View Full Version : sun god occult
antiem
11-01-2008, 05:15 PM
I'm pretty sure there MUST be a thread somewhere to explain me the thing with the sun god occult, but I just can't find it!
So can PLEASE someone take the time to explain me why the illuminati are praying to the sun god, as I understand the sun as life-giving and am VERY confused! :confused:
(Sorry for my English, it's not my mother language, I'm Swiss)
Thank you so much!
mariag
11-01-2008, 10:09 PM
HERE COMES THE SON OF THE SUN GOD - YouTube
A little hint:D
paganus
12-01-2008, 07:55 AM
I'm pretty sure there MUST be a thread somewhere to explain me the thing with the sun god occult, but I just can't find it!
So can PLEASE someone take the time to explain me why the illuminati are praying to the sun god, as I understand the sun as life-giving and am VERY confused! :confused:
(Sorry for my English, it's not my mother language, I'm Swiss)
Thank you so much!hijacking of symbolism imo.if you take symbolism of something good,and twist it.you deny its use to others.
kasalt
12-01-2008, 09:21 AM
So far as I understand it, the theory goes something like this:
Ancient knowledge of astronomy / astrology was harnessed to create astrotheology, i.e., religion based on the planets, stars, and other celestial objects in the heavens, and their movements. We, the masses, are duped into believing the literal narrative of religion for purposes of control. At least, I think that's how the theory goes; someone correct me or elaborate further if I'm off the mark please.
Here are a couple of youtube videos to help make the point clearer:
Sun of God? - YouTube
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
antiem
13-01-2008, 12:50 PM
Thank you very much! So, the sun DOES mean "good things"; I still don't get the "twist", why would they use sun symbols and even pray to the sun god? They have plenty of "bad" gods, don't they.
To turn it around, I wouldn't pray to satan in a good way, just because he's bad and I am looking for a "good god". Do you see where I'm stuck?
phildee3
13-01-2008, 10:46 PM
So far as I understand it, the theory goes something like this:
Ancient knowledge of astronomy / astrology was harnessed to create astrotheology, i.e., religion based on the planets, stars, and other celestial objects in the heavens, and their movements. We, the masses, are duped into believing the literal narrative of religion for purposes of control. At least, I think that's how the theory goes; someone correct me or elaborate further if I'm off the mark please.
Well, I don't know whose theory this is but I was under ther impression that a much more widely accepted one is that worship of astronomical objects/phenomena far predates any systematic study of them.
And that our instinct to resort to worshipping things is much more basic than our need to understand them.
...or am I off the mark??
bigus_dickus
14-01-2008, 03:56 AM
Well, I don't know whose theory this is but I was under ther impression that a much more widely accepted one is that worship of astronomical objects/phenomena far predates any systematic study of them.
it wasn't worship in the religious sense, it was a sense of connection between the sky observed by the people and the events happening on the earth's surface. after all, it's day when you see something you call the sun, it's night when you see something you call the moon and a remarkable feast of stars. moreover, the only way to tell the time of the day or night, to consider duration and have predictions for changes of climate for example, or simply for when the night falls and when the day breaks, was to observe the sky, as they haven't had invented clocks yet. now we have clocks, we pay minimum attention to celestial phenomena, we are only interested in our telescopes because they 'see' farther and make new discoveries.
*btw the visible stars with the naked eye are a fixed number of some 5,000, a very tiny fraction of what there is and it depends on where you are observing from. for example, when people started gathering in cities, the number of visible stars got reduced considerably and continued to reduce with time. and note that we only see stars and planets reflecting stars, not planets or "dark stars" that emit light in different frequencies that we can perceive.
furthermore, on the topic, christianity teaches that God made the sun, so God is not the sun. it teaches that God created everything, visible and invisible (including "dark matter", which is not dark, just invisible to us, but we call it dark because we don't see any visible to us light reflecting from it).
therefore, the notion "God's sun" doesn't make any sense in the christian religion, because everything is God's and everything is God and to make that claim, would mean that God did not create everything, but he just put the sun there for us.
astrotheology derives from astrology (not astronomy, these two started and got developed together, but took different directions), mixed with figurative and arbitrary interpretations of the scriptures to somehow validate it.