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adam 7
29-02-2012, 09:45 AM
Been watching fox news election coverage. Its obvious us politics is just like here in the uk. Doesnt matter who gets in they just follow the same agenda. One side supports the agenda and one opposes. And when they swop places, they swop roles. Doesnt matter whos in, same bull same agenda. The banks get richer, the masses get further in debt. Debts accumulate to bail out banks and fight illuminati wars we cant afford. Its such a charade. The election is a joke cause the democracy is a fake. All the things the oppose in opposition they support when they get in. Then the other side who previously supported the agenda, now oppose it. They must think we are really dumb. Except ppl are waking up and they don like it :)

dude111
29-02-2012, 02:36 PM
EXACTLY BUD!!!!!!

They are all corrupt and all related!! (Nothing changes no matter who gets in)

Its all a game to occupy the sheeple and let them THINK they have control when they REALLY DO NOT!

skabbymuff
05-03-2012, 07:30 PM
just to add how our (western) MSM are today having a complete field day accusing russias recent 60-something percent victory for putin as being dodgy, despite the fact that each and every state election in the USA recently has had massive doubts as to the real results.... the pot calling the kettle black IMO. its all a fucking game, its all bullshit.

oiram
05-03-2012, 07:46 PM
No! ... democracy was always fake from the beginning......
& you did not see it being blind like the entire Adam's family!

51. His disciples said to him, "When will the rest for the dead take place, and when will the new world come?"

He said to them, "What you are looking forward to has come, but you don't know it."

113. His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"

"It will not come by watching for it. It will not be said, "Look, here!" or "Look, there!" Rather, the Father's kingdom is spread out upon the earth, and people don't see it."


Also there is this which nobody knows about!!!
You have the right to NOT VOTE! The only right you ever had & never used...
I used this right the day I left school till today ... my hands are clean & they will stay clean until I die!!!
You can not serve two masters! Also I have my father & mother already; so why would I be so stupid to vote for another??

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totalrecall
05-03-2012, 09:11 PM
just to add how our (western) MSM are today having a complete field day accusing russias recent 60-something percent victory for putin as being dodgy, despite the fact that each and every state election in the USA recently has had massive doubts as to the real results.... the pot calling the kettle black IMO. its all a fucking game, its all bullshit.

You too eh. Just thought the same thing myself. You know 20 years ago we would all be nodding our heads at "evil Russia". Personally, I think the political USA is just as if not more corrupt than political Russia. The hypocrisy is breathtaking isn't it? I laughed when the Western "news" berated Russian media for supporting Putin only etc. Oh the irony. American news is easily the most controlled in the world (having seen it first hand in almost disbelief on a trip to New York 2 years ago).

I don't know who has won the Republican presidential candidacy (has it been decided yet?) but I bet you a million dollars that Romney will get it and they will say that Ron Paul came a close second. My feeling is that Ron Paul won by a landslide, but they'll fudge it like I said above. It's the way third-world countries roll. A third-world country which America is not long off being.

I think they've always fudged it a little but nothing to the extent as now because the brainwashing isn't as effective as pre-internet.

totalrecall
05-03-2012, 09:31 PM
Been watching fox news election coverage. Its obvious us politics is just like here in the uk. Doesnt matter who gets in they just follow the same agenda. One side supports the agenda and one opposes. And when they swop places, they swop roles. Doesnt matter whos in, same bull same agenda. The banks get richer, the masses get further in debt. Debts accumulate to bail out banks and fight illuminati wars we cant afford. Its such a charade. The election is a joke cause the democracy is a fake. All the things the oppose in opposition they support when they get in. Then the other side who previously supported the agenda, now oppose it. They must think we are really dumb. Except ppl are waking up and they don like it :)

Hey Adam, I've only just fully realized this myself. I mean, I always knew it but I was like a schizo - complaining about it one minute and then participating in their charade the next.

Now, I am fully cold turkey. However, I'm still going to the voting booth but to not to put a tick in any of their preconceived boxes. Instead I'm going to bring a black marker pen and write something like this on the voting sheet they give me:

"I vote for the dissolution of government, including the European Union.
I vote for the dissolution of all bureaucrats and politicians.
I vote for the end of the state and statutory law.
I vote an end to the state police, the state judiciary and its prison system.
I vote for the abolition of all central banks in the world.
I vote for the abolition of institutionalized debt.
I vote for the end of all regulatory agencies and quangos including the FDA, AMA, BDA, BMA and all professional councils (who run nothing but protection rackets).
I vote for the abolition of tax and the military and all secret service agencies.
I vote for the end of the corporate status of companies.
I vote for the end of the mafia, the cartel, the money masters.
I vote for the end of the new world order, regulatory bureaucracy and fascism.
I vote for freedom, freedom of the common man."

That's what I am going to write so that my voice will be heard and they know they have one less sucker on their list. Fuck em.

believenothing
05-03-2012, 10:49 PM
Dumb example here. Let's say you mean to open up a new business venture. Like a restaurant for example. You are looking for a nice sign that fits your vision of the restaurant. Pretend you have already hired your entire staff, you even have a bathroom attendant.

Would it be wise to have this entire staff equally vote on which sign suits the restaurant best? Maybe the bathroom attendant is a really wise and artistic fellow whose opinion should not be ignored when it comes to the restaurant's sign. But maybe much like the waitresses he is just there for a pay check. You see what I am saying?

The average American had absolutely no idea how the government functions so why should they have any say in who is to run it? Partisan issues are a joke. Essentially folks are voting for the candidate who has the same favorite color as theirs. That's not much of an exaggeration.

Democracy is easily corruptible as we have already seen via lobbies and corporations. In all honesty, a monarchy under something like an emperor would be preferable. A powerful and intelligent dictator who doesn't give two shits about corporate interests and lobbies.

Some folks believe that Gaddafi was just such a ruler. Others believe that Hitler was such a ruler. Are they wrong? Are you wrong? In this world full of lies, how are we to know what is true or not?

carlo_caci
06-03-2012, 12:55 AM
A really good point was made above and another reason to vote ron paul

rowz
25-03-2012, 06:56 PM
EXACTLY BUD!!!!!!

They are all corrupt and all related!! (Nothing changes no matter who gets in)

Its all a game to occupy the sheeple and let them THINK they have control when they REALLY DO NOT!

I agree with this opinion

inversedivinity
25-03-2012, 11:05 PM
There is no democracy, They just shuffle around peeps, fronts that the masses will accept. All over the west it is rife a stupid perpetuated myth of democracy.

The elites and aristocracy run the hegemony. But really there are no reptiles or ET's it is just corporations. It has always been corporations all throughout history. Some of these are run and owned by JEWS others by WASPs.

Judeio masonic alliance. But these do not harbour mystical powers they are merely ancient clubs founded by working people but then co-opted by the "elite" to be used as a tool. Religions are part of the equation too because it is a base of power. As Marx said it is the opium of the masses.

The Jesuits and Catholics are part of this game too. None of them specifically run the hegemony because they are all competing in a centuries old game. Jockeying for position and often they work together.

Because the "elite" bastards are godless heathens who would adopt any new ideal if it earned them control.

Icke and others are right on one thing. It is dynasties that have existed and ruled for a long time. Weather they have made in roads in Russia and China we shall see for if they have then they already rule the world.

No families should have such power indefinitely that is not democracy. The lie to propagate mass will for nefarious goals which are not mystical but is just as ancient. PROFIT!

bacnchee
26-03-2012, 03:02 AM
A really good point was made above and another reason to vote ron paul

think you missed the point :P

oiram
26-03-2012, 03:58 AM
A really good point was made above and another reason to vote ron paul

You forgot to place the word "not" in front or after the word to!!!

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Anyone needs any Politician like a hole in the head!

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bikerdruid
26-03-2012, 04:31 AM
A really good point was made above and another reason to vote ron paul

wow.
it's all a sham, dude.
ron paul is just another fucking politician.

decode reality
26-03-2012, 03:51 PM
Been watching fox news election coverage. Its obvious us politics is just like here in the uk. Doesnt matter who gets in they just follow the same agenda. One side supports the agenda and one opposes. And when they swop places, they swop roles. Doesnt matter whos in, same bull same agenda. The banks get richer, the masses get further in debt. Debts accumulate to bail out banks and fight illuminati wars we cant afford. Its such a charade. The election is a joke cause the democracy is a fake. All the things the oppose in opposition they support when they get in. Then the other side who previously supported the agenda, now oppose it. They must think we are really dumb. Except ppl are waking up and they don like it :)

Yes it's fake. They're as fake as televangelists.
Hang on...they ARE televangelists!

michaelsherlock
27-03-2012, 01:54 PM
Been watching fox news election coverage. Its obvious us politics is just like here in the uk. Doesnt matter who gets in they just follow the same agenda. One side supports the agenda and one opposes. And when they swop places, they swop roles. Doesnt matter whos in, same bull same agenda. The banks get richer, the masses get further in debt. Debts accumulate to bail out banks and fight illuminati wars we cant afford. Its such a charade. The election is a joke cause the democracy is a fake. All the things the oppose in opposition they support when they get in. Then the other side who previously supported the agenda, now oppose it. They must think we are really dumb. Except ppl are waking up and they don like it :)

I really like this post. I would recommend 2 of Chomsky's books in particular to give you sufficient ammunition to establish this idea to the point that it becomes hard for even the most loyal democratist to wiggle out;

1. Chomsky; Necessary Illusions.
2. Chomsky; Media Control: The Spectacular Achievements of Propaganda.

jon galt
27-03-2012, 02:40 PM
I don't think that democracy is fake as such. There two issues that i see.

one. In any democracy the biggest parties are going to be the ones that encompass the most voters, so the two biggest parties are going to have similar polices in a lot of areas. Any party that has specific issues , like a green party is not going to have the most voters as they push the specific issue ahead of anything else.

two. Capitalism by nature is exploitive. In order to compete you need to make the best quality goods at the cheapest price. In order to do this you need cheep labor and cheep resources. Not only that but in order for an industry, say car manufacturing, to be successful the customers also need access to cheep fuel. This economic situation again will lead different parties to adopt similar foreign policies.

The majority Voters in the west only vote for parties who promise to increase or at least maintain their standard of living. Add to that the only about half the people who can vote actually vote and there is also the issue of more people can potentially vote against (at least in the uk) a winning candidate than for.

Capitalism is based on greed and exploitation. In theory yes any one can become a millionaire or work their way up a corporation and that is the promise and its accepted that this is at others expense, those who play the game right win those who do not lose. The reality is that this system benefits a small proportion of the population, who are intent on accumulating money and resources. The more money that is accumulated the less there is in circulation. fe the bank bail outs went to balance the banks books, if that money was actually spent on something it would restart the economy. I read some economist who said that in recession a country should employ people to dig holes even if there is no need, that they spend money in shops, shops hire/pay wages and the economy gets moving.

enough of my rant in summery i believe capitalism is corrupt and any political system built around that is a symptom.

bikerdruid
27-03-2012, 05:45 PM
Capitalism is based on greed and exploitation....................... i believe capitalism is corrupt and any political system built around that is a symptom.

on these points we are in full agreement.

consciousness
27-03-2012, 08:06 PM
Been watching fox news election coverage. Its obvious us politics is just like here in the uk. Doesnt matter who gets in they just follow the same agenda. One side supports the agenda and one opposes. And when they swop places, they swop roles. Doesnt matter whos in, same bull same agenda. The banks get richer, the masses get further in debt. Debts accumulate to bail out banks and fight illuminati wars we cant afford. Its such a charade. The election is a joke cause the democracy is a fake. All the things the oppose in opposition they support when they get in. Then the other side who previously supported the agenda, now oppose it. They must think we are really dumb. Except ppl are waking up and they don like it :)

not only fake, it's non-existent. communism is driving basically every country.

jon galt
27-03-2012, 09:28 PM
not only fake, it's non-existent. communism is driving basically every country.

communism and democracy are not mutually exclusive.(although no communist democracy has existed) communism is at odds with capitalism, democracy is at odds with dictatorship.

believenothing
28-03-2012, 05:49 AM
"Give me control of a nations money supply, and I care not who makes it’s laws" - Amschel Rothchild

"You've heard of the golden rule, haven't you? Whoever has the gold makes the rules. [smiles showing his hideous teeth]" - Jafar, Disney's Aladdin

There is no such thing as democracy as long as an unelected cabal of organized criminals controls the money supply via the foreign private bank called the Federal Reserve (as Federal as FedEX), Wall Street, and all those various foreign policy and financial think thanks and fraternal organizations.

These banks lend 'their' money at interest. It's not backed by anything except so-called collateral which in comparison to what the money represents is worthless. Criminals print the money and they basically sell it to the US treasury. The debt can never be paid back because this is the same cabal all over the world doing the same thing. An illusion, a pyramid scheme. We should identify each and every one of them and bring out the guillotine.

As long as democracy is tied to the financial/capitalist aspect, it isn't democracy. The US is Republic for Christ's sake. A constitutional republic. Good look defending yourself from the draconian laws Congress keeps passing that usurp the US constitution.

Capitalism is a Jewish invention (seriously). A materialist and corrupt false/unfair/unjust/perverse version of commerce based on deception and lies. taking advantage of honest people and their empathy. It's a joke.

Even then, why the hell should my mom or my in-laws or my autistic cousin-in-law (who is eligible to vote) be allowed to have a say in who governs us? Why should the average dancing-with-the-stars fan glued-to-facebook sheep have a say in who runs the economy. Why should Snooki be able to vote? What the fuck does Snooki know? I doubt Snooki votes anyways, to be fair.

They shouldn't, they would elect fools. And that's what they do. The banksters are fools, they pay for fools that the fools foolishly vote for.

I just live here. I do not recognize the Zionist Occupied Government of the USA. AIPAC is not in my congress and neither is the congress they have chosen to represent congress. I don't care if they've game-theorized their way to the top. We will have the last laugh and it will be them begging us for the mercy they would never have the empathy to show to our kind. Wishful thinking? Maybe. But I have a feeling this will all fall like a house of cards. People will point fingers. We already have names. They will not escape our nooses.

You don't have to play by their rules, but we do have to play the game to win. If they won, our lives would be expendable. Do not let them ever take advantage of our souls and our mercy. Because they have no souls and would show us no mercy. We should not allow them to mingle among our normal kind and pretend that they are like us. That killing is bad. Killing is only bad when we're killing them? But when they're killing us it's collateral damage. Don't be a fool. Show no mercy. It's almost time to play