The Tribe Who Worship Prince Philip

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I'm sure this isn't news to a lot of people but I'd never heard of this until I watched An Idiot Abroad last night and Karl met the tribe.

Karl Pilkington on the Prince Philip Movement
Karl Pilkington on the Prince Philip Movement (An Idiot Abroad 2) - YouTube

Prince Philip at 90: Island tribe celebrate birthday of their god

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/865898-island-tribe-celebrate-birthday-of-their-god-prince-philip#ixzz1lQVwJjmc

People of the Yaohnanen tribe in Vanuatu reportedly believe the gaffe-prone husband of Queen Elizabeth is special to them and they host birthday celebrations for him every year, in the hope he'll come and visit.

The tribe, who live on the island of Tanna, think Prince Philip hails from their island originally and was born from the spirit of a local volcano - Yasur, reports Sky.

Legend has it that a white man emerged from the volcano and travelled overseas to marry a powerful monarch.

Queen Elizabeth and her husband stopped off in the then New Hebrides in 1974 and local men, including the Yaohnanen tribe's chief, rowed out to meet them.

Chief Jack died three years ago and was said to be very disappointed that their god did not return to the island, however, his grandson, Chief Siko, is confident he will come back one day.

'He is originally from Tanna. He was born here and he is a spirit being,' he told the news provider.

'We are sure that one day he will come back, and when he does we will organise a toka dance for him.'

The chief also had a birthday message for the prince: 'I say to him that all the villages here are preparing to meet him in 2012.'

Prince Philip said he will mark his 90th birthday by 'winding down' and relaxing a bit more.

The Queen's husband told the BBC he felt he had 'done his bit' and now was the time to reduce his royal workload.

[blackyblue]

At least they have a good sense of humour

[blackyblue]

On a more sinister note, Nostradamus predicted that a volcano would help the anti-christ come to power

http://www.nostradamusonline.com/sample_chapter.php

[ronisron]

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Just offer him some of the local children roasted over an open pit and he'll be there. Simple.

The Queen's stud. The sperm donor that is Philip.

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On a more sinister note, Nostradamus predicted that a volcano would help the anti-christ come to power

http://www.nostradamusonline.com/sample_chapter.php

To the people who believe Prince William is the anti-christ, this tribe's myth would tie in well, I guess, since the volcano gave rise to Philip and William is his grandson.

Just offer him some of the local children roasted over an open pit and he'll be there. Simple.

Philip seems to have actively encouraged this worship:

When the cult formed is unclear, but it is likely that it was sometime in the 1950s or 1960s. Their beliefs were strengthened by the royal couple's official visit to Vanuatu in 1974, when a few villagers had the opportunity to observe the Prince from afar. At the time the Prince was not aware of the cult, but the matter was eventually brought to his attention by John Champion, the British Resident Commissioner in Vanuatu between 1975 and 1978.

The Resident Commissioner suggested that the Prince send them a portrait of himself. A signed official photograph was duly dispatched. The villagers responded by sending a traditional nal-nal club. As requested the Prince in return sent them a photograph of himself posing with the weapon. Another photograph was sent in 2000. All three photographs were kept by Chief Jack Naiva, who died in 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip_Movement

- Formed mysteriously sometime in the 1950s or 1960s.

- When he visited in 1974 it's said: "the Prince was not aware of the cult" but that's surely a lie.

[vagrant]

it's an example of a cargo cult.

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it's an example of a cargo cult.

Thanks, I hadn't heard that phrase before:

Cargo cult - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

After reading Icke's books, I'm trying to think of this from the perspective of Philip really being a timeless 8-foot tall interdimensional Reptilian Draco overlord in disguise, and wondering if this doesn't have something to do with the Nagas who were said to have had an empire in the Pacific in the vicinity of Vanuatu back in the days of the Mahabharata

[vagrant]

...After reading Icke's books, I'm trying to think of this from the perspective of Philip really being a timeless 8-foot tall interdimensional Reptilian Draco overlord in disguise, and wondering if this doesn't have something to do with the Nagas who were said to have had an empire in the Pacific in the vicinity of Vanuatu back in the days of the Mahabharata

probably

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Waiting For Philip
Waiting For Philip - Vanuatu - YouTube
14 min

"In the past 100 years the British monarchy has lost a lot of its shine. However, in a tiny corner of the South Pacific, one royal is worshipped. A far cry from Britain's most controversial prince...

The locals of Tanna eagerly await the return of Prince Philip, who they believe is an ancestral spirit who emerged from a volcano to marry the queen. "According to a prophecy, the spirit who became Prince Philip is due to return". In anticipation, his 89th birthday saw the island irrupt in celebration, and although the 'second coming' never happened the villagers spirits aren't dampened. "One day his spirit will come and rest here".

[lakkimakki]

I'm sure this isn't news to a lot of people but I'd never heard of this until I watched An Idiot Abroad last night and Karl met the tribe.

Karl Pilkington on the Prince Philip Movement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95zTiEqUXQI

LOL.... Long live prince philip !!!:D

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Waiting For Philip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_QIsohU7NY
14 min

"In the past 100 years the British monarchy has lost a lot of its shine. However, in a tiny corner of the South Pacific, one royal is worshipped. A far cry from Britain's most controversial prince...

The locals of Tanna eagerly await the return of Prince Philip, who they believe is an ancestral spirit who emerged from a volcano to marry the queen. "According to a prophecy, the spirit who became Prince Philip is due to return". In anticipation, his 89th birthday saw the island irrupt in celebration, and although the 'second coming' never happened the villagers spirits aren't dampened. "One day his spirit will come and rest here".

Beginning at 2:29...

Reporter: The Duke of Edinburgh is aware of his exalted status on Tanna. Over the past twenty years he's been a discreet accomplice in the cult that's grown up around him, sending photos and receiving the occasional gift.

Chief: Some people say he is from England or Greece. But our grandfathers carved this club for pig-killing and sent it off with a message: if you are from Tanna hold this club in your hand.

- We then see a photo Philip has sent the tribe of himself staring earnestly back at the camera holding the club in his hand.

What an incredible act of misanthropic bastardry on Philip's part to willingly exploit the tribe's good faith and naivete by deceiving them into believing he was who they thought he was in that way.

Assuming that is, he wasn't deadly serious...

[302bluefog]

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Where did they get those pictures from?

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Where did they get those pictures from?

At least some of them were sent by the Duke himself if you watch the above mini-documentary.

[cagedlion]

Waiting For Philip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_QIsohU7NY
14 min

"In the past 100 years the British monarchy has lost a lot of its shine. However, in a tiny corner of the South Pacific, one royal is worshipped. A far cry from Britain's most controversial prince...

The locals of Tanna eagerly await the return of Prince Philip, who they believe is an ancestral spirit who emerged from a volcano to marry the queen. "According to a prophecy, the spirit who became Prince Philip is due to return". In anticipation, his 89th birthday saw the island irrupt in celebration, and although the 'second coming' never happened the villagers spirits aren't dampened. "One day his spirit will come and rest here".

That's incredible! I've never seen that before.

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That's incredible! I've never seen that before.

It is, yeah.

At first glance the story is a bit of a "bwahaha, stupid natives think Prince Philip is a god!", but the more you look into it the more you find that the worship has been given the Royal stamp of approval, to the point where a group of representatives from the Tanna tribe actually met him at Buckingham Palace:

http://i44.tinypic.com/12554wj.jpg

Also, the tribesmen understand full well that he was born in Greece and believe that the spirit of the volcano inhabited his body at birth.

This is all pretty intriguing stuff when you consider what Icke has had to say about Prince Philip's real identity.

Even the most ardent skeptic has to admit it's not all that much of a stretch to imagine that this repugnant old mummy might in reality be animated from within by something very dark and ancient:

http://i44.tinypic.com/ir2ctl.jpg

[zegzy]

Even the most ardent skeptic has to admit it's not all that much of a stretch to imagine that this repugnant old mummy might in reality be animated from within by something very dark and ancient:

http://i44.tinypic.com/ir2ctl.jpg

If he is possessed, i will admit only that whatever it is that possesses him has an extremely repugnant sense of humor. :D

[humanspirit]

Mugs!

[rhydra]

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He still looks like an old German to me though... :confused:

[zegzy]

He still looks like an old German to me though... :confused:

You can take the genes out of Germany but you cannot take the German out of their genes. ;)

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He still looks like an old German to me though... :confused:

http://i40.tinypic.com/jiid60.jpg
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=199613

Mugs!

Maybe, but when an 18 year-old guy from Edinburgh takes the time to learn the tribe's language so he can mysteriously and conveniently interrupt their ritual on the day they expect Philip to return, then acts as his spokesman, explaining his non-appearance in order that the worshippers not lose faith, you have to wonder if they might be royally-manipulated mugs.

9:37 min. mark onwards:

Waiting For Philip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_QIsohU7NY

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The Tanna tribe representatives meet Prince Philip - in private*...

2:20 min. mark:

Meet The Natives 17
Meet The Natives 17 - YouTube

* The documentary editing emphasises the privacy of this meeting by pausing for a few moments on silent shots of the closed palace doors.

Interviewed outside, the tribesman are then seen practically bursting with joy-juice after having received His message to them.

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All the online summaries of the Prince Philip Movement state the same thing: it's beginnings are unclear, but that it likely formed 'sometime in the 1950s or 1960s.'

It's a case of the same source quote being repeated everywhere until it becomes 'fact'.

But the vague approximation of that original source indicates a perfunctory guess was made that the Queen's coronation must have been the catalyst for the cult's creation, since this was when Philip fulfilled the prophecy of 'marrying the foreign Queen' in the eyes of the Tanna tribe.

When you look at the more detailed history of the Tanna tribe's related 'cargo cult', John Frum, however, a clearer picture emerges of how the worship of Prince Philip probably arose.

John Frum (or Jon Frum, or John From) is a figure associated with cargo cults on the island of Tanna in Vanuatu. He is often depicted as an American World War II serviceman, who will bring wealth and prosperity to the people if they follow him. He is sometimes portrayed as black, sometimes as white; from David Attenborough's report of an encounter: "'E look like you. 'E got white face. 'E tall man. 'E live 'long South America."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Frum

Immediately obvious from the words of the tribesman to David Attenborough, is that these cargo cults aren't merely the result of gobsmacked primitives misinterpreting western technology as 'magic' and fabricating gods from nothing by projecting magical powers onto modern westerners; "John Frum" is a recent, anglicised label for a figure who originated in South America - a tall, white man who 'live long'.

[vagrant]

..... "John Frum" is a recent, anglicised label for a figure who originated in South America - a tall, white man who 'live long'.


Graham Hancock's Quetzalcoatl, from his Fingerprint of the Gods.

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Graham Hancock's Quetzalcoatl, from his Fingerprint of the Gods.

Bingo. ;)

[ponzi nemesis]

Waiting For Philip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_QIsohU7NY
14 min

"In the past 100 years the British monarchy has lost a lot of its shine. However, in a tiny corner of the South Pacific, one royal is worshipped. A far cry from Britain's most controversial prince...

The locals of Tanna eagerly await the return of Prince Philip, who they believe is an ancestral spirit who emerged from a volcano to marry the queen. "According to a prophecy, the spirit who became Prince Philip is due to return". In anticipation, his 89th birthday saw the island irrupt in celebration, and although the 'second coming' never happened the villagers spirits aren't dampened. "One day his spirit will come and rest here".

That video is amazing; when the young Scottish chap turns up wearing nothing but a penis gourd and speaking the local language it really seemed like it was a spoof! Listening to what he was saying I realised that the language being used is in fact a creole based on English.

At moments like that, as I watched the video, life seems like a dream, literally; surreal, absurd. The fact that I have also come to the conclusion that this is, in fact, the best explanation for many aspects of the nature of reality comes to mind; it's as though from logic on one side and from experience on the other our ideas of anything being 'real', 'making sense', are gradually being eroded.

Anyway thanks for posting the link, I really enjoyed watching it! :D

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After you've read Graham Hancock's comprehensive reconstruction of the legend in Fingerprints of the Gods, it's logical to equate the "white face...tall man...live 'long South America" description by the Tannans of their culture hero "John Frum," with the Mesoamerican god, Quetzalcoatl.

According to Hancock, Quetzalcoatl - who introduced agriculture, religion and customs to the natives - was venerated as a mostly benevolent figure.

Though it's easy to conclude that his presence in South America had a largely positive impact on the people due to the civilising influence of his teachings, it's worth bearing in mind his capacity for occasional, terrifying displays of power when his objectives or physical person were at times threatened by local challengers, and also worth reflecting on the ambiguous nature of his true motives; essentially all we know is that he wanted to reshape - or manipulate - Mesoamerica according to his own will and was prepared to use force to ensure that outcome prevailed.

Similar questions of intent and manipulation arise when you look at the implications for the Tannans, resulting from the message given to them by their Quetzalcoatl-equivalent, 'John Frum':

In some versions of the story, a native named Manehivi, under the alias "John Frum", began appearing among the native people of Tanna while dressed in a Western coat, making promises of houses, clothes, food, and transport. Others contend that John Frum was a kava-induced spirit vision. Said to be a manifestation of Keraperamun, John Frum promised the dawn of a new age, in which all white people, including missionaries, would leave the New Hebrides, and that the native Melanesians would gain access to the material wealth that white people enjoyed. For this to happen, however, the people of Tanna had to reject all aspects of European society (money, Western education, Christianity, work on copra plantations) and return to traditional kastom (a word for native Tannese customs).

Was that positive, holistic advice from a benevolent god, or the trick of a manipulative spirit to perpetually suppress a native population so that westerners could exploit it's natural resources unhindered?

[lakkimakki]

http://i40.tinypic.com/jiid60.jpg
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=199613



Maybe, but when an 18 year-old guy from Edinburgh takes the time to learn the tribe's language so he can mysteriously and conveniently interrupt their ritual on the day they expect Philip to return, then acts as his spokesman, explaining his non-appearance in order that the worshippers not lose faith, you have to wonder if they might be royally-manipulated mugs.

9:37 min. mark onwards:

lol thats one living corpse.:D

Reminds me of this guy.

http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/mib_065VincentDOnofrio.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Eq4DUA_sLKE/Sei2KbvP6CI/AAAAAAAAAs8/LNlqF-WWygs/s400/men-in-black.jpg

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Contrary to the cartoonish reductionism of sneering assclowns like Richard Dawkins, 'cargo cults' are not examples of isolated societies inventing new religions by misinterpreting the technological prowess of external cultures.

For instance, while it's surmised that the name "John Frum" may be a derivation of "John from" and is meant to refer to US servicemen (John being from America), the following passage indicates that the origin of this alleged idolatory was either a western confidence trick by proxy, or resulted from the genuine spiritual possession of a local native:

In some versions of the story, a native named Manehivi, under the alias "John Frum", began appearing among the native people of Tanna while dressed in a Western coat, making promises of houses, clothes, food, and transport.

Whichever was the case, the fact remains that 'John Frum' is only a recent surface manifestation of something much older that is firmly-rooted in indigenous beliefs:

The movement was heavily influenced by existing religious practice in the Sulphur Bay area of Tanna, particularly the worship of Keraperamun, a god associated with Mount Tukosmera, Tanna's highest mountain.

Others contend that John Frum was a kava-induced spirit vision. Said to be a manifestation of Keraperamun

So John Frum is really the ancient Tannan god Keraperamun, and Keraperamun, in one of his incarnations, was described to David Attenborough as being a tall white man from South America who lived a long time - exactly the description we have for Quetzalcoatl.

Although I haven't been able to find his specific name yet, the volcano spirit which the Tannans believe inhabits the body of Prince Philip, is Keraperamun's brother.

Interesting, when you consider who Quetzalcoatl's twin brother was...

[rhydra]

Interesting that the name Quetzalcoatl has come up because the Mormons believe that Quetzalcoatl was a manifestation of Jesus. Guess what the religion of the possible next President of the United States is. :D

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- So 'John Frum' is really the ancient Tannan god Keraperamun...

- Described as being a tall white man from South America who lived a long time - exactly the description we have for Quetzalcoatl.

- The volcano spirit which the Tannans believe inhabits the body of Prince Philip, is Keraperamun's brother.

- Interesting, when you consider who Quetzalcoatl's twin brother was...


Appropriately...

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XOLOTL (pron. "Show-lootle")

In Aztec mythology, Xolotl was the god with associations to both lightning and death.

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Xolotl was also the god of fire and of bad luck. He was the twin of Quetzalcoatl, the pair being sons of the virgin Coatlicue, and was the dark personification of Venus, the evening star. He guarded the sun when it went through the underworld at night. He also assisted Quetzalcoatl in bringing humankind and fire from the underworld.

In art, Xolotl was depicted as a skeleton, a dog-headed man or a monster animal with reversed feet. He was also the patron of the Mesoamerican ballgame. He is identified with Xocotl as being the Aztec god of fire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xolotl

God of fire. Bringer of fire from the underworld.

Sounds a lot like Philip, the volcano god of Vanuatu, doesn't it?

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"Got a light?"



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"Who else would you expect me to marry in your world?"



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That video is amazing; when the young Scottish chap turns up wearing nothing but a penis gourd and speaking the local language it really seemed like it was a spoof! Listening to what he was saying I realised that the language being used is in fact a creole based on English.

At moments like that, as I watched the video, life seems like a dream, literally; surreal, absurd. The fact that I have also come to the conclusion that this is, in fact, the best explanation for many aspects of the nature of reality comes to mind; it's as though from logic on one side and from experience on the other our ideas of anything being 'real', 'making sense', are gradually being eroded.

Well said.

I'd like to find out more about who this Scottish kid really is; he seemed very self-assured and in control of the situation to me, almost like he was on official duty.

Naturally that would have to be concealed, and making it appear that these were just the spontaneous actions of a cheeky, but sympathetic teenager on a gap year, would be a perfect cover.

Remembering that Philip actively encouraged the tribe to believe he was this volcano spirit by performing the specific ritual they asked him to perform (being photographed holding the tribal club they sent him), makes me seriously suspect the teenager from Edinburgh was his official envoy.

lol thats one living corpse.:D

Reminds me of this guy.

http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/mib_065VincentDOnofrio.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Eq4DUA_sLKE/Sei2KbvP6CI/AAAAAAAAAs8/LNlqF-WWygs/s400/men-in-black.jpg

Haha. Probably accurate.

Philip and the Queen's first date:
Edgar from Men in Black - YouTube

"Give me sugar. In water."

Interesting that the name Quetzalcoatl has come up because the Mormons believe that Quetzalcoatl was a manifestation of Jesus. Guess what the religion of the possible next President of the United States is. :D

Yeah, the Mormons are just squatting out there in the desert, quietly guarding that child-molesting beehive in the basement...

...they've got something big and horrible planned for one of these days methinks...

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It is, yeah.

At first glance the story is a bit of a "bwahaha, stupid natives think Prince Philip is a god!", but the more you look into it the more you find that the worship has been given the Royal stamp of approval, to the point where a group of representatives from the Tanna tribe actually met him at Buckingham Palace:

http://i44.tinypic.com/12554wj.jpg

Just noticed that the above photo I posted showing Prince Phillip in a private meeting at Buckingham Palace with the Vanuatuan tribesmen who believe his body is inhabited by the spirit god of a volcano, has been deleted by tinypic.

I can't remember the last time that happened to me, if ever.

Either somebody Royal-related doesn't want this photo used in the context I'm describing it on this thread, or the An Idiot Abroad producers requested it be removed for copyright reasons since it's a screenshot from the episode where Karl meets the tribe.

- If it's the Gervais team, leave it up boys, it constitutes fair use! ;)

And if it's Prince Philip...well let's just repost it first and see if it's still here in a few days:

http://i44.tinypic.com/14luctf.jpg

[martg]

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He still looks like an old German to me though... :confused:

looks like a testicle to me!

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looks like a testicle to me!

Yep. The kind that pops out the side of a pair of tight shorts when you sit down too quickly on a hot day.

[martg]

Yep. The kind that pops out the side of a pair of tight shorts when you sit down too quickly on a hot day.
:D