Obelisks!

[tinmenace]

Thank you David for opening my eyes to the true nature of the symbolism around us. After I did further research, I see how it all ties together. This is about their Babylonian religion. Everything from the naming of cities, and NASA space shuttles to the placement of Obelisks (and domes) in crucial places.

I gathered a little bit of info for those that enjoy this type of thing. It's not a complete study, but simply a tidbit (and maybe something to help those that are new to this line of information).

The obelisk symbolizes Ra, the sun god. It represents the phallus according to Freud, but for this post, I will focus on Ra.

Ra is the Egyptian name for Marduk, who was the firstborn son of Enki (Annunaki leader and fashioner of man). Ra (aka Horus) was dissatisfied with having only Egypt as his domain and after exiles and wars he attained supremacy on Earth from his city Babylon.

This is the dark religion of the Illuminati and the Freemasons and everywhere that they are, there are punctuations of this religion.

Let's look at some of the Obelisks:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Washington_Monument_Dusk_Jan_2006.jpg/451px-Washington_Monument_Dusk_Jan_2006.jpg

The Washington Monument. Designed by Robert Mills, a Freemason. It stands 555'5.5" tall.


http://www.snapsandbytes.co.uk/needle.jpg
General Wolfe's Obelisk erected after his defeat of the French in Canada and establishing British rule. It stands on the grounds of the Stowe School in England, who's motto is Templa Quam Dilecta (how beautiful are thy temples).


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6c/Patriots%27_Grave%2C_Old_Burying_Ground%2C_Arlingt on%2C_Massachusetts.JPG/450px-Patriots%27_Grave%2C_Old_Burying_Ground%2C_Arlingt on%2C_Massachusetts.JPG
Patriot's Grave, Old burying ground in Arlington Massachusetts - The site of the bloodiest encounter in the Battle of Lexington and Concord. Glorifying bloodshed, they erect and obelisk to their god. Lovely...Not! (How many Arlingtons are there?)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9a/Bunker_Hill_Monument_2001-08.jpg/450px-Bunker_Hill_Monument_2001-08.jpg
The Bunker Hill Monument (221' tall - 2+2+1=5 again!), erected to commemorate the Battle of Bunker Hill. This obelisk replaced an earlier monument that was created in memory of the fallen Freemason Grand Master, Joseph Warren.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/122904915_dc89547ca1.jpg
McKinley Monument - Erected in memory of William McKinley, the 25th president of the United States who annexed the Philippines, Puerto Rico and Guam. He reportedly said to a friend, "...The truth is I didn't want the Philippines, and when they came to us as a gift from the gods..." A religious man, apparently...so it makes sense to have an erection dedicated to Ra.


http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~tjmoore/imagesofrome/Mussolini/foro%20mussolini/foroobelisk1.jpg
Foro Italico - to honor Benito Mussolini. You'd think they're tear it down, but of course it's a marker to the power of the dark forces of the Babylonian gods, and nobody would ever tear those down. Not like the big ol' statue of Saddam Hussein, for example.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a8/DSCN3815.JPG/450px-DSCN3815.JPG
Obelisk of Buenos Aires. They already have the Sun of May (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Flag_of_Argentina.svg/800px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png) on their flag which represents sun god Inti who was believed to be the son of the god of civilization, Viracocha (son of the god of civilization - Annunaki?) During the Peronist government, a ring-shaped sign hung around the obelisk. It read "El silencio es salud" (Silence is Health). I'll leave you to decide what that means.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Trinity_monument.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/TRINITY.JPG
This obelisk marks the spot where the first nuclear bomb was exploded. The same bomb that was unleashed on Hiroshima and Nagasaki a few weeks later. The site's name? Trinity, of course, and an obelisk to commemorate this awful achievement.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c0/Ireland_-_Dublin_-_Phoenix_Park_-_Wellington_Monument.jpg/561px-Ireland_-_Dublin_-_Phoenix_Park_-_Wellington_Monument.jpg
Wellington Testimonial, Dublin - Another erection for a political and military figure.

[tinmenace]

http://www.onlineuniversities-weblog.com/50226711/images/blue-question-mark.jpg
The memorial supposedly placed by Victor Ashe in memory of 9/11 in Knoxville Tennessee. I couldn't find a photo of it, but this Victor Ashe is an interesting fella. He attended Yale, was roommates with GWB and was also a member of the Skull and Bones Society. He was the mayor of Knoxville Tennessee for 15 years and now he's the ambassador to Poland. If anyone can find a photos of this obelisk, please let me know. I think the whole GWB connection is interesting, not to mention the interesting story (http://bushssecretlifein84.tripod.com/) I found about these two fellas. I'm not vouching for the story, but everyone has a right to know that it's out there.




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http://www.battlingbastardsbataan.com/capasns.jpg
Capas National Shrine stands on a former concentration camp in the Philippines.


http://www.purdes.com/njhiking/high_point/4.jpg
High Point Monument in New Jersey. Built through the generosity of the Kusers (an influential, political and wealthy family) to honor all war veterans. In my mind all this does is instill in people's minds that war is good and that it's good to serve. I don't disrespect people for joining the military, but I think it's the biggest hoax that people believe that war is necessary and effective.



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"The Romans were infatuated with obelisks, to the extent that there are now more than twice as many obelisks standing in Rome as remain in Egypt. All fell after the Roman period except for the Vatican obelisk and were re-erected in different locations."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisks#Egyptian_obelisks


http://roma.freewebpages.org/ROMA-O1A.JPG
The tallest Egyptian obelisk graces the square in front of the Lateran Basilica in Rome.


http://www.igougo.com/photos/journal_photos/St%20Peters%20Needle.jpg
Rome is the obelisk capital of the world. The most prominent is the 25.5 m obelisk at Saint Peter's Square in Rome. "The elder Pliny in his Natural History refers to the obelisk's transportation from Egypt to Rome by order of the Emperor Gaius (Caligula) as an outstanding event. The barge that carried it had a huge mast of fir wood which four men's arms could not encircle. One hundred and twenty bushels of lentils were needed for ballast. Having fulfilled its purpose, the gigantic vessel was no longer wanted. Therefore, filled with stones and cement, it was sunk to form the foundations of the foremost quay of the new harbour at Ostia." - (James Lees-Milne, Saint Peter's (1967).)

Remember now, Caligula worshiped the goddess Diana, and even had a massive ship built, at Lake Nemi, as a floating temple specifically for the worship of Diana. The ships lay at the bottom of Lake Nemi until Mussolini salvaged them, only to have them set ablaze by the retreating Nazis at the end of WWII.


It's clear to me, that across all the religions and languages...across continents and countries, there is one thing they have in common - the reverence if the sun god Ra. This obelisk is erected to commemorate bloodshed and suffering. This to me, is the absolute clearest proof that the Babylonian religion is prevalent and has control of the 'leaders' of this world. And while they do their black magic at such large scale, we're just wonder why the world is going to hell (pardon the pun).


I'm tired now. More later. There are sooo many more obelisks, I just couldn't do them all today.

[friendsinthesky]

..heaven forbid should they release a nocturnal emission!:eek: Speaking of which, what is inside these huge phallics???

[truthseeker1980]

Let's not forget perhaps one of the biggest obelisks, well definitely the biggest in Europe. The canary Wharf tower in London.
http://www.owlfish.com/weblog/2005/02/canary-wharf.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Canary.wharf.and.dome.london.arp.jpg/800px-Canary.wharf.and.dome.london.arp.jpg

Complete with Dome in front just a few miles away, for anyone who isn't from the UK, the dome was built with our hard earnt tax money apparently for the millenium, was open for one year in 2000 and has been shut since, complete waste of time and money. Although they are now going to start using it again. Although if you say domes are also symbolism it now makes abit more sense.

[lookfar]

Nice work tinmenace :)

I'm sure you have a lot of research to do as these monuments are manipulating energy virtually everywhere!! :(

[tinmenace]

Let's not forget perhaps one of the biggest obelisks, well definitely the biggest in Europe. The canary Wharf tower in London. Complete with Dome in front just a few miles away,


OMG!! Yes, the dome was absolutely built for symbolic reasons to harness energy and for nothing else. And what about the crown ontop of the dome!? How symbolic is that of Semiramis??!! Geezuz!

Fantastic pic! Thanks!


Nice work tinmenace

Thanks! I have more, but that was all I could manage in one day. I'll be doing more.

[tinmenace]

Did you see what was watching as the Twin towers fell? It was a sacrifice to the gods. Look at the obelisk and dome!

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/wtc-site.jpg

[lookfar]

OMG!!! I hadn't seen that before - wow :eek:

[tinmenace]

OMG!!! I hadn't seen that before - wow :eek:

Like David always says, it's totally in our faces!

[lookfar]

Yeah totally. It's not until you start realising that you see it all for what it is.

Looking forward to seeing more of your good work :)

[thoth]

Funny that you mention Diana, because I live In-DIANA! Check this out
http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/North_America/United_States_of_America/Indiana/Indianapolis-782291/Things_To_Do-Indianapolis-Monument_Circle-BR-1.html
http://www.pbase.com/pathfindar/indianapolis

Not to mention that we have a meridian street, or a ley line which goes through the middle of town and the monument circle (obelisk), former bank one building (biggest building downtown and is an obelisk), the scottish rite cathedral and the children's museum (which uses the all seeing eye and sunburst as its symbols) are all on it! They are utilizing all sorts of energy the masses don't even know exists.

[tinmenace]

Here are some examples of obelisks and domes together. Usually in big Illuminati cities or sites:



http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/NGSPOD04/108022~A-Night-View-of-the-Lincoln-Memorial-Washington-Monument-and-Capitol-Building-Posters.jpg
Washington Monument and the Capitol Hill


http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/MoreImages/StPetersSquareRome.jpg
St Peter's Square in Rome


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Canary.wharf.and.dome.london.arp.jpg/800px-Canary.wharf.and.dome.london.arp.jpg
Canary Wharf, London (thanks to truthseeker for the GREAT find)


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/esquilino.jpg
Basilica di Santa Maria Maggiore, Rome, with the Piazza dell'Esquilino Obelisk on the one side and an obelisk steeple to the other side, just for good measure:
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/S_Maria_Maggiore_N.jpg


http://www.discover-paris.info/pics/place_de_la_concorde_obelisk.jpg
Looks like another pic of Washington DC, doesn't it? But, it's not, it's the Place de la Concorde obelisk in Paris.


It is just me, or do you think steeples on churches are stylized obelisks?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/steeple.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/steeple%20copy.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/Salzburg-Steeple.jpg

I can stop now, right? ;)

[tinmenace]

Funny that you mention Diana, because I live In-DIANA!

InDIANA!! Yes! I've never noticed that before!! Thank you! What about Indiana's state flag?

http://www.centerforhistory.org/images/Indiana_state_flag.jpg


And how about the spot where Diana was sacrificed?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/DianaFlame32X.jpg

Looking familiar?

[thoth]

InDIANA!! Yes! I've never noticed that before!! Thank you! What about Indiana's state flag?

http://www.centerforhistory.org/images/Indiana_state_flag.jpg


And how about the spot where Diana was sacrificed?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/DianaFlame32X.jpg

Looking familiar?

Its more than just the flag, the whole damn city is filled with occult symbolism! How can I post pics? I can show you a bunch of shit on my campus and downtown, its really bad.

[thoth]

Look through some of the pics I posted in the links above. Its In-DIANA-polis

[tinmenace]

Look through some of the pics I posted in the links above. Its In-DIANA-polis

Omg!!! I'm going to resize some and post them here. Unbelievable! Thanks for those links!

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/IWM-Historic-District.jpg
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/wm.jpg
Indiana War Memorial (two obelisks)


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/indianapolis1.jpg
Who is this person with the flaming torch that seems to be everywhere in Indianapolis? Notice the crown on her head. Reminds you of Ishtar/Semiramis, right?
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/indianapolis2.jpg

[thoth]

http://i.pbase.com/t1/42/626142/4/63232380.rD8wQav3.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/o4/42/626142/1/58752288.CRW_420101.jpg
On Meridian

Heres more!
http://www.childrensmuseum.org/generalinfo/directionsw.htm
Notice the eye in the children's museum photo.

Chase tower
http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/5/2004/08/293075.jpg

Heres a pic of downtown.
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=118700

As you can see, the Chase Tower is the biggest building in the state and sits dead center of it. On top of that, its on meridian.

[tinmenace]

Dude! This is unbelievable! I am working on a post about "Columbia". Incredible that you posted the Columbia Club. We're vibing on the same wavelength! LOL!:p

Keep 'em coming. Good job!

[thoth]

http://p.vtourist.com/1/708399-Childrens_Museum-Indianapolis.jpg

Outside the children's museum, on meridian.

http://www.childrensmuseum.org/
http://www.childrensmuseum.org/images/maintopc.jpg

[thoth]

Where did the rest of my post go? Pics?

[truthseeker1980]

St Paul's cathedral in London, has a dome and two obelisk type towers on it.

I posted the picture below though as it has a number of chemtrails in the sky above.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/architecture/slide/ghirardo/CD2/050-CD2.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Drapersgardens.jpg/350px-Drapersgardens.jpg

http://www.usc.edu/dept/architecture/slide/ghirardo/CD2/049-CD2.jpg

[thoth]

http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/5/2004/08/292724.jpg
http://www.emporis.com/files/scapes/city/day/101039.jpg

There is tons of it. Not to mention, the biggest homes and the governer's mansion, on meridian.

[thoth]

Interesting, the chase building photos won't show up!

[thoth]

http://www.new4y.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=867&start=0

Here is a pretty good latout.

[tinmenace]

Thanks for those! The building beside the obelisk is the Scottish Rite Cathedral! So typical. A big ol' obelisk outside. So, if Freemasonry is not a religion, then why do they need a cathedral? http://www.aasr-indy.org/Tour/
http://www.aasr-indy.org/

http://www.new4y.com/uploads/files/69892965terirj_ph_689.jpg

It IS a religion, that's why. They just deny it. Interestingly, I was watching a show about Freemasonry, and their spokesperson said that although Freemasonry was not a religion, they did require you to have a religion in order to join. :rolleyes: You had to believe in something. In other words, you had to show them that you are capable of being indoctrinated.

[thoth]

Capped by gold also. I have heard that this cathedral is number 1 in the midwest.

[tinmenace]

Is there any interesting stuff you want to share with me for the post I'm working on about InDIANA? I've been doing some research over the last few days, but nothing beats having a local point you in the right direction.

So far, I've covered the name, the choice in location for Indianapolis, Eli Lilly the company, it's board members, and a little bit on Eli Lilly the person. I'm going to be spending a bit of time on cathedral, the war memorial, etc.

[thoth]

Meridian seems to be the focal point, because its the major ley line here. The understudy of the Pierre whats his name who designed D.C. designed the city. There is actually an interview of a guy from here on the Edge radio show talking about how Indy is a mass of occult symbolism. Bush and the cronies make regular visits here by the way. Carmel, the town in north Indy uses a sunburst n the form of a golden shell as its symbol. We also have a street called 'Keystone' and many in occult circles know that this is significant somehow, especially since there are tons of phallic symbols on this street. The company that makes the majority of the apartment complexs is called SEX-T-ON, and many of their complexes are names like Stratford, Kensington, Newport, Cambridge, Eagle Creek, Inverness, Carlyle, Georgetown also a street (King George) and a shit load of others. The Indy 500 and the Brickyard are also here on Georgetown. My friend says that this street is aligned with the solstices and that the sun rises on 16 and Georgetown and the fact that the track is set up in concentric rings and the cars going around in circles is majorly occultic. Not to mention nascars symbol is a checker board and a wheel with wings around it. I am telling you, Indy is on the low, but its major in the occult. Check it out.

[tinmenace]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2172

The second half is coming later today

[tinmenace]

http://www.onlineuniversities-weblog.com/50226711/images/blue-question-mark.jpg
The memorial supposedly placed by Victor Ashe in memory of 9/11 in Knoxville Tennessee. I couldn't find a photo of it, but this Victor Ashe is an interesting fella. He attended Yale, was roommates with GWB and was also a member of the Skull and Bones Society. He was the mayor of Knoxville Tennessee for 15 years and now he's the ambassador to Poland. If anyone can find a photos of this obelisk, please let me know. I think the whole GWB connection is interesting, not to mention the interesting story I found about these two fellas. I'm not vouching for the story, but everyone has a right to know that it's out there.


Tah Dah! Thanks to my brilliant hubby, he found a photo of this obelisk for us. Notice the dome over it.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/knoxvile.jpg

[graflok]

The Woolworth Building is a Gothic obelisk that was once the tallest building in New York.

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1691/wwbldgrw7.jpg


It is situated near the WTC site -- see base of arrow in picture below.

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7113/woolworthtowerstr7.jpg

When the 9/11 attacks happened there were reports of a missile fired at the WTC from the top of the Woolworth Building.

See:
http://www.orbwar.com/woolworth/

graflok

[tinmenace]

Holleeee! Thanks for the great link, and info on the Woolworth building. I never knew all that! Wow! Talk about suppressed info, eh?

Btw, I never noticed before, but is that a sunburst at the bottom of the tower?

Also, there are so many more Obelisks of mention that I want to post about, but I just never seem to have enough time. For example, Cleopatra's needles. That's an interesting story.

Did you see Rockefeller's obelisk over his grave? Enormous!

[tinmenace]

Cleopatra's Needles are a trio of red granite obelisks originally erected in the Egyptian city of Heliopolis on the orders of Thutmose III, around 1450 BC. Later Ramses II added his own inscriptions on the obelisk that stands in Paris.

Their first move was to the city of Alexandria and were housed in a temple built by Cleopatra in honor of Mark Anthony, but the Needles really had nothing to do with Cleopatra at all and are actually inaptly named.

The three needles were gifted to to England, France and the United States.




The one in England stands along the Thames in an area known as Victoria Embankment in London built under the direction of Joseph Bazalgette.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/cleopatrasneedlelondon.jpg

Joseph Bazalgette also engineered Albert Embankment where the Illuminati's Secret Intelligence Service Building stands. Note the Neoclassic influence as well as the sun symbol (or crown, whichever you prefer) atop the rounded part near the top of the building?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/sis.jpg

The Egyptian temple resemblance at the top.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/fig5.jpg



The one in France stands at the Place de la Concorde in Paris, quite close to the United States Embassy and on top of the exact spot where a guillotine once stood.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/cleopatrasneedleparis.jpg



The New York City Needle stands in Central park and was brought from Alexandria by one of the richest men in the world at that time, William H. Vanderbilt.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/CleopatrasNeedlenyc.jpg

The inscriptions are fairly well preserved and read as follows:


Face 1:

The Horus, Strong-Bull-Beloved-of-Ra,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, User-maat-ra, Chosen-of-Ra,
Ra, created by the gods, who founded the Two
Lands, the Son of Ra,
Ramesses, Beloved-of-
Amun,...

...there is no-one who did what he did, in the house of his father,
the Lord of the Two Lands, User-maat-ra,
Chosen of Ra, the Son of Ra,
Ramesses, Beloved of Amun, granted life like Ra,
The Horus, Strong-Bull-Appearing-in-Thebes,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt,
Men-kheper-ra, who embellishes the house of him who created him,

...(the Son of Ra, Thutmose), beloved of (Atum),
lord (of Heliopolis), May he live for ever.
The Horus, Strong-Bull-Son-of-Ra,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, User-maat-ra.Chosen-of-Ra,
the Golden Horus,
Mighty-in-years-and-great-of-victories, the Son of Ra, Ramesses,
Beloved-of-Amun,

...the Lord of the Two Lands, User-maat-ra,
Chosen-of Ra,
the Son of-Ra,
Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun.

Face 2:

The Horus, Strong-Bull-Son-of-Khepri,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, User-maat-ra, Chosen-of-Ra, the-Golden Horus,
Mighty-in years-and-great-of-victories, the Son of Ra,
Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun, who came forth from the womb in order to receive
the crowns of Ra, who created him to be sole lord the Lord of the Two Lands,
User-maat-ra Chosen-of-Ra, the Son of Ra.
Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun, one serviceable to Ra and granted life like Ra.
The Horus, Strong-Bull-Appearing-in Thebes,
he of the Two La Goddesses,
Enduring-of-kingship-like-Ra-in-heaven, Bodily son of Atum, whom the Mistress of
Heliopolis bore to him, Thutmose,
whom they created in the temple in the beauty of their members, knowing that
he would exercise enduring kingship throughout eternity,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Men-kheper-ra, beloved of Atum, the great god,
together with his Enneat,
granted all life, stability, and dominion like Ra for ever.
The Horus, Strong-Bull-Beloved-of-Ra,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, User-maat-ra, Chosen-of-Ra,
Ra, created by the gods, who founded the Two Lands, the Son of Ra, Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun,
the noble youth, beloved like Aten when the shines on the horizeon,
the Lord of the Two Lands, User-maat-Ra,
Chosen-of-Ra, the Son of Ra,
Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun, one serviceable to Ra and granted life like Ra.

Face 3:

The Horus, Strong-Bull-Son-of-Khepri,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, User-maat-ra, Chosen-of-Ra, the-Golden Horus,
Mighty-in years-and-great-of-victories, the Son of Ra,
Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun, who came forth from the womb in order to receive
the crowns of Ra, who created him to be sole lord the Lord of the Two Lands,
User-maat-ra Chosen-of-Ra, the Son of Ra.
Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun, one serviceable to Ra and granted life like Ra.
The Horus, Strong-Bull-Appearing-in Thebes,
he of the Two La Goddesses,
Enduring-of-kingship-like-Ra-in-heaven, Bodily son of Atum, whom the Mistress of
Heliopolis bore to him, Thutmose,
whom they created in the temple in the beauty of their members, knowing that
he would exercise enduring kingship throughout eternity,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Men-kheper-ra, beloved of Atum, the great god,
together with his Enneat,
granted all life, stability, and dominion like Ra for ever.
The Horus, Strong-Bull-Beloved-of-Ra,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, User-maat-ra, Chosen-of-Ra,
Ra, created by the gods, who founded the Two Lands, the Son of Ra, Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun,
the noble youth, beloved like Aten when the shines on the horizon,
the Lord of the Two Lands, User-maat-Ra,
Chosen-of-Ra, the Son of Ra,
Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun, one serviceable to Ra and granted life like Ra.

Face 4:

The Horus, Strong-Bull-Son-of-Khepri,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, User-maat-ra, Chosen-of-Ra, the-Golden Horus,
Mighty-in years-and-great-of-victories, the Son of Ra,
Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun, who came forth from the womb
in order to receive the crowns of Ra,
who created him to be sole lord the Lord of the Two Lands,
User-maat-ra Chosen-of-Ra, the Son of Ra.
Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun, one serviceable to Ra and granted life like Ra.
The Horus, Strong-Bull-Appearing-in Thebes,
he of the Two La Goddesses,
Enduring-of-kingship-like-Ra-in-heaven, Bodily son of Atum, whom the Mistress of
Heliopolis bore to him, Thutmose,
whom they created in the temple in the beauty of their members, knowing that
he would exercise enduring kingship throughout eternity,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Men-kheper-ra, beloved of Atum,
the great god, together with his Enneat,
granted all life, stability, and dominion like Ra for ever.
The Horus, Strong-Bull-Beloved-of-Ra,
the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, User-maat-ra, Chosen-of-Ra,
Ra, created by the gods, who founded the Two Lands, the Son of Ra,
Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun,
the noble youth, beloved like Aten when the shines on the horizeon,
the Lord of the Two Lands, User-maat-Ra,
Chosen-of-Ra, the Son of Ra,
Ramesses, Beloved-of-Amun, one serviceable to Ra and granted life like Ra.

[falseflag]

People need to start asking themselves, why all this Egyptian symbolism in our towns and cities? Matthew Delooze made it pretty clear, in an interview I heard him give.(Something along the lines of) Why all the Egyptian symbolism, obelisks, owls etc in Leeds and other such English towns when you wouldn't find a 'fish and chip' shop in Egypt? lol

[tinmenace]

People need to start asking themselves, why all this Egyptian symbolism in our towns and cities? Matthew Delooze made it pretty clear, in an interview I heard him give.(Something along the lines of) Why all the Egyptian symbolism, obelisks, owls etc in Leeds and other such English towns when you wouldn't find a 'fish and chip' shop in Egypt? lol

Exactly right! Especially at the Vatican City! This is why I've posted this thread because for those that don't know how prevalent this obelisk is in our modern world, I want them to start asking some very important questions. There are many more, I just have to work on a follow up for the post. Feel free to add any of your own. :)

[ho1ogram]

G'day tinmenace, I thought you might like this info.

From the Woman's Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects by Barbara G. Walker.

Lingam
Large phallic pillars in India represented the lingam of Shiva, in much the same way that the Egyptian obelisk represented the penis of Geb. Around each large lingam for a radius of 100 cubits stretched the sacred Kingdom of Shiva, where miracles and remission of sins could occur.

The energy field of the obelisks in major cities today, covering the 'sinful'. Read on...
In the temples there were smaller, human-sized linga, or priaptic statues of the god, intended to deflower brides before their wedding night. This operation was what biblical terminology called "opening the matrix."
I interpret this as meaning the brides were being initated into the bloodlines. Opening the matrix could mean their reptillian, blue blood dna was being activated, tuning them into the dense frequency of the Illuminati vibration, making them ready for placement in strategic positions of power where they can continue the Brotherhood's agenda.

Firstborn children were regarded as fathered by the god upon mortal virgins, because of the defloration custom - which was prevalent not only in southeastern Asia but also throughout the Middle East and in Rome. Such divinely begotten "sons of God" were often chosen for lives of religious devotion. The phallus or lingam was usually painted red and anointed with holy oil, to which the Greeks gave the name of chrism. Thus the divinely begotten one was given hte name of Christos, meaning "anoionted."

Of course, oil was necessary to the insertion of a stone phallus into a virgin. Later the oil itself became a symbol. Kings' heads were anointed with oil, being likened to the "head" of the god-penis, inserted into the flower wreath that represented the virgin matrix.

Sounds like an Illuminati ritual to create mind altars. Sexually abusing virgins in a twisted god-penis ritual to create sub personalities that can be triggered with words and symbols.

When Roman brides deflowered themselves on the phallus of the priapic god, they placed a wreath of flowers on the head at the same time. Early Christian fathers deplored the custom because it came uncomfortably close to their own version of the god-begotten Christos; but they did understand, as Lactantius said, that its purpose was to make the bride fruitful "by her communion with the divine nature."

Could they mean linking her auric field or her dna's frequency to the frequency of the matrix? Communion with the ancient gods who are still pulling the strings? Divine nature is the creator, yeah, the creator of the matrix!

Just a thought :)
h.

[tinmenace]

Dude! What an excellent post! Thanks for digging that info up. Yes, they're definitely erections and I like your interpretations.

I had another epiphany today. A freaking major one! I wrote a follow up post on another thread : Ritual or Serial Killer...or coincidence? (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2526)

I'll post it just as soon as I get my graphics done, but somewhere in the middle mention the obelisks again.

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/oslo.JPG

Vigelandsparken, Oslo Norway.
Artist: Gustav Vigeland

[ho1ogram]

sluuuurrrrrrrrp...... the obelisk sucks in the soouls! lol...THE OBELISK ORGY! An obelisk constructed from the etheric energy, the souls of the people, an obelisk constructed from our energy...man, this one is telling it like it is! Awesome! There is even the statues of people waiting in line to be sucked into it's vortex. Notice they are facing away from it? Unware of it's power...it sneaks up on the ignorant and sshhlluuuurrrrpp...! You are gone! Bound to the matrix till you wake up....
:)

[tinmenace]

This artist was expressing what he saw as the human condition. He also created sculptures of mankind battling with lizards. How interesting, as part of the human condition, wouldn't you say?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/reptilevigeland.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/vigeland_woman_and_lizard.jpg

[ho1ogram]

"The sorcerers of ancient Mexico saw those shadows, and saw them as energy that flows in the universe. And they did discover something transcendental."

"They discovered that we have a companion for life," he said. "We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos, and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so."

"I know that even though you have never experienced hunger," he went on, "you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any minute now its maneuver is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear."

He explained that sorcerers see infant human beings as strange luminous balls of energy, covered from the top to the bottom with a glowing coat, something like a plastic cover that is adjusted tightly over their cocoon of energy. He said that that glowing coat of awareness was what the predators consumed, and that when a human being reached adulthood, all that was left of that glowing coat of awareness was a narrow fringe that went from the ground to the top of the toes. That fringe permitted mankind to continue living, but only barely.

He then made the most damaging statement he had made so far. He said that this narrow fringe of awareness was the epicenter of self-reflection, where man is irremediably caught. By playing on our self-refection, which is the only point of awareness left to us, the predators create flares of awareness that they proceed to consume in a ruthless, predatory fashion. They give us inane problems that force those flares of awareness to rise, and in this manner they keep us alive in order for them to be fed with the energetic flare of our pseudoconcerns.

"But why is it that the sorcerers of ancient Mexico and all sorcerers today, although they see the predators, don't do anything about it?" I asked.

"There's nothing that you and I can do about it," don Juan said in a grave, sad voice. "All we can do is discipline ourselves to the point where they will not touch us. How can you ask your fellow men to go through those rigors of discipline? They'll laugh and make fun of you, and the more aggressive ones will beat the shit out of you. And not so much because they don't believe it. Down in the depths of every human being, there's an ancestral, visceral knowledge about the predators' existence."

"The sorcerers of ancient Mexico," he said, "saw the predator. The called it the flyer because it leaps through the air. It is a not a pretty sight. It is a big shadow, impenetrably dark, a black shadow that jumps through the air. Then, it lands flat on the ground. The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were quite ill at ease with the idea of when it made its appearance on Earth. They reasoned that man must have been a complete being at one point, with stupendous insights, feats of awareness that are mythological legends nowadays. And then everything seems to disappear, and we have now a sedated man."

http://www.harmonymindbodyspirit.com/archives/predator.shtml

[tinmenace]

Right! Like I said elsewhere, who has the authority to say what's mythical? I think that was an invention as an attempt to hide the truth about ancient gods actually existing and being immortal.

So often you'll read about a character (a real life historical character), and described as having one parent that was a god. So, how do they justify that?

None of it is myth. It's fact.

Thanks for the post.

[tinmenace]

I've been wondering for a while what the significance is with these obelisks. Yes, it's the worship of the sun god. Yes, it's a symbol of the male erection, and so on. But, that just wasn't enough. I needed to know more, the explanation just seemed incomplete.

I've been discussing this topic with Ho1ogram and Thoth...about the possibilities of light being manipulated to cast magick spells on us, which essentially keep us bewitched. We all agree that this is likely. They're using science and magick to manipulate our reality.



This from the Pentagram thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2368&page=4):

...Eliphas Levi says that he identified three fundamental principles of magic, and they were:



That the material universe is only a small part of total reality, which includes many other planes and modes of consciousness. Full knowledge and full power in the universe are only attainable through awareness of these other aspects of reality. One of the most important of these levels or aspects of reality is the "astral light", a cosmic fluid which may be molded by will into physical forms. (light manipulation as discussing quantum mechanics)




That human willpower is a real force, capable of achieving absolutely anything, from the mundane to the miraculous.
(consciousness)





That the human being is a microcosm, a miniature of the macrocosmic universe, and the two are fundamentally linked. Causes set in motion on one level may equally have effects on another. (hologram)







So, I went searching again, and found these photos:

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/sp2.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/sp.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/2-00-sun-pillar.jpg

These are sun pillars, and I wouldn't be surprised if obelisks were fashioned after them. Now it REALLY makes sense why they worshiped the sun (something I just never could understand). If you can manifest whatever you want by 'bending' light into any form, then I guess without the sunlight you aren't as powerful...so that's why they worshiped it. It's the ultimate source of magick power.

This is why they have these massive obelisks like the Washington Monument in DC.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/wm2.jpg

The obelisk at St Peters Basilica at the Vatican

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/basillicaq.jpg

and so on....just go back to the beginning of this thread if you need a recap.

[pierre_jean]

Place de la Concorde - Paris -

In 1831, the viceroy of Egypt, Méhémet Ali, offers to France the two obelisks which then mark the entry of the palate of Ramsès II in Thèbes (Louxor). The first (and only) of them is transported to Paris in 1833, and it is Louis-Philippe Ier who decides to set it up on the place of the "Harmony" (Concorde) where "he will not point out any political event".

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5479/placedelaconcordeih8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[lumukanda]

here's one from namibia, called the war memorial, or sam's needle :

http://www.war-memorial.net/imgmem/windh/2.jpg

another angle, notice the maltese cross?

http://www.war-memorial.net/imgmem/windh/1.jpg

[lumukanda]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/vigeland_woman_and_lizard.jpg

now that is interesting, look how it compares with the statue for the workers in maputo in mozambique.

http://www.navy.mil.za/forecastle/061002_InterOp_Bourbon/article05/pic07.JPG

it's not the greatest pic, but look at her left foot, the huge serpent, and at the right, a sword and a shield.
this is a pic i got off the net, but i have some of my own i will add later, mainly the detail of the serpent.

[lumukanda]

and i'm not sure if this counts, but it's a monument on the mountain above my town

http://www.turtlesa.com/images/Taal%20Monument/Taal%20monument.jpg

[tinmenace]

now that is interesting, look how it compares with the statue for the workers in maputo in mozambique.

http://www.navy.mil.za/forecastle/061002_InterOp_Bourbon/article05/pic07.JPG

it's not the greatest pic, but look at her left foot, the huge serpent, and at the right, a sword and a shield.
this is a pic i got off the net, but i have some of my own i will add later, mainly the detail of the serpent.



I know she doesn't have all the elements, but you know who this reminds me of? Athena. Take a look....the serpent and the shield...

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/athenastatue.jpg

[lumukanda]

you're right tin, the irony of calling it the statue for the workers is not lost on me.
as an aside, when i was taking pics of this statue, i was arrested for 'not having a camera license' with a fine of about nMt1 000 000 (about R1000), but some quick talking got me out of it.

[tinmenace]

Yeah...no kidding!

[celtic isis]

Don't forget the Spire Dublin!!!!!

http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/51941/2001376499332220966_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001376499332220966)

http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/49541/2001397332406613590_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001397332406613590)

and with jim larkin founder of labour party and general political hob nobber/rebel? harnassing the power with his arms in the air!

i don't know much about big jim yet so forgive me :o

AWESOME THREAD TIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and everyone who posted thank you i'm gonna put some of this into an info mail to post round!!!

[celtic isis]

and this one too...

Dublin PHOENIX park wellington monument :D

http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/50576/2004492555604322899_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004492555604322899)

[celtic isis]

and these too...

http://goireland.about.com/od/specialinterestholidays/ig/Round-Towers/

look what the guy says in his little intro about their meaning...

The round towers are a unique Irish form of architecture - and have been puzzling antiquarians for centuries. They were classified as relics of a Phoenician fire cult, as phallic symbols to celebrate fertility, as Viking or even Anglo-Saxon landmarks and as treasure houses. Today most historians agree that the round towers were bell towers, marking monasteries and churches and used to call the faithful to prayers. Which does not exclude their use as a fairly safe repository for books and treasures.

Bloody historians :mad: and a unique form of irish architecture...not really mate!

[celtic isis]

and these too...

http://goireland.about.com/od/specialinterestholidays/ig/Round-Towers/

look what the guy says in his little intro about their meaning...

The round towers are a unique Irish form of architecture - and have been puzzling antiquarians for centuries. They were classified as relics of a Phoenician fire cult, as phallic symbols to celebrate fertility, as Viking or even Anglo-Saxon landmarks and as treasure houses. Today most historians agree that the round towers were bell towers, marking monasteries and churches and used to call the faithful to prayers. Which does not exclude their use as a fairly safe repository for books and treasures.

Bloody historians :mad: and a unique form of irish architecture...not really mate!

:o

sorry just to say i was looking at this thread a 2am in bed the other night and i missed that the spire and wellington obelisk had already been posted

sorry guys! doh!

[tinmenace]

Reposts are great! Thanks CI :)

[celtic isis]

Reposts are great! Thanks CI :)




thanks tin for your brilliant work. Now i'm all hooked up with a good internet connection lol i've had the time to read more of your work on here and just wanted to tell you you really know your stuff and it's all just fascinating, the time you put in and everything, well done!

you cleared up a lot of niggling things i was a bit confused about regarding the obelisks and what they mean, i hadn't even heard about sun pillars before really and your thread made me shout eureka the other night cause everything just came together :)

thanks so much, it's really appreciated and you're really :cool:

it's really crazy though, how we understand the symbols the language the elite babylonian worshippers use lol, and the majority of people hae no clue, it's freaking me out half the time. I'm going to try and do another thread on another forum to try and show them how these symbols are all around them and their purpose and meaning, that they're not just there to be pretty!

ah it's late i'll have to get to bed doh! nighty night!

thanks again :)

[tinmenace]

Thank you sweetie http://vb.spiritual-nature.com/images/smilies/icon_hug2.gif

[celtic isis]

Thank you sweetie http://vb.spiritual-nature.com/images/smilies/icon_hug2.gif




you're so welcome :)

i feel really crap for being a jackass about the mason stuff cause it really does have a bad aftertaste about it...i can just say OH is seeing it too now, though i don't know when he'll see it fully. (i'm even scared some peeping trolls will see this and report me for saying it lol)

all will come right in the end, cause truth has to win. :)

i'm really in shock just how the symbolism is all right in front of our eyes the whole time! even ground zero...the pyramid on top of one building and a dome on top of the other...it's just incredible :eek:

it just goes on and on...my little cousin is dying to come to paris and she was asking me if i'd been there and what's it like...i have never been there but like omg i really had to bite my tongue not to tell her what paris is realy about...i did say some things to her but she won't understand anyway...she just thinks it's this sophisticated place, that's the capital of fashion and where one of the stars of the Hills is coming to to be a model...groan!!!

[tinmenace]

you're so welcome :)

i feel really crap for being a jackass about the mason stuff cause it really does have a bad aftertaste about it...i can just say OH is seeing it too now, though i don't know when he'll see it fully. (i'm even scared some peeping trolls will see this and report me for saying it lol)

all will come right in the end, cause truth has to win. :)

i'm really in shock just how the symbolism is all right in front of our eyes the whole time! even ground zero...the pyramid on top of one building and a dome on top of the other...it's just incredible :eek:

it just goes on and on...my little cousin is dying to come to paris and she was asking me if i'd been there and what's it like...i have never been there but like omg i really had to bite my tongue not to tell her what paris is realy about...i did say some things to her but she won't understand anyway...she just thinks it's this sophisticated place, that's the capital of fashion and where one of the stars of the Hills is coming to to be a model...groan!!!

It's in the past. We've all come a long way....well most of us have ;)

[celtic isis]

It's in the past. We've all come a long way....well most of us have ;)






hehe you're right :)

[jockey]

People need to start asking themselves, why all this Egyptian symbolism in our towns and cities? Matthew Delooze made it pretty clear, in an interview I heard him give.(Something along the lines of) Why all the Egyptian symbolism, obelisks, owls etc in Leeds and other such English towns when you wouldn't find a 'fish and chip' shop in Egypt? lol

Ive always wondered about the parkinson building (leeds university) in leeds. Check it below.

Never noticed it before, but there is actually a dome behind it on the first picture too. Scary stuff.

http://www.lorry.org/Examplephotos/leeds-tower.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Leeds_University.jpg/800px-

Then theres the council building with the GOLDEN owls ontop of obelisks at either side of the entrance and on top of the towers (4 in total)

http://edsphotoblog.com/wp-content/photos/800px/0510_leeds_civic_hall.jpg

[jockey]

Manchester.

Townhall is to the right, the triangle shaped building with the clocktower. Then there is a dome to the left.

http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=100344&rendTypeId=4

[tinmenace]

Very cool posts, Jockey. Thanks for sharing! :)

In your first photo....the clock tower - would you say that the very top of it is shaped like a pyramid?

[celtic isis]

Ive always wondered about the parkinson building (leeds university) in leeds. Check it below.

Never noticed it before, but there is actually a dome behind it on the first picture too. Scary stuff.

http://www.lorry.org/Examplephotos/leeds-tower.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Leeds_University.jpg/800px-

Then theres the council building with the GOLDEN owls ontop of obelisks at either side of the entrance and on top of the towers (4 in total)

http://edsphotoblog.com/wp-content/photos/800px/0510_leeds_civic_hall.jpg

whoa brilliant pics :eek:
Golden Owls

The goddess is happy with her owls around her, dome, tower, pyramid on top, yep checklist complete. :)

[fist fury]

the obelisk is nothing but a penis for the goddess in her many representations, such as the dome, goddess statue, eight pointed star, pentagram, owl, lion, dove, etc.

[celtic isis]

the obelisk is nothing but a penis for the goddess in her many representations, such as the dome, goddess statue, eight pointed star, pentagram, owl, lion, dove, etc.

And an energy harness/conductor...for the powers that be...otherwise what would be the point of them? Most of us know how useless penises can be at times...:D it's a joke! So why stick them up (on particular marked energy sites) for a laugh???

You can just see the energy like being sucked up by the obelisk can't you? Or is that just me, i seriously feel i can see it and feel it just by looking at pics of them...

and i don't like it one bit. :eek::(

[lumukanda]

i'm reading a book at the moment about freemasonic influences in the old boer republics in south africa, as well as the voortrekker monument which was built after the boers won the battle of blood river (read credo mutwa for what really happened there) and they promised to build a church to the glory of god if they won, but in the book it shows the real text, which was to build a temple to the glory of the supreme being. this temple was the voortrekker monument, which does look kinda obelisky.

http://www.atlas.org/upload/1000000046_l.jpg

but the interesting thing i read that was during the great trek centennial (eeufees), when several ox wagons travelled from cape town to pretoria in 1938, recreating the original trek, all the towns they travelled through, they erected obelisks at all the graveyards where boer soldiers were buried. i found thaty quite interesting, seeing as the masonic influence in old south africa was quite heavy (at least 3 boer republic presidents were masons).

[tinmenace]

Yes, I visited that "tomb" when I was a child. Don't they also have an eternal flame inside?

[lumukanda]

i'm not sure about a flame, but it's a cenotaph, so the sun shines through onto a stone version of the vow once a year, just like the taalmonument.

[acacia]

Hello everyone,love this site.This is my first post.This is in Moscow,built to
commemorate/celebrate the millions of Russians sacrificed in WW2.



http://www.friends-partners.org/partners/skipevans/atl/russia/pg20-01.jpg
More pics here.
http://www.stanford.edu/class/slavgen194a/war_mem/mem_wwii.htm

Acacia.

[lumukanda]

hey acacia, cool handle!
welcome to the forum.
of course they would build an obelisk to commemorate that!

Yes, I visited that "tomb" when I was a child. Don't they also have an eternal flame inside?
i was looking at a website on the monument the other day, trying to find some images of the panels inside and found mention of the eternal flame inside, you were right.

[eyepod]

You can find shed loads of pics and info on Obelisks here :

http://letsrollforums.com/mystery-obelisk-t16866.html

[celtic isis]

You can find shed loads of pics and info on Obelisks here :

http://letsrollforums.com/mystery-obelisk-t16866.html

woo hoo thanks for that eyepod, love the name and love the avatar ;)

and welcome and great stuff acacia too :) looks quite like the dublin spire.

[marpat]

I don't think David has awoken people to the true nature of the symbolism. The obelisk is a phallic symbol of creative power and also represents a ray of light as well as an arrow or finger pointing towards the heavens. What can be sisnister about that? if the illuminati used a symbol for a specific purpose then it their intent that is evil not the symbol in itself. It is the intent that dictates good or evil. I have always seen the obelisk as a sort of antenna meant to join heaven and earth.

I suppose it depends on where you arrive here from. If your first encounter of these symbols is through his books then you are going to be biased by his views. I came from a spiritual path in which I have seen things for what they are not what somebody has told me to think.

I have always felt an affinity for Egyptian symbolism so I guess this is my bias, but at least I recognise that.

[tinmenace]

I don't think David has awoken people to the true nature of the symbolism.

I don't think he's ever claimed to have awoken anyone to anything.

All he does is share information, and what we do with it is up to us. Take it, research it further, disprove it, leave it...whatever.

For the truly curious, they'll research it for themselves, and as their perspective broadens, an awakening naturally occurs. It's a do-it-yourself affair.


:)

[diamond dogs]

Cleopatra's Needles are a trio of red granite obelisks originally erected in the Egyptian city of Heliopolis on the orders of Thutmose III, around 1450 BC. Later Ramses II added his own inscriptions on the obelisk that stands in Paris.

Their first move was to the city of Alexandria and were housed in a temple built by Cleopatra in honor of Mark Anthony, but the Needles really had nothing to do with Cleopatra at all and are actually inaptly named.

The three needles were gifted to to England, France and the United States.




The one in England stands along the Thames in an area known as Victoria Embankment in London built under the direction of Joseph Bazalgette.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/cleopatrasneedlelondon.jpg

Joseph Bazalgette also engineered Albert Embankment where the Illuminati's Secret Intelligence Service Building stands. Note the Neoclassic influence as well as the sun symbol (or crown, whichever you prefer) atop the rounded part near the top of the building?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/sis.jpg

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/images/bazalgett_joseph_william.jpgJosef Bazelgette a bfilliant engineer of London's Victorian sewerage system. In the mid-19th century, London was suffering from recurring epidemics of cholera. In 1853 - 1854 more than 10,000 Londoners were killed by the disease. It was thought at the time to be caused by foul air. The hot summer of 1858 created the 'Great Stink of London', which overwhelmed all those who went near the Thames - including the occupants of Parliament. This, together with the frequent occurrence of cholera, gave impetus to legislation enabling the metropolitan board to begin work on sewers and street improvements. By 1866 most of London was connected to a sewer network devised by Bazalgette.
By all acconts had to fight with the authorities for years to see his designs inaugerated and financed so don't think the placement on Victoria Embankment is significant to him.

http://www.clivebanks.co.uk/Brussels/Church%20Spire.jpg[QUOTE=tinmenace;24000][ It is just me, or do you think steeples on churches are stylized obelisks?
I have always wondered this myself.. I tend to agree

On a lighter note: Funny but Ironic don't you think??http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twClBiSHcck

[marpat]

I don't think he's ever claimed to have awoken anyone to anything.

All he does is share information, and what we do with it is up to us. Take it, research it further, disprove it, leave it...whatever.

For the truly curious, they'll research it for themselves, and as their perspective broadens, an awakening naturally occurs. It's a do-it-yourself affair.


:)



No, but did youn not claim that he woke you up to the symbolism?

I don't need to research it as I am already completely familiar with it long before I came across Davids books.

Personally I quite like some of these monuments.

[tinmenace]

No, but did youn not claim that he woke you up to the symbolism?

I don't need to research it as I am already completely familiar with it long before I came across Davids books.

Personally I quite like some of these monuments.

David helped in my awakening, yes. :) He helped me to understand that there is more to symbolism than what meets the eye.

[hirschfelder]

This obelisk marks the grave of Matthew Murray. It is made of cast iron and was forged in his own foundry

Matthew Murray was a very important figure in the industrial revolution, he pretty much invented trains. He worked for a wealthy elite type called John Marshall who opened a mill called Temple Works which was a replica of the Temple of Horus at Edfu

http://i32.tinypic.com/1nxlpi.jpg

[marpat]

So do people actually FEEL that these monuments are evil? to me all of these things are neutral in design but it is the intent to which they may be used which shows moral virtue or vice.

[tinmenace]

So do people actually FEEL that these monuments are evil? to me all of these things are neutral in design but it is the intent to which they may be used which shows moral virtue or vice.

I cannot actually speak for other people.

But, personally I believe that the energy of some of these monuments are evil - to my perception. The pricks that erected them might not think so, but that's their perception.

[marpat]

I cannot actually speak for other people.

But, personally I believe that the energy of some of these monuments are evil - to my perception. The pricks that erected them might not think so, but that's their perception.



Evil in what sense though? do they produce a negative emotional state, a feeling of oppression or do you think if such feelings were encountered they could be due to pre-conceived ideas?

[tinmenace]

Evil in what sense though? do they produce a negative emotional state, a feeling of oppression or do you think if such feelings were encountered they could be due to pre-conceived ideas?

Evil because of the energy behind their placements. That's all I have to say about this. Thanks for the input.


:)

[marpat]

Evil because of the energy behind their placements. That's all I have to say about this. Thanks for the input.


:)


But have you felt unwell or anything when standing near them? I am not trying to criticise you as I find such things interesting and would like to actually explore such things in direct way.

To me a thing can only be called good or evil if they emit some sort of energy that uplifts or depresses. If the monuments themselves give off no such emanation, no matter who they are placed by, then I would say that the monument is neutral. I suppose in another way they may not be connected to an energy field but if they have slogans on them that effect peoples minds who read them then you could say that the monument is good or evil according to the effect that it has on the mind of the person reading its inscriptions.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/images/bazalgett_joseph_william.jpg
http://www.clivebanks.co.uk/Brussels/Church%20Spire.jpg[QUOTE=tinmenace;24000][ It is just me, or do you think steeples on churches are stylized obelisks?
I have always wondered this myself.. I tend to agree

On a lighter note: Funny but Ironic don't you think??http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twClBiSHcck

Hi :), excellent Thread Tinmenace:

I agree, the Obelisk in St.Peters Square is the most obvious 'Clue' anyone could desire. Homage to the sun god horus

Changing the Fourth Commandment from observance of the 7th day Sabbath to the First Day, the 'venerable day of the sun' is most telling.

The 'Rabbit Hole' I went down which led to Obelisks was those passages in Kings and Chronicles about 'groves', ie: They (some Hebrew Tribes) built groves and angered the lord.

I wondered what was up with groves, so I checked Strongs Hebrew Dictionary:


Hebrew Word 842-6253


842 'asherah ash-ay-raw' or masheyrah {ash-ay-raw'}; from 833; happy; Asherah (or Astarte) a Phoenician goddess; also an image of the same:-- grove. Compare 6253.

6253 `Ashtoreth ash-to'reth probably for 6251; Ashtoreth, the Phoenician goddess of love (and increase):--Ashtoreth


I Kings 14:15


And YHVH will strike Israyl, so it will be like a reed shaking in the water. He will uproot Israyl from this rich land He gave to their Fathers, and will disperse them beyond the River Euphrates, because they have made wooden ashera poles (groves), and provoked YHVH to anger! :mad:

footnote:

The High Place which Yeroboam built had a wooden ashera pole constructed upon it. This straight perpendicular pole, symbolising the goddess ashera, was used to exactly ascertain the Equinoxes & Solstices of the sun-which were the exact days for the pagan feasts.

By constructing this pole and overlaying it with gold and then using it in his worship, Yeroboam effectually served the gods(elohim) & goddesses of sun worship, rather than serving YHVH, our Father by completely obeying His Ordinances and His Feasts (Determined by Lunar Observations).

For commiting this Self Inflicted Nonsense, the lineage of Yeroboam was completely destroyed from the face of the earth, and eventually the Ten Northern Tribes were dispersed throughout the world, completely losing their identities as the Tribes of Israel

Like they say, it's right in our face.

Church Spires=Ashera Poles? Yes, I think so

Do the congregations gather on sunday, venerable day of the sun? Why, yes they do

[tinmenace]

Very interesting post! Thanks for your input :)

[shellygurrrl]

I just had a thought. Maybe the purpose of these obelisks (which are phallic) is to suppress the feminine energies. I would be very curious to see if there is a higher concentration of male energies found in these cities and places. You don't see huge monuments expressing the feminine energies. What you get are pagan symbols, goddesses with shields, fire... basically masculine.

[tinmenace]

Glass Obelisk in Omagh Memorial (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33194)

[ichi wa zen]

http://photos.igougo.com/images/p323606-Amsterdam-Dam_Square.JPG

This is The Dam in Amsterdam.

[celtic isis]

http://photos.igougo.com/images/p323606-Amsterdam-Dam_Square.JPG

This is The Dam in Amsterdam.

great pic ichi :)

it's totally frustrating that the average person doesn't get it...

as of yet i haven't spotted any obelisks round here, just a few church bell towers.

[tinmenace]

Thanks to Pleasuredome (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=556356&postcount=5590) for allowing me to post this photo.

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/obelisk.jpg
Mexico City

[sukyspook]

Wow - this is one really great thread - thanks for compiling all those pics and info.

IMHO the obelisks represent the penis of baal (as in baal-out - get it?)...

Baal is another name for satan and hence, every obelisk I see proves that those in 'power' and controlling our towns and cities are satanists - whether they actually realise it themselves or not. Sadly, I also believe that WE are guilty by association.....and so one thing I'd like to see is all these 'abominations of desolation' removed, along with the 'outing' of all members of secret societies around the world when the nwo is finally toppled.

Tinmenace - you posted some info about Josef Bazalgette. You may have noted this but I didn't see it that his grandson is Peter Bazalgette - the producer of the (more than just a) reality show BIG BROTHER in the UK lol -

One obelisk - complete with full female genitalia and surrounding 'grove' that you should have in this wonderful archive is this one in Staffordshire in the UK - another 'abomination of desolation', newly built to "honour the war dead" in all conflicts - that means, and the same goes for EVERY obelisk - that all dead are dedicated to SATAN:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/National_Memorial_Arboretum_-_post_1945_04.jpg

I can't vouch for the quality of this video as youtube is doing its 2" play and stop thing....but I'm sure you get the idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYsN0HLUk50&feature=related

I went to the arboretum recently to see it for myself - people were very impressed and 'moved' by it.....they'd be absolutely disgusted if they realised that their poor, 'sacrificed' (as said by both boosh and bliar) husbands/wives/children were being used to praise satan and the whore of babylon lilith's sex act.

A veritable cornucopia of erotic architecture! (the cornucopia is apparently another symbol of satan....what isn't lol).

[alrick888]

http://www.uiowa.edu/~africart/snapshots/large/LLM55516.gif

This obelisk was erected in the middle of one of the major roundabouts in Bamako, capital of Mali by then president Alpha Oumar Konare (now active in the African Union).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Alpha_Oumar_Konare.jpg
Alpha Oumar Konare in conference with George W. Bush

This monument is said to bear on its four sides symbols of the major languages of Mali. It is, of course, in the form of the great obelisks of ancient Egypt, a civilization that many Africans use as a metapor for the ancient and glorious history of Africa.

[lakkimakki]

great pic ichi :)

it's totally frustrating that the average person doesn't get it...

as of yet i haven't spotted any obelisks round here, just a few church bell towers.

yeah same thing in Apaldoorn

[kreesurgeon]

In the City of Bath there are three obelisks of substantial size arranged in a strait line over about 1km (3,567 feet according to google earth). The distance between the two larger ones is 1.5 x that of the distance between one of the large ones and the small one.

[titan]

Hi everyone. :)

This is a view of Calton Hill, Edinburgh:

http://www.victorianweb.org/art/architecture/edinburgh/10.jpg