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Anders Lindman
11-08-2011, 06:58 PM
Do you know what unconditional inner peace is? It's the healthy peace that is our natural condition. Unconditional means that the peace doesn't depend on external or internal circumstances. Unconditional inner peace increases our health, our energy and mental, emotional and physical capacity.
Our unconditional inner peace is increased by removing fear and confusion.
Changing the direction of the mind away from fear and confusion towards inner peace can be done by practicing mental and emotional control. By retraining our minds fear and confusion are transformed into inner peace.
:cool:
Anders Lindman
11-08-2011, 07:03 PM
At first the inner peace will not be unconditional. Because our minds are trained to operate on fear and confusion. So in the beginning the mind has to be trained to operate in a new way, which means the training is conditional although the result is unconditional. When the training is complete the inner peace is effortless, but to get there may require some effort.
scottishryan
11-08-2011, 07:05 PM
What an excellent post and information :)
Small things done consistently will result in massive changes!! Taking the first step is key!!
Anders Lindman
11-08-2011, 07:11 PM
What an excellent post and information :)
Small things done consistently will result in massive changes!! Taking the first step is key!!
Yes! The change can be done step by step. Slowly and with only little progress at first until a momentum builds up which will accelerate the progress. So even if we have zero inner peace to start with it's enough to take tiny steps in the beginning.
scottishryan
11-08-2011, 07:15 PM
Yes! The change can be done step by step. Slowly and with only little progress at first until a momentum builds up which will accelerate the progress. So even if we have zero inner peace to start with it's enough to take tiny steps in the beginning.
I find this approach has revolutionised my attitude to old habits and ways of thinking. If I can just start, do a little and then let that momentum build and build! I am astonished when I then look back on the path I have travelled!!
Still have loads of work to do though personally but its moving! :)
Anders Lindman
11-08-2011, 08:10 PM
One interesting thing with unconditional peace is that it is independent of conditional peace as well as worry. Imagine a scale going from maximum worry to maximum conditional peace. Unconditional peace is not on that scale! Instead, unconditional peace is an additional dimension. This can be illustrated by the triangle in the picture below. Worry and conditional peace are on the horizontal scale while unconditional peace is on the vertical scale:
http://i54.tinypic.com/jrb7u9.jpg
amillionmiles
11-08-2011, 08:34 PM
Great post, I needed to hear that today
Anders Lindman
11-08-2011, 09:26 PM
Unconditional peace is of course not dependent on religion, but there is an interesting mentioning of something similar in the Bible:
"Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus." -- Philippians 4:4-7
The peace that transcends all understanding. Is that the same as unconditional peace? At least it is very similar. Unconditional peace is not dependent on understanding. We can understand what unconditional peace is, and that peace can perhaps be reached by understanding what it is, but the peace itself is not dependent on the understanding of it.
Another passage from the quote: Do not be anxious about anything.
The understanding of the unconditional peace makes it possible to detach from the grip of anxiety.
The passage "Present your requests to God" could be interpreted from an agnostic viewpoint as meaning an outsourcing of one's requests to the power of the universe. Let's say that I don't have enough money. I can then either act out of worry and try to solve my problem that way, or I can move into unconditional peace and let that move be the way of how I deal with the situation. In the first way of dealing with the problem - out of worry - I will likely have to struggle, while in the other approach of moving into unconditional peace I let the universe come up with a solution that then will be presented to my mind effortlessly.
Anders Lindman
11-08-2011, 09:38 PM
An example of how unconditional peace transcends understanding is peace about the future. For there to be complete conditional peace about the future, the mind would have to know how to deal will all possible future situations! That would be an immensely burdensome task if it even would be possible. With unconditional peace on the other hand there is no need to understand anything about the future. In that sense unconditional peace transcends understanding.
Anders Lindman
11-08-2011, 10:32 PM
David Icke and others have talked about how we are consciousness which in turn is everything that is. That is true I think and it is related to unconditional peace. Infinite consciousness doesn't need to worry.
Carl Johan Calleman has described how humanity will move to a state of unity consciousness. I think that that is also true. Our ordinary consciousness at the moment is the ego/separation consciousness. We need to let go of that if we want to move into unconditional peace. And that's unity consciousness!
In unity consciousness there will still be the ability to experience separation of things of course. For example if I would reach unity consciousness then my personal money will still be separate from Mark Zuckerberg's money! :D BUT I would not be worried about my financial situation in the same way as in ego consciousness. Yes, my money is separate from other people's money but really everything is ONE unity movement and that is what is realized with unity consciousness. My true identity in unity consciousness is as a unique facet of the One/Everything. Not like the Borgs in Star Trek :eek::D but unity consciousness with preserved unique personal individuality.
Calleman talks about the Mayan end date as being October 28 this year. I guess he means that at least a seed of unity consciousness will start then. Could be possible! The process of evolution is definitely accelerating and Calleman's interpretation of the Mayan calendar is similar to Terence McKenna's Time Wave theory and even similar to Ray Kurzweil's singularity theory. Kurzweil talks about a singularity that will happen some decades into the future, but he has only taken the material/technological progress into consideration. When we look at evolution as a whole, then the singularity may in reality happen around 2012.
Anders Lindman
11-08-2011, 11:36 PM
Is unconditional peace something real that can be experienced in practice? A scientific method is to put forth a hypothesis in the form of a theory and then test that theory to see if it matches observed reality.
One theory is that unity consciousness is possible. On some level everything is connected so in theory a state of unity consciousness could be possible. The next part of the theory is that with unity consciousness comes unconditional peace. This is also something that can be possible since in unity consciousness there is the experience of being one with everything which should remove the total belief in anxiety and bring unconditional peace.
Ok, so that's the theory. The next step is to test the theory. To really test it, we have to do the test ourselves since we cannot really know unity consciousness unless we reach that state ourselves. So the test is the attempt to take a step from our current level of separation consciousness to a new state of unity consciousness. And then check if that also brings unconditional peace.
How to take the step from separation consciousness to unity consciousness? Here we can use the theory of unconditional peace. If we can achieve unconditional peace then it should mean that we also have reached unity consciousness since for true unconditional peace there cannot be any things or events separate from oneself to worry about.
In practice, then, taking the step towards unity consciousness means the detachment from the previous step of separation consciousness, which in turn means letting go of worry. So what to do with the worry? The answer is: drop it, drop it, drop it. :D
Anders Lindman
11-08-2011, 11:57 PM
Isn't worry necessary and useful? Yes, very possibly so, in SEPARATION CONSCIOUSNESS! It seems reasonable to assume that worry indeed serves a useful and necessary purpose in separation consciousness.
Is worry needed in UNITY consciousness? Yes, but in a different way. Imagine that you are playing a video game and are worrying about what next move to do. That kind of worry is entertainment. You can even worry about spending money in the video game even though the money is just something that isn't real and only a part of the game. The difference between unity consciousness and ordinary separation consciousness is that the worry isn't serious in unity consciousness.
lonestar
12-08-2011, 12:01 AM
this is nice and yes poco a poco.
Anders Lindman
12-08-2011, 12:51 AM
In the movie The Matrix they escaped from one state of separation consciousness into another reality that still was a state of separation consciousness.
Our current state of separation consciousness as humans can be seen as a form of Matrix. If so, then the unplugging from the real Matrix leads to unity consciousness, not to another separation consciousness as in the movies.
So the real red pill leads to unity consciousness.
Binatrix: A Matrix Parody TV commercial for Binaca - Red Pill Blue Pill Matrix Scene - YouTube
Joker meets the Oracle - YouTube
Matrix Runs on Windows XP - YouTube
:rolleyes::D
Accepting worry as being serious is the blue pill.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fECFzaUQnuI/SiZynacAaII/AAAAAAAAALM/jljdaImTvOY/s400/The+Matrix+Do+Not+Take+the+Blue+Pill+A.jpg
Anders Lindman
12-08-2011, 07:27 AM
J. Krishnamurti said: "The observer is the observed." That's a description of unity consciousness! In unity consciousness the observer is the observed because we then see everything as being a single unit. It's very simple.
Short video clips with Krishnamurti:
Discipline - YouTube
Meditation - YouTube
Living Without Conflict - YouTube
And here is the Dalai Lama talking about how we can't buy peace of mind at the supermarket:
Dalai Lama - How do we attain peace? • The Pandora Project - YouTube
equinoxboy
12-08-2011, 08:57 AM
Thank you.
Love and Light
Anders Lindman
12-08-2011, 11:05 AM
Brett Cook Dizney quoting Krishnamurti - YouTube
OSHO: Science and the Inner Journey - YouTube
Vernon Howard - Inner Power for Today [Part 1/3] - YouTube
Vernon Howard - Inner Power for Today [Part 2/3] - YouTube
Vernon Howard - Inner Power for Today [Part 3/3] - YouTube
Anders Lindman
12-08-2011, 03:46 PM
A powerful method for increasing inner peace is to use biofeedback with the mind as the instrument. I can observe the worry in me. That's VERY easy. :D And I know that I want to move from worry to inner peace. That's definitely more difficult. But instead of trying to block myself from the worry it now becomes a useful and valuable feedback signal. The mind then more easily accepts the worry and uses it to increase the inner peace.
Feedback control is commonly used in science and technology, such as:
Test Driving the Google Car - YouTube
lonestar
12-08-2011, 03:46 PM
Vernon Howard is a trip! lol :) you said: "The observer is the observed" can you help me with this a little more. thank you
Anders Lindman
12-08-2011, 04:40 PM
Vernon Howard is a trip! lol :) you said: "The observer is the observed" can you help me with this a little more. thank you
Yes, J. Krishnamurti often said that the observer is the observed. The observer is the mind. The mind observes not only what it can see but the other senses too like hearing, smell, taste and touch are observed by the mind. So the mind takes in all kinds of information via the brain and we become aware of all that in our consciousness. We are our mind and our mind is the observer.
The slightly trickier part is how the observed can be the same as the observer. It becomes easy when we look at it from the perspective of unity consciousness which I take as meaning consciousness being able to see how everything is interconnected into one reality, one unity.
We are not separate from what we observe. And since we are not separate from what we observe we ARE what we observe. The observer is the observed. If I observe Barack Obama, then my mind is the observer and Obama the observed. If the observer is the observed is then my mind Barack Obama? In ordinary separation consciousness Obama is of course separate from me BUT in unity consciousness, where everything is experienced as a single unity, a wholeness, then my mind and Obama are a part of the same wholeness which means the observer and the observed belong to the same one reality and therefore are one and the same.
Your Consciousness Creates Your Universe - YouTube
lonestar
12-08-2011, 05:08 PM
holy macaroni! lol i will focus on that this weekend at work. thanks :)
Anders Lindman
13-08-2011, 04:35 AM
Humanity has been controlled by fear and is still controlled a lot that way. The fastest way out of that situation is probably through increasing our inner peace. The more inner peace we have the less we can be controlled and/or manipulated by fear.
Anders Lindman
13-08-2011, 06:32 AM
If we have valid worry, then how to get unconditional inner peace? Will it really be possible or desirable to remove valid worry? Maybe not. Let's say that some worry is justified and useful to have remain in us. Can we still increase our unconditional peace? The answer is: yes! Because the unconditional peace is independent of the worry. However an increase of unconditional peace would probably reduce the worry even if the worry still would remain. So then the relationship is conditional in one direction: unconditional peace limits the total possible amount of worry in us.
Anders Lindman
13-08-2011, 06:55 AM
Money is very important but unity consciousness is more powerful than money. Maybe that's what Jesus Christ talked about when he said that we cannot have two masters. We can't have both Money and God as our master. My interpretation of having God as the master is to have the universe as the master and to have unity consciousness. With separation consciousness money will be our master.
Shouldn't we worry about money? I think we should worry as long as we remain in separation consciousness. And only expect the worry to disappear when we move into unity consciousness. And to move from separation consciousness to unity consciousness will likely take some time and cannot be done instantly, so we should expect the worry about money to remain in us and only gradually be reduced.
Anders Lindman
13-08-2011, 12:30 PM
Inner peace makes us more malleable, more pliable and therefore more readily susceptible to the dictates handled out to us by our supreme leaders; the custodians of the New World Order. We shall have order!!! Just kidding! :D
Inner peace enables inner power that flows from within. Unstoppable. Relentless. Inexorable power!!! It will crush the New World Order agenda in no time. :cool::D
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Anders Lindman
13-08-2011, 12:41 PM
You say: "I can't have inner peace because..." fill in the blank. Is that true? Are you ABSOLUTELY sure that you can't have inner peace?
The Work by Byron Katie:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Anders Lindman
13-08-2011, 05:40 PM
How to deal with time in relation to inner peace? Many spiritual teachers talk about living in the now. That's helpful except it doesn't deal with time fully.
A better and more complete way of dealing with time is to have a belief in a good future. With a belief in a good future the mind finds peace. But what if the future will NOT be good? What if an Orwellian New World Order will turn the world into a hideous place? Or what if we personally will get sick and die?!!! Or some other nasty destination like that. To that I say: what good will worry do?
Worrying about the future can make us take action to make things better. But is that the best way of dealing with the situation? No it isn't. It's better to deal with the situation without worry. And focusing on a good future removes the worry from the mind.
So tell your mind that WHATEVER will happen in the future will lead to something good, not only for other people but also for yourself! At first your mind will of course not listen because it is programmed to worry. And then you will have to repeat the message again and again: Tell it, tell it, tell it.
Anders Lindman
13-08-2011, 07:01 PM
Come now. Let's have some inner peace. Come no us. ;)
Anders Lindman
13-08-2011, 10:19 PM
We humans still behave like Orcs. Is it possible to have inner peace in a world filled with Orcs? Doesn't being peaceful mean being potential food for the Orcs?
It can be impossible to find true inner peace when living among Orcs. However, if we increase our own inner peace we no longer are Orcs ourselves and society will transform from the mad state it is in today to a peaceful society. Plus unity consciousness is no doubt much more powerful than the current Orc-like separation consciousness we humans have today. So the new society would swiftly shine away the Orc society.
Anders Lindman
13-08-2011, 10:42 PM
Does inner peace mean to be weak? Not weak, since inner peace will make us stronger mentally, emotionally and physically. The trick is how to achieve inner peace in a violent society. In the past that would have been difficult. As Ken Wilber said, if you did a peaceful demonstration in Nazi Germany you would have been run over by tanks. lol.
Today the situation is different, not least because of the Internet. A peaceful consciousness can spread very quickly today. Especially if the violent kind of consciousness would be seen more and more as something hopelessly outdated and unhip. Take the recent violence in London for example where many people started cleaning up the mess instead of joining the looting etc.
imagine21
14-08-2011, 01:13 AM
The message in this thread is amazing and profound.
Imagine we build our new world on this :)
Anders Lindman
14-08-2011, 02:26 AM
The message in this thread is amazing and profound.
Imagine we build our new world on this :)
The free will part is important. Being totally free to make personal choices, even choices to remain as we are!
One thing we can't choose however is the progress of technology. Because that's inevitable. :cool: Soon our technology will be so advanced that it becomes trillions of times smarter than us humans. Then probably the technology will be so smart that it will not interfere with humanity unless we want to (evil is a narrow and stupid kind of intelligence). And what if we WANT the technology to become a super police? So that it will be impossible to hurt others? That's a possible choice. And some people may choose that while others may choose to not have the technology protecting them.
Anders Lindman
14-08-2011, 06:25 AM
Everything to the ruling elite is a science of conflicts according to Alan Watt. That's probably close to the truth. They use people's tendency to fight to divide & conquer society. Even politics is a fight between (often two) different camps. Childish really.
Alan Watt - A Brief Debriefing on Reality [Full] - YouTube
So by increasing our inner peace the main weapon of the ruling elite is weakened.
Anders Lindman
14-08-2011, 06:53 AM
Hey! I just got an idea. Everything is not a conspiracy but maybe much more is manipulation than we first suspect. The first years after the 9/11 attacks I myself believed in the official story and I almost blindly believed everything mainstream media said. Today I'm pretty sure that media lies a lot, especially about big events.
So maybe we have been TRAINED to worry, like Pavlovian dogs!!! :eek: Even when, or because of, our minds would become more powerful when free from worry. Keeping people worried pushes them down and keeps them in line and makes them easy to manipulate.
Anders Lindman
14-08-2011, 08:28 AM
Shouldn't we worry about money? I think we should worry as long as we remain in separation consciousness.
I have changed my mind about this. Do we really HAVE to worry about money and other things? Maybe not. What if worry is just a conditioning, a habit that can be broken?
Anders Lindman
14-08-2011, 10:35 AM
I found an interesting new scientific field called positive psychology:
"Positive psychology is a recent branch of psychology whose purpose was summed up in 1998 by Martin Seligman and Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi: "We believe that a psychology of positive human functioning will arise that achieves a scientific understanding and effective interventions to build thriving in individuals, families, and communities."[1] Positive psychologists seek "to find and nurture genius and talent", and "to make normal life more fulfilling",[2] not simply to treat mental illness. The field is intended to complement, not to replace traditional psychology. I" -- Positive psychology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And here is a video presentation about positive psychology that looks interesting: http://www.ted.com/talks/martin_seligman_on_the_state_of_psychology.html
:cool:
Anders Lindman
14-08-2011, 11:19 AM
A good method for removing worry is to replace the worry with responsibility. I know, I know the word responsibility sounds boring and burdensome, but that's just a part of our conditioning! We have been programmed to try to avoid responsibility so that we more easily give our power away to 'authorities'.
We have deliberately been trained to think of responsibility as something dreadfully tedious. And at the same time we have been trained to worry. So we cling to worry and try to avoid responsibility.
Next time you are worrying about something, take responsibility! Do it, do it, do it. :D Even if you can't deal completely with that which you are worrying about it's enough that you take responsibility for it, that you own it, which brings the power into you and the increase of personal control removes the worry.
Anders Lindman
14-08-2011, 11:45 AM
Another thing about responsibility is that it should be EASY! Inner peace is an effortless state, so strife and struggle is the opposite of peace. The INTENT of replacing worry with responsibility is enough. Then let your actions flow in the direction of personal responsibility instead of personal worry.
Anders Lindman
14-08-2011, 11:55 AM
And yet another way of describing responsibility in relation to inner peace is to take personal responsibility without immediately struggling with the hows and the whats because the act of taking personal responsibility is enough to create an attractor for the power of the universe, new-agey speaking.
So visualize yourself as having your personal center of responsible automatically sucking in powers, energy and information from the entire universe.
If that sounds too silly, try an even sillier visualization, such as:
He-Man: Opening Theme - YouTube
:D
lonestar
14-08-2011, 10:08 PM
keep it coming!:) i spent the weekend thinking a lot about the "observer is the observed" i think i even felt it a little but then i got a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. lol :confused: and the Bruce Lee vid made my day!
Anders Lindman
15-08-2011, 05:10 AM
keep it coming!:) i spent the weekend thinking a lot about the "observer is the observed" i think i even felt it a little but then i got a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. lol :confused: and the Bruce Lee vid made my day!
Notice that when trying to feel more peace the feeling of worry can increase. That's good!!! Because that's an awakening of the tissue in the body. Numbness leads to deterioration and sickness, so increased feeling, even increased worry, is good.
Let the worry come up with full force so that it can be transformed into peace. Use the worry as fuel for increasing the feeling of peace.
irrepressible
15-08-2011, 05:18 AM
I've had a lifetime of worrying! I have been feeling more peaceful within myself recently.
akana
15-08-2011, 05:34 AM
Unconditional peace is of course not dependent on religion, but there is an interesting mentioning of something similar in the Bible:
"Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus." -- Philippians 4:4-7
The peace that transcends all understanding. Is that the same as unconditional peace? At least it is very similar. Unconditional peace is not dependent on understanding. We can understand what unconditional peace is, and that peace can perhaps be reached by understanding what it is, but the peace itself is not dependent on the understanding of it.
Another passage from the quote: Do not be anxious about anything.
The understanding of the unconditional peace makes it possible to detach from the grip of anxiety.
The passage "Present your requests to God" could be interpreted from an agnostic viewpoint as meaning an outsourcing of one's requests to the power of the universe. Let's say that I don't have enough money. I can then either act out of worry and try to solve my problem that way, or I can move into unconditional peace and let that move be the way of how I deal with the situation. In the first way of dealing with the problem - out of worry - I will likely have to struggle, while in the other approach of moving into unconditional peace I let the universe come up with a solution that then will be presented to my mind effortlessly.
Do not be anxious about anything, I need that
marisabia
15-08-2011, 06:39 AM
Great Bruce Lee video, I had no idea how profound his message was back in the day, until I discovered this gem. Check it out, the magic really starts at 4:45 this philosophy too me can apply to any artform or anything we create as that is what we are creators, with a little help, of course.
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=AW37eD5i24Q
Anders Lindman
15-08-2011, 12:40 PM
People are getting more and more stressed. Like the man at the airport who said: "Touch my junk and I'll kill you!" And several TSA officers had to hold the man because he was so agitated while another TSA officer squeezed his genitals. Just kidding! :D But the world is in need of more inner peace that's for sure.
Anders Lindman
15-08-2011, 05:06 PM
In this music video Britney Spears sings "never felt like this before":
Britney Spears - Till The World Ends - YouTube
And "take it to the next level". That's what unconditional peace is about. :) We only know conditional peace, not yet unconditional peace so have not felt that next level before. ;)
EDIT: And notice the date in the beginning of the video: December 21, 2012. That's the mainstream end date of the Mayan calendar. Calleman has calculated this date to October 28, 2011, and that could be the real date for the first seed of a unity consciousness (the next level, baby) but it's not until December 21, 2012 that unity consciousness hits the mainstream. With unity consciousness comes unconditional peace. And "till the world ends" means the end of separation consciousness, the darkness in the video until the dawn of unity consciousness represented in the video by the rising sun.
Anders Lindman
15-08-2011, 09:05 PM
A neat trick is to turn anger against worry. The next time you are angry check if there is worry in you and use the anger to attack the worry!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::cool:
Anders Lindman
15-08-2011, 09:27 PM
Another form of anger is the bitterness and hatred that is locked up in the body, such in the face muscles. Those muscle cramps can be relaxed to increase your inner peace.
akana
15-08-2011, 09:38 PM
Will drinking stop the inner peace? Do you drink?
Anders Lindman
15-08-2011, 09:45 PM
Will drinking stop the inner peace? Do you drink?
Drinking alcohol and taking drugs can temporary increase the inner peace. That's conditional inner peace. Unconditional inner peace is not dependent on alcohol or other drugs.
Anders Lindman
15-08-2011, 10:19 PM
Unconditional peace is like the sun. The sunshine can be blocked by clouds. The sunshine in itself is not dependent on the clouds, but our ability to have the shining on us is dependent on a clear sky.
Similarly our emotional blocks and negativity can block unconditional peace. And we need to put in some effort to clear away these blocks. Understanding the blocks and having the knowledge that the blocks can be removed is one way of increasing inner peace.
Clouds like hatred, worry and confusion can be removed. How? Inner unconditional peace can replace them! The peace shines away those inner clouds. You can FEEL it if you put attention to it. Feel the increase of inner peace shining away the hardened and ghastly feelings.
Anders Lindman
15-08-2011, 11:06 PM
Eckhart Tolle has an interesting concept he calls the pain body:
"This accumulated pain is a negative energy field that occupies your body and mind. If you look on it as an invisible entity in its own right, you are getting quite close to the truth. It's the emotional pain body. It has two modes of being: dormant and active.
The pain body wants to survive, just like every other entity in existence, and it can only survive if it gets you to unconsciously identify with it. It can then rise up, take you over, "become you," and live through you. It needs to get its "food" through you. It will feed on any experience that resonates with its own kind of energy, anything that creates further pain in whatever form: anger, destructiveness, hatred, grief, emotional drama, violence, and even illness."
As I see it the pain body is an unconscious attempt to break out of too much suppression, cramps and numbness. So the pain body is a natural effect. The problem is that when the root fear cramp is not resolved the pressure will build up again, and again and again and the pain body will erupt in anger, sorrow and other nasty states again and again.
The pain body can be transformed into inner peace. That creates a lasting effect instead of the pain body just becoming dormant again. How? When you have a pain body attack focus the energy into the intent of increasing inner peace and feel how the emotional (and even physical) pain is transformed into a feeling of freedom, release and peace.
Eckhart Tolle - Pain Body - YouTube
Tolle knows the pain body - YouTube
The concept of Painbody by Eckhart Tolle - YouTube
Anders Lindman
15-08-2011, 11:29 PM
I doubt that any spiritual teacher has real unity consciousness, but at least they have a lot of knowledge about such state and the state of our ordinary separation consciousness. Here is Adyashanti talking about some of that:
Adyashanti megvilágosodott mester - Az emberiség jövőbeli esélyeiről on Vimeo
Anders Lindman
16-08-2011, 12:02 AM
Shame and guilt can be big obstacles to inner peace. It's easy to turn feelings like that into peace by understanding that they stem from a lack of understanding! So instead of feeling shame it's possible to simply recognize the lack of understanding in oneself that was the cause of the shame or the guilt. If we REALLY would have had full understanding we would not have put ourselves in such situation. The trick here is that we don't need to know what the correct understanding is. It's enough to recognize that the root cause of the shame or the guilt is a lack of understanding.
Anders Lindman
16-08-2011, 12:06 AM
David Icke has a lot of good ideas about how to step out of our current state of consciousness and belief systems, including that of fear which means increasing inner peace. I found this video that looks interesting:
David Icke-The End of The Schism,Moving To Consciousness From Mind, Letting Go of fear.... - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChVBo_Mm4ns
Anders Lindman
16-08-2011, 01:11 AM
What David Icke calls Infinite Consciousness sounds like the same thing as unity consciousness. Realising that we are infinite consciousness will bring unconditional inner peace.
Fear blocks consciousness, just as David Icke says. Take personal relationships for example. They are often a source of a lot of fear. Especially in relation to strangers, because we don't know if they want to hurt us or take something from us.
In unity consciousness fear dissolves. There is no chance of other people wanting to kill or rob you in unity consciousness. Because unity consciousness is a vibration of all that is. Similar to what David Icke talks about except he even goes one step further and said that (as he experienced it in his Ayahuasca trip): If it vibrates it's an illusion. That's pretty accurate because vibrations require duality, but in the world of duality, unity consciousness can be seen as vibration of all that is.
Anders Lindman
16-08-2011, 03:38 PM
With separation consciousness we will age and die. With unity consciousness we are one with the universe, and will be able to live as long as the universe.
Technology is a part of evolution and the universe. Ray Kurzweil says that we will be able to live forever:
Transcendent Man Film Trailer - YouTube
Will the universe die a horrible heat death as many scientists say today? I don't think so. I think what will happen will be more like what Kevin Kelly calls extropy (which is stronger than the destructive force of entropy):
1a: Technology, Evolution, and God (Kevin Kelly and Ken Wilber - Exploring the Technium) - YouTube
This will give a solid foundation for inner peace.
Anders Lindman
16-08-2011, 03:56 PM
In separation consciousness time is always against us. In unity consciousness we are one with time! WOW!!!!!
I guess most people have at some times had trouble sleeping. That's a nasty feeling of non-peace in which time as the future seems worrying and the present moment unpleasant. Not good. Coming into alignment with time gives tremendous peace.
And most people experience stress, basically on a daily basis! That too often results in non-peace (one exception is positive stress that does not bring worry). Negative stress means being out of alignment with time.
Instead of seeing time as something to struggle against and/or as a limited resource, see time as an infinite and peaceful ocean of energy available to you! Sure, in practice time is often a limited resource, but seen from the bigger picture, think of time as unlimited and peaceful.
Anders Lindman
16-08-2011, 09:59 PM
Notice that sometimes you can handle your worry easily and other times the worry takes you over and becomes very difficult to control. At those severe pain body attacks of worry it's good to remember earlier moments when you could handle the worry easily. So that the worry doesn't totally consume you even when it's a huge worry.
And use almost anger to get control over the worry. That's a lot of struggle and effort but it can be useful because the inner peace can increase after that effort.
lonestar
16-08-2011, 11:26 PM
sorry i have some newbie questions and i know you probably get these same questions all the time and i appreceiate your help.:o
1. "If it vibrates it's an illusion. That's pretty accurate because vibrations require duality, but in the world of duality, unity consciousness can be seen as vibration of all that is." i need some more help with this please.
2. you know i worked at two festivals last weekend and interacted with hundreds of different people and saw thousands each day. whenever i had a chance i would look at someone and try the observer is the observed thingy and i felt nothing the first day but on the second day i saw a women (yes she was hot! lol) and i felt both the observing and the obsevered feeling. now after reading the thread today (thank you!) i kind of understand why i felt bad when if first felt it. it was a void feeling. it was like i lost some of me!:( So my second question is why do you think it only worked on one person? at the time my mind gave me an explanation of why but i forgot what it was.lol
Thanks!
Anders Lindman
17-08-2011, 02:44 AM
sorry i have some newbie questions and i know you probably get these same questions all the time and i appreceiate your help.:o
1. "If it vibrates it's an illusion. That's pretty accurate because vibrations require duality, but in the world of duality, unity consciousness can be seen as vibration of all that is." i need some more help with this please.
2. you know i worked at two festivals last weekend and interacted with hundreds of different people and saw thousands each day. whenever i had a chance i would look at someone and try the observer is the observed thingy and i felt nothing the first day but on the second day i saw a women (yes she was hot! lol) and i felt both the observing and the obsevered feeling. now after reading the thread today (thank you!) i kind of understand why i felt bad when if first felt it. it was a void feeling. it was like i lost some of me!:( So my second question is why do you think it only worked on one person? at the time my mind gave me an explanation of why but i forgot what it was.lol
Thanks!
I wouldn't call the world of form illusion, but the solidity of the world is an illusion sort of, because reality is only information (plus consciousness) I think. David Icke was told by the female voice about reality that if it vibrates it's an illusion. Think of reality as one unity. A vibration is a resonance between at least two points. One unity is one thing, not two. Like the spiritual Advaita teaching (advaita means "not two" in Sanskrit). So if reality is One and the world of form Maya, or illusion as David Icke's voice said, then it's only the world of form that can vibrate because in the world of form there are several points to make vibrations possible. The One and the Many. Consciousness is the no-thing that makes things appear. Since consciousness is not a thing, not an object, it cannot be counted and the closest description of consciousness is perhaps "not two".
The observer is the observed. An observer is a thing, an object. Since the observer is an object it belongs to the world of form, to Maya.
"Maya (Sanskrit माया māyāa[›]), in Indian religions, has multiple meanings, usually quoted as "illusion", centered on the fact that we do not experience the environment itself but rather a projection of it, created by us. Maya is the principal deity that manifests, perpetuates and governs the illusion and dream of duality in the phenomenal Universe." -- Maya (illusion) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The world of form appears in consciousness. The whole world of form. Think of everything you experience as being displayed on the screen of consciousness. All of your experiences. And think of all those experiences as one movie. Both the observer as an object and the observed are a part of that movie, your experiences. So when you describe a memory, you are describing a part of that movie. When you said you lost something from yourself it can only be a part of the illusion that was dropped. The truth can only be covered up, never lost.
marisabia
17-08-2011, 02:53 AM
Hope you don't mind if I use that last sentence, it really rung my bell, aww..those darn vibrations again:)
Anders Lindman
17-08-2011, 07:23 AM
New Age people often talk about raising our vibrational level or something like that. Evolution is an accelerating process so maybe they are correct! More and more is happening in each moment. This can clearly be seen in this diagram:
http://www.singularitytracker.com/images/countdown.gif
Ray Kurzweil talks about the Law of Accelerating Returns:
"An analysis of the history of technology shows that technological change is exponential, contrary to the common-sense “intuitive linear” view. So we won’t experience 100 years of progress in the 21st century — it will be more like 20,000 years of progress (at today’s rate). The “returns,” such as chip speed and cost-effectiveness, also increase exponentially. There’s even exponential growth in the rate of exponential growth. Within a few decades, machine intelligence will surpass human intelligence, leading to The Singularity — technological change so rapid and profound it represents a rupture in the fabric of human history. The implications include the merger of biological and nonbiological intelligence, immortal software-based humans, and ultra-high levels of intelligence that expand outward in the universe at the speed of light." -- From: http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-law-of-accelerating-returns
Exponential growth is a feature of any evolutionary process, Kurzweil says. But I wonder what allows for this acceleration. If we think of evolution as a computational process, and for example Stephen Wolfram, the inventor of Mathematica, thinks of the universe that way, then such acceleration would maybe require a more and more powerful computer, which means either more and more computing bits or faster and faster speed or both. Which can be an indication of that the vibrational level of the entire universe, including for us humans, is indeed increasing.
Video - Stephen Wolfram: Computing a theory of everything
Stephen Wolfram: Computing a theory of everything - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60P7717-XOQ
Anders Lindman
17-08-2011, 10:27 AM
Instead of just accepting worry like a helpless victim of it, start to question it when worry tries to fuel your thinking and have the mindset of: this worry is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!!! Where the hell is the worry coming from? This worry is mindless and stupid. I'm done with the worry.
Of course, the worry will still be there because it has a huge momentum. So moving away from the worry is like turning around the Titanic.
And in my experience there will only be a tiny diminishing of the worry or even an increased feeling of the worry in the beginning, so it's important to keep at it.
lonestar
17-08-2011, 03:34 PM
I'm watching the David Icke video this morning and its very good. thanks
lonestar
17-08-2011, 05:47 PM
from Adyashanti's site.
"How does one know if they are ready? One is ready when they are willing to be absolutely consumed, when they are willing to be fuel for a fire without end."
"Thus begins the true path to enlightenment, granted only to those willing to be nobody. Discovering your "nobodyness" opens the door to awakening as beingness, and beyond that to the Source of all beingness."
"You see, it's all a creation of the mind, an endless movie, a terrible dream. Don't try to change the dream, because trying to change it is just another movement in the dream. Look at the dream. Be aware of the dream. That awareness is It. Become more interested in the awareness of the dream than in the dream itself. What is that awareness? Who is that awareness? Don't go spouting out an answer, just be the answer. Be It.
Anders Lindman
17-08-2011, 08:11 PM
In separation consciousness we create a lot of protection which makes the body rigid and hard which makes it prone to worry, irritation and anger (and even physical disease).
This is because in separation consciousness we feel the need to protect ourselves from all kinds of threats.
In unity consciousness there is another kind of protection that comes from being in harmony with the world. That harmony prevents attacks. Plus it brings inner peace. So in a sense the inner peace is the protection!
The BIG obstacle when moving from separation consciousness to unity consciousness is that we don't even know if unity consciousness is possible or only a speculative idea. A powerful method and practice is to put a doubt in oneself about this. Something like asking yourself: Is unity consciousness possible or not? Is inner peace an alternative form of protection? This will bring additional confusion to the mind but a deliberate kind of confusion to break up the hardened state of separation consciousness.
Anders Lindman
17-08-2011, 10:25 PM
Anger comes from inadequate protection or the perceived threat to something needing protection. In separation consciousness the fruits of our actions are brittle and vulnerable to threats and therefore separation consciousness is anger-prone.
Anger comes because we are too sensitive and vulnerable. And the anger gets even WORSE when we try to build up lots of protections to protect our vulnerable position. We become extremely hard and tense inside, and the slightest irritation can make us go supernova. We are like walking atom bombs of suppressed anger.
Unity consciousness is stable and robust since it is connected to the whole. Therefore anger is not needed in unity consciousness although I guess that less serious forms of anger will still be available even in unity consciousness.
lonestar
17-08-2011, 10:38 PM
"connected to the whole" i am reading Ambler's The releasing thread and it seems like many of these threads are already connected to the whole. :)
Anders Lindman
17-08-2011, 11:13 PM
"connected to the whole" i am reading Ambler's The releasing thread and it seems like many of these threads are already connected to the whole. :)
There has been a lot of talk about oneness in spirituality. Here is Brother Wayne Teasdale and Ken Wilber talking about some of this:
The Mystic Heart - Part 1- The Supreme Identity - YouTube
Of course, there is a huge difference between talking about oneness and the actual experience of oneness or unity consciousness.
I don't even know if a real experience of oneness is possible. :confused: I strongly suspect there is that possibility though. I think a real unity consciousness is possible to attain by everybody.
Separation consciousness causes a lot of fear. And fear is necessary and useful as a protection mechanism in separation consciousness. Perhaps the trickiest part of moving into unity consciousness is the breaking free from fear. Unity consciousness doesn't have anything to fear, at least not in the serious sense.
A part of the difficulty is the fear of letting go of fear! :D Here again I think it can be useful to bring in doubt into the mind. And ask oneself: Do I need fear or not? The increased confusion that brings helps the mind to break free from separation consciousness.
Anders Lindman
18-08-2011, 07:30 AM
Often there is talk about how we humans are too selfish and need to become selfless. First of all, being selfless is still a state of inner conflict because it's a neglect of the self. And secondly, people are only selfish in some areas. Many if not most adults have children. It takes a huge amount of time, effort and money to raise children. So that's the very opposite of being selfish BUT at the same time they are seldom willing to spend money on 'strangers'. It's only 'loved ones' they are nice to. That too creates an inner conflict.
Unity consciousness is to care about both self and others, and caring about everybody and not just a small clique of family members and friends. That creates harmony between people and inner peace.
Anders Lindman
18-08-2011, 08:21 AM
If unity consciousness is possible then how will personal relationships be experienced? :confused: There will not be any fear in the relationships, even with strangers! But how that will work is a bit puzzling to me. And also, will unity consciousness create some collective mind?
Anders Lindman
18-08-2011, 10:38 AM
Many hardcore mainstream materialists will say that the idea of a unity consciousness and unconditional peace is a bunch of New Age nonsense. Fundamental Christians will likely be more open to the idea since Jesus Christ talked about how to not worry at all plus in the Revelations they talk about a New Earth and things like that.
I try to integrate all kinds of sides. On the materialist side I will say that a unity consciousness is possible through technology. Even the most ardent materialist will have to acknowledge that. Imagine swallowing a pill with tiny, tiny nanobots in it. The nanobots then move through the bloodstream and into the brain where they attach themselves to the neurons. Then the nanobots connect wirelessly with a world-wide AI cloud. This will create a collective mind with super enhancement of our minds. Not possible today, but very possible within just a few decades.
So either way, unity consciousness WILL happen.
schmozzle
18-08-2011, 12:05 PM
I have been overwhelmed with how deep the rabbit hole goes, and appalled by the actions of the so-called elite with things such as trauma based mind control; mind control of people in prominent positions; kidnapping of children for blood sacrifices, Nazi scientists; same guys behind all the wars of the world; Vatican involvement, worldwide involvement etc etc etc. It goes on and on and on. Then there's the comet Elenin/ brown dwarf star thing as well.
Well at last I'm ok, after watching this vid.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Anders Lindman
18-08-2011, 04:27 PM
Why don't we have inner peace? It's because we have billions of years of struggle stored up in us. So we have a tremendous inner tension. We 'only' have to relax that tension in order for unconditional inner peace to start shining inside and around us.
Although it sounds simple in theory, dissolving this tension is like trying to melt an iceberg by sitting on it. On the other hand dissolving the tension is probably an accelerating process. In the beginning the progress is tiny. Then the inner peace starts to get stronger and stronger and the energy blocks start to dissolve more quickly.
lonestar
18-08-2011, 05:11 PM
nice
Anders Lindman
18-08-2011, 05:31 PM
Money is useful to practice on. Money is a source of a lot of worry. Tell yourself: "Money will boost my inner peace." Of course, in the beginning that's probably a huge lie. Later on it becomes your reality when the inner peace really starts shining and making money easy to deal with.
Anders Lindman
18-08-2011, 06:29 PM
A good trick is to be very alert and immediately detect ANY worry in you. Regardless of what the worry is about. And then question the worry by putting strong doubt in your mind. Then there will be a clash between the worry and the doubt and both are destroyed leading to increased inner peace.
Anders Lindman
18-08-2011, 07:38 PM
The world rulers have managed to push people down so that we feel worried all the time. Increasing our own inner peace is a great power to fight that oppression.
Notice that your body can produce feelgood chemicals WITHOUT any special external drugs!!! As Dr. Deagle said, the brain has receptors for feelgood narcotics and things like that because the body can produce those chemicals itself.
When your mind learns that the body can produce nice feelings by itself then observe the MASSIVE change that takes place in your mind and body. :D:cool::eek::)
Anders Lindman
18-08-2011, 08:24 PM
The oppressive rulers are keeping people unaware of their own powers. If our minds KNEW that the body is capable of very quickly feel super good then we would never accept feeling crappy most of the time as we now do.
The biggest block is therefore the BELIEF that your body and mind can's feel good unless you win a million dollars on the lottery or some mind control carrot like that.
And is it really more difficult for the body to feel super good than only a little bit better? I don't think so.
lonestar
22-08-2011, 12:41 AM
Why don't we have inner peace? It's because we have billions of years of struggle stored up in us. So we have a tremendous inner tension. We 'only' have to relax that tension in order for unconditional inner peace to start shining inside and around us.
Although it sounds simple in theory, dissolving this tension is like trying to melt an iceberg by sitting on it. On the other hand dissolving the tension is probably an accelerating process. In the beginning the progress is tiny. Then the inner peace starts to get stronger and stronger and the energy blocks start to dissolve more quickly.
anymore great ideas on how to increase our inner peace?:D