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typenicknamehere

17-02-2012, 09:08 PM

merlincove

17-02-2012, 09:44 PM

some questions about the extent of a reptilian possession over any given human.

Btw correct me if im missunderstanding a process or using the wrong terminology, these are some thoughts/questions of mine I dont expect every single question answered unless you could be bothered...

Some interesting points that you raise, typenicknamehere. i can only answer them as to my own understandings, others may have other / deeper understanding than i.

how much, if any...does the one being possessed retain their own thoughts and decision making? or is it a case of a 100% reptilian mind/soul occupying a walking human corpes?

It would depend on the depth of interaction. A none physical reppie in the lower astral may interact with a person fleetingly or deeply depending on the persons DNA capacity. The DNA is core to reptilian interaction, the purer the bloodline the = more compatible the DNA and a stronger connection.

The reptilian will be able to interact with a pure bloodline for longer periods.

In both cases the person will be able to think and act on their own, but the voice of the reptilian agent will guide their motivation and being to a high degree - think of it like the voice of conscience. With those of prolonged states of possession (those with compatible DNA and bloodlines) because the reppie is introduced at puberty (see my below posts) it would be extremely difficult to separate the human psyche with the reptilian psyche - and although individual thoughts and actions will be possible, the over-standing dominance of the reptilian mind-set will have a very strong presence.

for instance if I was to approach a person who has been hacked into by a reptilian would I be interacting with an interdimensional reptilian being? who knows they are actually using a human body but who is really from another dimension.

This would depend on the depth of the 'hack' - and certainly the environment that you interact with them.

As i have said above, the connections vary according to the prominence of the individual. If you were to meet an individual with a strong bloodline and reptilian connection and interact with them in either a negative or sexual way it is likely that the overbearing personality of the reppie will come to the fore as you are creating an energetic frequency that the reptilian can connect with, and in many instances feed upon. This would also be the case if you entered a sexual liaison with anyone who was prone to reppie connections - whether their connection to the lower fourth dimension was strong or weak.

when a reptilian exit's a human host, does the victum experience loss of time as an after effect?

No, i do not believe so - i think they are very aware of their surroundings and what they are doing - remember that the human brain is hard wired to the physical (through the human vehicle) and as such is aware of its actions.

when a compatible subject is born are they immediately possessed?, I mean do some people spend an entire lifetime possessed?,

No, i do not believe so. A human new born is too weak to withstand the reptilian connection. Typically a human host will be made aware of its reptilian facets after seven years (once a firm connection has been created with the earth reality through the awakening of the base chakra) but will not be 'merged' (see further comments) until the person is at least entering puberty - this is also connected with the 'awakening' of sexual awareness as the body starts to produce certain hormones etc. I would guess that without those hormones the human vehicle is less likely to connect with the reptilian form.

because I would have to imagine at some point that George Bush snr (if you assume for a moment that the conspiracy regarding George bush snr is true...) was once an innocent young child who laughed and loved and played like the rest of us until he became a victum of possession,

Yes, i would imagine that he did - but he would also have been primed from a young age.

and- what happened to his human soul or his thoughts and his mind, are they all suspended in time while he is under possession?

No, they are still there, but running as back-ground programs.

Think of the human vessel as a pint glass, the human soul occupies half of that glass, this is why the reptilian soul can integrate with its host.

does the reptilian leave a subjects body once he is satisfied that the subject Eg: george bush has played his part in society weather politically or otherwise?

Once the connection is made, typically with a ritual around puberty, the reptilian force is always present and the two can only be separated by death - and even then, when the human soul reincarnates, the process will begin again.

does the reptilian leave Georgie boys body to retire at 80 years of age post politics while completely confused and blanked about what has happened to him for the last 60 years of his life?

thanks

As above ;)

But i think in this case that George dubya Bush is certainly showing signs of a rejection of the reptilian mind-set and control as he enters senile dementia, perhaps due to an incompatibility that isn't present in his father.

Look at the queen mother, for instance, she was bright as a button till her physical form actually collapsed.

Hope that helps :)

typenicknamehere

17-02-2012, 10:54 PM

so its possible that someone could be so compatible to the point that they retain non of their own attributes and own thoughts because the level of possession and compatibility is so strong,

the subject's true self is so far out of the picture or behind the scenes similar to instances when exorcist's are required to remove an entity who has completely overtaken a victum, indeed could it be possible that all famous cases of possession and exorcisms are actually a result of 100% blood compatibility with a reptilian entity?

ufochick

18-02-2012, 06:00 AM

IN one of my last experiences I was taken to a reptilian enviroment, there were reptilians and humans there, it looked to be based on the old roman type empire. There I had a long conversation with a large reptilian. He was trying to convince me to give my will over to him and was making promise after promise, I would have ANYTHING I wanted for eternity. BUT I would reside in the realm we were in NOT in my physical body anymore. Obviously I refused, I was never even tempted honestly.

From this long involved encounter I believe that one the will is taken (by threats, torture, technology harrassment or bribery) the human leaves the physical body and spends however long, at least the human body span in this other realm. The human's physical body is then used by one or more reptilian entities until such time as it becomes useless I would assume.

I believe they can ride along with people who's vibration is close to theirs or the bloodliners who don't keep their vibration high.

fables429

18-02-2012, 10:30 AM

Ok so Reps are real... how do we fully expose them, is there a scientific way?

ufochick

18-02-2012, 02:03 PM

some questions about the extent of a reptilian possession over any given human.

Btw correct me if im missunderstanding a process or using the wrong terminology, these are some thoughts/questions of mine I dont expect every single question answered unless you could be bothered...
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I was in a rush earlier, here are the answers to your questions based on my experience of interdimensional reptilians.

how much, if any...does the one being possessed retain their own thoughts and decision making? or is it a case of a 100% reptilian mind/soul occupying a walking human corpes?

For the "ride alongs" or in and out possesssion, the amount of control depends on how strong the reptilian is, how much will the human has and how compatible the thought procesess are.
It is MY belief that many of the documented cases of killers beginning with small animals is an example of reptilian control. It is a program written in the human essense that we do not kill for no reason. So for the reptilian to have enough control to over ride this in a normal human (without drug use which makes it much easier for the reptilian to get control) in whom this tendency has not been nurtured, the rep. would begin to change this program with suggesting the pleasure/thrill/ spiritual experience of killing a small animal and go upwards from there.
Any tendency of a human towards a service to self life including all the traits cherished and honed by the reptilian makes it easier for the reptilian to gain control.
So the amount of control varies. For a very very strong willed individual the only sign may be a sudden mood change and behavior that shows reptilian traits that are not the person's normal behavior pattern. But yes the human regains some control unless by choice they relinquish it.

for instance if I was to approach a person who has been hacked into by a reptilian would I be interacting with an interdimentional reptilian being? who knows they are actually using a human body but who is really from another dimention.

Yes, the reptilian is aware like another personality sharing the body. The rep. knows who and what he is and what is going on.

when a reptilian exit's a human host, does the victum experience loss of time as an after effect?

Only if the person's will is so low that he/she allows the rep a lot of control and the things that happened during the ride along were so traumatic that the person blocks them out. Otherwise no.

when a compatible subject is born are they immediately possessed?, I mean do some people spend an entire lifetime possessed?,

No, until the child is sexually able to interact and receive energy from that act and has comtrol over certain situations they are not interested. Reps want control and energy. Now they may bounce in and out for very short periods I believe to prepare the child for later occupation and to change or guide the brain programs being formed. So the time when the ride alongs begins varies depending on each child's situation, personality and tendencies.
It is very very involved... fracturing and other technology can be used on young people to begin the breaking of their will early along with human/reptilian abuse, so that as soon as the child's body is ready to be an asset to a reptilian energy field/spirit it is available, see my above post.

because I would have to imagine at some point that George Bush snr (if you assume for a moment that the conspiracy regarding George bush snr is true...) was once an innocent young child who laughed and loved and played like the rest of us until he became a victum of possession,

and- what happened to his human soul or his thoughts and his mind, are they all suspended in time while he is under possession?

Yes and no, the more pure the DNA/bloodline of the human for reptilian use the more there are differences in the child. Our DNA contains programs we get from our parents, so there are behavioral traits that are more pronounced in bloodliner children.
When the child is broken enough to give in and consents to give up the body by whatever means (see above post) I cannot say what happens to the soul. I do not believe it ever returns to the body. The complete exchange of the body from being inhabited by a human energy field and a reptilian energy field is an event that gives the body to the reptilian. However in order to stay in the body there are rituals that must be conducted. It's actually a form of technology and energy exchange. Blood and sex rituals are common.

does the reptilian leave a subjects body once he is satisfied that the subject Eg: george bush has played his part in society weather politically or otherwise?

I think the above covers these.

does the reptilian leave Georgie boys body to retire at 80 years of age post politics while completly confused and blanked about what has happened to him for the last 60 years of his life?

thanks

I was in a rush earlier, here are the answers to your questions based on my experience of interdimensional reptilians.

ufochick

18-02-2012, 02:15 PM

Ok so Reps are real... how do we fully expose them, is there a scientific way?

Not that I know of. Those people who have not given up and allowed their body to be given over completely and permanently to a reptilian really have a good chance of changing to a point where the reptilian control is broken and they become who they really are, a beautiful human soul.

Another point is that if the situation has reached the point of complete takeover the "person" will require technolgy/energy/ritual to maintain themselves. These are the only Beings (basically half human half reptilian) who in my opinion are beyond help. The human soul has vacated, it won't be coming back.

So only those who are proved beyond a doubt to require the energy/technology/ritual, behave in every way as a reptilian and have been identified by those who can see the reptilian energy field should be considered non-human.

We do need a way to be absolutely sure which individuals these are before acting in any way towards them. To do less would put us on the same level as they are. Not a good thing.

typenicknamehere

19-02-2012, 09:01 AM

We do need a way to be absolutely sure which individuals these are before acting in any way towards them

is there a way either technologically or otherwise to measure levels of vibration in a person?... would an amazingly low vibration be any assurance that you are dealing with a reptilian?

consciousness

19-02-2012, 12:19 PM

James Bartley gives a lecture on reptilians, maybe OP will find it interesting

James Bartley - MILABS, & Reptilian Overlords 1/10 - YouTube

merlincove

19-02-2012, 12:29 PM

is there a way either technologically or otherwise to measure levels of vibration in a person?... would an amazingly low vibration be any assurance that you are dealing with a reptilian?

imo not necesarily. i have encountered reptilians with very high vibrations - this is not to say that these beings are negative.

Within all species, especially those that we percieve to be 'aware,' there are both negative and positive aspects (as well as all the stages inbetween) - what we consider 'enlightenment' is not only a human attribute.

ufochick

19-02-2012, 12:33 PM

typenicknamehere

20-02-2012, 05:58 AM

James Bartley gives a lecture on reptilians, maybe OP will find it interesting

James Bartley - MILABS, & Reptilian Overlords 1/10 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Kbl_tGwEc)

I have seen this video already thank you,

I wonder how many other planets and dimensions have races who are being possessed by reptilians, are they simply an elite universal bully who go around infecting planets and controlling whatever social or political structure is already in place?

it all makes me wonder,

is there an alien version of us forum dwellers and conspiracy enthusiasts somewhere on another planet who talk about the same reptilian influence on their lives and society?, if so- is there a race of beings who have become savvy to all this reptilian influence and made efforts to purify their world of reptilians..

are we a poor little planet of children plagued by reptilians while other more spiritually advanced beings sit back and watch us suffer?

how can any good force in the universe whether it be angels?, physical beings or gods sit back and let all this happen? makes you wonder if there is anyone or anything at all watching over us

iv always held the belief that no matter how bad things got in the physical world we could all find salvation and everlasting possibility and freedom together as one after physical death, but these reptiods seem to reside and have infiltrated every kind of physical and non physical existance.

are we all alone in an everlasting hell? is there no sacred spiritual "after" realm or place in which to reside that is beyond the reach of technology? if so then there is no god

ufochick

20-02-2012, 08:39 AM

I have seen this video already thank you,

I wonder how many other planets and dimensions have races who are being possessed by reptilians, are they simply an elite universal bully who go around infecting planets and controlling whatever social or political structure is already in place?

it all makes me wonder,

is there an alien version of us forum dwellers and conspiracy enthusiasts somewhere on another planet who talk about the same reptilian influence on their lives and society?, if so- is there a race of beings who have become savvy to all this reptilian influence and made efforts to purify their world of reptilians..

are we a poor little planet of children plagued by reptilians while other more spiritually advanced beings sit back and watch us suffer?

how can any good force in the universe whether it be angels?, physical beings or gods sit back and let all this happen? makes you wonder if there is anyone or anything at all watching over us

iv always held the belief that no matter how bad things got in the physical world we could all find salvation and everlasting possibility and freedom together as one after physical death, but these reptiods seem to reside and have infiltrated every kind of physical and non physical existance.

are we all alone in an everlasting hell? is there no sacred spiritual "after" realm or place in which to reside that is beyond the reach of technology? if so then there is no god

You took the words out of my mouth. I used to have a basic idea that the world was a place where we come to experience a certain kind of reality in order to learn new lessons and that there was an overseer of sorts that kept things balanced.
That theory left with the unbelievable physical/mental/energy abuse I underwent when the reps attacked me on every level, there was no reason for it like karma, I have led a basically service to others life.
If there was a God it would not have been allowed to continue. It went way beyond where I had learned the lessons I needed to learn. I don't know what this reality "IS" but I sure as shit don't like it here and there is nothing here to save us from anything.

typenicknamehere

20-02-2012, 09:02 AM

You took the words out of my mouth. I used to have a basic idea that the world was a place where we come to experience a certain kind of reality in order to learn new lessons and that there was an overseer of sorts that kept things balanced.
That theory left with the unbelievable physical/mental/energy abuse I underwent when the reps attacked me on every level, there was no reason for it like karma, I have led a basically service to others life.
If there was a God it would not have been allowed to continue. It went way beyond where I had learned the lessons I needed to learn. I don't know what this reality "IS" but I sure as shit don't like it here and there is nothing here to save us from anything.

but in your opinion can you rule out that death is not a salvation from these beings? I think its been discussed somewhere here before but for the record are you saying that reptilians reside in the afterlife and that sooner or later we will all either avoid them or encounter them when we are dead?

can you say for sure that your once temporary out of body experiences with these creatures will actually be a permanent experience when your body is finally dead and you cannot return to it?

are you scared then of what your experience will be like after this current experience is over?, is it going to be an eternal battle of wills whereby reptilians will have total access to you once you cannot find sanctuary in returning to your body?

and finally are you more likely to encounter these creatures in your afterlife because of your constant interaction with them throughout your life, as oppose to some like myself who has never seen or experienced them?