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anoninnyc
15-03-2007, 11:14 AM
Any advice on how to be a good mother? This was not planned but not unwanted either. I do feel bad for putting another human into this crazy world of ours, but perhaps I can raise someone who can help change all of that. Any names that are beneficial for my child, sex unknown? Any advice on what to do as a pregnant woman. Now I am off aspartame full stop. Going to try to eat organic, will obviously keep my baby away from vaccines. Anything I should know? Want to give my baby the best and should start now in the very early stages of pregnancy. I am really scared, but think that I will be a good mother. Hope so and will do my best anyway. I am new to all of this so any advice is greatly appreciated.

oneofmany
15-03-2007, 11:36 AM
Any advice on how to be a good mother? This was not planned but not unwanted either. I do feel bad for putting another human into this crazy world of ours, but perhaps I can raise someone who can help change all of that. Any names that are beneficial for my child, sex unknown? Any advice on what to do as a pregnant woman. Now I am off aspartame full stop. Going to try to eat organic, will obviously keep my baby away from vaccines. Anything I should know? Want to give my baby the best and should start now in the very early stages of pregnancy. I am really scared, but think that I will be a good mother. Hope so and will do my best anyway. I am new to all of this so any advice is greatly appreciated.you don't need any advice, just love your child and all will be well, I promise

jagalman
15-03-2007, 12:35 PM
Any advice on how to be a good mother? This was not planned but not unwanted either. I do feel bad for putting another human into this crazy world of ours, but perhaps I can raise someone who can help change all of that. Any names that are beneficial for my child, sex unknown? Any advice on what to do as a pregnant woman. Now I am off aspartame full stop. Going to try to eat organic, will obviously keep my baby away from vaccines. Anything I should know? Want to give my baby the best and should start now in the very early stages of pregnancy. I am really scared, but think that I will be a good mother. Hope so and will do my best anyway. I am new to all of this so any advice is greatly appreciated.

Where is the father??????
i dont like any idea about raising a kid with a missing part!!

anoninnyc
15-03-2007, 12:37 PM
i am married. but that isnt really a helpful question. if i didn't have a husband were you going to offer to be the father? fortunately i am happily married and financially secure.

jagalman
15-03-2007, 12:49 PM
i am married. but that isnt really a helpful question. if i didn't have a husband were you going to offer to be the father? fortunately i am happily married and financially secure.


This is not my Point of view!!
My idea only about raising a kid with a missing part the (Father or Mother)!
:) Good luck with your marriage!! :)

I dont know if i am good for marriage, just a thought of, it confuses me!!

tinmenace
15-03-2007, 01:13 PM
Congratulations.

This is an interesting site. I know that choice of name means a lot (remember Arizona saying that she had her name changed to add power?).


Kabalarian Philosophy - Teaching the principles of life (http://www.kabalarians.com/cfm/whatis.cfm)


And, analyze names here.... (http://www.kabalarians.com/cfm/menu-BriefAnalysis.cfm)


I'm not really vouching for the site, but it's fun if not anything else.


PS. I tried mine but it's uncommon so they didn't have it. :o

tinmenace
15-03-2007, 01:16 PM
Where is the father??????
i dont like any idea about raising a kid with a missing part!!



It's not ideal, but it's not necessarily detrimental either. It's not your child, so why get so upset about it? :confused:

ho1ogram
15-03-2007, 01:17 PM
Any advice on how to be a good mother?
I can't help you sorry, I've never been pregnant. The doctor said if I was female then there would be some hope... ;)

deca
15-03-2007, 01:44 PM
Don`t Feel you have to buy expensive items that you will hardly use.
Prams and buggies come to mind.
Find one that is gonna fit into your life style
I bought a good second hand 3 in 1 buggy/pram They also throu in a few other items they had left over.
It had removiable sleeping/cot was easyly move around
was small enough to use on most buses so I did not have to fold it up.
It changed into a pushchair as my daughter grow.
Make a list of the things you will need
this helps when friends and family want to help you.
They like it when they see your baby wearing or using something they have bought.
Don`t buy to many clothes nappies before your baby is born my little one was born 6weeks earliy so we had to rush out and buy a load of stuff.

notaslave
15-03-2007, 02:16 PM
And you might want to take a look at the real nappy campaign here in UK I am sure there will be similar in the States.

I mention it not because of the environmental benefits but because it is actually cheaper to use real nappies than disposable. It is something I would like to encourage young mothers to think about locally as many live in poverty.

melbo
15-03-2007, 05:43 PM
Congratulations! I didn't drink any diet drinks when I was pregnant with my daughter, not because I knew they were bad back then (1988) but because I went right off fizzy drinks. Try and relax, eat healthily and try not to worry, look at all the women that don't even know they're pregnant and carry on drinking, smoking etc, and have perfectly healthy babies. I had aspirin in the early stages as I didn't realise you weren't meant to. As for the vaccinations, I remember bringing my daughter home at 1 day old and the visiting midwife rammed a 'vitamin k' injection into her without even asking me. That upset me a lot. She says all babies need it, but what did they do in the old days if that is true??!

If you get morning sickness ginger is meant to be good. Try nibbling a gingernut biscuit before getting out of bed in the mornings. I threw up for the first 4 months with both my kids!

Hopefully you'll be fine though. Good luck!

lookfar
20-03-2007, 12:04 AM
Any advice on how to be a good mother? This was not planned but not unwanted either. I do feel bad for putting another human into this crazy world of ours, but perhaps I can raise someone who can help change all of that. Any names that are beneficial for my child, sex unknown? Any advice on what to do as a pregnant woman. Now I am off aspartame full stop. Going to try to eat organic, will obviously keep my baby away from vaccines. Anything I should know? Want to give my baby the best and should start now in the very early stages of pregnancy. I am really scared, but think that I will be a good mother. Hope so and will do my best anyway. I am new to all of this so any advice is greatly appreciated.

Hi anoninnyc

HUGE CONGRATULATIONS!!! That's great news, I'm so pleased for you and your partner.

Don't feel bad about bringing another human into this world, I strongly believe that we choose our parents, so you've been blessed with a spirit that wants to be with you :)

Alhough it's a natural worry, try not to doubt your abilities as a mother, as long as you have love your baby, everything will be fine. You'll find that it all comes instinctlvely :)

I highly recommend breastfeeding if you can, as I've found that this is one of the best ways to bond, keep them contented and above all else the most natural/healthy way to feed them. I kept up the breastfeeding until just after a year as I found it a good way to get my son to sleep:)

Another thing I found when I first gave birth was that the nurses told me not to sleep with my baby as I might crush him. I just had so much pleasure from holding & looking at him, I didn't listen to them & trust me, this will NOT happen. You become naturally aware of your baby more than anything else.

My little man is the best thing in my life, he brings me joy every day. I'm eternally grateful for having him & can't imagine life without him :)

Stay positive & happy as your baby will definitely pick up on that :) & most of all ENJOY your pregnancy, it's wonderful!!!!

Blessings.

multiverse
31-03-2007, 07:07 AM
Any advice on how to be a good mother? ... Any names that are beneficial for my child, sex unknown? Any advice on what to do as a pregnant woman. ... Anything I should know? ...

First of all, Congratulations! This is the ultimate domain where "knowing" applies! It is the experience where inner knowledge powerfully imposes itself, although the medical establishment tries so hard and often succeeds in stealing that awareness.

As far as names, it is said that babies "whisper" their name to the mother before their birth. For my first son, I had always wanted to give him a particular name and held onto this idea throughout most of the pregnancy. Then in the last week before his birth, another name imposed itself so powerfully on my consciousness that there was no doubt that I was told what to choose - this new name.

Through the experience of pregnancy, I felt so strongly that the physical body is only a vehicle. Soul contact became so tangible to me! I had another amazing experience with my second son. During one of the ultrasounds with him, he waved outward from the womb. Even the very "mechanical" doctor, who did not at all appear to have a spiritual perspective on life, said, "look, he's waving at you!"

Why worry about bringing children into this world, since your child chose with you to come now.

Lookfar said: Another thing I found when I first gave birth was that the nurses told me not to sleep with my baby as I might crush him. I just had so much pleasure from holding & looking at him, I didn't listen to them & trust me, this will NOT happen. You become naturally aware of your baby more than anything else.

I agree very much with Lookfar! Do not listen to those doctors when they tell you not to sleep with your child, because it is wonderful to do so. You'll know what is best. Medicalization of birth is meant to prevent bonding. You don't need to rest from your baby but, rather, with your baby.... snuggle, cuddle, smell, look at, sense, love your baby! the very "mammalian" way! (tough luck for that very cold blooded society)

I also agree with Lookfar when she says: I highly recommend breastfeeding if you can, as I've found that this is one of the best ways to bond, keep them contented and above all else the most natural/healthy way to feed them. I kept up the breastfeeding until just after a year as I found it a good way to get my son to sleep

Don't let the doctors and nurses trick you by giving your baby sugared water or anything else before you start the breast feeding! I would suggest your getting involved in the La Leche League (http://www.lalecheleague.org/). They can be a great help.

Natural birth is a wonderful experience, even though they might tell you that you are a masochist if you don't have a epidural.:mad:

All of the above has been applied in our family and my three children - last one is a girl;) - are happy and healthy!

Here are some interesting links which might be helpful:

Michel Odent has wonderful ideas about non-medicalized births, though I am not keen on birthing in water (we are not dolphins, no offense to Lookfar, I hope;) ):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Odent
http://hometown.aol.com/Birthwkscd/bwodent.html

"Haptonomy" is a science which can help in a number of areas:
http://www.haptonomie.org/va/cirdh/concept.html

Some more exotic, but very powerful, information can be found in Stewart and Janet Swerdlow's work, which is referenced on their site (http://www.expansions.com/)

Thank you for your trust, sharing such a powerful experience!

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5767/simplerosegf1.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=simplerosegf1.jpg)

With love,

Multiverse

truthcommission
31-03-2007, 07:19 AM
The world needs more children from awakened people like yourself.

Here is what I did (you can do it too) every night when my partner was pregnant...

I sung a little song to my unborn baby and the night she was born after a 13 hour labor I sung the song to her. It instantly bonded her to me and made her feel secure for her arrival into the world.

Apparently Mozart works wonders for unborn children and even right up to school age it makes their brains develop much faster.

pollock
31-03-2007, 08:24 AM
I gave birth to my son at home, there was me, my husband and a midwife, I was in known surroundings, and we could snuggle up in bed together right after.
My birth was luckily relatively fast and uncomplicated.
I highly recomend it, if your pregnancy is all going good and you have the guts, although the thought of going to the hospital is more scary to me than giving birth I did have my nagging fears about it.
I do think for me personally its all the propaganda surrounding birth in the western world that made me doubt my choise a couple of times, and I was so happy afterwards, it just felt so right!
I dont know if you are aloud to ghive birth at home where you live, but for me it was the right thing to do, and if I get pregnant again (your announcement made my babynerves stir) I will do it again.

I am so happy for you

F

masonic3
17-04-2007, 09:54 PM
Any advice on how to be a good mother? This was not planned but not unwanted either. I do feel bad for putting another human into this crazy world of ours, but perhaps I can raise someone who can help change all of that. Any names that are beneficial for my child, sex unknown? Any advice on what to do as a pregnant woman. Now I am off aspartame full stop. Going to try to eat organic, will obviously keep my baby away from vaccines. Anything I should know? Want to give my baby the best and should start now in the very early stages of pregnancy. I am really scared, but think that I will be a good mother. Hope so and will do my best anyway. I am new to all of this so any advice is greatly appreciated.

keep my baby away from vaccines

I am sorry but this is insane sorry, it should be taken away from you.
Even if it is mind control through vaccines?

Kill your baby----------or---------Mind control?

Admin you should do something about this, because if the papers get hold of this sort of thing on here you had it, I don't know if Icke would want to have his name against a satement like this?

armitage_vi
17-04-2007, 10:37 PM
Any advice on how to be a good mother? This was not planned but not unwanted either. I do feel bad for putting another human into this crazy world of ours, but perhaps I can raise someone who can help change all of that. Any names that are beneficial for my child, sex unknown? Any advice on what to do as a pregnant woman. Now I am off aspartame full stop. Going to try to eat organic, will obviously keep my baby away from vaccines. Anything I should know? Want to give my baby the best and should start now in the very early stages of pregnancy. I am really scared, but think that I will be a good mother. Hope so and will do my best anyway. I am new to all of this so any advice is greatly appreciated.


I have a 2 year old, and all the advice I can say is to love them unconditionally, expose them to a much as you can so they can see how vast and beautiful the time is. Also be a hands on parent, don't just sit in front of the tele and let your kid run around the house. Be hands on, be a teacher, be a friend and love them more than anything in the universe....

My child has made me become a better person because you learn that life is no longer just about you.. .Also try to stay healthy and happy, when the baby is out take that time as a chance to be the BEST that you can be.

Congrats and may you and your child have a happy, and healthy life...

anoninnyc
18-04-2007, 12:28 AM
keep my baby away from vaccines

I am sorry but this is insane sorry, it should be taken away from you.
Even if it is mind control through vaccines?

Kill your baby----------or---------Mind control?

Admin you should do something about this, because if the papers get hold of this sort of thing on here you had it, I don't know if Icke would want to have his name against a satement like this?

fist of all thank you to all of the well wishers. now masonic person.... what does my statement have to do with david icke? this is an open forum that even allows a masonic nutjob such as yourself to post. my aversion to vaccinating the very young has got nothing to do with david icke. in fact i disagree with icke on many points, i have my own brain and i think for myself.

i will certainly keep my baby away from vaccines, not out of fear of mind control, but because i believe that children are given all sorts of vaccines at too young of an age and their systems cant handle it. though it is not medically proven that there is a link between autism and vaccinations there is much anecdotal evidence and enough correlations to make me suspicious of vaccines. i may or may not let my child have vaccinations after a certain age, i will decide when the time comes, but it is MY DECISION AS A PARENT.

now, what kind of a person would tell a pregnant woman that their child should be taken away from them? it is not as if i am a drug abuser, child abuser or a bad person in any way. what kind of sick world do you live in? have you no shame, trying to upset a pregnant woman? i see what you are doing and i dont like it. you have shown your true colors.

hagbard_celine
18-04-2007, 12:30 AM
Any advice on how to be a good mother? This was not planned but not unwanted either. I do feel bad for putting another human into this crazy world of ours, but perhaps I can raise someone who can help change all of that. Any names that are beneficial for my child, sex unknown? Any advice on what to do as a pregnant woman. Now I am off aspartame full stop. Going to try to eat organic, will obviously keep my baby away from vaccines. Anything I should know? Want to give my baby the best and should start now in the very early stages of pregnancy. I am really scared, but think that I will be a good mother. Hope so and will do my best anyway. I am new to all of this so any advice is greatly appreciated.

Congratulation, anoninnyc! It sounds like your doing everything good for your baby already. You're avoiding the bad things and embracing the good things. The most important things are the simplest. And the simplest thing a baby needs is love. It sounds like it has that already.

anoninnyc
18-04-2007, 12:37 AM
thanks a lot hagbard, you are very kind.

pollock
18-04-2007, 11:11 AM
Admin you should do something about this, because if the papers get hold of this sort of thing on here you had it, I don't know if Icke would want to have his name against a satement like this?

Hmmm....
Is it against the law not to vaccinate your children??

And I agree with anoninnyc, what kind of person would tell a pregnant woman they don't know jack sh*t about that they are not fit to be mothers??
Well your kind I guess!(wishing there was a puking emoticon)

anoninnyc, do what feels right, don't let anyone tell you pro or con
You and your husband/man are the guardians of this new life until the end of your days, it is a blessing and imo the best way to make some sense of this existance.

Best wishes and lots of smiles
F

hagbard_celine
18-04-2007, 12:45 PM
Hmmm....
Is it against the law not to vaccinate your children??

And I agree with anoninnyc, what kind of person would tell a pregnant woman they don't know jack sh*t about that they are not fit to be mothers??
Well your kind I guess!(wishing there was a puking emoticon)

anoninnyc, do what feels right, don't let anyone tell you pro or con
You and your husband/man are the guardians of this new life until the end of your days, it is a blessing and imo the best way to make some sense of this existance.

Best wishes and lots of smiles
F
I second! :)

And it's more difficult to avoid vaccinations in the USA than other countries, but it can be done. A good civil rights lawyer will advise you on how to use the loopholes. In my own country, the UK, we're lucky. My doctor offered my daughter a flu jab and I simply said "no"; that was the end of it.

masonic3
18-04-2007, 01:04 PM
It upsets me to see a "Mother" plan something like that, I think you should see your GP and talk about it before making such a path for your child, its not just your life

tinmenace
18-04-2007, 01:23 PM
Careful please with the personal comments.

lilloz
18-04-2007, 02:30 PM
Congratulations what happy news, im sure you will make a fine parent and i agree with your statement about vaccines.
Best of luck with everything xx

limelady
18-04-2007, 03:38 PM
Congratulations anoninnyc !!!

You've been given some good advice already, and all I'd add is that you make sure you are taking folic acid in order to avoid neural tube syndrome (spina bifida).....5mg daily right through pregnancy and beyond into breast-feeding is great. VERY important, as the western diet is very depleted in this vitally important B-group vitamin.

http://www.ibis-birthdefects.org/start/fa.htm

Also a good quality multi-vitamin/mineral formulation for nutritional support for you and you wee on-board bub.

Good on your anti-vaccine stance....you WON'T regret that decision. Other than that, the only other thing I'd mention is that we all need to be aware that ultrasounds may not be as safe for baby as we've been lead to believe they are.

http://www.mercola.com/2003/feb/19/ultrasound_scans.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2004/apr/14/prenatal_ultrasounds.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2000/apr/9/natural%20birthing%20options.htm

http://www.aims.org.uk/Journal/Vol11No4/ultra2.htm


Use your intuition on what's right for you and your baby!

All the best and stay happy :D

anoninnyc
18-04-2007, 06:56 PM
Thank you for the kind words. Yes I am aware of the need for folic acid, etc. I am taking a pre-natal supplement for this reason. Unfortunately I did not realize I was pregnant right away, probably not until 5 weeks into my pregnancy, so I did not start with the vitamins until then. I obviously did not plan this pregnancy but I am lucky as I have a great medical insurance plan (in the united states remember we dont have public health care), and more than adequate financial resources. My husband has doctors in his family with whom I have discussed many things with such as vaccines, and who are not opposed to my postponing vaccination to a later age and longer spacing between them, and I will obviously discuss such matters with a pediatrician once the child is born. However I will not blindly trust what anyone says, whether it is a doctor, politician, writer, etc. Ultimately this will be a joint decision between my husband and I. This is a wacky world.... I mean for me, as a mother, I must be a free thinker and really take the time to analyze every decision, especially medical decisions, for my child. I do not blindly trust doctors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study
That is a wiki link to one very good reason for this attitude of mine. I also do not blindly trust holistic medicine types either. One thing I have learned about people is that money can make them bend their morals, so I always keep this in mind, and will try to do the best I can for my child. I am a free thinker and will take opinions and advice from all sources, but I will also evaluate the motivations and factors behind each source as I make my own decison.

anoninnyc
18-04-2007, 07:13 PM
whoah, limelady, read about the ultrasounds, that is a bit scary as I have already had two so far. How long have they been around I wonder? would our mothers have had these same ultrasounds?

sean
18-04-2007, 07:45 PM
keep my baby away from vaccines

I am sorry but this is insane sorry, it should be taken away from you.
Even if it is mind control through vaccines?

Kill your baby----------or---------Mind control?

Admin you should do something about this, because if the papers get hold of this sort of thing on here you had it, I don't know if Icke would want to have his name against a satement like this?

The admin will do nothing about it, and congratulate the Mother on her decision.

Stop the personal attacks, please.

the festival spirit
01-06-2007, 10:59 PM
Any advice on how to be a good mother? This was not planned but not unwanted either. I do feel bad for putting another human into this crazy world of ours, but perhaps I can raise someone who can help change all of that. Any names that are beneficial for my child, sex unknown? Any advice on what to do as a pregnant woman. Now I am off aspartame full stop. Going to try to eat organic, will obviously keep my baby away from vaccines. Anything I should know? Want to give my baby the best and should start now in the very early stages of pregnancy. I am really scared, but think that I will be a good mother. Hope so and will do my best anyway. I am new to all of this so any advice is greatly appreciated.

Firstly, MEGA CONGRATULATIONS anoninnyc, dad n baby :) I wish you all a beautiful life.

A little fatherly advice if I may .. but please note to check things out and do your own research, I am no expert, I am just a guy who loves his kids.

The best thing you can do to be a good mother is have a level head, which you have so shown us you have so your off to a flying start, Well done.

Conception is like a miracle of nature and a gift, (it took us 4 years to concieve,) if you nurture that gift from conception, the baby will grow stronger and healthier, and will carry the nurturing skills you teach.

You can start educating baby right now, if you like, I am not talking about brainwashing or anything like that, but I educated my kids from the day they made us aware that they were there. I have a few suggestions but I would like to

The world needs more children from awakened people like yourself.

Here is what I did (you can do it too) every night when my partner was pregnant...

I sung a little song to my unborn baby and the night she was born after a 13 hour labor I sung the song to her. It instantly bonded her to me and made her feel secure for her arrival into the world.

Apparently Mozart works wonders for unborn children and even right up to school age it makes their brains develop much faster.

This is a most beautiful idea, but I have to admit I got round this one slightly differently back in the 80's, what I did was ask my wife to take at least ten minutes out twice a day, (she did not have to work or anything so that was ok) and put some music on, we actually used the neighbours theme tune (I know thats sad, but you can use a cd of music or something else of your choice) neighbours was on twice a day here in the uk, lunch time and tea time, so it was easy to make it a regular thing, lie or sit down comfortably and relax, and the baby will soon learn when they hear the tune that its time to relax, (this can actually be used for a year or two beyond pregnancy if your lucky,) but start your breathing exercises now.


It can really really help if your back or legs are aching, or if baby starts kicking, and it hurts, (we are a family of footballers, so my babies kicked well) :) We actually had a video of said tune, so we could put it on anytime, also once you get to the relaxed stage talk to baby both mentally and verbally and get dad there too if possible. Introduce yourselves and talk to baby, you really can educate from any age, teach the alphabet and or sums and things, You could even try this during birth too,

My favourite thing to teach baby is this, its easy satisfying and good for you's.
If you don't already, start to grow your own food and get some big pots that you can have inside (with plenty sunshine of course, So you can still do a little everyday without having to go out in bad weather/do heavy work,) do this now if you can, and tell baby what you are doing out loud, that way baby learns to grow with the food/plants, (try some tomatoes, or potatoes, they are really easy to grow, I didnt have much luck with carrots indoors,) that food can also provide some of the nutrients you will need and can also be medicine, look up natural cures and things, and pick two or three veggies you like and are good for you, things with iron and what have you, but avoiding processed food is really good, of course, you can find much about it on the net.

And dont forget to get dad to join in, get dad to do any digging if you can grow stuff outside, ;)

Baby oil/natural oil on the skin to help moisten it, to stop stretchymarks, and you and baby will really start to become aware of each other as you massage the womb. makes baby feel all snug and cosy.

and all this is what you can do now, in preperation for the birth, I am sure there will be easily available natural stuff you can get, but just think you could be growing your own natural stuffs, well you are anyway, and like truth commision says,

I found this,
The unborn child will require an adequate amount of organic minerals from its mother for building of bones and tissues and this can be supplied by natural food such as fruits, raw vegetables, whole meal bread, and milk,

unnatural foods like white bread, sugar,meat, pudding and pies are very deficient in organic mineral matter and their intake during pregnancy leads to loss and decay of teeth, general debility and other ailments after childbirth.

Pregnancy is rendered more difficult in case of habitual constipation. IN the advanced stage, this is aggravated by the pressure of the enlarged uterus on the bowels. This can be avoided by eating plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables of high fibre content. The expectant mother should drink eight to ten glasses of water. She should not delay going to the lavatory when there is the urge. In severe constipation, a lukewarm water enema may be taken once every week.

The diet for expectant mothers should be planned along the following lines by securing a safe and easy child birth and a healthy child :

Breakfast : Fresh fruit in season or grated raw carrot, or any other raw salad and milk. Prunes or other dried fruit may also be taken, if desired.

Lunch : Steamed vegetables, as obtainable, whole wheat chappatis and a glass of buttermilk.

Dinner : A good-sized raw salad of any suitable vegetables, sprouted mung beans, whole wheat bread, butter or cottage cheese and prunes or other dried fruit as dessert.

Don't ask me what sprouted mung beans are :( and somewhere I once read that eating for two was a myth and that if you eat the right foods in normal amounts, then the body does the rest naturally, (BUT please check this up first) a larger baby could lead to uncomfortable births. start your breathing exercises now.

I personally think bearing children to be the most wondeful thing, but I am not a woman, I have 2 children, my son was born 3 months premature, and so have had fatherly experience of traumatic births, they told us all the stuff we should have known after the arrival.. cos we were all taken by surprise. But i believe the good start we gave him, gave him something to live for and he had to fight, and he succeded.

I just realised how important it is like truthcommision says .........

The world needs more children from awakened people like yourself.



I think its like someone else said, with all this attention, baby might just tell you their name anyway by signalling somehow, try saying diffferent names you like (when doing different things) and see if baby kicks or turns at the sound of certain names ?

Best Wishes to you all.

mada88
02-06-2007, 12:36 AM
Why do we give people credit for having a baby? Its not exactly that hard to have the sex to start the whole baby making process.
If having sex was hard I would then give people credit for having children.

pollock
02-06-2007, 12:41 AM
Why do we give people credit for having a baby? Its not exactly that hard to have the sex to start the whole baby making process.
If having sex was hard I would then give people credit for having children.

Lol, you dont have kids I can hear, the sex bit is kinda not the main part of having children! And these days there are also a lot of people who can not concieve no matter how much sex they have, I think it is the kindeling of a new (or old) soul that awes people (at least me).

F

mada88
02-06-2007, 12:46 AM
Lol, you dont have kids I can hear, the sex bit is kinda not the main part of having children! And these days there are also a lot of people who can not concieve no matter how much sex they have, I think it is the kindeling of a new (or old) soul that awes people (at least me).

F

Its not that I don't like kids its just that they get lied to from day one and they are like fresh meat ready to be programmed with the shite this world throws at ppl.

pollock
02-06-2007, 12:51 AM
Its not that I don't like kids its just that they get lied to from day one and they are like fresh meat ready to be programmed with the shite this world throws at ppl.

No I didnt think you didnt like kids, and you are right, but imagine what we can teach them, my son is already smarter than me in some areas and he is only two and a half.
As a mother I just thought it a bit hilarious to say that the challange with having kids is the sex, I mean I wish!!!!!!
(well it is a challange to manage to get time for it at all after I guess)

Love
F

the festival spirit
02-06-2007, 02:18 AM
Its not that I don't like kids its just that they get lied to from day one and they are like fresh meat ready to be programmed with the shite this world throws at ppl.

You do mean SOME kids get lied to from day one dont you ?

anoninnyc
13-06-2007, 09:33 AM
thanks so much festival spirit. all is going well with the pregnancy so far. my husband is very excited and is shocked at how big my belly is already. i have taken your advice on the music. as i am in nyc in an apartment i am unable to grow food myself. but i have been feeding myself well.

anoninnyc
13-06-2007, 09:39 AM
Why do we give people credit for having a baby? Its not exactly that hard to have the sex to start the whole baby making process.
If having sex was hard I would then give people credit for having children.

well you won't get an argument from me. there are terrible parents out there who deserve no credit. sex is the easy part, but let me tell you that pregnancy is no picnic. it is the being a parent part that i reckon is really the hard work.

anoninnyc
13-06-2007, 09:42 AM
You do mean SOME kids get lied to from day one dont you ?


i would say that most kids get lied to from day one. i will try my best to be honest with my child. festival spirit you seem to be really into being a father, do you have any advice on how to raise a child in this crazy world? how do you explain things like the iraq war or 911 to your child?

ngawaka19
13-06-2007, 10:31 AM
Firstly Congratulations to the family.

2nd Masonic3 is defanately more lizard than Pleiadian.

3rd follow your instincts. Our foremothers have been throwing bian's out for thousands of years. Its all in your sub-conscious/hard drive/dna. Yes it is scarey. I had my bub at home, home birth, it was no sweat, the father helped with the birthing when our boy came out we cried and cried with joy. It is an experience that all of us need to do. It helps with a deeper realisation of life. Keep healthy food, not much meat if you can help it, not much spicey foods either, stick to your whole foods and try to keep away from processed foods. I never excepted the doctors prescribed iron tabs, I decided on Spirilina Tablets or powder, its a seaweed, but my iron was never low. Calcium is important. Stay happy with lots of laughter and music. Once bub is born, its so important to keep breast feeding as long as you can, baby's brain is still growing and his immune needs all the anti's that your breast milk has. Breast feeding is as if not more painful than the birth. But don't give up, so many woman give up on breast feeding because they want to go back to work or they have complications, just keep going, its only a matter of a week to 2 weeks before its all ok.
I'm available to contact if need be, I have 4 children, ages, 17 16 14 10. Three of my children are adopted. So I'm a bit of an old hand (in a young body).
Love and Light my friend

anoninnyc
13-06-2007, 09:05 PM
thanks ngawaka19. yes, i am planning on breastfeeding, and if i have problems with it there are lactation consultants. you sound like a really kind person, adopting three children. wow. did you adopt them before or after you gave birth to your son? are you not overwhelmed with four children? i am worried about how i will handle one.

ngawaka19
14-06-2007, 12:29 AM
thanks ngawaka19. yes, i am planning on breastfeeding, and if i have problems with it there are lactation consultants. you sound like a really kind person, adopting three children. wow. did you adopt them before or after you gave birth to your son? are you not overwhelmed with four children? i am worried about how i will handle one.

Chur anoninny, the 16 yr old is my biological son, My 3 others came to me when they were 9, 7 and 18 mths old. They're mother was 31 when she died, and I had been wondering what my real lifes work was, I had become dissolutioned with the industry I was working in and knew that it was just my bread and butter. I came into contact with them via a friend and they were floundering it was only 9 mths after the death of the mother. I asked those ones upstairs (if you catch my drift) what I should do. Being very ambitious and wanting to get my message out there via my work, I didn't see what was right in front of me, but the answer came back and they (up there) made it very clear that I was to scoop these children up and be Mother #2 as I put it. In my culture its natural, everyone is the mother or father to everyone elses babies, that way theres never a baby left alone. They drive me nuts at the best of times, there opening greeting to me on a good day is "got 20 bucks mum" or "c'Ive the keys ma". pip squeeks, they are the same all over the world, none are different, its all kids stuff. I managed to do my career, I work in the film&tv industry, sometimes 12 hour days and come home to cook dinner and hear all their highs and lows of the day. I won't tell you its easy, its not. You are at the beck and call, of these egocentric narssassissist's. And sometimes you just wanna go to the shop for some milk and never come back. But you get over it. Just make sure you take time for yourself, as a young mother I found that adult time with just adults no children involved was the perfect refresher. It would feel great to just be with other adults and not have to work hard. I found it important to have at least one outing per week, with a few solitaire walks thrown in. Reach out, if you need to. I have always found that hard but when I did reach out for help, there was always someone there, most surprising who in your life does this for you too. When you think about the woman that live in the 3rd world that have to put a calabash on thier heads and walk thru the desert with a baby on thier hip to collect water, then walk all the way back, whew, we got it easy. I know you are gonna be great. You've prob had many children in other lives. You will remember once baby is in your arms. It will all come flooding in. Trust yourself and your angels. You sound like your gonna be a loving caring mum, and your man sounds the same. Someone on this thread said that more enlightened people need to have children for the world to be saved or benefit. They are right. Thats why I adopted these children, there are too many parentless children in the world. You might love being a mum so much, you may consider adoption yourself. Just a thought. Keep reading, laughing and singing to baby whilst he's in your womb. It all goes in. But you probably already know that. Take good care mama, love and light always. ngawaka19

anoninnyc
14-06-2007, 05:32 AM
thanks infinitetruth for the advice. i gave up so much fake stuff when i found out i was pregnant (artificial sweeteners, processed foods, nitrates, etc.) and am getting better and better about that sort of thing.

ngawaka19, that is an amazing thing you have done for those children (and for the world). if i end up being good at this mothering thing i would like to adopt as well. one step at a time though.

the festival spirit
14-06-2007, 06:22 PM
i would say that most kids get lied to from day one. i will try my best to be honest with my child. festival spirit you seem to be really into being a father, do you have any advice on how to raise a child in this crazy world? how do you explain things like the iraq war or 911 to your child?

Thank you for the question, anoninnyc. you remind me of another member, but no matter. I would have much advice on the subjects mentioned, but I will try to keep it brief.

I am 'really' into being a father, what else could offer me so much motivation?

raising a child in this crazy world is easy, if you know how, many would like to argue that point, but they just want to see things negatively. With a posotive mind and a positive outlook, you will be far better equipped than most to bring up your children in this world.

Somwhere there is a post/thread called words, it shows how I understand war, it shows how I do not like war, but I understand it. It helps if you can read it, it helps because it gives you an idea how to help a person understand things. If that person only sees the negative, you wont be able to help them understand because they will have an unbalanced view. Try your best to show your children how to look at things in a balanced way, its not always easy to do this, but you must try, you are responsible until a certain time. Live up to your responsibilities and you will do better than most. (if we accept that 'most' do not live up to their responsibilities)

Please ask more if you would like more direct answers to your questions, but honestly, this is all round good advice, I am not the be all and end all of anything, you must do your own research and find your own answers, but lets face it we come to forums like this to gain and share information. So ask away if you wish.

I have fostered two children in the past, they are now growing up with their natural biological father who had been pushed out, by negative people and negative systems, shit happens and those aware of it are in teh best position to deal with it.

the festival spirit
14-06-2007, 09:14 PM
> THIS THREAD < (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4875)

Will give you some good advice on one aspect of being (or not being) a good parent.

AS david icke says, (newsletter June 10th 2007) see newsletter archive.

That's it ... it's been another challenging week in which, once again, those who say most vehemently and constantly they want to support me in my work turn out to be the ones who are most willing to undermine it in every way they can whenever it suits them. Those who truly support what I do just get on with the job, no words necessary. Their actions speak for them. Beware those who have to tell you over and over who they are, for if it were true it would be obvious in their actions. Words are so easy.

I find it necassary to use other peoples words sometimes. As mine can be twisted by those with negative intentions. But some negative people also say that using other peoples words is a bit dodgy too...

do I sound a bit sad today?