I can make clouds disappear, how is it possible?

[ripe4change]

I have done it many times. I have read one explanation here:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/visualrayrevisited03apr07.shtml (http://http://educate-yourself.org/cn/visualrayrevisited03apr07.shtml)


Does anyone else have any knowledge or experience of this to share?

[cruise4]

Interesting. I have tried, and appeared to, make a cloud dissipate too. I couldn't believe it... however I put it down to co-incidence and by no means can I do it at will... if at all.

[ripe4change]

I thought it may be coincindental at first. However I have been able to do this at will to whatever cloud I select, and the surrounding clouds remain.

[spiraltrance]

Are you able to videotape yourself doing this and put it on youtube?

[lookfar]

That's great stuff ripe4change :D

I totally believe that we all have the ability to do this & we proved it last summer on here with the "Help Wanted - More Sunshine to the UK" thread (here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5963)). Lots of us were cloudbusting & OMG it really works!!:cool:

At first you're so shocked that you tell yourself it was purely coincidence, but the more you do it, the more you realise it's doable & really quite easy when you put your mind to it (pun intended, lol!). I even had my 5yr old son doing it too, lol!:D

[kblood]

I have tried wishing away rain where my brother was delivering mail while talking to him on the phone and poof, rain stopped instantly :)

[ripe4change]

Thanks Lookfar and others! I believe anyone can do this also. If you haven't tried it, give it a try!

[alice1111]

When I click on the link, I just get server not found.

Alice

[mk72]

Hi ripe4change - Stewart Swerdlow wrote about that in his books, he also talks about messages in the clouds meant for him and even had witnesses with him when that happened. Have you experienced that as well? Anyway I think he would be the person to give you more info on that.

[on the road]

Are you able to videotape yourself doing this and put it on youtube?

what he said.

[alice1111]

Well, I made it to the site, now I'll try it out when it's cloudy.

Alice

[ashyr]

sounds like youve read "Illusions" by richard bach!

[orgo knight]

Yeah, I've tried it and was blown away when it worked.

Apparently by looking at the cloud you draw the orgone energy that was residing within the cloud, into your eyes and then into your body.

source
http://educate-yourself.org/tjc/visualray21may0.shtml

[sorento]

I have taught many people how to make a cloud disappear, it is quite easy and the best way to prove to yoursel, that you are a part of the universal whole and directly connected with the universal mind which expands into many dimensions and many universes.

Best regards Sorento

Ps. This is my first contribution on this Webside, I therfore also extend my best wishes and love to all the members!

Sorento

[alice1111]

Welcome Sorento,

IMO It is about finding out about yourself and about the world or reality you live in. Because otherwise, I don't care about clouds and wish I had more, but not chemtrails.

Love,

Alice

[ripe4change]

Thanks for all the repiles. It does make me wonder what else I may be able to do with my mind. These are certainly interesting times to be alive.

[revolutionary_jam]

I've tried cloud busting a few times, i'm amazed how effective it is

[ichi wa zen]

I have found out that if you have a "clear mindstate", the clouds will not appear 95% of the time you are outside, atleast this is what i experience.

Raining stops 95% of the time i get outside and the sun seems to follow me where ever i go. If it does rain, its like real rain with big drops and not those little drops, you know that annoying rain that has not decided if it wanted to really rain yet.

I also heard of these experiences from other people who meditate a lot!

Its like as if an "enlightened mind" is represented in the clouds surrounding you.

This truly is a magical world!

[survivor1]

I've done it a few times after reading illusions about 10 years ago and was freaked at the time. No I just accept it as possible and simple, a bit like the story Icke talks about with the stage hypnotist, a man and his daughter.
I realise we create our own reality if we realise it or not and editing a small cloud out of your reality is easily done.

[phildee3]

I can make clouds disappear



Cool!

Now...

How about the government??

[kblood]

Thanks for all the repiles. It does make me wonder what else I may be able to do with my mind. These are certainly interesting times to be alive.

Hehe :) You would be surprised ;) I never thought it would be easier to do with clouds than anything else. I think I will try it one day as well, I never thought about clouds being something that could be controlled this way. Next step: Change the shape of the clouds, for others to see :D

[ripe4change]

Just found this story also

January 19, 2008

13 Year Old on Visual Ray & Chemtrail Education Among Schoolmates (Jan. 20,. 2008)

Subject: visual ray, chemtrails
From: mars.hall@valley.net
Date: Sat, January 19, 2008
To: Editor

Hello, Mr. Adachi,

I'm thirteen, and my dad visits your site daily. What he shows me I find very interesting. When your article came out on the 'visual ray', I had lots of fun. I showed my classmates last spring and they were able to make a few clouds dissappear themselves. They, like you said, "went bananas over it"; except for my teacher, who was sceptical, and two of the guys, who thought I was off my rocker. After a while I got a headache, so I stopped for a bit. Last week my class went on a field trip to a museum which also houses Vermont's primary meteorological service. We were given a lecture by the head meteorologist. Afterwards, I asked him about chemtrails. He said that "some people think they're spreading poisomous gasses". He said that whether or not the 'contrails' stay is governed by the level of humidity at that altitude. He seemed like he was trying to brush the question off.

Thank you for your website.

John Marshall



http://educate-yourself.org/lte/visualrayandchemtraileducation19jan08.shtml

[ichi wa zen]

Cool!

Now...

How about the government??

Mwuahhahaha Funny One dude, laughed my ass off, dry sarcasm rocks! :D

True, who cares! Lets make the Elite disappear :D

[phildee3]

Originally Posted by phildee3:
Cool!
Now...
How about the government??


Mwuahhahaha Funny One dude, laughed my ass off, dry sarcasm rocks!




This is no sarcasm, itchy.

They need all the help they can get!

[dmessick]

I've never tried to make a cloud disapear but I do remember seeing a smiley face :) cloud the first time I smoked pot. :confused:

[craven dark]

Whoa!!!! tried this today, even when it was full cloud cover it still worked.
i'm totally blown away.
if you live in london and you had blue blue sky this afternoon it was me:D:D:D
perhaps we are entering a new phase re: mind wise!!!!

[thomas00]

Hi i have read the thread and find it fasinating. I have tryed to make an cloud disapearing. But how do i do. because nothing happend those few times i have tryed it. I have read the article on educate your self, but i have a bit trouple understanding the how to do it.

Thomas:)

[ripe4change]

Ok, now that we know this is a widespread phenomenon - any ideas as to WHY is this possible. Is this just some neat trick we evolved? what is it's purpose?

[phildee3]

Ok, now that we know this is a widespread phenomenon - any ideas as to WHY is this possible. Is this just some neat trick we evolved? what is it's purpose?



Humanity's collective consciousness has taken a quantum leap.
All kinds of psychic abilities are becoming commonplace.

[marc_o]

:eek::eek:In already 3 pages of posts, people are conlcuding it works, and rightly so if they themselves have witnessed or done it.

But for those of us like me, whose Bullshit detector is going into overdrive, I say bullshit, I mean lunatic detector, could someone please provide some video evidence??

I mean I can understand the whole mind over matter thing, and I suppose because clouds are super light they would be piss to move if you could move stuff. But cloUds do dissipate by themselves, so I'm just very sceptical of these claims you are making.

[phildee3]

I mean I can understand the whole mind over matter thing, and I suppose because clouds are super light they would be piss to move if you could move stuff. But cloUds do dissipate by themselves, so I'm just very sceptical of these claims you are making.



Of course there is also the question of whether we are actually causing the clouds to dissipate, or if our psychic subconscious is selecting clouds that are going to dissipate anyway.

[marc_o]

I'm gonna try this for myself, imagine knowing that party trick!

Unfortunatly may main obsticle is my belowpar understanding of English. Can someone help me with this bit:

Sit down in a quiet place and point the ends of your fingers at each other from your slightly cupped hands. Separate the fingers by an inch or two and move them back and forth so they are horizontally traversing each other. Close your eyes and quiet yourself until you feel the feathery, gossamer like brushing sensation as the rays of orgone energy emerging from your fingertips cut across each other. Most people can feel it within a few minutes. As you become more sensitized to the feel of the rays, you can separate your fingers wider apart and see how far out you can notice the effect. For the skeptical who think it's the action of air currents, place a large cardboard wall between your hands and oscillate your hands again. You will still feel the brushing sensation because orgone goes right through cardboard. Trevor mentions that Rudolf Steiner describes, in his writings, the role of the etheric body in all of the body's sensory processes of perception.

The bit in bold, wtf am i supposed to do?

How do I 'move them back and forth so they are horizontally traversing'.

Traversing means to move up/down, across etc, and horizontal movements can be from South to North or East to west + vice versa, so what exactly are the movements I must make? :confused:

Cheers

[jacob1111]

cloudbusting - nikola tesla, google it my friends ;)

[kashmirz]

So how does one go about making them appear, THAT i would like to learn how to do.

[phildee3]

So how does one go about making them appear, THAT i would like to learn how to do.



Reverse the process.

[kashmirz]

i shall have to practice this at length. will keep you posted.

[leaf]

That's insane... I have to try it.

I used to try and move things with my mind when I was little. But nothing. I'll give this a go.

Hey, is there anyway to make the clouds appear? I actually favour rain over sunny weather.

[ripe4change]

Those that said they would try it...how's it going?

[damagedbrainn]

That kinda sucks for everyone and everything else in your environment that might need the rain.

I second the "bullshit detector". Forget all the various characteristics that factor into one's climate, as well as the entire concept of the ecosystem and its necessary cycles.....No, the weather can in fact be manipulated upon an individual's whim. What a swell idea. What could possibly go wrong?

[nextristan]

don't steal my sunshine

[illuminati0n]

Sorry this is a bit off topic but people should try this also. At one stage i was right into this whole mind power thing and the first time i had success with this i was high as a kite (and no, i dont see things, hallucinate or have a false perception of reality). I was walking along with some mates and one was about 15m ahead and i tried projecting the word "f**khead" at him. After about 10 times he turned around and said "what'd ya say?". I've known him for about 10 years and never could i recall an instance where he asked what i said when i didnt say nothing. Surely enough i done it again with the same mate and got the same response when he was staying at my joint. Ive done this about a dozen times. Ive even been walking behind a chick who was like 3 blocks ahead and tried projecting that whistling sound at her and right at the moment i done it she turned around and looked as though she heard. This has happened to often to be coincidence and i know in my own mind these things actually happened due to me projecting it. They say you have to project it right below actually speaking it out loud, i dunno how to grasp that in my mind exactly but i just tried to imagine that i was actually speaking it out loud, and just try to direct it at a person i guess. Sorry bout the long post but its something to experiment with.

[cruise4]

No thats like staring at someone and they turn around, or feeling someone staring at you.

[adimon]

I have done it many times. I have read one explanation here:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/visualrayrevisited03apr07.shtml (http://http://educate-yourself.org/cn/visualrayrevisited03apr07.shtml)


Does anyone else have any knowledge or experience of this to share?

Are you able to videotape yourself doing this and put it on youtube?

I have tried wishing away rain where my brother was delivering mail while talking to him on the phone and poof, rain stopped instantly :)

Thanks Lookfar and others! I believe anyone can do this also. If you haven't tried it, give it a try!

Can we get some videos then people? :)

I live in possibly the rainiest place in the UK and have tried this a few times, but to no avail.

I think you're all having me on... :p

[kesdin]

I can make clouds disapear too, I can make all of them disappear. It just takes 12 hours but at least I can go to bed right after.

[adimon]

I think you're all having me on... :p

Come on guys...share the magic!

I'm really starting to think this is a wind-up! How is it done?

Does ANYONE have any videos? :confused: :p

[phildee3]

Come on guys...share the magic!

I'm really starting to think this is a wind-up! How is it done?

Does ANYONE have any videos?



Here's one of a more advanced form of the same phenomenon.
Compared to this, clouds are a piece of cake!

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1562039690219561839&q=prophet+yahweh&total=198&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[adimon]

Nellis? LOL :D

Yeah, that's a PLANE.

As for the Prophet Yahweh, if he's a prophet of Yahweh, isn't he commanded not to take the Lord's name in vain? Isn't he renegging on that by calling himself by the same name as his creator? ;)

[phildee3]

isn't he commanded not to take the Lord's name in vain?



Wrong thread.

[lookfar]

Yeah guys can we please try to keep this one on topic please - thanks :)

[adimon]

Yeah guys can we please try to keep this one on topic please - thanks :)

My apologies. So has anyone got footage of themselves making clouds disappear, or can anyone tell me how to do it please? :)

[phildee3]

My apologies. So has anyone got footage of themselves making clouds disappear, or can anyone tell me how to do it please?



You mean anyone who has a name that you find acceptable!

That is not a plane on that video.
Nor is it a man-made, black ops craft.
It is connected to the phenomenon in question, which involves the mind.

[lookfar]

My apologies. So has anyone got footage of themselves making clouds disappear, or can anyone tell me how to do it please? :)

No footage as far as I can gather, but just give it a go Chris :) I find that when I concentrate on a specific cloud or part of one, I repeat the thought in my head something along the lines of "with the power of my mind I will disperse this cloud" or whatever & imagine you are beaming rays or blowing it away - it really does work (not instantly, but over about 5 - 10 minutes). I've also done this by creating a hole in a cloud too so that the sun shines through it too.

[adimon]

You mean anyone who has a name that you find acceptable!

I've got nothing against that guys name, it's just contradictory to what he says he is (a prophet).

Find me a muslim called Allah and I'd say the same thing ;)

That is not a plane on that video.
Nor is it a man-made, black ops craft.

What makes you so sure? It sure moves like a plane. Most UFOs generally are planes. Its near Nellis, where they test some really fucking futuristic shit...adds up IMO.

No footage as far as I can gather, but just give it a go Chris :) I find that when I concentrate on a specific cloud or part of one, I repeat the thought in my head something along the lines of "with the power of my mind I will disperse this cloud" or whatever & imagine you are beaming rays or blowing it away - it really does work (not instantly, but over about 5 - 10 minutes). I've also done this by creating a hole in a cloud too so that the sun shines through it too.

Thanks Lookfar :)

I did try several times, and I was patient too! I waited maybe 20-25 minutes and nothing happened. Ah well, maybe I'll have better luck another time.

Perhaps you can show me at a meetup if we ever organise one I can get to! :)

[phildee3]

What makes you so sure?



Qualitative perception.

There are many videos of this guy with UFOs on the net.

Sure he's wacko, - so you would be with his attributes!
But that doesn't mean this isn't the real thing.

[edelweiss pirate]

Sorry this is a bit off topic but people should try this also. At one stage i was right into this whole mind power thing and the first time i had success with this i was high as a kite (and no, i dont see things, hallucinate or have a false perception of reality). I was walking along with some mates and one was about 15m ahead and i tried projecting the word "f**khead" at him. After about 10 times he turned around and said "what'd ya say?". I've known him for about 10 years and never could i recall an instance where he asked what i said when i didnt say nothing. Surely enough i done it again with the same mate and got the same response when he was staying at my joint. Ive done this about a dozen times. Ive even been walking behind a chick who was like 3 blocks ahead and tried projecting that whistling sound at her and right at the moment i done it she turned around and looked as though she heard. This has happened to often to be coincidence and i know in my own mind these things actually happened due to me projecting it. They say you have to project it right below actually speaking it out loud, i dunno how to grasp that in my mind exactly but i just tried to imagine that i was actually speaking it out loud, and just try to direct it at a person i guess. Sorry bout the long post but its something to experiment with.

Cool. I'm gonna try it... With my girl.... psychic sweet-talk.. yeah baby!

What I do like about the story is the fact that you were using our natural and magical psychic gifts to call your mate a fuckhead... classic.

[ripe4change]

It's true! Sometimes when I walk behind a pretty girrl with a great ass I fantasize and project thoughts towards her. Many times they will turn around with a look of disgust or blushing or delighted, other times they dont look around but they will tug their shirt or jacket down to cover up their ass.
FUN!

[danster82]

You focus on a cloud watch it for about 5mins and its gone everytime without fail. Its got nothing to do with you making clouds dissapear its just the atmosphere watch a timelapse video of clouds they appear and disapear.

sorry to pop you amazing supernatural bubble.

If by disapear you mean they simple pop out of existence in the blink of an eye then i appolgies and would like to see a video of that.

[somethinganonymous]

I read this thread a while ago, and it stuck to my mind, and I thought I had to give it a go. Today it wasn't much wind, so outside school, I picked a cloud to "bust" and lo and behold it disappeared very quickly! The surrounding clouds didn't... It was a cool experience and it have made my day, as I'm so happy for some strange reason. I just can't stop smiling:)

Now, is there any benefits to making the clouds disappear by absorbing the Chi energy of the clouds? i.e. any health benefits, spiritual benefits etc.?

[somethinganonymous]

Sorry this is a bit off topic but people should try this also. At one stage i was right into this whole mind power thing and the first time i had success with this i was high as a kite (and no, i dont see things, hallucinate or have a false perception of reality). I was walking along with some mates and one was about 15m ahead and i tried projecting the word "f**khead" at him. After about 10 times he turned around and said "what'd ya say?". I've known him for about 10 years and never could i recall an instance where he asked what i said when i didnt say nothing. Surely enough i done it again with the same mate and got the same response when he was staying at my joint. Ive done this about a dozen times. Ive even been walking behind a chick who was like 3 blocks ahead and tried projecting that whistling sound at her and right at the moment i done it she turned around and looked as though she heard. This has happened to often to be coincidence and i know in my own mind these things actually happened due to me projecting it. They say you have to project it right below actually speaking it out loud, i dunno how to grasp that in my mind exactly but i just tried to imagine that i was actually speaking it out loud, and just try to direct it at a person i guess. Sorry bout the long post but its something to experiment with.

Yeah it works, and you can even project other things as well, like love, happiness and even sexual energy... Try to think of something or someone you love very much. Feel the feeling of really loving the person and visualize the color of the feeling. Then raise your arms in front of your eyes, and visualize shooting the feeling into your palms, in the shape of a ball. Then just shoot the ball at a girl you want to experience the feelings... If they are in touch with their subconcious mind, they will instantly share the feeling of love/joy/horniness/sadness/pain/etc. with you... Takes a bit of work, but it is surprisingly easy with practise.

EDIT: subconcious mind, not unconcious...

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

wow good on u- that's a great skill. I can teach u a few more things that will help u hone that and similar skills if u want to- just pm me.

[yellow jacket]

here's a youtube video of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmj9kP6RQxA

I don't know about this one. Is it just the fact that during the 5 minutes the wind has blown the cloud apart if it is small enough?

this one is a little better because whoever is doing it focuses on a section of a larger cloud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI-Fz12dgm4&feature=related

[shea]

Simple question.
Whats the method for it, In simple instructions?

[phildee3]

Simple question.
Whats the method for it, In simple instructions?



Simple answer:
Concentration.

[shea]

Okay so just concentrate nothing else?
I asked for the method as in the thing with your hands?

[phildee3]

Okay so just concentrate nothing else?
I asked for the method as in the thing with your hands?



What thing is that?

You said you wanted it simple.
Now you want to complicate it.
If you want to, fine.
Go ahead,
but it's unecessary.

[shea]

What thing is that?

You said you wanted it simple.
Now you want to complicate it.
If you want to, fine.
Go ahead,
but it's unecessary.

Okay put it this way. Someone wants to learn to play chess. How do you play chess? Just concentrate. I just want simple instructions on how to do it...

[phildee3]

Okay put it this way. Someone wants to learn to play chess. How do you play chess? Just concentrate. I just want simple instructions on how to do it...



There are no simple instructions on how to play chess.
WTF are you talking about???

[shea]

There are no simple instructions on how to play chess.
WTF are you talking about???

omg your not serious. Okay ill ask one more time
Could some , ANYONE, tell me how to cloudbust in a simple method or short bullet points?
Or is that to hard to ask?

[lookfar]

here's a youtube video of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmj9kP6RQxA

I don't know about this one. Is it just the fact that during the 5 minutes the wind has blown the cloud apart if it is small enough?

this one is a little better because whoever is doing it focuses on a section of a larger cloud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI-Fz12dgm4&feature=related

Hi yellow jacket & welcome to the forum :)

That is a great vid there by Neil Slade, absolutely brilliant & shows exactly what happens when you cloudbust yourself, plus I also liked his explanation of it too. Nice find & thanks for sharing :D

EDIT: Didn't see the second one, so just watching that now :cool:

[shea]

Nice. see when you cloud bust.. Do you have to do anything with your hands. Or is it all just focusing on the cloud and imagining it dissapearing?

[lookfar]

Nice. see when you cloud bust.. Do you have to do anything with your hands. Or is it all just focusing on the cloud and imagining it dissapearing?

Hi shea

I don't do anything with my hands when I do this, it's all done in your mind with focus, concentration & intent. You have to totally believe in what you're doing, no doubts at all or it won't work. I just picture a beam shooting out of the middle of my forehead at the clouds & say in my head "by the power of my mind I will disperse this cloud" over & over again, or something along those lines anyway & just concentrate on it:) Try it, you'll be amazed when it first happens honestly:D

I've done it a few times now & so has my son who's 6. I like it when I can make a hole in the cloud so that the sun peeks through, it's great man :D

[shea]

Thanks mate. I have been asking the question about how is it done.
AND THANK YOU. you have finally answered it XD.

It would be great when im outside and im freezing because the clouds blocking the sun haha

Cloudbusting must only be the start of it. I wonder could you starbust :)

[lookfar]

Thanks mate. I have been asking the question about how is it done.
AND THANK YOU. you have finally answered it XD.

It would be great when im outside and im freezing because the clouds blocking the sun haha

Cloudbusting must only be the start of it. I wonder could you starbust :)

You're welcome :) Hehe, well go give it a try for yourself honey & let us know how you get on:D The proof is in the pudding & all that!

It's great making the sun peek out between clouds, it still amazes me every time I manage to do it.

Hmm I'm not sure about starbusting though, personally I like them where they are, so I'm quite happy with doing a bit of cloudbusting when I feel the urge to :)

[shea]

I really hope your a girl, calling me honey.
Because i would be defiantly be scared for life if i found out you were a man haha

Yeah well cant wait for a cloudy day :]

[phildee3]

here's a youtube video of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmj9kP6RQxA



This is good info.
What Neil Slade doesn't tell you, though, is how to "click your amygdala forward." If you go to his website, you have to read through the page until you come to the answer that never comes. Then you get to the foot of the page where he tries to sell you the book (which probably doesn't tell you how to do it either!). Perhaps this is what shea is looking for; - after all, the Irish have plenty of money to throw around these days! :)

However, I can tell you how to do it:
Concentrate.
I know shea doesn't believe me, but that's all there is to it.
And another thing that Slade doesn't tell us is that only the right amygdala is a transmitter. The left one is a receiver.

What you are doing (simply by concentrating on the cloud, ufo, or whatever - and shutting out other thoughts) is projecting your intent on a beam of your own monadic, life-force energy.
Sufficient energy is utilized to achieve the objective and then the remaining energy is returned to you.

Since the monad, and the energy of which it consists, is infinite:
infinity minus x amount equals infinity
and the monadic energy is returned to you exactly as it left - infinite.

Your brain is the perfect free-energy machine!
And this is just the start of learning how to use it to do anything!!!

[lookfar]

I really hope your a girl, calling me honey.
Because i would be defiantly be scared for life if i found out you were a man haha

Yeah well cant wait for a cloudy day :]

LOL, well I'm a bit older than a 'girl', but definitely female :p:D

Yeah get cloudbusting, it's fun & good luck with it, you KNOW you can do it!!:D

[shea]

Oh i sent you a pm. Read it.

[lookfar]

Oh i sent you a pm. Read it.

Yeah I got it, thanks. I'll reply in a bit cos I'm watching a vid at the mo...:)

[shea]

No problemmm ;)

[danster82]

That video is a clear example about what I was saying that clouds just naturally appear and disappear this is obvious when you watch a time lapse video of clouds. So the guys says focus on the middle cloud so I chose to focus on the left cloud and the left cloud disappeared at the same rate as the centre cloud..

Im not trying to pop peoples clouds here I do beleive the mind has power but i dont think this is the result of the mind.

[lookfar]

That video is a clear example about what I was saying that clouds just naturally appear and disappear this is obvious when you watch a time lapse video of clouds. So the guys says focus on the middle cloud so I chose to focus on the left cloud and the left cloud disappeared at the same rate as the centre cloud..

Im not trying to pop peoples clouds here I do beleive the mind has power but i dont think this is the result of the mind.

Hi danster82

Although you're obviously entitled to your opinion on this, can I just ask if you've actually given it a go for yourself? It's really worth a go imo, it's quite astounding!:D

[eternal_spirit]

I can make clouds disappear, how is it possible?

....................

Deluded people and children think this

I used to be one, but have since awoken from this particular delusion.

If they stopped spraying chemtrails then they really could make clouds disappear

[eternal_spirit]

That video is a clear example about what I was saying that clouds just naturally appear and disappear this is obvious when you watch a time lapse video of clouds. So the guys says focus on the middle cloud so I chose to focus on the left cloud and the left cloud disappeared at the same rate as the centre cloud..

Im not trying to pop peoples clouds here I do beleive the mind has power but i dont think this is the result of the mind.

..................

Agreed, let's take the logical approach.

Law of average, random chaos and the chance. factor.

Plus clouds do their own thing too you know.

[who elsie]

Reading this thread with interest, I remembered where I'd heard of this concept before - Masaru Emoto's 'Hidden Messages in Water", in which he guides the reader through an experiment in thought projection, called 'cloud erasing', which is exactly as described by people here. He describes how our consciousness can have an enormous impact on our physical world and the reason it works well with clouds, is because clouds consist of water in a gaseous state . Humans are, of course, 70% water, and, therefore, have a special relationship/connection with other water-based forms.

I have tried it a number of times and it works every time. Amazing!

[lookfar]

..................

Agreed, let's take the logical approach.

Law of average, random chaos and the chance. factor.

Plus clouds do their own thing too you know.

Oh eternal, haven't you even tried this for yourself before you diss it?:)

The law of average etc is fine, but we also have to remember the power of thought & intent, which are also extremely strong factors to take into account (as who elsie has clearly pointed out above:D)

I reckon you should give it a go honey, it really does work!:D

[upsetbrit]

I've tried this years ago and it worked. I just put it down to coincidence at the time. Interesting.

I hate to digress but regarding a strange cloud about 17 years ago, i was in the school playground and the sky was a perfect blue except for a big cloud literally on the horizon many many miles to the S.E.

Above me, at a very low altitude, i saw a PERFECT ring of cloud. It wasn't a normal cloud... no way. Impossible!
I was amazed at this ring which was moving eastwards at a relatively low speed and continued until it faded away.
My best friend at the time didn't seem so bothered by it when i showed him, but to me, i was awestruck.

I remember it perfectly to this day. Even the voices of the other children playing, echoing in my memory...

I felt really special to have seen it.

[lookfar]

I've tried this years ago and it worked. I just put it down to coincidence at the time. Interesting.

I hate to digress but regarding a strange cloud about 17 years ago, i was in the school playground and the sky was a perfect blue except for a big cloud literally on the horizon many many miles to the S.E.

Above me, at a very low altitude, i saw a PERFECT ring of cloud. It wasn't a normal cloud... no way. Impossible!
I was amazed at this ring which was moving eastwards at a relatively low speed and continued until it faded away.
My best friend at the time didn't seem so bothered by it when i showed him, but to me, i was awestruck.

I remember it perfectly to this day. Even the voices of the other children playing, echoing in my memory...

I felt really special to have seen it.

Hi upsetbrit & welcome to the forum :)

Wow, that sounds like something special that you witnessed all those years ago & I'm glad that you can remember it so clearly even today:)

Back to the subject of cloudbusting... I was gonna post about this the other night but forgot. It was Thursday night & I was sat outside having a smoke & this low cloud was spreading across the sky & blocking my view of the moon. So I aimed a beam at it from my mind & it almost instantly disappeared around the moon so that I could carry on watching it!:D:cool: It still makes me smile when it happens.

[xpleet]

Has anyone considered the possibility that,

you don't make clouds disappear *BUT*

you practize the abilitiy of precognition as to which cloud will vanish next?

I think that one is worth to think about.

[phildee3]

Has anyone considered the possibility that,

you don't make clouds disappear *BUT*

you practize the abilitiy of precognition as to which cloud will vanish next?



Certainly.

Have you considered the possiblity that they might be one and the same thing?

(ie. there is no such thing as cause and effect, -
only synchronicites)?

[lookfar]

Hehe I don't really care what expanation is given, the fact that it works when you do it is enough proof for me:D

[xpleet]

Certainly.

Have you considered the possiblity that they might be one and the same thing?

No I don't see that's possible lol.

Either you make them disappear or not. Or they disappear by themselves and then you just know when they will.

The one thing is imposing your will over physical matter which is a pretty ability.

[lookfar]

No I don't see that's possible lol.

Either you make them disappear or not. Or they disappear by themselves and then you just know when they will.

The one thing is imposing your will over physical matter which is a pretty ability.

Hi xpleet & welcome to the forum :)

I do get phildee's point though, I think he means that all of the above is possible, plus you also could be using precognition too (all as part of the same thing, like you picked that specific cloud to focus on by knowing beforehand that it would disperse, as well as knowing you have the abilty to disperse it yourself...). Not sure that makes sense what I wrote there, but it's hard to put into words, lol:)

Anyway it's making my brain hurt thinking like that - as I said above, I know it work's so that's good enough for me, hehe!:D Have you tried it yourself?

[phildee3]

The one thing is imposing your will over physical matter which is a pretty ability.



It's not pretty at all.

The imposition of will is the very thing that is wrong with humnanity.
It is the very thing that is behind the NWO, the rise of empires, the Third Reich, etc. etc. It is the cause of all war!

Clouds are beautiful.
They are part of us and we are part of them.
It is all just happening, and we must achieve this level of consciousness if the human race is to survive.

Enjoy.
Let it be!

[element]

A sky without clouds is much more beautiful.

If you've ever been to Egypt, you'll understand. :)

[phildee3]

A sky without clouds is much more beautiful.

If you've ever been to Egypt, you'll understand.



The most beautiful sky is the one you're under - right now!

[xpleet]

It's not pretty at all.

The imposition of will is the very thing that is wrong with humnanity.
It is the very thing that is behind the NWO, the rise of empires, the Third Reich, etc. etc. It is the cause of all war!

Clouds are beautiful.
They are part of us and we are part of them.
It is all just happening, and we must achieve this level of consciousness if the human race is to survive.

Enjoy.
Let it be!

You are of course totally right.

Freewill is a divine rule. But "imposition" is the basic setup of this Matrix (universe), I call it "Virtual Reality". Everything runs on programming for sure.

Well it's a pretty rare ability :p...to impose your will over matter, while nearly EVERYONE can will the subtle energy that is all around and make any forms just out of thought. You make psychic shields with that for example.
Problem is that only very few see that energy.


PS: Lookfar, I really missed the welcome forum 8-[.

[element]

The most beautiful sky is the one you're under - right now!

Good one. ;)

Sky here is nice at the moment but some places in the world can blow you away comparing it with the Netherlands, trust me.:D

[phildee3]

Well it's a pretty rare ability ...to impose your will over matter,



Not really.
That's what western "civilisation" is all about, isn't it?
The military-industrial complex.
Engineering rather than bricolage.

[phildee3]

some places in the world can blow you away comparing it with the Netherlands, trust me.



Why should I?
You're not there to witness it!

Who told you?
The illuminati controlled, fearmongering media, that's who!



Sky here is nice at the moment



I rest my case.

[element]

Why should I?
You're not there to witness it!

Who told you?
The illuminati controlled, fearmongering media, that's who!



I rest my case.

No, I've seen it myself. Been there twice. You can compare the blue sky in Egypt to the mud,grey one here and you'll understand. Or should I be unhappy for the gift of seeing colours?

Your take on the illuminati controlled blablabla, is just another conception in your mind to judge all the problems on that are in the world. WE OURSELVES are the problem together in the world.

Why do people go to places all over the world? You may say media, but thank god there is the media, otherwise we had no idea how the world looked. See it positive, we can see on tv and pc other places of the planet, other people, and we can go there if we want. See it positive!!

[xpleet]

Not really.
That's what western "civilisation" is all about, isn't it?
The military-industrial complex.
Engineering rather than bricolage.

aw cmon ;)

you know what I mean... kinesis

[phildee3]

No, I've seen it myself. Been there twice.



That was then.
Now is now.
It was perfect then - where you were.
Its perfect now - where you are.



should I be unhappy for the gift of seeing colours?



Absolutely not!



Why do people go to places all over the world?



Because they're conditioned to be dissatisfied with where they are now.

You're where you are now, you're not in Egypt.

Enjoy what you have now, as you enjoyed what you had then.

[element]

Funny you take out certain questions I have answered myself. :rolleyes:
On your Illuminati delusion you don't answer..

Enjoy what you have now, as you enjoyed what you had then.

Indeed.;)

[phildee3]

aw cmon ;)

you know what I mean... kinesis

Kinesis happens all the time.
The world is dynamic, always in motion,
and that motion creates other motion, -
without imposition (ie conscious intent).

[phildee3]

On your Illuminati delusion you don't answer..



What's the question?

[element]

What's the question?

Actually, there is none about it. Cause it's an illusion to blame humanity ignorance and mistakes on.

First its the devil and the demons!
Then its the secret society!
Then its the ALIENS!

As long as humanity blames their ignorances and mistakes on others, it will never learn.

The question to you: What's next?

[phildee3]

Actually, there is none about it. Cause it's an illusion to blame humanity ignorance and mistakes on.

First its the devil and the demons!
Then its the secret society!
Then its the ALIENS!

As long as humanity blames their ignorances and mistakes on others, it will never learn.



Sorry. This makes no sense to me.



The question to you: What's next?



Can't say.
This whole discussion is about being here now, as far as I'm concerned.

Going back to where I mentioned the "illuminati," it was in the context of the control of the media to create fear and dissatisfaction, etc.
Why is the news all about bad weather (and bad everything)?

Those who control the media know very well that whatever you focus on, you perpetuate.

[xpleet]

keep it on topic pls

[phildee3]

keep it on topic pls



totally is.

[somethinganonymous]

Well,back on topic.Be it an existing knowledge hidden in the subconscious, of which clouds will disappear in five minutes or the use of your eyes as a vacum to suck in the orgone energy of the clouds, I can not say. Either way, the clouds that I focus my intent on DO disappear in a short time. And after having busted a cloud or two, the ability seems to weaken to the point that trying to bust cloud number three will not work in the timeframe of 5-10 minutes.

Just yesterday I thought I would give this cloudbusting experiment another go. The sky was mostly clouded, a small breeze, nothing moving the clouds at any noticable speed. The clouds in the sky were mostly continuous big ones, blocking the sun. Where I looked upon the sky there were clouds forming a huge circle, with a large blue-sky space between the big clouds. This blue-sky spot in the middle was occupied by one (1) lonely cloud, sitting idle like an invitation for the experiment. I focused my intent, looking at the lonely cloud in the middle of the cloud-circle. With my eyes, I started noticing small spots of light, as though rain was falling, being hit by the sun at the same time. (sort of like when you "see stars" before fainting)

After only a few minutes, the cloud I had focused my intent on had completely dispersed, while the surrounding cloud-circle remained mostly the same. But now, there were no more clouds in the circle, only blue sky. I have now, after having tried this cludbusting experiment a few times, concluded that it does indeed work. Explain it, I can't though... The feeling in my eyes when looking and focusing my intent on the selected cloud is that of when you're looking at a 2d image, trying to see the 3d image hidden in the shapes. You know, one of those images of flowers and such, containing a "hidden" 3d image of a dolphin or whatever...Lol... That is how my eyes feel when I bust the clouds...

Now, my interest for orgone energy has increased (from being an unknown source of energy) to the point where I would like some more information on the subject. Does anybody here have any links to threads or sites about orgone energy, what it is, how to obtain it (apart from looking at clouds that is), what qualities it contains and how it can be manipulated or applied to practical application? Thanks.

[lookfar]

Well,back on topic.Be it an existing knowledge hidden in the subconscious, of which clouds will disappear in five minutes or the use of your eyes as a vacum to suck in the orgone energy of the clouds, I can not say. Either way, the clouds that I focus my intent on DO disappear in a short time. And after having busted a cloud or two, the ability seems to weaken to the point that trying to bust cloud number three will not work in the timeframe of 5-10 minutes.

Just yesterday I thought I would give this cloudbusting experiment another go. The sky was mostly clouded, a small breeze, nothing moving the clouds at any noticable speed. The clouds in the sky were mostly continuous big ones, blocking the sun. Where I looked upon the sky there were clouds forming a huge circle, with a large blue-sky space between the big clouds. This blue-sky spot in the middle was occupied by one (1) lonely cloud, sitting idle like an invitation for the experiment. I focused my intent, looking at the lonely cloud in the middle of the cloud-circle. With my eyes, I started noticing small spots of light, as though rain was falling, being hit by the sun at the same time. (sort of like when you "see stars" before fainting)

After only a few minutes, the cloud I had focused my intent on had completely dispersed, while the surrounding cloud-circle remained mostly the same. But now, there were no more clouds in the circle, only blue sky. I have now, after having tried this cludbusting experiment a few times, concluded that it does indeed work. Explain it, I can't though... The feeling in my eyes when looking and focusing my intent on the selected cloud is that of when you're looking at a 2d image, trying to see the 3d image hidden in the shapes. You know, one of those images of flowers and such, containing a "hidden" 3d image of a dolphin or whatever...Lol... That is how my eyes feel when I bust the clouds...

Now, my interest for orgone energy has increased (from being an unknown source of energy) to the point where I would like some more information on the subject. Does anybody here have any links to threads or sites about orgone energy, what it is, how to obtain it (apart from looking at clouds that is), what qualities it contains and how it can be manipulated or applied to practical application? Thanks.

Hi somethinganonymous

Great post there, well explained & I'm glad you've experienced this for yourself too:)

I know what you mean about that feeling from between your eyes when you're doing it, it's almost like you can feel the energy from your mind being forced out of your head through your third eye, it feels pretty powerful to me & it still amazes me whenever you cloudbust:D

If you've not looked into Wilhelm Reich before, then I'd suggest that'd be a good place to start on looking into orgone energy:

http://www.wilhelmreichmuseum.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

http://inventors.about.com/od/qrstartinventors/a/orgone.htm?rd=1

[xpleet]

Well tonight i dreamed about doing :rolleyes:

I'll try at the next best opportunity when I get to see a clear sky mixed with cumuli.

[xpleet]

Well i tried a bit but my more or less severe problem is that as soon as I focus on that cloud and I focus my eye on it too it will disappear right on my eyes (illusion). And well..it didn't work :cool: atleast not in 5-10 seconds lol


A cloudless sky is much more beauty.

[phildee3]

A cloudless sky is much more beauty.



Maybe for you.
Not for me.

[xpleet]

Maybe for you.
Not for me.

uhm well clouds give me a sense of darkness and enclosement and not seeing very far ( awareness ).

What do you like at clouds :confused:

[xpleet]

PS:


Do NOT try to mess with clouds that look especially circular, extraordinary pipe-like shaped or any clouds moving in another than wind direction.

[phildee3]

What do you like at clouds :confused:



Their infinite variability.

They levitate.

The way they move.

The formations.

The way they suggest harmony with the matrix within which they roll and churn. I can see music in their form.

I can sit and watch them for hours. Like people stare into the flames of a wood fire, or watch a river swooshing over rocks and boulders.

[somethinganonymous]

Well i tried a bit but my more or less severe problem is that as soon as I focus on that cloud and I focus my eye on it too it will disappear right on my eyes (illusion). And well..it didn't work :cool: atleast not in 5-10 seconds lol


A cloudless sky is much more beauty.


Yes they do... Just keep looking at the cloud (even if you can't see it, focusing your mind,) for 5 minutes or so, then it will be all gone...

[xpleet]

Yes they do... Just keep looking at the cloud (even if you can't see it, focusing your mind,) for 5 minutes or so, then it will be all gone...

but for that long I could be thinking that it was naturally right?

And how big clouds can I bust?


Maybe I can help cleansing my area of chemtrails a bit if this works.

[somethinganonymous]

but for that long I could be thinking that it was naturally right?

And how big clouds can I bust?


Maybe I can help cleansing my area of chemtrails a bit if this works.

as far as I know (heard that is) you cannot bust chemtrail "clouds".

As to the size I dunno, I haven't yet met my match:)

[belfast atheist]

for years(long before i heard of icke)during hot days, i sunbathed wearing shades. i would look up pick a small wisp off cloud and make it vanish. ive thought nothing off this putting it down to coincidence. cant wait til summer now. btw during a really windy day in the early 80's my friends and me were playing cloud shapes when we noticed a cloud going the oppisite way from the others, it was amazing to see. ufo anyone???

[tokz1k]

Hey, whoevers going to Brixton the year, we should all concentrate on the biggest cloud together and see if we can get rid of it. If its raining we can clear a hole above us and stop it from raining.

[xpleet]

for years(long before i heard of icke)during hot days, i sunbathed wearing shades. i would look up pick a small wisp off cloud and make it vanish. ive thought nothing off this putting it down to coincidence. cant wait til summer now. btw during a really windy day in the early 80's my friends and me were playing cloud shapes when we noticed a cloud going the oppisite way from the others, it was amazing to see. ufo anyone???

yeah. They do hide in self created clouds, fly faster and in other directions than other clouds.

How did it look like?

[majicdragon]

So are you going to try and film a cloud removal? The question was asked and ignored.

[lookfar]

So are you going to try and film a cloud removal? The question was asked and ignored.

Hi majicdragon:)

There's some video footage that was posted earlier in this thread here, hope this helps:)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=316009&postcount=61

[somethinganonymous]

So are you going to try and film a cloud removal? The question was asked and ignored.

it might have something to do with the work required...i.e. get a camera, position the camera, shoot the film, upload it to the computer, compress the file, upload it to the internet, post a link on david icke forum... while you could just go outside, pick a cloud and bust it in five minutes...

[xpleet]

Today I have tried using willpower over clouds so to say.

I'm still not sure how much if at all I affected anything in the sky but the clouds I focused on would tear appart, then lose contras and dissipate.
I do not know enough about cloud dynamics to say wether it was me doing that or not.
The first cloud I was focussing on was relative small and low (about 300m). It was more like a cloudbed. I focused on a particular one which would tear appart the whole "cloudbed" and then disippate. It looked like I caused more to vanish than just the little spot I was focussing on.

Then I took a relative big one (full blown cumulus about 2,5x size of the suns radius) and it was connected to the big cloud formation like a peninsula. I thoughtsaid "i will slice you in half" and after about 5 min the cloud was disconnected to the cloud formation. I then wanted it to vanish but I could only see that it tore appart greatly and dramatically lowered in contrast. I couldn't make it dissipate.


Certainly I can make not much happen in 10-10 seconds so I don't really have a solid proof for myself.

If all works out well I will plan to destroy chemtrails.

[somethinganonymous]

Today I have tried using willpower over clouds so to say.

I'm still not sure how much if at all I affected anything in the sky but the clouds I focused on would tear appart, then lose contras and dissipate.
I do not know enough about cloud dynamics to say wether it was me doing that or not.
The first cloud I was focussing on was relative small and low (about 300m). It was more like a cloudbed. I focused on a particular one which would tear appart the whole "cloudbed" and then disippate. It looked like I caused more to vanish than just the little spot I was focussing on.

Then I took a relative big one (full blown cumulus about 2,5x size of the suns radius) and it was connected to the big cloud formation like a peninsula. I thoughtsaid "i will slice you in half" and after about 5 min the cloud was disconnected to the cloud formation. I then wanted it to vanish but I could only see that it tore appart greatly and dramatically lowered in contrast. I couldn't make it dissipate.


Certainly I can make not much happen in 10-10 seconds so I don't really have a solid proof for myself.

If all works out well I will plan to destroy chemtrails.

have read previously in the thread that "it" doesn't work on chemtrails

[lookfar]

Today I have tried using willpower over clouds so to say.

I'm still not sure how much if at all I affected anything in the sky but the clouds I focused on would tear appart, then lose contras and dissipate.
I do not know enough about cloud dynamics to say wether it was me doing that or not.
The first cloud I was focussing on was relative small and low (about 300m). It was more like a cloudbed. I focused on a particular one which would tear appart the whole "cloudbed" and then disippate. It looked like I caused more to vanish than just the little spot I was focussing on.

Then I took a relative big one (full blown cumulus about 2,5x size of the suns radius) and it was connected to the big cloud formation like a peninsula. I thoughtsaid "i will slice you in half" and after about 5 min the cloud was disconnected to the cloud formation. I then wanted it to vanish but I could only see that it tore appart greatly and dramatically lowered in contrast. I couldn't make it dissipate.

Certainly I can make not much happen in 10-10 seconds so I don't really have a solid proof for myself.

If all works out well I will plan to destroy chemtrails.

Ah nice one xpleet, sounds like you accomplished it there to me!!:D I still have occasional doubts (or it still amazes me is more like it) & I've done it loads of times already.

My son & I have tried busting a chemmie before & it did work on small part of it, but couldn't get rid of the whole thing unfortunately - would be nice if we could though eh:D

[spikedimitri]

Hey. Just tried this today. Can't believe it works. I tried it on a little cloud first and cleared in a couple of minutes. Then just to see if it was a coincidence I tried it again on a larger cloud, and again it cleared after a couple of minutes (although my vision went a bit blurry from staring at it :o). I wonder how powerful this would be for a big enough group to influence the weather?

[lookfar]

Hey. Just tried this today. Can't believe it works. I tried it on a little cloud first and cleared in a couple of minutes. Then just to see if it was a coincidence I tried it again on a larger cloud, and again it cleared after a couple of minutes (although my vision went a bit blurry from staring at it :o). I wonder how powerful this would be for a big enough group to influence the weather?

Aha & another one today, that's excellent spikedimitri!!:D Well done for having a go & succeeding - it is quite amazing when you do it isn't it & at first you do doubt yourself! It can effect your eyes at times when you're concentrating so hard. Did you feel the energy coming from the centre of your forehead too?

Talking of large groups doing this, I'm sure it's been done all over the world to a certain extent throughout history. The Native Americans have the Rain Dance & other ceremonies where the collective thoughts & intentions of the group are used for a sole purpose (as well as other aspects), but it's all based on the same principles I'm sure:)

It's great to see more & more people are giving this a go & realising the true power that we have within ourselves:cool: This may seem like small scale at the mo, but I believe if we continue to use it & practice, we can train ourselves to have far more influence upon things in general....

[spikedimitri]

Yeah. It was weird. I was just focusing on it, kinda like having a line through the back of from neck through the centre of my forehead and going direct into the cloud.
Actually I think it was more about not conciously thinking about it. At one point I started conciously trying to force one part of the bigger cloud to clear, and didn't have a much success. Until I "zoomed out" again and saw that a massive chunk of cloud had dissapated, but I hadn't realised because it was in my peripherary vision.

[belfast atheist]

yeah. They do hide in self created clouds, fly faster and in other directions than other clouds.

How did it look like?

oval shaped cloud, remember being pissed off no one believed me when i told them about it. doh:eek:

[antischaap]

i first tried this after i saw a vid on youtube and thought this is cool but probably edited
so i tried an succeeded but forgot about it

today i was with my son and said to him come on we will let this cloud dissapear he laughed and we tried it and it worked

so later at home on the balcony we let some more clouds dissapear al succesfull until he said i want them al to go daddy
and i said well ... thats a little bit to much but he said i want all

so we forgot about it went inside and build some paper planes
later we went outside to throw them
when we where on the balcony we both where in awe because the whole view was clear of clouds
and there where a lot of theme before
it was totally mindblowing

i saw some reasponse here where they say you have to focus on them the whole time but we just say aloud or in mind go away cloud and watch the other way and they are gone in a few moments depends on size

my question is clouds are the same energy as the rest of universe so if we have control of them we should have control over all things right??

[disorder2k8]

I cant make clouds disappear per se, but I do seem to be able to get light shining onto me(through clouds) when I think about positive things. And sometimes the light seems to follow me around (probably coincidence hehe)

Of course if they are spraying the sky, its a bit difficult,

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/visualrayrevisited03apr07.shtml

I always thought organite intensified actual human intent, more than it had any of its own power. Maybe that is the indicator.

I believe Organite is a battery of your intention energy and only what goes in comes out.

[antischaap]

http://video.google.nl/videosearch?q=thomas+campbell&www_google_domain=www.google.nl&hl=nl&emb=0&aq=0&oq=thomas+ca#q=thomas+campbell+cloud&hl=nl&emb=0

i didnt post it so dont mind the title
but this vid made me try it because i didnt believe it and thought it was an edit

but it works

today i have been doing this with my son all day

and forget all the so called tricks and things like orgon energy just pick a cloud and say a loud or in mind

dissapear cloud dissapear maybe make a gesture or what ever u like.

then you can keep focussing but i prefer to just look away for a while and they will dissapear qiuckly depends on size (or maybe thats just because i think it will take longer ) :)

[deca]

Hi ripe4change - Stewart Swerdlow wrote about that in his books, he also talks about messages in the clouds meant for him and even had witnesses with him when that happened. Have you experienced that as well? Anyway I think he would be the person to give you more info on that.

I have , think its a mild humiliation electronically induced....plus they do seem to chemie places I go....not that I am personally important them tweaking their tech or trying to find counter measures.....is what I personal believe
unless they have on some religious mind fuck /alien mind fuck/other then it gets weird


If any remembered the beyond knowledge in Liverpool a few years ago as so I got there they lied to chemies straight above the place then there was a thunderstorm as tarson spoke plus I get nodding of as I was get zapped

[deca]

don`t clouds just blow away natural or evaporate :confused:if you stare at the sky long enough they will change and move might even seem to disapear:confused:

ever watched Greggory girl?
http://wifflelevertofull.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/gregorysgirl.jpg

[pegcityevolve]

This happens every time I do LSD or mushrooms. Once I start to peak - that crystal clear perception and thought - the sky will be completely clear, or the night sky will be clear, and the stars will be more vibrant than ever. Have also found that even some meditation will clear the skies up for me.

[armoured_amazon]

I have done it many times. I have read one explanation here:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/visualrayrevisited03apr07.shtml (http://http://educate-yourself.org/cn/visualrayrevisited03apr07.shtml)


Does anyone else have any knowledge or experience of this to share?

Interesting. I have tried, and appeared to, make a cloud dissipate too. I couldn't believe it... however I put it down to co-incidence and by no means can I do it at will... if at all.

I thought it may be coincindental at first. However I have been able to do this at will to whatever cloud I select, and the surrounding clouds remain.

Me too. Strangely, I stopped doing all that stuff about 5 years ago...dunno why. If I am still able to do it, it would be prudent to do so. :)

[deca]

http://www.ehow.com/how_5074146_make-cloud-disappear-mind.html

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This is a fun activity for kids. It is a good way to teach kids about the science of clouds while making magical. Of course you can’t make a cloud disappear with ones own mind (or can you?) but this method has proven to work almost every time.


Identify and single out a small cloud cluster. Smaller the better but this works on almost any size cloud.
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Step 2

Make sure everyone knows which cloud you plan on making disappear…or make sure the child who is going to make it disappear knows which cloud to work on.
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Step 3

Once the cloud has been established then teach the method to make it disappear. There are several methods but what we use is the Eraser method. Focus on the cloud and in your mind imagine taking an eraser or cloth and rubbing the cloud. Or imagine taking a knife and slicing it up over and over again.
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Step 4

Continue until you make the cloud completely vanish! It will eventually disappear in abut 30-60 seconds depending on size.


When working with kids, add facts about the process of evaporation, the forming of clouds and/or types of clouds. etc..


:D some of you make me laugh
http://solreka.com/blog/wp-content/how_to_telekinesis.jpg

I have mastered the might evaporating cloud
next it will be the might spoon bending!!!!
my powers are endless

[thirdwave]

Are you able to videotape yourself doing this and put it on youtube?

this is the big thing though...

If this is true, then what we are made to look at is the discovery's on Quantum Physics ... where our perception determines effect.

Now, it is quite a well know scenario that people can see a UFO, they go to grab a camera and its gone... likewise with many paranormal things...

If you forget about time... and think if you were to film an event, then that is possibly creating effect, because it is simply not just the persons own observation of what is going on.

there for filming the cloud move might prevent it from moving...

This is why this level of science is so hard for people to understand as you cant work it out and find solid results within the 5 sense spectrum people treasure so much.

The scene in star wars comes to mind, where Yoda is teaching Luke the force in the swamp and Luke cant lift the stone with his mind, then Yoda lifts the ship out of the swamp with his mind and Luke says "I cant believe it" .. and Yoda says "And this is why you fail" ...
or something like that..

[thirdwave]

http://www.ehow.com/how_5074146_make-cloud-disappear-mind.html



:D some of you make me laugh
http://solreka.com/blog/wp-content/how_to_telekinesis.jpg

I have mastered the might evaporating cloud
next it will be the might spoon bending!!!!
my powers are endless

I agree there are some here who do seem to go too far with things sometimes.. which is easy to do once you find out the endless possibilities in this inverse...

Some how I don't think you find it funny, you are the ultimate sceptic and most sceptics are driven mostly out of fear of eventually having to realise there is so much more to the universe than humans perceive...

None of your theories are ..

a, any more tangible than the ones you mock..

or b, more logical.

Our eyes do not see all that's there, they only see what they are equipped to see... Our brains do not perceive all that is there, they only perceive what they are equipped to perceive...

if you cancel out possibilities based on our own reality spectrum then you are not searching for discovery, but closure.

Simple as that.

[deca]

this is the big thing though...

If this is true, then what we are made to look at is the discovery's on Quantum Physics ... where our perception determines effect.

Now, it is quite a well know scenario that people can see a UFO, they go to grab a camera and its gone... likewise with many paranormal things...

If you forget about time... and think if you were to film an event, then that is possibly creating effect, because it is simply not just the persons own observation of what is going on.

there for filming the cloud move might prevent it from moving...

This is why this level of science is so hard for people to understand as you cant work it out and find solid results within the 5 sense spectrum people treasure so much.

The scene in star wars comes to mind, where Yoda is teaching Luke the force in the swamp and Luke cant lift the stone with his mind, then Yoda lifts the ship out of the swamp with his mind and Luke says "I cant believe it" .. and Yoda says "And this is why you fail" ...
or something like that..

I tested this out this morning ....stair at three clouds and they disappeared, it throw me at first....but than you look at the small clouds anyway and the will natural evaporate/dissipate

http://www.theweatherprediction.com/habyhints/184/
Clouds are composed of liquid suspended water droplets in about a 100% RH environment. The three primary ways that clouds dissipate is by (1) the temperature increasing, (2) the cloud mixing with drier air, or (3) the air sinking within the cloud. When the temperature increases, the air has a higher capacity to evaporate liquid water. When a cloud's temperature increases, evaporation occurs and reduces the liquid moisture content of the cloud. A cloud can be warmed by solar radiation and longwave emission from the earth's surface. Daytime heating increases the capacity of the air to evaporate liquid water. Low clouds such as fog and low stratus are often dissipated due to daytime heating, especially if a cap exists aloft. Daytime heating's power to erode clouds depends on the sun angle (depends on season), the cloud thickness and the overall stability and lift present in the troposphere.

A cloud does not remain perfectly adiabatic. Some environmental air does mix into the cloud mass. If a cloud is no longer developing and not adding additional condensational moisture, the drier environmental air will gradually erode the cloud. Instead of having a sharp very defined appearance, after mixing with environmental air the cloud will look wispy with edges that are not well defined. This process is called entrainment. During entrainment, drier air incorporates itself into the cloud and induces evaporation.

When air sinks, it warms adiabatically. Again, warming will induce evaporation and erosion of the cloud. This can occur when dynamic sinking mechanisms instigate or increase over a cloud or cloud field. Dynamic sinking mechanisms include low level CAA, NVA, low level divergence, and downslope flow.

Often, more than one of these processes mentioned above occurs simultaneously to erode a cloud or cloud deck.
all you are doing is looking at clouds that already in the process of dissipating !!!!!!!

Thirdwave do you want own a seagull only £1.............give me a pound and I point out which ones yours:D:rolleyes:

[thirdwave]

I tested this out this morning ....stair at three clouds and they disappeared, it throw me at first....but than you look at the small clouds anyway and the will natural evaporate/dissipate

http://www.theweatherprediction.com/habyhints/184/

naa its not the same thing mate, and it is not as simple as just galcing up there and doing it while on the way to the shops...

it is normally about capturing a state of mind ...a moment...
most pot heads will find them selves doing it, but of course that stuff that's illegal, is just for whacks who don't think properly :)

Most of your research is from people that are so blatantly there to maintain the knowledge threshold over the people...

they have always been 20-30 years ahead and will always try to be ahead with science and technology...

I have experimented with different drugs and been there and seen reality in a totally different way... and this is why most of these drugs are made illegal.

in your mind set, our brains are who we are, time is a thing of nature, and the universe is a separate thing... yet an atom is simply a part of the energy in the universe. made of the same stuff... and time is simply something we have created to help us measure reality..

you could say that the man is moving the clouds... or you could say that he is predicting where the clouds will go..... either way its about a conciousness that is not of the same when getting the train to work and running 10 mins late.

[mane]

Cool thread. I call the phenomena eye tricks. I'm pretty sure there is a Hindu tradition of meditation that involves the same principle. Some examples of my capacity include making my self disappear in the mirror-- fading in and out certain areas, making bookshelves disappear, making toilet water and the bowl itself lose definition until it is a white plane-- which is essentially what's happening in any event of an eye trick, except that the plane can be whatever you focus on. I usually start teaching people by looking at the corner of a room and merging the walls as one plane, but clouds are a good approach as well. I think that this principle can be applied to any of one's senses, and ultimately, as one collapses quantum states into a particle form in observation, one is able to shift the continuum in controlling their perception as such-- what are the possibilities? It is a form of traveling through the worm hole, which is characterized by motionless motion-- spacetime shifting within the Now as to perception/vantage, where the observer exists within void, immersed in the music of duality, gazing upon one's self, as the universe looks itself in the eye.

[biblegirl]

the mention of taking in orgone through the eyes and body was interesting *subscribe*

[lucky884]

http://s948.photobucket.com/albums/ad330/dlc285/?action=view&current=d98203be.pbw

I saw this cloud disappear the other day. I'm not sure it was me and my two holy hand grenades that caused it. Does anyone here claim responsibility!:D

[j_shell]

What is Orgone energy? is there anything else on earth that has it? what about water?

[phildee3]

What is Orgone energy? is there anything else on earth that has it? what about water?



Flowing water has orgone flowing in the opposite direction (Reich).

I think it is what propels the trout upstream (as discovered by Victor Schauberger).

PS
DOR (deadly orgone energy) flows downstream.


OR is life-force energy and has the effect of levity.
DOR is death and is related to gravity.

[lucky884]

What is Orgone energy? is there anything else on earth that has it? what about water?

Biblegirl has started a Q and A thread here http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71354

and another excellent thread here http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62867

[antischaap]

last on i post was wrong link

see here for cloud dissapear

forget about the title of the vid

http://espanol.video.yahoo.com/watch/4042378/10926916

[deca]

Just stop this psychological bullshit

Fucking with peoples sense of reality then fulling there head up with hocus pocus mumba jumba


Get these so called experts and so called friendly people on here that talk to all these 4th demension , aliens ect to prove it before they fill your head up with crap And Psychic ability's get them to prove it , don`t believe it because they say it , there's plenty on here there wolves in sheep clothing

I not saying theres not with people that don`t have psyhic ability but they will have a track record

You are getting Subverted

Don`t believe me how many off you tried the make the "cloud disappear" trick
what if that was used as proof of an afterlife or ascension, reality as an illusion etc.....
And you need to escape your body ...i.e commit suicide


Think about it you read all this stuff for a few weeks months then you get seemingly demonstration don`t be suckers

And don`t take the lack of proof or science to be evidence or prove :confused:

This site is differently being physiologically got at and what David Icke and others believe being twisted on here

Watch out for the clever long posts where they push opinion, seem intelligent and experience but never really prove or show any evidence just fancy words and claims

[thirdwave]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc