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starschildren
27-06-2011, 11:58 PM
My contribution for the month... move if and where you see fit.

Just a listing of a few, with a few links where available.
Enjoy, and remember, you really are safe on the surface (as long as all the psychopaths remain underground in their bases twiddling their thumbs---after all, we have enough on the surface to deal with already).


New York City (near Midtown Manhattan are entrances)
Nahanni Valley (Canada)
Liyobaa Cave (an entrance, supposedly sealed off by Catholic Priests)
Maltese Cave (entrance)
Staffordshire (entrance)
Dulce, NM
Death Valley
Mt. Shasta
Brown Mountain (entrance)
Lake Ontario (possible underwater entrance - Oakville and Toronto, lots of reported activity)
Toronto (entrance)
Newfoundland (Iron Mine entrance)
Brazil (near Ponte Grosse in Parana - entrance also in Rincon, Parana - Also in Santa Catarina)
The whole of Arizona (I often stomp my foot on the ground and ask if they can hear me yet)
Pine Gap (Alice Springs, Australia)
Wright Air Force Base (Dayton, Ohio)
Groom Lake (also known as Area 51 in Nevada)
Papoose Lake Complex (Nevada)
S-4 (said to be southwest corner of Area 51)
Dreamland (Data Repository Establishment & Maintenance, under Groom Mountains - said to be controlled by Greys)
Groom Facility (said to contain thousands of alien craft parts)
Dougway, Utah (shuttle link between Dreamland and Dulce (D&D))
Page, Arizona (shuttle system between D&D)
Mercury, Nevada (shuttle link between D&D)
Burley, Idaho
Denver International Airport (huge, multilevel city under the airport)
Oklahoma City (multi-level base and underground shuttle system link between D&D)
Madigan, Fort Lewis, WA
Lakeport-Hopland, Montana
Lassen & Deep Springs, CA (it is connect via shuttle link to Mercury, Burley, Dougway, Page, Denver, Oklahoma City, Taos NM, Datil NM, Colorado Springs, Creede CO, Sandia CO, Carlsbad NM, and extends into a global system of tunnels and sub-cities)
Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM (Genetics research and bio-technology focused on mind control programing, genetics engineering, and DNA mapping)
Edwards Air Forse Base, Mojave Desert, CA (extends as far as 2 miles down)
Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica
Alsace-Lorraine Mountaines (area of France-Germany)
Panamint Mountains region, CA (Federation base... Andro, Pleiadian, Nordic)
Camp Hero near Montauk Point, Long Island, NY (8 level base, connects to the ITT center in New Jersey... and from there to the sub-global network)
Underwater Base (off coast of Florida and Peru)
Plumas National Forest (Northern CA)
Ehachapi, CA
Kirtland Air Force Base (in the Manzano Mountain range of south Kirtland, AFB)
Blue Lake, NM
Norton AFB, CA
SE Dulce, Durango, CO, Taos, NM and Los Alamos (craft storage)
Brecon Beacons in Wales
Snowy Mountains, Australia
Nyala range, Africa
West Kindu, Africa
Libyan border in Egypt
Mount Blanc, Switzerland
Narvik, Scandinavia
Gottland island, Sweden


China and India both know about an underground base in the Himalayan border area, down deep near the tectonic plates (read (http://think-aboutit.com/thinkdocs/index.php/articles/under-the-ground/underground-bases/119-china-and-india-both-know-about-underground-ufo-base-in-the-himalayan-border-area-deep-into-the-tectonic-plates))

Alex Christopher photos from beneath Denver International Airport (read (http://think-aboutit.com/thinkdocs/index.php/articles/under-the-ground/underground-bases/2502-secret-alex-christopher-photos-from-beneath-denver-international-airport))

Underground Bases lecture by Phil Schnieder (read (http://www.mt.net/~watcher/phils.html))

cybersurf
29-06-2011, 05:10 AM
My contribution for the month... move if and where you see fit.

Just a listing of a few, with a few links where available.
Enjoy, and remember, you really are safe on the surface (as long as all the psychopaths remain underground in their bases twiddling their thumbs---after all, we have enough on the surface to deal with already).


New York City (near Midtown Manhattan are entrances)
Nahanni Valley (Canada)
Liyobaa Cave (an entrance, supposedly sealed off by Catholic Priests)
Maltese Cave (entrance)
Staffordshire (entrance)
Dulce, NM
Death Valley
Mt. Shasta
Brown Mountain (entrance)
Lake Ontario (possible underwater entrance - Oakville and Toronto, lots of reported activity)
Toronto (entrance)
Newfoundland (Iron Mine entrance)
Brazil (near Ponte Grosse in Parana - entrance also in Rincon, Parana - Also in Santa Catarina)
The whole of Arizona (I often stomp my foot on the ground and ask if they can hear me yet)
Pine Gap (Alice Springs, Australia)
Wright Air Force Base (Dayton, Ohio)
Groom Lake (also known as Area 51 in Nevada)
Papoose Lake Complex (Nevada)
S-4 (said to be southwest corner of Area 51)
Dreamland (Data Repository Establishment & Maintenance, under Groom Mountains - said to be controlled by Greys)
Groom Facility (said to contain thousands of alien craft parts)
Dougway, Utah (shuttle link between Dreamland and Dulce (D&D))
Page, Arizona (shuttle system between D&D)
Mercury, Nevada (shuttle link between D&D)
Burley, Idaho
Denver International Airport (huge, multilevel city under the airport)
Oklahoma City (multi-level base and underground shuttle system link between D&D)
Madigan, Fort Lewis, WA
Lakeport-Hopland, Montana
Lassen & Deep Springs, CA (it is connect via shuttle link to Mercury, Burley, Dougway, Page, Denver, Oklahoma City, Taos NM, Datil NM, Colorado Springs, Creede CO, Sandia CO, Carlsbad NM, and extends into a global system of tunnels and sub-cities)
Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM (Genetics research and bio-technology focused on mind control programing, genetics engineering, and DNA mapping)
Edwards Air Forse Base, Mojave Desert, CA (extends as far as 2 miles down)
Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica
Alsace-Lorraine Mountaines (area of France-Germany)
Panamint Mountains region, CA (Federation base... Andro, Pleiadian, Nordic)
Camp Hero near Montauk Point, Long Island, NY (8 level base, connects to the ITT center in New Jersey... and from there to the sub-global network)
Underwater Base (off coast of Florida and Peru)
Plumas National Forest (Northern CA)
Ehachapi, CA
Kirtland Air Force Base (in the Manzano Mountain range of south Kirtland, AFB)
Blue Lake, NM
Norton AFB, CA
SE Dulce, Durango, CO, Taos, NM and Los Alamos (craft storage)
Brecon Beacons in Wales
Snowy Mountains, Australia
Nyala range, Africa
West Kindu, Africa
Libyan border in Egypt
Mount Blanc, Switzerland
Narvik, Scandinavia
Gottland island, Sweden


China and India both know about an underground base in the Himalayan border area, down deep near the tectonic plates (read (http://think-aboutit.com/thinkdocs/index.php/articles/under-the-ground/underground-bases/119-china-and-india-both-know-about-underground-ufo-base-in-the-himalayan-border-area-deep-into-the-tectonic-plates))

Alex Christopher photos from beneath Denver International Airport (read (http://think-aboutit.com/thinkdocs/index.php/articles/under-the-ground/underground-bases/2502-secret-alex-christopher-photos-from-beneath-denver-international-airport))

Underground Bases lecture by Phil Schnieder (read (http://www.mt.net/~watcher/phils.html))

God! Thanks. Poped in in one of them by chance?

Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/3938516003.01._SX240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

indolering
29-06-2011, 05:43 AM
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Thanks, stars, this is a fascinating subject, and I'm surprised there's not more interest. These underground and underwater bases are an important part of the NWO arsenal, and Schneider's descriptions of the lower levels are not for the faint of heart. I hope this thread draws some good comments and research. :cool:

cybersurf
29-06-2011, 07:18 PM
New York City (near Midtown Manhattan are entrances)

New York City
There is an entrance to the tunnels in New York City "in the vicinity of Midtown Manhattan that can be reached through an abandoned elevator shaft that only very few know about

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicunder.html

http://www.aaccessmaps.com/images/maps/us/ny/manhattan_midtown/manhattan_midtown.gif

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/images/john_d_rockefeller4.jpg


NEW YORK New York, New York Function unknown Tunnels to: Capitol Building, D.C.

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dumb.htm

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQVR9PTT-WCmSLFuyM6RwxPHNTpbRJd6SnALEsZBMd8x6RfF84nA&t=1

mrindigo
29-06-2011, 08:28 PM
Interesting thread. I seem to recall some claims about bases in the Himalayas. I found a news article about it. I don't know how reputable it is, it may not be.

China and India both know about underground UFO base in the Himalayan border area

According to the few local people on the Indian and Chinese sides, this is where the UFOs are seen coming out of the ground, According to many, the UFO underground bases are in this region and both the Indian and Chinese Government know this very well..

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/01-09a-05.asp

On a related note, apparently the Indian government started building bunkers for top leaders in 2003.

India building nuclear-proof bunkers for top leaders

NEW DELHI: The Indian government has begun building several hi-tech bunkers to enable its top leadership, including Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, to survive a possible nuclear attack, official sources said.

http://www.siliconindia.com/shownews/India_building_nuclearproof_bunkers_for_top_leader s___-nid-20887.html

cybersurf
30-06-2011, 05:06 AM
For some reason the Crockodiles keep showing up.

Secret Alex Christopher photos from beneath Denver International Airport


October 30, 2009

In 1994, Alex Christopher and Phil Schneider gained access to the underground facilities beneath Denver International Airport before it officially opened.

Below are some of the photos they took, along with commentary written by Ms. Christopher in 1995:

DIA_underground1

All of the following pictures are of the underground area at the Denver International Airport. Most of the areas are not being used, dead baggage equipment, long highways, many chain link fences and locked up fences that lead to lower levels and to what I know not. Many large open areas are not being used. Many large fenced in areas are not being used.

DIA_underground2

[Phil Schneider is] an engineer who had been involved for many years working in construction for the Industrial Defense Complex building giant “Deep Underground Bases.” He told me that he had been offered the position of head engineer for the construction of the base that was to go under the new Denver International Airport back in the early 80s.

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[Phil Schneider] pointed out many things to me, such as, on the lowest level we could go into in the underground was very hot, not cool like a basement. He said it was hot because there were many level below it and the heat from there was rising from below us.

DIA_underground3

As told to me by a person that worked with one of the construction companies, there are five secret underground buildings with a depth of from 75 to 120 feet on each one, all with interconnecting tunnels to each other and with 2.50 to 3.00 mile long and 16 feet wide. I have even been told of a huge forty foot diameter tunnel that was already constructed and in place in this area and is believed to connect with “Dreamland.”

DIA_underground16

DIA_underground4

He looked at the electrical panels as we passed them and a crew of electricains were working on the panesl and he said they were N.S.A. and that the size of the panels would indicate that there were at least eight levels below this lowest level and that we were on in the the Denver International Airport underground.

DIA_underground6

I will tell you this–it is strange down there under Denver Airport. This airport underground puts out a set of feelings. I can’t tell you if what I am picking up there are things that are going on underground in that area at this time, or if I am picking up what has happened there in the future which we have not arrived at yet.

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[There are] two secret runways longer than any of DIA’s runways. A source who worked for Bechtel Corp, who helped build these told of the $50 million high tech runways that were built in the wrong place in 1990 and then covered up with about 4 inches of dirt. (They will possibly uncover them someday soon to be used.)

DIA_underground7

[Schneider] said the [plans] for the complex were for hundreds of miles of underground roads, all connecting with high-speed bullet trains that can go at “Mach” speeds. He also went on to tell me that most of these bases are now jointly occupied by humans and either ancient earth races or alien races. According to him, these underground bases are to serve many different purposes, such as medical research labs, prisons, work camps, military accommodations, food storage, etc.

DIA_underground17

[Schneider] told me about the time when he was in the battle in an underground cavern where they accidentally broke into a nest of the large grays aliens. The one thing that I remember so well is the description of the large gray’s eyes.

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He said that in the fight with them, one of them that he killed, the eye shields popped and and revealed yellow snake eyes with the up and down type of pupil like a reptilian.

DIA_underground9

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He also discussed the underground bases/prison camps. He said there are thousands of children being used in these underground prison camps and that when they are physically all used up and can not go on, that the nasty Draco’s kill, slaughter and eat them on the spot.

DIA_underground18

DIA_underground12

The part of the covert government/CIA etc. that are involved with the underground bases that are jointly occupied with these agents and negative aliens have been for years working together to create a most deadly biological/germ warfare product. They have found that by using glandular secretions from the aliens to create the biological weapon that is totally deadly to humans while it has not effect on the aliens. And of course there is no antidote or if there is, the government is the only one with it.

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[Below] is a picture of one of the long four sided concrete tunnels at the Denver International Airport that runs along adjacent to the tram tunnels. There is only one entrance into this concrete tunnel under DIA from the tram tunnels. One end is open in the working areas of the underground and at the very end of the tunnel where the line ends at Concorse C, there you will find a huge steel door that is large enough for a dump truck to enter. The steel doors open onto 55 square miles of open flat empty land that could be used for anything.

DIA_underground21

I hope you can sleep well knowing this information, as for myself, I sleep very little. –Alex Christopher.

http://think-aboutit.com/thinkdocs/index.php/articles/under-the-ground/underground-bases/2502-secret-alex-christopher-photos-from-beneath-denver-international-airport

Leonora Carrington's gift to Brittain:

http://www.noticiasmvs.com/media/fotos/d41cb7bd0624d7a9e3e0340977911eae.jpg

dawnbreak
30-06-2011, 05:10 AM
it is interesting you have had scientologists reply to your posts :rolleyes:

It is a good subject but you will never have a debate with a scientoliogist in the room

cybersurf
30-06-2011, 05:21 AM
it is interesting you have had scientologists reply to your posts :rolleyes:

It is a good subject but you will never have a debate with a scientoliogist in the room

Who are the scientologists?

Who is the one I would have a debate with in ??? the room??? What is the room?

busa
30-06-2011, 09:57 AM
How many government buildings have multiple levels of basement connected to the underground bases ?

Being in the "building" I saw plans online for the new US Embassy building built in Iraq which had 20 levels of basement.

lotusrose
30-06-2011, 10:05 AM
Thx star child.. I been thinking bout this for the last 3 days. Not to mention the seed volt HAHAHA... with all the rich and PHD's to be gathered in the undergroud and as smart as they all are forgot one thing!!!!
Goes to show how dumb they really are!!

lotusrose
30-06-2011, 10:13 AM
It is really funny how all the Elite in goverment will walk out and hide along with the weathly scum bags and the royals to only hide undergroud. They forgot one thing didnt they all! One thing those on the pay roll forgot to tell them!!

cluas
30-06-2011, 10:36 AM
There is many old threads on this subject...
Very informative, some of them :

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=112416

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=94868

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=103058

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=124225

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=20763

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=40590

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=139469


Many more, use the search function to find many exciting threads :)

rreeve
30-06-2011, 12:40 PM
As a schoolkid me and one of my mates were lucky enough to sneak into a massive underground network of huge tunnels under South London. These tunnels were way deeper than the underground tube network as it took us about 45mins - 1 hour of walking down a spiral staircase to get to the bottom. At the bottom there was a network of HUGE half dome tunnels and at the end of every tunnel there was room with about 6-10 doors, each with another tunnel behind it.
We were down there exploring all day and we would have easily got lost if we didn't leave the lights on behind us and prop open doors with fire-extinguishers. There was easily hundreds and hundreds of tunnels all connected into a massive network but what made it even weirder now thinking back is the amount of tunnels that had rows of bunk-bed frames along each side. Some tunnels had stacks of boxes containing tons of medical type files and in hindsight I wish I had looked at these a bit more but I was only a 14-15 year old kid who was more interested in exploring and messing about with fire-extinguishers.

All the entrances to this huge network of tunnels are in round-stone buildings that are situated next to many tube stations in south-london.

Here is the entrance that we managed to get into at Clapham south tube station:


http://realitybomb.com/ads/tunnel.jpg

If you look at most south london tube stations, you will usually always see one of these round stone building very close by which shows you exactly how large this underground network of tunnels is. Personally I believe they are built near to tube stations as a good cover story by saying they are connected to the tube network but I know for a fact they are not. They are so much deeper than any tube. In fact, while we was walking down the spiral staircase we could hear exactly how deep the tube lines were in comparison and by the time we got to the bottom, any tube train overhead was a very distant noise. It may also explain why nearly EVERY tube maintenance budget gets massively over-spent.

mountain
30-06-2011, 01:59 PM
As a schoolkid me and one of my mates were lucky enough to sneak into a massive underground network of huge tunnels under South London. These tunnels were way deeper than the underground tube network as it took us about 45mins - 1 hour of walking down a spiral staircase to get to the bottom. At the bottom there was a network of HUGE half dome tunnels and at the end of every tunnel there was room with about 6-10 doors, each with another tunnel behind it.
We were down there exploring all day and we would have easily got lost if we didn't leave the lights on behind us and prop open doors with fire-extinguishers. There was easily hundreds and hundreds of tunnels all connected into a massive network but what made it even weirder now thinking back is the amount of tunnels that had rows of bunk-bed frames along each side. Some tunnels had stacks of boxes containing tons of medical type files and in hindsight I wish I had looked at these a bit more but I was only a 14-15 year old kid who was more interested in exploring and messing about with fire-extinguishers.

All the entrances to this huge network of tunnels are in round-stone buildings that are situated next to many tube stations in south-london.

Here is the entrance that we managed to get into at Clapham south tube station:


http://realitybomb.com/ads/tunnel.jpg

If you look at most south london tube stations, you will usually always see one of these round stone building very close by which shows you exactly how large this underground network of tunnels is. Personally I believe they are built near to tube stations as a good cover story by saying they are connected to the tube network but I know for a fact they are not. They are so much deeper than any tube. In fact, while we was walking down the spiral staircase we could hear exactly how deep the tube lines were in comparison and by the time we got to the bottom, any tube train overhead was a very distant noise. It may also explain why nearly EVERY tube maintenance budget gets massively over-spent.

WOW thanks for sharing this! It reminds me of where I live and how the subway systems have natural caverns all woven around them. There are some lil station houses similar to the ones you posted and I am guessing they can be entrances to something deep underground.

Also, I have found upon looking at google maps, there are many underground entrances right on air force bases around North America. They are very easy to spot if you know what you are looking at.

starschildren
30-06-2011, 03:23 PM
I figured it was natural to assume every military base had underground sections of it. It's the ones that are normally missing the military base above that need more explaining (like reeve's tube station attachment, the tunnels he got into as a kid).

The Bush family farm in Texas supposedly has an entire underground network as well, entrance through the barn. Anyone ever noticed that there is a no fly zone over the property? That and they're (at least Bush Sr.) the biggest drug dealers in the US.

Also worth mentioning is the tunnels that run under the border from Mexico to Arizona (and probably California, New Mexico, and Texas as well). These tunnels are huge, some big enough to take an entire truck through (look very government tunnelish) and yet they try to lay blame to the drug lords...spent yesterday yelling at the TV for various reasons, this was one of them. I highly doubt the tunnels, with their size and cleanly cemented sides/top, were dug out by a bunch of Mexicans with shovels. I'd say the government put them in for easier transport, and the drug lords are allowed to use them for more than handing the goods over to gov officials.

Another similar one were these two underground warehouses. One was housing highly classified government documents in an underground mine (salt mine supposedly) in Kansas that is right under the fields of corn. Also houses old Hollywood movie reels. Then another one in Indiana I think, had pallet upon pallet of MRE's stocked up (and I mean millions of MRE's).

I forgot to specify the one underground base (or section of the Arizona base) that you can get to from various spots in Sedona. One of the entrances is in Boynton Canyon. And that canyon is middle of nowhere, nothing around, just sand and dirt, a few rocks. Stories of being escorted out of the canyon at gun point are common, military seemly popping up out of nowhere is also common. There is another one along the edges of the highway, the government is hiding a gate of some kind inside a building (a building you'd think was normal). Lots of military/government activity there.

ragnarok
30-06-2011, 03:30 PM
Interesting thread, gang. Keep it up.

girlgye
30-06-2011, 03:38 PM
As a schoolkid me and one of my mates were lucky enough to sneak into a massive underground network of huge tunnels under South London. These tunnels were way deeper than the underground tube network as it took us about 45mins - 1 hour of walking down a spiral staircase to get to the bottom. At the bottom there was a network of HUGE half dome tunnels and at the end of every tunnel there was room with about 6-10 doors, each with another tunnel behind it.
We were down there exploring all day and we would have easily got lost if we didn't leave the lights on behind us and prop open doors with fire-extinguishers. There was easily hundreds and hundreds of tunnels all connected into a massive network but what made it even weirder now thinking back is the amount of tunnels that had rows of bunk-bed frames along each side. Some tunnels had stacks of boxes containing tons of medical type files and in hindsight I wish I had looked at these a bit more but I was only a 14-15 year old kid who was more interested in exploring and messing about with fire-extinguishers.

All the entrances to this huge network of tunnels are in round-stone buildings that are situated next to many tube stations in south-london.

Here is the entrance that we managed to get into at Clapham south tube station:


http://realitybomb.com/ads/tunnel.jpg

If you look at most south london tube stations, you will usually always see one of these round stone building very close by which shows you exactly how large this underground network of tunnels is. Personally I believe they are built near to tube stations as a good cover story by saying they are connected to the tube network but I know for a fact they are not. They are so much deeper than any tube. In fact, while we was walking down the spiral staircase we could hear exactly how deep the tube lines were in comparison and by the time we got to the bottom, any tube train overhead was a very distant noise. It may also explain why nearly EVERY tube maintenance budget gets massively over-spent.

Excellent work old chap. I thought the OP was remarkable because of it's omissions.

There are masses all over the British Isles and many many in Liverpool that lead also to stately homes also.

Yes you have also highlighted the plight of every miserable Merseysider who has had to cough up what is now 1.50 to cross the Mersey Tunnels which are never repaired.

Yet billions raised in revenue to build state of the art tunnels 20 times over. Yup you got it as to where the real maintenance is going.
Bravo.

girlgye
30-06-2011, 03:43 PM
The Nahanni Valley (Canada) Entrance
This covers 250 square miles in the southern end of the Mackenzie Mountains of Canada. It lies almost 550 miles due west of Fort Simpson on the Mackenzie River of northwest Canada. Hot springs and sulfur geysers keep the valley warmer than the surrounding areas by about 30 degrees year -round (the valley is above 60 degrees latitude), making it perpetually mist-covered. This valley is inhabited only by animals as people entering the valley are usually found headless and quite dead. The Indian tribes of the area avoid this valley. (These tribes include the Ojibways, the Slave, the Dogribs, the Stoney, the Beavers and the Chipweyans.) This valley is often referred to as "the Valley of the Headless Men.
:D Too funny. I know I shouldn't laugh but the written expression was hilarious. Sad but all too true for the daily sacrifices down there. :(

girlgye
30-06-2011, 03:51 PM
There is many old threads on this subject...
Very informative, some of them :

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=112416

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=94868

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=103058

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=124225

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=20763

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=40590

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=139469


Many more, use the search function to find many exciting threads :)

You are a bless but you are not curbing my addiction much. :o

mrindigo
30-06-2011, 04:08 PM
As a schoolkid me and one of my mates were lucky enough to sneak into a massive underground network of huge tunnels under South London. These tunnels were way deeper than the underground tube network as it took us about 45mins - 1 hour of walking down a spiral staircase to get to the bottom. At the bottom there was a network of HUGE half dome tunnels and at the end of every tunnel there was room with about 6-10 doors, each with another tunnel behind it.
We were down there exploring all day and we would have easily got lost if we didn't leave the lights on behind us and prop open doors with fire-extinguishers. There was easily hundreds and hundreds of tunnels all connected into a massive network but what made it even weirder now thinking back is the amount of tunnels that had rows of bunk-bed frames along each side. Some tunnels had stacks of boxes containing tons of medical type files and in hindsight I wish I had looked at these a bit more but I was only a 14-15 year old kid who was more interested in exploring and messing about with fire-extinguishers.

All the entrances to this huge network of tunnels are in round-stone buildings that are situated next to many tube stations in south-london.

Here is the entrance that we managed to get into at Clapham south tube station:



If you look at most south london tube stations, you will usually always see one of these round stone building very close by which shows you exactly how large this underground network of tunnels is. Personally I believe they are built near to tube stations as a good cover story by saying they are connected to the tube network but I know for a fact they are not. They are so much deeper than any tube. In fact, while we was walking down the spiral staircase we could hear exactly how deep the tube lines were in comparison and by the time we got to the bottom, any tube train overhead was a very distant noise. It may also explain why nearly EVERY tube maintenance budget gets massively over-spent.

That's really cool, Rreeve. Do you recall any signs or symbols down there? It would be interesting if someone were to get a camera down there.

mrindigo
30-06-2011, 04:17 PM
Here's an old News Paper from the LA Times in 1934. It talks about a cult that local Native Americans called the Lizard people, and their series of caverns deep below LA. There's a scan of the old paper below. Interesting stuff.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2009/04/did-weird-cult-carve-tunnels-under-los-angeles-jan-29-1934.html

mountain
30-06-2011, 04:23 PM
Excellent work old chap. I thought the OP was remarkable because of it's omissions.

There are masses all over the British Isles and many many in Liverpool that lead also to stately homes also.

Yes you have also highlighted the plight of every miserable Merseysider who has had to cough up what is now 1.50 to cross the Mersey Tunnels which are never repaired.

Yet billions raised in revenue to build state of the art tunnels 20 times over. Yup you got it as to where the real maintenance is going.
Bravo.

Yes, I recall reading about massive estates and mansions having cellar entrances to underground bases. There are also networks of tunnels connecting churches, schools and other buildings to one another. I can usually tell which ones have them because they stand out and usually are situated on a manmade hill.

Also, I once stumbled upon some articles online where someone did some extensive research into shopping malls and centres that were covers for entrances into underground bases as well. They went as far as saying that children that were procured were taken down into them for slave labour and for other reasons, never to be seen again. I hope that isn't the case, but I must say I never liked the vibe being in such places. It makes you wonder though ...

girlgye
30-06-2011, 04:31 PM
Yes, I recall reading about massive estates and mansions having cellar entrances to underground bases. There are also networks of tunnels connecting churches, schools and other buildings to one another. I can usually tell which ones have them because they stand out and usually are situated on a manmade hill.

Also, I once stumbled upon some articles online where someone did some extensive research into shopping malls and centres that were covers for entrances into underground bases as well. They went as far as saying that children that were procured were taken down into them for slave labour and for other reasons, never to be seen again. I hope that isn't the case, but I must say I never liked the vibe being in such places. It makes you wonder though ...

yes I got told by a Hackney Social Worker that the level of Satanic Abuse in that Borough is staggering and that's just what they know about. She talked about the Estates and now I'm seeing a link.

Watch this
Depressing.

His Name was Phil Schneider p13 - YouTube

manashee
30-06-2011, 04:36 PM
The whole of Arizona (I often stomp my foot on the ground and ask if they can hear me yet)


Do you have links to any specific articles concerning the Arizona Superstition Mountains handy? I lived near there for almost a year not long ago and I want to find out if there's a base there, who runs it (I'd heard it was Reptilians but I got the feeling they'd been gone from that area for quite some time when I was there; am curious if it has been abandoned or if perhaps some other species or if rogues of their own species might run the place), and what kind of things are done down there. I know the State of Arizona recently blocked off entrances to old mines and such (one of which I had gone to with a friend because he had told me of some paranormal experiences in it; it had been blocked off with big steel bars by the US Forest Service in November of 2010, right about one month before we visited). Also, was curious about any possible genetic engineering that might take place there or near there, as the case may be, or possible Reptilian contact with children around the ages of 9 through 12. I've been looking online for some time for info on this particular site but I can't seem to find any, or at least not that much.

dawnbreak
30-06-2011, 04:38 PM
there is a tunnel that runs between edinbugh castle and the mound (HQ of the Bank of Scotland)

Most of edinburgh's history is undgerground ......in tunnels :eek:

mountain
30-06-2011, 04:45 PM
there is a tunnel that runs between edinbugh castle and the mound (HQ of the Bank of Scotland)

Most of edinburgh's history is undgerground ......in tunnels :eek:

I wouldn't be surprised and this is an amazing synch for me because just yesterday I was looking at castles all around the UK and I thought to myself that they must have some major underground tunnels going on....

mountain
30-06-2011, 04:52 PM
yes I got told by a Hackney Social Worker that the level of Satanic Abuse in that Borough is staggering and that's just what they know about. She talked about the Estates and now I'm seeing a link.

Watch this
Depressing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxmd8XDh1uY&feature=fvwrel

Yes, them D.U.M.B.S.... and not to say it this way but you have to be pretty DUMB to go down in there. But I know people are conditioned to trust their governments and there was talk of this happening in Norway and people thinking its a good idea.

I know one thing, I am staying right on the surface of things, if you get my drift. I wonder how our dear planet feels having all this secrecy and deception and lies carved all in her insides. Maybe that is why lately she's been stretching a helluva lot, who knows...

mountain
30-06-2011, 05:24 PM
Here's an old News Paper from the LA Times in 1934. It talks about a cult that local Native Americans called the Lizard people, and their series of caverns deep below LA. There's a scan of the old paper below. Interesting stuff.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2009/04/did-weird-cult-carve-tunnels-under-los-angeles-jan-29-1934.html

Very interesting and it reminds me. I remember reading in Children of the Matrix about 'reptilian hives' operating from under Salt Lake City, Utah and hives under New York City. The Watchtower building was mentioned as being an entrance to one such in NYC and also references to the old subway tunnels leading to them.

I bet most major cities, if not all, are just the tips of what lies below and the many monuments and temples are 'markers' and probably main entrances to them.

mrindigo
01-07-2011, 12:00 AM
there is a tunnel that runs between edinbugh castle and the mound (HQ of the Bank of Scotland)

Most of edinburgh's history is undgerground ......in tunnels :eek:

I saw a documentary on Edinburgh's subterranean civilization. It was really interesting, though a bit grim at some points.

Very interesting and it reminds me. I remember reading in Children of the Matrix about 'reptilian hives' operating from under Salt Lake City, Utah and hives under New York City. The Watchtower building was mentioned as being an entrance to one such in NYC and also references to the old subway tunnels leading to them.

I bet most major cities, if not all, are just the tips of what lies below and the many monuments and temples are 'markers' and probably main entrances to them.

I don't know much about the mining engineer and his 'radio x-ray' methods described. I haven't done a lot of research on it yet. What strikes me as odd is that LA times still leaves it open for public debate. Typically sensationalistic stories don't go far if they don't serve some sort of political or corporate agenda. As far as I can tell, that would have neither.

I haven't read Children of the Matrix in full yet. That does sound interesting. I'd like to see what his sources are for that.

It does seem that ancient places have cave systems or caverns under them. The Sphinx, great pyramid, and Tenochtitlan have large subterranean structures under them. I have to wonder where else might have them?

godner
01-07-2011, 12:25 AM
This may be of interest:
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/

This site deals with known locations, but there may be some clues in there for other tunnels that aren't known about?

cybersurf
01-07-2011, 03:43 AM
it is interesting you have had scientologists reply to your posts :rolleyes:

It is a good subject but you will never have a debate with a scientoliogist in the room

Sorry, gess the post was for Starschildren and not for me.

cybersurf
01-07-2011, 03:54 AM
There is many old threads on this subject...
Very informative, some of them :

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=112416

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=94868

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=103058

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=124225

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=20763

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=40590

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=139469


Many more, use the search function to find many exciting threads :)

God! The first link is very good.

ONe of the refernces is about joint Hummnan ET Deep Underground Bases.

Here an interesting piece.

**My sources of information include people who worked in the labs, abductees taken to the bases, people who assisted in the construction of them, intelligence personnel (NSA, CIA, etc.) and UFO-Inner Earth Researchers...The Dulce Book by Branton.

...


Death Valley - Panamint Mountains region, California. Huge "Federation" base, Andro-Pleidian Nordic base (non-interventionists)

http://www.orgoneblasters.com/joint-bases.htm

Starschildren, I would wonder if you can confirm that it is a non interventionist Federation pleiadian nordic base.

cybersurf
01-07-2011, 04:13 AM
As a schoolkid me and one of my mates were lucky enough to sneak into a massive underground network of huge tunnels under South London. These tunnels were way deeper than the underground tube network as it took us about 45mins - 1 hour of walking down a spiral staircase to get to the bottom. At the bottom there was a network of HUGE half dome tunnels and at the end of every tunnel there was room with about 6-10 doors, each with another tunnel behind it.
We were down there exploring all day and we would have easily got lost if we didn't leave the lights on behind us and prop open doors with fire-extinguishers. There was easily hundreds and hundreds of tunnels all connected into a massive network but what made it even weirder now thinking back is the amount of tunnels that had rows of bunk-bed frames along each side. Some tunnels had stacks of boxes containing tons of medical type files and in hindsight I wish I had looked at these a bit more but I was only a 14-15 year old kid who was more interested in exploring and messing about with fire-extinguishers.

All the entrances to this huge network of tunnels are in round-stone buildings that are situated next to many tube stations in south-london.

Here is the entrance that we managed to get into at Clapham south tube station:


http://realitybomb.com/ads/tunnel.jpg

If you look at most south london tube stations, you will usually always see one of these round stone building very close by which shows you exactly how large this underground network of tunnels is. Personally I believe they are built near to tube stations as a good cover story by saying they are connected to the tube network but I know for a fact they are not. They are so much deeper than any tube. In fact, while we was walking down the spiral staircase we could hear exactly how deep the tube lines were in comparison and by the time we got to the bottom, any tube train overhead was a very distant noise. It may also explain why nearly EVERY tube maintenance budget gets massively over-spent.

So, this UK DU bases are some half a mile below or more, the size of the Tween towers maybe.

So the concentration camps for Britons are right below their feet.

Thanks.

cybersurf
01-07-2011, 04:17 AM
=starschildren;1060002984]I figured it was natural to assume every military base had underground sections of it. It's the ones that are normally missing the military base above that need more explaining (like reeve's tube station attachment, the tunnels he got into as a kid).

Arizona real State and life seems to be underground.

The Bush family farm in Texas supposedly has an entire underground network as well, entrance through the barn. Anyone ever noticed that there is a no fly zone over the property? That and they're (at least Bush Sr.) the biggest drug dealers in the US.

USA Dealer: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42400000/jpg/_42400033_gerogehwbushap203b.jpg

USA dealer clerks: http://www.tvcamaguey.co.cu/images/stories/clasificadas/internacionales/personaje%20Bill-Clinton.jpghttp://www.notiuno.com/uploads/2010/01/hillaryclinton.jpg

Dealer Worldwide: http://englishbylourdes.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/queen-elizabeth-ii_thumb1.jpg



Also worth mentioning is the tunnels that run under the border from Mexico to Arizona (and probably California, New Mexico, and Texas as well). These tunnels are huge, some big enough to take an entire truck through (look very government tunnelish) and yet they try to lay blame to the drug lords...spent yesterday yelling at the TV for various reasons, this was one of them. I highly doubt the tunnels, with their size and cleanly cemented sides/top, were dug out by a bunch of Mexicans with shovels. I'd say the government put them in for easier transport, and the drug lords are allowed to use them for more than handing the goods over to gov officials.


Shure no bunch of mexican narcos with shovels will do this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NnjaXWUZo2s/TNQjlbYRBfI/AAAAAAAAA6Y/sfb67PjTXzU/s320/F-6-8-25-CLOFTING-IMG_0539-2.jpg


Another similar one were these two underground warehouses. One was housing highly classified government documents in an underground mine (salt mine supposedly) in Kansas that is right under the fields of corn. Also houses old Hollywood movie reels. Then another one in Indiana I think, had pallet upon pallet of MRE's stocked up (and I mean millions of MRE's).

I forgot to specify the one underground base (or section of the Arizona base) that you can get to from various spots in Sedona. One of the entrances is in Boynton Canyon. And that canyon is middle of nowhere, nothing around, just sand and dirt, a few rocks. Stories of being escorted out of the canyon at gun point are common, military seemly popping up out of nowhere is also common. There is another one along the edges of the highway, the government is hiding a gate of some kind inside a building (a building you'd think was normal). Lots of military/government activity there.

https://my.qoop.com/store/multisanti-1280472b7ad0a0832ab9dbb253b00c50b87f7c76/Majestic-Sedona-by-multisanti-qpps_726886892490227.MD.jpg,290,194.541666667[/QUOTE]

interyermaw
01-07-2011, 12:10 PM
hi there my mother worked in the glasgow central hotel for years which is connected on to the train station and she told me of tunnels years ago that span the whole of the city and have nothing what so ever to do with the railway

rreeve
01-07-2011, 01:31 PM
That's really cool, Rreeve. Do you recall any signs or symbols down there? It would be interesting if someone were to get a camera down there.


I do plan on going back one day with a camera so people can really get to see the vastness of it on film as well as all the hundreds and hundreds of bunk-beds. When we got in as kids we got through a square window-like hole that was only covered up with a bit of loose plywood but this hole was eventually covered up with a sheet of iron. However I'm sure one of the many different entrances over south london must have an easy access point. :)

cybersurf
01-07-2011, 11:59 PM
I do plan on going back one day with a camera so people can really get to see the vastness of it on film as well as all the hundreds and hundreds of bunk-beds. When we got in as kids we got through a square window-like hole that was only covered up with a bit of loose plywood but this hole was eventually covered up with a sheet of iron. However I'm sure one of the many different entrances over south london must have an easy access point. :)

Just get some company. They might be waiting for you. One has to take precautions on the subject of Underground Bases. Some of Those disclossing them are no longer with us.

cybersurf
02-07-2011, 12:02 AM
This referenced site has references to the sources:

**My sources of information include people who worked in the labs, abductees taken to the bases, people who assisted in the construction of them, intelligence personnel (NSA, CIA, etc.) and UFO-Inner Earth Researchers...The Dulce Book by Branton



Joint Human and Alien Underground Bases
- By Sherry Shriner



Pine Gap - Alice Springs, Australia. This base is a massive multi-leveled facility run by the Club of Rome which, like the Bilderberger organization, is reputedly a cover for the Bavarian Illuminati. Pine Gap is to be a major control center for the New World Order Dictatorship and is equipped with levels of computer terminals tied-in to the major computer mainframes of the world.
Dulce Base - under Mt. Archuleta, Dulce, New Mexico. Located close to the Colorado border and situated on the Jicarella Apache Indian Reservation. The town of Dulce is located off U.S. Route 64 population 900-1,700. A small town with one motel and a gas station. The base is located 2.5 miles northwest of Dulce and almost overlooks the town. Joint CIA-Alien base. 95 miles northwest of Los Alamos. Biogenetics Laboratory including but not limited to: Atomic Manipulation, cloning, studies of the human aura, advanced mind control applications, animal/human crossbreeding, visual and audio human chip implantation, abduction and feeding off of humans including children.

The Second Largest Reptilian and Grey Base in North America. The Central Hub.

-1st Level - contains the garage for Street Maintenance.

-2nd Level- contains the garage for trains, shuttles, tunnel-boring machines and UFO maintenance.

-3rd Level - the first 3 levels contain government offices.

-4th Level - Human Aura Research as well as aspects of Dream Manipulation, Hypnosis, and Telepathy. They can lower your heartbeat with Delta Waves and introduce data and programmed reactions into your mind (for those implanted with brain chips). Most people already are, they just don't know it.

-5th Level - witnesses have described huge vats with amber liquid with parts of human bodies being stirred inside. Rows and rows of cages holding men, women and children to be used as food. Perhaps thousands.

-6th Level= privately called "Nightmare Hall." It contains the genetic labs. Here are where the crossbreeding experiments of human/animal are done on fish, seals, birds, and mice that are vastly altered from their original forms. There are multi-armed and multi-legged humans and several cages and vats of humanoid bat-like creatures up to 7 feet tall.

-7th level - Row after row of 1,000s of humans in cold storage including children.



Wright Air Force Base - Dayton, Ohio. Includes a Warehouse with multi-levels underground packed with alien craft, hardware, and even bodies on ice. Headquarters of the infamous Project Blue Book.

Groom Lake, Area 51 - Nevada. Includes the Nellis AFB test range but has nothing to do with underground nuclear testing. Huge underground facility where the exchange of technology takes place.

Located approx 125 miles north-northwest of Las Vegas and consists of the Groom Lake and the Papoose Lake Complexes. The expanded eastern portion of the property is known as the S-4 site, others allege its the southwest corner of Area 51. Either way the S-4 area is where the UFOs are stored. Also Dreamland (Data Repository Establishment and Maintenance) under the Groom Mountains is controlled by Greys.

Groom Facility - Large storage area in the tunnels that holds thousands of alien craft parts.

Dougway, Utah - underground shuttle system link between Dreamland and Dulce.

Page, Arizona - underground shuttle system link between Dreamland and Dulce

Mercury, Nevada - underground shuttle system link between Dreamland and Dulce

Burley, Idaho - underground shuttle system link between Dreamland and Dulce

Denver International Airport - Huge multilevel "city" under the airport.

Oklahoma City - multi-level base and underground shuttle system link between Dreamland and Dulce

Madigan, Fort Lewis, WA - Grey nest

Lakeport-Hopland, Montana - nest of Greys

Lassen & Deep Springs CA - nest of Greys

**It is the bases and connection link bases of Mercury, Nevada; Burley, Idaho; Dougway, Utah; Page, Arizona; the underground systems below the Denver International Airport and also Oklahoma City that are strategic sites that the NWO MUST maintain control over if they are to force America to submit to a one-world government. So it's these that need to come down!

**Other connecting facilities for the Tube shuttle system that link all these bases together are: Taos, N.M., Datil, N.M., Colorado Springs, CO, Creede, CO, Sandia, CO, Carlsbad, N.M. this also extends into a global system of tunnels and sub-cities.

Los Alamos National Laboratory- New Mexico. Genetics Research and bio-technology focused on mind control programming, genetics engineering as in cloning and DNA mapping known as "the exploration of the human genome."

Edwards Air Force Base - Mojave Desert, Southern California - underground base extends as far as 2 miles down.

Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica

Alsace-Lorraine Mountains area of France-Germany

Death Valley - Panamint Mountains region, California. Huge "Federation" base, Andro-Pleidian Nordic base (non-interventionists)

Camp Hero near Montauk Point - Long Island, NY. 8-Level Base that connects to the ITT center in New Jersey. The ITT center also has a connection/link to the Sub-Global Network.

Underwater bases off the coast of Florida and Peru.

Mt. Shasta - Telosian-Agharti Alliance (humanoid base). The central metroplex of Telos is said to consist of a multi leveled complex over 5 miles deep and at least 20 miles in circumference. Telos has subterranean connections via tube shuttles to at least 100 other subterranean cities below North America as well as to cites below South America such as the city of Posid below the Matto Grasso region of Brazil. The site of Alien and human meetings. Includes the infamous Telos City where it has been said that every president since Grover Cleveland has visited there.

Underground base in the Plumas National Forest in Northern California

Ehachapi, California - major center for joint alien/human activity

Kirtland Air Force Base - replicates UFOs, also an underground research facility where abductees have been and are taken (just as Dulce and others where their implanted, used and abused and sent back home). Located in the Manzano Mountain range south of Kirtland, AFB.

Blue Lake, New Mexico - base under the lake. UFOs seen both entering and and exiting the water.

Human UFO Fleet Bases:

Norton Air Force Base, California - UFO Garage. Known to store at least 3 of them.

Craft are stored in SE Dulce, Durango, CO, Taos, NM and the main fleet is stored at Los Alamos (under).

Los Alamos and the mountainous regions east and southeast of it in and around the Santa Fe National Forest are allegedly the major nest of Reptilian and Grey forces in North America, although there are a number of large dens scattered throughout the underground networks between Dulce and Area 51.

Dulce is a major through point as a central infiltration zone for surface operatives, as well as an operational base for abduction-implantation-mutilation agendas and also a major convergence for sub-shuttle terminals, UFO ports, and so on.



1,700 paved miles of roads under Dulce and Northern New Mexico, towards Los Alamos is another 800 miles of tunnels.

The underground highways travel in the same directions as the shuttle system known as the Terradrive Shuttle or the Sub-Global System. One must be a very high ranking Mason, 33 or higher, Corporate-Intelligence Agent, or an Alien to gain access to the shuttle/tube system. Even though it's paid for from your tax dollars!




Three Alien Networks at work on Earth:
1. Anti-Grey Nordic (Federation) factions,

2. Anti-Nordic Grey factions, and the

3. Nordic-Grey Collaborators (which involve the intelligence agencies and occult lodges, in essense the NWO.

The Greys want to take over the planet and impose a slave society to ultimately serve their empire,but they need theIlluminati's international economic connections to do so;and the Illuminati wants the same thing but they realize that they need the alien mind-control and abduction technology to accomplish their goals.

It's a love-hate relationship. They collaborate in order to set up a planetary government, however both the humanoids and the reptiloids are constantly plotting for the time when the world government arrives so that once it is established they can move in and take full control and expel the necessary collaboraters--the humans doing away with the Greys or the Greys doing away with the humans.

For instance, while the Illuminati negotiates with the Greys for technology they are at the same time developing such weapons as the SDI to potentially use against them. On the other hand while the Greys are negotiating with the humans they are implanting micro-chips in those whom they negotiate with to ensure that they remain under ALIEN control once earth succumbs to the New World Order.

And yet both of these, the humans and Greys both being controlled by the Luciferian "poltergeists" who are of a quasi-physical etheric or energy beings who have been seen overseeing and directing the actions of the human and alien collaborators.

The backroom agreed upon plan is that the Nazi/Bavarian/Illuminati have agreed to sell out 75% of earth to the aliens in exchange for control of 25% for themselves and mind control abduction technology.

And what does the Nazi/Bavarian/Illuminati rule? America! Hello..the Bush Administration is ILLUMINATI. So is Democrat Candidate John Kerry. Our government is CONTROLLED by the Alien-Human Agenda!

The only way to save our country is to get it out of the hands of the NWO and Secret Societies and back into the hands of a Government that will Protect the Constitution of the United States instead of committing HIGH TREASON against it and us!


http://www.orgoneblasters.com/joint-bases.htm

notthisshitagain
02-07-2011, 01:42 AM
Thanks for posting this, I've always been interested in this subject. Whenever I read about them (the government, etc.) having people trapped in cages in underground bases and such, and performing all kinds of crazy experiments on them, I seriously wish all this info is not true.... :(

mrindigo
02-07-2011, 01:43 AM
I do plan on going back one day with a camera so people can really get to see the vastness of it on film as well as all the hundreds and hundreds of bunk-beds. When we got in as kids we got through a square window-like hole that was only covered up with a bit of loose plywood but this hole was eventually covered up with a sheet of iron. However I'm sure one of the many different entrances over south london must have an easy access point. :)

I'd certainly be interested in seeing that. It must have been a little creepy seeing all of the beds and such. I wonder if they've updated it since you've been in it? That could be very interesting if they had. They might have motion sensors and cameras in and around it now, so that might be something to account for if you decide to go back.

why_do_it_to_yourself
02-07-2011, 02:02 AM
I do plan on going back one day with a camera so people can really get to see the vastness of it on film as well as all the hundreds and hundreds of bunk-beds. When we got in as kids we got through a square window-like hole that was only covered up with a bit of loose plywood but this hole was eventually covered up with a sheet of iron. However I'm sure one of the many different entrances over south london must have an easy access point. :)

check this link got pics ect

http://underground-history.co.uk/claphamn.php

starschildren
02-07-2011, 02:04 AM
it is interesting you have had scientologists reply to your posts :rolleyes:

It is a good subject but you will never have a debate with a scientoliogist in the room
Sorry, gess the post was for Starschildren and not for me.

yeah, probably was. and honestly, i dont give a flying f if someone is involved with scientology or any other religion/belief. if the person is a decent person that I can get along with, thats all that matters (their personality, what they're like on the inside... not what beliefs they had, if that was the case, I'd never go out in public). its time to stuff the personal vendetta against anyone who isnt perfect in someone elses eyes and get over yourselves.

as for the debate, wasn't looking for one, was looking to share some of the information I have with others, and maybe, just maybe someone else might actually have information too that they'd like to share. which people have, so I'd call it a success.

no real links other than what I posted, I'm sure if I took the time to look around online I'd find something though. Not sure on the superstition mountains, but based on the name (which some native american probably gave it), I'd say something weird has gone on there for a while. Never really spent any time there, but when I was there, it wasn't this happy happy go lucky place to be. And if there are any caves there, probably are entrances to the tunnels or to a building inside of it. will look and see if I can find anything and talk to a few people to see if they know anything.

lots of good information being shared. keep it up

mrindigo
02-07-2011, 02:11 AM
check this link got pics ect

http://underground-history.co.uk/claphamn.php

Awesome, thanks for sharing! :)

why_do_it_to_yourself
02-07-2011, 07:25 PM
Awesome, thanks for sharing! :)

some people have done a few youtube vids down there

HVTV2 Clapham North Tunnels - YouTube

HVTV2.5 Clapham North Tunnels Part 2 - YouTube

thoughtmage
02-07-2011, 08:58 PM
Any in North Caroline I can check out? I doesn't afraid of possible lizards. :D

cybersurf
03-07-2011, 12:37 AM
Thanks for posting this, I've always been interested in this subject. Whenever I read about them (the government, etc.) having people trapped in cages in underground bases and such, and performing all kinds of crazy experiments on them, I seriously wish all this info is not true.... :(

Fucking governmental and military crazy scientists doing atrocities in DUMBS will stop being true when it all comes to the light, seen, acted against and the fuckng criminals put in a dungeon or hanged like their fucking nazi masters.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/uploads/816399-Mengele666.gif

cybersurf
03-07-2011, 12:49 AM
yeah, probably was. and honestly, i dont give a flying f if someone is involved with scientology or any other religion/belief. if the person is a decent person that I can get along with, thats all that matters (their personality, what they're like on the inside... not what beliefs they had, if that was the case, I'd never go out in public). its time to stuff the personal vendetta against anyone who isnt perfect in someone elses eyes and get over yourselves.

as for the debate, wasn't looking for one, was looking to share some of the information I have with others, and maybe, just maybe someone else might actually have information too that they'd like to share. which people have, so I'd call it a success.

no real links other than what I posted, I'm sure if I took the time to look around online I'd find something though. Not sure on the superstition mountains, but based on the name (which some native american probably gave it), I'd say something weird has gone on there for a while. Never really spent any time there, but when I was there, it wasn't this happy happy go lucky place to be. And if there are any caves there, probably are entrances to the tunnels or to a building inside of it. will look and see if I can find anything and talk to a few people to see if they know anything.

lots of good information being shared. keep it up

I think I put a question in another thread, but the base in Death Valley is attributed to the Federation and nordics, being non interventionists. Do you know anything of that?

cybersurf
03-07-2011, 12:53 AM
check this link got pics ect

http://underground-history.co.uk/claphamn.php

Thought I would find Dr. Who's Tardis there:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fpHKiOzeRrs/Sq1yH-u2TVI/AAAAAAAAAgY/lvdQHcvhpWg/s400/TARDIS.jpg

cybersurf
03-07-2011, 12:55 AM
Any in North Caroline I can check out? I doesn't afraid of possible lizards. :D

Not even this will garanty you protection from lizards:

http://www.thehalloffame.se/typo3temp/pics/bb0a62bbcc.jpg

girlgye
03-07-2011, 01:03 AM
Great my favourite thread is back up again. :)

It is going to be my last word on the Veitch but I can't help but think it was this type of thread that has them the most concerned. Really.

As the Veitch has proclaimed it is Conspiranoia.

Hey Americans!

I challenge you to galvanise and organise a coup to level six Dulce. Veitch doesn't believe in devils and demons. So lets see what's down there and all the other little ginnels they've got hidden humm?

Come on whadya say!

girlgye
03-07-2011, 01:05 AM
Not even this will garanty you protection from lizards:

http://www.thehalloffame.se/typo3temp/pics/bb0a62bbcc.jpg

Well ya goota ta try. If ya not part of not part of the solution ya part of the problem. :D

girlgye
03-07-2011, 01:10 AM
Just get some company. They might be waiting for you. One has to take precautions on the subject of Underground Bases. Some of Those disclossing them are no longer with us.

Who gives a fuck. They should be honoured for not being weasles like yourself.

the nine
03-07-2011, 03:48 AM
Interesting thread, gang. Keep it up.

check this out rag'.

a bit of local mystery history..

http://www.mancubist.co.uk/2006/07/25/guardian-exchange-manchesters-cold-war-bunkers

I worked with sparks who claimed that they worked on a massive tunnel underneath the curved bt building in town which stretched to salford and beyond.
they said that there was an old bike for transport with a basket on the front to put tools in.
the lights were on sensors, coming on around 50 yards in front as you approached and going out 50 yards behind you as you passed..
they both said it was deathly silent and very aerie down there, neither of them said they got to the end, just maintenance on the lighting systems..

dont think they were BSing, but you never know

starschildren
03-07-2011, 03:54 PM
Any in North Caroline I can check out? I doesn't afraid of possible lizards. :D

Mt Ranier (entrance)
and
Brown Mountain (near Morganton)
for starters, still looking/waiting to hear from some people.

starschildren
03-07-2011, 03:58 PM
Do you have links to any specific articles concerning the Arizona Superstition Mountains handy?

Run a search for it with the keywords of "Superstition Mountains, Arizona" and "Underground Base" you should get results.

But, someone I know that lives down there says that about 4 miles off the beaten path (towards the top) there is a little wooden shack (kind of like an outhouse) that has a sign hanging on it that says "Property of the USAF".

manashee
03-07-2011, 04:24 PM
Run a search for it with the keywords of "Superstition Mountains, Arizona" and "Underground Base" you should get results.

Thank you for the suggestion. I did such a search when I lived out in that area, but the results were less than promising and mostly had nothing to do at all with the reason for my search in the first place (I've noticed that with mostly Google - and I've also noticed that when using the Google Maps topography setting, one part of the flatiron mountain that faces Apache Junction and neighboring Phoenix, had a big solid black square covering it). Maybe I could do the search with a different search engine and get better results, I'll try again in any case.

But, someone I know that lives down there says that about 4 miles off the beaten path (towards the top) there is a little wooden shack (kind of like an outhouse) that has a sign hanging on it that says "Property of the USAF".

I've looked at that mountain from the neighboring town of Apache Junction and seen what look like pyramids and other ruins on the mountain itself. Ironically, I've also been told that government officials insist there are no ruins up on that mountain and that it's just a big wilderness. That little outhouse thing, if it indeed is owned by the Air Force, could be reason enough for them to deny the existence of things that are up there.

Besides, a friend and I observed what looked like either a dragon or a pterosaur perched up on a cliff above Peralta Trail last year, just looking around at the terrain. It's already known down there that that place has seen some really strange things, to deny them officially is kind of foolish considering the history of that place.

starschildren
03-07-2011, 04:32 PM
Thank you for the suggestion. I did such a search when I lived out in that area, but the results were less than promising and mostly had nothing to do at all with the reason for my search in the first place (I've noticed that with mostly Google - and I've also noticed that when using the Google Maps topography setting, one part of the flatiron mountain that faces Apache Junction and neighboring Phoenix, had a big solid black square covering it). Maybe I could do the search with a different search engine and get better results, I'll try again in any case.[\quote]

yeah, I've noticed with google they tend to black a lot out and censor a lot. I use aol search or avg search (a search engine provided by the virus software I have). not only that but google tacks on a lot of shit to your computer and keeps track of what you search for, where you go, what you do online, etc...

[quote]I've looked at that mountain from the neighboring town of Apache Junction and seen what look like pyramids and other ruins on the mountain itself. Ironically, I've also been told that government officials insist there are no ruins up on that mountain and that it's just a big wilderness. That little outhouse thing, if it indeed is owned by the Air Force, could be reason enough for them to deny the existence of things that are up there.

Besides, a friend and I observed what looked like either a dragon or a pterosaur perched up on a cliff above Peralta Trail last year, just looking around at the terrain. It's already known down there that that place has seen some really strange things, to deny them officially is kind of foolish considering the history of that place.

interesting. and yeah, I agree, if the air force has any claim to it they're gonna deny everything that they don't want people knowing about. only real way to find out is to hike it and take pictures/video of everything and anything that seems out of place (whether thats a building, a sign, or even a petrographic or chicken scratch on a rock).

there have been a lot of sightings connected with it and strange activity connected with it. if anyone got a scientist to help, could do a fly over and do scans on the mountain. see if its hallow or has anything strange under it. also EM readers, set them down on the ground of various places of the mountain and see if its putting out any energy signatures.

manashee
03-07-2011, 04:50 PM
also EM readers, set them down on the ground of various places of the mountain and see if its putting out any energy signatures.

Funny you should mention energy signatures. My friend back there (I've since moved out of that state) once explained the paranormal phenomena there to me by comparing the mountains to a rechargeable battery. He said that from what he had seen, read about, and so on, about that mountain, it has so much electrically conductive ore in it that it acts like a gigantic natural lightning rod. When the summer monsoon storms come through they do have a tendency to hover around that mountain (in fact on that same day that he and I saw the 'dragon' or whatever it was, a storm appeared in the range to the east of the flatiron itself, which then moved south of the mountain, went around it, and appeared maybe an hour later north of where we had been walking. From what I could tell it had basically circled the flatiron), and because those storms are highly charged electrical storms, he suggested that the lightning that strikes the area 'recharges the battery' throughout the summer months. I do find it interesting that the paranormal stuff that goes on there seems to be at its most intense annually starting at or around the month of September (at the end of the monsoons) and tapering off in intensity until around April or May (when or shortly before the monsoons begin again).

As you mentioned about the Google thing, I started using other search engines a few months ago. I hadn't thought of the AVG one or the other one you mentioned, and I will be taking a look at those momentarily. I appreciate the help.

cybersurf
04-07-2011, 03:38 AM
Well ya goota ta try. If ya not part of not part of the solution ya part of the problem. :D

Who gives a fuck. They should be honoured for not being weasles like yourself.

Sory but I'm not talking for myself, but just cyting people who have really experienced the underground discloshure experience. And those looking face to face those fucking crocodiles in London.

cybersurf
09-07-2011, 11:44 PM
It has been speculated that nazi death camps did exist, others say they didn't exist, others document it... but wat were they being used for really?

Non hypnotic memory retrieval techniques offer an answer, for the first time in decades, of what was the hyddened business in them.

Rothschild Zionists financed Hitler, Hitler exterminated jews for Rothschild's secret business.


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In 1992, two auditors who, in their past lives, had experienced the same incident from different angles, reported on it independently from each other. It occurred in the late 1930s. One observed that dead bodies wrapped in plastic bags were taken to an underground factory in a western-US desert, to be put in huge cauldrons and boiled. The operators, although having humanoid bodies (arms, legs, etc.) were not Earth people. The bodies were boiled down to the consistency of protein jelly and then turned into small cubes. In color and material they looked like transparent soft plastic dice. The other of the two auditors, in that particular past life a US navy pilot, transported “cassettes” from Germany to that same underground set-up “somewhere in the desert, western USA”. When he found out what load his plane actually carried, he committed suicide. The “cassettes” were made in a mass extinction camp in the far east of Germany or perhaps in Poland. Healthy and strong young men and children were singled out and killed slowly with electric shocks. Their GEs of course ridged up tremendously during this brutal treatment and threw all their survival-energies against it. In the end the GEs were so energized that one could “pluck” them and preserve them in “cassettes”. The auditor could not explain this properly in terms of electronics but the fact remains that the life power, the living GEs of these young people were trapped in cassettes and taken to a US underground base by the planeload full. (This is before the US entered the Second World War against Germany.)

Definitions: Auditor. A person who applies non hypnotic memory retrieval technoques.

GE. Genetic Entity. An entity, a program that runs the body. In some cases is called the body's soul.


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cybersurf
09-07-2011, 11:46 PM
what would that USA underground base would have been?

Shall we ask CIA? FBI? NSA?

cybersurf
13-07-2011, 04:30 AM
check this link got pics ect

http://underground-history.co.uk/claphamn.php

This is probablly what Reeve foun out. Nice he was able to describe this:


The described places are deep underground shelters. They are really deep, they have fixtures for bunk beads and the UK government is liasing them to private corporations. Some wanted to use it for a Night Bar, Genetic experimentation perhaps?

http://underground-history.co.uk/images/clapham01.jpg

http://underground-history.co.uk/images/clapham07.jpg

http://underground-history.co.uk/images/clapham22.jpg

http://underground-history.co.uk/images/clapham17.jpg

cybersurf
09-08-2011, 08:41 PM
Here are examples of Deep Underground Bases, one of Reptilian/Gray bastards in the times of Egipt, ana a USA Mlitary/Grays base in today's western USA.

The base in times of Egipt were memories as such. The description of the western USA military ET base is a non hypnotic memory retrieval method.

The three of us stood there, watching as water flew by and it tilted to the right, makig a turn that I World have crashed if I had made such. Skimming the surface of the water as it went up slightly to accommodate against the change in level from water to land. Finally it stopped, hovering above a patch of land that looked like a volcano’s top.

As it began lowering down, quickly at first and slowing as it entered the opening in the crust of the protruding land. Even with the darkness of the night, you could see remants of soot and ash on the sides around us, and the ship. It was indeed a dormant volcano, and I had to admit, what better place to hide a base than something that was created naturally. Given, you would have had to of evacuated before any eruption, but depending on the contents and how they were stored, it would not be that hard.

Once down a good 300 to 400 feet the ship began moving sideways, it was as if the outside of the ship spun, but the inside stayed still and the window always remained facing the same direction. If it had spun both the inside and outside, as well as the window always moving in the same round motion I would have been sick to my stomach and useless by the time it came to a stop.

And then it dropped again, down a separate chamber, straight down at speeds I did not wish to know. The sides of land here flew past at blurring speed, I could not even gess how far we had gone down when the ship halted. And again moved sideways, to the left this time in a slow fashion and came to rest on a flat surface.

All around, outside the window, you could see different walkways that were more like bridges. Some turned off and led to what appeared to be halls carved into the rock of the sides. And directly in front of us, there was an energy source, a tall pillar of electronics that gave off light with those same bridge walkways all around it, directly in the center of the cavern we were in.

The door on our right slid open, evaporating almost as it did so. Leaving us standing there, looking out at the walkway that led to a hall. Stepping out from the ship and onto the platform it had landed on, there was was nothing and no one anywhere around us. Looking down, it went on forever, levels of walkways and no end to the cavern. The walkway itself was only a few feet wide, one misstep and you’d fall to your death.

Horus went in front of us, Kelshoro behind him, and I was left to bring up the rear.

“We need weapons.” I muttered under my breath.

“Collect them from the dead.” Horus had heard my mumbling and responded with his solution.

We walked off the walkway and into the hall. The rock was smooth along the sides, almost as if it had been grown that way. Not a rough edge to it. There were entryways on either side of us all along the hall, reaching the end of the first hall we turned to our left, and followed that hall, again with entryways all along it.

Reaching a chamber that was larger than any I had seen on the walk there, it was occupied by both of the races that had been banished, along with several hybrids it appeared. Some of them looked to be halfbreeds of Reptilian and human, others of Elik and Human, and still others looked like a breed of Reptilian and Elik. Even though Elik was not the right name for them, they appeared enough liek them that it was enough to call them that, even though others would at some point take offense to that observation. Idid not know there species name, I knew of them, but not of their origins beyond that they had shared a home with Rinah and her kind a long time ago.

“Who is first?” Horus rubbed his hands together and grinned at them.

They seemed a little too surprised to have us standing there to respond, a few of them ran from the room while others stood there staring at us.

“Gess no one wants to play.” I shrugged and walked past him for the next hall.

Kelshoro followed behind me, watching around himself, waiting for them to jump on him. But none did, they watched but did not move from their spots.

“You all are a boring bunch.” I heard Horus muttering behind us as he followed behind.

“They are just shocked.” Kelshoro added in as we stepped into the next hall that had been across the room we were in.

“So much for being warriors... they cannot even manage a blink in our direction.” Horus was complainig.

“Be shure all know we are here, they are just as mentally connected as we can be.” I gave my opinion.

We walked a good 100 paces down the hall before we finally approached on the labs. Most were empty of occupants, either experiment or others. Except for the last two.

One held a stasis chamber, preserving a dead body that I recognized as Osiris, a table sat in the middle of the room with blood stained floors. Osiris had marks on his body, cuts down his chest and arms, legs... every part of him as if he had been taken apart and someone forgot to sew him back up.

The other had a stasis chamber in it as well, preserving a live being. It was Isis, she looked peacefull in her sleep. There were very few marks on her body, needle marks left behind by collection of genetics or bone samples. She had aged some, but not nearly as smuch as she should have in the years that had past.

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thoughtmage
09-08-2011, 09:07 PM
Not even this will garanty you protection from lizards:

http://www.thehalloffame.se/typo3temp/pics/bb0a62bbcc.jpg

Of course not. I just don't fear them. Its useless to fear them. Killing me would do them no service, and even if they did I'd fight back. No need to be frightened, its do or die. Simple as that, and I'm a decent swordsman and martial artist.

cybersurf
10-08-2011, 04:55 AM
Of course not. I just don't fear them. Its useless to fear them. Killing me would do them no service, and even if they did I'd fight back. No need to be frightened, its do or die. Simple as that, and I'm a decent swordsman and martial artist.

thanks. They kill through the New World Order, they are the New World order.

One has to be a mind fighter, I mean, freedom of the mind and self determinism will defeat the fuckers.

cybersurf
10-08-2011, 04:58 AM
A similare description as regards going down a lot below earth. In this case a fucking USA military Grays base. In the case of the USA military, heavy druggind is used. Also electric shocks near the stomach were used, a practice that might be related with harvesting of souls (the living entity running a body).

Two nights later we camped out at another nearby lake and before falling off to sleep I was feeling the apprehension of an impending abduction. I woke up the next morning with increased difficulty of breathing, and my overall physical condition had deteriorated. I knew I'd been abducted.

On August 5, 1994, I decided to retrieve the memory of the abduction that I knew had occurred in this area. I figured it was probably just the usual type of abduction into a Grays ship. However, I got the shock of my life! I uncovered not just one, but two abductions in which I was flown to a nearby secret, underground military/Grays base!

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Abduction

The first abduction occurred at about 45 minutes after I had spotted the UFO above the hills to the north. There was no further UFO activity, so I decided to go back to bed. I wadded up my sleeping bag and pillow, folded up the lawn chair, and headed back to my tent. However, before I could get to our campsite under the tall trees, a bright flash knocked me unconscious, and I collapsed on the lawn. At least two Grays picked me up and carried me over to a bluish-white beam that touched the lawn. The beam extended upward to a disk-shaped craft hovering just above the tree tops. They floated me up in the beam, through the bottom of the craft, and into the circular beaming room, which was located in the middle of the craft.

The craft was at least sixty feet in diameter (outside dimensions). I walked out of the beaming room and found myself in a large, open room that reminded me of a cocktail lounge. The interior of this craft wasn't like the usual layout of Grays ships. I suspect that it was designed for the comfort of Earth humans, namely military personnel, but this is only speculation. They led me over to the right side of the room where I had to sit down in an unusual, low reclining chair that reminded me of a car seat for infants. This adult-size, reclining bucket seat with sides was tilted back at about a 45 degree angle. I sunk down in it, feeling rather lethargic.

Shortly thereafter I was escorted back to the beaming room. Two small Grays stood at my sides as we floated down the beam into an underground hangar. The disk was too large to land inside the rectangular hangar, which was about fifty wide and a hundred feet long (a very rough estimate). I could see that the ground-level roof of the hangar was open as we floated down into the hangar. After floating down to the floor of the hangar, the two Grays escorted me over to double doors near one of the corners of the hangar. The doors swung open, and I saw a large, well-lit room with white walls. The room appeared to be an office with computers, but no one was sitting at the desks, so I'm not certain what they used the room for. I then turned to my right, through a door, and into a small room with white cabinets and a dentist-type chair. My recollection of being in this room was somewhat hazy, as I was given a drug, which I thought might be sodium Pentothal.

Apparently, they drugged me during both abductions, because I felt exceptionally groggy in re-experiencing these two incidents. This also made it a bit more difficult in recovering some of the details of these two abductions. After they drugged me, I heard someone say, "He's out. " It felt like they were interrogating me, but I was so doped up I could only contact a few of the details. I heard someone say "goddamit," and then someone referred to me as an "asshole." They did something to my head. It felt like it might have been electric shock, but I'm not clear on this. I do know that my head hurt. I felt really awful.

I was then led out of this room and into the large office room again. On my left and within this large room was a smaller office. I looked through the large window in the cubicle and could see a desk inside. They escorted me out of the large office and down to the end of a hallway where I turned to my left and walked into an elevator.

The elevator was nothing more than a platform that descended and ascended in a vertical, cylindrical shaft. It felt like we descended a very long distance down into the earth. I couldn't tell how far we went, but the elevator descended very fast. It wouldn't surprise me if we had traveled a half mile or more straight down into the earth. At the end of the elevator ride, they escorted me out into what looked like an underground parking lot. It was a large, open concrete structure supported by several pillars. A man drove a small vehicle in front of me and stopped. The vehicle reminded of an electric golf cart. I sat on the back of the cart with my back to the driver. He drove me across this large room to an exit where we descended even deeper on a narrow road that screwed round and round. I began feeling a bit dizzy due to the constant downward, clockwise turning.

When the cart stopped, I was led into another area, a collection of rooms apparently designated for Grays' operations. I entered the first and the largest room, and they escorted me across the room to a tank that stood parallel to the wall. The tank was four to five feet high and about eight to ten feet long. I climbed a ladder at the end of the tank and plunged into the liquid in the tank. The Grays held me down in the liquid, and I held my breath as long as I could. Finally, I had to inhale the liquid into my lungs. As bizarre as this sounds, I found that I could breathe the liquid! I have no idea why they did this to me.

The tall Grays helped me out of the tank, and I expelled the liquid from my lungs. Then they led me out of this room and into a corridor. We turned left into a small room that reminded me of a steam room at a health club. I sat on a bench in the midst of a thick, foggy white light that filled the room. The large, black eyes of a tall Gray appeared in the dense, white light, and then he led me to another room. After lying on the examination table I felt something go down my throat. They followed this procedure with something that felt like an electric shock. Then they extracted sperm from me with their cup-like device placed over my genitals.

After the examination they led me back to the bright, foggy room, then back up to the top level of the base again. Then they escorted me back into the small room with white cabinets and the dentist-style chair. This was the room where

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the military people had injected that heavy drug in me. They had apparently designated this room only for the activities of military personnel, parallel in function to the Grays' examination rooms. At this point I only recalled a man in a white lab coat standing next to me while I was lying in the examination chair. The man in the lab coat was talking to another man standing in the doorway-a stocky young man with a crew cut and wearing green camouflage fatigues.

Two Grays then escorted me back out through the double doors into the hangar where they floated me back up to the same disk-shaped craft. They returned me to my campsite, and I fell asleep in my tent. I woke up the following morning without any indication of having been abducted during the night.

The Eye of Ra, by Truman L. Cash.

cybersurf
10-08-2011, 05:00 AM
More Western USA Military DUMB.

Heavy druging is used by the fuckers.

Abduction

The following day I found a free camping area at , only a few miles from . We pitched our tents on the sandy beach of the public access area next to a large parking area and boat ramp. That evening at dusk we heard distant thunder echoing through the steep, rocky hills. It grew steadily louder until a strange looking aircraft appeared in the west. It had a large, cylindrical fuselage with short, stubby wings near the middle, and there was a red flashing light on its belly. It flew very low over the tops of the hills, heading eastward. After our vacation I described this craft to a man who had recently left the Air Force. He said it was a cruise missile, and that sometimes they launch a missile in the Pacific Ocean, direct it across the continental United States, and then dump it into the Atlantic.

In the evening of our second day of camping at , I began to feel very apprehensive and nervous about being abducted. It is my repeated observation that this nervousness comes from the Grays probing my mind. Consequently, I had a difficult time getting to sleep that night. Then a group of teenagers drove into the parking lot and decided to have a party there. J was afraid they were going to bother us. However, they finally left. and we eventually fell asleep.

During the night I woke up to the sound of a helicopter and men talking outside our tent. A man unzipped the door to the dome tent where J and I were sleeping. and a short Gray entered. The Gray took my hand and led me out through the door of the tent. When I exited the tent I turned to my left and came face to face with a stocky man in green camouflage fatigues-the same man that I had seen in the underground base two nights before. He had a build like a football player. Another man in dress uniform stood on his left. but I didn't look directly at him. I had the impression that this other man was an officer. A helicopter was waiting for them on the parking area above our tent; a small disk-shaped craft was waiting for me on the shore of the lake, about forty feet from our tent. Two short Grays escorted me to the saucer, and a third Gray stood by the steps of the hatch of the craft. As I approached the craft, the helicopter took off and passed low above our heads.

I've recalled being in many different types of spacecraft, but this was the smallest flying saucer I've ever flown in-a real sports model. The craft was the typical disk shape, but only about fifteen feet in diameter (outside dimensions). I squeezed into the tiny ship. The Grays strapped me into a deep bucket seat, the same type of seat in which I sat two nights before in the larger saucer. I was very nervous and my stomach felt queasy. I wasn't liking this one bit.

At this point I left my body and sailed upward, high above . In the meantime the ship took off with my body. I was enjoying the view so much that I didn't notice which way it went. After realizing that my body was nowhere in the vicinity, I began searching for it. Somehow I knew the saucer had flown eastward, so I traced it over to the underground base. In spite of the darkness of the night I sensed that this base was in a hillside devoid of trees. I believe it was on the south side of the hill, but I'm not one hundred per cent certain that I was that well oriented. The roof of the underground hangar was wide open.

The next thing I remember I was back in my body and stepping out of the saucer into the hangar. This particular alien craft was much smaller than the ship that had transported me two nights before, so it could land on the hangar floor with lots of room to spare. I looked up and watched the stars gradually disappear as the roof of the hangar slowly closed. I couldn't tell for sure if the hangar door slid horizontally or if the doors were hinged like cabinet doors.

Two Grays escorted me to the opposite end of the hangar and through the double doors. I walked into the large office room. The small cubicle office with a window was on my left. However, instead of turning left, we kept walking straight to the other corner of the room. We then turned right into a different corridor than the one I had walked down two nights before. However, like the other corridor, this corridor also had an elevator at the end of it. It was exactly the same type of elevator. We descended after a much shorter ride, and I exited the elevator and found myself in a very large, dimly lit room. It looked like some kind of lounge area, as there were two couches on my right on the other side of the room. A coffee table occupied the space between the two couches.

I saw a doorway straight ahead of me on the other side of the room. However, what I saw next didn't make any sense at all. A naked girl with blonde hair came through this doorway and walked straight towards me! She took my hand and led me into the adjacent room. On the second recounting of this incident I began to realize that this was a telepathic implant. On the third recounting of this incident the telepathic implant completely dissolved. I discovered there had been no girl at all, but only a tall Gray who was projecting in my mind the image of a naked, blonde girl. Apparently, this was a ploy that the Gray thought it needed to use to get me to follow it. I then found myself in this adjoining room, bathed in the now familiar, dense, white light. I basked in the misty light for a short time, and then we exited through a doorway to the right.

The next room appeared to be some kind of computer or communications room. It reminded me of the type of ground communications room you see in a NASA space shuttle mission. However, this room was smaller, and it was long and narrow . I turned to my left and walked down the length of the room with the wall to my left and a long row of computer consoles on my right. There was a man and a woman in green camouflage fatigues sitting in front of the consoles. There was at least one short Gray in the room, but I didn't stop to thoroughly examine the room.

After leaving this room, I entered a Grays examination room. I took my clothes off and lay on my back on the examination table, which was illuminated by a bright light. There was a tall Gray on each side of the table. They placed a band around each wrist, and then the Gray on my left opened my mouth and shoved a tube down my throat and into my lungs. I don't know what they were doing, but it seemed as if they were putting something into my lungs rather than pumping the air out, as they have done so many times in previous abductions. They must have also drugged me, because I became very groggy during this examination and remained in a drug-like state for some time afterward. Then they turned me on my stomach, and they removed the anal implant that was installed in April of 1993 . Ironically, this anal implant and my current brain implant were installed shortly after the channeled ·Pleiadians" told me that I'd never be abducted again.

As I recovered the memory of this in session, I roared with laughter, because I had popped out of my body at this point and was looking down at my own naked butt. It was one of those situations where you just had to be there to appreciate the humor of it all. At least there was a positive side to this abduction because they had removed my anal implant. However, I wish that they had also removed my brain implant, as it is very debilitating.

By the time the Grays were finished with me, I was back in my body. After dressing myself a tall Gray escorted me out of the exam room and back through the communications room. The woman sitting at the console glanced at me as I passed by her. Then I approached the man in fatigues, who was sitting further down the long row of consoles. Before I could walk by him, he stood up and glared at me and said, "You didn't see a thing". His stem countenance and serious tone of voice convinced me that he meant it as a threat. However, if I were intimidated by our government, you would not be reading this report now.

The soldier then allowed me to pass. The Gray escorted me back through the room with the misty, white light and then into the large lounge room. I was still very groggy from the drugs when I sat down on the couch. A man in dress uniform--probably an officer--was sitting on the other couch. He stood up and faced the tall Gray that had escorted me into the lounge room. They appeared to be discussing what they should do with me. My head slumped down on my chest; I just wanted to sleep it off. That's when they picked me up, and someone said, ·Come on." They led me back to the elevator, and we ascended to the top level. They guided me down the corridor to the large, white office room. I turned left and walked a short distance to a door on my left. I entered the room and sat in the dentist's chair. This was the same small room with the white cabinets where I had been two nights before.

The drug was beginning to wear off, and I had a bit more awareness of my surroundings than the last time I was in this room. The man in the lab coat stood on my right next to the chair. I noticed that he was wearing dark slacks under his lab coat and had black leather shoes. He looked to be in his late fifties, wore glasses, and was mostly bald on top with some graying hair around the sides of his head. He was talking with a soldier standing by the doorway just like two nights before. This was the same stocky soldier who was standing by our tent when they abducted me at the beach. Apparently, he was a guard.

When the drug had worn off enough, the man in the lab coat escorted me through the double doors and into the hangar. I noticed that the hangar was cooler than the office that we just exited. Two Grays then escorted me to the same little saucer that had been waiting for me on the other side of the hangar. A third Gray was standing on the left side of the hatch. The hatch door was simply a portion of the rim of the saucer, and it was apparently hinged at the bottom. The steps were built into the inner side of this hatch, so that when this portion of the outer rim of the saucer swung down to the ground, you could use these hatch steps to climb through the opening in the craft. However, due to the small size of the craft, I think that these steps were designed more for the benefit of small Grays than humans. They strapped me in my seat and flew me back to our campsite at .

The next morning I woke up feeling awful. My asthma was much worse, probably because they had shoved that tube into my lungs. I knew that I had been abducted, but I figured that it was just another one of my usual Grays abductions. When I recovered the memory of these two abductions three weeks later, I wasn't prepared for this rude awakening. I can't express in words the horrible shock I experienced when I realized that I was abducted not only by Grays, but by our own military personnel. It is one thing to read about it happening to other abductees. It is quite another matter when it happens to you personally-for it confirms that the military/intelligence establishment has subverted our constitutional government. It confirms that our government is no longer "of the people, by the people, and for the people. " It confirms that an elite faction of our government has committed treason by aiding and abetting the enemy . This reality just sort of popped up and slapped me hard in the face. I knew from this point forward, my life would never be the same. I began to realize that I now had to take on the unpleasant responsibility of informing the American people not only of the truth about the insidious activities of the abducting ETs and their cohorts, but also of the military/intelligence takeover of our country.

The Eye of Ra, by Truman L. Cash.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/2373539/truman-cash-the-eye-of-ra-pdf-november-15-2010-10-54-pm-15-2-meg?da=y

Download the PDF to THE EYE OF RA here: http://www.lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip

or here: http://freepdfebookstodownload.blogspot.com/2010/11/eye-of-ra-book-2.html

or here: http://freepdfebookstodownload.blogspot.com/2010/11/eye-of-ra-book-2.html

Read more: http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=10552##ixzz1UeEWHgga

cybersurf
11-08-2011, 01:33 AM
After a person is subject of ET abductions, they become the subject of USA military abductions too:

It might be dificult to demand compensaton from abducting ETs, given that their governments are in another star system or galaxy, but one should demand compensation from USA military abudction. You only have to go to Washington.

http://getfreshdaily.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54f900c38883301127908fc5c28a4-800wi


Evidence For Military Kidnappings Of Alleged UFO Abductees


Preliminary Findings Of Project MILAB:

Evidence For Military Kidnappings Of Alleged UFO Abductees

By Helmut Lammer Ph.D. ©1996

I. Introduction

UFO abductions are generally a very strange and complex phenomenon. For skeptics, journalists and the public, it is difficult to believe that abductions by alien beings have their basis in physical reality. Reports of alien beings entering bedrooms through walls, and levitating abductees through closed windows and into a waiting craft are hard to believe for the open minded researcher too. However, well respected researchers have shown that the core of the UFO abduction phenomenon cannot be explained psychologically as hallucinations or mass delusions [1]. The passing decades of abduction research have brought changes as well. Recently, some UFO abductees have reported that they have also been kidnapped by military intelligence personnel (MILAB) and taken to hospitals and/or military facilities, some of which are described as being underground.

Very few of the popular books on the subject of UFO abductions have mentioned these experiences. Especially disconcerting is the fact that abductees recall seeing military intelligence personnel together with alien beings, working side by side in these secret facilities. The presence of human military and civilian personnel occupying the same physical reality as alien beings exceeds the mind-sets of the skeptics and the open-minded researchers by several orders of magnitude. The skeptics would rather believe that stories of aliens and military personnel in governmental underground facilities are fabrications designed to elicit attention from conspiracy believers or hallucinations in general. Researchers in the field of mind control suggest that these cases are evidence that the whole UFO abduction phenomenon is staged by the intelligence community as a cover for their illegal experiments [2]. The open-minded researchers who are trying to gain respect for abduction research ignore these stories, since they represent only a minor fraction of the cases in their files [3]. I think that abduction cases involving abductee reports of being abducted by the military as well as alien beings, are very important for two reasons:

1.) If the UFO community has evidence that a covert military intelligence task force is involved in the abduction phenomenon, we would know that this phenomenon represents a matter of national security.

2.) The alleged military involvement in the abduction phenomenon could be evidence that the military uses abductees for mind control experiments as test-targets for microwave weapons. Moreover, the military could be monitoring and even kidnapping abductees for information gathering purposes during, before and after a UFO abduction. If either of these points are correct, researchers and victims can expect to run into early resistance when proposing Congressional hearings concerning UFOs and abductions. It is for this reason that I have created Project MILAB and present in this article my preliminary findings of this study. MILAB is the acronym for Military Abductions of alleged UFO Abductees. I reviewed the relevant literature, contacted UFO and mind control researchers, as well as MILAB abductees and mind control victims from all over the world. I have compared my findings with the comprehensive UFO Abduction Study by Dr. Thomas Bullard [4,5], the MUFON Abduction Transcription Project [6,7] and the MIT Abduction Proceedings [1].

II. Helicopter Activity in Connection with MILABs

My study indicates that MILAB abductees are harassed by dark, unmarked helicopters that fly around their houses. The mysterious helicopter activity goes back to the late sixties and early seventies, when they showed an apparent interest in animal mutilations, but not in alleged UFO abductees [8, 9, 10]. However, well-known researcher Raymond E. Fowler reports some helicopter activity in connection with UFO witnesses during the seventies [11]. Dr. Thomas Bullard compared 270 UFO abduction cases worldwide from 1968 to 1984. The majority of these cases occurred during the seventies and early eighties [4,5]. I found only 4 abduction cases in Dr. Bullard's study where the abductees saw helicopters over or near their houses. Among these cases is the well investigated Betty Andreasson-Luca abduction.

Importantly, these helicopter cases occurred in North America; three within the United States and one in Canada. Curiously, there were also sightings of mysterious helicopters in England during the seventies, but they were not connected with animal mutilations or UFO abductions [12]. I have discovered that the helicopter activity associated with UFO abductions has increased from the eighties to the present day. Dan Wright has ten cases in the MUFON Transcription Project files (at the time of this publication), where helicopters were seen flying in the area of the abductee's home within hours of an alleged UFO abduction [7]. I have also found that many abduction researchers in North America have, on average, about three helicopter cases connected with UFO abductions, in their files. It appears to me that this is a North American phenomenon since none of the contacted researchers in Australia, Africa, Europe and South America have well investigated abduction cases that are connected with helicopter activity.

http://www.hyper.net/ufo/vs/m09-021.html

nomo
11-08-2011, 02:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neauCxZjv1s

here is a video of a bunker we found near Bath, this secret underground city was built to house the government in the event of a nuclear attack! There are many miles of roads, dormitories, industrial kitchens, a hospital, bakery., laundry, BBC broadcast room, Lamson tube system, store rooms, reservoir, PA System, telephone exchange and loads more...

It is managed by a company call 'Interserve'

The British government's alternative seat of power in the event of a nuclear strike on the UK.

Conceived: 1956

Completed: 1961

Decommissioned: 1991

Declassified: 2004

Districts: 22

Depth: 60-100 feet below ground.

Dimensions: 1km long and 200 meters across.

Area: 35 acres.

Transport: A fleet of battery powered buggies navigated 10 miles of tunnel.

Inhabitants: 4000 government ministers and civil servants including the Prime Minister, Cabinet Office, local and national government agencies, intelligence and security advisors and domestic support staff.

Facilities: Infirmary, bakery, laundry, two large kitchens and serving areas, telephone exchange, store rooms, office space, living accommodation, maintenance areas and workshops and an area for the storage and charging of the bunker's electric buggies.


it took us over a month to find an entrance

there is still power down there so we got the buggies working :)

the scary thing is that the CCC is very close

Corsham Computer Centre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

it develops the trident nuclear program and is on SKYNET drive....

decim
11-08-2011, 02:48 AM
DUMBF#CKS

Deep Underground Military Bases For Underhand Criminal Kvetching Shylocks...

nomo
11-08-2011, 02:52 AM
DUMBF#CKS

Deep Underground Military Bases For Underhand Criminal Kvetching Shylocks...

you what mate?

decim
11-08-2011, 02:55 AM
DEAFDUMBF#CKS

Devilish Elitist Avaricious F#ckers Deep Underground Military Bases For Underhand Criminal Kvetching Shylocks...

you what mate?

nomo
11-08-2011, 03:01 AM
DEAFDUMBF#CKS

Devilish Elitist Avaricious F#ckers Deep Underground Military Bases For Underhand Criminal Kvetching Shylocks...

what are you chattin about

decim
11-08-2011, 03:05 AM
ZOMBIDEAFDUMBF#CKS

Zionist Ordered Morlock Initiated Devilish Elitist Avaricious F#ckers Deep Underground Military Bases For Underhand Criminal Kvetching Shylocks...

what are you chattin about

nomo
11-08-2011, 03:07 AM
ZOMBIDEAFDUMBF#CKS

Zionist Ordered Morlock Initiated Devilish Elitist Avaricious F#ckers Deep Underground Military Bases For Underhand Criminal Kvetching Shylocks...

chill out mate

decim
11-08-2011, 03:11 AM
ACRONYM

Am Chillin Right Out Nomo Yo Mutha

chill out mate

decim
11-08-2011, 05:24 PM
Gabe Valdez (http://www.openminds.tv/nm-officer-investigated-cattle-mutilation-underground-bases-passes-752/) was a former New Mexico state patrol officer in charge of the Dulce, New Mexico area.

ALIENZOMBIDEAFDUMBF#CKS

Advanced Lizard Intelligence Engaged NWO Zionist Ordered Morlock Initiated Devilish Elitist Avaricious F#ckers Deep Underground Military Bases For Underhand Criminal Kvetching Shylocks...

nomo
16-08-2011, 03:27 PM
Gabe Valdez (http://www.openminds.tv/nm-officer-investigated-cattle-mutilation-underground-bases-passes-752/) was a former New Mexico state patrol officer in charge of the Dulce, New Mexico area.




interesting if true

cybersurf
17-08-2011, 07:46 PM
interesting if true

Originally Posted by decim
Gabe Valdez was a former New Mexico state patrol officer in charge of the Dulce, New Mexico area.


Most probably he had found entrances, but captured, implanted and made to forget the event.

manxboz
17-08-2011, 11:31 PM
Most probably he had found entrances, but captured, implanted and made to forget the event.

Or maybe he never found entrances and thus that is why he knows nothing.

cybersurf
18-08-2011, 01:35 AM
Or maybe he never found entrances and thus that is why he knows nothing.

But there is independent accounts of people finding accidentally entrances to undergroun bases and implanted and made to forget, and then recovering those memories by non hypnotic memory retrieval techniques and tellin us.

Gave said he was searching for entrances to the Dulce base.

cybersurf
10-01-2012, 01:25 AM
In this exaustive description of undeground bases, many of them in California, it is interesting to find that many are run by FEMA.

~Don Croft

*************************************************

Underground Bases listed by State



CALIFORNIA

29. Presidio, CA - A FEMA/DOD site for Region IX's regional office
30. San Bernardino, CO, 34º 50' N to 34° 16' N
31. Santa Barbara County - placed in the thick diatomite strata
32. Santa Rosa, 38º 26.4' N 122º 42.9' W, FEMA, Regional center for west coast, what FEMA is doing is mostly kept secret. This is listed as a Communications Antenna Field, but is doing much more.


COLORADO

39. Colorado Springs, NORAD --Canada & U.S., & FEMA, hundreds of people on staff, contains at least 4.5 cubic miles of underground caverns and forty five underground steel buildings. Many underground chambers are as large as 50, x 100 '. This complex tracks thousands of satellites, missiles, submarines, and UFOs. NORAD also controls many Monarch slaves who have ALEX, JANUS, ALEXUS endtime callback programming. NORAD installation has 1278 miles of road underground.


GEORGIA
46. Atlanta, GA --FEMA regional center, which is appropriately placed since Atlanta is to become a capital within the NWO redrawing of boundaries. Atlanta is believed to have several underground installations in its area, one to the north at Kennesaw Mtn., Marietta, GA connected to Dobbins AFB and one to the south of Atlanta at Forest Park.
47. Thomasville, 30° 50.2' N 83°58.9' W, FEMA, regional center, they train groups in Search and Destroy missions for when Martial Law is imposed. This is SW Georgia in area of tunnels.



MARYLAND

55. Olney, actually the facility is between Olney and Laytonsville, on Riggs Rd. off of Rt. 108. Another underground facility may also exist in the area, FEMA & possibly NSA, the facility may be 10 levels deep, purpose unknown.
56. Suitland, MD- Classified archives of U.S. Govt. stored here in underground levels. Vaults have extensive amounts of documents which are not indexed. Restricted access with a coded security card. High level intelligence groups operate in the area also.

MASSACHUSETTS
57. Maynard, 42° 26.0' N 71° 27.0' W FEMA, regional center, Wackenhut is here too.

MICHIGAN
58. Battle Creek, 42° 19.3' N 85° 10.9' W FEMA, regional center, activity secret (not validated)



OKLAHOMA
88. Ada, 34°46.4' N 96°40.7W W, underground saucer base, this base does uman cloning, and it is FEMA's most sensitive base.


OREGON

92. Klamath Falls, OR--since Sept. '95 this has been a base for a number of NWO groups including the Air National Guard, FEMA, CIA, FBI, Spetznaz, and Page 306 ...
MOSAP training base. An underground concentration camp exists here.


TEXAS

95. Denton, TX, 33° 13.2'N 97° 08.2'W - FEMA, regional center, activity secret


VIRGINIA
97. Bluemont, Mount Weather base, Federal Preparedness Agency & FEMA, small-city underground, top-secret, staff of several hundred, does secret work for FEMA and contains a complete secret government with the various agencies and cabinet-level ranking administrators that keep their positions for several administrations and help run the United States.

WASHINGTON
101. Bothell, 47°45.7'N 122°12.2w W, FEMA, regional center, activity unknown



© Copyright 2002-2004 Educate-Yourself.org All Rights Reserved.



http://educate-yourself.org/dc/undergroundbaseslisted08feb04.shtml

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indolering
10-01-2012, 02:42 AM
In this exaustive description of undeground bases, many of them in California, it is interesting to find that many are run by FEMA.

http://educate-yourself.org/dc/undergroundbaseslisted08feb04.shtml

http://usahitman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/aa-Dees-chipped-America.jpg

Educate-yourself.org is a great site for lots of important alternative news and information.... :cool:

cybersurf
10-01-2012, 09:17 PM
Educate-yourself.org is a great site for lots of important alternative news and information.... :cool:

Really... Just look:

British Israel: The Hidden Hand Behind the
'The Kingdom of God on Earth' Deception

From Ken Adachi <E-mail>
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/britishisraelhiddenhand10jul05.shtml
July 10, 2005

British Israel: The Hidden Hand Behind the 'The Kingdom of God on Earth' Deception (July 10, 2005)

British Israel Uses Christian Fundamentalist Evangelicals to Promote the "Kingdom of God on Earth' Scheme to Deliver Up A One World Society-Both Feudal and Fascist

"British Israel" is a term used by the anonymous author of a brilliantly written 1970 book titled The Union Jack, to describe the manipulative efforts of elite British oligarchs (on behalf of the Rothchilds) to create a one world feudal society-controlled by British oligarchs of course-by first creating the state of Israel (via the British inspired 1917 Balfour Declaration), and then using Christian fundamentalist propagandists to promote the idea that Christ will physically return to Earth and will rule a "Kingdom of God on Earth' for a thousand years (the 'Millennium') from His earthly throne in....you guessed it... Jerusalem!

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/britishisraelhiddenhand10jul05.shtml

http://www.british-israel.us/israel/Abraham's-Family-Tree002.jpg

Who would sit in the throne?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_l2VT7bYUEaY/TOLjOD4lbCI/AAAAAAAAL2o/FYG_BniyzJE/s1600/i-am-not-a-reptilian.jpg

busa
10-01-2012, 10:05 PM
One of my mates worked at BAD Kineton or whatever its called now. They change its name every year. It has its own motorway junction built on the M40 motorway. Junction 12 Gaydon. Google earth it ?

Its one of the UKs biggest underground bases. It has its own underground railway. The guys on the base know where the entrance is, but clearance is needed to go down. The above ground railway goes below ground.

You can sit ontop of the Burton Dasset hills right next to the base and look over it, although its a massive area theres nothing much to see because its all below ground. There is a lot of road subsidence around there too, the roads are like a roller coaster ride.

I reckon all UK military bases are linked underground by railway. I think they are linked to the other DUMBS around the world too. Its a global network.

cybersurf
11-01-2012, 06:54 AM
One of my mates worked at BAD Kineton or whatever its called now. They change its name every year. It has its own motorway junction built on the M40 motorway. Junction 12 Gaydon. Google earth it ?

Its one of the UKs biggest underground bases. It has its own underground railway. The guys on the base know where the entrance is, but clearance is needed to go down. The above ground railway goes below ground.

You can sit ontop of the Burton Dasset hills right next to the base and look over it, although its a massive area theres nothing much to see because its all below ground. There is a lot of road subsidence around there too, the roads are like a roller coaster ride.

I reckon all UK military bases are linked underground by railway. I think they are linked to the other DUMBS around the world too. Its a global network.

Interesting reference:


http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpTSAcLLpP-CaIGUJgeljP7HOPf-Pb1XqqE7QN8OaZKl_9rKZr6RtvjwLF

apollo_gnomon
11-01-2012, 07:01 AM
Without any other information than the dinky picture posted I can identify those structures.

Bunkers, used for storage of ammunition and explosives on military bases.

That's it. Nothing mysterious. Just concrete buildings with dirt on the sides.

bikerdruid
11-01-2012, 07:05 AM
Without any other information than the dinky picture posted I can identify those structures.

Bunkers, used for storage of ammunition and explosives on military bases.

That's it. Nothing mysterious. Just concrete buildings with dirt on the sides.

some of these folks have their tinfoil hats way too tight.

busa
11-01-2012, 10:19 AM
some of these folks have their tinfoil hats way too tight.

Depends who you know who works on the base.
Two of my bike mates ;)

cybersurf
12-01-2012, 05:39 AM
Without any other information than the dinky picture posted I can identify those structures.

Bunkers, used for storage of ammunition and explosives on military bases.

That's it. Nothing mysterious. Just concrete buildings with dirt on the sides.

RIGHT! that is exactly what he picture texts states, bunkers for storange munition... you didn't think they were going to show you the several undeground secret levels... right? Specially the levels with cages for human genetics experiments, or the criogenic storage of failed experiments... did you?

Not to mention the UFO angars, right?

Now you can compete with people who have worked on those bases, or abducted to them... you can say them you saw the ammo storage bunkers. You would have been happy to tell Phil Schneider, who worked on building them, and shot some of the ETs, as well as FBI agents who wanted to kill him afterwardsj for disclosing the secret levels.

Or a Dulce Security Personel, who saw the cages and criogenic storage vats. If he is not dead allready you can tell him you saw the BAD Kineton ammo bunkers online... thanks to a post by cybersurf...

cybersurf
12-01-2012, 05:46 AM
some of these folks have their tinfoil hats way too tight.

You betcha! Like believing that a trilion dollar black budget is just for building some concreete ammo storage buildings in those military bases.

cybersurf
12-01-2012, 05:49 AM
Depends who you know who works on the base.
Two of my bike mates ;)

I know from experience that the lower ranks know more on the operatin of secret places than the very top brass.

If you want to know the truth on a secret place, don't ask the CEO or commander of the place.

heartbeatsalute
12-01-2012, 05:54 AM
I know from experience that the lower ranks know more on the operatin of secret places than the very top brass.

If you want to know the truth on a secret place, don't ask the CEO or commander of the place.

Of course, people in lower ranks do all the hard work ,so they know by experience, commanders of CEO have no idea.

So many black budgets, yet we have a big "economic crisis"...:D

apollo_gnomon
12-01-2012, 05:58 AM
You betcha! Like believing that a trilion dollar black budget is just for building some concreete ammo storage buildings in those military bases.

What are you trying to say, cybersurf? Are you suggesting that the image you posted is of something other than ammo bunkers?

busa
12-01-2012, 09:29 AM
I know from experience that the lower ranks know more on the operatin of secret places than the very top brass.

If you want to know the truth on a secret place, don't ask the CEO or commander of the place.

Ask the cleaning staff !

busa
12-01-2012, 09:35 AM
One of the great things about bikes is they break down any barriers.
We are all equal on two wheels.

We had a biker from a USAF base hang around with our crowd of bikers for a couple of years who claimed to be a high ranking Special Ops pilot, with full immunity from prosecution in the UK.

Amazing stuff when we sat down and talked, which he had to be very carefull of what he said mind you. He had a wife and kids back home and was wise to the fact they were vulnerable and he had also signed a 70 year secrecy agreement as part of his rank/job.

But basically his bosses didn't think we should know or have the right to know about alien life/presence here on earth.

philthy53
12-01-2012, 09:48 AM
But basically his bosses didn't think we should know or have the right to know about alien life/presence here on earth.

His bosses sound very smart. Since there is zero evidence of any extraterritorial visitors. Why talk about something that's not even real?

No military on earth has briefings about Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny either. I wonder why that is?

Phil

manxboz
12-01-2012, 09:48 AM
One of the great things about bikes is they break down any barriers.
We are all equal on two wheels.

We had a biker from a USAF base hang around with our crowd of bikers for a couple of years who claimed to be a high ranking Special Ops pilot, with full immunity from prosecution in the UK.

Amazing stuff when we sat down and talked, which he had to be very carefull of what he said mind you. He had a wife and kids back home and was wise to the fact they were vulnerable and he had also signed a 70 year secrecy agreement as part of his rank/job.

But basically his bosses didn't think we should know or have the right to know about alien life/presence here on earth.

One:- Only way to get immunity from Prosecution in a Foreign Country is Diplomatic Immunity.

Two:- Soldiers sign the Official Secrets Act all the time. I signed one when Serving. My Grandmother signed one when being a Nurse, My Grandfather signed one when in the RE. Father Signed one when in the Rangers. So by claiming of signing a secrecy act means nothing really. It's a crowd pleaser for the uninformed sorry to say.

busa
12-01-2012, 11:33 AM
One:- Only way to get immunity from Prosecution in a Foreign Country is Diplomatic Immunity.

Two:- Soldiers sign the Official Secrets Act all the time. I signed one when Serving. My Grandmother signed one when being a Nurse, My Grandfather signed one when in the RE. Father Signed one when in the Rangers. So by claiming of signing a secrecy act means nothing really. It's a crowd pleaser for the uninformed sorry to say.

And ?

This guy could have been the base janitor for all I know, he could have just have been a wide mouthed Texan bullshitter?

He did tell me about alien tech being used in USAF craft. The multi billion dollar craft flying out of Fairford all the time as he put it. But as I say he could have just been a bullshitter.

Dont jump to any conlusions with me mate.

busa
12-01-2012, 11:35 AM
His bosses sound very smart. Since there is zero evidence of any extraterritorial visitors. Why talk about something that's not even real?

No military on earth has briefings about Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny either. I wonder why that is?

Phil

A total non-statement.
Why bother posting that meaningless pap?

busa
12-01-2012, 11:41 AM
You closet experts would know USAF special ops pilots have different levels of security and some carry full diplomatic immunity?

Not bad for a "pilot"?

manxboz
12-01-2012, 04:47 PM
And ?

This guy could have been the base janitor for all I know, he could have just have been a wide mouthed Texan bullshitter?

He did tell me about alien tech being used in USAF craft. The multi billion dollar craft flying out of Fairford all the time as he put it. But as I say he could have just been a bullshitter.

Dont jump to any conlusions with me mate.

Not jumping them with you, just pointing out things. If you don't want to hear them, then really you shouldn't be posting on a Public Forum for Discussion.

He could be genuine, or he could be a BSer repeating what he heard on the latest episode of UFO Hunters. The amount of people I have met in my time who have claimed to be Spec Ops are too numerous to count, but the vast majority of them turn out to be liars or even worse, never have served at all.

We just have to be careful when hearing these things, that's all.

apollo_gnomon
12-01-2012, 05:25 PM
His bosses sound very smart. Since there is zero evidence of any extraterritorial visitors. Why talk about something that's not even real?

No military on earth has briefings about Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny either. I wonder why that is?

Phil

Uh, NORAD? Santa tracking? :D

manxboz
12-01-2012, 05:50 PM
Uh, NORAD? Santa tracking? :D

I was thinking that, but wasn't going to say anything :p

silentnomore
13-01-2012, 12:05 AM
Staffordshire (entrance)

I used to live in Staffordshire and am really curious to find out just where this entrance is supposed to be. The only real references I can find to its location online is a note in a very old book as follows:

Staffordshire, England Entrance
Somewhere in Staffordshire, England, a lonely field exists in which a laborer discovered a large iron plate beneath the dirt. The "hatch" was large and oval, with an iron ring mounted on it. This entrance led into the tunnels. The field is in a valley surrounded on almost all sides by woods. The laborer was digging a trench for some purpose. The incident was reported in "A History of Staffordshire" by Dr. Plot, who wrote the book in the late 1700s. It may be possible to find the entrance if it can be ascertained exactly which valley the laborer was digging in.

There's also this (http://www.stokes277.freeserve.co.uk/), and this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/stoke/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9047000/9047470.stm), but they're not necessarily related.

Does anyone else have any more info on this?

cybersurf
13-01-2012, 05:29 AM
Ask the cleaning staff !

That always gives you the most intimate secrets of the hyger ups.

cybersurf
13-01-2012, 05:31 AM
One of the great things about bikes is they break down any barriers.
We are all equal on two wheels.

We had a biker from a USAF base hang around with our crowd of bikers for a couple of years who claimed to be a high ranking Special Ops pilot, with full immunity from prosecution in the UK.

Amazing stuff when we sat down and talked, which he had to be very carefull of what he said mind you. He had a wife and kids back home and was wise to the fact they were vulnerable and he had also signed a 70 year secrecy agreement as part of his rank/job.

But basically his bosses didn't think we should know or have the right to know about alien life/presence here on earth.

Most probably he'll discover that his Commander was an ET. I found out about that myself.

cybersurf
13-01-2012, 05:34 AM
His bosses sound very smart. Since there is zero evidence of any extraterritorial visitors. Why talk about something that's not even real?

No military on earth has briefings about Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny either. I wonder why that is?

Phil

Santa or the Easter Bunny do not get trillion black budgets to hyde their presence either.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KzxvFUFAz-A/S3GLdVc_7rI/AAAAAAAAAfA/-Db8X-3aHPw/s320/rosswell+daily+record.jpg

cybersurf
13-01-2012, 05:37 AM
=manxboz;1060512330]One:- Only way to get immunity from Prosecution in a Foreign Country is Diplomatic Immunity.

Come on... CIA murderers are no diplomats and have immunity arround the world.

Two:- Soldiers sign the Official Secrets Act all the time. I signed one when Serving. My Grandmother signed one when being a Nurse, My Grandfather signed one when in the RE. Father Signed one when in the Rangers. So by claiming of signing a secrecy act means nothing really. It's a crowd pleaser for the uninformed sorry to say.

I was no USA "marine" and signed a waiver... if I say something of that I might be charged thousands of dollars.

cybersurf
13-01-2012, 05:47 AM
And ?

This guy could have been the base janitor for all I know, he could have just have been a wide mouthed Texan bullshitter?

He did tell me about alien tech being used in USAF craft. The multi billion dollar craft flying out of Fairford all the time as he put it. But as I say he could have just been a bullshitter.

Dont jump to any conlusions with me mate.

Have heard of the stealth bomber ussing ET tech to fly. The problem is that the USAF payes with our lives to slavery to get that tech. Was that the craft of Fairfrord he speaks about?

Don't know if he has ben a wide mouthed texan bulshiter, but the ET tech on USAF craft is a reality.

Did the guy told you what craft was that? Please, feel safe to tell whatever he might have told, that does not put him to danger of being loose tonged or endanger his familly.

The craft with ET tech:

According to interviews of ‘government insiders’, Richard Boylan claims that the B2 stealth bomber operates largely using anti-gravity technology for its propulsion system but this is not disclosed to the general public who believe it relies on conventional fuel sources.[89]

http://exopolitics.org/Study-Paper1.htm

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/12/article-1180613-04E4DAEE000005DC-289_634x439.jpghttp://www.darkgovernment.com/b2clouds.jpeg

cybersurf
13-01-2012, 05:56 AM
Not jumping them with you, just pointing out things. If you don't want to hear them, then really you shouldn't be posting on a Public Forum for Discussion.

He could be genuine, or he could be a BSer repeating what he heard on the latest episode of UFO Hunters. The amount of people I have met in my time who have claimed to be Spec Ops are too numerous to count, but the vast majority of them turn out to be liars or even worse, never have served at all.

We just have to be careful when hearing these things, that's all.

Not to mention the ones who have been special ops but get killed before speaking, or get their families threatened and come out stating they have never been spacial ops and have never served and their governmental files disapeared.

cybersurf
13-01-2012, 05:58 AM
Uh, NORAD? Santa tracking? :D

Good! and who is tracking the Easter Bunny? FBI?

cybersurf
13-01-2012, 06:03 AM
I used to live in Staffordshire and am really curious to find out just where this entrance is supposed to be. The only real references I can find to its location online is a note in a very old book as follows:



There's also this (http://www.stokes277.freeserve.co.uk/), and this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/stoke/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9047000/9047470.stm), but they're not necessarily related.

Does anyone else have any more info on this?

As far as I know, the DUMBs in known military bases need not camouflage. You will not be allowed unless you have clearances or are an abductee or an experiment.

In the case of no visible evidence in the surface, screens are used, holographic screens, and if you happen to stumble on them, you get unconscious and brainwashed and dumped in another place with your memory of that errased.

busa
13-01-2012, 11:16 AM
Not jumping them with you, just pointing out things. If you don't want to hear them, then really you shouldn't be posting on a Public Forum for Discussion.

He could be genuine, or he could be a BSer repeating what he heard on the latest episode of UFO Hunters. The amount of people I have met in my time who have claimed to be Spec Ops are too numerous to count, but the vast majority of them turn out to be liars or even worse, never have served at all.

We just have to be careful when hearing these things, that's all.

I am sorry that read as complete verbage, I have no idea what you are saying.

busa
13-01-2012, 11:32 AM
Have heard of the stealth bomber ussing ET tech to fly. The problem is that the USAF payes with our lives to slavery to get that tech. Was that the craft of Fairfrord he speaks about?

Don't know if he has ben a wide mouthed texan bulshiter, but the ET tech on USAF craft is a reality.

Did the guy told you what craft was that? Please, feel safe to tell whatever he might have told, that does not put him to danger of being loose tonged or endanger his familly.

The craft with ET tech:



http://exopolitics.org/Study-Paper1.htm

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/12/article-1180613-04E4DAEE000005DC-289_634x439.jpghttp://www.darkgovernment.com/b2clouds.jpeg

The guy was cagey about saying anything about his knowledge of covert ET stuff, as he said because of his family back home.
I just talked about ET and UFOs and he nodded in agreement or not depending on his point of view.
But he was still on "that side of the fence" and he had loyalty to his unit.

The only time he mentioned any craft was when I had been talking about the covert military using alien technology in their craft. He seemed to get angry with me like he thought I was dumb for not knowing about the "mutli-billion dollar USAF craft flying in and out of RAF Fairford every day". He said I should get off my ass and get down there to see it if I wanted to see alien tech.
He was implying or irritated I knew little on this subject. Easy said when he was sat on their side of the fence?

But all the same he could have been a bullshitter. I was not convinced with this guy and I'm still 50/50 whether he was a special ops or just the base janitor. He was a bad lad and had a real bad attitude that seemed to go with his claim he had full diplomatic immunity? Classic "Fly boy" attitude maybe?

When he wasnt being hyper, he was very serious and very straight talking.
He got a buzz from bikes so he hung around with our crowd of sports bike riders for a year or two.
Tbh he was dead funny and fucking outrageuos ! I nearly choked many a time laughing at his antics ! He was so rude to people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

busa
13-01-2012, 11:46 AM
With regards aircraft using ET tech there are very obviously different grades of covertness and grades of technology that are allowed to be seen within the general private/public domain or knowledge.

The covert military needs the engineering and scientific expertese out here on this side of the fence. So they have to put some things out for help with development, but nothing anyone could put 2 and 2 together about.

I met a genius materials and technology guy out in a lovely country house and he had a huge barn out in the back garden where he did work for the F1 teams, NASA and various extremely wealthy clients who wanted their cars re-upholstered. His place was littered with brand new Rolls Royces that were minging dirty with tree sap in a queue waiting to be re-upholstered. But the guy hadn't got the time or space as he had the Sultan of Brunei's superstretch 4X4 Lexus limo in the barn. I sat inside this behemoth with all the internals gutted ready for a refit.

BTW, this guy was sent "materials" directly by NASA for him to test/use in whatever practical application he wanted or as directed by NASA.
He was a very skilled guy !! Very clever too and had a lot of connections.

We talked for ages and he is a cool guy. He did some small work for me.
Some of the fabric material NASA sent, he did not like it. He told us when he cut the fabric with scirrors, it gave off dust particles of some kind that moved around erratically in the air and started floating all over the place. He was not happy with this dust I can tell you, so he said he sent it back to NASA and refused to work with it !

NASA and no doubt covert military groups do test shit out in the public field, on this side.

busa
13-01-2012, 11:55 AM
I think it was about 5 years ago when one of the Pentagon bosses was up before Congress being asked why the military could not explain why there was $2.7 trillion USD missing from their budget?

Made me laugh !
This Pentagon top guy just stood there and said he could not explain why $2.7 trillion was unaccounted for.

We know !

manxboz
13-01-2012, 04:11 PM
I am sorry that read as complete verbage, I have no idea what you are saying.

You stated:-

Dont jump to any conlusions with me mate.

I responded to that by saying i'm not.

busa
13-01-2012, 04:28 PM
You stated:-

Dont jump to any conlusions with me mate.

I responded to that by saying i'm not.

Ahhhhh good, sorry I'm having a bad day today..... pain.

manxboz
13-01-2012, 04:33 PM
Ahhhhh good, sorry I'm having a bad day today..... pain.

I'm sorry to hear that, hope you feel better soon.

busa
13-01-2012, 04:39 PM
I'm sorry to hear that, hope you feel better soon.

Thanks matey, sadly no its lifetime spinal and other skeletal pain of the chronic kind.

Long story about a bike smash and an appointment with death. I managed to sidestep the reaper though !

silentnomore
15-01-2012, 01:25 AM
Just found this today: Burlington Bunker, Corsham, Wiltshire (http://www.burlingtonbunker.co.uk/)

As a schoolkid me and one of my mates were lucky enough to sneak into a massive underground network of huge tunnels under South London. These tunnels were way deeper than the underground tube network as it took us about 45mins - 1 hour of walking down a spiral staircase to get to the bottom. At the bottom there was a network of HUGE half dome tunnels and at the end of every tunnel there was room with about 6-10 doors, each with another tunnel behind it.
We were down there exploring all day and we would have easily got lost if we didn't leave the lights on behind us and prop open doors with fire-extinguishers. There was easily hundreds and hundreds of tunnels all connected into a massive network but what made it even weirder now thinking back is the amount of tunnels that had rows of bunk-bed frames along each side. Some tunnels had stacks of boxes containing tons of medical type files and in hindsight I wish I had looked at these a bit more but I was only a 14-15 year old kid who was more interested in exploring and messing about with fire-extinguishers.

All the entrances to this huge network of tunnels are in round-stone buildings that are situated next to many tube stations in south-london.

Here is the entrance that we managed to get into at Clapham south tube station:


http://realitybomb.com/ads/tunnel.jpg

If you look at most south london tube stations, you will usually always see one of these round stone building very close by which shows you exactly how large this underground network of tunnels is. Personally I believe they are built near to tube stations as a good cover story by saying they are connected to the tube network but I know for a fact they are not. They are so much deeper than any tube. In fact, while we was walking down the spiral staircase we could hear exactly how deep the tube lines were in comparison and by the time we got to the bottom, any tube train overhead was a very distant noise. It may also explain why nearly EVERY tube maintenance budget gets massively over-spent.

Also check out this site for some more of them like Clapham South: Nettleden.com - Disused London Underground Stations (http://www.nettleden.com/venues/london-underground-stations/). That site seems to say the same as you. On Stockwell Station:

Originally there were plans for deep level shelters to be built under ten of the London underground stations on the Northern Line. Construction started in 1940, within two years the shelter at Stockwell was completed, as well as seven others at Belsize Park, Camden Town, Goodge Street, Chancery Lane, Clapham North, Clapham Common and Clapham South.... As well as entry from station level, the shelter had stairwells at each end for access. Both of these access shafts surface in circular, purpose-built brick buildings.

http://www.nettleden.com/uploads/vm_4c4779a784066.jpg

cybersurf
15-01-2012, 01:34 AM
His bosses sound very smart. Since there is zero evidence of any extraterritorial visitors. Why talk about something that's not even real?

No military on earth has briefings about Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny either. I wonder why that is?

Phil

Zero evidence?

First, you are the first evidence... According to Nobel Prize Winner Francis Crick, who was responsible allong with others to map the human genome, your body is an ET. Life on Earth was seaded by ETs.

Crick said it is imposible life have evolved in the time span of Earth, so basic life on Earth was seeded. Even with basic life on Earth, it was imposible developed organisms like human bodies have evolved alone here, so, advanced organisms, like your body, was put here by ETs.

He also found that Junk DNA, that is DNA not being used by human bodies, is dormant DNA of other kind of bodies.

Many of this is in his book "Life Itself"

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mMqqZlTA5oc/TTwGNuZavVI/AAAAAAAAFq4/yfd3L7MynZU/s1600/Francis+Crick+LifeItself.jpg

Next, there is the FBI memo about Rosswell:

FBI Memo reveals flying saucer crashes in 1940s
April 12, 2011

Stories of flying saucer crashes secretly retrieved by elite military teams have been boosted with the release of a new electronic reading room by the FBI known as “The Vault.” Among the documents first released by the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and now more easily accessible to the American public in The Vault is one by Special Agent Guy Hottel. In 1950, Hottel sent a memorandum to J. Edgar Hoover about flying saucer crashes. The Hottel memo is causing a sensation in Britain since the Daily Mail discussed it in a provocative article titled: The memo that ‘proves aliens landed at Roswell’… released online by the FBI.”. The Daily Mail story was quickly followed by other major media outlets. The memo is startling since it reveals that an unidentified Air Force Investigator, most likely with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, was relaying accurate information about three flying saucer crashes recovered by the Air Force in the 1940s to an FBI Special Agent.

The Hottel Memo states:

Three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50ft in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3ft tall dressed in a metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots.

http://news.exopoliticsinstitute.org/index.php/fbi-memo-reveals-flying-saucer-crashes-in-1940s/

mixedupjim
16-01-2012, 01:06 AM
I live I Staffordshire and I've tried to track down the hatch before. Unfortunately there isn't enough info to even begin to find the field mentioned

silentnomore
22-01-2012, 04:12 PM
No, I know, it's incredibly frustrating. I managed to track down an online copy of the book I referred to earlier by Dr Plot, but it was in a Australian library, and they asked that I presented them with some form of proof of Australian nationality in order to view the book, which obviously I couldn't do....

So I'm at a bit of a loss as to where to go next with it....

cybersurf
23-01-2012, 01:42 AM
No, I know, it's incredibly frustrating. I managed to track down an online copy of the book I referred to earlier by Dr Plot, but it was in a Australian library, and they asked that I presented them with some form of proof of Australian nationality in order to view the book, which obviously I couldn't do....

So I'm at a bit of a loss as to where to go next with it....

I saw it in non english soft paperback. But shure you can not find it in main university medicine schools.

On line? I wonder if it has copyright expired.

manxboz
23-01-2012, 09:39 AM
No, I know, it's incredibly frustrating. I managed to track down an online copy of the book I referred to earlier by Dr Plot, but it was in a Australian library, and they asked that I presented them with some form of proof of Australian nationality in order to view the book, which obviously I couldn't do....

So I'm at a bit of a loss as to where to go next with it....

What is the book called?

cybersurf
24-01-2012, 06:15 AM
What is the book called?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mMqqZlTA5oc/TTwGNuZavVI/AAAAAAAAFq4/yfd3L7MynZU/s1600/Francis+Crick+LifeItself.jpg

Life Itself
Its origin and nature.

by Francis Crick.

trumancash
24-01-2012, 04:14 PM
Hi, folks. I just want to let you know that I finally found my password and I'm back on the forum.

Peace,
Truman Cash

manxboz
24-01-2012, 08:54 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mMqqZlTA5oc/TTwGNuZavVI/AAAAAAAAFq4/yfd3L7MynZU/s1600/Francis+Crick+LifeItself.jpg

Life Itself
Its origin and nature.

by Francis Crick.

That's the one he is trying to find?

Well a quick search on google I can find many results:-

Amazon.com: Life Itself: Its Origin and Nature (9780671255633): Francis Crick: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517X9aILmWL.@@AMEPARAM@@517X9aILmWL

Also here is some DLs:-

https://sites.google.com/site/lostbooksfordownloadss/Download-Ebook-USA-Life-Itself-Its-Origin-and-Nature

http://blog.livedoor.jp/vqsuobacd/archives/1514414.html

So seems fairly easy to get hold off.

silentnomore
24-01-2012, 11:36 PM
No, no, it's not that one. It's "A (Natural) History of Staffordshire" by Dr Robert Plot, written in 1686, I believe. And it appears I've solved my own problem: see this link (http://www.midlandshistoricaldata.org/SHPLoader.aspx?x=books_staffs.html&sc=1366) where you can order a scanned copy of the book on CD. Never mind, I'll have to grab a copy when I can.

cybersurf
25-01-2012, 02:16 AM
Hi, folks. I just want to let you know that I finally found my password and I'm back on the forum.

Peace,
Truman Cash

Very well. Welcome!

That "Peace," statement sounds like Jesus bringing buddhism to the west... "faster your seat belts" gess will be better...

cybersurf
25-01-2012, 02:17 AM
That's the one he is trying to find?

Well a quick search on google I can find many results:-

http://www.amazon.com/Life-Itself-Its-Origin-Nature/dp/0671255630

Also here is some DLs:-

https://sites.google.com/site/lostbooksfordownloadss/Download-Ebook-USA-Life-Itself-Its-Origin-and-Nature

http://blog.livedoor.jp/vqsuobacd/archives/1514414.html

So seems fairly easy to get hold off.

Thanks a lot!

trumancash
27-01-2012, 09:28 PM
On January 24th Dr. Bill Deagle talked about his knowledge of the tunnel boring machines, Phil Schneider, etc on the Jeff Rense radio show (Rense.com). You have to subscribe to listen to it. Deagle describes how the tunnel boring technology works.

cybersurf
16-04-2012, 05:10 AM
Montauk Base:

That's what the Montauk project was?

No. Phoenix One. After political circles found out about it they wanted it shut down. The people that were running it went to the military and proposed that they could use it to "influence the minds of the enemy". The military loved the idea, and let them use the old Montauk Air Force Base. Among the equipment requested was an old SAGE radar unit, which was on the base. The base was shut down and everything was auctioned off. The group then moved in from the Brookhaven Labs. That began what we call Phoenix Two. They spent the first ten years, from about 1969 to about 1979, researching pure mind control. They started out by taking the output of the SAGE radar, modulating the special wave that Reich had showed them from the weather control process, and combined that with something noticed from the Philadelphia Experiment work. They transmitted about 406 MHz. It would hop around frequencies and change in phase. They used the amplidine concept where you have many stages pulse-modulated. BRF was from 10 cycles to 750 cycles. The pulse width could be varied anywhere from 10 to 75ms. The center frequency was 406MHz generated from a stay-low type function which was referenced from a zero-time function.

Was there any other modulation on this?

There was frequency hopping on it.

So Phoenix Two started in 1969?

Yes, in the period from 1969 to 1971. Phoenix One went from 1948 to 1968. The first part of the mind control project was to take an individual and stand them about 250 feet away from the antenna. The SAGE radar had a peak pulse power of .5 MW. The antenna had a gain of 30db. That means an effective radiated power of at least a gigawatt. It was nominally a gigawatt. Can you imagine what that would do to people? I think its amazing these people are still here. It does things like burn out brain functions, create neurological damage, scar lungs from heat, etc. They tried this with a number of people and there were few survivors.

Where did they get the volunteers for this?

They were just grabbing indigent people off the street and throwing them in front of the radar beam. That's the sort of nonsense that the government loves to do.

Who was in charge of the project at this time?

Dr. John Von Neumann and Jack Pruett.

Any particular agency?

I'm not sure what the agency was. Now, somebody got the brilliant idea to put the subjects directly in line with the gain horn of the antenna. Lo and behold they got their result without burning the people up. They found out that by varying the phase modulation and the frequency hopping and the pulsing of the multiple phases that they could have profound effects on a persons mind.

How many people worked at this installation?

About 30.

Who authorized them use of the base?

The Air Force and the Navy. It was a joint project. There were both Navy and Air Force personnel involved. We have copies of the orders for the Air Force personnel.

What was the cover story for the base?

They had none. It was a derelict base.

It was abandoned. It was turned over to GSA as surplus around 1969 or 1970 when they shut down all the SAGE radar systems.

It was a "non-existent" operation. it was a perfect cover.

Where did they get the funding?

It was totally private.

Corporations?

It didn't originally come from corporations, although it did in later phases. The original money came from the Nazi government.

This is Phoenix One?

No, this is Phoenix Two and Three. In 1944 there was an American troop train that went through a French railroad tunnel carrying $10 billion in Nazi gold which they had found. it was $10 billion at the 1944 price of $20 per ounce. The train was blown up in the tunnel. It killed 51 American soldiers. The gold turned up ten years later at Montauk. This has been verified. That money was used to finance the project for many years as the value of gold went uo. They spent all of it and ran out of money. That's when they tapped on ITT, who funded it. ITT was owned by Krupp in Germany. In terms of personnel, many of the civilians and scientists there were all ex-Nazi's who came from Germany both before and after the war ended. The project was under US Government surveillance. The intelligence community knew what was going on and the CIA monitored everything, as did other government intelligence agencies. The field of players who actually operated on the base was small, between 30 and 50. The funding was entirely private. After 1983, Senator Goldwater found out about it and started an investigation. He couldn't find any trace of government funding. Pruett was the metaphysical director of the project. He was Air Force. After he left Dr. Herman C. Untermann took over. They had an electronics expert, Dr. Mathew E. Zerrett, who came over from Germany in 1946 with Werhner von Braun. Probably the reason that they ran out of money is that they had a total of 25 bases around the United States to support. The last of the bases shut down August 12, 1983. The base at Montauk, where all the stations got their zero-time reference from, shut down and the other two remaining bases went down with it.

What about some of the mind effects?

From what I recall of the program, as I was part of it, I was subjected to the mind control field not as I initially went into the program (because they wanted me initially for my sensitive abilities) but later. I was assigned to the indoctrination of the younger recruits. The first indoctrination turned out to be a disaster. I told them I didn't want anything to do with the program, and they put me in front of this mind beam, and it did do damage to me. Finally, someone said, "shut it off, he isn't going to give in to it" and they shut it off. Others were affected much more seriously than I was. The effects were generally really bad. It could burn your brains out. They would go out and pick kids between the ages of 12 and 16 off the street...

That's where a lot of disappearing American kids went?

We estimate they took 10,000 American children off the street and brought them to Montauk, New Jersey. The total number of people that they pulled off the streets for the 25 stations was about 250,000. What the actual thrust of the program was in terms of all these kids is still a mystery. We still don't know the answers. We know they were fully programmed for something. They were subjected to programming which eventually became more "humane" using advanced electronic techniques. The original programming was Reichian in nature and was more physical. Later they worked out techniques that used computers and electronic programming with the Reichian techniques that took very fast and had little side effects.

Are you aware of any people presently who have been through this?

I've run into people over the years. There is a very specific field identity pattern you can detect if you are sensitive enough. You can spot a person who has been through the Montauk program "five miles away". it's vary distinctive in the way that it's been altered. I've spotted more than a dozen people in the Long Island, New York area.

What about Von Neumann?

He was still alive up until 1989. He has run into a problem with the government as well as other problems, such as a personality split in 1977, when he resigned as director and became a consultant. The government told everyone he died in 1956. The government is still interacting with him.

Were any of the Montauk subjects given psycho tropic drugs?

I don't think so...

They used one drug which was used in connection with the Reich programming to make them more receptive. I don't remember the name of it. The effect of the drug was that it would make you "horny as hell".

Also euphoric at the same time?

Also euphoric, yes.


http://www.freezone.org/mc/e_conv04.htm

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AfKoxIfHEKA/TxiZiCzGMLI/AAAAAAAAcLw/-K6rac3NIjQ/s1600/montauk2.gif

indolering
16-04-2012, 10:01 PM
.
Richard Sauder's latest book:
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9736/51frrf4lylbo2204203200p.jpg


Nazi Engineers, Secret U.S. Military Bases, and Elevators To The Subterranean and Submarine Depths (Part 1)

http://theintelhub.com/2012/04/10/nazi-engineers-secret-u-s-military-bases-and-elevators-to-the-subterranean-and-submarine-depths-part-1/


L.A. to N.Y. in Half an Hour: 10,000 Plus M.P.H. Tunnel Train Used for Underground Bases?

http://theintelhub.com/2012/04/12/l-a-to-n-y-in-half-an-hour-10000-plus-m-p-h-tunnel-train-developed/

cybersurf
17-04-2012, 03:10 AM
.
Richard Sauder's latest book:
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9736/51frrf4lylbo2204203200p.jpg


Nazi Engineers, Secret U.S. Military Bases, and Elevators To The Subterranean and Submarine Depths (Part 1)

http://theintelhub.com/2012/04/10/nazi-engineers-secret-u-s-military-bases-and-elevators-to-the-subterranean-and-submarine-depths-part-1/


L.A. to N.Y. in Half an Hour: 10,000 Plus M.P.H. Tunnel Train Used for Underground Bases?

http://theintelhub.com/2012/04/12/l-a-to-n-y-in-half-an-hour-10000-plus-m-p-h-tunnel-train-developed/

Really hyddened in plain sight!

Here you have your trip in the underground black project, black clearance card world:

LA Times
June 11, 1972

A Rand corporation physicist has devised a rapid transit system to get you from Los Angeles to NY in half an hour for a $50 fare. He said existing technology made such a system feasible and so does a cost analysis. The essence of the idea is to dig a tunnel more or less along the present routes of U.S. highways 66 and thirty. The tunnel would contain several large tubes for East West travel of trains that float on magnetic fields, moving at top speeds of 10,000 mph. Passengers would faced forwarded during acceleration, backward during deceleration.

Link above.

cybersurf
17-04-2012, 03:18 AM
On January 24th Dr. Bill Deagle talked about his knowledge of the tunnel boring machines, Phil Schneider, etc on the Jeff Rense radio show (Rense.com). You have to subscribe to listen to it. Deagle describes how the tunnel boring technology works.

It would be a redress of grievances if the black project trains be put to use for the civilian population, who in the final analysis, payed for them.

cybersurf
18-04-2012, 11:13 PM
ITT and Wright Patterson AFB.

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Introduction

This report was constructed from over 9 hours of video interviews, personal interviews and individual commentary.

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Would you refresh my memory about some of the dates involved with the development of electronic mind control in the US?

The mind control experiments were moved to Montauk about 1969. The hardware phase of some of the later experiments began about 1975; equipment to modify the SAGE transmitter was ordered about 1973.

ITT was the main contractor and sub-contracted portions of the contract out. Most of the contracts were awarded to firms on Long Island.

So what did they actually prove that they could do when the experiments were over?

What they essentially proved they could do was that they could control a person that they had the "signature" for. This pattern that was unique to an individual could be put into the computer program for the transmitter. A second order wavelength would be transmitted that has a lower attenuation and affects that persons mind directly. There could be a command to do anything focused at the person. Once a device was constructed that illustrated this principle on a wide scale. A mental message was put out that if anybody heard the message they were to call a certain phone number. Over 600 calls came from all over the East coast all the way down to Florida. It works.

How big is the underground at Montauk?

It's very large. It extends for miles, especially the 5th and 6th levels. Almost all of it was constructed in the late 1920's or early 1930's. We talked to one of the men who was one of the contractors who built it. It was built on government orders right after the depression started. It was built in six levels. They covered the top over with earth. It's known locally as "the hill". Its a huge base. There may still be some use of it. Most of it is shut down. The power has been on for two years now, single phase 220 volt. The elevator used ran on three-phase 440 volts, and that has not been turned on, probably because they plugged all main openings and the elevator shaft with concrete.

Do you know where the current entrances to Montauk are?

No, but I know they're there. The last time two people went out there to look they were abducted. They were knocked out electronically and taken underground to another facility where mental adjustments were made on them. They were returned to the spot, but one of them was not returned exactly at the same time as the other. There was about a 2 second gap and the one that was already there saw it. They knew immediately that something was wrong. They were given a warning. The underground system is still in operation. There are three entrances near AIL. They have three plants in the Farmingdale area. Brookhaven National Laboratories have an entrance to the system. There is also a connection to the Newark ITT Corporation building. From there a spur that goes to the ITT facility at Nutley. There is also a tunnel that goes from Newark to Wright Patterson AFB.

Do they use Maglev trains in this tunnels?

Yes. There is a very extensive tunnel network under the United States. The interesting things is that once you get past the coding system at the entrance elevators and get into the underground, nobody asks any questions. They assume you are supposed to be there, unless you make it obvious that you are not by your actions or appearance.


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mrdruid0
20-04-2012, 12:30 PM
Does anyone have any information on that story about some bikers or just one biker who barely made it out of a D.U.M.B facility???

Great info Everyone!! : D

cybersurf
02-06-2012, 05:21 AM
Underground Bases in the UK found!

UK UFO hangars found!

UK underground death camps found!


Extra-terrestrials and Government Treaties

On July 11th, 1934, the first treaty between the beings, which have become known as the Small Greys (approximately three and a half foot grey beings with large wrap-around eyes from the Orion star system) and the US federal government, under President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, occurred aboard a naval ship at the port city of Balboa, Panama. This was one of the most important events in human history because it thrust us into a role we were not prepared for as regards becoming host to a malevolent, extraterrestrial race.

Although there are benevolent “Zetan”’ Greys, these entities did not have humanity’s best interests at heart.

The US government completely disregarded the Constitution of the United States by doing this and not telling the American people. It was here that the agreement was first made between the Greys (who were actually representing a race of reptilian-like beings from the Draconis star system) and representatives of the US intelligence community. The treaty stated that in return for the Greys providing high technology, the US federal government would allow the Greys to proceed unhindered with human abductions for use in an ongoing ET genetic program. The Americans stated they would only agree to the terms if a list of abductees was provided to the government and the abductees returned unharmed with their memories of the event erased. The Greys provided anti-gravity devices, metals and alloys, environment, free energy, and medical technology in return for this.

These Greys basically said they would provide this hardware in exchange for being allowed to infiltrate human society on all levels. This they did and started to replace important world leaders with clones under their control.

Seven years after this treaty, in 1941, the Greys approached the German government and Hitler. A treaty was then arranged with the Nazis. The Greys offered mind control and other technologies to the Germans, and in return wanted human subjects to conduct their genetic experiments on. The information I have is that Hitler told the Greys they were not to touch the German Aryan people but could do what they wanted with the people in the concentration camps. In the last century, Germany and America have been the main areas of Grey and reptilian invasion, as you can see by the vast amounts of people going missing in America lately. This is why the Nazis were so involved with cloning technology and experimentation on twins [re. Dr. Josef Mengele, a.k.a. the Auschwitz Angel of Death, Dr. "Green", Dr. "Greenbaum", principle architect of Project Monarch mind control programming...Ken].

Approximately twenty people in the US and Germany at the time would have been directly involved in the Grey/human treaties. The information was kept on a strictly need-to-know basis within the governments and secret services. Little has changed regarding Grey, government, and concentration camp issues. We now have the Grey, Draco reptilian, and government sell-outs in Britain and America who are torturing test subjects as we speak, installed into underground concentration camps. Many missing people end up in these facilities and are used as slave labour and test subjects. There is a large underground concentration camp under Salisbury plain in Wiltshire. Most of these evil places are built on sacred land, such as Stonehenge, to distort the vortex centres. I went to this facility in 2006 (taken there by a Delta special forces team by plane) and witnessed some of these martial law experiments.

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/casboltagent3chap.shtml

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cybersurf
02-06-2012, 05:24 AM
You don't need to be a blue blood to know now what does the NWO has in store for the non-blue-bloods.

The final degree of Illumination are non hypnotic memory retrieval techniques.



Dean was subcontracted by the NSA in the late 1980's and worked for them until 1992. He was a senior electrical engineer at the Los Alamos facility. He told me there are now over 4000 underground bases worldwide and many of them have ETs in the high security lower levels. X5 also said the underground concentration camps in America and Britain are known as D4 facilities (deep underground military prisons). The major bases worldwide are mainly under the control of the NSA and are classified D1- Deep underground military bases, D2- Deep underwater military bases, D3- Deep under mountain military bases, and D4- Deep underground military prisons (although Lincoln informs me these classifications have now been changed).

The Grey and Draco reptilian ETs working together with the upper levels of different countries’ governments is known by intelligence insiders as MIEC (Military Industrial Extra-terrestrial Complex). Another NSA contact, X3, told me that a global Masonic apparatus above the 33rd degree is controlling upper levels of many governments of the world. The 33rd degree is officially the highest Masonic degree, but in reality, there are many degrees above this. This Masonic degree is the first real level of trust, and most Freemasons never get above the lower Blue degrees. You are either born into a certain bloodline, or you do something that sets you apart from Joe public and are brought into the Elite inner circle. On level 33, a mason often gets access to the highly classified areas of the MIEC. This Masonic degree is known as the first level of “Illumination.” George Bush Sr. is reported to be above the 42nd degree and is deeply entrenched in the MIEC. Insiders also refer to the MIEC as “The Octopus.” [re. Danny Casalaro, 'suicided' August, 1991..Ken]

cybersurf
13-06-2012, 11:05 PM
UK UFO Fleet found!

Project Mannequin is a mind control and genetic manipulation programme run by the National Security Agency (NSA). Although the NSA is officially the United States government, they run many covert “black” projects in many countries around the world. The NSA is fast becoming the world’s most powerful secret service and is currently taking over much of the global intelligence apparatus. Project Mannequin was started in 1972 and is still being run from a 6-level underground facility beneath the small town of Peasemore in Berkshire, a few miles from where I grew up. This underground base is so secret that the local residents of Peasemore are not even aware it exists.

This NSA facility, known in intelligence circles as the AL/499 base, is located 200 feet below the village. There are entrances to the facility at Greenham common (known as ‘Bravo’ entrance, which is now sealed off), Watchfield Military Science College (‘Delta’ entrance), and Harwell laboratories in Oxfordshire. There are entrances to the base in Lambourne and Welford in Berkshire. The underground base at Lambourne is the “Area 51” of the U.K. with many exotic, anti-gravity aircraft stored there. The project involves the kidnapping of targeted civilians and also certain intelligence and military people. Some of the intelligence and military personnel have volunteered for the project, but many have not. Almost all of the civilian “guinea pigs” have not volunteered and have been used against their wills. I was “sold” into the project. Many of the civilians have also been used in the project from young children. The reason is to create programmed “sleeper” agents using sophisticated electronic hardware-based hypnosis. These individuals are programmed by the NSA to carry out future tasks, set by the NSA, and become hit men as adults. Sleepers are people who carry out a huge variety of pre-programmed tasks with sometimes little awareness of the medical procedures in Project Mannequin because of advanced memory erasure techniques.

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/casboltagent1chap.shtml

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cybersurf
28-11-2012, 06:12 AM
This underground bases have become important now that the Jimmy Savile paedophila/Necrophilia in the BBC has oppened the consciousness of the people.

Most of child murders and abuse happen at this USA/Uk underground bases.

This 2012 winter solstice will be very important and the elites and USA/UK mlitary/intel/political sphere will try to make many sacrifices there.

You can make your part making a postulate that no children will be killed or abused in underground bases or any place this winter solstice 2012.

heartbeatsalute
28-11-2012, 06:31 AM
MISSING CHILDREN ARE IN UNDERGROUND BASES - YouTube

cybersurf
17-01-2013, 05:27 AM
The 'Phil Schneider' Song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE4w26AOK8E

heartbeatsalute
17-01-2013, 06:15 PM
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Guatemala Sinkhole

Imagine walking down the street, minding your own business, when suddenly the earth begins to shake and fold in. Imagine that the very ground you stand on is disintegrating beneath your feet, being devoured by a giant hole. No - this isn’t some lewd joke about Paris Hilton or something from Return of the Jedi. No, today we’re going to explore the phenomenon of sinkholes and some of the most incredible and destructive examples.

heartbeatsalute
17-01-2013, 06:20 PM
http://webecoist.momtastic.com/2008/08/26/incredible-strange-amazing-sinkholes/



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One day you’re feeling satisfied with the fruits of all your yard work. The next day, your lawn is a gaping pit of mud. That’s if you are lucky – it could have been your house, neighborhood or, say, local interstate. Sinkholes tend to appear suddenly, and while particular regions are famously prone to sinkholes they happen all over the world. It begins with an innocuous leak in a rusty pipe. The earth beneath your feet quietly erodes until one day…whoosh. Whole buildings have been sucked into sinkholes. Entire roads have been knocked out. Here are some of the biggest and baddest sinkholes in the world.


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