Doctor alleges plans to "Microchip" Newborns

[serpentoffire]

Compiled by Lucien Desjardins

Regarding plans to microchip newborns, Dr. Kilde said the U.S. has been moving in this direction "in secrecy."

She added that in Sweden, Prime Minister Olof Palme gave permission in 1973 to implant prisoners, and Data Inspection's ex-Director General Jan Freese revealed that nursing-home patients were implanted in the mid-1980s. The technology is revealed in the 1972:47 Swedish state report, Statens Officiella Utradninger.

Are you prepared to live in a world in which every newborn baby is micro-chipped? And finally are you ready to have your every move tracked, recorded and placed in Big Brother's data bank? According to the Finnish article, distributed to doctors and medical students, time is running out for changing the direction of military medicine and mind control technology, ensuring the future of human freedom.

"Implanted human beings can be followed anywhere. Their brain functions can be remotely monitored by supercomputers and even altered through the changing of frequencies," wrote Dr. Kilde. "Guinea pigs in secret experiments have included prisoners, soldiers, mental patients,handicapped children, deaf and blind people, homosexuals, single women, the elderly, school children, and any group of people considered "marginal" by the elite experimenters. The published experiences of prisoners in Utah State Prison, for example, are shocking to the conscience.

"Today's microchips operate by means of low-frequency radio waves that target them. With the help of satellites, the implanted person can be tracked anywhere on the globe. Such a technique was among a number tested in the Iraq war, according to Dr. Carl Sanders, who invented the intelligence-manned interface (IMI) biotic, which is injected into people. (Earlier during the Vietnam War, soldiers were injected with the Rambo chip, designed to increase adrenaline flow into the bloodstream.) The 20-billion-bit/second supercomputers at the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) could now "see and hear" what soldiers experience in the battlefield with a remote monitoring system (RMS).

"When a 5-micromillimeter microchip (the diameter of a strand of hair is 50 micromillimeters) is placed into optical nerve of the eye,", Dr. Kilde indicates "it draws neuro-impulses from the brain that embody the experiences, smells, sights, and voice of the implanted person. Once transferred and stored in a computer, these neuro-impulses can be projected back to the person's brain via the microchip to be re-experienced. Using a RMS, a land-based computer operator can send electromagnetic messages (encoded as signals) to the nervous system, affecting the target's performance. With RMS, healthy persons can be induced to see hallucinations and to hear voices in their heads. "

"Every thought, reaction, hearing, and visual observation causes a certain neurological potential, spikes, and patterns in the brain and its electromagnetic fields, which can now be decoded into thoughts, pictures, and voices, " Dr. Kilde adds. "Electromagnetic stimulation can therefore change a person's brainwaves and affect muscular activity, causing painful muscular cramps experienced as torture."

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/01/08/01290.html

[marpat]

Do you really think that this is possible? here in Britain we live in a country in which the health service is collasping through lack of money but to impant every child would mean millions of surgical proceedures, more surgical wards (at a time when hospitals are closing), more medical staff (which are also on the decrease), and huge amounts of cash, backed up by an enormous network of computers, transmitters and receivers. Yes, you need to send the info back to the control point if this is to work. You may think the mobile phone network could be used but the bandwidth would just not be enough for all those people.
The logistics of this concept are so enormous that I believe they are not possible. How many thoughts and impulses do you have in a day? multiply that by the multiple millions of people who would be chipped and you have a real data storage crisis. The storage servers would have to be increased by huge amounts every day to have any chance of holding such data. Most of the data would be pointless crap as well.
I am not saying technology is not at that level but I really doubt it could be used on such a broad level.

[serpentoffire]

Frankly I don't know the logistic impact but somebody affirm that they will use vaccinations for pandemics, spread before using biological spry from airplanes.

Onother hypotesis says that the microcipping will be requested directly by population to access to credit, offices, discotheques and so on. Similarly to "Minority report" movie.

I know that there are a lot of experiments in this direction.

[kblood]

Frankly I don't know the logistic impact but somebody affirm that they will use vaccinations for pandemics, spread before using biological spry from airplanes.

Onother hypotesis says that the microcipping will be requested directly by population to access to credit, offices, discotheques and so on. Similarly to "Minority report" movie.

I know that there are a lot of experiments in this direction.

True, at least in the just making a chip capable of replacing everything. Problem is that it doesnt do much to spread out the risk of breakdown. Sorry, your chip burnt out, you are now nobody. Have a nice day.

No drivers licence, no id, no credit, no...

But then, such a system still seems impropable to me, but I guess it isnt necesarily so. However it will be made, it sure is going to have some nasty "child diseases". There is so much that cannot be taken into account if they are going to place these chips in everyone. How to avoid the body simply rejecting it? Allergies? The list just goes on and on. Anyone seen "Ghost in the Shell"? If that was to become true, and alot of it seems likely, then some kind of chips in the head would probably be a logical step in our evolution.

It would simply make it easier to replace parts of the body, or to heal the body. Problem is how unnatural it is.

[marpat]

What I don't get really is why any ruling class would need to go to all this trouble to control a population. They could just stick a dictator in power and use fear, which has been used successfully throughout history and in the modern world.
The trouble with technology is that it is not perfect. It goes wrong, it's needs repairing, people learn how to get around it. If such chips were stuck into people it wold not be long before people were hacking them, destroying them, etc.
Also, spraying stuff about. It is so random that is is not really a long term solution. If any bug was sprayed into the air then the wind could carry it a long way from it's intended destination. But the question would have to be why?

[numbersix]

Quote ''Today's microchips operate by means of low-frequency radio waves that target them. With the help of satellites, the implanted person can be tracked anywhere on the globe.''

Surely this can already be done by tracking our mobile phones if so desired

Also I read that the technology now exists to single out an individual person form a satellite above and also eavesdrop on conversations...

Take a look at Google earth where you can see your own house from a satellite and then think how much more sophisticated the governments image and tracking quality must be...

[marpat]

Quote ''Today's microchips operate by means of low-frequency radio waves that target them. With the help of satellites, the implanted person can be tracked anywhere on the globe.''

Surely this can already be done by tracking our mobile phones if so desired

Also I read that the technology now exists to single out an individual person form a satellite above and also eavesdrop on conversations...

Take a look at Google earth where you can see your own house from a satellite and then think how much more sophisticated the governments image and tracking quality must be...


It may be possible to do that but the practical scale of implanting every person would be too much I believe. Who would it be better to chip, the few in government who need to conform to an agenda or the masses who can be ruled by fear and force? I reckon that controlling the politicians would be a higher priority as they can wreck any agenda by exposing information, ruining long planned events, etc. Personally I don't care if my phone can be tracked as I hardly take it anywhere. I don't do anything that was worth spying on so that return would not justify the effort for spying.

[serpentoffire]

Visit Alex Jones web site to know more about microchipping

http://infowars.com/cashless_society.htm#microchips

http://infowars.com/headline_photos/April/implantable.jpg http://infowars.com/headline_photos/April/verichip2.jpg

[optimus pigpot]

Do you really think that this is possible? here in Britain we live in a country in which the health service is collasping through lack of money but to impant every child would mean millions of surgical proceedures, more surgical wards (at a time when hospitals are closing), more medical staff (which are also on the decrease), and huge amounts of cash, backed up by an enormous network of computers, transmitters and receivers. Yes, you need to send the info back to the control point if this is to work. You may think the mobile phone network could be used but the bandwidth would just not be enough for all those people.
The logistics of this concept are so enormous that I believe they are not possible. How many thoughts and impulses do you have in a day? multiply that by the multiple millions of people who would be chipped and you have a real data storage crisis. The storage servers would have to be increased by huge amounts every day to have any chance of holding such data. Most of the data would be pointless crap as well.
I am not saying technology is not at that level but I really doubt it could be used on such a broad level.

You are still reading what the media tell you. Economics, balance of trade and national debts are all but more tools which they control the publics minds. They are just that and no more.

So when the government of the day tells us that the health service is facing a cash crisis people generally believe them.

There is no crisis anywhere that cannot be solved instantaniously, only that we are led to believe that they can by government or not at all.

The technology you speak of is the technology that "they" tell you they have.

"They" are far beyond that. See Philadelphia experiment and all the rest. If one is not true then that leaves countless others that suggest "they" are far further into the future than we would believe.

The logistics that you speak of are very easy to control. For example a cold war that lasted for around forty years AND they were both said to be on opposite sides.

Everybody believed them then.

Do you honestly think that THIS is not possible. Look inside yourself and think some more.

I have a lot of respect for your posts bro'.

I look forward to hearing from you.......

Optimus p.

[optimus pigpot]

It may be possible to do that but the practical scale of implanting every person would be too much I believe. Who would it be better to chip, the few in government who need to conform to an agenda or the masses who can be ruled by fear and force? I reckon that controlling the politicians would be a higher priority as they can wreck any agenda by exposing information, ruining long planned events, etc. Personally I don't care if my phone can be tracked as I hardly take it anywhere. I don't do anything that was worth spying on so that return would not justify the effort for spying.

.... that you're not tracked now??????

Just a question..........

[chicken]

Everyone is tracked now - how?

celldar
what you buy where you buy it
What you say in a doctors room is not private totally - people have access to that system - national - centrally controlled.....
The use of your credit/debit card
where you drive to and from - police cameras
mobiles can be tracked and traced and used as microphones etc etc....

There are over 700 agencies in the UK that has the power to put you on the surveillance register. If you want I can produce that article....

I actually believe I am chipped. My feet vibrate - get the strangest body manipulations and hear music in my head. Electroshocks etc etc. I saw a report in the Independent that was about the chipping of prisoners like dogs dated 13th January 2008.

It said that prisoners were getting away with the tagging as they could get them off and the system was not working as the system needed an overhaul. The govt has basically looked at the idea over the last two years or so - Basically if chipped the chipped person could be sent body manipulations or messages like electroshocks or actual messages - like voice to skull to tell them they had to go home NOW!! as their curfew time was now actioned. And of course if you are chipped - this means that they can control your behaviour - thus ending your rights as a human. It could mean that you behave worse before you were chipped.....?

I am tracked 24/7 - am met by people who are obviously taking the piss, into intimidation, mock me and after I did the history of the whole thing over - from mind control - surveillance - new age theories relating this to physics - innovation - the list is massive what I looked at. That short list is a very short tip of the ice burg idea of the connections made to chipping someone.

I still believe that "fringe" groups connected to the health industry are aware fully of the problem and can chip a person without their consent - like during a dental examination =injections or surgery. I believe I was chipped as a youngster and have been mobbed and stalked as a young person leading to being vigilante stalked now.

Getting this across without sounding paranoid or delusional is a difficulty to people who think that you basically are that. You see if I said I was stalked by one person in the early nineties and then go on to say oh loads are doing it now - well you can see the reaction I am going to get. I can see it too...... I have a mental illness....?

Look up this site - http://www.thehiddenevil.com/#_Conclusion

The idea is that the chipping is used to make a person appear unstable and it can be used to create a scenario where someone is forced to engage in a suicide act. "You do it yourself". Then the following around is geared to traumatise the person and to also stop them from working - like spread rumours and lies - the effect of ruining their life - so they are taken to the forced suicide route.

So chipping for me is about being tracked, under surveillance, cyber mobbing, people mobbing in the work place, being followed around by the network of civilian spies - in America its called the Weed and Seed programme. Oh f**k...... and the rest

Why? - I do not know? - I am the least likely person - normal. had loads of friends, taught art, normal person, married - but knew something was not right, not in my head - but the things people said to me - Like last week someone came up to me out of the blue and said

"you have to pay" = I have managed to get people believe my story - so this is revenge I believe

and the rest 20 years of car damage, house damage, and the rest - so that something was based on fact not fiction.

I am e-harassed and cause stalked - this is what chipping is all about.....

Eugenics, social control, population control?

It could be about the game "Sims" - control on a grand scale....

chicken

[deliciously_fresh]

Do you really think that this is possible? here in Britain we live in a country in which the health service is collasping through lack of money but to impant every child would mean millions of surgical proceedures, more surgical wards (at a time when hospitals are closing), more medical staff (which are also on the decrease), and huge amounts of cash, backed up by an enormous network of computers, transmitters and receivers. Yes, you need to send the info back to the control point if this is to work. You may think the mobile phone network could be used but the bandwidth would just not be enough for all those people.
The logistics of this concept are so enormous that I believe they are not possible. How many thoughts and impulses do you have in a day? multiply that by the multiple millions of people who would be chipped and you have a real data storage crisis. The storage servers would have to be increased by huge amounts every day to have any chance of holding such data. Most of the data would be pointless crap as well.
I am not saying technology is not at that level but I really doubt it could be used on such a broad level.

The media says this, but is it really true?

I'm sure tptb would find a way around this.

If they implanted us with chips, then they could control our thought process. Many of us use electrical devices, and tptb could insert technology into seemingly innocent everyday tools to further their mind control agenda.

[chicken]

http://www.theblackvault.com/ftopict-60856.html

good thread here on chipping - that article that I mentioned dated from the 13th January 2008 is on here - you can read it straight away without having to download it.

I don't know how to convince people that this is the case for me on this forum. But something happened which meant my familty belive. A series of phone calls outlining all the stuff that was going to happen to me and then it happened. It all related to being followed about and other things - it meant - that after I had found the context of the info matching what they said - it fell into place.......Also it all happened so the chipping aided and abetted the scenarios that I found myself in with the cause stalking adding the additional crap.....

It has masses to do with psychology and psychiatry this

It is a well known fact that anyone dabbling in something that they want to expose comes to a unusual end. Like Danny Caserelo and Dr David Kelly...even that bloke who wrote about the freemasons - died too....

[chicken]

chipping can replicate many illnesses too - modification of the frequencies of the brain - just think the ramifications for the health service then....On conventional sites - electromagnetics has been known to create flu, leukemia, sleep apnea, heart problems etc etc..... ME, fatique, fibromyalgia etc etc....

So would you know if it were real or not? NO!!

yes they could control thought and what you say.....

chicken

[chicken]

Prisoners 'to be chipped like dogs'


Hi-tech 'satellite' tagging planned in order to create more space in jails.... Civil rights groups and probation officers furious at 'degrading' scheme. [Even for the worst of criminals this is totally an inhumane tactic and it will be used as a platform to chip the rest of us, criminal or not!]


Published: 13 January 2008
By Brian Brady, Whitehall Editor

Ministers are planning to implant "machine-readable" microchips under the skin of thousands of offenders as part of an expansion of the electronic tagging scheme that would create more space in British jails. Amid concerns about the security of existing tagging systems and prison overcrowding, the Ministry of Justice is investigating the use of satellite and radio-wave technology to monitor criminals. [Here we go again folks... just as David Icke and IAM1 have been saying for so long - Prisoners 'to be chipped like dogs' It's the Problem-reaction-solution tactic being applied by the global elitists and every one should/must read this article! If it happens in the UK, you can bet it's coming to the US and/or North America, South America and Asia.]

But, instead of being contained in bracelets worn around the ankle, the tiny chips would be surgically inserted under the skin of offenders in the community, to help enforce home curfews. The radio frequency identification (RFID) tags, as long as two grains of rice, are able to carry scanable personal information about individuals, including their identities, address and offending record.'

The tags, labelled "spychips" by privacy campaigners, are already used around the world to keep track of dogs, cats, cattle and airport luggage, but there is no record of the technology being used to monitor offenders in the community. The chips are also being considered as a method of helping to keep order within prisons. [Yeah, zap them when they don't obey! That's human torture folks! Just like all the cops that taser people and those people dying, these chips have been proven to cause cancer, as well as other physical problems. What's next? Have the implant dissolve into a poison when a person is sentenced to death? Just imagine the sick agenda behind this concept citizens!]

A senior Ministry of Justice official last night confirmed that the department hoped to go even further, by extending the geographical range of the internal chips through a link-up with satellite-tracking similar to the system used to trace stolen vehicles. "All the options are on the table, and this is one we would like to pursue," the source added.

The move is in line with a proposal from Ken Jones, the president of the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), that electronic chips should be surgically implanted into convicted paedophiles and sex offenders in order to track them more easily. Global Positioning System (GPS) technology is seen as the favoured method of monitoring such offenders to prevent them going near "forbidden" zones such as primary schools. [As much as I am against pedophiles and sexual abusers of all kinds, I'm more against these chips being implanted into people! This is a dangerous idea and our law officers won't be able to do their jobs any better by chip implanting criminals because criminals will always find a way to get around the technology!]

"We have wanted to take advantage of this technology for several years, because it seems a sensible solution to the problems we are facing in this area," a senior minister said last night. "We have looked at it and gone back to it and worried about the practicalities and the ethics, but when you look at the challenges facing the criminal justice system, it's time has come."

The Government has been forced to review sentencing policy amid serious overcrowding in the nation's jails, after the prison population soared from 60,000 in 1997 to 80,000 today. The crisis meant the number of prisoners held in police cells rose 13-fold last year, with police stations housing offenders more than 60,000 times in 2007, up from 4,617 the previous year. The UK has the highest prison population per capita in western Europe, and the Government is planning for an extra 20,000 places at a cost of £3.8bn – including three gigantic new "superjails" – in the next six years. [Crime keeps rising because governments are corrupt! And there are NO effective rehabilitation programs for criminals in the prison systems!]

More than 17,000 individuals, including criminals and suspects released on bail, are subject to electronic monitoring at any one time, under curfews requiring them to stay at home up to 12 hours a day. But official figures reveal that almost 2,000 offenders a year escape monitoring by tampering with ankle tags or tearing them off. Curfew breaches rose from 11,435 in 2005 to 43,843 in 2006 – up 283 per cent. The monitoring system, which relies on mobile-phone technology, can fail if the network crashes.

A multimillion-pound pilot of satellite monitoring of offenders was shelved last year after a report revealed many criminals simply ditched the ankle tag and separate portable tracking unit issued to them. The "prison without bars" project also failed to track offenders when they were in the shadow of tall buildings.

The Independent on Sunday has now established that ministers have been assessing the merits of cutting-edge technology that would make it virtually impossible for individuals to remove their electronic tags.

The tags, injected into the back of the arm with a hypodermic needle, consist of a toughened glass capsule holding a computer chip, a copper antenna and a "capacitor" that transmits data stored on the chip when prompted by an electromagnetic reader.

But details of the dramatic option for tightening controls over Britain's criminals provoked an angry response from probation officers and civil-rights groups. Shami Chakrabarti, director of Liberty, said: "If the Home Office doesn't understand why implanting a chip in someone is worse than an ankle bracelet, they don't need a human-rights lawyer; they need a common-sense bypass.

"Degrading offenders in this way will do nothing for their rehabilitation and nothing for our safety, as some will inevitably find a way round this new technology." [That's basically just what I've said. It's wrong and it won't work, it will only make the system worse!]

Harry Fletcher, assistant general secretary of the National Association of Probation Officers, said the proposal would not make his members' lives easier and would degrade their clients. He added: "I have heard about this suggestion, but we feel the system works well enough as it is. Knowing where offenders like paedophiles are does not mean you know what they are doing. [And that's the truth!]

"This is the sort of daft idea that comes up from the department every now and then, but tagging people in the same way we tag our pets cannot be the way ahead. Treating people like pieces of meat does not seem to represent an improvement in the system to me."

The US market leader VeriChip Corp, whose parent company has been selling radio tags for animals for more than a decade, has sold 7,000 RFID microchips worldwide, of which about 2,000 have been implanted in humans. The company claims its VeriChips are used in more than 5,000 installations, crossing healthcare, security, government and industrial markets, but they have also been used to verify VIP membership in nightclubs, automatically gaining the carrier entry – and deducting the price of their drinks from a pre-paid account. [Yeah, VeriChip wants to make money! and they'll do whatever the global elitists dictate too!]

The possible value of the technology to the UK's justice system was first highlighted 18 months ago, when Acpo's Mr Jones suggested the chips could be implanted into sex offenders. The implants would be tracked by satellite, enabling authorities to set up "zones", including schools, playgrounds and former victims' homes, from which individuals would be barred.

"If we are prepared to track cars, why don't we track people?" Mr Jones said. "You could put surgical chips into those of the most dangerous sex offenders who are willing to be controlled."

The case for: 'We track cars, so why not people?'

The Government is struggling to keep track of thousands of offenders in the community and is troubled by an overcrowded prison system close to bursting. Internal tagging offers a solution that could impose curfews more effectively than at present, and extend the system by keeping sex offenders out of "forbidden areas". "If we are prepared to track cars, why don't we track people?" said Ken Jones, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo).

Officials argue that the internal tags enable the authorities to enforce thousands of court orders by ensuring offenders remain within their own walls during curfew hours – and allow the immediate verification of ID details when challenged.

The internal tags also have a use in maintaining order within prisons. In the United States, they are used to track the movement of gang members within jails.

Offenders themselves would prefer a tag they can forget about, instead of the bulky kit carried around on the ankle.

The case against: 'The rest of us could be next'

Professionals in the criminal justice system maintain that the present system is 95 per cent effective. Radio frequency identification (RFID) technology is unproven. The technology is actually more invasive, and carries more information about the host. The devices have been dubbed "spychips" by critics who warn that they would transmit data about the movements of other people without their knowledge.

Consumer privacy expert Liz McIntyre said a colleague had already proved he could "clone" a chip. "He can bump into a chipped person and siphon the chip's unique signal in a matter of seconds," she said.

One company plans deeper implants that could vibrate, electroshock the implantee, broadcast a message, or serve as a microphone to transmit conversations. "Some folks might foolishly discount all of these downsides and futuristic nightmares since the tagging is proposed for criminals like rapists and murderers," Ms McIntyre said. "The rest of us could be next." [The rest of us will be next!]

[deliciously_fresh]

http://www.theblackvault.com/ftopict-60856.html

good thread here on chipping - that article that I mentioned dated from the 13th January 2008 is on here - you can read it straight away without having to download it.

I don't know how to convince people that this is the case for me on this forum. But something happened which meant my familty belive. A series of phone calls outlining all the stuff that was going to happen to me and then it happened. It all related to being followed about and other things - it meant - that after I had found the context of the info matching what they said - it fell into place.......Also it all happened so the chipping aided and abetted the scenarios that I found myself in with the cause stalking adding the additional crap.....

It has masses to do with psychology and psychiatry this

It is a well known fact that anyone dabbling in something that they want to expose comes to a unusual end. Like Danny Caserelo and Dr David Kelly...even that bloke who wrote about the freemasons - died too....

Has your life gone downhill since being chipped? Do you feel happiness or do you exist in a state of numbness? When were you chipped?

I'm curious to hear more about your story.

[chicken]

All targets as they are known have alot of confusion as to when and where they might have been chipped. Me also - but can narrow it down somewhat. I think I was chipped during an operation I had on my mouth when I was about four or five - then I was almost kidnapped around that time - by an escaped mental patient.

The chipping concept only came to light for me last february when I was attacked by something. It hit me on the inside - almost like being poked with a stick from the inside. But much more painful. My head went hay wire and they reversed me to the point I could not see. I could not tell me left from right either. There is a whole host of symptoms that go with electromagnetic infiltration of the human body - one of them is flu - had it for eight years. In the end a doctor and a consultant could not draw any conclusion as to why it was happening. All doctors I have met were useless. But can only come to a conclusion that they might have known I was a target and it was on my notes....?

Anyways - I then discovered excessive electromagnetnics in the system creates flu instantly - found that out only recently though.

I then discover that me dad was a paid up member of a masonic group? which was interesting. Not sure if this has much bearing on it. Keeping an open mind on that one.... However I discover me old man used to behave like a cause stalker - actually going out at night to damage peoples property - but that is another story...he then much later went downhill - me thinks he was also attacked. He mixed with some very dodgy people....he became homeless and has physical symptoms pertaining to e-harassment and stalking.

I know he knows about the cause stalking - but he will not admit it. In the uk they are also called"creepers"

I am now attacked 24/7 - no job - mobbed out of it - attacking takes the form of feet attacked and legs with hissing in the ears. What does this mean? "get lost" probably. I was informed well before that I had a frame of ref disorder? how they knew that I cannot fathom as never met they on a formal level. I was told that they were the mental health teams in the midlands. The mental health teams ARE thugs - not because I say that cos one is supposed to view things as different - they behave in a rude manner and make up stories about you.

This is cause stalking to the nearest full stop.

Has my life gone down hill - yes... very much so - I don't really get it - as not a threat to anybody.... However if you help a target - you can get targeted yourself. I did help a target and this is what I got.... I had my first theatrical skit when I was 16 maybe 17 and know who did that and since then that person has been rude to me whilst I stand in disbelief -

the skit - well a difficult one to perhaps quantify for the non target - but the whole street had their petrol pinched which with that concept - meaning "don't travel". I then had all the bins in the same street covering the street lamps - which if I use the same powers of deduction as I use with the other skit - meaning "covered light and energy" which is e-harassment. Finally the last skit - a pink sink was left on me mums doorstep - meaning "wearing something pink and you will sink|" - this one is less obvious I suppose - but when I was targeted I did have bright pink hair. "cerise" pink - so In the events all those years ago I just thought it was kids being silly and to be honest forgot about it. I was told to look back and be aware of my blindspots so I looked back and just put my thinking cap on and looked at the stupid things that were going on.

I feel shocked that another human can do this to another person. AND that they can get away with it. Meanwhile you are being tortured because that is what it is....

Who would do it - well I was told "who" it might be - and I could well believe considering the fringe group is connected with psychiatry and the group consists of criminals and strange people.

I use the word "fair game" and "dead agenting" as they amount to cause stalking and that is what it is about. Run down the life in such a way that it looks as though it is you doing it. I dread to think what is going to happen to me. Many targets are run out of town, drugged, raped, beaten up. Death as the technology could kill you instantly. Every day is my last one - that is how I think though do not say it...

It is a terrible place to be - not happy about as you can imagine.... A lot of targets die from it... or end up in a psychiatric institution or prison on a load of trumped up charges that you cannot defend yourself from as they are mostly made up with false witnesses......

vibrate, electroshock the implantee, broadcast a message, or serve as a microphone to transmit conversations.

so if this is what the paper says - it must be true - this is what I get. I am followed around or met by people who let me know who they are and the microphone thing - well that says it all, listened to like someons spying on you - my thoughts are read too - now that is controversial - but the Stanford Research Institute with NASA did invent sub-vocalise thought - it exists - so they might have implanted me with this in 1971 / 2 - or perhaps later. My teeth story is another one that is very odd as well. Fringe groups were working at the Stanford.....

chicken

[marpat]

People, I know about health service problems first hand. My wife has worked as a nurse for a years and the wards are always being cut back on what they spend. Whe nurses leave they are often not replaced so that staff sortages ensue, all in the name of balancing the books, although the managers always seem to get huge bonus' for making the 'savings'.

Also, as a military person I see everyday how cutbacks in defence spending effect the daily life of service personnel. It may sound wierd but it often takes months to get hold of simple items. If there is any conspiracy about funding then it is propogated down to all levels of the service, military and civilian.

This is not media information but the actual lives of me and my wife.

Personally I am not sold on the idea of everybody being chipped. I can understand why key people might be so they will have to conform but I still believe that the practical problems outweigh the benefits. What would happen if the system of control fell over for a few weeks?

[chicken]

well - maybe we already are chipped?, and when we are identified as a useless eater or someone who helped someone else who upset or rocked the boat - then it is time to pull you in as a nutbar!

Are we all chipped? god knows!! Am I chipped I think so - concerning my situation and the incredible things that have happened to me this year and on and off over the years. At present this is the hardest bit I have had to deal with.

I can see that working for the govt has its strengths but of course you "make do" - I worked for the govt and "made do" but my profession was about that - using nothing much and gaining a lot. In the medical and military one cannot save a life with little equipment.

I actually see that military and medical have a lot to answer for my situation. Military as in the military style organisation to participate and create the stalking. The medical as in giving me the damn thing in the first place and then labelling one as a nut bar. well "grandiose" actually - but close enough as had enough foresight to see what was a foot to be a bit slimy with what I said....Military as they had the know how to develop the technology to a level that it went "black" whenever anyone came close to anything interesting that could be used for or against the people in terms of national security....

So at the begining of the last century - the joining of the military and medical to develop the psychiatric services was a moment that will forever be held in my head a moment of when all people in the UK and USA should be very worried - this started a revolution that has yet come to fruitition - but it is on its way.

The prophets from those days really did set the agenda - which they are still referring to as a guide to the future of mankind. No not heavy speculation- they are still using it.

Bush, Blair etc being guided by those national think tanks. Think tanks and govts employ universities, compaies to research this kind of thing and take it forward.

Chipping is here. Cats, dogs, monkeys, cattle - now people...... its happening. Will I ever get used to it. No!! lost my freedom and now a slave as they want to ruin my life unless I do as I am told.

I left the village and travelled - this is the penalty.....

chicken

[marpat]

well - maybe we already are chipped?, and when we are identified as a useless eater or someone who helped someone else who upset or rocked the boat - then it is time to pull you in as a nutbar!

Are we all chipped? god knows!! Am I chipped I think so - concerning my situation and the incredible things that have happened to me this year and on and off over the years. At present this is the hardest bit I have had to deal with.

I can see that working for the govt has its strengths but of course you "make do" - I worked for the govt and "made do" but my profession was about that - using nothing much and gaining a lot. In the medical and military one cannot save a life with little equipment.

I actually see that military and medical have a lot to answer for my situation. Military as in the military style organisation to participate and create the stalking. The medical as in giving me the damn thing in the first place and then labelling one as a nut bar. well "grandiose" actually - but close enough as had enough foresight to see what was a foot to be a bit slimy with what I said....Military as they had the know how to develop the technology to a level that it went "black" whenever anyone came close to anything interesting that could be used for or against the people in terms of national security....

So at the begining of the last century - the joining of the military and medical to develop the psychiatric services was a moment that will forever be held in my head a moment of when all people in the UK and USA should be very worried - this started a revolution that has yet come to fruitition - but it is on its way.

The prophets from those days really did set the agenda - which they are still referring to as a guide to the future of mankind. No not heavy speculation- they are still using it.

Bush, Blair etc being guided by those national think tanks. Think tanks and govts employ universities, compaies to research this kind of thing and take it forward.

Chipping is here. Cats, dogs, monkeys, cattle - now people...... its happening. Will I ever get used to it. No!! lost my freedom and now a slave as they want to ruin my life unless I do as I am told.

I left the village and travelled - this is the penalty.....

chicken

I think you are just a bit paranoid. Why is there a need to chip people when a lot of modern culture keeps peoples minds closed. People are told to believe in mainstream science for their answers. Peoples attention is taking up with sports, blinded by passion for crap like football and the like, TV that is just pure trash also keeps a lot of weak minds inactive.
It is the flow of information into the public arena that needs to be controlled. If people don't have any information to act upon or use then there is no problem. This is also easier to control that the minds of individuals.

You need to see beyond the hype and the fear to really see how things can be done. I personally don't think any tech solution will give absolute control over people anyway. People are growing, developing entities that can change and evolve, adapt and create. Chips are just stupid pieces of technology that are dependant upon the minds of people to give them comands.

[chicken]

nope=its=called=hypervigilance

sorry=keyboard=has=no=space=facility......

chicken....

[serpentoffire]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/i/t.gif http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/main.jhtml?xml=/travel/2008/02/14/nfingerprint114.xml

Children as young as six will have to have their fingerprints checked in order to enter or exit the European Union, under radical proposals made by Brussels.

Bruno Waterfield: The dawning of a new EU surveillance era (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign/brunowaterfield/feb08/automatedbordercontrols.htm)
By 2019 all travellers, including children, will be required to enter a closed booth on their own, where their biometric details, stored digitally on microchips in passports, will be checked against their real fingerprints.

Tony Bunyan, of the Statewatch civil liberties group, believes that the next stage of pan-European moves to tighten frontier controls is "a bridge too far".

"The idea that visitors and possibly EU citizens - including children aged six and above - should enter an enclosed box and be told what to do by machines and for computers to decide whether to let us out or not is a quite appalling proposal," he said.

The new EU border security proposals herald a culture shock for many and represent a significant advance in the surveillance society.
Currently British passports contain a digital record of an individual's facial characteristics, which are checked by border guards.

By the end of 2009, "e-passports" will also contain digitally stored fingerprints which can be checked against a scan of the traveller's finger tips.

Current plans envisage taking a child's fingerprints at the age of six but security officials predict that records will be taken at younger and younger ages as the technology develops.

Commission working document, seen by The Daily Telegraph, outlines the workings of automated border controls "for EU citizens in possession of an e-passport".

"The traveller enters the automated gate area, possibly by presenting their passport in order to open a door that closes behind them once they have entered (to ensure only one passenger uses the gate at a time)," states the document.

Travellers will be asked by a machine to swipe their passport and "prompted to present one or two fingerprints for scanning".

"The fingerprint image is captured and the system converts both the captured image and the image stored on the e-passport into templates and attempts to match them," says the working paper.

"If a good match is achieved, a second gate opens and the traveller is allowed to cross the border. If there is not a good enough match, or any other problem occurs, the gate does not open and the traveller is directed for processing by a border guard."

Digital fingerprint scans will be stored in EU databases raising further privacy and civil liberties concerns.

Under the plans all non-EU citizens visiting Europe will be fingerprinted, a practice already carried out by the United States.

Franco Frattini, European Justice and Security Commissioner, insisted that the new 21st century border checks were needed in a new era of high-tech crime. (HE WANTS CENSURE INTERNET IN ALL EU!!!!!)

"We need to facilitate travelling of honest people, while preventing terrorists, criminals, illegal migrants from entering the EU," he said.

"We cannot have mafia, or traffickers, or terrorists, using better technology than our police."

Britain is expected to "opt-in" or replicate its own version of the EU controls.

A Home Office spokesman said: "We are keen to see where we can help our European partners put tougher controls in place across Europe."

[deca]

I think you are just a bit paranoid. Why is there a need to chip people when a lot of modern culture keeps peoples minds closed.

basically to do things agaist there free will and better judgment,where there is a will there is a way

How else are they going to control people, there will also be a few that will escape the mass mind control i.e main media TV,radio,newspapers how are they going to control them, also think about people in postion in the goverment,militry what if they have second thoughts or don`t do what they are told.

look at microwave hearing,RF hearing and frey effect and also celldar( http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/oct/13/humanrights.mobilephones ) the goverment/militray don`t need chips to track and influence you but need them to sell it to wallmart and your boss and find ways to charge/track you.

[greenleaf]

nope=its=called=hypervigilance

sorry=keyboard=has=no=space=facility......

chicken....


Copy one and then just select Ctrl+V to paste a space.

[deca]

Also they have to make our lives dependent/easier on having a chip i.e banking,shopping proving our identity otherwise most people will not get chipped or disable/remove them.