE OF TENNESSEE, Appellee v. CHRISTA GAIL PIKE, Appellant. C.C.A. NO. 03C01-9611-CR-00408 KNOX COUNTY HON. (First Degree Murder-Death Penalty) ON APPEAL FROM THE JUDGMENT OF THE CRIMINAL COURT OF KNOX COUNTY.

Conviction for first degree murder and conspiracy to commit first degree murder affirmed. Death penalty affirmed.

Overview: Pike killed another female she felt rivalry with and carved a pentagram into her chest. The court found that this murder involved torture, and medical experts thought the injuries were inflicted when the victim was still alive. A group of "others" were named who helped her but Pike didn't give information about them. The pentagram she was wearing was admitted as evidence. "A witness stated that as the Defendant described hitting Slemmer in the head with a piece of asphalt and carving a pentagram in her chest, she danced around in a circle, smiling and singing." The psychiatrist involved thought there were satanic elements to the crime but that Pike was just a "dabbler" in Satanism.

A few years later..."A Knox County judge imposed consecutive prison terms Thursday for a young Memphis man who took part in the torture slaying of a Knoxville Job Corps student. Criminal Court Judge Mary Beth Leibowitz said public safety concerns dictate that Tadaryl D. Shipp be imprisoned as long as the law allows. Shipp, 21, had no regard for human life when he helped murder Colleen A. Slemmer, 19, the night of Jan. 12, 1995, the judge said. He treated her with "gross cruelty" while at least partly satisfying an interest in Satanism, Leibowitz said." See, "Orange County woman to die for Tenn. killing," THE_NEWS_&_OBSERVER " and "Judge orders Shipp to serve life in slaying, then another 25-year term " Knoxville News-Sentinel, March 12, 1999
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April 1, 1996 ADOPTION OF QUENTIN & others. SUPREME JUDICIAL COURT OF MASSACHUSETTS; 424 Mass. 882; 678 N.E.2d 1325; 1997 Mass. LEXIS 104 DISPOSITION: Order granting petition to dispense with consent to adoption of three children affirmed.

Overview: Department of Social Services planned to adopt out the parent's children, the parent's appealed and the court briefly describes Social Services case for neglect, sexual molestation and statements of the children. While describing the past history of the father, the court writes: "In 1983, the father joined a religious organization called Orlo Templi Orientis and studied the so-called 'Satanic Bible.' In January, 1984, he was convicted of grave robbing, and sentenced to two months in jail. After release, he returned to his transient life-style, alternating between Los Angeles and San Francisco." "The eldest child, E. was diagnosed as suffering from posttraumatic stress disorder. During an interview with Dr. O'Connell, she stated that "her 'Daddy's a witch;' that 'bad witches took my picture with no clothes on;' that '[Paul, a friend of the father] calls me his girlfriend;' that [Paul] took pictures of her with no clothes on; that [Paul] said not to tell; that she and her mother were tied up together with no clothes on while her father had no clothes on;
and that the witches 'shared weenies' and tried to touch her with their weenies but that she ran away."
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July 1996, In Interest of P.J.M, 926 S.W.2d 223, Missouri Court of Appeals, Termination of Parental Rights Affirmed.

Overview: This self-described satanic family had been in and out of social services for many years. Parental Rights were terminated as to three of the children. There was constant and severe domestic violence; the father continually abused the mother, including using a cattle prod to electrically shock her, shot her with a gun, cut her with a razor blade and violated her with a baseball bat. The mother then claimed she made up the story, although physical evidence was discovered, she had a stab wound in her side and she was bleeding internally. Both parents had been arrested for the rape of a teenager, but the witness wouldn't testify so the charges were dropped. Both parents had tried to commit suicide and were involved in drug usage. The mother admitted to sacrificing animals in front of her children and giving them drugs to forget the ceremonies. The children also stated that this occurred.

December 1996, Damien Wayne Echols and Charles Jason Baldwin v. State of Arkansas, 936 S.W.2d 509, Convictions and sentencing for murder affirmed.

Overview: Echols and Baldwin were jointly tried and convicted for killing three 8 yr. old boys. Their accomplice, Jessie Misskelley, confessed and implicated both Echols and Baldwin in the murders. Misskelley was tried separately. In an appellate opinion dated July 17, 1995 (902 S.W.2d 781) Echols had previously appealed his case but filed a motion specifically waiving all points concerning his death sentence. The appellate court ordered the case back to the lower court to address Echols competency to waive an appeal of the death penalty. Echols finally decided to appeal his death sentence but the sentence was upheld. One jury member received a death threat, another had received a threatening phone call during the trial. In the courts overview of the sufficiency of the evidence arguments, there were detailed descriptions of the three victims bodies, including evidence of forced sex, they'd been beaten and stabbed, and there were injuries to the genital area evidencing forced oral sex. There was evidence of castration regarding child victim, Christopher Byers. "The skin of the penis had been removed, and the scrotal sac and testes were missing."

When asked by police how he thought the boys had been killed, Echols gave them statements not yet publicly known. On the witness stand, Echols testified that he'd read these facts from the newspaper. When the newspapers were shown to him, Echols admitted the information he was referring to was not in them and he didn't get the information in question from the newspaper after all. Two witnesses testified they overheard Echols admit he killed the three boys and that he was going to kill two more. The state thought the killings had been performed in a satanic ritual and an expert witness on the occult gave that opinion also. Echols admitted to being involved in the occult, items in his home included journals that had references to "morbid images, spells, and dead children." His parents had concerns about his involvement in "devil worship". Medical records contained statements by Echols about his belief system: "People are in two classes, sheeps and wolves, and the wolves eat the sheep." He thought he obtained power from drinking the blood of others, especially from his sexual partners. In regards to whether the field of Satanism has scientific validity, the court notes: "Echols next contends that Dr. Griffis should not have been allowed to testify that the murders had the 'trappings of occultism' because there was no testimony that the field of Satanism or occultism is generally accepted in the scientific community. The argument is without merit, as the trial court did not allow the evidence to prove that Satanism or occultism is generally accepted in the scientific community. Rather, the trial court admitted the evidence as proof of the motive for committing the murders." In regards to Jason Baldwin, a witness testified that Baldwin spoke of the murders. "He told me he dismembered the kids, or I don't know exactly how many kids. He just said he dismembered them. He sucked the blood from the penis and scrotum and put the balls in his mouth."
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April 1996, Jessie Lloyd Misskelley, Jr. v. State of Arkansas, 915 S.W.2d 702, Convictions for first and second degree murder affirmed.

Overview: Companion case to the above. Three 8 yr.old boys were brutally murdered, raped, and mutilated in Arkansas by Misskelley and two other accomplices-- Damien Echols and Jason Baldwin. The case against Misskelley was primarily based on his confession and supporting circumstantial evidence. "Misskelley stated he had been involved in a cult for three months, they met in the woods, they engaged in orgies and,as an initiation rite, the killing and eating of dogs. At one cult meeting, he saw a picture that Echols had taken of the three boys. Another witness testified that she had attended a satanic cult meeting with Echols and Misskelley. A doctor offered testimony that the type of cuts in one of the victims genital area required the use of 'skill and precision.'"
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October 1996, Ohio; Nathan Brooks found guilty of the mutilation slaying of his parents and sentenced to two consecutive life terms.

Overview: The 18 yr. old perpetrator decapitated his father and his mother was hacked to death. Brooks told the officers he used the head in a Black mass ritual that he believed would increase his satanic powers. He said he had also planned to kill a younger brother, but the youngster was visiting a friend. See, "Satanic ritual killer sentenced to life," United Press International, October 24, 1996.
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February 1996, Suzanne Hughes v. Department of Social Services Arlington County, Court of Appeals of Virginia, Termination of Parental Rights Affirmed. Record No. 2345-94-4.

Overview: A baby was removed from the custody of the mother after evidence of abuse. The mother was eventually diagnosed with Multiple Personality Disorder. The child was returned to the mother, but after further incidents of abuse and neglect she was taken into custody again. The mother's counselor testified that the mother stated she was involved with a satanic cult that killed adults and babies, and they had threatened her. She stated she was involved with them since she was 7 yrs. old. She reported members of the cult abducting and raping her. Under cross-examination, the mother was asked about the maternal grandparents failure in reporting her own abuse, and the court was concerned that she was living at the maternal grandfather's home. The trial judge also expressed concern over the continued existence of the satanic cult, appellant's inability to help the police prosecute a member of this cult, appellant's continued residence in the same family home where she had been verbally and physically abused as a small child, and lack of family support that was missing when appellant was an abused child. The appellate court found that the evidence of appellants participation in the cult described was relevant to the proceedings.
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December 1995, Jimmie Lee Penick v. State of Indiana, 659 N.E.2d 484, Conviction for murder and enhanced sentence affirmed

Overview: Four practitioners of Satanism conspired and planned to murder a prospective member of their "Satanic Church." They were concerned that the victim, William Ault, knew about a prior murder. They took him to what he thought was an initiation..."Ault was asked to lay down on a door, which was being used as an altar. Keith Lawrence read an invocation to Satan...Goodwin and the Lawrences also made cuts on Ault's chest and abdomen in the form of an inverted cross, as well as other cuts...Penick's own words describe how the victims chest and abdomen were cut open, how Goodwin tried to cut out victim's heart before he died, and how the victim remained conscious throughout this and responded to questions from the defendant." Aggravators were that Penick dismembered the victims head and hands and Penick admitted he removed the head to give the skull to a friend. Penick's defense was that he acted under the influence of his strong beliefs in Satanism but that he had converted to Christianity while in prison.
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November 15 1995, Steven Brian Alvarado v. State of Texas, 912 S.W.2d 199, Convictions and death sentence affirmed.

Overview: Alvarado killed two people, a mother and son, during a drug deal. A year or so prior to the murder Alvarado had been in the hospital. The psychologist stated he was considered "violent and dangerous and that he had a full-blown antisocial personality disorder."... he had "no concern for the rights of others, and that he admitted selling illegal weapons, abusing and selling illegal drugs, sexually assaulting a woman, mutilating human infants in satanic rituals, and committing numerous other crimes. He was discharged after twelve days in the hospital because he was felt to be a danger to the other patients and that he was not suffering from a mental illness that was treatable, and, therefore under the mental health code had to be discharged."
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August 1995, Edward Bennett v. State of Nevada, 901 P.2d 676, Murder conviction affirmed.

Overview: Bennett was sentenced to death for killing a girl. Writings were seized showing that the murder was "ritualistic and satanic." Some of these statements included: "There's a problem in this country and has a lot to do with being white. There's too many people with ugly skin."... "I need to kill somebody or tear someone apart. I got to satisfy my need, cure this thirst for blood. So as I make the sacrifice by doing it just for you and kill this child, for it is a first born, I'm giving you my soul, Satan. Where is my reward? My thirst for blood is now calm, but it shall rise again. My power is so strong I need to cause some death. For Lucifer's inside of me, and I don't want to let him out. I look in the mirror, I see him in my eyes. I feel his heart beating in my chest, and I know it is not mine. For I feel so privileged for I'm with number one. I'm so f_____powerful and my reigning has just begun as I kill and kill again. I feel my rewards come on. My power's growing even greater. I'm so f___ strong for I am the devil's right-hand man. I carry out his every chore. I make this sacrifice in his name, Lucifer the Great, blood splattered on my face from the kill I've just done.
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blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:20 AM
July 1995, STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA v. MICHAEL ALAN PARKER, SR. NO. COA94-1045 COURT OF APPEALS OF NORTH CAROLINA 119 N.C. App. 328; 459 S.E.2d 9; 1995 N.C. App. LEXIS 523 July 5, 1995, Filed. Convictions for multiple counts of child molestation affirmed.

Overview: The defendant thought there should be a mistrial for several reasons, one of which was witness testimony that he threatened to bomb the woman's shelter his wife and family were staying at. Appeals court describes children testimony: "... Defendant pulled down S's pants and threw her on the floor and inserted a spoon into her vagina and moved it around. Defendant took blood that was on the spoon, put it in a cup and drank it while the others were standing around singing with lit candles."..."S testified that when defendant took her to the woods behind her grandmother's house and abused her in front of several people holding lit candles, another young girl, A Robinson, "started screaming at first and then she jumped up and she had no clothes on and she started running and her dad jumped up and started chasing after her through the woods." One of the children also described molest by the grandmother. In news articles she's named as the co-defendant. A news article relates that the children testified that Parker raped and sodomized them in the family's trailer near Saluda and in nearby woods, often while other people wearing black pants and white shirts stood around chanting. See, "Dad guilty of Abusing children Sexually, Eight Life Sentences" Greensboro News & Record, Feb. 6, 1994
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June 1995, Athens, Greece; Satanic Cult leader Asimakis Katsoulas and Manos Dimitrokallis were found guilty of kidnapping, raping and murdering a 30 year old woman and a 15 year old girl during occult ceremonies. They were sentenced to life imprisonment. Dimitra Maryetti was found guilty of complicity and sentenced to 23 years.

Overview: Katsoulas and his "high priestess" confessed to leading a 20 member satanic cult, which had conducted animal and human sacrifices for three years. The first victim was killed at her initiation ceremony. Katsoulas claimed he was the vehicle for "ancient demons." Another witness was abducted when the murderers told her they were police officers who wanted to question her. See, "Two young men confess to Rape, Murder of two women as part of a satanic cult ritual, police said"; AP, Dec. 28, 1993 and "Court convicts, sentences two to life terms for murder", AP, June 30, 1995.
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December 1994, IN THE MATTER OF: Heather BARKER, NEGLECTED CHILD, COURT OF APPEALS OF OHIO, Case No. 441 SEVENTH APPELLATE DISTRICT, HARRISON COUNTY, LEXIS 6100, Juvenile Court Decision to Grant Permanent Custody to DHS Affirmed

Overview: At the age of 5, Heather was taken into custody by DHS due to physical injuries to her genital area. Cumulative testimony proved to the court that she'd been sexually molested by clear and convincing evidence, although there wasn't any obvious perpetrator to hold accountable. The mother was cited for neglect and was given 18 months reunification services but they did not alleviate the problems which brought the child into custody. Social Services didn't think the mother could protect the child. The child was prone to "trance-like" states after unsupervised visits with the mother and other unusual behavior. A treating psychologist and social worker thought the child had been ritually sexually abused based on her statements. A trial took place contesting these matters and the court amended the abuse complaint, based on clear and convincing evidence, to a finding of neglect as well.
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April 1994, In Re: Chrystal and Tasha, Superior Court of Connecticut, Juvenile Matters, Lexis 1061. Termination of Parental Rights Affirmed

Overview: Appellate opinion cites that these children were in several placements over a period of 4 years after a finding of neglect in juvenile court. The mother was in and out of prison due to drug usage and sales. One of the children had been diagnosed with multiple personality disorder and had been subjected to Satanism. It was not clear whether the incidents took place with the biological mother or in the foster homes the child was in over the years where allegations of abuse had been confirmed. Further exploration revealed that the child connected terrifying experiences in a ritualistic, abusive church and sexual abuse with her biological mother. Contact with her mother was suspended when the child began exhibiting negative behaviors after visitations or after other types of communication.
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March 1994, State of North Carolina v. Patrick S. Figured, 446 S.E.2d 838, Convictions affirmed for first-degree sexual offenses involving 3 children.

Overview: Figured had entered an Alford Plea of guilty to all three charges. The state agreed to dismiss charges against his girlfriend, Sonja Hill. The DA reindicted Sonja Hill and on April 15, 1991 wanted his guilty plea set aside on the grounds the DA had violated the agreement. The motion was granted. On March 9 1992, a grand jury re-indicted Figured and he was convicted of all charges. A news article reports that parents of two of these victims filed a civil suit against Sonja Hill and her mother who ran the daycare center. The parents alleged that their children had been forced to participate in Satan worship while being abused. The kids spoke of having to drink blood, their abusers burned Bibles and wore masks and capes. Hill and her mother did not answered the lawsuit, and a Johnston County jury awarded a $10.5 million judgment to the parents who didn't believe they'd ever collect the money but wanted other people to know that these acts do occur. See, "Johnston couple win child sex abuse suit" News and Observer, Mar 27, 1990
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Dec. 1993, Washington D.C, United States. On December 27, 1993, U.S. News and World Report cited that the Justice Dept. was reinvestigating the "Finders case."

The news article mentions that some of the unresolved questions are allegations that the Finders Group are linked to the Central Intelligence Agency and whether or not the investigation into their activity had been closed inappropriately.

Overview: "The many unanswered questions about the Finders case now have Democratic Rep. Charlie Rose of North Carolina, Chairman of the House Administration committee, and Florida's Rep. Tom Lewis, a Republican, more than a little exercised. "Could our own government have something to do with this Finders organization and turned their backs on these children? That's what all the evidence points to," says Lewis, and there's a lot of evidence."... "Law enforcement sources say some of the Finders are listed in the FBI's classified counterintelligence files."

As background, in early Feb. 1987 six children were taken into custody in Tallahassee, Florida. Two men were charged with child abuse, but charges were dropped. The men said the children were "transporting these children to Mexico and a school for brilliant children" Their mothers were located in a group called the Finders. At the same time, Washington, D.C., police and U.S. Customs Service agents raided a duplex apartment building and a warehouse connected to the group. Customs Reports cite that among the evidence seized were detailed instructions on obtaining children for unknown purposes around the world, child trafficking, instructions to keep the above six children moving and how to avoid detection, several photographs of nude children that appeared to "accent" the child's genitals; photographs of children involved in animal rituals, an altar, jars of urine and feces, and a staging area, all of which appeared to the Custom's Agents as an "indoctrination" center. Custom's agents were told to drop their investigation because it had become a "CIA internal matter" and that is documented in their report.

"Officials of the U.S. Customs Service, called in to aid in the investigation, said that the material seized yesterday includes photos showing children involved in bloodletting ceremonies of animals and one photograph of a child in chains. Customs officials said they were looking into whether a child pornography operation was being conducted." See, "Officials Describe 'Cult Rituals' in Child Abuse Case", The Washington Post, Feb. 7, 1987 and, "Through a glass, very darkly: Cops, spies and a very odd investigation," U.S. News and World Report,
December 27, 1993/January 3, 1994
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November 1993, COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA v. RICKIE JAY GADDIS, Appellant NO. 00561 PITTSBURGH, 1993 SUPERIOR COURT OF PENNSYLVANIA 432 Pa. Super. 523; 639 A.2d 462; 1994 Pa. Super. LEXIS 963, Argued March 22, 1994

Overview: In the judges own words, "These consolidated appeals are taken from the judgments of sentence imposed on February 9, 1993. Appellant was found guilty in two separate trials of more than 150 counts of aggravated assault, 18 Pa.C.S. ¤ 2702; recklessly endangering another person, ¤ 2705; terroristic threats, ¤ 2706; endangering the welfare of children, ¤ 4304; corruption of minors, ¤ 6301; false imprisonment, ¤ 2903; simple assault, ¤ 2701; prohibited offensive weapons, ¤ 908; rape, ¤ 3121; statutory rape, ¤ 3122; involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, ¤ 3123; aggravated indecent assault, ¤ 3125; indecent exposure, ¤ 3127; incest, ¤ 4302; and criminal conspiracy, ¤ 903.

Overview: "These charges arose from the horrific sexual, physical and emotional abuse and neglect by appellant, Rickie Jay Gaddis, of his minor children." Gaddis was sentenced to 235 years (plus) in prison. The appellate court affirmed his sentence but vacated his fine. There had been concern he was going to capitalize on his crimes by selling a book. The police stated at the time that the children were subjected by their parents and neighbors to ritualistic torture that included bloodlettings with a sword, satanic ceremonies, hot needles under their fingernails, sodomy, stretching and tattooing. See, "Pa. couple is charged with torturing children; Police say neighbors also took part in abuse", The Atlanta Journal and Constitution, November 26, 1991; and "Pennsylvania Couple Charged With Brutalizing Their Children," The Washington Post, November 26, 1991: and "Parents charged with Torturing their Children", Associated Press, Nov. 25, 1991
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November 1992, Austin, Texas; People of Texas v. Frances and Daniel Keller, Case #924217, Convicted for aggravated sexual assault on a child; Sentenced to 48 years. Both cases upheld on appeal No. 3-92-603-CR, and No. 3-92-604-CR on Oct 26, 1994.

Overview: News articles chronicling the trial cited more than one child thought to be abused at "Fran's Day Care" in Austin, Texas, operated by the Keller's, but this particular case cites their conviction of only one child, while news reports say other charges with other children are pending. Tears were found in the child's vagina. Douglas Wayne Perry, the ex-husband of one of the two other alleged perpetrators who were former deputy constables, confessed that he, along with the constables and the Kellers, engaged in "beer and sex parties, during which several children were sexually assaulted by the adults while photographs were taken." He recanted his confession but then pleaded guilty to a charge of indecency with a child. He confessed to tearing a head off a doll and threatening the children that if they told, their heads would come off the same way. The children described ritual acts, being terrorized in a graveyard, seeing animals killed and bodies dug up and mutilated with a chainsaw.

A 6-yr-old child, who also claimed to be a victim, testified on the behalf of the 3 1/2 year old and called Fran's Day Care, "Fran's Hate Care." The defense lawyers used videos showing some the younger child recanting, saying the abuse never happened, to try to undermine the case. The parents claimed that one of the perpetrators was flashing threatening hand signals during the child's testimony. The defense also stated that the claims were "too outlandish to be believed" because the children also spoke of going on airplane rides and seeing a baby killed. A child led an investigator to a graveyard where they found animal bones. Parents of two children, who said they were abused, have filed a civil suit holding three people accountable (the three described above) for not reporting the abuse. Another mother said "I put my son in a mental hospital as a result of this abuse (by the Kellers), and it's only been through over a year of intensive psychotherapy that he's begun to partially heal." See, "6-yr-old testifies he witnessed abuse of girl", Nov. 24, 1992 , and "Kellers found guilty of sexual assault", Nov. 26, 1992, Austin American Statesman
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October 1992, Earnest v. State, Supreme Court of Georgia, 422 S.E.2d 188, Conviction for murder affirmed.

Overview: Earnest was convicted of malice murder. A self-described high priest of a satanic cult performed a satanic ritual over the female victim. Evidence of Satan worship and evidence of the cult's involvement in church vandalisms was admissible as evidence as to motive for the crime.
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September 1992, Eastland County, Texas. The STATE OF TEXAS VS. PHIL STANLEY ROGERS; Case No. 18, 738; Charged and pleaded guilty to "Indecency with a child, younger than 17 years, committed during the course of a ritual." Jury sentence - 99 years.

Overview: A news report [no date yet], cites that the rituals began with the purchase of a Ouija board. Items taken as evidence included books covering satanic topics, pentagram symbols, candles, daggers and wands.
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April 1992, In the Matter of the Welfare of J. M. P., C9-91 -1899, COURT OF APPEALS OF MINNESOTA, Lexis 436. Termination of Parental Rights Affirmed.

Overview: By the mother's own admission, her past included "years of sexual and physical abuse, parental neglect, early and long-standing addiction to numerous drugs, serious mental health problems, and involvement in a satanic cult." Her child was taken into custody after two hospitalizations due to overdosing. The mother was involved in four incidents, three involving criminal convictions, which caused harm to children, including J.M.P. The mother tried to commit suicide, and was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder.

March 1992, Orlando, Florida; Margie Wright pleaded no contest to three charges of attempted sexual battery and two charges of attempted lewd acts and was sentenced to 5 1/2 years in prison. Jim Wright was convicted of raping and fondling five children.

Overview: Three news articles describing the case cite that this couple were charged with molesting children in the context of satanic rituals. The parents of three of the victims moved residences and the prosecutor expressed concern because the children had been threatened by the cult not to testify. The victim's parents met the Wrights through their Church. The children reported that they saw Wright sacrifice a stray dog, slit its throat and stomach and remove some entrails. Sheriff's investigators found the dog's skeleton near the Wright's trailer. The Wright's molested children during their "Magic Show." The victims said he pulled a gun out of a hat and made their underwear disappear. They stated that Jim Wright put a "bad curse" on them and said "devil words." The children described satanic symbols, chalices filled with blood and a box containing a corpse. They had been told not to tell or their parents would be killed. Maggie Wright testified against her husband while she pleaded no contest to reduced charges. See, "Convict's Wife Sentenced for Trying to Molest Kids", Orlando Sentinel Tribune, May 9, 1992; "A Family Fears That Satanic Cult will try to Silence their Sons," Orlando Sentinel Tribune, August 10, 1991; "Child Abuse Suspect Trades
Testimony for Lesser Charges", Orlando Sentinel Tribune, January 31, 1992
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January 1992, THE STATE OF WASHINGTON V. Paul Ross Ingram, NO. 13613-9-II Division Two, Confession to sexual molestation and 20 yr. exceptional sentence affirmed.

Overview: Paul Ingram, former Thurston County chief civil deputy sheriff and 16-year law enforcement officer, was arrested November 28, 1988 following allegations of sexual abuse made by his daughters, then about 18 and 22 years old. Ingram waived his right to counsel and made incriminating statements. After six months of further investigation and interrogation, Ingram was charged by amended information with six counts of rape in the third degree, three counts per daughter covering July through October 1988. He tried to withdraw his guilty plea but that was denied.

Note: It's been widely reported (by the officer's involved) that Ingram also confessed to ritually abusing his children in the context of satanic ceremony, which his daughters also claimed took place. Richard Ofshe of the FMSF tried to talk Ingram out of his confession by claiming he confessed in a "trance-like" state and "proved" that by suggesting to Ingram a case scenario which very well could have happened. In reality, Ofshe's experiment was not proof of "false memories" or proof of a false confession, and the court rejected these claims. Both Ofshe and Elizabeth Loftus of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation also testified at Ingram's clemency hearing trying to help obtain his release. According to news articles and the Clemency Board Transcripts, Ingram's son also attended that particular hearing and asked the board to keep his father in prison, as did other members of the Ingram family, which the board did. See, "Felons hope for a parting gift from Lowry", Seattle Times, Dec. 12, 1996
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Feb 1992, San Francisco, California; Michael A. Aquino, Plaintiff-Appellant v. Michael P.W. Stone, Secretary of the Army, 957 F.2d 139, 768 F.Supp. 529 - Dismissal of lawsuit affirmed.

Overview: Michael Aquino, the founder of a Satanist group, Temple of Set, was a Lt. Col in the Army Active Reserves. After the Presidio Day Care case, he sued the Army after they "titled" him under an investigatory report for indecent acts with a child, sodomy, conspiracy, kidnapping, and false swearing, and for his dismissal from the active reserves. The documents state:

"Aquino contends that evidence collected by the Army CID did not justify its creating an investigation report titled under his name and that those involved with the investigation were motivated to remove him from the Army because he is the founder of the Temple of Set, a Satanist religion."

"Aquino filed suit in the district court under the Privacy Act, U.S.C 552a(g) to compel the Army to amend the investigatory report about him and for damages resulting from his discharge from the service, which he attributes to the inaccurate records about him.

"{1** In 1990 a continuation board of the Army Reserve recommended discontinuing Aquino's service in the Reserve, and he was processed out of the Army."

Aquino was never criminally charged and the Army released its report and titled him 3 months after the criminal statute of limitations ran. Aquino's lawsuit against the Army was dismissed.

Note: Aquino claims to have received a Meritorious Certificate from the Army in 1994.











IMPORTANT *Overview: Michael Aquino, the founder of a Satanist group, Temple of Set, was a Lt. Col in the Army Active Reserves. After the Presidio Day Care case, he sued the Army after they "titled" him under an investigatory report for indecent acts with a child, sodomy, conspiracy, kidnapping, and false swearing, and for his dismissal from the active reserves. The documents state:

blackyblue
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Sept. 1988, Santa Rosa, Calif; People v. Daryl T. Ball, Court No. 14750-C, Pleaded no contest to lewd and lascivious acts with 6 child victims.

Overview: The case involved brutal sexual assault of these children in the context of a "devil worship club." The two main culprits, Charlotte Thrailkill and Daryl Ball, were caught and sentenced to prison. The Criminal Investigative Division of the Army interviewed some of these same children in their "titling" investigation of Michael Aquino of the Temple of Set. (Case above). This case was described by the prosecutor as involving multi-victims/perpetrators and ritual abuse, although Ball and Thrailkill were the only ones charged. The prosecutor described the extreme terror the children experienced and the difficulty for them to testify. During the 18 month preliminary hearing, the children testified that they were threatened to keep quiet or the perpetrators would eat their mothers hearts and make them eat it. They described being given injections (or were bled), and being tied up. Daryl Ball threatened witnesses to keep them from testifying. The children also described being molested while being filmed with a banner in the background reading "Super Duper Child Molest Day." They were forced to watch the video of their own molest afterwards. A plea bargain was struck, reportedly to spare the kids from having to testify further.

**In Sept. 1998, Charlotte Thrailkill was declared a violent sexual molest predator--the first female to have that distinction in California. See, "Thrailkill a sexual predator, Ex-SR woman first in state with designation", Santa Rosa Press Democrat, Sept. 9, 1998
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July 1991, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania v. Jason L. Enders,
et al, 407 Pa. Superior Ct. 201, Conviction Affirmed.

Overview: Defendants were convicted of false imprisonment stemming from their participation in a Satanic cult ritual. Victim stated he wanted nothing to do with them but he was forcibly taken to an abandoned barn and tied to stakes in the ground over a pentagram drawn in the dirt. A satanic ritual was performed over him. He had a leather collar with nails placed around his neck. One of the defendants punctured his neck by pressing on the nails and placed his fingers in the victim's blood and then to his lips. He was released after being warned he'd be killed if he told anyone. The appellate court stated admitting evidence of belief in and involvement in Satanism at the time was relevant and probative. Skulls and books were taken from their homes as evidence.
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April 1991, Montana. State of Montana v. Leon Lloyd Whitcher, 810 P2d 751, Conviction Affirmed.

Overview: A 30 yr. old self-described "high priest" of a satanic cult had sexual intercourse with a 14 yr. old without consent. Prior to the assault, he asked her a series of questions about initiation into his satanic cult, whether she wanted "power," and if she'd "obey a high priest." He told her to change into a black robe, lie down, and stare at a pentagram painted on the ceiling before he assaulted her.
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March 1991, STATE MISSOURI v. THERON REED ROLAND COURT OF APPEALS OF MISSOURI, WESTERN DISTRICT, No. WD 40883, 808 S.W.2d 855, STATE OF MISSOURI, RESPONDENT, First degree murder conviction affirmed.

Overview: According to Roland, he murdered his friend after becoming involved in Satanism, began using drugs, and listening to groups like "Megadeth" that "advocated sexual and physical violence." He began hallucinating, practiced self-mutilation, tortured and killed animals and "chanted" to Satan for power. He developed a mentor relationship with another teen Satanist and they both decided to sacrifice Steve Newberry by clubbing him to death. Roland believed this human sacrifice would "cause Satan to appear and give them power." Roland wanted the defense expert on the occult to testify about the effects of Satanism on the mind. The court let the expert testify to other aspects of the occult but didn't feel that he was qualified to testify on psychiatric aspects of the case.
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Oct 89, People of the State of Illinois, v. Andrew Kokoraleis, No. 65229, Supreme Court of Illinois, 547 N.E.2d 202. Conviction for murder and death penalty affirmed.

Overview: Four members of a satanic cult, including Robin Gecht, were perpetrators in a series of gruesome murders, rituals, and acts of cannibalism over a number of years.

"Thomas Kokoraleis told investigators that the room had contained an altar, made from a board covered with red cloth, where cult members cut up animal parts, and sometimes human parts, for sacrifice. See, "GRUESOME CLUES LED TO AN ALTAR IN AN ATTIC", Chicago Tribune, October 12, 1987
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Dec. 17, 1990, Conviction for first degree murder perpetrated by torture affirmed; No. C-92-1523 EFL UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 1995 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 19425 - habeas petition denied; June 1985, San Francisco, Calif., People v. Cliff St. Joseph, 226 Cal. App. 3d 289,

Overview: A body was discovered in San Francisco, California on June 15, 1985. "John Doe" had multiple stab wounds, genital injuries, and a pentagram had been carved into his chest. The court notes that there was "substantial evidence" that it was a sadistic, ritualistic human sacrifice consisting of whipping with a chain, slashing the victim's lips, dripping wax into the victim's eyes, burning and carving the victim's flesh with a knife, multiple stabbings, tying the limbs with guitar wire, and genital mutilations. The identity of the victim was never established. The case was solved when the police arrested 4 people for disturbing the peace, one of whom was a Ricky Hunter. Hunter claimed St. Joseph and the others had held him against his will and assaulted him; there was talk of satanic worship and the other three people had been speaking of "sacrificing" him. One of the offenders stated he had been present when St. Joseph had "John Doe" in his home and he helped St. Joseph dispose of the murdered victim described above. The court found that there was sufficient evidence proving that the injuries had been inflicted on the victim while he was still alive. The Coroner testified that some of the wounds inflicted were consistent with sadomasochistic practices, but the Court made a point of highlighting that the manner in which the victim was murdered, along with inferred intent, indicated that this was a ritualistic sacrifice.
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February 1990, Utah. STATE of Utah v. Alan B. HADFIELD, 788 P2d 506 Convictions for sodomy and child molest; remanded back to court for evidentiary hearing.

Overview: A. Hadfield was convicted of sodomy and sexual abuse of his children after his children testified against him. He appealed based on claims of "newly discovered evidence." This was an allegation by a paralegal who stated that the therapist involved in counseling his children and others in this Mormon community was the common factor in these cases, and inferred that the therapist was responsible for the allegations. The appellate opinion cites that at "least fifteen adults and fifteen children were identified as participants in various unusual sexual activities, including instances of group abuse of children by adults. The activities described by the children involved satanic ritual, costumes and masks, photography equipment, men dressing in women's clothing, and frequent episodes of playing with and consuming human excrement. A specific instance of abuse related to Dr. Snow by W. and described by her at trial for example, involved defendant's removing feces from Ex.'s rectum with a spoon and forcing him to play with it." The appellate court remanded the case back to court for an evidentiary hearing if the affidavit by the paralegal had merit.

Note: According to the prosecutor, the judge reviewed the information and found that there was no evidence to support the claims of the paralegal. Alan Hadfield's conviction still stands and he was released from probation in 1998.
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April 1989, Harold Glenn Smith v. The State of Texas, No. B14-86-00659-CR, Lexis 794, Conviction for murder affirmed.

Overview: A group tricked one of their friends into accompanying them to a cemetery where they tortured him. A witness testified that Smith compared the planned murder of his victim with animal sacrifice rituals he had carried out before. The prosecution presented evidence of his satanic belief system.
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1989, New York. Monika Beerle, a dancer in New York was dismembered by her boyfriend, Daniel Rakowitz. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity but was sent to a mental institution. In 1992, Randy Charles Easterday, 27, was charged as a participant in the crime.

Overview: Reportedly, Monika's boyfriend was involved in a satanic cult and he had served a human finger in soup to homeless people. News report states, "the group to which Rakowitz and Easterday belonged has been identified by NY Newsday as a cult of devil worshipers who operated out of the Church of the Realized Fantasy. Police sources claimed they butchered her in a ritual sacrifice and a satanic offering." See, "New arrest in Swiss dancer slaying raises cult specter.", UPI, Feb. 18,1992 and "Acquitted 'cannibal killer' to stay put", UPI, Oct. 25, 1995
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November 1989, Gibreville, Gabon. Mba Ntem was found guilty and sentenced to death for murder and leading cannibalism rites.

Overview: Several members of this religious cult were found guilty of aiding in "cannibalism ceremonies by serving human flesh to worshippers." A victim's mutilated remains were found in another town, and a photo was published of the high priest with a knife in his teeth and a jar containing pieces of a victim's tongue in his manacled hands. In the ceremony led by Ntem, members of the cult ate the victim's stomach, liver, heart, lungs, tongue and genitals in what their leader called a "sacred plate." Some of the worshippers were unaware of the contents, Ntem told the court. The court prohibited other details from being released. The news article states that "Animism" is a loose religious belief popular in central Africa and other parts of the word that a spirit or force resides in every animate and inanimate object. See, "Death Sentence for High Priest in Cannibalism Trial," Associated Press, November 26, 1989.
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December 1988, State of Ohio. v. John L. Fryman, Case No. CA87-10-125, Lexis 5296, Conviction for murder affirmed.

Overview: Fryman took a woman to his "sorcery room where he had erected an altar for satanic worship". He shot her. The next day he cut off the woman's legs above the knees and disposed of them behind an old church. The rest of the body was never found. Fryman claimed that he had killed her because she had insulted him by bringing another magician to his trailer, and that he disposed of her legs behind the church because "it was the place he practiced magic. By throwing her legs there he increased the power of that spot."
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November 1988, Singapore. Three cult members hanged for
murder

Overview: Adrian Lim, 46, his wife, Tan Mui Choo, 34, and his girlfriend Hoe Kah Hong, 33, were convicted in 1983 of murdering Agnes Ng Siew Heok, eight, and Ghazali Marzuki, 10, in 1981. The three perpetrators belonged to a cult that believed sacrificing children could bring good luck. The three drank the children's blood after suffocating them in a bathtub. Another news report writes that the "macabre ritualistic killings included drinking the children's blood, trances, and electric shock 'treatments.'" See, "Three Singaporeans Hanged for Cult Murder of Children", Reuters, November 25, 1988 and "Three hanged in Singapore for ritual killings" UPI, Nov 25, 1988
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July 1988, New York, In the Matter of DANIEL "DD" et al., Alleged to be Abused and Neglected Children, 530 N.Y.S.2d 314, July 7, 1988. Finding of Neglect Affirmed.

Overview: The mother was appealing an order from Family Court finding she had neglected her children. She had allowed visitations to continue between the father and his girlfriend even though she knew that the girlfriends children had been removed from the home for sexual abuse, and she did not question the situation until the father and girlfriend were arrested on sexual abuse charges. Social Services had investigated the case. All children had been forced by threats of physical abuse to "engage in acts of sexual intercourse...among themselves and with adults." In addition, they described participation in forced acts of bestiality, as well as involvement in satanic rituals involving the sacrifice of animals and the drinking of blood. The court cites there was evidence that the mother may have been involved in these activities as well.
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August 1986, State of Maine v. Scott Waterhouse. 513 A.2d 862, Murder conviction affirmed

Overview: Waterhouse was convicted for the murder of a 12 yr. old girl. Evidence of Satanism and excerpts from the "Satanic Bible" were admitted at trial for purposes of showing motive and intent. During taped conversations with detectives, Waterhouse described his beliefs about sex and destruction rituals.
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March 1986, Commonwealth of Massachusetts v. Carl H. Drew, 489 N.E.2d 1233, Murder conviction affirmed.

Overview: Drew was convicted of the first degree murder of one of his satanic cult members in Fall River. The victim, Karen Marsden, was identified by a portion of the skull, clumps of hair, clothing, and jewelry. Evidence was admitted describing Marsden and another woman who worked for Drew as prostitutes. Another prostitute, Doreen Levesque was killed. According to witness testimony... "the killing was performed as a diabolic ritual during which the soul of Marsden was purportedly given to Satan." Earlier, Marsden had tried to sever relationship with the cult. Drew threatened to kill her on several occasions, which he finally did. "Murphy dragged Marsden by the throat and hair into the woods. As she did this, the defendant walked alongside while Fletcher and Davis followed close behind. Murphy and the defendant then began striking Marsden with rocks. After further brutalizing Marsden, the defendant ordered Murphy to slit Marsden's throat and Murphy complied. The defendant then tore the head from the body and kicked it." Drew later told another person that he had killed Marsden because "she wanted to leave the cult and that he wanted her to feel pain." The court specifically stated Drew's involvement in Satanism and the victim's desire to leave the cult was evidentially important to detail the context of the crime to the jury, as opposed to viewing the murders as just random acts of violence.
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February 1986, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, v. Frank G. Costal, Jr., 505 A.2d 337, Murder conviction affirmed.

Overview: Expert testimony regarding Satanism and mind control was admitted into the court record to explain the killings of a mother and her 4 yr. old daughter. The killings appeared to be in retaliation for the mother's interference in a drug deal and homosexual relationship between her husband and Costal. The state submitted evidence that the murders were performed in a "ritualistic manner." The victims were stabbed in a similar fashion, in the same pattern. Ceremonial robes, books, posters, plastic skulls and bats, and marriage licenses drawn up by Costal and signed by him as a "high priest" of Satan were seized from his apartment. A witness testified that Costal told him of attendance at human sacrifices and that 17 was the number of stab wounds required at these ritualistic killings.
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December 1983, Detroit, Michigan. Arzell Jones was convicted of first-degree criminal sexual conduct, single counts of kidnapping and using a firearm during a felony. Linda Greene was convicted of two counts of first-degree criminal sexual conduct.

Overview: Arzell Jones, a private investigator, and Linda Greene, a Detroit policewoman, were convicted of sexually assaulting a 31-year-old woman who was held for more than three days and forced to take part in satanic rituals. The prosecutor stated the woman was a victim of some "cultism, some ultimate psychological warfare". See, "Judge Says Victim was Subjected to 'Reign of Terror' Man, Policewoman Guilty of Sexual Assault in Satanic Rituals," Detroit Free Press, December 3, 1983.
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May 1982, William Smith v. Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 436 N.E.2d 377, Immunity for witness was affirmed..

Overview: William Smith contested immunity for witness who was to testify against him for a murder. The appellate opinion states "these murders were among a series of ritual killings performed in the Fall River area by members of a Satanic cult ...The witness described the ritual that accompanied the murder, and named various participants." The witness also recanted
several times before finally testifying.
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September 1979, Philippines. A couple were charged with murder for "eating" two brothers..

Overview: Police reported that a couple, whose names were not disclosed, belonged to a sect which believed that cannibalism confers supernatural powers. The brothers were kidnapped from a city 650 miles from Manila. They were allegedly beheaded by members of the sect, then photographs of the beheadings were taken by a leader of the cult and sent to the widow of one of the victims. Officials stated it took a long time to bring charges because witnesses were too fearful of testifying due to fears of reprisals by the cannibal sect. See, "A man and his wife have been charged by Philippines police with eating two brothers." Reuters, September 20, 1979
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blackyblue
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Is beginning to seem a bit more than just isolated incidents

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:34 AM
Parents of two schoolgirls who committed suicide in Soweto are worried after one of them left a note indicating she was involved with a satanic cult.
“I am tired of this satanism. I can’t leave them, so I am hanging myself,” the note left by Ntombikayise Tshabalala read.
The 17-year-old girl killed herself on Tuesday afternoon.
Yesterday her young neighbour Delisile Mbhadane, 12, also hanged herself.
She had asked her mother whether she had heard of Ntombikayise killing herself and about her note.
Her mother, Busisiwe Mbhadane, told Sowetan that her daughter asked her: “Mother, what would you do if I hanged myself?”
Mbhadane answered that she would give her a hiding.
The girls lived 20metres apart in Zola 2, Soweto.
Tshabalala was a Grade 10 pupil at Lavela Secondary School while Mbhadane was in Grade 5 at Zola Higher Primary School.
Nomakhosi Tshabalala, Ntombikayise’s mother, said: “I cannot explain what I am feeling. I am trying to be strong for my other two kids.
“Ntombikayise has mentioned this satanism church before. We never took her seriously.
“She came home from school as usual on Tuesday and I sent her to the shops.
“When she came back she went straight to her room.”
Tshabalala said 20 minutes later when they checked she was hanging by her shoelaces from an electrical bar on the wall.
Mbhadane’s daughter was found hanging by a tie in a friend’s shack a few streets away from home.
“It baffles me. Delisile was a happy child. She loved playing and dancing,” she said.
The deaths of the two girls have caused a stir in the community and speculation is rife that a ring recruiting the youth to the cult is operating in the area.

Community members and Tshabalala said they know of people in this ring.
Police inspector Kay Makhubela said: “This is a serious concern to us.
“We don’t know why two youngsters would kill themselves within such a short space of time .
“We are investigating and an inquest docket has been opened,” Makhubela said.


http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/2008/08/satanic-cult-linked-to-suicides-of-two.html

blackyblue
04-03-2012, 07:39 AM
There is probably not a school in South Africa where Satanism does not exist, says Senior Superintendent Dr Attie Lamprecht, national head of the police unit dealing with occult-related crimes.

But parents were mostly to blame when children got involved in Satanism and the occult, he said.

"If you do not spend time with your children, someone or something else will," Lamprecht warned during SAfm Radio's discussion programme, The After Eight Debate. The topic was: "Can fanatical beliefs pose a danger to society?".

The topic was chosen in the light of the killing of a 16-year-old schoolboy, Jacques Pretorius, in Krugersdorp this week by a fellow pupil who was allegedly involved in Satanism.

Lamprecht told the debating panel that there appeared to be an increase in the incidence of Satanism in South Africa.

But this was only to be expected as more and more children - and adults as well - had access to the media giving information on such issues.

"We have a group of detectives who are in the process of exposing more and more detectives to the investigation of harmful religious practices," he said.

Lamprecht said his unit was not interested in the beliefs as such, but only in those practices related to crime. "If there is not a crime involved, there is religious freedom."

But he said that when children started to explore these issues, it could affect their behaviour.

"They start to reject everything that is moral, coming from their school and their parents. They think they are on a higher level, in a relationship with some kind of supernatural deity."

Lamprecht said that Satan, for instance, represented vengeance - as opposed to turning the other cheek. "They take this very literally, so the vengeance issue becomes very active," he said. "Let's face it, it is a religion of the flesh."

He said he knew he was treading on dangerous ground when he said Satanism was probably in all schools, but this prevalence had resulted from the free access many children have to the internet and other sources of information.

"Many parents give carte blanche access to information," he said. "There is no cyber prohibition. Children are curious and start exploring these things.

"It starts with white magic. It goes to gateway religious systems and then to destructive religions. It is pretty prevalent."

Lamprecht did not, however, draw a direct link to the Krugersdorp killing. "I won't go as far as to say it leads to that kind of violence generally."

He said he had spoken to children who had become involved with crime because of their occult beliefs. "In most cases it boils down to an emotional need."

He had also spoken to a Satanist convicted of a double murder.

"These individuals are in immense emotional and spiritual chaos," he said. "They often knew the different religions and belief systems very well, but had chosen to follow the route of Satanism."

Lamprecht spoke of how the convicted murderer, when asked if he had a message for children, said: "Listen to your mom."

It was pertinent that the murderer did not speak of the father, the authority figure, but rather of the caring mother figure.

"There is a clear message that in our families we must get back to basics. We must start loving our children and guiding them. There is absolute carte blanche in a great deal of homes, where children have no borders at all."

Satanism has often been linked to heavy-metal music. But Cliff Crabb, of the group Aggro, told the panel that it made no sense to blame a heinous crime like the one in Krugersdorp on music.

Crabb said some of the more angry artists did tell stories about the world m Says South African chief of police














and its problems. He said children identified with the artists and were influenced by their music. "It is a hell of a responsibility."

On the other hand, children have told him his music helped them out of suicidal situations and had changed their lives.

"I am going to sing about Aids and I am going to sing about drug abuse and the things that are happening out there," he said.

But a woman who described herself as a former "president" of the Satanists, Maureen Fazwa, said there was a definite link between the occult and heavy-metal music. She admitted she had killed for Satan. She had also drunk human blood and eaten human flesh. "I was baptised with urine and with blood."

Fazwa said she had since turned to Christianity and been saved.





http://religiouschildabuse.blogspot.com/2008/08/there-is-probably-not-school-in-south.html

knightofthegrail
04-03-2012, 07:42 AM
Fr. Malachi Martin had for a long time maintained that Satanists had infiltrated the Vatican.

Are you aware of the origins of the Prayer to St Michael the Archangel? At the core of it is this:

In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered.

which is taken in tradition Catholicism to represent the church falling into apostacy at Vatican 2, leading to all manner of bizarre things (like a Pope kissing a Quran and consorting with all manner of other religions).

exu156
04-03-2012, 08:52 AM
Sex cult was inspired by 'the Great Beast'
The cult’s inspiration, Aleister ‘the Great Beast’ Crowley, believed himself to be a prophet of a new age of personal liberty, controlled by the ancient Egyptian god Horus.
He was a bisexual heroin addict whose doctrine for life was ‘Do What Thou Wilt’, advocating sexual promiscuity and prostitution.
Crowley was a frequenter of orgies and brothels, and contracted gonorrhea from a prostitute.
Born into a wealthy family in Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, he gained such notoriety during his lifetime that he was denounced in the press as ‘the wickedest man in the world’.
Crowley’s work has been cited as an influence by famous figures including Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page, who bought Crowley’s former home and set up an occult bookshop and publishing house which published some of his work.
Page once said: ‘I feel Aleister Crowley is a misunderstood genius of the 20th century because his whole thing was liberation of the person.’

Devil worshipper: The cul-de-sac sex cult was inspired Aleister Crowley, author of The Book Of The Law


Aleister Crowley abandoned his wife and daughter for life in his cult, and Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page, right, was said to be influenced by his ideas
SLEEPY TOWN SHOCKED BY PERVERTED SEX CULT


My God, I have not seen a bigger load of lies and mistakes concerning the life of Crowley in many years. Just look at this sentence:

"He was a bisexual heroin addict whose doctrine for life was ‘Do What Thou Wilt’, advocating sexual promiscuity and prostitution."

Wow! What a load of shit! It's no wonder you Christians are so misguided regarding basic facts. It's the crap you accept as truth.

Now speaking of weird prophets:

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-people-who-have-claimed-to-be-jesus-christ

You see how two can play this game? ;)

exu156
04-03-2012, 09:18 AM
Meanwhile, while we are busy chasing bizarre and unfounded conspiracy theories, the elephant in the room gets ignored again:

http://www.imgjoe.com/x/spiritualabu.jpg

Christian Ritual Abuse - YouTube!

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/050610-%27Shocking%27-Injuries-in-Texas-Child%27s-Exorcism-Death

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/religion/christianity/christianpedofile.shtml

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/20/national/main594278.shtml

http://news.howzit.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=159826522

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110317/NEWS/103170317

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2010/jun/23/prosecution-rests-in-punishment-phase-of-jeffs/

http://www.sltrib.com/nationworld/ci_14928387

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-6247502-504083.html

http://www.katu.com/news/51514777.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4107524.stm

saint_frankenstein
04-03-2012, 09:20 AM
My God, I have not seen a bigger load of lies and mistakes concerning the life of Crowley in many years. Just look at this sentence:

"He was a bisexual heroin addict whose doctrine for life was ‘Do What Thou Wilt’, advocating sexual promiscuity and prostitution."

Wow! What a load of shit! It's no wonder you Christians are so misguided regarding basic facts. It's the crap you accept as truth.

Now speaking of weird prophets:

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-people-who-have-claimed-to-be-jesus-christ

You see how two can play this game? ;)

Lol, no wonder I have blackyblue on ignore.

exu156
04-03-2012, 09:22 AM
Police: Couple planned to 'sacrifice' children
Saturday, November 13, 2004 Posted: 1:52 PM EST (1852 GMT)

ROCHESTER, New Hampshire (AP) -- A woman and her boyfriend are accused of plotting to sacrifice the woman's three children on a church altar.

Nicole Mancini, 29, and John Thurber, 35, were arrested at St. Mary's Church on Wednesday after workers said they heard the woman say she wanted to sacrifice the boys.

"We could tell this woman was not right," said church secretary Donna Landolfi. "She said, 'Let's go make the sacrifice."'

Mancini and Thurber were in jail Saturday on more than $25,000 bail. They were arraigned Friday on three counts each of misdemeanor child endangerment. Thurber was also charged with marijuana possession.

The children, ages 9, 7 and 2, were not harmed and were placed in state custody. Police said Thurber is the father of the youngest boy.

Police said Mancini told them that Jesus sacrificed himself for her, so she was going to sacrifice the boys to free her soul.

"Eighteen years I've been doing this and I've never come across anything like it," police Lt. Paul Callaghan said.

Mancini's attorney, Kimberly Shoen, said her client meant the children no harm.

"They were never tied to the altar, there was no blood, there were no constraints for sacrificial use," she said.

Linda Slamon, Thurber's attorney, said Mancini had been acting "irrationally" recently and Thurber accompanied her to the church to get her help.

"If anything, he was there to protect the children and protect Miss Mancini," Slamon said.

A judge ordered Mancini to undergo a mental evaluation.

exu156
04-03-2012, 09:34 AM
Abuse as punishment
http://newsok.com/authorities-claim-pastor-used-sex-abuse-as-discipline/article/3556115

Authorities claim pastor used sexual abuse as punishment
Tommy Joe Pitts, 51, was charged Wednesday in Major County District Court with nine felony counts in connection with the sexual assault of three girls. He appeared in court Wednesday afternoon.

BY ANN KELLEY Oklahoman 0 Published: April 7, 2011

FAIRVIEW — A young girl told authorities a Fairview pastor used sexual abuse as punishment.

Tommy Joe Pitts, 51, was charged Wednesday in Major County District Court with nine felony counts in connection with the sexual assault of three girls ages 8, 9, and 12.

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The complaints include two counts of first-degree rape, four counts of lewd molestation and three counts of rape by instrumentation.

Pitts appeared briefly in court Wednesday afternoon with his attorney, Fritz McGee. His bail is set at $1 million.

His wife was in the courtroom. She called the sheriff’s department March 31 to report Pitts molested three girls and was threatening to kill himself. Pitts was arrested after he deliberately drove into the path of a tractor-trailer rig, authorities said. The vehicles did not strike each other and Pitts was not injured, authorities said.

Pitts’ wife said she became suspicious of Pitts when he insisted on spending more time alone with the girls and confronted him about the alleged abuse on March 31.

The 12-year-old girl told authorities when the girls broke a rule Pitts would give them a choice of punishment. He offered the option of getting a spanking or touching his genitals.

Investigators claim they’ve documented more than 70 instances of sexual assault against the three girls.

Pitts, an ordained minster with the Assemblies of God since 2007, was pastor at the Midway Assembly of God in Fairview.

exu156
04-03-2012, 09:42 AM
This is brilliant!

Christianity & Child Sexual Abuse
http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/pdf/Margaret%20Kennedy%201.11.03%20Christianity%20and% 20Child%20Sexual%20Abuse%20-%20Survivors%20informing%20the%20care%20of%20child ren%20following%20abuse.pdf

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 03:44 PM
This is brilliant!

Christianity & Child Sexual Abuse
http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/pdf/Margaret%20Kennedy%201.11.03%20Christianity%20and% 20Child%20Sexual%20Abuse%20-%20Survivors%20informing%20the%20care%20of%20child ren%20following%20abuse.pdf

Yes that is excellent, thank you very much Exu.

octopusrex
04-03-2012, 04:21 PM
The net is full of this shit!

It does not come up in normal searches though..i done an advanced search searching for certain words and boombaraboom, Reports of Satanic cults being found guilty of, mass murdering children, peadophilia, infiltrating churches and priesthoods, found guilty of ritualistic abuse and murder, its happening

All those cases are cases of active Satanists commiting horrific crimes and being found guilty


House of Borgia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

hurt4ever1
04-03-2012, 04:22 PM
House of Borgia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgia)

How, how ironic that their symbol is the bull.

rhydra
04-03-2012, 07:23 PM
One thing that typifies Christianity is that they try to cover up things that put them in a bad light, when they can do that no longer they blame someone else for it. The Christian faith is terribly weak, it cannot withstand the slightest criticism, they cannot face up to the fact that their faith is groundless and without foundation.

There is a priest that shags kids? Hell what do we do> Reform or bad ways? No! Blame someone else, as soon as a Christian becomes embarrassing, damaging of they go, they get relabelled as part of the people that they feel most threatened by. it's like someone catching plague and throwing them over the walls of the enemy camp. Christianity is one of the most insidious and malicious religions that has ever disgraced this planet. I feel dirty even thinking about those apologists who blame others for their own faults.

rapunzel
04-03-2012, 08:04 PM
In a number of these cases the abusers quote the same Bible verse as do the Christian Evangelists when they are criticised:

"Touch not the Lord's Anointed".

It is quoted completely out of context but most Christians aren't very familiar with the Bible so they assume that God has said told that Christian ministers must not be challenged or criticised in any way. This leaves people completely in the abusers power.

octopusrex
04-03-2012, 08:35 PM
How, how ironic that their symbol is the bull.

I consider it possible that the punishment for eating haburgers in this planet, is to be born human in the planet of the minotaurs.

luciferhorus
05-03-2012, 12:44 PM
My God, I have not seen a bigger load of lies and mistakes concerning the life of Crowley in many years. Just look at this sentence:

"He was a bisexual heroin addict whose doctrine for life was ‘Do What Thou Wilt’, advocating sexual promiscuity and prostitution."

Wow! What a load of shit!

Well I have been a drug fiend throughout my life; I am openly bisexual, I advocate sexual promiscuity and prostitution and I simply try to live according to my true will (mostly in the erotic sense).

Yes Crowley advocated all of these things; as do I, although I would advise extreme caution with the use of opiates.

Satan worshipping peadophiles

Utter nonsense. The gods of the Bible and the Koran hardly forbid the sexual slavery (forced marriage) of children. On the contrary these two diabolical gods were derived from the imagination of religious fanatics who lived in an age of enforced child marriage slavery and sex slavery and who promoted such evils. I am quite sure that the vast majority of Thelemites and modern Satanists would consider the enforced rape of children to be a violation of Thelemic Law; on the other they would probably mostly approve of the radicalisation of children's sex education and the promotion of sexual freedom; which is entirely contrary to the laws of the gods of the Bible and the Koran; both of whom simply want enforced sex slaves.

Lux

grakkus
05-03-2012, 03:55 PM
Well I have been a drug fiend throughout my life; I am openly bisexual, I advocate sexual promiscuity and prostitution and I simply try to live according to my true will (mostly in the erotic sense).

Yes Crowley advocated all of these things; as do I, although I would advise extreme caution with the use of opiates.



Utter nonsense. The gods of the Bible and the Koran hardly forbid the sexual slavery (forced marriage) of children. On the contrary these two diabolical gods were derived from the imagination of religious fanatics who lived in an age of enforced child marriage slavery and sex slavery and who promoted such evils. I am quite sure that the vast majority of Thelemites and modern Satanists would consider the enforced rape of children to be a violation of Thelemic Law; on the other they would probably mostly approve of the radicalisation of children's sex education and the promotion of sexual freedom; which is entirely contrary to the laws of the gods of the Bible and the Koran; both of whom simply want enforced sex slaves.

Lux

Yuck.
You want kids to have the sexual freedom to fuck smack-heads? At least you are honest about what Crowley advocated. Trouble is, when you are honest about this stuff you appal people who aren't warped fuck-ups.

blackyblue
05-03-2012, 04:58 PM
Well I have been a drug fiend throughout my life; I am openly bisexual, I advocate sexual promiscuity and prostitution and I simply try to live according to my true will (mostly in the erotic sense).

Yes Crowley advocated all of these things; as do I, although I would advise extreme caution with the use of opiates.



Utter nonsense. The gods of the Bible and the Koran hardly forbid the sexual slavery (forced marriage) of children. On the contrary these two diabolical gods were derived from the imagination of religious fanatics who lived in an age of enforced child marriage slavery and sex slavery and who promoted such evils. I am quite sure that the vast majority of Thelemites and modern Satanists would consider the enforced rape of children to be a violation of Thelemic Law; on the other they would probably mostly approve of the radicalisation of children's sex education and the promotion of sexual freedom; which is entirely contrary to the laws of the gods of the Bible and the Koran; both of whom simply want enforced sex slaves.

Lux

I dont quite know what to make of this Lucifer!

On one hand you want to kill the church for the use and abuse of children, on the other you promote the use of drugs and child sex as long as the child is educated, consenting and enjoying the experience as opposed to being forced.
Also many of the abuse cases where from consenting children, not all peadophile acts are 'forced' in the sense of the word, however under the law of the land and not the law of religion it makes no difference whether it was forced or not. If you have sex with a consenting child, then you have used and abused the childs freedom of choice and you are a sexual offender on the sex offenders register, and possibly in prison depending upon how young the child and how exploited the act was....

Just because Alestier Crowley and AntonLaVey where peadophile preachers and culture shock artists does not mean his followers have to act the same




It also seems now that the reasons that peadophile priests and peadophile ministers have been highlighted above all other peadophiles including Crowley worshipping Satanic peadophiles is not to do with care for the child victims, as i suspected, but to do with the fact that those people want to push people of religious faiths into a corner and lighten up on the issues surrounding child abuse..However this will never happen, anyone that is using children whether the child is educated and acknowledging or not, should be prosicuted whether he is a christian, a muslim, a satanist or non religious and should be highlighted the same..

Is this also why primary schools are now wanting to replace lego with sex education for five year olds?
Is it a totalitarian tiptoe towards the first court case on record where a peadophile walks free or gets a chsarge reduced from child abuse and sexual assault to sex with a minor, after arguing that he has not been guilty of a crime due to the fact that children are educated in sex education and know what they are doing?

cwl3
06-03-2012, 01:23 AM
I dont quite know what to make of this Lucifer!

On one hand you want to kill the church for the use and abuse of children, on the other you promote the use of drugs and child sex as long as the child is educated, consenting and enjoying the experience as opposed to being forced.
Also many of the abuse cases where from consenting children, not all peadophile acts are 'forced' in the sense of the word, however under the law of the land and not the law of religion it makes no difference whether it was forced or not. If you have sex with a consenting child, then you have used and abused the childs freedom of choice and you are a sexual offender on the sex offenders register, and possibly in prison depending upon how young the child and how exploited the act was....

Just because Alestier Crowley and AntonLaVey where peadophile preachers and culture shock artists does not mean his followers have to act the same




It also seems now that the reasons that peadophile priests and peadophile ministers have been highlighted above all other peadophiles including Crowley worshipping Satanic peadophiles is not to do with care for the child victims, as i suspected, but to do with the fact that those people want to push people of religious faiths into a corner and lighten up on the issues surrounding child abuse..However this will never happen, anyone that is using children whether the child is educated and acknowledging or not, should be prosicuted whether he is a christian, a muslim, a satanist or non religious and should be highlighted the same..

Is this also why primary schools are now wanting to replace lego with sex education for five year olds?
Is it a totalitarian tiptoe towards the first court case on record where a peadophile walks free or gets a chsarge reduced from child abuse and sexual assault to sex with a minor, after arguing that he has not been guilty of a crime due to the fact that children are educated in sex education and know what they are doing?

Satan is the wolf in sheeps clothing, that's the oldest lesson in the book.

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 01:25 AM
Satan is the wolf in sheeps clothing, that's the oldest lesson in the book.

The Ku Klux Klan, White power, White Knights, Aryan nation, Skin heads and any other group who follow after the ideas of Hitler, are demon possessed!!!!

There is no where in the bible that states that Jew's, blacks or any other minority are inferior to the white race. In fact if one looks at who Moses married they would eat there words. Moses married an Ethiopian woman (a black women). These disciples of Satan try to hide behind the Holy Bible and make a mockery of it. In fact, They do not know what they believe. Most who are members do not even believe in God or in the least, not the God of the bible. By their own words they say one must believe in God and the bible, yet there are splinter groups that are into Satanism and Witchcraft. There is a connection to the Masons as many are members of both groups. They claim they are standing for a white America while all the while showing the lost that it is ok to hate someone. No where does the bible condone hatred.

Adolph Hitler is sort of a hero to these fools. Most every page you visit has some reference to him and his beliefs. Hitler was fascinated with the occult. He was a drug addict who used them to achieve a higher consciousness into the spirit world. He was a follower of Aleister Crowley, ( click here for info on Crowley) who is the father of today's Satanism. Hitler claimed to be a Christian just as these hate mongers do.

The name Ku Klux Klan comes from the Greek word kuklos, meaning circle, because in it is contained some of the unique characteristics of the White (or Aryan) race. The wheel is certainly the best symbol of creativity; hence the creativity of the White race, and the circle is the oldest symbol of unity. Kuklos thought about in this context simply means White Racial Brotherhood. Ku Klux was simply taken from the word kuklos and Klan was added.

The above is what the pagans believe in the meaning of the circle. Its Witchcraft, an abomination according to the bible, which they claim to know and quote!!!

The Klan robe and hood is not used by Klansmen for the purpose of wrongdoing. In many old Christian rituals, as illustrated by the carrying of the Pastas in Spain, the hood was worn as a symbol of humility; of anonymity in doing good works. This was the conception of the hood when the Klan was ably led by General Nathan Bedford Forrest, and this is its true meaning for Klan members - selfless dedication to our God, our nation, our race, our Klan Brothers and Sisters and our Klan Movement. The Klan robe and hood is used for ritual such as is done by Masons, Odd Fellows, college fraternities and even Mormons.

Ahh, here we go. By there own words they follow Catholicism. The worship of idols and the whore religion of revelation. They associate themselves with the Masons and Mormons, cults that deny Jesus Christ as savior!!!!

Why is the KKK and the others on this web site?? They are not Christian, they are demon possessed and follow Satan's objective . They want to eradicate the Jew's and all other non white people. Satan is in their hearts and they will pay one day as they stand before Holy God.

http://www.exposingsatanism.org/kkk.htm

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 01:26 AM
As expected, additional topics which should have been included in my theory of Satanism have occurred to me. The most significant of these is that organized Satanism constitutes an unseen authoritarian society within society, probably ultimately led by black magicians or pod people. [1] The designation "Invisible Empire" is normally associated with the KKK, but the fact is that the KKK is a division of organized Satanism, which is the actual Invisible Empire. It's the ultimate "black" operation because it will never be officially acknowledged by the arbiters of our consensus reality, and its true purpose is hidden from even its own members.

Although Satanism is clearly authoritarian, I have no way of unraveling its command structure, which would probably be one of its major secrets. I suspect that the directorate, since approximately 1879, has consisted of Spirits of Darkness, a.k.a. the Dragon (the latest batch of which were cast down into Earth's etheric realm about ten years before Satanism's mass recruitment phase took off), and that its puppets exert their influence at various levels and in various locations. Beyond that, I would just be wasting everyone's time.

Obviously, Satanism existed long before 1879, but on a much smaller scale. (For example, the Salem Witch Trials were actually RUN by Satanists, and those charged with "witchcraft" were their VICTIMS. This was recognized to some extent soon after the "trials" and executions.) Before the Spirits of Darkness were cast down to Earth, they wouldn't have been in the picture, but now that they have been, it seems to me that they would be doing everything they can to advance the cause of Satanism.

Another aspect of Satanism is that it is fostered by "people above suspicion." I previously mentioned that Satanism's "mother"-organization is the Cult of Isis, which originated as the Babylonian priesthood of Ishtar, a.k.a. the Whore of Babylon, one of the Anunnaki "ET gods" revealed by the works of the late Zecharia Sitchin. This very cult has come down intact through the ages and lies at the core of the "respectable" British-led global financial oligarchy, which "enables" organized Satanism through its control over world governments. An excellent example of this is how it arranges entire "wars," costing hundreds of billions of dollars per year, which are actually partly intended as orgies of advanced SRA, with few if any of the perpetrators held accountable.

In the case of the "war on terror," the vast majority of American soldiers are victims of SRA, not perpetrators. A good example is how quite a few soldiers have been killed by IEDs shortly before they were scheduled to return to their families, after a long tour of duty. The strategy of using IEDs is patently Satanic, not Islamic, and you can safely bet that few if any Satanists have fallen victim to IEDs. It might help to put "the Taliban" into perspective to recall that a journalist, who reported that the British military had been caught helicoptering groups of "Taliban" around Afghanistan, was killed shortly thereafter, as reported here.

There are many obvious signs of the Isis cult's influence over Satanism (such as the Egyptian flavor to Crowley's occultish BS). In ancient times, temples to Isis featured "sacred prostitutes" in imitation of Ishtar/Isis, the Whore of Babylon. (Ishtar was and perhaps still is a physical being, who was known for her beauty, promiscuity, and her love of traveling the world in her "sky chamber" or "shem.") One of the Isis cult's practices is for male members to cross-dress as temple prostitutes. The Franklin Cover-Up by John DeCamp, which exposed what appears to have been a network of Hellfire clubs and child sex trafficking for powerful pedophiles, includes a photo of members of the Ak-Sar-Ben Club, a powerful group which protected those whom DeCamp exposed, doing just that: cross-dressing as Isis-cult temple prostitutes. (Google "Ak-Sar-Ben Club," select Images, and you'll see this photo.)

I understand that this child sex-trafficking network included the use of intelligence-agency flights between the US and Europe. This is yet another indication that our laws don't apply to these supermen, who consider themselves superior by virtue of their amorality and their power, which is derived from having members in just about every position worth controlling. Their Thought Police at the NSA have the capability to monitor every keystroke we type into our computers, by secretly copying them to a secret area on the hard drive, and periodically uploading this data to their servers.

Connections between the KKK and Satanism

Albert Pike was considered by many to be a great leader of the Scottish Rite, but the truth about him is less flattering. His Morals and Dogma, the "Bible" of the Scottish Rite, is what I would call "Ancient Wisdom BS." Pike was the actual founder of the KKK, and he was a Satanist. He would hold drunken orgies which lasted for days in the woods, i.e. a Hell-fire Club in a forest. [4]

The KKK's brutality was a form of advanced SRA, disguised as only an effort to keep African-Americans "in their place" in a de facto master/slave relationship. Note that slavery, an institution generally associated with the oligarchy down through the ages [2], provided many opportunities for SRA, and that the KKK's SRA was not just an attempt to preserve the master/slave society (but without the overt slavery), but also as a substitute for the SRA which was lost with the emancipation of slaves.

The KKK's "mystical" trappings such as the ranks of "wizard" and "dragon" were intended to give it an aura of a mystical knighthood devoted to preserving White Power. [3] The very name "KKK" and the KKK's symbol can also be construed as hints of Satanism. K is the 11th letter of the alphabet, and 11 is the number of black magic, which Satanism pretends to be. The drop of blood in the center of the KKK's symbol is just coincidentally shaped like a 6, which is one of Satanism's favorite numbers, perhaps because like a 9 it implies a CCW rotation similar to the Swastika's implied rotation. Such so-called "reverse Sun" symbols actually represent the anti-Christ, a.k.a. the Devil.

Highly-coordinated group activities

Another aspect of Satanism worth mentioning is that much its activity within civilized society (as opposed to a "war" zone) takes place in the form of highly organized group functions such as "flash mobs," sometimes disguised to appear as a series of innocuous, bothersome, and freakish apparent coincidences. This organizational ability reflects the "Borg" or "group soul" nature of Satanism.

Notes

Rev B: Heavily reorganized and edited. My apologies to anyone who tried to read it previously, but I had been subjected to some rather intense sleep deprivation in the days leading up to its initial publication. Publishing something also gives me some distance from it, so I can see it more objectively.

[1] I've neglected to mention a mode of possession which I suspect is more likely to be found in the upper echelons of Satanism, namely a persistent state of possession by the Spirits of Darkness, which are angels who have defected to the dark side, who were cast down to Earth's etheric realm about a decade before Satanism's mass-recruitment drive began (indicating that the KKK's initial phase slightly preceded the mass-recruitment phase, at a time when the Spirits of Darkness were waging a battle to prevent us from gaining access to a certain installment of formerly occult information which the progressive hierarchy had decided we were ready to receive), and who have a superhuman capacity for BS, as indicated by what they dictated to Nietzsche. It seems to me that, since this is an option, Satan would use it instead of relying on humans. Whether they take possession of a particular person seems to be determined by whether they find them useful, and how strongly the person can (and wants to) resist their impulses. Rudolf Steiner indicated that this state of possession can be quite long-term, but as far as I know, he didn't go into detail on its characteristics. Because they are higher-level beings than the others which take possession on a long-term basis, it seems to me that people possessed in this manner would be more likely to be found in higher-level positions.

[2] In ancient times, a certain Atlantean sub-race known as the Akkadian had an intellectual edge over the rest of mankind. I surmise that this sub-race was chosen to serve as the priesthood of the Anunnaki to rule mankind, and that it has tried to preserve this privileged status despite the loss of its intellectual edge as mankind in general attained higher states of consciousness. I went over this in some detail in Speculations on the Origin of the Oligarchy.

[3] The "White Power" mantra of the KKK just happens to convert to 65 and 77, or 11 and 7x11 - also note that K is the 11th letter of the alphabet.

[4] "Albert Pike is one of the most physically and morally repulsive individuals in American history. Horribly obese-easily 300lbs. or more - Pike was known in his adopted state of Arkansas as a practitioner of Satanism. His reported sexual proclivities included sitting astride a phallic throne in the woods, accompanied by a gang of prostitutes. He would bring to his revels one or more wagon-loads of food and liquor, most of which he would consume over a period of perhaps 48 hours, until he passed into a stupor." (Anton Chaitkin, Treason in America, 234-35)

http://fakeapoc.blogspot.com/2011/07/kkk-satanists-in-sheets.html

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 01:27 AM
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blackyblue
06-03-2012, 01:31 AM
Any Christians or Jews that take part in this should be banished as they are Templar worshippors and SATANISTS!














The Satanic Alliance of Christians and Jews

By Rachel Pendergraft

Throughout America and in other white nations, Christians and Jews are steadily forming alliances. A quick internet search will show conferences, meetings, and dialogue between Jews and Christians.

Preachers used to point out to their congregations that America was built on Christian principles. Now, without hesitation they tell their flock that America was built on Judeo-Christian ideals.

Without thought Christian leaders - liberal, mainstream, and fundamentalists - talk of the Judeo-Christian foundation of America and encourages the following of Judeo - Christian values and morals.

To use the term Judeo/Christian is much like saying clean filth. Filth is not clean and Judaism is not Christian

Just recently the majority of the world mourned the death of the Pope. His biggest accomplishment was noted to be his bringing together of Jews and Christians. Yet many Popes in ancient times warned against the teachings of the Jews.

Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, John Hague, Jack Van Empe and dozens more like them have built their mega sized ministries by promoting Israel as a political state and the Jews as a chosen race. Thousands of local church leaders are following this example. They are the Pharisees of today

A marketing plan by TouchPoint Solutions, a Colorado Springs consulting agency hired by Israel's Ministry of Tourism, describes how to appeal to U.S. evangelicals.

Highlights include:

Persuading the top 30 evangelical Zionists, through face-to-face meetings, to visit and promote Israel. Those named in a separate TouchPoint document, "Who are the Christian Zionists?" include religious broadcaster Jerry Falwell, Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson, Texas pastor John Hagee, best-selling author Tim LaHaye

Sending a letter to the 100,000 largest evangelical churches and a postcard to 350,000 others, directing them to Israel's tourism Web site, GoIsrael.com.

Conducting "Israel Solidarity Days" in 100 cities. Public prayer ceremonies will focus on Israel and its biblical importance. Privately, local evangelical leaders -- whether pastors, business people or athletes -- will be urged to make "solidarity trips" to Israel. Some will have their expenses paid by Israel.

"The idea is to sell the sellers," TouchPoint President Butch Maltby said, adding that the multimillion dollar marketing plan has been agreed upon in principle, with certain aspects dependent on funding by the Knesset, the Israeli parliament. Maltby described tourism as more than an economic matter. "It's also a political tool. Every person that comes to Israel becomes an ambassador to Israel. Every tourist becomes a public relations person."

At a recent meeting at the Israeli embassy in Washington - 18 national evangelical leaders received the book "Why Christians Should Support Israel," by Richard Booker, a Texas-based Christian minister.

The embassy's officer for inter-religious affairs, led a discussion of how Christian college students could lead pro-Israel events on campus and says Israel is reaching out more than ever in the United States. She said, "There's a new realization that we can activate the Christian grass roots,"

The Pharisees Jesus denounced have not gone away. Some are Christian Pharisees and some are Jewish.

The noun "Pharisee" occurs, according to Strongs' Concordance, 78 times in the New Testament, much more frequently than "Satan." Yet usage of the word has been largely eliminated from teaching in many Bibles studies, the pulpits of America's churches, professing Christian media and even seminaries.

WEBSTER DEFINES PHARISEE: "One of the members of a school or party among the ancient Jews noted for the strict formal observance of the rites and validity of traditions of the elders." Further on: "Pharisee interpretation provided the standard of observation and belief for the great majority of the Jews from the 1st Century A.D." Pharisaic: "Hypocritical, self righteous and censorious of others" -- Webster's New International Dictionary of the English Language, 2nd Edition, 1950.

Webster's definition is an accurate one. Pharisees were in conflict with Jesus whenever they met.

Followers of Christ confronted the Pharisees repeatedly. The followers of the "traditions of the elders" were Jewish and the traditions themselves were perversions of God’s law that came about during the days of mingling during the Bablyon captivity.

These traditions are now known as the "Talmud." Pharisaism is no longer exclusively Jewish, as it once may have been.

Many patriots who are called haters and anti-Semites will point out the enormous Jewish control of America's political parties, news media and the banking system. However, so-called Christian leaders will say these people are being intolerant of God’s people. While the Bible firmly tells us that the only way to the Father is through Christ - the false preaches of today would have us believe that the only way to God is through the Jews.

Bernard Lazare, Jewish/Marxist writer (and author of the Communist song Internationale) in his book "Anti-Semitism" on page 350 wrote in 1894 "The Jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he destroys Catholic or Protestant faiths, he provokes indifference but he imposes his idea of the world, of morals and of life upon those whose faith he ruins. He works at his age old task, the annihilation of the religion of Christ!"

The American Jewish Committee, an arm of the ADL put out a policy paper in the 50’s called FACTS

Here are a few statements:

“There is a pressing need for intensive work with textbook and study materials utilized in public schools and colleges of this country.”

They are upset because"many of the accounts of the crucifixion in world histories are too general to be fully accurate, and some provide a basis for the development of prejudice against the Jews”

An example of this can be seen in the hysteria that resulted when the movie The Passion produced by Mel Gibson was released. Jews around the world threw up their arms and cried that the movie would foster a new round of defamation, hatred, and anti-Semitism. Yet, the movie clearly was not anti-Jewish in any form. It did accusatively portray the Jewish hand in the murder of Christ. Yet, it was pretty benign. The Romans were made out to be the real villains. This only goes to show how hyper-sensitive the Jews are. A mere mention of Jews can get one labeled a hater and bigot.

Continuing statements by the AJC in FACTS:

“Under the auspices of Drew Theological Seminary, we have conducted an exhaustive study of religious textbooks currently used in Protestant schools. Errors, misstatements and misconceptions of the historic role of the Jews in the earliest days of Christianity have been and will continue to be tabulated and brought to the attention of Protestant educators and textbook publishers. As a result of new insights gained through these efforts, there has been steady and significant progress in the elimination of such material”.

And another:

“In extensive educational campaigns, such as those conducted in behalf of the Genocide convention, civil rights, etc., these activities multiply: up to date fact sheets are continuously prepared for editors, newscasters, organization leaders, etc. favorable opinions of influential citizens are publicized, cooperating organizations are contacted and frequently serviced with specially prepared materials, radio programs are arranged. We work with and through the major national organizations and special interest groups in which millions of Americans are active; labor unions, veterans organizations, youth groups, church groups, and education associations.”

The very fact that the term Judeo/Christian is in popular use today is evidence that Christianity has indeed become intertwined with Judaism. The Christianity taught in the seminaries and as a result the churches can no longer be accurately called Christianity. And yet 99% of those who call them selves born-again Christians see nothing wrong with interfaith conferences of Jews and Christians and now believe that Judaism and Christianity share the same goals and beliefs.

The followers of today’s post Christian faith declare they are believers of Jesus Christ. But what kind of Jesus do they believe in. Most misinterpret the scripture John 3:15"That whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life“. The Jews believe in Jesus - that is they believe in the existence of a man named Jesus who is their adversary. But to have a belief in Jesus and to believe upon Jesus means to stand for the same principles he stood for. Very few Christians today believe or stand for the principles that Christ stood for.

Are those who"believe” in Jesus following the teachings of Christ or the teachings of the Jews.



Do the Jews follow the laws of Moses? The law - that Christ came to fulfill?

According to the Glossary of the 1952-1961 printing of the Soncino Talmud - the Torah is the oral law of the Jews - not to be confused with the written law of Moses

Often, when a patriot mentions to an acquaintance that the Talmud is the Jewish Holy book - they are often times sure you are wrong - maybe in ancient times - but not in this new enlightened age - they think.

Rabbi Michael Rodkinson says that,"the Talmud is one of the wonders of the world … It still dominates the minds of a whole people, who venerate its contents as divine truth”

The late Dr. Joseph H. Hertz - the Chief Rabbi of the British Empire had this to say about the Talmud:

Religion in the Talmud attempts to penetrate the whole of human life with the sense of law and right. Nothing human is in its eyes mean or trivial; everything is regulated and sanctified by religion. Religious precept and duty accompany man from his earliest years to the grave and beyond it. They guide his desires and actions at every moment. Food and sleep, civic duty and family life — all are under discipline of the Torah, a discipline accepted freely and joyfully. While every religion attempts such regulation, the Talmudic system represents this striving of the religious idea in its perfection. 'In our eyes,' says Arsène Darmsteter, 'this is its greatest title to the respect and consideration of thinkers. In Judaism we have thus the complete, and consequently the most perfect, expression of the religious idea.”

Now let us turn to Rabbi Dr. Jacob Neusner, a contemporary and prolific writer on Judaism:

“The Bavli [Babylonian Talmud] has formed the definitive statement of Judaism from the time of its closure to the present day. The excellence of its composition, the mastery and authority of those who everywhere studied it and advocated its law, the sharpness of its exegesis and discussion, the harmonious and proportional presentation of all details, these virtues of taste and intellect may well have secured for the document is paramount position … The Bavli served from its closure as an encyclopedia of knowledge and as a summation of the theology and law of Judaism.”

The late great American Protestant writer Elizabeth Kirkpatrick Dilling, author of The Plot Against Christianity among other books makes this point about the Talmud:



Pictured far right is Elizabeth Dilling. She passed away in 1967. She was a nationally known author, speaker, and organizer. She was considered an expert on Communism and Judaism.

“The Babylonian Talmud is the law for so-called Judaism. However, its pornographic, anti-Gentile and anti-Christian doctrines have often caused hostility against it. … The Bible under Talmudic Judaism is considered to be a collection of simple tales fit only for fools, women and children. The Talmud "sages" thus must find new meanings in it by letter and number tricks which reverse the plain meaning and create out of it the permission to do otherwise forbidden crimes and misdeeds. The words of the Bible are continually misused and misquoted for purposes of blasphemy and reversal. Stealing for themselves the title of "Israelites," the Talmud "sages" teach that "God made a covenant with Israel only for the sake of that which was transmitted orally." And the Biblical "basis" of this is given as Exodus 34:27. But that verse states, instead: "And the Lord said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel" — the opposite! The Talmudic reversal of Moses' written words are said to have been transmitted "orally," and through Moses himself — believe it”

The Talmud is essentially the legal ramblings of Jews - who do not follow the Laws of God as given to Moses - but rather discuss - in usually obscene and pornographic detail what they think the laws mean. Their decisions then becomes"The LAW”

Rabbi Dr. Hertz says of the Talmud:

“The knowledge of the contents of that revelation, they [the scribes] held, was to be found in the first Instance in the Written Text of the Pentateuch; but the revelation, the real Torah, was the meaning of that Written Text, the Divine thought therein disclosed, as unfolded in ever greater richness of detail by successive generations of devoted teachers”

In Judaism, divine revelation is not dependent on messiahs, prophets, or saints, as in some other religions; for the Jews, divine revelation comes about through rabbis passing down the teachings from one generation to the next.

Rabbi Reinsaltz says:

“Talmudic scholarship is to a certain extent self-contradictory, a type of "sacred-intellectualism." It places unparalleled emphasis on the theoretical, analytical, and critical aspects of human thought. No individual can study the Talmud without being or becoming an eternal skeptic; the form of study itself is based on a series of questions, and the student himself is expected to submit his own questions and voice his own doubts and problems … The questioning, searching, and skeptical man is not excluded from the circle of believers; he becomes, rather, the spokesman of the central work of the Jewish religion, the prime source daily conduct“.

Jewish Law becomes God’s Law!

When Jews speak of God’s laws and stand up in the public forum and speak so righteously of God’s laws - Christians must understand what that really means. They are not referring to the laws God gave Moses.

The Laws they make up become known as God’s laws!

Rabbi Dr. Isidore Epstein, editor of the Soncino Talmud translated in England in 1935, states:

“the Talmudic legal system is tantamount to the very law of God. The sequence is clear: Once the laws are tested and pass the test, they become the law of God: Thus the object of the legal system was not to preserve a particular dynasty or a certain form of government, but to establish social righteousness, and to maintain thereby a constant, close, inseparable connection between ethics and law, both flowing from the same Divine source … All laws, regulations and enactments had authority only in so far as they were able to stand the ethical test of the Torah. Once they passed this test, they were no longer regarded as man-made, but became identified with the very law of God.”



Jewish Influence

Still - Professed Christians will say,"I’m a tolerant Christian. If the Jews want to believe the Talmud - and even if they are Pharisees - it has no effect on me.

The Jewish influence is having a direct influence on society by the adoption of Humanism and Humanistic practices in the legislative, judicial, and executive branches of government.



Supreme Court Considers Talmudic Law

In December 1999, the United States Supreme Court set a precedent by accepting for consideration an amicus curiae brief in a death penalty case (Bryan v. Moore). Aside from mentioning the Eighth Amendment of the US Constitution in passing, the brief was based wholly on Talmud law. The Jewish Journal reports:

“A man who will argue before the U.S. Supreme Court next year that his planned execution in Florida's electric chair constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment" can point to a 2,000-year-old Jewish law when he pleads his case.

A friend-of-the court brief filed last week in the Supreme Court by the National Jewish Commission on Law and Public Affairs, which advocates the position of the Orthodox community, and the American Section of the International Association of Jewish Lawyers and Jurists, backs Anthony Bryan's position. In citing only Jewish law and excluding any reference to previous Supreme Court decisions, the brief is believed to mark a first for America's highest court.
Rabbi Yitzchok Adlerstein is the director of Project Next Step of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles and a professor of Jewish Law and Ethics at Loyola Law School. Rabbi Adlerstein comments upon a 1999 brief submitted to the US Supreme Court concerning the death penalty. The brief, based wholly on Talmud law, urged that certain principles of Talmud law should be adopted by the US. Interpreting the remarks Orthodox advocate Nathan Lewin, Rabbi Adlerstein writes: 'Lewin builds his case on the strength of what likely is the world's oldest continuously-practiced legal code. He holds up the performance of Florida's temperamental electric chair to the scrutiny of the Jewish Talmud, the backbone of Jewish law for the last two millennia.… Lewin's essential point is that many of the pressing moral, ethical, and legal issues that are front-burner today were already painstakingly and lovingly considered by savants of the past. Jewish law in particular surprises and delights moderns, because it not only suggests solutions, but teaches how complex moral issues can be attacked and dissected. Within its ancient legal code are deep and detailed considerations of issues like privacy, allocating medical resources, the causes of violence, (humanism) and many more. So much of the future stands to be illuminated by the minds of those who specialized in pondering deeply and subtly.



US Supreme Court Warms to the Talmud



Approximately three years after Nathan and Alyza Lewin led the Bryan v. Moore amicus curiae brief another notable event took place. A kosher dinner was held to honor the establishment of the National Institute for Judaic Law (NIJL). The dinner was attended by 200 people, including Supreme Court Justices Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Stephen Breyer, Antonin Scalia. Nathan and Alyza Lewin also attended.

The site of the dinner? The United States Supreme Court Building in Washington, DC. (The same Supreme Court that Refused to Intervene in the murder of Terry Shiavo - which in light of Jewish law makes sense - the woman or wife is considered without worth - A Jewish prayer says- 'thank god I’m not a slave, a dog or a woman’ and has no value in life)



The Jewish Week reported the event in this manner:



“What does the Talmud have to say about legal and moral controversies in modern America? Plenty, according to the creators of the new Washington-based National Institute for Judaic Law, which opened with a lavish Supreme Court dinner last month. Rabbi Noson Gurary said that the idea for the institute came in an exchange of letters in which Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, one of the most conservative Justices, expressed his"fascination with Jewish law.”

That was an example of the Judiazation of the Judicial branch - Now for the Legislative branch:



Here is an excerpt from the 1991 Congressional declaration concerning the Noahide Laws:

Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded;
Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, `the rebbe', this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of `education and giving', the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as `Education Day, U.S.A.'. — US Congress, HR 104 Public Law 102-14

WHITE HOUSE RECEPTION (Executive Branch)


Reported in Haaretz [Israeli newspaper], March 26, 2002, as quoted by The Jewish Tribal Review

“U.S. President George W. Bush hosted a delegation of 10 leading rabbis and officials from the Lubavitch Hasidic movement at the White House yesterday. The 90-minute meeting took place in the framework of events organized by the movement to mark the 100th birthday of the late Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson . . . Bush added his signature to a document declaring the late Rebbe's birthday 'The day of education and charity.' [Avraham] Rabbi Shem-Tov thanked the president for his support of Israel and presented him with a Passover Haggadah.”

Noahide laws are said to be seven verbal laws given by Noah to his sons - all non Jews are bound to obey them and of course their rambling conclusions.



The Jewish Laws - laws of the Pharisees and the Noahide laws - all compiled in the Talmud have received recognition by the President, the Supreme court and Congress!

How are non Jews to be treated under these laws? And what dismantling do the Jews wish to do to our long standing rule of law based upon Christianity and the laws given to our Israelite ancestors - to which modern Jews have no relation?

Death Penalty for Celebrating Christmas?

This past Christmas season the steady campaign against Christmas was without end. Corporations were telling their employees that they couldn’t wish anyone a Merry Christmas. School children were no longer allowed to sing Christmas carols in holiday pageants. Nativity scenes were taken down in cities across America. Lawsuits were filed by Jewish led groups such as the ADL, the JDL, and the ACLU to stop the celebration of Christmas in any public arena. The Jews simply do not want any reminder of Jesus and as commercialized as Christmas has become it still remains a day - whether the accurate date of Christ’s birth or not - to celebrate the coming of the redeemer. Jewish capitalists love the money made during the season, but hate the reason for the season.

One Jewish website offered leaflets to be purchased at 15 cents each for Jews to distribute among the Jewish community. The title of the leaflet was,"An end to Christmas and Off with their Heads!”

Why? You may ask would they even suggest the death for those celebrating Christmas? Because, according to the Jews, Christians are idol worshippers. The website went on further to explain why the Torah obligates all Jews in this campaign. And under that exact statement. They tell fellow Jews:

"...according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are idol worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos 37:198)

A gentile...is liable for the death penalty...if he has invented a religious holiday for himself (Rambam Mishne Torah—Hilchos Melachim 10:9)



Christianity is Heresy According to Jews



In Judaism for Everyone published in 2002, Rabbi Boteach begins by stating:"This book is written in the belief that the next thousand years will be a Jewish millennium. For the first time in its long and trying history, the world's oldest monotheistic faith is going mainstream.”

On page 401 of Judaism for Everyone Rabbi Boteach says that Jews condemn Christianity as the Ultimate Heresy.

“Certain beliefs have been deeply ingrained engrained into the Jewish psyche for so many thousands of years, that even the most secular and disinterested of Jews accept them as axiomatic. Foremost among these is the simple belief that no man could ever be God.”

For Jews the belief that God can be human is the ultimate heresy. The belief that God could have been born of a human womb, or could once have walked the earth, is so foreign to Judaism that it is rejected even by the most assimilated Jews. Christianity, however, sees in Jesus the incarnation and embodiment of the son of God.

He continues his attacks upon Jesus and quotes from the Talmud

1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

2) He was sexually immoral, had sex with his donkey, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh — which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

4) Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a prostitute and whore.

Rabbi Boteach says,"The false, rebellious message of Jesus has been thoroughly rejected by the vast majority of the Jewish people, as G-d commanded. Unfortunately, however, this same message has brought a terrible darkness upon the world; today, over 1.5 billion gentiles believe in Jesus. These lost souls mistakenly think they have found salvation in Jesus; tragically, they are in for a rude awakening. Truth and eternal life are found directly from G-d, through performing His Law.” ( their filthy law)

'The secular governments construct and maintain many public works for the general welfare, ranging from bridges and highways to court systems. Just as Jewish individuals can derive benefit from bridges and other public works of the secular governments, so too should the Jewish community as a whole make fair use of the secular justice systems in order to maintain and enforce Jewish laws and principles.”

Now we can also understand why, in 1964, the Reeb Shneerson so praised by Bush and Congress (Reeb: the term Jews intimately call their Rabbi’s) wrote that intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles was "spiritual cremation" for Jews, while at the same time organized Jewry was urging forced integration between Gentiles of different races.

He said,"One race/religion will be permitted to survive, and that is the race/religion of the Jews. All Gentiles must lose their sense of belonging to a distinct race, owning a distinct culture, owning a distinct history, and practicing a distinct religion. The Gentiles must be homogenized” made into one race.

He continued:

“In simple terms, we are at war. It is not a struggle merely for power, wealth, or some other material advantage; it is a titanic clash over the future of world civilization. The world must now choose, for all time, between the eternal holiness of the Messianic kingdom—for which Jews have tirelessly worked for thousands of years—and the utter nihilism of the darkest evil ever to threaten the planet. This war has already spread into every nation, every social institution, every human activity. It has thus become a world war in the ultimate sense.

“Upon seizing the reins of government, the new leaders will move quickly to implement a full agenda of reform. Jewish courts (the batei dini of the rabbis) will be granted full legal sovereignty over Jewish citizens within each country, who will no longer be subject to the authority of gentile courts. The pre-existing judges and courts will replace the existing court system of each country, and the legal code will be drastically rewritten to conform to halacha .”(Jewish law)

Our Duty as Christians

We must remember the words of Paul"For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake“. Titus 1: 10-11

Then Paul told Titus to warn the Cretians in verses 13-16"Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; not giving heed to Jewish fables, and comandments of men, that turn from the truth. Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure: but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.”

Scripture warns us against forming alliances with unbelievers of all kinds"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of man, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” (Collosians. 2:8)

While we know that final victory is in the hands of the Lord, there are actions we must take: Because darkness cannot exit where light prevails. We must send these messages to our brothers and sisters because we are promised that His word will not return void - they will have the effect that is intended - in his time table not ours.

Our message is not to scare to a point of paralysis and fear - for fear of the Lord is the only fear we should have. Our message to send and the action that we likewise must take is stated in II Cor. 6:14-17"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? Wherefore (is the message we must act out and send to others which is a warning and of course a fulfillment of our responsibility as latter day watchmen) Come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord”.








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06-03-2012, 01:32 AM
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exu156
06-03-2012, 02:33 AM
There is no where in the bible that states that Jew's, blacks or any other minority are inferior to the white race. In fact if one looks at who Moses married they would eat there words. Moses married an Ethiopian woman (a black women).

I am not sure this is right.

http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/mosesmarry.html

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 02:37 AM
Sometimes Satanic imagery and Satanic talk of harsh social justice reminds people of the Fascist doctrine of the Nazis, complete with pseudo-science, anger, and hard edged red-and-black emblems. So what is the relationship between Satanism and Fascism?

Fascism and Satanism In Agreement
Aesthetics, Imagery and Style
Harshness
Strength Through Joy
Disagreements
Social Stratification: Meritocracy is Good, Racism is Stupid
Satanism is Liberal: Pro-Individual, Pro-Sexuality
Satanic Government is a Form of Democracy
Friedrich Nietzsche
Conclusions
1. Fascism and Satanism In Agreement

1.1. Aesthetics, Imagery and Style

In an interview in "Lords of Chaos" by Moynihan & Soderlind (1998) Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan, is asked "Many fear a strong connection between Satanism and some forms of Fascism. Is there any truth to this?". He replies that aspects of Fascism appeal to Satanists - "the drama, the lightning, the choreography with which they moved millions of people". Blanche Barton also replies with the same sentiment: "Aesthetics more than anything else are the common ground between Satanism and fascism. The aesthetics of National Socialism and Satanism dovetail". The themes of theatre, indulgence, shock and power are natural to both Fascists and Satanists going about the task of creating visuals.

The author Gavin Baddeley, a (ir)Reverend in the Church of Satan, writes on the widespread attraction of Nazi imagery and adds a dimension to his discussion: An additional factor behind the occasional use of Nazi-looking symbols is that they represent a horrible state of humanity:

“The SS officer, with his monocle and black leather riding boots, has been transformed into a decadent figure familiar to all popular fetish clubs - partly due to the unhealthy idea that, as the twentieth century's most infamous oppressors, Nazis make good models for the recreational sadist. Susan Sontag made a detailed study of this sinister idea in Under the Sign of Saturn, in which she writes: "Between sadomasochism and fascism there is a natural link. Fascism is theatre... as is sadomasochistic sexuality.... expert costumers and choreographers as well as performers, in a drama that is all the more exciting because it is forbidden to ordinary people.
The Nazis as an icon of erotic fascination have much to do with their sense of visual drama. As conservative American humorist P. K. O'Rourke puts it, "I've often been called a Nazi and, although it is unfair, I don't let it bother me for one simple reason. No one has ever had a fantasy about being tied to a bed and sexually ravished by someone dressed as a liberal"”
"Dissecting Marilyn Manson" by Gavin Baddeley (2000)
Link:

Satanism embraces off-putting symbols: "The Symbolism of Satanism: 2. Shock Factor" by Vexen Crabtree (2010)
1.2. Harshness

The second area of agreement is that of harsh social justice. In Satanism, it is called Lex Talionis. My page on Satanic Social Ethics and Teachings on Morality in Satanism discusses this stuff. Check out the section called "the harsh stuff". Although Fascism and Satanism may agree on some areas of social justice the agreement is largely coincidental and the underlying reasons are different. For the Nazis, the flawed science of race-based eugenics and mistaken ideas on evolution were behind their ethics on justice; but in Satanism the issue is much more to do with responsibility: People are responsible for the own actions, and consequences should not be made too indirect, or too slow, to have a real effect on offenders.

Links:

"Satanism and Elitism: The Alien Elite: 1.3. Responsibility to the Responsible." by Vexen Crabtree (2002)

"Satanism and Violence: 4.2. Paying For the Consequence of Your Actions." by Vexen Crabtree (2002)

"Satanic Social Ethics and Teachings on Morality in Satanism: 4. The Harsh Stuff." by Vexen Crabtree (2002)

1.3. Strength Through Joy

“The relationship between LaVeyan Satanism and fascism is a complicated one. In his only reference to Nazism in The Satanic Bible, LaVey says: 'From every set of principles (be it religious, political or philosophical), some good can be extracted. Amidst the madness of the Hitlerian concept, one point stands out as a shining example of this - "strength through joy!" [...] This is certainly a pragmatic attitude to that traumatic episode of history, but not a ringing endorsement.”
"Lucifer Rising" by Gavin Baddeley (1999)1
Despite, then, the aesthetic agreements and a general trend towards social toughness, there is hardly anything that reverberates between both Nazi Fascism and Satanism.

2. Disagreements

2.1. Social Stratification: Meritocracy is Good, Racism is Stupid

Anton LaVey explains that the core difference between Satanism and the Nazis' ideology is on race: "The Satanic attitude is that people should be judged by their own merit - in every race there are leaders and followers"2. Satanism is based on individuals who stand out. It cannot be right to arbitrarily judge a person's worth without taking into account their individual achievements and capabilities. Scientific studies have proven that in most areas, not is there little difference between "races" in terms of strength or intellectual ability, but that the very concept of "race" is questionable. Racism is impossibly flawed. Even if one race was statistically better in some trait, the spread of individual capability across the scale means that the elite individuals we are looking for will still occur in all races, unpredictably so. Meritocracy is a catch-all, racism is stupid.

“Egalitarianism is the belief that everyone is equal. Satanism upholds the belief that everyone is not equal, but is otherwise broadly in sync with liberal opinions on social, moral and legal equality. People are not equal because everyone has different skills, characters and abilities. Social stratification and organized meritocracy let those with qualities rise to the top. Therefore there should be equality of opportunity, rights and legal equality, but not social or economic equality. Intellectualism aside, there is still an overriding humanitarian cause for protecting the weak, ill and disadvantaged.”
"Equality, Egalitarianism and Social Stratification in Satanism"
Vexen Crabtree (2005)
Just in case I have been unclear or you want it from a higher authority, read the following quote from the now-High Priest of the Church of Satan, Peter Gilmore (1992):

“The Nazi movement drew much of its power from a racist doctrine of Aryan superiority. Satanism is far more discerning than that. [...] Even if one comes from promising genetic stock, and by that we mean from ancestors who have proven their abilities to be superior in performance, this does not guarantee an individual's advancement. We recognize individual merit, and ascribe no value to bloodlines. Satanists only deem individuals to be "elite" if they prove it. [...] There are thus outstanding individuals from all ethnic backgrounds, and they are embraced by Satanism for the superior beings that they are - creating a uniquely trans-cultural tribe of carnal people. Satanists treasure individualism, hardly something to be gained by goose- stepping en mass down the street.”
"The Satanic Scriptures" by Peter Gilmore (2007)3
2.2. Satanism is Liberal: Pro-Individual, Pro-Sexuality

Satanism upholds freedom, individuality; whilst fascism is a belief that the individual is subservient to a powerful state.

Sexually: Satanism supports all consensual sex, whereas Nazi Germany only tolerated strict heterosexuality, oppressing gays & fetishists (even heterosexual ones).

Fascism has historically oppressed all opposing ideologies, whereas Satanism is committed to open-minded liberalism, not fundamentalism. Diversity of belief is a cherished Satanic value, and oppression of thought is an evil - how could a religion based on individual ego be otherwise!

Satanism, based on a mistrust of human nature, is naturally inclined towards supporting democratic government, not dictatorships, but all fascist states have been dictatorships.

The Fascists heavily oppressed not only racial groups such as Jews, but many minorities such as gays, occultists and religious minorities. Fascism is anti-freethought and not at all compatible with the individualism of Satanism.

3. Satanic Government is a Form of Democracy

From my page Democracy and Dictatorships: Satanic Mistrust of Human Nature:

“I speak on behalf of Satanists in general when I say that we do not trust Human Nature at all, nor any one person completely. Not even ourselves. Doubt and questioning are at the core of Satan's rebellion; our role model here provides us with a good example of how things should be run. We must always question other people's motives and I for one, trust those in charge no more than I trust any other person.
This mistrust and its inherent aura of competition must always be present within the government; an atmosphere where one person is not critically judged or challenged allows that person, who is running the country in which you live, to freely make mistakes or to descend into madness. Wherever there has been one person in charge, unchallenged, corruption and inefficiency increase. The one thing that we should not accept within governing bodies is entropy. Those who begin to falter should be easily replaced.
“Democratic institutions form a system of quarantine for tyrannical desires.”
Friedrich Nietzsche
Multiple levels of questioning, doubt and political combat are necessary to keep the best, cleverest and most cunning people in charge. Anyone with a decent amount of honesty about Human nature will not permit a dictatorship ... and so be it for Satanism. The Satanic government is fast moving, efficient, and its members will take every opportunity to exploit and point out each other's failings, to compete amongst each other. Satanic government is therefore a modified form of democracy. [...]
A form of stratification fixes the leaks that democracy springs when the masses are ignorant and stupid. The tested intelligent electorate should have two votes, the uneducated and inferior should only have one. The present culture in the uk is at such a level of education that democracy has become an empty shell, until education reaches a generally higher level stratification is the least problematic form of democracy. Better to have a functioning unequal democracy rather than a dysfunctional, hollow pseudo-democracy based on simplistic deceit. The former is a little like a meritocracy, whereas the latter is national suicide.”
"Democracy and Dictatorships: Satanic Mistrust of Human Nature" by Vexen Crabtree (2001)
4. Friedrich Nietzsche

See:
"Friedrich Nietzsche and Satanism" by Vexen Crabtree (2005)

Friedrich Nietzsche, 1844 Oct 15 - 1900 Aug 25, was a German philosopher who challenged the foundations of morality and promoted life affirmation and individualism. He was one of the first existentialist philosophers. Some of Nietzsche's philosophies have surfaced as those upheld by Satanists. His detractors continue to run a smear campaign, based on genuine malevolence or ignorance, associating Nietzsche with Fascism. Modern-day scholars largely refute the idea that Nietzsche would have supported Nazi Germany or its morality, especially given its anti-human, destructive, restricting and oppressive nature. The most horrific actions of the Nazis, the genocide of the Jews, the "lowest" race, was based on a nationalism that predated Nietzsche.

“The important of a distinctive national consciousness was first emphasized in Germany in the late eighteenth century. Writers such as Herder (1744-1803) and Fichte (1762-1814) highlighted what they believed to be the uniqueness and superiority of Germanic culture. [...] Herder believed that each nation possesses a Volksgeist or 'national spirit', which provides its peoples with their creative impulse.”
"Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)4
“Nietzsche has long been caricatured as a fascistic thinker whose ideas found their eventual expression in the genocidal racial politics of Nazi Germany. In fact, Nietzsche despised nationalism and anti-Semitism and railed against the backwardness of the German Reich from the 1870s onwards. A good deal of the damage done to his reputation was inflicted by his sister Elizabeth Nietzsche (1846-1935), who assumed editorship of Nietzsche's corpus of work after his collapse into insanity in 1889. Elizabeth's political sympathies may be gauged by her marriage to the anti-Semitic political leader Bernhard Forster (1843-89). Her editorship of Nietzsche's work corrupted its content, removed many of the philosophical contexts that gave it its meaning, and prepared it for its appropriation by Nazi ideologues after Nietzsche's death in 1900.”
"Friedrich Nietzsche" by Lee Spinks (2003)5
Links:

"Friedrich Nietzsche and Satanism" by Vexen Crabtree (2005)
5. Conclusions

Satanism and Fascism differ on many important points. Satanism is highly individualistic, where a person's skills and talents, character and willpower are the true gauges of worth; and where the ego is championed. As such, Satanism accepts differences of opinion, disputes, strong disagreements, etc, because that's what you get when you bring free-thinking rebels together - plus a bit of fire. Fascism holds that the State is supreme and its importance outweighs the rights of the individual, and that individualism is trumped by race, which are both nonsense ideas. Satanic theory highlights the fickle and self-interesting nature of mankind, and therefore, Satanists cannot accept dictatorships as we know that they also spell trouble for all. Democracy, where the talented rise and the decrepit fall, where politicians are questioned, is better than dictatorships where leaders can descend into madness without being ousted. The only similarities between fascism and Satanism are in (1) style: Both have tended to like red, black and white sharp-edged symbols, and (2) in social ethics: Both prefer more immediate, harsher justice.

http://www.dpjs.co.uk/fascism.html

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 02:39 AM
He emptys his big sack on children
He creeps into their houses
He makes them sit on his lap
He hides all year
He gives a big "present" to children













Its sick, but true!











Beware Santa peadophile rings!!

octopusrex
06-03-2012, 05:18 AM
I am not sure this is right.

http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/mosesmarry.html

Certainly not. The Jews are God's "chosen". Duh.

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 05:23 AM
Certainly not. The Jews are God's "chosen". Duh.

They are humans like all others



oops, im getting involved in general chit chat

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 05:26 AM
AND THIS IS WHY THEY LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE THAT JEWS ARE THE ILLUMINATI

THE SAME REASON THEY LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE CHRISTIANS ARE KKK












"Where the rubber meets the road, the Illuminati have an absolutely satanic hatred for Jews," a contact who did business with a prominent Illuminati family notified me.

"Jew-hatred spiritually energizes them," he continued.

"I read too much out there that falls for the lie that the conspiracy is Jewish at its highest levels. Granted, it appears that way, and a lot of data is hard to argue with, but I have first-hand knowledge of the depth of Jew-hatred among people who are the real thing. These people (at least the ones I knew) are not Zionist Bankers, but totally Gentile."

To all appearances Jews have a disproportionate role in the Illuminati New World Order. How do we account for this apparent contradiction?

Illuminati defector Svali offers a clue. Illuminati Jews have renounced their Jewish beliefs and background. She says the Illuminati hate Israel.

"The Illuminati are racist in the extreme... Yes, there are some very powerful Jewish people in this group. For instance, the Rothschild family literally runs the financial empire in Europe (and indirectly the States), and are a well-known Jewish family...But to rise to power in the Illuminati, a Jewish person would be forced to renounce their faith, and to give their first allegiance to Lucifer and the beliefs of the Illuminati."

Following the research of Rabbi Marvin Antelman, Barry Chamish has exposed the heresies of Sabbatai Zvi and Jacob Frank that created a schism in European Jewry in 17th and 18th century respectively. This was essentially a satanic movement that turned Jewish teaching on its ear. Everything that was forbidden by God was now permitted. Sin and not righteousness was the way to salvation. Sexual depravity (especially wife swapping orgies) was encouraged as a means to destroy the family and the social fabric. They wanted a clean slate on which to redesign society in their image.

A fierce hatred developed between satanic Jews and the rabbis who tried to expel the heretics from the community. This schism was partially reflected in the divide between western Jews who shed their religion for "secular humanism and reason" and eastern Jews who remained Orthodox. Many secular Jews became radicals as they tried to replace their lost religion with belief in a worldly utopia. The Illuminati were able to dupe them with their fraudulent Communist promise. "Change the World" is their deceptive slogan.

The satanic leader Jacob Frank (1726-91) formed an alliance with the Rothschilds, the power behind the Illuminati. They started the Reform and Conservative branches of Judaism, which posed as "liberation from the confines of Jewish inner law and ghetto." They encouraged Jews to assimilate, inter-marry, change their names and even convert to Christianity. They tapped selected followers to advance their satanic agenda by subverting Christian civilization from within.

Sen. John Kerry's background fits this profile perfectly. His grandfather was a Frankest Jew "Kohn" who adopted an Irish name and converted to Catholicism. His father worked for the CIA. His mother was part of the Forbes family, which made its fortune in the drug trade (opium), like many of America's "first families." Kerry himself is a member of the Illuminati Skull and Bones.

(Kerry's background)

During the last election, Wesley Clark discovered he was half-Jewish. Madeleine Albright admitted she was Jewish. Her father Josef Korbel was Condoleezza Rice's mentor at Denver University. Before that he was accused of stealing art treasures from a prominent Czech family when he was a Communist official in the post-war period.

The picture that emerges is a conspiracy of gentiles, part Jews and hidden Jews united by allegiance to a satanic world dictatorship (essentially an outgrowth of British imperialism.) Winston Churchill, who was Jewish and the current Baron Jacob Rothschild, whose mother was not Jewish, fit this description.

There is a surprising list of American Presidents who are suspected of being Jewish or part-Jewish including Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Eisenhower, and Lyndon Johnson.

It is possible that members of the Nazi hierarchy were also part Jewish. Hitler's grandmother left the Rothschild's employment in Vienna when she became pregnant with Hitler's father. In his 1964 book "Before Hitler Came" author Dietrich Bronder, a Jew himself, claims the following personages all had Jewish blood: Hesse, Goering,Strasser, Goebbels, Rosenberg, Frank, Himmler, von Ribbentrop, Heydrich and many more. (Kardel, "Hitler Founder of Israel" p.4)

My own hypothesis is that WWII was contrived by the Illuminati to destroy German nationalism and nation/race concepts in general. (They neglected to tell their Nazi branch about this, of course. This is behind Rudolf Hess' mission and imprisonment. ) The Illuminati also used the war to purge Europe of Jews who weren't allied to them. The Jewish holocaust created a rationale for the State of Israel, which was intended to dominate the Middle East, serve as an excuse for WWIII, and as capital of the future Masonic world government. There is plenty of evidence that the Nazis collaborated with Zionists, and that the Zionists betrayed their Jewish brethren during the war. Sabbatean Jews in the West prevented Jews from escaping from Europe. http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Commentary/Kerry_Gaza.htm

(See also my "Zionism: Compulsory Suicide for Jews" http://www.savethemales.ca/091202.html and "Why the Jews Went Quietly" http://www.savethemales.ca/270103.html)

"Zionism is but an incident of a far reaching plan," said leading American Zionist Louis Marshall, counsel for bankers Kuhn Loeb in 1917. "It is merely a convenient peg on which to hang a powerful weapon."

The far-reaching plan is Illuminati world dictatorship. The Illuminati is the highest echelon of Freemasonry, an occult secret society dedicated to Lucifer. The world's central bankers have intermarried with the richest dynastic families of Europe and America to bring about world hegemony. They instigated wars and depressions to degrade and destroy humanity. The American people have been financing their wars since 1914.

They undermine society by attacking its sources of communal resistance: race, religion, nation and family. Jews are a convenient instrument for social dissolution because they don't belong to the majority religion or race. (Homosexuality and lesbian feminism are used to dissolve family.) Jews are easily brainwashed and can be placed in positions of power and influence. They may suffer the consequences if the Illuminati no longer require their services, or if the people realize 9-11 and the War on Terror are a Neo-Con implemented fraud.

(Jews easily brainwashed)

In the meantime, "the Jews" serve as a convenient scapegoat for the Illuminati. It is easy to forget that the majority of Jews are patriotic citizens who would like to assimilate if only their country wasn't being dismantled. They are not part of this world government agenda. (E.g. I am a Canadian. The leading Canadian nationalist is Mel Hurtig, a Jew.)

In addition, it's easy to forget that non-Jewish national elites have betrayed their countries and succumbed to the Illuminati. Look at the membership lists of the Illuminati "Skull and Bones" or elite "Pilgrim Society" to see that the vast majority of adherents are non-Jews. Read "Secret Societies of America's Elite" by Steven Sora for the non-Jewish side of the criminal US Illuminati leadership.

Svali suggests a reason why the Illuminati hate religious Jews: "The Jews historically fought against the occult. See Deuteronomy and the Old Testament for how God through the Jewish people tried to cleanse the land of the occult groups that were operating there, such as those who worshiped Baal, Ashtarte, and other Canaanite and Babylonian gods."

It's time Jews rediscovered this heritage and took up this mandate again.

In conclusion, a Satanic cult controls the world. It consists not of Jews, Muslims, or Christians but of Satanists pretending to be Jews, Muslims, and Christians.


http://www.rense.com/general70/ilum.htm

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 05:28 AM
A bewildering letter of clarification by Metropolitan Seraphim of Piraeus seeks to clarify that he does not hate Jews (recognizing that Jesus was born a Jew), but claims that the Jews have since been lead into Satanism by the teachings of the Talmud, the Rabbis and the Kabbalah, and that Zionism is a conspiracy to take over the world. Metropolitan Seraphim further seems to believe that because he has already publicly declared his belief in these crackpot theories in the past, he should be exempt from the angry reaction shown at his most recent pronouncements.



The letter was published on a Greek-Orthodox news agency’s website. It came following the widespread outrage and condemnation of the remarks which the Greek Orthodox bishop made on a recent television interview, in which he blamed the country’s financial problems on a conspiracy of Jewish bankers, and claimed that the Holocaust was orchestrated by Zionists.

The text reads as follows:



Original
Rough Translation:



Διευκρινιστικές δηλώσεις του Μητροπολίτη Πειραιώς Σεραφείμ

Πέμπτη, 23 Δεκέμβριος 2010 Συντάχθηκε απο τον/την 20:30

Με αφορμή τον εγερθέντα θόρυβον εκ μέρους του European Jewish Congress σχετικώς με συνέντευξί μου εις τον τηλεοπτικό δίαυλο MEGA την 20ην λήγοντος μηνός Δεκεμβρίου ε.ε. εις πρώτην φάσιν έχω να δηλώσω τα κάτωθι:

1. Τα όσα ανέφερα κατά την τηλεοπτικήν μου συνέντευξιν εις την εκπομπήν «κοινωνία ώρα mega» αποτελούν αυστηρώς προσωπικάς μου θέσεις και απόψεις τας οποίας επανειλλημένως προφορικώς και γραπτώς έχω εκθέσει.

2. Σέβομαι, τιμώ και αγαπώ ιδιαζόντως τον εβραϊκόν λαόν όπως και κάθε άλλον λαόν της υφηλίου κατά την διδασκαλίαν του ενσαρκωθέντος Υιού του Θεού και αληθούς Μεσσίου Κυρίου Ιησού Χριστού του Σωτήρος και Λυτρωτού, τον οποίον προανήγγειλαν όλοι οι Προφήται και ο Οποίος ενσαρκώθη δια του Ιουδαϊκού έθνους.

3. Η δημοσία καταφορά μου κατά του Διεθνούς Σιωνισμού αναφέρεται εις το όργανον εκείνο που ως διάδοχος του «Σαχεντρίν» μετέβαλλε την πίστι των Πατριαρχών, Προφητών και Δικαίων του Ιουδαϊκού έθνους δια του Ταλμούδ, της Ραββινικής παραφιλολογίας και της Καμπάλα εις Εωσφορισμόν και αγωνίζεται παντί σθένει δια της οικονομικής αυτοκρατορίας που συνέστησε παγκοσμίως με έδρα την μεγάλη υπερατλαντικήν χώραν δια την επικράτησιν της παγκόσμιας κυβέρνησης και της πανθρησκείας.

4. Θεωρώ όπως κάθε εχέφρων άνθρωπος εις τον πλανήτην το ναζιστικό καθεστώς και τον παρανοϊκό δικτάτορά του Αδόλφο Χίτλερ ως ειδεχθώς κακουργήσαντας κατά της ανθρωπότητος και ίσταμαι μετά πάσης τιμής και σεβασμού ενώπιον του εβραϊκού ολοκαυτώματος όπως και κάθε ετέρας ειδεχθούς γενοκτονίας ως του Ποντιακού Ελληνισμού και του Αρμενικού λαού. Άλλωστε και το ελληνικόν έθνος θρηνεί χιλιάδας μαρτύρων από την εγκληματική ναζιστική θηριωδία.

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Clarifying statement by Metropolitan Seraphim of Piraeus

Thursday, the 23rd December 2010, Written at 20:30

Following the questions raised by the European Jewish Congress with regard to my interview with the MEGA television channel on December 20, I have to say the following:

1. The things I said during my participation in the "society hours mega” are strictly my personal views and opinions, which I have expressed repeatedly both verbally and in writing.

2. I respect, revere and love the Jewish people as I do any other people of our world, in accordance with the teaching of the incarnated Son of God and the true Messiah the Lord Jesus Christ the Saviour and Redeemer, who was heralded by all Prophets, and who was incarnated by the Jewish nation.

3. My vehement public opposition to International Zionism refers to the organization that is the successor of the "Sanhedrin", which through the Talmud, the Rabbinical Writings and Kaballah has altered the faith of the Patriarchs, the Prophets and Righteous of the Jewish nation into Satanism, and strives vigorously and constantly to form an economic empire throughout the world, with headquarters in the big nation(1) beyond the Atlantic leading to a world government and a pan-religion.

4. I, like any sane person on the planet, see the Nazi regime and the paranoid dictator Adolf Hitler as horrible criminals against humanity and object with all honor and respect against the Jewish Holocaust and against any other heinous genocide such as of the Pontic Greek and the Armenian people. Besides, the nation mourns thousands of martyrs who witnessed the criminal Nazi atrocities.


http://fighthatred.com/profiles-in-hate/religious-figures/812-greek-bishops-clarification-jews-are-satanists-who-want

hurt4ever1
06-03-2012, 05:48 AM
AND THIS IS WHY THEY LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE THAT JEWS ARE THE ILLUMINATI

THE SAME REASON THEY LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE CHRISTIANS ARE KKK

In conclusion, a Satanic cult controls the world. It consists not of Jews, Muslims, or Christians but of Satanists pretending to be Jews, Muslims, and Christians.


http://www.rense.com/general70/ilum.htm



Dispute Over Whose Children Jesus’ Opponents Are

31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?”

34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. 37 I know that you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word. 38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father.”

39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.

“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would[c] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”

[B]“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”


Revelation 2

8 “To the angel of the church in Smyrna write:
These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again. 9 I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 10 Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown.

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 05:54 AM
Bringing up the bible are we?

Ok

you wanna play rough?

ok

Say hello to my dittle friend

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 05:55 AM
As Israel is chastised by the entire world for its tough response against Hezbollah rocket attacks from Southern Lebanon, some Christians want to know what this has to do with them. They wonder if God may be finally finished with Israel after all their years of stiff necked defiance and refusal to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. They see the United Nations, the EU, the Vatican, and other religious organizations calling for a ceasefire. Only the United States thus far has stood behind Israel’s right to defend itself against kaytusha rocket attacks against its civilians in the northern Galilee and Haifa.

I wrote a similar article last year, “A Promise is a Promise”, when people were concerned about Israelis leaving their settlements in Gaza. Look what has happened. They left southern Lebanon in the year 2000 and were promised that the militias like Hezbollah would be disarmed. They left Gaza last year hoping that a land for peace strategy would work. Both withdrawals failed, as Gaza and southern Lebanon have both erupted in violence. I did a radio interview last week and was asked why the Jews and Muslims could not just get along. The reason is that Satan hates the Jewish people, especially the Israelis, and there would not be peace until the Prince of Peace returns (Isaiah 9:6).

Why is this? Paul summarized it best in Romans 9:4-5

“Israelites to who belongs the adoption

as sons and the glory and the covenants

and the giving of the Law and the temple

service and the promises, whose are the

fathers, and from whom is the Christ

according to the flesh, who is over all…”

God used His first born chosen people, the Jews (through the Patriarchs, Prophets, and Temple) to bring His word, the Law and morality, to the earth and then sent His Son in a Jewish body to save the world from its sin. Satan hates God and His word and he hates God’s chosen vessel, the Jews, from who came Jesus Christ. Satan used the Babylonians and the Persians and the Assyrians and the Hittites and the Egyptians to try and destroy this royal bloodline by destroying the Jews, but he failed. Then after Christ died on the cross for our sins, he continued to try and see that the scattered Jews would not return to their homeland and reestablish their Jewish nation. He infiltrated the Church and helped instigate the Crusades and the Inquisition and the pogroms and the Holocaust in order to destroy the Jews so they could not create another Israel. Why was he so hell-bent on preventing that from happening? Because Jesus Christ is to return to the Mount of Olives (Zech 14:4) to rule and reign from Jerusalem for a 1000 years from the rebuilt Temple. Recently he has infiltrated the Mosque and is using Islam to try and destroy the Jews and Israel. While once it was the Crusader and the Grand Inquisitor and the Nazi, today it is the Imam and the Islamic Cleric and the President of Iran who have called for the destruction of Israel and the Jews. Unfortunately, however, Satan is still alive and well in the body of Christ spouting such lies from the pits of hell as “replacement theology”, that the church has somehow replaced Israel. It is Satan trying to show that God’s word is a lie. He will of course fail but many souls will be lost in the process, Muslim as well as Jew as well as so called Christian.

What Christians fail to realize, is the fact that if God is finished with Israel then maybe He might be finished with them as well.

Ludwig Schneider wrote “Christians note the veil over the eyes of Jews that binds them from seeing the Messiah, but when non Jews don’t believe that God’s promises to Israel are still valid today, there is a veil over their hearts which encompasses all the nations. Whether Jew or Gentile, these veils must be removed.”

The Abrahamic Covenant gave ownership of the land of Canaan unconditionally to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It was an everlasting possession (Genesis 17:7-8). That means forever. This was reiterated when an Angel of the Lord said; “I brought you up out of Egypt and led you into the land which I have sworn to your fathers and I said I will never break my covenant” (Judges 2:1). God keeps His promises that He confirmed to Israel as an everlasting covenant (Psalm105:6-11) and He says that the offspring of Israel will cease from being a nation when the fixed order of the sun, the moon and the stars departs (Jeremiah 31:35-37).

If Israel ceases to be a nation on that land, then what was Paul speaking of when he said of the Jews that the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable (Romans 11:29)? Jesus Himself said that all the things talked about in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled. It means the Temple must be rebuilt (Daniel 9:27). The House of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem must recognize Him that they have pierced (Zechariah 12:10). That will never happen if Jerusalem is ceded to the Palestinians. Paul in his Second Letter to the church at Thessalonica said that the antichrist will reign from the Temple (2Thess.2:4). The Temple will not be rebuilt under Palestinian control.

And finally Paul wrote that someday all Israel will be saved (Romans 11:26). This will not happen if Israel no longer exists.

What does all of this mean to Christians? If God promised Israel that land and reneges on His promise, then He might renege on your promise of salvation as well. Paul wrote to Titus about “the hope of eternal life which God promised ages ago” (Titus 1:2). God cannot lie and His promises are faithful (Hebrews 10:23). Thus if God keeps his promises to Israel and the land, then He will keep His promises to you about eternal salvation. Watch God working with Israel and rest assured that He will keep working with you because a promise is a promise. And like He did not forsake a stiff necked rebellious Israel, God will not turn His back on you. God loves Israel and Satan hates Israel. God says that anyone that touches Israel touches the apple (pupil) of His eye (Zechariah 2:8). That means that anybody that messes with Israel sticks his finger in God’s eye. Why does Satan hate the Israelis? He hates them because God loves them in spite of their unbelief and one day is going to set up His kingdom in their midst for a thousand years as He gives them a new heart and a new spirit (Zechariah 12:10 , Jeremiah 31:33).

http://prophecyforum.com/yulish/satan.html

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 05:58 AM
Racial prejudice and bigotry are products of man's fallen wicked heart and are expressed in malicious actions against the group of people that are hated. Make no mistake about it, racial prejudice always leads to mistrust and hatred. When this action is directed against the Jewish people it is termed anti-Semitism. The Jews are a people with a Semitic heritage having descended from Shem, Noah's son, through Abraham.

Satan's hatred of the Jews may be traced all the way back to the fall of mankind recorded in the book of Genesis:

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Notice that a woman does not naturally produce seed; conception takes place when the man's seed fertilizes the woman's egg. The woman's seed that would ultimately bruise the head of the "Serpent" (another name for the Devil) is the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ. HE was divinely and miraculously conceived in the womb of a virgin who was from the Hebrew tribe of Judah.

The main reason Satan hates the Jewish nation is due to the fact that it brought forth the Messiah whose death on the cross and subsequent resurrection de-fanged the venomous Serpent. The second great reason the Devil has special hatred for the Jews is because through Christ all the nations of the earth can be saved from eternal damnation. Since misery loves company Satan desires nothing less than you and billions of other souls be in Hell with him forever. Christ brought eternal salvation to the masses and this fact thwarts Satan's plan.

The third great reason Satan hates the Jewish nation is due to the prophetic destiny of Israel and Jerusalem. In order that God's plan for the ages to be fulfilled Israel must occupy the territory granted to Abraham by God as recorded in the book of Genesis. (Genesis 12, 17) Moreover, the city of Jerusalem is scheduled to become the chief city of the world from which Messiah will reign. (Zechariah 14:16-17) Satan's scheme will seek to prevent this from ever happening, thus nullifying the promises made to Abraham and his descendants in the Old Testament. The evil intent is to somehow prove that God’s word is wrong and untrustworthy. God has committed HIMSELF to safeguard Israel forever.

A fourth reason Satan hates the Jewish people is because they through the prophets and apostles have given the people of the world the written Word of God. I would not be writing these words today nor have a Christian ministry had it not been for the holy men of God who were Jewish and shared the words of the Lord with the entire world.

Finally Satan hates the Jewish nation for the same reason he hates all people; they are made in the image and likeness of God whom he hates intensely but cannot overthrow. Satan wants to destroy the nation of Israel but he cannot achieve this because God is protecting it and when she is attacked HE will defend it for HIS own name's sake. True Christians would never persecute Jews; they would make an effort to introduce them to the true Messiah, while there is yet time.

Jeremiah 33:25-26 Thus says the LORD; If my covenant is not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth; Then will I cast away the descendants of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his descendants to be rulers over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.


http://familyhelps.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-satan-hates-jews.html

octopusrex
06-03-2012, 04:38 PM
They are humans like all others



oops, im getting involved in general chit chat

What is "human"?

Is a deformed, four legged human still human? A giant? A dwarf?
And if there is a race of humans destined by "God" as they would have us believe, to rule over all other "humans" are they still "human"?

blackyblue
06-03-2012, 07:36 PM
What is "human"?

Is a deformed, four legged human still human? A giant? A dwarf?
And if there is a race of humans destined by "God" as they would have us believe, to rule over all other "humans" are they still "human"?

No, they would have you believe they are reptillian..

Make no mistake, people dont believe in the reptillian theory by accident...They want you to believe they are not human

Afterall, although it may seem at first glanse that exposing elitests as being non human related to GODS would be harmful to them, far from it, this would see them become figure heads of a new religion with a new religious following, with the King the new 'Julius Caesar/GOD'.

octopusrex
07-03-2012, 12:24 AM
No, they would have you believe they are reptillian..

Make no mistake, people dont believe in the reptillian theory by accident...They want you to believe they are not human

Afterall, although it may seem at first glanse that exposing elitests as being non human related to GODS would be harmful to them, far from it, this would see them become figure heads of a new religion with a new religious following, with the King the new 'Julius Caesar/GOD'.

What if this is all just in your mind? What if folks are folks and not reptilian vampires? Would that change something?

blackyblue
07-03-2012, 12:29 AM
What if this is all just in your mind? What if folks are folks and not reptilian vampires? Would that change something?

Well they would not be able to start a religion with followers if people believed they where humans and not of the original bloodline now would they?

Remember, you might think it is terrible that they are descended from a lying decietful people manipulated and controlled humanity for nions, MILLIONS WONT....Millions will think 'WOW:eek: Those are descendants of GOD that know the truth about everything:eek:'


If you where going to start your own religion, how would you do it?

You may start by teaching them in a round about way, making out that you are against the very thing you are actually promoting?

Its very easy to make people come to conclusions,, give em the dots, put em in the right places and boom, they have connected them all for themselves and came to their own conclusions, which is coincidentally the same conclusion everyone else came to:eek:



A bit like 4 year olds playing dot to dot...They are not drawing their own picture, or doing anything anyother 4 year old cant do, but they are drawing same picture, and if they have a shred of intelligence, there is really only one conclusion they can draw..The one that was mapped out for them, or the one sees them in special ed

octopusrex
07-03-2012, 04:01 PM
Well they would not be able to start a religion with followers if people believed they where humans and not of the original bloodline now would they?

Remember, you might think it is terrible that they are descended from a lying decietful people manipulated and controlled humanity for nions, MILLIONS WONT....Millions will think 'WOW:eek: Those are descendants of GOD that know the truth about everything:eek:'


If you where going to start your own religion, how would you do it?

You may start by teaching them in a round about way, making out that you are against the very thing you are actually promoting?

Its very easy to make people come to conclusions,, give em the dots, put em in the right places and boom, they have connected them all for themselves and came to their own conclusions, which is coincidentally the same conclusion everyone else came to:eek:



A bit like 4 year olds playing dot to dot...They are not drawing their own picture, or doing anything anyother 4 year old cant do, but they are drawing same picture, and if they have a shred of intelligence, there is really only one conclusion they can draw..The one that was mapped out for them, or the one sees them in special ed

Start my own religion? God forbid! Why in the world would I want to do that?:eek:

hurt4ever1
24-03-2012, 04:43 AM
This is the governments fault, none of these people are responsible for their actions, the government made them do these things.

blackyblue
24-03-2012, 04:57 AM
This is the governments fault, none of these people are responsible for their actions, the government made them do these things.

No, the government did not make them abuse children.

However the government did employ soldiers and send them to war..and most soldiers are 16 17 18, very young people easy lead

hurt4ever1
24-03-2012, 05:19 AM
No, the government did not make them abuse children.

However the government did employ soldiers and send them to war..and most soldiers are 16 17 18, very young people easy lead

Oh, so the government doesn't make people abuse children?

Would this include the Christians that do this also?

blackyblue
24-03-2012, 05:25 AM
Oh, so the government doesn't make people abuse children?

Would this include the Christians that do this also?

Of course.

Unless of course the government are employing them to abuse children, then at the very least the government would have a lot to answer for

Just the same if a police officer gets ordered to shoot someone from his superior in charge, in this instance it would not be the police officer gets charged, but the superior in charge....It would be different however if the officer was working outside his call of duty

hurt4ever1
24-03-2012, 05:28 AM
Of course.

Unless of course the government are employing them to abuse children, then at the very least the government would have a lot to answer for

Just the same if a police officer gets ordered to shoot someone from his superior in charge, in this instance it would not be the police officer gets charged, but the superior in charge....It would be different however if the officer was working outside his call of duty

So then if a minister, priest, or pastor molests children, then it is HIS OWN FAULT, and not the fault of the government.