Reptillians, other creatures and gold prospecting

[father ted]

I am also part of a gold prospecting forum and I'm into that hobby as well. I have heard stories of strange creatures and ufo's out in the bush, as well as ancient giant structures and pheonician artifacts out in the bush.

Here is a thread from the gold prospecting forum called finders forum that you might find interesting:

http://www.tosd.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2317&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

This forum has nothing to do with issues of NWO, Illuminati or shapeshifting reptiles, so it's interesting, isn't it?

Also on that forum, someone mentioned hearing someone else who stumbled upon an ancient ruins/town/dwelling, suitable for giants. this was somewhere in the NT, Somewhere in the centre of Australia I think. He described ground that was paved with bricks, as well as other giant structures. They also gave this link:
http://www.awarenessquest.com/home.htm

and this one:
http://phoenicia.org/australia.html

It is explained that as soon as some reports one of these types of finds, the place/pyramid gets bulldozed or the artifact(s) destroyed by the powers that be. The location of these finds is kept a secret as to protect it, by those that know what will hapen to it. Same with artifacts. In the old version of one of the websites, the author was very paranoid, warning others about the persecution that can happen if the governmet finds out, as well as the destruction of these objects.

[oneofmany]

Have you heard of Rex Gilroy? He's a guy that has been chasing UFO's, aincient Egyptian civilisations which he calls the URU and the Yowie, among other things for more than fifty years. He's written many books on these subjects and has travelled Australia's wilderness to find these unknown areas. http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/ is the website (not quite finished) but this guy facinates me because a lot of what he talks about is not to far from my own backyard. He even has a giant skeleton collection and a museum somewhere which I'd love to check out. As far as Australia is concerned, this guy would have to be the closest thing we got to an expert. At the moment he's got a book out which deals with Australian underground bases and our own Bermuda triangle, but in the past he has done extensive research on artifacts that he's discovered which may proove that the Egyptians made it to Australia in their many journeys and also found a pyramid in Gympie Qld.

Id like to meet Roy, Don't know about you

[father ted]

Looks like an interesting site. He's got his email there, I take it he hasn't returned your emails?

The pyramid at Gympie is a more well known one, there were others, mainly in NSW then Qld but as soon as the government found out, they bulldozed them. It's obvious that the government is trying to hide Australia's past.

[oneofmany]

Looks like an interesting site. He's got his email there, I take it he hasn't returned your emails?

The pyramid at Gympie is a more well known one, there were others, mainly in NSW then Qld but as soon as the government found out, they bulldozed them. It's obvious that the government is trying to hide Australia's past.Actually I haven't sent him one :o I was planning on just rocking up to his doorstep :D He has a bit of a museum in Katoomba and before my car got written off I was going to take my son. Why Im a bit embarrased is because I never even thought to send him an email to tell him I was coming up or even who I was, Come to think of it, why would of he even of opened the door :eek:

I mentioned the gympie pyramid because I think he might of had something to do with discovering it

This is cool, I didn't think too many people knew Australias "backstory", and now I have some cool links and someone to talk about it with:cool::cool::cool:

[father ted]

I just read something interesting from that website:

Aboriginal Tradition - Horny-Skinned Goanna Bunyip

According to Aboriginal tradition, a 'horny-skinned goanna bunyip" is said to have existed in New South Wales and elsewhere across Australia under a variety of different names in the long-ago Dreamtime. It was described as being of enormous size and smelling "terrible". Their rock engravings and cave paintings across the continent clearly depict these and other reptilian monsters, but more on that matter later.

The Aboriginal tribes of Western Australia believed in the existence of giant-sized goannas which they called "Bungarra". They informed early settlers that these monsters reached lengths of up to 20 and 30 feet, and that they should always be on the lookout for them.

Last century, [1800's] the tribes of the North West Cape region lived in constant fear of these reptiles, claiming that a good number of the creatures inhabited the bush thereabouts. Perhaps they still do.

Note how the aboriginies reffered to them as "Horny-Skinned Goanna Bunyip", connecting the word bunyip to the reptillian entitie. Could this be the real meaning of bunyip?

Also they described it as smelling "terrible" - let me guess, that terrible smell wouldn't happen to be sulphur?

[oneofmany]

I just read something interesting from that website:



Note how the aboriginies reffered to them as "Horny-Skinned Goanna Bunyip", connecting the word bunyip to the reptillian entitie. Could this be the real meaning of bunyip?

Also they described it as smelling "terrible" - let me guess, that terrible smell wouldn't happen to be sulphur?I read that and thought the same thing.
Rex has seen more of Australia than I have, and he's talked with every tribe on the east coast I'd suspect, so research is not bunk on this topic, I contacted a friend of mine in the Kimberleys to see if he'd heard of Rex Gilroy and he said he'd been around his camp to talk to the elders twice before, so this guy gets around.

I always wondered about the bunyip story as a kid, this confirms it

[father ted]

Here's another quote from the site:

The Nullarbor Plain, South Australia, has a long tradition of giant monitor lizards.

According to local Aboriginal legend, the sink -hole caves on the Nullarbor are inhabited by giant goanna bunyips. Far back in the Dreamtime, one of these reptilian giants created the dust storms by lashing his great tail around the countryside. Whenever there are dust storms hereabouts, the

Once again, connecting the bunyip to a reptillian. Also, there seem to be two different types of descriptions of giant reptiles in aboriginal folklore (maybe more). One is a creature, like a giant goanna, on all fours, suggesting that it's not an intelligent species like a human is, and the other is the bunyip/reptile which in their stories, seems to be somewhat intelligent.

[adramelech]

It is explained that as soon as some reports one of these types of finds, the place/pyramid gets bulldozed or the artifact(s) destroyed by the powers that be. The location of these finds is kept a secret as to protect it, by those that know what will hapen to it. Same with artifacts. In the old version of one of the websites, the author was very paranoid, warning others about the persecution that can happen if the governmet finds out, as well as the destruction of these objects.

Archeology is quite possibly the most fiercely covered up field of research on the planet, perhaps second only to genetics. Cover-ups, black lists and white washes are so common with "forbidden" archeological finds that the presence of it is practically at the forefront of the research. It's known to everyone involved.

[graflok]

I am also part of a gold prospecting forum and I'm into that hobby as well.

Interesting. I'm a detectorist and I frequent some of the treasure finding forums myself. I'm not into prospecting myself but mostly old coins and relics, etc. I guess my interest in "what lies beneath" has something to do with my interest in all this. :)

graflok

[oneofmany]

Here's another quote from the site:



Once again, connecting the bunyip to a reptillian. Also, there seem to be two different types of descriptions of giant reptiles in aboriginal folklore (maybe more). One is a creature, like a giant goanna, on all fours, suggesting that it's not an intelligent species like a human is, and the other is the bunyip/reptile which in their stories, seems to be somewhat intelligent.I sent David this site in an email last year as i thought these references would interest him enough to investigate the matter further, but I never heard anything about it.
I believe the Aboriginals have an awful lot to tell the human race about our past and what's relevant to our future.
Australia is awash with the unexplained, and is crying out for some light to be shone upon it

[father ted]

Interesting. I'm a detectorist and I frequent some of the treasure finding forums myself. I'm not into prospecting myself but mostly old coins and relics, etc. I guess my interest in "what lies beneath" has something to do with my interest in all this. :)

graflok

At the moment I'm doing a lot of beach detecting, I can't afford to go back to the goldfields yet, though I made a profit last time I went. I always want to see what else is out there to do, not just what society wants you to do.

[father ted]

I believe the Aboriginals have an awful lot to tell the human race about our past and what's relevant to our future.
Australia is awash with the unexplained, and is crying out for some light to be shone upon it
13-03-2007 12:06 AM

I agree, there would be aboriginals out there that would tell some great stories. It's a pity that the majority of Australian Aboriginals have had problems placed upon them. It seems that they've been brainwashed (school, alcohol, etc.) just the same as, and as much as the rest of us have.

The authorities don't want Aboriginals mingling with whites, I had a little bit of this experience when I visited a country town last year. The REAL aboriginal shamans have been shut away and ignored, as well as the aboriginal history.

I don't know what it's like in your neck of the woods, but in the country towns and the few cities that I've visited, the situations concerning native australians are bad, really bad. We need to have more indigenous australians step up and cut the crap that they've been brainwashed with, and be heard. They need to re-educate their communities, and likewise, the rest of australia need to be sympathetic and understand what is really happening, and take them seriously.

[oneofmany]

I agree, there would be aboriginals out there that would tell some great stories. It's a pity that the majority of Australian Aboriginals have had problems placed upon them. It seems that they've been brainwashed (school, alcohol, etc.) just the same as, and as much as the rest of us have.

The authorities don't want Aboriginals mingling with whites, I had a little bit of this experience when I visited a country town last year. The REAL aboriginal shamans have been shut away and ignored, as well as the aboriginal history.

I don't know what it's like in your neck of the woods, but in the country towns and the few cities that I've visited, the situations concerning native australians are bad, really bad. We need to have more indigenous australians step up and cut the crap that they've been brainwashed with, and be heard. They need to re-educate their communities, and likewise, the rest of australia need to be sympathetic and understand what is really happening, and take them seriously.

I agree Ted. There are some communities out in the deep scrub, that still live the life their forefathers did, and it is these people that have to be protected from the influences of the "white mans world". Their knowledge is too valuable to lose, and there are bugger all people interested in what they have to say, which to me is a crying shame and a waste to humanity.
The best thing we can do for "town Aboriginals" IMO Is to take them back to the bush they belong to and give them total freedom from our laws and traditions. They have their own set of rules that they live by and all "white man" is doing, is interfering.

Did you know that Aboriginal people call Australia Day, Invasion Day. To me, that says it all

[father ted]

Unfortunately, the illuminati gave "white" people a bad name. I hope there are people out there that understand that.

There are aspects of aboriginal culture that relate to traditional european culture, similarities that people should know that are there. I can relate to the way they talk, and as far as I'm concerned, and their accent and the way they pronounce their words (just an example).

The big difference is that they are a hunter gatherer society, and that has been taken away from them, but think about it; isn't that in the nature of everyone? Why do we, those with a soul, like camping so much? (and things like that) Sitting around the campfire, telling stories, living outdoors, so called "getting away from it all", relaxing etc. Isn't this in the nature of everyone, as well as the human psyche? Where do we get this from, gee... I wonder:rolleyes:

I think that even though the cultures on the surface different, and there are immediate differences, the non-psychopaths of this world have the same intentions, desires, love of nature; consciously or subconsciously (whether they know it or not).

I think the real differences are between psychopaths and non-psychopaths, not races and cultures, but they don't want you to focus on that, do they?

So part of my point to all this is that our human Psyche does respond to their stories, traditions, teachings etc, so there is reason for it. We don't need to be viewed as "apart" from them (and visa versa) as others would have you believe.

[oneofmany]

Unfortunately, the illuminati gave "white" people a bad name. I hope there are people out there that understand that.

which is somewhat deserved, I have to say.

"These monster-goannas once roamed the whole continent far back in the Dreamtime. Our people used to hunt these monsters in big parties, but hunters had to be careful; for if you were caught, these big fellas would pick you up in their mouths and eat you," said one old Taree Aborigine to a researcher back in the early 1950s.
Like their smaller 30-foot counterparts, they were said to overturn trees of reasonable size. Even today, when a large tree is heard to fall in the forest depths by day or night, Aborigines will say it is the work of a "Mungoon Galli".
Over the years some people have claimed to have found massive footprints of these creatures, but if so, no photographs or casts have been forthcoming. But there are genuine traditions of the monsters among the Aborigines, and until the terrain in which they are said to live can be explored properly, let us at least keep an open mind on the matter.
Aborigines say that strange noises heard near waterholes and certain forest areas near Taree and back of Kempsey are the sounds made by giant monitors, and they will not go anywhere near these places for fear of being caught and eaten by one of these reptiles.
There is a story from the Cessnock district about an incident said to have taken place in late December 1978. In a far paddock on his property, a farmer spotted a gigantic goanna-looking reptile ripping up a cow with its massive jaws and teeth.
The farmer (who did not wish his name to be known) was in a Jeep at the time. He raced off for the house and phoned up mates who, within the hour, descended on the property with their cattle dogs in pick-ups and Land-Rovers, armed with rifles. The location borders swamplands on the edge of thick-forested valleys and mountain country, and it was from there that the monster had obviously emerged.
By the time the search party arrived, all they could find was the half eaten cow, much blood, and many large indistinct tracks in the grassy ground. However, other squashed-about tracks and the marks of a massive tail could be seen on the swamp edge leading into the water. The dogs, as well as the men, refused to go any further.
Using nearby fence-posts to line up the creature at the time of his sighting, the farmer estimated that it was a good 35 feet (10.6metres) in length, and nine feet or so tall on all fours, counting the great body of the creature. However, few people believed him. Some argued that he must have butchered the cow himself and manufactured the tracks. If this was so, he certainly did a good job. But there are some strange things happening out in those mountains, and I for one am not laughing.


Ive seen goannas in the bush before and have even hunted them (for research purposes, My friend is tresurer of the Herpatological society of NSW) but not once have I seen them attack anything BIGGER then themselves. The size of these lizard bunyips must be huge to say the least.
Add Intelligence to the mix (they must be, how does it not get found otherwise) and these animals must really be a formidable adversary indeed.

My theory on why nobody has seen these things is because I think that whoever gets to see these beasts, doesn't get to live too much longer, and certainly doesn't live to tell the tale, because If their anything like goannas, they could easily outrun any man under any terrain. Unlike goannas however, I could see these bunyip creatures not being scared of humans at all, and actually hunting us instead. What do they eat? Where do they live? how do they breed? do they breed? can they communicate? are they Intellegent? These are all things we need to find out If we are ever going to discover anything of significance about these creatures but where do we start.

Rex has been at it for fifty years now and no real answers of real relevance, but there must be something to this. I know quite a few Aboriginal people and most I have the pleasure to call friends, and the one thing that makes me believe in these things, is the fact that I have asked my friends about yowies and bunyips etc, and every one of them bar none swears to me that these things are real. If not known one of these people to ever lie to me and thats the truth.

quotes are from Rex Gilroys website here http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/index.htm

[father ted]

Have your friends ever talked about reptillians as well? In their legends or otherwise? I know there's an aboriginal myth, of the snake people creating ayers rock, fighting each other. And they aint the type of reptiles that rex talks about either, you know what I mean? In the myth, the book that explains it, shows ancient drawings of these "snake peoplle" creatures, and both the myth and the paintings suggest these were intelligent creatures.

There other australian myths that suggest inteligent type reptillians, as well as giants, as well as shapeshifting.

What I'm saying is that there are these two types of reptiles in question in my mind, the primitive, giant reptiles that mainly walk on all fours, and the reptillians, bi-pedal, which show signs of manipulation and inteligence. I wish people like rex and others would also focus on the latter. They are definatelly there in australian myths and legends.

[oneofmany]

Have your friends ever talked about reptillians as well? In their legends or otherwise? I know there's an aboriginal myth, of the snake people creating ayers rock, fighting each other. And they aint the type of reptiles that rex talks about either, you know what I mean? In the myth, the book that explains it, shows ancient drawings of these "snake peoplle" creatures, and both the myth and the paintings suggest these were intelligent creatures.

There other australian myths that suggest inteligent type reptillians, as well as giants, as well as shapeshifting.

What I'm saying is that there are these two types of reptiles in question in my mind, the primitive, giant reptiles that mainly walk on all fours, and the reptillians, bi-pedal, which show signs of manipulation and inteligence. I wish people like rex and others would also focus on the latter. They are definatelly there in australian myths and legends.

I once heard an elders story around the campfire about a hairy man/creature that lived in a cave on the side of the Kathrine gorge (don't ask me which cave, there's hundreds) that used to come out at night to drink blood. The man/creature used to drink the blood of the local wildlife, but every so often, It would hunt out manflesh. The tribes of the area used to see it as an omen that they gotten to familiar with the land and moved on. They said it was here before them in the long ago dreamtime and If they were killed by the man/creature, that their next life would be blessed so to speak.

They didn't tell me the name of this creature and I was hesitant to ask because I had the feeling that they were telling me too much already, but I got the distinct feeling that they believed this creature was still alive.

It got me thinking when i heard it, about the story of gilgamesh and all the strange creatures he fought and let live while he ruled his people. I wondered If this tale was real maybe gilgamesh and other myths also had any validity in them.

I couldn't sleep properly for a week after that campfire. Maybe it was something to do with us camping along the gorge :D

The bunyip stories are the closest I've heard to reptiles being mentioned in any tale, and every tribe has a different bunyip story.

[friendsinthesky]

I'm familiar with meditation, having said that.....

I've seen dark matter pass through the night sky in the "outback".

What I like about the "outback" is being somewhere remote, turn off all lights and stand in pure darkness, abolish any fear that enters the mind, absolutely amazing. (this needs to be done before the moon rises).

ABoriginal's manipulated / controlled, just spend 2 days in alice-springs, drive around the streets come 2pm. A devastating sight!

[father ted]

ABoriginal's manipulated / controlled, just spend 2 days in alice-springs, drive around the streets come 2pm. A devastating sight!

Oneofmany is lucky to know/have met his aboriginal friends and elders that he's talked about. I find that there are a lot more aboriginal women that are smart and nuderstanding in their communities, it's a shame that their recent culture seems to be very male dominated. In fact, it mirrors ours, just in a different way. As I've said in a previous post on this thread, we have more in common than people are willing to admit.

[truthcommission]

Really interesting post.

It is said that the indigenous people who have stayed close to the land have retained the ability to walk between worlds. In their classic walkabouts (which can last for months on end) they are so attuned that they can sense where food is and communicate telepathically.

Another thing that fascinates me is their stories and songs. They laden with mystical creatures and they are used to weave magical symbolism which can act against protection in the outback.

Not only that but the songs can be used to measure distance. As you know they don't have any 'technology' as we know it so the songs if sung exactly without missing a beat or a pause can be used to measure the distance between places.

Who knows what else these fascinating people can teach us?

[neondestiny]

I love the aboriginal dreamtime stories and yes they do have snakemen in their culture. I also recall seeing somewhere a rock painting that could be a spaceman with a helmet.
From memory the Australian aboriginals are one of or are the oldest surviving cultures on earth and is steeped in mystery and magic.
In regards to women doing more, the aboriginal women had their part in their culture and so did the men. Secret mens business/secret women's business.
Have you ever noticed when a program comes on that may have a deceased aboriginal in it there is usually in the introduction a warning to aboriginal people that the program may contain voices of the deceased person? I believe that this is because aboriginal people are still very close to the spirit world.
The traditional aboriginals were shamans in a sense as they are able to travel between the worlds.
I think it was no accident that they have been treated the way they have been treated, (stolen generation) and breeding out of the culture as this would weaken their culture and their connection to the land and the afterlife.
My grandfather was aboriginal, I remember reading some of my grandmothers letters about an aboriginal hunter, someone who's job it was to go out and shoot/hunt the aboriginal people around his area, very sad.
They sure can teach us a thing or two in regards to how their culture worked and how society is today.

[chocolateharpist]

I thought it was discovered that the gympie pyramid was built by a Swiss botanist in the 19th C

[father ted]

I thought it was discovered that the gympie pyramid was built by a Swiss botanist in the 19th C

Maybe, but why is it a coverup?

[chocolateharpist]

I don't think it is a cover up.
There seems to be some kind of 'truth' organisation stopping people going to look at it.