David Wilcock - Divine Cosmos

[drael]

Has anyone else here read david wilcock's materials? I notice he is often mentioned here. He talks about secret projects a fair bit, and has a compelling grand unified theory of alternative science in his ebooks, culminating in "the divine cosmos".

It covers mostly the work of russian scientists. There is ongoing modern research in this feild, which can be found on the net. Apart from the theory itself, it explains in comprehensible terms what this science actually means, in terms of practical effects and how it works on a small scale etc.

It covers to the same degree as bearden the possibility of all those alternative weapons, mind control tech etc - although he doesnt really talk about weather control or any of these weapon type possibilities. It also explains the possibility of psychic phenomena, anti-gravity and all sorts of alien/nwo type tech, the principles of magick ritual, the properties of crystals, sacred geometry, free energy, the periodic table of elements and the structure of matter - basically it covers the possiblity of every phenomena there is.

[lateral_v]

Has anyone else here read david wilcock's materials? I notice he is often mentioned here. He talks about secret projects a fair bit, and has a compelling grand unified theory of alternative science in his ebooks, culminating in "the divine cosmos".

It covers mostly the work of russian scientists. There is ongoing modern research in this feild, which can be found on the net. Apart from the theory itself, it explains in comprehensible terms what this science actually means, in terms of practical effects and how it works on a small scale etc.

It covers to the same degree as bearden the possibility of all those alternative weapons, mind control tech etc - although he doesnt really talk about weather control or any of these weapon type possibilities. It also explains the possibility of psychic phenomena, anti-gravity and all sorts of alien/nwo type tech, the principles of magick ritual, the properties of crystals, sacred geometry, free energy, the periodic table of elements and the structure of matter - basically it covers the possiblity of every phenomena there is.


I haven't read of his work yet, don't know if You;'ve seen it but he was interviewed by Project Camelot, there's bout four clips on his website (www.devinecosmos.co.za) ... REALLY interresting!! One of the clips that I espescially like is The one where he talks about the Law of One in which he discusses the whole dimention shift that earth is destned to make on the not to distant future. He also explains how people that are on a positive spiritual path, who lives more through unconditional love and servers to others will "make it", according to him when this has happened humans would have "super" powers. According to him the whole fact that the people on the negative spiritual path (those that manipulate as to satify only the self) cannot ascend to this dimension because there cannot be negative and positive vibrations "live" in this frequency. It makes sense when I compare it to what Diaan Cooper said in her book "A little light on the spiritual Laws" That in this demention (according to her the 4th while others proclaim it's the 5th) It would be the great awakening of human consciousness in through wich those people on the positive path will open their "hearts" and live in unconditional love..

What I like about David is that after listening to him talk (which has a kind of soothing effect on me) I actually feel positive and he gives me hope, his approach to 2012 is surely more positive. :p

[cruise4]

Convergence is a must read in my opinion. I believe its on the Divine Cosmos site but its a bit all over the place index wise, so try this mirror:

http://www.dprins.demon.nl/convergence/index.html

I read Edgar Cayce The Sleeping Prophet when I was quite young. Just by fluke really. I have never been into conspiracy stuff until this year although I've read a lot of books and some crossed over. Weird its come full circle if he is the re-incarnation of old Edgar. I rate David Wilcock's stuff. Possibly top amongst all the alternative view writers. There are some 'biggies' that I haven't gone into yet though.

[clipwip]

He also explains how people that are on a positive spiritual path, who lives more through unconditional love and servers to others will "make it", according to him when this has happened humans would have "super" powers. According to him the whole fact that the people on the negative spiritual path (those that manipulate as to satify only the self) cannot ascend to this dimension because there cannot be negative and positive vibrations "live" in this frequency.

I think you misunderstood this. This is not what the Law of One books say.

http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.htm

[drael]

I think you misunderstood this. This is not what the Law of One books say.

Davids work is heavily influenced by those channellings. Another must read :)

Glad theres others who have enjoyed wilcocks work. Ive studied so many different areas, but nothing was wholey coherent until i read his unified theory of torsion/scalar physics, which brought the russian research etc into full light and understanding.

I always wonder what would happen if this science really got out?

I mean, it defines our spritual/metaphysics world in definate and specific terms, backed by empirical data. To religion, this will perceived as a threat. It also allows for possibilites like creation of chemical property effects, free energy, easy anti-gravity transport, powerful weapons and more. To powermongers, this will also be perceived as a threat.

If any compelling evidence, or popular research/technology becomes mainstream there may be major opposition.....

But if it somehow got through, wed be living in free energy utopia with our personal ufos all not arguing about religion... possibly communicating via telepathy while practicing meditation and manifestation ;) :D

[thirdwave]

He is cool, I enjoy listening to him....

regarding the ascension thing... the way he puts it and how I have always felt it is.....

there will be two vibrations coming... and the side that you pip the %50 mark too will be the side you fall into....

just got to be a little over %50 "service to to others" ..

the only thing is.. what if you are 50/50!!! :eek:

:)

the only thing with him ..especially when he was interviewed in that restaurant in one of the most recent vids.... when people start going on about what this whistle blower says... and what that whistle blower says.... you start to see many contradictions ... and it all starts to feel a bit pointless in regards to learning anything.....

that being said I fully believe in time travel and portals.... and that technology is WAY more ahead than most have the capabilities of even understanding.

[lateral_v]

He is cool, I enjoy listening to him....

regarding the ascension thing... the way he puts it and how I have always felt it is.....

there will be two vibrations coming... and the side that you pip the %50 mark too will be the side you fall into....

just got to be a little over %50 "service to to others" ..

the only thing is.. what if you are 50/50!!! :eek:

:) Yep this is pretty much the way I understand it too, makes one think twice before one just acts on impulse.. Its so easy to jump on your horse and to start attacking..

the only thing with him ..especially when he was interviewed in that restaurant in one of the most recent vids.... when people start going on about what this whistle blower says... and what that whistle blower says.... you start to see many contradictions ... and it all starts to feel a bit pointless in regards to learning anything......
That's why I think it is so important to find our own center, search for the truth but not to analyze it to death...and to enjoy the journey.

that being said I fully believe in time travel and portals.... and that technology is WAY more ahead than most have the capabilities of even understanding.

I absolutely agree!

[lateral_v]

Convergence is a must read in my opinion. I believe its on the Divine Cosmos site but its a bit all over the place index wise, so try this mirror:

http://www.dprins.demon.nl/convergence/index.html



I read Edgar Cayce The Sleeping Prophet when I was quite young. Just by fluke really. I have never been into conspiracy stuff until this year although I've read a lot of books and some crossed over. Weird its come full circle if he is the re-incarnation of old Edgar. I rate David Wilcock's stuff. Possibly top amongst all the alternative view writers. There are some 'biggies' that I haven't gone into yet though.

Wow thanx for the link! :D

[disorder2k8]

The Law of One actually states that it is at least 51% good (or service to others) to ascend to the 'light' side, or 95% bad (service to self) to ascend to the 'dark', also it counts the earth and its inhabitants as a whole (which may be a reason for so much negative brainwashing in life) the middle 44-45% is a kind of undecided 'limbo' where we must repeat this 3rd density(dimension) cycle if we dont all polarise to a certain direction.

[lateral_v]

The Law of One actually states that it is at least 51% good (or service to others) to ascend to the 'light' side, or 95% bad (service to self) to ascend to the 'dark', also it counts the earth and its inhabitants as a whole (which may be a reason for so much negative brainwashing in life) the middle 44-45% is a kind of undecided 'limbo' where we must repeat this 3rd density(dimension) cycle if we dont all polarise to a certain direction.


That makes sense, David Wilcock did also say that alot of people have not yet decided wether they are slightly more service to others(51%) then service to self. And if they haven/t decided yet, they will have to carry on with their lessons in 3rd density. A man can for instance say I love you to his spouse, and then go out and sleep with a prostetute. I've been told by a channeler this weekend that I need to be more selfish and stop worrying about others, thing is just as David Wilcock said alot of the channeling today is distorted. I can unserstand that if you're not balanced witin yourself it effects those around you, but then if info like this is being witheld from others it does not only effect yourself but others as well, besides to care for others is to care for yourself, for we are all connected. The trick I think is just to know where to draw the line between service to others and service to self. For a person with a very open heart who lack's wisdom can be easily manipulated. One need to be conscious of your words and actions, for they truely have an enoumous effect on our vibrations.
Vibration is everything and in the end it is our choices that determine our destiny.

Love

&

Light

[disorder2k8]

The trouble with this polarising though, is that it is another 'division', Hence another split of peoples and opinions.

If everyone is indeed one as the Law of One states, then both good and evil are one too. The only thing that polarising can do at these stages, is possibly enlighten us as to why the other extreme exists in the first place.

The yin-yang or 'each thing flowing into each other' (or as I like to say, oil and water in a closed jar, aggressive motions will blur the lines but settling the jar will always lead the oil and water to seperate fully into each other again) and that you can only go so far in the negative path (6th density I believe) before being forced to realise that only good is the way.

I have recently read that you need the balance of unity/harmony to be the most effective. Knowing that both good and evil exists and the best time to put them into practice is apparently a key. "Wisdom of action"

Its the same as these conundrums:

Killing a million people = bad?
Killing a million people, who are intently evil and will kill many millions more if you dont = good?


The same as can be said of killing a murderer or rapist, what is the line to be drawn when consider 'lesser of 2 evils' principals.

[empyblessing]

Service to others is not an action. This is often discussed in the law of one and reiterated by Wilcock. Just as service to self is not an action. Neither are good or evil. If you study the law of one and the Cassiopeia materials the higher density beings state that there is no good or evil in the terms in which humans believe them to exist. Just as there is no time in the way humans perceive it.

The names service to self and others is often confusing since it's repeated that one can be service to others and sit in a cave doing nothing. It is a mental state, a paradigm.

My personal theory of it is rather complicated but I'll give the gist. My take on law of one is that the information is one of the rare sources which was taken from service to others as those beings highly respect the free will of others and choose to interfere the least. They're not all-knowing gods though. They're knowledge is different but no greater than our own.

It's my opinion that to "ascend" (I hate that word) there will be little to do with one's actions and behavior. It will be determined by one's thoughts. It is what Einstein said. He wanted to think as god thinks and I believe this is 4th density consciousness. At that point one will choose which to serve, self or others.

Those that can grasp or attempt to grasp concepts of time, creation, freewill, etc. whether right or wrong will proceed to evolve in a rapid manner. Our knowledge base here and now is very limited. Our view distorted. Our thoughts corrupted. Our bodies poisoned.

[disorder2k8]

How would you be of service to others if you sat in a cave and did nothing?

Apart from obviously that you wouldnt burden them with your useless deadweight self?

[hiddentruths]

I just found out something very interesting about David Wilcock and his book, Divine Cosmos. He refers to the work of Dr. Richard Lefors Clark several times in the book. Here's a quote. "Since we have been looking at Dr. Richard Lefors Clark’s "bowtie" shaped vortices in great detail, it is important for us at this point to make mention of Dr. Clark’s theories of diamagnetism and magnetic null zones." The only problem is that it was Albert Roy Davis who made this discovery, and he published it in his first book coauthored by Walter C. Rawls, Jr., Magnetism and Its Effects on the Living System, first printed in 1974. Take a look. This diagram was taken directly from the first book by Davis and Rawls. http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=69&Itemid=36

Here are some more diagrams lifted from, Magnetism and Its Effects on the Living System, by Dr. Clark in his article, "Diamagnetic Gravity Vortexes". http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/antigravityworldgrid/images/antigravitywg054.gif

Here is a quote from "Diamagnetic Gravity Vortexes", and everything in this quote was taken, once again, directly from the first book by Davis and Rawls. "The Bloch Wall is the point of division of the circling vortex, or spin, of the electronic magnetic energies of the north and south poles. The negative energy pole and north pole magnetism spins to the left; the positive energy pole and south pole magnetism spins to the right . The point of zero magnetism and no-spin, and also the point of magnetic reversal where the two spin fields join, is the Bloch Wall."

Take a look at this article written by Davis and Rawls in 1976. You will see two of the above diagrams in the second paragraph. http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/report/articles/v3n1art/scope.htm

It is clear that Dr. Richard Lefors Clark is fully aware that he is attempting to steal credit for Albert Roy Davis' discoveries. Now the question is, did David Wilcock know it, or Richard C. Hoagland for that matter? If they didn't, they should have done a better job of investigating Clark. If they did, they are no better than he is.

The Russians didn't make these discoveries either. They are well aware of Davis and Rawls, in fact, Russian scientists were responsible for them being nominated for a Nobel Prize over 30 years ago. Some other Russian scientists are also trying to steal credit for the discoveries of Davis and Rawls. Did you know, for example, that Davis developed "Kirlian Photography" before Kirlian? He mentions that in, The Rainbow in Your Hands, his third book. There are lots of doctors in magnetic therapy that have tried to steal credit from them too.

[thirdwave]

Isn't plagiarism meant to be when you pretend it is your own works?.. rather than give the wrong person credit?

and more to the point if is is openly forwarding known discoverers, then does it matter?

[hiddentruths]

If you read Dr. Richard LeFors Clark's work, you'll get every indication that these were his discoveries, and that is plagiarism. Whether or not David Wilcock or Richard C. Hoagland were aware of this I don't know, but Clark certainly is aware of what he has done.

What do you mean by "forwards known discoverers"? Does that mean as long as the information is accurate, it really isn't important who discovered it? If so, tell that to Nikola Tesla regarding Marconi and all of the other scientists who tried to steal credit for his discoveries. This discovery by Albert Roy Davis, which he made in 1936, is an enormous discovery that changes practically everything about science. As he and Walter Rawls put it in their books, "the Science of Biomagnetics is an entirely new science." Do you think they wouldn't mind having someone steal the credit from them? Come on, that's ridiculous. Davis spent his entire life doing this research, and Walter Rawls spent 40 years of his life.

[pedsi]

the only thing with him ..especially when he was interviewed in that restaurant in one of the most recent vids.... when people start going on about what this whistle blower says... and what that whistle blower says.... you start to see many contradictions ... and it all starts to feel a bit pointless in regards to learning anything.....

.

Are Whistleblowers modern day pied pipers?

[thirdwave]

Are Whistleblowers modern day pied pipers?

some i guess... it depends where people are being lead too... and the out come.


if people are feeling like they are in a cave and isolated from what they want to feel and think... then I guess they could be following a pied piper...

[thirdwave]

If you read Dr. Richard LeFors Clark's work, you'll get every indication that these were his discoveries, and that is plagiarism. Whether or not David Wilcock or Richard C. Hoagland were aware of this I don't know, but Clark certainly is aware of what he has done.

What do you mean by "forwards known discoverers"? Does that mean as long as the information is accurate, it really isn't important who discovered it? If so, tell that to Nikola Tesla regarding Marconi and all of the other scientists who tried to steal credit for his discoveries. This discovery by Albert Roy Davis, which he made in 1936, is an enormous discovery that changes practically everything about science. As he and Walter Rawls put it in their books, "the Science of Biomagnetics is an entirely new science." Do you think they wouldn't mind having someone steal the credit from them? Come on, that's ridiculous. Davis spent his entire life doing this research, and Walter Rawls spent 40 years of his life.



the impression you have given is that because David Stated it was Richard C. Hoagland's info he was highlighting he is plagiarising the real persons works, is that what you are saying..

if so then its not plagiarism.. but simply crediting the wrong person.

If David Wilcock claimed them to be his own discoveries.. THEN he would be plagiarising..

Although I could not give a shit either way... its info that is keep very quite.. good people put it out there.

[whiterain]

if you only serve others so that you will be ok in the end, then ultimately it is service to self. as is everything ultimately. this is not a bad thing though as we are all the same entity and all in this together. people who say some wont 'make it' are just developing their own new fear mongering based religion. i do like the majority of davids work though. his explanation of space/time and time/space was a big eye opener

[thirdwave]

if you only serve others so that you will be ok in the end, then ultimately it is service to self. as is everything ultimately. this is not a bad thing though as we are all the same entity and all in this together. people who say some wont 'make it' are just developing their own new fear mongering based religion. i do like the majority of davids work though. his explanation of space/time and time/space was a big eye opener

I know what you mean, but you can hardly look at some bigot rapist as someone who is progressing.

[solarwindspirit]

Davids work is heavily influenced by those channellings. Another must read :)

Glad theres others who have enjoyed wilcocks work. Ive studied so many different areas, but nothing was wholey coherent until i read his unified theory of torsion/scalar physics, which brought the russian research etc into full light and understanding.

I always wonder what would happen if this science really got out?

I mean, it defines our spritual/metaphysics world in definate and specific terms, backed by empirical data. To religion, this will perceived as a threat. It also allows for possibilites like creation of chemical property effects, free energy, easy anti-gravity transport, powerful weapons and more. To powermongers, this will also be perceived as a threat.

If any compelling evidence, or popular research/technology becomes mainstream there may be major opposition.....

But if it somehow got through, wed be living in free energy utopia with our personal ufos all not arguing about religion... possibly communicating via telepathy while practicing meditation and manifestation ;) :D

it will only be precieved as a threat by the conditioned programmed closed minded one (a hall of mirrors)

but I believe that 2012 will be a time of healing myself hopefully we will all take leaps and bounds in our personal understanding of the universe. . .quantum physics
and relize and appreciate a creator. . .that has both mind and heart (one) in this matter at this 'time' / /we are all one
with individuated unique expressions. . .of life. . .and there are no coincidences of who you are

freedom like life lies in full potentiality of the universal innate intellegence and oneness

actually I hope these weapons of mass destruction stay hidden . . .
boys. ..rolling the eyes sometimes they are better at being masters of disasters. .. and in full awareness of this. . .lol

[solarwindspirit]

the impression you have given is that because David Stated it was Richard C. Hoagland's info he was highlighting he is plagiarising the real persons works, is that what you are saying..

if so then its not plagiarism.. but simply crediting the wrong person.

If David Wilcock claimed them to be his own discoveries.. THEN he would be plagiarising..

Although I could not give a shit either way... its info that is keep very quite.. good people put it out there.

Thanks. . .I'll go look at the perspective of Dr. Richard LeFors Clark's

[solarwindspirit]

Service to others is not an action. This is often discussed in the law of one and reiterated by Wilcock. Just as service to self is not an action. Neither are good or evil. If you study the law of one and the Cassiopeia materials the higher density beings state that there is no good or evil in the terms in which humans believe them to exist. Just as there is no time in the way humans perceive it.

The names service to self and others is often confusing since it's repeated that one can be service to others and sit in a cave doing nothing. It is a mental state, a paradigm.

My personal theory of it is rather complicated but I'll give the gist. My take on law of one is that the information is one of the rare sources which was taken from service to others as those beings highly respect the free will of others and choose to interfere the least. They're not all-knowing gods though. They're knowledge is different but no greater than our own.

It's my opinion that to "ascend" (I hate that word) there will be little to do with one's actions and behavior. It will be determined by one's thoughts. It is what Einstein said. He wanted to think as god thinks and I believe this is 4th density consciousness. At that point one will choose which to serve, self or others.

Those that can grasp or attempt to grasp concepts of time, creation, freewill, etc. whether right or wrong will proceed to evolve in a rapid manner. Our knowledge base here and now is very limited. Our view distorted. Our thoughts corrupted. Our bodies poisoned.

duality is the ultimate illusion

[xeon]

I've liked David Wilcock's work too, for a while now, actually. I think he tries to steer people to be on the positive side rather than focus on negative stuff, which is better than wallowing in fear and negativity, I think.

I personally do not care for the Edgar Cayce reincarnation thing, even if he claims to look like Edgar, because the original Edgar Cayce seemed to be a lot more advanced...or the fact that he backs Obama as someone who is dismantling the Illuminati....For me, the jury is still out on that.

I just notice of late David Wilcock hasn't been updating his site much, and seems to me, he is way too involved in book deals and album deals...now etc...etc...and neglecting his site. I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering why the lack of updates or "voice."

It seems we could be getting closer to the time for mass mandatory vaccinations worldwide....and I would think now is the time people are confused, frightened, worried...and likely looking for some counsel, or wise words, but - David's gone missing. :(

I hope he posts soon again.

[marpat]

I have read a little about it but I cant get into his stuff. Here is a link to lots of his work:

http://www.lawofone.info/

[marpat]

This one is interesting

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=10

[rockinrobinsuk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5b-kLvppdg&feature=PlayList&p=7E95D29D067AC7FB&index=0
I watched all 10 one after the other i was hooked intresting stuff about the pineal gland and stargate's :D

[bsmurph83]

[QUOTE=xeon;1177124]
I personally do not care for the Edgar Cayce reincarnation thing, even if he claims to look like Edgar, because the original Edgar Cayce seemed to be a lot more advanced...or the fact that he backs Obama as someone who is dismantling the Illuminati....For me, the jury is still out on that.

I just notice of late David Wilcock hasn't been updating his site much, and seems to me, he is way too involved in book deals and album deals...now etc...etc...and neglecting his site. I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering why the lack of updates or "voice."

QUOTE]

i agree about the Cayce stuff. could not give a shit. it's a bit of a 'new age' gimmick to pull people in i tend to think. but his books were mind blowing. read them twice. (had to to fully make sense of it!)

Wilcock supports Obama? haven't heard that myself but i think anyone who supports obama as 'dismantling the illuminati' is having themselves on. he was placed in power by the elite, not voted in, for fuck's sake... still, respect to dave for his excellent books. :D

[bsmurph83]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5b-kLvppdg&feature=PlayList&p=7E95D29D067AC7FB&index=0
I watched all 10 one after the other i was hooked intresting stuff about the pineal gland and stargate's :D

yeh i highly recommend this presentation. the pineal stuff was excellent.

[mind1universe]

When was the interview with enigma?????

[mind1universe]

duality is the ultimate illusion

Duality isn't an illusion, duality is an experience.

[lateral_v]

When was the interview with enigma?????

2012Enigma?

To my understanding it was at Conscious Life Expo in Los Angeles 8-11 February 2008.

[lateral_v]

I've liked David Wilcock's work too, for a while now, actually. I think he tries to steer people to be on the positive side rather than focus on negative stuff, which is better than wallowing in fear and negativity, I think.

I personally do not care for the Edgar Cayce reincarnation thing, even if he claims to look like Edgar, because the original Edgar Cayce seemed to be a lot more advanced...or the fact that he backs Obama as someone who is dismantling the Illuminati....For me, the jury is still out on that.

I just notice of late David Wilcock hasn't been updating his site much, and seems to me, he is way too involved in book deals and album deals...now etc...etc...and neglecting his site. I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering why the lack of updates or "voice."

It seems we could be getting closer to the time for mass mandatory vaccinations worldwide....and I would think now is the time people are confused, frightened, worried...and likely looking for some counsel, or wise words, but - David's gone missing. :(

I hope he posts soon again.


Hey there Xeon

David has made it clear on numerous occasions that he is not entirely comfortable with the whole Cacey business. Whether or not he IS the reincarnation of Edgar is really irrelevant RIGHT now. And I think he feels the same way about that. In the end this will only 'matter' to those people to whom it really "matters". As far as David's view on Barack Obama, I fully understand what he means (not saying I'm supporting it 100% though!)
BUT if you consider the possibility that a transformation is taking place....for the better... isn't it possibly that this could happen gradually? (remember we are stuck in 3rd density and our perception of time is VERY DISTORTED.) What do people expect after centuries of manipulation? A Sudden change....BOOM!!! The negative elite wiped out!!! No more threats, New trustworthy leader, everything peachy? :rolleyes: Obviously the pyramid of control needs to be brought down.....OR they should put the cap stone back! It could well be that Obama (ON a SPIRITUAL level) has a soul purpose in braking down the structure... You have to take ALOT of things into account here.... Consider for example the effect he has on the consciousness of masses of people, and in turn on the collective consciousness which effects all of us, when he deliver his speeches! I've listened to him and he is an amazing speaker! :)

YET I am well aware of the fact that this could all be a trap.....:eek: maybe as most say "he could be the Anti-Christ" !!! :eek: OR he doesn't have a CLUE what's going on.... We DON"T KNOW!!! :(


And as far as everything else goes.... The man (David) is busy juggling alot of projects, (just like most of us), if he is involved in books and record deals.....well that's fine, he gives alot of his information away for free... If this seems to be the cause of him neglecting his website, maybe we should consider giving him a bit of a break... :) It's not like we are looking at anyone outside of ourselves as a messianic figure....Issit? ;)


love

&

Light

[nicholaq]

Has anyone else here read david wilcock's materials? I notice he is often mentioned here. He talks about secret projects a fair bit, and has a compelling grand unified theory of alternative science in his ebooks, culminating in "the divine cosmos".

It covers mostly the work of russian scientists. There is ongoing modern research in this feild, which can be found on the net. Apart from the theory itself, it explains in comprehensible terms what this science actually means, in terms of practical effects and how it works on a small scale etc.

It covers to the same degree as bearden the possibility of all those alternative weapons, mind control tech etc - although he doesnt really talk about weather control or any of these weapon type possibilities. It also explains the possibility of psychic phenomena, anti-gravity and all sorts of alien/nwo type tech, the principles of magick ritual, the properties of crystals, sacred geometry, free energy, the periodic table of elements and the structure of matter - basically it covers the possiblity of every phenomena there is.

Hi there, I am actually going to David Wilcocks conference at the end of october this month.
I watched 2012 Enigma today on google which I thought was good. Im going to buy some of his books whilst im there. Ill let you know how it goes.;)

[thirdwave]

Hi there, I am actually going to David Wilcocks conference at the end of october this month.
I watched 2012 Enigma today on google which I thought was good. Im going to buy some of his books whilst im there. Ill let you know how it goes.;)

is that in the US?

[nicholaq]

is that in the US?

Hi thirdwave no its in London its at the sheraton heathrow hotel. Its on over three days at the end of october.
If you go on the Divine Cosmos site and click on conference. It will give you all the details.
I think itll be really good:)

[thirdwave]

Hi thirdwave no its in London its at the sheraton heathrow hotel. Its on over three days at the end of october.
If you go on the Divine Cosmos site and click on conference. It will give you all the details.
I think itll be really good:)

damn I did not know about that, might be a bit short notice with cash situation at the mo, will try though... its only 30 min drive from me... does not look like they do day tickets..

hhmmm..

[nicholaq]

damn I did not know about that, might be a bit short notice with cash situation at the mo, will try though... its only 30 min drive from me... does not look like they do day tickets..

hhmmm..

I know!! its just the one ticket. Ive got a 200 mile drive also.

[thirdwave]

very tempting as some of his stuff is really interesting.. did you get to any of the Liverpool conventions ?

[nicholaq]

very tempting as some of his stuff is really interesting.. did you get to any of the Liverpool conventions ?

Unfortunatley no, but there is an exopolitics one here in Liverpool in march that im looking forward to.:)

[thirdwave]

Unfortunatley no, but there is an exopolitics one here in Liverpool in march that im looking forward to.:)

The "Beyond Knowledge" ones are pretty cool...

this one has just gone

http://www.beyond-knowledge.co.uk/ .. some interesting interviews attached..

I went to last years which was cool.. maybe DW will be on next years...

[nicholaq]

The "Beyond Knowledge" ones are pretty cool...

this one has just gone

http://www.beyond-knowledge.co.uk/ .. some interesting interviews attached..

I went to last years which was cool.. maybe DW will be on next years...

Im really looking forward to it thirdwave, ill keep you updated if I hear of anymore.:)

[disorder2k8]

Barrack Obama is a good speaker because he is using hypnotic techniques and hand gestures, I wouldn't trust him though and I think Wilcock is confused.
Obama is another slickly packaged new world order minion, there is nothing good in his heart or soul except a little note that says '..on loan to the corporations..'

[the cosmos]

Has anyone else here read david wilcock's materials? I notice he is often mentioned here. He talks about secret projects a fair bit, and has a compelling grand unified theory of alternative science in his ebooks, culminating in "the divine cosmos".

It covers mostly the work of russian scientists. There is ongoing modern research in this feild, which can be found on the net. Apart from the theory itself, it explains in comprehensible terms what this science actually means, in terms of practical effects and how it works on a small scale etc.

It covers to the same degree as bearden the possibility of all those alternative weapons, mind control tech etc - although he doesnt really talk about weather control or any of these weapon type possibilities. It also explains the possibility of psychic phenomena, anti-gravity and all sorts of alien/nwo type tech, the principles of magick ritual, the properties of crystals, sacred geometry, free energy, the periodic table of elements and the structure of matter - basically it covers the possiblity of every phenomena there is.

He may have neat topics on spiritual stuff, but fact that he says he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce leaves me no choice but to look the other way.

[mind1universe]

He may have neat topics on spiritual stuff, but fact that he says he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce leaves me no choice but to look the other way.


oh god.

I was not aware of that.


I never knew Edgar Cayce had the hippy long hair look about him. Could you give a source to where he sayas this, it would be great thanks.

[thirdwave]

Im really looking forward to it thirdwave, ill keep you updated if I hear of anymore.:)

thanks, will give you a shout if i manage to get ticks!

[gaias child]

Barrack Obama is a good speaker because he is using hypnotic techniques and hand gestures, I wouldn't trust him though and I think Wilcock is confused.
Obama is another slickly packaged new world order minion, there is nothing good in his heart or soul except a little note that says '..on loan to the corporations..'

Iloved the first talk he did but his recent one, left me staggered as he clearly has been sucked into the system and is now blatantly a tool for PTB. Yes he does have some very interesting things to say and some of it like positive thinking is essential but it is the same old thing the truth muddled up with deliberate misinfo. The reasons

1. Penguin book company approached him to publish his book, penguin is owned by global NWO company Pearsons who also own media outlet the financial times.

2. He says the NWO has already collapsed and will be gone in a year, what planet is he on. It is only just begining, the begining of codex comes into force this year,pharmaceutical companies already own 90% of health supplements,and then there is monsanto busy buying up all the seeds on the planet so they can make them GM and the impending war in Iran and the dumping of depleted uranium on the middle eastern countries.

Sorry but thinking positive thoughts will not stop this. Thinking postive thoughts about we can stop is much better. There is nothing enlightened about supporting war. I bet he wouldn't be so positive if it was his family they were dumping depleted uranium on

His tactic is to mind manipulate people into thinking postive thought and ignore all this stuff as if it doesn't matter as long as its not them, (self) and to not react to NWO agenda, that way they will get their NWO plan in place, if no one opposes it.

The NWO is now infiltrating alternative media, many books are now published by companies that are owned by NWO illminati elite families, they all enourage self interest, selfishness seperateness, this makes us weak against NWO. They should encourage that we are all one.

[mind1universe]

David Wilcock is a tool.


There is no debate about it. It's nothing personal. It is nothing to be shocked about. His assignement was planned. His mission is to do as he does. He's completing it.

No questions, no answers and no need to debate about whether hes good, bad sloppy, doopey and wonderful.

Some things he says are good and some things he says are not and that's fine for his mission. It his souls mission.


I know this, because I know when I sometimes speak publically about my work, I know many entities are working through me. The Astar command work though many light workers.

Recently I've spoken to a friend about a topic I will not share with anyone. I mean it is pretty confidential. She was able to handle what I was telling her. But something within me just catched onto me like a wire to a plug in the wall, and literally scrambled my thougths so I could not say what I wanted.

It was telling me "now is not the time, your doing away with your head"

In other words, we have to remember when we all have a spiritual mission we must realise we are on the 3D plane stuck in a human body in a imperfect world we can easily get cot up with the ego and matrix realiy. So I was uncomfortable about this experience.

But I later realised that my higher self and guides stopped me from dicussing something I should not be for the time being. It's all about energy. And many people such as David icke David Wilcock and many other public figures are been influnced by the astar command and they do not know it. But I will say it is nothing to fear. It is important the higher dimensions are there to watch us in this dense reality especially when some of us bring our energies onto the world stage.

Anyway I hope this give some sense as to why David Wilcock is channeling out strange things. But you will soon realise that all that is happening is meant to happen for a good purpose.

[thirdwave]

David Wilcock is a tool.


There is no debate about it. It's nothing personal. It is nothing to be shocked about. His assignement was planned. His mission is to do as he does.

No questions, no answers and no need to debate about whether hes good, bad sloppy, doopey and wonderful.

Some things he says are good and some things he says are not and that's fine for his mission.



Sounds like your looking for some guru to take your hand, hence why anything DW says you don't like gives you the jitters..

Personally I think you are talking complete bollocks.

[mind1universe]

Sounds like your looking for some guru to take your hand, hence why anything DW says you don't like gives you the jitters..

Personally I think you are talking complete bollocks.

Well your not one to judge me or assume how I find him. Maybe you need someone to take you by the hand?

You should read post before you spew ignorance and assume what you think people are thinking. I did say I'm fine with DW work. You should learn how to read posts, I would say this strongly to you. ;)


You don't know what people think, You don't seem to understand your own thoughts or whats in black and white in front of you:D You don't have the ability to get inside my head. So don't try.

[zyphus]

oh god.

I was not aware of that.


I never knew Edgar Cayce had the hippy long hair look about him. Could you give a source to where he sayas this, it would be great thanks.


I know this, because I know when I sometimes speak publically about my work, I know many entities are working through me. The Astar command work though many light workers.


I'm not sticking up for Wilcock here. Although did you know that Sananda, the head of the *Ashtar Command, is actually Jesus, Buddha, Krishna ad nauseam, in the 5th Dimension? And don't get me started on those spandlex leotards some of the Ashtar 'crew' wear. :eek: Lunch anyone?

P.s. Did I mention 'tards?

*(I assume you mean ashtar and not astar)

[mind1universe]

I'm not sticking up for Wilcock here. Although did you know that Sananda, the head of the *Ashtar Command, is actually Jesus, Buddha, Krishna ad nauseam, in the 5th Dimension? And don't get me started on those spandlex leotards some of the Ashtar 'crew' wear. :eek: Lunch anyone?

P.s. Did I mention 'tards?

*(I assume you mean ashtar and not astar)

I meant Ashtar.

I know the dis info as to who and what they really are. The systematic control only allows you see what they want you to see.

Jesus, Budda, Osiris, Krishna, Horus, Isis. etc Are all reprenstation of the carrier galactic federation model that really exists. They are not all fifth dimensional. Some are 4th, 6th and 7th dimennsional beings. Some of the "gods" are already remembering themeselves in their present lifetime now. They will reveal themselves soon enough. I cannot say whether the illuminists on the planet want you to see them as they really are. But it seems they are spreading their message into the backdoor mediums over the internet at this time as people begin to awaken.

All I can say, it really depends on your development as to how this transition will occur. But I can say when the return of Christ comes they will make themselves known. This is what I am shown and allowed to say at this time.

[zyphus]

I meant Ashtar.

I know the dis info as to who and what they really are. The systematic control only allows you see what they want you to see.

Jesus, Budda, Osiris, Krishna, Horus, Isis. etc Are all reprenstation of the carrier galactic federation model that really exists. They are not all fifth dimensional. Some are 4th, 6th and 7th dimennsional beings. Some of the "gods" are already remembering themeselves in their present lifetime now. They will reveal themselves soon enough. I cannot say whether the illuminists on the planet want you to see them as they really are. But it seems they are spreading their message into the backdoor mediums over the internet at this time as people begin to awaken.

All I can say, it really depends on your development as to how this transition will occur. But I can say when the return of Christ comes they will make themselves known. This is what I am shown and allowed to say at this time.

The whole 'Galactic Federation' 'Ashtar Command' model is (as some would call it) an Illuminati model. I find it hilarious and bewildering at the same time to see those who completely dis-miss the 'Jesus Christ' story, to fall for the whole 2012 propaganda. The 2012 date would have absolutely no significance if a certain mythical figure was not born 2009 years ago. I could go on and on to get my point across on this particular and very clever set-up, but it would be a lengthy post.

I did however make a post about about the kind of thing I'm getting at.
http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63300
I actually kept it as short as I possibly could. I did also make a continuation of that post that dealt primarily with the 'Indigo' phenomena and the whole 'Star Seed' crap, but then I noticed others had made posts themselves, and other than my own theories, I pretty much duped what a couple of people had said already - and so left it at that.

There is of course a mass Spiritual awakening going on, that's virtually impossible to deny, but there is a psy-ops at almost every corner. The fake 2012 scenario is of course testament to this. We are being led to worship a spiritual hierarchy that has been camouflaged to suit our yearnings. It's all there in black and white my friend if you care to dig a little deeper..

For now ;)

[mind1universe]

The whole 'Galactic Federation' 'Ashtar Command' model is (as some would call it) an Illuminati model. I find it hilarious and bewildering at the same time to see those who completely dis-miss the 'Jesus Christ' story, to fall for the whole 2012 propaganda. The 2012 date would have absolutely no significance if a certain mythical figure was not born 2009 years ago. I could go on and on to get my point across on this particular and very clever set-up, but it would be a lengthy post.


That was my point it's the commercial standardized perception of the real beings to help us understand the message at this level. I agree with you. Infact I was always aware the Galactic federation medium that the masses see is really the gimic version of the real galactic federation.

You don't need to explain to me. Infact it would be far better that you didn't.

I did however make a post about about the kind of thing I'm getting at.
http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63300
I actually kept it as short as I possibly could. I did also make a continuation of that post that dealt primarily with the 'Indigo' phenomena and the whole 'Star Seed' crap, but then I noticed others had made posts themselves, and other than my own theories, I pretty much duped what a couple of people had said already - and so left it at that.

I read some of it, it seems like your focused on being self righteous and juggling up all sorts of judgements to fit your view of the world. Not gonna work like that.

The way you even protray yourself "haha I duped what a couple of people said already so I left it at that"

Be aware of your projections. :D




There is of course a mass Spiritual awakening going on, that's virtually impossible to deny, but there is a psy-ops at almost every corner. The fake 2012 scenario is of course testament to this. We are being led to worship a spiritual hierarchy that has been camouflaged to suit our yearnings. It's all there in black and white my friend if you care to dig a little deeper..

For now ;)
There is a mass awakening and guess what 2012 is almost here.

I think you need to dig deeper into yourself. You seem so far away from reality you assume everything you say is right when infact you know nothing about yourself or where you come from. The point on been right and someone been wrong is futile.

Find out who you are and let the universe figure out the rest.

The fake 2012 scenerio is just other entities wanting to manipulated the masses into thinking the mass awakening is nonsense. Oh It didn't even figure out reverse pshcyology here or how important this plays into this. This is seen when you can decipher the world around you. There are many factions of E.T.s trying to control your world. The highest group the The higher self of you (the real illuminati) Are behind scenes been manifesting the balance and guiding light through this world in multidimensional frequencies and projections most would never be able to fully understand. There is a good reason they are not known or seen on this planet.The real illuminati is actually you all along.

So it is important that every faction of reality plays out whether it's truth or deception. All markings that make this world was the guide for you to complete you and the higher self at one. This test is the lower self reaching the higher self in much shorter time. The higher self goals is to bring balance of the self in all lower dimensions up to the 7th dimension. This is done so that your "being and higher self" is ready to be the masters of creation.

So it seems futile to try disect who's behind the new age movement, your wasting to much energy on it.

Because it's you all along playing the devil's advocate. You probably think this is bullshit. that's because the advice you told me was never practiced by you.

Dig a little deeper my friend, and refrain from judging the universe before you.

[zyphus]

Well I tried to be pleasant, direct and comical about it all mind1universe, but it obviously didn't work.

You seem so far away from reality you assume everything you say is right when infact you know nothing about yourself or where you come from.

LOL.. You think you know me well enough to be able to make that judgement of me. My my... :D

I would've enjoyed debating with you and was actually looking forward to reading what you had to say, but you've just responded with ad hominem attacks. I was going to stress at the end of my post that it was not a pop at you, but rather an alternative view on the subject and was anticipating some good healthy debate, but I was naive enough to believe we could be adults about it. Not to be obviously.

And I could've quite easily responded to every single one of your points, but seriously what is the point?

If you think you can handle debating the subject in the future without the need for 'peace attacks', then PM me with the link and I will debate you with my own version of events. One version out of over six billion.

Good luck on your 'mission'..

[clozaril]

he's on coast to coast tonight (tue 6th oct)

[clozaril]

hmm pretty good bit i'm listening too. george noory just asked you know so much don't you think you are a tool for the illuminati ?

but the big one he has just said is full US governmental ufo disclosure to be announced on television before christmas with the introduction of aliens

[thirdwave]

Well your not one to judge me or assume how I find him. Maybe you need someone to take you by the hand?

You should read post before you spew ignorance and assume what you think people are thinking. I did say I'm fine with DW work. You should learn how to read posts, I would say this strongly to you. ;)


You don't know what people think, You don't seem to understand your own thoughts or whats in black and white in front of you:D You don't have the ability to get inside my head. So don't try.

I was not really trying, to be honest :)

But It seems you have completely judged him, so why cant I judge you?

please elaborate on how he is a tool doing what he is meant to do and why there is no debate about it... set me straight.

[cruise4]

That C2C was an insanely positive message. Highly recommended listening...

Torrent available here:

http://tracker.concen.org/index.php

Annunaki, Reptilians, Revelations... got the lot.

[clozaril]

yeah was good and uplifiting in parts. richard hoagland although a collague and 'friend', in the final hour, says david wilcok is been misled and shouldn't believe everything he is told.

[pedsi]

hmm pretty good bit i'm listening too. george noory just asked you know so much don't you think you are a tool for the illuminati ?

but the big one he has just said is full US governmental ufo disclosure to be announced on television before christmas with the introduction of aliens

Sure is a bold one to come out with.......I just listened to a clip of the interview at redice.

Presonally I reckon he's dis-info...I gues we'll see.:)

[theodoric]

I watched him on project camelot awake and aware , and in my opinion what he is coming out with are lies , nothing he said is true , but you see that is what they will give us , if it is a pack of lies , that is what they will give you , i won't be wasting my time listening to him again .

[thirdwave]

I watched him on project camelot awake and aware , and in my opinion what he is coming out with are lies , nothing he said is true , but you see that is what they will give us , if it is a pack of lies , that is what they will give you , i won't be wasting my time listening to him again .

out of interest can you go into what parts are not true?

[thirdwave]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scym0WH3Jww

[marc_o]

The Law of One actually states that it is at least 51% good (or service to others) to ascend to the 'light' side, or 95% bad (service to self) to ascend to the 'dark', also it counts the earth and its inhabitants as a whole (which may be a reason for so much negative brainwashing in life) the middle 44-45% is a kind of undecided 'limbo' where we must repeat this 3rd density(dimension) cycle if we dont all polarise to a certain direction.

This makes sense, although what about 45-51% ?

[clozaril]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scym0WH3Jww

have to say his english impression is hilarious when talkin about crop cirlces :D

[thirdwave]

have to say his english impression is hilarious when talkin about crop cirlces :D

yeah he sounded like he might have been drinking lots of coffee before this talk or somthing! :)

I did enjoy it actually, "far out" as he is, he still has allot of good research..

[rodin]

yeah he sounded like he might have been drinking lots of coffee before this talk or somthing! :)

I did enjoy it actually, "far out" as he is, he still has allot of good research..

haha you guys believe Wilcox and the Holocaust. I think no sane entity believes either

[thirdwave]

haha you guys believe Wilcox and the Holocaust. I think no sane entity believes either

Says that man who thinks its all down to the Jews lol.

"Believe Wilcox"?

very vague, seeing as is subjects are quite broad.

in the same way you truely think the holocaust never took place, you think one should not believe what he says just because he said a few things that you cant get to grips with...

dude, if someone says a couple things I don't agree with or that I don't think quite fits!... I dont jump to the same silly conclusions you do!... :rolleyes:

[shenoma]

Really, it could be death of the false ego, and rebirth of the real one, of the Self we have forgotten over this thousands of dwelling in utter darkness. Light is knowledge.

[rodin]

"Believe Wilcox"?

dude, if someone says a couple things I don't agree with or that I don't think quite fits!... I dont jump to the same silly conclusions you do!... :rolleyes:

I did say sane entity

[thirdwave]

I did say sane entity

you avitar says it all dude...

like looking through a bog role.

[firstlook]

Here's some more thoughts with David. I think he has some self inspirational motives that spill onto his reflections about other topics, but thats not such a bad thing. Looking to people as mentors and not authorities, is the best way to learn where YOU are going.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSI9hUDiKc&feature=player_profilepage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=occDm-R_o9Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNsywYdCGGk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYznP_qObdw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT7gYhbgAMQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpHJGFl4xIA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhw2BwMavXo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDFDU-TaJU&feature=related

[flyermay]

Is anyone else under the impression that Wilcocks has watched far too many sci-fi movies? :confused:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4951448613711060908&ei=KbvZSuXWNsbC-AbcmsWyCg

[amethyst]

David Wilcock has weird eyes...

[sygyt]

I'm not sticking up for Wilcock here. Although did you know that Sananda, the head of the *Ashtar Command, is actually Jesus, Buddha, Krishna ad nauseam, in the 5th Dimension? And don't get me started on those spandlex leotards some of the Ashtar 'crew' wear. :eek: Lunch anyone?

P.s. Did I mention 'tards?

*(I assume you mean ashtar and not astar)

Ashtar Command,is that from an episode of Star Trek?

[thirdwave]

For me its the same with Maxwell and one or two others, in that they come out with very good info and research and are very interesting, but then will come out with a few stories which comes across as very hard to belive and very hard to prove... and it makes you wonder...

I can personaly just take or leave bits, as you never know what motive would be behind any false stories anyway... a Christian would tell you its to defeate Christ... another person would tell you its just to misslead you from the truth and so on, when it could simply be a marketing trick to get more attnetion... so on..

I was checking out Maxwells new interview with P Camelot, and David Wilcocks was actually there listening... Maxwell was really interesting and on the mark and then comes out with this story about his old girl friends father telling him he has been watching him all his life and so on... and how he knows everything he does ...so on... like this guy was an ETE...

I am not sure the relevance of him even telling us this as it only throws doubt into what he does.

Could these people simply be desperate for money? and these stories simply help promote their work? ... or could they be so under threat so are not as genuine, or could it simply all be true...?

I dunno, although recently it does seem fashionable to make things sound very unbelievable and I am very open about ETEs, UFOs and "out of this world" technology...

Wilcocks is the same.

[nicholaq]

Just got home from the David Wilcock conference.
I had a brilliant weekend, lots of fab information and lovely people.
David is great to watch in person. He has a fab energy to him and is really funny.:rolleyes:

[thirdwave]

Just got home from the David Wilcock conference.
I had a brilliant weekend, lots of fab information and lovely people.
David is great to watch in person. He has a fab energy to him and is really funny.:rolleyes:

Good stuff... I coulf not go in the end...

Did they film it do you know?

[nicholaq]

They filmed it but said it would not be going out on the web.
He said he is writing a 2012 book and that all the extra info would be in that instead.:)

[thirdwave]

They filmed it but said it would not be going out on the web.
He said he is writing a 2012 book and that all the extra info would be in that instead.:)

ok, will have to check that out, he does have some cool research...

[firstlook]

http://www.alienshift.com/index.html


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