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largejack
22-01-2008, 09:26 PM
Thank you for your e-mail. Firstly, the CAA has no knowledge of, or involvement in, any operation to spray chemicals into the atmosphere from aircraft, and I firmly believe that what you have witnessed are contrails from aircraft on the high level air traffic routes that exist over the area.

Contrails are formed by aircraft engine exhausts under very cold and humid atmospheric conditions. Contrails consist of ice crystals which may dissipate almost immediately after formation or may persist for many hours. Whether contrails form or not and if they do, whether they dissipate or persist, is dependent on the ambient atmospheric conditions and these are variable. This is why contrails can be observed on some occasions but not on others. Some research has also indicated that contrail formation can be dependent on altitude resulting in some aircraft forming contrails and others not. Over time contrails can spread and diffuse into cirrus cloud.

The formation of contrails and resultant cirrus cloud is thought to have an effect on climate change. The science underlying the mechanism not completely understood and is complex. However, it is thought that the contrails and cirrus cloud prevent radiation reaching the surface and thus act to cool the atmosphere. At the same time, contrails and cirrus are thought to absorb some upwelling thermal radiation and reradiate it towards the earth's surface. Overall, the dominant effect is thought to be one of warming.

This phenomenon has been widely observed and reported over many years. It is reported in the authoritative and detailed Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report on Aviation and the Global Atmosphere, Cambridge University Press, 1999 (http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc/aviation/) . A simpler explanation is provided in the Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution report on the Environmental Effects of Civil Aircraft in Flight published in 2002 (http://www.rcep.org.uk/aviation/av12-txt.pdf). Both reports were produced by eminent and independent scientists. There is much ongoing research into the impact of aviation on climate change including the effects of contrails and cirrus clouds.

Regards,

Jim Walker

Aviation-Related Environmental Complaints
Directorate of Airspace Policy
020 7453 6525



What a load of Bull

intruder
22-01-2008, 09:42 PM
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When they spray THIS MUCH bullshit from their mouths we've got 'em by the short and curlies!!!!

largejack
22-01-2008, 10:35 PM
It's mental they keep on sending the same old standard reply to everyone who knows about chemtrails:mad:

mindsplinter
22-01-2008, 10:59 PM
Here's a great video about the Chemtrails that don't exist.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2815320198655156407

rynath
23-01-2008, 07:37 AM
Seems a good a place as any to post these little gems.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Stop Spraying Us - YouTube

kweli
09-02-2008, 06:21 PM
Thank you for your e-mail. Firstly, the CAA has no knowledge of, or involvement in, any operation to spray chemicals into the atmosphere from aircraft, and I firmly believe that what you have witnessed are contrails from aircraft on the high level air traffic routes that exist over the area.

Contrails are formed by aircraft engine exhausts under very cold and humid atmospheric conditions. Contrails consist of ice crystals which may dissipate almost immediately after formation or may persist for many hours. Whether contrails form or not and if they do, whether they dissipate or persist, is dependent on the ambient atmospheric conditions and these are variable. This is why contrails can be observed on some occasions but not on others. Some research has also indicated that contrail formation can be dependent on altitude resulting in some aircraft forming contrails and others not. Over time contrails can spread and diffuse into cirrus cloud.

The formation of contrails and resultant cirrus cloud is thought to have an effect on climate change. The science underlying the mechanism not completely understood and is complex. However, it is thought that the contrails and cirrus cloud prevent radiation reaching the surface and thus act to cool the atmosphere. At the same time, contrails and cirrus are thought to absorb some upwelling thermal radiation and reradiate it towards the earth's surface. Overall, the dominant effect is thought to be one of warming.

This phenomenon has been widely observed and reported over many years. It is reported in the authoritative and detailed Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report on Aviation and the Global Atmosphere, Cambridge University Press, 1999 (http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc/aviation/) . A simpler explanation is provided in the Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution report on the Environmental Effects of Civil Aircraft in Flight published in 2002 (http://www.rcep.org.uk/aviation/av12-txt.pdf). Both reports were produced by eminent and independent scientists. There is much ongoing research into the impact of aviation on climate change including the effects of contrails and cirrus clouds.

Regards,

Jim Walker

Aviation-Related Environmental Complaints
Directorate of Airspace Policy
020 7453 6525



What a load of Bull

Hi largejack, I've just sent a e-mail to the Mayor of my town, demanding an explanation about the crazy amount of chemtrail activity in this area. I included some quite dramatic photos taken over the last couple of days; I also attatched the reply that you received from the CAA there; I told him I didn't want to be insulted and fobbed off with the stock reply. I told him we don't accept it. (so thanks for posting it) I explained I'd studied and documented the evidence of chemtrailing for some time now, discussing it with people locally, nationally and worldwide and that we knew the difference between contrails and chemtrails.

I'm not holding my breath for any serious explanation, but they need to know we're not all so dumbed down that we don't even notice. :mad:

2013
09-02-2008, 07:47 PM
If it was just contrail activity then why didnt we see this years ago the sky never looked like that during my childhood.What is the difference in the atmosphere now or the fuel they use now compared to back then that could make such a dramatic difference .They dont even try to give an intelligent answer when replying just fob you off thinking arrogantly that we would accept any explanation .Of course maybe its only on a need to know basis so the people who think they know , know nothing never underestimate the power of smugness:D

largejack
11-02-2008, 08:25 PM
If it was just contrail activity then why didnt we see this years ago the sky never looked like that during my childhood.What is the difference in the atmosphere now or the fuel they use now compared to back then that could make such a dramatic difference .They dont even try to give an intelligent answer when replying just fob you off thinking arrogantly that we would accept any explanation .Of course maybe its only on a need to know basis so the people who think they know , know nothing never underestimate the power of smugness:D

The worst thing about that is when I said to the CAA man that I never remembered seeing trails that don't dissapate in the sky when I was a kid and I was always looking up, you know what his response was he said "Just because you didn't see lingering trails doesn't mean it wasn't happening!":rolleyes:

limelady
11-02-2008, 10:51 PM
The worst thing about that is when I said to the CAA man that I never remembered seeing trails that don't dissapate in the sky when I was a kid and I was always looking up, you know what his response was he said "Just because you didn't see lingering trails doesn't mean it wasn't happening!":rolleyes:

Well some of these people are lying through their teeth on behalf of the 'system', others are totally programmed by the system and/or their belief in it. Either way they and their off-spring are forced to breathe the same air we breathe, and one day they'll likely regret their traitorous indifference and distain for the concerns of their fellow humans.

cytro
11-02-2008, 10:59 PM
If it was just contrail activity then why didnt we see this years ago the sky never looked like that during my childhood.What is the difference in the atmosphere now or the fuel they use now compared to back then that could make such a dramatic difference .They dont even try to give an intelligent answer when replying just fob you off thinking arrogantly that we would accept any explanation .Of course maybe its only on a need to know basis so the people who think they know , know nothing never underestimate the power of smugness:D

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking this morning - I remember seeing these jets when I was little - In fact if I saw one I NEVER took my eyes off it. The trails that were left behind these jets when I was little NEVER STAYED AROUND - Didn't form into "Fake Clouds" and they where not in multipul strands. When I was little I remember them disappearing quickly after the jets flew above :mad:

truthseeker1980
17-03-2008, 03:27 PM
That's the exact same reply myself and Lightbeing got exactly a year ago, unbelievable.