Cant wake anyone up even the slightest

[dirtyburrito]

Feel depressed and helpless because i cant wake anyone up even the slightest bit. Im at my mothers this weekend and was hoping i could show my mother and sister the films 911 ripple effect, policestate 4 and david ickes the lion sleeps no more. My mother seemed shocked at 911 ripple effect wich she actually saw yesterday, but today its like it never happend. I also showed her the clip named "they want to trigger world war 3" with david icke talking. Its a strong clip but my mother said this is pure propaganda. :( and thats the theme ive noticed, people seem to brace themselfs and are on extreme defensive when u try to show them something. Like they think they are being conned or tricked into joining a weird sect or something. Like my mother completely misunderstanding the clip i showed her. Nothing exists in the world unless its being talked about by talking heads on tv. Everythings fine, government is good, you are being paranoid and gollable, dont belive everything you hear are things you hear from the "sleepers" its like they actively dont want to wake up. Yesterday i just wished david icke could step in and explain things for my family in a much better way then i can. I think that unfortunatly i have to give up trying to even wake up anyone cos its too frustrating and depressing seeing family rather watch tv then the importent alex jones and david icke films i prepped their computer with. And the outright suspicion towards david icke just cos i praised him so much... Gotta stop now, just have to let it go and realize i cant do nothing at all except see the world go to hell and have the opportunity to say "told u so but u wouldnt listen"...

[ragnarok]

Don't try so hard, fella. Rome wasn't built in a day, n all that.

[saty]

Humans are a virus,a cancer of this planet and we are the cure:)

[neutrino]

I recently spoke to a guy from India on Omeagle and I think I managed to open his mind to new possibilities.

[martg]

Feel depressed and helpless because i cant wake anyone up even the slightest bit. Im at my mothers this weekend and was hoping i could show my mother and sister the films 911 ripple effect, policestate 4 and david ickes the lion sleeps no more. My mother seemed shocked at 911 ripple effect wich she actually saw yesterday, but today its like it never happend. I also showed her the clip named "they want to trigger world war 3" with david icke talking. Its a strong clip but my mother said this is pure propaganda. :( and thats the theme ive noticed, people seem to brace themselfs and are on extreme defensive when u try to show them something. Like they think they are being conned or tricked into joining a weird sect or something. Like my mother completely misunderstanding the clip i showed her. Nothing exists in the world unless its being talked about by talking heads on tv. Everythings fine, government is good, you are being paranoid and gollable, dont belive everything you hear are things you hear from the "sleepers" its like they actively dont want to wake up. Yesterday i just wished david icke could step in and explain things for my family in a much better way then i can. I think that unfortunatly i have to give up trying to even wake up anyone cos its too frustrating and depressing seeing family rather watch tv then the importent alex jones and david icke films i prepped their computer with. And the outright suspicion towards david icke just cos i praised him so much... Gotta stop now, just have to let it go and realize i cant do nothing at all except see the world go to hell and have the opportunity to say "told u so but u wouldnt listen"...

I've been trying for a long time with various people, with mixed results, so if you are interested I will offer a few insights about where I went wrong.

don't try and wake people up all in one go, you are essentially telling people that everything they ever believed in is a lie and people will fight to keep belief systems as a sop to their ego.

I wouldn't recommend sitting people down and showing them documentaries, they will be of a mindset that 'someone is telling me what to think' whereas when we search for these things for ourselves we are looking to learn so we are in a different mindset.

Imho the best way is to just talk to people about their thoughts on subjects and give little interesting facts that may make them look into the subject for themselves.

[infinite tea]

Do your research and become an expert.....you don't need to preach just point out the facts, there are enough facts to cast doubt on the official version of reality ;-)

[truth01]

Humans are a virus,a cancer of this planet and we are the cure:)

Everyone should know that the precious E.U is the first step to one world gov, it should be common knowledge but unfortunately people are programmed only to believe the very people they distrust the most......Our inglorious politicians

[thoreau]

why do you want to wake people up? surely you wouldnt want to impose your views on them?

Surely it is everyones right to believe what they want to? This waking people up thing sounds very evangelical.

[martg]

why do you want to wake people up? surely you wouldnt want to impose your views on them?

Surely it is everyones right to believe what they want to? This waking people up thing sounds very evangelical.

If it weren't for people sharing information we would all still be living in ignorance, there's nothing wrong with presenting information to people, as long as we accept the right they have to disagree or ignore that information.

[truth01]

If it weren't for people sharing information we would all still be living in ignorance, there's nothing wrong with presenting information to people, as long as we accept the right they have to disagree or ignore that information.

You have just stated that there is no point

[martg]

You have just stated that there is no point

no I didn't, did you bother reading what I wrote?
as I said you can't tell people what to think, but you can present information to people in conversation.
and the most effective way is to interest people into looking into subjects themselves.

[hadabusa]

dont start convincing them with "chemtrails", only use that if you can tell they are dumb.and gullible.

[thoreau]

If it weren't for people sharing information we would all still be living in ignorance, there's nothing wrong with presenting information to people, as long as we accept the right they have to disagree or ignore that information.

I agree that sharing information is awesome - but the op is complaining not that they are unable to share information but that others viewpoints are not being changed.

I was asking why the need to change others views to match ones own when we do not want others to impose their viewpoint on ourselves?

[dirtyburrito]

Well i guess one thing we can agree on is that trying to wake ppl up to the fact that the world is not the way ppl think it is, is pretty hard. Dont know where alex jones and david icke get their energy and ability to wake ppl up.

[thoreau]

Well i guess one thing we can agree on is that trying to wake ppl up to the fact that the world is not the way ppl think it is, is pretty hard. Dont know where alex jones and david icke get their energy and ability to wake ppl up.

Am sure I can think of £1 or $2 reasons...

[rainbowdrop]

I can feel your sadness & frustration OP. I felt like that too at one point until I realised it wasn't my job to wake people up.
To try & force my views on other people made me no better than the Elites for forcing their way of life on me. Instead I have learnt that I am here to sow the seed.
The awakening is a journey we all have to take in our own way......some start with chemtrails....... others start with GM......banking system. We all have our own individual start & finish which some parts we need to do alone & when we are ready. Think of yourself as a guide.......sow the seeds........the rest of their journey is up to them. Be ready to help & guide them when they ask you.......which they will.
If the whole world woke up at the same time,we would have chaos,a few of us have awoken early to help sow the seeds.
Lots of love & peace to you my friend.xxx

[domathy]

On the subject of awakening
"you cannot give what you do not have"

[oilydoyley]

the journey is what self experiences.

we can normally learn from others and take a little here
and there but it us through our thoughts that create
our own reality.

leave them be and work on yourself

[goodvibrations]

Humans are a virus,a cancer of this planet and we are the cure:)

That sounds worrying megalomaniacal.

And not a little contradictory (unless you yourself are not fully human?)

[infinite tea]

why do you want to wake people up? surely you wouldnt want to impose your views on them?

Surely it is everyones right to believe what they want to? This waking people up thing sounds very evangelical.

Because it is "asleep" people who allow this shite system to carry on which causes life to be worse than it should be.

Your post is hypocritical - you are imposing your judgement on the OP whilst saying it is wrong to impose your views???? Education is not an imposition, and education about the truth is liberation.

[thoreau]

Because it is "asleep" people who allow this shite system to carry on which causes life to be worse than it should be.

Your post is hypocritical - you are imposing your judgement on the OP whilst saying it is wrong to impose your views???? Education is not an imposition, and education about the truth is liberation.

I am giving an opinion - I am imposing nothing - people are free to agree or disagree or think nothing further about my post or views.

[infinite tea]

I am giving an opinion - I am imposing nothing - people are free to agree or disagree or think nothing further about my post or views.

Ditto.......:D

[lesleypumpshaft]

There are none so blind as those who will not see, or something like that, it's pretty obvious that a lot of stuff in this world isn't right. If people don't want to acknowledge that, you can't really make them, so relax :)

[crisitunity]

if it was easy mate Jesus would of had us all sorted out thousands of years ago...:p




but yes I empathise, people are desperatly ignorant. I had very little success myself, but I still gently nudge whenever I have the oppertunity. The thing is, I've been very consistant over the last half a decade, some people around me are finnaly and just barely starting to wonder what I'm talking about.

Its far from genuine interest of course, but it is a start. :)

[earthicastar]

family are the hardest to reach and you could feel very depressed ...

my own adult children, cant even be around me because they are afraid of the unknown... it is the scariest thing in the world for them... that is why you can not wake them up... think of if you woke up .. to a nightmare... wouldnt you rather stay asleep?

this is what it is like for them... to have their illusions and reality completely shattered, would leave them in this state... they can't wake up

I know it hurts because you want to save them, you love them

if they are meant to awaken, even a little bit, then something will click in for them ... it may or may not come from you, but elsewhere

seek those who WANT to wake up... you'll recognize them...
it will give you purpose... your family will see that you have a purpose... they will come to you... if and when they are ready

you do want to avoid waking any of the hungry wolves tho... let them keep hibernating

[listener]

Am sure I can think of £1 or $2 reasons...

The purpose of life is a life of purpose maybe !

[equinoxboy]

There is a psychological model in Social Pedagogy which is used to help traumatised young people to grow. It also is of great value when working with closed minded adults. Here it is;
We all have a Comfort Zone. This is the place where we feel safe and is where we retreat to when we feel unsafe.
Outside this, we have a Learning Zone and outside this, we have a Panic Zone.

When trying to help someone to grow, we encourage them to enter their Learning Zone. If we draw them too far, we pull them into their Panic Zone and they will swiftly, possibly violently, retreat to their Comfort Zone.

What we need to understand is that some people's Learning Zones are very thin. By drawing them out into their Panic Zones, we only reinforce their belief that the world is a scary and threatening place.
Start with very small attempts to draw people into their Learning Zone. The Learning Zone is where we grow and small steps lead to great results. If you are still taking them too far, try even smaller. Using this method, you will one day be able to stand together with them in territory which would once have been so far into their Panic Zone that they couldn't even begin to comprehend it. You will also find that you have expanded your own Learning Zone in the process. As ever, gentle Love and Understanding are the keys to our emancipation.

[ellis_deatrip]

Once one “wake’s up”, the natural urge is to wake everyone else up around you. Sometimes that approach works, usually not. To truly be free, you have to let other people be free; even if that means letting them sleep .
Basically it is a futile effort. Besides, It's not my job. I think it would be more effective to just find the others (http://gofindtheothers.com/) who have already set forth on that path to find....(Damn I hate this word)"Truth".
I no longer try to expose others of any "alternative" or critical information in hopes of them having an epiphany. Actually , I've even seen the whole,"Wake-up" process backfire. Before that, I never understood where the "paranoid delusional" stereotype that is tagged on Conspiracy research came from.

"The Truth", I’ve come to learn, isn’t a ‘destination’ to be reached, but the Journey itself. Remember, Information is not Knowledge,Knowledge is not Wisdom,Wisdom is not truth, truth is not beauty.beauty is not love:rolleyes:

[princessofwands]

All belief systems are a community of thoughts that live in your aura.

If someone injects new thoughts, it's as if strangers rode into town and started to demolish your buildings. You're going to put up a fight, aren't you?

You can only slip into other people's minds what is vibrationally and thematically a bit similar to what is there. That's why you have to start with tiny steps over their boundaries and hope that your little bits of information might stick.

David Icke talked about the totalitarian tip-toe. Well, we need to tip-toe into other people's belief structures.

And remember that all thoughts are part of the Matrix and form the Matrix Mind. Even the New Age and Truth movements are vast thought-form complexes that are trying to expand themselves and gain new converts like octopuses putting out tentacles.

I think that if you work on inner silence and the new meditation at 9.30pm that David has just suggested, you might actually send out more helpful vibes that will bring the whole Matrix crashing down...including the rigid belief-systems of your family.

:D