is Ian R Crane credible?

[sweeping_meteor]

i've heard bits and peice about him but not a lot.

i just heard that he is going to be speaking in belfast soona dn i was looking to know has anyone heard him and is he informed?

here is the link to his shows. http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=355
just wondering if anyone else is going or have heard him before


thanks

anto

[blahblah]

No..

Never trusted him..He's part of 'it'

Too many 'in' jobs throughout his career...too closely related to the Elite companies and governments..

[nirvana]

You will proboly find out 99% of conspiracy that is on these boards have come from the elite to spoon feed the truth sheep:rolleyes:

If they elite can create religeons,banks,etc they can create conspiracy aswel.;)

[wake_up_bomb]

If you've been something of an insider then you're obviously a tool of the elite, if you haven't been involved directly in any of the things you write or speak of then you don't know what you're talking about.

You can't win really...

[thommo]

I've seen quite a lot of his stuff. He is good, informative but is very much into exopolitics. He has useful information so it's always worthwhile listening irrespective of what you may think of him as a person. :)

[martg]

You will proboly find out 99% of conspiracy that is on these boards have come from the elite to spoon feed the truth sheep:rolleyes:

If they elite can create religeons,banks,etc they can create conspiracy aswel.;)

No doubt, I'm not sure if any of these researchers are willing tools of the PTB but they are still alive because they are doing exactly what the inner core want.

as for I.R.C. his exposé of the gulf oil spill was the most in depth out there.

[sweeping_meteor]

thanks guys.
same question goes out about foster gamble and his thrive stuff.

i suppose there is a bit of truth in wat everyone says im just immediatly sceptical about oil barons and big drug company family members talking.

theres enuf bull to wade thru without being deliberatly fed more rto be distarcted

[totallybonkers]

I have to say, I do have my suspicions, something doesn't seem quite right, but regardless I'm all for him speaking, making presentations and so on. I would go and see his presenations if local too so he can't be all that bad.

[ceti]

35 fucking quid for him to tell you how fucked you are.Keep it take some acid use the cash for petrol drive into nature and trip your balls off.Much more fun.

[nongeekywebdude]

he has always struck me as "overly commercial", whether his talks are worth going to I don't know, have only ever seen him on youtube etc. But at £35 a ticket I would very much doubt its worth it, the info presented would have to be absolutely amazing and not available anywhere else, but that goes for others too, not just Mr Crane.

Has anyone been to one of his talks around the country? Perhaps they could chime in with their thoughts on "value".

[nirvana]

No doubt, I'm not sure if any of these researchers are willing tools of the PTB but they are still alive because they are doing exactly what the inner core want.

as for I.R.C. his exposé of the gulf oil spill was the most in depth out there.

Your right many of the researchers will not willingly be tools of the elite . But if they were telling the real truth ,they would of gone the same way as Dr kelly.

Dangerous business telling the real truth.;)

[nirvana]

35 fucking quid for him to tell you how fucked you are.Keep it take some acid use the cash for petrol drive into nature and trip your balls off.Much more fun.


All researchers do this for a living its there business. Car sales men sells cars researchers sells conspiracy.

Conspiracy is a corporation like every other corporation.

[nirvana]

he has always struck me as "overly commercial", whether his talks are worth going to I don't know, have only ever seen him on youtube etc. But at £35 a ticket I would very much doubt its worth it, the info presented would have to be absolutely amazing and not available anywhere else, but that goes for others too, not just Mr Crane.

Has anyone been to one of his talks around the country? Perhaps they could chime in with their thoughts on "value".


There is nothing wrong with charging £35 for tickets this is what he does for a living.

The truth industry is just like every other industry. Its all business.

[ceti]

All researchers do this for a living its there business. Car sales men sells cars researchers sells conspiracy.

Conspiracy is a corporation like every other corporation.

Price tags on information is part of are silly problems.

[nirvana]

Price tags on information is part of are silly problems.

The awakening and truth movement is an industry ;) .It is proboly the industry part which is being used as a block for solutions.:o

Its funny how certain researchers will tell you money is illusion its worthless but will not let you through the door without it:D

Reminds me when alex jones was selling an expensive dvd set through his website about how to live without money etc.:D

[nongeekywebdude]

There is nothing wrong with charging £35 for tickets this is what he does for a living.

The truth industry is just like every other industry. Its all business.

It all depends on the content of the talks as I said, if this is revolutionary, original material never before heard or seen, then maybe some would feel its worth £35, on the other hand if its all stuff readily available on youtube or other sources, then its £35 down the drain. Thats why I asked for those who had paid to see him previously to chime in with thoughts on the value of his presentations.

Of course some may feel that £35 for a pleasant afternoon listening to the same old conspiracy stuff and surrounded by like minds is worth it, I'm not one of those. A the end of the day I suppose its up to the individuals whether they think its worth it or not

[freedom1st]

I don't trust any of them. And most of the info is put out by tptb. This world is a mindfuck until you see the patterns.

[lesleypumpshaft]

The awakening and truth movement is an industry ;) .It is proboly the industry part which is being used as a block for solutions.:o

Its funny how certain researchers will tell you money is illusion its worthless but will not let you through the door without it:D

Reminds me when alex jones was selling an expensive dvd set through his website about how to live without money etc.:D

I've often wondered about that. I think some do concessions for unemployed and oap.

[cafe beelzebub]

I've seen him talk, he did a two hour presentation on a 3 day convention I went to last year. Of the 20 speakers or so I saw talk he was by far the best. He is similar to David in the respect that he talks about the global power structure, he also goes into other realms.. for example he is big into consciousness and shamanism, DMT experiences and so on. He also talks about the UFO phenomenon.

There is a lot of overlap with the topics Icke covers.

He is a very entertaining and passionate speaker. I can definitely recommend seeing him. I think £35 is expensive though.

[cafe beelzebub]

I don't trust any of them. And most of the info is put out by tptb. This world is a mindfuck until you see the patterns.

Do you think most of the info David Icke has put out in the last 20 years has been put out by tptb?

How would having any of this information out benefit tptb?

[dr steam]

"Is Ian R Crane credible?"

If the question is because he is not talking about supernatural events, meetings and conversations with aliens just like Jordan Maxwell for example, then my answer is yes.

Joking aside:rolleyes:

I have not encountered anything in Mr Crane`s lectures which would cause me to perceive him as untrustworthy

[blahblah]

Still think he is part of 'it'..

An elite tool...

Don't trust anyone but yourself...

[corruptus in extremis]

I saw him speak at the Wake Up Conference in Kirkcaldy, Scotland a few years ago and thought he was pretty good.

Just like any researcher, You have to sift through the shite to get to the gold.

[saty]

No.
After rick clay was murdered he went off saying how it was a suicide bla bla bla.Everyone with a brain knows he was silenced.

[lizzy]

You will proboly find out 99% of conspiracy that is on these boards have come from the elite to spoon feed the truth sheep:rolleyes:

If they elite can create religeons,banks,etc they can create conspiracy aswel.;)

nirvana .....that is the conclusion i've come to as well :cool:

[lizzy]

No.
After rick clay was murdered he went off saying how it was a suicide bla bla bla.Everyone with a brain knows he was silenced.

I remember that....but once they go ufo / new agey , I get a little suss but that's just me . I think he's done some good stuff.

[lizzy]

I saw him speak at the Wake Up Conference in Kirkcaldy, Scotland a few years ago and thought he was pretty good.

Just like any researcher, You have to sift through the shite to get to the gold.

yep,....that's it.

[timelord]

Ian is brilliant, a lovely guy who will talk to anyone and everyone too. He remembered me from one talk to another, so I was well pleased!

His talks are fascinating and cover a great deal and his DVDs are a good buy as well.

[theabbot 7]

any news on this guy

[horseflesh]

any news on this guy

Ex MI5 officer David Shayler, AKA Delores Kane, says Ian Crane is the devil.

SHAYLER-ANNOUNCES THE DEVIL - EDGE MEDIA TV SKY - IAN R CRANE - YouTube

David Shayler and Delores Kane

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/shayler-415x275.jpg