Campaign to free chickens!

[mad as a cat]

Here is a link to a site that is campaigning to free chickens!

http://www.chickenout.tv/index.html

Please sign and cross-post,thank you

[the obliterati]

They really should be allowed to live as natural lives as possible even if they are to be eventually killed for food, just like any other animal. Factory farming only adds to the tremendous collective fear and insanity of our planet with the millions of living individuals in slavery and torment. I eat meat sometimes, so I can't in good conscience say it's wrong to kill for food, but for goodness sakes we should allow animals to wander and socialize naturally at all times rather than keeping them in torture situations such as mass-scale farming produces.

[revolutionary_jam]

you can judge a society by how it treats animals

[mari]

I'm sick & tired of the same old whingeing (as was featured in the Chicken out prog) ' its too expensive - I cant afford it! YOU try to live on a single parent wage blah blah !'
Well, I for one would love to have a good old rummage in their shopping trolleys & pull out all the crap that they buy for themselves & their kids.
Nutritionally empty rubbish like fizzy drinks, cakes, sweets, pizzas, crisps etc etc etc all cost money & could easily be done without. I see it every bloody day in my Somerfield - trolleys piled high with junk, & the free range stuff - what there is of it - lying untouched on the shelves.
Its not lack of money - its the culture of lazyness, ignorance & a general uncaring attitude that infests this country's culinary mindset.

[revolutionary_jam]

I'm sick & tired of the same old whingeing (as was featured in the Chicken out prog) ' its too expensive - I cant afford it! YOU try to live on a single parent wage blah blah !'
Well, I for one would love to have a good old rummage in their shopping trolleys & pull out all the crap that they buy for themselves & their kids.
Nutritionally empty rubbish like fizzy drinks, cakes, sweets, pizzas, crisps etc etc etc all cost money & could easily be done without. I see it every bloody day in my Somerfield - trolleys piled high with junk, & the free range stuff - what there is of it - lying untouched on the shelves.
Its not lack of money - its the culture of lazyness, ignorance & a general uncaring attitude that infests this country's culinary mindset.

I know you can't imagine what crap people buy in the newsagent i work in it's ridiculous

[cruise4]

Signed.

[misscpb]

Signed, lets hope this is the start to actually raise awareness of all animals that are being used and abused in the food industry.

[john white]

Worthy thread this

[chandrakavi]

Signed

Hope the campign succeeds

[chris]

How can John White edit Mad as a cat's post?

I don't see how they are going to free the chickens any time soon but it's good to join boundaries and hopefully make them see that if they want animals rights, then they should fight the NWO in it's most sensative spots.

[mad as a cat]

How can John White edit Mad as a cat's post?

I don't see how they are going to free the chickens any time soon but it's good to join boundaries and hopefully make them see that if they want animals rights, then they should fight the NWO in it's most sensative spots.

Hi Chris.:)

No conspiracy here ;) - I asked John White if he could move this thread from 'Medicine,Health and Healing', as that sub-forum doesn't get many visitors.:( I also asked him to edit it:"Please sign and cross-post,thank you.", as I had left it too late to edit it myself.

There may be a chance that this petition could be successful,as Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall and Jamie Oliver are rather popular with people in the U.K.
And this subject was also a front page headline in my local paper,so the message is getting out.:)

All the best,mad as a cat.

[unicorn]

Lovely way of spreading the word mad a a cat! I loved the Hugh and Jamie programmes highlighting the chicken's plight... let's hope it's sowing the seeds to all of intensive farming to be a thing of the past soon ;)

I'm sick & tired of the same old whingeing (as was featured in the Chicken out prog) ' its too expensive - I cant afford it! YOU try to live on a single parent wage blah blah !'
Well, I for one would love to have a good old rummage in their shopping trolleys & pull out all the crap that they buy for themselves & their kids.
Nutritionally empty rubbish like fizzy drinks, cakes, sweets, pizzas, crisps etc etc etc all cost money & could easily be done without. I see it every bloody day in my Somerfield - trolleys piled high with junk, & the free range stuff - what there is of it - lying untouched on the shelves.
Its not lack of money - its the culture of lazyness, ignorance & a general uncaring attitude that infests this country's culinary mindset.

Well said! Bravo! The few people that were opposed were so forceful in their belief... as if it's their right to eat meat as much as they want...

And what shocked me as much as the brutal living conditions was the price that a farmer gets per chicken.......

3p!!! :eek:

Who's making the rest of the profit for shithead Tesco to be having 'special offer' chicked at 2 for £5??? http://boycotttesco.com

[steevo]

Oh those POOR farmers :rolleyes: :D ;)

But yes I like the work that Jamie Oliver does very much. Let's hope he lives to see it come to fruition.

[lydia78]

They really should be allowed to live as natural lives as possible even if they are to be eventually killed for food, just like any other animal. Factory farming only adds to the tremendous collective fear and insanity of our planet with the millions of living individuals in slavery and torment. I eat meat sometimes, so I can't in good conscience say it's wrong to kill for food, but for goodness sakes we should allow animals to wander and socialize naturally at all times rather than keeping them in torture situations such as mass-scale farming produces.

Very well said!! :):)

[lottie]

I must say bearing in mind i havn't watched the programme regarding this as i much prefer to bury my head in the sand when it comes to the mistreatment of animals as it breaks my heart so (not as in 'do nothing about it' but as in i cant watch it!)
But - i have to say surely these farmers are being greedy in a way- with the travel company i work for we have a 'freight department' so pepole can send items across the water, and the other day we had some chicks come across in cardboard boxes- i went into the office and was appauled to see them packed tightly in these stacked up boxes and promptly went and told my manager etc asking how long had they been there? when were they being collected? when did they last get fed/watered? why are they so tightly packed? He told me it's not our concern and we arn't supposed to call the person to come get them they should know when the chicks arrive and should be here but i insisted she be called to collect them-so he did it!

When she arrived she explained how they have to be packed like that to keep them warm, (duh!!) they hadn't been in the boxes days but hours and the woman was extremely proud to explain how her chickens were 'proper' chickens- they were now off to be hand reared on her farm and oragnically fed etc and she said although the supermarkets wont touch her as she charges far too much per chicken- some of the farm shops etc do- she was proud to explain it all, she still has a good income not only from her chickens which she charges more for than a supermarket chicken but the sale of eggs and other farm produce etc but at least she can sleep at night with the knowledge that her chickens had a good life, they are healthy, loved, etc etc.....

PS. signed and passed on link!! x

[lottie]

They really should be allowed to live as natural lives as possible even if they are to be eventually killed for food, just like any other animal. Factory farming only adds to the tremendous collective fear and insanity of our planet with the millions of living individuals in slavery and torment. I eat meat sometimes, so I can't in good conscience say it's wrong to kill for food, but for goodness sakes we should allow animals to wander and socialize naturally at all times rather than keeping them in torture situations such as mass-scale farming produces.

Also a lot of abatoirs are specifically built on certain ley-lines to harness/amplify the energy/fear released in there! :(

We have a debate going on where i live at the moment about plans to build a new abatoir! :rolleyes::(

[mari]

I must say bearing in mind i havn't watched the programme regarding this as i much prefer to bury my head in the sand when it comes to the mistreatment of animals as it breaks my heart so (not as in 'do nothing about it' but as in i cant watch it!)
But - i have to say surely these farmers are being greedy in a way- with the travel company i work for we have a 'freight department' so pepole can send items across the water, and the other day we had some chicks come across in cardboard boxes- i went into the office and was appauled to see them packed tightly in these stacked up boxes and promptly went and told my manager etc asking how long had they been there? when were they being collected? when did they last get fed/watered? why are they so tightly packed? He told me it's not our concern and we arn't supposed to call the person to come get them they should know when the chicks arrive and should be here but i insisted she be called to collect them-so he did it!

When she arrived she explained how they have to be packed like that to keep them warm, (duh!!) they hadn't been in the boxes days but hours and the woman was extremely proud to explain how her chickens were 'proper' chickens- they were now off to be hand reared on her farm and oragnically fed etc and she said although the supermarkets wont touch her as she charges far too much per chicken- some of the farm shops etc do- she was proud to explain it all, she still has a good income not only from her chickens which she charges more for than a supermarket chicken but the sale of eggs and other farm produce etc but at least she can sleep at night with the knowledge that her chickens had a good life, they are healthy, loved, etc etc.....

PS. signed and passed on link!! x

Okay, but why could'nt the chicks have been hatched over here? Dont say it - she would probably say that it was more 'cost effective' to import them than rear them over here!(?)
I would've shot her 'proudness' down in flames over that. So-called real chickens subjected to the stress of spending hours in tightly packed boxes.
It sucks.

[them]

http://www.chickenout.tv/images/forum-header.jpg

http://www.rivercottage.net/

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[mad as a cat]

Thank you to everyone who is contributing to this thread and signing the petition, emailing and cross posting.:D

[tron]

Good thread. Watched the programme and was indeed heart-broken. Have to argree with Revolutionary Jam, You can judge your society by they way they treat the animals. In a free and open society set on help each other through co-operation you wouldn't have to treat animals in this way. Just away to sign it right now, thank you! :)
xx

[them]

Gallus gallus

http://www.kolkatabirds.com/corbett/redjunglefowl8c.jpg

Habitat and Domestication

The red jungle fowl (Gallus gallus) lives in thick secondary forest. In the morning or evening, the bird can be found in open areas or clearings. The red jungle fowl is native to Southern and Southeastern Asia. There are three other Gallus species, the green jungle fowl (Gallus varius), the grey jungle fowl (Gallus sonneratii) and the Ceylon or Lafayette's jungle fowl (Gallus lafayettei). The red jungle fowl is considered the progenitor of the modern chicken breeds used today in commercial agriculture. The exact time and place of domestication are unclear, and this may have occurred more than once during human history. It's believed that the modern chicken derives from birds kept by the people of the Harappan culture (2500-2100 B.C.), primarily for fighting purposes.

http://www.ensembl.org/Gallus_gallus/index.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/taxonomyhome.html/html/taxonomylogo.gif

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi?mode=Info&id=9031

includes:red junglefowl

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Summary

This species has a large range, with an estimated global Extent of Occurrence of 1,000,000-10,000,000 km². The global population size has not been quantified, but it is believed to be large as the species is described as 'common' in at least parts of its range (del Hoyo et al. 1994). Global population trends have not been quantified; there is evidence of a population decline (del Hoyo et al. 1994), but the species is not believed to approach the thresholds for the population decline criterion of the IUCN Red List (i.e. declining more than 30% in ten years or three generations). For these reasons, the species is evaluated as Least Concern.

http://www.birdlife.org/datazone/species/index.html?action=SpcHTMDetails.asp&sid=246

Wild Chickens in foraging in India (http://www.hbw.com/ibc/videos/Phasianidae/Gallus_gallus_6g.wmv)

[them]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqyFjVnWwto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D35uQCtr4EY

[steevo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D35uQCtr4EY

Wow that is amazing! It almost gives me faith back in human nature...sorry I mean faith in chickens :D Great video that :)

[on the road]

today the chickens

tomorrow the NWO

[lookfar]

Haven't seen the programme yet but will check it out on the link shortly. I've signed & sent onto a few mates too.

Thanks for sharing mad as a cat, it's such a worthy cause :)

[steevo]

Lat night on TV Jamie Oliver was doing another similar program. It wasnt quite as good a program. The bits that Jamie did were informative and probably correct but the OTHER bits done by other presenters were bollocks mostly. It was all half truths in my opinion. I feel sorry for Jamie Oliver because I think he is trying his best but the editing and content of the program is not really in his hands.

[them]

http://www.channel4.com/food/images/mb/Channel4/4Food/ontv/food-season08/gordon-cookalong/tonight.jpg

http://www.channel4.com/food/on-tv/cookalong-live/

[steevo]

So many cooking programs in this country yet the population still has no idea how to cook :confused:

Why ? Because tptb dont want us to cook. They way they do it is make us dizzy by moving the camera back an forth really fast and zoom in and out really fast and we just cant handle that so we give up. :mad:

One thing I noticed when I went to Australia is that their cooking programs are VERY good. They employ proper cameramen so that we can actually see what the cook is doing.

[misscpb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqyFjVnWwto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D35uQCtr4EY

Clever chickens, thanks for the video

[pollock]

This:

http://www.mtbarkerchicken.com.au/images/coop.jpg

Or this?:

http://www.all-creatures.org/images/battery2.jpg

How could there even be any doubt, I signed Cat!

:(
F

[outofdarknesscomeslight]

I just signed up. Great idea. :)

[mad as a cat]

Bump!!!!!

[them]

Those of you who feel strongly enough about the welfare & ethical implications of farming chickens commercially might want to think about farming their own.

This system helps illustrate how much room you would need for two Chickens or up to four Bantams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oma2RAxWc2A

The Omlet (http://www.omlet.co.uk/homepage/homepage.php) is cute but expensive.

http://www.cacklehatchery.com/aaf0018.JPG

Where would you source Chickens if you decided to farm a few?

Perhaps you could try some former Battery Farmed Hens.. Chickens stop laying for a little while each year. The Farmers find it impossible to keep up with the all powerful supermarkets demands so they are replaced by point-of-lay stock before the older Chickens are killed or rescued.

Battery Hen Welfare Trust (http://www.bhwt.org.uk/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjrmQjkr0tQ&feature=related

http://www.nuttychickens.com/wp-content/themes/connections/img/top.jpg (http://www.nuttychickens.com/?page_id=122)

[mad as a cat]

Here is an email from Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall.:D


Dear Chicken Out Supporter,

Thanks so much for signing the pledge, and for offering to get more involved in the campaign.

The response so far has been absolutely fantastic. Click here to see the latest good news.

Now the time has come to take our campaign to the next level, and make sure that the Free Range Fever currently sweeping the nation turns into a lasting commitment from consumers, retailers and suppliers, to change the way that Britain produces chicken. In other words, I still need your help!

There are a number of things I’d like you to do in the coming weeks that I’m convinced will make a real difference to the lasting effect of the campaign, and therefore to the lives of British chickens. You’ll be hearing from me again very soon about these ideas for the campaign, but meanwhile here’s the very first free range challenge! The sooner you can get involved the better – why not get out and have a go this weekend?

Free Range Challenge no 1: Snap your local supermarket!

Whilst Sainsbury’s and Waitrose have reported a massive effect of our programmes and campaign on their free range chicken sales, certain other supermarkets have claimed that we haven’t made much impact on the demand for free range chicken. Yet from all over the country we’re hearing reports that free range chicken is flying off the shelves, wherever it is on sale. If it really is the case that the supermarkets are struggling to supply the increased demand then that’s fantastic – it proves that when consumers are armed the facts they will shop with their conscience. And that is great news for chickens, as supermarkets will ask their suppliers to invest in new free range farms to meet the increased demand.

But we need proof! We need YOU to show us the evidence that Britain really has got Free Range Fever. So when you are next in your local supermarket, please take a picture of their free range poultry section and send it to us. A still or a video clip from your mobile phone will be fine. A digital snap or clip from a video camera is even better. Please also take a close up of any signs explaining why they are out of stock. And then send your shots over to us via email to: campaign@chickenout.tv>. And don’t forget to tell us who you are, and where and when your pictures were taken.

If you’d like to include a short video clip of yourself or a friend explaining why you/they support the campaign, and/or what effect you think we’re having on your local chicken outlets, that would be great too.

We’ll put the best shots and clips up on the Chicken Out! website, and some of them may even feature later in the year – with your permission of course - in our follow up programme about the campaign.

Thanks and happy snapping. I’ll be in touch again VERY soon,

All the best

Hugh

:D

[lord summerisle]

Here is a link to a site that is campaigning to free chickens!

http://www.chickenout.tv/index.html

Please sign and cross-post,thank you

The thing is if you let all chickens be free range (free range just being a ''term'' to put the price up) anyway a lot of farms go bust the companys cant afford to pay top prices in the end the price of chicken rockets, only the rich can offord to eat it. You see were im getting at and add it to every single aspect of trade in this world! Now you see!

[mad as a cat]

Nope!

[kriss_crow]

So many cooking programs in this country yet the population still has no idea how to cook :confused:



Hee?? My mother teached me how to cook.
My grandma teached me a lot too.
In Poland you just grow up with it.
I think I can make everything if I have a recipe.
What u really need is a will and some imagination.

It's so funny that people need tv to learn how to cook!!

***
Signed!

[kashmirz]

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4760/chicken2dh2.gif

good luck ay

[them]

The thing is if you let all chickens be free range (free range just being a ''term'' to put the price up) anyway a lot of farms go bust the companys cant afford to pay top prices in the end the price of chicken rockets, only the rich can offord to eat it. You see were im getting at and add it to every single aspect of trade in this world! Now you see!

I think you need to study economics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand).

However, the best way forward is to keep your own. No excuse not to really. Is there?

[them]

Here is an email from Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall.:D


Dear Chicken Out Supporter,

Thanks so much for signing the pledge, and for offering to get more involved in the campaign.

The response so far has been absolutely fantastic. Click here to see the latest good news.

Now the time has come to take our campaign to the next level, and make sure that the Free Range Fever currently sweeping the nation turns into a lasting commitment from consumers, retailers and suppliers, to change the way that Britain produces chicken. In other words, I still need your help!

There are a number of things I’d like you to do in the coming weeks that I’m convinced will make a real difference to the lasting effect of the campaign, and therefore to the lives of British chickens. You’ll be hearing from me again very soon about these ideas for the campaign, but meanwhile here’s the very first free range challenge! The sooner you can get involved the better – why not get out and have a go this weekend?

Free Range Challenge no 1: Snap your local supermarket!

Whilst Sainsbury’s and Waitrose have reported a massive effect of our programmes and campaign on their free range chicken sales, certain other supermarkets have claimed that we haven’t made much impact on the demand for free range chicken. Yet from all over the country we’re hearing reports that free range chicken is flying off the shelves, wherever it is on sale. If it really is the case that the supermarkets are struggling to supply the increased demand then that’s fantastic – it proves that when consumers are armed the facts they will shop with their conscience. And that is great news for chickens, as supermarkets will ask their suppliers to invest in new free range farms to meet the increased demand.

But we need proof! We need YOU to show us the evidence that Britain really has got Free Range Fever. So when you are next in your local supermarket, please take a picture of their free range poultry section and send it to us. A still or a video clip from your mobile phone will be fine. A digital snap or clip from a video camera is even better. Please also take a close up of any signs explaining why they are out of stock. And then send your shots over to us via email to: campaign@chickenout.tv>. And don’t forget to tell us who you are, and where and when your pictures were taken.

If you’d like to include a short video clip of yourself or a friend explaining why you/they support the campaign, and/or what effect you think we’re having on your local chicken outlets, that would be great too.

We’ll put the best shots and clips up on the Chicken Out! website, and some of them may even feature later in the year – with your permission of course - in our follow up programme about the campaign.

Thanks and happy snapping. I’ll be in touch again VERY soon,

All the best

Hugh

:D

I've done one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eTJaK7NwJ8

I think I might join the River Cottage Forum

Forum (http://forum.rivercottage.net/index.php)

http://www.chickenout.tv/uploads/images/sign_deep.gif

Chicken Out (http://www.chickenout.tv/contact.html)

[mad as a cat]

Hello 'Them'.:)

Well done you,for making a video.:D
Are they your own chickens? They're lovely.:)
The free range chicken is definately being snapped up by conscientious shoppers.YAY !!!!!

[thetonic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA-Aaq5sDBY

[steevo]

I've done one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eTJaK7NwJ8

I think I might join the River Cottage Forum

Forum (http://forum.rivercottage.net/index.php)

http://www.chickenout.tv/uploads/images/sign_deep.gif

Chicken Out (http://www.chickenout.tv/contact.html)

Thanks them, it's nice to see some happy chickens :) makes me hungry :D;):)

[them]

Hello 'Them'.:)

Well done you,for making a video.:D
Are they your own chickens? They're lovely.:)
The free range chicken is definately being snapped up by conscientious shoppers.YAY !!!!!

They are my Chickens :) One of the hens is called Ideologue after a poster from the original Icke forum. She was strictly vegan & I promised that I would never eat that particular hen! It's a shame Ideologue doesn't post here as she spoke a lot of sense regarding farming practices and the unnecessary quantity of meat most people consume in their diet.

Anyway.

I don't go to the super markets much but have noticed an increase in traffic at the farmers markets & farm shops where the free range chicken is also in short supply on the shelves now.

Thanks them, it's nice to see some happy chickens :) makes me hungry :D;):)

These have a fair amount of Bantam in them and roost up in the scrub or apple trees. I'm only gonna keep tree dwellers from now on as it's much more relaxed for the birds, and me.. I have some Gallus gallus (http://www.ensembl.org/Gallus_gallus/index.html) on the way this year so we'll see what happens :)

[steevo]

Ok I have conspiracy head on :-
I find it strange that the mainstream media news NOW seems to be in favour of free range chickens. There could be a variety of reasons for this. I just hope they are not trying to spread the bird flu (cos it will spread easier when they roam free outdoors) to help reduce the population. Cos IMHO I dont think that "the powers that be" REALLY want free range chickens. The sheeple will be screaming FOR battery hens if they are in fear of catching bird flu. I hope I'm wrong :cool:

[them]

Ok I have conspiracy head on :-
I find it strange that the mainstream media news NOW seems to be in favour of free range chickens. There could be a variety of reasons for this. I just hope they are not trying to spread the bird flu (cos it will spread easier when they roam free outdoors) to help reduce the population. Cos IMHO I dont think that "the powers that be" REALLY want free range chickens. The sheeple will be screaming FOR battery hens if they are in fear of catching bird flu. I hope I'm wrong :cool:

The mainstream media is involved because a month or so after chicken out began the supermarkets have lots of chicken they cant sell.

On the very same day, TESCO introduces a £1.99 chicken.

[cheeb]

Tesco under fire for selling chickens for £1.99

by Nikki Sandison Brand Republic 06-Feb-08, 15:45

LONDON - Tesco has been criticised by animal welfare groups and celebrity chef Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall for cutting the price of its standard chicken by 60% to as little as £1.99, in a special one-week offer.

Critics, including animal welfare groups and chefs, have said the price cut will heap pressure on the poultry industry and make it harder to improve the welfare of factory-farmed chickens.

Tesco claims that it is helping people on a tight budget by cutting the price of standard birds from £3.30 to £1.99.
ADVERTISEMENT

The move comes less than a month after the Channel 4 documentary strand investigating chicken production, presented by celebrity chefs Jamie Oliver and Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall.

Fearnley Whittingstall said he was very surprised at Tesco's actions, because everybody was selling out of free-range chicken. He claimed it contradicted what Tesco chief executive Sir Terry Leahy had said last year.

Fearnley Whittingstall said: "To launch a £1.99 chicken is in direct contradiction to a statement Sir Terry Leahy made last summer when he said he didn't want to get into a food price war on chicken."

In his programme 'Jamie's Fowl Dinners', Oliver said that most people expected to be able to buy a chicken for just £2.50, when it should be sold for at least £4.

Animal welfare group Compassion in World Farming, said Tesco's decision was "depressing", following weeks of publicity about the welfare of broiler chickens.

Dr Lesley Lambert, director of research at Compassion in World Farming, said: "Why doesn't Tesco drop their prices on their higher welfare products and make this available to people on all budgets?"

Liars! Liars! Liars!

[them]

http://www.chickenout.tv/uploads/images/fr_challenge_1.gif (http://www.chickenout.tv/free-range-challenge.html)

http://www.chickenout.tv/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=870&page=1#Item_0

[them]

poultryclub.org (http://www.poultryclub.org/home.htm)

http://www.poultryclub.org/logotext.gif

http://www.poultryclub.org/national_bis.jpg
http://www.poultryclub.org/snat_ancona.jpg

The National Championship Show 2008 will be held at Stoneleigh on Saturday 29th November and Sunday 30th November. Schedules will be distributed with the Autumn Newsletter in early September.

http://www.poultryclub.org/barred_scot.jpg

This (http://www.poultryclub.org/home.htm) web site is worth browsing if you're thinking about keeping Chickens. I will meet anybody from this forum at the Stoneleigh Show if they want to talk about Chickens :)

[caddy1]

Animal rights,human rights
One struggle,one fight!!!

Direct action - support the ALF.....

Chefs on tv killing chickens 'nicely' to make it 'acceptable' to the public...
what a pile of meaty faeces!!!!

[them]

Animal rights,human rights
One struggle,one fight!!!

Direct action - support the ALF.....

Chefs on tv killing chickens 'nicely' to make it 'acceptable' to the public...
what a pile of meaty faeces!!!!

Have you joined up just to tell us that? Or is there more?

This thread isn't about liberating chickens, it's about making sure that they get to live as naturalistic lifestyle as possible before we kill them & eat them.

How do you support the ALF Caddy1? What direct action have you been involved in? Fuck all I would imagine..

Practical Poultry Forum (http://www.kelseyinfo.co.uk/yabb/YaBB.pl)

[caddy1]

''Have you joined up just to tell us that? Or is there more?''
(more what????)

What has that got to do with chickens????

Isnt liberating chickens about:
''making sure that they get to live as naturalistic lifestyle as possible...''

And as for explaining what direct action I've been involved in....like shit I'm gonna come on here and say!!!


Thanks for the welcome tho 'them',appreciate it!!!!

[them]

''Have you joined up just to tell us that? Or is there more?''
(more what????)

What has that got to do with chickens????

This thread is concerned with free range chicken farming. Not stopping chicken farming all together.

Isnt liberating chickens about:
''making sure that they get to live as naturalistic lifestyle as possible...''

As I said, we're not talking about liberating chickens. We're talking about the different husbandry methods employed before we eat them.

And as for explaining what direct action I've been involved in....like shit I'm gonna come on here and say!!!

As I thought then. None.


Thanks for the welcome tho 'them',appreciate it!!!!

You're more than welcome :) please deposit more of your meaty feces inside this thread, if feel you compelled to do so.

[caddy1]

''This thread is concerned with free range chicken farming. Not stopping chicken farming all together.''

hehehehehe.....stopping chicken farming is concerned with chicken farming bird brain hehehehehehehehe!!!!!

[them]

I'm sorry, I really haven't a clue what you mean :)

[them]

I've had some Bantam eggs in an incubator for about ten days

Here they are

http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08100/icke_egg954.jpg

This is what a fertile egg looks like when you shine a Maglite into it

Can you see the blood vessels?

http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08100/egg_icke2752.jpg

In this one the dark blob center left is the embryos body core, the darkest bit of all being the heart

http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08100/egg_icke3744.jpg

[paganus]

Have you joined up just to tell us that? Or is there more?

This thread isn't about liberating chickens, it's about making sure that they get to live as naturalistic lifestyle as possible before we kill them & eat them.

How do you support the ALF Caddy1? What direct action have you been involved in? Fuck all I would imagine..

Practical Poultry Forum (http://www.kelseyinfo.co.uk/yabb/YaBB.pl)
while people still eat them,there will always be those that exploit them. battery farming=more profit.want to stop it? become vegetarian/vegan.

[them]

while people still eat them,there will always be those that exploit them. battery farming=more profit.want to stop it? become vegetarian/vegan.

I would agree that if one personally wishes to avoid any responsibility for the deaths of mammal or piscine creatures, a vegan diet is the way forward.

Vegetarianism seems a bit of a woolly definition to me. A kind of.. I don't mind if fish die but I do mind if a bird dies.

A healthy balanced omnivorous diet which includes meat & fish occasionally is my choice.

[raffles]

signed. i kept chickens when i was a kid, i hate to see this treatment of animals it really pisses me off

[paganus]

I would agree that if one personally wishes to avoid any responsibility for the deaths of mammal or piscine creatures, a vegan diet is the way forward.

Vegetarianism seems a bit of a woolly definition to me. A kind of.. I don't mind if fish die but I do mind if a bird dies.

A healthy balanced omnivorous diet which includes meat & fish occasionally is my choice.vegetarians dont eat fish.a fish is not a vegetable...

[them]

vegetarians dont eat fish.a fish is not a vegetable...

A lot of vegetarians do eat fish; the Indians, for example, call fishes the Aubergines of the Sea.. Lot's of vegetarians also indulge themselves with dairy produce and live in denial regarding the realities of the dairy cycle. Diet is about individual choice.

Do you have any comments to make regarding the specifics of the campaign?