Raising The Kundalini

[terry67]

could anyone please advise me to the safest way of raising a persons kundalini energy thanks

[artsapart]

Hi there,

I am not sure what you already know about kandalin so i apologise if i am telling you stuff you know......(and i am by no means an expert, so please feel free to take or leave what I say)

My understanding of the kundalini energy is that it is the dormant (in most people ) serpent within. It is possible for this serpent to rise within us energising our chakras as it passes through them.....leading to an awakening of your senses and abilities. As it is all about our base chakras I have found sexual activities to be a good way of energising the kundalini energy but I have no idea if this is safe way to raise it or not......i am sure that there are many other ways also and hope you get further advise on your subject. The whole process is not to be undertaken lightly as it can involve an awakening of issues and hidden traumas etc as it winds its path through your chakras and if this happens you need to do grounding exercises etc......I would strongly recommend you speak to a rieki therapist or someone of that ilk........hope this has helped and good luck on your quest.

[logic bomb]

could anyone please advise me to the safest way of raising a persons kundalini energy thanks

Slowly and soberly.

It will come about naturally and beautifully at its (your) own pace. Do breath work, no need to get into yoga but a straight spine is essential and spend some quiet time formulating your own meditations. Don't use mantras or sound unless you know exactly what your doing. Develop your visualization skills over time and explore moving energy through and round your body. Kundalini will rise as blockages are removed.

Don't take the short cuts. Too fast and you can do yourself some serious damage.

[chicken]

The Kundalini Awakening- is seen as equivilant to schizophrenia - well the symptoms are. My research tells me that it is the same as e-harassment as well.

New Age thought in a military and medical context.......... If you need further explanation I can do that.

Don't do it is my advice....The Theosophical Society has a good book on it......

Chicken

[ichi wa zen]

Zazen

http://www.zen-deshimaru.com.ar/webdojos/fotos/fotos_deshimaru/maestro_zen_taisen_deshimaru_zazen.jpg

[chris]

Zazen

http://www.zen-deshimaru.com.ar/webdojos/fotos/fotos_deshimaru/maestro_zen_taisen_deshimaru_zazen.jpg

Agreed.

But I would also suggest you learn how to make stones from plants which are impregnated with both it's mercury and sulfer. Take once or twice a day.

Do the above and you'll only get better and it won't take long before you will find your own way.

The last thing you should do is go the theological route and just become learned in all types of philosophies while getting no experience. This only makes you ignorant and you will have no true understanding...It's amazing how many people fall for this one.

Just by practice alone your theological knowledge will grow more rounded and you will form your own opinion (gasp) on the subject.

[tejas]

i love zen meditation it is amazing!

[somewarez]

Agreed.

But I would also suggest you learn how to make stones from plants which are impregnated with both it's mercury and sulfer. Take once or twice a day.

Do the above and you'll only get better and it won't take long before you will find your own way.


Interesting :) perhaps I am reading it the wrong way I am not very knowledgeable on such subjects but if you can either give a link or provide more info I'd be very glad :)

Thanks

SW

[logic bomb]

The last thing you should do is go the theological route and just become learned in all types of philosophies while getting no experience. This only makes you ignorant and you will have no true understanding...It's amazing how many people fall for this one.

Just by practice alone your theological knowledge will grow more rounded and you will form your own opinion (gasp) on the subject.

Well said.

True knowledge ultimately comes from direct experience. All other knowledge is only useful if it motivates you into action.

[chris]

Interesting :) perhaps I am reading it the wrong way I am not very knowledgeable on such subjects but if you can either give a link or provide more info I'd be very glad :)

Thanks

SW

I would suggest you start off with Manfred Junius's book on Plant Alchemy

http://www.erowid.org/library/books/images/plant_alchemy.jpg

Then go into the Jean Dubuis stuff from Triad Publishing. This is the shit.

It may seem difficult at first but once you get into it you create special acids which do most of the work for you and this drastically cuts time down.

[somewarez]

Ok thanks :D I'll check it out

SW

[ichi wa zen]

The last thing you should do is go the theological route and just become learned in all types of philosophies while getting no experience. This only makes you ignorant and you will have no true understanding...It's amazing how many people fall for this one.

Just by practice alone your theological knowledge will grow more rounded and you will form your own opinion (gasp) on the subject.

Well spoken! True insight you have shown! :D

The greatest Teacher is Experience!

Zazen!

[raffles]

This is a good book about kundalini you might want to check out.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kundalini-Chakras-Practical-Evolution-Lifetime/dp/0875425925/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1201644999&sr=8-3

[synergy777]

chicken is pretty spot on.

the awakening can occur and it can be quite challenging. i started with lucid dreaming, the sub conscionous would reveal many truths which i did not like or want to know. it can leave you disorientated, and i still due to my left brain/rationale ignore it. the thing is what your spirit/mind tells you can be completely weird and irrational stuff. if you are not humble you can develop a claridad syndrome like shayler. mine started on the night of the tsunami, with me asking for merlin for guidance, lol waking up saying i am the one, thus be careful of the ego's need for attention/status.

we are all the one/connected, there is a messiah/spirit/enlightenment in all of us, we are all equal in the eyes of the most high. thus all these charalatans who say i am the one, are not, they fail to recognise the basic truth, that no one person is higher/chosen, its a spiritual divine right of kings etc, that all these people fall into, look at shayler, the claridad syndrome.

we are all equal, the same, connected.

i have dreams of the hill of tara, temple mount, krishna/kalki, the ascension chapel/octogan/footprints, the lake of compassion/mt kaliash, mont st micheal/arthur, yashuah, aldebaran, archangel micheal and lately egypt. in egypt i am on the banks of a river, with crocodiles all around me, but they are peaceful, not attacking, me, thus the riutal of the anoitment/crocodile oil, hence the term messiah is derived from this ritual/ceremony etc. i also dreamt of white limestone pyramids, without knowing the pyramids of egypt were encased in white limestone when they were first made, and egypt was lush/green not the dessert it is now. i dreamt of dolphins being transported from another planet to earth. i dreamt of being in a space ship chasing a rock/ship to earth which had the fallen/angels in it, like transporting prisoners/the fallen.

i usually just these dreams for speculation/thread topics as you see from my threads.

i do have a pre cog element which after testing is remarkably accurate, but it is also full of symbolism, which thanks to lydia78, i have started to understand.

be very careful with this stuff, as its a millstone/curse/pandoras box/holy grail etc, and the universe is not all compassionate/helpful, take my word for it.

be careful what you wish for

[eternal_spirit]

I could tell you but you'd be better off figuring it out yourself.

[synergy777]

es tell me please i am on the verge of quitting.

thankfully i have another laptop, this one which is seperate to my work machine thus i can operate secretly, but its hitting the point were i would gladly give up and take the blue pill. the dreams are too much, nothing happens, no divine guidance, its a hiding to nothing.

[chris]

Well spoken! True insight you have shown! :D

The greatest Teacher is Experience!

Zazen!

Wurd. Although the Zen buddhisms greatest strength is it's simplicity it is also it's greatest weakness.

The theory behind Zen works because people don't get distracted by all the bells and whistles of other philosophies. Yet they have lost their seed which was if you track the history of Zen buddhism, they would find spagyria (plant alchemy) at it's root.

[synergy777]

what do you think of satori?

[eternal_spirit]

es tell me please i am on the verge of quitting.

thankfully i have another laptop, this one which is seperate to my work machine thus i can operate secretly, but its hitting the point were i would gladly give up and take the blue pill. the dreams are too much, nothing happens, no divine guidance, its a hiding to nothing.

........................

You know as much as I do the same methods techniques, knowledge...that's why what ever way I explained wouldn't have an effect on your own efforts. It is something you have to figure out for yourself. You may have an experience unexpectedly at any time soon.

[synergy777]

You may have an experience unexpectedly at any time soon.

i need one bro.

i feel stagnated/stuck, no progress.

[hutanic]

i need one bro.

i feel stagnated/stuck, no progress.

Sincerely and humbly ask for it is my suggestion.

At one period of my life i could raise my energy every night i would go for it, until i was given knowledge that "it has to stop in order for it to continue", and was never able to do it since that night. I know exactly process of rising it but no matter how many times i tried energy always goes in wrong direction and i fail to rise it.

Things happen when they are meant to happen so once again, ask for it or ask to be guided to it.

[equinox]

sometimes I lie down and meditate, and my body starts to go into spasms involuntarily and i can feel the heat in my spine, I just follow my intuition as to how and when i do kundalini or any other spiritual stuff.

interesting about the plant alchemy though, i'll have to look into that.:)

[altair]

i need one bro.

i feel stagnated/stuck, no progress.


I feel the same way! to be honest I havnt tried much because im just getting into the whole thing after years of discovering myself enough. I feel its now time for me to progress to more serious meditation etc. whats the best way to start with this? just meditate? can crystals help and if so which ones are the best for what?

[ichi wa zen]

Wurd. Although the Zen buddhisms greatest strength is it's simplicity it is also it's greatest weakness.

There is no "weak", "simple", "complicated" and "strong" in the True Original Self. How absurd!

[chris]

There is no "weak", "simple", "complicated" and "strong" in the True Original Self. How absurd!

I’m simply critiquing Zen because they forgo helpful tools in order to keep it simple and fluid. Get off your cloud.

[ichi wa zen]

I’m simply critiquing Zen because they forgo helpful tools in order to keep it simple and fluid. Get off your cloud.

What cloud? I am on a chair right now.

Critiquing the Universe Hey, critiquing The Truth Hey. You could do that but it will be in vain.

[psychicdefender]

Advice:

Be prepared. and enjoy.

[chris]

What cloud? I am on a chair right now.

Critiquing the Universe Hey, critiquing The Truth Hey. You could do that but it will be in vain.

You’re confusing me critiquing Zen Buddhism (which I was) with Zazen (which I wasn’t). Either that or you’re a religious kook.

All I was saying that there are other sophisticated ways to attain Zazen (which is extremely difficult to do even if your a monk). Some of these ways were part of their lineage but were taken out to keep it simple. That is why I called it’s simplicity a weakness. Unless you are willing to contest that there are no supplemental techniques to Zen which are of no benefit, to which I would point to the average Zen Buddhist diet (relatively poor).

Still, it’s simplicity it’s greatest strength because they don’t get sidetracked and this is why they have brain physiologies completely different to average westerners. So I love Zen but I don’t buy into all this “all other things are a distraction” philosophy which a lot of them are into.

[mahabaratara]

chicken is pretty spot on.

the awakening can occur and it can be quite challenging. i started with lucid dreaming, the sub conscionous would reveal many truths which i did not like or want to know. it can leave you disorientated, and i still due to my left brain/rationale ignore it. the thing is what your spirit/mind tells you can be completely weird and irrational stuff. if you are not humble you can develop a claridad syndrome like shayler. mine started on the night of the tsunami, with me asking for merlin for guidance, lol waking up saying i am the one, thus be careful of the ego's need for attention/status.

we are all the one/connected, there is a messiah/spirit/enlightenment in all of us, we are all equal in the eyes of the most high. thus all these charalatans who say i am the one, are not, they fail to recognise the basic truth, that no one person is higher/chosen, its a spiritual divine right of kings etc, that all these people fall into, look at shayler, the claridad syndrome.

we are all equal, the same, connected.

i have dreams of the hill of tara, temple mount, krishna/kalki, the ascension chapel/octogan/footprints, the lake of compassion/mt kaliash, mont st micheal/arthur, yashuah, aldebaran, archangel micheal and lately egypt. in egypt i am on the banks of a river, with crocodiles all around me, but they are peaceful, not attacking, me, thus the riutal of the anoitment/crocodile oil, hence the term messiah is derived from this ritual/ceremony etc. i also dreamt of white limestone pyramids, without knowing the pyramids of egypt were encased in white limestone when they were first made, and egypt was lush/green not the dessert it is now. i dreamt of dolphins being transported from another planet to earth. i dreamt of being in a space ship chasing a rock/ship to earth which had the fallen/angels in it, like transporting prisoners/the fallen.

i usually just these dreams for speculation/thread topics as you see from my threads.

i do have a pre cog element which after testing is remarkably accurate, but it is also full of symbolism, which thanks to lydia78, i have started to understand.

be very careful with this stuff, as its a millstone/curse/pandoras box/holy grail etc, and the universe is not all compassionate/helpful, take my word for it.

be careful what you wish for


Havent had any Alien stuff as I call them Demons but yes there have been battles so people should be vary careful about what they want...

Sometimes you get it but the costs are high...

[ichi wa zen]

You’re confusing me critiquing Zen Buddhism (which I was) with Zazen (which I wasn’t). Either that or you’re a religious kook.

I do not know what Zen is. You do! Get off your cloud! :p

So I love Zen but I don’t buy into all this “all other things are a distraction” philosophy which a lot of them are into.

What distractions?!? Duality!

[chris]

The last thing you should do is go the theological route and just become learned in all types of philosophies while getting no experience. This only makes you ignorant and you will have no true understanding...It's amazing how many people fall for this one.

Just by practice alone your theological knowledge will grow more rounded and you will form your own opinion (gasp) on the subject.


Well spoken! True insight you have shown! :D

The greatest Teacher is Experience!

Zazen!

Thank you.

You’re confusing me critiquing Zen Buddhism (which I was) with Zazen (which I wasn’t). Either that or you’re a religious kook.

I do not know what Zen is. You do! Get off your cloud! :p

Well if you listen to teachers of Zen then you will know that your are not experiencing when you are sitting cross legged. True knowledge is when you attain Zazen or an enlightened state; the goal of Zen meditations is a means to get to that state of mind and I’m sure you agree with me here.

However, you are taking to heart when I criticize Zen Buddhists for being narrow minded when it comes to other techniques other than Zen meditation. I am not critiquing the knowledge learned from the enlightened state, I am saying that although their philosophy is good, it’s not the only way and other techniques can be used to supplement it. So yes if you’re not making a distinction between the practicing meditation and experiencing then you are being ignorant.


So I love Zen but I don’t buy into all this “all other things are a distraction” philosophy which a lot of them are into.

What distractions?!? Duality!

I was referring to the Zen monks that say that the Astral Plane is just a distraction when it can be used as a tool. I was referring to those that say Spagyrics are a distraction when they are a very powerful tool and many other things which a lot of Zen Buddhists stick their noses up at in exchange for simplicity.

[ichi wa zen]

There is no "state" to "attain", what Zen teachers are you listening to?

"THE WAY IS BASICALLY PERFECT AND ALL-PERVADING. How could it be contingent upon practice and realization? The Truth-vehicle is free and untrammeled. What need is there for one’s concentrated effort? Indeed, the Whole Body is far beyond the world’s dust. Who could believe in a means to brush it clean? It is never apart from one right where one is. What is the use in going off here and there to practice?"

Dogen Zenji

"Originally there is no tree of enlightenment, Nor there is a stand with a bright mirror. Since everything is primordially empty, what is there for dust to cling to?"

Sixth Patriach Hui Neng

[chris]

There is no "state" to "attain", what Zen teachers are you listening to?

A state of infinity with the universe, or a state of nothingness or nirvana, samadhi, grace, Satori or Kensho...

"THE WAY IS BASICALLY PERFECT AND ALL-PERVADING. How could it be contingent upon practice and realization? The Truth-vehicle is free and untrammeled. What need is there for one’s concentrated effort? Indeed, the Whole Body is far beyond the world’s dust. Who could believe in a means to brush it clean? It is never apart from one right where one is. What is the use in going off here and there to practice?"

Dogen Zenji

"Originally there is no tree of enlightenment, Nor there is a stand with a bright mirror. Since everything is primordially empty, what is there for dust to cling to?"

Sixth Patriach Hui Neng

Wow thanks for those pearls:rolleyes:

[marpat]

Firstly, why do you feel a need to raise the kundalini? I used to think that it was them main aspect of development but this is not true. Kundalini (or Shakti) yoga is just one branch of several that can further spiritual development. I would say that it is active to some degree in most people seeking development but to deliberatly awaken the entire force in one go is asking for trouble if you have no guide or experience. If control is lost or if an energy blockage is hit then you can find yourself in trouble for a long period of time. This is why there is usually a lot of time preparing the nadis and chakras (and the relevant aspecst of mind) before the awakening.

You can imagine what would happen if it was unleashed and empowered a lot of negative baggage that had been left in the bak of the mind!!

[ichi wa zen]

A state of infinity with the universe, or a state of nothingness or nirvana, samadhi, grace, Satori or Kensho...

We are infinite and limited mind at the same time, not one or the other, dualism is the barrier. The Middle Way is the path.

Wow thanks for those pearls:rolleyes:

Thanks, they are great words of wisdom indeed. Here are some more concerning duality:

Earth, mountains, rivers - hidden in this nothingness.
In this nothingness - earth, mountains, rivers revealed.
Spring flowers, winter snows:
There's no being or non-being, nor denial itself.

Saisho

Where Mind and each believing mind are not divided,
And undivided are each believing mind and Mind,
This is where words fail;
For it is not of the past, present, and future.

Bodhi-Dharma

We pray for our life of tomorrow,
Ephemeral life though it be;
This is the habit of our mind
That passed away yesterday.

Ikkyu

[chris]

We are infinite and limited mind at the same time, not one or the other, dualism is the barrier. The Middle Way is the path.



Thanks, they are great words of wisdom indeed. Here are some more concerning duality:

Earth, mountains, rivers - hidden in this nothingness.
In this nothingness - earth, mountains, rivers revealed.
Spring flowers, winter snows:
There's no being or non-being, nor denial itself.

Saisho

Where Mind and each believing mind are not divided,
And undivided are each believing mind and Mind,
This is where words fail;
For it is not of the past, present, and future.

Bodhi-Dharma

We pray for our life of tomorrow,
Ephemeral life though it be;
This is the habit of our mind
That passed away yesterday.

Ikkyu

lol man

[cookie2]

When the time is right in your spiritual progress it will happen naturally.I had an experience about 10 years ago when i visited a Tibetan Buddhist Center in the Scottish borders.No hours and hours of meditation,or yoga.Just being in the right place at the right time.You will know when you make the right connection.

[terry67]

hi there, sorry for the delay but thanks very much for your reply