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tjohn
02-10-2011, 11:28 AM
I've been hesitant about passing this information on - it is so depressing. :(


http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/213249/20110913/solar-flare-could-unleash-nuclear-holocaust-across-planet-earth-forcing-hundreds-of-nuclear-power-pl.htm

Solar Flare Could Unleash Nuclear Holocaust Across Planet Earth, Forcing Hundreds of Nuclear Power Plants Into Total Meltdowns

September 14, 2011 9:55 AM EST
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(NaturalNews) Forget about the 2012 Mayan calendar, comet Elenin or the Rapture. The real threat to human civilization is far more mundane, and it's right in front of our noses. If Fukushima has taught us anything, it's that just one runaway meltdown of fissionable nuclear material can have wide-ranging and potentially devastating consequences for life on Earth.

To date, Fukushima has already released 168 times the total radiation released from the Hiroshima nuclear bomb detonated in 1945, and the Fukushima catastrophe is now undeniably the worst nuclear disaster in the history of human civilization.

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But what if human civilization faced a far greater threat than a single tsunami destroying a nuclear power facility? What if a global tidal wave could destroy the power generating capacities of all the world's power plants, all at once?

Such a scenario is not merely possible, but factually inevitable. And the global tidal wave threatening all the nuclear power plants of the world isn't made of water but solar emissions.

The sun, you see, is acting up again. NASA (http://au.ibtimes.com/topics/detail/192/nasa/) recently warned that solar activity is surging, with a peak expected to happen in 2013 that could generate enormous radiation levels that sweep across planet Earth. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has even issued an urgent warning about solar flares due to strike in 2012 and 2013. IBtimes wrote, "With solar activity expected to peak around 2013, the Sun is entering a particularly active time and big flares like the recent one will likely be common during the next few years. ...A major flare in the mid-19th century blocked the nascent telegraph system, and some scientists believe that another such event is now overdue." (http://www.IBTimes.com/articles/194... (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/194166/20110808/solar-storms-severe-solar-storms-earth-paralyse-carrington-event.htm))

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The story goes on to explain:
"Several federal government studies suggest that this extreme solar activity and emissions may result in complete blackouts for years in some areas of the nation. Moreover, there may also be disruption of power supply for years, or even decades, as geomagnetic currents attracted by the storm could debilitate the transformers."

Why does all this matter? To understand that, you have to understand how nuclear power plants function. Or, put another way, how is nuclear material prevented from "going nuclear" every single day across our planet?

Every nuclear power plant operates in a near-meltdown state

All nuclear power plants are operated in a near-meltdown status. They operate at very high heat, relying on nuclear fission to boil water that produces steam to drive the turbines that generate electricity. Critically, the nuclear fuel is prevented from melting down through the steady circulation of coolants which are pushed through the cooling system using very high powered electric pumps.

If you stop the electric pumps, the coolant stops flowing and the fuel rods go critical (and then melt down). This is what happened in Fukushima, where the melted fuel rods dropped through the concrete floor of the containment vessels, unleashing enormous quantities of ionizing radiation into the surrounding environment. The full extent of the Fukushima contamination is not even known yet, as the facility is still emitting radiation.

It's crucial to understand that nuclear coolant pumps are usually driven by power from the electrical grid. They are not normally driven by power generated locally from the nuclear power plant itself. Instead, they're connected to the grid. In other words, even though nuclear power plants are generating megawatts of electricity for the grid, they are also dependant on the grid to run their own coolant pumps.

If the grid goes down, the coolant pumps go down, too, which is why they are quickly switched to emergency backup power -- either generators or batteries.

As we learned with Fukushima, the on-site batteries can only drive the coolant pumps for around eight hours. After that, the nuclear facility is dependent on diesel generators (or sometimes propane) to run the pumps that circulate the coolant which prevents the whole site from going Chernobyl.

And yet, critically, this depends on something rather obvious: The delivery of diesel fuel to the site. If diesel cannot be delivered, the generators can't be fired up and the coolant can't be circulated. When you grasp the importance of this supply line dependency, you will instantly understand why a single solar flare could unleash a nuclear holocaust across the planet.

When the generators fail and the coolant pumps stop pumping, nuclear fuel rods begin to melt through their containment rods, unleashing ungodly amounts of life-destroying radiation directly into the atmosphere. This is precisely why Japanese engineers worked so hard to reconnect the local power grid to the Fukushima facility after the tidal wave -- they needed to bring power back to the generators to run the pumps that circulate the coolant.

This effort failed, of course, which is why Fukushima became such a nuclear disaster and released countless becquerels of radiation into the environment (with no end in sight).

And yet, despite the destruction we've already seen with Fukushima, U.S. nuclear power plants are nowhere near being prepared to handle sustained power grid failures.

As IBtimes reports:
"Last month, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission said U.S. plants affected by a blackout should be able to cope without electricity for at least eight hours and should have procedures to keep the reactor and spent-fuel pool cool for 72 hours. Nuclear plants depend on standby batteries and backup diesel generators. Most standby power systems would continue to function after a severe solar storm, but supplying the standby power systems with adequate fuel, when the main power grids are offline for years, could become a very critical problem. If the spent fuel rod pools at the country's 104 nuclear power plants lose their connection to the power grid, the current regulations aren't sufficient to guarantee those pools won't boil over -- exposing the hot, zirconium-clad rods and sparking fires that would release deadly radiation." (http://www.IBTimes.com/articles/194... (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/194166/20110808/solar-storms-severe-solar-storms-earth-paralyse-carrington-event.htm))

Now, what does all this have to do with solar flares?

How the end of modern civilization will most likely occur

As any sufficiently informed scientist will readily admit, solar flares have the potential to blow out the transformers throughout the national power grid. That's because solar flares induce geomagnetic currents (powerful electromagnetic impulses) which overload the transformers and cause them to explode.

You've probably witnessed this yourself during a lightning storm when lightning unleashes a powerful electromagnetic pulse that causes a local transformer to explode. Solar flares do the same thing on a much larger scale. A global scale, in fact.

The upshot of this situation is that suddenly and without warning, the power grid infrastructure across nearly the entire planet could be destroyed. As a bonus, nearly all satellites will be fried, too, leaving GPS inoperable and causing millions of clueless drivers to become forever lost in their own neighborhoods because they never paid attention to the streets and always relied on a GPS voice to tell them, "In fifty feet, turn right."
Communications satellites will be obliterated, too. This, of course, will halt nearly all news propaganda distribution across the planet, causing tens of thousands of people to instantly die out of the sheer fear of suddenly having to think for themselves. As another bonus, nearly all mobile phone service will be disrupted, too, meaning all the teenage text junkies of the world will, for the first time in their lives, be forced to lay down their iPhones and interact with real people in the real world.

But the real kicker in all this is that the power grid will be destroyed nearly everywhere.

What happens when there's no electricity?

Imagine a world without electricity. Even for just a week. Imagine New York (http://au.ibtimes.com/topics/detail/456/new-york/) City with no electricity, or Los Angeles, or Sao Paulo. Within 72 hours, most cities around the world will devolve into total chaos, complete with looting, violent crime, and runaway fires.

But that's not even the bad news. Even if all the major cities of the world burned to the ground for some other reason, humanity could still recover because it has the farmlands: the soils, the seeds, and the potential to recover, right?

And yet the real crisis here stems from the realization that once there is no power grid, all the nuclear power plants of the world suddenly go into "emergency mode" and are forced to rely on their on-site emergency power backups to circulate coolants and prevent nuclear meltdowns from occurring.

And yet, as we've already established, these facilities typically have only a few hours of battery power available, followed by perhaps a few days worth of diesel fuel to run their generators (or propane, in some cases).

Did I also mention that half the people who work at nuclear power facilities have no idea what they're doing in the first place? Most of the veterans who really know the facilities inside and out have been forced into retirement due to reaching their lifetime limits of on-the-job radiation exposure, so most of the workers at nuclear facilities right now are newbies who really have no clue what they're doing.

There are 440 nuclear power plants operating across 30 countries around the world today. There are an additional 250 so-called "research reactors" in existence, making a total of roughly 700 nuclear reactors to be dealt with (http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/i... (http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf01.html)).

Now imagine the scenario: You've got a massive solar flare that knocks out the world power grid and destroys the majority of the power grid transformers, thrusting the world into darkness. Cities collapse into chaos and rioting, martial law is quickly declared (but it hardly matters), and every nation in the world is on full emergency. But that doesn't solve the really big problem, which is that you've got 700 nuclear reactors that can't feed power into the grid (because all the transformers are blown up) and yet simultaneously have to be fed a steady stream of emergency fuels to run the generators the keep the coolant pumps functioning.

How long does the coolant need to circulate in these facilities to cool the nuclear fuel? Months. This is also the lesson of Fukushima: You can't cool nuclear fuel in mere hours or days. It takes months to bring these nuclear facilities to a state of cold shutdown. And that means in order to avoid a multitude of Fukushima-style meltdowns from occurring around the world, you need to truck diesel fuel, generator parts and nuclear plant workers to every nuclear facility on the planet, ON TIME, every time, without fail, for months on end.

Now remember, this must be done in the middle of the total chaos breakdown of modern civilization, where there is no power, where law enforcement and emergency services are totally overrun, where people are starving because food deliveries have been disrupted, and when looting and violent crime runs rampant in the streets of every major city in the world.

Somehow, despite all this, you have to run these diesel fuel caravans to the nuclear power plants and keep the pumps running. Except there's a problem in all this, even if you assume you can somehow work a logistical miracle and actually deliver the diesel fuel to the backup generators on time (which you probably can't).

The problem is this: Where do you get diesel fuel?

Why refineries will be shut down, too

From petroleum refineries. Most people don't realize it, but petroleum refineries run on electricity. Without the power grid, the refineries don't produce a drop of diesel. With no diesel, there are no generators keeping the coolant running in the nuclear power facilities.

But wait, you say: Maybe we could just acquire diesel from all the gas stations in the world. Pump it out of the ground, load it into trucks and use that to power the generators, right?

Except there are other problems here: How do you pump all that fuel without electricity? How do you acquire all the tires and spare parts needed to keep trucks running if there's no electricity to keep the supply businesses running? How do you maintain a truck delivery infrastructure when the electrical infrastructure is totally wiped out?

Some countries might be able to pull it off with some degree of success. With military escorts and the total government control over all fuel supplies, a few nations will be able to keep a few nuclear power facilities from melting down.

But here's the real issue: There are 700 nuclear power facilities in the world, remember? Let's suppose that in the aftermath of a massive solar flare, the nations of the world are somehow able to control half of those facilities and nurse them into cold shutdown status. That still leaves roughly 350 nuclear facilities at risk.

Now let's suppose half of those are somehow luckily offline and not even functioning when the solar flare hits, so they need no special attention. This is a very optimistic assumption, but that still leaves 175 nuclear power plants where all attempts fail.

Let's be outrageously optimistic and suppose that a third of those somehow don't go into a total meltdown by some miracle of God, or some bizarre twist in the laws of physics. So we're still left with 115 nuclear power plants that "go Chernobyl."

Fukushima was one power plant. Imagine the devastation of 100+ nuclear power plants, all going into meltdown all at once across the planet. It's not the loss of electricity that's the real problem; it's the global tidal wave of invisible radiation that blankets the planet, permeates the topsoil, irradiates everything that breathes and delivers the final crushing blow to human civilization as we know it today.

Because if you have 100 simultaneous global nuclear meltdowns, the tidal wave of radiation will make farming nearly impossible for years. That means no food production for several years in a row. And that, in turn, means a near-total collapse of the human population on our planet.

How many people can survive an entire year with no food from the farms? Not one in a hundred people. Even beyond that, how many people can essentially live underground and be safe enough from the radiation that they can have viable children and repopulate the planet? It's a very, very small fraction of the total population.

Solar flares far more likely to hit nuclear power plants than tidal waves or earthquakes

What's the chance of all this actually happening? A report by the Oak Ridge National Laboratory said that "...over the standard 40-year license term of nuclear power plants, solar flare activity enables a 33 percent chance of long-term power loss, a risk that significantly outweighs that of major earthquakes and tsunamis." (http://www.IBTimes.com/articles/194... (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/194166/20110808/solar-storms-severe-solar-storms-earth-paralyse-carrington-event.htm))

The world's reliance on nuclear power, you see, has doomed us to destroy our own civilization. Of course, this is all preventable if we would only dismantle and shut down ALL nuclear power plants on the planet. But what are the chances of that happening? Zero, of course. There are too many commercial and political interests invested in nuclear power.

So the power plants will stay, and we will therefore be vulnerable to a solar flare which could strike us at any time and unleash a global nuclear holocaust. Planet Earth has been struck by solar flares before, of course, but all the big hits in recorded human history took place long before the age of modern electronics, so the impacts were minimal. Today, society cannot function without electronics. Nor can nuclear facility coolant pumps. Once you realize that, you begin to understand the true danger in which humanity has placed itself by relying on nuclear power.

By relying on nuclear power, we are risking everything. And we're doing it blindly, with no real acknowledgement of the dangers of running 700+ nuclear facilities in a constant state of "near meltdown" while foolishly relying on the steady flow of electricity to keep the fuel rods cool. If Fukushima, all by itself, could unleash a tidal wave of deadly radiation all by itself, imagine a world where hundreds of nuclear facilities go into a total meltdown simultaneously.

A repeat of the 1859 solar storm -- called the Carrington Event -- would "devastate the modern world," admits a National Geographic article: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/... (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/03/110302-solar-flares-sun-storms-earth-danger-carrington-event-science/)

What can you do about any of this? Build yourself an underground bunker and prepare to live in it for an extended period of time. (Just a few feet of soil protects you from most radiation.) The good news is that if you survive it all and one day return to the surface to plant your non-hybrid seeds and begin rebuilding human society, real estate will be really, really cheap. Especially in the radiation zones.


Take this seriously! Read more from NASA (http://au.ibtimes.com/topics/detail/192/nasa/)

http://www.space.com/12580-sun-unle... (http://www.space.com/12580-sun-unleashes-major-solar-flare.html)
http://science.nasa.gov/science-new... (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/06may_carringtonflare/)


From NASA:
"Just before dawn the next day, skies all over planet Earth erupted in red, green, and purple auroras so brilliant that newspapers could be read as easily as in daylight. Indeed, stunning auroras pulsated even at near tropical latitudes over Cuba (http://au.ibtimes.com/topics/detail/470/cuba/), the Bahamas, Jamaica, El Salvador, and Hawaii. Even more disconcerting, telegraph systems worldwide went haywire. Spark discharges shocked telegraph operators and set the telegraph paper on fire. Even when telegraphers disconnected the batteries powering the lines, aurora-induced electric currents in the wires still allowed messages to be transmitted..."

"...as electronic technologies have become more sophisticated and more embedded into everyday life, they have also become more vulnerable to solar activity. On Earth, power lines and long-distance telephone cables might be affected by auroral currents, as happened in 1989. Radar, cell phone communications, and GPS receivers could be disrupted by solar radio noise. Experts who have studied the question say there is little to be done to protect satellites from a Carrington-class flare. In fact, a recent paper estimates potential damage to the 900-plus satellites currently in orbit could cost between $30 billion and $70 billion."

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033564_solar_flares_nuclear_power_plants.html#ixzz 1XwQjcebM


This article was first published on Natural News (http://naturalnews.com/).



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Bunch of Optimist here.
Although information through ice, tree rings and particular isotopes can tell how often a massive X class flair has hit the planet, this data is rather hard to find. To date I see clearly that every 150+ years or so a massive X class does hit the planet and it is a “normal” part of the solar systems business.

To be so naive that you think it can’t happen anytime is simple just that; naive.

I would assume that what happened in 1859 could have been enough to cause such a disaster in this day in time, and it’s just a matter of time when the next one comes. It’s been happening for millions of years. The one main difference is that we have technology. Hear today, gone tomorrow.

What the author doesn’t mention is that a strong enough flare would eliminate the use of about anything with microelectronics, including transportation.

If I had to pick a real doomsday, out of all the science or religious beliefs, a solar flare is where I would put my money.

princessofwands
02-10-2011, 12:59 PM
yeah, it doesn't bear thinking about. :(

king triad
02-10-2011, 01:25 PM
Is this the daily dose of fear?..what does it have to do with ufo's?...

tjohn
02-10-2011, 05:21 PM
Is this the daily dose of fear?..what does it have to do with ufo's?...
The forum isn't just about UFOs. It is also about the Solar System and Space.

Solar Flare Warning - NewWaveSlave.com - YouTubewww.youtube.com/watch?v=oNiLe-eMaPo

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.www.youtube.com/watch?v=--2xYbdwJsA

Amazing video of massive solar flare erupting from surface of Sun - YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFb7OZx2NYo&NR=1

tjohn
02-10-2011, 05:28 PM
yeah, it doesn't bear thinking about. :(
Well it might not happen to us on Earth this time around but we would be very lucky if it didn't.

majorlee
02-10-2011, 07:54 PM
Well it might not happen to us on Earth this time around but we would be very lucky if it didn't.

we would be having HUGE debates on many matters if those flares hit earth full on last week

Solar storm of 1859 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


a bit more recent...


March 1989 geomagnetic storm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Quebec blackout

The variations in the earth's magnetic field also tripped circuit breakers on Hydro-Québec's power grid. The utility's very long transmission lines and the fact that most of Quebec sits on a large rock shield prevented current flowing through the earth, finding a less resistant path along the 735 kV power lines.[6]

The James Bay network went offline in less than 90 seconds, giving Quebec its second massive blackout in 11 months.[7] The power failure lasted 9 hours and forced the company to implement various mitigation strategies, including raising the trip level, installing series compensation on ultra high voltage lines and upgrading various monitoring and operational procedures. Other utilities in North America, the UK, Northern Europe and elsewhere implemented programs to reduce the risks associated with geomagnetically induced currents.

hobo
02-10-2011, 08:16 PM
When will scientists and high level decision-makers realize that nuclear power just isn´t safe? If Fukushima wasn´t enough to wake them up, what will?

majorlee
02-10-2011, 08:24 PM
When will scientists and high level decision-makers realize that nuclear power just isn´t safe? If Fukushima wasn´t enough to wake them up, what will?

nuclear power is safe

it depends on how you use it and WHO is in charge of the safety

hobo
02-10-2011, 08:43 PM
nuclear power is safe

it depends on how you use it and WHO is in charge of the safety

As long as it is impossible to guard an atomic power-plant against every single eventuality, I consider it unsafe. Besides history has proven time and time again that it´s profit that matters most to the authorities, not securing the safety of the people.

tjohn
03-10-2011, 01:46 AM
nuclear power is safe

it depends on how you use it and WHO is in charge of the safetyNo matter who's in charge, they are not safe against the power of the Sun and there's nothing anyone can do about the Sun itself.

tjohn
03-10-2011, 02:04 AM
we would be having HUGE debates on many matters if those flares hit earth full on last week

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859


a bit more recent...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1989_geomagnetic_stormIf a big one comes our way, we wouldn't be able to debate anything on here.

No electricity, no tap water (uses electric pumps), no banks open, no shops open, no transport, no hospitals or emergency services, no TV or radio, no phones or internet (or other means of electronic communication)...

To top it all if it is bad enough, the power stations blow... so if we don't die from starvation we die from radiation. Not something to look forward to. I hope it doesn't happen this time around but odds are one day it will.

We should have stayed with the horse and cart.

tjohn
03-10-2011, 02:36 AM
Of course the media will to an extent play it down because TPTB don't want people to panic.

However, here's something to look for... if you see florescent lamps lighting up by themselves, then you know we are in BIG trouble.

majorlee
03-10-2011, 03:35 AM
As long as it is impossible to guard an atomic power-plant against every single eventuality, I consider it unsafe. Besides history has proven time and time again that it´s profit that matters most to the authorities, not securing the safety of the people.

Nuclear Fission is very dangerous

but fusion....???

so to say nuclear power is dangerous is not completly true i guess this is what i was getting at


and i agree with ur last sentance :)

tjohn
03-10-2011, 04:00 AM
Nuclear Fission is very dangerous

but fusion....???

so to say nuclear power is dangerous is not completely true i guess this is what i was getting at


and i agree with ur last sentence :)Excuse me for butting in. How many nuclear power stations use nuclear fusion? Answer: None!

princessofwands
03-10-2011, 08:38 AM
Of course the media will to an extent play it down because TPTB don't want people to panic.

However, here's something to look for... if you see florescent lamps lighting up by themselves, then you know we are in BIG trouble.

Round about the 27th Sept. when a few solar flares were hitting us, the strip lights under my kitchen cupboards suddenly wouldn't work. Both of them! I flicked the switches on and off a few times. I switched on the kettle as it is plugged into the socket below where the lights are wired into the wall. It worked.

Then my hubby came in the kitchen and flicked the lights and they WORKED AGAIN!

:confused: :D :confused:

So I'll be watching whether they turn themselves on...or off again. :eek:

Why do solar flares do that??

tjohn
03-10-2011, 01:47 PM
Round about the 27th Sept. when a few solar flares were hitting us, the strip lights under my kitchen cupboards suddenly wouldn't work. Both of them! I flicked the switches on and off a few times. I switched on the kettle as it is plugged into the socket below where the lights are wired into the wall. It worked.

Then my hubby came in the kitchen and flicked the lights and they WORKED AGAIN!

:confused: :D :confused:

So I'll be watching whether they turn themselves on...or off again. :eek:

Why do solar flares do that??To be fair, what you experienced could simply be due to power fluctuations. If you see them on when the switch is off, then obviously the power to light them is not coming from your electricity supply. :eek:

I have a shed in my garden with a solar panel that charges up batteries to power LED lights and the off-load voltage from the solar panel is normally around 24 volts in direct sunlight.

A few days ago I went into my shed and found that the batteries were not fully charged - so I checked the voltage from the solar panel and it showed only around 5 volts in direct sunlight! :confused:

Today it's somewhat overcast and also because of the angle of the Sun, shadows of trees are in the way - yet my solar panel is producing around 19 volts. Compare that to around 5 volts the other day when in direct sunlight!

Something odd is going on. Can powerful cosmic rays or high energy particles from the Sun, affect the efficiency of solar panels? In effect shorting out the panels so the don't work as good in visible light? It would seem so.

princessofwands
03-10-2011, 06:25 PM
That is certainly very curious.

Have you read about the photon belt or the ribbon on the edge of space that our solar system is now moving into (and for thousands of years). Apparently it's going to change everything. But exactly in what way, no-one knows.

:)

tjohn
04-10-2011, 02:41 AM
We've been reading about the frightening prospect of nuclear power stations melting down because of cooling system failure - which will likely happen because massive solar ejections could be headed for Earth in the near future.

So here's an idea for cooling that does not need electricity or pumps and is self powered by convection. Build a tall tower with two pipes running inside it. At the top of the tower is a large tank which has cooling fins and above the tank there's a roof to protect the tank from the heat of the sun.

As we know, hot water rises and because the tower is tall, we have a sort of chimney effect - where the taller the tower is, the faster the water runs up the pipe and into the top of the cooling tank. Taken from the bottom of the tank, the cooled water runs down the second pipe to complete the convection circuit.

That second pipe, the return pipe from the tank, has cooling fins and there's a partition in the tower between it and the tank input pipe. At the bottom of the tower on the outgoing pipe side from the tank, there's a hole to let air in and at the top of the tower a chimney which rises above the tank to let warmed air out.

To make the cooling more efficient an extended idea would be to have the return pipe going into the sea before returning to the power station but this will only last so long, before becoming corroded or covered in barnacles.

Ideas such as above could serve as a backup, in case (for whatever reason) cooling pumps fail. It will cost money and manpower - but if there are massive solar flares coming our way which is very likely, in the long run it will save money and more importantly save lives. Cool! :cool:


But what about protecting the computer systems? ohoh... :o

tjohn
04-10-2011, 02:49 AM
That is certainly very curious.

Have you read about the photon belt or the ribbon on the edge of space that our solar system is now moving into (and for thousands of years). Apparently it's going to change everything. But exactly in what way, no-one knows.

:)Not heard about anything like that on the edge of space (wherever that might be).

What you could be talking about is that our solar system lines up with the plane of our galaxy and some people are saying that energy is coming along the plane (from the center of our galaxy) will have effects on us on Earth.

Scientists, while acknowledging that the solar system does line up with the plane of the galaxy every so many thousand years, say that this is nothing to worry about. Are they telling us the truth? I really don't know.

dude111
05-10-2011, 02:11 AM
There are 440 nuclear power plants operating across 30 countries around the world today.Which should all be SHUT DOWN!!

tjohn
06-10-2011, 04:41 AM
Let me try and get this right. The coolant pumps are connected to the power grid, rather being connected directly to nuclear power stations. The reason for this I guess, is because if something goes wrong with a nuclear power station, there will at least be electricity available to keep the coolant pumps going to prevent meltdown.

But, not if there are massive solar storms - something they apparently don't think can ever happen.

The power grid acts like a giant antenna and with a large solar storm, massive amounts of energy will induced into the grid - hence power transformers can blow up, leaving people without electricity and also leaving power stations without an electric supply for the coolant pumps.

What's more, even if transformers have not blown (and possibly even if they have) large electric surges can go into power stations and knock out the computers. Perhaps worse still, the coolant pumps can be damaged by surges from the power lines and in my opinion will likely happen, if solar fares come our way and are large enough.

We might think we can control nuclear power stations but we cannot control the Sun. And because of the dangers of meltdown, nuclear power stations need to be disconnected from the grid and closed down while the solar storm passes. Better still, close them down forever because they are obviously not safe.

tjohn
06-10-2011, 07:02 AM
When will scientists and high level decision-makers realize that nuclear power just isn´t safe? If Fukushima wasn´t enough to wake them up, what will?When nuclear power stations go into meltdown in their own territory perhaps? Too late then.