Lies and Disinformation in Daily Mail (CHEMTRAILS)

[smashstuff]

It's just contrails, go back to sleep!

This was on page 9 of Friday's Daily Mail, accompanied by a large picture of planes leaving trails:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=442605&in_page_id=1965



The trails that spell trouble for the planet

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If you've ever wondered how crowded our skies are, here's the answer in blue and white.

This stunning picture charts the course of dozens of planes flying over London's Hyde Park in a two-hour period.

Although beautiful, the vapour trails littering the cobalt blue sky are far from harmless. Experts believe they are exacerbating global warming.

Made up almost entirely of water and hanging miles above the ground, the trails can linger for days or disappear within minutes.

Known as contrails in the aviation world, they form when water vapour heated by the engines hits the cold sky and condenses to form millions of tiny water droplets or ice crystals.

Some of the water vapour is produced by the breakdown of fuel, while the rest comes from the atmosphere.

While their height and high water content means they are not a direct hazard to human health, contrails trap heat which would otherwise be dispersed into space.

It is thought that in this way, they contribute at least as much to climate change as the carbon dioxide produced by aviation. Vapour trails tend to form at high altitude - at heights of five to six miles - and at temperatures of minus 40C to minus 50C.

The aircraft shown in the picture, which was taken on Wednesday morning, were cruising at altitudes of 20,000ft and 35,000ft, or 3.8miles and 6.6miles.

The image is actually a mosaic of dozens of different pictures taken between 10am and midday.

As each of the planes followed a similar route, but at different times, their flight paths have been moved up or down the picture to allow each to be seen in full.

In reality, those which were passing overhead at the same time would have been separated by at least 1,000ft in height, or five miles to the side, front or back.

The true number of planes crossing the sky, was around double the 31 shown, as the strong sunlight made it impossible to photograph those passing in the southern sky.

Those captured on film are too high in the sky to have taken off from London or be destined for one of the city's airports.

Instead, they are simply passing through British skies as they travel from the Continent to North America or Ireland, or from Scandinavia to south-western Europe and North Africa.




So, basically, what they are saying is that yes, you are seeing lots of trails hanging around the sky, yes, they are causing global warming, but don't worry, it's just water, which is well known to cause global warming, and is not harmful to humans. What a complete pile of crap! Notice the language 'the trails can linger for days or disappear within minutes.' No explanation as to why some should hang around for days. So, if you've noticed them hanging around for days, take your questioning/conspiratorial hat off, and go back to sleep, it's all harmless water.

I think we should all try to leave a comment at the website about the truth, I already have, don't know if it will get published.

[ho1ogram]

Here is a precedent for your chemtrail argument.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/norfolk/4507036.stm

A small quantity of cadmium was sprayed over parts of the city as part of a Ministry of Defence experiment on chemical dispersal.

The Ministry of Defence said the experiment, which its scientists say was safe, was to "simulate the airborne dissemination" of biological warfare agents in the air.

[lookfar]

Hi there

OMG, what complete & utter crap :mad:

While their height and high water content means they are not a direct hazard to human health, contrails trap heat which would otherwise be dispersed into space.

Yeah CONTRAILS might, but CHEMTRAILS are a different matter & contrails don't 'linger for days' either!!!

The concerning thing is that many people would've read that & not thought anymore of it - believing it hook line & sinker! Talk about blatant bullshit :mad:

Yeah I might leave some feedback too - for whatever good it will do...

[harx bhullar]

Ive never seen contrails hang on for days..

Anyway i dont buy into the whole high altitude/commercial airliner chemtrailing..

It just doesnt make sense. if it's weather-control they're after, they'd use military crafts rather than modifying commercial airliners..

Chemtrails is for a big part a red herring a lot of people in the Conspiracycommunity love to sink their teeth in. i think it's a minor issue no matter how u spin it:

* Proof of the negative effects of "chemtrailing" at high altitudes is absent.
* High altitude spraying with the intention of achieving a ground-result are innefficient. This high up, its real hard to control where your sprayingfield will end up.. Lots of variables..
* If there are global spraying programs, it'll be special acces intelligence community blackops. This deep down, at the apex of the military-industrial complex these networks work selfsufficiently, US government, regular globalist control-bodies (UN)or hidden globalist control-bodies like the Pilgrim's Society have no influence or even knowledge of these ops. There are easier issues we ARE able to tackle.
* Lots of theories, but noone really knows WHAT they are in fact supposed to be spraying. So many variables and unknowns, why even bother. We'll never figure it out, not by the Freedom of Information Act, not any other way, see the point above..

So we can't figure it out, can't prove it, can't stop it.

I'd say let's move on and try hitting where it does hurt.

[intruder]

Orwellian double speak at it's finest!!!

WOW!!! Perhaps that indeed, the real issue IS "global warming"...but NOT as propagated by "An Inconvenient Truth". Perhaps the sun IS beginning to "fry" us...and the benevolent powers that be are actually attempting to stave off an impending catastrophe by deflecting sunlight....!?!?!?

The effect of this add of course is to encourage the public to regard "trails" as normal, yet potentially harmful to mother nature. And YOU good citizen can play your part by "coughing" up some of your already over taxed wages to SAVE THE PLANET!!! Perhaps this all serves as a prelude to an ever-increasing form of environmental taxes etc.

I'd like to think that the trails are fortifed with Vit. C and 9 other essential nutrients!!! :(

(Consult your physician before inhaling: side effects may include irritability, headaches, nausea, vomitting, loss of concentration, blurred vision, impotence, skin rashes, bloating)

[king]

Orwellian double speak at it's finest!!!

WOW!!! Perhaps that indeed, the real issue IS "global warming"...but NOT as propagated by "An Inconvenient Truth". Perhaps the sun IS beginning to "fry" us...and the benevolent powers that be are actually attempting to stave off an impending catastrophe by deflecting sunlight....!?!?!?

The effect of this add of course is to encourage the public to regard "trails" as normal, yet potentially harmful to mother nature. And YOU good citizen can play your part by "coughing" up some of your already over taxed wages to SAVE THE PLANET!!! Perhaps this all serves as a prelude to an ever-increasing form of environmental taxes etc.

I'd like to think that the trails are fortifed with Vit. C and 9 other essential nutrients!!! :(

(Consult your physician before inhaling: side effects may include irritability, headaches, nausea, vomitting, loss of concentration, blurred vision, impotence, skin rashes, bloating)

of course!
in my area (West coast of the U.S.) they started massive spraying in 2003, and ever since then weather is going crazy, people are getting sick en mass and skies turned into murky brown.

some days you can see HAARP in action, elf breaking clouds to regular, almost geometrically shaped patterns.
and this is in place that was known for beautiful weather.
but, extreme colds, unusual drought, even frost -- it is all here now, and of course some days are so frigging hot that it boggles mind.

yet, sheep does not seem to notice.

we live in a chemtrail soup, and it is so bad that visibility went down from 25 miles (5 years ago)
to about 2 or 3 miles.

you can see the chem shit in the air, you can smell it and it smells putrid.
almost every day there are chem plains adding to the chem soup mix.

but, as long as sheep does not care -- they will carry on their thing

[king]

BTW, that site said this, after comment is submitted:


Your comment will be reviewed shortly. Comments may be edited and not all will be published.


!!!!!!!

has anyone left a comment that got published?

[whitenight639]

iv read a little on chemtrails but i havnt heard anyone suggest the obvious..
If you wanted to spray a chemical over people you wouldnt modify anything you would put an additive in the avation fuel (kerosene), but biological organisms wouldnt survive the heat in the jet engine but harmfull chemicals would eg cadium.

[king]

iv read a little on chemtrails but i havnt heard anyone suggest the obvious..
If you wanted to spray a chemical over people you wouldnt modify anything you would put an additive in the avation fuel (kerosene), but biological organisms wouldnt survive the heat in the jet engine but harmfull chemicals would eg cadium.

they are not spraying chemicals from jet engines but separate nozzles.

[jimijams]

If you notice in the photo most of those jets are white, unmarked airplanes the same ones used by NATO for the spraying, only one or two look like they could be commercial liners.
When I lived on my farm I was right under the flight path from Sydney to Brisbane and the planes would pass overhead at 30,000 feet and leave a contrail, these are very different to what is in the photo. The contrails I saw didn't extend far past the plane and disbursed almost immediately with no exception in five years of observation.

[whitenight639]

I have heard the NWO want to half the population, but too me thats to overt to fit planes with spraying equipment, wouldnt a better way be to give people something in there water as most of us are piped up to the mains, there would be no photographic proof of modified planes then, or visible chemtrails. I just think they would be smarter than that. And if like the natzis they want a sick supposidly supreme race of just one type then they would be better of using a race specific pathogen and just killing of one race, so if im high up in the illuminati and i live in the suberbs would they avoid me specificaly?.. i dunno guys i live under the flight path or a nearby RAF base which is always buzzing with helicopters and no planes so i havnt seen anything with my own eyes, i just thought they'd be smarter than that.

[intruder]

I'm just grateful for those of you out there who are aware of this phenomenon. When I first started to see this activity....I was at a loss. I've been a skywatcher since I was a kid.....and big, puffy, clouds have become a rare treat.A silvery, grey, soupy mess has become the norm. It's tied to weather modification and sunlight deflection as there are by FAR more covert ways to target populations. There has been an obvious gag-order given to meterologists, weathermen, etc.

[unicorn]

Thanks for the post smashstuff...

Only just saw the thread today but have sent in a comment on chemtrails, asking why they failed to point out the recent increase & clear difference of the cloud-leaving chemtrails to the contrails.

Hello guys... we have eyes... we can see them!! :eek:

I believe that controlling the weather is only part of it, & yeah, I can also smell the chemtrails in the morning after a night of them. One day we'll know what it's all about, in the mean time, keep talking to people about it & recommend they check it out on the 'net. The more people know, the more truth seekers will be emerging & before you know it, truth will be here for all to see, just like that! Bingo!:p

[support_5]

It's just contrails, go back to sleep!

This was on page 9 of Friday's Daily Mail, accompanied by a large picture of planes leaving trails:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=442605&in_page_id=1965



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So, basically, what they are saying is that yes, you are seeing lots of trails hanging around the sky, yes, they are causing global warming, but don't worry, it's just water, which is well known to cause global warming, and is not harmful to humans. What a complete pile of crap! Notice the language 'the trails can linger for days or disappear within minutes.' No explanation as to why some should hang around for days. So, if you've noticed them hanging around for days, take your questioning/conspiratorial hat off, and go back to sleep, it's all harmless water.

I think we should all try to leave a comment at the website about the truth, I already have, don't know if it will get published.

Hallo!
I've a question for smashstuff:
Is that paragraph written by you or was it in the daily mail article?

I know it's a strange question but I know a guy saying that it was originally written on the daily mail article and it looks like very strange for me!

Thanks very much for the answer

[the festival spirit]

Hallo!
I've a question for smashstuff:
Is that paragraph written by you or was it in the daily mail article?

I know it's a strange question but I know a guy saying that it was originally written on the daily mail article and it looks like very strange for me!

Thanks very much for the answer

I also wondered whether it was written by the poster or not. Good thread though, Some good questions and advice here.

I have wondered if chemtrails (which I have been aware of for a year or so) could be use to make people think they feel at one with the universe. I do not want to believe that, but you never know.

David icke will tell you, If as many people saw what he sees, twenty years ago, he would not have been so alone in his fight for truth.

[the festival spirit]

I have heard the NWO want to half the population, but too me thats to overt to fit planes with spraying equipment, wouldnt a better way be to give people something in there water as most of us are piped up to the mains, there would be no photographic proof of modified planes then, or visible chemtrails. I just think they would be smarter than that. And if like the natzis they want a sick supposidly supreme race of just one type then they would be better of using a race specific pathogen and just killing of one race, so if im high up in the illuminati and i live in the suberbs would they avoid me specificaly?.. i dunno guys i live under the flight path or a nearby RAF base which is always buzzing with helicopters and no planes so i havnt seen anything with my own eyes, i just thought they'd be smarter than that.

you just thought who would be smarter than that? the people who think 'most' are stupid, why would they NEED to be smarter than that, if they think most people are sheep.

I can only speak for the uk, (not that I speak for the uk) but there are at least 400 chemicals in our tap water, they refuse to clean it up because 'some' people use it to wash their cars, and you think there is nothing in our water ?????

EDIT: I can only speak for the uk (not that) etc

[whitenight639]

I know theres stuff in our water ours intermittantly tastes funny, and since my last post here i have seen chemtrails with my own eyes and even posted photos.

[erikneo]

Chemtrails in my community (canada ottawa east) TodayJune15

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