I just realized I need to purify

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I need to purify myself. Not just body, but thoughts aswell..

We have protesters outside our building, protesting animal testing, and, I'm not gonna go into it real deep, but we don't do the testing, I'll say that much.

But I had an idea to, go pick up some burger meat at a store, and hang a sign outside the window asking if they want their bunny back, then throw the meat at them....


I know.. That's just wrong. Purely wrong.

And I know it. but I still laugh....


How would you all purify yourselfs?

[ho1ogram]

I dunno, I'm pure bullshit.

[i am all i am]

I need to purify myself. Not just body, but thoughts aswell..

We have protesters outside our building, protesting animal testing, and, I'm not gonna go into it real deep, but we don't do the testing, I'll say that much.

But I had an idea to, go pick up some burger meat at a store, and hang a sign outside the window asking if they want their bunny back, then throw the meat at them....


I know.. That's just wrong. Purely wrong.

And I know it. but I still laugh....


How would you all purify yourselfs?


I would use maijuana and mushroom as a preference.

Actually, any hallucinogen that came from nature would do it for me.

The perfect way to alter your state of conciousness.

You could purify your body by following a vegan lifestyle. Of course this would mean that you might become inclined to join the protestors and would look to free as many bunnies as you could.


With LOVE.

[limelady]

But I had an idea to, go pick up some burger meat at a store, and hang a sign outside the window asking if they want their bunny back, then throw the meat at them....

h1s_l0rdsh1p honey-pie, thats just wrong!

Naughty, naughty for having such 'wrong' thoughts.

For punishment... ahem....I mean purification, I suggest a 20 minutes soak in a bath tub of strong bleach! :D

[lumukanda]

h1s_l0rdsh1p honey-pie, thats just wrong!


but it would be damn funny!

[astral]

The Master Cleanse!

http://www.therawfoodsite.com/mastercleanse.htm

[garth]

Dude (or is it Dood??) thats just wrong...I don't mean to condemn..but mate..:(

To purify your mind, you need some peace away from the matrix distractions and noise, then you will be able to think and deal with the shit that lies deep beneath the surface, the stuff that don't come out when you are pre occupied doing matrix stuff. Dig that shit out and deal with it, dispose of it, work it through, release it. :D

[21_12_2012]

I would use maijuana and mushroom as a preference.

Actually, any hallucinogen that came from nature would do it for me.

The perfect way to alter your state of conciousness.

Drugs aren't, and never were, an answer to purifying one's self.
Drugs offer a false sense of security and in fact cause self-deception.

Other than a professionally supervised course of ayahuasca in the amazon jungle, supervised by a lifelong shaman, drugs are to be avoided at all costs.

Take it from someone who has first hand experiences of the evils of drugs.

Drugs 'shelve' problems, and actually increase them.

They solve and purify nothing whatsoever.

What Garth says is more like correct.:-

To purify your mind, you need some peace away from the matrix distractions and noise, then you will be able to think and deal with the shit that lies deep beneath the surface, the stuff that don't come out when you are pre occupied doing matrix stuff. Dig that shit out and deal with it, dispose of it, work it through, release it.

[i am all i am]

Drugs is, and never was, an answer to purifying one's self.
Drugs offer a false sense of security and in fact cause self-deception.

Other than a professionally supervised course of ayahuasca in the amazon jungle, supervised by a lifelong shaman, drugs are to be avoided at all costs.

Take it from someone who has first hand experiences of the evils of drugs.

Drugs 'shelve' problems, and actually increase them.

They solve and purify nothing whatsoever.


Drugs is a term that I relate to man-made, chemical concoctions.

That which is found in Nature is a gift, and when respected, can help you access altered states of conciousness, purifying both the mind and the body.

My own personal experience has given me an even deeper respect and understanding of all life.

For your own research, I suggest Jack herer's site (The Emperor Wears No Clothes book) and erowid.org for more information.


With LOVE.
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[notaslave]

With a bit of Beethoven Ode to Joy Choral - that would do it (for me anyway)

[21_12_2012]

Drugs is a term that I relate to man-made, chemical concoctions.

That which is found in Nature is a gift, and when respected, can help you access altered states of conciousness, purifying both the mind and the body.

My own personal experience has given me an even deeper respect and understanding of all life.

For your own research, I suggest Jack herer's site (The Emperor Wears No Clothes book) and erowid.org for more information.


With LOVE.
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With respect....i don't need to read anything....I've been to erowid countless times when I lived in the 'dark days' of drug abuse.

20 years of cannabis addiction...over 10 years of amphetamine sulphate addiction....and numerous 'bad experiences' on magic mushrooms have done nothing to purify/educate or improve me.

Not everyone gets addicted to cannabis/marijuana, but all my 'old friends' did, and so did I, even though people don't like to admit it, and would rather say "I like smoking weed every day, I don't want to stop' ...the truth is they're addicted, and it's doing them no good whatsoever except 'shelving' their problems, and causing self-deceit (big-time).

Living in delusion is never an answer.

Face your 'negative' aspects, and release them.

Drugs never help. Take it from someone who knows.

[i am all i am]

With respect....i don't need to read anything....I've been to erowid countless times when I lived in the 'dark days' of drug abuse.

20 years of cannabis addiction...over 10 years of amphetamine sulphate addiction....and numerous 'bad experiences' on magic mushrooms have done nothing to purify/educate or improve me.

Not everyone gets addicted to cannabis/marijuana, but all my 'old friends' did, and so did I, even though people don't like to admit it, and would rather say "I like smoking weed every day, I don't want to stop' ...the truth is they're addicted, and it's doing them no good whatsoever except 'shelving' their problems, and causing self-deceit (big-time).

Living in delusion is never an answer.

Face your 'negative' aspects, and release them.

Drugs never help. Take it from someone who knows.


You are merely blaming an outside source and not able to "face your 'negative' aspects". Your attitude created the circumstances of your experience. My attitude created my experiences, and for me, they have all been positive.


With LOVE.
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[21_12_2012]

You are merely blaming an outside source and not able to "face your 'negative' aspects". Your attitude created the circumstances of your experience. My attitude created my experiences, and for me, they have all been positive.


With LOVE.
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On the contrary, drugs caused negativity within my life. My attitude was ok before i used drugs.

They did not help me regarding any aspect of my life, apart from to free me from my problems while i was high.

They offered me no insights into myself whatsoever, they made me lazy and un-sociable. Also they caused manic symptoms within all my 'old friends' personalities and myself.

I saw perfectly 'normal', happy, intelligent, care-free people transformed into monsters just by cannabis use alone.

Since i gave drugs up i have never felt better, and have had more insights into myself through meditation and crystals than any drug ever gave me.

The only drug which has 'enlightened' me, which i still use very occasionally, and which i would not advise anybody to use, is MDMA.
I have actually experienced oneness and out-of-the-body experiences using MDMA, but the sheer unpredictablilty between the various pills make this drug a highly dangerous and unpredictable way of experiencing 'other dimensions' unless you know of a good source of MDMA and 'trustworthy' people to buy from.

Even the best MDMA causes 'suicidal-type' downers, which outweigh the good points.

ALL drugs hold you back, and do not benefit people in the slightest.
Anyone who thinks they do should try to give them up and then see if they still feel 'enlightened'.

[edelweiss pirate]

Not everyone gets addicted to cannabis/marijuana, but all my 'old friends' did, and so did I, even though people don't like to admit it, and would rather say "I like smoking weed every day, I don't want to stop' ...the truth is they're addicted, and it's doing them no good whatsoever except 'shelving' their problems, and causing self-deceit (big-time).

Weed is great. For instant consiousness expansion smoke a J.

If you have any problems you don't know the answer to it often helps me to smoke one, I often find I can be self critical when stoned but that means I'm seeing the truth and not protecting my ego...

Only problem with weed is that it's too nice... It's hard to resist smoking everyday when it offers instant relaxation...

Still I need to start writing more songs now so I'm determined not to get stoned for at least two weeks.... I'm no practical use to anyone and good for nothing, when I'm stoned...

[i am all i am]

What you give out, you get back.

While you continue to blame an outside/external source for YOUR self created experience, you merely disempower who you truly are.

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You are merely blaming an outside source and not able to "face your 'negative' aspects". Your attitude created the circumstances of your experience. My attitude created my experiences, and for me, they have all been positive.
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With LOVE.
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[21_12_2012]

Weed is great. For instant consiousness expansion smoke a J

It actually links the 2 hemispheres of the brain, which appears to be expansion whilst high. It is temporary, and it is better known as Self-deceit.

If you have any problems you don't know the answer to it often helps me to smoke one, I often find I can be self critical when stoned but that means I'm seeing the truth and not protecting my ego...

Once again, it's self deceit, it tricks the brain into thinking it knows all the answers, and everything 'seems right' or 'feels right'...but...try analysing those same 'right answers' when you're sober...you'll find they were 'rubbish'

Only problem with weed is that it's too nice... It's hard to resist smoking everyday when it offers instant relaxation...

Addicted is the word...psychologically, and physically...i know..i have experienced a psychological and physical 'cold turkey' from cannabis withdrawal...it is very real.

Still I need to start writing more songs now so I'm determined not to get stoned for at least two weeks.... I'm no practical use to anyone and good for nothing, when I'm stoned...

That's more like the truth.
Being stoned is totally useless....it just tricks the brain into thinking it is usefull.

[edelweiss pirate]

Oh God you sound like my dad...


Thankf for pointing out that weed 'unites the two hemispheres of the brain'.. This is actually a goal of many esoteric techniques ranging from Ron Silver Mind Control to yoga meditation...

So there is some good in weed, knew it!

What's your angle anyway 2012? Why do you hate teh sacred herb so much... It's natural man, it'l like hating cheese or oak trees..

Naturalia non sunt turpia.

[21_12_2012]

What you give out, you get back.

While you continue to blame an outside/external source for YOUR self created experience, you merely disempower who you truly are.

As i said previously, my attitude/lifestyle was excellent before i was introduced to drugs (cannabis/marijuana was the first drug)

My circle of friends also had positive attitudes and outlooks on life until they also were introduced to cannabis/marijuana.

So, far from being a 'self-created' experience as you so wrongly put it, drugs actually caused the negative attitudes and negative experiences within my life and my positive friends lives also.

So, as you wrongly wrote in your original post, that marijuana can purify one's self...i am correcting that and presenting facts which actually undermine that statement and show it for what it really is.....'un-factual'

NO drugs (including mushrooms and marijuana) will purify you, or in fact help you out positively in any way (like i keep saying, correctly)

All they will do is to hold you back, and create an addict out of you, even though you refuse to admit it.

Believe me, i know what it's like to defend cannabis and deny the addiction..i lived it for 20 years.

[21_12_2012]

Oh God you sound like my dad...


Thankf for pointing out that weed 'unites the two hemispheres of the brain'.. This is actually a goal of many esoteric techniques ranging from Ron Silver Mind Control to yoga meditation...

So there is some good in weed, knew it!

What's your angle anyway 2012? Why do you hate teh sacred herb so much... It's natural man, it'l like hating cheese or oak trees..

Naturalia non sunt turpia.

And you sound like i was when i was addicted...and how some of my old friends were when they were addicted.

Yes it temporarily unites the hemispheres of the brain, but so what ? What good does that do when the rest of the brain is like jelly, and can't be bothered to do anything about this 'enlightenment' that lasts a few minutes...wow...

Why do i hate the sacred herb so much? I thought you'd be able to tell by my previous posts...it is addictive...and it serves no purpose whatsoever...it's a self-deceiver...personally i like to know where i stand with myself, rather than a drug causing me to lie to myself about who i am and what i am.

NOBODY can tell me about cannabis....I've lived it, I've investigated it for 20 years, I've been addicted for 20years, I've fought it...and I've beaten it.

[edelweiss pirate]

You're too dogmatic...

All things in moderation.... Just 'cos you wasted 20 years that's your prob... some have more adictive personalities than others...

Personally I look back on the 12 months were I grew my own, sunbathed, swam in the Hampstead ponds every day, taught myself guitar as the time of my life... no job no pressure just live lived at my own tempo..

We don'l all have the same experience.. Granted weed can make you waste a lot of your time, you just need a system and self discipline... Like only smoke with coffee or go for a run first...

If you're stressed out there is NOTHING better than a spliff.

[21_12_2012]

What's your angle anyway 2012? Why do you hate teh sacred herb so much... It's natural man, it'l like hating cheese or oak trees..

Naturalia non sunt turpia.

Opium is natural too 'man' and heroin is naturally derived from it.....cocaine leaves are natural too 'man'

Shall we all turn to smack and coke and claim 'it's natural man'

[i am all i am]

Other than a professionally supervised course of ayahuasca in the amazon jungle, supervised by a lifelong shaman, drugs are to be avoided at all costs.


NO drugs (including mushrooms and marijuana) will purify you, or in fact help you out positively in any way (like i keep saying, correctly)
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Do you notice any contradiction in these statements 21 12 2012 ?????

With LOVE.
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[21_12_2012]

You're too dogmatic...

And you're too stoned to realise you're addicted probably !

All things in moderation.... Just 'cos you wasted 20 years that's your prob... some have more adictive personalities than others...

Who said they've wasted 20 years of their life? Not me ! I was lucky i had a strong personality and a strong mind. Strong enough to not go onto harder drugs like heroin, crack, injecting amphetamines etc.

Most people do not have a strong enough mind to resist other drugs when offered to them. Or to stop using another drug that is potentially harmful.
So instead of 'wasting' those 20 years, I actually worked and achieved things to the best of my ability, whereas my 'old friends' did not much at all apart from sell drugs, get into harder drugs, get into crime and be unemployed.

Personally I look back on the 12 months were I grew my own, sunbathed, swam in the Hampstead ponds every day, taught myself guitar as the time of my life... no job no pressure just live lived at my own tempo

Personally, i look at it as a drug, which makes you satisfied with having 'less' than the 'normal un-drugged' person would settle for.

We don'l all have the same experience.. Granted weed can make you waste a lot of your time, you just need a system and self discipline... Like only smoke with coffee or go for a run first...

Bollocks.

It's an addictive drug...full stop..there's no self discipline involved.
And if you think there is, try stopping smoking it, you'll soon see how 'harmless' it is.

If you're stressed out there is NOTHING better than a spliff.

Bollocks again.

I take it you're still a virgin.

[lilloz]

It seems simple to me some people have good experiences with drugs others have bad experiences, neither one of you is correct yet you both are correct in what you say.

It all depends on the person.

[edelweiss pirate]

That's pretty silly isn't it... Ayahuasca's Ok but mushrooms aren't?

What nonsense...

Anyway, it's your opinion 2012... Weed sucked for you, ok. As for me it saved me from schizophrenia... for which I am eternally grateful. It has been shown to relieve the symptoms of schizophrenia for sufferers..

Heavy use however I agree, is not very useful... But then if you eat too many carrots you turn orange and die from beta carotene poisoning... All things in moderation...

[i am all i am]

What you give out, you get back.

While you continue to blame an outside/external source for YOUR self created experience, you merely disempower who you truly are.

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You are merely blaming an outside source and not able to "face your 'negative' aspects". Your attitude created the circumstances of your experience. My attitude created my experiences, and for me, they have all been positive.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

With LOVE.
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As i said previously, my attitude/lifestyle was excellent before i was introduced to drugs
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If your "attitude/lifestyle was excellent", why did YOU CHOOSE to use marijuana ???


YOUR CHOICE and attitude created your experience.


With LOVE.

[21_12_2012]

Other than a professionally supervised course of ayahuasca in the amazon jungle, supervised by a lifelong shaman, drugs are to be avoided at all costs.


NO drugs (including mushrooms and marijuana) will purify you, or in fact help you out positively in any way (like i keep saying, correctly)
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Do you notice any contradiction in these statements 21 12 2012 ?????

With LOVE.
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Actually no !

Purging in the amazon...purging out negative energy and negative miasms, is a bit different to sitting there with a spliff in your mouth pretending drugs are OK.
And magic mushrooms, what did they ever achieve ?
ermm nothing..that's right...apart from paranoia....and a tiny insight into the fact that we live in an illusion....wow.....

[edelweiss pirate]

Bollocks again.

I take it you're still a virgin.

2012.. you're a moron. A moron with an addictive personality. Remind me never to invite you over for a drink..

[21_12_2012]

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As i said previously, my attitude/lifestyle was excellent before i was introduced to drugs
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If your "attitude/lifestyle was excellent", why did YOU CHOOSE to use marijuana ???


YOUR CHOICE and attitude created your experience.


With LOVE.

So you're saying you have to have a bad attitude to choose to smoke marijuana ?

errmmmm OK..

What about drinking a cup of tea...do you have to have a bad attitude to do that?

[21_12_2012]

2012.. you're a moron.

And you're full of it ! And a drug addict...

Shame !

[edelweiss pirate]

I wish the davidickeforum.com was up.

I would invite you over there and tear you into tiny peices.

We have to be polite here but idiots like you test my limits of idiot tolerance.

[21_12_2012]

I need to purify myself. Not just body, but thoughts aswell..

We have protesters outside our building, protesting animal testing, and, I'm not gonna go into it real deep, but we don't do the testing, I'll say that much.

But I had an idea to, go pick up some burger meat at a store, and hang a sign outside the window asking if they want their bunny back, then throw the meat at them....


I know.. That's just wrong. Purely wrong.

And I know it. but I still laugh....


How would you all purify yourselfs?

Once again, back to the subject...

Don't let
edelweiss pirate or
i am all i am

tell you that drugs will help you in ANY WAY whatsoever.

Anyone reading this, i would advise you to DON'T TRY ANY DRUGS EVER.

The ONLY people that endorse drugs as being in any way good for you, are the people who are actually addicted to them themselves.

Like i was for 20 years.

And like it appears edelwiess pirate and i am all i am are.

It's a shame...but thats how drug-users communicate...by encouraging others to do as they do (namely taking drugs which do not benefit anyone) so you are down to their level.

Do yourselves a favour, DON'T TAKE DRUGS !
Be above these people.

[i am all i am]

I am going on a fast before i switch to only cows and fish then i was goign to do another going vegan.

I can't go vegan right now because i'm using fish oil everyday to try and bring some clairity back into my mind.

My diet now looks like...

Fish oils

Mineral water

1-2 weeks...

Marajuana on a fast now that's got to be an idea...?


G'day GFG, how you doin' brother ?

With regards to diet...

Mike Adams, The Health Ranger - great website, good links.

milksucks.com - heaps of info. and plenty of links.

Also have a look at Jack Herer's website. Great info. on the benefits of marijuana. If you choose to smoke, make sure it's naturally grown, no chemicals.


With LOVE.

[21_12_2012]

I wish the davidickeforum.com was up.

I would invite you over there and tear you into tiny peices.

We have to be polite here but idiots like you test my limits of idiot tolerance.

Oh, you mean idiots like me who aren't addicted to drugs like you.

Fair enough.

I doubt you could rip yourself out of a wet paper bag sonny.

[edelweiss pirate]

Whatever, noone agrees with you... as usual.... so it's probably time for you to shuffle off to the New Age nutjob fruitloop forum where your mad ideas may find comfort in the reciprocal insanity of fellow zombies...

I've better things to do than trade insults with a bad tempered bully like you.

This was a good thread until you stuck your nose in.

[lilloz]

These are just opinions, opinions that don’t really matter in the big scheme of things, people have different views and opinions is all walks of life does it really matter that much that you have to start mud slinging!!

We are all different we all experience life in different ways, I thought we were all a bit more enlightened than to argue over this sort of bullshit.

[edelweiss pirate]

He started it.... Insulting people and getting bad tempered.

But I'm off anyway....

[i am all i am]

So you're saying you have to have a bad attitude to choose to smoke marijuana ?

errmmmm OK..

What about drinking a cup of tea...do you have to have a bad attitude to do that?


Obviously you're having difficulty understanding, so I'll clarify the question for you.

Why would YOU CHOOSE to smoke marijuana ??? and continue to CHOOSE to smoke it, when you say that you had nothing but bad experiences from it ???

If your attitude and lifestyle were excellent, for what purpose would you continue to put yourself through the 'bad experience' of taking the drugs that you did ??? Are you saying that one marijuana experience turned you into an addict ???

So no I'm not saying that at all.


With LOVE.

[notaslave]

His Lordship should be woken up and see what a fuss he created with his bunny thoughts.

I sentence him (whilst he aint here) to committing 10 random acts of kindness within his community this weekend.

[edelweiss pirate]

Dude... you're seriously flaky...

[21_12_2012]

I thought exactly the same about weed when i first started smoking it. Moderation = safety

Then i tried to stop taking it. And i couldn't. I found myself 'psychologically addicted' ....but...i enjoyed smoking it....or at least it 'tricked my brain' into believing i would rather be stoned than sober.

You don't have to believe what i tell you about me and my friends who went through the same addictions, but it's true all the same.

I was addicted to weed longer than you've actually been alive for GFG, so i would think i know what i am talking about.

I'm not on here to argue, I am on here to state facts.

The facts are:- myself and every one of my 'old friends' became addicted to weed. It's as simple as that.

It did not benefit us, in fact it hindered us.
Take that how you like.

Funny coincidence that all of us must have had 'addictive personalities' eh? Or is it that weed is actually psychologically (and in my case physically) addictive.

I'd like to see the weed smokers on here give up for a month without any ill effects.
I personally haven't smoked weed for over a year now and never will again. It took me over 9 months for my brain to become 'normal' again after i gave up.

That's my story anyway. And it is the truth.

[21_12_2012]

Obviously you're having difficulty understanding, so I'll clarify the question for you.

Why would YOU CHOOSE to smoke marijuana ??? and continue to CHOOSE to smoke it, when you say that you had nothing but bad experiences from it ???

If your attitude and lifestyle were excellent, for what purpose would you continue to put yourself through the 'bad experience' of taking the drugs that you did ??? Are you saying that one marijuana experience turned you into an addict ???

So no I'm not saying that at all.


With LOVE.

Obviously YOU are having problems understanding me. You should lay off the weed my friend.

I'll break it down for you.

Who said it was continually bad experiences on weed? Wasn't me. You said that.

So yes..it was enjoyable...but it 'lies to you'...and makes you 'lie to yourself' that everything is ok...when really it isn't.

Just like you're lying to yourself now that everything's ok, when really it isn't it !

That's how weed has a hold on someone...it makes the person believe everything is ok...when really it isn't...Problems being shelved and never dealt with...airy-fairy thoughts that never achieve anything or help anybody...

It self-delusion ! And that's a fact !

[21_12_2012]

He started it.... Insulting people and getting bad tempered.

But I'm off anyway....

You dont half twist the truth you. But everyone can see it anyway.
I think it's the drugs that do it !
Try being honest for a change.

Drugs = BAD

Simple enough fact really isn't it.

[edelweiss pirate]

I remember once I smoked a spliff after a long absence and the high took me on a journey inside my own mind... I found that my head was terribly full of sex fantasies and suchlike, it was absurd... That was about two years ago.. Since then I made a conscious effort to not have my thoughts dictated to me by my balls and concentrate on what's important...

I think it was Byron who said, on finding his libido decreased with age:
'Thank God for that, it was like being chained to a madman!"

My dad also used to smoke when he was young but is quite antiweed now, but once I brought some home and he had a bit.. He's usually a guy who can't really handle his own anger about things and never discuesses his own feelings in any way. This once, after smoking he came to me, like I've never seen him before, and he said 'this stuff is great, it's like all my bad thoughts just floated out the top of my head...'

I've had that feeling near every time I smoke... It's pretty hard to be angry and stoned...

[21_12_2012]

I've better things to do than trade insults with a bad tempered bully like you.

This was a good thread until you stuck your nose in.


BULLY !! haha..well well... twisting things round again eh. Druggies are good at that..I've known enough of them to know that much.

You mean you were happily telling people that drugs are OK until somebody drug free came along (me) and put you straight on the dangers.

Let's have the truth shall we !

[tru3]

I need to purify myself. Not just body, but thoughts aswell..

We have protesters outside our building, protesting animal testing, and, I'm not gonna go into it real deep, but we don't do the testing, I'll say that much.

But I had an idea to, go pick up some burger meat at a store, and hang a sign outside the window asking if they want their bunny back, then throw the meat at them....


I know.. That's just wrong. Purely wrong.

And I know it. but I still laugh....


How would you all purify yourselfs?

i have my own thoughts about addiction, especially since i am a recovering alcoholic, but i thought i would stay on topping and attempt to assist his1ordship.

first of all, i have those types of thoughts all the time. i had something all typed up to post on the iran/anna nicole thread. it really was rather nasty, so i thought better and deleted it.

h.l., the very fact that you are catching yourself having these thoughts, and pausing before you act, puts you LIGHT YEARS ahead of most people on this planet. you have an innate awareness of what's going on with yourself, and i honor you for that

(((((((h1s_l0rdsh1p))))))) :)

so, to me, you've accomplished step one in the purification process: AWARENESS. you've decided for yourself that this is not an expression of who you are. <thunderous applause>

step 2 to me would be forgiveness. forgive yourself for having thoughts like this. i have thoughts, but i am not limited to those thoughts. i get angry at the ill. but i am not limited to that anger. the Truth of who you are is far, far greater than these fleeting things. you are Infinite Love! i believe we all have our own personal "ipod" radio called the dna. shit is getting beamed into us 24/7 in the form of race consciousness. i choose not to identify with that; not repress it or deny it, but just realize that thoughts arise, then dissolve.

step 3 might be to seek employment elsewhere. i don't know your situation, or if that's even feasible in the foreseeable future. but it seems to me, even peripheral involvement in that kind of energy has consequences in dampening our energetic vibration. let me illustrate by way of story.

in 2002, when my business was in the crapper, i was really struggling for a solution to generate some extra cash. i signed up for a package on "how to collect uncollected court fines and judgements, and deadbeat dads", or some such tripe. i know, i know, don't even say it: blyechhh..:( all i can say was it seemed like a good idea at the time, and i was rather desperate for cash.

the first thing they told us to do is go down to the courthouse and research court cases. with deadbeat dads, i had to go through the transcripts, file by file, to find uncollected amounts of child support. to make a long story short, after about 4 hours of reading about people's failed marriages and broken dreams, i got nauseous. the room started to get stiflingly hot, musty, like a shut up old attic. i had to get out of there, and i never went back.

$199 down the toilet. it was well spent, imo, because i had a direct perception that what i was doing was literally making myself ill.

so, i don't know if that helps, but as far as i can tell, you're already on the path, mate! :)

[unicorn]

We are all different we all experience life in different ways, I thought we were all a bit more enlightened than to argue over this sort of bullshit. :rolleyes:

AHO Lilloz!

[i am all i am]

Obviously YOU are having problems understanding me. You should lay off the weed my friend.

I'll break it down for you.

Who said it was continually bad experiences on weed? Wasn't me. You said that.

So yes..it was enjoyable...but it 'lies to you'...and makes you 'lie to yourself' that everything is ok...when really it isn't.

Just like you're lying to yourself now that everything's ok, when really it isn't it !

That's how weed has a hold on someone...it makes the person believe everything is ok...when really it isn't...Problems being shelved and never dealt with...airy-fairy thoughts that never achieve anything or help anybody...

It self-delusion ! And that's a fact !


I haven't had an income for almost 2 years, so how do you expect me to buy marijuana. So how could I be addicted.

I haven't had any mushrooms since two seasons ago. So, once again, how could I be addicted.

Now you're saying that marijuana "lies to you". Marijuana doesn't talk to you, so how could it lie ???

As for "just like your lying to yourself now that everything's ok, when it really isn't". This is a judgement that YOU make without basing it on any fact whatsoever.

If you experience problems and self delusions, that's your experience and not mine. You are merely projecting your experiences onto others.


With LOVE.

[21_12_2012]

These are just opinions, opinions that don’t really matter in the big scheme of things, people have different views and opinions is all walks of life does it really matter that much that you have to start mud slinging!!

We are all different we all experience life in different ways, I thought we were all a bit more enlightened than to argue over this sort of bullshit.

Ordinarily i would agree with you.
But these people (edelwiess pirate and I am all i am) are actually trying to encourage people to take drugs, when i know better.
I have first hand knowledge of the dangers and negativity of drugs, and i feel it is my duty to inform people of this fact. I can not sit back and not say anything about it.

[edelweiss pirate]

I haven't had an income for almost 2 years, so how do you expect me to buy marijuana. So how could I be addicted.

I haven't had any mushrooms since two seasons ago. So, once again, how could I be addicted.

Now you're saying that marijuana "lies to you". Marijuana doesn't talk to you, so how could it lie ???

As for "just like your lying to yourself now that everything's ok, when it really isn't". This is a judgement that YOU make without basing it on any fact whatsoever.

If you experience problems and self delusions, that's your experience and not mine. You are merely projecting your experiences onto others.


With LOVE.

That's exactly what he's doing..

I've mentioned before my great times on weed and the fact that it saved me from Mind Control induced schizophrenia..

This makes me a drug addict in his eyes (and a virgin too apparently)..

No reasoning with him I'm afraid..

[lilloz]

It seems simple to me some people have good experiences with drugs others have bad experiences, neither one of you is correct yet you both are correct in what you say.
It all depends on the person.

:(

[i am all i am]

Ordinarily i would agree with you.
But these people (edelwiess pirate and I am all i am) are actually trying to encourage people to take drugs, when i know better.
I have first hand knowledge of the dangers and negativity of drugs, and i feel it is my duty to inform people of this fact. I can not sit back and not say anything about it.

His Lordship has already stated that he smokes marijuana on other posts.

Why not let him make up his own mind about what information he chooses to take.


With LOVE.

[21_12_2012]

I haven't had an income for almost 2 years, so how do you expect me to buy marijuana. So how could I be addicted.

I haven't had any mushrooms since two seasons ago. So, once again, how could I be addicted.

I never said mushrooms were addictive, you just said that.

Now you're saying that marijuana "lies to you". Marijuana doesn't talk to you, so how could it lie ???

OK..It causes you to lie to yourself...same thing if you want to be picky about it.

for "just like your lying to yourself now that everything's ok, when it really isn't". This is a judgement that YOU make without basing it on any fact whatsoever.

The way you've been 'endorsing weed' on here, you must smoke it regularly, income or no income. Maybe you get it free from friends or grow it, i don't know. but it seems strange that someone (you) with no money (so you say) would recommend someone to smoke weed if you don't smoke it yourself. (maybe im wrong and youve not smoked it for years, i doubt it though)

If you experience problems and self delusions, that's your experience and not mine. You are merely projecting your experiences onto others.

Actually, the problems of me and everyone else i know who smokes weed. So you're saying it's a coincidence that everyone is 'merely projecting their experiences on others' as well ?

Weed is addictive....simple fact...

[21_12_2012]

That's exactly what he's doing..

I've mentioned before my great times on weed and the fact that it saved me from Mind Control induced schizophrenia..

This makes me a drug addict in his eyes (and a virgin too apparently)..

No reasoning with him I'm afraid..

Weed actually induces psychosis and schizophrenia ! Or didn't you know that ?!

You're twisting the truth again there aren't you ! Like you always do !

The reason i mentioned 'i take it you're a virgin' (as you well know) is this:-

You said that a joint is the best way of relieving stress.

I said (sarcastically...as you already know) "i take it you're a virgin then'

Meaning .... "sex is better than a spliff"

So there you go...I'll speak facts..you continue to try and twist things..

Can't reason with proper schizos like you.

[edelweiss pirate]

Whatever 2012.. You've called me a Mason, a virgin and a drug addict...

I've had enough of you. I won't waste words with you anymore.

Goodbye.

[astral_girl]

Mental health problems

There is growing evidence that people with serious mental illness, including depression and psychosis, are more likely to use cannabis or have used it for long periods of time in the past. Regular use of the drug has appeared to double the risk of developing a psychotic episode or long-term schizophrenia. However, does cannabis cause depression and schizophrenia or do people with these disorders use it as a medication?



Over the past few years, research has strongly suggested that there is a clear link between early cannabis use and later mental health problems in those with a genetic vulnerability - and that there is a particular issue with the use of cannabis by adolescents

[21_12_2012]

Isn't it amazing just how far drug-addicts will go to defend themselves and their addictions !

Im sure the non-drug takers can see this on this thread A MILE OFF !!

The druggies actually claim that drugs cure the psychosis and the schizophrenia that was actually caused by the drug in the first place ?!?!

Look at any good websites about marijuana and cannabis, and see how long term effects have been proved to cause schizophrenia and psychosis in many users.

Yet they come on here trying to advise people to take it.

It's repulsive if you ask me.

Edelwiess pirate and i am all i am need to be ashamed of themselves....

And any non-drug users reading this thread should remain exactly as they are NON DRUG USERS...especially marijuana....it RUINS LIVES and it is ADDICTIVE

SIMPLE AS THAT...it causes you to be delusional, and makes you think that everything is ok when it clearly is NOT.

[astral_girl]

Schizophrenia

Three major studies followed large numbers of people over several years, and showed that those people who use cannabis have a higher than average risk of developing schizophrenia. If you start smoking it before the age of 15, you are 4 times more likely to develop a psychotic disorder by the time you are 26. They found no evidence of self-medication. It seemed that, the more cannabis someone used, the more likely they were to develop symptoms.



Why should teenagers be particularly vulnerable to the use of cannabis? No one knows for certain, but it may be something to do with brain development. The brain is still developing in the teenage years – up to the age of around 20, in fact. A massive process of ‘neural pruning’ is going on. This is rather like streamlining a tangled jumble of circuits so they can work more effectively. Any experience, or substance, that affects this process has the potential to produce long-term psychological effects.



Recent research in Europe, and in the UK, has suggested that people who have a family background of mental illness – so probably have a genetic vulnerability anyway - are more likely to develop schizophrenia if they use cannabis as well.

Is there such a thing as ‘cannabis psychosis’?
Recent research in Denmark suggests that yes, there is. It is a short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found only around 100 new cases per year.



However, they also found that:

Three quarters had a different psychotic disorder diagnosed within the next year
Nearly half still had a psychotic disorder 3 years later.


So, it also seems probable that nearly half of those diagnosed as having cannabis psychosis are actually showing the first signs of a more long-lasting psychotic disorder, such as schizophrenia. It may be this group of people who are particularly vulnerable to the effects of cannabis, and so should probably avoid it in the future.

Is cannabis addictive?
It has some of the features of addictive drugs such as:

tolerance – having to take more and more to get the same effect
withdrawal symptoms. These have been shown in heavy users and include:
- - craving

- - decreased appetite

- - sleep difficulty

- - weight loss

- - aggression anger, irritability, restlessness, and strange dreams.

These symptoms of withdrawal produce about the same amount of discomfort as withdrawing from tobacco.



For regular, long-term users:

- 3 out of 4 experience cravings;

- half become irritable;

- 7 out of 10 switch to tobacco in an attempt to stay off cannabis.



The irritability, anxiety and problems with sleeping usually appear 10 hours after the last joint, and peak at around one week after the last use of the drug.



Compulsive use

The user feels they have to have it and spends much of their life seeking, buying and using it. They cannot stop even when other important parts of their life (family, school, work) suffer.



You are most likely to become dependent on cannabis if you use it every day

[21_12_2012]

Whatever 2012.. You've called me a Mason, a virgin and a drug addict...

I've had enough of you. I won't waste words with you anymore.

Goodbye.

Twisting the truth again ! SHAME ON YOU !

Moderators know how much you twist things by now...just wondering why they've not done anything about it yet !

[astral_girl]

What causes schizophrenia?
We don't yet know for sure. It is likely to be a combination of several different factors which will be different for different people.
Genes
1 in 10 people with schizophrenia have a parent with the illness. Studies of twins can help to show how much is due to genes and how much to upbringing.

Identical twins have exactly the same genetic make-up as each other, down to the last molecule of DNA. If one identical twin has schizophrenia, their twin has about a 50:50 chance of having it too. Non-identical twins don't have the same genetic make-up as each other. If one of them has schizophrenia, the risk to the other twin is just slightly more than for any other brother or sister.

These findings hold true even if twins are adopted and brought up in different families. This suggests that the difference is truly due to genes rather than upbringing.

Relatives with schizophrenia Chance of developing schizophrenia
None 1 in 100
1 parent 1 in 10
1 identical twin (same genetic make up) 1 in 2
1 non-identical twin (different genetic make up) 1 in 80


Research suggests that genes account for about half of the risk of developing schizophrenia. We don't yet know the combination of genes responsible for this.
Brain damage
Modern brain scans show that, compared with people who don't suffer from the illness, there are differences in the brains of some people with schizophrenia. For some people with schizophrenia, parts of their brain may not have developed normally, because of:

problems during birth that affect the supply of oxygen to the baby's brain
viral infections during the early months of pregnancy.
Street drugs and alcohol
Sometimes, the use of street drugs seems to bring on schizophrenia. These include ecstasy (E), LSD (acid), amphetamines (speed) and crack. We know that amphetamines can give you psychotic symptoms, but they actually stop when you cease taking the amphetamines. We don't yet know whether these drugs on their own can trigger off a long-term illness but they may do if you are vulnerable. Using street drugs and alcohol can make matters worse for people who already have schizophrenia. Some people use street drugs and alcohol to cope with their symptoms.
Cannabis
(hash, marijuana, pot, ganja, skunk, dope, spliffs, joints)

There is now good evidence to suggest that the use of cannabis doubles the risk of developing schizophrenia.
If is more likely if you start using cannabis in your early teens.
If you have smoked it frequently (more than 50 times) during your teens, the effect is even stronger - you are 6 times more likely to develop schizophrenia.
Stress
Difficulties often seem to happen shortly before symptoms get worse. This may be a sudden event like a car accident, bereavement or moving home. It can be an everyday problem, such as difficulty with work or studies. Long-term stress, such as family tensions, can also make it worse.
Family problems
At one time, it was thought that schizophrenia was caused by communication problems within the family. There is no evidence to support this idea. However, , family tensions can worsen schizophrenia.
Childhood deprivation
There is some evidence that, as with other mental disorders, early experiences of deprivation and abuse can make it more likely that you will develop schizophrenia.

[edelweiss pirate]

If you don't like dope don't smoke it...

I like it and I will continue to do so from time to time.

Why are there people here intent on telling us how to live our lives?

Weed and mushrooms have been used for millenia to explore alterered states of consciousness. That's good enough for me.

If I have no problem where's the problem.

Why am I even having to defend my use of canabis on this forum. It's absurd. Go meddle with your own lives control freaks and allow others to do their own thing. Ok?

[21_12_2012]

Cannabis
(hash, marijuana, pot, ganja, skunk, dope, spliffs, joints)

There is now good evidence to suggest that the use of cannabis doubles the risk of developing schizophrenia.
If is more likely if you start using cannabis in your early teens.
If you have smoked it frequently (more than 50 times) during your teens, the effect is even stronger - you are 6 times more likely to develop schizophrenia.

Thanks for that astral girl.

I was a different person when i was a smoker. But, the sad thing is that the weed actually makes you think everything is OK, when it isn't.
You can only see it when you have stopped using it, for long time (in my case 9 months).
I was lucky, it did not leave any permanent damage to my brain. I am as normal now as i was before i started taking drugs. Luckily i did not 'hammer them' like some of my friends did.

[unicorn]

I need to purify myself. Not just body, but thoughts aswell..

Awareness is the key when purifying thoughts... then you realise how much programmed thought goes on that needs to be changed to master manifesting the highest possible outcome for you.

Thanks i am all i am for the anti-dairy website. Wouldn't be anything other than vegan knowing the toxicity of pasteurized dairy (creates a film in your intestines preventing absorbption of nutrients) & why anyone would even call meat meat is beyond me... just thinking of the killing process that these animals endure is enough to stop any cravings for meat.

I also wonder what other detrimental effects dairy has on the body, as there's a huge sure in advertising dairy products for children here in the UK, from babies to toddlers to schoolkids... poison them at every age!

Top tip for purifying... bless your food & drink so that it is 'brought back to life' & nourishes your body instead of using your body's energy to eliminate it ;)

[21_12_2012]

If you don't like dope don't smoke it...

I like it and I will continue to do so from time to time.

Why are there people here intent on telling us how to live our lives?

Weed and mushrooms have been used for millenia to explore alterered states of consciousness. That's good enough for me.

If I have no problem where's the problem.

Why am I even having to defend my use of canabis on this forum. It's absurd. Go meddle with your own lives control freaks and allow others to do their own thing. Ok?

YOU'RE the one encouraging people to SMOKE IT !

SO that makes YOU the one who is telling people how to live their lives.

Then you say:- "Go meddle with your own lives control freaks and allow others to do their own thing. Ok?"

IT IS YOU who's meddling with people's lives trying to encourage people to smoke weed and tell them it's beneficial. (or have you forgotten your previous posts on this thread already due to being stoned?)

Is it just me or can everybody see just how much this guy tries to twist things around ?!?!

It's a sign of twisted mind that is.

I am SOOOOOOOO glad I do not smoke weed....

[edelweiss pirate]

I'm telling my personal experiences on a public forum..

And now I have a twisted mind?

That on top of being a mason, being a drug addict and being a virgin.

Anything else you want to call me?

You have real personality problems you need to deal with 2012.

[unicorn]

I was a different person when i was a smoker. But, the sad thing is that the weed actually makes you think everything is OK, when it isn't.


Good point 21 12 2012, once I gave up toking (after 12 years) I finally saw the changes I wanted to make in my life & got off my ass to do something about it! Now I am living the life of my dreams, instead of existing in a compromised reality all of the time. The term 'creating a smoke screen' is relevant to this subject!!!

Drugs are, unless in exceptional circumstances, a form of escape to find the world we know can exist but don't know how to find. 'Smoke a J to expand consciousness'... ahem... try tuning into your inner consciousness or connect with celestial intelligence without the dope, it's cheaper, quicker & way more powerful. If you need a J to experience the spiritual side of life, it's a false crutch. If you use it to enhance to experience spiritual journeying, that's a different matter, & requires a totally different attitude altogether.

[astral_girl]

The 12 Steps

We admitted we were powerless over our addiction - that our lives had become unmanageable
Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity
Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood God
Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves
Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs
Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character
Humbly asked God to remove our shortcomings
Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all
Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others
Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it
Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood God, praying only for knowledge of God's will for us and the power to carry that out
Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to other addicts, and to practice these principles in all our affairs

[21_12_2012]

I'm telling my personal experiences on a public forum..

And now I have a twisted mind?

You have real personality problems you need to deal with 2012.

I really wish you weren't here.

Yes, you do wish i wasn't here, because you cannot deal with hearing the truth !

You're saying I have personality problems ? haha after what you have said :-
"weed saved me from becomeing schizophrenic" ...?!?!?!?!

What kind of hypocritical statement is that? It's complete rubbish coming from someone who's mind is completely twisted !

That about sums you up really doesn't it, a twisted drug-addict..intent on twisting the truth and twisting other people's minds.

I don't need to point it out anyway, I'm sure everyone can see what a twister you are.

SHAME ON YOU.

[edelweiss pirate]

According to you.

We all have a different experience of life.

One size does not fit all.

[edelweiss pirate]

Yes, you do wish i wasn't here, because you cannot deal with hearing the truth !

You're saying I have personality problems ? haha after what you have said :-
"weed saved me from becomeing schizophrenic" ...?!?!?!?!

What kind of hypocritical statement is that? It's complete rubbish coming from someone who's mind is completely twisted !

That about sums you up really doesn't it, a twisted drug-addict..intent on twisting the truth and twisting other people's minds.

I don't need to point it out to you anyway, I'm sure everyone can see what a twister you are.

SHAME ON YOU.


Whatever 2012.. keep chewing the bile.

[astral_girl]

Marijuana Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share our experience, strength, and hope with each other that we may solve our common problem and help others to recover from marijuana addiction.
The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop using marijuana. There are no dues or fees for membership. We are self-supporting through our own contributions. MA is not affiliated with any religious or secular institution or organization and has no opinion on any outside controversies or causes. Our primary purpose is to stay free of marijuana and to help the marijuana addict who still suffers achieve the same freedom. We can do this by practicing our suggested twelve steps of recovery and by being guided as a group by our twelve traditions.

Marijuana Anonymous uses the basic 12 Steps of Recovery founded by Alcoholics Anonymous, because it has been proven that the 12 Step Recovery program works!

[21_12_2012]

Good point 21 12 2012, once I gave up toking (after 12 years) I finally saw the changes I wanted to make in my life & got off my ass to do something about it! Now I am living the life of my dreams, instead of existing in a compromised reality all of the time. The term 'creating a smoke screen' is relevant to this subject!!!

Drugs are, unless in exceptional circumstances, a form of escape to find the world we know can exist but don't know how to find. 'Smoke a J to expand consciousness'... ahem... try tuning into your inner consciousness or connect with celestial intelligence without the dope, it's cheaper, quicker & way more powerful. If you need a J to experience the spiritual side of life, it's a false crutch. If you use it to enhance to experience spiritual journeying, that's a different matter, & requires a totally different attitude altogether.

Totally agree.

Good to hear you gave it up too.

I've never felt better.

[edelweiss pirate]

Mods, would you like to review this thread and see how 2012 has countered serious debate by abusing and name calling anyone who doesn't agree with him?

there's enough of you mods out there surely you noticed something...

[astral_girl]

Twelve Questions

Has smoking pot stopped being fun?
Do you ever get high alone?
Is it hard for you to imagine a life without marijuana?
Do you find that your friends are determined by your marijuana use?
Do you smoke marijuana to avoid dealing with your problems?
Do you smoke pot to cope with your feelings?
Does your marijuana use let you live in a privately defined world?
Have you ever failed to keep promises you made about cutting down or controlling your dope smoking?
Has your use of marijuana caused problems with memory, concentration, or motivation?
When your stash is nearly empty, do you feel anxious or worried about how to get more?
Do you plan your life around your marijuana use?
Have friends or relatives ever complained that your pot smoking is damaging your relationship with them?
If you answered yes to any of the above questions, you may have a problem with marijuana.

[21_12_2012]

Who thinks edelwiess pirate should take himself and his rancid truth-twisting off this thread...indeed off this forum...?

This thread is all about purification and enlightenment, yet he comes here wrecking it with his filthy lies and encouraging innocent people to take drugs.

tut tut. There should be a thread about you and your 'rubbish'
How much other truth have you turned into lies?

Mind you, that's what druggies do...i've known enough of them in my time.

Pity that not everyone can see right through you like i can.

They probably will in time though.

In the meantime, everybody...don't be inclined to smoke weed, it is addictive and bad for the spiritual self.

Ignore people on here who endorse it.

[21_12_2012]

Mods, would you like to review this thread and see how 2012 has countered serious debate by abusing and name calling anyone who doesn't agree with him?

there's enough of you mods out there surely you noticed something...

haha, you wish !

Discouraging drug abuse is hardly name calling.

We don't approve of you and your drug use on here, and i don't need to rally up people to agree with me...it is self evidently true.

[edelweiss pirate]

Actually 2012 you're doing a better job than I at promoting marijuana..

You obviously haven't smoked for a long time and you're an offensive little arsehole...

Coincidence? I don't think so.

Do yourself a favour chum and get stoned again.

Either that or a personality transplant.

Love
Pirate

[21_12_2012]

Actually 2012 you're doing a better job than I at promoting marijuana..

You obviously haven't smoked for a long time and you're an offensive little arsehole...

Coincidence? I don't think so.

Do yourself a favour chum and get stoned again.

Either that or a personality transplant.

Love
Pirate

haha, your name-calling has not, will not, and can-not affect me in the slightest..because..i will always know that i am vibrating at a MUCH higher level than you..and in fact higher than any other drug addict !

Offensive? haha whoops, there you go again sonny...twisting truth around....

I merely state facts...you twist truth and encourage drug use...which is offensive? I'm sure the 'sober' people can see for themselves who is offensive.

Wake up son. It's controlling your mind (or mind/s in your case...being a schizophrenic and suffering from psychosis)

SHAME ON YOU

[tru3]

His Lordship has already stated that he smokes marijuana on other posts.

Why not let him make up his own mind about what information he chooses to take.


With LOVE.


um, did i wander into an alternate universe? :confused: i'm confused.

i thought the thread was answering h.l.'s question about a personal experience he had. i really didn't read the word "marijuana" anywhere in his original posts.

I need to purify myself. Not just body, but thoughts aswell..

We have protesters outside our building, protesting animal testing, and, I'm not gonna go into it real deep, but we don't do the testing, I'll say that much.

But I had an idea to, go pick up some burger meat at a store, and hang a sign outside the window asking if they want their bunny back, then throw the meat at them....


I know.. That's just wrong. Purely wrong.

And I know it. but I still laugh....


How would you all purify yourselfs?

phew! that's a relief. i just wanted to check; i thought maybe i was having an acid flashback.

i mean, i've killed a few brain cells in my day myself, but i believe i've got enough of them left to form the following question:

exactly what the hell does any of this have to do with helping a brother on this forum?

geez louise, take the weekend off, both of ya's. :(

[intruder]

I really appreciate ALL the posts here. well, almost all....
I've been on a HIGHatus from weed. I do not drink alcohol. I'm contemplating going COMPLETELY clean. The schizo inducing qualities of pot have been apparent to me.....perhaps ALL too apparent for me to admit to.

I've been working with Jonathon Goldman's Chakra Chants CD for a couple of years now... DEEP breathing and toning. 1/2 hr in the morning, and 1/2 an hour in the evening.My desire to smoke pot has diminished significantly.

OF COURSE the "strange dreams" come when pot use subsides. For one one...the weed may indeed "rip your etheric" as Stuart Wilde has said. You can spend SO much time in esoteric thinking when you're "high" that there's no need to explore the subconscious in the dreamworld..Just a theory.

I honestly believe that my "higher awareness" is truly kicking in and nudging me in the right direction.

I LOATHE how pot can turn me into a coward. Perhaps coward is the wrong word....apprehensive....fearful of crowds, unless of course the crowd is intoxicated in one form or another.

More to follow.

[i am all i am]

Awareness is the key when purifying thoughts... then you realise how much programmed thought goes on that needs to be changed to master manifesting the highest possible outcome for you.

Thanks i am all i am for the anti-dairy website. Wouldn't be anything other than vegan knowing the toxicity of pasteurized dairy (creates a film in your intestines preventing absorbption of nutrients) & why anyone would even call meat meat is beyond me... just thinking of the killing process that these animals endure is enough to stop any cravings for meat.

I also wonder what other detrimental effects dairy has on the body, as there's a huge sure in advertising dairy products for children here in the UK, from babies to toddlers to schoolkids... poison them at every age!

Top tip for purifying... bless your food & drink so that it is 'brought back to life' & nourishes your body instead of using your body's energy to eliminate it ;)


You are welcome Unicorn.

Another good site is the mad cowboy. There is a link for it on milksucks.


With LOVE.
__________________________________

WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[21_12_2012]

I really appreciate ALL the posts here. well, almost all....
I've been on a HIGHatus from weed. I do not drink alcohol. I'm contemplating going COMPLETELY clean. The schizo inducing qualities of pot have been apparent to me.....perhaps ALL too apparent for me to admit to.

I've been working with Jonathon Goldman's Chakra Chants CD for a couple of years now... DEEP breathing and toning. 1/2 hr in the morning, and 1/2 an hour in the evening.My desire to smoke pot has diminished significantly.

OF COURSE the "strange dreams" come when pot use subsides. For one one...the weed may indeed "rip your etheric" as Stuart Wilde has said. You can spend SO much time in esoteric thinking when you're "high" that there's no need to explore the subconscious in the dreamworld..Just a theory.

I honestly believe that my "higher awareness" is truly kicking in and nudging me in the right direction.

I LOATHE how pot can turn me into a coward. Perhaps coward is the wrong word....apprehensive....fearful of crowds, unless of course the crowd is intoxicated in one form or another.

More to follow.

Good stuff.
Realising this is the first stage to doing something about it.

If i would have known just how much of a better person i would be without drugs, i would have stopped using them a LONG time ago.

It is definately the only way to be if somebody wants to become more spiritual and to vibrate at a higher level.

Good luck to you mate, i hope it all works out as well as it can for you.

[edelweiss pirate]

You a better person?

Are you serious?

2012 wrote:

Twisting the truth again ! SHAME ON YOU...

Twisting the truth again ! SHAME ON YOU !

Moderators know how much you twist things by now...just wondering why they've not done anything about it yet !

I don't know what you're about but you're either totally off your box or I don't know what else....
This 2012 has serious issues. He insults posters for no reason and seems intent on a smear campaign against myself..

Why, because i like a smoke?

Do the moderators know how I twist things? Do they?

Hey mods? Could you answer that one please?

What's going on here.... Any help would be appreciated.

Anyone? What's this guy's problem?

[21_12_2012]

You a better person?

Twisting the truth yet again !! When and where did i say i was a better person? But now you come to mention it..haha you're not exactly a shining example of the human race are you!

I don't know what you're about but you're either totally off your box or I don't know what else....

This 2012 has serious issues. He insults posters for no reason and seems intent on a smear campaign against myself..

OOps, there you go again twisting the truth (again and again)...i actually do not insult posters at all !

In fact, all i do is put straight your twisted truths..which frankly is very very boring....never mind..one day you might actually tell the truth (doubtful though...drug addicts lie without even trying !)


Why, because i like a smoke?

Twisting the truth again...i actually became offended because you were encouranging someone to smoke weed to become purified and enlightened.....yawn..this is getting very tedious untwisting your lies.

Do the moderators know how I twist things? Do they?

I expect they do by now...but I'm sure they keep you around for a spot of entertainment, people like a good story (ermm sorry LIES !)

Hey mods? Could you answer that one please?

Like they'd waste their time answering you...you've been smoking again haven't you !

What's going on here.... Any help would be appreciated.
Rehabilitation would help you, and maybe a course of anti-psychotics !

Anyone? What's this guy's problem?

Drug addicts like you, attempting to get other people into drugs..that's my problem !

Oh dear...edelweiss....you do make yourself look silly don't you.


ps. haha I like your signature !!
All because me and Masonic 3 exposed your lies for what they truly are..LIES....
Truth hurts doesn't it...ah well....that's life I'm afraid !

[21_12_2012]

The only winners are the ones who don't take drugs !

[i am all i am]

I need to purify myself. Not just body, but thoughts aswell..

We have protesters outside our building, protesting animal testing, and, I'm not gonna go into it real deep, but we don't do the testing, I'll say that much.

But I had an idea to, go pick up some burger meat at a store, and hang a sign outside the window asking if they want their bunny back, then throw the meat at them....


I know.. That's just wrong. Purely wrong.

And I know it. but I still laugh....


How would you all purify yourselfs?


I would use maijuana and mushroom as a preference.

Actually, any hallucinogen that came from nature would do it for me.

The perfect way to alter your state of conciousness.

You could purify your body by following a vegan lifestyle. Of course this would mean that you might become inclined to join the protestors and would look to free as many bunnies as you could.


With LOVE.


I have stated, in response to the question asked, how I would purify myself. The suggestion that I made to His Lordship was about following a vegan lifestyle.

So, 2012, could you please show me where I encouraged His Lordship to smoke marijuana or consume mushrooms.

[21_12_2012]

I would use maijuana and mushroom as a preference.

Actually, any hallucinogen that came from nature would do it for me.

The perfect way to alter your state of conciousness.

You could purify your body by following a vegan lifestyle. Of course this would mean that you might become inclined to join the protestors and would look to free as many bunnies as you could.


With LOVE.

There you go...that's where you encouraged it !

Have you forgotten already?

[edelweiss pirate]

You're irredeemably foul 2012.

[teslafire]

The only winners are the ones who don't take drugs !

LOL

Oh god, that's just inspired me to wear my DARE shirt (fellow USA public school attendees know what I'm talking about).

What about hot red peppers? Its a poison if taken in extreme and does make me panic slightly, but I like it, especially when I'm eating a meal devoid of taste.

[i am all i am]

Quote:
Originally Posted by i am all i am
I would use maijuana and mushroom as a preference.

Actually, any hallucinogen that came from nature would do it for me.

The perfect way to alter your state of conciousness.

You could purify your body by following a vegan lifestyle. Of course this would mean that you might become inclined to join the protestors and would look to free as many bunnies as you could.


With LOVE.
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There you go...that's where you encouraged it !

Have you forgotten already?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I suggest you read the text again.

The only thing that I recommended was a vegan lifestyle.



With LOVE.

[21_12_2012]

You're irredeemably foul 2012.

haha, you mean foul like a filthy drug addict who is encouraging others to drop to his level?

Or foul like a decent person attempting to highlight the dangers of drug abuse and about people like you?

I'm sure the rest of the posters on here know who is foul and who isn't..listen to yourself...addicts always deny the truth.

[21_12_2012]

Quote:
Originally Posted by i am all i am
I would use maijuana and mushroom as a preference.

Actually, any hallucinogen that came from nature would do it for me.

The perfect way to alter your state of conciousness.

OH so that doesn't sound like you're promoting the use of drugs does it not?
Well maybe to a retard it wouldn't.

[teslafire]

2012 do you mind cooling out?

You're obviously very passionate, but there's no need to insult, and that's true for everyone.

This thread is about purification eh?

Well you're all getting your bile out but from now on do it away from this forum.

[notaslave]

2012 do you mind cooling out?

You're obviously very passionate, but there's no need to insult, and that's true for everyone.

This thread is about purification eh?

Well you're all getting your bile out but from now on do it away from this forum.

Right no - excuse me I have been reading this thread 2012 was not the only abusive poster here - you teslafire are bang out of order.

[teslafire]

No I'm not, I said everyone needs to cool out.

[edelweiss pirate]

I'm right here if you mean me.

I was only responding to 2012's baiting.. If you'd been following you would have seen who was first to make it 'personal'..

Among other things this 2012 guy has called me a mason, a virgin (?), a drug addict, a twister (like a tornado I guess)... and so on..

He's accused me of posting rubbish, crap, lying to deceive people and that's only the few words from his rather hateful posts that I cared to look at. The guy totally reminds me of the masons I encountered over at ATS, Same tactics. Discredit the man discredit his story.

I don't think Teslafire is out of order at all. 2012 just seems to randomly insult people who disagree with them. I only insult people who insult me first.

[notaslave]

2012 do you mind cooling out?

You're obviously very passionate, but there's no need to insult, and that's true for everyone.

This thread is about purification eh?

Well you're all getting your bile out but from now on do it away from this forum.

why not mention them by name too - in the interests of fairness and justness?

[teslafire]

Insults seem to be endemic in some people's conversations with each other. This is not a problem that's going to be solved on an internet forum, IMO.

I don't want to close this thread for the sake of others, but I will start deleting insults from now on, from anybody.

[notaslave]

agreed that the last comment from 2012 pushed it

but he is tarred forum spanner I have to stop myself from laughing at that.

eidelweiss pirate posted a comment right after that which was also deleted, he wasnt marked forum spanner.


I have walked out of jobs for similar and I am pretty sure the crowd mentallity is well at work in here.


I WONT BE BACK.

[tru3]

I don't know what you're about but you're either totally off your box or I don't know what else....
This 2012 has serious issues. He insults posters for no reason and seems intent on a smear campaign against myself..

Why, because i like a smoke?

Do the moderators know how I twist things?

when you twist one, what kind of papers do you use? :D

i wanna be in the salty sea dog fan club, please! :p

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[garth]

After reading this thread, I think it unfair that 2012 was given the boot and his adversary appears to have gotten off the hook, a definite lack of fairness here, whats up teslafire?

[teslafire]

There are a number of deleted posts that, upon review of the thread, make the outcome appear incongruous and out of context. I've spoken with 2012 many times during PM, and I've explained, in detail, the reasoning for this and PM'd Garth with it.

Should anyone else want more explication, I'll be more than happy to do so over PM.

;)

[edelweiss pirate]

2012 had a problem with me ever since the 'Real X men' thread where all I did was tell people what weird thing's I'd experiened.. Like weather control, people astrally getting inside other people's heads and a friend of mine who mentally stopped a cop car ( I was there)...

He found this hard to believe and accused me of spouting crap and calling me a liar.

Thing is many other people actually posted similar experiences on the thread which meant 2012 was vainly battering away at me while every agreed that my experiences were possible in the context of fluid reality.

Ever since then he's tried to have a go at me, accusing me of posting rubbish crap and being a twister or whatever.

Is didn't start this shit. It was this guy's ego.

You expect me to be called a liar and take it?

How would you like it?

Anyway those who are pissed off or whatever, get over it, you're wrong. Those who know know, that's all that matters.

The guy then totally lost it, swearing and shit... Both posts were removed.

Just the kind of shit that happens when you say things people can't deal with....
Should I keep what I know 'secret' so as not to disturb people like 2012?


I won't do that but it makes ya wonder...

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I don't have time to read EVERYTHING, but I will at some point.

Well, I've decided to start pureifing myself...

Torture.

No meats. Vegitarian living for awhile.
No smoking. I need to get over my addictions.
No coffee/soda/caffine. I need to get over my addictions.
Working out 3 times a day. Jog once in the morning, once in the evening, and do random things at work, like push-ups on the stairs, taking the stairs rather than the the lift.
Also, talking with only my throat and not with my nose.
And when I break a rule, I hurt myself.
Whether cut, hit, or anything. I hurt myself for not having strong will.


So yeah...

[tru3]

No smoking. I need to get over my addictions.

good luck with that. i quit for a week one day! :D

can i make one observation? after 10 years of abstinence with alcohol, i found that "a day a time really does work". also a good thing to remember is "easy does it". any one single thing on your list would be a win; when i put too much on my plate at one sitting, sometimes i can get a tummy ache!

so, you know best for you, but you might think about starting with one "issue" on your list, and build from there. you'll have more confidence.

that's one theory anyway. i've had people tell me they went "cold turkey" on everything in one fell swoop. they said it almost put them off their feet, but when they came out the other side, they could see there was a common factor running through all the things they had given up.

anyway, the exercise will definitely help you get through it, whatever you decide to do.

[i am all i am]

I don't have time to read EVERYTHING, but I will at some point.

Well, I've decided to start pureifing myself...

Torture.

No meats. Vegitarian living for awhile.
No smoking. I need to get over my addictions.
No coffee/soda/caffine. I need to get over my addictions.
Working out 3 times a day. Jog once in the morning, once in the evening, and do random things at work, like push-ups on the stairs, taking the stairs rather than the the lift.
Also, talking with only my throat and not with my nose.
And when I break a rule, I hurt myself.
Whether cut, hit, or anything. I hurt myself for not having strong will.


So yeah...


G'day His Lordship.

There's a thread that I started in the General area called 'Addictive Personality', some of the information may be of benefit for you (???).

Instead of hurting yourself, how about you have to give some money (a hug or other positive thing) to a stranger on the street (or a homeless person), when you break a rule ? It would be of benefit for both of you as the positive that you give will come back to you (what you give out, you get back).



With LOVE.
_________________________________

WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[21_12_2012]

Good to hear it mate...