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cl2008
26-01-2008, 02:12 PM
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/creation-phil.html

An excerpt:


How the World Was Made

This is the ancient Filipino account of the creation.

Thousands of years ago there was no land nor sun nor moon nor stars, and the world was only a great sea of water, above which stretched the sky. The water was the kingdom of the god Maguayan, and the sky was ruled by the great god Captan.

Maguayan had a daughter called Lidagat, the sea, and Captan had a son known as Lihangin, the wind. The gods agreed to the marriage of their children, so the sea became the bride of the wind.

Three sons and a daughter were born to them. The sons were called Licalibutan, Liadlao, and Libulan; and the daughter received the name of Lisuga.

Licalibutan had a body of rock and was strong and brave; Liadlao was formed of gold and was always happy; Libulan was made of copper and was weak and timid; and the beautiful Lisuga had a body of pure silver and was sweet and gentle. Their parents were very fond of them, and nothing was wanting to make them happy.

After a time Lihangin died and left the control of the winds to his eldest son Licalibutan. The faithful wife Lidagat soon followed her husband, and the children, now grown up, were left without father or mother. However, their grandfathers, Captan and Maguayan, took care of them and guarded them from all evil.

After a time, Licalibutan, proud of his power over the winds, resolved to gain more power, and asked his brothers to join him in an attack on Captan in the sky above. At first they refused; but when Licalibutan became angry with them, the amiable Liadlao, not wishing to offend his brother, agreed to help. Then together they induced the timid Libulan to join in the plan.

When all was ready the three brothers rushed at the sky, but they could not beat down the gates of steel that guarded the entrance. Then Licalibutan let loose the strongest winds and blew the bars in every direction. The brothers rushed into the opening, but were met by the angry god Captan. So terrible did he look that they turned and ran in terror; but Captan, furious at the destruction of his gates, sent three bolts of lightning after them.

The first struck the copper Libulan and melted him into a ball. The second struck the golden Liadlao, and he too was melted. The third bolt struck Licalibutan, and his rocky body broke into many pieces and fell into the sea. So huge was he that parts of his body stuck out above the water and became what is known as land.

In the meantime the gentle Lisuga had missed her brothers and started to look for them. She went toward the sky, but as she approached the broken gates, Captan, blind with anger, struck her too with lightning, and her silver body broke into thousands of pieces.

Captan then came down from the sky and tore the sea apart, calling on Maguayan to come to him and accusing him of ordering the attack on the sky. Soon Maguayan appeared and answered that he knew nothing of the plot as he had been asleep far down in the sea.

After a time he succeeded in calming the angry Captan. Together they wept at the loss of their grandchildren, especially the gentle and beautiful Lisuga; but with all their power they could not restore the dead to life. However, they gave to each body a beautiful light that will shine forever.

And so it was that golden Liadlao became the sun, and copper Libulan the moon, while the thousands of pieces of silver Lisuga shine as the stars of heaven. To wicked Licalibutan the gods gave no light, but resolved to make his body support a new race of people. So Captan gave Maguayan a seed, and he planted it on the land, which, as you will remember, was part of Licalibutan's huge body.

Soon a bamboo tree grew up, and from the hollow of one of its branches a man and a woman came out. The man's name was Sicalac, and the woman was called Sicabay. They were the parents of the human race. Their first child was a son whom they called Libo; afterwards they had a daughter who was known as Saman. Pandaguan was a younger son and he had a son called Arion.

Pandaguan was very clever and invented a trap to catch fish. The very first thing he caught was a huge shark. When he brought it to land, it looked so great and fierce that he thought it was surely a god, and he at once ordered his people to worship it. Soon all gathered around and began to sing and pray to the shark. Suddenly the sky and sea opened, and the gods came out and ordered Pandaguan to throw the shark back into the sea and to worship none but them.

All were afraid except Pandaguan. He grew very bold and answered that the shark was as big as the gods, and that since he had been able to overpower it he would also be able to conquer the gods. Then Captan, hearing this, struck Pandaguan with a small thunderbolt, for he did not wish to kill him but merely to teach him a lesson. Then he and Maguayan decided to punish these people by scattering them over the earth, so they carried some to one land and some to another. Many children were afterwards born, and thus the earth became inhabited in all parts.

Pandaguan did not die. After lying on the ground for thirty days he regained his strength, but his body was blackened from the lightning, and all his descendants ever since that day have been black.

His first son, Arion, was taken north, but as he had been born before his father's punishment he did not lose his color, and all his people therefore are white.

Libo and Saman were carried south, where the hot sun scorched their bodies and caused all their descendants to be of a brown color.

A son of Saman and a daughter of Sicalac were carried east, where the land at first was so lacking in food that they were compelled to eat clay. On this account their children and their children's children have always been yellow in color.

And so the world came to be made and peopled. The sun and moon shine in the sky, and the beautiful stars light up the night. All over the land, on the body of the envious Licalibutan, the children of' Sicalac and Sicabay have grown great in numbers. May they live forever in peace and brotherly love!




I have a question. HOW DID PRE-SPANISH ERA FILIPINOS KNOW THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE IN THE NORTH, AND BROWN PEOPLE ARE IN THE SOUTH and YELLOW people are in the east? In fact, how did they know that there are even White and Black people on this earth long before they were met by the Spanish? If they made up this story with pure native creativity, why didnt they say its Blue or Pink people?

That is really something amazing.

hagbard_celine
27-01-2008, 12:58 PM
I'm glad some of the indigenous Filipino culture has survived. I know many Filipinoes and the impression I get is that the entire Phillipines has been stained and gutted by American culture.

cl2008
27-01-2008, 03:12 PM
I'm glad some of the indigenous Filipino culture has survived. I know many Filipinoes and the impression I get is that the entire Phillipines has been stained and gutted by American culture.

You speak some truth there.

I am part Filipino. The American culture is very strong in our country.

To an extent where alot of my people have this colonial mentality to them. What is Filipino is bad and what is American is much cooler.

As far as our native culture is concerned, I am very very interested in learning more about it. However, much of the population thinks all of those stuff about agimats, albularyos, hilots, psy-surgeons, etc. is either FAKE (from mostly secular-atheist inspired people) or of the DEVIL (coming from mostly Christian or heavily religious people).

In Filipino message boards, I try to get my message across. However most of it is dominated by arguments about Christianity vs Atheism vs Islam vs all kinds of other religions, prolife vs prochoice, communism vs capitalism, so and so politician is shit while so and so is so great, etc. etc. etc.

Well I can speculate that there is a reptilian involvement or that the NWO is testing mind control technologies and/or chemical weapons on my people.

Think about it. Why will the US government offer assistance to the Philippine government in fighting the commie and islamic insurgents if they have nothing to gain? Majority of our islamic insurgents despise Osama and his ilk. So there is no connection between binladen and our local insurgents.

As to what they gain, it could be more test subjects and worse, food for the reptilian masters. Because in rural areas, there are sightings of creatures called aswangs that very much resemble descriptions of vampires and reptilians. :(

Think about it. Most people in the rural areas are illiterate and if ever they squeal about 'aswangs', they are treated as ramblings of insane people. While at the same time, aswangs have been sighted near and around the big cities.

hagbard_celine
29-01-2008, 12:22 PM
You speak some truth there.

I am part Filipino. The American culture is very strong in our country.

To an extent where alot of my people have this colonial mentality to them. What is Filipino is bad and what is American is much cooler.

As far as our native culture is concerned, I am very very interested in learning more about it. However, much of the population thinks all of those stuff about agimats, albularyos, hilots, psy-surgeons, etc. is either FAKE (from mostly secular-atheist inspired people) or of the DEVIL (coming from mostly Christian or heavily religious people).

In Filipino message boards, I try to get my message across. However most of it is dominated by arguments about Christianity vs Atheism vs Islam vs all kinds of other religions, prolife vs prochoice, communism vs capitalism, so and so politician is shit while so and so is so great, etc. etc. etc.

Well I can speculate that there is a reptilian involvement or that the NWO is testing mind control technologies and/or chemical weapons on my people.

Think about it. Why will the US government offer assistance to the Philippine government in fighting the commie and islamic insurgents if they have nothing to gain? Majority of our islamic insurgents despise Osama and his ilk. So there is no connection between binladen and our local insurgents.

As to what they gain, it could be more test subjects and worse, food for the reptilian masters. Because in rural areas, there are sightings of creatures called aswangs that very much resemble descriptions of vampires and reptilians. :(

Think about it. Most people in the rural areas are illiterate and if ever they squeal about 'aswangs', they are treated as ramblings of insane people. While at the same time, aswangs have been sighted near and around the big cities.

Yeah, there's a thread about Aswangs and a kid who was attacked by one.

i know what you mean about how Western culture is promoted in the Phillipines. A Filipino workmate of mine tutted and shook his head when he found out that the French president can't speak English! I like it that some people can't speak English; too many people speak it in my view! But my friend told me that speaking English in the Phillipines is a status symbol. Is that true?

grover66
29-01-2008, 02:29 PM
I have a question. HOW DID PRE-SPANISH ERA FILIPINOS KNOW THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE IN THE NORTH, AND BROWN PEOPLE ARE IN THE SOUTH and YELLOW people are in the east? In fact, how did they know that there are even White and Black people on this earth long before they were met by the Spanish? If they made up this story with pure native creativity, why didnt they say its Blue or Pink people?

That is really something amazing.

That is interesting! That rings a bell with something I read once, as in some sort of ancient story, where I remember thinking "But how could they have known that then??" I'll wrack my brain and try and remember what it was! Anyway, makes you think!!

cl2008
29-01-2008, 04:32 PM
Yeah, there's a thread about Aswangs and a kid who was attacked by one.

i know what you mean about how Western culture is promoted in the Phillipines. A Filipino workmate of mine tutted and shook his head when he found out that the French president can't speak English! I like it that some people can't speak English; too many people speak it in my view! But my friend told me that speaking English in the Phillipines is a status symbol. Is that true?

I went to 2 different schools in the Philippines.

The first one had a Tagalog curriculum but had English classes. During English class, if you speak Tagalog, you will be ignored. But the rest of the classes it is ok to ask the teachers questions in Tagalog.

As time went by my parents were able to accumulate some wealth and they decided to transfer me to a more 'elite' school that was run by Opus Dei. Part of the tuition was paid for by my dad's office or something like that because the tuition there is ridiculously expensive in Filipino standards.

In that 'elite' school, you are not allowed to ask questions in Tagalog in other subjects unless it is Filipino class

it was mostly the children of the elite (lol like doh!). The children of high ranking politicians and generals. And most of their children are materialistic spoiled brats. I SAW it with my own eyes how they decided to smash their own CDs for the hell of it. Back then, CD piracy wasnt rampant so CDs cost around PhP (philippine peso) 500 = roughly about $16 USD. PhP 500 is already the daily salary of the rank and file labourer!!!. So it was painful for me to watch.

Anyway in that school I was discouraged in speaking English because my brain associated it with the language of evil or something like that. So the more I stuck to my Tagalog roots.

That 'elite' school offered FREE night school for the children of the poor (yep so I could say that Opus Dei has some good in them and isnt a totally evil conspiracy)... so those people composed majority of my friends. The children of jeep drivers, tricycle drivers, janitors, construction workers, etc. etc. etc.

As time went by, due to some political bullshit in his office, my father decided to immigrate the whole family to Canada. IMO, Canada is better than the USA because they still have free health care and a peaceful nation in comparison to the USA. At least I know my tax dollars arent being used to buy bombs and kill Iraqis.

Anyway it took me about a year to adjust and speak English properly.


So there. In the Philippines, English is the status symbol of the elite. The elite speak that language. Most of their children speak English very good but at the same time, despise or look down on native Tagalog speakers. That is one of the things that make me sad thinking about my own people. Why cant we be like the Koreans, Chinese, or Japanese who stuck to their own roots? I understand why those other Asian people look down on us.

I brought this up in Filipino forums. To emphasize more the Tagalog language.

However I kept getting attacked with the following arguments:

- Eventually there will be a globalized society under a global government and English is the medium of communication.

- How do you translate technical terms into Tagalog?

- That is the only asset of the Filipino people and it actually helped the Philippine economy.

- What are you a fucking commie? (since commie websites are mostly written in Tagalog. Communism vs Capitalism is still a hot topic in Filipino forums)

- What are you? Pro-Marcos? (this dude was a dictator most of the time but he promoted Filipino culture to an extent.)

I told them:

Kung nasa pilipinas ka, magsalita ka ng Tagalog. Kung nasa USA ka magsalita ka ng Ingles
(If youre in the Philiippines, speak Tagalog. If you are in the USA, speak English)

:)